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Public Trust in Media At All Time Low; Independents' Trust In Media Falls to Level of Republicans' Trust in Media
Well, a statistical tie, anyway -- 33% of Independents say they have trust in the media, compared to 32% of Republicans.
The Washington Post's haplessly biased Chris Cilzza blames this on "partisans" sabotaging trust in the media. I agree. Media partisans like Chris Cilizza are indeed the problem.But, I believe really strongly that the decline in trust in the media is primarily attributable to partisans -- whether in politics or in the media -- who have a vested interest in casting the press as hopelessly biased. What better way for liberal or conservative talk radio to (a) lure listeners and (b) stoke outrage than to insist that the mainstream media is lying to you? What better way for politicians to raise money from partisans already skeptical about the media than to say the media isn’t telling the truth?Several points here. 1, I think it's creepy that the forces of corporate-political conformity are so insistent that we trust them. Why do you, complete strangers to me, think it is necessary for our national health for me to trust you, as a group? I don't trust lawyers as a group -- specific lawyers, yes. But as a group? No. And I'm not singling out lawyers either -- I don't trust doctors as a group, nor teachers as a group, nor mechanics as a group. This idea that we must all be on the same page and believe the same things is not only a central pillar of collectivist thought -- it is absolutely necessary to the furtherance of the collectivist agenda that we all "agree" to trust a single narrative. A single narrative explains to us (falsely, through mythology) what is Wicked in our society and how to go about Appeasing the Gods who will otherwise visit terrors upon us. A plethora of competing narratives -- of arguments over first causes and political creation myths -- keeps the Clerisy, or the Cathedral as the Nrx crowd calls it, from leading the bewitched populace on their numerous crusades. So I find Cilizza's starting premise that everyone agreeing that the media is non-partisan to be one of the most important partisan desiderata of the political left. 2, this is of course whining and special pleading from people who can't do their jobs very well but what to keep telling us how harrrrrrd it is in hopes we'll grade them on the curve. Well, we already are grading you on the curve -- we've priced in most of your partisanship and incompetency -- and you're still failing. Here's an idea for Cilizza and the rest of the would-be high priests of collectivist advance to ponder -- hey, maybe if you did your jobs better, and more competently, and less dishonestly, people would trust you more, and then you could stop whining at the rest of us that you're not held in the high social estimation to which you believe yourselves entitled. Incidentally, Cillizza writes for the same Washington Post that published that ludicrously partisan piece calling Carly Fiorina a liar for having claimed to have been a secretary. She was a secretary. No lie. Simple fact. Let me tell you what this is really about. Here, I'll whisper it: The abortion partisans of the media are angry at here for mainstreaming the Planned Parenthood videos are determined to get a scalp for that. Thus, the intense pro-abortion SJW partisans of the media go into Political Attack mode. But we're not supposed to notice. We're just supposed to Trust them, for some reason. Because they went to college, I guess.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2015 03:28 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2015 03:28 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2015 03:29 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2015 03:29 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:30 PM (AkOaV)
Why on Earth should we trust them?
Posted by: JEM at September 29, 2015 03:30 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:31 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:31 PM (M1uf/)
It's the same thing with global warming. 'Trust' the scientists. 'Trust' the politicians. Trust the charlatans.
Pass.
Posted by: Lea at September 29, 2015 03:31 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 03:32 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:32 PM (jJRIy)
Asking lots of questions about personal health care (not health care policy) and financial security. Also a few about the economy in general.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 29, 2015 03:32 PM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 03:33 PM (FsuaD)
The second episode of "Blindspot" is what is Wicked in our society.
So much promise squandered, and no more excuses to show the girl's tushie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 29, 2015 03:33 PM (JtwS4)
Fvcking Ewoks.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:32 PM (jJRIy)
Types...
...deletes....
types...
thrusting fucking ewoks, man, what can you say I guess?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:33 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Yo! at September 29, 2015 03:33 PM (GwIKd)
Exactly.
Actually, I think the MFM would be trusted more if two things happened.
1) More (unapologetic) Conservatives got into the media game. And I don't mean as commentators, but as "serious" news folks. Don't pretend to be anything but a Conservative reporting from a Conservative viewpoint- but do "hard" reporting.
2) The current MFM just comes out and admits, "Yes, we're all Progressives, and we support the progressive agenda."
Because then a) I know I can get "balance" by balancing my news intake between Progressive and Conservative sources (should I so choose) and b) I know how to "unskew" the reported news- which direction it is being spun.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:34 PM (M1uf/)
"As in any news organization, there were editorial and story challenges. But over time, I was able to successfully navigate the challenges, for seventeen years.
There was a sudden and insurmountable change however when the Scott Pelley era began. Many of us inside CBS would speak to the irony that a broadcast network eager to develop a reputation for investigative reporting was in fact moving further from both.
Pelley and his executive producer Shevlin showered compliments on my work. I got the seal of approval from the lawyers. It was set to air, but then it never did. Pelley just wanted to put his own style on work and spit it his way. Prior anchors like Dan Rather, Bob Scheiffer and Katie Couric had big picture ideas, but they never attempted to rewrite my script, but Pelley did.
He subjected my script to endless changes and revisions. He softened the facts and made the story convoluted and hard to follow. The revision process never ended. Was he scared of going after powerful enemies? He did not say. All I know is that the report which had been so effusively complimented by him never aired. They rarely said the story would not air. They just let it sit around and loved it until it began to stink like old fish.
A number of us sharing the same observations and experiences engaged in countless conversations speculating as to why the Pelley-Shevelin regime was so hostile to original and investigative reporting.
The universe of what they desired narrowed to a paper thin slice that was inversely proportional to the expanding universe of what was censored or deemed undesirable -- including an overtly visceral reaction to any stories which they perceived as negative toward the Obama administration.
