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Shock: Another Social Justice Warrior Caught Lying About Oppression

I really think all cops should wear body-cameras.

Cameras will tend to make them act more respectful (most are, but some are kinda assholes and need the prodding), but, even more than that, body-cams will out liars and force citizens to not act like such complete jackasses.

Posted by: Ace at 04:33 PM




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1 Yes

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:35 PM (k3MbG)

2 Body cameras are good for everybody but thugs and bad cops.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (sPO3u)

3 That dashcam was edited by the white devils at ILM. Burn this city DOWN!

Posted by: Minati Roychoudhuri at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (GIIf5)

4 If only Darren Wilson was wearing a camera.

Ferguson would not habe burned.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (k3MbG)

5 Probably everybody in Washington should have to wear a body camera.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2015 04:37 PM (dhHd4)

6 Everyone wins with cameras, and they should be a priority for every serious police department. The only issues are to make sure they aren't ALL the time, and how to balance that with officers either turning them off when they shouldn't, or explaining malfunctions in court.

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 05, 2015 04:38 PM (B1/t3)

7 The best part of the story:

It's also a crime to file a false report with the police and she was subsequently arrested with bond set at $1,000 and an invitation to visit with a judge on August 14th.

Yeee-HAW! More of this, pls.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 05, 2015 04:38 PM (VY8H5)

8 My concern is still the privacy issues.
I think these can be dealt with, but we'd have to make sure to do it upfront.

Consider the following scenario. Someone in my neighborhood shoots off fireworks (not me.)
I'm out in my back yard with my friends enjoying a bottle of wine and a (legal) campfire.

Since my back yard faces the road (corner lot) cops always seem to bug is when something like fireworks happens.

I've had a few drinks. I'm not mean and I'm certainly not breaking the law, but maybe I say something embarrassing.

Now several months later for whatever reason someone with access to that video gets mad at me (maybe because I put up a sign in my front yard that supports pension overhaul.) They leak the video to someone who puts it on youtube.

I did nothing illegal. I did nothing, frankly, unethical, but I'm embarrassed.

The panopticon is something we should not take lightly.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 05, 2015 04:39 PM (tM4uk)

9 Probably everybody in Washington should have to wear a body camera.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2015 04:37 PM (dhHd4)


ALL politicians and their staff.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:39 PM (k3MbG)

10 College guys should wear body cameras before putting dick in crazy.

Posted by: wooga at August 05, 2015 04:39 PM (mPCqj)

11 Now if we can just figure out how to make criminals wear body cameras too.

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at August 05, 2015 04:39 PM (5fSr7)

12 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 05, 2015 04:40 PM (q+zA9)

13 The incidents where cameras keep asshole cops in check are likely to be dwarfed by the incidents where they prove that someone else was an asshole and did something stupid to bring the pain. I'm all for body cameras for officers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 05, 2015 04:40 PM (OiH3z)

14 Proposed: All revenue from civil forfeiture shall be used to buy police body and dash cameras. Any immunity for police actions is voided if the camera is not on.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (Hj9yW)

15 Wait...a SJW professor is a lying liar what lies?

Color me shocked

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (ZQfW9)

16 Well, FWIW, 247 in the last thread has got to be the best parody of an SJW I think I may have ever read.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (xSCb6)

17 Someone was saying how maybe certain segments of the population hadn't quite thought out the implications of having all cops wearing body cameras because people are going to get an eyeful of what cops have to put up with on a daily basis.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (oFCZn)

18 >>College guys should wear body cameras before putting dick in crazy.

Cameras 24/7 in all the dorms and frat houses.

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at August 05, 2015 04:42 PM (5fSr7)

19 Did you see this one?The balls on these guys....

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/211867/

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 04:42 PM (sPO3u)

20 Yeah, if Darrin Wilson's body cam had shown Michael Brown punching the shit out of him, the grifter crowd would have disappeared right quick.

Look how pissed they were about the convenience store footage....

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 05, 2015 04:42 PM (oVJmc)

21 From the link:

That clearly sounds like some inappropriate questioning on the part of the officer

Sorry, Jazz, that's why I avoid you.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 04:43 PM (l2Gqi)

22 I'm glad to see she was actually arrested for filing a false report. It's about time these fuckers start paying a price.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 05, 2015 04:43 PM (q20+R)

23 Cameras 24/7 in all the dorms and frat houses.

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at August 05, 2015 04:42 PM (5fSr7)


And sorority houses.

Might there be a monthly fee to view such footage?

I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:44 PM (oFCZn)

24 19 Did you see this one?The balls on these guys....

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/211867/
Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 04:42 PM (sPO3u)

Yeah, I saw that when it first broke. They're all scummers who should be fired and blacklisted.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 04:44 PM (mx5oN)

25 "the little boy who called wolf"

hey lady! pretty sure you were told this story before.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 05, 2015 04:44 PM (ll1q6)

26 Just more proof that SJWs don't want justice, they want power and revenge.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 05, 2015 04:45 PM (8marX)

27 >>Probably everybody in Washington should have to wear a body camera.

Do you really want to see what I see?

Posted by: Reggie at August 05, 2015 04:45 PM (c7vUv)

28
College guys should wear body cameras before putting di...

I'm going with Go-Pro

Posted by: George Zimmerman at August 05, 2015 04:45 PM (q+zA9)

29 14 Proposed: All revenue from civil forfeiture shall be used to buy police body and dash cameras. Any immunity for police actions is voided if the camera is not on.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (Hj9yW)

Civil asset forfeiture needs to be shitcanned.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 04:46 PM (mx5oN)

30 but, even more than that, body-cams will out liars and force citizens to not act like such complete jackasses.

Sounds like shaming.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 04:46 PM (0NdlF)

31 Another BLACK SJW....

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 05, 2015 04:47 PM (f+6Pd)

32 They really aren't warriors, just bullies

Posted by: Yo! at August 05, 2015 04:47 PM (q+zA9)

33 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:47 PM (kff5f)

34 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:47 PM (kff5f)

35 The more body cams, the more hilarious you-tube footage.

Bring it on!

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 04:48 PM (l2Gqi)

36 Cameras are fine but it won't eliminate the differences of opinion of what is or isn't reasonable force. The standard knee in the back or on the head of a subdued suspect is always framed as excessive by the SJW's.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:48 PM (rfjjV)

37 Like campus rape- I believe that these things happen, so why is it that every time it makes news, it turns out to be a hoax?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:48 PM (kff5f)

38 Do they make a water proof GoPro?

It would be great for my swim parties.

Posted by: Jo at August 05, 2015 04:48 PM (f+6Pd)

39
Howie Carr read the NYT op-ed penned by a Rhodesian who explained why IT WAS GOOD THAT CECIL IS DEAD.

What an excellent piece. Must read.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (TCb1y)

40 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

I see today He compared Republicans to the Hardliners in Iran because they aren't keen on his little sell out.... Such a Uniter!

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (hUdMz)

41 Fake it til you make it, baby!

Posted by: SJWhores everywhere at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (DtNNC)

42 29 - agreed. but at least this would stop it from being used for MRAPs and other crap.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (Hj9yW)

43 you never know when you are going to be recorded. It's important to be nice, now more than ever. You even have to be respectful and suffer fools.

Posted by: ALH at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (iD/4e)

44 I could watch a train GoPro all day long.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (f+6Pd)

45 Washington City regime wants violence. Watch for more 'stuff' to happen.

Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (go5uR)

46 29 14 Proposed: All revenue from civil forfeiture shall be used to buy police body and dash cameras. Any immunity for police actions is voided if the camera is not on.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (Hj9yW)

Civil asset forfeiture needs to be shitcanned.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 04:46 PM (mx5oN)

I agree with it after conviction and trial to confirm the property arises from the illegal activity.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (rfjjV)

47 Sometimes white women like to be filmed...

Posted by: Paolo at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (q+zA9)

48 What happened with the case of the cop that chased the guy and then shot him on camera?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (evdj2)

49 Someone was saying how maybe certain segments of the population hadn't quite thought out the implications of having all cops wearing body cameras because people are going to get an eyeful of what cops have to put up with on a daily basis.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (oFCZn)


All more reasons for Body Cameras. And when the PO is the Ass-hole, his union cannot hide it. They may keep his job once or twice, but not permanently. There is one cop on a city force here that has almost 10 Million Dollars in judgements against his actions.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (k3MbG)

50 Cameras are fine but it won't eliminate the differences of opinion of what is or isn't reasonable force. The standard knee in the back or on the head of a subdued suspect is always framed as excessive by the SJW's.

