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Unified Washington DC Cartel Passes Nuke Deal Over the Objections of the American People
Well, guess that House plan I wrote about yesterday really would have stopped he deal -- because McConnell and the boys, naturally, refused to entertain it.
They insisted on having the straight vote they conspired to lose to make sure they give Iran their nukes and the Donor Class gets its new trading partners. Here's the vote: they all voted in favor of it. Yes, all of them, because they all knew this had been prearranged months ago. This last vote was just the last act of Failure Theater. To hell with them all.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Chris not Rock at September 10, 2015 04:59 PM (+HGRQ)
Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at September 10, 2015 05:00 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: ginaswo at September 10, 2015 05:00 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: cajun caret at September 10, 2015 05:01 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 10, 2015 05:01 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at September 10, 2015 05:02 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Yo! at September 10, 2015 05:03 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Ace at 04:58 PM
Ace, I propose you fundamentally change the nature of your blog from one documenting the political decline of America, to one about how to survive as a conservative in fascist America.
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:03 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: spypeach is confused why she's confused at September 10, 2015 05:04 PM (KTiWT)
Posted by: Trump's Merkin Helmet at September 10, 2015 05:04 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2015 05:04 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:04 PM (LUgeY)
And isn't this really the story of Obama?
Or his legacy, I guess.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: skip at September 10, 2015 05:05 PM (+ijhH)
That poor dog in the sidebar looks like a kangaroo.
Israel has had to deal with a lot of shit. It never effing stops.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 05:05 PM (iQIUe)
No? Then certainly, Boehner or McTurtle would gladly handle the chore, all while bitching about how hard they're having to fight against Tehran.
It is this fecklessness which puts me more on the side of Trump, even though I think he's rude, crude and mannerless when it matters.
I'll take the bad manners if it helps to muck out the Augean Stables which lies inside of the vaunted beltway.
Either a "Trump" will clean it out, or an Iranian ICBM will, sooner or later.
Choose........ wisely.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 10, 2015 05:05 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: Yo! at September 10, 2015 05:05 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: GBruno at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (EUMr7)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (evdj2)
She at least has a principle she is trying to uphold. I dislike her stand, and everything she represents, but at least she has a principle.
What principle do the GOPe uphold? Where is their line-that-shall-not-be-crossed? Asshats rule us.
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (TxJGV)
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The great thing about China is you don't have to listen to the objections of the American People.
Posted by: Thomas Friedman at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (gmeXX)
*daydreams*
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:07 PM (NOIQH)
They all want the Republican to lose quietly, with dignity, as they always do.
This Trump fellow is a bit to garish for their taste. The kind of ungentlemanly type that goes on to win 49 states.
What to do. What to do.
If only there were a way to impart the special kind of knowledge that one has when they are paid to think...
Posted by: jwest at September 10, 2015 05:07 PM (Zs4uk)
Choose........ wisely.
/takes out coin
Heads it's the Cranial Honey Badger, tails it's the Great Sky Shiitake...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 10, 2015 05:07 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:07 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: GBruno at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: MTF
Impacting their cash flow, their current and future bennies, and their exemption from the horrible laws they shackle the rest of us with.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: X at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (57fhp)
Posted by: Harry Reid at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: skip at September 10, 2015 05:08 PM (+ijhH)
Posted by: A Nuclear Iran at September 10, 2015 05:09 PM (nc+gz)
It's amazing what people can rationalize: They (the Iranian govt) don't even want nukes; they wanted a big bargaining chip. Or, OK, they want nukes, but for reasons of national pride (this program started under the Shah), not to actually use them. They wouldn't be so crazy. Under the bluster they're actually fairly rational. They don't want to be pariahs anymore.
And, of course: We never were going to stop them from getting nukes if they really wanted them, so we may as well get the best deal we can, figure out to contain them, and hope for the best.
None of the above is an endorsement. This deal makes a nuclear exchange more likely.
Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2015 05:09 PM (1TS9R)
Yes, you've exposed us. We're all about the manners. Not that the man can't take a position and defend it to save his life.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: Warden at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (wHAYQ)
"Has JeffB taken his victory lap yet?"
And Jennifer Rubin. She wrote a pissy post yesterday that Cruz was going to ruin evrything by holding up the vote.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (OD2ni)
I will never vote for another GOP incumbent again.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2015 05:10 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson year 2030 at September 10, 2015 05:11 PM (e7T6D)
Bang bang
Kojak!
*waves American flag*
Posted by: ginaswo at September 10, 2015 05:11 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: Jefe Jeb at September 10, 2015 05:11 PM (wAQA5)
It just doesn't compute!
How do so many people get swayed to the dark side?
I'm gonna open the good bottle tonight.
Posted by: spypeach is confused why she's confused at September 10, 2015 05:11 PM (KTiWT)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Soona at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (Fmupd)
perhaps some day they will be the Organ Donor Class...
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (JPBdn)
Upsetting. Very upsetting.
Iran, what? Listen, the GOP did the best they could. We just need to elect more next time.
Posted by: Warden at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (wHAYQ)
I went in there thinking the deal was a bad idea, but after being schooled by those more knowledgeable than I am, my remaining questions are:
So, will Iran go nuclear immediately after the agreement expires, or before then? And, will they actually declare, or just sort of let be the worst-kept secret since Israel's nuclear capability?
Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (1TS9R)
Ace, I propose you fundamentally change the nature of your blog from
one documenting the political decline of America, to one about how to
survive as a conservative in fascist America.
...
I second the idea.
/of course, how long do we really have, now that Herr Obama has given Iran the means to bring back the Mahdi?
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (MMfRt)
I'm going to go start watching the new episodes of Longmire.
Time to disappear for a couple hours.
/wave
have a good evening
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 10, 2015 05:13 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 05:13 PM (ry4ab)
As I kill your TV screen
Out to destroy all I can
If you know what I mean
Dullards to the left of me
And fools to the right
Ain't got no gun
Ain't got no knife
Don't you start no fight
'Cause I'm EMP, and a flash of light
EMP, and I'll win the fight
EMP, I'm a power load
EMP, watch me explode
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (oDCMR)
Fuck you, GOP: Trump.
Posted by: Max Power at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (q177U)
A lot of home movies of shtetl life before the war have been put on line. I find them interesting. Most were filmed by visiting relatives from abroad. And almost all the people you see were murdered a few years later:
http://polishjews.yivoarchives.org/videos
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (iQIUe)
Fireworks coming soon. They know an existential threat we they see it.
Posted by: Nikkolai at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (aSm5i)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (wAQA5)
Backroom deals (bribery) and blackmail?
Bet most of them figure they won't be around when TSHTF so why not get something out of a "Yes" vote. Look at all the Dem fools who voted for Obamacare then retired - I'm sure they all landed in comfy DC jobs.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2015 05:14 PM (OCcU9)
The warmongering extremists must not be allowed to dictate our foreign policy.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 10, 2015 05:15 PM (Ui7Rt)
Even before this sham vote was taken today, the obama White House already beating the scare-mongering drums about the looming govt shutdown in 3 weeks.
obama, once again, warned Republicans to give him everything he wants and not shut down the his government, or the Sheriff "gets it" -- /obama holding a gun to his own head
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:15 PM (JPBdn)
It just doesn't compute!
How do so many people get swayed to the dark side?
Good questions, all. I can't figure any of this out either. It appears the entire world has gone bugfvck crazy recently.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:15 PM (LUgeY)
This is not going to end well, is it? Normally one would think, "Ok, the stupid Dems own this." But if we are all daid it won't matter.
I hope Israel bombs the nuke sites to glass.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 10, 2015 05:15 PM (9XthY)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (evdj2)
Australia. Same deal with no guns and hot girls.
I am packing, where to go?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (0FSuD)
Did you guys know that Donald Trump said something mean about a woman?
Upsetting. Very upsetting.
Iran, what? Listen, the GOP did the best they could. We just need to elect more next time.
Posted by: Warden at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (wHAYQ)
You sound like a fine young man with a good head on his shoulders. How'd you like to work for a winning team?
Posted by: NRCC at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (Agn5J)
Ace, I propose you fundamentally change the nature of your blog from
one documenting the political decline of America, to one about how to
survive as a conservative in fascist America.
...
I second the idea.
--------
I'll 3rd that.
And how do I explain this insanity to my kids?
Posted by: GBruno at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: El Kabong at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (9oC/Q)
At least Arlen Specter had the both the balls and decency to switch parties instead of continuing to pretend he was a Republican.
(yeah, I repeated it from yesterday. Sue me; I think it's a damn good zinger that no one else came up with.)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (1TS9R)
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You're funny. And the dullards hosting that meeting are funny too. Ahran has absolutely no intent on following this agreement. All they wanted was the money and the sanctions lifted. They're laughing their asses off right now.
Posted by: Soona at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (Vha1U)
Far more money would be made investing in Russia than in Iran; the cultural barriers are far lower meaning it would be easier to accept Russia as the neutral party and Iran as the enemy instead of the Political Class telling us the exact opposite - that Iran is now our partner and Russia is still our enemy. Even if you take into account former Cold War animosity and Russian aggression in Eastern Europe - how is that a problem when the Political Class thinks Americans will overlook the Iranian Revolution and Iran destabilizing the entire Middle East through their proxies?
