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To the Moon, Alice !
Posted by: Roman Maroni at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (vCA4F) 3
America, the Once and Future King.
Posted by: jmel at July 24, 2015 07:52 PM (cfFqn) 4
And in the meantime, we have produced the Kardashians.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (oVJmc) 5
Thank you - I wondered if anyone besides me remembered.
Posted by: Dianna at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (3n4em) 6
I wonder how many Americans would have believed on that day that the era of travel to the moon would end in 1972, with no attempts to send any more astronauts to the moon for four decades and more after that.
Posted by: Joshua at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (oCZ4e) 7
Is this what Gabe was talking about?
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (Dwehj) 8
You can really see how we thought, in 1969, that by 2000 we'd be on Mars.
Wars, infighting, graft, fraud, and resentment later... Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 07:55 PM (bLnSU) 9
How many would have thought the republic would cease to exist 46 years later??
Posted by: Ruth at July 24, 2015 07:56 PM (0i3w2) 10
We made it to the moon...and then all energies were focused on societal and cultural destruction.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (Dwehj) 11
And, of course, the African tribes had reached the Moon 4,000 years ago and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man.
This has been a Nat X History Moment. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (oVJmc) 12
Yet another example of the cisnormative capitalist patriarchy raping a celestial body.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (oKE6c) 13
I remember it well.
Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (Gcu5R) 14
And, of course, the African tribes had reached the Moon 4,000 years ago and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man.
This has been a Nat X History Moment. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel And we invented algebra long before those Greek homos ever thought of it! Posted by: Rev Al at July 24, 2015 07:59 PM (rVQpn) 15
We have lost the technology.
But we do remember we used to know how to get to the moon, so, technically, we are not in a 'dark-age' Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:59 PM (NaeCR) 16
And, of course, the African tribes had reached the Moon 4,000 years ago
and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man. Who cleverly hid all of his technical achievements - along with his literature, philosophy, science, and mathematics - so well that we still can't find them today. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:00 PM (oKE6c) 17
Apollo 11 would have been more successful if it were more racially diverse.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (z0HrT) 18
Good to remember we once aspired to greatness, and achieved it.
Posted by: Austin in TX at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (b834H) And now we aspire to socialist degeneracy, and we're achieving that too. We're achievers, bitchez! Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (ODxAs) 20
Remember the photos of Mission Control? A room full of white guys with crewcuts in white shirts. No diversity whatsoever. It's amazing we made it anyway.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:02 PM (oKE6c) 21
But von Braun's dreams of colonizing Mars might never be realized until perhaps the 100th anniversary of the first Moon landing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:03 PM (XYw4l) 22
6 I wonder how many Americans would have believed on that day that the era of travel to the moon would end in 1972, with no attempts to send any more astronauts to the moon for four decades and more after that.
Posted by: Joshua at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (oCZ4e) --Feh. Manned exploration is far too expensive and impractical. Look how much we learned last week about Pluto with a small, unmanned craft that cost a pittance compared to a manned expedition. Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 08:03 PM (z0HrT) 23
Remember the photos of Mission Control? A room full of white guys with crewcuts in white shirts.
It was the worst of times... Posted by: SJ Wanker at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (Dwehj) 24
a small, unmanned craft that cost a pittance compared to a manned expedition.
BUT, how many school lunches would that money have bought? Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (NaeCR) 25
And now we have no space program. Progress! Posted by: Guy Mohawk Yessssss, progresssss. Our eggssssss are ssssssafe. Posted by: The Space Lizard Anti-Space Program Conspiracy Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (kdS6q) 26
And look at us now.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (e3bId) 27
Anybody else remember TV program where Jack Anderson said he thought they went to the Moon but he was absolutely sure the pictures were fake?
Posted by: aSurprise at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (PGh+Q) 28
Hey AnnaP, whatcha got in Apollo 11 vignettes?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (0NdlF) 29
The sad thing is, even as the Saturn V launch vehicle carrying the CSM and LM of Apollo 11 thundered into the beautiful Florida sky on 16 July 1969 there were protestors at the launch saying the money spent on NASA should have been spent on helping the poor.
Somethings never change. The grifters screaming for more bread for one. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (XYw4l) 30
BUT, how many school lunches would that money have bought?
And free tampons. And less-crunchy harvested organs. Posted by: SJ Wanker at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (Dwehj) 31
Don't get me up on the soapbox about a lack of technological advancements. I could go on for hours. Everything slowed down in the 70s. Its grinding to a slow, awful halt.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (39g3+) 32
Isn't it great that today we're spending our money on EBT cards, Planned Parenthood, NSA surveillance, ACORN, fucked-up healthcare websites and cowboy poetry instead of doing stuff like exploring space?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (8ZskC) 33
Small bit o Dave trivia.. my dad worked for Brown Engineering (von Braun's company) as a communications engineer from 64-69. One month after this mission he took a job in Texas which is when we moved here.
I still remember watching this stuff with him and mom and the oldest kid sis. He was very proud, just having had a small role. Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (wLvts) Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 08:08 PM (z0HrT) 35
"It was a mere 66 years from Kitty Hawk to the moon."
Yet another 36 years from Apollo 11 to the first cat video on YouTube. *taps his nose* Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 24, 2015 08:08 PM (kqGWM) 36
SHARK!
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:08 PM (wAQA5) Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:08 PM (qOsoH) 38
Remember the photos of Mission Control? A room full of white guys with crewcuts in white shirts.
PRO TIP: If they want to keep their jobs they'd better stick with the white shirts. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:08 PM (8ZskC) 39
Well Fi not done a truly in depth analysis but I would bet good money the latest gaming computer on the market or even a PS4 has more computing power than the DSKYs, the IBM made Instrumentation unit, and the mainframes of Houston combined.
But what did we get to the Moon with? Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (XYw4l) 40
These, uh, power rockets are firing all over the place, we got lasers that aren't shooting . . .
Posted by: Ricky and Bubbles at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (z0HrT) 41
I didn't know to recently that the Saturn 5 burned kerosene. Why did they switch to hydrogen for the shuttle?
Posted by: aSurprise at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (PGh+Q) 42
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Don't get me up on the soapbox about a lack of technological advancements. I could go on for hours. Everything slowed down in the 70s. Its grinding to a slow, awful halt. But all the kids can bury their noses in tablets and smartphones. Progress! Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:10 PM (0NdlF) Posted by: SJ Wanker at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (Dwehj) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (8ZskC) 45
I was six, and my dad, a Naval Aviator, got me out of bed to watch the landing. He said it was important and I'd want to remember it. Thanks, Dad.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (e3bId) 46
As a member of the "Poop in the Bag" club due to wilderness hiking, I stand in awe of the people who could do it in a weightless tin can.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (uPxUo) 47
Thanks to all the Muslim scientists.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (wAQA5) 48
BUT, how many school lunches would that money have bought?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (NaeCR) Or free pho's for the hood? There are so many much more deserving uses for that money. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (oKE6c) 49
John Adams studied politics and war so that his children could study architecture and agriculture, so that their kids could study painting and astronomy, so that their kids could study feminist hoot songs and the racial bigotry of food desserts.
Posted by: Old Hob at July 24, 2015 08:11 PM (Z+7WE) 50
But what did we get to the Moon with?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (XYw4l) Slide rules, astrolabes, and abacci Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (NaeCR) 51
Why would anyone want to go to the Moon anymore, we have The LightWorker right here, on Mother Earth. Dumb-ass white crackers.
Posted by: Mouth full of LightWorker at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (nJIZA) 52
food deserts, not desserts
Posted by: Old Hob at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (Z+7WE) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (8ZskC) 54
I just farted.
