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IBD/TIPP Poll Shock: 59% of All Americans Support Mandatory Deportations for Illegals
Building a wall and ending birthright citizenship don't command majority support -- but they're in the mid-forties, which is plenty enough support for a party to adopt a position. Unless there's some other reason they have not to. Like some other constituency, apart from American voters, they have to satisfy. Meanwhile, Jeb goes after Trump-- mostly in Spanish.
Sen. Lindsey Graham called it "absolute gibberish." Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer called the idea "crackpot" and "morally obscene." But the prize for overheated rhetoric goes to Hillary Clinton, who said Trump wants to "literally pull people out of their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border." So what do these folks say about the fact that the majority of Americans back Trump on this? The latest IBD/TIPP Poll asked 913 adults coast to coast if they "support or oppose mandatory deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S." Not surprisingly, 87% of Trump supporters back the proposal. What's surprising is that 59% of the overall public does as well. Mandatory deportation gets majority support in all age groups except 18-24, every income group, among both women and men, at every level of educational achievement, and in rural, urban and suburban regions.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 01, 2015 02:44 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 01, 2015 02:44 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: FCF at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (kejii)
Posted by: nora at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (Z0p7B)
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 02:45 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: El Kabong at September 01, 2015 02:46 PM (9oC/Q)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (Z0p7B)
No.
But get caught? Get a speeding ticket? Traffic accident? If in any way the govt, state or federal, finds out you're illegal....adios pendejo!
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: USA at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (tfM+W)
why do you want to pick your own fruit?
why do dislike gangs?
Posted by: Chamber of Cronyism at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Fritz at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DangHillary from the sidebar at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (evdj2)
Not at all. Just go after the employers and the vast majority will leave when the jobs dry up.
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (Z0p7B)
Posted by: Francisco "Otter" Sanchez at September 01, 2015 02:48 PM (8ZskC)
It's take a little longer, but after the first 2 or 3 incidents the illegals will deport themselves.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (bYGAR)
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (Z0p7B)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Dang at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (2oWD2)
So yeah Hillary knows about packing people off.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: MFM Headlines at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (zOTsN)
Build a big FEMA camp in the Alaskan wastes and start shipping them there.
The LSM will naturally cover the story with horror and/or weaponized rhetoric and those who don't get shipped there will return home with all speed.
Posted by: Speller at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (hHs1b)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (t06LC)
And I'd like to treat our legal immigrants like Switzerland treats theirs.
Posted by: Iblis at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (9221z)
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Oh Hiily. Why didn't you just say round th em up and shove them into the ovens?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (dkrmM)
That 59% support "mandatory deportations" is, if you'll excuse me, yuuuuuge.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 02:51 PM (kff5f)
This is the line from Mark Levin, who is mocking the Democrats and the amnesty RINOs who always ask "What are you going to do, round them up?"
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 01, 2015 02:51 PM (4AVeu)
Ever drive on a highway in a populated area? Guess what's on the side of the road?
10 years ago, there were over 2500 linear miles of sound barriers erected along US highways.
In other words, just build an interstate highway along the border and then tell the DOT that there's a suburb on the other side that doesn't want the noise.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 01, 2015 02:51 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: Dang at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (IeVw0)
Posted by: nora at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (RGgMp)
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (Z0p7B)
This goes beyond tin ear. Maybe... steel ear.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (AkOaV)
BINGO!!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Dang at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (6zZ5y)
Because, having experienced cyclospara first hand, I would rather NOT eat food picked by people who are shitting in the fields.
Seriously guys, worst thing ever. I was sick for weeks, right after having my baby. All because of some damn cilantro that was put in my soup in Austin.
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (bYGAR)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 01, 2015 02:53 PM (evdj2)
Australia, whose gun laws we are apparently supposed to follow, despite their rape epidemic (correlation? whaaaaat?) has some very draconian immigration laws, which we are apparently not supposed to follow.
They send flyers and ads to nearby countries saying that if you try to get there in a boat, Australia will send you back.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 01, 2015 02:54 PM (Xd2w5)
Yes. Please. Round them up
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 02:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: duke at September 01, 2015 02:54 PM (mDxGf)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: 13times at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (WHVu+)
A few days ago, publius had a toss-off line about how Don Trump is the Gozer The Destructor of the establishment GOP.
Now of course I'm inescapably earwormed with the classic Rick Moranis dialogue from the original _Ghostbusters_ movie.
"Gozer the Traveller. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveller came as a large moving Torb! Then during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zulls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you."
Soon many establishment RINOs and DIABLOs will know what it is to be roasted in the depths of a giant Trump. And I'm frankly okay with that. It's all they deserve.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: nora at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (ZbV+0)
Amen... Particularly bad here in NorCal....
Posted by: donna at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Dang at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (2oWD2)
Here's another tidbit of falsehood that Jeb has embraced.
"You cant win the white house without the Latino vote"
Ummmm..... yes.you.can.
Quick question..... would you rather increase your Latino vote by 50%, or "the white" vote by 10%.
Show your work.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (8XRCm)
Trump wants to "literally pull people out of their homes and their
workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know, in buses, boxcars, in
order to take them across our border."
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Trump should throw egg right on her fat face and comeback with..."No, I won't do what your husband did to Elian Gonzalez, dragging him out of his room at gunpoint. I have a much more civil, humane plan."
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (pVkEV)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Pvt Hudson at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (/SIwB)
Posted by: Gil Favor at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (W5DcG)
Hope I conjugated my verb correctly.
Posted by: duke at September 01, 2015 02:54 PM (mDxGf)
It's "es." Eres is second person singular, es is third person singular.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (k8tEg)
Compared to this kind of thinking Alice lived in a sane world down that there rabbit hole.
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (Z0p7B)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (IeVw0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 02:47 PM (gW5Vg)
all it would take would be for local PDs to be able to ask about and verify immigration status when they pull over a guy with expired tags, no inspection, no insurance, and no drivers license then release him to ICE and we'd get most of the "low hanging fruit" illegals VERY quickly.
I mean think about that -- most illegals driving on the roads in the US right now are breaking about 10 fairly major traffic / safety laws. When you find people breaking those laws, don't impound their POS cars and let the guys go -- just deport them.
It really wouldn't take long. And others would see what was happening and decide, "hey I'd rather leave on my terms then worry I'm going to get pulled over and deported the same day" and will "self deport."
It's not complicated. Every other country in the world does this.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (AkOaV)
This goes beyond tin ear. Maybe... steel ear.
Yeah, it ain't too obscure a language, lots of us learned it in school. (Wait, does that make me "Hispanic"?)
If I have to have an amnesty shill, at least give me Rubio.
Rubio will try to persuade me and compromise on some of the most odious provisions.
Jeb will shove it down our throats with relish.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (Xd2w5)
Please god round them up. It's more humane
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (zOTsN)
Trump would answer 'yes' if someone asked him if he was a god.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (/SIwB)
Sez it right there, no?
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (k8tEg)
their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know,
in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border."
How many LIVs heard that and said
"Wait, deportation is an option?"?
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 02:57 PM (ZbV+0)
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And Democrats want us to be like every other country, right?
Posted by: cool arrow at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (g2DAI)
The only thing I find surprising about this is that Trump is the messenger. He seems to have some gift where he can say anything he wants at any given time regardless of what he said yesterday.
It seems like people do not care about anything other than the message these days, the messenger does not matter, which is an enormous change.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (OGm46)
remember to thank The Donald for making this a national conversation.
Posted by: Pvt Hudson at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (XUKZU)
Rigorous enforcement of existing immigration law would create conditions very favorable for SELF deportation.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (jeCnD)
I'm not so sure. Coming up here and not working, but living in Section 8 housing, collecting benefits, getting free medical, living off the EBT card, et cetera - it's got to beat the hell out of living in a cardboard box in Tijuana. Drying up the under-the-table job supply is just one piece of the puzzle.
And that applies double for gang members and cartel members. They're not coming here because of a chance at washing dishes and mowing lawns. All those thugs you see in those pictures, flashing gang signs and tattooed up like wallpaper? You're not going to find them loitering around the Home Depot waiting for a chance to help you with your drywall.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Dang at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (2oWD2)
But they have no negative impact....
Posted by: donna at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (hUdMz)
And did that in response to a massive wave of Palestinian terror bombings of buses and restaurants inside Israel proper.
Leftist critics said that the border structure wouldn't make any difference, that terror operatives would always get in, and that the terror campaign could only be stopped via the "two state solution" for which the left have constantly pressed.
Except that... gee whiz, Wally, as soon as the wall was complete, terror attacks inside Israel plummeted.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 02:59 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 01, 2015 02:59 PM (HSmrB)
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ITA. I'm convinced the majority of Americans have no real idea the economic impact (disaster) illegals are having on this country and its legal, taxpaying residents.
