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Not Important: Stopping the Iran Nuke Deal
Important: Getting a Loyalty Pledge From Trump


So once again they're demanding that Trump sign a loyalty oath.

Which might not be the worst thing, but I also see the RNC has not undertaken to promise that neither it nor the state parties will use their power to keep him off the ballots.

They only seem to care about their sinecures.

Once again we have a party which will not resort to extraordinary measures to fulfill any of their policy promises to voters resorting to extraordinary measures to save themselves and their dear, dear Donor Class.


Posted by: Ace at 06:23 PM




Comments

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1 Loyalty to what? Principles? No, party.

Posted by: duke at September 02, 2015 06:25 PM (mDxGf)

2 Let's go have lunch with our good friends Chuck and Harry down in the Senate dining room. We'll get some business done.

Posted by: duke at September 02, 2015 06:26 PM (mDxGf)

3 My Loyalty is to the Trump Brand, alone.

Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin at September 02, 2015 06:27 PM (oOvfk)

4 Hey, Harry, did you see what we told the rabble, "we'll repeal Obamacare." They bought it!

Mitch

Posted by: duke at September 02, 2015 06:28 PM (mDxGf)

5 So.. the new meme on libtard blogs is that if you are against the deal, and actively opposing the deal, you are guilty of treason.

No shit.. their Chocolate Messiah goes to the UN BEFORE going to Congress as he agreed, but the GOP are traitors.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 02, 2015 06:28 PM (rEEK1)

6 Will !jeb! be signing the loyalty oath?

Posted by: goatweed at September 02, 2015 06:28 PM (8HrdX)

7 Trump shouldn't sign it. Screw the GOP.

Posted by: Rich at September 02, 2015 06:29 PM (J2AJ8)

8 It's like they are pushing me to Trump. I can't wait for the Senate resolution on this.

Posted by: ryukyu at September 02, 2015 06:29 PM (j29PP)

9 Determined to cut off their noses to spite their faces, right?

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 06:29 PM (ry4ab)

10 Party? We have no Party.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 06:30 PM (t2KH5)

11 who is to be boss

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:30 PM (Uk9e2)

12 I don't think Trump would see any benefit to running as an independent. Even if he came in second, he'd still lose. I suspect Trump, if he's really serious, wants to win the whole thing.
Anyway, I call BS: didn't the GOP establishment endorse Charlie Crist over Rubio a few years ago? And how did Crist pay them back?

Posted by: mallfly at September 02, 2015 06:30 PM (qSIlh)

13 I like the one comment on the Hot Air post.

"Trump to GOPe 16: you sign it first."

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 06:30 PM (ry4ab)

14 Eff them effin effers!!!! They do not, will not, and evidently can not get it. Eeeeeffffff..pftt

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 06:31 PM (QM0v/)

15 >>>It's like they are pushing me to Trump.

i feel like that too.

I just want to hurt them. I've given up caring about anything else. (Thanks to them -- they just don't want to implement their promises, or are simply incapable of it; either way, there's no political wish I have that they can satisfy.)

Posted by: ace at September 02, 2015 06:31 PM (dciA+)

16 Gee, I wonder what other kinds of regimes made their members sign loyalty oaths? I know it will come to me sooner or later.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 02, 2015 06:31 PM (9iR5/)

17 We're taking a government shutdown into serious consideration. We won't fund the government until Trump relents.

Posted by: The Show Opposition at September 02, 2015 06:32 PM (FohCt)

18 in return for lifting all sanctions against the leading state sponsor of terror, we get?

I'll take "jack shit" for it, alex

Posted by: Obama the Ass at September 02, 2015 06:33 PM (Uk9e2)

19 Super-Duper Really Important: Climate Change!

Posted by: BHO at September 02, 2015 06:34 PM (afHTq)

20 Trump has laid bare all the crap that has infested the party. Fcuk them.

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 06:34 PM (QM0v/)

21 Trump should tell them all that he could buy and sell them and fuck off.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 02, 2015 06:34 PM (YFFpo)

22 I'm rage stroking... Trump is an ass, but at least he's a freaking fighter, and he does like to win, and I think the more they push him the more he comes over to the our side (the dark side). I'm convinced that if someone says he can't do something he will do everything in his power to do it, he has an ego and he hates losing, this could work to our advantage, at least short term. At the very least he's a good manager, and what a good manager does is line up smart people to handle things he cannot. I think this is what he would do. Or maybe I should just pour another glass of wine and GFMS.

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 06:34 PM (KTiWT)

23 Harumph!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 02, 2015 06:35 PM (4ErVI)

24 I don't like The Donald but I like the way he gets the party to show themselves for the cocks***kers that they actually are.

If he breaks the GOP, that's halfway to breaking the Dems.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 06:36 PM (laMCB)

25 Super-Duper Really Important: Climate Change!

Posted by: BHO


Totes with ya, broheim!

Posted by: Jebba the Hutt at September 02, 2015 06:36 PM (JmGFJ)

26 After Corker selling us out on Iran and Mitch selling out on *PP + long list of other crap I want Trump to go 3rd party but in a serious way not a Perot tease and then quit. Kill the GOP with fire, and scatter the stones where they lived.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 02, 2015 06:36 PM (dkExz)

27 19 Super-Duper Really Important: Climate Change!
----------
Yeah, yeah. The polar bears, glaciers, we're all gonna die. Same old story, same old song and dance.
Let's try something new. Here, pull my finger!

Posted by: Old Blue at September 02, 2015 06:36 PM (9iR5/)

28 Thanks to a RINO the Dems only had to get 38 votes to OK the Iran Sellout.


We need to primary that RINO in the next election.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 06:36 PM (t2KH5)

29 what "deal"? Parchin will be "monitored by whatever the Iranian military decides to give to the UN to fuck with it"

Obama and Kerry get a paper in return that says "they tried"

bullshit

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:37 PM (Uk9e2)

30 Anybody else reminded of "The Great Loyalty Oath Crusade" in Catch-22? Just sign these twenty oaths before chow...

Posted by: Severian at September 02, 2015 06:37 PM (aCRMo)

31 They should rewrite it in Spanish.

Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 06:37 PM (ETxiG)

32 Will Bitch and Boner promise to kill themselves if Trump signs?

I'd take that deal.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 06:38 PM (laMCB)

33 >>I'll take "jack shit" for it, alex

Don't kid yourself, we will get a lot from this deal. Just nothing we want.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 06:38 PM (OGm46)

34 Anyway, I call BS: didn't the GOP establishment endorse Charlie Crist over Rubio a few years ago? And how did Crist pay them back?

Posted by: mallfly


And Arlen Spector, and Jim Jeffords, and ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 06:38 PM (JmGFJ)

35 Trump should tie his pledge to a government shutdown.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:39 PM (27JXp)

36 One is a closed deal , the other is a ongoing negotiation

Posted by: skip at September 02, 2015 06:39 PM (02CDz)

37 Trump owes those turdheaded dickless bastards nothing.
(No disrespect intended turd ferguson)

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 02, 2015 06:39 PM (R4vR0)

38 heh, fuck em.

I have been ignoring Iran deal .. you know because of the Logan Act but the idea that 34 brain dead liberal senators is enough to pass a law is really a surrender that the GOP orchestrated for Obama (bc not giving Iran a nuke would only drive moderates from the GOP) which has driven the base to trump.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 02, 2015 06:40 PM (9aeyG)

39 re 29: well, as John Kerry might say, isn't it better to neigh than fight?
I can't believe that there are people who lived long enough to see Hitler defeated and the Soviet Union fall and now they need to live through this crap. Thanks, Sen Corksucker.

Posted by: mallfly at September 02, 2015 06:40 PM (qSIlh)

40 After Corker selling us out on Iran

ALL of them sold us out. Cruz, Rubio, lunatic McCain, Queen Graham...

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:40 PM (27JXp)

41 Ok, Mr. Trump, first I make a cut on my arm with this knife. Then you do the same to yours. Then we press them together.

At the end of it, you will be a thirty third degree RINO.

Posted by: Reince Priapus at September 02, 2015 06:41 PM (E5UB0)

42 fter Corker selling us out on Iran

ALL of them sold us out. Cruz, Rubio, lunatic McCain, Queen Graham...
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:40 PM (27JXp)

How did Cruz sell us out to Iran?

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 06:41 PM (KTiWT)

43 my dimwitted senator is on the yes list

no concept, he just couldn't care less, or he believes proliferating nukes will make the ME more stable

there are people who actually believe that

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:42 PM (Uk9e2)

44 I thought Kristol would be all in on the loyalty oath.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 06:42 PM (W5DcG)

45 How did Cruz sell us out to Iran?

The vote was 98-1 for Corker's bill. Cruz was a yes.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:43 PM (27JXp)

46 How about a loyalty oath for the party platform, Constitution, or their party members?

The article I read about this last week basically portrayed the SC an VA GOP thinking they were oh so clever in finding a way to keep Trump off the ticket, so sure were they that Trump would refuse.

Got that? Intentionally attempting to kneecap their party's frontrunner - and the ~30% who would want to vote for him (at least based on the current polling.

How does a party so willing to tell ~30% of their members to f$#@ off survive?

Again, not a Trump supporter, but someone who is totes turned off by the GOP's high school-grade cliquishness.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 06:43 PM (NOIQH)

47 "How did Cruz sell us out to Iran?"

Voted yea on the Corker change of rules, which, that rule is clearly unconstitutional, so double extra bad.

Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 06:43 PM (ETxiG)

48 45 How did Cruz sell us out to Iran?

The vote was 98-1 for Corker's bill. Cruz was a yes.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
__________

I thought Cruz was absent.

Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 06:44 PM (UlJ3l)

49 How about a loyalty oath from Kristol that he will vote for Trump if Trump is the nominee?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:44 PM (0LHZx)

50 >>The vote was 98-1 for Corker's bill. Cruz was a yes.

I have my issues with Cruz, mainly tactical, but do you really think he of all people is a sellout?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 06:45 PM (OGm46)

51
Alternate poat title:

Before the 2014 Elections, 53 Democrats Controlled The U.S. Senate. After the Republicans Won The Majority In The 2014 Elections, 34 Democrats Controlled The U.S. Senate



(Stick that in you pipe and smoke it, Bill Kristol, you donkey)

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:45 PM (iGCx2)

52 Cruz didn't vote on Corker's bill.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:45 PM (0LHZx)

53 Trump should do EXACTLY what the GOPe has done, make his promise to them, and renege on it.

When Yertle and Agent Orange complain and squeal, ask them how it feels, and if it reminds them of anything they might have been doing the last six-plus years.

Posted by: acethepug at September 02, 2015 06:45 PM (RHPFv)

54 Give everybody eat!

Major ___ de Coverly

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at September 02, 2015 06:45 PM (4avHv)

55 48 45 How did Cruz sell us out to Iran?

The vote was 98-1 for Corker's bill. Cruz was a yes.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
__________

I thought Cruz was absent.
Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 06:44 PM (UlJ3l)


I did too, but this says otherwise.

http://m.therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-why-i-voted-yes-for-corker-iran-bill/

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:46 PM (27JXp)

56
Agree or Disagree?

If there were 99 Republicans and just 1 Democrat in the Senate, the Democrat would control the Senate.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (iGCx2)

57 O/T.... I turned ad-blocker off to visit the Bills website, then came back here...Holy shit, I never realized all the ads on this smart blog! Even had one from my actual small-time back up on the header! And this certainly isn't a complaint; I'm glad of it. The more Ewok Bucks that come in, the longer this joint will be around.....

OK, back to it.... whatever it is....

Posted by: Dirty Randy at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (xOu6p)

58 I also heard from the street that the loyalty oath also requires applicants to wear pastel-colored polo shirts with popped collars.

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (3tjn4)

59 A loyalty oath to what or who exactly? I would whip my dick out and piss on it. Idiots. Sounds like something Jeb! came up with. Gutless fuckers.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (ucDmr)

60 Trump wants this. Wait for it.


He will sign a pledge. Just on his terms. Do you know in 15-20 states the vote of the people doesn't matter? Trump could win, say VA big, and part bosses could say fuck that, our winner is Jeb! One guy has this power in a state.


Roger Stone has explicitly mentioned this. So any pledge will contain Trump's terms, the primary voters decide mofos. And he will probably pledge not to run third party, I don't like saying you promise to support unknown guy, although at debate you see, they're all on record about this except Trump. So any third party Anderson 1980s run would be not only sore loser, but liar.


But anyway, Trump wants this badly. What better way to shut Romney the fuck up and completely deball the tsunami of negative "he's a dem" attack ads. Trump can destroy whole negative campaign by saying, I evolved and took a pledge to the party, what's the big fucking deal, what do they want, a blood oath?


5th dimensional chess.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (S85kT)

61 32 Will Bitch and Boner promise to kill themselves if Trump signs?

I'd take that deal.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 06:38 PM (laMCB)


Eh, that would just turn out to be another in a long string of promises the two have made that they have no intention of keeping after getting someone else (Trump rather than voters this time) to buy into their snake oil product.

Now if they went with killing themselves first I might suspect they actually may live up to a promise for a change.

Posted by: Bete says it is going to burn, why bother putting it off? at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (Ojki1)

62 Trump's response should be...

This is the USA, not a banana republic. I will not make any loyalty oaths other than the oath I take on Jan 20, 2017.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (0LHZx)

63
It's a trick question!

Most Republicans are Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM (iGCx2)

64 They can't make the base take a loyalty pledge


And that is a huge problem. For them. N


How about they take a loyalty pledge. They know all about being disloyal. This is projection

Posted by: ThunderB at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

65 I have my issues with Cruz, mainly tactical, but do you really think he of all people is a sellout?

Cruz is just theater of a different kind.

So is Trump, but the GOP is having a fit over him.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (27JXp)

66 >>>How about a loyalty oath for the party platform, Constitution, or their party members?

Beat me to it. Amazing these hypocrites expect loyalty to them, but feel no need to be loyal to their constituency.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (E5UB0)

67 the frickin side deal about Parchin made this whole charade possible

Obama and Kerry are TRAITORS

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (Uk9e2)

68 IIRC, someone last week posted that the head of the VA GOP is also head of a Contractor's trade group (i.e., as a contractor he probably likes having illegals available for cheap labor). So, attempting to keep Trump off the ballot because of business interests.

Nice.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (NOIQH)

69 "All you have to do is be our pal."

Posted by: Col.Cathcart and Col.Korn at September 02, 2015 06:49 PM (e8ge6)

70 If only the GOPe were as dedicated to pissing on Democrats as much as they are to pissing on other Republicans.

Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 06:49 PM (vsbNu)

71 I also heard from the street that the loyalty oath also requires applicants to wear pastel-colored polo shirts with popped collars.
Posted by: Fritz


No blue jeans!

Posted by: George Will at September 02, 2015 06:49 PM (W5DcG)

72 Whoa. So now Cruz is a RINO / sellout? WTF! If even Ted Cruz isn't pure enough, who the hell is?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (0LHZx)

73
I'm also pissed off at, but not surprised, Lindsey Graham.

He went on MSNBC and said, heheheh Trump has consolidated for us all the Republicans who believe obama is a muslim and was born in Kenya, heheheh.

Republicans hate and despise me as much as I hate and despise them. Go figure.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (iGCx2)

74 15
>>>It's like they are pushing me to Trump.



i feel like that too.



I just want to hurt them. I've given up caring about anything else.
(Thanks to them -- they just don't want to implement their promises, or
are simply incapable of it; either way, there's no political wish I have
that they can satisfy.)

------------

At this point the GOP deserves Trump as a candidate.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (ry4ab)

75 And what I meant was, every other candidate is on record stating they would support Trump if he wins.


Trump has freedom to say fuck Jeb!

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (S85kT)

76 agreed

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (Uk9e2)

77 http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-why-i-voted-yes-for-corker-iran-bill/

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 06:50 PM (KTiWT)

78 49 How about a loyalty oath from Kristol that he will vote for Trump if Trump is the nominee?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:44 PM (0LHZx)


Now there's an idea. I can think of a lot of RINOs I'd like to see take that oath, after the way they told us to suck it up and vote for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

79 I did too, but this says otherwise.

http://m.therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-why-i-voted-yes-for-corker-iran-bill/
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
________

Thanks for the correction and the link.

Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (UlJ3l)

80 i tried to post the text of that, but it's above pixy's pay grade.

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (KTiWT)

81 Ink, Trump's ass, loyalty oath: some assembly required.

Posted by: eman at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (mR7Es)

82 Trump should say "You first"

Posted by: ThunderB at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (zOTsN)

83 DIAF GOP
KMA GOP
FOAD GOP
FU GOP
STFU GOP
GFY GOP
ESAD GOP

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 02, 2015 06:51 PM (24wi6)

84 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (27JXp)


Just curious.

Who's your guy?


Zombie Ronald Reagan told me he wasn't coming back.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 06:52 PM (0cMkb)

85 I, myself, come from a long line of Muggletonians. Ranting is genetic with me. Asking me to sign a loyalty oath would be very much like asking Thomas Paine to endure a lifetime of corset stay manufacture in perpetual servitude.

Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 06:52 PM (CC8Go)

86
The GOP never took a loyalty oath to me, in fact I think they took an oath to the DNC.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (ODxAs)

87 "you first"

heh, but they have no problem being loyal to the DC krewe

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (Uk9e2)

88 How about getting Jeb! to sign a loyalty oath to the United States?

Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (vsbNu)

89 In 2008 we had the most RINOiest of RINOs as the candidate. And still many prominent "conservative" pundits supported Obama. But yeah...party loyalty!!

Fuck off.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (0LHZx)

90 I never realized all the ads on this
smart blog...And this certainly isn't a complaint; I'm glad of it. The more
Ewok Bucks that come in, the longer this joint will be around.....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at September 02, 2015 06:47 PM

--------------

Yeah, me too. I fell a bit sorry for coming here with AdblockPlus always on but, for Pete's sake, the whole damn internet just works when I use it. All that shit my pc doesn't have to download. There's always the tip jar. It's been years now but I'll wait 'till I'm re-mployed before hitting it again.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (7d8Ef)

91 Loyalty pledges are a terrific idea.

**looks around confused**

Where am I?

**stares vacantly, drooling on self**

Posted by: Thad "Loves Me Some Farm Animals" Cochran at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (dplSG)

92 "I [name] affirm that if I do not win the 2016 Republican nomination for president of the United States I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee regardless of who it is.

I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek or accept the nomination for president of any other party."


Hell no.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (NOIQH)

93 >>I did too, but this says otherwise.

Did you read the entire article? Just curious because it is approximately what I have been saying here for months.

Cruz, by universal agreement, is a real Constitutional scholar. He voted for this bill because there was zero chance this was every going to be presented to the Senate as a treaty. Cruz is also a damn good politician and realized that the only chance this thing had to get any public review was the Corker/Mendez bill.

Which seems more likely, that Cruz and every other Republican Senator, even the conservative ones, turned into Iran nuke loving liberals or maybe they knew this deal was done at the UN?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (OGm46)

94 Before the 2014 Elections, 53 Democrats Controlled The U.S. Senate. After the Republicans Won The Majority In The 2014 Elections, 34 Democrats Controlled The U.S. Senate
***
GOP leadership...voila.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (9aeyG)

95
Buncha fuckin' hypocrite cocksucking ratfucking backstabbing scum.

It's usually the *Establishment* candidates that throw a tantrum and run third-party, defect to the Donks or run as a write-in. Almost always after a conservative or populist candidate kicks their ass in the primary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (o98Jz)

96 Actually, Trump should make the restriction of the Republican Primaries,

strictly for those registered as Republicans part of the deal.


I know, I know.

But, he could make that part of his running platform and that would score YUUUUUUUGGGGEEE with the base.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (0cMkb)

97
Question!

Who here didn't like Trump in the beginning but is now with him?

At first I thought Trump was just funning around pretending to be a candidate. I dismissed him. And I was always indifferent towards the man.

Now, I like him. A lot. I like Donald Trump more each time I hear him. He's charming and really funny. Who knew!

I'm living vicariously through Trump. I haven't been this giddy about politics in forever.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (iGCx2)

98 Loyalty oaths are great.

Just imagine if we had every person taking government Office take an oath to...I don't know, maybe support and defend the Constitution.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal, now with more fetus. at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (VPLuQ)

99 hey moo, it's possible to be pissed at something someone DOES and still keep the jury out on what that person IS

but patience wears thin after a while

the truth eventually will out

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (Uk9e2)

100 73 I'm also pissed off at, but not surprised, Lindsey Graham.

He went on MSNBC and said, heheheh Trump has consolidated for us all the Republicans who believe obama is a muslim and was born in Kenya, heheheh.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle
____________

Likewise, Graham has consolidated all the Republicans who just want to vote for a woman but don't like Carly Fiorina.

Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (UlJ3l)

101 Have we gone full Godwin yet?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (jR7Wy)

102 oh, and when you see a snarky tweet like that from Bill Kristol it's bad.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (7d8Ef)

103 Yeah, me too. I fell a bit sorry for coming here with AdblockPlus always on but, for Pete's sake, the whole damn internet just works when I use it. All that shit my pc doesn't have to download. There's always the tip jar. It's been years now but I'll wait 'till I'm re-mployed before hitting it again.
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (7d8Ef)


--Also, when you make an Amazon purchase, go through the linky on the HQ home page.

Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 06:56 PM (vsbNu)

104 I further pledge that I will crawl on my hands and knees to the polls in November 2016 and push all the "R" buttons

Posted by: Lemon Pledge Signer at September 02, 2015 06:56 PM (W5DcG)

105 So the people responsible for losing 5/6 of the last Presidential elections (popular vote) are still talking?

Posted by: Strumpet Laddy at September 02, 2015 06:57 PM (s0Kry)

106 99 hey moo, it's possible to be pissed at something someone DOES and still keep the jury out on what that person IS

but patience wears thin after a while

the truth eventually will out
Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (Uk9e2)

___________

Que?

Seriously, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:57 PM (0LHZx)

107 101 Have we gone full Godwin yet?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 02, 2015 06:55 PM (jR7Wy)

--I wish. I want to see a good banning.

Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 06:57 PM (vsbNu)

108 Also?

'Trump' rhymes with 'rump' !

tee hee

Posted by: Miss Lindsay at September 02, 2015 06:57 PM (e8ge6)

109 Trump could hire the Iranian negotiators to work out a deal with the gope.

Posted by: eman at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (mR7Es)

110 >>>I further pledge that I will crawl on my hands and knees to the polls in November 2016 and push all the "R" buttons


Posted by: Lemon Pledge Signer at September 02, 2015 06:56 PM (W5DcG)<<<



Nooooo. Nooooo. No lemon pledge.

Posted by: Consuela, from Family Guy at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (dplSG)

111 Cruz, by universal agreement, is a real Constitutional scholar. He voted for this bill because there was zero chance this was every going to be presented to the Senate as a treaty. Cruz is also a damn good politician and realized that the only chance this thing had to get any public review was the Corker/Mendez bill.

Which seems more likely, that Cruz and every other Republican Senator, even the conservative ones, turned into Iran nuke loving liberals or maybe they knew this deal was done at the UN?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 06:54 PM (OGm46)

Thank You!!! The process is flawed, and it makes it so easy for people to post one liners without any understanding of the thought process behind the vote.

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (KTiWT)

112 Loyalty?

What do the RINO Establishment know about loyalty?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (DUoqb)

113 Also, when you make an Amazon purchase, go through the linky on the HQ home page.
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 06:56 PM
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Yes, I do! Not always but I do often. Always a good reminder, that.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (7d8Ef)

114 Not Important: Stopping the Iran Nuke Deal
Important: Getting a Loyalty Pledge From Trump
========================

Yeah, that's important, but there are other things that are really important.

Posted by: Ex-Im Reauthorization at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (hxWs0)

115
The more I think about it, I want a loyalty oath from every candidate too. Mine would read of things conservative. Not one candidate would sign it of course.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (ODxAs)

116 105 So the people responsible for losing 5/6 of the last Presidential elections (popular vote) are still talking?
Posted by: Strumpet Laddy at September 02, 2015 06:57 PM (s0Kry)

____________

They're a lot like communists who say, sure communism has failed everywhere, but that's only because nobody's done it the right way.

Sure every RINO we nominate has lost, but just you wait until the right RINO comes along.....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 06:58 PM (0LHZx)

117 >>>> It's a trick question!
Most Republicans are Democrats

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and secretly pro-choice or don't give a damn about babies being cut up and sold for parts

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (2x3L+)

118 The Iran deal was a done deal as soon as the 52% of the fuckin idiots in this Country re-elected Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (DUoqb)

119 Does Kristol 'get it?'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

120
Plus, as a weird byproduct of Trump, the reactions of his detractors are Really Opening My Eyes.

Trump is only temporary, alas, but the rocks he has turned over for me to see will last a lifetime.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (iGCx2)

121 Did someone say lemon party?

Oh, my!

*fans self*

Posted by: Miss Lindsay at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (0cMkb)

122 101 Have we gone full Godwin yet?

*takes deep breath*

TRUMPISHITLERYOUBROWNSHIRTSWILLKILLUSALL!

*faints*

Posted by: Sip Nip - Perfectly Acceptable AOS commenter at September 02, 2015 07:00 PM (e8ge6)

123

Loyalty oaths are required by people who stab you in the back

Posted by: ThunderB at September 02, 2015 07:00 PM (zOTsN)

124
and secretly pro-choice or don't give a damn about babies being cut up and sold for parts

They don't care a wit.

Not even George W Bush, who was supposed to be some authentic Christian. But now he's retired and he's keeping mum out of respect for the Office. BULL SHIT.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:01 PM (iGCx2)

125 120
Plus, as a weird byproduct of Trump, the reactions of his detractors are Really Opening My Eyes.

Trump is only temporary, alas, but the rocks he has turned over for me to see will last a lifetime.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (iGCx2)

_____________

My eyes were opened in 2010 in Nevada and Delaware. And then just as I had forgot about it, along comes the MS Senate race to remind me.

Trump just confirmed it once again.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 07:01 PM (0LHZx)

126 The GOPe is so stupid. I mean, beyond stupid.


Trump is salivating at this. It destroys the best attack against Trump those idiots have.



Yuuuuuge.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:01 PM (S85kT)

127 A "Loyalty Oath".... Is that like when Yertle ran for re-election and promised to fight TFG at "every turn and on every bill".

That kind of loyalty?

Posted by: MTF at September 02, 2015 07:01 PM (hxWs0)

128 Did someone say lemon party?


Posted by: Miss Lindsay at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM

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And that, Morons, is how I learned to google with discretion.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 07:02 PM (7d8Ef)

129 As a loyal Republican, I resent Mr. Trump making a mockery of my party. I don't care for Mr. Kristol's sarcastic tone, either.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 02, 2015 07:02 PM (Ui7Rt)

130 Royalty Predge?

Posted by: Long Kim Jong at September 02, 2015 07:03 PM (ubWCN)

131 Most dangerous thing about Trump....he might actually do 50% of what he says he will do. That in and of itself makes lifetime lying politicians shit their pants.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 07:03 PM (0LHZx)

132 Trump ought to demand a "loyalty oath" of GOPe Congressional leaders in return, and ask Cruz to ghost-write it. That would be fun.

Posted by: MTF at September 02, 2015 07:03 PM (hxWs0)

133 Fine. Play their game. Take their little pledge and then constantly tell them to go get fucked. Like, daily.

What are they gonna do, withhold funding?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 02, 2015 07:03 PM (yMVjf)

134 >>Not Important: Stopping the Iran Nuke Deal
Important: Getting a Loyalty Pledge From Trump

They don't want a loyalty pledge from Trump, the want him to balk and take himself off the GOP primary ballots by refusing to sign.

Honestly, have they not seen how Trump responds to crap like that?

I suppose they think having him run as a 3rd party candidate will somehow neutralize him and pave the way for Jeb! --- but this instead will *guarantee* the Democrat, any freakin' Democrat candidate, will win.

This is so short-sighted I wonder if they want President Hillary.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 07:04 PM (NOIQH)

135
My eyes were opened in 2010 in Nevada and Delaware.

Yeah, right, keep fornicating with that chicken, bro.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:04 PM (iGCx2)

136 In Iowa's 3rd Congressional district in the 2014 primary, RINO David Young came in last... fifth place... with something like 2,000 votes to the first place Tea Party candidate's 20,000+.

But the Tea Party didn't get the magic 51% (came close). So what did the RINOs do? They held a closed door meeting, schemed and drove out the first place through fourth place candidates, and picked their guy.

Screw you f'ing RINOs and your loyalty oaths. You're dirty cheaters when you lose.

Posted by: Multitude at September 02, 2015 07:04 PM (c7WnJ)

137 "Cruz, by universal agreement, is a real Constitutional scholar."

Which is why he voted in favor of a rule change which is in contradiction to Article II?
Help me out here.

Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 07:05 PM (ETxiG)

138 Loyalty oaths? Loyal to what? For what? Trump will be loyal to Trump. Not anything wrong with that. Enlightened Self Interest and all that.

