aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Jeb Bush's Camp Calls Donald Trump a "Godsend" For Sucking Away the Oxygen From Any Potential Jeb Rival
Via Hot Air, Trump's popularity benefits Trump, but it's also great for Jeb!
A new oligarchic era of American politics came into full view on Friday, as super PACs disclosed fundraising details showing billionaires bankrolling the 2016 presidential race to an unprecedented degree. The unlimited-money super PACs account for one-third of all federal election funds raised in the first half of 2015 -- up from 4 percent at this time in the last presidential election. Three-quarters of all super PAC money came from more than 500 wealthy donors, corporations and unions in contributions above $100,000. More than half the money in the presidential race so far -- to super PACs and to campaigns -- came from donors who have given at least $100,000. For the first time in more than a century, the majority of funding for a presidential election is coming in six-figure or larger checks from corporations and the wealthiest Americans. The presidential campaigns, limited to a maximum of $5,400 from a single donor, raised a combined $128 million. Super PACs supporting those candidates pulled in $260 million, with $208 million from those giving $100,000 or more.Now, a political candidate needs votes, but even more importantly, I think, he needs money. I had hoped my friend Mike Flynn could make an impact in IL-18 with very little money (he raised $100,000, compared to LaHood's $850,000+), but he could not. To even keep the lights on in your campaign offices requires a lot of money. And voting comes later. Much later. For the next year, candidates need, more than anything else, money. You will not be around to try to grab up votes if you don't have the money to stay viable until balloting actually begins. And I think we all know how the Donor Class feels about amnesty, and the prospect of replacing broke-down old American workers with younger, hungrier foreign ones. So I'm thinking that all the candidates in the Money Primary have already made a series of commitments on amnesty precluding them from taking any kind of real position against it, beyond the standard litany of "border security first" (supposedly -- all those "Virtual Walls" they have tried selling us on for going on 10 years now). It's hard to see how anything can possibly change here, absent the transformative power of calamity. Scary and sad. Trump Now Has Biggest Lead Ever, Per Monmouth Poll: 26% support, 14 points ahead of Jeb!
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at August 03, 2015 03:54 PM (dPpmC)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 03, 2015 03:55 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 03, 2015 03:56 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 03, 2015 03:57 PM (go6ud)
And to think is supported freedom of speech while decrying Oligarchy.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 03:57 PM (48QDY)
Thanks, McCain!
Posted by: JR at August 03, 2015 03:57 PM (bKxJO)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 03:58 PM (48QDY)
Awesome
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 03, 2015 03:58 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: obami at August 03, 2015 03:59 PM (iFQn5)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Dog Tastes Good at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (fY+fw)
Posted by: Roland THTG at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (QM5S2)
I might want to eat and have heat in the next 8 years.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Dopey GOPe at August 03, 2015 04:01 PM (jWtyG)
Posted by: Titanium at August 03, 2015 04:01 PM (JLKJJ)
Posted by: Buzzion
Elect me and one will have sex with you....Often.
Posted by: Jeb! at August 03, 2015 04:02 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:02 PM (48QDY)
They just had to put that dig in there didn't they.
FUGOP!
Posted by: Baracky Da Beotch at August 03, 2015 04:02 PM (fO0en)
We tend to rally around the Koch Bros because they are attacked by the Left but all of these Presidential candidates are having to kiss that ring because they throw so much money into political races.
We sort of made a deal with the Devil
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:02 PM (cLP/C)
Posted by: West at August 03, 2015 04:03 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 03, 2015 04:00 PM (z/Ubi)
Insert money and I'll do whatever you want, Big Boy.
Posted by: Jeb! at August 03, 2015 04:03 PM (0cMkb)
_____________
Ready, willing, and able!
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at August 03, 2015 04:03 PM (2tLz4)
Posted by: Jeb, lookin' on the bright side at August 03, 2015 04:03 PM (bGLSw)
If Trump manages to win the GOP nomination, and I don't think he will, I will send a picture of my naked ass to the national GOP headquarter in care of Rancid Priebus, along with a recording of Nelson Muntz's laugh on infinite loop.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:03 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: Wodeshed, who really means it this time at August 03, 2015 04:04 PM (OeJe4)
My luck the robot would have a 24/7 headache like my wife.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:04 PM (FEAjO)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:04 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:04 PM (Ii765)
It's going to come down to Walker, Jeb, and Rubio. I could vote for 2 out of those 3.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:05 PM (cLP/C)
He's no Ronald Reagan.
We are so fcuked.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (0FSuD)
But the campaign still has a huge disadvantage in the actual candidate they are running.
Posted by: Roy at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:05 PM (cLP/C)
Make that 1 out of 3 for me. Just an FYI.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: Wodeshed, who really means it this time at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (OeJe4)
Well that explains why so many candidates have jumped into the race, doesn't it?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Back-to-School Sale on Lunchboxes, Accusations at the Outrage Outlet! at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (hLRSq)
My luck the robot would have a 24/7 headache like my wife.
Posted by: wrg500
I never said that you'd like it. It's prototype is mitch the bitch.
Posted by: Jeb! at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Dan in Michigan at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (2yD4G)
Who is the establishment's fall back candidate, 'cause Jeb's goin' down.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Rubio.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (kdS6q)
-----
Yep, its about money and influence. You get neither if you don't run. So might as well.
Posted by: SH at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Robot flounder at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (Vf5rR)
... it is said that most of JFK's campaign was financed by 3 people
Posted by: Robert Kennedy at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 03, 2015 04:08 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: Roy at August 03, 2015 04:08 PM (VndSC)
For president? that would be unique and kinky.
Posted by: Colin at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (tlI5H)
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:05 PM (cLP/C)
Make that 1 out of 3 for me. Just an FYI.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:06 PM (MT22W)
Yup.
Rubio is just a more gullible, less honorable Jeb!
Posted by: naturalfake at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (ucDmr)
"The Kasich juggernaut!" -- Mark Levin
Posted by: torquewrench at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (noWW6)
I'm pretty sure 1986 was more than 10 years ago.
I'm also pretty sure that the more Our Betters call the base insane, immature brats for supporting Trump, the more support Trump will get.
I've been kicking this idea around the last few days and I think I shall take it for a spin. Massive tl;dr to follow.
