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Glenn Beck: Hey, If You Opposed Obama But Support Trump, You're a Racist
You can always count on your opponents to play the racism card on you, eventually. The hysterics continue to grow in hysteria -- possibly partly because they're very shocked they're not as important as influencers as they thought they were.Beck’s comments came as part of a discussion of Trump’s rally in Texas yesterday before a sold-out crowd of 20,000. Beck stated, "The media's making this look like [Trump’s supporters are] Tea Party people. I don't think these are Tea Party people who are following him. Some of them may be, but I think these -- I mean, you can't -- if you were a Tea Party person, then you were lying. You were lying. It was about Barack Obama being black. It was about him being a Democrat, because this guy is offering you many of the same things, as shallow as the same way. If you said to me that it bothered you about his past, you said to me, 'Hey, what about his relationship with Jeremiah Wright? What about what he’s done here, here, and here?' You’re not bothered by this guy, and it’s exactly the same thing."There are other possible explanations, of course, but rodeo clowns gonna rodeo clown.
[Political and economic] institutions have been sluggish to respond to [discontent about immigration] because two (sometimes overlapping) factions of our political and economic elite strongly support high levels of immigration -- or at least oppose doing very much to stop it. One of the factions -- the business class and its neoliberal champions in government, think tanks, and NGOs -- believes in a free-flowing international labor market that treats borders as superfluous. The other faction -- liberal lawyers, activists, intellectuals, journalists, academics, members of the clergy, and (once again) NGO staffers -- has a deep-seated moral suspicion of nations and political boundaries in general. Why should an American count for more than a Mexican who crosses the border into the United States? Shouldn't a refugee fleeing violence in North Africa enjoy full political rights upon setting foot in the European Union? Don't all human beings deserve to be treated equally under the law? Isn't opposition to such equality an example of bald-faced racism? Both of these factions make deeply anti-political assumptions, denying the legitimacy of particularistic [that is, nationalistic rather than universalistic] affiliations and dismissing the intuition that citizenship in a particular political community is a distinction that should not be open to all comers. The first faction denies these fundamentally political distinctions in the name of economic universalism; the second denies them in the name of moral universalism.... The combination of a porous border and abundant jobs is what keeps attracting immigrants to risk crossing into the United States. Then once they're here, the moralists deny the legitimacy of finding and deporting them. That creates something close to an open-border policy. A majority of American citizens may support a generally liberal immigration policy -- I certainly do -- but there's no evidence they think the border should be effectively abolished. Those for whom this is an important issue are not wrong to see our drift in that direction as, in part, a failure of democratic representation.As Allahpundit notes, a big part of this is simply appreciation for a breat of fresh air in the form of nationalism without apology. Almost all of our discourse is had on a unversalistic plane -- we're supposed to put ourselves out of the equation entirely and only think about "What is the best for the most number of undifferentiated, generic people, whether American or not?" While we are forced by our dysfunctional and dishonest media culture into talking like this, very few of us actually think like this (including the self-declared univeralsts, who are very, very proud and partisan particularists for their own sects and cults -- listen to Obama's obvious tribal pride in yammering on about his own cult). One thing that has people excited about Trump is that he is talking about what is in our own interest, rather than talking about what is universally better for a generic group of non-denominational people. Nationalism has its pitfalls, obviously, but people are fucking sick and tired of being told they cannot take their own side in an argument of tremendous importance. For many of us, this is a very important point -- in fact, for some of us, this is the single-most important point of all. Without establishing that the people of the United States have the right to make policy for the benefit of we ourselves -- what the hell is the point of the rest of it? Talk, by the way, is very cheap for many self-declared universalists, because their wealth permits them to establish their own sovereign borders in the form of exclusive country clubs and gated communities.
But here is a problem with Europe’s decision-makers, and it connects to decision-makers in America. Damning "the elites" is often a mindless, phony and manipulative game. Malice and delusion combine to produce the refrains: "Those fancy people in their Georgetown cocktail parties," "Those left-wing poseurs in their apartments in Brussels." This is social resentment parading as insight, envy posing as authenticity. But in this crisis talk of "the elites" is pertinent. The gap between those who run governments and those who are governed has now grown huge and portends nothing good. Rules on immigration and refugees are made by safe people. These are the people who help run countries, who have nice homes in nice neighborhoods and are protected by their status. Those who live with the effects of immigration and asylum law are those who are less safe, who see a less beautiful face in it because they are daily confronted with a less beautiful reality--normal human roughness, human tensions. Decision-makers fear things like harsh words from the writers of editorials; normal human beings fear things like street crime. Decision-makers have the luxury of seeing life in the abstract. Normal people feel the implications of their decisions in the particular. The decision-makers feel disdain for the anxieties of normal people, and ascribe them to small-minded bigotries, often religious and racial, and ignorant antagonisms. But normal people prize order because they can't buy their way out of disorder.Or, of course, you can just call them "racist" for being the people who will ultimately deal with the disorder and inevitable tensions that you yourself are perfectly immunized by wealth from having to experience. Incidentally, wealth does tend to breed generosity, and a lack of wealth tends to breed the opposite. The country has been in a relatively impoverished state for a while now. So the people who are calling for unlimited sacrifices on the part of Americans -- who are feeling pretty lean in the wallet -- for the less fortunate of the world are doing so at a particularly bad time for it.* One could take that into account, too. Or, again, one could just resort to the Cudgel of the Clown, calling people who disagree with you "racist." * One can see this in the reactions of Germany to the migrant crisis as contrasted with the reactions of, say, Hungary, Slovenia, or even Great Britain. Germany's faring pretty well during this global depression -- their unemployment is at a pretty decent 4.5%. On the other hand, most other countries have much higher unemployment -- France's is 10%, for example -- and are not quite as blithe about letting in tens or even hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers who have no obvious point of entry into the productive economy. Many commentators in countries other than Germany are praising Germany for being so brave and big-hearted... while not exactly demanding their own countries follow Germany's example.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 06:52 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Uncle Joey B at September 15, 2015 06:52 PM (09DZ1)
Posted by: nckate at September 15, 2015 06:52 PM (n8XJW)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 15, 2015 06:53 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2015 06:53 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2015 06:54 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 15, 2015 06:54 PM (RwwCT)
Posted by: Jeanne up north at September 15, 2015 06:54 PM (FVQWW)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 06:54 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Smelly old sock at September 15, 2015 06:55 PM (FX837)
Posted by: meh at September 15, 2015 06:55 PM (bsDXW)
My goodness, I find Trump's candidacy to be a joke but how can Beck not see that this is more of an example of blind, partisan party loyalty?
Check yourself, Glenn. You've got some guano leaking out of your ear.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at September 15, 2015 06:55 PM (2Uoun)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:56 PM (t2KH5)
Don't know what that would mean as I am opposed to every social program there is at the Federal level... not much utility in that.
A hint for Beck, racist and socialist, always, converge to unity as budget for handouts diminish.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 06:58 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Fatman at September 15, 2015 06:59 PM (mcm0N)
Shitty phrasing on Beck's part of course, but I think it's a bit silly to blow that statement up into "you are a racist if you supported the Tea Party then and Trump now."
Posted by: DanG at September 15, 2015 06:59 PM (yP/qW)
Absolutely needs to taper off his the meds.
Posted by: Jeanne up north at September 15, 2015 06:59 PM (FVQWW)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at September 15, 2015 06:59 PM (q20+R)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at September 15, 2015 07:00 PM (mexbk)
"If you oppose [my hobbyhorse that is also supported by Obama], then you're a racist."
So, so, so, SO freakin' tired of this game.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:00 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 15, 2015 07:00 PM (awspb)
Yeah I brought up Glenn inn the comments last week.
Never realized how much of a whiny cunt he is.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:01 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at September 15, 2015 07:01 PM (mexbk)
Why can't Beck go back to teaching American History on TV? He was GOOD at that.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 15, 2015 07:01 PM (o98Jz)
Posted by: pam at September 15, 2015 07:01 PM (cF0hS)
Tiresome, yes.
Effective? Nah, bro, we've been soaking in it since 2007.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:01 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (0dcbp)
Buy gold, my friends, because...well, Beck fucked up gold, too, no small feat after all this time.
Posted by: Neil Bush at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Reggie 1971 at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (aCuQ1)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (40Kbn)
Or is it the other way 'round?
I defer to you, fellow morons, and to our intellectually-generous host here on this award-winning, smart military blog.
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:02 PM (n/3Xe)
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 07:03 PM (z/Ubi)
A Tea Partier, acc. to Glenn Beck
Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 07:03 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 15, 2015 07:03 PM (JO9+V)
What happened was Glenn Beck got the hook before hecwas finished his sermon at the rally. And the crowd made it clear they wanted No Mas from Glenn.
So now he's all bent outta shape. He called Trump a clown, and then called Sarah Palin a clown, for whch he apologized the next day.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:03 PM (2SXh/)
So bizarre.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: dr kill at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (msVAP)
I'm no Trump supporter by any means, but Beck is just squawking nonsense here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (Zu3d9)
And while I think enemy of my enemy is my friend is bad practice if the views are supposedly very different (like lefties and Islamsists) I don't know that Trump has got views that are deeply opposite of mine and he sure is scaring a lot of the groups and folks that have figuratively stabbed me in the back.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Joe Mama at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (zLv2s)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (e7T6D)
That's all you've got? Some eco-freak thinks I'm as bad as Hitler. Can you top Hitler?
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 07:04 PM (2iV3X)
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 07:05 PM (dciA+)
GlennBeck seems pretty bipolar to me. mood swings. ego mania. I dont think he is a bad man but I think he is an erratic man. He stopped appealing through teaching and intellect and is now taking the cheap short cuts afforded by emotionalism
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 07:06 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 07:06 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (zOTsN)
You're fat too.
Pretty much the same brilliantly effective argument as being called a racist nowadays.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Desicat at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (xXiRt)
Posted by: donna at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (hUdMz)
Beck started to lose me back in 2011, right after Bin Laden's ticket got punched. He directly compared the pictures of Americans celebrating the news to pictures of Muslims celebrating 9/11, and saying how "we are better than this," etc.
So, stuff like this has been a long time coming.
Posted by: T at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (NctcF)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (fMQoG)
D'y's'pose Beck would deem that proof?
If ID'd, check that guy for Trumpism? If he's Trumping, Beck's trumped, as it were.
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:07 PM (n/3Xe)
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (gEolG)
Posted by: Iblis at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (z0cIY)
Or is it the other way 'round?
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Yeah, just when the guy seems to be on the right track, he veers off of the rails.
Frustrating. He's sort of the talk show equivalent of Rick Perry. Just when you think the guy has it all together, you look around, and he's taken the path to Oddville.
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (2SXh/)
Hey Glenn, America is pretty fucking diverse so standing up for AMERICAN interests is about as non-racist a stance as one can take.
That guy is fucking losing it. However, so are many writers on this.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: skip at September 15, 2015 07:08 PM (5ayEa)
Stations have started to drop his show and his ad rates have fallen. The Blaze is on borrowed time, and much of what he once sold is free now and even then no one wants it. You take a man this unstable and used to a large following and take it away, and you get more than crying and commiserating with Stu about how there isn't enough love in the world and how if you tune in tomorrow all will be known. This may be the first once-important media figure to become a mass shooter.
Posted by: Neil Bush at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (40Kbn)
I said, "Bigotry is prevalent in nature."
I'm tired of people thinking they have a winner with shouting "Racist!" or "Bigot!"
I'm sick of them thinking it will make me fly into desperate apologies and defensive excuses.
I'm sick of being expected to behave in a self-loathing and culturally self-destructive fashion.
Look at the jackasses in this picture: http://moonbattery.com/?p=62992
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (gEolG)
I think Beck needs medications goes on off them.
Posted by: Carol
Someone wasn't properly grounded during his electroshock sessions....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 07:09 PM (kdS6q)
Well said, Ace. Nailed it.
Especially galling when, after non-stop demonizing my faith and values, they pivot and lecture that my faith *requires* me to do what they say.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:10 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 07:10 PM (z0cIY)
What garbage, Ace. Politicians get votes by promising voters their lives will get better. Voters may be disappointed once someone is elected, but the idea that politicians preach making other people better off is ridiculous.
And by the way, since a big reason you're high on Trump is your disdain for politicians who get elected saying one thing and doing another, what makes you so sure the current recipient of your affection isn't going to do the same thing?
Posted by: Steve at September 15, 2015 07:10 PM (+rFYQ)
And will guarantee you I do not have a racist bone in my body.
That's iron-clad.
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:10 PM (n/3Xe)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (2XMpf)
Hey, I'm dieting and exercising!
And my father DOES NOT real of elderberries!
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (2iV3X)
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (gEolG)
I have been a Beck fan. I particularly liked his Fox News show back in the day.
However -and I say this with genuine concern- he literally seems to be cracking up these last few months. I truly worry for his mental well-being.
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (tunTN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (FsuaD)
But then Beck turned and said "hey, I'm a capitalist" ... so he didn't pledge his fortune or risk his life, he MADE his fortune off the apocalyptic talk.
I still like that his product was good, but not that he claimed he was pledging his fortune and risking his life. He exposed Van Jones, he did some good stuff ... fine if that is the product he is selling. But don't pretend to be a sacrificial guru ... just concentrate on selling a product which is exposure of the overton window and the leftist agenda.
But he has to do the guru thing ... and the Mormon thing is indeed a little concerning. His own Beck channel is also a cool concept ... but he goes to that weird guru place, and acts like some kinda of chosen won. Too bad ... but those solar panels he sells ... awesome ... I'll have power when the world goes dark. He just forgets to mention it will be like 20 watts of power, unless I invest another $15K in a system that requires maintenance and a lot of how to knowledge.
But Beck did move the ball down the field a little ... so I give him that ... heh.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (6zZ5y)
us, this is the single-most important point of all. Without establishing
that the people of the United States have the right to make policy for the benefit of we ourselves -- what the hell is the point of the rest of it?
4 more years of white guilt over slavery ?
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 07:12 PM (0dcbp)
Really? I quite enjoyed that game
Niners Fan
Ducks for cover...
Posted by: donna at September 15, 2015 07:12 PM (hUdMz)
the world is a bad place with people who would do me harm is they could, take my stuff, my kids, my life
the only thing I want government to do is protect me from that. Citizens have privileges of protection and priority. In exchange I served in the military, vote, follow the laws, pay taxes and try and raise my kids to be good citiznes. An idea of shared protection and some core values.
that is not racism. That is a philisophical discussion about the relationship between the individual and the state
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:12 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 07:13 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 07:13 PM (e7T6D)
I'll be back when & if Pixy fixes my IP address as safe.
Reading on phone is hard unless I has huge 6plus iPhone & I don't want it
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (z0cIY)
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Well, not actually when it's dark. Bad choice of words.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (xWruu)
>>>Beck seems like his heart is in the right place, but his mind may get in the way.
Or is it the other way 'round?
I defer to you, fellow morons, and to our intellectually-generous host here on this award-winning, smart military blog.
I think Beck's heart is in the right place, but I also think he expects conservatism/Tea Partiers to live up to his own high standards at all times, and if they don't, they've committed some huge moral failing. Most people are guilty of that at one time or another, of course, but then the conservative/TP movement is explicitly supposed to be bigger than any one man's vision.
Posted by: T at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (NctcF)
What happened was Glenn Beck got the hook before hecwas finished his sermon at the rally. And the crowd made it clear they wanted No Mas from Glenn.
So now he's all bent outta shape. He called Trump a clown, and then called Sarah Palin a clown, for whch he apologized the next day."
It's this simple. No one pays attention to the man so he gets crazier and crazier. I wouldn't attend any event where he appears because eventually he'll start shooting.
Posted by: Neil Bush at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: logprof at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (vsbNu)
Donna @ comment # 51,
There really IS something wrong with Beck.
I've never been able to figure it out because a) he's highly intelligent, b) he is a conservative for the most part, and b) he hates progressivism.
But time and time again, the man exposes his judgment as being TOTALLY out to lunch on singular issues.
Go figure.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: donna at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (9mTYi)
The GOP establishment: Whoa, whoa, hold on there! Let us respond. What again is it that you find attractive in this Trump fellow? What does he have that we don't?
Conservative voters: He's able to make decisions quickly. He doesn't have a need to study things to death. He doesn't have a coterie of yes men following him everywhere.
The GOP establishment: Right. Okay. Got it. Now hold on while we run all that past our donor liaisons, pollsters, image consultants, focus groups, strategists, and ad placement specialists. We'll be back to you on this in six weeks, tops.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (cbfNE)
Jeeze louise. Seriously, Glenn. Retire to your Texas ranch and let your sidekicks take over the radio show.
I do, however, applaud his efforts to bring Christians escaping ISIS in Syria and Iraq to the U.S.
So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (OqR5R)
Or ban them.
Or put your fingers in your ears and intone loudly, "La-la-la-la-la!"
I can just see Dr. Samuel Johnson, with his avoirdupois, his ticks and gesticulations, his outrageous opinions, trying to make it these days in a Kotex/TV world.
Yet, we would be lost-- lost-- without him.
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (n/3Xe)
Andrew Wilkow is no longer working at The Blaze for a reason, though he's too much of a gentleman to talk about it.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (uJK1E)
Jane D'oh?!
Hey, we can call in the bloodhounds and search crews.
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at September 15, 2015 07:14 PM (9mTYi)
Lol. Took a break from the entire interwebs for a bit. And life and being too busy kicked in.
We're hosting a young student from a Very Interesting Country this year, and I'm attempting to get up the nerve to say "no" to too many committees and such.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:17 PM (FsuaD)
I don't applaud his solution.
The idea is to stop boundless immigration, not let the "right" ones in en masse.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:18 PM (NOIQH)
and all the "tune in tomorrow for the secret to the universe" baiting thing
and all that "I was literally dying" crap
he is a nut
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:18 PM (zOTsN)
To be clear, I tuned Beck out years ago.
I watched him sporadically on Fox News for a time.
I've heard clips of him here and there (primarily through YouTube), but I've never listened to his radio show live.
I finally pretty much dismissed him when I noticed he was regularly predicting major problems or promising to deliver big time goods - and then nothing really happened.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:19 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at September 15, 2015 07:16 PM (uJK1E)
Oh. Now you made him cry.
Say you're sorry!
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 07:19 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 07:19 PM (s/yC1)
Of course that is indeed merely the shell of a talking point.
The left is united around the notion of taking from others for its own benefit. Note this isn't the simple human failing that all people ultimately do care about themselves and their own more then people in general - this is something more then that.
The left exists to steal because stealing is easier then building something
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:20 PM (5LOno)
So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (FsuaD)
You haven't been keeping track of the news about those so called refugees. They are not escaping the mess in Syria or Iraq. They have been living in Turkey for years. They are all going to Germany for the sweet sweet welfare benefits that Germany has. They are almost exclusively young males.
And Obama is already bringing in 280,000 of these muzzies a year with a grand total of 1 million new immigrants a year. And that doesn't count the illegals pouring across the border with Mexico.
No, I am not in favor of Beck bringing any more of them here.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:20 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:20 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at September 15, 2015 07:20 PM (uJK1E)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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It is entirely possible, even easy, to over-commit to volunteer engagements. I have learned to say 'no'.
One reaches a point where the work is not being done as well as it might be.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 07:20 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: skip at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (5ayEa)
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: Iblis at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:11 PM (FsuaD)
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Jane!
You smelled blood in the water and came swimming back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (jR7Wy)
I like this phrase for it's simple truth.
It's also a fine lesson in the role of the Oxford comma.
The meaning changes substantially depending on comma placement. To wit
People are fucking, sick, and tired...
People are fucking, sick and tired...
People are fucking sick, and tired...
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (NeFrd)
I kinda like they guy (though I'm sure he'll assume it's just because we're both white) but he's really melting down in a personal level. He needs a break.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (pWzW/)
Life is just so full of stress!
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (BZAd3)
Crunchy-corn. Because it is crunchy and made of corn.
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (e7T6D)
So, I sit back with my popcorn and munch away, while GOP fools keep beclowning themselves.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (q20+R)
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 15, 2015 07:22 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:22 PM (zOTsN)
They just arrested a recent "Syrian refuge" in Germany who is - get this - Moroccan.
And he was in possession of 1000's of fake Syrian passports to get other non-Syrian "refuges" into Europe with him.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:22 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:22 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 07:21 PM (jR7Wy)
Heh. In truth, I haven't been on the internet At. All. Haven't lurked once even here.