True, but it *will* cut down on some of the worst actors on both sides.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (kff5f)

51 Poon Pro?

Posted by: Karnac at August 05, 2015 04:51 PM (2zd9l)

52 Someone was saying how maybe certain segments of the population hadn't quite thought out the implications of having all cops wearing body cameras because people are going to get an eyeful of what cops have to put up with on a daily basis.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (oFCZn)

We're also getting an eyeful of what colossal fucking assholes a disturbing number of cops are.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 04:51 PM (mx5oN)

53 It may be a good idea to start audio recording when you have a colonoscpy too

Posted by: Yo! at August 05, 2015 04:51 PM (q+zA9)

54 I could watch a train GoPro all day long.

------------------------

Depends on who's in the train.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (WiU5D)

55 I hope the cops throw the book at her for filing a false report. I hope also that they throw the English-To-Indian translation, too, so she understands the proceedings.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (1CroS)

56 ALL cops should wear either a video camera or a microphone for audiotape.

I used to work on the parking ticket detail. There's a certain percentage of the population who figured out that if they make a complaint, the ticket goes away. The fact that the officer gets in trouble is a bonus.

So....I started wearing one.

It saved my ass the second day I wore it. Another government worker (go figure) got pissed off at me for daring to ticket her for blocking a hydrant. She called me every name in the book. I wouldn't take the ticket back after that rant, of course, which pissed her off even more.

Before the hour was over, she contacted my sergeant. Said I questioned her sexuality, etc. I got called back in, early.

I silently handed the tape over to my boss. He went off and listened to it.

He returned, called her back in front of me and asked her if she wanted to listen to the tape. She didn't know I recorded her (legal in AZ at the time, I think it still is.)

That complaint went POOF.

Better yet, word got around and all of her coworkers at the.....wait for it.....state Department of Revenue markedly improved their behavior in a matter of days.

Moral of the story......those stupid little cassettes were the best friend I ever had when I worked there, and they have other relatives who can be VERY pro-cop. DOOO EEET.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (h8UWI)

57
Moar Social Justice:

Boston's D mayor is outlawing (because "banned" is not strong enough these days) chewing tobacco at all sporting events.

Curt Schilling who believes he got mouth cancer from the stuff appeared with the totalitarian mayor today to explain to The People that it's for their own good.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (TCb1y)

58 I agree with it after conviction and trial to confirm the property arises from the illegal activity.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (rfjjV)


Yes. You don't get to keep the property you stole, or the money you obtained through sale of narcotics. Fair enough.

But that *must* be after conviction with the sole exception that actual evidence is, well, evidence and must be confiscated for that purpose (which, of course, is what opened this particular pandora's box anyway).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (kff5f)

59 I agree with it after conviction and trial to confirm the property arises from the illegal activity.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (rfjjV)


Yeah but that's not civil forfeiture. That's just standard criminal law.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 05, 2015 04:53 PM (tM4uk)

60 Malkin (also CBS Denver) has another fake hate crime done by a black in front of a black church in Colorado Springs.


Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 05, 2015 04:53 PM (f+6Pd)

61 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:50 PM (kff5f)

I agree.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:54 PM (rfjjV)

62 The in car cameras help the cops big time.

"Keep a civil tongue in your head" keeps the aashole attorneys out of your pocket.

Body cams even more.

Posted by: DM at August 05, 2015 04:55 PM (j/tOh)

63 I agree.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 04:54 PM (rfjjV)


No, no. This is the Horde. You're supposed to disagree with me on principle and throw things.

I'm sure I read that in the by-laws somewhere...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:56 PM (kff5f)

64 Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (xSCb6)

Thank you for that gem.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 05, 2015 04:56 PM (Z3HgI)

65 I believe it was George H.W. Bush's administration who passed the civil forfeiture stuff.

Because of the crack cocaine epidemic.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:56 PM (oFCZn)

66 I demand that Kate Upton wear a body camera pointed at her own body.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2015 04:56 PM (OGm46)

67 31 Another BLACK SJW....
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican
------------------------------
Dude, really?

Minati Roychoudhuri
That sounds like a "black" name to you? She doesn't even look black.

Posted by: Chi at August 05, 2015 04:57 PM (yB0WD)

68 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 04:52 PM (kff5f)

Yeah but in order to claim "evidence" you should have to investigate and charge for a crime.

With the CF stuff it's just "poof" gone, never to return. Most other evidence has to be given back if there's no charge/conviction.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 05, 2015 04:57 PM (tM4uk)

69 Every Congressman, Senator, Supreme Court Justice, Cabinet Member, and President should have one of these cameras surgically embedded in their foreheads.

I left out Vice President, because I don't want to know what Joe Biden does with his free time.

Posted by: Qoheleth at August 05, 2015 04:58 PM (iIzG7)

70

Harris County Prosecutors (think Houston) have opened a criminal investigation of Gulf Coast Planned Parenthood in Houston for selling baby body parts

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 04:58 PM (zOTsN)

71 Moar Social Justice:
Boston's D mayor is outlawing (because "banned" is not strong enough these days) chewing tobacco at all sporting events. Curt Schilling who believes he got mouth cancer from the stuff appeared with the totalitarian mayor today to explain to The People that it's for their own good.


Outlaw dihydrogen monoxide at sporting events! Every athlete that has ever drank it has died!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 04:58 PM (vIf+g)

72
I left out Vice President, because I don't want to know what Joe Biden does with his free time.
Posted by: Qoheleth at August 05, 2015 04:58 PM (iIzG7)

We already know his favorite pastimes are skinny-dipping and eating paste.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 04:58 PM (mx5oN)

73 The fake hate crime in the Springs
http://tinyurl.com/ohjy7r2

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 05, 2015 04:59 PM (f+6Pd)

74 mmmm, paste ...

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 04:59 PM (evdj2)

75 GoPron.

Posted by: GoPro's rugged/easily cleanable sex camera line at August 05, 2015 04:59 PM (4SpVz)

76 Harris County criminal investogation of Planned Parenthood

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:00 PM (zOTsN)

77 No, no. This is the Horde. You're supposed to disagree with me on principle and throw things.



Unless you are a Johnson.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 05:00 PM (vIf+g)

78 I really think all cops should wear body-cameras.

This is a perfect example of the Double Reverse Irony Law:

SJWs demanded body cameras to provide evidence of police racism, but only ended up getting proof of police righteousness and SJW mendacity.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2015 05:00 PM (jBuUi)

79 Malkin (also CBS Denver) has another fake hate crime done by a black in front of a black church in Colorado Springs.




Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 05, 2015 04:53 PM (f+6Pd)


This is usually the story. First one I heard about was 20 years ago. A U of Iowa professor with slurs painted on his older model BMW. Inestigation showed he did it and he confessed. He wanted a new paint job for his BMW, and thought that was a good way for insurance to pay for it.

My rule is that if the "Racist Hate!" story disappears after 72 hours, it is a hoax. But they will not tell you the truth about the hoax.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (k3MbG)

80 Dack Thrombosis: "Because of the crack cocaine epidemic."

I'm not sure I want to have cameras recording that. And who has a lens wide enough to capture, say, the likes of Kim Kardashian's anatomy? That would be a lot of cocaine.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (1CroS)

81 Just had a moment to poke my head in here...so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (YP6Ap)

82 6 Everyone wins with cameras, and they should be a priority for every serious police department. The only issues are to make sure they aren't ALL the time, and how to balance that with officers either turning them off when they shouldn't, or explaining malfunctions in court.
Posted by: Grimaldi at August 05, 2015 04:38 PM (B1/t3)

There should be no tolerance for "malfunctions". The camera should be on from the time he starts till the time his shift ends.