Whatever.

I for one look forward to the weiny roast over the burning embers of western civilization.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 02, 2015 07:05 PM (NGd+i)

139 Soothsayer,


This. Millions of times over. There are decent critiques of Trump. But you end up with a guy who was still to the right of Romney.



The hysterics and the debate really pulled the curtain back. Murdoch now pushing carson.

Interesting times indeed.


Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:05 PM (S85kT)

140 To the extent that I have participated in party politics, I have been a Republican my entire life. It feels so weird to be wishing destruction upon them but they need to go. The Party is unreformable.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:06 PM (rwI+c)

141 This is so short-sighted I wonder if they want President Hillary.

They do.

If they win power, they get 35% more graft, but they have responsibility for what happens.

They still get plenty of graft if the other party wins, but don't have to govern, so they're good either way.

What they really want to do, both parties, is make sure nothing threatens Bog Government.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 07:06 PM (oVJmc)

142 Reminder: These are the guys that delievered 197 year old Thad Cochran his seat, all thanks to a cynical campaign to bring in as many Democrat votes for government goodies as they could get. Somehow, this item needs to get worked into the conversation more, as they take on these tactics.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 07:06 PM (mhkbv)

143 >>>> Not even George W Bush, who was supposed to be some authentic Christian. But now he's retired and he's keeping mum out of respect for the Office. BULL SHIT.

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Idk if there's any truth to this, but Barbara Bush and Laura Bush seem to be pro-cut up babies. And, Jeb sat on the Bloomberg foundation and even received a salty to fund cutting up babies all over the world. So, yeah, they've been lying to us for years bc they have to pretend to be prolife bc they're stuck in conservative states.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:06 PM (2x3L+)

144 Here's my oath, GOP

I'm voting for Cruz or Trump. Depends on how much you piss me off between now and election day.

Posted by: Lauren at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (GZ6Pf)

145
Boner, I suspect, will send out Gowdy to bang on some trashcan lids for us savages. And then send out Issa to make whisper in our ears to calm us.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (iGCx2)

146 I just want to hurt them. I've given up caring about anything else. (Thanks to them -- they just don't want to implement their promises, or are simply incapable of it; either way, there's no political wish I have that they can satisfy.)


Man, I did not see THAT coming.

Posted by: Frankie Luntz at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (8ZskC)

147 >>>As a loyal Republican, I resent Mr. Trump making a mockery of my party. I don't care for Mr. Kristol's sarcastic tone, either.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 02, 2015 07:02 PM (Ui7Rt)<<<

Huzzah! Bad form, Mr. Trump. Bad form!

Posted by: Godfrey Oliver Pomeroy, esq. at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (dplSG)

148 Huck,


Yep. That fucking wall is getting built. That's enough for me.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (S85kT)

149 What they really want to do, both parties, is make sure nothing threatens Bog Government


rrAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!

Posted by: Swamp Thing 2016 ! at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (e8ge6)

150 Here's my oath, GOP

I'm voting for Cruz or Trump. Depends on how much you piss me off between now and election day.
Posted by: Lauren at September 02, 2015 07:07 PM (GZ6Pf)

me too Lauren, raises glass of wine.. cheers

Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (KTiWT)

151
oh yeah, that old witch Barbara Bush is pro-abortion, and so is Laura Bush

I can't stand the entire family.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (iGCx2)

152 * salary not salty

Sigh. I hate correcting typos

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (2x3L+)

153 But first, you will blow us.

Posted by: GOPe at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (0TXlm)

154 Make it an official ceremony at the next debate. Make everyone sign it, including the shit agreements SC and that other state want. Make them all do it. Make them all swear they'll support the elected nominee, whoever that may be.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (Fmupd)

155 I want Trump to go Independent, if they give us Jeb/Romney 2016.

Posted by: Paladin at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (4kpbt)

156 >>And that, Morons, is how I learned to google with discretion.


You are no fun.

Posted by: 2Girls, 1Cup at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (TzlU8)

157 120
Plus, as a weird byproduct of Trump, the reactions of his detractors are Really Opening My Eyes.

Trump is only temporary, alas, but the rocks he has turned over for me to see will last a lifetime.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 06:59 PM (iGCx2)


The best comment I've heard about Trump is "he pisses off all the right people": The GOPe, the left, and the MSM.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (sdi6R)

158 Ace -I just want to hurt them. I've given up caring about anything else. (Thanks to them -- they just don't want to implement their promises, or are simply incapable of it; either way, there's no political wish I have that they can satisfy.) "

AMEN!

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (teYv/)

159 I just want to know if Slow Joe sniffed Liz's hair.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (9mTYi)

160 Evening, y'all.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (q20+R)

161 If you want to watch a surprisingly relevant movie from 1941,

then watch "Meet John Doe" by Frank Capra.

I saw it last night on TCM and frankly was kind of shocked at how it lined up with today's politics,

though, yeah, admittedly it's corny and old.


But hey, it's got it all - wildcat populist, rich donors behind the scenes manipulating the process to get what they want, lousy economy (The Depression), the little guys looking to make a difference, looking to bring the country back to greatness.


And as the cherry on the top, which I didn't know until last night-

Frank Capra was a Conservative Republican (not an FDRtard)!

It's little wonder that his populism looks and sounds quite a bit like the populism of those fed up with today's Republican party.

Seriously....check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (0cMkb)

162 How DARE Trump not promise to not run third-party! Disgusting!

Posted by: Princess Lisa Murkowski at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (laMCB)

163 Ace, just the thought of those turds having to deal with Trump as president, makes me smile!

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at September 02, 2015 07:10 PM (teYv/)

164
Murdoch now pushing carson.

This is another thing. Murdoch and the RNC are using Dr. Carson to manipulate the base.

I hate these people. A lot.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:10 PM (iGCx2)

165 Well based on past experience the ones that should be signing the loyalty oaths are the GOPe. Previous experience says that if they don't get their candidate they will refuse to endorse the candidate, support the democrat instead, or run as a write-in candidate.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 07:10 PM (z/Ubi)

166 I know. I want them to disappear and go the way of that pervert molester, Hastert.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:10 PM (2x3L+)

167 Trump should challenge all other candidates to pledge to secure the border before trying to pass amnesty.

Posted by: Political Tips at September 02, 2015 07:10 PM (Ui7Rt)

168 Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 07:09 PM (0cMkb)

Need full disclosure, please. This is a repost.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (laMCB)

169 84 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 06:48 PM (27JXp)


Just curious.

Who's your guy?


Zombie Ronald Reagan told me he wasn't coming back.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 06:52 PM (0cMkb)


What good is having a guy at this point?

I'm supporting Trump on the outside chance he splits the party.

I like Ben Carson, but I doubt he'll get the nomination.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (27JXp)

170 Pappy, i think kristol is beginning to realize. Most have dramatically softened tone and cut out clown or buffoon attacks/language.


They know where this is going.


NRO better have its taxes in order tho. LOL


In fairness tho, jonah goldberg and lowry appear to be trying to calm down.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (S85kT)

171 This is another thing. Murdoch and the RNC are using Dr. Carson to manipulate the base.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle
___________________

^^^ This! ^^^

Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 07:12 PM (UlJ3l)

172 I pledge allegiance to the fags at the Republican National Committee, and to vestigial remnants of the party; one nation, under thumb- with liveries and extra ice for all.

Posted by: Dork Benedict at September 02, 2015 07:12 PM (bUmSq)

173 Did Cantor ever endorse Brat? Because if he didn't then I have an example for all three instances. Scozzaflava and murkowski are my other two.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 07:12 PM (z/Ubi)

174 Bog Government


Leave the Irish out of it.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 02, 2015 07:13 PM (NGd+i)

175 Why doesn't the party have loyalty pledges for all of the legislation that the GOPe can't get passed because of the majority Dems?

Yeah, blow me.

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 07:13 PM (3tjn4)

176 >>> This is another thing. Murdoch and the RNC are using Dr. Carson to manipulate the base.

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Yes. This seems to be true. They are panicked at a Trump nomination so they're pushing Carson believing he is naive, inexperienced in politics, and easy to push around and get their demands met now that horrible Jeb is tanking and Kasich is gaining no ground. Carson is their third choice out of pragmatism

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:14 PM (2x3L+)

177 I would be fine with a loyalty pledge that included, "even if it's Donald Trump."

Posted by: Boone at September 02, 2015 07:14 PM (NaOdu)

178 Trump:

" I pledge to be loyal to G-D, Country, and the American people.....and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:14 PM (DUoqb)

179
Remember that stupid NFL/celebrity tv spot No More?

If I had the $$, I produce a spoof of that ad about the GOP's betrayal. No More.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:14 PM (iGCx2)

180 Hey Trump! When the GOP says "sign this or we will keep you off our ballot" what they mean is "please humiliate me, I really like it!"

My own recommendation is that you draw out the process as long as possible, because it's really fun when the GOPe finally realizes they've painted themselves into a corner and now need to save face.

Posted by: TFG, Master of GOPe Politics at September 02, 2015 07:14 PM (hxWs0)

181


Murdoch now pushing carson.



This is another thing. Murdoch and the RNC are using Dr. Carson to manipulate the base.


Yes. I suspect they're pushing Carson to try to deflect from Trump because they think they can subvert or remove Carson more easily once Trump is defeated.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 07:15 PM (oVJmc)

182 >>Which is why he voted in favor of a rule change which is in contradiction to Article II?
Help me out here.

The assumption too many people keep making is that we are operating under the rules they think we should be operating under. The rule of law is crashing all around us at every level, from the federal government to a made up victim group advocating for and seemingly getting the assassination of cops. That's the world we live in.

In a broader sense this could easily be argued as not a treaty. And that was all Obama needed, an argument that it wasn't because all he cared about was time.

This was an international sanctions agreement. The power came from having all of the international community in agreement to enforce those sanctions as they had been for years. US sanctions alone would be harmful and awkward but they would not deter Iran from getting nukes which is what this is all about. It's not some random punishment, it is designed to prevent the leading sponsor of Islamic terrorism from getting nukes.

Obama was talking last year about going to the UN SC first to get this deal agreed to and that is exactly what he did. The only country in the world right now honoring the sanctions agreement is us. Period.

Don't mistake the Constitution for the political realities of the world we live in. Horse has left the barn.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 07:15 PM (OGm46)

183 Loyalty oaths were a big deal back in olden times. I guess this means we are regressing to an earlier time in human history, rather than progressing forward toward a glorious future, eh?

So the RNC really are neanderthals. Who knew?

Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 07:15 PM (CC8Go)

184
They're hyping Dr Carson just to siphon support from Trump, and when they're done with Carson they'll cast him out, too.

These people are lowest of the low.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:16 PM (iGCx2)

185 By the way in a similar vein:

Trump just told Jabbar to go fuck himself after Jabbar endorsed Sanders and took a shot at trump

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:16 PM (DUoqb)

186 Inside info:


NH woman talk show host said that word is out that chapo put a 100mm hit on Trump. She said security is very heavy and that staffers are genuinely concerned for their safety.


So a guy is self-funding, giving up tons of business and $$, and now has serious threats against himself and his family, and he's seeing it through.


It makes me want to knock the teeth out of anyone calling him a clown. Why i get passionate about it.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:16 PM (S85kT)

187 If Trump refuses to endorse the eventual Republican nominee, then he is just showing everyone that he only cares about his over-inflated ego, not about this great nation.

Posted by: Highly Esteemed Former Sen. Richard Lugar at September 02, 2015 07:16 PM (UlJ3l)

188 Horse has left the barn.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 07:15 PM (OGm46)

Ah don't worry, he just wandered over to the State Department

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:17 PM (DUoqb)

189 I like Ben Carson, but I doubt he'll get the nomination.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (27JXp)


Carson seems like too nice a guy. I fear he'd be eaten up by the D.C. crime syndicate.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:17 PM (laMCB)

190
Don't worry, trumpetdaddys, wherever you all are. You'll have your Republican party back when Trump is gone.

But I and millions of others will be gone, too. So enjoy your little political party.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:18 PM (iGCx2)

191 Highly Esteemed Former Sen. Richard Lugar

Talk about a turd!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 07:18 PM (W5DcG)

192 Total morbidity has now set in. Total. This party is over with. Finito.

Posted by: rrpjr at September 02, 2015 07:18 PM (s/yC1)

193 The RNC is making it easier and easier for me to support Trump

Posted by: Sho Nuff at September 02, 2015 07:18 PM (GyLbC)

194 Oh Lordy!
Watching the short pants brigade over at national rhino review lose their shit over trumpy is better than hookers 'n blow!

Posted by: Strumpet Laddy at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (DmRs2)

195
We're going to defund Obamacare by pulling it out by the roots!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (OiFtZ)

196 Not Important: Stopping the Iran Nuke Deal
Important: Getting a Loyalty Pledge From Trump


What the hell is wrong with these guys?

Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (9221z)

197
97
Now, I like him. A lot. I like Donald Trump more each time I hear him. He's charming and really funny. Who knew!
...........................
My mother, a two-time B.O. voter and lifelong registered Dem, loves her some Trump. She really gets a kick out of watching him and calls me every time she sees him on TV. Plus... double bonus... she hates Hillary.
In CA no less!

Posted by: wth at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (wAQA5)

198 >>>>> I like Ben Carson, but I doubt he'll get the nomination.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (27JXp)

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Why do you like Ben Carson. I'm asking out of curiosity. This is not an attack so I don't get banned. I'm politely inquiring bc imho he'll get eaten alive and get the Sarah treatment. He's obviously an accomplished man and good man, but I don't think he is tough enough to handle the media and the GOPe

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (2x3L+)

199
Rigor.

Hey GOP, Rigor Mortis just called...

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:20 PM (iGCx2)

200 Carson seems like too nice a guy. I fear he'd be eaten up by the D.C. crime syndicate.

A shame. I think he's the smartest one.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:20 PM (27JXp)

201 Hmmm...Maybe they should have gotten a loyalty oath from Arlen Specter promising not to turn Democrat should the GOP lose the Senate majority.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 07:20 PM (NOIQH)

202
I just love sticking it McConnell's ass, and fortunately, the pussy seems to like it!

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 02, 2015 07:20 PM (OiFtZ)

203
He's obviously an accomplished man and good man, but I don't think he is tough enough to handle the media and the GOPe

I concur. Good man. But he's a lousy candidate, and has no business in politics.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:21 PM (iGCx2)

204 Because the RNC has never broken any promises so they can demmand them from others.

Be loyal to US! When we do our best to underhandedly undermine you!

So that when the results are

40% Trump
25% Cruz
20% Carson
15% Fiorina
0% Bush

And the RNC nominates Jeb!....No backsies.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 07:21 PM (0q2P7)

205 Carson has a hard ceiling that won't play outside iowa. But they can only hope for this. Let them hope for this tho.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:21 PM (S85kT)

206 Trump has my vote if he'll build a casino in the South China Sea.

It'll be yu-u-uge! Tremendous!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 02, 2015 07:21 PM (jR7Wy)

207 Need full disclosure, please. This is a repost.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (laMCB)



Huh?


It's not a repost, but an amazing facsimile thereof.

I had the same thoughts last night as I was watching "Meet John Doe" so I posted in some thread. ONT?

Then I thought some morons who missed my glorious and wise insights might like to see "Meet John Doe".

So I posted the same thoughts in a similar fashion.

And ze treek she is done!


Is that the kind of disclosure you wanted?


Sorry I'm neither part of THE GREAT CAPRA CONSPIRACY OF 2015

nor Frank Capra the 10th.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (0cMkb)

208 "Horse has left the barn. "

Then they are in violation of their oaths to uphold and defend, etc, etc. All of them.
Social contract violation.
I owe them nothing but scorn.
Damn, this is a sad day.

Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (ETxiG)

209 re: voting for Cruz or Trump: if I am not given that opportunity, I will vote for the dem, and I will take it all the way down the ticket, unless there is someone really special on it. Waiting to see who shows for the R primaries locally.

Posted by: simon jester at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (tFyfM)

210 well said prescient, didnt know about the hit

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (VuDcL)

211 Yeah, me too. I fell a bit sorry for coming here with AdblockPlus always on but, for Pete's sake, the whole damn internet just works when I use it. All that shit my pc doesn't have to download. There's always the tip jar. It's been years now but I'll wait 'till I'm re-mployed before hitting it again.
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 06:53 PM (7d8Ef)


Now I feel bad, too.....

I hit the jar last month; I'll do it again this month... I know $10 a shot don't mean a lot, but it does take the edge off the guilt... in fact, I'll make it $15 so you don't have to feel even a bit sorry!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (xOu6p)

212
I like Ben Carson, but I doubt he'll get the nomination.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:11 PM (27JXp)

Carson seems like too nice a guy. I fear he'd be eaten up by the D.C. crime syndicate.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:17 PM (laMCB)
.........................................
Hopefully he will perform a radical emergency lobotomy on them.

Posted by: wth at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (wAQA5)

213 On the bright side, since the RINO establishment is not so bright: Everything they do to try and stop and discredit Trump backfires like me after mexican or indian food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM (DUoqb)

214 Pics of Obama in Dillingham, putting on rubber gloves to handle a salmon. Pantywaist strikes again. I've caught plenty of salmon in my time, and I never, even once, wore gloves while cleaning and filleting them.

You'd think slime like Obama wouldn't mind a bit more from a fish, but there ya go.

http://tinyurl.com/obqgkb5

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (+YMhA)

215
A loyalty oath.

h'oh boy, that.is.rich.

The balls...

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (iGCx2)

216 NH woman talk show host said that word is out that chapo put a 100mm hit on Trump. She said security is very heavy and that staffers are genuinely concerned for their safety.

I suspect that El Gobernador Yebbie doesn't get threatened by many Mexican drug lords.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (8ZskC)

217 Why do you like Ben Carson. I'm asking out of curiosity. This is not an attack so I don't get banned. I'm politely inquiring bc imho he'll get eaten alive and get the Sarah treatment. He's obviously an accomplished man and good man, but I don't think he is tough enough to handle the media and the GOPe
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:19 PM (2x3L+)


I'm so offended

It's probably true. Ben Carson would be a good candidate for 2008. But things have gone too far.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (27JXp)

218
I concur. Good man. But he's a lousy candidate, and has no business in politics.


This.

Nice fellow, out of his field, strikes me as kind of aspie, but will be like a baby chick in a cattle stampede.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (oVJmc)

219
If Trump can build a bridge between LA and Honolulu, I will vote for him and encourage my friends to do the same.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, D-GA at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (OiFtZ)

220 I've been out of the loop bc I adopted an 8 week old baby girl last month and haven't been able to read the blog comments much.

Who is Jabbar in this equation?

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (2x3L+)

221

GOP FAILboat!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:24 PM (iGCx2)

222 A hundred million pesos is what? $1.69?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:24 PM (rwI+c)

223
I'm still waiting for the smart ass Donald Trump to disprove my theory that fire can't melt steel.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, D-GA at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (OiFtZ)

224
wow, really, L?

I've been wondering you disappeared to.
A brand new baby!
What's the warranty like?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (iGCx2)

225 I "suspect" Ben Carson is tougher than most of your assume. You do not get to be where he was by being a push over and very very smart

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (DUoqb)

226 Now I feel bad, too.....



I hit the jar last month; I'll do it again this month... I know $10 a
shot don't mean a lot, but it does take the edge off the guilt... in
fact, I'll make it $15 so you don't have to feel even a bit sorry!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at September 02, 2015 07:22 PM

------------

Ha! Thanks, you're a mensch!

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (7d8Ef)

227 220: Kareem the Abdul.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (ucDmr)

228
ex-basketball great Kareem Abdul Jabbar, I thinks

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (iGCx2)

229
I'm still waiting for Donald Trump to disprove my theory that fire can't melt steel.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (OiFtZ)

230 Gosh, I wish TFG would just get outta here. I noticed the snipers on the roof of the Captain Cook Hotel today, and TFG was already in Dillingham, headed for Kotzebue. So, who were they planning on shooting and why?

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (+YMhA)

231 Jabbar the muslim wife beater

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (DUoqb)

232 Speaking of SMOD, yesterday and today are the 156th anniversary of the Carrington Event, a Coronal Mass Ejection (hehehehe) that impacted the Erf with massive solar storms. These solar storms caused telegraph lines to catch fire and be able to run with the power disconnected; it also produced aurora borealis seen as far south as Cuba.


Imagine what that would to today's technology....

Posted by: Country Singer at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (nL0sw)

233 After Carson continues to poll well as a Not Trump and the field gets winnowed down a bit, expect a "neutral debate moderator" to try to slash Dr. Carson to ribbons.

And then regardless of how Carson reacts, expect all the post-debate commentary to say that Carson showed that he's not ready for prime time and that a polished politician is the only hope the GOP has--the world's problems are just too big for an inexperienced outsider.

Posted by: Furious George, adjusting his tinfoil hat at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (UlJ3l)

234 You'd think slime like Obama wouldn't mind a bit more from a fish, but there ya go.

http://tinyurl.com/obqgkb5

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (+YMhA)


Maybe it was the salmon that insisted?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (aRgrb)

235
I will be the nominee!

Posted by: Sir Milhaus Rodham at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (OiFtZ)

236 >>>I just want to hurt them. I've given up caring about anything else.

Here, here. People who try to smack down Trump on a policy basis are completely missing the point. I'm half-way to supporting him just as a way of punishing the Donor Class.

If I have to eat a shit sandwich, EVERYBODY'S gonna eat a shit sandwich.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (R1mDg)

237 225 I "suspect" Ben Carson is tougher than most of your assume. You do not get to be where he was by being a push over and very very smart


I agree with this too. Actually I'm pretty wishy-washy on him.

He needs to do something impressive (in the campaign, I mean.)

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (27JXp)

238 Where is OUR loyalty oath for having delivered that landslide election? Heh.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (teYv/)

239 I think Carson is pulling heavily the evangelical vote which is surprising bc Cruz just had a conference call with like 1000 church pastors and ministers. He's getting the vote of good people who just want to see a good man, not a politician, in office.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:28 PM (2x3L+)

240 Maybe it was the salmon that insisted?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2015 07:27 PM (aRgrb)

I will admit that I hadn't thought about it that way. Generally once they are in the air, all bets are off.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 07:28 PM (+YMhA)

241 Which seems more likely, that Cruz and every other Republican Senator, even the conservative ones, turned into Iran nuke loving liberals or maybe they knew this deal was done at the UN?


I'm not sure I understand this defense. The Republicans have achieved nothing on the issue, except that they have all, save one, rolled in it like a dog in dead cat perfume.


Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:29 PM (rwI+c)

242 Ha! Thanks, you're a mensch!
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 07:25 PM (7d8Ef)


Heh! No problem!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at September 02, 2015 07:29 PM (xOu6p)

243 prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:16 PM (S85kT)

I admire Trump for his skill at garnering support and for sticking it to the GOP. And now, it seems, at some personal risk. He is definitely addressing the concerns of a lot of people.

But, prescient, even you have to admit that the candidate has been, shall we say, less than consistent on his political positions. Plus, he is needlessly insulting (e.g. Megyn Kelly is a "bimbo).

Any other candidate--such as, say, a Romney or a Christy, would be crucified by the base for flip-flopping on lesser matters, or for such willful crudeness as Trump seems to get away with.

Trump supporters appear to be very forgiving--is it wealth-envy?

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:29 PM (laMCB)

244 Is there any place better than here to craft a meaningful loyalty oath? Most here share a shirt load of commonality, and most are much more astute that I. Why does it all seem so simple and logical from our (my?) vantage point?

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:29 PM (QM0v/)

245 Heh. Bill Kristol. The voice of reason from the Right.

Call me in June of '16.

Posted by: Golfman at September 02, 2015 07:29 PM (48QDY)

246
NH woman talk show host said that word is out that chapo put a 100mm hit on Trump. She said security is very heavy and that staffers are genuinely concerned for their safety.

I suspect that El Gobernador Yebbie doesn't get threatened by many Mexican drug lords.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (8ZskC)
...........................
Senor Shorty is a very good houseguest for us. No trouble at all. We tell him stay as long as you like.

Posted by: Columba Bush at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (wAQA5)

247 Either trump or cruz or i write in reagan.


And folks, i was negatively disposed towards trump less than six months ago.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (S85kT)

248 I don't blame them for being somewhat nervous and fearing Trump will go 3rd party on them, but a loyalty pledge wouldn't change that. He could simply say "yes, I vowed to but that was before..."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (39g3+)

249
Did you hear this yet?

File it under: Moar Bullshit

You know how used cars are now "pre-owned?"

Well, now used cars are called 'pre-enjoyed.'

L's slightly used baby just reminded me of that.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (iGCx2)

250
Well, I think Trump is a clown and a buffoon. And every presidential candidate has to worry about security.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (ODxAs)

251 Save us Ronald Raven.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (rwI+c)

252 The best comment I've heard about Trump is "he pisses off all the right people": The GOPe, the left, and the MSM.
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 07:08 PM (sdi6R)

Something about flak...

Posted by: Golfman at September 02, 2015 07:30 PM (48QDY)

253 Loyalty to the country that is. Yep I'm buzzed and furious

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:31 PM (QM0v/)

254 Carson doesn't have the skill set to be president. He's too innocent, too honest, and would be the mark at the poker table.

Politics is a back alley gutter sport hiding behind a glib fashionable false front. (at least as it is being played currently. Maybe it has always been that way.)

Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 07:31 PM (CC8Go)

255 the GOPe can demand and/or do whatever they want, but if their 2016 choice is a squish, i'm neither voting for or supporting them in anyway.

F them, sideways, with a tankers bar wrapped up in concertina wire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 07:31 PM (7vjeC)

256 "I'm half-way to supporting him just as a way of punishing the Donor Class."

I may well end up voting for Trump and then in every downticket race writing in the name of that excellent individual and exemplar of the civic virtues, Becausefuckyou Thatswhy.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:31 PM (noWW6)

257 Which seems more likely, that Cruz and every other Republican Senator, even the conservative ones, turned into Iran nuke loving liberals or maybe they knew this deal was done at the UN?

They all voted for Mitch McConnell as senate majority leader. None of them are trustworthy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:32 PM (27JXp)

258 Geeshers, I'm more out of the loop than I thought. I have no idea who Jabbar the Muslim wife beater is.

Oh, I get it now. Went back and read upstream on comments.

Really? Kareem? I'm saddened. I loved him with the Lakers. He seemed like such a disciplined athlete and gentleman. I liked Pat Riley more so screw Jabbar. He's dead to me

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:32 PM (2x3L+)

259 I'm still negatively disposed toward Trump, but hey, not like the right guy in office is gonna turn this country around. Why not someone amusing and slightly deranged?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:32 PM (39g3+)

260 and Carson would be a disaster in the Oval Office.

Surgeon General, maybe, but he should never be POTUS.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (7vjeC)

261
Trump's positions on issues are secondary to me.
Trump's hatchet job on politicians and the media is what I like.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (iGCx2)

262 "Plus, he is needlessly insulting (e.g. Megyn Kelly is a 'bimbo')."

Uh, Megyn Kelly IS a bimbo.

So are the vast majority of the on-air talent at Fox. Male and female alike.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (noWW6)

263 Carson doesn't have the skill set to be president. He's too innocent, too honest, and would be the mark at the poker table.

Politics is a back alley gutter sport hiding behind a glib fashionable false front. (at least as it is being played currently. Maybe it has always been that way.)
Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 07:31 PM (CC8Go)

Ever see the politics involved in a Major Hospital with all the egos involved? And Carson rose to the very top of his profession and was head of his Department at John Hopkins? Innocent? A Mark? I think not. And I am not a Carson supporter, but knowing where he has come from...I assume he is as strong as steel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (DUoqb)

264
Rinse Penis and The Donald meet tomorrow afternoon in New York. Donald should leave his wallet and keys in the apartment.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (OiFtZ)

265 >>>If I have to eat a shit sandwich, EVERYBODY'S gonna eat a shit sandwich.

And that's really the rub isn't it. What makes Trump nigh irresistable. The RNC has been kicking us in the balls for years now. This is a chance to kick them back. If you ascribe to LIB, then Trump will make things entertaining. He'll make it epic. Part of me really really wants to say, "Let's do this" and take that shot at the balls of the RNC. Every dishonest gyration that they try to get rid of Trump rather than address what he represents makes me want to do it more. This is how I feel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztB_q1YgcsY

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 07:34 PM (0q2P7)

266
Trump is like a buzzsaw.



I dig that. A lot.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:34 PM (iGCx2)

267 They want loyalty? How about loyalty to the people who put them into office and not to surrender faster than the French at the first whiff a German? They got both houses of Congress and there's not a bit of difference if it was all Democrats

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2015 07:34 PM (DiZBp)

268 Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (noWW6)

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman at September 02, 2015 07:34 PM (48QDY)

269 FNC reporting that Trump will meet with Rinse Penis tomorrow.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 07:34 PM (Fmupd)

270 Loyalty is a 2 way street

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (DUoqb)

271 You all misheard them. They are demanding a royalty oath.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (mvenn)

272 Really? Kareem? I'm saddened. I loved him with
the Lakers. He seemed like such a disciplined athlete and gentleman.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:32 PM

--------

...and a fine pilot.

