Saturday Politics Thread: July 25th News Roundup [Y-not]

Good morning, horde! I was traveling most of this week, so I thought today I'd do a news roundup, focusing on positive stories from each* of the campaigns.

First up, let's check in on Scott Walker, who is the best-polling conservative in the race at this early stage of the primary (particularly in Iowa). Governor Walker gave a major address at ALEC last week. (The American Legislative Exchange Council is an organization of state legislators that endorses pro-growth policies such as Right-to-Work. Governor Walker was a member of ALEC when he was in the Wisconsin legislature.) I wasn't able to find a transcript of his speech, but you can watch it here.

Walker also had an exchange with an illegal alien family during an appearance at a manufacturing plant in Dubuque, Iowa last week:

A video that captured the exchange between Walker and the Wisconsin resident shows Walker expressing sympathy for the man's plight, but repeatedly reiterating, "We are a nation of laws."
"The president 22 times before last November said he can't do what he did," Walker said. "He ignored the law."
An activist from Wisconsin's Voces de la Frontera, as identified by the Washington Post, sought to interrupt Walker but the governor said he wanted to speak only to the family. The illegal immigrant parent also asked about whether Walker would deport him and separate him from his family.
"Going forward, we got to fix the system, that starts with securing the border," Walker said. "We've got to enforce the law and then we go forward with a legal immigration system that puts a priority on families here in America."

I honestly don't know what he means by putting a "priority on families here in America." Does he mean U.S. citizens or does he mean reuniting families "divided" by illegal immigration? I hope it is the former as it seems as if the "families first" approach from the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 is at the heart of our current immigration policies (and failures).

Late last week, there was good news for Governor Perry:

Former Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, who is seeking the Republican nomination for president, received some good news regarding his legal problems on Friday when an appeals court in his state dropped one of the two felony charges he is facing.
Mr. Perry was indicted last summer on criminal charges of abuse of power and coercion of a public servant. The case surrounds an episode during which Mr. Perry was accused of trying to use his powers as governor to make an elected official step down after being charged with drunken driving.
The case has been a nuisance for Mr. Perry as he looks to gain traction in a crowded field of Republicans seeking the party's presidential nomination.
On Friday, the Austin court dismissed the coercion of a public servant charge against Mr. Perry on the grounds that violates his right to free speech under the First Amendment.
"Because the First Amendment bars enforcement of the statute on which the "coercion of a public servant" charge is based, that charge must be dismissed," Judge Bert Richardson wrote in an opinion.

He's been quietly doing a lot of retail politicking. He's also given two major speeches over the past few weeks. The first one, which was given at the National Press Club and was extremely well-received, addressed the Democrats' failed economic policies and their impact on black Americans.

The other major speech was delivered last week. Although this latter speech has been discussed in terms of its criticisms of Donald Trump's candidacy (and there is plenty of that in the speech), a deeper reading (text here) reveals the core themes of Perry's campaign, as well as firepower aimed squarely at Democrats. For example:

We have tried the policies of the progressive left for the last six and a half years. The Democratic candidates for president could offer them for the next eight.
Their failures are self-evident. We have never spent more money on welfare in the history of our nation, with few results to show for it.
One in five children now live in families on food stamps. This is not a success of the Obama recovery, but the evidence of its failure. Millions have stopped looking for work, and are uncounted in the unemployment rate. Over-regulation has frozen access to credit from community banks, harming small businesses. ObamaCare has decreased healthcare choices, and premiums have skyrocketed.
And for all the liberals' talk about income inequality, the fact is their own policies of over-regulation make the cost of living exorbitant for single moms and small business owners in blue states like California and New York.
They have mastered the politics of grievance, when in reality Americans are the victim of their policies that caused the housing crash, that have produced the slowest recovery since the Great Depression, that have caused a precipitous increase in the cost of college tuition.
The Democrats see the problems of their own party's making and offer to double down on them.
Now Senator Sanders says college tuition should be "free." But as we know, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Forcing taxpayers to hand more of their money over to colleges will only incentivize those colleges to raise their prices even further.
Secretary Clinton is now talking about profit-sharing. I believe in profit-sharing.
Many of America's best companies, like Whole Foods and Apple to name just two, use profit sharing and stock options to reward their workers.
But history shows that when government gets involved, there are fewer profits to be shared.

Although I agree with Michael Gerson's characterization of Perry's criticisms of Trump, I think it's time for the governor to ease off of mentions of The Donald and focus all of his energy on communicating the positive, pro-growth and pro-security messages of his campaign. You can review what Rick Perry's top priorities are here.