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at September 01, 2015 02:59 PM (pVkEV)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 02:49 PM (t06LC)
++++
I agree. Let's push them North. Damn Canadians annoy me anyway.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 01, 2015 02:59 PM (IN7k+)
I'll trade you my ten shiny pennies for your one lousy quarter.
Posted by: wooga at September 01, 2015 02:59 PM (z9oRh)
FIFY
Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (O+0DS)
At the risk of having a Pauline Kael moment, I find this implausible.
I don't even think Trump is talking about deporting all the illegals, is he? And no one serious is.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (JtwS4)
If the immigration laws haven't been repealed then enforce them.
No law making process, no Republic.
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (k8tEg)
constituency, apart from American voters, they have to satisfy.
I used to be a contender.
Posted by: , get this, at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (XkVXQ)
I live in rural KY, the problem is here too, however its the farmers who are making it worse. Bus them into a small town on weekends where many are rude, thieving, belligerent assholes. As an aside, one had best learn spanish as I am sure you know!
Posted by: FCF at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (kejii)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
Much appreciated!
Posted by: duke at September 01, 2015 03:01 PM (mDxGf)
The only thing I find surprising about this is that Trump is the messenger. He seems to have some gift where he can say anything he wants at any given time regardless of what he said yesterday.
It seems like people do not care about anything other than the message these days, the messenger does not matter, which is an enormous change.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2015 02:58 PM (OGm46)
Four years ago Trump couldn't have gotten this far. I think there's a large 'f*** it all' group this time, and honestly the huge part of it is to fight the 'you can't say that' group.
If Trump is elected, the PC lobby is broken.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 01, 2015 03:01 PM (/SIwB)
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:01 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 01, 2015 03:01 PM (TJCSB)
Posted by: Draki at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (0eidE)
Or would I get my ass kicked?
Posted by: LGoPs at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z0p7B)
Posted by: The Aztecs at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (nFhjK)
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (bYGAR)
He can get his own house in order, then. On becoming a citizen of the Vatican:
http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2012/07/the-current-legislation-on-citizenship-in-the-vatican-city-state/
In other words: Borders for the Pope's state, just not yours.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Xd2w5)
I so did not see that coming.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (hLRSq)
Come to CA or TX or AZ. As they slowly turned parts of town into third world shit holes
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
FIFY.
And, yes, there is a large TruCon Cat (f*ck Jeb in particular) contingent these days.
The DOPe brought it upon themselves.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (kff5f)
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A couple years ago, a buddy of mine had a house next door - 20 at the very least.
He said not one spoke english, but they were very quiet & kept to themselves. He never saw more than 3 outside at once.
They were in the shadows, I guess.
The shadows of an air-conditioned house with cable & wi-fi, but the shadows nonetheless...
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:03 PM (lDfK8)
I' would view that idea seriously.
But, I don't have the wherewithal to put that practice as policy.
But, I do take it seriously.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 01, 2015 03:03 PM (VPLuQ)
If Trump is elected, the PC lobby is broken.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 01, 2015 03:01 PM (/SIwB)
Donald J. Trump, leader of the "Let it Burn" party
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:03 PM (t06LC)
I don't even think Trump is talking about deporting all the illegals, is he? And no one serious is.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 01, 2015 03:00 PM (JtwS4)
I don't know, I kind of believe it.
I know a lot of democrats living in the northeast, and I have yet to meet one who does not think our immigration laws (at some level) should be enforced.
So when you say, "what should we do with people who come here illegally?" they reflexively say, "well, deport them, duh."
I mean, they have a list of "well, except MY gardener, and those valedictorian dreamers and and and" but on the overall question, it seems to be a pretty straightforward answer.
I mean, shit, listen to Bernie Sanders talk about illegal immigrants. He said the same shit Trump is saying -- you're not a sovereign country if you have wide open borders and (essentially) you can't have open borders and a welfare state simultaneously.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (IeVw0)
Posted by: El Kabong at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (9oC/Q)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:03 PM (t06LC)
Nope.
The "Burn it Down" party.
We just caucus with the "Let it Burn" party.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (kff5f)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/selection-du-weekend-155-1.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at September 01, 2015 02:44 PM (RD7QR)
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No. Trump tapped into the obvious.
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (IeVw0)
A big damn hero?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Draki at September 01, 2015 03:04 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (DsveK)
The left doesn't think he can win. So make him the face of the Republican Party, why should they care? It's win-win. Big ratings, Republicans lose.
Perhaps they'll care when they find out what it is to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (2lndx)
But if we actually made a small effort to find illegals, we'd be able to deport a large number of them very quickly. And once word gets out that the US government is back in the deportation game, a lot of people will leave voluntarily.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (AkOaV)
Guess who didn't control their borders,nor control immigration?
Native Americans.
And we know how that worked out...don't we.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (VPLuQ)
The DOPe brought it upon themselves.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (kff5f)
Sign me up! Where's the free beer?!
Posted by: Draki at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (0eidE)
Heh.
Back in the early 2000's the city of Alexandria, VA decided to build one of those temporary workers stations for illegals. Except...the site they selected was right next to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting national HQ. Oh, noes!! All those Lefty public TV types *did not* want to have to encounter the illegals as they walked to/from their car into the office.
Yeah, you know how this ends: the city built it elsewhere.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:06 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dr Spank
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Packed in there like a can of sardines.
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 01, 2015 03:06 PM (eEBON)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:06 PM (DsveK)
No one serious, perhaps, but the media-industrial complex is talking as if Trump and others were saying it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 01, 2015 03:06 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (zSvKA)
Off topic- What are his views on gun rights?
Posted by: Motorhead at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (EeFO7)
He is el hefe. Muy guapo.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (TULs6)
To this day, I find that photograph to be fascinating. I remember at the time being of the opinion, "if they were going to send him back, they should have done it day 1, not several months and a Disney trip later." It's a shame that Elian's poor mother died so he could become a sock-puppet for Fidel.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (lJJaE)
Which is what I find so interesting about the Trump phenomenon. He has moved into the mode where he is just parroting conservative talking points and people are eating it up.
I don't know how long it will last but it is a curious thing to watch.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
That's funny. I was on the wrong side of Houston one day and noticed all the signs were in Spanish. What I really thought was odd though was that everything at the Wal-Mart was in Spanish. I've been at wal-marts in Mexico and everything was in English.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (t06LC)
If the bag limit for illegals is two, then it should be higher for citizens. I'd suggest five.
Can I get me a hunting license here?
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (iIzG7)
I'd do that mainly to show the liberal progressives that we CAN do it, that we have the will and power to crush the libs. Sorry illegals you got caught between the liberal progressives and Americans, but you have to realize you've been used all along by the libs for their own purposes.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (DsveK)
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AAAAARRGH! !!
I just got that out of my head 10 minutes ago...
I hate you!
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (lDfK8)
State Dept briefing with Victoria Nuland on September 14, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/8m8crko
In hindsight, the lies are mind boggling
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (dQJCS)
Come to CA or TX or AZ. As they slowly turned parts of town into third world shit holes
Posted by: ThunderB
______________________________________________
So you've been to Galena Park...
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (eEBON)
and seal the Fing border.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (7vjeC)
He is el hefe. Muy guapo.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (TULs6)
Señor Trump se tiene el pelo falso.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (IeVw0)
Yeah, it was not set up as a dirty trick, but they provide their location/contact info every time they d this, or sign up their kids for public school, get benefits, etc. It's all there.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (NOIQH)
I'll point out it has cost him - Macy's, NASCAR, NBC.
If he's lying, it was damned expensive.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (/SIwB)
But when someone who is in this country illegally is encountered by Law Enforcement, it's time to reunite the separated family members.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Motorhead at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (EeFO7)
What day of the week is it?
Historically, not good. But, he may have evolved.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (t06LC)
LOL!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 02:50 PM (NOIQH)
I HATE that one. Fuckers go "Oh we can't deport them because its too hard" Like storming Normandy was easy? Like going to the moon was easy? Where were these nay-sayers when Obama was shipping illegals all over the country? We move millions of people around the country EVERY DAY. They're trying to plant this shit out there and its got to be fought.
Posted by: Iblis at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (9221z)
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AAAAARRGH! !!
I just got that out of my head 10 minutes ago...
I hate you!
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:08 PM (lDfK
One pill makes you smallerrrrrr....
Posted by: joncelli Airplane at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: steevy at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (sPO3u)
Slowly? Eh, not so much.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (DsveK)
No.
Speak for yourself. My patience is long past exhausted.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Motorhead at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (EeFO7)
He loves guns -- most fabulous wonderful things ever. Big gun guy -- they're great. Amazing, world class invention.
no I'm joking, I don't know if he has a position on guns.
