"Cuckservative" Is A Racist Slur, Part 2

We've been over this. It's weird how people get super-attached to a slur they just heard for the first time last week. Yesterday, in response to the whitewashing of the word "cuckservative" by the website abusing the good name of Andrew Breitbart, I tweeted about the racist origins and usage of the term "cuck."

In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc. People saw white supremacists who were enthused by Donald Trump's Mexican rape statement yelling "cuckservative" at the GOP leadership and others who condemned Trump.

Unfortunately, many of these folks who saw the slur being slung did not realize the term's racist origin or meaning. They just saw one group of people yelling a new word they'd never seen before at another group of people they already hate. So they started using the term, most of them without knowing where it came from. Now that they know, however, they want to keep using it.

The responses to my tweets came in two general categories: (1) well-meaning people who said that they didn't realize and yeah that's bad; and (2) people who did this:

And this:

The general response to my tweets about "cuckservative" have not changed my mind about its use. pic.twitter.com/9gXYKZzhd9
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) July 28, 2015

My experience was by no means unique. Today, Erick Erickson discusses the racist origins and usage of the foul term and provides some further examples of the sort of people who use it.

The other day I was attacked as a “cuckservative” and the proof that I was one is that I fill-in for Rush Limbaugh. The proof that Rush is a “cuckservative” is that, according to the person with the confederate flag for his twitter picture, Rush had hired outside “his tribe” for his call screener. Yes, Bo Snerdley is black. Seriously, that was the argument.
The Breitbart piece defending the word suggested it came from the bowels of the internet, but if you look at its first usages beyond 4chan, what do you get?

Erickson takes a dive into the bowels of the internet. It's not pretty, but you should read it.

The tumult over the term has made its way into the legacy media, because of course it has. How could the media resist a story about people on the right consciously giving an assist to white supremacists?

Updated: Eh, I'm not sure why it's not embedding those tweets. Replaced them with pics.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 01:02 PM

Comments

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1 This feels like half a post. Did you accidentally post too early, Gabe?

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 29, 2015 01:02 PM (ewYO6)

2 What other term did people think the "cuck" came from?

Posted by: Jenny Is Thoroughly Confused at July 29, 2015 01:04 PM (dbrg8)

3 I try to keep up with our daily outrages, but it's just getting to be too much work.

Posted by: smaulz at July 29, 2015 01:05 PM (g+jFF)

4 Climb Mount Tacoma

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 01:05 PM (7Eo8i)

5 There's no better feeling of victory than picking up a few strawman examples off the twitterz, ignoring the substantive alt right's arguments, and declaring a moral victory. Almost like shooting a lion.

Posted by: Chester Lyman at July 29, 2015 01:06 PM (xmOk0)

6 Honestly, who gives a shit about this parochial social media war and people flexing their Twitter muscles.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2015 01:07 PM (GGCsk)

7 Ugly word used by ugly people for ugly purposes.

Posted by: duke at July 29, 2015 01:07 PM (mDxGf)

8 Oh for fuck's sake. Everybody just quit telling me what to think. Leave me the fuck alone and I'll leave you alone. It's another stupid made up outrage.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 29, 2015 01:07 PM (MDvKH)

9 I have no idea what this post is about. Then again I ignore 99% of what happens on Twitter. People get so worked up over this shit that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at July 29, 2015 01:08 PM (0LHZx)

10 i'm not buying the racist thing.....however, i don't use the phrase....i'm tired of the race stuff ......as a person of a pale persuasion but the mother of kids darker than myself....i'm already considered a racist....and accused of #whiteprivelege....let it burn already....i want to make smores.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:08 PM (0O7c5)

11 Word police!

Posted by: dogfish at July 29, 2015 01:08 PM (jWtyG)

12 1 This feels like half a post. Did you accidentally post too early, Gabe?
Posted by: Jeff B. at July 29, 2015 01:02 PM (ewYO6)

He swears it's never happened to him before!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:08 PM (gW5Vg)

13 So are we frozen or isolated yet? I forget which step we're at. Maybe Matt Lewis knows...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2015 01:09 PM (tOqU8)

14 I thought it was "cockservative" and I was all like "Eww, who wants to be serving cocks, anyway?"

I should pay more attention when I read things.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 01:09 PM (jjaLl)

15 5 There's no better feeling of victory than picking up a few strawman examples off the twitterz, ignoring the substantive alt right's arguments, and declaring a moral victory. Almost like shooting a lion.

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Ok, so what is the purpose of replacing "con" with "cuck"?

Posted by: Jenny Is Thoroughly Confused at July 29, 2015 01:09 PM (dbrg8)

16
Why is this about You??

Onc again youve injected yourself into a story that has nothing at all to do with you.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 01:09 PM (L0kit)

17 it's an old english term....made by someone who probably never even saw a black person.....so...there's that

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:09 PM (0O7c5)

18

I have no idea why anyone would use that term to begin with.

This will die out soon enough. Maybe not among the super racists that have always used it, or have always used other terms, but certainly not "normal" people once they know the root.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 29, 2015 01:10 PM (qCMvj)

19 According to webster, cuckold is "a man whose wife has sex with someone else : a man's whose wife commits adultery". Where does the racist angle come in?

Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2015 01:10 PM (VKRYP)

20 "Twitter is a sewer."
-R. Limbaugh

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 29, 2015 01:10 PM (vgIRn)

21 Fauxrage. Plain and simple.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2015 01:11 PM (7x4lH)

22 #CuckLivesMatter

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 29, 2015 01:11 PM (W5DcG)

23 Snerdly's "black enough criticize [SCOAMF]" segments were hilarious.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:11 PM (/kI1Q)

24
He swears it's never happened to him before!
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:08 PM (gW5Vg)

Saves on wear and tear.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 29, 2015 01:12 PM (vgIRn)

25 Twitter delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 01:12 PM (7Eo8i)

26
Hmmmm. I read Ace's linked piece (which thanks for linking as I had missed it) so I get that cuckservative is indisputably a white supremacist coinage.

That's not a word with a lot of history so there is no sorrow in losing the use of it.

Otoh, we can't let the word cuckold itself be deemed off-limits. I'm kind of disappointed if Ace has changed his twitter handle from "Paolo the Cuckmaker" because of of social racist pressure tactics.

Cuckold is a fine Anglo-Saxonism which must be preserved.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:12 PM (JtwS4)

27 Yes, it's certainly terrible that a group gets to coopt a word or image against its original meaning and then that group then owns it.

You know, like back in the 50s, "have a gay old time" meant something else.

Incidentally, "cuckold" is the husband of a wife who is having an affair. It predates the white supremacists by about 700 years. If the white supremacists are trying to co opt the word, I really don't see why I should let them.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 29, 2015 01:12 PM (eytER)

28 Gabe, Gabe, you are missing the most important story of the day...the guy what killed Cecil the lion was a Romney donor!!!! Evil republicans.

The outrage of which will be used to shove the PP horror stories to the back burner, because cute lion pics are better optics than dismembered babies.

Over/under on when Obama will release a statement about Cecil? Because of course he will. "If I had a father he would look just like Cecil..."

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:13 PM (hvf9s)

29 I thought it was initially just used as a term for amnesty/open boarder supporting Republicans. Either way, who cares? Getting triggered by a word is pretty goofy

Posted by: Huh at July 29, 2015 01:13 PM (U5uh3)

30 @man whose wife has sex with someone else : a man's whose wife commits adultery". Where does the racist angle come in?
------------------------

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that it has to do with the idea that tolerating other races means that your wife is going to cheat on you with them. Or be raped by them. So a white man who tolerates other races is going to be cuckolded by those he tolerates.

Posted by: junior at July 29, 2015 01:13 PM (3m3mw)

31 In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc.

Citation, please.

No, I don't doubt the facts above. I believe it's 100% true.

I want to know when, in the 11-day saga of this nomenclature, whether this particular slur is more or less than 11 days old.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (b65cm)

32 Oh, look, 4chan chalks up another win.

Idiots.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (VY8H5)

33 19 According to webster, cuckold is "a man whose wife has sex with someone else : a man's whose wife commits adultery". Where does the racist angle come in?
Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2015 01:10 PM (VKRYP)

A cuckold is a man who's basically been made a bitch by his wife running around on him. She's demasculated him.

A "cuckservative" is someone who the same thing has happened to, except they've allowed themselves to be trampled by other races/ethnicities.

If you go read Nick Searcy's TL, he's getting savaged by some truly horrific people because he's adopted a black kid. And that's somehow subverting himself to black people.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (gW5Vg)

34 19 According to webster, cuckold is "a man whose wife has sex with someone else : a man's whose wife commits adultery". Where does the racist angle come in?

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I'm wondering why "cuckservative" became a thing at all if it's not racial. The racism explanation makes sense, the explanation that a bunch of people decided to start randomly saying essentially "Your wives are all sluts, you faux conservatives" is a) really random and b) not really defensible either

Posted by: Jenny Is Thoroughly Confused at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (dbrg8)

35 Fucking twitter.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (jAuNn)

36 I grew up when there were real, shoot-you-dead '50's racists. I never heard the term cuckservatives until last week.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (MDvKH)

37 Nothing, and I do mean absolutely nothing, good ever comes from fucking Twitter. Fuck Twitter. I avoid it at all costs and suggest you all do the same.

Posted by: radar at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (kQfqk)

38
Why yes, calling those who criticize us "white supremacists" IS intended to shut down any questioning of our "puppet on short strings" response to the orders of the GOP.

Why do you ask?

Posted by Totes Conservative "Take My Wife Please" Scribblers

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (kdS6q)

39 Incidentally, "cuckold" is the husband of a wife who is having an
affair. It predates the white supremacists by about 700 years.

Same origin as "cuckoo", right? Something about the birds taking over the nests of others...

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (/kI1Q)

40
Guys, seriously, note that this is "Part 2". It's a continuation of a discussion Ace started Friday.

You have to read the link.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (JtwS4)

41
>>>People saw white supremacists who were enthused by Donald Trump's Mexican rape statement yelling "cuckservative" at the GOP leadership and others who condemned Trump.

Ciation/link?

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (L0kit)

42 Also, I'm pretty sure white supremacists use other words too. Probably incorrectly. They probably think "liberal" means something other than it does. Per Malor's logic, guess we have to write off all of those words as racist too.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (eytER)

43 I long for the simpler time of 'tea bagger'.

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (a7+oZ)

44 Ace, you going to let these dumb asses do this?

I used to follow all these guys. Then I found them to be raging assholes who use liberal arguments to shut down speech.

Searcy, Malor, Levy, Gutfeld, Sooper Mexican. All the haters and losers.

Guilt by association. Fuck these guys.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (94iKh)

45 Well, I guess people who are obsessed with race will make everything about race. Is this really newsworthy?

Posted by: Begonia at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (U3g6n)

46 social media gives us such important topics to discuss

Posted by: brak at July 29, 2015 01:16 PM (Tj+s6)

47 cuckold (n.)
mid-13c., kukewald, from Old French cucuault, from cocu (see cuckoo) + pejorative suffix -ault, of Germanic origin. So called from the female bird's alleged habit of changing mates, or her authentic habit of leaving eggs in another bird's nest.

In Modern French the identity is more obvious: Coucou for the bird and cocu for the betrayed husband. German Hahnrei (13c.), from Low German, is of obscure origin. The second element seems to be connected to words for "ardent," and suggests perhaps "sexually aggressive hen," with transferal to humans, but Kluge suggests rather a connection to words for "capon" and "castrated." Related: Cuckoldry.

http://tinyurl.com/ogkcexb

++++

The term is much older than whatever use white supremacists are putting it to this week.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2015 01:16 PM (IN7k+)

48 Since when did 4chan become respectable? If the term originated there, how does that make it any better?

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at July 29, 2015 01:16 PM (5fSr7)

49 I have one facebook friend who is a bit eccentric politically - he is very close to being a "white nationalist reactionary."

He just posted a "you might be a cuckservative" meme thing that is definitely racist - it explicitly talks about white people who help non-whites as being cuckservative.

So, yeah, independent confirmation.

Oh, and this guy hates the GOP and plans to vote Jim Webb. Most of these guys are not "right wing" at all but more leaning towards national socialism...no joke.

Stormfront hated Bush. The left wants to say people like Dylan Roof are "conservative" but I guarantee they believe all kinds of Big Nanny state ideas to protect white people.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 01:16 PM (UBBWX)

50 it's an old English term....made by someone who probably never even saw a black person.....so...there's that

Yep. Gabe's explicitly saying: "Racist people adopted a word, so that makes the word inherently racist."

Specifically in this graph: In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc.

Um, OK. A whole bunch of racists and bigots twist the Bible, does that make the Bible somehow less worthy?

I don't care if this particular old word gets less use. But this stupid word police freakout over words that are not inherently racist is insane.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:16 PM (jhqr1)

51 I tweeted about the racist origins and usage of the term "cuck."

In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites

Actually, Gabriel, "cuck" is a term that's been around for at least 20 years, referring specifically to the "cuckold fetish," in which beta males arrange for strangers to have sex with their wives, while they watch from the sidelines, feeling sorry for themselves and masturbating.

it's a bizarre and disturbing fetish, assuredly, but apparently there is a category of men who get a sexual thrill from being humiliated, and this is the most humiliating thing they can imagine, so they pursue it.

The "cuckolding" fetish has probably been around for decades or centuries, but it specifically became called "cuck" or "cucking" around the beginning of the internet, when fetish communities formed.

So the origin of the term "cuck" has nothing whatsoever to do with race or white supremacists.

Now, yes, in recent years, a major subgenre of the "cucking" scene is white beta males who specifically arrange for black guys (with penises bigger than the husband's - -that's a requirement for the fantasy) to pretend-rape their wives as they watch, and the wife's role is to praise the size of the stranger's penis.

This has become so popular in the fetish community that "cucking" has begun to take on a racial element.

It is this development, which happened fairly recently, which the white supremacists seized, being disgusted at the way these fetishy beta males act.

Posted by: zombie at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (jBuUi)

52 Searcy, Malor, Levy, Gutfeld, Sooper Mexican. All the haters and losers.

Guilt by association. Fuck these guys.
Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (94iKh)

And you are...?

Because I like all those guys.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (b65cm)

53 but if you look at its first usages beyond 4chan, what do you get?

You get 4chan /b/tards on Twitter laughing at butthurt commentators.

Gabe, outside of Twitter where is this great cuckservative conspiracy?

Seriously, other than Twitter, where does this great tragedy exist?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (VY8H5)

54 I still don't give a shit.

Posted by: Shit hoarder at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (bUmSq)

55 Yawn, sticks and stones. Sticks and stones.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (sgrzZ)

56 Attempting to use Twitter as a medium for intelligent discourse on complex topics is a bit like trying to play Bach sonatas on a kazoo.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (noWW6)

57 Good to see my aim hasn't dulled since Justified ended.

Posted by: Art Mullen's Marshal stiffy at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (w9WoH)

58
I'm a cockservative.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (ODxAs)

59
This whole entire thing is a load of shit being stirred by an internet troll. Malor, you are a troll.

Your explanation and logic does not even reach the level of convoluted.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (L0kit)

60 So it seems this Cecil character was actually making this Jericho fella into a cuckold, so Jericho paid this dentist guy to take old Cecil out....

As The Serengeti Turns.....

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (jjaLl)

61 "Where does the racist angle come in?
Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2015 01:10 PM (VKRYP)"

Cuckold fetishism, which frequently involves having a man of a different race fuck your wife/girlfriend. Establishment Republicans like Gabe tend to be more familiar with the term than people who don't spend their free time in internet cesspools (and I don't mean twitter) should be, probably because they're all degenerates. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the Establishment are in fact literal cuckold fetishists.

As for the OP, that first line is really, really funny. Thanks for the morning laugh at your expense Gabe. But as you can see from the general responses the average conservative isn't nearly as into thought policing as you are. I've noticed the same tone deafness in a number of other conservative writers/bloggers, almost rivaling the Trump tone deafness. It's almost as if you people are just as worried about your paychecks as the average Republican consultant. Don't wanna rock the boat too much, you see. You all just fling toothless criticism at politicians to take advantage of the average conservative's anger but God forbid anybody or anything actually get up and do something more about.

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (WvGsS)

62 The racist angle comes from porn, basically. There's an entire subgenre of cuckold porn that consists of white guys with small packages watching black guys with huge packages bang their wives. No, I don't watch it , but if you go on tube sites it's pretty hard not to be aware it exists.

Posted by: radar at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (kQfqk)

63 Frankly I don't care. The term works pretty well to describe the shit weasels in DC.

But let the RINO Brigade keep shrieking about this until the Left notices so we can all be properly chastised.

Like I said I don't care. Connotation I saw referred to Boehner and Yertle the Turtle bending over for every fucking thing.

Cuckservatives.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (oFCZn)

64 I really get the sense that, when it comes to checking word origins, Malor is niggardly with his efforts.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (eytER)

65 Given that I never heard of the word "cuckservative" until about 4 days ago, I promise that I will continue not to use it.

Twitter is good for big, breaking stories, but other than that, it's just a waste of time.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (0RdKg)

66 Example:

"The important question for white males who favor free markets and liberty today is this: How can we promote these goals while being sensitive to the needs of vibrant youths like my daughter's boyfriend Jamal? I think it's possible if we work at it. A good first step would be to decriminalize nonviolent drug offenses, or at least get rid of minimum sentencing, so Jamal can get parole."

https://www.facebook.com/beingcuckservative?ref=br_rs

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (UBBWX)

67 Gabe Malor is a RACIST

Posted by: ANIMAL-S at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (WhfU/)

68 Six Flags Over Nothing...

#Fauxtrage !!11111!!!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (Vha1U)

69 I could not care less.

I will be made to care I'm sure.

Posted by: nip at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (a6Odp)

70 The term is much older than whatever use white supremacists are putting it to this week.

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I get that. But, for one thing the term has taken a racial connotation in recent years. For another, using the original meaning of the term as an insult in this context makes no sense and is...not exactly misogynist, I guess, but definitely icky.

Posted by: Jenny Is Thoroughly Confused at July 29, 2015 01:19 PM (dbrg8)

71 John Scotus had a good roundup on his blog here:

http://wp.me/pKWRO-3yl

Posted by: Y-not at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (RWGcK)

72 People are, in general, just fucking crazy. I mean worms in the head crazy.

Posted by: Advo at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (7hUS8)

73 you are the Prince of Strawmen, Malor

a prince, indeed. A dishonest, race-baiting little sh*t who loves to dump on others ( after defining who the 'others' are )

congrats

Posted by: John Adams ( me, not my idiot son Quincy ) at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (8CdUx)

74 If you go read Nick Searcy's TL, he's getting savaged by some truly horrific people because he's adopted a black kid. And that's somehow subverting himself to black people.

If those people are so bothered by it, then start the race war.
Otherwise, if all they are gonna do is flap their gums, who really has been cuckolded?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (TW49l)

75 19 According to webster, cuckold is "a man whose wife has sex with someone else : a man's whose wife commits adultery". Where does the racist angle come in?
Posted by: Jim

See comment #51.

Posted by: zombie at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (jBuUi)

76 "Same origin as "cuckoo", right? Something about the birds taking over the nests of others...''