But I've missed this place. *reloads*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:22 PM (FsuaD)
The status quo club can't stop talking about policy like it's the Sword in the Stone.
It's nothing, it's dust, it's been destroyed and is bereft of meaning or impact. Get that through your heads.
Today's policy is just today's lie to buy votes.
Policy? We don't need no stinking policy!
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 07:23 PM (1Y+hH)
--
* Fonize "jumping the shark" reference, obviously
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:23 PM (jBuUi)
He's also on me for not donning an orange coon skin cap and Trumpsketeer ears while checking my decoder ring to interpret gibberish posing as Yuge Oracle Wisdom.
Posted by: Cfbleachers at September 15, 2015 07:23 PM (feFSP)
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:23 PM (jBuUi)
THIS
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (NOIQH)
Obama's tribe is, basically, Bill Ayers.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (jUF0D)
Posted by: torquewrench
Rather:
Conservative: Hey, I ordered border security, small government, and a side of Leave-me-the-fuck-alone...
GOP: Yeah, those haven't come in yet. You'll just have to be patient.
Conservative: It's been 40 years.
GOP: Yeah, yeah, those things take time.
Conservative: Hey, since I've ordered, you've delivered a couple of dozen things to my competitor like No Child Left Uneducated, Shamnesty, XL bureaucrat blow-out, Mediscare D, and a raft of other things.
GOP: Well, shit, those were easy. Your items are boring and stupid. Besides we're closed for the day. Call us tomorrow, BUT DON'T YOU FUCKING THINK OF CALLING THAT SCAB ACROSS THE STREET OR WE WILL BURN YOUR ORDER. Have a nice day! *click*
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (JmGFJ)
1. White
2. Middle Class
3. Midwesterner
4. Suburbanite
5. College-educated
6. Employed
7. Conservative
8. Believe that all lives matter
9. Oppose the black holocaust otherwise known as "abortion"
10. Oppose discrimination based on race, otherwise known as "affirmative action"
11. Believe Greedo shot first
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: George Will at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (40Kbn)
***
Why not question his lack of conservativism instead seeing as Hot Gas is supposedly conservative...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (5LOno)
Tune in tomorrow, Glenn says, when I'll have a Major Announcement.
The next day, okay, here we go: Glenn is gearing up his organization for a major new push to Do Something, which cannot yet be revealed, but be sure to stay tuned, and send money, and call your cable operator to demand The Blaze TV Channel.
A few weeks later, the Great Reveal. Glenn will be organizing a rally which will Change Everything! But the specifics must be kept under wraps! There are enemies everywhere! Only Glenn can be trusted in these dark days.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (noWW6)
) It's a big tent.Posted by: Illiniwek at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (AVEe1)
Why focus on Beck? He's just a whiny unbalanced narcissist like the rest of them.
THe really impressive part is that Trump is recreating a broad, pan-racial sense of American nationalism beyond his goofy-ass combover. Americans will still be proud to be Americans after Trump implodes (or succeeds, for that matter), unlike how Beck's followers abandoned him in droves after any one of his many meltdowns.
Posted by: drump at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (7yC2w)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (TzeLs)
@ comment # 73.
"Trumpism" isn't without thought, chemjeff. - You are.
There are lost of people in the grassroots (conservatives and regular folk) who have good reasons for supporting Trump.
And you are simply incapable of recognizing those reasons.
It's one thing to disagree. It's another to fail to see. In this respect, you are a failure.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:25 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:26 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: 90+% of the AA voters. at September 15, 2015 07:26 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 07:26 PM (s/yC1)
But then I'd miss all the dick and boob jokes interspersed with newsical tidbits.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 07:26 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: skip at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (5ayEa)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (tunTN)
So yeah, call me a racist, Beck. That word, I do not think it means what you or the Left think it means.
Posted by: acethepug at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (RHPFv)
This is nowadays looked down on by the One-World Global idiots and derided at every turn.
I also believe that others have that right, too. This is the root of civilization, IMHO, and not to be messed around with. This whole multi-culti BS is just that: bullshit.
We've seen other cultures stone and behead gays, yet they're our cultural equal? More bullshit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (LUgeY)
So Glen Beck and Alex Jones walk into a bar...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 15, 2015 07:28 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 07:28 PM (cbfNE)
Pfft. I'm already a racist, because:
1. White
2. Middle Class
3. Midwesterner
4. Suburbanite
5. College-educated
6. Employed
7. Conservative
8. Believe that all lives matter
9. Oppose the black holocaust otherwise known as "abortion"
10. Oppose discrimination based on race, otherwise known as "affirmative action"
11. Believe Greedo shot first
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 15, 2015 07:24 PM (ppaKI)"
Believing that Greedo shot first does not make you a racist. It makes you either blind or stupid.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 07:28 PM (QHgTq)
Beck has the highest-rated show on TV for a brief while -- then inexplicably quit cold because he "had said everything he wanted to say."
But then, the performance-bug bit him again, and he relaunched as a radio talk guy.
And with every show, he more and more runs out of things to say. At this point, he scraping the bottom of the barrel, declaring 'Why did I ever like Sarah Palin? She's a joke. I hate her," followed by "All my listeners --whom I defended for years -- are racists. Once again my opinion of my fellow conservatives was racist."
Quit while you are only a little bit behind, Glenn! Stop digging!
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:28 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 07:28 PM (TzeLs)
The New Left:
Vocally disdainful of anything hinting of "white Eurocentrism".
Their economics? Marxist.
Hey, I didn't say this stuff made any sense, did I?
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (zOTsN)
Refreshing change from the feckless pussy named Obama.
Since Trump is not actually Hitler, he would be an improvement.
Posted by: wooga at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (t5sHJ)
Posted by: torquewrench
----
My wife used to watch "The Bachelor"/"The Bachelorette" until even she couldn't stand it anymore.
Anyway, every show - EVERY SINGLE ONE! - includes the line "Coming up: the most dramatic rose ceremony ever!"
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (sdi6R)
I'll take stupid - I meant to say Han.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 15, 2015 07:29 PM (ppaKI)
Funny how so many Personalities are getting bent outta shape when us Natives Get Restless and start asking What Have You Done For Me Lately?, eh?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:30 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at September 15, 2015 07:30 PM (iJm2C)
He's not putting up with the GOPe shit anymore. It's glorious to watch.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 15, 2015 07:31 PM (q5APL)
I want the elite to get everything they want and that is why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.
Give'm hell Bernie!
Posted by: Karl Bogendegia at September 15, 2015 07:31 PM (nEGCz)
"Listened to that whole bit earlier, and in its context I really don't
think you can say he was calling all Tea Party people who like Trump now
racists. He was saying if you liked the Tea Party before, it was
obviously not because you gave a damn about policy or economics or
anything else, you just hated Democrats or Obama or were a racist.
Shitty phrasing on Beck's part of course, but I think it's a bit
silly to blow that statement up into "you are a racist if you supported
the Tea Party then and Trump now.""
-Posted by: DanG at September 15, 2015 06:59 PM (yP/qW)
Agreed. I heard it, too. It was sarcastic.
-That's all I have to say about that.
P.S.: I'll be back around here when "Trumpets" shake themselves and come to their senses.
-See You in 2016, Horde.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at September 15, 2015 07:31 PM (OQ9R7)
Still proud to count myself as not one of them.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:31 PM (AVEe1)
___
We've gotta protect our phoney baloney jobs, gentlemen!
Posted by: Governor William J. Le Petomane: at September 15, 2015 07:32 PM (5LOno)
Botticker (sp?) @ comment # 151,
It's good to have you on board.
But Omnicorp is still going to have to suffer through a Trump tax-hike.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:32 PM (l2dSQ)
Hi Jane! We missed you! How's D'oh Boy?
He was really broken up over the suicides of his two buddies (as his dad and I were), but he's taking a full course load in school, and also doing amazing work volunteering with inner city little kids. He's also representing vets on his campus through a national organization. So he's great. Thanks.
Oh, and he is still living in Combat Outpost _____ Street, and carries.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (tunTN)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian
----
And Bob Dole. Man, that campaign was about as vibrant as oatmeal.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: Beck is a huckster at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (jBuUi)
>>> It's one thing to disagree. It's another to fail to see. In this respect, you are a failure.
Easy there, Tiger. chemjeff draws more water in these parts than you.
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (2iV3X)
Our entire modern political class are internationalists. This has everything to do with America's decline. Decades ago, our political leaders were nationalists, as have been the political leaders of most countries for most of history.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 07:34 PM (sdi6R)
Still proud to count myself as not one of them.
***
I told people in 2012 Romney's not going to win and if conservatives vote for him the Republicans will believe they can do anything they want and still get our votes.
Its a damn shame I was right.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:34 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: bjk at September 15, 2015 07:34 PM (InlTW)
distributed in Turkey
on how to immgrate to Europe
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:27 PM (zOTsN)
Funded by Obamao, written and printed in Mexico?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 07:34 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (FsuaD)
What Im hearing from ALL the Talking Heads is How Dare You Think For Youselves You Stupid Idiots!
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (2SXh/)
So, the first world happens to be white and/or Japanese. The 3rd less so.
Any effort to resist mass migrations of the 3rd world is necessarily nationalistic and has the necessary implication of being racist, even it's just because that's the way the lines and cultures were drawn. And if the tables were reversed, you can be the SJW loud mouths calling everyone racist would be yelling "appropriation".
So fuck it, embrace the evil of not wanting your country invaded and say no, we're full. This slow motion surrender through pity has to stop.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (ariQ4)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Urban Achiever at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (MbTc0)
5th dimensional chess folks.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: Beck is a huckster
I do not listen to Beck's show. But I am curious: Is "Stu" the producer who has been around for years?
I crossed him off my email list, thinking he was off the show, but maybe I was mistaken. If so, I'll add him back on (yeah, I'm shameless).
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (jBuUi)
Posting now and looking.
One of the most valuable phrasings I've ever read.
Posted by: Clarney at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (WSXF3)
Other than that, he's a flake and a nitwit.
I see -zero- racism behind the enthusiasm for Trump. I suppose there are a few people, in any such large population (40% of Republicans) who are motivated primarily by hatred of Hispanics, but I haven't seen it, and I would think most of those people would be supporting whoever's running for the American Nazi Party.
I don't share that enthusiasm, of course. I think it's misguided. But racist? Only if you consider the desire to have a sovereign country with borders racist.
I'll never forgive Beck for his waffling, in 2008 -- he waited til the last possible minute to endorse Romney. I'm not sure if he was trying to avoid the appearance of one Mormon supporting another only because of their shared religion; or if he actually wanted the Democrats to win because it would help his business.
He had a pretty big megaphone then, and he could have helped Romney win, and Romney might have beaten Obama, in 2008 -- Romney was strong on the economy and it was right after the big collapse.
Posted by: Pastafarian at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (pCf+a)
This. I can't listen anymore.
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Big Bad Bob at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (1Y+hH)
Nah. Can't do it. I'll save if for an open thread.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 07:36 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:37 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:37 PM (BO/km)
It's not just that Republican voters don't want a "non-politician"; they don't even want a Republican.
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at September 15, 2015 07:37 PM (tunTN)
@ #178:
Hell, I'll strumpet for Trump. His fight against Illegal Immigration alone is worth it.
But quite frankly, I like ace's recommendation better:
"Super Fan
By the way, zombie, who do you support?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (l2dSQ)
That occurred to me in 2012.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (AVEe1)
I would have to hold my nose to vote for Trump, but just might, or not. The thing is, the more these sellouts pound on Trump, the more likely he is to win the nomination. It really depends if they actually do control the process. I think, for the most part, they do. We'll see though. Again, assuming Trump is even half serious.
At least it's different.
Posted by: Doom at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (7RdIv)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (8ZskC)
Y'all are getting too worked up about DT. Time will tell and there's not a whole damn lot you can do about it.
You could stop drinking.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (LAe3v)
Got proof? If so, please link.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: simplemind at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (BTnAK)
I hearken to the dictum of Ronaldus Magnus when he said we are a society with a government, and not a government with a society.
And the family, of course, is the atom of society.
I take your point, and applaud it, of course, august Rickl, but can't we get a better reason to reproduce, or at least try to reproduce with all that that entails, than to improve our society with our children?
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (n/3Xe)
So fuck it, embrace the evil of not wanting your country invaded and say no, we're full. This slow motion surrender through pity has to stop.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (ariQ4)
We're not only being invaded, we're being *colonized* by the Third World. I thought leftists were against colonization. I guess that's only when Whitey does it.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (R8hU8)
Prescient 11 @ comment # 189,
I am a very skeptical of the whole extra-dimensional chess stuff.
But I have to say, you give me serious doubts about my skepticism.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (2SXh/)
What album is that from?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 07:40 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Cicero
---
I voted for Sarah Palin... and a heart attack.
But McCain is still walking around, so it turns out my plan wouldn't have worked.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (xWruu)
That's great, Jane.
See ya in the ONT, maybe. (Unless I manage to sleep tonight)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (cbfNE)
I respectfully disagree.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 07:38 PM (LAe3v)
Thanks for the reminder, it's after 5 and time for wine.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (1Y+hH)
Then there's Noonan, the Nice National Mom:
"Damning "the elites" is often a mindless, phony and manipulative game. Malice and delusion combine to produce the refrains: "Those fancy people in their Georgetown cocktail parties," "Those left-wing poseurs in their apartments in Brussels." This is social resentment parading as insight, envy posing as authenticity"
Ah, Peggy, how often one's penchant for parallelism is paraded as perspicacity...
Sometimes elites really are poseurs. No envy required.
Posted by: Feh at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (n/3Xe)
***
Generally speaking if you do the opposite of Obama you are making the right choice.
In 2012 Obama probably could have made the "moderate" resistance to Assad the strongest opposing faction. Or he could have made Assad and co give deep concessions.
But he made a different choice.
And that choice was...
FORE!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:41 PM (5LOno)
But in the end I am actually glad the guy did not win.
It would have simply been more of the same shit.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Pastafarian
So 40% of the GOP base is primarily motivated by hatred of Hispanics?
Your rock-solid evidence of this is?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (JmGFJ)
base has FINALLY had enough with the Republican establishment. The GOP
voters hate their party's leadership, and the feeling is mutal.
I agree. However, my fear is that as with almost all revolutions, the mob will take over and do stupid things, because the cynical zealots who just want power will be in charge, and they know that to make their bones, they must be more extreme than the next guy. Coherent though becomes an afterthought, just as with DT.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (BHl9S)
(joke) 100 men were fed 6 pints of beer each.
* talked excessively without making sense
* became overly emotional
* argued over nothing, and
* refused to apologize when wrong.
Beck talks and acts like a stereotype woman.
Posted by: beck appologist at September 15, 2015 07:43 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 15, 2015 07:43 PM (E1Cat)
Posted by: Fritz at September 15, 2015 07:44 PM (3tjn4)
Posted by: beck appologist at September 15, 2015 07:44 PM (PGh+Q)
Just sayin'. Now back to batin.
Posted by: Lurky at September 15, 2015 07:44 PM (vu484)
___
Hey you know I spent some serious time with American seamen before I came out and endorsed gay marriage.
Posted by: Barack "11the dimensional chess" Obama at September 15, 2015 07:44 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: rickl
----
Damn fucking straight.
Same way they hate Christianity, but don't give a flip about Islam.
And notice how they're attacking English? "We have to stop saying 'he' and 'she' and use the new gender neutral 'xe.'"
Ask any leftist if they have plans to erase all the gender from Spanish. You'll just get stared at.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (igkah)
Boulder @ comment # 216,
There is no reason to respect someone who insults you as being thoughtless.
The Nasty Trump Hater, chemjeff, is a pretender.
He pretends to have deep thoughts. But he really doesn't.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Pastafarian
So 40% of the GOP base is primarily motivated by hatred of Hispanics?
Your rock-solid evidence of this is?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (JmGFJ)
I think he's saying that in that group of 40% of republicans supporting trump you will find some motivated by that hatred of Hispanics. Not that 40% of republicans are motivated.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (z/Ubi)
That, and a lot of people are sick and tired of seeing their hospitality used to abuse and slander them. So they say 'No More.'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (oVJmc)
***
From the perspective of 2015, it will take a whole lot of extremely extremist extremism just to get us back to the status quo of 2008.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (hYmJV)
He pretends to have deep thoughts. But he really doesn't.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan
You've been warned more than once, moby.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (JmGFJ)
"I know I'm late to the conversation but beck stabbed Breitbart in the back re: Shirley Sherrod affair,"
-Posted by: CaliGirl at September 15, 2015 07:35 PM (BHl9S)
This is legitimate criticism. As when the former "Glennbeck.com" went beyond "Fair Use" and nearly copied entire articles from at least ten other bloggers.
Their "journalists" made some calls and re-worded articles that nearly matched, verbatim, the articles they stole from.
While I am a Glenn Beck "fan", of sorts, I know his penchant dipping into histrionics.
Separate the wheat from the chaff and enjoy the humor.
-Good Year, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (OQ9R7)
73 Anti-Trumpism is simply One-world-order globalism where the believer is to naive to realize he's just a tool.
Is this really the way you want to go with this, CJ???
Posted by: MAx at September 15, 2015 07:46 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan
I've been pimping Walker/Cruz or Cruz/Walker for nearly a year, but now the polls make a mockery of my pimpery.
Posted by: zombie at September 15, 2015 07:47 PM (jBuUi)
You could stop drinking.
.................................
I do that every Monday for about four days.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 07:47 PM (wAQA5)
But I have no desire to hand over my country to people who HAVE A COUNTRY and just walk away from it like it's a car that's out of gas.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:47 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 07:47 PM (cbfNE)
Has it occurred to anyone that maybe we're backing the wrong horse in
Syria? Sure, Asaad is a butcher (though a piker next to Sadaam), but the
alternative would likely be much, much worse.
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at September 15, 2015 07:33 PM (tunTN)"
That would also give us a chance to hit the reset button on our relations with Russia.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 07:47 PM (QHgTq)
You have a large stockpile of the books but there's no point on lowering the digital price.
Probably not since most books are on-demand...
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (OqR5R)
Posted by: Glennn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (Dwehj)
Pinging out to Buzzion at comment # 247:
Yours was my read on his 40% comment.
By the way, aren't you dead yet?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (l2dSQ)
Merlot and CC cookies, this is the kind of welfare program I can get behind!
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (1Y+hH)
***
If the current onslaught of illegals were made up of French speaking Canadians, but with the same cultural habits as the current invading Latin Americans, do you believe that conservatives would be just ok with 20-40 million of them coming across the border?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (5LOno)
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO
Book version: https://www.createspace.com/5705570
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2015 07:48 PM (igkah)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:49 PM (l2dSQ)
216chemjeff: Trumpism isn't "nationalism without apology", it is "nationalism without thought".
See, you're dumb/thoughtless if you support Trump.
Smart and thoughtful if you don't.
Got it. I OVERSTAND...
Posted by: MAx at September 15, 2015 07:50 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: DaveA at September 15, 2015 07:50 PM (DL2i+)
If the current onslaught of illegals were made up of French speaking
Canadians, but with the same cultural habits as the current invading
Latin Americans, do you believe that conservatives would be just ok with
20-40 million of them coming across the border?
Fickin' Icebacks!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 07:50 PM (oVJmc)
As for GB, he's a mildly entertaining nutjob whose opinion means nothing to me.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 15, 2015 07:50 PM (kXoT0)
I don't think Trump supporters are motivated by "hatred of Hispanics". That goes too far.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:50 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (W5DcG)
Ask any leftist if they have plans to erase all the gender from Spanish. You'll just get stared at.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (xWruu)
s/he/it pronounced 'sheit'Look at that sheit over there. Used to be a world class olympic athlete.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (NaeCR)
http://www.ufunk.net/photos/new-york-thomas-hoepker-1983/
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (igkah)
Posted by: DaveA at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (TzeLs)
More like it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2015 07:52 PM (DiZBp)
they're very shocked they're not as important as influencers as they
thought they were.
Just in case it hasn't been said, in a nation of 330 million people, none of us are as important as we like to think.
*ponders*
*opens a beer*
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 07:52 PM (ZbV+0)
265 It'd probably work fine if the whole world was covered with Canadians.
Posted by: DaveA at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (DL2i+)
With their beady little eyes and their heads flapping all about.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 07:52 PM (z/Ubi)
Also remember what Karl Marx said. "History repeats. First as tragedy then as farce." (google it)
We are all actors in a farce. :-)
Posted by: have faith at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (PGh+Q)
I can't listen to Beck and I hate that intro song on his radio show:
Ohhhh-OOOHHH-ooohhhh-o CLICK *changes channel*
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (wAQA5)
--
Seats are filling now - with some sweet tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdI32OqInYs
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 07:51 PM (W5DcG)
Argh. I hate commercials where the voices are made to sound like they're on the telephone.
