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BREAKING: Failure Theater Alert! Iran Deal Will Survive Senate Vote
BREAKING: Pres. Obama secures enough Senate support to protect Iran nuclear deal after Sen. Mikulski pledges support to deal.
— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) September 2, 2015
That's 34 votes for the deal, with 10 Democrats still to announce their position. No doubt some will now bravely come out against it when their vote no longer matters. I'm looking at you Joe Manchin. This means the "resolution of disapproval" will fail so Obama won't even have to veto anything. It will just fade away in the Senate and that will be that. Congratulations to Iran on their new nuclear weapons. Oh and get used to this, September is going to be Failure Theater month.... There will be no fight over funding Planned Parenthood. The Continuing Resolution will bust the sequester caps which means spending will go up and they will probably sneak a debt ceiling hike and a re-authorization of the EX/IM bank in there as well. But there's nothing the GOP can do about this. Nothing at all. And they will never be able to do anything according the star of Failure Theater, Mitch McConnell.(via @danholler)
“The Senate Democrats have a big enough number to prevent us from doing things. They prevented us from doing any of the bills that appropriate money for the government, thereby forcing a negotiation when we go back in after Labor Day, which I’ll be engaged in with the administration and others to try to sort out how much we’re going to spend and where we’re going to spend it,” McConnell told WYMT in Hazard, Ky. ... During the wide-ranging interview, McConnell also responded to a viewer who questioned him on cutting off funding to Planned Parenthood. McConnell said he had led on the issue, but that the numbers were against him. “We just don’t have the votes to get the outcome that we’d like,” McConnell said. “I would remind all of your viewers: The way you make a law in this country, the Congress has to pass it and the president has to sign it. The president has made it very clear he’s not going to sign any bill that includes defunding of Planned Parenthood, so that’s another issue that awaits a new president hopefully with a different point of view about Planned Parenthood.”Pretty sure this should count as an in-kind contribution to Ted Cruz's campaign. It is going to be interesting to see who was opposed to the ObamaCare shutdown and who supports a shutdown over this. I'm going to need to order some extra popcorn. The big thing is if McConnell is saying the GOP can never get what it wants unless it has 60 votes, there's no point in voting for a GOP Senate candidate. There have never been 60 GOP Senators at the same time and you will never get 60 GOP votes in the Senate. Hell, even if you did, do you think there wouldn't be a few traitors in the bunch who stick with the Democrats? It's kind of funny because when the Democrats didn't have 60 votes in the Senate they were still able to get things they wanted. But nope, that doesn't work for the GOP. Of course Harry Reid was able to find Republicans who would sellout to him. McConnell doesn't even seem to try. And even if he can't get their votes, why isn't he making them vote against things that they can be hammered with back home? But hey, you crazy pro-lifers will get your show vote in the House on Planned Parenthoodwhile the big boys get what they want in the CR. Are you not entertained? Whatever, keep volunteering and voting GOP and turning in for future episodes of GOP Failure Theater.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 10:33 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 10:34 AM (m3iiU)
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I am not
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 10:34 AM (m3iiU)
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I got silver! I'm the FIRST loser! YAYYYYY!
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (m3iiU)
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Go team!
Posted by: holygoat at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (EF69c)
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I just a rustling from over by Israel.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (1Y+hH)
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Land of Our Fathers stomped. In many ways.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (SCcgT)
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Stalin had his show trials. We have our show congress.
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (XUKZU)
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Just more proof the GOPe has fused with the dems
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 10:35 AM (m3iiU)
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That's because you pig-ignorant Reich-wing haters still cling to the delusion that you matter to anyone in the ruling class. Go back to your Jesusland hellhole trailer parks. Stick to cooking meth and banging your sisters while the selected ones run things. What you call "failure theater" is the inevitable result of the illumination of humanity under the correctly thinking persons.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 10:36 AM (qj9hG)
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Israel warming up the jets, or rather Netanyahu is .
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 02, 2015 10:36 AM (R8hU8)
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Mitch McConnell, DIAF already.
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at September 02, 2015 10:36 AM (QHysE)
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I have a dream.
Trump creates a 3rd party (yeah, a Democrat, but whatever, he's got the money to do it). Cruz, Jindal, even Rand, Fiorina, Carson, et al, merge into it.
Wave goodbye. It might take years, but if done correctly, replace the GOP altogether.
I have a dream.
Trump creates a 3rd party (yeah, a Democrat, but whatever, he's got the money to do it). Cruz, Jindal, even Rand, Fiorina, Carson, et al, merge into it.
Wave goodbye. It might take years, but if done correctly, replace the GOP altogether.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 10:36 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (MQEz6)
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Let's all make sure to keep voting GOP! We wouldn't want the Democrats to just do whatever they want! We need to vote GOP to keep the Democrats in check!
VOTE GOP!
VOTE GOP!
Posted by: holygoat at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (EF69c)
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You really think anyone who will ever be allowed to win an election will do anything contrary to the interests of the worldwide elites? No. It doesn't work that way and hasn't ever since the Reagan Administration was subverted.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (qj9hG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (qCMvj)
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And people are shocked that conservatives say "what the Hell, give this Trump guy a chance!"
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal! At least maybe he will give us a wall on the border. Even if that is all he does, it would be more than the GOP usually gives us.
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal! At least maybe he will give us a wall on the border. Even if that is all he does, it would be more than the GOP usually gives us.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (COpZ4)
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No surprise. Not sure it even warrants a thread.
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (xWW96)
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Where's the flaming skull, um I mean skyline?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (1Y+hH)
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At least McConnell has stopped even pretending that he's going to fight.
This time he didn't even try Ye Olde We Can't Fight On The Budget But We Will On The Debt Ceiling (yet anyway).
This time he didn't even try Ye Olde We Can't Fight On The Budget But We Will On The Debt Ceiling (yet anyway).
Posted by: gwelf at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (nyxv/)
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The Senate Democrats have a big enough number to prevent us from doing things. They prevented us from doing any of the bills that appropriate money for the government...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine
Just STFU, McConnell. STFU.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine
Just STFU, McConnell. STFU.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (75uvI)
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Uni Party for the win!
Hahahahs! Suckers....
Hahahahs! Suckers....
Posted by: Yertle mcTurtle at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (rJEUr)
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You really think anyone who will ever be allowed to win an election will do anything contrary to the interests of the worldwide elites? No. It doesn't work that way and hasn't ever since the Reagan Administration was subverted.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (qj9hG)
Hai Mary. Your slip is showing.
Yes, it's been done in other countries.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 10:37 AM (qj9hG)
Hai Mary. Your slip is showing.
Yes, it's been done in other countries.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 10:39 AM (qCMvj)
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Hmm, seems like old news rather than breaking news. Same old, same old.
Posted by: NCkate at September 02, 2015 10:39 AM (MG4zH)
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Where's the flaming skull, um I mean skyline?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (1Y+hH)
You mean mushroom cloud.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 02, 2015 10:38 AM (1Y+hH)
You mean mushroom cloud.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2015 10:39 AM (qCMvj)
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They will have to fillibuster the Iran bill. Not allow it to come to a vote. Can they do that? Yeah probably. Can the Republicans do something to prevent that? Yeah also probably if they had balls. They could change the rules like Reid and the Dems did, but as I said that would take balls. AND all this will help the Trumps, Carson, and Fiorino, Cruz, and anyone NOT associate with that cesspool in DC.
SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN
SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:39 AM (gf8BH)
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So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (0x/TW)
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So clearly, the solution is to give the Democrats that made the Iran deal, more power?
We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal.
Obama really gets his cake and eat it too. He fucks everything up, and then conservatives blame the GOP because Obama fucks everything up, with conservatives telling each other we should hand Democrats more power to tech Republicans a lesson.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal.
Obama really gets his cake and eat it too. He fucks everything up, and then conservatives blame the GOP because Obama fucks everything up, with conservatives telling each other we should hand Democrats more power to tech Republicans a lesson.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
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Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 02, 2015 10:36 AM (R8hU
Talk with Nevergiveup about that.
Netanyahu is more of a showman and less of a doer than he seems.
Talk with Nevergiveup about that.
Netanyahu is more of a showman and less of a doer than he seems.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (Zu3d9)
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Iran doesn't mean it when they chang death to Israel and death to America. BLM doesn't mean it when they chant pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. But McConnell means it when he says he fought as hard as he could.
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 02, 2015 10:41 AM (XUKZU)
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This is what happens when children don't get punished for bad behavior.
Posted by: spypeach at September 02, 2015 10:41 AM (KTiWT)
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So, can somebody not stick defunding PP into this shit sandwich of a overt act of treason?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:41 AM (/Ho8c)
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Vote for me, and I'll at least hire good actors for failure theater!
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at September 02, 2015 10:41 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 10:42 AM (LA7Cm)
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I have noods for you nitwits. Most self identified evangelicals and pro lifers are going to vote UniParty in 2016. Hahaha losers
Posted by: Yertle mcTurtle at September 02, 2015 10:42 AM (rJEUr)
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No reason to support the GOP. None.
The left has everything it wants and the GOP stops absolutely nothing.
The GOP gave Iran nuclear weapons and is giving money to people who sell baby parts.
Could they have stopped it? They never even tried.
But Ex-Im? The GOP will fight for that.
The left has everything it wants and the GOP stops absolutely nothing.
The GOP gave Iran nuclear weapons and is giving money to people who sell baby parts.
Could they have stopped it? They never even tried.
But Ex-Im? The GOP will fight for that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (OqR5R)
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Talk with Nevergiveup about that.
Netanyahu is more of a showman and less of a doer than he seems.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (Zu3d9)
yup.
The good news: But he will not be Prime Minister for ever.
The Bad News: He may be the best of a bad lot
Netanyahu is more of a showman and less of a doer than he seems.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (Zu3d9)
yup.
The good news: But he will not be Prime Minister for ever.
The Bad News: He may be the best of a bad lot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Sigh McGinty at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (nFICN)
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The GOPe lost me with the Fence Act of 2005. What happened to all that money?
Posted by: Valiant at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (2bqlb)
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So, can somebody not stick defunding PP into this shit sandwich of a overt act of treason?
What?! Implement the will of the majority of the people?
Shirley, you jest.
What?! Implement the will of the majority of the people?
Shirley, you jest.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (LUgeY)
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#24, the priority is breaking the United States. Once the of aberrant human liberty is extinguished and a hundred million rednecks are disarmed, aid ceases to flow to other trouble spots.
The illuminated play a long game. America was a useful pawn to break the monarchies of Europe, but her time is at an end. Islam is the more useful tool now, then it will be ended.
In time, all will be as designed.
The illuminated play a long game. America was a useful pawn to break the monarchies of Europe, but her time is at an end. Islam is the more useful tool now, then it will be ended.
In time, all will be as designed.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (qj9hG)
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Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
The opposite is true.
The gope and the Democrats are just two sides if the same coin.
The gope works more and harder to help Obama than to oppose him.
The opposite is true.
The gope and the Democrats are just two sides if the same coin.
The gope works more and harder to help Obama than to oppose him.
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Coop at September 02, 2015 10:44 AM (W5DcG)
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Not that this is on topic, but CCW Cooke ever shut up already? He's not a US citizen. Every opinion he gives should be prefaced with "As a foreigner," etc.
Posted by: bjk at September 02, 2015 10:44 AM (pFSJT)
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News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Without the GOP, bakers could wind up in jail for their religion, the confederate flag could get banned, Iran could get nukes, and babies could be chopped up and sold for parts!
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Without the GOP, bakers could wind up in jail for their religion, the confederate flag could get banned, Iran could get nukes, and babies could be chopped up and sold for parts!
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:45 AM (OqR5R)
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"So clearly, the solution is to give the Democrats that made the Iran deal, more power? We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal."
There's a sort of puppyish cuteness in the way that many people still look at the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party and still earnestly claim to be able to discern "the GOP" from "the Democrats". Like picking out imagined faces in a billowing cloud.
There's a sort of puppyish cuteness in the way that many people still look at the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party and still earnestly claim to be able to discern "the GOP" from "the Democrats". Like picking out imagined faces in a billowing cloud.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (noWW6)
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So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
The 12th of Never
Nobody is going to nuke anybody until Iran nukes some Sunni's first.
Doha, Riyadh, one of those places. Or maybe Tikrit or some other Sunni town in Iraq. 'Cause they're allies now. Iran knows they will get nukes back if they attack Israel.
The whole world would turn on Israel if they nuked Iran with a pre-emptive strike.
One thing for sure, and it's in no doubt. Obama's policies will get a lot more Arabs/Persians/ Muslims killed, because they will kill each other.
It's what they've been doing for centuries. Think of it as evolution in action.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
The 12th of Never
Nobody is going to nuke anybody until Iran nukes some Sunni's first.
Doha, Riyadh, one of those places. Or maybe Tikrit or some other Sunni town in Iraq. 'Cause they're allies now. Iran knows they will get nukes back if they attack Israel.
The whole world would turn on Israel if they nuked Iran with a pre-emptive strike.
One thing for sure, and it's in no doubt. Obama's policies will get a lot more Arabs/Persians/ Muslims killed, because they will kill each other.
It's what they've been doing for centuries. Think of it as evolution in action.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (RFeQD)
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Look on the bright side: the public hates Irancare and, the more they know about it, the more they hate it. It is just one more thing we can bring up during the 2016 election.
Posted by: Sigh McGinty at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (nFICN)
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News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Unfortunetaly I agree with you. Pass the Bottle of Bourbon please
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Unfortunetaly I agree with you. Pass the Bottle of Bourbon please
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (gf8BH)
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Senator Mitch McConnell. I am so proud of you!
Posted by: Henri Phillippe Petain at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (6yehy)
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...Your gift of $35, $45, $75, or $150 will help us fight Obama..."
Posted by: In your email tonight at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (OqR5R)
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conservatives blame the GOP because Obama fucks everything up, with conservatives telling each other we should hand Democrats more power to tech Republicans a lesson.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal
News flash: Corker isn't obama
Mitch the bitch decided to keep the filibuster, not obama.
News flash: you ignored what Drew wrote. When dems were in the minority, even when Dubya was president, they were able to do more than the Stupid Party is doing in the EXACT SAME POSITION.
Go collect your pineapple.
Does that get me banned?
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal
News flash: Corker isn't obama
Mitch the bitch decided to keep the filibuster, not obama.
News flash: you ignored what Drew wrote. When dems were in the minority, even when Dubya was president, they were able to do more than the Stupid Party is doing in the EXACT SAME POSITION.
Go collect your pineapple.
Does that get me banned?
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (Spluw)
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What?! Implement the will of the majority of the people?
Shirley, you jest.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
I know, it's probably a stupid idea. But it seems like attempting to do so could jeopardize support of the Shit Sandwich of Self-Destructive Treason.
And don't call me Shirley.
Shirley, you jest.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
I know, it's probably a stupid idea. But it seems like attempting to do so could jeopardize support of the Shit Sandwich of Self-Destructive Treason.
And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:47 AM (/Ho8c)
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I am thinking this crew wouldn't be able to get a resolution for Mom and apple pie through a vote.
Posted by: blaster at September 02, 2015 10:47 AM (2Ocf1)
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Me too!
Posted by: Vidkun Quisling at September 02, 2015 10:47 AM (6yehy)
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And people are shocked that conservatives say "what the Hell, give this Trump guy a chance!"
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal! At least maybe he will give us a wall on the border. Even if that is all he does, it would be more than the GOPusually gives ever gave us.
If Trump builds the wall and enforces the law he will have done more than any of the entitled assholes in either party have done in the last 30 years.
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal! At least maybe he will give us a wall on the border. Even if that is all he does, it would be more than the GOP
If Trump builds the wall and enforces the law he will have done more than any of the entitled assholes in either party have done in the last 30 years.
Posted by: rd at September 02, 2015 10:48 AM (qidv2)
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Hopefully Iran will put those nukes to good use.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 10:48 AM (i23N/)
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With a base like this, Republicans don't need enemies.
Posted by: Squad Circular Firing Squad Circular Firing at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (nFICN)
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I would like to express my admiration for the Senator too.
Posted by: Leon DeGrelle at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (6yehy)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (VPLuQ)
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I am thinking this crew wouldn't be able to get a resolution for Mom and apple pie through a vote.
Posted by: blaster
Quite likely. Which again means there are two likely causes:
1) Legendary incompetence, or
2) Willful complicity and malice
I am thinking this crew wouldn't be able to get a resolution for Mom and apple pie through a vote.
Posted by: blaster
Quite likely. Which again means there are two likely causes:
1) Legendary incompetence, or
2) Willful complicity and malice
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (/Ho8c)
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Mitch is the Orson Welles of Failure Theater.
Posted by: tsj017 at September 02, 2015 10:50 AM (idmVd)
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59 With a base like this, Republicans don't need enemies.
Posted by: Squad Circular Firing Squad Circular Firing at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (nFICN)
I can't hear you over the mushroom clouds in the middle east.
Posted by: Squad Circular Firing Squad Circular Firing at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (nFICN)
I can't hear you over the mushroom clouds in the middle east.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:50 AM (OqR5R)
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With a base like this, Republicans don't need enemies.
Excuse me? Seems to me the Republican party is an enemy of the People.
Excuse me? Seems to me the Republican party is an enemy of the People.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:51 AM (/Ho8c)
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The GOP deserves the Trumpnado...
It is like when Genghis Khan started beating the shit out of Muslims after the Muslims demanded the Mongolians convert to Islam.
It is like when Genghis Khan started beating the shit out of Muslims after the Muslims demanded the Mongolians convert to Islam.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 10:51 AM (q52Ma)
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The Bad News: He may be the best of a bad lot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (gf8BH)
I think his survival instincts will guide him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:43 AM (gf8BH)
I think his survival instincts will guide him.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 02, 2015 10:51 AM (R8hU8)
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Damn Drew, you should read your own posts. I hate the GOP, you hate the GOP, we all hate the GOP. It's the same post every time.
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)
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58 Hopefully Iran will put those nukes to good use.
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Who will rid me of this meddlesome Israel?
-BO
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Who will rid me of this meddlesome Israel?
-BO
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (SCcgT)
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What ever happened to the Mongolians?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (i23N/)
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Look, I'll make this easy for you: Make a list of all the issue positions you like and expect in return for your vote.
That's the list of all the things the GOPe will never do for you.
See, that wasn't so hard, was it?
That's the list of all the things the GOPe will never do for you.
See, that wasn't so hard, was it?
Posted by: Senator Mitch McConell at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (LISuA)
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It is like when Genghis Khan started beating the shit out of Muslims after the Muslims demanded the Mongolians convert to Islam.
I remember him!
I remember him!
