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Overnight Open Thread (9-1-2015)

Quote of the Day I

There are no rational means of predicting the 'future of humanity' over a long period or foretelling the nature of 'social formations' in ages to come. The idea that we can make such forecasts 'scientifically,' and that without doing so we cannot understand the past, is inherent in the Marxist theory of 'social formations;' it is one reason why the theory is a fantasy, and also why it is politically effective. The influence that Marxism has achieved, for from being the result or proof of its scientific character, is almost entirely due to its prophetic, fantastic, and irrational elements. Marxism is a doctrine of blind confidence that a paradise of universal satisfaction is awaiting us just around the corner. Almost all the prophecies of Marx and his followers have already proved to be false, but this does not disturb the spiritual certainty of the faithful, any more than it did in the case of chiliastic sects: for it is certainty not based on any empirical premises or supposed 'historical laws,' but simply on the psychological need for certainty. In this sense Marxism performs the function of a religion, and its efficacy is of a religious character. But it is a caricature and a bogus form of religion, since it presents its temporal eschatology as a scientific system, which religious mythologies do not purport to be. . .

At present Marxism neither interprets the world nor changes it: it is merely a repertoire of slogans serving to organize various interests, most of them completely remote from those which Marxism originally identified itself.

-- Leszek Kolakowski

Quote of the Day II

Monsters shall always be with us, but in earlier days they did not roam free. As a psychiatrist in Massachusetts in the 1970s, I committed people - often right out of the emergency room - as a danger to themselves or to others. I never did so lightly, but I labored under none of the crushing bureaucratic and legal constraints that make involuntary commitment infinitely more difficult today.

Why do you think we have so many homeless? Destitution? Poverty has declined since the 1950s. The majority of those sleeping on grates are mentally ill. In the name of civil liberties, we let them die with their rights on.

A tiny percentage of the mentally ill become mass killers. Just about everyone around Tucson shooter Jared Loughner sensed he was mentally ill and dangerous. But in effect, he had to kill before he could be put away - and (forcibly) treated.

Random mass killings were three times more common in the 2000s than in the 1980s, when gun laws were actually weaker. Yet a 2011 University of California at Berkeley study found that states with strong civil commitment laws have about a one-third lower homicide rate.

-- Charles Krauthammer in The roots of mass murder

Quote of the Day III

Last weekend, I camped with my family at a barn-raising party on the western foot of the Quantock hills, in Somerset. On Saturday I crept out of the tent at 5am, when the faintest skein of red cloud netted the sky. Below me, mist filled the valley floor. I slipped through the sagging fence at the top of the field and found myself in a steep, broad coomb, covered in bracken. I climbed for a while, as quietly as I could, until a frightful wail shattered my thoughts. I crouched and listened. I could see nothing on the dark hillside. It came again, from about 50 metres to my right, half-shriek, half-bleat, a wild, wrenching, desolate cry, a cry that the Earth might make in mourning for itself.

...Walking without a map, I reached the valley floor too soon and found myself on the main road. In some places there were no verges and I had to press myself into the hedge as cars passed. But on such early walks, almost regardless of where you are, there are rewards. Just as I was about to turn off the road, on to the track that would take me back to the barn, I found a squirrel hit by a car that must have just passed me, dead but still twitching. It was a male, one of this year's brood but fully grown. Blood seeped from a wound to the head.

I picked it up by its hind feet, and though I had played no part in its death, I was immediately gripped by a sensation so discrete, so distinct from all else we feel, that I believe it requires its own label: hunter's pride. It's the raw, feral thrill I have experienced only on the occasions when I have picked up a fresh dead animal I intend to eat. It feels to me like the opening of a hidden door, a rent in the mind through which you can glimpse a ghost psyche: vestigial emotional faculties that once helped us to survive.

-- The Guardian's George 'Moonbat' Monbiot expounding on the joys of his roadkill hunter-gatherer lifestyle

Quote of the Day IV - How Nature Says Do Not Touch Edition

"I'm 23, female, a lesbian, white, mentally ill,
visually impaired, a recent college graduate,
an atheist, very left-wing, from the U.S.,
and seeking to learn more every day."

gary-larsen223

Heh

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Can You Spot All That is #Problematic About This Poster?

consentbae2

Charles C. W. Cooke's Beautiful Rant Against Those Who Would Repeal the 2nd Amendment

Seriously, try it. Start the process. Stop whining about it on Twitter, and on HBO, and at the Daily Kos. Stop playing with some Thomas Jefferson quote you found on Google. Stop jumping on the news cycle and watching the retweets and viral shares rack up. Go out there and begin the movement in earnest. Don't fall back on excuses. Don't play cheap motte-and-bailey games. And don't pretend that you're okay with the Second Amendment in theory, but you're just appalled by the Heller decision. You're not. Heller recognized what was obvious to the amendment's drafters, to the people who debated it, and to the jurists of their era and beyond: That "right of the people" means "right of the people," as it does everywhere else in both the Bill of Rights and in the common law that preceded it. A Second Amendment without the supposedly pernicious Heller "interpretation" wouldn't be any impediment to regulation at all. It would be a dead letter. It would be an effective repeal. It would be the end of the right itself. In other words, it would be exactly what you want! Man up. Put together a plan, and take those words out of the Constitution.

...You're going to need a plan. A state-by-state, county-by-county, street-by-street, door-to door plan. A detailed roadmap to abolition that involves the military and the police and a whole host of informants - and, probably, a hell of a lot of blood, too. Sure, the ACLU won't like it, especially when you start going around poorer neighborhoods. Sure, there are probably between 20 and 30 million Americans who would rather fight a civil war than let you into their houses. Sure, there is no historical precedent in America for the mass confiscation of a commonly owned item - let alone one that was until recently constitutionally protected. Sure, it's slightly odd that you think that we can't deport 11 million people but we can search 123 million homes. But that's just the price we have to pay. Times have changed. It has to be done: For the children; for America; for the future. Hey hey, ho ho, the Second Amendment has to go. Let's do this thing. When do you get started?

Is The Koran Older Than Muhammad?

Carbon dating suggests maybe.

Scholars now believe that a copy Quran held by the Birmingham Library was actually written sometime between 568 AD and 645, while the Prophet Mohammad was believed to have been born in 570 AD and to have died in 632 AD. The copy of the widely used holy text held by the library is known for being one of the oldest in the world.

Scholars came to this conclusion after researchers carbon dated a small piece of parchment from the Islamic holy book. The carbon dating, which is considered to be extremely accurate, suggests that the Quran may have actually been written before Muhammad was alive, or during the early years of his childhood.

Gun Ownership Vs. Firearm Accidents, 1965-2013

Holy inverse correlation Batman.

gunownaccide

The Secret Playboy Mansion Tunnels That Led to the Hollywood Homes of Celebrity Casanovas

The editorial staff at Playboy.com recently revealed that they have discovered a bunch of dusty old blueprints, plans and photographs in an unfinished basement area of the Playboy Mansion, which unveil a network of underground tunnels that allegedly once linked Hefner's notorious bachelor's pad to the homes of "Mr. J. Nicholson," "Mr. W. Beatty," "Mr. K. Douglas" and "Mr. J. Caan" during the late 1970s and 80s.

...The clues to the story were hiding in the office archives all this time; polaroids dated to 1977 that showed a large excavation project at the residence. When editorial staff contacted the Mansion about the polaroids they had stumbled upon, the Mansion's current general manager responded "very matter-of-factly" and told the journalists "that's probably when they built the tunnels in the 70s."

A little dumbfounded, the editorial team promptly made their way over to the Playboy Mansion and were given access by mansion staff to a basement area where they pretty much went nuts over the treasure trove they found there; old photos, plans and blueprints, clearly indicating that these tunnels led specifically to the homes of Jack Nicholson, Kirk Douglas, James Caan and of course, Mr. Warren Beatty, who all lived nearby.
beattytunnel playboymansion11

FCC Introduces Rule to Ban Any Modification of WiFi Router Firmware By Users

Say goodbye to DD-WRT and all the other open source firmwares. You don't really control your own network devices anymore.

Note to Scorned Women: There Is No Car Paint Spellcheck

Man's Selfie Ends With Car in Tree, Friends in Hospital

Go West Young Mormon Man!

One of my web searches turned up a study from Trinity College's American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) on the demographics of Mormons. According to the ARIS study, there are now 150 Mormon women for every 100 Mormon men in the state of Utah - a 50 percent oversupply of women.

Kermie Apparently Found Himself a New, Younger, Svelter Pig

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The Yahoo group is for closers only.

Teh Tweet!

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:23 PM




Comments

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1 Hello.

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:25 PM (9uYwf)

2 Yay ONT woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:26 PM (OMXTD)

3 Somebody track down Anna Puma - I have some serious ass to kick...

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:26 PM (9uYwf)

4 a 50 percent oversupply of women.

You make it sound like a bad thing...

Posted by: t-bird at September 01, 2015 11:27 PM (FcR7P)

5 "I'm 23, female, a lesbian, white, mentally ill,
visually impaired, a recent college graduate,
an atheist, very left-wing, from the U.S.,
and seeking to learn more every day."

--------

Is she hot?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 11:27 PM (75uvI)

6 I am totally unsurprised that Monbiot felt a thrill of accomplishment from someone else's kill.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at September 01, 2015 11:28 PM (rHXGG)

7 Nice shoes, Jack.

Posted by: huerfano at September 01, 2015 11:29 PM (bynk/)

8 We find ourselves here again...my God!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 01, 2015 11:30 PM (R4vR0)

9 Great ONT!

Posted by: Sixkiller at September 01, 2015 11:30 PM (bfpzm)

10 a 50 percent oversupply of women.
--------------------
Is there even such a thing???
An oversupply of womew? WTF?

That's like too much beer or too many sammiches.
That kind of talk is just Cray Cray!

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:30 PM (9uYwf)

11 "The carbon dating, which is considered to be extremely accurate, suggests that the Quran may have actually been written before Muhammad was alive, or during the early years of his childhood."


I sense that the researchers looking at this are in serious danger of a "workplace accident" soon.

Posted by: Religion Of Peace at September 01, 2015 11:31 PM (xnAyb)

12 Little-Known Fact: Jack Nicholson was in a couple of episodes of The Andy Griffith Show in 1967, probably around the time that pic was taken.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 11:31 PM (75uvI)

13 No love on the ONT? I want my money back. Dammit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:31 PM (OMXTD)

14 "If the findings are proven true, it could rewrite early Islamic history and shed doubt on the "heavenly" origins of the holy text."

If we'll kill people over cartoons, just imagine what we'll do over this...

Posted by: Religion Of Peace! at September 01, 2015 11:32 PM (xnAyb)

15 Somebody track down Anna Puma - I have some serious ass to kick...
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:26 PM (9uYwf)

******

My money's on Anna.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (d3JSA)

16 10 a 50 percent oversupply of women.
--------------------
Is there even such a thing???
An oversupply of womew? WTF?

That's like too much beer or too many sammiches.
That kind of talk is just Cray Cray!
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:30 PM (9uYwf)

That is cray cray.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (OMXTD)

17 Ola, ONT....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (HBmIq)

18 What's up Chi? You wanna refund on the novel?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (l3vZN)

19 Krautster is perfectly fine with those monsters if they are here illegally.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (5zyvn)

20 Damn nice Maet. Thanks, love the quotes, but I don't eat tree rats. Just try to keep em off my tomatoes.

Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (ahBY0)

21 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (YJmuy)

22 That Krauthammer article is good -- but it's also three years old.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (PrGts)

23 No love on the ONT?

There's beer...same thing, right?