I mean, I can see why they use that technique on talk radio shows, but it drives me up the frickin' wall.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (sdi6R)
I welcome the danger that Trump poses to the established political order, but I'm really starting to enjoy his exposure of the phony pundit class.
And the only reason these people are losing their shit is because now they see a legitimate threat to their phony baloney jobs.
Fvck 'em. War.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (Wckf4)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 15, 2015 07:53 PM (Cq0oW)
Can whoever was writing about the beck palin fight, post a link?
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (BHl9S)
From the morning news links
The reason for the current war between Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.
http://bit.ly/1id9QMf
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (t2KH5)
May I leave you with some "Persian Love"?
https://youtu.be/uTHTrPEVqjY
And a real blessing, if you would accept it:
Num 6,24-6
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (n/3Xe)
Posted by: Glennn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (Cq0oW)
I can't listen to Beck and I hate that intro song on his radio show:
Ohhhh-OOOHHH-ooohhhh-o CLICK *changes channel*
The 'Lion King' opening? Hated that effing song.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 07:54 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (PMlgt)
*ponders*
*opens a beer*
Posted by: Methos
There, there, Methos. You are very influential, what with being the patron god of meth and all.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (JmGFJ)
People who are soft on are National borders inevitably have layers of soft borders in their lives. Meanwhile their gardeners son is joining MS-13 and their maids daughter is a Bloods auxillary.
Posted by: DaveA at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (DL2i+)
Boulder @ comment # 216,
There is no reason to respect someone who insults you as being thoughtless.
The Nasty Trump Hater, chemjeff, is a pretender.
He pretends to have deep thoughts. But he really doesn't.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:45 PM (l2dSQ)
Okay so what are the "deep thoughts"?
We have "seal the border, build a wall and deport the illegals". Okay, fine.
How about every other issue?
How about taxes? Trump wants to tax the rich hedge fund guys.
How about abortion? Trump supports public funding of planned parenthood.
How about gun control? Trump has supported an assault weapons ban.
How about health care? Trump supports single-payer.
But it's more than just that. Trump isn't reflective or thoughtful about anything. He rambles on and is more interested in talking about how rich he is and how well connected he is rather than talking about any serious issue in any serious amount of depth.
I don't think I ask for too much when I say I want a candidate who can actually give a coherent speech and demonstrate the capacity to think critically about any issue.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2XMpf)
Zombie, you and I are fellow Cruz supporters.
I don't know why my computer somehow struck through that question to you.
Hope you end up seeing the appeal regarding Trump.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (l2dSQ)
Canadians like to run around naked. Canadians are mostly pasty white. That is probably why Walker wants to build a northern fence.
Posted by: well known facts at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (PGh+Q)
Speaking of albums...
I wasn't here today so I don't know if it was already given a good going over, but someone mentioned Devo in the comments several days ago. Was it because of the revelation that one of the band members is a piece of shit?
His recent wedding was themed on 9/11 in a very disgusting way.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 15, 2015 07:57 PM (lNSdJ)
I'm hungry and I'm bored - a highly dangerous situation.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (iQIUe)
oh, and tonight's mystery lyrics are easy:
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (2SXh/)
But why do they feel the need to force their beliefs on me? I don't force my beliefs on them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (FGIR8)
Thank you
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (BHl9S)
I understand that people are so angry that they want someone who will just burn everything down. Trump isn't actually that guy, he is a crony capitalist at heart and is more interested in Trump than in anything else, but even if he DID want to destroy everything and burn it all down, that's just not an attitude that I can endorse.
So whatever. I'll just shut up and let the Trump fanbois have their fun.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (2XMpf)
anything. He rambles on and is more interested in talking about how
rich he is and how well connected he is rather than talking about any
serious issue in any serious amount of depth.
You know the guy is just aching to tell us how big his wang is.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (zOTsN)
When is 7:40 Central in Earthling time?
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (2SXh/)
Apparently he thought he was being edgy and went over the edge. He has apologized.
Not that it matters. He's blown it now.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (1Y+hH)
Like I said, chemjeff, it is one thing to disagree and give your reasons for disagreement (as you just did and with which I almost entirely disagree).
It is another thing altogether to insult those with whom you disagree - merely for disagreeing.
You plainly insulted those of us who support Trump - without acknowledging our arguments.
Now you're 'kind of' acknowledging our main argument - fighting back against Illegal Immigration.
But you're distorting what Trump stands for in general.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (/Vs1e)
oh, and tonight's mystery lyrics are easy:
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (2SXh/)
The Clash - Should I stay or should I go
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (FGIR8)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: James Ensor, in Ostend at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (n/3Xe)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: chemjeff
He's a moby. He's not going to respond with anything but purposed aggravation.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (JmGFJ)
jeff, it's been explained to you at least a dozen times. You just don't want to accept the reasons.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (2SXh/)
I wasn't here today so I don't know if it was already given a good going over, but someone mentioned Devo in the comments several days ago. Was it because of the revelation that one of the band members is a piece of shit?
His recent wedding was themed on 9/11 in a very disgusting way.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2SXh/)
That was discussed last night. Jerry Casale. Twin Towers wedding cake. Fucking monogrammed box cutters as party favors. The article I saw said he's 67 and his bride is 26.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:59 PM (zOTsN)
I would be happy with any one of Cruz, Walker, Jindal or Fiorina.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: chemjeff
Don't do it. That's when things get really dangerous.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (LAe3v)
The 'Lion King' opening? Hated that effing song.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
..................
Is that what that is? Absolutely horrible. Turn that shit off every time never fail.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (jR7Wy)
291 just seems to me alot of people I used to like seem really pised off that a signicant number of potential conservative voters are not heeling anymore
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 07:56 PM (zOTsN)
It's American Idol. They've got it all planned out on who they want to win with a couple back up options just in case the public sours on their preferred winner. And then they have their niche singers that are there to keep those eyeballs on the show but everyone knows won't win. But the viewers are all sick of it so fuck you vote for sanjay or whatever his name was.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (msVAP)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (e3JIL)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (jR7Wy)
So whatever. I'll just shut up and let the Trump fanbois have their fun.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:58 PM (2XMpf)
*pats seat* Come sit next to me. I have cookies and a hug. We'll watch the rest from a distance.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (FsuaD)
http://tinyurl.com/p48nj7r
My view regarding politicians:
http://tinyurl.com/pf8m7bp
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (zyIlW)
Which means when the reckoning comes they eat the losses they earned and justice is done.
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 05:16 PM (ZbV+0)
********
Pretty sure Wall Street is old school corporatist bordering on fascist. They want to privatize gains and socialize losses.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 15, 2015 05:17 PM (tM4uk)
Two comments that I thought were dead on today and helped clarify some things for me.
Thanks smart people!
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (0dcbp)
The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (aftfH)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (zOTsN)
Dimjeff, you're EXPLODING, man.
Your pretended to be all cool and casual in this discussion.
But now your real and NASTY colors are giving you away.
So yeah: GIVE. UP.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: eureka! at September 15, 2015 08:02 PM (g1MTt)
Ditto. Although Walker has not impressed on the national stage.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 08:03 PM (LAe3v)
*pops more popcorn*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (FsuaD)
The 'Lion King' opening? Hated that effing song.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
..................
Is that what that is? Absolutely horrible. Turn that shit off every time never fail.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:01 PM (wAQA5)
I don't know what it is, but every time I would hear it it sounded like something from 'The Lion King.'
Beck's got shit taste in music. He had some Christmas crap recorded that made me want to kill people.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (oVJmc)
You should refamiliarize yourself with the new Ace banning policy because you are sitting right on it. I is located on the main page in the top right in red.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (t2KH5)
Speaking of movies, TCM showing WWII movies again. Just starting John Ford's The Long Voyage Home with John Wayne.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (igkah)
jeff, it's been explained to you at least a dozen times. You just don't want to accept the reasons.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (2SXh/)
No I get it.
You want to get rid of the GOP as it is currently constituted. They let you down - they let all of us down - with their fecklessness and their outright betrayal of conservative values. I get that. I really do. When the GOP fundraisers call me, I hang up on them too. I am done with giving them money or doing much of anything for them. Trump threatens the GOPe gravy train and that part is good. But if I want to get rid of the GOPe, I want the replacement to be at least somewhat better than what was replaced. On every major issue except immigration, Trump is to the left of every other candidate.
I am not a single-issue guy, I cannot support a candidate who is right on one issue but wrong on every other issue.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (2XMpf)
acqaint yourself with the side bar
the part where you dont personalize disagreement or you get banned
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (zOTsN)
The d*** did one of those "I'm sorry if you were offended" non-apologies.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (2XMpf)
*****
Then tell them to get off their dead asses and start generating some excitement for themselves.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (cygkw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bob Dole at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (Dwehj)
My Brother is someone who says he likes Amnesty and more immigration.
He is Liberal... works on the Calif High Speed Rail project...
Lives on a nice Southern Calif place, surrounded by a 12 Foot Wall... Gated... with an alarm system which will bring an ARMED response.
He and his are insulated from the consequences of his beliefs, by wealth...
Me and Mine??? are NOT insulated from the consequences of HIS beliefs...
Thus.... anger...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (qh617)
Imagine the Trump White House. The columns painted gold, nekkid statues on the lawn...
*pops more popcorn*
And when he moves it to Manhattan and adds a 100 story addition ... HYOOGE!
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:05 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Mallamutt, High School Guidance Counselor at September 15, 2015 08:06 PM (/HC6x)
it's only one faction - the Traitor Faction.
-- or at least oppose doing very much to stop it.
LOL. They are full steam ahead trying to shove illegals down our throats. As to legal immigration (which really means nothing to them since they are full-force giving aid and comfort to the illegal invasion) they think the whole friggin world has some right to "America" ... that our nation is property of the world. Of course, what else would one expect from traitors?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:06 PM (zc3Db)
1) He does not give a shit what people think of him. I like that. He has managed to bull his way through a lot of the crap that our politicians have built around themselves. I hope that rubs off.
2) I worry that he is not really a fiscal conservative. I would prefer taxes and regulations to be cut across the board. Right now he is getting uncomfortably close to a republican version of soak the rich. It does help somewhat that the people he is talking about soaking are New York limousine liberals and Hollywood types.
3) I worry he is an exemplar of style over substance. He is talking the talk, but is he equipped to walk? I do not know. However, the similarities with style over substance to the current President are a bit too eerie. I could be wrong here and he could hire some great guys to advise him and he just makes the top level decisions. I would be fine with that, but I do not know enough about the people he surrounds himself with to be able to judge.
4) His border stuff does make sense from the point of view of history. A country that can no longer control it's borders is not usually long for this world.
TL;DR: I am on the fence about the man, style does matter, but there has to be some substance beyond immigration reform some time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:06 PM (iHjB5)
I hear you. I can't respect anyone who voted for Obama. He's an idiot.
And one day he's going to say something so dumb there will be a collective facepalm around the globe. You know its going to happen.
But it doesn't much matter anymore, none of the others have much of a chance. One way or the other we get a Democrat.
Posted by: boy roy feed my boy at September 15, 2015 08:06 PM (WhfU/)
But I"m also angry at those people - not every Trump supporter, just those specific few - who confuse nationalism with conservatism, and demand that I as a conservative should support nationalist candidates just because we have some "duty" to do so. Well no I don't. I can tell the difference and I am not going to support a nationalist populist who has no principles, no convictions, and no idea what real conservatism is.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (2XMpf)
or rather it takes primacy over the others
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (zOTsN)
I think the explanation of the Trump phenomenon is that the Republican
base has FINALLY had enough with the Republican establishment. The GOP
voters hate their party's leadership, and the feeling is mutal.
I agree. However, my fear is that as with almost all
revolutions, the mob will take over and do stupid things, because the
cynical zealots who just want power will be in charge, and they know
that to make their bones, they must be more extreme than the next guy.
Coherent though becomes an afterthought, just as with DT.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 07:42 PM (LAe3v)"
The thing is that at this point really bad consequences from Obama's second term are pretty much inevitable. By really bad consequences I mean a nuclear war in the Mid East and the at least one nuclear weapon falling into the hands of somebody like ISIS or Al Qaeda and being used to turn an American city into radioactive fallout. When the next President takes office in January 2017, it will be too late to stop the forces that are in motion. So why not back an unserious candidate.
The damage is done and cannot be fixed. If "electable" Mitt Romney had run a better campaign or showed some of the nastiness that he was perfectly happy to use against fellow Republicans when he ran against Barack Obama, he could have turned the ship before it hit the iceberg but what happened happened and now the results are inevitable.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (QHgTq)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (2XMpf)
I think the key is that he may actually try to DO something about that one issue...
instead of the current line up in the GOP... who lose on EVERY issue...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (2SXh/)
286 Chemjeff that's your second comment in this thread where you personally insult people because they hold a different position than you.
There oughta be a law
Posted by: MAx at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
It's hard to see how that applies to Carly. She's gone from nothing to fairly high up in the pack. The trend looks good for her.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 08:07 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: donna at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (hUdMz)
I agree with most of that statement.
Jefe, beer?
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (2iV3X)
*pops more popcorn*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (FsuaD)
----
It'd be Caesar's Palace!
Slot machines in the bathrooms, secret service in gladiator armor, showgirls at the pressers...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (jR7Wy)
It's simple, attainable, and would be immensely helpful.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (OqR5R)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (TzeLs)
*pops more popcorn*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (FsuaD)
As someone mentioned last night, at least they would be marble columns and not styrofoam.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anna Puma
----
Recording it!
Love me some Duke!
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:09 PM (xWruu)
and as for illegals, i don't care if you're from Ireland or Ixtapa: if you are in the country illegally, you need to go. IDGAF what your excuse is, or how many children you have here, or what "repression" you face at home. you're a criminal.
GTFO and don't come back. there is no social benefit to welcoming a population who's first act on our soil was to break our laws.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 15, 2015 08:09 PM (pZtrP)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2015 08:09 PM (igkah)
It's simple, attainable, and would be immensely helpful.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (OqR5R)
That's good. I hadn't heard that. Even more helpful would be eliminating Federal financial aid.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:09 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (qh617)
Dimjeff, now that you've surrendered, let me guide you. Help you.
One of the main reason that Trump supporters are very happy about Trump's yuuuuge ascension is that TRUMP IS SERIOUS ABOUT ENDING THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION CRISIS.
No other candidate has really come close.
There are many conservatives who recognize that the movement (i.e., the conservative movement) is doomed if we allow for the continued dilution of our political process with third world immigrants who came here illegally.
So we support Trump.
It is YOU who is thoughtlessly incapable of recognizing this CONSERVATIVE priority.
Now do you see?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (2XMpf)
F him, sideways, with a tanker's bar wrapped up with 3 coils of concertina.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (pZtrP)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (TzeLs)
Jefe, beer?
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (2iV3X)
Well yes I am drinking beer
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (2XMpf)
Slot machines in the bathrooms, secret service in gladiator armor, showgirls at the pressers...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (jR7Wy)
Lol. "Trump's Palace" with the Marine guards in uniforms with lots and lots of gold braiding.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (a31sM)
Has been warned before. This is his schtick. How/why he hasn't been booted is anyone's guess.
And I've been tired of The Donald for months. I almost never even lurk the comments anymore.
Even worse, you can't have a damn gardening thread these days without someone trying to turn it into Trump!
I don't blame you guys/gals for staying out of them...
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (DgBcT)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (m9V0o)
If you listened to Rush today he said: It's not that the Republicans don't hear (understand) you; they do. They just don't care.
Listen to me very closely all of yous: The Republican party is going Moderate. If you're okay with this, keep voting for them.
But the Republican wants nothing to do with Conservatism, anymore. And by 2020, they will "come out" as Moderate and stop pretending.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (2SXh/)
A Nationalist is someone you think is a bit too into his country first. A Patriot is someone you think is just right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (2XMpf)
You seem to like Fiorina and she's wrong on every issue. I guess she gets your support on the technicality that she isn't even right on one issue ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (aftfH)
>>I wasn't aware Devo apologized.
..........................
Yeah, but it's OK, I told them to keep the flower pots.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Perfect.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (aftfH)
Trump can upset that, none of the other ones can.
Do I want Trump as President? At this particular time, that's not even a question-- the only certainty is that Jeb! (or picked alternate) must not be, and the only person who can destroy the plan is Trump.
Eliminate the party candidate(s) and then a more conventional one might have more appeal.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (WfHs6)
Did You say turnip? I like turnips....
Posted by: donna at September 15, 2015 08:12 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (zOTsN)
You can't call jeff names.
We all like jeff.
Argue with him, no name calling.
All you dummies, got that?
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: no running! at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (+6HJf)
I have no use for chemjeffs political insight but you need to take a hike.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:10 PM (2XMpf)
You didn't. I am as confounded by his statement as you are.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (FGIR8)
second term are pretty much inevitable. By really bad consequences I
mean a nuclear war in the Mid East and the at least one nuclear weapon
falling into the hands of somebody like ISIS or Al Qaeda and being used
to turn an American city into radioactive fallout. When the next
President takes office in January 2017, it will be too late to stop the
forces that are in motion. So why not back an unserious candidate.
The damage is done and cannot be fixed.
It is precisely because so much damage has been done that our next president have skills beyond being amusing and frat boyish.
You say it is to late to stop the forces in motion. You many be right. But things can always get worse, much worse, and having another malignant dilettante in the WH might well ensure that happens.
Posted by: pep at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (LAe3v)
With all due respect Vic @ comment # 334,
I was merely counter-punching Dimjeff for his claim that Trump supporters are "thoughtless".
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:14 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: mrburns at September 15, 2015 08:14 PM (1Arcq)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:14 PM (rjtGa)
We all like jeff.
Argue with him, no name calling.
All you dummies, got that?
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:13 PM (2SXh/)
Can I amend that to say lets all go back to being ultra civil?
This thread has been so... not nice that I've just been lurking.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (AkOaV)
Buzzion, did Dimjeff call Trump supporters thoughtless?
If he did. (And, yes, he did.)
Why should I as a Trump supporter have to pretend otherwise?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (l2dSQ)
It's simple, attainable, and would be immensely helpful.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
Will it matter much if the colleges simply decide that pre-screening is a-ok?
Say nothing of common core, have you heard of the new College Board's AP US History framework?
It doesn't take a tin-foiler to understand that public schools are being induced to use leftist pedagogy as a national standard.
You're grandkids won't graduate junior high without the right "attitude."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (JmGFJ)
There oughta be a law
Posted by: MAx
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Are you serious? You read a "personal insult" in any of that post?
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (DgBcT)
Still don't.
Maybe he should have a sip o' the whiskey.
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:14 PM (rjtGa)
Considering he's a recovered alcoholic that's probably a bad idea.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (FGIR8)
You can argue that some of what Trump is selling isn't conservatism.
But you can't argue that it isn't selling.
Look at the numbers for all of the candidates.
Coffee is for closers.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (0dcbp)
I actaully dont have a problem with people being "reflexively" nationalistic. Used to be called patriotism
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (zOTsN)
if Trump holds true on the illegal alien issue, that's more than i'll get from a RINO or a Demonrat President
and people wonder why he's popular.
it's simple: we KNOW the mainstream candidates are going to fuck us over, but there's a chance Donald won't.
advantage Trump.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 15, 2015 08:16 PM (pZtrP)
A Nationalist is someone you think is a bit too into his country first. A Patriot is someone you think is just right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (iHjB5)
So.... give me liberty, or give me death...
Now a days.... Nationalist?
We already know the 'Tree of Liberty' is verboten.... at least watering it...
Wearing an American Flag to school in Calif.... Nationalist? at least the courts seem to deem it so...
Just trying to find the dividing line here.... because Nationalist has somehow morphed into a YUGGGEEE insult...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 08:16 PM (qh617)
Stop with the Personal Attacks Based on Nothing More Than Disagreement
With Someone's Position, or Your Ass Will be Permanently Banned
Okay Ace. Where are you?
Chemjeff has been a long time poster here, and has always been nothing if not a nice guy.
I don't know who this person is calling himself Trump Super-fan, but it looks to me like he is doing exactly what you asked the rest of us not to do.
Ace, where are you?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:16 PM (+1T7c)
Okay, I'll stop the name calling.
Let's see if jeff will admit that he insulted Trump supporters by calling them thoughtless. And then apologize for it.
