AoSHQ Interview With Dan Holler Of Heritage Action On All Things Conservative And GOP

First, sorry about my audio on yesterday's interview with Noah Pollak (If you missed it, it's all about the Iran deal. Listen here.). Not sure what happened. Today's sounds fine so no excuse for you there.

Dan Holler (@danholler) is the Director of Communications at Heritage Action where he does a great job of keeping track of the ins and outs of policy and politics from a conservative perspective.

You can listen to the interview (which is under 25 minutes) here.

We spoke late yesterday afternoon about a number of things including:

This weekend's clown show in the Senate where Mitch McConnell told conservatives where they could stuff it.

Why the battle to end the relatively small and obscure Export-Import Bank is so important for anyone who wants to shrink the size and scope of government. Fun fact: The law requires the bank to be closing up shop but in typical Obama fashion the head of the bank has said, nah.

We also discussed the first 7 months of the GOP Congress and the many ways and reasons it's been such a dumpster fire.

Dan tries to convince me that the GOP is salvagable without burning it down. I felt a little twinge of something in my cold, black hear. It might have been....optimism. But then it unlike any legislation conservatives support, it passed. You might have better luck.

To give you some fodder for discussion while you're listening (and hey, tell your friends!) Tim Carney writes today about something Dan touches on in the interview...Mitch McConnell's flawed vision.

Next fall, when Hillary Clinton and her proxies in the media point to government shutdowns to argue that Republicans aren't mature enough be left in charge, McConnell wants to point to two legislative years full of accomplishments. Already, he boasts of passing a budget (something Harry Reid basically never did), an update of No Child Left Behind, Trade Promotion Authority and a permanent "doc fix."
...
From a simply political perspective, there are reasons to question McConnell's strategy. The electorate complains about dysfunctional Congress, but are they really going to reward a Congress that passes small-fry bills that most regular people will never hear about?
Then there's the policy strategy: Can you possibly set the stage for an agenda of shrinking government by passing a bunch of bills that mostly increase government — restarting an expired subsidy agency, increasing Medicare spending and increasing federal spending and revenue through a highway bill?

My argument is, no. If you don't make the case when you have the power (even if Obama vetoes everything), you can't sell people on the idea that if you give them more power you will use to do the exact opposite of what you spent 2 years doing. The lesson the GOP will learn is cutting deals with Harry Reid and Patty Murray comes with no cost from the right and in fact they will be rewarded for it.

Does anyone, other than McConnell and Boehner, think that if you keep handing the Democrats all these "compromise" bills (aka, government expanding laws) they will suddenly become more pliable if Jeb! is in the White House? Of course not. They will double down on their demands and obstruction. Then the argument will be, "well, we have to cut a deal with the big government types because the mid-terms. We have to show we can govern after all."

Either you make the case for what you want to do with to the public and let the chips fall where they may or you just simply accept that the job of both parties is to manage the growth of the government in a way that isn't to shocking to low information voters. If it's the latter, the GOP serves no real purpose other than as the right wing of the Democrat party.

Did I mention that the tinge of optimism from Dan didn't last long?

Listen for yourself. Maybe it'll work better for you.

Thanks to our own Andy for the technical support in getting these interviews up online.

Posted by: DrewM. at 09:54 AM

Comments

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1 Stomped like Godzilla on Bambi.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 29, 2015 09:55 AM (RD7QR)

2 Drew STOMP.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 09:55 AM (evdj2)

3 Strange -- gotta wonder how long this post will last.

They're droppin' like flies!

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 09:56 AM (rCmeG)

4 drew the new ACE!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 09:56 AM (0O7c5)

5 It's already burning.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes that 4 legs good, 2 legs bad at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (evdj2)

6 My most brilliant comments always get enstompened. Brilliant, I tells ya.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (YFw5T)

7 Stomped like Cecil

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (VPLuQ)

8 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 09:56 AM

No ma'm...Drew doesn't double-post, AFAIK.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (rCmeG)

9 Seriously you guys, you just need to lay off Mitch McConnell. He knows what is best!

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (Maary)

10 Fun fact: The law requires the bank to be closing up shop but in typical Obama fashion the head of the bank has said, nah.

Of course it did.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (/kI1Q)

11 So they are keeping the ExIm Bank open with no allocated funds? Why isn't someone in jail?

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 09:57 AM (GpgJl)

12 I want the art thread back...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (7Eo8i)

13 I hereby formally request a change to the AoSHQ Style Guide that Hump Day be changed to Stomp Day.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (fPIAw)

14 @ 4 - " drew the new ACE!"

Not really. Drew only rarely screws up the site code.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (Maary)

15 I guess Rick Wilson didn't like the painting...

Posted by: Big McLargehuge Mk I at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (u9OP6)

16 Listen, all I needed to see from this group of useless cunts was their first action right out of the gate was to raise the amount that Wall Street could donate to political campaigns.

They are useless, they need to be removed and replaced.

They are not listening and we simply do not have a representative governme any longer.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (7mKz/)

17 Already, he boasts of passing a budget (something Harry Reid basically
never did), an update of No Child Left Behind, Trade Promotion Authority
and a permanent "doc fix."

So he brags about being a Democrat?

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 09:59 AM (GpgJl)

18 We have to show we can govern after all.

It's funny that 'govern' is everything their cronies want.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 09:59 AM (oVJmc)

19 Bierstadt, we hardly knew yee.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at July 29, 2015 09:59 AM (eh3ud)

20 The Democrats are our opponents, the Republican leadership is our enemy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) is an AllenG wannabe at July 29, 2015 10:00 AM (evdj2)

21 Red-headed kid. Boots. Enstompening. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2015 10:00 AM (P25Hh)

22 Drew and Gabe of Spades doesn't have nearly the same ring.

Posted by: joe at July 29, 2015 10:00 AM (KUaJL)

23 Mt Tacoma is gone. Repeat - it's gone.

Ass to the blast and Flank 3.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:01 AM (u82oZ)

24
I saw All Things Conservative open for Stomp! on Broadway back in '08.

I got mugged coming out of the theater.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:01 AM (BcfrM)

25
"the GOP serves no real purpose other than as the right wing of the Democrat party."

John "Scoop" Boehner....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 29, 2015 10:01 AM (kdS6q)

26 ExIm Bank, the epitome of crony corruption. Of course they want to pass that but the House squashed it.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (GpgJl)

27 Did Gojira just climb Mt. Tacoma?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (7Eo8i)

28 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (kff5f)

29 McConnell needs to be fired.

I honestly believe 90% of the rank and file Republicans (especially in the House) ARE good conservatives, we just have piss poor leadership.

Posted by: Kal at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (A3kYV)

30 O/T, but Ace's ad server can burn in hell for throwing full screen video up on my Fire without permission. Also, the Silk 'browser' is utter shit.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (V1M8q)

31 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (kff5f)

32 Okay... so what's with the disappearing posts?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (kff5f)

33 Bambi needed to be stomped by Godzilla, and here's why.....

Another pseudo Vox Headline

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (RFeQD)

34 So when is the site URL being changing to gabe.mu.nu?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (Maary)

35 This is not a drill. General quarters. General Quarters. All hands General Quarters.

Set Circle William throughout the ship.

Activate Countermeasures Wash-down system.

Mt. Tacoma is gone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:03 AM (u82oZ)

36 30

There are other browsers in the Kindle store. I used Dragon for a while. YMMV.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 29, 2015 10:04 AM (oVJmc)

37
I still think Teh Ewok self-banned again, he's just too embarrassed to admit it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:04 AM (BcfrM)

38 Okay... so what's with the disappearing posts?

These are not the threads you are looking for. *waves hand* Move along.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 10:04 AM (evdj2)

39
Okay... so what's with the disappearing posts?

They were burned, scattered, and salted.

