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Fresh Open Thread - [Niedermeyers Dead Horse]

I'm going blind from watching this over and over and...


and, which of you will try this at home?


I'm sure content will arrive shortly.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 04:18 PM




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1 Hmm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:21 PM (rwI+c)

2 You can sharpen my pencil anyday!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 29, 2015 04:21 PM (2XMpf)

3 Can not be.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at August 29, 2015 04:22 PM (gCeSe)

4
4th?

Posted by: GBruno at August 29, 2015 04:22 PM (u49WF)

5 It's uncanny how I can be outside working, come in and drink a beer, then sit down and be the first on a thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:22 PM (rwI+c)

6
My Grandfather always used his pocketknife.

Posted by: GBruno at August 29, 2015 04:23 PM (u49WF)

7 Hmm. Could the sharpening machine be used for cross-bow bolts? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Constable Charles d'Albret at August 29, 2015 04:25 PM (8ZskC)

8 Only RINO's use crossbows.

Posted by: Boom! at August 29, 2015 04:25 PM (z6X+C)

9 Dr. Jill Biden says pencils are safer when they're not sharpened.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2015 04:26 PM (8ZskC)

10 What if you sat backwards on the bike?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:27 PM (rwI+c)

11 The central point in the backwards bicycle video, that knowledge does not equal understanding, is one that definitely needs to be pounded into the heads of our ivory tower wannabe masters on the Left. Or as Mark Twain once put it, "It takes a lot of education to learn so many things that just aren't so."

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 29, 2015 04:27 PM (HalrA)

12 Celebrating my b-day (not until sept. 2) and folks 49th anniversary poolside with filet, lobster, shrimp and twice baked potatoes.

Life is good. ..even if eating all this is a bitch.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 29, 2015 04:28 PM (w/hjf)

13 Nice RWC. Sounds lovely.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 04:29 PM (PfVjp)

14 Only Darryl uses a crossbow, Machone uses a samurai sword.

Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2015 04:30 PM (nSbUf)

15 12 Celebrating my b-day (not until sept. 2) and folks 49th anniversary poolside with filet, lobster, shrimp and twice baked potatoes.

Life is good. ..even if eating all this is a bitch.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 29, 2015 04:28 PM (w/hjf)

Sounds like good eats right there. Happy early birthday, and congrats to your parents!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 29, 2015 04:31 PM (mx5oN)

16 I would be interested in seeing how the machine grasps the pencil, and rotates it.

Note that the pencil is lowered onto the abrasive drum at the feed side, and lifted from the drum at the end. Also, note the pattern on the drum where there is a transition from grinding wood to grinding graphite.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:32 PM (9mTYi)

17 Steiner is coming with the content.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 29, 2015 04:32 PM (mx5oN)

18 Hey Grump, did you attend the Trump rally at Ladd Stadium? If so, how was it. What was the sense of Trump in my hometown?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 29, 2015 04:32 PM (LUgeY)

19
I'm sure content will arrive shortly.
Posted by: Open Blogger




Mein Fuehrer, Steiner....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2015 04:33 PM (kdS6q)

20 Somebody needs to put that backwards bike into Prezn't Mom Jeans' inventory.

The video of the crash n' burn would melt YouTube's servers from the billion-plus hits in the first ten minutes.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 04:33 PM (McRlu)

21 Only Darryl uses a crossbow, Machone uses a samurai sword.
Posted by: Skip
----------------

Where are they when we need them? The Buzzion zombie is becoming aggressive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

22 What do kids do today if they find a dull pencil now that all the pencil sharpeners that were in every office and home are now gone?

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 04:33 PM (nAv2M)

23 knowledge does not equal understanding

I don't get this, or if I'm getting it, it's so trivially true that I would be embarrassed to say it. But I don't think I get it in regards to the bike riding. I bet I could do the same thing if I asked you to pass a football, while wearing glasses that reversed right and left.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:33 PM (rwI+c)

24 One thing about lack of content, these people will pretty well amuse themselves.

Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2015 04:34 PM (nSbUf)

25 12 Celebrating my b-day (not until sept. 2) and folks 49th anniversary poolside with filet, lobster, shrimp and twice baked potatoes.

Life is good. ..even if eating all this is a bitch.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
...........................
So, when I get to the second stop sign, was that a left or a right?

Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 04:35 PM (ENe42)

26 I think the pencils are at a slight angle, so the sanding drum is turning the pencils.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 04:35 PM (0qASP)

27 I've come up with a great new policy initiative for my run at the presidency:

TSA porn-sniffing dogs.

Yeah, baby.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2015 04:36 PM (u5gzz)

28 Hey Grump, did you attend the Trump rally at Ladd Stadium?

I did. I thought the crowd was 10k or so, but the local media put it higher. I guess I'm not that familiar with the way Trump speaks and I was mostly going wtf? on his stream of consciousness. The crowd seemed appreciative though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:36 PM (rwI+c)

29 How about "understanding the mechanics doesn't mean you can execute the mechanics."

Now, I'm not encouraging anyone to execute a mechanic.

*scans sky for banhammer*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 04:36 PM (8ZskC)

30 You can sharpen my pencil anyday!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner
---------
Grind it down.
Slice off the nuts.
Suture the skin where it stood.

Posted by: Cait Jenner at August 29, 2015 04:37 PM (P6Jv8)

31 And, wait!
They sharpen pencils at the factory, now?
I don't think I've ever bought a box of pre-sharpened pencils. Or even seen one.

Yeah, yeah - lawn. Remove yourself.

Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 04:38 PM (ENe42)

32 Beer and brats would have massively improved the Trump rally.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:38 PM (rwI+c)

33
Having used mechanical pencils for so long, I don't remember buying pencils that came pre-sharpened.

Posted by: GBruno at August 29, 2015 04:38 PM (u49WF)

34 Grump, How did the crowd respond to Senator Sessions?

Posted by: Lex at August 29, 2015 04:39 PM (FBjP7)

35 They sharpen pencils at the factory, now?
----------------

For golfers

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:39 PM (9mTYi)

36 The classics never get old. Obama: Bush's fault.

http://tinyurl.com/oer2jvs

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 29, 2015 04:39 PM (5VnCS)

37 Bicycle guy's a Bama fan.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 29, 2015 04:39 PM (u5gzz)

38

I cant seem to get any news on the deputy shooting in houston


they had a guy in custody for questioning but they said the manhunt is continuing

which means the shooter didnt work alone?

whats going on?

Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 04:40 PM (zOTsN)

39 Debbie Washerwoman Schlitz is lying again. Asked what she said to O'Malley after he ripped her a new one she tweeted, "I just said thank you. I have more class than that."

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 29, 2015 04:40 PM (5VnCS)

40 For golfers
Posted by: Mike Hammer
........................
That a good point.

Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 04:41 PM (ENe42)

41 Grump, How did the crowd respond to Senator Sessions?

Judge Sessions is very well liked here. It's his home turf. He ran unopposed last time. That's how popular he is. Getting the Senator's endorsement would be huge here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:41 PM (rwI+c)

42 I think the pencils are at a slight angle, so the sanding drum is turning the pencils.>>>

Check your monitor it may be crooked.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 04:41 PM (nAv2M)

43
This pencil thing was on "How It's Made" a ways back.

Posted by: GBruno at August 29, 2015 04:42 PM (u49WF)

44 email I received that falls under the catagory of "piss off":

I say it every day on the trail, and I mean it: I need you. I need your prayers. I need your support.

Earlier this month I needed your feedback. Today, I need you to make a contribution ahead of our August End of Month Deadline: Jeb2016. com/dont nate/

Serious you guys there's only 4 days left until our Monday deadline, and we need to raise $200,000 to hit our monthly goal.

Unless you step up with a gift of $100, $50, or $25 right now, we might not hit our mark.

Posted by: mallfly at August 29, 2015 04:42 PM (qSIlh)

45 The important thing is that the pencils get sharpened.

Nothing else matters.

Posted by: rickl at August 29, 2015 04:42 PM (sdi6R)

46 Judge Sessions is very well liked here. It's his home turf. He ran unopposed last time. That's how popular he is. Getting the Senator's endorsement would be huge here.

Huge, classy and luxurious.

Posted by: Donald Trump at August 29, 2015 04:42 PM (8ZskC)

47 I have one of these, mounted on my workbench:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/qarzgtj

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:42 PM (9mTYi)

48 David Lynch showed how to make pencils in "Eraserhead"

Posted by: mallfly at August 29, 2015 04:43 PM (qSIlh)

49 I don't get this, or if I'm getting it, it's so trivially true that I would be embarrassed to say it. But I don't think I get it in regards to the bike riding. I bet I could do the same thing if I asked you to pass a football, while wearing glasses that reversed right and left.

***

He isn't claiming the bike is the cause of the fact, just that the bike made him aware of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 04:43 PM (PMlgt)

50 But is sharpening pencils a business that will support an entire factory?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 04:43 PM (8ZskC)

51 Posted by: The Great _______ Snark

---

If you let them silence you, the terrorists will have won.

