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5th Planned Parenthood Video Drops: "We Can Get Creative" About What Procedures We Employ When We're Hunting Human Tissue

Gee, this sure sounds like a violation of federal law, which states that abortionists can never alter abortion procedures for tissue-hunting purposes.

But this fine citizen says they can get "creative" with that stricture.

Farrell also allegedly tells two actors posing as tissue buyers that Planned Parenthood can "get creative about when and where, and under what conditions can we interject something that is specific to the tissue procurement needs."


Posted by: Ace at 11:42 AM




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1 The horror, the horror..

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 11:44 AM (evdj2)

2 brave new world

Posted by: brak at August 04, 2015 11:45 AM (Tj+s6)

3 God damned motherfucking priests of God damned motherfucking Moloch.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 11:45 AM (kff5f)

4 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 11:45 AM (kff5f)

5
So we have it on tape that women are being treated as living, breathing incubators. Macabre and dystopian. For their own good, I'm sure.

Posted by: f2000 at August 04, 2015 11:45 AM (5xwgn)

6 And suddenly I'm glad I've got an hour-and-a-half long meeting to go to...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 11:46 AM (kff5f)

7 94 percent of women who go to PP pregnant leave without their child.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (fWAjv)

8 Each video is worse than the previous. At this rate, by #8, the PP representative will be offering black baby liver on a cracker.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (evdj2)

9 Demons.

Posted by: Dang at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (2oWD2)

10 And I skipped the vote!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (FhT/k)

11 For Sale: Intact fetus, great for parts, not running. Best Offer.

Posted by: wendy davis at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (Z8BWe)

12 Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL), from the comfortable enclaves of northern Chicago, voted against de-funding PP.

Miss Lindsey was absent, probably reading Hemingway while drinking a tisane.

Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN) was wavering but voted pro-life, which makes me nod in approval, but he's still an Obama squish and deserves another job.

Posted by: Feh at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (G4d43)

13 A Tray Too Far

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2015 11:48 AM (JO9+V)

14 Just wanted to cry.... Made Me sick watching them pick through the pieces of what was earlier a human baby.....The tiny feet and arm was too much for Me...

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 11:48 AM (hUdMz)

15 ENTRAPMENT

FAKE VIDEO

4th AMENDMENT

COUNTERSUIT

DEFAMATION


It'll never survive in court. We'll chop it to pieces.

Posted by: A Buncha FKN Lawyers at August 04, 2015 11:48 AM (1+7D3)

16 Pretty surreal to hear Harry Reid say yesterday on the Senate floor that Republicans have lost their moral compass for wanting to defund PP. It would be nice to see Republicans sack up on this issue, the public is disgusted by what PP has been caught doing.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 11:48 AM (OGm46)

17 If this seems like an all out assault on women's health, that's because it is.

That's what Hillary Clinton says.

Posted by: blaster at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (2Ocf1)

18 They Were Expendable

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (JO9+V)

19 This is a distraction from the real issues, a ploy by democrats to make us look like Todd Akin!

Posted by: An actual comment on AoS at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (FhT/k)

20 These inhuman bastards need to fry in hell for this.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (wtvvX)

21 I reiterate my statement. I will support the candidate who filibusters every debate question with an appeal to defund PP.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (gmeXX)

22 #BabyLiversMatter

Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 04, 2015 11:49 AM (/Ho8c)

23 We have already established that PP employees are ghouls, dismembering the dead for profit.

The rest is just additional confirmation. (But is necessary, and good work).



Posted by: West at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (1Rgee)

24 Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN) was wavering but voted pro-life, which makes me
nod in approval, but he's still an Obama squish and deserves another
job.


Eh, his vote wasn't "pro-life" as much as "how dare they be corrupt when I'm not in on it."

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (/kI1Q)

25 In before moo moo

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (wtvvX)

26 In Harm's Way

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (JO9+V)

27 Why yes, we have consumed the flesh on occasion.

Posted by: PP video 10 at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (FhT/k)

28 Meanwhile, the few libs that I still manage cordial relationships with (largely because they're family) are losing thier minds defending this.

They swear it's all fake.

I really actively pray for SMOD/Yellowstone Caldera at this point.

We deserve it.

Posted by: Cranky J Anne at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (5rbdR)

29 Parts is parts.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 04, 2015 11:50 AM (QM5S2)

30 Republicans sack up????


hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (GpgJl)

31 These inhuman bastards need to fry in hell for this.

I'm not worried about that. I'm very Fred Phelps on my feelings toward abortionists.

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (O7MnT)

32 "by creative, we just meant the music we play and how we dance about interpretively while killing babies"
-PP spokesman

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (39g3+)

33 May these fucks all burn in hell.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (OiH3z)

34 I thought they were ordered not to release new videos, or was that just those involving that particular research buyer?

Posted by: pashmr at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (3aNC4)

35 You Socons and your abortion talk are making us lose elections!

Posted by: Akin/HuckaMoo at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (1+7D3)

36 Fucking monsters.

And the GOP can't even bother to pretend they will stop funding this.

The fucking GOP is a worse enemy to America than the Democrats.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (ZvKdv)

37 Gee thanks Ace, now I'm hungry

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (tgORI)

38 From Here To Eternity


(may these PP ghouls roast in hell for an eternity)

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (JO9+V)

39 I watched the last one. Can't do it again. I just can't.

Posted by: DangerGirl at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (L6lkG)

40 A certain "unserious" candidate has just come out in favor of shutting down the government over Murder Inc. funding calling it disgraceful.

I'm liking the cut of that mans jib more and more.


Also if the GOP can't effectively explain why this is bad and use it to hammer the Dems then they should really just fold up the tents.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (JbETL)

41 34 I thought they were ordered not to release new videos, or was that just those involving that particular research buyer?

It was a particular "buyer "

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (hUdMz)

42 The Nazis pulling gold teeth from murdered Jews.

Posted by: Dang at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (2oWD2)

43 They swear it's all fake.

Look, anyone with a conscience has a very limited range of choices here when confronted with this:

1) Its evil and must stop, Planned Parenthood is ghastly
2) It must be all some clever trick and none of it is actually true
3) Change the channel, I don't want to look.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+)

44 "Surreal" doesn't begin to describe it. Harry Reid's attempt to invert the moral scale can only be described as evil.

It's like saying "those perfidious Jews, protesting efficient rail transportation!"

Posted by: Feh at August 04, 2015 11:52 AM (G4d43)

45 At this point, release them all an orgy of blood, violence and terror.

Leave PP and its supporters reeling.

Fucking ghouls.

Posted by: Cranky J Anne at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (5rbdR)

46 Yep:

"Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many many years," explains Farrell. When researchers need a specific part from the aborted fetus, Farrell says, "We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that."

Asked specifically if this means Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast can change abortion procedures to supply intact fetal specimens, Farrell affirms, "Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they're collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen."


Funny, never heard PP described as a research organization, nor as a tissue donation center. Yet here is a PP Houston staffer talking like itis a center for scientific research. They arrange their donations to go to a local university, IIRC.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH)

47 I thought they were ordered not to release new videos, or was that just those involving that particular research buyer?


Posted by: pashmr at August 04, 2015 11:51 AM (3aNC4)


I think that was due to CA law on recording. This one was in TX so no such laws. Still fucking disgusting though.

Posted by: Timon at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (ZDJwC)

48 Pretty surreal to hear Harry Reid say yesterday on the Senate floor that Republicans have lost their moral compass for wanting to defund PP.

I hope the next time the mafia kicks his ass for being a sniveling twerp, they dismember him and sell him as tissue.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (FhT/k)

49 We were for kids before we were against them.

Posted by: Jeanne Shaheen, Babs Boxer and Claire McAskill at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (Z8BWe)

50 #Cecil

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (QM5S2)

51
40
A certain "unserious" candidate has just come out in favor of shutting
down the government over Murder Inc. funding calling it disgraceful.


What a clown.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (1+7D3)

52 Women's health!

Thank God for CMP. These videos show what a lie the health argument is. These ghouls care not one whit about the health of women. It's all about the child sacrifice and the Benjamins.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (KkVB6)

53 Going to call my congressmen.

Posted by: Dang at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (2oWD2)

54

I suppose they thought they could shut down debate by threatening the video makers via the courts.

Then we see Hillary walking back her "disgusting" comments.

Like everything is okay, the GOP is just up to their War On Women's Health BS.

Nothing to see here.

I've just come back online, so I'm not sure how they were able to release this one, but, good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (qCMvj)

55 If this seems like an all out assault on women's health, that's because it is.

I'm just going to paste this in from the last thread. tl/dr: Obamacare has made Planned Parenthood obsolete:

And they can STFU about that "low-cost pills!" crap, too. Every
legally-resident female who walks in their door is legally required to
have purchased an Obamacare policy that is legally required to give them
pills with no co-pay. So, thanks to Obama, Planned Parenthood is wholly
unnecessary because the government already covers what they do.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (/kI1Q)

56 "Donald Trump says that he supports shutting down the government to defund Planned Parenthood in the wake of a series of controversial undercover videos of organization officials."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (Y90CU)

57

But,,, What about Cecil?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (HSmrB)

58 Whomever coined the phrase "Hell must be full, because Demons walk the Earth" really hit the fucking nail on the head.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (72D6h)

59 The Nazis pulling gold teeth from murdered Jews.

At least the Jews were already dead when rendered. It's a hell of a thing when Nazis have more ethics than PP does.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (evdj2)

60 Lindsay Graham has spent his whole life ensuring he wouldn't be responsible for any unwanted pregnancies.

So give the guy a break.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (5npD/)

61 Too much truth. Our society can't handle this. We cannot have these evil monsters exposed like this, so I'm expecting a really ugly backlash. One that won't make sense to most of us, but will be allowed to sit out there and gather credibility.

Sorry for being vague, I don't know what form this will take, but I expect we will know it when we see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (l6K1I)

62 "5th Planned Parenthood Video Drops"

But they can't DOOOOOOO that! A Federaaaaaaaal judge told them they couldn't!

Posted by: Defenders of Evil at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (Maary)

63 >>I thought they were ordered not to release new videos, or was that just those involving that particular research buyer?

>> It was a particular "buyer "

The CA judge's order was related to a buyer, but then there was the federal judge that gave an additional order on Friday(?), too.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (NOIQH)

64 I think that was due to CA law on recording. This one was in TX so no such laws. Still fucking disgusting though.

Yes. They released this ahead of time to the Texas AG and the legislature. Of course the Texas AG is now under Federal Indictment soo.....

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (hUdMz)

65 "Donald Trump says that he supports shutting down the government to defund Planned Parenthood in the wake of a series of controversial undercover videos of organization officials.

-----

If that is true, I anticipate another 10 percent rise in the polls.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (gmeXX)

66 Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (Y90CU)


Donald Trump makes obviously good political move.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (FhT/k)

67

Each video is worse than the previous. At this rate, by #8, the PP representative will be offering black baby liver on a cracker.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 11:47 AM (evdj2)


by #9 we'll all be vomiting profusely

I stopped watching after the first 2.

I just can't.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (qCMvj)

68 I know the second law of the internet is never go all Godwin - and people define that as broadly as possible - but I'm sorry. The comparisons between these guys and the Nazis when it comes to human life is as horrific and clear as back when C. Everett Koop warned about it in the late 70s.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (39g3+)

69 Introduce another bill.

Challenge the law in court. Get it revised.

Burn and salt the ground.

Posted by: Feh at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (G4d43)

70 The Democrat War on Babies continues.

Posted by: Marmo, heteronormative person of pallor at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (QW+AD)

71 3 God damned motherfucking priests of God damned motherfucking Moloch.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 11:45 AM (kff5f)

You said it, brother. A tray full of chopped up baby parts, with arms and legs that have fingers and toes. Anybody who defends this is a fucking ghoul. Holy Jesus Christ.