Apparently, it applies to Blackbirds and Crows having sex with female white swans.

This is believed to have lead to the obviously bi-racial penguin being born.

Or some such silly shit.

Or...one can go to any dictionary and look up the term Cuckold, and find no reference to race.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (VPLuQ)

77
Secret Alinsky Rule:

If your opponents don't confront racists in their ranks, highlight the racists in your ranks. Then your opponents will see you've seized the moral high ground and surrender.

Posted by: CJ at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (9KqcB)

78 Cuckle Doodle Doo!

Posted by: Racist chicken at July 29, 2015 01:20 PM (bUmSq)

79 Gabe's explicitly saying: "Racist people adopted a word, so that makes the word inherently racist."

We're going to be left with a half-dozen words, and they're all going to be programming jargon.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (/kI1Q)

80 Attempting to use Twitter as a medium for intelligent discourse on complex topics is a bit like trying to play Bach sonatas on a kazoo.

Good put.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (jAuNn)

81
This whole entire thing is a load of shit being stirred by an internet troll. Malor, you are a troll.

Your explanation and logic does not even reach the level of convoluted.

Have you read the Ace link? Is Ace a troll?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (JtwS4)

82 Also I've noticed a tendency among those who use Twitter A LOT that anything that trends on there is some big fucking deal.

It isn't.

Most people never join Twitter.

Carry on.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (oFCZn)

83 The issue isn't the dozen trolls, with a few dozen sock accounts who mounted an assault this weekend on Twitter, it's people who are supposed to be allies and friends giving it credence, without appreciating they're siding with white supremacists who attacked us.

It's like your car has a slur keyed into it, and while it's not the end of the world, it pisses you off. As you're buffing it out your neighbors come over and instead of commiserating, laugh and start calling you the slur.

That's the rub. That's the gut punch.

Posted by: coondawg68 at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (xdOnn)

84 Haven't used the 'word'. Don't grasp its meaning. Tempest where there is no tempest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (9mTYi)

85 Gabe, you're simply wrong.

(Gamergate is all about harassing women and preventing them from going into tech too, remember?)

Posted by: Jabari at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (VJbsF)

86 The important thing is that everyone stop what they are doing and change their opinions because twitter.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (nC/Fa)

87 The many things I have gone through my life knowing nothing about - such as the white supremacist side of the internet. I believe that the Emergency Response Guidebook recommends that you don a positive pressure suit and use a SCBA before heading into those swamps and that all seems like just a little too much like work to me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (hLRSq)

88 >>Apparently, it applies to Blackbirds and Crows having sex with female white swans.

You have it backwards.

Leda was a Nubian.

Posted by: Zeus at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (fOO+i)

89 Ya know

There was a caller on Rush waaaay back in 2007 or so where the guy was a Liberal opposed to Obama because, he said, his election would increase the racial hatred. Said racists would come out of the woodwork on all sides and the Klan might reform, neo-Nazis get active again. Not because Obama is black but because of Obama's own inclinations.

Posted by: Bigby's Poking Finger at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (3ZtZW)

90 >> And you are...?
>> Because I like all those guys.

I'm a guy who observes their behavior.

Cuckservative is exactly what Nero described. Getting all up in arms due to trolls shows how unreliable these guys would be in a foxhole.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (94iKh)

91 This whole entire thing is a load of shit being stirred by an internet troll. Malor, you are a troll.

Your explanation and logic does not even reach the level of convoluted.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 01:18 PM (L0kit)

Irony, line 1. Irony, line 1.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (gW5Vg)

92 Posted by: zombie at July 29, 2015 01:17 PM (jBuUi)

That is some DETAILED information!

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (jjaLl)

93 I saw a cuckservative spit on Andre Carson. And his hair was perfect.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (W5DcG)

94 Meanwhile, Fiorina gave a great speech at the Reagan Library

http://therightscoop.com/watch-carly-fiorinas-fantastic-speech-from-the-reagan-library/

and Perry is delivering a speech on banking reform right now

https://rickperry.org/reforming-wall-street

and Walker has started punching back at DT (defending his record in WI)

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/07/28/gov-scott-walker-defends-record-against-trump-attack/

But I guess those folks aren't serious candidates like Trump.

Posted by: Y-not at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (RWGcK)

95 Gabe is pissed he got schooled by Milo. That's what happens when you wallow in leftist blogs all day looking for troll material.

Gabe you suck, take it to your own blog (if you have one)

Posted by: ANIMAL-S at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (WhfU/)

96 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (kff5f)

97 Buy a cucket of chicken, and there's racist lemonade for the pickin'.

Posted by: Col. Hammond at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (bUmSq)

98 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (kff5f)

99 "
Have you read the Ace link? Is Ace a troll?"

Being wrong does not in and of itself cause someone to be a troll.

Just simply, wrong.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:23 PM (VPLuQ)

100 Is Ace a troll?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (JtwS4)

Well, he does live under a bridge...

Posted by: Billy Goat at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (vgIRn)

101 Climb Mount Tacoma

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 01:05 PM (7Eo8i)

Tara! Tara! Tara!

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

102 So we've got an openly homosexual supporter of amnesty denouncing Breitbart's website...

I think Gape is just butthurt because he's a cuckservative.

Posted by: Justfactualthings at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (oCxXI)

103 The important thing is that everyone stop what they are doing and change their opinions because twitter.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM
________

Watching CNBC today. It was The Twitter Show all morning because they just reported their quarter.

Trust me - you don't have to do anything because twitter. Not for awhile.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (k9a6m)

104 I think lots of people are unaware a word like "Cuckold" has taken on racist meaning.

Seriously before this dustup, I was totally unaware of that.
So for Gabe's group #1, I think there is a group of people who are looking for a word that describes what the leadership is doing to conservatives. This would, at first glace to those familiar with the Chaucer and Shakespeare context do that. (Conservatives are being cuckoled by the leadership and K-Street.)

Obviously though modern parlance has added some...unsavory context.

I propose the term "Connedservative" for that group one to use.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (tM4uk)

105
What a niggardly mindset.

(read it again)

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (8XRCm)

106 This intramural squabble isn't very interesting.

Without touching the merits of the argument over what this made-up word does or doesn't mean or who uses it, this whole thing is a teacup tempest of a shitstorm between bloggers.

Give it up already.

Posted by: Brewdog at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (ZgUuK)

107 The only place I've heard the term cuckservative is here, in relation to a Twitter bitch fest.

Pardon me if I worry more about real life issues than get the vapors over a social media dick measuring contest.

The average person on the street has never heard this term, nor gives a shit.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (JoIcn)

108 But, for one thing the term has taken a racial connotation in recent years.

This is a smarter restatement of what Gabe said. Bad people adopted a word, and that makes the word tainted.

I still disagree. Going back to the Bible, racists and bigots twist sections and use it for their twisted arguments. Should I get out the black marker and excise passages because of them?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (jhqr1)

109 20
Bob's House, there's a message for you at the Yahoo group.

Posted by: Mindy at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (dg8OI)

110 Gabe, cuckold has existed at least as long as cuckoos have laid eggs in other birds' nests. It isn't explicitly a racist term.

At least get your facts right if you're doing a takedown.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/cuckold

Posted by: Gaff at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (jPS2y)

111 Look the only definition I ever knew of tje word cuckold was that of a man who's wife was unfaithful to him. I learned it in high school when we were reading Shakespeare. Not being a reader of sites like Storm front I had never, ever heard of the word cuckold being used the way Gabe is telling me it is "commonly used" by white supremists. Now, given that cuckold -- the way Shakespeare used it -- isn't commonly used in modern society, it is very possible white supremists adopted it as their own, redefining it in the process, without me being aware of the alteration of it's meaning. I'm going to take Gabe's word on that. But I can guarantee I never heard the word cuckservative until a week or so ago when it blew up on Twitter and in that time white supremists have for sure taken over the word. So regardless of how it started, it's racist now and the right needs to stop quibbling over it's meaning and let the white supremists have it.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM (DKgtk)

112 Attempting to use Twitter as a medium for intelligent discourse on complex topics is a bit like trying to play Bach sonatas on a kazoo.
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On the other hand, you could perform John Cage's "Four thirty-three" on kazoo.

Thinking about it, I would favor "Hail to the Chief" be performed on kazoo every time Obama shows up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (9mTYi)

113 I continue to have no idea what the hell all this is about.

Twitter is a cesspool.

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (lIU4e)

114

Arent these the same assholes that get their noses bent over racist terms like "PB&J" and "urban" and "macaca"?

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (8XRCm)

115 " it's people who are supposed to be allies and friends giving it credence, without appreciating they're siding with white supremacists who attacked us. "

THIS.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (UBBWX)

116 Whole lotta stupid in the comments to this thread.

"Never read the comments," I suppose.

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (ewYO6)

117 "That is some DETAILED information!
"

Na...detailed info is when one goes to xvideos and choses the tag "Cuckold"

Yeh, I used to work with a guy who was the absolute King of Porn.

At one point in my life, I thought that Bridgette the Midget was just an internet myth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (VPLuQ)

118 88You have it backwards.

Leda was a Nubian.

Posted by: Zeus at July 29, 2015 01:22 PM (fOO+i)

What's a Nubian?

Posted by: Banky Edwards at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (u9OP6)

119 Step 1
Go to Youtube and find a pet video
Step 2
Read the comments, and find a comment that accuses the pet owner of abuse
Step 3
Loose your shit in reply to said comment
Step 4
Repeat until you realize that trolls post comments accusing abuse for effect and that you are an gullible moron.

Step 1
Go to Twitter ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (VY8H5)

120 cuckold has existed at least as long as cuckoos have laid eggs in other birds' nests.
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I thought that was common knowledge. How the racial stuff got mixed in, I have no idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

121
Gabe, cuckold has existed at least as long as cuckoos have laid eggs in other birds' nests. It isn't explicitly a racist term.

At least get your facts right if you're doing a takedown.

Please to re-read the post. Cuckold is not racist. Cuckservative, not an ancient Anglo-Saxonism, is.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (JtwS4)

122 The only place I've heard the term cuckservative is here, in relation to a Twitter bitch fest.

Pardon me if I worry more about real life issues than get the vapors over a social media dick measuring contest.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at July 29, 2015 01:25 PM
________

Yep and yep.

(It's all pretty twittarded, if you ask me.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (k9a6m)

123 This whole thing started with that cuckhold story about the husband who waited around while his wife banged Paulo.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (UBBWX)

124 Ace, you going to let these dumb asses do this?

I used to follow all these guys. Then I found them to be raging assholes who use liberal arguments to shut down speech.

Searcy, Malor, Levy, Gutfeld, Sooper Mexican. All the haters and losers.

Guilt by association. Fuck these guys.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:15 PM (94iKh)

Who are you to start giving orders?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

125 Okay- first off, I don't really care about this one way or the other. I haven't used the term. I don't plan on using the term. I think there are better ways to insult the DOPe. Having not used the term, nor planning on using the term, I haven't given it just a ton of consideration.

That said: If you are going to decry the term "teabagger" as a homophobic slur, then if you wish to be consistent, you must accept that the term "cuckservative" is a racist slur- or at least has deep roots with other slurs which are themselves racist.

That is not to call anyone at the HQ racist. Well, that CBD guy is a notorious anti-Semite, but other than him, it is not to call anyone at the HQ racist. It is simple acknowledgement of a fact - if you are going to claim that a slur is whatever-ist regardless of the motives of the user (many people who use "teabagger" as a pejorative have no idea from where the term comes), then you must accept that a slur is whatever-ist regardless of the motives of the user, even when you're the user.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (kff5f)

126 Posted by: Justfactualthings at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (oCxXI)

That link is to an openly racist website.

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (5fSr7)

127 Is Ace a troll?

Not usually, but when he gets upset about a topic, he argues extremely unfairly.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (jhqr1)

128 Air shall henceforth be deemed racist. Because some racists somewhere breathe it.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (UPYPp)

129 I thought that was common knowledge. How the racial stuff got mixed in, I have no idea.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

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Word!!!

Posted by: Browned Bagged Peanut Butter and Jelly Sammiches Everywhere at July 29, 2015 01:28 PM (8XRCm)

130 To believe in cuckolding as a real phenomena would require believing that married women have a discernible sex drive.

Posted by: Garrett at July 29, 2015 01:29 PM (fOO+i)

131 Stormfront hated Bush. The left wants to say people like Dylan Roof are "conservative" but I guarantee they believe all kinds of Big Nanny state ideas to protect white people.

So how does socialism evolve?

Well, you don't sell socialism with: "You're getting what you deserve. Be happy with it, but we should spread it around a little more."

Sure, there are some elite types who claim that is their motivation but (a) They don't really believe they themselves have to do any sacrificing and (b) they will be in charge of the distribution, so it satisfies their power lust.

For most people it's "I'm going to get what I deserve." They quickly find out that socialism doesn't really give them all that much. So they do the one thing that comes naturally, trying to restrict the population of people receiving benefits.

This yields fascism.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:29 PM (b65cm)

132 I'll file this in the things I could less about file. Jesus, really?

Posted by: Cheri at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (oiNtH)

133 I thought that was common knowledge. How the racial stuff got mixed in, I have no idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

common knowledge and common sense have been lost......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (0O7c5)

134 >>>Whole lotta stupid in the comments to this thread.

Troll swarm

Posted by: I. Dindoo Nuffin at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (5fSr7)

135 I have not been paying attention to this story at all really. But from what I gather, does cuckold = racial slur in the same way fa***t = gay slur? In both cases, words that traditionally meant something rather benign have been repurposed for more discriminatory purposes.

But seriously Gabe, I doubt the word cuckold meant "evil white supremacist" from the dawn of time. Is that what you are trying to say? I'm one of the few people here that genuinely like you, and even I think that pushing that as a thing is trolling a bit. It's not very attractive and beneath you, if that is what you are doing.

But I do thank you for picking up the slack while Ace is out slaying legal dragons, and for being a willing pinata for controversial topics.

*wades back out of bizarro topic*

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (hvf9s)

136 First time I actually heard the term cuckold was in the film Barry Lyndon when I saw it as a kid.

Barry was knocking around with some rich dude's pretty young wife and he knew it. Confronted Lyndon by mentioning how he was being cuckolded in his own home or something to that effect.

Being a kid I wouldn't have known what it meant but it was clear what the meaning was from the way they used it.

I'm pretty sure it's used in 19th century literature too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (oFCZn)

137
The benefit of having won the Culture War and ushered in limited government is that conservatives have the luxury of culling the herd of suspected undesirables. We're just that good.

Posted by: CJ at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (9KqcB)

138
The whole point of this post is an excuse for Gabriel Malor to make us read the negative tweets he receives.

Gabriel Malor is exactly like Andrew Sullivan. Same.Exact.M.O.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (L0kit)

139 Attempting to use Twitter as a medium for intelligent discourse on
complex topics is a bit like trying to play Bach sonatas on a kazoo.

It's hard to dig a hole with a screwdriver, but that doesn't mean screwdrivers are useless.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (/kI1Q)

140 We're going to be left with a half-dozen words, and they're all going to be programming jargon.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:21 PM (/kI1Q)

Wasn't there actualy some "dust up" about programming languages a while back?

Dust up in quotes because it was the perpetually aggrieved being...well themselves.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (tM4uk)

141 Who's leg do you gotta hump to get a pointy elbow thread around here?

Posted by: Ready for feetball at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (bUmSq)

142 Discernible Sexdrive is a great Band Name, btw.

Posted by: Garrett at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (fOO+i)

143 Conservatives who think they have a shot at securing the votes of Hispanics by supporting amnesty are living in a dream world. White people are being forced into identity politics, like it or not. The only thing left to decide is if we're going to be competent or incompetent at looking after our interests.

Shreik racist and point the shaming finger all you want, I'm not a bad guy for questioning how well the interests of me and those like me are being guarded. Main line Conservatism sure doesn't inspire confidence.

Posted by: Monty James at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (7vVGO)

144 Cuckold had been used for centuries in a non-racist way. Because a few racist idiots now use it, doesn't make the term racist. That's idiotic.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:32 PM (uHnPm)

145 White males, Gabe being one, are not authorized to determine the racistness of any word in the English language.

I thought we had gone over this, but I guess we'll have to do it again.

Dumbass cracker.

Posted by: The African American Community at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (Jktp1)

146 It is possible for a single word to have multiple definitions.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (94iKh)

147
I saw Discernable Sex Drive open up for the Butthole Surfers in 1999 at the Met.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (8XRCm)

148 Please to re-read the post. Cuckold is not racist. Cuckservative, not an ancient Anglo-Saxonism, is.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Given that the term is being used to describe a group that, by in large, is as Caucasian as the phone bank on a PBS pledge drive, Totes Conservatives claiming that The White Man is trying to keep them down is absurd.

And probably bewildering to any Freedom Riders still around.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (kdS6q)

149 Any news on whether GM opposes the CR Act of 1964? Did we get confirmation on that?

Posted by: bjk at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (x2rNW)

150 Sorry Gabe, cuckold is an old word that doesn't have a racial element.

Real actual racists want to use cuckservative for their own purposes, but I think it's a useful term to describe conservatives who are a-ok with legalizing the current immigration Charlie Foxtrot.

I won't vote for Jeb or Rubio (or Trump for that matter!) and will support anyone who will fight cuckservatives.

Posted by: Smashmaster at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (NjCPp)

151 The funny thing is that I had never heard of the term "cuckservative" until Gabe and someone over at Hot Air (can't remember who) started writing about it. And those are still the only places I've seen the term used at all. It's like a big controversy about nothing.

Posted by: Texas Zombie at July 29, 2015 01:33 PM (eGaCO)

152 Oh wait...I think I understand.
It's the concept of how a subset of culture can hijack a previously innocent phrase, word, or object, and by taking it for their own purpose twist it into a hate filled object or word, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (VPLuQ)

153 126 -

Your sock "I. Dindoo Nuffin" would be considered openly racist by many people as well.

So?

Posted by: Justfactualthings at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (oCxXI)

154 Can't we just say "to hell with racists" at the time and place when they rear their ugly heads and have done with it? Why give them any publicity?

Posted by: MTF at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (LISuA)

155 Hey, Gabe,

What's Ace's twitter handle?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (VY8H5)

156 Wasn't there actually some "dust up" about programming languages a while back?

Dust up in quotes because it was the perpetually aggrieved being...well themselves.

I don't know about that specifically, but I do remember when you used to set jumper pins on hard drives to make one a "master" and another a "slave".

People freaked out about that one.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (jhqr1)

157 I still disagree. Going back to the Bible, racists and bigots twist sections and use it for their twisted arguments. Should I get out the black marker and excise passages because of them?

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No, but your sacred text is something actually worth fighting to keep. "Cuckservative" is not sacred or even clever or funny and it's kind of a PITA to type.

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (dbrg8)

158 The Discernible Sex Drive will enable us to reach the stars.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (jAuNn)

159
Cuckold had been used for centuries in a non-racist way. Because a few racist idiots now use it, doesn't make the term racist. That's idiotic.

Jesus H Christ on a Pogo Stick, has no one read the post?