There has to be something other than corporate profit at play here for the Uni-party Washington Establishment because I don't think business interests are behind the support for this treaty at all - and if they are it is not profit motive.
Posted by: Jordan at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (r9mDd)
Posted by: Randull Hultguunson at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (3Zihf)
Every dollar of tax you have paid and will ever pay to the Federal government in your entire life, along with all the taxes ever on everyone reading this, will now be sent directly to the mullahs of Iran.
That is what is euphemized in the deal as "aid to Iran".
Think about it.
Civil disobedience, anyone?
Posted by: zombie at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Nip Sip
I have to get away from this computer. I swear I read that as "Good fisting," and thought, wtf?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (/Ho8c)
Since WW2, we have not won, and in fact lost, many 'wars', usually through politics...
But the results of those loses did not impact America directly... so they do not understand the consequence, because it did not affect their lives directly.
Viet Nam, Afghanistan... Iraq... how did failures there impact the homeland??? Impact Washington?
They didn't.... so they do not understand the consequence of the 'game' they are playing.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (qh617)
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (Ph45J)
Posted by: Advice that might come in handy someday at September 10, 2015 05:19 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 10, 2015 05:19 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Trump's Merkin Helmet at September 10, 2015 05:04 PM (1DH1V)
Hang on there, cowboy.
Posted by: God at September 10, 2015 05:19 PM (vgIRn)
Ok, what next?
Posted by: Randull Hultguunson at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (3Zihf)
===================================
There is no next. This is it. We're here.
Gird your loins.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 10, 2015 05:19 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:18 PM (e7T6D)
So.... I'll lose about three hours once every couple months?
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (oDCMR)
Wait, wrong Theater.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
In the not too distant future
Next Sunday A.D.
Posted by: Gypsy at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (W5DcG)
Also, Israel is not going to let itself get nuked. Iran on the other hand...
Posted by: El Kabong at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (9oC/Q)
Yes, you're very European, you preening lack-dicks.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (LAe3v)
Which is entirely, possible, since it is not a treaty.
Since 80% of Americans hate the deal, it's a winning platform for any candidate.
Posted by: zombie at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (e7T6D)
Interesting. Blog commenting *is* my drinking time.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)
Deer lord, Mitch McConnell as a Roman gladiator? I would pray for death at the hand of the Goths, Visigoths, or Huns.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (LYqIl)
Gird your loins.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 10, 2015 05:19 PM (dFi94)
Yes. That's what I'm saying.
http://tinyurl.com/lozxs9m
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (1hM1d)
Not high.
Jobs. Economy. Health care. Schools.
I'm not saying that people shouldn't care about Iran. I'm just saying that they don't.
The folks in DC understand that and have voted accordingly. Furthermore, there is not a statistically-significant percentage of Republican primary voters that will decide their vote on this issue, either. It is always pocketbook issues and will always be pocketbook issues.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 10, 2015 05:21 PM (ljZD2)
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (hUdMz)
Ace, I propose you fundamentally change the nature of your blog from one documenting the political decline of America, to one about how to survive as a conservative in fascist America.
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:03 PM (9UV3C)
As one of you fuckers observed about Massachusetts, "conservatives survive here like humans hiding from SkyNet".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (o98Jz)
Now that the battle is over, the Republican candidates (and the Republican party) can come out of their hiding places vehemently against it.
THIS is what pisses me off me more than the deal, itself -- the semi-clandestine betrayal by the Republicans. Unacceptable.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (e7T6D)
But when they *did* control all three branches of government, did they advance even one conservative cause? No. What *did* they do? They tried to give us illegal alien amnesty.
Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (ihXsr)
They lacked TWO votes to block it. TWO. And we are giving, what, a billion or so to Iran? To build the nukes? Gird your loins is right. And have a drink. It is 5pm somewhere.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (9XthY)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (0tvq+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (evdj2)
97 As if millions of Americans could fly to NZ or Oz. Something on that scale could only be accomplished using railway cars.
You'll forgive me if I don't voluntarily step onto said rail car...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (1hM1d)
So, will Iran go nuclear immediately after the agreement expires, or before then? And, will they actually declare, or just sort of let be the worst-kept secret since Israel's nuclear capability?
Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2015 05:12 PM (1TS9R)
My guess is they already have nukes...
And that this 150 billion dollar bribe is so they won't ANNOUNCE they have nukes, until Obama is out of Office.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (qh617)
I'm not saying that people shouldn't care about Iran. I'm just saying that they don't.
Did you miss the part where only 21% supported this shit?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (1DH1V)
Trumpetdaddy is right.
Posted by: The third Johnson at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Trombonedaddy at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (eldRR)
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 05:06 PM (TxJGV)"
Don't threaten our phony baloney jobs or we will conspire with the Democrats to unleash the IRS on your organizations and not only will they refuse to allow tax exempt status to organizations that legitimately deserve it but they will harass anybody who participates in that exercise in democracy.
That is the the unbending principal of the GOPe. Stopping Muslim lunatics from getting nuclear weapons, not so much.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (QHgTq)
nomination and then the presidency in a walk, all he has to do is
announce that on his first day in office, he will unilaterally rescind
this deal.
================================
I disagree. The trust is gone. What comes out of the mouth of a politician is meaningless. Especially one running for office. Once the trust is gone, it takes a miracle to bring it back. No one believes them anymore. Any of them.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:20 PM (oDCMR)
I don't remember who it was directed at, but Ace was pretty vehement that the "cuck" thing was unacceptable around here earlier, since it is a commonly used white supremacist thing. just fyi.
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (9UV3C)
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All true. But I'll give Boehner somewhat of a pass here. This squarely falls on the Senate.
I was glad to see Rand Paul take such a firm stance in favor of the Constitution.
Posted by: Thomas Friedman at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (gmeXX)
There's a huge postal facility which meticulously screens every last piece of incoming mail to the Capitol and the White House, including irradiating it all to kill any biological stuff. Seriously.
Because, of course, Your Betters must be protected from even the most minor of threats.
I'm figuring it won't be too long before the Navy is ordered to put an Aegis antiballistic missile system on a barge in the Potomac, because again, Your Betters are nothing if not solicitous about their own personal safety.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: post Pearl Harbor voters at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Methos at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: wth at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (wAQA5)
What name has the IDF already assigned for the bunker-busting aerial bombing campaign that will happen sometime in the mountains of Iran in the next year or two?
I vote for "Operation Eighth Plague."
Posted by: zombie at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (jBuUi)
Myth, my lily white ass.
Worst. Gods. Ever. Tenure.
Posted by: neal at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (2z4UX)
What did you expect them to accomplish without 60 votes in the Senate,
the Presidency, another 20 billion in donations, some nice lambos, two
dozen high priced hookers (all natural, no surgeries) and a solid gold
slide that shoots down into a pool filled with chocolate fondue?
Posted by: El Kabong at September 10, 2015 05:17 PM (9oC/Q)
Thread participation trophy?
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015
Irony
Slathered thick
I'll take my country with a well done glow please.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: A Nuclear Iran at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (nc+gz)
"I guess what I don't understand is ultimately there kids will be incinerated too. How are so many people so corrupt?"
They think they and their families will be spared somehow or they are so deeply in denial/corruption the consequences of their actions don't even register.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (+aCe4)
I don't often agree with Lindsay Graham on anything but fighting radical islam. He says, paraphrased, to the Dems: "You own this...every 'i' every 't'...you own this. And it will be holy hell."
And are you buying this bullshit, hun?
Sorry but the Republicans own this as much as obama. All of them.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 05:22 PM (o98Jz)
You live in holes in the ground and only go out at night?
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (9UV3C)
David Brock's war against the New York Times just went nuclear - and the paper is responding with equal fury.
Brock, the former right-wing journalist-turned-pro-Clinton crusader, takes aim at a top New York Times editor in a soon-to-be released book obtained by POLITICO. In the book, titled "Killing the Messenger: The Right-Wing Plot to Derail Hillary Clinton and Hijack Your Government," Brock accuses senior politics editor and former Washington bureau chief Carolyn Ryan of helping to turn the paper into a "megaphone for conservative propaganda by unfairly targeting former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
[Politico: http://tinyurl.com/oxcu5km ]
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (qSIlh)
DERP marches bravely forward into the future, banners held high!
Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (noWW6)
Didn't they also pass the Corker deal?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (evdj2)
Do you live in DC or NYC, perhaps?
I'm here in a flyover state, and - get this - even my 12 year old son knows about the deal and cares about Iran getting nukes.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (NOIQH)
nomination and then the presidency in a walk, all he has to do is
announce that on his first day in office, he will unilaterally rescind
this deal."
Walker did that weeks ago. It's part of his "Day One" agenda. This is known.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 10, 2015 05:25 PM (ljZD2)
Which is entirely, possible, since it is not a treaty.
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Ya I don't think Iran will just mail back the money. And they're building nukes no matter what.
Posted by: GBruno at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (1DH1V)
TExas? New Zealand? An island somewhere in the Carribbean? a boat in international waters?
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (HXzvr)
Not going to happen. But if you have the talent, you could always start your own. Places where ideas can be discussed are always welcome.
Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (ihXsr)
even though I think he's rude, crude and mannerless when it matters."
-16
Remind me again- which foot had the spur which kept the feckless pussy from manning up?
Yeah, Trump will stop Iran. Same guy who said that the deal was done, but that would "police it", without having means within the terms to do so.