Jeff? Will you admit it? Will you apologize?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (l2dSQ)
Silly season.
Posted by: tipi at September 15, 2015 08:15 PM (Pu4RI)
Monday Night Rehabilitation!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (FGIR8)
332 Imagine the Trump White House. The columns painted gold, nekkid statues on the lawn...
*pops more popcorn*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (FsuaD)
----
It'd be Caesar's Palace!
Slot machines in the bathrooms, secret service in gladiator armor, showgirls at the pressers...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 15, 2015 08:08 PM (jR7Wy)
...................................
it's going to need about 65 more stories first
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (wAQA5)
=====
seriously for a moment:
this is where it's going. if you couldn't see that about 4 years ago, you weren't watching. the GOP is done, has been done since 2012. the only question was the nature of the replacement. I was gunning for a libertarian hybrid, but kinda figured it could go this way too.
there aren't any easy answers. the dems are going full commie, and probably the culture is going apeshit soon. it happens. societies do that, time to time.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (Cq0oW)
But the Republican wants nothing to do with Conservatism, anymore. And by 2020, they will "come out" as Moderate and stop pretending.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:11 PM (2SXh/)
Exactly. I've been saying that for the last few years. The Republican Party is becoming like the so-called "right" parties of Europe, who are thoroughly statist. Any citizen of a European country who actually believes in limited government and free market capitalism is SOL. He is politically homeless.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (sdi6R)
Okay, let's all stop being pussies. Buncha Glenn Becks in here.
Now let me tell you about blinds dot com...
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (2SXh/)
After promising to illegally smuggle Syrians in, he needs a padded room somewhere.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (xetep)
Posted by: donna
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If you can't beet 'em, join 'em.
* yes, stolen. But I found it funny.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (DgBcT)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (rjtGa)
Thank you for the insight into your infantile reasoning. Has your elementary school started, yet? You really shouldn't be up this late on a school night. Those finger paintings aren't going to do themselves.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (oVJmc)
Take off the hall monitor sash, and fuck off.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (JmGFJ)
It is good to be in a place where I can express myself and not be banned because I don't exactly toe the line.
We don't agree on Trump but I do believe you have sincere motivations and basically want what is best for this country. I thank you for that.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (aftfH)
Rather than fighting about Trump (a total waste of time, no one is changing their minds except on their own) we should start a pool on the order of how the also-rans leave the arena.
Though Pataki, Gilmore and Graham probably shouldn't count.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (rjtGa)
Posted by: donna
--------------'
If you can't beet 'em, join 'em.
* yes, stolen. But I found it funny.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (DgBcT)
We must root out this pun thief!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (FGIR8)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:18 PM (rjtGa)
Yuge, excellent, and world class, too.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (AkOaV)
Or more likely you wanted all of those things (Less government, lower taxes, etc.) and when you were able to put people in power who said they wanted the same things they did not even make the slightest pro forma motions to do anything about it.
Now those same people are tired and are extraordinarily mistrustful of anyone from the establishment. It has shown themselves to be their enemy in a way the dems never have- by lying to them, then betraying them.
I think most people at this point are in the boat of "Well, we cannot do shit about these dems ruining our country until we can at least get people we elect not to help them do it."
Trump offers an opportunity to blow up the establishment. So they follow him even if he may be squishy on other things, because his policies are not the goal, it is the destruction of that which betrayed them.
Petty? No.
Shortsighted? Not at all.
If you cannot trust the people you elect in a representative democracy, than you have every right to tell them to pound sand.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Marybel at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (mxd0k)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:20 PM (rjtGa)
Posted by: boy roy feed my boy at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (WhfU/)
They're paying him to be a spoiler and he's fully aware of that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (oVJmc)
Well, the more important question is -- would you ever put ketchup on a hot dog?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (zyIlW)
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Looking for limited government and free market capitalism in Europe is like looking for oxygen on the moon.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (wAQA5)
If Ace read his own blog's comment threads he'd realize they are a-blog-within-the-blog, and we covered this last Friday.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (2SXh/)
@ comment # 417:
Are you kidding?
I'm not the one calling for anyone to be banned.
I'm the one who pointed out there is no reason to respect someone who insults others for being "thoughtless".
I have not called for 'jeff's' banning - and I won't.
But I will absolutely punch back when I get punched.
What is your position, preciesely, wef cut-loop?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (l2dSQ)
This place would be much more fun if we formed a cartel. Ace could be El Jefe Moron or El Grande Ewok. Who's in? The guys get sombreros.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (rjtGa)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (oVJmc)
Let's see if jeff will admit that he insulted Trump supporters by calling them thoughtless. And then apologize for it.
Jeff? Will you admit it? Will you apologize?
I didn't call Trump supporters thoughtless.
What I said was:
"Trumpism isn't "nationalism without apology", it is "nationalism without thought"."
I was criticizing Trump's approach, not his supporters.
It is the difference between criticizing an idea, and criticizing the idea's advocate. They are not the same.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (2XMpf)
Sometimes the "joke" and "crazy" candidate starts looking a whole lot more "real" and "rational" due to his opponents proving his point.
If they keep this up we might actually have President Trump.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (q52Ma)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (AkOaV)
That's disgusting ... and blasphemous, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (aftfH)
So, he is "rescuing" Syrians and asking for donations (or something...maybe teddy bears). Embrace the crazy.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (9XthY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (zc3Db)
::nods::
yessir.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (AkOaV)
It is good to be in a place where I can express myself and not be banned because I don't exactly toe the line.
We don't agree on Trump but I do believe you have sincere motivations and basically want what is best for this country. I thank you for that.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:19 PM (2XMpf)
Thanks. I disagreed with what you were saying but I never would have made it personal, even without the banning policy. I was getting very annoyed with the name-calling.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (rjtGa)
Beck started losing me when he began with the Americana artifacts shit.
Like he'd get a historical document or George Washington's britches and he'd gush over them for hours.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:23 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: t-bird at September 15
That makes 2 of us in that club. My membership was free.,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (l2dSQ)
NEVER punch down!!!
Posted by: Zombie Someguy at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (zc3Db)
Answer: oh that's just Trump being Trump.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (e3JIL)
436
This place would be much more fun if we formed a cartel. Ace could be El Jefe Moron or El Grande Ewok. Who's in? The guys get sombreros.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:22 PM (iQIUe)
We will need a plethora of pinatas
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (z/Ubi)
George Washington had mad bitches though, so that's not saying much.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (AkOaV)
I hold in my hand George Washington's knob from his saddle...
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:25 PM (rjtGa)
They're paying him to be a spoiler and he's fully aware of that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (oVJmc)
Wasn't aware. What's that all about?
Thanks.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:25 PM (1Y+hH)
of view of history. A country that can no longer control it's borders is
not usually long for this world.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:06 PM (iHjB5)
A country that chooses not control its borders is
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 08:25 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:25 PM (2SXh/)
Sounds like the name of a Moody Blues song.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky
Or, the enemy of my enemy is? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
*kicks Max's gimp-ass leg*
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (JmGFJ)
but your super screamy all caps poo flinging is tedious
stop
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (zOTsN)
BRITCHES, I said.
As in undies.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:25 PM (2SXh/)
OOooooh, yeah that makes more sense.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (AkOaV)
does better under Democrat administrations, that self deportation
measures are malicious, that he would continue to fund Planned
Parenthood, that he bashes Rand Paul by praising Ron Paul, that he would
love to have Oprah as his running mate, that he said assault weapons
only needed by police and criminals and a hundred other asinine
statements?
Insert "Romney" for Trump and add "Invented Obamacare" and you would have a very close match.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (0dcbp)
Yeah, 'jeff', @ comment # 418,
Are you going to play the part of PRETENDER, here?
Are you going to PRETEND that you didn't insult Trump supporters by calling them thoughtless?
Others may have missed your insult when you posted your comment # 73.
But I didn't.
Let's see if you can own up to it.
Or are you going to PRETEND to be all nice and smiley face?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: eleven at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (rjtGa)
Ooo, ooo, I know this one! It's the Laffer Curve!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (FGIR8)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (wAQA5)
Wasn't aware. What's that all about?
Graham's from South Carolina. He's in it to soak up enough of the primary vote in that first southern state to blunt any success by a conservative candidate that will carry them into Super Tuesday the next week.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (oVJmc)
Wasn't aware. What's that all about?
Thanks.
Posted by: Meremortal at September
So where's he getting his funding? Thad Fucking Cochran?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:17 PM (l2dSQ)
Oi. Shut up.
Actual chemjeff quote is: '[Trumpism] is "nationalism without thought".'
Do you see a reference to Trump supporters in there? Because there isn't. It's describing chemjeff's idea of Trumpism, another idea.
And I say this as someone who likes Trump and wants him to Burn It.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (aftfH)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (iHjB5)
Most of my hillbilly kinfolk give more to charity in a month than my gated-neighborhood, left-wing ex-inlaws give in a year.
Posted by: Furious George at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (HpEBw)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Insomniac
---------------
Well, let's not parsnip words! You wanna dance!?!
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (DgBcT)
I'm late to the party, but I would still love you if you supported Obama. I would ponder what possessed you, but respect that you have opinions, and are welcome to express them.
I admit, though, that I would vote for the beet, turnip or rutabaga that ran opposite the Democrats, so there is that.
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (x303I)
Can you just imagine if the (R) could steal New York?
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (l2dSQ)
Banned under the new no-personal attacks no-assholes policy. Not even a close call.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (l2dSQ)
So what? I am in total disagreement with chemjeff on Trump but it doesn't matter to me what he says about Trump's supporters. And it shouldn't matter to you, either. You really shouldn't care what anyone says about the supporters of anyone. Why do you care what someone else thinks of you? I don't.
Just let chemjeff be.
Carry on, now.
Posted by: Zombie Someguy at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (zc3Db)
Romney was a decent man, a very smart and able man, probably would have done a decent job as President, but he was not a conservative man. He did have some conservative ideas.
And this is about what William Buckley said about George W. Bush in 2000.
The Republican Party is not necessarily conservative, but then again, what is it? It's ideology is nowhere, or all over the map. The Party has no idea WHAT it stands for.
There are ideological conservatives, practical conservatives, people who live a modest and conservative personal life. Most are just asking the government to leave them alone.
The Federal Government won't do that, and has no intention of doing that. It's Corporatism. It's not so much Left or Right, but just a continuing interest in manipulating people to to the bidding of government, through the place you work and live. The Government has recruited Business (and Unions) to help them in their bidding. This is Corporatism, because many have acceeded to this.
Government is something we do together; that's a Democrat trope. No, government is supposed to guarantee our liberty, freedom, property and live within restraints.
I don't know what Donald Trump believes, but the vibe he is giving off is making people think that he believes some of this stuff, which is better than most of the other candidates in either party. Cruz is the only one that intellectually understands what is at stake and can articulate exactly what has to be done. So he is ignored. The Media and the Corporatists are truly worried about him.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (x303I)
***WE WILL NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, HAVE ANOTHER RUTABAGA THREAD.***
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (zc3Db)
What do Trump advocates say when you point out Trump said....
Posted by: Max Rockatansky
"Los hispanos contribuyen cada día mas a nuestra cultura, son parte integral del sueño americano. Por esos motivos y mas, yo los invito a que celebren el mes de la herencia hispana, porque todos somos Americanos!"
*drops mic*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September
But you're my kind of racist. Prost
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (vM+YG)
Or are you going to PRETEND to be all nice and smiley face?
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:26 PM (l2dSQ)
From a Trump fan to the Trump Super-Fan. Cut it out. And apologize for unnecessary escalation, if you're man enough.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (aftfH)
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 08:16 PM (qh617)
I don't think it is an insult per se. I do think the 'nationalist' label implies a lack of serious consideration of an issue. It is much like a default position to support the status quo - a person might support the status quo because 'it works' no matter how imperfectly, because that person hasn't given any serious consideration or thought as to how to fix it. It can border on status quo bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias) where one just irrationally and emotionally supports the status quo despite any rational argument to the contrary. I think nationalism is similar to this. It is a preference for a nation's interests despite any sort of impact on larger interests or the consideration of any hierarchy of interests. For example, an extreme nationalist might say that the US should never sign any international treaties because by definition a treaty cedes some sovereignty to an international body, while most other people would say that sometimes treaties, even if they might cede national sovereignty, can sometimes be worth it in the pursuit of a larger more worthy goal, such as for instance having an international ban on slavery. That is how I see it anyway.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (2XMpf)
No, 'jeff', @ comment # 440.
It's a distinction without a difference.
You want to pretend like you weren't insulting Trump supporters.
And it's clear you were.
Now you want to play victim. (And sadly there are some here who will apparently will support you in that role.)
You are a PRETENDER, sir. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (DfCQN)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:30 PM (0NdlF)
Oooh, methinks there shalt be no apology. Maet seems to have given him a time out.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo
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If progtard is a race, then I wonder where they fall on that whole bell curve thing.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (xWruu)
Now I'm stuck wondering WTF I'm supposed to do with all these overpriced collectible gold coins and this pre-1989 pickup truck.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: steevy at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (sPO3u)
454
Do we get afternoon siestas?
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:27 PM (wAQA5)
=========
Siestas, camisas, cervezas, y sombreros!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (zOTsN)
Banning people is gay.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 15, 2015 08:29 PM (pAlYe)
That was a bit harsh ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (zc3Db)
{{{chemjeff}}}}
I'm late to the party, but I would still love you if you supported
Obama. I would ponder what possessed you, but respect that you have
opinions, and are welcome to express them.
I admit, though, that I would vote for the beet, turnip or rutabaga that ran opposite the Democrats, so there is that.
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (x303I)
Aww that is sweet
Thank you for that and i hope you and your daughter are doing well!But don't worry, the only way I would ever vote for Obama is if the zombie apocalypse had occurred and I was a zombie myself.
(no offense to our valued commenter zombie)Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: dartist
----
You have a mellow dude who has been harshed?
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:32 PM (xWruu)
I'd rather use ketchup than sauerkraut.
*ducks, runs*
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:31 PM (wAQA5)
And this is why no one would ever trust ME with the ban hammer, cuz that right there should be a bannable offense.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jack at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (oVJmc)
They're paying him to be a spoiler and he's fully aware of that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (oVJmc)
Maybe that was the original plan, but I heard a few days ago that in SC there was overwhelming support (a poll?) that he should drop out.
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (hgBpU)
Take the night off, because you're about to be banned.
No, you can't take chemjeff's line that Trumpism is "nationlism without thought" and turn that into a "direct insult against you" and then parlay that into a dozen insulting troll posts.
You'll just have to grow a thicker skin, you mewling baby.
Like I said, take the night off, because the next post I see from you gets a ban.
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (DgBcT)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (2SXh/)
Conservative Monster,
From one Trump Supporter to another. I have nothing to apologize for.
And I cannot fake one when it would be inappropriate to do so.
I would urge you not to buy into the 'jeff's' make-pretend victim status.
He openly insulted Trump supporters, and I called him out on it.
That shouldn't be a problem. - Even for non supporters.
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:34 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:34 PM (aftfH)
Posted by: Marybel at September 15, 2015 08:34 PM (mxd0k)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (AkOaV)
o.O
Punch yourself.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (kGWsl)
Posted by: Mallamutt, High School Guidance Counselor at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (0dcbp)
I feel so sorry for you, Betas.
Why don't you take martial arts or get a gym membership or something? Something that's actually masculine, instead of bitching out people on the internet and calling yourself a warrior for doing so.
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen
Racist? I thought you hated everybody?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (kGWsl)
Well, I sure could use a good ass kicking right about now, that's for sure.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (AkOaV)
SC there was overwhelming support (a poll?) that he should drop out.
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (hgBpU)
Well, that would be nice, but I'm doubtful he'll do it.Thankfully, the careful plans for this primary season have been upset...
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:35 PM (0dcbp)
groan.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (AkOaV)
She is rocking organic chemistry and biostatistics. Loves the stuff. She is also working with the university's audio/visual tech staff, and is learning to make her own sound systems. My house is a wreck, but she is happy. Therefore, I am happy. God is good, and we are doing good.
Hope your semester is going well. Hugs to you!
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (x303I)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (2SXh/)
I think the slow response encourages him/her/it.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: BamaBubba at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (vKTRb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (dciA+)
Just be careful, ace, we'd hate for you to accidentally ban yourself again.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (2XMpf)
And how many others, like me, who didn't actually say anything were thinking it?
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (4z/cg)
I don't know what happened to him. He was normal enough on CNN (or wherever). Started off okay on Fox.
Then... WHOA.
I almost don't want to make fun of the guy because... I don't know, something seems off.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (AkOaV)
I think the slow response encourages him/her/it.
Yeah, he poops smears Kilgore-esque screeds all over the blog. Someone really needs to be around to send the lightning the minute he raises his head.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:36 PM (dciA+)
-- That was decent of Ace. Now everybody calm ta fk down
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (TzeLs)
http://bit.ly/1iNvMOx
Florida Down on Bush, Rubio Campaigns
PPP's new Florida poll finds that a plurality of voters in the state think that both Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio should drop out.
Only 40% of voters in the state think Bush should keep running, compared to 47% who think he should drop out. And the numbers are similar for Rubio with just 42% believing he should continue on with his campaign to 48% who believe he should end it.
The lack of enthusiasm for Bush and Rubio's candidacies is reflected in the Republican primary numbers in the state. Donald Trump has a wide lead at 28% with Ben Carson second at 17%. Bush (13%) and Rubio (10%) can only achieve 3rd and 4th place standings in their home state. Ted Cruz at 9%, Carly Fiorina at 7%, and John Kasich at 5% round out the candidates with any meaningful level of support.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (aftfH)
But IF he were to win the GOP nomination, I would vote for him. That's more than I can say about Jeb.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (vM+YG)
Anyone know who Ace is calling a beta??
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (2SXh/)
Just be careful, ace, we'd hate for you to accidentally ban yourself again.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (AkOaV)
*chokes nearly to death laughing*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (FsuaD)
And how many others, like me, who didn't actually say anything were thinking it?
...
he got his Warning, next time is the Ban.
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (/HC6x)
Anyone know who Ace is calling a beta??
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (2SXh/)
Our now unbanned friend from upthread.
Well, probably all of us really. But that's okay. I embrace it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rickl
THINK LOUDER!!!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (+1T7c)
To participate in the South Carolina Republican presidential primary, candidates are required to file and pay a non-refundable certification fee of $40,000 before Sept. 30, 2015
Democracy. Of a sort.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (4z/cg)
Oh man, can we start a SuperPAC that raises money to pay Jeb to drop out?
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (2XMpf)
517
I knew that was going to be an extremely controversial statement, but I feel safe from personal attacks due to blog policy.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (wAQA5)
Some people seem to go through massive personality changes when exposed to medication. I have always wondered if it is just a certain genetic lottery and you get medicated and whammo!, you are a different person.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (iHjB5)
my definition of nationalism is the expectation that a rational nation state acts in its self interest
and sometimes that means entering treaties
and sometimes not
I think your defiinition requires a irrational fanaticism
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (zOTsN)
http://tinyurl.com/qzchy25
No teddy bears for illegals, tho.
Suck it Beck.
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (hgBpU)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (AkOaV)
*chokes nearly to death laughing*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:40 PM (FsuaD)
Does anyone remember what ace banned himself over?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (0NdlF)
Greinke is having one hell of a year.
What happened to Jhonny Cueto, though?
Does this look like a Baseball thread?
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (2SXh/)
"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"
To ourselves and our Posterity ... and no one else. That is who our Constitution was written for. This ain't rocket science. Heck, it ain't even model rocket science.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:39 PM (2SXh/)
Gay people who gayly bitch about gay blog rules mostly.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (pAlYe)
How many different ways are there to say it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (wAQA5)
Yes, yes, you're verrry lucky. As soon as that policy is lifted though -- wow, will the insults fly.
THEY WILL FLY.
You just wait.
But in the meantime, enjoy your disgusting tomato paste smothered meat.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (AkOaV)
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Root vegetable puns?
Let me try to come up with one that's 24 carrot...
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (DgBcT)
Yes, I see most of that. There's a lot there that sounds libertarian, but that's interesting not off-putting in this context. Perhaps it demonstrates the common ground that exists.