It's about the word Cuckservative, not Cuckold.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (JtwS4)

160 It's the concept of how a subset of culture can hijack a previously innocent phrase, word, or object, and by taking it for their own purpose twist it into a hate filled object or word, right?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:34 PM (VPLuQ)

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Dont be so gay.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (8XRCm)

161 common knowledge and common sense have been lost......
Posted by: phoenixgirl
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I think the use of those terms is microaggression.
Probably.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (9mTYi)

162 Of course the full word "cuckold" dates back to Middle English ca the 1300s.

The discussion is about the origins and first appearance of the shortened version "cuck."

"Cuck" comes from the fetish community, coined by men who WANT to be cuckolded.

It may have predated the mid-'90s, in underground porn or whatever, but it was not until the beginnings of the Web and of porn/fetish communities that "cuck" (that specific, shortened version) became generally known as a term, around 20 years ago.

And it was not until the last few years that a major proportion of "cuck" enthusiasts starting making it specifically racialized.

And it wasn't until about a week ago that either a white supremacist or a troll (or a supremacist troll) coined the term "cuckservative."

I guarantee this brouhaha will die out by mid-August at the latest -- or the next time an odontologist shoots a cuddly panda.

Posted by: zombie at July 29, 2015 01:36 PM (jBuUi)

163 I'm still not sure of what a cuckservative is.

Is it worse than being a pedotarian?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:36 PM (k9a6m)

164 Hey guys, look! Some idiot white supremacists used the same word you did! Better drop it immediately!

Also, white supremacists oppose illegal immigration/massive legal immigration! That means you have to accept massive immigration, otherwise you're supporting white supremacy!

Hold on. Actually, the above is complete nonsense, and precisely the sort of shitty logic the people slinging the cuckservative label are largely talking about.

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 01:36 PM (DUynq)

165 I'm not a bad guy ...

Posted by: Monty James at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (7vVGO)

Yes. Yes you are.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:36 PM (b65cm)

166 >> Who are you to start giving orders?

Who's giving orders? I'm being opinionated. Obviously.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:37 PM (94iKh)

167 Did someone say Kochservative?

'Cause I've got that trademarked.

Posted by: Dingy Harry at July 29, 2015 01:37 PM (w9WoH)

168
There appears to be a surfeit of IDGAFF stories bouncing off the walls lately: Cecil the lion (never heard of him), this "cuckservative" nonsense, and "Caitlyn's reality show" debut, to name just a few.

As a society, we've moved well beyond having an attention deficit disorder to become one that has no discernable attention span at all. We will pay, and pay dearly, for this.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (Q93AK)

169 BCochran, you still here?

Completely OT, but have wanted to let you know for a while now that it broke my heart a little when Alex spoiled the ending to Ender's Game to you. On the podcast. For all of us to hear. Is such an amazing twist, is like getting spoiled about Luke's father before watching Star Wars. I am sad you are now denied that literary pleasure.

At the same time, you're around the same age as me and you hadn't read it yet??? I'm not even a big sci-fi person and I have read it no less than 5 times. Such a good book. What is wrong with you?

Still is worth reading, when you get a chance.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (hvf9s)

170 you know the rainbow? it was God's promise to Noah.....that's what it is....and it upsets the ghey's when i point it out to them......since they think the rainbow is theirs.....it's everyone's....because of God's promise to Noah.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (0O7c5)

171 Is it worse than being a pedotarian?
Posted by: FireHorse
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Not sure.
But it seems better than being a thespian.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (9mTYi)

172 Wasn't there actualy some "dust up" about programming languages a while back?

The languages themselves? All the kerfluffles that have come to my attention have been something someone (sometimes the accused, sometimes the accusers, sometimes both) said at conferences.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (/kI1Q)

173 cuckhold is an old word, and not racist. The people getting worked up do know that, right?

I don't' personally give a shit what dumb words some dumb white supremacists use. I will continue to use proper English words for their proper meanings...

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (lIU4e)

174 No, but your sacred text is something actually worth fighting to keep. "Cuckservative" is not sacred or even clever or funny and it's kind of a PITA to type.

I think we're reading Gabe differently. This section specifically: In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc.

Seems to me he's arguing we shouldn't use "cuck" or "cuckold" because it's a "noun used by white supremacists".

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (jhqr1)

175 I'm pretty sure it's used in 19th century literature too.Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:30 PM (oFCZn)It goes back further than that in literature. My first exposure to it was Moliere's L'Ecole Des Femmes, which was written in the mid-1600s.

Posted by: radar at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (kQfqk)

176 If the recent Trump surge has taught me anything, it's that many on the right are as shallow, uninformed, and....well, stupid...as any low-info voter on the left.

People running around throwing "cuckservative" insults is further proof.

I'm tired of Failure Theater, crony capitalism, amnesty hucksters, big government, and establishment Republicans, too...but behaving like this won't change anything for the better.

Posted by: DRayRaven at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (9YRwm)

177 >>>It's about the word Cuckservative, not Cuckold.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (JtwS4)>>>

I feel ya. It's the "conservative" part of that hybrid word that's racist, amiright?

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (aR++5)

178 117 "That is some DETAILED information!
"

Na...detailed info is when one goes to xvideos and choses the tag "Cuckold"

Yeh, I used to work with a guy who was the absolute King of Porn.

At one point in my life, I thought that Bridgette the Midget was just an internet myth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:26 PM (VPLuQ)

The more you know...the more you wish didn't.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (mx5oN)

179 I guarantee this brouhaha will die out by mid-August at the latest -- or the next time an odontologist shoots a cuddly panda.

Posted by: zombie at July 29, 2015 01:36 PM (jBuUi)

Hopefully it doesn't die out. The important thing is to keep writing about it until the media notice so they can use it to bash all conservatives.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:40 PM (oFCZn)

180 It's not actually about Cuckservative.

From Gabe.

In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc.

So, it's really about the noun "Cuck" and its cultural misappropriation by the racist subset of humanity.

And cultural misappropriation is never to be accepted.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:40 PM (VPLuQ)

181 Posted by: Monty James at July 29, 2015 01:31 PM (7vVGO)

FWIW, I happen to think we live in an emotivist culture and you need 50%+1 to win.

I find the idea of amnesty abhorrent from a rule of law standpoint.
I also recognize that it's highly unlikely we're going to convince 50%+1 of people that. I don't know what the coming compromise looks like, but we should probably be wargaming it now, because otherwise the Democrat's "Awww, shucks just forgive them all" will be winning answer.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:40 PM (tM4uk)

182 I always figured that cuckservative had something to do with Bruce Jenner cheating on himself.

Or something.

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 01:40 PM (UzPAd)

183 >>>I'm tired of Failure Theater, crony capitalism, amnesty hucksters, big government, and establishment Republicans, too...but behaving like this won't change anything for the better.
Posted by: DRayRaven at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (9YRwm)>>>

I'm also tired of fascist thought and word police.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:40 PM (aR++5)

184 So the world has solve all it's problems and now when can worry about made up words? Good to know Gabe.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (sgrzZ)

185 As a society, we've moved well beyond having an attention deficit disorder to become one that has no discernable attention span at all. We will pay, and pay dearly, for this.
Posted by: Krebs
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The media.
Who are populated from academe.
Which has been taken over by the Left.
Who are enabled by the politicians.
Who are elected by the media.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (9mTYi)

186 And by the way.

The whole "You guys, some shitty people are using the same term as you, that means you have to drop it and disavow it NOW" line was used on Gamergate people. They refused, and for good reason.

The same thing is happening here. Just as it happened with Trump, who you should /totally disown and condemn, you guys/, because we can NOT talk about immigration like that, EVER.

When someone describes illegal immigration as an act of love that we should welcome and embrace, yep, that's cuckservative talk.

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (DUynq)

187 "Oh wait...I think I understand.
It's the concept of how a subset of culture can hijack a previously innocent phrase, word, or object, and by taking it for their own purpose twist it into a hate filled object or word, right?"

It's about allowing that to happen. Going along with it.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (94iKh)

188 So what would happen if Stormfront types start pejoratively calling a black person a "gabe"?

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (ljAhW)

189
I feel ya. It's the "conservative" part of that hybrid word that's racist, amiright?

Read what Ace wrote on Friday. It's the first link.

I am shocked, shocked, that the entire Horde is arguing about something that was not posited in the post.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (JtwS4)

190 It's about the word Cuckservative, not Cuckold.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (JtwS4)>>>

I feel ya. It's the "conservative" part of that hybrid word that's racist, amiright?
Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (aR++5)

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Yeah... I dont get it either. White racists yelling a made up word at other white people who oppose white Donald Trump is now somehow Whitey keepin the brothers down.

((shrug))

**spit**

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (8XRCm)

191 Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (/kI1Q)

I think it was the "Master/Slave" thing that Bonhomme mentioned.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (tM4uk)

192 If "cuckservative" is racist, who's offended? Is it the African-Estadounidenses?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (k9a6m)

193 Twitter user makes broad generalization. Twitter users respond with insults. The effect on the real world? Zero. One of the most insidious things about Twitter culture is how the all day users come to consider their little bitchfests as the cutting edge of the national discourse. Nope. It's just retards in a sandbox flinging cat turds at each other and crying when they get a little on them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (2cS/G)

194 What if racists start calling people "Gabes." Will Gabe change his name?

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (aR++5)

195 "I propose the term "Connedservative" for that group one to use."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:24 PM (tM4uk)

104 - isn't connedservative what voters who gave the drunk, J. Boehner, and Bitch McConnell the house and senate recently are?

Posted by: the Butcher at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (fUjxW)

196 "I don't know about that specifically, but I do remember when you used to
set jumper pins on hard drives to make one a 'master' and another a 'slave'. People freaked out about that one."

Fortunately, SJWs are not the sort of people to look under the hoods of cars and start asking what the components are named.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (noWW6)

197 Completely OT, but have wanted to let you know for a while now that it broke my heart a little when Alex spoiled the ending to Ender's Game to you. On the podcast. For all of us to hear. Is such an amazing twist, is like getting spoiled about Luke's father before watching Star Wars. I am sad you are now denied that literary pleasure.

At the same time, you're around the same age as me and you hadn't read it yet??? I'm not even a big sci-fi person and I have read it no less than 5 times. Such a good book. What is wrong with you?

Still is worth reading, when you get a chance.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (hvf9s)

Ha! I know, right?

Honestly, I've always been more into the fantasy genre than SciFi. You'll find Tolkien and Jordan and Sanderson and Goodkind and Brooks on my shelves.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (gW5Vg)

198 It's about the word Cuckservative, not Cuckold.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:35 PM (JtwS4)

Read the post? Sir, may I refer you to page 374 of the AoSHQ Style Guide? Reading the post before commenting is a possible violation of etiquette.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (hLRSq)

199 >> It's like a big controversy about nothing.

This is true of almost every twitter controversy ever.

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (lIU4e)

200 I feel ya. It's the "conservative" part of that hybrid word that's racist, amiright?

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:39 PM (aR++5)

I didn't need this keyboard anyway. Going to miss the monitor, though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (oFCZn)

201 I guarantee this brouhaha will die out by mid-August at the latest -- or the next time an odontologist shoots a cuddly panda.

#twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (TW49l)

202 Jesus H Christ on a Pogo Stick, has no one read the post?

I see you're new here.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (/kI1Q)

203 What if racists start calling people "Gabes." Will Gabe change his name?
Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (aR++5)

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Gabe is short for gaboon. Which sounds like baboon. Which is racist.......

.... i think...

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (8XRCm)

204 It's like a big controversy about nothing.

It's because (a) the portmanteau is somewhat clever (until it's used over and over and over and over again) and (b) reflects a genuine frustration at GOP leadership (no coincidence it popped up during the most recent McConnell "stuff it, conservatives" push".

So it makes sense. But if you search that hashtag on Twitter...you need to take a shower afterwards.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (b65cm)

205 >What if racists start calling people "Gabes." Will Gabe change his name?

Oh my god you guys. You guys, listen!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spade

SPADE IS A RACIST TERM.

Ace of Spades has to change names, NOW.

Racism, you guys!

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (DUynq)

206 >>> Jesus H Christ on a Pogo Stick, has no one read the post?

It is the Moron way.

Gabe is getting hung up on the origins of "cuck," it looks like.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (hvf9s)

207 It seems that some are conflating the use of the term "cuckold" with the use of the term "cuckservative." The white power assholes invented the word "cuckservative" as a slur against anyone who isn't down for the white power struggle.

I don't see Gabe or Ace or Searcy or Sooper Mexican saying that using the word "cuckold" is racist.

Posted by: holygoat at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (t3wLW)

208 #cuckservative?

Yeah. I got nothing.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (8ZskC)

209 I think we're reading Gabe differently. This section specifically: In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc.

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We are reading it differently, but it's splitting hairs since people actually use the word "cuckold" or "cuck" separately from "cuckservative" in real life about as often as "niggardly".

Essentially, before using any of those terms as an insult in this context, you should probably be aware that it's gotten an ugly racial connotation lately. If you still want to use it, you're probably gonna be called on that.

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (dbrg8)

210 Circular firing squad...

Lets find the few idiots ... and blast their replies to the world to prove our point.

Cuckhold videos on the internet had NOTHING to do with race, although Black males are in a lot of them. Saying they are Racist in nature is like saying the NFL is Racist because it has a lot of Black in it.

And the original term WAS used a lot by Shakespeare....

But, as usual, many WANT to make it Racist... because it is an attack that is both correct... and EFFECTIVE.

And will use the few truly Racist examples to silence all the rest of us.

Its like allowing the Westborro Baptists to speak for all Christians... or Ron Paul to speak for all Libertarians...

And its straight out of Alinsky.

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (qh617)

211 You keep using that word... and I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (w9WoH)

212 Yeah, I hear ya' man. The term cuckservative is pregnant with racist sentiment but a few things need to be "unpacked". First, let's careful about the definitions that accompany "racist". A person who holds a supremacist and/ or prejudicial view regarding race can be described as a "racist". A person who takes an action that deprives a person of something based on race is also a racist. However, I don't want to do the Leftist thing where the two items are conflated with one another. Saying nasty things about people based on their race is not the same as doing nasty things to people based on race. And I dispute the claim that racist thoughts and ideas inevitably lead to racist actions.

Secondly, don't lose sight of the fact that the "cuckservative" epithet is also a metaphor. That epithet rests on the belief that the society is polarized by racial lines and that the so-called cuckservative, through their actions and policy preferences, simultaneously acknowledge differing interests based on communities where race creates a common interest but deliberately omits a particular interest in their pursuit of political gain. The cuckservative epithet speaks to this contradiction, and the conditions that produce this contradiction are real.

This is what I call a "white folks fight back" moment and I think it completely justified. Somehow our political system has been leveraged in a way where discussion of racist acts perpetrated by members of the Black community's "lower tier" is deemed as racist; where the articulation of racist generalizations made about whites by members of the Black leftist intelligencia is not racist; where any and all acts of violence by whites, and anything perceived to have a connection to whiteness, against Blacks are presumed to be racist regardless of the facts. By the way, the very same societal faction that leverages our political system in this fashion are also the same people who work tirelessly to either marginalize discussions on Black on Black crime or deliberately deny the existence of such.

I'll stop here so as to be brief.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (H7qBA)

213 It beats soaking your cork.

Posted by: Roy at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (VndSC)

214 Huh. My hash saved me from the barrel...

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (/kI1Q)

215 >>>Read what Ace wrote on Friday. It's the first link.

I am shocked, shocked, that the entire Horde is arguing about something that was not posited in the post.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:41 PM (JtwS4)>>>

Read it. Thought it was nonsense. Ace didn't like being called a racist or a race traitor, so he defended Gabe calling all Trump supporters racists.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (aR++5)

216 You're all a bunch of racist homos. Or something. I'm not sure.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (mx5oN)

217 Cuckold is described in Wikipedia ... pretty long entry, not a word about the racial aspect. To say it is "settled science" that it's now deemed racist is crazy. Is that official AoS policy ... "here's how these terms must be defined here, and never used because it's deemed offensive, so saith Malor"?

SOME might use "cuckservative" that way, but the first usage of that new term generally defines the term. Some may have perverted it ... idk. I don't use either term.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (6zZ5y)

218 I don't know about this awkward word "cuckservative" -- but I sure as shit am going to stop taking my kids to the pedotrician!

Posted by: wooga at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (zHvpi)

219 Maybe it's just miscommunication, but the "It's not racist!" folks seem (to me) to be making this argument.

P1) I am not a racist.
P2) I am using the term cuckservative.
C) The term cuckservative cannot be racist.

Which is an invalid syllogism. The fact that you use a term has no effect on its meaning - either denotation or connotation.

As an alternative, some seem to be saying, "Well, yes, it may be racist - or used by racists in specifically racist ways - but I should be able to say whatever I want without their usage being assigned to me."

But that does not hold, either. As I mentioned above, the term "teabagger" is regarded as a homophobic slur regardless of the motives of the person using it. If they are ignorant of it's history, we inform them - and those who do not wish to use homophobic slurs stop using the term.

As such the neologism ("new word" for those without a program) "cuckservative" is defined as meaning whatever the most people *think* it means - or, at least, whatever the loudest group(s) say it means.

I mentioned miscommunication above. To communicate requires a message (the thing I think in my head), encoding (turning it into words), transmission, reception, and decoding (the receiver turning it from words into thoughts in their head). If you are using a term and it is being uniformly received (or nearly uniformly received) as a racist slur, then for all intents and purposes it is a racist slur. You can attempt to educate everyone with whom you are trying to communicate, or you can accept the common definition of the word you're using.

For me, I'd just drop the word.

But I'm lazy, so what do I know?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (kff5f)

220 "And cultural misappropriation is never to be accepted."

Of course, in practical terms, the widespread application of such a rule means that all culture and cultural discourse promptly grinds to a halt.

It's rather like the fabled National Conversation On Race. Which never gets out of the starting blocks because one side invariably accuses the other of racism at once.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (noWW6)

221 SPADE IS A RACIST TERM. Ace of Spades has to change names, NOW.
Posted by: Crude

Sorry. All outrage is situational.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

222 Fortunately, SJWs are not the sort of people to look under the hoods of cars and start asking what the components are named.

This hose goes in the blower.....

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (TW49l)

223
*maintains a low profile*

Posted by: Badcock Home Furniture at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (9mTYi)

224
Folks, it's racist. I'm also on Twitter and the people using it ARE racist and anti-semitic too.
The Right Stuff had an article "explaining" it's "real" meaning and the comments are filled with racism and anti-semitism.
So yes I am backing up what Gabe says and you know I am not a fan of him or his views, but he's right on this.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (8marX)

225 Simple question, Mr. Malor:

Any acknowledgement of Whites as a group with shared interests is not acceptable?

If not, why is that not true of all other races in America?

Posted by: MC Slammer at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (eKIg1)

226 Shouldn't we be able to search on "cuckservative" and determine the date of its first use online?

This should be easy to do, but I don't see an immediately easy way to do this with google or bing.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 01:46 PM (wfznB)

227 Is it too late to turn this into a gardening thread? Someone activate the Y-Not Bat Signal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:46 PM (8ZskC)

228 Can we talk about important things?

The weather here has been awful (surprisingly not deadly that I've heard yet.)