I don't really care either way TBH as I think all pols lie and flip flop constantly and Trump is kind of growing on me.
If Trump found it necessary in the past to be a NY liberal to run his business in the best way possible, that doesn't really mean much to me. I would do the same thing -- you say and do what you need to in order to get shit done.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Lester at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (TJCSB)
I've heard many middle class Mexicans do this as well, come here to have the anchor baby, then go back home. Then their kid has this jackpot benefit available, or they have a pass to come over when they want. And we can't forget Mexico making the comic book explaining how to come illegally, since they get $30B a year or so in remittances.
They didn't build that! Warren's screeching makes sense in this case. We build industry, roads, give tax breaks ... then Mexicans send profits back to Mexico. This props up their corrupt country, and that money doesn't build our communities with the multiplier effect.
We need Americans to start having big families again, and renew American tradition.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (6zZ5y)
for every illegal turned in alive to a repatriation bus depot?"
Faster still would be $50 a scalp.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (iIzG7)
>>If he's lying, it was damned expensive.
Chump change for him. He will make that back 10 times over with the PR he is getting from this.
I don't if he's lying, had a religious experience or just done a complete flip flop on a host of issues but whatever he's doing it's working for him so far.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: maddogg at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush
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The American Dream?
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (DsveK)
Posted by: steevy at September 01, 2015 03:09 PM (sPO3u)
No, I mean seriously. This is true. 90% of them drive unregistered cars. The cops don't even bother pulling them over anymore.
Enforce traffic laws, do some drive bys of job sites and home depot parking lots and other day laborer spots and you could round up a million illegals in a matter of weeks.
Why not do that at a minimum? As a show of good faith.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (TJCSB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (DsveK)
Posted by: Colin at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (eoM8x)
Posted by: Feh at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (VIvbJ)
Posted by: maddogg at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (xWW96)
People are sick of hearing oh we'll secure the border first and then give amnesty while nothing is done to secure the border and de facto amnesty is already here.
People are sick of getting a ticket because they were so busy they forgot to get their car inspected and then having to stand in line at the courthouse to pay the ticket in person so as not to get points on their insurance and watching the 22 people in front of them who do not speak a word of English and who clearly do not have an inspection or insurance have their tickets dismissed and then they have to pay $350.
People are sick of hearing do you speak Spanish when someone calls into a business and, if the answer is no, getting a nasty why no one there speak Spanish?
People are sick of watching the prior fallback of hey at least I can mow some lawns or do construction or work in a restaurant while I look for work be heaved out the window since all of those jobs are being done by people of dubious legal employment status.
People are sick of having to get six different permits from six different departments when attempting to remodel their own house but the house down the street with 25 people living there and with bootlegged wiring from the electrical lines and cable is never bothered at all.
People are sick of moving into a house that maybe they can't quite afford because it's in the much better school district and then all of a sudden there are a whole bunch of kids in their children's classrooms who do not speak English and who do not have a grade appropriate prior education and who need all of the attention from the teachers.
People are sick of worrying if their kids are going to get Mexican polio.
But most of all?
People are sick of being called racist for objecting to any or all of the above.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (zOTsN)
When you've been taxed up to your eyeballs, fined for failing to put your bottles in a paper bag on the third Thursday of the month, and can't put a window in your garage without ten trips to the Dept of Obfuscation then you tend to take umbrage when informed that millions of "Dreamers" pay no income taxe, operate unlicensed vehicles and can basically ignore zoning laws to build fuck all.
Its Liberty inequality baby.
Posted by: NYC Peasant at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (k8tEg)
Trump's message is "The American people are tired of being the patsies."
100% dead on accurate. That's the reason why he's resonating with the public. Our own government ignores the law and the MFM calls us idiots for knowing they do it.
Trump is our voice, one we've been without for a long time.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:11 PM (DsveK)
Give tax credits to any transportation company that ships illegals home.
Posted by: Iblis at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush
A good start.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (TJCSB)
moved into the mode where he is just parroting conservative talking
points and people are eating it up.
I don't know how long it will last but it is a curious thing to watch.
I heard somewhere that the key to representative government is getting the wrong people to do the right thing
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:13 PM (iIzG7)
Kinda like Carson at this point, positive general remarks but not much specifics.
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: logprof at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (vsbNu)
Bio ID them, send them home ... they get $1000 at the border, a promise of prison if they return. It would be cheaper than "round them up" ... just give them a bus ticket ... shovel ready buses.
France tried this long ago, forget the $ amount, but think it was like $5000.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (6zZ5y)
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Thanks!
Posted by: speedster1 at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (xfE5u)
Good point.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: maddogg at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (xWW96)
So...
People seem to like the rule of law.
They also probably like their taxes staying "in the country."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:14 PM (DsveK)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (mf5HN)
Ooh, AtC, you are speaking my language here.
My biggest pet peeve.
As Steyn says, we're a country of the "overdocumented and the undocumented" and I, for one, am BEYOND sick of it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)
school systems heading for bankruptcy to afford opportunity to the 'dreamers'."
There was a school board member from a liberal locale up in the Northeast, at the time Obama kicked the doors wide open and started importing Guatemalan slum dwellers by the hundreds of thousands, who was practically crying as she related the impact it was going to have on her school district's already strained finances, as they were forced by the feds to take in hundreds of new pupils overnight who were in her words "illiterate in any language".
Don Trump would do well to go find that lady and put her up on the stage beside him with a mic in her hand, to repeat that message for emphasis.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 03:15 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (NOIQH)
Just one more smart GOP move.
Posted by: MTF at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (9krrF)
Well, I was speaking for myself. Very obviously.
So is mine.
My opinion on dealing with illegals? Easy. No more benefits. Punish the shit out of employers who hire illegals. If police come in contact with illegals in any way, deport their ass.
And under this, it'd be very easy to take care of those houses and apartments stuffed with illegals. You got 20 of em living next door to you? Call the cops. Cops spend about 5 minutes and it'll be obvious, bye bye house full of illegals.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: logprof
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If Anna keeps saying "white rabbit," you might see me get banned Live & In Person...
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:17 PM (zSvKA)
No.
Speak for yourself. My patience is long past exhausted.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:10 PM (9krrF)
Yeah, no. I like my Fourth Amendment rights, thank you very much.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:17 PM (2Ojst)
95 It's eres if he's trying to say "Jeb you are a loser"
It's es if he's trying to say "Jeb is a loser"
Both are correct
Posted by: MAx at September 01, 2015 03:17 PM (LAliD)
.....then he offered to do it anyways.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 01, 2015 03:17 PM (SGnC0)
I'm tired of watching 6 drunk illegals spill out of a brand spanking new Ford F-150 parked next to my 25-year-old truck in the Lowe's parking lot. Not a goddammed one of them can speak English.
While I've been out of a job for over 7 years now. And I'm the one who's in the wrong for saying something about it? WTF?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (DsveK)
And under this, it'd be very easy to take care of those houses and apartments stuffed with illegals. You got 20 of em living next door to you? Call the cops. Cops spend about 5 minutes and it'll be obvious, bye bye house full of illegals.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (g
BC i hold most of your views. Except for this one. I'm not so sure reporting illegals will always get them booted or removed. I blame this current administration. There are plenty of horror stories of illegals not being apprehended and caught or caught and released.
If I had a number of them around me I would be a little nervous dropping the dime on them.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (VJudD)
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (iIzG7)
While I've been out of a job for over 7 years now. And I'm the one who's in the wrong for saying something about it? WTF?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (LUgeY)
It's amazing what you can afford when you don't pay taxes.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (2Ojst)
But yes, we should be deporting many illegals. Maybe not all of them, honestly. I don't care. I think Bush's guest worker plan should have gotten more of a look, personally. This situation where people are basically second class non-citizens is a problem. For these people as much as for everyone else. It puts them in a bad situation, where they can be taken advantage of by employers and other opportunists (prostitution rings for example).
We should be aggressively deporting criminals and we should be refusing welfare of any kind to people here illegally. (private charities are a different matter).
Amnesty solves nothing. Obviously. We've done it before and look where we are.
Posted by: Lea at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (lIU4e)
While I actually have to, you know, work. And pay for my food. And hers too. And probably paid for that iPhone and the rims on her Escalade too.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (AkOaV)
*sips demurely*
And under this, it'd be very easy to take care of those houses and apartments stuffed with illegals. You got 20 of em living next door to you? Call the cops. Cops spend about 5 minutes and it'll be obvious, bye bye house full of illegals.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM (gW5Vg)
But that's not happening. If you do that today? Even if the local cops wanted to do something, ICE wouldn't do it and then La Raza would go full giant papier mache puppet heads on the local cops.