I blame you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:05 AM (JtwS4)

40 Okay, being a grouchy, cynical old bastige, I'm gonna say that "where he does a great job of keeping track of the ins and outs of policy and politics from a conservative perspective" makes me want to say "next topic, please."

We are up to the tops of our hip-waders in "conservative" commentarians who yap endlessly about the Great Game of Politics. Everyone opines, anal-yzes, dissects and fills in the crosstabs of all the maneuvering, bullshitting, thievery and treason that has become D.C.'s Most Important Product.

And yet, in spite of a horde of "watchdogs" -- some of whom are pulling a pretty penny from their mad keyboard skillz -- nothing changes. The shitweasels remain in control, unmolested and even unchallenged, and keep on doin' what they do best.

Nothing against this particular guy, of course. He may be the brightest bulb in the chandelier, I dunno.

But the first one who calls for some kind of action rather than reminding us these yahoos are as scummy as we already think they are, gets my attention.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:06 AM (rCmeG)

41 "Ass to the blast and Flank 3."

Sounds like something from a Spru-can.

Or another one of those LM-2500 powered floaty things.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:06 AM (VPLuQ)

42 What I love about Ex-IM is the presumption private banking sources cannot be found, and the government "must do the job!".

If the credits are worthwhile they will also be profitable, and private banks will finance them. If the "bank" just provides a disguised form of government subsidy then private banks obviously won't step in.

In other words, the non-interest of private banks that Ex-Im supporters claim tells you exactly what is happening here: government subsidies. Crony capitalism for the donor class. End of story.

Posted by: MTF at July 29, 2015 10:07 AM (LISuA)

43 VIA if it was an LCS that would be Flog Three.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:07 AM (7Eo8i)

44 Psst. Did you hear there's talk of a third party? Something called the "Pro-Con Party." They're pro-conservative, pro-constitution, and they'd like to stick McConnell's and Boehner's heads in a couple of toilets.

Posted by: totally not Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (VAsIq)

45 McConnell needs to be fired.

I honestly believe 90% of the rank and file Republicans (especially
in the House) ARE good conservatives, we just have piss poor leadership.

Posted by: Kal

No, my friend, they aren't. I used to think that way about MY Republican congressman, but now I know better.

People can be corrupted by money, power and the promise of more money and power, or just keeping their jobs (and getting re-elected). As in-duh-vidual citizens, we cannot compete with that kind of persuasion. We get choices at election, and sometimes, with the best of intentions, we choose wrong. And sometimes we have really bad choices.
And then people get corrupted by the money train, and the huge amount of money that passes through the leviathan Federal Government.

The game is rigged and we can't win. But if you don't play, you can't win either.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (RFeQD)

46 Does anyone, other than McConnell and Boehner, think that if you keep handing the Democrats all these "compromise" bills (aka, government expanding laws) they will suddenly become more pliable if Jeb! is in the White House?

I could list a couple names.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (zt+N6)

47 Posted by: MTF at July 29, 2015 10:07 AM (LISuA)

the ex/im bank is one of the least "free market" things our government does.

And the, "yeah but Communist China does it too!" argument is possibly the worst way to sell it to conservatives.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (AkOaV)

48 Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:06 AM (rCmeG)

Yup!

DrewM....So what is our next step? What action should we take?

"We" meaning good solid small-government conservatives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (Zu3d9)

49 Mount Tacoma is gone but it was replaced by Mount Ranier. It's the Jimmy Garoppolo of mounts.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at July 29, 2015 10:09 AM (eh3ud)

50 The shitweasels remain in control, unmolested...

Posted by: MrScribbler

*eyes the shitweasel jealously*

Posted by: the Chicken at July 29, 2015 10:09 AM (VAsIq)

51 The GOP is dead. I'm working on the eulogy......The hell with it.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:09 AM (VcOqI)

52 I just bought a half gallon of milk and Ace was on it!!!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (jjaLl)

53 The Ex-Im bank. Where all the profits from selling baby parts go.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (P25Hh)

54 But the first one who calls for some kind of action rather than reminding us these yahoos are as scummy as we already think they are, gets my attention.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:06 AM (rCmeG)

Does this place have a name?

Posted by: Sam Houston at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (wkuqO)

55 This is not a drill. General quarters. General Quarters. All hands General Quarters. Set Circle William throughout the ship. Activate Countermeasures Wash-down system. Mt. Tacoma is gone.

I saw attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C Beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (fPIAw)

56 I 29 McConnell needs to be fired.

I honestly believe 90% of the rank and file Republicans (especially in the House) ARE good conservatives, we just have piss poor leadership.
Posted by: Kal at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (A3kYV)

Oh come on!

No chance.

95% (or more) of the people we elect to go to washington are completely non ideological when it comes to politics and just "position" themselves to

a) win the election
b) get the most power, money, influence, etc. possible
c) set themselves and their families / friends / cronies up to become very wealthy during and after the congresscritters time in office.

"being conservative" is not on that list.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (AkOaV)

57 I will stick both my hands up Hillary's ass to prevent myself from voting Republican again.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (VcOqI)

58 Ace must be doing undercover work of some sort.

Posted by: Killerdog at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (oBJPd)

59 The GOP is dead. I'm working on the eulogy......The hell with it.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:09 AM (VcOqI)

That's a pretty good start. I give it an 81.

Posted by: American Bandstand Dancer at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (JO9+V)

60 Ace is kidnapped?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (RFeQD)

61 26 ExIm Bank, the epitome of crony corruption. Of course they want to pass that but the House squashed it.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:02 AM (GpgJl

It'll be back by September. It'll be pushed through in whatever their next manufactured crisis "OMG WE MUST PASS THIS BILL NOW" event will be. So at the latest it will be back is November.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (zt+N6)

62 Is there a painting in the house?

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (VcOqI)

63 Every time I see a picture of McConnell, my mind replaces that image with one of an all day sucker.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (gxSOk)

64 "I just bought a half gallon of milk and Ace was on it!!!"

I just bought a bowl of soup, and Ace was IN it!!

Soylent Green is Ewoks!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (VPLuQ)

65 *calls in an airstrike with B61-12s on Shallow HAL 9000's position for that comment*

Also five gallon can of brain bleach - $5 and one mile of mental floss - $50.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (7Eo8i)

66 Ace is dead?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)

67 "We" meaning good solid small-government conservatives. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM

Either "we" -- in which I include "me" as well as "you" -- are as scarce as Passenger Pigeons, or we have been beaten down by the relentless double-teaming of lefties and optics-minded "conservatives."

In fact, I sometimes wonder how many votes Zombie Barry Goldwater would get if he was on the ballot today. Probably less than in '64....

Small government just doesn't work when you make room for Special Snowflakes and Free Shit.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (rCmeG)

68 Soylent Green is Ewoks!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Soiled Brown is Democrats!!

And maybe my underwear.

Posted by: Al Roker at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (VAsIq)

69 #66 He is with Elvis.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (VcOqI)

70 If the Republican Party were a house it would be sitting on a crumbling foundation, the roof leaks profusely and the floor joists are rotten. Alas what do they decide to do, fix the rot and foundation, no they decided a 80,ooo new kitchen should be built so they can sell it quick. You can't fix stupid, and the Establishment hate their voters, the treat us like second class citizens whilst they woo the Chamber of Slime and their elite ilk. Tear down the house and rebuild from the foundation up.

