Red State vs. Blue State: The Real Data [CBD]

Here's an interesting article from The Federalist about the skewing of poverty measures. Most of us around these parts laugh at government data, but this is a nice little debunking of the myth that Red states are poorer.....America's Future: California or Texas

The familiar official measure is more than 50 years old, and is showing its age. It has two huge shortcomings: it considers the cost of living to be the same in the 48 contiguous states (a patently ridiculous proposition when considering that the average rent in San Francisco in the first quarter of 2015 was $3,458 vs. $867 in Houston), and it doesn't account for in-kind benefits, such as Section Eight housing subsidies and Electronic Benefit Transfer cards (food stamps).
Thus, the federal governmen's main poverty gauge undercounts material poverty levels in high-cost states such as California, New York, and Hawaii, while over-counting true poverty in much of the low-cost Midwest and South.

As Ace says, "read the whole thing."

Posted by: Open Blogger at 02:01 PM

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1 Somebody better bring Dave's thread back, right the hell now.

(Please)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 26, 2015 02:05 PM (VPLuQ)

2 Anyone that lives in the South knows this; especially those of us that have also lived in Cali.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 26, 2015 02:05 PM (nL0sw)

3 Don't confuse me with the, um, those things... what're they called? Yeah, facts.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at July 26, 2015 02:06 PM (wKcQA)

4 What happened to Weird Dave's thread about Trump?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:06 PM (wKc1L)

5 WTH??

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:07 PM (rwI+c)

6 CBD

Did you ensmallin the last thread by accident?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 26, 2015 02:07 PM (VPLuQ)

7 Enstomped.

Posted by: Zombie Ruby Begonia at July 26, 2015 02:07 PM (Dwehj)

8 Somebody better bring Dave's thread back, right the hell now.
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Ditto this... I was reading, hit comments and poof gonzo. WTF!

Fuck disappearing posts in particular!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at July 26, 2015 02:07 PM (MbrzC)

9
Endisappeared.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (ODxAs)

10 #7: That's what happens when you let the Devil make you buy that dress.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (wKc1L)

11 Fucking wormholes!

Get those phase compensators back on line!

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (MQEz6)

12 I find myself afeared of becoming one of those people who moves out of a blue shithole and starts effing stuff up in my new place. Specifically, it's come to our attention that there is no community recycling program here.

It's so tempting to think, "Well, OK, just that one thing should be done, and it will be a little better. Just that one thing."

But that's how it begins, doesn't it?

Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (c/Ipt)

13 I'll just keep commenting over there for the lulz.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (rwI+c)

14 "Enstomped. "

Nah, enstompened, you at least have the old thread under the new one.

This is like engonended.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 26, 2015 02:09 PM (VPLuQ)

15
Not the first time a Dave thread got mysteriously deleted.

Time for a quick spin QIT to find the root cause.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 02:09 PM (kdS6q)

16 We're on it.

Posted by: Mulder & Scully at July 26, 2015 02:09 PM (rVQpn)

17 Recycling programs cost more money than they save.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:10 PM (rwI+c)

18 Envaporized.

Posted by: Zombie Ruby Begonia at July 26, 2015 02:10 PM (Dwehj)

19 What happened??

Posted by: lindafell de Spair at July 26, 2015 02:10 PM (xVgrA)

20 I got it.

That really was The Donald commenting.

And he bought the Blog from Ace.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 26, 2015 02:11 PM (VPLuQ)

21 Not for nothing, but when Albert Pujols signed a huge $210 million deal with the Californica Angels (yeah, I'm not calling them Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Sue me), it was pointed out that with taxes, that $210 million was roughly equivalent to about $140 million, had he chosen to stay in Missouri.

Oh well. Enjoy your taxes, Albert.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:11 PM (Dj0WE)

22 But that's how it begins, doesn't it?
Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2015 02:08 PM (c/Ipt)

Yep. Everyone has their one thing. Added up it spells Chicago or Detroit eventually.

I've even seen a "Conservative" commenter here say that they support Universal Healthcare as their one thing.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 26, 2015 02:11 PM (cygkw)

23 "read the whole thing."

You aren't the boss of me!!!

Posted by: Y-not at July 26, 2015 02:11 PM (RWGcK)

24 Recycling programs cost more money than they save.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Penn & Teller did an episode of Bullshit! debunking recycling. Surprise, it's only worth recycling the things they pay you for.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 02:12 PM (rVQpn)

25 Not for nothing, but when Albert Pujols signed a huge $210 million deal with the Californica Angels (yeah, I'm not calling them Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Sue me), it was pointed out that with taxes, that $210 million was roughly equivalent to about $140 million, had he chosen to stay in Missouri.

Oh well. Enjoy your taxes, Albert.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:11 PM (Dj0WE)

Oops! I meant taxes AND cost of living.

Same difference. Two sides of the same coin (literally).

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:12 PM (Dj0WE)

26 An entire thread does not simply... disappear.

Posted by: Weasel at July 26, 2015 02:14 PM (e3bId)

27 Recycling is a religious act that costs everyone money.

Message to the Lefties:

The most natural way to recycle things here on Earth is to cumbust them.

Carbon plus oxygen yields carbon dioxide, aka plant food.

I like plants, so does Gaia; why do you hate them?

Do you hate Gaia?

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:14 PM (MQEz6)

28 Recycling programs cost more money than they save.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Penn & Teller did an episode of Bullshit! debunking recycling. Surprise, it's only worth recycling the things they pay you for.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 02:12 PM (rVQpn)

Yup. Recycling has nothing to do with the environment. Further surprise! I has EVERYTHING to do with me feeling good about myself for "doing something" about the environment.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:14 PM (Dj0WE)

29
I don't recycle. The neighbors across the street do and their trash company collects the trash then sends the truck for recycling. Its the same truck, they just drive around the block and throw it in with the previous trash. They still haven't figured it out, and they pay extra to "recycle".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 02:15 PM (ODxAs)

30 ***BURP***

Behold! The power of the witch!

Tasty little thread about Trump, I must say!

Posted by: Hillary! at July 26, 2015 02:15 PM (9JjQ2)

31 "An entire thread does not simply... disappear."

