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Opening Night Of GOP Debate Season!
It's Political Nerd Christmas! And it's made all the more festive thanks to the inclusion of Santa Trump!
If you think Political Nerd Christmas is coming earlier and earlier, you're actually wrong. In 2011, we were on our THIRD national debate by August 11th. Obviously the wait has made the anticipation stronger, so to get you through the day until 9pm eastern tonight, some thoughts on what may happen and what each candidate is looking to do. Conventional wisdom says everything revolves around the classy and luxurious 800 pound gorilla in the room. But what does Trump need from tonight? Not much I'd argue. He's at or near the top of every poll, he's sucked all the oxygen out of the race and his biggest danger is people might actually listening to something he says on an issue. That's assuming he has something to say beyond, "I will solve that problem and it'll be amazing. I tell you, amazing."The early thinking was that he would serve as a punching bag for everyone else but that was before he really started dominating the polls. I'm not sure there's any reason for anyone to go after him. He's willing to say something dumber and more insulting than any regular politician is willing to say back so picking a fight with him basically turns you into Tim Pawlenty at some point. That's never a good look. My guess is the moderators (Brett Baier, Chris Wallace, and especially Megyn Kelly) will do the heavy lifting of going after Trump so let them. Besides, who gains from it? Christie and Kasich might be willing to battle with Trump but that's just because they are combative pricks. The problem is there's no political advantage to being a Trump antagonist. If there were, Rick Perry and Lindsey Graham might have been able to make the big show. But notice they weren't. Trump might just get a pass out of tonight from other candidates. Or he might not be able to help himself and the whole thing devolves into a literal fist-fight with ten of them rolling around on the stage like the end of a WWE show. It could go either way. Don't try this sort of analysis at home, I'm a semi-trained professional after all. As for the rest: Jeb! needs to not look like a puppet of the rich GOP donor class who can't actually talk or think on his feet. He's not having a great week what with the generally unimpressive performance in NH and the War on Women gift to Hillary. CNN covered the gaffe, showed a bite from Hillary attacking him over it and then ran about 90 seconds of him saying dumb stuff. It was amazing. We're not at do or die time for him by any means but Jeb! has to get it in gear at some point. Tonight would be a good time for him to start.
Scott Walker: As I've said before, he's always just sort of there. I want more from the guy but that's not him. His approach has worked ok thus far so I imagine we'll get more of the same tonight. He'll talk about winning not just fighting and beating the unions. Hopefully he won't have time to tell his Kohl's shirt story. Solid and steady is the game plan and no one has managed to throw him off it yet. There's no real reason for anyone to go after him at this point so I doubt that will change tonight.
Mike Huckabee: Hey, did you know he's running? Well he is. Seriously. I know, right? Not sure what the point is but he's here. His big contribution will likely be as a foil for Christie on entitlements. Huck, like Trump, is in the "don't you dare touch them" camp so this will likely be an area where it's possible to get some actual policy daylight between candidates.
Chris Christie: I'm just putting him here because of what I wrote about Huckabee. I could see Christie going after Trump but I think Huck is the more likely target. It will depend on the how the moderators set it up. It'll be interesting to see if Christie's "I'm here to tell you hard truths about entitlements" shtick leads to an opening for any of the other candidates to say, "Well, if you're the entitlement spending sheriff how come you embraced ObamaCare's Medicaid expansion that's driving up the debt?" I'm sure he has some tough talking comeback ready for that but I think a lot of voters just starting to pay attention will be interested to hear that Christie has embraced Obama's boondoggle. Though of course it's not the only time Christie has embraced Obama.
John Kasich: Seriously Republicans? This guy? You put this guy in the debate over Rick Perry and have pushed him into 2nd in New Hampshire? He's Jon Huntsman without the dirt bike and winning personality. Another ObamaCare supporter because God wants him to, the guy will spin all sorts of BS about his big reelection win in Ohio (his opponent imploded when it turned out he was basically a griffter). He did an end run around the GOP legislature to implement ObamaCare in Ohio and it's already well over budget. He's defense of this is the lame and false, "well, it's just the people of Ohio getting their money back." Again, SERIOUSLY GOP?
Rand Paul: As a Rand Paul guy all I hope is tonight isn't the night the unpinned hand grenade goes off. Trump helps him not be the focus of establishment ire but also hurts him by not enabling him to be the go to guy for the pissed off crowd. It was always going to be a high-wire act for Paul and in a crowded field he's struggled to gain traction after a good start (go ask Debbie-Wasserman Schultz about abortion!). Best case scenario is he continues to find ways to synthesize his libertarian roots with more mainstream conservatism. In small bites he might come off reasonable enough to get a look from some people. The danger is too much focus on the NSA and he doesn't sound tough enough on Iran (though if he's too tough on Iran, libertarian types get mad).
Ted Cruz: The issue of the moment for conservatives is Planned Parenthood. This plays into his wheel house more than others. I imagine he's hoping that one of the moderators or another candidate will bring up his calling Mitch McConnell a liar. If they don't, he should. As long as he doesn't lapse into Senate speak (and that's not his style) when talking about it, punching McConnell will be a big hit.
Marco Rubio: It's kind of slipping away or at least not moving forward for him. The growth of Trump has hurt him by sucking up attention and potential supporters but also by putting the focus on amnesty. That's never a good thing for Rubio. He'll want to avoid that as much as possible tonight and focus on how much he loves America (bold!) and how awful the Iran deal is.
Ben Carson: Tonight's going to be the high-water mark for the guy. He's parlayed a speech at a prayer breakfast into a sort of campaign. The exciting thing about that speech was that he called Obama out to his face. People liked that. A lot. But now there's someone else in the "I'm the successful outsider who will take it to the big guys" niche and a lot of GOP voters are more in the mood to tell the GOP off than Obama at the moment. After tonight a lot of people will be left wondering who this guy is and how the hell he did he get on that stage when Perry and Bobby Jindal didn't. He'll likely let slip some of more liberal positions, say on guns, and that will be all she wrote for him. Oh yeah, there's a bunch of not very classy losers debating at 5pm. Guys like Perry are saying it will be more substantive than the clown show at 9 so he's pretty excited about that. Spoiler: Nope. Look, I'm with the margin of error of the people in the 5pm debate. No one cares and none of them are going anywhere. Their best bet is to hope Carson gets bored or falls out of the Top 10 and they can make the next debate (though I'm not sure they've announced how that one is working yet).
Think of it as the Play-In game for the NCAA tournament. Sure, if you win you get to go to the big dance but you're still a 16th seed sacrificial lamb. Naturally we'll have coverage tonight at the HQ. What that means, I haven't a clue.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 10:14 AM (OY/Og)
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at August 06, 2015 10:14 AM (myGBe)
Posted by: Charlemagne at August 06, 2015 10:14 AM (x1nEr)
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at August 06, 2015 10:15 AM (myGBe)
By the way, where's Trey Gowdy these days?
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 10:16 AM (OY/Og)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 06, 2015 10:19 AM (j4Cu5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 10:16 AM (OY/Og)
On an epic quest, searching high and low for the perfect hair comb.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:20 AM (6JL3d)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:20 AM (kff5f)
I'm thinking the FOX clowns are going to go after Trump and they are going to look like chumps, especially that phoney Megan Kelley.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:20 AM (JbETL)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:20 AM (kff5f)
I'd really rather he not.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (evdj2)
WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP TAUNTING ME!
Speaking of literal fist fights, I now want a Biden Trump debate like I want a manatee with a flamethrower because there is a 100% chance that someone will call someone else a lying motherfucker and then punches will be thrown and someone is going to be short some hair plugs before the night is over.
If you tell me you don't want to see that, you're lying.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:22 AM (evdj2)
He's got more fun than anybody's had,
Don't got no worry, don't got no dough,
Everybody's wondering 'bout Mexican Joe.
In old Mexico, they call him the Rhumba King,
Leads all the women around on a string,
When they go out, they get a million thrills,
But the lovely senoritas wind up with the bills.
Dancin', romancin',
Always on the go,
Sun shinin' down on Mexican Joe
He makes the night spots all along the bay,
People want to see him when he comes their way,
He spreads so much joy everywhere he goes,
Everyone shouts "Viva la Mexican Joe."
He likes to gamble, at poker he's an ace,
He's always lucky with the cards that got a face,
At winning the money, he is sure a whiz,
But when they win they don't collect
'cause they don't know where he is.
Dancin', romancin',
Always on the go,
Sun shinin' down on Mexican Joe
He don't no income tax 'cause he don't got no dough,
Still he gets along just fine, how we'll never know,
He's got everything he wants, a girl, a drink, a song,
If we use his formula, we surely can't go wrong.
His favorite playground is anywhere there's girls,
He's got that somethin' that sets their hearts a-whirl,
It couldn't be his money 'cause he ain't got a peso,
But when he wants a kiss all he's got to do is say so
Dancin', romancin',
Always on the go,
Sun shinin' down on Mexican Joe
Posted by: Zombie Jim Reeves at August 06, 2015 10:22 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: The DOPe at August 06, 2015 10:22 AM (kff5f)
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Chris Christie?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:22 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:23 AM (hUdMz)
It's a fucking circus, without all the good parts like tigers and cotton candy.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:23 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Blano at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (w1ewr)
HA! You misspelled YUGE as a-m-a-z-i-n-g.......
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (zPc5p)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (fWAjv)
like I want a manatee with a flamethrower because there is a 100% chance
that someone will call someone else a lying motherfucker and then
punches will be thrown and someone is going to be short some hair plugs
before the night is over.
If you tell me you don't want to see that, you're lying.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (mf5HN)[i/]
Want to see what, the Biden-Trump fisticuffs or the manatee with the flamethrower?
Personally, I'm all about the manatee with the flamethrower.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (6JL3d)
Welcome to Team Burn it Down.
Here, have a hat.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Fritz at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (6JL3d)
Posted by: joe at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (34w2E)
Posted by: Blano at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (w1ewr)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:23 AM (/kI1Q)
But plenty of clowns. And apparently a high-wire artist...
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Blano at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM (w1ewr)
Youse could'a been a contenduh!!
Posted by: Terry Malloy at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (GMJgv)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (5weRM)
Posted by: physics geek at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: victoria at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (NPMQN)
We can Hordesource the flamethrower, as long as she doesn't move to Maryland or California.
http://is.gd/uNdqCL
Manatee may be a touch more difficult.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:27 AM (evdj2)
But not the good kind with balloon animals and water-squirting flowers in their lapels.
They should all enter the stage in a single SMART[sic] car.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:28 AM (/kI1Q)
If you tell me you don't want to see that, you're lying.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (mf5HN)
It would be the second biggest pay-per-view event in history, topped only by the video of Regis and Kathy Lee chained to a VW Bug being shoved off of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Posted by: physics geek at August 06, 2015 10:28 AM (MT22W)
I've already seen Trump take apart his performance as Governor of NJ it's not pretty.
So I think everyone is going to be a bit leary about taking on the Donald.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:28 AM (JbETL)
Lindsey Graham: I see you shiver with anticip....pation.
Me: Actually, that was a spasm of revulsion.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 10:28 AM (E5UB0)
Drink THE FIRST TIME:
1. Donald Trump mentions his wealth, or how smart he is.
*please horde, just don't. I like some of you folks too much to see you taken by cirrhosis.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 10:29 AM (fWAjv)
We can Hordesource the flamethrower, as long as she doesn't move to Maryland or California.
http://is.gd/uNdqCL
Manatee may be a touch more difficult.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (/kI1Q)
Blue Spring State Park, Florida. You'll have to come at night after all the tourists have gone home and you can sneak up on the manatees while they're asleep.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:29 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:29 AM (VcOqI)
http://is.gd/uNdqCL
Manatee may be a touch more difficult.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (/kI1Q)
..............How is this lega- no, I don't even care, I want one, legalities be damned. @_@ Holy crap, I'd totally use that to shovel the sidewalk in winter. Imagine a stream of flame on a cold winter's night, lighting up the serene winter wonderland, all the birds and deer wondering what the blue hell is going on at that house and holy crap let's get outta here.