I'm hoping that after Trump prepares the battlefield throughout the countryside and the media, he hands off to Cruz. It's very early and people are getting way too excited about everything. I blame the internet.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (0NdlF)
I think he personally attacked himself in a non organic way IIRC.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ace at September 15, 2015 08
Some people have all the luck.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (aftfH)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:43 PM (oVJmc)
How does a lesbian become... accidentally busty?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (4z/cg)
He is now but for so many years he was right on point on just about every issue. It is truly sad to see the pathetic state he's fallen to. Truly sad.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (zc3Db)
Is the USS New Hampshire available for the next rally?
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (n6Nt0)
Posted by: Insomniac
---------------
Well, let's not parsnip words! You wanna dance!?!
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (DgBcT)
Not really. I yam not much for dancing.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (FGIR8)
Quitting the Republican party is what all the cool kids are doing these days.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (pX2ni)
Speaking of baseball...I was thinking about how "records" in baseball might not be a big deal.
They play so many games. So many At-Bats. So many pitches. The Probability of things happening is quite high, really.
David Ortiz hit 500 homerums. And so did 26 people before him. No-hitters is another one.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (4z/cg)
It was a dark, dark time. Nothing more frustrating than lurking and being unable to comment. Argh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (FsuaD)
But IF he were to win the GOP nomination, I would vote for him. That's more than I can say about Jeb.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen
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That about sums it up.
Nothing left to say.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (n6Nt0)
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (pAlYe)
Almost fag like or is that too much?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:41 PM (wAQA5)
LOL.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (zc3Db)
How many different ways are there to say it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:42 PM (W5DcG)
We can make a game where everybody names the dumbest/most insane thing that Beck has said or done.
For me, it's a tie between the time he was interviewing Rick Santorum and declared him to be our new George Washington, or the time that he announced that he is allergic to all food.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (2XMpf)
well, it'd be a little tight on the sub, but I'm sure Trump could fill the room pretty easily.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (oVJmc)
Trump is not a good man, but if he fires a lot of people and picks the right Cabinet he could be a good President.
There' s a lot of baggage in that 'if'.
Posted by: Roger Fuckbythenavel (ex Devoceleraptor, ex JEM) at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:37 PM (4z/cg)
I don't know what happened to him. He was normal enough on CNN (or wherever). Started off okay on Fox.
Then... WHOA.
I almost don't want to make fun of the guy because... I don't know, something seems off.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:38 PM (AkOaV)
I can't believe I actually liked watching him. His FOX gig was very good, at first. His information was on point and factual.
Now, come to find out that even that was stolen from blogs with attribution and he comes flat out and calls most of the audience that came out to that rally fucking racist?
FU Beck. Your time is done.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (kGWsl)
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:28 PM (DgBcT)
Not really. I yam not much for dancing.
You cassava it both ways.
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (aftfH)
I never realized I hated Jeb Bush before this campaigning season.
I am grateful that Trump torpedoed that sandwich.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (n6Nt0)
The comments seem to be showing up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (iHjB5)
Well, probably all of us really. But that's okay. I embrace it.
Posted by: mynewhandle
You're only a Beta if you think you're a Beta.
Really, I read the posts during the days sometimes, and the amount of rage is almost..... laughable. I mean it.
I'm not ignorant of what is happening, and don't blame people for being mad, but really, raging about it in front of anonymous people on the internet sounds like another day at the Daily Kos (those people are all knucking futz). People here are better than that. Being casually insulting and obnoxious is one thing, really attacking another commenter here is what Ace is trying to stop.
We can choose not to be shitty with each other. I see Chemjeff's point, and not being prescient (play on words here), I don't really know what Trump is thinking or planning to do.
He's a populist, a nationalist. He may be full of it, he may know what he's doing.
We'll all know more in a few months, before the actual primary voting begins.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (TzeLs)
How about when he was going blind and cried about how he'd never be able to read again?
Then he got hipster glasses and got better I guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (AkOaV)
The sentiment seems to be that Mr. Beck is more crazy and evil than most in recent history. He definitely has some issues. But is he being thrown to the lions?
I kinda get where he's coming from, I don't agree with him, but the level of attack only seems justified if he is still considered a valid voice. Is he? If not, let him go fight his windmills.
Bigger fish to fry.
Posted by: GBruno at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Ha!
And did I just see Carol back on board?
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (DgBcT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (kGWsl)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: chemjeff
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I know you said you will not respond to trumpgendered persons such as myself, but just let me make the point: immigration is not like the other issues. It's an existential issue, and a pressing one at that. Unless it is solved asap, progress on any other issue will be impossible, since we will always be outvoted. We will have had our sovereignty stolen from us. It's just a matter of urgency, of priorities. So stop with the trumpphobia already. We trumpies are people too.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (45reg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:49 PM (FsuaD)
How does a lesbian become... accidentally busty?
Not sure, but I will continue research.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (oVJmc)
Keep up the good work!
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:49 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 08:49 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (AVEe1)
The Trump Channel (CNN) seems to be on commercial break on my television set.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (AkOaV)
I quit listening because of the crying, frankly. He's weak.
His funny stuff can be very good though.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (nL0sw)
----
I think he's smearing gravy on himself and leaping at the lions.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (hgBpU)
I kept browser to pay bill only.
Posted by: Carol at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (n6Nt0)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (0dcbp)
FU Beck. Your time is done.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 15, 2015 08:46 PM (kGWsl)
I haven't listened to his radio show in years. While travelling I will listen to local shows or even Brian Kilmeade FFS
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (FGIR8)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (zOTsN)
I think Trump/Fiorina, Trump/Carson would be acceptable. Trump/Cruz would be an interesting one because it would be a smart choice, in my opinion.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (iHjB5)
Hilliary V Trump
They said if I voted I'd get a corporatist, wanna be despot, narcissist with delusions of grandeur whod govern in a manner indistinguishable from hard fascism and they were right.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (xetep)
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Perhaps it's actually a busty girl who accidentally became lesbian.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (xWruu)
It was a dark, dark time. Nothing more frustrating than lurking and being unable to comment. Argh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:45 PM (FsuaD)
I seem to remember a "Free Jane" movement in the dim past, perhaps that was it?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Someone said "lesbian."
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:52 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:51 PM (1Y+hH)
T'was. Remember when all the buttons on the blog worked? Sigh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Someone said "lesbian."
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:52 PM (xWruu)
Yep, that'll do it. Every single time.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (FGIR8)
But, almost every week something happens in baseball that has never happened before. It is an amazing game that way.
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (4z/cg)
I think he started to argue with himself.
Soon, the personal insults started to fly.
Next thing you know.........BAM!!!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (VPLuQ)
I just saw an ad for a remake of The Jungle Book. A few scenes (Monkeys charging Baloo, Mowgli in a herd of stampeding buffalo) look like they might incorporate some of the stuff Kipling actually wrote. That'd be a change...
Trailer is set up as an action movie, which is kind of what the book was.
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:53 PM (FsuaD)
OMG, yes. It was like being on the Jetsons set.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (ucDmr)
Fiorina believes and global warming and thinks cap and trade is the answer. She also is on record as thinking Islam was the "greatest civilization". She sucked as CEO. Carson is on record as supporting amnesty and claiming that deportation is "the moral low road", Carson is also against the 2nd amendment. So. They both suck. Cruz I can do BUT he does love him some H1B visas and his wifey works for Goldman Sachs...
Trump should choose Ann Coulter or someone from his inner circle.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (xetep)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:47 PM (AkOaV)
Just one of many miraculous recoveries. At least he hasn't (yet) announced that God will strike him down unless 1 million people each send in $10 so he can go to that river in Texas.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (iQIUe)
And now, let's play TIC TAC DOUGH!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (W5DcG)
trumpgendered persons such as myself, but just let me make the point:
immigration is not like the other issues. It's an existential issue, and
a pressing one at that. Unless it is solved asap, progress on any other
issue will be impossible, since we will always be outvoted. We will
have had our sovereignty stolen from us. It's just a matter of urgency,
of priorities. So stop with the trumpphobia already. We trumpies are
people too.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 15, 2015 08:48 PM (45reg)
Please understand, when I criticize Trump, I am criticizing Trump, not his supporters. I understand there are good reasons to support Trump, he is indisputably right on immigration, but in my opinion that alone is not enough for me to support him. I'm sure even you can agree that while Trump may be a good person he is not without his faults.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (W5DcG)
I don't recall Obama ever talking about sealing the border or deporting illegal aliens. That's one difference between them off the top of my head.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (fwj47)
Yes.
Trump/Generic RINO Stooge for the win!
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (zc3Db)
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Hollywood thinks novelists just write cool titles. If those titles become famous enough, then they decide to make a movie.
Sometimes the producer reads the blurb on the dust jacket and then relays what he can remember of it to the screenwriter.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (xWruu)
657 Trump/O'Reilly ticket. Thoughts?
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The debates with Sanders/Oprah would be epic.
Posted by: Methos at September
My new book would be, "killing them all"
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (vM+YG)
#twoweeks
And the great "&" drought of '13
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 15, 2015 08:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
Posted by: wooga at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (t5sHJ)
Bob Barker.
And remember, always spay or neuter your pets.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (pX2ni)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (ucDmr)
that is one helluva backdrop!
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 08:55 PM (2SXh/)
Here, let me ruin that for you:
https://youtu.be/BsKbwR7WXN4
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Deez Nutz/Couch Fucker 2016 at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 08:58 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 08:54 PM (xetep)
Ann Coulter as VP! I love it! Because when life can imitate Sharknado 3, I'm all aboard!
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 15, 2015 08:58 PM (AC0lD)
Trump/O'Reilly ticket. Thoughts?
Bloviation Nation
Posted by: Mortimer at September 15, 2015 08:50 PM (0dcbp)
............................
They might have trouble keeping it pithy.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 08:58 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (AkOaV)
And picture O'Reilly in a Trump baseball cap.
*stares at stray piece of dust on desk*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (FsuaD)
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Pie.
Posted by: wooga at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (t5sHJ)
Or wedding cake.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (0NdlF)
Fuck Matheson.
"I Am Legend" is now about the Bob Marley album.
Posted by: Will Smith at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (t5sHJ)
Well, the gf was pretty good looking and she was a famous lesbian or what they called a "shadow" which was a euphanism for lesbain. So, if you read the word shadow in the tabloids it was a wink wink kind of think.
Anyways, everybody was an effin lesbo back then. I used wiki and it was link after link after link. Hwd - LesboWood. Then there were all the filthy rich lesbians in europe whose families had billions. If you had money you pretty much did what you wanted to do.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
There isn't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (AkOaV)
answer. She also is on record as thinking Islam was the 'greatest
civilization'. She sucked as CEO."
And tried to paper over her bad CEO record by firing a metric shit-ton of citizen HP employees, replacing them with imported H-1B coolie coders.
Democrats brought that up repeatedly during Fiasco-rina's Senate bid here, and she got _pounded_ at the polls.
People not from Commiefornia don't realize what a flawed, crappy candidate she actually is. She's Mitt Romney 2.0.
"Carson is on record as supporting
amnesty and claiming that deportation is 'the moral low road', Carson is
also against the 2nd amendment."
Dr. Ben Carson == Colin Powell, M.D..
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (noWW6)
Hungry is forced to 'detain' the undesirables because Germany won't take them.
Posted by: Karl Bogendegia at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (ya7Eg)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
****
Not a thing. I grew up in Chicago, and that's what I use.
Burn the Heretic!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (2z4UX)
Posted by: Marybel at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (mxd0k)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (DbPPQ)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
There isn't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 08:59 PM (vM+YG)
Not to personally attack anyone, but if I were to hypothetically attack anyones choice of condiments, I would probably say something along the lines of "only American hating commies would put tomato paste derivatives on a hot dog".
(what's the horde think? Safe on that one, or cutting it too close?)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (AkOaV)
Remember when all the buttons on the blog worked? Sigh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Making witty remarks using the superscript and subscript buttons.
Of course, that was before the White Man came to this land, when the Indian and the Buffalo Spirit roamed the Prairie...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (zOTsN)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Le_Gallienne
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (/HC6x)
...Did I just get banned?
Aw, hell. I need to get back to work anyway.
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (xWruu)
Sometimes the producer reads the blurb on the dust jacket and then relays what he can remember of it to the screenwriter.
Heh. I recall reading somewhere that when Disney decided to make a cartoon of Alexander's The Black Caldron Walt specifically instructed the writers NOT to read the book...
The result was not pretty: The Black Caldron is the one big Disney animated film that was a flop and is pretty much forgotten today.
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (hgBpU)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2XMpf)
so, who is this candidate ?
Posted by: dDan at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (hwYmz)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (ucDmr)
And remember, always spay or neuter your pets.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (pX2ni)
Thanks. I remembered right after I typed it. I hope someone neutered barker ... though that was a funny scene. There's actually a guy at the long drive competition who uses a happy Gilmore swing - fastest clubhead speed of all of them (155 mph).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Obammy at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (TzeLs)
Now I'm thinking Europe is forever changed, and don't want to risk being in a High Muzzie area while traveling and being blown to pieces by a practitioner of the Religion of Peace.
Looking at Alaska for next year.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (FsuaD)
And this is why some of us are with Trump.
His guest speaker, head of a veteran's group, is saying things, bold things, that you will NEVER hear at another candidate's rally.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (2SXh/)
I don't think I ask for too much when I say I want a candidate who can
actually give a coherent speech and demonstrate the capacity to think
critically about any issue.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2XMpf)
Why start now....?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:01
Since its you, I would safe.,I suppose you don't use kraut either.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: chemjeff
I actually think that Trump is a real SOB, in a lot of ways. And really, not a "good person" in the way that you are, chemjeff.
But we may need a real SOB and an ass-kicker to try and fix the mess we're in.
That's one of the reasons Nixon got elected in 1968. Nobody thought he was a nice guy (politically); the "New Nixon" was just bumper -sticker stuff. But the country was in a real mess in 1968, and Nixon did get some important stuff fixed, even if it was only for a while.
Nixon loved Pat, his wife, which is more than you could say for a lot of politicians and their wives. I remember her funeral, and Nixon was sobbing like a baby, and the Media just made fun of him. And Kennedy and Camelot and Jackie just make me puke; they were such lying phonies.
Most people in politics are not nice guys. They smile at you and want to kiss the babies, but most of them are snakes. Look at Bill Clinton, and his alter -ego, Carvile.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (+1T7c)
I don't think I ask for too much when I say I want a candidate who can
actually give a coherent speech and demonstrate the capacity to think
critically about any issue.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 07:55 PM (2XMpf)
so, who is this candidate ?
Posted by: dDan at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (hwYmz)
Well Jindal, certainly. Of this there is no doubt.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (2XMpf)
Woman could burn water.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: dDan at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (hwYmz)
Vermin Supreme 2016!
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:04 PM (AkOaV)
(what's the horde think? Safe on that one, or cutting it too close?)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:01 PM (AkOaV)
Truth is an acceptable defense.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:04 PM (zc3Db)
If there were anyone else who spoke as forcefully as Trump on immigration, I wouldn't support him for many of the reasons you list (for example, if Sessions were running that would be preferable).
And I know you weren't attacking Trump supporters, I just couldn't resist parodying the hypersensitive tranny histrionics.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 15, 2015 09:04 PM (45reg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:04 PM (zc3Db)
And so it is ruled.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:04 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:00 PM (2XMpf)
apologies for last post, should've kept on reading.
thank you
Posted by: dDan at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (hwYmz)
520 Graham's in until after South Carolina.
They're paying him to be a spoiler and he's fully aware of that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:21 PM (oVJmc)
Maybe that was the original plan, but I heard a few days ago that in SC there was overwhelming support (a poll?) that he should drop out.
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 08:33 PM (hgBpU)
Graham is in it because like all the others he is an egomaniac that wants to be president. I believe the people backing him were doing so because they think having him in could dilute or disrupt the South Carolina primary enough that if a non-establishment candidate were to win it wouldn't be as clean a victory as they would like that they could use to build momentum with. That could of course be all thrown out the window now.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:02 PM (ucDmr)
According to our kid, the Style Guide is Aloha Snackbar.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (FsuaD)
Just exactly what is the problem with ketchup on a hot dog?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
............................
Pssst. Salsa. Not ketchup. Salsa.
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (wAQA5)
Fry those dogs up good and brown, ketchup, mayo, and some chili to top it off.
Time for a Kitchen trip.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (4vXIq)
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When HBO was making the miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon," they brought in an actual astronaut (I think it was Dave Scott... or Scott Carpenter... or Montgomery Scott, I don't remember) as an expert consultant.
He said to the writers, "This is your chance to put this all down for posterity, so you should just put in the things that actually happened." The writers told him, "That's an interesting concept... but..."
Posted by: RKae at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (xWruu)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (vM+YG)
Kraut is acceptable.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:05 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: freaked at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (4vXIq)
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There isn't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model
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Heathen! It's like I don't even know you, man.
No wonder you were banned!
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (NaeCR)
What's German for "Tits or GTFO"?
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (EHU9F)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Illya Kuryakan at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (hgBpU)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (MbrzC)
Probably so. Pity, as the book is a classic that has never been done right, IMHO.
My Dad used to read them to us after dinner, along with a bunch of other good stuff.
Posted by: Grey Fox at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (bZ7mE)
I'm guessing less than six months.
Hopefully before we give the Democrats another four to eight years by nominating this left wing big government clown, anyway.
Posted by: DRayRaven at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (q4f8l)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (AkOaV)
All of the candidates assumed serious immigration enforcement was clearly outside the Window, certainly McCain's 'build the damned wall' was now even off limits if everybody knows you are lying (like McCain clearly was). So we were unhappily picking candidates based on the remaining issues.
Then Trump picked up that flag, waved it around and, somehow he moved the Overton Window, and suddenly it wasn't off limits any more. We rallied to that flag even with doubts about Trump's sincerity because once Immigration became an issue in the campaign he was instantly the only candidate actually asking for our vote.
You can't stop Trump by insults directed at him. You can't stop him by insulting his voters. You can't bring up his defects, we know. He is the only ship in the sector, you have to change that reality. Another candidate must seize the issue from him and challenge him on the basis of who is better suited to bear that banner. Take the immigration from him and he becomes beatable.
Or you must raze the ground so utterly that you push the Window back left and make immigration untouchable again. Which would require out Trumping Trump. Good luck with that.
Posted by: John Morris at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (sCRhB)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (e3JIL)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (EHU9F)
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My understanding has been it's almost but not quite as worthless.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: steevy at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (2XMpf)
Unfortunately, he's Constitutionally ineligible. And you have to forget Rubio (though he should have been thrown into the trash heap years ago) and Cruz on the same criterion. Doesn't leave much.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 09:06 PM (NaeCR)
Heh, nah my girlfriend tells me he is some reality tv outdoors guy or something.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:09 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (e3JIL)
He doesn't have to walk on egg shells, he's just being, you know, nice.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:09 PM (AkOaV)
Annnnd Trump is live at the Battleship Iowa rally.
Rained all day, but the clouds broke and the sun came out in time for the speech.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 09:09 PM (kdS6q)
-Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:57 PM (oVJmc)
That was Peter Tomarken.
...who eventually died in a small plane crash around 2004.
-whammy
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (OQ9R7)
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Heathen! It's like I don't even know you, man.
No wonder you were banned!
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015
Go eat your grits.
All beef, natural casing hot dog. Ketchup, onion & kraut.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: DRayRaven at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (q4f8l)
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Do worry, no matter what happens a left wing big government clown will be elected.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: cajun caret at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (++b9A)
Good analysis. I believe they'll try to raze the ground.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (s/yC1)
Jeebus. Please, people. Let's please not elect another "personality."
And I say this with all due respect for those who are 100% sold on Trump.
I'm still on the fence. If I have to, I'll pull the lever for him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:10 PM (vM+YG)
Try brown mustard, onion & kraut -- no ketchup.
It will change your life.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (AkOaV)
Sickening that chemjeff has to walk on eggshells and having to meekly explain he means no insult to Trump supporters.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:07 PM (e3JIL)
No it's fine. People are passionate about who and what they support. I understand.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (2XMpf)
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It seems accurate. Total population is ~81 Million, employed number ~43 Million. Long-term unemployed is 2.2 Million.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:03 PM (2XMpf)
Unfortunately, he's Constitutionally ineligible.
****
Wut?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: freaked at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (BO/km)
Nauseating.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:09 PM (WVvzl)
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I can't watch her any more, I used to record and dip in for a interview or segment or two... now I don't even bother.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (MbrzC)
The New Hot Dogs at Burger King are actually pretty good.
Even the Chili Cheese dog is better then many out there.
Of course, Yocco's Hot Dogs from the Lehigh Valley area of PA are the best.
But the Burger King ones are surprisingly good.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (VPLuQ)
Nauseating.