And Moo Moo, you can go fuck yourself. These fuckers cut up unborn babies and sell their organs in violation of federal law, and the best you have is your usual "socons cost the Republicans elections" bullshit? You're every bit as morally bankrupt and soulless as these motherfucking butchers.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (2Ojst)

72 This is video #5?

And they supposedly get progressively (heh) worse?

God only knows what is in #12.

Posted by: Cranky J Anne at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (5rbdR)

73 I think that was due to CA law on recording. This one was in TX so no such laws. Still fucking disgusting though.

Yes. They released this ahead of time to the Texas AG and the legislature. Of course the Texas AG is now under Federal Indictment soo.....
Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (hUdMz)


thanks for the info

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (qCMvj)

74 Of course the Texas AG is now under Federal Indictment soo.....

------

State indictment

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (gmeXX)

75 Meanwhile, the few libs that I still manage cordial relationships with (largely because they're family) are losing thier minds defending this.

They swear it's all fake.


Ask them how. Are those NOT employees on the videos?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (gECZB)

76 May they repent sincerely and atone. There's always that chance (not saying it's the way to bet).

Posted by: Clayton Hartwig at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (Ft3+l)

77 The federal judge issued an injunction against releasing any more videos. He was also a huge Obama bundler in CA and a confirmed proud fascist by his past remarks / rulings on other issues.

CMP just gave him the finger.

Keep standing up to these fascists CMP.

Posted by: deepelemblues at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (LdJfm)

78 I have lost interest in peaceful coexisting with those who support this.

Posted by: YouKnowWho at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (axOXH)

79 Planned Parenthood and their abortion doctors kill babies. It's what they do. Why are we all surprised that no one gives a damn about these videos?

Posted by: XPO182 at August 04, 2015 11:56 AM (1PDwB)

80 The Whigs would not stand against the evil of slavery; some humans are not human, they decided.

The Republicans will not stand against the evil of abortion; some babies are not babies, they've decided.

If you have any thought of voting for a Republican, don't: That party must die as sure as the Whigs--it has lost it's moral bearing and any legitimacy as a moral party.

Without the death of the Whig party, slavery would have remained legal.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (ZvKdv)

81 It's true.

The Republican presidential contender was asked on The Hugh Hewitt show Monday night if he supported the move. "Well I can tell you this: I would," Trump replied.

"I was also in support if the Republicans stuck together you could have done it with ObamaCare also, but the Republicans decided not to stick together and they left a few people out there like Ted Cruz," he said. "You know, they left a lot of the people that really went in and wanted to do the job and you know what? If they had stuck together they would have won that battle."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (Y90CU)

82 "never go all Godwin"

Means never follow certain facts to logical conclusions.

When the shoe fits, wear it.

Posted by: Feh at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (G4d43)

83 Meanwhile, most of the left is playing "see no evil" on this one. And they say we're the religious fanatics.

Posted by: Hal at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (hmPdt)

84 Huge BLOWOUT SALE!!!!!

BOGO BOGO BOGO

Free Calvarium to the first 20 customers!

Posted by: PP Inc at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (QM5S2)

85 I think that was due to CA law on recording. This one was in TX so no such laws. Still fucking disgusting though.

Posted by: Timon at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (ZDJwC)


But last week a federal judge in San Francisco issued another restraining order against releasing ANY future videos, not just the ones involving the StemExpress officials. This release looks like a violation of that RO, so either there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, or the Center for Medical Progress is thumbing their nose at the judge.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (j1VIK)

86 Can somebody please explain why the pinnacle of woman's autonomy and liberty revolves around their ability to murder their progeny in-utero?

What a wonderful achievement!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (JbETL)

87 Well, if this Admin has taught us anything it's that laws aren't really, ya know, "law" laws.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (LA7Cm)

88 When the shoe jackboot fits, wear it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (evdj2)

89 Posted by: RoyalOil at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (ZvKdv)

----

A fair point. All this other stuff is secondary.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (gmeXX)

90 I didn't watch any of them, I can't take it. I read some transcripts and keep up with the discussion but the evil is so bad I find myself thinking unChristian thoughts and wanting to do things I know are wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (39g3+)

91 "I was also in support if the Republicans stuck together you could have
done it with ObamaCare also, but the Republicans decided not to stick
together and they left a few people out there like Ted Cruz,"



I said it before: I would have paid real money to get a transcript of the Trump - Cruz meeting in New York a couple of weeks ago.


Posted by: some random meathead at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (1+7D3)

92 But last week a federal judge in San Francisco issued another restraining order against releasing ANY future videos, not just the ones involving the StemExpress officials.

That judge can go fuck himself.

Posted by: The First Amendment at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (2Ojst)

93 This release looks like a violation of that RO, so either there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, or the Center for Medical Progress is thumbing their nose at the judge.


Off CONUS server and a third party.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:00 PM (gECZB)

94 92 But last week a federal judge in San Francisco issued another restraining order against releasing ANY future videos, not just the ones involving the StemExpress officials


Looks like they may need to speed up the releases...

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:00 PM (hUdMz)

95 >>At this rate, by #8, the PP representative will be offering black baby liver on a cracker.


A few statements from the PP Houston recently:

--- Planned Parenthood has said that its Texas affiliates do not participate in fetal tissue donation.

---According to Linton, Planned Parenthood expects that the new video could show actors pretending to be from a company called BioMax. She said leading questions were asked about how to select potential donors for a supposed study of sickle cell anemia, a disease "known to be racially linked, apparently seeking to create a misleading impression."

https://news.yahoo.com/
texas-ag-office-received-more-planned-parenthood-videos-171843368.html

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:01 PM (NOIQH)

96 So we have it on tape that women are being treated as living, breathing incubators. "

Bbbbut "The Handmaiden's Tale" was about the eeeevils of Jesusland under Reagan!!!!

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:01 PM (C9pBZ)

97 We were hacked!

Posted by: CMP at August 04, 2015 12:01 PM (evdj2)

98 "80 The Whigs would not stand against the evil of slavery; some humans are not human, they decided.

The Republicans will not stand against the evil of abortion; some babies are not babies, they've decided.

If you have any thought of voting for a Republican, don't: That party must die as sure as the Whigs--it has lost it's moral bearing and any legitimacy as a moral party.

Without the death of the Whig party, slavery would have remained legal.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 04, 2015 11:57 AM (ZvKdv) "

Yup. This.
In 1856 Republicans were a nowhere third party, in 1860 they elected a President in a landslide.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2015 12:01 PM (go6ud)

99 I was encouraged to abort my daughter after her heart defect was detected in utero.

She's now a very rambunctious little 5 year old pixie. She's had one surgery, and will need another procedure in the future.

Lately, every time she pisses me off, I think of these videos and realize just how lucky I am that I was brought up to not even consider abortion. The thought that she could have ended up like these children breaks my heart.

I can't watch them. It would turn me into a puddle of mush for the rest of the day. Even hearing about the summaries is sometimes too much. But I hope they manage to release ALL of the videso, because I want the "pro-choice" fanatics to know precisely what they are supporting.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (h8UWI)

100 Safe and rare.
For teh womyns!

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (QM5S2)

101 Posted by: The First Amendment at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (2Ojst)


What the hell are you?

Posted by: John Roberts and the Supremes at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (FhT/k)

102 Gee, wonder if they ever told someone "come back in a few weeks when your .... specimen is more .... valuable."

Posted by: Paladin at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (YNPwP)

103 if you are pro abortion.....these are your people....you own them.... you should be ashamed of yourselves......spin it anyway you would like...you know it's true...shame on you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (0O7c5)

104 101 Posted by: The First Amendment at August 04, 2015 11:59 AM (2Ojst)


What the hell are you?
Posted by: John Roberts and the Supremes at August 04, 2015 12:02 PM (FhT/k)

I'm a fundamental civil right, and a tax.

Posted by: The First Amendment at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (2Ojst)

105
Well, the Lion story has died down.

The Giraffe story is pretty much DOA.

What next will pop up on the left's radar to divert voters eyes from these horrible videos? The ones the other media outlets won't or barely cover.



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (qCMvj)

106 Yup. This.
In 1856 Republicans were a nowhere third party, in 1860 they elected a President in a landslide.

-----

RR was elected when he said the Soviet Union was evil. This country has a way of "rewarding" Republican presidential candidates who are not afraid to say what really needs to be said.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (gmeXX)

107 The Nazis pulling gold teeth from murdered Jews.

Jew-killing was only 3% of the Nazi agenda. They also built roads and schools, promoted science, provided universal health care, created millions of middle-class jobs, and didn't go around leaving candy-wrappers all over the place.

It's just like you fanatical Socons to focus on the Jew-Killing as though it was the *only* thing the Nazis ever did.

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (O7MnT)

108 Someone ask these supporters of murdering babies what about these videos is fake?

Posted by: DangerGirl at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (L6lkG)

109 Hillary underwater with white wimmins.

At this point I expect Hillary to show up in black face and say she's the daughter of a poor sharecropper.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (oFCZn)

110 Many years ago, when I was in college, my roommate told me quietly about a mutual acquaintance student who had a student work position in the university health research department.

Her job? Courier for tissue sampling from the operating room to the research labs. It included abortions that the university was performing. PP isn't the only abortion provider.

I believe the university I went to was not an "abortion on demand" facility, rather, the abortions they performed were on women whose ultrasounds demonstrated fetal abnormalities, genetic defects, etc.

Regardless, my roommate and I never discussed it again. As 20 year olds, we simply chose not to think about such things, believing that eventually we would find the rationale for such procedures to be proven sound with increasing age and knowledge.

It has turned out the opposite.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (YP6Ap)

111 Saying that this stuff should not happen because it hurts GOP chances is like saying those awful killing fields reports should be hushed up because it would damage Cambodian support. Oh no, lets not report on the atrocities in Romania, gypsies might not vote Republican! Lets not mention Mao murdering millions of people with a busted dam, we need that vital Chinese vote!

Evil is evil. It must be confronted and stopped. And this is definitely costing Planned Parenthood. Major donors are pulling out. I think even the dumbest low information voter is horrified by selling baby parts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (39g3+)

112 By the way, nary a mention of this in the MSM... So.... it doesn't exist...

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (hUdMz)

113 Off CONUS server and a third party."

This. As in "doesn't apply to Ukrainian dude w/a high speed connection and plenty of storage"

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (C9pBZ)

114 Fun little story: A friend of mine on Facebook (a liberal, orthodox jew) is an ardent PP supporter. So far, her defense against these videos has been to declare them fake while refusing to watch them. (She cites "deceptive editing" until the full videos are released, then she moves on to "it doesn't matter if they're real, abortion is important.")

Pro-lifers who try to outlaw abortion bother her so much, she said at one point, that sometimes she thinks about getting an abortion just to spite them.

I can't imagine how seared and unfeeling one's conscience must be to reach that point.

Posted by: Hal at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (hmPdt)

115 And the media is complicit in hiding this from the public. They are enablers of murder as well as the scum in Congress.

Posted by: DangerGirl at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (L6lkG)

116 I'm a fundamental civil right, and a tax.
Posted by: The First Amendment at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (2Ojst)


You ain't a fundamental right. Your name isn't abortion or gay marriage.

(And you don't have proof my kids were adopted illegally.)

Posted by: John Roberts at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (FhT/k)

117 Gee, wonder if they ever told someone "come back in a few weeks when your .... specimen is more .... valuable."


Video #8.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (gECZB)

118 Jew-killing was only 3% of the Nazi agenda. They also built roads and
schools, promoted science, provided universal health care, created
millions of middle-class jobs, and didn't go around leaving
candy-wrappers all over the place.