That's why the rage and frustration. That's why it's fuck it deport them all.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: The Donkey at September 01, 2015 03:20 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:12 PM (mf5HN)
*polite applause*
You earned that gold-plated diamond-studded pogo stick.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:20 PM (hLRSq)
That they ignore. Rinse repeat
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:20 PM (zOTsN)
This goes beyond tin ear. Maybe... steel ear.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 02:52 PM (
Blockhead Jeb.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:20 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Yeah - that one was beyond uncalled for...
Possibly the worst thing ever scratched onto wax.
I'll remember this, and somehow, some day, return the favor.
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (lDfK8)
Only 59% support the Rule Of Law and the notion of the nation-state.
I don't find this particularly encouraging.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (zc3Db)
That shouldn't be necessary. They can start rounding up in front of the home depot, move on to the welfare office, and finish up outside Hector's mother's bedroom window.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Lea at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (lIU4e)
Well, I guess that's my point though. Who is really being treated like a second class non-citizen in this arrangement?
I'm the one who has to work my ass off to pay for everything. And I have to follow a million laws, regulations, environmental impact studies, engineering reports, all kinds of bills and utilities and bullshit...
while the "second class non-citizens" all live in the black /grey / government benefit market and don't have to worry about any of that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (AkOaV)
different departments when attempting to remodel their own house but the
house down the street with 25 people living there and with bootlegged
wiring from the electrical lines and cable is never bothered at all."
I got a look inside one of those houses, after the local authorities finally got tired of the complaints from all of the rest of the neighbors about noise and crime, and evicted the illegals. It was insane inside. An insect hive. If insects tolerated horrible filth, that is.
As for the bootlegged wiring, a PGE lineman told me that they typically do pay a power bill, cause the utility can spot pirated power drains and will come disconnect the service at the mast. So instead the illegals will have a sympathetic someone sign up for the massively discounted "Lifeline" program that's supposed to provide a little bit of flat-rate baseline gas and electricity for the genuinely needy. They then proceed to use enormous amounts of that energy.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (zSvKA)
Does he have a plethora of pinatas?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (2Ojst)
Me too, but as we have cops who seem to want to break doors down I'd rather they focus on illegal aliens. With 30 or 40 or whatever million of them around, that should keep the cops busy for a while.
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 03:22 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:22 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:22 PM (DsveK)
Yes Jeb, attack Trump, it's your only chance. Spend your money, and focus Trump's retributive personality against you. Make this about who is more liberal Jeb or Trump. Oh please. Please please please.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 01, 2015 03:23 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:23 PM (DsveK)
Oh, it's so much worse than that.
Let's look at DWIs for example. If you're an american citizen or green card holder who gets caught drinking and driving, your ass is in for a world of hurt.
Illegal? Oh you have no ID? Have a nice day.
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:24 PM (bYGAR)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 01, 2015 03:24 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Mike at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (bZwzw)
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.Hell, there are houses in Montville Connecticut where I used to live that have 30-40 Illegal Chinese living in them. They work(ed) for the Mohegan Sun Casino and overstayed their B1 or whatever VISA. Every once in awhile the Town would find the flop houses because the sewer backed up or someone in the neighborhood complained.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (iONHu)
192 You can't do the no more benefits thing because their kids are citizens and thus eligible for anything and everything
There's the rub
Posted by: MAx at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (NOIQH)
Add to that 50% levy on remittances overseas. Recapture some of what we've been bleeding out.
And of course, you need probable cause for the raids. But there need to be raids. High profile.
Oh yeah, your municipality or state gives licenses to illegals? Eff you, no federal highway funds. Oh, sanctuary cities? No fed funds at all.
Time to make their lives hell.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (9krrF)
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AAAAARRGH! !!
I just got that out of my head 10 minutes ago...
I hate you!
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Don't you want somebody to love?
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (hKMJy)
It's one of those issues that the silent majority craves and all it takes is someone with the balls to speak up before it becomes a preference cascade.
Newt Gingrich decides to run on it and the Democrat President is forced to sign major reform because the public was so fed up.
But you need that first person to say something and run on it. Thank Trump.
Posted by: Coolio at September 01, 2015 03:25 PM (80fTb)
those houses and apartments stuffed with illegals. You got 20 of em
living next door to you? Call the cops. Cops spend about 5 minutes and
it'll be obvious, bye bye house full of illegals.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:16 PM
I read some fool saying if the illegal aliens were all deported overnight it would collapse the real estate market. It would mean rents and prices in CA and some other places would go down! Maybe Texas and Arizona too! I thought good! Excellent! Section 8 has an excess budget. Young people can start moving into their own digs. Starter homes feasible again. How horrible! Not. Idiots sound like idiots.
Posted by: Lester at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (oDCMR)
Which is a little bit like watching Nacho Libre pick a fight with Ronda Rousey.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (O7MnT)
with about 10 kids in tow paying for the most unhealthy snack food
possible at the grocery store with their EBT cards (their kids are us
citizens and get SNAP benefits, after all) then driving off in an
uninsured car that's nicer than mine."
Meanwhile, the Ad Council runs lachrymose radio spots telling us about how "one in four children in America suffers food insecurity".
Wait, what? Forty-six million food stamp recipients? Highest per capita level of food stamp benefits in history, which has stayed at a peak for longer than ever before in history? Public schools now serving not only free lunches but free breakfasts, and doing so even when school isn't in session? And there's STILL ostensibly child hunger all over the place? I call bullshit.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (noWW6)
80 to 80% of the Latin population are citizens of legal residents. Even if you deport all the illegals, the Latino population would not shrink much and will continue to grow.
What will conservatives want to do next? Will you accept the fact a large segment of the population is Latin or will the next step he stripping Latinos of their citizenship to reduce the population.
Please give me an honest answer.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (tbIgT)
Did he actually say that?
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (4rzL1)
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:24 PM (bYGAR)
Right. They'll impound the $500 unregistered uninspected uninsured car, take the fake name the illegal gives them, set bail at $5000 then the guy comes up with $500 for the bail bondsman and disappears and everyone shrugs.
Where if I got a DUI, it would be a mega major pain in the ass possibly life-changing event. (I drive a lot as part of my job, for example. I don't think my company would be cool with me driving their car if I have a DUI on my record. And that's after the automatic 6 month license suspension)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)
I'm the one who has to work my ass off to pay for everything. And I have to follow a million laws, regulations, environmental impact studies, engineering reports, all kinds of bills and utilities and bullshit...
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:21 PM (AkOaV)
Yep. In this nation, citizenship is nothing but a burden. There is no advantage to being a citizen in this country. In fact, as you say, the mark of citizenship only allows the government to steal from you in order to support all those who live with the safety of not being citizens and, therefore, being beyond the law (and outside of any jurisdiction).
The Founders would have had no problem in dealing with people who spit all over the very concept of the nation-state.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: King Barry of the Gilded Putter at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (UzPAd)
If I had a number of them around me I would be a little nervous dropping the dime on them.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:18 PM (OLNwX)
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But that's not happening. If you do that today? Even if the local cops wanted to do something, ICE wouldn't do it and then La Raza would go full giant papier mache puppet heads on the local cops.
That's why the rage and frustration. That's why it's fuck it deport them all.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (mf5HN)
I'm discussing a solution to the problem. Policies I would implement if I were in charge. I figured it went without saying that having an administration and agency that actually enforced said policies/the law was necessary.
My suggestions assume that, you know, the suggestions would actually be enforced.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (gW5Vg)
The illegals aren't technically the ones getting all the benefits. It's their children. That's why we absolutely MUST end the anchor baby nonsense.
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (bYGAR)
While I actually have to, you know, work. And pay for my food. And hers too. And probably paid for that iPhone and the rims on her Escalade too.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:19 PM (AkOaV)
Nothing like the first of the month in line to check out at HEB and deciding to go with the generic Cheetos to save a few bucks when you look up and see a lady with 5 kids and three baskets full talking in Spanish about which cut of beef is best before whipping out the lone star card to just piss you off.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (t06LC)
Did he actually say that?
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (4rzL1)
Unclear, but probably not.
It was kind a of a cross-speak moment with the question / answer.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (AkOaV)
A classic rant! That is some fine writing there, better than most of the crap put out there every day. (I don't mean here, I mean "out there."
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (WjXce)
Well, they aren't really citizens, but the government currently gets away with pretending they are.
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (ZbV+0)
Another 'ron pointed out that it would also collapse the LA unified school district.
And that's when you start to understand why so many people are opposed to it...
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: David at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (iRZGs)
How do you know they are not resident? How do you know it's a snap card and not a debit card?
Why do you assume any Spanish speaker is illegal?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (tbIgT)
I'm failing to see the problem here.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (2Ojst)
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Take all their assets as a penalty, dump them bare ass naked in Mexico, and use the proceeds to fund a bounty.
