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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com | New York City Council Honors Ethel Rosenberg, Executed for High Treason for Delivering the US' Atomic Bomb Plans to the Soviet Union, for Her "Great Bravery"They're not saying her "great bravery" consisted of delivering the bomb to the Soviet Union. Wink. Actually, they are saying that, but they want plausible deniability; so they're claiming they're honoring her "great bravery" in leading a labor strike, while denying the atomic spy charges. (Which are undeniable -- see the Venona intercepts. We had broken the Soviet's codes and were reading their messages to spies, a secret only revealed in 1995.)Three council members joined Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer in issuing two proclamations lauding Rosenberg, a Lower East Side resident, for "demonstrating great bravery" in leading a 1935 strike against the National New York Packing and Supply Co., where she worked as a clerk. The proclamations also said she was "wrongfully" executed for helping her husband, Julius, pass atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.Look, there's no question that "OSA" (Russian for "bee;" Ethel's code-name) was a member of Karl Fuch's (code-name: KALIBR) spy ring charged with working on "ENORMOZ" (the code-name for the US atomic bomb program). She urged Ruth Greenglass to recruit her husband David Greenglass (who worked for the Manhattan Project) into the spy ring; she did, Greenglass joined, and Greenglass delivered over key information to the Soviet Union. We read their secret communications at the time; we have since disclosed this fact; and former Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev said so in his pothumously-published memoirs. From Wikipedia: In his posthumously published memoirs, Nikita Khrushchev, leader of the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964, said that he "cannot specifically say what kind of help the Rosenbergs provided us" but that he learned from Joseph Stalin and Vyacheslav M. Molotov that they "had provided very significant help in accelerating the production of our atomic bomb".So there's no question she did what she was alleged to have done; nor, in fact, was there much doubt at the time -- most Soviet-leaning/communist-sympathizing progressives made the Rosenbergs their heroes not because they thought they were innocent, but rather because they knew they were guilty. Or, as they would put it: they knew the Rosenbergs had "demonstrated great bravery" on behalf of the Worker's Paradise of Mother Russia. Some of the Rosenbergs' stalwart defenders are quite open about this. Today, so many decades later, the descendants of the people who proclaimed the Rosenbergs' innocence have now begun yet another campaign to rehabilitate them. They now argue that although it appears Julius Rosenberg was a Soviet spy after all, he gave little of value to the Soviets, was motivated by the desire to stave off atomic war, and in any case had nothing to do with handing over atomic information of any kind to the Soviet Union. A new variation of this argument was penned recently by the activist historian and lawyer Staughton Lynd, writing in the Marxist journal Monthly Review, founded in 1949 by the late Leo Huberman and the late Paul M. Sweezy. I have written at length about Lynd’s article, but his argument can be easily summarized. Lynd now accepts as fact that Julius Rosenberg led a Soviet spy network, but he objects to what he calls the triumphalism of those like me who have asserted this for years. More important for Lynd is that the couple refused to "snitch," therefore making themselves heroes. He maintains that their trial was a "sham," and he argues that even if they were guilty, they must be viewed as unadulterated heroes. Why? Because, he actually writes, the couple had "obligations as Communists, and as citizens of the world." So, to Lynd, the Rosenbergs' obligation to spy for Joseph Stalin stands above any loyalty to their own country, not to speak of their willingness to make their own children orphans. Secondly, Lynd believes that if the Rosenbergs helped the Soviets get the bomb, that "might have been justified," since he believes Soviet strength stopped aggression by the American imperialists. For years, the American Left argued that the Rosenbergs were framed and innocent. Now Lynd says they were guilty but that their actions were justified because they helped "preserve the peace of the world." In effect, he is saying that instead of still attempting to prove the Rosenbergs were framed, we should celebrate them for being traitors to their own country. His argument reveals only the desperation some on the left have to descend to in order to maintain their view that the only guilty party was the United States.They were Atomic Spies for World Peace, or something. Sixty years later, and it's no different; the crusty old communists of New York City's government are still heaping laurels on the Sainted Heroes of the Soviet Union, Julius (LIBERAL) and Ethel (OSA) Rosenberg, who delivered the Soviets and ENORMOZ boost in their atomic research. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 30, 2015 01:33 PM (VPLuQ) Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:34 PM (C9pBZ) 3
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:34 PM (kff5f) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:35 PM (kff5f) 5
Commies loving commies. Note that Venezualan preezy Maduro was busy heaping praise on TFG yesterday.
Like I said... Posted by: GnuBreed at September 30, 2015 01:35 PM (gyKtp) 6
W I D E L O A D
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:35 PM (kff5f) 7
Commies gonna Commie
Posted by: Toonces the Cat at September 30, 2015 01:35 PM (e7T6D) 8
Of course they are heroes to the Libs.....It's what they think is the right thing to do to take the US down... Witness Our current occupant of the White House.... Lump His dear dead Granny in the same type of thinking . He grew up with this...
Posted by: donna at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (hUdMz) 9
These people are bonkers.
Posted by: Hurricane Le-a at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (vmMMi) 10
heh....
Posted by: Toonces the Cat at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (e7T6D) Posted by: pep at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (GMG6W) 12
I approve.
Posted by: The Red Pope at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (c7vUv) Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (C9pBZ) 14
The Communists have fucking won.
Posted by: rickl at September 30, 2015 01:36 PM (zoehZ) 15
Was that sort of like "Plan Nine from Outer Space"?
I like that movie... It is so bad it's good... Posted by: donna at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (hUdMz) 16
So, to Lynd, the Rosenbergs' obligation to spy for Joseph Stalin stands above any loyalty to their own country, not to speak of their willingness to make their own children orphans.
This is different from modern Progressive Statists... how? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (kff5f) 17
History is being rewritten right in front of our eyes. The Left is in full control of the USA, we are merely remnants of a former once great nation. Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (L2Ssy) 18
I love the argument that, OK, they were spies but they didn't really provide much of value.
As far as they knew, they were enabling Josef Stalin to get the bomb. That makes them traitors. Those who say they did a good thing, because otherwise the U.S. would have had no counterweight, confirm that the Rosenbergs were trying to strengthen our enemies because they were our enemies. Fun fact: Commie propaganda thought it was perfect to accuse us of railroading them for being Jews, since Stalin at that time was gearing up for a big purge of Jews and the Russians were big on the "what about your Negroes in the South" retort to any human rights accusations. Posted by: JPS at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (kmw5k) 19
So they will be bailing my ass out.....when?
Posted by: Kim Davis at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (326rv) 20
Meet new New York, same as old New York.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (gW5Vg) 21
Lump His dear dead Granny in the same type of thinking . He grew up with this...
It's oddly fitting that he smothered her with a pillow. Posted by: Grump928(C) denounces himself so you don't have to at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (rwI+c) 22
that's real retarded sir
Posted by: Tropical Storm Jeantel at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (e7T6D) 23
Too lazy to read the post in its entirety, but was it pointed out that Ethel was offered a plea deal that would have let her go home to her kids and she willingly went to the chair?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (b2/Ti) 24
Wow, never would have expected this happening under a Commie Mayor. Who honeymooned in Cuba, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (NOIQH) 25
Jo McCathy was loud, obnoxious, condescending and a drunk. He was also fucking 100% spot on. And now.... 60 years later.... the Commies almost completed their long march through the institutions. Posted by: The Blond Racoon at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (8XRCm) 26
Because they didn't believe we should be the only ones with the bomb. That is the most charitable argument I've ever read.
They believe in communism to their cores: everyone should be equally as miserable. There should be no superpowers. I have no patience for this simple thinking anymore. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (XiVKO) 27
21 Lump His dear dead Granny in the same type of thinking . He grew up with this...
It's oddly fitting that he smothered her with a pillow. Nah, tooo wimpy.... made someone else do it... Posted by: donna at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (hUdMz) 28
Get the NY Moron Horde contingent out and let it burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2015 01:39 PM (D5XRv) 29
Don't question our patriotism!!!!
Posted by: Every Leftist at September 30, 2015 01:39 PM (JmGFJ) 30
off off marsupial sock.... Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:39 PM (8XRCm) Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 30, 2015 01:39 PM (FsuaD) 32
NY City council wouldn't know Bravery if it tea-bagged each member on the steps of City Hall.
Posted by: Chi at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (Ko5ul) 33
Get the NY Moron Horde contingent out and
Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2015 01:39 PM (D5XRv) FIFY. The AoSHQ Style Guide also allows for "...and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (kff5f) 34
Her bust is in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (lU0bX) 35
NYC went completely to shit when the citizens decided to elect commie to Mayor and the City Council. Of course these commies like the Rosenbergs, after all they gave the atomic bomb to the Russian commies.
I hope everybody in NYC that voted for these jerks gets Montezuma's Revenge from eating bad food in a crappy restaurant on Broadway and it lasts for the entire time these commies are in office. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (t2KH5) 36
Marxists gotta Marxist.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (FsuaD) Posted by: AD at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (mY597) 38
Thankfully treason is a thing of the past
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (fWAjv) Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (/tuJf) 40
I'm shocked there are commie sympathizers in NYC.
In the largest city in the US, renowned for commerce. And people wonder why New Yorkers are fucked up. Posted by: Former New Yorker at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (326rv) 41
The Left is well on their way with their hero-making of Bradley Manning.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (NOIQH) 42
Thankfully treason is a thing of the past
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:40 PM (fWAjv) It is hard to judge others' treason when the President of the United States is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (kff5f) 43
This is all borne of the same revisionism that claims the anti-soviet campaigns were due to "hysteria" rather than actual, documented cases. The same reason I'm seeing facebook posts that are rehabilitating Howard Zinn's People's history.