Posted by: Joe! at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (z0HrT) 55
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And, of course, the African tribes had reached the Moon 4,000 years ago and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man. This has been a Nat X History Moment. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (oVJmc) Preach it blood! Posted by: Rev Al at July 24, 2015 08:13 PM (0FSuD) 56
Just flaunting that patriarchy n racism
gotta be white men going to a white planet while 3rd world brown people starve, and we're all sposed to clap and say Good Job, Massah! This is why I say there won't be any peace until Zimbabwe gets a space program and Palestinians walk on Mars! /s Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 08:13 PM (Cq0oW) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:13 PM (8ZskC) 58
But what did we get to the Moon with?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (XYw4l) Slide Rule FTW! Posted by: A dude in MI at July 24, 2015 08:13 PM (Dth0i) Posted by: Hassan Rouhani at July 24, 2015 08:14 PM (rVQpn) 60
The F-1 engines of the Saturn V first stage burned kerosene. Since it was the monster that was going to pump out 1.5 million pounds of thrust per engine and there were FIVE F-1s they kept it simple.
The second and third stage J-1 engines used liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. One of the engineering challenges was creating an insulated container capable of keeping the liquid hydrogen liquid and not leak everywhere. Another issue was to create common bulkhead between the LOX and LH containers in order to save weight. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:14 PM (XYw4l) 61
http://tinyurl.com/474ow
Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 08:14 PM (j1Wvr) 62
Is this the drunk thread??
Posted by: phoenixgirl at July 24, 2015 08:14 PM (0O7c5) 63
Yet another 36 years from Apollo 11 to the first cat video on YouTube.
Hey, at least Apollo 11 gave MLB sportscasters the phrase "moon shot" for a home run. Posted by: Basement Cat at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (3C9q2) 64
towards that end I'm designing a burka spacesuit and developing halal astronaut food
and a gyroscope that always points to Mecca Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (Cq0oW) 65
We've developed a lot of communication and miniaturization, and we've made tech a lot cheaper.
A lot of the tech is not that useful for things like space exploration because it's 99.9% reliable and not 99.999999% reliable. Which is a gigantic difference. Things like most computers don't use self-correcting memory, so uptime is measured in days and not years. We've gone down some very practical paths that just didn't open up paths we thought we would be traveling on. There's nothing wrong with tablets and phones and cars that adjust lift and duration dynamically to make 500 hp and get 35 mpg... but none of that gets you to Mars. We may still fine some "neat trick" that lets us travel there, I hope. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (bLnSU) 66
A lot of folks wonder why we Black?
The re entry from the moon done our skin in. Dat's the facts, Jack. Posted by: Rev Al at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (0FSuD) Posted by: blaster at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (2Ocf1) 68
I 'member watching "2001:A Space Odyssey" and thinking, "Soon"
I didn't know that MY generation (Class of '6 would be responsible for pretty much every crap idea that has led us to where we are today. Posted by: least in ID at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (lGLAo) 69
"They" are criticizing Buzz Aldrin for white privilege for walking on the moon ...
Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (qOsoH) 70
I remember that for years afterwards people claimed any flood or blizzard was caused by us going to the moon. Posted by: Ed Anger at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (RcpcZ) 71
Let's face it - there's no way we could do anything like that today.
By the time the lawsuits were over they'd have a "diverse" workforce, half of which couldn't read and had to have pictures on the keys, the other half of which would forget to show up on the day of the launch, or fail to make bail in time. And think of the image of having a dozen burly guys stuff the astronauts into the capsule while they struggled for their lives, knowing full well critical components were sourced from politically-favored demographics. The final image would be those guys prying the astronauts' fingers off the portal so they could close the hatch. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (oKE6c) 72
But what did we get to the Moon with?
Posted by: Anna Puma Slide rules, astrolabes, and abacci Posted by: Burnt Toast Astroglide. Posted by: rickb223 at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (X88sA) 73
The Saturn V rocket absolutely had to have a huge amount of surplus thrust, far above it's specific lift weight.
Balls on those three astronauts had a density far greater than pure tungsten, and weighed tons more than those of mere mortals. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2015 08:17 PM (RzZOc) 74
17 Apollo 11 would have been more successful if it were more racially diverse. Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (z0HrT) I thought NASA was getting fairly diverse recently - until President Social Justice slashed the program back so far that we have to hitch rides with the much more racially diverse Russian program. Kazakhstan has such a large African population. It will be nice to have an actual space program again some day - hey a guy can dream. Zero did. Posted by: GBruno at July 24, 2015 08:17 PM (u49WF) 75
and a gyroscope that always points to Mecca
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (Cq0oW) Make it an inertial guidance system and you've got something. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:18 PM (oKE6c) 76
Let's face it - there's no way we could do anything like that today.
Cape Canaveral is screwing up the manatee habitat. It has to go. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 08:18 PM (8ZskC) Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:18 PM (e3bId) 78
I remember that for years afterwards people claimed any flood or blizzard was caused by us going to the moon.
Yes. We poked a whole in the turtles. Posted by: That lady who always says... at July 24, 2015 08:18 PM (Dwehj) 79
True about that reliability thing Merovign. The Shuttle fleet flew for several decades with 8086 technology.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:19 PM (XYw4l) 80
My dad started this program. While I am in prison, I always think with pride about his work.
http://tinyurl.com/nufcukv Posted by: Jesse Jackson, III at July 24, 2015 08:19 PM (0FSuD) 81
69 "They" are criticizing Buzz Aldrin for white privilege for walking on the moon ...
Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (qOsoH) We need two space programs; one old-fashioned (white guys, crewcuts, white shirts, pocket protectors), and one cool, hip, diverse, New Age one. Then all the people who favor the latter can draw lots to see who goes up in the damned thing. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:20 PM (oKE6c) 82
Hey AnnaP, whatcha got in Apollo 11 vignettes?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (0NdlF) --------------- Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (XYw4l) Impressive catdroid efficiency. Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:20 PM (0NdlF) Posted by: Queen Barry I at July 24, 2015 08:20 PM (rVQpn) 84
They landed in Mare Tranquillitatis, which loosely translates to Sea of Calm Tits. Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:20 PM (wAQA5) 85
A black male, a hispanic transgender, and a woman of bi-racial color returned from the moon on this date in 1969 as we look back at a time when America was above the divisive nature that so inflicts today`s republican party!
Posted by: The New York Times... at July 24, 2015 08:21 PM (eNo74) 86
With the new sub 10nm technology we should be able to build really reliable radiation hardened stuff with 50 to 100nm dimensions.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 24, 2015 08:21 PM (zauWW) 87
83 nice rebuttal!
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:21 PM (e3bId) 88
Here is the Apollo 11 CM being brought aboard ship after splashdown.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nzzn5mk Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:22 PM (XYw4l) 89
This was a great moment for Muslim Self-Esteem.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 08:22 PM (oVJmc) 90
Imma let you finish, but lemme just say "Fallen Angels."
Rather annoyingly, there was another "underground space program" book that was pretty good, *and* was an early-adopter of online sales (like in the 90s), and I actually have a print copy in a box somewhere and can't go digging for it. No idea who did it or what it was called, but it did involve a "rocket smuggler" and huge concrete spaceships constructed in the ocean and launched from there. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 08:23 PM (bLnSU) Posted by: Sulu at July 24, 2015 08:23 PM (Dwehj) 92
You know, all of the technical achievements of all the groups that criticize white males, taken all together, don't amount to a bucket of warm spit. You'd think there'd be a little respect. But then you'd be wrong.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:23 PM (oKE6c) 93
Yeah, Anna. Computers are cheap and available, and that's good, but imagine if when your game crashed you lost five real people and a billion dollars.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 08:24 PM (bLnSU) 94
Well at least the handful of people who can get to LEO can Tweet from there, so we got that going for us.