The Pelley Administration was the death knell of original investigative journalism at CBS."
Posted by: Dancing Queen at September 29, 2015 03:34 PM (nJvB1)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:34 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: SH at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:33 PM
Forget it, he's on a roll....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (KrAjA)
They didn't.
So why would I trust them at all? Who knows what else they aren't telling me?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (PFy0L)
I only hurt you because I love you, baby doll.
Now get down on your pretty little knees and take me into your mouth again like you always do, baby.
Posted by: The Media at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: michelle yo ho lo at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (Aw1ge)
Posted by: SH at September 29, 2015 03:35 PM (gmeXX)
In the case of the media, it's a worldview murderously hostile to mine.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2015 03:36 PM (2Ojst)
Bullshit.
What we get are two extreme views that are often both total BS. How the hell is one supposed to extrapolate the truth from two lies.
Fox's idea of fair and balanced is like the professional wrestling - it's newsish entertainment.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 03:36 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Bigby's Atomic Elbow at September 29, 2015 03:36 PM (3ZtZW)
Why didn't any media, except for Investors Business Daily dig up info on current WH occupant?
The 2008 Special Series is still up, ot was a month ago.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (sj3Ax)
Pass.
They're the ones propped up as so-called "experts." Much of the time, these people really don't know any more about a subject than the average Moron, yet they're the ones the "textperts" put on the pedestal for the rest of us to marvel at.
The day I realized that those people weren't any smarter than I was, and in many cases, not anywhere near as smart as I was, was the day I was free from the bullshit propaganda.
Not that my life was any better, mind you.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (LUgeY)
And of course there was Stone Phillips reporting on those (Ford?) Trucks that supposedly explode when t-boned (affter NBC added a lit flare to the gas tank).
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (6n332)
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Have you stepped inside the No Spin Zone?
Posted by: SH at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (gmeXX)
Exactly. Those abstinent Ewoks can't be trusted as far as you can throw a rancor.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:34 PM (jJRIy)
But do you you thrust them too?
Or do you only thrust the fucking Ewoks, but trust the non-fucking ewoks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (AkOaV)
Here's a recent example I noted during the Ahmed the Clockmaker crap. Typically media was just spouting some stupid assumption or smack talking the police, city, and school decisions. Actual news was when local radios interviewed the Mayor of Irving.
Posted by: dogfish at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (JtwS4)
I was actually startled that Don Trump put up with his _60 Minutes_ "interview" by Pelley.
Pelley rudely interrupted Trump more times than Joe Biden rudely interrupted Paul Ryan at the 2012 VP debate, which is saying something.
And, many of Pelley's interjections were premised on total bullshit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (noWW6)
Funny how the internet fucked things up for them. (MSM)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (J3phO)
Thanks, journo school profs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (FsuaD)
Yes, partisanship is a problem, Chris.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (OGm46)
25-30%?
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Roy at September 29, 2015 03:39 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2015 03:39 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: SH at September 29, 2015 03:37 PM (gmeXX)
Yes, and Bill was spinning faster than the spin cycle on my washing machine.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 03:39 PM (BZAd3)
i.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (ucDmr)
Bullshit.
What we get are two extreme views that are often both total BS. How the hell is one supposed to extrapolate the truth from two lies.
Fox's idea of fair and balanced is like the professional wrestling - it's newsish entertainment.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 03:36 PM (BZAd3)
If any news outlet claims to be unbiased, that is a sure sign that it has a bias.
The trick is to tease out of its various pronouncements exactly what that bias is, and how strong a bias it is.
Fox News, for instance, is biased towards the GOPe position for the most part. This was not always obvious, until the schism between the establishment GOP and the grass roots became too large for anybody to ignore any more.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: Hillary! at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (sj3Ax)
Cillizza is likely shocked to find his thin cover is blown and that people know he is a partisan.
Which makes me laugh.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (ODxAs)
And I think more and more people see it.
The biggest "tell" of course is how dozens of supposedly independent media sources all report the exact same stories in the exact say way.
There's no way that happens without sharing a deep ideological connection and without some kind of coordination.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (AkOaV)
And I'm not singling out lawyers either -- I don't trust doctors as a group, nor teachers as a group, nor mechanics as a group.
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The only group of ANYTHING I trust is dogs.
Even the ones that want to kill me - at least they are honest about it.
Posted by: Chi at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (0i3w2)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (ix9wt)
You don't simply "trust" them to not steal your wallet.
(Or even not to have a hidden wang for that matter)
Posted by: wooga at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (Qws/8)
Its important that you trust all of us commenters here, Ace.
As a group, I mean.
Posted by: Bigby's Atomic Elbow at September 29, 2015 03:36 PM (3ZtZW)
I don't trust that dead guy Buzzion. That's all I got.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (noWW6)
them, allowed Hitler to gain the power possible to allow the Holocaust to happen. Hitler was able to gain the trust of the German people in a time of chaos in Germany."
Trust and Fear: The Tools of Genocide For Hitler and the Holocaust
http://tinyurl.com/p879czq
Posted by: Mortimer at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (0dcbp)
Can't stop the signal, Mal.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (iIzG7)
Then he was totes the best!!!
Posted by: Bruce at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Baraka O at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Brian Williams at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (jJRIy)
Maddog. Don't forget maddog.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (d2g9U)
Posted by: All I need is a Miracle at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (ZtFr+)
Ah, you're correct. My bad.
Still, they are both d-bags. On this point I think we can all agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (OGm46)
I don't watch TV news or read newspapers. I don't trust those people to enter my home or my head. Why would I surround myself with those who seek my marginalization? Why would I let them in my house?
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Hadoop at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (2X7pN)
Posted by: Baraka O at September 29, 2015 03:41 PM (Fmupd)
We know.
