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RNC Vice Chair: McConnell Must Resign
Before getting to that, read Ben Domenech's indictment of McConnell, and McConnellism.
Domenench notes that McConnell could have broken the Democrats' filibuster of a Defense appropriation bill this past June -- but that would have required McConnell and his aged hens to actually work for a living, including working weekends. McConnell could have both broken the filibuster and then campaigned hard against the Democrats for blocking payments to our troops-- if he'd been willing to sacrifice some weekend Me-Time.Had he done that, the most critical parts of government would have been funded, so a shutdown would tend to shutdown the parts of the government that primarily service liberals -- not as dangerous a thing for the GOP. Which is why the Democrats didn't want the troops funded -- they want to keep doing this by CR, because they know the cowardly, lazy McConnell won't tangle with them when it comes to the power of the purse. McConnell might prefer that situation himself -- as it gives this well-compensated layabout a constant excuse as to why he should not work a bit harder. Now RNC Vice Chair Richard Villiere writes on his FaceBook page that it's time for this low-energy clock-puncher to go.
Instead, McConnell did what Democrats expected him to do. He griped about it, moved on, and looked to a continuing resolution. He extracted no price at all from Reid and his caucus for shutting down the budget process. There was no pain or penalty for Democrats for killing the appropriations process. That, after all, would have required working weekends. The truth is that the budget process, in the absence of earmarks, is extremely inconvenient for members. Republican leadership was not serious about restoring it -- requiring them to rake members over coals for weeks on end and degrade the quality of life of being in the Senate. McConnell would be viewed as a giant a-hole, sure --– but this is what it takes. Eventually, Democrats would have broken, and the appropriations process would have proceeded. So today, instead of looking at a looming shutdown, it would be at most a couple of departments at risk of losing funding. Senate Republican leaders have allowed the obstruction of the budget process (Congress's core reason for, you know, existing). They chose personal convenience over the hard work of breaking the Democrats. And they conceded themselves to the view that President Obama has the power of the purse, and Republicans should be satisfied running against his abuse of it.
"McConnell needs to resign!!" Louisiana GOP Chairman Roger Villere wrote in a Facebook posting. Mr. Villere isn't just any Republican. He’s the longest-serving state GOP chairman in the nation, with 12 years on the job, and is the vice chairman of the Republican National Committee, the GOP’s national governing body. He also serves on the RNC’s executive committee that makes decisions alongside Chairman Reince Priebus.Many of us already have. It's useful to consider what the main goal of an employee of a company is. No, it's not to advance the company's agenda. That is a secondary or subsidiary goal. The main goal is to continue drawing a paycheck, in fact, to be paid more if possible, and to do do so while doing the least amount of work. Now that does entail occasionally doing something that might advance the company's goals. The reason we have managers at all is to change the incentives that employees naturally have -- to let them know that mere time-serving and check-collecting is not good enough, and that the company demands actual effective effort in exchange for their continuing patronage of the employee. Mitch McConnell and the rest of the gang of Merry Layabouts are firmly thinking about what is easiest for them -- what takes the least amount of work, what will result in the greatest amount of security. They don't want to rock the boat because, egads!, that could wind up with them needing to find a real job out in the private sector where people actually demand results. So they go along to get along. The only thing capable of changing this is for management -- us -- to ride their asses hard and to let them know their jobs aren't even on the line any longer -- their jobs are already forfeit, unless they can win them back. But before we even entertain coming back to serve as managers for this lazy, selfish collection of loser employees, we need Mitch McConnell, the Laziest Low-Energy Slob in the Senate, to go.
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Mr. Villere did say what specifically about Mr. McConnell makes his state's rank-and-file GOP voters so dyspeptic that they want him out as leader -- his failure to challenge executive overreach by President Obama or fight to repeal Obamacare and other unpopular measures. ...
"If we lose the battle, we will never win the presidency again in my lifetime," said Mr. Villere, who is 66. "I've worked for 12 years as chairman to build this party, and I just don't want to see it all go down the drain because they aren’t willing to fight for what we believe in. Our base is demanding we do something or they're going to leave us."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:07 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 28, 2015 04:07 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:08 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: El Jeb! now with more !!! at September 28, 2015 04:09 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: major major major major at September 28, 2015 04:09 PM (Xir/S)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 28, 2015 04:09 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: GBruno at September 28, 2015 04:10 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: eman at September 28, 2015 04:10 PM (mR7Es)
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Bwahahahaha
OK oughtn't laugh.
*snicker*
Posted by: Bigby's Handiwipes at September 28, 2015 04:10 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:10 PM (yddCj)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 28, 2015 04:10 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: blaster at September 28, 2015 04:11 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: The Wit and Wisdom Of Leader McConnell, vol. 2 at September 28, 2015 04:11 PM (8ZskC)
#3 Forget it Jake! It's Turtletown.
Posted by: Beorn at September 28, 2015 04:11 PM (dGF4J)
"Thing I can't stand is my smelly fingers!" **sniffs at fingers**
???
Posted by: Bigby's Handiwipes at September 28, 2015 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: The Wit and Wisdom Of Leader McConnell, vol. 2 at September 28, 2015 04:12 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: brak at September 28, 2015 04:12 PM (xwPSp)
Posted by: ahmed the clock-sucker at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (Aw1ge)
Posted by: eman at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (mR7Es)
It doesn't matter, we get hosed either way.
Posted by: GBruno at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (u49WF)
Jeff Sessions or Ted Cruz, but Cruz is busy running for preezy.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: The Wit and Wisdom Of Leader McConnell, vol. 2 at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Bigby's Handiwipes at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 04:13 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: buzzion at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Bob Corker, teh hardest working man in Worshington at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Wendy at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (bpemY)
Posted by: eman at September 28, 2015 04:14 PM (mR7Es)
Failure Theater don't play well with shareholders.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: El Jeb at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (22uju)
Posted by: The Wit and Wisdom Of Leader McConnell, vol. 2 at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (8ZskC)
I saw them open for the Lazy Bastards Summer Fest 2002
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (yddCj)
Posted by: GBruno at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (u49WF)
They don't want to rock the boat because, egads!, that could wind up with them needing to find a real job out in the private sector where people actually demand results.
Dood, I could have told you that.....
Posted by: Dr. Ray Stantz at September 28, 2015 04:16 PM (UBLhq)
- Your GOPelite
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 28, 2015 04:16 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 04:16 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: The Wit and Wisdom Of Leader McConnell, vol. 2 at September 28, 2015 04:16 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: eureka! at September 28, 2015 04:17 PM (g1MTt)
Posted by: eman at September 28, 2015 04:17 PM (mR7Es)
GOPers use every trick in the book...to further the dem agenda.
Posted by: Lauren at September 28, 2015 04:17 PM (ZJI/r)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 28, 2015 04:17 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: GBruno at September 28, 2015 04:15 PM (u49WF)
Oh the Senate GOPe has some "leaders" in waiting. However, you don't want me to name them as they are in the turtle mode.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:17 PM (yddCj)
It's the law of nature.
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (3tjn4)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (39g3+)
If they got rid of McConnell, who would replace him? It might be turtles all the way down.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:08 PM (8ZskC)
Yes, but pour encourager les autres.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: joe at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (KUaJL)
Or do they already have some newer BOHIC models to fill in where Boehner and McConnell left off?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Hairy Reed at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (8ZskC)
Put a shitload of 70 year olds in a room together and they'll change the channel on the telly to Matlock and be squabbling about oatmeal within a week.
It's the law of nature.
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 04:18 PM (3tjn4)
And telling you about their bowel movements. In detail.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: El Jeb! now with more !!! at September 28, 2015 04:09 PM (hKyl0)
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I agree. And I'll tell you who needs all that work and punches to the face, err, getting government working.
Posted by: Harry Reid at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Mitch Slap at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (q4hvt)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (39g3+)
Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (2iV3X)
Posted by: Bigby's Handiwipes at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:19 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: tbodie at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (Oqufv)
Posted by: Alison Grimes at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: GBruno at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: Lady in Black.....sigh at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (gwQvF)
Does anyone actually think this is going to result in something actually
impactful? They'll go on to get cushy jobs on K street, the next GOPe
shill goes into their seat and nothing's going to change.
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Get someone to submit Glenn Reynold's revolving door tax. Now.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (X7E8f)
As the base, it is far better to be feared by the GOPe than loved or respected. Actually I would prefer they loathed us, as long as they are scared shitless of us.
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (xWW96)
*sigh*
No one listens to good advice....
Posted by: Zombie Nicky Machiavelli at September 28, 2015 04:21 PM (UBLhq)
So if the Congress is not doing budgets...what exactly ARE they doing?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 28, 2015 04:21 PM (659DL)
Posted by: The GOPe at September 28, 2015 04:21 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2015 04:22 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Hillary sitting on my $47 million campaign fund! at September 28, 2015 04:22 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:22 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Bigby's Handiwipes at September 28, 2015 04:22 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (3WiLo)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (xWW96)
If I had an office, a chair, a remote control, a paddle game and a hot secretary, that's all I'd need.