I need to save money to buy one of those. o_o I have to have it.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:29 AM (VcOqI)
Don't bother, they're here. Or will be at 9:00 Eastern time.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (NOIQH)
I got the perfect transmission for him in my garage from my first car. No first and fourth gear, or reverse.
Posted by: se pa moron at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (xQX/f)
In return, look for Trump to call their supposed conservative bonafides excrement, and to deny a third party agenda. If he attacks the GOP establishment and the untrustworthyness of the media it will be scored a win.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (myGBe)
Hardly a loser.
Posted by: Cheri at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (oiNtH)
Or pay a Floridian a pack of Kools to grab you one.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (5weRM)
Jeb will hawk t-shirts tonight - hopefully without stammering this time. Oh, and don't forget the avocado bowl.
Dr. Carson - Very intelligent man. But I think he is out of his element and won't last too much longer. Too bad. I hope there is a cabinet post for him someday.
Come on Carly - we need you to hit one out of the park tonight. Decent executive experience - international experience at that.
Walker and Cruz - I'm looking at them perhaps playing it safe tonight. Get a few soundbites in there, but hoping others trip up thereby moving more points in their direction.
Did I say Come on Carly!
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: physics geek at August 06, 2015 10:26 AM (MT22W)
You will accept our slate of Establishment Chosen Ones, or you may desist with your voting and pony up some Donor-level $$$$$, Sir/Madam! We have power to accrue, you know!
BTW Good fellow, do you have any Grey Poupon? My watercress sandwiches are intolerably dry without it! *adjusts monocle* There's a good lad, there!
Posted by: The Notorious GOPe at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (GMJgv)
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 06, 2015 10:32 AM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: joe at August 06, 2015 10:25 AM (34w2E)
When somebody speaks, drink.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:32 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Old Hob at August 06, 2015 10:32 AM (Z+7WE)
Just to add my two cents though -- I've met Rand in person several times now, and I think he's much more dynamic and interesting in person. On TV, he kind of comes across as... underwhelming.
Not sure how that dynamic will play out on a debate stage.
I'm sure everyone is happy there isn't a 6'3 Mitt Romney staring at them and grilling them the entire time they're trying to formulate their answers though.
Instead they get Trump.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:32 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (6JL3d)
Still have that South African car flamethrower on my wish list.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 10:32 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Cheri at August 06, 2015 10:33 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: physics geek at August 06, 2015 10:28 AM (MT22W)
Must-See TV!!
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at August 06, 2015 10:33 AM (zPc5p)
Posted by: The Notorious GOPe at August 06, 2015 10:31 AM (GMJgv)
Wiener. https://goo.gl/aMN5C4
Posted by: physics geek at August 06, 2015 10:33 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (VcOqI)
If you want to win, capture the imagination of the public by laying out a vision they can easily understand would work.
Trump shot to the front by saying he'll build a wall to stop illegals. People believe he can do it, so he's ahead.
Everyone else is mumbling about this or that policy, or how flat tax on a postcard is going to make things all better. Fuck. Who advises these guys? Oh wait, I know. Steve Schmidt.
If there was one smart person in tonight's debate, they would lay out an idea that would make people forget who else was on the stage. It would be all the media would talk about. If a question was asked of another candidate, it would be about the idea.
Make history. Be bold.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (P/xrJ)
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (JbETL)
First person who goes after him hard on this gets points from me.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (OGm46)
Donald Trump
Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Old Hob at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (Z+7WE)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (hUdMz)
Probably.
And this is why I hate these silly debates -- instead of "introducing the country to the candidates" it's all about the moderators setting candidates up to say something inarticulate, then grab a soundbite, then -- well, binders full of women.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (AkOaV)
Manatee flambe yummy......
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (S+el1)
Don't let Wendell the Manatee hear you say stuff like that. Wendell is a badass manatee.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:36 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 06, 2015 10:36 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (hUdMz)
But Kasich's the only one who can save us from GOP hardliners. Hector said so.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (JbETL)
It always is!
The moderators of every debate I've ever watched clearly have one or two people they want to help, and they want to destroy everyone else and trip them up in to saying something they can put in a soundbite and spent the next news cycle or two responding to, in serious ways.
These aren't debates. I don't know what they're called, but debate is not the right word.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (AkOaV)
I need to save money to buy one of those. o_o I have to have it.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:30 AM (6JL3d)
Speaking of flamethrower as snow removal device:
http://fmobserver.com/fargo-man-arrested-for-clearing-snow-with-flamethrower/
Money quote: "Fox stated that he was simply 'fed up with battling the elements' and that he did not possess the willpower necessary to move 'four billion tons of white bull shit'".
Fess up. Which one of you is that?
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:35 AM (hUdMz)
A measure of the man that Trump is taken more seriously than Kasich.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (JvPqF)
70 Hold my beer and watch this.
Donald Trump
Change it to "Hey y'all, watch this", with a beer in hand and a US Confederate flags in the background while he tears into SCOAMT, jebbie et al - debate over.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Paul at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (MO6az)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (VAsIq)
If you tell me you don't want to see that, you're lying.
^^^^
Yeeeeeeessssss. This. Every single word. In fact. I would pay money to see it.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (KkVB6)
Frank Putz...
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (hUdMz)
"Show of hands, who here has a functioning cerebral cortex? . . . Okay, who here knows what a cerebral cortex is? . . . Okay, who here can hear me speaking right now . . ."
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (zt+N6)
Scott Walker: As I've said before, he's always just sort of there.
Scott Walker - Thomas Dewey without that "edgy" quality.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (kdS6q)
Which is probably why we will never see this format.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (zt+N6)
Baier isn't bad, but the other two....
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (VcOqI)
"Who's doing the raping?"
Trump 2016
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (5weRM)
Personally, I'm all about the manatee with the flamethrower.
His name is Bounder. He's real. And he's spectacular.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: eman at August 06, 2015 10:41 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:41 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Trump 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:41 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:42 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 06, 2015 10:42 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at August 06, 2015 10:42 AM (lU0bX)
All these people are stoopped and all of us in Brattleboro will not waste electricity to watch this bilge. We will planning for the gay Pride day parade for our town. We are doing something to help a minority. What have you done to help Persons of color and persons with alternative sexual orientation????
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 06, 2015 10:42 AM (lNSdJ)
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:39 AM (zt+N6)
Baier isn't bad, but the other two....
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:40 AM (hUdMz)
Wallace is the worst. But do you think Baier is a conservative?
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:42 AM (zt+N6)
Selective Ambushes.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:43 AM (5weRM)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:41 AM (VcOqI)
I would fall off my chair laughing if he started talking about gardening as a metaphor for government.
That is, I would if I bothered to watch this farce, which I don't intend to.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:43 AM (JvPqF)
Trump has also layed out a simplified tax plan as well.
So again a serious debate can be had if the "moderators" want to have a serious debate.
But I don't think they do.
FOX news is the information buero of GOPe so I expect them to be the good little foot soldiers and try to throw sticks into the Donald's wheels.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:44 AM (JbETL)
I'd like to see Reid brought onto the stage hog tied. Then have the candidates say: "Hey, Harry, here's my impression of your exercise band!"
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 10:44 AM (E5UB0)
with battling the elements' and that he did not possess the willpower
necessary to move 'four billion tons of white bull shit'".
Fess up. Which one of you is that?
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (mf5HN)
It was probably a time-traveling future me.
I apologize to the city of Fargo in advance (is that right?) for what I will (did?) do (did)? Ugh, time travel is bullshit. @_@
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 06, 2015 10:44 AM (6JL3d)
Bold and refreshing candidates would arrange one-on-one debates held on the intertubes.
Posted by: eman at August 06, 2015 10:44 AM (MQEz6)
Selective Ambushes.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:43 AM (5weRM)
Clusterf*cks?
Circlejerks?
Circular firing squads?
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:45 AM (JvPqF)
In 13 minutes, 2 of the ferguson assholes will be on Ask Me Anything. In line with reddit's new editorial policies, ask them a pointed question and you will be banned.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 06, 2015 10:45 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:46 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein
Mary, I have supported lesbians with ad revenue from their websites.
Posted by: Morons at August 06, 2015 10:46 AM (VAsIq)
Trump has also layed out a simplified tax plan as well.
So again a serious debate can be had if the "moderators" want to have a serious debate.
But I don't think they do.
FOX news is the information buero of GOPe so I expect them to be the good little foot soldiers and try to throw sticks into the Donald's wheels.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 06, 2015 10:44 AM (JbETL)
Their job is to attempt to get 2 or 3 of them into a fight so they can show clips of it and talk about it endlessly.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:46 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Roy at August 06, 2015 10:46 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (oVJmc)
"nothingburger with fries"
but they'll forget to put the fries in the bag at the drivethrough.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (go6ud)
Compared to the other two, Yes......
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (hUdMz)
Posted by: SarahW at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (3fTXW)
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Your Favorite Candidate at August 06, 2015 10:47 AM (VAsIq)
In 13 minutes, 2 of the ferguson assholes will be on Ask Me
Anything. In line with reddit's new editorial policies, ask them a
pointed question and you will be banned.
Would Michael Brown be alive today if he hadn't gone all violent stoned thug?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 10:48 AM (oVJmc)
What the tea leaves say on that one:
Murdoch is keenly aware that the fortunes of any big business wax and wane with the favor of government, which is far bigger.
Especially media businesses like his, which need governmentally controlled resources like broadcast spectrum. To say nothing of favorable tax treatment. He has always adroitly positioned himself on the side of those most likely to be *running* the government.
That's what he did in the UK, where the Murdoch papers were all staunchly Conservative (albeit with sex and scandal layered on top) during the Thatcher years. Then when John Major clumsily frittered away the Thatcher legacy, Murdoch saw the early rise of Tony Blair, concluded Blair was inevitable, and overnight all of the Murdoch properties' editorial line flipped to full-throated endorsements of Labour.
Murdoch had been assuming that either Jeb! or Hillary! were inevitable and had positioned himself accordingly to be on good terms with either one.
But when you see him carefully walking back his insulting comments about Trump? That's Murdoch making a cold-eyed mercantile reassessment of the situation and concluding that Trump might actually end up holding the brass ring.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2015 10:49 AM (noWW6)
So there's a WaPo thing about the debate, in which they say of teh Cruz:
Does his past debate training prepare him for such a melee? Or will he be like Andre the Giant in "Princess Bride"?
https://youtu.be/EE2TZAdoaS8
So now I desperately need one of the candidates to say "but for now, rest well and dream of large women."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 10:49 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 10:43 AM (5weRM)
Clusterf*cks?
Circlejerks?
Circular firing squads?
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 10:45 AM (JvPqF)
Selective Circle Jerk Ambushes maybe?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:50 AM (AkOaV)
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Why do you hate Dr. Martin Luther King's vision so much?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:50 AM (VAsIq)
Jeb: You needs to play to your donors. Ignore everyone there and repeat the platitudes. Don't go off script again. Don't say anything a team of cuckolds hasn't validated with NBC and Disney. You are the soulless corporate choice. You can't afford a show of humanity. Please your masters, and they will do the rest, talking up your 'solid' performance.
Kasich: Talk up New Hampshire. You are running as a spoiler for Jeb and he will reward you if you do your job right. Pander to the granite state heavily, but avoid attacking Trump's supporters.
Trump: Fight the moderators. Take control of the debate. You are center stage. Make sure it is about you. Make sure the sound bites are about you. Spin the hell out of the post game that you were persecuted.
Christie: Your job is to attack Trump. Jeb will reward you. You need to go all-out. Insult everything about him. It'll destroy you, but you aren't a serious candidate anyway.
Carson: Attack Obama. Everyone else on the stage is too chickenshit to do it, but you did it once. Throw red meat out. Stick to anti-PC language. It will resonate.
