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Marco Rubio: I Have A Plan To Further Another Long Held Democratic Dream.
Not content with helping in usher permanent liberal majorities through mass amnesty, Marco Rubio has a proposal to advance the ball on paid family leave.
"Our policies should help workers, not cost them their jobs," the Florida senator will say, according to excerpts provided by his campaign. "I believe we can fix this problem by creatively applying our free enterprise principles in a way that encourages businesses to choose to offer more paid family leave." ... "They say the only way to solve this problem is to raise taxes, grow government, and place crippling requirements on private companies," Rubio will say, per his prepared remarks, referencing Obamacare. "I believe we can fix this problem by creatively applying our free enterprise principles in a way that encourages businesses to choose to offer more paid family leave."And what's the "free enterprise" solution to this problem that's none of the government's business? Why another tax credit of course. Companies will get a credit for 25% of the wages they spend on an employee up to $4,000 over 12 weeks. The left is naturally embracing this compromise position. No wait. They are doing what they always do...say it's not enough. This is how government grows. Liberals identify a problem that the government "must do something about". Conservatives point out that it's not the government's place to do this. Then Team GOP moderates come in with a big-government "conservative" idea. Democrats claim the moderate GOP idea is cheap and propose something even bigger and something between the leftwing dream and Team GOP's idea is adopted. And then it grows. And grows. And grows. And then the leftwing dream is realized. The reality is the Team GOP types will ALWAYS be outbid by the left. There's no margin for small government conservatives in playing this game. But hey, Rubio gives lovely speeches. So go with that.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:23 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 28, 2015 12:23 PM (9krrF)
Nudge, nudge, nudge.
Who's the expert on that - Obama's buddy Cass Sunstein?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:25 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 28, 2015 12:25 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at September 28, 2015 12:25 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: PP - The Department of (Non) Labor at September 28, 2015 12:25 PM (5fXNd)
Posted by: tu3031 at September 28, 2015 12:26 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 28, 2015 12:26 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 12:26 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 28, 2015 12:26 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 12:26 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: El Presidente Dondi at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: aquaviva at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (RHrlL)
Wait, what ?
Here's a tip, Marco - the companies that are already offering paid time off, THAT is "free enterprise" in action.
Posted by: deadrody at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (W15tP)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at September 28, 2015 12:27 PM (JOG+K)
Posted by: Yo! at September 28, 2015 12:28 PM (GwIKd)
It is refreshing after our normal parade of Pollyannas.
*snerk*
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 28, 2015 12:28 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Garrett at September 28, 2015 12:28 PM (tlGKl)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:28 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Faux News, the Conservative Channel at September 28, 2015 12:28 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 12:29 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Valiant at September 28, 2015 12:29 PM (2bqlb)
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at September 28, 2015 12:29 PM (2Ahat)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 12:29 PM (JtwS4)
F*** 'em. They chose to make nice with Social Justice and flip us all off. Let them enjoy their new friends.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:29 PM (WlG0e)
Just ask President's McCain and Romney.
Posted by: rd at September 28, 2015 12:30 PM (SukjU)
Posted by: PP - The Department of (Non) Labor at September 28, 2015 12:30 PM (5fXNd)
Posted by: Pope Fidel II at September 28, 2015 12:30 PM (hKyl0)
How about GTFO and don't bother with it.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:30 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:31 PM (8ZskC)
Dear Bander: How else am I going to whow "I Care" if I don't use the force of the federal government to get companies to fall in line?
Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 28, 2015 12:31 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: mallfly at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (evdj2)
Of course I never fell for that other empty suit Obama's alleged oratory skills either.
I guess I'm immune to phonies.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (neool)
I'm tired of using the tax code as a way to control the populace (and yes businesses included there, "businesses are people, my friends.")
I still find it ironic that President Obama is busy chastising businesses for not offering paid maternity leave, when the government itself only offers you the ability to use your sick and vacation time (which is pretty much what most other places offer: store up your time.)
I get it, it's hard for hourly workers to make things work re: maternity leave. Life, sadly, is full of trade offs.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:33 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 12:33 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (evdj2)
The cops would just show up and shut it down anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 28, 2015 12:33 PM (2Ojst)
We propose to open federal supermarkets across the US. We will simply take all the food from the farmers and manufacturers.
See? Free-market solution.