I look at the excuse making and just laugh and laugh.
Posted by: Fringe at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (+GIZJ)
Posted by: Sho Nuff at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (GyLbC)
two dozen high priced hookers (all natural, no surgeries)
Send those my way. I've been abstaining somewhat from the AoSHQ Lifestyle, so nothing like a dozen high end escorts. Oh, and they're not hookers until they're found dead in Mitch McConnell's bed.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (1hM1d)
piece of incoming mail to the Capitol and the White House, including
irradiating it all to kill any biological stuff. Seriously.
It ain't just CH.
Posted by: pep, who likes his mail 3 weeks late and extra crispy at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (LAe3v)
I am packing, where to go?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (0FSuD)
....................
South... way, way south. Then south for a ways.
Posted by: wth at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (wAQA5)
My guess is they already have nukes...
And that this 150 billion dollar bribe is so they won't ANNOUNCE they have nukes, until Obama is out of Office.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (qh617)
$10 says that regardless of the agreement timetable, they announce right after the check clears.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (o98Jz)
Jobs. Economy. Health care. Schools. ...
The folks in DC understand that and have voted accordingly.
Which is why the unemployment rate is so low, ESL and third-world diseases are virtually nonexistent in our schools, health care is a high functioning capitalist system and the DOW has had it's best year ever.
Thanks, GOP!
Posted by: Trombonedaddy at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (eldRR)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (W5DcG)
***
Did they finally come out in favor of cocksuckers getting married?
Posted by: cool arrow at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (g2DAI)
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (hUdMz)
Fuck it. Fuck the GOP. Fuck those fail theater motherfuckers right in the fucking face.
My vote is going to be gasoline on the fire. I want Trump to win now because who fucking cares? I want people in there that want to wreck the system and pull the whole rotten mess down. I want people who are willing to tell the McConnell's, Reids, Pelosi's and Boheners of Congress to fuck themselves with a razor blade covered baseball bat.
I want people who want to radically change the system so that the lazy, ignorant, ill informed, hand out taking motherfucking average voter suddenly wakes up and realizes that the room, known as America, that was simply smoke filled is now an inferno and we have blocked the exits with politicians dead bodies.
2016 should not be about keeping the GOP in control of government. 2016 needs to be about cleaning house -- every dirty, lousy, stinking, no good, rotten to the core politician who has served more than 3 terms and is up for election needs to be voted out. I don't give a fuck how good of a politician they have been -- they have been there too fucking long and need to go go go.
2016 is about burning it all down and then shifting through the ashes.
Posted by: Nevyan at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (zxWyw)
We'll nuke Hawaii first. Suck on that Barry Soetoro!
Posted by: A Nuclear Iran at September 10, 2015 05:24 PM (nc+gz)
Always with the silver lining.
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (1DH1V)
In 2015 Republicans have 54 Senators and they can't stop Obama's Iran plan.
But yeah, we must vote "R" each and every time.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (0LHZx)
Didn't they also pass the Corker deal?
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I guess; though I still do not know why since it has nothing to do with the House.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (+aCe4)
I expect the 2015 Republicans to be Totes Against this treaty.
Then I expect the 2016 Republicans to be Totes for Repeal AND REPLACE this treaty with Iran.
Finally, I expect the 2017 Republicans to come to us and say, we'll fight it in Court! And then lose. And then give up by saying it's settled.
Past is prologue, or some shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (JPBdn)
The long knives even on FOX are out for Trump, and most of the tea party style candidate are wimpy (Walker backs down on anchor babies, won't comment on refugees) ... and Cruz is not a friend of many Republicans.
Giuliani and some other kinda serious folks think Trump can be serious, even if he has a lot to learn on all the geo political stuff. He may be our only hope, obi one konobi.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 10, 2015 05:26 PM (HXzvr)
=========================
It's what he does. Has always done. Will always do. Knowing that, it bothers me not.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at September 10, 2015 05:28 PM (dFi94)
We could use this thread to make an updated "little list" like the executioner does in the Mikado, of people that would be on our execution list. But avoiding the usual suspects like congress. Social offenders, etc.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NLV24qTnlg
I'll start:
That person in the office that forgets the fridge is communal, and steals your clearly marked yogurt and leaves you not a spoonful.
They'll none of them be missed, I'll put them on the list!
Posted by: LizLem, falling down on the job as a writer at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (hvf9s)
I vote for "Operation Eighth Plague."
Posted by: zombie at September 10, 2015 05:23 PM (jBuUi)
Unfortunately, Israel is too scared shitless to do anything. Israel knows that if they attack Iran (and especially if they attack it the way they will have to to get rid of iran's nuke program) then the EU and Barky will come down on Israel like a ton of bricks and immediately institute sanctions, embargoes and, perhaps, even a blockade. This is what Barky has been trying to instigate the whole time of his illegitimate tenure - to force Israel to take action to then use as ammunition to turn the whole West against Israel and kill it once and for all. The Euros, of course, have always hated Israel and have been itching to use any excuse to destroy the place.
This was the plan from the beginning with Barky. Make Israel take out Iran and then use that "war crime" as the pretext for taking out Israel. It's been clear from 2008. And Israel is too scared to step into that morass.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Sho Nuff at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (GyLbC)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (Agn5J)
And utterly immaterial. The sanction are over, the horse has left the barn and is capering down Main Street.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (W5DcG)
__________
So a bank robber stashes away $100K. Then a few years later he gets a pardon and is allowed to go get his $100K. After all it's only his money.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (0LHZx)
which just happens to have an appropriate song for exactly this circumstance-
"As Someday It May Happen"
which is sung by Ko-Ko, The Lord High Executioner.
Here's the song itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOzNAKPCR80
Pixy, won't let me post the lyrics for some reason. But, check them out if you wish, and see that quite a few of the same types of dickweeds that infest America today-
infested G&S's Great Britain.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (0cMkb)
Why the hell is Gabe defending the GOP leadership on twitter?
Because i) Gabrial Malot is an obama supporter/voter, and ii) has never been on the right side of an issue in his short life.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (JPBdn)
We should see if we could talk AllenG into starting a blog. I always like his comments here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (LUgeY)
Unfortunately, Israel is too scared shitless to do anything. Israel knows that if they attack Iran (and especially if they attack it the way they will have to to get rid of iran's nuke program) then the EU and Barky will come down on Israel like a ton of bricks and immediately institute sanctions, embargoes and, perhaps, even a blockade. This is what Barky has been trying to instigate the whole time of his illegitimate tenure - to force Israel to take action to then use as ammunition to turn the whole West against Israel and kill it once and for all. The Euros, of course, have always hated Israel and have been itching to use any excuse to destroy the place.
This was the plan from the beginning with Barky. Make Israel take out Iran and then use that "war crime" as the pretext for taking out Israel. It's been clear from 2008. And Israel is too scared to step into that morass.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM
What You said made me really depressed.... Because it's sadly true...
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: the Butcher at September 10, 2015 05:30 PM (fUjxW)
Every dollar of tax you have paid and will ever pay to the Federal government in your entire life, along with all the taxes ever on everyone reading this, will now be sent directly to the mullahs of Iran.
That is what is euphemized in the deal as "aid to Iran".
Think about it.
Civil disobedience, anyone?"
I'm taking it to the streets as soon as the jihadeegees start to arrive here. I'll support a national strike if one gets called and waste even more time on the computer.
Jeb Bush just was on Hannity. Rather than give his normal blow job to a GOP hump, Hannity actually asked the governor some real questions. First, Bush wouldn't answer directly about shutting down the government over Planned Parenthood. Jeb's refusal to say one way or another is a big, fat "yes." No surprise there. Then Bush said we should take in jihadeegees but tried to be coy about it. Hannity actually pushed him a bit and, for him in an interview with any Republican, kind of disagreed.
Sign me up for the Mother of all Fergusons if this one goes down. Too many young men and women died in Iraq and Afghanistan to bring the enemy to these shores. #dhimmilivesmatter
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (pq97T)
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I guess I just live in this fantasy world where a nuclear deal between our country and a sworn enemy would normally be considered a treaty.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (D8Aef)
but that would 'police it', without having means within the terms to do
so."
Which is, ceteris paribus, the Hillary Clinton position.
She says that she'll (riffing on Reagan's "trust but verify" with Gorbachev) "mistrust and verify" the deal that Obama has cooked up.
Without actually having any real world means of, y'know, _verification_. But she'll totes do it! Serious you guys!
Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (ljZD2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (evdj2)
I didn't back down.
Posted by: Scott Walker at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM (Ui7Rt)
I wanted to say this, I spent the last 2 years on the hill working for a rep from the midwest before moving back home to be with my now wife. I think the real issue here is Fox News.
Most members of congress read a little bit of the papers (WaPo/Politico/the Hill) and then get the rest of their news from Fox News.
Since 2012 when Romney lost, Fox has been trending to the left. Not egregiously so, but enough that they are no longer in tune with the average GOP voter across the country. (This is one of the reasons the Megyn Kelly comments didn't destroy Trump a lot of grassroots people aren't huge fans of some of the things she says).
Because of this disconnect, I honestly think McConnell and the rest of Senate Leadership doesn't understand the true frustration with how they are handling this whole situation. Fox News (was) giving them rave reviews for 'governing' and 'doing the job they went to DC to do' meanwhile people in Ohio, New Hampshire, SC, Iowa and what-have-you are starting to move to the let it burn side of the fence.