Cruz: Attack Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. Burn those bridges. Attack Jeb. Attack the establishment. You have the most to gain by doing so.
Rubio: you are running for VP, so say you love America a lot. The party will look to you to give them hispanic votes. Promise them you can, and the donors will pass out from the blood rushing to their tools.
Walker: You gotta do something. You would be great at running Ankh Morpok because you're so quiet. You're a regular Havelock Vetinari. In fact, you might be doing whatever it is you do already.
Huckabee: Gay marriage and planned parenthood. Hammer on them and you lock up social conservatives. You won't win the nomination but you'll be a kingmaker.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 10:50 AM (dhHd4)
I would not call him "Mr. Bush" or "Jeb" (and I would never call him governor - I hate the practice of calling people by the title of the office they no longer hold, it reeks of aristocracy. The title belong to the office, not the person) - instead I would always call him "W" or "George" and pretend it is a mistake.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 06, 2015 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at August 06, 2015 10:50 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:38 AM (VcOqI)
Wait, I thought Fiorina DIDN'T make the cut??
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at August 06, 2015 10:51 AM (zPc5p)
I met Scott Browns daughter. The hot one.
Not that hot in person.
I'm afraid I'd be let down if I were to meet a Huntsman daughter.
Just saying.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:52 AM (AkOaV)
Christie: Your job is to attack Trump.
Christie has spoken about Trump several times recently, calls him a friend. He's not going to go after him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 10:52 AM (JtwS4)
Who will be moderating the Thursday debates?
For the 9 p.m. debate, Bret Baier, Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace will moderate. For the 5 p.m. event, it will be Fox's Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum.
Hemmer, MacCallum?
Literally "who?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:52 AM (kdS6q)
"Senator Santorum, if elected president, which country would you visit first?"
"I'd nuke either Iran or Syria, followed by Russia and then maybe China."
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at August 06, 2015 10:52 AM (lU0bX)
I would settle for giant novelty flyswatters.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:53 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Chupacabras at August 06, 2015 10:53 AM (l2max)
that is actually spot on to what will probably happen - except Christie. I think Christie still believes he is a real contender.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 06, 2015 10:53 AM (3ZtZW)
"I'd nuke either Iran or Syria, followed by Russia and then maybe China."
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac
Mr. McCain, for the last time be quiet! You were not invited to this debate.
Posted by: Moderator at August 06, 2015 10:54 AM (VAsIq)
Mr. Trump, it has been said that you want to ban all non-white people from the USA. Don't you believe that it is racist to do so?
Governor Bush, are you awesome or totally awesome?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:54 AM (0LHZx)
I would settle for giant novelty flyswatters.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 10:53 AM
I think a whoopie cushion on each seat would be good...
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:54 AM (hUdMz)
So I figured it out. Go full 8 mile on it.
10 candidates get a min' a hal' a piece to drop their best free style raps then we judge who won based on the crowd clapping
http://tinyurl.com/noa3f7a
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:54 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 10:52 AM (JtwS4)
Interesting. That might actually work better for him if he can appeal to Trump's more moderate supporters.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 10:55 AM (dhHd4)
Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 06, 2015 10:55 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at August 06, 2015 10:55 AM (lU0bX)
Trump could trigger the great implosion in one sentence. It's always what I've expected. On the other hand, with a crisp, tough and competent performance he could really shake the GOPe's world.
In the long haul of the race, I see Cruz and Walker battling it out, with Paul throwing it one way or the other. Walker is the tortoise. But Cruz is not the hare -- what is he? The smartest, sharpest, most disciplined and an actual ballsy conservative to boot.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 10:55 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 10:56 AM (cbfNE)
Politico: The GOP primary, by the numbers
705: The number of Instagram photos posted by the candidates (or their interns), based on a count of posts since they each launched their campaigns. Sen. Rand Paul cruises to the top of the gram game with the most posts, 110.
Rand Paul is a chick.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:57 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:54 AM (0LHZx)
One of Colberts rare funny moments he was interviewing someone serious (i forget who) and said
"George Bush... Great President? Or GreatEST president?"
Thats kind of how Fox will play this. "Jeb -- would he make a great president? Or the greatest ever? How can we help him get there"
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 10:57 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 10:49 AM (JtwS4)
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Big legged woman ain't got no soul. Case in point, Hillary.
Posted by: Zed Leppelin at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (oVJmc)
Too bad Teddy Kennedy and His car are no longer with Us....
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:59 AM (hUdMz)
I remember a debate where Baier started the proceedings with a shit eating grin that made me want to whip a belt across his face.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 10:59 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Pander Bear Party Candidate at August 06, 2015 10:59 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (VAsIq)
He hasn't prepared at all. His people are freaking out about it, but it just makes this more awesome.
He'll be a thousand times more hilarious without facts.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 10:59 AM (dhHd4)
Politico: The GOP primary, by the numbers
20: The number of interviews candidates have given on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. Huckabee was the most frequent guest, appearing nine times.
Dance, monkey. Dance.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:00 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: grammar etc. at August 06, 2015 11:00 AM (VAsIq)
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Lucky for him this is not a serious debate. This style of getting off one-liners should suit him.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:00 AM (gmeXX)
It means that ace will be drunk-blogging the debates.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:00 AM (j1VIK)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/karada-no-fushigi-daibouken/
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (63D73)
Who do you vote for?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (0LHZx)
Migration to Chile. I hear they have a relatively vibrant democracy.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (s/yC1)
It would take a whole lot of drinking to get Me to watch it...
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (hUdMz)
Posted by: joe at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (KUaJL)
Bernie's answer: I'm against "open borders", ie I don't think everyone in the world should move to America. But rest assured I am 100% for amnesty. And not just the fake amnesty that el Jeb is proposing, I'm talking full on amnesty, everyone is a citizen immediately type of amnesty.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:02 AM (gmeXX)
Jeb says Trump is a buffoon, a clown, and an asshole.
Also Jeb mighty offended that Trump said some Mexicans are rapists.
Really? Are some Mexicans murderers? We're not supposed to even acknowledge that some Mexicans are criminals?
This country is so fucked.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:02 AM (oFCZn)
Same question of you Mr. Trump, how will you help President Bush to succeed in this tough international climate?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:02 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
WHOM
Posted by: grammar etc. at August 06, 2015 11:00 AM (VAsIq)
_________
Agreed 100%
Posted by: Mr. Pedant at August 06, 2015 11:02 AM (0LHZx)
Shrubette, or Potted Plant.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (5weRM)
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:01 AM (s/yC1)
________
Chile's an interesting place. They have essentially Obamacare and a privatized Social Security system.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (0LHZx)
If by vibrant you mean corrupt then yes, yes they do.
The day I arrived there earlier this year the President fired her entire cabinet for corruption. Of course she was also involved as was her son but after great internal debate she decided against firing herself.
Funny thing was that she had just returned from vacation and said she was unaware of the corruption issue for the most part because she had her cell phone turned off during her vacation. Not kidding.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (gmjUl)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:02 AM (oFCZn)
Never happen. Not in him. Passive-aggressive, patrician, preppy piece of shit. If Trump really understands this he could play with Jeb! like a cat with a crippled mouse.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (s/yC1)
Jeb is actually going to be stupid enough to pick a fight with Trump?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (dhHd4)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (lKSyl)
Politico: The GOP primary, by the numbers
7,834: The number of GOP presidential primary spots aired thus far by candidates and affiliated outside groups, according to data from Kantar Media CMAG.
1,023: The number of spots as of this time four years ago.
Assume these are all airing in early states like Iowa? Dear God, those poor Corn-huskers or Buckeyes or whatever they call themselves.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (mf5HN)
Another Larry Correia fan, excellent! Wendell would kick ALL their asses.
Posted by: Agent J at August 06, 2015 11:05 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 06, 2015 11:05 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
Then bin Laden was a Jew! I KNEW it!
Posted by: Pon Raul at August 06, 2015 11:05 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (OGm46)
That's true. They still rate highly on the freedom index.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (s/yC1)
Businesses are collapsing for want of advertising slots.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (evdj2)
Well, Sanders didn't get the memo that democrats are now PRO-unlimited immigration where as recently as 20 years ago, it was an evil rethugglikkkan plot to undermine the unions and our budding Workers Paradise.
Cut him some slack. He's old.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (AkOaV)
entire debate trying to trap Trump and not try to foster serious policy
discussions then yes it's going to be a clown show.
.
.
.Wallace already said that was his plan. I can't remember the exact quote but it was something like; I've a couple of doozy's to trip [him] them up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (1LLEU)
Who[sic] do you vote for?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (0LHZx)
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I'd write in Trump.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Buck-huskers?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Zed Leppelin
Diminutive gingers are pretty rough also.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 06, 2015 11:04 AM (gmjUl)
Trump's asbestos toupee gives him the edge.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (VcOqI)
Eh. Caucuses are their third biggest industry, behind insurance and magazine publishing.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (/kI1Q)
Businesses are collapsing for want of advertising slots.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (evdj2)
I live in NH. I'd say 90% of ads on local TV are candidates.
Kasich, Christie and Hillary are dominating.
Which is why I think Kasich is moving up in the polls. Just name recognition.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (AkOaV)
So we can expect a Saudi Inquisition?
Why do I think it will be rather less humane than a Papal, or even the Spanish, version?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (evdj2)
http://zenpundit.com/?p=45677
Posted by: Piercello on the road at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (/Yo5v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (9mTYi)
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Is it really more corrupt than here? At least in S. America everyone acknowledges it's all corrupt. Here we pretend it isn't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (0LHZx)
I love it there, particularly in the south.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (OGm46)
Here is a long shot suggestion: we know trump is savvy enough to not implode and to drive the tone of the campaign. What if he actually prepares for this debate? What does that do for the rest of the candidates? Trump is by far the most dynamic candidate there, any plan he has will make his opponents look pretty poor.
As for the loser bracket, I have only this to say: it isn't whether you win or lose, it is whether you win. (Trump Board Game Motto)
Everybody else has been mind numbingly conventional, like this was some campaign in 2000. The best way to beat Trump is to define yourself as the best candidate, not the smartest, or wisest, but the best. That requires a public killer instinct that most have been sorely lacking.
Posted by: Arkady at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (41qix)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (1LLEU)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (/kI1Q)
Who[sic] do you vote for?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 10:58 AM (0LHZx)
Also, I believe Moo was correct. I believe "Who" is used as a subject, "whom" is nominative.
Regardless... I'd vote Sanders over Jeb 10 out of 10 times. Or write in "SMOD"
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at August 06, 2015 10:24 AM
You left out "he's a horrible person, really, a horrible, horrible person that Jeb guy. You know the dumb one. That guy, horrible person."
Posted by: Lester at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (2UPXV)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 10:59 AM (hUdMz)
Donna, what would Jeb be doing in---oh, nvm.
Posted by: Agent J at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Either our police are more honest or they want more than I've offered.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (VAsIq)
I like Paul
I like Walker
I don't like Jeb
I don't like Rubio.
I don't like Huckabee.
I don't like Trump, but I love the conniption fits he's giving the establishment.
The others don't matter so much, I don't really see any of them with a path to the nomination.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 11:09 AM (O7MnT)
Bimbo, Bimbo, does your mommy know?
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at August 06, 2015 11:09 AM (wKcQA)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:09 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (kdS6q)
There's always SOMEONE who is a piece of shit.
But apparently not the sainted Mexicans. They're perfection incarnate.
Go fuck yourself Heb.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:08 AM (1LLEU)
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Indeed. He can follow in the footsteps of moderates like 2 term presidents Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 06, 2015 10:21 AM (mf5HN)
Another Larry Correia fan, excellent! Wendell would kick ALL their asses.
Posted by: Agent J at August 06, 2015 11:05 AM (ueOgE)
Wendell For President.
American.
Aqueous.