Put that on a graphic of a little girl handing flowers to Hitler and I'll retweet the hell out of it.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (/kI1Q)

119 These videos should forever put to rest the feminist trope that, "Once women are in charge the world will be more peaceful, sane."

When in fact your "disposal" will be treated as nothing more meaningful than a budget line item. God they're sick.

Posted by: BuckIV at August 04, 2015 12:06 PM (CLfqv)

120
By the way, nary a mention of this in the MSM... So.... it doesn't exist...

Joe and Mika, on MSNBC, have mentioned it several times and believe it is a growing and worsening story.

It's not going away.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 04, 2015 12:06 PM (JtwS4)

121 Gee, wonder if they ever told someone "come back in a few weeks when your .... specimen is more .... valuable."

No need, just send the incubator patient up to the front desk to make an appointment. First appointment available just happens to be a few weeks out, what a coincidence.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 04, 2015 12:06 PM (4WhSY)

122 Joe and Mika, on MSNBC, have mentioned it several times and believe it is a growing and worsening story.

It's not going away.

I hope you're right...

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (hUdMz)

123 or the Center for Medical Progress is thumbing their nose at the judge.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (j1VIK)

If they are saying fuckoff to a federal judge, these guys are my new favorite people on the planet.

Posted by: pashmr at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (3aNC4)

124 The comparisons between these guys and the Nazis when it comes to human life is as horrific and clear as back when C. Everett Koop warned about it in the late 70s.

Oh, no, this is much worse. At least the Jews had some capacity to defend themselves and fight back.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (2l5vw)

125 These PP videos are depleting the Dems supply of #SQUIRRELS!

Posted by: some random meathead at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (1+7D3)

126 Hillary underwater with white wimmins.

That's the key constituent she needs. For some insane, incomprehensible reason, minorities love them some Hillary Clinton, no matter much she embodies arrogant white crackerhood. But she needs white women as her main voting body.

But; polling is largely BS and its very early. She'll turn it around with the help of the news media.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (39g3+)

127 "At this point I expect Hillary to show up in black face and say she's the daughter of a poor sharecropper."

I ain't no ways tired.

Posted by: Hillary Cankles Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (Y90CU)

128 >> I was encouraged to abort my daughter after her heart defect was detected in utero.

She's now a very rambunctious little 5 year old pixie. She's had one surgery, and will need another procedure in the future.
* * *
Same here!! They found my son's heart defects during the 17 week sonogram. No one suggested abortion, just very careful information shared about our options and additional test for some scary genetic defects. We also started seeing a pediatric cardiologist where my unborn kid, not me, was the patient (so, not a clump of cells)

He's now 12, an absolute delight.
The multiple surgeries, heart caths, etc. were not a small thing, but so very worth it.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (NOIQH)

129 splitting up the specimens for shipment.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (0O7c5)

130 Pretty surreal to hear Harry Reid say yesterday on the Senate floor that
Republicans have lost their moral compass for wanting to defund PP.


Have you see the clip where Barack I ends his speech with "God Bless Planed Parenthood".

Why a lightning bolt from the sky didn't happen .....

Posted by: Paladin at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (YNPwP)

131 They swear it's all fake.

1. "The videos are fake."
2. "OK, they're not fake, but what's the big deal, it's not like they broke any laws."
3. "OK, they broke some stupid law, but what's the big deal, fetal tissue is important to scientific research."

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (O7MnT)

132 But last week a federal judge in San Francisco issued another
restraining order against releasing ANY future videos, not just the ones
involving the StemExpress officials.



That judge can go fuck himself.
==========
Less than 200 years ago there were laws making it illegal to harbor or abet an escaped slave--those were not humans, they were property.

You were under a legal duty to take that property and return him as you would an escaped cow.

Those laws were upheld by judges and enforced by police officers.

Those laws were even upheld by the Supreme Court.

Fuck that judge.

Fuck him every which way but nice.

He is an evil piece of shit upholding evil because evil profits him.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (ZvKdv)

133
"In before moo moo"


Abortion is beautiful and wonderful. Nobody cares about this. PP is the best thing ever. Go pray to your non-existent sky wizard. I'm rich.

Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (OD2ni)

134 I say again: some Repub needs to compare the price of baby parts with that of Obongo's beloved wagyu beef.



Now that's playing political hardball.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:08 PM (oKE6c)

135 "RR was elected when he said the Soviet Union was evil. This country has a way of "rewarding" Republican presidential candidates who are not afraid to say what really needs to be said. "

This too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (go6ud)

136
Alternate post title:

We Live In An Arugula Republic

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (7Sop8)

137 Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (xSCb6)

138 all mixed up together in a bag!!! lol.........good times

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (0O7c5)

139 Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (NOIQH)


My wife and I were strongly encouraged to do genetics testing for down syndrome. When I asked why, they said "well, you are running out of time."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (FhT/k)

140 I will absolutely become an overnight Trump supporter if he comes out hard for defunding PP in the debate. Sure I don't believe he would actually do it, but at least he will force the issue.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (gmeXX)

141 137 Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick.

So He still has it?

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (hUdMz)

142 I say again: some Repub needs to compare the price of baby parts with that of Obongo's beloved wagyu beef. "

Cut. Jib. You get the point.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (C9pBZ)

143 I ain't no ways tired.

Posted by: Hillary Cankles Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (Y90CU)




But you is all ways done.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:10 PM (oKE6c)

144 Too idiotic....the same people who are funding and supporting PP are they same people the LIV's put in charge of their health care system.

What's next? Vans with enclosed exhaust systems for the elderly to go for a joy ride courtesy of Obama Care?

Sometimes it's good to be dead.....

Posted by: Zombie Marcus Welby MD at August 04, 2015 12:10 PM (D0NZx)

145 284 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 10:11 AM (kff5f)

-----------------------------------------------------------
"Can't speak for anyone else, but it seems to me that, outside the ones I'll Never Vote For, they fall into roughly two groups (+ Trump, Team Burn it Down)."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 04, 2015 11:20 AM (kff5f)

--------------------------------------------------------
In a couple of threads ago...an anomaly occurred. A honest question was asked about the discrepancy.
I wouldn't mind hearing the answer to this myself.

Posted by: Face-palm at August 04, 2015 12:10 PM (ShdUd)

146 If you Socons are gonna get all bothered by a little practical Eugenics here and there how can you expect to win elections?

Posted by: Akin/HuckaMoo at August 04, 2015 12:11 PM (1+7D3)

147 I'm sorry that the GOP is actually for abortion because it hasn't already gotten into a fight with the president over it that it can't win and would be demagogued over straight up to and after Hillary wins the White House over it. Because left-wing fearmongering to single women works. The young unmarried women who want to have casual sex all the time because they're young and want to "live life" (aka get drunk and have casual sex from age 18-30 until they wake up one morning and finally figure out why their relationships never work and they're unhappy all the time) without consequence. And of course, without anyone judging them, because getting judged is the Holocaust and whoever is judging you is Hitler. Which is a lot of young, unmarried women.

Posted by: deepelemblues at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (LdJfm)

148 >>My wife and I were strongly encouraged to do genetics testing for down syndrome. When I asked why, they said "well, you are running out of time."

Yeah, I didn't think it through at the time - we were just thinking that we wanted to have as much info about his health so that we could put together a plan. Yeah, naïve.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (NOIQH)

149
"Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick"


The SJWs want to go after Ronda Rousey because she does not want to fight a trans-gendered "woman" because he/she is still physically a man.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (OD2ni)

150
Put that on a graphic of a little girl handing flowers to Hitler and I'll retweet the hell out of it.


Do you think the quote is an obvious enough reference to PP, or should I put some kind of additional context to it?

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (O7MnT)

151 rather, the abortions they performed were on women whose ultrasounds demonstrated fetal abnormalities, genetic defects, etc.


Gannett ran this piece over the weekend where a woman who didn't kill her son to donate his tissues to science thinks it's "good and necessary" that other women do.

http://is.gd/5LhRK7

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (/kI1Q)

152 137 Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (xSCb6)

They might be turning on him. Supposedly disparaged welfare recipients.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (fWAjv)

153 So where the hell were these abortionists in 1961, when they could have done the nation a service?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:12 PM (oKE6c)

154
or the Center for Medical Progress is thumbing their nose at the judge.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 11:58 AM (j1VIK)

If they are saying fuckoff to a federal judge, these guys are my new favorite people on the planet.

Posted by: pashmr at August 04, 2015 12:07 PM (3aNC4)






CMP says FYNQ.

OMFG FTW.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 04, 2015 12:13 PM (fKmBJ)

155

Hey, I live in Norfolk , Virginia!

Oh well, I don't watch those idiots on my local stations.

. - Anyway. I'm drinking and listtenig. So should not comment.






Posted by: _Dave_ at August 04, 2015 12:13 PM (l2dSQ)

156 Hillary underwater with white wimmins.



What is it with dems and being under water with women? First it was Ted Kennedy.......

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:13 PM (gECZB)

157 The team that's producing the CGI for all these fake and heavily-edited PP vids is way better than anything Hollywood is putting out these day.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:13 PM (xSCb6)

158 They might be turning on him. Supposedly disparaged welfare recipients.

Well, if (s)he doesn't backtrack we may have found a running mate for the Donald.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:14 PM (FhT/k)

159
At this point I expect Hillary to show up in black face and say she's the daughter of a poor sharecropper.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 04, 2015 12:04 PM (oFCZn)


-------------------------

Hmmmmmm...... Ya' think that would help?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:14 PM (HSmrB)

160 >>Too idiotic....the same people who are funding and supporting PP are they same people the LIV's put in charge of their health care system.


Yep. The pediatric cardiologist mentioned at our first visit that hey, we're lucky that the procedures were available to us here in America, because they weren't authorized in Canada and the UK (not a worthy health care expense, apparently).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:14 PM (NOIQH)

161 YES!!

Finally a winning issue for 2016. Abortion!!

Next up 7 more Benghazi hearings and a constitutional amendment to ban the gheys from getting married.

I smell a 45 state landslide win.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:14 PM (0LHZx)

162 The SJWs want to go after Ronda Rousey because she does not want to fight a trans-gendered "woman" because he/she is still physically a man.


Equality is a stone cold bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (gECZB)

163 PP isn't the only abortion provider.

I believe the university I went to was not an "abortion on demand" facility, rather, the abortions they performed were on women whose ultrasounds demonstrated fetal abnormalities, genetic defects, etc.


Correct, this isn't limited to Planned Parenthood. I'm confident many large and extensive abortion clinics are part of the scam.

But lets step back a moment and think about this. All those parts. How many bits do research labs really need? Why are they ordering and paying for so much? What are they doing with all these mangled baby parts?

We already know that not a single viable treatment has arisen from embryonic stem cell research. Not one. They've all been incredibly bad for the trial patients, instead.

What are they doing with all this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (39g3+)

164

These are the people who will be In Charge when obamacare goes fully govt-run.

They WILL be euthsnizing "useless" old people. And they WILL be redistrubiting organs to the "right" people.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (7Sop8)

165 No lions were harmed in making the video...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (jsWA8)

166 65 "Donald Trump says that he supports shutting down the government to defund Planned Parenthood in the wake of a series of controversial undercover videos of organization officials.

Why, that sort of rhetoric is not helpful! Unserious. Clown. etc etc. El Jeb!! would not make that mistake

Posted by: El Jeb!! 's flunkies at Faux News at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (hKyl0)

167 Do you think the quote is an obvious enough reference to PP, or should I put some kind of additional context to it?

Hrmmm, yeah, without their logo or that quote somewhere people might think we're all Stormfronty.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (/kI1Q)

168 "...there's no law broken."