Governor Bobby Jindal spent the end of the week dealing with the aftermath of a terrible shooting in Lafayette, Louisiana. Earlier in the week he was campaigning in Iowa. He also participated in RFD-TV's "Rural Town Hall:"

Highlights from the hour-long forum included select questions presented by attending agricultural organizations for the Governor.
Monte Shaw from America's Renewable Future and Iowa Renewable Fuels Association addressed the Governor concerning biotechnology and the economy specific to the Renewable Fuel Standard, and asked if the Governor would keep the RFS in place through 2022. Governor Jindal responded by stating that he supports the renewable fuels standard, but he would like to see the industry stand on its own. He went on to state that he supports the gradual phase out of the RFS and above all would like to see a "level playing field for everybody" in the energy industry. "When I was in Congress I voted for the RFS and I support the production of ethanol to diversify our fuel sources. I think all those fuels are an important part of our energy security and for growing our economy."
Linh Ta of the Des Moines Register questioned the Governor about his disavowment of the Common Core in education and asked what steps he is taking to ensure students graduate from Louisiana high schools, ready to successfully enter the work force. Governor Jindal, who opposes the Common Core program, said education is not the Federal Government's job. "You wouldn't want the Federal Government defining American history standards, so why in the world would we want a one size fits all approach to ELA and math?," stated Governor Jindal. "The best form of accountability is trusting moms and dads who know their kids needs best. When you give parents choices they'll find the best fit for their kids and competition works."

I like Governor Jindal and would happily vote for him in the primary, but I am not sure I see a path for him to break into the top tier of candidates. (I hope I'm wrong.)

One annoying aspect of the recent media circus surrounding Donald Trump is that candidates like Carly Fiorina are getting less coverage. Last week during an interview on CNN she took Hillary Clinton to task for her extreme pro-abortion views:

Let's talk about the legislation that's sitting on the senate floor right now, which does allow for [exceptions for rape and incest]. Let's also talk about Hillary Clinton's position. Let's talk about what extreme is. "It's not a life until it leaves the hospital." That's Hillary Clinton's position. It's Hillary Clinton's position that a thirteen year old girl needs her mother's permission to go to a tanning salon or get a tattoo, but not to get an abortion. It's Hillary Clinton's position that women should not be permitted to look at an ultrasound before an abortion, and yet people are trying to harvest body parts can use an ultasound to make sure those body parts are preserved so they can be sold. That, Jake, is extreme.

I still wish Ms. Fiorina had a longer public record and clearer explanation of what she would do if elected (there's really nothing but biographical material and news items on her campaign website), but I admit I am warming up to her as a Vice Presidential option... with the right Presidential nominee.

Perry-Fiorina has a nice ring to it.

Over at Powerline, Steven Hayward suggests that Rand Paul may also be getting hurt by Trump's media antics. It does seem as though the news from Rand's campaign has been harder to come by. Of course, part of that probably stems from his "day job" in the U.S. Senate, including recent hearings about the Obama administration's Iran deal.

He did, however, make a brief hit in the news cycle by destroying the tax code. Literally.

Like Senator Paul, Ted Cruz has split his time between the campaign trail and his day job. At an event outside the White House, the senator (verbally) sparred with a Code Pink activist.

Also last week, Senator Cruz took aim at Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in what has been described as a blistering speech on the Senate floor:

During a speech from the Senate floor on Friday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) blasted Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in direct terms on an arcane topic. "What we just saw today was an absolute demonstration that not only what [McConnell] told every Republican senator, but what he told the press over and over and over again was a simple lie," Cruz said. "We know now that when the majority leader looks us in the eyes and makes an explicit commitment, that he is willing to say things that he knows are false."
At issue was McConnell's handling of the Export-Import Bank, a contentious, if little-understood vehicle for facilitating American business interests internationally. Cruz's speech eventually expanded outward, accusing his peers of corruption and cronyism, of sacrificing working mothers and miners, who don't have lobbyists, in favor of corporate interests.

Like Rand and Ted, Marco Rubio has been busy on the Hill. He also appeared on Fox News for an interview during which he stated that no one running for president has more experience on the issues confronting this country than he does. (I admit, it's statements like that -- which I find to be patently untrue to the point of comedy -- that really turn me off from his candidacy. If there's an argument for first-term Senator Rubio, it's not that he is the most experienced in the field.)

Finally, via BaseballCrank (Dan McLaughlin) on Twitter, here's a Gallup snapshot of the favorability and familiarity quotients for the current crop of GOP hopefuls:

Trump is by far the best-known, but Rubio's the best-liked. Poor George Pataki. http://t.co/Ce3psR5psT pic.twitter.com/15b7L9vyvw
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) July 24, 2015

Kasich Fever doesn't seem to have caught on yet.

*"Each of the campaigns" that I felt like covering (or had the time to cover).

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:35 AM

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1 The illegal immigrant parent also asked about whether Walker would deport him and separate him from his family.

So who's fucking fault is this?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2015 07:43 AM (oVJmc)

2 Earlier than usual today because of some Life Stuff I have to take care of in meatspace.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 07:44 AM (RWGcK)

3 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 25, 2015 07:46 AM (KCxzN)

4 I honestly don't know what he means by putting a "priority on families here in America."

I read it as, fix the broken system, Priority 1 (maybe fence, fix it), then new Priority 1, (e.g. uphold the darn laws and re-enforce that at the border), etc.

Shifting priorities until, then, having to deal with families illegally here.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 07:48 AM (qCMvj)

5 >>Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 07:48 AM (qCMvj)

That may be it.