Armed.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (1LLEU)
I'll send money to any candidate who shows up with a trick seltzer bottle.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (/kI1Q)
So AlextheChick did see the Correia drawing of a manatee driving a monster truck. Just can't figure a way of fitting such into current story.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (63D73)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f)
He was here last night. By the way, you are all a bunch of hardliners; because that's the word Obama uses.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (O7MnT)
Jeb: go home, take testosterone supplements by the handful, and read up
Walker: turn everything into an argument for experience and success
Huckabee: wrassle us up some socons, then go back to the front porch
Christie: look, a Little Debbie truck just pulled up outside!
Kasich: make everyone else look conscious by comparison
Cruz: lose the tie and get real
Rubio: you're building name recognition for the future, don't talk like a schoolboy and show some grit
Carson: hammer Obama and shine the surgery light on the real problems
Trump: just be yourself
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (OY/Og)
He says "I can't believe he won't apologize for his offensive statements."
And I said, "that's why people like him. Because the media plays a game where they try to twist words of R's in to something that is SO OFFENSIVE and requires an IMMEDIATE apology. And Trump said, 'nah fuck that.' and we love it."
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (lKSyl)
Posted by: Geraldo at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Golfman at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (fQAkR)
Chile seems to be the least corrupt of the S. American countries but that is a very low bar indeed. Yea, it's more corrupt than here but as you say at least nobody pretends it isn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (OGm46)
Talk brash and say shit the safe guys won't dare
When the honeymoon is over form a third party
RetardCons vote with third party
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (LPHFE)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN
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Who's pretending that it isn't, I mean aside from the MSM and the LIV's.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:06 AM (VcOqI)
This should be where the candidate who's asked this question turns to the camera and says "OK, America, that's one. Drink!"
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 11:12 AM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:12 AM (oVJmc)
Talk brash and say shit the safe guys won't dare
When the honeymoon is over form a third party
RetardCons vote with third party
Posted by: Yogi
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Sadly, I fear that you might be correct.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 11:12 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: mynewhandle
Backwards. Rearrange the sentence and replace "who" with "he" or "him"--if "he" fits, it's who, if "him," it's "whom." Would you say, "I'd vote for he" or "I'd vote for him"?
Posted by: Grrrrramar Tiger at August 06, 2015 11:12 AM (VAsIq)
WOW! We'll learn so much about them.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (0LHZx)
*looks at time* Or start thinking about lunch.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (63D73)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN
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Who's pretending that it isn't, I mean aside from the MSM and the LIV's.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 11:11 AM (9mTYi)
We're just slightly more subtle about it here. Note the word "slightly."
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 06, 2015 11:10 AM (63D73)
Monster truck suddenly driving across the debate stage, crushing all of the candidates* and moderators under its tires?
*Except your favorite, of course, should you be so unfortunate as to actually have a favorite in the field.
Posted by: filbert at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (JvPqF)
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Advantage - Trump.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (gmeXX)
Talk brash and say shit the safe guys won't dare
When the honeymoon is over form a third party
RetardCons vote with third party
Now now, you talk as if Trump got a call from Slick Willie or something.
Posted by: Doomed at August 06, 2015 11:13 AM (bGLSw)
Not believing in the Tooth Fairy doesn't make me a 'denier.'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:14 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grrrrramar Tiger at August 06, 2015 11:12 AM (VAsIq)
I'd say gender is a social construct and that I'd vote for "xe". The nominative of Xe, of course is also "Xe".
So stop being so cisgendered.
I find it both shallow and pedantic.
http://tinyurl.com/o7uqojf
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (63D73)
Nicole Wallace fired from The View. Joining MSNBC. I just hope no republican hires her as a consultant.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (iQIUe)
Rand Paul on Beck now says he is going to ask Trump some questions regarding his immigration bona fides.
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (2Ocf1)
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Riveting stuff.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (5weRM)
I find it both shallow and pedantic.
http://tinyurl.com/o7uqojf
Posted by: mynewhandle
If I were a lion you wouldn't be so dismissive.
Posted by: Grrrrramar Tiger at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (VAsIq)
Wow.... that must be a soooper hard ski slope.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: eman at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (2Ocf1)
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Lions now sit atop the victim class hierarchy.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM (2Ocf1)
Tread lightly, Randall.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (AkOaV)
Trump MIGHT betray us.
The GOP has consistently betrayed us.
The retards are the ones hoping that this time will be different.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: eman
And it should be this one!
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (VAsIq)
"whom" has stuff done to it
QUIZ
1. You voted for who / whom?
2. Whoever / whomever makes more money than Moo should give it all to Trump.
3. I'll give my vote to whoever / whomever reverses the entire Obama presidency.
The prize will be a crate of butterscotch pudding.
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (OY/Og)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (vaZxb)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000
Still missing one. The wetback makes 9.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (aDAls)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (fWAjv)
At this stage, everyone will say yes.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (rfjjV)
Posted by: Grrrrramar Tiger at August 06, 2015 11:16 AM (VAsIq)
If you were a Lion, I'd tell my dentist about you.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (AkOaV)
And Trump should comeback and ask about Paul's foreign policy bona fides.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: the chicken at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:07 AM (0LHZx)
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If by "here" you mean the US MFM, then yes.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (2Ocf1)
"I hope they will all support me, yes."
-best answer possible
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (dhHd4)
Trump was born in Queens. Next question.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (5weRM)
My hope for the debate--a Megyn Kelly wardrobe malfunction.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 10:37 AM (VAsIq)
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Like Janet Jackson's halftime show or Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct?
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (ord+p)
Posted by: eman at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grrrrramar Tiger
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Same thing I said.
Posted by: The Hitchbot at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (9mTYi)
Not voting for any of these clowns. Worst set of primary contenders I've ever seen.
Posted by: SpongeHardBobLinerSaget at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (ktt8p)
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (OY/Og)
Posted by: the chicken at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (VAsIq)
I don't think they'll get a chance to ask each other questions, though.
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (2Ocf1)
Kind of hard for me to say Trump might betray us because I honestly don't know what he would do aside from building a wall and making Mexico pay for it which won't happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (OGm46)
I could handle the debate being all about Megyn Kelly.
Well, depending on the definition of "all about Megyn Kelly," anyway.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (rfjjV)
This isn't a debate though. I did debating in high school and college. I can see how Cruz would excel in that format.
This is speed dating round robin interviews where the moderators are trying to trip people up.
They all know that. So they'll all be boring and as reserved as possible and use their 5 minutes of talk time to spit talking points.
Only wild card is Trump. We'll see if he plays the game, or uses the prime time coverage to advertise his casino in AC or something.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (AkOaV)
Nevermind - I know the answer.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (gmeXX)
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Regardless, ace will make it all about her "icy Aryan fury".
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (E5UB0)
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Wasnt she the same chick that was a staffer on McCains Presidential campaign and later threw Sarah under the bus??
She'll probalby land at MSNBC
Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (gmjUl)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (fWAjv)
I want Ivanka to adopt me.
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:17 AM (2Ocf1)
Since its going to be me, absolutely.
Posted by: The Donald at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (vaZxb)
Posted by: Ogleman
A lot from column A, a lot from column B, maybe some column C...
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Lennie at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (OGm46)
Jack, it's going to be a HUGE wall, and it's going to be AMAZING and absolutely world class.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (AkOaV)
In fairness, Average Joe feels inferior to the chicken, so it's a low bar.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (vaZxb)
What is a "white nationalist"?
The only context I know that phrase is on National Socialism (which Bernie recently called himself when talking about immigration).
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (AkOaV)
Perry won't know what he's saying. Just parroting what Schmidt wrote.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (P/xrJ)
I wonder if Megyn Kelly will make this debate all about herself?
Posted by: SH
Regardless, ace will make it all about her "icy Aryan fury".
Posted by: Bruce Boehner
Regal Nordic haughtiness.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JOHN KASICH!! at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Ogleman
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Accident?!
This was no accident !
Posted by: Matt Hooper at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: eman
A new party! The third party! The fourth party!
Everybody has problems. We have problems in the north, south, east and west. New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago, everybody has problems.
And, personally, I don't care.
Posted by: Alice Cooper at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (OGm46)
Jack, it's going to be a HUGE wall, and it's going to be AMAZING and absolutely world class.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:20 AM (AkOaV)
It'll have Casinos built into it! The Mexicans will come and scrub the toilets and clean the rooms. HUGE!
Posted by: Donald Trump at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (dhHd4)
I expect him to do pretty well - which usually means getting off one good line and not imploding or looking like a squish.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:19 AM (OGm46)
He's come out with other policy pronouncements. His tax plan (1%, 5%, 10%, 15%) is actually... somewhat attractive.
Which is weird, because I really *just* want him to be the Burn it Down candidate. I'm not sure what I'll do if he becomes serious and has actual serious policy ideas.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (kff5f)
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Or his how far he fell from the crazy tree bona fides.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (lKSyl)
Stupidly obvious isn't it?
Trump would put a more circus like spin on the Perot model, but as long as he can pull 5-10%
the outcome is the same.
Worth it for the Donald because he can plaster his name everywhere at donor's expense.
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (LPHFE)
Posted by: blaster at August 06, 2015 11:15 AM
If he wants to spend his 5 minutes asking other candidates to talk who is to stop him? Here The Donald let me give you 30 extra seconds, as required by the debate rules besides your own allotted questions, to pop off at me. Does he think The Donald is so stupid as to attack him back and give HIM 30 more seconds? Did he read the rules? Can Paul play Chinese checkers? You take his time away idiot not give him more.
Posted by: Lester at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (2UPXV)
It seems that only Chris Matthews and Hector hear them.
Makes me insecure about my hearing abilities.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (WjXce)
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And it will have a casino and a golf course.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (gmeXX)
It tolls for thee.
Posted by: Poet Lariat at August 06, 2015 11:23 AM (81UWZ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (kff5f)
Rand's tax plan gave me a semi.
Then I realized it will never happen. Unfortunately.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:23 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:23 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:22 AM (gmeXX)
The worlds BEST casino and the most amazing Golf Course anyone has ever seen.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (AkOaV)
The only people who hear "racial dog whistles" are actual racists.
Cats don't hear dog whistles.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Yo! at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (W6iIX)
It seems that only Chris Matthews and Hector hear them.
As they say, if you hear the dog whistle, YOU'RE the dog.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
You get to take care of them, Lenny.
*BLAM*
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 11:25 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:25 AM (gmeXX)
It seems that only Chris Matthews and Hector hear them. Makes me insecure about my hearing abilities.
When you can lick yourself, you can hear dog whistles.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (5weRM)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:23 AM (evdj2)
He's self-funding, but you can donate on his website.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (dhHd4)
Or if GHWB had won, or Reagan in 1976, or Goldwater in 64.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (cbfNE)
Perry won't know what he's saying. Just parroting what Schmidt wrote.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (P/xrJ)
I'm sure it was pre arranged, but I laughed out loud when Jack Heath asked Perry the exactly same question about shutting down federal departments that Perry so famously imploded on in 2011/2012.
Perry answered it with a "oops" then moved on to his real answer. Little laugh line, but I thought it was funny.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Horse, ready to stalk. at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (bGLSw)
Wallace was the McCain campaign staff member who scheduled Palin for the infamous ambush interview by a hostile Katie Couric.
It has since come out that Wallace knew in advance the interview was going to be rigged. She and Couric colluded on it.
So, yeah, a great fit for MSNBC. And further proof that John McCain, who hired the treasonous Wallace into his campaign to begin with, is a complete dope.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: @votermom
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Quite possibly..., but there was not the remotest possibility of that. Perot was out to sink Bush, and he did.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (9mTYi)
See... Trump's plan might actually get passed. "The Rich" often won't mind paying 15% flat. It's probably about equivalent to what they pay now, and they don't have to pay an accountant so much.
The same is true of "the Middle Class" who will end up paying 10%.
Meanwhile, at the bottom end of the scale, someone making 30k/yr who whines about paying 1% ($300.00) is going to sound exactly like that: a whiner.