So just because something may not technically violate the law automatically makes it ok? We can't question whether something is moral or ethical or humane if "no law has been broken?" If it's legal, all debate is cut off.

What kind of argument is that? Were the abolitionists wrong to fight slavery because technically it wasn't against the law to own another human being? Were civil rights activists wrong to fight segregation because technically it wasn't against the law to send black people to the back of the bus? Give me a break.

Am I to believe that "progressives" never oppose laws they find repulsive?? If this is actually legal, I find it even more disgusting. That society would condone this kind of activity is a reflection of how sick society and most of its members have become.

Posted by: Laugh it up, Fuzzball! at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (Es7YA)

169 My wife and I were strongly encouraged to do genetics testing for down syndrome. When I asked why, they said "well, you are running out of time."

Yeah, I didn't think it through at the time - we were just thinking that we wanted to have as much info about his health so that we could put together a plan.

-----

We avoided all testing because frankly I didn't want to know or be tempted in any way (not that I was worried about the temptation).

But there is nothing wrong with wanting to prepare yourself ahead of time if that is the reason why got the testing done. I can see the benefit of that.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (gmeXX)

170 We're not going to stop abortion, but I sure as hell think we can stop using tax payers money to fund it...

Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (hUdMz)

171 Twat troll can't help but be a twat troll.

Posted by: Mr. Fisto at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (HstNY)

172 Too idiotic....the same people who are funding and supporting PP are they same people the LIV's put in charge of their health care system.

What's next? Vans with enclosed exhaust systems for the elderly to go for a joy ride courtesy of Obama Care?

Sometimes it's good to be dead.....

Posted by: Zombie Marcus Welby MD at August 04, 2015 12:10 PM (D0NZx)


That's a good idea.

Posted by: Ezekial Emmanuel MD at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (ZDJwC)

173 Vox is defending this on the grounds that medical advances have been made in the past using fetal tissue:
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/14/8964513/planned-parenthood-aborted-fetuses

I wonder if they would accept this same excuse when it comes to animal research?

Posted by: Ezra Clown at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (E5UB0)

174 In addition to gassing Jews, Hitler has his Action T4 program to eliminate defective citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:17 PM (NOIQH)

175 "Pro-lifers who try to outlaw abortion bother her so much, she said at one point, that sometimes she thinks about getting an abortion just to spite them.

I can't imagine how seared and unfeeling one's conscience must be to reach that point.
Posted by: Hal at August 04, 2015 12:05 PM (hmPdt)"

I can totally identify with that.

Posted by: Kaiser Sose at August 04, 2015 12:17 PM (1Rgee)

176 Ah, I've finally discovered a reason to get off my ass, go to schul, and become a Doktor -

Join Planned Parenthood and sell enough baby body-parts to buy a Lamborghini.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 (PP Brutality Denier) at August 04, 2015 12:17 PM (Pc/yo)

177 Vox is defending this on the grounds that medical advances have been made in the past using fetal tissue:

-----

Joseph Mengele made medical advances in what he was doing too.

Posted by: Bryan Williams at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (8XRCm)

178 The SJWs want to go after Ronda Rousey because she does not want to fight a trans-gendered "woman" because he/she is still physically a man.


What's the problem? Gender is just a social construct, isn't that right? Since we're told that that's true, there should be no mens' sports and womens' sports, just sports, winner take all.


The funniest part: there is a separate womens' competition for chess. Go figure that one out.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (oKE6c)

179
oh..... THATS an old sock

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (8XRCm)

180 I don't consider myself much of a SoCon, but I will tip my hat to the GOP that basically every single Republican Senator voted to defund Planned Parenthood and nearly every Democrat voted against defunding.

There is a difference between the two parties when you see Democrats rubber stamping this sickening organization.

Posted by: McAdams at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (RHqMo)

181 Has anyone gotten into Renee Ellmers (R- Idiot) face yet about her brave stand this spring to protect abortion

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (zt+N6)

182 Shut The Fuck Up Huck Akin



(Your daily referential comment for convenience)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (xSCb6)

183 I am an elitist pro-abortion asshole who thinks that ignoring chopped up baby videos is the path to victory in 2016.

Also everyone should listen to me because I have claimed great wealth on teh Internet.


Posted by: Akin/HuckaMoo at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (1+7D3)

184 So where the hell were these abortionists in 1961, when they could have done the nation a service?

In previous discussions about that here, it's been suggested that Stanley Ann wouldn't have availed herself of their talents, as toting around a little black baby that she made herself was a cool thing to shock the squares.

But yes, I find it incredibly frustrating that Obamabots can't see that in advising an unmarried 18-year-old girl looking to go to college in the fall to kill the baby for her convenience, they would have killed their own fake messiah.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (/kI1Q)

185 The accusations are not true, of course. The entire scandal is a charade to advance the larger war on the sex lives of low-income people in Louisiana.

-dumb bitch Marcotte

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (fWAjv)

186 Speaking of sick monstrous murder loving ghouls. There's moo moo.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (zt+N6)

187 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:14 PM (0LHZx)


Get this man a column at the National Review!

Posted by: The GOP at August 04, 2015 12:19 PM (FhT/k)

188 >>Vox is defending this on the grounds that medical advances have been made in the past using fetal tissue

A. Name one.
B. Then why has PP never mentioned this before as part of their fundraising, PR, or more importantly, to it's abortion patients?

"Now see, Mary, I'm going to evacuate your womb using this procedure so that the geniuses a Lab X can get decent liver and brain samples for their study, m'kay?"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:20 PM (NOIQH)

189 The funniest part: there is a separate womens' competition for chess. Go figure that one out.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (oKE6c)

----

Thats an easy one. It requires non emotional planning, tactical strategies and superior intellect.


**runs**

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:20 PM (8XRCm)

190 What's next? Vans with enclosed exhaust systems for the elderly to go for a joy ride courtesy of Obama Care?

You jest but those old people are a burden on the system and the quality of their lives are so low, we are really doing them a favor. Its best for them, and they really want to go.

This is exactly the argument used by Nazi Germany in propaganda films about the mentally ill. That exact argument.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:20 PM (39g3+)

191 I'm genuinely curious. Does the vile Harry Reid not profess to be a Mormon?
Are Mormons not pro-life?
Can nobody excommunicate him?
Is he planning to spend his eternal retirement in a very warm climate?

Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (4rzL1)

192 the planned parenthood doctors have a very different definition of what "taking care of you" means

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (0O7c5)

193 @HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:16 PM (/kI1Q)

Does this work for you?

https://twitter.com/VtheK/status/ 628601844567142400

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (O7MnT)

194 180 I don't consider myself much of a SoCon, but I will tip my hat to the GOP that basically every single Republican Senator voted to defund Planned Parenthood and nearly every Democrat voted against defunding.

Well, I didn't vote for it or against it. I was going for the fabulously wealthy AoS commenter vote.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (FhT/k)

195 Joseph Mengele made medical advances in what he was doing too.

Posted by: Bryan Williams at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (8XRCm)



Not sure whether that was pure snark or not, but I've read that that's actually true. Postwar physicians were put in an ethical quandary because a few of the things Mengele had done were medically useful, but they didn't want to be seen to validate his atrocities by using the information.


Or so I've read.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (oKE6c)

196 It's time to attach "baby killer" to the name of each Senator who voted against defunding PP yesterday, making it clear that these monsters chose funding what is in these videos over sending that funding to medical organizations and centers that actually care about women's health over aborting babies. Baby killer was used illegitimately by the Left against out young men drafted to fight in Vietnam. It's time to use it legitimately and give them a taste of their own medicine. Baby Killer should be attached to each of their names for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: MostlyRight at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (OBiEU)

197 I'm genuinely curious. Does the vile Harry Reid not profess to be a Mormon?
Are Mormons not pro-life?
Can nobody excommunicate him?


I started a petition to have him excommunicated, but it went nowhere.

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (O7MnT)

198 What are they doing with all this?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (39g3+)

Getting research grants anyway. Remember, the CDC and NIH are the folks who give out huge research grants to study why lesbians are fat, etc.

So just because there hasn't been any worthwhile embryonic stem cell research doesn't mean that they won't end up with a single study that shows something, cough cough.

Think about this. Why would the NIH shut down research in this area when it might harm the abortion sacrament of Dem Liberals, who are the ones in charge of overseeing the NIH and who are getting donations from PP?

Follow the money.

As far as university research on fetal remains, that can also be in the realm of determining what causes fetal defects, etc. I'm not giving them a pass so much as saying that I believe a university research system is much broader and has actually done some good as opposed to PP, which is aborting for profit and for ideology.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (YP6Ap)

199 Do you people seriously not realize this is a losing issue all around? It won't lead to fewer abortions. It will help Democrats politically. And it will lead to less research done on horrible diseases.


Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)

200 191 I'm genuinely curious. Does the vile Harry Reid not profess to be a Mormon?
Are Mormons not pro-life?
Can nobody excommunicate him?
Is he planning to spend his eternal retirement in a very warm climate?

Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (4rzL1)



I remember when he first became leader of the Senate Dems. The news was talking about him being a pro-life democrat. Yeah load of shit.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (zt+N6)

201 Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (O7MnT)

I won't be able to see it until I go home, but I'll look for it first thing.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (/kI1Q)

202 I started a petition to have him excommunicated

Is this actually a thing? You can do this? 'cause I have a list.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (evdj2)

203 ***"I wonder if they would accept this same excuse when it comes to animal research?"***


This needs the be thrown in the face of every elected and unelected Leftist until they answer.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:23 PM (xSCb6)

204 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)

Fuck off you sick lying shit.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:23 PM (zt+N6)

205 Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:21 PM (oKE6c)



Yep. Thats how we know how long humans can stay alive in freezing water. Delightful, no?

Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 12:24 PM (xWW96)

206 ***"I wonder if they would accept this same excuse when it comes to animal research?"***


This needs the be thrown in the face of every elected and unelected Leftist until they answer.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:23 PM (xSCb6)

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B-b-b-b-b-but animals are people and fetuses are not..... there *IS* the difference.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:24 PM (8XRCm)

207 The SJWs want to go after Ronda Rousey because she does not want to fight a trans-gendered "woman" because he/she is still physically a man.

Yeah but that's not a squirrel. That's just them being shocked and upset that one of their heroes turned on them.

The Obama administration has a list of stuff to fire up when the situation demands it, all prepped up with talking points, who to contact, and strategies on how to promote it. And the regular phone and personal meetings with the press ensure they're all on board. We've seen it again and again; sometimes they stumble like Zimmerman/Martin but they bravely push through despite it not being a cracker.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:24 PM (39g3+)

208 Moo Moo is more concerned with stopping the hunting of animals than he is the murder and parting out of babies.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:24 PM (zt+N6)

209 And it will lead to less research done on horrible diseases.


Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:22 PM


Any of these diseases as agonizingly painful as being pulled apart in pieces?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (FhT/k)

210 It smells like the congressional phone lines are melting down. Do your part. I would use the local contacts to call.

Posted by: Dang at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (2oWD2)

211 V the K

I think there is a space in your url that hoses it.

Posted by: irright at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (DtNNC)

212 A. Name one."

Exactly so.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (C9pBZ)

213 Do you people seriously not realize this is a losing issue all around?

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No we seriously do not see it that way. I'll engage in a cordial debate on this (why I don't know). First and most important (and really of only importance), it is pure evil in my mind. Even if it was a losing issue (which I doubt), I would be advocating the same thing.

But second, there is little evidence that it is a losing issue, and a lot of evidence it is actually a winning issue.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

214 I won't be able to see it until I go home, but I'll look for it first thing.

Two retweets so far.

You know, in my interactions with pro-aborts, almost inevitably they will say, "Well, I am glad for abortion because I don't want my taxes paying for all the welfare kids."