I've found him a little hard to gauge on some issues, including this one.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 07:50 AM (RWGcK)

6 Walker should have said, we have laws against people jumping ahead in line to enter this country.

Posted by: redenzo at July 25, 2015 07:51 AM (WCnJW)

7 I'd like to think ol' Rick has it in him and can turn it around but, man.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 07:51 AM (/QgGG)

8 Maybe Trump will force some of these jackalopes to up their game.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2015 07:53 AM (oVJmc)

9 "So who's fucking fault is this?"

The answer should be "If you've broken the laws of this country then there are consequences you will have to face. No different than anyone else."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 07:54 AM (/QgGG)

10 It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a policy which would reunite illegal immigrants with the families remaining in the originating country.

Let me doodle something on this napkin for a minute, and see what I can come up with.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 07:54 AM (VPLuQ)

11 @10
Unpossible! LOL

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 07:55 AM (RWGcK)

12 done with perry......the three i like are cruz, walker and i can't believe i'm saying this....fiorina....

cruz because he just gets it.....he's not going to bullshit us....and he explained his stupid trade vote......walker because he hasn't done enough yet to piss me off and fiorina because she is actually staying on topic and not worrying about trump......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 25, 2015 07:55 AM (0O7c5)

13 'The illegal immigrant parent also asked about whether Walker would deport him and separate him from his family'

No because I would deport your whole damn family.

Posted by: Scott Walker's evil twin at July 25, 2015 07:56 AM (BO/km)

14 McConnell kicks Cruz off of crucial defense spending panel

http://huff.to/1MqIM7O

(Reposted from Willowed-end of last thread)

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 07:57 AM (TxJGV)

15 RFD's Rural Town Hall seems like a useful series. I think Jindal's was the first, but it'll be interesting to see how the others do.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 07:58 AM (RWGcK)

16 I think I've got Kasich fever this morning

*cough cough*

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 07:59 AM (2XMpf)

17 No because I would deport your whole damn family.

Posted by: Scott Walker's evil twin at July 25, 2015 07:56 AM (BO/km)

hellooooooooo evil twin!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 25, 2015 08:02 AM (0O7c5)

18 Off the subject: but interesting.
Houser flew a large Confederate flag on a flagpole outside his house for

a time, said neighbor Rick Chancey, but Houser later replaced it with a

smaller rebel battle flag.

I knew we could blame the CBF somehow!

Posted by: Colin at July 25, 2015 08:02 AM (dvwsD)

19 14 McConnell kicks Cruz off of crucial defense spending panel

Interesting. We'll see how Cruz reacts.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 25, 2015 08:03 AM (RhAFW)

20

friggin' huckabee

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:03 AM (qCMvj)

21 Patakamania isn't catching on? How can this be?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 08:05 AM (pir3m)

22 19 14 McConnell kicks Cruz off of crucial defense spending panel

Interesting. We'll see how Cruz reacts.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 25, 2015 08:03 AM (RhAFW)

Cruz doesn't understand that it takes two to lie: One to lie and one to listen.

Posted by: Mitch McConnlee at July 25, 2015 08:05 AM (HKyCl)

23 Perry called Trump and "Trumpism"(whatever the hell that is) "cancer". Simply unforgivable. Cancer kills millions every year, including near and dear to me. Perry broke Godwin's Law. He may as well have just called Trump "Hitler" or "ISIS". Perry can go jump in a lake.

Walker's a dope, sorry, I used to like him. He's for amnesty and he can't give a coherent answer on marijuana/states' rights.

Rubio? Pffffft. Gang of Eight stink is still all over him.

Jeb! is just Hillary in a man's suit.

Cruz. I love Cruz. But he won't be the nominee. He can be Trump's VP or AG.

Most of the above are Chamber of Commerce stooges. Trump is the only one who is not. So even if you don't like Trump, Trump is the only one who can stop Jeb! and the Chamber of Commerce's merry-go-round.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 25, 2015 08:05 AM (xetep)

24

For a positive? lol on Cruz.

Mine as well include his Simpson voice overs.

It's surreal, so ...

We Got Presidential Hopeful Ted Cruz To Do An Audition For "The Simpsons"

I know it's already made its rounds, but it's Saturday morning, and I have A LOT of tomatoes to deal with today.

http://bzfd.it/1JEKMUT

GOP presidential hopeful Ted Cruz isn't just a conservative firebrand. He's also a huge fan of The Simpsons.

With voice actor Harry Shearer leaving the show, we got Sen. Cruz to audition for popular characters like Ned Flanders and Mr. Burns.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:07 AM (qCMvj)

25 There's plenty of time for any of the candidates to make big moves, but at this point I think a few things are clear...

Rick Perry is totally fucked and will not be a factor in this race.

Bobby Jindal just doesn't have the personality to make it in national politics.

Donald Trump has shown the way to the White House is through right-leaning populism with open hostility towards the press.

Carly Fiorina should have a school teaching conservatives how to handle the press. She just doesn't have the spark, the X factor to get her to the Presidency.