Our Betters are saying that the base is throwing a tantrum like spoiled brats by supporting Trump. Well, here's the thing. It is my understanding that when raising kids, it is a very bad idea indeed to promise the kids that if the kids do x then they will get reward y and then not give them that reward, absent serious external forces beyond the parent's control.
So, to push the spoiled brat analogy, the base was promised by the Establishment in 2010 that if the base was good and got straight As and didn't get in trouble and cleaned its room, then the Establishment would take it to Disney. The base did so. Then the Establishment sat the base down and explained, sadly, that the Boss was mean and wasn't giving the Establishment its bonus so no Disney. The base was upset but understood, though with some mumbling and feet stamping.
Then in 2012, the base was promised that if it was super good and got straight As and cleaned its room and was nice to old ladies, then Disney *and* ice cream. The base said okay and did its level best. The Establishment then had to admit that once again, no Disney and here, have these Brussels Sprouts. The base was really upset but maybe it wasn't perfect so okay fine whateverhands.
Then 2014 came around. The base was told if it was quiet and good and got straight As and cleaned its room and pitched in its allowance to the Disney fund and was nice to old ladies and shoveled snow and raked leaves, then Disney and ice cream and a new puppy. The base did all of that. The Establishment then went to Sandals with the Disney fund and told the sitter the kids were paleo so no sugar at all and oh, hey, yeah, Grandma is allergic so no puppy ever.
The base is now pitching a huge huge huge screaming toddler on the floor fit because the Establishment is lying to its fucking face and the base has had it.
If a parent lies frequently enough, then all parental authority is permanently lost.
I would say the base is well past that point. And the Establishment has only itself to blame.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (mf5HN)
There is really one thing that could get me to vote for Jeb!, no matter what.
Hillary.
***
Die fast or die slowly ain't much of a choice, man.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:10 PM (OeJe4)
Trump has helped me and I don't know how to repay his kindness and warmth.
Vote Jeb!2016.....because I have a purty mouth.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at August 03, 2015 04:10 PM (D0NZx)
Posted by: Petunia at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (0FSuD)
Why......let me channel mi inner Ricky Henderson
So Drew can write blog post about how Drew is selling out Drew and how Drew lied to Drew so Drew would vote for Drew.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (/HC6x)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (0cMkb)
I really liked Rubio until his love affair with Shumer, which meant one of two things:
1) Rubio shamelessly lied to get elected
2) He got easily rolled by Shumer
Actually, I'm not sure which of those things is worse.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (MT22W)
Remember that Romney! won the independents by a wide margin. I think after the McConnell disaster that twice as many of the base will stay home. I could be wrong might be three times as many.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (f+6Pd)
The key bit there is even Jeb knows conservatives won't vote for him. He is campaigning to steal Hillary voters. Said he wants to be like Lyndon Johnson.
We are boned either way, trump, hillary or jeb.
Conservatives have no part to play in 2016 other than state politics.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 04:12 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:12 PM (48QDY)
Trump Now Has Biggest Lead Ever, Per Monmouth Poll:
Per the WaPo's number crunching, that Monmouth poll pretty much dropped Perry from the finger-hang he had on the #10 spot. Down to #11 and a place at the kiddie table debate.
http://tinyurl.com/o4t6hvz
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 03, 2015 04:12 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: obami at August 03, 2015 04:13 PM (iFQn5)
Bravo.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2015 04:13 PM (SdfnP)
-------
Conservatives must start from the ground up.
Posted by: SH at August 03, 2015 04:13 PM (gmeXX)
As it stands now ... none of the above.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (FEAjO)
Nailed. It.
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (cbfNE)
I weary of the 'suck all of the oxygen out of the room' metaphor.
Chris Matthews regularly sucks all of the intellect out of the room, and there's no comment at all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (zyIlW)
Pretty spot on analogy.
Of course, I also use the same argument when it comes to the State Attorney promising the inner city Baltimorons the bodies of the six police officers, hoisted on crosses, to die for the sins of other Officers.
And then the real possibility that Golgotha II doesn't happen.
And the yoots throw a tantrum worse then the original unpleasantness was.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Dan in Michigan at August 03, 2015 04:07 PM (2yD4G)
I for one will NOT be staying home.
If Jebbie V Socialist Twat is the choice, I shall do my part to hasten the burning time. ST for the win!
ST gets my vote for all but one or two of the 16 GrOPers
Posted by: Baracky Da Beotch at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (fO0en)
You go girl.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: Blano at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (sdPF/)
There is really one thing that could get me to vote for Jeb!, no matter what.
Hillary.
***
Die fast or die slowly ain't much of a choice, man.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:10 PM (OeJe4)
GOPe 2016, We suck just a little less!
Posted by: Robot flounder at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (Vf5rR)
So, you might as well be boned with Jeb, amirite?
Posted by: Petunia at August 03, 2015 04:14 PM (O7MnT)
Rubio is just a more gullible, less honorable Jeb!
Posted by: naturalfake
I think all of them have very similar positions when it comes to illegal immigration. Even Rick Perry who was the TruCon favorite last cycle has shown he's a Hispandering Republican. But I would still vote for him over Hillary.
I've just come to the realization that the GOP is never going to share my views on immigration just like it's not going to share it on trade. It's been the free trade pro-immigrant party since WWII.
I can still vote for Rubio and Walker but Jeb is a bridge too far. It's probably not rational but it's one thing to have a candidate not agree with you on an issue, it's another that wants to smear it in your face on a regular basis and basically imply you're a racist.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:15 PM (cLP/C)
Rubio is just a more gullible, less honorable Jeb!
Posted by: naturalfake at August 03, 2015 04:09 PM (0cMkb)
Having meant both, Rubio comes off as a weaselly little dick. Jeb comes off as, hey MFer I am Bush. He's got a bad speech and a fat wife.
That's all I have.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:15 PM (0FSuD)
Analogy was great, except for the natural assumption that parents love their kids and have their best interests at heart in spite of (sometimes because of) the parental pain they need to occasionally inflict.
The GOP neither loves nor needs us. They don't mean to cause the pain they inflict on us -- they are indifferent. They simply do not care.
An extension to your illustration would be the parents looking dispassionately and thinking, amid the toddler meltdown, "Knock yourself out. We've already decided to sell you to the crackheads down the street tomorrow."
