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Feminist Bitchings of the Day
1. There's Too Much Air Conditioning In Offices Because of Men.
At the office, she bundles up in cardigans or an oversized sweatshirt from her file drawer. Then, she says, "I have a huge blanket at my desk that I've got myself wrapped in like a burrito." Recently, "I was so cold, I was like ‘I'm just going to sit in my car in like 100-degree heat for like five minutes, and bake.'" Ms. Mahannah, 24, who wrote on Twitter that at work she felt like an icy White Walker from "Game of Thrones," said a female co-worker at her digital marketing agency cloaked herself in sweaters, too. But the men? "They're in, like, shorts."So, the New York Times saw a feminist bitching on Twitter, and immediately said: Write that story.
Right. It happens every summer: Offices turn on the air-conditioning, and women freeze into Popsicles. Finally, scientists (two men, for the record) are urging an end to the Great Arctic Office Conspiracy. Their study, published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change, says that most office buildings set temperatures based on a decades-old formula that uses the metabolic rates of men. The study concludes that buildings should "reduce gender-discriminating bias in thermal comfort" because setting temperatures at slightly warmer levels can help combat global warming. "In a lot of buildings, you see energy consumption is a lot higher because the standard is calibrated for men’s body heat production," said Boris Kingma, a co-author of the study and a biophysicist at Maastricht University Medical Center in the Netherlands. "If you have a more accurate view of the thermal demand of the people inside, then you can design the building so that you are wasting a lot less energy, and that means the carbon dioxide emission is less."The article notes that women often wear less clothing -- and clothes that expose cleavage, which is skin right by the body's core, contributing to their feelings of being cold. But overall, women's metabolism makes them less warm. But here's the thing: If you're cold, you can always put a sweater on. What can you do if you're hot? Nothing, except walk around with an ice-pack on your neck. But whatever. I'm sure in a year we'll have the offices nice and toasty, and men will be uncomfortable and sweaty in their mandated suits, but who cares, they're men, they're animals who walk on two legs. 2. Women Are Taking Out More Loans For College Than Men, and Working Lower-Paying Jobs, And This Is Society's Fault. I'd have more respect for feminists if they acted in concord with their beliefs about being independent -- instead of always demanding that a Daddy Figure (either the actual daddy, or the government) make up their shortfalls in the rent. Dear Ladies, stop pursuing degrees which "empower" you spiritually or "as women" but prepare you to be little other than the decorous wife of a high-earning male, and start actually pursuing the practical, wealth-enabling degrees the boys you want to marry pursue. And if you don't, and spend $200,000 pursuing a degree in Art History that prepares you for nothing more than a $40,000 p.a. job as a greeter at a gallery, then that's on you, Sister, not me, and stop wanting at the rest of us to make you whole. How about pursuing some of those STEM degrees you're always whining you're excluded from due to Terroristic Shirts? Oh right, the guys you want to marry aren't in STEM, in they're in more luxurious, socially-superior sorts of majors. Okay, carry on then. Oh, and:
English is fantastically expressive language, but Vox has other ideas https://t.co/iwG8VOOaA8
— Paolo_The_Wifehunter (@AceofSpadesHQ) August 4, 2015Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2015 04:56 PM (St6BJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 04:57 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 04, 2015 04:57 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (srIct)
The article notes that women often wear less clothing -- and clothes that expose cleavage,
Did the article note the best times and locations to observe this behavior?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 04, 2015 04:57 PM (Ii765)
Women being people like Margaret Thatcher. These are mewling quims of progesteronal outrage.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (St6BJ)
As far as the loans? You don't need college to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.
Posted by: tu3031 at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (YFFpo)
It's almost as if these aren't real complaints, but just another opportunity to whine and make everyone else hop to your command. Almost.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 04:59 PM (evdj2)
Burlap burqas. Ah, deevolution.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (St6BJ)
This has happened becuase Bush lied to women of all colors and convinced them to go to college to pursue bogus degrees that men did not want. presdent obama should make companies pay these women the salary they are worth and it should be equal or more then fat men that smoke stinky ass cigars with huge beer guts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (lNSdJ)
Posted by: some random meathead at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (1+7D3)
nah to be honest i think a lot of places overdo it, too.
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (dciA+)
I should note that I saw an old style braless girl with a semi-open top at the CVS today.
Yes, it made my day. That's the kind of sight that used to be regular.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (JtwS4)
It's almost as if these aren't real complaints, but just another opportunity to whine and make everyone else hop to your command. Almost.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (LAe3v)
I thought that FUPA was limited to the UPA.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (St6BJ)
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (IG5KL)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (N3XUX)
in my experience, women complain of being cold a lot.
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Yo! at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (W6iIX)
Vox is looking for a 'race and identity editor' to 'conceptualize and implement an editorial strategy for the race and identity team.'
yeah, English all right.
Posted by: mallfly at August 04, 2015 05:02 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:02 PM (LAe3v)
Oh, and there is that little issue of differing ratios of adipose tissue, too.
Posted by: Qoheleth at August 04, 2015 05:02 PM (iIzG7)
nah to be honest i think a lot of places overdo it, too.
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:00 PM (dciA+)
And then you go outside where it's Africa-hot and then back in.
Perfect for chest colds and Legionnaire's Disease.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2015 05:02 PM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: European AC hater at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (srIct)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (dciA+)
Personal experience.
Been married 44 years.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (M+9nV)
in my experience, women complain of being cold a lot.
Because they are cold, heartless, venomous little bitching machines with spiders in their souls and...
oops. Sorry. Yeah, they have different circulation so they're cold.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (evdj2)
When a store is not A/C'd to my liking (meaning I sweat going from aisle to aisle) I find a manager and tell them I'm leaving because it's too darn hot to shop in their store.
I'm getting cranky in my old age, I admit it.
Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (YHP5A)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Demonica at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (ZxVJD)
"But here's the thing: If you're cold, you can always put a sweater on."
That defeats the purpose of showing off the cleavage.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 04, 2015 05:03 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Paco at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (o5rc3)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (2Ojst)
You're missing the message.
...
i think the message is "please untie me and let me out of your root cellar"
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (dciA+)
...bitches.
Posted by: Garrett at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (85e8e)
I want to punch all these whiny bitches in the face. It's a fucking greenhouse at my desk in the summer. I've had to switch to showering after work because I'm sticky mess by lunchtime. (I'm wearing cotton pants and a cotton 3/4 sleeve knit shirt because I'm so old I remember when women engineers didn't dress like the office was a cafe on the beach.)
And in the winter when it's nice by this desk (at previous desks it was too fucking hot to wear my cute sweaters; this desk is better) it's the males in polo shirts bitching about how they're "freezing."
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:04 PM (/kI1Q)
I should note that I saw an old style braless girl with a semi-open top at the CVS today.
Yes, it made my day. That's the kind of sight that used to be regular.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Try not looking. You can't. It's like there's a tractor beam dragging on your eyeballs.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: rosie o'donut at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (kivUY)
Ace, you will be pleased to know that I've renamed my Beretta "Paolo" in honor of your alter ego.
Paolo, he feels good, cradled in your hand, jes?
Oh jes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (jR7Wy)
I think this calls for a regular daily feature, ace.
And it shall be called "Your Daily Dose of Feminist Bitching".
That's one hour of easy-peasy scribbling right there!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (k5eO3)
Oh, and make mine a pastrami on rye. And a cold beer while you are at it.
Posted by: SexistPig at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (DlmoZ)
I've spent a lot of time in server rooms. It's nice in the summer...for about ten minutes.
Posted by: tu3031 at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: some random meathead at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (1+7D3)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (IPzoI)
Nice and warm in the kitchen.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Demonica at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (ZxVJD)
I bet the person who wrote the story knows the tweeter. So many stories seem to boil down to 'my NYC friends are doing this so it's a New Trend Sweeping the Country!'
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (dciA+)
Yeah. I've always had that thought, and I've never associated it with gender. I've never even conceived that it could be associated with gender.
If it's too cold, you can easily remedy it by having a jacket in handy. But it it's too hot, there's nothing you can do. Therefore, it's probably always best to err on the side of cold.
But now they've dragged gender into it. Quelle surprise. These people are such fuckheads. Hate them. Was I a secret sexist when I was thinking this thing through without realizing that someone could project a gender angle on it? These people are so vile.
Posted by: Mr. Freeze at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (dciA+)
I think that what they are really saying is "come warm me up big boy"
Posted by: blaster at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (0ugVu)
Like 5 degrees overboard.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (IPzoI)
Sorry to hear it, Nancy. Can I get you a Snuggie?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (evdj2)
I have a server room next to my office. Let me tell you about cold.