I don't have much data to back me up on this, but I do go out bar hopping a lot and talk to people about politics and I've never seen the amount of raw anger that is spewing forth. Trump is going to hit 40% by the end of the month.
Posted by: thesleepestofsouls at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM (CBGRs)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM (xpmPK)
I didn't back down.
Posted by: Scott Walker at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM
Thank You for making Me laugh...
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM (hUdMz)
So the question? New Zealand. They speak English, nice people, but socialist. Good fishing.
Australia. Same deal with no guns and hot girls.
I am packing, where to go?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 05:16 PM (0FSuD)"
There is nowhere on Earth to go to. Unless you have a rocket that will take you and enough supplies to the Moon or asteroid belt, you are pretty much fucked.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (QHgTq)
We could use it about now.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (UhRGU)
Gah. You beat me.
Well, people who post the same thing before I do
definitely belong on the "little list."
And they never would be missed.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (0cMkb)
If the States still appointed Senators, Commiefornia would be sending two individuals probably even more wretched than Feinstein and Boxer. Think long and hard about that one for a minute.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 05:31 PM (D8Aef)
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I never get this argument. How do you figure the senate would be any less corrupt if senators were appointed instead of elected? If anything they'd be even more corrupt since they would have absolutely zero accountability to their constituents.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (oDCMR)
Every single GOP senator?
What was the vote total?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 10, 2015 05:34 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (vgIRn)
Nah. I don't give two shits if I get banned. Gabe's an asshole.
Posted by: cool arrow at September 10, 2015 05:34 PM (g2DAI)
would be sending two individuals probably even more wretched than
Feinstein and Boxer. Think long and hard about that one for a minute.
Posted by: torquewrench
The States should still appoint Senators. The States do not have representation in the current arrangement.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:34 PM (/Ho8c)
Can't wait till We get Our 100,000, I mean 10,000...
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:34 PM (hUdMz)
If crude politicians like Trump could learn to sell us out in a more polished way, I think that I could really get behind them. But they are just so crass I can't bring myself to approve of them. Well, that and the fact that I don't think Trump is a true, bonafide Republican warrior like Bob Corker.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 10, 2015 05:35 PM (7KwGE)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:35 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: Malcolm Tent
I am ashamed that I voted for Corker.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Scott Walker at September 10, 2015 05:32 PM
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I read this as "sweaters full."
I need a girlfriend.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (Uk9e2)
Senate Leadership doesn't understand the true frustration with how they
are handling this whole situation.
If true, that's the strongest possible reason to kick these insensate worms to the curb.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (W5DcG)
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They are terrorists. The money shd go to their victims. Now, it will go to funding more terrorist acts.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 10, 2015 05:36 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (0LHZx)
Not to get into the "better or worse" debate, but Senators' constituents are supposed to be their states. The people are represented byt heir ... representatives. The Senate is there for state representation in the legislature to look after the interests of the states, themselves ... and, if appointed by the states they would certainly be accountable to them.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:37 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 10, 2015 05:37 PM (7KwGE)
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 05:37 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (9XthY)
If the States appointed Senators, most of these clowns would be Senators.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (xpmPK)
That person in the office that forgets the fridge is communal, and
steals your clearly marked yogurt and leaves you not a spoonful.
They'll none of them be missed, I'll put them on the list!
Posted by: LizLem, falling down on the job as a writer at September 10, 2015 05:29 PM (hvf9s)
Dogshitters. People that (looking around to ensure nobody is looking) allow their dog to shit on peoples' lawns, who then take a last glance to ensure they are in the clear, then walk away to allow somebody else to clean up after them. Damn them to hell!
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (1DH1V)
They would live under the threat of immediate recall if they didn't tow the line. The average person doesn't understand how much damage was done and how the foundation was laid for today's problems during the progressive age of the early 20th century. And once it starts, sh!t rolls downhill fast.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (D8Aef)
Posted by: donna at September 10, 2015 05:38 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (W7w/T)
Posted by: maddogg at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (xWW96)
"Because i) Gabrial Malot is an obama supporter/voter, and ii) has never been on the right side of an issue in his short life."
That sure seems to explain it.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (0x/TW)
If I told you on September 12, 2001 that a man with a paper-thin resume and ties to terrorists with the middle name "Hussein" would be the next president and sign a deal with Iran to allow them to make nuclear weapons and unfreeze Iran's $150 Billion in assets and also lift the Cuban embargo, would you have believed me?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (JPBdn)
The President knows this and has shared the information with our other leaders.
In order to prevent needless bloodshed, they have arrived at this method to surrender while preserving some part of the national honor.
Occam Razor argument. It's the only one that explains it all.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (xq1UY)
They know how angry and frustrated people are, they simply do not care.
They answer to a higher authority and pay master.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (0tvq+)
Trump's an abrasive, abusive douchebag but he's far better than this shit.
Posted by: Motorhead at September 10, 2015 05:40 PM (jc4t8)
how's that? the states were and should be again their constituents.
Posted by: X at September 10, 2015 05:40 PM (57fhp)
When you are alone and life is making you lonely you can always watch -- GoatsLive....
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/goatslive
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 05:40 PM (iQIUe)
polished way, I think that I could really get behind them. But they are
just so crass I can't bring myself to approve of them. Well, that and
the fact that I don't think Trump is a true, bonafide Republican warrior
like Bob Corker.
Again, the Trumpets have exposed us in all our perfidy. It isn't that Trump has no principles, self-discipline, or consistency, no, it's that he isn't well-mannered. You caught us. Good job, sparky.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:40 PM (LAe3v)
It makes no sense.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (ihXsr)
Posted by: Juan McCain at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (zJ9UW)
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Illiniwek - Beck is the Applewhite of the Republican Heaven's Gate movement. He ain't right.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (oDCMR)
I wonder how the 4 Americans imprisoned in Iran feel as their country has not only abandoned them but are conspiring with the enemy?
I wonder how American veterans who have severe brain injuries, lost limbs, blinded and watched their buddies blown to by Iranian supplied arms feel today?
Posted by: Cheri at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (oiNtH)
I don't buy that the GOPe leadership is disconnected.
They know how angry and frustrated people are, they simply do not care.
They answer to a higher authority and pay master.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (0tvq+)
YES!!
Posted by: Ralph Nader at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (1DH1V)
steals your marked yogurt and leaves you not a spoonful.
The person who stands/places their cart in the middles of the store aisle and blabs loudly about personal stuff on their cell phone.
The person so enthralled w/texting/surfing on their phone they step off the curb onto oncoming traffic and/or s-l-o-w-l-y cross the street not bothering to notice that the light changed a while ago.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (NOIQH)
Because he's an agent of The Enemy?
Posted by: Methos at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (zJ9UW)
To put it another way:
What did you expect from a man with a shady past and a middle name Hussein to do??
This is what I expected, kinda. I didn't think the terrorist obama would be given a full 8 years to complete his plan, though.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:42 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM (JPBdn)
I would've assumed we had lost the War on Terror. Which increasingly looks to be the case.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (FFIoe)
My grand-daughter will soon get used to never seeing bacon on the shelves, listening to the call to prayer, not being able to go to school, and wearing a burkha so as not to offend!
Thanks a lot you progressive bastards!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (0LHZx)
'Republican Front-Runner Donald Trump'
Posted by: AOSHQ Style Guide at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (AdbAS)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: donna at September 10,
The GOP has been solid on gun control. And that is the only thing I can think of they've been solid on.
Judges-no
Attorney General-no
Amnesty-no
Obama Care-no
Fiscal Cliff-no
geez they are opposition party aren't they?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (OLNwX)
It makes no sense.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:41 PM (0LHZx)
It has nothing to do with accountability. It has to do with what interests they are supposed to be serving and whether that makes the federal government operate better. There's really no advantage to having both houses of Congress being people's representatives. The states have no voice in the law-making in Washington and that is a problem.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ryukyu at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (j29PP)
"Because of this disconnect, I honestly think McConnell and the rest of Senate Leadership doesn't understand the true frustration with how they are handling this whole situation. Fox News (was) giving them rave reviews for 'governing' and 'doing the job they went to DC to do' meanwhile people in Ohio, New Hampshire, SC, Iowa and what-have-you are starting to move to the let it burn side of the fence. "
You have described pre-Revolutionary France here. Even this degree of cluelessness and detachment doesn't surpass the greed, graft and corruption that underpin things such as today's sell-out of Iran. That's money talking, not ignorance.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 10, 2015 05:44 PM (ODxAs)
....but they won't. And then they'll fold on the debt ceiling in a couple weeks.
And then they'll send out requests for donations to continue to FIGHT!!!! Obama.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 10, 2015 05:44 PM (lRwmz)
"Conserving" gay marriage and all the failure theater.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 10, 2015 05:44 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: X
Exactly. The State governing bodies are their constituents.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:44 PM (/Ho8c)
So the sanctions will be lifted, by the UN if not by us.
Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (OmBeX)
That person in the office that forgets the fridge is communal, and steals your clearly marked yogurt and leaves you not a spoonful.
************
Bicyclists.