Posted by: Your Betters in the GOP at September 28, 2015 12:33 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: CJ at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bernie Bott at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: mallfly at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (qSIlh)
*****
These days it is give them all of what they want and then creatively think of MOAR things to give them.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (2z4UX)
Posted by: mallfly at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (v9d0Z)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Cuban Dondi at September 28, 2015 12:35 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 12:35 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:35 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:36 PM (NOIQH)
If I'm an in-demand enough person, I can afford to do this. If I am not in-demand enough, then I may have to take your crappy "no PTO job" until I can make my self in-demand enough: at which point I can tell you to "take this job and shove it," and move to an employer who offers better compensation.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 28, 2015 12:36 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:36 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:36 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 12:36 PM (gyKtp)
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 28, 2015 12:34 PM (kff5f)
I think you mean, as per last thread...
Bern it down.
Redistribute the stones.
Collectivize the earth where it stood.
Posted by: Insomniac
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (hvf9s)
What problem?
by creatively applying our free enterprise principles in a way that encourages businesses to choose to offer more paid family leave.
Huh?
So ... we've moved from maternity leave (where the business is forced to give the mother time off and hold her job in case she decides to come back) to "family leave". Those pregnant fathers certainly need to be able to tie businesses up, too. Otherwise, they would feel all left out.
I think Rubio needs to get a family leave of this nation. He should go back to Cuba or, better yet, he could deport himself to Mexico to be with the constituency that he serves.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Moderate tone at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (W5DcG)
Ah yes. Because when we 'creatively applied free enterprise principles' to encourage other things, such as and home ownership and student loans, it's worked out swimmingly.
Posted by: joe at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (KUaJL)
Whatever. I doubt I would vote for Rubio.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (VRc/p)
Today -
the other 1/2 will be along shortly.
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (8ZskC)
Whistles when he gets a hummer from all of the golf cleat holes.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (1RNgT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (iynDC)
An actual skin flute?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 28, 2015 12:32 PM (evdj2)
They can just nationalize it.
Posted by: rd at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (SukjU)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (8ZskC)
So Rubio is Chuck Schumer's dogsbody Baldrick with a bath and a cunning plan....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (UBLhq)
"Not content with helping in usher permanent liberal majorities through mass amnesty,"
Not defending Rubio- he's a lying, trasonous worm- but amnesty would only add a net 5 million or so Dem voters, whereas the candidate you like (Jindal) would add tens of millions through his plan to increase legal immigration "by a lot" (his exact words). And you've said you'd vote in the general for a party that favors pure open borders (Libertarians) .
Posted by: Jon at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (HA+/6)
Posted by: B. Clinton, horn dog at large at September 28, 2015 12:39 PM (bEKuF)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:39 PM (mcm0N)
I think modern companies would rather work together to keep costs down than try to out-innovate each other.
The latter is really hard and stuff. The former is really easy.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:39 PM (WlG0e)
How about we talk about some leave from that obligation instead?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 12:39 PM (X7E8f)
Rubio/Kascih or Kasich/Rubio?
Posted by: Moderate tone at September 28, 2015 12:37 PM (W5DcG)
The Ambiguously Conservative Duo.
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 28, 2015 12:39 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (0O7c5)
This message is sponsored by your GOPe Party.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (JmGFJ)
What used to be "benefits" is becoming mandatory compensation, pretty much undercutting any desire for self-improvement.
I said it before and I'll say it again: flipping burgers was only marginally worse than cutting open mice all day. If the compensation packages begin to equalize due to crazed government intervention, what's the value in me taking the educated job (which often required staying late or coming in early as opposed to working a set shift.) Plus I have the value of not having any real responsibility (as opposed for being on the hook if the $1.2 million experiment failed.)
The real benefit to the education was the increased compensation package (i.e. benefits, because my wage was shit.) But those are being mandated everywhere now. (if you have a pure desk job YMMV.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (0LHZx)
I don't think he thought back then that the push would come from a Republican candidate for President though.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 28, 2015 12:41 PM (PFy0L)
Private businesses should have their own policy. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
I worked for a small to medium company for years.
When they needed it we hired more & vice versa.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (oDCMR)
Ding ding motherfvcking ding!
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (wAQA5)
Jeb - who is currently polling in fourth if we're generous - had a front page article on foxnews.com over the weekend about how 'polls don't matter.' This from the party that justifies every inaction by saying it polls badly.
What other fourth place contender would get that kind of coverage?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (WlG0e)
I will raise one point that always makes feminists heads explode:
Paternity leave has been shown to be more beneficial to women in high paced careers than maternity leave.
In some respects I'm an example of this in action.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (tM4uk)
Aye, there's the rub. We think we're the base.
They don't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (JtwS4)
On the upside, if Rubio doesn't swivel, he's gone from the Senate.
Of course, admittedly pretty high probably of swiveling phrased as "heeding calls from Florida voters asking I stay and continue the fight".
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (0LHZx)
Not everyone can have the duties and salary of your manservant, Moo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:42 PM (8ZskC)
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As a Nobel Prize Winner (TM), I would like to say this is a stupid idea.