Posted by: Navin Johnson at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (8ZskC)
The guy with his tongue up Ted Kennedy's rectum? That Trent Lott?
Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (2iV3X)
True, they will never have to worry about where their next paycheck will come from.
BUT, this does send a message - do what you were elected to do or GTFO.
McConnell is next. Question is do the other Senate RINOs (every one who calls themselves a republican btw) have the stones to kick him to the curb?
These are baby steps - but they are necessary. Is it going to be painful? Could we lose an election or 3 over it? YEP. But keeping these clowns in office is painful too. So lets have some fun with it. The much maligned conservatives in both houses smell blood in the water.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Zombie Alf Landon at September 28, 2015 04:23 PM (D0NZx)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 28, 2015 04:21 PM (659DL)
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Well there's the drinking and the whoring and the general graft. A guy like Harry Reid doesn't go from broke small town lawyer to multi-millionaire by passing budgets, you know?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:24 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Weep in Victory at the Outrage Outlet! at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (hLRSq)
Fire McConnell, then trim around the edges. Make sure that in the future, we're reliant on finding the right people to populate the senate seats who will do the right thing for wholesome and generous reasons - with total disregard of their own circumstances.
Next, we can repeal those pesky laws of gravity.
Or, just for shits and giggles, we could try something fundamentally different that would reorganize the basics to fall inside the lines of known human nature.
We could make it attractive for people who have the proven capacity to determine the source and use of billions of dollars to run for an obtrusive office that would disrupt their personal lives.
We could made it beneficial to the individual who is elected to work for the benefit of the taxpayer, finding excess, working within a tight budget, getting things done on a hard timetable.
We could change the way elections are funded so that challengers could still seek support from the public or billionaires, but office holders are prohibited by criminal law from soliciting or accepting a dime.
We could make the perks and status of the elected office such that the best people would be attracted to the race.
But if we did all that, we wouldn't be so fucking stupid, and we are very comfortable being stupid.
So, let's do nothing.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (WcAm2)
That's BARON Harry Reid, peasant.
Posted by: Hairy Reed at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dang at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (2oWD2)
Republicans shrugging their shoulders and going home at 5pm.
Remember the Senate shennanigans on JugEarsCare? Fucking GOPe rolled over because they didn't want to work through Christmas.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:26 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:25 PM (OGm46)
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I hate it when politicians "get something done". 99% of the time, getting something done = more spending and/or less freedom.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:26 PM (0LHZx)
Two words: re call. Make these jackals work for us for a change.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:26 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:27 PM (oDCMR)
^^^^
I left with the most recent amnesty push (eff you Marco, you lying, backstabbing traitor. Eff. You.).
It would take a hell of an overhaul of the patty apparatus to get me back on the bandwagon.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (KkVB6)
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (3tjn4)
And here we have the answer: Yes, Kentucky is indeed infected with leprosy -- and its name is Mitch McConnell.
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (jBuUi)
Bitch gotta go.
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (WcAm2)
Then you should be thrilled, McConnell hasn't gotten shit done.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (OGm46)
Dems do this ALL THE TIME. The succeed BECAUSE they do this. 20 years ago gay marriage was a joke. Now its the law of the land. And it wasn't because the Dems gave up and shut up.
McConnell feels that's too partisan. And frankly, too hard. But that didn't stop them from running on it, huh?
Posted by: Saltydonnie at September 28, 2015 04:29 PM (i6shs)
It seems in such instances that proper application of tar and feathers seemed to get the point across appropriately.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:29 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: tbodie at September 28, 2015 04:20 PM (Oqufv
Coryn
Thune
Cochran (Not our BC)
McCain
Graham
Need I say more?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:29 PM (yddCj)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:29 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:29 PM (jBuUi)
But they still have to pay a tax.
Posted by: Justice Roberts at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (3WiLo)
In the US a senator earns $195K or something like that. And we have a corrupt and highly inefficient govt with every senator looking to score a dollar while in office and planning on how to make money once out of office.
Pay a senator $1M a year and I think a lot of that goes away.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:28 PM (jBuUi)
Well, it seems his balls fell off...
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (t06LC)
Did you hear Tammy Faye Boehner's bullshit about his "first duty was to the institution" of congress when he resigned on Friday?
Hey dipshit, you're first duty is to the Constitution and freedom, not your fucking cocktail parties or reaching across the aisle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (tlGKl)
All individuals currently holding any position in Federal goverment--appointed, elected, hired, it makes no difference--is hereby removed from that position. Neither they, nor any other individual who has held any position in Federal government, is allowed to hold any position in Federal government ever again.
Will this hose some good people? No doubt.
Is it now necessary to simply start over from scratch and lock out the corrupt imbeciles that helped make this mess for all time?
Yes, I believe it is.
It's not a miracle cure, I'm sure. But it is a first step.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:31 PM (oDCMR)
lazy, selfish collection of loser employees, we need Mitch McConnell,
the Laziest Low-Energy Slob in the Senate, to go."
I also enjoyed Me-Time and Layabout.
I believe it was McConnell who complained about missing Christmas over some part of Obamacare.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:31 PM (4ErVI)
I'll get it, sir.
Posted by: Marcie at September 28, 2015 04:31 PM (Aw1ge)
That's what happens to people who spend too much time in government. They forget who their allegiance is to.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:32 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 04:32 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:33 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (0LHZx)
Uhh...No. Giving corrupt people more money would not make the stop being corrupt.
The answer lies in Milton Friedman's quote: The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:33 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015"
You're past due for an appointment.
Posted by: Nip Slip's Eye Doctor at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (OD2ni)
Term limits and a law against insider trading that applies to congressmen
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (6XM9o)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (Ii765)
Second step is to make sure they abide by the laws they pass.
How in the hell are we tolerating that?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:35 PM (LUgeY)
PASS A FUCKING BUDGET YOU CHUPACABRA BALLDRIPPINGS ARRRRGGHHHH
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 28, 2015 04:35 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:36 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 04:36 PM (3WiLo)
Well, it seems his balls fell off...
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (t06LC
Maybe Dr. Rand Paul can help him with that.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:36 PM (+c55T)
But his first three or four albums are fucking great."
Look Sharp is one of my favorite albums of all time.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (OD2ni)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (OGm46)
In the US a senator earns $195K or something like that. And we have a corrupt and highly inefficient govt with every senator looking to score a dollar while in office and planning on how to make money once out of office.
Pay a senator $1M a year and I think a lot of that goes away.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:30 PM (0LHZx)
Being rich is only one part of not becoming corrupt.
The other parts are honor, decency and dignity.
Posted by: Aristotle at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (ZYzIQ)
The second goal of any given organization is to enlarge the organization.
The third goal of any given organization is to accomplish whatever supposed tasks the organization was chartered to accomplish.
There are rare exceptions, but they are notable only for their rarity.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Killerdog at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (bEKuF)
Moo moo in Venezuela the dictator and his cronies get all the m I new and it does not stop corruption
Term limits and a law against insider trading that applies to congressmen
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (6XM9o)
There are term limits here and I'm not sure they're working. One guy was term limited out and just ran again four years later and went right back in. He's the sole black in the Unicameral so there is some of that we'll vote for him forever stuff, but they've gotten awfully comfy lately down there passing all sorts of crap like outlawing the death penalty are really unpopular.
Oh and good job to you on the Ahmed thing. You were the first person calling bullshit on that from the beginning that I saw online.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (4ErVI)
He was so damned good up until 1984 or so...
He has an excuse now: schtupping Diana Krall.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (LUgeY)
Let the States establish pay/benefit packages for their Reps.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:33 PM (CR+Uv)
I don't know. I prefer Voltaire's idea. From time to time hang an admiral - it keeps the rest in line.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (t06LC)
1 Dianne Feinstein 82 years old Democratic
2 Chuck Grassley 82 years old Republican
3 Orrin Hatch 81 years old Republican
4 Richard Shelby 81 years old Republican
5 Jim Inhofe 80 years old Republican
6 Pat Roberts 79 years old Republican
7 Barbara Mikulski 79 years old Democratic
8 John McCain 79 years old Republican
9 Thad Cochran 77 years old Republican
10 Harry Reid 75 years old Democratic
11 Patrick Leahy 75 years old Democratic
12 Lamar Alexander 75 years old Republican
13 Barbara Boxer 74 years old Democratic
14 Bernie Sanders 74 years old Independent[1]
15 Mitch McConnell 73 years old Republican
Time for Carousel!
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (jBuUi)
Got some bridges and dams back in Kantuck' with his name on them, so, there's that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (LA7Cm)
"Our base is demanding we do something or they're going to leave us."
Ace - "Many of us already have."
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (JOG+K)
If the deep fryer isn't properly cleaned, everyone who eats will get the shits. That means nothing will get done anywhere. You need it cleaned and you need it cleaned right every time.
Who do you trust?
How about the bored millionaire who wants to "give back"? Sure, he'll clean the sucker when the cameras are on, but he's going to get bored doing that too. When he feels no one is watching, he'll do a half-assed job.
