aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Romney to the Rescue? Again?
Well, he thought about running, then met with Jeb, and apparently decided that the party was in good hands with Jeb.
Now some of his supporters are saying he's not quite so certain of that. Gabriel Sherman at New York magazine:As Donald Trump continues to dominate the Republican presidential race, frustration and panic have become high enough to make some inside the party Establishment pine for a candidate they roundly rejected as recently as January: Mitt Romney. Romney himself has become one of Trump's most vocal detractors inside the party. "He’s someone to whom civility means a lot. The whole Trump thing really bothers him," a close Romney adviser told me -- and some Romney-ites are only too happy to talk up the prospect of their man jumping into the race if the Establishment fails to stop Trump... "Mitt wants to run. He never stopped wanting to run," a senior member of his 2012 team told me. Other Romney-ites, watching this cycle’s candidates falling short, feel a sense of vindication after all the attacks they endured after Romney's failed 2012 bid. "These guys like Walker and Perry, they were big deals in their states, but you get them onto the national stage and it's a different story," a former Romney adviser told me. "It's like they were in middle school, and now they're freshmen in high school and they're getting their faces slammed in the toilets."I personally like Mitt Romney so I'm open to a Romney candidacy; however, I have heard him tack once again to the left post-presidential-bid. I don't think I will able to will myself to pretend to believe it if he suddenly tacks to the right once more.* People seem to think he won't get into the race. I don't know about that, though. Assuming he still has "the bug" -- which his supporters say he does, and which, it is said, one never really gets over -- then that takes care of the psychological part of it. On the practical end of it -- could he make a splash? -- I'd say the answer is "yes." The "anti-Trump" vote, or the pro-Establishment vote, is currently both split and colossally disappointed. It is my guess they would not only quickly jump all ships to get on Mitt's ship, but that they're actually dying for some new Miracle Solution that will spare them the possibility of President Trump (or Carson). Shortly thereafter, having rendered the alternatives unviable, almost all the rest of their supporters would jump to Mitt. Whether or not he beats Trump, I don't know. But I suspect Mitt's entry immediately drains 75% of the support from the Establishment-friendly candidates like Jeb, Christie, and Rubio. He'd probably take a chunk from Kaisch, too, but I can't really say that with any confidence, as I have literally no idea whatsoever as to what people find appealing in Kasich in the first place.
* I think I exhausted my capacity for pretending to believe in 2014.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:36 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:37 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 02:37 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 02:38 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:38 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Ncj at September 02, 2015 02:38 PM (jzdPq)
I've never met the man. He seems like a nice guy from past campaigns, too nice a guy unless your a Republican challenger. But, Mitt is not the guy we need in the WH
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:38 PM (9mTYi)
It says a lot about how these establishment Republicans thinks about Jeb!'s chances.
That is how badly they need a back up to their liking.
(and someone with money)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:39 PM (qCMvj)
John McCain in 2008.
Mitt Romney in 2012.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 02:39 PM (KCQo0)
Jeb: I'm tanking, but this cause is greater than any of us... you gotta continue my work.
Romney: I'll do it for the herd.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 02:39 PM (E5UB0)
He's been thoroughly
What's the chance there are new video's out there for the left to meme on?
lol, probably 100%
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:40 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:40 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: But so what? at September 02, 2015 02:40 PM (7wyDO)
Posted by: Ace
--------------
My theory is that he appeals to the "No Labels" crowd.
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 02, 2015 02:41 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 02:41 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (qCMvj)
Really? Not to other Republican candidates--only to our Low Information President and Candy "The Face That Lunched A Thousand Shrimps" Crowley.
Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: X at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (57fhp)
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (XhzTz)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: A. Hitler at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (zyIlW)
I have no idea what people find appealing in Mittens. He is the epitome of the establishment Republicans and liberal to the core.
Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (OqR5R)
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (XhzTz)
Well to be fair, he has a fuckin big lawn and someone's gotta mow it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Hollis Wood at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (q9xEd)
They totally ignore the Democrat flaming train wreck that is Hillary, Bernie and Mike what's-his-face.
They don't even have a Romney to fall back on.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Lauren at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (GZ6Pf)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (XhzTz)
that might be what they are thinking
they are so hung up on the "hispanic" vote that they cannot see straight.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (qCMvj)
And he opposes RFRA and reflexively supports banning flags to combat racism.
He would be a total surrender to Political Correctness.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (OqR5R)
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mitt at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (Spluw)
It says a lot about how these establishment Republicans thinks about Jeb!'s chances.
That is how badly they need a back up to their liking.
(and someone with money)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:39 PM (qCMvj)
I posted a link this morning where it said establishment money men well bailing out on Jebbie The Hutt.
Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (t2KH5)
Not "hispanic." NATURAL CONSERVATIVES!
Posted by: Karl Rove at September 02, 2015 02:44 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 02:42 PM (XhzTz)
Hey, We here in California have an extra 20 million He can have...
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (hUdMz)
he was able to answer a few questions very well
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (PFy0L)
Political parties don't die gradually. They die suddenly and to the surprise of their existing leadership.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (659DL)
I'll take the billionaire over the millionaire.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (5QyYN)
Bravo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (gf8BH)
"Civility" is why you lost, you whining, limp-wristed, pink-silk pantied milksop.
Just go the fuck away, Mitt. GO. AWAY.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mitt at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (DOc+F)
Posted by: Furious George at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (UlJ3l)
Not nearly as disappointed as Mitt will be.
Posted by: jwb7605 at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (M+9nV)
We are officially in bizarro land. Romney had the most strict anti-illegal platform in 2012. So strict that even Trump slammed him for being mean.
Of course that was before Trump "evolved" and became the supreme anti-illegal candidate in a whole 6 months.
Doesn't matter. I can't keep the labels straight any longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (LA7Cm)
That conservative felt that Obama was an acceptable enough alternative to a liberal Republican, and prioritized punishing the GOP for two decades of piss-poor Republican candidates.
Will the same conservative feel that Hillary Clinton is more or less tolerable than an Obama? Will that same conservative feel that this time, finally, after scaring the hell out of everyone by rhetorically backing Trump, the GOP might get the message if he/she stays home?
If so, Romney smells the glove...yet again.
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (hUdMz)
Mitt would have been a good president. That ship has sailed.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (JtwS4)
Choo-choo!
Why not run another crappy candidate a second time?
(yes, I find Romney personally likable, too)
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (kZVsz)
The GOPe actually found someone that would make me vote for Kanye
Posted by: Ncj at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (jzdPq)
Posted by: 20 Million Mexicans at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (evdj2)
That's nice that he has a platform. But he's a failure, so he needs to go away.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (OGm46)
Ok now one last time. There is Black Label, Red Label and Gold Label. But my favorite is Blue Label
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (gf8BH)
The Age of Stupid.
That's all the labeling we need.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Garrett at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (oOvfk)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (5QyYN
Shirley you jest?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (XtAzU)
Bravo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (gf8BH)
yep
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (qCMvj)
Trump-Romney: "Why, I'll keep him from being too severely conservative."
Posted by: CJ at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (9KqcB)
Let him throw his hat in the ring. Maybe Trump will say all the things to/about him we've wanted to say.
Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (WDCYi)
Did you see what Kim and Kanye had on the other night?
Posted by: LIV at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)
I'll take the billionaire over the millionaire.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (0NdlF)
Romney's organization was all smoke and mirrors.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (OqR5R)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)
I don't particularly want him to run. I just get a kick out of how people view the various candidates.