Posted by: Rose at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (/1Oxb)

71 "VIA if it was an LCS that would be Flog Three."

Or

General Quart..

Blub

Blub

Blub

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (VPLuQ)

72 From the podcast:

"There is going to be no trust amongst Republican voters that Republicans will follow through and deliver policy victories on hard things if they can't do something that is so easy {like letting} the Ex-Im bank go away...."

EXACTLY!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (Zu3d9)

73 60 Ace is kidnapped?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2015 10:11 AM (RFeQD)

Occams razor would say... yes.

66 Ace is dead?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)

My magic 8-ball says "there's a good chance of that"

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (AkOaV)

74 Ace may have went back in time to discover what the meaning of "is" is.

Posted by: Killerdog at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (oBJPd)

75 41 VIA Got it in one.
43 Anna Puma, I can just see the EOOW with a whip in hand -- for those times you feel the need for speed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (u82oZ)

76 *calls in an airstrike with B61-12s on Shallow HAL 9000's position for that comment*

Also five gallon can of brain bleach - $5 and one mile of mental floss - $50.

Seconded!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (fPIAw)

77 I just bought a half gallon of milk and Ace was on it!!!

If we really want to find him, we'll put his picture on bottles of cheap hooch.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (/kI1Q)

78 Alien abduction suspected.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (VcOqI)

79 Psst. Did you hear there's talk of a third party? Something called the "Pro-Con Party."

Posted by: totally not Turd Ferguson

Screw you!

Posted by: Pander Bear Party at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (VAsIq)

80 I saw ace in Times Square with Tupac selling Biggie Smalls T-Shirts for 2 for $10.

Posted by: Dave Chappelle at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (AkOaV)

81 Ace is dead?

Long live Ace!!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (fPIAw)

82 He is with Elvis. Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM

Vegas, huh?

Is there a new "Ace Wedding Chapel" there?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (rCmeG)

83 #76 I lost my....head.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (VcOqI)

84 Posted by: Dave Chappelle at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (AkOaV)

That wasn't Ace.

Ace doesn't sell t-shirts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)

85 Get with it. Ace is dead and Cobs are arguing about how to divvy up the last
$26.73 left in the HQ paypal account.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 29, 2015 10:16 AM (1aNPq)

86 "Ace isn't here man..."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:16 AM (7Eo8i)

87 Ace doesn't sell t-shirts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:16 AM (VAsIq)

88 Alien abduction suspected.

With probings!!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:16 AM (fPIAw)

89 That wasn't Ace.

Ace doesn't sell t-shirts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)

Touche.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:16 AM (AkOaV)

90 I stuck both my hands up Hillary's ass and came out with billing records from the Rose Law Firm, a threatening letter from Vince Foster, and several emails calling for immediate help from Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (VcOqI)

91 If we really want to find him, we'll put his picture on bottles of cheap hooch.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM

I've never seen a pic of him. He has been photographed fewer times than Mullah Omar, apparently.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (rCmeG)

92 We have reached the the limits of what anal probing can teach us.

Posted by: Kodos at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (evdj2)

93 Ace is off studying French so he can surrender in the proper language.

Posted by: French teacher at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (wkuqO)

94 They were burned, scattered, and salted.

I blame you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:05 AM (JtwS4)

So why does that never work on a Gabe post?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (kff5f)

95 We have reached the the limits of what anal probing can teach us.

Posted by: Kodos

Nah, we just need bigger probes.

Posted by: National Science Foundation at July 29, 2015 10:18 AM (VAsIq)

96
We have reached the the limits of what anal probing can teach us.

I beg to differ.

Posted by: Alien With a Really Long Index Finger at July 29, 2015 10:18 AM (jjaLl)

97 I've never seen a pic of him. He has been photographed fewer times than Mullah Omar, apparently.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (rCmeG)

I picture him looking like the "fat geek" stereotypes they always have on Law and Order SVU.

You know, the creepy guys in their moms basement who are surrounded by computer monitors and who seem like suspects but turn out to be good guys who help Ice T break the case.

That, or a straight up ewok.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:18 AM (AkOaV)

98 @ 94 - "So why does that never work on a Gabe post?"

Better question - does Gabe even work on his posts?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:18 AM (Maary)

99 "41 VIA Got it in one. "
As an MM2, I was considering conversion to the GS rate. When Mooseburger, the very first Gas Turbine powered ship to be home-ported there arrived in Chasn. I had a chance to get underway for a one week local op with her.

Stepping from FF-1089 to her, and seeing that Flank 1, Flank 2, Flank 3 was like walking onto the set of Star Trek.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (VPLuQ)

100 So why does that never work on a Gabe post?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:17 AM (kff5f)

what posts have been disappearing?

I heard some allusions to a vanishing weirddave post the other day, but I haven't really been paying attention

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (AkOaV)

101 They were burned, scattered, and salted.

Smothered, covered, and 'shroomed?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (/kI1Q)

102 74 Ace may have went back in time to discover what the meaning of "is" is.
Posted by: Killerdog at July 29, 2015 10:14 AM (oBJPd)

Not that he has a time machine or anything. [Places finger along nose]

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (RD7QR)

103 Ace went to JellyStone park to visit the bears. Ewoks and bears, it'seems a hair thing.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (eh3ud)

104 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:13 AM (Zu3d9)

Times a kajillion.

This isn't even defunding PBS or PP (which would both take affirmative action and could be thwarted). Ex/Im had expired all on its little lonesome. The only thing the DOPe had to do was ... nothing.

Instead, it gets revived.

Great job, Yertle.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (kff5f)

105 I just bought a half gallon of milk and Ace was on it!!!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 10:10 AM (jjaLl)

Problem is all Ewoks look alike.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (sgrzZ)

106

If you want optimism go to twitchy. They did a round up of last nights #unplanned parenthood tweets

Beautiful

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

107 Oh, so fun fact...

Do you know who else hasn't posted anything since Friday?

Our friend AllahPundit over at HotAir.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (AkOaV)

108 I picture him looking like the "fat geek" stereotypes they always have on Law and Order SVU.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:18 AM

That explains a lot!

I wonder if anyone has seen Ace and teh Corpulent "Captain" in the same place?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (rCmeG)

109 The walrus was Gabe.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2015 10:21 AM (BPCAC)

110 Great job, Yertle.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther)

C'mon, guys! Who leaked Mitch's code-name to the public?

Posted by: Senate Police Force at July 29, 2015 10:21 AM (VAsIq)

111 VIA the Fig-fan?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:21 AM (7Eo8i)

112 I feel enwidened.

Unexpectedly

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:21 AM (VPLuQ)

113 Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:19 AM (AkOaV)

A Weirddave post got disappeared over the weekend, and then a Drew post did yesterday (I think that one got better, eventually).

Now an Art thread from RDBrewer got unn'd.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:22 AM (kff5f)

114 They were burned, scattered, and salted.

Smothered, covered, and 'shroomed?

I'll take, "What is on the PP lunch menu", for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:22 AM (fPIAw)

115 LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:22 AM (Maary)

116 Now an Art thread from RDBrewer got unn'd.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:22 AM (kff5f)

maybe the hamsters are trying to unionize and they're doing work stoppages and work slow downs for additional leverage with pixy.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:23 AM (AkOaV)

117 You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up to more than I can be.

Posted by: Bob Dole, singing to Viagra at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (VAsIq)

118 107 Oh, so fun fact...

Do you know who else hasn't posted anything since Friday?