Posted by: Johnny Horseface at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (W5DcG)
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I simply don't see why the Republicans won't fight this one. Look at the numbers: the public overwhelmingly wants someone--anyone--to fight this treaty that somehow isn't a treaty. It doesn't make sense for a Republican politician to NOT want to oppose it--if only to ride a free and easy popularity wave with his or her constituents.
The big money Chamber of Commerce donors who own most national-level Republican politicians don't want a nuclear Iran, do they?
*shakes head* Can't figure this one out. No logic in it anywhere.
The big money Chamber of Commerce donors who own most national-level Republican politicians don't want a nuclear Iran, do they?
*shakes head* Can't figure this one out. No logic in it anywhere.
Posted by: troyriser at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Bvf82)
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Probably not even going to hold a vote to override the veto. Shit, they're probably not even going to make him veto it. Some shit head Republicans will just pass it. They don't want to force Obama to Veto anything else, why should they make him Veto this?
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (zt+N6)
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I have not yet begun to surrender!
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (75uvI)
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And I pledged to let Iran get a nuclear weapon if elected.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (OqR5R)
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The dog, he ate my homework.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (75uvI)
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What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/1!?!?!?!1!?1?
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/1!?!?!?!1!?1?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (HSmrB)
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Well this is kind of interesting. The US is threatening to put sanctions on specific companies in China, Russia and other for violating the trade restrictions against Iran. Restrictions that Obama pretty much made moot when he went to the UN Security Council with the Iran deal.
One of the companies being targeted is a chemical company in Tianjin, China the spot where one of the huge chemical explosions took place last week.
Things that make you go hmmmm.
http://tinyurl.com/pfeh86s
One of the companies being targeted is a chemical company in Tianjin, China the spot where one of the huge chemical explosions took place last week.
Things that make you go hmmmm.
http://tinyurl.com/pfeh86s
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (OGm46)
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I think his survival instincts will guide him.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 02, 2015 10:51 AM (R8hU
???
Survival instincts to stay in Officer? Because those are the only instincts he has shown recently
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 02, 2015 10:51 AM (R8hU
???
Survival instincts to stay in Officer? Because those are the only instincts he has shown recently
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (gf8BH)
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68 Damn Drew, you should read your own posts. I hate the GOP, you hate the GOP, we all hate the GOP. It's the same post every time.
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)
Oh, about as good as your comment right there.
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)
Oh, about as good as your comment right there.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (zt+N6)
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And people are shocked that conservatives say "what the Hell, give this Trump guy a chance!"
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal!
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Here's where I separate--two of the three people mentioned aren't running for President. I'm looking to cast my vote for the most conservative candidate on the ballot.
Who cares if he's a fucking liberal? Republicans are fucking liberals now. McConnel is a fucking liberal! Boner is a fucking liberal!
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Here's where I separate--two of the three people mentioned aren't running for President. I'm looking to cast my vote for the most conservative candidate on the ballot.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 02, 2015 10:53 AM (LUgeY)
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68 What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
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You actually need instructions?
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You actually need instructions?
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (SCcgT)
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2) Willful complicity and malice
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (/Ho8c)
#2
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:49 AM (/Ho8c)
#2
Posted by: Draki at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (sCOy8)
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Just a reminder here about where Mitch McCornhole's aversion to shutdowns comes from.
During the last shutdown showdown, Obama was horribly bungling the optics (entirely self-inflicted, not with any artful assist from the equally inept GOP). Remember WWII vets being kept off their own war memorial grounds by Obama's goons?
Then a grand total of one (1) poll from one of the alphabet networks came out which said that the public blamed the entire shutdown on those big meanie Republicans and thought they should all be terribly punished in the next election cycle.
The Beltway Republican establishment immediately pissed down their trouser legs in fear, and folded, and resumed Fedzilla ops, and gave Obama both a budget victory and a PR victory.
That one (1) alphabet network poll, if you looked at the actual internals, *ridiculously* oversampled Democrats. Of course it was going to be a "blame Republicans" poll. That's why the network ran with it. The establishment GOP panicked and fled over an inflatable cartoon monster.
And it has shaped their thinking and served as an excuse ever since.
Even though the allegedly outraged voting public who it was claimed were going to punish Republicans in the next election cycle over being Big Shutdown Meanies instead actually... voted for Republicans in that election. Underscoring the point that the one (1) poll which flipped out McCornhole and the Flaccid Boehner was BS from the get-go.
During the last shutdown showdown, Obama was horribly bungling the optics (entirely self-inflicted, not with any artful assist from the equally inept GOP). Remember WWII vets being kept off their own war memorial grounds by Obama's goons?
Then a grand total of one (1) poll from one of the alphabet networks came out which said that the public blamed the entire shutdown on those big meanie Republicans and thought they should all be terribly punished in the next election cycle.
The Beltway Republican establishment immediately pissed down their trouser legs in fear, and folded, and resumed Fedzilla ops, and gave Obama both a budget victory and a PR victory.
That one (1) alphabet network poll, if you looked at the actual internals, *ridiculously* oversampled Democrats. Of course it was going to be a "blame Republicans" poll. That's why the network ran with it. The establishment GOP panicked and fled over an inflatable cartoon monster.
And it has shaped their thinking and served as an excuse ever since.
Even though the allegedly outraged voting public who it was claimed were going to punish Republicans in the next election cycle over being Big Shutdown Meanies instead actually... voted for Republicans in that election. Underscoring the point that the one (1) poll which flipped out McCornhole and the Flaccid Boehner was BS from the get-go.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (noWW6)
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I hope I live long enough to see the Republican Party destroyed.
It's the only fitting outcome, given that they've destroyed my country.
It's the only fitting outcome, given that they've destroyed my country.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (u5gzz)
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The big money Chamber of Commerce donors who own most national-level Republican politicians don't want a nuclear Iran, do they?
There's money to be made there, friend.
There's money to be made there, friend.
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (W5DcG)
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I wish the Mongolians would attack Poland and then leave!
Posted by: a Pole making the first of three wishes at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (pgzyN)
Posted by: Iran at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (FwRqg)
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The big money Chamber of Commerce donors who own most national-level Republican politicians don't want a nuclear Iran, do they?
My guess is they think it'll work out somehow.
My guess is they think it'll work out somehow.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (OqR5R)
Posted by: Mitch Farragut McConnell at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (75uvI)
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PASS A FUCKING BUDGET YOU MOTHERFUCKING PIECES OF RATSHIT OMFG I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU ARRRRGGHHH
I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (mf5HN)
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They are pussies. It has already been pointed out the McD can go nuclear and stop this with a majority vote by declaring this a treaty.
PUSSIES.
PUSSIES.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (0FSuD)
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" Israel warming up the jets, or rather Netanyahu is ."
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ETxiG)
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28: "So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?"
2018. About the time Iran is able to manufacture functional warheads.
2018. About the time Iran is able to manufacture functional warheads.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (4nmNX)
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Even my popcorn has become stale.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (zllbf)
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Probably not even going to hold a vote to override the veto. Shit, they're probably not even going to make him veto it. Some shit head Republicans will just pass it. They don't want to force Obama to Veto anything else, why should they make him Veto this?
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (zt+N6)
NO. What will happen is with 34 votes the Dems can fillibuster the Bill and not allow it to come to a vote thus ....it will fade into history as another Republican failure. And a big shout out to the SOB Corker
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (zt+N6)
NO. What will happen is with 34 votes the Dems can fillibuster the Bill and not allow it to come to a vote thus ....it will fade into history as another Republican failure. And a big shout out to the SOB Corker
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (gf8BH)
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News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
If so, it's only because the intended pupils are unteachable. Either way I suspect our energy is better used elsewhere.
If so, it's only because the intended pupils are unteachable. Either way I suspect our energy is better used elsewhere.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (9krrF)
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93 PASS A FUCKING BUDGET YOU MOTHERFUCKING PIECES OF RATSHIT OMFG I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU ARRRRGGHHH
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Governor Rauner - is that you socking AtC?
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Governor Rauner - is that you socking AtC?
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (VndSC)
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So long as the Democrats are 100% committed to protecting Obama, no matter the cost to them individually, YES, nothing the Republican majority wants will happen. Period.
Saying that Sen. Reid didn't need 60 senators is intentional misdirection. He didn't need 60 senators because his party held the White House. He wasn't facing a Republican president. This is elementary understanding of the difference in the two situations.
There is only one way that anything conservatives want to happen policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January 2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it. Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
The modern Democrat party has shown that they will be ruthlessly united on objectives to the point of sacrificing their own elected officials to achieve those objectives. They are an unified team. Period. there is no such thing as a "principled Democrat." Making persuasive arguments is a waste of time. You need to accept this because it is reality.
If you want a given policy change in any area, the only task for the next 16 months is ensuring that a Republican, just about any of them, is elected president.
If you are doing anything other than that, you don't really want substantive policy changes. You want something else other than substantive policy changes and you are a counterproductive drag on the ultimate objective.
Barack Obama is the most successful progressive president since LBJ. He has got everything the Left wanted and could reasonably expect to get, even to the point of devastating his party nationally. We on the Right have to show a similar single-mindedness and ruthlessness to reverse his legacy.
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Saying that Sen. Reid didn't need 60 senators is intentional misdirection. He didn't need 60 senators because his party held the White House. He wasn't facing a Republican president. This is elementary understanding of the difference in the two situations.
There is only one way that anything conservatives want to happen policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January 2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it. Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
The modern Democrat party has shown that they will be ruthlessly united on objectives to the point of sacrificing their own elected officials to achieve those objectives. They are an unified team. Period. there is no such thing as a "principled Democrat." Making persuasive arguments is a waste of time. You need to accept this because it is reality.
If you want a given policy change in any area, the only task for the next 16 months is ensuring that a Republican, just about any of them, is elected president.
If you are doing anything other than that, you don't really want substantive policy changes. You want something else other than substantive policy changes and you are a counterproductive drag on the ultimate objective.
Barack Obama is the most successful progressive president since LBJ. He has got everything the Left wanted and could reasonably expect to get, even to the point of devastating his party nationally. We on the Right have to show a similar single-mindedness and ruthlessness to reverse his legacy.
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (DKt5R)
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The rank and file Republicans in Congress need to understand that Boehner and McConnell are fucking them.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (evdj2)
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Are Iranian Airbases close enough to Babylon to make the Kessel Run?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (i23N/)
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What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Vote Trump. In the ensuing chaos maybe the current batch will get thrown out. Maybe the parties will shatter.
Vote Trump. In the ensuing chaos maybe the current batch will get thrown out. Maybe the parties will shatter.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (OqR5R)
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" Israel warming up the jets, or rather Netanyahu is ."
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ETxiG)
A) Nobody is warming up any jets
B) Nobody is shooting anything down
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ETxiG)
A) Nobody is warming up any jets
B) Nobody is shooting anything down
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (gf8BH)
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What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)
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There is nothing that can be done about it. We are screwed. Thus Trump.
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)
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There is nothing that can be done about it. We are screwed. Thus Trump.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (LXJ1e)
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Johnny Horseface at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (W5DcG)
Now that I think on it...I wish Genghis Khan was our president now. Iran would be so screwed....
Now that I think on it...I wish Genghis Khan was our president now. Iran would be so screwed....
Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 10:56 AM (q52Ma)
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Tennessee should be ashamed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (evdj2)
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"68 Damn Drew, you should read your own posts. I hate the GOP, you hate the GOP, we all hate the GOP. It's the same post every time.
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)"
Fuck the GOP. Constructively.
What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob at September 02, 2015 10:52 AM (Z+7WE)"
Fuck the GOP. Constructively.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (u5gzz)
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DO give up the ship!
Posted by: john paul mcconnel at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (pgzyN)
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>>So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?
They better go soon. Russia has pledged to provide the S-300 defensive missiles to Iran by year end. They are also in negotiations to sell them fighter jets.
Apparently, Russia didn't care what the Senate did.
They better go soon. Russia has pledged to provide the S-300 defensive missiles to Iran by year end. They are also in negotiations to sell them fighter jets.
Apparently, Russia didn't care what the Senate did.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (OGm46)
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So clearly, the solution is to give the Democrats that made the Iran deal, more power?
We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal.
Obama really gets his cake and eat it too. He fucks everything up, and then conservatives blame the GOP because Obama fucks everything up, with conservatives telling each other we should hand Democrats more power to tech Republicans a lesson.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Please set out for me, exactly and precisely, what accomplishments have been achieved by the GOP on the Federal level since 2010.
As always, that is a serious question.
We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal.
Obama really gets his cake and eat it too. He fucks everything up, and then conservatives blame the GOP because Obama fucks everything up, with conservatives telling each other we should hand Democrats more power to tech Republicans a lesson.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Please set out for me, exactly and precisely, what accomplishments have been achieved by the GOP on the Federal level since 2010.
As always, that is a serious question.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (mf5HN)
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The Iran deal was lost long ago when the Senate allowed ANY president to make "deals" with foreign governments as an"executive agreement" instead of a a treaty which is is.
And also when they threw the power of impeachment and defunding into a a puddle of vomit on the WH floor.
And also when they threw the power of impeachment and defunding into a a puddle of vomit on the WH floor.
Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (t2KH5)
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I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
Posted by: alexthechick
So, PAFBYMFPORSOIHYIHYIHYIHYIHYIHYA is similar to RTMFBYMFMF?
Posted by: alexthechick
So, PAFBYMFPORSOIHYIHYIHYIHYIHYIHYA is similar to RTMFBYMFMF?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (/Ho8c)
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I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (mf5HN)
*wipes errant spittle off The Rack*
Lovely rant. Timbit?
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 10:54 AM (mf5HN)
*wipes errant spittle off The Rack*
Lovely rant. Timbit?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (JtwS4)
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Now that I think on it...I wish Genghis Khan was our president now. Iran would be so screwed....
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They would be just another state in the union
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They would be just another state in the union
Posted by: Roy at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (VndSC)
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With a base like this, Republicans don't need enemies.
Posted by: Squad Circular Firing Squad Circular Firing
Your Concern Has Been:
[X] Noted
[ ] Other Than Noted
With a base like this, Republicans don't need enemies.
Posted by: Squad Circular Firing Squad Circular Firing
Your Concern Has Been:
[X] Noted
[ ] Other Than Noted
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (kdS6q)
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Damn, didn't get in before our current GOPologist waded in as the self-demonstrating article.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (Wckf4)
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Mitch McConnell and John Boehner had no trouble going to the wall to help Megabanks gamble on derivatives with taxpayer money; and they really turned the screws to get Obamatrade passed.
But on issues that conservatives want them to fight for, they fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
But on issues that conservatives want them to fight for, they fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (O7MnT)
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Mitch the Gimp.
Posted by: dc at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (oY/R7)
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Obama isn't a lame duck. The GOP is.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (OqR5R)
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The single most pressing issue facing America today is the Ex-Im Bank renewal and we absolutely must find a way forward!
Posted by: Senator Mitch McConell at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (LISuA)
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Iran will get the bomb. Next Question
What will they do?
A. Use it as a threat or deterrent
B. Use it against the little Satan, Israel
C. Use it against the little Satan, Israel and the Great Satan, America
D. Use it to summon the 12th Imam
E. Use it to destroy the infidel Sunnis that killed the prophet's lineage 1400 years ago.
F. A through E, but mostly USE IT!
What will they do?
A. Use it as a threat or deterrent
B. Use it against the little Satan, Israel
C. Use it against the little Satan, Israel and the Great Satan, America
D. Use it to summon the 12th Imam
E. Use it to destroy the infidel Sunnis that killed the prophet's lineage 1400 years ago.
F. A through E, but mostly USE IT!
Posted by: rd at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (qidv2)
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48: "Iran knows they will get nukes back if they attack Israel.'
Isn't this what the Iranians want? Force armageddon so they can usher in the 12th (or is it 13th) imam and their version of paradise.
Isn't this what the Iranians want? Force armageddon so they can usher in the 12th (or is it 13th) imam and their version of paradise.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (4nmNX)
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If it were up to me, I'd be giving free rides in Brazen Bulls to Mitch and the rest of the Vichy GOP. Nice long, slow rides ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (zc3Db)
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If the Federal Government shuts down then the states can take over. But we can't have that, can we?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid article IV or bust at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (q9xEd)
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Big Pharma has all of these septuagenarian pill poppers by the short, grey hairs.
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (3tjn4)
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109
Tennessee should be ashamed.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
You don't have to remind me. I've been ashamed of Corker for some time, and am appalled at his treasonous treachery. Dark days for the Volunteer State, indeed.
Tennessee should be ashamed.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
You don't have to remind me. I've been ashamed of Corker for some time, and am appalled at his treasonous treachery. Dark days for the Volunteer State, indeed.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (/Ho8c)
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We shall surrender on the beaches, we shall capitulate on the landing grounds, we shall back down in the fields and in the streets, we shall run away in the hills; men, we just don't have a chance.
Posted by: Mitch Churchill McConnell at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (75uvI)
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They better go soon. Russia has pledged to provide the S-300 defensive missiles to Iran by year end. They are also in negotiations to sell them fighter jets.
Apparently, Russia didn't care what the Senate did.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (OGm46)
A) the S-300 are an older model and I doubt either the Israelis or the US would have much trouble with it. In the past all Russian missile systems seem to go dark anytime Israel wants to strike at an Arab Country. Must be that old black magic?
B) Ditto older model Ruskie Fighter Jets.
Apparently, Russia didn't care what the Senate did.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 10:57 AM (OGm46)
A) the S-300 are an older model and I doubt either the Israelis or the US would have much trouble with it. In the past all Russian missile systems seem to go dark anytime Israel wants to strike at an Arab Country. Must be that old black magic?
B) Ditto older model Ruskie Fighter Jets.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (gf8BH)
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I hear all the time from the anti-Trump people that he is in no way qualified to be president because he has no "experience".
Who has experience? Mitch McConnell, John Boner, Juan McCain...they all have decades of experience. How's that working out for everyone?
Who has experience? Mitch McConnell, John Boner, Juan McCain...they all have decades of experience. How's that working out for everyone?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:00 AM (0LHZx)
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Saying that Sen. Reid didn't need 60 senators is intentional misdirection. He didn't need 60 senators because his party held the White House. He wasn't facing a Republican president. This is elementary understanding of the difference in the two situations.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:00 AM (LXJ1e)
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So, what's a good, catchy write in name we can use in the next election? If enough conservatives use it in the next election, and Republicans lose some seats, it may force the establishment to at least pass SOME of our legislation.