Posted by: Capt. Oveur at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (7d8Ef)

273 Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (DUoqb)

Thank you for that. I will keep it in mind.

Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (CC8Go)

274 Yes, Sooth, she's so pretty and she's been sick so I've had my hands full. I'll post a pick on the yahoo group soon. You have to see her. She's magnificent. She's also a Great Dane puppy baby girl. I've always since forever and ever wanted a Scooby-Doo. She's a Scobette-Doo, but it's been a dream come true for me

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (2x3L+)

275
Every donation ever made to the GOP never comes with a reach around. They've screwed us long enough, and payback is going to be a bitch.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (OiFtZ)

276 Really? Kareem? I'm saddened. I loved him with
the Lakers. He seemed like such a disciplined athlete and gentleman.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:32 PM


Yeah for a wife beater I guess

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:36 PM (DUoqb)

277
34 votes.

Wow. I am..I dunno.

The Corker Rule must be written in stone. Right?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:36 PM (iGCx2)

278 Well what do you know. Apparently, the GOP really is as fucking stupid as I had feared.

Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2015 07:36 PM (e3bId)

279 Hurricane,


Oh, i know. On immigration he's been damn consistent. In both 2000 and 2011 books he wrote.


In 1988 he wasked by larry king whether he was a rockefeller brand type of republican.


He thought about it and said, I'm of the party that's for the guy driving the taxi, the guy who's selling hot dogs.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:37 PM (S85kT)

280 You know what the best thing about a loyalty oath is? You can violate it at a later date and nothing.fucking.happens. Bwahahaha!

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 07:37 PM (3tjn4)

281 260 and Carson would be a disaster in the Oval Office.

Surgeon General, maybe, but he should never be POTUS.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (7vjeC)


'Disaster' I would reserve for a guy like Jeb, Rubio, Christie.

In fact, I think Carson would be better than all of them.

For all the talk of how the Washington machine would tear him up, he is kicking their asses right now.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 07:37 PM (27JXp)

282 Carson doesn't have the skill set to be president. He's too innocent, too honest, and would be the mark at the poker table.

Yeah I think he could do the job but he's too good a man for it

...and a fine pilot.

Yeah but my dad says he's lazy

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:38 PM (39g3+)

283 In any debate Carson get's into with the RINOs in the debates when they state their opinions on any subject they are endorsing, all he has to do is turn to them and ask: " And how's that working out"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:39 PM (DUoqb)

284 As I've posted before.

Trump doesn't know all things. He does, however, know how to put the right person in the right job. He doesn't know how to run a hotel or a golf course. But he knows what he likes and what succeeds. .

Is there a better description of a chief executive?

Posted by: Golfman at September 02, 2015 07:39 PM (48QDY)

285
Concur - pediatric neurosurgery is indeed a lazy discipline. Except for the part where you collect the check.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (OiFtZ)

286 The mohamadans are allowed, even encouraged to beat their wives. The wives should be more appreciative. Hell, mohamadans actually KILL other people they are not married to. Bunch of evil devil worshiping bastards. Of course, kareem, like ali, are not real mohamadans. Neither is farakan. They are the laughingstock of the real mohamadan world and no more than tools.

Posted by: Eromero at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (go5uR)

287 You know what the best thing about a loyalty oath is? You can violate it at a later date and nothing.fucking.happens. Bwahahaha!
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 07:37 PM (3tjn4)


-------------------------------------------


Especially when the people you've signed the oath with aren't even thinking about being loyal to the signee. Yup. If I was Trump, I'd sign it and then do what I wanted to do anyway.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (Fmupd)

288 I would be remiss in my duties as-

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Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (0cMkb)

289 I'm not saddened anymore, NGU, now that I understand the situation. Muslims have wife beating in their blood it seems BC this is apparently a holy act for them along with raping and earn them their 72 virgins. I hate Kareem now. I still love Pat Riley.

Please nobody tell me Pat Riley is a wife beater or Muslim. I can't take much more disappointment today

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (2x3L+)

290
Rinse Penis and The Donald meet tomorrow afternoon in New York. Donald should leave his wallet and keys in the apartment.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (OiFtZ)
..............................
Loyalty oath? No. Money? No.
You're fired.

Posted by: Donald's Ear Trumpet at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (wAQA5)

291
Trump would be a better president than...?

Both Bushes. Clinton.
McCain, if he won.
Romney, maybe, if he won.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:41 PM (iGCx2)

292 62 Trump's response should be...

This is the USA, not a banana republic. I will not make any loyalty oaths other than the oath I take on Jan 20, 2017.

-----

Have to agree.

Posted by: Seems legit at September 02, 2015 07:42 PM (Wpowu)

293 Trump would be a better president than...?

Both Bushes. Clinton.
McCain, if he won.
Romney, maybe, if he won.



Who the hell knows? He may completely suck at the job.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:42 PM (rwI+c)

294 Carson is smart enough to know the skills he does not possess.

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:43 PM (QM0v/)

295 Concur - pediatric neurosurgery is indeed a lazy discipline. Except for the part where you collect the check.


Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 02, 2015 07:40 PM (OiFtZ)


Unlike the years of education and hard work it takes to be a community organizer. Now that's not a job a lazy, stupid, ignorant, good for nothing POS could fill easily.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2015 07:43 PM (DiZBp)

296 Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:35 PM (2x3L+) <<<<<<<<

We adopted a 6 year old dog in March. He takes commands as suggestions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:44 PM (ODxAs)

297 Carson is smart enough to know the skills he does not possess.
Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:43 PM (QM0v/)


---------------------------------------


So he should drop out?

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 07:45 PM (Fmupd)

298 Trump? Disappointing crease in his pants. Not good at all.

Posted by: David Brooks at September 02, 2015 07:45 PM (UlJ3l)

299
He may completely suck at the job.

And still be better than both Bushes, Clinton, etc. Hence my point.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:45 PM (iGCx2)

300 He doesn't know how to run a hotel or a golf course. But he knows what he likes and what succeeds.

I agree with this, totally. He's very good at management and finding talent. I think Fiorina is the same way. What we've been lacking for the whole Obama administration is a capable executive.

There is a theory that each presidential change over is basically a swing away from the bad parts and weaknesses of the previous president; we had a creepy guy in Nixon then a guy people thought was nice in Carter, then a Guy who was capable in Reagan; Clinton was scum, Bush was decent but couldn't talk, Obama is charming and well spoken but incompetent, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:45 PM (39g3+)

301 Gotta run,


But parting thought, the media has so viciously attacked the guy that, in his mind, he now has to win the whole thing.


Unintended consequences, eh?

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (S85kT)

302 >>I'm not sure I understand this defense. The Republicans have achieved nothing on the issue, except that they have all, save one, rolled in it like a dog in dead cat perfume.

It's not a defense, its a question. Do you honestly believe that Ted Cruz decided to go all YOLO and just agree to something that is completely anathema to every thing he claims to stand for or do you think that maybe a lot of conservative blogs are missing the point?

The evidence is right in front of you. Since this deal was agreed to at the UN, which was long before this deal was submitted to the Senate, China, Russia, the EU and basically every country not named the US has been treating Iran like a Persian bazar. They no longer honor the sanctions agreement they had been enforcing save for some material in some cases.

That was the entire point of the sanctions agreement, international sanctions. Keep Iran in punishment mode until they agreed to stop going after nukes. The internationals sanctions ended with the UN vote. The only question now was what would the US do, have their own largely useless sanctions or fold.

And whether it is popular here or not to say Obama was never going to present this to the Senate as a treaty. Worst case, he would have let it go the courts to decide and that decision would have come down some time after he was gone from office.

The Corker/Menendez bill was a Hail Mary to try and force some public review of this shit sandwich in hopes that public pressure would force Obama to at least keep the US out but it was pretty much never going to work. But as far as keeping Iran from getting nukes, doesn't matter. It was never us that was going to give them the technology anyway.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (OGm46)

303
I'm not sure what Donald Trump stands for?

Posted by: Charlie Rose and Tom Brokow at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (OiFtZ)

304 Please nobody tell me Pat Riley is a wife beater or Muslim.

No, just overrated as a coach and mostly a personality manager.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (39g3+)

305 So will there be the concomitant pledge by the GOP Establishment and its cheerleaders that they will support, vote for, contribute to and volunteer for Trump when he wins the nomination?

Because, as I've been told, anyone who gets the votes in the primaries must be supported in the general.

Electability, don't you know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (IrByp)

306 If a loyalty oath is anything like a non-binding resolution, then let your freak-flag fly, baby!

Harry Reid: I pooped my pants.

Mitch McConnell: Mmmm, i-yup.

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (3tjn4)

307 And still be better than both Bushes, Clinton, etc. Hence my point.


And still completely speculative on your part. He may well be our own 'Little Boots'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (rwI+c)

308 300,

I beg to differ.

The JEF's teleprompter is well-spoken.

The JEF, not so much (Corpsemen?)

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (zyIlW)

309 Soona, you are a true logician

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (y0dP9)

310 Islamic State militants in Iraq who claim to belong to one of the groups elite fighting units released a video in which they train with matching American-manufactured M16 rifles.

The rifles shown in the video appear to be the A2 variant of the M16 rather than the improved A4 version now used by many U.S. troops, said Sim Tack, a military analyst who studies global conflicts, including those in Iraq and Syria, for the geopolitical intelligence firm Stratfor.

The rifles also feature iron sights and lack the advanced optics most modern forces use.

Navy Cmdr. Elissa Smith, a Defense Department spokeswoman, said Pentagon officials could not confirm the authenticity of the images. The U.S. is working with Iraqi troops and moderate Syrian opposition forces to prevent the group from gaining access to American-made weapons in the future, she said.

You want to prevent them from getting US Weapons? Then STOP giving them the useless Iraqis and Syrians you assholes. Do what we used to do, give them old Soviet equipment that we got from the Israelis....oh yeah we are not that close with them under Fredo...I forgot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (DUoqb)

311 "Once again we have a party which will not resort to extraordinary
measures to fulfill any of their policy promises to voters resorting to
extraordinary measures to save themselves and their dear, dear Donor
Class."

Why, it's enough to make on think that the GOP's claim that most of their funding comes from people donating $100 or less is complete, utter, and total bullshit - just like everything else about them.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (RrOb6)

312
My guess is a Prez Trump would do none of the things he is saying. He will continue the big spending, more entitlements, more regulations and no wall or immigration stops. There will be much gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (ODxAs)

313 Btw, the pledge that trump makes is going to be gravy for him.



Think about it folks, it's the stupid party.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:48 PM (S85kT)

314 Whatever Trump's original ideas or motivation were with that alleged call from Bill Clinton... I think he's in it to win it now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:48 PM (39g3+)

315 Actually, hospital politics ain't beanbag. But it's not D.C., either.

In medicine they put a premium on competence. You can get away with a lot if you're a superstar.

In Washington these days, it's all optics and the press releases, not actually solving any problems or administering government competently.

Exhibit A: The Iran Deal

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:48 PM (laMCB)

316 Man, I just saw a horrible video. I read something about how Los Zetas were doing p.r. in Mexico, i.e., giving out free shit to the poor. I went to find more about them. I know they are violent and leave heads all over the place. But I find a video where about 15 of them have 4 women with hand tied. These are not young women. All but one has their breasts exposed. The oldest one they keep hitting with the butt of a gun. They then cut their throats or take an axe to their heads. They then use the axe and machete to chop them up in pieces while they laugh hysterically. This is insane. With ISIS, the regular deranged muzzies, and these devils, what the hell is happening in the world????

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 07:48 PM (iQIUe)

317
Trump would be a disastrous president.

Posted by: Senator John McCain at September 02, 2015 07:49 PM (OiFtZ)

318 FUCK THE GOPe!!!!

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 07:49 PM (f+6Pd)

319 Obama is charming and well spoken but incompetent, etc.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:45 PM (39g3+)


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You're kidding, right? I've never seen a colder disposition in a Prez than Baraka. And he's not well-spoken. His teleprompter is well read. Get him off the teleprompter and he sounds like he forgot where the short bus was parked.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (Fmupd)

320 This is insane. With ISIS, the regular deranged muzzies, and these devils, what the hell is happening in the world????
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

#SmertDiplomacy Yo!

Posted by: Queen Barry I at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (awspb)

321 We write our Clintoon loyalty oaths in blood.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (Dwehj)

322 The Coast Guard is seriously eyeing expanding its maternity leave

Yeah fuck those new Ice Breakers and the Soviets invading the North Pole....I mean let's concentrate on maternity leave and transexuals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (DUoqb)

323 >>>> No, just overrated as a coach and mostly a personality manager.Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (39g3+)

This may be possibly true. I will entertain the idea but he was so handsome and sharp dressed. Please don't tell me he's dead like Buzzion

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (2x3L+)

324 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Harry Reid, Accused Pederast at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (f+6Pd)

325 "He's very good at management and finding talent. I think Fiorina is the same way."

God no.

Fiorina's tenure at HP was a trainwreck.

Admittedly, HP was a trainwreck in the making by the time she arrived, but she sure as shooting didn't fix anything. She made it worse with the Compaq merger.

Fiorina should instead be studied as an example of someone who has studied -- to wit, having studied how to handle interviews with scalpel precision. That alone won't suffice. But perhaps other candidates with more electable prospects could benefit by watching her game films.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (noWW6)

326 To GOPe: I've altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it further.

Posted by: Darth Trump at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (JO9+V)

327 My guess is a Prez Trump would do none of the things he is saying. He will continue the big spending, more entitlements, more regulations and no wall or immigration stops. There will be much gnashing of teeth.

If he proves to be no different than Democratic or Republican sellouts on immigration, then people will be convinced that the political process is corrupt and will not address their issues.

There may be more than gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 07:51 PM (0NdlF)

328 You're kidding, right? I've never seen a colder disposition in a Prez than Baraka.

Oh yeah he's revealed himself to be a fumbling lizard when it comes to his real persona, but in 2008 when people were voting for him the first time, that was the basic perception. Charming, well spoken, godlike speaker, voice of honey and gold. Women fainting at speeches.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:51 PM (39g3+)

329 >>>>Any other candidate--such as, say, a Romney or a Christy, would be crucified by the base for flip-flopping on lesser matters, or for such willful crudeness as Trump seems to get away with.

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And were Trump to have held the same positions and done flip-flops and been a beltway insider instead the same people with the longknives out for him now would all be telling us to sit down and shut up and just accept that he will be the nominee.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 07:52 PM (z/Ubi)

330
Strikes me as a good dose of Karma that the GOPe was so delicate and fragile that one guy who speaks his mind can contribute so much to their own self-destruction.

That says a whole lot more about how shallow the Republican Party is than any strength from Trump.

Long live Tom "I have a spine" Cotton.

Posted by: GBruno at September 02, 2015 07:52 PM (u49WF)

331 Yeah fuck those new Ice Breakers and the Soviets invading the North Pole....I mean let's concentrate on maternity leave and transexuals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:50 PM (DUoqb)


Women are equal to men. Let's pay them to not work!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 07:52 PM (0NdlF)

332 He's been talking about that wall since 2011.


He wrote it in his book.


It's getting built.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:52 PM (S85kT)

333 The question, of course, is which one of the candidates would actually make a good President. Don't have a clear view of that yet. And then there's the question of who could get elected. Democracy can be very depressing.

Posted by: Caliban at September 02, 2015 07:53 PM (3GFMN)

334
I don't know how you watch that stuff Bruce. I don't want it floating around in my head.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:53 PM (ODxAs)

335 I say Trump does just what the GOPe did. Say he will not run third party AND then run third party.

FUCK THE GOPe!!!!

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 07:54 PM (f+6Pd)

336 If Trump starts renaming mountains, you can bet he'll name them for himself and install a classy casino a the same time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 07:54 PM (8ZskC)

337 God no.

Fiorina's tenure at HP was a trainwreck.


People act like her entire career was 5 years a HP trying to dig out of the Dot Com collapse. She had 19 years of previous executive experience and did very, very well in all of it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:54 PM (39g3+)

338 #GOPhuckYourself....seriously? a loyalty pledge? fuck that ....we gave you the fucking numbers.......you can't defund planned parenthood you can't stop the iran deal.....you vote for the trade bill.....you do nothing about obamacare.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 02, 2015 07:54 PM (0O7c5)

339 It's getting built.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:52 PM (S85kT)
he better paint it gold

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 02, 2015 07:55 PM (0O7c5)

340 Imagine what that would to today's technology....

Posted by: Country Singer at September 02, 2015 07:26 PM (nL0sw)

----------
Heh. You want to talk about a disturbance in the Force? Wait until all those millennials can't text, or post to Facebook or Instagram. There would be a great gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes. They would all sit in the nearest corner and quiver.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 02, 2015 07:55 PM (9iR5/)

341 The so-called republican party should be burned to ashes at the molecular level. Insider shit and RINOS must be exterminated. In any way you'd care to categorize



Posted by: KenH at September 02, 2015 07:55 PM (67f1X)

342 Guy Mohawk, did you adopt a Great Dane? They are a special breed with all kinds of issues because their bodies grow too fast. Everyone compares them to horses. She's a money pit for sure. I've racked up 4K with her cost from the breeder and her trainer, and now vet bills, but I love her so much. Adopting her was the best decision I've made in a long time.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 07:55 PM (2x3L+)

343 Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 07:37 PM (S85kT)

On abortion and health care, not so consistent. On foreign policy, he has no experience and speaks in generalities (China is eating our lunch). Everything's going to be terrific, the best. But never even the most rudimentary details.

Does he even know the purpose of the federal government in the American system? (Hint: it's not to "run things," it's to defend liberty).

"Make America Great Again" is a fine slogan, but he seems not to have the slightest understanding what made America great in the past.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (laMCB)

344 Yeah fuck those new Ice Breakers and the Soviets invading the North Pole....I mean let's concentrate on maternity leave and transexuals

And climate change, and don't forget renaming mountains!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (39g3+)

345 didn't get a chance to read all 330 plus comments but how many in the GOPe will sign the same pledge regarding Trump if he wins the nomination?

It begs the question.

Posted by: Dave C at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (JLnbb)

346 Soviets invading the North Pole...

What ??

Posted by: Santa at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (W5DcG)

347 "Man, I just saw a horrible video. I read something about how Los Zetas
were doing p.r. in Mexico, i.e., giving out free shit to the poor. I
went to find more about them. I know they are violent and leave heads
all over the place. But I find a video where about 15 of them have 4
women with hand tied."

Just a reminder: before Bill Clinton, the Zetas cartel did not exist.

Then Clinton (perhaps to immunize himself about mutterings involving the Mena airport during the 1980s) decreed that the Mexican military should be allowed to send contingents up to the States, to receive the full nine yards worth of special operations training from the American military. This would, Clinton said, allow the Mexican government to subdue the narcotraficante cartels.

The guys thus trained in the latest and best spec-ops tradecraft went back to Mexico and immediately defected to work for the cartels as guns for hire, and then from that, branched out further and became a horribly murderous cartel in their own right. A policy triumph.

Remember, "government is just a word for things we decide to do together". Like, um, training Mexican drug assassins at U.S. taxpayer expense.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (noWW6)

348 @40: "ALL of them sold us out. Cruz, Rubio, lunatic McCain, Queen Graham..."

Actually, NONE of them sold you out. To sell you out, they'd have to have been on your side in the first place. They never were.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 02, 2015 07:57 PM (RrOb6)

349
I doubt Rinse will notice Trump has one hand behind his back with his fingers crossed.

Posted by: wth at September 02, 2015 07:57 PM (wAQA5)

350
I've been talking about a wall since the 1980's. Never seems to get built. Lots of politicians keep talking about it though.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:57 PM (ODxAs)

351 Demands of a "loyalty oath" from the Vichy GOP traitors.

I'd say that qualifies as an eminent example of chutzpa.


... or "imminent" if you are a wise, empathetic latina ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 07:57 PM (zc3Db)

352 To sell you out, they'd have to have been on your side in the first place. They never were.

That's why I'm in the Treebeard party: I'm not for any of them, because they're not for me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (39g3+)

353
34 Democrats...

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (iGCx2)

354 Phoenixgirl...perfect hashtag

Posted by: Clarney at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (y0dP9)

355 334
I don't know how you watch that stuff Bruce. I don't want it floating around in my head.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 07:53 PM (ODxAs)
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The website that posted it said so much of this shit is happening and it is censored so no one really knows about it. I rather know than not know. I had no idea how effin brutal they were. These women may have had relatives in a rival cartel but they were a threat to no one.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (iQIUe)

356 "But never even the most rudimentary details."

I'd rather have a guy who has no details in his plan than a guy who has an immensely detailed plan that is bullshit from the get-go, and that he plans to ditch thirty seconds after taking the oath of office.

See also: Mitt Romney.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (noWW6)

357 Also, on the Republican side, it's all about the deep grounding of the message. It's easier for the Dems to message because all they have to do is promise stuff. Conservatives have the unfortunate task of having to make a convincing argument for elf-discipline and self-control. Trump hasn't, and can't by his very nature, but neither has anyone else.

Posted by: Caliban at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (3GFMN)

358 Penis is meeting Trump at Trump Tower. Talk about a home field advantage

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (DUoqb)

359
34 Democrats > 55 Republicans

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (iGCx2)

360 Let them just try to force me not to vote independent! I will write in a ballot if I do not see what I like. And I like Cruz, Carson, Perry, Walker, Fiorina, Jindal... If I do not get one of those I will not vote for the GOP candidate.

Posted by: steve in tulsa at September 02, 2015 07:59 PM (BHByJ)

361 Demands of a "loyalty oath" from the Vichy GOP traitors collaborators , I would say.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 07:59 PM (9mTYi)

362 I'd ask for the establishment guys like Christie to sign a loyalty oath to the American people but I know they'd use it for toilet paper at the first opportunity, daring us to notice.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2015 07:59 PM (39g3+)

363 34 Democrats > 55 Republicans

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 07:58 PM (iGCx2)


Low bar.

2 wet turds > 55 Republicans

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 08:00 PM (zc3Db)

364 Loyalty? Didn't think Trump was a captain of a ship and needed to go down with it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:00 PM (OMXTD)

365 Let Hillary take it. At least she is honest about her plans. McConnell and Boehner do not have a micrometer of sunlight between themselves and Hairy Reed or Nancy Pelousy.

Posted by: steve in tulsa at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (BHByJ)

366 Demands of a "loyalty oath" from the Vichy GOP traitors collaborators , I would say.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 07:59 PM (9mTYi)

Yes. You are correct. Thanks, Mike.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (zc3Db)

367
No L, I got a ChiCorgi. Stubborn as all get out, kinda like a cat, but he is very loyal, and has a fur of tuxedo. My wife wanted him as lap dog. I am a big fan of big dogs, I always wanted a great dane too.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (ODxAs)

368 I would like to legalize 483rd trimester abortions, please.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (TOk1P)

369 >>Leave the Irish out of it.

We keep trying, but the damn potato huffers won't have it.

Posted by: Idaho Potato Commission at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (c7vUv)

370 Another self inflicted GOP wound...

40.1% of the electorate currently self describes as Independent.... mainly because neither PARTY represents them...

so now the GOP will now FORCE the most independent Guy running to sign a loyalty pledge?

When many see THEM as the problem???

Not.... Smart...

And funny... this was a sock from earlier... but how... appropriate... good thing he never signed the WHIG's loyalty pledge...

Posted by: Abe Lincoln... at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (qh617)

371 216
I suspect that El Gobernador Yebbie doesn't get threatened by many Mexican drug lords.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 07:23 PM (8ZskC)


You said a mouthful. Twenty years ago, the idea that drug cartels had ties to the government was pure Lyndon LaRouche crackpotism. Today? I don't think it's the least bit far-fetched.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

372 I'm mixed on Trump and it's too early to get hardons for anybody. He's at least 51% loud NY blowhard and full of it. But he's forcing issues out there that we need to deal with. Also, got to give him props that all his kids turned out well - in a world of dipshit rich progeny, you never hear shit about the Trumplings and they all got good educations and when they talk they sound sharp and down to earth. BUT the big reason I'd pull the lever for Trump or Cruz if the primary was tomorrow would be to say FUCK YOU to GOP leaders

TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LA
TRA LA LA
MUTHAFUCKAS

Posted by: Asshole Banana Splits Guy at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (/NUtA)

373 I would like to legalize 483rd trimester abortions, please.


Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (TOk1P)


Crep, ignore that. I have to rework the math. It's been a long day...

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (TOk1P)

374 If Trump comes out calling McTurtle and J Boner the asshole pushover pussies they are, he has cemented the base's vote. The GOPe will go to open primary states and get the fascist democrats to vote for their slightly less fascist candidate...and they will do that.

What will we call the new party?

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 08:03 PM (f+6Pd)

375 My take on what may behind the push for Trump to take a loyalty oath.

http://honoranddaring.com/the-gop-attack-on-trump/

Posted by: Michael Sebastian at September 02, 2015 08:03 PM (MBQlV)

376 so now the GOP will now FORCE the most independent Guy running to sign a loyalty pledge?

When many see THEM as the problem???
Posted by: Abe Lincoln...

The American voters suck, that's why we need millions of New & Improved voters.

Posted by: Your Dem and GOPe betters at September 02, 2015 08:03 PM (awspb)

377 305 So will there be the concomitant pledge by the GOP Establishment and its cheerleaders that they will support, vote for, contribute to and volunteer for Trump when he wins the nomination?

Because, as I've been told, anyone who gets the votes in the primaries must be supported in the general.

Electability, don't you know.
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at September 02, 2015 07:46 PM (IrByp)




I said it upthread. Based on past experience it's the GOPe that need the loyalty oath. If they don't get their way they withhold support. They endorse the democrat. Or they run a write in campaign.


Why did Ron Paul never have to sign a loyalty oath? He actually ran as a third party candidate in 1988.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (z/Ubi)

378 Nobody owes the GOP a fucking thing,especially loyalty.Fuck them.

Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (sPO3u)

379 I would like to legalize 483rd trimester abortions, please.




Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:01 PM (TOk1P)


Crep, ignore that. I have to rework the math. It's been a long day...


Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (TOk1P)


Make it 644th trimester.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (TOk1P)

380 Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission requesting that it investigate the Democratic National Committee (DNC) for having "knowingly hired" an illegal alien, Cindy Nava, to help craft the committee's 2016 political message and communications. Judicial Watch filed its complaint on August 25, 2015.

Top of Drudge...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (NOIQH)

381
So, a Republican is about 0.61 the equal of a Democrat.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:05 PM (iGCx2)

382 What does the GOP know about loyalty F 'em.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:05 PM (BO/km)

383 so now the GOP will now FORCE the most independent Guy running to sign a loyalty pledge? When many see THEM as the problem??? Not.... Smart... And funny... this was a sock from earlier... but how... appropriate... good thing he never signed the WHIG's loyalty pledge...
Posted by: Abe Lincoln... at September 02, 2015 08:02 PM (qh617)


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He hasn't signed it yet. He'll negotiate a deal probably. He'll probably have a counter-pledge written up for the RNC also. If the RNC refuses, then he refuses.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 08:06 PM (Fmupd)

384 So, a Republican is about 0.61 the equal of a Democrat.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle

Are you saying Republicans in DC count as 3/5s of a person?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 02, 2015 08:06 PM (awspb)

385 I said it upthread. Based on past experience it's the GOPe that need the loyalty oath.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (z/Ubi)


They need to be held to their oaths of office, which they shit all over with the glee of retarded Occupoopers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (zc3Db)

386 call the new party The Constitutional Party

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (Uk9e2)

387 Oh okay, Guy, my little girl is just as stubborn. She has all kinds of attitude and so sassy, but she's so affectionate and not as hard as I thought it would be to train her. The biggest problem with her is that she is going to be bigger, faster, and stronger than me in 3 months so there's a short window of opportunity for training her and getting her to be obedient. Plus the early, expensive health issues that go with Great Danes.

You should get a Great Dane next. If you can handle a stubborn puppy, you can handle a Great Dane. They have such funny personalities. They are exactly like Scooby.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (2x3L+)

388 I feel compelled to point out that many are prepared to embrace, by default, the Democrat candidate. There is a distinct "I'm going to take my ball and go home" air about it.

However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

That's just me, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (9mTYi)

389 Don't shoot the messenger!

Posted by: Cindy Fava at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (Dwehj)

390
Are you saying Republicans in DC count as 3/5s of a person?

That's about the long and short of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (iGCx2)

391 He hasn't signed it yet. He'll negotiate a deal
probably. He'll probably have a counter-pledge written up for the RNC
also. If the RNC refuses, then he refuses.

Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 08:06 PM (Fmupd)


I think the counteroffer might be to shove bill kristol up prince rebus' bunghole.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:08 PM (TOk1P)

392 What will we call the new party?

The fabulous whig party.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 08:08 PM (27JXp)

393 Okay enough for me. They also have videos of people with dynamite taped to their chests or neck and it being set off. The are videos of peoples legs being hacked off.

