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Rubio: Hey Maybe The US Should Take In A Bunch Of Syrian Refugees

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I didn't want to make yesterday's Syria post even longer so I split it up into two parts.

The Syrian refugees flooding across Europe are creating a massive problem for countries. Germany has opened its doors to tens of thousands of Syrians which Chancellor Angela Merkel says will "change the makeup of the country forever". You'd think maybe that's something people should have a say in but I guess not.

In the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron won reelection this year on a promise to curtail immigration and increase assimilation but has now decided to take in 20,000 Syrians. I guess even when people think they have a say in this sort of thing, they really don't.

The politics of this crisis is about to hit the US. Most presidential contentders have refused to comment on this. So far, Donald Trump says the we "have to" take in more. As have Lindsey Graham and for fun...Bob Corker. (Added: Scott Walker says he's not going to talk about this)

Carly Finornia is the only one who has said the US has done enough already . If she presses this in the debate next week, I think she'll see another bump in the polls.

The most interesting response so far has been from Marco Rubio. He has two competing story lines at play here. First, much of his campaign is based on how great America is for taking in his family from Cuba which makes opposition to accepting refugees....tricky. But he's also running on the idea we need to expand NSA surveillance because of the threat posed by ISIS.

He's trying to split the baby.

How can we ensure we're only letting in good people when we can't even vet Syrians in Syria to fight in our "moderate resistance" force?

And even if you can weed out current terrorists from the refugees you are still creating a future pool of recruits. That's not theory, it's happening now.

The Twin Cities are home to the largest Somali population in the U.S., an estimated 100,000 people. Refugees began settling in Minnesota after the government of Somalia collapsed in 1991. This isn't the first time the community has struggled to counter the appeal of violent extremism to the state's Somalis, but is much more puzzling. Somalis have no national or ethnic ties to Syria and Iraq, a link that helped explain why some went to fight with al-Shabab when Ethiopia invaded Somalia in 2006. Young men joining that terrorist group felt a nationalistic call to defend their nation against rival state Ethiopia, but many of those drawn to the Islamic State were born in the U.S. and have never been to Somalia, let alone Syria. Still in April, six Twin Cities youth were arrested for attempting to join the Islamic State group. At least one of the men has conspired to travel to Syria since 2014, according to prosecutors.

"As far as we know there is no one profile that brings [together] all these people who are leaving," says Abdisalam Adam, an imam at Dar Al-Hijrah Mosque in Minneapolis. "Some people say, 'Oh they are the ones who are not doing well,' or whatever. That's not true. There are some of them who have the opportunity of working, some are in school."

We can't figure out how or why it's happened before but we should set the table for it to happen again?

And don't forget the Boston Marathon bombers came here as refugees.

Here's an interesting note and a potential compromise. Many, if not most, of the refugees are men of military age.

How about we take in women and children and the men put down their selfie-sticks and join our little "moderate Syrian" army? If they aren't willing to fight for their homeland, their freedom and their families, then we have zero responsibility to care for them.

This is cold and heartless. I admit that. But if we're going to ask US citizens to pay the tab, financially and in terms of diminished liberty, for greater security from terrorists, then it seems a very obvious STEP 1 is...don't admit another large group of potential recruits for our enemy. Either ISIS and the fight against Islamic terrorism is one we are serious about or we're not. Team Hawk can't have it both ways.

Posted by: DrewM. at 11:49 AM




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1 An act of Love.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 09, 2015 09:18 AM (LISuA)

2 Drew, OT, but the blog has tried to download a file to my computer several times this morning. It's called moated.js and my security software blocked it each time, but why is the download attempt happening?

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 09:21 AM (LISuA)

3 What an idiot.


Speaking of idiots, did anyone see Boosh on The Late Show last night?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 09, 2015 09:21 AM (0FSuD)

4 2
Drew, OT, but the blog has tried to download a file to my computer
several times this morning. It's called moated.js and my security
software blocked it each time, but why is the download attempt
happening?

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 09:21 AM (LISuA)


It's probably Pixy's secret ban hammer worm. Step out of line, bam!

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 09, 2015 09:22 AM (0FSuD)

5 "Syrian Refugees"

Which would be a thing if these people were actually "refugees" from "syria"...

but they're neither. But hey, "immigrants" are all good, amirite?

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:22 AM (C9pBZ)

6 Rubio's new eligibility level: -42.


This guy is simply not in tune with the American people, thus not qualified to lead them. That is all.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 09, 2015 09:23 AM (HalrA)

7 NO more fuckin refugees.
These are the same people who have fucked up the Middle East worst than it's normal fucked up state and now that jackasss RINO Rubio wants them here?

No Fuckin Way. Not Now. Not Ever.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:24 AM (gf8BH)

8 "If Germany had a robust economy and a growing demographic. . ."

So I"m guessing they don't.

Importing an army of men who are not German will fix this, apparently. Perhaps Japan and the US should/could also try this same tactic, but it just seems like magical thinking to import an army of unemployed men thinking that would create jobs. So I'm thinking an economy that isn't producing growth and prosperity has a problem and a lack of manpower/population isn't the problem.

But then I'm a nobody who knows nothing.

Posted by: Gustapha Karmakov at September 09, 2015 09:24 AM (DCTZ4)

9
Alternate poat title:

Even A Shitheel Like Peter King Has More Sense Than Marco Rubio

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (R2B0Y)

10 -Infiltrated- means more than what Rubio thinks it does.

Anyone coming in who is totally ignorant of U.S. culture, tradition, history, the Founders, or the Constitution- and who doesn't give two shits about learning- is an *infiltrator*.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (SCcgT)

11 I must have pretty good veins and arteries not have stroked out already from all this shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (gf8BH)

12 Since the Syrian civil war is specifically Barack Obama's fault, why don't we see how many Syrians he is willing to have move into the White House with him?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (78TbK)

13 Listen here asshole, look at any picture of these so called "refugees" the vast majority are military age men.

We do not need and we do not want any more Muslims in this country!

Why on earth do all of these assholes want to commit cultural suicide?

Posted by: Kreplach at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (0tvq+)

14 It's probably Pixy's secret ban hammer worm. Step out of line, bam!


Posted by: Nip Sip at September 09, 2015 09:22 AM (0FSuD)
========================

Maybe it's a refugee file looking for a new and peaceful home. Do I have a moral obligation to load it onto my computer?

The SJW crowd would say "Yes, you do!!" but the more practical-minded among us would stammer out a "hmmmmm, maybe not".

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 09:26 AM (LISuA)

15 Can't we just give them all trillion dollar coins?

Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 09, 2015 09:26 AM (78TbK)

16 "It's called moated.js"

It's courtesy of Amazon - a javascript analytics tool. Harmless, but does seem to conflict with some older android versions....

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:26 AM (C9pBZ)

17 Even A Shitheel Like Peter King Has More Sense Than Marco Rubio
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (R2B0Y)

Low bar

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (gf8BH)

18 Okay, Senator. Give us your home address and we'll send them over right away.

Thanks for volunteering.

I'm sure they will like your sport fishing boat a lot more than the raft they took leaving the war-ravaged country you helped create through indifference and accession to the retarded "Red Line" president.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (KCQo0)

19 Terribly racist of us. Aren't there any Chinese, north Korean, and Russian men of military age we can allow to flood into the country?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (fcK/d)

20 Germany has opened its doors to tens of thousands of Syrians which Chancellor Angela Merkel says will "change the makeup of the country forever".



Meh. Germany has a way of re-changing a country's make-up.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (hgso/)

21 You can't have a welfare state and unlimited immigration -- some smart man

Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (78TbK)

22 We shouldn't be taking in any of them. Lest anyone has forgotten, we stopped taking in boat people from Cuba and Haiti and publicized it because taking them in encouraged more to make the attempt. It's bad enough that we won't stop the flood at the southern border, but now they want us to take in future terrorists? Because make no mistake, some of those brought in will turn on us just as the scorpion turned on the frog.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (JxMoP)

23 Will they even realize that this is suicide when they are marched to the execution square?

Culture matters. Importing metric fucktons of "people" who would enjoy killing you if they could get away with it (and some even if they couldn't get away with it alive) is not a good idea.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (4nmNX)

24 Meh,we are boned,they will let them in.I'm going to stay in the last thread.

Posted by: steevy at September 09, 2015 09:27 AM (sPO3u)

25 Good grief, my hash tag!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (fcK/d)

26 They will all have jobs as baggage handlers soon. No worries.

Posted by: navybrat at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (ETxiG)

27 Oh, fuck this.

FU, Rubio, Graham, Corker and Trump. You take in this Third World trash. You put them up in your homes.

And if you won't do that - which, of course, you won't - then make it crystal clear that the reason we are being flooded with refugees is because of the worthless, feckless, incoherent foreign policy of the dog-eating crackhead in the White House and his shambling, stuttering, lying cankled wench of a SoS!

In the words of the immortal Casey Stengel, doesn't anybody here know how to play this game?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (zF6Iw)

28 NO more fuckin refugees.
These are the same people who have fucked up the Middle East worst than it's normal fucked up state and now that jackasss RINO Rubio wants them here?

-
All they want is a chance at a decent life. That and sharia law. And a certain amount of beheadings.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (ee9LE)

29 That's it. He's toast. Idiot.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (NOIQH)

30 That Baltimore thug got 6 million dollars. He couldn't earn 100 honest dollars his whole life. And BEFORE the criminal trial also? Yeah that will be a fair trial

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (gf8BH)

31 Our refugee benefits have to rival the best of the European social welfare states.

Anybody who wants to let this caliphate happen here will NOT get my vote.

The Donald has a problem here squaring the circle between his stand on Mexican immigrants versus jihadist immigrants. The last "S" in ISIS stands for Syria.

Posted by: Valiant at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (2bqlb)

32


Why isnt theworld shaming Islamic countries for not absorbing these refugees?

once these refugees arrive they will not leave. they will not assimilate. and they will take over. like kudzu

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (zOTsN)

33 And the problem with taking in just the woman and children comes in the form of that our immigration laws are geared toward family reunification and chain migration.

So we might not take the men now but we will take them in later down the line.

How about we just say no to Muslims period?

That's our right as a sovereign nation, we get to decide who we let in.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (0tvq+)

34 25
Good grief, my hash tag!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (fcK/d)

Nice! People would kill to have that on the ONT.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (0FSuD)

35 The last "S" in ISIS stands for Syria
___
But remember the I stands for uh, not Islamic.

Posted by: The State Media at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (78TbK)

36 but it just seems like magical thinking to import an army of unemployed men thinking that would create jobs"

Well, the "magic" is that these newly arrived will handle the nasty, dirty jobs thus freeing the illiterati to perform Cowboy Poetry n' stuff.

The German take is really stupid, as they've done this before - most famously was Benz and other makers in Swabia hiring Turks for the "jobs other Germans won't do", and collapsing on their mediocre quality when Toyota launched Lexus...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (C9pBZ)

37
If theyre refugees..... they go home when things settle down in their home country and help to rebuild. They go back..?? .... right??.... right??.... right??.... right??.... right??

Beuhler????


Cuz if they're NOT going back they are immigrating. Or invading..... pick a word.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (JmjOe)

38 All they want is a chance at a decent life. That and sharia law. And a certain amount of beheadings.


And goat humpings.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (hgso/)

39 Good grief, my hash tag!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (fcK/d)

Better not drive today.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (ee9LE)

40

this will be cultural suicide. this will destroy whatis left of the west in Europe

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (zOTsN)

41 That's our right as a sovereign nation, we get to decide who we let in.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 09, 2015 09:29 AM (0tvq+)

Sigh. It once was. When America was like the Roman Legions......

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:31 AM (gf8BH)

42 Oh, great - from 2 dyas ago:

"More than 200,000 Syrian refugees living in Jordan learned via text message that the U.N. food aid they rely on to survive is getting completely cut."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 09:31 AM (NOIQH)

43 Good grief, my hash tag!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 09, 2015 09:28 AM (fcK/d)


#WAST

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:31 AM (LUgeY)

44 this will be cultural suicide. this will destroy whatis left of the west in Europe
Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:30 AM (zOTsN)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:32 AM (gf8BH)

45 How about we take in only Christians. You know, like all those Yazidis being martyred, tortured, sold into slavery. Our "elected" representatives refuse them entry, but boy are they hot to import a whole lot more clit chopping, mysoginist, pedophile goat fukcers.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 09, 2015 09:32 AM (0kNIP)

46
Rubio's answer shifted toward a more inclusive approach to the situation, pointedly saying that under a Rubio administration, "We would be potentially open to the relocation of some of these individuals at some point in time to the United States."



Three qualifiers in one sentence. Nice.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 09, 2015 09:32 AM (kdS6q)

47 And why do people think Michigan has such a large Muslim community?

We were importing Mulism refugees by the 10s of thousands in the 90s and aughts due to the conflicts in Somalia, Ethiopia, et al.

We do not need more Muslims, period.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 09, 2015 09:32 AM (0tvq+)

48 Hey Dondi, how about "No."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (LUgeY)

49 Will they even realize that this is suicide when they are marched to the execution square?"

Not going to happen - they'll just die off as National Health won't lift a finger...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (C9pBZ)

50 Trust us. This time it will be different.

Posted by: Your Betters at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (W5DcG)

51 Muslim refugees, because Mexican narco-terrorists just aren't good enough.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (ee9LE)

52 They are not refugees, they are invaders. Plain and simple. Just like at our borders. Invaders.

Posted by: Eromero at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (go5uR)

53 Also you can't " insure" you aren't letting terrorists in.Any muslim can become a terrorist,their children could,or their grand children.

Posted by: steevy at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (sPO3u)

54 >>All they want is a chance at a decent life. That and sharia law. And a certain amount of beheadings.