Something like:
Fuck the GOPe
True conservative
No Boehner/McConnel
It's important for conservatives to vote to show they are a powerful faction to cater to, as that's all the establishment seems to care about. Voting Dem just signals the GOPe to move left, as does sitting out. Even though I have a fairly conservative Senator and Rep, I plan to vote some sort of write-in to show my disgust...just need to ideal, catchy, pithy phrase
Something like:
Fuck the GOPe
True conservative
No Boehner/McConnel
It's important for conservatives to vote to show they are a powerful faction to cater to, as that's all the establishment seems to care about. Voting Dem just signals the GOPe to move left, as does sitting out. Even though I have a fairly conservative Senator and Rep, I plan to vote some sort of write-in to show my disgust...just need to ideal, catchy, pithy phrase
Posted by: Grimaldi at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (UpUFT)
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What you may see is things going boom in the night in Iran or Iranian Scientists suddenly keeling over?
???????
Who? Not me? Did you do it?
???????
Who? Not me? Did you do it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (gf8BH)
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hey fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (O7MnT)
_________
Ha. I've never heard that expression before. Good one.
Posted by: V the K at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (O7MnT)
_________
Ha. I've never heard that expression before. Good one.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (0LHZx)
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He wasn't facing a Republican president.
Huh?
Huh?
Posted by: 2006-2008 at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (pgzyN)
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***"Please set out for me, exactly and precisely, what accomplishments have been achieved by the GOP on the Federal level since 2010.
As always, that is a serious question."***
But the answer is always the same - the Republicans are hamstrung until they hold every Federal, State, and local office all the way down to dogcatcher.
And even then it's a crapshoot. Now stop your whining and open your checkbook.
As always, that is a serious question."***
But the answer is always the same - the Republicans are hamstrung until they hold every Federal, State, and local office all the way down to dogcatcher.
And even then it's a crapshoot. Now stop your whining and open your checkbook.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (Wckf4)
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Time to be officially banned: You fucking cocksucker drew, I'm a "crazy" pro lifer and you just insulted me you piece of shit!
Posted by: doug at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (Y7fRE)
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Is it possible that the Israelis might just know something that they haven't shared with team barkus dorkus? Bibi is making noise like he is worried but he is not acting worried.
Why?
Why?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (6yehy)
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (E6RIJ)
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The Republican Party was on life support. This Iran deal and funding Planned Parenthood will pull the plug. We are now in "let it burn" territory.
Immigration is not the "The big issue"... it's the elites not listening to those working everyday to try and build a better life for children. Immigration is just the water boiling over. The heat is in not listening and the working men and women have had enough of it.
Every conservative I know is becoming more libertarian everyday. (Including myself.) Even my liberal friends will not defend the Iran Deal. I think secretly they wanted the GOP to kill it.
If my choices are to go off the cliff quickly or a little bit slower why should I be arguing on how the driver should be? I need to just find a way out of the car.
I'm tired of voting against someone, biting my lip and voting for the lesser of two evils.
Let it burn... we got shovels.
Immigration is not the "The big issue"... it's the elites not listening to those working everyday to try and build a better life for children. Immigration is just the water boiling over. The heat is in not listening and the working men and women have had enough of it.
Every conservative I know is becoming more libertarian everyday. (Including myself.) Even my liberal friends will not defend the Iran Deal. I think secretly they wanted the GOP to kill it.
If my choices are to go off the cliff quickly or a little bit slower why should I be arguing on how the driver should be? I need to just find a way out of the car.
I'm tired of voting against someone, biting my lip and voting for the lesser of two evils.
Let it burn... we got shovels.
Posted by: Creeky at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (XemiY)
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Force them to actually filibuster the bill. I would love to hear what they have to say about the merits of it.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (kZVsz)
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The Republican Party must die so a real opposition party can arise. Thems the facts. Sure, that probably gives the federal governance over to the Democrats for a while, but I don't see where they aren't running the Congress now.
My prediction? Pain.
My prediction? Pain.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (evdj2)
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Posted by: Grimaldi at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (UpUFT)
Write, "Trump."
It's what they fear the most.
Write, "Trump."
It's what they fear the most.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (OqR5R)
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? Bibi is making noise like he is worried but he is not acting worried.
Why?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (6yehy)
???
What do you want him to do? Pee in his pants on national TV?
Why?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 02, 2015 11:02 AM (6yehy)
???
What do you want him to do? Pee in his pants on national TV?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (gf8BH)
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Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:00 AM (LXJ1e)
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Yup. And also with a full sweep by the GOP in 2004, we couldn't cut a cent in spending. Hell we couldn't cut even a cent of PBS funding. Forget defunding PBS altogether, we couldn't even slow down the rate of funding increase.
But yeah, if you don't vote "R" every election, you know, liberal policies will be enacted and stuff.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:00 AM (LXJ1e)
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Yup. And also with a full sweep by the GOP in 2004, we couldn't cut a cent in spending. Hell we couldn't cut even a cent of PBS funding. Forget defunding PBS altogether, we couldn't even slow down the rate of funding increase.
But yeah, if you don't vote "R" every election, you know, liberal policies will be enacted and stuff.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (0LHZx)
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"If you want a given policy change in any area, the only task for the
next 16 months is ensuring that a Republican, just about any of them, is
elected president."
What more than 25 years of prior experience indicates is that the only "policy change" which will result from electing a Republican president is when that president cynically reneges on what had been promised as policy back when they were merely a Republican candidate.
"Read my lips, no new taxes!" ... ... Raised taxes.
"No more nation-building nonsense!" ... ... A DOUBLE dose of the stuff.
next 16 months is ensuring that a Republican, just about any of them, is
elected president."
What more than 25 years of prior experience indicates is that the only "policy change" which will result from electing a Republican president is when that president cynically reneges on what had been promised as policy back when they were merely a Republican candidate.
"Read my lips, no new taxes!" ... ... Raised taxes.
"No more nation-building nonsense!" ... ... A DOUBLE dose of the stuff.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (noWW6)
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Time to be officially banned: You fucking cocksucker drew, I'm a "crazy" pro lifer and you just insulted me you piece of shit!
Posted by: doug at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (Y7fRE)
Hmmmm.
Posted by: doug at September 02, 2015 11:01 AM (Y7fRE)
Hmmmm.
Posted by: Reading Comprehension Issues? at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (JtwS4)
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Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:59 AM (gf8BH)
You're missing the point. While most of the US has been focused on what the Senate will or won't do, Russia, China every country in the EU and beyond has been making deals with Iran ever since the vote at the UN SC. They are already getting everything they need to proceed because every other country who was helping enforce the sanctions folded months ago.
Yes, it would have been good to have the Senate go against Obama and vote this deal down but it would have only affected the US and the rest of the world would have filled any void we left. They already are.
In reality, this deal was made as soon as Kerry and the P5+1 folded to Iran.
You're missing the point. While most of the US has been focused on what the Senate will or won't do, Russia, China every country in the EU and beyond has been making deals with Iran ever since the vote at the UN SC. They are already getting everything they need to proceed because every other country who was helping enforce the sanctions folded months ago.
Yes, it would have been good to have the Senate go against Obama and vote this deal down but it would have only affected the US and the rest of the world would have filled any void we left. They already are.
In reality, this deal was made as soon as Kerry and the P5+1 folded to Iran.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (OGm46)
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You can trust us this time when we control both Houses and the White House! Honest Liz Injun!
Posted by: 2000-2006 at September 02, 2015 11:04 AM (pgzyN)
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I'm just mystified as to why a candidate like Donald Trump would have such popularity!
Posted by: George Will at September 02, 2015 11:04 AM (LISuA)
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News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Unfortunetaly I agree with you. Pass the Bottle of Bourbon please
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (gf8BH)
And how has that been working out so far?
Go ahead and pull the lever for TeamRed, vote for the lessor of two evils. Maybe they'll even get a majority in both houses, they that GOP will put a stop to......never mind.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Unfortunetaly I agree with you. Pass the Bottle of Bourbon please
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (gf8BH)
And how has that been working out so far?
Go ahead and pull the lever for TeamRed, vote for the lessor of two evils. Maybe they'll even get a majority in both houses, they that GOP will put a stop to......never mind.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 02, 2015 11:04 AM (kKHcp)
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" Israel warming up the jets, or rather Netanyahu is ."
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ETxiG)
Don't like saying it, but at this point I'd love to see the Israelis take out a whole shitload of US fighter jets.
This American citizen would be cheering for Israel.
If they do, we are obliged to shoot them down, according to this deal.
Posted by: navybrat at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ETxiG)
Don't like saying it, but at this point I'd love to see the Israelis take out a whole shitload of US fighter jets.
This American citizen would be cheering for Israel.
Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (w1ewr)
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I'm sure we all can agree this country is boned. The $6 million question is how fast.
Should we all vote for the far left Dems/Socialists and hurry this process along? Along the lines of just ripping a band-aid off, the quicker it is over, the faster we can rebuild.
Should we all vote for the far left Dems/Socialists and hurry this process along? Along the lines of just ripping a band-aid off, the quicker it is over, the faster we can rebuild.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (DlmoZ)
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We on the Right have to show a similar single-mindedness and ruthlessness to reverse his legacy.
The point is that the very Republican "leadership" you continually laud, support and celebrate has shown zero willingness to do this. But you insist, against all evidence, that that will suddenly change in 2016.
The point is that the very Republican "leadership" you continually laud, support and celebrate has shown zero willingness to do this. But you insist, against all evidence, that that will suddenly change in 2016.
Posted by: you have no credibility at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (ZtFr+)
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Democrats got a minimum wage increase and banned light bulbs in 2007 when Bush (last time I checked a Republican) was in office.
And in 2007 Democrats controlled the Senate by 51-49.
And somehow, they managed to get their agenda through.
Yet today the GOP holds 54 senate seats and can't do fuck all.
And in 2007 Democrats controlled the Senate by 51-49.
And somehow, they managed to get their agenda through.
Yet today the GOP holds 54 senate seats and can't do fuck all.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (0LHZx)
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Trump is not qualified to be president because he has no experience being president?
Well, the answer then is obvious. We can only elect people who have been president before and have the necessary experience being president.
Yes, I can see that running a business is not the right kind of experience because running a business where you pay people wages to do what you want done is different than organizing a bunch of unpaid volunteers who you can not fire for failure to do what you want done.
Business, government, completely different skill sets.
On the other hand, as President you can put people in jail who don't do what you want, and business people can't do that. So there's that.
Well, the answer then is obvious. We can only elect people who have been president before and have the necessary experience being president.
Yes, I can see that running a business is not the right kind of experience because running a business where you pay people wages to do what you want done is different than organizing a bunch of unpaid volunteers who you can not fire for failure to do what you want done.
Business, government, completely different skill sets.
On the other hand, as President you can put people in jail who don't do what you want, and business people can't do that. So there's that.
Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (DKt5R)
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28: " So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?"
I'll take 6 October 2015 in the pool. What's the prize for whoever is closest?
I'll take 6 October 2015 in the pool. What's the prize for whoever is closest?
Posted by: Pastafarian at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (LqrRo)
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Roy at September 02, 2015 10:58 AM (VndSC)
But President Khan would simply move all the illegals to our newly won Iranian territory...in order to repopulate it.
Two problems solved in one blow...that is why he was a military genius.
But President Khan would simply move all the illegals to our newly won Iranian territory...in order to repopulate it.
Two problems solved in one blow...that is why he was a military genius.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (q52Ma)
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Thank you, Bander. *rests head on shoulder whilst nomming Timbit*
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
If you give us the House, we will work day and night to repeal Obamacare.
Oh. You gave us the House. Well, that doesn't mean anything because we don't have the Senate. One half of one third and all of that.
If you give us the House and Senate, we will do everything we can to bring this Administration to account.
Oh. You gave us a super huge majority in the House and you gave us the Senate. Well, see we still can't do anything because we don't have the Presidency.
But this time, this time, we totes pinky swearsies omg we mean it promise promise promise things will be different. All we need is this Presidency and this Senate and this House.
What's that? You're mumbling something about President Bush and having the House and Senate and something about what happened then?
Oh. Well that's soooooo different because it is.
I'm sorry. I'm not entirely certain what part of the GOP has squandered every single solitary bit of good will, faith and trust that it could ever have is unclear to you.
I voted McCain. I voted Romney. I volunteered. I did what I could to help in 2014.
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
If you give us the House, we will work day and night to repeal Obamacare.
Oh. You gave us the House. Well, that doesn't mean anything because we don't have the Senate. One half of one third and all of that.
If you give us the House and Senate, we will do everything we can to bring this Administration to account.
Oh. You gave us a super huge majority in the House and you gave us the Senate. Well, see we still can't do anything because we don't have the Presidency.
But this time, this time, we totes pinky swearsies omg we mean it promise promise promise things will be different. All we need is this Presidency and this Senate and this House.
What's that? You're mumbling something about President Bush and having the House and Senate and something about what happened then?
Oh. Well that's soooooo different because it is.
I'm sorry. I'm not entirely certain what part of the GOP has squandered every single solitary bit of good will, faith and trust that it could ever have is unclear to you.
I voted McCain. I voted Romney. I volunteered. I did what I could to help in 2014.
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN)
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That latter part of the post is definitely the real deal, Reid could get things thru when "he didn't have the votes" yet McConnell can't.
The GOPe moves leftward with Dems. They are on the same team. Of course, back when the Dems controlled Congress for 50 years, people believed there was an opposition party, they didn't have to do this theater. I don't think there ever was an opposition party.
We're all a bunch of patsies.
That latter part of the post is definitely the real deal, Reid could get things thru when "he didn't have the votes" yet McConnell can't.
The GOPe moves leftward with Dems. They are on the same team. Of course, back when the Dems controlled Congress for 50 years, people believed there was an opposition party, they didn't have to do this theater. I don't think there ever was an opposition party.
We're all a bunch of patsies.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ODxAs)
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"Force them to actually filibuster the bill. I would love to hear what they have to say about the merits of it."
Why? They objectively don't care about the merits. They only care that their guy's deal gets done. Period. It will get done. They will make sure of it.
Do you think the vast American people care? No, they don't. There isn't going to be a great uprising by the people.
The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't. Period. And I mean total power over the entire government, not just one branch of it.
They can't be persuaded or changed. They must be defeated.
Why? They objectively don't care about the merits. They only care that their guy's deal gets done. Period. It will get done. They will make sure of it.
Do you think the vast American people care? No, they don't. There isn't going to be a great uprising by the people.
The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't. Period. And I mean total power over the entire government, not just one branch of it.
They can't be persuaded or changed. They must be defeated.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ljZD2)
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Drew has it wrong in part. With 34 Dem Senator votes in hand, the Iran deal is assured to survive now, true. But there could still be a vote, meaningless as it is now thanks to the fuckless GOP, if another 7 D/R Senators don't come out for it. They only need 41 votes to filibuster, which would mean NO vote at all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (gyKtp)
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The Corker bill that set up this debacle passed 98 - 1, didn't it ?
So they were for it before they were against it ?
*facepalm*
So they were for it before they were against it ?
*facepalm*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (go6ud)
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alexthechick is right - I didn't notice this before for some reason - but as drew states they're going to just use the CR...so again even the promise to return to normal order and creating an actual budget is one they won't even keep.
It's probably because McConnell is doing 3D chess and a moron wouldn't understand his genius.
It's probably because McConnell is doing 3D chess and a moron wouldn't understand his genius.
Posted by: gwelf at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (nyxv/)
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Bill Clinton signed welfare reform rather than risk the loss of political capital he would have suffered from vetoing it.
That fucking bill did not need 60 Republicans in the Senate.
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF PASSING THESE BILLS!!!!!
MAKE THAT FUCKING FUCK OF A FUCK VETO THEM AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!!!
Let him burn his political capital vetoing a bill to defund PP, you no good, motherfucking, piece of shit, scumbag, McConnall.
What the fuck would that fucking no-good cum-sucker do differently if he was a Democrat?
That fucking bill did not need 60 Republicans in the Senate.
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF PASSING THESE BILLS!!!!!
MAKE THAT FUCKING FUCK OF A FUCK VETO THEM AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!!!
Let him burn his political capital vetoing a bill to defund PP, you no good, motherfucking, piece of shit, scumbag, McConnall.
What the fuck would that fucking no-good cum-sucker do differently if he was a Democrat?
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: Shpeaker Boehner at September 02, 2015 11:07 AM (bynk/)
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I voted McCain. I voted Romney. I volunteered. I did what I could to help in 2014.
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
*golf clap*
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
*golf clap*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:07 AM (75uvI)
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The Corker bill that set up this debacle passed 98 - 1, didn't it ?
The Corker bill granted this thing life. That's the vote that counts. Save for Cotton and Cruz (through inaction), they're all guilty of approving it.
The Corker bill granted this thing life. That's the vote that counts. Save for Cotton and Cruz (through inaction), they're all guilty of approving it.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:08 AM (hsCpX)
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The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't. Period. And I mean total power over the entire government, not just one branch of it.
Hmm. So where do I send my check?
Hmm. So where do I send my check?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:08 AM (75uvI)
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I normally don't use the fuck word being too much of a Lady, but fuck McConnell to hell and Fuck the rest of the stupid Republicans...
Posted by: donna at September 02, 2015 11:08 AM (hUdMz)
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The Republican Establishment is Lucy, you are Charlie Brown. You keep running up to kick the football. At the last second she moves it and you end up flat on your back.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:08 AM (i23N/)
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News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Not looking to teach a lesson to anybody. The GOPe has abandoned it's base. It has become spineless. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Guess what - I'm done voting for them. They have not delivered on ANYTHING they said they would during the 2014 elections. Oh sure, we got some "test" votes on issues we wanted fixed - call them nonbinding resolutions or whatever. In the end, the only ones taking it in the "end" are us voters. F*ck them. Time for all of them to go.
News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Not looking to teach a lesson to anybody. The GOPe has abandoned it's base. It has become spineless. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Guess what - I'm done voting for them. They have not delivered on ANYTHING they said they would during the 2014 elections. Oh sure, we got some "test" votes on issues we wanted fixed - call them nonbinding resolutions or whatever. In the end, the only ones taking it in the "end" are us voters. F*ck them. Time for all of them to go.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 02, 2015 11:08 AM (DlmoZ)
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" So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?"
I'll take 6 October 2015 in the pool. What's the prize for whoever is closest?
Posted by: Pastafarian at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (LqrRo)
1 Get Out Of The Barrel Free Card
A bargain at twice the price.
" So any bets when Israel will nuke Iran?"
I'll take 6 October 2015 in the pool. What's the prize for whoever is closest?
Posted by: Pastafarian at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (LqrRo)
1 Get Out Of The Barrel Free Card
A bargain at twice the price.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (1QsMy)
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Don't like saying it, but at this point I'd love to see the Israelis take out a whole shitload of US fighter jets.
This American citizen would be cheering for Israel.