I've spent a lot of time in server rooms. It's nice in the summer...for about ten minutes.
Right now my office is in the server room - due to space constraints. I hear ya
Posted by: SexistPig at August 04, 2015 05:07 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Garrett at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (85e8e)
They are saying, my vaheenya is cold, come put your man-fire inside it.
I think. I think.
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (dciA+)
The other day, on the tv at the pub, there was a rerun of some really, really old "Battle of the Network Stars." Lots of water elements. And NOBODY had a bra on. Must've been the 80's. Despite the sunny Malibu day, lotta headlights on. It was so funny!
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Mr. Freeze at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Yo! at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (W6iIX)
Did you get to keep your stapler?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (rfjjV)
Ah, the picture becomes clearer: the maintenance guys like pokies. I get it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (oKE6c)
Disagree. Think about Hillary in a string bikini. That'll put a chill up anyone's spine.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)
I admit I've complained that thermostats are set to accommodate men in suits, but never attributed it to patriarchal malice. I would roast everyone else if the thermostat were set to keep me comfortable, so of course I don't demand that.
I would happily settle for 72-75 degrees in summer and 68-70 degrees in winter.
Posted by: Mindy at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (dg8OI)
You 20 something bitches wait till those hot flashes show up. You going to be loving that A/C
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bruce at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (8ikIW)
Yeah, me, too.
Say, you don't think this means women's and men's bodies are different? Because we're not allowed to say stuff like that anymore - someone kindly inform NYT, stat!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (NOIQH)
Every time she would walk through our department everyone's head would pop up like "earthquake!"
So basically every where she walked people were constantly looking up. I felt bad for her.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (GpgJl)
>>in my experience, women complain of being cold a lot.
Posted by: Garrett at August 04, 2015 05:08 PM (85e8e)
THIS! Not, of course, our women here at the HQ but, in general, if they're talking, they're bitching.
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (evdj2)
by Pam Belluck
A health and science writer for The New York Times, she was a member of The New York Times reporting team that received the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting for coverage of the 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa. She also covered the Oklahoma City bombing, the crash of TWA Flight 800 and the Columbine high school shooting.
Now on the "30ish and still single woman with a space heater under her desk" beat.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (kdS6q)
Every time she would walk through our department everyone's head would pop up like "earthquake!"
So basically every where she walked people were constantly looking up. I felt bad for her.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (IPzoI)
Were there ripples in the coffee, like in Jurassic Park?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (2Ojst)
CVS needs to hire some of them to increase sales. I saw a report on them today saying their income is down because they stopped selling tobacco products.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:05 PM (LAe3v)
They call 'em "high beams" for a reason.
Posted by: filbert at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (JvPqF)
What's the problem?
Posted by: Kris Palemaker at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (2WTOn)
Anyhoo... air conditioning... short skirt... she was tugging at the poor thing. I'm getting warm just thinking about it.
Alas, she won't be doing her internship here, in my location.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (TOk1P)
yeah, English all right.
Posted by: mallfly at August 04, 2015 05:02 PM (qSIlh)
What's the pay for this kind of "work"? Because someone could have a ton of fun with it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 04, 2015 05:10 PM (493sH)
I've never had a job where the men wear suits at their desks.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:11 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (NOIQH)
Thermoregulation is just a social construct. Like everything else.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:11 PM (oKE6c)
We don't necessarily LIKE the cold it's just that it doesn't affect us as quickly as you skeletons out there.
Eat some bacon and some chicken gravy why don't ya?
Live a little. Fat, skinny, tall, short, we're all going to wind up in the same place.
What if you live longer but it's as a drooling lump?
How many runners drop dead? Wishing they'd had a couple tasty meals before they went.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:11 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)
Depends on how she's wearing it, and around which appendage or body part it is wrapped. Visualization CAN be your friend, but you must defeat the Dark Side first . . .
Posted by: filbert at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (JvPqF)
"Your Daily Dose of Feminist Bitching"
you can get as much of that as you want at
http://theothermccain.com/
today's headline: "Feminists Are Raping Journalism"
Posted by: mallfly at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: ryukyu at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (j29PP)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (evdj2)
---
Even a simple trash can fire is cheery and improves esprit de corps. I'm always suggesting it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (/kI1Q)
OK, I've got your editorial strategery right here: shitcan all articles on race and identity. Oh, and also the entire race and identity team.
Also, whoever thought of doing in this first place.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:12 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:13 PM (oKE6c)
More workplace violence n' stuff. But sounds like no casualties.
[TRIGGER WARNING: auto-play video featuring Shep Smith.]
Posted by: Stu-22 at August 04, 2015 05:13 PM (vd4oB)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That
Eat me.
Posted by: Jim Fixx at August 04, 2015 05:13 PM (LAe3v)
yes I have one in my office -- skirts/dresses and open toed shoes without hose just don't provide the same warmth as a wool or wool blend suit and sock/shoe combo that men in my office wear. Who'd 'a thunk it?
Quit your bitching "ladies" -' cause you're ruining it for the rest of us who can actually handle having professional careers.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at August 04, 2015 05:13 PM (SrXsf)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (rfjjV)
Even a simple trash can fire is cheery and improves esprit de corps. I'm always suggesting it
*drags office chair over to Eris*
S'mores?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:11 PM (/kI1Q)
When I first got my office job we had to wear a suit. And the expense sucked. People complained so much they finally reduced it to a white shirt and tie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: tu3031 at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Paolo at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (evdj2)
-----------------
Or just open a womyn-only branch office somewhere warm and free of oppressive patriarchal air conditioning. Like Somalia. Enjoy, "ladies"!
Posted by: Stu-22 at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (vd4oB)
yes I have one in my office -- skirts/dresses and open toed shoes
without hose just don't provide the same warmth as a wool or wool blend
suit and sock/shoe combo that men in my office wear. Who'd 'a thunk it?
Quit your bitching "ladies" -' cause you're ruining it for the rest of us who can actually handle having professional careers.
But.....but......but.....that would mean that women's problems could stem from their own choices. Burn the heretic!!!!!
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (LAe3v)
by Jill Filipovic
Filipovic has been noted for her writing about beauty pageants, saying "the norms that these contests promote are unfortunately not ... obsolete ... we pay lip service to women's rights, but focus more on how good women look in a bathing suit".
[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nbyqq55
Would hit it and still admit it.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (kdS6q)
Force women to endure too much air conditioning. That's what.
#FineWithFeminists
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (I3RZp)
Duties would include cleaning The Barrel.
Pay would be all the partially-used pudding cups he/she/it could eat.
Posted by: filbert at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (evdj2)
A health and science writer for The New York Times, she was a member of The New York Times reporting team that received the 2015 Pulitzer Prize
No more damning indictment is possible.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (76M0e)
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 04, 2015 05:15 PM (OSs/l)
If there's a problem, point to the dress codes and ask who has more flexibility to deal with temperature levels in the office.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (f+6Pd)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (rfjjV)
Heh... they might not believe snakes. But mice, sure. Or spiders. Dames around here are deathly afraid of spiders.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (TOk1P)
----
When I started work in teh biz men still had to dress like it was IBM. Suit, coat, tie. You could take off the jacket and loosen the tie, but if you stepped outside the office to use the head you had to re-kit yourself. Then came the Great Geek Awakening.
Now we're grateful if they wear pants.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Heralder at August 04, 2015 05:16 PM (ECROs)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:09 PM (EgOr3)
Ha! Love ya, Peaches.
I swear this is why men were against women in the workplace to begin with.
'Now we'll have to listen to them complain at work, too?
Posted by: Garrett at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (85e8e)
Stacey already does that over at TheOtherMcCain.com
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (f+6Pd)
Internet rage mob activate!
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (IG5KL)
in my experience, women complain of being cold a lot.
Uhh, that's not what she meant when she said "Oh ace, you're so cold to me!"
*Duck and run*
Posted by: Weirddave at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (WvS3w)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (rfjjV)
"Yessir, nothing attracts spiders like a nice warm cozy room."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (oVJmc)
I mean, it's like some middle-aged housewives book club.
For four years.
And thousands of dollars.
The only parallel for men would be having a major in Grand Theft Auto.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (b65cm)
In summer.
We turned the AC up (down?) and the girls who were just there for some reason complained and complained and eventually started bringing in their winter coats.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (664w+)
BREAKING news / top story at WZ - shots fired from pickup truck at Ft. Shelby, Mississippi.