If the body cam is "missing" time, instant termination, loss of benefits, ineligible for any career in security or LE. Loss of second amend rights.

Just giving these fuckers what they have been forcing on us.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (fO0en)

83 Very Plain SJW Woman Lies to Draw Attention to Herself


Shocka!!!


I guess the flaming orange blouse didn't do the trick so...

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (0cMkb)

84 ***"But that *must* be after conviction with the sole exception that actual evidence is, well, evidence and must be confiscated for that purpose (which, of course, is what opened this particular pandora's box anyway)."***


I'd take the whole thing a step further and say that the mere existence of the asset itself is not sufficient evidence that a crime has occurred.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (xSCb6)

85 Governor Rick Perry appointed Devon Anderson Harris County District Attorney on September 26, 2013. She succeeds her late husband, Mike Anderson. On November 4, 2014, Anderson was reelected to her first term which officially began in January 2015.


she is the County DA

they have appointed a Houston murder investogator and omeone from state police

they are trying to get a copy of the unedited video

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:02 PM (zOTsN)

86 Federal Appeals Court struck down Texas voter ID law

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:03 PM (zOTsN)

87 Everyone wins with cameras, and they should be a priority for every serious police department. The only issues are to make sure they aren't ALL the time, and how to balance that with officers either turning them off when they shouldn't, or explaining malfunctions in court.

Well... that's millions of hours of video footage that has to be collected and archived.

So you are looking at some higher costs and a lot of IT needs.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:04 PM (0NdlF)

88
Of course. She probably dreams of being denied service at the lunch counter.

Just as all liberals do.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 05:04 PM (P/xrJ)

89 Absolutely agree cops should wear body cams.

People are less likely to make false complaints if they know they're recorded, and cops are more likely to be held accountable for their actions (well at least get more paid administrative leave) if they are being recorded.

Plus everyone acts more... professional when they know they are on camera.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:04 PM (AkOaV)

90 That cop turned me into a newt.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 05, 2015 05:05 PM (W5DcG)

91 ThunderB: "Harris County Prosecutors (think Houston) have opened a criminal investigation of Gulf Coast Planned Parenthood in Houston for selling baby body parts"

Good. Let the drip, drip, drip continue until it washes out the foundation of that evil enterprise. I hope PP's entire management serves time.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:05 PM (1CroS)

92 Just had a moment to poke my head in here...so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM


Wait, what?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 05, 2015 05:05 PM (ZQfW9)

93 Harris County Commissioners and Judge are conservative as opposed to the Houston City Counsel and Mayor.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 05:06 PM (rfjjV)

94 Well... that's millions of hours of video footage that has to be collected and archived.

So you are looking at some higher costs and a lot of IT needs.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:04 PM (0NdlF)

Nah, data is cheap. Compress the video down, don't save it forever (say, 6 months retention policy) and we're talking a one time $15,000 investment for a SAN for a normal sized PD. Plus the cameras themselves, which are between $100 and $200 each, but I expect that cost to come down as demand rises.

Lot cheaper then a lawsuit.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)

95 Unless you are a Johnson.

Been called that and worse.

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 05:07 PM (4WhSY)

96 Theatre - no one kjlled except gunman?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/us/tennessee-theater-shooting/index.html

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:07 PM (k3MbG)

97 There should be no tolerance for "malfunctions". The camera should be on from the time he starts till the time his shift ends.

If the body cam is "missing" time, instant termination, loss of benefits, ineligible for any career in security or LE. Loss of second amend rights.

Just giving these fuckers what they have been forcing on us.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (fO0en)


Yeah, I agree. The cops should have a way of "muting" it or otherwise keeping the recording going while blocking video and sound if they're taking a leak, but that's about it.

I'd be in favor of all government employees being recorded and the footage being wildly available to any taxpayer who wants to see where his money is going. They all record us.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:08 PM (AkOaV)

98 Just had a moment to poke my head in here...so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM

Wait, what?
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 05, 2015 05:05 PM (ZQfW9)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/us/tennessee-theater-shooting/index.html

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:08 PM (YP6Ap)

99 According to Anderson, the Texas Rangers and the Houston Police Department have agreed to join the investigating team, which is currently forming.
"I'm anticiapting right now of putting two very senior prosecutors on this," Anderson said. "One had already conducted this type of investigation before, and she is familiar with the laws regarding abortion in Texas."

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:08 PM (zOTsN)

100 This needs reposting and maybe a SideBar:

Oh, this is PRICELESS!

Obama: "Killing humans and harvesting their organs is an atrocity that must end."

http://tinyurl.com/nvlxjs7

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (zyIlW)

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:09 PM (evdj2)

101 "but I expect that cost to come down as demand rises."

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)

Obamnomics right there.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 05, 2015 05:09 PM (fO0en)

102 The shooter's name was Skip Achmed, so a white guy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 05:09 PM (oFCZn)

103
"she claimed to be a professor at Capital Community College"



Capital Community College - Hartford CT

Graduation rate - 9%
Transfer Out - 23%

AA voc-ed city college. Professor? Naw -- unless you're calling the guy teaching the auto-body class a "professor" too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:10 PM (kdS6q)

104 Okay, the body camera thing? Great idea, right up until the cop has to use the men's room.

How 'bout we just have 'em around, like, on the car or something?

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (+YMhA)

105 ..so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....
Posted by: Jen

Wait, what?
Posted by: AltonJackson


Fully weaponized assault skunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (vIf+g)

106 101 "but I expect that cost to come down as demand rises."

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)

Obamnomics right there.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 05, 2015 05:09 PM (fO0en)

No, just basic free market economics.

Kind of like how flat screen TVs cost $20,000 when they were first introduced, and now only cost $200.

As demand goes up, more suppliers jump in, more assembly lines are turned over to making that product, and that brings the cost down. Body cams are still in the "early adopter" stage of product evolution.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (AkOaV)

107 Theatre - no one kjlled except gunman?

One sick bastard copying another.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (oVJmc)

108 Nah, data is cheap. Compress the video down, don't save it forever (say, 6 months retention policy) and we're talking a one time $15,000 investment for a SAN for a normal sized PD. Plus the cameras themselves, which are between $100 and $200 each, but I expect that cost to come down as demand rises.

Lot cheaper then a lawsuit.


Wasn't talking about storage.

Talking about personnel and process. How long do you maintain the video for, who manages access to it, how to protect it from tampering, how to preserve privacy when Big Brother is literally Watching You.

Ex: Cop enters home on warrant. Gets video of some family's entire private living space. What do you do with footage now? Publish it on the Internet?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (0NdlF)

109 39
Howie Carr read the NYT op-ed penned by a Rhodesian who explained why IT WAS GOOD THAT CECIL IS DEAD.

What an excellent piece. Must read.
Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 05, 2015 04:49 PM (TCb1y)

200,000 Dems opened up their NYT, saw that op-ed and nearly choked to death on their gluten free organic bran muffins.

I laugh.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (u0lmX)

110 Geeze, every new picture of Fareed Zakaria is uglier than the last.

Posted by: M. Murcek at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (GJUgF)

111
The cops should have a way of "muting" it or otherwise keeping the recording going while blocking video and sound if they're taking a leak
Posted by: mynewhandle




Oh, you're no fun any more!

Posted by: Sen Lindsey Graham

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (kdS6q)

112 Put a camera on every cop and one in every cop car. 95% of these problems will solve themselves quick. I know a few Cops and most are OK guys but like anything else there are a few a$$holes who cause most of the problems. Put them on notice that they are on candid camera 24/7 and those problems will vanish virtually overnight.

They are not really that expensive when you compare them to the amount of money that States, Cities and Towns pay out in questionable settlements, especially Big Cities like NYC, Boston, Chicago, etc. And they will reign in the dirty cops.

They would most likely save a butt ton of taxpayer $$$ in the long run.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (iONHu)

113 Let's hope the court treats this with the seriousness it deserves.

Without that tape, this cop could have lost his job, been branded a racist and had his life ruined just because this woman wanted a little racial attention.

