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Whoa: Jezebel Confesses That Conservative Women are More Attractive Than Their Liberal Counterparts

Kira Davis discusses this surprising admission.

From Jezebel, after confessing the obvious:

So why is this happening? American conservatism is profoundly tied up with the old-fashioned gender paradigm in which husbands are active providers and women are passive nurturers. In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked. That is a deeply conservative idea. You could argue that the conservative path is much friendlier to conventionally attractive women than it is to those with less "mainstream" looks. So is it any surprise that Republican women tend to read "pretty"? It's a much tougher path for the women who don't.

Kira Davis argues that this is because conservative women aren't afraid of their femininity nor to look pleasing to a Penis Monster.

That may be part of it, but I think it's more than behavior and confidence at work here; I think it's about actual looks.

One thing you really can't get away from in politics is that, generally -- and here I speak in broad, broad generalities just like Davis and Jezebel do -- politics can be reduced to a battle of the Inners and the Outers.

The Inners have the inside track to conventional success; they are smart, make good choices and thus good money, and are, as far as women go, generally gifted with the conventional charms of femininity. They're reasonably attractive.

Inners do not rebel against the natural (not conspiratorially imposed, but natural) sort of social sorting that occurs because they generally come out okay by the conventional sort of social sorting.

The Outers, on the other hand, are (or at least feel) frozen out from the conventional pathways to social status-gaining. This could be because they are of a disfavored race, or speak a disfavored language as their first, or have a disfavored sexual orientation, or just aren't very gifted with mental virtues (from intelligence, to discipline, to emotional IQ, to steadiness), and hence don't advance much economically in the normal, natural system of social sorting.

Thus, they oppose the natural system of social sorting, and want to upend it, and make everyone forcibly "equal," and so forth.

Now, physical attractiveness is important to everyone, not just women -- ugly, fat dudes feel the sting of rejection and ostracism as acutely as women (take it from one who knows) -- but I would say that women, being historically limited in their potential to social advancement, feel, rightly, that physical attractiveness is more important to their social advancement than it is to men.

And thus, there is a natural sort of gravitational pull on women who are not physically attractive to the Outers party, the party that wants to throw out standard conventions of physical beauty and make everyone "equal" in this dimension, somehow.

Meanwhile, more attractive women are all saying the same thing: F*** that noise.

Even the hardest-core feminist preaching about the Beauty Myth and how this is all terribly unfair nevertheless actually takes full advantage of her physical attractiveness, if she has it. (Most of the feminists I see getting book deals are actually pretty cute, and as far as I know, none of them has turned down a book deal; none has said, "you are unfairly rewarding me for my lookability on television; give this contract to a far less conventionally attractive feminist.")

So I disagree with Kira Davis about this being all about embracing the feminine and being confident in the feminine. I'm sure there's some of that (people can act pretty, people can dress pretty), but a lot of this is much deeper, and goes to the most elemental, subterranean rivers in the human mind, and goes back, in fact, seared into each person's brain, to his first socializations in kindergarten and first and second grades, and his or her reaction to being sorted by others into the Inner circle or Outer darkness.

(For disclosure's sake, I was always more of an Outer darkness sort of person, though I could occasionally blend into the furthest, least desirable sections on the edge of the Inners.* I kind of have a natural sympathy for other Outers, but my sympathy runs out when they seek a sort of Loser's Vengeance on the rest of the world. You kind of have to get over the bruises and hurts of second grade, and find a path for yourself that doesn't involve coercively disadvantaging all people ahead of you in line with state-imposed artificial penalties.)

* By the way, this is part of the reason I'm brusque with strangers. I actually don't know how to handle compliments gracefully because I'm still sort of baffled to even receive one. I'm still thinking (as I think most people are thinking) with cerebral patterns formed from kindergarten to second grade.

Teachers like me -- the other kids don't.

So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this. I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally.


Posted by: Ace at 01:45 PM




Comments

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1 First?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 01:47 PM (DlmoZ)

2 Second?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 01:47 PM (DlmoZ)

3 Third even?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 01:47 PM (DlmoZ)

4 Fourth?

Conservative women are more attractive than their liberal counterparts? Know why? Cause they shave their armpits.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 01:48 PM (DlmoZ)

5 Penis Monster?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 05, 2015 01:49 PM (iQIUe)

6 "women are passive nurturers."

That's part of the confusion. *Active* nurturing would be more accurate. She's confused lack of existential angst for passivity.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 01:50 PM (GDulk)

7 "A real man is no man at all without an important woman somewhere in his life."

Wut?

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 01:51 PM (zNxID)

8 I don't think "The husband works, the wife stays at home" is the conventional conservative model. Not anymore. I know a lot of conservative wives/moms who work. I think it's more fair to say that conservative men (and women) are more open to other options--like the wife staying home to raise the family.

Posted by: Mike at August 05, 2015 01:51 PM (ISxUB)

9 The Weather Channel gals give me a warm front. As do any gals playing Womens' Pro Beach Volleyball.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 05, 2015 01:51 PM (VcOqI)

10 Penis Monster?

You rang?

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 01:51 PM (4WhSY)

11 Yeah, I think you've got it down there ace.

It bothers me--why do these folks say "We must tear down the Ins!" instead of "F*** the Ins, let's make our own place to be happy and prosper!"

Hmm. That last thought is a great sentiment to found a nation on! Somebody should try it someday...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (2l5vw)

12 When you are a shrewish slob in life, so are your politics.

Posted by: Pat at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (nwnmt)

13 I'm amused by the fact that, say 20 years ago, the attitude would be "physical beauty is shallow, I'm above that sort of thing" and now it's "we must redefine beauty so that everyone says I'm beautiful."

Feminism used to aspire to be a deep-thinking philosophy but now it's just Cosmo girl with man hatred.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (b65cm)

14 I like your blog ace.

Posted by: Mr. Fisto at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (HstNY)

15 In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked.

You have to be pretty to begin with for this to work, ladies.

But Limbaugh's undeniable truth #24 is proven truer every day: "Feminism was established so as to permit unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (39g3+)

16 I know it is part of his schtick and I hate to blow it for him, but Ace is not particularly ugly or fat at all and is not as socially inept as he makes out. He does, however, have no dick.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 05, 2015 01:52 PM (KbhWO)

17 10 Penis Monster?

You rang?
Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 01:51 PM (4WhSY)


You speak English?

Huh. I thought you spoke Japanese.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 01:53 PM (b65cm)

18 Inner-outer, good insight. I would take it another step: most conventional white liberals are failed inners. They expected, they felt entitled to, they believed in the system to reward them. However, they proved uncompetitive, both in the market and sexually, and when they flame out, they don't have strength to blame self. Thus, they go bitter lib, to punish and destroy a system that failed to recognize their illusionary excellence. That's why they're surly, hostile, mendacious and generally annoying as hell.

Posted by: OttotheP at August 05, 2015 01:53 PM (D0aW1)

19 Women are obsessed with shit like this.

Which is how we get shits like Obama.

There, I said it.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 05, 2015 01:53 PM (Yrjee)

20 I think it also has to do with what's going on inside. I've met many women who aren't going to be winning any beauty pageant any time soon who are lovely and confident. You also have the attractive ones who are empty inside and gravitate towards feminist crap.

I have a relative who has always been hailed as beautiful from the time we were kids yet has made bad decisions in life and just overall had a bad and sad attitude. So she's been drawn to the crazy victimology groups.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 05, 2015 01:54 PM (ttpW1)

21 I do believe that ugly and evil inside almost always becomes ugly and evil outside, in time. Its not always true but the general rule holds. If you are bitter, hateful, angry, and cruel inside, your face will tend to show it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 01:54 PM (39g3+)

22 First of all, I wish to be addressed as "Mr. [joncelli's Real Name], Penis Monster" from here on out.

Secondly, it's stunning how much of a person's politics is decided by the sorting described by ace. So much of our politics now is the outer kids getting back at the inner kids that I despair for the Republic; it's second grade with government coercion behind it.

Posted by: joncelli, Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

23 >>>>American conservatism is profoundly tied up with the old-fashioned gender paradigm in which husbands are active providers and women are passive nurturers. In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked. That is a deeply conservative idea.

That's not "american conservatism" that's biology.

I mean, not the way she phrased it, but the "undesirable" outcome she speaks of: men providing, women nurturing.

There's not some secret patriarchal conspiracy that makes every society known to man organize itself in that way. Biology, evolution, physiology, whatever is the basis, not mean old white men who are scared of wymynz.

Oh, also, I think it's Rush Limbaugh who said, "feminism was invented to give ugly women a place in mainstream society" or something along those lines.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 01:54 PM (AkOaV)

24 You don't think I'm pretty? Well you're wrong I'm every bit as attractive as Megyn Kelly and so is my friend Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Barbra Mikulski at August 05, 2015 01:55 PM (AQYnQ)

25 This article really needs a picture of Rosa DeLauro.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 01:55 PM (P/xrJ)

26 Maybe if we had a law that required all women to walk on their hands things would be different. They all look the same upside down.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at August 05, 2015 01:55 PM (oDCMR)

27
Following links down to the origional article:

So yeah, conservatives, you can keep your "hot." I'm good. I'll be over here, with my job and my brain and my personality and with this lady (Michele Obama).

Lindy West - Jezebel




And your cat. You've got Mr Frisky too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (kdS6q)

28 Swallowing bile and filling your head with crap will make you ugly.

Posted by: Roy at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (VndSC)

29 It's not really a book on charm, but I recommend "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie; It's a good book for anyone to read about smooth social interactions. ****Warning, He was a Christian and mentions quotes from the Bible, but not in a heavy handed way.


FenelonSpoke "I like your blog, Ace"

Ace; "Thanks; I appreciate that."

See, that wasn't so hard. ;^)

(That actually isn't in Carnegie's book. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (OSs/l)

30 Loser's Vengeance motivates most of Leftism.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (8ZskC)

31 >In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make
herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked.
That is a deeply conservative idea.

What bullshit. The core of conservatism is individualism. I'm cool with each individual picking their own path. As a point of fact, many men and women gravitate toward traditional roles because that's what they like, which is how they became traditional in the first goddamned place, right? I'm okay with that. I'm okay with the reverse too.

I have a conservative friend whose lawyer wife brings home the money and he takes care of the kids. They're happy and who gives a fuck? Their daughters love to go fishing and hiking with daddy. I'm not the one trying to force anyone to do anything or telling anyone how to live. The progs are the ones imposing their view on the rest of the world.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (XqeyF)

32 You speak English?



Huh. I thought you spoke Japanese.


Rosetta Stone lessons.

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (4WhSY)

33 Not only didn't teachers like me, other kids weren't that crazy about me either.

Posted by: Redriverted at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (nClJc)

34 Just keep telling yourselves you're happy, lefties.

Posted by: brak at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (Tj+s6)

35 That whole thing about gender paradigms and conservative women waiting for men to pick them is codswallop.

You know why conservative women are more attractive? Because, and I say this as a rage bunny, conservative women are not as full of burning bitterness and bile. That makes you ugly, no matter how pretty you are.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

36 I think it also has to do with what's going on inside.

This, to the extent that I think any of this more attractive/less attractive thing is actually true, has long been my explanation.

Anger isn't pretty. Some of these people are walking around showing their unhappy/evil insides on their face, like dorian's portrait.

Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (lIU4e)

37 So much of our politics now is the outer kids getting back at the inner kids that I despair for the Republic; it's second grade with government coercion behind it.

You know what's worse? The two actually swapped places, but the former Outers still act like it's the way it's always been!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (2l5vw)

38 This article really needs a picture of Rosa DeLauro.

----

No.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (8XRCm)

39 19 A huge number of women voted for Obama because they fantasized about having sex with him.The reality probably would have seriously disappointed them.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (sPO3u)

40 Meh. Selfish bitches who are good-looking are still good-looking. Also, plenty of super nice unattractive women are still physically unattractive. But they're super nice, so they're attractive for other reasons.

It is what it is.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 01:58 PM (zNxID)

41 Teachers like me -- the other kids don't.


awwww ace. Your coat has the shimmer of a Breck girl.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 05, 2015 01:58 PM (fWAjv)

42 I think it also has to do with what's going on inside. I've met many women who aren't going to be winning any beauty pageant any time soon who are lovely and confident.

You know who the girls are who are the most attractive to guys? The slightly chubby, always fun and friendly girl that's cute, but not super hot. She's the one all the guys are happy to see and hang out with.

The super hot model-quality girl is harder to hang out with and is usually so self-conscious or self-obsessed she's no fun to be around.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 01:58 PM (39g3+)

43 Do my political beliefs make my ass look fat?

Posted by: Vanity Tag at August 05, 2015 01:58 PM (VcOqI)

44 26
Maybe if we had a law that required all women to walk on their hands
things would be different. They all look the same upside down.

You haven't seen Caitlin, have you?

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (DlmoZ)

45 Jezebel Confesses That Conservative Women are More Attractive Than Their Liberal Counterparts

-
And they must be punished.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (XUKZU)

46 Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (4WhSY)


-----

Say.... arent you one of the new characters on Sesame Street????

Posted by: fixerupper at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (8XRCm)

47 I dunno, I think Lynne Stewart is pretty hot.

Posted by: The Guy Who Used to Dig Janet Napolitano, But Now Digs Lynne Stewart at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (8ZskC)

48

I call bull-shit,, come on, just look how hawt I am.....

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (HSmrB)

49 I saw the Breck girls recently. There ain't nothing uglier than an old white woman.

Posted by: Vanity Tag at August 05, 2015 01:59 PM (VcOqI)

50 Ave-Take a vacation, or at least do so in not reading anything by feminists for a week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:00 PM (OSs/l)

51 Take Sarah Palin for example, she don't do nothing except sit around the house having babies and fixing cookies.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 05, 2015 02:00 PM (XUKZU)

52 Endorsed.

29 "FenelonSpoke "I like your blog, Ace"

Ace; "Thanks; I appreciate that."

See, that wasn't so hard. ;^) "

Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at August 05, 2015 02:00 PM (p9FbV)

53 Beauty for a woman is a much more valuable commodity. Sure, Brad Pitt makes millions off of his looks, but if he hadn't gone into Hollywood, his looks might have entitled him to maybe get himself a pretty wife about his age who will quickly turn to alcoholism and cost him half his salary working construction.

A woman who looks like Angelina Jolie has vast options outside of Hollywood. In addition, both men and women treat pretty women better just in everyday life.

But liberals don't want to invert the paradigm. They want women to be passive. They want them to just find another sugar daddy.

Women don't like to make the first move because being selected by a man reinforces their sense of value. We all like feeling that we have a high market value when it comes to all things, but particularly romance.

When a woman makes the first move it doesn't make the man feel valuable, it makes the woman appear less valuable. She should be in high demand and clearly is not.

Actually, if you look at male-female interaction through the lens of economics, it all makes perfect sense. Also, you will never date again.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 02:00 PM (b65cm)

54 I think it has more to do with the idea that conservative women are more likely to believe in self-reliance, "I'm responsible for what happens to me" and thus take action to improve their looks. They get to the gym, they buy makeup, they shop for nice clothes that flatter their figures. Additionally, conservatives are more likely to adopt healthier attitudes. Being kind to people, appreciating what they have instead of envying others, and viewing the world in a generally positive light. This attitude changes their appearance to others. A sweet disposition makes an average woman prettier. In contrast, a beautiful woman who is an entitled bitch often is off-putting.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 05, 2015 02:01 PM (OiH3z)

55 I call bull-shit,, come on, just look how hawt I am.....





Posted by: Hillary Clinton


I'm shrinking!

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 02:01 PM (4WhSY)

56 The two actually swapped places, but the former Outers still act like it's the way it's always been!

Its hilarious. If you point out to a leftist that they ARE the man, they get all flustered and confused, denying it. Their entire worldview depends on them being on the outside rebelling against the mainstream. That they have become the mainstream is simply unthinkable to them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:01 PM (39g3+)

57 Maybe if we had a law that required all women to walk on their hands
things would be different. They all look the same upside down.

-----

Heh. A blonde walking on her hands is called a Brunette with bad breath

Posted by: fixerupper at August 05, 2015 02:01 PM (8XRCm)

58 "American conservatism is profoundly tied up with the old-fashioned gender paradigm in which husbands are active providers and women are passive nurturers. . . ." One wonders how often Ms. Davis emerges from the Cocoon and actually has had first hand contact with the people she is mind-raping.

Posted by: Bilwick at August 05, 2015 02:02 PM (xDoHK)

59 "The super hot model-quality girl is harder to hang out with and is usually so self-conscious or self-obsessed she's no fun to be around."

Sometimes.

Model-quality girls that don't feel the need to prattle on about every damned thing that pops into their heads. Their aloofness can make them pleasant company.

Until they call you at work from rehab.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:02 PM (zNxID)

60 Ace; on the receiving compliments issue, I have found it helpful to be free with compliments to others (real ones, based in what they do, rather than "self-esteem" compliments). And to be freely thankful; especially when someone compliments you. It may feel forced and fake at first, but it is nice habit to get into.

Posted by: LochLomondFarms at August 05, 2015 02:02 PM (oX3bN)

61 I think the real thing is that ugliness on the inside manifests on the outside in one way or another and a lot (I mean a LOT) of feministsare basically misandry spewing fascists with delusions of victimhood.

Posted by: Ben (the original) at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (DcG8N)

62 Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 01:57 PM (sPO3u)

Women who fantasized about having sex with Obama were people like Lena Dunham who did that awful commercial "Your first time ought to be special". Most normal people-even Democrat voters above a certain age were not fantasizing about Obama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (OSs/l)

63 My first reaction to a compliment is to wonder "what do they want from me?". Because that's what usually follows. They're buttering me up for a favor or to make fun of me later.