Posted by: Cait Jenner at August 29, 2015 04:44 PM (P6Jv8)

52 A good art set will have a pad with sawdust pages on it for just that purpose of sharpening pencils.

I still think the video of that Arabic guy getting blasted by the goat is infinitely watchable.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 04:45 PM (39g3+)

53 I think the pencils are at a slight angle, so the sanding drum is turning the pencils.>>>

Check your monitor it may be crooked.
---------------

There is a slight 'illusion' at work there. First, as the wood is ground away, the pencils appear to be shortening, then, as the tip is brought to actual point, the overall length is slightly shortened.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:45 PM (9mTYi)

54 Earlier this month I needed your feedback. Today, I need you to make a contribution ahead of our August End of Month Deadline: Jeb2016. com/dont nate/


Heh. "dont nate."

I plan on doing that several times. Sorry, Yeb.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (LUgeY)

55 44: You have my prayers Jeb. Praying you and Hillbitch quit for the good of the country. Good enough?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (ucDmr)

56 Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson expressed outrage over the shooting death Saturday and said it is time for the brutality to end.

"It is time for the silent majority in this country to support law enforcement. There are a few bad apples in every profession. That does not mean there should be open warfare on law enforcement. The vast majority of officers are there to do the right thing, are there because they care about their community and want to make it a safer place," Anderson said. "What happened last night is an assault on the very fabric of society. It is not anything that we can tolerate. It is time to come forward and support law enforcement and condemn this atrocious act. We need to bring this killer to justice."


they charged the guy they already had in custody

press conference at 4:30. this sounds like BLM related to me

Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (zOTsN)

57 I still wonder if Cruz and Trump don't have some kind of handshake deal. Trump can stir the pot and back out right before the primaries and endorse Cruz.

/tinfoil hat

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (PfVjp)

58 He isn't claiming the bike is the cause of the fact, just that the bike made him aware of it.

And still I get nothing. Riding a bike is neither knowledge nor understanding. It's practice and muscle memory.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (rwI+c)

59 Then there's this bitch that probably voted for Obama twice

https://vine.co/v/ObVLP1d13Lg

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (39g3+)

60 Hickman echoed Anderson's sentiments about the targeting of law enforcement officers.

"Our system of justice absolutely requires law enforcement to be present to protect our community. So at any point when the rhetoric ramps up to the point where calculated, cold-blooded assassinations of police officers happen, this rhetoric has gotten out of control," Hickman said. "We've heard black lives matter, all lives matter -- well cops' lives matter, too, so why don't we just drop the qualifier and just say lives matter and take that to the bank."

Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 04:46 PM (zOTsN)

61 But is sharpening pencils a business that will support an entire factory?
Posted by: Cicero
----------------

Not at a living wage.
Dammit. We'll have to use machines.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 04:47 PM (9mTYi)

62
Get a load of this guy:

David Frum davidfrum
Think of the Trump candidacy as the shock therapy the GOP needs to jolt it away from the Ayn Rand fantasies of past 2 cycles.



Yep, the GOP is being run by Randian Libertarian absolutists. Sounds about right.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2015 04:47 PM (kdS6q)

63 Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 04:35 PM (ENe42

Right, then first on the right.

Thanks all. Been a great day with family and the kids. Even got to the gym before all of it.

So Megyn might go MSN. I guess her work here is done.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 29, 2015 04:47 PM (9jeGC)

64 Does one 'know' walking? Or 'understand' running?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:48 PM (rwI+c)

65


sounds like police, the sheriff and the DA are pretty sure this is BLM related

Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 04:48 PM (zOTsN)

66 David Lynch showed how to make pencils in "Eraserhead"Posted
by: mallfly
------
Heh, I remember that. Most people think Eraserhead is the baby, but it's the man.

That whole movie was like an 80 minute commercial. to make people pro-abortion.

Posted by: Cait Jenner at August 29, 2015 04:48 PM (P6Jv8)

67 O.K. This made me laugh and considering my week I could use a laugh- Apparently there are Atheist mega churches. This man does a funny take on Athiest worship songs.

http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=WP777LNX

Discliamer-Yes, I think there are some very fine people who are Atheists. Some of them post on this board. They probably aren't attending Atheist mega churches and aren't the militant variety, which I think are the ones who might attend an Atheist church,. That is in addition to the my belief that you can't have a "church" without a belief in God, so the term seems a misnomer I guess they like fellowship with other people and engaging in social service projects.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 29, 2015 04:48 PM (OSs/l)

68 I like the term don'tnate. That's a good one. Don'tnate to all the presidential candidates. Jeb wants my money? Don'tnate.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 04:49 PM (39g3+)

69 The bicycle video is one of the most interesting I've ever seen.

Posted by: Beth M at August 29, 2015 04:50 PM (kiy9d)

70 Counter-intuitive interfaces suck.

You steer bikes and motorcycles by tilting them and balance by steering the front wheel back underneath yourself. It's why it's so tough to ride along the edge, you run out of room to steer right so you can tilt left.

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 04:50 PM (DL2i+)

71 O.K. This made me laugh and considering my week I could use a laugh- Apparently there are Atheist mega churches.

So the service is what, a Toastmasters meeting?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 04:50 PM (8ZskC)

72 Only Darryl uses a crossbow, Machone uses a samurai sword.
Posted by: Skip


Team Bo Staff FTW!

Posted by: Morgan at August 29, 2015 04:50 PM (zt+N6)

73 Didn't watch the bike video because I'm sure I've seen it somewhere.
The whole point is that your brain has been hardwired.
The bike isn't the problem, your brain is.

Posted by: Chi at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (ENe42)

74 Just saw "The Man From UNCLE" movie.

I'm not going into whether it was good or bad here.

My grievance here is that it contains a lot of subtitles (as many of the scenes are between Russians), and the subtitles were written by a complete idiot with absolutely no understanding of what a comma does. I mean, these subtitles are HORRENDOUS.

Seems to me there was a time when you had to have an education if you were going for a job in a professional copy-editing position.

I get a feeling of dread that this is where we are going, due to the whining of idiots and their "super-duper brilliant comeback" of calling people "grammar Nazis." (Oh, no! Excuse me! They call us "gramer nazi's!")

Look, if I said that Mars has 3 moons and you corrected me, could I call you a "science Nazi"? If I said that pi is 3.24 and you corrected me, could I call you a "math Nazi"?

No.

Well, grammar has right and wrong, just like science and math do.

And now look at what you've wrought: I go to movie and the subtitles look like they were typed by an angry atheist form an Infowars comment section!

Posted by: RKae at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (zpRqk)

75 There is a slight 'illusion' at work there. First, as the wood is ground
away, the pencils appear to be shortening, then, as the tip is brought
to actual point, the overall length is slightly shortened.>>>

The pencils are trapped between 2 conveyors that spin them running at a right but slightly down angle to the sandpaper belt. So yes they shorten as material is removed.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (nAv2M)

76 It's a 100 degrees. It was suppose to be cooler than yesterday which was also a 100 effin degrees.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (iQIUe)

77 One thing I remember from motocross, always look at where you want to be, never at what you want to avoid.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (rwI+c)

78 in Soviet Russia, pencil sharpens YOU !

Posted by: Y. Smirnoff at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (8CdUx)

79 I still think the video of that Arabic guy getting blasted by the goat is infinitely watchable.


Link? Hadn't heard of that one. Sounds entertaining.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 04:53 PM (PfVjp)

80 The bicycle video is one of the most interesting I've ever seen.

So then you've never seen the video where Hitler discovers that he's been banned from xBox Live.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 29, 2015 04:54 PM (8ZskC)

81 Link? Hadn't heard of that one. Sounds entertaining./i]

I'm digging. Its truly hilarious.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 04:54 PM (39g3+)

82 I don't understand everything I know.

Posted by: BignJames at August 29, 2015 04:54 PM (HtUkt)

83 David Frum davidfrum
Think of the Trump candidacy as the shock therapy the GOP needs to jolt it away from the Ayn Rand fantasies of past 2 cycles.

-
Get a defibrillator stat! The GOP is in critical condition!

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 29, 2015 04:54 PM (d8qld)

84 wow ndh! that backwards bike thing was FASCINATING!!! thanks for sharing that!
so weird to see his brain click

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 29, 2015 04:55 PM (0O7c5)

85 70 Counter-intuitive interfaces suck.

You steer bikes and motorcycles by tilting them and balance by steering the front wheel back underneath yourself. It's why it's so tough to ride along the edge, you run out of room to steer right so you can tilt left.

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 04:50 PM (DL2i+)



Thing is, that his kid who had only been riding bike for 3 years had learned how to do it in two weeks. So that was kind of interesting hearing that part.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 04:56 PM (zt+N6)

86 Bicycle guy doesn't play the right video games. There are many games where certain events will cause the controls to reverse. This is especially common in multiplayer games to mess up your opponents. The better you can adjust the better you'll do in the game.