I'm completely comfortable in saying this is all part of a coordinated movement. How else could Bernie Sanders get such support? The radical left has infiltrated EVERYTHING and are making their move. Hell, we've even got Conservative and Libertarian pundits arguing that it's just not feasible to cut spending or government. The only thing that will stop this is The Burning. Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (Wckf4) 44
Next thing you know they'll be rounding up all the people who wear eyeglasses.
Posted by: navybrat at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (ETxiG) 45
New York is honoring Ethel Rosenberg, Los Angeles just honored Motorhead.
Just sayin', I think LA's got a few more points in their cool-book for that one. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (XiVKO) 46
>>23 Too lazy to read the post in its entirety, but was it pointed out that Ethel was offered a plea deal that would have let her go home to her kids and she willingly went to the chair?
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (b2/Ti) Really?? Wow. Posted by: Hurricane Le-a at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (vmMMi) 47
So basically the NY City Council has nothing better to do?
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (mcm0N) 48
There's this sort of alternate history Democrats USED to push that they were on the right side of the Cold War and united, but the truth was, many were secretly rooting for the Soviet Union and were devastated it lost. It's just now they feel more comfortable coming out of the closet.
Posted by: Coolio at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (BiSBB) 49
The runner up was Che.
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (IfSin) 50
The masks are coming off in a big way nowadays. Used to be communists in public office were skittish about coming out but I guess the mainstreaming of Marxism in liberal circles and the relative success of avowed socialist Bernie Sander's primary candidacy is giving them heart.
I suggest to anyone who hasn't read Whittaker Chambers' book, 'Witness', read it now. Posted by: troyriser at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (fnCax) 51
The only thing that will stop this is The Burning.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (Wckf4) Get your asbestos underoos on. I think The Burning is going to come more quickly than most think. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (kff5f) 52
How soon before a naval ship is named after her?
We already have the USNS Cesar Chavez. Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (NOIQH) 53
Soccer players, every one of them.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (xq1UY) 54
Could we put a fence around NYC? There ain't a thing American about the place.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 30, 2015 01:44 PM (oDCMR) 55
Gotta rationalize treasonous behavior to provide some basis of comparison and eventual exculpation for the actions of Scankles and Bill, and probably any number of political 'leaders' in their dealings with Iran.
These guys are just prepping the battlefield. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 30, 2015 01:44 PM (i0ykY) 56
The runner up was Che.
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (IfSin) ---- You know whats really ironic....... You see ALOT of Che tee shirts at Folsolm and other gay events. The wearers are TOTALLY ignorant of the fact the Che would have personally shot them himself. Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (8XRCm) 57
And remember that Khrushchev would have been much better served in two ways if he'd denied the Rosenbergs had helped. He could claim the soviets didn't need scientific advancements from the capitalists in the west - they came up with the bomb all on their own. And Khrushchev could also paint the US as evil murderers who killed the innocent Rosenbergs.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (2oWD2) 58
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21 Lump His dear dead Granny in the same type of thinking . He grew up with this... It's oddly fitting that he smothered her with a pillow. Nah, tooo wimpy.... made someone else do it... Posted by: donna at September 30, 2015 01:38 PM (hUdMz) He didn't 'make' me do it. Posted by: Michelle at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (lPTI6) 59
Every time I get pissed off (again) at the denizens of NYC, I remember Scare Force One's fly over, and the resulting running, screaming, and panic. Heh.
Still would love to know who was on board. Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (FsuaD) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (LA7Cm) Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (IfSin) 62
Gulp.
Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:34 PM (C9pBZ) You think they are getting ready to expand the employment horizon ? Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (R8hU8) 63
The mayor of NYC is a complete communist, of course he loves the Rosenbergs.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (39g3+) 64
This is all borne of the same revisionism that claims the anti-soviet campaigns were due to "hysteria" rather than actual, documented cases."
Yeah. I chuckled at the latest "there was never any cooperation between Soviets and Nazis evar"... Just ask them about Molotov Ribbentrop. They'll stammer and stutter, if they reply at all. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (C9pBZ) 65
Burn the Witch, #43, re "hysteria":
You reminded me of Bill Buckley's comment on President Carter's lament about our "inordinate fear of communism": "like telling a man with pneumonia that he suffers from an inordinate fear of pneumonia." Posted by: JPS at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (kmw5k) 66
"Atomic Spies for World Peace" - Acronym ASWP or AKA team Asswipe?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (/B6Iw) Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (mcm0N) 68
When is Barky due to apologize, the cocksucker apologizes for everything.
Posted by: Killerdog at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (a7fo3) 69
Oh.... and before we forget and move to alcohol and bewbs and bacon.... The REAL reason the left HATED Nixon???? Alger Hiss Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (8XRCm) 70
"Citizen of the world."
What a crock of bullshit. Why don't those mewling quims ever promote freedom for the rest of the world instead of oppression? They're trying to make it just oh-so-kewl to betray the people you grew up with. Psyops 101. The left are masters at it. And yeah, we've lost to them. Don't remember which comrade said it, but he was bragging that one day our grandchildren would be spouting commie propaganda. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (LUgeY) 71
What's scary is you could tell this story again and again and again and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference.
Posted by: Caliban at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (DrC22) 72
Sheesh I just want to raise my kid in relative safety.
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at September 30, 2015 01:45 PM (IfSin) Move to the country. If you don't already know how, learn to hunt/fish/farm (at least your own vegetables), etc. Those of us (yep, I said "us") who don't do that are going to be screwed when the Burning starts. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (kff5f) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (LA7Cm) 74
Amended post title: NY Taxpayers Pay New York City Council Honors Ethel Rosenberg, Executed for High Treason for Delivering the US' Atomic Bomb Plans to the Soviet Union, for Her "Great Bravery" That's the worst part about this Leftist Revolution...we're paying for it! Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (L2Ssy) 75
Your day is coming you commie rats.
Posted by: bc733 at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (q/xuP) 76
And remember that Khrushchev would have been much better served in two ways if he'd denied the Rosenbergs had helped."
A point that a few folks made back in the day which went sailing over the prostrate forms of the leftists... Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (C9pBZ) 77
>>The mayor of NYC is a complete communist, of course he loves the Rosenbergs.
Who, Werner Wilhelm? Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (NOIQH) 78
Let us celebrate the courageous Squeaky Fromme for her brave attempt to cleanse the world of the evil rethuglican Gerald Ford!
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro Women's Health Clinic at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (ucB75) 79
Now I understand why the only way Obama thinks he can secure world peace is to give the totalitarian nutters in Iran an atomic bomb.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (1Zmfg) 80
And the rewriting/memory holing/whitewash of the 20th century continues.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (659DL) 81
Breaking: The San Francisco city council has voted to rename Golden Gate Park. It will be now be known as the Osama Bin Laden Memorial Peace and Contemplation Plaza.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (1RNgT) 82
What's a little treason amongst fellow travelers?
Posted by: Blacksheep at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (8/DeP) 83
We've successfully raised the bar where treason is only :
(1) someone right-wing (2) gun-totes (3) Christian (4) one who believes the Constitution isn't flexible (5) speaks of love of country (as if anyone could love America) In no circumstances would a Communist, Fascists, or Terrorist working to overthrow ( see transform ) the Government in the United States be EVER considered treasonous or nefarious. No criticism of need for CHANGE allowed. Thank you. Posted by: Liberals at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (e7T6D) 84
Hey, maybe if the codeword was--
YUGE AND FABULUZ Ethel would have figured out--this might be something. Posted by: The Donado at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (mcm0N) 85
It will be now be known as the Osama Bin Laden Memorial Peace and Contemplation Plaza.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 30, 2015 01:48 PM (1RNgT) When is it scheduled to be flooded? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (kff5f) 86
I can hunt at a fish farm with the best of them
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (IfSin) 87
You think they are getting ready to expand the employment horizon ?"
Think of all of those folks now open to new "opportunities". Or something. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (C9pBZ) 88
Is this letter from Ethel?
LIBERAL recommended the wife of his wife's brother, Ruth Greenglass... *** Well, sure, that will keep his Sooper Sekrit Identity sekrit! Name his wife's brother's wife. Maybe they should honor her for smartiness as well as courage-iness. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 01:49 PM (NeFrd) 89
The REAL reason the left HATED Nixon???? Alger Hiss Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (8XRCm) THIS x 1000. Alger Hiss, and before him, Helen Gahagan Douglas, another Red whom Nixon called out in so many words, IIRC. Posted by: Chuck Darwin at September 30, 2015 01:50 PM (oKE6c) 90
>>So basically the NY City Council has nothing better to do?
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide We can only suck each others dicks for so long. Posted by: NY City Council at September 30, 2015 01:50 PM (c7vUv) 91
Three council members joined Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer in issuing two proclamations lauding Rosenberg, a Lower East Side resident, for "demonstrating great bravery" in leading a 1935 strike against the National New York Packing and Supply Co., where she worked as a clerk.
I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but did these fucksticks ever issue a proclamation honoring the strikers who picketed against the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory? At least those strikers - the majority, anyway - wanted to be loyal Americans and were working to make something of themselves. As opposed to the Rosenbergs, who took advantage of American generosity in order to stab her to the heart. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 30, 2015 01:50 PM (zF6Iw) 92
citizens of the world sounds so very very familiar, as it drops out of the mouth of POTUS so frequently Posted by: ThunderB at September 30, 2015 01:50 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: Reggie "Big Harbor" Love at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (C9pBZ) 94
Who did I hear it from? A Moron the other day?
"Those who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it"? Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (XiVKO) 95
Yeah. I chuckled at the latest "there was never any cooperation between Soviets and Nazis evar"...