The biggest issue supposed conservatives had with Romney in 2012 was that he was less than pure in his past on certain issues. Now Trump is the conservative favorite and he was a flat out liberal not too long ago. Like last year.
Just odd.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:49 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 02:50 PM (pVkEV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Garrett at September 02,
Isnt that black chick from MSNBC the lead singer for The War on Tampons?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:50 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 02, 2015 02:50 PM (0O7c5)
This really makes so much clear. (as if we didn't know this already)
The "GOP" candidate bench is so varied, so large, for the first time I have ever seen in my life. And they actively seeking another to add to it.
They are so afraid of the "outsider's" and thought they had Jeb! in the bag. We read about the scheme to collapse all of the others into Jeb! You can only read from this that it is true. But the outsiders, Trump, Carly, Carson, are throwing a huge wrench into the GOP machine.
So they have to add another?
I'm happy with Cruz, tyvm.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (qCMvj)
I'm not far from wanting to just Thelma et Louise the whole experiment.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (kZVsz)
Well, that's nice.
But does he want to WIN this time?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (NOIQH)
Not that guy again.... You figure he would have gotten the message by now.
Also, are the GOP elite so afraid of Trump that they are willing to throw in a proven loser? Almost makes Trump worth voting for just to shit on their cake.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (VNgld)
Posted by: Garrett at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (oOvfk)
Yes. And Mike Huckabee tells us that he's also the one whose faith is in brotherhood-league with Old Scratch.
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 02:51 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (0AxXh)
Posted by: The GOPe at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Lea at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (nL3rK)
Posted by: Will Smith and Martin Lawrence at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (dplSG)
Stay at home Mitt.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (6n332)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)
Nope the sh*t is not only staring them in the face, it's destroying them, but they would rather go down with the ship then become... horrors, conservative.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Joe Mama at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (zLv2s)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (kQBSd)
Gawd, I'm parched.
Posted by: Larry Reid, Ready to Party at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Maaaaaaaaav'rik! at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (kZVsz)
HELL NO
Posted by: Anti-GOPer at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (8HcgX)
Posted by: Thousands of Aggrieved Dogs at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (RD7QR)
=========
The label "conservative" doesn't matter so much in this particular cycle, sorry.
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (3ZtZW)
Now is the time for someone bold enough, and willing to be a , er jerk enough to undo so much of what Obama has done despite an emboldened, nasty Left.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (NOIQH)
Fuck civility. It's beyond time for a hell of a ton of incivility.
Posted by: dwagyak at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (yQmi4)
Posted by: Count de Jim Dandy at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Ncj at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (jzdPq)
Posted by: Jack at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (XhzTz)
Posted by: The GOPe at September 02, 2015 02:52 PM (8ZskC)
Rove's on it!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:48 PM (Z58Xa)
-----------------------------
I don't.
And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (5QyYN)
--
Reminds me of TheTwilight Zone's "Number 12 Looks Just Like Me."
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (pVkEV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (Z58Xa)
Does he even frequent the day threads, or is he at some random titty bar?
I have a chemistry question...
(Borax)
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (L2Ssy)
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (2oWD2)
Come for the holier-than-thou condescending attitude, stay for the hatred of the tea party.
Posted by: duke at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (mDxGf)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 02:53 PM (NOIQH)
to be fair to Romney, he said he would reverse the JEF's executive orders, first day on the job.
Did he mean it? Would he do it now?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (qCMvj)
Or maybe you're mis-identifying the biggest issue to the "supposed conservative" crowd.
Who was *excited* about Romney? I wasn't. But I'll gladly have Trump burn it down. I don't even care if he wins.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (0NdlF)
Worse, it would be a sequel, and sequels are almost never as good as the original - and the original sucked!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: 2016 at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (2oWD2)
as I have literally no idea whatsoever as to what people find appealing in Kasich in the first place.
My Daddy was a postman.
He brought everyone letters.
And sometimes he brought them porno magazines!
Yay!!!
Posted by: John Kasich at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (0cMkb)
Trump's hair may be young at heart but the man is 69. Age doesn't seem to be much of a factor this cycle either.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (OGm46)
What part of "no" doesn't he understand?"
I know, right?
You think he would get a clue
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo. Paste sticks for all my friends at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Mitt Romney's Meaner Twin at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (UlJ3l)
We need more of that.
Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (DNFK1)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (VNgld)
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 02:54 PM (L2Ssy)
A Borax? Isn't that some pole-arm from the first edition of AD&D?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (kff5f)
Since that election, he's done nothing that would inspire me to vote for him again. As a matter of fact, he's done the exact opposite.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (5QyYN)
Posted by: Mitt's Garbageman at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: NCkate at September 02, 2015 02:56 PM (MG4zH)
Because this might actually happen.
http://freebeacon.com/blog/flashforward-highlights-from-the-president-trump-email-dump-part-one/
Please note that this contains an exception to my stupid acronym for legislation hate.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: 13times at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (PFy0L)
Bob Dole is poppin' the pills and pleasin' the missus and has no time for that.
Posted by: Bob Dole at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jeb! at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (qh617)
Practical results in destroying the infrastructure of the Democratic party in Ohio and Wisconsin. Not rhetoric like from Senators. Not already running a "red state" like Rick Perry. Not failing to change the ground rules in a "blue state" like Chris Christie.
At the end of the day, nothing conservatives want policy-wise is ever going to happen until and unless the infrastructure of Democrat party power is directly attacked at its source, unions, media, educrats, fund-raising. Whether you approve of their rhetoric or their personalities or not, those are things that both Walker and Kasich have actually done, in spades, in their respective states.
And they've both done it without turning off, permanently, LIVs.
They are both the "stealth" candidates for the LIVs that Obama was in 2008. I prefer Walker to my own state's governor, Kasich, but either are acceptable because of that track record of doing things that actually destroy the Democrats' ability to effectively block conservative policy.
Nobody else in the race has that record of actual fundamental destruction of organized Democrat power. The Democrat party in both Wisconsin and Ohio are effectively dead and buried at all electoral levels. Both states are running conservative policies for the most part.
I would love to have that transplanted nationally.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (ljZD2)
I'd love to give him another pasting in a debate.
Mmmmm... paste **gurgle** **drool**
Posted by: Joke Biden at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (dplSG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (9mTYi)
I think a lot of us did. And lost the ability to pretend to believe a lot more things than a candidate who says he's conservative.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 02:57 PM (OqR5R)
Ummmm, he eats the blue pill like candy
Don't poison our dreams like that
Posted by: Ncj at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (jzdPq)
Posted by: Hot Shots Part Deux at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (LA7Cm)
>>Who was *excited* about Romney? I wasn't. But I'll gladly have Trump burn it down. I don't even care if he wins.
That possible although I was told here on a daily basis that principles where the most important thing to conservatives. If excitement is the real key then I stand corrected.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (XtAzU)
They totally ignore the Democrat flaming train wreck that is Hillary, Bernie and Mike what's-his-face.
They don't even have a Romney to fall back on.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM (KCQo0)"
Ahem.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner -- tanned, rested, ready, and completely drained at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (E/x08)
Posted by: ron at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (xytVe)
Will the same conservative feel that Hillary Clinton is more or less tolerable than an Obama? Will that same conservative feel that this time, finally, after scaring the hell out of everyone by rhetorically backing Trump, the GOP might get the message if he/she stays home?
If so, Romney smells the glove...yet again.
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 02:47 PM (Bdeb0)
------------------
See I think this conservatives stayed home and Romney loss, is total BS. More likely is that liberal Republicans voted FOR Obama, preferring him over Romney.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: nannyhag at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (Queum)
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (oDCMR)
Exactly. I want someone who will torch them for the insurance money.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (evdj2)
Yes, that made me laugh.