So bad that Monday I got home and my bathroom ceiling was covered in water.
No not a roof leak, it's so hot and humid that air started flowing back in through the bathroom exhaust fan and with no where to go it just condensed on the ceiling. (Running the fan got rid of most of it, plus some AC to bring down the humidity.)

It started that again on Tuesday but I was home this time and caught it in time that it didn't get past the "glistening" stage (Monday was in full blown "raining from the ceiling")

Fucking insane.
STL has had hot summers (110+F) and humid summers (dew points in the mid to high 70s) but this is the first time I remember both of those happening at once. (Usually the intense humidity prevents that temp from hitting triple digits.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:46 PM (tM4uk)

229 >>> How the racial stuff got mixed in, I have no idea.

Its from the White Man keeping the 2.5 foot tall scaly horned brown Humanoid down !

Posted by: Kobold at July 29, 2015 01:46 PM (3ZtZW)

230 170 you know the rainbow? it was God's promise to Noah.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:38 PM (0O7c5)

Interesting, given the "one male, one female" part.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:46 PM (b65cm)

231 Why use "cuckservative," anyway.

"GOP" seems to do the job.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (wfznB)

232 *maintains a low profile*
Posted by: Badcock Home Furniture
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Yeah, us too.

Posted by: Sillcocks at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (9mTYi)

233 >> I don't see Gabe or Ace or Searcy or Sooper Mexican saying that using the word "cuckold" is racist.

I see them getting pissy over bullshit and not co-opting that shit like a fucking man. It is totally descriptive and evocative of how a large portion of the base feels about the party.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (94iKh)

234 Does anyone remember the

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (dbrg8)

235 Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (b65cm)

Which is why I proposed "Connedservative" to take it's place.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (tM4uk)

236 Twitter is the online equivalent of teenage girls bitching at each other because one of them said hi to the cute guy when she KNEW that the other one was interested in him.

The real world just rolls their eyes at them and cant believe they're arguing over shit like this.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (JoIcn)

237 You people are crazy!

Posted by: Mandingo at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (JO9+V)

238 The nation, and indeed the world, are on fire.

Our civil rights are vanishing before our very eyes.

World War III is firing up in slow motion as we go through each day.

And this is what Gabriel Malor brings to the table.

Libertine nonsense from a nonsensical libertine. Same crap, different day.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (6JL3d)

239 And 'f****t' isn't allowed any more.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (94iKh)

240 >>>Essentially, before using any of those terms as an insult in this context, you should probably be aware that it's gotten an ugly racial connotation lately. If you still want to use it, you're probably gonna be called on that.
Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:44 PM (dbrg

>>>

I just love the Orwellian SJW thought police limiting the words I'm allowed to use. Criticize Obama and you're going to be called a racist too.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (aR++5)

241 Words are scary.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (2cS/G)

242 221
SPADE IS A RACIST TERM. Ace of Spades has to change names, NOW.

Posted by: Crude

Sorry. All outrage is situational.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

And, first, you will blow me.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (Vf5rR)

243 Interesting, given the "one male, one female" part.

One of the unicorns was trans*.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (/kI1Q)

244 Essentially, before using any of those terms as an insult in this context, you should probably be aware that it's gotten an ugly racial connotation lately. If you still want to use it, you're probably gonna be called on that.

: ) That will never apply to me. I will not use cuck or cuckold as an insult, or in this context. I do appreciate the fair warning.

My disapproval is with people making language a landmine in which innocent words mark one a secret racist. Specifically the word cuckold, not cuckservative.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (jhqr1)

245

This is what I call a "white folks fight back" moment and I think it completely justified.

I will guess that it's an artifact of Twitter that the appearance of one word in the title of a blog post has attracted so many new faces with such...interesting opinions.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (JtwS4)

246 next topic, please

Posted by: seamrog at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (y27YU)

247 The issue is very simple, really. Some people fear being lumped with others they consider their lessers. This is part of human nature, to be part of the in-group and not the out-group. The need to belong. It's most common among women and the insecure people on the political Left, but it affects the Right to a lesser extent. To deal with out-groups, people who have a need to be admired by the in-groups will disparage and denigrate the out-groups.

As my father used to say, though, you shouldn't care what people think about you -- especially people who hate you. Gabe, the left hates you. Polite society hates you. They think you are a racist by the simple fact you identify yourself as a conservative. Your going on about this here and on Twitter gains you nothing but the disdain of other conservatives. You'd do better to ignore the #cuckservatives. They'd go away soon enough. But, then, you'd lose the opportunity to preen.

Posted by: Nomennovum at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (0z+LY)

248 Does anyone remember the
Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:47 PM (dbrg

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OH SHIT!!!!! The NSA got Jenny!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (8XRCm)

249
I can't wait for the SJW's to attack attack pipe fittings.
"All pipe fitting references must be gender neutral!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (9mTYi)

250 remember when being "gay" meant you were happy, cheerful and upbeat, instead of being a whiny, bitchy, perpetually offended high maintenance douchebag that has to always get their way, because "#outrage!"?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (Vha1U)

251 NFL training camps getting under way.

Or is that underweigh? Not sure if naval term.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (jAuNn)

252 And 'f****t' isn't allowed any more.

Ferret?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (8ZskC)

253 "attack, attack"? Hmm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (9mTYi)

254 Oh for fucks sake, my phone hates me

I mean : does anyone remember the thread arguing whether it was racist of Ted Nugent to call Obama "a half-breed mongrel"? That was fun, too

(Spoiler: yes it's racist)

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (dbrg8)

255 Maybe you can tell us about how Abhorrent it is, Gabe.

Posted by: Roman Dmowski at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (3/wVX)

256 So it makes sense. But if you search that hashtag on Twitter...you need to take a shower afterwards.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:43 PM (b65cm)

Yeah it's sort of like "Cuckservative - wow, that's a somewhat witty insult," and then - because you hadn't heard the word before last week - decide to take a look into it you find that (a) it has been around a lot longer than last week and (b) it doesn't mean quite what you thought it meant, and (c) you decide that you aren't going to say "whoops, I got that one wrong" you are instead going to (d) double down and insist that your definition is the true definition, not the one that was in use before you ran across the word.

And that's where the silly really begins.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (hLRSq)

257 What about weasels?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (8ZskC)

258 I saw a men's and woman's bathroom. Separate but equal still lives! Abhorrent discrimination, according to Gabe.

Posted by: Roman Dmowski at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (3/wVX)

259 next topic, please

I'm going for the frontal threadjack assault.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (jAuNn)

260 Mike, don't give them any ideas.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (wfznB)

261 Cuckold is described in Wikipedia ... pretty long entry, not a word about the racial aspect. To say it is "settled science" that it's now deemed racist is crazy.

Agree.

Also, they seem to be saying racists are the only ones who have shortened the word, without acknowledging that mashing words together is a thing we all do now, so it wouldn't necessarily follow that mashing cuckhold and conservative together would have anything to do with this alterna meaning of 'cuck'.

But ultimately, I don't give a shit.

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (lIU4e)

262 If you're so paranoid of being called 'racist' that you'll drop terms or even whole causes out of fear of being associated with racists, despite neither the word nor the issue actually being racist...

You might be a cuckservative.

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (DUynq)

263 "I don't see Gabe or Ace or Searcy or Sooper Mexican saying that using the word "cuckold" is racist."

No, their not saying that.

But what they are doing is allowing the misappropriation of words and culture by racists without a fight.

And then, after surrendering, saying that we have to play by the rules and talk nice.

He, screw that.

If the noun "Cuck" has no formal history of racism associated with it, and if the new racist definition is not allowed to be assigned to it, the entire Cuckservative brouhaha falls to shit.

Sort of like then Niggardly was used correctly, and the user had to apologize to the less educated individual for assuming a meaning which didn't exist.

Rather then simply saying 'Nest time, read the fcuking dictionary".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (VPLuQ)

264 *maintains a low profile*
Posted by: Badcock Home Furniture
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Yeah, us too.
Posted by: Sillcocks

Same here.
-Billy Glasscock & Crystal Ball

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (TW49l)

265 Shouldn't we be able to search on "cuckservative" and determine the date of its first use online?

July 18 by...it rhymes with Stooks Stain.

That seems to be the origin and the original tweet was racist.

AllenG has it right: "But that does not hold, either. As I mentioned above, the term "teabagger" is regarded as a homophobic slur regardless of the motives of the person using it. If they are ignorant of it's history, we inform them - and those who do not wish to use homophobic slurs stop using the term. "

But if somebody uses it unknowingly (and trust me, the White Supremacists are easy to spot) I can't really chastise them too much for using an 11-day-old "racial slur".

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (b65cm)

266 Honestly, I've always been more into the fantasy
genre than SciFi. You'll find Tolkien and Jordan and Sanderson and
Goodkind and Brooks on my shelves. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:42 PM (gW5Vg)

Same here, more a fantasy person, though still have not plumbed the depths of the genre and don't know all the authors I should be reading. Which is why I love the podcasts. You got me to read the Emperor's Edge series, which has some clunky writing in the first book but overall I liked! Am on the second now. So thanks for the recommend.

What Sanderson series do you recommend reading first? His novels are like phone books, I have no clue where to start but know it will be an investment. But a good one, everyone I know that's read him loves him.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (hvf9s)

267 I think ace's term "failure theatre" is racist. After all, all white people think of blacks as failures, and "theatre" can be interpreted to refer to old vaudeville routines where whites went on-stage in blackface. So the term refers to a GOP leadership acting like black failures. You can see where "RINO" has the same sort of problem.

In short, no terms or memes critical of the GOP establishment can be allowed.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (nFdGS)

268 The good/nicer definition is often the better one.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (94iKh)

269 OH SHIT!!!!! The NSA got Jenny!!!

Jen-ny they got your number
They're gonna jail and fine
Jen-ny they got yer numbeeer

Posted by: Kobold at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (3ZtZW)

270 "Ace of S-Words HQ"" should be the new name of the blog. Consistency, bitchez.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (2cS/G)

271 What we are seeing is that the Pundits are busy defining terms for us....

Wouldn't normal usage be for the MAJORITY of people to decide what a term means... and if it is racist or not?

Oh... wait... sorry.... standard usage of terms is a Conservative value...

ergo Cuckhold is now a Racist term, because a VERY small subsection of people use it as a Racist term... and the PRESS (in this case the Pundits on the net) agree....

Its all about who has the power to decide what Language you can use... because when you control the Language, you control the debate.

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 29, 2015 01:52 PM (qh617)

272 I mean : does anyone remember the thread arguing whether it was racist of Ted Nugent to call Obama "a half-breed mongrel"? That was fun, too

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Yes.... I seem to remember the management here chastising the rest of us for not accepting the premise that mongrel is a racist term.

Quite the heated discussion id I remember.

I guess it all depends on who's Ox is getting gored and by whom.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:52 PM (8XRCm)

273 And 'f****t' isn't allowed any more.
________

Ferret?
________

Did you forg--

-- did you not remember?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:52 PM (k9a6m)

274 WTF is going on ACE?
Between G hey your'e all racist now Malor and Drew shut up you conservative Tea party terrorist, I don't even recognize this site.

Posted by: brainpimp at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (zosQc)

275 >>>Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (kff5f)>>>

Criticism of Obama is also considered racist by a great portion of the populace. Better drop that too.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (aR++5)

276
BTW - I was touted as the sort of fiscally conservative/socially moderate Nu Conservative that the GOP should look to for leadership. I was even shortlisted by Romney for VP.

And I don't have a problem with other men having sex with my wife. So, we're good to go.

Posted by: Gov Mitch "After You Alphonse!" Daniels

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (kdS6q)

277 "Cuckservative" might apply without the racist aspect, because the drive for the illegal Hispanic vote is so intense even by RINOs, that they sell out the base (but the base is the husband, and the RINO is the one having "sex" with illegals).

And indeed, "cuckold" derives from cuckoo, referring to the female changing her mate frequently. Isn't that what our RINOs do? They kiss up to the base, but "service" illegals and the chamber, and expect us to stay loyal.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (6zZ5y)

278 Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line

Yay! Jenny got away from the NSA!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (TW49l)

279 WTF?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (evdj2)

280 SIDEBAR:DeepStuff: Engineers demonstrate the world's first white lasers

The racism here ... it's just so... **runs weeping **

Posted by: socalled justice weft cut-loop at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (VY8H5)

281 Ok, War of Northern Aggression. Discuss

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (sgrzZ)

282 Sort of like then Niggardly was used correctly, and the user had to apologize to the less educated individual for assuming a meaning which didn't exist.

Rather then simply saying 'Nest time, read the fcuking dictionary".

What about the time someone was in a Uni library, reading about the Uni of Notre Dame and their fight against the Klan. Someone saw the cover of the book and had a fainting spell. They made the reader of a library book about fighting, and winning against the Klan, apologize.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (jhqr1)

283 The nation, and indeed the world, are on fire.

Our civil rights are vanishing before our very eyes.

World War III is firing up in slow motion as we go through each day.

And this is what Gabriel Malor brings to the table.

Libertine nonsense from a nonsensical libertine. Same crap, different day.

Totally. You should go start your own blog so you can discuss these important issues without being sidetracked by such libertine nonsense. Let me know when it's up and running. I'll totes be right over...

Posted by: holygoat at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (t3wLW)

284 OT, cause I don't get this thing anyway, but the killer of Cecil the lion donated to Romney !!!!!

Posted by: donna at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (hUdMz)

285 "Cuck", a derivative of "cuckhold" has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Gabe is full of shit on this.

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (P/xrJ)

286 Here's what I hear: Someone made up a word and used it to mean a thing, but then some other people used it to mean this other thing that's related to the first thing but it's bad, and other people disagreed and there was butthurt and Twitter slapfighting and blah blah blah blah blah

I want to take this moment to add that I've never thought much of Erick Erickson and really do not care what he has to say about anything. I've never felt that he added anything to any debate on any subject. I'm sure he's a fine fellow. I just don't feel like I gain anything on the few occasions that I read his stuff.

Posted by: Brewdog at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (ZgUuK)

287 I'd describe myself as more of a cuck-sure-ative.

Posted by: Johnny Rambone at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (NpXoL)

288 Words and flags will bust my bags,
but Jihadis will never hurt me.

Posted by: dogfish at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (jWtyG)

289 I'll just split the difference and call them cocksucking traitors.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (evdj2)

290
FYI, there are a bunch of web sites out there that promote limited government and take a politically incorrect view of racial issues. They've essentially adopted the Left's identity politics, white version.

Until we get serious about destroying the Democrats' use of identity politics (say, when no Democrat feels safe being photographed with Al Sharpton) we can expect more of this. It's inevitable. Either everyone rejects race/identity politics, or we all will have to embrace it. Pick an approach, but the status quo can't last.

Posted by: CJ at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (9KqcB)

291 This reminds me of the old saw about when someone's pointing at the moon, only the fool looks at the finger.

The bigger issue is the pusillanimity of the GOPe and their timid little mousie followers.

Stay on target.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (wfznB)

292
"I will guess that it's an artifact of Twitter that the appearance of one word in the title of a blog post has attracted so many new faces with such...interesting opinions."

I noticed that as well.
Like I said, I am on Twitter and the people throwing cuckservative around have tweeted multiple racist slurs about minorities and Jews.
So yes, it's racist.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (LWWrf)

293 White lasers will enable us to reach the stars.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (jAuNn)

294 All you have to do to stop those idiots in their tracks is ask if they know the name of their grandfather's mother.
They preach "Heritage" but don't know a bit of their own.

Posted by: Kindofa Dick (@DicksTrash) at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (q20+R)

295 My disapproval is with people making language a landmine in which innocent words mark one a secret racist. Specifically the word cuckold, not cuckservative.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 29, 2015 01:48 PM (jhqr1)

Yes. The 'teabag' thing is another example. A small group uses this in a dirty manner, so someone innocently mentioning a tea bag, which is a real thing that people use every day, become this whole snicker fest. Maddening.

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (lIU4e)

296 278 Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line

Yay! Jenny got away from the NSA!

---

What, like it's hard? Come on, government employees are no match for a moronette armed with a slightly glitchy iPhone.

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (dbrg8)

297 And you know what... I need to say this again.

Nick Searcy was a real fucking jerk on twitter.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (94iKh)

298 The folks insisting there's nothing wrong with cuckservative, don't seem to get that for most of us, the only context we've seen it in was this weekend, being inundated with white-supremacists, neo-nazis and 'racial realists' who tweeted dozens of racist, anti-Semitic memes at us, and who came back with fake accounts after they got blocked.

It's where it originated, and it's the only way we've seen it used.

Until our friends turned it on us.

Back to the vandalism analogy. Telling me you use spraypaint to refinish your deck chairs doesn't comfort me while i'm scrubbing "CUCKSERVATIVE!!" of the front of my house.

Posted by: coondawg68 at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (xdOnn)

299 People being called cuckservatives don't like being called cuckservatives, so they adopt the minority usage of the term to call its users racist. Peak Orwell.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (aR++5)

300

Folks, it's racist. I'm also on Twitter and the people using it ARE racist and anti-semitic too.
The Right Stuff had an article "explaining" it's "real" meaning and the comments are filled with racism and anti-semitism.
So yes I am backing up what Gabe says and you know I am not a fan of him or his views, but he's right on this.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 29, 2015 01:45 PM (8marX)

Every damn thing a person not kowtowing to the libertine zeitgeist of today is racist.

Every single damned position held on any topic by any demographic can and will be shared by racists, bigots, murderers, rapists, thieves, scoundrels, villains, ne'er-do-wells and politicians who have political and social opinions that will then be used by the political opponents of the Right to denounce that cause as inherently wicked.

All conservatives do these days is worry about what other people think. That's why we have the leadership we have right now.

There's nothing hard about this. Because an evil man shares the same opinion you do, or uses a catchphrase of yours elsewhither, does not mean the opinion or the catchphrase is wicked. Discernment, people. Discernment.

Some folks honestly wake up in the morning, wondering how they can cede ground to the people who hate them in order to appear more pure and worthy of respect in the political arena. It is a fool's errand to seek respect from those who wish to very literally destroy you.

If this is the important issue of the era, whether or not a rather ancient word has been co-opted by worthless Stormfronters in an attempt to make themselves feel good on Twitter and what the conservative Right ought to do about it as a whole, then please, for the love of mike, start reserving bunks at the re-education camps, and save yourselves (and me) some bloody time.

Is there nothing else worthy of discussion today other than Malor's deep-seeded need to explain to his ostensible allies what terrible people they are? Nothing?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (6JL3d)

301 ergo Cuckhold is now a Racist term, because a VERY small subsection of people use it as a Racist term

No, it's not a very small subsection when it comes to "cuckservative". It's dominated by white supremacists and they've decided it will pepper their entire vocabulary.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (b65cm)

302 "Ugly word used by ugly people for ugly purposes."
Agreed (& by those ignorant of its meaning)

Racist white supremacists trying to hijack conservative discourse & anger: eff that. That's not what conservatism is about.
Conservatives have better words; why adopt trolls' words.

Posted by: Lael at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (yrklk)

303
OH SHIT!!!!! The NSA got Jenny!!!

Oh god, that's horrible. Oh poor, poor Jenny. She was such a good girl.