Just ask them about Molotov Ribbentrop. They'll stammer and stutter, if they reply at all. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (C9pBZ) They're seriously pushing that?? Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (fWAjv) 96
The REAL reason the left HATED Nixon????
Alger Hiss Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:47 PM (8XRCm) PS: Who led the charge to defend Hiss? The NYT and WaPo (per Whitaker Chambers's book Witness). Who led the charge to impeach Nixon 20 years later? The NYT and WaPo. Hmmm. Posted by: Chuck Darwin at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (oKE6c) 97
Did they Sing Sing a song at the announcement?
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (2oWD2) 98
This is different from modern Progressive Statists... how?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:37 PM (kff5f) The modern progressives can't even make a decent Five Year Plan. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (hLRSq) 99
I bet you could really feel the electricity in the air when they made the announcement.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (2oWD2) Posted by: ThunderB at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (zOTsN) 101
These are some really shockingly bad puns.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (kff5f) 102
And as far as I know, she never came out as transgendered, so what's with the "bravery" nonsense?
Yo, NYC council, that word "bravery". I do not think it means what you think it means. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (1Zmfg) 103
Enough about the Rosenbergs, what about Alger Hiss?????
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt Wants to Know at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (x2rNW) 104
Although Ethel Rosenberg never sat on the NY city council, she was given the chair by the feds.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (2oWD2) 105
These are some really shockingly bad puns.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (kff5f) ----- Ohm my..... Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (8XRCm) 106
The modern progressives can't even make a decent Five Year Plan.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (hLRSq) Sure we ca... Oh! New iPhone! It does different stuff if I push it harder! Posted by: Modern Progressive Statist at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f) 107
***"The modern progressives can't even make a decent Five Year Plan."***
Yeah, but they at least know how to win. Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (Wckf4) 108
>>citizens of the world
"global community" As Josh Earnest just said, Obama is responsible for increased tranquility amongst the global community. *snort* Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (NOIQH) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f) 110
97 Did they Sing Sing a song at the announcement?
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (2oWD2) It's Electric! You can't see it It's electric! You gotta feel it It's electric! Ooh, it's shakin' It's electric! Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (fWAjv) 111
https://twitter.com/ComradeArthur/status/649279934418911232
The bomb wasn't even the worst damage the Rosenberg's did. Posted by: Arthur at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (h53OH) 112
I bet you could really feel the electricity in the air when they made the announcement.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (2oWD2) That's just awesome. Posted by: troyriser at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (fnCax) 113
I wonder how much the left would collectively lose their shit if we were to start prosecuting mugs for treason again?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 01:55 PM (4nmNX) 114
Really, everyone should read The Sword and the Shield if they want to know just how insane the commies really were/are.
Of course, as with all inconvenient facts (like any John Lott book), they immediately DISQUALIFY. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:55 PM (XiVKO) 115
Yeah. I chuckled at the latest "there was never any cooperation between Soviets and Nazis evar"...
Just ask them about Molotov Ribbentrop. They'll stammer and stutter, if they reply at all. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:46 PM (C9pBZ) I was amused by leftists' thoughtlets that claimed that Saddam Hussein would never cooperate with al Qaeda, or whomever. As though two erstwhile enemies couldn't put their differences aside temporarily to face a common enemy. Just as we did and the Soviets did in WWII. Posted by: Chuck Darwin at September 30, 2015 01:55 PM (oKE6c) 116
Ohm my.....
Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (8XRCm) Resistance is futile. ---- Watt are your doing??? You seemed so well grounded. Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (8XRCm) 117
First they came for the commie spies, and I said nothing...
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (eEBON) 118
They're seriously pushing that??
Yeah. The kids are feeling the push of age and are trying everything to rehab the family name before shuffling off the ol' mortal coil... Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (C9pBZ) 119
I bet you could really feel the electricity in the air when they made the announcement.
***** Wow. That really made my hair stand on end. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (NeFrd) 120
Fuck these people.
Posted by: Lauren at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (yJUoa) 121
Ohm my.....
Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:53 PM (8XRCm) Resistance is futile. ---- Watt are your doing??? You seemed so well grounded. Posted by: fixerupper ____________________________________________ Don't get too amped up over it. Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (eEBON) Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (1ijHg) 123
I bet you could really feel the electricity in the air when they made the announcement.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (2oWD2) Shocking. Posted by: Chuck Darwin at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (oKE6c) 124
14 The Communists have fucking won.
Posted by: rickl 17 History is being rewritten right in front of our eyes. The Left is in full control of the USA, we are merely remnants of a former once great nation. Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists {/i] I was gonna comment, but really, you guys have already everything that needs saying. Posted by: zombie at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (jBuUi) Posted by: zombie at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (jBuUi) 126
Pol Pot gave a lot of kids a lot of experience with hammers and axes that probably opened employment opportunities to them later in life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (8ZskC) 127
Ethel Rosenbzzzzzzzttt!!!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 01:57 PM (NeFrd) 128
Maybe I'll drink a toast to Sing Sing's electric chair, "Old Sparky" this evening.
Well done, Old Sparky. She was literally, well done. Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (2oWD2) 129
At least the children and grandchildren of the big Nazi's had the decency to sterilize themselves or at least not have any kids.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (XiVKO) 130
123 I bet you could really feel the electricity in the air when they made the announcement.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 01:52 PM (2oWD2) Shocking. Posted by: Chuck Darwin _______________________________________ Is this news current? Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (eEBON) Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (C9pBZ) 132
Now Lynd says they were guilty but that their actions were justified because they helped "preserve the peace of the world." In effect, he is saying that instead of still attempting to prove the Rosenbergs were framed, we should celebrate them for being traitors to their own country.
Yes, because as everyone knows, we were 35 seconds from launching the bombers when the sainted Russians acquired the bomb. FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU.... God, I hate these people. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (7rAXc) 133
citizens of the world
sounds so very very familiar, as it drops out of the mouth of POTUS so frequently Among my dad's belongings was some paper where he used that phrase, "Worldian" I believe it was. That was back in the late '40's or early '50's, so it's been around for a while. Sounds hip, doesn't it? Intellectual, above it all, too cool for school. A way to separate yourself from the knuckle-draggers. Who wouldn't want to be identified that way? Doesn't everybody want to be the class valedictorian? It takes a truly twisted mind to turn that into something evil enough to want to kill your own countrymen. But that's what's happened. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (LUgeY) 134
First they came for the commie spies, and I said nothing...
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 30, 2015 01:56 PM (eEBON) ----- Fcuk that noise. If they started to come for the commie spies.... Id being saying "Hurry up, throw the switch already".... "You missed THIS one ever there"..... "Hey.... treasons a capitol offense you know". Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (8XRCm) 135
Anybody watching The Man in the High Castle?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (fWAjv) 136
Sock off.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (oKE6c) 137
I saw a documentary about the Rosenbergs that showed a woman holding a sign outside the place where they were executed which said: "Don't fry the Rosenbergs, they'll smell too much. Hang them!"
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 30, 2015 01:58 PM (OD2ni) 138
Second look at Benedict Arnold?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (oKE6c) 139
Watt are your doing??? You seemed so well grounded.
Posted by: fixerupper You seem charged up. You don't need to be so negative. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (kff5f) 140
101 These are some really shockingly bad puns.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) ---------------------- You seem shocked. Don't get so amped up, man. Posted by: Chi at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (Ko5ul) 141
I just want to raise my kid in relative safety.
Well then, send them to live with your relatives. "Farm at least your own vegetables." Not so hard. Lot of work, but, fun. Now, if you want bread, or beer, or whiskey, or flour, you need to farm acres of the same thing, and if you don't have a combine harvester, that's a lot of plowing and scything and winnowing by hand. It teaches you about farming. Plus, you can protect a vegetable patch with one gun, and three people sleeping in shifts. To patrol a grain field, you'll need a posse. Easy to see how one thing led to another, once that debbil grain invaded our species... Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (xq1UY) 142
I guess 'watched' would be better as there has only been one episode released.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (fWAjv) 143
But if you mention Communist conspirators, collaborators or sympathizers, they say you're a reactionary McCarthyite.
Posted by: Phinn at September 30, 2015 02:00 PM (DLUnW) 144
citizens of the world
sounds so very very familiar, as it drops out of the mouth of POTUS so frequently It's so much more polite than "useful idiots." Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:00 PM (oKE6c) 145
94 Who did I hear it from? A Moron the other day?
"Those who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it"? Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:51 PM (XiVKO) Yes, because those who do study history are outnumbered by those who don't. Posted by: rickl at September 30, 2015 02:00 PM (zoehZ) 146
But if you mention Communist conspirators, collaborators or sympathizers
Leave the Democrat Party out of this. Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:00 PM (oKE6c) 147
Fuck those guys in particular.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (kpqmD) 148
Yeah, but they at least know how to win.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 30, 2015 01:54 PM (Wckf4) "Wheee! We're the Rulers of the Ruins! Let's have lunch! What's in the fridge?" "Nothing. We got rid of anyone who was remotely capable of anything other than talking and hatred." "...." "You're, uh, looking a little plum and, uh, juicy my friend." "...." Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (hLRSq) 149
Hey that's nothing. For my action on its behalf, the Peoples Republican of Vietnam has a museum in my honor.
brb, I have some things to deliver to the Iranians. Posted by: John Francois Kerry at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (hKyl0) 150
Look me in the eye, and tell me with a straight face that the people who rewrite the history of the Rosenbergs wouldn't cheerfully send people like me off to the camps.