She has no business keeping her job at a college and it wouldn't hurt to lock her away for 4 or 5 years as an example to those who would hang a noose on their door and claim terrorism.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (P/xrJ)

114 I'll bet that she is still working..., still 'teaching'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (9mTYi)

115 104 Okay, the body camera thing? Great idea, right up until the cop has to use the men's room.

How 'bout we just have 'em around, like, on the car or something?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (+YMhA)

The ones currently in existence allow the cops to turn the cameras off when they use the facilities.

I don't think that's a great idea. I think they should have a way to provide privacy (so a mute / black screen) function, but the cop should have no ability to turn the camera off.

Just like with dash cams.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:13 PM (AkOaV)

116 79---My rule is that if the "Racist Hate!" story disappears after 72 hours, it is a hoax. But they will not tell you the truth about the hoax.
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (k3MbG)
-----------------
Yup.
Like the story not too long ago about a noose around some statue of some black somebody at Duke.
It was an outrage!!!!!!
Then the story just.......went away.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 05, 2015 05:13 PM (cN9Sk)

117 I share the privacy concern. I don't want any enemies being able to see body cam footage if police come knocking on my door and I sure don't want would be thieves getting a tour of the security or lack thereof of peoples houses. States need to pass some privacy laws -maybe a court order is needed to view the body cam footage and they need to have some better IT security than the feds had with security clearance records.

Posted by: PaleRider at August 05, 2015 05:13 PM (dkExz)

118 I'll bet that she is still working..., still 'teaching'.

You would think that an Associates Degree in Gender and Queer Studies would open a lot of doors.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:13 PM (evdj2)

119 98 Just had a moment to poke my head in here...so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM

It was in Tennessee. Is the gunman dead because some good citizen said, "I'm a generally law-abiding person but f this 'no gun zone' crap. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6..."

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 05, 2015 05:15 PM (u0lmX)

120 A State Rep from Houston, Garnet Coleman tried to play the "cops treated me badly" during a traffic stop recently during some hearings on Sandra Bland suicide. I think he was feeling left out of the SJW outrage. Austin SO released the dashcam video of the stop. Bonehead passed a cop car doing 94 (in a car w/ state legislature plates). Cop gave him a warning and told him to slow down. Coleman then declares the deputy treated him like a child.

Coleman looked like an idiot and is now not available for comment.

Posted by: Tass at August 05, 2015 05:15 PM (UfY+0)

121 200,000 Dems opened up their NYT, saw that op-ed and nearly choked to death on their gluten free organic bran muffins.

I laugh.
Posted by: Donna
------------------------------

What do the HitchBot and Cecil have in common? Easy...., no one ever heard of either of them until the social media started working on it.

As to which has stirred the greater outrage, I am uncertain.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:15 PM (9mTYi)

122 Fully weaponized assault skunk.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (vIf+g)

What'd they do, run over the little bastard?

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:16 PM (+YMhA)

123 Talking about personnel and process. How long do you maintain the video for, who manages access to it, how to protect it from tampering, how to preserve privacy when Big Brother is literally Watching You.

Ex: Cop enters home on warrant. Gets video of some family's entire private living space. What do you do with footage now? Publish it on the Internet?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (0NdlF)

They already record every private interaction with microphones on their lapels that go back to their dash cams in their vehicles. Of course, they can and do turn the microphones off, often at the most inopportune moments..

And yes, the 'in the house' footage is the most important footage because that's when it's more likely something "bad" is going to happen or be accused of happening.

As for putting it on the internet? I don't know.

As for IT policies? Already exist. They won't have to hire anyone new, they already deal with dash cam videos every single day and with all kinds of data retention rules and laws.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:16 PM (AkOaV)

124 I point that out not because I'm opposed to it ... but technology does have its own overheads, and technology does not necessarily solve certain classes of human problems.

Ex: Britain, Big Brother cams, and crime.

Bodycams will not make human beings better, whether or not they are police officiers. It can be used as an accountability tool, but in of itself will not bring accountability.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:16 PM (0NdlF)

125 Douglas Karpen, Houstons premier abortionist, was accused of killing born alive babies but a Grand Jury no billed him

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:17 PM (zOTsN)

126 OT, and HORRIBLE. I have seen something at Ann Barnhardt's site (www.barnhardt.biz) that I will never forget and wish I could unsee.

Apparently, in China it is common for men to EAT aborted fetuses for their "life force", and Barnhardt connects this practice to the barbarity of the baby harvesting shown in the Planned Parenthood videos we've all seen.

God help us all. The world is doomed.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 05, 2015 05:17 PM (72D6h)

127 More detailed article. Perp still has no name.

http://www.tennessean.com/

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:18 PM (YP6Ap)

128
Remember the scene from the Naked Gun?
Where Drebin is using the bathroom while wearing a live microphone?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 05, 2015 05:18 PM (LWWrf)

129 As an aside, had the assemblage of junk that made HitchBot been simple piled on the roadside, the very same people who decry its fate would have cried for the depositors to be punished for littering.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:18 PM (9mTYi)

130
Roychoudhuri turned herself in Tuesday to face a charge of filing a false statement and was released after posting a $100,000 bond




Well, if noting else, if she used a bondsman this just cost her -- $10k? 10% vig on a bond, right?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:18 PM (kdS6q)

131 If only Darren Wilson was wearing a camera.

Ferguson would not habe burned.
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (k3MbG)


I firmly believe not. The populace was looking for an excuse to loot, burn and destroy their neighborhoods, direct evidence be damned.

Posted by: Bill H at August 05, 2015 05:19 PM (Baojj)

132 You would think that an Associates Degree in Gender and Queer Studies would open a lot of doors.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:13 PM (evdj2)

I'd rather not be studying those queers, at all, thank you. There is enough cognitive dissonance in my life as it is.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:19 PM (+YMhA)

133 Let me guess - the cop's name was Haven Monaghan.

He not only asked her about her English, he threw her on a glass-topped coffee table.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 05, 2015 05:19 PM (u0lmX)

134
103 Wow. So people who teach auto body aren't real teachers?
Are any people who teach vocational real teachers? Which ones?
What exactly makes someone a professor and someone else not?
Think it's easier to be an automotive technician than an English major?

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:19 PM (LAliD)

135 4 If only Darren Wilson was wearing a camera.

Ferguson would not habe burned.
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (k3MbG)

I wish that were true. The evidence against it is the dude that just murdered the cop in Mississippi during a traffic stop. His family is insistent that he didn't do anything wrong and this is all some kind of campaign of oppression.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at August 05, 2015 05:20 PM (KkVB6)

136 114
I'll bet that she is still working..., still 'teaching'.
-----------
And I'd be willing to bet that she is telling all her students about how she was racially profiled by the big bad POPO.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 05, 2015 05:20 PM (9iR5/)

137 And yes, the 'in the house' footage is the most important footage because that's when it's more likely something "bad" is going to happen or be accused of happening.
-------------------

I can hear Mrs. H now, "Yes officer, you're welcome to come in, but give me a moment to dust."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:20 PM (9mTYi)

138 Put a camera on every cop and one in every cop car. 95% of these problems will solve themselves quick. I know a few Cops and most are OK guys but like anything else there are a few a$$holes who cause most of the problems. Put them on notice that they are on candid camera 24/7 and those problems will vanish virtually overnight.

They are not really that expensive when you compare them to the amount of money that States, Cities and Towns pay out in questionable settlements, especially Big Cities like NYC, Boston, Chicago, etc. And they will reign in the dirty cops.

They would most likely save a butt ton of taxpayer $$$ in the long run.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (iONHu)



$14 Million per Year in deep blue Minneapolis MN.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:21 PM (k3MbG)

139 Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson said Wednesday her office has begun a criminal investigation into the Houston branch of Planned Parenthood after the release earlier this week of a video showing an agency executive discussing the preservation of organs of aborted fetuses.