And you to pay for it all.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (NOIQH)

55 The Catholic guy and the Black guy about to have a fist fight on FOX

Good stuff

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (gf8BH)

56 the czech republic has said they will only take Christians. Some are converting en masse thinking it will enhance their ability to immigrate.


they are just doing it to get entry. they will go back to who they really are. honor killings. sharia. any jews left in europe, get out now! scandanavians and germans with their low birth rates? get ready. this is how the west dies

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:34 AM (zOTsN)

57 >>>>"More than 200,000 Syrian refugees living in Jordan learned via text message that the U.N. food aid they rely on to survive is getting completely cut."

So their own neighbors don't even want them. Observant nations would take a clue from that.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 09, 2015 09:34 AM (JxMoP)

58 So this is the new "bi-partisan" meme that these asshole are going to explain to us is "what the American people want."

Lindsey Graham said the same thing yesterday. He said we have a responsibility to the Syrian refugees. Bullshit. If anyone has any responsibility it is Obama - personally - and perhaps some in Congress - personally, but that responsibility does not extent to the public.

Rubio looked at first to be an attractive Republican candidate - attractive, young, glib, ethnic - but he turned out to be the consummate professional politician. He knows who butters his bread and he obviously gives not one shit whether voters knows who he is acting for, or not.

Jackass. I hate it when people like him are able to pull shit like this off. I knew a guy in the military like him - the guy I hoped would wind up fragged. I would have not lost one moment of sleep had I learned that he had been.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 09, 2015 09:34 AM (BZAd3)

59 I think I'd rather let in Syrian refugees than Mexicans trying to make a buck.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (0eidE)

60 once these refugees arrive they will not leave. they will not assimilate. and they will take over.

like kudzu


Goats. Or fire.
Only way to get rid of kudzu. Just saying.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (hgso/)

61
How about those so inclined send care packages to them abroad? I dont want anymore terroirsts And these so called migrants have acted like assholes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (iQIUe)

62 Country's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (evdj2)

63 I heard that the Norwegian women's volleyball team is being oppressed.

Then there's the oppression of the Alliance of the 19-Year-Old Redheaded Irish Barmaids.

And let's not forget about the Icelandic Society of Hot-tub Bunnies. How much more can they endure under the tyrannical heel of Iceland?

We have a duty to bring these refugees to our country and free them from the bonds of oppression.

Let's import some refugees that we want for a change.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (KCQo0)

64 Rube-io is Exhibito Numero Uno when it comes to corrupt politicians who lie to get into office.

He fooled me completely. This is not the same guy who was on the campaign trail extolling the virtues of America without a teleprompter.

Palomino!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (LUgeY)

65 Somewhere, somehow somebody
Must have kicked you around some
Tell me why you want to live here
And revel in your abandon.
Listen it don't make no difference to me baby
Everybody's had to fight to be free
You see you don't have to live like a refugee
Now baby you don't have to live like a refugee

Dont have to live like a refugee.

Posted by: Tom Petty and the Headtakers at September 09, 2015 09:36 AM (JmjOe)

66 Country's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (evdj2)

Nice. Well played

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:36 AM (gf8BH)

67 I suggest we adopt the Noah rule, this is our damn ark and you get the hell off.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:36 AM (ee9LE)

68 How many Minn Somalis went Jihadi? How many Min Somalis sent money to terrorists? They need to stop this shit now!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 09, 2015 09:36 AM (iQIUe)

69 they are just doing it to get entry. they will go back to who they really are. honor killings. sharia.

I don't think that's the kind of thing they can fake.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 09, 2015 09:38 AM (OqR5R)

70 they are just doing it to get entry"

No, really?
You know, for "refugees" the folks in those videos look awfully well fed and dressed...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:38 AM (C9pBZ)

71 Tiny Iceland will be taking a disproportionate amount of the refugees if the progs there have any say about it. They have started a movement


it would be easy to take over iceland comepletely in 15 years. small progressive populace with low birth rate

there will be no Iceland if this keeps up

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:38 AM (zOTsN)

72
ISIS: We're infiltrating hundreds of our glorious fighters into Europe and the Great Satan among the refugees. Soon, we will bring chaos into the belly of the beast! Victory will be ours!

Rubio: Don't listen to him. He's just kidding. It's just political rhetoric meant for the domestic audience.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2015 09:38 AM (1QsMy)

73 70:"You know, for "refugees" the folks in those videos look awfully well fed and dressed..."

Kind of like all of those people who live in "poverty" that the govt says I have to pay for.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (4nmNX)

74 once these refugees arrive they will not leave. they will not assimilate. and they will take over.

like kudzu


Goats. Or fire.
Only way to get rid of kudzu. Just saying.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (hgso/)

I think it'll end up being a tragedy or a great success for Europe. It'll be determined on how well they can be assimilated and converted.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (0eidE)

75 You're damn right we should take as many as want to come. And then elect me as president and support my plan for even more electronic surveillance of you.

It's for your own good.

Posted by: Chris Christie at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (HstNY)

76 Sure, Marco, let's place them all in Miami.
Yeah, that's right, you can't dump them in some flyover red state small town and then pat yourself on the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (NOIQH)

77 "You know, for "refugees" the folks in those videos look awfully well fed and dressed..."


----

..... and shout Allahu Ackbar.... and Death to America..... and throw their own feces.....

What could *possibly* go wrong.??

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2015 09:40 AM (JmjOe)

78 71: "Tiny Iceland will be taking a disproportionate amount of the refugees if the progs there have any say about it....there will be no Iceland if this keeps up"

So you're saying I should sell my Eve Online accounts?

Bummer.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:40 AM (4nmNX)

79 "More than 200,000 Syrian refugees living in Jordan learned via text
message that the U.N. food aid they rely on to survive is getting
completely cut.">>>

So how exactly do these staving refugees who need o have their food delivered. Afford cell phones?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 09, 2015 09:40 AM (tf9Ne)

80 I think it'll end up being a tragedy or a great success for Europe.

It'll be determined on how well they can be assimilated and converted.


Europe or the muzzies?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:40 AM (hgso/)

81 assimilated or converted?

why would they suddenly know how to accomplish that now?

hasn't worked in France or Sweden or the UK

suddenly they know how to motivate these folks to assimilate

you must be joking

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (zOTsN)

82 Short answer: No.

Long answer: Hell no.

Eff off Rubio. We do not need more of this crap. Europe is writing its own death sentence by allowing this invasion.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (KkVB6)

83 Cruz has also come out against relocating Syrian refugees to the US: https://www.tedcruz.org/news/cruz-we-need-to-address-the-cause-of-the-migrant-crisis/

He thinks the goal should be to get them back to Syria.

Posted by: Snorkdoodle Whizbang at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (LhwXx)

84 :"You know, for "refugees" the folks in those videos look awfully well fed and dressed..."

Kind of like all of those people who live in "poverty" that the govt says I have to pay for.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (4nmNX)

And they all have smart phones

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (gf8BH)

85
Palomino!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:35 AM (LUgeY)

I'm right there with you. What a dick. I hope his descent into oblivion hurts, at least a little.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (BZAd3)

86 >> It'll be determined on how well they can be assimilated and converted.

Based on their track record so far? they won't be assimilated or converted; they will takeover more towns and declare more Sharia Zones.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (NOIQH)

87 The Boston Marathon bombers were from a refugee family.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (JxMoP)

88 You know, for "refugees" the folks in those videos look awfully well fed and dressed..."

Kind of like all of those people who live in "poverty" that the govt says I have to pay for.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:39 AM (4nmNX)

On the radio, I heard that the Italians had to stop serving halal pasta and brought in a michelin star chef to cook their traditional food. That's not a good sign.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (0eidE)

89 It's not just that Rubio wants to import jihadists into American cities, it's also the economy.

In August, native born workers employed in the U.S. workforce declined by nearly 700,000 people, with all of the difference between that number and total reported employment growth being accounted for in jobs given to foreign born workers. Again, I'm no Trump nativist, but this kind of trend has to be out in the open and discussed during the election.

http://bit.ly/1UBhDov

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 09:41 AM (LISuA)

90 Why are we considering importing Syrians? Have we learned nothing in 400 years about importing people and the lack of assimilation?

Posted by: centralscrutinizer at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (vI+F1)

91 Sure, Marco, let's place them all in Miami.
Yeah, that's right, you can't dump them in some flyover red state small town and then pat yourself on the back.


Better yet: relocate them all to the greater District of Columbia area.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (LUgeY)

92 Somalis have no national or ethnic ties to Syria and Iraq, a link that helped explain why some went to fight with al-Shabab when Ethiopia invaded Somalia in 2006. ...

hmmm, nothing that could explain why they would go fight for ISIS. Our left is so comfortable in their atheism that they cannot, will not accept that others may feel differently.

Posted by: Jean at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (ztOda)

93 Never was a big Rubio fan, but he has just dug his hole several feet deeper with this stupidity.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (go6ud)

94 Europe or the muzzies?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:40 AM (hgso/)

For Europe. Muslims always suck until they stop being a muslim, kind of in the definition.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (0eidE)

95 I have a modest proposal: We will all refugees that are Christian, and Saudi Arabia can take all the Muslims.

Deal?

Honestly, I'm kinda thinking we could radically improve our quality of immigrant if we simply required they be Christian or Jewish. Instead, we seem to favor the Mohammedans and block the Christians and Jews.

Posted by: Mordineus at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (tcFcs)

96 and lets talk about "converted"

europe is nearly totally secular. there is no way they will EVER encourage religious conversion. EVER

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (zOTsN)

97 79: "So how exactly do these staving refugees who need o have their food delivered. Afford cell phones?"

What? You thought Mary Clogenstein and crew were the only ones to get Obama phones?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (4nmNX)

98 Why are we considering importing Syrians? Have we learned nothing in 400 years about importing people and the lack of assimilation?
Posted by: centralscrutinizer at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (vI+F1)

I think our Italian, Irish, and German immigrants have been great. I love eggplant parmesan.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (0eidE)

99 "And why do people think Michigan has such a large Muslim community? "

Because it does. It goes back to Henry Ford.

Posted by: navybrat at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (ETxiG)

100 On the radio, I heard that the Italians had to stop serving halal pasta and brought in a michelin star chef to cook



Tire soup?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (hgso/)

101 House them on your luxury yacht, asshole.

Posted by: Chupacabras at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (l2max)

102 Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:26 AM (C9pBZ)
===========================

Thanks!

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (LISuA)

103
Dint learn a damn thing did ya.

All my effort is now for naught.

Posted by: Zombie Charles "The Hammer" Martel at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (JmjOe)

104 Funny how we NOW have a flood of refugees after four years of war in Syria.

Logic tells us that refugees usually flood from a country at the beginning of a conflict.

These are people who have lived with either Assad's forces or ISIS because Assad or ISIS have allowed them to live.

Anybody else see something wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (KCQo0)

105 I think it'll end up being a tragedy or a great success for Europe."

Well, if by "success" you mean the adhan being chanted from the Cathedral of Notre Dame, then, well, yeah.

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (C9pBZ)

106

they are lying about being Christians to get in

only taking the "christian" refugees would accomplish nothing

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:44 AM (zOTsN)

107 I have a modest proposal: We will all refugees that are Christian, and Saudi Arabia can take all the Muslims.

Deal?

Honestly, I'm kinda thinking we could radically improve our quality of immigrant if we simply required they be Christian or Jewish. Instead, we seem to favor the Mohammedans and block the Christians and Jews.
Posted by: Mordineus at September 09, 2015 09:42 AM (tcFcs)

Actually, that's a great idea and it's sort of happening in Germany right now. Lots of refugees are converting, some are saying in order to be accepted and not kicked out.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:44 AM (0eidE)

108 Off this topic, but hey, it adds to the shitstorm. The social security disability "trust fund" is going to run out by the end of 2016, looks like. On paper, they keep the retirement and survivors part (OASI) separate from the disability insurance part (DI). The DI part went cash and interest negative around 2009 and has been rapidly depleting the trust fund.

By the existing law, when the trust fund zeros, it will have to cut benefit payments to match tax revenue coming in. That will be a pretty good little cut.

So they'll have to do something come 2017. They may do nothing other than merge DI with OASI on paper, which will have the effect of pulling the OASI detonation point forward.

You've heard zero talk about this little DI detonation in the mainstream media. It will be fun to see what happens.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 09, 2015 09:44 AM (dvuhZ)

109 Well, there goes Rubio...

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 09:45 AM (ry4ab)

110 It's not so much being exterminated I mind; it's that we never fired a shot. I guess Ghandi don't work with Muzzies.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:45 AM (ee9LE)

111
Tire soup?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (hgso/)

Rubber de mar con tagliatelle

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:45 AM (0eidE)

112 Let them move to Detroit so they can hang with their homies in Dearbornistan...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 09:45 AM (9tnUZ)

113 they are lying about being Christians to get in

only taking the "christian" refugees would accomplish nothing

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:44 AM (zOTsN)

A bacon test could be introduced

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (0eidE)

114 Weakening Assad and Quadaffi and Egypt was one of the worst things Fredo ever did. He empowered ALL the radicals in the Middle East and lead DIRECTLY to what is happening now.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (gf8BH)

115 This is cold and heartless

Two qualities this country needs to re-learn and implement. Quickly.

Posted by: sparky at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (AYiiR)

116 Drew, here is Ted Cruz's statement from yesterday (remove spaces)
https://www.tedcruz.org/news/ cruz-we-need-to-address-the- cause-of-the-migrant-crisis/

He states:

In terms of settling the migrants, if the ultimate goal is to return them to their homes, which I believe it should be, it doesn't make sense from a logistical or a security standpoint to move large numbers of them to far-off countries like the United States.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (dDUXP)

117 Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:26 AM (C9pBZ)
===========================

Thanks!"

Khahesh mikonam.

(just practicing)

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (C9pBZ)

118 God that took me forever to copy paste because of the stupid commenting software.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 09, 2015 09:47 AM (dDUXP)

119 108: " It will be fun to see what happens."