I'd prefer to hear a whole bunch of American pilots, when scrambled to defend Iran, go, "What, say again? We seem to be having difficulties with our radios all of a sudden. Did you say bomb Tehran? That's exactly what it sounded like you said."
This American citizen would be cheering for Israel.
I'd prefer to hear a whole bunch of American pilots, when scrambled to defend Iran, go, "What, say again? We seem to be having difficulties with our radios all of a sudden. Did you say bomb Tehran? That's exactly what it sounded like you said."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (LUgeY)
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The Corker bill that set up this debacle passed 98 - 1, didn't it ?
So they were for it before they were against it ?
*facepalm*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Traitors. All but one.
So they were for it before they were against it ?
*facepalm*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Traitors. All but one.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (/Ho8c)
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What the fuck would that fucking no-good cum-sucker do differently if he was a Democrat?
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)
Well Democrats seem to fight for their constituents on occasion.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)
Well Democrats seem to fight for their constituents on occasion.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (OqR5R)
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"Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion."
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I can't tell you how excited I am at the thought of voting for another establishment Republican. I can't tell you that because I'm not excited in the least bit.
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I can't tell you how excited I am at the thought of voting for another establishment Republican. I can't tell you that because I'm not excited in the least bit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (noWW6)
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Gwelf Johnson is right.
Posted by: Olson Johnson at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (75uvI)
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Trumpiedaddy has to be a moby. Nobody's that dumb.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (u5gzz)
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With opposition to the agreement failing to take hold on the Democratic side, supporters may even be able to muster the 41 votes needed to block the disapproval resolution from passing in the first place, sparing Obama from having to use his veto pen. That would require seven of the 10 remaining undeclared senators to decide in favor of the deal.
Perfect. Uh -- I mean --- boo! Boooooo!
Posted by: All the Republican Senators That Voted for this in the First Place
With opposition to the agreement failing to take hold on the Democratic side, supporters may even be able to muster the 41 votes needed to block the disapproval resolution from passing in the first place, sparing Obama from having to use his veto pen. That would require seven of the 10 remaining undeclared senators to decide in favor of the deal.
Perfect. Uh -- I mean --- boo! Boooooo!
Posted by: All the Republican Senators That Voted for this in the First Place
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (kdS6q)
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Barack Obama is a SCOAMT
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f)
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If you want a given policy change in any area, the only task for the next 16 months is ensuring that a Republican, just about any of them, is elected president.
If you are doing anything other than that, you don't really want substantive policy changes. You want something else other than substantive policy changes and you are a counterproductive drag on the ultimate objective.
Barack Obama is the most successful progressive president since LBJ. He has got everything the Left wanted and could reasonably expect to get, even to the point of devastating his party nationally. We on the Right have to show a similar single-mindedness and ruthlessness to reverse his legacy.
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Ha Ha Ha Ha. There is no ruthless Republican. The Republican party is pretty much LBJ Democrats (at least the ones in power) regards to policy and lap dog puppies regards to spine.
You are saying we should not try to achieve our goals now, but just you wait and see! Ha Ha Ha Ha.
So what, exactly should Republicans run on? Defunding PP? Nope. Reversing gay marriage? Nope. Cutting spending? Nope. Reducing regulation? Nope. Stopping illegal aliens? Nope.
If the Repubs have to hold back because these positions are not popular enough now to force the issue with Obama, then they will certainly not be popular enough in the future, especially when Republicans run from them in shame.
If you are doing anything other than that, you don't really want substantive policy changes. You want something else other than substantive policy changes and you are a counterproductive drag on the ultimate objective.
Barack Obama is the most successful progressive president since LBJ. He has got everything the Left wanted and could reasonably expect to get, even to the point of devastating his party nationally. We on the Right have to show a similar single-mindedness and ruthlessness to reverse his legacy.
Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Ha Ha Ha Ha. There is no ruthless Republican. The Republican party is pretty much LBJ Democrats (at least the ones in power) regards to policy and lap dog puppies regards to spine.
You are saying we should not try to achieve our goals now, but just you wait and see! Ha Ha Ha Ha.
So what, exactly should Republicans run on? Defunding PP? Nope. Reversing gay marriage? Nope. Cutting spending? Nope. Reducing regulation? Nope. Stopping illegal aliens? Nope.
If the Repubs have to hold back because these positions are not popular enough now to force the issue with Obama, then they will certainly not be popular enough in the future, especially when Republicans run from them in shame.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (LXJ1e)
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What good is any of this without some constructive ideas on what we can do about it?
Posted by: Old Hob
*whistles as he walks by*
Posted by: Old Hob
*whistles as he walks by*
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (VAsIq)
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We're here because of Obama, not the GOP. McConnell sucks, but he didn't strike up the Iran deal.
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Bull-fucking-shit.
We are here because that fucking spineless bitch gave him the green-light; handed this to him on a silver platter: "make your deal, we've rigged the game so it can't be stopped."
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Bull-fucking-shit.
We are here because that fucking spineless bitch gave him the green-light; handed this to him on a silver platter: "make your deal, we've rigged the game so it can't be stopped."
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (ZvKdv)
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The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't.
And let's face it....not even then.
And let's face it....not even then.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (hsCpX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f)
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O/T but I just saw over on Twitchy that a uniformed police officer in Florida was refused service at an Arby's because she was a police officer.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (vg8iE)
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Trumpiedaddy has to be a moby. Nobody's that dumb.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (u5gzz)
Yep. Trumpetdaddy is Nobody.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (u5gzz)
Yep. Trumpetdaddy is Nobody.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (zc3Db)
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"Like picking out imagined faces in a billowing cloud."
That's not only true, but poetic.
Win / win !
That's not only true, but poetic.
Win / win !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (go6ud)
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Welcome to all the newcomers to Club Burnination. Hope someone brought some extra booze, I'm running low...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, lettin' it burn since '12 at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (9krrF)
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It is Iran who will nuke the racist apartheid state of New Babylon.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:11 AM (i23N/)
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has to be a moby. Nobody's that dumb.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud
Elevated radon levels in over-insulated homes.
It happens.
has to be a moby. Nobody's that dumb.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud
Elevated radon levels in over-insulated homes.
It happens.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 11:11 AM (kdS6q)
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The 41st vote would ensure that Obama wouldn't have to veto anything. The 34th vote guarantees that Obama's veto cannot be overridden.
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at September 02, 2015 11:11 AM (lU0bX)
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Hell Repubs ran on abolishing the Department of Education for years. As soon as they had the power to do it. Boom! No Child Left Behind and an EXPANSION of the Department of Education.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (LXJ1e)
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Oh and yes, I won't support Ted Cruz for voting for this abomination.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (OqR5R)
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Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM <<<<
Nah, it was over the minute obama signaled his willingness to negotiate and all the other countries dropped their sanctions. The meetings, negotiations, agreement, deal, congress votes etc. mean nothing.
Except ME war. That is assured.
Nah, it was over the minute obama signaled his willingness to negotiate and all the other countries dropped their sanctions. The meetings, negotiations, agreement, deal, congress votes etc. mean nothing.
Except ME war. That is assured.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (ODxAs)
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Hillary: Vote for me and I will give you 100 things.
Jeb: Vote for me and I will give you 99 of those things. Oh and PS, I'm totes conservative and stuff.
Jeb: Vote for me and I will give you 99 of those things. Oh and PS, I'm totes conservative and stuff.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:06 AM (ZvKdv)
No no no, you see all of this stuff was just going to happen anyway so this idea of political capital and representation and such is just pointless.
Just look at the swill at 150.
No no no, you see all of this stuff was just going to happen anyway so this idea of political capital and representation and such is just pointless.
Just look at the swill at 150.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (Wckf4)
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>>The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't.
This is not getting reversed short of war. The entire international community folded on this and they aren't going to get back together before it's too late.
This is not getting reversed short of war. The entire international community folded on this and they aren't going to get back together before it's too late.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:13 AM (OGm46)
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>>>I normally don't use the fuck word being too much of a Lady, but fuck
McConnell to hell and Fuck the rest of the stupid Republicans...<<<
Well done. Your Gold Membership is in the mail.
McConnell to hell and Fuck the rest of the stupid Republicans...<<<
Well done. Your Gold Membership is in the mail.
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 11:13 AM (3tjn4)
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The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't. Period. And I mean total power over the entire government, not just one branch of it.
They can't be persuaded or changed. They must be defeated.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Bullshit.
The dems in the minority will filibuster. Mtich the bitch will still refuse to remove it, and you'll STILL move the goal posts.
The only way any of this stuff gets reversed is if our side has the power and their side doesn't. Period. And I mean total power over the entire government, not just one branch of it.
They can't be persuaded or changed. They must be defeated.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Bullshit.
The dems in the minority will filibuster. Mtich the bitch will still refuse to remove it, and you'll STILL move the goal posts.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 11:13 AM (Spluw)
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Let libs talk with no interruption for long enough and they'll give away the game. That's why I want to force them to blather if they want a filibuster.
I figure you let one talk for an hour, you're gonna eventually get a good dose of Jew-hate to soundbite.
I figure you let one talk for an hour, you're gonna eventually get a good dose of Jew-hate to soundbite.
Posted by: Chupacabras at September 02, 2015 11:13 AM (kZVsz)
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Comparisons to Bill Clinton or to twenty years ago are completely irrelevant. Bill Clinton wasn't an ideologue. Bill Clinton passionately cared about being popular.
Barack Obama is a straight-out ideologue and doesn't give a shit what you think of him.
"Forcing him to give up political capital?" Seriously? He gutted his party at the national level to achieve the things he wanted. Do you think he cares about "political capital?"
Jesus, the naivete on display.
McConnell and the other leadership understand what so many apparently don't. It doesn't matter what they do until Obama is out. Period. Anything that inhibits the ability to replace him with a Republican president will be undermined and avoided at all costs. Accept this. It is reality. They understand who they are dealing with and what the stakes are.
They need to survive the next 16 months and win the election in 2016. That's the only priority. We are in a different time with a radically different Democrat party. They are down to the rump element of fanatical true believers. We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
And anybody who impedes that objective might as well be a Democrat openly.
Barack Obama is a straight-out ideologue and doesn't give a shit what you think of him.
"Forcing him to give up political capital?" Seriously? He gutted his party at the national level to achieve the things he wanted. Do you think he cares about "political capital?"
Jesus, the naivete on display.
McConnell and the other leadership understand what so many apparently don't. It doesn't matter what they do until Obama is out. Period. Anything that inhibits the ability to replace him with a Republican president will be undermined and avoided at all costs. Accept this. It is reality. They understand who they are dealing with and what the stakes are.
They need to survive the next 16 months and win the election in 2016. That's the only priority. We are in a different time with a radically different Democrat party. They are down to the rump element of fanatical true believers. We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
And anybody who impedes that objective might as well be a Democrat openly.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
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I blame the deep throated people of Kentucky.
Posted by: deepred at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (xv5cf)
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Piss off, Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (evdj2)
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The only reason to send a GOPe candidate to the White House is so that select cronies can get the extra 30% Gold Premium Graft.
Otherwise, no change.
It's not a conservative party.
Otherwise, no change.
It's not a conservative party.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (hsCpX)
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Confirmation of the death cult in America.
Selling of chopped up baby parts - check
Allowing the biggest sponsor of terror to acquire and hone their nuclear arms as they vow to wipe Little Satan off of the map, kill Americans and vow death to America - check
Kill the economy further and grow a bloated government even further - check
Kill law enforcement officers under the guise of blacklivesmatter - check
Kill any form of religious expression in our country unless it is Islam - check
Sorry Mr. Franklin, we blew it.
Selling of chopped up baby parts - check
Allowing the biggest sponsor of terror to acquire and hone their nuclear arms as they vow to wipe Little Satan off of the map, kill Americans and vow death to America - check
Kill the economy further and grow a bloated government even further - check
Kill law enforcement officers under the guise of blacklivesmatter - check
Kill any form of religious expression in our country unless it is Islam - check
Sorry Mr. Franklin, we blew it.
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (oiNtH)
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I'm not becoming more Libertarian; I'm just not going to vote for a Republican for a President (unless it's a non RINO) and based on the Republicans I probably won't be voting for them for Congress either. I am not comfortable with much liaissez faire of Libertarians either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 11:15 AM (OSs/l)
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Well the good news is that McConnel won't have the heavy weight of senate majority leader in 2017. I see a complete reversal in the numbers in November 2016.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 11:15 AM (f+6Pd)
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180 "Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion."
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I can't tell you how excited I am at the thought of voting for another establishment Republican. I can't tell you that because I'm not excited in the least bit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (noWW6)
Yes, the list is a mile long.
But you see this time, it'll be different.
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I can't tell you how excited I am at the thought of voting for another establishment Republican. I can't tell you that because I'm not excited in the least bit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 11:09 AM (noWW6)
Yes, the list is a mile long.
But you see this time, it'll be different.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:15 AM (LXJ1e)
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Jesus, the naivete on display.
This, mind you, from someone who thinks the spineless cowering McConnell will suddenly turn into a small-government superhero in 2016.
Physician heal thyself.
This, mind you, from someone who thinks the spineless cowering McConnell will suddenly turn into a small-government superhero in 2016.
Physician heal thyself.
Posted by: you have no credibility at September 02, 2015 11:16 AM (ZtFr+)
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Well the good news is that McConnel won't have the heavy weight of senate majority leader in 2017. I see a complete reversal in the numbers in November 2016.
Meh. I had a pretty good inning. It's their turn again for a while.
Meh. I had a pretty good inning. It's their turn again for a while.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 02, 2015 11:17 AM (75uvI)
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***"Forcing him to give up political capital?" Seriously? He gutted his party at the national level to achieve the things he wanted. Do you think he cares about "political capital?"
Jesus, the naivete on display."***
Apparently someone doesn't understand the concept of political capital.
/shocked face
Jesus, the naivete on display."***
Apparently someone doesn't understand the concept of political capital.
/shocked face
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:17 AM (Wckf4)
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Marco Rubio marcorubio 9 minutes ago
When I'm President, we won't just reverse President Obama's dangerous Iran deal. We will increase sanctions on Iran.
Please don't mention I voted for this to happen.
kthks
Marco Rubio marcorubio 9 minutes ago
When I'm President, we won't just reverse President Obama's dangerous Iran deal. We will increase sanctions on Iran.
Please don't mention I voted for this to happen.
kthks
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 11:18 AM (kdS6q)
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I have heard Mitch and Rubio actually use Ace's gag line "but we need the presidency" in all seriousness.
That's why nothing gets done. We need the presidency. GAH!
I'm tempted to vote for Trump.
That's why nothing gets done. We need the presidency. GAH!
I'm tempted to vote for Trump.
Posted by: PJ at September 02, 2015 11:18 AM (cHuNI)
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In reality, this deal was made as soon as Kerry and the P5+1 folded to Iran.
Posted by: JackStraw
While that's true, the bulk of the international deals are primarily economic (yes, I understand fungible). The surrender in the Senate directly impacts the US involvement in monitoring the nuclear weapons program.
Posted by: JackStraw
While that's true, the bulk of the international deals are primarily economic (yes, I understand fungible). The surrender in the Senate directly impacts the US involvement in monitoring the nuclear weapons program.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 11:18 AM (/Ho8c)
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Kal Today: News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves.
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Kal on August 21: 190 I'm to the point where I think the GOP needs to be blown up and I'm fine with Trump even if he loses.
We honestly need a new coalition, I LIKE that Trump is really, really pro-choice, I'm so sick of putting up with the Akins and Santorums.
Maybe we can leave that wing behind where it should have been left 30 years ago. We get clobbered with female voters because we have to explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion if they've been raped or their life is in danger. It's insane that we have those sorts of arguments in this day and age
Posted by: Kal at August 21, 2015 11:01 PM (A3kYV)
Posted by: Kal at September 02, 2015 10:40 AM (yUIAO)
Kal on August 21: 190 I'm to the point where I think the GOP needs to be blown up and I'm fine with Trump even if he loses.
We honestly need a new coalition, I LIKE that Trump is really, really pro-choice, I'm so sick of putting up with the Akins and Santorums.
Maybe we can leave that wing behind where it should have been left 30 years ago. We get clobbered with female voters because we have to explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion if they've been raped or their life is in danger. It's insane that we have those sorts of arguments in this day and age
Posted by: Kal at August 21, 2015 11:01 PM (A3kYV)
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 11:18 AM (zt+N6)
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They need to survive the next 16 months and win the election in 2016.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
They don't deserve to survive the next 16 minutes. The Vichy GOP are nothing but straight out traitors. Traitors. They are the lowest of scum.
They deserve to be run out of town on a rail, tossed into Brazen Bulls and have their ashes thrown in the most disgusting landfills in existence. But first, they will blow me.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
They don't deserve to survive the next 16 minutes. The Vichy GOP are nothing but straight out traitors. Traitors. They are the lowest of scum.
They deserve to be run out of town on a rail, tossed into Brazen Bulls and have their ashes thrown in the most disgusting landfills in existence. But first, they will blow me.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (zc3Db)
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I can't do anything until the Germans are out. Period!
Posted by: zombie marshal petain at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (pgzyN)
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212 Well the good news is that McConnel won't have the heavy weight of senate majority leader in 2017. I see a complete reversal in the numbers in November 2016.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 11:15 AM (f+6Pd)
________
Thank God. Being a leader is tough work. Much better to be in the minority for 30 years, get my pension and retire.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 11:15 AM (f+6Pd)
________
Thank God. Being a leader is tough work. Much better to be in the minority for 30 years, get my pension and retire.
Posted by: Mitch Da Bitch at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (0LHZx)
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Its pretty funny that trolls and mobys show up on this site, since the GOP is almost universally reviled here.
Its pretty funny that trolls and mobys show up on this site, since the GOP is almost universally reviled here.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (+aCe4)
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Marco Rubio marcorubio 9 minutes ago
When I'm President, we won't just reverse President Obama's dangerous Iran deal. We will increase sanctions on Iran.
I'll hold the football still this time. Pinkie swear.
When I'm President, we won't just reverse President Obama's dangerous Iran deal. We will increase sanctions on Iran.
I'll hold the football still this time. Pinkie swear.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (75uvI)
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They need to survive the next 16 months and win the election in 2016. That's the only priority. We are in a different time with a radically different Democrat party. They are down to the rump element of fanatical true believers. We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
And anybody who impedes that objective might as well be a Democrat openly.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
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This time it will be different, you'll see! Ha Ha Ha Ha.
According to you there is a suicidal President and Democrat party in control. But anything we do to make them more suicidal will only benefit the Democraps.
Does that even make sense?