No injuries.
Posted by: Chi at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (yB0WD)
And I'm fine with that. Until they prove otherwise, they're all ladies who deserve special treatment.
My problem is that they claim equality and say we're being sexist if we disagree. You cannot have it both ways, no matter how much you stomp your adorable little foot, girls.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:18 PM (39g3+)
I doubt Margaret Thatcher ever showed up for work in a lacy chemise with a plunging neckline.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
More's the pity.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (JtwS4)
I, for one, welcome our multilingual overlord.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (WjXce)
Posted by: Kris Palemaker at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (2WTOn)
hehe
More foot fungus, athlete's foot, and whatever the men get down in their nether regions.
So they are arguing for smelly sweaty men.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (664w+)
Posted by: Paolo at August 04, 2015 05:20 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (x3GpS)
What's one more blog for Ace to put on the list of places to
Posted by: filbert at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Maserati at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (ZtFr+)
Tuition's too high
there's a victorian prudishness being instituted
they're kicking out any guy who doesn't return a phone call.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (664w+)
Thus
One day I will all my comments on the Reverse Google translation. Comments translate back and have to say I wanted to translate Korean or something.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)
Boy is she in for a surprise in 20 years or so. And not a pleasant one either.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 04, 2015 05:21 PM (wMP+e)
That said, I have been a frozen popsicle in my office for weeks. Thank god for space heaters.
Posted by: Lea at August 04, 2015 05:22 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Mindy at August 04, 2015 05:22 PM (dg8OI)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (1BQGO)
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"Qualified," you say? Would you let one clean YOUR toilet? Don't think they're equipped to do even that. And they'd probably leave you badly-written essays on why toilet brushes as symbols of phallic oppression.
Posted by: Stu-22 at August 04, 2015 05:22 PM (vd4oB)
The warmer, the more tired you get.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:22 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (OiH3z)
about putting up a blog post once a week to comment in italian, if
people would be interested in that.
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
Silly me, my first semester in kollage I took a 5 hour Italian course... dropped it like a hot potato after a few horrible weeks.
I think the little foooker who taught the course was Spanish, actually.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (TOk1P)
That's not just your experience, its every man's experience. Women are just set cooler on the thermostat. Men are warmer. More body hair, different internal system, who knows. What's comfortable to us is chilly to women. What's comfortable to us is warm to men.
The thing is: you can always put on a sweater, ladies. We can only get so naked.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (OSs/l)
That said, I have been a frozen popsicle in my office for weeks. Thank god for space heaters.
Posted by: Lea
***
It is funny, walking by some secretary's cubicles and feeling the heat wave of teh heater they keep churning.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (664w+)
Him and Solzhenitsyn did more than most in consigning Soviet communism to the ash heap of history.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (oFCZn)
18 >>>t was my understanding that women actually like it cooler than men because they have a layer of sub-cutaneous fat. Some, of course, have much more than others.
in my experience, women complain of being cold a lot.
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (dciA+)
Mine as well. And they complain about it being cold at around 75 degrees.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Garrett orders Coffee at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (85e8e)
Posted by: Paolo
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I want to put in a plug for Gullah, because I am fluent. If that won't fly, I think the neutral, non-divisive, non-triggering language would be Esperanto.
Actually, learning Esperanto might be quite useful. When conversing with Libs, should they insist on something else, then you can make an argument that they hate you (i.e., they are bigots) because of your all-inclusive language.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: MSM Central at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:19 PM (664w+)
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Guilty. What can I say? It's a gift.
Posted by: Mindy at August 04, 2015 05:24 PM (dg8OI)
I hear the cold slows the face eating spiders way down.
Or so I've heard.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:24 PM (x3GpS)
Was he named 'Senor Chang'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2015 05:24 PM (kivUY)
by the way i started learning italian. i'm thinking about putting up a
blog post once a week to comment in italian, if people would be
interested in that.
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
Sì.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 04, 2015 05:24 PM (OiH3z)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
yummy italian men
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:24 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2015 05:25 PM (kivUY)
Higher basal metabolic rate, and except for the female Shamu look-alikes, lower surface area/volume.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:25 PM (oKE6c)
Know why? I actually work in buildings full of women and to some degree THEY control the damn temp.
Director of maintenance and one thing I have to do is keep whining to a minimum. Almost without exception all of them want it 60-65 in the summer and 85 in the winter.
God the bellyaching I hear when its 70F in the building and 90+ outside with 100 humidity. I usually tell them to step outside for 5 min and tell me its hot again.
Posted by: gdonovan at August 04, 2015 05:26 PM (Ipxoj)
Posted by: Barack Obama, chin on hands at August 04, 2015 05:26 PM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:26 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:26 PM (evdj2)
Though, with all that fur, you could pass for Sicilian in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Garrett at August 04, 2015 05:26 PM (85e8e)
One day I will all my comments on the Reverse Google translation. Comments translate back and have to say I wanted to translate Korean or something.
Once you say something like that, you can never take it back.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (WjXce)
At every place I've ever worked, the thermostat is under the control of women of...a certain age, IYKWIMAITYD.
Flash...ah, ah...savior of the universe.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (b65cm)
75F? That's too warm for long sleeves.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (/kI1Q)
If we do an Italian thread I will describe the etymology and usage of "zitto e scopa" (said to a man) or "zitta e scopa" (to a woman).
Bestest Italian phrase ever.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2015 05:23 PM (z/Ubi)
heh
so true
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (qCMvj)
I bet the person who wrote the story knows the tweeter. So many stories seem to boil down to 'my NYC friends are doing this so it's a New Trend Sweeping the Country!'
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 05:06 PM (NOIQH)
You mean like those bridal party photos in their underwear is a major trend for weddings! Story
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2015 05:27 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
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Si si, mio piccolo Ewok. You'll have to promise to teach us some off-color phrases too.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (vd4oB)
But when they got to the workplace, they discovered they were just as miserable and frustrated, aimless and unhappy as before. So they blamed men for holding back some secret of the workplace. Never realizing that work is just miserable and aimless no matter who you are or where you work. Even if you're Derek Jeter that 148th game on the road against the Houston Astros is just not fun some days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (kivUY)
Girls from wealthy family's took art history and anthropology majors while they waiting around to marry money
Middle class people took out loans for their daughters to go to the same schools, who aspired to the same thing, and took the same majors
Without the pool of wealthy suiters.
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:29 PM (oQkpr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 05:29 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:29 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Harry Reid, The (alleged) Searchlight Strangler at August 04, 2015 05:29 PM (vd4oB)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:29 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (evdj2)
Keeping racks and racks of servers from failing due to their massive heat generation is a patriarchal carbonic conspiracy.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (EHU9F)
I think he needs a vacation. Turn off the computer, ditch the cell phone, go some place he enjoys, see the sights and read a lot of books if he has spare time.
The only person blogging whom I think needs a vacation possibly more is RS McCain. With all the articles about unbalanced feminists/lesbians I wonder he isn't gibbering on the floor somewhere, ,but apparently his wife gives his advice from Scripture like ".. whatever is true, honorable, etc think on these things.."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Fritz at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (evdj2)
Yeah, I think its part "neat, I'll write about this interesting thing I read" and part "woo cutting edge, look we're relevant kiddies, we're tapped into social medias!"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 04, 2015 05:31 PM (Ii765)
This. I cannot believe there were two articles about this without mentioning the 'change'.
Younger women are cold. Older women are hot. Men are fine. Ugh.
Posted by: Lea at August 04, 2015 05:31 PM (lIU4e)
He could call it Bitch, Puhleeze
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 05:31 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 05:31 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: We're practically paisans, si? at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 05:01 PM (evdj2)
Server rooms are different. When I worked in the server room, we kept spare coats around...
Posted by: Lea at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (lIU4e)
He's turned it into a personal crusade, which is useful for pointing out the crazy out there on the feminist side. Its a one-stop mall for all your "yeah? prove feminists are crazy!" needs but the guy is gonna burn out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (39g3+)
132 Anyone else notice that one young lady is pictured wearing a Redskins blanket?
Internet rage mob activate!
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (IG5KL)
Infected with smallpox virus, was it?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 04, 2015 05:32 PM (k5eO3)
It was miserable. So fuck off with the idea that offices need to be warmer
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 04, 2015 05:33 PM (IG5KL)
But when they got to the workplace, they discovered they were just as miserable and frustrated, aimless and unhappy as before. So they blamed men for holding back some secret of the workplace. Never realizing that work is just miserable and aimless no matter who you are or where you work. Even if you're Derek Jeter that 148th game on the road against the Houston Astros is just not fun some days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:28 PM (39g3+)
Yep. For the overwhelming majority of us, work just plain sucks. That whole "cursed be the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life" thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:33 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 04, 2015 05:33 PM (WjXce)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:33 PM (oQkpr)
aka, Tuesday in Texas.