Posted by: Kreplach
She does the bidding of the Murdochs. One them probably signs her paycheck.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (+1T7c)
It's shit like that that people support him.
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: freaked at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (BO/km)
...Burger King?
Pennsylvania...?
You're killing me here VIA.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (AkOaV)
and yes his brashness on the subject is very appealing
even if he got 1/3 of what he is promising on immigration it is still orders of magnitude greater than what any other candidate is even willing to talk about
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (zOTsN)
Please note: While Donald Trump is ripping on Washington's bullshit, James Cameron was on MSNBC ripping on "climate change deniers on the Right" who won't face facts.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (2SXh/)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (amQXf)
I think it's accurate, but reflective of low birthrates more than economic boom.
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 09:13 PM (ZbV+0)
that's another thing -- no establishment candidate would ever say that about Rush, because they'd be afraid of being called extremists or dittoheads.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:13 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Leibowitz at September 15, 2015 09:13 PM (W5DcG)
I've been a Trump supporter since 2011 and I'm not ashamed to say it so far.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 09:13 PM (xetep)
Yore gal ain't doodly squat!
Posted by: tipi
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The perfect Fiorina theme song.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 09:13 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: freaked at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (pX2ni)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Who are you, now? Flo?
Tell Vic Tayback I said Hi.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (72jxl)
Gee you convinced me. I'm totally going to support some establishment hack just to prove how much I value your opinion of me.
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (ZbV+0)
You were a Trump fan when he said deporting illegals was malicious?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (e3JIL)
also against the 2nd amendment."
Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 09:00 PM (noWW6)
Really? Then he's a liar. Because that's not what he says.
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (s/yC1)
Trump at BB Iowa:
[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nk2gwlv
Not a bad turnout with a $100 per ticket minimum.
All going to charity, haters.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (ucDmr)
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Well check the news Meg just announced another 30k are getting the ax, most in "high-cost" countries.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (MbrzC)
Jindal birthers?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:14 PM (PMlgt)
::shrug::
Not sure where he's going with that, but if we're using the original usage of "natural born citizen" from English common law (which we're clearly not coughcough Obama) then both parents have to be subjects of the King for their progeny to be natural born.
But anyways.... obviously we're using the "if you weren't naturalized, you are are natural born" definition, which means Jindal, Cruz, etc are eligible.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (2XMpf)
Jindal birthers?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
That's a breath of fresh air
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (vM+YG)
they need workers to pay for their social system
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:16 PM (zOTsN)
You're killing me here VIA."
What?
For a while, Allentown had the only East Coast franchise for Der Wienerschnitzel for the longest time.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 09:16 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at September 15, 2015 09:16 PM (m9V0o)
I do enjoy that Trump says "obama" instead of "The President."
HA! I was going to comment the exact same thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (2SXh/)
Rush has always been something of a populist. He has spoken numerous times over the years about what the Real Big Wheels in the Republican Party really think of us, and it was pretty negative. Yet, a lot of people just did not quite hear it. But now we begin to remember.
Now, it has become... self -evident?
I know he thinks of O'Reilly as "Ted Baxter", but does anyone recall what he has said about Glen Beck?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (+1T7c)
...........
yep, I don't think so either
Posted by: Jake at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (dAir9)
Meaghan Kelly just had Fiorina on in a pre debate interview...
Almost every question centered around Trump.... essentially TRYING to start a fight.
To Carly's credit, she did not bite...
But what a wasted opportunity for us voters... we could have actually heard something about Fiorina's POLICY stances....
More and more.... I believe the media, is the enemy....
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (qh617)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (zOTsN)
people aren't crying at his rallies because it's some kind of cult ala
Obama -- people are crying because they freakin' love this country and
we've been heartbroken at seeing her systematically destroyed. We're
just so happy and shocked that not only is someone up there saying what
we've been saying for years, but that he's WINNING. It's like a miracle.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (xetep)
Real hotdogs are from NJ, NY, CT.
I guesss you could include PA if you must. But only as an after thought.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (AkOaV)
Anyone in Trump's family (father, sons, grandfather) served in the military?
If not, Obama doing a rally on a military vessel would have made blood shoot out of my eyes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:18 PM (2XMpf)
IIRC Germany has the lowest birth rate of any country in Europe. they need workers to pay for their social system
Posted by: ThunderB
And chickens. You can't have chickens unless you have tens of millions of illegal aliens.
So we've been told.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 09:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: mindful webworker - funky at September 15, 2015 09:18 PM (ACs58)
****
Wut?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (PMlgt)
That.
By my view, both parents have to be Americans, at the least. Jindal's parents weren't Americans when he was born. Cruz's father wasn't American when he was born (even aside from the fact that he was born in Canada).
It would be nice if the definition of "natural born citizen" had been adjudicated at some point (especially as we have been having people who were DEFINITELY not eligible showing up on Presidential ballots, like Roger Calero, who's not a citizen - he's Venezuelan) ... but people were too embarrassed to force anyone to prove their eligibility back in 2008 (except for the Senate making a joke resolution about McShame's eligibility, which is not even within the Senate's power ... co-sponsored by Barky, BTW) ... so I stick with what the obvious definition has been and remains. has been as proved by Chester Arthur, whose father was not American at the time of his birth and Arthur went through all sorts of machinations to hide that fact ... because he knew he wasn't eligible.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:18 PM (zc3Db)
However, Trump is the "Hope n' Change" candidate for the Right, though while the Left were only disappointed that Obama didn't go hard enough to the Left, the Right will be disappointed when pisses all over them... save for the golden shower Trump fans...
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 15, 2015 09:19 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 15, 2015 09:19 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at September 15, 2015 09:17 PM (+1T7c)
Not much. He only went after OReilly after OReilly started making comments about cigar smoking private jet flying loudmouths on the radio.
And I don't think I missed it -- I've always thought of Rush as non-establishment and more... populist or whatever.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:19 PM (zOTsN)
It's shit like that that people support him.
Does anyone ever see Donald Trump bowing?
To anyone?
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2015 09:19 PM (ZbV+0)
But anyways.... obviously we're using the "if you weren't naturalized, you are are natural born" definition, which means Jindal, Cruz, etc are eligible.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (AkOaV)
Actually.... citizenship followed the Father, as long as it was not a bastard....
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (qh617)
And you have to forget Rubio (though he should have been thrown into the
trash heap years ago) and Cruz on the same criterion. Doesn't leave
much.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:08 PM (zc3Db)
I would have you know, by good authority, that the 'natural' in 'natural born citizen' has always meant "in accordance with law or regulation" in all period writings. Any suggestion otherwise has been recent invention of anti-Obama racists.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (NaeCR)
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MK has her on carson every other day, her mission is clear.
Anyway has to policy...Like the rest she just repeats 90% of what she's been saying for months. So just go watch a older interview.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (MbrzC)
Long live D-Lamp!
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (2SXh/)
Imagine that.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (zyIlW)
Who are you, now? Flo?
Tell Vic Tayback I said Hi.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:15 PM (72jxl)
I didn't tell you to kiss my grits. Just go eat some. You're just being cray cray now.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (vM+YG)
So we've been told.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 15, 2015 09:18 PM (kdS6q)
it is known.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:21 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 09:21 PM (4vXIq)
Posted by: Fatman at September 15, 2015 09:21 PM (mcm0N)
It will change your life.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:11 PM (AkOaV)
And skip the viennas, use brats.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 09:22 PM (NaeCR)
According to Trump, Jane, he's had more military training during his
military academy years (high school) than those of us that, you know,
actually were in the military.
Imagine that.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (zyIlW)
Yep. I heard something that. Our son leans toward Trump, but wishes the Donald had at least someone in his family who served.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:22 PM (FsuaD)
This woman on twitter whines that they shd not execute the guy tomorrow b/c he was not the killer. Well it was a murder for hire killing. He hired the guy to kill his employer b/c he was embezzling from the business. duh.
I look at his twitter bio and she says: Oppenheimer & Co.,Inc- Senior Director / Investments. 20 yrs. exp. Graduated 1987 BBA Wharton of Univ of Penna.
She also is a pal of Pam Smart and thinks she got a raw deal. smh
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:22 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 09:22 PM (4vXIq)
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 09:20 PM (qh617)
either way, it is now settled.
natural born means someone who was not naturalized.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jake at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (dAir9)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (MbrzC)
He's met w/John Bolton (Iran deal, I assume) and worked with Jeff Session on immigration.
It's intriguing that he's meeting w/DC types...you never know.
*Not a Trump fan, but not a hater either*
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Drew in MO at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (cGlgB)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (zc3Db)
Entertained to an extent, but not impressed.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (zyIlW)
and yes his brashness on the subject is very appealing
even if he got 1/3 of what he is promising on immigration it is
still orders of magnitude greater than what any other candidate is even
willing to talk about
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (zOTsN)
And the anti-PC
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (NaeCR)
either way, it is now settled.
natural born means someone who was not naturalized.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:23 PM (AkOaV)
Nope... not settled... no matter how many times YOU say it is...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 09:24 PM (qh617)
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O'R despises Rush because Rush creamed him in the radio ratings.,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:24 PM (vM+YG)
Grits? Why would anyone ever that stuff?
Yuck..........
Posted by: Tim in Illinois.
I lived in Chicagoland for six frozen years. Grits, properly prepared, are amazing.
Bless your heart.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:24 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (WVvzl)
Didn't you know? Trump went to military school, so he's just like all the other veterans.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (iQIUe)
All because I like ketchup and mayo on my hotdogs.
Guess he's not flying down to Texas now...
Oh well.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 15, 2015 09:24 PM (qh617)
Well, it's not really me saying that, it's everyone "on both side of the aisle" who called anyone who would question Obama's natural born status a kooky racist nutjob extremists.
That they're now questioning Cruz's natural born status is funny to me, so I like to remind them that they themselves said this was settled and that only nutjobs would think otherwise.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (AkOaV)
Walter's in Mamoroneck NY.
Best Dog on the planet.
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: OP at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: X at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (57fhp)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (cbfNE)
Therefore, anyone expressing any patriotic sentiment is a scoundrel.
Meanwhile, Hillary says, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
and on the internet, no one knows you and you can say anything.
Posted by: Karl Bogendegia at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (ya7Eg)
Donald Trump wants you to know that Rand Paul is nothing like his father who is fabulous.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (e3JIL)
Best Dog on the planet.
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (4z/cg)
I can't believe I'm saying this, but -- I agree with Garrett.
Well, not best on the planet, but definitely up there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen
Everybody creamed Bill in radio ratings.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (W5DcG)
All because I like ketchup and mayo on my hotdogs.
Guess he's not flying down to Texas now...
Oh well.
****
Do you cut them in half and put them between two slices of white bread?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (PMlgt)
Therefore, anyone expressing any patriotic sentiment is a scoundrel.
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I'm not taking my flag down.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (vM+YG)
Jindal was born in the United States of parents who were legally here, were processing in as Citizens and remained here. They raised their children to be citizens of America and not dual loyal to both countries.
Rubio and Cruz are also unquestionably Americans, does anyone think they have split loyalties? Their parents fled Castro's Cuba for a good reason. I have other problems with Rubio but his loyalty to the United States isn't one of them.
Posted by: John Morris at September 15, 2015 09:29 PM (sCRhB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:28 PM (PMlgt)
No, first he nukes them in microwave, then cuts them up in to little pieces and dips them in to the ketchup.
(I kid, I kid)Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:29 PM (AkOaV)
Evidence suggests this is not true.
Posted by: redbanzai at September 15, 2015 09:29 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: boy roy feed my boy at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (WhfU/)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (zOTsN)
And on another note, thanks for the prayers and for interest my attempt to run for a vacant seat for the School Board. I was not selected. I think they were going for diversity. However, the candidates selected were very articulate and had a lot of talents so they will be an asset. The expired term was only through December so I can always run for elections the next time if I feel so inclined. It was interesting hearing the responses by the various candidates for the vacancies. And I now don't have to go to 4 hour possibly contentious meetings twice a month, so there's that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (dKQ1C)
Hotdog buns.
I also enjoy MREs.
I admit my culinary tastes leave much to be desired among some of the more refined members of the 'Horde
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (zyIlW)
Jack's Cosmic Dogs.
Small cinderblock shack along I-17 near Mt Pleasant S.C. is competitive as well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September
^^this^^
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (vM+YG)
I just disgusted Chi (Hehe).
All because I like ketchup and mayo on my hotdogs.
Guess he's not flying down to Texas now...
Oh well.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (zyIlW)
Mayo on hot dogs? That's an unnatural act.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (JO9+V)
Didn't you know? Trump went to military school, so he's just like all the other veterans.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (nL0sw)
Ya know, it's funny, except not. I've been under an incredible amount of crap and over-extending myself.
Last week, I ended up in a local emergency room with really bad chest pains, and my blood pressure off-the-charts. I was laying in literally one of the last rooms my Mom was in before she died, nearly six years ago. Doc said my tests showed I didn't have a heart attack, but my blood pressure was nearly stroke level.
I can't even begin to tell you how my son's buddies who offed themselves this summer affected me, and now this crazy-assed presidential debate. I feel like I'm living in some sort of weird rabbit hole.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (FsuaD)
There are other good dogs, and many of them are similar. But a Walter's Dog is perfection.
Posted by: Garrett at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (4z/cg)
Posted by: X at September 15, 2015 09:27 PM (57fhp)
Not a knife, a gun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwtQSNEOivk
Posted by: The Nature of the Hat at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (e7T6D)
Well he could be like every other candidate and have his consultants poll and focus group phrases to smash together and come up with a stump speech that he gives at every single speaking event, tweaking it along the way as the focus groups tell him to.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Prescient11 at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (S85kT)
Hotdog buns.
I also enjoy MREs.
I admit my culinary tastes leave much to be desired among some of the more refined members of the 'Horde
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:30 PM (zyIlW)
As long as you don't eat dog, you're good
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Bill R. at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (u2rDY)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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The 2112 & Moving Pictures tours were OK, but I never was a Rush fa. Geddy is too screachy for my tastes.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (zyIlW)
we need a spreadsheet.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (AkOaV)
And on another note, thanks for the prayers and for interest my attempt to run for a vacant seat for the School Board. I was not selected. I think they were going for diversity. However, the candidates selected were very articulate and had a lot of talents so they will be an asset. The expired term was only through December so I can always run for elections the next time if I feel so inclined. It was interesting hearing the responses by the various candidates for the vacancies. And I now don't have to go to 4 hour possibly contentious meetings twice a month, so there's that. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 09:32 PM (dKQ1C)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:33 PM (2XMpf)
Had some of those as a kid. Mustard, not mayo or ketchup though. Basically, mom would have weenies left but no buns so that's how we got it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:33 PM (50YLf)
I feel your pain, literally! Had an MI resulting in two stents a month ago. Then found out two weeks after that that I'm getting laid off (again, thanks SCOAMF) on the 25th.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (nL0sw)
no clue if it was any good. Sound a bit like Fidel. But not running out of things to say
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (zOTsN)
To say that someone is ineligible does not imply anything bad about the person. It is merely a legal qualification. There are many 15 year olds who can drive better than your average adult but they aren't allowed, merely because the law is written as a good, general rule of thumb and 15 year olds (in my state) cannot get drivers licenses. That doesn't mean they are unable to drive, just not allowed to.
The Constitutional requirement is not a moral judgment, just a general rule of thumb to keep the most obvious threats away, in some fashion. barky is proof of why it was needed and why it would have worked as it was supposed to. it also disallows lots of people who would be great Presidents - some naturalized Americans would make truly excellent Presidents ... but they're just not allowed.
Of course, this is a moot because the Constitution, itself, is a dead letter in the American Socialist Superstate. But I still wouldn't vote for anyone whom I consider to be ineligible ... call it American nostalgia.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (zc3Db)
How can the Guy Fawkes crowd be anti royalists when Guy Fawkes night is all about celebrating keeping the monarchy?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (zOTsN)
I watched it.
Good, not great.
But hey, I couldn't ramble on for that long and sound coherent either, so I'm not judging.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (AkOaV)
Oh Jane I am so sorry
please take care of yourself Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:25 PM (WVvzl)
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Yeah I saw that and thought
a) Why are telegraphing your punches Senator?
b) What exactly besides lip service have you done re:Kelo and why does this matter so much given 22 states have side-stepped the issue anyway with their own laws or amendments to prevent such abuses.
c) Some people probably don't consider you "conservative" for some of your positions too Senator, do you really want to open up that discussion?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (MbrzC)
But I do love powdered eggs.
Salt, pepper...no ketchup.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:35 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Karl Bogendegia
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Anything.
Because it had to be said.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 09:36 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 09:36 PM (e7T6D)
He rarely mentions Beck, Hannity from time to time from an Interview.
The Tad Baxter stuff faded away a few years ago
Rush really has not criticized any candidates this cycle, maybe Jeb
Posted by: Jake at September 15, 2015 09:37 PM (dAir9)
two stents a month ago. Then found out two weeks after that that I'm
getting laid off (again, thanks SCOAMF) on the 25th.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:34 PM (nL0sw)
Prayers for you, hon. I'm "lucky" that I'm now covered under Obamacare, pay now $700/mo, and am covered for maternity and newborn care.
Doc in the ER told me I "just" had acid reflux, even though my blood pressure was through the roof. Stroke level. However, I'm seeing my cardiologist next month.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:38 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:38 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 08:44 PM (AkOaV)
Munching too much synthetic carpet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 15, 2015 09:39 PM (7MWCL)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 09:39 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (zyIlW)
Definitely watch the BP. When I got to the ER mine was 225/131. It's all good now with the meds.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Drew in MO at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (cGlgB)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (e3JIL)
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What are these "MRE's" of which you speak?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:41 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Drew in MO at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (cGlgB)
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Are you sure he'd want the job?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:41 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: goon at September 15, 2015 09:42 PM (gy5kE)
Definitely watch the BP. When I got to the ER mine was 225/131. It's all good now with the meds.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (nL0sw)
Mine was 198 over 115. I'm on no meds, healthy history, etc. I'll be visiting my late mom's cardiologist (who is also a close, personal friend) next month. I have mitral valve prolapse, so I'm screwed eventually.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:42 PM (FsuaD)
Show off
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (gf8BH)
Has he changed his political affiliation?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (e3JIL)
Rush supports Trump. Genius.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (e3JIL)
Huh?
Rush doesn't endorse in the primaries, and he always supports the R in the general.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Jane - This ain't the place to reduce high blood pressure, but you know that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Yip at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (e7T6D)
I don't know if Beck is best represented by Martin Sheen or Sheen's son in the video, but the video seems to fit Beck's current state of mind quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Otmhv6YOI
Posted by: Jen the original at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (a7+ws)
Haven't had hotdogs in ages.
And my BP is just fine.
Posted by: SMFH
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And you're not going to be having any in the next week and 1/2, either!
Maybe some fatty sammiches from Noble Pig in Austin, though.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (72jxl)
"The gap between those who run governments and those who are governed has now grown huge and portends nothing good."
You neglected to credit the last excerpt to "Two-Time Obama Voter, Sunshine Patriot, Fair-Weather Friend, Counting on Your Short Term Memory Issues, Flibbertigibbet Peggy Noonan."
Posted by: Semiliterate Thug at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (/f6Nd)
Modern day C-Rations. Have had exactly one. Not sure what to make of it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (50YLf)
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Not true, he endorsed Hillary in the 2007 primaries.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (PMlgt)
Please note: While Donald Trump is ripping on Washington's bullshit,
James Cameron was on MSNBC ripping on "climate change deniers on the
Right" who won't face facts.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at September 15, 2015 09:12 PM (2SXh/)
Cameron has always been a shitlib. The guy hates the military, too. You can see it in films like Avatar and The Abyss.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM (4ErVI)
I don't remember plum pudding but maybe I traded it for the Chesterfields. Still have a P-38 on my grenade ring key chain.
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM (j/ekO)
Meals
Ready to
Eat
Military field rations. High in calories, bind you up tighter than a nuns ass
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (9mTYi)
Ah, yes, Operation Chaos. Touche.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM (AkOaV)
They are pretty good. Really filling, packed with energy and I liked the ones I tried. I could see how someone could get tired of them pretty quick though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM (39g3+)
Slice a potato about 1/4" thick.