Posted by: Irony at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (9miVc) 151
Next week they plan to issue a proclamation honoring Mohamed Atta for bravely encouraging urban renewal. Posted by: Red is the new black at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (q4hvt) 152
Worldian" I believe it was. That was back in the late '40's or early '50's, so it's been around for a while. "
Oh yeah - that "one world" crap was big time. Do they still have the "model UN" at schools these days? Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:02 PM (C9pBZ) 153
Breaking: The city council of Milwaukee has voted to rechristen Water St. as the Jeffery Dahmer Memorial Parkway.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 30, 2015 02:02 PM (1RNgT) 154
Watt are your doing??? You seemed so well grounded.
Posted by: fixerupper You seem charged up. You don't need to be so negative. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 30, 2015 01:59 PM (kff5f) ---- **drives off in a voltswagon Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 02:02 PM (8XRCm) 155
I bet they shook in the electric chair like a plate of raspberry Jello.
Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 02:02 PM (2oWD2) 156
Listening to the Jindal podcast and I know why he's not doing better, beyond his milquetoast appearance.
He's great at presenting his case and making an argument. He's great at getting his point across. ...but he's lousy at the 150 character soundbite quick easy TL;DR answer. And that's what it takes to be a candidate today. He makes listeners who don't know the topics feel dumb. He sounds like an expert rather than an everyman. He comes across as someone better and that doesn't sell these days. Oh, and the podcast got dumb and annoying when immigration came up; the guys stopped talking with and to Jindal and just started making their own points disguised as questions. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 02:03 PM (39g3+) 157
Does anyone else smell--toast!?
Posted by: NYC Council Member at September 30, 2015 02:03 PM (mcm0N) 158
Yeah, those commie witch hunts ruined a lot of people's lives because of a nonexistent threat, unlike the true true threat of today, global warming.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 30, 2015 02:03 PM (XUKZU) 159
and tell me with a straight face that the people who rewrite the history of the Rosenbergs wouldn't cheerfully send people like me off to the camps."
Yep. It's why I keep Samuel Colt next to my, er, heart. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (C9pBZ) 160
My ass cheeks are burning.
Posted by: NYC Council Member at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (mcm0N) 161
Because they didn't believe we should be the only ones with the bomb. That is the most charitable argument I've ever read.
They believe in communism to their cores: everyone should be equally as miserable. There should be no superpowers. Redistribute the radioisotopes? Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (oKE6c) 162
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:01 PM (hLRSq)
Also true, but what does it say about us that we're not able to beat them? The Left basically runs the whole damn world at this point. The fact that it's rapidly going to shit doesn't seem to faze them since we're still around to blame. Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (Wckf4) 163
Bowie Bergdahl
Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (NOIQH) 164
How would you like to pay for your treason, Mrs. Rosenberg? Cash or charge?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (NeFrd) 165
Ohm my, but the puns are getting worse.
Posted by: Chi at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (Ko5ul) Posted by: Every Leftist at September 30, 2015 02:05 PM (JmGFJ) 167
O/T, but this was the best picture I saw posted of the blood moon:
https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CQJx24oWoAEIo5g.jpg Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 30, 2015 02:05 PM (eEBON) 168
I coulda fixed them there Rosenberg's real quick with my Law West of the Pecos cure. Rope....tree....hang till dead! Posted by: Judge Roy Bean, Law West of the Pecos at September 30, 2015 02:05 PM (OiFtZ) 169
39 Rosenberg's code name was Liberal?
Well of course it was. Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2015 01:41 PM (/tuJf) Not much of a code name, is it? Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:05 PM (oKE6c) 170
They have gone fully Orwellian.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 02:06 PM (C/DS0) Posted by: Jollyroger at September 30, 2015 02:06 PM (t06LC) 172
Oh yeah - that "one world" crap was big time. Do they still have the "model UN" at schools these days?
I heard the term, "New world order" in a Three Stooges short. Yeah, this shit's been around for a while. Age has only increased its stench. Socrates had it right - http://backwardsboy.blogspot.com/2012/09/a-blast-from-past-america-love-it-or.html Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 30, 2015 02:06 PM (LUgeY) 173
Just like to point out that David Axelrod was raised in this environment. His mother was a writer for PM newspaper back in the day and that rag was a communist propaganda organ. It also employed I F Stone who was implicated in the Verona intercepts and by captured Soviet agents.
Axelrod's family has long ties to the commies. Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (/tuJf) 174
There are thousands of people who led labor strikes and actually did a better job at it, too.
She was a lousy mother. Her kids were out of control and that was one of the reasons the guy who took their passport photos remembered them (that and the fact they ordered 29 photos when 3 would have sufficed). The kids were kicked out of the shop because they ran wild and were breaking things. That and the fact their mother loved Stalin and Beria more than her own kids. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (iQIUe) 175
LIBERAL and OSA have been invited to a meeting with BUGZAPPER.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (NeFrd) 176
"Also true, but what does it say about us that we're not able to beat them?"
That we're not as good at the talking and the hating yet? And that things haven't reached the point of a trial of physical strength. (And God Help Us All if we do come to that.) Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (hLRSq) 177
>>> "I heard the term, "New world order" in a Three Stooges short. Yeah, this
shit's been around for a while. Age has only increased its stench" None dare call it conspiracy. Posted by: Phinn at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (DLUnW) 178
That old commie Pete Seeger croaked recently. He was a mainstay at the Rosenberg support rallies.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 30, 2015 02:08 PM (OD2ni) 179
I'm so sick of these people. The problem is, for me anyway (I've said this before), is that we don't have a proactive political militia to fight them, politically speaking. We, as people, chronicle their disgusting outrages to no end, and this can be cathartic. But we don't have warriors within the system fighting for us, inflicting damage, demoralizing them. The shit the Left gets away with every day is unbelievable and unconscionable. What a target-rich field or a politician! To fight them would of course entail fighting the media and getting ugly about it, and this seems beyond anybody's nerve or skills. Trump gets in a random bear swipe then makes kissy-face, Ted Cruz some cute speech lines, Ben Carson oh-so politely rebukes them in interviews. But we have no fu*king sword-swinging Vikings going after their fu*king Leftist hides and heads EVERY DAY. Fu*k the Republicans. Look at their farce of hearings. Planned Parenthood is in better shape now than before the hearings. And where is the reckoning for the media liars who said Carly Fiorina lied about the videos? Who on our political team is making them pay? I got into an argument on another blog yesterday with some Republican who said we absolutely, positively CANNOT sound mean or harsh or the media would make mincemeat of us and instead we just had to use humor to make fun of them. Humor? Are you kidding? They use bush-hogs on us and we use "humor"? Humor might have worked 30 years ago against addle-pated liberals. We're in a knife fight for our country. We're dealing with raging Leftists. We need political warriors with knives.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 30, 2015 02:08 PM (s/yC1) 180
50 The masks are coming off in a big way nowadays. Used to be communists in public office were skittish about coming out but I guess the mainstreaming of Marxism in liberal circles and the relative success of avowed socialist Bernie Sander's primary candidacy is giving them heart.
I suggest to anyone who hasn't read Whittaker Chambers' book, 'Witness', read it now. Posted by: troyriser at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (fnCax) Seconded. Also read Bella Dodd's "School of Darkness" (available free online at http://genus.cogia.net/), which is of the same ilk. Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:09 PM (oKE6c) 181
I hope that this backfires and serves as a reminder of how traitors *ought* to be treated. Scheming to subjugate or destroy millions of free people. What a vile, sociopathic piles of dogshit. Yet there always seems to be a neverending supply.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 30, 2015 02:09 PM (1Zmfg) 182
I haven't received this weeks edition of "SJW Weekly: What to be outraged about" but isn't this TFG promoting violence against woman or something something...
http://tinyurl.com/q3hq2eh Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 30, 2015 02:09 PM (fWAjv) 183
>>Axelrod's family has long ties to the commies.
Most of Obama's closest buds are 2nd and third generation Commies - Jarrett, Axe, Geithner, etc. http://discoverthenetworks.org/ Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (NOIQH) 184
The term New World Order also popped up as a translation of some Nazi propaganda used in the 1945 documentary The Nazi Plan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (C/DS0) 185
Also true, but what does it say about us that we're not able to beat them?
It says that people prefer the easy lie over the hard truth, especially in a powerful, rich, and comfortable civilization. I believe, strongly, that civilizations are suicidal. That as we reach a point where we as a people do not need the virtues that built the live we come to enjoy, we abandon those virtues and necessarily corrode from within. That it is inevitable, unstoppable, for a civilization to self destruct. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (39g3+) 186
Another "local crime story"?
Posted by: JohnJ at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (TF/YA) 187
Giving USSR information so they could build an atomic bomb: Heroic!
Refusing to cater hypothetical wedding pizza to hypothetical homo pretend wedding: Burn the witch! Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (XUKZU) 188
After having read, "Blacklisted by History" by M. Stanton Evans it's amusing to read crap like this. Whenever these d!p$h!t$ are called on their ahistorical @$$h@tery they just claim it's "old news".
Posted by: Derp Williams at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (2X7pN) 189
>>Oh yeah - that "one world" crap was big time. Do they still have the "model UN" at schools these days?