You mean that guy who wears diapers all day and identifies as an infant will have to get up and get a job?

Now that's just crazy talk right there.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:47 AM (4nmNX)

120 Weakening Assad and Quadaffi and Egypt was one of the worst things Fredo ever did. He empowered ALL the radicals in the Middle East and lead DIRECTLY to what is happening now.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:46 AM (gf8BH)

Under that reasoning, we should probably only accept the refugees if they benefit America. Good point. I still like causing civil war in the middle east in the short term, but a long term solution needs to be implemented soon.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:47 AM (0eidE)

121 On the radio, I heard that the Italians had to stop serving halal pasta and brought in a michelin star chef to cook

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They ought to contract with Purina to get Muslim Chow.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:47 AM (ee9LE)

122 NO. FUCKING. WAY.

Posted by: daninmichigan at September 09, 2015 09:48 AM (2yD4G)

123 Draki are you trolling. I cant tell. They are lying to get into Germany and you think that is a great idea. You welcome their arrival because of your love for international food. And you think that for the first time in its modern history Europe has learned to assimilate and convert large number of Islamic immigrants.

trolling or just unreasonably optimistic

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:48 AM (zOTsN)

124
So.... if the Leader of the Free World secretly wanted to usher in an Islamic Caliphate upon Western Civilization....
what would you do that is different from what President Jugears has done for the last 8 years.???

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2015 09:48 AM (JmjOe)

125 So, I'll admit that my ignorance may be showing, but why are there so many refugees? If the countries who feel obligated to take in these refugees would join forces and put an end to the reason these people are refugees, I think we'd have a lot more happier people...including the refugees.

What am I missing here?

Posted by: adsila at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (AR612)

126 45
How about we take in only Christians. You know, like all those Yazidis
being martyred, tortured, sold into slavery. Our "elected"
representatives refuse them entry, but boy are they hot to import a
whole lot more clit chopping, mysoginist, pedophile goat fukcers.
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Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Any one else still mystified by the Muzzie-hugging?

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (ry4ab)

127 A bacon test could be introduced>>>

Every immigrant gets a puppy. If the puppy/dog is abused or dies deport to home.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (tf9Ne)

128 Better yet: relocate them all to the greater District of Columbia area.

^^^^^

How about we quarter them in the Capitol building and the
White House? Stuff all those cushy offices to capacity. See how our Lords and Ladies on the Potomac like the idea of taking in all these "refugees" after they have to deal with them.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (KkVB6)

129 In terms of settling the migrants, if the ultimate goal is to return them to their homes, which I believe it should be, it doesn't make sense from a logistical or a security standpoint to move large numbers of them to far-off countries like the United States.

Wow, some common sense for once. Which is why the MFM will bury it. Or twist it into "RACIST!!!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (LUgeY)

130 we should probably only accept the refugees if they benefit America.

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American law benefiting Americans?! That's crazy talk!

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (ee9LE)

131 121: "They ought to contract with Purina to get Muslim Chow."

Or better yet, issue them a hoe and some seeds. Have at it you ungrateful trash.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 09, 2015 09:49 AM (4nmNX)

132 Gimme a yob , meng.

Posted by: Jose Al Muhammad at September 09, 2015 09:50 AM (AYiiR)

133 46

Three qualifiers in one sentence. Nice.
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Three strikes and you're out, Rubio.
Again, this is another example of why Trump is polling high.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 09:50 AM (ry4ab)

134 Well on the literary front, just ordered a proof copy of Golden Isis in dead tree version.

Now back to writing the sequel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 09:51 AM (9tnUZ)

135 but why are there so many refugees?"

There aren't.

Read "The Camp of The Saints", especially the young Frenchman's speech for some illuminating background...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:51 AM (C9pBZ)

136 Those videos of the military age males throwing their food and water away and demanding better? They're assimilating.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 09, 2015 09:51 AM (HstNY)

137 Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem."

Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing them into America.

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

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Anything above 1000 women and children and your dead to me Trump, DEAD!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (LXJ1e)

138

I honestly cant think of a better way to spread jihad throughout Europe than this

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (zOTsN)

139 How are all these people getting to Europe? Thru Turkey I assume..... Turkey? I smell a big turkish rat here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (gf8BH)

140 Time to bring back the Monroe Doctrine?

Screw the Eastern Hemisphere, we have enough problems here.

Besides, we can't take in this wave of refugees, we're going to have enough trouble with the refugees from the nuclear war that'll be coming in the Middle East any time now.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (Xd2w5)

141
I think our Italian, Irish, and German immigrants have been great. I love eggplant parmesan.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (0eidE)







What is the common characteristic of these three immigrant communities in the US? Any guesses?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (1QsMy)

142 See how our Lords and Ladies on the Potomac like the idea of taking in all these "refugees" after they have to deal with them."

They won't. It's rather telling that there are now a number of gated communities across Northern Virginia.
It's as if fences actually mean something...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (C9pBZ)

143 The Boston Marathon bombers were from a refugee family.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater


From peaceful Chenyna as well. So was the shooter at the mall in SLC - peaceful Bosnia.

Posted by: Jean at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (ztOda)

144 Just goes to show, it ain't all the donor class.

Nobody in the donor class wants Syrian refugees.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (Xd2w5)

145 I honestly cant think of a better way to spread jihad throughout Europe than this
Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (zOTsN)

Give me time and maybe I can top that?

Posted by: Fredo & MSM at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (gf8BH)

146 96
and lets talk about "converted"



europe is nearly totally secular. there is no way they will EVER encourage religious conversion. EVER
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There's the hand writing on the wall for post-modern Europe.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (ry4ab)

147 Carly Finornia?

Posted by: Captain Typo at September 09, 2015 09:53 AM (hKyl0)

148 We should take in refugees... and put them up in Gitmo.

A camp should be setup off the mainland.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 09:54 AM (LXJ1e)

149 This is cold and heartless. I admit that.

No, it's not. What do we owe these people? If individuals or private organizations want to help them, fine, possibly laudable even (I'm still not buying that this "crisis" is real. real refugees don't tote selfie sticks), but what duty does the government of the United States have? It has a duty to the citizens of the US, not to Syrians.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 09, 2015 09:54 AM (WvS3w)

150 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:54 AM (gf8BH)

151 Easy to separate them ... all males between 14 and 40, tie them up throw them in water for half an hour ... if they float, they're terrorists ... shoot them.

Posted by: Illiniwek at September 09, 2015 09:54 AM (6zZ5y)

152 In the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron won reelection this year on a promise to curtail immigration and increase assimilation but has now decided to take in 20,000 Syrians.

Would he accept the nomination of a down-on-its-luck political party? He sounds like just what we're looking for.

Posted by: The GOPe at September 09, 2015 09:55 AM (hsCpX)

153 Don't forget about the spud-pickin' Syrians in Idaho. Spuds are an integral part of the Syrian culture, donchaknow.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2015 09:55 AM (UzPAd)

154 An act of Love.
Posted by: Marco Rubio
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Love your enemy. But you also have a duty to love your neighbor, and to love your family (see the Pastorals), that trumps any "duty" towards your enemies.

And you can love your enemy without letting him in your home where he would shit on your rug, steal your silverware and endanger your family.

Let's stop falling for the left's non sequiturs and false dichotomies.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 09:55 AM (E5UB0)

155 Nervergiveup.

Some are crossing from Turkey to the Greek island of Lesbos. There are they are piling up so then ferry boats bring them to Athens to alleviate the stench. And then they go north to Germany.

Or they go through the poorly maintained fence Greece shares in one spot with Turkey. And go north.

Sud Afrika is a bit different. For example the Libyans fleeing the EU/US created failed hell hole get into boats and try to sail to Italy. Many founder and drown.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 09:55 AM (9tnUZ)

156 134
Well on the literary front, just ordered a proof copy of Golden Isis in dead tree version.

Now back to writing the sequel.
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Keep at it Anna, we will need something for light reading in the trenches in a couple of year.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 09:55 AM (ry4ab)

157 Now we get to learn first hand, what the payoff to this constant drumbeat of "Islam is a religion of peace," is.

They (whoever 'they" are) are going to force this bullshit totalitarian theocratic bullshit ideology down our throats, and I think I know why (but you'll need your tinfoil hat).

Centuries ago, basically at the birth of the expansion of Christianity, autocrats, oligarchs, monarchs (what have you) saw the power of political religion. (I'm not saying that Christianity is a political religion. I'm saying that it was used as a political tool and there is no denying that.) Whole swathes of the world were conquered under the banner of religion. When Islam first ignited in the ME, the same thing happened. Caliphs saw the power of co-opting religion. Islam was probably actually easier to use because at its heart, it is political.

You see where I'm going with this. I don't think that there is any denying that those who feel that people should be ruled, want a universal government, notwithstanding the colossal failures of the EU and the UN. Islam is a near perfect vehicle and the fact that Islam is apocalyptic, now is the perfect time.

Yeah, I know. Pretty crazy stuff.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 09, 2015 09:56 AM (BZAd3)

158 I guess that I now have an idea of what it was like to be a Roman citizen under the mad Emperors.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 09, 2015 09:56 AM (evdj2)

159
The UK had all these libyan army officers for training. They had to kick them out bc they were raping so many people in this village near the army base, including men.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 09, 2015 09:57 AM (iQIUe)

160 Grump, just wait until the Circus Maximus comes for you...

Thanks exdem13.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 09:57 AM (9tnUZ)

161 I'm not a writer for the Federalist or National Review, so it goes without saying I'm not very smart, but here's an idea on how to handle a humanitarian refugee crisis in Syria.

Have the U.S. military pick an area on the coast of Syria that has a port and rail access to Turkey. Send in one or two reinforced battalions with a carrier group parked offshore and seize enough land and infrastructure to handle all the refugees.

Make it a safe zone, with a five mile wide no-go belt around it, where anything that moves is destroyed. One road in for refugees.

With the port and rail, it would be easy to service all the refugees there are. Let the EU countries pay all the expenses. Grow the safe zone as needed.

Posted by: jwest at September 09, 2015 09:57 AM (Zs4uk)

162 How are all these people getting to Europe? Thru Turkey I assume..... Turkey? I smell a big turkish rat here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:52 AM (gf8BH)


Mediterranean Backstroke?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2015 09:58 AM (JO9+V)

163 Once again, I have to say it: we are subjects, not citizens.

Posted by: Chupacabras at September 09, 2015 09:58 AM (l2max)

164 Think El Jeb!! has the good sense to keep his act of love yap shut on this one?
I doubt it.

Posted by: bystanders at September 09, 2015 09:59 AM (hKyl0)

165 "How about we take in women and children and the men put down their selfie-sticks and join our little "moderate Syrian" army? If they aren't willing to
fight for their homeland, their freedom and their families, then we have
zero responsibility to care for them."

This. If the US were in the danger Syria is, would you flee to Canada? Europe? I think most of us here would stay and fight.

Posted by: Dang at September 09, 2015 09:59 AM (2oWD2)

166 And you can love your enemy without letting him in your home where he would shit on your rug, steal your silverware and endanger your family. "

It's laughable here now - the newish neighborhood we've moved to is getting pretty riled up about the illegals doing the construction work... but it's not the fact of the "work", rather, it's that they treat the neighborhood just like they did their "homeland" - tossing trash and garbage everywhere and leaving sites dirtier and fouler than when they arrived.

Funny, that...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 09:59 AM (C9pBZ)

167 Saudi Arabia Bans National Geographics August Edition Over Cover With Pope Francis

Weasel Zippers

And I thought it was because of the bare tits? At least that is why I always stole National Geographics as a kid?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:59 AM (gf8BH)

168 We will mow your grass with our scimitars of hate, gringo infidels!

Posted by: Jose Al Muhammad at September 09, 2015 10:00 AM (AYiiR)

169 Can I get some Syrians up here to fill in the potholes in my street? Infrastructure, people, roads and bridges.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2015 10:00 AM (UzPAd)

170 I hate to say it, but Obama bears primary responsibility for the problem for half heartily supporting the Syrian rebels, or getting involved at all. It really is all his fault, and he is the President, so America will get to pay the price for his folly.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 10:00 AM (LXJ1e)

171 jwest, team up with the Russians and you've get a winner.

Posted by: Jean at September 09, 2015 10:01 AM (ztOda)

172 If the US were in the danger Syria is, would you flee to Canada? Europe? I think most of us here would stay and fight."

Ah, that "American Exceptionalism" again.

Thanks to our betters, we'll not have to worry about that in a few generations.

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:01 AM (C9pBZ)

173 Think of all the new Uber drivers!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2015 10:01 AM (JO9+V)

174 You can't trust a Mohammedan who claims to convert, because of their doctrine of taqiyua (sp?). They are allowed to lie about anything and everything, including their religious affiliation.

Christians are not, which doesn't preclude them from actually lying, but doctrinally, they are not supposed to.

Mohammedans can and do. You just cannot trust them, period.

Posted by: East Bay KG at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (uDCdI)

175 Said it before, will say it again ...

... keep leaving these borders open, and the domestic bombings won't stick to military bases and large urban centers.

They'll start hitting schools, and restaurants, and malls.

The police response will be to guard the mosques. The political response will be to disarm the public. The military response will be to do as they're told.

And anyone who speaks to the contrary will be labeled a terrorist.

Posted by: Irony at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (3FBAK)

176 europe is nearly totally secular. there is no way they will EVER encourage religious conversion. EVER

Actually, you'd be surprised, especially considering how much obscure Christian holidays feature in German academic calendars. Churches are subsidized (usually this subsidy extends to other religions as well).

But here's what happens: Muslims come in, they go to a church, go through a course and get converted. Then they say "I'm Christian now, so you can't send me back, I'll be persecuted."