Obviously we should instead be giving everyone trillion dollar coins to sit around at home and watch TV all day. That way people will have enough money to do whatever they want to, you ignorant fascist.
I mean who in the hell can like on only $100K a year?
Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Maygynz Kelly at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (s/yC1)
The real benefit to the education was the increased compensation package (i.e. benefits, because my wage was shit.) But those are being mandated everywhere now. (if you have a pure desk job YMMV.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (tM4uk)
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This is what happened in the UK with doctors. A doctor in the UK makes just a bit more than someone working in a factory. So people stopped going to medical school. The result is now every doctor is from Pakistan or India.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:40 PM (0LHZx
Don't forget subsidized medical doobies.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (VRc/p)
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:44 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (OiH3z)
Posted by: Eye Gore at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (W5DcG)
There's only R candidate that can break that cycle.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (mcm0N)
No amount of money will keep Biden from sniffing your hair if he's feeling gropey.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (VRc/p)
I wonder if I saved it.
Isn't this a Jeb idea too?
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Jon at September 28, 2015 12:38 PM (HA+/6)
Assumes a fact not in evidence: that legal immigrants would all necessarily vote Democrat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (0yhH4)
Don't you have to actually have a job before you get "paid family leave"?
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:44 PM (wAQA5)
Shh! He's on a roll.
Posted by: GOPe at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:44 PM (wAQA5)
_________
That's sexist talk asshole. Even if a woman watches Maury all day long, she still deserves to be paid when she pops out her 7th baby by the 6th daddy.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (uJK1E)
* steps out of character*
I can't believe this crap.
Posted by: Furious George, Channeling RINOs at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (UlJ3l)
But he's such an attractive and articulate young man!
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (s/yC1)
........................
with ears even bigger than Barry's
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (EzgxV)
Except...the cost of that has to be born somewhere. I later learned that if a Canadian woman had a kid w/the birth defects that my son had their healthcare would not cover the necessary surgeries. What good is the year off if your kid dies within the first week of his life?
No free lunches, Marco, and rational people know that the money for that tax incentive comes from somewhere.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (NOIQH)
Don't you have to actually have a job before you get "paid family leave"?
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:44 PM (wAQA5)
i wonder if family leave includes your "pet family"
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (0O7c5)
This is all very confusing. I'm sure Boobio will explain how creatively the free market principles will have to be ass-raped in order to hash this all out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (zc3Db)
***
Can we get one of the few conservatives in congress to sponsor a bill that officially renames marijuana to soma in all government documents?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (uJK1E)
I had a coworker who did basically this.
She had her kid, cashed out her entire sick and vacation days, then quit.
(Although the vacation was kinda meaningless because those paid out upon separation anyway. But the sick was a huge win, it was like 4 weeks pay.)
Meanwhile I transferred from one department to a "non accruing" position and lost 5 weeks of sick time. Just *poof* gone. If I had had a kid, I could have totally milked it.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (8ZskC)
_________
There are 30M illegals (forget that 11M bullshit number they throw around that hasn't increased in 25 years).
But even if let's say "only" 5M get citizenship, the second they are citizens, they can legally bring in every relative. So now take that 5M and multiply it by every sibling, every parent and every spouse of those 5M and that's your actual number of lifelong Dem voters.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (8XRCm)
Always, me me me. Listen old farts in ME, I saved for my retirement, I am not sending you shit because you didn't. Your family can look after you or you can die, I am sick of these leaches.
Get it?
Posted by: Nip Sip, da Bridge Player at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: buzzion at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (gmeXX)
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heh, thanks for clarifying that. I like to know the whys.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (1Zmfg)
That an higher unemployment rates for women.
Statistically proven! But hey, unintended consequences are for idiots.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:46 PM (zc3Db)
Lots of times this includes "or adoption." Adoption is great and all, but there's not exactly a medical recovery time....
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (tM4uk)
I took three weeks off work to help out with my newborn son. It wasn't because I felt left out. It wasn't because I wanted to tie up my employer. It was because a newborn is a lot of work and I needed to help my wife who wasn't getting any sleep.
I used two weeks of vacation time, and only one week of "paternity leave".
Do I think the gov't should be involved? Hell no. Do I think the idea of paternity leave is crazypants? Hell no.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (jhqr1)
Lots of folks have been sleeping well every night on our dime. A whole bunch of commerce flows through sea lanes that we keep open.
Time to put in a toll booth.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:43 PM (mcm0N)
Too bad her War Chest is down around her War Knees.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (0yhH4)
You know, I read that as 'medical boobies' and I had a brilliant idea.