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (OlS7T)
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (bYGAR)
It might have been workable and tolerable at that time.
Now? Non-starter.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (9krrF)
Did he actually say that?
No. IIRC He was speaking of border security in general, and said increasing security on the Canadian border should also be under discussion. The media distorted it into "Scott Walker wants to build a wall on the Canadian border."
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (O7MnT)
Why do you hate Escalades?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (8ZskC)
Alright, I'm going to need a ruling here. Is this an actual troll that we can be mean to? Or does that risk bannination?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (gW5Vg)
Only a problem for politicians beholden to teachers unions.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (tbIgT)
How about you ask an honest question first, McKinley.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (2Ojst)
I think there is a helluva lot we have not been told as to why Benedict stepped down.
I suspect that Francis and his liberal allies in European governments dug something up on Benedict. Or straight out framed him.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (4AVeu)
You are putting up a straw man. It's not that they are Latino, it is that they are illegal.
And, by the way, you are a dickweed.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (WjXce)
no, they are first class citizens ... of another country. They are foreign nationals here. But they must all be ID'd, pay taxes even on those lawn/nanny jobs. Keep them off our social security ... they'd be better off saving for their own anyway. And no welfare ... if they have an employer that claims they really need them (pickers), then the employer can handle their welfare cost.
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (6zZ5y)
This is basically true. I've seen it in court. Made me wish I had a bottle of spray tan and sombrero.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (TULs6)
We know where they live before we know where they work
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (zOTsN)
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They thought the question was about Martians.
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (OlS7T)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (tbIgT)
You obviously don't live and work with them day to day. It doesn't matter. They are going to vote for whoever gives them handouts because they come from primarily socialist countries and that's the way it is. It eventually may change, but I guarantee you full blown amnesty will not help the republicans break 40% of the made up Latino metric vote.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (t06LC)
Did he actually say that?
.
.
.No he did not.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (iONHu)
The Founders would have had no problem in dealing with people who spit all over the very concept of the nation-state.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 01, 2015 03:26 PM (zc3Db)
Yeah, and when I worked as a carpenter to help pay my way through college, I was one of 3 legal workers (other than my boss) in a company of around 35 people.
I got paid the same hourly wage as everyone else. Except I had to pay taxes, and my boss would cut me off at 39 hours (no OT).
So really I made a lot less take home then all of the illegals did. Oh, and plus I had my living expenses to worry about, where none of them paid for car registration / insurance / drivers license / etc. etc. They all drove on fake /expired tags and used "international drivers licenses" which were usually not issued in the same name they used at work.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (AkOaV)
Yet, Japan has opted to build robots instead of importing cheap labor, and they seem to be doing fine.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (O7MnT)
Ah. One of the annoying Serbian's classic tells. Piss off, Hector.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Nate in NOLA at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (lhX9P)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: David at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (iRZGs)
All heart at that age.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (hLRSq)
Alright, I'm going to need a ruling here. Is this an actual troll that we can be mean to? Or does that risk bannination?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (gW5Vg)
It's Hector, so you may fire at will, Gridley.
Posted by: joncelli Airplane at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (RD7QR)
Please give me an honest answer.
Honest answer: Regardless of whether your assertions and assumptions are true, your question is irrelevant to the issue at hand.
Shorter honest answer: FYNQ.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (9krrF)
We know where they live before we know where they work
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:30 PM (zOTsN)
Come again?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (gW5Vg)
What will you do next?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (tbIgT)
59% of Americans own their own lawnmowers?
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (wAQA5)
"I'm failing to see the problem here."
That was me, and - I'm not exagerating here - 84,000 unionized LAUSD employees crying about their lost, overpaid jobs would hurt my feelings not one damn bit.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (iIzG7)
"Citizens of legal residents"? WTF does that mean? Did you get your bullshit numbers from the Big Book of Gibberish Statistics?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (8ZskC)
Are you saying if Trump is elected I will be able to afford a house?
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (TULs6)
I don't find this particularly encouraging.
There are plenty of ways to punnish a misdamenor that doesn't include as a default sending someone out of the country. I am personally surprised that such a majority is on board with the gravity of madatory deportation.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: joncelli Airplane at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (RD7QR)
59% of Americans own their own lawnmowers?
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (wAQA5)
They do? I thought slavery was illegal, even if they are "undocumented."
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:33 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: joncelli Airplane at September 01, 2015 03:31 PM (RD7QR)
Roger, Roger.
Although I've seen multiple folks already fire off the FYNQ, and that's really all that needs to be said to some pissant troll.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:33 PM (gW5Vg)
Posted by: MAx at September 01, 2015 03:33 PM (LAliD)
There you go, bringing up the undeniable facts again.
Everyone here hates brown people. If we are brown, we hate ourselves.
I don't know if you are brown, but I think I hate you anyway.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at September 01, 2015 03:34 PM (WjXce)
80 to 80% of the Latin population are citizens of legal residents.
Posted by: Mr. Denali
Cite for the number plz.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 01, 2015 03:34 PM (kdS6q)
In the spirit of the new rules, I'll answer you:
We don't care about race. We don't care that there are people here legally who are Mexican, or Honduran, or Cuban, or whatever. Indeed, it's the people who are assuming that *only* Hispanics can be here illegally. Already in this thread we've mentioned the Asian community (the other visible offender), and people overstaying education or H1B visas (hint: the vast majority of illegals from the south didn't get here on education or H1B visas in the first place, so that can't be primarily aimed at Hispanics).
What we care about is enforcing the law. People who come here legally have to play by the same rules we do. They have to get their cars inspected, they have to buy their various permits and tax stickers. They really do live in fear of deportation every day - don't be here on an H1B and get pulled over for drunk driving.
People who come here legally are paid salaries on par (or a little below, but not as insane as illegals) with the rest of us, so they're not dragging down wages (or- not as much).
People who come here legally are required to have some amount of financial security, so they're not huge drains (as a rule) on welfare.
People who come here legally typically have a decent amount of education themselves; they are relatively healthy and disease free. This means they are less disruptive to our public schools.
People who come here legally are (by definition) more law abiding than illegals. This means they are less likely to commit other crimes such as identity theft and fraud; not to mention rape, murder, drug running, etc.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:34 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2015 03:22 PM (zSvKA)
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And guess what. The advertisement before the video is in spanish.
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 03:34 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (O+0DS)
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (O7MnT)
Part of the reason the DOE wants the general public dumbed down so that they don't know about all of these 'troublesome' facts of history.
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Mikey NTH
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Gold Lamé trampoline fabric.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (9mTYi)
The constituency that wants illegals to remain in the country consists predominately of 1) illegals and their families 2) Democrats hoping to import new voters because they are sick and tired of the old ones not doing what they want 3) chamber of commerce republicans that are tired of fighting the regulatory state and hope to import cheap workers, unregulated workers, instead.
All together, yeah, that is about 30% of the population.
Now, if the Repubs were smart, they would pit unemployed black Americans straight up against illegals who take their jobs and suppress their wages. But they are not smart.
Posted by: Geroge Orwell's ghost at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (dEwvU)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (tbIgT)
Laugh at you, you pathetic little man.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (hLRSq)
Nobody wants to strip latinos you bizarre fool! We will strip the latinas.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:07 PM (DsveK)
And they were so traumatized from the experience that they became Nazis.
See how that worked out?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (tbIgT)
Guess what, fuckface? Half my family is Mexican. Guess what? They all want the illegals to GTFO.
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (bYGAR)
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (HstNY)
Tell you to fuck the fuck off.
When did 12% of the population become large?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (LUgeY)
You will find them by neighborhood. Ask the police. They know
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (oDCMR)
Why do you assume any Spanish speaker is illegal?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:28 PM (tbIgT)
Because SNAP cards in my state are a weird grey color with the state logo on them and you have the press the big "EBT" button on the credit card swiper. And because anyone who buys all non-alcoholic and non-prepared food on one card, then pays for the booze and prepared food on another is most likely using SNAP.
As for spanish speaking = illegal? Well, I suppose you got me there. I don't know for sure, but when I hear a Guatemalan or Mexican accent, I can make a fairly reasonable assumption in my part of the country.
And most of the legal immigrants I know have learned English and don't need an interpreter to buy groceries. Although I suppose that theoretically there may be some green card holding Guatemalans who don't speak any English at all. I'd love to see the numbers on that though.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (AkOaV)
My suggestions assume that, you know, the suggestions would actually be enforced.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:27 PM (gW5Vg)
If the law was enforced, we wouldn't be here.
*clambers up on soapbox*
Dude. 1986 was not that long ago. I mean, I know it seems like it was, but it wasn't, not really.