I've gotten away from that as I've gotten older. But then the compliments aren't coming fast and furiously either.

Plus:
pretty is only skin deep but money can do a lot to help.

Ugly goes to the bone.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (x3GpS)

64 In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked.

That is a deeply conservative idea.


Who makes up these things for you?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (WIIRD)

65 A smile goes a long way in making one beautiful. And I have never met a bigger bunch on sniveling sourpusses as those on the left.

Smile lefties, make a sammich or two, and you might land a husband.

Posted by: rebel flounder at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (Vf5rR)

66 "I think it has more to do with the idea that conservative women are more likely to believe in self-reliance"

+1

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (zNxID)

67
You know who the girls are who are the most
attractive to guys? The slightly chubby, always fun and friendly girl
that's cute, but not super hot. She's the one all the guys are happy to
see and hang out with.




Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 01:58 PM (39g3+)


I call this "Soccer-mom hot". She's the kind of woman you can imagine spending a Saturday cheering at the kids games, and later that night, when they're all tucked in bed, she'll grab a glass of wine or a cocktail and ride you into the floorboards.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (OiH3z)

68 56% - The percentage of female voters who voted for Barack Obama in 2008, versus 43% for John McCain

55 % of women voted for Obama in 2012. 44%
voted for Mitt Romney. Men preferred Romney by a margin of 52 to 45
percent, and women made up about 54% of the electorate in 2012.


I would have to guess that the largest percentage of "looks-obsessed" aka self-loathing women were in the Obama voting bloc.



Posted by: some random meathead at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (Yrjee)

69

It's not always the case, but looks feed confidence, as well as confidence feeds looks.

I was one of the lucky women (not in a braggartly sort of way - I'm no "model" by any means, but did okay in physical appearance dept.). I knew why police didn't give me tickets, and how it was so easy to get the next job or promotion (looks, intelligence, and confidence, opportunity; you need more than just looks to be truly, personally, successful, but it helps a lot).

I have felt sorry for certain men and women who find or think of themselves as ugly, because no one really is -- you just have to take care of yourself, dress nicely, and have a positive look on life. In general.

I don't think there is much difference between young lefties and young conservative women. There are cuties on both sides and in between. It's when women age where the difference becomes more apparent.

Anger is ugly.
Jealousy is ugly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (qCMvj)

70 A sweet disposition makes an average woman prettier. In contrast, a beautiful woman who is an entitled bitch often is off-putting.

Go to hell, oppressor.

Posted by: Strumpet McHarridan at August 05, 2015 02:03 PM (8ZskC)

71 "Who makes up these things for you?"

I'd guess Margaret Atwood.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:04 PM (zNxID)

72 Just ask a liberal woman to make you a sammwich - just watch how ugly they really can be.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at August 05, 2015 02:04 PM (DlmoZ)

73 It's even more basic than that -- being pretty and being conservative share similar causes.

Do you work hard in life? Do you believe you control your own fate (weight)? Are you generally a happy person? Do you like/value men?

All of these things make women both more attractive and more conservative. The fact that being conservative is also more compatible with being attractive is just incidental.

And it's not just women. Attractive men are even more likely to be Republican than attractive women.

Posted by: TallDave at August 05, 2015 02:04 PM (74ZYB)

74 What bullshit. The core of conservatism is individualism.

I think also that conservatism doesn't play the pretend games the Left does.

Yes, your friends where the lawyer wife makes all the money (why the hell do lawyers make money? sorry, another tangent) is just fine and works for them.

But it isn't common and if people organize their lives around emulating that, they'll be very unhappy.

The core of conservatism is recognizing that there is such a thing as "normal" and that being "not normal" is not a pejorative. In fact, it makes you cool.

Lefties are the ones who express their individuality by dressing like everybody else.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 02:05 PM (b65cm)

75 Ace, I fall back on manners, unless they are being sarcastic, in which case I say something sarcastic back. I am not sure relying on manners is a "pretty" answer, but it is a safe answer. And what FenelonSpoke said as well.

Posted by: Penfold at August 05, 2015 02:05 PM (Fbt5B)

76 You could argue that the conservative path is much
friendlier to conventionally attractive women than it is to those with less "mainstream" looks.



"with less "mainstream" looks", aka horse track looks.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:05 PM (vIf+g)

77 Perhaps at a NoVaMoMe, if someone were to perchance come up, shake your hand and say that they love your Blog, and your writing style, just accept those words as not so much a compliment, but as a true statement uttered by that person.

Maybe


If someone did that





at a meet-up.



Not saying that would ever happen.


But, if it were to.

In the future.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 02:05 PM (VPLuQ)

78 re 49: ahem

Posted by: Aunt Esther at August 05, 2015 02:05 PM (qSIlh)

79 Actually, there are quite attractive Democratic congresswomen such as myself.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at August 05, 2015 02:06 PM (y5bPZ)

80 Also,a lot of these leftist women put no effort into trying to look presentable. In fact, they actively rebel against it. Look at some of those rad fems and lesbians and tell me looking that bad (including clothes) can be done without putting in a lot of effort.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 05, 2015 02:06 PM (jDQi0)

81 >>>Teachers like me -- the other kids don't.
So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this. I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally.

Uh, just do what everyone else does in awkward (?) social interactions -- fake it.

"ace, I like your blog."
"Thanks! I really appreciate it. Do you ever drop in and comment in the comments?"

See. Normal. Plus, shows interest in the other person by asking them a semi open ended question instead of letting the conversation die out.

Social Interaction 101.

You're welcome.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (AkOaV)

82 "In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked. That is a deeply conservative idea."

What garbage. Liberals are so lost in their conceits and righteous misconceptions. They can't be but else, after all, or their world would fall apart from the storm of unleashed empiricism and inconvenient truth. My mother, a conservative woman and southerner, was an attractive and gracious exemplar of the female sex. But she didn't passively nurture her "prettiness" and "wait" for a husband, she pursued a number of challenging individual and professional pursuits, including writing and publishing three novels (with a major New York publisher), working as a part-time general contractor, restoring old homes, teaching art history while raising four children. She alone put to rout the entire smug liberal sexual paradigm.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (s/yC1)

83 "Do you work hard in life? Do you believe you control your own fate (weight)? Are you generally a happy person? Do you like/value men? "

AND

"Are you willing not to have everything? Are you ok with other people succeeding and doing well? Are you emotionally stable enough not to dissolve into neurotic tears and climb the barricades when something doesn't go your way?"

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (zNxID)

84 artisanal 'ette:

And I thought you were going to say jealousy leads to anger, Anger leads to hate and go all Yoda on us.

Posted by: Penfold at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (Fbt5B)

85 Only conservative women play Womens' Pro Beach Volleyball. It's true. They have to take a test.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (VcOqI)

86 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (kff5f)

87 When I'm complimented I wish they'd stop and look at someone else. I really don't like attention or compliments. At. All. Compliment everyone else and I am happy.

It is true though, that being attractive makes life easier in lots of little ways male or female. People tend to trust you more readily and tend to react more positively to you which smooths the path for any interaction. Or so I've observed with my buddies.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (39g3+)

88 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:07 PM (kff5f)

89 "And your cat. You've got Mr Frisky too.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 01:56 PM (kdS6q)

You leave Mr. Frisky out of this okay? Mr. Frisky didn't choose....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 05, 2015 02:08 PM (df+1i)

90 Jerry Clower on feminism; still relevant today:

https://youtu.be/IR63U7_Y7Ik

Posted by: Country Singer at August 05, 2015 02:08 PM (8hctH)

91 This deserves to be in the thread below but Barky just said it.

POTUS:"It's those hardliners chanting Death to America who have been most opposed to the deal...making common cause w/the Republican Caucus"

Yeah, those Episcopalians are just like the Jihadis.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 05, 2015 02:08 PM (XUKZU)

92 You know who the girls are who are the most attractive to guys? The slightly chubby, always fun and friendly girl that's cute, but not super hot. She's the one all the guys are happy to see and hang out with.

Yeah, Amy Schumer was making some statement about how she gets sex and she's 160 pounds.

I hate to tell her but it's only in NYC and Hollywood where a cute blonde at 160 pounds with a good rack doesn't get laid if she wants.

Also, people who are chubby tend to enjoy life in other ways as well.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 02:09 PM (b65cm)

93 I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally.


Most people don't. The ones who do are either very lucky, or sociopaths.

And yes, you should read a book or two on it, because every man and woman should know how. It's all about being a decent human being and living in a world full of other people. Remember, "Asshole" is not a valid alternative lifestyle.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 05, 2015 02:09 PM (OiH3z)

94 So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this.

How about, "Thank you. That's very kind."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)

95 I suspect it comes down to this:
at the commercial break:
the conservative woman says, "I'm going to get a soda, do you want something?"
The liberal woman says, "would you get me a soda?"
The liberated woman says, "I'm getting a spring water, do you want some Friskies?"

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 02:09 PM (qSIlh)

96 "making common cause w/the Republican Caucus"

What an asshole.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:09 PM (zNxID)

97 Candygram....

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 02:10 PM (87y4e)

98 In before "what movie is this?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:10 PM (kff5f)

99 Ace -- you are pretty.

And witty.



And wise.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 02:10 PM (Fety7)

100 25 >> This article really needs a picture of Rosa DeLauro.

jwest wants us to suffer. Seriously, that woman is the most naturally ugly woman in America. If she entered the ugliest dog competition, she'd win every year.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2015 02:10 PM (jPlFu)

101 The real inescapable poblem facing the feminists attempting to upend, erase or reverse "beauty standards" is that they are basing their entire worldview on the Marxist notion that everything in the human social realm is "constructed," and that there is no such thing as universally agreed-upon "beauty" - -and that if we simply change the cultue we change what counts as "beautiful."

Sorry, fat/ugly girls. The entire basis of you worldview is false.

Beauty standards are mostly hardwired into the human brain.

It's evolution at work. Men who over the millennia who liked chicks with big tits tended to have more surviving offspring (who inherited the preference for big tits) because the moms were better able to nurse their babies.

Men who likes chicks with wide hips and narrow waists tended to have more surviving offspring (which inherited their preferences) because the chicks did not die in childbirth with narrow pelvises.

Men who liked chicks with symmetrical faces tended to have more surviving offspring (who inherited a preference for symmetrical faces) because the greater the assymetry of a face, the greater the likelihood of genetic flaws in the mom affecting the the child.

Etc. etc. etc. for every "desireable" attribute.

Further proof that "beauty" is not just a cultural construct is that pre-verbal newborn babies tend to look longer and smile more at caregivers regarded by adults as being "attractive." Several studies proved this rigorously -- babies gaze at and smile at pretty nurses/mothers/caregivers, to a much greater degree than non-pretty caregivers.

The baby does not know of culture. It just knows what it likes, at a genetic instinctual level.

Then that baby -- and every single other baby since the dawn of humankind -- grows up to act the exact same way as an adult. Result: inescapable "beauty standards" around the world.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2015 02:11 PM (jBuUi)

102
If a chick says she likes your blog, I think it is etiquette to say "so you want to blow me?"

I could be wrong. I don't have a blog.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2015 02:11 PM (ODxAs)

103 Seriously, that woman is the most naturally ugly woman in America. If she entered the ugliest dog competition, she'd win every year.

Challenge. Accepted.

Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas- In a thong at August 05, 2015 02:11 PM (kff5f)

104 I'm really more of a dolphin, ma'am.

With less rapeyness!

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 02:11 PM (87y4e)

105 "Thus, they oppose the natural system of social sorting, and want to upend it, and make everyone forcibly 'equal,' and so forth."

Relax. I got this.

Posted by: Diana Moon Glampers, Handicapper General at August 05, 2015 02:12 PM (noWW6)

106 But what about conservative men?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:12 PM (VcOqI)

107 I don't have a blog.

With that advice it's probably a good thing. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:12 PM (OSs/l)

108
In which I make ace as uncomfortable as possible by means of a compliment.

Ace, you are actually brilliant as a writer. Among the phoned in bits of "I'll tack this to the wall" are several beautifully written posts per week (per day even, when you're on a roll) which contain insightful, original thought, expressed with biting original humor.

Seriously, there's a very smart 'ette I talk to all the time and we have both designated you a national treasure.

So there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 02:12 PM (JtwS4)

109 It's those hardliners chanting Death to America who have been most opposed to the deal

The guys who signed the deal are opposed to it?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:12 PM (39g3+)

110 Grace and charm are overrated anyway. We've all known elegant charming people who are also tedious intriguers.

Kindness, competence, and contentment. Those are the markers of real quality.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (zNxID)

111 ***"In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked."***


It's fine that Leftists view of conservatives is just a simple caricature, because damned if my opinion of Leftists hasn't similarly evolved.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (xSCb6)

112 Can we keep it, can we keep it, PLLLLeeezzzeee!!!

Posted by: Kids in the bathroom, washing the ugly dog at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (VPLuQ)

113 I actually don't know how to handle compliments gracefully because I'm still sort of baffled to even receive one.

I am baffled by the fact that I am loved by someone who finds me beautiful and deserving of devotion and who isn't a dog.

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (O7MnT)

114 You tell em' Rosa!

Posted by: Barbara Mikulski at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (y5bPZ)

115 So, what you're saying is that Mahani was a lib until she married Johnny Lingo?

Posted by: junior at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (3m3mw)

116 I suspect it comes down to this:
at the commercial break:
the conservative woman says, "I'm going to get a soda, do you want something?"
The liberal woman says, "would you get me a soda?"
The liberated woman says, "I'm getting a spring water, do you want some Friskies?"

-
Hillary emails an underling to tell her to ask and even lower underling to bring her a lemonade (with just a certain amount of joy juice in it).

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (XUKZU)

117 Seriously, there's a very smart 'ette I talk to all the time and we have both designated you a national treasure.

So there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch


I'm so very confused.

Posted by: Ace's Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (87y4e)

118 So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this.


Curtsey, then giggle seductively. They'll never bother you again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (8ZskC)

119 What about liberal men?

Posted by: Janet Reno at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (y5bPZ)

120 It's deceptively easy to accept a compliment.


You say "thank you."

It's like if a girl asks if you want a beejer.

You say "Yes."

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (Fety7)

121 So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this.


How about, "Thank you. That's very kind."




NOT, "Well, bless your heart".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (vIf+g)

122 Kira Davis is reading Jezebel so I don't have to, and let's note the underlying article is written by a woman absolutely crazed by gender roles.

How do people like this writer function in normal life, if they are frozen in place by something so mystifyingly uninteresting as gender roles? Seriously, just write about civility or research disease transmission or start a taxi business accepting dogs and drunk people or write some music.

Do something that might add to the human condition, instead of thinking all your days about a subject profoundly empty and directionless.

Posted by: PMTF at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (LISuA)

123 Maxine Waters is Aunt Esther.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (VcOqI)

124 I always think it is impossible for me to loathe Obama more and he somehow manages to make it happen.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (sPO3u)

125 By the way, this is part of the reason I'm brusque with strangers. I actually don't know how to handle compliments gracefully because I'm still sort of baffled to even receive one. I'm still thinking (as I think most people are thinking) with cerebral patterns formed from kindergarten to second grade.

stay humble

we love you too much
don't let it go to your head

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (qCMvj)

126 Jezebel were the ones that featured a full on freakout the
day the Huntress was picked, and they went down hill from there. as opposed to the passive aggressive snipingin some corner for smost of the last six years.

Posted by: admiral marcus at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (0u/CC)

127 Posted by: Kids in the bathroom, washing the ugly dog at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (VPLuQ)

Ugly, smelly, flea ridden and mangy dog.

Why are kids so attracted to Nature's cast offs?

It's maybe they're afraid they won't make the cut either?

I don't know but God, some of the ugly things they'll drag in.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (x3GpS)

128
All of this talk about the Ayatollah's suspicions being confirmed. You mean the "Death to America" part? Or the part where they call Obama or Earnest as violating the deal? Or the part where they say they will conduct their own inspections? Or the part where leaders from the Ayatollah's own leadership team say they hate America 100 times more now?
If only...if only Kerry and Obama (the 2nd and 3rd worst negotiators on the face of the planet, solidly behind Boehner), were as concerned about the suspicions and trust of those that are in the electorate.

Posted by: Hector at August 05, 2015 02:16 PM (MelgH)

129 So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this. I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally.

hmmm

you're probably hard to get to know, then
probably takes years...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:16 PM (qCMvj)

130 ***"Now, physical attractiveness is important to everyone, not just women -- ugly, fat dudes feel the sting of rejection and ostracism as acutely as women"***


You can really expand upon this point to include a whole range of other aspects of life for men: we get denied jobs and promotions; get fired from work; get dumped by wives; or generally screwed over in all sorts of life or social events.


The difference is that you don't usually hear us bitching about the Matriarchy or demanding the state step in and intervene on our behalf. We generally just suck it the fvck up and move on with our lives.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 02:16 PM (xSCb6)

131 Good looking liberal men? Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That's a start.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:16 PM (VcOqI)

132 Candygram....


Posted by: Penis Monster


lmfao

Serious you guys, you're going to get me fired with all this hilarity.

Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 05, 2015 02:17 PM (/Ho8c)

133 I think Judge Judy is a rightie...?her vibe on this issue speaks to me. Stuff like: "They don't keep me her 'cause I'm pretty dummy." Or the best: "Beauty fades, dumb is forevah!" This might seem LIV stuff to ya'll but I think she kicks butt stranded as she is facing the Titanic (that is this country) day in and out. Also, I know the awkward Ace, I know it well.