Our friend AllahPundit over at HotAir.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (AkOaV)

So they went Thelma and Louise on us? Arizona morons, keep you eyes peeled...

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

119 I thought someone here had linked to (what I thought was) a real picture of Ace, taken when he gave a speech or won an award or something...

He was tallish, had darkish hair, neatly trimmed beard and must--

MY GOD, ACE IS COMMANDER RIKER!!!!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (jjaLl)

120 51

"The hell with it."

Fitting eulogy.

Posted by: joe at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (34w2E)

121 MMMMM thanks mynewhandle. Now why don't you go wash your mouth out and fix me a sandwich.

Posted by: The Margins at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (zt+N6)

122 Now an Art thread from RDBrewer got unn'd.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:22 AM (kff5f)

we did get the art thread mid-afternoon yesterday. Totally screwed me up worse that normal.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 10:24 AM (sgrzZ)

123
Ace is dead?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 29, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)

Heh.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM (BcfrM)

124 88 VIA

My first CO was XO on Moose. That was his nickname ever-after. Ding Ding Ding Ding Moose, arriving.

Knox class ships were good to have around. They sure were a lot more useful, and warlike, than our current LCSs.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM (u82oZ)

125 I picture him looking like the "fat geek" stereotypes they always have on Law and Order SVU.

I've seen Ace. He's trim, probably about 5'7 or so, with a full head of dark brown hair and a nicely trimmed beard. I'm trying to give you a mind's-eye example, but all I can come up with is either a young George Lucas or a young Most Interesting Man In The World. So take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM (zF6Iw)

126 WooHoo! Thanks to my parents buying a Sleep-Number bed, I get $100 at the Sleep-Number store!

I can buy a pillow!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 29, 2015 10:26 AM (kff5f)

127 Ace is dead?

Posted by: Grump928(c)

I haven't seen him come through here.

Posted by: St. Peter, guarding the Pearly Gates at July 29, 2015 10:26 AM (VAsIq)

128 "VIA the Fig-fan?"

Could be.

As real Engineers, we always looked slightly askance at those turbine guys, with their engine modules, and air conditioned spaces.

And that whole Light Off ten minutes before a deployment thing.

After that, we stayed at arms length till I was the SIMA Ship Sup for USS Spruance (DD-963) herself.

Little VIA was christened in her ships bell, up on the Bridge.

Name engraved in it, and all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 29, 2015 10:26 AM (VPLuQ)

129 @ 127 - "I haven't seen him come through here."

Uh oh.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:26 AM (Maary)

130 maybe the hamsters are trying to unionize and they're doing work stoppages and work slow downs for additional leverage with pixy.

I told pixy to use guinea pigs. They're more appreciative.
When your only alternative in life is being on a Peruvian hotel's lunch menu, you'll happily run on a wheel.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (fPIAw)

131 Remember the extremely rosy predictions of 2nd Quarter GDP growth after the weather related contraction in the 1st Quarter? You remember, the ones projecting 3-3.5% growth in the GDP after the negative 1st quarter, those ones? Yeah, will forget them. Fox is saying the Fed is going to come out with the first number this morning and it will be ~2.0%. And we all know that will be revised downward in the first and second revisions.

I am betting on 1.2 or 1.3% final GDP growth for the 2nd Quarter once all of the revisions are done.

They are still projecting an annual 2.5% GDP growth though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (iONHu)

132 but all I can come up with is either a young George Lucas

So pre-pelican chin.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (zt+N6)

133 I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I did just a moment ago. She couldn't understand why Ace has been gone for so long. "Why"" she asked, pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and [as calmly as I could] tried to explain to her why the Boss has abandoned the blog, and yes, "even you", I was forced to say.

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of hopelessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at a loss for words - nothing made any sense, nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on with this blog anymore."

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes filled with tears. "Daddy," she said, "why is the Ewok doing this to AOSHQ?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.

For once, she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but hearing the strength in my young daughter's voice helped me get through.

Posted by: CheChe v.15.1 at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (3ZtZW)

134
Do you know who else hasn't posted anything since Friday?

Our friend AllahPundit over at HotAir.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:20 AM (AkOaV)

Allah and an Ewok sittin' in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G........

Uhhhhh, ewwwww.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (BcfrM)

135 If you follow the CPAC pictures you have seen a pic of Ace. He was a presenter at the conference the year before last IIANM.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (GpgJl)

136

Ok. Football fan pissed about Brady's phone and SIM card being destroyed after he asked for them

At which point I said. "Are you as upset about Hillary Clinton deleting two months of emails on her private server in the run up to Benghazi? Which one bothers you more? A coverup of deflated footballs or Benghazi? "

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (zOTsN)

137 @ 134 - "Allah and an Ewok sittin' in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G........"

Well, at least we'd know why he keeps Gabe around...

(/ducks)

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:28 AM (Maary)

138 Does anyone else see the irony in foreign policy that we are now more isolated than in the wildest big-L libertarian wet dreams? Our allies do not trust us, our enemies do not trust us, and whatever actions we do take are somehow totally equivocal and usually to our own detriment, which even the big-Ls would not countenance.

Not a fan of foreign engagements, but couldn't we at least show a little leadership and spine?

Sorry for the rant, but this is really bugging me. So sacrifice the Kurds to another genocide with Israel on the trains for the next one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 29, 2015 10:28 AM (MIKMs)

139 Here's the thing:

McConnell and Boehner promised to fight Obama and his agenda, promised to end of Obamacare or at least mortally wound it, promise to end amnesty.

So, that's what they need to do.

Whining about "having to show you can govern" only shows one thing:

They believe governing consists only of shoveling goodies towards the cronies and connected of the President.

What then is going to change with a Prez like Jeb! or Rubio?

Nothing and more nothing.

Or they could have gone the honorable route, coordinated with all members of the Party with the message that-

the public voted us into the majority to stop Obama, to stop and repeal his job-killing agenda, and to get the economy going

and that's what we're going to do.

Then do it to the best of your ability, staying on message all the time.

But-

Nooop.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (0cMkb)

140 People can be corrupted by money, power and the promise of more money and power, or just keeping their jobs (and getting re-elected). As in-duh-vidual citizens, we cannot compete with that kind of persuasion. We get choices at election, and sometimes, with the best of intentions, we choose wrong. And sometimes we have really bad choices.
And then people get corrupted by the money train, and the huge amount of money that passes through the leviathan Federal Government.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2015 10:08 AM (RFeQD)

What is stunning - and deeply depressing - is how quickly the current crop of Republicans have been corrupted - even Joni Earnest barely had time to take the bread bags off her feet and settle in when she started compromising.

I used to see how it happened - these pols move to DC, they get homes in Alexandria and Chevy Chase and G-town, they send their kids to the local (private) schools, they want to get invited to the right parties and see their names mentioned favorably in the WaPo - the folks back home become this irritant - the hicks you have to toss some crumbs to so you can continue to live the high life in DC.

But I always thought it took years. Now it takes months.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (u0lmX)

141 ...all I can come up with is either a young George
Lucas or a young Most Interesting Man In The World. So take it for what
it's worth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM

Sorta like a skinny Judge Crater?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (rCmeG)

142 128 VIA

That's ten minutes with warm lube oil. Oil not warm takes a bit longer.

So cool you got Little VIA christened in the Bell. That's an old tradition. I wonder where that bell is now?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (u82oZ)

143 I destroyed my phone because I didn't want Giselle finding out about my fifty or so other girlfriends.

Posted by: Tom Brady at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (VAsIq)

144 when ace disappears and no one talks about it its probably legal business. Which it probably is. But no one can talk about it.

Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ocf1)

145 /sock

Posted by: Bigby's Poking Finger at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (3ZtZW)

146 Best example of a vocal fry imho was the Joker from Dark Knight.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (+4uXG)

147 Ace? He's about 3 feet to the left of me.

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (eh3ud)

148 "A coverup of deflated footballs or Benghazi?"
--------------------------------------------------------------

They are both crimes. Both need punished.

Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (ShdUd)

149 My theory on Ace's disappearance.....Raptor attack.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (sgrzZ)

150 "when Hillary Clinton and her proxies in the media point to government shutdowns to argue that Republicans aren't mature enough be left in charge, McConnell wants to point to two legislative years full of accomplishments."

Stupid strategy. The media will lead the charge that Republicans aren't mature enough to be in charge *regardless* of what McConnell points to.

Are they really this dense? They actually believe the media will fairly represent their work product?

Posted by: Fen at July 29, 2015 10:31 AM (LzTHP)

151 No fan of Brady, but is what he did a crime. What crime. Was it a criminal investigation. No. No it wasn't.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:32 AM (zOTsN)

152 Buck Dharma >>>> Dan Holler

Snark mode off. Seriously, you guys do a good job of bringing serious voices to the blog. And I have great respect for Heritage; so does Jim DeMint, who quit the Senate to head it up.

DeMint was probably the most conservative voice in the Senate when he resigned so it says alot about DC that he felt he had a better chance of changing DC from the Outside rather than the Inside.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 29, 2015 10:32 AM (gxSOk)

153 They are both crimes. Both need punished.
Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 10:30 AM (ShdUd)

One is a rule violation the other is against the law. Therefore only one is a crime.

Posted by: Holliday Inn at July 29, 2015 10:32 AM (wkuqO)

154 "A coverup of deflated footballs or Benghazi?"

--------------------------------------------------------------

They are both crimes. Both need punished.>>>

There is a law on the books for squishy balls? Hell we need to use this against the RNC.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (81UWZ)

155 USS Spruance heh. Hornfischer's The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors went off the deep end and veered into speculation on why Spruance got a whole class of cans named for him while Halsey only got a ship in that book.

Speaking of George Lucas, now watching the second part of all the changes that have been made in the first Star Wars movie. One of the more dumb changes - Luke and Leia trying to cross that chasm, Leia's blaster now sounds different than every other Stormtrooper blaster.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (7Eo8i)

156 @ 149 - "My theory on Ace's disappearance.....Raptor attack."

Hotdog overload.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (Maary)

157 I've seen Ace. He's trim, probably about 5'7 or so, with a full head of dark brown hair and a nicely trimmed beard. I'm trying to give you a mind's-eye example, but all I can come up with is either a young George Lucas or a young Most Interesting Man In The World. So take it for what it's worth.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM (zF6Iw)

*waves at MP4*

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (mf5HN)

158 No fan of Brady, but is what he did a crime. What crime. Was it a criminal investigation. No. No it wasn't.

Posted by: ThunderB

Of course it's a crime! Just like that time you were playing Candy Land and palmed the Queen Frostine card to "get an edge." You must pay!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:34 AM (VAsIq)

159 "My theory on Ace's disappearance.....Raptor attack."

Hotdog overload.

Three ribeyes - meat coma.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:34 AM (fPIAw)

160 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:25 AM (zF6Iw)

just sayin... has anyone seen AP and ace in the same room?

And really? A young George Lucas?

Not what I was picturing at all.

I prefer my mental image, I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:34 AM (AkOaV)

161
"I also disagree with yesterdays narrative surrounding my cellphone. I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances. As a member of a union, I was under no obligation to set a new precedent going forward, nor was I made aware at any time during Mr. Wells investigation, that failing to subject my cell phone to investigation would result in ANY discipline."

-- Tom Brady, today on Facebook

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (JtwS4)

162 One of the more dumb changes - Luke and Leia trying to cross that chasm, Leia's blaster now sounds different than every other Stormtrooper blaster.

Posted by: Anna Puma

And that terrible echo! Ugh.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (VAsIq)

163 No fan of Brady, but is what he did a crime. What crime.

------------------------------------------------------------

Wonder if shoeless Joe Jackson or Pete Rose would like to field that one.

Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (ShdUd)

164 136

Ok. Football fan pissed about Brady's phone and SIM card being destroyed after he asked for them

At which point I said. "Are you as upset about Hillary Clinton deleting two months of emails on her private server in the run up to Benghazi? Which one bothers you more? A coverup of deflated footballs or Benghazi? "

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (zOTsN)

I look at it this way. Brady deserves his suspension. Hillary should be in jail.

So yeah Benghazi definitely bothers me more.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (zt+N6)

165 Hotdog overload.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (Maary)

maybe he put ketchup on a hotdog and some hobos beat him up for being unamerican.

never know.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (AkOaV)

166 The NFL spent months and millions of dollars to tell us bupkis. What/When/Where/Who/If balls were tampered with is never answered by their worthless Wells Report. Brady will win in Court.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (2cS/G)

167 Fun fact: The law requires the bank to be closing up shop but in typical Obama fashion the head of the bank has said, nah.

-
Testifying before congress yesterday Horseface was asked whether he would obey the law if congress refused to acquiesce to the Iran deal. He refused to say he would saying only that he would consult with President False Prophet.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (XUKZU)

168 Who cares about Brady. It was a way to remind LIV about the perfidy of Clinton in terms they could understand

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:36 AM (zOTsN)

169 144 when ace disappears and no one talks about it its probably legal business. Which it probably is. But no one can talk about it.
Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ocf1)

Yeah, that's what I figured too. Which is why I haven't joined in the chorus of "Ace? Where's ace?"

When he does vanish for bit because he needs a break, he's not shy about letting us know. And if something terrible happened to him, like injuries sustained during a knife fight with a hobo, the cobs would tell us.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 29, 2015 10:36 AM (u0lmX)

170 Well MyNewHandle I was thinking of attending the NoVaMoMee and if had, then yes you would have seen Ace and me in the same room.

*wavies to MPPP4* Got an edit done to short novel, should get back to slaving over hot word processor. Also set up on Goodreads. So progress? How you doing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:36 AM (7Eo8i)

171 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:36 AM (7Eo8i)

heh.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:37 AM (AkOaV)

172 Does ace make it up to nova for the meet ups?

That's kind of a hike.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:37 AM (AkOaV)

173 Ace and Allahpundit are driving to Iowa in a beat-up '92 F-150 in order to gauge the feelings of average Americans in the first primary state.

Or else they want to get their bacon at the source. Not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 29, 2015 10:37 AM (RD7QR)

174 they will suddenly become more pliable if Jeb! is in the White House? Of course not. They will double down on their demands and obstruction.

The way to deal with the left is to treat them like spoiled children and deny them everything they want. A damn good thrashing every now and then would also work

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (OE2ur)

175 Wonder if shoeless Joe Jackson or Pete Rose would like to field that one.
Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (ShdUd)

Is Pete out of jail yet?

Posted by: Holliday Inn at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (wkuqO)

176 156 @ 149 - "My theory on Ace's disappearance.....Raptor attack."

Hotdog overload.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (Maary)

*********
Three days of recuperation and peeing blue after the metal q-tip of love.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (vgIRn)

177 173 Ace and Allahpundit are driving to Iowa in a beat-up '92 F-150 in order to gauge the feelings of average Americans in the first primary state.

Or else they want to get their bacon at the source. Not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 29, 2015 10:37 AM (RD7QR)

Yep! Aint nothin' like cruisin' the country in my F150, just like the regular folk.