Seriously, glad there were no injuries.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 05:34 PM (0ugVu)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 04, 2015 05:30 PM (EHU9F)
So everything comes down to racks. Again.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:34 PM (oKE6c)
Mi dispiace ma non posso restare. Buona notte.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 05:34 PM (JtwS4)
And when they get a lot older, they're cold again. I go once a year to a beach house with my mom and aunt, so they feel safer and its a nice vacation. They cook meals, I stand around looking menacing, I guess. There's some tradeoff I'm not understanding but I'm glad they think its there.
But they need the heater cranked up and I need the windows open for the sea breeze before I die of heat stroke.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (ODxAs)
Disaster.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (IPzoI)
If we just install some glass ceilings in the offices, everyone will be satisfied exactly as things are.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: AC at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (Vdwre)
It's not heat (although too much would be problematic) that causes server failure as much as large temperature fluctuations.
Keep a steady temp (even high if it's within the operating range) and you'll have no problems.
they use the cool side because of traffic in and out would cause problems if the room were on the warm side.
less traffic fewer problems.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:36 PM (IPzoI)
Yep. That's why it's called "work." If it were fun, you'd have to pay to do it.
As I used to tell students, "Cheer up. You won't be young and miserable forever."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:36 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:36 PM (qCMvj)
Put stoves in their cubicles. Toss in the occasional loaf of bread and package of Kraft Singles.
They'll figure it out.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:36 PM (oKE6c)
True. Then you get to be middle-aged and miserable. Then old and miserable. Then dead.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (oQkpr)
Trump gives our own phone number, making Lindsey look like a rank amateur.
Posted by: AC at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (Vdwre)Actually, Gawker did that. Trump just turned it into a win.
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (kivUY)
We just can't make them happy...
Posted by: Xennady at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (9N5tF)
*looks around office*
*turns thermostat down*
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (76M0e)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (0LHZx)
No kidding, just grab a toilet brush and hope for less foreign competition in the workplace.
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: AC at August 04, 2015 05:35 PM (Vdwre)
He was like a toreador standing holding the cape right in front of a brick wall while Gawker charged.
Almost too easy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (oKE6c)
Just received my order of green lime-flavored maraschino cherries (thank you Amazon) so I'm taking them for a test drive in an apple-tini.
Wanna increase productivity at work? I long for the days of three martini lunches, beer machines in the halls, and my chief keeping a bottle of scotch in his desk drawer.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (x3GpS)
It's more estetically pleasing for women to put on a sweater then have the guys parade around in shorts and wife-beaters.
Feminists need to stfu and consider that image.
Posted by: se pa moron at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (xQX/f)
Or choke to death because they're too idiotic to strip all the plastic off the bread, apparently.
I'm just waiting until the current college generation, raised on controlling the campus by rape and sexual harassment accusations and living on tribunals always assuming you're right gets to the work place.
Because in a sane world, nobody would hire them or keep them on if somehow they slipped past HR. But in this one? I fully expect big corporations to fire up the same no-rights-for-men tribunal system as colleges. They're pretty close already.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:40 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Fritz at August 04, 2015 05:40 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Northernlurker at August 04, 2015 05:40 PM (7MWjg)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:40 PM (rfjjV)
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 04, 2015 05:37 PM (rfjjV)
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Hot rackin'!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:40 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (kivUY)
Wasn't his name pretty generic, something like William Palmer? What's the over/under on how many William Palmers there are in the country? Even dentists with that name must number in the dozens.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:41 PM (oKE6c)
controlling the campus by rape and sexual harassment accusations and
living on tribunals always assuming you're right gets to the work place.
They're already in it. And they're showing up to work in baby-doll nighties.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: andycanuck
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They won't care, it's making the point that is important:
Pasha: The private life is dead - for a man with any manhood.
Zhivago: I saw some of your 'manhood' on the way at a place called Minsk.
Pasha: They were selling horses to the Whites.
Zhivago: It seems you've burnt the wrong village.
Pasha: They always say that, and what does it matter? A village betrays us, a village is burned. The point's made.
Zhivago: Your point - their village.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (NaeCR)
This presupposes sound judgment on the part of HR types, who are now increasingly Studies majors and SJWs themselves.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (oKE6c)
Where is that you work?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 04, 2015 05:42 PM (MYSVz)
Obviously these are not peri-menopausal or menopausal women, because it can NEVER be cold enough for me. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2015 05:43 PM (RWGcK)
living on tribunals always assuming you're right gets to the work place.
***
they're easy to ID, I imagine.
If you hire a chick that's 10 false rape accusations in on life, then you will lose your company.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:43 PM (664w+)
See?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 05:43 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (b65cm)
Once again: unless you're going for a very specific type of degree, college is not a glorified trade school. Treating college as a way to get a better job is idiotic and wasteful. Its like burning money to heat the house.
College is for an education, to help you become a better person, leader, and citizen. Liberal Arts degrees are not about earning money or getting a job, but being better at everything you do, including your job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (39g3+)
It never occurred to me to blame men for it.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: gdonovan at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (Ipxoj)
The rest of the GOP?
Take your pick; elmer fudd, Daffy duck, the Buzzards, Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote (yeah he never came up against Bugs but, you know) etc.
I want Trump as President cause he'll Troll The World.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (oQkpr)
So tell the bitching feminists - hey wait a few years - that AC will feel great when you're in the middle of a hot flash.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 05:46 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Summer Slam Soothsayer at August 04, 2015 05:46 PM (pPx0w)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 05:46 PM (xWW96)
THis is the other main office complaint about women: they want all the men to desire them, particularly that really hot exec with the corner office, but its sexual harassment if you seem to notice, especially that creepy guy that lost his stapler and mumbles about burning the place down.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (1CroS)
I hate you for saying that
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 05:47 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:47 PM (oQkpr)
she was a member of The New York Times reporting team that received the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting for coverage of the 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa
Meaning that she was the intern who booked the reporter's flight to Liberia.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 04, 2015 05:47 PM (egLDQ)
A fine purveyor of power systems for aerospace, marine, and energy sectors.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:47 PM (/kI1Q)
Yeah you have to, it becomes a war. And no matter how dire your warnings or angry you get, they'll still sneak over and adjust it. Like a parade, lining up to "fix" it after the last person did it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:48 PM (39g3+)
Just the ones who suck at their jobs, I've noticed.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:48 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Bruce Jennertailya at August 04, 2015 05:48 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Paolo the Wifebanger at August 04, 2015 05:17 PM (dciA+)
With Italian topics?
Say, The Comparison of Michelangelo's David to Scientology's Tom?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (39g3+)
__________
In theory that's true and it should work like that. But there is a bias in hiring that says people with majors X, Y and Z need not apply.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 05:43 PM (664w+)
I was hiring a new secretary when an HR wonk came in with a sheaf of resumes, including one from a Womyns' Studies major.
I shot him a look that said, "Really?"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (oKE6c)
What's the matter, their tattoos, their low self-esteem, and their contempt for conservatives and men are not enough to keep these "strong" and "independent" women warm?
Posted by: Summer Slam Soothsayer at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (pPx0w)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Adjoran at August 04, 2015 05:49 PM (QIQ6j)
Posted by: HR braucht
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Wait...., does the company name start with 'C'? Because they are big in Indiana.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 05:50 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Dusquene Whistler at August 04, 2015 05:50 PM (rVAo2)
Posted by: AC at August 04, 2015 05:50 PM (B2E6s)
Speaking of The Godfather, why hasn't some movie studio decided to make that the center of its own cinematic universe?
Show of hands -- How many of you want to experience the pathos of Fredo, the Lost Years in Las Vegas?
Or Schtupped by Sonny, Just Call Me 'Auntie' Pasto?
Yeah, I thought so.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 04, 2015 05:50 PM (k5eO3)
Posted by: Kelly Osbourne at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (HstNY)
I have locking covers on the a/c and heat. Everyone thinks turn them all the way UP or all the way DOWN.
Posted by: gdonovan at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (Ipxoj)Most of them (all that I've ever seen) have little plastic cages with slots that can easily accommodate any type of key with which one can push the lever to the desired temperature. Maybe you have fool-proof ones but, again, I've never seen one that I couldn't find a work-around for.