Ponder that.

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (O7MnT)

215 The abortions happened whether or not the tissue was then sold. So are you suggesting that because tissue now cannot be used for medical research, the 16 year old getting the abortion won't have the abortion?

These fetuses will be aborted with or without the sale of tisse. The So-Con effort won't lead to fewer abortions. It will lead to less medical research performed.

Hooray!!! Less medical research, more pain and suffering. It's what God wants. Right?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (0LHZx)

216 The Federal district judge issued the TRO on any videos involving the National Abortion Federation and their meetings that might have been recorded. There is a hearing on the merits on 27 August. It was not a blanket TRO on all potential videos.

Secondly, lots of candidates are in favor of de-funding PP, including Trump talking about it. One candidate has already DONE it. Scott Walker in Wisconsin.

Years ago, actually.

Words are cheap. Actions matter.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (ljZD2)

217 And it will lead to less research done on horrible diseases."

Name one.

We'll wait.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (C9pBZ)

218 ***"The funniest part: there is a separate womens' competition for chess. Go figure that one out.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:18 PM (oKE6c) "***



Patriarchy, duuuuh.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (xSCb6)

219 Twat troll changed his reasoning from the last thread.

Posted by: Mr. Fisto at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (HstNY)

220 Since the first video dropped, all I've heard from my left-leaning acquaintances is the litany of tissue-thin lines:

"Fake videos"
"Heavily and unfairly edited"
"No one is killing babies for parts"
"Setup... staged... entrapment"
"Clump of cells"
"Faux news"
"Women's health... mammograms... free birth control"

No one who looks at these videos honestly can continue to parrot these lies. And yet they do. Truth and justice do not matter to these people -- only that their side, their party, their cause must win, by any means necessary. And so they will deny the obvious, pretend reality doesn't exist, and convince themselves with their own lies.

THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO CAN BE PERSUADED BY THE TRUTH. It's more important to them to support a lie that they know is a lie, or plunge their collective heads into the ground, rather than admit their their worldview is wrong, has brought us to where we are today, and will only get worse.

Posted by: Qoheleth at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (iIzG7)

221 I think there is a space in your url that hoses it.

It would otherwise exceed pixy's character limit.

https://twitter.com/VtheK/status/628601844567142400

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (O7MnT)

222 ***"This is exactly the argument used by Nazi Germany in propaganda films about the mentally ill. That exact argument."***



And jwest. Don't forget that lying twat.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:26 PM (xSCb6)

223 Oh, I guess it doesn't

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (O7MnT)

224 Fuck off you sick lying shit.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:23 PM (zt+N6)

THREADWINNER!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (fWAjv)

225 215 The abortions happened whether or not the tissue was then sold. So are you suggesting that because tissue now cannot be used for medical research, the 16 year old getting the abortion won't have the abortion?

So are you saying the sale of organs from murdered people is okay because they would get murdered anyway?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (FhT/k)

226 Actually shutting down the countries largest abortion provider would likely result in fewer abortions. I would expect such an esteemed economist like yourself to understand that.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (gmeXX)

227 ***"I wonder if they would accept this same excuse when it comes to animal research?"***


Why not harvest tissue from the carcasses of executed prisoners? Hell, why not do experiments on them and go for the whole burrito, if we're going national socialist?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (oKE6c)

228 Ah.

Posted by: irright at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (DtNNC)

229 Postwar physicians were put in an ethical quandary because a few of the things Mengele had done were medically useful, but they didn't want to be seen to validate his atrocities by using the information.

For years, maybe still, a lot of his research was sealed away to never be used. The medical and scientific community decided that how he got the information was so evil they couldn't justify using it, no matter how valuable it might have been.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (39g3+)

230

Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (evdj2)

231
No we seriously do not see it that way. I'll engage in a cordial debate on this (why I don't know). First and most important (and really of only importance), it is pure evil in my mind. Even if it was a losing issue (which I doubt), I would be advocating the same thing.

But second, there is little evidence that it is a losing issue, and a lot of evidence it is actually a winning issue.
Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

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What is evil about using tissue for medical research? It's no different than someone being an organ donor.

And yes it is a losing issue. Whenever the GOP starts yammering about abortion, it's a losing issue. It's incredible that SoCons still don't understand this. Did 2012 not happen? Was it all a dream?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

232 Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to retrieve usable specimens from the "Products of conception" isn't it true that they can't use a "feticide" (never thought I'd type that word). This means that the baby can feel the pain as it is being torn to pieces or crushed in certain places. In order to profit from the sale of the parts.

Posted by: Timon at August 04, 2015 12:28 PM (ZDJwC)

233 Maybe the troll would volunteer his kids for a little medical experimentation?

Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (xWW96)

234 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (0LHZx)

Drop dead, you twisted, ghoulish fuck. And fetal tissue research, like ESC, has not produced one single effective treatment for human disease. Go suck Mengele's dick in hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (2Ojst)

235 My wife's position on these video's is it's just another attack by the republicans to outlaw abortion. She is most defiantly in the "this is a war on women" camp.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (S+el1)

236 Secondly, lots of candidates are in favor of de-funding PP, including Trump talking about it. One candidate has already DONE it. Scott Walker in Wisconsin.

Years ago, actually.

Words are cheap. Actions matter.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 04, 2015 12:25 PM (ljZD2)

I read yesterday that Bobby Jindal has pulled Medicaid funding from PP. Someone correct me if I have that wrong....

Heard on ABC radio yesterday, two sentences about the vote on pulling federal PP funding as being based on the videos, AND....only 3% of PP procedures involved abortion.

I about drove off the road. ABC actually is trying to tell us that PP only performs abortions on 3% of it's clients.

Right....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (YP6Ap)

237 And yes it is a losing issue. Whenever the GOP starts yammering about abortion, it's a losing issue. It's incredible that SoCons still don't understand this. Did 2012 not happen? Was it all a dream?

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (0LHZx)



Stupid lying dishonest shit.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (zt+N6)

238 Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick.

Over on Twitchy it looks like the new squirrel is the female UFC fighter who noted that an M to F tranny fighter would have significant upper-body strength advantages over born women. Most feminists have her back while the rest of LGBTBBQ thinks she's worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (S+N7W)

239 It will lead to less medical research performed.

Hooray!!! Less medical research, more pain and suffering. It's what God wants. Right?

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Ummmm...... you do know that a red herring isnt really a fish.... right??

And before you get tooooo far down your path of "what would Jesus do??"... just remember that it includes turning over tables in anger and whipping people.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (8XRCm)

240 Postwar physicians were put in an ethical quandary because a few of the things Mengele had done were medically useful, but they didn't want to be seen to validate his atrocities by using the information.

___________

Good fucking lord so now using fetal tissue is the equivalent of death camp torture.

Wow. Just fucking wow.

I'm going to start saying president elect Hillary early.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)

241 It's incredible that SoCons still don't understand this. Did 2012 not happen? Was it all a dream?

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I guess I missed the part of the campaign when the recently converted pro-lifer Mitt campaigned on abortion.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (gmeXX)

242 Question for moo moo and the other baby parts trafficking defenders.

Would there be anything wrong in your moral universe with a woman becoming pregnant for the direct purpose of having the baby's organs harvested and sold?

Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (O7MnT)

243 The medical research lie


http://tinyurl.com/qya6ol9

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (fWAjv)

244 107 The Nazis pulling gold teeth from murdered Jews.

Jew-killing was only 3% of the Nazi agenda. They also built roads and schools, promoted science, provided universal health care, created millions of middle-class jobs, and didn't go around leaving candy-wrappers all over the place.

It's just like you fanatical Socons to focus on the Jew-Killing as though it was the *only* thing the Nazis ever did.
Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2015 12:03 PM (O7MnT)


And they never sold baby parts. They'd turn you into a lampshade if you had cool ink, but there was some things even Mengele wouldn't do.

Posted by: Iblis at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (9221z)

245 "Fake videos"
"Heavily and unfairly edited"
"No one is killing babies for parts"
"Setup... staged... entrapment"
"Clump of cells"
"Faux news"
"Women's health... mammograms... free birth control"


The lamest one I've seen is "they aren't SELLING parts"

Yeah, they're just receiving money in exchange for them, from a price list. But its not selling, selling Whoopie.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (39g3+)

246 What are they doing with all this?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:15 PM (39g3+)


Cell culture studies with harvested tissues are complicated and wasteful. It's pretty easy to burn through millions of cells (or the contents of a single sample harvested from one of the babies in those videos) in a single day with nothing to show for it.

Further, although samples like these are usually stored at -70ºC, or in liquid nitrogen, there is still something of a "time limit" on the use of such samples. Materials that have been unused for more than a few years may not be considered worth selling; if they don't revive from the thaw, you just end up having to provide the customer another vial for use.

Posted by: Hal at August 04, 2015 12:30 PM (hmPdt)

247 Poo Poo went from saying that "organization that receives federal funding is breaking the law" is to "in the weeds" for people to understand to saying meh it's just a law.

Posted by: Mr. Fisto at August 04, 2015 12:30 PM (HstNY)

248 You know, in my interactions with pro-aborts, almost inevitably they
will say, "Well, I am glad for abortion because I don't want my taxes
paying for all the welfare kids."


Yeah, they think all the babies they don't kill will end up criminal deadbeats--and yet, they love them some criminal deadbeats. They drive business.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:30 PM (/kI1Q)

249 Well, at least now I know one thing the GOPe stands for:

Moral cowardice.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 04, 2015 12:30 PM (2l5vw)

250 Good fucking lord so now using fetal tissue is the equivalent of death camp torture.

YES!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (FhT/k)

251 >> The abortions happened whether or not the tissue was then sold.

You seem to be missing the point that PP is altering the abortion methods used to extract certain desired/contracted body parts.

Are they putting the women at greater risk because of this?

Is this why they are so adamant about keeping late-term abortion legal, which results in the in-womb killing of a viable fetus/baby, that some people consider infanticide? I'm talking about women in their 3rd trimester here.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (NOIQH)

252 The abortions happened whether or not the tissue was then sold. So are you suggesting that because tissue now cannot be used for medical research, the 16 year old getting the abortion won't have the abortion?


You've missed the point. Once you couple abortion to medical research, you've provided an incentive for the former. It's the exact same reason why harvesting organs from executed prisoners is streng verboten. They're dead anyway, right? It's unseemly, and provides a distasteful incentive.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (oKE6c)

253
Numer of medical treatments obtained from using adult stem cells: Literally THOUSANDS.

Number of medical treatments obtained from using embryonic stem stells?: ZERO.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (8XRCm)

254 >>I'm going to start saying president elect Hillary early.

Yes, well you were the same guy saying that the Republicans were going to lose big during the 2014 elections on election night no less so perhaps your electoral judgement is as spot on as your ethical judgement.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (OGm46)

255 248 You know, in my interactions with pro-aborts, almost inevitably they
will say, "Well, I am glad for abortion because I don't want my taxes
paying for all the welfare kids."


Yeah, they think all the babies they don't kill will end up criminal deadbeats--and yet, they love them some criminal deadbeats. They drive business.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:30 PM (/kI1Q)


So why do they support welfare at all?

Posted by: Iblis at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (9221z)

256 Hey Huck, "killing babies more creatively" doesn't really count towards useful medical advances.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (xSCb6)

257 What is evil about using tissue for medical research?

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Frankly, I'm much more concerned with the actual killing part than the subsequent sale. The latter is just shining light on the actual practice and the group behind it. But I would be in favor of defunding PP with or without the selling of organs from those who never gave their consent (just like organ donor cards).

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (gmeXX)

258 I don't care if its a winning or losing issue. I don't care what this does for GOP chances in 2016. I don't care what happens to a politician. I care that this is an unconscionable evil at a vast scale which cannot be allowed to continue, period. Some things are worth fighting no matter what it costs.