I don't know what happens to the kids, though. Presumably, they can't go to a Muslim school and the girls won't wear headgear. It wouldn't be easy for them to be secret Muslims and this is a long-term plan.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (Xd2w5)

177 Isn't there some sort of semi-empty space somewhere in the ME where decent refugee camps could be set up and maintained for a while for these people until their countries become livable again?

Posted by: Emily at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (7Rn+/)

178 171 jwest, team up with the Russians and you've get a winner.

Posted by: Jean at September 09, 2015 10:01 AM (ztOda)


Absolutely. Ask Putin to send in a few battalions in a joint operation.

Posted by: jwest at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (Zs4uk)

179 Mohammedans can and do. You just cannot trust them, period."

Respectfully, I disagree. In my experience, good Mohammedans can be trusted to do exactly what Mohammed said...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:03 AM (C9pBZ)

180 Bolton spoke on this, I'm thinkin' on Greta. He said there is international rule/law on this ... they go to the closest places where, they can be returned from later. He had some other details.

Of course Russia is helping Assad spread the Arab Spring jihad across Europe, and Obama is doing what he can to help "globalize" the evil west.

Posted by: Illiniwek at September 09, 2015 10:03 AM (6zZ5y)

181 I have no interest in honoring a check President Gutsy-Call wrote.

We don't have a republic anymore, so it's time to stop pretending we do when it suits our political betters.

Posted by: Chupacabras at September 09, 2015 10:03 AM (l2max)

182
This. If the US were in the danger Syria is, would you flee to Canada? Europe? I think most of us here would stay and fight.


I think we see the mindset that the Middle East has always been a shit hole and always will be.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 09, 2015 10:04 AM (hsCpX)

183 The police response will be to guard the mosques. The political response will be to disarm the public. The military response will be to do as they're told. "

So France, then.

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:04 AM (C9pBZ)

184 Behold, you are with child
And shall bear a son;
You shall call him Ismael,
for the LORD has paid heed to your suffering.
He shall be a wild ass of a man;
His hand against everyone,
And everyone's hand against him;
He shall dwell alongside all his kinsmen.

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:04 AM (zOTsN)

185 I got a case of the feels and when you get the feels there's no thinking allowed.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 09, 2015 10:04 AM (HstNY)

186 All of the multitudes of "Muslim" countries not encouraging Muslims to emigrate to their countries leaves a foul odor wafting in the breeze.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 09, 2015 10:04 AM (BZAd3)

187 NOOooooOOooooOOOOD!!

Posted by: Jose Al Muhammad at September 09, 2015 10:05 AM (AYiiR)

188 This. If the US were in the danger Syria is, would you flee to Canada? Europe? I think most of us here would stay and fight.
Posted by: Dang



We are going to have to. Soon.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 10:05 AM (hgso/)

189 161 I'm not a writer for the Federalist or National Review, so it goes without saying I'm not very smart, but here's an idea on how to handle a humanitarian refugee crisis in Syria.

Have the U.S. military pick an area on the coast of Syria that has a port and rail access to Turkey. Send in one or two reinforced battalions with a carrier group parked offshore and seize enough land and infrastructure to handle all the refugees.

Make it a safe zone, with a five mile wide no-go belt around it, where anything that moves is destroyed. One road in for refugees.

With the port and rail, it would be easy to service all the refugees there are. Let the EU countries pay all the expenses. Grow the safe zone as needed.

Posted by: jwest at September 09, 2015 09:57 AM (Zs4uk)

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Probably the best that could be done, but it eventually turn into a Mogadishu situation.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 10:06 AM (LXJ1e)

190 Look! It's a bunch of refugees from LV-426. The poor dears. We should take some in.

Posted by: Said No One Ever at September 09, 2015 10:06 AM (JO9+V)

191 At some point things are going to become so fucked up here that the immigration problem will solve itself.

Posted by: Weasel at September 09, 2015 10:07 AM (6xtq3)

192 Isn't there some sort of semi-empty space somewhere in the ME where decent refugee camps could be set up and maintained for a while for these people until their countries become livable again?

Why yes, yes there is. But you can't destroy Western civilization that way.

Priorities...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 09, 2015 10:07 AM (LUgeY)

193 Amishdude I lived in Germany for a while. It is a Catholic country and al lthe Catholic holidays are federal holidays. You arent supposed to wash your car on Sundays or do other work. And they are about as secular as possible

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

194 An act of love.

http://tinyurl.com/nopp87y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 09, 2015 10:07 AM (W5DcG)

195 Thanks to our betters, we'll not have to worry about that in a few generations.
Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:01 AM (C9pBZ)

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Have you seen your average millenial??? Pajama boy standing up to a jihadi sleeper cell???

It's NOT a few generation away.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2015 10:07 AM (JmjOe)

196 I think the white-guilt liberal pathology is something like: "I might have subconscious racist feelings..." and they feel so anxious and guilty about that possibility, that they think by overcompensating they can do penance.

So even if they are dimly aware that these aren't fleeing refugees, but ungrateful, opportunistic thugs, they will try by an act of will to convince themselves otherwise. Thus they do penance and think they will find absolution.

But the problem is, even if you do have base motivations in part (and which of us doesn't?), that doesn't mean that you should allow parties of ill will to guilt you into taking an incorrect action.

For example, if a policeman knocks someone to the ground who is trying to mug an old lady, and the mugger says, "I'll bet you just like bullying and pushing people around!". The proper response is not, "You might be right... ok, continue mugging this woman, I shall not interfere". It's "you might be right, I might need to work on that. But the possibility that I have a bad motivation doesn't mean that I should do the wrong thing. I'm still going to do the right thing. Haul your ass off to jail".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:08 AM (E5UB0)

197 Amishdude I lived in Germany for a while. It is a Catholic country and al lthe Catholic holidays are federal holidays. You arent supposed to wash your car on Sundays or do other work. And they are about as secular as possible

I understand, but there are these vestiges of Christianity that they refuse to get rid of.

I guess it reminds them of civilization.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (Xd2w5)

198 >>I honestly cant think of a better way to spread jihad throughout Europe than this

They should give it a name....."Hijra"?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (NOIQH)

199

Regarding Rubio, has any semi-serious reporter ever tried to pin him down and get an answer about his Corker vote?

He supports the man (Barky) who wants to give a nuke to the regime (Iran) that are whipping up the frenzy in the whack jobs (ISIS) who chasing out the refugees (military age Syrians) that we (taxpayers) should now welcome and pay for (with money we have to borrow from China), knowing that they won't fight for their own country, but surely will assimilate and play nice in what's left of our republic(?).

I don't know what happened to Rubio, but I certainly wouldn't vote for the guy.

And I see an opportunity for a lot of militant lesbians to vent their anger at the oppressors in the Middle East.

Hey, a guy has to have hope.

Posted by: GBruno at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (u49WF)

200 jwest you need some history

the border Syria shares with Turkey is a kurdish area, and is currently stuffed with ISIS

your plan will not work

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (zOTsN)

201 We are going to have to. Soon."

Indeed. The lights are going out all across Europe.

Again.

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (C9pBZ)

202 177 Isn't there some sort of semi-empty space somewhere in the ME where decent refugee camps could be set up and maintained for a while for these people until their countries become livable again?
Posted by: Emily at September 09, 2015 10:02 AM (7Rn+/)

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No.

The ultimate responsibility on this is Turkey as they are Syria's neighbor and are responsible for the refugees. They are not to pass them on to others.

Same thing with Mexico and the "refugees" from Central America.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (LXJ1e)

203 It seems that elected officials no longer understand that their job is to advance the interests of their nation and its citizens. They need to have the pre-amble of the Constitution tattooed on their foreheads to remind them of this. With a jackhammer.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 09, 2015 10:10 AM (nFdGS)

204 If things are so bad then these people need to fight to change it. Muslims have used up all their sympathy from non-muslim countries. NO to any refugees from Syria, period.

Posted by: LB at September 09, 2015 10:11 AM (zE1uQ)

205 It seems that elected officials no longer understand that their job is to advance the interests of their nation and its citizens."

Well, doing so would be racist. Or something.

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:11 AM (C9pBZ)

206
Sounds like Rubio has taken a pretty good public position. Of course we probably can't ensure no terrorists are among the refugees. The statement allows Rubio to sound nice and concerned, but leaves him an enormous way out of actually fulfilling the promise.
It's pretty close to my position as well. I'd love to take in refugees. The problem is: (1) terrorists among them, and (2) our enormous welfare state.

Posted by: FJ Min at September 09, 2015 10:11 AM (BHcX6)

207 You'd like a stable middle eastern region with pro-western democracies.
You'd take a middle east that you can just leave alone without fear of being attacked.
You'll get ISIS and a million refugees.

Posted by: joe at September 09, 2015 10:11 AM (34w2E)

208 Just spitballin' here, but it seems to me these "refugees" outnumber ISIS by at least ten to one. If they're fleeing ISIS because ISIS is hostile to them, wouldn't it make just a little bit of sense to organize them, arm them, and tell them to take back their own damn little sandbox?

Is it because we're secretly smart enough to not trust them with weapons, or is it that there's more to their motives than just fleeing ISIS?

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 09, 2015 10:12 AM (hjQw4)

209 seems that elected officials no longer understand that their job is to advance the interests of their nation and its citizens.
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Why so nativist bro?

Posted by: GOPe at September 09, 2015 10:13 AM (HstNY)

210 >>>>"More than 200,000 Syrian refugees living in Jordan learned via text
message that the U.N. food aid they rely on to survive is getting
completely cut."
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.They are supposedly fleeing for their very lives and they managed to bring a cell phone and found a place to charge it? Amazing!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 09, 2015 10:13 AM (iONHu)

211 Draki are you trolling. I cant tell. They are
lying to get into Germany and you think that is a great idea. You
welcome their arrival because of your love for international food. And
you think that for the first time in its modern history Europe has
learned to assimilate and convert large number of Islamic immigrants.



trolling or just unreasonably optimistic

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 09:48 AM (zOTsN)

I'm probably unreasonably optimistic. They'll have to do a better job of assimilating than before if this is going to be successful. I also agree with you that the majority of the converts are lying, but they're also probably lying about being muslims too. Lots of muslims aren't true to their faith.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 10:13 AM (iTWMM)

212 This. If the US were in the danger Syria is, would you flee to Canada? Europe? I think most of us here would stay and fight.
Posted by: Dang
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I've considered joining the Amish. Perhaps Australia, since they have a stricter immigration policy.

I had hoped the UK would remain a possibility, but Cameron seems to have caved. What's left? Russia? Israel? One of my parents is Jewish, so I'd qualify.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:13 AM (E5UB0)

213 The simplest conclusion is that the people in charge want the crisis for their own purposes.

I hate to go all conspiracy theory, but when some jackass jihadis in Toyotas send the rest of the world into paroxysms and bureaucrats dither rather than just blowing the rabble into a fine bloody mist, I've got to assume that Western leaders are either unbelievably incompetent or favoring a hidden outcome they prefer.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 09, 2015 10:14 AM (hsCpX)

214 200 jwest you need some history

the border Syria shares with Turkey is a kurdish area, and is currently stuffed with ISIS

your plan will not work

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:09 AM (zOTsN)


I watched a few divisions cut through a million man army in Iraq with less casualties than would be expected on a training exercise of the same size, so I'm pretty confident that a few battalions and a carrier group could seize enough land mass to make a fine refugee area.

The fact that it's a Kurdish area is all the better.



Posted by: jwest at September 09, 2015 10:14 AM (Zs4uk)

215 They are not to pass them on to others."

Which, of course, puts the lie on the term "refugee"...

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:15 AM (C9pBZ)

216 I don't know about the rest of you, but this is my home, and my guns aren't toys...

Posted by: East Bay KG at September 09, 2015 10:15 AM (uDCdI)

217 I think our Italian, Irish, and German immigrants have been great. I love eggplant parmesan.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 09:43 AM (0eidE)

What is the common characteristic of these three immigrant communities in the US? Any guesses?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Their ancestors participated in the Crusades against the religion of peace?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:15 AM (E5UB0)

218 I would make them eat bacon just to get across the border, lots of bacon. That might convert them.

Posted by: Jean at September 09, 2015 10:16 AM (ztOda)

219 "hidden outcome"

Uh, which part of this is "hidden"?

Posted by: anon a mouse at September 09, 2015 10:16 AM (C9pBZ)

220
What is the common characteristic of these three immigrant communities in the US? Any guesses?


Drunks?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 09, 2015 10:16 AM (hsCpX)

221
>>>> 208 Is it because we're secretly smart enough to not trust them with weapons, or is it that there's more to their motives than just fleeing ISIS?
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 09, 2015 10:12 AM

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Apparently they left their women and children behind to fight it out.

Posted by: GBruno at September 09, 2015 10:17 AM (u49WF)

222
ABC - Scott Walker won't take a position on the U.S. accepting refugees because it's "a hypothetical"



"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch me soar!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 09, 2015 10:17 AM (kdS6q)

223 53 Also you can't " insure" you aren't letting terrorists in.Any muslim can become a terrorist,their children could,or their grand children.

Posted by: steevy at September 09, 2015 09:33 AM (sPO3u)

But unlike those meddling Tea Party Terrorist folks that want us to balance the budget and be responsible these terrorists will let us expand government monitoring and control of the population. think of all the good crisis that'll be created!

Posted by: AdamPM at September 09, 2015 10:17 AM (xqhl+)

224 I also agree with you that the majority of the converts are lying, but they're also probably lying about being muslims too. Lots of muslims aren't true to their faith.


Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 10:13 AM (iTWMM)

The 9/11 guys liked their booze and strip clubs but still managed to stay true to the core of their faith.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 09, 2015 10:18 AM (nFdGS)

225 There are different theories on how to approach refugee problems. The sanest one in my opinion was not to create refugee camps. Once you do that they never want to leave as they become dependent on the welfare. You shd as soon as there is a break in the fighting, send them home with some supplies for food and materials to rebuild their homes. With camps, you also get people using them or political purposes. The Pali camps have been there for almost 70 years and they are not going away since they can use them for political reasons .