You actually get the low income crowd to pay *something* and start "Overton Windowing" the idea that *everyone* should pay taxes.
And, again, this is a guy who has just been saying "pass me the popcorn" while sidling up to the fire. It's weird to me that he has an actual policy idea I can actively support.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (kff5f)
Muslims have been harassing servicemen in Colorado and Wyoming. Yet Conservatives have said nothing. Conservatives are bitch ass cowards who pick on the defenseless but cower before those that can fight back.
Posted by: Trump 2016! at August 06, 2015 11:25 AM (+GbAN)
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So.... Mexicans are lazy shifts that cant defend themslves. Columbians are all violent drug lords that will lash back at you.
And you insist *we're* the racists.
Got it.....
Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (cbfNE)
No Lewinsky. And she wouldn't be able to cry about mean people as the reason she can't get a job.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: @votermom at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (cbfNE)
I haven't seen Cruz's tax plan, but Rands is the one I've been dreaming of.
Flat 14% rate, exemption up to $20k or whatnot for everyone, no further deductions or exemptions.
No IRS, simply a tax collection agency.
He's even hinted at ending withholding and making people actually WRITE A CHECK which is the quickest way ever to get people to advocate for lower taxes.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (AkOaV)
Answer: "You mean kinda like you?"
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (ord+p)
Which I guess explains why I won't be watching the Republican Clown Show.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (TOk1P)
Pretty much Trump's plan, isn't it?
I think a few others are pushing a flat/fair tax, too.
Not that it'd ever get through Congress.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (oVJmc)
Regal Nordic haughtiness.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:21 AM (kdS6q)
I would prefer regal Nordic naughtiness.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (WjXce)
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Well that is because the Democrats control Congress.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:29 AM (gmeXX)
God, what a racist.
this is what amazes me about the left -- who fucking THINKS in these terms?
What must it be like to go through the day thinking that way? "Oh god! Theres a black guy! He's probably going to rob me. Wooo! Thank god made it through that one. Oh, here's a Mexican. Must be late to his job mowing the lawn. Oh, wait, nevermind he's a Colombian! SHIT! He must be an international drug smuggler!!!"
LIke what the fuck?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:29 AM (AkOaV)
I used to think this would work, but it won't. After about a year, the LIVs will be screaming "give us our withholding back!"
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:29 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: DangerGirl: Hardliner, Reactionary and All-Around Wackobird at August 06, 2015 11:30 AM (TUUTu)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (j1VIK)
More please and quicker so people don't have to scroll up as much to see that he's been edited.
I've always thought that is the best way to deal with trolls.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 11:30 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: donna at August 06, 2015 11:30 AM (hUdMz)
If by people you mean me then you are correct.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:31 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit
Yea, once you get pass the "his going to run 3rd party" and "he's a Dem plant" bullshit and start listening to some of his ideas he has some good ones. Like bombing the oil fields that ISIS controls to starve them of money.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 11:31 AM (S+el1)
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Eh - her shtick is tiresome.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:31 AM (gmeXX)
*paws and stamps in anticipation*
Posted by: Horse
Go away, John Kerry!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (VAsIq)
Guiliani - 31%
The Fred- 20%
Maverick McAmnesty - 17%
Mittens - 10%
Lots can (and will) change...
Posted by: Timon at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (ZDJwC)
And you insist *we're* the racists.
Got it.....
Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2015 11:27 AM (8XRCm)
That thing you quoted looks fake. Not fake enough to be funny or clever, but also not real enough to need to be argued with.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (TOk1P)
It's not The Hug, it's the fact that Kris Krispie viciously attacked his own party for not passing the pork-laden "Sandy Relief" bill (the quote marks are so necessary there) and then went on to give the most unenthusiastic snoozer of an RNC speech ever.
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (2Ojst)
With Ingrid Bergman, you could get both!
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 06, 2015 11:32 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (oVJmc)
asked Perry the exactly same question about shutting down federal departments that Perry so famously imploded on in 2011/2012. Perry answered it with a "oops" then moved on to his real answer. Little laugh line, but I thought it was funny.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Except he never actually answered the question. At least last time he named two departments before he froze. This time, zilch.
He's actually getting worse.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (kdS6q)
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Yes. Or let Israel go to war with Iran.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (VcOqI)
This.
In Texas, long ago, teachers used to get paid once a month (because the government exempts itself from its own laws) only in those 9 or 10 months of the year in which they are required to work.
The idea was that you should get paid while you're working, and be adult enough to budget appropriately.
The teachers complained- they wanted their salaries divided up into each of the 12 months to make their budgeting easier. So the TX legislature agreed and changed it.
Now the teachers complain that it's no fair people think they get paid all year for only working 9 months. They quite often protest that they, "don't get paid for a single day I don't work." You know, like the rest of us.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 11:18 AM (fWAjv)
And Melania as first lady.
Compared to what we've got now, I'll take it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Eromero at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (go5uR)
Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (4qwAO)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:23 AM (evdj2)
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Donors? Are you fcking kidding me? Im so rich that I spend my Christmases opening a soup-kitchen for the Romneys!
Never trust a guy who needs donors! Do you go to a sperm bank to start a family? Yuuuuuuge losers!
Posted by: Donald Trumps Hair at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (NXO+0)
That thing you quoted looks fake. Not fake enough to be funny or clever, but also not real enough to need to be argued with.
It's trolling. Hector posts the same thing every day, changing the nick and the group names, then fapping to responses.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 06, 2015 11:35 AM (dgfje)
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (gmeXX)
I like a little of column B with a dash of "and make sure the rest of the region knows we'll support and defend them."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:35 AM (kff5f)
Which goes to show you how completely uninterested I am in this debate.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 06, 2015 11:35 AM (u0lmX)
Sad, right?
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 11:36 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 11:36 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:36 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:37 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 06, 2015 11:37 AM (rfjjV)
So maybe I'll watch the debate.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:37 AM (OGm46)
He's actually getting worse.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:33 AM (kdS6q)
Yeah, it really is something. The man cannot be stupid (can he?) -- longest serving gov in TX history.
I don't know.
Maybe he gets nervous public speaking. I can see that.
My theory? He hates public speaking, so he pops a Xanax before he goes on the stage to take the edge off, but it also makes him look like an idiot.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:37 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:34 AM (oVJmc)
I don't know. I think the hektor posts are more one-dimensional. The whole "why don't you pick on the Columbians, because Mexicans are too shiftless and lazy to fight back" thing is a bit too... self-aware.
It would be funny if it wasn't so, frankly, not funny.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2015 11:38 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:38 AM (VcOqI)
Maybe Trump will do the same for illegal immigration.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:38 AM (0LHZx)
One time 15% wealth tax?
I could be open to that. It's "the wealthy" constantly telling ME I don't pay enough in taxes and am not regulated enough.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:38 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (VcOqI)
Or if GHWB had won, or Reagan in 1976, or Goldwater in 64.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:26 AM (evdj2)
_________
Had Coolidge run again in 1928 this country would have been a hell of a lot better off.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:40 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (0LHZx)
If FDR had keeled over from a heart attack in the mid 30s, the world would be a better place.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:40 AM (AkOaV)
And in a couple weeks we get Matz back and next year Wheeler. This could be the best young pitching staff in MLB in a long time.
Strange times for a Mets fan.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:40 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: Fritz at August 06, 2015 11:41 AM (UzPAd)
And his lies are different from the other candidates lies... how? The President doesn't pass legislation, the most he can do is propose laws.
It's all corrupt; there's no saving it. Even if we elect a Walker/Cruz (or Cruz/Walker) ticket, we're still stuck with Yertle and Boner, and they're too invested in the current paradigm to try to fix anything.
I may as well at least be entertained.
Bread and circuses doesn't work without the bread. But it *also* doesn't work without the circuses.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:41 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Cruzinator
Hmm, we need to get him on our team.
Posted by: Pander Bear Party at August 06, 2015 11:41 AM (VAsIq)
*squirt*
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:41 AM (vaZxb)
NY Mets who are in first place because they have won more games than the
second place Gnats are off today so they can look at the standings and
see that the NY Mets are in first place.
So maybe I'll watch the debate.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:37 AM (OGm46)
The Washington Numbskulls are a bit confused. They thought when they signed Scherzer in the Spring it was going to automatically catapult them right to the NLS.
Sorta like Jeb!, they seem to believe it's their turn.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (TOk1P)
It's time for an ewok post.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (AkOaV)
whole "why don't you pick on the Columbians, because Mexicans are too
shiftless and lazy to fight back" thing is a bit too... self-aware.
Perhaps you weren't here for his 'Brave Catholic Warrior' Phase.
The Catholics (as embodied in the illegal hordes) wouldn't be the meek pussies that the evil racist teabaggers thought they would, and they would rise up and slaughter us all in our beds.
Dude's got paranoia and borderline personality disorder issues.
This is his version of shooting up a theater.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (oVJmc)
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Compared to our establishment Rino's. Have the most potent Democratic leftist people in office since Reid / Byrd. Trump would sell us out. To who? The establishment is already entrenched. That is why he is popular. People are sick of this crap and they won't get better on Obamacare.
Posted by: Just thinking out loud. at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: The Burning Time at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:40 AM (AkOaV)
_________
It's funny that in the 1932 election, people were accusing Coolidge of being to far left and Coolidge was warning people that FDR would go too far right.
Politics is so fucking weird some times.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (0LHZx)
Maybe Trump will do the same for illegal immigration.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
We've already got a surplus of illegal immigrants!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 11:31 AM (S+el1)
But then people wouldn't be able to buy that oil!
Posted by: Our Elite at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (dhHd4)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (VcOqI)
Agreed. Especially DeGrom.
I hope it's not a Yankee -Mets WS though. The Yankees need to start losing.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:39 AM (0LHZx)
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Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
Posted by: Norman Lear, bleeding heart conservative at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:40 AM (AkOaV)
Eleanor Roosevelt is leading the pack to be on the $10.
Yep.
I think they should put Caitlyn Jender on it and just be done with it already.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (oFCZn)
Yeah. I kind of came to that conclusion in 2008. Held out some hope, but at this point -- what can anyone really do to change anything? Not much.
Entrenched interests aint going nowhere. We're all on this ship re arranging the deck chairs together right now, may as well enjoy the band.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:44 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 11:44 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (2l5vw)
Response: I believe in the kind of health care you have. Tell us about it.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (VcOqI)
Yep. Show you are a feminist by glorifying a woman for marrying the right man.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (oVJmc)
Well, in that case, I'm happy we can provide him with an outlet for his psychoses so he won't start shooting with real bullets.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: Old Hob at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (NBhge)
He's also declared all Christians are assholes at various points.
I think he's just a troll. At one point he claimed to be gay but the Mexican wife comes up as well. Then he was a Serbian immigrant who wants to kill Muslims.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (dhHd4)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (xN1DB)
Answer: "You mean kinda like you?"
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 11:28 AM (ord+p)
In fact, this is exactly how you should treat the media on every question. Throw it back in their face, challenge the premise, answer the question you wish to answer. Treat them with contempt.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (s/yC1)
The hardline conservatives need to stop being so hardline and wanting people to die in the streets. They need to be more moderate.
We need to make America look more like Ohio. Don't you want to win?
Posted by: Ken at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (vaZxb)
--The Donald, entering that way
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (2l5vw)
Nothing would make me happier then if The Donald entered the arena like a WWE wrestler complete with theme music and muscle flexes and glares.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Fritz at August 06, 2015 11:47 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:42 AM (VAsIq)
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I would be really tough on illegals! I would be so tough... you would be amazed! But I would keep it classy, not be hard on grandmothers and stuff like that... like real classy!
Posted by: Donald Trumps Hair at August 06, 2015 11:47 AM (NXO+0)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:47 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:47 AM (vaZxb)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (oVJmc)
Good lord, you probably AREN'T going to make the playoffs. You know that... right? The Nats are going to stop acting like they deserve it handed to them, and actually start playing like they can.