Ted Cruz may have found the key with his attack on the establishment. By combining conservative populism with fast thinking interview skills and the realization that the press is the enemy, Cruz is making a major move.

Walker and Rubio are waiting to see how this is going to play out, knowing that there is still a lot of time before anything matters.

All the others are just background noise now.

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2015 08:08 AM (P/xrJ)

26 That favorability/likability graph sure illustrates why so many of these dopes get gigs on Fox News and elsewhere.

Perry seems well-positioned. I was surprised by Fiorina's placement.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 08:09 AM (RWGcK)

27 McConnell kicks Cruz off of crucial defense spending panel

this proves McConnell doesn't care about having someone competent on the panel

this proves he's as big a dick as we imagined

this proves there is no "big tent"

this proves...

Man, I hate the GOP.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:12 AM (qCMvj)

28 who knew that to get the illegals to come out of the shadows all you had to do was be a candidate?

also The balls on these guys! they got no fear whatsoever about consequences so they troll the contenders for highest office!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 08:14 AM (Cq0oW)

29 There's plenty of time for any of the candidates to make big moves, but at this point I think a few things are clear...

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2015 08:08 AM (P/xrJ)

I see it more as makes big mistakes which gets them tossed or shamed, or disqualified.

Usually it's the negatives, not the positives, that kill the chances.

The dirt, or the stupidity, or the misspeak.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:14 AM (qCMvj)

30 A Republican candidate is confronted by an immigration "activist". The "activist", who of course has a couple of bambino props in tow, identifies himself as an "undocumented immigrant" and demands to know from the GOP candidate this or that about some emotionally charged issue that is really just an outgrowth of the "activist's" own previous choices.

The Republican candidate listens politely. Turns to the assembled gaggle of reporters, sighs heavily, and says,

"Ya ever notice how there's never a cop around when you need one? With the first step he took in this country this man committed a crime. He is teaching his kids every day that the ends justify the means, even if that means breaking the law. Our government has been helping him teach his kids that lesson. It is blind foolishness to expect such people to obey other laws. The skyrocketing crime rates in border communities prove that. Things will be different in my administration. We'll defend the border. We'll insist on a nation governed by the Rule of Law, not the Rule of convenience or the Rule of politics."

THAT's the GOP candidate I'd vote for. Alas...

Posted by: Rose at July 25, 2015 08:14 AM (uSM1W)

31 Perry-Fiorina has a nice ring to it.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Posted by: Call me Loretta at July 25, 2015 08:15 AM (OmBeX)

32 >> Ding! Ding! Ding!
>>
>> Posted by: Call me Loretta at July 25, 2015 08:15 AM

CALL GREG!

Posted by: Rosemary Lehmberg at July 25, 2015 08:16 AM (RWGcK)

33 "Man, I hate the GOP."

If I had just one Penny for every time I have seen this in a comment over the last couple of weeks alone, I would have a nice large wad of Cash.

This is also why those that are waiting for a Trump flame out are going to be disappointed. the mccrappy incidentent didn't do it. I don't see what can.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 08:16 AM (pir3m)

34 I like Cruz, he's explained his vote, and at this point I will take him at his word, but with a watchful eye on future statements and votes. He is smart, and has a good grasp, in my opinion, on what is frustrating the base. Here's his interview with Rush.

https://youtu.be/KvKqdueSCCQ

Posted by: spypeach at July 25, 2015 08:18 AM (KTiWT)

35 Rose it would have been great if they slapped some cuffs on the undocumented gentleman and hauled his ass off right in front of the cameras. That would put a stop to that foolishness.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:18 AM (BO/km)

36 Who we are really running against, for now, is the McConnell-Boehner DC cartel.

Who best fights and wins against the GOPe cartel?

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at July 25, 2015 08:18 AM (7GI9v)

37 I was surprised by Fiorina's placement.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 08:09 AM (RWGcK)

she did okay on favorable, but I am surprised by the familiarity -- I thought she was "sort of" a "household" name when it came to HP. But I guess lots of people never track business, and HP isn't as popular as it once was, generations ago.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:18 AM (qCMvj)

38 >>>>> Walker's a dope, sorry, I used to like him.

Yeah.... as long as I was reading about him, he was OK. now that I see and hear him, not so much. never thought he had much chance to begin with, though.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 08:18 AM (Cq0oW)

39 How does anyone here think Walker, who didn't go to college, is anywhere near electable in this day and age?

Yes, yes, you can debate how worthless the typical college degree is, but to the average lofo out there, this will automatically exempt Walker.

Posted by: chance at July 25, 2015 08:19 AM (w/p7Z)

40 How 'bout a series of fantasy matchups for Prez/VP?

Let me start...

Trump/Kinison

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 08:19 AM (VPLuQ)

41 Moo is that you by chance?

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:20 AM (BO/km)

42 How 'bout a series of fantasy matchups for Prez/VP?

Let me start...