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (EgOr3)
And you are 100% right, Ace, about the difference between what today's feminists CLAIM they are, and what they actually are. They really do come off like they need their hands held and their well-being attended to by others. No independence, no equal footing, but catering to them.
Great post.
Posted by: acethepug at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (WK825)
Where will you work? For whom?
How many art history majors does the world require?
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (oQkpr)
Yeah, there's a definite correlation between slutty dress and incompetence at work.
And between slutty dress and idiot guys who let them get away with incompetence. Sure, she can't spell but I can look at her boobs down her top!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Gaia at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (IPzoI)
Is it sexism, or are they secretly lizard people who will one day kill us all like in "V"? Which is it, ladies?
Look, girls, I know you're cold but men are constantly silently enduring any number of things that women prefer. The computer networks have to stay cool, and a bunch of hot, uncomfortable males in a group setting is going to lead to fistfights
Posted by: UGAdawg at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (c+vBe)
Posted by: Gaia at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (/kI1Q)
Notice this coincides with "women should be able to go sleeveless" movement?
It's like they set themselves up for this one.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 05:52 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (39g3+)
Yeah. Guilty as charged
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (xWW96)
College is for an education, to help you become a better person, leader,
and citizen. Liberal Arts degrees are not about earning money or
getting a job, but being better at everything you do, including your
job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (39g3+)
I'd agree, as long as I'm not expected to foot the bill through student loans you don't pay back when you can't get a job, or artificially elevated salaries to make up for the fact that those who get those degrees tend to be women. IOW, if it's your money and not mine, knock yourself out.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: lindafell de Spair at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (xVgrA)
Now where is my government grant?
Posted by: RGallegos at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (fv5/b)
Posted by: @votermom at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (cbfNE)
College is for an education, to help you become a better person, leader, and citizen. Liberal Arts degrees are not about earning money or getting a job, but being better at everything you do, including your job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (39g3+)
I have to disagree. Liberal arts are things you should pursue on your own time, after an introduction in college to pique your interest. The classical liberal arts education was restricted solely to the wealthy and (in Europe) to the aristos, i.e., people who could afford to dabble in it.
But nowadays a college education should be directed to making you a productive member of society, which in 99% of cases means economically productive. Unless you're talented enough to make a living at it, or independently wealthy, read/write literature, philosophy, etc. on the side.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Peaches
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Bwahahahahahah
Do you folks actually believe that those thermostats actually DO something?
Really..., you crack me up.
Posted by: Industrial HVAC guy, secretely controlling the system at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 04, 2015 05:39 PM (XUKZU)
There are people in the world that you can afford to piss off, and then there are secretaries.
You must grovel, my friend, and do so quickly and convincingly.
Posted by: filbert at August 04, 2015 05:54 PM (JvPqF)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (oQkpr)
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I'd hire some with an art history degree if they were intelligent and could think on their feet. That is what a college degree should provide, an opportunity to explore new ideas, learn to think critically, etc.
But there's a bias out there that only STEM degrees mean anything. You hear this all the time by schools who make it seem like unless you want to be a physicist or an engineer, you're worthless to society.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:54 PM (0LHZx)
Ever see that idiot girl on those stupid Liberty Mutual insurance tv commercials?
"Newsflash!, insurance companies: Nobody's perfect."
You have to credit Liberty Mutual for outrightly targeting Dumb People who have no grasp whatsoever of how the World works.
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 04, 2015 05:54 PM (pPx0w)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 04, 2015 05:54 PM (jR7Wy)
I don't believe I could get a job these days even if they still did manufacturing anywhere.
All the hiring gets done by female HS college grads who think psych questions about "where do you see yourself in 5 years" can tell you who to hire to run that Bridgeport and crank out 5,000 parts a day.
Human Service departments are one of the reasons why we have a failing economy. The people who do the jobs aren't doing the hiring anymore. What college grad knows beans about working on a line somewhere?
Changing the trade rules might help a little but some drastic changes would have to be made in corporate culture for there to be any increases in jobs these days.
I'm pretty sure the only way we become a working nation again is either a world war or a civil war.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:55 PM (x3GpS)
It's like a sauna over here in sector 7G, you incompetent son-of-a-bitch.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 05:55 PM (/kI1Q)
Newsflash, everyone: Women complain. A lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 04, 2015 05:56 PM (pPx0w)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:44 PM (39g3+)
I once had a boss who went to Thomas Aquinas College in California - no majors, everyone reads and studies the Great Books, the classics of Western Civilization. He went on to Northwestern University Law school, but he said it was during his undergrad years that he really learned how to think. He loved TAC.
However, TAC and Great Books programs are rarities. English majors now are more likely to have read Toni Morrison and Alice Walker and a load of deconstructionists than Shakespeare and Chaucer.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 05:56 PM (u0lmX)
104 Here's the thing, though. If there are any problems of any kind in an office, the men will go to the woman who solves those problems for them and complain. Me, I would always just put the a/c where I liked it and, if anyone had a problem, I'd just tell 'em it was a building issue and there was nothing we could do about it. Duh! If one of them had ever figured out how to clear a paper jam in the copier, I would have worried but, of course, it never came to that.
Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2015 05:14 PM (EgOr3)
But peaches weren't you typically working I offices full of progressive lawyers? Of course they're not going to have the ability to figure out how to open up the copier to remove the paper.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2015 05:56 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: HR
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Well..., it seemed a good guess.
Anyhow, Clessie Cummin's autobiography was a terrific read. "My Days With the Diesel"
Probably more appealing to gearheads.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 05:57 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:55 PM (x3GpS)
I'm afraid that's the only way we'll ever become a sane nation again.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 04, 2015 05:57 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (oKE6c)
__________
What an awesome world it would be if everyone graduated with a STEM degree. Yeah!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 05:57 PM (0LHZx)
Newsflash, everyone: Women complain. A lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 04, 2015 05:56 PM (pPx0w)
And men let a lot of stuff slide.
Because, peace.
Posted by: Golfman at August 04, 2015 05:57 PM (48QDY)
We're expected to simultaneously believe that today's women are:
(a) Strong, brave, proud, indomitable Grrrrl Power warrior queens,
and
(b) Impossibly delicate, perpetually fragile princesses who will be permanently mentally shattered by exposure to the smallest sorts of "triggers" or "microaggressions".
If you point out that it's utterly incoherent to expect both of these things to be true at once, you will be accused of mansplaining and cisnormative heteropatriarchal discrimination.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (noWW6)
Oh man....I thought it was just me. I hate those gotdamn stupid-ass commercials.
Aarrghhh.....
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (IPzoI)
Well here's the thing. College isn't for everybody. In fact, its not for most people. Its not supposed to be. Its hard, specialized, and requires a certain kind of mind and scholarship mentality.
Classes that pander to trash like x-Studies are an abomination, they have nothing to do with an actual education. All they are is complaint reinforcement and a way to lie officially in a way that credulous students believe. Africans invented the airplane! Most famous people in the past were actually homosexual, or women! Its all just BS artists making a living off of students stupidity and the leftist guys in charge.
That's not what I was referring to in regards to a proper liberal arts education.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 05:51 PM (oQkpr
But I worked hard, er, well, sometimes; and you owe me a job because my FEELZ! And all that cat litter isn't free, you sexist bastard.
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (ueOgE)
Posted by: HR
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Bwahahahahah.
Yes, but utility bills will be lower, and management will love me for it. BONUS CITY, babe, bonus city....
Posted by: Industrial HVAC guy, secretely controlling the system at August 04, 2015 05:59 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Abby at August 04, 2015 05:59 PM (8wu51)
Because nothing says 'invaluable' like incessant bitching and moaning.
Posted by: se pa moron at August 04, 2015 05:59 PM (xQX/f)
But that's the point, isn't it? You'd hire anyone who was intelligent and could think on his feet. The question is determining which people fit that bill. Someone majoring Studies, sociology, or anthropology provides no evidence of that; my golden retriever could get a degree in one of those subjects.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 05:59 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 06:00 PM (oQkpr)
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
::: sniff :::
Posted by: Catastrophic Economic Collapse at August 04, 2015 06:00 PM (noWW6)
Where will you work? For whom?
How many art history majors does the world require?
Doesn't matter as long as they have a degree. They can work anywhere.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 06:00 PM (0ugVu)
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A lot of times the complaints are really just making conversation. I'm serious.
Men hear a woman comment on something and think "she wants me to fix ot."
A lot of times all the eoman wants us an acknowledgement / reaction.
"It's so cold in here."
"Is it? It's fine for me."