It's possible

Posted by: USS Eldridge at July 26, 2015 02:15 PM (VPLuQ)

32 An entire thread does not simply... disappear.
Posted by: Weasel at July 26, 2015 02:14 PM (e3bId)

THAT'S NOT A MOON!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:16 PM (Dj0WE)

33 I guess the GOPe really is powerful.

They made Dave's entire post disappear. Along with my brilliant and noteworthy comments.

Especially, my brilliant and noteworthy comments.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 02:16 PM (ehIKU)

34 VtheK,

Why would you want recycling programs?

There is:

1) Zero scientific basis for them

2) more energy is consumed by them than saved.

3) no net money saving by such programs

4) Plus, they are generally huge graft-portholes to the connected.

Be at peace - you've fled illusion and now live in an enlightened land.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2015 02:16 PM (KUa85)

35 One does not simply walk in to post 358078.

Posted by: Boromir at July 26, 2015 02:16 PM (EzgxV)

36 I can't remember who posted the "how much $100 is worth" link. It was an interesting COLA illustration. http://tinyurl.com/plqh7ax

Posted by: no good deed at July 26, 2015 02:16 PM (GgxVX)

37 We may have found the actual limit to the #times Morons can type "fuck" on a thread.

I'm proud to be a part of it if so.

Posted by: DaveA at July 26, 2015 02:17 PM (DL2i+)

38 There was no WeirdDave post.

And there never has been.

Posted by: Hypno-Jeb! at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (KUa85)

39 In some other universe Dave's post is still posted, but the commenters are all wearing pants.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (MQEz6)

40
A little off topic but who knows if this thread will last, but Bruce Campbell will be playing Ronald Reagan in season two of Fargo.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (iQIUe)

41 I don't recycle. The neighbors across the street do and their trash company collects the trash then sends the truck for recycling. Its the same truck, they just drive around the block and throw it in with the previous trash. They still haven't figured it out, and they pay extra to "recycle".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 02:15 PM (ODxAs)

Around here, we don't have a choice (paying for it, I mean). So I take cardboard boxes and soda cans, fill up the recycle bin, and let them take both, wherever they please, I don't care where. It's less work for me, and rips my trashbags less. Otherwise, I would not bother separating.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (Dj0WE)

42 If I was literate, I would have begun this sentence with "If I were literate."

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at July 26, 2015 02:19 PM (wKcQA)

43 We may have found the actual limit to the #times Morons can type "fuck" on a thread.

I'm proud to be a part of it if so.
Posted by: DaveA at July 26, 2015 02:17 PM (DL2i+)

*****

"Fucki" though is like totes cool, amirite?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 26, 2015 02:19 PM (cygkw)

44
What happened??
Posted by: lindafell de Spair

https://youtu.be/FHmRTh9eHp4?t=41m51s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (kdS6q)

45 Dave's post got recycled.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (MQEz6)

46 A little off topic but who knows if this thread will last, but Bruce Campbell will be playing Ronald Reagan in season two of Fargo.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (iQIUe)

Should be fun! We know one thing now though: Season 2 of Fargo could not possibly be worse than Season 2 of True Detective. Not. Possible.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (Dj0WE)

47
I will build a yuuuuge wall to stop the disappearance of threads that talk about me.

Posted by: Donald Trump at July 26, 2015 02:21 PM (ODxAs)

48 "Fucki" though is like totes cool, amirite?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise

The iFuck is expected next fall. It will be a revolution.

Posted by: Tim Cook at July 26, 2015 02:21 PM (rVQpn)

49 Oops! Wrong server!

Sorry guys, I was meaning to download some stuff from another server and to delete the activities log there instead of killing WeirdDave's thread.

I'll be more careful next time!

Posted by: Wang, the Chinese System Admin with Root Priviliges at July 26, 2015 02:21 PM (9JjQ2)

50 There are physical laws governing threads which science does not yet understand.

Posted by: Weasel at July 26, 2015 02:22 PM (e3bId)

51 Was it pulled just because it was rather pointed towards Rick Wilson?

Posted by: Dave S. at July 26, 2015 02:22 PM (mhkbv)

52

Great thread Dave!

Posted by: The Crew of The Mary Celeste

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 02:23 PM (kdS6q)

53 That post is in Heaven now.

It is dancing with lace wigs and machines for sale.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:23 PM (MQEz6)

54 We have three types of bins -- black, for trash; blue, for miscellaneous recyclables (cardboard, glass, plastics); and green, for compostable yard trimmings. I'm pretty sure the distinction between blue and black is bullshit, but we actually used several yards of compost from the city-run program when we first bought the house.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 26, 2015 02:24 PM (EzgxV)

55 Rick Wilson's all like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

And I'm all like (NSFW)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIOrQasR18

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:24 PM (wKc1L)

56 46 A little off topic but who knows if this thread will last, but Bruce Campbell will be playing Ronald Reagan in season two of Fargo.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (iQIUe)

Should be fun! We know one thing now though: Season 2 of Fargo could not possibly be worse than Season 2 of True Detective. Not. Possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (Dj0WE)

===========
I've watched one episode and recorded the rest to try to watch it later. Dont think it is worth the space on my drive. What were they thinking???

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 26, 2015 02:24 PM (iQIUe)

57 "An entire thread does not simply... disappear."

It may come back. It's happened before.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 02:25 PM (cbMSM)

58 I thought that post went to live on the farm so it could run with all of its post-friends.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 02:25 PM (rVQpn)

59 Let us summon Rick Wilson.

Rick Wilson.

Rick Wilson.

Rick Wilson.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:25 PM (MQEz6)

60 WTF? Get back from picking up the kids and find a whole thread has been kidnapped. And it was good too. Nuts.

Posted by: Agent J at July 26, 2015 02:25 PM (ueOgE)

61 What kind of fuckery is this?

Posted by: zombie amy winehuse, who had something pithy to say about trump at July 26, 2015 02:26 PM (wKcQA)

62 What the hell happened to Weird Daves post. Damn it was spot on and one of the best this year.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at July 26, 2015 02:26 PM (baCne)

63 Should be fun! We know one thing now though: Season 2 of Fargo could not possibly be worse than Season 2 of True Detective. Not. Possible.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (Dj0WE)

I have a friend in Hollywood and apparently-

Season 2 of True Detective ends with-

Vince Vaughn reading WeirdDave's post.