Give the job to the ill-paid guy who had to apply for the job just to feed his family? Sure, he'll clean it. And when he doesn't, you can yell at him. The only trouble is that he knows he'll make the same shitty wages whether he does it good or bad.
Would it be possible to hire someone at a better wage, then give him an incentive to do a great job every time? How about a bonus equal to his salary if he goes the entire year without a fault, hitting his schedule on time, every time and always in budget?
Nah, that would be too easy.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (OGm46)
In Singapore people get executed for corruption. That may play a role.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (8ZskC)
Or is he in pain or ill? Are you not feeling well?
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (6XM9o)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
Posted by: JackStraw
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You are going to die. Tough break dude.
Can I have your stuff?
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (3WiLo)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
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He wants to go for a walk. He smells something interesting in the air. Any bitches in heat?
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (oDCMR)
The other parts are honor, decency and dignity.
Posted by: Aristotle at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (ZYzIQ)
Example A: Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (t06LC)
I am pretty sure Rubio checks more of the right boxes compared to a Trump or Fiorina. I just don't think he'd risk anything to advance or win any new ground. He is firmly in the "this is not the hill to die on camp". So to what end does it matter? It actually has to be in service to something. It's never going to be favorable ground with this media, is it? So now we have quite the dilemma, don't we?
Posted by: Dave S. at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (mhkbv)
Rush said a Republican wrote that the base is leaving them & McConnell has to go.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (sj3Ax)
In Singapore the PM earns $1.7M a year and congress critters earn $1M a year. And they also have a very non-corrupt, efficient government.
*snort*
That just means that the crooks are more disciplined that the US, and are able to cover their tracks better.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:39 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (jBuUi)
Lets keep them away from this year's flu shot.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:40 PM (+c55T)
Can I have your stuff?
Sorry, I left it all to the dog.
Uh oh.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:40 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:40 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (6XM9o)
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (3WiLo)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (6XM9o)
Want to give a speech as 'President', 'Senator', etc. and pay royalties. Steep royalties.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:42 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:42 PM (LUgeY)
Apart from Inhofe there's not a name on that list that amounts to a small pile of cowpies.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:42 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (NOIQH)
Sack I'm flattered, but there were lots of others too
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (6XM9o)
There was but you made sure to keep it going.
And Carol got banned? wtf is going on around here? Buzzion died and then willow got banned.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (UlJ3l)
Apart from Inhofe there's not a name on that list that amounts to a small pile of cowpies.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:42 PM (LA7Cm
I would fertilize my lily beds with them.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (+c55T)
Witch doctors, chicken guts, knuckle bones.
Usual Monday afternoon shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (mBYZv)
"97 So is his hot Chinese wife going to start dating out on him?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015"
You're past due for an appointment.
Posted by: Nip Slip's Eye Doctor at September 28, 2015 04:34 PM (OD2ni)
LOL!! She use to be hot as shit. Had all sorts of guys after her, Boden Gray asked her to marry him and she turned him down.
Maybe she know famous Asian tricks?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (jJRIy)
Carol unbanned? How the hell did you do that?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:41 PM (+c55T)
Carol Unbanned 2: The Caroling.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:44 PM (4ErVI)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
He, too, concurs that McConnell must go.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:44 PM (LUgeY)
He was so damned good up until 1984 or so...
I have a theory about musicians, that they only have so many good songs in them, then they are just awful. For like 10 years straight, Bob Seger could do no wrong, then nothing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2015 04:44 PM (39g3+)
Carol unbanned? How the hell did you do that?
Witch doctors, chicken guts, knuckle bones.
Usual Monday afternoon shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (mBYZv)
I heard hot pics sent to pixy?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:44 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (jJRIy)
Getting really white laundry?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:45 PM (8ZskC)
Carol and willow wound up with banned isp's by accident.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:45 PM (mBYZv)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
Posted by: JackStraw
Don't worry unless he tells you to kill someone.
Posted by: David Berkowitz at September 28, 2015 04:45 PM (W5DcG)
There are term limits here and I'm not sure they're working. One guy was term limited out and just ran again four years later and went right back in.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (4ErVI)
The LA city council is notorious for getting around term limits by playing round-robin with their district seats. When they term out, they trade districts by renting new apartments to list as their official residence. Resets the term limits clock.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:45 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 28, 2015 04:46 PM (67teE)
How in the hell are we tolerating that?
Because standing.
Honestly, I'm about ready to say the courts need the Aegean stables treatment first and foremost at this stage.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:46 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 04:45 PM (8ZskC)
Stop it you are killing me. LOL.
Off to drink with the gang, BBL
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:46 PM (jJRIy)
I don't know what you guys think of Betsy McCaughey (Lt Gov under Pataki, the lady who has gone through the ENTIRE ObamaCare bill, and knows EVERYTHING about it), but I consider her to be a reliable authority.
She just said, on FBN (yeah, I know) that she was allowed to see Trump's healthcare plan, and she said, essentially, that IT HAS ALL THE FREE-MARKET STUFF THAT IS NEEDED in there. Basically, it was an unqualified vote of approval!
Posted by: Optimizer at September 28, 2015 04:46 PM (/q6+P)
Carol unbanned? How the hell did you do that?
Witch doctors, chicken guts, knuckle bones.
Usual Monday afternoon shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:43 PM (mBYZv)
I heard hot pics sent to pixy?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:44 PM (jJRIy
Well, that won't help me unless Pixy is a Pixy.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:47 PM (+c55T)
The answer lies in Milton Friedman's quote: The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:33 PM (CR+Uv)
________
Worked in Singapore. They had a problem with corruption. They decided the way around it was make it less of an incentive. The other half of it is severe punishment if someone is convicted of corruption, like many, many years if prison not some bullshit fine and 6 months in club fed.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:47 PM (0LHZx)
He chose not to be a pop star and wanders through genres doing what interests him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 04:47 PM (JtwS4)
they cash out, head to the bank, buy a small island, & disappear.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Lizzy
This. Times 1000.
Also, having spent too much time around a few, some of them think they are way too smart to not be in charge.
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (3WiLo)
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (7GJvw)
She's for the best serve of any woman he's ever played ping pong with.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (tlGKl)
Whoah.
Did she have a big ol' binder w/a ton of post-its hanging out of it, or is Trump's plan under 3000 pages?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (NOIQH)
More later.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:49 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Yertle at September 28, 2015 04:49 PM (NeFrd)
Worked in Singapore. They had a problem with corruption. They decided the way around it was make it less of an incentive. The other half of it is severe punishment if someone is convicted of corruption, like many, many years if prison not some bullshit fine and 6 months in club fed.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:47 PM (0LHZx
They also have a hell of a legal system, caning, etc.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:49 PM (+c55T)
Wait --- what was that second part?
Posted by: Chuck Todd at September 28, 2015 04:49 PM (NOIQH)
Well. You are wrong.
He has sucked hard since Trust.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 04:48 PM (jJRIy
Ahhh a future Lifetime Movie
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (+c55T)
Here's a weird thought: conservatives would have been better served if Puffy Face Ashley Judd would have ran and beat him.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (ODxAs)
They need to tie it to the person via DNA, not residency.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (mBYZv)
Not to put too fine a point on it but he's saying he's been a part of the problem.
Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (2/WhT)
Mr. Trump has triggered an ugly, extremist, partisan element that is taking over my party and ensuring future electoral defeat.
I'm a lifelong, loyal Republican, but I am thinking of leaving the party.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (Ui7Rt)
__________
The only way around this would be lessen the time spent in DC by making congress stay in session only a few weeks at a time. No need to move to DC permanently when you only need to physically be there for 2-3 weeks 3 or 4 times a year.
But if you did that, then everyone would whine that politicians have too much time off and how dare they get all that vacation?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:51 PM (0LHZx)
I want the mechanics who worked on the airplane to take the next ride in it, like they used to.
I'm old skool that way.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:51 PM (LUgeY)
maybe parts of the GOPe are catching on, but i'm not getting my hopes up just yet...
deeds, not words, bitches. replacing Boner or Miss Lindsey with the next feckless RINO in line isn't change, it's maskirovka.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 28, 2015 04:52 PM (vQvKz)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:52 PM (LA7Cm)
Otherwise we're supposed to STFU and be good little voters and back Marco Rubio or whoever these folks happen to support.
Posted by: Y-not at September 28, 2015 04:52 PM (0Iy+I)
Posted by: mallfly at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (jBuUi)
Well hell zombie! The youngest one on your list is 25 years older than me and I'm almost completely shotout. No wonder the gang of freaking dinosaurs never do anything. Taking Geritol through a freaking salt lick is all they're good for.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (X+nFp)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (9krrF)
They need to tie it to the person via DNA, not residency.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (mBYZv)
What needs to be tied to the person is a lamppost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (UBLhq)
It's like anything else, you want to attract top people, you have to pay them.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (0LHZx)
He has sucked hard since Trust.
I saw him open for the Police down here in '08.
No, really!