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (rHXGG)

24 " The Guardian's George 'Moonbat' Monbiot" was writing parody, right? Sarcastic mockery of southern redneck hillbillies, right? And mocking hunters in general because any civilized person knows you get your beef tartare at only the finest french restaurants.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 01, 2015 11:36 PM (bLCMu)

25 Maria Sharapova ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638740686565703680

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638740883714781184

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638741085313978368

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638741279862620160

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638741439007072256

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/638741572490784769

Posted by: kbdabear at September 01, 2015 11:36 PM (GrXXa)

26 10 a 50 percent oversupply of women.

You know maybe we were a little quick to judge that Brigham Young fellow's marryin' practices...

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 01, 2015 11:36 PM (pAlYe)

27 So it's not shut your hore mouth?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:37 PM (OMXTD)

28 I bow out, I bow out. Night, all...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 01, 2015 11:37 PM (HBmIq)

29 I'm really loving G that pic at the bottom of the post. Honestly, he looks a lot like Dad in 1976.
God Bless You, Jack.

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:37 PM (9uYwf)

30 I thought that was a pic of the remodeled Ms Piggy: tanned, trimmed, liposuctioned, facelifted, botoxed and ready for duty.

Or maybe that is John Kerry who is all that.

Hey guys! Botox might be good for those of you that don't like Crinkly bacon.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 01, 2015 11:37 PM (3pRHP)

31 On the Koran dating thing....

One of the interesting things is there are no historic records of Moh.... and given his 'story', there should be.

Thus you have both the 'you can't question the Koran' AND the you can't have pictures of Moh... or we'll kill you...

Robert Spencer wrote an entire book about it... which is why he is no longer welcome on any major media outlet.

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 01, 2015 11:37 PM (qh617)

32 So.

Where's Happy Fun Ball?

Pursuing Buzzion into the grave?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:38 PM (x3GpS)

33 That Krauthammer article is good -- but it's also three years old.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (PrGts)

*****

We aren't going to have any content at all if people keep noticing annoying little details like this.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 01, 2015 11:39 PM (d3JSA)

34
16 10 a 50 percent oversupply of women.
--------------------
Is there even such a thing???
An oversupply of womew? WTF?

That's like too much beer or too many sammiches.
That kind of talk is just Cray Cray!
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:30 PM (9uYwf)

That is cray cray.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:33 PM (OMXTD)


I bet to differ.... a 50% oversupply of women could include Mother in Laws...

Posted by: BB Wolf at September 01, 2015 11:39 PM (qh617)

35 "Thus you have both the 'you can't question the Koran' AND the you can't have pictures of Moh... or we'll kill you...

Robert Spencer wrote an entire book about it... which is why he is no longer welcome on any major media outlet."

Seriously - if these researchers aren't being guarded by heavily armed ex-military people, bad things are going to happen to them.

Posted by: Religion Of Peace! at September 01, 2015 11:40 PM (xnAyb)

36 7
Nice shoes, Jack.


Posted by: huerfano at September 01, 2015 11:29 PM (bynk/)

Got 'em from Pat Boone.

Posted by: BignJames at September 01, 2015 11:41 PM (j7iSn)

37 " The Guardian's George 'Moonbat' Monbiot" was writing parody, right?

He butchered a squirrel on live TV with a giant novelty axe.
http://is.gd/4tFAnF

Squirrel butchering is one thing, but that axe? That's not a healthy man.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at September 01, 2015 11:42 PM (rHXGG)

38 I bet to differ.... a 50% oversupply of women could include Mother in Laws...

Always gotta be someone to come along and fcuk up my imagination.

Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:42 PM (ahBY0)

39 33 That Krauthammer article is good -- but it's also three years old.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (PrGts)


Just wait until you check the date on the article the first quote is from.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 01, 2015 11:43 PM (pAlYe)

40 People used to re-use paper and parchment. Is that Koran older than Muhammad, or is it written on paper that's older than Muhammad? It's an important difference.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (PrGts)

41 The bloom is off the rose with Krauthammer.

I've relegated him to the DGASWHS category.

But what can you expect from Mondale's speechwriter.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (WVvzl)

42 Lt Joe Gliniewicz, the cop killed by thugs today in Fox Lake IL was set to retire, agreed to stay on one more month due to manpower shortage. He was also the father of 4 boys

The manhunt is still on, I hope they blow away the scum who killed him.

Suspects supposedly two white males and one black male. I wonder if it's 2 radical lefty whites and a black from the #BlackLivesMatter terrorist organization

Posted by: kbdabear at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (GrXXa)

43 Wow, this ONT seems dead. Anyone want to pick-up the WWII discussion from the last thread.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (8zCR+)

44 Visually impaired?

Hot damn. I have found my special snowflake disability.

Guys, you don't know how hard it is to wake up in the morning and fumble around for your glasses. It's like so oppressive. The world is not designed for the legally blind. I demand you all pay me money and reorganize your businesses to better serve the bottle cap glasses wearing members of society.

Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 11:45 PM (LzzEz)

45 "Is The Koran Older Than Muhammad?

Carbon dating suggests yes."

Not really. That's just people being stupid. The range for the carbon dating includes Mo's entire lifespan +13 years. They are relying on the imprecision of their measurement to sensationalize their claim.

Posted by: JSchuler at September 01, 2015 11:45 PM (6i4P9)

46 clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang clang

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 01, 2015 11:45 PM (CrYC8)

47 That time frame for the Koran doesn't really prove squat.

Still within range of having been produced my Mo.

I see this as just click bait by some over eager as that carbon dating doesn't suggest anything of the sort that's claimed.

They must be lanquishing over at digitaljournal.com.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:45 PM (x3GpS)

48 50%? Nah. If you remember Dr. Strangelove, they scientifically calculated the optimum ratio was about 10:1, you know, for the bunkers. It was gonna be a dirty job, repopulating the earth, but Gen. Buck Turgidson and the boys were gonna rise to the occasion and do it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 01, 2015 11:45 PM (dvuhZ)

49 People used to re-use paper and parchment.

Even today in Venezuela.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 01, 2015 11:46 PM (W5DcG)

50
It's a KLH Model 15 ( I think... maybe) bitches.

A nice piece of gear at the time.

Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at September 01, 2015 11:46 PM (9mTYi)

51 43 Wow, this ONT seems dead. Anyone want to pick-up the WWII discussion from the last thread.
Posted by: cm9000 at September 01, 2015

Been reading the links. Maet is too good to us.,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:46 PM (OMXTD)

52 Evening horde.

One year ago today I stuck my dick in crazy.

Not recommended.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:47 PM (9jeGC)

53 Yeah. I've never seen a history-science-archaeology documentary ever claim dating within years. They're usually lucky for decades.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:47 PM (pgzyN)

54 They are relying on the imprecision of their measurement to sensationalize their claim.
Posted by: JSchuler
---------------

See: Global Warming
Also: Sea rise

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (9mTYi)

55 People used to re-use paper and parchment.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (PrGts)

You don't say. There are some old parchments here I'd like to erase and write over.

Posted by: Obama at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (5zyvn)

56 Lt Joe Gliniewicz, the cop killed by thugs today in Fox Lake IL

I think they got one of the pricks. Big time Feds looking for the other 2. Roads closed off.

Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (ahBY0)

57 jc, if you're out there anywhere, you've been on my mind lately. Hope all is well.

Posted by: Tammy at September 01, 2015 11:49 PM (in4mh)

58 An interesting audio round-table about the recent Hugo Awards business, hosted by the Honey Badgers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dp0I9VOYSk

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:49 PM (PrGts)

59 18 What's up Chi? You wanna refund on the novel?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat
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She implanted an ear bug some time around 6 AM .
Imagine going through life with Jefferson Airplane in your head all day.
I'm hoping that she wears Kevlar on a nightly basis...

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:50 PM (9uYwf)

60 Go ask Alice, Chi, when she's 10 feet tall.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:51 PM (pgzyN)

61 56 Lt Joe Gliniewicz, the cop killed by thugs today in Fox Lake IL

I think they got one of the pricks. Big time Feds looking for the other 2. Roads closed off.
Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (ahBY0

When did you hear that they got one? I know CNN was reporting it about 4pm EST but haven't heard anything else about it.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:51 PM (9jeGC)

62 Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:51 PM (pgzyN)

That's cruel

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:52 PM (9jeGC)

63 Don't worry, Chi, your friends here don't think you're a mess with tears running down your dress.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:52 PM (pgzyN)

64 Posted by: Kreplach at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (WVvzl)

You need to explain that sparky as google's never heard of it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (x3GpS)

65 When did you hear that they got one? I know CNN was reporting it about 4pm EST but haven't heard anything else about it.

WLS AM Chicago

Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (ahBY0)

66 Cruel but fair, RWC.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (pgzyN)

67 Been reading the links. Maet is too good to us.,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Yeah - that is some great content up there, huh? Maet is a real mensch.

Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (9uYwf)

68 Somebody (paging Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump to the white courtesy phone) needs to make the liberals OWN these murders of policemen.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (PrGts)

69 "we let them die with their rights on."

I have friends who lost a mentally ill son to the street. Could never get him committed long enough to do any good. Any time we hear of another homeless guy being killed, we say, "There's another one, enjoying his civil rights. Thanks, ACLU."

Posted by: PJ at September 01, 2015 11:54 PM (cHuNI)

70 Bitter - Don't Give A Shit What He Said

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 01, 2015 11:54 PM (9mTYi)

71 Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (ahBY0)

don't use that as a descriptor.

A prick is the best part of a man.

Well the most fun best part.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:54 PM (x3GpS)

72 Straightness is just a Social Construct

Apparently being straight has nothing to do with being heterosexual or not. Straightness has been redefined to be a system of White/Middle Class oppression of everyone else.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=9792

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 01, 2015 11:54 PM (0TXlm)

73 Suspects supposedly two white males and one black male. I wonder if it's 2 radical lefty whites and a black from the #BlackLivesMatter terrorist organization

Posted by: kbdabear at September 01, 2015 11:44 PM (GrXXa)





It's probably Toure', Shaun King, and Wesley Snipes.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (nL0sw)

74 Is The Koran Older Than Muhammad?
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Islam is clearly derivative of Christianity, Judaism, and Arabic tribal religion so that isn't so surprising - all three were in Mecca and Medina before Muhammed.

But this does color Muhammed's early wars of conquest in a different light. Is it possible the Meccans he massacred were actually the first Muslims?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (5LOno)

75 66 Cruel but fair, RWC

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:53 PM (pgzyN)

All's fair in horde and ear worms.


Mentioned it and some other's watched'/watching it but Narcos is damn good.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (9jeGC)

76 Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 11:50 PM (9uYwf)

Ear bug JA? Or Bee Gees?,choose wisely

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (OMXTD)

77 Somebody (paging Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump to the white courtesy phone) needs to make the liberals OWN these murders of policemen.

Has anyone asked the heads of the police unions what they think of Obama and co stirring up people to murder their union members?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (5LOno)

78 Is Narcos the name of a new TV series that you're enjoying?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (pgzyN)

79 Thanks MH

I started checking up on all the so called conservative pundits last year or so.