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 09, 2015 10:18 AM (iQIUe)

226 The 9/11 guys liked their booze and strip clubs but still managed to stay true to the core of their faith.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 09, 2015 10:18 AM (nFdGS)

Ooo good point

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 10:19 AM (iTWMM)

227 If we are going to take in these 'refugees', make a condition of their coming in that we give them a dog from one of our many shelters. Tell them if anything untoward happens to the dog given to them, then they get their asses kicked right the fuck out of here.

Time for some Western jihad.

Posted by: RickZ at September 09, 2015 10:21 AM (HEtQ3)

228 jwest you miss my meaning

Turkey would never allow it, because Kurds

we would be fighting Assad and ISIS and Turkey at the same time

Our "friends" Turkey and Iran and Iraq and Saudi Arabia should absorb these people

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:21 AM (zOTsN)

229 Wow, someone in Hollywood understands what a real "rape culture" looks like:

"The most aggressive terrorist group in the world today knows what we know, knows that [rape] is a very effective weapon and they are using it as a centrepoint of their terror and their way of destroying communities and families, and attacking and dehumanising.

This terrorist group we are dealing with in Syria and Iraq is absolutely using rape. They are dictating it as policy. This is beyond something we have seen before...they are saying, 'You should do this, this is the way to build a society, we ask you to rape.'

- Angelena Joli

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 10:23 AM (NOIQH)

230 also jwest you must remember that you watched a few divisions tear through an alleged million man army only with the help of Turkey

that will not be the case in your plan

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:23 AM (zOTsN)

231
It's my understanding that Saudi Arabia is not taking ANY refugees. None. That say a lot.

Posted by: GBruno at September 09, 2015 10:24 AM (u49WF)

232

ISIS and boko haram know that if they rape and impregnate the women of their enemy, they absorb them. rapidly

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

233 rape and impregnation are the ultimate in forced assimilation

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:25 AM (zOTsN)

234 >>>There are different theories on how to approach refugee problems.

Offer them a gas refill and send the boats back.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:27 AM (E5UB0)

235 I keep hearing people talk about getting on board the Rubio express. Frankly, I have no desire to get on a train in which the driver is intentionally derailing.

Posted by: physics geek at September 09, 2015 10:29 AM (MT22W)

236 Okay, FUNimation just posted to FB 103 pictures they took at DragonCon and AnimeFest. The Super Saiyun Sailor Venus mash-up was wicked cool. So was the little white poodle in a white Gii with guitar strapped to back. The rest, uh well maybe that Full Metal Alchemist guy is nifty, are truly sub-par.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 10:31 AM (9tnUZ)

237 Well here is the Saiyan Venus cosplay

http://preview.tinyurl.com/q3zsbbg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 09, 2015 10:35 AM (9tnUZ)

238 Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 10:23 AM (NOIQH)

That's good to see. Many people are ignorant of their rape culture and what happened to Kayla Mueller.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 10:38 AM (iTWMM)

239 We should follow Poland and Hungary's example and only allow in Christians.
Of course that won't happen as Barry wants to destroy us and Europe as payback for "colonialism".

Posted by: Iblis at September 09, 2015 10:39 AM (tAYH3)

240 230 also jwest you must remember that you watched a few divisions tear through an alleged million man army only with the help of Turkey

that will not be the case in your plan

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:23 AM (zOTsN)


We didn't have any help from Turkey in the Iraq war. They refused to allow the 3rd Infantry Division to land and deploy from the north. That division was, at the time, the most advanced division we had.

For the refugee area, we don't really need Turkey's permission.

Also, we should go in with a permanent town, not a temporary refugee camp.

Posted by: jwest at September 09, 2015 10:40 AM (Zs4uk)

241
What is the common characteristic of these three immigrant communities in the US? Any guesses?

Drunks?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 09, 2015 10:16 AM (hsCpX)









Christian, of course. But also, sausage.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2015 10:41 AM (1QsMy)

242 You know, as I have been checking out the coverage of all the Muslim "refugees" swarming Europe, I thought to myself that it was a shame that we couldn't get in on that action. You can't imagine how relieved I am to find that our GOP leaders are working on a way to integrate our current swarm. I mean, all the Mexicans and South Americans are great, but this will really help to balance things out.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 09, 2015 10:42 AM (IN7k+)

243 Our "friends" Turkey and Iran and Iraq and Saudi Arabia should absorb these people

Posted by: ThunderB at September 09, 2015 10:21 AM (zOTsN)

That would probably be the most beneficial strategy and why they aren't letting them in.

Posted by: Draki at September 09, 2015 10:42 AM (iTWMM)

244 I don't want to let any Syrians in.

It's bad enough western Europe will turn into a Muslim caliphate in my lifetime, we don't need to join the club.

...and I have increasingly noticed within the past year or so that I can't go anywhere in THIS country without seeing a bunch of Muslims everywhere.

We are watching the death of western civilization.



Posted by: DRayRaven at September 09, 2015 10:44 AM (9YRwm)

245 We are watching the death of western civilization.

Posted by: DRayRaven
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The suicide of western civiliaztion.

Liberal elites and GOPers are like that large foreheaded girl, and we are her depressed boyfriend who has been talked into suicide.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:47 AM (E5UB0)

246 Michelle Carter

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 10:50 AM (E5UB0)

247 There is no moral obligation to admit Syrians into the U.S.

there is a moral obligation on Syrians to go back to their country and fight to make it a better place.

These Syrians are like the leftists who flee high-tax/high-regulation states. they come to a low tax / low regulation state and then vote for all the same policies that created the conditions they fled from in their previous state.

The Syrians (and almost every other immigrant group) do the same thing. They aren't fleeing Syria because it is too islamist or they don't agree with ISIS. they are leaving for physical safety and because they know they will get welfare in western states.

We need to shut our borders down and only allow in highly educated people with western style values. If we need laborers, we can have a guest worker program that allows in laborers from Mexico, but that's it. Stop all other immigration.

I'm sick of this idea that we owe the world something. The Syrian people allowed their gov't to exist, they allowed their religion to preach and create ISIS and other groups, they allowed Assad and his father to rule and terrorize, and now they want us to take care of them?

When are people responsible for their own lives and their own nation?

As an example - Mexico was colonized at about the same time as the U.S. Mexico has as much, if not more, natural resources than the U.S. Mexico was founded by Europeans just like the U.S. Thus, Mexico could easily be as successful as the U.S. But instead, Mexico is a backward, poor country because of decisions its citizens have made over time - voting for communism/socialism, accepting corruption as the natural state of affairs, allowing narco-syndicates to get away - literally - with murdering children. They created the country and climate they live in. they are responsible for it. Even today, after all the damage its done, Mexican citizens will continue to vote for the same leftist policies they always have.

We have no moral duty to save them from themselves. Same with Syrians or anywhere else in the world.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 09, 2015 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)

248 We have no moral duty to save them from themselves. Same with Syrians or anywhere else in the world.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 09, 2015 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)


Maybe if they didn't have an escape hatch, they'd take on the challenge of fixing their countries. But that's hard, and running to weak, wealthy European countries is easy.

Posted by: Iblis at September 09, 2015 10:56 AM (tAYH3)

249 There is on my way home from work a small convenience store, with a deli up stairs. I started stopping there about a year ago. The owners are a Christian couple who immigrated from Syria years ago, and are some of the nicest kindest people I've ever met. About 6 months ago the man's nephew started working for him, he's here from Syria on a student visa, glad to have escaped the chaos there. They are all very worried for the rest of their family that is still in the area. If I knew nothing else about them, speaking with their employees would tell me all I needed to know. One woman in particular has a lot of medical issues, and they hired her, and made some accommodations for her so she could continue to earn a living.

Unfortunately our PC society would probably mandate a choice between open door mass importation and closed door none at all. I'd support taking refugees provided we could discriminate and refuse some. Unfortunately our vetting process for refugees and asylum seekers leaves a lot to be desired.

Last night I watched a video where refugees in Europe were offered food and water at a train station, which they promptly threw on the train tracks. Some little girls reached out of the train window and were handed some food packets, and then some man pulled them out of the window an shut it. What a litmus test that would be, if you slap the hand that is trying to help you, I'd turn you around in a heart beat. As it was despite the refugees general misconception that they weren't being allowed to cross the border they were all let through.

Posted by: thecoat at September 09, 2015 10:56 AM (wk3m0)

250 So are we going to send these migrants straight to Dearborn or will we spread them out in vital strategic areas?

Posted by: Drider at September 09, 2015 10:56 AM (DNFK1)

251 It's unclear what Trump says we "have to" do. Does anyone have the full video?

Posted by: gm at September 09, 2015 11:01 AM (K0tm3)

252 Two words. Neutron Bomb.

Posted by: Fletch at September 09, 2015 11:02 AM (O0T76)

253 But, as usual, I like Drew's plan.

Posted by: gm at September 09, 2015 11:04 AM (K0tm3)

254 Common Denominator = Islam

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2015 11:12 AM (gQmg/)

255 Why don't these immigrants go to Muslim countries?

Why is Erdogan suddenly cracking down on freedoms just now in Turkey?

Why are these migrants protesting in English, and squirming under fences for the view of waiting news reporters?

This is jihad.

These are the strategies we have seen before, like the fake news stories of the Palestinians.

Doom.

Posted by: PJ at September 09, 2015 11:13 AM (cHuNI)

256 Two things. One, these migrants should be made to agree that it was they're God that forced them here. It was our God that let them stay.

Second thing is there is a Stayfree ad at the top of the page and it's in spanish. I could not help but see the irony in that.

Posted by: Drider at September 09, 2015 11:25 AM (DNFK1)

257 Once the refuges have been dispersed around the world, along with the whatever x-percentage of demonic islamofacists and born-to-become islamofacists come with them, the argument against domestic surveillance will be counterbalanced by the need to manage the threat.

The arguments against it will be weak in the face of the threat, or so we will be told. And the argument in favor will have merit.

It's a crisis in the making, and we all know the motto "never let a crisis go to waste" means that it is a crisis that will spawn some benefit to some special interest.

Domestic surveillance is coming, and this is going to be a defining moment for the argument in favor of it.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 09, 2015 11:29 AM (zpZLP)

258 It's not fair that Middle Eastern refugees can't get across the Atlantic very easily. Something should be done.

Posted by: Buddha at September 09, 2015 11:31 AM (3CczE)

259 Looks like the JV team caused one helluva mess.

Posted by: qzy at September 09, 2015 11:32 AM (41r9v)

260 jwest,

4th ID.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 09, 2015 11:43 AM (zyIlW)

261 He's only trying to split the baby if his 2nd goal is to diminish the threat from ISIS by reluctantly imposing greater surveillance by the NSA. If his 2nd goal is actually greater surveillance by the NSA, it's advanced by increasing the threat from ISIS by letting Syrians flood into the country.

Posted by: bgates at September 09, 2015 11:47 AM (HKdcW)

262 They are under siege and should treat it thusly.

Though they won't, and the chickens won't wait long to roost.

Posted by: Chupacabras at September 09, 2015 11:50 AM (l2max)

263 Once again, Carly Fiorina shows herself to be the strongest, sanest one in the bunch. Thank you, Carly, for standing up for AMERICANS!

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 09, 2015 11:50 AM (AcTdG)

264 >>>He's trying to split the baby.
Posted by: DrewM. at 11:49 AM

That's a poor metaphor. It is drawn from a story about King Solomon, who ordered that a baby be cut in two in order to appease two women, each claiming to be his mother, one of whom was lying. In the story, Solomon wisely issues an order designed to determine which of the women is lying. It is a story about being crafty, using slight of hand to get at the truth. Solomon was never going to divide a baby in two parts.

A better metaphor or analogy for Rubio might be that he is talking out both sides of his mouth, or that he is trying to have his cake and eat it.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 11:53 AM (9UV3C)

265 I would have said that Rubio lost my vote with this...but he never had it to begin with.

So I'm feeling pretty good about my decision to never support Rubio.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 09, 2015 11:53 AM (PFy0L)

266 And seriously, I don't remember the Europeans volunteering to take in the Central American refugees flooding our borders, so screw them.

Posted by: Chupacabras at September 09, 2015 11:55 AM (l2max)

267 >>He's trying to split the baby.


He's once again screwing the Forgotten Man.

Cheap grace, buddy, since you no doubt want these refugees placed far, far away from DC.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 11:56 AM (NOIQH)

268 I am sick of the "cold and heartless" meme. Self-interest and self-protection are not cold and heartless. These people do not need to be here. They will be a(nother) net drain on the country and future Democrat voters.

There are an awful lot of users in this world and they mistake kindness for weakness. It's time to stop being both kind and weak if any of us hope to preserve even a shred of this nation's culture, values, etc.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 09, 2015 11:57 AM (vg8iE)

269 We are watching the death of western civilization.

Western civilization has been suicidal for two thousand years. Something always saves it, but I'm wondering when its luck will finally run out.

It's hard to see what gets it out of this one. Artificial Intelligence maybe? Warp drive?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 09, 2015 11:57 AM (OqR5R)

270 Well, this is why we have to have Trump to shame the GOPe against this nonsense.

Wait, what's that? He said the same thing?

http://goo.gl/5E4qeB

Posted by: Paul at September 09, 2015 11:57 AM (QM5IH)

271 If you will not defend it you do not deserve it.

Germany will be kaput in 40 years or so once the muzzies take root and grow like a weed.

Coming to a community near you in oh, I'd say about 60 years.

First they come as refugees and before you know it the muzzies will be throwing Jews and fags off of roof tops. Hell they even sodomized me after I was dead. Sheesh.....

Thanks Obama voters!

Posted by: Zombie Muammar Qaddafi at September 09, 2015 11:58 AM (D0NZx)

272 These refugees, hunh?

What a sausage fest amirite?