Whereupon tje woman is now free to tell you all sorts of personal.TMI stuff about how she's always cold, etc.
Posted by: @votermom at August 04, 2015 06:01 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 04, 2015 06:02 PM (oQkpr)
Because, you know how women are.
That massive wet 'thump' you just heard was the heads of all the gals over on Jezebel exploding like overripe tomatoes.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 06:02 PM (j1VIK)
slots that can easily accommodate any type of key with which one can
push the lever to the desired temperature. Maybe you have fool-proof
ones but, again, I've never seen one that I couldn't find a work-around
for."
Oh I have very good ones, retrofitted with postal grade unpickable locks when some smart ass found a key that would fit.
"Do you folks actually believe that those thermostats actually DO something?"
I have one location where I do just that. I can set the temp from the remote unit no matter what the t-stat is set for.
Posted by: gdonovan at August 04, 2015 06:02 PM (Ipxoj)
Posted by: The guy in charge of the thermostat that hangs out in the frozen food section of the grocery store at August 04, 2015 06:02 PM (48QDY)
However, TAC and Great Books programs are rarities. English majors now are more likely to have read Toni Morrison and Alice Walker and a load of deconstructionists than Shakespeare and Chaucer.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 05:56 PM (u0lmX)
Even as a science major, I read most of the Great Books in college, too, loved it, and in fact minored in literature.
The fact remains that at a minimum you need to come out of college with an employable skill. Anything else is gravy, but if all you have is the "anything else," you wasted your time and money.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:03 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:03 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)
Chicago columnist Mike Royke said he met plenty of undergrads who really would have better suited and more useful to laying bricks or slicing meat in a deli. But the idea that "everyone should go to college" meant that not only poor but deserving kids went, but also people who had no business. So a lot of bullshit majors were created.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:03 PM (u0lmX)
In my very first job, back last century when if I'd worn flip-flops to work the client would have sent me back to my employer who would have fired me, one of the middle-aged women who was giving me my tasks (and was fine to work for) told me about this story about some sensitivity training the whole company had received a few years previously that told the men not to treat the women engineers like they were "just" secretaries.
The department head's secretary got wind of it, called some other suit's secretary, and the HR person who approved this training was let go.
I had already known from hanging out in my dad's office a bit that when the secretary ain't happy, ain't nobody happy, but I still loved this story.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 06:04 PM (/kI1Q)
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I just got my new Accord, $36,000. Then, I smashed into a utility pole.
I only had it a week, but I'm sure it was worth just as much as I paid for it. I mean there may have been some tax, title, transfer, license fees, loan initiation, and stuff like that..., and sure it's now a used car, but why shouldn't I get what I paid for it?
Posted by: Idiot at August 04, 2015 06:04 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 05:38 PM (x3GpS)
Heh. Well, I thought it was amusing. I've never been stationed inside of a well-engineered, modern datacenter but, rather, sealed labs comprising hodgepodges of rackmount servers, workstations, and miscellaneous equipment all running simultaneously with differing power requirements.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 04, 2015 06:04 PM (EHU9F)
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 04, 2015 05:54 PM (pPx0w)
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Yeah, I like the middle-aged guy who is astounded, ASTOUNDED, that a new car depreciates in value the minute you drive it off the lot.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 04, 2015 06:04 PM (cN9Sk)
Bwahahahahahah
Do you folks actually believe that those thermostats actually DO something?
Really..., you crack me up.
Posted by: Industrial HVAC guy, secretely controlling the system at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (9mTYi)
Another reason this a BS story - I recently turned over a building, offered training for the DDC (HVAC controls), the building manager was not interested, even AFTER I told her should could control the temperature of any room IF she took the training, took include messing with the boss's office temp...That was one woman, there are many more, that just liked to bitch about the temp even though it was her job to control it.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (KCxzN)
Aw geez......here we go again.
BBL.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (IPzoI)
Dood, what makes you think I'd lower myself to get a Studies, sociology or anthropology degree???? I'd rather eat poop and lick my testicles.
Now get me some Beggin' Strips, woof?
Posted by: Guevara's Golden Retriever at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (egLDQ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)
I know, but as I said, that proper liberal arts education is for the wealthy and the aristos, i.e., people who don't have to make a living. There's no point in having baristas who can quote Chaucer.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (oKE6c)
You have to credit Liberty Mutual for outrightly targeting Dumb People who have no grasp whatsoever of how the World works.
You'd think they'd be thanking me
-- TFG
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (k5eO3)
an employable skill. Anything else is gravy, but if all you have is the
"anything else," you wasted your time and money.
Being able to write a coherent, grammatical sentence is a skill for which employers will pay. Unfortunately, it's a skill many college graduates lack. The trick is to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 06:06 PM (LAe3v)
To be fair, the sports farms a lot of major universities became had an impact as well. Biff Biceps in the defensive line needs a degree he can do in order to qualify for NCAA play.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:06 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: X at August 04, 2015 06:06 PM (xGNLA)
And you'd be better off, because you can do that for free.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 06:07 PM (/kI1Q)
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
::: sniff :::
Posted by: Catastrophic Economic Collapse at August 04, 2015 06:00 PM (noWW6)
No, no, don't cry, CEC, you're good. You'll go first, then one of the other two--hell, maybe both!--will follow.
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:07 PM (ueOgE)
Posted by: Yo! at August 04, 2015 06:08 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: Golfman at August 04, 2015 06:09 PM (48QDY)
It was assumed that if you got into college you somehow had managed to become literate in High School.
Sadly it's gotten so bad that Colleges have for years run remedial programs just to bring students up to 9th grad levels so they could possibly learn something in College.
I think with all the illegals dragging the school down and the expense that things have gotten worse.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 06:09 PM (x3GpS)
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Some here thought I was joking about the thermostat not doing anything.
Moreover, in some 'Smart' HVAC systems, the temperature displayed by the thermostat is not determined locally, but by the central controller. And you can be damned certain that turning the thermostat up or down does not directly cause heating or cooling. That decision will be made by the central controller.
Posted by: Idiot at August 04, 2015 06:09 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)
This is true. Perhaps 10% of the population really has any business in a proper university (in the UK it used to be the top 6% of secondary school students). Most people would be just fine with a high school diploma if the high schools do their job properly.
Now with this "everybody should go to college" nonsense we've got the bar pretty much resting on the floor, and LOTS of people who have no business being in college just partying, farting around, and wasting everybody's time and money before taking up a job they could have done just as well with a high school diploma.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:10 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:05 PM (oKE6c)
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But it doesn't have to be like that. Friend of mine from college majored in philosophy and his first job out of college was with Price Waterhouse (before Coopers/Lybrant). In fact when places like Boston Consulting and McKinsey were recruiting they sometimes specifically said no business majors or MBAs need apply. They wanted the well rounded candidates, not accounting majors. My brother majored majored in about the most "useless" major, music history, and today he's an exec at a financial services.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:10 PM (0LHZx)
Well there is, but there's no point in them paying 50 grand a year to get that education. Most folks shouldn't go to college, bottom line. Its not for everyone, and it shouldn't be.
One of the worst, stupidest lies told to and repeated by minorities is that if only they can get into college, their lives will be great. See all those college boys with 7 figure incomes and the Maybach in the garage?
The problem is, its mistaking cause and effect, and assuming that college is some magical talisman that fixes everything. If you're not college material, all the grants in the world aren't gonna land you that hedge fund job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:10 PM (39g3+)
It's their reptilian nature. A "sleestak" if you will.
If you were married, you know that a woman's main drives are (1) spending other peoples money and (2) destroying other peoples happiness. It makes them feel -- empowered. At least for a little while.
Posted by: Casual Observer at August 04, 2015 06:10 PM (YnexC)
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
::: sniff :::
Posted by: Catastrophic Economic Collapse at August 04, 2015 06:00 PM (noWW6)
***
Sorry, CEC, wars end. People can live in grass huts for centuries
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 06:11 PM (664w+)
Aw geez......here we go again."
Some truth to that when you're talking about the east coast, where people are weirdly obsessed with Ivy League degrees and feel inferior if they don't have one. The snobby old money caste system is still prevalent there. Not true in the Midwest.
After your first few jobs out of school, nobody gives a shit about your college. They're looking at your job performance.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:11 PM (u0lmX)
A typical conversation in the car will see her asking if I'm hot. I say "no I have the air conditioning on."
I'm also wondering that since warm air rises Atc must be constantly cold since the top of her head will never quite reach the warm air b
Posted by: Northernlurker at August 04, 2015 06:12 PM (7MWjg)
It was actually on this blog that the dirty secret was revealed to me.