Like the Star Trek politics guy said, that was back when the left was universalist and thought the whole world could turn into Belgium. Now it's the "conservatives" who are universalists and the left's only principle is "western civ bad, must destroy", and they're turning the whole world into Somalia. Posted by: a phoenician sailor at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (uEmgg) 190
So ... did they finally settle on Ethel Rosenberg replacing Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (zc3Db) 191
From the link:
For, after having brought you into the world, and nurtured and educated you, and given you and every other citizen a share in every good that we had to give, we further proclaim and give the right to every Athenian, that if he does not like us when he has come of age and has seen the ways of the city, and made our acquaintance, he may go where he pleases and take his goods with him; and none of us laws will forbid him or interfere with him. Any of you who does not like us and the city, and who wants to go to a colony or to any other city, may go where he likes, and take his goods with him. But he who has experience of the manner in which we order justice and administer the State, and still remains, has entered into an implied contract that he will do as we command him. And he who disobeys us is, as we maintain, thrice wrong: first, because in disobeying us he is disobeying his parents; secondly, because we are the authors of his education; thirdly, because he has made an agreement with us that he will duly obey our commands; and he neither obeys them nor convinces us that our commands are wrong; and we do not rudely impose them, but give him the alternative of obeying or convincing us; that is what we offer and he does neither. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 30, 2015 02:11 PM (LUgeY) 192
There was no excuse for the Rosenbergs to play ignorant about what was happening in Russia. Plenty of people escaped to talk about it. Emma Goldman was one of them.
Rosenberg looks all dainty like but he was a big guy and had no problems threatening his agents when they didnt obey his orders. He ran about 70+ agents - it was no small ring. Also, Ethyl was the one who convinced her sister in law and brother to steal the atom secrets. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:11 PM (iQIUe) 193
I've heard the arguments about US Imperialism many times -- I had a couple of commies in the extended family. What I've never had Marx-splained to me is, what would that have looked like? I mean, it's often said that Africans getting refrigerators was just GE "imperialism."
Would full-blown American Empire in those days have been, like, enforced Little League, Levittown rambler houses all up and down the Hindu Kush, blacktop parkways in the Gobi? Hard to pin down exactly what it was they were afraid of. Elvis, maybe. Hmm. Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:11 PM (xq1UY) 194
Look me in the eye, and tell me with a straight face
that the people who rewrite the history of the Rosenbergs wouldn't cheerfully send people like me off to the camps. Posted by: Irony You should read the book, The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin's Russia[i/] by Tim Tzouliadis. It's all about the idiots who went looking for the workers' paradise (ever notice how "workers" want to do everthing except work?) in the Soviet Union and got thrown into gulags instead. It's pretty much all schadenboner until you get to the part where these idiots' kids were later rounded up when they got a little older. Really sad. They didn't decide to go to the Soviet Union, their commie loving parents really screwed them over. Posted by: Dang at September 30, 2015 02:11 PM (2oWD2) 195
175 LIBERAL and OSA have been invited to a meeting with BUGZAPPER.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 02:07 PM (NeFrd) Beautiful. Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:12 PM (oKE6c) 196
Next week: a tribute to Benedict Arnold for attempting to prevent the establishment of West Point as a training ground for privileged American paternalistic fascists.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 30, 2015 02:12 PM (ppaKI) Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 30, 2015 02:13 PM (NeFrd) 198
I hope that this backfires and serves as a reminder of how traitors *ought* to be treated. Scheming to subjugate or destroy millions of free people. What a vile, sociopathic piles of dogshit. Yet there always seems to be a neverending supply.
---- Doubt it. Remember..... we just kicked a soldier out the Army for pushing an Afghan Cop to the floor after the cop repeatedly raped a young boy and beat up his mother. If we as a people cant gin up outrage over "pedophile rape"..... we sure as hell aint giving two shits about archaic ideas like "betrayal of ones country". Posted by: fixerupper at September 30, 2015 02:13 PM (8XRCm) 199
We as a people are comfortable, so buying the lie is pretty damned cheap.
Half your kids dying before they're ten while being subsistence farmers and the lie becomes infinitely more expensive. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 02:13 PM (XiVKO) 200
The Memory Hole
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 30, 2015 02:13 PM (3mTyP) 201
Oldspeak will get you thrown in Joycamp
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 30, 2015 02:14 PM (3mTyP) 202
New York City Council Honors Ethel Rosenberg, Executed for High Treason for Delivering the US' Atomic Bomb Plans to the Soviet Union, for Her "Great Bravery"
******* Can we question their patriotism now? Posted by: Ed at September 30, 2015 02:14 PM (C+qQ0) 203
166 Colombia's last nomadic tribe in despair at loss of culture...
NATIVISTS!!!! Posted by: Every Leftist at September 30, 2015 02:05 PM (JmGFJ) And me!!!! Posted by: Bill Kristol, SEVERE conservative at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (sJuWI) 204
Do they still have the "model UN" at schools these days?
Funny you should mention it: just last night little Guevara and I were discussing his participation in that. Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: The Jackhole at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (3mTyP) 206
They now argue that although it appears Julius Rosenberg was a Soviet spy after all, he gave little of value to the Soviets, was motivated by the desire to stave off atomic war, and in any case had nothing to do with handing over atomic information of any kind to the Soviet Union. Sounds a lot like Calvin getting defensive about The Noodle Incident. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (o98Jz) 207
Well I didn't and wouldn't vote for any of those NYC Commies.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (JO9+V) 208
The commies just trash Ethyl's mom bc she told her daughter to confess. How could she confess when it was a lie, they claim. lol
They also claim that she abused the boys b/c she told them to tell their mother to confess and then come home and care for them. Great advice. The grandma was also elderly and in poor health and in no condition to care for brats. Not until after the execution did the Meerpols step up. None of the other reds bothered. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (iQIUe) Posted by: Khrushchev's Ghost at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (mcm0N) 210
A whole lot of books will need to be burned to erase these facts.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (zaNRA) 211
>>Most of Obama's closest buds are 2nd and third generation Commies - Jarrett, Axe, Geithner, etc.
Looking at what's going on in Ukraine, in Cuba, what just happened in Iran, what is happening in Syria, if Obama wasn't a Russian mole, what would he do differently? Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2015 02:15 PM (/tuJf) 212
New York is honoring Ethel Rosenberg, Los Angeles just honored Motorhead. Just sayin', I think LA's got a few more points in their cool-book for that one. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (XiVKO) Well, sure. Everyone's lawn is dead in LA, so might as well blame it on Lemmy and the boys. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2015 02:16 PM (o98Jz) 213
Patetic. Somebody should send copy of General Pavel Sudoplatov(head of Stalin's foreign operation department of NKVD) book to these morons..
In this book Sudoplatov shows how easily KGB recruited left liberals to spy for USSR. Posted by: redmonkey at September 30, 2015 02:16 PM (2R6mJ) 214
I hate
Posted by: rickl at September 30, 2015 02:16 PM (zoehZ) 215
Oh well, back to the writing while risking with every word Scrivener crashing since I have multiple 4MB images embedded.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 02:17 PM (C/DS0) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:17 PM (iQIUe) 217
Soccer players, every one of them.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 01:43 PM (xq1UY) heh! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:18 PM (0yhH4) Posted by: stace at September 30, 2015 02:18 PM (CoX6k) 219
Oddly IIRC, Osa in Spanish means 'bear.' But yeah back to the writing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 02:18 PM (C/DS0) 220
Burning the facts was what the Mitrokhin Archive was all about. At the fall of the Soviet Union, they started destroying all their documents.
Vasili Mitrokhin saved them, because he saw history being destroyed before his eyes. Except he wasn't powerless to stop it. Though it doesn't stop the commies from denying it. Posted by: Chupacabras at September 30, 2015 02:19 PM (XiVKO) 221
Oh yeah - that "one world" crap was big time. Do they still have the "model UN" at schools these days?
Yes, and I wouldn't mind if they gave the real UN instead of the "here's what we think it should be like ideally" UN. Have the teacher bribe people to get his choices on the councils, and get decisions made. Have reports on the corruption and destruction of NGO's. Have them clearly identify human rights violators, then tell them that these nations are on human rights councils. Create a nation - lets call it Jootopia - and have it continually condemned for fighting back against attacks and terrorist strikes, while rarely condemning the attackers and terrorists. In short, teach them about the real UN, as it exists in the real world. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 02:19 PM (39g3+) Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:19 PM (oKE6c) 223
As commies and "citizen of the world" the Rosenberg she accept credit for the Cheka, the purges, the starvation, etc.
Youtube has some great video of conferences on the Rosenbergs. Worth a look. There are always commie trolls in the audience. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:20 PM (iQIUe) 224
Despite its import and inflection having changed, I wouldn't rag on "New World Order" too hard. Put it in Latin, and it's disturbingly familiar.
FWIW, "One World" is a book by that rabble-rousing Wendell Willkie. Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:20 PM (xq1UY) 225
Valerie Jarret: FLUFFER
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 30, 2015 02:21 PM (ppaKI) Posted by: Khrushchev's Ghost at September 30, 2015 02:21 PM (mcm0N) 227
Most of Obama's closest buds are 2nd and third generation Commies - Jarrett, Axe, Geithner, etc.
http://discoverthenetworks.org/ Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:10 PM (NOIQH) Didn't the current or former press secretary adorn the walls of his million dollar dacha with Russian Revolution posters and artwork? Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2015 02:21 PM (JO9+V) 228
In short, teach them about the real UN, as it exists in the real world.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 02:19 PM (39g3+) =========== You would need a rape room. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:21 PM (iQIUe) 229
Quakers and the peace movement were nothing but commie fronts. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
--- Nixon was a Quaker, btw. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 30, 2015 02:22 PM (1Zmfg) 230
They now argue that although it appears Julius Rosenberg was a Soviet
spy after all, he gave little of value to the Soviets, was motivated by the desire to stave off atomic war, and in any case had nothing to do with handing over atomic information of any kind to the Soviet Union. Sounds like a jailbird's denial: "I wasn't there, it was an accident, it was self-defense, and besides, he had it coming." Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:22 PM (oKE6c) 231
Ethel Rosenberg may have been a traitor and a spy, but she was from the Lower East Side, so it wasn't like she was a snowbilly, someone that needed to be destroyed.