They need to survive the next 16 months and win the election in 2016. That's the only priority. We are in a different time with a radically different Democrat party. They are down to the rump element of fanatical true believers. We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
And anybody who impedes that objective might as well be a Democrat openly.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
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This time it will be different, you'll see! Ha Ha Ha Ha.
According to you there is a suicidal President and Democrat party in control. But anything we do to make them more suicidal will only benefit the Democraps.
Does that even make sense?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (LXJ1e)
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Let me know when it's pitchfork time.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (/Ho8c)
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189
Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f)
Preach on brother. I'll bring the accelerants.
Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 02, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f)
Preach on brother. I'll bring the accelerants.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (DlmoZ)
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In reality, this deal was made as soon as Kerry and the P5+1 folded to Iran.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (OGm46)
Yeah I agree with that.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:03 AM (OGm46)
Yeah I agree with that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (gf8BH)
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"McConnell and the other leadership understand what so many apparently
don't. It doesn't matter what they do until Obama is out. Period."
When the Democrats were the _minority_ party in both the House and the Senate, they still routinely threw shoes in the gears, poured sugar in the gas tank, and engaged in vocal agitprop even when they knew they couldn't win particular votes. It's called being an opposition party.
Coming up tomorrow: a thrilling NEW episode of America's new favorite series, Elaborate Excuses For Indefensible Failure.
don't. It doesn't matter what they do until Obama is out. Period."
When the Democrats were the _minority_ party in both the House and the Senate, they still routinely threw shoes in the gears, poured sugar in the gas tank, and engaged in vocal agitprop even when they knew they couldn't win particular votes. It's called being an opposition party.
Coming up tomorrow: a thrilling NEW episode of America's new favorite series, Elaborate Excuses For Indefensible Failure.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (noWW6)
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Bill Clinton wasn't an ideologue.
Jesus, the naivete on display.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Were you staring into a mirror as you typed this?
Jesus, the naivete on display.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Were you staring into a mirror as you typed this?
Posted by: Bubba at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (Spluw)
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What is the administration's position on whether nuclear weapons can cause global warming?
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:20 AM (tfM+W)
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If you can't defund an organization that harvest organs from live human beings what good are you?
Seriously, what can you do if not protect the most vulnerable from "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
What will it be next - Obamacare's own Liverpool Care Pathway? One child policy? Refusing health care coverage for congenital defects/ chromosomal defects because we can't afford to cover free birth control AND downs babies?
Who will stop them?
Seriously, what can you do if not protect the most vulnerable from "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
What will it be next - Obamacare's own Liverpool Care Pathway? One child policy? Refusing health care coverage for congenital defects/ chromosomal defects because we can't afford to cover free birth control AND downs babies?
Who will stop them?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:20 AM (NOIQH)
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"This, mind you, from someone who thinks the spineless cowering
McConnell will suddenly turn into a small-government superhero in 2016."
He won't need to be. That's the point.
It won't matter who the Republican leader is then.
People seem to want catharsis in the near-term instead of actual substantive change in the long term, and they are willing to sacrifice the long-term to get that catharsis. That mentality is the opposite of conservatism and the opposite of maturity.
I thought conservatives were supposed to be the thoughtful, rational, reasoned side, not the adolescent, emotional, gimme now! side.
McConnell will suddenly turn into a small-government superhero in 2016."
He won't need to be. That's the point.
It won't matter who the Republican leader is then.
People seem to want catharsis in the near-term instead of actual substantive change in the long term, and they are willing to sacrifice the long-term to get that catharsis. That mentality is the opposite of conservatism and the opposite of maturity.
I thought conservatives were supposed to be the thoughtful, rational, reasoned side, not the adolescent, emotional, gimme now! side.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (ljZD2)
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I voted McCain. I voted Romney. I volunteered. I did what I could to help in 2014.
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN)
Me, too. I helped replace Donnelly with Walorski.....and Joe ends up in the Senate.
We are no longer a Constitutional Republic. These bastages do not work for us or do what we hired them to do.
I. Was. Played. For. A. Fool.
Fool me for nearly 30 years and blame on you.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN)
Me, too. I helped replace Donnelly with Walorski.....and Joe ends up in the Senate.
We are no longer a Constitutional Republic. These bastages do not work for us or do what we hired them to do.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (q9xEd)
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Ugh!
what can you do if not protect the most vulnerable from being denied "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
what can you do if not protect the most vulnerable from being denied "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (NOIQH)
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Stocks to invest in the future?
Let it burn. Anything Flammable.
Scatter the Stones. Anything explosive
Salt the earth where it stood. Salt of course.
Also if you don't mind waiting you can get in the ground floor of my IPO.
Tim's Land Reclamation and Desalinization Services.
I am expecting the profit margin to be very high.
Let it burn. Anything Flammable.
Scatter the Stones. Anything explosive
Salt the earth where it stood. Salt of course.
Also if you don't mind waiting you can get in the ground floor of my IPO.
Tim's Land Reclamation and Desalinization Services.
I am expecting the profit margin to be very high.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (6yehy)
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There is only one way that anything conservatives want to happen
policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January
2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it.
Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
==============
Once again: Bull-fucking-shit.
Put me in the Majority Leader's Chair and by the end of September I'll have five bills on Obama's desk that will--if he vetos them--cost him politically.
A bill punishing the IRS
A bill reforming the VA
A bill defunding PP
A bill ending sanctuary cities
A bill suspending Obamacare
Every fucking one of those has majority support.
And every fucking one of those he will have to veto.
And every fucking one of those vetos will cost him with the voters.
And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him.
So, piss off with the "stand by your man" bullshit.
policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January
2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it.
Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
==============
Once again: Bull-fucking-shit.
Put me in the Majority Leader's Chair and by the end of September I'll have five bills on Obama's desk that will--if he vetos them--cost him politically.
A bill punishing the IRS
A bill reforming the VA
A bill defunding PP
A bill ending sanctuary cities
A bill suspending Obamacare
Every fucking one of those has majority support.
And every fucking one of those he will have to veto.
And every fucking one of those vetos will cost him with the voters.
And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him.
So, piss off with the "stand by your man" bullshit.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (ZvKdv)
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The GOPe lives off of the blood of people like TrumpetDaddy.
I suspect TrumpetDaddy makes his money off the GOP.
The GOPe lives off of the blood of people like TrumpetDaddy.
I suspect TrumpetDaddy makes his money off the GOP.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (hsCpX)
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"Hell, we has the Presidency, Senate and the House and still got a Medicare expansion."
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I say the same thing about Nixon. He tried to 'work with' the democrats to find bipartisan solutions to problems the country was facing.
We got the EPA, which seemed like a good idea at the time.
Just like Common Core education standards which seemed like a good idea at the time.
Just like state run lotteries which conservatives all said would lead to casino gambling, but no, we were assured, it wouldn't. So lotteries were not the hill to die on, and now Illinois can't pay lottery winnings.
California is dropping out of CalPERS because the contribution is more than the state can afford. What does that mean to people expecting to get pensions?
We are in the predicament we are in because everything we voted for, or stood by and let happen, seemed like a good idea at the time.
So now what do we do?
The Medicare expansion and:
The DHS. The TSA. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Not one but two ruinously expensive, failed foreign wars. A giant economic bust. Harriet Miers seriously discussed as a Supreme Court nominee. The Dread Justice Roberts actually installed on the Supreme Court -- as the Chief!!!
I say the same thing about Nixon. He tried to 'work with' the democrats to find bipartisan solutions to problems the country was facing.
We got the EPA, which seemed like a good idea at the time.
Just like Common Core education standards which seemed like a good idea at the time.
Just like state run lotteries which conservatives all said would lead to casino gambling, but no, we were assured, it wouldn't. So lotteries were not the hill to die on, and now Illinois can't pay lottery winnings.
California is dropping out of CalPERS because the contribution is more than the state can afford. What does that mean to people expecting to get pensions?
We are in the predicament we are in because everything we voted for, or stood by and let happen, seemed like a good idea at the time.
So now what do we do?
Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (DKt5R)
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The Vichy GOP are nothing but straight out traitors.
You owe me zee Coca-Cola, I zhink, mon ami, TPOP.
You owe me zee Coca-Cola, I zhink, mon ami, TPOP.
Posted by: zombie marshal petain at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (pgzyN)
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Note that there is no discussion of the nuclear option [pun intended].
Of course it's just peachy when Hairy Reid does it.
Of course it's just peachy when Hairy Reid does it.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (laMCB)
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If this can be done by Executive action then we need be sure that all presumptive R nominees take a pledge to unmake this horror show completely, reimpose sanctions and take a firm stance against Iran possessing nuclear weapons, backed by the credible threat of force.
Barring that, it doesn't look good.
I've believed for a long time that the window for Israel to take out or even seriously delay Iran's program by conventional means alone has closed.
If Israel has to go it alone at this point, I think it would mean first use of nukes to Fordow and other massively dug in sites, to allow all conventional resources to be brought to bear on a more limited target list.
The fallout from that, literally and politically, is impossible to predict except for 100% probability of shitstorm.
Barring that, it doesn't look good.
I've believed for a long time that the window for Israel to take out or even seriously delay Iran's program by conventional means alone has closed.
If Israel has to go it alone at this point, I think it would mean first use of nukes to Fordow and other massively dug in sites, to allow all conventional resources to be brought to bear on a more limited target list.
The fallout from that, literally and politically, is impossible to predict except for 100% probability of shitstorm.
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (k8tEg)
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Nah, it was over the minute obama signaled his willingness to negotiate and all the other countries dropped their sanctions. The meetings, negotiations, agreement, deal, congress votes etc. mean nothing.
Except ME war. That is assured.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (ODxAs)
Not entirely true, but pretty much yeah. As soon as the deal was announced, then TFG ran to the UN and got the international sanctions shitcanned. Only then did it not matter anymore what our Congress did, though continued US sanctions would still hurt Iran's feelings a bit.
Except ME war. That is assured.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:12 AM (ODxAs)
Not entirely true, but pretty much yeah. As soon as the deal was announced, then TFG ran to the UN and got the international sanctions shitcanned. Only then did it not matter anymore what our Congress did, though continued US sanctions would still hurt Iran's feelings a bit.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (gyKtp)
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>>What is the administration's position on whether nuclear weapons can cause global warming?
It's all Israel's fault?
It's all Israel's fault?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (NOIQH)
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First they came for the Jews and I was like, 'what took you so long?'.
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (peRI/)
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If you can't defund an organization that harvest organs from live human beings what good are you?
Yep. We have reached the point where there is absolutely nothing left of the GOP to defend.
Yep. We have reached the point where there is absolutely nothing left of the GOP to defend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (75uvI)
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If Nostradomus was alive today he would be put out of business by this Congress. It's just too easy.
Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 11:22 AM (DNFK1)
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TrumpiDaddy is right about Clinton. He was not an ideologue.
Hillary is, Bill wasn't.
He's also right about political capital. Obama doesn't give a fuck about spending it since he doesn't care about approval ratings. If he could get his way and have a 10% approval rating, he'd do it. His end goal is the destruction of the US, not some bullshit political capital.
Hillary is, Bill wasn't.
He's also right about political capital. Obama doesn't give a fuck about spending it since he doesn't care about approval ratings. If he could get his way and have a 10% approval rating, he'd do it. His end goal is the destruction of the US, not some bullshit political capital.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:23 AM (0LHZx)
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California is dropping out of CalPERS]/i]
Sorry, my bad. That should be the bankrupt california city of San Bernardino.
Sorry, my bad. That should be the bankrupt california city of San Bernardino.
Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 11:23 AM (DKt5R)
Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 11:23 AM (DKt5R)
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Choke on dead baby parts McConnell and the rest of Congress. The imagery may be graphic but the sentiment is real. I hate them more for this than their continued funding of our economic death spiral or foreign policy disasters. It is such a no brainer fix.
Posted by: dogfish at September 02, 2015 11:23 AM (2/WhT)
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I thought conservatives were supposed to be the thoughtful, rational, reasoned side, not the adolescent, emotional, gimme now! side.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (ljZD2)
Please set out for me the evidence you have that demonstrates that the GOP will act to advance the Republican, to say nothing of conservative, agenda should the Republicans regain control of the Presidency and maintain control of the House and Senate.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (ljZD2)
Please set out for me the evidence you have that demonstrates that the GOP will act to advance the Republican, to say nothing of conservative, agenda should the Republicans regain control of the Presidency and maintain control of the House and Senate.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:23 AM (mf5HN)
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The Republicans should change their mascot from an elephant to a turtle with a boner.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 11:24 AM (E5UB0)
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Thanks undead Buzzion. Kal seemed like a troll, but that confirms it.
Is it Omega Moo Moo perhaps?
Thanks undead Buzzion. Kal seemed like a troll, but that confirms it.
Is it Omega Moo Moo perhaps?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 11:24 AM (m3iiU)
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Some people forget that when they were pushing for control of the Senate part of that claim was "Sure we probably still won't get the stuff passed but Boehner and the House have been passing good bills that Harry Reid refuses to allow a vote on. With the Senate they will get voted on and we can use those against Democrats in the Senate and actually force Obama to veto these bills!"
Yeah, where are those awesome bills that the Senate was finally supposed to be able to vote on?
Yeah, where are those awesome bills that the Senate was finally supposed to be able to vote on?
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 11:24 AM (zt+N6)
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There is only one way that anything conservatives want to happen
policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January
2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it.
Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
They. Aren't. Even. Pretending. To. Try. To. Succeed.
Even their theatrics are useless and shitty.
policy-wise will ever happen. One. That way is if at noon on 20 January
2017 a Republican is taking the presidential oath of office. That's it.
Period. Anything else other than that is automatically going to fail.
They. Aren't. Even. Pretending. To. Try. To. Succeed.
Even their theatrics are useless and shitty.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 11:24 AM (/Ho8c)
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Yes, the list is a mile long.
But you see this time, it'll be different.
Posted by: Make America Great Again
Yes, a different list of capitulations.
But you see this time, it'll be different.
Posted by: Make America Great Again
Yes, a different list of capitulations.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 11:24 AM (W5DcG)
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Israel will strike no later than February 2017, no matter who is the next president.
I would bet money on that one.
Israel will strike no later than February 2017, no matter who is the next president.
I would bet money on that one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (St6BJ)
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>> The Republicans should change their mascot from an elephant to a turtle with a boner.
Nah, boner implies excitement.
Orangey turtle passed-out drunk.
Nah, boner implies excitement.
Orangey turtle passed-out drunk.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (NOIQH)
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"And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him."
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the same incentives.
Accept reality.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the same incentives.
Accept reality.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (ljZD2)
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For whatever it's worth - which is essentially zero - Kirsten Gillibrand is going to be blasted with protests.
For whatever it's worth - which is essentially zero - Kirsten Gillibrand is going to be blasted with protests.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (St6BJ)
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Dear TrumpetDaddy,
The political and rhetorical calculus is simple - I can continue to vote for your candidates and get liberal/leftist preferences. Therefore I do not need your vote because my preferences are ignored.
You, however, need my vote. So what are you doing to convince me? Telling me the sky is red and then calling me an idiot?
I don't need your vote. You need mine. The GOP needs mine. You are failing miserably and don't even know it.
The political and rhetorical calculus is simple - I can continue to vote for your candidates and get liberal/leftist preferences. Therefore I do not need your vote because my preferences are ignored.
You, however, need my vote. So what are you doing to convince me? Telling me the sky is red and then calling me an idiot?
I don't need your vote. You need mine. The GOP needs mine. You are failing miserably and don't even know it.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (Wckf4)
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Democrats in the majority had no problem obstructing Bush.
And the all-Republican government under Bush had no problem pursuing the statist, big gummint agenda.
Preznit Jeb Kasich! won't be any different from any of that.
But they'll cut the paper clip budget of the Department of More and Better and celebrate their conservatism.
And the all-Republican government under Bush had no problem pursuing the statist, big gummint agenda.
Preznit Jeb Kasich! won't be any different from any of that.
But they'll cut the paper clip budget of the Department of More and Better and celebrate their conservatism.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (hsCpX)
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>>While that's true, the bulk of the international deals are primarily economic (yes, I understand fungible). The surrender in the Senate directly impacts the US involvement in monitoring the nuclear weapons program.
Of course they are which is exactly why the rest of the world voted to accept this deal, they want to do business with Iran and the consequences be damned. When has the EU been aggressive in fighting this shit when it wasn't in their financial interest? They only reason France helped in Libya was because they had a huge oil interest there.
But those economic interests aren't always for peaceful purposes. China has already agreed to build a new heavy water reactor in Iran to replace the one at Arak. That happened in the last couple weeks. That was strictly prohibited under the old international sanctions. China has been trying to fill the void we left in the middle east ever since Obama's retreat and they have large oil interests in Iran. Same with Russia.
And the old sanctions agreement put the UN in charge of monitoring Iran for compliance with atomic restrictions. This one just weakens it further.
There were articles last year stating that it was Obama's plan all along to go to the UN first because once the other partners walked away the US would be isolated. That's exactly what happened. It doesn't mean the Senate under McConnell isn't weak, just means this is all on Obama.
Of course they are which is exactly why the rest of the world voted to accept this deal, they want to do business with Iran and the consequences be damned. When has the EU been aggressive in fighting this shit when it wasn't in their financial interest? They only reason France helped in Libya was because they had a huge oil interest there.
But those economic interests aren't always for peaceful purposes. China has already agreed to build a new heavy water reactor in Iran to replace the one at Arak. That happened in the last couple weeks. That was strictly prohibited under the old international sanctions. China has been trying to fill the void we left in the middle east ever since Obama's retreat and they have large oil interests in Iran. Same with Russia.
And the old sanctions agreement put the UN in charge of monitoring Iran for compliance with atomic restrictions. This one just weakens it further.
There were articles last year stating that it was Obama's plan all along to go to the UN first because once the other partners walked away the US would be isolated. That's exactly what happened. It doesn't mean the Senate under McConnell isn't weak, just means this is all on Obama.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (OGm46)
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The real problem is Bitch and Boner rely on what the MSM and consultants tell them. And they all tell them in order to win they have to act like Obama's rubber stamp.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (0LHZx)
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Israel will strike no later than February 2017, no matter who is the next president.
I would bet money on that one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (St6BJ)
Short of an intel report that Iran is about to strike Israel I don't think you will see something like that.
What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work accidents
I would bet money on that one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (St6BJ)
Short of an intel report that Iran is about to strike Israel I don't think you will see something like that.
What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work accidents
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (gf8BH)
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 02, 2015 11:18 AM (kdS6q)
But, but, but...Rubio is an experienced politician!!
But, but, but...Rubio is an experienced politician!!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (Wckf4)
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Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 02, 2015 11:21 AM (q9xEd)
The will not to believe is very strong, as in "I can believe the GOPe would be this venal, cynical and corrupt."