Posted by: rivahgurl at August 05, 2015 02:17 PM (YeHHx)

134 Watch what I do with this pogo stick!

Posted by: K at August 05, 2015 02:17 PM (/fh9i)

135 Ha ha, Jezebel puts 'pretty' in scare quotes, as if "pretty" women are actually not just pretty women that most guys think of as pretty because they are pretty.

Nope, its a cultural conspiracy to keep ugly womyn down.


heard from a dentist I know:

Dammit, I went hunting for a trophy wife, bagged her, and now Delta airlines wont transport her!

Posted by: Male Chauvanist Perfectionist at August 05, 2015 02:17 PM (yTnTP)

136 I always think it is impossible for me to loathe Obama more and he somehow manages to make it happen.
Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 02:15 PM (sPO3u)


he baits you, don't fall for it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (qCMvj)

137 121 So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this.


How about, "Thank you. That's very kind."

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:14 PM (vIf+g)

Well, I don't know. If I ran in to ace and said, "hey, I like your blog" and he said "Thank you. That is very kind." I'd think he was a little bit of an asshole.

Can't be mechanical about receiving compliments (like you get them all the time, and OF COURSE people will compliment you. See: Kardashian clan).

I don't know, you just need to read social cues.

Maybe ace is autistic.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (AkOaV)

138 For Ace:

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/07/15/how-to-accept-a-compliment-with-class/

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (OiH3z)

139 I bagged a hobo yesterday with a kind word and a bacon sandwich, but mostly with a _________.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (jPlFu)

140 I always thought the conservative women's inner beauty was reflected on the outside. And the liberal women's inner ugliness the same.

Posted by: Iblis at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (9221z)

141 >>>Grace and charm are overrated anyway. We've all known elegant charming people who are also tedious intriguers.


Hah, what a word there.

I read an article on how charm was a sort of vicious attribute, in the sense that it's artificial and, almost definitionally, employed for purposes of getting something.

Grace, on the other hand, has no downside.

And either way, I want that charm

Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (dciA+)

142 I saw Penis Monster open for the Sex Pistols in 1985 at the Agora.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 05, 2015 02:18 PM (Yrjee)

143 Letting me do that thing in your mouth makes you look much more attractive.

Posted by: Marmo, heteronormative penis monster of pallor at August 05, 2015 02:19 PM (QW+AD)

144 Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 02:16 PM (xSCb6)

Or come in one morning with a MAC-10 and get some payback.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:19 PM (x3GpS)

145 The difference is that you don't usually hear us bitching about the Matriarchy or demanding the state step in and intervene on our behalf. We generally just suck it the fvck up and



call a hooker.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:19 PM (vIf+g)

146 on saying thank you, I do (in person), but I say it with downcast eyes, and rushed, and sort of muttered.

The graceful way is to smile and say "Why thank you!" with (feigned) enthusiasm.

Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 05, 2015 02:19 PM (dciA+)

147 as far as compliments here--

(smiles, tilts head up)

Why, thank you!

Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (dciA+)

148 And this is also why women tend to be unsuccessful in management. They run the place like it's a high school clique.

I quit the company I worked for, because the manager had me put a note on her desk, every day, that I had set the alarm system when I left the office. I'd never missed setting the alarm, but for some reason, I had to prove that I did. I left and worked at Netflix for a year and went back after I found that she'd left the company.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (5HBd1)

149 We laugh at ace's "Penis Monster" formulation, but believe me when I tell you that IT'S REAL, I'VE SEEN IT, WITH MY OWN TWO EYES, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

The public health authorities in Scum Scamfrisco are always vexed by the fact that the local gay male population will still, even after the AIDS disaster, go out and anally screw random strangers at the drop of a hat, without protection or testing. Result? The nation's highest per capita venereal disease rate.

So, this being also one of the national epicenters of lame-ass liberal do-gooderism, the authorities concluded that more "outreach", that all purpose panacea, was needed.

Thus, at gay public gatherings in SF, they send out the Healthy Penis, a seven foot tall boner complete with balls, to dance around and hand out flyers and condoms. (You know, condoms are *so* hard to find.)

Since SF is also an epicenter of hallucinogenic drug use, you just know that some poor soul had to be tripping balls on acid or mushrooms, and having a hard time with the experience, and then wandered around a corner, to find this enormous erect johnson with a big goofy grin bearing down on them. Hilarious hijinx ensue.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (noWW6)

150 Ace lacks grace and charm? Well, fuck me runnin'. Kin ah giv ya uh lesson?

Posted by: maddogg at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (xWW96)

151
How do people like this [Jezebel] writer function in normal life, if they are frozen in place by something so mystifyingly uninteresting as gender roles?
Posted by: PMTF




In the real world, they wouldn't. So they created the government/academic/internet ecological niche where they could thrive.

Kinda like a coral reef built out of your money.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (kdS6q)

152 Re: Social graces, charm, accepting complements...

Would that it were as simple as reading a book. By all means, read a book, and practice, but the most important thing is to be around people who *do* this, and the most important time to do that is when you're very young (ace's "second grade" observation).

It's just harder to do with a book, or later in life, because you have layers of other behaviors stacked on your "second grade" ones.

It's like organization. It is a source of both sadness and humor watching an organized person trying to teach an unorganized person how to be organized. It's not impossible, but the person who invents a fairly reliable method of doing so and takes 1% of gross on the sales will rule the world in short order.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (bLnSU)

153 Netanyahu must be close to cardiac arrest.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (VcOqI)

154 "How do people like this writer function in normal life, if they are frozen in place"

Dostoyevsky has a parable about a mouse somewhere. The mouse inside his hole sees cheese in the kitchen. He sees no cat, and there is not cat, but there might be a cat for any n number of reasons.

Paralyzed by his imaginary fears, the mouse dies in his hole of hunger.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (zNxID)

155 Did most other people have lots of kids who liked them at school.? I didn't. Teachers tended to like me yes-because I was basically a good student and a pleasant person, but I only had a couple of friends through high school.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (OSs/l)

156 Curtsey, then giggle seductively. They'll never bother you again.

For extra points: rub your nipples and moan.

I don't know, you just need to read social cues.

Maybe ace is autistic.


You joke but the way they're redefining autism pretty much anyone that isn't totally comfortable and outgoing is being called that these days.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (39g3+)

157 "What bullshit. The core of conservatism is individualism. I'm cool with
each individual picking their own path. As a point of fact, many men and
women gravitate toward traditional roles because that's what they like,
which is how they became traditional in the first goddamned place,
right? I'm okay with that. I'm okay with the reverse too."

Traditional roles because for generations that is what makes societies work.

Posted by: Male Chauvanist Perfectionist at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (yTnTP)

158 Rosa DeLauro for the uninitiated:
http://tinyurl.com/oqwhfno
and for those who live for the double dare:
http://tinyurl.com/nvmkyxw

separated at birth..?

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (qSIlh)

159 102
If a chick says she likes your blog, I think it is etiquette to say "so you want to blow me?"

I could be wrong. I don't have a blog.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2015 02:11 PM (ODxAs)


This is pretty much a universal response.

I used it a few weeks ago when a woman complimented my two tone blue suede saddle shoes - and yes, she did want to blow me.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 02:22 PM (P/xrJ)

160 >>Oh, also, I think it's Rush Limbaugh who said, "feminism was invented to give ugly women a place in mainstream society" or something along those lines.

Yep. And a long time ago too. One of his Undeniable Truths of Life.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at August 05, 2015 02:23 PM (zhhGF)

161 The key to all of this is sincerity.

Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 05, 2015 02:24 PM (mf5HN)

162 Rosa DeLauro for the uninitiated: http://tinyurl.com/oqwhfno

Proof of the adage that everyone at age 50 has the face they deserve,

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:24 PM (O7MnT)

163 I bagged a hobo yesterday with a kind word and a bacon sandwich, but mostly with a _________.

I hear the Match Game music playing in my head now

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:24 PM (39g3+)

164 Body odor, hirsute armpits and short hair are not attractive, ladies. Also, resting bitch face, man-hatred, bitterness and a generally c*nty attitude will make you ugly inside and out.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (mx5oN)

165 The way we're drugging and marginalizing our borderline mentally ill, we're losing a lot of our creative thinkers.

Could it be that civilization collapses because they became too sane?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (x3GpS)

166 Rosa DeLauro kinda looks like Keith Richards.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (zNxID)

167 149 We laugh at ace's "Penis Monster" formulation, but believe me when I tell you that IT'S REAL, I'VE SEEN IT, WITH MY OWN TWO EYES, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

...

Thus, at gay public gatherings in SF, they send out the Healthy Penis, a seven foot tall boner complete with balls, to dance around and hand out flyers and condoms. (You know, condoms are *so* hard to find.)

Posted by: torquewrench


Predictably, I've taken a picture of it:

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_2_full/IMG_3934.JPG

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (jBuUi)

168 Judge Judy?

Supports same sex marriage.
Voted Obama in 08, refused to identify who she voted for in "12.


Gonna go with "Liberal Tendencies" on this one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (VPLuQ)

169 The core of conservatism is individualism.

The core of Conservatism is embracing what has been proven to work and rejecting what has been proven to fail.

Liberalism is the opposite.

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (O7MnT)

170 Limbaugh's Undeniable Truth of Life #24: "Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of American life."

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (evdj2)

171 #161 Bites lower lip. Eyes well up. Brief stutter.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (VcOqI)

172 Proof of the adage that everyone at age 50 has the face they deserve,
Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:24 PM (O7MnT)

Uh, oh.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:26 PM (x3GpS)

173 The Nash equilibrium -- If none of us hit on the prettiest girl, we can all get laid tonight.

Science -- It's all about getting laid.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2015 02:26 PM (jPlFu)

174 Slightly off topic - but not really. (Ugly liberal woman and all.) I can think of only one crime Hillary! could commit and not draw a skate out of jail free card; assassinating our glorious Precedent on live TV.

Kill and eat a baby? No problem. Vince Foster Obama? Wink and a nod. Give live nukes to Isis? Es muy Bueno.

Posted by: An Observation at August 05, 2015 02:26 PM (p2ji4)

175 Re: Social graces, charm, accepting complements...

Would that it were as simple as reading a book. By all means, read a book, and practice, but the most important thing is to be around people who *do* this, and the most important time to do that is when you're very young (ace's "second grade" observation).


All goes back to the Golden Rule. How do you want to be treated? Treat others the same way. Not hard to figure out. If you want to be treated nice, treat others nicely. And let them be the first to fvck up. Then, sweep the leg!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:26 PM (vIf+g)

176 Maxine Waters. The black Mick Jagger?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:26 PM (VcOqI)

177 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (VPLuQ)

She's a New Yawk Jew. She probably voted for DeBlasio.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (x3GpS)

178 Thank you for the new nic!

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (HstNY)

179 That's not "american conservatism" that's biology.

Which is why some really advanced-stage progtard colleges are establishing "feminist biology" departments, in which they will make science Less Troubling.

(I am not making this up. And I am looking forward to "feminist chemical engineering" - look for the mushroom cloud).

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (S+N7W)

180 Posted by: junior at August 05, 2015 02:13 PM (3m3mw)
=====
A big cheer for all the 10 cow chicks in the world

Posted by: fastfreefall at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (Ligm5)

181


that song is depressing...

I think most kids felt out of place, some just played the game better than others. Like now, as adults.

Build your shield by loving your family and friends.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (qCMvj)

182 Teachers like me -- the other kids don't.

So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say "I like your blog," I still don't really know the right, "pretty" way to handle this. I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally.



------



Ace is Sheldon Cooper! Just remember to avoid talking to the children when you have to find the book you nee in the children's section.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (z/Ubi)

183 162 Rosa DeLauro for the uninitiated: http://tinyurl.com/oqwhfno


That's the best picture of her I've ever seen.

The hair and makeup people must have worked for hours, let alone the photoshop crew.

I do believe maddog would hit that.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (P/xrJ)

184 Now, physical attractiveness is important to everyone, not just women -- ugly, fat dudes feel the sting of rejection and ostracism as acutely as women (take it from one who knows)

Ace, I've met you. You are neither ugly nor fat. You're actually a good-looking guy and fairly trim.

But, take it from one who knows - a bad self___ is the most crippling thing imaginable.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (zF6Iw)

185 Posted by: Penis Monster

Such a dildo

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (sgrzZ)

186 Proof of the adage that everyone at age 50 has the face they deserve,
Posted by: V the K


Uh, oh.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger



FML.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (vIf+g)

187 How can you tell a healthy penis from an unhealthy one?

*softball floated over the hoard*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (x3GpS)

188 nice riff, Ace (and your blog is swell, too). This 'phenomenon' of conservative wymyn being more attractive than shrill feminazis will only increase as the LIVs continue to be led by pop culture, aka the "the shallowening"...

Posted by: the Butcher at August 05, 2015 02:29 PM (fUjxW)

189 Just to restore balance to the force:

http://tinyurl.com/q2zmblt

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:29 PM (zNxID)

190 That's not a woman.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 02:29 PM (zyIlW)

191 Barbara Mikulski. There, I said it.

Posted by: Shallow HAl 9000 at August 05, 2015 02:30 PM (VcOqI)

192 I don't know what the percentage of NY Jews who voted for Obama was, but it was high. I wouldn't have expected Judge Judy to have voted for anyone else. Maybe she wised up the second time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:30 PM (OSs/l)

193 Total sidenote, but this post,


Hilarious hijinx ensue.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (noWW6)



followed by this one,


For extra points: rub your nipples and moan.


Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (39g3+)


quite literally left me collapsed on the floor, gasping for air.

Thanks for the laugh, folks. XD



Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 05, 2015 02:30 PM (6JL3d)

194 My problem growing up was believing I was really as attractive as people made out. It's a curse I tells ya.

Posted by: Grump928(c) waxes moo moo at August 05, 2015 02:30 PM (evdj2)

195 I was moved by the post to check Janis Ian's Wikipedia page. Among the things she claims:

- A radio station in Atlanta was burned down for playing one of her songs about an interracial romance.

I tried to Google check this, but while the legend has been repeated many times, there doesn't seem to be any identification of the actual station this happened to.

Is this more leftist mythmaking?

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:31 PM (O7MnT)

196 waxes moo moop


Can I take that back?

Posted by: Grump928(c) Phrasing! at August 05, 2015 02:31 PM (evdj2)

197 Listen, Ace, I'm not gay but I'd be glad to give you beefy, mustachioed loving because you have a beautiful mind and soul, and if there's one thing that can be said about your Head Football Coach, Howard Schnellenberger, it's that he fears no new adventure.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at August 05, 2015 02:32 PM (fMSaY)

198 "Broad generalities." I see what you did there.

Posted by: Bud Norton at August 05, 2015 02:32 PM (6cOMd)

199
Remember, the big boobed gal that ace likes so much from Jezebel and Feminazisting is now an editor of Cosmo, I shite you not.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 05, 2015 02:32 PM (iQIUe)

200 I think that conservative women (whatever that means) tend to strive for a caucasian, monied, traditional (whatever that means) look. I can think of a lot of cultures/people with comparatively traditional values who do not think a rail-thin, white, bleach-blonde, neocon wearing expensive jewels and a skirt would be pretty.

And, no, they are NOT prettier. THEY fit some racist, classist '50s American mainstream standard that was never actually real except for on TV and in ads.

Posted by: Starflower at August 05, 2015 02:32 PM (fWAjv)

201 Also, she claims Bill Cosby accused her of being a lesbian and getting blacklisted from TV.

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:32 PM (O7MnT)

202
Penis Monster?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!




But of course:

Fred Schneider - Monster

http://tinyurl.com/psbza4y

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (kdS6q)

203 162 Rosa DeLauro for the uninitiated: http://tinyurl.com/oqwhfno

I saw something like that once staring back at me from under the wood pile.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (x3GpS)

204 #195 I don't think anyone burned anything down for playing "Brother Louie."

Posted by: Shallow HAl 9000 at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (VcOqI)

205 I can think of a lot of cultures/people with comparatively traditional values who do not think a rail-thin, white, bleach-blonde, neocon wearing expensive jewels and a skirt would be pretty.


And they would be wrong.

Posted by: Grump928(c) Phrasing! at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (evdj2)

206
Just to restore balance to the force:

http://tinyurl.com/q2zmblt


Oh dear lord, I am a complete sucker for retro 70s sexiness and that is done perfectly. Thank you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (JtwS4)

207

And thus, there is a natural sort of gravitational pull on women who are
not physically attractive to the Outers party, the party that wants to
throw out standard conventions of physical beauty and make everyone
"equal" in this dimension, somehow.

Meanwhile, more attractive women are all saying the same thing: F*** that noise.





Speaking as a not-terribly-attractive woman, I'm happy as fcuk to not be a feminist, and I will viciously harangue any dumb bitch (male or female) who would dare assume I'm one just b/c I'm not Barbie cute.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (4df7R)

208 Hey I forgot about my other really attractive Liberal friends... Think Supreme Court and Bill Clinton's cabinet. I just know Megyn Kelly is jealous of all of them.