Amazing the amount of political writers for Democrats at one point showed up.

I had to start carrying around salt blocks to supply the grains of I needed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (x3GpS)

80 Mis Hum,

What's wrong with the Bee Gees?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (zyIlW)

81 Heard on the news today that representatives from the Mideast are meeting with Putin to decide what to do about Syria.

Know who's not involved? The U.S.

Obama has made us geopolitically irrelevant.

Won't the world be a nicer place when Russia and China are the new hegemons?

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (PrGts)

82 Between the President letting crack dealers out of prison early because of fairness, and his people waging war on cops, well, I got a bad feeling about this.

I'm just afraid this will continue until Obama gets the gun control laws he wants so he can disarm the 300 million people who don't kill cops.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (bLCMu)

83 But this does color Muhammed's early wars of conquest in a different light. Is it possible the Meccans he massacred were actually the first Muslims?

-------

If so, it would have been the start of a grand islamic tradition.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 11:57 PM (75uvI)

84 What do Jamaican gardeners have to do with Russia and China?

Posted by: joey biden at September 01, 2015 11:58 PM (pgzyN)

85 Mis Hum,

What's wrong with the Bee Gees?
Posted by: SMFH
-------------------

Okay, kids...., remember, Collegiality

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 01, 2015 11:58 PM (9mTYi)

86 My biggest douche faux conservative pundits list is

George Will
Charles Krauthammer
Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)
Bill O'Really
And anyone who said or says Trump's finished now or soon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:58 PM (x3GpS)

87 The paper *Might* be 3 years older than Moh, and is at least 12 years earlier than his death? Well whoop de do. Is he supposed to have written the Kooksran in the last 12 years of his life? Its an evil death cult but with that big whopping window on the dating it seems like they've got a big nothing burger.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 01, 2015 11:59 PM (dkExz)

88 It's probably Toure', Shaun King, and Wesley Snipes.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (nL0sw)

Or the militant black Deray McKesson.

*sorry, those pics of him with all his white prep buddies make me laugh. Especially how he tries to look all militant in his Twitter pic.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:59 PM (9jeGC)

89 Wiki says;

Muslims believe the Quran was verbally revealed by God to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel (Jibril),[4][5] gradually over a period of approximately 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE,[6] when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632, the year of his death.

Which would indicate that only the last 13 years in the 568 to 645 time estimate

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2015 11:59 PM (5LOno)

90 Posted by: dartist at September 01, 2015 11:48 PM (ahBY0)

don't use that as a descriptor.

A prick is the best part of a man.

Well the most fun best part.

Well, I thought Jagoff would be a bit strong, sorry. It's a much under used word IMHO.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:00 AM (ahBY0)

91 I swear she was nine, officer!

Posted by: Muhammad at September 02, 2015 12:00 AM (FcR7P)

92 80 Mis Hum,

What's wrong with the Bee Gees?
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (zyIlW)

Disco is not my cup of tea.

We could sub Yoko Ono for Chi's never ending loop of Grace Slick & Jefferson Airplane.
------------
See Mr. Hammer I'm a nice guy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:01 AM (OMXTD)

93 A hegemon is a Jamaican gardener, isn't it?

Posted by: joey biden at September 02, 2015 12:01 AM (pgzyN)

94 "That Krauthammer article is good -- but it's also three years old.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:35 PM (PrGts)"


Dude!, sshhhhhhhh!!, Maets like right there, do you really really want a 3 day long Yoko Ono retrospective???

Posted by: Bob in Houston at September 02, 2015 12:02 AM (b7AU3)

95 My goodness.
You're lucky that I love you...

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:02 AM (9uYwf)

96 Has anyone asked the heads of the police unions what
they think of Obama and co stirring up people to murder their union
members?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (5LOno)


In my experience with unions, they consider it a wonderful tool for extracting greater concessions and wages and benefits from the various municipalities and authorities.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 02, 2015 12:02 AM (3pRHP)

97 It's probably Toure', Shaun King, and Wesley Snipes.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (nL0sw)

Or the militant black Deray McKesson.

*sorry, those pics of him with all his white prep buddies make me laugh. Especially how he tries to look all militant in his Twitter pic.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:59 PM (9jeGC)




Good point. So maybe: DeRay, Shaun King, and Vanilla Ice?

Posted by: Country Singer at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (nL0sw)

98 I see the Frisky folks are pretending that Mattress Liar is credible and not a mendacious crazy witch.

And with (presumably) a straight face, the silly author of the post said that the concerns about "appropriating" the word "bae" (seriously? ) are valid.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (mBYZv)

99 through the angel ... Jibril

See?

Posted by: Richard Gere at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (FcR7P)

100 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (W5DcG)

101 Ya, Krauthammer wrote a good bunch of words there, but what else has he written, lately?

I don't trust any of'm any more. They write one good thing just to hook you in, and then they feed you a bunch of crap.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 12:04 AM (bLCMu)

102 My biggest douche faux conservative pundits list is

George Will
Charles Krauthammer
Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)
Bill O'Really
And anyone who said or says Trump's finished now or soon.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 01, 2015 11:58 PM (x3GpS)


Mark Levin a faux conservative? Not sure where you are coming from.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 02, 2015 12:04 AM (8zCR+)

103 I see Narcos has an IMDB listing. Although I don't know that I could watch a series with incorrect firearms and airplanes...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2707408/trivia?tab=gf&ref_=tt_trv_gf

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:04 AM (pgzyN)

104 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.

Me either. Have you never heard him on a rant?

Posted by: Infidel at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (6hxg7)

105 Disco is not my cup of tea. We could sub Yoko Ono for Chi's never ending loop of Grace Slick Jefferson Airplane. ------------ See Mr. Hammer I'm a nice guy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:01 AM

There's two completely different Bee Gee's. The pre disco, 60's to 70's pop Bee Gees are pretty damn good. Some excellent pop tunes. Then they snorted way too much disco and you get Saturday Night Fever and *shudder* Spirits having Flown.

Posted by: otho at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (d8udV)

106 81 Heard on the news today that representatives from the Mideast are meeting with Putin to decide what to do about Syria.

Know who's not involved? The U.S.

Obama has made us geopolitically irrelevant.

Won't the world be a nicer place when Russia and China are the new hegemons?
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (PrGts)

The Russians are going to putting thousands of military personnel in Syria over the next few weeks.

http://tinyurl.com/qe27ym9

The "fun" begins when Russian jets start encountering "incidents" with either USAF or IDF planes.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (wZ2hu)

107 What is all this about proudly declaring oneself to be mentally ill? I have a pretty obvious physical deformity but I don't feel the need to advertise it all over the place.

Well, I guess it's providing fair warning, do not touch, as Maet said.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (mBYZv)

108 87
The paper *Might* be 3 years older than Moh, and is at least 12 years
earlier than his death? Well whoop de do. Is he supposed to have
written the Kooksran in the last 12 years of his life? Its an evil
death cult but with that big whopping window on the dating it seems like
they've got a big nothing burger.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 01, 2015 11:59 PM (dkExz)

Mo was supposedly illiterate......he dictated.

Posted by: BignJames at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (j7iSn)

109 100 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (W5DcG)

Get off the phone you big dope doesn't come across as touchy-feely. Besides I don't think TFG invited him to the "conservative" dinner

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (OMXTD)

110 Levin? Really. How is he too touchy feely?

And I loathe that shit Rove.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (9jeGC)

111 Bae is a Viet Namese sammich, isn't it?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (3pRHP)

112 And the queersan dating is even bigger window, extending to as much as 12 years after Mohdoh died. What would we do w/o J-schools and their graduates.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 02, 2015 12:07 AM (dkExz)

113 Maybe he means Medved, not Levin.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:07 AM (mBYZv)

114 "The Russians are going to putting thousands of military personnel in Syria over the next few weeks. "

Well, that's good because, apparently, the Islamic State forces are in Damascus. How much longer can the chinless eye doctor hold a country together when his primary city falls to the invaders?

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 12:07 AM (bLCMu)

115 Heard on the news today that representatives from the Mideast are meeting with Putin to decide what to do about Syria.
Know who's not involved? The U.S.
Obama has made us geopolitically irrelevant.


They promised Obama that he could rename a Syrian mountain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:07 AM (W5DcG)

116 I see the Frisky folks are pretending that Mattress Liar is credible and not a mendacious crazy witch.

And with (presumably) a straight face, the silly author of the post said that the concerns about "appropriating" the word "bae" (seriously? ) are valid.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick)

They seriously quote Jezebel. Everybody who read that article lost IQ points.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 02, 2015 12:08 AM (awspb)

117 113 Maybe he means Medved, not Levin.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:07 AM (mBYZv)


Forget it - he's rolling.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 02, 2015 12:08 AM (pAlYe)

118 We could sub Yoko Ono for Chi's never ending loop of Grace Slick & Jefferson Airplane.
----------------------
I am not opposed to tracking a dude down...

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:08 AM (9uYwf)

119 I think Levin's and his foundations lawsuits had the most impact against TFG. Not a faux conservative.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:09 AM (9jeGC)

120 Maybe he means Medved, not Levin.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick)


That would make more sense.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:09 AM (W5DcG)

121 Posted by: otho at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (d8udV)

Didn't care for the ballad bee gees either. How do you mend a broken heart? As Zappa said, broken hearts are for a$$holes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:09 AM (OMXTD)

122 Chi,

at least its not the theme from I dream of Genie or gilligan's island.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at September 02, 2015 12:10 AM (b7AU3)

123
[power up external drive]
[launch iTunes]
[play White Rabbit]

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 12:10 AM (bLCMu)

124 Being sane is vastly overrated. Everyone has at least a few crazy ideas.

Rationality, on the other hand, is in short supply.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2015 12:10 AM (gyKtp)

125 What's wrong with the Bee Gees?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 01, 2015 11:56 PM (zyIlW)

MisHum is cool even though he sits on big chunks of ice with a hole in it trying to catch a fish. There's only one left right?

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:11 AM (ahBY0)

126 If you get a chance, watch Colin Quinn: Unconstitutional. Of course I don't agree with several of his points, but someone involved with this has done more research into the founding of this nation than all of the MFM put together. Some of the smartest political standup I've ever seen. Jerry Seinfeld was somehow involved in producing it. I'm really at a loss for how this came about.

Posted by: irright at September 02, 2015 12:11 AM (DtNNC)

127
103 I see Narcos has an IMDB listing. Although I don't know that I could watch a series with incorrect firearms and airplanes...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2707408/trivia?tab=gf&ref_=tt_trv_gf


Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:04 AM (pgzyN)

LOL. I've been biting my tongue in regards to the firearms.

Wait, what? That wasn't....

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:11 AM (9jeGC)

128 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:03 AM (W5DcG)

******

Unless "touchy feely" now means "spittle flecked and hyperventilating" now, I would tend to agree. I like the guy, but....just....no.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 12:12 AM (d3JSA)

129 I read a conservative commenter at Blazing Cat Fur say something against Levin too that I couldn't understand from the pro-Levin comments I've seen elsewhere. (I've never seen him so I don't have an opinion myself.)