Also, the word understanding is misused. What he should have said was reflexes. Somebody with no previous use of a bicycle or any other vehicle would likely be able to adjust more readily. They'd still be fighting their instincts based on just walking but would not have the same instincts regarding mechanical extensions of their body. Such a person would be difficult to find in a developed nation.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 29, 2015 04:56 PM (IdCqF)

87 For Drafting pencils they sell rotary lead pointers.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (nAv2M)

88 I'm surrounded by women. My wife is a woman. (I'm sad I had to type that last sentence. I have 2 daughters. My in-laws are MIL, sister in law. That thing about the sorority house sync-up? Yeah not so much. IOW, there's always a woman around me either riding the cotton pony, or getting ready to. (The latter is worse.)
My life's motto: They bleed, I drink.

Posted by: The Memory Hole at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (5buP8)

89 Only Darryl uses a crossbow, Machone uses a samurai sword.
Posted by: Skip

Team Bo Staff FTW!
Posted by: Morgan


Among the many stupidities on that show, the one that irritates me the most is the fact that no one has the 10 neurons it takes to stick a fucking knife on the end of a fucking stick and spear the fucking zombies.

Spears are the single most common weapon in the fucking history of fucking man-kind. What the fucking fuck already.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (Ck8hC)

90 One thing I remember from motocross, always look at where you want to be, never at what you want to avoid.

And if you crash with riders behind you, don't get up and try to run off the track. Stay there and let them pass you.

At least that's what I was told by my buddies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (LUgeY)

91 I approve of the bicycle video.

Posted by: Cahrles Jhonson at August 29, 2015 04:58 PM (2XMpf)

92 That woman who took the ball from the girl that caught it should be taken out back for a wooden shampoo. WTF happened to people?

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 04:58 PM (PfVjp)

93 David Frum

The genius who brought us "Axis of Evil" when we weren't going to knock all three off and has been wronger about everything else since. The guy who can't fill Peggy Noonan's panties - or bar tab.

Posted by: DaveA at August 29, 2015 04:59 PM (DL2i+)

94 Sounds like a great day RWC.

Alas, I am at work til 11. I really need to find something different so I can start having a life again.

Posted by: Blano at August 29, 2015 04:59 PM (FTYF8)

95
Wow, LDC, thanks for that.

Frum, who clearly lost his mind (effectively) some ways back, after not always being so clueless, has discovered Ayn Rand fantasy-worthy elements in the last two election cycles (assuming he means prezidential, not mid-term).

As PJ would say, WTFF?

So I guess *not* completing the distortion and destruction of rational/market finance in medical care, *not* nationalizing gigantic industrial enterprises with the Peronist twist of looting them for a few unions, *not* playing mad scientist with the monetary/banking system with zillions of digital dollars, *not* weaponizing powerful federal agencies to conduct politically-based abuse of citizens never before seen in our history, and *not* pushing to effectively crush freedom of conscience/religious liberty in direct contravention of unambiguous constitutional limits fundamental to the very creation of the country - *these* were "Ayn Rand fantasies".

Good to know.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 29, 2015 04:59 PM (QDnY+)

96 My wife is a woman. (I'm sad I had to type that last sentence.

Wait; You're sad that your wife is a woman?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 29, 2015 04:59 PM (OSs/l)

97 Somebody with no previous use of a bicycle or any other vehicle would likely be able to adjust more readily. They'd still be fighting their instincts based on just walking but would not have the same instincts regarding mechanical extensions of their body. Such a person would be difficult to find in a developed nation.


Posted by: Epobirs at August 29, 2015 04:56 PM (IdCqF)



Uh he had his son do it. Riding bike for only 3 years. Was able to learn how to do it in two weeks. But it took him 8 months to figure it out.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 04:59 PM (zt+N6)

98 I don't it's posted yet, but . . .


Milton Friedman on the pencil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERbC7JyCfU

Posted by: logprof, now hawking on Amazon at August 29, 2015 05:01 PM (vsbNu)

99 I can't find it Just saw it again today, too.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:02 PM (39g3+)

100 I'm surrounded by women. My wife is a woman. (I'm
sad I had to type that last sentence. I have 2 daughters. My in-laws are
MIL, sister in law. That thing about the sorority house sync-up? Yeah
not so much. IOW, there's always a woman around me either riding the
cotton pony, or getting ready to. (The latter is worse.)

My life's motto: They bleed, I drink.

Posted by: The Memory Hole at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (5buP


Have a happy Happy Week/Month/Year.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:02 PM (TEpA2)

101 Fact, they have to sell pre sharpened pencils because the government took away all sharp bladed tools.

Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2015 05:02 PM (nSbUf)

102 The comment from David Frum?

Reminds me of why that guy is a useless twat.

That's what it does.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....rube in America at August 29, 2015 05:03 PM (+1T7c)

103 In England that is.

Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2015 05:03 PM (nSbUf)

104 #74

Actually, unlike science grammar IS a popularity contest. Languages change over time based on how people actually speak and write them. Thus the divergence between US and UK into dialects of English. Two nations separated by a common tongue.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 29, 2015 05:04 PM (IdCqF)

105 ...rode desert alot...and learned when you get into trouble stay away from the break give it the gas , the bike will straighten out on its own.

Posted by: E.T. at August 29, 2015 05:04 PM (LCjVo)

106 David Frum's mom was a well-known anchor for the CBC in Canada.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:04 PM (TEpA2)

107 wow ndh! that backwards bike thing was FASCINATING!!! thanks for sharing that!
so weird to see his brain click

****

That dude is so cool. Love him on Twitter.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 05:05 PM (PMlgt)

108 "..... My wife is a woman....."


Xer name's Caitlyn?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 05:05 PM (McRlu)

109 I can't wait until they try reversing automobile steering wheels. Kaching!

Posted by: Ambu, Lance, and Chase, LLC at August 29, 2015 05:05 PM (1CroS)

110 . IOW, there's always a woman around me either riding the
cotton pony, or getting ready to. (The latter is worse.)


They aren't all synched up yet?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:06 PM (39g3+)

111 #97

It got tedious and thus I didn't watch the whole thing. Psych students have been endlessly repeating that experiment for decades.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 29, 2015 05:06 PM (IdCqF)

112 David Frum's mother was a well known anchor?

Was she in the Navy?

Did she drown?


Sounds awful.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....rube in America at August 29, 2015 05:08 PM (+1T7c)

113
89 Only Darryl uses a crossbow, Machone uses a samurai sword.
Posted by: Skip

Team Bo Staff FTW!
Posted by: Morgan

Among the many stupidities on that show, the one that irritates me the most is the fact that no one has the 10 neurons it takes to stick a fucking knife on the end of a fucking stick and spear the fucking zombies.

Spears are the single most common weapon in the fucking history of fucking man-kind. What the fucking fuck already.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2015 04:57 PM (Ck8hC

Don't get me started on the dumbest show of all time.

*starts to mumble*

Posted by: Positive Waves at August 29, 2015 05:08 PM (MQEz6)

114 #16

I suspect the other end of the pencils is gripped between two wide flat surfaces, one of which is a moving belt to provide the rotation and movement across the grinding surface.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 29, 2015 05:08 PM (IdCqF)

115 the Houston Shooter? his mother says he couldn't have done it because he was with her all night


he has been arrested, which means she lied. they need to charge her too

Posted by: ThunderB at August 29, 2015 05:09 PM (zOTsN)

116
Actually DaveA, "Axis of Evil" was spot-on (even more than most right-wing death beasts seem to understand), even if it was an assymmetric "axis" (Iran-NK was/is quite real and substantive and dangerous, Iraq was obviously a bit more "independent").

And, tragically, about "finishing all three off" (even tho I think that's arguable as a neccessary follow-up to just namingthem to begin with), is that we actually finished off one - the most recklessly dangerous and vulnerable one - and were close to strangling another (NK). And some good progress was made at making the third, the big Kahuna (Iran) both nervous and more vulnerable. But the anti-prolif. initiative that had NK getting close to desperate was - mysteriously to this day - suddenly abandoned. And of course Iran's 378th open declaration of war on us was, yet again, ignored, and our position in Iraq very poorly exploited to punish and weaken them.

But was just thinking the other day, Dubya winning by a whisker against one of the most ridiculous candidates in modern history (Kerry), in war-time, followed by the national delusional hysteria/whine-fest over Iraq and Katrina and not getting our favorite ice cream daddy, was at least a nerf bat to the head of those who only later (like myself) recognized that the country was past the tipping point. Unserious. Which was sorta confirmed spectacularly in 2008 and since.

But I gotta go clean up the deck, call an old friend, and maybe finally detail strip that carbine (1943 Quality Hardware), if I can handle the heat in the garage.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 29, 2015 05:09 PM (QDnY+)

117 weft, it is against the law to hunt deer with a spear in Texas! What kinda shit is that? If you're badass enough to stalk or ambush a deer with a spear then stick that deer and brag all year long.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 29, 2015 05:09 PM (sTarx)

118 Read an article lately that says 75% of psych experiments are unrepeatable.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/onsfjnd

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:10 PM (39g3+)

119 I will keep an eye out for it CT. Gotta be out there somewhere.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:10 PM (PfVjp)

120 I agree, the harder and more impressive the hunting tool the more legal it ought to be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:11 PM (39g3+)

121 Hey NDH!

Just wanted to say "Thank You!" for the Yahoo Group tip in the other thread. Done done.

Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 05:12 PM (1brdf)

122
120 I agree, the harder and more impressive the hunting tool the more legal it ought to be.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:11 PM (39g3+)

It will force hunters to hunt in teams.

Posted by: Positive Waves at August 29, 2015 05:12 PM (MQEz6)

123 David Frum's mother was a well known anchor?



Was she in the Navy?



Did she drown?





Sounds awful.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....rube in America at August 29, 2015 05:08 PM (+1T7c)



Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the equivalent of the BBC.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:12 PM (TEpA2)

124 The vine is a guy crossing a street in Arabic clothing (a Thawb?) and out of nowhere a goat charges in and just blasts him. Like its revenge for Friday night or something.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:13 PM (39g3+)

125 (Ooops - no ampersands for me. Must remember to upgrade AoS membership package)

Posted by: speedster1 at August 29, 2015 05:13 PM (1brdf)

126 Old DKW district 37 rider. Aim high, follow yer nose, look where u wanna be, dont target fixate.

Posted by: oh,k,tnx,bye at August 29, 2015 05:14 PM (q8Nh5)

127 nunchucks...or sharpened pensils should be legal

Posted by: E.T. at August 29, 2015 05:14 PM (LCjVo)

128 Drudge headline seems to point toward the end of Jeb!mentum.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 29, 2015 05:14 PM (oVJmc)

129 77 One thing I remember from motocross, always look at where you want to be, never at what you want to avoid.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 29, 2015 04:51 PM (rwI+c)



It's like throwing a baseball: it's very hard to throw accurately if you're not looking at your target. Try throwing batting practice without a target; the tendency is to look at the batter, and then naturally to throw at him, to his annoyance. Throwing past him at an imaginary target takes practice.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:14 PM (oKE6c)

130 Milton Friedman on the pencil:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERbC7JyCfU

Posted by: logprof, now hawking on Amazon>>>

I have seen the dumbed down "I Pencil" cartoons. Which were enlightening. But to see Friedman's version it is much more.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:16 PM (nAv2M)

131
I agree, the harder and more impressive the hunting tool the more legal it ought to be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Then Hillarys hunting method would impress the heck out of you. Camo pantsuit and the snooch of death.

Posted by: Bruce at August 29, 2015 05:16 PM (8ikIW)

132 If a deer could see as well as a turkey you'd never kill one.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 29, 2015 05:16 PM (sTarx)

133 So Jeb takes my money so he can screw me over. Reverse prostitution.

Posted by: Cait Jenner at August 29, 2015 05:17 PM (P6Jv8)

134 No pressure on the kids from PA in the US final of the LLWS. None at all (live on ABC).

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:17 PM (TEpA2)

135 Bruce that's just uncalled for. Banned!

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 29, 2015 05:18 PM (sTarx)

136 70 >> Counter-intuitive interfaces suck.

DaveA, this is why I avoided the 80s era HP calculators with their reverse Polish notation scheme.

I wonder, with the reverse bike if you got pushed to a stable speed you could steer it normally without using the handlebars using just your balance and weight to steer. Hands free mode, in other words.

Should operate okay in that mode with no new learning.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2015 05:19 PM (gyKtp)

137 weft, it is against the law to hunt deer with a spear in Texas! What kinda shit is that? If you're badass enough to stalk or ambush a deer with a spear then stick that deer and brag all year long.
Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI


That is weird. Might be a 'clean kill' law thing. Then again a spear is probably quicker than having to expend 400 arrows to down a deer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2015 05:20 PM (Ck8hC)

138 Fuck David Frum's party.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 29, 2015 05:21 PM (u5gzz)

139 82 The more I know the less I understand

Posted by: MAx Henley at August 29, 2015 05:21 PM (LAliD)

140 Hate music.

http://youtu.be/ZbHJHPTikQA

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 29, 2015 05:23 PM (Nwg0u)

141 Is this it?


https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=GKdkbAljLSA

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:23 PM (PfVjp)

142 DaveA, this is why I avoided the 80s era HP calculators with their reverse Polish notation scheme.>>>

They may have been counter intuitive. But much more productive if you had to do long calculations involving lots of entrys. Which is why an HP could sell for twice what a fing TI sold for in the early 80s. Oh and TIs when used would start double entering.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:24 PM (nAv2M)

143 Yes, that's the one That's one angry goat

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:25 PM (39g3+)

144 Hunting grizzly with brass knuckles would be a challenge.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 29, 2015 05:25 PM (Nwg0u)

145 That bicycle video shows something I saw on another show. They put women in a MRI while they were learning new knitting technique. It showed that when your are learning a new skill you use one part of the brain and when you have mastered it your use another. It's almost like one part of the brain has to learn the program and once is does it writes it another part of the brain where is can be executed easier. I've noticed this myself when I was playing the piano. It's really slow and painful to learn a new song, but one you master it, it almost become automatic.

Posted by: Thermadin at August 29, 2015 05:25 PM (Hxtbu)

146 Hilarious karma!

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:26 PM (PfVjp)

147 Hmm might actually be a cow but its poor quality

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:26 PM (39g3+)

148 Since it's not possible to go OT in an open thread, and I'm too impatient to wait for tomorrow's gaming thread --

Anyone know how to add the Helgen Reborn .bsa and .esp files to Skyrim's data files? Drag-and-drop didn't work, and Bethesda hasn't answered my plea for help, so I'm at a loss.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:26 PM (qXIIh)

149 One thing I remember from motocross, always look at where you want to be, never at what you want to avoid.

yes, skiing/boarding trees means you look at the gaps.....and not the trees

Posted by: Jake at August 29, 2015 05:26 PM (aMeMZ)

150 Hey NDH!

Just wanted to say "Thank You!" for the Yahoo Group tip in the other thread. Done done.


***

You're welcome. Nothing to it.

Good luck with the meetup

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 29, 2015 05:27 PM (PMlgt)

151 Bully Goat.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:27 PM (PfVjp)

152 Of course real men would use an atlatl.

Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at August 29, 2015 05:27 PM (sTarx)

153 136 Yes, because of the caster of the front forks

Posted by: MAx Henley at August 29, 2015 05:27 PM (LAliD)

154 Pencil factory is or was probably in Mexico of China.

Chicago is loosing a shit load of jobs to Mexico:


With
thousands of layoffs across the Chicago area, ranging from factory
jobs at the Mondelez plant on Chicago's Southwest Side to
white-collar jobs at Walgreens' Deerfield headquarters, this may be
remembered as the Summer of the Pink Slip in Illinois.
Locally here in upstate New York a safe manufacturing company moving to Mexico; Sentry Safe, 300 jobs...High tax states just loose jobs.

Posted by: Colin at August 29, 2015 05:28 PM (eoM8x)

155 Pencils? That's nothing. You aught to see how we sharpen those little round wooden toothpicks- both ends!

Posted by: The Sharpeners Guild at August 29, 2015 05:29 PM (mwhHu)

156 DaveA, this is why I avoided the 80s era HP calculators with their reverse Polish notation scheme.

I used one of those for abut 30 years, and when it finally gave up the ghost, I had a very hard time using a regular calculator. I'm still better than Biden, though, who just sticks it in his mouth.

Posted by: pep at August 29, 2015 05:29 PM (LAe3v)

157 154 Oreos are gonna be made in Mejico

Posted by: MAx Henley at August 29, 2015 05:29 PM (LAliD)

158 [i70 >> Counter-intuitive interfaces suck.

DaveA, this is why I avoided the 80s era HP calculators with their reverse Polish notation scheme.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2015 05:19 PM (gyKtp)


Interesting: I'm exactly the opposite. I found RPN natural and intuitive, and to this day struggle with calculators that use algebraic notation. I suspect it has something to do with first learning to do calculations on a slide rule.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:29 PM (oKE6c)

159 So is this the food thread? I thought the morning one was just a filler.

But to stay on topic I offer this pencil shaving food link:

http://tinyurl.com/o9chnvt

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 05:30 PM (EWr9w)

160 157 Trump called for a boycott but I'm just not that strong

Posted by: MAx at August 29, 2015 05:30 PM (LAliD)

161 Locally here in upstate New York a safe
manufacturing company moving to Mexico; Sentry Safe, 300 jobs...High tax
states just loose jobs.


Posted by: Colin


Unions are even more of a problem.

Posted by: pep at August 29, 2015 05:30 PM (LAe3v)

162 136 RPN rocks!