Posted by: Jeb, lookin' on the bright side at August 03, 2015 04:16 PM (bGLSw)
Seriously, fuck brussel sprouts.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:17 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (48QDY)
grab hold of the populist lightning that Trump has ridden to the top of
the polls.
Maybe I missed it, but has any other GOP candidate made any kind of attempt to grab the immigration issue and run with it?
BTW, why is it considered "populist" to favor securing our borders and stopping illegal immigration? I have never had a good understanding of the usage of that term. It seems to be used as kind of a more respectable phrase than "rabble-rousing", but both seem to suggest that the politician who is being described is catering to knuckle-draggers and the like.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (IN7k+)
1) Rubio shamelessly lied to get elected
2) He got easily rolled by Shumer
Actually, I'm not sure which of those things is worse.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (MT22W)
Be fair.
It's totally both.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Blano at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (NHQQx)
Seriously, fuck brussel sprouts.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:17 PM (zyIlW)
Brussel sprouts are the devil's vegetable, or would be if the devil were even more evil than he already is. Because little round green balls of poop.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (MT22W)
"came from donors who have given at least $100,000."
Chump change.I pay more than that in quarterly tax payments.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (OD2ni)
Here's a "debate" question: If you cannot manage a win in any of the early primary or caucus states Mr. Bush, as now appears possible or even likely, will you depart the race?
Posted by: MTF at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (lU0bX)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (bZQB+)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (2Ojst)
It's totally both.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (mf5HN)
Ah, you are correct. Choice "c", all of the above, should have been included.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:19 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:20 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:20 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: the GOP Democrats - Hoping for 2nd Place Again in 2016 at August 03, 2015 04:20 PM (1+7D3)
Posted by: Anton Chigurh at August 03, 2015 04:20 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (zyIlW)
Rubio is in it for money, and his amnesty hispandering is a means to an end. But I think he does love America, and understand the evils of communism, more than Jeb.
Jeb is simply a self-hating Democrat born i to a GOP family.
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: the GOP Democrats - Hoping for 2nd Place Again in 2016 at August 03, 2015 04:20 PM (1+7D3)
You forgot the Orval Faubus comparison and "anti-civil-rights" label.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Colin at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (tlI5H)
[ ] Jeb
[ ] Trump
[ ] Rubio
[x] Fecal peanut #4
***
Mr. Hanky: He's not just for Christmas any more
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:22 PM (OeJe4)
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:21 PM (cbfNE)
Married to a Latina and self loathing.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:22 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 03, 2015 04:22 PM (1RNgT)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at August 03, 2015 04:23 PM (oDCMR)
If a parent lies frequently enough, then all parental authority is permanently lost.
I would say the base is well past that point. And the Establishment has only itself to blame.
Posted by: alexthechick
The analogy would be apt if the GOP acted like adults instead of the craven snots that they are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2015 04:23 PM (VY8H5)
Another Bush.
Are these the same GOP geniuses who ran the GOTV for Romney?
Yes, Bush vs Clinton. Let's see how that works out for the GOP.
Bush, who increased spending and entitlement spending every year he was Florida governor.
Which is why he tells us we should be more "compassionate".
You see, that's why he spent all that taxpayer money. Because he's a nice guy and you're just a bunch of Tea Party meanies.
Oh and se habla espanol or something. That's his argument for his candidacy.
Honestly I don't know who is doinking these donors up the squaekhole, that they believe Busho the Clown can win? Smoking the cheeba maybe?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 03, 2015 04:23 PM (GGCsk)
So, you might as well be boned with Jeb, amirite?
Uh...no. doesn't matter. Jeb is just hillary in a man's pantsuit, but with less balls.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 04:23 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:18 PM (48QDY)
Walker or Perry. I have not met either. In fact amazing that as much money as I throw out there I have not been invited to an event. Perry stayed next to my beach house four years ago, but I never saw him.
I like both. If I thought Perry could win it, he would be my man.
I also like Carli Frolina (sp). ha ha. A women on the ticket would work for me. Walker/ Fora or Perry/ Fora
NO BUSH!
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:23 PM (0FSuD)
Know how the Bush family has always said that Jeb! was the one they thought was Presidential material?
I do not get that.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (OeJe4)
With no acceptable Republican alternative, at least there would be the enjoyable spectacle of Canquelles inheriting all of the horrible downstream consequences of the Obama presidency. And floundering.
Violent global chaos *and* a neutered, incapable military *and* economic stagnation *and* failing banking systems *and* crippling energy costs, hitting all at once. The very worst of the Jimmy Carter 1970s, on steroids.
But, but, but... I can hear the indignant spluttering now... but WHAT ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?!?!?!?!?
After Chief Justice John ("Obamacare is constitutional 'cause it's a tax") Roberts, SCOTUS staffing arguments from the establishment Republicans should no longer be accorded even the tiniest shred of attention.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (noWW6)
1) Rubio shamelessly lied to get elected
2) He got easily rolled by Shumer
Actually, I'm not sure which of those things is worse.
Posted by: physics geek at August 03, 2015 04:11 PM (MT22W)
I have similar feelings, but I do think Rubio is a genuine conservative he just has a soft-headed view on this issue coming from immigrant parents.
I can understand that being a bridge too far for some, but I still think Reagan was a great President despite the Amnesty he granted.
And honestly, I like the Trump show but I sure as hell don't trust him on this issue at all. Already he's backpeddaling and I would wager a good 50% of his employees are illegal.
Any guy that has Hillary at his wedding and called her a fantastic Senator is either a lying sack of shit or an idiot.
Let me know when we have a credible candidate that's a Border Hawk.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (cLP/C)
Posted by: Crude at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (DUynq)
These people hate Obama and Hillary, but they really seethe with rage at how the GOP has treated them. The GOP's betrayal has been worse than Obama in many ways because these people always knew Obama would be a far left winger. They didn't expect Obama to push a conservative agenda, but when they see the GOP ACTIVELY PUSHING LIBERALISM, their anger turns into blind rage and they figure there is no point in supporting any of the "regular" repubs, so they turn to Trump, because, hey we might lose with with him but who cares, we would lose with Jeb anyway and even if Jeb wins, we still lose cuz he would push liberalism. At least with Trump, we can hurt the people, GOP LEADERS, who have hurt us!