But I guess some people are so ethically empty they have no comprehension of this issue.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (39g3+)

259 253
Numer of medical treatments obtained from using adult stem cells: Literally THOUSANDS.

Number of medical treatments obtained from using embryonic stem stells?: ZERO.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:31 PM (8XRCm)

Demonstrating that even their utilitarian argument is, what's the word...oh yeah, bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (2Ojst)

260 "Well, I am glad for abortion because I don't want my taxes
paying for all the welfare kids."


Note the encoded racist assumption that aborted (primarily black) kids will be on welfare.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (S+N7W)

261 As a non thinking stupid young (20 yr old) male. I had the abortion conversation with a girl I knocked up who became my wife. Lucky for me and my daughter the decision was life. That group of cells grew into a great kid and now a great mother. Without her my life would have a lot less meaning, And without my grandkids my life would have a lot less happiness. A life without others that need your support and who give you a reason to keep being productive to give some support back isn't a real life IMO.

Posted by: Willy J at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (C9vjV)

262 235 My wife's position on these video's is it's just another attack by the republicans to outlaw abortion. She is most defiantly in the "this is a war on women" camp.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (S+el1)

________

Your wife and tens of millions of other women. This is why Republicans lose women over and over. And yet every 4 years they just can't help themselves.

Oh well. There's always 2020....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (0LHZx)

263 Sorry, to follow on, the same argument applies to embryonic stem cell collection generally. It raises the specter of conceiving a baby in order to harvest its stem cells (perhaps to save a sibling).


And that's repugnant.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (oKE6c)

264 Old and busted: The Pentagon Papers! Yay whistleblowers! Yay lawbreaking!

The new hotness: CMP videos? Boo whistleblowers! Boo lawbreaking!

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 12:33 PM (j1VIK)

265 So are you saying the sale of organs from murdered people is okay because they would get murdered anyway?



AND, they may not have been murdered if there was no profit.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:33 PM (ZsRLP)

266 "5th Planned Parenthood Video Drops"

How about

"After water breaks, 5th Planned Parenthood Video starts to crown."

Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2015 12:33 PM (jBuUi)

267 Even the vehemently pro choice person who understands the law understands AB rights center around mitigation of maternal risk . Considerations that are unrelated, which increase risk through extended operating times, or otherwise upping potential for obstetric injury or infection, are altogether improper.

Posted by: sarahw at August 04, 2015 12:33 PM (3fTXW)

268 230

Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 04, 2015 12:27 PM (evdj2)


Twitter's Law: there is someone on the internet who will earnestly defend anything, no matter how horrid.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 04, 2015 12:33 PM (FhT/k)

269 235 My wife's position on these video's is it's just another attack by the republicans to outlaw abortion. She is most defiantly in the "this is a war on women" camp.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (S+el1)



Maybe she's just campaigning for repeal of the 19th Amendment. Doing a bang-up job of it too, I'd say.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (oKE6c)

270 What the troll is too dense to understand is that making economic reward for abhorrent behavior will evolve into more and more abhorrent behavior. Dumb ass.

Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (xWW96)

271 **runs**

Posted by: fixerupper


Don't bother unless you can outrun a Raptor.

Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (/Ho8c)

272 153 So where the hell were these abortionists in 1961, when they could have done the nation a service?- Jay. Guevara

Not to mention today is The National Disgrace's birthday. With PP approved blessings. Gag.

Posted by: Rex B at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (igEaG)

273 270 What the troll is too dense to understand is that making economic reward for abhorrent behavior will evolve into more and more abhorrent behavior. Dumb ass.
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (xWW96)



Thank you for stating so succinctly and cogently what I was trying to say.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (oKE6c)

274 Words are cheap. Actions matter.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy


You should have heard the staff member's voice when he told me Lindsey Graham did in fact miss the vote to defund PP. Must suck having a douchebag for a boss.

Posted by: Dang at August 04, 2015 12:34 PM (2oWD2)

275 None of this is true because PP says it isn't

Posted by: The White House at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (nO30P)

276 67 by #9 we'll all be vomiting profusely
I stopped watching after the first 2. I just can't.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2015 11:55 AM (qCMvj)

My wife lost our second child to a late miscarriage, I can't watch any of it. People who tear living babies to pieces for profit are slavers and murderers.

Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (ueOgE)

277 ***"I'm going to start saying president elect Hillary early.


Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)"***


You were going to vote for her anyway, you silly little fart.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (xSCb6)

278 So the evidence that this is a losing issue for the GOP is that we nominated a person who was pro-choice as recently as 10 years ago who never actually campaigned on abortion other than to merely say he was pro-life.

Posted by: SH at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (gmeXX)

279 I can only hope they have a video showing the true racist colors of PP - you know, how they want to abort black babies because blacks are poor and violent. In other words, PP living up to the eugenic vision of Sanger.


If that video is out there and is coming - and I'd bet it is - then maybe that will be the straw that stirs the drink. We've heard Democrats crow about black lives mattering and rant about police violence against blacks.


In light of that, I'd like to hear them defend PP for its racist eugenic mission.

Posted by: MacGruber at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (FEAjO)

280 Mr. Moo Moo: defender of the rape enablers of Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (zt+N6)

281 O/T but of note:

Trump is attacking Hillary's galpal Huma Abedin as a security risk because of Mr. Weiner.

http://tinyurl.com/p6xmfo5

Again, I'm not a Trump guy, but this is how you attack an opponent like Hillary. Kick them right in the balls.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (wtvvX)

282 275 None of this is true because PP says it isn't
Posted by: The White House at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (nO30P)

Who you going to believe? People who profit from killing babies and chopping them up or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Cecile Richards at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (2Ojst)

283 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"

Posted by: Iblis at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (9221z)

284 That Leah Torres ghoul in the post is an enigma. When I first looked her up, she seemed to be practicing in Bear Lake, Utah. But she posts on Twitter WAY too much to be a practicing Dr.

So I just went back to confirm and the clinic seems to have removed that page.
Here's the link: http://www.blchc.org/torres-leah-md/
Here's the cached page: http://goo.gl/8mQe3n

Posted by: bonhomme at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (jhqr1)

285 My wife lost our second child to a late miscarriage, I can't watch any of it. People who tear living babies to pieces for profit are slavers and murderers.
Posted by: Agent J at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (ueOgE)

I am very, very sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (2Ojst)

286 They will never be defunded. NEVER.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (s/yC1)

287 Banhammer time?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (wtvvX)

288 Note the encoded racist assumption that aborted (primarily black) kids will be on welfare.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (S+N7W)



I don't see any reference to race in the original comment. Black welfare recipients don't cost any more than white ones, and God knows there's a boatload of them.


So I'd holster the racism charges.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (oKE6c)

289 They aren't profiting from this though! How do we know? They told us they aren't!

Posted by: Reason at August 04, 2015 12:36 PM (HstNY)

290 Did 2012 not happen? Was it all a dream?"

See "election results, 2010 and 2014"...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (C9pBZ)

291 262

Yes, let's not interfere with a woman's right to choose me as the only candidate.

Posted by: Hillary at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (bpemY)

292 My wife's position on these video's is it's just another attack by the republicans to outlaw abortion. She is most defiantly in the "this is a war on women" camp.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:29 PM (S+el1)

-------------------------------

So you're saying that I can expect her full support in '16 then.....


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (HSmrB)

293 It raises the specter of conceiving a baby in order to harvest its stem cells (perhaps to save a sibling).



Kind of old news.
http://is.gd/Gzv1O6

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (/kI1Q)

294 ***"What the troll is too dense to understand is that making economic reward for abhorrent behavior will evolve into more and more abhorrent behavior. Dumb ass."***



But but but, the Slippery Slope is a fallacy!!!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (xSCb6)

295 Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to retrieve usable specimens from the "Products of conception" isn't it true that they can't use a "feticide" (never thought I'd type that word). This means that the baby can feel the pain as it is being torn to pieces or crushed in certain places. In order to profit from the sale of the parts.
Posted by: Timon at August 04, 2015 12:28 PM (ZDJwC)

My understanding from the videos is that some tissue buying companies do not want tissue that has been injected with one of the two different chemicals that are used to kill a fetus first before aborting it. So yes, the fetus is alive when it is extracted and much of what is being discussed over dinner in these videos is how to pull a viable fetus out of a uterus without crushing it's head or tearing an organ such as a liver. The doc talks about different techiniques and how some abortionists are more skilled and better with their hands and instruments than others at ripping the fetus out.

This is one of the reasons for the heavy twilight sleep anesthesia that some women die from at abortions clinics, if they don't die from bleeding to death.

But of course, we cannot ask that abortion clinics have hospital connections, that would be a war on women.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (YP6Ap)

296 281 O/T but of note:

Trump is attacking Hillary's galpal Huma Abedin as a security risk because of Mr. Weiner.

http://tinyurl.com/p6xmfo5

Again, I'm not a Trump guy, but this is how you attack an opponent like Hillary. Kick them right in the balls.


Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (wtvvX)


I'd attack her herself rather than her husband due to her connections with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:38 PM (zt+N6)

297
Like Barack Obama, the single source for much of the popularized story of Planned Parenthood is Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 04, 2015 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

298 Evil bastards.

Posted by: Y-not at August 04, 2015 12:38 PM (RWGcK)

299 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"

When those who govern become dictators, civil disobedience is no longer merely an option, but an obligation. How many divisions does that judge command?

Posted by: Qoheleth at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (iIzG7)

300 Ignore the morally bankrupt Mooing Cow.

Posted by: lurkingestlurker at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (k8xvx)

301 Note the encoded racist assumption that aborted (primarily black) kids will be on welfare."

That was my plan all along...

Posted by: Margaret Vac-u-suc Sanger at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (C9pBZ)

302 In light of that, I'd like to hear them defend PP for its racist eugenic mission.
Posted by: MacGruber at August 04, 2015 12:35 PM (FEAjO)

-------

Since symbols of the past **cough confederateflags cough** are now fair game....

.... somebody needs to be buying huge amounts of TV airtime and runs ads quoting Planned Parenthoods esteemed racist founder, Margaret Sanger.... over... and over...and over.....and over.

Make Planned Parenthood *own* their racist roots.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (8XRCm)

303
For Sale:
One compact liver. black. Low mileage, only one owner.
$125 OBO

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (/eTPT)

304 Number of medical treatments obtained from using embryonic stem stells?: ZERO.

And, to make matters even worse for this idiotic argument: several independent labs in multiple countries have come up with a process that causes adult stem cells to have the same properties as embryonic stem cells. So they aren't even necessary for the failed research.

Oh, and the fact that the roughly 350,000 babies born every day around the world involve a placenta which contains embryonic stem cells puts a final nail in the coffin.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (39g3+)

305
So you're saying that I can expect her full support in '16 then.....


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (HSmrB)

Hate to say it, but yea and my 18 yr old daughter.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (S+el1)

306 The President has no comment on this because he has not read about it yet in the newspapers. When the Times and NPR start covering it, then the President will be aware of it.

Posted by: The White House at August 04, 2015 12:40 PM (nO30P)

307 Maybe she's just campaigning for repeal of the 19th Amendment. Doing a bang-up job of it too, I'd say.


More likely that she or someone she's close to has had (at least one) an abortion and keeping it legal makes her feel less shitty about it.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 12:40 PM (/kI1Q)

308 This is one of the reasons for the heavy twilight sleep anesthesia that some women die from at abortions clinics, if they don't die from bleeding to death.

But of course, we cannot ask that abortion clinics have hospital connections, that would be a war on women.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 04, 2015 12:37 PM (YP6Ap)


I posted a few weeks back that I have actually been in an abortion mill. Blood on the floor in the "or's" Buckets on the floor next to the OR tables. Fucking awful feel to the place...