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:12 AM (pgzyN)

130 I am feminist! Hear me whine!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:12 AM (mBYZv)

131 signing off. Take care good folks.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (dkExz)

132 I am not opposed to tracking a dude down...
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:08 AM

Bring Tucker with you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (OMXTD)

133 107 What is all this about proudly declaring oneself to be mentally ill? I have a pretty obvious physical deformity but I don't feel the need to advertise it all over the place.

Well, I guess it's providing fair warning, do not touch, as Maet said.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:06 AM (mBYZv)

Ooooh, you gotta furry hump like Laura W?

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (+YMhA)

134 Yeah, RWC, and those aren't really Uzis they've got either!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (pgzyN)

135 Officially my b-day...yet I see no presents.

I see something glowing in the corner....

Hmmmm....

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM (9jeGC)

136 Didn't care for the ballad bee gees either. How do you mend a broken heart? As Zappa said, broken hearts are for a$$holes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:09 AM

Yeah, that one's not a fave. But they did Spicks and Specks, Massachusetts, Lonely Day, Lonely Nights... To Love Somebody etc. I appreciate well crafted pop and their early stuff was well done. Then they teamed up with Frampton and did "Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

Posted by: otho at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM (d8udV)

137 I thought Ace was Laura W's furry hump?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM (pgzyN)

138 I see something glowing in the corner....


If the glow is blue, you might not want to get too close.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM (YJmuy)

139 Ooooh, you gotta furry hump like Laura W?
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (+YMhA)

No, sexier than that.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:15 AM (mBYZv)

140 134 Yeah, RWC, and those aren't really Uzis they've got either!
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:13 AM (pgzyN

That's one that i really bit my tongue.

That's an UZI???

That looks bad-ass!

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:15 AM (9jeGC)

141 If you gotta furry hump, well, OK.

Yiff if you gotta.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 02, 2015 12:16 AM (3pRHP)

142
Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:11 AM (ahBY0)

When life hands you ice, you fish

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:16 AM (OMXTD)

143 don't use that as a descriptor.

A prick is the best part of a man.

Well the most fun best part.

Well, I thought Jagoff would be a bit strong, sorry. It's a much under used word IMHO.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:00 AM (ahBY0)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9PiqCeLEmM

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 02, 2015 12:16 AM (0TXlm)

144 Or was that furries hump?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:16 AM (pgzyN)

145 Hey chique!

Guess who's gonna be here in CenTex in 17 days?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 02, 2015 12:16 AM (zyIlW)

146 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.

Me either. Have you never heard him on a rant?

Posted by: Infidel at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (6hxg7)


I dislike Levin. He is a screechy blowhard who acts like an ass.

Posted by: Radio Hat at September 02, 2015 12:18 AM (0TXlm)

147 Hey chique!

Guess who's gonna be here in CenTex in 17 days?
Posted by: SMFH at it all

Yay! Finally! I'm sure you both can't wait.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 02, 2015 12:18 AM (mBYZv)

148 That's all for me tonight. See you tomorrow.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2015 12:18 AM (pgzyN)

149 RWC. Shots are on me tonight.

Happy Birthday, brother...

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:19 AM (9uYwf)

150 I am not opposed to tracking a dude down...

Fair warning chi, them boys drinks a bit up nort. IIRC MisHum doesn't drink, so do you guys mind if I buy you both a drink?

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:19 AM (ahBY0)

151 when life hands you ice you could do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMATekiRUs

Posted by: Kindltot at September 02, 2015 12:19 AM (3pRHP)

152 Posted by: otho at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM (d8udV)

I'm not a fan but they were a successful pop group. I'm not really a pop music kind of guy.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:20 AM (OMXTD)

153 Spicks and Specks... Massachusetts... Lonely Days, Lonely Nights... To Love Somebody... Run to Me...

Most pop/rock bands would kill to produce those tunes. Then they did shit like "Tragedy". That there sums it up for the Bee Gees.

Posted by: otho at September 02, 2015 12:20 AM (d8udV)

154 Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA

Happy birthday. Your present's in the mail.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 02, 2015 12:21 AM (awspb)

155 *peeks in*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:21 AM (0AxXh)

156 Watching the "Why We Fight." Frank Capra docs on TCM. First five episodes, I believe.

Boy, everyone was in love with the Soviets, ..... then.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 02, 2015 12:21 AM (yMVjf)

157 When life hands you ice, you fish
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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You northerners are a weird fucking bunch.

Down here, we just pour a bourbon when God gives us ice.

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:22 AM (9uYwf)

158
149 RWC. Shots are on me tonight.

Happy Birthday, brother...
Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:19 AM (9uYwf)

Muchos gracias.

Seriously, thank you and thanks to the late night horde these past couple weeks. Sorry, you insane folks keep me level headed

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:22 AM (9jeGC)

159 Boy, everyone was in love with the Soviets, ..... then.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain

Was?!

Posted by: DNC and MFM at September 02, 2015 12:23 AM (awspb)

160 156 Watching the "Why We Fight." Frank Capra docs on TCM. First five episodes, I believe.

Boy, everyone was in love with the Soviets, ..... then.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 02, 2015 12:21 AM (yMVjf)

If only Stalin had access to computers...

Posted by: Slate (Salon?) Pitches at September 02, 2015 12:23 AM (wZ2hu)

161 Posted by: Kindltot at September 02, 2015 12:19 AM (3pRHP

I had seen that about 3 weeks ago, pretty funny. When lakes are frozen over about 4-5 months of the year you do what you have to do

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:24 AM (OMXTD)

162 155 *peeks in*
Posted by: Anna Puma
--------------------------
Squints, and growls in my best otherkins voice...

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:24 AM (9uYwf)

163 If only Stalin had access to computers...
Posted by: Slate (Salon?) Pitches


New Republic

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 02, 2015 12:25 AM (W5DcG)

164 If only Stalin had access to computers...
Posted by: Slate (Salon?) Pitches

We gave Stalin an iMac, and you'll never believe what happens next.

Posted by: Buzzfeed at September 02, 2015 12:25 AM (awspb)

165 *blink blinks*

Geez Chi, what's the burr under your saddle blanket?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:25 AM (0AxXh)

166 " When lakes are frozen over about 4-5 months of the year..."

You get a gas powered ice auger, put chains on the atv, and pull the shanty out on the lake so you can sit inside where it's warm while you fish.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 12:26 AM (bLCMu)

167 I still can't get that song out of my head.
I swear. Even worse, "want somebody to love" is there, too...

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:28 AM (9uYwf)

168 Well 98ZJUSMC, those films were aimed at educating Americans on the evils of the Axis powers. So the Allies got a pass, doubt seriously the War Department wanted to talk about John Bull either.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:28 AM (0AxXh)

169 You get a gas powered ice auger, put chains on the atv, and pull the
shanty out on the lake so you can sit inside where it's warm while you
fish.


Chris, what do you think?

https://youtu.be/nOeYFcfJLS0 (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 02, 2015 12:29 AM (YJmuy)

170 I like the threads that commemorate dates of battles from WW2. They're leaving this world in greater numbers each year. My Dad is 91 and I know I repeat myself, but I worry about what kids think with this (jaggoff) 2 g's or one, in office.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:30 AM (ahBY0)

171 Freaky A.I. Android Tells Reporter He'll Keep Him In "A People Zoo"

http://tinyurl.com/nbwz7sq

Posted by: Mr. Roboto at September 02, 2015 12:30 AM (0TXlm)

172 154 Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA

Happy birthday. Your present's in the mail.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 02, 2015 12:21 AM (awspb)

Thanks.

*pays a local kid 5 bucks to retrieve and open it

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:31 AM (9jeGC)

173 California's Katrina Is Coming

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/213534/

A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NaQZojWi6U

Posted by: The Levee Hat at September 02, 2015 12:32 AM (0TXlm)

174 Posted by: Amos Grossback at September 02, 2015 12:26 AM (bLCMu)

You got it brother. Jig poles, tip ups and a bucket of minnows

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:32 AM (OMXTD)

175 For Chi, non Jefferson Airplane

https://youtu.be/Qyq6EZS0rFA

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:33 AM (0AxXh)

176 Howdy, beloved Horde!

I'm going to have to adopt a rowdier lifestyle so I can stay up late enough for the ONT. This is my favorite feature of the blog.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 02, 2015 12:35 AM (27veP)

177 I picked it up by its hind feet, and though I had played no part in its
death, I was immediately gripped by a sensation so discrete, so distinct
from all else we feel, that I believe it requires its own label:
hunter's pride. It's the raw, feral thrill I have experienced only on
the occasions when I have picked up a fresh dead animal I intend to eat.



Vestigial manhood makes an appearance in a carrion eater.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 02, 2015 12:36 AM (oKE6c)

178 "I'm 23, female, a lesbian, white, mentally ill, visually impaired, a recent college graduate, an atheist, very left-wing, from the U.S., and seeking to learn more every day."


Even God fouls off an occasional pitch.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 02, 2015 12:37 AM (oKE6c)

179 (Oh brudder. I just posted the below in last night's ONT thinking it was tonight's.)

Hey everybody.

Well, literally 30 years after I first bought it and 25-odd years after I sold it, I finally just tonight used Amazon Music to digitally reassemble an LP I've been waiting since 1988 to be reissued on CD, but never was.

The album in question was/is "My Ever Changing Moods," by the Style Council. Paul Weller was and is a stalinist piece of shit, but damn the guy can write and perform an incredible tune. (And, *every single* of the 12 songs on it is actually in a different musical style, from early rap to disco to late-night lounge.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 02, 2015 12:39 AM (ntObR)

180 Evening horde.

One year ago today I stuck my dick in crazy.

Not recommended.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 01, 2015 11:47 PM (9jeGC)

Details, please.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:40 AM (w1ewr)

181 Damn. ONT at 176.

???

Was it because the south rose again and took down the aggressive federal government with .45's while the north had 9mm's or was it the Union longbow's against the Confederate crossbow's?

All while eating real BBQ from Texas instead of that vinegar based NC cat food.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:40 AM (9jeGC)

182 Vestigial manhood makes an appearance in a carrion eater.

Please come to the Chicago suburbs, I will attempt to fill your freezer for free during tomato season.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:41 AM (ahBY0)

183 178 "I'm 23, female, a lesbian, white, mentally ill, visually impaired, a recent college graduate, an atheist, very left-wing, from the U.S., and seeking to learn more every day."


Even God fouls off an occasional pitch.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 02, 2015

Duckbill platypus

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:41 AM (OMXTD)

184 Wikipedia rocked by 'rogue editors' blackmail scam targeting small businesses and celebrities

http://tinyurl.com/psyxq8p

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 02, 2015 12:41 AM (0TXlm)

185 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 12:41 AM (3balI)

186 Is Rickl here tonight?

Wanted to let her know, she inspired me to *finally* re-purchase the 'So-Lo' album by Danny Elfman.

Forgot how great (and dark) a song like "Only When I Laugh" is. (I think it's the song John Boehner likes to have played when he's getting violently dommed every Wednesday at 10pm in some deep, dark, forgotten cloakroom far below the House chambers.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdycnbjpGI

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 02, 2015 12:42 AM (ntObR)

187 Howdy, y'all!

Greetings your eldritch horrorness.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 02, 2015 12:43 AM (YJmuy)

188 Emmie, Mindy

Transnamed?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:43 AM (OMXTD)

189 Rogue editors?? How can you tell the difference between them and 'regular editors' of Wiki?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:43 AM (0AxXh)

190 Yes, MisHum. I'm transitioning.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 02, 2015 12:44 AM (27veP)

191 Wanted to let her know,
----------------

Hold it. rickl is an 'ette?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 02, 2015 12:44 AM (9mTYi)

192 Rogue editors?? How can you tell the difference between them and 'regular editors' of Wiki?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:43 AM (0AxXh)


The regular editors haven't been caught... yet.