Posted by: The Chicken, the Couch, and the Toaster at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (/j9PE)
I agree that they are pandering, but I also think that entertainment is at least as much, probably more, of a consideration in their presentations than is the actual news.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Hillary! at September 29, 2015 03:40 PM (mcm0N)
Vat as in the tax, or as in the big black iron cauldron of double, double, toil and trouble?
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Yo! at September 29, 2015 03:43 PM (GwIKd)
Don't you realize just how boring the news would be if they just reported the facts?
We want to be entertained! Are you not entertained?
Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (FETr8)
Posted by: Thrusting Ewoks at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (M1uf/)
What? Did Maddog also die? It must be the water.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (FsuaD)
And I'm not singling out lawyers either -- I don't trust doctors as a group, nor teachers as a group, nor mechanics as a group.
Don't trust scientists as a group either. A liberal acquaintance of mine does, citing their views as Holy Writ wrt AGW, inter alia. I tell him if he knew 1% of what I know about scientists, he wouldn't have that faith. Many, perhaps most, scientists are honest and above-board, but there's a non-negligible percentage who won't steal a hot stove.
In short, they're just like everyone else.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Bigby's Atomic Elbow at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (3ZtZW)
The next president--especially if he's a Republican, is going to get an anal probe on steroids each and every day....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (ix9wt)
Probably still too big. And those would have to be lies and distortions that were later proven to be demonstrably false.
Gee, I wonder where the distrust comes from/sarc.
Really, who are the partisans, and what's to be done (don't answer that one aloud)
Posted by: OneEyedJack, who is laughing as he's typing at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:42 PM (M1uf/)
What? Did Maddog also die? It must be the water.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (jJRIy)
No, he's alive. You just can't trust any links he posts. Or wrg500's links.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (jJRIy)
That, or he posted one two many pics for the 'Ettes...
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (oKE6c)
Here's my problem there. cable news and the 24/7 news cycle SHOULD be driven entirely by ratings.
But they aren't. Because CNN and MSNBC have almost no viewers, and even Fox only pulls in 2-3 million for the primest primetime shows.
And most news papers are failing.
And yet ... I don't know. I fell like I have a thought here, but it's not fully formed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Hillary! at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (mcm0N)
http://goo.gl/fERSMd
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 29, 2015 03:46 PM (iQIUe)
Yeah! Effing partisans! Where do they get off attacking our credibility?
Posted by: Walter Duranty at September 29, 2015 03:46 PM (oKE6c)
Where a women refusing to violate her religious beliefs, the federal Constitution, and her State Constitution is a crime against humanity, but cutting open a baby's skull to harvest his brain is a-ok.
F***THE MEDIA.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:46 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: Bruce at September 29, 2015 03:46 PM (8ikIW)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (iONHu)
Huh. I forgot that Beth Van Dyne was kinda hot.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (M1uf/)
I believe Faux became pure GOPe in 2011 & I stopped watching.
There have been times when worldwide news was happening live, riots in Egypt when Arab Spring started & I put Faux on & it was Bill O rerun.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (sj3Ax)
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As an example of this keep in mind that just about everything the media told us about the cold war, during the cold war, we know for a fact was a lie.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (5LOno)
Pelley rudely interrupted Trump more times than Joe Biden rudely interrupted Paul Ryan at the 2012 VP debate, which is saying something.
And, many of Pelley's interjections were premised on total bullshit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2015 03:38 PM (noWW6)
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I watched it and actually thought Trump came off well -- leaning forward, open, friendly, eager to talk while Pelley was leaning back in his chair, arms crossed, rude, smug.
Another example of "our betters" lying to us was that during the interview when Trump was giving his convoluted explanation of making insurance more affordable for everyone by allowing purchase across state lines while providing the poor with 100% subsidies, Pelley interjected with "Universal Healthcare" --which isn't what Trump was saying at all. Yet ALL the news channels, blogs and pundits headlined the next day "Trump endorses Universal Healthcare."
Pelley's words became Trump's -- that's how narratives get set.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at September 29, 2015 03:48 PM (nJvB1)
Recently they went to Armenia and spoke out against the Turkish Muslim slaughter of the Armenian people that the US and UN governments still to this day refuse to admit happened. (And, of course, it's, shall we said -- a highly sensitive topic to our NATO ally turkey too).
So the Kardashians were using their ...assets... to be helpful for once.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2015 03:48 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 29, 2015 03:48 PM (oKE6c)
Instead, they take "people trust the media" as a given and use that premise to justify to themselves their practices of dishonesty, lying and partisanship. And when people naturally respond to these practices by realizing the media is not trustworthy, the media professionals blame us for not fulfilling our civic duty as Americans to trust them.
Posted by: stuiec at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (eetvJ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (jJRIy)
And I think more and more people see it.
The biggest "tell" of course is how dozens of supposedly independent media sources all report the exact same stories in the exact say way.
There's no way that happens without sharing a deep ideological connection and without some kind of coordination
The Progressive/communist/socialist organ Media Matters for America seems to be the go-to source for the MFM's talking points. IIRC, the anti-Christ George Soros funds them and many other so-called media outlets.
He pays them and gets to tell them what to write. Which is nothing but radical, leftist propaganda spoon fed to us as though it's the gospel from on high.
Did I mention that he considers the US to be the world's biggest danger?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (LUgeY)
Huh. I forgot that Beth Van Dyne was kinda hot.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (M1uf/)
Noticed that too, didja? The story rather annoying repeats the debunked assertion that this was a "home-made" clock, or something Clockmehd created. He just took apart a digital alarm clock and put it in a case.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (2Ojst)
Conservatives and Libertarians: A-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
Posted by: exdem13 at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (FsuaD)
She's back with CBS now
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:47 PM (sj3Ax)
The percentage of my news content I get from television is now asymptotically approaching zero.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: Lauren at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (ZJI/r)
***
...and during Operation Linebacker, when we were level bombing NV, they were seriously considering ending the war...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (sj3Ax)
PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls 4hr
Trump's 26% in NC and 53/36 fav actually a little better than 24% and 47/40 he had in mid-August
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: wth at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (SEFXb)
As noted by an astute poster, the largest bias in the media is in them getting to choose what we're even allowed to see.