I cannot stand screwing around with equals buttons.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 05:34 PM (NaeCR)

163 Back in the early 80s I was in school for drafting dies for molds. So we had to take 100s of numbers to calculate volume of the shapes we drew. Many TI calculators were sacrificed to the Charpy Impact tester in frustration on how crappy they were.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:34 PM (nAv2M)

164 PA will play Japan in the LLWS World Championship.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:35 PM (TEpA2)

165 What the fuck is a pencil? How can I write with it if it has no keys?

Posted by: Millenial at August 29, 2015 05:36 PM (P6Jv8)

166 But to stay on topic I offer this pencil shaving food link:

http://tinyurl.com/o9chnvt
Posted by: olddog in mo


heh. but you know somewhere out there in the bowels of NYC or LA there a chef who is going to use 'food pencils' to draw a meal on a piece of edible rice paper.

Actually I'm kind of surprised no one has opened a 3d printed food restaurant yet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2015 05:36 PM (Ck8hC)

167 Some of those LLWS kids are bigger than me.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:36 PM (TEpA2)

168 I'm so confused!

Posted by: Gene Kelly at August 29, 2015 05:37 PM (l9UEg)

169 Back in the '60s, I was using a mechanical calculator. Kchunk, kchunk, kchunk. Of course, they didn't do division, which was real nice.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 05:38 PM (0qASP)

170 Lots of 3D printed food being offered, not any restaurants yet...Good way for fast food to fight the $15 crowd, 3D printing!

Posted by: Colin at August 29, 2015 05:39 PM (eoM8x)

171
Just back from 18 holes and knocking back a few scotch and waters at the club. It's nice to leave the rigors of Washington and not have to think about how the electorate has damaged the republican brand by siding with Trump instead of sticking with tried and proven leaders such as myself and McConnell.

Posted by: Vester Boehner, Speaker of the House at August 29, 2015 05:41 PM (OiFtZ)

172 Interesting: I'm exactly the opposite. I found RPN natural and intuitive, and to this day struggle with calculators that use algebraic notation. I suspect it has something to do with first learning to do calculations on a slide rule.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:29 PM (oKE6c)

You probably started out with an HP as your first scientific calculator too. I started with TIs, and HPs just frustrated the hell out of me.

In the early 90s, I tried to learn that faster keyboard layout (qwerty was designed to slow typists down so the keys wouldn't jam); the problem was, you couldn't tote your reprogrammed keyboard everywhere with you.

Sooner or later, you had to meet a qwerty, and that's when the fight started...

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2015 05:41 PM (gyKtp)

173 Back in the '60s, I was using a mechanical calculator. Kchunk, kchunk,
kchunk. Of course, they didn't do division, which was real nice.>>>

My Father brought one of those home that they were throwing away at work. We would punch in long strings of numbers and watch it whir. It was a fucking mechanical marvel and magic to us.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:42 PM (nAv2M)

174 "I'm going blind from watching this over and over and..."


I haven't experienced any vision issues from constant pencil sharpening.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 29, 2015 05:42 PM (/f6Nd)

175 Back in the '60s, I was using a mechanical calculator. Kchunk, kchunk,


LOL. That reminds me of when mom took computer classes at GWCC, I think it was. She would bring home boxes of cards with holes punched in them. Seems here homework was to put them in the correct order to do something. My brother and I would push each other up and down the hall in the chair with wheels while she was in the lab.


Hmm, don't know why I remember that and thought I should share.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:42 PM (PfVjp)

176 Jake, I got the same advice in my motorcycle class years ago. Found it very helpful. Gave up the motorcycle when we had our son. Still miss it some days.

Posted by: Beth M at August 29, 2015 05:43 PM (kiy9d)

177 175-because some of us old folks did that as well, and fondly (okay, that's sarcasm) remember the cards and boxes. And yes, I dropped mine on the way to the final when some jackass on a moped ran into me because they had no motor skills whatsoever.

Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2015 05:44 PM (x303I)

178 Yeah that other typewriter layout Dvorak is supposed to be really good but man I've been using QUERTY since I was 16, I do not want to relearn to type.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:45 PM (39g3+)

179 PA will play Japan in the LLWS World Championship.

Ah, good. It was 2-2 when I left. I have to look up where in the heck "Lewisberry" is, because I've never heard of it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2015 05:46 PM (FcR7P)

180 When I was using key punch cards, I learned to only put one command per card. Easier to find screw ups that way.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 05:46 PM (0qASP)

181 I had a similar experience when I learned to use a Dvorak keyboard. I'd been touch-typing on QWERTY for years, and I had gone through the training to learn the layout of the Dvorak, but, every time I went to hit the key I knew was the right one, a little voice in my head kept screaming: "NO, NOT THAT KEY!!!" Drove me nuts and I finally had to give it up.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 05:47 PM (2GbWn)

182 RPN takes a step out in entering long strings of numbers. Not sure where if you are younger than 100 where QWERTY comes in.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:47 PM (nAv2M)

183 Moki, we weren't allowed within 10 feet of mom when she was at the kitchen table doing home work. If we needed to get by her to the kitchen or family room, we better WALK SLOWLY AND PAY ATTENTION.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:48 PM (PfVjp)

184 Christopher Taylor --
I couldn't touch-type for beans until I found out about the Dvorak keyboard. (Thank you Computer Gods!) Now my only problem is feeling the tiny ridges on the home keys. Once I'm set, I can go great guns.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:48 PM (qXIIh)

185 148 Since it's not possible to go OT in an open thread, and I'm too impatient to wait for tomorrow's gaming thread --

Anyone know how to add the Helgen Reborn .bsa and .esp files to Skyrim's data files? Drag-and-drop didn't work, and Bethesda hasn't answered my plea for help, so I'm at a loss.


Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:26 PM (qXIIh)



There seems to be some of an explanation on its page in nexus mods.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35841/?

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2015 05:49 PM (zt+N6)

186 Conversely, if a turkey had the olfactory abilities of a deer, you would probably never even see one.

Posted by: Agitator at August 29, 2015 05:50 PM (vzk8Z)

187 Oh, and just for the record -- I love this place again since Ace's new banning policy took effect. Now I feel safe to comment more.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:50 PM (qXIIh)

188 183-I am laughing! I was an 18 year old sophomore, so no kids. I can't imagine her patience doing that and taking care of you and your siblings. Huge kudos to her.

Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2015 05:50 PM (x303I)

189 Ah, good. It was 2-2 when I left. I have to look up where in the heck "Lewisberry" is, because I've never heard of it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2015 05:46 PM (FcR7P)


York County, south of Harrisburg.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 05:51 PM (TEpA2)

190 > buzzion at August 29, 2015 05:49 PM (zt+N6)

Sockpuppeting the Dead is despicable.

Posted by: eeew, some people stoop too low at August 29, 2015 05:51 PM (yJyW3)

191 When you're used to the metric economy - the more you spend, the richer you become- this backwards American economy really screws you up!

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 29, 2015 05:51 PM (FcR7P)

192 Now I feel safe to comment more

Don't get too cocky.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (0qASP)

193 Oh, and just for the record -- I love this place
again since Ace's new banning policy took effect. Now I feel safe to
comment more.


Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:50 PM (qXIIh)

That's a banning.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (oVJmc)

194 punchcards were before my time, my older brothers used those. Played a Star Trek game on them. By the time I came along it was Basic. And I took some Pascal in college which I sucked at.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (39g3+)

195 You probably started out with an HP as your first
scientific calculator too. I started with TIs, and HPs just frustrated
the hell out of me.

In the early 90s, I tried to learn that
faster keyboard layout (qwerty was designed to slow typists down so the
keys wouldn't jam); the problem was, you couldn't tote your reprogrammed
keyboard everywhere with you.

Sooner or later, you had to meet a qwerty, and that's when the fight started...


Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2015 05:41 PM (gyKtp)

Yeah, I did, but as I indicated, I think the intuitive nature of it came from having used a slide rule extensively before that.
Re keyboards, I extensively modify MS applications (particularly Word), which expose their objects (?) and allow you to lift the hood and change things around through use of VBA (e.g., menus, hot keys, macros linked on menus etc.)

As a consequence, my system is optimized for my way of working, but it drives other people nuts.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (oKE6c)

196 Willy J, was it a rotary like a Friden or Marchant, or a printer like a Remington 99 or Divisumma 24?

There was a time I worked on those for a living.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (l3vZN)

197 Back in the early 80s I bought a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 2 for my office word processor. My mom had taught typing and really, really wanted to to learn the computer. She kept having trouble logging on the computer and got very frustrated. I could not figure out what was wrong. Then I watched her try to log in, which required typing the date. She was typing a lower case L for 1 as she had been taught. Stupid computer could not handle that. l 1

Posted by: tmitsss at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (L0IIq)

198 This is a bit like how if you put prism glasses on that flip the image you see you will eventually flip it in your head, and then if you take the glasses off it takes a while to flip it back. DO NOT TRY THAT PLEASE. haha

Posted by: Justin at August 29, 2015 05:53 PM (lAtHS)

199 Ah, punch cards and FORTRAN. Put an entry in column 56 instead of column 57 in card 749, and launch thermonuclear war.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:54 PM (oKE6c)

200 The bicycle thing I understand. I learned spanish in my late teens and I remembered having to be willing to make horrible language mistakes, and I had to pile new stuff on top of old stuff in my head. Even now working with a third language (hey, I am an acheiver) makes my brain itch.