I was less than impressed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:53 PM (LUgeY)
Three months every other year. Like Texas does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:54 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:54 PM (9krrF)
Not me, no sir. Less time they are in session the more I like it. Go back home, stay there, it'll be fine.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:54 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: brak at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (xwPSp)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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Ugh, Handel and Bach were brilliant up until their deaths. Bach died in the middle of writing the Art of Fugue.
I'm convinced that musicians could well write brilliant stuff all their lives, but modern musicians are a bunch of shallow retarded idiots who run out of catchy jingles whose proper use would be cat litter commercials, so yes, modern musicians run dry of stupid jingles, and be cause they are so shallow that's all they have.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (E5UB0)
Uh, no. He was popular in the whiny '70s, and he spent years whinging about how tough life as a coked-up, deadbeat rockstar was (Night Moos, Turd the Page, etc). He should have been kicked out and mocked mercilessly for being a pussy.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: rickb223
_______________
What about June, July, and August in Texarkana every year, with no recesses and no air conditioning?
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: brak at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (xwPSp)
__________
Totally. Without the 17th, Boehner would have been an awesome speaker.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (0LHZx)
The answer lies in Milton Friedman's quote: The way you solve things
is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the
right thing.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:33 PM (CR+Uv)
The founders had the right idea. They knew that man is basically dishonest and that government of men will inevitably become dishonest. So they gave the federal government very little power and gave the States most of the power so the people could watch them more closely. The civil war and MA ended that. Adams tried to end it by packing the courts but Jefferson stopped that. He just didn't go far enough.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (t2KH5)
It's the law.
And is it just me, or does McConnell look like some sort of banana slug?
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (E5UB0)
Mr. Trump has triggered an ugly, extremist, partisan element that is taking over my party and ensuring future electoral defeat.
I'm a lifelong, loyal Republican, but I am thinking of leaving the party.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (Ui7Rt)
okay. Bye.
Seriously, ask yourself why. Why did we win the mid-term elections? It's because conservatives (actual conservatives, not Republicans) turned out to end the liberal direction of Obama's government. Republican leadership has taken that gift and done absolutely nothing with it that the Democrats wouldn't have done.
So you don't like Trump and his apple cart tipping ways.... you are part of the problem.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (CR+Uv)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?"
Get in front of a mirror and chant Biggie Smalls three times.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:57 PM (0LHZx)
He can sit on that long rifle he was waving around at the NRA Convention for all I care about him now.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 28, 2015 04:57 PM (v9d0Z)
Per. Fect.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 04:57 PM (LA7Cm)
not only would sessions be much shorter, but enlisted quarters mess facilities would improve through out the services, and transportation safety and efficiency would come up to first world standards.
the only home they can own are in their districts, which is where they should be most of the year.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 28, 2015 04:57 PM (vQvKz)
Posted by: The United States Senate at September 28, 2015 04:57 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Corbin Uriah Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: mallfly at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (qSIlh)
Houston. Over by the ship channel & Stinkydena.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (mBYZv)
I'd prefer reduce their influence by reducing the size of government. Big time. Less government, less opportunity for graft.
I'd also b on board w/less time in session, each state purchasing housing for their representatives so there's no personal investment in DC, and this would assist w/part-time service - no need to find a house for the entire family. If their family is back home then there's not as much of an incentive to stay in DC.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (NOIQH)
I was a student roadie for him and McKendree Spring in kollidge. He put on a great show, which was before his comeback after "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man."
And that damned Mellotron weighed a ton.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (LUgeY)
Just have weekly referendums on the more important subjects like in Switzerland, direct democracy instead of representative "democracy".
Posted by: Aristotle at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (ZYzIQ)
Well. You are wrong.
He has sucked hard since Trust.
*narrows eyes*
Almost Blue
Blood and Chocolate
All This Useless Beauty
and that thing with T Bone Burnett and a half dozen musicians recreating Dylan lyrics from the Basement Tapes.
*Bronx cheer*
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (JtwS4)
__________
You must be new around here. Ms Cuthberstson-Klein is a sock who parrots the "I'm a lifelong Republican but I'm voting Obama" non-existent voter.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: zombie at September 28, 2015 04:38 PM (jBuUi)
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Is it too much to hope that none of them renew?
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 04:56 PM (t2KH5)
If I were suddenly (miraculously?) in charge of politics in my state, I would immediately begin doing anything I could to reassert my own states sovereignty, according to constitutional limits. And also prepping the state for possible secession.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (Ui7Rt)
For the benefit of those for whom the joke is not sufficiently freaking obvious.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (9krrF)
I remember Harry Reid whining about not spending enough time at home with his pomegranate tree and his 8 year old lawn boy, Pablo. But mostly Pablo.
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (3tjn4)
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 04:55 PM (UlJ3l)
And make them wear Founding Father clothing along with powdered wigs.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (4ErVI)
We could have easily picked up 3-5 other senate seats.
But he wasted money on campaigns that were done.
He should've put $ into marginal races.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (Ojdnl)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (UBLhq)
Fuck that.
Make them culpable for their actions. No exemptions.
...then let the citizens of their respective States decide their value.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (0LHZx)
Well, not particularly new, but oh. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:00 PM (CR+Uv)
Seriously, ask yourself why. Why did we win the mid-term elections? It's because conservatives (actual conservatives, not Republicans) turned out to end the liberal direction of Obama's government. Republican leadership has taken that gift and done absolutely nothing with it that the Democrats wouldn't have done."
I am fairly confident that Susan is friends with Mary Cloggenstein. A goof on the trolls that the media find every four years of the "lifelong Republican" that is fed up and will be supporting the Dem.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2015 05:00 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 05:00 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 28, 2015 05:00 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein
It is radical measures in reaction to the vulgarian that distresses many of us my dear. Just last night at the club someone, I believe it was James, mentioned that his wife was so disturbed that he was considering reducing his financial participation in next years Republican Regatta. This sort of extremism will only undermine our goals.
Posted by: George Will's cat at September 28, 2015 05:00 PM (3WiLo)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 28, 2015 05:01 PM (Ojdnl)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 04:59 PM (tlGKl)
__________
You mean like elections every few years by citizens of their states? What a great idea. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?
Seriously, what do you mean?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:01 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 05:01 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 04:50 PM (Ui7Rt)
For the benefit of those for whom the joke is not sufficiently freaking obvious.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (9krrF)"
Just got a reminder of what a slow typer I am. Sheesh.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2015 05:02 PM (OD2ni)
and that thing with T Bone Burnett and a half dozen musicians recreating Dylan lyrics from the Basement Tapes.
*Bronx cheer*
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 04:58 PM (JtwS4
Oh btw there is a reason the tapes were in the basement and never meant to be released.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 28, 2015 05:02 PM (+c55T)
Mitch is still a teenager in turtle years.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 05:03 PM (8ZskC)
We have no idea of what you're talking about.
It makes sense that our conservative values would be most exemplified by the crazy, old woodchuck socialist this time around.
Posted by: "Republicans" for Bernie Sanders at September 28, 2015 05:03 PM (NOIQH)
Far too many on our side view their job in Congress more like you would look at a Country Club membership than fighting for the survival of the nation.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:03 PM (XVrwJ)
Posted by: peacelovewoodstock at September 28, 2015 05:03 PM (X+HRW)
Apparently the cat smuggled a chipmunk into the kitchen. This should go over very well.
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 05:03 PM (DL2i+)
No pizza for you, McConnell. You missed your chance to learn to fight.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:01 PM (0LHZx)
I took it to mean stop paying them from the federal treasury at all and let the states decide what they want to pay their own representatives.
A novel idea, and not without merit.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: The Guy Who Wants to Bring Back Decimation at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (8ZskC)
What happened?!! From mclazy to seger & petty?????
Now I must read the inbetween
Posted by: Ruth at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (oo88B)
Seriously, what do you mean?
No Congressional Pay Scale.
Let the States put a value on their service, not their cronies in the Congress.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 28, 2015 05:05 PM (NeFrd)
Much more ammunition.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:06 PM (LUgeY)
Paint everything inside the beltway with High Level Radioactive Waste. They're a tumor on the Nation anyways.
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (EIFYf)
Not that I'm against that, but that would require a constitutional amendment to be at all effective, given that you cannot reduce their pay while they are in office.
But, I think a constitutional amendment that requires the bloody and torturous execution of anyone who serves a second term in office (even town dog catcher) is a good idea. So there's that.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (k9qR4)
Word is staves are involved. Should be a pitched battle.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (9krrF)
Jan 2015...
THIS is the problem both parties have... more and more of the electorate feels disenfranchised and not represented by those in power.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 28, 2015 05:09 PM (NeFrd)
Let the States put a value on their service, not their cronies in the Congress.
Posted by: Garrett
----
Do that for the Senate and for the House make their pay always equal to whatever the average USA household income.
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 05:09 PM (3WiLo)
I am lost, I feel double-crossed, I'm sick of what's wrong and what's right.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 28, 2015 05:10 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: Alfred E Neuman at September 28, 2015 05:10 PM (cgxNI)
Folks, is why Trump has traction. And by the standards of opportunistic demagogues, he's a piker yet.