Posted by: blaster at July 24, 2015 08:25 PM (2Ocf1) 95
73 The Saturn V rocket absolutely had to have a huge amount of surplus thrust, far above it's specific lift weight.
Balls on those three astronauts had a density far greater than pure tungsten, and weighed tons more than those of mere mortals. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2015 08:17 PM (RzZOc) More than Nancy Boy Lindsey? Posted by: Golfman at July 24, 2015 08:25 PM (48QDY) 96
Six big balls and no strikeouts...now that was a team.
Posted by: Bobby Cox at July 24, 2015 08:26 PM (eNo74) 97
88 Here is the Apollo 11 CM being brought aboard ship after splashdown.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nzzn5mk Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:22 PM (XYw4l) Anna. You rock. Seriously. You bring it in mere seconds. Posted by: Golfman at July 24, 2015 08:27 PM (48QDY) 98
I remember I was almost 14 when Dad came into my and my sister's bedroom to tell us the Russians had launched Sputnik. I also remember saying something like, "It's about time," and going back to sleep.
I was a science fiction fan already, and after that, was sure I'd live to see lunar and Mars colonies, maybe even interstellar. Boy, was I ever wrong! Posted by: Empire1 at July 24, 2015 08:27 PM (f/cDc) 99
August 5th, 1969. Michael Collins, command module pilot, sits in the hatch of Columbia at MSC's Lunar Receiving Laboratory while the CM was being examined.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nr4sfu2 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:28 PM (XYw4l) 100
"They" are criticizing Buzz Aldrin for white privilege for walking on the moon ...
Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (qOsoH) I'd like to see "They" in a dispute with those, like the guy Aldrin punched, who said he wasn't there at all. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 08:28 PM (TEpA2) 101
I knew I was going to willow myself in the last thread. I'm a slow writer.
Anyway, while it was 66 years from Kitty Hawk to the Moon, it was only 46 years from the Moon to Pluto. And 9 years of that was simply travel time. So there's that. Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:28 PM (sdi6R) 102
I often say no way we could build a Saturn V today. The program would never get past it's environmental impact statement.
Posted by: blaster at July 24, 2015 08:29 PM (2Ocf1) 103
Unfortunately Merovign it was not the computers that killed the Challenger and Columbia crews.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:29 PM (XYw4l) 104
First!
Posted by: Buzz Aldrin at July 24, 2015 08:30 PM (z0HrT) 105
Nope, Anna. Something always gets you, sooner or later.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 08:30 PM (bLnSU) 106
103 Unfortunately Merovign it was not the computers that killed the Challenger and Columbia crews.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:29 PM (XYw4l) Them damn engineers. Posted by: Golfman at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (48QDY) 107
69 "They" are criticizing Buzz Aldrin for white privilege for walking on the moon ...
Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (qOsoH) I don't know who "they" are, but I am really beginning to hate "them". Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (sdi6R) 108
Blaster its not even that... if I wanted to flip through We Reach the Moon I could quote exactly one of von Braun's fellow German scientists saying when it came to fuel leakage with the engines it was deciding how much was acceptable.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (XYw4l) 109
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well the Zuni Indians IIRC said that we violated the great female spirit thinger what rulez the wimmenz, and said our women would turn manly and barren while our men would turn into women. which hmmm, amirite? Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (Cq0oW) 110
We couldn't have done it without Anthony Weiner.
Posted by: wth - yeah I watched Sharknado 3 at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (wAQA5) 111
It was a mere 66 years from Kitty Hawk to the moon.
And 66 years from the Moon landing would be 2035, by which time we would have done bupkis Posted by: chemjeff at July 24, 2015 08:32 PM (2XMpf) Posted by: Mr. Armstrong at July 24, 2015 08:32 PM (nJIZA) Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 08:33 PM (j1Wvr) 114
and a gyroscope that always points to Mecca
That was done on one of the "early" STS missions - had a Saudi prince as a mission specialist. Posted by: Fox2! at July 24, 2015 08:33 PM (brIR5) 115
We haven't *really* gone to the moon, since no bruthas have been there yet.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (2XMpf) 116
I read an article the other day that said that the New Horizon did a whiparound of Jupiter to get the trajectory to Pluto correct that replicated Apollo 13 going around the moon. Pretty cool.
Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (TEpA2) 117
We should have a space program one day. Like the grown-up countries.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 24, 2015 08:35 PM (rwI+c) 118
ASTRONAUTES EUNT DOMUS
Posted by: Spaceman Spiff at July 24, 2015 08:35 PM (wf13m) 119
The first woman to be raped on the moon has already been born!
Posted by: SJw at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (HstNY) 120
Mission 51-G. OV-103 Discovery. 17 June 1985. Mission carried to orbit Patrick Baudry of France and Abdel-aziz Al-Saud of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (XYw4l) 121
69 "They" are criticizing Buzz Aldrin for white privilege for walking on the moon ... Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (qOsoH) ......................................... Would they feel better if he had landed on the dark side? Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (wAQA5) 122
We couldn't have done it without Anthony Weiner.
Yes. That skank probe he launched broke new ground. Posted by: Sulu at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (Dwehj) 123
115 We haven't *really* gone to the moon, since no bruthas have been there yet.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (2XMpf) ~~~~~ Don't believe the black-black-out, as they say. Posted by: Dr. Warren Fingeroot at July 24, 2015 08:37 PM (j1Wvr) 124
ASTRONAUTES EUNT DOMUS
Posted by: Spaceman Spiff a "The people called astronauts they go the house"? Posted by: Centurion Cleese at July 24, 2015 08:37 PM (rVQpn) 125
119 The first woman to be raped on the moon has already been born!
Posted by: SJw at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (HstNY) Next! Posted by: Golfman at July 24, 2015 08:37 PM (48QDY) 126
What part of Apollo would Al Gore like to be credited for taking the initiative to invent?
Posted by: Mr. Armstrong at July 24, 2015 08:37 PM (nJIZA) 127
123 115 We haven't *really* gone to the moon, since no bruthas have been there yet.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (2XMpf) ~~~~~ Don't believe the black-black-out, as they say. Posted by: Dr. Warren Fingeroot at July 24, 2015 08:37 PM (j1Wvr) It was a different time, you understand. Posted by: "Suitcase" Jefferson at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (z0HrT) 128
It took the Wright Bros. Four years from the time they started to their first flight.
Posted by: Tmitsss at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (XAYp+) 129
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And, of course, the African tribes had reached the Moon 4,000 years ago and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man. This has been a Nat X History Moment. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (oVJmc) http://www.negrospaceprogram.com/ Posted by: Johnny Brown at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (mZeV0) 130
Would they feel better if he had landed on the dark side?
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:36 PM (wAQA5) Perhaps. Buzz. Not so much. Posted by: Golfman at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (48QDY) 131
114
and a gyroscope that always points to Mecca That was done on one of the "early" STS missions - had a Saudi prince as a mission specialist. Posted by: Fox2! at July 24, 2015 08:33 PM (brIR All Saudi airliners have a compass on the plane that points to mecca as the plane flies. Towel heads need to know. Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (0FSuD) 132
Slide rules, Analog computers, and transistors the size of my watch...
And a sextant for serious guys/gals... Posted by: Fewenuff at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (hWJc0) 133
The Old Negro Space Program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8
Posted by: obligatory at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (rwI+c) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (XYw4l) 135
Mission 51-G. OV-103 Discovery. 17 June 1985. Mission carried to orbit Patrick Baudry of France and Abdel-aziz Al-Saud of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Anna Puma **** Where Abdel declared a fatwa on the moon. Death to the moon! Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (YGnSA) Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (xSCb6) 137
dammit
Posted by: obligatory at July 24, 2015 08:40 PM (rwI+c) 138
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We need two space programs; one old-fashioned (white guys, crewcuts, white shirts, pocket protectors, and chain smoking), and one cool, hip, diverse, New Age one. Then all the people who favor the latter can draw lots to see who goes up in the damned thing. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:20 PM (oKE6c) FIFY. Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:40 PM (sdi6R) 139
We haven't *really* gone to the moon, since no bruthas have been there yet. Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (2XMpf) ................................ We can't send them, it's for their own safety. Posted by: wth - seen what happens in the Sci-Fi movies at July 24, 2015 08:40 PM (wAQA5) 140
Boys, we've been getting complaints that people are getting high and drunk and playing space in the middle of the street. . . .