Posted by: Hillary! at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (AkOaV)

178 Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (GpgJl)

That was Gabe.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (Zu3d9)

179 *waves at MP4*

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Joker Money Pile Being Hit By SMOD at July 29, 2015 10:33 AM (mf5HN)

**bows deeply to the Imperial Presence**Sorry I haven't been around. Work / personal BS. I explained in the Vic News thread.

I hope you and Bandersnatch and Eris had a great time at Gettysburg. Did you manage to grab a drink at the Farnsworth House?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (zF6Iw)

180 155 Anna Puma

Spruance was the better warrior, Chief of Staff, commander, and much the better mariner over Halsey. Spruance was not better at PR and inspire the troops leadership over Halsey.

Halsey had a large undisciplined staff, while Spruance had a small tight group of heavy-hitters.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (u82oZ)

181 Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ocf1)

Exchange I just had with a cob on Twitter makes me believe that is the case. And apparently I *can't* say anymore (he asked me to delete a tweet I had tried very hard to have be completely innocuous).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (GDulk)

182 Posted by: CheChe v.15.1 at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (3ZtZW)

Beautiful.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (/kI1Q)

183 A coverup of deflated footballs

-
I agree that the number one problem in the country today is not big enough balls.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:39 AM (XUKZU)

184 The way to deal with the left is to treat them like spoiled children and deny them everything they want. A damn good thrashing every now and then would also work

Posted by: TheQuietMan

Are you implying there are ways *other* than a thrashing to deal with spoiled children?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:39 AM (VAsIq)

185 Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (GpgJl)

I dont but I thought Gabe accepted an award on behalf of the ewok?

Posted by: Hillary! at July 29, 2015 10:39 AM (AkOaV)

186 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (GDulk)

Okay, then we shall cease speaking of it.

The story is: ace is in jail for hobo hunting without a permit, drunk, without pants.

Posted by: Hillary! at July 29, 2015 10:40 AM (AkOaV)

187 could swear I took that Hillary sock off.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:40 AM (AkOaV)

188 Are you implying there are ways *other* than a thrashing to deal with spoiled children?

One word: Duct tape.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:40 AM (fPIAw)

189 Ace was at CPAC but it wasn't two years ago. Probably closer to 4. Maybe longer.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:40 AM (zt+N6)

190 134

I thought the joke was that they were the same person, not that we were shipping the two.

Posted by: joe at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (KUaJL)

191 Was Cecil taken down by a longbow or crossbow?

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (UzPAd)

192 I would play naked quarterback to Gisele's naked center.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (VcOqI)

193
One of the more dumb changes - Luke and Leia trying to cross that chasm, Leia's blaster now sounds different than every other Stormtrooper blaster.

Posted by: Anna Puma

And that terrible echo! Ugh.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM (VAsIq)

What irritates me even more is that Lucas WaddleNeck didn't fix any of the actual mistakes or less-than-stellar special effects. The big one is the lightsabers in the final duel between Obi Wan and Vader. In several shots, the lighting changes so you see that they're dueling with broomsticks. Lucas never cleaned that up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (BcfrM)

194 191 Was Cecil taken down by a longbow or crossbow?
Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (UzPAd)

he was only wounded by the bow originally and not killed, so I'm going with crossbow.

Long bow wouldda killed him.

:-D

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (AkOaV)

195 A dentist from Minnesota is now the Most. Hated. Man. Ever. for hunting.
His Yelp account has been destroyed in the usual SJW manner, his physical office has been littered with notes and stuffed animals, his Facebook page taken down....
Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel cried over the lion, while spoofing on the now famous hunter, implying ED or some sexual perversion involved with hunting, blah blah.

Not one word about "fetus" material that's close enough to being human as to be sold as such.
Save me the crocodile tears.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 29, 2015 10:42 AM (XmOA9)

196 172 Does ace make it up to nova for the meet ups?

That's kind of a hike.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:37 AM (AkOaV)

Amtrak Acela express!! Joe Biden can tell you all about it!

There used to be a great NY Air DC-NYC shuttle service in the 1980's. They served "the Flying Nosh" lox and bagels on the shuttle. It sometimes took longer to get from LaGuardia to Lower Manhattan than it did to fly from DC to NY.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 29, 2015 10:42 AM (u0lmX)

197 191 Was Cecil taken down by a longbow or crossbow?
Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (UzPAd)

It was the arrow, most likely from a compound bow.

Posted by: I wasn't there either at July 29, 2015 10:42 AM (wkuqO)

198

While standing in line at the local DMV yesterday, I saw something furry holding up the head of the line.

Then, I heard the clerk from behind the counter "Why do you want to change your name to Paolo?"

It was at that point that I knew.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (qCMvj)

199
Did you manage to grab a drink at the Farnsworth House?

We did not. There's a trip report at #88 in yesterday's art thread.

She did find a fabulous Irish pub with the most authentic fry this side of the pond. (Black and white pudding (blood sausage), bangers, a rasher of bacon, egg, tomato, and homemade soda bread).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

200 I took a call from some RNC phone bank money begging lackey about a month ago, spouting all the "accomplishments", and the need for my cash to stop the Obama. I carved it up and threw it back at him; he was undeterred: "Well, how about $50, then?"

I said, "Dude, send me a bag of whatever you're smoking and I'll give you $50 bucks. Otherwise, fuck off and remove me from your list."

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (yn6XZ)

201 So yeah Benghazi definitely bothers me more.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:35 AM

At most, Brady rides the pine for four games (at, probably, full pay). Shrillery keeps rakin' in teh fat speaking fees and has a better-than-she-deserves chance to kill even more Americans, lie, distort and cheat.

It ain't fair.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (rCmeG)

202 Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 29, 2015 10:42 AM (XmOA9)

I will say this: I do find it weird.

Paying $50k, flying to Zimbabwe and shooting a huge lion.

Just so you can have a lion head in your house.

Not saying it should be criminal, and I'm sure Zimbabwe needs the hard currency, but uh... I can't ever picture myself waking up and saying "you know what I want to do? Murder a large, semi endangered animal and put its head on my wall."

Now waking up and saying "I want some delicious deer, and I'll keep the head as a trophy" seems totally different to me.

Maybe it's not. I don't know.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV)

203
155 Anna Puma

Spruance was the better warrior, Chief of Staff, commander, and much the better mariner over Halsey. Spruance was not better at PR and inspire the troops leadership over Halsey.

Halsey had a large undisciplined staff, while Spruance had a small tight group of heavy-hitters.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (u82oZ)

Halsey acted stupidly.

Posted by: Marko Ramius at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (BcfrM)

204 Long bow wouldda killed him.

:-D

Posted by: mynewhandle

Ooohhhhh!
*clears space in center for battle royale*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (VAsIq)

205 15
I guess Rick Wilson didn't like the painting...

Posted by: Big McLargehuge Mk I at July 29, 2015 09:58 AM (u9OP6)

for the win

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (0O7c5)

206 Halsey did have a few handicaps, himself and Miles Browning.

IllTemepredCur tis worse than that. For example when Luke first uses the lightsabre, it changes color depending upon which edition you watch. While the scene you are talking about, in later editions they do cover the sticks.

https://youtu.be/uvbrVFP_f0w

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:45 AM (7Eo8i)

207 What irritates me even more is that Lucas WaddleNeck didn't fix any of the actual mistakes or less-than-stellar special effects. The big one is the lightsabers in the final duel between Obi Wan and Vader. In several shots, the lighting changes so you see that they're dueling with broomsticks. Lucas never cleaned that up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:41 AM (BcfrM)

Actually if you watch the original and then the special editions, I'm pretty sure that they did attempt to clean it up.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:45 AM (zt+N6)

208 The lion thing is about getting Planned Baby Blenderizing off the front page.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:46 AM (wfznB)

209 178
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (GpgJl)

That was Gabe.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:38 AM (Zu3d9)

No I have seen Ace's pic at the CPAC at least one year. It wasn't Gabe, it was actually captioned.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:46 AM (GpgJl)

210 She did find a FABULOUS ...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

First warning.