Posted by: The Wiki Hat at September 02, 2015 12:44 AM (0TXlm)

193 Evening Cthulhu.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:45 AM (0AxXh)

194 Mark Levin (He just seems to touchy feely to me)

I'll have to admit never hearing Mark described in this fashion before.

Me either. Have you never heard him on a rant?

Posted by: Infidel at September 02, 2015 12:05 AM (6hxg7)

I dislike Levin. He is a screechy blowhard who acts like an ass.

Posted by: Radio Hat at September 02, 2015 12:18 AM (0TXlm)

We need more people to act like assholes to the other side. All this Kumbayah unite the country bullshit is for the fucking birds.

Mark is the real deal, unlike most.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:45 AM (w1ewr)

195 Mark is the real deal, unlike most.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:45 AM (w1ewr)


A real deal nails-on-chalkboard blathering schmuck.

Posted by: The AM Hat at September 02, 2015 12:46 AM (0TXlm)

196
Details, please.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:40 AM (w1ewr)

Talking to a girl friend-wise for four years. Met on American Horror Story Facebook page. Very close friends cause we just talked/text and never met so we shared everything.. Finally decided to meet up last year on my birthday. Connected big time and got a full on clinger, and she admitted it. I was too stupid to take all the signs in. Even when she told me straight up. So basically dealt with an posessiv agoraphobic paranoid schizophrenic. Which I thought I could 'cure.' Because she was a good friend at the very least.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:47 AM (9jeGC)

197 Duckbill platypus
-----------------'
What did you call me?!?!?

Posted by: Chi at September 02, 2015 12:47 AM (9uYwf)

198 195 Mark is the real deal, unlike most.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:45 AM (w1ewr)

A real deal nails-on-chalkboard blathering schmuck.
Posted by: The AM Hat at September 02, 2015 12

...........and that's when the fight broke out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:48 AM (OMXTD)

199 Mark is the real deal, unlike most.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:45 AM (w1ewr)

A real deal nails-on-chalkboard blathering schmuck.

Posted by: The AM Hat at September 02, 2015 12:46 AM (0TXlm)

I'm cool with that.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:48 AM (w1ewr)

200 ...........and that's when the fight broke out

*cues up the fighting Girl Scouts clip in Airplane!*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:49 AM (0AxXh)

201 Talking to a girl friend-wise for four years. Met on American Horror Story Facebook page. Very close friends cause we just talked/text and never met so we shared everything.. Finally decided to meet up last year on my birthday. Connected big time and got a full on clinger, and she admitted it. I was too stupid to take all the signs in. Even when she told me straight up. So basically dealt with an posessiv agoraphobic paranoid schizophrenic. Which I thought I could 'cure.' Because she was a good friend at the very least.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:47 AM (9jeGC)

Hoo boy. Sounds like a made for TV movie.

Posted by: Blano at September 02, 2015 12:50 AM (w1ewr)

202 Mais non, Kermie et Piggie est fin?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 02, 2015 12:50 AM (Vm8WO)

203 Hi to AP and BB. Thread bifurcated, back in a few.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 12:50 AM (3balI)

204 Hello, Horde.

Dammit, it seems I only get time to post here when I have crap to deal with. Maybe that's the only time I slow down enough to realize I'm just a guy and certainly no super-hero.

In the last week, my oldest sister has lost her home, and one of my aunts had a stroke. Today, I found out my Dad has cancer in both his lungs. I don't know yet if it's malignant, but considering how long he's been a smoker, I don't think the odds are good.

I'm only writing about this here because I know a good number of you will understand. And also because I need to vent, and I can't do it on the air (ironically, we're told to "be real", but can only do it in 20-second spurts. How the hell do you condense a week like this into a 20-second blurb?).

So, I hope you will also understand that I just don't give a flying expletive deleted about politics right now. Hoping I get to see Dad one more time before it's too late is a bit more important.

God bless you all. Thanks for listening.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 12:52 AM (rJUlF)

205 "We gave Stalin an iMac, and you'll never believe what happens next."

He uses the screen name Hector?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at September 02, 2015 12:53 AM (eO8VF)

206 Wow RWC..... a LIfetime movie there. Or she is related to the idiot who keyed ex-bf's care with 'wore' instead of 'whore' as linked by Maet...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:53 AM (0AxXh)

207 Duckbill platypus

-----------------'

What did you call me?!?!?

Pics of your lips or it doesn't count. Kiddin now. lol

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 12:54 AM (ahBY0)

208 sup guise.

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 02, 2015 12:56 AM (R5HRU)

209 God bless you all. Thanks for listening.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September

Jeez CW sorry to hear about the family misfortunes.
Go spend some time with your Dad

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 12:57 AM (OMXTD)

210 MH,
As soon as I'm able. Maybe this weekend, if I can make it happen.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 12:59 AM (rJUlF)

211 Manhug, Cap'n. When it rains it pours. Everything seems to happen at once. My thoughts and prayers will be with you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 02, 2015 01:00 AM (9mTYi)

212 Lifetime movie...yeah.

But the thing I hate was she was a good friend before we hooked up. Mental disease...I went through it, it's not fun. She has absolutely no recollection of me. Going from marry me, marry me I love you love you love you to 'who are you?'

Can't blame her. Talked to numerous sources and she really doesn't remember me (took herself off psych meds without docs approval didn't help.). Oh well, got a new car and new teeth out of it so all's well that ends well.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 01:00 AM (9jeGC)

213 >>>God bless you all. Thanks for listening.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September
---
Well, now I know how I can pray for you.

It's wise of you to prioritize time with your dad. Politics will still be here when you have time for it again.

{{{{{CW}}}}}

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 02, 2015 01:01 AM (27veP)

214 There is the theory of Don't Stick Your Dick in Crazy.

However there is another theory. One promoted by Pat Dailey in a song.

https://youtu.be/NTH4XfJBryw

Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:01 AM (zt+N6)

215 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 12:59 AM (rJUlF)

I hope you can. Prayers for you and yours

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 01:01 AM (OMXTD)

216 I'm out.

Love y'all!

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 02, 2015 01:02 AM (27veP)

217 Captain Whitebread

Damn dude, that's a lot. God Bless.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:02 AM (ahBY0)

218
207 Wow RWC..... a LIfetime movie there. Or she is related to the idiot who keyed ex-bf's care with 'wore' instead of 'whore' as linked by Maet...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 12:53 AM (0AxXh)

I think most of her family is 'related' IYKWMTYD.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 01:02 AM (9jeGC)

219
74 18-1 at September 01, 2015 11:55 PM (5LOno)

But this does color Muhammed's early wars of conquest in a different light. Is it possible the Meccans he massacred were actually the first Muslims?


This suggests that Mo wasn't The Prophet ... or even A Prophet ... and the Meccans knew it, and had writings to so prove.



The "72 Raisins" translation is starting to look very much more likely.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 02, 2015 01:03 AM (FlRtG)

220 Something, something, beware of false prophets...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 02, 2015 01:04 AM (9mTYi)

221 Ouch Captain Whitebread.

That is certainly a lot to plop onto your plate at once. Blessings.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 01:04 AM (0AxXh)

222 217

Good night, Emmie. Thanks for the prayers and the cyberhugs.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 01:05 AM (rJUlF)

223 Good nite Morons
Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 02, 2015 01:05 AM (OMXTD)

224 Got through selected content and I'm about to start on comments.....does the FCC even understand how radios work??? Like, perhaps, mixing it with a 4GHz tone (yielding 1GHz and 9GHz signals), lowpass filtering it, then mixing it back up into a desired band (say 2.4 GHz -- you mix with 1.4 and highpass the result)....



Seriously, it's like they're so fixated on political games that none of the apparatchiks could qualify for a class four radio license....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 01:06 AM (3balI)

225 Manly hug (((Captain Whitebread))))

That's a lot to take in and never apologize for venting to the horde.

Here for you to vent when you can't anywhere else or choose not to.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 01:06 AM (9jeGC)

226 Cthulhu, you are assuming lawyers would know what Single Side-band is. Or heterodyne.

Arbalest or an Islamic scholar practiced recycling on a piece of parchment. In this case, the ink should tell the tale.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 01:08 AM (0AxXh)

227 Wouldn't it be hilarious if the holy koran was written by the filthy JOOOs?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 02, 2015 01:11 AM (75uvI)

228 G'night MH, and Emmy too

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 02, 2015 01:11 AM (9mTYi)

229 Thanks, ya'll.

I'm trying to remind myself there have been good things this week, too. My granddaughter started pre-K and Skyped me to tell me all about it. (Her summary: "We played and played and played and played, then I came home!") I got the part of Mitch in the community theatre's production of "A Streetcar Named Desire". First dramatic role ever for me. My last visit to the doctor was very encouraging. I was told I'm in very good shape for nearly a year post-heart surgery.

I just wish I could be there for the family right now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 01:12 AM (rJUlF)

230 Hehe, DirectTV now has Andrew Luck and Out of Control Beard Andrew Luck commercials. Like the Tony Romo ads, we all know who the real one truly is.

Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:12 AM (zt+N6)

231 Something, something, beware of false prophets...

Watch out now,
Take care, beware of greedy leaders.
They take you where you should not go.
While weeping Atlas cedars,

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:12 AM (ahBY0)

232 Is The Koran Older Than Muhammad?
---
It's a trick question because the guy never existed. Nobody ever heard of the prick until later, and there's no evidence whatsoever that he even existed.

Posted by: OP at September 02, 2015 01:12 AM (TzeLs)

233 CW, that is a bundle of troubles, to be sure. Thank goodness you're still here to help your family shoulder those immense burdens.



Thoughts and prayers, dude.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 01:13 AM (3balI)

234
AP:

Arbalest or an Islamic scholar practiced recycling on a piece of parchment. In this case, the ink should tell the tale.

My understanding of the situation is that early Christians re-used parchment because they frequently could not afford new; Christians were usually poor during the first 300 years after Christ.

Muslims ... after the conquest of Mecca ... were never poor; at least not until the 1800s. That they would re-use parchment seems highly unlikely.

The idea of parchment or paper, lying around unused for years, before the 1800's seems extremely unlikely.

The carbon dating of the parchment could be off ... 20 or 30 years is enough.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 02, 2015 01:16 AM (FlRtG)

235 OK, I have to try to sleep. Still have to get in some exercise in the morning, and that alarm will ring way too soon.

Later, y'all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 02, 2015 01:17 AM (rJUlF)

236 234 Is The Koran Older Than Muhammad?
---
It's a trick question because the guy never existed. Nobody ever heard of the prick until later, and there's no evidence whatsoever that he even existed.

----------

Maybe that's why you never see pictures of the dude.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 02, 2015 01:19 AM (75uvI)

237 In re the Paul Weller comments above, please check out his first two solo albums , "Paul Weller" and "Wild Wood" - they're incredibly good...