Posted by: Randy at July 24, 2015 08:41 PM (z0HrT) 141
All Saudi airliners have a compass on the plane that points to mecca as the plane flies.
Towel heads need to know. Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (0FSuD) Sounds reasonable. /sarcasm I always mused at what fun it would be to wrap coils around a mosque. Tell them they got it slightly wrong; Mecca is this way, and show them on a compass. Then when they reorient themselves, very gradually energize the coils, and rotate the apparent direction toward Mecca ever so slowly ... Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:41 PM (oKE6c) 142
#90 - Falling Angels was Niven, Pournelle and Barnes.
Posted by: Dianna at July 24, 2015 08:41 PM (3n4em) 143
When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism?
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (e3bId) 144
Boys, we've been getting complaints that people are getting high and drunk and playing space in the middle of the street. . . .
Posted by: Randy Yeah, us. I'm high as fuck right now. Posted by: Ricky at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (rVQpn) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (XYw4l) Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (0FSuD) 147
143
When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism? Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (e3bId) Hey, you talking about me? Posted by: The Black Hole at July 24, 2015 08:43 PM (0FSuD) Posted by: Randy at July 24, 2015 08:43 PM (z0HrT) 149
136 Meanwhile, Caitlyn just got a new show.
Yeah, we've really progressed since then. Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (xSCb6) And in 50s TV shows, married couples slept in twin beds, and network censors forbade the word "pregnant." Now we've got Lena Dunham, the entire Kardashian clan, and Brucella Jenner, so the appropriate word isn't "progressed," but rather "degenerated." Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:44 PM (oKE6c) 150
143 When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism?
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (e3bId) We need a galactic conversation about race. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:45 PM (oKE6c) 151
The first woman to be raped on the moon has already been born! ................................... Can you blame those poor moon guys? The boobehs stay perky when weightless. Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:46 PM (wAQA5) 152
147
Black Holes v. White Dwarfs Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:46 PM (e3bId) 153
"That was done on one of the 'early' STS missions - had a Saudi prince as a mission specialist."
I was told a few years ago by someone in the loop in Houston that the princeling was violently ill in zero gee for pretty much the entire flight. Fortunately his responsibilities were those of an "observer". Oh, by the way, royal Saudis don't clean up messes. Even if they made them. That would be menial. Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 08:47 PM (noWW6) 154
Now we've got Lena Dunham, the entire Kardashian clan, and Brucella Jenner,
-------- Isn't the world so much better when run on feelings. Posted by: SJw at July 24, 2015 08:47 PM (HstNY) 155
Oh, by the way, royal Saudis don't clean up messes. Even if they made them. That would be menial.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 08:47 PM (noWW6) Speaking of that, did you see the Saudi King is in the Riviera with a 1,000 hanger ons? Someone is going to get laid. Every hook in 500 miles must be down there. Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 08:49 PM (0FSuD) 156
143 When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism?
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (e3bId) ~~~~~ I only like the creamy white ones with the red centers. Posted by: Alien at July 24, 2015 08:49 PM (j1Wvr) 157
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that remembered this date, Dave. I was a teenager when the first step was live on TV and when the reentry occurred.
Posted by: Pecan Scandi at July 24, 2015 08:49 PM (lX6ac) 158
116 I read an article the other day that said that the New Horizon did a whiparound of Jupiter to get the trajectory to Pluto correct that replicated Apollo 13 going around the moon. Pretty cool.
------ Yep...the old gravity assist. Stealing a tiny fraction of orbital velocity from the gas giants delivers a big punch of delta-v to the spacecraft heading outward from the sun. Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 08:49 PM (eNo74) 159
158 Rocket Surgeon
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:51 PM (e3bId) 160
143 When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism? Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:42 PM (e3bId) We need a galactic conversation about race. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:45 PM (oKE6c) .......................................... We'll be fine as long as the aliens don't land in Ferguson. Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 08:51 PM (wAQA5) 161
Should the Faithful land on the Moon?
Posted by: Anna Puma **** The questions we could ask the Imams... Muwhahahahaha! Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 08:51 PM (YGnSA) 162
We need a galactic conversation about race.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:45 PM (oKE6c) Anyone who comes here from another galaxy, I'll admit, is of a superior race. Posted by: bergerbilder at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (+jijM) 163
The gravity assist slingshot has been a staple for outer planet missions since at least the Voyager missions. It gave the probes a 'free' speed boost and also aim them for the next planet on the itinerary. That is how Voyager 2 ended up zipping by Uranus and Neptune; the planetary alignments for Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune were just right for such a mission.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (XYw4l) 164
We'll be fine as long as the aliens don't land in Ferguson.
Posted by: wth ***** That would be an awesome spoof movie. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (YGnSA) 165
Anyone who comes here needs to have their head(s) examined.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (e3bId) 166
"By the time the lawsuits were over they'd have a "diverse" workforce,
half of which couldn't read and had to have pictures on the keys, the other half of which would forget to show up on the day of the launch, or fail to make bail in time" Never mind the 'workers', gotta have some dedicated slots for those in engineering management making the hard decisions. Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (NaeCR) 167
Anyone who comes here from another galaxy, I'll admit, is of a superior race.
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (+jijM) No, no, why would you think that? Gobsmacking objective evidence is just a social construct. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:55 PM (oKE6c) 168
Ride the gravity slingshot to Uranus! All aboard!
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:55 PM (e3bId) 169
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (XYw4l)
I don't have a science background, so I find it amazing how they can calculate the "planetary assist" right. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 08:55 PM (TEpA2) 170
29 The sad thing is, even as the Saturn V launch vehicle carrying the CSM and LM of Apollo 11 thundered into the beautiful Florida sky on 16 July 1969 there were protestors at the launch saying the money spent on NASA should have been spent on helping the poor.
Somethings never change. The grifters screaming for more bread for one. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (XYw4l) Ayn Rand wrote a great essay, "Apollo and Dionysus" comparing and contrasting Apollo 11 (she attended the launch in person) with Woodstock which happened about three weeks later. I originally read the essay in her collection "The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution", but I think it's been repackaged. I think the new collection is called "Return of the Primitive" or something like that. I tried to find the text online, and found this recording of a lecture instead. I have not yet listened to it. http://aynrandlexicon.com/ayn-rand-works/apollo-dionysus.html Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (1ijHg) Posted by: IPCC at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (rVQpn) 173
169 clearly some math involved.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (e3bId) 174
"When are we going to have an honest conversation about space racism?"
He was slithering away with his tentacles in the air when the racist Galactic Patrol blasted him from behind with their disintegrator rays! Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (noWW6) 175
165 Anyone who comes here needs to have their head(s) examined.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (e3bId) Absolutely. Aliens have probably sailed by, taken a look at us, then rolled up the windows, locked the doors, and hit the gas. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (oKE6c) 176
ah
was looking for the Indian prophecy thing it was the Hopi, and because we brought moon rocks back to earth Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (Cq0oW) 177
169 clearly some math involved.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:56 PM (e3bId) Which is why I'm not involved Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 08:57 PM (TEpA2) 178
O/T ace must live in NYC. Nobody gives a shit about #cuckservative or Gabe Malor.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo **** Cuckservative? What a bunch of Cucksockers. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 08:57 PM (YGnSA) 179
Can we please stop making Uranus jokes? We need some decorum and manners on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Col. Angus at July 24, 2015 08:58 PM (j1Wvr) 180
[I don't have a science background, so I find it amazing how they can calculate the "planetary assist" right.
Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 08:55 PM (TEpA2) You could check with any "studies" major to find out how to calculate it wrong. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 08:58 PM (oKE6c) 181
Vendette, are we to be denied CFL tonight?
Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 08:58 PM (z0HrT) 182
Can we please stop making Uranus jokes? We need some decorum and manners on this smart military blog.
Posted by: Col. Angus Is Uranus suffering from asteroids? Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 24, 2015 08:59 PM (rVQpn) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 09:00 PM (XYw4l) 184
Anyone who comes here needs to have their head(s) examined. Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:53 PM (e3bId) ....................................... We need a new program to provide counseling, support and financial aid for Disillusioned Aliens. Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:00 PM (wAQA5) 185
wait
you guys realize what this means? we can win the culture wars if we sling the moon rocks back into space! Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 09:01 PM (Cq0oW) 186
179 No. I cannot. I've come to look at making Uranus jokes as my purpose in life.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (e3bId) 187
Can we please stop making Uranus jokes? ........................... Really. My 15 minutes of fame only lasted 10. Posted by: Pluto at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (wAQA5) 188
We need a new program to provide counseling, support and financial aid for Disillusioned Aliens.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:00 PM (wAQA5) And don't forget the alien "Dreamers," who will commit the crimes others will not commit. Oh wait, we've already got those. Never mind. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: Hillary! at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (JoIcn) 190
There is one problem with your idea Bigby, some of the rocks in the ensuing decades have been either lost or stolen.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (XYw4l) 191
Vendette, are we to be denied CFL tonight?
Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 08:58 PM (z0HrT) Yes. Although on the 30th ESPN2 will show BC at Winnipeg (yay for you) and on the 31st the Roughriders at the Eskimos (as an aside, the anniversary of the July 31, 1987 F4 tornado that wiped out parts of Edmonton and suburbs). To plan ahead: Argonauts and TiCats on August 3, and Esks at Lions on the 6th. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (TEpA2) 192
And as proof that we are in decline, when did they stop putting the little dotted line perforation on graham crackers?
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (e3bId) 193
I was 14 in 1969. Was fortunate to grow up in Orlando in that era. Dave Scott and John Young, two of the twelve men who would go on to walk on the moon, came to my school (R.E. Lee Jr High) in 1968 and gave a presentation in the auditorium, I will never forget it. A line formed afterward and they shook hands with every single student. We had hero`s in those days...real hero`s! I feel sorry for the kids of today, they have very few.
Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (eNo74) 194
We need a new program to provide counseling, support and financial aid for Disillusioned Aliens.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:00 PM (wAQA5) We need galactic EBT cards. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (oKE6c) 195
Caitlyn Jenner has a transgender religious naming ceremony with guests all dressed in white... and gets serenaded by Boy George
LOL! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 09:04 PM (iQIUe) 196
186 179 No. I cannot. I've come to look at making Uranus jokes as my purpose in life.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (e3bId) ~~~~~~~ With everyone's cooperation we can get this blog squared away lickity-split. Posted by: Col. Angus at July 24, 2015 09:04 PM (j1Wvr) 197
Moon Rocks and Pepsi killed Mikey.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:05 PM (S0Ca+) 198
We had heroes in those days...real heroes! I feel sorry for the kids of today, they have very few.
Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (eNo74) What about Michael Sam? Brucella Jenner? There ya go. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:05 PM (oKE6c) 199
193 I was 14 in 1969. Was fortunate to grow up in Orlando in that era. Dave Scott and John Young, two of the twelve men who would go on to walk on the moon, came to my school (R.E. Lee Jr High) in 1968 and gave a presentation in the auditorium, I will never forget it. A line formed afterward and they shook hands with every single student. We had hero`s in those days...real hero`s! I feel sorry for the kids of today, they have very few.
Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (eNo74) HEY! Get out of the left land, speed up, and turn your blinker off, grandpa! Posted by: mynewhandle at July 24, 2015 09:05 PM (AkOaV) 200
With everyone's cooperation we can get this blog squared away lickity-split.
Posted by: Col. Angus at July 24, 2015 09:04 PM (j1Wvr) Leave the WNBA out of this. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:06 PM (oKE6c) 201
Seriously, we don't want to leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.
Posted by: Col. Angus at July 24, 2015 09:07 PM (j1Wvr) 202
Enough with the ass jokes!
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at July 24, 2015 09:07 PM (JoIcn) 203
this was also the world of Ben Bova's privateeers, which was set in a world right around now, written in 1987, before the Wall came down, it predicted a rakish space tycoon, like a southern fried Musk, who runs his operations out of Venezuela, succeeded when an increasingly isolationist US had retreated from space,
leaving the Russians in the lead, to break the blockade of material from the asteroid belt, he comes a new fangled pirate, as the title goes, Posted by: narciso at July 24, 2015 09:08 PM (0u/CC) 204
Saturn V SA500F on launch pad as a Titan 3C launches from pad 41. 16 June 1966.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oztabx5 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 09:08 PM (XYw4l) 205
Ha!
Whenever someone asks what the underwing material on my Hoppers and Stoneflies is, I tell them it's Trans-Vaginal Mesh. Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:08 PM (S0Ca+) 206
" And as proof that we are in decline, when did they stop putting the little dotted line perforation on graham crackers?"
Box we have in the kitchen has them. Hi Vendette! Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 09:08 PM (VPLuQ) 207
Also, 46 years ago on this date, I filled a diaper with something strongly resembling, in both smell and texture, Indian food.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 24, 2015 09:10 PM (ppaKI) 208
They should perforate more foods.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:10 PM (S0Ca+) 209
HEY! Get out of the left land, speed up, and turn your blinker off, grandpa!
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 24, 2015 09:05 PM (AkOaV) ------ Hilarious...Thanks mnh...I am trying, but no one will let me over going 35 Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (eNo74) 210
And don't forget the alien "Dreamers," who will commit the crimes others will not commit. Oh wait, we've already got those. Never mind. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:02 PM (oKE6c) ........................................ Send 'em to SF, nobody will even notice they have four arms. Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (wAQA5) 211
I knew a guy who worked at the Cape during the Apollo program and he watched a Saturn V launch from a telemetry station near the 2 mile limit. He said when it launched, you couldn't stand unassisted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (e3bId) 212
Whenever someone asks what the underwing material on my Hoppers and Stoneflies is, I tell them it's Trans-Vaginal Mesh.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:08 PM (S0Ca+) We're gonna sue! Posted by: Commercials during court shows at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (TEpA2) 213
202 Enough with the ass jokes!
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at July 24, 2015 09:07 PM (JoIcn) ~~~~~~~ Here, here! I like the cut of your jib. Posted by: Sir Eaton-Cox at July 24, 2015 09:12 PM (j1Wvr) Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:12 PM (e3bId) Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:12 PM (TEpA2) 216
Send 'em to SF, nobody will even notice they have four arms.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (wAQA5)/i] Is this a sanctuary planet? If so, they can send all of their space scum here, in an interplanetary version of the Mariel boatlift. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:12 PM (oKE6c) 217
Pirates v Nationals game is a Slugfest.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:13 PM (S0Ca+) 218
211 I knew a guy who worked at the Cape during the Apollo program and he watched a Saturn V launch from a telemetry station near the 2 mile limit. He said when it launched, you couldn't stand unassisted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (e3bId) Boy, they really partied hard in those days! Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:13 PM (oKE6c) 219
Pirates v Nationals game is a Slugfest. Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:13 PM (S0Ca+) I watch and something goes bad for the Nats. Watching something else... Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:15 PM (TEpA2) 220
>>>Is this a sanctuary planet? If so, they can send all of their space scum here, in an interplanetary version of the Mariel boatlift.