Posted by: Man Card Enforcement Agent at July 29, 2015 10:46 AM (vgIRn)

211 185
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:27 AM (GpgJl)

I dont but I thought Gabe accepted an award on behalf of the ewok?

Posted by: Hillary! at July 29, 2015 10:39 AM (AkOaV)

He was a "presenter" at this one.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:47 AM (GpgJl)

212 There was one lion I wouldn't have minded shooting and mounting its head on wall.

Posted by: Referencing Ted Kennedy, "Lion of the Senate" at July 29, 2015 10:47 AM (VAsIq)

213 What kind of addled dink gives the name "Cecil" to a lion?

We have to stop romanticizing things that would love to kill and eat us.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (wfznB)

214 208 The lion thing is about getting Planned Baby Blenderizing off the front page.
Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:46 AM (wfznB)

Of course. Just as "Deflategate" is meant to deflect attention from the much more serious problem of corruption in government.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (u0lmX)

215 Drew: Forget about rational argument. That presupposes there's rational people to listen to it.

The ones who are rational don't need it and the ones who aren't?

Well let's look at today; Thousands outraged because some dentist killed some flea bitten Pride Male who's life expectancy was in decades if not less while the story of 55 million babies (mostly minority btw) being chopped up for resale to ghouls goes unremarked.

The human race (on average/overall) doesn't deserve the place it has and it certainly isn't performing to it's promise.

Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (x3GpS)

216 Bangers, rasher of bacon... *wipes chin*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (7Eo8i)

217
Actually if you watch the original and then the special editions, I'm pretty sure that they did attempt to clean it up.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:45 AM (zt+N6)

I dunno. I've watched the special editions several times and I see broomsticks. Not in every shot in the duel, but several times.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (BcfrM)

218 She did find a fabulous Irish pub with the most authentic fry this side of the pond. (Black and white pudding (blood sausage), bangers, a rasher of bacon, egg, tomato, and homemade soda bread).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

There is a place across the street form the Gettysburg Hotel famous for their cakes. When you ask for a slice of cake you get basically half a normal size cake for your slice. My wife and me could hardly finish a slice of cake there between us.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (sgrzZ)

219 189
Ace was at CPAC but it wasn't two years ago. Probably closer to 4. Maybe longer.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:40 AM (zt+N6)

You know how time flies when you are having fun.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (GpgJl)

220 Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV)

The only problem I have with the guy is that they lured Cecil off his protected land with a dead animal on the hood of a car, and then scented a big area to keep him there.... if you want to shoot a lion, at least have the guts to take a wild one on equal ground, not set up one wearing a radio collar and a cute Kitteh Rain Poncho.. (I may have made that last part up)

Oh, and Full Disclosure: I'm not implying I possess said guts to go mano y mano with Mr. Lion.....

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (jjaLl)

221
Posted by: Man Card Enforcement Agent at July 29, 2015 10:46 AM (vgIRn)

Uh huh. I camped (Outside!) with the Empress and Eris.

My man card is platinum.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (JtwS4)

222 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:45 AM (7Eo8i)

I read several months ago that remastered originals were going to be released for Christmas.

I bought what was supposed to be originals (IV, V, VI) a few weeks ago (used, on EBay), and it was the usual Lucas mess of added scenes and crappy sound.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (Zu3d9)

223 Spruance was the better warrior, Chief of Staff, commander, and much the better mariner over Halsey. Spruance was not better at PR and inspire the troops leadership over Halsey.

Halsey had a large undisciplined staff, while Spruance had a small tight group of heavy-hitters.

-
I suspect there is an unwritten law of warfare to the effect that audacity is vital at the start of a war but suicidal when everybody is up and running. Hitler's audacious Blitzkrieg did very well in '39 and '40 and even into '41 but when he tried a similar strike in the Bulge in '44 and '45, the result was sub-optimal. Halsey's audacity was need at Guadalcanal in '42 and '43 but was counter productive in '44 (at Leyte Gulf) and '45 during which he twice launched his fleet unnecessarily into storms and sustained sever losses. Lee's audacious victories on the Peninsula and at Chancellorsville served hi well but failed him at Gettysburg after which he abandon audacity for determination. Audacity is fine while everybody is still learning their jobs but once everyone is awake, it's better to play it safe.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (XUKZU)

224 I dunno. I've watched the special editions several times and I see broomsticks.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

But did you see bedknobs?

Posted by: Angela Lansbury at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (VAsIq)

225 I saw Ace drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's.
His hair was perfect.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (JoIcn)

226 212 There was one lion I wouldn't have minded shooting and mounting its head on wall.
Posted by: Referencing Ted Kennedy, "Lion of the Senate" at July 29, 2015 10:47 AM (VAsIq)

Sorry, but looking at Fat Teddy's red, jowly face would put me off my feed for a week. I'd have to put a paper bag over its' head.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 29, 2015 10:50 AM (u0lmX)

227 Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (jjaLl)

Damned straight!

Posted by: Frances Macomber at July 29, 2015 10:50 AM (Zu3d9)

228 I dunno. I've watched the special editions several times and I see broomsticks. Not in every shot in the duel, but several times.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:48 AM (BcfrM)

I didn't say they were successful.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:50 AM (zt+N6)

229 I dunno. I've watched the special editions several times and I see broomsticks. Not in every shot in the duel, but several times.

Broomsticks just doin' the jobs light sabers refuse to do.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2015 10:50 AM (fPIAw)

230 What kind of addled dink gives the name "Cecil" to a lion?

-
I remember Clarence the Cross-eyed Lion.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:51 AM (XUKZU)

231
I dunno. I've watched the special editions several times and I see broomsticks.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

But did you see bedknobs?

Posted by: Angela Lansbury at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (VAsIq)

Heh.

I was trying to come up with an Angela Lansbury joke before making that comment and couldn't make it work.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2015 10:51 AM (BcfrM)

232 Ace was at CPAC but it wasn't two years ago. Probably closer to 4. Maybe longer.

more like 2007 or 2008

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 29, 2015 10:51 AM (ZQfW9)

233 202 Not saying it should be criminal, and I'm sure
Zimbabwe needs the hard currency, but uh... I can't ever picture myself
waking up and saying "you know what I want to do? Murder a large, semi
endangered animal and put its head on my wall."

Now waking up and saying "I want some delicious deer, and I'll keep the head as a trophy" seems totally different to me.

Maybe it's not. I don't know.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 29, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV)

In this case it WAS criminal because he lured the lion off a protected site to a non-protected site where he could shoot him. According to the article I read Zimbabwe is looking for this guy to prosecute him.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:51 AM (GpgJl)

234 As the video notes, only in close-up shots does Leia's blaster sound like a boomstick, wide shots it sounds like all the other blasters. They say consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, but considering how much time and money Lucas has wasted 'fixing' things...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:52 AM (7Eo8i)

235 >>>
What kind of addled dink gives the name "Cecil" to a lion?
<<<

They named him after Cecil Rhodes, an alleged homosexual from the 19th century. Basically, this guy invented "blood diamonds."