Posted by: Slash buzz at September 02, 2015 01:20 AM (pkkOV)

238 Night CW. Better times ahead.

G'night horde. Thanks for being you.

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 01:21 AM (9jeGC)

239 Night Captain W. Hug them while you can. Even if cyberish.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 02, 2015 01:24 AM (GzDYP)

240 George,

Make friends. Please.

Posted by: Hedy at September 02, 2015 01:25 AM (KpCv4)

241 Wandered off and came back just in time to miss the good Captain.

If you're still reading, CW, the horde has your back.

I lost both parents to cancer, it's hard but you'll get through.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 02, 2015 01:26 AM (YJmuy)

242 Well I'll be... someone in Hollyweird has noticed the Theta-Male trend.

The Intern with Robert DeNiro and Anne Hathaway
https://youtu.be/ZU3Xban0Y6A

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 01:26 AM (0AxXh)

243 Watch out now,
Take care, beware of,
Soft shoe shufflers,
Dancing down the sidewalks,

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:29 AM (ahBY0)

244 On hunting-

Despite our ever-changing, ever-indignant world with its growing ignorance of and indifference to the ways of the wild, I remain a predator, pitying those who revel in artificiality and sythentic success while regarding me and my kind as relics of a time and place no longer valued or understood. I stalk a real world of dark wood and tall grass stirred by a restless wind blowing across sunlit water and beneath star-strewn sky. --M. R. James

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 02, 2015 01:33 AM (dULJN)

245 232 Hehe, DirectTV now has Andrew Luck and Out of Control Beard Andrew Luck commercials. Like the Tony Romo ads, we all know who the real one truly is.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:12 AM (zt+N6)


Can't wait to see the "concussed RG3" one.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 02, 2015 01:35 AM (Z7G74)

246 It's dead Jim, how about Billy Preston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drCKvCL93hw

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:36 AM (ahBY0)

247 Can't wait to see the "concussed RG3" one.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 02, 2015 01:35 AM (Z7G74)



Did you hear that he wuz #hacked

Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:36 AM (zt+N6)

248 Maybe that's why you never see pictures of the dude.
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 02, 2015 01:19 AM (75uvI)
---
Nobody he supposedly defeated in the day ever wrote about him or "Moslems", and they were all pretty literate people. Supposedly that only refered to themselves as moslems, yet nobody heard of them till 100 years later.

Posted by: OP at September 02, 2015 01:37 AM (TzeLs)

249
Did you hear that he wuz #hacked
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:36 AM (zt+N6)


I heard it was one of his interns.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 02, 2015 01:38 AM (Z7G74)

250 That's who he blamed.

Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:39 AM (zt+N6)

251 245
Watch out now,
Take care, beware of,
Soft shoe shufflers,
Dancing down the sidewalks,


Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:29 AM (ahBY0)

Beware of darkness

Posted by: BignJames at September 02, 2015 01:40 AM (j7iSn)

252 Hello and good night, friends in a box.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at September 02, 2015 01:43 AM (eO8VF)

253 Beware of darkness
Posted by: BignJames
---------

Cuz the goblins 'll git you, if you don't watch out.

Posted by: James Whitcombe Riley at September 02, 2015 01:43 AM (9mTYi)

254 Isn't it a pity,
Isn't it a shame?

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 01:49 AM (ahBY0)

255 252 That's who he blamed.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2015 01:39 AM (zt+N6)


And the thing that he or his intern "liked" was a negative comment about Snyder. Snyder, his biggest defender.

The whole thing is fascinating. On the Redskin's message boards and other social media, all the black folks are critical of the move, and most say that Gruden sabotaged him because he is black. Not that he gets sacked every 10 pass attempts, can't read defenses, and holds the ball until after the receiver gets open.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 02, 2015 01:50 AM (Z7G74)

256 Wow, the ONT got a really slow start. I'm already merging the bifurcation.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 01:55 AM (3balI)

257 Yeah the ONT has petered out, much like tropical storm Fred.

Still trying to decide about what to put in upper left corner of book cover art. Really don't want to obscure the field of blue with stars. But need balance.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:05 AM (0AxXh)

258 This rock and roll has got to stop,
Junior's head is hard as rock.
Now junior, behave yourself.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 02:10 AM (ahBY0)

259 It's easy once you figure it out. Mohammed was a demon sent by Allah, otherwise known as Ol' Scratch, to stir up the idiots who lived in the desert and get them on a path straight to hell, and arm them with the certainty that murder and mayhem would get them into heaven. Turns out, Ol' Scratch is a liar. Those 72 virgins? They are all men, who like to give it up the pooper.

So, yes, Mohammed did exist, and still does, but not exactly the way he is depicted in the Koran. It is full of lies, just like he is.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 02, 2015 02:12 AM (+YMhA)

260 And in New Zealand, we see the fruits of a government appointed panel and its recommendations for a new national flag.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p6afnv3

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:18 AM (0AxXh)

261 just found out the hard way that the remote for my Air Conditioner interferes with the signal for my tv and now the picture tube makes everything look like a negative....

Posted by: vivi at September 02, 2015 02:22 AM (etM5R)

262 Anna Puma, I've been following your search for the cover of your book and I wish this pixy allowed pics so I could see what you have. I've been in art in some way or other so long I can't resist in asking more about what you are looking for.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 02:24 AM (ahBY0)

263 Man, ya'll are all pooping out just as I get aboard the crazy train.
What's up with that?

As for the Koran older than it's fictional prophet?
Meh, he was an imaginary freak of a cult.
Small wonder there are no pictures and very few descriptions of the goat fucker.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 02, 2015 02:24 AM (4pjhs)

264 135 Officially my b-day...yet I see no presents.

I see something glowing in the corner....

Hmmmm....

Posted by: RWC- TEAM BOHICA at September 02, 2015 12:14 AM


Yes, yes, closer, that's it...

Posted by: A Lump of Plutonium at September 02, 2015 02:24 AM (hvRi6)

265 Dartist, here is the cover for the Kindle edition. Trying to keep using same elements.

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:25 AM (0AxXh)

266 262 Yeah, things run really smooth now.
No pushback.
My kind of place.

Posted by: deep, deep, into the night at September 02, 2015 02:14 AM (q509P)




It's still a place where people can post things like:


Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me,
As plurdled gabbleblotchits,
On a lurgid bee,
That mordiously hath blurted out,
Its earted jurtles,
Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer. [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,
And living glupules frart and slipulate,
Like jowling meated liverslime,
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turling dromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:27 AM (3balI)

267 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 02, 2015 02:29 AM (YJmuy)

268 Gmac, one of the problems of having such a fragmentary view of the early years of Islam is very simple. The competing seats of power that styled themselves as Islamic as they fought schism wars were mostly effective in erasing different viewpoints. So all anyone has are fragments of later works that use works that no longer exist.

And I think it was Spencer that a few years ago published a book that indicated for the first century of Islam, there was no mention of Mo. So yes the chances of him being fictional are probably very high.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:31 AM (0AxXh)

269 272 Gmac, one of the problems of having such a fragmentary view of the early years of Islam is very simple. The competing seats of power that styled themselves as Islamic as they fought schism wars were mostly effective in erasing different viewpoints. So all anyone has are fragments of later works that use works that no longer exist.

And I think it was Spencer that a few years ago published a book that indicated for the first century of Islam, there was no mention of Mo. So yes the chances of him being fictional are probably very high.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:31 AM (0AxXh)



But isn't the entire early history of Islam -- shiite v. sunni; "right caliphs" v. "pretenders" -- a struggle for succession? Which begs the question, "if Mo is a myth, succession from what?"



Now, I can easily envision Mo taking early drafts of a Koran, making it all about him, then killing off the early drafters as apostates and unbelievers.....and I can easily envision his actual name being Fred, in a "Dread Pirate Robert" vein. But the continuing struggle over "title" to the caliphate might seem to indicate that some individual had title to it in the first place.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:39 AM (3balI)

270 274 Well I know one about a fellow from Nantucket I think it was...

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 02:39 AM (LAliD)

271 Can't wait till Obama decides we need a new flag.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 02:40 AM (OSs/l)

272 274 Anybody got a better poem?

Posted by: deep, deep, into the night at September 02, 2015 02:34 AM (q509P)



This is analogous to showing-up at a potluck without a dish and complaining about the food.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:41 AM (3balI)

273 Dartist, here is the cover for the Kindle edition. Trying to keep using same elements.


I'm a 70s trained graphic artist so bear that in mind, if it matters. Upper left needs nothing but spacing. The stripes a bit bigger so your title fits nicer. Meaning Golden shouldn't lay right on the top edge of a stripe and ISIS is hard to read with the stars cutting into the type.The idea is nice but the Nazi should be darker and ISIS should be moved up.My humble opinion of course. Very nice layout and idea overall.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 02:45 AM (ahBY0)

274 I saw the Osirian Egyptian kneel adown
Before the vine-wreath crown!
I saw parched Abyssinia rouse and sing
To the silver cymbals ring!
I saw the whelming vintage hotly pierce
Old Tartary the fierce!
The kings of Inde their jewel scepters vail,
And from their treasures scatter pearled hail;
Great Brahma from his mystic heaven groans,
And all his priesthood moans;
Before young Bacchus' eye wink turning pale.
Into these regions came I following him,
Sick hearted, weary --- so I took a whim
To stray away into these forests drear
Alone, without a peer;
And I have told thee all thou mayest hear.


The Bacchanals, John Keats from "Endymion."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:45 AM (0AxXh)

275 Oh hell, sorry, I also can't type for shit.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 02:47 AM (ahBY0)

276 Well in the dead tree version it seems I have more real estate. So moving the title to the top. Above the flag. Which is why I am looking for some balance. As for the German eagle, I want it to be there a bit like a shark lurking ready to devour so don't want it too bold, in the Kindle version that is 18% opacity but in dead tree version boosting it to 30% to make it stand out more.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 02:51 AM (0AxXh)

277 But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
A savage place! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon-lover!
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced:
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:51 AM (3balI)

278 Ancestral voices prophesying war!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:51 AM (3balI)

*****

Please stop doing that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 02:56 AM (d3JSA)

279 This nugget from a commentator on a website that talks about whether Mohammed existed:

"Maybe Muhammad was really psychotic and needed medication, just like Jesus Christ."

Yeah, because Jesus Christ sounds just like Mohammed in whatever psychosis he supposedly has./ sarc

Then there's a German professor of theology who doesn't think Mohammed existed either but converted to the faith because its "very rational" Uhhh huuh-By what criteria?

I probably shouldn't follow links on here down other rabbit holes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 02:59 AM (OSs/l)

280 289 Ancestral voices prophesying war!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 02:51 AM (3balI)

*****

Please stop doing that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 02:56 AM (d3JSA)



Which particular "that" are you referring to?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:01 AM (3balI)

281 Anna-

When is your book coming out in the dead tree version? I would like to purchase it but don't have Kindle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:01 AM (OSs/l)

282 10 According to the ARIS study, there are now 150 Mormon women for every 100 Mormon men in the state of Utah -- a 50 percent oversupply of women.
--------------------
Is there even such a thing???