You people sound like Cubs fans.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete
You, sir, have just set a new trend.
And, as I have learned on this here smart military blog, also revealed yourself to be a grand dragon kleagle wizard or something.
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: rrpjr
"Good morning, Mr. Rubio."
"Screw you--you know damned well it's mid-afternoon in Tehran, and there's nothing good about it!"
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (VAsIq)
I want to see him roar in from stage right in a monster truck and jump over the rest of the candidates. Or maybe come up juuuuust a little bit short.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (OGm46)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 11:45 AM (JtwS4)
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Goils were goils and men were men.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (E5UB0)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (0LHZx)
And her cousin, no less. What, are they all inbred hillbillies out there in New York and Connecticut?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: Weasel at August 06, 2015 11:48 AM (ijjnr)
A wildcat did growl.
Two riders were approaching.
And the wind began to howl.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Norman Lear
With cling peaches.
In heavy syrup.
--Edith
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (5weRM)
Megyn: So Feh, how does your answer differ from what Mrs. Clinton just said?
Feh: Difference? I'd say the cleavage between us is perfect.
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (OY/Og)
In fairness, the guy gets winded getting off the couch. Unless he's got an armored hoveround we have little to fear.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (evdj2)
Okay there, Charles Manson.
For Chrissake.
Also, if you work with the "latin community" as I do, you'd know no one refers to it as the "latin community" they call themselves Spanish (as in spanish speakers), but prefer to call themselves by their nationality.
Believe it or not, Argentine's don't see themselves as "Latinos" and the same people as Mexicans or Guatemalans or Puerto Ricans. They all have very different cultures and other than speaking different dialects of the same language, have very little in common with each other.
Only racist white liberals like to lump everyone from "south of San Diego" together as "latinos" or "hispanics".
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
*looks around frantically*
Stop talking about me!
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Fritz at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (UzPAd)
I think he's just a troll. At one point he claimed to be gay but the Mexican wife comes up as well. Then he was a Serbian immigrant who wants to kill Muslims.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (dhHd4)
He also flips between claiming to actually being a Republican or being a democrat knobgobbler.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (zt+N6)
Response: No. I just don't go to the movies.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:49 AM (vaZxb)
Yep.
I think they should put Caitlyn Jender on it and just be done with it already.
.
.
.That's already over, s/he lost over 80% of it's TV audience after the first episode. It is so last weeks news. Do try and keep up would you?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (iONHu)
Boehner might be vulnerable.
It was noted at WZ the other day that Boehner had wanted to bring the Meadows resolution (calling for Boehner's ouster) to the floor this week, so that it could be firmly and promptly disposed of by vote before Congress recesses. Proving the rock solidity of Boehner's power base.
Apparently Boehner was stunned when his lieutenants came back and told him they couldn't round up enough votes to make it a sure thing on the floor. So Congress goes into the August recess with the Meadows resolution still hanging over the uneasy Boehner.
Of course, if Boehner is ousted, the establishment GOP will no doubt immediately install a Boehner clone. McMorris-Rodgers?
Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (noWW6)
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The correct response to this is BULLSHIT. Fact, film footage need to prove that point. So far in 2015 I have seen no one die in the streets due to lack of insurance. A few because of car crashes. I guess their collision insurance didn't help them their (snark).
Posted by: Just thinking out loud at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (OY/Og)
This new troll needs to go back to the factory for readjustment. It's not even any good.
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (/Ho8c)
And, as I have learned on this here smart military blog, also revealed yourself to be a grand dragon kleagle wizard or something.
Posted by: Moderate Salami
Not saying that I endorse the term or the position behind it. Simply noting that Huckabee has both the policies and name for it.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (xN1DB)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM (AkOaV)
And a couple of scantily-clad models with yuge bewbs. I 'm talking YUGE!
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: Mindy at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (dg8OI)
And sometimes they have to stay late to get some work done, or take work home, or take a class to keep their credentials current, and if you point out that every single fucking professional in the country--blue collar, white collar, pink collar--has also done these things so they can stay employed, they bitch at you about "hating children".
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (/kI1Q)
Response: We have something akin to national healthcare in the VA hospital system. In that type of system our veterans die everyday waiting for healthcare while the administrators get massive bonuses for good work. I don't think that type of system is good for a veterans nor for any other American.
Posted by: Ken at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (LXJ1e)
Megyn: So Feh, how does your answer differ from what Mrs. Clinton just said?
Feh: Difference? I'd say the cleavage between us is perfect.
Posted by: Feh
Megn: How long would you be willing to commit troops to a conflict?
Me: Long? About as long as those legs of yours, sweetie. And speaking of long...
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (VcOqI)
Eleanor Roosevelt is leading the pack to be on the $10.
So, the Nordic haughtiness got me thinking.
Greta Garbo on the $10 bill.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (JtwS4)
My favorite was the Dr. Love handle, because it backfired and we all just started asking him relationship advice.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (dhHd4)
The Nats can never win a championship. They are the descendants of the Expos. They are of a failed legacy destined to fail in a city of failure.
Let's Go Mets!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (YqcVw)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (j1VIK)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier
Fair enough. Kids suck.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: spd rdr at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (+fXXA)
Everybody sing along:
"One of these things is not like the other ones..."
Posted by: Country Singer at August 06, 2015 11:53 AM (8hctH)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (j1VIK)
Well, Muse, not only are they YUUGGGGE, but they're the best bewbs money can buy. The. BEST!
World class bewbies.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:53 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:53 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mindy at August 06, 2015 11:53 AM (dg8OI)
Response: people die in planned parenthood offices and get sold for parts and you don't bat an eyelash. If we put up little curtains around the dying everyone will be fine with it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 06, 2015 11:53 AM (dhHd4)
Trump is bombastic in a good sort of way and Ted was the national debate champion.
Plus they obviously respect each other.
Posted by: Marybeth at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (CmURZ)
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (vaZxb)
Dr. Carson: What the...........
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: spd rdr at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (+fXXA)
I'm putting together a drinking game. Also, buying more beer.
Anytime Donald says "huge" "amazing" "best" or "world class" I'm chugging.
Anytime someone says "comprehensive immigration reform" I'm chugging.
Any time a moderator sets up a totally false premise AND THE CANDIDATE ACCEPTS IT, I'm chugging.
Still working out the details, but I figure I'll be blackout drunk within 20 or 30 minutes.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 10:57 AM (kdS6q)
So... should we call him Dagny now?
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (wKcQA)
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 10:34 AM (VcOqI)
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I shit you not, if Trump said that he would have my vote. Trump's slogan outta be "Trump for President 2016 - What could I do, f*ck it up?"
Posted by: Saltydonnie at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (i6shs)
Fixed it for you.
Your welcome!
Vote Trump!2016....because Jeb smells my fingers after being up my ass because I pay him like the whore he is.
Posted by: Donald Trump at August 06, 2015 11:55 AM (D0NZx)
Nothing would make me happier then if The Donald entered the arena like a WWE wrestler complete with theme music and muscle flexes and glares.
Posted by: mynewhandle
K7 Come Baby Come [1993]
http://tinyurl.com/3q9klpf
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 11:55 AM (kdS6q)
the only mail I've gotten is from Scott Walker and Ben Carson. You
don't win without organized supporters in all 57 states. In a way, that
makes Ben Carson a more serious candidate than Trump, Paul, etc."
Correct.
Given that this isn't a debate but a joint press conference with some minor amount of cross-examination, as others have noted, the important thing for a serious candidate is to stay on-message, positive, and above-the-fray.
Lots and lots of people will be watching that don't normally watch these things because of the "Trump curious" factor, so there is great opportunity to be steady and positive for one or two folks.
Obviously, that has been Walker's game plan all along and I don't expect that to change tonight. Rubio, Bush, and Carson could also do the same thing. Drudge is doing his best today to get a Bush-Trump battle royal going, but we'll see if Bush steps into that trap.
The key is looking like a normal person with strong accomplishments, and not a weirdo asshole. Walker should pass that test with flying colors. A few others might, too, but most of these guys will come off to the casual watcher as freaks, Huckabee, Cruz, Kasich especially. Trump is already expected to be a freak, so no surprise there.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (ljZD2)
Posted by: Ready For Jeb!!11!! at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: spd rdr at August 06, 2015 11:52 AM (+fXXA)
I, me, money, experience, immigration, jobs, abortion, government, taxes, welfare, Iran, war on terror, if, and, and the
Posted by: Iblis at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (9221z)
Posted by: Marybeth at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (CmURZ)
Not crazy. This is how I think Cruz sees it anyway.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (k5eO3)
If Cthulhu wins, all your problems will be over. Just think about that one for a minute. No more mortgage payment, no more mother-in-law, no more shitty reruns on TV, and no more damned elections, ever. No more "does this dress make me look fat," no more diets, no more expensive car or home repairs.
And now, I dare you to pull the lever for some mortal chump in 2016.
Cthulhu/SMOD 2016, "One shared vision of the End."
Posted by: Agent J at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (ueOgE)
"I don't just work 6 hours a day!!!!"
Yeah. Neither do I. Next?
"I'm at the mercy of my boss's review!"
Yeah. So am I. Next?
It drives them absolutely nuts when I do that. They want to believe they're special little snowflakes and the world is mean and cruel to them in particular.
Oh, and "standardized testing." They hate it when I say, "Yes. Standardized tests are the absolute worst way to measure proficiency/mastery of subject matter. Except for all those other ways we've tried."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Weasel at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (ijjnr)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
You're right. I'm tired of settling for the lesser evil.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Moderate Salami
Well, Putin's had to cut back because of the commodities crunch. So one wanna-be aspie is the best we're going to get.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (ZCFje)
That's absurd.
Most of my workforce was Guatemalan. They HATED my Argentine best friend / foreman because they think (know) Argentines are incredibly racist toward anyone who has some indigenous blood.
They also hate my Brazilian painting crew. Oh, and they really hate the El Salvadorans because of all the gang violence, rape, murder, drug running, etc in Guatemala from groups like MS-13.
I don't know any one who things the Gringos are doing anything against them. And granted thats all anecdotal, but...
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (AkOaV)
The most intrusive law ever passed to invade our privacy was the 16th amendment. For most of this country's history, asking someone what they did for a living and how much they make would get you punched in the mouth.
Tax consumption, not income.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (P/xrJ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (oFCZn)
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Who needs that old bag in the pocket? When I am president, I will put a really classy chick on our doe, like Pamela Anderson or Kim Kardashian.
Posted by: Donald Trumps Hair at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (NXO+0)
Oh and GROSS!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
To be fair, they were like 4th cousins, but yeah. Related.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (AkOaV)
Feh: Now there's a story with legs.
Megyn: And arms, and other pieces, ...
Feh: All America finds PP's practices to be repulsive and anti-human. Yes, I'd vote to defund.
Posted by: Feh at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (OY/Og)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Marybeth at August 06, 2015 11:54 AM (CmURZ)
Not crazy. This is how I think Cruz sees it anyway.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (s/yC1)
Cruz is definitely positioning himself to pick up the Trump crowd if and when Trump implodes. Plus he's also going after SoCons and FisCons
Posted by: Iblis at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (9221z)
Chris Wallace: You would have to agree, wouldn't you, that the economy is in a much better place than it was when George Bush left office, so, are you saying that President Obama deserves no credit whatsoever?
Response: [ ].
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (E5UB0)
Fixed it for you.
Your welcome!
Vote Trump!2016....because Jeb smells my fingers after being up my ass because I pay him like the whore he is.
Posted by: Donald Trump at August 06, 2015 11:55 AM (D0NZx)
Now this is some funny shit.