What do they call the companion dogs that you're allowed to bring in restaurants and on planes if you're emotionally frizzy? I forget, let's call them comfort companions.
I would like the government to issue me a pair of boobies atttached to a suitably attractive girl so that I can take them everywhere and have them to calm me down.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (JtwS4)
While we're taking about the primary undercard:
Sen. Rand Paul on Monday declined to say whether he still supports fellow Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell as Senate majority leader. During an appearance on Fox News Americas Newsroom, Paul was asked if he supported McConnell.
Paul said only that conservatives are not happy and want leaders with the guts to stand up on major issues.
Fox host Bill Hemmer pressed Paul on his original question: Again, Mitch McConnell do you support him or not?
There isnt really a battle or an election going on. Or any other choices. There arent, Paul responded. There is no other choice in the Senate [for leadership].
Asked again whether he supported McConnell for now, Paul said, There is no election. There is no battle going on.
So, we're going to take that as a yes.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (kdS6q)
They sure seem to be doing so now.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (WlG0e)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:45 PM (0yhH4)
___________
Not ALL but pretty damn close to all.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/undocumented-immigrants-voted-2012/story?id=18357147
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (0LHZx)
How about cut my taxes so I can take home more of the money I keep which might allow me to take more time off (even if unpaid).
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (gmeXX)
Burn the witch!
Posted by: GOPe at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (1DH1V)
***
An actual conservative congress has had the tools for this since the Reps took the Senate.
Figure out which departments you need to fund and create bills to do so.
If Obama vetoes them ask why he is vetoing Veteran care or whatever.
Then...don't create a bill to fund the parts that shouldn't be funded. Obama can't veto it.
Problem solved....if the Reps actually wanted to solve the problem.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee"
Chaffee, baby, where you been? Fall into a well or something?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (LA7Cm)
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True statement. Its not businesses that are hurting employees. Its government. Its always government.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (gmeXX)
To be fair, even back in the day when I really liked him, has he been touted as anything else? Being a muy caliente JFK is kind of his schtick.
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: GOPe at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (1DH1V)
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WTF did *I* do????
I swear, NO respect on this blog.
Posted by: Christine ODonnell at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (8XRCm)
(Although the vacation was kinda meaningless because those paid out upon separation anyway. But the sick was a huge win, it was like 4 weeks pay.)
Same here. Previous job the girl goes on maternity leave, pretty much every single coworker knew she wasn't coming back. But still had something like 6 weeks of paid leave and then she's not coming back. Hell she may have actually started doing part time secretarial work before she officially quit.
Posted by: buzzion at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (zt+N6)
How about cut my taxes so I can take home more of the money I keep which might allow me to take more time off (even if unpaid).
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (gmeXX)
.....................
That makes sense, so forget it.
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (mcm0N)
How come the Dems are for open borders?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 28, 2015 12:51 PM (W5DcG)
Service Tits?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (3tjn4)
So, we're going to take that as a yes.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (kdS6q)
Rand doesn't want to badmouth his boss.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (WlG0e)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (tM4uk)
LOL. It's truly impossible to parody these people. They're always one step ahead on the idiot scale.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (zc3Db)
Send his ass back to Cuba and let us deal with him.
Posted by: Zombie Fulgencio Batista at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (D0NZx)
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That sounds pretty hateful to me.
Posted by: The Grasshopper at September 28, 2015 12:52 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:48 PM (gmeXX)
.....................
Gee..... might even be able to afford for one parent or the other to afford to stay home with the kiddos at least untill school starts.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (s/yC1)
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It's not really a full year. There's some amount of time, 15 weeks I think that is fully paid. And then after that, it's basically the equivalent of being on unemployment, and collecting unemployment benefits. So you still get some money, but it's not full salary.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee"
Under the metric system, how many weeks would they get off?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (iynDC)
Apparently they're self limiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5aKcpAhTOk
Posted by: DaveA at September 28, 2015 12:54 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Beef Supreme at September 28, 2015 12:54 PM (lU0bX)
Posted by: Gozer at September 28, 2015 12:54 PM (xudgf)
So it's government subsidized. Does your employer have to hold your position for you?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (NOIQH)
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An actual conservative congress has had the tools for this since the Reps took the Senate.
Figure out which departments you need to fund and create bills to do so.
If Obama vetoes them ask why he is vetoing Veteran care or whatever.
Then...don't create a bill to fund the parts that shouldn't be funded. Obama can't veto it.
Problem solved....if the Reps actually wanted to solve the problem.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (X7E8f)
This has been possible since the GOP took the House.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (EzgxV)
Rubio would do absolutely nothing to curtail government spending.
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Does that mean like cut? Becaise to that sir, I say no! To more spending though...Si se puede!
Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (VRc/p)
Service Tits?
Posted by: Cicero
Oooooh. Cute! Can I pet them?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:56 PM (iynDC)
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The power of the purse ain't what it used to be.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:56 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 12:56 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 12:55 PM (NOIQH)
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I'm not saying it's a good thing, just saying it's false to say in Canada you get a full year's worth of paid maternity leave, since that implies fully paid. It's bad, but it's not THAT bad. You get about $500/week for 30-40 weeks.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (0LHZx)
Aren't businesses forced to keep the job available for the mother for at least a year, if she decides that she wants to come back? That's what I recall from a while ago.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:56 PM (gmeXX)
this is the kinder gentler power of the purse.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (0O7c5)
"I will call your Paid Family Medical Leave and raise you the metric system.
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee"
Chaffee, baby, where you been? Fall into a well or something?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 12:50 PM (LA7Cm)
..........................
He's been busy trying to figure out how to convert decimal feet into meters.
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (wAQA5)
Was standing in a line this weekend and the people next to me talked about how for complex medical things Canadians will move to US, establish residence, get medical things done, and then move back to Canada. But of course the US is horribly uncouth, dontcha know.
Et tu, el Norte? Mebbe need to build that northern wall after all, hah.
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (8ZskC)
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If we are getting a scatter brained national socialist no matter what - Bernie, Hillary, the JEB, Rubio, etc...can we pull Stormy Daniels out of wherever she is hiding? Because frankly she is exactly the sort of lightweight we should get.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (X7E8f)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/undocumented-immigrants-voted-2012/story?id=18357147
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:49 PM (0LHZx)
Note: I said legal immigrants, not wetbacks. There are people right here among us on this comment board who are legal immigrants, and conservative. Sure, the illegals are mostly here for the free shit, but legal immigrants, at least traditionally, came for the opportunity to earn a living.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (0yhH4)
Why do people keep saying this guy is politically astute? When will they realize the left will always hate them no matter how much they pander, and attack conservatives? They should be called 'psychophants'.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (1Zmfg)
Posted by: Hayek and Freeman at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (iynDC)
Let's see...
There's 10 weeks to month, 10 months to the year, so they would bet 2 decaweeks per year.
Posted by: jwest at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (Zs4uk)
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Oh if you called me I'd be therrrrrrrre
I'd come running anywherrrrrrrre
Ru Ru Rubio.
You're all I need, all my life
I feel so good if I just say the word
Ru Ru Rubio, just say the word
Oh Ru Ru Rubio.....
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (8XRCm)
Make them all crooks, but I can not blame them. Why leave shit on the table?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (PJ0bc)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (8XRCm)
ru ru rubio....is stu stu stupido
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:53 PM (0LHZx)
It's a full year at 60% pay, split between mother or father as they see fit.
It's paid for by the Canadian government specifically to grow the population. They wanted to entice more people to have kids, so they subsidize a year long furlough when you have one.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (WlG0e)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (0yhH4)
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I agree.
But when illegals become legal, do you think they will magically become conservative because they have a green card? They will still be the same people who are here for free shit and will vote Democrat for life.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (0LHZx)
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The power of the purse ain't what it used to be.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 12:56 PM (gmeXX)
The power of the purse depends upon the willingness to swing it.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (EzgxV)
This, and the supporting evidence that DrewM lists, should be all one needs to see that the Republic is dead. Rubio doesn't feel any need whatsoever, during a republican primary, where one ought to be running to the right, to even pay the idea lipservice. He is not worried about costing himself conservative votes. He is trying to appeal to the middle and to liberalism.
Either the Establishment is stupidly moving on with their same old approach of ignoring conservatives and they are in for a very rude awakening, or they are right and conservatives are so weak politically they are right to be ignored. I believe it is the latter, but I hope it is the former.
Posted by: Sambo at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (CR+Uv)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (8ZskC)
Shhhh, don't encourage him! He's like Beetlejuice, say his name three times and he appears. Opportunistic weasel.
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (mcm0N)
I think that CNN can let Biden on the stage whether he "declares" or not.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 12:57 PM (1Zmfg)
I like that.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Abby Normal at September 28, 2015 01:01 PM (uraqb)
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 12:58 PM (Fmupd)
I don't know. I think there's steel in that guy.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 01:01 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (HSmrB)
True historically. But the left has been gaming the legal immigration system too. They're welcoming a whole lot of poor and backward people and giving less and less place for the hardworking and intelligent.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (jhqr1)
Fair enough - it was a mommy mag, not hard news.
The point is that government money spent one one thing --- in this case financially supporting a mommy for 1 year -- means that money won't be spent on other things, in this case, treating certain birth defects (where there are standard, successful treatments available).