Posted by: Barbra Mikulski at August 05, 2015 02:33 PM (AQYnQ)

209 And this is also why women tend to be unsuccessful in management. They run the place like it's a high school clique.

I quit the company I worked for, because the manager had me put a note on her desk, every day, that I had set the alarm system when I left the office. I'd never missed setting the alarm, but for some reason, I had to prove that I did. I left and worked at Netflix for a year and went back after I found that she'd left the company.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 05, 2015 02:20 PM (5HBd1)


meh

she was a jerk

many women make great managers and many men suck at managing

did she "leave" or was she pushed out...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:34 PM (qCMvj)

210 So does The Healthy Dick have a name, or do the denizens of SF call it Mr. Penis or just Dick?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 02:34 PM (zyIlW)

211 I've been in bare knuckles negotiations with my wife today. Brutal, I say but, I won (I think)(maybe) so I'm allowed to get a new toy. A Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag. I'm sure I pay and some more in the end somehow.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 02:34 PM (sgrzZ)

212 I am...doll parts...bad skin...doll heart.

Posted by: Courtney Love at August 05, 2015 02:35 PM (VcOqI)

213 207 BTW you sliced like a fuckin hammer on Twitter about the Iran deal.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 02:35 PM (sPO3u)

214 Gawd I always hated that damn interminable Janis Ian pity party whine-fest.

The singer-songwriter era sucked bags of dicks.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 02:36 PM (7ObY1)

215 @168 Haven't been here long enough to know but is it taboo to support same sex marriage? I don't give a hoot about. Also everyone in lala land voted for the HIM in '08, I mean she's got to work with these folks. Her rhetoric (word of the week!) is all about work, hard work, more hard work. And not lying. I'll grant she might be a RINO, but in this media landscape, I'll take it.

Posted by: rivahgurl at August 05, 2015 02:36 PM (YeHHx)

216 I wouldn't say Jeane Kirkpatrick was a looker, but she was a smart broad.

Some of this is self-selection, no doubt. And the result of herd mentality as to which individuals become prominent.

Posted by: John F. Kerry at August 05, 2015 02:36 PM (oVJmc)

217 "Which is why some really advanced-stage progtard colleges are establishing 'feminist biology' departments, in which they will make science Less Troubling."

From the files of Wymyn's Inclusive Caring Progressive Science, a couple of years ago, the postmodernist deconstructionist feminist scholar Luce Irigaray concluded that Einstein's formulation of E=mc^2 needed to be banned as a "sexed equation".

Because it "privileges" one speed, _c_, the speed of light, above all other speeds in the universe in its physical importance. Obviously a product of arrogant patriarchalist phallocentric thinking!

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 02:36 PM (noWW6)

218 I've been in bare knuckles negotiations with my wife today. Brutal, I say but, I won (I think)(maybe) so I'm allowed to get a new toy. A Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag. I'm sure I pay and some more in the end somehow.

Tenthette has had 3 instances in the last couple weeks where she wished she'd had a gun. So maybe in the near future I can get her to take a CHL course and start carrying.

Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas- In a thong at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (kff5f)

219 I learned the truth at 17...
That love was meant for beauty queens...
And high school girls with clear skinned smiles...
Who married young and then retired...

For some reason, this song assaulted my inner mind while I read the first few paragraphs.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (HXLb4)

220 211
I've been in bare knuckles negotiations with my wife today. Brutal, I
say but, I won (I think)(maybe) so I'm allowed to get a new toy. A Ruger
Blackhawk 44 mag. I'm sure I pay and some more in the end somehow.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 02:34 PM (sgrzZ)

I'm all for modern guns and all, (though at this point, I don't know whether a 1911 should classify as modern) but there's something about having an old-style revolver that just feels right.

Have fun with that gun. o.0 Oldschool magnums are the best.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (6JL3d)

221 9 The Weather Channel gals give me a warm front.

Jen Carfagno sure gives me a warm front.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (7ObY1)

222 I've been stalking MWR and I can tell you she's not bad at all.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (Fety7)

223 Aw we got an angry feminist lefty to drop by. Everyone make her feel welcome and give her some complimentary souvenir ace ewok fur.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (39g3+)

224 ***"You joke but the way they're redefining autism pretty much anyone that isn't totally comfortable and outgoing is being called that these days."***


Reminds me of my sister-in-law who self-diagnosed her son with Aspergers. "No, sweetie, you just never corrected your son's assholish behavior when he was little and now that's just who he is."


The number of mothers who seem to want their children in the competitive dysfunction spectrum is eclipsed only by the number of hipsters who place themselves there.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 02:37 PM (xSCb6)

225 Ace, I've met you. You are neither ugly nor fat. You're actually a good-looking guy and fairly trim.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 05, 2015 02:28 PM (zF6Iw)



hmmmm
Ace is lying to us?

no matter
it's the words and the mind that are attractive and sexy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:38 PM (qCMvj)

226 "So does The Healthy Dick have a name, or do the denizens of SF call it Mr. Penis or just Dick?"

The sheltered out of town friend whom I was squiring around the city referred to it as Oh My God What In The World Is That.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 02:38 PM (noWW6)

227 Off nasty old zombie sock!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:38 PM (kff5f)

228 Hmm. I don't know why that formatting fucked up.

I meant to say that a bad self image is the most crippling thing imaginable. And believe me, I know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 05, 2015 02:38 PM (zF6Iw)

229 The singer-songwriter era sucked bags of dicks.

Like disco it wasn't all horrific. Gordon Lightfoot's later stuff was quite good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:39 PM (39g3+)

230 Janis Ian did not write this---it's from the ....classic........Brother Louie:

She was black as the night

Louie was whiter than white

Danger, danger when you taste brown sugar

Posted by: Courtney Love at August 05, 2015 02:39 PM (VcOqI)

231
"I bagged a hobo yesterday with a kind word and a bacon sandwich, but mostly with a _________.

I hear the Match Game music playing in my head now"


A pipe?

Posted by: Zombie Charles Nelson Reilly at August 05, 2015 02:39 PM (9kqVb)

232
When receiving faint praise, always return with feint praise.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk - etiquette emeritus at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (ODxAs)

233 Tenthette has had 3 instances in the last couple weeks where she wished she'd had a gun. So maybe in the near future I can get her to take a CHL course and start carrying.



Bass Pro Shops should have classes.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (vIf+g)

234 I've been in bare knuckles negotiations with my wife today. Brutal, I say but, I won (I think)(maybe) so I'm allowed to get a new toy. A Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag. I'm sure I pay and some more in the end somehow.

I get the Jericho Baby Eagle, the Mister gets the Vitamix blender. They cost about the same. That's how we work things out.

Posted by: V the K at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (O7MnT)

235 Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag. I'm sure I pay and some more in the end somehow.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 02:34 PM (sgrzZ)
---------------------------

The Bisley Hunter version has been eyeballing my wallet.

Posted by: irright at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (8GKDa)

236 Like disco it wasn't all horrific. Gordon Lightfoot's later stuff was quite good.

I'll give you Gordon Lightfoot. And Warren Zevon was another one that kicked ass.

I was thinking more along the lines of James F'ing Taylor and his ilk.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (7ObY1)

237 You joke but the way they're redefining autism pretty much anyone that isn't totally comfortable and outgoing is being called that these days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (39g3+)

True. Being introverted and somewhat avoidant can put you on the spectrum now. I'm not autistic, I just don't like crowds of people, and find superficial social interaction to be exhausting.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (mx5oN)

238 People often notice, as do I, that ethnic mixes are some beautiful people, that is, white and black, white and Asian, white and Islander etc, make for some gorgeous people. This makes me wonder if they don't appear prettier to me because they contain both exotic features, and my genetic markers. Do they look better because they look more like me?

Posted by: Grump928(c) Phrasing! at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (evdj2)

239 torquewrench,

For a moment, I read that as "squirting around the city."

But yeah, "WTF is that??" would be a natural response.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (zyIlW)

240 177 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 02:25 PM (VPLuQ)

She's a New Yawk Jew. She probably voted for DeBlasio.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:27 PM (x3GpS)

She lives in FL and has houses in CT and CA. She also routinely denounces people on her show for being on the dole.

She also has spoken in very libertarian Terms in the past in regards to the role of govt.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (AkOaV)

241 tend to strive for a caucasian...look

What the heck does that even mean?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (OSs/l)

242 When I went to marry, I looked for a smart woman, not necessarily a pretty woman. I go for the bookish types.
To quote Ron White, "Good looks, you can buy that, but, you can't fix stupid."

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (JgC5a)

243 Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (vIf+g)

Yeah, so does the gun range I normally go to. The issue is getting her to connect the dots. I'm trying to avoid the emotional blackmail angle (she had the kids with her at least one of those 3 times), so it's harder than it might be.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (kff5f)

244 I don't know if she left or was pushed out. I did talk to the owner about her, before I left and he was of the opinion that she just needed some training in how to be a manager. But she managed to drive off the other women working there and the guy she liked most turned out to be a blowhard. I do know that she did not move into another management position.

It's not the first time I've run into that attitude with women bosses.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (5HBd1)

245 Men were just intimidated by my intellect.

Posted by: Zombie Andrea Dworkin at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (9kqVb)

246 Grump928,

For most of us, yeah, us mutts do make some good-looking babies.

Then again, I've seen a few that the mixture didn't turn out so pretty...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 02:42 PM (zyIlW)

247 For a moment, I read that as "squirting around the city."

So... in San Francisco, then?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:42 PM (kff5f)

248 I always thought that whoever wrote that song would eventually commit suicide. I swear.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:42 PM (qCMvj)

249 Hah......I remember all the time I watched the Match Game.

I hated it. Charles Nelson Reilly was funny tho.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 02:43 PM (Fety7)

250 The Bisley Hunter version has been eyeballing my wallet.


Posted by: irright at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (8GKDa)

I'm going to have to look for western style holsters so I can play Cowboy and Aliens.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 02:43 PM (sgrzZ)

251 #238 See Carre Otis in Wild Orchid. Too hot to handle.

Posted by: Courtney Love at August 05, 2015 02:43 PM (VcOqI)

252 This makes me wonder if they don't appear prettier to me because they contain both exotic features, and my genetic markers.

Its because there is such a thing as absolute, objective beauty and the closer you get to that the more beautiful you become.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:43 PM (39g3+)

253 Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (AkOaV)

Unless you're peeking in the booth, you can never be sure how someone votes.

Remember; she's in the Infotainment Industry. Lying believably is a basic skill.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (x3GpS)

254 Leftism is a psychosomatic mental disorder. I know a girl who was Vicki secret hot at 20... spitting image of laetitia casta. Now in her 30 s, she looks like the stereotypical androgynous anthropology professor. ... because she is.

Posted by: A.G. at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (fef5a)

255 213
207 BTW you sliced like a fuckin hammer on Twitter about the Iran deal.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2015 02:35 PM (sPO3u)


Awww, thanks, steevy!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (4df7R)

256 Since SF is also an epicenter of hallucinogenic drug use, you just know
that some poor soul had to be tripping balls on acid or mushrooms, and
having a hard time with the experience, and then wandered around a
corner, to find this enormous erect johnson with a big goofy grin
bearing down on them. Hilarious hijinx ensue.


So there I am, just doing my job handing out healthy sex tip flyers and condoms, when this dude walks around the corner, freezes in place and starts screaming at the top of his lungs, "Stay away from my butthole!"

Posted by: Penis Monster at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (4WhSY)

257 Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (mx5oN)

I suspect that describes many of us here.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (GDulk)

258 In what alternative universe do women "sit back and wait to be picked"? So much of the nonsense out there today is written by people who struggle mightily to understand the basic facts of life and yet are dying to share with us their penetrating insights.

Posted by: Rob in Mass at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (T4Rf8)

259
"Remember, the big boobed gal that ace likes so much from Jezebel and Feminazisting is now an editor of Cosmo, I shite you not."

Jill Filipovic? She's toally vile, butshe is cute.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 05, 2015 02:45 PM (9kqVb)

260
Rosa DeLauro for the uninitiated: http://tinyurl.com/oqwhfno


==============

I'd hit it.....


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 05, 2015 02:45 PM (HSmrB)

261 Posted by: Zombie Andrea Dworkin at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (9kqVb)

the Hair and the 3" clitoris helped though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:45 PM (x3GpS)

262 I'm not autistic, I just don't like crowds of people, and find superficial social interaction to be exhausting.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (mx5oN)

I think you are on the normal spectrum.

Posted by: rebel flounder at August 05, 2015 02:46 PM (Vf5rR)

263 248 I always thought that whoever wrote that song would eventually commit suicide. I swear.


She became a Lez instead.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 02:46 PM (7ObY1)

264 Also,a lot of these leftist women put no effort into trying to look presentable. In fact, they actively rebel against it. Look at some of those rad fems and lesbians and tell me looking that bad (including clothes) can be done without putting in a lot of effort.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 05, 2015 02:06 PM (jDQi0)


It was weird when I first saw Ellen DeGeneres and even Melissa Etheridge put on makeup and dress up. They were always such "tomboys."

It doesn't take much effort to "put some effort into it." You feel good when you take care of yourself.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:46 PM (qCMvj)

265 I saw Three Inch Clit open for Frank Zappa at Barneys in Piscataway .

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 02:47 PM (Fety7)

266 For most of us, yeah, us mutts do make some good-looking babies.

Then again, I've seen a few that the mixture didn't turn out so pretty...



Bing "People of Wal Mart"

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:47 PM (vIf+g)

267
If someone says "you're fat and ugly, but I like your blog", the proper response is "you would look really good falling into that manhole."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk - etiquette emeritus at August 05, 2015 02:47 PM (ODxAs)

268 'Penis Monster' was The Cure's 2nd Best Album.

Posted by: Garrett at August 05, 2015 02:48 PM (2IEVZ)

269 Unless you're peeking in the booth, you can never be sure how someone votes.

Remember; she's in the Infotainment Industry. Lying believably is a basic skill.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 05, 2015 02:44 PM (x3GpS)


Unless that someone is my mother.
MWR'S MOM: (loudly, from the booth next to MWR's) "MWR! Who is it I'm supposed to vote for?"MWR: (hissing) "Mom! Shhhhh!"MWR'S MOM: "I don't recognize this name. Is this the person I'm supposed to vote for?"
MWR: (trying to fold up on herself like a retractable ruler) "Just vote for anyone with an R next to their name."MWR'S MOM: "Righty-O!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:48 PM (4df7R)

270 Posted by: Thor's feather duster at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (JgC5a)

My mother often jokes that there is no such thing as an ugly woman, just a broke one.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 05, 2015 02:49 PM (Z3HgI)

271
I never used my looks to gain advantage over a plain Jane liberal for the purpose of working as a world class model. Oh by the way, I'm rich and have my pick of men, cut would never choose a metro-sexual liberal girly-boy.

Posted by: Kate Upton at August 05, 2015 02:49 PM (OiFtZ)

272 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:48 PM (4df7R)

Tenthette and I write them down ahead of time.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)

273 Okay, let's try that again with (hopefully) fixed formatting.


Unless that someone is my mother.


MWR'S MOM: (loudly, from the booth
next to MWR's) "MWR! Who is it I'm supposed to vote for?"


MWR: (hissing)
"Mom! Shhhhh!"



MWR'S MOM: "I don't recognize this name. Is this the
person I'm supposed to vote for?"



MWR: (trying to fold up on herself
like a retractable ruler) "Just vote for anyone with an R next to their
name."



MWR'S MOM: "Righty-O!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (4df7R)

274 We like the sidewalk tables at Café Felix in Ann Arbor just so we can watch the parade of liberal women who must work at looking unfortunate.

Posted by: jwest at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (P/xrJ)

275 "I just don't like crowds of people, and find superficial social interaction to be exhausting.
"


Same here.

Posted by: irright at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (8GKDa)

276 This post reminded me of how all the feminist Riot Grrrl bands in the 90s always had the prettiest girl in the band on lead vocals, while the androgynous, mustached girl would do occasional Flava Flav type shout outs like "Hey!" and "Alright!".

Posted by: reform highlander at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (jCH/T)

277 >>> So maybe in the near future I can get her to take a CHL course and start carrying.

"Bass Pro Shops should have classes."

How frequently is she threatened by fish?

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (noWW6)

278 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:50 PM (4df7R)

Formatting is for closers.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (kff5f)

279 Bing "People of Wal Mart"
Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 02:47 PM (vIf+g)


I think a lot of that is just an absolute lack of self-respect and impulse control.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (WIIRD)

280 This makes me reflect on my similar second grade experiences and the adult difficulties they engendered. While I think using books to try to develop social skills now is good, I think the problem needs to be attacked earlier.

Perhaps the horde could collaborate on a manuscript titled "What is Best in Life? Teaching your Introverted Child to Crush their Enemies".

Posted by: Glen at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (1x4u/)

281 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:48 PM (4df7R)

Does she still have a British accent too? That would certainly add to the effect.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (GDulk)

282 Perhaps the horde could collaborate on a manuscript titled "What is Best in Life? Teaching your Introverted Child to Crush their Enemies".

Posted by: Glen at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (1x4u/)


Chapter 1- Crossbows vs Longbows and Other Conversation Starters.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:52 PM (kff5f)

283 Good post, Ace. You should take the rest of the day off.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 05, 2015 02:52 PM (pJeRn)

284 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (WIIRD)

So... college?

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 05, 2015 02:52 PM (Z3HgI)

285 ***"Now, physical attractiveness is important to everyone, not just
women -- ugly, fat dudes feel the sting of rejection and ostracism as
acutely as women"***


Its true.


Posted by: Jebie! the Hutt at August 05, 2015 02:53 PM (p2ji4)

286

If you don't feel pretty or social, fake it

Act like someone who is

You might enjoy it

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

287 Funny to see articles like this, that they don't *actually believe* the body-positive stuff they normally foist on their readers. Beauty at any weight, etc.

Body-positivity might be uplifting for an ugly, fat person's self-esteem, but it isn't going to increase the number of dates they get, and everyone knows it.

If everything is called beautiful then the word becomes meaningless.

Posted by: fb at August 05, 2015 02:53 PM (wjd4o)

288
Sandra Bullock (and makeup artists) did a good job of making her look all Lesbi and Tom Boy in Miss Congeniality except in the workout room she looked pretty hawt in those tight pants beating up that dude.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk - etiquette emeritus at August 05, 2015 02:54 PM (ODxAs)

289 why? because GOP attracts married women. women who could get a man

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 05, 2015 02:54 PM (664w+)

290 Ace,
As a woman I'm surprised to hear you don't receive a lot of flirting/compliments from hot girls. Your intelligence is very sexy. Maybe you're not seeing it throught the shades of a nerdy youth, but trust me, you're hot.