I've seen that movie. It ends with Kal-El shooting dozens of bad guys in his mansion while coked out of his mind. Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 24, 2015 09:15 PM (ppaKI) 221
Yeah. He was a programmer geek and his dad had something to do with the volatile fuels program.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:15 PM (e3bId) 222
217 Pirates v Nationals game is a Slugfest.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:13 PM (S0Ca+) ------ I recall one time we beat those pesky Nationals! Posted by: Bobby Cox at July 24, 2015 09:16 PM (eNo74) 223
If you want a laugh, Google "secret US space program", and enjoy the conspiracies that the gubmint has all these secret advanced tech and runs a secret space program using that secret tech. According that we've got bases on the Moon and Mars.
This crap tracks closely with the UFO nuts. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 24, 2015 09:16 PM (dvuhZ) 224
Two comments:
1. They were Fucking Viking Warrior Kings in Space Suits; and . . . 2. God, I'm getting old. Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2015 09:16 PM (72D6h) 225
Yes. Although on the 30th ESPN2 will show BC at Winnipeg (yay for you) and on the 31st the Roughriders at the Eskimos (as an aside, the anniversary of the July 31, 1987 F4 tornado that wiped out parts of Edmonton and suburbs).
To plan ahead: Argonauts and TiCats on August 3, and Esks at Lions on the 6th. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:03 PM (TEpA2) --Ooo, can't wait until next week! Bombers gonna choke, though. . . . Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 09:16 PM (w+XLb) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 09:17 PM (VPLuQ) 227
--Feh. Manned exploration is far too expensive and impractical. Look how much we learned last week about Pluto with a small, unmanned craft that cost a pittance compared to a manned expedition.
and what did we learn, that Pluto is orange and has ice mountains? We don't know why there are ice mountains but we have pictures. Wonderful return on investment there. Posted by: Nobody Interesting at July 24, 2015 09:17 PM (grZJE) 228
Go Cardinals!
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 24, 2015 09:17 PM (kqGWM) Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:18 PM (e3bId) 230
Young lady...
Don't "Sir" me, I used to work for a living. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 09:17 PM (VPLuQ) Sir, yes Sir! Go Navy! Beat Army! Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:18 PM (TEpA2) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (VPLuQ) 232
i just remember adults being glued to the TV
like when bands were on TV shows, but not as interesting to me but I was into Lincoln Logs, so... Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (Cq0oW) 233
Thanks Dave for remembering.
We lost my FIL last Friday. He was an engineer on the Apollo Program and was a big part of the "post mortem" team for Apollo 13. He was a fantastic guy and lived a wonderful life of accomplishment and service to his Country and the people around him. He will be sorely missed. The halcyon days of the Apollo program saw a collection of minds we sadly won't see again for maybe ever, R.I.P. C.E. Propp Jan 1928- July 2015 Back to my regularly scheduled lurking. Posted by: GasperGoo at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (y6Uwj) 234
>>>and what did we learn, that Pluto is orange and has ice mountains?
And that it's really far away - I mean, like, really far, like Florida from Utah far, dude. Posted by: American College Student at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (ppaKI) 235
211 I knew a guy who worked at the Cape during the Apollo program and he watched a Saturn V launch from a telemetry station near the 2 mile limit. He said when it launched, you couldn't stand unassisted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:11 PM (e3bId) I remember watching the first unmanned Saturn V test launch on November 9, 1967. Some of the acoustic tiles on the ceiling of the broadcast booth were falling down, and I can still hear Walter Cronkite saying, "Look at that rocket go!" I'm of a certain age where I only remember Cronkite for his spaceflight coverage, rather than his treachery during Tet. Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 09:21 PM (sdi6R) 236
But von Braun's dreams of colonizing Mars might never be realized until perhaps the 100th anniversary of the first Moon landing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 08:03 PM (XYw4l) Can we still get our flag back from Mars though? Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 09:22 PM (DiZBp) 237
I'd say we learned a lot from the Pluto flyby. Great returns
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 09:23 PM (Cq0oW) 238
Pretty good flats fishing around Merritt Island and Mosquito Lagoon, too!
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:23 PM (e3bId) 239
This crap tracks closely with the UFO nuts. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 24, 2015 09:16 PM (dvuhZ) ..................................... I resemble that remark. Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at July 24, 2015 09:24 PM (wAQA5) 240
R.I.P.
C.E. Propp Jan 1928- July 2015 Back to my regularly scheduled lurking. Posted by: GasperGoo at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (y6Uwj) ========= What a great life! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 09:24 PM (iQIUe) 241
237 I'd say we learned a lot from the Pluto flyby. Great returns
------ I would say you are more than just correct. Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:25 PM (eNo74) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 09:25 PM (XYw4l) 243
217 Pirates v Nationals game is a Slugfest.
Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:13 PM (S0Ca+) Sorry the game is so slow and boring. We're moving as fast as we can. Posted by: The slugs at July 24, 2015 09:25 PM (sdi6R) 244
I could see a contingent of morons going out on a moonless night into the desert and encountering UFOs. Would alcohol be involved? Of course!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 09:26 PM (iQIUe) 245
We lost my FIL last Friday. He was an engineer on
the Apollo Program and was a big part of the "post mortem" team for Apollo 13. He was a fantastic guy and lived a wonderful life of accomplishment and service to his Country and the people around him. He will be sorely missed. The halcyon days of the Apollo program saw a collection of minds we sadly won't see again for maybe ever, R.I.P. C.E. Propp Jan 1928- July 2015 Back to my regularly scheduled lurking. Posted by: GasperGoo at July 24, 2015 09:20 PM (y6Uwj) Don't lurk. Please contribute! The post-mortem for Apollo 13 must have been fascinating. He and others brought Apollo 13 back safely. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:27 PM (TEpA2) 246
Fun Fact: Werhner Von Braun is buried in Alexandria, Virginia.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:28 PM (e3bId) 247
I could see a contingent of morons going out on a moonless night into the desert and encountering UFOs. Would alcohol be involved? Of course!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! Or possibly that funny looking cactus we just ate. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 24, 2015 09:28 PM (rVQpn) 248
And, of course, the African tribes had reached the
Moon 4,000 years ago and the honkies only got there by stealing the work of the Black Man. This has been a Nat X History Moment. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (oVJmc) Well if we didn't steal it all then our white privilege would be all shot to hell Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 09:28 PM (DiZBp) 249
We traded the stars for the Great Society.
Posted by: Butch at July 24, 2015 09:28 PM (ZBLDM) 250
>>>Is this a sanctuary planet? ............................ Yes. All beings with four arms will be flipping burgers All beings with six arms will be given three leaf blowers. All beings with suction cups will be washing windows. Any questions? Get in line! Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:29 PM (wAQA5) 251
Missing Apollo 18 Saturn five launch vehicle is rumored to be orbiting in the deep space field between Lena Dunham`s legs...that is all.
Posted by: NASA UPDATE at July 24, 2015 09:29 PM (eNo74) 252
No CFL tonight...?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 24, 2015 09:30 PM (/QgGG) 253
What's shameful is Buzz Aldrin having to hawk timeshares awhile back to earn a living.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 24, 2015 09:30 PM (KkliO) 254
We traded the stars for the Great Society.
Posted by: Butch at July 24, 2015 09:28 PM (ZBLDM) More like ingrate society Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 09:30 PM (DiZBp) 255
No CFL tonight...?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 24, 2015 09:30 PM (/QgGG) See my post at 191. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:31 PM (TEpA2) 256
could see a contingent of morons going out on a moonless night into the desert and encountering UFOs. Would alcohol be involved? Of course!