Dibs on her bunk.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (JtwS4)

304
next topic, please

Why defunding Planned Parenthood is not the hill for the GOP die on.

Unless you're a baby, then -- ok -- it sort of is.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (kdS6q)

305 I saw The Cuckservatives open for The Runaways at Metro West back in '79.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (oFCZn)

306 If you're so paranoid of being called 'racist' that
you'll drop terms or even whole causes out of fear of being associated
with racists, despite neither the word nor the issue actually being
racist...
You might be a cuckservative. Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (DUynq)
If someone decided to use the word "cucksucker" instead to describe the GOP, are they racist AND homophobic? Two offenses for the price of one!

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (hvf9s)

307 I see in the sidebar that lasers are now going to have White Privilege.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (81UWZ)

308 245

This is what I call a "white folks fight back" moment and I think it completely justified.

I will guess that it's an artifact of Twitter that the appearance of one word in the title of a blog post has attracted so many new faces with such...interesting opinions.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (JtwS4)

*********
Mr. Bandersnatch, it looks like you took me out of context. I'm merely asking a question.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (H7qBA)

309 Well, here's a stupid fucking controversy.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (oVJmc)

310 Words and flags will bust my bags,
but Jihadis will never hurt me.

That made me snort like a ninny.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (jAuNn)

311 252 And 'f****t' isn't allowed any more.

Ferret?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (8ZskC)

Fillet?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (mx5oN)

312 The term is not itself racist such as the "n" word but it is a term used by racist to attack others, therefore those who use the word in a derogatory manner (not jokingly such as @nero) are most likely racist, if you look in their twitter timeline this will be confirmed.

Posted by: Court at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (xytVe)

313 They made the reader of a library book about fighting, and winning against the Klan, apologize.

FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (TW49l)

314 But if somebody uses it unknowingly (and trust me, the White Supremacists are easy to spot) I can't really chastise them too much for using an 11-day-old "racial slur".

That's certainly true, too.

Mostly I agree with those who are saying, "Wait, what? This is what we're arguing about?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (kff5f)

315 What, like it's hard? Come on, government employees are no match for a moronette armed with a slightly glitchy iPhone.
Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 01:55 PM (dbrg

----

But.... how do we know you're Jenny.

How do we know you're not Bob from the NSA posting from Jenny's Phone and Jennys not on the basement getting waterboarded and toenails pulled out. Hmmmmm?????

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (8XRCm)

316 281
Ok, War of Northern Aggression. Discuss

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (sgrzZ)

thank you for using the proper name for it.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (0O7c5)

317 A cuckold is a man whose wife has been doing the nasty with other men. I am aware of no race requirement. Generally, I think too many words are banned. I would prefer to see almost all, including the N word, reintroduced into society. When we let controls our language, they control our thoughts. I submit that the only reason President False Prophet hasn't been impeached is that everybody is too afraid of being called a racist to criticize him. We're afraid to use a word and prefer to see civilization crumble.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (XUKZU)

318 Sort of like then Niggardly was used correctly, and the user had to apologize...
--------------------

Not apologize, was fired.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (9mTYi)

319 What Sanderson series do you recommend reading first? His novels are like phone books, I have no clue where to start but know it will be an investment. But a good one, everyone I know that's read him loves him.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 01:51 PM (hvf9s)

The Mistborn series is the first introduction I had. I liked it a lot.

A couple things amaze me about Sanderson. The incredible amount of work he puts out. I mean, he's like the anti-GRRM. And the other is that pretty much all of his books involve some sort of magic in the culture. And it's different in each series. He completely abandons the ideas from his previous books and world builds from scratch every..single..time.

Very impressive.

And yeah, the writing from Emperor's Edge can be a bit clunky at times, but like I said, the book is more character driven than anything and I really liked the characters.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (gW5Vg)

320 So this is a twitface thing? Twitter is cable access for comedians and mental cases.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (evdj2)

321 You don't like being called out as a "cuckservative." And your solution to hearing a truth expressed that you don't like is just, coincidentally, exactly the same as every leftist/progressive/Stalinist for the last 70 years.

Scream RACISM!

So you're using your White Privilege to play the race card and culturally appropriate the other side's slurs against nominal friends.

Who could see betrayal and disloyalty in that? He said sarcastically.

Posted by: baldur5 at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (dAVjn)

322 309 Well, here's a stupid fucking controversy.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (oVJmc)

You mean a stupid cucking controversy, amiright?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (mx5oN)

323 Lotta new names on this thread. Just sayin'.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (b65cm)

324 Okay, so the term ist verboten. C***servatives is dead.
Yet the phenomenon of "conservatives" who sell themselves to the highest bidder still exists. They sell themselves and their honor for a multitude of reasons but the result is always the same. They grease the wheels of the powers that be to profit themselves and sell out the people who gave them their votes. Free market to them means they may sell themselves without cost. They shiv those who stand tall and believe their stature improves as the wounded double over in pain.
So what term best describes these faux conservatives? What should be placed in front of servatives? What term best indicates a betrayal so foul?

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (uPxUo)

325 People doing this stuff are all younger, its the next generation, not yours. They are white people who have grown up with our institutions all calling them racist and evil because of their heritage not their actions, so calling them racist is ineffective and makes you look weak. The baby boomer and gen x ideas about race and accusations of racism are old hat and outmoded. Not to say these guys are right but put yourselves in their shoes to understand where they are coming from before offering judgment.

Posted by: Ben H at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (gJEsZ)

326 White lasers will enable us to reach the stars.

Because they work?

(was that.....)

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (TW49l)

327 @285 right on target. Cuckold in is original former refers to being tricked into raising the offspring of another.

Gabe, are you still referring to all Trump supporters as neo-Nazis?

Posted by: Agent J at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (R5dBL)

328 Searcy is a huge pussy. He flipped out on me (on FB) over a basketball game. Literally blocked me because I critiqued his beloved Tar Heels. Toolbag.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (2cS/G)

329 If I can't say "fuckit," well, ...

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (wfznB)

330 Also, they seem to be saying racists are the only ones who have shortened the word ...

Posted by: Lea at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM
________

The word was actually shortened a second time, and it totally has a racial element. "Cu" has come to mean all non-whites and has quickly evolved to denote only copper-skinned people. Because of the speed of social media, this new word has begun to be used as a racist symbol for copper itself.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (k9a6m)

331 Your blog post has some well-reasoned arguments, but micro-blogging will help perpetuate my stupid point repeatedly .

Posted by: Birther at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (bpemY)

332 CuckHold is a somewhat high-level dungeon that my tribe of 700+ kobolds have set various traps in that are designed to hold you bent over at the waist, at which point.... bunga bunga

Posted by: Kobold at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (3ZtZW)

333 GM Your post makes no sense, why would a racist attack a non racist as a conservative. Cuckcracker I could see cuckservative is BS.

This screams false flag but you want to believe it.

Posted by: brainpimp at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (zosQc)

334 dogwhistles!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (JO9+V)

335 For real fun, please visit soopermexican's site and read the comments and how cuck and cuckservative are being used.nasty stuff.

Look, I think Gabe is blowing things way, way out of proportion, but we're fools if we think there are no virulent, ugly, racists and anti-semites in the conservative movement. The main thing is to drown their words out.

Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (5ar9k)

336 I don't use the word "cuckservative" and I don't give a shit what it means.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (YFw5T)

337 Back to the vandalism analogy. Telling me you use spraypaint to refinish your deck chairs doesn't comfort me while i'm scrubbing "CUCKSERVATIVE!!" of the front of my house.

Posted by: coondawg68 at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (xdOnn)

PRO TIP: The nic kind of detracts from an otherwise stirring defense of hypersensitivity and contrived outrage.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (8ZskC)

338 "Posted by: coondawg68 at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (xdOnn)"

If your definitions of racist and anti-semitic are anywhere nearly as broad as Erickson's then I can't say I have much sympathy. Particularly in light of the racial slur in your username. As for comforting you, what the fuck kinda pussy are you. Waah, someone said something racist to me on the Internet! This is probably why you have cuckservative spray painted on your house in the first place. Are you even a grown man? Who the fuck needs to be comforted because someone said something mean to them on the Internet? Talk about arrested development.

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (WvGsS)

339 So this is a twitface thing? Twitter is cable access for comedians and mental cases.

heh

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (jAuNn)

340 328
Searcy is a huge pussy. He flipped out on me (on FB) over a basketball
game. Literally blocked me because I critiqued his beloved Tar Heels.
Toolbag.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 01:59 PM (2cS/G)
some people take their sports wayyyyyyyy toooooo seriously....btw, i'll cut you if ever say anything about my SF Giants.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (0O7c5)

341
Would you rather be a cuckholder or a cockholder??

Discuss.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (8XRCm)

342 Look, I think Gabe is blowing things way, way out of proportion, but we're fools if we think there are no virulent, ugly, racists and anti-semites in the conservative movement. The main thing is to drown their words out.

As there is in the "Progressive" movement...

Posted by: donna at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (hUdMz)

343 They're fighting words. They are intended to start a fight. And some people have been taking the bait.

Why is that my problem? I didn't do that.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (94iKh)

344 but we're fools if we think there are no virulent, ugly, racists and anti-semites in the conservative movement.

For some values of "conservative".

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (evdj2)

345 I'm gonna go on record saying I just don't give a fig about this. Seems like a circular firing squad type distraction when there are legitimate issues to debate.
See ya

Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

346 "All pipe fitting references must be gender neutral!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 01:49 PM (9mTYi)

*IEEE, quietly hiding their stacks of communications bus specifications containing master/slave references.*

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (Vf5rR)

347 285 "Cuck", a derivative of "cuckhold" has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Gabe is full of shit on this.

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (P/xrJ)

Alright, if nothing else, this should definitively prove that Gabe and Ace are right.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (gW5Vg)

348 That cuckold lives in bliss
Who, certain of his fate, loves not his wronger;
But O, what damned minutes tells he o'er
Who dotes, yet doubts, suspects, yet strongly loves!

(The Tragedy of Othello, Moor of Venice)

William Shakespeare, fucking racist.

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (P/xrJ)

349 We have reached a peak cultural/political schism. Time to retreat to a world full of only porn and beer.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (NpXoL)

350 Ok, War of Northern Aggression. Discuss Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 01:53 PM (sgrzZ)

While discussing longbows vs crossbows? Get all the debates out in one long, drawn out post, once and for all, hah.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (hvf9s)

351 "The main thing is to drown their words out.

Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 29, 2015 02:00 PM (5ar9k)"

Barack Obama, is that you?

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (WvGsS)

352 Really saddened by some of the people at Breitbart.

Posted by: Osoloco at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (9kGho)

353
Executive Summary

Conservatives who call out their nominal spokesmen who do little but parrot the GOP line are racist hillbillies.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (kdS6q)

354 No Gabe, this is the problem:

"all of a sudden so many suspicions of what's behind the anti-immigration push are suddenly confirmed."

The problem is that you smeared all the people behind the "anti-immigration push" as you describe it, and by proxy all of Trump's supporters, as racists, nativists, white supremacists, etc. That meme was picked up by Allahpundit and Taylor Mallard over at Hot Air. That's what leftists do: smear all conservatives who are opposed to welfare schemes or affirmative action as racists, because David Duke and his ilk hold the same positions. It's disgusting, and you should know better. You also know what you did, and the proper thing to do is apologize, rather than double down. By the way, given Bernie Sanders' recent comments about immigration to a shocked Ezra Klein, should we be branding him a racist now?

Posted by: Joseph K at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (83IN3)

355 Twitter. A tempest in a teapot, full of ~~sound~~ 140 characters and fury, that signify nothing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (JO9+V)

356 257
What about weasels?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2015 01:50 PM (8ZskC)

They are also a form of weasel.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (Vf5rR)

357 It's a goddam word. I don't care what others call me, or wherefrom their limited vocabulary came from.

I do appreciate how someone offers to f--k you up the rear, whilst simultaneously exclaiming "NOT GAY!"

Uh yeah, whatev's, dude.

Posted by: West at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (1Rgee)

358
"cuckservative"
I know a tar baby when I see one, and I'm not touching it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (9mTYi)

359 >>>Conservatives have better words; why adopt trolls' words.

Posted by: Lael at July 29, 2015 01:56 PM (yrklk)>>>

I have never and will never use the term against a person, but that doesn't mean that I will to sit idly by and watch Orwellian SJWs tell us what words we are and are not allowed to use and describe any term that is not flattering to them as racist.

Posted by: gm at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (aR++5)

360 You guys know that Ace tossed up a Nood, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (VPLuQ)

361 Sorry, dude. You are simply wrong.

"Cuckold" is simply a man with an unfaithful wife. It's in flipping Shakespeare. In fact, it's all over Shakespeare. Cuckolds gain horns.

Gabe has no idea what he's talking about. But, it bothers him, so it must be racist. That's idiotic. That's what dumb liberals do. Read Milo Yiannopoulos and learn something.

OR if you're going to be this dull and ignorant, please just go to Little Green Footballs.

Posted by: Keith Eppich at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (VYryW)

362 "a half-breed mongrel"

Incidentally, it was "subhuman mongrel" and the argument was over the definition of "mongrel."

"Half-breed" is unquestionably racist, but what he *actually* said was much more nebulous to those of us who grew up thinking mongrels were merely stray dogs.

But yeah! Misquote and then take another shot at a months-dead topic! That helped this right along!

Posted by: grognard at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (/29Nl)

363 This is Through the Looking Glass Humpty Dumpty "When I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean" stupidity and people seem to be flipping their shit over it. So what if some dickheads on the Internet make up some word nobody ever heard before to use as a slur? Are you ten years old? Jesus, people, get a fucking grip.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (mx5oN)

364 I dunno. The trolls are clearly racists, but I do generally agree with Milo's article.

Posted by: Zakn at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (d2pTe)

365 Look how is this different than warning a potentially unaware Tea Partier of the derogatory nature of "teabagger"?

Sure, teabag isn't a harmful word. It has a long innocuous history.

But teabagger? Was that commonly used by tea aficionados to describe their habbits, or pretty much created as an description/insult based on a certain sex act? So would advise a Tea Partier to use that term lightly? Sure you can use it and "own it" to prove it won't be used to hurt you... but would you advise anyone to use it in any and all occasions?

Same with this. Sure, cuckold is fine. But if "cuckservative" was created with a specific intent, would you encourage anyone to use that lightly as well?

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (w9WoH)

366 "cuckservative"

I know a tar baby when I see one, and I'm not touching it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 02:02 PM (9mTYi)

omg.....i'm laughing.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (0O7c5)

367 "Where da white women at?"

William Shakespeare

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (P/xrJ)

368 if you look in their twitter timeline this will be confirmed.

Posted by: Court at July 29, 2015 01:57 PM (xytVe)

Ahhhh.... so Twitter, and its users, are now the determiners of meaning....

good to know...

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (qh617)

369 292 That may be true. For those of us not on Twitter, who has heard the term?

I've only seen it here, on these posts about Twitter bitch fights. Gabe posts Twitter links on the post, and surprise, surprise, his Twitter enemies follow him here.

I'd love to never see another post about a Twitter (and only Twitter) "controversy".

But, not my blog. *shrugs*

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (JoIcn)

370 Was on RS McCain's blog yesterday. There was a swarm of people using the cuckservative term, and they clearly were of the Stormfront mold. Sure, I'm sure people use it who have no knowledge of the origins of the word cuckold, and plenty of them don't have racist intent, but it sure as hell seems it's just a way for a lot of frustrated neo-Nazis to get their rocks off.

Posted by: Paul at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (MO6az)

371 You guys know that Ace tossed up a Nood, right?
Posted by: Village
-------

Eech. Another hairball?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (9mTYi)

372 Funny, I thought the word, cuckold was a general word describing a certain type of man regardless of race but then how could the leftist moles get their payoff without bastardizing the word to mean hate speech and smearing Trump supporters.

The left and the leftist moles never miss an opportunity to Alinsky and the girly men on our side never fail to cave into it.

As a woman, I find the term completely appropriate to ball-less men of the right. There seem to be an endless supply of them in the GOPe.

That's another reason Trump is doing so well with women in polling. You know he's not going to be like Michael Dukakis.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (w9GWK)

373 I don't think it's a circular firing squad, I think it's Gabe and Co. standing in the middle of the group and twirling madly in circles while firing rounds. Whoever gets hit isn't important, because everyone's eyes are on the shooter, and that's the real goal.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (2cS/G)

374 While discussing longbows vs crossbows? Get all the debates out in one long, drawn out post, once and for all, hah.

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (hvf9s

Then we need to include Ginger v Mary Anne

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (sgrzZ)

375 Racist slur? Did you even look up the goddamn etymology of the word Gabe?

It dates to the mid-13c and is derived from the the French word for a Cuckoo bird combined with a derogatory German suffix. It refers to the Cuckoo bird's practice of leaving its eggs in the nests of other birds so that the other birds will mistakenly raise the Cuckoo's young. It is a commonly used term in evolutionary biology to refer to situation where an animal is tricked into expending resources raising another animals young. It is also used in legal terms to refer to a spouse who has been the victim of adultery.

It was never used by White Supremacists, but it is commonly used in porn to describe situations where a man willingly allows his wife to have sex with another man.

We are in a world where the race-mongers want to call everything "racists" and to have you, Gabe, give into that without proper research or thought is, quite frankly pathetic and weak.

No wonder your wife only does black guys.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (HqpV0)

376 It's one thing to police regular English words for bad usage. Now we're supposed to care about policing made-up words?

Posted by: Brewdog at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (ZgUuK)

377 364
I dunno. The trolls are clearly racists, but I do generally agree with Milo's article.

Posted by: Zakn at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (d2pTe)
milo vs gabe

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 02:04 PM (0O7c5)

378 Would you rather be a cuckholder or a cockholder??

Discuss.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (8XRCm)
**OMG we've taken on the vocabulary and language acrobatics of the left....Can I be Cis-Cuck-holder?? Bi-Cuck_holder? Trans-Cuck-Holder??
I'm scared.Hold me.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (NpXoL)

379 Ugh, we're going to have to hear about this with an amen chorus from the cobs on the podcast.

Lord Almighty, deliver me from the Twitter obsession of the commentariat.

For those who didn't see the Breitbart article (which wasn't linked because, I guess, it's white supremacist or something) it's here: http://tinyurl.com/o57mxpe

That being said, yes a bunch of bottom feeding troglodytes have latched onto the word because it allows them to feed into their hate of, well, everyone who's not them and giving Nazi salutes in the mirror. This seems like co-evolution, where a bunch of people latched onto a word mashup at the same time and meant two totally different things: people who felt that there were conservatives willing to live with an adulterous GOP congress, and racist asshats.

But the word literally didn't exist until like two weeks ago so I don't care and neither should anyone else.

Posted by: Austin in TX at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (F9Hpt)

380 /sock

Posted by: Bigby's Poking Finger at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (3ZtZW)

381 Lotta new names on this thread. Just sayin'.
Posted by: AmishDude

Always nice when the RNC summer interns can stop by for a chat.

Posted by: LDC at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (kdS6q)

382 Don't want to be called racist?

Don't use racist terms or associate with those who do.