We will get a bigger one if things don't turn around.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (9krrF)
You serve over 2 terms, you get no federal pension.
Unfortunately, the Constitution prevents "real" term limits, but something like a pension is not a Constitutional right.
Or you can just tax the hell out of them if they serve more than X amount of terms, the Roberts' Court basically gave carte blanche to the power of taxes.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (XVrwJ)
Not the mean income. The median. Harder to play the numbers.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (9krrF)
That's not true. The Turtle got to blow all of them and keep the video for his own private collection.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (zc3Db)
Gallup ... sept. 15...
43% Independents 27% Repubs... 27% Dems
So only about 1/4 really support the Dems... yet they seem to hold ALL the power in Washington.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (qh617)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: ryukyu at September 28, 2015 05:12 PM (j29PP)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
Posted by: JackStraw
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*sniffs your butt*
Excuse me, I speak dog.
*howls back and forth to Jack's Gold*
He says come quick!
*woof*
Timmy is stuck in the well and needs help!
Posted by: Mrs. June Cleaver at September 28, 2015 05:12 PM (7d8Ef)
http://tinyurl.com/nkznd44
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (EIFYf)
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So gays are now Persons of Colon? An apt description if I ever heard one.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (6n332)
Jan 2015...
THIS is the problem both parties have... more and more of the electorate feels disenfranchised and not represented by those in power.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (qh617)
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Independent usually means I vote Democrats 92% of the time and Socialist/Green the other 8%.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
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as they say, ^this^
Yes. yes. But most people are stupid, apathetic. They will believe what they watch or whoever has the most bucks to get people to knock on their doors and lie to them.
This is frustrating, because we live in an age of cheap internet, where a video can go viral in the matter of a few days.
We should be able to leverage this so that a good candidate can get exposure without having to have deep pocketed donors like Yeb, and thus be sold out to special interests.
Ok, Moo, you are an arrogant person. Show that you are justified in your feelings of superiority and I will give you your due:
Can the internet be leveraged to propel a good candidate with no money to get widespread exposure? Maybe not? I've been tossing this around in my mind for a while. I don't know what the correct answer is.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 28, 2015 05:14 PM (xq1UY)
There's a TC Boyle story in which Lassie saves Timmy from all sorts of calamities until one day when Timmy is down the well and Lassie sees a particularly fetching coyote and just wanders off.
I like that one.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 05:14 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Timmy Muldoon at September 28, 2015 05:15 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
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I actually don't agree with that at all, Romney won the Independent vote in 2012.
I could even see the independent voters tilting to the right and being a lot of upset Republicans.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:15 PM (XVrwJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 04:54 PM (mBYZv)
I want the congress to work 14 hour days, 6 days a week.
By choice.
Because they want to go through every dime the government is spending to find the waste so they can fund what they need to (to keep voters voting for them) while meeting their target to (A) get their bonus - equal to their base pay, and (B) retain their Net Jets card so that they have a private jet to go back and forth on instead of flying on shit commercial jets with the lowlifes.
The Net Jets card would be every bit as much an incentive as the cash bonus.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 05:15 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 28, 2015 05:08 PM (EIFYf)
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Now that, right there, is funny.
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (7d8Ef)
OK, well past 200, so here's a little something for the James Bond villain in all of us: Your own mobile man-made luxury island. Made by a company that makes submersible yachts.
http://tinyurl.com/nkznd44
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (9krrF)
Meh. No Oerlikon gun tubs, no Ma Deuce pintles, no dungeon, no shark tank with laser-shielded walls......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (UBLhq)
Posted by: Killerdog at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (bEKuF)
We will get a bigger one if things don't turn around.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (9krrF)
It'll be interesting to see if Trump represents a Rubicon of some sort.
America will not be the same, either way. We're in a new Era.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (0NdlF)
Not the mean income. The median. Harder to play the numbers.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:11 PM (9krrF)
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So you want a senator to make $50K a year? Great idea. I'm sure that will attract nothing but the best and brightest the nation has to offer. And at $50K there will be zero incentive to take bribes either.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 05:17 PM (tlGKl)
Constitutional Amendment that every law must be repassed, by role call vote, every 20 years... or it expires.
And the President SHOULD have line item Veto, which can be overcome with a simple majority vote (regular veto for the whole bill still the same as now)...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:18 PM (qh617)
America will not be the same, either way. We're in a new Era.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (0NdlF)
I actually wonder if Obama was the Rubicon. I don't believe a person with such a thin resume and who spoke in empty platitudes could win pre Obama. I wonder if someone with an extensive resume and who is a wonk can win now.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 05:18 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: The Guy Who Wants to Bring Back Decimation at September 28, 2015 05:04 PM (8ZskC)
OFFS! Whats wrong with good ol' American fractions like 33 1/3 & 12/7s?!?!?
Posted by: Adriane the Math Critic ... at September 28, 2015 05:18 PM (qOsoH)
The analysis by rhomboid is more complex, but in brief:
The CR/omnibus style of budgeting shifts power towards the White House.
The regular order style of budgeting shifts power towards the Congress.
Simplest thing to do in the near term is to start immediately insisting on regular order, now that the previous cromnibus foisted off by the Flaccid Boehner is coming to an end.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 28, 2015 05:19 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Stringer Davis
The union actually enforced roadie work? Was this in MI?
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 05:19 PM (3WiLo)
It's so cute that you think Congresscritters aren't already rich to begin with and that the only money they make is while in orifice.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:19 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (0LHZx)
By this standard, rich drug dealers would no longer deal drugs. Rich porn producers would no longer produce porn. All rich financiers would stop going to work. Because, hey, we already have money why get more. This is silliness.
You can't incentivize moral character. You know who the crappiest kids are to work with? The ones who think they are supposed to get a reward for saying please and thank you.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (CR+Uv)
Oh hell, I would take a Senator job for $0. Do you know how much money you can make thru corruption and having legal access to inside information, plus use of campaign donations for virtually everything?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: Yo! at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:16 PM (0LHZx)
Whatever the solution, it does not require more money. At least, it won't if you want it to work.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (CR+Uv)
It will attract opinionated people who already have money ...
Posted by: Adriane the Math Critic ... at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (qOsoH)
I'd go 10 years max before laws sunset. I'd also do away with agency law (regs) and make congress write and pass everything.
Line item would be awful in practice, and yes. It violates separation of powers. The DREAM act done by Obama is basically a line item veto after the fact.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (t06LC)
306 WTH!?!
GROVER NORQUIST approves of Trump's tax plan!!
Which abolishes the "death tax", BTW!!
Posted by: Optimizer at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (/q6+P)
/gets up and starts the popcorn going...
this could get good...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (qh617)
Can the internet be leveraged to propel a good candidate with no money to get widespread exposure? Maybe not? I've been tossing this around in my mind for a while. I don't know what the correct answer is.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 05:13 PM (E5UB0)
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The thing with viral things is they are short lived. Everyone watches the 2 minute video that's funny and then forgets about it a day later.
An unknown, unfunded candidate could probably get some exposure online, but could it last long enough to make a campaign out of it? Probably not. The next shiny object would come along before voting took place.
What most of us still refuse to acknowledge is that most Americans are just not that bright. They believe leftist lies and have the attention span of gnats. I'm not sure there's a solution to this problem, by the way.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (0LHZx)
He's a friggin gold not a hound dog. What the hell was that all about?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 04:37 PM (OGm46)
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He could be hurt or sick. Animals don't have to be puking or morose to have something painful inside them like something they ate or worse yet, cancer.
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 05:22 PM (Fmupd)
Constitutional Amendment that every law must be repassed, by role call vote, every 20 years... or it expires.
And the President SHOULD have line item Veto, which can be overcome with a simple majority vote (regular veto for the whole bill still the same as now)...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:18 PM (qh617)
Pass my pay and perks plan and we'll have congress and the senate in their seats every morning at 7:00am sharp and no one will dare leave until 6:00pm.
There will be congressional investigations of paper clip misuse.
All because we use an intelligent compensation package that gives incentives to work in the best interest of the taxpayer.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 05:22 PM (Zs4uk)
this could get good...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (qh617)
Popcorn does sound good right now.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:22 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 28, 2015 05:22 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 05:23 PM (gyKtp)
You can't incentivize moral character. You know who the crappiest kids are to work with? The ones who think they are supposed to get a reward for saying please and thank you.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:20 PM (CR+Uv)
The money incentive is good, it's goal is to prevent generally decent people who went to politics to fight the good fight, from being tempted to take "something from the side" and eventually fall deep enough and convert.
Naturally, it does nothing for the ones who went there with a main and explicit purpose to be corrupt.
Posted by: Aristotle at September 28, 2015 05:24 PM (ZYzIQ)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
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The idea is to force them to live in the bed they make. Works in State Houses. You seem to feel that using gobs of money to attract people who really really value money will reduce the chance of corruption.