====== we could meet up at the Val U Rite derricks in Utah! Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 09:31 PM (Cq0oW) 257
252 No CFL tonight...?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 24, 2015 09:30 PM (/QgGG) --Alas, no. See Vendette's post above. Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 09:31 PM (z0HrT) 258
>>>and what did we learn, that Pluto is orange and has
ice mountains? We don't know why there are ice mountains but we have pictures. Posted by: Nobody Interesting at July 24, 2015 09:17 PM (grZJE)<<< **sigh** I sure miss home. And "why ice mountains?"... for the Scotch, duh! Posted by: John Boehner at July 24, 2015 09:32 PM (7zE/G) 259
"I could see a contingent of morons going out on a moonless night into the desert and encountering UFOs. Would alcohol be involved? "
My camp partner last week swears up and down to have seen a UFO. Said a solid light was going across the sky and made a split-second 90 degree turn without changing speed. I was already kinda lit and missed it. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 24, 2015 09:32 PM (/QgGG) 260
Yeah, the US Space Program has deteriorated to . . .
MATT DAMON!!!!!! in . . . The Martian: http://preview.tinyurl.com/MATT-DAMON-The-Martian Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2015 09:33 PM (72D6h) 261
we could meet up at the Val U Rite derricks in Utah!
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 09:31 PM (Cq0oW) We could set up markers in the desert warning the aliens to stay away and save themselves. Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 24, 2015 09:34 PM (oKE6c) 262
Oh well.....the nation and people that accomplished the moon landings is no longer. Now it's Uber, Bruce's wang, everybody is or was or wants to be rayciss, dead old southern guys, fags getting married and Popes who want to commie.
But cheer up! Patakai is running for Preezy! Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2015 09:34 PM (JG47A) 263
We should do a re-enactment of the Bart Sibral incident. We can do it over several times, in slo mo and from various angles. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 09:35 PM (iQIUe) 264
I'll mention that if you visit Arlington National Cemetery, across from the Amphitheater (which on the other side has the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier) and between the mainmast of the USS Maine there is a plot with graves from the Challenger and Columbia astronauts.
Near the Tomb is Audie Murphy's grave. Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:36 PM (TEpA2) Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 09:36 PM (S0Ca+) 266
That five gallon bucket of Val-u-Rite Vodka for 12.99 is a hell of a deal...Unfortunately the five gallon bucket of Red-Bull set my girlfriend back $150.00 bucks...hey, she offered to buy the mixer!
Posted by: TBD at July 24, 2015 09:38 PM (eNo74) Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 09:40 PM (z0HrT) 268
But cheer up! Patakai is running for Preezy! Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2015 09:34 PM (JG47A) ....................... "The Kasich Juggernaut!" - Mark Levin Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:40 PM (wAQA5) 269
>>Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 09:27 PM (TEpA2)
Thanks. We came across the Apollo 13 report while going through things to settle his affairs. Of course I'll have to bone up on my thermodynamics, etc to wade through it, lol. He was a very humble guy and we did not realize all he had been a part of until we heard some of the stories at his service. Posted by: GasperGoo at July 24, 2015 09:42 PM (y6Uwj) 270
But cheer up! Patakai is running for Preezy!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2015 09:34 PM (JG47A) ....................... "The Kasich Juggernaut!" - Mark Levin Posted by: wth Tanned, rested and...um...uh... Posted by: Rick Perry at July 24, 2015 09:42 PM (rVQpn) 271
>>>But cheer up! Patakai is running for Preezy!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2015 09:34 PM (JG47A) ....................... "The Kasich Juggernaut!" - Mark Levin Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:40 PM (wAQA5)<<< Those clowns have no shot. Posted by: Miss Lindsay Graham at July 24, 2015 09:43 PM (7zE/G) 272
269 that is very cool.
Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 09:45 PM (e3bId) 273
We haven't heard from Ace since early last thread, have we? Maybe somebody can go check on him before he goes blind from the Valu-Rite? I hope he's not off wondering if he should just shut the place down because of the racist mess.
Posted by: Agent J at July 24, 2015 09:46 PM (ueOgE) 274
Not to Trump the thread, but Trump blames the GOP for the 2008 financial meltdown. Just said it today.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 09:46 PM (YGnSA) 275
Wow. Morons be slipping up.
Didn't the astronaut find a bottle with a hot Genie inside? http://tinyurl.com/p2kalzy Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 24, 2015 09:47 PM (Wfr+s) 276
Tanned, rested and...um...uh... Posted by: Rick Perry at July 24, 2015 09:42 PM (rVQpn) ................................. [ .] [. ] Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 09:48 PM (wAQA5) 277
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 09:46 PM (YGnSA)
Stupid is as stupid does - Forest Trump Posted by: Cruzinator at July 24, 2015 09:49 PM (KkliO) 278
Bernie Sanders. Anyone else excited about Bernie Sanders? I know I am.
Yes, he sucks donkey balls, but the point is how he sucks those equine danglers. With every slurp, with every little tentative venture of teeth, he sucks those donkey balls in a way that annoys Hillary. And I salute him for it. Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2015 09:49 PM (qyomX) 279
My soon-to-be father in law was in the Navy task force that picked Apollo 11 and 12 out of the water. Dunno what he did or what ship he was on.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, Trophy Chapter at July 24, 2015 09:51 PM (UQGss) 280
to be fair, he was talking to morning joke,
Posted by: admiral marcus at July 24, 2015 09:51 PM (0u/CC) 281
You've got to love this: I just learned the Sanhedrin has summoned Obama and Kerry for trial for crimes against the Jewish people due to the Iran deal.
You may remember the classical Sanhedrin. There have been a couple attempts to revive it, and this body is the latest one, but it has no authority in Israeli law, of course. It's just a group of rabbis claiming such authority. But I love it. O and Kerry are supposed to appear before the Sanhedrin on Sept. 9 and answer the charges. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 24, 2015 09:52 PM (dvuhZ) 282
213 Here, here! I like the cut of your jib.
Posted by: Sir Eaton-Cox at July 24, 2015 09:12 PM (j1Wvr) Exactly. It's about time this place acquired some class. Posted by: Phil McRevvis at July 24, 2015 09:52 PM (EHU9F) 283
24 a small, unmanned craft that cost a pittance compared to a manned expedition.
BUT, how many school lunches would that money have bought? ----------- One small mistake there - you should have signed off as "Walter Mondale, NASA slayer and mentor to the progenitor of the housing crisis, Jim Johnson" Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at July 24, 2015 09:53 PM (Wnbnz) Posted by: Bernie! 2016 at July 24, 2015 09:55 PM (7zE/G) 285
"Not to Trump the thread, but Trump blames the GOP for the 2008 financial meltdown. Just said it today."
That isn't accurate history, but given that Trump is basically running against the entire GOP for the GOP nomination, it's smart politics. Also, if you read Matt Latimer's book about how things looked from inside the Bush White House at the time, it's clear that a lot of senior GOP figures, Bush included, were way out of their depth in dealing with both the leadup to the meltdown, and then the meltdown itself. Latimer relates that even during the apparently normal years leading up to the meltdown, Bush was obsessed with knowing what the price of the Dow was, and was constantly yelling to aides several times a day to get him the latest numbers. That's a pretty damn shallow level of macroeconomic analysis. Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 09:55 PM (noWW6) 286
Bernie Sanders and all other Socialists - national, international, and fabian - are by definitions traitors and domestic enemies of the Constitution.
I hope he has a stroke and ends up eating his own feces in an institution. Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 09:55 PM (PD0dM) 287
We went to the Moon? Dude! I must have been sooooo wasted! Posted by: Rick "Banging the Gong Around" Perry Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2015 09:56 PM (kdS6q) 288
If they remade I Dream of Jeannie, "Jeannie" would be a tranny.
Her "Master" would be a rad-fem who found the bottle washed up on the beach. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2015 09:56 PM (YGnSA) 289
...with a plastic spork.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 09:57 PM (PD0dM) 290
Feel the Bern!