Oops. sorry for the spoiler.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2015 02:26 PM (KUa85)

64 I only recycle glass and metal; I understood there was actually a fair economic and environmental case for those.

Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2015 02:27 PM (c/Ipt)

65 Here's the bin test from Bullshit!
https://youtu.be/SC3CZBDz7Wg

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 02:27 PM (rVQpn)

66 Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knew many years ago about the differences between places like California or New York, and, say, Texas.

Back around 1991 I was offered an IT job (network) in L.A., at a salary of about $40K a year. This was a fair bit more than what I was earning here (Houston) at the time, so I looked into it. Of course, the first thing I checked was the cost of living out there. What I found out was that rents, food, utilities, insurance, taxes, fuel, all the usual metrics, were way above anything you'd see here in Texas.

In fact, after crunching the numbers I figured that just to break even in terms of the standard of living I had here would require an annual salary out there closer to $70K, which was not going to happen.

Needless to say, I didn't take the job...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at July 26, 2015 02:27 PM (AYY6Y)

67 63 Should be fun! We know one thing now though: Season 2 of Fargo could not possibly be worse than Season 2 of True Detective. Not. Possible.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 26, 2015 02:20 PM (Dj0WE)

I have a friend in Hollywood and apparently-

Season 2 of True Detective ends with-

Vince Vaughn reading WeirdDave's post.

Oops. sorry for the spoiler.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2015 02:26 PM (KUa85)

Spoken backwards like in Twin Peaks?

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:28 PM (MQEz6)

68 Spoken backwards like in Twin Peaks?
Posted by: eman

This suit burns better.

Posted by: Backwards-talking Lisa at July 26, 2015 02:29 PM (rVQpn)

69 "Season 2 of True Detective. "

Didn't see but heard a lot about the first one. Need to buy on DVD or something.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 02:30 PM (cbMSM)

70 Who can catch the smoke of the dead wood burning, or has seen the lost threads from the dark sea returning?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:30 PM (rwI+c)

71 In my menial job making soup, we are told to separate cardboard and plastic from regular trash. So when throwing away a stretch film cardboard roll that still had about 1/4th inch of plastic still rolled on it, a female coworker scolded me for not unrolling the remaining plastic and putting it in the plastic bin.

I'm no mathematician but I would predict that to be about a half hour job, so I just looked at her and said "I did".

Posted by: AC at July 26, 2015 02:32 PM (TzeLs)

72 Dave sold the house. He's moving EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 26, 2015 02:32 PM (uPxUo)

73 Season 2 of True Detective is confusing and pointless.

Posted by: log lady at July 26, 2015 02:32 PM (wKcQA)

74 #41, I do. Out here in TN, we don't have trash pickup out in the county. I throw my trash in the back of my pickup truck and haul it to the dumpster yard at the county dump, which is on my way to work and also has recycling dumpsters. By having some separate recycle bins in the kitchen for glass, plastic bottles, cardboard, and aluminum cans (I sell those for soda money), I fill my kitchen trash can slower and it makes my life a little easier.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at July 26, 2015 02:33 PM (HBvmH)

75 Spoken backwards like in Twin Peaks?
Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:28 PM (MQEz6)

No but two topless midget hookers dance the "Frug"

on either side of him as he reads.

Much like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcrZIK3gqbU

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2015 02:33 PM (KUa85)

76
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at July 26, 2015 02:27 PM (AYY6Y)

I live in the Bay Area and half my pay goes to rent.

There is little margin for error here. If you live too large, by just a little bit, you make zero profit. The lifestyle here pushes you to live large, burn your money for this thing or that food or the newest oh my god so amazing bullshit.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:33 PM (MQEz6)

77 70 Who can catch the smoke of the dead wood burning, or has seen the lost threads from the dark sea returning?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:30 PM (rwI+c)

Lo, the swift Achaeans did stock the ritual fires

With the savory meats of many oxen,

The sanctified smoke reaching to Olympos

As the deadly slayers of men chanted

"Oh Gods of Olympos, high above,

What the fuck happened to Dave's thread?"

Posted by: Zombie Homer (No, the Greek One) at July 26, 2015 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

78 because of the 1980'sness of pixyware, you can still read the lost thread at http://bit.ly/1erdu2J though not the comments.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 02:38 PM (rwI+c)

79 Par for the course. Look at the ridiculous calculations for unemployment.

Posted by: Clarney at July 26, 2015 02:38 PM (W+Wy7)

80 That's an enstompenning with prejudice.

Posted by: TJ Camper at July 26, 2015 02:39 PM (jvzQQ)

81 Glad I read that awesome thread earlier 'cause I come back now and poof eet's gone.

Posted by: Corona at July 26, 2015 02:39 PM (z0eI0)

82 It has two huge shortcomings: it considers the cost of living to be the same in the 48 contiguous states

That explains more than just a few things. The fun part, for the sadist, is attempting to explain that to the smug, half-functional LIbEral bloviating about the wonders of his, or hers, religion.

The bad part is the headache you get and the fact that the light bulb just never seems to come on.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at July 26, 2015 02:39 PM (zwFcC)

83 Where is the "Fooki! Fooki!" thread?

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at July 26, 2015 02:40 PM (NqQAS)

84 Tholian ships are building a web around Dave's thread.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:41 PM (MQEz6)

85 Oh, here's a little addendum to my comment at #55.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump is all like (also NSFW)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6Ddd6eRqM

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:42 PM (wKc1L)

86 The bad part is the headache you get and the fact that the light bulb just never seems to come on.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain

That, and the fact that when the prog wakes up tomorrow the lesson you learned them will have joined Dave's post in the aether.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 02:43 PM (rVQpn)

87 Since the Dave thread got zapped I will leave this here. The GoPe elite are gonna shit their collective drawers when all those LIV voters mark Trump on their open primary ballots.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2015 02:44 PM (eEWqL)

88 As Ace says, "read the whole thing."

----

And as I (and other very lazy people say), "Nah, I think I got it."

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 02:45 PM (VAsIq)

89 WeirdDave's post is getting more and more topical each passing minute. McConnell is giving the base the tease on Planned Parenthood.

I don't think Rick Wilson is a bad guy. I think he just happened to write the argument that was taken on directly. WeirdDave's counter was important, even if directly targeted at Rick.