You should have added "male only" however.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Faux News Genius and disinterested observer at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (8HcgX)
________
Kasich embraced Obamacare. Talk about dealing a blow to liberal policies.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 02:59 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (fWAjv)
It's not much dumber.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther)
--------------------
AD&D? Accidental death and dismemberment?
No.
And it's not a Dr. Seuss book, either.
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (L2Ssy)
He has little name recognition, isn't opposing the dear leader in the Congress (as if anyone else really is), and he's not from a southern state. At this point, he hasn't been labelled yet, and the MFM doesn't yet have reason to defenestrate him.
he's the rethuglickan equivalent to Pope Francis; they can deign to tolerate him.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (Spluw)
Assuming he still has "the bug" -- which his supporters say he does, and which, it is said, one never really gets over -- then that takes care of the psychological part of it.
How many times has Mittens run for POTUS? Three? Four? At the very least, he's been working on the project for close to 30 years if not longer.
Mitt's problem is, he pussed out when he got within arm's reach.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (1QsMy)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 02:55 PM (0LHZx)
Nope... Romney is the exact OPPOSTIE of what we need...
He is a really nice guy... too nice to really confront our enemies....
and he is smart enough to make Big Government function better... so less outrage to get rid of it.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (qh617)
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Team Romney at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (/eTPT)
I'll say the same thing about Carson. Just not ready for the obvious rigors ahead.
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (Fmupd)
---------------------
Kasich can not hold a candle to Walker on accomplishments.
Defeated Unions-Walker
Declined Obamacare Subsidies-Walker
Walker is a governor of big visions. Kasich is a get along to go along politician.
Kasich is not a conservative in my book.
Not a lib GOP but still not a con.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (QyBQv)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: fastfreefall at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (oBidu)
It's not much dumber.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (kZVsz)
Our only hope for an entertaining election is Sanders running as a socialist, Slow Joe on the Dem ticket, Jeb running GOP, and Trump running on the Yuge and Luxurious ticket. It'll end the republic but at least it'll go out laughing.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (RD7QR)
My dears!
One simply doesn't elect a man like Donald Trump to the Presidency of the United States of America.
One must, absolutely must!, be civil as one's nation is being destroyed from the inside out.
If being civil means laying down and surrendering the election, then by all means that is what one must do.
Good breeding shows. And manners are their own reward!
*sniffs*
Posted by: Mitt Romney at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (0cMkb)
And Mitt doesn't have that.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (kZVsz)
162 A Borax? Isn't that some pole-arm from the first edition of AD&D?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther)
--------------------
AD&D? Accidental death and dismemberment?
No.
And it's not a Dr. Seuss book, either.
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 03:00 PM (L2Ssy)
Ah yep.... both wrong...
Posted by: Guy driving a 40 Mule Team wagon at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (qh617)
I'm so stunned at the tone of the discussion in this thread that my pants have fallen down around my ankles again.
Posted by: Frankie Luntz at September 02, 2015 03:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 03:03 PM (O7MnT)
============
First mistake: You trusted us
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 03:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (659DL)
And Walker didn't Again, a reason I prefer Walker. That said, Kasich took a joke opponent in 2014 and used him to utterly annihilate the Democrat party at every level in this state. And he didn't scare the LIVs while doing it. He seems "reasonable and moderate" all while doing 85-90% of what conservatives say they want.
He has certainly not been perfect, but he's been extremely good. I'll take that over any Democrat/progressive in a heartbeat.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (ljZD2)
Posted by: His Majesty MomJeans I at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (oVJmc)
Yeah, but things are gonna be different when We take back the Senate..... oh....
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (hUdMz)
I'm so stunned at the tone of the discussion in this thread that my pants have fallen down around my ankles again.
Posted by: Frankie Luntz at September 02, 2015 03:03 PM (8ZskC
For Pete's sake, pull your pants up, its not the ONT
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (QyBQv)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 03:04 PM (kdS6q)
Romney, in other words, won't make much of an impact. Just like Ace says, the willful suspension of disbelief hopeful Republicans had to accomplish to let him run in the first place (on the theory that he was electable) has been replaced by disgust and anger.
Posted by: MTF at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ron at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (xytVe)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (LXJ1e)
Yep.
Just look at how Trump reacted to companies dropping him over his immigration views: he sued them and mocked them in the media.
Just look at how every time some protester attempts to hijack one of Cruz's appearances be politely, but firmly, hands them their ass.
The Left is a lot more emboldened and angry than in 2008 and 2012, it will not be easy to push them back after Obama has whipped them up for 8 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (NOIQH)
---
hey, that was just the beta test in 2012
It was. It came back positive.
No more betas.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at September 02, 2015 03:05 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
All threads after 100 posts become ONT
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:06 PM (kQBSd)
No that's for when Heinz Kerry gets in the Dem primaries.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 02, 2015 03:06 PM (XtAzU)
At this point it would make more sense for American conservatives to immigrate and takeover some third world country and turn it into a jewel. Panama and Uruguay seem to be doable targets. And then we could be third world minorities and the NYTs would love us.
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 03:06 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 02:43 PM
It is phobic. It is a obsession. What they don't get about "f' no" is what gives it away. They think if they keep doing it it will be ok like a four year old.
Posted by: Lester at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (2UPXV)
He is a really nice guy... too nice to really confront our enemies....
and he is smart enough to make Big Government function better... so less outrage to get rid of it.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 03:01 PM (qh617)
______________
But it's sadly about as good as we're going to get.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (R4vR0)
How much does the GOPe hate the base that they'd rather lose with Romney than win with a Trump or Cruz type? Amazing.
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (9221z)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (7eC3Q)
Gosh I hate the GOP.
Posted by: Kensington at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (7Kbxu)
Except he's out anyway, so if you want that just have Mitt meet him at the airport
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (3ZtZW)
This comment was intended for you:
413 Anna, I'll buy yours too and add it onto my stack of unread reading. I have trouble reading now bc I think I have picked up ADD somehow. Short attention span, easily distracted. I can't read more than a few pages at a time and then give up bc it's exhausting for me to read now which I hate. I majored in English Lit and fell in love with books a kid. It sucks to be a grown up
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (2x3L+)
So after Romney wins the nomination, he challenges andconfronts his Democratic opponent, either Hillary or some other equally vulnerable, flawed wreck of a human being like Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders. Then--surprising no one who paid attention last election cycle--Romney quits mid-debate and ignominiously loses Because Romney's weak. Because Romney's stupid. Because the only time Romney attacks with any vigor is when he's attacking his own.
To hell with Mitt Romney. And his wife. And his dog on the roof. And his folders full of women. He doesn't have the balls for the job.
Posted by: troyriser at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (Bvf82)
Just what we need as America is being damaged beyond repair by the Left. More fucking civility.
Posted by: rickl at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
yeah, because everyone here has been pining for a perfect candidate.
Another thread, another strawman.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (ry4ab)
He literally has no basis or constituency to run but GOPe never stops.
He has no supprt in the NE, SOUTH, MID WEST, WEST.
He has money men but as Jeb is proving, moneymen don't run batter town this election.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (eDW1j)
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (LXJ1e)
Romney after that. Oh! Are the Republicans "conservatives" the enemy??? Who would have known -- except by every decision made by the establishment, elitist CongressCritters and Senators since the "Republican conservative sweep" in 2014. Bring on the Vulgarians!