Posted by: Preparation H at July 24, 2015 09:58 PM (W5DcG) 291
Apollo 11 would have been more successful if it were more racially diverse.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (z0HrT) My wife watches the Astronaut's Wives Club. That's basically the whole show. Why can't womyn be astronauts. Look at how racist the space program is. Not exactly The Right Stuff Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 09:59 PM (DiZBp) 292
Supposed to be a tequila drinkin' in the ONT. Get ready for it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, Trophy Chapter at July 24, 2015 10:00 PM (UQGss) 293
291 Apollo 11 would have been more successful if it were more racially diverse.
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (z0HrT) My wife watches the Astronaut's Wives Club. That's basically the whole show. Why can't womyn be astronauts. Look at how racist the space program is. Not exactly The Right Stuff Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 09:59 PM (DiZBp) --Wow. Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 10:01 PM (z0HrT) 294
Ace is playing on twitter, drawing out the loonies. He's like the Pam Geller of Twitter. If only he had the big boobs, too. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 10:01 PM (iQIUe) 295
R.I.P., C.E. Propp.
May perpetual light shine upon him. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 24, 2015 10:01 PM (cN9Sk) 296
Why going to the moon wasn't really that great!
Posted by: VOX at July 24, 2015 10:02 PM (ln4QS) 297
Ace is playing on twitter, drawing out the loonies. He's like the Pam Geller of Twitter. If only he had the big boobs, too.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 10:01 PM (iQIUe) Do not talk about the Canadian $1 coin like that! Posted by: Vendette at July 24, 2015 10:03 PM (TEpA2) 298
If I was head of NASA, I'd have terraformed colonized Uranus by now.
Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at July 24, 2015 10:04 PM (DFWZ3) Sulu beat you to Uranus and a lot of other anuses too Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 24, 2015 10:05 PM (DiZBp) 299
On board Apollo 15 was an astronaut named James Irwin.
I mention him because, of all the humans to walk on the Moon, he was the only one who was not a Boy Scout. Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 24, 2015 10:06 PM (xq1UY) 300
@301
Huma, that pic supposedly of Merkel that was up on Drudge, that was really you & Hills, wasn't it? Posted by: Agent J at July 24, 2015 10:08 PM (ueOgE) 301
If I was head of NASA, I'd have terraformed colonized Uranus by now. Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson ....................................... Promises, promises. Posted by: Muslim Scientist at July 24, 2015 10:10 PM (wAQA5) 302
298 If I was head of NASA, I'd have terraformed & colonized Uranus by now.
Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at July 24, 2015 10:04 PM (DFWZ3) That sounds kind of rapey. Posted by: The slugs at July 24, 2015 10:10 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 10:11 PM (sdi6R) 304
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 09:55 PM (noWW6)
Once again you're full of shit . BDS at its worse. Posted by: Cruzinator at July 24, 2015 10:12 PM (KkliO) 305
Wow. Morons be slipping up.
Didn't the astronaut find a bottle with a hot Genie inside? http://tinyurl.com/p2kalzy Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 24, 2015 09:47 PM (Wfr+s) Cape Canaveral AFS has a small museum with a display case filled with "I Dream of Jeannie" memorabilia. Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 10:19 PM (NaeCR) 306
Years after the moon landing my oldest (now estranged) brother told me he took LSD for the first time that night. At that time it seemed appropriate to me that he stared at the moon for a while.
But he also became fascinated with a weird Christmas light bulb we had. It was a little bigger than a golf ball and covered with a crust of plastic that looked like little crystals. And it glowed green. I was puzzled why he pulled it out from the Christmas stuff, found a cord for it and stood turning it over and over again in his hands. (It was a really neat Christmas light but I wondered in my 11 year old brain WTF.) Sadly, my brother was never quite right even before that day. The last I heard the VA was helping him. I guess that in one way his later periodic LSD trips helped him because he really cut back on his violence. But it's hard to cure crazy, and crazy he was from the day he was born. It just took me about 15 years to figure it out, and after that I spent a long time in denial. So every anniversary of the moon landing I reminisce about that strange night and wonder where my brother is. Posted by: Ed Anger at July 24, 2015 10:31 PM (RcpcZ) 307
The first stage of the Saturn V burned kerosene in liquid oxygen because it gave a better propellant fraction than an LH2/LOX rocket. The other stages burned LH2/LOX because that propellant gives the best specific impulse of any ordinary liquid fueled rocket propellant. That is also why the space shuttle uses that propellant combination.
I don't know what the Isp of propellants like LH2/LFl2 or LH2/Ozone is, although I suspect I could look it up in my propulsion textbook. I do know that they've been tested, but found to be way too dangerous to actually use for anything. Posted by: R. Kipling at July 24, 2015 10:38 PM (Tb8YD) 308
yeah don't be using liquid fluorine, sheesh
Posted by: SJW at July 24, 2015 10:50 PM (2XMpf) 309
oops sock/off
Posted by: chemjeff at July 24, 2015 10:51 PM (2XMpf) Posted by: Rose at July 24, 2015 11:11 PM (uSM1W) 311
As I understand it, a Liquid Fluorine/Liquid Hydrogen rocket engine was built and ran successfully. The problem with that particular propellant is that it produces Hydrogen Fluoride, which is not only deadly in moderate quantities, but it etches glass. So, after they ran it, someone had to go and polish the windows used to observe the test run. A grad student, of course.
Posted by: R. Kipling at July 24, 2015 11:19 PM (Tb8YD) 312
Vendette, calculating a gravity assist was, as I recall, two questions in one homework assignment and not on the final when I took orbital mechanics. Using the "spheres of influence" model, it's really a piece of cake to do.
Posted by: R. Kipling at July 24, 2015 11:22 PM (Tb8YD) 313
In 1950, I was a 10 year old farm boy and one Saturday afternoon after a visit to our nearby city, we took in a movie. It was "Destination Moon" and it captured my imagination in a very big way. I then dreamed about space travel and wondered if it would ever become a reality. Surprisingly it did happen and I only had to wait about 19 years to see the day. But now as I look back, I realize it has been 46 years since that greatest day of my life.
(you can still see the movie Destination Moon" right now on YouTube) Posted by: 2soonold2latesmart at July 25, 2015 12:40 AM (Sot2r) 314
In my opinion, kerosene and liquid oxygen are still the best combination for a first stage, because of the large volume of propellants required. They are dirt cheap and relatively easy to handle. Propellants are the majority of the mass of a launch vehicle, but only a small part of the cost of a launch.
The theoretical best combination for performance are liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, but liquid hydrogen is difficult to handle and store, and consequently more expensive. It is better suited for upper stages, which require much smaller amounts of propellant. Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2015 12:45 AM (sdi6R) 315
313 As I understand it, a Liquid Fluorine/Liquid Hydrogen rocket engine was built and ran successfully. The problem with that particular propellant is that it produces Hydrogen Fluoride, which is not only deadly in moderate quantities, but it etches glass. So, after they ran it, someone had to go and polish the windows used to observe the test run. A grad student, of course.
Posted by: R. Kipling at July 24, 2015 11:19 PM (Tb8YD) Can't read that without remembering this: https://tinyurl.com/2lv494 Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2015 01:47 AM (sdi6R) 316
Imagine living in a country like that.
Posted by: NYC Peasant at July 25, 2015 10:15 AM (Pxz7k) 317
"It was a mere 66 years from Kitty Hawk to the moon"
Actually it was a mere 68 years from Bridgeport, Ct to the moon. Posted by: Gustave Whitehead at July 25, 2015 10:28 AM (3rsUL) 318
I was 15 at that time and thought our American future was going to be just like that only more, faster, better.
Stupid ass kid. Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 25, 2015 11:40 AM (PtuJp) 319
And in 2015, under the leadership of Barry "Bath House" Bumblefuck, we hitch rides into space with the Russians.
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