Posted by: Dave S. at July 26, 2015 02:46 PM (mhkbv)

90 In Soviet California...Welfare on you...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 26, 2015 02:46 PM (hCdMd)

91 Trump walked up to the microphone and said America is being raped.

Pay attention to the responses.

They are very revealing.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:47 PM (MQEz6)

92 I once spoke with a guy high up in a waste management company who said that automated sorting technology is so good that you don't have to separate anything - and besides, they scan all the stuff anyway.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 26, 2015 02:47 PM (/WPPJ)

93 Fucking wormholes!

Posted by: eman

That sounds like a terrible idea.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 02:48 PM (VAsIq)

94 Red States...Blue States...we need a new color.

Brown States...as in shit hole states.

California...New York....Connecticut...Massachusetts....New Jersey....Oregon...oh I guess we can just change the "Red" states to brown as they all have that in common.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 26, 2015 02:48 PM (JG47A)

95 Does Weirddave know his post has been sent to the zone of pain and darkness?

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:51 PM (MQEz6)

96 79
Par for the course. Look at the ridiculous calculations for unemployment.

Posted by: Clarney at July 26, 2015 02:38 PM (W+Wy7)

Unemployment's down under Dear Leader, racist!!!!

Posted by: LIV at July 26, 2015 02:51 PM (yxw0r)

97 What happened to Weird Dave's thread about Trump?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:06 PM (wKc1L)

So it appears that "the internet never forgets" is not true.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 26, 2015 02:53 PM (NaeCR)

98 Unemployment's down under Dear Leader, racist!!!!

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 26, 2015 02:54 PM (hCdMd)

99 Unemployment's down under (racist) Dear Leader, ~~racist!!!!~~

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 26, 2015 02:55 PM (hCdMd)

100 I got back in from mowing the lawn and had Weirddave's post open. I read some comments, refreshed, and poof!

Did the comments take an ugly turn or something?

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2015 02:56 PM (sdi6R)

101 Don't recycle your Al and Fe. Save and take to a metal recycler. They give you money and you are sticking it to the (recycling) man. He get doodly.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 26, 2015 02:56 PM (uPxUo)

102 Well, since the Earth likely is going to cool down a bit, Texas will have milder Summers.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:57 PM (MQEz6)

103 Red States...Blue States...we need a new color.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

"Red" works for Oklahoma.

Stupid red clay.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 02:57 PM (VAsIq)

104 97 What happened to Weird Dave's thread about Trump?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 02:06 PM (wKc1L)

So it appears that "the internet never forgets" is not true.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 26, 2015 02:53 PM (NaeCR)

++++

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/358078.php

Comments thread is gone, though.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2015 02:59 PM (IN7k+)

105 "He get doodly."

He get doodly only for that extra metal. He get plenty from which ever taxing body is paying for the recycling.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 26, 2015 02:59 PM (XAz3D)

106 Red States...Blue States...we need a new color.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

"Red" works for Oklahoma.

Stupid red clay.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson

And Alabama with their red mud, amirite.

Posted by: Vincent LaGuardia Gambini at July 26, 2015 03:00 PM (rVQpn)

107 #106: Well, they do call Alabama the Crimson Tide, so... call me Deacon Blues.

Posted by: Steely Dan at July 26, 2015 03:03 PM (wKc1L)

108 Weirddave's thread's not here man.

Posted by: Cheech and Chong at July 26, 2015 03:04 PM (E8dHR)

109
And now some anonymous cocksucker is deleting my comments.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 26, 2015 03:04 PM (WsBWD)

110
Kudos to the Horde. One of the funniest things one can find anywhere is a comment thread commenting on things like the disappearance of WD's Trump post. High-larious.

Also, kudos to ace for having (and keeping) a platform/blog that has these bizarre quirks. I love it.

As for recycling, time to stipulate several true things, and realize they're all true at the same time:

* recycling is an irrational and religious thing for the usual suspects (gaia-worshippers, and scientifically/economically illiterate well-meaning people - i.e. NPR listeners)

*some kinds of recycling make normal economic sense; commercial recycling of course has existed since the industrial age began - all a question of the $$

* urban, consumer/mass recycling CAN make economic sense; in some areas like SoCal, the $$$ calculation must include the very pricey cost of landfills - in fact extending the lifespan of existing landfills is a major/primary reason for some recycling here - so in such cases it really *is* economically rational (and doesn't depend, solely, on the market prices of recycled materials)

To me, as with just about everything, recycling can be subject to a cold rational analysis, centered on $$$. No doubt in many markets it makes little sense.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:05 PM (QDnY+)

111 urban, consumer/mass recycling CAN make economic sense; in some areas like SoCal, the $$$ calculation must include the very pricey cost of landfills

Pricey landfills are an artificial concern. There is no shortage of places to put garbage in this country.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:07 PM (rwI+c)

112 WeirdDave's post is spending quality time at the Tree of Woe.

Posted by: butch at July 26, 2015 03:08 PM (HLx1C)

113 No doubt in many markets it makes little sense.

Posted by: rhomboid

I demand curbside recycling because it makes me feel good about myself, without having to drive a quarter mile to drop it in the town recycling dumpster they already maintain.

Posted by: Idiot Liberal in a teeny-tiny town at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (VAsIq)

114 So who's planning on upgrading to W10 this Wednesday?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (rwI+c)

115 Entire posts disappearing? Comments being deleted?

I blame Trump!

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (ehIKU)

116 Has anyone noted any other temporal disturbances? Clocks running backward, that sort of thing?

Posted by: Weasel at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (e3bId)

117 112 WeirdDave's post is spending quality time at the Tree of Woe.
Posted by: butch at July 26, 2015 03:08 PM (HLx1C)

Yeah, I swore I heard him mutter something about the Riddle of Steel.

Posted by: Zombie Homer (No, the Greek One) at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (RD7QR)

118 Weirddave's post will haunt a Gabe post on Christmas Eve.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 03:10 PM (MQEz6)

119
There are of course small commercially-based recycling outfits all over, in fact there are several chains here in SoCal. Don't believe they get public $$$ (though some complicated yet valid economic analysis might show that in fact public recycling affects their markets such as to make them profitable when they wouldn't be - though I think the effect would work the other direction, when you think about it).