I am beyond sick and tired of those on the more pro-amnesty side acting all shocked and stunned that the populace thinks that representations made about how if there's amnesty then this time, this time, pinky swear, there will be border enforcement.
How many times have laws been passed and promptly ignored? How many times have politicians said no, totes for realies this time, promise, promise, promise soooo going to enforce first and then, then, by gosh, we'll help those poor innocent kids whose parents hauled them here.
Every. Single. Bit. Of. Empirical. Evidence. Says. Border. Enforcement. Won't. Happen.
Yet people seem shocked and stunned that people are believing their own lying eyes.
But I'm the cray.
Sure, fine, whatever hands.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (mf5HN)
It's Hector, but I figured I'd give him one shot not to be a dipshit troll before we dropped the hammer.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (kff5f)
You bigots....
Posted by: Mr. Denali
Sorry. Please cancel that request for a cite. Gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought you might not be a troll.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:36 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Chris M at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (k3w9p)
It might have been workable and tolerable at that time.
Now? Non-starter.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 01, 2015 03:29 PM (9krrF)
Well yeah. It's a mess now. Because we've stopped enforcing any laws. And it's pissing people off.
Also for hector (or whoever), the Mexican citizens I know have jobs and are conservative.
Posted by: Lea at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (eEBON)
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (oDCMR)
Violating our sovereignty is not a misdemeanor. It is about the worst crime that one can commit against a nation-state. Further, this is not just about one or two people skipping across the border or refusing to leave but an invasion of tens of millions - which is the actual worst crime that can be committed against a nation-state.
There's a reason the pre-amble to the Constitution reads:
"secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and to our Posterity"
and not "to everyone in the world".
There is no recourse other than deporting them.
I am personally surprised that such a majority is on board with the gravity of madatory deportation.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (0q2P7)
Like I said, I find the low number distressing. I'm not saying that I'm surprised but distressed, all the same.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 01, 2015 03:37 PM (/Ho8c)
.......they said they'd get back to us.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (SGnC0)
Thanks for your answer. You are saying that the 80 to 85% of Hispanics who are legal have nothing to worry about?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (DsveK)
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (ZbV+0)
Hey, look, man
I am one of those hated racist knuckle daggers. Really, I am - just ask my girlfriend.
Make you a deal - we'll keep all the illegals and put them to work, house, feed and clothe them if you & your kind agree to emigrate to Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, etc...
Deal?
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (lDfK8)
Heretofore growing up in Southern California, I was told that only Mexican illegal immigrants could do this work as no one else would. They lied to me? Imagine!
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (oiNtH)
I am beyond sick and tired of those on the more pro-amnesty side acting all shocked and stunned that the populace thinks that representations made about how if there's amnesty then this time, this time, pinky swear, there will be border enforcement.
Thank you. Why The HELL does no one ever tell these idiots that we did amnesty already and it didn't do shit? Why isn't that the response EVERY time somebody goes off about it?
I seriously don't get it. If trump starts saying this, I might even fcuking vote for him.
Posted by: Lea at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (lIU4e)
(quietly)I was 6.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (DsveK)
Posted by: Mr. Denali
80 to 80%. That's a pretty large margin of error, dumbshit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale
*glares at the infant*
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (/Ho8c)
(Implied are the yellow triangles that had to be displayed on the clothes of half-Jewish people in Nazi-occupied European countries - except in this case, it represents a tortilla chip.)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (PovUI)
Raid a business. Catch one illegal. Forfeit the business.
If they can take a john's car for hiring a hooker, they can take a business for hiring an illegal.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (O+0DS)
Let us say illegals are removed. Yet you still hear people speaking Spanish. What will you want to happen next?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (0q2P7)
It's not just the misdemeanor. Its the crimes that must follow after. Ever been in an auto accident with an illegal? I have. It was their fault but guess who paid for everything. I've had a ranch house burned down by illegals coming through, and had to fix more fences than I can count. Come down to the border. Deal with what we have to every day. Brown, yellow, green I really don't give a shit. We the citizens have to deal with all the crap they leave behind. It used to be different. But I can tell you times have changed and less are here to work, and more are here to game the system. I won't even touch on the crime from drugs and gangs. One crime by someone who has no right to be here is one too many.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: biancaneve at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (kBiy2)
Posted by: joncelli Airplane at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (RD7QR)
What will you do next?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:32 PM (tbIgT)
That's not a problem. People who go through the ungodly amount of hassle that it takes to legally come to this country are typically very motivated to become Americans, and we're glad to have them.
We've always been a very welcoming country to people of all backgrounds.
That is not now, nor has ever been, the issue.
but when you see someone using SNAP, you know they're not a green card holder (since you are ineligible for SNAP benefits as a green card holder, and if your kids go on welfare, that could hurt your ability to become a citizen). So that means either citizen or illegal.
Now most citizens of the US speak at least passable English. The ones who speak no English are typically neither citizens nor green card holders.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mr. Denali
The 13th Amendment prohibits this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AllenG
______________________________
Sigh...I was already married for two years. I'm so old that I could be Vic's great grandson.
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (eEBON)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:38 PM (tbIgT)
Just the same worries of all of the other people who find themselves competing for work with the illegals, you silly little man.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (/Ho8c)
But what would the number be if the media told the truth about immigrant crime and the economic impact of this immigration?
This is ignored because to notice it would harm the SJW narrative.
Posted by: baldur5 at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (VtK0e)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (iONHu)
How long have we been without hope?
for fuck's sake, pretty much every candidate is telling us that they can't do shit, it's open borders and amnesty.
Even if you don't believe the guy, at least Trump has the fucking decency to lie to us.
And for that he has my support. Trump/Cruz 2016.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (q5APL)
Let us say illegals are removed. Yet you still hear people speaking Spanish. What will you want to happen next?
Posted by: Mr. Denali
You bigots....
Posted by: Mr. Denali
Ban plz.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2015 03:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)
I turned 5 that summer.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (gW5Vg)
I will ask them to pretty please form a mariachi outlaw country band for my enjoyment.
Posted by: Lauren at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (LzzEz)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (8ZskC)
La Cucarocha.
But I would settle for La Rumba Flamenca too.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (oDCMR)
Nope that is a fact. 80 to 85% are legal.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (tbIgT)
Let us say illegals are removed. Yet you still hear people speaking Spanish. What will you want to happen next?
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (tbIgT)
Nothing. Well, for their sakes, I hope they learn English, it will help them a lot to speak the language that 99% of the citizens of the country they live in speak.
But I speak enough Spanish that I can have a conversation in Spanish. Same with French and the Quebecois.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (AkOaV)
Youn 'uns REPRESENT!
*knuckle-bump*
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (kff5f)
You *cannot* have a conversation with a liar, you can only fight them. The sheer volume of lies is not just exhausting but destructive of civilization.
It seems every year I grow less tolerant of grandiose lies in service of controlling political conversations.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
If it's not Scottish...it's crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraap!
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (/Ho8c)
Nah it's Jorge Vamos. Errr... Ramos... no I meant vamos.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (TULs6)
In 1959, more than that supported "Separate but Equal".
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (Kpl3J)
Raid a business. Catch one illegal. Forfeit the business.
If they can take a john's car for hiring a hooker, they can take a business for hiring an illegal.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2015 03:40 PM (O+0DS)
Someone proposed allowing a cause of action for illegal hiring practices by those who hire illegals. Let the trial lawyers take care of the problem.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (t06LC)
In theory and on paper that looks good Brother. However, as we have seen the 10th Amendment completely flushed down the toilet, speed limits, drinking ages, etc, I don't ever see it being implemented.
Several folks have mentioned great ideas to make it difficult if not impossible for them to stay. However, if we can't cut PBS from the budget, a fucking TV station, do you see it happening with living, breathing folks? No I don't.
Eventually math, money, debt, illegals, SCOTUS justices will do us in. No if but when.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:44 PM (OLNwX)
For them to learn English and assimilate with the American Culture.
But keep making tasty, tasty Mexican food. Because it's tasty.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:44 PM (kff5f)
You bigots....
Posted by: Mr. Denali
New Banning Policy: Stop with the Personal Attacks Based on Nothing More Than Disagreement With Someone's Position, or Your Ass Will be Permanently Banned
Ban plz.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 01, 2015 03:44 PM (kdS6q)
Nope that is a fact. 80 to 85% are legal.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (tbIgT)
Ha! How do you figure?
Let's settle on a compromise number for illegal immigrants -- let's say 20 million (which is probably low).
So that means there are how many hundreds of million legal spanish speakers in the country?
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Methos believes in free will(ow) at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (ZbV+0)
Conservatives assume most Hispanics are illegals. They use this issue to bash Hispanics.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)
Do me a favor? Can you serpentine for awhile? The Ravage needs some extra exercise.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:43 PM (t06LC)
But they are the problem. No offense Moron attorneys.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (OLNwX)
UNPOZZIBULL !1!1!