I win.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (zJ9UW)
Excellent point. Frustration and anger is building, and it will be vented. Those in the way will not enjoy it. Sadly, not all those in the way will deserve their fate.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: DaveA at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 05:33 PM (0cMkb)
*runs away from the executioner's blade three little maid's style*
Another:
The social justice warriors with hearts as black as coal, who ruin fun for everyone to daddy's wounds console
Posted by: LizLem, falling down on the job as a writer at September 10, 2015 05:45 PM (hvf9s)
Re: Malor
Let's cut the shit and stop chalking up his opinions as to always coincidentally being contrarian. Gabreil Malor is as conservative/right-wing as Rachel Maddow.
I mean once in a while having a different opinion or viewpoint is one thing, but young Mr Malor is consistently on the Other Side.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (JPBdn)
We're treated like the enemy by our own government: sexually assaulted in our own airports, under surveillance for no reason while terrorists bomb footraces, DC is filthy with MuzBro lovers and our CIC said he'd side with our enemies.
Yeah, we lost.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (LUgeY)
And yet he didn't vote to give Iran a nuke or to fund baby harvesting.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (xpmPK)
Betrayed yet again by traitors even more reprehensible than the Vichy/Quisling EU types! And dammit, this one really mattered!
My
grand-daughter will soon get used to never seeing bacon on the shelves,
listening to the call to prayer, not being able to go to school, and
wearing a burkha so as not to offend!
Thanks a lot you progressive bastards!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (ftVQq)
Over my dead body.
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:43 PM (zc3Db)
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Tell me how Senator Asshole appointed by the state legislature will serve his state better than Senator Asshole elected by residents of the state.
You are making the leap that the senator would have some sense of duty to the state because he was appointed vs elected. Why?
The end result woudl be the same.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2015 05:37 PM (zc3Db)
Yup.... one Senator should be appointed by the Governor of the State, the other by the Legislature of the State, and serve at their whim.... ie can be recalled by those entities at any time.
But then, the Vice President is also supposed to be President of the Senate...
So its all screwed up now...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (qh617)
Supporters of the deal claim that the money Iran is getting is merely Iran's own assets which were frozen somewhere in time.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 05:27 PM (W5DcG)"
I believe that the money is what the Shah's government had deposited in American banks when Jimmy Carter cut the legs out from under the Shah and the Ayatollah took over Iran. It has been sitting in American banks since then. I don't know if they have been paying interest on it for the last 35 years. I am curious as to what losing that $15 billion is going to do to the ability of the banks in which it has been sitting to meet their capital requirements.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (QHgTq)
Jack Burton said the line " May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather " and I choked up a little.
Seems like a lifetime ago when everyone felt that way...
Posted by: Mortimer at September 10, 2015 05:47 PM (AdbAS)
And that's why they do these things. They believe they are immune to any adverse consequences. They will personally profit from it. And they give not one fuck about *us*. They will watch us all be replaced by Mexicans and Indians, and they don't care. The Mexican model of a few wealthy whites at the top and millions of brown peasants below them is what they want.
Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 05:47 PM (ihXsr)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
Wow, good job Donald. This is the presidency, not the Special Olympics.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (LAe3v)
You are making the leap that the senator would have some sense of duty to the state because he was appointed vs elected. Why?
The end result woudl be the same.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (0LHZx)
There would be more turnover in the Senate... as State Governments seem to change more rapidly than Senators for some weird reason.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (qh617)
I mean once in a while having a different opinion or viewpoint is one thing, but young Mr Malor is consistently on the Other Side.
In his defense, I think he is as conservative as the GOP.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Eromero at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Jack
*stares*
You like goats that much?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (/Ho8c)
Yeah, we lost.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (LUgeY)
Also, we're not allowed to burn Korans or make anti-Mo videos.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (FFIoe)
You don't get it apparently. Go research how the system worked the first 140 years or so. Those 100 state legislators would surely care if their bidding was being done and they care about getting re-elected.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (D8Aef)
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (W7w/T)
Posted by: Sambo at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (9UV3C)
Posted by: Yip at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: Marcel Marceau at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (LUgeY)
The founding fathers had a pretty good idea of what they were doing; unfortunately there have been all too many LIVs since about (if not before) 1900.
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 05:49 PM (qSIlh)
they are already covered by the Cruisers in and around the Norfolk area...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:50 PM (qh617)
Posted by: joe at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (kRCdn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (LAe3v)
A good amount of his competition can't say the same thing.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (xpmPK)
Posted by: Methos at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Marcel Marceau at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (53CCM)
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Mark Steyn has made this point often. Someone like him would simply have to grow a beard in a Muslim run country. Gays would be stoned to death and women would have to wear burkas, not be allowed to go to school, can't drive, can be raped pretty much at will. Oh and 10 year old girls get married.
And yet odly enough, it's gays and feminists who embrace radical Islam while evil white men generally don't.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (0LHZx)
not really conservative. I do not believe for a minute that her roll
over like this.
Really? That's all it takes for you?
He's not one of the total a****ts of the universe! Let's make him President!!!!
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:52 PM (LAe3v)
Beck appears to have little testosterone, so you may be onto something here. The horizontal Nike show may not be far off, either. I caught Beck on the tube bitching and moaning that no one was paying attention to some freak show he put on in Alabama, and that Trump wouldn't be a guest on his show. He'll soon show up on the set in shades on a regular basis, and he and his beleaguered listeners eventually will cry and hoist a non-alcoholic, cyanide beverage in the direction of Hale-Bopp.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 05:52 PM (pq97T)
But then again, he was pimped by Boehner last year for not being pliant enough, so maybe a little payback.
Or maybe it's just obviously such a bad deal not enough voodoo politics butter can get smeared on to mask the smell.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2015 05:52 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 05:52 PM (0tvq+)
Posted by: The Last 8 Years at September 10, 2015 05:52 PM (AdbAS)
http://goo.gl/fNJl7X
Posted by: maddogg at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM
You know...I think I would have preferred a giant spider photo to a report that says "yeah...mixed gender combat units are less combat effective, but the military leadership really doesn't care."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (KrAjA)
legislature will serve his state better than Senator Asshole elected by
residents of the state.
You are making the leap that the senator would have some sense of duty to the state because he was appointed vs elected. Why?
The end result woudl be the same.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:46 PM (0LHZx)"
You can pretty much guarantee that the state legislators will pay more attention to what a Senator does in Washington than the average voter. You can also count on state legislators being more familiar with the type of legislative legerdemain and monkey business that Senators get away with now. I believe that the legislators would do a better job of holding Senators to account than every day people who have to work for a living and raise their families rather than spending all their time keeping tabs on their Senator's shenanigans.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (QHgTq)
There are a handful, maybe a handful and a half of elected Republicans in Washington worth a darn.
Let it burn. But first, let's drive this tanker of gas right into the cargo of phosphorus.
Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (2Ocf1)
This right here, the rapid descent of the USA under barack hussein obama, is the legacy of Bush/Cheney/Hastert/McConnell/Paulsen/Bernanke.
I know that stings a lot for some of you, but it's true.
It's time to stop feeding this monster.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (JPBdn)
State legislators don't want that power. Then they'd be responsible for everything a Senator said.
They want to go to the legislature and get a paycheck and vote on easy, popular things.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 05:54 PM (xpmPK)
You don't get it apparently. Go research how the system worked the first 140 years or so. Those 100 state legislators would surely care if their bidding was being done and they care about getting re-elected.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 05:48 PM (D8Aef)
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So the state senators care about re-election, but the senators who are - you know elected by the same constituents - don't care about getting re-elected.
Very informative. Thanks.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:54 PM (0LHZx)
Trump's gonna Trump, Gabe's gonna Gabe.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 10, 2015 05:54 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM
*waves*
Hi there!
Posted by: Meggido at September 10, 2015 05:54 PM (KrAjA)
This is the presidency, not the Special Olympics.
O rly?
Posted by: The Last 8 Years at September
I see. Barack Obama is now the bar one must clear to be a worthy president?
Pretty low bar.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 05:54 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Mortimer at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (AdbAS)
Posted by: spypeach is confused why she's confused at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (KTiWT)
The cashiers who can't add until they take their shoe's off
The flu-ridden who gel my hair with mucus when they cough-cough
They'll none of them be missed, I'll put them on the list!
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (0cMkb)
295 Here is a major shocker.......if you are an idiot.
http://goo.gl/fNJl7X
Posted by: maddogg at September 10, 2015 05:39 PM
You know...I think I would have preferred a giant spider photo to a report that says "yeah...mixed gender combat units are less combat effective, but the military leadership really doesn't care."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (KrAjA)
This is the same pentagon who is OK with Gays and Transexuals... and has cut our Armed Forces down to pre WW2 levels even though we have more than twice the population.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (qh617)
Except he's wrong.
I wouldn't just have to grow a beard.
I'd have to take up arms to protect my wife and daughter from the monsters.
The gays and feminists can't comprehend this thought.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
The basic idea, at least, is that the members of the State legislature personally know the Senator they are electing/appointing, most likely having worked with them in legislature or other State government functions. And the Senator is answerable to the much smaller body of the legislators, theoretically increasing their individual influence on the Senator.