Priorities. Posted by: jwest at September 30, 2015 02:22 PM (Zs4uk) 232
Democrats are now full-blown communists, and Republicans are to the left of Carter. Is it any wonder that voter participation is in the basement, and the only candidates for president that are getting any traction are those who have little or no DC experience?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2015 02:22 PM (zaNRA) 233
They weren't Quakers.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 30, 2015 02:22 PM (PJ0bc) 234
We can only suck each others dicks for so long.
Posted by: NY City Council at September 30, 2015 01:50 PM (c7vUv) It's a blow for freedom. Get it? Posted by: Red Bill de Blasio at September 30, 2015 02:23 PM (8ZskC) 235
The FBI makes many of their declassified records available online. It's amazing what small circles the commies ran in.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:23 PM (iQIUe) 236
So when is New York planning to hold Comrade Obama's ticker tape parade?
Posted by: Fritz at September 30, 2015 02:23 PM (UzPAd) 237
I don't know why this surprises you. The Mayor is a "Red Baby" his parents known communist.
Why would we expect anything else from the only state that did NOT vote for the of Declaration of Independence ? GOT that? The vote was 12-0. NY State abstained. Fvcking pussies then, and pussies now. Sorry ace, move out of that rat hole. Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:23 PM (jJRIy) 238
The USA is an aggressive, militaristic, imperialistic, colonialistic power. All tensions in the world can be laid at its feet. The Soviets have a reason to be paranoid and defensive - look how much damage and death they suffered in WWII. If the US would only disarm then the Soviets would see they have nothing to fear and world tensions would drop.
The USA is an aggressive, militaristic, imperialistic, and colonialistic power. Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union the world has been unbalanced with an American hegemon intruding into other nations' spheres of influence - a true act of aggression of the imperialistic and colonialistic variety. It is not without reason that Iran, Russia, and China - as well as grassroots native groups such as Al Qaeda and ISIS - have resisted the American actions. The USA needs to disarm and retreat from the world, allowing local native groups the opportunity for their peoples and cultures to develop as well as showing respect for other regional powers' spheres of influence. Yeah, the codswallop the Left was pushing during the Cold War is the same as it is pushing today; only today there is an administration that actually believes the leftist spin. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:24 PM (hLRSq) Posted by: Khrushchev's Ghost at September 30, 2015 02:25 PM (mcm0N) 240
Didn't Anita Dunn (Lizard Tongue) say one of her favorite people was Mao?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 30, 2015 02:25 PM (FsuaD) 241
Tailgunner Joe was right!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2015 02:25 PM (JO9+V) 242
"As commies and "citizen of the world" the Rosenberg she accept credit for the Cheka, the purges, the starvation, etc."
I like to have hot masseuse chicks release my Cheka. Posted by: Al Gore at September 30, 2015 02:26 PM (OD2ni) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:26 PM (iQIUe) 244
You all need to go visit Cuba now so you can still see what true communism like
Ethel wanted. Before capitalism makes it all comfy and nice. Posted by: MSM at September 30, 2015 02:27 PM (GfSPN) 245
I have my friends working on my honorary. Somehow it's a harder sell in Kiev that NYC.
Can't understand why. Posted by: Walter Duranty at September 30, 2015 02:27 PM (jJRIy) 246
165 Ohm my, but the puns are getting worse.
Posted by: Chi at September 30, 2015 02:04 PM (Ko5ul) --- That's re-volting! Posted by: Axeman at September 30, 2015 02:27 PM (2mC6G) 247
I wonder if Mary Cloggenstein drove her Volvo station wagon down from Brattleboro for the Rosenberg event.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 30, 2015 02:28 PM (OD2ni) 248
Remind me again why selling secrets to Russia was as a bad thing?
PS: I'm really conservative, like Reagan. Posted by: Trumpet Daddy at September 30, 2015 02:28 PM (0LHZx) 249
OK ... I'll ask the uncomfortable question.
If we're all in agreement that The State has went full-bore Orwell, a majority of it's citizens will happily enforce it's will, and that force will most likely be directed at us ... ... why do we, as a group, still reflexively support not only the currents means of The State to project said force - but insist on an expansion of the same ? Posted by: Irony at September 30, 2015 02:29 PM (9miVc) 250
Next up... Ticker tape parade for Bergdahl?
For his bravery in ... oh crap... can't even come up with something stupid... Posted by: BB Wolf at September 30, 2015 02:29 PM (qh617) 251
OT: Confirmation? Who needs confirmation?
The Obama administration official most likely in line to become the next U.S. envoy to the Coalition to Counter the Islamic State (IS, also known as ISIS or ISIL) has falsely presented himself as an official U.S. ambassador by the administration for the last five months, according to documents reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon.[i/] Hey, Obama has a pen and a phone, he doesn't need to be bogged down with 'advise and consent' red tape, people!!! http://freebeacon.com/national-security/ phony-ambassador-running-obamas-anti-islamic-state-diplomacy/ Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:29 PM (NOIQH) 252
So, the well-done Rosenburgers took it in the shorts? (off dirty sock)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at September 30, 2015 02:30 PM (ucB75) 253
248
Remind me again why selling secrets to Russia was as a bad thing? PS: I'm really conservative, like Reagan. Posted by: Trumpet Daddy at September 30, 2015 02:28 PM (0LHZx) Is that you Snowden? Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:30 PM (jJRIy) 254
Meanwhile, Ted Kennedy famously went to Moscow and offered to help undermine Reagan's foreign policy as a way of advancing his worthless ass by selling out America. /spit
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:30 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:31 PM (xq1UY) 256
Actually that's MooMoo's hash.
Posted by: Khrushchev's Ghost at September 30, 2015 02:32 PM (mcm0N) 257
I'm reading a late fifties Senatorial procedural thriller right now. Seriously. Advise and Consent by Allen Drury. It's very good, although I still don't know whether the Secretary of State is guilty--sometimes, I'm pretty sure he is, sometimes I think it might be overreaction. There's one funny section where the Soviets themselves start scrambling to see if he was one of their spies.
"...They cry surrender or they cry war; they try to prevent us from discussing the other possibilities that still exist, the only possibilities, it seems to me, of ever achieving that genuine peace they are always yapping about." In many ways, that is the story of President Obama "... Our enemies and our friends together have succeeded in paralyzing us with self-doubt, and under the tutelage of all of you we have become afraid to really care, because to really care has become unfashionable, and also, of course, because to really care would impose upon us the necessity of acting in support of the things we really care for, and nobody wants us to do that anymore." Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2015 02:32 PM (2lndx) 258
Stephen Green@VodkaPundit 8:12 PM - 29 Sep 2015
You know, 30 or 40 years ago a KGB officer like Putin would have recruited a lefty college schmuck like Obama. Oh, wait... Posted by: Mortimer at September 30, 2015 02:32 PM (0dcbp) 259
Tolerate we much. Diversity is our strength. It is this political debate that makes us stronger. That is why, when they round us up to take us to the camps, we'll go quietly because it is our Christian duty to be non violent.
And when they lock us in the church, we'll sing Amazing Grace as they set fire to the building. Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 30, 2015 02:32 PM (3S5HJ) 260
Hmm. Recall G.B. Shaw in the 30s - "Today there is a statue of Washington in Leningrad; and tomorrow there will no doubt be a statue of Lenin in New York".
Guess it just took a few years longer than planned. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ) 261
And the EPA, and Dept. of Energy, HUD, NEA, a big chunk of HHS (as part of Obamacare repeal), and have the TSA scaled back to INS....
Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (NOIQH) 262
If you read the bios coming out on Mao now, he was a total perv.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (iQIUe) Posted by: Zombie 200 plus million persons killed by Communisim at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (D0NZx) 264
And when they lock us in the church, we'll sing Amazing Grace as they set fire to the building."
So today's Sweden, then. Hmm. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:34 PM (C9pBZ) 265
Will there be a plaque we can piss on? Or just that cheap proclamation paper?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:34 PM (iQIUe) 266
Who was Volok, whose name is redacted in the notes at the bottom of the decrypt?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:34 PM (0yhH4) 267
@258 Remember Billy Jeff Clanton nyuk-nyukkin' "Ah went to Moscow..aheh...as a student..."
Oh, I believed him, all right. Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:35 PM (xq1UY) 268
I can't wait to drive across the Benedict Arnold Bridge.
Posted by: Cheri at September 30, 2015 02:35 PM (oiNtH) 269
If you read the bios coming out on Mao now, he was a total perv. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (iQIUe) And had notoriously......casual......personal hygiene. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2015 02:35 PM (UBLhq) 270
I started banging this drum on the morning thread. Our elites are ashamed of our success. They want to see us laid low because we deserve it.
Posted by: blaster at September 30, 2015 02:36 PM (GjigR) 271
On one of these Hwd gossip sites, they claim some actress is boinking the president of Ecuador who is also a commie. I cant remember the name of the cooch tho.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:36 PM (iQIUe) 272
So, rhetorically speaking, wouldn't a bunch of soviet spies celebrate her as well? The differences between your average progressive andyour averageKGB agent are not very significant.