Think of the multitude of stories that don't make the cut as "news" because it doesn't fit the editorial template.
Then when, or if, alt news covers that story and it gets traction, the MSM will jump in with their spin to minimize or deflect damage.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, who is laughing as he's typing at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: brak at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (xwPSp)
Another memo to Cilizza: start by reporting the race of perpetrators of
crimes. By airbrushing out that trivial detail ("be on the lookout for a
man wearing a t-shirt and jeans") unless the perp is white, you
make it obvious that you're playing an advocacy, rather than reporting,
role.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 29, 2015 03:48 PM (oKE6c)
While flying all over the place last week I got to thinking about the 100's of billions of dollars Mohammedans cost us in security checks.
Why not just tell the towel heads they can't fly and let the rest of go on with our business?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:51 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (sj3Ax)
Yes, it has. I don't remember details, but I distinctly recall seeing . . . er . . . .somewhere . . . that it's been resurrected in a somewhat more stealthy form.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:52 PM (/j9PE)
He just took one out of its case
Posted by: Yo! at September 29, 2015 03:52 PM (GwIKd)
That's the thing. This shit avoids addressing any specific charges, and instead makes a hypothetical ad hominem, hypothetical arm chair psychologizing about "vested interests" in order to "prove" that the other side is wrong, because they might have bad motivations.
But of course that is bullshit. You need to address specific cases, like Ace brings up about Carly. And as for hypothetical psychologizing ad hominems, that can be used against anyone. And I suspect every time it would be used against the left, it would be true. They need to be called out on that. They need to be given a taste of their own medicine, like iowahawk starting the Harry Reid pedo meme in response to his doing the same crap about Romney.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 29, 2015 03:52 PM (E5UB0)
Walter Duranty looking the other way while Stalin starved the Kulaks.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2015 03:52 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Lauren at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (ZJI/r)
Trust no one. But the Truth Is Out There.
Posted by: Agent Mulder at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (/j9PE)
Well they used to compete. Hard.
Kind of like British newspapers.
In America there is this dangerous myth that "what is printed in these newspapers is factual. See, all newspaper agree, therefor it must be true."
If all of your papers print different stories and tell the same stories "differently" its pretty obvious that everyone has a bias.
It's when they pretend (and people believe) there is no bias that you get easily led idiots following propaganda.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (AkOaV)
I don't trust anyone.
Posted by: Lauren at September 29, 2015 03:49 PM (ZJI/r)
So that "just the tip" line isn't going to work?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (sj3Ax)
He think that he and most of his media colleagues just do "honest" work "following the facts" and so can't understand how anyone can find fault with that or call it partisan or dishonest.
Another great example of lefty hacks from the Post is Dana Milbank.
Posted by: gwelf at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (TJ8HB)
Someone asked earlier how Europe repelled invaders in the past. Well they set about slaughtering invaders every way and anyway they could. But it started with a word from a King or an Emperor. Or a Pope.
But there is no one of such stature that is willing to open their mouth and give the word.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2015 03:53 PM (ix9wt)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at September 29, 2015 03:54 PM (q20+R)
I knew you were a moron. Nice blog you have.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, who is laughing as he's typing at September 29, 2015 03:54 PM (kKHcp)
And yet ... I don't know. I fell like I have a thought here, but it's not fully formed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
This is where much of the problem is, I think, and that is that every freaking news reader on every freaking news program, nationally and locally, is an expert on everything. Does anybody realize how easy it is to get a liberal arts degree?
These people are journalists and they can't even do that right, yet they are going to offer up expert commentary to me on shit they could not even begin to comprehend? They read the news, for crying out loud. Look at the famed expert on everything under the sun - Shep Smith. This freaking guy...
This freaking guy is going to give expert commentary to me on hurricanes?
Then you have the Dan Rather's, and the Brian Williams' and the Tom Brokaw's, not to mention ole' tingly legs.
They're all a bunch of clowns and people can see clowns at the circus.
Nah
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 03:54 PM (BZAd3)
Fine, I'll give you my trust. But I get to pick where I'm throwing from.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (lJJaE)
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You have to crack a few eggs to make a salsa.
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Journo List at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:52 PM (/j9PE)
Oh, it's been posted about on a few webpages -- apparently they just use a private Google Hangouts now.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (AkOaV)
The most important detail gets left out of a story and we're supposed to take them seriously? Fuck em, it's all agenda all the time anymore.
Posted by: se pa moron at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (C/DS0)
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 03:55 PM (/j9PE)
I find the media nowadays *more* loathsome than lawyers (with the exception of lawyers who are also politicians; they're the worst).
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2015 03:56 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 03:50 PM (sj3Ax)
JournOlist. The second one started to be exposed and shut down, I have no doubt there is now a third, fourth or more.
They can't help themselves. They're as upright and straightforward and crack whores and con men always are.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 29, 2015 03:56 PM (bLnSU)
And most news papers are failing.
And yet ... I don't know. I fell like I have a thought here, but it's not fully formed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
You were almost there. By your numbers, you can see when the media is critical of those in power they get better ratings, but it still seems if most Americans don't really care.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 29, 2015 03:56 PM (t06LC)
This idea that we must all be on the same page and believe the same things is not only a central pillar of collectivist thought -- it is absolutely necessary to the furtherance of the collectivist agenda that we all "agree" to trust a single narrative.