Posted by: Timon at August 04, 2015 12:40 PM (ZDJwC)

309
Hate to say it, but yea and my 18 yr old daughter.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (S+el1)

Dude. I don't know whether to slap you upside the head or buy you a few drinks. Maybe one then the other.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:40 PM (2Ojst)

310 I'd attack her herself rather than her husband due to her connections with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:38 PM (zt+N6)



Good point, but hell, at this juncture use 'em both.


This is a knife fight in an alley. The Marquis of Queensbury rules do not apply.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (oKE6c)

311 299 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"

When those who govern become dictators, civil disobedience is no longer merely an option, but an obligation. How many divisions does that judge command?


Posted by: Qoheleth at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (iIzG7)



Apparently they haven't figured out yet how to get all of the videos blocked so only certain videos involving a specific interview has been blocked.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (zt+N6)

312 Hmmm.

I'm not a lawyer, but neither is baby killer MD up there.

In any case I think her interpretation is wrong. Yes surgeons alter procedures a lot. But the law gets to intention.
Now yes, a good defense would try to come up with a myriad of other reasons the abortion (read: baby murder) was altered, and such a defense might work in many instances. But Baby Killer, MD's interpretation is just stupid.

Also, sugereons just can't alter procedures willy-nilly, if they do that and something goes wrong, oh boy the liability it burns.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (tM4uk)

313 261, beautifully put...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (LGkEE)

314 In the first video, Nucatola says that the procedures can be changed and are changed all the time to avoid crushing tissue they want to sell and that as long as you say you are going to do something one way at the beginning, you can change it later every fucking time. They are falsifying medical records and that is a felony. Not that anything will ever be said or done about it.

Posted by: huerfano at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (bynk/)

315
When a culture or society has reached the level of corruption and decadence witnessed in these videos, it has reached the tipping point. It will fall quickly or slowly, but inexorably.

The only hope for this world is the swift judgement of Jesus Christ Himself.

Posted by: citizen 349567812 at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (LPHFE)

316 None of this should diminish the good work PP does.......mainly funding liberal Democrats campaign coffers.

Posted by: The White House at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (nO30P)

317 There is a big difference between this stuff and slavery. Slavery was actually covered by the Constitution. This crap is not covered anywhere and is made up law by the courts.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (GpgJl)

318 These people just give me the creeps. Where is their humanity?

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (/eTPT)

319
It's time to attach "baby killer" to the name of each Senator who voted
against defunding PP yesterday, making it clear that these monsters
chose funding what is in these videos over sending that funding to
medical organizations and centers that actually care about women's
health over aborting babies. Baby killer was used illegitimately by the
Left against out young men drafted to fight in Vietnam. It's time to
use it legitimately and give them a taste of their own medicine. Baby
Killer should be attached to each of their names for the rest of their
lives.


I suggest Baby Butcher. BB mirrors PP, and it points out that they don't just kill; they sell the parts for profit as a profession.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (+2//H)

320 I just can't stomach this, and what really pisses me off is a Lion that nobody in Africa gives 2 craps about gets more headlines..

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (MwvYT)

321 305

Thanks for your support, single issue voter.

Posted by: Hillary at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (bpemY)

322 so what happened to the TRO that was issued by the Obama-drone judge?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (664w+)

323 So Huck Akin says the Republicans are going to keep losing, despite their massive gains since 2010, and that abortions are totes awesome for medical research purposes, despite the complete lack of evidence for this claim.


Why hasn't this dishonest little shit been banned yet?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (xSCb6)

324 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"



Off CONUS server, or FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (ZsRLP)

325 More likely that she or someone she's close to has had (at least one) an abortion and keeping it legal makes her feel less shitty about it.

I've known her since she was 5 and dated/married to her since 17. So I know it's not her or close friends.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:43 PM (S+el1)

326 324 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"



Off CONUS server, or FYNQ.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (ZsRLP)


Either way, I'm good. The judge took a big fat shit on the Constitution then wiped his ass with the Bill of Rights. He can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:43 PM (2Ojst)

327 Pardon my ignorance but who is moo moo? Tia

Posted by: Sunny at August 04, 2015 12:44 PM (Xnxty)

328 Apparently they haven't figured out yet how to get all of the videos blocked so only certain videos involving a specific interview has been blocked.

Posted by: buzzion at August 04, 2015 12:41 PM (zt+N6)




They should put out the banned videos but with the video itself blacked out, bearing an inscription that that was done on order of [whatever the judge's full name and title is]. And leave the audio intact.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:44 PM (oKE6c)

329 They will never be defunded. NEVER.

Oh it will be eventually, but not any time soon and not from congress.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:44 PM (39g3+)

330
>> I was encouraged to abort my daughter after her heart defect was detected in utero.

She's now a very rambunctious little 5 year old pixie. She's had one surgery, and will need another procedure in the future.
* * *
Same here!! They found my son's heart defects during the 17 week sonogram. No one suggested abortion, just very careful information shared about our options and additional test for some scary genetic defects. We also started seeing a pediatric cardiologist where my unborn kid, not me, was the patient (so, not a clump of cells)

He's now 12, an absolute delight.
The multiple surgeries, heart caths, etc. were not a small thing, but so very worth it.
---
it's never too late...

Posted by: Peter Singer at August 04, 2015 12:44 PM (/eTPT)

331 center. Yet here is a PP Houston staffer talking like itis a center for scientific research. They arrange their donations to go to a local university, IIRC.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 11:53 AM (NOIQH)


:Looks at ORI and OHRP:
Hmm, big giant agencies that have been used as cudgels before. TO ARMS!

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (tM4uk)

332 Dude. I don't know whether to slap you upside the head or buy you a few drinks. Maybe one then the other.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 04, 2015 12:40 PM (2Ojst)

I cancel out my wife, my son cancels my daughter so there is that.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (S+el1)

333 For years, maybe still, a lot of his research was sealed away to never be used. The medical and scientific community decided that how he got the information was so evil they couldn't justify using it, no matter how valuable it might have been.

Are you sure about that? The Nazis cold water survival research was absolutely used by our scientists. High pressure and vacuum stuff too. I think one of the things Mengele worked on that was useful that we refused to do was field transfusions from a lost cause dying man into another dying man who could possibly survive. That was too calculated and ghastly.

Mengele did a bunch of awful experiments on twins that was scientifically absolutely useless. We didn't use any of that because there was no merit to it. At all.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (jhqr1)

334 Farrell also indicates to the investigators over lunch that the specimen sales from her department contribute significantly to Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast#8217;s overall finances: #8220;I think everyone realizes, especially because my department contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here, you know we#8217;re one of the largest affiliates, our Research Department is the largest in the United States. Larger than any the other affiliates#8217; combined.#8221;

But.. but... I thought PP was making hardly anything at all from this traffic in body parts other than recouping its expenses. So it was totes OK.

That's what the PP/Whitehouse spokesperson told us, anyway.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (j1VIK)

335 We Live In An Arugula Republic

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (7Sop


Arugulatina?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Back-to-School Sale on Lunchboxes, Accusations at the Outrage Outlet! at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (hLRSq)

336 I just can't stomach this, and what really pisses me off is a Lion that nobody in Africa gives 2 craps about gets more headlines..

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (MwvYT)




Because the lion wasn't aborted, silly.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (oKE6c)

337 "Donald Trump says that he supports shutting down the government to defund Planned Parenthood in the wake of a series of controversial undercover videos of organization officials."

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at August 04, 2015 11:54 AM (Y90CU)


Good for him. The Donald is the only candidate who can keep shoving this issue down the throats of the MFM and their Dem and GOPe allies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (zF6Iw)

338 324 How did they get the video out around the judges order? Or are they just saying "Fuck it! Full power now! Damn you!"







Off CONUS server, or FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:42 PM (ZsRLP)

The original order was from a State judge in CA so it had no authority out of State. Now there is a new order from a federal judge that apples to the whole region and generally nationwide.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (GpgJl)

339 This is, at best, a local crime story. Hey, but we have a hard hitting follow up story on the parking tickets Marco Rubio's wife has gotten!

Posted by: The New York Times at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (nO30P)

340 10 Sell body parts

20 Donate to the party of death

30 Garner party of death support

GOTO 10

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (fWAjv)

341 I suggest Baby Butcher. BB mirrors PP, and
it points out that they don't just kill; they
sell the parts for profit as a profession.


Seconded.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (gECZB)

342 Slavery was actually covered by the Constitution./i]

No it wasn't. The only mention was a small compromise to block slave states from counting powerless non-voters they considered not human for the purposes of congressional representation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:46 PM (39g3+)

343 Aruguluvia.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 04, 2015 12:47 PM (C9pBZ)

344 I cancel out my wife, my son cancels my daughter so there is that.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:45 PM (S+el1)



I'm seeing a pattern here.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 04, 2015 12:47 PM (oKE6c)

345 Well there goes any urges for lunch.

*runs for the porcelain goddess to vacate stomach*

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 04, 2015 12:47 PM (i96Kk)

346 Money is fungible.

Expenses are flexible.

Procedures are malleable.

Actions can be rationalized,

And hearts are hardenable.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (oVJmc)

347 Nood. Welfare in the Netherlands. Or something.

Posted by: Qoheleth at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (iIzG7)

348 >>They are falsifying medical records and that is a felony. Not that anything will ever be said or done about it.

They're also withholding information from patients and doing procedures based on what they want vs. what is best for the patient. Potentially putting their female patients at risk for the sake of an intact sample?

Also, do patients typically know when they're part of a study or donating tissue samples?

I recall when our son had surgery at CHOP they asked if they could take blood samples and access medical records as part of a study into what may cause his kind of heart defects. So there was an up-front consent requested and given. I would bet that buried in the fine print of their patient forms there is something about donations, but this is likely never discussed with the patients, and they sure as hell haven't been advertising these so-called good woks via tissue donations as part of their PR.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (NOIQH)

349
Hate to say it, but yea and my 18 yr old daughter.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 04, 2015 12:39 PM (S+el1)

--------------------

Hmmmm,, sooo,,,, will they be making a donation to my campaign? And if so,,, can I assume that half of your wife's donation is/was yours?


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (HSmrB)

350 327 Pardon my ignorance but who is moo moo? Tia

Posted by: Sunny at August 04, 2015 12:44 PM (Xnxty)

HUCK/AKIN

AoS moral authority and over all self made billionaire

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (fWAjv)

351 Mengele blushes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2015 12:48 PM (659DL)

352 ..... wrg500....wow.......i'm sorry....i'll pray you keep your sanity and i'll pray they get some.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 04, 2015 12:49 PM (0O7c5)

353 Hey fuckface some things are more important than the dam republican party and how many of their politicians win.
Human life over politics, right? RIGHT???

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 04, 2015 12:49 PM (WjXce)

354 If no laws are being broken then how hundreds of thousands of people receive the death penalty every year in PP abattoirs? They must have done something wrong to deserve that. They can't all be innocent. Like the jails, the specimen jars and medical waste cans and are filled with innocent people.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 04, 2015 12:49 PM (kfcYC)

355
Yep. Thats how we know how long humans can stay alive in freezing water. Delightful, no?
--
so i did that for Nothing???