Posted by: pyromancer76 at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (sPfLU)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (oVJmc)
It's gonna take someone swinging a big dick, right away, to get the world respecting us again.
And Mitt doesn't have that.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:02 PM (kZVsz)
______________________
But I do....
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (HSmrB)
Do we have a new verb now that willow had left for the happy buzzion grounds?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (JtwS4)
--
So Hillary is going to win after all, eh?
/obvious joke
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (pVkEV)
the GOPe can go engage in intercourse with itself, because i'm never holding my nose again.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (lsWof)
Some are worse on that score, with Hillary! probably being the worst, since they've already had a good, long, look at her character.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (kZVsz)
For example, PBS defunding and Big Bird:
"I love Big Bird, but Sesame Street makes millions every year. And they just cut a deal with HBO. Big Bird is one of the 1%, he's one of me! PBS will be fine if it is defunded."
Then call PBS losers, hah. Kidding.
Posted by: LizLem at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (hvf9s)
Why won't they just endorse Rubio then? He's essentially the same as Romney, "a nice guy" candidate.
Why add 18 to the candidate roster?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (qCMvj)
....but I can't really say that with any confidence, as I have literally
no idea whatsoever as to what people find appealing in Kasich in the
first place.
Posted by: Ace
--------------
My theory is that he appeals to the "No Labels" crowd.
------
Kasich is Jeb with the ability to smile and link two coherent sentences together.
Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (ry4ab)
Yeah, this is another reason I hate the GOPe. Kill your own, leave the "enemies" alone.
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
-------------------------
I don't know who Pete is, but we all know what can happen with sudden pants movements - the last thing we need around here is another dislocated finger...
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (L2Ssy)
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (vsbNu)
Present beware, future beware, he's coming he's coming he's coming ..
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (kdS6q)
A brokered convention? Mitt is drafted? Cruz, Trump et al walk out?
The Insane Clown Party finally implodes?
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at September 02, 2015 03:11 PM (7/bQ3)
Some are worse on that score, with Hillary! probably being the worst, since they've already had a good, long, look at
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:10 PM (kZVsz)
FIFY.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (RD7QR)
Yes, let's go with that.
At least the advisors have potential to rise to another tax bracket soon, so we have that going for "us".
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (1CroS)
============
Different way of looking at this cycle, I guess.
Trump == Game playa
Jeb, Romney, GOPe == white knights
Posted by: Bigby's Grasping Hand at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (pVkEV)
Posted by: simaon jester at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (tFyfM)
Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (shLnc)
folders full of women. He doesn't have the balls for the job."
^^^^^^this^^^^^^
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (lsWof)
And Walker didn't Again, a reason I prefer Walker. That said, Kasich took a joke opponent in 2014 and used him to utterly annihilate the Democrat party at every level in this state. And he didn't scare the LIVs while doing it. He seems "reasonable and moderate" all while doing 85-90% of what conservatives say they want.
He has certainly not been perfect, but he's been extremely good. I'll take that over any Democrat/progressive in a heartbeat.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Trumpetdady makes the best possible case for Kasich. I don't think it's good enough though. He'd govern like Romney. However, Romney is at least likable, unlike Kasich. And that's important in politics; just ask Hillary.
Posted by: duke at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (mDxGf)
And I ordered campaign buttons from them, the week before the election. They couldn't bother to get them out to me until after the election. Pretty much what you can expect from a Mitt presidency.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2015 03:12 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:58 PM (OGm46)
I was told here on a daily basis that the most important thing was electability and not to worry my little head about those silly principles.
Now there's neither a Romney presidency nor principles on display by the Republican leadership in Congress.
Consequences sure are a stone cold bitch, aren't they?
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (mf5HN)
Ace, you shouldn't be open to another Romney run. He's a tested loser. That's enough of a reason to walk away. Do not entertain the idea of a Romney canidacy.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (2x3L+)
by adopting every one of their policies.
He's like John Carpenter's 'The Thing' -- looks and acts like a democrats, but only the Scandis knew for sure.
Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (v2K1n)
OK, let's play catch with your Frisbee. Are the liberal Republicans who voted for Obama more or less likely to vote for Hillary than Romney v3.0?
The former, I say. Less Cylon than Romney, more Nixon than Nixon.
She gets a straw, and she drinks Romney's milkshake.
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: exdem13
------------------------
And better posture.
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (L2Ssy)
He'll go to the mat to repeal Obamacare and the Medicaid increases.
EBT increases, he'll slash them in half.
He'll round up every illegal in the country and send them packing AND make THEM pay for it.
Department of Education? Bye-bye
IRS? Jail time.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (LXJ1e)
Took them 2 mths to get me the Romney buttons and bumper stickers - arrived the day *after* the election.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (9221z)
----------------------------------------
So true. It'll be interesting to see how this all unfolds. I have a feeling that the majority of the American people are fed up enough with the elitists of both parties to reject the political status quo.
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
------------------------------------------------------
the Romney Horror Picture Show
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (E5UB0)
Romney the answer?
If "the answer" is the equivalent of throwing a drowing man an anchor, then yes he's the answer.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (+aCe4)
"Hillary email exchange rips lazy, drunk, untrustworthy Boehner!"
-----------------------
Hells to the yeah!! *hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (HSmrB)
I heard that motherfucker had like thirty goddamn dicks.
Posted by: wooga at September 02, 2015 03:16 PM (v2K1n)
Posted by: Lizzy
I've seen multiple instances where the notion of bernie the bolshie being a 'socialist' is a : "lie, false, overstated (?) labelling". This from people who have no compunction labelling people as "haters, tea******, whatever-phobes.
The disconnect is striking. it's getting more so since in a primary season, people promote their 'ideal' candidates anyway, and hiliary is becoming embarrassing, even for dems.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 03:16 PM (Spluw)
I admire perseverance but c'mon guy, give it a rest.
You've been rejected quite thoroughly by both the GOP and by the Nation.
We don't believe you're up to the job. You'll be just another squish liberal all compassiony and stuff while meanwhile the country takes a nose dive. Because what's needed is some government trimming not only personnel but regulations and the scope of control.
And I don't think he's got the mindset to do that. He'll want to cut the money (not a bad thing) but it will just wind up being reapportioned somewhere else for zero reduction. Meanwhile those programs cut will affect millions who may or may not be lazy good for nothings but do you really believe so many people who have been laid off are lazy and wouldn't wish to have a job again?
I suspect that probably any standard Republican will botch this Presidency because they'll just trot out the old tried and true methods that never really worked and aren't applicable with the current economic climate and the depths to which the job market has been hollowed out.
I'm really tired of seeing his bland grinning face and watching him lose once again would just be too much to take.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (x3GpS)
How much does the GOPe hate the base that they'd rather lose with Romney than win with a Trump or Cruz type? Amazing.
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:07 PM (9221z)
They only hate the base because it threatens Big Government. And they LOOOOVE Big Government.
They know that losing to the Ds will protect Big Government, but going conservative won't.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (oVJmc)
The former, I say. Less Cylon than Romney, more Nixon than Nixon.
She gets a straw, and she drinks Romney's milkshake.
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (Bdeb0)
-------------------------
I agree. Especially if Trump gets the nomination, there will be wholesale liberal Republican defections to the Democraps.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (LXJ1e)
Man I can't wait for another balls to the wall attack during the primaries and then be a shrinking violet in the general election.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (z/Ubi)
The hawkiest of the hawks, America's li'l blond rapscallion: Linsey Graham!
Lemme get my checkbook...