Posted by: Chi


I bought a Conestoga wagon and we call it a woody
(Salt Lake City, here we come)
You know it's not very cherry, it's an oldie but a goody
(Salt Lake City, here we come)
Well, it ain't got a back seat or a side kickstand
But it still gets me to the Promised Land!
And we're goin' to Salt Lake City, 'cause it's one-and-a-half to one
You know we're goin' to Salt Lake City, gonna have some fun
Yeah, we're goin' to Salt Lake City, 'cause it's one-and-a-half to one
You know we're goin' to Salt Lake City, gonna have some fun.
One-and-a-half girls for every boy!

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 03:02 AM (jBuUi)

283 Well in the dead tree version it seems I have more real estate. So
moving the title to the top. Above the flag. Which is why I am looking
for some balance. As for the German eagle, I want it to be there a bit
like a shark lurking ready to devour so don't want it too bold, in the
Kindle version that is 18% opacity but in dead tree version boosting it
to 30% to make it stand out more.

Hard to see what you mean without seeing it. If it was mine I'd blow the flag up some so the DEN wasn't laying on the top line of the red stripe. I like the D hanging in the blue field some though. Maybe a black outline for ISIS so the stars don't over power it? I still think the Isis image needs to move up to tighten it up some. Type should never lay on a line of color. It fucks with the eye.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 03:03 AM (ahBY0)

284 Which particular "that" are you referring to?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:01 AM (3balI)

***

The long ass quote I referenced, albeit with only the last line quoted.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 02, 2015 03:04 AM (d3JSA)

285 The day comes fast when all men must depart,
And pay for present pride in future woes.
The deeds that frantic mortals do
In this disordered nook of Jove's domain,
All meet their meed; and there's a Judge below
Whose hateful doom inflicts th' inevitable pain.

O'er the Good soft suns the while
Through the mild day, the night serene,
Alike with cloudless luster smile,
Tempering all the tranquil scene.
Theirs is leisure; vex not they
Stubborn soil or watery way,
To wring from toil want's worthless bread:
No ills they know, no tears they shed,
But with glorious Gods below
Ages of peace contented share.
Meanwhile the Bad with bitterest woe
Eye-startling tasks and endless tortures wear.
All, whose steadfast virtue thrice
Each side the grave unchanged hath stood
Still unseduced, unstained with vice,
They by Jove's mysterious road
Pass to Saturn's realm of rest,
Happy isle that holds the blest;
Where sea-born breezes gently blow
O'er goodly tree profusely pours;
Whence pluck they many a fragrant band,
And braid their locks with never-fading flowers.


The Greek Future Life by Pindar. Translation by A. Moore.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:07 AM (0AxXh)

286 I think cthulhu could do much worse than quoting from "Kubla Khan". I like it!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:08 AM (OSs/l)

287 And I like Keats too!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:10 AM (OSs/l)

288 FenelonSpoke, working on the dead tree cover art. Internal formatting is done. Maybe. Will know when I order a proof copy.

Dartist, hence I am moving the title to be above the main image so the title is clearly seen.

Mo in surviving texts is described as their guy in a cave tightly wrapped in a blanket while receiving the sacred teachings from Jibrel. Joseph Campbell posits a possible explanation that Mo was an epileptic and was having his visions during seizures.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:13 AM (0AxXh)

289 And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! and through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:14 AM (3balI)

290
291 This nugget from a commentator on a website that talks about whether Mohammed existed:

"Maybe Muhammad was really psychotic and needed medication, just like Jesus Christ."

Yeah, because Jesus Christ sounds just like Mohammed in whatever psychosis he supposedly has./ sarc

Then there's a German professor of theology who doesn't think Mohammed existed either but converted to the faith because its "very rational" Uhhh huuh-By what criteria?

I probably shouldn't follow links on here down other rabbit holes.
Posted by: FenelonSpok


I thought everyone was familiar with my world-changing, devastating article from 2012:

http://tinyurl.com/6opwqnz

Zombie Book Review: Did Muhammad Exist?, by Robert Spencer

Absolutely crushing. Game over for Islam. Of course the "Koran" predates the life of "Mohammed." There was no Mohammed. Zero evidence for his existence. Simply a name later attached to a pile of existing goat-skin manuscripts -- half of them cribbed from poorly translated Christian and Jewish apocrypha, half them bizarre desert rants compiled over the centuries.

Read the article -- you will not remain unconvinced: Mohammed was fictional.

A couple of random snippets:

"It is not until page 100 that Spencer lays out his thesis clearly:

Muhammad was an Arab messenger, born in Mecca, speaking Arabic, and bringing the message of Allah to the Arabs and thence to the world at large. Every element of that sentence is a commonplace that both Muslims and non-Muslims take for granted; yet every element, upon closer scrutiny, begins to dissolve. From the extant historical records, it is not at all clear that there was an Arab prophet named Muhammad anywhere near Mecca, who brought any kind of message to the world. Or at the very least, the records indicate that if there was a Muhammad, he was not in Mecca and didn’t preach anything that closely resembles Islam — until long after his death, when his biography and holy book as we know them began to be constructed."

...

"The name Muhammad actually appears in the Qur’an only four times, and in three of those instances it could be used as a title — the “praised one” or “chosen one” — rather than as a proper name. By contrast, Moses is mentioned by name 136 times, and Abraham, 79 times. Even Pharaoh is mentioned 74 times. Meanwhile, “messenger of Allah” (rasul Allah) appears in various forms 300 times, and “prophet” (nabi), 43 times. Are those all references to Muhammad, the seventh-century prophet of Arabia? Perhaps. Certainly they have been taken as such by readers of the Qur’an through the ages. But even if they are, they tell us little to nothing about the events and circumstances of his life.

...

The “full light of history” supposedly shining on Muhammad’s life results largely from the work of a pious Muslim named Muhammad Ibn Ishaq Ibn Yasar, generally known as Ibn Ishaq, who wrote the first biography of Muhammad. But Ibn Ishaq was not remotely a contemporary of his prophet, who died in 632. Ibn Ishaq died in 773, and so his work dates from well over a hundred years after the death of his subject. What’s more, Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah — Biography of the Messenger of Allah — has not survived in its original form. It comes down to us today only in a later, abbreviated (although still quite lengthy) version compiled by another Islamic scholar, Ibn Hisham, who died in 834….

The Muhammad of Ibn Ishaq is not a peaceful teacher of the love of God and the brotherhood of man but rather a warlord who fought numerous battles and ordered the assassination of his enemies. “The character attributed to Muhammad in the biography of Ibn Ishaq,” observes the twentieth-century historian David Margoliouth, “is exceedingly unfavorable.”…

...

To the Euro-American mind, the period we know as the “Dark Ages” remain almost completely obscure; even highly educated people would be hard-pressed to offhandedly name anything that happened in the 600s. The literary, archaeological and cultural record from the era is comparatively scant. And yet it is this exact period in which the story of Muhammad and the founding of Islam takes place. Thus, it could be argued that the absence of evidence is to be expected, since there is now an absence of evidence for most things that happened in that era.

Even so, there seems to be a sort of “event horizon” when it comes to the history of Islam: The closer one goes back in time toward the lifetime of Muhammad, the more difficult it is to proceed and the more unsure the sources. At a certain point – sometime in the century following Muhammad’s supposed death — the event horizon is reached, and no further progress can be made. The veil comes down, and we cannot see back to the beginning. So we will likely never know whether Muhammad was a real man, a linguistic boo-boo, or just a convenient fiction...."

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 03:16 AM (jBuUi)

291
"I'm 23, female, a lesbian, white, mentally ill,
visually impaired, a recent college graduate,
an atheist, very left-wing, from the U.S.,
and seeking to learn more acquire more victimhood labels every day."


Daddeeee! Look at meeee!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 02, 2015 03:16 AM (VLTL9)

292 Anna, it's nice how it is. I just have some brutal training about spacing. We used to cut copy, letter by letter and run hot wax on it and line it up with a T-square. I also think your name should be more prominent. Sorry if I'm too critical but it used to be my job.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 03:16 AM (ahBY0)

293 "Dear Pig, are you willing to sell for one shilling
Your ring?" Said the Piggy, "I will."
So they took it away, and were married next day
By the Turkey who lives on the hill.
They dined on mince, and slices of quince,
Which they ate with a runcible spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand,
They danced by the light of the moon,
The moon,
The moon,
They danced by the light of the moon.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:18 AM (3balI)

294 Zombie, correct my memory. But wasn't the Qu'ran, in the traditional story telling, not codified until a century after the supposed death of Muhammad? And then a Sura was only included only if two or more had heard the Prophet say it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:20 AM (0AxXh)

295 MWNP, I'm trying to keep my ramblings shorter and to the point -- as it were. Is that better? I've also lost the dialogue....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:23 AM (3balI)

296 309
Zombie, correct my memory. But wasn't the Qu'ran, in the traditional
story telling, not codified until a century after the supposed death of
Muhammad? And then a Sura was only included only if two or more had
heard the Prophet say it.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:20 AM (0AxXh)

And then there were all kinds of Hadiths (things we totally heard Old Moe say, yo!) that were added for the next 300 years. The whole thing is like a bizarre scrapbook exercise, and any small interest group could have gotten their pet rant added to it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 02, 2015 03:23 AM (J+mig)

297 309 Zombie, correct my memory. But wasn't the Qu'ran, in the traditional story telling, not codified until a century after the supposed death of Muhammad? And then a Sura was only included only if two or more had heard the Prophet say it.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Well, read the whole books review at the link for the full explanation.

The "confirmation tales" were themselves almost certainly fabricated as well, and it's documented that competing Arab factions inserted faked hadiths to undermine their political enemies, back and forth.

In short, not a single thing about the entire "book" is trustworthy.

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 03:23 AM (jBuUi)

298 Dartist, not a problem. This is why art is art and not science.

As for name being larger, that is 36pt font IIRC. And I agree it needs to pop more because you are the second person I've heard comment on it. Other person said; if they can't see the author's name in the thumbnail Amazon provides, they are not clicking.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:24 AM (0AxXh)

299 And then there were all kinds of Hadiths (things we totally heard Old Moe say, yo!) that were added for the next 300 years. The whole thing is like a bizarre scrapbook exercise, and any small interest group could have gotten their pet rant added to it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party


Jinx!

You and I essentially said the exact same thing at the exact same time!

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 03:24 AM (jBuUi)

300 In comparison, in Christianity and Judaism we have a plethora of older copies. Most squirreled away in monasteries for Christians and the forgotten but discarded Torah scraps in Cairo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:27 AM (0AxXh)

301 Does it really matter that Mohamed may not have existed? For that matter, Jesus may not have existed, either.

But honestly, does it matter?

Will people stop following these faiths? Will ISIS pack up and go home? Will Iran stop being the largest sponsor of terror in the world?

Nope.

It's because it's a faith, and if one can believe in a lot of other things one can't prove, see, touch, or feel, the fact that the figureheads of these religions doesn't exist isn't going to stop people from believing. What does one more unprovable factor matter?

Honestly, aren't all religions just a means of controlling people and a human construction?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at September 02, 2015 03:30 AM (2S9xy)

302 Anna, good luck with your book and good night Mrs. Calabash wherever you are.

Posted by: dartist at September 02, 2015 03:30 AM (ahBY0)

303 One bright morning in the middle of the night,
Two dead boys got up to fight.
Back-to-back they faced one another,
Drew their swords and shot each other.
One was blind and the other couldn't see,
So they chose a dummy for a referee.
A blind man went to see fair play,
A dumb man went to shout "hooray!"
A deaf policeman heard the noise,
And came and killed those two dead boys.
A paralyzed donkey walking by,
Kicked the copper in the eye,
Sent him through a rubber wall,
Into a dry ditch and drowned them all.
(If you don't believe this lie is true,
Ask the blind man -- he saw it too!)