My eyes were opened after the Mississippi Primary (why did it take me so long? I guess I was hoping the GOP was reformable).
The GOP could have won with McDaniels. But keeping old senile Cochrane was just too important, and who cares if Mitch smears a bunch of good conservatives?
We'll have to see how this plays out, but the only thing surprising about Bitche's latest move is how blatantly cynical it is. He's all in for "governing" and could give a rat's ass about what the (former) base thinks.
The will not to believe is very strong, as in "I can believe the GOPe would be this venal, cynical and corrupt."
My eyes were opened after the Mississippi Primary (why did it take me so long? I guess I was hoping the GOP was reformable).
The GOP could have won with McDaniels. But keeping old senile Cochrane was just too important, and who cares if Mitch smears a bunch of good conservatives?
We'll have to see how this plays out, but the only thing surprising about Bitche's latest move is how blatantly cynical it is. He's all in for "governing" and could give a rat's ass about what the (former) base thinks.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (laMCB)
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People seem to want catharsis in the near-term instead of actual substantive change in the long term
You believe the gang of clowns you support are willing to, to say nothing of capable of, making substantive change in the long term.
Who's naive now?
You believe the gang of clowns you support are willing to, to say nothing of capable of, making substantive change in the long term.
Who's naive now?
Posted by: you have no credibility at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (ZtFr+)
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You have to hand it to Obama. The guy had near 100% approval ratings of blacks and now he has a solid 100% approval or radical Islamists.
Posted by: Drider at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (DNFK1)
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262 "And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him."
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the same incentives.
Accept reality.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (ljZD2)
When you have the entire Federal bureaucracy 99.99% leftist, the Judiciary an activist rubber stamp, and a GOP that does not oppose any of it, then it almost virtually does not matter who the president is.
The question is, does it matter who we the people are, and if so how do we now make that known?
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the same incentives.
Accept reality.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (ljZD2)
When you have the entire Federal bureaucracy 99.99% leftist, the Judiciary an activist rubber stamp, and a GOP that does not oppose any of it, then it almost virtually does not matter who the president is.
The question is, does it matter who we the people are, and if so how do we now make that known?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (St6BJ)
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263
For whatever it's worth - which is essentially zero - Kirsten Gillibrand is going to be blasted with protests.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (St6BJ)
__________
Oh dear. So next election her margin of victory will shrink from 30% to 27%.
For whatever it's worth - which is essentially zero - Kirsten Gillibrand is going to be blasted with protests.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:26 AM (St6BJ)
__________
Oh dear. So next election her margin of victory will shrink from 30% to 27%.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (tfM+W)
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We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
Apparently the way you defeat them is to bend over backwards to enable their agenda at every opportunity.
Apparently the way you defeat them is to bend over backwards to enable their agenda at every opportunity.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (eytER)
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274 Oh dear. So next election her margin of victory will shrink from 30% to 27%.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (0LHZx)
'zacly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:28 AM (0LHZx)
'zacly.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:29 AM (St6BJ)
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What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people
going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work
accidents
I wonder if Israel is pissed at China.
What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people
going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work
accidents
I wonder if Israel is pissed at China.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:29 AM (hsCpX)
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I want an ammo subsidy.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (laMCB)
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@268
Isreal being Israel they will make one or two dramatic demonstrations (e.g. your work accidents) to let the world know they are being put up against a wall and to satisfy themselves that before they pushed The Button (as they would have to do in a serious effort to stop Iran) that they've discharged their ethical obligation to do all they can to warn the world.
Isreal being Israel they will make one or two dramatic demonstrations (e.g. your work accidents) to let the world know they are being put up against a wall and to satisfy themselves that before they pushed The Button (as they would have to do in a serious effort to stop Iran) that they've discharged their ethical obligation to do all they can to warn the world.
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (k8tEg)
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We cannot reason with them. We can only defeat them.
________
You have a typo. You spelled enable as defeat.
________
You have a typo. You spelled enable as defeat.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (0LHZx)
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268 What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work accidents
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (gf8BH)
Alles zusammen. Chh, chh, chhh, puh, puh, puh (spit in the wind 3 times)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:27 AM (gf8BH)
Alles zusammen. Chh, chh, chhh, puh, puh, puh (spit in the wind 3 times)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (St6BJ)
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191, 195 See, you can TOTALLY personally insult somebody here solely because you disagree with their position.
It's not a RULE-rule, after all
191, 195 See, you can TOTALLY personally insult somebody here solely because you disagree with their position.
It's not a RULE-rule, after all
Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (LAliD)
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The GOPe lives off of the blood of people like TrumpetDaddy.
No matter they do he supports them.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (+aCe4)
Perhaps he and his type are paid shills for the party. If he/they can whip these votes, the rest will be easy.
He come off as way to Rah Rah to be impartial. I belive there is money involved.
So, to trumpetdaddy, and any others here, Here is one clue;
Some people don't care about Party anymore. Party is only important insofar as it helps implement policy. Policy is what counts. If neither party represents
No matter they do he supports them.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM (+aCe4)
Perhaps he and his type are paid shills for the party. If he/they can whip these votes, the rest will be easy.
He come off as way to Rah Rah to be impartial. I belive there is money involved.
So, to trumpetdaddy, and any others here, Here is one clue;
Some people don't care about Party anymore. Party is only important insofar as it helps implement policy. Policy is what counts. If neither party represents
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (kKHcp)
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Iranians with nukes?
I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (tfM+W)
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Apparently the way you defeat them is to bend over backwards to enable their agenda at every opportunity
You fund organizations that farm children's organs. That's the Republican long game.
You fund organizations that farm children's organs. That's the Republican long game.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (OqR5R)
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255
The Republicans should change their mascot from an elephant to a turtle with a boner.
Actually, a turtle set up on a post.
Don't belong there.
Can't get anything done
The Republicans should change their mascot from an elephant to a turtle with a boner.
Actually, a turtle set up on a post.
Don't belong there.
Can't get anything done
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (DlmoZ)
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>>Citizens with guns, bad.
Iranian mullahs with nukes, good.
Heh:
- We MUST have universal, more thorough background checks to ensure crazy people can't get guns
- It's totes OK to let the crazy Mullahs do their own inspections to certify that they're not building nukes.
Iranian mullahs with nukes, good.
Heh:
- We MUST have universal, more thorough background checks to ensure crazy people can't get guns
- It's totes OK to let the crazy Mullahs do their own inspections to certify that they're not building nukes.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:32 AM (NOIQH)
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278 I wonder if Israel is pissed at China.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:29 AM (hsCpX)
If the Chinese really wanted to conquer the world, they'd partner up with Israel. But those shape-shifting shylocking shysters would sham-wow them to Shanghai.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 02, 2015 11:29 AM (hsCpX)
If the Chinese really wanted to conquer the world, they'd partner up with Israel. But those shape-shifting shylocking shysters would sham-wow them to Shanghai.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:32 AM (St6BJ)
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Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (LAliD)
So when did AoSHQ appoint an Official Blog Scold?
So when did AoSHQ appoint an Official Blog Scold?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:32 AM (75uvI)
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***"Forcing him to give up political capital?" Seriously? He gutted his
party at the national level to achieve the things he wanted. Do you
think he cares about "political capital?"
Jesus, the naivete on display."***
Apparently someone doesn't understand the concept of political capital.
/shocked face
===========
Yeah, no shit.
Name a single bill the GOP has sent to Obama specifically because it enjoys 60% plus support yet they know he will veto it?
Oh, none?
"But we can't try it this time--or ever--because he will veto it!!! And we will look good and he will look bad!!!!!"
party at the national level to achieve the things he wanted. Do you
think he cares about "political capital?"
Jesus, the naivete on display."***
Apparently someone doesn't understand the concept of political capital.
/shocked face
===========
Yeah, no shit.
Name a single bill the GOP has sent to Obama specifically because it enjoys 60% plus support yet they know he will veto it?
Oh, none?
"But we can't try it this time--or ever--because he will veto it!!! And we will look good and he will look bad!!!!!"
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:33 AM (ZvKdv)
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286 Iranians with nukes?
I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (tfM+W)
Color guard or colored guards? Now I denounce myself.
I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (tfM+W)
Color guard or colored guards? Now I denounce myself.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:33 AM (St6BJ)
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I want you to believe that you are buying into a strawman of my creation. And note that i continue to ignore the fact that dems in the minority achieve far greater results.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Even if it true that "dems are different you dummies", that still leaves the problem of what, if anything, is there to do about it. The last time we had what you espoused,we got nowhere, or perhaps sucked a bit less.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
Even if it true that "dems are different you dummies", that still leaves the problem of what, if anything, is there to do about it. The last time we had what you espoused,we got nowhere, or perhaps sucked a bit less.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 11:33 AM (Spluw)
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***"He's also right about political capital. Obama doesn't give a fuck about spending it since he doesn't care about approval ratings."***
Actually, you're wrong about political capital too. Another shocker.
Obama is spending his political capital. Not that he really earned any of it being the Leftist he is, but he's spent it and spent it well from his perspective.
Actually, you're wrong about political capital too. Another shocker.
Obama is spending his political capital. Not that he really earned any of it being the Leftist he is, but he's spent it and spent it well from his perspective.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (Wckf4)
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"Apparently the way you defeat them is to bend over backwards to enable their agenda at every opportunity."
Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Always.
Whatever it takes to get a non-Democrat past the media and the LIVs. Obama lied and sold himself as a moderate "uniter" type. If that is what we have to do to get our ideologue in, that's what we have to do. I want actual victory not catharsis "victory."
Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Always.
Whatever it takes to get a non-Democrat past the media and the LIVs. Obama lied and sold himself as a moderate "uniter" type. If that is what we have to do to get our ideologue in, that's what we have to do. I want actual victory not catharsis "victory."
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (ljZD2)
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I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
Why does TSA have a color guard?
Why does TSA have a color guard?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 02, 2015 11:35 AM (S+N7W)
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Obama is spending his political capital. Not that he really earned any of it being the Leftist he is, but he's spent it and spent it well from his perspective.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (Wckf4)
__________
Like basic economic concepts, you don't seem to understand what political capital is or how it works. But whateves.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (Wckf4)
__________
Like basic economic concepts, you don't seem to understand what political capital is or how it works. But whateves.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:35 AM (0LHZx)
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If the Chinese really wanted to conquer the world, they'd partner up with Israel. But those shape-shifting shylocking shysters would sham-wow them to Shanghai.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:32 AM (St6BJ)
Yeah true, but the Chicoms need MIddle East Oil, so.....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:32 AM (St6BJ)
Yeah true, but the Chicoms need MIddle East Oil, so.....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:35 AM (gf8BH)
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Mitch Da Bitch at September 02, 2015 11:19 AM
Dude Mitch, you are a senator you don't have to put in 30 years to get the gold plated pension just retire now. We need the tea party sentiment folks to form a Liberty party or take over the Constitution party or something.
In the meantime go Trump go, its to the point that if you do nothing but smash the GOP to the point a real opposition party has space to form I'll consider that a positive.
Dude Mitch, you are a senator you don't have to put in 30 years to get the gold plated pension just retire now. We need the tea party sentiment folks to form a Liberty party or take over the Constitution party or something.
In the meantime go Trump go, its to the point that if you do nothing but smash the GOP to the point a real opposition party has space to form I'll consider that a positive.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (iA/+T)
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Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
So WHAT IS the "ultimate objective"?
Getting Jeb Bush elected? Rubio? Kasich? Then what?
So WHAT IS the "ultimate objective"?
Getting Jeb Bush elected? Rubio? Kasich? Then what?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (75uvI)
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On the bright side, I think the GOPe has the votes needed to go f+ck itself.
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (tfM+W)
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The TSA are mall cops junior grade.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (i23N/)
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The last time we had what you espoused,we got nowhere, or perhaps sucked a bit less.
I think a lot of us mistook the prolonged yowling of the progtards during the W. years as a signal that something was actually happening that was good for conservatism. That definitely wasn't true.
I think a lot of us mistook the prolonged yowling of the progtards during the W. years as a signal that something was actually happening that was good for conservatism. That definitely wasn't true.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (S+N7W)
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The GOP just indicated just how much they are okay with overreaching executive privilege. Now it's enshrined on a golden altar.
They are too afraid to actually pass a bill on anything, so they are waiting for a new Daddy to get elected so he can do it. That way, they can blame him!
Pathetic.
They are too afraid to actually pass a bill on anything, so they are waiting for a new Daddy to get elected so he can do it. That way, they can blame him!
Pathetic.
Posted by: PJ at September 02, 2015 11:36 AM (cHuNI)
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Kal on August 21: 190 I'm to the point where I think the GOP needs to be blown up and I'm fine with Trump even if he loses.
We honestly need a new coalition, I LIKE that Trump is really,
really pro-choice, I'm so sick of putting up with the Akins and
Santorums.
Maybe we can leave that wing behind where it should have been left
30 years ago. We get clobbered with female voters because we have to
explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion if they've been
raped or their life is in danger. It's insane that we have those sorts
of arguments in this day and age
Posted by: Kal at August 21, 2015 11:01 PM (A3kYV)
In the 2008 election white women voted Republican according to exit pols. The problem was that the 51% that voted Republican could not override the 96% that black women voted Democrat.
So sex isn't the issue, color is the overriding issue.
We honestly need a new coalition, I LIKE that Trump is really,
really pro-choice, I'm so sick of putting up with the Akins and
Santorums.
Maybe we can leave that wing behind where it should have been left
30 years ago. We get clobbered with female voters because we have to
explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion if they've been
raped or their life is in danger. It's insane that we have those sorts
of arguments in this day and age
Posted by: Kal at August 21, 2015 11:01 PM (A3kYV)
In the 2008 election white women voted Republican according to exit pols. The problem was that the 51% that voted Republican could not override the 96% that black women voted Democrat.
So sex isn't the issue, color is the overriding issue.
Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2015 11:37 AM (t2KH5)
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Once again... WRONG ARGUMENT!!!!
The difference between an Executive Agreement, and a Treaty, is that an executive agreement can be done with JUST the powers of the Executive, while a Treaty needs supporting legislation.
We will be paying Iran, through the UN, to do their own inspections.... that money must be APPROPRIATED through Legislation.
Thus, this IS a Treaty, not an Executive Agreement, and thus needs the CONSTIUTIONS mandated Senate approval (not disapproval).
The difference between an Executive Agreement, and a Treaty, is that an executive agreement can be done with JUST the powers of the Executive, while a Treaty needs supporting legislation.
We will be paying Iran, through the UN, to do their own inspections.... that money must be APPROPRIATED through Legislation.
Thus, this IS a Treaty, not an Executive Agreement, and thus needs the CONSTIUTIONS mandated Senate approval (not disapproval).
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 02, 2015 11:37 AM (qh617)
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It always amazes me how some..er one asshole here seems to think insulting people will win him an argument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:37 AM (gf8BH)
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>>Getting Jeb Bush elected? Rubio? Kasich? Then what?
BOHICA with a side of the GOP prezzy lecturing us on what H8rs we are for not embracing mass immigration, Common Core, AGW, etc.?
BOHICA with a side of the GOP prezzy lecturing us on what H8rs we are for not embracing mass immigration, Common Core, AGW, etc.?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2015 11:37 AM (NOIQH)
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Why does TSA have a color guard?
Hey, you one of those psychic mind readers? I could not stop laughing when they were announced at the game.
Hey, you one of those psychic mind readers? I could not stop laughing when they were announced at the game.
Posted by: USA at September 02, 2015 11:37 AM (tfM+W)
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Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (LAliD)
Quitcher whinging. We swing hard around here. If that's going to get your frilly panties in a bunch every time, I'm sure the Hot Air button on your computer works.
Quitcher whinging. We swing hard around here. If that's going to get your frilly panties in a bunch every time, I'm sure the Hot Air button on your computer works.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (FGIR8)
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TrumpDaddy:
With a Democrat prezzie you're going 100MPH towards communism. With Jeb or Kasich the car slows down to 85MPH.
Does it make a difference? Sure I suppose you delay the inevitable by a few years. But really, in the long run, it doesn't matter.
With a Democrat prezzie you're going 100MPH towards communism. With Jeb or Kasich the car slows down to 85MPH.
Does it make a difference? Sure I suppose you delay the inevitable by a few years. But really, in the long run, it doesn't matter.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (LA7Cm)
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279 I want an ammo subsidy.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (u5gzz)
Tax free sales of guns and ammo (AND longbows) this weekend in MS. Stock up now.
284 Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (LAliD)
Oh goody, the self appointed blog policeman is on duty, even after Maet warned him about it just the day before.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 02, 2015 11:30 AM (u5gzz)
Tax free sales of guns and ammo (AND longbows) this weekend in MS. Stock up now.
284 Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 11:31 AM (LAliD)
Oh goody, the self appointed blog policeman is on duty, even after Maet warned him about it just the day before.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (gyKtp)
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So when did AoSHQ appoint an Official Blog Scold?
Well......I mean there *is* prominently featured in the sidebar that message about the personal attacks...
If it's going to be enforced, it should be enforced evenly, right?
Well......I mean there *is* prominently featured in the sidebar that message about the personal attacks...
If it's going to be enforced, it should be enforced evenly, right?
Posted by: GMan at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (sxq57)
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OneEyedJack, I suspect you are right about him. All he is doing tho is further cementing our hate of the GOPe
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (+aCe4)
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Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
This Iran "deal" is not a short term win. It has far reaching and serious repercussions. We aren't talking about some stupid farm bill that the GOP can refuse to reauthorize in the next political cycle (as if they would anyway). We're talking about enabling an enemy of the US and creating an existential threat to a ME ally.
It's not conservatives who are being short sighted...it's the GOPe who can't seem to think beyond the next election.
The GOPe is giving up easy layups in the hopes of nailing a three pointer at the buzzer. It's stupid.
This Iran "deal" is not a short term win. It has far reaching and serious repercussions. We aren't talking about some stupid farm bill that the GOP can refuse to reauthorize in the next political cycle (as if they would anyway). We're talking about enabling an enemy of the US and creating an existential threat to a ME ally.
It's not conservatives who are being short sighted...it's the GOPe who can't seem to think beyond the next election.
The GOPe is giving up easy layups in the hopes of nailing a three pointer at the buzzer. It's stupid.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (eytER)
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"So WHAT IS the "ultimate objective"?
Getting Jeb Bush elected? Rubio? Kasich? Then what?"
Then what? Start reversing all this shit. But none of that will happen, or even have a chance of happening, if we can't manage to even win the damn election.
First things first.
Getting Jeb Bush elected? Rubio? Kasich? Then what?"