There is a term called Code Confusion in (what I call) pragmatic linguistics. the words get tangled up. Now I've been at it for a good long time and can switch back and forth, but there are still times when I get blocked by what the alternate term is in the other language - there are some shortcuts that English has and some that Spanish has, and they can get you haring off down the wrong path.

riding a bike is all learned and I swear is operated at the spinal level, no thinking involved. The way we juggle or dance.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 05:54 PM (3pRHP)

201 195-I miss slide rules. My high school physics teacher was old school, so we used slide rules for that, and the calculus class he taught. When I went to college, we were required to use calculators for calculus, and I had a rough transition. I did most of my homework with the slide rule anyway.

My kids look at me like I'm a relic when I mention this.

Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2015 05:54 PM (x303I)

202 Update Houston: formerly charged shithead they arrested early morning with capital murder. ... and they deny his Mamma turned him in. They simply did a database search in the area of registered red Ford Ranger trucks. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2015 05:55 PM (e7T6D)

203 Anyone know how to add the Helgen Reborn .bsa and .esp files to Skyrim's data files? Drag-and-drop didn't work, and Bethesda hasn't answered my plea for help, so I'm at a loss.

I dunno, you could try to use that Nexus loader but I could not figure out how to make it work. I just dumped the files where they belonged by hand and it works great.

And Nexus Reborn is a really, really good mod.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:55 PM (39g3+)

204 Ah, FORTRAN, that's it. Wasn't there something before that?

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:56 PM (PfVjp)

205 I prefer RPN but can switch when needed. I also started out on a slide rule. Just inherited a 22-inch K&E from a guy who retired, it's in BEAUTIFUL shape.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 05:56 PM (2GbWn)

206 She was typing a lower case L for 1 as she had been taught. Stupid computer could not handle that. l 1

Posted by: tmitsss at August 29, 2015 05:52 PM (L0IIq)

Data downloaded from a Federal office wouldn't parse in a database; turns out the brain trust was using O in place of 0 in numeric fields. Computers no likey. Took a while to figure that one out.

But Obolacare will bend the cost curve down through bringing that vaunted government efficiency to bear.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:56 PM (oKE6c)

207 4:40 p.m.
A 30-year-old man has been charged with capital murder in the ambush of a sheriff's deputy while he was filling his patrol car with gas at a station in suburban Houston.
Harris County Sheriff Ron Hickman identified the man as Shannon J. Miles, who is in police custody.
Hickman says Miles had a previous record including charges of resisting arrest and trespassing.
Authorities said they are not sure of the motive in what Hickman has described as a "cold-blooded assassination" of Deputy Darren Goforth.

http://goo.gl/3odnWO

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 05:57 PM (iQIUe)

208 182 RPN takes a step out in entering long strings of numbers. Not sure where if you are younger than 100 where QWERTY comes in.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:47 PM (nAv2M)

It has to do with how you learn to do things, then trying to learn a new way. That is the topic, I believe.

For example, I'm under 100 and I still hated the way my kids were taught to do basic math. But I had to learn their way to help them, since 'style' mattered on their answers.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2015 05:57 PM (gyKtp)

209 Way off topic but all The Magnum PI episodes are on demand on Encore channel with direct tv. You can tell when the first one was made just by the content if you are old enough.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 05:57 PM (nAv2M)

210 Then I watched her try to log in, which required typing the date. She was typing a lower case L for 1 as she had been taught. Stupid computer could not handle that.

I remember that, very old school. My mom's old manual typewrite was that way. The IMB seletric I learned on with the ball typing head had all the numbers though.

I did most of my homework with the slide rule anyway.

There are still engineers that swear by the thing. Good plan when you're in the middle of the Sahara and your batteries give out or something.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)

211 201 195-I miss slide rules. My high school physics teacher was old school, so we used slide rules for that, and the calculus class he taught. When I went to college, we were required to use calculators for calculus, and I had a rough transition. I did most of my homework with the slide rule anyway.

My kids look at me like I'm a relic when I mention this.
Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2015 05:54 PM (x303I)
---
Hrothgar is teaching his grandkids how to use a slide rule. Got to keep the arcane arts alive!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at August 29, 2015 05:58 PM (jR7Wy)

212 204 Ah, FORTRAN, that's it. Wasn't there something before that?
Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 05:56 PM (PfVjp)



Not as far as I know. It's name, of course, is a contraction of "formula translation," and it was the go-to language for science and engineering programming since before they invented dirt.


You may be thinking of COBOL, which was used in business, but I suspect FORTRAN antedated COBOL.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 05:58 PM (oKE6c)

213 My JC was still using punched cards when I showed up, mostly COBOL and RPG. I had learned BASIC by then, but they soon bought a new machine that could run Algol. That was like reading poetry after having to speak baby-talk.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 05:58 PM (2GbWn)

214 He's a good boy, turning his life around, with an aspiring rap career.

Posted by: Mama Miles at August 29, 2015 05:59 PM (bgR1g)

215 Buzzion --

Yep, I saw that. The problem is that I can't figure out HOW to do it! Drag-and-drop gives me that slashed circle, and putting them in my Skyrim folder does nothing.

"Install manually by placing Helgen Reborn.esp and Helgen Reborn.bsa in your games Data folder or install with Nexus Mod Manager. Generally, all users should install version 105.3."

I also can't get NMM to do anything but tell me I'm not logged in. I'm beginning to think, after months of trying, This Is Impossible!

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 05:59 PM (qXIIh)

216 @203 I use Nexus mod manager. It works without fail. I highly recommend and it's free, but they do accept donations if you like it. Helgen Reborn is a great mod... and at Nexus/skyrim mod page, you'll find a LOT more !

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2015 05:59 PM (e7T6D)

217 Thanks, that jogged my memory. COBAL was after FORTRAN. I remember the grumbling.

Posted by: Infidel at August 29, 2015 06:01 PM (PfVjp)

218 I could not figure out how to get the mod manager to work, at all. But I've had no problems at all just installing things by hand. Some of the mods are less than stable though, and every once in a while there's a combination that doesn't work without warning.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 06:01 PM (39g3+)

219 It has to do with how you learn to do things, then trying to learn a new way. That is the topic, I believe.>>>

I had to relearn to use RPN but because my school and job were entry heavy I switched. If you do a couple calculations a day RPN may not be worth it but if you do 100s its like learning a new language to survive.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:01 PM (nAv2M)

220 211 201 195-I miss slide rules. My high school physics teacher was old school, so we used slide rules for that, and the calculus class he taught. When I went to college, we were required to use calculators for calculus, and I had a rough transition. I did most of my homework with the slide rule anyway.

My kids look at me like I'm a relic when I mention this.

Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2015 05:54 PM (x303I)



I love slide rules. It's obvious how they work, and no power is needed, useful in the zombie apocalypse.


One of my grad students told me she hadn't yet calculated the result of an experiment, so I whipped out my circular pocket slide rule and handed it to her to do the calculation.


She looked at me quizzically as though I'd just handed her a rabbit's foot.


I snatched it back, and did the calculation myself. God, I felt old.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:02 PM (oKE6c)

221 I used slide rule for most things. Had to use the mechanical calculator for surveying. And log tables and trig tables and other tables.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:03 PM (0qASP)

222 Reading about yet another police officer murdered in cold blood.. makes my heart just hurt but also makes me very very angry. I am, at this point ready to say..you want a race war?.. bring it baby. I'm more than fed up and God help, me I feel awful for thinking this.. but the backlash is coming and I almost welcome it. I've had enough. I hate what this country has become and it's all Obamas fault and Holder and everyone else in this horrid administration. I'm sorry.. I am not very eloquent and I'm sure that came out all wrong. My heart is just heavy today

Posted by: jewells45 at August 29, 2015 06:03 PM (/IQip)

223 I bought, used and threw away 3 TI-30 calculators my senior HS year. (#$&!@ #5 key broke!!!)

I use a HP-41 and HP-11 from college. They are older than half the engineers I work with.

Posted by: rd at August 29, 2015 06:03 PM (qidv2)

224 205 I prefer RPN but can switch when needed. I also started out on a slide rule. Just inherited a 22-inch KE from a guy who retired, it's in BEAUTIFUL shape.
Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 05:56 PM (2GbWn)




Oooh, envy!


I lost mine in the course of several trans- and inter-continental moves, but I hope someday I'll find it at the bottom of a box somewhere. I still have a couple small circular slide rules, though.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:04 PM (oKE6c)

225 Oh and with computers and Exel RPN does not matter anymore. When a handheld calculator was the main tool it did.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:04 PM (nAv2M)

226 225 Oh and with computers and Exel RPN does not matter anymore. When a handheld calculator was the main tool it did.
Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:04 PM (nAv2M)



I find Excel a bit tedious for many calculations, as I spend half my time looking up the name of the function and the requisite syntax.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:07 PM (oKE6c)

227 218, logging into NMM in lower left of screen, right? Also you really need to run skyrim SKSE to sort and load the mods. It is a huge sabilizer for mods. I'll put my email in my nic if you want more help with NMM. I had the same trouble as you early on with manual installs, and that's what lead me to NMM and SKSE.