"discussing the preservation of the organs of aborted fetuses"


that is how the video is described in the Houston Chronicle

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:21 PM (zOTsN)

140 What exactly makes someone a professor and someone else not?

A PHD usually, and tenure, but mostly the tenure.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)

141 What exactly makes someone a professor..
-------------------

Most often, but not always, an absence of real-world experience.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:22 PM (9mTYi)

142 I suspect that no amount of taping folks is going to get the assholes among us to quit assholing. Look at what is done in broad daylight these days, with no thought of what might happen. One function of the ghetto mindset is that thinking about what happens next is generally considered over-thinking the issue. Also, most folks who decide to become public assholes will do so often for the publicity as much as because they think they can get away with it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:22 PM (+YMhA)

143 I heard the cop also packed her fudge on the mattress she was carrying at the time

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 05, 2015 05:22 PM (vneYs)

144 Transfer to Capital One College.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (W5DcG)

145
As for IT policies? Already exist. They won't have to hire anyone new, they already deal with dash cam videos every single day and with all kinds of data retention rules and laws.


Good point there, but car dashcams will pretty much always be recording public areas.

A bodycam adds some privacy concerns and the corresponding need for oversight. And oversight is not cheap and not always effective - see the HIPAA and its issues.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (0NdlF)

146 ConservativeMonster: "Bodycams will not make human beings better, whether or not they are police officiers. It can be used as an accountability tool, but in of itself will not bring accountability."

Sure, people will remain imperfect, but the Overton window will get nudged into the direction of better behavior.

Defending the original charge and also charging the perp again with false reporting [and telling the world about it quite vocally] will make most think twice about trumping up "abuse".

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (1CroS)

147 141 What exactly makes someone a professor..
-------------------

Most often, but not always, an absence of real-world experience.

See Obama, Barrack...

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (hUdMz)

148
what exactly makes someone a professor and someone else not?
Posted by: MAx



"Professor" is a specific academic title. Typically, you have professors at colleges that can grant BA degrees or higher.

Not at voc-eds. Calling yourself a professor at a voc is like Ed Norton insisting that he's a "sanitation engineer".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (kdS6q)

149 >>>>-My rule is that if the "Racist Hate!" story disappears after 72 hours,
it is a hoax. But they will not tell you the truth about the hoax.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:01 PM (k3MbG)

-----------------

Yup.

Like the story not too long ago about a noose around some statue of some black somebody at Duke.

It was an outrage!!!!!!

Then the story just.......went away.
.
.
.
.Just like the Confederate Hat Flags left lying on the lawn of that Historic Black Church the other day. The story literally disappeared after one day.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (iONHu)

150
"Think it's easier to be an automotive technician than an English major?"
No speaka English, senor.
Me fix car body, si'?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (LWWrf)

151 What exactly makes someone a professor..

When you are the smartest one of the castaways.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (W5DcG)

152 I've been in DP/IT for more than three decades and I don't like to be referred to as an IT Professional. I haven't taken any state boards for what I do, nor am I accredited by any guild. So, not a professional.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (evdj2)

153
140 Yeah professor is an OCCUPATIONAL designation.
Mebbe the assertion is that voc ed instructors shouldn't be eligible for tenure???

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (LAliD)

154 I can hear Mrs. H now, "Yes officer, you're welcome to come in, but give me a moment to dust."

You're under arrest for hiding the evidence!

Posted by: Asshole Officer at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (0NdlF)

155 Twitter page is not available.

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (48QDY)

156 @81 Just had a moment to poke my head in here...so there has been a theatre spraying and the perp is dead.....
---------------------

Doesn't sound so much like a spraying, this time. The only person (other than the perp) who was hurt was a guy at the theater who was apparently bruised by the blunt end of an axe the perp was carrying. The perp had a gun, which he used, but he apparently didn't hit anyone with it.

Posted by: junior at August 05, 2015 05:25 PM (3m3mw)

157
Think it's easier to be an automotive technician than an English major?
Posted by: MAx



Depends on whether you tell me that my tires are fine but I still need an alignment...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:25 PM (kdS6q)

158 When you are the smartest one of the castaways.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (W5DcG)

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale....

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:25 PM (+YMhA)

159 that is how the video is described in the Houston Chronicle
Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 05:21 PM (zOTsN)

Good that they are not even trying to hide it anymore. If people knew and SAW what is actually going on in an abortion clinic(instead of the Disney version of a little glob of unrecognizable bloody clot being sucked out with a small vacuum, like the dentist uses) more would decide to not abort and not support abortion.

Remember how hard the left has fought to suppress women receiving ultrasounds and a 24 hour waiting period to abort? With the disingenous argument that women shouldn't be required to such an "invasive" probing of their body prior to an abortion?
The reason is they KNOW that pictures are worth a thousand words.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:26 PM (YP6Ap)

160 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:22 PM (9mTYi)

Most often, it's what someone told them.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:26 PM (48QDY)

161 Recent case in Lenexa, KS, where a SJW filmed a guy getting arrested. Put it up on the web yelling about police brutality. Body cams showed the two officers getting ready to cuff the guy when he started swinging on the cops.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 05, 2015 05:26 PM (9iR5/)

162 So, not a professional.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:24 PM (evdj2)

Yeah, like when I search up "architect" in the job seekers columns and get a bunch of IT jobs. Hint: That's not architecture, and you aren't an architect.

The truth is, nobody knows what in hell we architects do for a living, but they take our name in vain constantly.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:27 PM (+YMhA)

163 Posted by: junior at August 05, 2015 05:25 PM (3m3mw)



Perp was using pepper spray and wearing a surgical mask.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 05, 2015 05:27 PM (nL0sw)

164 Talking about personnel and process. How long do you maintain the video for, who manages access to it, how to protect it from tampering, how to preserve privacy when Big Brother is literally Watching You.

Ex: Cop enters home on warrant. Gets video of some family's entire private living space. What do you do with footage now? Publish it on the Internet?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:12 PM (0NdlF)

They already record every private interaction with microphones on their lapels that go back to their dash cams in their vehicles. Of course, they can and do turn the microphones off, often at the most inopportune moments..

And yes, the 'in the house' footage is the most important footage because that's when it's more likely something "bad" is going to happen or be accused of happening.

As for putting it on the internet? I don't know.

As for IT policies? Already exist. They won't have to hire anyone new, they already deal with dash cam videos every single day and with all kinds of data retention rules and laws.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:16 PM (AkOaV)


Third party stores it. No access without written authorization or warrant. Neutral party reviews and redacts unnecessary footage. All raw footage is seen by both parties to any dispute, just do not allow them un-redacted copies.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:27 PM (k3MbG)

165
Well, maybe my memory was not absolutely correct, but the way he looked at me indicated he thought I was a dirty dot head professor.

Posted by: Minati Roychoudhuri at August 05, 2015 05:28 PM (OiFtZ)

166 Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale....



A tale of a baseball trip....

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 05:28 PM (vIf+g)

167 Doesn't sound so much like a spraying, this time. The only person (other than the perp) who was hurt was a guy at the theater who was apparently bruised by the blunt end of an axe the perp was carrying. The perp had a gun, which he used, but he apparently didn't hit anyone with it.
Posted by: junior at August 05, 2015 05:25 PM (3m3mw)

According to the Tennessean, he sprayed three people with pepper spray first, then swung an ax at one, before he went running for the exit . Cops came in and he fired at them, then they fired back and ended it.
Several people were treated at the scene for breathing problems from the pepper spray.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:28 PM (YP6Ap)

168 With the disingenous argument that women shouldn't be required to such an "invasive" probing of their body prior to an abortion?
The reason is they KNOW that pictures are worth a thousand words.....
Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:26 PM (YP6Ap)

Yeah, like putting a hose up someone's hooha and sucking out the life growing there ISN'T invasive.

Like that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 05:28 PM (+YMhA)

169 >>>>>ConservativeMonster: "Bodycams will not make human beings better,
whether or not they are police officiers. It can be used as an
accountability tool, but in of itself will not bring accountability."



Sure, people will remain imperfect, but the Overton window will get nudged into the direction of better behavior.



Defending the original charge and also charging the perp
again with false reporting [and telling the world about it quite
vocally] will make most think twice about trumping up "abuse".
.
.
.If you think about it, this is conceptually no different that the old statement that an armed society is a polite society.