Trump/Kinison
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 08:19 AM (VPLuQ)

I dunno. Have you watched that Bill Burr video in the sidebar, lol. He'd make a good VP.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:21 AM (qCMvj)

43 13 'The illegal immigrant parent also asked about whether Walker would deport him and separate him from his family'

No because I would deport your whole damn family.
_________________________-

Yes, they like to pretend that we are the ones separating them, when it was the illegal alien parents who made the decision to come here and break the law, and (in the now very rare instances when somebody actually gets deported), they are also the ones who make the decision to leave their U.S.-born kids here with other family members.

There is no reason why the illegal aliens can't take their kids back home with them, especially if they're Mexican nationals, which most of them are. Under Mexican law, Mexican children born to Mexican parents -- even if they are born in the U.S. -- are Mexican nationals and entitled to all the rights and privileges as any other Mexican national. IOW, these U.S.-born Mexican kids can go back to Mexico and be treated the same there as a Mexican-born kid would be. The only reason that their illegal aliens parents don't want to take them home with them is that they think they'll have a better (i.e. materially more comfortable) life here in the U.S. They don't want to lose access to all those "free" benefits they're enjoying here, at the expense of U.S. taxpayers.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2015 08:22 AM (kGrdk)

44 "I dunno. Have you watched that Bill Burr video in the sidebar, lol. He'd make a good VP."

Watched part, realized it was a Philadelphia audience, and bailed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 08:23 AM (VPLuQ)

45 How 'bout a series of fantasy matchups for Prez/VP?

Ok.

President: Me
Vice President: Kasper (my dog)

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:23 AM (BO/km)

46 This is also why those that are waiting for a Trump flame out are going to be disappointed. the mccrappy incidentent didn't do it. I don't see what can.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 08:16 AM (pir3m)

A comment of mine from the end of the last thread:

Sometimes I find the modern trend toward hero-worship in "conservative" politics ("Crooooz!, Roooobio!eleventy!, Walker!11!, Carson!!!!, just wait 'til Saracoooooda decides to run!") incredibly depressing, and frighteningly reminiscent of the Choom Boy phenomenon.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 07:23 AM (rCmeG)

You comparing apples to oranges and coming up lemons.

With Choom Boy, it is most definitely a cult of personality sold on a pack of lies (Obama's gonna pay my mortgage!).

On the other hand, you have conservatives looking for anyone -- ANYONE -- with spine who can fight both the government tyranny and the media corruption of lies by commission and lies by omission. We're not fanboys at all, just regular Americans hungry for somebody, anybody, who will represent us, the great unwashed American taxpayer, and not represent They the Government (and its weaponized bureaucracies and its propaganda media arm).

Seriously, who in government represents you? I know with my 3 Congressbastards, Schumer, Gillibrand and Crowley, I have no representation, but plenty of burdensome taxation paying for all their vote-buying schemes.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 08:25 AM (HEtQ3)

47 @39 Your concern has been noted. It was also rejected but was noted for the official record.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 08:25 AM (pir3m)

48 How does anyone here think Walker, who didn't go to college, is anywhere near electable in this day and age?
___________________

Walker went to college. He left in the last semester of his senior year, to take a job. If you think he would have learned more in that last semester of college than he learned in his job (and all his subsequent jobs), then you probably haven't been to college yourself.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2015 08:25 AM (kGrdk)

49 "President: Me
Vice President: Kasper (my dog)"

Just what we need...a VP who lays around, licks his nuts and constantly humps your le...........

Wait, let me think about this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 08:25 AM (VPLuQ)

50 Kasich will dissappoint as all good RINOs should.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 25, 2015 08:27 AM (rkGyQ)

51 Kasper has never tried to hump my leg but he has the nut licking thing down cold. I would send him on diplomatic missions.

Did I mention he's a German Shepherd?

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:28 AM (BO/km)

52 Kasper has never tried to hump my leg but he has the nut licking thing down cold. I would send him on diplomatic missions.

Did I mention he's a German Shepherd?

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:28 AM (BO/km)

53 I see it more as makes big mistakes which gets them tossed or shamed, or disqualified.
Usually it's the negatives, not the positives, that kill the chances.
The dirt, or the stupidity, or the misspeak.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:14 AM

Right now, all of them are heavily in minus territory, IMO. Most are in holes they can't climb out of, and a mere handful -- Cruz, Perry -- can redeem themselves if they put their big-boy pants on, step away from their consultants, and start acting like patriotic Americans who will Do the Right Thing.

Yeah, I like what Trump says, and wish everyone would support him until the other candidates get their minds right.

Cruz is just acting too damn dumb to be President (his Senate actions and absences show that), and Perry needs to get control over his mouth. Jindal is a good local politician, and I'd vote for him in a heartbeat if he was running for, say, mayor of Metarie. Paul, Kasich, Krispy Kreme and the rest need to just go away and stop cluttering up the field.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 08:28 AM (rCmeG)

54 "President: Me
Vice President: Kasper (my dog)"

If you can get on the ballot I might give it some thought.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 08:31 AM (/QgGG)

55 @25 jwest

Good assessment. I concur.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 25, 2015 08:32 AM (rkGyQ)

56 Right now, all of them are heavily in minus territory, IMO. Most are in holes they can't climb out of, and a mere handful -- Cruz, Perry -- can redeem themselves if they put their big-boy pants on, step away from their consultants, and start acting like patriotic Americans who will Do the Right Thing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 08:28 AM (rCmeG)

I don't see it that way.