All of this is reminiscent of ISIS. These mexican gangs already have a presence in the US. We are so effed!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 08:08 PM (iQIUe)

394 The Lace Whig Party.

Posted by: Cindy Fava at September 02, 2015 08:08 PM (Dwehj)

395 However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

Yeah, appointments matter!

Posted by: Roberts and Kennedy at September 02, 2015 08:09 PM (27JXp)

396
Top of Drudge...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 08:04 PM (NOIQH)


Interesting because it IS still a felony to knowingly aid and abet an Illegal to stay in this country...

and yes, that DOES include Government employees...

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 08:09 PM (qh617)

397 That's just me, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September

Yeah because John Roberts needs Harriet Meyer at his side.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:09 PM (OMXTD)

398 389. Sorry, someone is going to have to be shot.

Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2015 08:10 PM (e3bId)

399 Maybe this explains why we have so many illegals in the country.

http://usat.ly/1LVO6kJ

Posted by: MTF at September 02, 2015 08:11 PM (hxWs0)

400 'He'll probably have a counter-pledge written up for the RNC also. If the RNC refuses, then he refuses.'


The way the GOP makes deals he will probably get whatever he wants.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:11 PM (BO/km)

401 >>Interesting because it IS still a felony to knowingly aid and abet an Illegal to stay in this country...

And if that's not bad enough:

"Federal law prohibits foreign nationals from participating 'directly or indirectly in the decision-making process' of federal, state, or local election-related activities."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 08:12 PM (NOIQH)

402
The way the GOP makes deals he will probably get whatever he wants.

Heh, Trump will walk away with a million in cash and 55% ownership of the GOP!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:12 PM (iGCx2)

403

And how funny that ultimately one of the final nails in the GOPe coffin will be hammered in by Barbara Mikulski.
Corker just held it while she drove it in.

How low can you go?

Posted by: GBruno at September 02, 2015 08:13 PM (u49WF)

404
I can see you smiling in your comments L. Puppies tend to do that to people, happy for you. Before I always had Labs and they were so easy to train. This one is tough because we got him so old, but he does make us laugh alot. Plus the little bastard chases the deer out of the yard, bonus points, he won't back down to anything.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 08:13 PM (ODxAs)

405 I agree that if Trump signs a pledge not to go third party he needs to get a pledge from the RNC that they will not keep try to keep him out of the primaries.

The RNC is scared because he's got so much support.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 08:14 PM (OSs/l)

406 Word is with my teenagers that the kids today are digging Trump and despise the Hillster. What do they know though?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:14 PM (BO/km)

407 Well,the lefts appointments are money.Reliable votes for life.Republican appointments,not so much.

Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2015 08:14 PM (sPO3u)

408 So, a Republican is about 0.61 the equal of a Democrat.

Well,
we really haven't seen the limit of how far they're willing to cave.
Based on the available evidence, this posse of dickless shitweasels
would probably still be giving the store away to Ofuckhead even if there
were only 5 Dems in the Senate.

And trumpetdaddy would still be marveling at their farsightedness.

Posted by: they're doing the best they can! at September 02, 2015 08:15 PM (Eg5gJ)

409 And still completely speculative on your part. He may well be our own 'Little Boots'.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2015 07:47 PM (rwI+c)
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Look me in the eye and tell me Incitatus wouldn't be better than half of our current senators.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 02, 2015 08:15 PM (jR7Wy)

410 Did you see Gwen Awful's snotty remark about Bibi?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 08:15 PM (iQIUe)

411 Trump is more than likely going to crash and burn sometime during the primaries. But he should tell RNC to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Chester Simms at September 02, 2015 08:15 PM (mAsos)

412

I promise the formation of a new party
A third party, the Wild Party!

Posted by: A. Cooper at September 02, 2015 08:17 PM (W5DcG)

413 And if that's not bad enough:

"Federal law prohibits foreign nationals from participating 'directly or indirectly in the decision-making process' of federal, state, or local election-related activities."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 08:12 PM (NOIQH)


Yeah ... and foreigners are not allowed to take part or donate in any way to political campaigns ... but the largest Presidential campaign rally in US history took place in a foreign nation, for foreigners, paid for, in part, by a foreign government.

Rule of Law? National sovereignty? LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 08:17 PM (zc3Db)

414 405 I agree that if Trump signs a pledge not to go third party he needs to get a pledge from the RNC that they will not keep try to keep him out of the primaries.

Trump should pledge on the condition they do something they'll never agree to, and force them to back down or say his pledge isn't good enough.

If they do the former, he can do a victory lap for having defeated them. If they do the latter, he raises a shit storm and rides the bloody crest into the waiting arms of total party armageddon.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 08:17 PM (27JXp)

415 Well, when we've finally been totally betrayed by the Repubstab, then we all vote Democrat.

Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 08:18 PM (53CCM)

416 410

Yes, and hopefully she got a twiitterful of responses critiquing it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 08:18 PM (OSs/l)

417 A third party, the Wild Party!

Rah rah ole!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcClF730CLI

Posted by: Kim Mitchell at September 02, 2015 08:18 PM (Eg5gJ)

418 Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 07:56 PM (laMCB)
-------------------------------

You are trying to make an intellectual argument when this is emotional. People aren't supporting Trump because of his apparent flips or his past positions. They are supporting him because they are pissed off and he's the only guy who is acting like he's pissed off too. He speaks plainly, he treats the media with contempt, he doesn't back away from a fight nor does he apologize, his platform (if it can be called that) is very simple: China sucks, Mexico sucks, the Republican party is run by losers. He connects with people on a very basic level. He may lose steam because emotion can only last so long, unless that is the GOP souper geniuses keep doing (or even proposing) dumb shit like this. They keep poking the bear with a stick instead of letting the bear go back to sleep. I think they might just be starting to figure out that they aren't dealing with Christine O'Donnell or Sharon Angle or even a Chris McDaniel here, but I have confidence that they will still find a way to step on their cranks.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 08:19 PM (pqgPu)

419 However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

Yeah, appointments matter!
----------------------------

Yes, they do. Scalia, Thomas, Alito.
Two appointments away from a sane majority.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:20 PM (9mTYi)

420 >>>Once again we have a party which will not resort to extraordinary measures to fulfill any of their policy promises

They are, 'The Boulevard of Broken Promises'

Why do they think they are owed a promise?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 08:21 PM (0q2P7)

421 plenty of salmon in my time, and I never, even once, wore gloves while cleaning and filleting them.

I always use one for Pike but they're 10#s of pissed off slime with a mouthful of kitten sharp teeth.

Posted by: DaveA at September 02, 2015 08:22 PM (DL2i+)

422 I've posted this before: A group took a dozen young boys about 13 or so from an English Prep school and told them that they alone would secretly be in charge of everything that happened to their class for the next few years. They then set them up in an unused library conference room and secretly filmed their first meeting. The first things they agreed on? 1) No one could know that they ran everything and 2) Absolutely no one else could join their group.

Posted by: Daybrother at September 02, 2015 08:22 PM (IIFxk)

423 'You are trying to make an intellectual argument when this is emotional. '


To hell with intellect this is America dammit! I'm not going to be emotional when choosing the best of the worst.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:23 PM (BO/km)

424
Democratic National Committee (DNC) for having "knowingly hired" an illegal alien, Cindy Nava
.....................
Debbie, meet Hillary, Huma, and Cheryl, your new block mates. Oh, you already know each other. What a small world.

Posted by: Womens Federal Prison at September 02, 2015 08:23 PM (wAQA5)

425 Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 08:19 PM (pqgPu)

Oh, he definitely connects with people on a gut level. I just mourn that we've become a nation of feelers, not doers or thinkers.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 08:23 PM (laMCB)

426 415 Well, when we've finally been totally betrayed by the Repubstab, then we all vote Democrat.
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 08:18 PM (53CCM)

I will stay home or vote for some 3rd party before voting for a D.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:24 PM (OMXTD)

427 There is something to be said for a gut level reaction. It's based on more than emotion.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:25 PM (BO/km)

428 I don't particularly care for or endorse Trump. He's not even remotely conservative in almost any way, erratic, an egotistical asshole, and completely unsuited for the Presidency. Nevertheless, there is a really, really high chance I vote for Trump in the primary. If Cruz seems to have a realistic chance of grabbing the prize, he gets my vote. Walker and the other acceptable candidates already seem to be nonviable, so they're out. But if Cruz is out, then...

...then I vote to summon the meteors, and Trump's ego and wallet are the only things big enough in the race to lay fiery waste to the donor class and the RINOs. Someone up above said that if he has to eat a shit sandwich, everyone is going to eat one. This pretty much sums up a big chunk of the Trump fanbase.

I will not vote for the RINOs. They are dead to me, particularly after today.

Posted by: Locarno at September 02, 2015 08:25 PM (Ms7bu)

429

I won't vote for Republicans anymore.
But I'll never pull the lever for the Devil.

If a candidate comes along that I like, I'll vote.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:26 PM (iGCx2)

430 You are trying to make an intellectual argument when this is emotional.
-----------------

People enjoy justifying their anger by rationalization. Innumerable barroom brawls start that way every Friday night. The results are universally not good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:26 PM (9mTYi)

431 They are supporting him because they are pissed off and he's the only guy who is acting like he's pissed off too.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 08:19 PM (pqgPu)


That is incorrect. A lot of Trump's support is because of his policy positions. He first rose in prominence because he was the only person who has a reasonable and correct view of the illegal invasion, which happens to be one of the most important issues there is, right now and a definite deal-breaker for those traitors who want to give aid and comfort to the illegal invasion. people also support Trump because he wants America to win - which America should always do.

This is not about emotions. This is about America, which has been beaten to a dead pulp by Barky and the Vichy GOP collaborators.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 08:28 PM (zc3Db)

432 Ah gee. Just got home from work and clicked on Drudge to see what was up today. Wish I hadn't.

Posted by: Tuna at September 02, 2015 08:28 PM (JSovD)

433 >>>>Oh, he definitely connects with people on a gut level. I just mourn that we've become a nation of feelers, not doers or thinkers.

Desperation makes people do very strange things.

Trump is a creation of the Republican party. If they hadn't sold people out at every step along the way he wouldn't be in this race right now. It's their fault.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 08:28 PM (pqgPu)

434 Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 08:19 PM (pqgPu)

Well said...

Trump is like the America of yesterday...

Brash... unapologetic... downright RUDE at times... willing to fight... and has a bit of a chip on its shoulder...


But rich... and gives rides to Kids in the Trump Copter....

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 08:28 PM (qh617)

435 Well, I am both a thinker and a doer. I think I'll make a dooty.

Posted by: Ready For Choo Choo!!11!! at September 02, 2015 08:28 PM (Dwehj)

436 I like big nuts and I cannot lie,
You other brothers can't deny...

Posted by: Vespers O'Houlihan at September 02, 2015 08:29 PM (OQNx4)

437 BTW my gut reaction is that Trumpy would not make a good president. I had that same feeling about the JEF too.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:29 PM (BO/km)

438 >>>Oh, he definitely connects with people on a gut level. I just mourn that we've become a nation of feelers, not doers or thinkers.

Oh there is a practical more logical reasons to pick Trump.

1. The End is Inevitable
1A Trump will make it EPIC!!!
1B Trump will make it Entertaining!!!
1C Trump will hopefully make it quick instead of watching it languish for several more decades.
1D. Trump will be some level of deserved retribution visited back on those whom have caused our demise.

Trump is the incarnation of the loss of Hope in reforming the Republican party, the ackowledgement that that means the end of America, and finally a reasonable desire to dish out a little justice for that fact.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 08:29 PM (0q2P7)

439 Barky ciuldn't have done any of his shit without traitors in the other party. The GOPe must die.

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 08:30 PM (Uk9e2)

440 People enjoy justifying their anger by rationalization. Innumerable barroom brawls start that way every Friday night. The results are universally not good.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:26 PM (9mTYi)

Been known to happen here as well. Damn valu-rite

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:31 PM (OMXTD)

441

At the rate we're going, we'll be lucky to make it to the election. I think we're about 3 race riots away from President Historic First turning on the "revolution machine".

And if we do make it, a lot of Republican voters are going to just say fvck it, they don't represent me anyway.

Posted by: GBruno at September 02, 2015 08:31 PM (u49WF)

442
However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

That's just me, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (9mTYi)

________

I know right. If we don't elect a Republican prezzie we might end up with a Souter or Kennedy or John "It's a Tax" Roberts.

Oh wait....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:31 PM (0LHZx)

443
Are there neat armbands to go with the oath?

Posted by: irongrampa at September 02, 2015 08:31 PM (jeCnD)

444 Guy, I always heard labs were hard to train bc they're such high energy puppies. A red lab or bloodhound was tied for second place for me after Great Dane

Get a Great Dane next. Convince your wife into a big dog as you'll need a fighter once the burning times come. Great Danes, despite their size and strength think they're lap dogs in their own minds. Their funniest problem is that they don't understand or know their own size and strength. They'll knock down their owners when they're excited accidentally and express all kinds of love once they realize they knocked down their owner/s. Though, they are such loyal dogs, they will turn into pit bulls and lock down their jaws if they sense their owner or any family member is being threatened. They'll die for you. But that's a last resort. They are by nature gentle, loving family dogs.

Get a Great Dane and thank me once you do, Guy Mohawk. It will be for you, like for me,the best decision of your life.
Is threatened.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 08:32 PM (2x3L+)

445

However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

That's just me, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:07 PM (9mTYi)

________

I know right. If we don't elect a Republican prezzie we might end up with a Souter or Kennedy or John "It's a Tax" Roberts.

Oh wait....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN


With teh Senate "leadership" the way it is, we are virtually GUARANTEED a stealth liberal, or at least a milquetoast establishmentarian if we win in 2016.

Posted by: imp at September 02, 2015 08:33 PM (XIXZz)

446 'Are there neat armbands to go with the oath?'

I was thinking the same thing ig. Sign up and join the party!

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:33 PM (BO/km)

447 Dr. Freakenfurter, there are probably no non-terrible Presidents in the group of people who could even somewhat plausibly win. Yes, I'm including Cruz in that - he'd be a bad President, any other election.

This is not a normal election.

This election is merely to choose the form of the Destroyer.

Posted by: Locarno at September 02, 2015 08:34 PM (Ms7bu)

448 I don't know what Trump will do as president. He might be the next Reagan or the next Obama. Who knows?

I **DO** know what Jeb will do as president. Amnesty, more common core, more spending, never ending pandering to minorities who will never vote for him.

Worst case scenario with Trump...he's another Obama. BEST case scenario with Jeb, he's another Obama.

So tell me exactly what I have to lose by voting for Trump.....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:36 PM (0LHZx)

449 As I believe Ace has pointed out, politics is transactional: Different groups get together and say, if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

What we've been getting from the Establishment is we scratch their back...

...then they tell us how *sorry* they feel that our back itches, and promise to look into doing something about it at some point in the future just as long as we vote for them in the next election.

Trump is the result.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at September 02, 2015 08:36 PM (R1mDg)

450 Guy, the "is threatened" at the end was a cut and paste error.

Just get a Great Dane next.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 08:36 PM (2x3L+)

451 Don't be shtoopid, be a schmarty, come and join our dying party.

Posted by: The GOPe at September 02, 2015 08:36 PM (laMCB)

452 We tried everything We could but we just didn't have the votes for:





Fill in hill not to die on...

Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:37 PM (hUdMz)

453 Worst case scenario with Trump...he's another Obama. BEST case scenario with Jeb, he's another Obama.

So tell me exactly what I have to lose by voting for Trump.....
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016

VULGARIAN!11!!

Posted by: George Will at September 02, 2015 08:37 PM (awspb)

454 I know right. If we don't elect a Republican prezzie we might end up with a Souter or Kennedy or John "It's a Tax" Roberts.

Oh wait....
Posted by: HUCK
----------------------

Why do you assume that? A Democrat guarantees a Ginsburgish appointment. A Cruz appointment might very well be a Thomas or Scalia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (9mTYi)

455 The loyalty thing was my idea.

Posted by: Karl Blove at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (Dwehj)

456 gooble gobble one of us

Posted by: GOPe loyalty oath first draft at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (Eg5gJ)

457 Why do you assume that? A Democrat guarantees a Ginsburgish appointment. A Cruz appointment might very well be a Thomas or Scalia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (9mTYi)


What would a Trump appointment look like?

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (laMCB)

458 What would a Trump appointment look like?

Well He admires His Lib Judge sister so....

Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:39 PM (hUdMz)

459 Mr. Hammer has a point and I will certainly take that into account. I did when I cast my vote for MR.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:40 PM (BO/km)

460

What would a Trump appointment look like?

Judge Judy, probably.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:40 PM (iGCx2)

461 Why do you assume that? A Democrat guarantees a Ginsburgish appointment. A Cruz appointment might very well be a Thomas or Scalia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (9mTYi)

___________

Let's be realistic. Cruz is not going to win the presidency. If by some miracle he were to win the GOP nomination, he'd lose the general because the GOPe would do everything it could to see him lose. You'd have assholes like Kristol and the entire Fox News / National Review machine campaign for the Democrat.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:41 PM (0LHZx)

462 458 What would a Trump appointment look like?

Well He admires His Lib Judge sister so....
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:39 PM (hUdMz)

___________

FFS what's he supposed to say, he hates his sister?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:41 PM (0LHZx)

463 Judge Judy, probably.

AWESOME!!!

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:41 PM (BO/km)

464 Why do you assume that? A Democrat guarantees a Ginsburgish appointment. A Cruz appointment might very well be a Thomas or Scalia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 08:38 PM (9mTYi)

*****

You mentioned that you would vote to keep appointments out of the Dems hands. Fine.

What do you think a Jeb appointment would look and act like? My guess is a lot more like Sotomayor (sp?) than a Thomas or Scalia.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (Gtd96)

465 BTW my gut reaction is that Trumpy would not make a good president. I had that same feeling about the JEF too.
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter
------
But the only "job" O ever had was to sow discord, to destroy. That's all he knows how to do. That's why he acts as he does. He's never held a job that's forced him to take economic realities seriously. Of course Trump is superior. And that fact should "trump" (hah!) any negative intuitions you have abot the man. Oh, I'm a good little trumpkin, I am.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (OQNx4)

466 Well He admires His Lib Judge sister so....
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:39 PM (hUdMz)

___________

FFS what's he supposed to say, he hates his sister?

Did I touch a nerve?

Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (hUdMz)

467 I like the judge down in Texas who asked Obama's DOJ why he shouldn't hold them in contempt for lying to him.

But Trump would probably be like, "I know some people who know some people who assure me that this judge will be terrific, the best. You won't believe what a great judge this person will be, I'm telling you."

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (laMCB)

468 In other news, Miley Cyrus has asked Ariana Grande to sign a chastity oath.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (KQTmr)

469 Would Judge Judy be such a bad choice for SCOTUS?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:43 PM (0LHZx)

470 Has there yet been any discussion of Ivanka Trump's boobs?

Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2015 08:43 PM (e3bId)

471 460

What would a Trump appointment look like?

Judge Judy, probably.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with

And what's so bad about that?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:43 PM (OMXTD)

472 This election is merely to choose the form of the Destroyer.

Posted by: Locarno at September 02, 2015 08:34 PM


Hmmm....so. Chris Christie as the Sta Puft Marshmallow Man, or a giant Slor.

I'll be honest...gonna have to go with the giant Slor. Or possibly a large and moving Torg. Has that been done too often, do you think?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:44 PM (KrAjA)

473
I'd be okay with Judge Judy. Never said I wouldn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:44 PM (iGCx2)

474 L,elle,

I had neighbors that had Great Danes. One of them learned how to open the refrigerator and they came home after work to a serious mess. They also had scratch marks on the overhead cabinets from the dogs.

I have enough problems dealing with the new springer, but we are making progress.

Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2015 08:44 PM (5HBd1)

475 "This election is merely to choose the form of the Destroyer."

I'm available.

Posted by: Large Moving Torb at September 02, 2015 08:44 PM (noWW6)

476 466 Well He admires His Lib Judge sister so....
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:39 PM (hUdMz)

___________

FFS what's he supposed to say, he hates his sister?

Did I touch a nerve?
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:42 PM (hUdMz)

_____________

OK you go ahead and make your political choices based on what the candidate's sister does. That's super smart.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:45 PM (0LHZx)

477 Out: Ivanka's boobs.
In: Melina's boobs.

Posted by: TMZ at September 02, 2015 08:45 PM (laMCB)

478 Welp. Moo-moo is here, so I guess we oughta just let him shit up the whole fucking internet. Later.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 02, 2015 08:45 PM (k9qR4)

479
OK you go ahead and make your political choices based on what the candidate's sister does. That's super smart.

Lighten up Francis...

Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 08:45 PM (hUdMz)

480

Yeah, Francis, lighten up.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM (iGCx2)

481 "What do you think a Jeb appointment would look and act like?"

Us.

Posted by: David Souter and John Roberts at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM (noWW6)

482 Who is this Francis fellow?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM (0LHZx)

483 KMA is the only response that works for many of the unwashed out here in flown over/Forgotten country.

Kiss our collective asses GOPe.

Disagreement is honorable but you whores are OWNED by your pimps and now you want loyalty?

KOA>

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM (QYX7Q)

484 I'm feeling a double dose of teh passive-aggressive coming on.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM (Dwehj)

485 Told my hubby tonight I am switching to independent and applying for Scottish citizenship. Not even kidding.

Posted by: Molly k at September 02, 2015 08:47 PM (zS+qK)

486 Trump should tell the viewing audience at the CNN debate which GOP candidates would force him to run as an independent and which would not. Great television, that, and a nice way to destroy some folks...

The Republican Party will have crossed the Rubicon if this insane pledge comes to fruition. There will be no turning back as the barrel goes over the falls. I just hope it is Mitch's turn inside it.

Posted by: Name names at September 02, 2015 08:48 PM (pq97T)

487 Burnin' Burnin' Burnin'
Disco Inferno

LIB

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 02, 2015 08:48 PM (l0lja)

488 Who is this Francis fellow?



Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM


Seriously?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:49 PM (KrAjA)

489 >But that's a last resort. They are by nature gentle, loving family dogs.

Great Dane's applicability as a guard dog is about average, only useful against someone whom had no plan at all to deal with a dog. Their show breeding has taken much of the stamina of the animal and they are really only well suited as a family pet. At only 7 years average life, not a good emmotional investment.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 08:49 PM (0q2P7)

490 Trump will probably just counter-demand Priebus surrender. Trump will of course already have the terms of surrender ready for Priebus's signature.

It will be just like when the Japanese emperor came to see MacArthur...afterwards Priebus will be forced to put on some Trump gear and be sent back to RNC headquarters.

Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 08:49 PM (q52Ma)

491 I think it's kind of, well, charming that were still acting as though any of this matters.

Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2015 08:50 PM (e3bId)

492 Posted by: Molly k at September 02, 2015 08:47 PM (zS+qK

Is your husband Scots?.

It's a lovely country but unfortunately they are even farther down the socialist/pc highway than we are.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 08:51 PM (OSs/l)

493 afterwards Priebus will be forced to put on some panties and leather mask and be sent back to RNC headquarters.


Fify as I'd like to see it.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:51 PM (BO/km)

494 >>> Judge Judy

Sacred honor, Bro, sacred honor.

Posted by: Will Folkee at September 02, 2015 08:51 PM (2iV3X)

495
442 We got the crucial Heller decision out of the current Supreme Court lineup and anyone who claims that Dem nominees instead of Roberts and Alito would have provided the same result is either deliberately dishonest or a blitheringidiot. SC nominations have proven and will continue to prove vital.
Want your opinions taken seriously? Have serious opinions.

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:52 PM (LAliD)

496 488 Who is this Francis fellow?



Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 08:46 PM

Seriously?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September

Since Stripes has never been on PBS, no, he hasn't seen it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:53 PM (OMXTD)

497 put Priebus in a dress and send her back as "Madge"

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 08:53 PM (Uk9e2)

498
Judge Judy would be a BRILLIANT SC justice.
She makes $45 million a year now.
Smart is as smart does.

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:54 PM (LAliD)

499 496 YAY personal insults are back on the AoS!!!

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (LAliD)

500 491 I think it's kind of, well, charming that were still acting as though any of this matters.
Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2015 08:50 PM (e3bId)


Yes, the rot has really settled in.

1. We have a second generation now of voters who can't think for themselves and are completely ignorant of history and civics.

2. We have Gen X-ers running multinational, billion-dollar businesses that have no moral compass and don't even bother to think in terms of right or wrong, just what's good for the bottom line.

3. Every major cultural and political institution is infiltrated by leftists: Academia, the Media, Hollywood, and the Permanent Bureaucracies at federal and state levels.

4. We have a generation of politicians who think that their purpose is to pander to various groups and in turn be enriched by them.

Hmm, well, I guess some things haven't changed.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (laMCB)

501 put Priebus in a dress and send her back as "Madge"

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 08:53 PM


Humiliation? You're soaking in it!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (KrAjA)

502 499 496 YAY personal insults are back on the AoS!!!
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015


Shhhh don't tell ace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:56 PM (OMXTD)

503 -
497
put Priebus in a dress and send her back as "Madge"
---------------

You're soaking in it.

Posted by: R.P. at September 02, 2015 08:56 PM (DtNNC)

504 Humiliation? You're soaking in it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (KrAjA)

hey, long time no see -- anything ever come of that job interview?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 08:57 PM (AkOaV)

505 499 496 YAY personal insults are back on the AoS!!!

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015





Shhhh don't tell ace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 08:56 PM (OMXTD)


I'm sure Ace is drunken tweeting Megyn by now. He won't see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 08:57 PM (TOk1P)

506 ... I'd say something really pithy here, but when dealing with ooM ooM, why fk'n bother.

Posted by: Sir Francis Bacon, M'Fkn Earl of Sandwich, Bitch at September 02, 2015 08:57 PM (ubWCN)

507 Barky ciuldn't have done any of his shit without traitors in the other party. The GOPe must die.

--

It really can't be emphasized enough. They have assured that Choom's Lame Duck time left in office is very successful for him.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (pVkEV)

508
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (LAliD)
You're like Renfield to Moo Moo's Dracula.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (oVJmc)

509 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM

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Now I kind of hate you.

Posted by: R.P. at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (DtNNC)

510 395 However lame the Republican candidate may or may not be, I will not cede Supreme Court appointments to Hillary, Liz, Joe, or O'Malley.

Yeah, appointments matter!
Posted by: Roberts and Kennedy at September 02, 2015 08:09 PM (27JXp)
-------------------------
Roberts votes correctly 80% of the time and Kennedy about 70%. I prefer that to 0%.

Heller.

Appointments DO matter.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (cN9Sk)

511 499 496 YAY personal insults are back on the AoS!!!


Waitaminute are you saying that saying that someone watches PBS is an insult?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 08:59 PM (BO/km)

512 hey, long time no see -- anything ever come of that job interview?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 08:57 PM


Unfortunately, no. I think they were looking for a slightly different skill set. New Hampshire still eludes me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:59 PM (KrAjA)

513 It really can't be emphasized enough. They have assured that Choom's Lame Duck time left in office is very successful for him.
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (pVkEV)


The American people want to see us GOVERN. And of course, everyone knows that means do what the Washington Post and New York Times want.

Posted by: Mitchens at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (laMCB)

514 The GOPe needs to take a loyalty pledge. Starting with jackass Kristol.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (5H/OU)

515 Roberts votes correctly 80% of the time and Kennedy about 70%. I prefer that to 0%.

Heller.

Appointments DO matter.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (cN9Sk)


Right, they vote.

They're not supposed to be voting.

They're supposed to look at the law, then look at the Constitution and say "does this fit within the confines of the constitution?"

They don't do that.

They're all a bunch of hacks.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (AkOaV)

516 Unfortunately, no. I think they were looking for a slightly different skill set. New Hampshire still eludes me.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:59 PM (KrAjA)

Eh, too bad. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (AkOaV)

517 Barky ciuldn't have done any of his shit without traitors in the other party. The GOPe must die.

--

It really can't be emphasized enough. They have assured that Choom's Lame Duck time left in office is very successful for him.


Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (pVkEV)


Yep. I'm trying to imagine what Obama's 2nd term would have been like with a Democrat controlled Congress, and I can't see any way it would be different from what we have.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (TOk1P)

518 Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:52 PM (LAliD)

Yup.... we got the Heller decision, which the lower courts and groups like the California Legislature constantly ignore.

Because the Supremes did NOT really roll back a lot of the law already on the books.

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM (qh617)

519
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM

-----------

Now I kind of hate you.


Posted by: R.P. at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM


My work here is done.

*puts on sunglasses*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:01 PM (KrAjA)

520 How about the Fascist GOPe sign a Loyalty Oath?

If Boner and McTurtle don't deliver what they run on, they resign or plead guilty to Fraud. And then do time; or swing, their choice.