Stuff like that really does sometimes make people stop and actually start to think about the possible negative consequences of exercising questionable judgement.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 05:30 PM (iONHu)

170 Sure, people will remain imperfect, but the Overton window will get nudged into the direction of better behavior.

If the system is corrupt and does not hold the government officials accountable *now*, is the same system with video cameras actually going to be less corrupt? Or does it just push the corruption into a different area?

"Sorry, can't find you that video. The storage and all of the backups failed. For only that video, thankfully. We still have that heartwarming cat rescue footage from the other day."

The technology can help, it's just not a cure for human accountability, which is always going to involve grinding against a bureaucratic system.

(Why can I never remember how to spell bureau?!)

Posted by: ConservativeMonster1 at August 05, 2015 05:30 PM (0NdlF)

171 If she loses her job who will clean my daughter's toilet?

Posted by: Ozzy at August 05, 2015 05:30 PM (W5DcG)

172 Only thing is, it is amazing the failure rate on those body cams when they make the cops look bad.

Posted by: blaster at August 05, 2015 05:30 PM (2Ocf1)

173 Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:27 PM (k3MbG)

Third party?



Google?

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:31 PM (48QDY)

174 Was that Joey-Joe-Joe writing that op-ed? That dick owed me 30-trillion Zimbabwe dollars ($10 U.S.) so that's why he's happy I'm dead. Mo-fo.

Posted by: zombie cecil at August 05, 2015 05:31 PM (kivUY)

175 Third party?



Google?




China.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:31 PM (evdj2)

176 Did someone say "invasive probing"?

Posted by: Paolo at August 05, 2015 05:32 PM (1CroS)

177
148 I cannot express how much you don't seem to know what you're talking about here. Your idiosyncratic definition of what makes someone a professor is getting in your way I think.
Any full time instructor at a community college is on the tenure-track and will if they stay long enough and are successful become a full professor, your personal definitions notwithstanding. Is the issue one of vocational ed or not?
If I successfully teach English at a community college for thirty years am I a professor? Official job title and job recruitment fliers seem to think so-
Mebbe things are different where you live? But this is the way it is everywhere in America I'm familiar with...

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:32 PM (LAliD)

178 Fuck off, MAx. Don't start none, won't be none.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:33 PM (evdj2)

179
Mebbe the assertion is that voc ed instructors shouldn't be eligible for tenure???
Posted by: MAx



At 4 year colleges, professor mean you're on tenure track. If you just teaching for the Benjamins, you're an lecturer or instructior.

At CCs, it's more like a county job. Often unionized with job security for permanent hires, but lots of part timers working hourly, sometimes as second jobs.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:33 PM (kdS6q)

180 China.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:31 PM (evdj2)

Via Argentina.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:33 PM (48QDY)

181 Personally, I'm outraged that this blatant racism occurred in that deeply red, reactionary area filled with gun totin' CBF wavin' rednecks - suburban Connecticut.

Speaking of Connecticut, whatever happened to cob Lauraw and her hump?

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 05, 2015 05:34 PM (u0lmX)

182 How can this be? Ted Cruz (hispanic) is number 1 with racist teapartiers.

http://goo.gl/emshJ8

Posted by: maddogg at August 05, 2015 05:34 PM (xWW96)

183 How can this be? Ted Cruz (hispanic) is number 1 with racist teapartiers.

*cough*white hispanic*cough*

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:35 PM (evdj2)

184 *cough*white hispanic*cough*

Don't forget "Canadian."

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:35 PM (hUdMz)

185 165
Well, maybe my memory was not absolutely correct, but the way he looked at me indicated he thought I was a dirty dot head professor.
Posted by: Minati Roychoudhuri at August 05, 2015 05:28 PM (OiFtZ)

How stupid of him! Everyone knows you people all work at 7-11!

Posted by: Joey Chuckles at August 05, 2015 05:35 PM (u0lmX)

186 Ah, a Great White Hispanic.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:36 PM (evdj2)

187
I cannot express how much you don't seem to know what you're talking about here. Your idiosyncratic definition of what makes someone a professor is getting in your way I think. Any full time instructor at a community college is on the tenure-track and will if they stay long enough and are successful become a full professor, your personal definitions notwithstanding. Is the issue one of vocational ed or not? If I successfully teach English at a community college for thirty years am I a professor? Official job title and job recruitment fliers seem to think so-Mebbe things are different where you live? But this is the way it is everywhere in America I'm familiar with...
Posted by: MAx




Congratulations on proving you don't know sh1t about the academic process.

But, please -- do express your e-hurt more. It amuses us.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:36 PM (kdS6q)

188 There's a certain stridency at work here. I'm gonna put it off to you gettin' blasted.

Posted by: Frank Semyon at August 05, 2015 05:36 PM (S9rS1)

189 Frankly, I'm apoplectic.

Posted by: Ray Velcoro at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (S9rS1)

190 I'm feeling a little apoplectic myself.

Posted by: Frank Semyon at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (S9rS1)

191 I flatter myself to be a Data Plumber.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (evdj2)

192 Did You all see where the Pope invited Oprah and Matt Damon to the Vatican?

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (hUdMz)

193

Was she fugly?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (qCMvj)

194 Third party?



Google?



China.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:31 PM (evdj2)


Police Review Board, State AG section, something like that? Not the Cops, Not the DA, Not the Mayor or City Council.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (k3MbG)

195 The Pope, Oprah and Matt Damon walk into a bar...

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (evdj2)

196
157 If your caster is off the car will pull but you will usually not have tire wear issues.
If the toe is off but even you will not have tire wear issues but your steering wheel will be crooked as you drive.
If your thrust angle is off you usually won't have tire wear but you'll go down the road sideways.
So ya you can need an alignment even if your tire wear is normal.
Bad auto technicians are just more obvious than bad English majors. Tho not always

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (LAliD)

197 Yeah, like when I search up "architect" in the job seekers columns and
get a bunch of IT jobs. Hint: That's not architecture, and you aren't an
architect.


I have a nephew who has a masters in architecture. He does IT at an architectural firm. So blame him.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (4WhSY)

198
I flatter myself to be a Data Plumber.
Posted by: Grump928(c)




I prefer "Information Wrangler".

I get to wear a cool cowboy hat and a bandanna.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (kdS6q)

199
I like that she was arrested for her false letter, usually these caught people say "oh well, don't care if I ruined a life, buh bye". Hopefully she'll pay the price.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (ODxAs)

200 The Great White Scotsman: "If you think about it, this is conceptually no different that the old statement that an armed society is a polite society."

That's exactly what I had rolling around in my head.

It takes repeated episodes over some period of time for the public conscience to absorb a new normal, but it will happen as long as the public is acutely aware that the practice of false reports will not be dropped but prosecuted fully, every time.

Savages will always be at the gates. You have to dump hot oil on them all every time or they become more emboldened to approach and take out a pillar.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (1CroS)

201
In my field, one is compelled to take two levels of exams in order to call oneself a 'Professional'. Neither exam is trivial.

First, you must have a degree from an accredited curriculum.

Then, there is the *first* state administered exam, which is no joking matter. Both are eight hour examinations. They leave you drained.

After that, four years of *verified* work experience is required. Then comes the ballbuster exam. If one makes it through the exams, and believe me, they cause people to sweat blood, the one may call one's self, 'An engineer', but not prior to that. BTW, 57% of CE's fail.

And, licences do apply across state borders. Move from GA to NC? Better start boning up for the NC PE examination, because you are no longer an engineer, or at least, you can't call yourself one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (9mTYi)

202 In Alabama, we have an elected position call the County Constable. It seems to only exist as a ceremonial position, at least in my county, but it exists so that there is someone to arrest the Sheriff if needed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:40 PM (evdj2)

203 I prefer "Information Wrangler".

I get to wear a cool cowboy hat and a bandanna.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (kdS6q)

Along with your assless chaps?

Posted by: maddogg at August 05, 2015 05:40 PM (xWW96)

204 Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (hUdMz)

Yeah. If I was Catholic I'd be as proud of my leader, as I am currently proud of my leader as an American.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:40 PM (48QDY)

205 204 Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:37 PM (hUdMz)

Yeah. If I was Catholic I'd be as proud of my leader, as I am currently proud of my leader as an American.
Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:40 PM

Exactly...