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This is an issue I feel like I have been fighting my entire life. I don't trust 'experts' on anything. I pay a mechanic to tell me what is wrong with my car, and I will decide if I want to fix it. I pay a doctor to tell me my stats, and I will decide what I will do with the information.
This idea that we need to follow the guidance of 'experts' and blindly follow orders is maddening, and leading many to a sheep-like existence.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 29, 2015 03:56 PM (oEDuY)
It wasn't until after his death that it became obvious that Cronkite was totally in the tank for the left. Back in the days of 3 network news, he was considered The Truth.
Video killed the radio star and the internet killed the msm.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2015 03:56 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Thrusting Ewoks at September 29, 2015 03:44 PM (pMGkg)
No shit.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: gwelf at September 29, 2015 03:57 PM (nyxv/)
Brian Williams
Dan Rather.
I'll go you one better:
Journolist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 03:57 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Skip at September 29, 2015 03:57 PM (WcAm2)
Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (wAQA5)
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Modern liberalism works from a narrative delivered by the leadership. Indeed, liberals can't work without a centralized resource to tell them what to think. For most liberals that is the State Media...but the State Media has to have some way to get its marching orders as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (5LOno)
It's such a cliche at this point.
Posted by: gwelf at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (iQIUe)
I think of this scene in the Disney version of "The Jungle Book" with Kaa and Mowgli and the song Kaa sings:
Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
You can sleep safe and sound
Knowing I am around
Slip into silent slumber
Sail on a silver mist
Slowly and surely your senses
Will cease to resist
Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ILPl5FQaM
Creepy journalists who entire job is to simply relate the happenings of the day impartially while writing or communicating at a 5th Grade Level-
and yet they fail each and every day, miserably and dishonorably, at that simple task.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 29, 2015 03:59 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Rachel Madcow at September 29, 2015 03:59 PM (awspb)
After the suicide truck bomb took out the Marine barracks in Lebanon (we) Reagan threw his hands in the air and said, more or less, effit we're outa here, and I agreed with that sentiment.
I knew back in the mid sixties when LBJ said we had to go to south vietnam to keep the world safe for democracy, I knew it was a lie then. But the president called, and I went. Ten years later the democrats refused arms and money to the south and all those men who went to South Vietnam and died there were wasted.
When Bush the Elder rounded up a coalition to drive Saddam out of Kuwait, I worried. And then the news media showed the slaughter along the 'highway of death', and we stopped the killing. Then there were words about an insurrection being mounted against Saddam that the US would support, and didn't. I actually met a kid who was one of those rebels who though the US was going to help. He's in the US driving a truck, last I heard.
Bush the W. . . ya well, I didn't like that movie much. The movie, not the actual events. The movie is never an accurate representation of real events, unlike Walter Cronkite's TV series "You Are There".
What's the point? We can't win a war when half the people in the country are on the other side.
Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 29, 2015 03:59 PM (FETr8)
Posted by: David at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (P0njn)
Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (iynDC)
And the media never ever politicizes a shooting even as it's happening.
Posted by: gwelf at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: Hillary! at September 29, 2015 04:01 PM (mcm0N)
Fvcking Ewoks.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 03:32 PM (jJRIy)
Remember how jumble headed ewoks get when big breasted Alaskans come on the scene.
I'll trust them with a few qualifiers.
Posted by: jwest at September 29, 2015 04:01 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (ucDmr)
LOL
We have seen them throw squirrel after squirrel at us - yes, and actual "scandal" over Rubio drinking water during a televised speech - while we know there is real news, stuff we experience every day, that goes unreported.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: David at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (P0njn)
The depressing answer is yes, many of them do.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (/j9PE)
Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (wAQA5)
That can be taken many ways.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Smug bastard shark at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: gwelf at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: NY Times Editors at September 29, 2015 04:03 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Stalin, Trotsky and Lenin in Hell at September 29, 2015 04:03 PM (6gR7l)
I actually know someone that has a poster of Rachel hanging up on their office door. Its just fkn embarrassing.
Posted by: Bigby's Atomic Elbow at September 29, 2015 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: David at September 29, 2015 04:00 PM (P0njn)
The depressing answer is yes, many of them do.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2015 04:02 PM (/j9PE)
Well we have to separate out the 'thought leaders' from the idiots in the movement.
The thought leaders of course know the media is full of shit, they bitch too.
The idiots, well -- they're the marks. No, they don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 29, 2015 04:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bigby's Atomic Elbow at September 29, 2015 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Let me guess. Fat dyke in HR?
Posted by: NY Times Editors at September 29, 2015 04:04 PM (jJRIy)
And I'm not singling out lawyers either -- I don't trust doctors as a group, nor teachers as a group, nor mechanics as a group.
You can trust mathematicians, Ace. Everything we say has to come with a proof.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 29, 2015 04:04 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: gwelf
That's because we had to get that bats hit crazy snowbilly. Her whole family is weird.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, fapping in Sarah Palin's garbage can at September 29, 2015 04:04 PM (awspb)
Brian Williams
Dan Rather.
I'll go you one better:
Journolist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
Jayson Blair
Fareed Zakaria
Mike Barnicle
Doris Kearns Goodwin
etc.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2015 04:04 PM (W5DcG)
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The top 10 cat GIFs that prove the media is non-partisan and honest. #10 WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
Posted by: Buzzfeed at September 29, 2015 04:04 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at September 29, 2015 04:05 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: irright at September 29, 2015 04:05 PM (zxnPQ)
Maybe you should reconsider your mission of "Comfort the afflicted, afflict the comfortable."
Sounds a bit activist, no? You're supposed to report the news, not make it.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2015 04:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anonymous fact-checker at September 29, 2015 04:05 PM (6gR7l)
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Hey guys, the door to my shack is always open to reporters wanting to hear my story.