Don't defend people using racist terms.

Don't complain that some people are using racist terms and why can't you, too?

Don't get into hair-splitting, pedantic arguments about the etymology of racist terms.

This shit isn't really that hard.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (ljZD2)

383
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Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (hvf9s)

384
Mr. Malor,
Do us all a favor, take 2 hours and read the Canterbury Tales.
Cuckhold.
Racism is not the Sun around which all words and meaningsorbit.
Now some times racists use the same dirtywords that I do. But that does not mean I am a racist because I use dirty words, or does it??

Posted by: simplemind at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (5vV+V)

385 In any case, this destroyed a lot of social network links. But don't despair, distributed social networks are resilient to breaking a few links.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (94iKh)

386 That said I agree with Milo lotsoflettersinhislast name that the term itself is a funny one to use against a certain breed of right-winger.

Posted by: Paul at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (MO6az)

387 This whole 'controversy' is really just about calling Trump supporters racist, right?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (oVJmc)

388 > No Gabe, this is the problem:

Yeah, no fucking kidding. Pardon the rest of us if we don't accept as gospel the lecturing of how 'cuckservative' is totally racist and unacceptable and must be dropped immediately... by cuckservatives.

This whole 'the term is racist, anyone who uses it is racist' schtick is like the blog version of failure theatre. An act put on supposedly for the benefit of conservatives, while the actual intent is precisely the opposite.

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (DUynq)

389 Okay. The stupid, brand new word "cuckservative" was invented by white supremacists to belittle those of us who aren't racist. So it's their word. They can have it.

What's the big deal?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (cN9Sk)

390 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (gW5Vg)

Having considered the various histories of words (Zombie's post is a great primer) it does seem that "cuckold" and "cuck" have divergent meanings sometime in the last 20-30 years.

Language is fluid like that.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 29, 2015 02:06 PM (tM4uk)

391 Don't get into hair-splitting, pedantic arguments about the etymology of racist terms.

Are you fucking brain damaged? Cuckold is not a racist term.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 02:07 PM (evdj2)

392 Same with this. Sure, cuckold is fine. But if "cuckservative" was created with a specific intent, would you encourage anyone to use that lightly as well?

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at July 29, 2015 02:03 PM (w9WoH)

Yet the Left took Tea Bagger, and through usage in the MSM, made it mean something else to the majority of people.

Most don't even really see Teabagger as an insult... even though it ORIGINALLY was used as an insult when used for the TEA Party...

To most its like the term Birther.... dismissive, but not grotesquely insulting.

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 29, 2015 02:08 PM (qh617)

393
Kinley Ardal, that's a lot of gibberish you posted.
I see with my own eyes on Twitter and other places on the web that racists/anti-semites are using the word to smear Conservatives who don't share their race/Jew hate.
Peddle your BS elsewhere. I'm not buying.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 29, 2015 02:08 PM (LWWrf)

394 Quite frankly I think a lot of people were happy a bunch of racists went nuts on Twitter so that they can now brand any support of trump or really any opposition to amnesty as racist. Because that is what they love to do. Oh you want the border secured and our laws enforced and don't want millions of people that broke it to get a free ride? You clearly hate brown people and are a racist.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 29, 2015 02:08 PM (z/Ubi)

395 When the fetishists have won, we're all DOOMed!

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 02:08 PM (UzPAd)

396 Can we still use the term "p***y"?

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:09 PM (94iKh)

397 Pardon the rest of us if we don't accept as gospel the lecturing of how 'cuckservative' is totally racist and unacceptable and must be dropped immediately...

It's like a fucking parody of an AoSHQ meme, which is also racist.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 02:09 PM (evdj2)

398 @351

Haha. And there you show your lack of understanding. A conservative, i.e. not Barack Obama, does not try to ban speech he finds offensive. However, if he fears it will cause political damage to his cause, he will for sure drown out that offensive speech with speech of his own. Free speech is both a boon and a cure to its own ills.

Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 29, 2015 02:09 PM (5ar9k)

399 Really saddened by some of the people at Breitbart. Posted by: Osoloco at July 29, 2015 02:01 PM (9kGho)

The commenters, contributors or editors? The comments over there are truly bizarro world most of the time. Contributors very in quality, right now is on a low ebb for me. Most of the editors I can tolerate.

Nolte I adore, as always. He's doing a list of the greatest movies at BH, yay! Miss his movie reviews from his dirty harry days, wish he could do more but there is that whole editor job thing. *sighs*

Posted by: LizLem at July 29, 2015 02:10 PM (hvf9s)

400 So if you ever want to see the REAL etymology of the word cuckservative go to Vox Day: http://tinyurl.com/ovgfbyvThink 4chan, not white supremacist

Posted by: MAx at July 29, 2015 02:10 PM (LAliD)

401 Can't wait to see the next neologism that gets the nattering ninnies of the Word Police all hot and bothered. In fact, that might be a little side project, see how many fake words I can get these knee-jerk censors to declare "racist" in a week. Might have to fire up the old Twitter account to make it work, that's where all the suckers are.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 02:10 PM (2cS/G)

402 "It was never used by White Supremacists, but it is commonly used in porn to describe situations where a man willingly allows his wife to have sex with another man."

and often in the porn...its a black guy with a white wife. And the white wife likes the black guy more...you get the idea.

cuckold is not a racist term, but you can make a racist analogy out of it, which is what the white supremacists are doing:

A man who allows another man to use his wife is a cuckold.

A race who allows another race to suceed is a "cuckservative"

Is this really so hard?

Note, its also a great analogy for the Establishment GOP...

A conservative who allows/assists liberals to run the government.

and I'd love to be able to keep using it like that, but the white supremacist guys already messed that up.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (UBBWX)

403 Quite frankly I think a lot of people were happy a bunch of racists went
nuts on Twitter so that they can now brand any support of trump or
really any opposition to amnesty as racist.

I think that is the entire motivation for this 'controversy.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (oVJmc)

404 So let's take Gabe's point for a test drive, and somebody explain to me why blacks can go all "Hey my N*gger* on each other, when the KKK has made the term inherently racist?

I have the same problem with the architectural guidelines that we create and enforce in our Community, which is on the National Register of Historic Places.;

Some dumbs come up and says "I think this would be a cool thing to move forward progressively, and embrace forwardness".

I respond with "Let's see what the Secretary of the Interiors Guidelines for the Treatment of Historic Properties recommends, shall we.

Sort of like dictionaries.

Not sort of like Humpty Dumpty.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (VPLuQ)

405 The right is fracturing badly. Most of you can't see it yet but this let it burn attitude is going to lead to some of the more sinister aspects of humanity being unleashed. They've been contained for some time now but the darkness is coming. When the war comes people won't be quoting the Federalist Papers, they'll be reverting to savagery against the perceived enemy (eGOP, Democrats, msm etc.), a more tribalist future is approaching whether you want it or not. I'm ready for let it burn but I'm not looking forward to traveling back into the violence of history.

Posted by: Irish Mike at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (xvj3x)

406 I know I can say effeminate and womanly. Is it wrong for me to impugn another's masculinity?

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (94iKh)

407 common knowledge and common sense have been lost......

-
That's OK. I prefer carnal knowledge anyway.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 02:11 PM (XUKZU)

408 362 "a half-breed mongrel"

Incidentally, it was "subhuman mongrel" and the argument was over the definition of "mongrel."

"Half-breed" is unquestionably racist, but what he *actually* said was much more nebulous to those of us who grew up thinking mongrels were merely stray dogs.

But yeah! Misquote and then take another shot at a months-dead topic! That helped this right along!

----

I sincerely apologize for misremembering which definitely racist slur preceded "mongrel".

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 02:12 PM (dbrg8)

409 I, too, find this whole cuckservative thing a load of hooey.

As a fine Hispanic American via miscegenation when my Grandfather hopped off the Tortilla Truck straight from Mexico and took a cute, little white woman to wed-

I gave all of you cuckservatives the opportunity to abase yourselves and recognize my superior Hispanic status by getting together a collection-

and buying me a Lamborghini Veneno.

What. The. Hell. Cuckservatives?

My Lambo was supposed to be delivered this Tuesday.

I'm beginning to think this whole cuckservative thing is not a thang at all.

It's a hoax.

Really, y'all have let me down.

And I've been miscegenatin' quite a bit.myself. Actually. A. Lot.

So, I'm gonna give you guys one more chance to be all cuckservative and stuff and-

buy me the gol'durn Lamborghini Veneno.

Otherwise, well, I'm just gonna have to conclude that this was some kind of terrible hoax or false flag operation.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 29, 2015 02:13 PM (0cMkb)

410 "Quite frankly I think a lot of people were happy a bunch of racists went nuts on Twitter so that they can now brand any support of trump or really any opposition to amnesty as racist. Because that is what they love to do. Oh you want the border secured and our laws enforced and don't want millions of people that broke it to get a free ride? You clearly hate brown people and are a racist."

Yes. The racists are also happy because they can finally let their freak flag fly under cover of Trump.

Look, this just means that if you like Trumps message on immigration, you need to disown these people.

Trumps already done that.

Trump has already said he wants some method to allow the good illegals to stay. He's supporting amnesty.

But he would build the wall, and maybe we believe him.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:13 PM (UBBWX)

411 Cuckold is a term that has been around for centuries and as has been mentioned before here refers to a man whose wife commits cheats on him with another man. It doesn't necessarily have a racial component (as its use in the Canterbury Tales would seem to show) though there is a subgenre of present day cuckolding where this is desired.

Honestly, (and I say this as a black man) I have no problem with the use of the term "cuckservative" and I think if you use the original or even the modern day definition of cuckold, it is an apt term to describe the relationship between the conservative base (especially those Do or die Team GOP types) and the Republican leadership class. There is a certain element of conservative media and activists who will support the Republican party no matter how often they get screwed over.

Posted by: Papadoc19 at July 29, 2015 02:14 PM (pP5AJ)

412 "Yesterday, in response to the whitewashing of the word "cuckservative" by the website abusing the good name of Andrew Breitbart, I tweeted about the racist origins and usage of the term "cuck.""

Did Gabe even read the Breitbart article in question? It's both terrific and accurate and, best of all, written by a guy who is willing to admit that he enjoys being sodomized by blacks.

Jesus, Gabe, if your schtick is being an openly gay conservative, roll with it.

Posted by: Joseph K at July 29, 2015 02:14 PM (83IN3)

413 False flag to damage social capital.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:14 PM (94iKh)

414 The educated class worry me.

Here we have two guys over at "Outside the Beltway" who have Ph.D's in Political Science who never heard of Saul Alinski.

Fucking Doctorates. These guys are Professors of Political Science.

Now, you've got Gabe. Supposedly heavily educated but apparently never having read any of the classics which would easily have ingrained on him the term "cuckold" from the Middle Ages on.

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at July 29, 2015 02:15 PM (P/xrJ)

415 My Lord. I have never seen so much hot air expended over a term that 99.9% of Conservatives never knew existed before Gabe went off on his rant.

Get a grip.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 29, 2015 02:15 PM (1aNPq)

416 354 No Gabe, this is the problem:

When I see a so-called Conservative like Gabe spend so much time and energy attacking HIS OWN SIDE, especially with liberal tactics, I realize what the term "cuckservative" really means. And it's got nothing to do with racism, but with those who fold and stab their allies in the back time after time.

Posted by: Ostar at July 29, 2015 02:15 PM (gc83Y)

417 The smugness is thick in here.

Posted by: The Spelling Police at July 29, 2015 02:15 PM (F9l4e)

418 288
Words and flags will bust my bags,

but Jihadis will never hurt me.

Posted by: dogfish at July 29, 2015 01:54 PM (jWtyG)

Well done.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 29, 2015 02:16 PM (Vf5rR)

419 Fiddlesticks and teakettles; the world has gone mad....

Posted by: poor wretch counting the naughty words for the ad space buyers at July 29, 2015 02:16 PM (Spluw)

420 325) People doing this stuff are all younger, its the next generation, not yours. They are white people who have grown up with our institutions all calling them racist and evil because of their heritage not their actions, so calling them racist is ineffective and makes you look weak. The baby boomer and gen x ideas about race and accusations of racism are old hat and outmoded. Not to say these guys are right but put yourselves in their shoes to understand where they are coming from before offering judgment.

-Posted by: Ben H at July 29, 2015 01:58 PM (gJEsZ)

*************
Certainly a fair consideration.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 29, 2015 02:17 PM (H7qBA)

421 Don't get into hair-splitting, pedantic arguments about the etymology of racist terms.

This shit isn't really that hard.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at July 29, 2015 02:05 PM (ljZD2)

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Thats all fine and dandy until somebody tries to get you FIRED form your job for using the word "niggardly" . . . or insisting that PB&Y sammiches are racist..... or a fucking made up word like "macaca" is deemed racist and knocks you out of an election.

Then.... yes.... it is THAT hard.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 29, 2015 02:17 PM (8XRCm)

422 "What's the big deal?"

The big deal is that this is just more of the word fascists at work. Hate speech councils. Ask Mark Steyn about his Canadian travails.

They want to control your language. That is their power over you. It's never ending. How can any be so clueless about it?

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (w9GWK)

423 Google image search cuckservative. First page of images...chose these 3.

http://tinyurl.com/qczmqpx

http://tinyurl.com/qx53xo7

http://tinyurl.com/nsz8hnc

So, anyone here want to say these are not racist?

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (UBBWX)

424
Yes. The racists are also happy because they can finally let their freak flag fly under cover of Trump.

Look, this just means that if you like Trumps message on immigration, you need to disown these people.

Trumps already done that.

Trump has already said he wants some method to allow the good illegals to stay. He's supporting amnesty.

But he would build the wall, and maybe we believe him.

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I don't own them to begin with. Dipshit racists are going to dipshit racist. I have a problem when people are going to try to use what they say to shut down all legitimate opposition to illegal immigration.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (z/Ubi)

425 382--trumpetdaddy

"Don't get into hair-splitting, pedantic arguments about the etymology of racist terms."

Unless you think that Cuckoo birds are negroid, then it is not racist.

Perhaps your perception of the word is colored* by the fact that you are only familiar with the word is from watching interracial porn?

("perception is colored by" is a common phrase and has nothing to do with race either, though I suppose you will argue differently.......because you are little, petty, misanthropic, sub-intellectual shit. I really fucking hate people like you and I am pretty sure the people who know you in really life hate you as well.)

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (HqpV0)

426 So the term "cuckservative" is racist and anyone who uses it too.

Got it.

Whats for lunch?

gopE/dopE is serving shit sandwiches again. Got yours yet?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (1aNPq)

427 If your going going jump into inanity of a hashtag war,
at least back up your points with an actual reference or two - maybe an
encyclopedia or a dictionary. When don't back your points, you appear to be reaching into thin air.

Posted by: Wendy at July 29, 2015 02:18 PM (bpemY)

428 There is a certain element of conservative media and activists who will support the Republican party no matter how often they get screwed over.

Posted by: Papadoc19 at July 29, 2015 02:14 PM (pP5AJ)

Well said....

I think of it as 'battered wife syndrome'....

The one where she has a violent husband, who abuses her, yet she constantly defends him....

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 29, 2015 02:19 PM (qh617)

429 note the Kevin Williamson one is supporting Sweden because its white and socialist while hating Israel.

Hint: white supremacists often are not conservatives who like the free market...they want the state to help white people - they are not conservatives.

If you want to be an ally to these guys you will find this out...they want Sweden without the immigrants.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:20 PM (UBBWX)

430 "Ace of S-Words HQ""

Ace of Swords? I call dibs on sabres!

Posted by: Armando at July 29, 2015 02:20 PM (FwRqg)

431 Claymore, I meant claymore.

Posted by: Armando at July 29, 2015 02:21 PM (FwRqg)

432 "I don't own them to begin with. Dipshit racists are going to dipshit racist. I have a problem when people are going to try to use what they say to shut down all legitimate opposition to illegal immigration."

Yes, this is a major problem. Trump has been fantastic at forcing this point to the media.

I'm just saying that you will be tarred with the racists. Sorry, but that's how the Tea Party got tarred, too. One loony tunes with a poster and the media will push.

Trump's good though - maybe he can cut through that.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:22 PM (UBBWX)

433 So, we're supposed to be worried that some disgusting group is using this term?

As if we have control over other human beings?
As if gay groups dont mind the teabagger crap being heaved around?
As if gay groups don't mind the word 'gay' being co-opted?
As if gabe the living lawyer joke doesn't play the race card? Check out his tweets about racism and immigration

So we're supposed to take advice from him, on something he scraped off of one of the urinals of the Internet?

Posted by: poor wretch counting the naughty words for the ad space buyers at July 29, 2015 02:24 PM (Spluw)

434 "People doing this stuff are all younger, its the next generation, not yours. They are white people who have grown up with our institutions all calling them racist and evil because of their heritage not their actions, so calling them racist is ineffective and makes you look weak. The baby boomer and gen x ideas about race and accusations of racism are old hat and outmoded. Not to say these guys are right but put yourselves in their shoes to understand where they are coming from before offering judgment. "

The person I know who is pushing cuckservative on Facebook is a 46 year old white guy who supports Jim Webb, and likes Putin and Assad.

There is a whole weird political movement out there that will be glued onto conservatives/libertarians unless we are careful.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:24 PM (UBBWX)

435 I'm sorry - who told Gabe people care what he thinks?

Posted by: YourMomKeepsTexting at July 29, 2015 02:24 PM (39GqQ)

436 The sudden appearance of "cuckservative" via twitter attacks looks a lot like Axelturfing to me.

As we've seen time after time, a large number of supposed racial or sexist incidents are in fact generated and created by SJWs themselves.

Anybody can post anything on the interwebs at any time and claim to be anybody.

People getting their panties in a wad over stuff of questionable provenance -

is kind of weird.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 29, 2015 02:25 PM (0cMkb)

437 "So we're supposed to take advice from him, on something he scraped off of one of the urinals of the Internet?"

Yes. If he's right.

But you seem very, very focused on him being gay.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 02:25 PM (UBBWX)

438 I'm wondering why "cuckservative" became a thing at all if it's not racial. The racism explanation makes sense, the explanation that a bunch of people decided to start randomly saying essentially "Your wives are all sluts, you faux conservatives" is a) really random and b) not really defensible either

^^^^^

Late to the thread as always, but no, I don't think this was the obvious meaning at all. When I first saw the term I assumed it meant the "conservatives" in question were pussies, like the douches in Congress who fall all over themselves to placate the sensibilities of left and the media. I assumed that because I knew what the word cuckold actually means and have never seen it used in a racist way.

I had no clue the first half of that word had been coopted by the white power douches and wouldn't have known it had Ace not posted about it the other day, because that's not the obvious or most apparent meaning of the word, according to its linguistic descent from the term cuckold.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at July 29, 2015 02:26 PM (KkVB6)

439 The whole "cuckservative" thing seems like a gold-plated example of how, if responsible authorities refuse to address people's legitimate concerns, people will simply turn to unapproved methods for expressing their grievances.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at July 29, 2015 02:26 PM (R1mDg)

440 The whole "cuckservative" thing seems like a gold-plated example of how, if responsible authorities refuse to address people's legitimate concerns, people will simply turn to unapproved methods for expressing their grievances.