Back away and compare most of them to Hillary or Sanders.

The worry I have is that no matter who is best qualified, or the best man or woman for the job, will never have a prayer, because they are up against big money, big chamber of commerce cartels, and the GOPe - who will try with all their might to destroy anyone that gets in the way of who they want in.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:32 AM (qCMvj)

57 I have often compared the failure theater of Republicans in DC to the exhibition games that the Harlem Globetrotters play for entertainment. The Republicans play the role of the Washington Generals, the people who make a comfortable living by losing basketball games to the Globetrotters.

I am now wondering if professional wrestling might be a better comparison. That would go a long way to explaining the Donald Trump phenomenon. Seriously, tell me that a Donald Trump interview comes across that much different from the lead up to a WWE Smackdown.

We now have the phenomenon of Ted Cruz coming out in public and telling the world that the US Senate is just as fake as professional wrestling and all the fans coming out to shout, no, no, the legislative debate in Congress is real, just like professional wrestling.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 25, 2015 08:32 AM (QHgTq)

58 The jails are full of criminals whose choices have separated them from their families.

Are we to let them go to in the interests of "keeping families together"?

Never mind. I know.

But what that really reveals is that no one in the governing class really thinks of illegal immigration as being a "crime" crime.

THAT's the problem that requires fixing.

Posted by: Rose at July 25, 2015 08:33 AM (uSM1W)

59 Walker's not finishing college is one of the reasons I liked him, lol.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 25, 2015 08:33 AM (xetep)

60 In our daily meatworld interactions, have any of us encountered a single person who has said they support Jebby? I know in my case, nobody.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 08:33 AM (VPLuQ)

61 Phoenixgirl:

Jump on the trump/cruz train! It feels so good.

Fuck rick perry in his ass. Not. Only is he incredibly stupid, but he has a barbour on his staff. Their forte is attacking fellow gop'rs as racist. Fuck you perry.

As if that wasn't bad enough, the cocksucker is just dumb. He attacks mccarthy, a hero, and includes a quote from a. Commie lawyer to attack trump.

I repeat, fuck you rick perry. And fuck you michael gerson. And fuck anyone else who thinks this retard's speech was "impressive" or had any import.

Posted by: Prescient11 at July 25, 2015 08:33 AM (IXLyX)

62 It's a fantasy RK. If I had 2 minutes in front of the cameras two thirds of the country would be ready to hang me.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:35 AM (BO/km)

63 If co-sponsoring a bill with Chuck Schumer disqualifies Rubio, how does donating to Chuck Schumer (not to mention Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid) not disqualify Trump?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at July 25, 2015 08:36 AM (Na4RS)

64 48 How does anyone here think Walker, who didn't go to college, is anywhere near electable in this day and age?

***

Because most of the voters didn't either.

Because Obama, Clinton, Reid, McConnell, Jebby, etc, who all went to college a lot, are SCOAMFs.

Because he knows what's right and fights for it. College doesn't teach that.

How's that for starters?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 08:37 AM (uSM1W)

65 So prescient you don't like Perry. Are you saying you wouldn't vote for him if by some chance the only other option was the Hilderbeast?

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:39 AM (BO/km)

66 " It's a fantasy RK. "

Not so fast. I have full confidence that you're dog is smarter than Joe Biden.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 08:40 AM (/QgGG)

67 The candidate who has the guts to look that illegal alien criminal in the eye and say "yes, I will deport you" is the one who gets my vote.

Posted by: Blano at July 25, 2015 08:40 AM (uiVGU)

68 Iran hits out at Kerry's 'empty threats'

So within 2 weeks of the "historic" deal, Iran has had a Death to America rally and now is telling Lurch to go screw himself. Hell of a deal there Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2015 08:40 AM (DiZBp)

69 If co-sponsoring a bill with Chuck Schumer
disqualifies Rubio, how does donating to Chuck Schumer (not to mention
Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid) not disqualify Trump?
Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at July 25, 2015 08:36 AM

Rubio's position on illegals disqualifies him.

Trump did what every businessman does: he spread his support around to keep all the pols happy, just like ol' Howard Hughes shelling out big-time for both Humphrey and Nixon. I don't like it, but I'm not gonna diss anyone for paying protection money.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 08:41 AM (rCmeG)

70 I sure hope what ever fever Kasich has doesn't catch! That man is three boxes of stale Fruit Loops in a one box single serve.

My dark horse dream ticket now is Rick and Carly.

My dark horse wet dream ticket is Ted and Carly.

My third choice is SMOD 2016 and Carly.