Guys?
Guys?
Posted by: Obama's poor brother in Kenya at September 29, 2015 04:06 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:06 PM (jJRIy)
We're being told everything except what we actually need to know in order to govern ourselves.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 04:06 PM (LUgeY)
How can I trust you when you admit some of your numbers are imaginary?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 29, 2015 04:07 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 04:08 PM (FsuaD)
Yeah whoopi, I don't think slaves, either black or white, are paid that well. At least my family in Egypt wasn't
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:08 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (xWW96)
How can I trust you when you admit some of your numbers are imaginary?
And others are irrational.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13
Some are also irrational.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (awspb)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (awspb)
Posted by: Caliban at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Ahmeds Atomic Algebra clock at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (3mTyP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:08 PM (DUoqb)
My response: "No. You get paid. Want to see the difference? You're fired. Now you won't get paid."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 04:06 PM (LUgeY)
You said a mouthful there. That is so true, their belief in their isolated, dislocated perceptions is comical. Sad, but comical.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 04:09 PM (BZAd3)
Who were the members?
RNC may change future nominating process- Iowa and NH might not be first.Would this be another change to keep out insurgents like Cruz, Trump and any others GOPe don't want. Yeb! all the way, any way they can get him.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:10 PM (sj3Ax)
Hmmmmph.
For me, it was during the Iran-Contra hearings in 1988. I taped the hearings on my VCR during the day (while at work), and watched them at night (fast forward through the dull parts, which was most of it). And then I would watch parts of the Evening News (with Dan Rather!!!), and began to notice the striking difference with what my lying eyes saw during the actual hearings, and what Danny boy would say on the Nightly Propaganda half-hour.
Ollie North was no hero, but on the other hand, they were trying to crucify him and made up all kinds of stuff that was flat out false, to keep up the propaganda drum beat.
It was like I knew it for a while before this, but this really pounded it home.
And Dan Rather still has some stupid gig called "The Big Interview" on some cable channel, allowing him to still be a professional liar.
Peggy Noonan called Dan Rather "king baby" as a humorous aside in her book "What I Saw at the Revolution" about her days as a Reagan speech writer in the White House. She knew him slightly from her days working for a CBS affiliate in the late '70's. She was pilloried for this by some journalist hack.
Dan Rather should be roasting in Hell.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 29, 2015 04:10 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 04:10 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 29, 2015 04:10 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:11 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (UzPAd)
It's hilarious that a blog where the commenters routinely throw around vulgarities has asterisks in a word routinely used by 13% of America.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (kKHcp)
Nicely done, sir.
Posted by: George Tirebiter at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (/zyrl)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2015 03:58 PM (5LOno)
It's worse than that, they're dedicated to eliminating everything but the narrative. It's the Lakoff strategy - rephrase everything to fit your narrative, *your* politics are moral and thus unquestionable and automatically anyone who opposes you is immoral, and facts are just tools to serve the narrative (roughly speaking).
Zombie covers Lakoff here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/92yqcjw
It's basically a strategy designed to shut down all communication and lock true believers in place. It's also why it seems so impossible to have a conversation "across lines" now - if someone follows it, it is impossible to get any points across.
It's almost literally a "nah nah nah I'm not listening" strategy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (bLnSU)
I thought I saw something on Twitter last night about a podcast with Bobby Jindal for today?
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:11 PM (sj3Ax)
It's being taped at my local 7-11. Want a Slurpee?
Posted by: Hair Plugs Joe Biden at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (jJRIy)
Jonah Goldberg's wife cowrote Carly's last book.
Has this been disclosed?
Posted by: prescient11 at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (q5APL)
Nonsense; I wouldn't say I'm all knowing or all seeing-just perfect in every way. Haven't you noticed.? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (cgZPg)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (kKHcp)
Well Copy and Paste and all, and fuck ya never know who ya might offend?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (EIFYf)
"We're just supposed to Trust them, for some reason."
Of course we are.
You see, The Press are Our Betters, have the Constitutionally-given Right to Pontificate Upon All Matters Political, Economic, Moral, Legislative and Judicial, and also have The Unobstructed and Unobstructable Right to Sell Their Rags and Screeds, and Have Them Read and Accepted (so they stay employed).
Posted by: Arbalest at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (FlRtG)
I would listen to them during my commute, and then turn on the evening news only to see that they glommed onto one or two statements that completely mischaracterized what was discussed. Or for things like SCOTUS hearings, the replay the one grandstanding question by some Lefty Senator like Ted Kennedy and then not show the reasoned responses by the person being questioned.
It was a quickie lesson on how news ins "made" and by made, I mean how the narrative is cooked up.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2015 04:14 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:15 PM (jJRIy)
If I were the producer, that meeting would rescheduled to the 32nd of Nevember after that outburst.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 29, 2015 04:15 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
There actually is a solution.
Get Congress to make cable providers "unbundle" the cable channels, and then you only pay for what you actually want. McCain has actually been trying to do this for several years. It could actually happen.
See CNN implode.
See MSNBC implode.
And much, much more.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 29, 2015 04:15 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2015 04:15 PM (rjtGa)
As for your last thread, you need to take a course on economics. Reagan turned tax cuts and smaller government into the longest period of peacetime prosperity our country has ever known. Oh and the longest period of job growth. It was the clowns after him, including Clinton and both Republican and Democrat congresses that killed it.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2015 04:15 PM (l/pfE)
But of course? PAR
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:16 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Nip Sip
Either that means the invasion is on, or they're calling the Fuhrer a homo.
Posted by: German codebreaker at September 29, 2015 04:16 PM (awspb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 04:16 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: prescient11 at September 29, 2015 04:12 PM (q5APL)
I'm sure there are those at Trump HQ glad you're on the job.