It was when the supreme court decided that you couldn't hire and promote people based on tests at work because of teh racism. So companies said 'well okay, we'll just let colleges weed them out then' and suddenly what was once a small number became a large number, because now every job wanted a degree - didn't matter what kind, just a degree - to get hired or promoted.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)
The real reason? The Supreme Court throwing out employer-based testing owing to "disparate impact." Employers couldn't administer IQ or any other tests, and so now use a college degree as a screening mechanism that in essence says, "I can show up reliably, follow instructions to some extent, and am more or less socialized."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:12 PM (oKE6c)
After your first few jobs out of school, nobody gives a shit about your college. They're looking at your job performance.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:11 PM (u0lmX)
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First job is the most important job. It sets the course for the entire career. And sorry to break it to you but school still matters, long after the job. Do you think it's a coincidence 80% of employees at Goldman went to one of 10 schools?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:13 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:13 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at August 04, 2015 06:13 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Yo! at August 04, 2015 06:14 PM (W6iIX)
them around the other 23 hours and 40 minutes.
Except maybe to clean up and leave.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 04, 2015 06:14 PM (JG47A)
Yet without a degree, even after 26 years, I can even get looked at for certain jobs.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 06:15 PM (0ugVu)
Sez you. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted a soupcon of "The Canterbury Tales" with my ventilated grande.
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 06:15 PM (LAe3v)
I mean seriously, the one smart thing Hillary Clinton actually said during the 2008 election season is that "rich" is largely defined by where you live. $50,000 a year can be poverty level in Manhattan or wealthy in Scio, Oregon.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:16 PM (39g3+)
so as far as ATC, she has to wear those stompy boots just to keep her toesies and kneesies warm.
However due to the shorter length her heart has to push blood back up, she'll live longer. she'll just be cold all that time.
I'd buy some drywall jacks if I was her.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 06:16 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 04, 2015 06:16 PM (Dwehj)
The problem is, its mistaking cause and effect, and assuming that college is some magical talisman that fixes everything. If you're not college material, all the grants in the world aren't gonna land you that hedge fund job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:10 PM (39g3+)
Absolutely right. It's an academic cargo cult. Just like moving ghetto denizens middle class trappings will suddenly make them middle class. Both confuse effect with cause.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:16 PM (oKE6c)
Interesting that she said 'burrito'...racist, am I right? Why not cannoli? or some other analogy? 'Pig in a blanket' perhaps? But burrito? Like totally raycist.
Posted by: Badda Bing at August 04, 2015 06:17 PM (/Vs1e)
Do some grads from Never Heard of it State U make $100K first year out? Sure.
But when aggregating the data you see that the median or average, which ever you want to use, income 10 years out is significantly higher for grads of elite schools. And this holds across majors, regions, sex, race, whatever.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:17 PM (0LHZx)
Do you folks actually believe that those thermostats actually DO something?
Really..., you crack me up.
Posted by: Industrial HVAC guy, secretely controlling the system at August 04, 2015 05:53 PM (9mTYi)
True story: I once worked in a brand new building, cost $15 million dollars, with a state of the art, computer-controlled HVAC system. Middle of the summer, it's 53F downstairs on a day when it's 90F outside. Call the repair people, they futz around a while, can't fix it. I ask the guy, what's the problem? He says he'll tell me, if I don't tell anybody else (I know I can count on you Morons to keep the secret, right?). He says the computer program's buggy as hell, doesn't work and never will, and half the servo-controlled dampers in the air-handling system were installed backwards. You'd have to basically gut the building to fix the system. So I just took a coat to work every day. Same damned building, there was a water drain nobody hooked up to a drain line, somebody used the drain of course, ceiling tiles came crashing down with water pouring out. Plumber was like, "Yep, there's yer problem."
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:18 PM (ueOgE)
Wht R U sayin?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:18 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 06:18 PM (xWW96)
However due to the shorter length her heart has to push blood back up, she'll live longer. she'll just be cold all that time.
I'd buy some drywall jacks if I was her.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 06:16 PM (x3GpS)
There's a joke about The Rack and headlights in there somewhere.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 04, 2015 06:18 PM (OiH3z)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (ETL1K)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)
Yes, the Supreme's upheld a lawsuit ruling against Duke Energy in NC. Duke was charged with racsim in requiring employees be able to read and understand an employment test that the plaintiffs were able to get the court agree was racially bias. In other words, it was written at a level that was determined to be beyond the educational grasp of most black high school grads( see where the soft bigotry of low expectations comes from?).
So instead of looking at the problem for what it was, minorities were not being educated due to a host of problems, the SC mandated that one can no longer test candidates for a job or position with the company. So the companies, out of desperation, started relying on college degrees as a way of hopefully acquiring candidates who can read and write and possibly have enough technical skills through four years of college education that they might be able to understand a safety manual or read technical language enough to know how to operate something.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (YP6Ap)
...but if he didn't have an Ivy League education, he was worthless. WORTHLESS!
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (/kI1Q)
A lot of times the complaints are really just making conversation. I'm serious.
I totally get this. This is how woman communicate -- they convey to you how they feel and observe how you (the man) responds.
Men communicate more straightforwardly. Or men bring up topics, such as sports or the weather, to "feel" you out.
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (pPx0w)
Well, there was that one time: https://youtu.be/z6MoXogMgl4 (sfw)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (xWW96)
I know. Due to experience and being an insatiable reader, I probably have the equivalent of a Bachelor's and with a dissertation or two and an oral, I could possible get a Masters.
Trouble is, in what? I'm very eclectic in subjects I've studied and I've worked a lot of different jobs and was always promoted within because of my abilities.
Jack of all trades and Master of One; Curiosity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Fletch at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (AKkbq)
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:18 PM (ueOgE)
Ah, the Thresher dipsy-doodle.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:22 PM (oKE6c)
"Frst job is the most important job. It sets the course for the entire career. And sorry to break it to you but school still matters, long after the job. Do you think it's a coincidence 80% of employees at Goldman went to one of 10 schools?"
Oh, i know about old boy networks. But I'm not talking about being a member of the East Coast elite, but a middle- to upper middle class person in flyover country. I know plenty of people here who fit into that category and they are state and small college grads. The wealthiest man I know is my brother-in-laws son by his first marriage and he didn't even graduate from college - he left and started his own business.
That's because, away from the snobbish east coast, America is - or was - the land of opportunity and you didn't need an Ivy League degree to take advantage of it.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:22 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 04, 2015 06:22 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:22 PM (39g3+)
"I squawk, therefore I am." - stuff Descartes didn't say
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 06:23 PM (oKE6c)
So offices have the same effect on wimmens as marriage.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (ETL1K)
TREAD WINNER!
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 04, 2015 06:24 PM (0FSuD)
Women would be a lot happier if they learned about men earlier. The reverse is true as well of course.
But it seems like most of the complaints and upset women get into is because they figure men are just like them and misinterpret everything badly.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 06:24 PM (39g3+)
390 Plumber was like, "Yep, there's yer problem."
...but if he didn't have an Ivy League education, he was worthless. WORTHLESS!
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 06:20 PM (/kI1Q)
How many Harvahd grads does it take to properly attach a drainpipe?
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:25 PM (ueOgE)
Nobody could possibly be as worthless as Moo Moo.
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (xWW96)
Wait a fcuking minute here.
Posted by: Palin Steele at August 04, 2015 06:25 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 04, 2015 06:26 PM (Sda6L)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Battleboro at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: pep at August 04, 2015 06:15 PM (LAe3v)
One of the horde wrote a Moron's version of the first few verses of the Canterbury Tales which hit all the high notes - ewoks, hobo-hunting, lace wigs. It was epic.
I'm so sorry I didn't save it.
See- that's why you need the liberal arts.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Palin Steele at August 04, 2015
I add value you know
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Battleboro at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (W6iIX)
You all miss us right?
Posted by: Erg at August 04, 2015 06:28 PM (0FSuD)
Men were fine, women were dressed like we were going on an artic expedition.
Don't know why.
Also, I liked it cold. I agree that it makes me more productive.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 04, 2015 06:28 PM (AkOaV)
That ridiculous assertion will come as a surprise to the Russians who agreed to unannounced visits at any time by American inspectors in the Reagan era. Or the Libyans who agreed to IAEA inspections with no notice during the Bush 2 era.
I know you'll be shocked by this, but I think Josh Earnest is umm....lying.
Posted by: MTF at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (QvAgz)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (oFCZn)
Since when did Trump become pro-life?