Posted by: WowPromo at August 05, 2015 02:54 PM (4nKQX)

291 People who are having a good time are much more attractive.

Posted by: irright at August 05, 2015 02:55 PM (8GKDa)

292 Ugly on the inside means ugly on the outside.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 02:55 PM (rfjjV)

293 Btw. Nurturing isn't passive. And it's hard work

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 02:55 PM (zOTsN)

294
"This post reminded me of how all the feminist Riot Grrrl bands in the 90s always had the prettiest girl in the band on lead vocals, while the androgynous, mustached girl would do occasional Flava Flav type shout outs like "Hey!" and "Alright!"."


More 80's than 90's, but every guy I knew had a crush on Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles. She was hot. The others were dogs as I recall.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 05, 2015 02:56 PM (9kqVb)

295
"Coiffuring Your Vag to Attract Pajama Boy!"

-Lena Dunham

Posted by: Random House at August 05, 2015 02:56 PM (OiFtZ)

296 284 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (WIIRD)

So... college?
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 05, 2015 02:52 PM (Z3HgI)


Possibly.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 05, 2015 02:56 PM (WIIRD)

297 "Intelligence is sexy," non-Hollywood nerds *hear* that a lot, but don't *see* it happen.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 05, 2015 02:57 PM (bLnSU)

298 >>"I just don't like crowds of people


This.

Posted by: Garrett at August 05, 2015 02:57 PM (2IEVZ)

299 Ace,
As a woman I'm surprised to hear you don't receive a lot of flirting/compliments from hot girls. Your intelligence is very sexy. Maybe you're not seeing it throught the shades of a nerdy youth, but trust me, you're hot.
Posted by: WowPromo at August 05, 2015 02:54 PM (4nKQX)


It's difficult for many to write well AND verbally communicate well. You're usually stronger in one than the other, but both can be strengthened.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:57 PM (qCMvj)

300 "Intelligence is sexy," non-Hollywood nerds *hear* that a lot, but don't *see* it happen.

This.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 02:57 PM (kff5f)

301 Does she still have a British accent too? That would certainly add to the effect.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 02:51 PM (GDulk)


She does. It's faint most of the time, but when she's a bit put out or confused it tends to manifest more strongly. It's simultaneously mortifying and hilarious.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 02:58 PM (4df7R)

302 Ace you need to read You're Too Kind, by Richard Stengal.

Posted by: 1894fg at August 05, 2015 02:58 PM (JT2ZF)

303

Maybe we all just need more beauty naps.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 02:59 PM (qCMvj)

304 286

If you don't feel pretty or social, fake it

Act like someone who is

You might enjoy it
Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

Not so much, no. When I say I find superficial social interaction exhausting, I'm not kidding. I'm not at all shy - which may seem like a contradiction - but the whole working a room talking about pointless shit with people I don't know thing is unpleasant and tiring.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:59 PM (mx5oN)

305 FFS...

Pope Francis Invites Oprah, Ari Emanuel to the Vatican

http://preview.tinyurl.com/o3x288k

Posted by: Bring back Benedict XVI at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (7YlUk)

306 290 Ace,
As a woman I'm surprised to hear you don't receive a lot of flirting/compliments from hot girls. Your intelligence is very sexy. Maybe you're not seeing it throught the shades of a nerdy youth, but trust me, you're hot.
Posted by: WowPromo at August 05, 2015 02:54 PM (4nKQX)

Haha oh please!

My entire life I've always heard that. Even now, my girlfriends friends say, "ohmygod I wish I could meet a guy like your boyfriend! He's so smart and funny"

Yet when I was single? Yeah, "smart and funny" didn't seem to be the top criteria for the ladies.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)

307
If you don't feel pretty or social, fake it



Act like someone who is



You might enjoy it

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 02:53 PM (zOTsN)


I can do this to an extent, but after a while I just need to get away. I'm an introvert, so I can handle social gatherings as long as I have plenty of recuperative time afterward. It's exhausting.


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (4df7R)

308 >>. Your intelligence is very sexy. Maybe you're not seeing it throught the shades of a nerdy youth, but trust me, you're hot.



Well, yeah.

He's covered in fur and it's Summer.

Posted by: Garrett at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (2IEVZ)

309 I can do this to an extent, but after a while I just need to get away. I'm an introvert, so I can handle social gatherings as long as I have plenty of recuperative time afterward. It's exhausting.


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (4df7R)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (mx5oN)

310 I met my husband during the Gulf War I. He talked about the sculptor Rodin and the film Camille Claudel while the rest were "shooting their watches". So smart. Unbelievably sexy

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (zOTsN)

311 Posted by: Bring back Benedict XVI at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (7YlUk)

Rahms brother? The guy the Ari character from Entourage was based on?

...Why?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (AkOaV)

312 I'm skipping all the comments because it's just tedious reading over and over and over that I'm worth than than worthless because I'm ugly, but I found this really interesting.
http://is.gd/pCRi01

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (/kI1Q)

313
Yet when I was single? Yeah, "smart and funny" didn't seem to be the top criteria for the ladies.




Posted by: mynewhandle

During my dating life, the question was is he packin'?

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at August 05, 2015 03:02 PM (OiFtZ)

314 while the rest were "shooting their watches"

Why destroy perfectly good timepieces?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:02 PM (mx5oN)

315 Maybe this may be a bit off topics , but you can have identical twin women who are both considered pretty but overweight and depending how the act, I can find one physically ugly and the other physically attractive.

Specifically if one is always complaining about her weight but stuffs her face every chance she gets and never bothers to workout , my mind makes me see ugly. If on the other hand the other puts in an effort to watch what she eats and exercises and is confident in herself , I see pretty.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (rfjjV)

316 By the way, this is part of the reason I'm brusque with strangers. I
actually don't know how to handle compliments gracefully because I'm
still sort of baffled to even receive one.


Brother from another mother.

Can't handle compliments. Blew off girls right and left in school (and after) because I'm (still) utterly baffled that any of them would want to be around me.

Posted by: John F. Kerry at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (oVJmc)

317
Remember, beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.

And feminism, at its core, is very, very ugly. To paraphrase some dead white guy: if you stare into feminism long enough, feminism stares into you.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (1hM1d)

318 All the women complimenting Ace have now made him feel like he needs to hide under his furniture for a while. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (OSs/l)

319 Etiquette in Society, in Business, in Politics and at Home

Emily Post

http://www.bartleby.com/95/

Posted by: Humongous Ears at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (7wyDO)

320 Two Words: Suzi Quatro.

Posted by: Grump928(c) Phrasing! at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (evdj2)

321 Idiot brahmin sock off.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (oVJmc)

322 Pretty girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace and go in style.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (b65cm)

323 During my dating life, the question was is he packin'?

During my it was do you have a car?

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (sgrzZ)

324 Not so much, no. When I say I find superficial social interaction exhausting, I'm not kidding. I'm not at all shy - which may seem like a contradiction - but the whole working a room talking about pointless shit with people I don't know thing is unpleasant and tiring.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:59 PM (mx5oN)


Same here. And boring. Mostly boring.

I usually just drink, stay quiet and watch the crowd. I'd rather listen and learn. My husband can do the talking for me.

If I have to talk, I ask them questions about themselves and then sit back and let them talk about themselves. Works pretty well.

But, like me, hubby doesn't like hanging around parties too long, we leave early, get in, get out as quickly as possible.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (qCMvj)

325 Liberal women are ugly on the inside and it shows on the outside.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (0LHZx)

326 As a woman I'm surprised to hear you don't receive a lot of flirting/compliments from hot girls. Your intelligence is very sexy.

Total bullshit.

The only women who find intelligence sexy are those who are happily married to dumb guys.

Women will never admit to themselves what they really find appealing.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 03:04 PM (b65cm)

327
I'm going to do my best Adam Carolla here and predict that Ace has a very successful or popular older sibling.
Well???

Posted by: MAx at August 05, 2015 03:04 PM (LAliD)

328 Haha oh please!



My entire life I've always heard that. Even now, my girlfriends
friends say, "ohmygod I wish I could meet a guy like your boyfriend!
He's so smart and funny"



Yet when I was single? Yeah, "smart and funny" didn't seem to be the top criteria for the ladies.



Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)


See, the thing is, yes, attractiveness IS important to women. But for a lot of women - and I can only really speak to those I know personally - the attractiveness or lack thereof can be fairly easily overcome by a man's personality and charm. If a man is attractive and a complete douche or bore, women might hang around b/c he's hot. But if a guy's less attractive but very charming/funny/kind, the woman is much more inclined to stay with him. It's much more palatable to sustain a relationship with someone you like to be around than it is to sustain a relationship with someone you're just flaunting as eye candy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (4df7R)

329 All the women complimenting Ace have now made him feel like he needs to hide under his furniture for a while. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (OSs/l)


I'm sure he's just laughing at all of us, for falling for it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (qCMvj)

330 "Pope"

and David Geffen, to talk about improving the depiction of the Church in Hollywood media.

Sure, they'll say, we'll depict all your priests as happily gay.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (zNxID)

331 I sure as hell didn't sit back and wait to be picked. It's by pure accident Dave and I found one another. Ask him the story sometime.

Sot of my liberal friends (yes, know) are fat (me too by about 20 lbs, but I'm not sloppy) or have piercings/tattoos/weird hair colors. That's really not very attractive.

Posted by: Gingy at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (NYEU2)

332 Shooting the watch is demonstrating your flying prowess by gesturing with your hands. Your watch is on the left hand. That's the bad guy. You are the right hand. You sneak up behind the watch hand and shoot. Shooting the watch

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

333 See, the thing is, yes, attractiveness IS important to women. But for a lot of women - and I can only really speak to those I know personally - the attractiveness or lack thereof can be fairly easily overcome by a man's personality and charm. If a man is attractive and a complete douche or bore, women might hang around b/c he's hot. But if a guy's less attractive but very charming/funny/kind, the woman is much more inclined to stay with him. It's much more palatable to sustain a relationship with someone you like to be around than it is to sustain a relationship with someone you're just flaunting as eye candy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (4df7R)


Funny was/is my top priority.
We laugh a lot.
Only way to go through life.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (qCMvj)

334 So Ace saw another movie?

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (vsbNu)

335 237 You joke but the way they're redefining autism pretty much anyone that isn't totally comfortable and outgoing is being called that these days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 05, 2015 02:21 PM (39g3+)

True. Being introverted and somewhat avoidant can put you on the spectrum now. I'm not autistic, I just don't like crowds of people, and find superficial social interaction to be exhausting.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:40 PM (mx5oN)



It was 1 in 88 for quite a while. The most recent commercials are now at 1 in 68

Posted by: Buzzion at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (z/Ubi)

336 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:03 PM (qCMvj)

I'm good at parties, in the sense that I can work the room, get all my hellos in, then GTFO ASAP and everyone says "it was so great to see you! I'm really bummed you couldnt stay longer!"

I call that a win / win / win. Because anyone who knows me would say I'm an extrovert. But secretly I identify as an introvert. Because most people bore me very quickly.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (AkOaV)

337 When someone compliments you, you look them in the eye and say "Thank you. That's very kind of you to say."
Works for every sort of compliment by both acknowledging the compliment and showing a tad bit of modesty (without disparaging yourself).

Posted by: Dancing Queen at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (L9GR7)

338
I'm skipping all the comments because it's just tedious reading over and over and over that I'm worth than than worthless because I'm ugly, but I found this really interesting.

Oh don't be silly. In here you exist in ascii and we all think you're beautiful.

In real life I have an objectively beautiful ex-girlfriend who is quite horrid and has spent the last couple of days gratuitously pouring spiders into my brain.

My real life current girlfriend is not a SI swimwear model, but she is a truly beautiful person and that turns out to be a better thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (JtwS4)

339 Women find you more attractive when you are with someone else. It's like some law of the universe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 03:07 PM (evdj2)

340 FWIW, I met my boyfriend through match.com b/c I have absolutely NO clue where to go to even find potential dates, let alone any self-confidence to put myself out there like that. He emailed me to say, "Hey, I like Japanese music and 'Firefly', too!" And bada-bing! We just had our 1 year anniversary. ^_^

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:07 PM (4df7R)

341 Jezebel is understating it. Those liberal Democrats in Congress are woofers.

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:08 PM (vsbNu)

342 Honestly, she's not worth constructing a counter argument for. Her premise is cartoonish. She describes Islamic attitude regarding women and ascribes that to conservative American males. She's so full of stink she's intolerable. So why tolerate? Why bother? I could not even read her words. My eyeballs refused it.

Posted by: bour3 at August 05, 2015 03:08 PM (5x3+2)

343 Women will never admit to themselves what they really find appealing.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2015 03:04 PM (b65cm)


Girth?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:08 PM (qCMvj)

344 "women are passive nurturers."



That's part of the confusion. *Active* nurturing would be more accurate. She's confused lack of existential angst for passivity.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 01:50 PM (GDulk)


Exactly. When you start with such a fundamental misunderstanding of traditional gender roles, your whole thesis is going to be flawed, and therefore it is unnecessary to read any further than that.

It's like talking about race relations, and somebody says to you "white people only care about keeping the black man down." Eh, no. We're done. Discussion over.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 05, 2015 03:08 PM (TOk1P)

345
Two Words: Suzi Quatro.

Rolling Stone #177 cover, 1975.

I was fifteen. That left a mark.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 03:09 PM (JtwS4)

346 osted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (/kI1Q)

They're not saying bit about you, HR. Aside from the people who have met you at moron meet ups (do you go to those?) nobody has seen you. We can only gauge your personality from your posts which-to me-is an intelligent, accomplished woman with a good sense of humor and who is frequently self deprecating about her looks. I don't care what anyone here looks like. I don't need to know. It wouldn't make any difference to me what they looked like. I'm not an oil painting myself. I like this place because there are interesting articles, humor and because in a world where things are upside down people here are right side up. You're one of them. Please don't beat yourself up, sister, or think others are doing so.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (OSs/l)

347 One thing I know for sure is the women on Fox News have a better chance of getting a side job as a server at Hooters than the skanks at MSDNC.

Posted by: Hank at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (N0Gml)

348 Oprah: What we need is a black Pope.

Posted by: Feel the Love at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (VcOqI)

349 Liz Phair was cute.


Fiona Apple gave me confusion boner.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (IPzoI)

350 *fistbump*

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:01 PM (mx5oN)


*fistbump back* Introverts represent.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (4df7R)

351 > I actually don't know how to handle compliments gracefully because I'm still sort of baffled to even receive one.

Good article. You got nice jugs.

Posted by: Dude Mann at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (ME3gs)

352 #343 Money.

Posted by: Feel the Love at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (VcOqI)

353 Smart funny ambitious and groomed. Not classically handsome. Well groomed


Guy who has a girl? Ugh. No thanks

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

354
My real life current girlfriend is not a SI swimwear model, but she is a truly beautiful person and that turns out to be a better thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (JtwS4)

------------------------------------

Awe,, I didn't know you were that into me....


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (HSmrB)

355 See, the thing is, yes, attractiveness IS important to women. But for a lot of women - and I can only really speak to those I know personally - the attractiveness or lack thereof can be fairly easily overcome by a man's personality and charm. If a man is attractive and a complete douche or bore, women might hang around b/c he's hot. But if a guy's less attractive but very charming/funny/kind, the woman is much more inclined to stay with him. It's much more palatable to sustain a relationship with someone you like to be around than it is to sustain a relationship with someone you're just flaunting as eye candy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (4df7R)

I'm not unattractive. I don't think. Fairly average looking.

My point was that women claim to be in to personality and humor and all these lofty things, when at the end of the day, they're just as bad (if not worse) then the guys.

Guys all chase the hot, stuck up, crazy, bitchy girls, and girls all chase the hot, asshole, alpha male guys.

One of my good friends -- who is INCREDIBLY attractive, I'd say she's the only 10 I know in real life -- can never land a guy and she's always crying about how no one wants to date her etc. etc. etc.

And I have to just roll my eyes. When you're left swiping on Tinder and/or meeting guys in bars, you're clearly going for "attractiveness" and "aggressiveness" over every other trait. Thus, she ends up with aggressive, attractive, assholes who move on as soon as they realize she's in "settle down and get married" mode.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:11 PM (AkOaV)

356 He emailed me to say, "Hey, I like Japanese music and 'Firefly', too!" And bada-bing! We just had our 1 year anniversary. ^_^


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:07 PM (4df7R)


If I would have known all it took was Japanese music and "Firefly"...

Posted by: Speaking for the Entire Male Moron Horde at August 05, 2015 03:11 PM (TOk1P)

357 #343 Money.
Posted by: Feel the Love at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (VcOqI)


I guess my husband married me for my money then.

That is so cliche, btw. Some do, some don't.
I didn't. I had way more.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:12 PM (qCMvj)

358 I'm sure he's just laughing at all of us, for falling for it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (qCMvj)


The suspicious part of me would say he's fishing for compliments Getting them too.

Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:12 PM (lIU4e)

359 >>Girth?


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:08 PM (qCMvj)



That is funny.

350 or so posts and we finally get to the heart of the matter, the wallet.

Posted by: Garrett at August 05, 2015 03:12 PM (2IEVZ)

360 Congrats MWR!

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:13 PM (vsbNu)

361 Yeah, Amy Schumer was making some statement about how she gets sex and she's 160 pounds.

Unless she's 4-feet tall, there's no way that Amy Schumer weighs 160 pounds. I'm guessing it's a lot closer to 200 pounds.