In any case, I take my aluminum cans and "dirty brass" (um, I reload) to them couple times a year, pays for a few bricks of primers. That's my "recycling" motivation ....

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:10 PM (QDnY+)

120 rickl, it seemed most were in agreement.
i don't think cbd agreed or dave in texas. (could be wrong about that)

also whoever socked Trump, did a pretty nice job. i liked Trump more.

Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:10 PM (nqBYe)

121 Begun, this Trump War has...

/disembowels whiny padawan

Hmm! Avoided much trouble is by that!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at July 26, 2015 03:10 PM (m9V0o)

122 There is no shortage of places to put garbage in this country.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Hollywood calls them movies.
*slide whistle down*

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 03:11 PM (rVQpn)

123 so is packsoldier wilson's buddy?

Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:11 PM (nqBYe)

124 Disappearing posts are a Sign.

Have your glasses of water at the ready.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 03:12 PM (MQEz6)

125 Something is fcuking with DTV today. Not hardly a cloud in the sky but it's cutting out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:12 PM (cbMSM)

126 eman ,for the kool-aide?

Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (nqBYe)

127 Nerds up

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (ehIKU)

128 Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knew many years ago about the differences between places like California or New York, and, say, Texas.

About the same time I moved to Ohio, I had a chance to work a job in San Diego for higher salary, and working with UAV's; which has been passion of mine for years. But the cost of living just made it untenable.

Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (c/Ipt)

129 125 Something is fcuking with DTV today. Not hardly a cloud in the sky but it's cutting out.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:12 PM (cbMSM)

The energy released by WeirdDave's post disappearing disturbed all spacecraft.

Posted by: Zombie Homer (No, the Greek One) at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (RD7QR)

130
Grump, could you please come to SoCal and be my real estate agent? I think you vastly, vastlyunder-estimate the insane (insane) real estate prices out here, and not just in the already-developed areas. The cost of acquiring and using brand-new landfills in SD County would be astronomical.

CA's recycling was kick-started by Sacramento for presumably stupid reasons. But landfill costs easily make it a cost-saving measure, at least in the short- and medium-run, for some areas.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (QDnY+)

131 I wonder that more people are not complaining about the exponential increase if groceries, Then i remembered many have food stamps so don't face the actual costs

Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:14 PM (nqBYe)

132 Has anyone noted any other temporal disturbances? Clocks running backward, that sort of thing?

Posted by: Weasel

It's the same thing, every day.

Posted by: Bill Murray at July 26, 2015 03:15 PM (VAsIq)

133 I recycle my boogers!

Posted by: joey biden! at July 26, 2015 03:15 PM (WEvvb)

134 124 Disappearing posts are a Sign.

Have your glasses of water at the ready.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 03:12 PM (MQEz6)

*******

Swing away . . .

Posted by: Fooki! Fooki! at July 26, 2015 03:16 PM (NqQAS)

135 back out to pull weeds.
be well.

Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:16 PM (nqBYe)

136 Has anyone noted any other temporal disturbances? Clocks running backward, that sort of thing?

I'm reminded of Doc Cynic's ordeal

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=344698

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:16 PM (rwI+c)

137 Dr. McCoy killed Dave's post.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 03:17 PM (MQEz6)

138 Posted by: willow at July 26, 2015 03:11 PM (nqBYe)

Isn't packsoldier the one who shows up a couple of times a year to claim that all the services hate snipers?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 26, 2015 03:19 PM (GDulk)

139 Has anyone noted any other temporal disturbances? Clocks running backward, that sort of thing?

Mine isn't running backwards but it is melting.

Posted by: Zombie Salvador Dali at July 26, 2015 03:19 PM (W5DcG)

140 Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:16 PM (rwI+c)

That was a nail-biter.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 03:19 PM (MQEz6)

141 "I wonder that more people are not complaining about the exponential increase if groceries,"

Along with fuel, not figured into the inflation index. Anything beef or corn is more expensive.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:19 PM (cbMSM)

142
willow, you said it.

Many Americans of a certain age literally didn't pay much attention to food prices (outside the usual premium categories of meat/fish, for example) their entire lives - until now. Growing up in CA, you didn't really have to pay that much attention to, especially, produce prices.

Now? Lemons for 80 centsA PIECE? WTF?

Still don't understand how the various CPIs have not reflected the obvious, dramatic, rapid increase in the price of basics going back a few years now. I hear one of the measures (hilariously) excluded food ampersand fuel due to their "volatility" - yeah, that makes sense, you're measuring price movements, but don't include them if they're "volatile"!!

So, anybody gonna hang here? Not a gamer, so no interest in the nerd threads.

And V the K, haven't you heard of "psychic income"? Workking at UAV Central here in Poway/Rancho Bernardo, and enjoying beautiful weather and beaches and deserts 11 months a year ..... gotta count for something.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:20 PM (QDnY+)

143 105
Hey, as long as I get a cut. And maybe I figure a way to get a bigger piece of the action. Since I walk around maybe hit people up with the "Brother, can you spare a can?" schtick.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 26, 2015 03:21 PM (uPxUo)

144 Along with fuel, not figured into the inflation index. Anything beef or corn is more expensive.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

!

Oh, I thought you said *PORN* was more expensive.

Just checked--still free online.

Posted by: Guys at July 26, 2015 03:21 PM (VAsIq)

145 So, anybody gonna hang here?

----

We will!

Posted by: Traitors, swinging from the rafters at July 26, 2015 03:22 PM (VAsIq)

146
YA'LL ARE A BUNCH OF RAGING HETEROSEXUALS.

CARRY ON.