Fry
Plop between two slices of white bread slathered in mayo
Add cheese, salt, and pepper
Yum!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (PMlgt)
That sounds like some sort of Mongoloid Egg McMuffin.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (zc3Db)
Maybe some fatty sammiches from Noble Pig in Austin, though.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09
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And that's when the fight started
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (vM+YG)
Jane - This ain't the place to reduce high blood pressure, but you know that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (9mTYi)
Yeah, hon, I know it. I've literally not even lurked for many weeks. Tried to stay away from the news as much as possible. Hugs to you!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (FsuaD)
Will wait to indulge until next week.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (zyIlW)
I didn't say formally endorse though Rush did basically endorse Romney toward the end of the primary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (e3JIL)
Rush supports Trump. Genius.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 09:40 PM (e3JIL)
Rush doesn't support either. He never endorses anyone. But Romney over Obama, yes, he supported that choice. Trump over Hillary, Biden, Sanders or the rest of the Dems? Yep.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (a7+ws)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 15, 2015 09:47 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September
Not a white bread fan. Sorry Captain Whitebread
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:48 PM (vM+YG)
Hopefully the cardiologist can get you all fixed up. I'll toss in some prayers for you.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:48 PM (nL0sw)
I do believe poor Glenn has lost the plot.
Posted by: troyriser at September 15, 2015 09:49 PM (gJU39)
Exactly. The rules are what you can get away with now. Why do we want to toss three of our candidates out? This sort of foolishness is why we have the reputation of being losers. We do not have the power to make the rules, the Constitution is merely a piece of paper hanging in a museum so if they are making the rules, let us give it back to them... good and hard. Read your Alinsky and internalize the one about making the enemy live by their own book of rules. When he wrote that they were the outsiders trying to overthrow the last remnants of Western Civ. Now -THEY- are the Establishment. If you want them out you better be prepared for no holds barred fights in the gutter with them.
THEN we can establish a Republic again. THEN we can make rules and expect to live by them.
Posted by: John Morris at September 15, 2015 09:49 PM (sCRhB)
All I could think of was, "Jeebus, I'm lying in the same room my sweet Mother was in shortly before she died."
My b.p. finally, slowly, went down.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:50 PM (FsuaD)
Maybe I am remembering this incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure Reagan later said that was one of his big regrets because surprise, surprise none of the enforcement clauses went into effect.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 15, 2015 09:50 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:46 PM (9mTYi)
Being a braggart tonite Mr. Hammer?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:50 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:43 PM (9mTYi)
Actually it might be keeping mine down. i can rant and rave here and not get arrested or shot in real life. Just saying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:51 PM (gf8BH)
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Though my respect for you remains undiminished, mayonnaise on a hot dog?
Is this a Texas thing? Cause y'all DO call beef 'barbecue', so anything is possible, I guess.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:51 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:51 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 09:26 PM (W5DcG)
And a rooster for fighting. We've gotta embrace all cultures now, right?
Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (GzDYP)
Posted by: Country Singer at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (nL0sw)
I don't remember plum pudding but maybe I traded it for the Chesterfields. Still have a P-38 on my grenade ring key chain.
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 09:45 PM
The plum pudding was great. Also liked the eggs and ham.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian,
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No, that'll be if we order a pizza.
Anchovies & mushrooms? Really?
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:44 PM (9mTYi)
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True. Operation Chaos.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:53 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 15, 2015 09:53 PM (EHU9F)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 09:54 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Heh. A guy I worked with (ex Secret Service, and a hell of a good guy) used to go down to a local range once a week and burn off a box of ammo with one of his handguns.
A co-worker asked him why he did it, his reply was, "It keeps me from shooting someone around here."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:54 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (gf8BH)
Here I thought it was scheduling morons for crown appointments
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:54 PM (vM+YG)
Arbitrary law is the antithesis of the rule of law - it's the rule of people. When people make the law (or just get to interpret it to mean whatever the fuck they want to, including its polar opposite) the people who make the law are above it and of course, not bound by it.
And as far as playing by Alinsky rules goes... we have to remember that he did not originate most of his ideas. One of his best, ridicule, was lifted almost verbatim from Mark Twain's The Mysterious Stranger. Paraphrased: "Laughter is humanity's greatest weapon. The march of ideas is slow and a colossal humbug can be pushed back and forth slowly over the years, but laughter and blow it to rags and atoms at a blast."
Some of these ideas are as American as a thing can get.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 09:56 PM (HalrA)
Maybe I am remembering this incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure Reagan later said that was one of his big regrets because surprise, surprise none of the enforcement clauses went into effect.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 15, 2015 09:50 PM (4ErVI)
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Yup we're supposed to get duped like him, over and over again and like it damn it!
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 15, 2015 09:56 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Eromero at September 15, 2015 09:56 PM (go5uR)
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Mine is where it always was, my dogtag chain.
And, yeah, I liked the plum pudding.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:56 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:52 PM (gf8BH)
Here I thought it was scheduling morons for crown appointments
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:54 PM (vM+YG
Actually if truth be known, that also. I kinda zone out when doing Dentistry. Kinda like how a baseball player can zone out the crowd.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:57 PM (gf8BH)
The meaning changes substantially depending on comma placement. To wit
People are fucking, sick, and tired...
People are fucking, sick and tired...
People are fucking sick, and tired...
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man
Didn't matter where I put the comma. The old man kicked my ass
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 09:57 PM (vM+YG)
Next time you're in town try a beef with peppers. They don't seem to have them in many other places but Chicago.
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 09:57 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:57 PM (gf8BH)
::shudder::
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 09:58 PM (AkOaV)
Germans loved the damn things though. We would trade straight up case for case MRE's for C-Rats.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 15, 2015 09:58 PM (4vXIq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 09:54 PM (9mTYi)
I hear that. We found a range on a Marine Base in Virginia Beach we can got to anytime and now we got down a day early and shoot.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 09:58 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 09:31 PM (FsuaD)
You are, but like everything else, that will change. Best wishes, good thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 15, 2015 09:58 PM (1Y+hH)
Screw him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2015 09:58 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 15, 2015 09:51 PM (WVvzl)
******
So....pistols at dawn?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 09:59 PM (LScJ2)
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No, that'll be if we order a pizza.
Anchovies & mushrooms? Really?
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015
Mushrooms? Yes
Anchovies? Hell no
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:00 PM (vM+YG)
That's simple. Point and laugh. Laugh at their absurdity, their futility, their stupidity. Stop treating them like they're serious. Remember how Reagan almost made liberal an insult forever? How did he do that? By portraying them as the laughable bumbling idiots they are.
And the Left... they hate humor. It's self-evident. It's why comics are starting to refuse to work the college circuit. Their credibility rests on their pretense of seriousness and intellectual superiority. Show them in all of their inanity, in all of their silliness, in all of their stupidity and they'll come apart like a house of cards in a hurricane.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 10:01 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:01 PM (EWg9n)
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I knew it!
I knew dammit!
Me: "ugggghghhh...brughhhhro...owowowow"
Dentist (dreamily): "Yeah, we're gonna be sailing the Caribbean on my 40' Sailboat all of next month. I can't wait."
Me: "owowowow...fugggg"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 10:01 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Emmie at September 15, 2015 10:02 PM (eg4Vl)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:02 PM (50YLf)
Even after being a regular contributor at the HQ?
I congratulate you. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM (dKQ1C)
Four ounce chuck patties.
Vermont Bread Company potato rolls (the best by far!). gutted of course.
Jalapeno rings
Sauteed onion
Avocado mash
Thick cut bacon
Monterey Jack
Formed thin, salted heavily, and cooked in a hot pan. About four minutes total, which yielded a medium-well but still very juicy burger.
Elegant fast-food burger? Diner burger? Who the hell knows.
But.....Excellent!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: otho
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Yup. There were times when stuff just got split up, traded around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM (50YLf)
They did this show in Wales which has lovely scenery. Been there many years ago. Wonder if I'll recognize any landmarks.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2015 10:04 PM (NGd+i)
sounds delicious.
maybe you should think about posting recipes on the blog sometime.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:04 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: God at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (pq97T)
Rep. Duncan Hunter, R Calif., a former Marine officer and Iraq veteran, released a statement Tuesday saying Mabus' recent public comments were an insult to the service.
Secretary Mabus is quickly proving that hes a political hack who cares more about doing the White Houses bidding than the combat effectiveness of the Marine Corps, Hunter said. Mabus is not only insulting the Marine Corps as an institution, but hes essentially telling Marines that their experience and judgment doesnt matter.
Damn Right! You tell em Mr. Hunter
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (gf8BH)
Heh.
NGU daydreaming, wandering off in the middle of a root canal.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:02 PM (50YLf)
Hope my Doc is more focused next month
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (2XMpf)
This chicken breast is yuge, though. I'm sure my cat is willing to help out if I can't eat it all.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:04 PM (AkOaV)
For you savages? Not a chance.
For God's sake, you don't eat arugula!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (Zu3d9)
What in the hell is an arugula?
Is that some kind of weasel?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (vM+YG)
You think we are lookin in your mouth at that molar and thinking: " Now there is a sexy Molar"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (gf8BH)
You want to get rid of the GOP as it is currently constituted. They let you down - they let all of us down - with their fecklessness and their outright betrayal of conservative values. I get that. I really do. When the GOP fundraisers call me, I hang up on them too. I am done with giving them money or doing much of anything for them. Trump threatens the GOPe gravy train and that part is good. But if I want to get rid of the GOPe, I want the replacement to be at least somewhat better than what was replaced. On every major issue except immigration, Trump is to the left of every other candidate.
I am not a single-issue guy, I cannot support a candidate who is right on one issue but wrong on every other issue.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:04 PM (2XMpf)
Well said, chemjeff.
Posted by: Gem at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (c+gwp)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (LScJ2)
Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (LScJ2)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Dale Carnegie at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (t3wLW)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:04 PM (AkOaV)
For you savages? Not a chance.
For God's sake, you don't eat arugula!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (Zu3d9)
Typical anti-Semite Joo
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (2XMpf)
The Marines all seem happy in my chair.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (LScJ2)
1001 1000
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (AkOaV)
I shall abstain from a personal insult for stealing my 1000.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (dKQ1C)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:06 PM (2XMpf)
Bring him a bottle of whiskey....he'll perk right up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (Zu3d9)
I knew dammit!
Me: "ugggghghhh...brughhhhro...owowowow"
Dentist (dreamily): "Yeah, we're gonna be sailing the Caribbean on my 40' Sailboat all of next month. I can't wait."
Me: "owowowow...fugggg"
Mrs VIA is a Dental Assistant.
Been doing it for about 28 years.
Calls me names, all because I live in fear of Dentists.
Because they always lose focus, and drift off mentally while jabbing me with sharp shit.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: @votermom at September 15, 2015 07:15 PM (cbfNE
YES.
Posted by: Auntie Doodles at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (teYv/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a C ration can of plum pudding and a P-38 at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM
Yeah, that sounds right. The D(?) stuff got issued as well as the C stuff and was parceled out along with the 24 hour rats? There was good stuff in both. We got some excellent international roast instant coffee, blended just for the army rats. Top stuff, that.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:10 PM (EWg9n)
The Marines all seem happy in my chair.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (gf8BH
It must have something to do with the drugs and the restraints.
Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 10:10 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (dKQ1C)
I know how NOT to cook it if that helps.
It can be really bitter if you cook it for too long. Or was it too short?
Nah, I'd check google.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:10 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (gf8BH)
No, more like "Now there is a sexy car payment"
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:10 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (AkOaV)
*****
Ehhhhh, I was off by two at 998.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:10 PM (LScJ2)
Trim the ends
chop into four inch long pieces
Parboil for about two minutes
Saute in olive oil and thin-sliced garlic for about five minutes
Salt lightly and eat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:11 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:05 PM (vM+YG)
You think we are lookin in your mouth at that molar and thinking: " Now there is a sexy Molar"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:07 PM (gf8BH)
Nah, I just want my Doc focused. If I came to your office doing my job you would want me focused, right?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:11 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (VPLuQ)
Right? I'm convinced they're all always high on the laughing gas, but ngu says the nitrous is too expensive to waste. So who knows?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:11 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 10:12 PM (dKQ1C)
why is chemjeff attacking others now ?
he's a good guy ..likes milller lite and applebees.
Posted by: IsThisAThing? at September 15, 2015 10:11 PM (qQk+U)
Actually I have recently switched to Michelob Ultra. Less carbs. And I'm actually going to the gym again. So less Applebee's.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:12 PM (2XMpf)
Speaking off recipes. Someone gave me a huge couple of bunches of
broccoli rabe. I have never cooked that before. I can look this up on
the net, but does anyone here know how to cook it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 10:09 PM (dKQ1C)
Steam it until it's just tender, drain and dry it, then saute it in a bit of olive oil and garlic until tender. And if you want to dress it up, shave or shred some Parm on top. Winning.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 10:12 PM (FsuaD)
You're supposed to feed that stuff to the rabbit a week before you make hossenpfeffer.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:11 PM (vM+YG)
Who says zoned out and focused are not the same thing?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (LScJ2)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (2XMpf)
Salt lightly and eat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Don't burn the garlic
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:12 PM (2XMpf)
fewer carbs, chemjeff. Fewer carbs.
Posted by: mynewhandle, being THAT GUY at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (AkOaV)
Medicinal grade probably doesn't have CO in it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:14 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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It can happen, kinda.
When was about 10 or 11 years old, the dentist took a look and said someting like "Wow!. Just a minute, I want my assistant to see this". He went and fetched her, and said "Look at that crossbite!"
Well, hells bells, I had no idea what it was all about, and was too young to ask. For my entire life I have have wondered if it was extraordinarily good or bad.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:14 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (2XMpf)
Yes it is.
I don't know, you can usually buy little canisters of it down at the local sex shop.
Nitrous + cracker + balloon = 30 seconds of being high / oxygen deprivation.
So yeah, I can see how it would add up.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:14 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (JmGFJ)
Yup.
As usual, the horde is on top of things.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:14 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (2XMpf)
******
I assume Medical grade is a good bit more spendy.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:15 PM (LScJ2)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:14 PM (Zu3d9)
details, details
plus I'm sure the med grade only goes to the patients who have insurance
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:15 PM (2XMpf)
Who says zoned out and focused are not the same thing?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (gf8BH)
Not you?
Sorry Doc
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 15, 2015 10:15 PM (vM+YG)
Four ounce chuck patties.
Vermont Bread Company potato rolls (the best by far!). gutted of course.
Jalapeno rings
Sauteed onion
Avocado mash
Thick cut bacon
Monterey Jack
Formed thin, salted heavily, and cooked in a hot pan. About four minutes total, which yielded a medium-well but still very juicy burger.
Elegant fast-food burger? Diner burger? Who the hell knows.
But.....Excellent!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:03 PM (Zu3d9)
So these were all raw ingredients that were assembled, then cooked in the pan? Even the bacon? I might be able to handle that.
What is avocado mash?
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:16 PM (sdi6R)
Question :What do Trump advocates say when you point out Trump said the
economy does better under Democrat administrations, that self
deportation measures are malicious, that he would continue to fund
Planned Parenthood, that he bashes Rand Paul by praising Ron Paul, that
he would love to have Oprah as his running mate, that he said assault
weapons only needed by police and criminals and a hundred other asinine
statements?
Answer: oh that's just Trump being Trump.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at September 15, 2015 08:24 PM (e3JIL)"
I am not really a Trump advocate except that I will vote for him in the general if he wins the GOP nomination but the reply is that when Trump does all the things you mentioned at least we will not feel as stupid and betrayed as we do every single time we elect a Republican who then turns around and does the opposite of what he said he would do.
If the people who run the GOPe want to turn down the volume on some of the hate that is driving Trump's popularity, they ought to throw Boner and McConnell under the bus. When you are trying to con people, it is a bad idea to be too closely associated with known con men.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 10:16 PM (QHgTq)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:13 PM (JmGFJ)
So true. I tend to NEVER add garlic to a recipe until the last few seconds. We love garlic, and over-browned/burnt garlic ruins whatever recipe.
Jane Doh's Rules: Add the garlic at the very end. The very, very end.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 10:16 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:16 PM (sdi6R)
I think it's like an avocado smash. Where you grab an avocado and smash it up all good like.
But I'm no chef.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:17 PM (AkOaV)
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Hold it. You had hot water?
WTF.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:17 PM (9mTYi)
I don't support Trump, but I don't support Beck either.
They both seem to be competing for all the oxygen in the room.
Posted by: Indiana Jones at September 15, 2015 10:17 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 10:18 PM (s/yC1)
bbl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:18 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: rrpjr at September 15, 2015 10:18 PM (s/yC1)
exnay on the ickRay ilsonWay talk.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 10:19 PM (/HC6x)
bbl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:18 PM (9mTYi)
eww, tmi.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 15, 2015 10:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 10:19 PM (LScJ2)
Going to walk the cat.
bbl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:18 PM (9mTYi)
I love you, in part, because you walk your cat. Huge Hugs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2015 10:20 PM (FsuaD)
Put the spatula down and step slowly out of the kitchen.
Avocado mash is just scooped out avocado flesh with some salt, cayenne and lemon juice, mashed up to a chunky consistency.
Cooked bacon.
Sauteed onions
Burgers seared in a hot pan.
Everything stacked together and eaten with great speed and good beer.
Twice. They were really good.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:20 PM (Zu3d9)
On important news....the Cubs won.
Haters.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 10:19 PM (/HC6x)
Actually I do feel a bit sorry for the Cubs this year.
They have had a very good season, and the only reason they aren't cruising to the post season is because they are in a very strong division. They would be division leader in any other division.
But that is where my sympathy stops. GO CARDS GO BUCKS
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:21 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:17 PM
Had to heat it up ourselves on the esbit cooker thingy, but yeah, instant coffee. Didn't get to do it that often, natch. Tea too. The jams were nice. Vegemite got traded to the sickos who were into that weird stuff.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:22 PM (EWg9n)
Very strange thing is david barton, billionaire.
He runs beck's mercury one charities. He also has a super pac for cruz. That super pac gave carly's super pac $500k in mid June. What the fuck is going on?
Posted by: Prescient11 at September 15, 2015 10:23 PM (S85kT)
WTF.
Sure, it was that stuff at the bottom of your canteen after walking all day in the blazing sun with a bunch of heavy shit on your back.
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 10:23 PM (j/ekO)
Avocado mash is just scooped out avocado flesh with some salt, cayenne and lemon juice, mashed up to a chunky consistency.
Cooked bacon.
Sauteed onions
Burgers seared in a hot pan.
Everything stacked together and eaten with great speed and good beer.
Twice. They were really good.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:20 PM (Zu3d9)
But what did you mean by "four minutes total"? That would take me at least half an hour.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
As well with pepper, unless a slow roast, smoked meat, or brining.
Salt's a mineral; pepper is plant matter. Salt can't burn at cooking temps; pepper does.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:24 PM (JmGFJ)
U-turns back out the door *
Posted by: dogfish at September 15, 2015 10:25 PM (2/WhT)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2015 10:25 PM (NGd+i)
Cruz/Carly ticket would be pretty sweet
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:25 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 10:23 PM
We didn't have to always make hot coffee ourselves. Sometimes the field kitchen would come up and we'd have our coffee served by butlers. It's true. Also, pork chops, apple sauce, ice cream amd strawberries. I'm not shitting you.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:26 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Bill "Fight 'em to the Last Alabaman" Kristol at September 15, 2015 10:26 PM (pq97T)
Two minutes to cook each side of the burger patty, for a total of four minutes. 2+2=4
In the pan, which was sitting on top of the big burner on the stove.
Oh...the burner was lit, and turned up all of the way.
You eat out a lot, don't you?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:27 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: cm9000 at September 15, 2015 10:27 PM (hs7es)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 10:27 PM (/HC6x)
Wait, this does not compute. All Aussies like Vegemite. It's like the national food.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:28 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:28 PM (2XMpf)
A coup? Against the establishment. Trump is the decoy.
Makes as much sense as anything else in our crazy world.
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (zz1pw)
It's a miracle. The 17 year old son just offered me pizza. It's a
miracle in that 1) there was leftovers 2) he paid for it and 3) he
talked to me.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 15, 2015 10:27 PM (/HC6x)
He wants something, maybe the car keys?
Posted by: teen psychology at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (SyqyH)
1) He bought two pizzas
2) Check your wallet
3) Bullshit. He's 17....you made that up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (Zu3d9)
Did someone leave a leftover tuna sandwich in here? This post is pretty smelly!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (UpGcq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 10:08 PM (gf8BH)"
Back in the day, Marines would sit next to you at a bar, put their forearm next to yours and put a lit cigarette in the valley between the arms and, if the person they were sitting next to was a fellow Marine rather than a candy ass soldier like myself who immediately jumped up and yelled, "What the fuck is wrong with you?", let the cigarette burn all the way up to the filter. Marines had these burn scars all over their lower arms. They also seemed to go in for ice sitting contests.