This is what is going on! We can whine about it all we want, but that is what is happening. Only the GOP leader repub country club fucks can change it, but they won't. They push liberalism and amnesty.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (COpZ4)
Throw in a few random beatings and some red-faced screaming about how we're ruining everything for them, and you've got it nailed.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (2Ojst)
Should Jeb win, isn't it more likely that R's will not provide enough consequential opposition to those agenda items disliked by many conservatives (Comprehensive Immigration Reform, Climate Change, Common Core, etc.) to make a difference. In fact, the legislation may even be more leftish as Jeb triangulates to bring Dems on board.
Whereas if Hillary wins by an absolute blowout margin through conservatives who see things similarly voting for Hillary or sitting it out and R's maintain a downticket superiority, wouldn't the likelihood of meaningful opposition be higher, not only for natural partisan reasons, but also because the message was delivered that there is a willingness to vote against interests in the status quo classic sense, that is, which throws every R into thinking more carefully about running leftward.
It's making more sense to me every day, but I'm interested in learning what is wrong with this theory, above and beyond "Supreme Court" and the other old and flat arguments.
Posted by: Ynot you say at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (TFWFz)
Posted by: Colin at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (tlI5H)
After that, how could we trust them?
- Republicans
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (WjXce)
Posted by: Yo! at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (W6iIX)
The money men want a jeb vs. hillary. They have them both in their pocket, they don't care who wins.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 03, 2015 04:22 PM (1RNgT)
I must admit that I kinda want that about as much as I want a robotic velociraptor bellhop.
That much.
Obligatory: http://onion.com/1P1hwfn
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:25 PM (mf5HN)
The biggest news in the poll is the increase in Trumps favorability rating, which is now at 52% favorable to 35% unfavorable. Trumps 52% favorability ties Bush and Cruz. Only Marco Rubio beats Trump with 54%.
Trumps unfavorable rating is only 6% higher than that of Jeb Bush.
BB
Well, so much for that, "Trump's winning but he's unpopular" argument Team Republican was fluffing last week.
What else ya guys got?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 03, 2015 04:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at August 03, 2015 04:26 PM (lU0bX)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at August 03, 2015 04:26 PM (COpZ4)
With no acceptable Republican alternative, at least there would be the enjoyable spectacle of Canquelles inheriting all of the horrible downstream consequences of the Obama presidency. And floundering.
Violent global chaos *and* a neutered, incapable military *and* economic stagnation *and* failing banking systems *and* crippling energy costs, hitting all at once. The very worst of the Jimmy Carter 1970s, on steroids.
But, but, but... I can hear the indignant spluttering now... but WHAT ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?!?!?!?!?
After Chief Justice John ("Obamacare is constitutional 'cause it's a tax") Roberts, SCOTUS staffing arguments from the establishment Republicans should no longer be accorded even the tiniest shred of attention.
And that is what sound reasoning for LIB, in practical terms that anyone can understand, looks like. Should be a sticky.
Posted by: Doomed at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Jeb, lookin' on the bright side at August 03, 2015 04:16 PM (bGLSw)
Like a wicked stepmom. Trying to oust the original kids for her own brood.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (0NdlF)
Know how the Bush family has always said that Jeb! was the one they thought was Presidential material?
I do not get that.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:24 PM (OeJe4)
20 years ago, I agreed, then he was governor and totally a waste of time.
Oh, and a fat wife is not a killer, just saying Hillary's wife Humma is thin and hot.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: couch fucker at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: gonzotx at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (dcW4d)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at August 03, 2015 04:27 PM (COpZ4)
"Nothing personal".
Posted by: Your GOP Democrat 'Parents' at August 03, 2015 04:28 PM (1+7D3)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:28 PM (ucDmr)
Had ENOUGH of the likes of you.
Go be the 'adult in the room' somewhere else.
Also, fuck yaself
Posted by: TripleTwenty at August 03, 2015 04:28 PM (MV2jA)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 03, 2015 04:28 PM (XUKZU)
Hopefully it will destroy the GOP as a national party.
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (cbfNE)
After LBJ bailed out in 1968, it took 20 years before another Texas Democrat was plausibly able to stand on a national ticket, and that as the second fiddle: Lloyd Bentsen.
After George W. Bush, it'll be 20 years before another Texas Republican is going to be able to stand on a national ticket, and like Bentsen, probably not at the top of the ticket, either.
Failed presidencies have consequences. Lasting ones.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (Ii765)
------------------------------
And people wonder why I'd rather listen to her podcast than ace's.
(No offense intended, ace)
Posted by: Chi at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (JGsfD)
just saying Hillary's wife Humma is thin and hot.
***
I've got $20 says she's skanky with hairy armpits in person.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (OeJe4)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:29 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (hUdMz)
I crossed Perry off with the In-State tuition.
Hoorah Texas. Illegals cost them $12.1 B. billion a year. $1,200 for each real citizen.
Run their asses off. Don't make it easier.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (48QDY)
After that, how could we trust them?
- Republicans
Then why did you tell everyone that was the "designated smoking area"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (bZQB+)
Posted by: CNN at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (ktt8p)
I don't think the GOPe actually cares about winning anything. If they did, they'd never have nominated McCain, and possibly not Romney. And they wouldn't have pissed away the 2014 election victories down the base's back. I'm more and more convinced they want to be second place, with enough power that they get to be courted by Big Money, but so little responsibility that they can just phone in the votes when ordered to.
I don't think Jeb or Rubio can beat Clinton, and surely not Warren. But if enough of the base stays home, the GOP could get crushed in all the down-ballot races... Historic Dem pickups. In his grave, Peter Jennings will be smiling, and not talking about temper tantrums.
Posted by: Agent J at August 03, 2015 04:30 PM (ueOgE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 03, 2015 04:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:31 PM (OSs/l)
I'm going to go ahead and say "No" here.
Posted by: Dr. Evil, in that Dr. Evil voice at August 03, 2015 04:31 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Jeb 2016 "A Big Ass Blanket" at August 03, 2015 04:31 PM (1+7D3)
Posted by: Hillary! at August 03, 2015 04:32 PM (2Ojst)
I saw a poll of Hispanic voters and their feelings towards the GOP candidates, and Jeb Bush actually had the highest negatives.