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:31 AM (3balI)

304 Communism is also a cult with prophets like Marx and Lenin.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:31 AM (0AxXh)

305 Joseph Campbell posits a possible explanation that Mo was an epileptic and was having his visions during seizures.

With all due respect to Joseph Campbell who wrote some interesting things, most people who are basically anti religion (except as "interesting archetypal stories) think all saints or religious figures were suffering from some sort of psychiatric disorder. To which my response is if believing that God "speaks" or having visions means a person is psychotic, Gracious Lord give me the heart and mind of Therese of Lisieux, Francis of Assisi, St Faustna, Padre Pio. John Paul II, John Wesley, William Wilberforce and countless others.

But yes, if there was a Mohammed he sounds like a very bad man, and of course nothing like Jesus whose visions led him to better place.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:31 AM (OSs/l)

306 FenelonSpoke, Campbell wrote that observation back in 1969 along with commenting on how Islam was possibly cribbed from a group of Jews who lived nearby along with input from the Nesotarian branch of Christianity. And then compared Communism to Islam.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:33 AM (0AxXh)

307 304
Communism is also a cult with prophets like Marx and Lenin.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:31 AM (0AxXh)

That's a comparison that's well made. It puts its faith in government, and in the ability and decency of its leadership, despite our entire history as a species proving that doing so is a bad idea.
I've always took it for a Jungian thing. They tore down religion, so their magical thinking (which was previously contained by it) latched onto the next biggest thing it could get a hold of - the State.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 02, 2015 03:34 AM (J+mig)

308 St. Francis of Assisi actually participated in a Crusade. The one that washed ashore in Egypt. He was considered 'touched' by the Caliph and hence was granted gifts and sent home in accordance with the teachings of Islam

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:35 AM (0AxXh)

309 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:31 AM (OSs/l)

There's certainly many worse things in the world than having visions. I had one many years ago, and it made me a better person in almost every way, once I began to understand it and get over the initial shock.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 02, 2015 03:36 AM (J+mig)

310 Exactly Cato, much like the French Revolution. The State became god.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:37 AM (0AxXh)

311 Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:35 AM (0AxXh)

Well, fortunately he didn't get his head chopped off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:37 AM (OSs/l)

312 310
Exactly Cato, much like the French Revolution. The State became god.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:37 AM (0AxXh)

And the State is just people. Mankind's relationship to power is such that any power granted inevitably becomes a power abused, and usually within a fairly short time of its granting. Central power is a recipe for tyranny, but there's no convincing the Statists of it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 02, 2015 03:38 AM (J+mig)

313 I keep getting Flinders and Petrie mixed up for this story.

But the only way the Pyramids were originally measured was because one of those two started to act oddly while wearing a tutu. So the Muslims left him alone because he was crazy. And that was how the first modern measurement of the Pyramids happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:39 AM (0AxXh)

314 ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: Æthelberht þæs Cent at September 02, 2015 03:40 AM (0TXlm)

315 I'd rather be "psychotic" with the Saints than "rational" with Robespierre and Lenin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:42 AM (OSs/l)

316 To the Euro-American mind, the period we know as the "Dark Ages" remain almost completely obscure; even highly educated people would be hard-pressed to offhandedly name anything that happened in the 600s.

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 03:16 AM (jBuUi)

ಠ_ಠ

Spricaþ Ænglisc

Posted by: Æthelberht þæs Cent at September 02, 2015 03:42 AM (0TXlm)

317 315
I'd rather be "psychotic" with the Saints than "rational" with Robespierre and Lenin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:42 AM (OSs/l)

Same here.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 02, 2015 03:43 AM (J+mig)

318 Posted by: AEthelberht thaes Cent at September 02, 2015 03:40 AM (0TXlm)



I didn't know you wore glasses.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:43 AM (3balI)

319 He's trolling hoping a megane neko-chan will pop up much like Eris

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:44 AM (0AxXh)

320 The teachings of Christ can truly be boiled down to 'Be nice.'

The teachings of Mo? "Kill!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:46 AM (0AxXh)

321 I didn't know you wore glasses.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:43 AM (3balI)


Þá byresa þæs Cargástes!

Posted by: Æthelberht þæs Centwes at September 02, 2015 03:47 AM (0TXlm)

322 He's trolling hoping a megane neko-chan will pop up much like Eris

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:44 AM (0AxXh)


http://tinyurl.com/pxbwly7

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~ニャン at September 02, 2015 03:49 AM (0TXlm)

323 *peers*

Nyah? You've posted that before.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:50 AM (0AxXh)

324 320 The teachings of Christ can truly be boiled down to 'Be nice.'

The teachings of Mo? "Kill!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:46 AM (0AxXh)



I would more say that Christianity teaches to believe, think, and do what is right, noble, and good -- as your moral sense may indicate -- regardless of the personal mortification this may engender; Islam teaches to believe, think, and do from the Koran whatever is necessary for personal enrichment, despite what your moral sense may indicate.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:52 AM (3balI)

325
320The teachings of Christ can truly be boiled down to 'Be nice.'
Absolutely not. The essence of Christ (the "teaching") is the ransom sacrifice of Jesus for sinners otherwise irredeemable and being nice hasvery littleto do with that.

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 03:52 AM (LAliD)

326 "Godless commiies and critical theory"

A related essay by RS McCain:

http://tinyurl.com/ppl6msz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 02, 2015 03:53 AM (OSs/l)

327 The French revolution, starting leftists on the road to equality since 1789
Good morning horde

Posted by: skip at September 02, 2015 03:54 AM (02CDz)

328 321 I didn't know you wore glasses.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:43 AM (3balI)

tha byresa thaes Cargastes!

Posted by:AEthelberht thaes Centwes at September 02, 2015 03:47 AM (0TXlm)



You smoke cigars, as well? Good for you.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:55 AM (3balI)

329 Cthulhu has a better definition. I was going for a too simple distillation.

Islam is designed to appeal to Bedouins by codifying their raider ways.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 03:57 AM (0AxXh)

330 Fungus.

Posted by: teddy at September 02, 2015 03:58 AM (2f2uf)

331 You smoke cigars, as well? Good for you.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 03:55 AM (3balI)


Scence medue

Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt at September 02, 2015 04:01 AM (0TXlm)

332 Bad Lip Reading: Political Hat.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 02, 2015 04:04 AM (3balI)

333 Absolutely typical San Francisco moment:

Deranged anti-car activist, part of bicycle-riding "Critical Mass" weekly riot-on-wheels, smashes up a car's windshield while woman is in the driver's seat; video of incident shows the car-smasher was wearing a t-shirt with a quote praising "non-violence":

http://tinyurl.com/pt7bklw

Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2015 04:05 AM (jBuUi)

334 Night all.

Here is "High Country" by the Sword:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI-HrHi1YvY

Posted by: Þe Political Hat at September 02, 2015 04:05 AM (0TXlm)

335 Be sure to hug your teddy, or someone in a teddy.

Posted by: teddy at September 02, 2015 04:07 AM (2f2uf)

336 zombie, schizophrenia seems to be a requirement to be a 'progressive' activist.

Sleep or tinker with cover art? That is the question whilst mulling over stuff for sequel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 02, 2015 04:08 AM (0AxXh)

337 How can video of something that took place in public be copyrighted? Where is the expectation of any kind of privacy?

Maybe I need more Coffee?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 02, 2015 04:58 AM (VxKll)

338 Ok, that's it, I'm becoming a Mormon. Finally, some useful information from this toxic waste dump of a blog. Everything else I read here only causes anger and despair, never hope, except for this, and the fact that Jeb is toast.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at September 02, 2015 05:21 AM (fW9N0)

339 G'morning, all

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 06:12 AM (VPLuQ)

340 Hi Via.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 02, 2015 06:22 AM (4pjhs)

341 Good morning Gmac

Sun is coming up on the first day of the Freddie Gray hearings.

Wish us luck!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 06:27 AM (VPLuQ)

342 Morning, Horde

Posted by: fluffy at September 02, 2015 06:28 AM (2iV3X)

343 Sun is coming up on the first day of the Freddie Gray hearings.

Wish us luck!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 06:27 AM (VPLuQ)


Baltimore Strong (Arm Whitey)!

Posted by: RickZ at September 02, 2015 06:31 AM (HEtQ3)

344 Well this'll cheer ya up: http://tinyurl.com/o2zug6hAnn Coulter at the range

Posted by: MAx at September 02, 2015 06:32 AM (LAliD)

345 The Venn diagram between anarchism and mental illness would show lots of overlap, is my take after watching Zombie's latest.

A woman I know just moved from SF to Boston, two cities with some similarities, but this ugly, crazy side of SF is completely missing and she loves it.

Posted by: MTF at September 02, 2015 06:34 AM (TcePY)

346 >>> moved from SF to Boston, two cities with some similarities, but this ugly, crazy side of SF is completely missing and she loves it.

If she tries, she can find places to urinate in public.

Posted by: fluffy at September 02, 2015 06:37 AM (2iV3X)

347 344
Well this'll cheer ya up: http://tinyurl.com/o2zug6hAnn Coulter at the range

Posted by: MAx

The hipster trolls just can't say anything nice about her in the comments, what few of them were there to read.

I'd love to go shooting with Ann, its not the first time I've seen pictures of her doing that.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 02, 2015 06:40 AM (4pjhs)

348 Well, its about time for me to turn into a crack addicted F5 button pressing monkey to see if I can shoot the lights out of being first on the EMT.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 02, 2015 06:43 AM (4pjhs)

349 Squirrel is euphemism for hobo right?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 02, 2015 06:47 AM (VdICR)

350 Well, its about time for me to turn into a crack
addicted F5 button pressing monkey to see if I can shoot the lights out
of being first on the EMT.


Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 02, 2015 06:43 AM (4pjhs)


It's good to have goals in life. I need to get some.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 02, 2015 06:49 AM (JO9+V)

351 I've been First a couple of times, over the years. It's going to be in my obituary.
Would also make a pretty good headstone inscription.
"First!"

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 02, 2015 06:54 AM (xq1UY)

352 "It's good to have goals in life. I need to get some .

Congratulations...you have a goal.


Wasn't that easy?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 06:54 AM (VPLuQ)

353 Only 350 posts on the ONT? Slow night...

Posted by: @votermom at September 02, 2015 06:55 AM (cbfNE)

354 Le NOOD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 02, 2015 06:55 AM (VPLuQ)

355 On the Koran: given the span of 77 years, it almost twice as likely that the Koran was written in the 13 years after Muhammad's death (16.8%) as it is that it was written in the 2 years before Muhammad was born or to the period where he was five years old.

However, if this is a confidence interval, then it indicates that the bulk of the curve probably falls pretty close to the midpoint 38-39th year (and the tails are far less likely), or around the time that Muhammad would be 36-37 years old, by the dates given here.

Odd that what should *confirm* a period of authorship is taken as a chance on the fringes of the distribution curve to be a "possibility".

Posted by: Axeman at September 02, 2015 10:22 AM (2mC6G)

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