TRUMPHITLER !1!!!1
RAZISTHADERS !1!!1 1111BROWNSSHIRT TRUMPIODS LEADING ALIENS TO BOXCARS !1!1!!!
Posted by: Sip Nip - Perfectly Acceptable AOS commenter at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (e8ge6)
A Hector.
He's a welcome 1st test of ignore_user after a re-install.
Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (DL2i+)
*Even when ATC gets up on her soapbox, she's still about 5 foot nothin', but full of pissed & vinegar.
*Allen G is just a kid
*Jefferson Airplane still gives me headaches - even just thinking about that lame music makes me mad...
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (zOTsN)
(quietly)I was 6.
I was 24 and had done 4 years in prison. (Guard)
Offin' the lawn.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (O+0DS)
In 1959, more than that supported "Separate but Equal".
Posted by: Tom Servo
OK. And?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
Deportation is fine with me. Each tax paying citizen of the US pays around, oh, $10K per year to house, provide free health care, educate and give three squares in prison for illegals. This vs helping our own who cannot work (including our veterans), are mentally ill, and our elderly.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (mOmt+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (TJCSB)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:42 PM (tbIgT)
For the record, 85% of 12% is 10.2%
I'm not terribly worried about 10% of the population, when it comes down to it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (kff5f)
Awwwwww. Isn't it cute the way it changes its name but doesn't change the contents of the package?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Aghast of Events at the Outrage Outlet! at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 01, 2015 03:28 PMw
The illegal alien support industry would collapse. Bi-lingual education is a racket in Texas. It sucks up way too much money. Walmart, HEB and the tortilla factories other food markets making pay off the welfare food cards, all of the employers who pay cheap wages but pass the social costs of their employees off on the taxpayers, etc. That is why they say "you can't do that!"
Posted by: Lester at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (2UPXV)
I hope they win and set a precedent for others who have lost loved ones at the hands of non-citizens.
Of course, Hector Denali is A-Okay with a few murders, rapes, and child molestations in the name of 'diversity'. Fuck off troll.
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 03:47 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: prescient11 at September 01, 2015 03:47 PM (q5APL)
There are not 20 million illegals. That's a conservative fantasy. You assume any Spanish speaker is illegal. Hence you want mass deportations on the assumption that it will reduce the Hispanic population.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:47 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (oVJmc)
In 1959, more than that supported "Separate but Equal".
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Were those internet polls?
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (eEBON)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 01, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)
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What? Is that you standing on my lawn, Allen?
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (P25Hh)
No, not at all. If you live around Hispanics (which I do) you can pretty easily tell the illegals from the legals.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at September 01, 2015 03:46 PM (mf5HN)
Careful on that ladder. You know how you are about falling.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Lion Lives Matter at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (gW5Vg)
1. No EBT.
2. No WIC.
3. No Medicaid.
4. No free school, free school lunches, free school breakfasts...
5. No Section 8.
6. No Earned Income Credit.
7. No government benefits if not legal.
That will clear the country out in less than 6 months. Also Eisenhower had Operation Wetback and deported millions, so it can be done the hard way too.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (f+6Pd)
Er, 11 million, that is.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Manuel Labor at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (wAQA5)
Dey terk er jerbs! back to Mexico with them.....
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 01, 2015 03:49 PM (PovUI)
Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2015 03:49 PM (DL2i+)
*Even when ATC gets up on her soapbox, she's still about 5 foot nothin', but full of pissed & vinegar.
*Allen G is just a kid
*Jefferson Airplane still gives me headaches - even just thinking about that lame music makes me mad...
Posted by: Chi at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (lDfK8
Hmmm so what you are trying to say is we can be together? Or you are just looking for someone to love?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 01, 2015 03:50 PM (OLNwX)
No one. And I mean no one.
Rounded up all the illegal aliens and shipped them to the US.
The illegals came all by themselves.
Make laws that make it illegal to employ illegal aliens with heavy penalties for the employer.
Make automatic deportation with the seizing of the illegals assets to pay for their deportation and use of SNAP cards etc. the law of the land.
Then see how quickly all of those people suddenly find a way to go home all by themselves.
If you're here legally, if you've jumped thru all the hoops and waited your turn-
come on in the water's fine.
If you're here illegally, go home.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2015 03:51 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:47 PM (tbIgT)
Well then you tell us how many there are and what methodology you used to discover that.
Because the census people guess its around 11 million, polling says 20 million, entry / exit numbers suggest 40-50 million.
So a very wide range of numbers.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:51 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 01, 2015 03:51 PM (oUdVS)
Hispanics are 17% of the population. Removing illegals would get it down to the 13 to 14% range. Due to births and intermarriage the Hispanic number will still grow. If this does not bother you then great and thanks for your answer.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:52 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 01, 2015 03:52 PM (Edob3)
I am sure it would work. I am also sure they won't stop until the Chinese stop giving us money to support our welfare system.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:53 PM (O7MnT)
The CoC may deserve this but it isn't necessary. Just the disruption of the raid and rehiring costs would quickly be noticed.
Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2015 03:53 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:48 PM (t06LC)
Yeah, I lived in a mostly Spanish neighborhood for about 8 years. It was not difficult to tell the difference.
And I don't even blame the people who came here illegally, most of whom are nice people and were good neighbors to me. I blame the government for setting up this fucked up incentive system. I remember talking to my upstairs neighbor about why he came here illegally and he basically said, 'well, why not? your government makes it so easy and there's money to be made."
His wife and kids lived in a mansion in El Salvador off his $18/hr income while he bunked up with a few other guys in an apartment in a 3-family house.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (AkOaV)
I was going by reputable studies.
Look be honest, you hate Latinos and believe that going after illegals will eliminate them since you assume they are all illegal.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (tbIgT)
Which, given the number comes from the Obama regime, is about as reliable as the numbers on employment, GDP growth, global warming, and the deficit.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (O7MnT)
Hispanics are 17% of the population. Removing illegals would get it down to the 13 to 14% range. Due to births and intermarriage the Hispanic number will still grow. If this does not bother you then great and thanks for your answer.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:52 PM (tbIgT)
Yes, but unlike yourself, I don't believe we're interested in some half ass eugenics. Really the Hispanic middle class legal family looks kinda like the normal American family. The illegals tend to have a large number of kids due to lack of education, help in manual labor, and of course, government bennies doled out on a per child basis.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:55 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 01, 2015 03:52 PM (Edob3)
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No. It means if you're here in this country illegally, you have to go......one way or the other.
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 03:55 PM (P25Hh)
Conservatives assume most Hispanics are illegals. They use this issue to bash Hispanics.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:45 PM (tbIgT)
So, as to not offend your tender sensibilities, we should keep our policies off the illegals? GFY.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at September 01, 2015 03:55 PM (Edob3)
But on Cesar Chavez day while the LIV's make their toasts to Chavez, you will never hear acknowledge this piece of important history. Certainly our resident troll doesn't know this.
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 03:55 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:56 PM (oVJmc)
The problem at the core of the illegal immigration issue is corruption, unaccountable spending, and false promises, all of which require further papering over. With greenbacks. Just like every other leftist trainwreck. Starve the fucking beast. It's the only way out.
Now how to bait the hook to get millenials onboard. Is it possible the fisting they're taking at the hands of their alma maters could provoke exactly the circumspection we need from this (my) generation? Even in the face of what are seemingly quite firmly entrenched leftist racial attitudes?
That's one of the most fascinating things about Trump to me. Every other high profile Republican pisses their pants at the idea of being called a racist. He tackled that FIRST. For some reason, he's bulletproof when it comes to accusations of racism. And it's exposing the cracks in the leftist coalition, not least the fact that the "other" minorities are realizing that blacks have primacy in said coalition. Interesting, that.
Immigration is NOT a racial issue at its core. I know that doesn't dull the knives of the Zetas, but we have to fight the left's ideas as well as their grunts. Don't get stuck on the wall.
One last thing...the real thorn in this issue to me is, what is our intelligence communtiy's devil's pact with the cartels? Did we really get bought in the 80s? That's a thread I confess I'm too frightened to pull on.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at September 01, 2015 03:56 PM (xuouz)
you hate Latinos and believe that going after illegals will eliminate them since you assume they are all illegal. Hector - September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (tbIgT)
That didn't take long.
Posted by: V the K at September 01, 2015 03:56 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:52 PM (tbIgT)
See, the problem is -- none of those numbers are accurate. And what the FUCK is a "hispanic?"
Go ask your Spanish friends if they know any hispanics and they'll look at your like you're an idiot. No one identifies as a "hispanic" unless prompted. It's not a real thing.