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (kZVsz)
This comment was intended for you:
413 Anna, I'll buy yours too and add it onto my stack of unread reading. I have trouble reading now bc I think I have picked up ADD somehow. Short attention span, easily distracted. I can't read more than a few pages at a time and then give up bc it's exhausting for me to read now which I hate. I majored in English Lit and fell in love with books a kid. It sucks to be a grown up
Posted by: L, Elle at September 02, 2015 03:08 PM (2x3L+)
--I have a similar problem, but for me it's that it's hard to sustain reading actual books instead of electronic material, either Nook or laptop. I have two unfinished books about WWI, a topic I love and could and would usually read a lot at a time, but my crazy farsighted eyes are not happy with words on paper that can't be adjusted. I'll probably not dive back into a "traditional" book again until the next time I take a flight.
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 03:17 PM (vsbNu)
being a 'socialist' is a : "lie, false, overstated (?) labelling".
By Sanders himself.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Motorhead at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (z3HYr)
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (4ErVI)
Seriously, even if you're not going to learn anything from how Trump is succeeding, can you maybe take a clue from Sad Puppies and Gamer Gate? You woke the sleeping giant, and he found you're tried to tie him down.
*SURE* he'll get around to crushing your enemies eventually - or trying to, at least - because they're his enemies, too. But first he's got to crush you, because you've made yourself his enemy and he can't have you at his back.
The DOPe can either get on board with populist sentiment (we know they'll never get on board with conservatism), or they can watch their power base (what of it exists) be destroyed.
They don't *have* to glom on to Trump. They can still sneer down their noses at him. But if they're going to do that, they'll have to do it while getting behind a Cruz, or a Carson, or a Walker. If they do it while supporting Jeb!, or Kasich, or Christie, or (f*ck me) Mitt!, they'll lose conservatives, probably forever.
If my voting (nationally) doesn't make a difference, then I'm going to stop doing it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Joe Biden, leaning over you and rubbing your back while nude post swim at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 03:13 PM (mf5HN)
----------------------------------
Thank you, AtC. I was trying to think of the wording to respond to this and you did it well.
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:15 PM (Fmupd)
These guys need to be punished.
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:18 PM (9221z)
Oh, his dicks were coming out of him? Nevermind.
Posted by: Miss Lindsey at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (0q2P7)
Rush said just that yesterday.
I would not vote for romney just like i would never vote for jeb.
And i was a romney volunteer in 2012.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (S85kT)
I'll never forget that after the election it came out that Romney went into his first debate with Obama intimidated. Thought he would lose.
Been running for president pretty much his whole life and wasn't sure he could make the case for what he believed in, against a hard core leftist.
Posted by: CJ at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (9KqcB)
All threads after 100 posts become ONT
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:06
Hmmm. I did not know that.
-----------------------------
256 203 Anna, I got willowed downstairs. Thanks you guys for not posting Nood.
-------------------------------
I did to logprof
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (+c55T)
"How much does the GOPe hate the base that they'd rather lose with Romney than win with a Trump or Cruz type?"
While I am sure they hate the base, they want a GOPe candidate to win since he will grease the right palms, appoint the right people, etc. In short, maintain the status quo.
No guarantees that will be the case if Trump, Cruz, or Carson win.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 03:20 PM (0x/TW)
Now willow passed away too? Is there something toxic in the threads?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 03:20 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: mirror universe ann romney at September 02, 2015 03:20 PM (ScUhd)
He could match Hillary year for year....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Everyone at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: General Zod at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (oVJmc)
Bravo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 02:45 PM (gf8BH)
Jeb? throws hanging pitch over the plate, Trump hits grand slam and taunts Rubio while running the bases.
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (Y90kj)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (VLTL9)
But he is still GOPe, make no bones about it, and he will not give D.C. the enema it needs. Kasich is a little more than "Jeb with a pulse", but that is probably how his supporters are shipping him around the RNC right now. Speaking of which, Jeb imploding already is proof that the usual GOPe game will not work this time. If Mitt wants in the RNC must be in full panic mode. Thanks to all the air time Trump is setting the tone and the pace for the GOP race. Posted by: exdem13 at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (8ZskC)
AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!
Posted by: exdem13
Don't laugh; that's very possible.
Will mitt save republican chances for winning the WH?
AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: jewells45 at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 03:20 PM (8ZskC)
Burning Ewok hair is a known carcinogen
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 03:21 PM (ODxAs)
If you were told that you sure as hell weren't told it here. This place was non-stop anti-Romney from the primaries until a few weeks before the general election. We even had daily posts by DrewM slamming Romney and promoting his super duper conservative of the day, guys like Newt.
Romney won the nomination because, get this, he did a much better job of attracting voters than anyone else. Just like Trump is doing now. It's not magic and judging by the performance of Trump, Kaisich et al, it wasn't some mysterious and all powerful establishment.
It was a very long and damaging primary and because of stupid party rules Romney didn't get general election money until after the RNC in September while Obama had an entire year to whack away at him without an opponent and with the msm covering all his lies and failures.
The RNC seems to have learned a valuable lesson this time and moved the convention to an earlier time and there is also no Democrat incumbent. In fact, it's becoming increasingly likely that Hillary will not be the nominee and no, beating the likes of Bernie frigging Sanders is not the same as beating an incumbent Obama as much as we may hate the guy.
Reality is this should be a much easier cycle for whichever Republican candidate gets the nod now that Obama's chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (xWW96)
They don't realize that Democrats have earned that loyalty by actually delivering for their constituents.
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: El Kabong at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (FdOlH)
Couldn't have been "who will restore the country to it's former economic powerhouse and kick some foreigner ass".
Romney might've been the answer in 2008 or before but he's not been the answer for the last 8 years.
And he's just getting staler and staler.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (O7MnT)
And at this rate they never will.
Posted by: Iblis at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (9221z)
I like the field the way it's shaping up now. Non-professional politicians taking the lead.
I still would prefer Cruz to Trump, and Carson (luke warm) and Fiorina.
Any of those right now.
But if Romney got in and managed to get the nomination, I'd write in.
If any of the ones who have either sold us out, who have lied to us, or who hold views too inline with the establishment puppeteers, get the nomination, I won't give not one quintillionth of a whit who wins.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (iQIUe)
IIRC, Mitt won the nomination by going scorched Earth on his Republican opponents. Then, he turned around and played patty-cake with Obama.
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (O7MnT)
But, I'm not sure where the idea comes that he could do what Jeb, Rubio, and Kasich cannot. Even if Mitt received 100% of their support right off the bat, he'd still be losing to Trump.
And, I doubt Mitt would get 100% of that support. Or even 50%. He'd just split the establishment vote more. I could see people giving up on Jeb and going to Mitt, but are Rubio supporters really going to flock go Mitt?
And, like you, I have no idea who Kasich's supporters are.
Mitt is not an "electable" candidate. He proved that. He ran the worst race I have ever seen. He lost a race he would have won handily. Because he is not a fighter (except when fighting conservatives).
I don't see it. I don't see Mitt doing anything but making a fool of himself.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (3ZtZW)
1. Make Immigration Anarchy your number one priority. Be the Law and Order Candidate and promise to clean the stables.
2. Attack Birth Right Citizenship as a rape of Black America's 14th Amendment Civil Rights. Blame the Dems heavily for giving away Black Americas hard earned status to Asians and Latins. Cut away 15% of the black vote and destroy the Dem Party.
3. Demonstrate Youth and Vigor.
4. Demonstrate Honest and Competent Executive Experience.
Viola - you win a 48 state landslide.