Then again, I'm partial to brunettes, so that may have something to do with it.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at August 05, 2015 03:13 PM (dPpmC)

362 318
All the women complimenting Ace have now made him feel like he needs to hide under his furniture for a while


Is that what he's calling it now?

Posted by: some random meathead at August 05, 2015 03:13 PM (Yrjee)

363 332 Shooting the watch is demonstrating your flying prowess by gesturing with your hands. Your watch is on the left hand. That's the bad guy. You are the right hand. You sneak up behind the watch hand and shoot. Shooting the watch
Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

I don't get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:13 PM (mx5oN)

364 Fiona Apple gave me confusion boner.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (IPzoI)


Fiona Apple was once legitimately hot, not just hot for a pop singer, and then she started making music deliberately designed to turn off her audience, and well, it worked.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 05, 2015 03:14 PM (TOk1P)

365 So MILFs are hotter then hippies with aversions to razors and soap, who knew.

Posted by: Jean at August 05, 2015 03:14 PM (ztOda)

366 339 Women find you more attractive when you are with someone else. It's like some law of the universe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 03:07 PM (evdj2)

Oh, that is without a doubt 100% true.

I've just had to accept that these hot girls throwing compliments at me and flirting with me and telling my girlfriend how jealous they are would never in a million years even talk to me if I were single.

It's a very bizarre twist in the universe. When you're single, it's impossible to find chicks. When you're in a relationship, they're omnipresent.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)

367 I have met ace, and no, he is neither fat nor unattractive. And I was wearing heels at the time, so I can vouch that he has nice hair when seen from above.


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (4df7R)

368 I'm an introvert, so I can handle social gatherings as long as I have plenty of recuperative time afterward booze.

Seriously, apparently I'm almost tolerable when I've got some booze in me.

Oh, and things that don't make you attractive at all? Self-pity and bitterness. Trust me on this, I've learned it the hard way.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (2l5vw)

369 347 One thing I know for sure is the women on Fox News have a better chance of getting a side job as a server at Hooters than the skanks at MSDNC.
Posted by: Hank at August 05, 2015 03:10 PM (N0Gml)


--[Starts image search for Harris Faulkner]

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (vsbNu)

370 tldr. BUT. Speaking as an ugly conservative woman, I am so SICK of this conversation. Gonna start my own support group, I am - the goal of it being to strategize ways to raise the level of conversation on both sides of the aisle, to something more interesting than how my flat chest affects my political viewpoint.

C'mon people. Really?

Posted by: Persnickety at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (SZa8B)

371 Women do get confused about the difference between being confident and being a douchebag . Unfortunately they many times realize it after it's too late.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (rfjjV)

372 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:05 PM (4df7R)

And how many of those women have gone up to less attractive men and tried to get to know if they're intelligent/funny? Or do they gravitate to the attractive men and then just bemoan that they can't find the ones who are smart and funny.

I have no illusions- I caught my wife because we worked together and she got to know me as someone who was smart and funny well before we thought about dating. If I'd been trying to "do the dating thing" and just run into her? She likely would not have given me the time of day. (In fairness, I'm both massively introverted AND shy, so I probably wouldn't have asked in the first place).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (kff5f)

373 I made more money than hubby when we met, and married. Not money. Potential

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (zOTsN)

374
During my dating life....





The Contours - First I Look at the Purse

http://tinyurl.com/ngs2hay

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 03:16 PM (kdS6q)

375 And I was wearing heels at the time, so I can vouch that he has nice hair when seen from above.

/checks Standard Ette Height Data
/works geometry of said viewpoint

...my God. The Ewok is Ant-Man.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 03:16 PM (2l5vw)

376 Unless she's 4-feet tall, there's no way that Amy Schumer weighs 160 pounds. I'm guessing it's a lot closer to 200 pounds.



Then again, I'm partial to brunettes, so that may have something to do with it.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at August 05, 2015 03:13 PM (dPpmC)


Yeah, no. 160 sounds about right. And sure, I can see how she gets laid. She's female, and seems to talk a lot about wanting sex. So... laid.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 05, 2015 03:16 PM (TOk1P)

377 They got the shooter in Memphis...so far only one wounded.

Posted by: rivahgurl at August 05, 2015 03:16 PM (YeHHx)

378 Money didn't buy me love. However, I can't tell you what it did buy.

Posted by: Feel the Love at August 05, 2015 03:17 PM (VcOqI)

379 Oh, this is PRICELESS!

Obama: "Killing humans and harvesting their organs is an atrocity that must end."

http://tinyurl.com/nvlxjs7

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (zyIlW)

380 #369 --[Starts image search for Harris Faulkner]

Harris's eyes should come with a GPS system, because I'm always getting lost in them.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (7ObY1)

381 It's a very bizarre twist in the universe. When
you're single, it's impossible to find chicks. When you're in a
relationship, they're omnipresent.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)


The other woman is their barometer for your favorability. "Oh, she's dating him. She's pretty and nice, so he must be okay. Gee, she's lucky to have found someone. "

And if they KNOW the other woman, it's even moreso. "Suzy's dating him, so he must be all right. Not a pushy jerk or a boring slob. Oh, hey, he was really funny when we went to Suzy's place for dinner!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (4df7R)

382 Oh noes, he had a hatchet!

Posted by: rivahgurl at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (YeHHx)

383 I made more money than hubby when we met, and married. Not money. Potential
Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (zOTsN)


That money argument is an older, traditional argument.

Many of us grew up with careers, so never needed money. It's a different world than before.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (qCMvj)

384 It's a very bizarre twist in the universe.
When you're single, it's impossible to find chicks.
When you're in a relationship, they're omnipresent.


If in a relationship, you've passed the "safe, not an axe murderer" test.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (vIf+g)

385 Liberalism is a disease, of course it is going to affect your appearance.

Posted by: Big Ben at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (5tKIx)

386 I'm an introvert

I thought I was an introvert in high school and then I thought I was an extrovert in college and now someone is trying to make 'ambivert' a thing...So who the heck knows.

If I make it to a party I have fun, but sometimes I have to drag myself out the door if I don't know enough people there.

Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:19 PM (lIU4e)

387 373
I made more money than hubby when we met, and married. Not money. Potential


Hey cutie!
You look like you could really carry a lot of water up a mountain. Bet you could field dress the hell out of a fresh-killed monkey too!

Call me?

Posted by: third world Match.com at August 05, 2015 03:19 PM (Yrjee)

388 If in a relationship, you've passed the "safe, not an axe murderer" test.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (vIf+g)

So why do serial killers have groupies who mail their moistened panties to them in prison?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:19 PM (mx5oN)

389 And how many of those women have gone up to less attractive men and tried to get to know if they're intelligent/funny? Or do they gravitate to the attractive men and then just bemoan that they can't find the ones who are smart and funny.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:15 PM (kff5f)

Right. That's exactly it.

"All I want is a smart, funny, decent guy but I always end up with these assholes!"
"Well, where do you go to meet guys?"
"Clubs, bars, late night booty calls on Tinder."
"Oh... I see. Shocking that the decent guys aren't out there drunkenly texting women d-pics at 3 am or groping every hot chick that walks through the door to the bar... Have you tried looking in other places?"
"uh, no. I LOVVEEE going clubbing. And I love how I can weed out the ugly and fat guys on Tinder with just a swipe."

Yep!

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (AkOaV)

390 Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (zyIlW)

Somebody get the clue-bat!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (kff5f)

391 You know what is attractive? Kindness is attractive. Being happy at the good fortune of someone else. Laughing at yourself instead of taking offense at every little thing. Being truly interested in others. Everyone has a story. Ask a probing question or two, and you will be amazed at the interesting/intelligent people you run into.
I was born a pretty girl, but my grandmother always said "pretty is as pretty does." It is true. Looks fade, but the *doing* of pretty things is timeless.

Posted by: TX ette at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (DchrN)

392 This IS what terminal liberalism looks like.

Posted by: Hillary at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (VcOqI)

393 I'm introverted with people I don't know. When I do know you, then please, tell me to shut up from time to time.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (Z3HgI)

394 And how many of those women have gone up to less attractive men and
tried to get to know if they're intelligent/funny? Or do they gravitate
to the attractive men and then just bemoan that they can't find the
ones who are smart and funny.



Depends on the woman, the man, and the venue, TBH. I've only ever had three boyfriends in my life (if you can even call them all that), so trust me, I'm no stranger to sitting on the sidelines wishing I had the gumption to talk to someone I fancied.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (4df7R)

395 I've found that guns and tanks are perfectly acceptable accessories for women.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (zyIlW)

396 Oprah is ill informed. There have been three Popes from Africa who were probably Black- Pope Victor, Pope Gelasius and one in the 400s named something like Militalis, and- no- chances are she wouldn't like a Black Pope because African Christians tend to be much more conservative than from other parts of the world.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (OSs/l)

397 You know what is attractive? Kindness is attractive. Being happy at the good fortune of someone else. Laughing at yourself instead of taking offense at every little thing. Being truly interested in others. Everyone has a story. Ask a probing question or two, and you will be amazed at the interesting/intelligent people you run into.
I was born a pretty girl, but my grandmother always said "pretty is as pretty does." It is true. Looks fade, but the *doing* of pretty things is timeless.
Posted by: TX ette at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (DchrN)


yes

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (qCMvj)

398 Hey cutie!
You look like you could really carry a lot of water up a mountain. Bet you could field dress the hell out of a fresh-killed monkey too!
Call me?
Posted by: third world Match.com



Hey cutie!
You look like you could really carry a lot of water up a mountain. Bet you could field dress the hell out of a fresh-killed deer too!
Call me?
Posted by: Redneck Match.com

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:22 PM (vIf+g)

399 Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (AkOaV)

And there it is. I'm not ugly, but I'm definitely no movie star. I'm not tall, and I tend to blend in. Like many people, nobody would stop to give me a second look. Now, this would come in extremely handy if I were a contract killer or something, but it doesn't do much in the dating department.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:22 PM (mx5oN)

400 Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM (AkOaV)

What really stung in HS was being the "nice guy" who all the girls would come to for advice.

I'm pretty sure at least some in the Horde know of what I speak.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:22 PM (kff5f)

401
"One thing I know for sure is the women on Fox News have a better chance of getting a side job as a server at Hooters than the skanks at MSDNC."


Now I know what I would like to see Andrea Tantaros and Kimberly Guilfoylewear for Halloween costumes.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 05, 2015 03:22 PM (OD2ni)

402 The other woman is their barometer for your favorability. "Oh, she's dating him. She's pretty and nice, so he must be okay. Gee, she's lucky to have found someone. "

And if they KNOW the other woman, it's even moreso. "Suzy's dating him, so he must be all right. Not a pushy jerk or a boring slob. Oh, hey, he was really funny when we went to Suzy's place for dinner!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:18 PM (4df7R)


Yeah, I s'pose.

It's just a funny social dynamic.

When I was single and was talking to a girl and she said "oh, and here's my boyfriend Rob." I'd say "oh, nice to meet you, I suddenly realized I have something more important to do" or whatnot and would go back on the hunt to find a single girl.

The "oh, well THIS DUDE is banging her, so she must be a good chick" calculus never went through my mind. And I think that's true for most guys.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (AkOaV)

403 The sanitation in this thread is starting to concern me.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (HstNY)

404 'm not at all shy - which may seem like a contradiction -

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 02:59 PM (mx5oN)

This! I can't get my extroverted (but had to actively overcome shyness/self-consciousness Dad) to understand that I'm *not* shy, just introverted. They're not the same at all, but it's nearly impossible to explain to someone who just plain experiences the world differently.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (GDulk)

405 "Looks fade, but the *doing* of pretty things is timeless."

And widens the observer's sense of what's beautiful, too.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (zNxID)

406 "/checks Standard Ette Height Data
/works geometry of said viewpoint "

MWR is typically not the shortest person in the room.

Even if it's a room full of men.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (VPLuQ)

407 So why do serial killers have groupies who mail their moistened panties to them in prison?



He's safe too.
If Manson were to ever get out, UHaul would be swamped.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:24 PM (vIf+g)

408
"What really stung in HS was being the "nice guy" who all the girls would come to for advice.

I'm pretty sure at least some in the Horde know of what I speak."


I do.

Posted by: Jorah Mormont aka Ser Friendzone at August 05, 2015 03:24 PM (OD2ni)

409 And how many of those women have gone up to less attractive men and
tried to get to know if they're intelligent/funny? Or do they gravitate
to the attractive men and then just bemoan that they can't find the
ones who are smart and funny.


first impressions, looks, appearances, breath, teeth, hair is human nature

everyone has hurdles after that

it's not easy to find love
you're lucky when you do

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:24 PM (qCMvj)

410 What really stung in HS was being the "nice guy" who all the girls would come to for advice.

I'm pretty sure at least some in the Horde know of what I speak.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:22 PM (kff5f)

Yep. Mr Permanent Friend Zone. The "safe" guy who she could trust to gush about how she'll never in a million years get a boyfriend and she wishes guys could be more like you.

Clearly, I've been there.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:24 PM (AkOaV)

411

Now, I must get back to work.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:24 PM (qCMvj)

412 What really stung in HS was being the "nice guy" who all the girls would come to for advice.

I'm pretty sure at least some in the Horde know of what I speak.


The dreaded "Friend Zone".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:25 PM (vIf+g)

413 This! I can't get my extroverted (but had to
actively overcome shyness/self-consciousness Dad) to understand that I'm
*not* shy, just introverted. They're not the same at all, but it's
nearly impossible to explain to someone who just plain experiences the
world differently.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (GDulk)


Same way here. Anyone who has met me (or hell, read one of my rants here or on Twitter) will know I'm not shy. I just prefer my own company or the company of a small, choice group of close friends or family. Big groups of largely unknown people just isn't my style. That's why I never got into the bar scene or "clubbing" or anything. Heck, it's why I never joined a book club.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:25 PM (4df7R)

414 Tenthette has had 3 instances in the last couple weeks where she wished
she'd had a gun. So maybe in the near future I can get her to take a
CHL course and start carrying.



A word to the wise: It has been my experience that God usually gives you a few taps on the shoulder before he gives you the final exam.

It is a good idea to pay close attention to unusual events in your life.

Posted by: An Observation at August 05, 2015 03:25 PM (p2ji4)

415 >>
The Contours - First I Look at the Purse

http://tinyurl.com/ngs2hay



Nice. Nashville Pussy does a great cover of that one.

Posted by: Garrett at August 05, 2015 03:25 PM (2IEVZ)

416 396 Oprah is ill informed. There have been three Popes from Africa who were probably Black- Pope Victor, Pope Gelasius and one in the 400s named something like Militalis, and- no- chances are she wouldn't like a Black Pope because African Christians tend to be much more conservative than from other parts of the world.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM (OSs/l)


--The last couple of elections Cardinal Arinze from Nigeria was on the short list for Pope. He would have been preferable to Francis, and yes, way too retro-conservative for Orcah.

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (vsbNu)

417 The "safe" guy who she could trust to gush about how she'll never in a million years get a boyfriend and she wishes guys could be more like you.

Which is, of course, a steaming pile of horseshit. If she actually wished guys could be more like you, she'd be banging you instead of the IROC-driving delinquent from up the street.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (mx5oN)

418 hey, can we talk about this next?

http://tinyurl.com/oo78u4x

the title says it all:

Hillary Clinton: Brilliant, Passionate and Trustworthy

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (qSIlh)

419 Sorry sweetheart, nobody wants a whiney ugly squaw.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (Sda6L)

420 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (q+zA9)

421 "I've found that guns and tanks are perfectly acceptable accessories for women."

The gun industry have predictably cranked out pistols in "feminine" color schemes. But have they done an M249 SAW yet? Hah!

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (noWW6)

422 MWR is typically not the shortest person in the room.



Even if it's a room full of men.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 03:23 PM (VPLuQ)


Heh. To quote Bandersnatch at the latest NoVaMoMee, "Whoa! You really are 9 feet tall!"
(That was and is an overstatement. But 2" heels put me over 6ft.)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (4df7R)

423
"I've found that guns and tanks are perfectly acceptable accessories for women."
I would date a woman solely for her tank,uh mind.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (LWWrf)

424
You know who the girls are who are the most attractive to guys? The slightly chubby, always fun and friendly girl that's cute, but not super hot. She's the one all the guys are happy to see and hang out with.

The super hot model-quality girl is harder to hang out with and is usually so self-conscious or self-obsessed she's no fun to be around.


So, Velma rather than Daphne?

Posted by: Fox2! at August 05, 2015 03:28 PM (vGJ7N)

425 Seems that someone has taken more potshots at the troops down in Mississippi.

Between that and men of middle-eastern descent "intimidating" military families, not to mention the sellout of all the sacrifices that were made by us in that shithole called the Middle East, it's no wonder recruitment is down.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (zyIlW)

426 Posted by: An Observation at August 05, 2015 03:25 PM (p2ji4)

Three boats and a helicopter.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (kff5f)

427 A word to the wise: It has been my experience that God usually gives you a few taps on the shoulder before he gives you the final exam.

It is a good idea to pay close attention to unusual events in your life.


^^^^^
THIS!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (vIf+g)

428 Which is, of course, a steaming pile of horseshit. If she actually wished guys could be more like you, she'd be banging you instead of the IROC-driving delinquent from up the street.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (mx5oN)

Oh yeah. no kidding.

I went through that with a few girls in HS and college. Luckily I learned at a young age that "once in the friend zone, always in the friend zone" so I never really put much... emotional effort in to any of them.

But still... that's almost worst then being ignored by the girl. At least if she's ignoring me, I can rationalize and say "well, maybe I've been too shy or said something rude once or whatever and she doesn't really know me."