^^^^^

Seems odd that they'd target folks like Ace of Spades and RS McCain, though. These aren't folks who are exactly known for squashing discussion of legitimate concerns.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at July 29, 2015 02:28 PM (R1mDg)

441 The sudden appearance of "cuckservative" via twitter attacks looks a lot like Axelturfing to me.

Yep. Don't understand the wet panties about a fragile fishing term.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 29, 2015 02:29 PM (MIKMs)

442 Late to the thread as always, but no, I don't think this was the obvious meaning at all. When I first saw the term I assumed it meant the "conservatives" in question were pussies, like the douches in Congress who fall all over themselves to placate the sensibilities of left and the media. I assumed that because I knew what the word cuckold actually means and have never seen it used in a racist way.

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I knew what the word meant, too, and I don't see "man whose wife committed adultery" as a pussy, though. I dunno. It's also by itself a really weird way to insult someone's politics

Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 02:30 PM (dbrg8)

443 "So we're supposed to take advice from him, on something he scraped off of one of the urinals of the Internet?" Yes. If he's right. But you seem very, very focused on him being gay.
Posted by: Harun

I seem to be very, very focused on him pretending to be a considerate conservative writer and then watching him time and again opting for the, 'yay, gay cause du jour'.

If you had seen him embarass himself cheering on a SCOTUS power grab for gay marriage one day, and then talk out the other side of his face about the same SCOTUS doing the exact same thing about obamacare and subsidies, you might know that.

Posted by: poor wretch counting the naughty words for the ad space buyers at July 29, 2015 02:30 PM (Spluw)

444 People getting their panties in a wad over stuff of questionable provenance -

is kind of weird.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 29, 2015 02:25 PM (0cMkb)

But...but...but.....

You're right. It is wierd.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 29, 2015 02:30 PM (1aNPq)

445 "Haha. And there you show your lack of understanding. A conservative, i.e. not Barack Obama, does not try to ban speech he finds offensive. However, if he fears it will cause political damage to his cause, he will for sure drown out that offensive speech with speech of his own. Free speech is both a boon and a cure to its own ills.

Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 29, 2015 02:09 PM (5ar9k)"

Drowning out speech is no better than banning it via the state. In both cases the speech police wants to avoid debating issues and win on something other than its merits. Rarely is it a Machiavellian plot like the speech police claims, usually it's just intellectual insecurity, like in your case or Barack Obama's case.

As for political damage, lol. Try paying attention to reality once in a while. The left does not try to drown out their extremists. They drown out right wing extremists, then label right wing moderates as extremists. Not to be outdone, cuckservatives also drown out right wing extremists, then label right wing moderates as extremists (IE: Trump is a nativist!!!!). Thus the Overton window moves ever in their favor.

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2015 02:30 PM (WvGsS)

446 So we're supposed to take advice from him, on something he scraped off of one of the urinals of the Internet?"
Yes. If he's right
Posted by: Harun

We shouldn't stop or start using words because he said so. Or because you said so. Or because I said so.

We should or should not use a word based upon their appropriate common meaning.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 29, 2015 02:33 PM (Spluw)

447 What's up with Nolte?

Posted by: grandmalcaesar at July 29, 2015 02:35 PM (Cirob)

448 "Seems odd that they'd target folks like Ace of Spades and RS McCain, though. These aren't folks who are exactly known for squashing discussion of legitimate concerns.
Posted by: Ex-liberal at July 29, 2015 02:28 PM (R1mDg)"

I asked RS McCain a question once and he blocked me, and he blocked me because he couldn't answer it and knew I nailed him. So while you may be right about Ace, McCain is a complete establishment style pussy.

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2015 02:36 PM (WvGsS)

449
Its a squirrel.
Your supposed to chase it and waste time.
Watch the Pixarmovie "Up". The dogs in the movie (villain's henchanimals (?)were always distracted at key moments by someone yelling "squirrel".
Gabe is just trying to keep the meter running while Ace is away.
Gabe I wasn't calling you names when I wrote out the term "cuckhold" in my post above. The term being used "cuckold" is spelled in the old stories "cuckhold". Because the husband was left holding his cuck. Cuck isn't a racial term per se, it is therefore your argument that cuckservative is racist bybeing trafficked by racists. Fine. Its a loser's word anyway.
Cuckservative is a gross term along the line of teabagger. It does not speak well of people who use it. You need not conjure racism to demonstrate that point. It is not something I would want to call a Rino, when there are much better epithets like crapweasels etc.

Posted by: simplemind at July 29, 2015 02:36 PM (5vV+V)

450 Color blind conservatives are the new anti-communists.

Posted by: bjk at July 29, 2015 02:37 PM (x2rNW)

451 http://tinyurl.com/qczmqpx

So, anyone here want to say these are not racist?

That particular one? Nationalist but not racist.

Not wanting the US to become Mexico by importing their immigration law-ignoring underclass is hardly racist.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 02:37 PM (3edTg)

452 words....what are they good for? absolutely nothing.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 02:39 PM (0O7c5)

453 >> It's also by itself a really weird way to insult someone's politics.

It is an attack on their person. It is saying they have weak knees.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:40 PM (94iKh)

454 I don't use this term, and I haven't used it. I don't care if it's inherently racist, or has become racist by association. I don't use it because it's inherently stupid, and an abominable misuse of English.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2015 02:41 PM (IaP9F)

455 There are crazies on Twitter? Oh my!

Posted by: Sulu at July 29, 2015 02:41 PM (1M0+8)

456 >> I don't use it because it's inherently stupid, and an abominable misuse of English.

That is an actual argument.

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 02:41 PM (94iKh)

457 So on the one hand, it's been adopted by some assholes.

But on the other hand
a: It's funny
b: It's evocative
c: It really pisses off the squishy half-libs that have ruined the Republican party
d: Word policing is a liberal game

Posted by: Steven at July 29, 2015 02:42 PM (jE+ot)

458 When I see a so-called Conservative like Gabe spend so much time and energy attacking HIS OWN SIDE, especially with liberal tactics, I realize what the term "cuckservative" really means. And it's got nothing to do with racism, but with those who fold and stab their allies in the back time after time.

Describes him very well, really.

Breitbart has a great article from a Conservative Interracial Expert Homosexual on the term: It's not racist.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/o57mxpe

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 02:43 PM (3edTg)

459 words....what are they good for? absolutely nothing.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 02:39 PM (0O7c5)

PG, I saw Edwin Starr perform this live at his "Starr Club" in L.A. circa 1972. Well, the "War" song, at least. He was a dynamic performer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2015 02:45 PM (IaP9F)

460 "Look, this just means that if you like Trumps message on immigration, you need to disown these people."

No, we don't need to disown these people. The Democrats don't disown their lunatics - they invite them to the White House.

Now, we don't need to go that far, but what we can do is just ignore them. Nobody was talking about, or was particularly aware of, the Storm Front crowd until Gabe and his ilk started getting their panties in a twist.

The entire point about the immigration argument, both legal and illegal, is that it is trans-racial, and truly populist. GOP Inc. has been looking for a way to concretize conservative populism for it seems like ever; now that the means has been handed to them on a platter they are running from it, trivializing it, demonizing it. The immigration question is one of the few issues that will draw left-leaning voters rightward without the right having to lean left.

Unchecked immigration, both legal and illegal, detrimentally affects all members of the working/middle classes in America, black, white, brown, yellow, etc. It hurts black citizens and legalized Hispanic citizens. So does so-called "free trade" policy that ships decent-paying manufacturing jobs overseas, while allowing more uneducated immigrant labor in through the back door. It's lose-lose for the multiracial American working/middle class, but both wings of the Uniparty are firm on de facto open borders because the money class wants cheap labor and downward pressure on existing wages in all areas of the economy.

How paradoxical that an issue that can bridge racial divides, and that is tailor made for a party that is derided by its enemies for being racially insensitive, is being attacked from within that party and branded racist. When you see the likes of Gabriel Malor, Allahpundit, and Kevin Williamson (who seems to take fashion and grooming tips from Andrew Sullivan) getting in the same boat with Bill Kristol, Krauthammer, and George Will, you know the entire party, mainstream and opposition, is rotten to the core.

Posted by: Joseph K at July 29, 2015 02:45 PM (83IN3)

461 >>>I knew what the word meant, too, and I don't see "man whose wife committed adultery" as a pussy, though. I dunno. It's also by itself a really weird way to insult someone's politics
Posted by: Jenny Hates That Squiggly Red Line at July 29, 2015 02:30 PM (dbrg

Yeah, I have no idea what "cuckservative" is supposed to mean outside of a racial context.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 29, 2015 02:49 PM (y2ws9)

462 Yesterday, in response to the whitewashing of the word "cuckservative" by the website abusing the good name of Andrew Breitbart

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Think I speak for a lot of people when I say shut the fuck up, Gabe. This type of shit written above is why people generally don't like you. What a dumb fucking thing to burn bridges over. But here you are, in your standard holier than thou form, ready to denounce and disown anyone who may not agree with your feelings about a word that was made up about 25 seconds ago.

Posted by: Rich at July 29, 2015 02:50 PM (f3B34)

463 In the comments I see a lot of people saying (more or less), "since when is cuckold a racist term?" Um, did anyone say cuckold was racist? I think the discussion here is about the word cuckservative. Which was "coined" by white supremacists.

Who use it, and are using it in noxious, repulsive ways. Against many, including the owner of this blog. So why do people want to split hairs about whether or not it's a racist term? It's like the people who wanted to split hairs about whether or not someone should be considered a hero "just because" they were held by the enemy as a POW.

What's with all the linguistic parsing? Do we we really need to protect the word cuckservative? Is it that valuable? Don't we already have RINO?

Posted by: grandmalcaesar at July 29, 2015 02:52 PM (Cirob)

464 I like the word, and I will be using it in the future. I'm sure racists use lots of words I may use, but I don't care. This word is just so appropriate and obvious in its meaning. And it is a word that carries far more power than RINO does (should be CINO in my opinion).

Posted by: NotCoach at July 29, 2015 02:52 PM (rsudF)

465 Yeah, this:
"462 - Think I speak for a lot of people when I say shut the fuck up, Gabe. This type of shit written above is why people generally don't like you."

Posted by: Steven at July 29, 2015 02:53 PM (jE+ot)

466 "463 In the comments I see a lot of people saying (more or less), "since when is cuckold a racist term?" Um, did anyone say cuckold was racist? I think the discussion here is about the word cuckservative. Which was "coined" by white supremacists.

Posted by: grandmalcaesar at July 29, 2015 02:52 PM (Cirob)"

__________________________________________________

So what? I'm appropriating it and changing its meaning.

Posted by: NotCoach at July 29, 2015 02:54 PM (rsudF)

467 For crying out loud, Gabe, you shouldn't make shit up to bolster your point. CUCKOLD is an ancient word from Norman - it dates back at LEAST to 1066.

You're just lying about the origin when it serves no logical purpose. By making shit up, you weaken your position.

Cuckold just means that your wife is committing adultery and - in essence - saying you have no balls.

That's what it always has meant. You pretending that white supremacists made up the term is fucking stupid and gives the impression you're a hysterical dimwit who has to resort to lies to "punch up" your argument. Hint - you don't. Why do it?

I'm sure there's some perverted porn out there about it - there's perverted porn out there about Koalas, Bugs Bunny, and rubber coated blenders for God's sake. The fact that some disturbed people pretend they made up a word for their own sick pleasure DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE OR EVEN RELEVANT. Stop surfing for porn and pretending it is political.

Geez, you really should edit your post, it's horrifically dumb to outright lie in ignorance as you did about where cuckold comes from.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 29, 2015 02:59 PM (LlQKJ)

468 Yeah, I have no idea what "cuckservative" is supposed to mean outside of a racial context.

Cuckold: "Cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird" (wiki)

The cuckoo being a bird that lays eggs in other bird's nests, stealing the other bird's baby-rearing resources and often killing the actual babies in the process.

The logic of applying the above behavior to conservatism is left to the reader.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 03:00 PM (3edTg)

469 Btw, if you doubt the racist origins of the word "cuckservative" you need only read Heartiste. Those of us who read him back in his pick up artist days slowly watched his blog transform into an evolutionary biology white supremacy site.

Posted by: Irish Mike at July 29, 2015 03:01 PM (ep6+F)

470 We're taking it back.

Posted by: Randal at July 29, 2015 03:02 PM (94iKh)

471 If you believe "cuckservative" is racist then you are a cuckservative.

Posted by: Beef at July 29, 2015 03:04 PM (/q4N3)

472 "In the comments I see a lot of people saying (more or less), "since when is cuckold a racist term?" Um, did anyone say cuckold was racist? I think the discussion here is about the word cuckservative. Which was "coined" by white supremacists."

Gabe: "In short, "cuck," a derivative of "cuckold," is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races, which they view as weak whites inviting the other races to rape their wives, steal their homes/schools/society/etc."

Read the Breitbart article by Milo Yiannopoulos. Neither the term "cuck" nor "cuckservative" was "coined" by white supremacists. They appropriated the term and gave it their own specific meaning, which is now supposed to be the only meaning because Matt Lewis, Gabe Malor, and Erick ("a Christian who votes") Erickson.

Posted by: Joseph K at July 29, 2015 03:06 PM (83IN3)

473 >Honestly, who gives a shit about this parochial social media war and people flexing their Twitter muscles.

Cuckservatives-ahhh, shit. Now I'm racist.

Posted by: S at July 29, 2015 03:07 PM (HCXGq)

474 So who is the biggest cuckservative anyways? My money is on Boehner.

Posted by: NotCoach at July 29, 2015 03:08 PM (rsudF)

475 Gabe doesn't like it because, it might make men on the right actually see what they've become, cuckholded.

They bow before the homosexual lobby, they bow before the left and their Alinksky techniques.

It's effective and that's why he wants to stop it.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 29, 2015 03:09 PM (w9GWK)

476 To not understand the base terminology where cuckold comes from ...

Is Gabe, a freaking lawyer, illiterate?

The alternative is that he lies, yet again.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 03:09 PM (3edTg)

477 Yuck....twitter is a sewer....why waste time with these people?

Posted by: pam at July 29, 2015 03:13 PM (EAZ7y)

478 Okay here's how it is interpreted..

The cuckservative is an unfaithful wife.

Posted by: Randal at July 29, 2015 03:13 PM (94iKh)

479 And also a cuckholded husband

Posted by: Randal at July 29, 2015 03:14 PM (94iKh)

480 Unfaithful to his peers. And cheated on by his wife.

Posted by: Randal at July 29, 2015 03:14 PM (94iKh)

481 I guess the "cuckservative" thing could also be the Left's chickens coming home to roost. They've spent decades promoting black supremacy (and female supremacy, and Hispanic supremacy, and gay supremacy, etc.) while insulting white males and then all-but-daring them to turn to "white supremacy," confident that this was a line that whipped whites would never be able to bring themselves to cross. Even when I *was* a Leftist, I was always telling my Leftist friends they shouldn't be so cocky -- I grew up in Alabama, so I knew from experience that all this hate-whitey stuff they were so nonchalant about was playing with fire.

Well, now conservatives are the ones getting burned, and the Left, I'm sure, is laughing. But they're the ones who created this monster. If it consumes us, they will not like it when it turns around and focuses on them. Oh, I'm sure they *think* they'd welcome it: "At last, we can debate those conservatives honestly, as the racists they really are, etc., etc."

Yeah ... trust me guys, you don't want to go there. You really don't. You've got this idea that these racists will be exactly like John Boehner, except that they'll throw around the n-word. Yeah ... it isn't gonna be like that.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at July 29, 2015 03:16 PM (R1mDg)

482 Since liberals want to destroy white people, can we discuss their racism too?

Posted by: Roman Dmowski at July 29, 2015 03:22 PM (3/wVX)

483 I've learned to ignore malor's posts.

But I LOVE the comments that always follow.

Gabe, we don't like you. Most all of us here.

Vim Toot!

Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at July 29, 2015 03:39 PM (f2vmX)

484 @482 No, no we can't. The cuckservatives would get all flustered.

Posted by: Beef at July 29, 2015 03:41 PM (/q4N3)

485 "
Gabe, we don't like you. Most all of us here. "

Actually, I do like Gabe.

I may often disagree with both his views, and his arguments.

But, having met him in person, I enjoyed his company.

Still, I do disagree with him....
a lot.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 03:47 PM (VPLuQ)

486 "http://tinyurl.com/qczmqpx

So, anyone here want to say these are not racist?

That particular one? Nationalist but not racist.

Not wanting the US to become Mexico by importing their immigration law-ignoring underclass is hardly racist."

LOL!

White people mentioned...not americans, but white people.

Next...no mention of "Mexicans" but only "mestizos"

Do you know what that even means?

Ace of Spades is great website, but the comments have gone downhill a long time ago.

Posted by: Harun at July 29, 2015 03:47 PM (UBBWX)

487 Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him.
- Tessio

Posted by: meekle at July 29, 2015 03:55 PM (94iKh)

488 White people mentioned...not americans, but white people.

Next...no mention of "Mexicans" but only "mestizos"

Do you know what that even means?

It means that you're too dumb to comment on the issue. Observation of facts isn't racist.

"Fun" fact: LA is being ethnically cleansed of black people by those "mestizos". Opposing *that* is clearly racist.

Posted by: Tongue Using Alien at July 29, 2015 04:10 PM (3edTg)

489 Off, sock.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 04:10 PM (3edTg)

490 210 BB Wolf,

I've been packing/shredding for 3 weeks and have missed Malor of Spades Week at the HQ....

Best argument I've seen yet for voluntary medical coma....

Posted by: The Smiling Bandit@sven10077 at July 29, 2015 04:11 PM (/4AZU)

491 Cuck comes from cuckold, a thousand-year-old word about being backstabbed by a partner who sleeps with the enemy. Since that is exactly what is going on between conservative voters and their representatives that term is obviously going to gain traction.

Note that the opposition to the "cuckservative" contraction is not just about the contraction but about the use of the cuckold metaphor to describe what is going on with the "establishment conservative" party leadership. Gabe acknowledges this himself:

"In short, 'cuck,' a derivative of 'cuckold,' is a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races."

Really, that is the definition of cuckold? If I look up "cuckold" in the dictionary I will find: "a noun used by white supremacists to refer to whites who invite the destruction of the white race by tolerating other races"?

Maybe as the HUNDREDTH definition, if OED ever puts out a super-duper kitchen-sink special edition someday.

Matt Lewis flat-out Alinsky Rule 12's it, identifying "cuckold" with a born-yesterday niche of internet porn, which he has apparently watched enough to think it is all about race. "Freeze it, personalize it, polarize it." So one of the most basic metaphors in the English language is supposed to be barred from political debate because Lewis thinks he can tie it to a tiny internet backwater that didn't exist five years ago.

Gabe is doing the exact same thing, trying to ban this most appropriate metaphor on the grounds that it was supposedly used first on some internet chat board by a white supremacist. Seriously, we are now going to ban a most appropriate metaphor based on an exegesis of who first applied it to current circumstances, NOT BASED ON HOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY USING IT ARE USING IT?