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 05:24 PM (4IEbw)
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:21 PM (CR+Uv)
By providing the right compensation package that might pay a million a year and plus the use of a private jet, it wouldn't require any more money. In fact, it would help save hundreds of billions a year.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (Zs4uk)
Obama was the Rubicon. It's all shades and degrees now.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
+1
I would easily wager if the position paid $25k a year you'd still have most of the same cast of characters.
I'm not advocating cutting their pay, but I sure as hell don't think paying these people over a million bucks a year is going to do anything but line their pockets.
I'd like to see more reform regarding what these people can do after they "retire" from government. People like Jeb Bush and Newt making over a million dollars a year in "no show" jobs is disgusting and warps public policy.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (XVrwJ)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 05:23 PM (gyKtp)
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And how much of that $17M was made after his first election? I would wager a substantial portion of it.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (0LHZx)
Ask Bobby Jindal how well "wonk" is playing in Peoria these days.
Let's recall that certain political tags become radioactive in the wake of political failure. After LBJ, it was 30 years before another Texan could get elected at the top of the ticket.
Democrats sold Obama to American voters in 2008 as a wonk. An omniscient one, whose grasp of policy specifics extended down to the finest minutiae. A guy whose IQ was too high to measure.
But since then, Obama's failure has ruined wonkery for another couple of election cycles. Americans have little enough taste for wonkery to begin with.
Really, what made the faux wonk Obama palatable in 2008 was that the public wanted someone very different from the failed George W. Bush presidency, and Bush was not a wonk, so choosing a wonk to sort out the Bush wreckage seemed sensible to many people.
Now, though, here is the reaction that wonks will garner:
http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-07-03
Posted by: torquewrench at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (8ZskC)
Tempting as it is, no, I'd tie it to median but not at median, if you catch my drift, a modest multiple (2-3?) perhaps. Just quibbling on methodology there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (9krrF)
If you are the same guy, dude, do you struggle with Bi-polar disorder? Because sometimes you make reasonable sense. Other times...This is just dumb.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (CR+Uv)
Possible but unlikely. There are few humans let alone animals as pampered and well looked after as this dog. He doesn't do shit, well he does a lot of shit but not much else other than run around and play like a 2 year old (he's about to be 10) but he gets the very best of care. Had Goldens all my life but never one like this crazy goof.
I think its just part of his psycho personality. He probably doesn't even know why he did it.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (OGm46)
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Obama was the Rubicon. It's all shades and degrees now.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (9krrF)
Obama was and is, but Trump has the potential to be a different direction. A second turning.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2015 05:27 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 05:24 PM (4IEbw)
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No. I'm saying if you want to attract top people to a position - be it a doctor or an architect or a senator - you have to pay them well. And paying $50K is not going to cut it.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:28 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 05:25 PM (Zs4uk)
I have no problem with rearranging some currently mis-spent dollars into a compensation package that generously rewards outstanding performance, and ultimately saves a lot more money. However, given our current bureaucratic track record with controlling costs, and the self-interested laziness of our ruling class, I am a pessimist on the possibility.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:28 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: major major major major at September 28, 2015 04:09 PM (Xir/S)
Hey, when I called tea partiers Hobbits it was a compliment! Who doesn't love hobbits, right? Or is it Hobbitses, am I getting that right? I don't know any of this fantasy crap.
Posted by: McCain I get a little love here? at September 28, 2015 05:28 PM (hvf9s)
That will not change no matter how much you pay them
Unless you put them in jail for it
Posted by: ThunderB at September 28, 2015 05:28 PM (zOTsN)
If you are the same guy, dude, do you struggle with Bi-polar disorder? Because sometimes you make reasonable sense. Other times...This is just dumb.
AFAIK, he is him.
Trolls like attention.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 28, 2015 05:29 PM (0NdlF)
Pay what we pay now and it's the worst of all worlds.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:29 PM (0LHZx)
2. Money earned by ex-Congresscritters for lobbying is taxed at a flat 99% rate.
3. U.S. Capitol moved to Texarkana, Nome, or East St. Louis.
4. Dress code of wife-beater and shorts, dark socks, and dress shoes for men and tube tops and short shorts for women during all floor sessions and committee hearings.
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 05:29 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Daybrother at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (4IEbw)
You get so much as a base salary. If congress passes their budgets by certain dates and they are within the overall expenditure guidelines, they receive a bonus.
Otherwise, you're just paying the same whether the person is working or not.
We've tried that system for decades and it doesn't work too well.
Hopefully, we'll elect someone like Trump who understands incentive systems and who will finally change this shit.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
Everyone that has a career in Congress leaves incredibly wealthy, has a lifetime Cadillac pension plan, and goes on to make BIG money in a different job if they want to.
There's not a lack of financial incentives to being in Congress.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (XVrwJ)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (vgIRn)
I would welcome Her Malevolence in any capacity in DC, preferably accompanied by the Ravage.
More Cromulence!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Yo! at September 28, 2015 05:31 PM (GwIKd)
Get rid of the life long politician and you get rid of most of our problems.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:31 PM (0LHZx)
There's not a lack of financial incentives to being in Congress.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (XVrwJ)
Whichever makes them incredibly wealthy, makes the country incredibly broke.
It is, mostly, the corruption we seek to prevent.
Posted by: Aristotle at September 28, 2015 05:32 PM (ZYzIQ)
Oh, now you want everyone to be nice after forming umpteen "Gangs of X" to force compromise on your own party, after being the MSM's go-to Republican bashing dude, after many tantrums directed at GOP'ers like Cruz when you didn't get the compromise you wanted?
No.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 05:29 PM (UlJ3l)
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Three words: Sheila Jackson Lea.
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (Fmupd)
There's not a lack of financial incentives to being in Congress.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:30 PM (XVrwJ)
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UGH. You're completely missing my point.
I'm saying pay them the money upfront so they don't have to make the money on the side like they do now. The tax code is a bazillion words long because every senator has their pet tax deductions for their benefactors. Get rid of the benefactors and you get rid of this problem.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:31 PM (0LHZx)
This I agree with. Term limits.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (CR+Uv)
Trump submits policies on immigration, 2A, taxes, names his pick for Fed: HE NEVER GIVES DETAILS!!!!!
It's almost as if his critics aren't being entirely honest.
Posted by: BUT HE CRIES! at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (Ui7Rt)
torque put it more succinctly than I did (faint praise! ha! but that's a reflection on me, not his excellent distillation)
I am honestly sort of staggered that the civic culture, the "press", and most of the electorate are so, so dead that this obvious, extravagant problem (appropriation by omnibus CR at end of session, accompanied by brief shut-down kabuki on occasion) is still an obscure issue.
Domenech's analysis excerpted by ace above applies, of course, to all 12 appropriations bills (I kept writing 16, but another lurking moron and fellow former Hill sort corrected me) and the politics/mechanics thereof. This is all the most elementary stuff, and both sides of course have practiced it for decades or longer. Then, 2009 ... poof! No more appropriations process.
Boring, abstruse subject. But next to judicial tyranny and usurpations (different topic), the most important one.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2015 05:34 PM (QDnY+)
Welcome to being the boss, Mitch. It's your job to get things done, and sometimes - oftentimes - that requires cracking the whip, and being viewed as a giant a-hole. If your subordinates uniformly and consistently view you as a great guy, you're not doing the job.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 28, 2015 05:34 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2015 05:35 PM (cgZPg)
Take any one of the three, and you can convert it to one of the others.
Examples of this equation are endless.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 05:35 PM (gyKtp)
The problem isn't the money in politics, the problem is where the money comes from. Get rid of the funnel of money and the problems of influence go away.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:35 PM (0LHZx)
Remove the side sources of income and that's probably not the worst idea. I remain convinced that the lack of effective "stick" end of the "stick / carrot" balance is the bigger problem, though.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:36 PM (9krrF)
Your overlooking the fact that many of these dedicated public servants are already rich as hell, were before they went to DC. Power is the only left for rich people (see Trump). I don't see vastly overpaying people to take jobs in government solving anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 05:36 PM (OGm46)
Seconded.
It's the principles that matter, not the people. And it's crystal clear that we have a ruling class that knows nothing of freedom or limited government. Or integrity. Or empathy. Or anything that made us the envy of the world.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:36 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:33 PM (0LHZx)
Or... get rid of the income tax altogether and replace it with a FairTax. You know, since we are dealing in fantasy worlds, I can have my fantasy too. Then you no longer have any deductions or benefactors. Your tax collectors are already being paid by the retail outlets that employ them. Your IRS shrinks from a behemoth which is responsible for ensuring the compliance of 350 million people to one that audits the businesses that collect taxes. And all of our problems disappear.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:37 PM (CR+Uv)
Um, no these people have no shame.
And I don't have enough eye bleach
Posted by: Yo! at September 28, 2015 05:37 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:36 PM (9krrF)
QFT
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:26 PM (CR+Uv)
Moo Moo is always just dumb. When he makes sense it's cause he's parroting some shit he heard somewhere. He don't believe it, but he believes you'll believe he believes it.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (k9qR4)
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Thank you for confirming my worst fears
I figured someone would have done something more with teh internets if there were any potential to it.