My fourth choice is #Radagast2016 and Carly. (Full Disclosure: I'm Radagast's campaign manager)

I've not yet heard Ted or Carly say something poorly on a political issue I'm concerned with.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at July 25, 2015 08:41 AM (4e+dV)

71 63. "If co-sponsoring a bill with Chuck Schumer disqualifies Rubio, how does donating to Chuck Schumer (not to mention Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid) not disqualify Trump? "

***

It does. Or should. As does Trump donating a $100k to the Clinton Slush Fundation.

I'm increasingly coming to the view that there is real coordination going on between Trump and Hillary. That there is a plan for Trump to do for Hillary what Perot did for Bill.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 08:41 AM (uSM1W)

72 'Not so fast. I have full confidence that you're dog is smarter than Joe Biden.'

No doubt. He's better at licking his nuts too. His only fault is he sheds like crazy when he loses his winter coat.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:42 AM (BO/km)

73 Trump is a flim-flam artist. And you are the mark.

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 08:43 AM (2XMpf)

74 When all else fails, there's always Vermin Supreme.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 08:43 AM (rCmeG)

75 If co-sponsoring a bill with Chuck Schumer disqualifies Rubio, how does donating to Chuck Schumer (not to mention Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid) not disqualify Trump?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at July 25, 2015 08:36 AM (Na4RS)

Trump's a businessman with, I would guess, his HQ being in NYC. That's a major Democrat stronghold. If he wants to play, he has to pay. He has to cover his bases if he ever wants to get any permits/approvals/etc. Just look at how Mayor deBolshevik is now stating that because of Trump's statements, he's banning him from any further city contracts/business. Also, Trump has business in Las Vegas, which is Hairy Reid's state. A wealthy businessman trying to do business across the country has to grease the wheels with contributions. That is now 'the cost of doing business'. I have no problem with Trump's donations, I have a problem with the politicians who demand such bribes. Level playing field? Make me laugh.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 08:43 AM (HEtQ3)

76 Speaking of illegal immigration, it occurs to me that the push to pass legislation focusing on immigrant felons and sanctuary cities (i.e. Kate's Law in response to the Steinle killing) has great potential for unintended consequences. By singling out felonious deportees the bill would provide de facto legitimacy to the greater bulk of people who are in fact in the country illegally.

Posted by: Muldoon, an embarreled man at July 25, 2015 08:43 AM (NeFrd)

77 I actually heard someone on the news yesterday use the phrase "law-abiding illegal immigrants".

Posted by: Muldoon, an embarreled man at July 25, 2015 08:44 AM (NeFrd)

78 His only fault is he sheds like crazy when he loses his winter coat.
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:42 AM

Hell, Biden already did that....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 08:44 AM (rCmeG)

79 75. I call bull on that rationalization of Trump's support for NY Dems.

Even assuming it's true, it's still corrupt and disqualifying.

Trump is Hillary's Stalking Horse. His distracting, outrageous antics are providing her with cover.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 08:47 AM (uSM1W)

80 Trump did what every businessman does: he spread his support around to keep all the pols happy, just like ol' Howard Hughes shelling out big-time for both Humphrey and Nixon. I don't like it, but I'm not gonna diss anyone for paying protection money.

What would've happened if he didn't pay the money? His net worth would be $9 billion instead of $10 billion? I'm sure all the unemployed people in this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable economy understand completely.

And wouldn't the principled conservative thing to do be holding a press conference and call out Schumer and the Democrats for blocking him over a political donation? I guess poor old Donald Trump can't get the press to pay attention to him.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at July 25, 2015 08:49 AM (Na4RS)

81 In our daily meatworld interactions, have any of us encountered a single person who has said they support Jebby? I know in my case, nobody.

****

Ahhh! The "No True Acquaintance" fallacy.

Posted by: Muldoon, an embarreled man at July 25, 2015 08:50 AM (NeFrd)

82 His distracting, outrageous antics are providing her with cover.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 08:47 AM (uSM1W)

Trump's "distracting, outrageous antics are" exposing the asshole RINO eGOPS for who they are.

But your concern is duly noted.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 08:50 AM (HEtQ3)

83 How many times does it need to be pointed out that Trump is no Conservative? Trump never said he was. Yet he is leading the pack.

Go figure.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 08:52 AM (pir3m)

84 I'm not only the owner of Hair Plugs for Dogs, I'm a member!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2015 08:53 AM (NeFrd)

85 "In our daily meatworld interactions, have any of us encountered a single person who has said they support Jebby? I know in my case, nobody."

No. I don't understand why he shows up in so many polls. Nobody mentions him. Likes him. Can cite anything he's said. Friends, cow-orkers, family.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 08:53 AM (/QgGG)

86 I don't know anyone who likes Jeb but do know people who will not vote for him even if the alternative is HRC. Those people include me.

Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2015 08:54 AM (BO/km)

87 Paul talks about creating a one-page tax form with a 14.5% flat tax and destroying 'all 70,000 pages' of the U.S. tax code. -- Time Article

I am not much of a fan of Paul's, and it pains me because things like reducing regulatory load, solid currencies and personal liberty are dear to my heart.