Posted by: anti-socialist at September 02, 2015 09:01 PM (o9lmn)

521 Back for ONT. C U

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 09:01 PM (laMCB)

522 495
442 We got the crucial Heller decision out of the current Supreme Court lineup and anyone who claims that Dem nominees instead of Roberts and Alito would have provided the same result is either deliberately dishonest or a blitheringidiot. SC nominations have proven and will continue to prove vital.
Want your opinions taken seriously? Have serious opinions.
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:52 PM (LAliD)


The problem is that Supreme Court decisions were never supposed to be the be-all and end-all, and the last word in law. That is not a Republic; it is a dictatorship of judges.

It seems like every major dispute in the country ends up in the Supreme Court, and everybody waits with bated breath for them to issue their decree, which may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with the Constitution.

If the Supreme Court ever tries to void the Second Amendment, well... How many divisions do they have?

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

523 He couldnt get pass the nepotism if he nominated his sister.

Judge Judy is a state small claims judge -- not an appellate judge.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (iQIUe)

524 Eh, too bad. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:00 PM


Thanks. No worries. Lots of other irons in the fire. Some in NH, some down south. You never know. For now, stuck in the People's Republic.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (KrAjA)

525
The GOPe needs to take a loyalty pledge.

--

This is an excellent idea. Shove it back in their faces. Loyalty to their base. Loyalty to the platforms and ideals they say they stand for. This should be made into a big campaign.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (pVkEV)

526 Is it really a loyalty pledge?
Or is it... stay with me here.... a pledge to, if not selected in the primary, not run as a 3rd party candidate out of an H. Ross Perot level of butthurt and thus, hand the election to the CSing democrats?

Posted by: Loyalty Sledge at September 02, 2015 09:03 PM (zkw0K)

527 We doing loyalty pledges nowadays? Fuck a lot of that shit.

Posted by: Cpt. Goldberg, Rtd., Alaksa Republican Party chair at September 02, 2015 09:03 PM (pq97T)

528 YEEEEAAAHHH

Posted by: R.P. at September 02, 2015 09:04 PM (DtNNC)

529 Is it really a loyalty pledge?
Or is it... stay
with me here.... a pledge to, if not selected in the primary, not run as
a 3rd party candidate out of an H. Ross Perot level of butthurt and
thus, hand the election to the CSing democrats?


Posted by: Loyalty Sledge at September 02, 2015 09:03 PM (zkw0K)


Call it the Lisa Murkowski rule.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 09:04 PM (TOk1P)

530 If the Supreme Court ever tries to void the Second Amendment, well... How many divisions do they have?
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

Marbury v Madison, man... what can ya do?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:05 PM (AkOaV)

531 486 Trump should tell the viewing audience at the CNN debate which GOP candidates would force him to run as an independent and which would not. Great television, that, and a nice way to destroy some folks...

The Republican Party will have crossed the Rubicon if this insane pledge comes to fruition. There will be no turning back as the barrel goes over the falls. I just hope it is Mitch's turn inside it.
Posted by: Name names at September 02, 2015 08:48 PM (pq97T)


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My thought was that Trump should say voters gave up on pledges around the time Jeb's dad said "Read my lips, no new taxes", but I like your idea better.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 09:05 PM (mhkbv)

532 A loyalty pledge is a great idea.

I do hereby solemnly swear to, once I'm in the majority, repeal Obamacare.

That's just a first draft.

Posted by: t-bird at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM (FcR7P)

533 Thanks. No worries. Lots of other irons in the fire. Some in NH, some down south. You never know. For now, stuck in the People's Republic.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (KrAjA)

Yeah, there are jobs out there.

On the plus side, I got my LSAT score back recently -- 166. Pretty happy with that.

Because if there's one thing this world doesn't have enough of, it's lawyers.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM (AkOaV)

534 They're truly beneath my contempt.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM (5H/OU)

535 Given the choice to talk about the Iranian deal, the GOP,the democrats, and Trump, who do we talk about?


Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM (UcCUT)

536 Judge Judy is a state small claims judge -- not an appellate judge.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 09:02 PM (iQIUe)

NY state family court judge for 25 years before she went to Hollywood.

But hey, can't be worse then the clowns we have now, can she?

Plus, she's hilarious.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:07 PM (AkOaV)

537 He's supposed to sign a loyalty oath to the people who've broken every promise they've made in the last decade?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 09:07 PM (oVJmc)

538 This guy who was trashing the car dealership who was shot and the cop arrested for it -- He was high on some sort of synthetic drug that causes hallucinations, he would not stop, he got within 10 feet of the cop, the cop's partner tased him but it had no effect, so the ocp shot him and he gets arrested????

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 09:07 PM (iQIUe)

539 My thought was that Trump should say voters gave up on pledges around the time Jeb's dad said "Read my lips, no new taxes", but I like your idea better.
Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 09:05 PM (mhkbv)

**snorts**

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 09:07 PM (OMXTD)

540 On the plus side, I got my LSAT score back recently -- 166. Pretty happy with that.


Because if there's one thing this world doesn't have enough of, it's lawyers.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM


Nice. Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies. And AtC.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (KrAjA)

541 If you're gonna work for me, you're gonna pledge to keep data secure and secrets safe. Clinton secrets, that is.

Posted by: Hillzebub! at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (FcR7P)

542 526 Is it really a loyalty pledge?
Or is it... stay with me here.... a pledge to, if not selected in the primary, not run as a 3rd party candidate out of an H. Ross Perot level of butthurt and thus, hand the election to the CSing democrats?
Posted by: Loyalty Sledge at September 02, 2015 09:03 PM (zkw0K)
----------------------
It's a pledge to not run 3rd party.
And Jeb! damned well ought to sign it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (cN9Sk)

543 Trump appointments? Supreme Court Justice Jeff Sessions sounds nice to me.

I think Trump might be the kind of guy to tell the court to go screw itself if it renders a decision he doesn't like. Which isn't necessarily a good thing but these people do need to be reined in.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwatet at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (pqgPu)

544 Nice. Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies. And AtC.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (KrAjA)

Stoked.

And I'm pretty excited to not have to work for 3 years. That should be fun.

Or, well, at least more fun then work.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:09 PM (AkOaV)

545 Back to writing about ninja nuns, far more believable than the GOPe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:09 PM (0AxXh)

546 What, they want Trump to promise to be like Boehner and McConnell?

Posted by: BamaBubba at September 02, 2015 09:09 PM (vKTRb)

547 Want your opinions taken seriously? Have serious opinions.
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:52 PM (LAliD)

******

My irony meter blew up a Fetzer valve reading this one.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:10 PM (Gtd96)

548 Do ninja nuns have ninja nunchucks?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:11 PM (BO/km)

549 Told my hubby tonight I am switching to independent and applying for Scottish citizenship. Not even kidding.

Posted by: Molly k
-----------------------------
I've considered measures like that. But what about the recent flood of refugees into Europe? They are ruled over by a bunch of Jebs. It's doubtful if it will end well. Jebs to the left of me, Jebs to the right of me.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 09:11 PM (OQNx4)

550 547 Want your opinions taken seriously? Have serious opinions.
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:52 PM (LAliD)

******

My irony meter blew up a Fetzer valve reading this one.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:10 PM (Gtd96)


Well, my opinions are fundamentally unserious, for sure.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:11 PM (AkOaV)

551 Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:07 PM (AkOaV)
============

It's not appellate experience. Plus, she is 73. Also, Judy enjoys her life and is extremely wealthy. I doubt she would want a job with a heavy work load.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 09:11 PM (iQIUe)

552 545 Back to writing about ninja nuns, far more believable than the GOPe.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September

With nunchuck rulers. Ouch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 09:12 PM (OMXTD)

553 Trump press conference at 2 pm tomorrow.



Yuuuuuuge.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 09:12 PM (S85kT)

554 "It seems like every major dispute in the country ends up in the Supreme
Court, and everybody waits with bated breath for them to issue their
decree, which may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with the
Constitution."

The Framers, who worried incessantly about separation of powers, obviously meant to make nine unelected individuals with lifetime tenure into the ultimate arbiters of national policy at all levels.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 09:12 PM (noWW6)

555 " Judge Judy is a state small claims judge -- not an appellate judge. "
-------------
So what? At least she's been a judge for years.
Elena Kagan.....not.

There's no law that says you have to be an appellate judge, or a judge, or even a lawyer to sit on SCOTUS.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 02, 2015 09:13 PM (cN9Sk)

556 At least we're having fun with this election go round. Not like the last one.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:13 PM (BO/km)

557 I considered Italian cship

but I eventually sobered up and realized she'd turn out like her mother

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (Uk9e2)

558 The metal-edged ruler chain weapon... three rulers linked by chains. Plus the Rosary of Garrote/Blade Deflection. Along with the Saint Mechas, five of them that form the Archangel Michael Mecha.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (0AxXh)

559 I am now extremely worried about the Los Zetas coming to get us. Where is our wall, Mr. Ace O'Spades? How are you going to protect us?

They are coming to get us
They are coming to get us
They are coming to get us
They are coming to get us

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (iQIUe)

560 My supreme court nominee would be Judge Reinhold.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (oVJmc)

561 Re Dr. Carson: as far as nerve goes this is a man who spent his career operating on the brains of babies and children and retired with a stellar reputation. I would say he has to have nerves of steel and the self confidence to go along with those nerves.

Posted by: Tuna at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (JSovD)

562 Well, my opinions are fundamentally unserious, for sure.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:11 PM (AkOaV)

******

Right there with you. I am not operating under the illusion that anyone should take them seriously though.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (Gtd96)

563 544 Nice. Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies. And AtC.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:08 PM (KrAjA)

Stoked.

And I'm pretty excited to not have to work for 3 years. That should be fun.

Or, well, at least more fun then work.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:09 PM (AkOaV)



I bet you watch PBS too.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (z/Ubi)

564 There's no law that says you have to be an appellate judge, or a judge, or even a lawyer to sit on SCOTUS.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September

Or brains, or common sense, I could go on but you get the point.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (OMXTD)

565 540 On the plus side, I got my LSAT score back recently -- 166. Pretty happy with that.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM

______________

Well done. Not guaranteed but a decent shot at a T14 school.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (0LHZx)

566 At least we're having fun with this election go round. Not like the last one. Or before that. Or before that. The 2000 one was scary though so I guess it was somewhat exciting.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:16 PM (BO/km)

567 486 Trump should tell the viewing audience at the CNN debate which GOP candidates would force him to run as an independent and which would not. Great television, that, and a nice way to destroy some folks...


I think Trump should say:

Demand. DEMAND!! Who are you to demand anything from an American citizen ??

Then name names.

Posted by: dDan at September 02, 2015 09:16 PM (hwYmz)

568 Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2015 08:44 PM (5HBd1

-----

Yes, this does happen. I read a lot online before so got her. This is why the early training is so critical. I read an account of the exact same thing that you described on a a Great Dane blog, a dog opening the fridge at emptying its contents all over the house. I think that's a dog with separation anxiety issues and an under trained dog. I have an excellent, well paid trainer who grew up with Great Danes so I'm not so worried as I was when I started this whole thing, but we'll see.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 09:17 PM (2x3L+)

569 The metal-edged ruler chain weapon... three rulers linked by chains.
Plus the Rosary of Garrote/Blade Deflection. Along with the Saint
Mechas, five of them that form the Archangel Michael Mecha.


The Penguin swung a mean yardstick.

Posted by: Jake Blues at September 02, 2015 09:17 PM (oVJmc)

570 Apropos of absolutely nothing....anyone here a New Order fan? I've been listening to a lot of their stuff lately and kinda forgot what a kick ass band it is.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:17 PM (0LHZx)

571
Class CLASS
don't make me go ninja on yo ass.

Posted by: Sister Mary Elephant at September 02, 2015 09:18 PM (BO/km)

572 Stoked.


And I'm pretty excited to not have to work for 3 years. That should be fun.


Or, well, at least more fun then work.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:09 PM


I actually enjoyed law school. *waves at AmishDude* So where are you hoping to go?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:18 PM (KrAjA)

573 560 My supreme court nominee would be Judge Reinhold.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 09

Isn't he deceased like buzzion, Thomas Sowell & Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 09:18 PM (OMXTD)

574 Trump's sister is a reagan district court appointee.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 09:19 PM (S85kT)

575 Trump, you magnificent bastard, I read your book111!!!

Posted by: Ancient Astronaut Theorist at September 02, 2015 09:19 PM (msVAP)

576 I like and admire Carson

he has doctor hippocratic salvific instincts

is that a potus? a cinc? a guy to confront putin?

trump makes euniks squeal

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:19 PM (Uk9e2)

577 On the plus side, I got my LSAT score back recently -- 166. Pretty happy with that.

Unless you will be practicing in the immediate vicinity of the school, you need to go to the most prestigious school you can. I made the mistake of coasting on my LSAT to get a free ride to a good (but not famous) school, and it took many years of practicing to claw my way back to the top of the pile. Lawyers are all about credentials.

Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 09:20 PM (v2K1n)

578 May I vote for e warren please????

Posted by: Blagnog at September 02, 2015 09:21 PM (0kPjF)

579 I bet you watch PBS too.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (z/Ubi)

Exclusively.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:21 PM (AkOaV)

580 Well done. Not guaranteed but a decent shot at a T14 school.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:15 PM (0LHZx)

Thanks.

Yeah, we'll see. Undergrad GPA was not great though, so we'll see. I'm applying to some of the top 14, but I'm not holding out hope.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:22 PM (AkOaV)

581 Take the pledge. I hate trump?!!

Posted by: Blagnog at September 02, 2015 09:22 PM (0kPjF)

582 What nobody got the Cheech and Chong ref? Do I date myself?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:23 PM (BO/km)

583 Unless you will be practicing in the immediate vicinity of the school, you need to go to the most prestigious school you can. I made the mistake of coasting on my LSAT to get a free ride to a good (but not famous) school, and it took many years of practicing to claw my way back to the top of the pile. Lawyers are all about credentials.
Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 09:20 PM (v2K1n)

I plan on staying in NH for a while. Plus there are some fairly prestigious schools in Boston. So that's kind of where my heads at right now.

I guess I'd move if I had to though.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:23 PM (AkOaV)

584 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 02, 2015 09:23 PM (KCxzN)

585 Unless you will be practicing in the immediate vicinity of the school, you need to go to the most prestigious school you can. I made the mistake of coasting on my LSAT to get a free ride to a good (but not famous) school, and it took many years of practicing to claw my way back to the top of the pile. Lawyers are all about credentials.
Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 09:20 PM (v2K1n)

_________

Same applies to bidness school. Unless it's top 20 (maybe 25).....might as well not even bother.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:24 PM (0LHZx)

586 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:18 PM (KrAjA)

I'm not sure. Somewhere in Boston or maybe UNH. Getting my transcripts and recommendations together now and I'll throw some hail marys out there, but I'm thinking my 3.3 undergrad GPA will hold me back from anywhere too good.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:25 PM (AkOaV)

587 By "prestigious" I mean a top 20-25 law school, not just top tier (166 should get you there). But anyone who can't get into a top 50 school should not bother with the wasteland of the legal profession anymore. Make more money in some other profession. The law is not like it used to be in the 70s, 80s, or even 90s.

Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 09:25 PM (v2K1n)

588
Re Dr. Carson: as far as nerve goes this is a man who spent his career
operating on the brains of babies and children and retired with a
stellar reputation. I would say he has to have nerves of steel and the
self confidence to go along with those nerves.

Posted by: Tuna at September 02, 2015 09:14 PM (JSovD)


I expect Carson to come in 1-2 in Iowa, given the evangelical strength there.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 09:26 PM (8zCR+)

589 mynewhandle, don't forget to self-identify as a pansexual otherkin then you should be able to get into a Top 10 school.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:26 PM (0AxXh)

590 >>> Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 08:49 PM (0q2P7)

Re: show breeding, I've heard the same thing about labs. I knew going in about their short life spans and I can handle that. I'll get another Great Dane after I lose her once I'm ready, maybe a boy next time. I specifically got a girl bc every breeder and trainer I spoke to before getting her said girls are more protective and fiercer bc they have the protective instincts of a mother bear with cubs. I know this a gamble and I'll lose her too early, but I'm willing to gamble now that I can afford to.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 09:26 PM (2x3L+)

591 582: I did but, now I forgot what it was man.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 02, 2015 09:26 PM (ucDmr)

592 587 By "prestigious" I mean a top 20-25 law school, not just top tier (166 should get you there). But anyone who can't get into a top 50 school should not bother with the wasteland of the legal profession anymore. Make more money in some other profession. The law is not like it used to be in the 70s, 80s, or even 90s.
Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 09:25 PM (v2K1n)


I'm thinking of doing something boring and corporatey. There seems to be money in that at least. And I'll have some hefty loans to pay off when I get out, too.

But my current career path kind of sucks, so I figure I may as well jump ship now before I have kids and have to, you know, support a family.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:27 PM (AkOaV)

593 Can you take some additional courses to bump that 3.3 up a tenth or two?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:27 PM (0LHZx)

594 "My supreme court nominee would be Judge Reinhold. "


Ummm, he's not really a "judge."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 09:27 PM (agYzy)

595 Carson needs to show some business chops

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:28 PM (Uk9e2)

596 My irony meter blew up a Fetzer valve reading this one.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:10 PM

-----------

Easy fix.
Ball-bearings.

It's all ball-bearings these days.

Posted by: Fletch at September 02, 2015 09:28 PM (7d8Ef)

597 589 mynewhandle, don't forget to self-identify as a pansexual otherkin then you should be able to get into a Top 10 school.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:26 PM (0AxXh)

Well, as a matter of fact, I've lately been identifying as a Genderqueer half Eskimo / half black who identifies as a trans*-woman but is biologically a male attracted to females.

So that's what I'm thinking I'll be going with on my applications.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:28 PM (AkOaV)

598 593 Can you take some additional courses to bump that 3.3 up a tenth or two?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:27 PM (0LHZx)

I'm not sure how. I already have the degree. And as lawyers say, the inks been dry on that motherfucker for a little while now.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:29 PM (AkOaV)

599 I'm not sure. Somewhere in Boston or maybe UNH. Getting my
transcripts and recommendations together now and I'll throw some hail
marys out there, but I'm thinking my 3.3 undergrad GPA will hold me back
from anywhere too good.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:25 PM


Not necessarily. Your LSAT/GPA and mine are identical. I got into BC, which at the time was just inside the top 20 (I haven't checked ratings lately, though). Best of luck with your applications. Keep us posted.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:29 PM (KrAjA)

600 A friend of mine went to law school about 5 years out of college . He went to Vandy, graduated high up in his class, got a job at a fancy schmancy law firm.

So far so good. Until he quickly learned he hated being a lawyer and within 2 years he was out of the profession and back to doing what he did before going to law school.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:30 PM (0LHZx)

601 work the word "genderfluid" in there

you know, to reassure employer types

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:30 PM (Uk9e2)

602 Am I the only one that has noticed that there are new nics showing up, and that they are almost universally sowing "hate GOP" messages? Throwing chum in the water?

Yes, it is entirely possible that they are disaffected Republicans who are looking to vent, but the Left is also adept at seizing opportunity. I feel as strongly as most of you do about the GOPe, but mindless, induced bloodlust is contagious, and isn't a solution. Again, just my thoughts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:31 PM (9mTYi)

603 Oh this will be fun. Rince thinks he can negotiate a deal with Trump. That is totally going to work.

Rince and the RINO gang think they are going to lock Trump into the big tent with them.... only too late will they realize they are the ones locked in with Trump.

Not that either side will consider themselves legally bound by anything signed. Something else Trump knows going in as well as the RINOs, but public relations are another thing entirely and happens to be his wheelhouse.

Truly Trump is the form we have selected for our Destructor. And it is going to be glorious. The Republican Party is going to die and it is going to be as messy as a bad horror film before it is over. FNC and CNN will be covering their cameras in tarps.

Personally I long to wrap my hands around the throats of Progressives, but it is clear that is only possible after first removing the Republicans for they attack from the rear any force we send forth to do battle with our true foes.

Posted by: John Morris at September 02, 2015 09:31 PM (sCRhB)

604 "Well, as a matter of fact, I've lately been identifying as a Genderqueer half Eskimo / half black who identifies as a trans*-woman but is biologically a male attracted to females. "


Just check every box. Who's gonna argue with you?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:31 PM (BO/km)

605 trump makes euniks squeal
Posted by: Feh
---
He makes me sqeal... with delight!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner, System V at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM (OQNx4)

606 Carson needs to show some business chops

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:28 PM (Uk9e2)


All things in time, he's doing quite well so far. Second or third in most polls.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM (8zCR+)

607 Not necessarily. Your LSAT/GPA and mine are identical. I got into BC, which at the time was just inside the top 20 (I haven't checked ratings lately, though). Best of luck with your applications. Keep us posted.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:29 PM (KrAjA)

We'll see. I'm thinking I have a decent chance at BC, they weigh LSATs pretty heavily.

But yeah, will definitely keep you all posted.

...and seriously? You got the exact same score?

Crazy.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM (AkOaV)

608 I'm not sure how. I already have the degree. And as lawyers say, the inks been dry on that motherfucker for a little while now.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:29 PM (AkOaV)

____________

When I was looking to apply to business school I had a couple of not so hot grades. I never did it, but I was told that if I took these classes again, even well past graduating and got As it could help my cause. Kind of showing that hey I was drunk and 19 when I took it and got a C, but now at 23 and sober I can get an A if I actually try....that sort of thing.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM (0LHZx)

609 Just check every box. Who's gonna argue with you?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:31 PM (BO/km)

only a trans*phobic racist would.

At least that's what I'm banking on.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:33 PM (AkOaV)

610 On the plus side, I got my LSAT score back recently -- 166. Pretty happy with that.

Because if there's one thing this world doesn't have enough of, it's lawyers.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:06 PM (AkOaV)


Not bad. You probably got around triple Barky's score and he still got into Hah-vahd Lawn School.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:33 PM (zc3Db)

611 602 Am I the only one that has noticed that there are new nics showing up, and that they are almost universally sowing "hate GOP" messages?



I'm just a sweet tranny mechanny.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:33 PM (BO/km)

612 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM (0LHZx)

Huh. I wasn't aware you could do that. Well, thanks, might be worth looking in to.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:34 PM (AkOaV)

613 So far so good. Until he quickly learned he hated being a lawyer and within 2 years he was out of the profession and back to doing what he did before going to law school.
Posted by: HUCK
---------------------

For a while, I did investigative work for lawyers. I had to quit. It wasn't the work, it was the coldblooded, win-at-any-cost and who-cares-what-is-just-and-what-isn't that got to me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:34 PM (9mTYi)

614 Columba Bush nominated George HW Bush in 1988. In Spanish. While standing on a small burro.

Posted by: Baldy at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (sEXjW)

615 Not bad. You probably got around triple Barky's score and he still got into Hah-vahd Lawn School.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:33 PM (zc3Db)

I would LOVE to know what Obama got on his LSATs -- and SATs for that matter.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (AkOaV)

616 how much to take the lsat? 150?

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (Uk9e2)

617 I hope Trump is in talks with some third party that's on the ballot in many states, like the American Constitution Party, to get their nomination as well as the GOP's.

The GOP couldn't really squawk about that too much, either, seeing as how, for example, Republican congressional candidates from New York usually seek the Conservative Party's nomination in addition to that of the Republican Party.

Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Repugs back off on their demands for a loyalty oath until it's too late for Trump to run third-party.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (wKc1L)

618 I feel as strongly as most of you do about the GOPe, but mindless, induced bloodlust is contagious, and isn't a solution. Again, just my thoughts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:31 PM (9mTYi)


For the Vichy GOP, mindless bloodlust is pretty much the only reasonable solution. They worked hard to earn it, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (zc3Db)

619 Its shit like this that makes me hope when Iran gets the bomb, they nuke DC first.

Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (LvRwF)

620 Trump !!!!!!!!!!!


learn it; live it; love it

Posted by: they guy who exclaims 'Trump' at September 02, 2015 09:36 PM (8CdUx)

621 Huh. I wasn't aware you could do that. Well, thanks, might be worth looking in to.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:34 PM (AkOaV)

_______

Maybe law-yahs aren't so forgiving as evil bidnessmens.

What really pissed me off was when I found out at my wife's college you could retake courses if you got a D or lower and both the old grade and new grade would count in the overall GPA. Which is total bullshit since I couldn't do that and so someone from there competing against me for a spot at law/business school has an advantage.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:36 PM (0LHZx)

622 616 how much to take the lsat? 150?
Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (Uk9e2)

how much money?

Yeah, something like that.

It wasn't unreasonable. I don't remember the exact amount though. I'm sure its on lsac's webpage.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:36 PM (AkOaV)

623 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 08:51 PM (OSs/l)

..,,,

No he isn't and yes they are socialist. Why sit here and pull my hair out over the next 10 years knowing it will happen here? Let's jump to the ending.The Scottish are the nicest people I've ever met and their country is beautiful. I've been more than once.

Posted by: Molly k. at September 02, 2015 09:37 PM (zS+qK)

624 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:36 PM (0LHZx)

Well my undergrad is a BSBA so depending on where I go, I may try to go for a jd / mba. Some schools make you take the GREs, others don't... so we'll see. and we'll see how much more $$ it costs.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:37 PM (AkOaV)

625 The Framers, who worried incessantly about
separation of powers, obviously meant to make nine unelected individuals
with lifetime tenure into the ultimate arbiters of national policy at
all levels.



Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 09:12 PM (noWW6)

Those silly Framers, expecting that the House would actually wield its formidable "power of the purse" to reign in the behaviour of another branch of government, instead of letting an orange drunk lead the country into oblivion!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 02, 2015 09:37 PM (ftVQq)

626 I heard that penis guy took some oath of "please don't hurt us" thing for Trump to sign.

Has he popped up or is he missing, anyone know?

Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 09:38 PM (6Xbsz)

627 William Jennings Bryan ran as both the Democrat candidate and the People's / Populist Party candidate in 1896. ) The Dems and the Populists each had a different candidate for veep)


didn't work out too well...



Posted by: himself at September 02, 2015 09:38 PM (8CdUx)

628 I hope Trump reads a list of all the oaths mouthed by the GOP in the last couple of years and says ok..you do what you said you were going to do and maybe I'll consider your offer.

Posted by: Tuna at September 02, 2015 09:38 PM (JSovD)

629 JD/MBA...you can lose $1B for your clients and defend yourself during the lawsuit. Awesomeness.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:38 PM (0LHZx)

630 Trump should tell them to get 60 Democrat senators to oppose his being the Republican nominee.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (itP1/)

631 I would LOVE to know what Obama got on his LSATs -- and SATs for that matter.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (AkOaV)


I can guarantee you that Barky didn't crack 920 on his SATs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (zc3Db)

632 i think that was before QE, hrothgar

let's ask Vic

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (Uk9e2)

633 629 JD/MBA...you can lose $1B for your clients and defend yourself during the lawsuit. Awesomeness.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:38 PM (0LHZx)

Right?

And hey, seems to have worked out for Romney.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (AkOaV)

634 You know how I know a movie will be a steaming pile of horse manure? When the trailer says 'inspired by real events' or in the case of Troy, inspired by Homer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (0AxXh)

635 I have been using this nic for years and I hate the Gobs Of Poo.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (1ijHg)

636 " I hope Trump reads a list of all the oaths mouthed by the GOP in the last couple of years and says ok..you do what you said you were going to do and maybe I'll consider your offer."

That would be orgasmic, I'm not gonna lie.

Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 09:40 PM (6Xbsz)

637 I can guarantee you that Barky didn't crack 920 on his SATs.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:39 PM (zc3Db)

Haha, I think you get something like 200 points per section just for filling in your name on the answer sheet.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:40 PM (AkOaV)

638 ...and seriously? You got the exact same score?


Crazy.



Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:32 PM


Weird, eh? I even passed the bar on my first shot. Unlike a certain Harvard grad ex-governor I could mention who needed 3 bites at the apple. Just sayin'...

Good luck with BC. It really is a good school, and not all of the professors are communists. Or at least they weren't when I was there. Your results may vary.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:41 PM (KrAjA)

639
Not important: reducing government spending
Important: spending more on national defense than next 8 countries, combined

Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at September 02, 2015 09:41 PM (lU0bX)

640 Good luck with BC. It really is a good school, and not all of the professors are communists. Or at least they weren't when I was there. Your results may vary.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:41 PM (KrAjA)

Thanks. I plan to just keep a low profile wherever I go.

I learned that lesson the hard way in undergrad.

Argue with the professor about politics or whatnot and it can kind of fuck you over.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:42 PM (AkOaV)

641 It really is a good school, and not all of the professors are communists.
----------------

Dammit. Used the September 'One Lonely Night' post last night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:42 PM (9mTYi)

642 602--- Mike Hammer --

Heh.
Similar thoughts here.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 02, 2015 09:43 PM (cN9Sk)

643 "instead of letting an orange drunk lead the country into oblivion!"