The idea that because Jeb is married to a Latino is going to deliver that vote is an incredibly stupid analysis of voter behavior. To say nothing of how the base is going to react to a candidate embracing open border policies.
So let's say Jeb gets the same amount of Latino support his brother did, something like 40% versus the 33% or so Romney got? You're talking about .08% increase of the vote, mainly in states that are in play like California and Texas. You really think that's going to offset the voters disgusted with the Bush family?
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:32 PM (cLP/C)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:32 PM (hUdMz)
Fuckin' Jap numbers games. I only do the Word Jumble.
Posted by: joey biden at August 03, 2015 04:33 PM (kivUY)
BINGO!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:33 PM (OSs/l)
But nooooooo, you had to stuff it to those Iowa hicks.
And now....
Posted by: AmishDude at August 03, 2015 04:33 PM (b65cm)
NO BUSH!
------------------------------
So, you saying that she favors hardwood.
Interesting.
Posted by: Chi at August 03, 2015 04:33 PM (JGsfD)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo
They've had practice doing it since 1973. People are actually waging pitched battles on FB about whether Bernie the bolshie is a socialist......After he himself said that he was one.
Biden is effective in that he has no compunction whatsoever about lying his ass off. he is the epitome of what PJ O'Rourke was describing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 03, 2015 04:34 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:34 PM (Ii765)
Posted by: simplemind at August 03, 2015 04:34 PM (5vV+V)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:35 PM (hUdMz)
=====
also The pro government intrusion surveillance party
no thank you
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2015 04:35 PM (F+xWX)
Stick a fork in the GOP.
Posted by: cranky-d at August 03, 2015 04:35 PM (YQU9o)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric
----------------
I..., I can't.
Trump has stolen all of the oxygen.
Posted by: Jeb at August 03, 2015 04:36 PM (9mTYi)
Absolutely right. They figured out long ago that conservatism would dissipate and vanish as the nation's fundamental moral glue was eroded by the Left. So they decided being the permanent loyal opposition to the leftists victors beats being out of power entirely.
The GOP is now its own base. Has been for some time -- they just need to keep fooling us into the formality of voting every so often. Glad to see more people have finally said "enough." I quit back when they shiv'd Palin between the shoulders.
Posted by: Doomed at August 03, 2015 04:36 PM (bGLSw)
Romney got 27% of Latino. I don't think Reagan even got 40% or Bush 1 after 86 amnesty.
Do they really think that those patio is are going to vote for them when 20% aren't even eligible to vote- yet vote regardless?
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:36 PM (48QDY)
http://bit.ly/1IHYdXD
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:37 PM (mf5HN)
The man doesn't sound like he can tie his won shoes.
That might play well in Florida. Nationally not so much.
I mean, how the fuck can anyone think a Bush candidacy would work out well?
Answer. The same people that gave us Romney and McCain. You know becuase that worked out well.
And it's different this time.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 03, 2015 04:37 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:37 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2015 04:37 PM (F+xWX)
I would probably rather go up against Biden, but truthfully, if he can deliver the same voter base as Obama, the cake is already baked.
Still, I'd rather not go up against "First Woman President!" bullshit. But her scandals and corruption have gotten to the point where they can't be swept under the rug.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (cLP/C)
If Biden was a serious draft pick the Dems would probably find a way that some electronic device is placed in his ear (and answers relayed to him so that no questions would unhinge him during a debate,. Otherwise it wouldn't be too hard to handle him with few appearances in the way Clinton is handled-although she still appears completely out of touch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (hUdMz)
Jeb Bush says he's lost 40 pounds in the past six months as he runs for the GOP presidential nomination. Bush, 62, said in a Sunday interview with CBS affiliate KCCI in Iowa Falls that he shed the weight through exercise and a paleo-style diet of meats and vegetables.
Gov Christie could not be reached for comment, because he was hiding behind his lunch.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (kdS6q)
What this country needs is an old wet , moldy blanket with no ideas. And dog hair.
Posted by: Jeb 2016 at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (1+7D3)
Sweet spot: Republican In Congress, with a Dem Administration. Maximum feed in trough, with least accountability.
Posted by: Jeb at August 03, 2015 04:38 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: calamity jeb at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (SdfnP)
That's weird, I could have sworn there was a primary in the last election. You know, the kind where people in some states voted and decided to pick Romney over moonbase Newt and dumbshit Perry and that bucktoothed asshole Santorum.
Not sure how you pin this on a secret cabal of GOPe polesmokers, but whatever fans the flames of PanicOutrage I guess.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (1RNgT)
Because at some point he was oxygen deprived and suffered brain damage.
Does he believe the Bush's are some kind of royal family?
That the country is so shallow we need a third Bush in office?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
We would need a moronette model, in order for us sign off, officially.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Ready For Jeb!!11!! at August 03, 2015 04:39 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (FEAjO)
Interesting phenomenon here.
During Biden's previous runs for the presidency, the press were not at all reticent about airing his dirty laundry.
Biden's shameless appropriation not only of Neil Kinnock's speeches but of Kinnock's life details, for example. The press didn't cover for Biden on that. They crucified him.
But the instant Biden became the handpicked #2 man on the Barack Obama ticket, all negative press instantly stopped cold. Shielded by proxy using Black Democratium, world's most impenetrable political substance.
Once Obama is gone, will his protective aura go with him? Will Biden again face the normal level of press scrutiny under which he wilted before?
Posted by: torquewrench at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (COpZ4)
One would hope, but we'll have to see.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (U43vo)
No one with the last name Bush can win...
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:35 PM (hUdMz)
Soo true, so who are the idiot that have donated $100 mill to his PAC?
Brain dead?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:40 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (Dwehj)
That's it.
Whew. It's been a long week.
Wait.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: eureka! at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (g1MTt)
add in "Oh and we went through your room and found this bong, so you're grounded forever"
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2015 04:37 PM (F+xWX)
I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, DAD!
Oh, hey, ace is right. If you add, "actually, DAD", to the start of any Vox headline, it reads a lot more accurately.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (mf5HN)
Once Obama is gone, will his protective aura go
with him? Will Biden again face the normal level of press scrutiny under
which he wilted before?
Posted by: torquewrench
*voiceover guy voice*
Stay tuned for the next episode of:
As America Burns!!