The end result may very well be the same if the Senators are honorless thieves. But let's take a contrarian look: why shouldn't the Senators be appointed by the State legislature? Why should both houses be popularly elected? What purpose then do the two houses serve?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 10, 2015 05:56 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at September 10, 2015 05:56 PM (4UFKP)
Transexuals... and has cut our Armed Forces down to pre WW2 levels even
though we have more than twice the population.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM
Exactly. Pass the spiders.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2015 05:56 PM (KrAjA)
Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at September 10, 2015 05:00 PM (cgxNI)
We won't make it to November 2016.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 05:56 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 05:53 PM (QHgTq)
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Who do you think is a state legislator? In most states it's a part time job. In many states, the legislature gets together once every 2 years for 60 or 90 days. They make like $8K salary for doing it and are not going to spend their time keeping tabs on what the US Senator does.
So many people have these weird romantic notions of how the system works.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (oVJmc)
I counter that he couldn't possibly be any worse than the idiot who's in power now.
They don't like that much. I'm past the point of caring anymore and today's vote to give our enemies nukes just makes it worse.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (LUgeY)
My back is too sore to fall on the floor and do the Bishop after Yahphet Kotto knocks his head 1/2 off bit.
Posted by: DaveA at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: ginaswo at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 05:58 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 05:58 PM (zJ9UW)
But it was coming at least since the 60's with John Lennon singing imagine there are no borders, or the KKK Democrats suddenly becoming the civil rights leaders.William Buckley observed them taking our campuses, and they took Hollywood and our media, but we claim to have won the cold war. They just all moved here, and the KGB joined organized global crime.
But that's getting a little dark ... the question is, how do we change the tide? America is awakening, but our political/donor class still owns us. So Trump at least owns the message ... breaking the front line, establishing a beachhead is first.
But I'm no strategist ... it's just why I consider Trump, especially as I see Walker flail, and everyone else pretty weak. Trump has money and fame ... which is like an invading force. Maybe like us allied with Russia in WW2, idk. But we are at war.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 05:59 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: Donor Class at September 10, 2015 05:59 PM (xpmPK)
WaPo said 20,000 people went to his recreation of the MLK march thing; he got tons more people than Hillary! has at her rallies, I'll give him that. The MSM never covers the pro life rallies either, not sure what he's expecting.
But maybe if you want someone to come on your show, like Trump, maybe NOT castigating him as the worst candidate of all time is a good idea? But what do I know, I'm a Moronette not a media person.
Posted by: LizLem, falling down on the job as a writer at September 10, 2015 05:59 PM (hvf9s)
Giuliani and some other kinda serious folks think Trump can be serious, even if he has a lot to learn on all the geo political stuff. He may be our only hope, obi one konobi.
Deer lord. A recycled, rent-seeking, single-payer-loving democrat with no actual military or foreign policy experience is the best hope for the conservatives and libertarians?
Are the Kurds still seeking volunteers for the persmega? seems less suicidal.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 05:59 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (/Ho8c)
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I agree in theory with what you're saying. But in reality Joe Shmoe state legislator making $8K a year for working 60 days doesn't give a fuck who the US Senator is. He'll vote for whatever name comes to him from the state party apparatus. And since he wants to get home as quickly as possible, he won't spend weeks and weeks debating about who should be elected.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:00 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 06:00 PM (/Ho8c)
So less than 600 people are bullying a nation of 300+ million people... there must be something we can do...
Posted by: spypeach is confused why she's confused at September 10, 2015 05:55 PM (KTiWT)
ISWYDT
Posted by: Bob at NSA at September 10, 2015 06:00 PM (1DH1V)
He's an upgrade from Mitch McConnell or Boehner.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:01 PM (xpmPK)
And I know mine and know where she lives. I wod think I have a little more influence on a local person.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:01 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:02 PM (zJ9UW)
WaPo said 20,000 people went to his recreation of the MLK march thing; he got tons more people than Hillary! has at her rallies, I'll give him that. The MSM never covers the pro life rallies either, not sure what he's expecting.
Some of MLK's kin marched with Beck. That right there should make it news worthy. But that might clue in some persons of color that maybe the Dems are the be-all, end-all of their political aspirations.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 06:02 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:01 PM (48QDY)
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If you offered me $1M I couldn't name my state rep or senator. I know they are both Republican, and I voted for both, but I'll be damned if I have a clue who they are.
And it doesn't really matter either. I live in a deep blue state, but in a small corner of redness. So we elect Republicans 65/35 who then are part of a small minority in the state house with zero power.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:03 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 10, 2015 05:51 PM (oDCMR)
====================
oh ! look what time it is !
Posted by: Daniel, after 69 weeks at September 10, 2015 06:04 PM (dFi94)
If we still had that arrangement, letting the states appoint their US Senators would (ok, might) make sense, but at this point, you would probably get the same sort of US Senators you're getting now.
I'll support Trump if I decide he'll be able to clean up the worst half of the crap we have to deal with now.
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 06:04 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Donor Class at September 10, 2015 05:59 PM (xpmPK)
And that's a good thing.
What's important is not who controls the senators, but that it's a different set than the ones who control the House and the Presidency.
Different election mechanism pretty much guarantees a different set of controllers.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 10, 2015 06:04 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
That is a potential outcome, I agree. But I think that speaks more to the caliber of persons elected to State office than a fundamental flaw with the system.
Also would like to point out that the Senators we have now that are popularly elected aren't doing a bang-up job of being responsive to their constituency or acting honorably in discharging their duties of office and upholding their oaths. So yeah, in the present world, probably not a whole lot of difference how the scum makes it to the cesspool in DC.
If we had kept State-appointed Senators longer, the Federal government would likely not be nearly as powerful with respect to the States.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (/Ho8c)
No matter what you call yourself, you are still a smug little prick....and a stupid one to boot.
The explanation was clear.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Jon Stuart Leibowitz & 88% of Jewish voters at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (4UFKP)
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (48QDY)
Unlike the Senate change, I'm not even sure this would require a constitutional amendment.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2015 06:05 PM (2lndx)
Deer lord. A recycled, rent-seeking, single-payer-loving democrat
with no actual military or foreign policy experience is the best hope
for the conservatives and libertarians?
He's an upgrade from Mitch McConnell or Boehner.
So are my bowel movements. So what?
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 06:06 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: The Metal Hat at September 10, 2015 06:06 PM (P11N5)
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That's still kind of the case. Not a senator per county, but there are a lot fewer senators than reps, so small/rural counties still have more influence than populous counties in their state legislatures. That's how you get NY state to have a Republican senate.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:07 PM (0LHZx)
Now let's talk about Trump and why securing the border is a bad idea.
Posted by: Ben Carson at September 10, 2015 06:07 PM (Ui7Rt)
So many people have these weird romantic notions of how the system works.
In practice, what was happening was that votes for state legislatures were proxy votes for Senate. The Lincoln-Douglas debates? They were debates for who would be Senator from Illinois (Lincoln lost) but they weren't direct, they were meant to convince people to vote for the party that each one was from.
Electing a Senator was the biggest thing they did.
BTW, this is related to the Supreme Court. We need to elect the court because they are not in any way independent. Our elections for Senate and President are often tainted by which judges they will nominate and confirm.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 10, 2015 06:07 PM (Xd2w5)
I have to unzip my pants to count to twelve...
Posted by: ryukyu at September 10, 2015 06:08 PM (j29PP)
I'll take the upgrade and give them and the donor class the middle finger.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:08 PM (xpmPK)
He's an upgrade from Mitch McConnell or Boehner.
There is that. He does have a spine. And he does challenge the media, and doesn't apologize for it. But at least he's mostly good on gun control, so there is that as well.
I'll take the wait and see approach. If November 2016 ballot says "Trump/Nutz" I'll probably mark it for him. Because I certainly can't vote for the law breaker Clinton, nor the old socialist, and I doubt Jim Webb will get any traction. And don't mention Good Ol' Joe.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 06:08 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 06:08 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 06:04 PM (qSIlh)
Two things which I have confidence in him.
You're fired. Clean out the dead wood.
Hiring the right people. He didn't get where he is knowing about how to run a hotel or a golf course.
Re world affairs - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on finding the next MacArthur or Patton.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (zJ9UW)
Dildo, youre breaking Ace's rule.
Ace's house, Ace's rules. Isnt that what you always say? No personal attacks.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (JPBdn)
And who else can win? The big money and media have a more communist future in mind. I might change my statement to Trump being our only hope, in that others I like can't beat the machine. The tea party gave "us" both houses and they flip us the bird now.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (6zZ5y)
unfixable--the Senate--if we're going to be thinking about massively
changing the legislature, it would be better to return the House to one
representative for every 30,000 voters.
I think that also would have delayed significantly some of the rot in our government, simply due to gridlock and the difficulty of getting consensus. The House would be enormous and totally unwieldy, but the present system does not provide the level of popular representation that was intended.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
That's exactly what common citizens are quoted as saying in Europe and the USA just before WW II.
Posted by: Daybrother at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (Fqjnt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:09 PM (DUoqb)
It is far easier for K Street to grease 100 US senators who can then go bloviate to mostly uneducated voters and get re-elected than it is for said lobbyists to try and cover a thousand state legislators and hope as a group they appoint senators friendly to their agenda.
Also, I can tell you my State legislators do give a damn about their jobs and are in much more contact with their constituents that the average US congress person.
Again, your comments seem to ignore or be ignorant of the fact that we functioned just fine that way for well ove 100 years.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 06:10 PM (D8Aef)
Who would the state legislature appoint? Either an ex-governor or one of their own, a state legislator.