People/LIVs are lured with the promise of free stuff without considering the consequences. Rubio would need to get that incentive $$$ from somewhere, and I'm tired of our politicians pretending it's out of thin air.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (NOIQH)
You have to appreciate the fact this is something the "value voters" wants. That would be the group he is speaking before.
They ain't exactly "Establishment" types.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (l/pfE)
He.is.on.the.other.side.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016
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FIFY
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (1Zmfg)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (JtwS4)
It's paid for by the Canadian government specifically to grow the population. They wanted to entice more people to have kids, so they subsidize a year long furlough when you have one.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (WlG0e)
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You get 100% of salary for 15 weeks. Then you can get EI benefits (which cap out at $524/week) for the rest of the year.
So depending on salary, it could be up to 60%, but for high income earners it will be much less than 60% if someone takes the full year off.
And again, I'm not saying I support this. Even 15 weeks is fucking insane. But I'm pointing out that women in Canada don't just go off for a year with full pay, like many seem to think.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (0LHZx)
Why are you obsessed with Rubio? Is it because he is Cuban? Why not discuss Trump's push for single payer or his socialist tax plan?
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:00 PM (hvf9s)
Name one of his hot daughters you wouldn't fvck?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (rwI+c)
Lindsay Graham's purse has an automatic targeting system aimed at the middle east. He be for killing some muslims, y'all.
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (3tjn4)
Posted by: West at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (1Rgee)
Jon Huntsman, where are you now that we need you most?
Posted by: Cicero
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson.
Jolting Jon has left and gone away,
Hey, hey, hey
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (kdS6q)
Drew,
Why are you obsessed with Rubio? Is it because he is Cuban? Why not
discuss Trump's push for single payer or his socialist tax plan?
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (gXvq/)
BINGO. Well put, what say you Drew?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (jJRIy)
The House doesn't use its power of the purse.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (0LHZx)
No, of course not. But where in hell did you read into my statement anything about "legalizing illegals", which is basically amnesty. I was referencing Jindal's comments about increasing legal immigration. That could be a good thing if sensible criteria were used to actually select for self-sufficient entrepreneurial types who would be likely to vote conservatively.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (8ZskC)
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I was hoping for sentience.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (rwI+c)
Donks always go the same route, "force employers to pay for workers who do not work".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (UBLhq)
The House doesn't use its power of the purse.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:04 PM (sj3Ax)
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Yes, I know. Was being sarcastic.
Posted by: SH at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (gmeXX)
Everyone who is not Trump supporter is establishment according to Trumpkins.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2015 01:02 PM (NOIQH)
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Easy. We just tax the rich more. Duh!
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 01:06 PM (0LHZx)
Why are you obsessed with Rubio? Is it because he is Cuban? Why not
discuss Trump's push for single payer or his socialist tax plan?
Posted by: Vision
Yes. Drew is famous for his incessant, haranguing, repetitive post criticizing Rubio.
Hey look. There's another one.
And another.
yeah.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 28, 2015 01:06 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 28, 2015 12:59 PM (WlG0e)
We did that too, mon ami. Guess what ethnic group is taking advantage of it? Not ze native French, zut alours.
Posted by: France, comment ditez vous Allah Ackbar? at September 28, 2015 01:06 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 01:01 PM (s/yC1)
Not a Carson fan, but I do admire that he did NOT back down on the sharia kerfuffle, and also pointed out that it might be nice to actually listen to what people say rather than project the stock media bias on them!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 28, 2015 01:06 PM (ftVQq)
Everyone who is not Trump supporter is establishment according to Trumpkins.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (gXvq/)
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Spending hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have in order to pay for shit we don't need is fiscal conservatism according to establishment types like you.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 01:07 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Bullshit Artists at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (J3phO)
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They don't even use the power of the fanny pack.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (1Zmfg)
Well if you would at least try to reduce your gross tonnage someone else might be able to squeeze into the bathtub with you.
Posted by: B. Clinton, horn dog at large at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (bEKuF)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 28, 2015 01:09 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Arson Wells at September 28, 2015 01:09 PM (UnJ7w)
What is the difference between Obama and Trump? Hmm, I wonder.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:09 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2015 01:05 PM (0yhH4)
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Oh sorry, I confused some of the posts/replies.
Yeah you're right kind of. Legal immigrants aren't as bat shit left as illegals will be. But they are still a lot more Democrat than native Americans, as a whole.
They didn't used to be, but they are now. Look at the Asian vote for president. In the 80s, solid Republicans. Today, solid Democrat. And these are the "hard working, tax paying, looking for a better life" immigrants.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
So calm yo tits moves from meme to reality?