Nobody expected the orange boner, confused turtle, and malignant tumor of a president. It's like a perfect storm of destruction.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:43 PM (BO/km)

644 Maybe law-yahs aren't so forgiving as evil bidnessmens.


I'd put lawyers before businessmen in the scale of evil. Bureaucrats too.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 09:43 PM (8zCR+)

645 Haha, I think you get something like 200 points per section just for filling in your name on the answer sheet.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:40 PM (AkOaV)


Yeah ... but you can go lower with wrong answers. The minute Barky said "profit AND earnings ratios" it was clear (as he, evidently, thought that division or a ratio translates to "AND") that he topped out at 420 for his math section - and that would be if he got very, very lucky. Having read a few of his scribblings (his op-eds back in the beginning of his illegitimate tenure) and listening to him mangle the language on a regular basis led me to believe that he could not have scored above 500 for his English section (and probably scored around a 430).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:44 PM (zc3Db)

646 508
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 08:55 PM (LAliD)

You're like Renfield to Moo Moo's Dracula.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 08:58 PM (oVJmc)



Ah, maaaaan.

I want a Renfield.


*kicks dirt*


Jeepers. I never get nuthin'.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2015 09:44 PM (KUa85)

647 Argue with the professor about politics or whatnot and it can kind of fuck you over.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:42 PM (AkOaV)

_________

I had a couple of hard core leftie profs and I argued with them and I got good grades in their classes. One was environmental economics (no surprise there) and another was US Economic History. Back then I guess universities were still places where debate and exchange of ideas was welcome. And by back then I mean 20 years ago.

The crazy thing is my macro economics and statistics prof was a right wing lunatic...at least in relation to all the other profs.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:45 PM (0LHZx)

648 615
I would LOVE to know what Obama got on his LSATs -- and SATs for that matter.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:35 PM (AkOaV)


You're assuming he even took them.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 09:45 PM (sdi6R)

649 #625: Not to mention the power to impeach a Justice.

"It's obvious from this decision you just wrote, Justice Kermit Winkleheimer... a work of staggering stupidity, might I add... that you believe there are no limits on the Supreme Court's power. Have fun explaining that to the Senate, because we're referring you for impeachment."
- A Speaker of the House with at least one ball.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 09:46 PM (wKc1L)

650 If it's the Renfield from Dead and Loving It, you don't want that Renfield.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:46 PM (0AxXh)

651 Considering that it was lawyers that came up with the fucked up ROEs in Iraq and the 'stan, I'm just going to say that I have little respect for lawyers.

Still, good luck, mynewhandle.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (zyIlW)

652 I'd prefer an Igor.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (z/Ubi)

653 Not important: reducing government spending
Important: spending more on national defense than next 8 countries, combined
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at September 02, 2015 09:41 PM (lU0bX)

***

Well then, those other Countries can lookout for themselves completely after Barky has put the Military on a 12/6/41 level of readiness. Right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (Gtd96)

654 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 09:44 PM (zc3Db)

well, its price-earnings ratio first off.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (AkOaV)

655 Is it me or does anyone other than the GOPe think this is a good idea?

Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (6Xbsz)

656 Thanks. I plan to just keep a low profile wherever I go.



I learned that lesson the hard way in undergrad.



Argue with the professor about politics or whatnot and it can kind of fuck you over.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:42 PM


Never a bad idea. I kept my head down mostly, but I had fun with the kids when the ammunition lawsuits got discussed in torts. And my Con Law II professor was a complete commie. Pretty much a clone of Obama. Small class of about 10 kids, one of whom was a conservative from Africa, by way of Texas. Yeah...we had some fun with that guy. Wrong on absolutely everything. To his credit, though, he didn't try to shut us down, and actually graded fairly. I think he left, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (KrAjA)

657 I suppose they think having him run as a 3rd party candidate will somehow neutralize him and pave the way for Jeb! --- but this instead will *guarantee* the Democrat, any freakin' Democrat candidate, will win.

This is so short-sighted I wonder if they want President Hillary.

---

They do want her. They are confident that the whole house of cards is going to come crashing down, and they want to point at the democrats and blame them for it.

While people are literally dying in the streets.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (Qvgg/)

658 651 Considering that it was lawyers that came up with the fucked up ROEs in Iraq and the 'stan, I'm just going to say that I have little respect for lawyers.

Still, good luck, mynewhandle.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (zyIlW)

I mean I'm in sales, it's not like I'm leaving a respectable profession.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (AkOaV)

659 652 I'd prefer an Igor.


Me too. Man what a hump!

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (BO/km)

660 #628 #630: Those are also both excellent options!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (wKc1L)

661 a man who spent his career operating on the brains of babies and children

*****


Should make him uniquely qualified to deal with the media then.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 02, 2015 09:49 PM (mvenn)

662 Profit to earning price to earning....it's all racist gibberish.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:49 PM (0LHZx)

663 I had a couple of hard core leftie profs and I argued with them and I got good grades in their classes. One was environmental economics (no surprise there) and another was US Economic History. Back then I guess universities were still places where debate and exchange of ideas was welcome. And by back then I mean 20 years ago.

The crazy thing is my macro economics and statistics prof was a right wing lunatic...at least in relation to all the other profs.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:45 PM (0LHZx)


I caused a mini revolt in my macro class. Had the whole class calling the adjunct professor a communist and ignoring him. Because, well, he was a communist and worth ignoring. He tried to give us all D's, we had to go to the department head.

Long story short, I got a B.

Which sucks, because I should have got an A.

But yeah, other than that I mostly bit my tongue.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:50 PM (AkOaV)

664 devil comment

Posted by: Mr Wizard at September 02, 2015 09:50 PM (hCdMd)

665 Is it time?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:50 PM (0AxXh)

666 arrrgh

Posted by: Mr Wizard at September 02, 2015 09:50 PM (hCdMd)

667 Wait for it

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:50 PM (0AxXh)

668 Wasn't it in Alabama where the front runner was way too conservative for the GOPe but was a member of the Repubs. They still bent him over, so I'm thinking there's no need to sign a loyalty oath.

Posted by: dogfish at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (jWtyG)

669 The crazy thing is my macro economics and statistics
prof was a right wing lunatic...at least in relation to all the other
profs.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:45 PM (0LHZx)


It would be crazy to find a right wing Prof on almost any campus today.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (8zCR+)

670 Darn it!

Bracketed the target....

*kicks a clod of dirt and is arrested by the EPA for pollution*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (0AxXh)

671 You're assuming he even took them.

Posted by: rickl

Bill Ayers took them for him

Posted by: Mr Wizard at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (hCdMd)

672 But Trump is icky, you guyz!!!!

@cnnbrk CORRECTION: 307,000 veterans died awaiting Veterans Affairs health care, report says. http://cnn.it/1L6zgSY

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (JmGFJ)

673 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (KrAjA)

I'm just looking forward to the whole "living breathing document" part of con law.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:52 PM (AkOaV)

674 I like the way DT told jeb to speak English. Nobody else will say that. They are afraid to say what lots of us are thinking. It's not very presidential though.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:52 PM (BO/km)

675 Because then in contract law, I'll say "no, that's not what this contract says. See, it's a living breathing document..."

Nah.. Can't do that. Gotta get good grades.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (AkOaV)

676 all that's required for evil to triumph etc

and when it does, the good men who did nothing will point and say see?

and they expect us to reward them?

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (Uk9e2)

677
668 Wasn't it in Alabama where the front runner was way too conservative for the GOPe but was a member of the Repubs. They still bent him over, so I'm thinking there's no need to sign a loyalty oath.
Posted by: dogfish at September 02, 2015 09:51 PM (jWtyG)



Murkowski. Arlen Specter. Dick Lugar. Etc.



Yeah it's the outsider candidates that should be signing the loyalty oaths and pledging not to run if they lose the primary.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (z/Ubi)

678 It's not very presidential though.


****

Yeah, tell me about it.

Posted by: Clodhoppers on the Resolute Desk at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (mvenn)

679 I guess I was naive but it didn't even cross my mind that my political views might mean a bad grade. I was also a little surprised when I realized so many profs were lefties, I just assumed (again naively) that smart people couldn't be idiotic leftists and profs were smart right?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (0LHZx)

680 672,

The Veterans' Administration: Giving vets a second chance to die for their country.

*spit*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (zyIlW)

681 Gotta get good grades.
Future so bright, gotta wear shades.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (0AxXh)

682 I mean I'm in sales, it's not like I'm leaving a respectable profession.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:48 PM (AkOaV)

****
Been in Sales my whole career. Companies may or may not be honorable. It is up to the Salesperson whether their career is honorable or not.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (Gtd96)

683 639
Not important: reducing government spending
Important: spending more on national defense than next 8 countries, combined

Posted by: Phyllis Balzac



The fun really starts when the US stops the heavy lifting and those 8 countries have to start spending on there own defense. The vacuum of America's declining power is currently being made. You may not like the outcome. Hell hath no fury than unintended consequences scorned.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (NGd+i)

684 If it's the Renfield from Dead and Loving It, you don't want that Renfield.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 09:46 PM

----------

Love it.

[Asst.]: Oh, McManus, the patient in the West Wing...
[Dr. Seward]: Yes?
[Asst.]: He's 'aving a conniption fit.
[Dr. Seward]: Oh, give him an enema.

[Asst.]: An enema?
[Dr. Seward]: Yes! It'll give him a feeling of accomplishment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX4nLvIP0Q

Posted by: Fletch at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (7d8Ef)

685 Pope Francis probably believes that the Ten Commandments are a living, breathing document.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (sdi6R)

686 679 I guess I was naive but it didn't even cross my mind that my political views might mean a bad grade. I was also a little surprised when I realized so many profs were lefties, I just assumed (again naively) that smart people couldn't be idiotic leftists and profs were smart right?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (0LHZx)

Oh, I was warned in high school.

By a really cool teacher, who was also a (closet) conservative. Retired lawyer, as a matter of fact.

She said, "my husbands a college professor. Trust me, you need to be quiet about your political views if you want to graduate with a good GPA"

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (AkOaV)

687 de-sock

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 09:55 PM (7d8Ef)

688 presidential means what, exactly

conciliatory? passive aggressive?

besides, isn't acting presidential ... premature?

Posted by: Feh at September 02, 2015 09:56 PM (Uk9e2)

689 Been in Sales my whole career. Companies may or may not be honorable. It is up to the Salesperson whether their career is honorable or not.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 09:54 PM (Gtd96)

Well, I suppose the same is true of lawyers and politicians too, but lets face it -- sales people do not have the best reputation.

So much so that I've been in sales for years and worked for several companies in sales roles and yet never had the word "sales" on my business card.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:56 PM (AkOaV)

690 ' presidential means what, exactly'



You know, like classy like. Something we haven't seen for a while.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:57 PM (BO/km)

691 The Veterans' Administration: Giving vets a second chance to die for their country.



*spit*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 09:53 PM (zyIlW)


Well, if they didn't die the first time.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 09:57 PM (8zCR+)

692 Are sales people even called salespeople anymore? It's more like Business Development or some such.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (0LHZx)

693 Heh.
Similar thoughts here.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
----------------

Yeah. I only checked a couple that I had not seen before, and sure enough, new to the list. When the mob starts shouting "Hang 'em, hang 'em!", it's time for a rational person to become introspective. It's easy to join the mob, more difficult to be pragmatically objective.

The thing is, I've been an independent ever since observing the Democratic Convention in '68. I've been subject the crap shoveled out both parties, and owe loyalty to neither, but the process is going to take place, and my intent is take the path that serves the Republic the best.

Somehow, stamping my foot, or holding my breath, or hoping for collapse, doesn't strike me as the right way. There have been too many men who refused to surrender, who did not just throw down their arms because they were being overrun for me to throw down mine and surrender.

I'm ready to let the nomination process work its way through, and to vote in the primaries and general for the person I think best. Saul Bellow once said, "Sooner or later, you have to take whatever weapons you have and march to the front."

I'd be a lot happier if the vitriol was being registered at HuffPo et al towards the Dems.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)

694 Are sales people even called salespeople anymore?


They're a type of weasel.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:59 PM (BO/km)

695 Just kidding guys just kidding!

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 09:59 PM (BO/km)

696 The crazy thing is my macro economics and statistics prof was a right wing lunatic...at least in relation to all the other profs.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:45 PM (0LHZx)


------


I felt like most of my finance and economics professors were at least right leaning, with a few notable exceptions.



I had one guy in particular that made a point of mocking Keynesian theory as an ever increasing pile of garbage, the easier and easier it gets to move money around the globe. That was a while ago, and it hasn't gotten any less true. It's a good one to hold on to when progressives snark and laugh at "old ideas".

Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 09:59 PM (mhkbv)

697 I'd be a lot happier if the vitriol was being registered at HuffPo et al towards the Dems.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)

______

You'd be banned after 3 comments.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:59 PM (0LHZx)

698 Another movie to ignore, Tom Hanks in Bridge of Spies about Francis Gary powers and the Soviet spy who was traded for him.

https://youtu.be/mBBuzHrZBro

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 10:01 PM (0AxXh)

699 Hasn't marketing replaced sales as a buzz-word?

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (8zCR+)

700 I mean I'm in sales, it's not like I'm leaving a respectable profession.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015

Sometimes you say the dumbest, head scratching things

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (OMXTD)

701 cm9000,

Iraq didn't kill me, but I'll be damned if I allow VA to get anywhere near me to finish the task.



Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (zyIlW)

702 You know, like classy like. Something we haven't seen for a while.
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter
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McKinley?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (9mTYi)

703 #690: It means very classy, just incredible. Yuge and fabulous, that's what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (wKc1L)

704 692 Are sales people even called salespeople anymore? It's more like Business Development or some such.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (0LHZx)

Well, I've been an "account manager" an "account executive" and a "specialist" (which I thought was more of a rank than a title, but whatever).

But I had "sales meetings" and "sales managers"

So I dont know.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (AkOaV)

705 "Pope Francis probably believes that the Ten Commandments are a living, breathing document."

Emanations. Penumbras.

Posted by: Pope Francis at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (noWW6)

706 I'm just looking forward to the whole "living breathing document" part of con law.



Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:52 PM


*snort*

Yeah...have fun with that whole "substantive due process" thing. If you want to make heads explode, use Bork's explanation of how Brown v. Board of Ed. could have gotten the same result with an originalist analysis. They'll be cleaning brains out of the light fixtures for weeks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:03 PM (KrAjA)

707 700 I mean I'm in sales, it's not like I'm leaving a respectable profession.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015

Sometimes you say the dumbest, head scratching things
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (OMXTD)

Well that didn't seem civil or organic.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:03 PM (AkOaV)

708 "Been in Sales my whole career."


I'm sorry. Tried sales is a variety of fields. Fair-to-middling but just not me. If you're good at and like it, I guess, it's your thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:03 PM (agYzy)

709 "Sooner or later, you have to take whatever weapons you have and march to the front."

Agreed Mike. It would be nice if that stick had a sharp point though.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 10:04 PM (BO/km)

710 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:03 PM (KrAjA)

I really want to argue that I think Lochner was excellent case law and decided correctly.

But I won't. Probably.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:04 PM (AkOaV)

711 It's not very presidential though.
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter
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Presidents haven't been presidential for as long as I can remember. Jerking off on your mistress' blue dress, or attending a church for 20 years where the pastor says "Gawd Dayum America!" are unpresidential. OTOH, I don't see how Trump calling out Bush on being a pandering douchebag ashamed of his native language is unpresidential. He's merely pointing out a relevant fact in someone running for president. What do you even mean by "presidential"?

And I'm more convincing than Tim Curry.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 10:04 PM (OQNx4)

712 Agreed Mike. It would be nice if that stick had a sharp point though.
Posted by: Dr freakenfurter
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*inventories ordnance*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:05 PM (9mTYi)

713 >>>Misanthropic Humanitarian

But to be fair, I do say dumb things all the time. And I scratch my head a lot.

So, maybe you have a point.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:06 PM (AkOaV)

714 Ooh someone got their panties in a bunch. Something binding sweetheart?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 10:06 PM (BO/km)

715 I work in a printing shop, and while my company started out as a retail printer for the public, years ago we branched out as a printer for the trade, which means that other printers will farm their work out to us (and we farm out some of our work to other printers). We also deal with print brokers, who are salesmen that deal with retail customers, and find the best printer for the job.

So I get to deal with a variety of salesmen. There are some I like and some I don't. There's one guy who I like, but my God, he'll talk your ear off. He's already asking me a second or third question while I'm trying to answer his first one.

I'm not a people person at all. I could never hack being a salesman.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 10:06 PM (sdi6R)

716 At the floor level, "Sales Associates"

Translation: 29 hours/week, constant turnover.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (9mTYi)

717 Iraq didn't kill me, but I'll be damned if I allow VA to get anywhere near me to finish the task.




Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:02 PM (zyIlW)



Stay far away from the VA dear.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (8zCR+)

718 Wow. I left this thread hours ago at work and now I'm home and it's still here. Smells a little, umm, musty.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (75uvI)

719 ONT? *sniff*

Posted by: chemjeff at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (2XMpf)

720 "I do say dumb things all the time."

Well then, you're at the right place. This place makes me feel kinda smart.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (agYzy)

721 Well that didn't seem civil or organic.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:03 PM (AkOaV)

Sue me

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (fgSDS)

722 SMFH, we want you to stick around, plz avoid the VA thx

Posted by: chemjeff at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (2XMpf)

723 There is an American academic who was a grad student in Berlin and was arrested by the commies. He spent I think 2 months in custody and was released with Gary Power. After the statsi archives were opened he went to see why he was arrested. Turned out that his german gf told the stasi he was spying (he wasnt). The signal to arrest him was when she hopped out of bed and opened the curtains. That's when they came busting in.

Bitch Set Me Up!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (iQIUe)

724 Coming really late to this, but... a third party run for Trump may have benefits for him even if he loses. If no one gets to 270 because Trump did what Perot could not (actually win one or more states), he becomes the kingmaker by trading his electors for to the highest bidder for untold favors and sweet sweet graft.

Posted by: Dante at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (+jCL5)

725 I really want to argue that I think Lochner was excellent case law and decided correctly.


But I won't. Probably.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:04 PM


Whatever you do, have fun with it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (KrAjA)

726 Sue me
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:08 PM (fgSDS)

Hah.

Seriously though, you've shot a few sideways comments my way recently -- did I do / say something or are you just being misanthropic in general?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (AkOaV)

727 I'm not a people person at all. I could never hack being a salesman.
Posted by: rickl
------------

And yet... you have sold me on that idea.
This one of those weird reverse psychology things you salespeople use, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (9mTYi)

728 >>>>I like the way DT told jeb to speak English. Nobody else will say that. They are afraid to say what lots of us are thinking. It's not very presidential though.

No, it's not but it's who he is and he owns it. I give him credit for that. Plus he seems to truly enjoy trolling Bush.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (pqgPu)

729 The Italians in WWII.
The WWII French in 1940.
The Argentines in the Falklands War.
The Ethiopians in 1936.
Poland in 1939.
The Iraq Army in 1991 and 2003.

These forces all fought harder and with more success than the GOPe. Just surrender already GOPe, you losers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 02, 2015 10:10 PM (u82oZ)

730 well, its price-earnings ratio first off.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:47 PM (AkOaV)


I didn't even care about that mistake. Your run-of-the-mill imbecile can make that mistake. But to use "AND" to express a ratio ... that is the sort of mind-numbing stupidity that most normal people never even come into contact with. Even giving Barky a ton of slack on the fact taht he didn't know it was "price" to earnings ... or that he was too dumb to realize that profits and earnings are the same thing ... small potatoes compared to the serious stupidity that it takes to say "AND" for the ratio. That made it clear that Barky couldn't handle even the simplest mathematical word problem and pretty solid evidence that 420 was the absolute ceiling (on his best day) for his math SAT score.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:10 PM (zc3Db)

731 #711: And I'm more convincing than Tim Curry.

That'd be a nerp, Bruce. Dr. Frank N. Furter proudly boasted... in song, even... about being "just a sweet transvestite". Whereas Bruce's followers try to claim on his wikipedia page that Bruce has always been a woman, and was just posing as a man in the 1976 Olympics.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 10:10 PM (wKc1L)

732 Whatever you do, have fun with it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:09 PM (KrAjA)

Oh, I plan to.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:10 PM (AkOaV)

733 698: The last movie I saw that I really enjoyed that starred Tom Hanks was Road to Perdition. A strong supporting cast helped. Some guy named Paul Newman. I can't remember when Apollo 13 came out but that was pretty good too.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 02, 2015 10:11 PM (NGd+i)

734 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:10 PM (zc3Db)

Yeah, well, I think it's fair to say that he's not exactly... business savvy.

What was his undergrad major anyways?

Probably something dumb. Like Communications.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:11 PM (AkOaV)

735 So much so that I've been in sales for years and worked for several companies in sales roles and yet never had the word "sales" on my business card.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:56 PM (AkOaV)

*****

Account Executive, Account Manager, Business Development, Customer Engagement....whatever.

I used to be National Sales Manager. I am now National Director of Customer Engagement. What do we do? Sell people stuff. Call it what you will.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:12 PM (f9BrB)

736 Considering that Bruce had actual dick and balls in 1976, I'd say that he faked the funk pretty damn convincingly of being a man.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:12 PM (zyIlW)

737 Question: if Obama can unilateraly classify this treaty as an agreement, then why ever enter in a treaty? Why not call them all agreements and bypass Congress completely and forever? Who would stop him?

Why be so quick to roll over on that issue?

Posted by: Saltydonnie at September 02, 2015 10:12 PM (zBwYh)

738 Well, being male anyways...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:13 PM (zyIlW)

739 The latest invasion of Europe helped out by newspaper photos.

http://tinyurl.com/qbhsvo8

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 10:13 PM (W5DcG)

740 I used to be National Sales Manager. I am now National Director of Customer Engagement. What do we do? Sell people stuff. Call it what you will.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:12 PM (f9BrB)


"National Director of Customer Engagement" does sound more impressive than "salesguy" though.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:13 PM (AkOaV)

741
I'm not sure. Somewhere in Boston or maybe UNH. Getting my
transcripts and recommendations together now and I'll throw some hail
marys out there, but I'm thinking my 3.3 undergrad GPA will hold me back
from anywhere too good.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 09:25 PM

Not necessarily. Your LSAT/GPA and mine are identical. I got into BC, which at the time was just inside the top 20 (I haven't checked ratings lately, though). Best of luck with your applications. Keep us posted.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 09:29 PM (KrAjA)



It really depends on when you applied. An application with those numbers in 2010 would have had a much tougher shot than ten years earlier. Fortunately, the fact that applications to law school have taken a beating lately might help.

If you want to get a sense of what your odds are, when I applied, 1 point on the LSAT usually translated to .1 GPA.

mynewhandle, are you familiar with the site lawschooltransparency.com? If you're going to go to law school, please take a look at that first. That will give you a better sense of what your prospects will be from graduating from a school. Law schools have had a habit of fudging their employment stats significantly. In a fairer world, I honestly think people would have gone to jail for it.

Also, have you spent any at a law firm?

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:14 PM (s4wTA)

742 "These forces all fought harder and with more success than the GOPe. Just surrender already GOPe, you losers. "


To compare thus debases the Italians, French, Ethiopians, Polish, Argentines, and, Iraqis.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:14 PM (agYzy)

743 #718: Oh, that reminds me of a hilarious moment from the manga Yume de Aetara, by Noriyuki Yamahana (by the way, that guy is a Christian, and it comes through in his writing). The heroine was a 24-year-old virgin, and her best friend asked her in an early chapter, "Doesn't it get moldy down there?"

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (wKc1L)

744 Trump...'give me some thing ---anything--to sign and i will sign it AFTER you lying GOPe shit weasels deliver on one fucking thing you promised the people you jerked off to get elected last time.....'

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (34uME)

745 That poor drowned baby's body can and should be laid at the feet of the JEF and Hillary!

Fuckers.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (zyIlW)

746 Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:14 PM (s4wTA)

I'll definitely check the site out.

And the only time I've spent inside law firms was when I was facing criminal charges and needed a lawyer.

Not a big fan of lawyers in general. .

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (AkOaV)

747 What was his undergrad major anyways?

Probably something dumb. Like Communications.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:11 PM (AkOaV)


Not sure, but it was the same as Wayne Allen Root's (who was at Columbia at the same time and said that he never saw Barky there and no one he knew had any recollections of the Indonesian douchebag). Root offered $10,000 for Barky's grades and LSATs because he claimed that he beat Barky on both accounts and didn't get accepted to Hah-vahd Law.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (zc3Db)

748 Heh.

Similar thoughts here.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille

----------------



Yeah. I only checked a couple that I had not seen before, and sure
enough, new to the list. When the mob starts shouting "Hang 'em, hang
'em!", it's time for a rational person to become introspective. It's
easy to join the mob, more difficult to be pragmatically objective.



The thing is, I've been an independent ever since observing the
Democratic Convention in '68. I've been subject the crap shoveled out
both parties, and owe loyalty to neither, but the process is going to
take place, and my intent is take the path that serves the Republic the
best.



Somehow, stamping my foot, or holding my breath, or hoping for
collapse, doesn't strike me as the right way. There have been too many
men who refused to surrender, who did not just throw down their arms
because they were being overrun for me to throw down mine and surrender.



I'm ready to let the nomination process work its way through, and to
vote in the primaries and general for the person I think best. Saul
Bellow once said, "Sooner or later, you have to take whatever weapons
you have and march to the front."



I'd be a lot happier if the vitriol was being registered at HuffPo et al towards the Dems.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)


Some of you guys want to save the Republican Party. Have at it.


Some of us want it dead. And not all of us are noobs to this site.


You can argue all day long if you like, but I've been watching this Party destroy itself. I'm not doing it. They are. And the longer they stick around, the worse it is.

You want to worry about a President Hillery? Great. YOUR Party is allowing the ghouls to slaughter babies and sell the parts.

Tell me why I should give a damn if they keep their cushy jobs, where they can suck the marrow out of dead babies?


Why?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (TOk1P)

749 This is what revolutions/realignments/whatever-you-call-them look like. All this chaos. I knew it was coming with the Crash of '08. After history is written, there will be a nice narrative and each step will make sense. But when you're in the middle of it, it's pure chaos.

These things happen every once in a blue moon in American politics. And a big one is happening now.

Don't sweat it. We'll either emerge stronger than before, or we won't and this "experiment" will come to an end. We'll live or we'll die. No biggie.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 10:16 PM (dvuhZ)

750 Yeah, well, I think it's fair to say that he's not exactly... business savvy.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:11 PM (AkOaV)


To be precise, he's a fucking retard.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:16 PM (zc3Db)

751 The latest invasion of Europe helped out by newspaper photos.

http://tinyurl.com/qbhsvo8


And if you don't like it, here's their response to you.

http://tinyurl.com/qx5ffnt



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 10:18 PM (W5DcG)

752 OT, what a great headline:

Job offer rescinded after applicant sends nude selfie

Peak Stupid

Posted by: t-bird at September 02, 2015 10:18 PM (FcR7P)

753
Hah.

Seriously though, you've shot a few sideways comments my way recently -- did I do / say something or are you just being misanthropic in general?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2

Never ask questions that you don't know the answer to. Oh that's depositions and court rooms. Sometimes your comments IMHO are thought out. For example the sales profession crack. And no, I'm not a salesman

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:18 PM (fgSDS)

754 Considering that Bruce had actual dick and balls in 1976, I'd say that he faked the funk pretty damn convincingly of being a man.
Posted by: SMFH
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I am the greatest female athlete of all time.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 10:19 PM (OQNx4)

755 Job offer rescinded after applicant sends nude selfie

Peak Stupid
Posted by: t-bird at September 02, 2015 10:18 PM (FcR7P)

Ha, wow.

I'd sue for gender discrimination. If a chick set a dude in HR naked selfies, she'd probably be promoted before her first day.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:19 PM (AkOaV)

756 mynewhandle, are you familiar with the site
lawschooltransparency.com? If you're going to go to law school, please
take a look at that first. That will give you a better sense of what
your prospects will be from graduating from a school. Law schools have
had a habit of fudging their employment stats significantly. In a
fairer world, I honestly think people would have gone to jail for it.



Also, have you spent any at a law firm?

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:14 PM


^^^^^ All of this. Make sure you're going into the profession with eyes wide open.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (KrAjA)

757

I'd be a lot happier if the vitriol was being registered at HuffPo et al towards the Dems.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)

The gope will never be any better than it is right now.

This country is destined for a complete social and economic upheaval.

Nothing can stop it.

The only thing that can be done is to prepare and work to guide the changes and guide the recovery.

Stopping it is fantasy smothered in delusion sauce.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (MQEz6)

758 "We'll live or we'll die. No biggie. "


Others have said it better, but, it's funny how this is turning to be a class struggle more than a left/right struggle. The upper/ruling/government class vs. the middle and lower classes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (agYzy)

759 Job offer rescinded after applicant sends nude selfie

Hi, Huma, it's me...

I didn't get the job

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (KCxzN)

760 734
What was his undergrad major anyways?