Pure Alinsky Rule 12. Not that Gabe is intending it that way. He is just a surrender monkey, which just happens to be one of the behaviors that that the term is currently being used to describe.

The proper counter to Alinsky tactics is to COUNTER them. Don't let the cuckold metaphor be frozen (in an easy to attack straw-man form), don't let it be personalized (by attacks on the individuals who invoke this most appropriate abstract metaphor, labeling them personally with a bogus straw-man meaning that is not their own meaning), and don't let it be polarized (reject the racist straw man and assert the appropriateness of the general metaphor).

Gabe and Matt could have acknowledged the appropriateness of the metaphor and acknowledged that it was being embraced because of that appropriateness. Instead they went all in on the Alinsky side, backing the freezing, personalization and polarization of the use of one of the oldest and most important concepts in the English language, essentially trying to ban the cuckold metaphor from political debate, a huge and terrible mistake.

That's why people like Trump. He fights. Lewis and Malor fight with their own side. Sorry guys, but the shoe fits. You are cuckservatives, and no, there is not a hint of anything racial in my application of that epithet to you. You are laying down for the enemy. You are enabling their Rule 12 slander of other conservatives. You are helping them with it. You are in on it with them, fully engaged. You are taking it up the ass for all of us.

For Gabe, I think he just can't see the forest for the trees. Instead of realizing that he is talking about banning reference to one of the oldest and most central concepts in the English language, he dismisses defense of the cuckold metaphor as people being "super-attached to a slur they just heard last week." Um, no.

Might as well ban the accusation of dishonesty on the grounds that "dishonesty" is not one of the most fundamental concepts in human existence, but a mere racial "dog whistle," which of course the left actually does. EVERY substantive criticism of Obama gets re-labeled a racist dog whistle. We don't know by now to fight this instead of embrace it?

Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 29, 2015 04:13 PM (kTTUz)

492 475 misfortune and pestilence,

I'll take being lectured on race by people inveighing 'ONLY BLACK LIVES MATTER' at the intersection of fat chance and never...

Posted by: The Smiling Bandit@sven10077 at July 29, 2015 04:14 PM (/4AZU)

493 Hey Sven!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 04:15 PM (3edTg)

494 493 ConservativeMonster,

Hey back at ya...

The 10077 clan treks west in less than a month now.

Mountain time zone here we come.

Posted by: The Smiling Bandit@sven10077 at July 29, 2015 04:17 PM (/4AZU)

495 492 Alec Rawls,

The left refuses to name enemies on their left Matt the Smirk Lewis like Romney takes more glee in punching right than left.

Posted by: The Smiling Bandit@sven10077 at July 29, 2015 04:20 PM (/4AZU)

496 The 10077 clan treks west in less than a month now.
Mountain time zone here we come.

Hope that means a safer place with options.

The Left Coast isn't going to be pretty if SHTF.

Posted by: Self Evaluation at July 29, 2015 04:22 PM (3edTg)

497 Ack. Sockfail again.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 29, 2015 04:22 PM (3edTg)

498 Gabriel Harris Perry wants to police our language. Like his ideological soul-sister on Maddow's show, he'll put us the knowledge as to what "code words" we're no longer to use because Thought Leader.

Get over it, Gabe. It's not blog-worthy news that you're getting trolled on Twitter, particularly when you've appointed yourself Code-Word Finder General re: Cuck/Cuckservative.

This is liberal language shaming, nothing more - and I thought we were against that around here, Ace in particular. Apparently some code words are more coded than others.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 29, 2015 04:30 PM (Vqs+z)

499 "What's with all the linguistic parsing? Do we we really need to protect the word cuckservative? Is it that valuable?"

Obsta principes.

We're tired of being Hectored (SWIDT) by Gabe and the other self-appointed conservative Thought Leaders (e.g. ban-happy self-righteous scold Erickson at the Church of Red State) as to GoodWords and BadWords. It's elitist mean-girl conformity enforcement and has no place among conservatives or libertarians on the Right.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 29, 2015 04:37 PM (GFT5K)

500 Dude, stop. Put away Twitter and get a life.

Nobody in the real world gives a shit about any Twitter meme. Not only do they not give a shit about it, they don't even KNOW it exists.

Please, step out of the cocoon.

Posted by: deadrody at July 29, 2015 04:41 PM (ufb3z)

501 "But I guess those folks aren't serious candidates like Trump."

Post a piece on Perry or Carly or Walker then.

"Focus on what really matters" is too often a rhetorical substitute for "I'd like to change the subject because my guys are losing on this one."

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 29, 2015 04:42 PM (K+57x)

502 I want to know when, in the 11-day saga of this nomenclature, whether this particular slur is more or less than 11 days old.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2015 01:14 PM (b65cm)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, let's be clear. We can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is definitively NOT more than 11 days old.

Which is why this is unbelievably stupid.

Posted by: deadrody at July 29, 2015 04:44 PM (ufb3z)

503 The reason why Cuckservative is such an effective term is because it reveals instantly those who believe our western european values (and let's be honest here, these are white values) are under assault via demographic replacement, and those who claim to be "above it all", nice conservatives, whose biggest fear is not an existential one but being called a racist. Cuckservative a lazer beam. It separate the wheat from the chaff.

Whether you like it or not, whites will soon have to fight for their existence. Once you are a minority (shockingly soon if you look at the data) your vote won't count anymore because there won't be enough of you. Good luck at that point. Every single non-white demographic group is not only racially conscious, but actively fighting for their racial self-interest. Once they can consistently out-vote you, you're hosed. The party they vote for already consideres you their enemy. They've already deemed you to be racist, so what's the next step in your elimination?

So if you are offended by the term, Cuckservative, might I suggest that it's probably because you are one.

Posted by: Elijah Rhodes at July 29, 2015 04:47 PM (ltEyp)

504 "So if you are offended by the term, Cuckservative, might I suggest that it's probably because you are one."

Thread Winner!

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 29, 2015 05:21 PM (w9GWK)

505 "We've been over this."

Finger-wag much, son?

Posted by: Hobbits gotta hobbit at July 29, 2015 05:26 PM (Ft3+l)

506 I refuse even to care about "white racism" or accusations of the same. It's reportedly ubiquitous and also the worst sin imaginable. And when it's denied, we're accused of it anyway. I know some conservatives are racist. So what. I don't agree with racism, but I don't agree with liberal univeralism, and I think the latter is the dominant cultural tendency, the root of much evil, and it's the real enemy worth fighting.

The charges of racism are designed to demoralize the right. We must remember they will call us racists regardless. It's not worth caring about anymore. They have no moral right to criticize it, in light of all the evils in the name of anti-racism.

Consider something like school desegregation. I don't agree with Jim Crow school laws and find it mean-spirited and unnecessary. But in the last 40 years we have seen the complete destruction of cities and urban schools due to liberal forced integration and bussing. It's been a genuine disaster for whites, blacks, and the country. But we're supposed to ignore that and just focus on some 50 year old practice that almost none of us experienced. Screw that. And screw their preening moral superiority.

Posted by: Roman Dmowski at July 29, 2015 05:28 PM (3/wVX)

507 "Every single non-white demographic group is not only racially conscious, but actively fighting for their racial self-interest. Once they can consistently out-vote you, you're hosed."

When you look at the last presidential election the only states where a majority of white males voted Democrat where Oregon, Washington, Maine, Vermont and Massachusetts. In most of the other states in this country the Democrat party is majority minority or the state itself is so conservative that the local Democrat party can't appeal to anyone because the national party has tilted so far left. It would seem that as America becomes less white, the remaining white people will vote more uniformly. For better or for ill it seems white people in this country are becoming more "race aware".

Posted by: Irish Mike at July 29, 2015 05:39 PM (ep6+F)

508 guys, give this a read:

http://thoughtsandrantings.com/2015/07/29/my-thoughts-on-cuckservative/

Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 29, 2015 05:47 PM (cudF1)

509 I just assumed that the idiots spewing the #cuckservative lie were leftist trolls out making the conservatives SEEM to be racist tools.

Silly me.

Then I get a leftist junk email telling me that Trump is 'proof' that all Republicans are bigots ... or other BS. No wonder GOP 'grownups' are beside themselves. This is 'teabaggers' redux.

"Secondly, don't lose sight of the fact that the "cuckservative" epithet
is also a metaphor. That epithet rests on the belief that the society
is polarized by racial lines and that the so-called cuckservative,
through their actions and policy preferences, simultaneously acknowledge
differing interests based on communities where race creates a common
interest but deliberately omits a particular interest in their pursuit
of political gain."

PROOF THAT USING "CUCKSERVATIVE" SERVES THE LEFT-WING AGENDA. Basically, Obama and the leftists have a conspiracy
with the racists to make it all about race - and not about content of
character or individual rights and responsibilities. If its 'group
identity' then the socialists win.... and the multi-culturalists win,
because ... Demographics.

White supremacists are, like Hitler was, socialists at heart. But they are also idiots, who, like Hitler, ended up letting communists (Stalin, FDR) win.

"37
Nothing, and I do mean absolutely nothing, good ever comes from fucking
Twitter. Fuck Twitter. I avoid it at all costs and suggest you all do
the same."

Yeah, there is that.

Then here, we get Camille Paglia to tell us the obvious truth - liberals are intolerant and immature. But she says it well.

Posted by: Barry Hussein O'Bama at July 29, 2015 05:49 PM (yTnTP)

510 I'd propose "Butservative"; however, that's probably homophobic, even though I'm thinking of the conjunction.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 29, 2015 05:50 PM (iPnXN)

511 Holy shit, you idiots don't get it, do you? When you say things like "only racists use 'cuckservative'" you're only proving us right. How are you NOT cuckservatives? You flat out say you don't care about your own race; that's EXACTLY why we're criticizing you. You openly admit that you don't care if America is destroyed, and that's why you're cuckservatives: you're giving the country to the people who hate it. Do you actually think mestizos, blacks, and muslims are going to respect the Constitution after Whites are gone? How stupid are you?

Posted by: White Supremacist Nazi at July 29, 2015 06:00 PM (drnl9)

512
Cuckservative is not objectionable because it is racist. Even though it is.

Cuckservative is objectionable because it is a slander against conservatives with sexual connotations and racist implications. Any non-racist conservative is thus attacked.

Like the 'teabagger' slur, some leftists (er) racists are taking a disgusting sexual term and applying it to conservatives for daring to be , um, conservative.

F anyone using that term or the vile teabagger one.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 29, 2015 06:08 PM (yTnTP)

513 "Basically, Obama and the leftists have a conspiracy
with the racists to make it all about race - and not about content of character or individual rights and responsibilities."

....

LIEbruls are the REAL racists.

#ShitCuckservativesSay.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 29, 2015 06:11 PM (iPnXN)

514 cuck is a 4chan meme which doesn't relate to race, but to cuckoldry, weakness and sexual submissiveness

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cuck

Note the prominent non-racial variants like "Moot is a cuck"

The rise of the cuck meme is probably linked to this classic 2010 article about "the sex fetish for intellectuals"; cuckolding. Which established a baseline for what the lowest kind of man in the world would be into.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/ articles/2010/07/29/ cuckolding-the-sex-fetish-for-intellectuals. html

If you're going to use cuck as a generic insult for a weak, submissive man, as 4chan does, then it is natural to call the GOP cucks, for they are nothing if not weak and submissive. And after that, cuckservative creates itself.

Race is not the only area where the GOP "cucks" for the left. It's just the one that happens to offend you the most because of your liberal attitudes on race.

Posted by: Just sayin' at July 29, 2015 06:15 PM (CCvzp)

515 4-Chan's gonna 4-Chan. This is not a white supremacist thing. This is trolly 4-Channers tricking people into taking a reactionary moral high ground stance (and simultaneously tricking some real, honest to goodness racist people into picking it up and running with it).

Honestly Gabe, you're awesome but I'm a little embarrassed that you fell for this so hard.

Posted by: Stingyhat at July 29, 2015 06:31 PM (fsTl5)

516 Cuckservative is objectionable because it is a slander against conservatives with sexual connotations and racist implications.

...

It's only a slander if it isn't true. Sadly, for you, it is.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 29, 2015 06:49 PM (iPnXN)

517 Hell, I thought they were babbling about conservative canuks...

Posted by: mojo at July 29, 2015 07:46 PM (OmBeX)

518 It is worth noting that traditionally, cuckold was one of the strongest insults available, because in investing his resources in another man's child, the cuckold fails in his role as a man and potentially ends his family line. But what's worse is that... is he goes along with it, unwittingly or not.

The GOP is doing that to our civilization. Different people are different and after a massive demographic (and cultural) shift, the civilization we knew will be gone. You might think you can assimilate them, but they will outnumber you and the left will control every aspect of the culture, so they will end up assimilating you. But really, the resulting civilization will be worse than both of the ones that preceded it.

Those of us in the younger but not too young generation are less sheltered from what is happening and we've seen the relatively normal civilization we grew up with ending around us, replaced not by Mexico, but by something much worse. The GOP has had plenty of power during this time, but has done nothing to save us. They haven't even tried. Cuckservative might be too good for the GOP, many of them are simply traitors.

But if we continued to play along with them, then we would in fact be cuckservatives.

Posted by: Just sayin' at July 29, 2015 08:07 PM (CCvzp)

519 If something as shallow as being called a cuckservative on twitter gives you the fits maybe you aren't equipped for the fight ahead.

Posted by: Achilles at July 29, 2015 08:12 PM (TpeIH)

520 As others have said - the conservatives squealing loudest about the 'cuckservative' label are inevitably the ones to whom it most readily applies.

If you're forever hand-wringing over how 'complicated' the illegal immigration issue is, and how it's unthinkable, wrong, and mean to even consider deporting illegal immigrants... you might be a cuckservative.

If you have no problem whatsoever with La Raza advocating for latino interests, or the NAACP advocating for black interests, but the idea of anyone advocating for white interests makes you feel terrible and angry and sad... you might be a cuckservative.

If you think anyone who flies a confederate flag or supports it being flown is a horrible racist who should be denounced, mocked, and shamed, largely because one lone nut and an orchestrated media outcry came against you... you might be a cuckservative.

If you tried to denounce Trump and insist he drop out of the race because he dared point out the crime and problems that comes with illegal immigration, and feel endlessly frustrated that he ended up sticking around and thriving... you might be a cuckservative.

Posted by: Crude at July 29, 2015 08:13 PM (/IrCS)

521 Noted that every single subject on earth has to go back to sex ( preferably dirty or perverse) if you are a male.

Seriously, spend some time in psychotherapy, guys.

But now, I see as through a crotch, darkly.

G-R-O-W U-P.

Posted by: Samuel Clemens at July 29, 2015 08:24 PM (SJ184)

522 I hate it when conservatives insist on imitating the left by playing Orwellian games with the language. The only time I had ever previously encountered the word cuckold was in English literature classes and Shakespeare plays. Now, because some obscure nut jobs somewhere in the bowels of the internet combined "cuck" and "conservative" the derivative is forever off limits?? Not only no, but hell no!

Because I am not a racist nut job I refuse to act as if I have some racist nut job proclivities to hide. That is exactly how I would be acting if I let their usage of the term dictate whether I ever use the term. I am not going to surrender the language to them or anyone else.

Posted by: Joel at July 30, 2015 03:50 AM (N5wlQ)

523 "I have not been paying attention to this story at all really. But from
what I gather, does cuckold = racial slur in the same way fa***t = gay
slur?"

No. Its quite explicitly an attemptby a bunch of ideological racists and identitarians to score points in the wake of Donald Trumps success. They are dancing a victorydance here:

http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2015/7/29/cuckservative-in-wapo

Posted by: fnord73 at July 30, 2015 04:33 AM (UApyh)

524 Cuckservative isn't racist because a racist or a non racist wants it to be. Cuckold means something already - to be cheated on. If you want a racist term try cuckcasian or cuckasian or cuckspanic. Don't run from a word or cry like a campus leftist. It's really embarrassing with all the hand wringing and fainting spells over a word. How do you expect to take back a culture when you can't even take back a word from a bunch of stupid racists? It's funny and in GOP leaderships case, accurate.

Posted by: Newagegop at July 30, 2015 09:27 AM (fzpuX)

525
"Why yes, calling those who criticize us "white supremacists" IS
intended to shut down any questioning ... "

Actually ... It's calling a spade a spade.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 10:47 AM (yTnTP)

526 "The reason why Cuckservative is such an effective term is because it
reveals instantly those who believe our western european values (and
let's be honest here, these are white values) are under assault via
demographic replacement,"

Let's be honest here.

When white Liberals / leftists go to Kenya and try to lecture them on the latest marxist claptrap or tell them to make nice with the gheys, and the black people of Kenya respond that their Christian values don't allow that, the whole racist concept that 'western values' are stronger in the west is kaput.

You find stronger family values in India and Africa than in US or northern Europe.

The "you only support western values because you are white" meme is itself a marxist leftist one. And racist.

Ideas and demographics are different.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 10:51 AM (yTnTP)

527 "It really pisses off the squishy half-libs that have ruined the Republican party"

No sir, it is a direct and disgusting insult to all real conservatives who happen to be in multi-racial families and relationships, AND an insult to every minority conservative (slapping down Clarence Thomas and others).

That includes perhaps the #1 conservative intellectual in America today, Thomas Sowell. These twitter feinds arent fit to shine his shoes.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 10:54 AM (yTnTP)

528 "Folks, it's racist. I'm also on Twitter and the people using it ARE racist and anti-semitic too."

They had me at "gentile conservative".

Who but Stormfronters talks that way?

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 11:19 AM (yTnTP)

529 "481
I guess the "cuckservative" thing could also be the Left's chickens
coming home to roost. They've spent decades promoting black supremacy
(and female supremacy, and Hispanic supremacy, and gay supremacy, etc.)
while insulting white males and then all-but-daring them to turn to
"white supremacy," confident that this was a line that whipped whites
would never be able to bring themselves to cross."

No, you have it wrong. The Left WANTS AND NEEDS THESE GUYS TO CROSS THE LINE. the Left wants to make it about race. The KKK is the Southern Poverty Law Center's top fundraising meme. Dylan Roof's crime was an opportunity for the left. They got to revive an old cause and send confederate flags running.

The reality is that the left's meme is about 'unjust inequalities build
on racism', and the refutation of that is a society built on responsibility and individual merit. Classical liberalism, versus neo-marxism. Then some neo-reactionaries pop up and ruin it all by claiming the left's ontology is right, but they just want to stick up for the old-time oppressors in the marxist terminology.

Let's just say that when a few whites get fed up by whatever to go batsh*t, you've been (Dylan) Roofied. Every time a white racist acts like the crazed loser they are, they win. #youvebeenRoofied

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 11:34 AM (yTnTP)

530 .

Posted by: at August 01, 2015 03:47 PM (/rKZD)

531 Keep Calm Cruz On at July 30, 2015 10:54 AM (yTnTP)
You know nothing. Most of these "twitter fiends" respect blacks like Sowell and Thomas, why, because the respect Western Civilization and defend Western Civilization and the people who created it.

Posted by: cuckcrusher at August 01, 2015 07:43 PM (EHN5f)

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