Posted by: Timon at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: Trump Sucks at August 06, 2015 11:46 AM
What corner? The enforcing laws corner? The I don't want to do business with anyone who breaks immigration, identity laws, and fraud corner. That corner? How about they demand to be treated decently in Mexico? Or Guatemala? How about they don't allow their elites to run them off because they want a controlled permanent serf class of a manageable size? Which is easier? Run off to El Norte or build their own country? How about asking for help there instead of hooking up with crooks here?
Posted by: Lester at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (evdj2)
Well I'm afraid that's our fate until we escape the mortal coil.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Ken at August 06, 2015 11:51 AM (LXJ1e)
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Well played Sir!
Posted by: Just thinking out loud at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: Old Hob at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (NBhge)
Posted by: spd
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I'm going with "Undocumented immigrants"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: mynewhandle's liver at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (kff5f)
hospital system. In that type of system our veterans die everyday
waiting for healthcare while the administrators get massive bonuses for
good work. I don't think that type of system is good for a veterans nor
for any other American.
.
.
.I was in the VA emergency Ward the other day with my wife and was sitting right next to the dispatchers desk with the radios on it. I was astounded at the number of people that get dumped into the VA system on an apparently daily basis.
I overheard one radio call from an ambulance service that had an unresponsive diabetic man in his 70s. The neighbor said that she thought he had been in the Army so they were bringing him to the VA instead of one of the other hospitals right downtown. Sad.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (iONHu)
If we need a fem on the money, I suggest Lassie.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (oVJmc)
When do teachers retire? In their 50s.
How much do teachers pay for health insurance? $0
Is their pension guaranteed? Yep.
Do they get about 20 weeks total vacation when including all vacation time and holidays? Yep.
But yeah a real tough job.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (0LHZx)
Oh and GROSS!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
To be fair, they were like 4th cousins, but yeah. Related.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (AkOaV)
Heh. In the arab world 4th cousin is beyond total strangers. Its practically another species.
Posted by: Iblis at August 06, 2015 12:00 PM (9221z)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:01 PM (5weRM)
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So..., typical 'Liberal'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 12:01 PM (9mTYi)
You are aware you're feeding the troll, right?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:01 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Just the Punchline at August 06, 2015 12:01 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (0LHZx)
Fuck.
You.
Posted by: mynewhandle's liver at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (kff5f)
Hey liver! You think you're pissed off?!?! Talk to the lungs some time.
Ungrateful bastard.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 11:56 AM (kff5f)
Yeah, their incessant whining really galls me. It's called being a professional and, apparently, it is beyond your capabilities.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (k5eO3)
Outlier question: Ms. Kelly, have you and Sir Edmund Rodham ever bumped nasties for the greater good?
Posted by: Typical White Republican Terminater at August 06, 2015 12:03 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (noWW6)
It will be Boehner with a dye job and a mustache.
Using the name Haven Monahan.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 06, 2015 12:03 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Iblis
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Bette Davis was a 6th cousin of mine. Not a big deal..., except..., she was a 6th cousin on BOTH my mother and father's sides.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 12:03 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 06, 2015 12:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:04 PM (0LHZx)
is in a much better place than it was when George Bush left office, so,
are you saying that President Obama deserves no credit whatsoever?
Answer: The pitifully anemic low growth we've had is in spite of Obama's efforts to make things even worse. But I suppose you are doing better financially.
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 12:04 PM (ord+p)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (0LHZx)
Without a doubt true.
Part of the reason we're seeing such a large influx of indigenous people from central america. Their (white) Spaniard countrymen want to export their unskilled uneducated restless underclass to Norte Americano.
Which is fine. But to deny that is delusional.
And anyone who thinks there is some kind of common bond between a Brazilian guy and someone from Guatemala has clearly never left their gated community in the WASP suburbs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:04 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 06, 2015 12:03 PM (9mTYi)
Which begs the question:
Do you have Bette Davis eyes?
Posted by: Country Singer at August 06, 2015 12:05 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 12:05 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 06, 2015 12:02 PM (k5eO3)
What's really funny is my brother's cognitive dissonance.
He was a teacher before he was an administrator (normal course, there). He *still* holds to the "teacher's aren't paid enough, they're over-worked, blah, blah," and *simultaneously* complains about how much they complain about having to go to training, or in-service days, or whatever.
O_o
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:05 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2015 11:50 AM (noWW6)
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I'm cool with that. That scrunt is my congress critter. We could use some of that so so sweet federal pork.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:05 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:04 PM (0LHZx)
I'll put it this way: they want to same family parties as children.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:05 PM (AkOaV)
Fuck.
You.
Posted by: mynewhandle's liver at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (kff5f)
Hey liver! You think you're pissed off?!?! Talk to the lungs some time.
Ungrateful bastard.
Posted by: mynewhandle
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Whiners.
Posted by: George Takei's asshole at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (9mTYi)
is in a much better place than it was when George Bush left office, so,
are you saying that President Obama deserves no credit whatsoever?
Trillions of dollars in debt and Fed Funny Money for ~2% growth?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (oVJmc)
Foreshadowing: The Next Debate
Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - CNN/Salem Republican Debate
Location: Reagan Library in Simi Valley, CA
Moderators: Jake Tapper, Hugh Hewitt,
Rules: Split field into Segment B (top 10 candidates) and Segment A (remaining candidates getting at least 1% in polls)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Saltydonnie
______________
Kinky Friedman's slogan last time he ran for Texas governor was "Kinky Friedman--Why the Hell Not?"
Posted by: Furious George at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (UlJ3l)
As a Morongineer I'm forced to point out some difficulties with this project.
A. no hands
II. water
Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (D5hxK)
you grandmother's sister's cousin was your husband's 2nd cousin or some
shit?
Means you share great-great-great-grandparents. So, you're good to go.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (/kI1Q)
And anyone who thinks there is some kind of common bond between a Brazilian guy and someone from Guatemala has clearly never left their gated community in the WASP suburbs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:04 PM (AkOaV)
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It's funny how progs who claim they're oh so wordly haven't the faintest idea what goes on outside their neighborhoods.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
Fuck.
You.
Posted by: mynewhandle's liver at August 06, 2015 11:59 AM (kff5f)
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Hey liver! You think you're pissed off?!?! Talk to the lungs some time.
Ungrateful bastard.
Posted by: mynewhandle
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Whiners.
Posted by: George Takei's asshole at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (9mTYi)
The hell with all of you! I'm the one on Death Row.
Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Junk at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (8hctH)
Biden v. Trump '16
Because you deserve it America!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2015 12:08 PM (xSCb6)
A. no hands
II. water
Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (DL2i+)
II. Napalm burns under water.
A. Flipper-operated trigger.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:08 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:58 AM (AkOaV)
Heh. In the arab world 4th cousin is beyond total strangers. Its practically another species.
Well I'm a 4th cousin to my wife through marriage. But we are both from Pennsatucky.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 12:08 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Country
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I prefer, 'Marty Feldman eyes'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 12:08 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: !Yikes! at August 06, 2015 12:09 PM (df+1i)
I want a manatee with a flamethrower
As a Morongineer I'm forced to point out some difficulties with this project.
A. no hands
II. water
Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2015 12:06 PM (DL2i+)
1. FlippersB. Steam causing a Megyn Kelly wardrobe malfunction.
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 12:09 PM (ord+p)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 12:09 PM (9mTYi)
Peru and Chile are still arguing over land that was lost in a war in the 1800's. Peru has been trying to get the UN to force Chile to give back land they captured after Peru unwisely attacked Chile.
And they still can't agree on who invented the Pisco Sour.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:10 PM (OGm46)
I thought they were closer, like 2nd cousins. Sorry for the exaggeration.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 12:10 PM (j1VIK)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (D5hxK)
It does. Remember Gingrich in the SC primary debate in 2012? His brutal take downs of the media blew the audience away and no matter what the talking heads said, he stormed to victory in the state. The only real triumph of his entire campaign. Of course, he totally misinterpreted the reason for his victory and immediately became all cautious and polite and "statesmanlike" as he got hammered by Romney's attacks and was finished.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 12:11 PM (s/yC1)
Tell me another profession that allows this.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:11 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (D5hxK)
I predict that at least one Fox News talking head will say "This was a huge boost to Jeb Bush." They've got a warehouse stocked full of Jergen's and Kleenex they've been waiting to use to talk about Jeb and they're willing to do anything to finally break it out.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 12:11 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Ummm, ummmm, ahhhh at August 06, 2015 12:12 PM (6gR7l)
Here is an interesting chart that explains "cousins", "once removed", "twice removed", etc.
http://bit.ly/1xRwfEg
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:12 PM (5weRM)
Posted by: HUCK
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The U.S. Congress?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 06, 2015 12:12 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 12:12 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Old Hob
"But I give you my word as a Spaniard!"
"No good--I've known too many Spaniards."
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (VAsIq)
"Oh boo fucking hoo teachers have to stay late and grade papers. What's "late"? 3:30? 4? God forbid 5??!?!?!? Don't tell me 5:30? That's just inhumane and unconstitutional.
When do teachers retire? In their 50s.
How much do teachers pay for health insurance? $0
Is their pension guaranteed? Yep.
Do they get about 20 weeks total vacation when including all vacation time and holidays? Yep.
But yeah a real tough job."
My late father was a public school teacher, but very anti-union. He used to say you could cut all of their salaries by 30% and none of them would quit.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: George Takei's asshole
*Insert obligatory "Ohhhhh myyyyyyyy!" here*
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 12:12 PM (/Ho8c)
That's not what gets inserted.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Oglema
*taps chin thoughtfully*
Hmmm, so how can we implement this plan?
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
Absolutely no idea. And I know a lot of these people. I've been lectured on race by these people. They're all white, live in white suburbs, work in middle management surrounded by white people, and their only exposure to the outside world is CNN.
And yet they feel the need to Voxplain race relations to someone who has always lived in cities, and normally not in neighborhoods anyone would consider "white" and whose friends are almost all Spanish.
What I've found? Best race relations in America are in mixed Spanish / White neighborhoods and in the South.
Go to a ritzy suburb in New England and you'll see segregation like it's out of a movie from the 1920s.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 06, 2015 12:14 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Ogleman at August 06, 2015 12:14 PM (ord+p)
Who's the real inbred cousin-humpers in this story, eh? Not Hoosiers.
* I suppose that's how you keep all the old money in the family: don't let anyone from outside the family marry in. Creepy.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:11 PM (0LHZx)
Yours obviously.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: mynewhandle
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This about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Chris Matthews at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (9mTYi)
Every March, my Facebook feed is overwhelmed with photos from my teacher friends taking vacations in the Caribbean or the ski slopes. Then they come home and whine about how hard their job is and how they aren't paid enough.
Because, you know, sometimes they have to buy their own teaching supplies. And we all know that no other occupation in the entire world would ever require people in it to purchase their own tools.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (O7MnT)
yeah yeah and NJ allows incestual marriages.
The reason CT and NJ and other New England states never passed laws against this?
Because it was never really an issue here, like it may have (allegedly) been in other places in the US.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (AkOaV)
"Tell me another profession that allows this.
Posted by: HUCK
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The U.S. Congress?"
They at least have to to stand for re-election. Public school teachersare like cockroaches
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (OD2ni)
Go to a ritzy suburb in New England and you'll see segregation like it's out of a movie from the 1920s."
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)
Absolutely right. Having lived in a ritzy New England suburb, a small North Carolina town and now Los Angeles, I can confirm.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 12:16 PM (s/yC1)
We're told by popular culture and comedians that incest only happens in rednecks and trailer parks, but its at least as common if not more so among the very wealthy and in the inner city. You're just not allowed to mention that last part or be branded with a scarlet R.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:17 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:13 PM (AkOaV)
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Where were the riots in the 1970s (yes 70s) over forced busing?
Surely it was in one of those racist Southern cities like Atlanta or Birmingham or Dallas right?
Nope. It was Boston.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:17 PM (0LHZx)
You keep telling yourself that.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 12:17 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at August 06, 2015 12:15 PM (9mTYi)
No idea where Matthews lives. My guess would be in the greater DC area (all white suburbs).