Instead its, "yep she knows me and has zero sexual or physical attraction, and in fact seems to be totally unaware of the fact that I'm an eligible bachelor."

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (AkOaV)

429 --The last couple of elections Cardinal Arinze from
Nigeria was on the short list for Pope. He would have been preferable
to Francis, and yes, way too retro-conservative for Orcah.

Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (vsbNu)


I remember prior to Francis's selection how a lot of the speculation was that the next Pope WOULD be from Africa, because it really is the home of some of the most fervent Catholic and Christian belief in the world at this time.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (4df7R)

430 Kira Davis argues that this is because conservative women aren't afraid of their femininity nor to look pleasing to a Penis Monster.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
*deep breath*
Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha!

Probably said above, but it's likely that a lot of conservative women are more attractive because they are HAPPY, not ANGRY FEMINISTS always looking for something to bitch about.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 05, 2015 03:29 PM (NOIQH)

431 Maryanne not Ginger?

Betty not Veronica?

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:30 PM (zOTsN)

432 Ace could do an entire thread on "The Friend Zone".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:30 PM (vIf+g)

433 "So, Velma rather than Daphne?"

Or the classic...

Ginger, or MaryAnne?

Ginger is too high maintenance in my view.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 03:30 PM (VPLuQ)

434 Looks have a lot of variables. Class, education, heritage all play a role.



If your mom is 300 lbs and you live in a mobile home, aka Honey Boo Boo, you don't really have much to look up to.



If everyone in your family is 5'2" and 250, you got bad genes going for you.



All these things can be fixed, except the genetics. You can't make stupid smart or fat skinny.


I am never going to be over 6'2". My sons are. Why? I married a woman 5'11". Odds my sons will be taller than me?


Pretty damn good.


This also goes to marriage choices. The richer are marrying the rich, not many others.



The point is self selection in mates and habits is a function of a lot of things.



Mostly fcuking brains. That's all I got. Yes, and most ugly women are dumb as rocks. The stupid blonde jokes aside, trying talking with a dyke about anything. ANYTHING.


Posted by: Nip Sip at August 05, 2015 03:31 PM (0FSuD)

435 The dreaded "Friend Zone".

I was the guy that the parents loved but the daughters wanted nothing to do with.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 03:31 PM (sgrzZ)

436 MWR is typically not the shortest person in the room.

Even if it's a room full of men.


So if she says, "My eyes are up here", I can use "Sorry, my line of sight is blocked" as a valid response?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 03:32 PM (2l5vw)

437 Not good news in a democracy. Uglos vastly outnumber the beautiful people.

Posted by: Paul at August 05, 2015 03:32 PM (EYJbn)

438 Black is a perfectly acceptable color for a SAW.

See no reason to change it because I just so happen to have female genitalia.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:33 PM (zyIlW)

439 "So when The Other Kids say something nice to me, say 'I like your blog,' I still don't really know the right, 'pretty' way to handle this. I really should read a book on grace and charm or something, because I do not have it naturally."

I had the same problem. Here is what I've taught my kids: If it sounds like a compliment, say "Thank you".

Posted by: Kneave Riggall at August 05, 2015 03:33 PM (oax/X)

440 Then again, black is an acceptable color for pretty much anything.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:33 PM (zyIlW)

441 re 431: I knew a very good looking blonde years ago (still in touch with her) and I always described her by saying "you know what Betty from the Archie comics looks like?"
Woulda married her if I could have, too.

Posted by: mallfly at August 05, 2015 03:33 PM (qSIlh)

442 Bailey rather than Jennifer. Every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.

Posted by: Chi at August 05, 2015 03:34 PM (yB0WD)

443 "I've found that guns and tanks are perfectly acceptable accessories for women."
I would date a woman solely for her tank,uh mind.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (LWWrf)


Girls und Panzer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiIQ2zTwguc

Posted by: Hat und Panzer at August 05, 2015 03:34 PM (7YlUk)

444 How high maintenance can you be on a 100 acre island?


Ginger for the win!

And Veronica.

And Betty. Knowmsayin?

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 03:34 PM (IPzoI)

445 437
Not good news in a democracy. Uglos vastly outnumber the beautiful people.

Posted by: Paul at August 05, 2015 03:32 PM (EYJbn)

Depends on the definition of "beautiful" people. I try not to be an elitist, but some of my best friends are democrats.

Does that make me stupid or them? I going with them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 05, 2015 03:34 PM (0FSuD)

446 Then again, black is an acceptable color for pretty much anything.

If anyone's in doubt on this point, please consult Style Guide Appendix IV: "Dress, Little Black".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 03:34 PM (2l5vw)

447 so, OT but still ties in:

I'm going to a wedding in a few weeks where the bride is a "lipstick lesbian" woman who identifies as a transsexual man and she is marrying a butch lesbian.

I had to have that first part explained to me a few times, but I'm still not sure I get it.

Anyways, I thought it was interesting.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:35 PM (AkOaV)

448 *waves to Chi*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:35 PM (zyIlW)

449 IIRC, both Hitler and Stalin preferred people with physical deficits - unattractiveness, and/or physical defects - for their secret police. Stalin thought that those who felt rejected by society would bring the requisite animus towards others to the job.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 05, 2015 03:35 PM (oKE6c)

450 Bailey rather than Jennifer. Every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.



Bunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:35 PM (vIf+g)

451 I'd guess Margaret Atwood.

Posted by: Feh at August 05, 2015 02:04 PM (zNxID)


Well, she can't make a sammich, and if she did, would you eat it? I hear strychnine tastes yucky.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2015 03:36 PM (U5R9J)

452 Penis Monster?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 05, 2015 01:49 PM (iQIUe)



Yep.

Not only that but, I'm a triple threat:

I also sing and dance!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUnO4gK_56g

Posted by: The Monster in Your Pants at August 05, 2015 03:36 PM (0cMkb)

453 mynewhandle,

So let me get this straight...

A lipstick "lesbian" who "identifies" with being a transexual man is marrying a butch.

So is the bride really a dude or not?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (zyIlW)

454
Heh. To quote Bandersnatch at the latest NoVaMoMee, "Whoa! You really are 9 feet tall!"
(That was and is an overstatement. But 2" heels put me over 6ft.)


I was sort of quoting our friend who'd described you as "smart, cute as a button, and 9 feet tall".

Oh, and for all you introverts basking in your average heights, I'm taller than Beth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (JtwS4)

455 442 Bailey rather than Jennifer. Every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.

Nobody wore tight jeans like Bailey Quarters.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (7ObY1)

456 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:27 PM (4df7R)

Which has to make the AtC/MWR comedy duo even more awesome in the flesh.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (GDulk)

457 I'm out...that shit hurt my brain.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (zyIlW)

458 I thought lipstick lesbians were the feminine ones, liked girly stuff

Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

459 I always wondered how Ginger's dress could still have all those sequins on a desert island. I wear anything with sequins and by the end of the night 1/4 of them are gone.


Also, how did Mrs. Howell manage to keep feathers on her boas and hats? How did those not shed like a Shih Tzu with a nervous condition?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:38 PM (4df7R)

460 *waves back

Hey, cutie.

Posted by: Chi at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (yB0WD)

461 Bailey???



I suppose you'd take whatserface over Chrissy too?

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (IPzoI)

462 I'd just like to say Shemp is a loudmouth and a dumbass, a complete embarrassment.

But you all knew that. Carry on.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (OGm46)

463 Milo Yiannopoulos just wrote an article why feminists tend to be ugly
http://bit.ly/1gamLNG

Posted by: Matt at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (i6HL7)

464 415 >>
The Contours - First I Look at the Purse

http://tinyurl.com/ngs2hay

Nice. Nashville Pussy does a great cover of that one.


Yep, and the J. Geils Band too.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (7ObY1)

465 447
so, OT but still ties in:



I'm going to a wedding in a few weeks where the bride is a "lipstick
lesbian" woman who identifies as a transsexual man and she is marrying a
butch lesbian.




Just when I think I have heard every crazy moron comment, this shows up.



Get them kitchen ware, they'll love it. Don't wear pink, it will confuse them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (0FSuD)

466 I was sort of quoting our friend who'd described you as "smart, cute as a button, and 9 feet tall".

Oh, and for all you introverts basking in your average heights, I'm taller than Beth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (JtwS4)


To be fair, to her, yes, I may as well be 9ft tall. lol!
And yes, Bander is taller than me. By quite a bit, in fact!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:40 PM (4df7R)

467 "Which has to make the AtC/MWR comedy duo even more awesome in the flesh."

Is this the part where we talk about AtC, MWR and a trampoline?


Cause that was some funny siht right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 03:40 PM (VPLuQ)

468 "Maryanne not Ginger?"

Iowahawk said:

"Mrs. Howell. I need the money."

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2015 03:40 PM (noWW6)

469 I'd like to know exactly HOW conservative women qualify as passive. Most of us have firearms experience (except for those who lost their arms in an unfortunate canoe accident) and have a pretty good idea of how to take on most threats to our families and children.

IOW, Passive My Ass, honey.

Or, maybe that's just us 'ettes.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:41 PM (+YMhA)

470 How did everyone always have clean clothes and perfect haircuts?



Hollywood magic baby.

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2015 03:41 PM (IPzoI)

471 I always wondered how Ginger's dress could still have all those sequins on a desert island.

I wear anything with sequins and by the end of the night 1/4 of them are gone.


*Types
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Must. Not. Comment.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:41 PM (vIf+g)

472 Oh, and for all you introverts basking in your average heights

Huh?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:42 PM (mx5oN)

473 I have nothing but respect for all the 'ettes around here.

The fact that you're super-hot has nothing to do with that.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 03:42 PM (l2Gqi)

474 So let me get this straight...

A lipstick "lesbian" who "identifies" with being a transexual man is marrying a butch.

So is the bride really a dude or not?
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (zyIlW)


No, both are biologically female. And to be honest, neither of them are bad looking.

458 I thought lipstick lesbians were the feminine ones, liked girly stuff
Posted by: ThunderB at August 05, 2015 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

Yes. She dresses like a normal girl and is fairly attractive. Maybe a 6.5 to 7. But she identifies as a male who identifies as a woman, I guess.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:42 PM (AkOaV)

475 Is this the part where we talk about AtC, MWR and a trampoline?





Cause that was some funny siht right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 05, 2015 03:40 PM (VPLuQ)


I'm very proud of AtC for not only getting onto the trampoline, but not falling off. Neither she nor I have the best luck when it comes to balance.
I didn't even risk it. Nothing like a 6ft curly ginger toppling forward off a trampoline onto a crowd of stunned, drunk onlookers to really kill the mood.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (4df7R)

476 Bailey???

I suppose you'd take whatserface over Chrissy too?



Janet? Or Mrs. Roper?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (vIf+g)

477 Yes. She dresses like a normal girl and is fairly attractive. Maybe a 6.5 to 7. But she identifies as a male who identifies as a woman, I guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:42 PM (AkOaV)

I'm now utterly baffled. Probably because that's utterly baffling.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (mx5oN)

478 Let's face it, women are not attractive. Er... I mean, uh, women are not attracted to, um...

Women have issues, is what I mean. No... I'm talking about women's issues.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (Ui7Rt)

479 I wear anything with sequins and by the end of the night 1/4 of them are gone.

Which 1/4? rickb223 wants to know.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (sgrzZ)

480 I'm too lazy to read through the 468 comments made before mine, so I'll just say it Ace:

I like your blog.


Posted by: Py at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (Ob9gS)

481 461 Bailey???

Bailey was smart, sexy, had a killer bod but never let you see much of it (it's what you didn't see that made her so hot) plus she gave the impression she didn't know how hot she was...which made her even hotter.

And then there were those naughty librarian glasses...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 03:44 PM (7ObY1)

482
I wear anything with sequins and by the end of the night 1/4 of them are gone.





*Types

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Must. Not. Comment.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:41 PM (vIf+g)


*THWAPPITY THWAPPITY THWAP THWAP THWAP*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 05, 2015 03:44 PM (4df7R)

483 Get them kitchen ware, they'll love it. Don't wear pink, it will confuse them.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 05, 2015 03:39 PM (0FSuD)

Oh, so to smash the patriarchy they are eschewing the normal bridal shower(s?) and wedding registry and such.

They set up a go fund me to pay for the wedding and the honeymoon in lieu of gifts. Which, frankly, makes my life a lot easier anyways so I'm not complaining.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:44 PM (AkOaV)

484 The sanitation in this thread is starting to concern me.
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis

Sanitation is part of the hetero-patriarchy. Smell until there is equality!!!

Posted by: american feminists at August 05, 2015 03:44 PM (kivUY)

485 --The last couple of elections Cardinal Arinze from Nigeria was on the short list for Pope. He would have been preferable to Francis, and yes, way too retro-conservative for Orcah.
Posted by: logprof at August 05, 2015 03:26 PM (vsbNu)

I can't imagine why Orcah would care one way or the other whom the Pope might be at any given time. She doesn't have the slightest interest in any world view that says she can't have everything, do everything, and bitch about everything.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:44 PM (+YMhA)

486 http://tinyurl.com/q64sklo

Middle-eastern men intimidating US military families in Colorado and Wyoming.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 05, 2015 03:45 PM (k2fxD)

487 I like your blog, ace.

No need to say a thing.

Posted by: Blano at August 05, 2015 03:45 PM (heN73)

488 Nothing like a 6ft curly ginger toppling forward off a trampoline onto a crowd of stunned, drunk onlookers to really kill the mood.


I do not understand these words in this order.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (evdj2)

489 Yes. She dresses like a normal girl and is fairly attractive. Maybe a 6.5 to 7. But she identifies as a male who identifies as a woman, I guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle

I'm now utterly baffled. Probably because that's utterly baffling.
Posted by: Insomniac



Break out the whiteboard and dry erase markers.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (vIf+g)

490 I'm now utterly baffled. Probably because that's utterly baffling.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:43 PM (mx5oN)

Yes. Like I said, I needed both my girlfriend and her sister to explain it all to me, slowly, several times.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (AkOaV)

491 Dear Feminists,

You really don't want to go into a men's room.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (l2Gqi)

492 RS McCain's numerous posts on Feminist Tumblr, which sounds like a ring of Hell, demonstrate that it is a echo chamber of crazy and male hatred where these women push each other farther and farther into extremism.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (NOIQH)

493 Middle-eastern men intimidating US military families in Colorado and Wyoming.


CAIR warns against a backlash from next week's attacks.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (evdj2)

494 Break out the whiteboard and dry erase markers hand puppets.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:46 PM (vIf+g)


Fixed, per Style Guide.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:47 PM (kff5f)

495 Oh, so to smash the patriarchy they are eschewing the normal bridal shower(s?) and wedding registry and such.

They set up a go fund me


On the Matco Tool truck?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:47 PM (vIf+g)

496 Nothing like a 6ft curly ginger toppling forward off a trampoline onto a crowd of stunned, drunk onlookers to really kill the mood.


I do not understand these words in this order.

I'm with you, I just don't see the issue here.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 03:47 PM (sgrzZ)

497 495 Oh, so to smash the patriarchy they are eschewing the normal bridal shower(s?) and wedding registry and such.

They set up a go fund me


On the Matco Tool truck?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:47 PM (vIf+g)

Snap-On.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:47 PM (mx5oN)

498 There are three things I find attractive about women.

Number 1, bewbs.

Number 2... uh...

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (u9OP6)

499 But she identifies as a male who identifies as a woman, I guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:42 PM (AkOaV)

I knew a couple in college who were: 1. A man who wanted to be a woman, and was in the process of cutting off his bits and 2. a woman who wanted to be a man and was in the process of growing lots of facial hair and raising money to buy a weenie.

It was confusing as hell. I couldn't figure out why they didn't just have a transplant, one from the other, or, barring that, just be who they naturally were and pretend to be the other, or some such.

Crazy folk gonna be crazy, I guess.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (+YMhA)

500 And then there were those naughty librarian glasses...
Posted by: BlueStateRebel
------------------------------
Hah!
First time I saw a pic of SMFH with glasses, I made a similar comment.
I get "what is up with you guys and your damned librarian fantasies?"

Posted by: Chi at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (yB0WD)

501 Lizzy, what's wrong with echo chambers of crazy? That's what keeps me sane.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (l2Gqi)

502 They set up a go fund me to pay for the wedding and the honeymoon in lieu of gifts

Tacky. Emily Post would not approve, I think.

Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (lIU4e)

503 I think I've just seen the saddest image I've ever seen in my life. The picture of the baseball player embracing the 9 year old bat boy who had been accidentally struck in the head by a practice swing. The boy died a short time later. It is a gut wrenching picture that brought tears to my jaded eyes.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (VcOqI)

504
dead copycat: A GUNMAN ARMED WITH A HATCHET and a handgun is dead after a shootout with police at the Carmike Hickory 8 movie theater in the Nashville, Tenn., town of Antioch.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2015 03:49 PM (ODxAs)

505 I like choo-choos!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 05, 2015 03:49 PM (f+6Pd)

506 Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:41 PM (+YMhA)

Exactly. "Passive" isn't a word I ever think of in the context of 'Ettes. Not that I wouldn't *like* to be passive at times, but in general seems to lead to a victim mentality and I don't have time for that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 03:49 PM (GDulk)

507 They set up a go fund me

You should tell them about a Money Tree shower. They've been a thing since I was a child at least. Usually for singles in their mid-to-late 20s (and so already have what they need to set up house).

Even their GoFundMe is an artifact of the Patriarchy.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:49 PM (kff5f)

508 I worked with a dude who flunked charm school. Twice. It might have had something to do with all of the weed he smoked every day.