Posted by: SOME DUDE at July 26, 2015 03:23 PM (1LhSy)

147 Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:20 PM (QDnY+)

Colorado has the same problem. The "Rocky Mountain Discount" Higher cost of living coupled with *lower* pay because of easy access to hiking, skiing, etc. Not so impressive if you don't *want* to do any of those things.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 26, 2015 03:24 PM (GDulk)

148 Workking at UAV Central here in Poway/Rancho Bernardo, and enjoying beautiful weather and beaches and deserts 11 months a year ..... gotta count for something.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:20 PM (QDnY+)

Another reason I'm glad I left SoCal: no more Pow! - POW! - POWAY!! commericials.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 26, 2015 03:24 PM (nL0sw)

149 So who's planning on upgrading to W10 this Wednesday?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM (rwI+c)

****
Never, ever upgrade a Windows product until at least SP 1 version is out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 26, 2015 03:24 PM (1eYr7)

150 Something is fcuking with DTV today. Not hardly a cloud in the sky but it's cutting out.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
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*factors that into Texas poverty level *

Well..., most of the food-stamp people are on cable, so this only affects the 'non-impoverished', and poverty level unaffected.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:25 PM (9mTYi)

151 "Oh, I thought you said *PORN* was more expensive. "

Nah, porn's fine unless you top your bandwidth and then it get's pricey.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:25 PM (cbMSM)

152 'So who's planning on upgrading to W10 this Wednesday?'
2017... MAYBE

Posted by: SOME DUDE at July 26, 2015 03:25 PM (1LhSy)

153 I am Facebook friends with my best friend from high school. Yesterday, she sent me a message that they will be leaving the Bay Area for Whidbey Island in WA state. Said California is too expensive. I am very happy that I left CA back in the 70s. Wish I could leave WA as its headed down that same stupid path.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2015 03:25 PM (Lqy/e)

154 And speaking of UAV Central, you don't happen to sork for G.A., do you Rhomboid?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 26, 2015 03:25 PM (nL0sw)

155 So who's planning on upgrading to W10 this Wednesday?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 26, 2015 03:09 PM )
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Yeah. I've been wondering about that myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:26 PM (9mTYi)

156 sork = work

Gah, typing too fast.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 26, 2015 03:26 PM (nL0sw)

157 Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:13 PM (QDnY+)

The whole east side of SoCal is a vast flat land/desert.

I'm pretty sure you could dig a 1/2 mile by 1/2 mile hole out there, say, 200 feet deep and

stow all the garbage in CA for at least one hundred years.

Not sure about "hole digging" costs though.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2015 03:26 PM (KUa85)

158 think it's safe to hang out here? There could be people trapped in the missing Dave thread, you know.

Posted by: Weasel at July 26, 2015 03:27 PM (e3bId)

159 Never, ever upgrade a Windows product until at least SP 1 version is out.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
-----------------

A good policy, but it may cost $ as the immediate 'upgrade ' is 'free'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:27 PM (9mTYi)

160 "Well..., most of the food-stamp people are on cable, so this only affects the 'non-impoverished', and poverty level unaffected."

Yes, I'm rich and stuff.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:28 PM (cbMSM)

161 I'm upgrading to Win10 right away. I'll let you guys know if that turns out to be a mistake ASAP. Provided I can still access the internet, that is.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 03:28 PM (wKc1L)

162 I selected the Win 10 download, but decided I don't want to install it. Hope I can prevent the installation.

Posted by: Ronster at July 26, 2015 03:28 PM (47wTX)

163 think it's safe to hang out here? There could be people trapped in the missing Dave thread, you know.
Posted by: Weasel
-------------------

Somewhere out in the cyber æther.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:29 PM (9mTYi)

164 I suspect that if I open another HQ tab it will crash my computer. Every tab is loading like molasses and writing a comment takes forever.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 26, 2015 03:29 PM (GDulk)

165 There is the angle. You have one year to upgrade from Win 7 or 8 to Win 10 for free.

Win 10 SP 1 comes out one year and one day after the free upgrade ends.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 26, 2015 03:29 PM (XAz3D)

166 I meant to say it comes out 1 day after the free upgrade ends.

D'oh!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 26, 2015 03:30 PM (XAz3D)

167 Yes, I'm rich and stuff.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-------------------

I knew it...., I knew it!
After all, I've watched 'Dallas'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:30 PM (9mTYi)

168 Never, ever upgrade a Windows product until at least SP 1 version is out.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty

Pfft. Windows. I just type away on my keyboard and yell really loud to get my message to y'all.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:30 PM (VAsIq)

169 "After all, I've watched 'Dallas'."

J.R. Ewing was a pussy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:32 PM (cbMSM)

170 The tech-geeks told me I should upgrade the server to Windows 10 for the security patches, but I was all like "none of the windows in the server room are broken, and even if they were I'm not gonna have patches on them like some trailer park."

Posted by: Hillary Rodham-Rodham at July 26, 2015 03:32 PM (rVQpn)

171 I suspect that if I open another HQ tab it will crash my computer. Every tab is loading like molasses and writing a comment takes forever.
Posted by: Polliwog
----------------

Another?
You mean we aren't getting your full attention?
*pouts*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:32 PM (9mTYi)

172 Not sure about "hole digging" costs though.

Sounds like a shovel ready project.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 26, 2015 03:33 PM (W5DcG)

173
Country Singer, negative on the G.A. employ. Though I might end up there if I'm lucky (there's some legs on this UAV thing, at least for the medium term).

naturalfake, yep, lots of empty land, viewed from space. Costs of transportation to said remote spots - even with lower fuel costs than today - not so good. Eventually new landfills will be needed, no doubt. But for now there is a very solid, mundane cost-based case for extending landfill lifespan.

Same sort of real economic and environmental analysis that would result in forever banishing talk of "water shortages" here - coastal new-design nuke plants (thorium) with desalination co-generation activity. As blindingly clear as using a back-hoe to dig a ditch or immunize school kids against measles. Yet - well, you know.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:33 PM (QDnY+)

174 Re: landfills--burn the garbage to generate electricity!

Also to make fire.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:34 PM (VAsIq)

175 " negative on the G.A. employ. Though I might end up there if I'm lucky (there's some legs on this UAV thing, at least for the medium term)."

GA is....."okay." Too damn many trees. Roads are shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:37 PM (cbMSM)

176 landfills--burn the garbage to generate electricity!
-----------
OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!

Pollutant! Pollutant! Pollutant! Pollutant!

Posted by: Reflexive LIV at July 26, 2015 03:37 PM (9mTYi)

177
Ha! End of that last comment read like I was saying it was obvious one should use a back-hoe to "immunize school kids against measles". Of course meant to say that coastal new-generation nuke plants with desalination was as obvious a thing to do as was using a back-hoe to dig ditches OR immunizING kids against measles.

Oh - and the new nuke plants would - (cue Gomer Pyle voice) surprise! surprise! - greatly reduce the absurdly high electricity rates CA has imposed on itself through its idiocy, and which are only going to get much worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:37 PM (QDnY+)

178 Roads are shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I was told streets in America were paved with cheese!