But most of the NY anchormen live in New Canaan CT and surrounding towns.
Not exactly known as a bastion of racial integration.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:18 PM (AkOaV)
Who's the real inbred cousin-humpers in this story, eh? Not Hoosiers.
* I suppose that's how you keep all the old money in the family: don't let anyone from outside the family marry in. Creepy.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 06, 2015 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)
Incestuous. Just like their "must be Ivy League" fetish that moo moo jacks off about being so awesome.
Posted by: buzzion at August 06, 2015 12:18 PM (zt+N6)
That's Senor Bush Numero Tres, por favor.
Posted by: Jeb! at August 06, 2015 12:18 PM (YqcVw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYvHHc4igk
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 12:19 PM (j1VIK)
The Hapsburgs basically inbreed themselves off the throne in Austria.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 06, 2015 12:19 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (DL2i+)
>>Surely it was in one of those racist Southern cities like Atlanta or Birmingham or Dallas right?
>>Nope. It was Boston.
That wasn't racism, that was people reacting to the government forcing their kids to be bussed into schools where they didn't want them to go.
METCO is a voluntary program that has been around for decades and allows low income students from bad inner city schools to attend more affluent and better suburban schools. Big success and very popular. And you've never heard of it for that reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (OGm46)
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I see no difference. Once tenured they are harder to get rid of just like cockroaches.
Posted by: Just thinking out loud at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (OGm46)
Yes and no. I went to college in Boston. It was racist. Southie was racist. No question.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2015 12:22 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Ummm, ummmm, ahhhh at August 06, 2015 12:23 PM (6gR7l)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at August 06, 2015 12:23 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:23 PM (kff5f)
Racism exists everywhere by all races, pretending it isn't so is just that, pretending.
As for Southie, they hate everyone who isn't from Southie and they will happily let you know. They don't discriminate.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:24 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: HUCK
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The U.S. Congress?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
The State Department.
Posted by: Huma at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (VAsIq)
But still it's all about supply and demand. Lots of people out there want to become teachers at the going salary. If one day 1/2 those people decide to quit, market forces will ensure that salaries have to increase.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (0LHZx)
Still is. It was up into the 70s where the No Irish signs were on shops and clubs. The northeast has long been packed with racism but they are loudest about how awful the south is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 12:19 PM (j1VIK)
Heh.
METCO is a voluntary program that has been around for decades and allows low income students from bad inner city schools to attend more affluent and better suburban schools. Big success and very popular. And you've never heard of it for that reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (OGm46)
Yes, METCO brings some inner city kids to the 'burbs.
But, cmon... Boston was known as not a very... racially friendly city. Why were their sports teams so late to integrate?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (LPHFE)
Posted by: NCkate at August 06, 2015 12:25 PM (si/ji)
My grandfathers must have fcuked a lot.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 06, 2015 12:26 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Huma
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I weary of being the butt of your jokes.
Posted by: Bicycling John Kerry, smashing into curbs in France at August 06, 2015 12:26 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:20 PM (39g3+)
Funny you say that. Depending on the weld work you do, You can make up to 6 figs. That is if you are willing to travel the world and work in high stress deep sea environments. I've got a couple of friends who started right out of high school and are set to retire @40.
Posted by: cajun caret at August 06, 2015 12:27 PM (UZQM8)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)
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That proves two things.
1. Birds of a feather flock together.
2. Birds are racist.
Posted by: Just thinking out loud at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (5weRM)
600+ posts and we're arguing about racism and incest
Clearly, Ace is jerking off in the shower
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (LPHFE)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (39g3+)
Also, I was referring to EDT, not CDT. Because Ace is on the east coast (unless he really did move to Austin last week, but I'm thinking the Horde was kidding about that).
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 06, 2015 12:30 PM (kff5f)
You always want to get free publicity as a candidate, but if one of them would have said I refuse to let the media pick candidates (not to mention this will be a clown show with that many people) and not attended they would be better off.
No positive news will come of this for any candidate, the moderator is just trying to trip people up so they can make news.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 06, 2015 12:30 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:30 PM (LPHFE)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:31 PM (S3Inb)
Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2015 12:31 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Weasel at August 06, 2015 12:32 PM (ijjnr)
Posted by: rickb223
! Oh, shit, I thought it was Saturday!
*gets dressed*
*rushes to work*
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 12:32 PM (VAsIq)
That would be great to see the times posted as CDT. The way God intended.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:32 PM (S3Inb)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 06, 2015 12:32 PM (fWAjv)
Its good honorable work that is a direct benefit to society. A lot of welders don't make terrific money though. But people who criticize them for being too dumb to get good work are clueless about the job other than they wouldn't want to do it because its dangerous, hot, and dirty.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:33 PM (39g3+)
Bethesda or Potomac, most likely. One of those places where a 1,500 square foot rancher goes for seven figures. His wife is running for congress, dont'cha know.
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 12:33 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:33 PM (LPHFE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (dgfje)
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (O7MnT)
And it was true to a certain point. Boston was one of the first immigrant melting spots and any wave of new comers was discriminated against and they then took it out on the next wave in turn.
The whole No Irish Need Apply thing was huge in Boston and they slowly took over to the point they dominate a lot of Boston politics, media and even sports. They were also the group that was most racist of blacks.
I think it was more about socio-economic crab crawling than hatred of skin color. Nobody wants to be lowest on the totem pole. Boston along with most of the northeast is very class conscience and that more than anything is the fight. New money vs old money is every bit as nasty as skin color fights.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:33 PM (LPHFE)
well you cant out-Trump Trump.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (AkOaV)
do, You can make up to 6 figs. That is if you are willing to travel
the world and work in high stress deep sea environments. I've got a
couple of friends who started right out of high school and are set to
retire @40.
Posted by: cajun caret at August 06, 2015 12:27 PM (UZQM
Truth. I know I guy that was a certified underwater nuclear welder, and he made killer money. Right up until he got injured on a job site, which wasn't his fault (crane malfunction dropped an I-beam on him).
Posted by: Country Singer at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: V the K
A "leaked" sex video with Kim Kardashian.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (VAsIq)
So Jeb is following the Rick Perry model of success then?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (xSCb6)
Last black player ever drafted for MLB was on the Red Sox. 1959.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (39g3+)
Oh yes it's ladies night, oh what a night, oh what a night!
Posted by: Ready For Jeb!!11!! at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (Dwehj)
Who? Shorty? Good dude.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:36 PM (S3Inb)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2015 12:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2015 12:34 PM (OGm46)
Maybe among some. I'm from this area, descendant from Irish immigrants in Boston and NJ.
Never found "class" to be a big thing. I grew up in an area with a lot of old money and a decent amount of new money. I never noticed a divide while I was living there.
I did notice that most of the very wealthy people were pretty humble with their money, while the "new money" people were the ones driving around in Lamborghini's with their "Harvard Law" bumper stickers prominently displayed. Like assholes.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)
I know, right? I think they posted it as an attempt to hurt Trump, but it's having the opposite effect. I'm watching it, and I'm laughing my ass off.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 12:37 PM (j1VIK)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:38 PM (S3Inb)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2015 12:36 PM (S3Inb)
Heh. Actually, he's sorta famous now. You know the closing scene of the movie Cabin Fever? He's the guy in the bluegrass band playing banjo.
Posted by: Country Singer at August 06, 2015 12:38 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)
I know, right? I think they posted it as an attempt to hurt Trump, but it's having the opposite effect. I'm watching it, and I'm laughing my ass off.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 06, 2015 12:37 PM (j1VIK)
I laughed at this as well. Some of it was like a bad SNL sketch.
Posted by: Timon at August 06, 2015 12:39 PM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 06, 2015 12:35 PM (rfjjV)
Nah.
Also, my Argentine buddy cannot understand a word the Guatemalans say. Their dialects are that different.
You know who I found are the best universal translators though? Puerto Ricans. I don't know why, but for some reason my Puerto Rican coworkers could translate anyone else, even the Brazilians (who speak Portuguese).
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:39 PM (AkOaV)
Trump is a billionaire yet is getting his campaign 24/7 media coverage for less than pennies on the dollar.
Bush and the Rino's is the buffoon here?
Posted by: Just thinking out loud at August 06, 2015 12:40 PM (H/XZJ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 06, 2015 12:40 PM (dgfje)
He just might be the candidate for the modern age.
Posted by: Yogi Freakscene Alienhead at August 06, 2015 12:40 PM (LPHFE)
Oh they thought a hilarious mash up of Trump put downs would HURT him?
Idiots.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: marine43 at August 06, 2015 12:42 PM (Qovtd)
Public school teacher with 0 years experience and a BA starts at $40,000, tenured after 3 years.
Catholic school teacher same stats starts at $28,000, no tenure.
A public school teacher maxes out salary near $60k
Catholic school teacher maxes out at $44k after 20 years with a masters.
Public school teachers have a pension
Catholic school teachers have a 401k
Posted by: unfatmatt at August 06, 2015 01:00 PM (kyTFr)
Let us turn to Sun Tzu:
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at August 06, 2015 01:03 PM (1hM1d)
Ditto. Would love to see her break into the top tier somehow. Keep thinking that if enough people get a chance to see her, she might gain some traction and become a factor.
Posted by: RM at August 06, 2015 01:06 PM (Sj3r3)
Posted by: V the K at August 06, 2015 11:24 AM (O7MnT)
Pro tip: never buy a cat whistle. They plain don't work.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 06, 2015 01:08 PM (U5R9J)
Posted by: Norman Lear, bleeding heart conservative at August 06, 2015 11:43 AM (E5UB0)
Herbert Hoover was an engineer. Engineers, by nature and training, have to be cautious and thorough, because if they aren't people can die.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 06, 2015 01:24 PM (U5R9J)
She couldn't give 2 shxts for Ameeican middle class or STEM jobs
She ran against Boxer for senate and was unimpressive
Ugh
Posted by: ginaswo at August 06, 2015 01:25 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 06, 2015 01:29 PM (rwI+c)
If they treat Trump differently then the whole thing will be shown to be the farce and the failure that I suspect it is.
This Kasich thing has really got me ticked off. I cannot believe he got to that spot without help of some kind from inside. And that makes me wonder what else and how far will those insiders go to twist the election the way they want it.
Are they stupid enough to make it so obvious what they're doing? So far that seems to be the case and we well know they're opinion of the public isn't very high so it's quite likely they'll do something blatantly obvious at some point.
Which I believe will cause them to lose and lose big.
And that could be the beginning of the end.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 06, 2015 01:31 PM (x3GpS)
Carly fiorina on Kudlow on CNBC back in the day 'there is no such thing as a God given American right to a job in this country anymore' which she ensured when she pioneered outsourcing all tech support & cust service jobs at HP AND insourcing via H1B visas
Wow, that's a big turn-off. I wonder if she has "grown" enough during her candidacy to lie to us about this tendency.
Posted by: imp at August 06, 2015 01:52 PM (XIXZz)
Jeb is busy getting ready to lose with dignity like the donors want. They've already got their cozy arrangements in DC and don't see the need to change anything.
Trump, the lifelong Democrat donor, supporter, and Friend of Clintons, who publicly admits he still supports many Democrat positions and has about as much political aptitude as he has luck in picking mail-order brides, decides he's suddenly a Republican because Bill asked him to be one. The ook-ook wing of lapsed Paulies goes wild because he's throwing the tantrum they want thrown.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 06, 2015 03:18 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 06, 2015 03:21 PM (Kucy5)
One time 15% wealth tax?
I could be open to that. It's "the wealthy" constantly telling ME I don't pay enough in taxes and am not regulated enough.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 06, 2015 11:38 AM (AkOaV)
Second the motion.
Posted by: BuddyPC at August 06, 2015 04:43 PM (jfUIE)
The undercard may be more interesting but at this point who is not on the undercard ?
Posted by: standfast24 at August 06, 2015 05:07 PM (bDG+8)
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