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:52 AM (UzPAd)

236 Sorry, but looking at Fat Teddy's red, jowly face would put me off my feed for a week. I'd have to put a paper bag over its' head.

Posted by: Donna V

Oh, I wouldn't mount it on *my* wall. It would go on the wall of the Senate, to remind those bastards there are consequences.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:53 AM (VAsIq)

237 222 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:45 AM (7Eo8i)

I read several months ago that remastered originals were going to be released for Christmas.

I bought what was supposed to be originals (IV, V, VI) a few weeks ago (used, on EBay), and it was the usual Lucas mess of added scenes and crappy sound.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM (Zu3d9)

The original theatrical releases (well the laser disc versions of the original theatrical releases) were released on DVD several years ago. However they weren't on the main discs. They were on the bonus discs and it wasn't released as a package. They were each individual movie.

They're sitting on my shelf right now.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 10:53 AM (zt+N6)

238 Audacity is fine while everybody is still learning their jobs but once everyone is awake, it's better to play it safe.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:49 AM

More than that, audacity is fine when you have the materiel to back it up. Uncle Adi's first blitzkrieg forays were backed by a shit-ton of supplies, ammo and gasoline. At the Bulge, not so much.

I suspect Lee was in a similar situation at the end of the Great Unpleasantness.

Any effort to write military checks you can't cash is likely foredoomed. But as long as he has the backup, the audacious guy wins.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2015 10:54 AM (rCmeG)

239 They named him after Cecil Rhodes, an alleged homosexual from the 19th century. Basically, this guy invented "blood diamonds."

Posted by: Fritz

So...justified?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:54 AM (VAsIq)

240 Boehner, we've traced the call and it's coming from inside the house!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 29, 2015 10:55 AM (XUKZU)

241
If trying to show that they can be bipartrisan really is Mitch's strategy, he's an even bigger idiot than we thought.
The LSM will make sure they never get credit and are branded obstructionists no matter what.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 29, 2015 10:55 AM (jtStN)

242 Rhodes was an unreconstructed imperialist. I don't know anything about his sexual activity.

Giving names to anything but dogs and cats is a symptom of neurosis.

Speaking of broomsticks, here's an article on ugly femenists: http://tinyurl.com/o9kttyh

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:55 AM (wfznB)

243 Boehner, we've traced the call and it's coming from inside the house!

Posted by: The Great White Snark

THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 29, 2015 10:55 AM (VAsIq)

244 They named him after Cecil Rhodes, an alleged homosexual from the 19th century. Basically, this guy invented "blood diamonds."

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:52 AM (UzPAd)

Killed the Boers to get at the diamonds. The Boers were a little hard on the Brit's military in the process too. More women and children died in the concentration camps than fighters.

Posted by: I wasn't there either at July 29, 2015 10:55 AM (wkuqO)

245 He lured him off

A dentist from Minnesota did this all himself. Got the truck. Baited it. Found Cecil. Made the unprotected area smell like dead beast. No help doing this from locals at all. Really?

Pretty sure he had the help of a lot of locals. Turns out the 91 year old former ruler of Zimbabwe celebrated his birthday eating a semi endangered elephant.

Pretty sure the rules change depending on the cash to be extracted

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

246 And horses. Horse names are fine.

I have spoken.

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:56 AM (wfznB)

247 nood

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 10:56 AM (GpgJl)

248 Halsey at the end of '42 did not have the material to back up his audacity. When USS Washington under the command of Admiral 'Ching' Lee with USS South Dakota were dispatched by Halsey to meet IJN Kirishima only four destroyers could be spared. And Halsey was flying his flag from one of only two US fleet carriers left in the Pacific.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (7Eo8i)

249 223 The Great White Snark

+ 6.022 x 10^23.

Have fun, and don't get trapped in a disappearing thread.

Anna Puma, good luck with the writing.

TTFN

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (u82oZ)

250 "I've seen Ace. He's trim, probably about 5'7 or so...."
---------------
Hah! Have you seen him since he quit smoking?!?
Tribble City, my friend.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (cN9Sk)

251 I will say this: I do find it weird.

Paying $50k, flying to Zimbabwe and shooting a huge lion.

Just so you can have a lion head in your house.
mynewhandle

What he did is something he thought was legal, and he did pay big money for the privilege. He had permits, and the requisite guides, etc. If they did something wrong, it's probably not on him to know it.

As to his motivation for being a "trophy" hunter, I don't get it. There are pictures of him with leopards, a rhino, polar bear, etc. All shot with bow. He's no coward.
Maybe he's busy being Earnest Hemingway.

Eat what you kill, my general rule for hunting.
YMMV

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (XmOA9)

252 She did find a fabulous Irish pub with the most authentic fry this side of the pond. (Black and white pudding (blood sausage), bangers, a rasher of bacon, egg, tomato, and homemade soda bread).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

The Garryowen on Chambersburg? That's a great little place. I've sunk many a pint of Guinness there. I'm glad you enjoyed the horseback tour; it's really the best way to go, for my money. Perhaps next year, if things are better personally and employment-wise for me, I'll be able to join you.

Two lovely pairs of DDs. Oh, what a lucky man he was.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (zF6Iw)

253 >>>So...justified?<<<

Meh. I have nothing against trophy hunting. If Cecil was somebody's pet they should have done a better job of keeping him on the reservation.

Posted by: Fritz at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (UzPAd)

254 "Pretty sure the rules change depending on the cash to be extracted"

-------------------------------------------------------------
Thread winner here. Well said.

Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 10:58 AM (ShdUd)

255 The Boers were Dutch. They stuck around and became the rulers of South Africa, right?

Posted by: Feh at July 29, 2015 10:59 AM (wfznB)

256 What he did is something he thought was legal, and
he did pay big money for the privilege. He had permits, and the
requisite guides, etc. If they did something wrong, it's probably not
on him to know it.

As to his motivation for being a "trophy" hunter, I don't get it.
There are pictures of him with leopards, a rhino, polar bear, etc. All
shot with bow. He's no coward.

Maybe he's busy being Earnest Hemingway.

Eat what you kill, my general rule for hunting.

YMMV

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 29, 2015 10:57 AM (XmOA9)

He had to know it was illegal to lure the lion off of a protected area.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 29, 2015 11:02 AM (GpgJl)

257 "As to his motivation for being a "trophy" hunter, I don't get it. There are pictures of him with leopards, a rhino, polar bear, etc. All shot with bow. He's no coward."
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Honest question. During these hunts you posted was he protected by a modern high powered rifle able to knock down the "trophy" if he was endangered. If your answer to this is yes then you should retract the "He's no coward" Doesn't take balls to hunt these animals if you face no danger. At that point why not just go to the zoo.

Posted by: OTB at July 29, 2015 11:02 AM (ShdUd)

258
I heard a rumor (that I'm starting now) that CAC and Ace had a duel and Ace is nursing his injuries.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, twelve-time Top Commenter at July 29, 2015 11:03 AM (L0kit)

259 Nood, Ace confirming theory.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2015 11:04 AM (9lwYK)

260 CBD, if you're still here this is the cover of the DVD box if you want to get the original theatrical release. But remember its on Disc 2! So never accept a Disc 1 only.

http://tinypic.com/r/j7yv53/8

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2015 11:05 AM (zt+N6)

261
The Garryowen on Chambersburg?

Prezactly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2015 11:07 AM (JtwS4)

262 Is there any proof he knew the lion was lured off a protected area? Pretty sure the locals knew

Posted by: ThunderB at July 29, 2015 11:19 AM (zOTsN)

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