Then what? Start reversing all this shit. But none of that will happen, or even have a chance of happening, if we can't manage to even win the damn election.
First things first.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (ljZD2)
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Anything, ANYTHING, that distracts from the task of seeing that Republicans have unified control of the federal government come January 2017 is a waste of time and energy. Because nothing of any substance will happen until that is accomplished.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Umm, we already tried it and they fucked us even harder.
I wish long and painful deaths for these GOPe scum.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 10:55 AM (ljZD2)
Umm, we already tried it and they fucked us even harder.
I wish long and painful deaths for these GOPe scum.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (JOG+K)
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I want actual victory not catharsis "victory."
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
There's the strawman again. The only one here prattling on about catharsis is you.
Actual victory was dubya, and the Stupid party running the House and Senate. We got shit.
And the best you can do is scold us and tell us to set our eyes on this prize!?!
The pineapple has cut off the oxygen flow.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
There's the strawman again. The only one here prattling on about catharsis is you.
Actual victory was dubya, and the Stupid party running the House and Senate. We got shit.
And the best you can do is scold us and tell us to set our eyes on this prize!?!
The pineapple has cut off the oxygen flow.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (Spluw)
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And anybody who impedes that objective might as well be a Democrat openly.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
Oh, right: the nth level chess theory of Republican leadership. Me, I go with Occam's Razor: McConnell and Boehner refuse to oppose Democratic legislation and policy proposals because they--more specifically their masters--agree with that legislation and those policy proposals.
Take immigration, for example. The bought-and-paid-forGOP Establishment wants more immigration reform aka massamnesty because the donor class loves them some of that sweet, cheap labor, not because they're fearful opposition to amnesty, whether legislative or executive, would hamper chances of a Republican victory in 2016. This is known. This is fact.
Look at the poll numbers of American voters opposed to what are essentially open borders policies--a large majority (59%) strongly opposed, vehemently opposed. A Republican politician simply couldn't lose siding with the people on this issue, yet they won't take it up, they won't make a stand, they won't even pretend.
Look, I'm a Republican, too--a faithful, straight-ticket GOP voting kind of guy, but enough is enough.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:14 AM (ljZD2)
Oh, right: the nth level chess theory of Republican leadership. Me, I go with Occam's Razor: McConnell and Boehner refuse to oppose Democratic legislation and policy proposals because they--more specifically their masters--agree with that legislation and those policy proposals.
Take immigration, for example. The bought-and-paid-forGOP Establishment wants more immigration reform aka massamnesty because the donor class loves them some of that sweet, cheap labor, not because they're fearful opposition to amnesty, whether legislative or executive, would hamper chances of a Republican victory in 2016. This is known. This is fact.
Look at the poll numbers of American voters opposed to what are essentially open borders policies--a large majority (59%) strongly opposed, vehemently opposed. A Republican politician simply couldn't lose siding with the people on this issue, yet they won't take it up, they won't make a stand, they won't even pretend.
Look, I'm a Republican, too--a faithful, straight-ticket GOP voting kind of guy, but enough is enough.
Posted by: troyriser at September 02, 2015 11:40 AM (Bvf82)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 11:40 AM (W5DcG)
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***"The last time we had what you espoused,we got nowhere, or perhaps sucked a bit less."***
I'd say it sucked a whole lot more. We went from projected surplus to massive increases in spending and the size and scope of government.
So we got major tangible suckage and handed the Dems a gigantic rhetorical bat with which to beat Repubicans over the head with when they start talking about small government and fiscal responsibility. And they're not wrong when they use that bat.
And yet here we are - in light of mountains of readily-available tangible evidence to the contrary - debating how we must, MUST give the GOP more power because, gosh darnit, THIS TIME they're going to get their own party platforms right.
I'd say it sucked a whole lot more. We went from projected surplus to massive increases in spending and the size and scope of government.
So we got major tangible suckage and handed the Dems a gigantic rhetorical bat with which to beat Repubicans over the head with when they start talking about small government and fiscal responsibility. And they're not wrong when they use that bat.
And yet here we are - in light of mountains of readily-available tangible evidence to the contrary - debating how we must, MUST give the GOP more power because, gosh darnit, THIS TIME they're going to get their own party platforms right.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:40 AM (Wckf4)
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First things first.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
1. Vote for people who have no intention of doing anything of value except for themselves.
2.
3. All is well.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
1. Vote for people who have no intention of doing anything of value except for themselves.
2.
3. All is well.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 11:40 AM (Spluw)
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>>What you might very well see, as I have said, is things and people going to boom in the night over in Iran. Mysterious explosions and work accidents
See the link I posted above about the sanctions the US is considering placing on a number of of companies in China, Russia and other countries for violating the selling of prohibited equipment to Iran. One of those companies is a chemical company in Tianjin, China home of a very recent and very large and very mysterious chemical explosion in the last week.
See the link I posted above about the sanctions the US is considering placing on a number of of companies in China, Russia and other countries for violating the selling of prohibited equipment to Iran. One of those companies is a chemical company in Tianjin, China home of a very recent and very large and very mysterious chemical explosion in the last week.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
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326 OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
That's so few
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
That's so few
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (OqR5R)
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Alternate headline: Senate Dem ensure Israeli bombing of Iran
Posted by: Sho Nuff at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (GyLbC)
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Then what? Start reversing all this shit. But none of that will happen, or even have a chance of happening, if we can't manage to even win the damn election.
First things first.
Bless your heart.
First things first.
Bless your heart.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (75uvI)
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What will it be next - Obamacare's own Liverpool Care Pathway? One child policy? Refusing health care coverage for congenital defects/ chromosomal defects because we can't afford to cover free birth control AND downs babies?
Who will stop them?
Posted by: Lizzy
For now they are concentrating on trans kids being allowed in all bathrooms....you know, priorities but I have no doubt that what you wrote is definitely on the agenda.
Who will stop them?
Posted by: Lizzy
For now they are concentrating on trans kids being allowed in all bathrooms....you know, priorities but I have no doubt that what you wrote is definitely on the agenda.
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (oiNtH)
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If it's going to be enforced, it should be enforced evenly, right?
Posted by: GMan at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (sxq57)
Equal protection under law has not been US policy sine January 2009. Now shut up and eat your peas you filthy prole.
Posted by: GMan at September 02, 2015 11:38 AM (sxq57)
Equal protection under law has not been US policy sine January 2009. Now shut up and eat your peas you filthy prole.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (JOG+K)
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (3tjn4)
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326 OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Great. You just know that those little bastards are going to defy the laws of the universe and he's going to lose one and someone is going to wind up stepping on it in outer space.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Great. You just know that those little bastards are going to defy the laws of the universe and he's going to lose one and someone is going to wind up stepping on it in outer space.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 11:42 AM (zt+N6)
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***"Like basic economic concepts, you don't seem to understand what political capital is or how it works. But whateves."***
Yes yes, after your stellar performances in economic debates, that cut deep.
Focus son, we're talking about political capital, not economic capital.
Yes yes, after your stellar performances in economic debates, that cut deep.
Focus son, we're talking about political capital, not economic capital.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (Wckf4)
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"Apparently the way you defeat them is to bend over backwards to enable their agenda at every opportunity."
Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Bwahahaha!! That' s the epitome of the running joke here of "this is not the hill to die on!"
You sir, have beclowned yourself. (unless of course you are a sock, in which case....Bravo!)
Yes yes yes, by all means lets us advance to the rear until there is nothing behind us but the cliff.
Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Bwahahaha!! That' s the epitome of the running joke here of "this is not the hill to die on!"
You sir, have beclowned yourself. (unless of course you are a sock, in which case....Bravo!)
Yes yes yes, by all means lets us advance to the rear until there is nothing behind us but the cliff.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (kKHcp)
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Yes, if it is necessary to allow them to "win" in the short-term over the next 16 months in order to win the White House back, that is exactly what you do.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Always.
Whatever it takes to get a non-Democrat past the media and the LIVs. Obama lied and sold himself as a moderate "uniter" type. If that is what we have to do to get our ideologue in, that's what we have to do. I want actual victory not catharsis "victory."
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (ljZD2)
It's funny how you keep lecturing about having a long view and the like while you appear to be ignorant of the last, oh, say, 40 odd years of American history.
Not to mention 2012. Not to mention 2014. Not to mention what has happened so far in 2015.
Again, please set out your evidence, not assertions, but evidence that the GOP, upon being given a unified Executive and Legislature, will work to advance the Republican, let alone conservative agenda.
Multiple people have set out evidence arguing to the contrary. I am asking you to provide yours.
You are the one making the argument. You have the burden of persuasion. Persuade me.
I am not being bitchy.
I am not being snarky.
Hell, I want to believe that this time will be different.
So show me your work. Show me what concrete evidence exists in support of your proposition.
Eyes on the prize. Ultimate objective is more important than secondary objectives.
Always.
Whatever it takes to get a non-Democrat past the media and the LIVs. Obama lied and sold himself as a moderate "uniter" type. If that is what we have to do to get our ideologue in, that's what we have to do. I want actual victory not catharsis "victory."
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 02, 2015 11:34 AM (ljZD2)
It's funny how you keep lecturing about having a long view and the like while you appear to be ignorant of the last, oh, say, 40 odd years of American history.
Not to mention 2012. Not to mention 2014. Not to mention what has happened so far in 2015.
Again, please set out your evidence, not assertions, but evidence that the GOP, upon being given a unified Executive and Legislature, will work to advance the Republican, let alone conservative agenda.
Multiple people have set out evidence arguing to the contrary. I am asking you to provide yours.
You are the one making the argument. You have the burden of persuasion. Persuade me.
I am not being bitchy.
I am not being snarky.
Hell, I want to believe that this time will be different.
So show me your work. Show me what concrete evidence exists in support of your proposition.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (mf5HN)
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For now they are concentrating on trans kids being allowed in all bathrooms....you know, priorities but I have no doubt that what you wrote is definitely on the agenda.
Posted by: Cheri
Because the war on women is important........except for teenage women that don't want to share a bathroom with bob/bobbette.
For now they are concentrating on trans kids being allowed in all bathrooms....you know, priorities but I have no doubt that what you wrote is definitely on the agenda.
Posted by: Cheri
Because the war on women is important........except for teenage women that don't want to share a bathroom with bob/bobbette.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (Spluw)
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@293 Hell, they're not even Old-Timey!
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (xq1UY)
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262
"And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him."
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This
is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care
about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness
to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The
evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think
like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the
same incentives.
Accept reality.
==============
Hold the fuck on here!!
Are you even listening to yourself??
I just laid out the plan to destroy the Democrat Party--NOW--and you're all "nope, nope. Won't work--they don't care if they don't get re-elected."
And all the fucking time you're telling us "buck up, bitches! Vote for the R and in 2 years when we have the House, Senate and the Presidency it'll be conservative manna for everyone!!!!"
Newsflash, sugertits: I DO understand the Dems. I DO fucking know they will burn themselves on the pyre Obama---I am fucking trying to get them to do that!!!
And you're over there telling us "don't try to destroy the Dems--vote GOP (even if they're not interested in destroying the Dems)."
"And every fucking point he slides is another Democrat who can't afford to support him."
Nope. Nope. Nope. Wrong on every single count.
This
is a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. They don't care
about being re-elected. They have shown for 7 years a total willingness
to sacrifice each other for the goals of progressive government.
The
evidence is all around you. We are not dealing with people who think
like us. It is a mistake to assume they do, or that they respond to the
same incentives.
Accept reality.
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Hold the fuck on here!!
Are you even listening to yourself??
I just laid out the plan to destroy the Democrat Party--NOW--and you're all "nope, nope. Won't work--they don't care if they don't get re-elected."
And all the fucking time you're telling us "buck up, bitches! Vote for the R and in 2 years when we have the House, Senate and the Presidency it'll be conservative manna for everyone!!!!"
Newsflash, sugertits: I DO understand the Dems. I DO fucking know they will burn themselves on the pyre Obama---I am fucking trying to get them to do that!!!
And you're over there telling us "don't try to destroy the Dems--vote GOP (even if they're not interested in destroying the Dems)."
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2015 11:43 AM (ZvKdv)
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OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
And the next 3 ISS crews will be limping from stepping on Lego blocks lost in the airlock.
OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
And the next 3 ISS crews will be limping from stepping on Lego blocks lost in the airlock.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2015 11:44 AM (1QsMy)
341
326 OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Awesome! In fact, Everything is Awesome!
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Awesome! In fact, Everything is Awesome!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 02, 2015 11:44 AM (FGIR8)
342
Trumpetdaddy, the sycophancy is getting wearisome.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 02, 2015 11:44 AM (6JL3d)
343
McDonald's now offering all day breakfast. Matt Yglesias was jonesing for this for some time now, so he'll be happy. He's a big egg mcmuffin guy.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 02, 2015 11:44 AM (E5UB0)
344
BREAKING: Judge Barry Williams denied motion to dismiss the charges against six officers
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 11:45 AM (fWAjv)
345
Israel will strike no later than February 2017, no matter who is the next president.
I would bet money on that one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (St6BJ)
They should do it right now. I doubt anybody would be expecting it currently. Just get it over with.
I would bet money on that one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2015 11:25 AM (St6BJ)
They should do it right now. I doubt anybody would be expecting it currently. Just get it over with.
Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 11:45 AM (w1ewr)
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BREAKING: Judge Barry Williams denied motion to dismiss the charges against six officers
How did Peter and Bobby vote?
How did Peter and Bobby vote?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:45 AM (75uvI)
347
OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Tell me they were Star Wars ones.
Lie if you must.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Tell me they were Star Wars ones.
Lie if you must.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (mf5HN)
348
Borat is going into space.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (i23N/)
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (VAsIq)
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So after a quick Google it appears the TSA color guard dates to a few months after TFG took over in 2009. I'm not surprised.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 02, 2015 11:47 AM (S+N7W)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 11:47 AM (75uvI)
352
The Legos are custom made Astronauts.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:48 AM (i23N/)
353
The Legos are custom made Astronauts.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:48 AM (i23N/)
Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/9cQgQIMlwWw
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:48 AM (i23N/)
Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/9cQgQIMlwWw
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (mf5HN)
354
Whatever it takes to get a non-Democrat past the media and the LIVs
who is this non-democrat you speak of?, all I see is democrats and one libertarian.
who is this non-democrat you speak of?, all I see is democrats and one libertarian.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (ODxAs)
355
Tell me they were Star Wars ones.
Lie if you must.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (mf5HN)
Specially made for this mission.
*trots off to lunch*
Lie if you must.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (mf5HN)
Specially made for this mission.
*trots off to lunch*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (JtwS4)
356
Shame about NYC and DC.
Posted by: goatweed at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (8HrdX)
357
Here's how the President and SecState negotiate with Iran: Get taken to the cleaners, then turn to the people they were supposed to be representing and say, Oh come on! You wanted ___? You never were going to get that. Would you rather have this unthinkable alternative? No? Then you need to support me.
Here's how McConnell and Boehner negotiate with the President:
Well, you get the idea.
Here's how McConnell and Boehner negotiate with the President:
Well, you get the idea.
Posted by: JPS at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (DVIDX)
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BREAKING: Judge Barry Williams denied motion to dismiss the charges against six officers
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 11:45 AM (fWAjv)
Did you see a pic of the Judge? And your surprised?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 11:45 AM (fWAjv)
Did you see a pic of the Judge? And your surprised?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (gf8BH)
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This is why I laugh when I read the latest GOPe/National Review screed against Trump.
How the hell could he be worse than this? He may even do the right thing for America, by accident.
How the hell could he be worse than this? He may even do the right thing for America, by accident.
Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (44OyV)
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353 The Legos are custom made Astronauts.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:48 AM (i23N/)
Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/9cQgQIMlwWw
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (mf5HN)
Also: https://youtu.be/7TYJyCCO8Dc
Spaceship!!!!
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 02, 2015 11:48 AM (i23N/)
Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/9cQgQIMlwWw
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (mf5HN)
Also: https://youtu.be/7TYJyCCO8Dc
Spaceship!!!!
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (zt+N6)
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BARRY GLENN WILLIAMS, Associate Judge, Baltimore City Circuit Court, 8th Judicial Circuit, since December 5, 2005. Judge-in-charge, Criminal Division, January 2, 2012 to January 2, 2015. Member, Technology Oversight Board, 2007-14. Chair, Criminal Justice Coordinating Council, Baltimore City, 2012-14. Member, Judiciary Task Force on Pretrial Confinement and Release, 2013-14.
Special Litigation Counsel, Civil Rights Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 2002-05 (trial attorney, 1997-2002). Assistant State's Attorney, Baltimore City, 1989-97.
Born in Neptune, New Jersey, April 4, 1962. University of Virginia, B.A. (history), 1984; University of Maryland School of Law, J.D., 1987. Admitted to Maryland Bar, 1987; Pennsylvania Bar, 1987; District of Columbia Bar, 1990. Law clerk to Judge Arrie W. Davis, Baltimore City Circuit Court, 1987-88; Judge Robert M. Bell, Court of Special Appeals, 1988-89. Member, Maryland State Bar Association (judicial administration section). Meritorious Award, U.S. Department of Justice, 2004 (certificate of commendation, 1999; special achievement award, 1998, 2000; special commendation for outstanding service, civil rights division, 2001).
Special Litigation Counsel, Civil Rights Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 2002-05 (trial attorney, 1997-2002). Assistant State's Attorney, Baltimore City, 1989-97.
Born in Neptune, New Jersey, April 4, 1962. University of Virginia, B.A. (history), 1984; University of Maryland School of Law, J.D., 1987. Admitted to Maryland Bar, 1987; Pennsylvania Bar, 1987; District of Columbia Bar, 1990. Law clerk to Judge Arrie W. Davis, Baltimore City Circuit Court, 1987-88; Judge Robert M. Bell, Court of Special Appeals, 1988-89. Member, Maryland State Bar Association (judicial administration section). Meritorious Award, U.S. Department of Justice, 2004 (certificate of commendation, 1999; special achievement award, 1998, 2000; special commendation for outstanding service, civil rights division, 2001).
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:53 AM (gf8BH)
362
347
OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Tell me they were Star Wars ones.
Lie if you must.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (mf5HN)
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OT: The first Danish cosmonaut is on the ISS.
He brought 26 Lego figures with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 02, 2015 11:41 AM (JtwS4)
Tell me they were Star Wars ones.
Lie if you must.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:46 AM (mf5HN)
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Posted by: gwelf at September 02, 2015 11:53 AM (nyxv/)
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You stupid ingrates should be thanking me.
Posted by: Bob Corker at September 02, 2015 11:53 AM (44OyV)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:53 AM (mf5HN)
365
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 02, 2015 11:50 AM (mf5HN)
I will have that damn song in my head for three days now. The only thing worse is that damn song from Frozen.