You will forgive me if I do not take the opinion of people who do this sort of thing as an endorsement for a dentist.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (QHgTq)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 15, 2015 10:30 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:30 PM (2XMpf)
Congrats. You did something right.
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:30 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:30 PM (50YLf)
Yes.
Hot pan, four ounce patties that I smooshed to about a four inch diameter.
They cook very quickly, and get a nice crust too. Good stuff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:30 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:28 PM
Nah, it's a hoax on a grand scale. I'm sure those weirdos are just choking it down in order to convince people overseas to buy it all.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:31 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: chemjeff
Fresh diner patties only.
Frozen diner patties will take 8 to ten total.
Steakhouse patties can take, at a low and slow then reverse sear, like 20 min.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:31 PM (JmGFJ)
Two minutes to cook each side of the burger patty, for a total of four minutes. 2+2=4
In the pan, which was sitting on top of the big burner on the stove.
Oh...the burner was lit, and turned up all of the way.
You eat out a lot, don't you?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:27 PM (Zu3d9)
Well yes, of course I do. I don't have anybody to cook for me.
Four minutes for the burger I can understand, but what about preparing the avocado, cooking the bacon, and slicing and sauteeing the onion? It has to take more than four minutes to do all that.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:32 PM (sdi6R)
I guess....but that is what baseball and cocktails are for.
Wander around, cook some bacon, drink some Old Fashioned, slice the cheese and make the avocado, watch baseball, saute the onions, watch more baseball.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:33 PM (Zu3d9)
I'm thinking sometime around Christmas?
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 10:34 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:34 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: rickl
That's called prep time. he was ref'ing cooking time.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:34 PM (JmGFJ)
Sure, but as I mentioned to chemjeff, that's what booze and baseball is for.....
And I don't have anybody to cook for me either!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:34 PM (Zu3d9)
/
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:35 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 10:35 PM (72jxl)
I see. I need to try it one day just to know. I gots to know.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:35 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:36 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:35 PM
You'll be sorry. It looks better than it tastes... and it looks like black shit smeared on toast.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:38 PM (EWg9n)
Nah, she came back March/April/May for a bit just to let everyone know she was fine. She's just been doing other things. Perfectly fine as of that time. Just not spending time here.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:38 PM (50YLf)
So you have 20 minutes to prepare other stuff. Bacon, onions and cheese.
I could eat a burger like that every day of my life.
And as long as the interior temperature hits about 155 for a few seconds it will kill pretty much everything you could possibly be exposed to. That doesn't take 20 minutes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:39 PM (Zu3d9)
bar, put their forearm next to yours and put a lit cigarette in the
valley between the arms and, if the person they were sitting next to was
a fellow Marine rather than a candy ass soldier like myself who
immediately jumped up and yelled, "What the fuck is wrong with you?",
let the cigarette burn all the way up to the filter. Marines had these
burn scars all over their lower arms.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (QHgTq)
Must have learned it from the Micronesians in WWII, 'cept they do it to enhance climax.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:39 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:39 PM (zz1pw)
That said, doesn't Gabe do these same things? Like, don't we all know that a Gabe Malor post is coming in the near future where he echoes these same sentiments, just in a more nuanced way?
Posted by: Rich at September 15, 2015 10:40 PM (f3B34)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:35 PM (zz1pw)
Yes, very. I might attempt a recipe only if I have detailed, explicit step-by-step instructions, with precise measurements, times, and temperatures. And if it's not too complicated or time-consuming.
I cannot deal with "add a little of this, a little of that, and cook till done". I haven't a clue what to do and will just heat up a can of Spaghetti-O's instead.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:41 PM (sdi6R)
I think my chain is being delicately yanked.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:41 PM (Zu3d9)
Heh. Mrs. H bought into the TV ads, and brought home a jar of Nuttello. I read the ingredients and commented, "Sounds like Hershey Bar". Smeared some on toast the next day, and sure enough, it tastes like Hershey paste.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:41 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Sick of phony refugees at September 15, 2015 10:41 PM (aFL58)
You can do it!
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:41 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:43 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: WOPR at September 15, 2015 10:43 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:44 PM (EWg9n)
I am with you rickl. I pretty much need explicit instructions.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 10:44 PM (2XMpf)
Funny. For some reason I see Nutella and 'mite compared. Maybe just because they're a spread. Don't know.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:44 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: otho
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*crosses Vegemite off 'things to be experienced' list*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (zz1pw)
If you are serious then I apologize for poking fun at you.
http://iamnotachef.com/2007/09/27/beware-of-other-cooks/
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (Zu3d9)
I tried a couple of bites.
He lied.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (bfpzm)
That was easy.
Posted by: rfichoke at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (vLCft)
Gabe is a pure tribalist.
Asshole lawyer tribe first, butthurt queer tribe second, everything else when it's convenient.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 15, 2015 10:46 PM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:46 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Sick of phony refugees at September 15, 2015 10:46 PM (aFL58)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (zz1pw)
FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:46 PM (Zu3d9)
It smells terrible and tastes worse.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 15, 2015 10:47 PM (bfpzm)
Posted by: Rich at September 15, 2015 10:47 PM (f3B34)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
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Thanks, RK. Good to know.
I always knew she was one of the smart ones.
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 10:47 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 10:48 PM (ucDmr)
Vegemite?
Salty, slimy, sourish, faintly rotten.....
Yuck.
You like it? Really?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:48 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Sick of phony refugees at September 15, 2015 10:49 PM (aFL58)
I tried a couple of bites.
He lied.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 15, 2015 10:45 PM (bfpzm)
In Australia, PBJ means "pure butt juice". He's an honest guy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 10:49 PM (zc3Db)
they need workers to pay for their social system
Posted by: ThunderB at September 15, 2015 09:16 PM (zOTsN)
I don't think this bunch they're letting in is going to fill that bill for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2015 10:49 PM (DiZBp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 10:50 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 15, 2015 10:50 PM (bfpzm)
I'm out for a while...
Posted by: Chi at September 15, 2015 10:50 PM (72jxl)
Posted by: Sick of phony refugees at September 15, 2015 10:50 PM (aFL58)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (j/ekO)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 10:49 PM (zc3Db)
Mmmm, ass schmere.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:53 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:53 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (NaeCR)
Carson ... but he holds some of their worse positions.
Cruz got his associate membership when he was shilling for extra-Constitutional "trade" authority for Barky, which to this day I still can't understand. He must have been slipped some spy drugs or something because that was about the stupidest thing around for a good long time.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 10:53 PM (zc3Db)
Hershey Bar: SUGAR, CHOCOLATE, COCOA BUTTER, COCOA PROCESSED WITH ALKALI, MILK FAT, LACTOSE, SOY LECITHIN, PGPR, VANILLIN, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, AND MILK
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:54 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 10:54 PM (50YLf)
Interesting.
Posted by: navybrat at September 15, 2015 10:54 PM (ETxiG)
Posted by: chemjeff
Frozen on the stove: need an all-clad or other heavy duty pan. No non-stick pans for FFFSFSGHHSHSH sake.
Heat the pan up to high, time depends on your stove. You want it unbearable when you hover your hand over the surface for about 5 sec.
High-heat oil needed if your burger is less than 70/30 beef to fat. IF not add a 1/2 tbsp in the pan. Lightly salt the burger with kosher. That's it.
On the pan. Do not move the patty for 4 min at least. IF at 4 min it slides at your touch, flip.
Again, wait 4 min. Touch the burger; if it feels mushy, let it sit.
If it feels slightly tougher than raw hamburger, it's ready.
At the last few seconds, kill the heat and add cheese, sauce, pepper, etc. anything that burns easily, on top.
Let sit on a toasted, buttered bun for only few minutes a before serving.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 10:54 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:43 PM
Historical fact- Vegemite was originally conceived to be issued to convicts since it has the nutients ans taste of raw offal. It was intended to stave off the bouts of cannibalism. It was a failure in that regard.
Posted by: otho at September 15, 2015 10:54 PM (EWg9n)
The ones in the lead. It's the darnedest thing...
Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 10:55 PM (FcR7P)
Interesting question, name one country that had completely and formally abolished all forms of slavery internal to its recognized boundaries prior to 1780?
Part 2, name one currently existing country, religion, or political system that has not completely and formally abolished all forms of slavery in all areas under its control?
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2015 10:56 PM (ftVQq)
An old friend of my father's was a captain in the army (saw heavy combat in Korea).
He went back in as a surgeon during the first Gulf War, and absolutely loved the new rations. He actually went to army surplus stores and bought them just to munch on now and then.
Yeah...he was nuts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:56 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:56 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 10:57 PM (zz1pw)
It is vile. Fvcking awful.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2015 10:43 PM (Zu3d9)
It's an acquired taste, and I've actually acquired it a little bit. I saw a little jar of Vegemite in the store one day and decided to try it. Toast some bread, spread butter on it, and spread Vegemite on top of that. It's practically the national dish of Australia, and is easy enough even for me to do.
There was a hilarious review and instructional by an Australian on Amazon, but I can't find it now. The gist of it was to use it very sparingly at first. It's not like peanut butter where you slather it on.
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:58 PM (sdi6R)
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Yeah, it is populist mob appeal. In the context of producing revenues, it doesn't mean much, if anything.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 10:58 PM (9mTYi)
Are you cutting in on my territory?
Posted by: Pompous Asshole Foodie at September 15, 2015 10:58 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 15, 2015 10:59 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 11:00 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2015 10:58 PM (sdi6R)
Sorry to hear that. There is treatment for it, though.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:00 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 15, 2015 10:59 PM (dULJN)
Almond paste!
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:00 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (NaeCR)
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. Those are about the only two I could support in the general, anyway.
Posted by: rfichoke at September 15, 2015 11:00 PM (vLCft)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 11:01 PM (zz1pw)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 11:01 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: otho
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*erases altogether the already crossed-out Vegemite from "things to be experienced" list*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 11:01 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Chavez
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You're thinking of Crisco vegetable oil.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (9mTYi)
Who knows. It might do that too.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 10:51 PM (NaeCR)
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. Those are about the only two I could support in the general, anyway.
Posted by: rfichoke at September 15, 2015 11:00 PM (vLCft)
Maybe if we can get a Rand-Trump baby, cultured in a lab, accelerated its development to get 35 years maturity in the next year we can get something useful?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2015 10:56 PM (ftVQq)
I wouldn't say "all forms". Slavery is still legal under the Constitution ... just not for fun.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: E.T. at September 15, 2015 11:04 PM (yq4gk)
convicts since it has the nutients ans taste of raw offal. It was
intended to stave off the bouts of cannibalism. It was a failure in that
regard.
Sounds like chain yanking to me, but what the hell do I know.
Posted by: dartist at September 15, 2015 11:04 PM (j/ekO)
Had an interesting waltz thru wikipedia on that one. Abolition actually happened quite frequently.
Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 11:04 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: FireClean LLC at September 15, 2015 11:04 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (zc3Db)
What would be the point...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:05 PM (NaeCR)
Well, ya know, that's up for debate too. There are potato diets where people lose weight eating nothing but spuds.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 11:05 PM (50YLf)
You can still lead a full rewarding life, mate!
Posted by: Ned Kelly at September 15, 2015 11:06 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:05 PM (NaeCR)
Just semantical. No recreational slavery but medical slavery is still allowed, so to speak.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:06 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Infidel at September 15, 2015 11:07 PM (zz1pw)
Dr Paul Booth of Keele University spotted the name in 'Roger Fuckebythenavele' in the Chester county court plea rolls beginning on December 8, 1310. The man was being named three times part of a process to be outlawed, with the final mention coming on September 28, 1311.
Dr Booth believes that "this surname is presumably a nickname. I suggest it could either mean an actual attempt at copulation by an inexperienced youth, later reported by a rejected girlfriend, or an equivalent of the word 'dimwit' i.e. a man who might think that that was the correct way to go about it."
Posted by: Indiana Jones at September 15, 2015 11:07 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:03 PM (NaeCR)
I wish Rand or Cruz had the media skills of Trump (or I wish that Trump had some anti-statist principles--one of the two).
Posted by: rfichoke at September 15, 2015 11:08 PM (vLCft)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:06 PM (zc3Db)
Probably should have used "involuntary servitude" as the term of art.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2015 11:10 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Pompous Asshole Foodie
If you're looking to create frozen hamburger tartar, be my guest.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 11:10 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: FireClean LLC
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Yes, thank you, I will have fries with that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2015 11:10 PM (9mTYi)
Seems like a loose reference. Maybe made up for the occasion.
Always liked the "you can no longer pluck the yew" followed by a raising of the middle finger as an insult as explanation from The War of the Roses. I think that was the war.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 15, 2015 11:11 PM (50YLf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2015 11:11 PM (W5DcG)
Thank you for the detailed instructions! But that leads to one more question. How do you know if your pan is nonstick or not? I honestly don't know. I did not pay attention to this feature when I bought it a long time ago.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 11:14 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 11:14 PM (JmGFJ)
Did someone leave a leftover tuna sandwich in here? This post is pretty smelly!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 15, 2015 10:29 PM (UpGcq)
Sorry.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid snacking on his smoked carp at September 15, 2015 11:14 PM (DfCQN)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 15, 2015 11:15 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2015 11:10 PM (ftVQq)
I didn't mean to stomp on your interesting trivia question. I gave it a few minutes to see if anyone was going to answer it before I offered that little caveat.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 15, 2015 11:15 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: chemjeff
Answer on ONT. Cheers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2015 11:19 PM (JmGFJ)
I've read people commenting on this website, who will call themselves limited government, Constitutional conservatives, advocating for a national ID card, and deporting American citizens, after putting those American citizens in what are functionally concentration camps, similar to what FDR did to Japanese-Americans 70 years ago.
Yes, "anchor babies" are American citizens. You may not like that but that is what they are. By statutory law and by the Constitution.
Beck makes a good point, if in-artfully. You can't claim to have all these high and lofty principles when opposing a Democrat, or even a black Democrat, and then throw those same principles overboard for the first slick-talking demagogue that claims to be a conservative.
It opens you up to accusations of having another motive besides your stated principles (that you are so swiftly abandoning) for your opposition.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 15, 2015 11:20 PM (ljZD2)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 15, 2015 11:23 PM (NaeCR)
Breitbart has a major bug up their ass about Beck. They have been consistently misquoting things to throw red-meat to the lions.
As an example, Beck said that "we" (regarding his listeners) were raising funds and complimented them that they would be able to help more people than Oskar Schindler by December. Breitbart then runs a headline "I'll help more people than Schindler" and the result is 2,000 comments on Beck is off his meds.
In similar fashion he has a black employee that was on the show this morning. This guy was part of the Obama campaign and got pretty fed up with the hopey changey crap. People were looking for a king to solve there woes and he was pointing out not to fall into the same thinking about Trump. So now Beck is a racist. This is crap. The context was having constitutional solutions. --Besides, I'm willing to bet his demographics are a lot better than Breitbart.
The latest line is that Beck hates the tea party and commenters are concluding that Beck is a RINO that wants to vote for Lindsay Graham.
This is really stupid.
Posted by: AE at September 15, 2015 11:28 PM (1yTQf)
True. Family movie night with the kids. Didn't get to read Ace's anti-Beck post until long after he made it. The point remains, however.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 15, 2015 11:31 PM (ljZD2)
*****
Bravely commenting on a dead thread. Sure. Why not?
C'mon upstairs and give it a try, Sport.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 15, 2015 11:39 PM (LScJ2)
Anchor babies are citizens the same way that Dred Scott is still a slave. Plyler v Doe can be overturned by another SCOTUS decision, Sparky.
Posted by: Weirddave at September 16, 2015 12:09 AM (WvS3w)
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 16, 2015 12:11 AM (VRc/p)
Overly broad statement.
A lot of people believe that sums it up. They are mistaken.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 16, 2015 12:20 AM (NaeCR)
Trump supporters like the following: Trump wants to clamp down on our insane immigration policies, legal and otherwise. You obviously can't deport a citizen of the US, and that won't change unless the law changes, but that's not even the biggest problem (it is a problem, however.) Let's face it, we aren't even deporting hardened criminals at this point. Surely, we can agree that we don't need literally millions of new citizens every year, and we certainly don't need to import criminals. We have enough criminals of our own already, thank yu.
No other nation in the world has such lax immigration policies and enforcement. We allow millions of people to come here every year, legal and otherwise, when we really can't afford the programs that we already have, and we can't employ the people we already have. And please don't pull out the old canard of immigrants doing the jobs Americans won't. Please, we have enough unskilled laborers already.
In addition, every nation has the right to preserve its own culture, traditions, and language, and be mindful of crafting immigration policies that are more for our benefit. The vast majority of American people want less immigration, not more, and the vast majority of Americans favor a fence along the border.
Immigration is just one issue. There are others of which Trump is probably the most qualified to deal with. The man is not dumb, he understands wealth creation, and he knows how to get things done.
The other nice thing about Trump is that he doesn't owe anyone anything. He is running a completely independent campaign. He is a candidate beholden to no one, which I am sure scares the pants off of the powers that be.
Also, wouldn't it be nice to have a president in the White House that actually LIKED his country and wanted it to be the best that it could be? Wouldn't that be a novel change of pace?
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at September 16, 2015 02:03 AM (2S9xy)
Posted by: rfichoke at September 15, 2015 11:08 PM (vLCft)
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As do I... but they don't, and he doesn't for the most part.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 16, 2015 06:15 AM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at September 16, 2015 06:25 AM (lQqJB)
While we are forced by our dysfunctional and dishonest media culture into talking like this,"
We aren't forced. Most of us don't pay enough attention to picky language to learn how they're slanting it. We could avoid being "forced" by paying more attention and refusing to use the categories the Left and media try to get us to use.
Posted by: Cranky Yankee at September 16, 2015 08:46 AM (Qj2Wo)
This is the political issue of our times. It happens no matter what happens.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 16, 2015 10:08 AM (TULs6)
Hey, Beck, there's an alternative explanation: Trump is threatening to make the GOP establishment suck Trump's barbed cock.
Yes, he's a rent-seeking, single payer loving, raise taxes on the rich Democrat, but he is also putting the fear of god into the GOPe, so I'm ok with that part.
If he is the eventual nominee, he'll be better than (Joe|Bernie|Hillary). If Jim Webb got the nomination on the D side, that might be a push, but I don't see Webb going any where other than home in a year from now.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 16, 2015 10:19 AM (1hM1d)
That's a great way of putting it.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 16, 2015 10:24 AM (TULs6)
My, how the times have changed.
Posted by: Percy Gryce at September 16, 2015 11:02 AM (mAm+G)
You want to know who is more or less generous? Go volunteer as a bell ringer for the Salvation Army this Christmas and watch who's putting money in the bucket. The people with money give coins. The people without money give dollars. It's always like that.
Generosity is measured on a sliding scale. It's not a flat rate. And the poor are ALWAYS more generous.
Posted by: gimme a break at September 16, 2015 11:58 AM (NOdvI)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2015 12:31 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Ken Mayes at September 16, 2015 04:36 PM (QcpEl)
ace Maetenloch,
Thank you guys for not banning me the other night.
I reviewed my comments, and they were over the top.
I know I'm on thin ice.
(And I'm also sure the "oops, I did it again" routine is long past its shelf life.)
What I say next is not an excuse. But maybe it could be helpful info broadly speaking. (I.e., beyond Trump v Anti-Trump comments.) And maybe not.
But just in case:
As supporter of any issue Y (in my case the candidacy of Donald Trump), it sometimes gets frustrating to hear fellow commenters slam and misrepresent not just the issue itself but also the supporters of that issue - with relative impunity. (Even generically speaking as was the case here.)
Yes, it's solely my responsibility to handle/react better.
As I think I've stated in some prior comment somewhere: If I ever do get banned here (again), I will know full well that I'll only have myself to blame. May I always find a way to bite my stupid tongue!
By the way, Maetenloch, I did not see your comment directed at my comments until after I saw ace's and I had already quit the conversation.
I was not ignoring you. If I had seen what you had said @ 474, I would have stopped right away - the same as I did when ace told me to take the night off.
And just to be redundantly clear, I think the new banning policy (that I was running afoul of) is a good one.
It improves the civility of these conversations - without wussifying them.
And thanks again for the excellent conservative content and forum.
If not (for any reason) a commenter, I will always be a reader.
Cheers.
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