Posted by: Bigby's Snake handling Hands at September 09, 2015 12:00 PM (YkUew)

273 264
>>>He's trying to split the baby.

Posted by: DrewM. at 11:49 AM



A better metaphor or analogy for Rubio might be that he is talking
out both sides of his mouth, or that he is trying to have his cake and
eat it.
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White Hispanice Man speak with forked tongue.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 12:00 PM (ry4ab)

274 Let in the women and children? When your house is infested with rats do you only try to get rid of the males? Take in no one. We need to deport not import. It isn't charity if you sacrifice your children's future or the nation's survival. It's treason.

Posted by: Achilles at September 09, 2015 12:00 PM (85/zS)

275 It's not fair that Middle Eastern refugees can't get across the Atlantic very easily. Something should be done.
Posted by: Buddha

We had coffin ships. because they were built snug like coffins.....sure they were.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at September 09, 2015 12:01 PM (Spluw)

276 >>First they come as refugees and before you know it the muzzies will be throwing Jews and fags off of roof tops.


Don't forget the part where your stupid, progressive local minister offers to broadcast the call for prayer from his/her church's bell tower and within 15 years the church is either bulldozed or just renovated into a mosque.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 12:01 PM (NOIQH)

277 Just what we need Marko, another shitload of damn Moose dicks. You are a fukkin' genius.

Posted by: maddogg at September 09, 2015 12:02 PM (xWW96)

278 11
I must have pretty good veins and arteries not have stroked out already from all this shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2015 09:25 AM (gf8BH)

Or the alcohol is helping.

Posted by: Webb Hubbell-icious at September 09, 2015 12:03 PM (fMQoG)

279 First they come as refugees and before you know it the muzzies will be throwing Jews and fags off of roof tops.

There's a Harvey Fierstein joke in there somewhere...

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2015 12:03 PM (2Ojst)

280 ===Ugh, been getting willowed all the doodah day===



A big part of the problem demographically is that the

crazy stew of "no enemies on the left" and the profound anti-reality and incompatibiltiy of every single leftard idea-

has led to nonsense like this:

http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/22/fecundophobia-

growing-fear-children-fertile-women/

(remove extra spaces)


If you really want a modern Western-style welfare state-

then you can't have Modern Western-style anti-life Feminism.

The two are profoundly incompatible.

You need lots of successful two parent marriages producing a bare minimum of 2, but

in reality between 3-5 kids.

If you aren't doing that, then you can't have a modern western etc etc etc.


And importing a ton of young jobless unmarried men will not correct that-

you need to import a bunch of unmarried fertile females 16-30

if that many American females are really buying into the the whole anti-life feminist yada yada-

that Our Betters or the Euros actually think we need to start wholesale importing of third world migrants.

YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2015 12:04 PM (0cMkb)

281 Trump: we need to let in all these military-age, middle eastern men from a terrorist-ravaged country, but screw those Mexicans looking for a better economic opportunities and willing to work at menial jobs to get it. Because people who want to blow shit up are always better for America that people who want to build things. Unless it's me building casinos and strip clubs. Because nothing says building America like gambling and prostitution.

Trump fans: Oh, you're so dreamy with your principled conservative consistency.


Yes, I'm trolling you. Because you deserve to be trolled, Trump fans.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 09, 2015 12:04 PM (ljZD2)

282 Just what we need Marko, another shitload of damn Moose dicks. You are a fukkin' genius.

Never place your faith in a man whose name includes "mark" and "rube". Every con that comes along will eat him up.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 09, 2015 12:04 PM (9krrF)

283 268
There are an awful lot of users in this world
and they mistake kindness for weakness. It's time to stop being both
kind and weak if any of us hope to preserve even a shred of this
nation's culture, values, etc.
---------------
Sadly you are right. Being kind to foreigners worked back when foreign immigrants became U.S. citizens and were proud and happy to do so. Or when the foreigners stayed in foreign parts and didn't come here to take advantage of Bread and Circuses. It's not the same anymore.... So yeah, for the sake of the Republic we need to elect some assholes who will throw a sheet over the Statue of Liberty, build the walls, bar the gates, and clean out the immigrants who do not intend to become full citizens.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 12:04 PM (ry4ab)

284 The time stamps on all these comments changed.

I think this thread has gone through the Ace-o-matic time machine!!

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 12:05 PM (LISuA)

285 the muzzies will be throwing Jews and fags off of roof tops.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2015 12:03 PM (2Ojst)

Yeah, but would they bake them a cake though?

Posted by: Arson Wells at September 09, 2015 12:05 PM (UnJ7w)

286 Yeah, but would they bake them a cake though?
Posted by: Arson Wells at September 09, 2015 12:05 PM (UnJ7w)

At gunpoint.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2015 12:05 PM (2Ojst)

287 "If they aren't willing to fight for their homeland, their freedom and their families, then we have zero responsibility to care for them."

Sorry the lefty elites in charge of the U.S. will never stand for this. Cold and heartless is only allowed in the pursuit of progressive goals.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 09, 2015 12:06 PM (laMCB)

288 Trump: we need to let in all these military-age, middle eastern men from a terrorist-ravaged country, but screw those Mexicans looking for a better economic opportunities and willing to work at menial jobs to get it. Because people who want to blow shit up are always better for America that people who want to build things. Unless it's me building casinos and strip clubs. Because nothing says building America like gambling and prostitution.

-
Trump says something must be done but doesn't specify what. It could be anything from everybody has to adopt a Muslim to final solution II: The Unmusliming.

Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at September 09, 2015 12:06 PM (XUKZU)

289 >>>He's trying to split the baby.

NTTAWWT

Posted by: Deborah Nucatola at September 09, 2015 12:06 PM (E5UB0)

290 281
Trump fans: Oh, you're so dreamy with your principled conservative consistency.

Yes, I'm trolling you. Because you deserve to be trolled, Trump fans.
---------
Oh look, the Wormtongue for GOPe and Biden2016 makes his appearance. We know you want the Full Merkel, now shut up and go away.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 09, 2015 12:07 PM (ry4ab)

291 So yeah, for the sake of the Republic we need to elect some assholes who will throw a sheet over the Statue of Liberty, build the walls, bar the gates, and clean out the immigrants who do not intend to become full citizens.



Replace the Statue of Liberty with Bullwinkle.
"The Country Is Closed".

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 12:08 PM (hgso/)

292 Our proud motherland welcomes all immigrants who wish to improve their hygienic habits, beginning with this complimentary shower.

Posted by: heinrich himmler at September 09, 2015 12:09 PM (FgSae)

293 How about shipping them to Mexico, Guatemala, and those places?

I mean with all the people leaving those places to come up here, won't there be plenty of space down there?

Drop 'em off at the Panama Canal. That way, they can head north OR south, whatever their preference.

BTW, if they can get to and over our border, maybe they're hardy enough to be here..... or terrorists with an agenda.

Posted by: Mr Wolf at September 09, 2015 12:09 PM (cjgnX)

294 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at September 09, 2015 12:09 PM (GwIKd)

295 Sorry the lefty elites in charge of the U.S. will never stand for this. Cold and heartless is only allowed in the pursuit of progressive goals.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 09, 2015 12:06 PM (laMCB)
========================

I can't wait to watch the lefty elites try to stuff that particular Pandora's boxtop shut.

Once the jihadist invasion is completed, oops! I mean "refugees resettlement", the lefty surrender begins.

Posted by: MTF at September 09, 2015 12:09 PM (LISuA)

296 Yes, I'm trolling you. Because you deserve to be trolled, Trump fans.


After this I'm ignoring you because you deserve to be ignored, troller.

P.S. I'm neither a Trump fan or a Trump loather. I think I see him pretty realistically.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2015 12:09 PM (OSs/l)

297 Yes, I'm trolling you. Because you deserve to be trolled, Trump fans.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 09, 2015 12:04 PM (ljZD2)

Perhaps, if anyone supporting Trump was doing so because of his conservative credentials.

They aren't. At least, no one here is.

People supporting Trump are doing so because they are glad to finally see someone bending the Establishment over and giving them back some of what they've been giving to the grass roots for the last 20 or more years. I don't think anyone expects Trump to be a conservative, but if you are going to have liberal policies anyway - and you are - lets bring down the folks who have been steamrolling us in the process.

In short, if you are a conservative and you are supporting some establishmentarian like Rubio or Jeb, then it is you who are being trolled by the establishment.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:11 PM (9UV3C)

298 Latest Trump poll: 37% in the South Carolina Republican primary. Looking more and more like a lock to be our next president. RealClearPolitics.com

Posted by: Kevin C at September 09, 2015 12:11 PM (OT5Lm)

299 I can't believe how tone deaf Rubio is on this issue. He really doesn't get it.

Western Europe is going to destroy itself with its white guilt, and the US is only going to be a few years behind it.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:12 PM (jrJFb)

300 Last night on o'reilly Trump seemed to be expressing an opinion against taking in mid-east refugees, but honestly, I had no idea what he was saying. He sounded like he was throwing word-chaff.

Posted by: Roscoe at September 09, 2015 12:13 PM (lHpdV)

301 "We know..."

Two falsehoods in two words. I'm impressed by your efficiency. There is no "we," unless you have a mouse in your pocket. And as to knowing anything, well....that has yet to be proven.


No, I don't think it is America's responsibility to take in everybody, especially people who until yesterday were chanting "Death to America." I also don't think our current non-enforcement of our immigration laws regarding the southern border is optimal. But, I actually want real solutions, not empty nativist rhetoric.

You know, solving adult problems like adults and not like emoting teenagers, which is all Trump offers.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 09, 2015 12:13 PM (ljZD2)

302 re Carly,

She has very good political instincts and communicates them clearly. This issue is a loser for anyone encouraging another immigration wave.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2015 12:13 PM (GMG6W)

303 So Marco is okay with mass migration as long as we make sure there are no terrorists?

So the same government that issued visas to Mohammed Atta and his fellow murderers six months after 9/11 will be able to carry out that duty?

Is he crazy? Or does he think we are stupid.

That's it for Rubio for me.

Posted by: PJ at September 09, 2015 12:14 PM (cHuNI)

304 No. Just no.

Posted by: Garrett at September 09, 2015 12:15 PM (5/dF2)

305 He sounded like he was throwing word-chaff.>>>

Did Oreily have missile lock?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 09, 2015 12:15 PM (tf9Ne)

306 can't believe how tone deaf Rubio is on this issue. He really doesn't get it.

He's probably being advised by Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: pep at September 09, 2015 12:16 PM (GMG6W)

307 So, Rubio wants to start a "refugee immigration race"

The Democrats will take the Hispanics

The Republicans will take the Syrians.

Posted by: President Azzhole Obama at September 09, 2015 12:16 PM (e8kgV)

308 I'm just amazed at what idiots these politicians have around them that they think it's smart politics to tell voters they are open to taking in these Syrian refugees.


Kudos to Fiorina for saying what 99% of Americans are thinking, I guess in this day and age that's considered political courage.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (jrJFb)

309 Maybe Rubio could put them up in his house?

Or Trump can put them up in one of his buildings?

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (COpZ4)

310 >>>Replace the Statue of Liberty with Bullwinkle.<<<

That's good. Then they'll think we're Canada, and leave us alone.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (UzPAd)

311 Nearly 1 in 4 of the Americans who picked a health plan this year through the Affordable Care Act's insurance marketplaces have dropped or lost their coverage, according to new federal data.

A report, released Tuesday by federal health officials, shows that 9.9 million people were paying, as of the end of June, for health plans they had gotten through the federal and state-run insurance exchanges created under the health-care law.

Those people reflect a decline from the roughly 12.7 million consumers who signed up for a 2015 health plan. The vast majority signed up during an open enrollment period that ended in February and the rest through special enrollment circumstances since then.


... they'll love it once they get to read it.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (e8kgV)

312 Perhaps, if anyone supporting Trump was doing so because of his conservative credentials.



They aren't. At least, no one here is.


strumpetdiddler and Nip Sip are preparing us for Trump's Inevitable Fourth Reich and Mexican 'Final Solution'.

Posted by: sparky at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (AYiiR)

313 This is cold and heartless.

Like reality.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (yMVjf)

314 I may be weird but - if we believe in a God given right to freedom, doesn't that mean He would have given that to all people?
Implication: we should encourage immigrants to seek freedom - both in their home country and HERE.
Secondary implications:
The fence should be high to keep out those who do not respect freedom.
The gate should be wide to welcome those who embrace freedom.
The gatekeeper scrutiny should be thorough to reject those who have denied others freedoms - criminals, Moslem fanatics, etc.
Then freedom to connect, assimilate or STARVE to death should be granted.

Tertiary: such a policy would put a lot of pressure on un-free countries of the world as it says "We won't take your dregs and we won't take your princes but we will take your middle class if you don't give them freedom".

Fire at will.

Posted by: Igotnothing at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (pJaW6)

315 I'm beginning to feel ignored.

Posted by: Black Lives Matter at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (KCQo0)

316 An invasion is still an invasion even when you give it another name.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (jILzT)

317 Whoever says that I'm not feminine can suck my dick!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 12:19 PM (ETxiG)

318 Ah, fecundity and fertility. Remember the end of one of my favorites, Dr. Strangelove. What with economic collapse and WWIII almost certain to happen now, we need to start preparing to repopulate the earth. If we survive and we are the survivors, not the progtards.

As we learned from Dr. Strangelove himself, we need to set the female to male ratio at at least 10:1. At least, maybe 20:1. Then, we set about the tough job of some serious procreatin'. And all the womens we pick need to be hot and nubile, you know, to keep us up to the task. It's all to save humanity, you understand.

Every night, we're gonna have to fuck, fuck, fuck. We're gonna have to build our prostates and seminal vesicles and whatever else the hell (we'll have our Top Men working on) with supplements or pills, so we can minimize our refractory periods and shoot load after load of that baby making goo. Every damn night.