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our Republic at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:35 PM (hUdMz)
Soo true, so who are the idiot that have donated $100 mill to his PAC?
Brain dead?
Democrats?
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Romney 2016 ! at August 03, 2015 04:41 PM (1+7D3)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:42 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Romney 2016 ! at August 03, 2015 04:41
Hey Mitt it was You who sat out the election...
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:43 PM (hUdMz)
That's when The GOP Hereditary Establishment Royals--the GOPHERs--get the long knives out in earnest.
They want Jeb, and no pesky details like what the people actually want will stand in their way.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2015 04:43 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 04:43 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:43 PM (0FSuD)
Folks reminding the rest of the GOPHERs who owns them.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2015 04:44 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:44 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at August 03, 2015 04:44 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (SdfnP)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (Ii765)
#TheArtOfTheShitheel
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (agcrO)
I mean come on you have Walker, Cruz, Paul as available options and you're going to vote for.....Donald Trump?
I don't see it.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Esrevinurm at August 03, 2015 04:46 PM (V32Rf)
Not sure how you pin this on a secret cabal of GOPe polesmokers, but whatever fans the flames of PanicOutrage I guess.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head
I coulda sworn that a bunch of Very Smart People allowed Iowa and NH to lead off. And to let George snuffleupagus run 'debates'. And candy 'chowhound crowley.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 03, 2015 04:46 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 04:45 PM (Ii765)
_____________
It's kind of hard to protest in the streets 40 hours a week on top of working 50 hours a week.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 04:47 PM (0LHZx)
Soo true, so who are the idiot that have donated $100 mill to his PAC?
Brain dead?
Democrats?
Posted by: donna
A handful of well-off individuals who aren't the bulk of the electorate.
Eleventy-billion dollars is not going to kill the stench of the name of Bush.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 03, 2015 04:47 PM (VY8H5)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pjjabmn
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (zyIlW)
I think the Times are just throwing random things at the wall trying to try to dissuade people from voting for Trump.
Posted by: Hello Kitty at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (E5UB0)
If this isn't all a big joke, or a deliberate distraction by the GOP, this is how the socialists (per Debbie Wasserman Schultz) take another 4 years from us.
People who will not win a national election in 2016: Anyone with the last name Bush, Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Allen West, Richard Nixon. Almost all are decent people, some would probably do a decent job, but none will be the president in '17, promise. Fairly or unfairly, they're radioactive (if anything) to the LIVs we need. We need LIVs, sorry, it's true, democracies are only as good as their voters. I'll hold my breath for Fred Thompson being elected on write-ins before any of that field.
Posted by: 0302 at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (N6eLE)
Bush had no reason to belittle conservatives, because they will not show up and he will lose.
Now Bush can use the fixation with Trump to get the rust off, but he still does no0t have the street cred and scar tissue that Walker does, nor the soaring rhetoric of Rubio. He lacks the fortitude of Cruz nor achievements of Perry.
No still way to early....
Posted by: standfast24 at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (wx/BY)
Clever boys, doing the ol' reverse peesighkollagy on us or something... it's almost as if these people have run political campaigns before.
Almost, but not winning ones, actually.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (TOk1P)
The point is is that Trump has kept the nomination process alive for anyone not named Trump or Bush. Far from a Godsend, this is a disaster for Jeb moreso than anyone from whom Trump is allegedly stealing air from.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 04:49 PM (664w+)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:49 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 03, 2015 04:49 PM (NeFrd)
"And yes, I'm going to just call 'em GOPHERs from now on."
You, you better get rid of those gophers or I will get a new greenskeeeper.Is thatclear?
Posted by: Judge Shmales at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (OD2ni)
You would think that a candidate might want to lure Trump voters away at some point.
That's kind of hard to do when you've called them poor, stupid and stubborn.
Are these the same people clinging to the guns and religion? Voting for Trump?
Where do they get political consultants? Do they take the bottom 10% of the class, have them sniff glue for a year and put them on the campaign trail?
Fuck.
Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (P/xrJ)
Or his tight relationship w/Dems like Hillary, Bloomberg (regardless of what party he claimed as Mayor), ValJar, etc.
We saw this with Jeb's dad and brother - they respect people like Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy because they are old-fashioned and believe that being gentlemanly will be returned. Nope, just back-stabbies.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bosk at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: logprof at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (HTAoH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Hello Kitty at August 03, 2015 04:48 PM (E5UB0)
What??? Are you daring to suggest Team Jeb! might not actually mean the stuff they are saying?
Why, that's crazy talk, that is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 04:51 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:51 PM (FEAjO)
Posted by: Bosk at August 03, 2015 04:51 PM (n2K+4)
And that, my friend, is why we're boned.
You, you better get rid of those gophers or I will get a new greenskeeeper.Is thatclear?
Posted by: Judge Shmales
I can neither confirm nor deny that Caddyshack may be a major inspiration in this new notational style.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2015 04:51 PM (2l5vw)
Trump is the only one not part of the system. He's leading 2 to 1 and everybody already knows him. He's been famous for over 35 years. We've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly about him. He can't be redefined by the Oligarchy.
All others are bought and owned. Even your precious Cruz and Walker.
All those who say he won't get the nomination are fooling themselves.
Go Trump!
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at August 03, 2015 04:52 PM (O6ViL)
And then there's Jeb.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:28 PM (ucDmr)
*funky church organ*
Candidate Romney had the drive of a zombie rottin' in his coffin,
John McCain was clinically insane or senile but I forget which,
Bobby Dole had a flaccid old pole till Viagra came along, Yeah-hey-hey
George HW Bush when shove came to push, cratered Reagan's revolution.
And then there's Jeb!
And then there's Jeb!
And then there's Jeb!
And then there's Jeb!
Lyin', cheatin', middle class destroyin' heathen
Right on, Jeb!
Jeb!
Posted by: Jeb! - A Comedy by Norman Lear at August 03, 2015 04:52 PM (0cMkb)
Nope, the strategy seems to be demonize any dissenting voice, like Trump and Cruz, and then pull the "Who are you going to vote for, me (the RINO) or the Dem?"
They're forgetting that we can also choose not to vote, or vote out of spite for the Dem.