Posted by: Fritz at August 05, 2015 03:49 PM (UzPAd)

509 Middle-eastern men intimidating US military families in Colorado and Wyoming

I read this on Drudge with interest since I fall into this category and live in this region. Ugh. But remember, it's open carry in Wyoming

Posted by: small town girl at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (5rmnS)

510 The humanitarian thing to do would be to use selective breeding and cosmetic surgery to reduce the number of ugly girls.

That way, girls wouldn't have to be so ashamed of their looks that they turn to the Left.

Posted by: WC Varones at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (FL7kh)

511 Tacky. Emily Post would not approve, I think.
Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (lIU4e)

Yeah, well. Outdoor lesbian weddings in a public park are pretty tacky to begin with.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (AkOaV)

512 I've never understood guys who tolerate being in the "Friend Zone".

It's not always easy to spot on the first 1-3 dates, so there's that.

But, once that's clear- it should be Adios, doll.

Unless, the object of your obsession looks like a young Sophia Loren, has the brains of Madame Curie,
and the wit sans the venom of Dorothy Parker-

you are doing the whole dating/courtship thing wrong.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (0cMkb)

513 Number 2... uh...
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (u9OP6)

The other one. Duh.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (+YMhA)

514 >>Lizzy, what's wrong with echo chambers of crazy? That's what keeps me sane.

Depends on the brand of crazy, I suppose.
Seriously, read just one of the feminist tumblr posts at theothermccain.com and tell me these women are not cuckoo coa-coa puffs, and ANGRY.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 05, 2015 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

515 You should tell them about a Money Tree shower.

We've done this a few times at work. But you can't ASK for one for yourself!

Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:52 PM (lIU4e)

516 tend to strive for a caucasian...look

What the heck does that even mean?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 02:41 PM (OSs/l)


They wear caucassins on their feet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2015 03:52 PM (U5R9J)

517 So,
all those super hot super models who eagerly (almost) take their clothes off for money and fame are conservative?

Good to know.

Posted by: Bliss Beerwaist at August 05, 2015 03:52 PM (qix1y)

518 A GUNMAN ARMED WITH A HATCHET


Was he stopped by a hatchetman armed with a gun?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2015 03:52 PM (7ObY1)

519 Tacky. Emily Post would not approve, I think.
Posted by: Lea at August 05, 2015 03:48 PM (lIU4e)

Emily would have slapped them silly at the words "lesbian wedding."

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:52 PM (+YMhA)

520 This might apply to conservative female politicians, but it doesn't apply to female conservative journalists. The female journalists at NYT (default liberals) are far more attractive than Daily Caller. Of course getting a job at NYT is a high-status position and NYT can afford to hire the most attractive of many equally qualified candidates.

Posted by: bjk at August 05, 2015 03:53 PM (x2rNW)

521 It's not always easy to spot on the first 1-3 dates, so there's that.

The problem is that The Friend Zone normally catches you before the first date. In fact, I think I had a sum total of 8 dates in High School. Because none of the girls were even interested in the first date - see also: Friend Zone.

What made it so annoying was that they would never think of dating you, but had no problem at all coming to you to complain about what jerks their current boyfriends were.

And, being a nice guy, it's just not in me to say "but first you will blow me."

Or... wasn't back then.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:53 PM (kff5f)

522
So is the bride really a dude or not?


Posted by: SMFH

Yes it's confusing, but as long as you're sporting a large cock, you can be either a male or female. I trust that clears up the ambiguity.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 05, 2015 03:53 PM (OiFtZ)

523 From Weasel Zippers:
UPS will still ship big game trophies around the world.

Money talks, bs walks.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (vIf+g)

524 Worst faux pas when talking to a woman.

Asking when she is due when she's not pregnant

Telling her she looks great for 50 when she's only 40.



Posted by: Cruzinator at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (rfjjV)

525 you are doing the whole dating/courtship thing wrong.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2015 03:50 PM (0cMkb)

I haven't done much of it, as it has always ended badly. I've been an emotional toxic waste dump, punching bag, and nothing more than a wallet. So, at this point, I've said fuck it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (mx5oN)

526 Ace, I know you're long gone from the comments section, but I'm posting this anyway. I have read your blog everyday for 9 years. I come here for new, laughs, and comraderie when the going gets tough out there in the political/cultural world. But mostly I come here because you are a hella writer. I laugh, I cry, I get pissed off, and sometimes come away feeling smarter because I learned something. You should really take a compliment. You have a totally HOT mind.

Posted by: small town girl at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (5rmnS)

527 Ugly on the inside always comes through on the outside.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (f+6Pd)

528 Lizzy I was talking about this brand of crazy. This right here. I can't come out and say it without accidentally complimenting the proprietor.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 03:54 PM (l2Gqi)

529
hatchet: Yeah I thought the fox news headline was written weird too, but copy/paste is the easy way to go.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2015 03:55 PM (ODxAs)

530 @504

So, one could say that he's the holey hatchetman of Antioch.

...

Does that work? I'm not sure that works, but I'm going with it.

Posted by: Big McLargehuge Mk I at August 05, 2015 03:55 PM (u9OP6)

531 Police: Active shooter reported dead at Nashville area theater

http://preview.tinyurl.com/oustvf4

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 05, 2015 03:55 PM (7YlUk)

532 So, one could say that he's the holey hatchetman of Antioch.

...

Does that work? I'm not sure that works, but I'm going with it.
Posted by: Big McLargehuge Mk I at August 05, 2015 03:55 PM (u9OP6)

Highly effective against rabbits.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2015 03:56 PM (mx5oN)

533 >>Lizzy I was talking about this brand of crazy. This right here. I can't come out and say it without accidentally complimenting the proprietor.

Oh *smacks head at missing the obvious*
YES, AoS crazy is essential to staying sane

Posted by: Lizzy at August 05, 2015 03:56 PM (NOIQH)

534 397 You know what is attractive? Kindness is attractive. Being happy at the good fortune of someone else. Laughing at yourself instead of taking offense at every little thing. Being truly interested in others. Everyone has a story. Ask a probing question or two, and you will be amazed at the interesting/intelligent people you run into.
I was born a pretty girl, but my grandmother always said "pretty is as pretty does." It is true. Looks fade, but the *doing* of pretty things is timeless.
Posted by: TX ette at August 05, 2015 03:20 PM
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yes
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2015 03:21 PM
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Agree!
I was just slightly over average in looks and body type. As I get older, the looks fade and the body type is heavier. But what attracts people to me most is my personality and ability to have interesting conversations. Yes, physical attraction is an initial response but having good personality traits is what keeps people interested. I believe that attractive people with nasty, negative, mean personalities actually become less attractive to people once they find out about it.

Posted by: lindafell de Spair at August 05, 2015 03:57 PM (KkliO)

535 531 Police: Active shooter reported dead at Nashville area theater

http://preview.tinyurl.com/oustvf4
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 05, 2015 03:55 PM (7YlUk)

Not all that active any more, is he?

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 05, 2015 03:57 PM (+YMhA)

536 Nood Deadpool.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 05, 2015 03:57 PM (kff5f)

537 Worst faux pas when talking to a woman.
Asking when she is due when she's not pregnant



A guy never comments on a woman's pregnancy until he sees the head crowning.
For that very reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2015 03:57 PM (vIf+g)

538 Mistaking the mom for daughter? Can work if you're convincing.
Mistaking daughter for mom?
If the daughter is 7 yrs. old or younger, she'll think it's funny.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 05, 2015 03:57 PM (l2Gqi)

539 Ok, so I made my comment. That means there should be a new thread starting.


Huh!

Posted by: Bliss Beerwaist at August 05, 2015 03:58 PM (qix1y)

540 You should really take a compliment. You have a totally HOT mind.


Oh boy. Cue Mr. Autism to start with the nipple-rubbing and the moaning again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 05, 2015 03:58 PM (8ZskC)

541 The problem is that The Friend Zone normally catches you before the first date. In fact, I think I had a sum total of 8 dates in High School.

The friend zone eliminates you from the dating pool of a particular girl. I swam in that pool a lot in high school. 3 dates total in high school and 2 I was ask out on so there could be a double date.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 05, 2015 03:58 PM (sgrzZ)

542 FenelonSpoke "I like your blog, Ace"



Ace; "you just want to do sex to me"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 05, 2015 03:58 PM (z+4T3)

543 FenelonSpoke "I like your blog, Ace"

Ace; "you just want to do sex to me"


Marco Rubio's trash; "Better you than me"

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 05, 2015 04:00 PM (2l5vw)

544
http://tinyurl.com/q64sklo

Middle-eastern men intimidating US military families in Colorado and Wyoming.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 05, 2015 03:45 PM (k2fxD)








Wyoming is Constitutional Carry. I think the mohammedans aren't gonna be as happy with the outcome as they think.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2015 04:00 PM (JbaZF)

545 Sorry, Nashville, not Memphis. Brooke Baldwin's fault,...sound like no one but gun/hatchet man dead. 51 yo local man. Wounded guy is not seriously wounded. Good Lord they just said it might have been an axe!

Posted by: rivahgurl at August 05, 2015 04:00 PM (YeHHx)

546 ***"I had to have that first part explained to me a few times, but I'm still not sure I get it."***


That would be because you're not bugfuck crazy.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 05, 2015 04:00 PM (xSCb6)

547 I've long thought the world (or at least America) can be divided into people who still carry grudges from high school and people like myself who were like "fuck that shit, I'm not gonna let this hellhole define me" the second they graduated.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 05, 2015 04:01 PM (R1mDg)

548
"I wear anything with sequins and by the end of the night 1/4 of them are gone."





They -- and my innocence -- lie scattered across the nightclub floor like so many fallen stars....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 05, 2015 04:03 PM (kdS6q)

549 Which has to make the AtC/MWR comedy duo even more awesome in the flesh.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2015 03:37 PM (GDulk)


A double threat that punches high AND low!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 05, 2015 04:03 PM (0NdlF)

550 "Inner-outer, good insight. I would take it another step: most conventional white liberals are failed inners. They expected, they felt entitled to, they believed in the system to reward them. However, they proved uncompetitive, both in the market and sexually, and when they flame out, they don't have strength to blame self. Thus, they go bitter lib, to punish and destroy a system that failed to recognize their illusionary excellence. That's why they're surly, hostile, mendacious and generally annoying as hell."

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The flip side is that there are more than a few conservatives who are "failed Outers" -- I'd place myself in this category. I just could never abide the sheer bitterness of libs -- the way they just embraced loserdom like it was a virtue. I'm a confirmed cynic, but I've never been bitter about anything. I was always like, "dude, if you can't laugh at this shit, what's the point?"

Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 05, 2015 04:11 PM (R1mDg)

551 Well, it's a trade off. Liberal women's pussies smell worse, but they give better head.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 05, 2015 04:36 PM (U936r)

552 ...the old-fashioned gender paradigm in which husbands are active providers and women are passive nurturers.

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It's the leftists who always denigrate women's roles and then complain that women have such denigrated roles.

Posted by: RKae at August 05, 2015 04:57 PM (WrtZp)

553 I myself am a natural inner - smart, reasonably good looking, athletic, funny. The problem is, for some reason, I'm completely oblivious to social signaling. I literally cannot follow the group over the cliff, I cannot engage in otherizing theouters,I can abide tropes, slogans, sayings, conventional wisdom, etc. I disagree with the common wisdom just because it is common, and typically not containing much wisdom. I get bored with people saying and doing the same things. I have a nearly insatiable urge to make the inners uncomfortable. Hence Isuffer the endless yo-yo:inner then outer, then inner, then outer.

Posted by: Geroge Orwell's ghost at August 05, 2015 05:08 PM (HuVX+)

554 This.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2015 05:11 PM (Del91)

555 The stupid blonde jokes aside, trying talking with a dyke about anything.

I've talked with a number of "dykes"-only I don't refer to them as that. I refer to them by their names and we've had a quite pleasant and interesting conversations, and no the ones I've met are neither dumb as rocks nor radical posters on Timblr either, then again, i've met some stupid heterosexual men as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2015 05:15 PM (OSs/l)

556 "American conservatism is profoundly tied up with the old-fashioned gender paradigm in which husbands are active providers and women are passive nurturers. In that paradigm, a woman's job--the core of her femininity--is to make herself as pretty as possible and then sit back and wait to be picked."


My intelligent, pretty, conservative wife who makes more money than I do and has a STEM degree would punch this twat in the mouth if she said that to her face. LOL.

Posted by: ballistic at August 05, 2015 05:32 PM (2OcMe)

557 I think the whole she-bang started with hippies and the "natural beauty" yada. I have an ex-friend from junior high through her attorney-induced liberal insanity...ok, she was cray-cray before that sayz my parents and husband and other friends). She was convinced she was a natural beauty somehow and shunned the trappings of make-up. Ok. Not, but whatever. I wanted to tackle her and draw on eyebrows (us supermodels don't need to but things are fading now so I have to start. Where was I?).

Anyway, back during the "natural" era and the original concept of not shaving armpits (this generation has NOTHING on the hippies of Woodstock,nor good music, but I digress), this was the thing. Fellas, you can put on make-up and look "natural" but enhanced like a Wonderbra for your face. Apparently this is a secret from lib wimmen but it is a big factor in why conservative women look better. I confess I don't go out in public without a little enhancement, so bite moi.

On the other hand, there are some who cannot be helped (see Rep Rosa DeLauro who may be from another planet). Or poor Chelsea. Money can't buy everything, y'all.

And, finally, conservative women don't fret over climate change and the boring and excruciating minutia of being liberal. This alone causes wrinkles and cankles.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, Walker/whoever 2016 at August 05, 2015 05:42 PM (2qF5m)

558 Ace, the way you take compliments is fine.

I mean, it's not exactly socially graceful, but hilarious. I see no problem.

Posted by: Jobey in Error at August 05, 2015 06:22 PM (dGWLp)

559 Ace, when you receive a compliment, just say "Thank you" and weigh its merit later (keeping in mind your self-deprecating bias.)

Posted by: My Sisters' Brother at August 05, 2015 06:23 PM (dorN6)

560 Ace, I recommend a few ways of handling compliments: 1) A simple "Thank you." This is easy and gracious and you can't go wrong. 2) Agree with the compliment giver: "Thanks, I like it too!" 3) Enthusiasm: "Music to my ears!"
4) Compliment back: "Hey, my readers really rock!"

Or you could go with all four: "Thank you, that's music to my ears. I like it too. My readers really rock!"

Posted by: debiesam at August 05, 2015 06:27 PM (CmAiH)

561 Ace, I am an Outer who grew into some decent Inner circles. Proverbial ugly duckling turned into a swan in college; went into a profession where my nerdy brain is rewarded. But, I am still naturally introverted and it doesn't take long for my inner insecure child to come to the fore when I feel socially awkward.
Believe it or not, reading How To Make Friends and Influence People helped me begin the process of acquiring more social skills. And I just decided a few years ago to make a short, friendly comment to almost everyone I meet in daily life, even though that's kinda painful for me. It's been amazing and rewarding and successful beyond my expectations. I've developed a patter, and being observant and intelligent (as I'm sure you are too) I have also accumulated a memory-database of what remarks get the best results, and how to tell when to pull back and when to extend the conversation.

Posted by: RigelDog at August 05, 2015 07:39 PM (pfVPE)

562 To all those still struggling with social interaction: I just went through this with my shy tween daughter. We practice social interactions every morning over breakfast and on the drive to school

Receive a compliment? Rule 1: Smile. Then: "Thank you." A little cheesy for a tween, but OK for an adult - follow up with "That means a lot to me" or "you made my day." That gives the giver a "warm fuzzy" back. If you want to continue the interaction, but have had a hard time figuring out how ... Ask a question. So respond: "Thank you . You made my day. But I'm always looking to improve the blog - what do you like best? What do you like least?"

Conversation starters are a beast. I personally can talk to the wall about the table, and do not give a shit what anyone thinks about me, so I had to work hard to figure out how to coach my daughter. What I learned during sorority rush? People LOVE to talk about themselves. So give them a compliment and seek information. "Hey! Cool shirt! Would you share where you found it?" Or .... "I like your nail polish. Where did you find it?"

Also, people like to feel "in" - as the above comments spell out -- so if you want to be in a group, figure out a signal to let other people know they are special, that they are an "in" person. Make your own group! One of my co-workers little thing is to say "Word up" or "hey playa" whenever he approaches one of us. It's funny, because he's as white as white can be and about 27. But he makes others feel included and special with those little nicknames. And people are really drawn to him as a result.

Posted by: the other coyote at August 05, 2015 10:31 PM (QsGde)

563 The "right" way to handle a compliment is to say "thank you". That's all. It doesn't take self-deprecating humor, or a witty rejoinder, or an abashed mumbling of undeservedness. Just a simple "thank you."

An accompanying brief smile is optional.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at August 06, 2015 12:31 AM (nUNmO)

564
Wayyyy late in commenting, so this will probably never get read. But:
As someone who has been both an Outer and an Inner (late, LATE bloomer), I find it a fascinating topic. I, too, had a huge problem accepting compliments as an Outer, and carry that still today. What I really think is that THAT reaction of mmine is way more self-obsessed than I ever realized. (Way more can be said here, but please consider - is this true?) Just as I believe shyness is very self-absorbed (and I am still somewhat shy).
I credit my experience with both groups as largely the reason I find very bright, humorous men more attractive than the traditionally handsome. It's just the truth.
@Ace - One response I find very easy to say and mean when complimented is "You're very kind. Thank you."

Posted by: Tari at August 06, 2015 09:18 AM (9GBYp)

565 Antone who could play this song needs to be locked into a room and be subjected to an endless loop of Obama speeches for all eternity.

Posted by: Veritas at August 06, 2015 03:10 PM (AV5BN)

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