I know the task seems daunting, but I'm sure the Horde hear will rise to the task. And I mean rise.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 09, 2015 12:20 PM (dvuhZ)

319 So, I guess this means that "ObamaCare" is still a pejorative.

Posted by: Tea Party at September 09, 2015 12:20 PM (e8kgV)

320 This is cold and heartless.

Like reality.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC



Like me.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2015 12:21 PM (hgso/)

321 >>An invasion is still an invasion even when you give it another name.


Try "Hijrah"

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260019/hijrah-europe-robert-spencer

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 12:21 PM (NOIQH)

322 Adult solution?

OK. We take them in, on condition they immediately sign up for the draft, then we send em back. The only tactics we teach them will be the Human Wave, weaponry will be doled out similar to WW2 soviet battalions, complete with political officers

Posted by: Bigby's Snake handling Hands at September 09, 2015 12:21 PM (YkUew)

323 I'm beginning to feel ignored.

Posted by: Black Lives Matter at September 09, 2015 12:18 PM (KCQo0)


Ignored? You should be in gored.

Posted by: RickZ at September 09, 2015 12:22 PM (HEtQ3)

324 "This is cold and heartless."
_________________________

No more than being forced to jump to your death from the 90th Floor of the World Trade Center so you don't burn to a crisp.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 09, 2015 12:22 PM (KCQo0)

325 The Republicans will take the Syrians.


Posted by: President Azzhole Obama at September 09, 2015 12:16 PM
----

Natural Republicans!


/Your Neighborhood Severely Conservative Pundits

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 09, 2015 12:22 PM (7d8Ef)

326 World Elites: We must accept an unlimited number of "refugees"

The people as Harlan Olgilvy: You and me. I don't think we're on the same page!

World Elites: *beats Harlan Olgilvy to death with a shovel.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 09, 2015 12:22 PM (0tvq+)

327 Screw 'em.


I've grown up under 40 years of so of leftist rule. Human life is cheap.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 09, 2015 12:23 PM (AC0lD)

328 298 Latest Trump poll: 37% in the South Carolina Republican primary. Looking more and more like a lock to be our next president. RealClearPolitics.com
Posted by: Kevin C at September 09, 2015 12:11 PM (OT5Lm)

This is interesting. Trump really is a curve ball and it is difficult to come up with an objective way to predict what is going to happen around him.

I believe that if the GOP puts forward another Establishment guy, we are guaranteed to be looking at President Biden. Which is to heap mockery on insult because he is the most transparently creepy, tactless, dumb, and fake liar I have seen in politics. If the Dems beat us with Biden, they are going for humiliation - not just the win, but humiliation.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:23 PM (9UV3C)

329 He's trying to split the baby.

It's funny how even smart people have no idea how this metaphor works.

Solomon wasn't actually going to give part of the baby to each mother. He threatened to do so, knowing the baby's real mother would identify herself with her response.

The baby's abductor was fine with killing the child, because she had no love for it. The baby's real mother was willing to let the child live with its abductor rather than letting it be killed.

Solomon recognized the selfless response of the baby's true mother and ordered it given to her.

Splitting the baby is not a half-assed unworkable solution as you've formulated. It's a resolution of wisdom, knowledge of human behavior, and simplicity.

Posted by: UN President Sam Kutesa at September 09, 2015 12:24 PM (jhqr1)

330 Adult solution? Simple.

Elect Socialists.

They get all the blame and we get paid.

Easy peasy.


Posted by: GOP/e at September 09, 2015 12:24 PM (AYiiR)

331 Ah, fecundity and fertility. Remember the end of one of my favorites, Dr. Strangelove. What with economic collapse and WWIII almost certain to happen now, we need to start preparing to repopulate the earth. If we survive and we are the survivors, not the progtards.

As we learned from Dr. Strangelove himself, we need to set the female to male ratio at at least 10:1. At least, maybe 20:1. Then, we set about the tough job of some serious procreatin'. And all the womens we pick need to be hot and nubile, you know, to keep us up to the task. It's all to save humanity, you understand.

Every night, we're gonna have to fuck, fuck, fuck. We're gonna have to build our prostates and seminal vesicles and whatever else the hell (we'll have our Top Men working on) with supplements or pills, so we can minimize our refractory periods and shoot load after load of that baby making goo. Every damn night.

I know the task seems daunting, but I'm sure the Horde hear will rise to the task. And I mean rise.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 09, 2015 12:20 PM (dvuhZ)



Mein Fuhrer, I can fuck!!!


Posted by: Dr Strangenaturalfake at September 09, 2015 12:24 PM (0cMkb)

332 314 I may be weird but - if we believe in a God given right to freedom, doesn't that mean He would have given that to all people?

We were given free will.

What we do with that? Well, ............

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 09, 2015 12:24 PM (yMVjf)

333 Anyone one hear of "hegira"?
That's what this is.

Just wait until the Muslims are a large minority in Europe. (It won't need to be a majority, since Europeans won't/can't fight back.) The fist will come down hard, and the Caliphate will have enlarged.

Think: certain sections of Paris and London which are a no-go for kafirs (that's you and me, friend). Think: Dearbornistan.

That's what's coming. Do not doubt it.

Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at September 09, 2015 12:25 PM (0ISGt)

334 If I were a conservative with a lot of money to throw around on elections, I would instead bus up these people and drop them off at these bleeding heart's homes and video how it goes down.

Take them to their kids expensive private schools and inundate them with "street kids" and let' see how far their compassion goes.

It's easy to look like a bleeding heart when this is dumped on someone else.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:25 PM (jrJFb)

335 This is interesting. Trump really is a curve ball and it is difficult to come up with an objective way to predict what is going to happen around him.

Politics has become as scripted as the WWE. Meanwhile, Trump is shoot-fighting and cares nothing for your kabuki theater.

He's starting to look like an Out-of-Context Problem for American politics.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (9krrF)

336
the most transparently creepy, tactless, dumb, and fake liar I have seen in politics.

Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:23 PM (9UV3C)
------------------------

Really?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (HSmrB)

337 Kudos to Fiorina for saying what 99% of Americans are thinking, I guess in this day and age that's considered political courage.
Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (jrJFb)

Uhh... I think your 99% is probably closer to somewhere between 53% to 66%. Somewhere from one half to two thirds. Other than that, yes. The remainder constitute Romney's infamous 47% who are solidly and unchangeably progressive.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (9UV3C)

338 Okay. Will never even consider Rubio again. It was unlikely before but I can at least cross him off the list entirely now.

I understand his dilemma, considering his parents were refugees. But if you don't have the confidence to simply say, "the times and the situation are dramatically different." you're not ready to be President.

Too bad. I had really high hopes for him.

Posted by: Tommy at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (SRQwr)

339 solving adult problems like adults

Like Boehner and McConnell do, I suppose.

Posted by: *punt* at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (ZtFr+)

340 The GOPe is fucking toast, but they are too obtuse to admit it, even to themselves. They saw the Teaparty through the same eyes as the Democrats. For the same reasons. That is the reason they are doomed. And NOBODY is going to miss their dishonest asses.

Posted by: maddogg at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (xWW96)

341 "Why isnt theworld shaming Islamic countries for not absorbing these refugees?"

Only the ever compassionate West is stupid enough.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (jILzT)

342
Now trumpetdaddy. How many times do you purists need to have it explained to you? No candidate is going to agree with you on 100% of the issues. Trump should not be shunned by TruCons because he strays from the path a little. Also, with your age or Jeb-like ignorance are showing with the bit about poor widdle noble Mexicans coming for economic opportunity.

Somebody above did a decent job explaining at least one strain of Trump "supporters" (that term seems universally misunderstood). Retaliation. There's also another strain - strategic. If Trump can wound/take out the worst of the 17 (Yeb! Rubio Kasich), and recast the framework on illegal mass immigration without assimilation, he will have done his job.

He's actually already disappointing on the strategic front, but it's still early. When/if he is done doing these things, and stumbles out of the race, many will have no more distress at his political passing than did NKVD officers at the slaughter of penal units they forced into charges on German machine gun positions.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (QDnY+)

343 No, Rubio, just no. Please stop.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 09, 2015 12:27 PM (39g3+)

344 Last night on o'reilly Trump seemed to be expressing an opinion against taking in mid-east refugees

It's possible, just possible, that he doesn't hold hard and fast to his political positions.

Posted by: AD at September 09, 2015 12:27 PM (EE/cj)

345 Guys, on the refugee thing you've got a picture of a dead child on the beach.



You have to understand what the media does and how to play the game.


Trump's response on MSNBC and then last night with O'Reilly is perfect noncommittal. I'm fine with Rubio's answer too. And did you see his tell, which was later when he said he visited Paris recently and it looked a lot different then when he visited in the past. And he's not sure that's a good thing for Europe.


We could take in some refugees. I'm all for that. Just Christian ones. 500,000 is a fucking invasion and is pure crazy talk. I'd say 1,500 is a good number...

Posted by: prescient11 at September 09, 2015 12:27 PM (W7w/T)

346 Splitting the baby is not a half-assed unworkable solution as you've formulated. It's a resolution of wisdom, knowledge of human behavior, and simplicity.

Honestly, it shouldn't be called splitting the baby, since the point shouldn't actually be to actually, y'know, split the baby...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 09, 2015 12:27 PM (9krrF)

347 We've wondered about the amount of destruction Dear Leader will bring upon us. And he's far from done. Still over a year left. That's a long time in the Baraka era.

Posted by: Soona at September 09, 2015 12:28 PM (Fmupd)

348 No, I don't think it is America's responsibility to take in everybody, especially people who until yesterday were chanting "Death to America." I also don't think our current non-enforcement of our immigration laws regarding the southern border is optimal. But, I actually want real solutions, not empty nativist rhetoric.

You know, solving adult problems like adults and not like emoting teenagers, which is all Trump offers.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 09, 2015 12:13 PM (ljZD2)

----------------------

Real solution? You think the Gang of 8 was a real solution?

Here's a real solution, build a wall. Walls have been effective since the first introduction.

Walls have been used by almost every society on earth to prevent unwanted movement.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 09, 2015 12:28 PM (LXJ1e)

349 It's all a part of the plan for the Muslims to take over the west.

Posted by: Hank at September 09, 2015 12:28 PM (kHkDb)

350
Tell you what. Let's wait and see how it works out in Germany first.
Give 'em a couple of decades, then we'll talk.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2015 12:28 PM (wAQA5)

351 Really?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (HSmrB)

Yes. Really. Hillary's lies have only become so obvious because of the tremendous and meticulous documentation of actual facts and then comparing those with her statements.

Biden exudes dumb. Creepy just oozes out of him.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:28 PM (9UV3C)

352 >>Think: certain sections of Paris and London which are a no-go for kafirs (that's you and me, friend). Think: Dearbornistan.


And Sharia Zones in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019547/
Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-extremists-set-Sharia-law-zones-UK-cities.html

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (NOIQH)

353 Rubiobama.

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (ucB75)

354 Kudos to Fiorina for saying what 99% of Americans are thinking, I guess in this day and age that's considered political courage.
Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:17 PM (jrJFb)

Uhh... I think your 99% is probably closer to somewhere between 53% to 66%. Somewhere from one half to two thirds. Other than that, yes. The remainder constitute Romney's infamous 47% who are solidly and unchangeably progressive.
Posted by: Sambo


I meant on the issue of taking in Syrian refugees, I really don't see a large swath of average Americans wanting to take these people in, even among traditional Democrats.

This is something the elites want in their ivory towers because they'll never have to deal with it.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (jrJFb)

355 Ace,


Perfect thought, I think Prime Minister of New Zealand had it right and is proposing exactly what you are. We'll take some women and children, the men get a rifle and are shipped back to Syria to fight ISIS.


You've got to get this right for the media. Which is why Trump beautifully answered that Chuck Todd question. You've got to keep the families together Chuck, we'll send them all home! LOL

Posted by: prescient11 at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (W7w/T)

356 Trump should not be shunned by TruCons because he strays from the path a little.

He strays from the path enormously; he's Bill Clinton in 1992. But hey, who cares at this point, he's fun and how much worse could he be than Obama?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (39g3+)

357 Politics has become as scripted as the WWE. Meanwhile, Trump is shoot-fighting and cares nothing for your kabuki theater.

He's starting to look like an Out-of-Context Problem for American politics.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

I wouldn't say that trump isn't engaging in theater; the number of cameos he's done indicates otherwise.

He's the actor that can produce, write, direct and self finance. Therefore, he's able to act quite differently. And he does. And he gets noticed.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (Spluw)

358 We could take in some refugees. I'm all for that. Just Christian ones. 500,000 is a fucking invasion and is pure crazy talk. I'd say 1,500 is a good number...


Partial to zero meself. Also like nada, zip, and none atall equally well.

Posted by: maddogg at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (xWW96)

359 Every refugee I've ever "worked" with over the age of 30 shared two common guiding principles which they vocalized vociferously;

a) F*ck your Jesus
b) F*ck your democracy

They were just here for the free shit. Wonderful folks.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2015 12:30 PM (UzPAd)

360 Adult Solutions for Adult Problems?

Depends.

Posted by: GOP/e at September 09, 2015 12:30 PM (AYiiR)

361 Perfect thought, I think Prime Minister of New Zealand had it right and is proposing exactly what you are. We'll take some women and children, the men get a rifle and are shipped back to Syria to fight ISIS.

I like that idea just fine.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 09, 2015 12:30 PM (39g3+)

362 Politics has become as scripted as the WWE. Meanwhile, Trump is shoot-fighting and cares nothing for your kabuki theater.

He's starting to look like an Out-of-Context Problem for American politics.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 09, 2015 12:26 PM (9krrF)

That's a good way to say it.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (9UV3C)

363 I wonder what point we have to cross before we go back to deciding fighting a war against a group like ISIS is a good idea.