In the end you end up with the same people as US senators.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:10 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 10, 2015 06:10 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:11 PM (DUoqb)
Might as well piss off everyone who votes Dem, no? I think they could do the job of that and cutting a swath of hail in DC. Senator Cruz is a very, very smart man. Trump is a very smart businessman.
I'm in.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 10, 2015 06:11 PM (9XthY)
states it's a part time job. In many states, the legislature gets
together once every 2 years for 60 or 90 days. They make like $8K salary
for doing it and are not going to spend their time keeping tabs on what
the US Senator does.
So many people have these weird romantic notions of how the system works.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 05:57 PM (0LHZx)"
How much are sports fans paid to memorize statistics, talk endlessly about sports trivia or play in fantasy football leagues? Legislators are almost all people who think about politics all the time. A lot of them have been precinct captains and county chairmen and many of them want to become Congressmen and Senators. They pay a lot of attention to what is going on in their state capital and they pay no small amount of attention to what goes on in DC.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 06:11 PM (QHgTq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:12 PM (zJ9UW)
And this is where most male turtles' penises extend from. As I lack any male genitalia, this spot is clearly empty.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 10, 2015 06:12 PM (lRwmz)
Are you fucking kidding me??
Trump literally took on every fucking broad at the View and said he is defunding that shit. Watch that 10 minute interview. You will know why, barring anything crazy, Trump has got this fucker.
"Somebody's doing the raping."
Trump
2016
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 06:12 PM (W7w/T)
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 06:10 PM (D8Aef)
_______
And your comments pretend that the world of 2015 is the same as the world of pre-1913 (when the 17th was ratified). Sure it worked fine for 100+ years. Everything worked fine for 100+ years. And everything has fallen to total shit in the last 30-40 years. And if the 17th had never been ratified, the election of US senators would be a corrupt cesspool, no different than electing them by popular vote.
Why do you insist on keeping the romantic notion of the noble state legislature alive? It's a myth.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (0LHZx)
I would disagree completely with this. It is easier to buy off smaller constituencies.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (xpmPK)
Europe is committing suicide. We don't want to be left all alone.
Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (ihXsr)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
You talk as if there's no potential downside, no opportunity cost, to voting for this man instead of someone, you know, qualified. The problem is that there is a big potential downside.
If he wins, we lose, because at best he isn't qualified, and at worst, he turns out to be another liberal Dem, like his previous positions suggest he is. Or he just creates havoc by being an incoherent, narcissistic clown.
If he loses, we get another Dem.
Perhaps there is a third way. Perhaps we could pick someone with a record of accomplishment, and consistent, conservative positions.
Nahhhhhh, that'd be crazy.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Glenn Beck at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 10, 2015 06:11 PM (QHgTq)
________
That's valid.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (0LHZx)
He's an upgrade from Mitch McConnell or Boehner.
So are my bowel movements. So what?
We'll slide off into the abyss more slowly. Remember it took the Progressives the better part of 130 years to get us to this point. It isn't going to be turned around in one election, or even a dozen. So, first thing? stop the bleeding.
On the other hand, if you're in the LET IT BURN category, go vote for the Progressive nominee. With luck, that will be Sanders and the shit will hit the fan pretty quickly, once he raise the minimum wage and all.
Oh, and I asked his twitter feed that if $15/hr was good, why not raise to $100? Not shocked that there was no reply.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (1hM1d)
link?
Posted by: LizLem, falling down on the job as a writer at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (hvf9s)
On repealing the 17th Amendement. Two words.
Unfunded mandates.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (lRwmz)
http://bit.ly/1OE6H2v
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (TxJGV)
Groucho from "Duck Soup":
THE LAST MAN NEARLY RUINED THIS PLACE,
HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT
IF YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY'S BAD OFF NOW JUST WAIT TILL I GET THROUGH WITH IT
IF YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY'S
BAD OFF NOW JUST WAIT 'TIL I GET THROUGH WITH IT
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (qSIlh)
More truth than satire in that.
Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (53CCM)
Assholes don't yet know that almost everyone (except evidently Brit Hume) that this shit is all staged.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 06:16 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Mallflower at September 10, 2015 06:16 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 10, 2015 06:16 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 10, 2015 06:17 PM (2lndx)
It's not romantic. It's very pragmatic. Wake up and realize why things have actually gone to shit. It isn't merely because it's 2015 and things are different now. We are reaping what has been collectively sewn for a long time.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 06:17 PM (D8Aef)
Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2015 06:18 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 10, 2015 06:15 PM (lRwmz)
And the ugly one at that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:18 PM (DUoqb)
Very informative. Thanks.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
If there is no difference, why did they go to the trouble of amending the constitution? just because you don't get it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
Posted by: X at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (57fhp)
30+ states have passed some type of prohibition on gay marriage. The Senate would have been obliged to do the same.
This was the buffer against total democracy, otherwise know as mob rule.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: That poster who called it at HA, years ago at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: The Ataris at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (DUoqb)
What are the chances that tomorrow there is a major Islamic attack against USA interests somewhere?
And in Tehran they laughed and laughed; oh how they laughed.
Posted by: Daybrother at September 10, 2015 06:19 PM (tzRwt)
Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2015 06:18 PM (e3bId)
I forgot who coined it earlier today, but it would be great if it could trend on twitter:
#GOPhuckyourselves
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 06:20 PM (BZAd3)
None of these people are accomplished, except maybe Carson.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:20 PM (xpmPK)
America is looking to maintain liberty and Christian foundations, not looking to conquer and blame minorities. It seems almost an inverse of the rise of the third reich.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 06:20 PM (6zZ5y)
someone with a record of accomplishment, and consistent, conservative
positions.
Nahhhhhh, that'd be crazy.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (LAe3v)
Great idea! Now... among that collective group of Ringling Brothers employees currently running, who fits that description?*
*(Hint) None of them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2015 06:20 PM (TOk1P)
Yeah, And if a Bull had tits....So what's your point?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Seems Legit at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (Xa4vS)
Up until 1913 the state legislature would yank their ass back home.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (48QDY)
Bevel,
Disagree with you. This why special interests love big government. It's a one-stop shop. Otherwise they have to spread what they got around to too many places, and they can't do an end around the States.
So I guess dilution can be a solution to pollution.
Posted by: Pete at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (D8Aef)
You don't define my victory conditions.
If you want to talk about "we lose", that has happened with both Democrats and GOP. "lose less" is not a win.
So it's time to put the GOP out of its misery. Voting Trump will do that.
After that? Time to build from the ashes. Maybe Trump will aid that objective, maybe not. But GOP has not, and will not.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (0NdlF)
someone . . . .
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2015 06:13 PM (LAe3v)
lol
Posted by: rebel flounder at September 10, 2015 06:21 PM (1DH1V)
I don't know how to embed links but the website Trumpgasm has it linked. Also on his twitter feed.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 06:22 PM (W7w/T)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:22 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 10, 2015 06:23 PM (lRwmz)
Posted by: bour3 at September 10, 2015 06:23 PM (5x3+2)
The GOP clearly has some indication of how frustrated people are. That's why they stage failure theater that's sufficiently complicatedto get quite a few LIVs to believe it's all the Democrats fault. As long as theycan fool enoughof the people enough of the time, the gravy train keeps on going.
Posted by: There are some who call me ... Tim at September 10, 2015 06:23 PM (GC3nw)
pick someone with a record of accomplishment, and consistent,
conservative positions.
None of these people are accomplished, except maybe Carson.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:20 PM (xpmPK)
Yep. When I became single again, I used to say "All I want in a woman is for her to be single, sane, and reasonably attractive."
Two out of three will not cut it.
Same principle applies here.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2015 06:23 PM (TOk1P)
Jindal just blew his shot to be on Trump's ticket, that's all. Stupid move.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2015 06:24 PM (JPBdn)
Then I'm your "man."
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at September 10, 2015 06:26 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:26 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:26 PM (zJ9UW)
Is that a thing?
Posted by: Guvner R. Perri at September 10, 2015 06:27 PM (TOk1P)
He is also the second choice leader at 18%.
Um, he's beating Romney's numbers at this point in the nomination process.
"I am Batman."
Trump
2016
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 06:28 PM (W7w/T)
http://tinyurl.com/pytxtfe
Elementary students in TN made to recite the shahadah.*
*Yeah, the same one that Obama wears on his ring.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 06:28 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Trump should go take a shit on Wilson's grave. hell, I should too.
Posted by: X at September 10, 2015 06:28 PM (57fhp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 10, 2015 06:29 PM (W5DcG)
There's a CHANCE for opposition with Trump. If his interests align with ours, we'll get what we want.
Every other one of them will do what the donor class wants, which is low taxes for them, political correctness run amok, nukes for Iran, and baby parts for sale.
The last eight years are an unmitigated failure on every front. None of the current GOP should have the nerve to think they can run a country, especially after this disgraceful display.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:29 PM (xpmPK)
http://tinyurl.com/pmz6hoy
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 06:32 PM (0FSuD)
well, according to Islam, those kids all just converted to their religion.
And would be kafirs worthy of death if they recant and become Christians again.
Luckily, being a Christian alone is enough to make one a kafir. So they have that going for them. Which is nice.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 10, 2015 06:32 PM (AkOaV)
Yeah but Donald is gonna Say Something Really Bad and then he's done...