Can anyone suggest a candidate that could do this?
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (IN7k+)
And about the same thing with Perry. I was really hoping he was the experienced conservative in 2012 so we would not get Dem light and then lose and he dropped out before I could caucus for him - this time I'm not wasting hope on him.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (dkExz)
I'd throw in total dependency on govt programs too, but yes. You don't seem much failure theater and compromise from Dem leaders, do you?
Posted by: El Kabong at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (FdOlH)
Posted by: jewells45 at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 02:46 PM (OGm46)
Romney ran to the right of everyone (tepid anti-illegal immigration) in the primary and then drifted left in the general. Did Mitt articulate in any way that immigration was for the benefit of citizens?
Does it matter if Trump or Jeb? shiv me in the back? At least with Trump I know I ruined the day for Jeb?.
Payoffs. People harassing Trump supporters don't understand their rational reasons for supporting Trump.
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (Y90kj)
----------------------
titty bar, Twitter.
tomato, tomahto.
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: WOPR at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (Y90kj)
Posted by: logprof
-----------------------
Heh.
I'm down to that now, too. Or a long road trip.
Have a flight coming up in 2 weeks. Was going to read Anna's on the way to TX & yours on the way home...
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (L2Ssy)
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (ETxiG)
If Romney can't handle that, he deserves to lose. And Orca shows that he was a loser. A sucker. Worthless waste of conservative effort.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (OGm46)
------------------
I agree. That's why Trumps should be the winner. It's time to put the knife in and start twisting.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (LXJ1e)
Mitt slipped Rick Perry the quaalude.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 03:26 PM (evdj2)
Caca de vaca.
Oh, sure, the main-page support was... tepid, but a) once he was the nominee, the blog swung behind him and b) his own campaign was tepid.
On the other hand, there were voices (yours among them) here in the comments constantly calling the rest of us idiots (and worse) for daring to want an actual conservative over the "electable" Mitt Romney.
Then we can get to the DOPe media who went all Romney. Because "electable."
But now the shoe is on the other foot. The one looking electable (that is: with lots of cross-over potential) is not "your guy," and you can't take it. Which I get - no one likes it when their side starts losing power. But don't pretend to be surprised. It was the DOPe that started this war with the base; we're just fighting back.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 03:26 PM (kff5f)
candidate gets the nod now that Obama's chickens have come home to
roost."
could you please tell me what combination of drugs, etc, that you use to reach this mental state?
i would like to live in an alternate universe also...
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 03:26 PM (lsWof)
He really fucked himself when in 2014 he said we should try to out amnesty obama. Winner for gop.
So now we know where he truly is. No thanks.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 02, 2015 03:26 PM (S85kT)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:27 PM (oVJmc)
Seriously, has he thought about how he is going to counter the war on women, hates the 47% poor, hates dogs, gives people cancer, gaffe prone loser, last boss you had and hated, MSM narrative?
I'm not a Trump person but if those narratives were thrown at him, he's just laugh and call the people trying to smear him losers. And people would love him for it. We need that kind of moxie, need someone to push against the narrative. I like Romney as a person but he ain't it this season.
Posted by: LizLem at September 02, 2015 03:27 PM (hvf9s)
I have literally no idea whatsoever as to what people find appealing in Kasich in the first place.
....................
Wut? Yer not on the Kasich Juggernaut Bandwagon?
Posted by: Registered RINO at September 02, 2015 03:27 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 03:19 PM (0q2P7)
-------------------------------------------
Rush was saying this yesterday. Sad state of affairs we have. Glad this is happening now instead of next summer.
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:27 PM (Fmupd)
This is the time to take everyone of these unsupported allegations and speculations as one hundred percent gospel truth and break into a complete panic!
OMIGOD! GOPe IS GONNA FOIST ROMNEY ON US!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (hLRSq)
--I've made this point before, but it's interesting that while Hillary! is younger than both Sanders and Trump, she's by far the least youthful of the three, very much in every way tarred and haggard-looking.
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (vsbNu)
But only if we want to beat the Dems like a rented mule, that is. And it is not clear that anybody with an (R) after their name, except the two above, really does. That is their critical qualification.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (rM5ep)
No way he will run if his wife is against it this strongly.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (a31sM)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (nFICN)
You seem to forget that Romney wasn't the only one. Perry with his vulture capitalist attack on Romney, Newt buying that dumb movie from a liberal hit team,etc.. Romney was just better at it that the others. And I don't agree that Romney played patty cake. He obviously didn't do enough to win but the idea that he just gave up is silly blog crap.
Same thing is happening right now. Trump is slamming everyone and they are starting to slam him back. Welcome to presidential politics.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (OGm46)
----------------------
titty bar, Twitter.
tomato, tomahto.
Posted by: Roy
Well....he DID say that he was more comfortable doing things there that he wouldn't do here......he said that i was too.....mean..(sniff)...it's only because i care!
Posted by: Moron alone on Saturday night, or Wednesday afternoon at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (Spluw)
"Orca! Orca! get out of the water! Orca!"
Gee, thanks Guy. It's not like I was trying to eat or anything.
Remind me to swing by and slap the corndog out of your hand when you're about to take a bite.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (+aCe4)
With Romney, it's still there, but I can't place it.
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (kQBSd)
Posted by: Ace at 02:36 PM
Precisely this.
2008 was a surprise, 2012 caused me to lose faith in the electorate, and 2014 caused me to lose all faith in the Republican party. I guess 2016 is when I lose all faith in the political process.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Moron alone on Saturday night, or Wednesday afternoon at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: mc at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (xuXpE)
Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (5fSr7)
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 02, 2015 03:23 PM (BZAd3)
I would suggest adopting that attitude now. I have learned my lesson from 2008, and 2010, and 2012, and 2014.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: John Kasich at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (W5DcG)
Whether or not you should vote for Mitt Romney hinges on only one issue. Do you want to win? Mitt Romney can win.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: jewells45 at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Hank Johnson (D-Stupidity) at September 02, 2015 03:30 PM (MqjGP)
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (RD7QR)
------
Actually, make that the Last TWO times.
Posted by: Wisrich at September 02, 2015 03:31 PM (hdpay)
Aaaand this is why Trump's polling is so high.
He has no f$#@s to give for anyone's insults or "offense" and it's been so long since we've seen a politician (or anyone) react this way it's exciting. I really want others like Cruz and Walker to follow Trump's lead on this...
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 03:31 PM (NOIQH)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkaveikyikE
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:31 PM (kQBSd)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (kQBSd)
Trump. Think of the bribes he can afford to distribute. Plus his head weasel would intimidate everybody.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at September 02, 2015 03:32 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (kQBSd)
Trump. Think of the bribes he can afford to distribute. Plus his head weasel would intimidate everybody.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system
let's not be hasty. We may not have the votes for that.
Posted by: Mitch the bitch at September 02, 2015 03:33 PM (Spluw)
Payoffs. People harassing Trump supporters don't understand their rational reasons for supporting Trump.
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at September 02, 2015 03:25 PM (Y90kj)
That actually brings up an idea we see in Canadian politics called strategic voting.
Nationally, we have our Conservative Party (conservative...for Canada but Harper is a good man) and on the left we have the Liberals, NDP, Green Party and the Bloc Quebecois.