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:10 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 28, 2015 01:10 PM (ftVQq)
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.
Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.
Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.
Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:10 PM (rwI+c)
Rush is saying Mcaconnell has to resign because the base is leaving the GOPe.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:08 PM (sj3Ax)
the base has left.....the gop has gotten the message too late....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 01:10 PM (0O7c5)
Its all good, your great leader Trump will take care of everyone.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:11 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: fixerupper
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I tried for a mind-meld, but all I got was a recorded message.
Posted by: Mr. Spock at September 28, 2015 01:11 PM (J3phO)
Idiocracy would be a great movie for an AoS live blog review/analysis!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 28, 2015 01:12 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 01:12 PM (0O7c5)
Immigrants don't vote Republican due to the hostile rhetoric emanating from many Republicans.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:12 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2015 01:13 PM (2/WhT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:13 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2015 01:13 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:12 PM (gXvq/)
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What da fuq are you talking about???
Posted by: Asians, Indians and Cubans Everywhere at September 28, 2015 01:14 PM (8XRCm)
Name one of his hot daughters you wouldn't fvck?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 28, 2015 01:03 PM (jJRIy)
Seeing as I am an evil boring cisgendered gal, um, none? Lol. Even if he had smokin' hot sons I'd feel the same.
Speaking of smoking hot... Scott Eastwood in the Wildest dreams vid. Like a young doppleganger of his poppa. I may have watched that more times than I care to admit, hah.
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:14 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 28, 2015 01:14 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Moo Moo is wrong again, what a shock at September 28, 2015 01:14 PM (ZtFr+)
Spoken like a true Marxist.
Posted by: Vision at September 28, 2015 01:16 PM (gXvq/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 01:16 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 28, 2015 01:16 PM (0dcbp)
Moo is the banned Palin Steele returned with a different fake persona. No commenter has ever been more willing to reveal their complete ignorance of whatever is the topic de jour than he.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:16 PM (rwI+c)
Democrat immigrants don't vote Republican due to the hostile rhetoric about statism emanating from many Republicans.
FIFY.
Posted by: Arson Wells at September 28, 2015 01:17 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Fritz at September 28, 2015 01:17 PM (3tjn4)
Seriously. If Trump manages to get elected and accomplishes not one thing more he'll have been worth it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 01:17 PM (LA7Cm)
He hasn't even been nominated and he's gotten rid of that shit-weasel Boehner.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:18 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 01:16 PM (0O7c5)
Ha I KNOW!
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 28, 2015 01:01 PM (s/yC1)
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Just had a similar conversation with son living in Madison, WI. My premise was that POTUS requires 'no win' decisions and I would be more comfortable with someone with a clear moral sense making those decisions. (I am including secular people in moral decisions.) Similar to parenting decisions -- most are 'no win' and can only be made in the context of what you can live with.
Cruz is my choice, but youngest kid makes a good argument that Carson has the experience with 'no win' decisions as well.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 28, 2015 01:17 PM (LA7Cm)
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Some are hoping Trump moves the Overton Window.
Im hoping he steps off twenty paces to the right, smashes a hole thru the wall and shouts "Put the damn window HERE!!".
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 28, 2015 12:47 PM (0LHZx)
No, it's this 30M online meme that is utter bullshit, which is not based on anything scientific, it's completely made up out of thin air (it's also bullshit that the Census Bureau's 11M estimate hasn't changed in 25 years: At the time of Reagan's 1986 amnesty the illegal population was estimated to be about 4 million, and it didn't exceed 10 million until less than a decade ago).
It's weird that so many pro-enforcement message board posters keep pushing this myth, because it actually undermines the cause: Obviously, the more illegals there are, the more difficult and expensive it will be to shrink that population, and therefore the more likely it is that the public will support amnesty instead. Also, by exaggerating the size of the illegal population, you are taking attention away from the real existential threat to conservative government: Excessive legal immigration. Every year we are handing out green cards to 1.2 million new legal immigratnts, who vote 80-20 Democrat.
Posted by: Jon at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (HA+/6)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 28, 2015 01:20 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: LizLem at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (hvf9s)
must pull myself together.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 28, 2015 01:20 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2015 01:20 PM (Fmupd)
Hey now.. I don't support trump and I'm far-far-far from establishment....
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 28, 2015 01:20 PM (HSmrB)
I know you were bring sarcastic.
We should force Republicans to listen to Mark Levin, that might get the idea in their tiny useless brains.
They only care about the parties, etc they're invited to.
Rand Paul won't say anything about McConnrll because he needed him to help KY change to a caucus so Rand could run for president & senate in same year. If Rand thought his chances were so great, he should've given up senate seat.