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2015 06:32 PM (JPBdn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 06:33 PM (DUoqb)
And yet some people here still can't seem to figure out why all the "Gabe hate" here. Never mind that it's mostly criticism of his poor arguments. No, it's "hate".
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 10, 2015 06:34 PM (5F2d0)
Unfunded mandates.
Posted by: Golfman Xenophobe Extrodinaire at September 10, 2015 06:14 PM (48QDY)
Because state legisltures are all of the sudden trustworthy.
What is more likely to happen is that the state Legislatures appoint some senior figure to the Senate, who will then have the Federal Government take on all the revenue generation and regulation, and letting the state Legislators give out all the free s**t while pushing the blame on Washington for any negatives regarding taxation and welfare. If the people get too pissed, the legislature does a *tsk*tsk* and appoints the next senior figure for a six year holiday in Washington.
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 10, 2015 06:34 PM (P11N5)
Posted by: Chico Escuela at September 10, 2015 06:34 PM (VvpaF)
The commie media must really HATE this guy.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 10, 2015 06:37 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 10, 2015 06:37 PM (zJ9UW)
Posted by: Chico Escuela
Wouldn't surprise me a bit. That's exactly what the NORKs did after Clinton's "historic agreement. Then, because everything was somehow changed, the previous agreement didn't matter and they've been playing us ever since. The only difference is the NORKs had to worry about the US troops in South Korea (giggle, snort) while Tehran has to worry about Israel seeing that and saying, "It's time".
Posted by: Daybrother at September 10, 2015 06:40 PM (tzRwt)
The hilarious part is that I think it helps him.
"This guy is hated by all the Right-Thinking people who hate you!"
"Really? Hrm."
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 10, 2015 06:40 PM (0NdlF)
I've got a little list! I've got a little list!
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed! Who never would be missed!
Apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as Whatchacall 'im, Thingembob, and likewise, Nevermind
And St..st...st... and Whatsisname, and also You Know Who
The task of filling up the blanks, I'd rather leave to you
But it doesn't really matter whom you put upon the list
For they'd none of them be missed; they'd none of them be missed!
You may put 'em on the list! You may put 'em on the list!
And they'll none of them be missed; they'll none of them be missed!
Posted by: The part of Ko-Ko will be played by Fa Cube Itches at September 10, 2015 06:45 PM (amQXf)
Israel destroying their capabilities with tactical nukes = retaliatory strike
Posted by: Daybrother at September 10, 2015 06:45 PM (tzRwt)
Clinic think President Obama is the best Presdent of Color ever. All the persons of colora around the world must be proud of her. Brattleboro loves are Presdent of Color and hope they changed that stooped constitution thing to allow hewm to be presdent for another 5 years.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 10, 2015 06:45 PM (lNSdJ)
The sarcasm is noted and warranted. They're all liars and scoundrels. As you undoubtedly know, the Framers knew this and tried (but sadly failed) to arrange the system in such a way to create competing interests and internal tension in so that it would be harder for one faction to run away with things. Having the Senators appointed by the States was a part of that plan. It didn't and doesn't make people better or worse.
For the most part, people are just as bad now as they were then.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 10, 2015 06:46 PM (/Ho8c)
Nip, see you're still here, somebody might have already covered this, but you DO realize that both Aus. and NZ have normal, er, harsh immigration procedures, right? Aus. even advertizes nearby in foreign languages to the effect of "don't even think of trying to sneak in" - and then uses its military and other assets to enforce its borders. And deports those it catches without hesitation (that is, like every country in history, save for the US in the last 30 years).
Just thought you should know you're flirting with moving to a couple 'a fascist countries, that's all. Oh and BTW if you do go, since you can't take your shootin' irons, I'd be happy to keep them for you. As I recall you have a few I'd like ....
JPS: last event I attended like the one you describe was (my gawd) a full decade ago, different topic (Iraq). It was surreal. The two main panelists and most of the audience were so out of touch with reality (i.e. so besotted with the fantasy world of NPR and Beltway idiocy) that the Polish dep. chief of mission, who was there, stood up and delivered a fairly withering and humiliating lecture to the panel and audience. The panelist on the end, who was typically the principled libertarian guy at such things, was so shaken up by the idiocy he was hearing that he "broke character" and basically echoed the Polish diplomat's comments.
It was hilarious. And scary, and frightening. The default mindset of Beltway types actually working in the field was nothing short of delusional.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 10, 2015 06:51 PM (QDnY+)
Once again I will recall Sen. Cotton's almost plaintive comment on radio a few weeks back to the effect that "I can't imagine my Democrat colleagues would deny us a vote on final passage for a matter of this importance".
Look, I still shake my head and pinch myself at the stupefying degradation that has occurred to the US in just a decade, but Tom should know by now that we're not in the country he has spent most of his life in. And the Dem Party, esp. at the national level, is literally unrecognizable (all in a very bad way).
Posted by: rhomboid at September 10, 2015 06:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: skzion at September 10, 2015 07:14 PM (Fsf3w)
This is a problem, a rhetorical problem if nothing else. Even for the guys who are supposedly pretty solid. Maybe he's an asshole maybe he's a decent guy I have no idea. But that kind of comment predictably looks incredibly and weakly naive.
Posted by: Severely Conservative at September 10, 2015 07:25 PM (p6UPL)
Posted by: edmund dantes at September 10, 2015 07:28 PM (4JC5t)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 10, 2015 07:31 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: fluffy at September 10, 2015 07:39 PM (2iV3X)
Good point, but the Norks didn't do it right away. They probably began cheating in short order, but they tested almost twelve years after the Agreed Framework went into place. That's why I hold out the theoretical possibility that the Iranians might actually wait this thing out, use the billions for missile development and unconventional warfare, and resume nuclear work afterward. Are the billions of dollars worth pretending to toe the line just for awhile? I think they'd rather take the money, go nuclear and yell SUCKERS! but I never would have guessed the Norks would take til 2006.
Rhomboid, #437: That's hilarious - thanks for sharing it.
Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2015 08:02 PM (9ziuC)
And did you know that "Obama" in Farsi means "many dead Jews?"
Posted by: Dawg at September 10, 2015 08:11 PM (811e8)
Ah yes, the whole get in the fetal position and kiss your ass goodbye drill. I didn't get that for nuclear bombs, but I got it for tornados. I'm pretty sure that's their solution for every school crisis, huddle under your desk and cower in fear.
It was things like that that taught me at a young age that the world is ran by asshats.
I remember marching around long winding hallways during fire drills and thinking, I'll go along with this now since it's just a drill, but if there's ever an actual fire they can go fuck themselves and I don't care if I get detention. Every room in most every school had an outside wall full of low windows, which is a sensible design. In the event of a fire or other emergency they want us to line up single file like ducks and march slowly and calmly through the burning halls? Fuck that I'm out the window.
School shooter scenario... everyone cower under your desk in the fetal position kissing your ass. Fuck that I'm out the window. I'll take the detention (if the teachers make it out) I'll be down the block at Burger King.
Posted by: Severely Conservative at September 10, 2015 08:29 PM (p6UPL)
Posted by: BamaBubba at September 10, 2015 08:46 PM (vKTRb)
But now that Republicans have been feminized by the DNC/MSM for over 30 years, we have no one.
Posted by: pam at September 10, 2015 09:17 PM (cF0hS)
Fuck.
Sambo, please start that "how to survive" blog. I'll be a faithful reader.
Posted by: Tired Mom at September 10, 2015 09:35 PM (VqWZX)
But now that Republicans have been feminized by the DNC/MSM for over 30 years, we have no one."
America is a failed state. I was around during the Carter era, and even that time and place wasn't anywhere near this disheartening. I'm watching a soft Marxist become the mayor of my beloved city as I type. So there is no escape, even locally. There is no Reagan, there is no opposition to evil, nothing but decay and collapse and lies and ruin. I'll vote for Trump just to burn down those who failed us. He's a Hail Mary and we know how those turn out normally, but just....hell, we are fucked. I don't even have anything to drink in the house. That was some piss poor planning but somehow appropriate.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 10:11 PM (pq97T)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 10, 2015 10:13 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: JoshO at September 10, 2015 10:19 PM (s79uE)
Posted by: Community Organizer at September 10, 2015 11:58 PM (Bjvsz)
Nothing will piss off the Mullahs faster when their glorious ICBMs begin exploding in mid-flight, followed by a Jewish return volley...
Can I get in line for the first McDonald's McRib concession in Tehran?
Posted by: Fred Zeppelin at September 11, 2015 07:12 AM (zL/eJ)
The Left (and their "We allow you a cut of the spoils if you give us what we want" henchmen in the GOPe) want Islam. They want Islam to rule over the entire world.
It's the "Complete Lives System" where Death is the One-Size-Fits-All Punishment for every and all violations of the System.
A caliphate with its oppressive, brutal Shari'ah Law is the fast-track shortcut to a One World Government.
And they figure they'll all be dead by the time it gets imposed on the rest of us. Therefore, they feel like they've done a "Good Deed" by giving us the Ticking Shari'ah Time Bomb. Returning the World to the savages they're too old to be, but only after they're gone.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2015 07:27 AM (FrHC0)
Posted by: Fred Zeppelin at September 11, 2015 10:25 AM (zL/eJ)
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