In elections, the winner is the candidate with the most votes. So what happens is people will often figure their candidate has no chance of winning, so they will support another candidate they believe has a better shot to defeat the person they do not want elected. The electoral enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Trump is benefiting from the disaffected people of both parties who have been stabbed in the back and are sick and tired. I believe if he were running as a Democrat, he'd have strong numbers there as well. When people are sick and tired of being lied to, anyone outside looks good.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 02, 2015 03:33 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: homer simpson at September 02, 2015 03:33 PM (7eC3Q)
Was the son of a postal man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a postal man
Yes he was, he was, ooh, yes he was
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:33 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (kQBSd)
---------------------------
Before I answer, is Boehner still Speaker of the House then?
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 03:34 PM (VndSC)
The further we go in the wrong direction the more extreme measures are necessary for correction. Hence why Romney was preferred in '08, persona non-grata in '12, and now a complete joke. Romney's year when he was the "good enough" guy came and went when Battlestar Galactica and Deal or No Deal were still making new episodes.
We've gone a long way in the wrong direction since then, we need more extreme measures than mild mannered mitt can possibly provide.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 02, 2015 03:35 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 03:22 PM (OGm46)
Are.
You.
Fucking.
Kidding.
Me.
With.
This.
Shit.
Now, to be fair to you, you appear to be discussing the blog posts. I am discussing the comments.
You cannot possibly, I mean there is no possible way, that you can sit there and type that there was not every thread sneering about shut up TruCons and vote for the MittBot Electable 2012 Tron. You cannot because that would be a level of denial of reality that is a bridge too far.
Those of us who expressed our concerns over Mitt were told precisely the line you are espousing here. There was no Establishment. Mitt was the nominee because he won the primaries. Sit down and shut up and be good little foot soldiers and go out there and vote and ORCA BITCHES! ORCA!!!
It requires Marvel level retcon to deny that.
My stars and garters, what part of you can only lie to people for so long and shove their faces in shit for so long before those people will snap and go after your throat is so difficult to comprehend?
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 03:35 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Roy
Yep, you still have Boehner AND Mitch.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:35 PM (kQBSd)
Obama started hitting him below the belt and Romney couldn't muster anything beyond being shocked - shocked! - that Obama would resort to such demagoguery.
We live in a country now where the lowest form of wit - teenage-style sarcasm and personal attacks/mockery that anyone who remembers what they were like at 14 recognizes - gets you the highest return. In politics, entertainment, whatever. The Mitt Romneys of the world haven't realized that and probably never will.
Posted by: deepelemblues at September 02, 2015 03:36 PM (LdJfm)
At this point in the 2016 cycle, nobody is ahead of anybody else. Because no votes have actually happened. Until that Iowa caucus happens, nobody is a "front-runner" or a "favorite" or anything else.
Trump is running as every douche-bag progressive's worst caricature of a conservative. I personally believe that he and his "close, personal friends," who he has said on numerous occasions are "fabulous people," the Clintons, put him out there for two reasons: to give him something to do that "builds his brand" and to try to fuck the Republican party with Hispanic voters.
Why do that? Because the Dems are smart enough to understand that black voters have no interest in coming out in droves for a ticket without Obama on it, and they can't afford to see any erosion in the Hispanic vote as a consequence. The Republican ticket is likely to have at least one member who is Hispanic, speaks fluent Spanish, or as in Rubio's case, both. So, they had to try to neutralize that prior to the election and Trump is trying to do that.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 03:36 PM (ljZD2)
Head weasel jumps off his head, brandishes knives in both hands and swings them around. Dems don't believe in icky guns so cannot shoot the weasel Indiana Jones style. Give up and Trump is declared winnah!
I like it.
Posted by: LizLem at September 02, 2015 03:36 PM (hvf9s)
Was the son of a postal man
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a postal man
Yes he was, he was, ooh, yes he was
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 03:33 PM (oVJmc)
--LMAO reminded me of this:
https://youtu.be/kUoQRzHLX6E
Posted by: logprof at September 02, 2015 03:36 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 03:36 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: jewells45 at September 02, 2015 03:29 PM (l/N7H)
Willow's back?
Oh. Um. Gee. Sorry about that accidental trebucheting yesterday. It's Buzzion's corpse's fault that you got flung into a Canadian freighter.
Blame and sue him.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (wyNrR)
Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: wrg500 at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (kQBSd)
---------------------------
Before I answer, is Boehner still Speaker of the House then?
-------------------------
Well if it goes to the Supremes you know we're fucked. Judge Roberts
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 03:38 PM (oDCMR)
obviously didn't do enough to win but the idea that he just gave up is
silly blog crap.
posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 03:28 PM (OGm46)
No. That is not silly - it is fact. I argued constantly during the primary that Romney would never take the fight to Obama. And he never did. He sat back and expected that the bad economy would hand him the win. He did nothing positive to try and win. He had no GOTV in place. He never really attacked Obama. He did next to nothing. Even his lauded debate performances were sad and "low energy".
Romney rolled over.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 02, 2015 03:38 PM (3ZtZW)
Thank you for posting what I was too gobsmacked to say.
2012 should have dispelled a lot of illusions with regards to electability and viable campaign strategies, and yet here we are.
Again.
Posted by: Paul Krugtron at September 02, 2015 03:38 PM (Wckf4)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 03:39 PM (Wckf4)
I'm going solely on history here. The last candidate to run for president after losing a general election was Nixon. It just doesn't happen any more.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 02, 2015 03:40 PM (ahUrW)
Posted by: Soona at September 02, 2015 03:40 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: We Be Boned at September 02, 2015 03:41 PM (oDCMR)
moneymen don't run batter town this election.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 02, 2015 03:09 PM (eDW1j)
Pancakes cometh from pig shit....and me King syrup A-rab.
EMBARGO ON!
Posted by: MasterBlaster at September 02, 2015 03:42 PM (1QsMy)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 02, 2015 03:37 PM (hLRSq)
Can we sue Buzzion even though he's dead?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 02, 2015 03:42 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Is that what the kids call those these days? Huh. Kids are weird.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 03:42 PM (/Ho8c)
While I generally agree with your critique, you have to admit compared to McCain's campaign (apart from Palin) Romney looked like Patton on a meth bender.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 02, 2015 03:43 PM (TULs6)
were told precisely the line you are espousing here. There was no
Establishment. Mitt was the nominee because he won the primaries. Sit
down and shut up and be good little foot soldiers and go out there and
vote and ORCA BITCHES! ORCA!!!
It requires Marvel level retcon to deny that.
My stars and garters, what part of you can only lie to people for so
long and shove their faces in shit for so long before those people will
snap and go after your throat is so difficult to comprehend?
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 03:35 PM (mf5HN)
*swoons* Abso-effen-lutely!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 02, 2015 03:44 PM (JO9+V)
Arguably he didn't lose. They probably decided when his turn would be when he met with Kennedy.
Posted by: justSo at September 02, 2015 03:45 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 03:24 PM (O7MnT)
Yep. And Obama is beloved by the left for doing precisely the opposite. He kisses the asses of America's enemies, and he's utterly ruthless when it comes to American conservatives - because, like the GOPe, he sees us as the real enemy.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 02, 2015 03:46 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 02, 2015 03:42 PM (u0lmX)
His ghost is still commenting here so he does have ties to the mortal plane and hence jurisdiction can attach.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 02, 2015 03:46 PM (hLRSq)
Moo.
Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 02, 2015 03:46 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 02, 2015 03:40 PM (ahUrW)
And Nixon didn't run in 1964.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 02, 2015 03:48 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Jorge Ramos at September 02, 2015 03:50 PM (6gR7l)
Does Buzzion's Ghost have money? If so, I wish to sue his ghost because I apparently was not mentioned in his will. I find that to be offensively sexist.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 02, 2015 03:50 PM (u0lmX)
America said "no" in 2012.