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:41 PM (hUdMz)

206 In Alabama, we have an elected position call the County Constable. It seems to only exist as a ceremonial position, at least in my county, but it exists so that there is someone to arrest the Sheriff if needed.
-----------------

In some jurisdictions, that authority lies only with the Coroner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:41 PM (9mTYi)

207 Good point there, but car dashcams will pretty much always be recording public areas.

A bodycam adds some privacy concerns and the corresponding need for oversight. And oversight is not cheap and not always effective - see the HIPAA and its issues.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 05:23 PM (0NdlF)


Okay, and even if I concede that there could be some additional cost, I still think that this is one place where we shouldn't skimp out on spending money -- we're talking about government officials abusing their power, and pervasive rumors by citizens against said officials for abusing their power, with no way to know for sure what happened. Which, by the way, leads to a lot of BS lawsuits being settled out of court when a video could have saved the city a lot of money.

So whatever the (minimal) cost, I don't think that should be an objection. I don't remember anyone objecting to dash cams (which were much more expensive at the time) due to cost. Privacy concerns, yes.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:42 PM (AkOaV)

208 Police Review Board, State AG section, something like that? Not the Cops, Not the DA, Not the Mayor or City Council.
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:38 PM (k3MbG)

Half Joshing.

Well maybe a third.

Personally I don't trust our state AG.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:43 PM (48QDY)

209 ConservativeMonster: "The technology can help, it's just not a cure for human accountability, which is always going to involve grinding against a bureaucratic system."

Sure. It won't be perfect because people... they're the worst.

Still, we do have tools that can rectify some problems. That's a start. I think the gains that can be made outpace the new arenas of abuse.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:43 PM (1CroS)

210 Half Joshing.

Well maybe a third.

Personally I don't trust our state AG.
You in CA.?

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:44 PM (hUdMz)

211
187 Teacher for 26 years. Taught for years at the University and community college levels.
But by all means I know nothing about the academic process. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Never know who ya might run into on the internet.
grump928 if I had any idea what you were talking about your message might be more effective.

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:44 PM (LAliD)

212 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:44 PM (evdj2)

213 Personally I don't trust our state AG.
Posted by: Golfman
----
heh. Roy Cooper (D).

Yeah, the guy is a Dem quisling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:45 PM (9mTYi)

214 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:39 PM (9mTYi)

Mike, most State Engineering Licensing Boards will accept another state's license. Just Fill out the form and pay the necessary fees. And then keep track of that state's continuing education requirements and such too.

And DO NOT let the license lapse!

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 05:45 PM (k3MbG)

215 If anyone is still at work, stay away from Weasel Zippers. Anyone not at work, go there now!

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (HstNY)

216 Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:44 PM (hUdMz)

Nope. NC. State AG is Dem fave for Governor.

See 212.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (48QDY)

217
Teacher for 26 years. Taught for years at the University and community college levels.But by all means I know nothing about the academic process. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted by: MAx




Of course you are, Dear Boy. Everyone on the internet is what they type.

This guy we know, he's like richer than Donald Trump.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (kdS6q)

218 Last I saw was some drivel about the Pope "welcoming" Jane and her rich second husband, and John with his big boobed younger second wife.

Because it's the Christian thing to do or something.

They really do need to set up a synod at, I dunno, Avignon to explain the Gospels to this doofus.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (vneYs)

219 I admit, I do like the idea of video being available to support criminal investigations.

I like it when this bint in the article is proven to be lying.

I like it when the former cop in North Charleston is proven to be a lier.

I really generally am happy with truth and correct facts, no matter which way the facts take us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (VPLuQ)

220 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (KCxzN)

221 Laurie David's Cervix: "At 4 year colleges, professor mean you're on tenure track. If you just teaching for the Benjamins, you're an lecturer or instructior."

Are you sure about that? It's been a while but I had tenure-tracked and non-tenure-tracked professors both. And they were all titled Professors. The tenured ones were just, generally, more obnoxious.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (1CroS)

222 Dammit.

Posted by: Golfman at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (48QDY)

223 I was briefly working for EDS at the time they were compelled to stop calling us Software Engineers, since Engineer has a legal definition and we didn't fit it and state raised a stink. I think we became analysts or something like that.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (evdj2)

224 202 In Alabama, we have an elected position call the County Constable. It seems to only exist as a ceremonial position, at least in my county, but it exists so that there is someone to arrest the Sheriff if needed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 05:40 PM (evdj2)
------------
Now see, THAT's cool.
Especially if it's only got a token salary.
But a nifty outfit. With a sword and mace.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 05, 2015 05:49 PM (cN9Sk)

225 This guy we know, he's like richer than Donald Trump.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (kdS6q)

Yeah? Well little known fact about me: not only am I fabulously wealthy, but I'm also banging Kate Upton on the side.

Shhh.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:49 PM (AkOaV)

226 Bad profs, bad profs, bad profs, bad profs,
whatchew gonna do when they come for you?

Posted by: the Butcher at August 05, 2015 05:49 PM (fUjxW)

227 kind of off topic and NOT safe for work or ANY place else:

you have been warned:

from weaselzippers (not Joe Biden trying to eat with chop sticks)

http://tinyurl.com/ne83kr2

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 05:49 PM (qSIlh)

228 She was on sabbatical to write a book on racial profiling and she needed some material.
Then that cracker cop racially profiled her, insulted her and the rest is history.

Wail til Al finds out about this. Heads will roll, I'm tellin' ya.

Posted by: Hank at August 05, 2015 05:50 PM (N0Gml)

229 re 225: didn't know it had moved

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 05:50 PM (qSIlh)

230
I believe chemjeff is on the tenure (professor) track at a community college.
You be the one to tell him that he won't be a real professor.

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 05:50 PM (LAliD)

231 I'm also banging Kate Upton on the side.

Posted by: mynewhandle


Pro tip:

It's somewhat more enjoyable doing it in the va-jay-jay.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2015 05:51 PM (jBuUi)

232 Engineer has a legal definition...
---------------

Yes..., and a consequent liability. Properly so, I think.

At any rate, when I hear the word 'professional', I tend to dismiss it, unless it is a bona fide title.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:51 PM (9mTYi)

233 If anyone is still at work, stay away from Weasel Zippers. Anyone not at work, go there now!
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 05, 2015 05:46 PM (HstNY)


rock of gibraltar

doesn't look real

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 05:51 PM (qCMvj)

234 221 Laurie David's Cervix: "At 4 year colleges, professor mean you're on tenure track. If you just teaching for the Benjamins, you're an lecturer or instructior."

Are you sure about that? It's been a while but I had tenure-tracked and non-tenure-tracked professors both. And they were all titled Professors. The tenured ones were just, generally, more obnoxious.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:47 PM (1CroS)


When I was in school, it was "adjunct professor" (not on tenure track) "associate professor" (on tenure track, may be tenure) and then just "professor" which usually meant already tenured, but not always.

And lecturer referred to any professors who lecture (as opposed to doing research or teaching a none-lecturing class)

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 05:52 PM (AkOaV)

235 If anyone is still at work, stay away from Weasel Zippers. Anyone not at work, go there now!



Which story? Cecil's university tracking paid for by The Dallas Safari Club, or the black lady walking around NYC nekkid?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 05:52 PM (vIf+g)

236 "but I'm also banging Kate Upton on the side. "

Rotate her 90 degrees.