Posted by: simplemind at September 30, 2015 02:36 PM (okK4f) 273
I say its time to honor Hitler for his watercolors.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 30, 2015 02:37 PM (k8tEg) 274
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:24 PM (hLRSq)
The Soviet Union did not fall... it went into voluntary Bankruptcy, and got rid of assets that were working at a loss. It then rebranded back to its old name of Russia... But its national debt is about 11% of GDP... where ours is well north of 100%... They also still MAKE stuff... unlike the US which is exporting all its manufacturing base. Sadly, Russia has a much more sustainable economy than we do... Posted by: BB Wolf at September 30, 2015 02:37 PM (qh617) 275
Didn't Anita Dunn (Lizard Tongue) say one of her favorite people was Mao?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 30, 2015 02:25 PM (FsuaD) Worse. Lizard Tongue described Mao as 'one of her two favorite philosophers'. Posted by: RickZ at September 30, 2015 02:38 PM (dcIVz) 276
I was in college right after the Berlin Wall came down. Most of my professors were proud Communists, and very depressed that the wrong nation won the Cold War. The biggest thing I took away from my college experience is the discovery of how influential Communism still is in the academic/intellectual world. Any academics or intellectuals MUST be Communists in order to be accepted by their peers.
48 There's this sort of alternate history Democrats USED to push that they were on the right side of the Cold War and united, but the truth was, many were secretly rooting for the Soviet Union and were devastated it lost. It's just now they feel more comfortable coming out of the closet. Posted by: Coolio at September 30, 2015 01:42 PM (BiSBB) Posted by: Pyrocles at September 30, 2015 02:38 PM (fVOPU) 277
This is nothing new really. Bard College up the Hudson River has a Alger Hiss Chair of Social Studies.
Posted by: Ghost of Whit Chambers at September 30, 2015 02:38 PM (jLStj) 278
>>You know, 30 or 40 years ago a KGB officer like Putin would have recruited a lefty college schmuck like Obama. Oh, wait...
Bernie Sanders honeymooned in USSR. Werner/de Blasio honeymooned in Cuba. Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:38 PM (NOIQH) Posted by: Adriane the Word Processor Critic ... at September 30, 2015 02:38 PM (qOsoH) 280
If you read the bios coming out on Mao now, he was a total perv.
The problem with Chinese cultural revolutions is, you kill a thousand capitalist roaders for lunch and an hour later you're bloodthirsty again. Posted by: Mao's Little Red Book at September 30, 2015 02:39 PM (8ZskC) 281
>>... why do we, as a group, still reflexively support not only the currents means of The State to project said force - but insist on an expansion of the same ?
Some people still think they can take control of the thing by winning elections. Why they think those in power would leave themselves vulnerable to elections, and why they would want control of a shambling mess facing long years of painful decline, I don't know. Posted by: a phoenician sailor at September 30, 2015 02:39 PM (uEmgg) 282
Our elites are ashamed of our success. They want to see us laid low because we deserve it."
Nothing new. Bing up Anna Louise Strong and Eleanor Roosevelt. Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:40 PM (C9pBZ) 283
Guess it just took a few years longer than planned.
Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ) There is one in Seattle. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:40 PM (0yhH4) 284
But its national debt is about 11% of GDP... where ours is well north of 100%... Russia has never stopped lying about its economy any more than China. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 02:40 PM (39g3+) 285
@251 Confirmation. Good one, Lizzy.
This has to be the ultimate "Ambassador Without Portfolio." Back in the top-hat, striped-trouser days, the first thing an ambassador did was "present his credentials." That was a formal ceremony, with actual portfolio. Impersonating a diplomat was so impossible, a movie wouldn't depict it. Now, you have a president without a security clearance, and a SoS with her own secret intelligence network. Credentials? What credentials? Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (xq1UY) 286
... and it looks like somebody read The Suicide of the West a couple weeks ago.
Curiously, this ties into something I remembered but enjoyed perusing again in Band of Brothers. The notion that, without the Great Depression, America could not have won WWII. That notion of the cycle from Bondage to Freedom to Bondage is pretty damned interesting. And I wish I could hoard more books. Posted by: Irony at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (9miVc) Posted by: anon a mouse at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (C9pBZ) 288
They also still MAKE stuff... unlike the US which is exporting all its manufacturing base.
Sadly, Russia has a much more sustainable economy than we do... Posted by: BB Wolf at September 30, 2015 02:37 PM (qh617) Horse shit. Russian GDP? OIL! 16% of GDP, 52% of government budget and 70% of it's exports. They don't build shit. Name something Russian you buy. Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (jJRIy) 289
Secretary of Defense asked about Russians in Syria. Talks about women in combat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (W5DcG) 290
Who was Volok, whose name is redacted in the notes at the bottom of the decrypt?
Libertarian blogger, has a gig with WaPo these days. Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (1xUj/) 291
Meanwhile, Ted Kennedy famously went to Moscow and offered to help undermine Reagan's foreign policy as a way of advancing his worthless ass by selling out America. /spit Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:30 PM He sent former senator, John Tunney to do his dirty work. Posted by: huerfano at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (O2jYw) 292
237,
Makes me want to post the quote from 1776 about WHY New York kept abstaining, which was hilarious and sad at the same time. Doesn't quite work right from a phone though. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (b2/Ti) 293
Sadly, Russia has a much more sustainable economy than we do...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 30, 2015 02:37 PM (qh617) By all reports I have heard Russia's economy is based on resource extraction and export, primarily oil and gas. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (hLRSq) 294
NYC is a goner.. Can you say "Hello Detroit"
And with Fredo in the White House and Saunders actually making a serious run, so is the US of A it seems. Sigh. SMOD, oh why have thou forsaken us? Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (DUoqb) Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (4nmNX) 296
The Leftists have stopped even denying their Marxist Leftist ways at least 5 years ago. Not even pretending anymore. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (ODxAs) 297
I cant recommend the book Engineering Communism by Steve Usdin highly enough. It's about the spy ring Rosenberg ran. Most managed to flee. When Elisabeth Bently went to the FBI with all the names of the spies she knew the Phily also saw the list and warned everybody. So, they escaped. That's what Rosenberg was doing when he was arrested- telling everyone to flee and giving them money to help the leave. These engineers would bring plans to weapons to their apt and spend 3 days filming it to hand over to the reds. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (iQIUe) 298
They don't build shit. Name something Russian you buy.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (jJRIy) Guns, for one thing. Vodka. Hot blondes? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:44 PM (0yhH4) 299
Name something Russian you buy.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:41 PM (jJRIy) Well Vodka and Caviar, but your point is still valid Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:44 PM (DUoqb) 300
Shit I forgot the wives from Russia...bad on me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:44 PM (DUoqb) 301
>>Meanwhile, Ted Kennedy famously went to Moscow and offered to help
undermine Reagan's foreign policy as a way of advancing his worthless ass by selling out America. /spit Wasn't John Kerry meeting with Commies and other enemies overseas during his anti-war days? Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:44 PM (NOIQH) 302
Guns, for one thing. Vodka. Hot blondes?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:44 PM (0yhH4) OK OK and bad ammo now that we are listing stuff. Posted by: Nip Sip at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (jJRIy) Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (4nmNX) 304
I say its time to honor Hitler for his watercolors.
You're hosting a Rubio fund-raiser. Aren't you. Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (xq1UY) 305
They don't build shit. Name something Russian you buy.
Kaspersky anti-virus software. Yeah, I know. I didn't say -I- bought it. Still boggles me people would... Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (9krrF) 306
By the way Sec of Def Carter just sounded like a horse's ass
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (DUoqb) 307
I also heard that Ethyl was getting General Electric's Lifetime Achievement Award.
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2015 02:46 PM (Fmupd) Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2015 02:46 PM (NOIQH) Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer at September 30, 2015 02:46 PM (b2/Ti) 310
I also heard that Ethyl was getting General Electric's Lifetime Achievement Award.
Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2015 02:46 PM (Fmupd) I heard that she is getting one from Col. Saunders for being finger liking good after she was fried up? Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:47 PM (DUoqb) 311
By the way Sec of Def Carter just sounded like a horse's ass
Whaaat?? A horse's ass holds a high position in the Obama administration? The deuce, you say! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 30, 2015 02:47 PM (8ZskC) 312
Nope. Tito's is better and is made locally.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:45 PM (4nmNX) That may be the case. But it doesn't alter the fact that Russia makes and sells the stuff worldwide. It's what you can buy, not what should buy, or might want to buy. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 02:47 PM (0yhH4) 313
The Russians are laughing their asses off right about now
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:47 PM (DUoqb) 314
Sorry for all my typos. The keyboard is kaput as are my fingers and eyesight.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:47 PM (iQIUe) 315
309: "When you buy them they're called call girls, Cyril."
When you rent them they are call girls. When you buy them, they are wiv.... OW! OW! My balls! Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:48 PM (4nmNX) 316
When you buy them they're called call girls, Cyril.
Point of order, that's technically a rental. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:48 PM (9krrF) 317
The Russians live off oil, gas, and other natural resource sales and still the crap they plundered from Germany at the end of WW2
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:49 PM (DUoqb) 318
Point of order, that's technically a rental.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:48 PM (9krrF) So are many wives Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:49 PM (DUoqb) 319
Nood non-Russian
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:50 PM (4nmNX) 320
Dont understand how all these western commies could/can ignore the misery of communism.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:50 PM (iQIUe) 321
They don't build shit. Name something Russian you buy.>>>
Well 52% bought the president they made Obama. Posted by: Willy J. at September 30, 2015 02:50 PM (GfSPN) Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:50 PM (9krrF) 323
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared before world leaders Wednesday that he is no longer bound by agreements signed with Israel and called on the United Nations to provide international protection for Palestinians, in the most serious warning yet that he might walk away from engagement with the Jewish state.
Someone should put a bullet thru his head Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:51 PM (DUoqb) 324
Dont understand how all these western commies could/can ignore the misery of communism.
They assume someone else gets the misery. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:51 PM (9krrF) 325
So are many wives
By current law, they own you. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 30, 2015 02:50 PM (9krrF) Are you married? I am lucky I own my skivvies Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:51 PM (DUoqb) 326
Used aircraft carriers have been a hot Russian sales item lately.