Posted by: troyriser at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (fnCax)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:13 PM (DUoqb)
I wasn't really banging you for it, just found it funny. In an insidious way. That almost all the old language taboo's have been swept away, only to be replaced by new ones.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Chris "Constitutional Scholar" Cuomo at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (f+6Pd)
A typical newscast starts with tragedies, the take-aways of which are how awesome the police and fire departments are. Toward the middle is Sports. After they get through all the truly local stuff like high school football games, it becomes an unfiltered public relations medium for private organizations such as Major League Baseball and the NCAA.
Newspapers are no better.
A study (20-30 years ago) showed that between a third and half of the "news" of big-city newspapers is press releases, copied verbatim from their sources.
Of course people don't trust journalists. The best, hardest-working reporters are essentially storytellers who are good at all the stuff Joseph Campbell described. The rest are simply lazy who type little more than Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V for their paychecks. And people know this.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (vh4aS)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:08 PM (DUoqb)
I had a black neighbor in Texas - nice enough guy generally, but he could get really extreme about racial stuff. He would just go off sometimes on reparations and the like.
I used pretty much that same argument on him about how my ancestors's experiences were every bit as much a part of my life as his ancestors' experiences were a part of his.
He said that it was different, that it was a long time ago, as if over a 100 years is not a long time.
We were neighbors, not friends.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (BZAd3)
Are you going to run for president w/Deval Patrick as VP. He's no good. He's like the current WH occupant but same BS, campaign managers, speeches, slogans.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (sj3Ax)
typo or term? binging didn't help
Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2015 03:39 PM (DL2i+)
Neoreactionaries.
http://www.hestiasociety.org/site/library-of-nrx/the-neoreactionary-canon/
Posted by: despair at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: bjk at September 29, 2015 04:18 PM (x2rNW)
" Me shaking my head" Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:18 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Buck O'Fama at September 29, 2015 04:18 PM (WjUTD)
funny. In an insidious way. That almost all the old language taboo's
have been swept away, only to be replaced by new ones.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:17 PM (kKHcp)
Right on that. The NAACP? Try to call a brother "colored"
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:18 PM (jJRIy)
The chair is against the wall.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (iynDC)
Lots of finger pointing going on.
Saudis are blaming the stampede on "African hajj participants".
Iranians are seeing J00s behind every piece of furniture.
No one noticing that the stampede happened in the same portion of the hajj that has had this problem before,"stoning the demons".
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (Nwg0u)
This guy Carrey must be a real sweet heart?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (DUoqb)
Yesterday, it was Soledad O'Brien for being bitchy to someone else on Twitter for commenting on parenthood while having no children of her own. She closed her tweet with a dismissive "ciao".
In both cases I jumped on them for their sneering condescension, which is something we see WAY too much of from our "betters" in the media.
Fuck the lot of them.
Posted by: ericinva at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (ChGIS)
Posted by: Ahmeds Atomic Algebra clock
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My clit is so large I need to get an operation to get it removed. It also has a urethra growing through it. Gross.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 29, 2015 04:19 PM (E5UB0)
AmishDude gives this post 4.5 ejaculations
Posted by: Soothie at September 29, 2015 04:20 PM (H9gvv)
That is *not* news, and I didn't need to see it on local news broadcasts in the morning and night as well as on Fox. Self-absorbed media, much?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2015 04:20 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 04:20 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2015 04:21 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2015 04:21 PM (rjtGa)
forces suggested Monday that the deadly Mecca crane collapse and hajj
stampede were orchestrated by Israel and Saudi Arabia.
But of course? PAR
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:16 PM (DUoqb)
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There is no end to what those Joos can doo. Did not know that they were crafty enough to rope Saudi Arabia into their wily schemes tho. Nice touch.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 29, 2015 04:21 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Moochie, how you like these hips bitches at September 29, 2015 04:22 PM (jJRIy)
Fuckin idiots
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:22 PM (DUoqb)
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Pay no attention to the pseudoscientist behind the curtain.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2015 04:22 PM (Nwg0u)
Just about every issue regarding his ability to govern was guffawed or written off as legend. Meanwhile most of it has been proven by time and his own actions as true.
If the media believes independents are going to bend over for them again, they need to think again.
But keep crying No fair. We're enjoying it.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2015 04:23 PM (l/pfE)
Posted by: Moochie, how you like these hips bitches at September 29, 2015 04:23 PM (jJRIy)
It's like when people complain about Fox being biased. I say, imagine Fox being supported by taxpayer dollars and you'll know how the rest of us feel about NPR and PBS.
Posted by: CJ at September 29, 2015 04:24 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 29, 2015 04:24 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2015 04:25 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: maddogg at September 29, 2015 04:25 PM (xWW96)
Mossad pigeons. They landed on the crane & flapped until it fell over.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 04:26 PM (iynDC)
Ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer. It is the Gleichschaltung baby!
Posted by: Dem Operatives with Bylines at September 29, 2015 04:26 PM (Q8y6V)
Remember the pic of her with a sad face holding the #BringBackOurGirls sign?
Waiting for one of her holding a sign saying #ForGod'sSakeBarackGetTheAfghansToStopRapingLittleBoys
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 29, 2015 04:26 PM (FsuaD)
At any rate, by their actions, not ours, they've reduced their credibility. GelMann is way in the rear view by now.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:26 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Colin at September 29, 2015 04:27 PM (Espnc)
We're familiar with it.
Posted by: The Irish at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (7rAXc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (cgZPg)
Posted by: ericinva at 04:19 PM
________
I did that once. A guy was tweeting about something or other and said So-and-So has remained silent on the issue.
As this guy sometimes writes columns for the Washington Post, I asked if he tried reaching the person to get a comment.