Probably something dumb. Like Communications.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:11 PM (AkOaV)


Umm...I think Teh Sarah majored in Communications.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (sdi6R)

761 "National Director of Customer Engagement" does sound more impressive than "salesguy" though.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:13 PM (AkOaV)

*****

Hence the reason for the Semantic Idiocy that is my title. I am a Sales guy who has 4 Regional Sales Managers and 12 Sales People who report to me.

Bottom line, all of us are Sales people.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:21 PM (f9BrB)

762 Never ask questions that you don't know the answer to. Oh that's depositions and court rooms. Sometimes your comments IMHO are thought out. For example the sales profession crack. And no, I'm not a salesman
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:18 PM (fgSDS)

...are NOT thought out? Fair enough. I am typing in an internet comment section.

And I'm in sales, I think it's okay for me to say it's not the most reputable profession.

But sorry if you were offended by my self-deprecating humor.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:21 PM (AkOaV)

763 The latest invasion of Europe helped out by newspaper photos.



http://tinyurl.com/qbhsvo8





Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 10:13 PM (W5DcG)


Funny how immigration only goes one way. Into the racist, Imperialist West.




Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 10:22 PM (8zCR+)

764 #758: Yep, that's the way I see it. Trump vs. the GOPe = Us vs. Them.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 10:22 PM (wKc1L)

765 Hi, Huma, it's me...

I didn't get the job


Thread Weiner!

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 10:22 PM (BO/km)

766 Umm...I think Teh Sarah majored in Communications.
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 10:20 PM (sdi6R)

*****

So did my Ex. Got an MBA in it even. Did not stop her from being really, really bad at Communicatating. (Intentional)

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:23 PM (f9BrB)

767 And the only time I've spent inside law firms was when I was facing criminal charges and needed a lawyer.

Not a big fan of lawyers in general. .
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:15 PM (AkOaV)



I recommend finding a way to work for one, even as an intern, whether in your spare time, the summer beforehand, weekends, whatever, just so you know what you're getting into. Whatever people say, law degrees really aren't translatable into other fields--so, know what you're getting yourself into and that you'll actually like it.

Also, I'll second what somebody said earlier: If you go, go to either one of the very top national schools or the most prestigious school in your area. I'm not saying it's fair, but the legal field is snobby as hell. Law school grades also aren't as predictable as undergrad, so you can't have as much faith in just putting your nose to the grindstone at a lower ranked school and acing all your tests--everybody's going to show up to your school with the intention of being in the top 10%.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:23 PM (s4wTA)

768 But sorry if you were offended by my self-deprecating humor.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10

I didn't see it. My bad.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:24 PM (fgSDS)

769 This kind of silliness is going to end the same way it has throughout history:

-'People' (as in, non-elites) will start noticing how much of a pain in the ass elites are becoming.

-This will start with a basic ignoring of the power structures the elites bring to bear, and will escalate to active rebellion (social, financial, and finally physical) until the elites are brought back within acceptable boundaries.

Same dynamic happens within smaller structures as it does across larger constituencies, like countrys.

Just slower (or much faster) sometimes, and in different regions.

Posted by: The Ban Nail at September 02, 2015 10:26 PM (k/ikp)

770 Also, I'll second what somebody said earlier: If you go, go to either one of the very top national schools or the most prestigious school in your area. I'm not saying it's fair, but the legal field is snobby as hell. Law school grades also aren't as predictable as undergrad, so you can't have as much faith in just putting your nose to the grindstone at a lower ranked school and acing all your tests--everybody's going to show up to your school with the intention of being in the top 10%.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:23 PM (s4wTA)

True.

Yeah, I mean all good advice, I appreciate it.

And I've been working on getting a job with a big firm in NH -- I have a pretty good "in" at one.

But at the end of the day, my real goal would be to work for my old company or a similar sized corporation signing off on contracts, responding to RFQs, etc. I basically did that role as a salesperson, then handed the paperwork to the lawyer who made $200,000 a year to sign a paper with all boilerplate language and work from home 4 days a week.

And I'm weird in that I actually enjoy reading contracts.

But we'll see.

I'm not really much of a "career planner" type. More of a go with the flow type.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:26 PM (AkOaV)

771 749 This is what revolutions/realignments/whatever-you-call-them look like. All this chaos. I knew it was coming with the Crash of '08. After history is written, there will be a nice narrative and each step will make sense. But when you're in the middle of it, it's pure chaos.

These things happen every once in a blue moon in American politics. And a big one is happening now.

Don't sweat it. We'll either emerge stronger than before, or we won't and this "experiment" will come to an end. We'll live or we'll die. No biggie.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 10:16 PM (dvuhZ)


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We're already at the point where the government is largely viewed as illegitimate, and that is only going to grow. They are trying to do a slow bleed on our finances, in a number of different ways, to keep things contained under the surface. The entitlements are coming to a crash course with reality, and all it takes are the young people in the next generation or 2 to get the shaft. That is going to happen. The young will be paying for our sins with no prospects for a renewal, and with a government that is effectively one party in action. It will happen.



No guarantees what comes next is going to be any better, or that we will be purified in any way. Great odds, with our education system, that what comes next will be worse.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 10:28 PM (mhkbv)

772 I did the whole pre-law thing as an undergrad, took the LSAT (got a 42, I think they changed the scale) -- then I interned in a law firm. Bailed on that and never looked back.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:28 PM (ztOda)

773 " This kind of silliness is going to end the same way it has throughout history: "

Yes. It's a movie we've all seen many times but somehow, someway the instigators have never learned the lesson. They always think it will work this time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:29 PM (agYzy)

774 People of Color all over the world are flocking into white western nations. The reverse is practically nonexistent. But racism.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 10:30 PM (8zCR+)

775 Job offer rescinded after applicant sends nude selfie

That used to lock things up for marketing girls, back in the day.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:31 PM (ztOda)

776 Here's the deal the GOPe just finally needs to come to grips with, and which Trump's rapid rise shows--history shows "nativist" movements never win popularity races with elites or historians, but they usually win elections. At least for a while. And in a way that often sweeps away all who oppose, as a backlash happens. In the 1850s, the Know-Nothings started racking up state-level victories that only the slavery crisis really averted (causing them to be subsumed in the nascent GOP); in the 1920s immigration was stopped dead. Dead.

What's Trump's poll percentage again, for a guy everyone admits is a blowhard, adulterer, loudmouth, etc. etc. And someone who truly is a RINO? Except, by being with the people on one thing, he may be the most Republican candidate of all right now.

American history shows that when the people get fed up with immigration they consider too massive, they shut it down. That is what is going to happen again; all the GOPe needs to ask itself if it wants a firing squad or a hanging, because it ain't winning, and it may have already blown its chance of surviving the blowback.

Posted by: Horatius at September 02, 2015 10:31 PM (UKhBB)

777 Yeah, I mean all good advice, I appreciate it.


Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:26 PM


Well, if we ever get around to having another NEMoMee, we can fill your ears with all kinds of advice and war stories. That sort of thing always goes better with drinks, anyway.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2015 10:32 PM (KrAjA)

778 I'm not really much of a "career planner" type. More of a go with the flow type.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:26 PM (AkOaV)

******

$200K jobs signing off on contracts are not the gigs newbie Lawyers get. Whoever is doing that spent years eating Raman and sweating loans.

Please, please intern somewhere before making this time and cash investment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:33 PM (f9BrB)

779 But at the end of the day, my real goal would be to work for my old company or a similar sized corporation signing off on contracts, responding to RFQs, etc. I basically did that role as a salesperson, then handed the paperwork to the lawyer who made $200,000 a year to sign a paper with all boilerplate language and work from home 4 days a week.

Then I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know, but talk to the in-house guys at your firm about what they did and the odds. Also, as much fun as it would be, don't count on the 4 days from home bit.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:33 PM (s4wTA)

780 745
Perfect symbol of what this presidency hath wrought.

Posted by: Tuna at September 02, 2015 10:33 PM (JSovD)

781 758: Yep, that's the realignment part. The old coalitions, who is "us" and who is "them" change and rearrange.

The left-right axis is a gross oversimplification anyway. You need more than one dimension to plot someone's position in the political space. And a lot more than one, really. The current dynamic exposes that oversimplification. You can't explain the current fault lines using it.

Trump has exposed a lot of stuff, and I realize now that our own "conservative elite" are as bad as the proggies. They went to the same schools and have the same elite disdain for flyover country as any limousine liberal ever did.

That stupid left-right axis would plot us close together. But plot us properly on a multi-D chart and you'd see just how far apart we really are.

They are "international" and despise nationalism as much as any lefty, for instance.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 10:34 PM (dvuhZ)

782 So if Jenner has claimed to be conservative, whom does he support in the current field? Has he discussed it on his show?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 10:35 PM (OQNx4)

783
Imagine what that would to today's technology....


A coronal discharge like that - today - would wind up killing the majority of the people in the US. When the power grid goes down - so does water and sewage treatment. Food spoils without refrigeration, refineries shut down, trucks and cars stop running. We would essentially be knocked back into the 18th century. 18th century technology can't support very big cities. Food riots all over the country - millions and millions dead. There is a reason the first thing the US military does in a war is knock out the electrical power system.


Posted by: An Observation at September 02, 2015 10:37 PM (DaJsB)

784 g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 02, 2015 10:37 PM (KCxzN)

785 "That stupid left-right axis would plot us close together. But plot us properly on a multi-D chart and you'd see just how far apart we really are. "


Good words, publius.

It's not conservative vs. liberal anymore. It's much more than that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:37 PM (agYzy)

786 783,

Yep.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (zyIlW)

787 Then I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know, but talk to the in-house guys at your firm about what they did and the odds. Also, as much fun as it would be, don't count on the 4 days from home bit.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 10:33 PM (s4wTA)

Ha, yeah, that all came with seniority. The juniorer lawyers have to actually work. But I don't mind working.

But my point is I'm not really planning on going "big law firm" route.

But we'll see. Like I said, I have no idea. I'll take it as it comes.

I'm sure I'll have real questions and be more "invested" in the process as it all becomes more real to me. Right now, I'm still in the "I did surprisingly well on the LSATs and am happy" stage. Not the "lawyerin' sucks as much as any other job" stage.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (AkOaV)

788 There isn't going to be any "revolution" and "the people" aren't going to rise up for anything.

We've seen this kind of delusion before. People who can't wrap their minds around the fact that they are a small minority and their priorities aren't important to the majority of the public often run on about "revolutions" and such things. It's empty talk and always has been throughout our country's history.

The system is designed, intentionally, to stifle such movements before they begin. Blame James Madison.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (ljZD2)

789 782 So if Jenner has claimed to be conservative, whom does he support in the current field? Has he discussed it on his show?
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner


21st century schiziod man much?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (BO/km)

790 Is there a COB walkout for more boobies and kittne links in the ONTs?

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:39 PM (ztOda)

791 "Law school grades also aren't as predictable as undergrad, so you can't
have as much faith in just putting your nose to the grindstone at a
lower ranked school and acing all your tests--everybody's going to show
up to your school with the intention of being in the top 10%."

And then of course at certain schools you will have some guy show up who would never even have come close to being admitted via objective meritocratic admissions, and that guy will immediately be named the president of the law review, and he won't do a lick of the actual work himself. Won't even submit a signed article under his own name. Oh, and he'll be excused from performing the normal law school course load on the basis of "his obvious brilliance", and nevertheless be awarded top grades for the work he didn't do.

Not that any of this would ever happen in reality. Heavens no.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 10:39 PM (noWW6)

792 It's not conservative vs. liberal anymore. It's much more than that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:37 PM (agYzy)

****

Real simple. Minus any significant changes, it is Us VS. Them.

We are at end stage.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:40 PM (f9BrB)

793 The system is designed, intentionally, to stifle such movements before they begin. Blame James Madison.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (ljZD2)

Hi trumpetdaddy.

By James Madison, you mean the guy was part of a small minority whose priorities weren't important to the majority of the public and who ran on about "revolutions" and such things?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:40 PM (AkOaV)

794 Hopefully I won't get banned for skipping 780 comments and only skimming the main post...

Trump need merely ask that the RNC pledge not to tamper in any shape or form, direct or indirect, with the selection process.

RNC won't. So whenever the trump card needs to be played he can state that RNC refused to pledge not to tamper with the nomination. Or that they broke their end of the deal and 'defaulted' on the contract... because one way or another RNC will (already have) tamper with the process.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 02, 2015 10:41 PM (NaeCR)

795 The bottom line is that the Term Limit Amendment needs to regain its fire. I'd like to see it partnered with repealing the election of Senators and a requirement that Representative campaigns are funded by individuals (not business, PACs, unions, bundlers, etc.) living within the Representative's district only. This is the only way that we, The People, will break the special interest stranglehold on both parties.

Posted by: rabidfox at September 02, 2015 10:41 PM (qkVCT)

796 Posted by: rabidfox at September 02, 2015 10:41 PM (qkVCT)

While I dislike the 30-year Senators as much as the next guy, why would "you're limited to 12 years, then you can go make $5 million a year in a no show lobbying job" change anything?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:42 PM (AkOaV)

797 "By James Madison, you mean the guy was part of a small minority whose
priorities weren't important to the majority of the public and who ran
on about "revolutions" and such things?"

Unless you have a foreign power hostile to the current government that is willing to provide troops and materiel to facilitate your revolution, as the Founders relied upon the French to do, yeah, I think your attempted analogy breaks down right there.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:44 PM (ljZD2)

798 "We are at end stage."


I believe you are right. We are headed toward a "correction." What it looks like yet is to be seen.

Gird your loins.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:44 PM (agYzy)

799 OT: You guys see this wapo story about Hillary's tech guy?

Yeah, the guy who set up her server was a former Hillary 2008 staffer who ... wait for this... WORKED AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT at the time.

Yikes.

Also, he's pleadin the fizzif

http://tinyurl.com/ohm846y

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:44 PM (AkOaV)

800 The system is designed, intentionally, to stifle such movements before they begin. Blame James Madison.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:38 PM (ljZD2)

****

People such as yourself encourage and perpetuate such activity with posts like this.

So, allow me to elegantly tell you that The Turtle and Orange Man are quite anxious to see you return for their usual servicing.

Hurry along now, the Masters will not be pleased if they have to wait much longer for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM (f9BrB)

801 781
I realize now that our own "conservative elite" are as bad as the proggies. They went to the same schools and have the same elite disdain for flyover country as any limousine liberal ever did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 10:34 PM (dvuhZ)



I remarked recently that I think the word "conservative" is largely used as a lazy catchword for a variety of principles, such as individual liberty, free-market capitalism, limited Constitutional government, rule of law, traditional social and moral values, etc.

Many conservatives seem to assume that everybody understands that, but they don't. The Left paints conservatives as racist haters who want the poor to die in the gutter and can't stand to see anybody having fun. And it works.

So conservatives need to drop that word and start talking about specifics. Explain why the free market is better than socialism, why equality before the law is better than the whims of governing elites, why traditional moral values are better than licentiousness, and so forth.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM (sdi6R)

802 mtnewhandle - will your company pay you as a commision only/part-time guy while your doing the law school gig. Or, better yet, help you pay for it (as a teax write-off) while you're there. The stigmata associated with not going to name school isn't there if you did the degree while working for your employer.

I hire people, a resume that says: "I have 15 years of in-field experience, have closed a $100M in sales over a decade, and I picked up a law degree (from Yippee U) at night so my responsibilities could expand ..." is worth a hell of a lot more than "I was in the top 1/3 of my Harvard Law class; but have never worked a real job in my life."

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM (ztOda)

803 While I dislike the 30-year Senators as much as the next guy, why would "you're limited to 12 years, then you can go make $5 million a year in a no show lobbying job" change anything?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:42 PM


You're not a vampire, are you? If you were, you would understand the value of new, fresh, tasty blood.

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM (iMxBJ)

804 By James Madison, you mean the guy was part of a small minority whose priorities weren't important to the majority of the public and who ran on about "revolutions" and such things?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:40 PM (AkOaV)


No. Trumpetdaddy is talking about the other James Madison.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:46 PM (zc3Db)

805 The Iran deal is, in absolute fact, a good agreement. It's good in the fact that it has unapologetically backed Israel into a corner. To clarify, it is so inept, impotent, counter to what is truly needed that the ultimate result will be good.

Iran is going to get smoked. Israel will have no choice....and there isn't anything anyone can do about it other that point a finger at Israel and call them every name in the book....which is already being done.

Bye bye Iran...nice knowing you.

Posted by: OrsonSnow at September 02, 2015 10:48 PM (jAh7g)

806 So if Jenner has claimed to be conservative, whom does he support in the current field? Has he discussed it on his show?
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 10:35 PM
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Well he claimed to be a Republican...

Posted by: TJ Camper, Picker of Nits at September 02, 2015 10:48 PM (7d8Ef)

807 Over at Warm Flatus, they quoted some piece from a dude who said the "nativist" movement of the 20s, that killed immigration, was responsible for Dem domination from FDR on to Reagan. Ergo, IF YOU DON'T GIVE US MOAR OPENBORDER, then DEMO RULE! Idiots.

If you look at Trump on that stupid 1D left-right axis, you can't understand why a large fraction of so-called conservatives support him. It doesn't make sense. But properly plot on the real multi-D chart, and you'd see how close together they really are. The coordinates they are close on don't exist in the minds of the GOPe and elites, they being so opposed to them, they've stifled any mention of them.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 10:48 PM (dvuhZ)

808 802I hire people, a resume that says: "I have 15 years of in-field experience, have closed a $100M in sales over a decade, and I picked up a law degree (from Yippee U) at night so my responsibilities could expand ..." is worth a hell of a lot more than "I was in the top 1/3 of my Harvard Law class; but have never worked a real job in my life."
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM


But what about a top-level resume, that says "I headed the Law Review and never wrote a single article. I "wrote" a couple of ghost-written books that built my intellectual reputation. And the crease on my pants is razor-sharp." Could you resist that?

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 10:48 PM (iMxBJ)

809 as the Founders relied upon the French to do,

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:44 PM (ljZD2)


Yeah ... the French were so important and their help was so timely ... the Revolution could certainly not have kicked off without them ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:49 PM (zc3Db)

810 Well he claimed to be a Republican...
Posted by: TJ Camper, Picker of Nits


So did Lowell Weicker

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 10:50 PM (W5DcG)

811 Unless you have a foreign power hostile to the current government that is willing to provide troops and materiel to facilitate your revolution, as the Founders relied upon the French to do, yeah, I think your attempted analogy breaks down right there.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy


The GOP base has at its disposal more men and money than the French contribution to the Revolutionary war by 100x of times.

Your analogy is vacant in numerous ways.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 10:50 PM (JmGFJ)

812 The system was setup by a two sets of financial elites (Southern Landowners and Northern Merchants) who didn't trust each other; but, who were both afraid of the 'over-the-mountain' boys with guns. Not much has changed.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:50 PM (ztOda)

813 Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:45 PM (ztOda)

It's complicated, but that wouldn't work. Already looked in to that angle.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:51 PM (AkOaV)

814 810 Well he claimed to be a Republican...
Posted by: TJ Camper, Picker of Nits
So did Lowell Weicker
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 10:50 PM


That's just wrong. People should not claim to be Republican when they really aren't.

Posted by: Charlie Crist at September 02, 2015 10:51 PM (iMxBJ)

815 NYTimes:

A former aide to Hillary Rodham Clinton who helped set up the server that housed Mrs. Clinton's private email account plans to invoke his Fifth Amendment rights in response to congressional questions about the email practices, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 02, 2015 10:51 PM (e8kgV)

816 An HQ commenter opined that Jenner said he was a Republican because he planned to have a phoney change of heart on the show and support the Dems.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 10:52 PM (7eC3Q)

817 While I dislike the 30-year Senators as much as the
next guy, why would "you're limited to 12 years, then you can go make $5
million a year in a no show lobbying job" change anything?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:42 PM (AkOaV)

Dilution is the solution to pollution.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 02, 2015 10:52 PM (NaeCR)

818 Yeah ... the French were so important and their help was so timely ... the Revolution could certainly not have kicked off without them ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:49 PM (zc3Db)

Le shot heard around Le Monde.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:52 PM (AkOaV)

819 Yeah, the guy who set up her server was a former Hillary 2008 staffer
who ... wait for this... WORKED AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT at the time.



I'm starting to think the e-mail thing is a distraction from the real scandal of the Foundation and the hundreds of millions in bribes. That is how the Clinton's roll.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 10:53 PM (8zCR+)

820 A former aide to Hillary Rodham Clinton who helped set up the server that housed Mrs. Clinton's private email account plans to invoke his Fifth Amendment rights in response to congressional questions about the email practices, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 02, 2015 10:51 PM (e8kgV)


he doesn't have to resort to the 5th. He can just claim "bathroom privileges" and not talk about it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:53 PM (zc3Db)

821
Well he claimed to be a Republican...
Posted by: TJ Camper, Picker of Nits at September

Jim Jeffords comes to mind

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 10:53 PM (fgSDS)

822 What was his undergrad major anyways?
-------

Obama?
Poli-Sci. Bet on it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (9mTYi)

823 "Yeah ... the French were so important and their help was so timely ... the Revolution could certainly not have kicked off without them ..."



Yes, ALL revolutions, everywhere have relied upon a foreign power somewhere else to succeed. Every time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (agYzy)

824 No. Trumpetdaddy is talking about the other James Madison.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:46 PM (zc3Db)

Oh, the fratdog who James Madison University, which is full of hot southern chicks, was named after?

Oh wait -- no, I think that's the same guy.

Who can tell -- all these dead white guys look alike to me.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (AkOaV)

825 Off topic, but I'm glad to see Harris Faulkner has finally had it with people naming toys after her.

Posted by: boy roy feed my boy at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (WhfU/)

826 823 Yes, ALL revolutions, everywhere have relied upon a foreign power somewhere else to succeed. Every time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (agYzy)


No hot-and-sour soup for you!

Posted by: Mao Zedong at September 02, 2015 10:55 PM (iMxBJ)

827 Could you resist that?

I hired a Yalie a few years back, just so I could humiliate and fire him. Pompous arrogant ass peacocked around for six weeks, then we hammered his work product, his attention to detail, and his inability to work with others. Went back to hiring hard science kids out of W&M.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:55 PM (ztOda)

828 Dilution is the solution to pollution.

Posted by: Burnt Toast


Ok, first, increase the number of Congressional seat to reflect the increase in pop. since the 1st Congress.

Term limits won't dilute much because they will turn Super-PACs into Insane Clown Posse PACs.. on steriods ... and acid... and Red Bull... and FourLoco...

True dilution would mean a Congress numbering in the mid-1000s.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 10:56 PM (JmGFJ)

829 827 I hired a Yalie a few years back, just so I could humiliate and fire him. Pompous arrogant ass peacocked around for six weeks, then we hammered his work product, his attention to detail, and his inability to work with others. Went back to hiring hard science kids out of W&M.
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:55 PM (ztOda)


You did a public service to the rising generations. I tip my hat to you.

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 10:57 PM (iMxBJ)

830 Obama?
Poli-Sci. Bet on it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (9mTYi)

*****

Come on. If he even graduated, there has to be a Social something in front of his degree.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:58 PM (f9BrB)

831 Save us Obi-Maet Kenobi, you're our only hope.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:58 PM (AkOaV)

832 I thought James Madison was the messy sportswriter who declared war on Britain?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 10:59 PM (7eC3Q)

833 According to some rando comment on the internet (which seems just as legit as a MSM source) "Obama studied for two years at Occidental College in California and then transferred to Columbia University where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations."

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:59 PM (AkOaV)

834 832 I thought James Madison was the messy sportswriter who declared war on Britain?
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 10:59 PM (7eC3Q)

No, I think he's the guy who ran a cult and wanted to start a race war and was in to the Beatles.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (AkOaV)

835 I hired a Yalie a few years back, just so I could humiliate and fire him. Pompous arrogant ass peacocked around for six weeks, then we hammered his work product, his attention to detail, and his inability to work with others. Went back to hiring hard science kids out of W&M.
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 10:55 PM (ztOda)

***

You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (f9BrB)

836 Come on. If he even graduated, there has to be a Social something in front of his degree.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
----------------
*scurries off to see what the Ministry of Information claims*
MoI (aka, CBS) claims Poli-Sci. You can smell it on his breath, even while he's on TV.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (9mTYi)

837 Hillary will be be able to dismiss the email thing as old news while the real scandal of the Foundation goes under the radar with the assistance of the MFM.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 11:01 PM (8zCR+)

838 "Specialization in International Relations"

Huh.

Fucker had to have flunked.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 11:01 PM (zyIlW)

839 830 Come on. If he even graduated, there has to be a Social something in front of his degree.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:58 PM


Poli Sci is the new gut major, for people who don't want to out themselves as SJWs, or who really aren't, but don't belong in college.

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 11:01 PM (iMxBJ)

840 Obama went to Accidental College and smoked Colombian.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 11:01 PM (W5DcG)

841 Splurge, customer was a Yale grad - so we had a guy who thought kissing his ass was a good idea. But, there was a huge gulf in the academic product Yale produced in 1957 and 1999. The old school Yalie was appalled by the guy's work. That alone sealed his fate. I predicted it, kept the second candidate around on a string of contract work, which he excelled at -- then brought him right in before the jackass' had his desk cleared.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (ztOda)

842 "Obama studied for two years at Occidental College
in California and then transferred to Columbia University where he
majored in political science with a specialization in international
relations."

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 10:59 PM (AkOaV)
"where he
majored in political science with a specialization in trans-national socialism."
fixed

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (NaeCR)

843 797
"By James Madison, you mean the guy was part of a small minority whose

priorities weren't important to the majority of the public and who ran

on about "revolutions" and such things?"

Unless you have a
foreign power hostile to the current government that is willing to
provide troops and materiel to facilitate your revolution, as the
Founders relied upon the French to do, yeah, I think your attempted
analogy breaks down right there.
----------

Oh look, the present-day Tory of 1776 is saying we shouldn't bother to change things and just learn to love the political pronouncement of our betters. They know more about what we want and need than we do. We'll never get anywhere if we try to change things ourselves. We will need the help of the French.


Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (ry4ab)

844 "The GOP base has at its disposal more men and money than the French contribution to the Revolutionary war by 100x of times."


And yet, actual Republican voters continue to not vote for the fringe candidates that the internet message board "base" prefer in election after election after election after election.

What gives with that?

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (ljZD2)

845 841 But, there was a huge gulf in the academic product Yale produced in 1957 and 1999.

Few things could be as emphatically true as that statement.

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 11:03 PM (iMxBJ)

846 You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (f9BrB)


I think it was great.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 11:03 PM (zc3Db)

847 830
Come on. If he even graduated, there has to be a Social something in front of his degree.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 10:58 PM (f9BrB)


More likely a Studies after it.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:03 PM (sdi6R)

848 Is this the ONT?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:03 PM (i23N/)

849 You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Nope, enjoyed every fucking minute of it.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:04 PM (ztOda)

850 We will need the help of the French.


Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (ry4ab)

Well to be fair, no one's ever lost money betting against the French and their military prowess, so I can see how that could have been somewhat worrying to people.

"Revolution! Hell yeah man! LETS DO THIS!!!

Wait, what? Did you say THE FRENCH? Ehhhh... Welll.... hmmm... going to have to sleep on this one."

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:04 PM (AkOaV)

851 And yet, actual Republican voters continue to not vote for the fringe candidates that the internet message board "base" prefer in election after election after election after election.

What gives with that?
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:02 PM (ljZD2)

****

Really? When have they been given that opportunity?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (f9BrB)

852 823
"Yeah ... the French were so important and their help was so timely ...
the Revolution could certainly not have kicked off without them ..."







Yes, ALL revolutions, everywhere have relied upon a foreign power somewhere else to succeed. Every time.
------------

As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (ry4ab)

853 No, I think he's the guy who ran a cult and wanted to start a race war and was in to the Beatles.
Yeah, that's him. My mistake. And, you know, he's not guilty because he didn't actually kill anyone himself just like that suicide-encouraging chick.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (7eC3Q)

854 Yes, ALL revolutions, everywhere have relied upon a foreign power somewhere else to succeed. Every time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:54 PM (agYzy)


-----


We've had it quite good for 150 years. It is fragile. If you look about anywhere else in the world, then it really highlights it. It's insane to ignore our obligations in debts and entitlements, then our average lifespans and birthrates, and laugh it off as impossible. Our demographics are on a collision course with disaster, and I'm talking about age and entitlement obligations.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (mhkbv)

855 You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (f9BrB)

Who cares....it's funny.

And....you clearly don't know any recent Yale grads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (Zu3d9)

856 political science with a specialization in international
relations."


I have one of those, too. With a math kicker. I suspect the class loads were a bit different. Our field work was at SOA.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (ztOda)

857 ---
816 An HQ commenter opined that Jenner said he was a Republican because he planned to have a phoney change of heart on the show and support the Dems.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 10:52 PM (7eC3Q)

-------------

What I really hope (not holding my breath, though) is that Jenner plays this out as long as possible (without chopping things off) and then says: "HOH LEEE SHIIIIIT!!! I can't believe you retards fell for that! I did it all for the money and the lulz." Then Bruce brings out his own camera crew who's been taping him ridiculing the whole thing all along. Now THAT would be a reality show.