At these prices, you don't have to sell that many. Couple years back, there was a Typhoon on eBay. Now there's one in Latakia Bay. Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 30, 2015 02:52 PM (xq1UY) 327
IF Stone also dallied as a soviet agent.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:52 PM (iQIUe) 328
He sent former senator, John Tunney to do his dirty work.
Posted by: huerfano at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (O2jYw) Hard to believe John Tunney was the son of Gene Tunney, world heavyweight champion, the man who beat Jack Dempsey twice and Harry Greb four out of five times. Just finished reading Gene Tunney's book, 'Arms For Living'. By all accounts--even by those who didn't like him personally--Gene Tunney was a good man who strived to remain good and decentin a dirty racket. What the hell happened with his kids? Posted by: troyriser at September 30, 2015 02:53 PM (fnCax) Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 30, 2015 02:53 PM (4WhSY) 330
295 288: "Name something Russian you buy." Wives. Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 30, 2015 02:43 PM (4nmNX) To be fair, aren't those more along the line of "renting" or "long-term lease"? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2015 02:53 PM (UBLhq) 331
The differences between your average progressive and your average KGB agent are not very significant.
- Same difference as between a slut and a whore; one gets paid. Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 30, 2015 02:53 PM (XUKZU) 332
The Russians live off oil, gas, and other natural resource sales and
still the crap they plundered from Germany at the end of WW2>>> Ural motorcycles? http://www.imz-ural.com/ Still making stolen WWII BMWs. Posted by: Willy J. at September 30, 2015 02:54 PM (GfSPN) 333
The differences between your average progressive and your average KGB agent are not very significant.
Oh contrer....the Progressive is clueless...The KGB agent knows exactly what he wants and goes and gets it Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:55 PM (DUoqb) 334
323 Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared before world leaders Wednesday that he is no longer bound by agreements signed with Israel and called on the United Nations to provide international protection for Palestinians, in the most serious warning yet that he might walk away from engagement with the Jewish state.
Someone should put a bullet thru his head Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:51 PM (DUoqb) ====================== It was that bitch Samantha Powers who theorized the US would send in troops to protect palis from Israel. I think I am going to puke. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 02:55 PM (iQIUe) 335
The PLO flag is raised on the UN today
The Russians bomb our "Allies" in Syria and then tell us to bugger off We keep talking to the Russians We keep decimating our Military The PLO walks away from all agreements with Israel Our Gov is clueless And that's the good news for today Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:56 PM (DUoqb) 336
Meanwhile, Ted Kennedy famously went to Moscow and offered to help
undermine Reagan's foreign policy as a way of advancing his worthless ass by selling out America. /spit Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:30 PM He sent former senator, John Tunney to do his dirty work. Posted by: huerfano at September 30, 2015 02:42 PM (O2jYw) Thanks for the clarification! Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 30, 2015 02:57 PM (oKE6c) 337
323 Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared before world leaders Wednesday that he is no longer bound by agreements signed with Israel and called on the United Nations to provide international protection for Palestinians, in the most serious warning yet that he might walk away from engagement with the Jewish state.
Someone should put a bullet thru his head Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 30, 2015 02:51 PM (DUoqb) ----------------------- Looks like the WH has made another secret deal. Posted by: Soona at September 30, 2015 02:58 PM (Fmupd) 338
*peeks back in*
Alas Adriane, the book is built around imagery. See-sawing between shrinking the image sizes now and stop the writing. Or keep writing, save often, and hope nothing crashes until I finish. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 02:59 PM (C/DS0) 339
I doubt any of the vodka people buy here actually comes from Russia. The company may be Russian, but the Vodka isn't shipped over from there.
And western leftists think Communism is genius, its just bad people were in charge. If THEY were in charge, it would all work because they are smart enough, good enough, enlightened enough, and gosh darn it, people like them. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 03:00 PM (39g3+) 340
The US buys rocket engines from Russia.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2015 03:00 PM (C/DS0) 341
What's weird is how many commies who after spending years in gulags still will defend those aholes.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 03:02 PM (iQIUe) 342
Some one shd do a study on commies in America. They all seem rather rich and not very charitable unless to a commie front.
One thing the Rosenbergs would never have done is go live in their commie paradise until they were trying to escape arrest. Everyone knew it was a dump. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 30, 2015 03:07 PM (iQIUe) 343
Some one shd do a study on commies in America. They all seem rather rich and not very charitable unless to a commie front.
Its like all the Sanders supporters: not big on charity, white, upper class, drive hybrids, live in big nice homes. For them its all theoretical, and any bad side is either a lie or happens to other people. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 03:11 PM (39g3+) 344
It's a very good thing for NYC Leaders that Conservatives are not the type of people they claim us to be, else there would be a lot of "Left-leaning" politicians (Quislings) hanging in gibbets for the sport of the crows...
Posted by: setnaffa at September 30, 2015 03:12 PM (BtRXi) 345
Well, the Rosenbergs may been nasty commies, but they sure knew how to shop for furniture. They got a smokin' deal on a chair.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2015 03:14 PM (0yhH4) 346
When I was born, there was a wall up in Berlin. It was torn down not many years later.
My generation does not fully grasp what that means. They do not truly understand the vast divide that wall represented. They cannot comprehend the evil that existed on the East side of that wall. They do not understand that evil still exists. Side note: I was not around when there were missiles pointed at us from Cuba. You know who was? The current leadership of Cuba. I don't think it's something we should have forgiven just yet... Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at September 30, 2015 03:16 PM (78OXS) 347
@268
Speaking of bridges, Spielberg's next movie, Bridge of Spies looks like it's going to have the Russians and the Russian spies as the sympathetic characters. While the CIA and the mean old Americans are just...mean and don't understand that being an American means selling out to the Russians. God, I hope that movie tanks. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2015 03:19 PM (mD3Pa) 348
Interesting photos of east Germany during commie and after.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/7wg6vjf Link to an old story at Der Spiegel Posted by: Willy J. at September 30, 2015 03:25 PM (GfSPN) 349
Prior to handing down the death sentence, the judge in the Rosenberg case gave a great speech. He blamed them for the 50,000 deaths in the Korean War, which was ongoing at the time. He was right.
Posted by: Mike at September 30, 2015 03:26 PM (ISxUB) 350
May be next Sunday book tread should be about KGB espionage in US. I would recommend memoirs by Pavel Sudoplatov "Special Tasks".
Posted by: redmonkey at September 30, 2015 03:27 PM (2R6mJ) 351
Speaking of bridges, Spielberg's next movie, Bridge of Spies looks like it's going to have the Russians and the Russian spies as the sympathetic characters.
The really confusing thing is that the main character is named Bill Donovan... the name of the man who was the head of the CIA at the time (OSS then). Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 30, 2015 03:27 PM (39g3+) 352
Here's what the judge said before pronouncing sentence.
"I consider your crime worse than murder... I believe your conduct in putting into the hands of the Russians the A-Bomb years before our best scientists predicted Russia would perfect the bomb has already caused, in my opinion, the Communist aggression in Korea, with the resultant casualties exceeding 50,000 and who knows but that millions more of innocent people may pay the price of your treason. Indeed, by your betrayal you undoubtedly have altered the course of history to the disadvantage of our country. No one can say that we do not live in a constant state of tension. We have evidence of your treachery all around us every day for the civilian defense activities throughout the nation are aimed at preparing us for an atom bomb attack." Posted by: Mike at September 30, 2015 03:30 PM (ISxUB) 353
So we need to take this crowd and convict them of being traitors too. Friend of my enemy ...
Posted by: torabora at September 30, 2015 03:42 PM (nNiY+) 354
Someone needs to ask Hillary to comment on this story.
Madam Clinton do you appreciate the honor bestowed by a NYC council to a great advocate of the worker , Ethel Rosenberg? Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 30, 2015 04:23 PM (Z9mio) 355
I saw a Maserati bearing the vanity plate "CCCP" today.
I can only hope he was being super-ironic. Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 30, 2015 04:28 PM (k8tEg) 356
I'd give them an award for being good commies. the dead kind.
Posted by: x at September 30, 2015 04:37 PM (57fhp) 357
This must be a fucking joke.
Oh and... "Lynd says they were guilty but that their actions were justified because they helped 'preserve the peace of the world.'" That presupposes that the US was going to go out, unprovoked, and start a war with a damn nuke. I'd like some evidence that that had ever happened. Hint: there is none. Pro tip: Always first question an opponent's starting premise. Posted by: dogfish at September 30, 2015 05:30 PM (0O2Lr) 358
My Dad (an Air Force sergeant) was one of the military personnel brought into Los Alamos in 1952 to take over part of the job previously done by David Greenglass. After Verona went public, he told us the Atomic Energy Commission had given each officer and noncom (and their wives) a briefing after they were assigned there, explaining the basics of nuclear energy, radiation safety, and what had happened with the Rosenburgs. They used it as a cautionary tale on what to watch for to prevent another such breach of security. Everyone at Los Alamos knew what had occurred and there was not the slightest bit of controversy there or at Sandia Base about the Rosenbergs' guilt.
Posted by: The Black Republican at September 30, 2015 06:48 PM (fTZhC) 359
For a neato mosquito perspective on the Russian Worker's Paradise check out, "Coming Out of the Ice," by Victor Herman.
Posted by: Marooned Maroon at September 30, 2015 08:25 PM (9uejt) Posted by: Beverly at October 01, 2015 12:21 AM (ue7qE) 361
New York City. Or as I call it, Commieville, USA.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 01, 2015 01:30 AM (Bbcs8) 362
Who next? Benedict Arnold, for heroism at Saratoga?
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