Total a$$holes.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 04:52 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (cbfNE)
Perry came into the 2012 primary with a ridiculous sum of cash and he ended up losing to people like Michelle Bachmann despite outspending her something like 100-1 in Iowa.
Jeb is going to crash and burn even with all of his money and name. As was said earlier, no amount of money is going to change his last name. Conservatives hate the Bush family and most LIV still have a bad taste in their mouth of his pResidency. The whole dynasty thing is going to work against him.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (cLP/C)
Posted by: Bosk at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (TOk1P)
Yeah, it's a nice fantasy - never gonna happen.
Posted by: biancaneve at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (kBiy2)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:53 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: donna at August 03, 2015 04:54 PM (hUdMz)
Posted by: Eromero at August 03, 2015 04:54 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 03, 2015 04:54 PM (NeFrd)
Bill traveled numerous times to Pedo Island with Epstein aboard his plane (supposedly designated "The Lolita Express"). It was there that Epstein liked to frolic with underage girls.
http://dailym.ai/1P1m7OM
Posted by: MTF at August 03, 2015 04:54 PM (TxJGV)
2 banhammers in about 30 seconds. Must be a new record.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (FEAjO)
We're going to get calamity; it's just a matter of when.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (dPpmC)
------------------
As a long-suffering Perry fan, I've thrown in the towel. His poor judgement in the choice of advisers finally did me in. Sad..., I liked the guy. If he had relied on his native instincts, rather than tried to play political games, it would have turned out better, I think.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:50 PM (OSs/l)
I agree that she's had some very well done indeed surgery but also that being happy helps.
And then there's Christie Brinkley. These were taken a few weeks ago.
http://bit.ly/1P1oxx1
She's 61 now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (mf5HN)
may not matter now because of donk's Invasion USA strategy but getting another point or two of cracker ass crackers would help more than pretending to be lifelong soccer fans.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (664w+)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 04:56 PM (664w+)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 03, 2015 04:56 PM (ppaKI)
Its simply not a battle worth fighting. The best conservatives can hope for are delays and that just means to kick the can down another generation, because the children of our illegal immigrants will automatically be American citizens.
If people were sensible and smart, they would let Republicans get ahead of an inevitable issue, so that they can court new voters. Instead we get destructive tantrums from the right wing of the party.
Jeb Bush is the most honest candidate on this issue. You might wanna get serious and give him a look!
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 04:57 PM (vTXjm)
2 banhammers in about 30 seconds. Must be a new record.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (FEAjO)
Ok, I guess I missed whatever it was. Or more accurately, didn't miss anything at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (OSs/l)
======
hate to break the bad news, but they lost before trump even showed up. and it ain't all Jeb either.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (F+xWX)
Total a$$holes.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 04:52 PM (NOIQH)
They're forgetting that it's us crazy, motivated, single issue voters who stand in the rain to vote in the primaries.
Because we're so poor, stupid and stubborn.
I've never dreamed of voting for Trump, but they've almost driven me to it.
Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (P/xrJ)
It might be better to think before reacting sometime. Just a thought.
IL-18 was Bob Michel's district for nearly 40 years. Anyone who thought an unknown could wave a Tea Party banner and beat Ray LaHood's son (Ray was Michel's Chief of Staff and held the seat more than a decade himself) was just being willfully stupid.
Posted by: Adjoran at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (QIQ6j)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 03, 2015 04:58 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 04:59 PM (cbfNE)
towel. His poor judgement in the choice of advisers finally did me in.
Sad..., I liked the guy. If he had relied on his native instincts,
rather than tried to play political games, it would have turned out
better, I think.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (9mTYi)
Perry strikes me as a guy who was told early on that he wasn't going to be allowed to win, so he's just playing the game. Not being terribly bright though, he's not very good at playing the game.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 05:00 PM (TOk1P)
------------------------
Let me interpret: "Lie back and enjoy it.."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2015 05:00 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 05:00 PM (NOIQH)
________
For every 100 illegals that become citizens, 75 will vote Democrat. If Bush is too stupid to understand this, that right there disqualifies him
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (ODxAs)
That is still a pretty woman.
I just wish Marie Osmond would lighten up. She seems to have crossed the line.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (48QDY)
Yes, why bother fighting for what one believes in, eh? It's inevitable, so just lay back and think of England...
Bollocks.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: rrpjr at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (s/yC1)
El Gato Caca
Posted by: rickb223 at August 03, 2015 05:02 PM (SdfnP)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at August 03, 2015 05:02 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 05:02 PM (OSs/l)
*****
¡El Nacho Libre!
Posted by: Muldoon at August 03, 2015 05:03 PM (NeFrd)
Still looking for those pics of Christie Blinky.
Posted by: Golfman at August 03, 2015 05:04 PM (48QDY)
towel. His poor judgement in the choice of advisers finally did me in.
Sad..., I liked the guy. If he had relied on his native instincts,
rather than tried to play political games, it would have turned out
better, I think.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (9mTYi)
Perry strikes me as a guy who was told early on that he wasn't going to be allowed to win, so he's just playing the game. Not being terribly bright though, he's not very good at playing the game.
Posted by: BurtTC
I was a Perry fan when he first jumped in 2012, but I also threw in the towel a while ago.
I do think he has good instincts and is a genuine conservative, I would of course vote for him if he was the nominee, but he's definitely been brainwashed when it comes to thinking he has to tow the line on open border policies if he wants to be taken seriously.
No question his misplaced bet cost him the nomination in 2012, hope it was worth it to appease that crowd that laugh at you as soon as you leave the room.
Posted by: McAdams at August 03, 2015 05:04 PM (cLP/C)
--
If rape is inevitable, do your best to bobbit the rapist so they never rape anyone else again.
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Rachel Jentel at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (48QDY)
Nope, always wants more, more, more, but no doubt plagued by the consequences of what she's done to get it. Exhibit A: Philanderin' Bill, to whom everything Hillary wants comes so damn easily while she works so hard and comes up short.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (NOIQH)
We'll make it up in volume!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: gDavid at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (BaZSS)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 05:06 PM (664w+)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2015 05:06 PM (2Ojst)
----
Clogginstein was a very obvious attempt at humor, and in days past, it actually was funny. Not so much anymore, but it's still a sock.