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2015 06:07 PM (e7T6D)

228 Wow, they're just teeing off on Trump on Fox. Snark, and attempts to be arch and bitingly sarcastic. I really appreciate it, Greg, you f***witted mannequin. You don't have the brains for it, so stfu.

I can't stand Trump, but these asswipes are enough to make me support him just for spite.

Posted by: pep at August 29, 2015 06:08 PM (LAe3v)

229 I bought one of those programmable TI calculators when they first came out. 30 steps max I believe. I loved that thing. It never gave me any trouble.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:08 PM (0qASP)

230
FORTRAN, that's it. Wasn't there something before that?
Posted by: Infidel

Not as far as I know.
Posted by: Jay Guevara



Well, assembly.

And before that, op-code I think it was called. Just a series of hex numbers that the computer could understand. The gloss of what those numbers meant was in off-computer comments for the program.

And before that, to program you moved around patch cords or -- for analog computers -- dialed in new values and pulled levers.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2015 06:09 PM (kdS6q)

231 Does anyone else have trouble remembering whether x^y is (first entry)^(second entry) or the other way 'round? I assume it's the former, but I invariably put in 2^3 to make sure.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:10 PM (oKE6c)

232 231: Nah, X is always the one in the display.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (2GbWn)

233 Does anyone else have trouble remembering whether
x^y is (first entry)^(second entry) or the other way 'round? I assume
it's the former, but I invariably put in 2^3 to make sure.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:10 PM (oKE6c)


I once knew calculus, but wouldn't know how to do it now.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (TEpA2)

234 I find Excel a bit tedious for many calculations, as I spend half my
time looking up the name of the function and the requisite syntax.>>>

Which was my point, if calculations are a small part of your day. A TI calculator or the windows accessories one will do. If you have to do 100s you will get an HP or learn Exel language.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (nAv2M)

235 Yip --
Yes, that's where the "not logged in" message appeared. Tried to e-mail you, but got a 404 error.

I'm empire1003 at hushmail dot com, if you'd rather reply there.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (qXIIh)

236 x (enter) y (x^y)

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (NaeCR)

237 The first computer I saw was a paper punch tape feed with typewriter output. Took up a whole room.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (0qASP)

238 231 Y is the first entry. (3, enter, 2, X^y) And yes I check by using something like 2^3 or 10^2.

Posted by: rd at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (qidv2)

239 Fun videos -- thanks, NDH,

Narnia fans -- at the end of the "smarter every day" video, there is a figure that looks like Reepicheep to me.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (27veP)

240 232 231: Nah, X is always the one in the display.
Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (2GbWn)



Makes sense. It's just a mental tic of mine, as I suspected.


But I'm still gonna first try 2^3, just to make sure.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (oKE6c)

241 Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (27veP)



Explain????

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:13 PM (TEpA2)

242
Actually, hex numbers might have been a step up. In the early digital computers, it might have been straight binary.

And bring back mercury delay lines. That was such an awesome antiquated memory technology.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 29, 2015 06:13 PM (kdS6q)

243 Oh, boy. Once my son (who's autistic) managed to somehow "mirror-flip" the computer screen, so everything looked both upside down AND right-to left, if you know what I mean. I had no idea how to fix it. All I could do was to try to shut the computer down, but the Windows icon was now in the top right corner, and the mouse arrow was moving BACKWARDS as I tried to slowly guide it to that spot. I had to move the mouse the opposite direction of where I really wanted the cursor to go. The motor function part of my brain kept yelling "No! No! The OTHER way!" while the conscious part of my brain kept yelling back "Just DO it! Believe me, it'll work!" Meanwhile, my son was marching around behind me in great excitement at his coup, shouting "Upside down! Upside down!"

Posted by: Lola Heatherington, Bounching Back to You at August 29, 2015 06:13 PM (VBbCO)

244 Meet the new Humvee, expected to serve in Israel
New all-terrain vehicle, partly made by Israeli company Plasan, wins deal to replace Humvee with 55,000 units by 2040.

Wonder if Fredo will give any to Iran and further screw Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 06:14 PM (DUoqb)

245 238 231 Y is the first entry. (3, enter, 2, X^y) And yes I check by using something like 2^3 or 10^2.

Posted by: rd at August 29, 2015 06:12 PM (qidv2)

OOOOPPPPSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except on my HP-41 it is Y^x, doh!!!

So it is 2, enter, 3 Y^X on an HP-41.

Posted by: rd at August 29, 2015 06:15 PM (qidv2)

246 Which was my point, if calculations are a small part
of your day. A TI calculator or the windows accessories one will do. If
you have to do 100s you will get an HP or learn Exel language.


Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:11 PM (nAv2M)

That's worthwhile if you're doing the same calculation over and over with different arguments, but for doing a series of unrelated one-off ones, I find it faster just to use the Windows calculator in RPN mode.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:15 PM (oKE6c)

247 Wait if I confuse X and Y will I ever be able to calculate an answer in any machine?

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:16 PM (nAv2M)

248 @235, email on the way

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2015 06:16 PM (e7T6D)

249 Except on my HP-41 it is Y^x, doh!!!



So it is 2, enter, 3 Y^X on an HP-41.

Posted by: rd at August 29, 2015 06:15 PM (qidv2)

AH! I feel vindicated! For all these years I'd considered I was engaging in a superstitious ritual like not stepping on cracks in a sidewalk, but now I appreciate that it was perfectly rational thing to do. Thank you!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:17 PM (oKE6c)

250 Of course the "backwards bike" is hard to do (if not impossible for some).

That's because you are fighting physics when you try.

And it's why bikes aren't designed that way. Or much of any other mode of transport. Although a boat comes close because it steers from the stern.

"Tha's jus ignint sir"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 29, 2015 06:17 PM (x3GpS)

251 >>Spears are the single most common weapon in the fucking history of fucking man-kind. What the fucking fuck already.

Excellent point!!

>>I can't stand Trump, but these asswipes are enough to make me support him just for spite.

THIS.
It's Palin all over again. What, do they miss being the cool kids at high school who get to decide who sits at the "cool" table and who gets pantsed at the pep rally? If you ever needed proof that the media sees themselves as the ones who must "guide" us to make the right choices, this is it. Grow up.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 06:17 PM (NOIQH)

252 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 06:14 PM (DUoqb)




I hope you're doing well.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:18 PM (TEpA2)

253 Forgot to change that sock. Lola's resting in her dressing room now.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at August 29, 2015 06:18 PM (VBbCO)

254 Yo' sride lure not as fast as my abacus, lound-eye!

Posted by: Long Dong Fong, Stereotypical Chinaman at August 29, 2015 06:18 PM (oVJmc)

255 Posted by: Jay Guevara>>>

I believe I am confusing your argument. So probably you are right and I'm just my normal state of confused.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:19 PM (nAv2M)

256 For calculations over 21, I have to use my Wang.

Posted by: Long Dong Fong, Stereotypical Chinaman at August 29, 2015 06:19 PM (oVJmc)

257 4:40 p.m.
A 30-year-old man has been charged with capital murder in the ambush of a sheriff's deputy while he was filling his patrol car with gas at a station in suburban Houston.
Harris County Sheriff Ron Hickman identified the man as Shannon J. Miles, who is in police custody.
Hickman says Miles had a previous record including charges of resisting arrest and trespassing.
Authorities said they are not sure of the motive in what Hickman has described as a "cold-blooded assassination" of Deputy Darren Goforth.

http://goo.gl/3odnWO

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 29, 2015 05:57 PM (iQIUe)

Farrakhan's 10,000 are starting to out themselves. Every one of them, AND their supporters, should be strung up like the animals they are. I just don't give a shit about wide swaths of this country anymore.

Posted by: Blano at August 29, 2015 06:19 PM (heN73)

258 So what happened to Nip Sip?

Posted by: Hecter at August 29, 2015 06:20 PM (u5gzz)

259 Vendette, explain the nic change, or explain Reepicheep?

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:21 PM (27veP)

260 Posted by: Lola Heatherington, Bounching Back to You at August 29, 2015 06:13 PM (VBbCO)


Right click on the desktop and change the video settings if you have an nVidia controller card. That's probably what he did.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 29, 2015 06:21 PM (oKE6c)

261 Vendette, explain the nic change, or explain Reepicheep?

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:21 PM (27veP)


I'm sorry, I'm the same as I was.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:22 PM (TEpA2)

262 I hope you're doing well.
Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:18 PM (TEpA2)

Outstanding. Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2015 06:24 PM (DUoqb)

263 It's Palin all over again. What, do they miss being the cool kids at high school who get to decide who sits at the "cool" table and who gets pantsed at the pep rally? If you ever needed proof that the media sees themselves as the ones who must "guide" us to make the right choices, this is it. Grow up.