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:22 PM (u0lmX)
_________
Yep. And Bill Gates and Michael Dell both dropped out of college and they're billionaires. About as relevant to the discussion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: B_L_A_Z_E_R_ at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 06:21 PM (xWW96)
Them's fightin' words.
Posted by: poon at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (EHU9F)
Posted by: Christoph from Frozen at August 04, 2015 06:30 PM (awspb)
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (u0lmX)
I think last week?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 04, 2015 06:30 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 04, 2015 06:30 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Yo! at August 04, 2015 06:31 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM (oFCZn)
Why, we'd never do such a thing! We need to spend our effort on what's truly important. Things like, reaching across the aisle, governing, cocktail parties, long vacations, laughing at the rubes, and getting asked on the best Sunday morning news shows.
Posted by: John Boehner and Mitch McConnell at August 04, 2015 06:31 PM (ueOgE)
Missing from this list: Never Heard of It State U
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:32 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo
Don't thank me. Thank my life coach Paolo.
Posted by: Benoit at August 04, 2015 06:32 PM (awspb)
---
Shut it down as his first act as president. Renegotiate a 40% cut before re-opening.
Posted by: AC at August 04, 2015 06:32 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 06:32 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: MTF at August 04, 2015 06:29 PM (QvAgz)
Well, what to you expect when we have a president named Barack Hussein Obama who has press secretary named "Josh" "Earnest"?
Posted by: Golfman at August 04, 2015 06:33 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 04, 2015 06:34 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: UGAdawg at August 04, 2015 06:35 PM (c+vBe)
Posted by: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Peter Jennings, Mary Kay, Scott Walker, Henry Ford, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 06:38 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: MTF
---------------
I still can't sleep at night..., it..., it was all just too much. The lies, the constant lies.
Posted by: Carny at August 04, 2015 06:40 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Peter Jennings, Mary Kay, Scott Walker, Henry Ford, etc., etc
You want whip cream on that?
Posted by: Starbuck's barrista with a masters in GenderQueer Studies at August 04, 2015 06:40 PM (awspb)
If a) she might be iron deficient
If b) she might have a low thyroid function
Posted by: @votermom at August 04, 2015 06:41 PM (cbfNE)
http://is.gd/8OzIyS
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 06:41 PM (/kI1Q)
23 of 26 years in the same department. Customer Service. Fortune 500 company. CS Rep in this company could manage a CS department at other companies by how much responsibility/control they have. No degree, no chance. So I'm stuck in "support".
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 06:42 PM (0ugVu)
Posted by: Clarney at August 04, 2015 06:42 PM (dgO4h)
I know 2 Harvard guys. One ended up as a bank teller. And he stayed a bank teller. Didn't want the stress of even a middle management job. They used to show him off at the branch. "See! There's our Harvard bank teller!"
The other was my high school class president. Football player, National Honor Society, the whole deal. He's doing federal time for running a Ponzi scheme. Ripped off his family, his friends, pretty much everybody he knew.
Ruined people.
So I never thought much of Harvard degrees.
Posted by: tu3031 at August 04, 2015 06:42 PM (YFFpo)
But I also know people who have done well for themselves in the corporate world, hold six-figure jobs, have nice homes in nice suburbs, etc - and they went to state schools.
Ivy degree degrees are not that common out here. In the mid West people don't have your snobbish reaction to state schools. Don't project your narrow (and narrow-minded) experience onto other parts of the country. There's a reason nobody here (not even the left) made a huge stink about Walker's lack of a BA - nobody cared that much. They were interested in his work record.
And duh, Moo, of course the Ivies are more important on the East Coast and the cost of living is also higher there and the pay scales are subsequently higher as well - so people with Ivy League degrees make more money. Again, $100,000 a year on the coasts is different than $100,000 in Kansas.
I don't have automatic respect for someone who went to an Ivy League. Why should I? Shits like you and Obama went to them.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:42 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Carny at August 04, 2015 06:40 PM (9mTYi)
Oh, for cryin' out loud, boy! Nut up! I've been doing it my entire adult life, and I ain't nowhere's tahrd.
Posted by: Hillary! at August 04, 2015 06:43 PM (ueOgE)
Last I heard about 62 f'ing degrees being too hot.
It's about control. She wanted control, I was willing to surrender that control and make her life miserable in return.
I called her bluff. Doesn't happen enough in today's society.
Posted by: se pa moron at August 04, 2015 06:43 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Clarney at August 04, 2015 06:43 PM (dgO4h)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 06:45 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: tu3031 at August 04, 2015 06:42 PM (YFFpo)
Damn. And the Harvard-ites are a hell of a lot better than the Yalies. Never known a nice Yalie, but have known a few decent Harvard-ites.
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:45 PM (ueOgE)
Posted by: se pa moron at August 04, 2015 06:43 PM (xQX/f)
Was the car seat comfy that night?
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 06:46 PM (ueOgE)
Posted by: Clarney at August 04, 2015 06:46 PM (dgO4h)
I finally managed to convince her during the winter that just because she 'felt' cold, did not mean that it actually *was* cold. It took a host of thermometers spread around to do that.
It's winter, dammit, you can't go around in shorts and a t-shirt and complain about the temperature. Put on slacks and a sweater.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 06:49 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 06:49 PM (u0lmX)
college degree, most of the dumbest people I've ever met have a college
degree"?
Uh, that would have been me.
Posted by: Zombie Cecil at August 04, 2015 06:50 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Clarney at August 04, 2015 06:46 PM (dgO4h)
I had a saying back in the early 1990s that some of the brightest idiots I've met had a college degree.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 06:52 PM (oFCZn)
I think we just discovered how Too Big To Fail just happened.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 04, 2015 06:53 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Zombie Cecil at August 04, 2015 06:54 PM (Dwehj)
Nope. She knows when I resort to the 'sign this' bit I'm gonna win the argument.
My 'Trump' card argument when she is so totally wrong. Women folk don't like to see their wrongness in writing, complete with signature.
Posted by: se pa moron at August 04, 2015 06:59 PM (xQX/f)
In a just world, they'd be cleaning toilets. For field laborers. After Taco Bell Big Burrito Banquet night. Without brushes.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 04, 2015 07:02 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Battleboro at August 04, 2015 06:27 PM
(W6iIX)
Hey, don't forget me!
Posted by: Hector at August 04, 2015 07:11 PM (j1VIK)
I finally managed to convince her during the winter that just because she 'felt' cold, did not mean that it actually *was* cold. It took a host of thermometers spread around to do that.
It's winter, dammit, you can't go around in shorts and a t-shirt and complain about the temperature. Put on slacks and a sweater.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 04, 2015 06:49 PM (9mTYi)
Ha! Yeah, don't I know it. Mrs. Muse's internal thermostat has two settings, "too hot" and "too cold".
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 07:14 PM (j1VIK)
Posted by: rebel flounder at August 04, 2015 07:42 PM (Vf5rR)
Posted by: citizen 349567812 at August 04, 2015 07:47 PM (LPHFE)
Posted by: Xavier at August 04, 2015 07:53 PM (9iJcH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 04, 2015 08:27 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Scout at August 04, 2015 10:35 PM (DLUnW)
Posted by: Glowing platinum wire at August 04, 2015 10:52 PM (9mTYi)
Personally, I've got a low metabolism, and it gets lower in the winter. Sweaters don't really help, because I just get colder and colder even when I'm wearing long johns, an undershirt, and two or three layers of turtleneck, sweater, and blankets. (Which I do.) Fingerless gloves help, but not quite enough; any exposed skin is cold. Most offices forbid wearing hats or hoods, so that's out.
Hot showers, hot drinks, sunlight lamps, and electric blankets help. Also, it's a good idea not to mess around trying to gut it out when the temperature drops in the fall, because that's what "trains" my metabolism that it's winter and I should go into dormancy mode, along with the lack of sunlight.
In the spring and summer, I have no problem dealing with fifty and sixty degree temps, so I suspect it really is tied to seasonal changes. But A/C can still easily freeze my butt off, which is why I dress warm to go to the movie theater.
Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at August 05, 2015 07:53 AM (ZJVQ5)
I worked in an office with menopausal women. The temperature changes were like a cold front passing through once per hour.
Posted by: Michael Haz at August 05, 2015 09:06 AM (APCKW)
I'm ok with upping the temperature of the office, but the gals have to show up in bikinis. OK, not that fattie - she stays in a sweater-pantsuits.
Posted by: Male Chauvanist Perfectionist at August 05, 2015 11:32 AM (yTnTP)
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