Shit!
I will have that damn song in my head for three days now. The only thing worse is that damn song from Frozen.
Shit!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 02, 2015 11:53 AM (Wckf4)
366
Yaaaawwn... That was a good nap. It appears I've woken up thirsty.
Posted by: L. Tree at September 02, 2015 11:54 AM (zGIae)
367
I forget who made this point, but I will no longer castigate right-leaning moderates as RINOs: I'm the RINO now.
I support the GOP only insofar as they achieve goals that are important to me, and these days those are few and far between.
I support the GOP only insofar as they achieve goals that are important to me, and these days those are few and far between.
Posted by: JPS at September 02, 2015 11:55 AM (DVIDX)
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Did you see a pic of the Judge? And your surprised?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (gf8BH)
No I haven't.
*off to the internets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:52 AM (gf8BH)
No I haven't.
*off to the internets
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 11:55 AM (fWAjv)
369
Video: Kerry On Iran Deal Votes: They Would Have Attacked Us If We Didnt Do This
Weasel Zippers
Is he really that stupid?
Weasel Zippers
Is he really that stupid?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 11:56 AM (gf8BH)
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Burn the Witch, #365:
"I will have that damn song in my head for three days now. The only thing worse is that damn song from Frozen."
My kids are big fans of Frozen AND The Lego Movie. The first time I heard these songs I could not have imagined how many more times I was to hear them.
Anyway, I find Wilson Pickett drives them out pretty well. (The songs, not my kids.)
"I will have that damn song in my head for three days now. The only thing worse is that damn song from Frozen."
My kids are big fans of Frozen AND The Lego Movie. The first time I heard these songs I could not have imagined how many more times I was to hear them.
Anyway, I find Wilson Pickett drives them out pretty well. (The songs, not my kids.)
Posted by: JPS at September 02, 2015 11:57 AM (DVIDX)
371
Late to the party here, but we can't win votes if we don't make the case before the people of our cause.
In other words, if McConnell and the GOPe refuse to make the case that PP should be defunded, then OF COURSE they won't get the votes to defund PP. The Senate used to be known as a deliberative body because they debated stuff. Now they just count heads and throw up their hands because, "gee, we can't win on that issue."
McConnell and the GOPe should be showing the unedited versions of every single undercover PP video in the Senate to start this debate. That's what they'd do if they gave a sh!t if they were serious about doing something about this. (And if they gave a fig about what their constituents want.) Make the moral and legal case that the manner in which PP kills babies is immoral, unethical, and illegal. It's not hard; CMP has already given you the arguments and the proof, provided straight from the mouths of those engaged in the trafficking of human body parts.
They should be doing the same thing regarding the Iran deal. Show video of any given Friday services out of Iran where the leader and followers are shouting death to Israel and America. But no... we don't have the votes, so we're powerless to do anything but rubber stamp obama's will.
McConnell and the GOPe could put pressure on any repubs who won't go along with pushing an issue, whatever that issue is. Make them political poison. That's what the dems do; that's why the dems have virtually no moderates in their ranks any longer.
Oh, who am I kidding? The GOPe won't do any of this because they're all democrats in republican clothing. They exist merely to offer the pretense that we have an oppositional, two-party system.
In other words, if McConnell and the GOPe refuse to make the case that PP should be defunded, then OF COURSE they won't get the votes to defund PP. The Senate used to be known as a deliberative body because they debated stuff. Now they just count heads and throw up their hands because, "gee, we can't win on that issue."
McConnell and the GOPe should be showing the unedited versions of every single undercover PP video in the Senate to start this debate. That's what they'd do if they gave a sh!t if they were serious about doing something about this. (And if they gave a fig about what their constituents want.) Make the moral and legal case that the manner in which PP kills babies is immoral, unethical, and illegal. It's not hard; CMP has already given you the arguments and the proof, provided straight from the mouths of those engaged in the trafficking of human body parts.
They should be doing the same thing regarding the Iran deal. Show video of any given Friday services out of Iran where the leader and followers are shouting death to Israel and America. But no... we don't have the votes, so we're powerless to do anything but rubber stamp obama's will.
McConnell and the GOPe could put pressure on any repubs who won't go along with pushing an issue, whatever that issue is. Make them political poison. That's what the dems do; that's why the dems have virtually no moderates in their ranks any longer.
Oh, who am I kidding? The GOPe won't do any of this because they're all democrats in republican clothing. They exist merely to offer the pretense that we have an oppositional, two-party system.
Posted by: elaine at September 02, 2015 11:57 AM (Y0Piu)
372
My letter to Congressman Heck
Congressman Heck, It is with a broken heart I write you and tell you how truly disappointed I am at the GOP in Congress. If the GOP can not stop taxpayers from paying for babies being chopped up and sold for parts, If the GOP can not stop Iran from a nuclear bomb, then there are no hills, no causes, worth fighting for. I can no longer support you, or your run for Senate, nor can I support the GOP as a party that represents me or America.
Congressman Heck, It is with a broken heart I write you and tell you how truly disappointed I am at the GOP in Congress. If the GOP can not stop taxpayers from paying for babies being chopped up and sold for parts, If the GOP can not stop Iran from a nuclear bomb, then there are no hills, no causes, worth fighting for. I can no longer support you, or your run for Senate, nor can I support the GOP as a party that represents me or America.
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at September 02, 2015 11:58 AM (uJK1E)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 02, 2015 11:58 AM (fWAjv)
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elaine,
My theory at this point is that they don't want to really fight this because either they'll lose the fight or they'll win.
See, it's one thing to say publicly, there's no point, he's got the support he needs to make it stick.
It's another to wonder privately, What if we do block this thing, then they go nuclear (as they will sooner or later anyway), then we get the blame for blocking the deal that supposedly would have stopped them? Better to let them have this one, then run against them for it.
(Please, no one think I am endorsing this mentality. I would prefer to be wrong on this.)
My theory at this point is that they don't want to really fight this because either they'll lose the fight or they'll win.
See, it's one thing to say publicly, there's no point, he's got the support he needs to make it stick.
It's another to wonder privately, What if we do block this thing, then they go nuclear (as they will sooner or later anyway), then we get the blame for blocking the deal that supposedly would have stopped them? Better to let them have this one, then run against them for it.
(Please, no one think I am endorsing this mentality. I would prefer to be wrong on this.)
Posted by: JPS at September 02, 2015 12:00 PM (DVIDX)
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I didn't leave the republican party, they left me. I guess I'm just not smart enough to understand how shitting on the base helps win elections. If Trump or Cruz is not the nominee, the GOPe candidate gets even fewer votes, by 4 million+, than Romney got.
Look to Kalifornia to see how the entire USA will be ruled once the GOPe pushes amnesty through. And make no mistake about it, they will push amnesty through before November 2016.
Look to Kalifornia to see how the entire USA will be ruled once the GOPe pushes amnesty through. And make no mistake about it, they will push amnesty through before November 2016.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 02, 2015 12:00 PM (f+6Pd)
376
All this talk about political capital, I smell a Fundamental Concepts post in the making here.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, lettin' it burn since '12 at September 02, 2015 12:04 PM (9krrF)
377
It's not conservatives who are being short sighted...it's the GOPe who can't seem to think beyond the next election.
The GOPe is giving up easy layups in the hopes of nailing a three pointer at the buzzer. It's stupid.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (eytER)
THIS ^^^^^^^
The GOPe is giving up easy layups in the hopes of nailing a three pointer at the buzzer. It's stupid.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 02, 2015 11:39 AM (eytER)
THIS ^^^^^^^
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 02, 2015 12:08 PM (MIKMs)
378
Will no one offer me a drink?
Posted by: L. Tree at September 02, 2015 12:08 PM (zGIae)
379
Congratulations Senator Mark Warner of Virginia!
Your courageous inaction and indecisiveness on the Iran "deal" means that once again you can proclaim yourself as "blameless" in the matter.
However, you do still suck.
Your courageous inaction and indecisiveness on the Iran "deal" means that once again you can proclaim yourself as "blameless" in the matter.
However, you do still suck.
Posted by: spd rdr at September 02, 2015 12:11 PM (+fXXA)
380
So Ted Cruz was right - PP defunding should have been folded into that bill that only required 51 votes to pass.
McConnell sucks on so many levels. This Iran thing is just the latest outrage.
McConnell sucks on so many levels. This Iran thing is just the latest outrage.
Posted by: Marybeth at September 02, 2015 12:13 PM (AOhb8)
381
New GOP slogan
"WE will never do the things you want us to do. Vote for us, and we will do what we think is best for you, and will get us invited to all the best parties in D.C.."
"WE will never do the things you want us to do. Vote for us, and we will do what we think is best for you, and will get us invited to all the best parties in D.C.."
Posted by: Paladin at September 02, 2015 12:13 PM (4kpbt)
382
Brattleboro is proud of our Presdent of Color, So proud that he took this bold step to fix Bush's failures once again. Brattleboro loves you and wishes you could be Presdent for another four years.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 02, 2015 12:15 PM (lNSdJ)
383
It might take years, but if done correctly, replace the GOP altogether.
Then the GOP ruling class will begin to infiltrate the new party....
Then the GOP ruling class will begin to infiltrate the new party....
Posted by: Paladin at September 02, 2015 12:16 PM (4kpbt)
384
"Unfortunetaly I agree with you. Pass the Bottle of Bourbon please
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (gf8BH)"
Bourbon. Now there's a word this whole thread makes me think of. Time to take up knitting?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 02, 2015 10:46 AM (gf8BH)"
Bourbon. Now there's a word this whole thread makes me think of. Time to take up knitting?
Posted by: madame defarge at September 02, 2015 12:22 PM (KnC4k)
385
The big thing is if McConnell is saying the GOP can never get what it wants unless it has 60 votes, there's no point in voting for a GOP Senate candidate. There have never been 60 GOP Senators at the same time and you will never get 60 GOP votes in the Senate.
Incorrect. They had 61 after the 1906 election and 60 after the 1908 election, both were out of 92 total seats. Post 17th Amendment, the GOP got 59 our of 96 seats (proportionally higher than 60 our of 100) in 1920
Incorrect. They had 61 after the 1906 election and 60 after the 1908 election, both were out of 92 total seats. Post 17th Amendment, the GOP got 59 our of 96 seats (proportionally higher than 60 our of 100) in 1920
Posted by: The Electoral Hat at September 02, 2015 12:23 PM (0TXlm)
386
Then the GOP ruling class will begin to infiltrate the new party....
It's like I've always said, if people are the solution, it stands to reason they were also the problem.
It's like I've always said, if people are the solution, it stands to reason they were also the problem.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, lettin' it burn since '12 at September 02, 2015 12:23 PM (9krrF)
387
The GOP and their show votes are precisely why I no longer trust any establishment candidates. They win elections by saying that they will govern as conservatives, but once they are in office (see Marco Rubio) they betray the voters in favor of their donors.
Our democracy is broken. We have to figure out ways to ensure that it is more difficult to buy our politicians.
Our democracy is broken. We have to figure out ways to ensure that it is more difficult to buy our politicians.
Posted by: Michael Sebastian at September 02, 2015 12:23 PM (6JfRu)
388
Anyways, here's some nice gift ideas for the 'ettes, a couple of really neat Swiss craftsmanship clocks! Kinda pricey, though...
http://tinyurl.com/ozug9tj
http://tinyurl.com/ozug9tj
Posted by: Brother Cavil, lettin' it burn since '12 at September 02, 2015 12:24 PM (9krrF)
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Our democracy is broken. We have to figure out ways to ensure that it is more difficult to buy our politicians.
John Adams had some thoughts on that point. Largely to the effect that, well, the problem ain't the democracy, it's the people in it...
John Adams had some thoughts on that point. Largely to the effect that, well, the problem ain't the democracy, it's the people in it...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, lettin' it burn since '12 at September 02, 2015 12:25 PM (9krrF)
390
Re: Iran. Why doesn't McConnell call the Corker deal "null and void" given the fact that Obama violated terms of the deal (e.g. secret deals, bypassing Congress andapproaching the UN directly). Use the nuclear option, call it a treaty and get back to the standard of 2/3 approval for it to pass. Anyone listening?
Posted by: Bill S at September 02, 2015 12:26 PM (MgRM6)
391
Good lord, so they're not going to pass ANY bills that Obama might/will veto? What a bunch of spineless douchebags. "Hi, I'm the Republican establishment and I refuse to do anything my constitutents want me to do. Merry Fing Christmas."
Posted by: Mrs. Clinton's Snizz at September 02, 2015 12:29 PM (vDEpI)
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93 PASS A FUCKING BUDGET YOU MOTHERFUCKING PIECES OF RATSHIT OMFG I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU ARRRRGGHHH
I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
-alexthechick
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Yep, could not have said it better.
And I must admit, I am an old lady, and a coward, and I am afraid of what's coming.
I mean, gee, gosh, golly, darn this is unfortunate.
-alexthechick
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Yep, could not have said it better.
And I must admit, I am an old lady, and a coward, and I am afraid of what's coming.
Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at September 02, 2015 12:31 PM (0ISGt)
393
FUNQ, McConnell.
Posted by: the other coyote at September 02, 2015 12:33 PM (yK44T)
394
Corker set the stage. Schumer announced it with his symbolic "no" vote.
Mitch McConnell is beyond failure. He is a corrupt coward who will do nothing that jeopardizes his reign. Chamberlain looks like a lion compared to the white flag waving McConnell.
Mitch McConnell is beyond failure. He is a corrupt coward who will do nothing that jeopardizes his reign. Chamberlain looks like a lion compared to the white flag waving McConnell.
Posted by: gracepc at September 02, 2015 12:43 PM (DMQhB)
395
210 Confirmation of the death cult in America.
...
Sorry Mr. Franklin, we blew it.
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I've been saying that, too.
Told my DH the other day, "I never thought I'd see the death of my country and civilization during my lifetime."
Sucks.
...
Sorry Mr. Franklin, we blew it.
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I've been saying that, too.
Told my DH the other day, "I never thought I'd see the death of my country and civilization during my lifetime."
Sucks.
Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at September 02, 2015 12:52 PM (0ISGt)
396
238 Stocks to invest in the future?
...
Tim's Land Reclamation and Desalinization Services.
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There are fungi that actually take out petrochemicals and radioactive materials from soils. (True, I study permaculture.)
Just sayin'...y'all may want to look into it.
...
Tim's Land Reclamation and Desalinization Services.
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There are fungi that actually take out petrochemicals and radioactive materials from soils. (True, I study permaculture.)
Just sayin'...y'all may want to look into it.
Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at September 02, 2015 12:54 PM (0ISGt)
397
I hope they're the first hit with the incoming missiles and live just long enough to know why they're dying.
Posted by: Graham Cracker at September 02, 2015 12:56 PM (SJ184)
398
GOP is in power. CHANGE THE F....ING RULES! The Dems did under Reid!
Ever hear of the Nuclear Option on rule changes?????
Ever hear of the Nuclear Option on rule changes?????
Posted by: Graham Cracker at September 02, 2015 12:57 PM (SJ184)
399
We get the government we deserve.
Posted by: Tommy V at September 02, 2015 01:01 PM (SRQwr)
400
I saw the TSA Color Guard present the flag at a MLB baseball game this week, so I'm feeling pretty safe.
Posted by: USA
The TSA has a frickin' Color Guard?
Posted by: USA
The TSA has a frickin' Color Guard?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 01:16 PM (/Ho8c)
401
Will no one offer me a drink?
Posted by: L. Tree
Friendly warning to Persons of Vegetation: Discussing being thirsty has been known to lead to bannination.
Posted by: L. Tree
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Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 02, 2015 01:17 PM (/Ho8c)
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"This means the "resolution of disapproval" will fail so Obama won't even have to veto anything. It will just fade away in the Senate and that will be that."
Not correct. It means that they don't have a veto-proof majority. Obama would still need to veto the thing.
Not correct. It means that they don't have a veto-proof majority. Obama would still need to veto the thing.
Posted by: Dan at September 02, 2015 01:35 PM (I1YPs)
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Not the hill to die on, because we senators have emergency bunkers. Everyone else can die, though. Allah Akbar!
Posted by: McTurtle Retreating Into His Shell at September 02, 2015 01:35 PM (P6LxG)
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 02, 2015 01:40 PM (lsWof)
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Boy howdy that last mushroom over Tel Aviv was a real corker I'm tellin ya. Wooo-hoooo.
Posted by: Iduntoleya Kommiene at September 02, 2015 01:50 PM (LlcVl)
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There is an insane new form of polling out there:
"Poll shows majority wants Congress to approve Iran deal"
(The Hill)
"The poll was conducted online, and the participants went through an in-depth process of listening to arguments from both sides. People were subjected to a detailed list of critiques of the agreement, followed by rebuttals to those arguments with reasons to get behind the deal."
So basically, the "poll" consisted of persuading people at great length in favor of the deal first, and then polling them immediately after. Lovely. Is this the future of polling?
"Poll shows majority wants Congress to approve Iran deal"
(The Hill)
"The poll was conducted online, and the participants went through an in-depth process of listening to arguments from both sides. People were subjected to a detailed list of critiques of the agreement, followed by rebuttals to those arguments with reasons to get behind the deal."
So basically, the "poll" consisted of persuading people at great length in favor of the deal first, and then polling them immediately after. Lovely. Is this the future of polling?
Posted by: Dan at September 02, 2015 01:52 PM (I1YPs)
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Next we'll hear, "We need a Republican president in order to get things done."
Then after a Republican is elected, McConnell will whine there are too many mean Democrats in the Senate. "So wait til after the next election, I promise things will really start to get done then."
Then after a Republican is elected, McConnell will whine there are too many mean Democrats in the Senate. "So wait til after the next election, I promise things will really start to get done then."
Posted by: Abby Normal at September 02, 2015 02:01 PM (yVpo+)
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Blockade, Burn, and bulldoze that whole cesspool of a city, salt the ground and reroute the Potomac back over it.
Posted by: JoshO at September 02, 2015 02:13 PM (s79uE)
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#382, at least spell my name right, troll.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at September 02, 2015 02:30 PM (qj9hG)
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Obama is just better at this politics stuff than you losers
Posted by: Bob at September 02, 2015 05:55 PM (XiSQ4)
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"News Flash, if conservatives start sitting out elections, it's not going to teach anyone a lesson but ourselves."
I'd rather spend my money and time getting ready for Civil War 2. Voting straight Democrat will help that come faster.
I'd rather spend my money and time getting ready for Civil War 2. Voting straight Democrat will help that come faster.
Posted by: SDN at September 03, 2015 06:22 AM (OtK6l)
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