Unlike racist white liberals living in the gated communities in the 'burbs, those of us who live in mixed race neighborhoods know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and Argentines and Brazilians are all very different people. It'd be like saying "well, EurAsians are 82% of the population."
It's silly.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 03:57 PM (AkOaV)
You support the welfare state then. That makes you a Leftist then.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:57 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 03:55 PM (P25Hh)
Yes, but the door-to-door shit isn't necessary to enforce it.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at September 01, 2015 03:57 PM (Edob3)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (tbIgT)
No, asshole, I do indeed not hate latinos and have many close friends who indeed are. My first name is Spanish in fact. I think we just believe that maybe there should be something to the concept of nation state and that one cannot simultaneously have open borders and welfare programs.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 01, 2015 03:58 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 03:59 PM (oVJmc)
Just busted you in a blue. I'm married to a Mexican and where I live there are other types of Hispanics. Guess what they get along and view each other as family.
You don't live anywhere near any Hispanic.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:59 PM (tbIgT)
It keeps itself busy until it hears mom's car in the driveway and hurriedly gets off her laptop and back down to its room in the basement.
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 04:00 PM (oiNtH)
I was going by reputable studies.
Look be honest, you hate Latinos and believe that going after illegals will eliminate them since you assume they are all illegal.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:54 PM (tbIgT)
Cite your reputable stats.
Also, that's a very silly assertion to make. You do not know me at all and have no way of knowing how I feel about "latinos" (which again is another made up term, and is not inclusive of all spanish or portugese speaking people).
And what possible reason would I have for hating latinos?
I don't get this at all -- it'd be like saying "oh you're against mafia activity? It's because you hate all Europeans!!!! BECAUSE ITALY IS IN EUROPE AND ITALIANS ARE IN THE MAFIA!!! RACIST!!!!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 04:00 PM (AkOaV)
It's silly.
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Maybe not so silly. EurAsians pretty much excludes Africans and Antarcticans, so I'm seeing some magic in EurAsians as a political device.
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 04:01 PM (oDCMR)
I was not addressing you.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 04:01 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at September 01, 2015 03:57 PM (Edob3)
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For some, it will be.
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 04:01 PM (P25Hh)
If you're gonna have a politeness policy,
then how's about enforcing it against Hector?
No reason why we have to tolerate his psychotic diarrhea in this or any other thread.
Oh, banhammer! Where is thy sting?
Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2015 04:02 PM (0cMkb)
The fact you assume most Hispanics are illegals shows your bigotry.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 04:02 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at September 01, 2015 04:03 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at September 01, 2015 04:03 PM (VBbCO)
I'm sure to a psychiatrist that's interesting, but to everyone else it's tedious and childish, *at best*.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bLnSU)
Adios
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 04:04 PM (oiNtH)
You don't live anywhere near any Hispanic.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:59 PM (tbIgT)
Huh?
Again, how could you possibly know where I live and have lived?
And if you're trying to tell me that Mexicans don't dislike El Salvadorians and Guatemalans and that Argentines don't look down on, well, everyone and that Brazilians don't like Venezuelans etc etc etc and that they're all VERY different cultures with different histories and are not some monolithic bloc of "HISPANICS" or whatnot...
I don't know what to say to you.
In fact, I'm done wasting my time talking to a troll.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 04:04 PM (AkOaV)
Uh, Hector, you special ed case, your initial effluvia today assumed the same thing.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 01, 2015 04:04 PM (oVJmc)
Great analysis and agree with your sentiments.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 04:04 PM (tbIgT)
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 03:59 PM (tbIgT)
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I don't believe you.
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 04:05 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Illiniwek at September 01, 2015 04:06 PM (6zZ5y)
Oh my god it is Jeb Bush.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 04:06 PM (TULs6)
No one does, because
a) Hispanic is a made up term, and many "hispanics" identify as "white," since they are -- you know -- descendants of Spanish and Portugese, who are Europeans, and thus "white".
b) No one knows how many illegals there are, because as we are constantly told "they are in the shadows" and we have no way to count them beyond polls and census numbers, which are both incredibly inaccurate due to selection bias.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 01, 2015 04:06 PM (AkOaV)
You mentioned silly little rivalries among family members. They view themselves as family and part of La Hispanidad. The fact you do not know that term shows me you are lying.
To put your white hooded sheets back on.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 04:07 PM (tbIgT)
Can't be. He's written at least 20 lines and has not once broken into Spanish.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at September 01, 2015 04:08 PM (VBbCO)
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 04:08 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: Soona at September 01, 2015 04:01 PM (P25Hh)
We'll cross that bridge if we get there. I see Mandatory Deportation exercised like a bench warrant - not exercised until you're caught doing something else. That'll get the worst - like the SF shooter - off the streets ASAP and hopefully before they graduate to serious crimes. Everyone else can toe the line or leave on their own.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at September 01, 2015 04:08 PM (Edob3)
Hispanic is a cultural and linguistic term. It is not racial. A Hispanic can be white or non white.
Posted by: Mr. Denali at September 01, 2015 04:08 PM (tbIgT)
Our basement dweller just keeps making shit up and hurling accusations.
Tedious and dumb.
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 04:09 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 01, 2015 04:11 PM (PovUI)
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 04:14 PM (oDCMR)
And then build a giant wall around Eurasia.
Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 01, 2015 04:17 PM (TULs6)
The government is more than willing to send a SWAT team to kick in my door, shoot my dog and arrest me if they think I might have $50 worth of weed inside. If I owe Uncle Sammy two grand in back taxes, Sammy is more than happy to seize my bank account and garnish my wages. Oh, but immigration is different. Enforcing the law against them wouldn't be compassionate.
Posted by: Brewdog at September 01, 2015 04:18 PM (ZgUuK)
And then build a giant wall around Eurasia.
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Whatever happened to moats with gators? I liked that idea.
Posted by: Senor Yeb and the Mexican Crazy Train at September 01, 2015 04:19 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Cheri at September 01, 2015 04:09 PM
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If birthright citizenship is taken away, then only those people born here who accept the sovereignty of the United States of America get to enjoy citizenship. Then why don't we let these so-called "anchor babies" stay here until they're old enough to decide for themselves?
And what if a child refuses to accept U.S. sovereignty? You could tell easily enough by seeing who refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance in school - like Jehova's Witnesses. Should we deport them? Huh?? HUH?!?!?
Posted by: Bizarro FireHorse, pretend troll at September 01, 2015 04:21 PM (PovUI)
Posted by: Bizarro FireHorse, pretend troll (retired) at September 01, 2015 04:32 PM (bIRrV)
Posted by: Jorge Ramos at September 01, 2015 04:36 PM (6gR7l)
2) In Texas, place a wall-fence on the US side along the Rio Grande. Tailor it where the border cities are with no current walls.
3) Exec Order requiring use of e-Verify.
4) Exec Order requiring immediate deportation of criminal aliens.
5) Exec Order rescinding SCOAMTs EOs on immigration.
6) After the fence is completed and the border is controlled, offer $5,000 cash upon debarkation in their home country.
7) Exec Order forbidding sanctuary cities.
And some other things I haven't thought of yet.
Posted by: @scoamt at September 01, 2015 04:37 PM (As4IY)
Posted by: Drider at September 01, 2015 04:42 PM (6Xbsz)
I said, "I've never been a big Trump fan, but I think he's right about immigration." She nodded.
This is someone who voted for Obama twice.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at September 01, 2015 04:45 PM (u0lmX)
I love immigration as long as you sign up on the way in.
The others can go back home and do it the right way like Dad did.
Posted by: Jebbish at September 01, 2015 04:46 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 01, 2015 04:46 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: centralscrutinizer at September 01, 2015 05:06 PM (vI+F1)
Posted by: Ben H at September 01, 2015 05:53 PM (gJEsZ)
If you're not reading Scott Adams' blog, go check it out. He's not conservative really, but he has serious man crush on Trump's "wizard" level abilities of persuasion. I'm starting to think he is right.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/127479255236/trump-vs-bush-persuasion-wars
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/127604348746/trump-makes-univision-do-the-perp-walk
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/127158474091/anchors-away
Posted by: Doug at September 01, 2015 08:35 PM (twh5e)
this election is the last chance we have to save the country from total californication.
Posted by: Justfactualthings at September 01, 2015 10:08 PM (oCxXI)
52 Jeb - eres un perdador.
Hope I conjugated my verb correctly.
Posted by: duke at September 01, 2015 02:54 PM (mDxGf)
It's "es." Eres is second person singular, es is third person singular.
*
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I think Duke was addressing Jeb directly, so it was like "Jeb -- you're a loser." So "eres" would be right (especially as he was addressing Jeb informally, without respect!).
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