Posted by: Fievel at July 26, 2015 03:38 PM (VAsIq)

179 Ricardo, "G.A." is General Atomic, not Georgia - but you knew that? Heh.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:38 PM (QDnY+)

180 Roads are shit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-----------------------

First Sherman came through, then Carter...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 03:39 PM (9mTYi)

181 OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!
OMG!
CO2!

Pollutant! Pollutant! Pollutant! Pollutant!

Posted by: Reflexive LIV

Hyperventilating causes global warming.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:40 PM (VAsIq)

182 "I was told streets in America were paved with cheese!"

Well, in the Southeast, Oklahoma, New Mexico, the are.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:41 PM (cbMSM)

183 Roads are shit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Unpossible! We spent a trillion dollars of stimulus money on roads and bridges.

Posted by: LIV at July 26, 2015 03:41 PM (rVQpn)

184
There could be people trapped in the missing Dave thread, you know.
Posted by: Weasel

With jacks and timbers they started back down
Then came that rumble way down in the ground

And then smoke and gas belched out of that thread
Everybody knew it was the end of the line for Big Dave

Big Bad Dave

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 03:41 PM (kdS6q)

185 Oh - and the new nuke plants would - (cue Gomer Pyle
voice) surprise! surprise! - greatly reduce the absurdly high
electricity rates CA has imposed on itself through its idiocy, and which
are only going to get much worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2015 03:37 PM (QDnY+)

Sounds like an outbreak of common sense, and we can't have that, comrade. California would rather strike an "eco" pose, and then buy nuclear-generated power from Arizona. That way we maintain our eco-virginity, at least formally.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:41 PM (oKE6c)

186 Hyperventilating causes global warming.
Posted by: Turd
------------------

Actually, a higher CO2 level would reduce hyperventilation, fewer hiccups also.

Posted by: Dr. Breathrite's Hiccup cure- 100% Natural at July 26, 2015 03:43 PM (9mTYi)

187 Hyperventilating causes global warming.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson

Hm. I think I like this one so much I'm going to re-use it often to idiots hyperventilating about global warming.

@NeilTysonWhateverYourTwitterIs

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:43 PM (VAsIq)

188 Unpossible! We spent a trillion dollars of stimulus money on roads and bridges.

Posted by: LIV

Impassible! Your "stimulus" roads are still miles of orange barrels.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:44 PM (VAsIq)

189
And then smoke and gas belched out of that thread
Everybody knew it was the end of the line for Big Dave

Big Bad Dave
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
----

Possible thread winner.

Posted by: Tennessee Ernie Ford at July 26, 2015 03:45 PM (9mTYi)

190 Never, ever upgrade a Windows product until at least SP 1 version is out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty

And NEVER, under any circumstances, buy even-numbered versions of Windows.

Windows 3.1? OK. Windows 95? The suck. Windows 98? OK. Windows ME? The suck. Windows XP? OK. Windows Vista? The suck.^2 Windows 7? OK. Windows 8? The suck. That suggests Windows 9 is OK, but Windows 10 will be the suck.

But for any version, Redmond punishes earlier adopters, aka "alpha testers."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:45 PM (oKE6c)

191 my brother and i have begun looking at property in texas........we were born in raised in california

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 26, 2015 03:45 PM (0O7c5)

192 Unpossible! We spent a trillion dollars of stimulus money on ~~roads and bridges~~ ARRA signs and kickbacks to Democrat cronies.

FIFY.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:46 PM (oKE6c)

193 my brother and i have begun looking at property in texas

Posted by: phoenixgirl

*gasps*
*covers self*
I really picked the worst stripper name ever.

Posted by: Property in Texas at July 26, 2015 03:47 PM (VAsIq)

194 191 my brother and i have begun looking at property in texas........we were born in raised in california
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 26, 2015 03:45 PM (0O7c5)

My wife and I have been looking at Phoenix, trying to surf and stay ahead of the wave of California liberals moving to AZ. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:47 PM (oKE6c)

195 "my brother and i have begun looking at property in texas........we were born in raised in california "

Where you lookin'?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 03:48 PM (cbMSM)

196 But for any version, Redmond punishes earlier adopters, aka "alpha testers."
Posted by: Jay Guevara
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Why should *we* pay to debug this crap? It's so complex it takes millions of user-hours to find the errors.

Posted by: Wm. & Melinda, Worl's Wealthiest Couple, $86,000,000,000 at July 26, 2015 03:48 PM (9mTYi)

197 Some day I'm going to open a little restaurant in Spurger, TX, called Spurger Burger.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 26, 2015 03:52 PM (VAsIq)

198 [iWhy should *we* pay to debug this crap? It's so complex it takes millions of user-hours to find the errors.

Posted by: Wm. Melinda, Worl's Wealthiest Couple, $86,000,000,000 at July 26, 2015 03:48 PM (9mTYi)

Exactly. It's pretty clear that MS just shoves shit out the door and waits for howls from users, then fixes them. For example, it was very clear that Vista was a test version of Windows 7; they even used the same screen graphics, etc. They just fixed the worst f-ups in Vista and released that as W7.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:52 PM (oKE6c)

199 Susan and I have perfected the method of showing hyperventilation by using jazz hands thus avoiding damage to our precious environment. Unlike bush who unleashed massive co2 into the atmosphere with his illegal wars.

Posted by: Mary J Cloggenstine from Brattleboro, Vt at July 26, 2015 03:52 PM (XAz3D)

200 190
That suggests Windows 9 is OK, but Windows 10 will be the suck.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 03:45 PM (oKE6c)

I read somewhere that there will be no Windows 9, because some of the code would confuse it with 95 or 98.

(Like I know the first thing about coding.)

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2015 03:52 PM (sdi6R)

201 (Like I know the first thing about coding.)
Posted by: rickl
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Well..., we're not sure, actually. No one remembers.

Posted by: MSFT Boffins at July 26, 2015 03:56 PM (9mTYi)

202 Question for the geeks-

My laptop runs Windows7. My understanding is that W10 is supposed to be an improvement over W8 and all its tablet type stuff.

Why do I need W10 at all?