What part of "no" doesn't he understand?"
Don't forget, Republicans said "no" in 2008, and, only (at best) "Aw, fuck it, may as well" in 2012.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 02, 2015 03:50 PM (amQXf)
Posted by: justSo at September 02, 2015 03:51 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: RIK at September 02, 2015 03:51 PM (uPwpt)
The establishment will have Kasich as the nominee by this time next year.
The election: Kasich vs. Biden. I have multiple bets riding on this eventual outcome.
Two old white guys who may or may not be all that different from each other.
Posted by: the other coyote at September 02, 2015 03:53 PM (yK44T)
I'll say the same thing about Carson. Just not ready for the obvious rigors ahead." Soona
I agree with THAT. We need a guy that goes in with guns blazing, not a rules of engagement, can't break any of the PC dishes, guy.
Dem's do that, and they are hateful, liars, stupid ... but win on boldness (and msm and hollywood help) Mitt backed down to Candy Crowley ... "oh, I'm sorry, did BHO say that? excuse me" He should have roared back, said no way, I heard that wimpy speech ... they blamed that video guy for weeks.
First debate Mitt was strong, then decided he had the numbers, let's not be aggressive and offend anyone. Need to see Mitt get enraged that our country might be lost, not his measured ... well at least we will go to heaven, and we just need to be nice as the country burns ... be nice to our invaders.
Patrick Swayze .... be nice, till it's time to NOT be nice. Road House.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 02, 2015 03:55 PM (6zZ5y)
Clueless
Corrupt
Crony
Content to continue LOSING !!!!
Romney is really being abused by his consultants to even hint this is the answer to save them from what exactly?
Posted by: palinbeatsturdblossom at September 02, 2015 03:58 PM (/qiij)
Trump's primary appeal is he appears to be a fighter.
Mitt's primary drawback during 2012 was he appeared to be a squish who wouldn't take on Obama, even when he was right on the issues.
Its like somehow the Establishment has learned all the wrong lessons from the Trump surge. Ok, sorry, they've learned nothing and I should know better than to think they can be taught.
The disconnect is strong with them.
Posted by: Baboo the Occelot at September 02, 2015 04:03 PM (vDEpI)
Posted by: justSo at September 02, 2015 04:03 PM (PGh+Q)
OK so this whole thing about "gotta have the Hispanic vote." That prick Geraldo said the same thing on the TV either last night or this morning. Just in my lifetime, Hispanics have gone from "a very small minority of people who live in border states, second maybe to blacks, maybe thirdto Asians, in number" to "people who decide the election."
I'm going with Trump on the 14th amendment thing, because nowadays, newly minted citizens, who BTW 72% of whom are taking welfare,can vote themselves more of my money. Fuck that noise.
Posted by: the other coyote at September 02, 2015 04:05 PM (yK44T)
Posted by: tu3031 at September 02, 2015 04:05 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: justSo at September 02, 2015 04:06 PM (PGh+Q)
What part of "no" doesn't he understand?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 02, 2015 02:38 PM (KCQo0)
I think the Republicans have secretly been brewing up huge batches of date rape drugs they are going to use on election day to get us to vote for Jeb! or Romney or whatever piece of crap candidate we end up with. Of course this plan will backfire and all the roofied voters will end up voting D.
Posted by: AdamPM at September 02, 2015 04:07 PM (nkNmj)
Posted by: the other coyote at September 02, 2015 04:08 PM (yK44T)
Mr. Hedge Fund! The Mummy! Mr. Country Club! Ace I think underestimate the damage the GOP donor class has done to the party. The only faction they have left is the donor class (since they just kicked the hawks under the bus in the Iran deal), which is why the people supporting Rubio, Kasich, and Bush combined cannot catch Trump. Mittens cannot change that considering he had a hard time putting away guys like Santorum. The ONLY hope the GOP now has it so to get behind someone like Cruz and hope he can save them...which they won't do and Cruz is more likely to give them a anchor than a life preserver considering what they have tried to do to him.
These people are so egotistical they have lost touch with reality. Trump is an ego manic too...but one who clearly still living in our world.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 04:14 PM (q52Ma)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 02, 2015 04:15 PM (amQXf)
Posted by: scrood at September 02, 2015 04:20 PM (3b9U4)
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 02, 2015 04:21 PM (TULs6)
Mr. Hedge Fund! The Mummy! Mr. Country Club! Ace I think underestimate the damage the GOP donor class has done to the party. The only faction they have left is the donor class (since they just kicked the hawks under the bus in the Iran deal), which is why the people supporting Rubio, Kasich, and Bush combined cannot catch Trump. Mittens cannot change that considering he had a hard time putting away guys like Santorum. The ONLY hope the GOP now has it so to get behind someone like Cruz and hope he can save them...which they won't do and Cruz is more likely to give them a anchor than a life preserver considering what they have tried to do to him.
These people are so egotistical they have lost touch with reality. Trump is an ego manic too...but one who clearly still living in our world.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 04:14 PM (q52Ma)
----------------
GOP donor class will go with Hilary, or Biden, or just sit it out. In that order.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 04:23 PM (LXJ1e)
This seems odd as he didn't seem to want to run when he was actually running.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 02, 2015 04:34 PM (1Y+hH)
----------------
GOP donor class will go with Hilary, or Biden, or just sit it out. In that order.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 04:23 PM (LXJ1e)
If we got a good candidate I'm not sure how much we'd need the donor class. I don't know to many people that are still tied to traditional media anyway.
Posted by: AdamPM at September 02, 2015 04:39 PM (nkNmj)
Trump is what happens when a party is dying. They've been irrelevant for a while, but I didn't want to face the facts. I'll never vote for a republican again. Maybe not fair to Cruz, but there it is.
Hillary is a proven liar, as we all know. Repubs are just the same. Addicted to the money.
Posted by: Lonestarwhacko at September 02, 2015 04:46 PM (CEB0l)
Posted by: bour3 at September 02, 2015 05:17 PM (5x3+2)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 02, 2015 06:12 PM (EPtLe)
Posted by: Iggy Slanter at September 02, 2015 06:29 PM (PTCiR)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 02, 2015 07:33 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Randy at September 02, 2015 08:13 PM (wxQ53)
Posted by: Buffalbob at September 02, 2015 08:36 PM (nIzfh)
Posted by: Dogbert at September 02, 2015 09:55 PM (qjku1)
Go, Donald! It's your birthday!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 02, 2015 10:33 PM (wKc1L)
If they pick him again they will not only lose, but completely destroy themselves and possibly the country -- but this will only be so if there is a brokered convention. Brokered convention, plus either Romney or Bush winning will likely bring out the pitchforks. This is especially with what is likely to be coming news-wise from the markets in the next 6 months or so. I'm sure some people have checked out the Arms index as well as the Baltic dry goods.
I'm not sure I'd even want to be known to have supported an establishment person if what appears to be coming is coming.
Posted by: unknown j. at September 02, 2015 10:49 PM (B6sgj)
Posted by: unknown j. at September 02, 2015 10:50 PM (B6sgj)
George H. W. Bush is still eligible for 1 more term.
Posted by: Severely Conservative at September 02, 2015 11:00 PM (p6UPL)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Camacho 2016! at September 03, 2015 12:14 AM (wKc1L)
Posted by: Wayne at September 03, 2015 02:35 PM (5JpAk)
Processing 0.05, elapsed 0.0604 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0277 seconds, 419 records returned.
Page size 210 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.
Real Clear Politics
Gallup
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)