Be Gone Ya, is the real deal. Sad to say. I've been wondering if this person is actually someone who hangs out with her cafe friends, talks to her priest a lot, and lets her cats urinate all over her apartment. IYKWIM.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2015 05:06 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Rachel Jentel at August 03, 2015 05:05 PM (48QDY)
__________
WTF?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 05:06 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 05:01 PM (0LHZx)
_______
How do you expect them to vote? Would you consider voting for a party that wants to get your parents out of the country or that cant help but announce its resentment of the fact that you are here at all?
Its a dead issue, folks.
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 05:07 PM (vTXjm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2015 05:07 PM (VPLuQ)
__________
WTF?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 03, 2015 05:06 PM (0LHZx)
Dood.
Posted by: Rachel Jentel at August 03, 2015 05:08 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 05:09 PM (664w+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 03, 2015 05:09 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 04:57 PM (vTXjm)
Go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 03, 2015 05:09 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 03, 2015 05:09 PM (664w+)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 03, 2015 05:10 PM (Ii765)
Trump has support from people across the board because of one stand on one issue, which he has since waffled on, but those people haven't heard the waffle yet. But a large majority, over 60% want the borders secured and no amnesty.
Yet, the gop candidates are going to tow the chamber of commerce line. I don't know whether it is stupidity or follow the money. But either way they aren't getting any votes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 05:10 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 03, 2015 05:12 PM (ODxAs)
http://bit.ly/1P1oxx1
She's 61 now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at August 03, 2015 04:55 PM (mf5HN)
Back in a few.
Posted by: Blano at August 03, 2015 05:13 PM (w1ewr)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 03, 2015 05:15 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: El Jebbo at August 03, 2015 05:17 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 05:17 PM (vTXjm)
Posted by: The Burning Time at August 03, 2015 05:19 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 05:07 PM (vTXjm)
Indicative of your level of political analysis (stunted by hatred of conservatives). 1. No republican has said anything like this sort of scare-mongering, regurgitated Leftist tripe. 2. The RINO pro-amnesty/democrat-lite package is a proven loser. How many presidential elections do you need to lose before this sinks in? 3. there is a huge swath of frustrated voters who are not bigots, support legal immigration but who deeply resent our lawless and insane immigration policies -- or non-policies. Some of these are even legal immigrants.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 03, 2015 05:23 PM (s/yC1)
If anything, Begonia is overestimating the appeal of the pro-amnesty side.
The GOPe donors all love them that sweet cheap labor. The electorate, both Dem and Rep, not so much.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at August 03, 2015 05:32 PM (laMCB)
....
If by "blanket" you mean a wet blanket, sure. Dude just got cucked by Hillary! in front of the Urban League, so I'm sure he's a shoo-in come next November.
Posted by: Schaeffer at August 03, 2015 05:33 PM (tTglu)
Oops.
So forgive me if I fail to see the inevitable popping up now, because the guy generally regarded as a buffoon is kicking every other candidate's ass, but especially Jeb's ass.
How many people who support Trump now will switch to Jeb! if Trump implodes?
I say damn few, if any.
Posted by: Xennady at August 03, 2015 05:33 PM (9N5tF)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 03, 2015 05:50 PM (493sH)
an unknown could wave a Tea Party banner and beat Ray LaHood's son (Ray
was Michel's Chief of Staff and held the seat more than a decade
himself) was just being willfully stupid."
There is a lot of that going on with some of the commenters on this site.
Encouraged by Drew, who's primary job here seems to be to tell conservatives that they should allow Democrats to win elections because, something something, True Con!, something.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 03, 2015 05:54 PM (ljZD2)
Posted by: Begonia at August 03, 2015 05:17 PM (vTXjm)
What "arguments"? Only stale RINO talking points about awful unelectable extremist conservatives and eminently reasonable and electable RINOs like Jeb. A dead narrative -- history has debunked it and no one is buying it.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 03, 2015 05:55 PM (s/yC1)
Actually a willfully stupid comment. Politics is too dynamic for such statements. Look what happened to Eric Cantor.
Posted by: rrpjr at August 03, 2015 05:58 PM (s/yC1)
In the end, Walker probably benefits. Polls say Jeb is not doing well, even in Florida. Walker could be a fall back for the establishment.
Posted by: Old Hob at August 03, 2015 06:00 PM (Z+7WE)
Posted by: DRayRaven at August 03, 2015 06:02 PM (q4f8l)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 03, 2015 06:20 PM (4KoRb)
Posted by: AMartel at August 03, 2015 06:23 PM (WWgnZ)
Trump's popularity is predicated in large part on being Anti-Illegal Immigration. Yes, this is a flip-flop from some years ago. But it is a wholly believable change in position because Trump has spoken in harsh language against Illegal Immigration and then doubled down on those harsh statements.
- That gets big traction and big support. As. It. Should.
In years past I couldn't stand him. And while Trump is certainly right of center: there is no good reason to believe that he is a conservative.
BUT IF NEITHER TED CRUZ NOR BOBBY JINDAL IS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE:
LET THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT EAT TRUMP.
- I say we nominate Donald Trump IN PROTEST before we nominate some shifty moderate squish.
If Trump won in the general election, at least we'd know he'd make it a serious priority to end illegal immigration.
Also, the GOP would know that the conservative base is fucking serious when it comes to having a say in who the nominee is.
And if Trump lost in the general election, the GOP would still know the conservative base is fucking serious when it comes to having a say in who the nominee is.
Ace, if the GOP Establishment isn't going to give us a serious shot at nominating a genuine and consistent conservative: TO HELL WITH THEM
- Make it Trump 2016.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 03, 2015 06:23 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Schaeffer at August 03, 2015 06:29 PM (tTglu)
Posted by: That Guy at August 03, 2015 06:35 PM (UKhBB)
Which is why Trump is the only answer. ALL the rest are bought by the Chamber of Commerce. Trump's the ONLY truly independent candidate. Love him or hate him, nominating him WILL break the stranglehold that the Chamber has on "our" party.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 03, 2015 07:24 PM (xetep)
Posted by: Duhgee at August 03, 2015 09:26 PM (7AivX)
Posted by: burt at August 04, 2015 08:18 AM (ls8AU)
Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0443 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0147 seconds, 327 records returned.
Page size 168 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.
Real Clear Politics
Gallup
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)