Answer this using little words please. I'm amazed I can regularly turn the machine on correctly.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 03:57 PM (ehIKU)

203 ricardo McLennan County

jay....az is great......i love the weather.....just ready to move on.....my district used to be red....now we are purple....turning blue....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 26, 2015 03:58 PM (0O7c5)

204 39 In some other universe Dave's post is still posted, but the commenters are all wearing pants.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2015 02:18 PM (MQEz6)

There are... NO pants!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Jean Luc Picard at July 26, 2015 04:00 PM (EHU9F)

205 Garry: The thread's gone.
MacReady: Any way we can we fix it?
Garry: It's "gone", MacReady.

Posted by: The Thing at July 26, 2015 04:01 PM (ueOgE)

206 I see that the co-founder of black lives matter wants to have a big protest at the RNC convention.
Wrong place gal. I'll make it easy and just mention Baltimore. Black majority city, black mayor, black chief of police, black majority council, it is not the race, but the economic status of the citizens. And by the way, they are all democrats. You get what you vote for. You should go to the DNC convention.

Posted by: Cheshirecat at July 26, 2015 04:01 PM (e8vZc)

207 Extreme Tech on why win 10 instead of win 9

http://preview.tinyurl.com/q5z8mnk

As always, beware of strangers bearing links.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 26, 2015 04:05 PM (XAz3D)

208 206 I see that the co-founder of black lives matter wants to have a big protest at the RNC convention.

Posted by: Cheshirecat at July 26, 2015 04:01 PM (e8vZc)

It's probably just another way to paint Republicans as racists. If they get booted out, or if the R's refuse to mouth their slogans or cave in to their demands, the media gets a chance to say, "Look at those wacisty Wepublicans."

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2015 04:06 PM (sdi6R)

209 And by the way, they are all democrats. You get what you vote for. You should go to the DNC convention.
Posted by: Cheshirecat

Butt...but, Southern strategy...hurr de derr...CBF...derp de derp...BOOOSH!

Posted by: LIV at July 26, 2015 04:08 PM (rVQpn)

210 We've possibly reached peak SJW, they're going after Mel Brooks:
http://louderwithcrowder.com/sjws-finally-coming-mel-brooks/

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 26, 2015 04:13 PM (rVQpn)

211 I read somewhere that there will be no Windows 9, because some of the code would confuse it with 95 or 98.

(Like I know the first thing about coding.)

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2015 03:52 PM (sdi6R)

OK. Sounds like they've gotten wind of my strategy. If so, W10 may be OK, but, as in the old commercial, let Mikey try it first.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 26, 2015 04:13 PM (oKE6c)

212 205
Garry: The thread's gone.

MacReady: Any way we can we fix it?

Garry: It's "gone", MacReady.

Posted by: The Thing at July 26, 2015 04:01 PM (ueOgE)
_______________Gone? Gone like Lois Lerner - Hillary Clinton email gone? That kind of gone?I had it up, got interrupted and when I went back it vanished.That must have happened to Lois and Hil' too.

Posted by: gracepc at July 26, 2015 04:14 PM (DMQhB)

213 202 My laptop runs Windows7. My understanding is that W10 is supposed to be an improvement over W8 and all its tablet type stuff.

Why do I need W10 at all?

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 03:57 PM (ehIKU)

You probably don't. Depending upon how long you want to keep your laptop, you may benefit from a Windows 10 upgrade as Microsoft will not provide security updates for Windows 7 past January 2020. However, you will have a year past the official Win10 release to make the decision.

I doubt I will be installing Windows 10 on any of my Windows 7/8 machines until the first service pack.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 26, 2015 04:14 PM (EHU9F)

214 Garry: The thread's gone.
MacReady: Any way we can we fix it?
Garry: It's "gone", MacReady.
Posted by: The Thing
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Hmf. I worked for a company that produced 'Smart' environmental controls. Remote locations were controlled by a central system. If something went sour, with communications, then the local system would shift to autonomous mode and soldier on.

We had a guy from a well known corporation which supplies aerospace and the military drop by to talk to us. His division manufactures stuff which sometimes vaporizes the manufacturing plant, or a bunker where their product is stored.

After we explained our system to him, he said, "So..., if I lose a building, everything else will keep working, right?"

"Sure", we said, "it happens all of the the time. A contractor cuts a cable, a lightening strike..., things like that."

"No", he said, " I mean LOSE a building."

Posted by: MSFT Boffins at July 26, 2015 04:15 PM (9mTYi)

215 Kind of echoy in here. Could it be that....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 04:20 PM (9mTYi)

216 Nood food

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 26, 2015 04:24 PM (ehIKU)

217 So ronery. So ronery. So ronery and sadry arone.

Posted by: Zombie Kim Jong-il at July 26, 2015 04:27 PM (EHU9F)

218 HANS BRIX!!

Posted by: Clarney at July 26, 2015 04:34 PM (W+Wy7)

219 Washington is a byproduct of progressive Californians shitting where they eat...and not liking the taste. Gotta move somewhere

Posted by: Clarney at July 26, 2015 04:37 PM (W+Wy7)

220 #197: I suppose it's better than opening a burger place in Sugar Land called Sugar Booger.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 05:18 PM (wKc1L)

221 You could move to to Borger, TX and open the Borger Burger Beef Eatery.

Posted by: Mike at July 26, 2015 05:36 PM (q0D5J)

222 Mississippi? Alabama ? Louisiana? Yeah Cars are much cheaper there because ahhh they are made there.
And schools are much better so all the smart people want to live there

Posted by: righter at July 26, 2015 07:27 PM (r6HrP)

223 People ARE more willing to pay more to live in Blue states, I guess they must ahve real reasons. Just ask Ace

Posted by: righter at July 26, 2015 07:29 PM (r6HrP)

224 I like to remind douches who rag on "red states" that the 40 to 45 % of us in blue states who vote Republican are subsidizing the 55 to 60 % in the free shit army who do not.

Posted by: PC at July 26, 2015 08:50 PM (PEqlJ)

225 For those of you who are doubting Trump's sincerity for the general election, click my nick to see him attacking Hillary in a way no Republican has before.

He calls her sad, and pathetic, and tells her she needs to focus more on producing her illegal hidden emails for Congress.

Wow! What "legitimate" Repug has ever said something like that, which, frankly, needs to be said?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 26, 2015 08:52 PM (wKc1L)

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