He blocked me.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (vh4aS)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Colin
The only reason dead-tree newspapers are still in business is because it's too expensive to line a birdcage or potty-train a puppy with old iPads.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 29, 2015 04:29 PM (awspb)
Except for perhaps Fox news, who will paint their Republican of choice in a good light, and everyone else in a bad light.
Real people don't seem to know that this happening, and expect the media to be "unbiased."
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at September 29, 2015 04:30 PM (Zy+ZM)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (vh4aS)
What an engaging man.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 29, 2015 04:30 PM (kKHcp)
1) We admitted we were powerless over the spectre of partisanship -- that our lives had become unmanageable.
2) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God (not Barack Obama) as we understood Him.
4) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5) Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6) Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7) Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.9) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10) Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
11) Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to partisans, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Posted by: President Barack "Unexpectedly" Obama at September 29, 2015 04:31 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2015 04:31 PM (SEFXb)
Posted by: CJ
But PBS and NPR are moderate middle of the road organizations.
Posted by: lefferson at September 29, 2015 04:31 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 29, 2015 04:31 PM (FETr8)
There are no journalists in those subsets.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 29, 2015 04:32 PM (7rAXc)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:32 PM (sj3Ax)
But keep crying No fair. We're enjoying it.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2015 04:23 PM (l/pfE)
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I would say the leftists got all they needed out of the stupid independents. They elected Baraka twice. The damage is done. They don't need the perpetual wafflers anymore. They're laughing their asses off about them.
Posted by: Baraka O at September 29, 2015 04:32 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Atlas at September 29, 2015 04:33 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (sj3Ax)
What it says, and it is pretty much spot on as far as I am concerned...Is that with Iran getting the bomb, all the other Arab Nations in the area will also want one...thus nuclear proliferation...thus making it easier for ISIS to beg borrow or steal one....And of course that is true...And is another reason why Fredo's irresponsible exit from the Middle East will be disastrous
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:33 PM (DUoqb)
The only reason dead-tree newspapers are still in business is because it's too expensive to line a birdcage or potty-train a puppy with old iPads.
Heh. Funny you should mention that. The only reason I buy the paper is to use it when we eat crab legs.
The. Only. Reason.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 29, 2015 04:33 PM (LUgeY)
I had a black neighbor in Texas - nice enough guy generally, but he
could get really extreme about racial stuff. He would just go off
sometimes on reparations and the like.
We're familiar with it.
Posted by: The Irish at September 29, 2015 04:28 PM (7rAXc)
Maybe he should read this and get on his knees and thank God he is in America.
Out of America. A Black guys take on Africa. http://tinyurl.com/qb4at4l
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:33 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2015 04:33 PM (Fmupd)
There are no journalists in those subsets.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 29, 2015 04:32 PM (7rAXc)
Where do you draw the line on rank with Medical Officers and Manpower Officers?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:34 PM (DUoqb)
Enough.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:34 PM (jJRIy)
Siren Sounds in Ashdod Area
Breaking news: siren goes off in coastal city. Two rockets reported fired at city, one intercepted.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:35 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:36 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: lefferson at September 29, 2015 04:31 PM (W5DcG)
PBS-the network that managed to do an hour-long special on the draconian state of North Korea without once mentioning the word "Communist." (Seriously, I searched the transcript.)
Posted by: CJ at September 29, 2015 04:38 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:36 PM (sj3Ax)
Everyone is... They all can see which way the wind is blowing
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2015 04:38 PM (DUoqb)
Double. Dog. Dare.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 29, 2015 04:39 PM (9krrF)
Here's link that Iraq turned to Putin.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:40 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 29, 2015 04:40 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:36 PM (sj3Ax)
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Everyone but Eastern Europe is asking Putin for help now. The U.S. has been degraded to "just another country" now.
Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2015 04:41 PM (Fmupd)
I wrote yesterday that Putin would win.
Posted by: Carol at September 29, 2015 04:44 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: mojo at September 29, 2015 05:23 PM (OmBeX)
Posted by: mojo at September 29, 2015 05:23 PM (OmBeX)
- Francisco D'Anconia
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 29, 2015 05:49 PM (S0bOl)
Posted by: Cliff at September 29, 2015 05:51 PM (lT4P/)
You throw the word "collectivist" around like a complete retard
Unlike you, an "actual" retard.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 29, 2015 06:11 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: newsucanuz at September 29, 2015 06:16 PM (VO2L8)
Before I went to college I worked weekend and holiday evenings as a busboy at a local restaurant. Between college semesters for the whole time until I graduated I worked construction, for a while as assistant drywaller, then as an entry level carpenter, and for a while at the end as a site supervisor. But once I graduated, I got real work in the career I've been in for 30 years, which has zero to do with busing tables or passing tools to builders or overseeing day laborers.
The picture Fiorina's been portray is that she started work at HP as a secretary and worked her way up the corporate ladder to eventually become CEO. That's total bullshit. She was a secretary like I was a busboy or construction worker, not as an entry level job but something to do to earn money BEFORE her career. AFTER she was a secretary, she went to college and got an MBA, and then she started in on the career paper chase. She eventually got RECRUITED into HP management as minority (as a woman) hire, and HP had consciously deliberately sought her out AS a CEO.
Ace knows this, of course, so he's lying to you, morons. What's amazing is that Ace doesn't even have the guts to point out that the criticism of the WaPo piece by Cilizza was written by fucking Howard fuckface Kurtz, the nation's biggest and most clownish failure in media criticism.
Just saying, morons: Ace is a fracking liar, and he lies to you because it's what he's paid to do.
Posted by: Wax the Jungle Hog at September 29, 2015 06:17 PM (lqeGC)
I agree. Media partisans like Chris Cilizza are indeed the problem."
Hoisting and petard come to mind. Well done.
Posted by: Doom at September 30, 2015 03:23 AM (7RdIv)
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