Posted by: Lizzy


It started with Palin, but they continued the game in 2012, methodically picking off every conservative challenger to Romney until he was all that was left. Now they're trying the same tactic on Trump. They're like Belloq in Raider of the Lost Ark, saying to the base, 'Again we see there is nothing you can possess which I cannot take away. ' One wants to support Trump just to wipe that smirk off their faces.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at August 29, 2015 06:26 PM (VBbCO)

264 "the Houston Shooter? his mother says he couldn't have done it because he was with her all night / he has been arrested, which means she lied. they need to charge her too"

People will continue to behave badly until bad behavior is disincentivized.

Except that it's not being thus disincentivized.

Over and over in these cases, we have people from the black community lying to law enforcement, and/or lying under oath on the stand in court, but they're never prosecuted for false statements to police or for perjury under oath.

Rachel Jeantel and her handwritten deposition about the Martin-Zimmerman fracas, that she couldn't even read. Dorian Johnson claiming that Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown in the back as Brown fled with his hands in the air. The family of Vonderrit Myers claiming that he hadn't had a gun in his hand, only a sammich. (A sammich that magically managed to fire several 9mm rounds into a police vehicle and the wall behind it.)

All of it lying bullshit from the get-go. None of it ever punished because of the tenderhearted refusal of the "justice system" to treat black crime as sternly as it treats crime committed by those of other ethnicities.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 29, 2015 06:26 PM (noWW6)

265 I still use a slide rule for some basic arithmetic, just for fun. Last time I actually used it was when I took my General class ham license exam. (Yeah, I got 'looks' from the youngsters and smiles from the test administrators.)

Punch cards for COBOL programs, 100 baud couplers, user manuals that began by telling the client how to turn on the dumb terminal, etc.

But the kicker is my earlier manuals and contract writing was hand written and given to the ladies in the typing pool. Mrs. JTB had to use short hand as part of her office duties.

Posted by: JTB at August 29, 2015 06:26 PM (FvdPb)

266 260 - Thanks Jay, I'll file that away for future reference should it happen again. He would have done it just by accident, and since he doesn't have language skills, couldn't tell us what he'd done.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at August 29, 2015 06:28 PM (VBbCO)

267 >>>261 Vendette, explain the nic change, or explain Reepicheep?

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:21 PM (27veP)

I'm sorry, I'm the same as I was.
Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:22 PM (TEpA2)
---
Now I'm confused. I thought you were asking me to explain my comment about Reepicheep.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:28 PM (27veP)

268 Let me help. I think Vendette was asking why are you going to change your nic?

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:32 PM (0qASP)

269 Now I'm confused. I thought you were asking me to explain my comment about Reepicheep.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:28 PM (27veP)


Oh dear, no. I have no clue what what means. No nic change either. Just me.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:32 PM (TEpA2)

270 Mindy, sorry to be dense.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:34 PM (TEpA2)

271 Vendette, I am changing my nic for better anonymity when referring family members to this site. Right now I am transitioning so people know what happened to "Mindy."

The backwards bicycle video ends by showing the website name with a little drawing that looks like the warrior mouse Reepicheep from the Chronicles of Narnia.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:35 PM (27veP)

272 Vendette, I am changing my nic for better anonymity
when referring family members to this site. Right now I am
transitioning so people know what happened to "Mindy."



The backwards bicycle video ends by showing the website name with a
little drawing that looks like the warrior mouse Reepicheep from the
Chronicles of Narnia.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:35 PM (27veP)


Best wishes, and sorry I didn't recognize the reference.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:36 PM (TEpA2)

273 I still use a slide rule for some basic arithmetic, just for fun. Last time I actually used it was when I took my General class ham license exam.
---------

I was in school when the first affordable scientific calculators became available. The prof in one of my classes gave a bonus of 3 points on tests IF you used a slide rule.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 06:37 PM (9mTYi)

274 Wish I had seen this in time for the gardening thread. Y-not needs in that lovely new backyard:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/27/
front-lawn-dinosaurs-cause-stir-texas-neighborhood/32466803/

Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2015 06:37 PM (NOIQH)

275 I can't stand Trump, but these asswipes are enough to make me support him just for spite.

I think that's happening with a lot of people. The more sneering arrogant condescending elitist crap thrown at him by rich powerful people the more likable he becomes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 29, 2015 06:37 PM (39g3+)

276 But, Mindy, I will never remember and will think you are gone forever.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:37 PM (0qASP)

277 I still use a slide rule for some basic arithmetic>>>


I have Vernier Caliper that I like to hand to young engineers when they ask me for a caliper. Same with the old timey micrometers they have no clue how to read them.

And yes I use the digital ones myself for most work. But I keep the old ones around in case a battery fails.

Posted by: Willy J at August 29, 2015 06:37 PM (nAv2M)

278 Vendette, I'm responding to your comment 241.

Perhaps all the talk about x and y has transported us to another dimension where communication is as confusing as an inverse function!

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:38 PM (27veP)

279 Vic used a stick to perform calculations in the dirt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 29, 2015 06:38 PM (9mTYi)

280 Vendette, I'm responding to your comment 241.



Perhaps all the talk about x and y has transported us to another
dimension where communication is as confusing as an inverse function!

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:38 PM (27veP)


And add Z for NGU.

Posted by: Vendette at August 29, 2015 06:41 PM (TEpA2)

281 Ronster, if I recall, you are on the invite list for our Colorado Morondezvous. Perhaps when we meet personally you will remember me by whatever name sticks!

Next Morondezvous is in Sept or Oct. if you are not on the Morondezvous yahoo group, we need to fix that.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:42 PM (27veP)

282 In my college days, we used a balance beam scale with weights and a little wire rider to get the last digit. Also counted the swings of the pointer. Only took about 10 minutes to weigh something you can accomplish in seconds now.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:42 PM (0qASP)

283 Used a slide rule in high school chemistry. Calculators were just becoming available then, but scientific ones were rare. Not many high schoolers knew the slip stick, I'd run rings around them doing perfect gas law calculations. Sadly have not used it much since then, got a Corvus 500 soon afterwards which only succumbed to leaky batteries a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2015 06:43 PM (2GbWn)

284 280
Heh. Now I need you to explain what NGU stands for, please.

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:43 PM (27veP)

285 Aarrrghh. Just sat down to eat my BLT and Susan Estrrrrriiiiccchhh is on Fox News. Think I'll wait to eat. Have to go throw up a bit.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 29, 2015 06:44 PM (EWr9w)

286 Thanks Mindy.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 06:44 PM (0qASP)

287 Well, I must keep moving. It was nice chatting with y'all!

Posted by: Mindy, soon to be Emmie at August 29, 2015 06:46 PM (27veP)

288 nooooooouuu 4U

Posted by: MAx at August 29, 2015 06:49 PM (LAliD)

289 My sincere gratitude to Yip, who coached this oldphart through things I couldn't figure out without help. If I ever meet him/her IRL, a nice restaurant meal is on me.

I now know how to log into NMM, find the necessary files, and put them into the data file on Skyrim. Yip has given me something I've been looking for for a very long time, and I want to express proper gratitude.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 29, 2015 06:53 PM (qXIIh)

290 Somehow using an electronic scale makes me feel like i am cheating.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2015 06:57 PM (3pRHP)

291 Somehow using an electronic scale makes me feel like i am cheating.

Heh. I never felt that way. Always had a smile on my face when using the more modern scale.

Posted by: Ronster at August 29, 2015 07:02 PM (0qASP)

292 One or two kids had the early, 4 function calculators my senior year of HS. They were expensive gifts, usually from a grandparent. The rest of us used slip sticks or pencil and paper.

I still prefer a beam scale and analog calipers and micrometers for hand loading. They haven't let me down in thirty years. If I had to use these tools for work instead of a hobby, that would be a different matter. Like photography, I prefer film as a hobby. As a job it would be digital.

Posted by: JTB at August 29, 2015 07:16 PM (FvdPb)

293 Empire1, very gracious. You are welcome!

Posted by: Yip at August 29, 2015 07:44 PM (e7T6D)

294 Digital scales are great for helping a scratch cook, using a dash if this and splash of that, to reduce those efforts to very accurate recipes.

No, you don't measure what you're putting in the cooking, that'd defeat the intuitive cook.

Rather, you weigh the "before and after" of each ingredient, and convert the resulting difference to standard cooking weights and measures.

It's of the most value when measuring amounts of various seasonings that go into the pot, skillet or such.

If you can get Aunt Mabel to make that dish that nobody can duplicate, and can get to all the ingredients to make the "before/after" measurements, you're well on the way to preserving some valuable family recipes.

And for hand loading ammo? Gimme the manual calipers & micrometer, but I'll go with the digital scales every time. Speedy, and helps reduce human error to the bare minimum.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2015 07:56 PM (McRlu)

295 Destin's smarter every day videos are awesome. The episode about the mantis shrim was killer!

Posted by: daesleeper at August 29, 2015 09:47 PM (7Iwef)

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