Ok, just sit back and wait for SMOD. I can do that.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (E5UB0)
Why do you want to give them so much money?
How about reduce the cost of campaigns by making them *much*shorter, and putting caps on how much TV and radio stations can charge? They get their spectrum from the government, this should be what they give back for that privilege. That'd be a good start...
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 05:36 PM (OGm46)
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That's not true. They all leave office rich. But most of them enter upper middle class-ish.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (Fmupd)
Any good fights today?
i see that fuck geraldo is on the 5...unFuckinWatchable
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2015 05:39 PM (gf8BH)
I'm saying pay them the money upfront so they don't have to make the money on the side like they do now. The tax code is a bazillion words long because every senator has their pet tax deductions for their benefactors. Get rid of the benefactors and you get rid of this problem.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
No, you said we should emulate Singapore and pay these guys $1.5 million a year so we would get better politicians.
That's an incredibly stupid idea that everyone here has slapped down.
These guys are already well paid , it doesn't make a difference. They still will want more money and try to get in the good graces of people that will pay big bucks for influence peddling.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:40 PM (XVrwJ)
Two overweight members of the Entitlement Society were in front of me. They began to argue about the price of a package of chicken legs. Manager comes over, decides to give them a dollar off the price to get rid of them, which was met with a "Oh HELL no!!!" and then the assistant manager came over.
I ended up re-loading my cart and moving to another line. When I left the bitchez were still loudly arguing. Over chicken legs.
Then I turn on The Five, and there's Geraldo.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 05:41 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 05:38 PM (NOIQH)
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So you're going to say nobody can campaign before, what July 1st? Nobody can give any speeches? Nobody can write any op-eds? Nobody can write any books? Nobody can make a you-tube video?
And what about cable stations? Those aren't owned by the govt.
You'd be going down a pretty scary path by telling people when they can and can't campaign.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:41 PM (0LHZx)
socks, and dress shoes for men and tube tops and short shorts for women
during all floor sessions and committee hearings.
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 05:29 PM (UlJ3l)
My God man look up Rosa DeLauro before you start in with the crazy talk!!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 05:42 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 05:42 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Abby Normal at September 28, 2015 05:43 PM (uraqb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:43 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2015 05:44 PM (gf8BH)
Nope. Over half of the serving members of Congress have net worths over $1 million, some far more. And a very large percentage of them had their money before even getting to DC.
Issa made his money in the car business. Worth almost half a billion. One guy married the daughter of the founder of Clear Channel. Kerry inherited and married it, his predecessor with Teresa made it the old fashion way, inherited it. Warner of Virginia was an investor in Nextel and founded his own cellular company. And on and on.
There are a shitload of millionaires in Congress and a very large percentage of those made millions before ever hitting DC. Not saying they aren't making more now, particularly scumbags like Feinstein who shovels money to her husband's company but an extra million or two to a guy like Issa is pocket change.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 05:45 PM (OGm46)
These guys are already well paid , it doesn't make a difference. They still will want more money and try to get in the good graces of people that will pay big bucks for influence peddling.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:40 PM (XVrwJ)
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No they are not paid well at all. They make $170K a year. Which is fucking chump change in DC of all places. And it's also why the temptation to be corrupt is so high. Turn that $170K into $1.7M and it's a whole different ball game.
What you fail to understand is that if they already make millions of dollars they wouldn't need sugar daddy lobbyists to pay them millions of dollars. Is it really so hard to comprehend?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2015 05:45 PM (gf8BH)
We're all out of participation trophies.
Love,
America
Make the 1st place trophies gold,
2nd place trophies silver,
3rd place trophies bronze,
and the participation trophies from nuclear waste.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:46 PM (9krrF)
Rubio is taking a page from Trump's playbook - there is no such thing as bad press.
Sorry Rubio. You lost me completely this morning when you started lobbying for leftist goals.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:47 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2015 05:47 PM (cgZPg)
170k is only chump change to you, asshole.
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 05:48 PM (tlGKl)
2nd place trophies silver,
3rd place trophies bronze,
and the participation trophies from nuclear waste.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 05:46 PM (9krrF)
First prize is a Cadillac. Second prize is a set of steak knives...pounded into your chest.
So who's willing to take on Obama?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 28, 2015 05:48 PM (4ErVI)
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I don't live in Peoria (which to drive through is to depress) but I do like Bobby Jindal.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 05:48 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 05:48 PM (LA7Cm)
Not so much reincarnated as recycled. And when I say "recycled," I mean in a compost heap.
We have him chasing his tail now. Interesting and pathetic at the same time.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:49 PM (LUgeY)
What you fail to understand is that if they already make millions of dollars they wouldn't need sugar daddy lobbyists to pay them millions of dollars. Is it really so hard to comprehend?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
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I can't believe you're still pushing a stupid plan.
There is always MORE to be made. The idea that you can outbid greed shows you don't understand human nature.
I guess if you paid every professional athlete a million a year that would stop them from doing endorsement deals on the side or asking for bigger contracts? Right?????
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:49 PM (XVrwJ)
A few nights ago buzzion (rest his soul) went back and compared hashes from Moo Moo, Huck/Akin and the current Mew Mew. All the same.
Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at September 28, 2015 05:49 PM (8ZskC)
1. The already rich guy who doesn't give a fuck.
2. The guy who knows he can take bribes left right and center and become rich
What you will never get is :
#3 the guy who wants to do a good job but doesn't want to give up a high paying job or successful business to make $170K a year while living in the country's most expensive city
Increasing pay won't get rid of #1 obviously
But it will attract #3s and might make the #2s content with just sitting in office and becoming rich without being corrupt
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:49 PM (0LHZx)
These guys spend millions of dollars to run for an office that pays $170,000.
Imagine how much a campaign would cost to run for an office that pays $1.7 million a year.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 28, 2015 05:50 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 05:45 PM (0LHZx)
Because both $170k and $1.7m a year for the 4 or 6 or 8 or whatever years they're in DC is nothing in the gram scheme of things.
They're looking to cash in on the lifelong $5 million a year no-show board of directors gig after retirement. or the $20 million stock tip. Or the whatever.
The $15k in cash in an envelope... I mean, they're not going to NOT take it no matter how much you pay them.
Because here's the thing: they've already established the type of people they are -- corrupt thieves.
You can't pay them enough to change their ways.
And $170k is a good chunk of money, even in NoVa.
And they shouldn't live in NoVa anyways, they should live in their home districts. And they shouldn't be looking to strike it rich in DC, they should be looking to get in, do some "community service" then get out.
I just don't see any upside to paying them more, and in fact, would much rather see them get a huge hair cut if we're being honest here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 28, 2015 05:50 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 28, 2015 05:50 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 05:51 PM (dFi94)
Does the RNC really think that they will control Donald Trump as President? If so, I have some beachfront property in Pennsylvania they may be interested in.
Now Trump is not my preferred candidate but I have a minor chubby because of what he's been able to achieve.
Yeah. call it a 'protest vote' if that makes you sleep better at night. But reality is a bitch, and that bitch is about to steamroll establishment country club GOP into oblivion. Fuvk em. They're so out of touch a Mars rover couldn't drag them back home.
Posted by: se pa moron at September 28, 2015 05:51 PM (sI4OA)
He is arisen.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 05:48 PM (LA7Cm)
390 has moo moo been reincarnated?
Not so much reincarnated as recycled. And when I say "recycled," I mean in a compost heap.
We have him chasing his tail now. Interesting and pathetic at the same time.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:49 PM (LUgeY)
Yeah I thought so.. The lying prick should teach a class in how to make enemies and alienate people.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2015 05:52 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: just saying at September 28, 2015 05:53 PM (g0hKk)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 05:53 PM (LUgeY)
It's not complicated to understand, just to implement.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (8ZskC)
That's how it reads from this end, anyway. You are just too smart. Everyone else has the problem. It certainly is not you...
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (cgZPg)
and everybody but Dr. Trump is telling him to treat it with a couple of
aspirin.
==stolen from Insty or someone
Posted by: Ho Ho Chi Minh, on a roll at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: just saying at September 28, 2015 05:53 PM (g0hKk)
Right. And it's not just about the money. there are far more honorable ways to make money -- like selling drugs or turning out ho's (I kid, I kid). Many of them just like the power, the prestige, and the fact that they are in "the middle of the action".
All of that goes hand in hand with money, but I don't think money in and of itself is the prime motivator for all of them -- some of them yes.
And I'd almost prefer it WAS all about money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 28, 2015 05:55 PM (AkOaV)
Trolls feed off attention. Any response is a win.
A stupid plan that gets you to respond is a win for the troll.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 28, 2015 05:56 PM (0NdlF)
1. The already rich guy who doesn't give a fuck.
2. The guy who knows he can take bribes left right and center and become rich
What you will never get is :
#3 the guy who wants to do a good job but doesn't want to give up a high paying job or successful business to make $170K a year while living in the country's most expensive city
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If you're trying to convince me to go on a bender, you've succeeded.