More fun that way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 05:52 PM (VPLuQ)

237 kind of off topic and NOT safe for work or ANY place else:

you have been warned:

from weaselzippers (not Joe Biden trying to eat with chop sticks)

http://tinyurl.com/ne83kr2
Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 05:49 PM (qSIlh)

Umm, is she wearing white heels to signify she's a virgin?
Just asking, just asking.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 05:53 PM (YP6Ap)

238 This is the most powerful testament I know to how heterosexist oppression drives people to despair and shame and destroys lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEeLtqtNvU

Posted by: Emma Sulkowicz at August 05, 2015 05:54 PM (E5UB0)

239 237 kind of off topic and NOT safe for work or ANY place else:

you have been warned:

from weaselzippers (not Joe Biden trying to eat with chop sticks)

That's a lot of Woman

Posted by: donna at August 05, 2015 05:54 PM (hUdMz)

240
I had tenure-tracked and non-tenure-tracked professors both. And they were all titled Professors.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel



Usually. Although some schools have listed jobs as "non-tenure track assistant professor" meaning -- you still a lecturer, but you get put the better sounding title on your resume without their being any practical difference.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 05:55 PM (kdS6q)

241 I certainly hope this was not a lady pretending to be black like that crazy woman Rachael or whatever her name was.

Oh, and rdbrewer...love the family crest of !jeb! The only thing it lacks is a string of pearls around his goiter like his Mama's (not to insult Miz Barbara, but she really, really should have kept this dweeb from running). I do think it sort of insults the fleu de lis. Perhaps a taco would be better.

Remember when his wife was doing something semi-illegal with jewelry? Importing? I dunno. Something. Ok, just looked it up: declared only $500k for $20,000 in jewels on return flight from Paris. No biggie.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, Walker/whoever 2016 at August 05, 2015 05:56 PM (2qF5m)

242 mynewhandle@234,

That's about the way I remember it. Same hierarchy/titles.

Didn't really care. They were more expert than I on the subjects and some could actually communicate the knowledge. And the worst one in my school of expertise was a tenured professor, department head. I learned that from his classes.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 05, 2015 05:57 PM (1CroS)

243 Wait a minute here. Yankee cops profile people?



I thought just the dumb Southern Cops did that?

Posted by: NY Times Editors at August 05, 2015 05:57 PM (0FSuD)

244 Just for the sake of discussion, what potential slave-buyer would put in a bid on her ? I mean, even Rubens had certain standards.

How many calories a day have do you got to gobble down to support that much body weight?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2015 05:58 PM (9mTYi)

245 OK, whoever promises me one of these gets my vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4uSWtazRCM

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 05, 2015 06:00 PM (6tn7e)

246 Everyone in Russia seems to have a dash cam for insurance purposes. There's tons of youtube clips of crazy accidents from Russia.

Awhile ago there was a video of a self-proclaimed peace-loving free citizen who screeched rape and shouted expletives when she was being arrested. Needlessto say there was no rape at all, the cop was cool as a cucumber.

With more cop cameras we could have more of the same entertainment.

Posted by: fb at August 05, 2015 06:00 PM (wjd4o)

247 I can spend almost as much time at Zip's place as I can here.

Where and how he keeps track of all the crap he finds, I don't know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 06:00 PM (VPLuQ)

248 The enemy won't reveal itself, Raymond. It stymies my retribution. It's like blue balls...in your heart.

Posted by: Frank Semyon at August 05, 2015 06:01 PM (S9rS1)

249 re 244: maybe in a previous life she was a Clydesdale.

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 06:01 PM (qSIlh)

250 How many calories a day have do you got to gobble down to support that much body weight?

Not going to do that math.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 05, 2015 06:01 PM (4WhSY)

251 >>Yeah? Well little known fact about me: not only am I fabulously wealthy, but I'm also banging Kate Upton on the side.

Shhh.
Posted by: mynewhandle

Well I get the front and the back not just the side.

Posted by: Cow Cow at August 05, 2015 06:01 PM (c7vUv)

252 _ _"Someone was saying how maybe certain segments of the population
hadn't quite thought out the implications of having all cops wearing
body cameras because people are going to get an eyeful of what cops have
to put up with on a daily basis.



Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 05, 2015 04:41 PM (oFCZn)
"


Can't wait to see those videos on "Bad Boys" TV.


Posted by: Ralph at August 05, 2015 06:01 PM (Vf2XA)

253
They were more expert than I on the subjects and some could actually communicate the knowledge. And the worst one in my school of expertise was a tenured professor, department head.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel



Agreed. Tenured profs, in general could gaf about teaching, and students for that matter. Students just take them away from their research. The exception being if the class is in their specific area of interest, like a 400 level seminar. Then they light up.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 06:02 PM (kdS6q)

254 re 247: aren't there a couple of people posting there? Maybe they also get tips from readers, I dunno. Maybe they do like Glen Reynolds and drink puppy smoothies for energy.

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 06:03 PM (qSIlh)

255 Nothing says "Authentic Slave Artistic Awareness Campaign" like shiny white high heels.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 06:03 PM (xSCb6)

256 4 If only Darren Wilson was wearing a camera.

Ferguson would not habe burned.
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (k3MbG)

The ultimate irony. If the police actually spent a little up front they'd save a buttload later.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Completely Unreasonable at August 05, 2015 06:03 PM (oRc1K)

257 Some Indians (the South Asian kind) are spring-loaded to claiming discrimination and victimization in a way that only Al Sharpton could admire.

Probably has to do with the caste system.

Posted by: Logicia at August 05, 2015 06:03 PM (uSM1W)

258 Yep, we're raycist as hell, we are!

Just ask our buddy, The Truth.

Posted by: The Facts at August 05, 2015 06:03 PM (dGKUu)

259 >>>>That's exactly what I had rolling around in my head.



It takes repeated episodes over some period of time for the public
conscience to absorb a new normal, but it will happen as long as the
public is acutely aware that the practice of false reports will not be
dropped but prosecuted fully, every time.



Savages will always be at the gates. You have to dump hot oil on
them all every time or they become more emboldened to approach and take
out a pillar.
.
.
.Over the last couple of decades or so the public has been conditioned rightly or wrongly to believe that most Cops are bad, they are not your friend, etc. This is a near universal belief now and it wasn't that way just 20-25 years ago. That comes from various sources and for the most part is accepted by Society as a whole as truth. When that gets mixed in with videos of Police losing control on a near daily basis that just reinforces what Society believes to be true regardless of facts or circumstances. And people are going to take advantage of that.

Those beliefs influence Juries and more importantly they unduly influence Governing bodies that hold fiduciary responsibility for the actions of their Police Forces, all of which leads to the recent increases in settlements for Police misconduct.

If universal body/car cameras were introduced, I believe that the amount of those cases would fall drastically.

It would also crack down on the rouge or bad Cops out there as a nice side effect.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 06:04 PM (iONHu)

260 nood, but not a fat black woman posing in public

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 06:06 PM (xSCb6)

261 @237

So the old joke about rolling them around in flour to find the wet spot is true.



Who knew that old Black women had three tits. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be feeding that.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 05, 2015 06:07 PM (0FSuD)

262 If one were to go back to Zip's place now, there is a new thread concerning Cecil.

And it has an interesting twist to it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 06:07 PM (VPLuQ)

263 As someone else mentioned, the major airlines have gone full SJW and are banning the transportation of legally hunted animal species capes, horns, etc.

See the following story at the Dallas Safari Club and the actual facts regarding the animals included in the airlines bans.

http://dscnewscenter.org/2015/08/dsc-calls-for-lifting-of-air-freight-bans-on-hunted-trophies/

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2015 06:07 PM (YP6Ap)

264 "What happened with the case of the cop that chased the guy and then shot him on camera?"

If you are talking about the North Charleston shooting, I am pretty sure that cop is toast.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at August 05, 2015 06:08 PM (JgC5a)

265 >>>It would also crack down on the rouge or bad Cops out there as a nice side effect.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 05, 2015 06:04 PM (iONHu)

Honestly, I luvz a cop in a shade of rouge......it speaks to me of being overpowered by rough, male hands.......*swoon*


Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at August 05, 2015 06:08 PM (dGKUu)

266 "body-cams will out liars and force citizens to not act like such complete jackasses."

In light of the steady drumbeat of claims the Planned Parenthood videos were "edited" and therefore fraudulent, even with the full videos available,
I'm curious why Ace and all the other camera optimists don't think those claims won't be made about body-cam videos which are made with the same tech.

Sure it would convince anyone rational, but SJWs, #Black Lives Matter, and the Left in general are NOT rational, and will be able to get riots going regardless.

Posted by: SDN at August 05, 2015 06:49 PM (p/ktF)

267 "Minati Roychoudhuri"


Christ, even the dots are getting in on the act now?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 05, 2015 06:51 PM (oKE6c)

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