Posted by: Jack Dawson at August 04, 2015 12:49 PM (/eTPT)

356 261 As a non thinking stupid young (20 yr old) male. I had the abortion conversation with a girl I knocked up who became my wife. Lucky for me and my daughter the decision was life. That group of cells grew into a great kid and now a great mother. Without her my life would have a lot less meaning, And without my grandkids my life would have a lot less happiness. A life without others that need your support and who give you a reason to keep being productive to give some support back isn't a real life IMO.
Posted by: Willy J at August 04, 2015 12:32 PM (C9vjV)

________

And that's great...FOR YOU. For others it would be a horrific decision. Watch that show on MTV called 16 and pregnant and tell me how awesome having a baby can be.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (0LHZx)

357 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (gECZB)

358 Dear Planned Parenthood,

When Jesus returns, I'm going to stand over here, ok?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (659DL)

359 Are you sure about that? The Nazis cold water survival research was absolutely used by our scientists.

I'm reasonably confident, but not necessarily all of it got locked up. And it might have been peeked at later, particularly by NASA.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)

360 I posted a few weeks back that I have actually been in an abortion mill. Blood on the floor in the "or's" Buckets on the floor next to the OR tables. Fucking awful feel to the place...

What you were feeling was the absence of the Lord's Spirit. I've been a few places where I stopped mid-stride and turned around because I felt the Spirit retreat. One was a decommissioned prison that offered self-guided tours. I've never been to one of the Nazi death camps, but I imagine the same thing would happen there.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (jhqr1)

361 Timon, I have had friends report similar feelings when walking through the grounds at Auschwitz. The miasma of pain and evil still lingers there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 04, 2015 12:52 PM (i96Kk)

362 40 A certain "unserious" candidate has just come out in favor of shutting down the government over Murder Inc. funding calling it disgraceful.

I'm liking the cut of that mans jib more and more. ...

Posted by: Kreplach

One shutdown to defund all the shit. Get it done and move on.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 04, 2015 12:53 PM (kfcYC)

363 The left will lie through its rotten teeth, break the law and do whatever it wants to further its agenda. It would be nice if someone stood up to them. But we need to break the hold the MFM has on the message.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 04, 2015 12:53 PM (OE2ur)

364


all drinking aside:

Limbaugh @ 12:39 causes me to say:

MOTHERFUCKERS. MOTHERFUCKERS.

These horible EVIL Motherfuckers.

Oh, fuck them. FUCK THEM!!!!

SHUT DOWN this goddamn Baby Chop Shop. NOW.

FILTHY. DISGUSTING - beyond all - DISGUSTING!

________________STOP THEM !!! ______________







Posted by: _Dave_ at August 04, 2015 12:53 PM (l2dSQ)

365 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)

It's pretty complicated what happened.

It was locked up, then it wasn't. Then there were questions of how useful it actually was...

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 04, 2015 12:54 PM (tM4uk)

366 Read Kurt Shlichter in the side-bar. Blistering hot stuff. It hot stuff with hot sauce on it, drowning in raw peppers.

And most every single person here would probably agree with him, in spades.

Posted by: MTF at August 04, 2015 12:54 PM (LISuA)

367 I cancel out my wife, my son cancels my daughter so there is that.

And this is how Hillary wins. Because there are more men who'll cross over to vote for her than women who will cross over to vote against. And women outnumber men.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:55 PM (39g3+)

368 I think I've read that Mengele did research on how long people could survive before drowning. The US did use the results.

And unless I missed it, no one on this thread mentioned that Jindal cut all state funding to PP. It's a start.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 04, 2015 12:58 PM (5HBd1)

369 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:55 PM (39g3+)

Not all of us are imbeciles. And remember, married white women vote GOP.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 12:58 PM (u0lmX)

370 I honestly don't understand how - when culturally our population has grown so far apart as illustrated by the disparate reactions to these videos - so many otherwise sane people can see anything other than inevitable civil war in our future.

Posted by: YouKnowWho at August 04, 2015 12:59 PM (33O8j)

371 359 Are you sure about that? The Nazis cold water survival research was absolutely used by our scientists.

I'm reasonably confident, but not necessarily all of it got locked up. And it might have been peeked at later, particularly by NASA.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)

There was a similar argument that arose from the research the Japanese did on Chinese and other prisoners during WW2. Really scary shit.

Posted by: Iblis at August 04, 2015 01:01 PM (9221z)

372 But last week a federal judge in San Francisco issued another
restraining order against releasing ANY future videos, not just the ones
involving the StemExpress officials.

Anyone seen this order?

Posted by: Penfold at August 04, 2015 01:02 PM (Fbt5B)

373 Whole babies? Was Alex Jones right? They're selling whole babies to be wrapped in gold foil and eaten? (heavy on the snark here, comrades)

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2015 01:02 PM (go5uR)

374
You can have our baby parts whenyouprytheircold, dead hands from us

Posted by: PP at August 04, 2015 01:02 PM (/eTPT)

375 Look, anyone with a conscience has a very limited range of choices here when confronted with this:

1) Its evil and must stop, Planned Parenthood is ghastly
2) It must be all some clever trick and none of it is actually true
3) Change the channel, I don't want to look.


Second look at Scott Roeder?

I'm joking, of course, but how much more of this before that the question of using force to stop it becomes germane? If the government does nothing? If you saw someone on the street grab a baby out of a carriage and attempt to dash its brains out against a wall, you're be perfectly justified, even applauded for, violently stopping him, wouldn't you? This is a very weighty ethical dilemma we're facing as a nation and as individuals.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 04, 2015 01:02 PM (WvS3w)

376 Did I do that?

Posted by: Penfold at August 04, 2015 01:03 PM (Fbt5B)

377 Fuck Cecil... I feel sorry for Gary the Gazelle

Posted by: Big Freakin Al at August 04, 2015 01:03 PM (iWo0u)

Posted by: Iblis at August 04, 2015 01:04 PM (9221z)

379 And that's great...FOR YOU. For others it would be a horrific decision.
Watch that show on MTV called 16 and pregnant and tell me how awesome
having a baby can be.>>>

Better than a 20yr old that killed some family in a DUI. Yeah decisions we make can have sucky consequences. Horrific is a really strong word for 2 people giving and supporting an new life. And even more stupid since EBT and section 8 exist. To watch a child starve would be a reason for abortion but that can't happen today if a parent cares.

Posted by: Willy J at August 04, 2015 01:04 PM (C9vjV)

380 I think that this is funny. We should ignore this and concentrate on my brand of fiscal genius.

Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 04, 2015 01:04 PM (Spluw)

381 If you oppose this then you are an oppressor of women.


Posted by: Fair Taxman at August 04, 2015 01:04 PM (W5DcG)

382 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 04, 2015 12:50 PM (0LHZx)

Asshole, there is something called "adoption" for those 16 year olds who are pregnant. No shortage of people who want to adopt kids - which is why Americans are paying big bucks and flying around the world to do it. Yes, it's emotionally difficult to give a kid up for adoption - but at least the child is alive, not dead.

I already knew you have the morals of a jackal - thanks for confirming it. I feel incredibly sorry for your children, who have an amoral asshole for a father.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at August 04, 2015 01:04 PM (u0lmX)

383 In an unexpected development, the Butchers Union says it will not be organizing Planned Parenthood.
Spokesperson says they may work with all types of meat, including exotic animals, but draws the line at human flesh.




Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at August 04, 2015 01:06 PM (uPxUo)

384 I already knew you have the morals of a jackal - thanks for confirming it. I feel incredibly sorry for your children, who have an amoral asshole for a father.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands)

I'll have you know that every litter I've produced have won awards.

Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 04, 2015 01:06 PM (Spluw)

385 I always say that Republicans and especially the right wing of the party are not focussed enough on winning. But I draw the line on the PP slaughter houses. I dont care if there are majorities supporting them or not. Republicans must shut these butchers down.

Posted by: Begonia at August 04, 2015 01:08 PM (gap4B)

386 I'm grateful these videos are shining light on this horrible issue. I also wish they were changing more minds. But think what that would require. People who have had an abortion or supported the right to do so would have to face this reality AND their complicit guilt in it. That is a huge thing and most people just won't let their mind go there. It would alter their self view too much.

I don't know the answer to this dilemma. God will hopefully touch their conscience.

Posted by: Beth M at August 04, 2015 01:09 PM (kiy9d)

387
Old and busted: The Pentagon Papers! Yay whistleblowers! Yay lawbreaking!

You don't have to go back anywhere near that far. Edward Snowden ring a bell? He is just dreamy to the left, and he busted a hell of a lot more laws than just some TRO.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 04, 2015 01:10 PM (DLu2s)

388 Killing italics, even though there's a NOOD up yonder.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2015 01:10 PM (RzZOc)

389 all drinking aside:

Let's not get hasty.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 04, 2015 01:19 PM (/kI1Q)

390 We got an offer from HUCK/AKIN a while back. Said he and some female created the tissue. (Even claimed it was consensual. We pretended that we didn't know he paid double the going rate for the female's "services".)

Generously offered to let us keep the proceeds from the sale, too. Because research and all that.

While we agree that "parts is parts", we DO limit ourselves to human tissue.

Sadly we had to let the offer pass.

Posted by: RICHARDS/NUCATROLLA 2016 1/2 at August 04, 2015 01:36 PM (h8UWI)

391 No kidding.....we couldn't tell WTF was in that sample dish.

It wasn't any human parts that WE could recognize.

We're pretty good at picking those suckers out, ya know.

Posted by: RICHARDS/NUCATROLLA 2016 1/2 at August 04, 2015 01:37 PM (h8UWI)

392 141 137 Since the stupid lion story is dying down and MMfA hasn't found anything comparably stupid, it looks like it's time for the MSM to pivot back to Bruce Jenner's dick.

So He still has it?
Posted by: donna at August 04, 2015 12:09 PM (hUdMz)


More than the entire Republican Establishment has.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at August 04, 2015 02:31 PM (dPpmC)

393 Just finished watching this 5th video, after watching all the others. The last two have left me feeling sick, and I actually feel a little feverish now. I don't know how much more I can watch. Something in me says "I can't watch any more," but something else in my says, "You have to. You know you have to." And to think I was once an apologist for free access to abortion, back in my newspaper days. How much damage did I do? How much blood is on my hands?

I've fallen at the feet of Jesus, asking him to forgive me and to scrub all the other sins out of my soul. I probably wouldn't feel the way I do now if He hadn't. But I weep and pray for this country when we have to debate whether this is evil or not, and whether we should stop it. We have to, or we are lost as a nation . . .sorry, I can't write any more . . .

Posted by: DynamiteDan at August 04, 2015 02:42 PM (BaDMP)

394 You have permission to be outraged about this issue, which your GOP betters will do jack shit to address.

Posted by: Cecil the Lion at August 04, 2015 02:43 PM (vYoQI)

395 We don't no nothing 'bout birthin' no babies!

Posted by: Butterfly McQueen at August 04, 2015 02:49 PM (Z8BWe)

396
@ comment # 389: LMFAO!

- but that's after the face (of imbibing).










Posted by: _Dave_ at August 04, 2015 04:04 PM (l2dSQ)

397

sorry, "face" = fact



Posted by: _Dave_ at August 04, 2015 04:06 PM (l2dSQ)

398 Remember liberals call fetuse's parasites, and a gob of cells yet it's perfectly okay if PP uses expectant mothers as incubators where they harvest their baby's body parts and tissue for retail sale. Jesus wept they should be in jail.

Posted by: Rose at August 04, 2015 04:11 PM (/1Oxb)

399 A good link listing Planned Abortionhood's campaign donations list.

http://tinyurl.com/px9eg8p

A summation:

Grand Total: $6,509,203
Total For Democrats: $1,395,681
Total Against Democrats: $0
Total For Republicans: $0
Total Against Republicans: $5,113,522

Posted by: RickZ at August 04, 2015 04:28 PM (HEtQ3)

400 Planned Abortionhood gave over $1M to Barry alone. That is why neither he, nor anyone in his Administration, can be bothered to watch these very disturbing videos.

Posted by: RickZ at August 04, 2015 04:30 PM (HEtQ3)

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