Moral fiber is no longer a motivation for anything.
We are so totally fucked.
Our own people will sell us out for their own short term interests.
Bender! F'yeah!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 05:56 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 05:56 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 05:56 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ronster at September 28, 2015 05:56 PM (0qASP)
Why not the same time? And these hookers, they're going to be the good kind too.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 05:57 PM (LA7Cm)
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The Greeks, they LOVE me!
Posted by: D. Trump at September 28, 2015 05:57 PM (2mdJn)
Renounce your claim to title you beslubbering scapegrace and nothing of a man!
Posted by: Strategiccplusmc at September 28, 2015 05:59 PM (OU/CU)
It's not complicated to understand, just to implement.
Posted by: JackStraw
Agreed.
Unfortunately, actual "real" term limits for federal office holders have been tried by individual states and slapped down.
A good compromise would be something like grandfathering the current crop with an exemption (otherwise it will NEVER get passed in Congress) and make all new office holders take a forced retirement or lose all federal pension/benefits, etc.
Also, some sort of ban on "influence peddling" careers after they leave for say 10 years.
Not going to fix everything, but it would help.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 05:59 PM (XVrwJ)
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The first thing I thought of when someone mentioned getting $170,000 was figuring the tithe on that. Ha!
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 05:59 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 06:01 PM (tlGKl)
Wonk isn't playing to well these days. Suck up to the gopE is playing just fine.
Don't believe me? Ask that lahood boi.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at September 28, 2015 06:01 PM (dOD0J)
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I used to be in favor of term limits, but not so much anymore. I simply do not think they will have the desired result - but I could be wrong. I'm certainly open to persuasion on the issue. I support them for local government, so I am kind of being hypocritical about it. I guess I just don't see that having the desired effect. But at this point, I'm willing to try anything.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 06:01 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree
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And the first thing I thought of when I saw your comment was how amusing it would be to watch our Low Information President read the word "tithe" on his Teleprompter.
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 06:02 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: just saying at September 28, 2015 06:02 PM (g0hKk)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 28, 2015 06:04 PM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 28, 2015 06:04 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 06:05 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Frankie the Red Pope at September 28, 2015 06:05 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: donna at September 28, 2015 06:05 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 06:05 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (v6tPi)
Posted by: SH
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I'm sort of the opposite in that I thought it was a dumb issue, but I now think they would be vital.
The problem is, these people that we send over there go "native". Not all of them , but way too many.
I like the idea of going to DC with a mission and then having a countdown clock. Instead, these people try to figure out how they can do this for life.
Being a career politician usually doesn't come about because you made big cuts in government. It's usually from feathering as many nests as possible.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (XVrwJ)
Oh, Mr. President, you seem to have dropped your soap...
Posted by: Vladimir at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (yddCj)
LOL He probably knows how to pronounce it, but when in a hurry he'd probably say tit-he" or "tith-e". or "tith." I suspect he doesn't practice doing it. Can you imagine him tithing to Jeremiah Wright's church?' I can't.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (cgZPg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 06:07 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Vladimir at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (yddCj)
Old Puttie took obama to the woodshed..... Gotta love it...
Posted by: donna at September 28, 2015 06:07 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 05:54 PM (t2KH5)
No. He's in the running officially.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 28, 2015 06:07 PM (9jeGC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 06:08 PM (FsuaD)
Yup... He's Boehner without the tears and the orange "tan."
Posted by: donna at September 28, 2015 06:05 PM (hUdMz)
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It tells you something about our Republican House members, when these are the kinds of people they elevate to the highest positions, eh?
I have a sneaking suspicion that maybe not all of them are conservatives.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 06:08 PM (dFi94)
I'm sort of the opposite in that I thought it was a dumb issue, but I now think they would be vital.
The problem is, these people that we send over there go "native". Not all of them , but way too many.
I like the idea of going to DC with a mission and then having a countdown clock. Instead, these people try to figure out how they can do this for life.
Being a career politician usually doesn't come about because you made big cuts in government. It's usually from feathering as many nests as possible.
Posted by: Coolio at September 28, 2015 06:06 PM (XVrwJ)
I've often thought there must be a freshman class that explains how it really works there. Go along to stay.
It didn't take a day for M. Love to express her support for Boehner and the rest of the class wasn't far behind. What can you do?
Posted by: just saying at September 28, 2015 06:08 PM (g0hKk)
Once you realize that his inane comments make (some) sense. Must suck to be him. I have eggs in my frig with a longer shelf life then Hillary's chances.
Posted by: se pa moron at September 28, 2015 06:09 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 06:10 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: irongrampa at September 28, 2015 06:10 PM (jeCnD)
The conservatives will take over the GOP or burn it down. I welcome either option.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at September 28, 2015 06:11 PM (+ne2T)
How does a squish like Tom Cole get elected in J.C. Watts' old district?
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 06:11 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2015 06:12 PM (cgZPg)
I read today that the Dems in the House are complaining that the Benghazi committees investigation is the longest running investigation in History... Gee, I wonder why? Maybe it's because Hillarys! "buddies" have stalled and destroyed the evidence.... Nah.... It's Partisan witch hunt they say... They got the witch part right anyway...
Posted by: donna at September 28, 2015 06:12 PM (hUdMz)
What ever happened to just doing the best you could, no matter the job?
Posted by: irongrampa at September 28, 2015 06:10 PM (jeCnD)
What a quaint idea.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (FsuaD)
What ever happened to just doing the best you could, no matter the job?
Posted by: irongrampa at September 28, 2015 06:10 PM (jeCnD)
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There's so much wisdom in that one sentence.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (dFi94)
One thing I think they we should do...
Create Congressional Housing, paid for by the individual States.
Essentially Condos where they can stay while they are in office.
Just enough for THEM to live in... not take their families... not move in permanently... but take away some of the incentive for living with the enemy... or lobbyists...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (qh617)
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Would term limits help that? Maybe.
I also used to think the house was too small - in that each rep had too many constituents. But now feel opposite. That we have way too many reps.
As Congress grew in size, it became much smaller as a body and the federal government became larger.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (FsuaD)
I suppose the same thing that happened to the idea of government restraint.
I wish I could remember the congresscritter who said "Constitution? We do what we want?" on YourToob a few years back. Thankfully, that asshole returned to pumping porta-potties after that surfaced.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 28, 2015 06:14 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at September 28, 2015 06:14 PM (6XM9o)
Now, excuse me while I perform an 'act of love' with Columba.
Posted by: Jeb! at September 28, 2015 06:14 PM (NBhge)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2015 06:16 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Furious George at September 28, 2015 06:11 PM (UlJ3l)
Pork for the farmers' lobby. J.C. Watts wasn't all that either.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 28, 2015 06:17 PM (NBhge)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 28, 2015 06:18 PM (dFi94)
Essentially Condos where they can stay while they are in office.
Just enough for THEM to live in... not take their families... not move in permanently... but take away some of the incentive for living with the enemy... or lobbyists...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 28, 2015 06:13 PM (qh617)
Actually, not at all a terrible idea.
I'm not even against some kind of reasonable stipend (well, they already get one, but whatever) to pay for airline tickets to make sure they have no excuse to not spend all of their free time in their district and away from DC.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at September 28, 2015 06:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at September 28, 2015 06:21 PM (wKcQA)
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at September 28, 2015 06:21 PM (wKcQA)
They do. To us.
Posted by: buzzion at September 28, 2015 06:23 PM (zt+N6)
Oh, and my condolences to your widow.
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at September 28, 2015 06:26 PM (wKcQA)
"Thing I can't stand is my smelly fingers!" **sniffs at fingers**"
Johnny Bench called.
Posted by: Sterling Archer at September 28, 2015 06:27 PM (amQXf)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 28, 2015 06:28 PM (67teE)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at September 28, 2015 06:31 PM (+ne2T)
House: 1st election 50%+1 2nd election 52% 3rd election 54% and so on
Senate: 1st election 50%+1 2nd election 54%. 3rd election 58% and so on.
Or as mentioned earlier, practice decimation. Base it on the coin flip at the Super Bowl. Heads, decimation. Tails, wait till next year.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at September 28, 2015 06:40 PM (uPxUo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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It will coordinated with a compliant media.
Posted by: Vladimir at September 28, 2015 07:08 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad
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More like second party. We used to have two. Now it's become one.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 28, 2015 07:25 PM (hVdx9)
That, ladies and gentleman, is the problem right there.
McConnell is either willfully stupid, lazier than our semi-retired president, or deceptively playing the #FailureTheater card. I vote the latter.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 28, 2015 08:10 PM (rl8/a)
The only regular order I know is:
1. Oatmeal
2. Bowel movement
3. More oatmeal
4. Change underwear
5. Collect paycheck from donors
6. Nap
7. Stiff drink
8. Dinner at [enter restaurant name here]
9. Stiff drink
10. Bedtime
After all, that's what I'm being paid to do.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 28, 2015 11:12 PM (47csT)
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