Posted by: AD at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (EE/cj)

364 Whoever says that I'm not feminine can suck my dick!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 12:19 PM (ETxiG)
---------------------------------------------
Since he has been on estrogen therapy, he is almost certainly impotent by now.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (E5UB0)

365 "How about we just say no to Muslims period?"

Responsible, adult countries like China and Russia don't want what comes with Muslim immigration. Bleeding heart West will soon be bled dry.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (jILzT)

366 The truth is that Marco Rubio doesn't give half a baby turd whether he becomes president or not. He said so himself a long time ago, but like with Obama, we didn't listen.

Do you remember when asked if he was going to try to run for senate if he ran for president? He said (and this is very close to an exact quote) that he didn't want to spend his life in politics.

Rubio isn't, and has never been, on the fast track to the presidency. He has been on the fast track to K street.

Look at his past. Sure he was an attractive, young, ethnic politician. But he wasn't particularly astute. He failed at some 'get rich quick' type investments.

No. He was told to get to congress, establish his bona fides, and retire to K street. That's where this shit is coming from. He is just being a good boy and doing what he's told.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (BZAd3)

367 The Chinese built a wall. A great one. The problem with it was invaders paid the gatekeepers to let them through.

Posted by: Hank at September 09, 2015 12:31 PM (kHkDb)

368
You know, solving adult problems like adults like blindly voting by party affiliation, since they've been so truthful.

Take it from me; I should know, since I'm a self-pronounced troll.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy

Posted by: I blow my daddy at September 09, 2015 12:32 PM (Spluw)

369
Rubio, you putz! I liked you well enough when you were in the Florida House. I liked you well enough when you were running against the Orange Gecko. I liked you well enough when you were a junior senator.

But vote for you for president? nah, if I have to have Democrat talking points jammed up my ass, I'd rather have the full bore Progressive doing such a thing to me.

Enjoy life as a private citizen, chump.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 09, 2015 12:32 PM (1hM1d)

370 361 Perfect thought, I think Prime Minister of New Zealand had it right and is proposing exactly what you are. We'll take some women and children, the men get a rifle and are shipped back to Syria to fight ISIS.

I agree... They need to go back to there own damned country and fight to save it... Same goes for the illegals from South of the border.... Fix your own "place" and quit stinking up Ours...

Posted by: donna at September 09, 2015 12:32 PM (hUdMz)

371 You people are ignoring hard labor. They could be used in mines or fields where we wouldn't want to risk valuable equipment.



Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 09, 2015 12:32 PM (AC0lD)

372 It is funny seeing how Trumpkins want Latino Christians gone from America but support letting Muslims in.

Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 09, 2015 12:33 PM (EqxIp)

373 Partial to zero meself. Also like nada, zip, and none atall equally well.
Posted by: maddogg

+1

Once you concede the idea that taking some of them live here is "compassionate" you've already lost the argument.

Parachute down some canned goods and call it a day.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:33 PM (jrJFb)

374
367 The Chinese built a wall. A great one.

It wasn't designed to keep the invaders out.

It was designed to keep the invaders from taking all the bling back home to Mongolia. At which point they set up shop in China.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (1hM1d)

375 "How about we take in only Christians. You know, like all those Yazidis being martyred, tortured, sold into slavery."

Yazidis are their own weird pagan religion, not Christians

Posted by: Just Sayin' at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (2kjDY)

376 Pedantic rant on:
Two immediate effects from EUroweenies accepting x tens of thousands of refugees. 1) it encourages more folks to leave them homes and take to flimsy boats to cross the Med to Greece or Italy . They aint hopping on Southwest to fly to Düsseldorf
2) Greece and Italy and all the other countries between the Med and Germany or Dweden or whoever offers asylum will do their best to speed folks on their way. It may be buses like Hungary or boxcars but the goal is to keep them moving.
It's a humanitarians dilemma. You can't send them back- seriously , how would you physically do that? They can't stay in tents on the beach in Lesbos forever either. And even if the Gulf Arabs agreed to take some, a choice between Berlin and Dubai seems like a no brainer to me.
Rant done .

Posted by: Jim in virginia at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (YQOb9)

377 Once you concede the idea that taking some of them live here is "compassionate" you've already lost the argument.

Parachute down some canned goods and call it a day.


Oh, and drop some frozen turkeys while You're at it...

Posted by: donna at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (hUdMz)

378 "Some are converting en masse thinking it will enhance their ability to immigrate."

Taqqiya, my dear.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (jILzT)

379 I meant on the issue of taking in Syrian refugees, I really don't see a large swath of average Americans wanting to take these people in, even among traditional Democrats.

This is something the elites want in their ivory towers because they'll never have to deal with it.
Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (jrJFb)

I see your point, but still disagree. I base this on my *in depth analysis* of the number of liberal articles shared by liberal people on my facebook feed. The same people who advocate every other left-wing propaganda misinformation piece are advocating that compassion be shown to these refugees. Every one of them.

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:35 PM (9UV3C)

380
The only ones from Syria that we should take are Christians or Jews. Few of the former, almost none of the later.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 09, 2015 12:35 PM (1hM1d)

381 Oh, and drop some frozen turkeys while You're at it...

Posted by: donna at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (hUdMz)


And bacon!


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 09, 2015 12:35 PM (AC0lD)

382 If being a natavist means caring more about American citizens than another country's citizens... Well you got me.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at September 09, 2015 12:36 PM (HstNY)

383
BACK AWAY, RDBREWER!!!

They cant be bargained with, they cant be reasoned with. They dont feel pity or remorse. And they will never STFU.

Seriously, they are mentally ill and I wd consider them dangerous.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 09, 2015 12:37 PM (iQIUe)

384 Oh, and drop some frozen turkeys while You're at it...
Posted by: donna at September 09, 2015 12:34 PM (hUdMz)


Make sure Rubio and "act of love" Jeb are in the bomb bay at the drop.

Posted by: maddogg at September 09, 2015 12:37 PM (xWW96)

385 "So how exactly do these staving refugees who need o have their food delivered. Afford cell phones?"

Not only that, take a look at their clothing, the latest style jeans. Not some cheap charity stuff.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:37 PM (jILzT)

386 He strays from the path enormously; he's Bill Clinton in 1992. But hey, who cares at this point, he's fun and how much worse could he be than Obama?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 09, 2015 12:29 PM (39g3+)


Eh, Obama's not the benchmark.

Seriously.

It's Jeb!, Rubio, Kasich, Christie, etc-

if I'm going to get Democrat policies which damage, the nation and middle class,

then I, at least, want one thing in return.

Trump promises border security, end to sanctuary cities, etc.

Jeb!, Rubio, Kasich, Christie promise me Democrat policies plus a big middle finger.

If that's the choice, I pick Trump.


That being said, I'd much prefer Cruz/Carly or maybe better Carly/Cruz.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2015 12:37 PM (0cMkb)

387
Yazidis are their own weird pagan religion, not Christians

And I'm cool with that. Notice that they've lived for a very long time on the side of that mountain, not bothering anyone. Until ISIS showed up on their door step, and even then they weren't bothering anyone except the religious purists.

Beside, many of their women are hot.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 09, 2015 12:38 PM (1hM1d)

388 New thread

Posted by: Sambo at September 09, 2015 12:38 PM (9UV3C)

389 Any refugee should be held conditionally: be loyal, productive, and crime-free or you go back.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 09, 2015 12:38 PM (39g3+)

390 389 Any refugee should be held conditionally: be loyal, productive, and crime-free or you go back.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

That shit never works. They never get sent home no matter what they do.

See Sanctuary Cities for an example.

Posted by: Coolio at September 09, 2015 12:40 PM (jrJFb)

391 Syrian immigrants - blowing up the people Americans won't.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2015 12:40 PM (78TbK)

392 Another thing I love about South Korea is I have not seen one freaking article about them taking in one lousy refugee. I respect that.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 09, 2015 12:41 PM (AC0lD)

393 Great idea!
Let's take in some male Syrian Muslim chickenshits who are too afraid to fight for their ancestral homeland.

Posted by: BHO at September 09, 2015 12:42 PM (4QW48)

394
Trump promises border security, end to sanctuary cities, etc.

Jeb!, Rubio, Kasich, Christie promise me Democrat policies plus a big middle finger.

If that's the choice, I pick Trump.


Ding! we have a winnah!

I'm sick of these people who want me to keep my wallet open and my mouth shut. If they want to promote Proggy political goals, they should become Proggies. I've been sick of this since McAmnesty in 2008.

No more.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 09, 2015 12:42 PM (1hM1d)

395 344 It's possible, just possible, that he doesn't hold hard and fast to his political positions.

I agree, but it'd be nice to have a limit of one position per spoken sentence.

Posted by: Roscoe at September 09, 2015 12:43 PM (lHpdV)

396 Go Carly! Why don't citizens get a say in whom we let into our country?

Misstep by Donald on this one.

Posted by: Mark in Portland at September 09, 2015 12:43 PM (x154c)

397 "363 I wonder what point we have to cross before we go back to deciding fighting a war against a group like ISIS is a good idea."

An actual American minded person must win the next election first. No improvement will happen while Obama is president, he will not allow it.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:52 PM (jILzT)

398 "and don't forget the Boston Marathon bombers came here as refugees."

So did the Ft Dix Six.

Posted by: elliot at September 09, 2015 12:54 PM (1br/a)

399 "If being a natavist means caring more about American citizens than another country's citizens... Well you got me."

Eons ago it was also known as patriotism.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:55 PM (jILzT)

400 397 "363 I wonder what point we have to cross before we go back to deciding fighting a war against a group like ISIS is a good idea."

An actual American minded person must win the next election first. No improvement will happen while Obama is president, he will not allow it.
Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 12:52 PM (jILzT)

I don't think that changes it, though. I don't think we have an interest in it or the stomach for it--at least for the prolonged steps that would be required for us to accomplish something.

I think this is the biggest change in America's foreign policy in my lifetime outside of the fall of the USSR. For most of my time on this planet, attacking a weak, genocidal group threatening millions of people that plotted and encouraged terrorist attacks against the U.S. would have been a no-brainer.

Posted by: AD at September 09, 2015 01:01 PM (EE/cj)

401 Every time I hear Rubio speak, I get less interested in what a Rubio presidency might look like.

Posted by: Advo at September 09, 2015 01:05 PM (7vbG1)

402 Former NSA Director Mullen argued that we need more immigrants from Muslim countries so the CIA and NSA can hire them to spy on all the terrorists . . . from Muslim countries. That's the kind of second-level thinking we need from an NSA director.

Posted by: bjk at September 09, 2015 01:07 PM (nReQz)

403 AD, we will have no choice but to exterminate ISIS. They will burn and pillage the Middle East scattering the populations throughout the world and destabilizing host countries.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 01:10 PM (jILzT)

404 Advo, I have never had any interest in Rubio, had him pegged for an opportunist without convictions. His rote humble immigrant origins speech just grates.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 01:12 PM (jILzT)

405 "402 Former NSA Director Mullen argued that we need more immigrants from Muslim countries so the CIA and NSA can hire them to spy on all the terrorists . . . from Muslim countries. That's the kind of second-level thinking we need from an NSA director."


I like the minimalist approach, if you had no Muslim terrorists in your country you would not need spies to keep tabs on them.

Posted by: Decaf at September 09, 2015 01:16 PM (jILzT)

406 Actually it was Mike Hayden, not Mullen, who said that.

Posted by: bjk at September 09, 2015 01:18 PM (nReQz)

407 Yesterday I was interviewed by the OPM about a neighbor who was apparently getting a new security clearance. It should be on the net in a few weeks.

Posted by: bjk at September 09, 2015 01:21 PM (nReQz)

408 I think we see the mindset that the Middle East has always been a shit hole and always will be.

Umm, yea, about that....

Posted by: Israel at September 09, 2015 01:41 PM (WvS3w)

409 Rubio is truly a cuck.

Posted by: thespellingpolice at September 09, 2015 01:54 PM (F9l4e)

410 But while, to the immigrant, entry to this country was admission to privileges and opportunities eagerly sought, the impact upon the existing population was very different. For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country.

Posted by: Zombie Forgotton British Poll at September 09, 2015 02:13 PM (k8tEg)

411 So Rubio wants to "let in the good ones?" From Syria? Odd how there wasn't a refugee crisis when it was just Christian Arabs fleeing genocide.

Throw Rubio on the burning rubbish of Bush and Graham, and douse the pile with some more gas.

Posted by: A cat pissing in the toilet at September 09, 2015 03:56 PM (6gR7l)

412 So in 10 years there will be a great epic poem on the great Islamic Terrorist Horse trick of 2015, where simultaneous attacks in all great Western countries occurred and the great mystery of the shrinking of the ISIS army is revealed?

Posted by: doug at September 09, 2015 07:30 PM (G24Hr)

413 Trump also said: "We have to find out WHERE these people are coming from and WHAT they represent" then he said they are a "security risk" and they might have ISIS ties.

On the trail, in every speech, Trump mentions Christians in the Middle East and how badly they are treated by Obama. He even said "Christians from Syria cannot get in, but Muslims can easily get in" so, based on this, I think Trump is like Abbott of Australia and only wants Christians to come. I can't disagree with that, IF we can prove they are Christians and not Taqqiya "Christians".

ISIS said in February that this was a plot of theirs, to send 500,000 migrants to Europe. The UN says that 72% are young males. So... I don't want any of them except Christians.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 09, 2015 08:22 PM (xetep)

414 Lemee see, lemee see, lemee see...we can't figure out the one profile that makes young Moslem men want to go fight as Moslem fanatics... what could it be...Maybe!, no wait, no, no, no... what could it be? Do ya think it could be because they're fricken Moslems !?!!??

Posted by: Frank at September 09, 2015 10:34 PM (xhWyo)

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