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:20 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 28, 2015 01:19 PM (8XRCm)
It will be a gold leaf gilded framed window, very classy...
Posted by: Da Trump at September 28, 2015 01:21 PM (hvf9s)
Not really. There are so many easy and free solutions to the problem that it's simple. We have listed them many times. A tax on remittances and asset forfeture might pay for the program entire.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:22 PM (rwI+c)
All I could think was nope, nope and we're back to liking creases in pants.
Posted by: Usedtocould at September 28, 2015 01:24 PM (bYwuM)
Birth rates and border crossings (legal and illegal) are NOT static.
Posted by: Arson Wells at September 28, 2015 01:25 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:25 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at September 28, 2015 01:25 PM (rwI+c)
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Thread winner ^^
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at September 28, 2015 01:27 PM (uRumV)
So that means things are always moving towards the Dem policy goals.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 28, 2015 01:30 PM (LXJ1e)
I'd like to propose a similar criteria for immigration. If a single Syrian or Dominican emailed you that that they felt things were getting tough, so they demanded the right to move into your house so they could raid your icebox, steal your silverware, defecate on your rug and endanger your family and berate you for being a privileged racist - wouldn't you say, I have no such moral obligation. Eff off.
But immigration is just this situation replicated. But replicating a situation does not change what the morally appropriate response to it is.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 01:31 PM (1Zmfg)
Posted by: holygoat at September 28, 2015 01:33 PM (fIhCB)
Posted by: Carol at September 28, 2015 01:34 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Frank Black at September 28, 2015 01:36 PM (si2MA)
That must be why Trump is going whole hog and proposing single payer to replace Obamacare. It just isn't socialist enough for him or his anti-GOPe supporters.
Posted by: DRayRaven at September 28, 2015 01:40 PM (9YRwm)
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 28, 2015 01:40 PM (vQvKz)
Out of a 9 person office, at any one time, there were no more than 6 people (I was one of the 5 who never needed pfl) actually working.
We all agreed L would milk it into retirement. She always had one family crisis or another that only she, strong matron that she was, could resolve. Always late, took Monday and Friday off for months at a time anyway (OH! The tales of woe and strife were epic and complete bullshit), we never missed her. She made more money than me.
Then there was J. J and L worked together. In fact L helped J get his job. J was L's protege, spy, accomplice and all purpose bitch boi. When he took pfl everyone else had to take on his job duties for 2 months.
S did basically nothing all day. Her job description could be boiled down to: order pizza, screen calls for the Manager, fomenting plots against people she didn't like and (her actual job) hit the return button to submit the quarterly P/L statement. She got pregnant and parlayed pfl into a permanent home officing. She made more money than me.
E's wife was in a bad car wreck and pfl helped him to care for her and their kids. But he got bored and asked the Manager to let him help with J's work.
The takeaway is that all pfl did was create deep resentment and demoralization among the people who were left.
We all knew L and J well enough to accurately predict their actions and the idea that they were being well paid to scam the company for work we did was infuriating.
Posted by: CozMark at September 28, 2015 01:47 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: Rubio's Big Rock Candy Mountain at September 28, 2015 01:58 PM (lPhy2)
Posted by: Eli Cash at September 28, 2015 02:01 PM (a+WIL)
I guess they are pretty much the same, except one pays lip service to conservative causes and the other one doesn't.
Posted by: from Australia at September 28, 2015 02:23 PM (ZJ+lt)
Posted by: from Australia at September 28, 2015 02:24 PM (ZJ+lt)
That way, you pay yourself for your leave.
Your employer already gave you your money. You just need to save it for when you go on leave.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2015 03:03 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2015 03:05 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Ken in NH at September 28, 2015 03:13 PM (MqjGP)
Once you have seen the man behind the curtain, you can't go back to believing he is a great wizard.
Posted by: Michael Sebastian at September 28, 2015 03:34 PM (6ho9/)
293 This underscores the reason we have an insurgent like Trump.
It's a pity that Trump isn't an actual conservative. Will he do less damage than Hillary or Bernie or Uncle Joe? yeah, sure.
But that's like putting a band aid on a arterial bleed.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 28, 2015 05:40 PM (VvOZ5)
288 Why does Rubio remind me so much of Obama? He's a junior Senator know-nothing that appears attractive and is a minority.
Remind me again, when was Obama the speaker of the Illinois house of representatives? Rubio was the speaker of the Florida house. And got shit done.
But yeah, he's been a disappointment. At least he beat Agent Orange!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 28, 2015 05:44 PM (VvOZ5)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 28, 2015 08:16 PM (SpGXB)
No wonder this country has adopted so much of the Communist Manifesto.
Posted by: shadowofashade at September 29, 2015 05:52 AM (WHC8a)
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