Posted by: irright at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (DtNNC)

858 852
As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves.
Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (ry4ab)


Well, they were sort of inspired by the American Revolution and Thomas Paine.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

859 And yet, actual Republican voters continue to not vote for the fringe candidates that the internet message board "base" prefer in election after election after election after election.

What gives with that?

Posted by: trumpetdaddy


Because you haven't poked them in the chest enough.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (JmGFJ)

860 Yale 1950: Graduated William F Buckley
Yale 2015: http://dwighthall.org/socialjustice/

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (iMxBJ)

861 853 No, I think he's the guy who ran a cult and wanted to start a race war and was in to the Beatles.
Yeah, that's him. My mistake. And, you know, he's not guilty because he didn't actually kill anyone himself just like that suicide-encouraging chick.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (7eC3Q)

That's true. And, yeah, I think it's fucked up that he stole that song from the Chiffons and turned it in to a Buddhist rant, too.

But hey, lifes not fair.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (AkOaV)

862 You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Nope, enjoyed every fucking minute of it.
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:04 PM (ztOda)

***

Wow. A normal person would just shitcan their resume and not hire them.

You seem like you are a little "special" if that got your rocks off so much.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (f9BrB)

863 "Really? When have they been given that opportunity?"

Well, I'd love to know which candidate you think was denied his chance to be voted upon.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (ljZD2)

864 Save us, ONT, you're our only hope!

Posted by: Lauren at September 02, 2015 11:08 PM (GZ6Pf)

865 Well, they were sort of inspired by the American Revolution and Thomas Paine.
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

Ooh, I'm not sure if we want to be taking credit for the French Revolution.

That didn't play out as well as it could have.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:08 PM (AkOaV)

866 As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (ry4ab)


Of course, being French they totally fucked that up. They had the benefit of having seen our Revolution and decided to prove that they were better than us and more perfect ... so they went on to have a totally chaotic revolution, followed by insane terror, horrors and barbaric savagery committed in the name of "rationality" and finally ended up with a pint-sized emperor. The French ... they can fuck up anything.

Just be glad that their stupid Revolutionary Calendar (designed just to destroy the Church and Western religion) didn't make it ... yet.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 11:08 PM (zc3Db)

867 "As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves. "




That was my point. An over-hanging dynasty can be taken down in-house.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 11:09 PM (agYzy)

868 If I can remember, the Founders saw two extremes with the rep/population ratio, the "cabal of the few" vs "raw faction". If the ratio was too small, you'd get a corrupt oligarchy. Too large, and raw factions (special interests) would be represented directly. They wanted every rep to have to deal with the competing interests himself, in his own district, rather than simply representing that interest directly.

The way it worked out though, they got an upper limit on it, (<= 1/30K, I believe), but no lower limit. So they got a limit on "raw faction" but not the cabal of the few.

Note you can think of the ratio two ways, the above or the reciprocal, the pop to rep ratio. When you do that, upper and lower limits get reversed and it can be confusing.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 02, 2015 11:09 PM (dvuhZ)

869 Well, they were sort of inspired by the American Revolution and Thomas Paine.

Posted by: rickl


Oddly enough, their revolution was precipitated in part by the debt they incurred aiding us.

Their Betters gambled and lost.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:09 PM (JmGFJ)

870 I used to think Republicans were smarter than than the Democrats. Key word "used." Now I realize the are just as many LIVs on my side.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 11:09 PM (8zCR+)

871 #816: I don't know about that. A lot of athletes tend toward the conservative / Republican side of bicameral politics because all that really matters in sports is the final score. Did you win, or did you lose? Can you get things done for your team, or should they replace you with someone who can?

Affirmative action didn't help the Seahawks against the Patriots in the latest Super Bowl, for example. It didn't matter how much the Seahawks deserved to win; when the game came down to the wire, they didn't win.

Athletes are big on meritocracy. "Yeah, you beat us today... but just wait until next year!"

The NBA is an outlier in this; most NBA players are Democrats. But that's also the major sports league that does the most to rig the system in favor of a handful of privileged teams, so... it still makes sense, and does not refute the general trend of athletes leaning R/con.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 11:09 PM (wKc1L)

872 862 Wow. A normal person would just shitcan their resume and not hire them.

You seem like you are a little "special" if that got your rocks off so much.


Wait, are those the personal insults based on mere disagreement I've heard so much about?

Confronting this useless Yalie with the shortcomings of his own introduction to life was a public service. Wish we had more of that.

Posted by: Splunge at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (iMxBJ)

873 And....you clearly don't know any recent Yale grads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (Zu3d9)

An ex girlfriend of mine graduated from Yale.

Nice rack.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (AkOaV)

874 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (f9BrB)

And maybe the Yalie was enamored of his own vaunted reputation that he didn't bother to do the work that would have secured his job.

[and...my first comment was a tad aggressive. Sorry. Nothing personal]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (Zu3d9)

875 "so they went on to have a totally chaotic revolution, followed by insane terror, horrors and barbaric savagery "


You should expect. That's what makes the American one so exceptional.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (agYzy)

876 Nice rack.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (AkOaV)

Are you new around here?

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (Zu3d9)

877 And....you clearly don't know any recent Yale grads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:06 PM (Zu3d9)

***

See my comment above, and I take great pride in the fact that I do not.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (f9BrB)

878 But, there was a huge gulf in the academic product Yale produced in 1957 and 1999.

Few things could be as emphatically true as that statement.
Posted by: Splunge
---------------

WFB saw the handwriting on the wall, published 'God and Man at Yale', in 1951. He was 26 years old.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:11 PM (9mTYi)

879 865
Ooh, I'm not sure if we want to be taking credit for the French Revolution.

That didn't play out as well as it could have.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:08 PM (AkOaV)


No, but facts are facts. The French didn't entirely think it up on their own.

But their revolution did kind of go sideways compared to ours.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:12 PM (sdi6R)

880 Pictures or it didn't happen.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (Zu3d9)

Ah, would if I could.

Current girlfriend found my secret folder YEARS ago.

Boy was that a shitty week of sleeping on the couch.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:12 PM (AkOaV)

881 That was my point. An over-hanging dynasty can be taken down in-house.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-------------------

Bolsheviks

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:13 PM (9mTYi)

882 An ex girlfriend of mine graduated from Yale.

Nice rack.

--------

Yale had a good rack program at one time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:14 PM (75uvI)

883 All right, good night revolters and GOP cucks.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 11:14 PM (agYzy)

884 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (f9BrB)

Fvcking with a Yalie is one of life's pleasures!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:14 PM (Zu3d9)

885 Bolsheviks

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:13 PM (9mTYi)


The Germans had a bit of a hand in that one ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 11:14 PM (zc3Db)

886 Good night, Ricardo! May your dreams be filled with rich Corinthian leather.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 11:15 PM (wKc1L)

887 [and...my first comment was a tad aggressive. Sorry. Nothing personal]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 11:10 PM (Zu3d9)

****

No worries, and I stand by my "just don't hire them" position.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:15 PM (f9BrB)

888 G'night RK, don't let the bedcucks bite.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:15 PM (9mTYi)

889 "Boy was that a shitty week of sleeping on the couch."

Call me?

::: gestures :::

Posted by: The Couch at September 02, 2015 11:16 PM (noWW6)

890 Not Important: Stopping the Iran Nuke Deal Posting the ONT
Important: Getting a Loyalty Pledge From Trump

Posted by: Jake Blues at September 02, 2015 11:18 PM (oVJmc)

891 Did something horrible happen? Where's the ONT?

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (18eUN)

892 862 You do realize that doing this is pretty fucked up, right?

Nope, enjoyed every fucking minute of it.
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:04 PM (ztOda)

***

Wow. A normal person would just shitcan their resume and not hire them.

You seem like you are a little "special" if that got your rocks off so much.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:07 PM (f9BrB)


If the guy was genuinely a snob and a bad worker, fine.

But hiring a guy with the intention of firing and humiliating him six weeks later is a pretty f'ked up thing. The fact you enjoyed it does not help.

Confronting this useless Yalie with the shortcomings of his own introduction to life was a public service.

I make a point of doing that. I just feel the need to f'k up a guy's career in the process, much less enjoy it.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (s4wTA)

893 Looks at degree:


B.S. PoliSci w/American Government concentration and Military Operations minor.


Reads Horde comments.


Well, I guess I'll just go off my useless ass.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (nL0sw)

894 I just feel the need to f'k up a guy's career in the process, much less enjoy it.

..."don't" feel the need.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:20 PM (s4wTA)

895 Call me?

::: gestures :::

Posted by: The Couch


Uh, uh, pipe fitting. Uh, flag pole. Uh, skeet shooting, skeet shooting!!!

Posted by: Charades at September 02, 2015 11:20 PM (JmGFJ)

896 Call me?

::: gestures :::
Posted by: The Couch at September 02, 2015 11:16 PM (noWW6)

Wait'll you get a load of me!

Posted by: CouchFucker at September 02, 2015 11:20 PM (f9BrB)

897 You seem like you are a little "special" if that got your rocks off so much.

There was a bit more to it, see #841. But once the ball got rolling, it was like being a sophomore again and running knobs out. "Attrition is the mission"

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:20 PM (ztOda)

898 Well, I guess I'll just go off my useless ass.
Posted by: Country Singer
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It's not what a man has, it's how he uses it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:21 PM (9mTYi)

899 866
As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves.



Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:05 PM (ry4ab)



Of course, being French they totally fucked that up. They had the
benefit of having seen our Revolution and decided to prove that they
were better than us and more perfect ... so they went on to have a
totally chaotic revolution, followed by insane terror, horrors and
barbaric savagery committed in the name of "rationality" and finally
ended up with a pint-sized emperor. The French ... they can fuck up
anything.


---------------------

The French Revolution did originally start as a way by the Third Estate to protect their property, much as our Revolution started as a way to keep the government's hand off our money, off our backs, and our ability to get the government to do what we wanted. However the French couldn't control the Jacobins, their radical element, which was not interested in property rights, and only wanted social utopia...and bloody revenge on Church and Nobility. The Jacobins of course got to like the taste of blood and went too far; and the other scared pols hastily brought in Bonaparte to tame the mob and restore order. Boy did he ever!


Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:21 PM (ry4ab)

900 891 Did something horrible happen? Where's the ONT?
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (18eUN)


Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:21 PM (sdi6R)

901 Comment 900

Righteous.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:22 PM (75uvI)

902 I just feel the need to f'k up a guy's career in the process, much less enjoy it.

Don't worry, we were all white guys. It's how we roll.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:23 PM (ztOda)

903 Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.
Posted by: rickl
----------------------

This is becoming a dangerous neighborhood.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:23 PM (9mTYi)

904 867
"As it happens, the French Revolution was started and completed by the French themselves. "





That was my point. An over-hanging dynasty can be taken down in-house.

-------------
It sure can, especially when the over-hanging dynasty is lazy, complacent, distracted by trivial matters, and has a fatal disconnect with the people who feed and clothe them.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:23 PM (ry4ab)

905 Did something horrible happen? Where's the ONT?
Posted by: Miley's Tongue

Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.

Posted by: rickl


That truck really gets around.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:23 PM (JmGFJ)

906
No, but facts are facts. The French didn't entirely think it up on their own.



But their revolution did kind of go sideways compared to ours.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:12 PM (sdi6R)
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Yep. Most revolutions end up being more concerned with power or wealth, rather than liberty. The American Revolution was not most revolutions.

Posted by: irright at September 02, 2015 11:23 PM (DtNNC)

907 has a fatal disconnect with the people who feed and clothe them.
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One word: Cake

Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:24 PM (9mTYi)

908 Don't worry, we were all white guys. It's how we roll.

Look, I'll put it this way, I'd rather work with a snob and a poor worker than somebody who'd set me up in a position just to get a kick out of humiliating and firing me six weeks later.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:24 PM (s4wTA)

909 The American Revolution was not most revolutions.
Posted by: irright
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Hmm. Maybe we ought to teach our children about history.

Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:25 PM (9mTYi)

910 I got a bad feeling about this.

Ok, maybe that's just the chili.

Posted by: Harmund G. Goutist, Chef Extraordinaire at September 02, 2015 11:25 PM (4T61K)

911 Maybe the cobs are on strike?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:26 PM (AkOaV)

912 Did something horrible happen? Where's the ONT?

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (18eUN)



Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:21 PM

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Recent blog history would show this not to be an impediment.

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 11:26 PM (7d8Ef)

913 Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:24 PM (9mTYi

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Word.

Posted by: Maria Theresa at September 02, 2015 11:26 PM (75uvI)

914 OK I got my adult coloring book but there are no adult pictures. What is this crap?

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 11:26 PM (BO/km)

915 Okay, if Maet is gone, I'm gonna want my membership money back.

Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM (9mTYi)

916 Look, I'll put it this way, I'd rather work with a snob and a poor worker than somebody who'd set me up in a position just to get a kick out of humiliating and firing me six weeks later.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:24 PM (s4wTA)

*****

Yep. That was my point all along.

Just say no rather than being a preening retard who is proud of this shit.

Posted by: CouchFucker at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM (f9BrB)

917 B.S. PoliSci w/American Government concentration and Military Operations minor.


Reads Horde comments.


Well, I guess I'll just go off my useless ass.


Mine says: International and Military Affairs, never understood what military affairs weren't international - until I stumbled into my first procurement (ambush).

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM (ztOda)

918 912 Did something horrible happen? Where's the ONT?

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at September 02, 2015 11:19 PM (18eUN)

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Just visualize content.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM (75uvI)

919 :checks on thread:

He's dead, Jim!

Posted by: Dr McCoy at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM (AkOaV)

920 I don't get what the big deal is. They know as well as anyone that if Trump tells people not to vote for the Republican candidate if it isn't him then the Republican candidate will struggle to get to 45% and it will be an epic embarrassment that might end up killing the GOPe. Most of them are old and think that signing a piece of paper will actually get Trump to support the nominee. Or at least not run as an independent or tell people to not vote for the nominee.

Trump will do whatever he wants to do and these GOPe people don't understand (as usual) the human beings they have to deal with since they can't ignore them anymore like they'd prefer.

Posted by: deepelemblues at September 02, 2015 11:28 PM (LdJfm)

921 So. Go for 1000 or not?

Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (9mTYi)

922 Okay, so since we're just dickin' around here... Important OT question...

Big River:

Grateful Dead version or Johnny Cash version?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (AkOaV)

923 Huh.
Hope Maet didn't go the way of poor buzzion.

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (L2Ssy)

924 Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.

You ever see the made-for-TV movie Sole Survivor with William Shatner?

We're in that right now.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (s4wTA)

925 Just say no rather than being a preening retard who is proud of this shit.

Posted by: CouchFucker


Oh, now's where we see if Ace is serious about SideBar Numero Uno

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (JmGFJ)

926 Just visualize content.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:27 PM
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...and whirled peas

Posted by: Miss South Carolina at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (7d8Ef)

927 You ever see the made-for-TV movie Sole Survivor with William Shatner?

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (s4wTA)

Nah but I know the Jeezy song "soul survivor" if that's what you mean.

You know the one -- feat Akon

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (AkOaV)

928 Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 02, 2015 10:51 PM (e8kgV)

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Hillary's IT guy takes the fifth also at WaPo:
http://tinyurl.com/q5eyzuj

Posted by: I forgot at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (YOxw1)

929 So...the French Revolution was spearheaded by Occupy and BLM and the American Revolution was led by the Tea Party?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 02, 2015 11:31 PM (GzDYP)

930 He's not dead he's pineing for the fords. Whatever that is.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 11:31 PM (BO/km)

931 906

No, but facts are facts. The French didn't entirely think it up on their own.





But their revolution did kind of go sideways compared to ours.



Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:12 PM (sdi6R)
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Yep.
Most revolutions end up being more concerned with power or wealth,
rather than liberty. The American Revolution was not most revolutions.
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The American Revolution was heavily involved in power and wealth. Namely American wealth and British power. The talk about rights in our Revolution was not pie-in-the-sky idealism a la France and Russia, but about the ability to lead a productive life free from government interference and greed. Our Revolution was to produce a more perfect union where We The People would tell the government what to do, and they would do it. The Jacobins and Bolsheviks wanted perfect communal cooperation and prosperity. They empowered tyrants to enforce it on everyone and killed all who dared to disagree.



Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:31 PM (ry4ab)

932
Oh, now's where we see if Ace is serious about SideBar Numero Uno
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (JmGFJ)

POINT OF ORDER:

I believe that evolution was organic and thus within the rules.

Someone check the rule book.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:31 PM (AkOaV)

933 Totally late to the party. The RNC, its feckless leader Rinsed Penis, and the whole of the GOPe are a disgrace.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 02, 2015 11:32 PM (FGIR8)

934 Hillary's IT guy takes the fifth also at WaPo:
http://tinyurl.com/q5eyzuj
Posted by: I forgot at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (YOxw1)

http://tinyurl.com/ohm846y

FIF!

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:32 PM (AkOaV)

935 That picture on Drudge is killing me.

Posted by: davidt at September 02, 2015 11:32 PM (iC9jc)

936 Look, I'll put it this way, I'd rather work with a snob and a poor worker than somebody who'd set me up in a position just to get a kick out of humiliating and firing me six weeks later.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:24 PM (s4wTA)

*****

Yep. That was my point all along.

Just say no rather than being a preening retard who is proud of this shit.
Posted by: CouchFucker


Read #841, then realize that not every job site is a holistic snugglefest, someplace's you perform - or your gone.

Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:33 PM (ztOda)

937 Hillary's IT guy takes the fifth also at WaPo:

http://tinyurl.com/q5eyzuj
Posted by: I forgot at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM
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And this is where it could get interesting. Not so much yet, with 5th Amendment based non-answers but still...

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 11:33 PM (7d8Ef)

938 935 That picture on Drudge is killing me.
Posted by: davidt at September 02, 2015 11:32 PM (iC9jc)

Yes, just watching revenue float away like that distresses us too.


((...what, too soon?))

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 02, 2015 11:33 PM (AkOaV)

939 It's almost like these politicians care more about winning elections than anything else.

Posted by: JohnJ at September 02, 2015 11:34 PM (TF/YA)

940 Oh, now's where we see if Ace is serious about SideBar Numero Uno
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:30 PM (JmGFJ)

*****

Allow me to update with current handle to make things easier, if need be.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:34 PM (f9BrB)

941 934 Hillary's IT guy takes the fifth


That guy better bring it back before Hilly finds out.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 02, 2015 11:35 PM (BO/km)

942 this thread is staler than hillarys -- oh, nevermind.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:35 PM (AkOaV)

943 And this is where it could get interesting. Not so much yet, with 5th Amendment based non-answers but still...

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An offer of immunity deprives the witness of the ability to invoke the 5th. Pro tip.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:35 PM (75uvI)

944 924 Don't tell me that Maetenloch has died now.

You ever see the made-for-TV movie Sole Survivor with William Shatner?

We're in that right now.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:29 PM (s4wTA)


I remember that!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065007/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


It in turn was inspired by an old Twilight Zone episode.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734584/

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:36 PM (sdi6R)

945 "The committee’s ranking Democrat, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), complained yesterday that Gowdy unilaterally issued the subpoena. He said the subpoena of a low-level aide is one of several signs that Gowdy is using the committee for the political purpose of trying to smear a Democratic presidential candidate."
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Right. The guy says he's going to plead the fifth, but Cummings says it's about politics. Seriously morally confused Cummins is.

Posted by: Marie at September 02, 2015 11:37 PM (9mTYi)

946 An offer of immunity deprives the witness of the ability to invoke the 5th. Pro tip.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:35 PM (75uvI)

IT guy was a hillary '08 staffer who then somehow became a state department IT dude.

And it would appear from my back of the envelope math that he was a state department employee at the time he set up the off domain server -- not sure if that matters legally or not, but uh... doesnt look good.

State Department IT department facilitated hillarys server IOW.

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:37 PM (AkOaV)

947 ONT ONT ONT!!!

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)

948 Read #841, then realize that not every job site is a holistic snugglefest, someplace's you perform - or your gone.
Posted by: Jean at September 02, 2015 11:33 PM (ztOda)

****

Agreed. Mine is one of them. That person never would have been hired in the first place.

The commentary is about the fact that you took great satisfaction in hiring them in order to fire them.

I can explain it to you, but I can not comprehend it for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 11:38 PM (f9BrB)

949 That picture on Drudge is killing me.
Posted by: davidt


It's intended to erase any opposition to invasion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 11:38 PM (W5DcG)

950 Read that link abut Hill's IT guy and what his lawyers quoted about the 5th Amend. (Id post it but even going to notepad first it had characters pixy chocked on and I'm too lazy to type it).

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 11:39 PM (7d8Ef)

951 the fONT of Wisdom doth spew forth..

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2015 11:39 PM (JmGFJ)

952 ONT ONT ONT!!!
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 02, 2015 11:38 PM
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Huh. It worked. Who knew?

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 02, 2015 11:40 PM (7d8Ef)

953 They empowered tyrants to enforce it on everyone and killed all who dared to disagree.
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You want freedom.
You'd settle for 7-day weeks.
You get 10-day weeks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 02, 2015 11:40 PM (9mTYi)

954 What you mean the go lying to us again?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (CyXSj)

955 #929: Basically, yes.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (wKc1L)

956 And of course the Twilight Zone episode was inspired by the tragic story of the Lady Be Good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Be_Good_(aircraft)

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (sdi6R)

957 Our Revolution was to produce a more perfect union...


Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 11:31 PM (ry4ab)

I do not think that is historically correct - the Articles of Confederation was a "Perpetual Union" and going down due to certain imperfections... Hence the phrase "a more perfect union" in the Constitution.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (NaeCR)

958 Late to this party (brisket enchiladas and home-made cherry wine).

The constituents want a loyalty pledge, you dick-headed dumb fucks!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 02, 2015 11:44 PM (q9xEd)

959 956 And of course the Twilight Zone episode was inspired by the tragic story of the Lady Be Good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Be_Good_(aircraft)
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (sdi6R)



That I knew about. I did not know about the Twilight Zone episode. I'll have to see that.

Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:46 PM (s4wTA)

960 That picture on Drudge is killing me.

Posted by: davidt



It's intended to erase any opposition to invasion.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 11:38 PM (W5DcG)

Need to put some nets or something out there.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 02, 2015 11:46 PM (NaeCR)

961 Continued from #955: Here, let me give you a more specific example.

The Boston Tea Party. The participants were charged with throwing that tea overboard, into the ocean. One of the guys figured, well, hell, if we're just wasting it anyway, I might as well keep some of it for myself instead. So, he pocketed some of that tea. He was found out, and (mildly) punished for it, because his actions went against the spirit of the event.

Meanwhile, in the French Revolution... if at any time you disagreed on anything with the Revolutionary Vanguard of the Week, you were next in line for the guillotine.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 11:50 PM (wKc1L)

962 Wanna run a notion up the flagpole. Everybody is mystified that people who have been conservative forever can now support Trump and it is causing lots of friendly fire incidents on the Right. How about this for an explanation: Only Ship In the Quadrant.

We were all ramping up for a Primary season. There was an elephant in the room, a banner laying on the ground neglected. Many of us cared about that banner but none of the candidates was willing to pick it up, it was outside the Overton Window and we all knew it so we sighed and started examining candidates based on the other issues they did and didn't adopt and whether they would even drop a few hints they at least wouldn't be Jeb! Bush on the thing.

Then Trump strode forth and with his Balls of Steel(tm) reached down and picked it up, shook the dirt from it and held it high. Many, even supporters, doubt he truly believes in the cause it stands for but there he stood holding it high and waving it. Well we couldn't stand it long, so damn it all we had to rally to the flag. Whatever, so HE can hold it, for HE does not care if big dollar donors hate him. He may have got in the race on a lark, to make a point, to launch a new reality show; Doesn't matter, he has an army behind him now and he knows winning is actually possible.

Any of the other candidates could rightly challenge him for the right to bear that standard, based on many reasons including the obvious reality that Trump isn't a reliable bearer of it. But the weeks roll by and none do. Perhaps they can't survive touching it. Perhaps they just lack the will. Trump isn't Superman, he just DID it. The Overton Window has now clearly moved, others could survive but they do not believe.... or rather they DO believe in something quite different.

Unless something changes we go to war with the army and the general we have, not the one we wish we were or the leader we wish we had.

Others on the Right do not care for the Immigration issue and are befuddled. But we see no other choice, we either have a country or we don't. We have a viable candidate, not just a protest like Tom Tancredo. Trump may be flawed but something beats nuthin' every single time. If the rest of the Right doesn't like that, they can offer up a better candidate.

Posted by: John Morris at September 02, 2015 11:50 PM (sCRhB)

963 959 956 And of course the Twilight Zone episode was inspired by the tragic story of the Lady Be Good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Be_Good_(aircraft)
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:41 PM (sdi6R)


That I knew about. I did not know about the Twilight Zone episode. I'll have to see that.
Posted by: AD at September 02, 2015 11:46 PM (s4wTA)


The Twilight Zone episode was when finding the LBG was still news in the headlines. Of course, the TZ episode bore no resemblance to the actual LBG story.

Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 11:54 PM (sdi6R)

964 #962: I like the cut of your jib, John Morris. Do you, by any chance, have a newsletter to which I may subscribe?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 11:58 PM (wKc1L)

965 Oh, and for what it's worth, John, Trump is serious right now. He's filed the financial paperwork, he's divested himself of his stock holdings, and he's assembled strong ground teams in the early primary states.

He is indeed in it to win it.

I, for one, am with him. He's running against the GOPe, he knows it, he's serious about it, he's topping the polls, and that's good enough for me.

So, he doesn't agree with me on everything. So what? Who does, really?

Nobody else is in a position to tip over the GOPe's apple cart like he has. Because of that, I am a Trump man.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 03, 2015 12:40 AM (wKc1L)

966 Nope, no newsletter. Not even a blog.

And yea, I too think he is now in it to win it. For a very simple reason. All of his real estate is clustered in Blue Hells and depend on the goodwill of Proggies lest they drive him out business. To say nothing of the casinos which are government issued licenses to mint cash... if you cut the right people in for their taste of course. Well so much for that. Either Trump is a total idiot and doesn't have a clue what is about to hit him or he knows.

He knows, it is why he talked about running many times but never did. This is a success only ticket, win and fear will stay their hand but lose and an example will be made, tycoons simply can't betray the ruling class like this with impunity. So you could say that while he might not have pledged his life to the cause, his fortune and honor are certainly on the line now.

Probably won't be the only one before this is over, a lot of people are going to have to step up and stick their necks out if the country is to be salvaged and the establishment is going be taking names. Remember that old adage about setting out to kill a king? We are proposing nothing less than overthrowing a whole aristocracy. We live in interesting times.

And I'm being very precise in using the word salvage. We missed the last ditch effort to save the country in 2012, a Kaboom! is now unavoidable. Not only the other shoe in the economic collapse that started in '08, it is now a certainty that atomic bombs explode again somewhere as a total war ramps up. A controlled crash is still better than auguring into the ground under full power though. Many unthinkable things are going to requiring thinking and doing. Trump isn't a candidate for sane times.

Posted by: John Morris at September 03, 2015 01:17 AM (sCRhB)

967 One strong point in Trump's favor is his experience in dealing with and bouncing back from bankruptcies. I suspect our country will be in need of that sort of experience in the not-so-distant future.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 03, 2015 01:32 AM (wKc1L)

968 HEH. The problem is you have no idea specifically WHAT "extraordinary measures" you want taken to fulfill your objectives, other than the old stand-by of shutting down the government, a proven losing tactic.

Damn those Republicans for not being magicians! Or for failing to hire an international hit man, or something! Burn it down!

And then you get sensitive about mockery. But isn't the pretense of respect the most insidious mockery of all? It seems to me a ration of mockery is appropriate when a thoroughly silly proposition is put forth by a reasonable man. Such as the ridiculous idea that some political newbie can claim to be "Tea Party!" and then take the district which was held for more than half a century by Bob Michel and his top aide Ray LaHood (the modern era poster boys for "moderate Republicans") from the latter's son. Sure, and the Jets might have won the Super Bowl last year, too - if a dozen other teams all died in plane crashes. Get serious.

If I didn't respect you, I would not mock you. I would just write you off as insane or suffering from brain anomalies and stop reading. Never forget that the opposite of love is NOT hate, but indifference.

But, man, an MRI couldn't hurt, ya know?

Posted by: Adjoran at September 03, 2015 05:43 AM (QIQ6j)

Posted by: Vic at September 03, 2015 06:28 AM (t2KH5)

970 Maybe Reince should ask Boehner and McConnell to sign a loyalty oath first.

Posted by: Michael Haz at September 03, 2015 07:59 AM (APCKW)

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