But that tax proposal gives me something of a crush on him.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2015 08:54 AM (3pRHP)

88 What would've happened if he didn't pay the money? His net worth would be $9 billion instead of $10 billion?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at July 25, 2015 08:49 AM (Na4RS)

Assumption much? Get back to me when you have made $9B and are shaken down by corrupt pols.

'That's a nice business you got there. Shame if anything were to happen to it.'

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 08:54 AM (HEtQ3)

89 I just read a Dana Millbank column on why Scott Walker is so dangerous. Oh my stars I haven't read such hysterics in a while. Walker makes Millbank wet his panties.

He recognizes the danger to Dims of someone who beats Dims. But he even tries to tie Walker to Joe McCarthy. Which means he's got nothing.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 08:55 AM (2Ocf1)

90 Pop Quiz: Who said this in 2012, when Obama was running for re-election?

"Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman," he told Greta Van
Susteren. "I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New
York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a
lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she's given an
agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I
think she does a good job. I like her."

Three guesses, and the first two don't count

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 08:58 AM (2XMpf)

91 Oh just looked at FoxNews front page. CA AG Harris is going to look into the group that made the PP videos. So there's that.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 08:58 AM (2Ocf1)

92 So within 2 weeks of the "historic" deal, Iran has had a Death to America rally and now is telling Lurch to go screw himself.

Iran was telling them to screw themselves through the whole process, and they still coughed up the gold. What little bitches.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2015 08:59 AM (oVJmc)

93 Three guesses, and the first two don't count

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 08:58 AM (2XMpf)

The cost of doing business is not just monetary.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 08:59 AM (HEtQ3)

94 For month upon endless month people asked for someone who would just say,
FYNQ. They got that person.

Just too bad its Trump.

Where are the collective balls of the gopE and yes I am including both Cruz and Walker in this question. Why they are busy giving hillary phoney awards to make themselves happy!

See we are above it all!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:00 AM (pir3m)

95 Someone above mentioned consultants and such. Thus the magic (so far) of The Donald.

He don't got no consultants. Nor focus groups, nor pollsters. He just shoots from the mouth and plays his gut. It's not always "conservative" but just refreshing.

He is the ultimate anti-D.C. option at this point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:00 AM (/QgGG)

96 Oh just looked at FoxNews front page. CA AG Harris is going to look into the group that made the PP videos. So there's that.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 08:58 AM (2Ocf1)

Anyone who dares question and expose what the left is really about must go to the gulags

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2015 09:01 AM (DiZBp)

97 With voice actor Harry Shearer leaving the show,
we got Sen. Cruz to audition for popular characters like Ned Flanders
and Mr. Burns.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 08:07 AM (qCMvj)

Ahem: Nixon on Laugh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qRZvlZZ0DY

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2015 09:01 AM (3pRHP)

98 @93 not buying it.

If we are going to criticize Jeb for giving a medal to Hillary then that BS is certainly deserving.

Trump is a clown. And while he's kicking the media in the teeth, an attractive clown.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 09:03 AM (2Ocf1)

99 "He is the ultimate anti-D.C. option at this point."

Thats why he is ahead in the polls and will probably keep going up. Every new nontroversay will bring him a point or two until he has the chance to win it all.

grandma shills stalking horse? Very doubtful. Trump has never played second banana to my knowledge. Its all about the Trump.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:03 AM (pir3m)

100 "Ahem: Nixon on Laugh-in"

Sock it to him?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:04 AM (/QgGG)

101 grandma shills stalking horse? Very doubtful. Trump has never played second banana to my knowledge. Its all about the Trump.

If she put him up to it, it could blow up in her face if he sees himself within reach of the gold ring.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2015 09:07 AM (oVJmc)

102 "Sock it to me?"

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 25, 2015 09:08 AM (1ijHg)

103 Obama in Kenya: 'Africa is on the move'

Please move there

Seven hundred Christian pastors in Kenya have written an open letter to
Obama asking him not to push the homosexual agenda during his visit to
Kenya because it is against their faith and their culture.

Hey Barry, why not light up Air Force One in rainbow colors? Just to show you're down for the cause

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2015 09:08 AM (DiZBp)

104 I ran across this blog that has detailed information about state-by-state presidential primary dates with what looks like good links to state sites with more specifics of each state's primary process.

http://tinyurl.com/prezprimary

I don't know if there is a slant or bias to the site, but it seemed like good info.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2015 09:08 AM (NeFrd)

105 83 How many times does it need to be pointed out that Trump is no Conservative? Trump never said he was. Yet he is leading the pack.
------------------------------
Hate to point it out, but I've heard The Donald claim to be a conservative many times in interviews. Most recently this morning on Fox (probably a clip from a recent interview).

Posted by: Chi at July 25, 2015 09:10 AM (EfRAJ)

106 26 Perry seems well-positioned. I was surprised by Fiorina's placement.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2015 08:09 AM (RWGcK)
=========================

Perry continually gets side-tracked by things that ought to be easy. Easy questions, easy lawsuits, easy politics (the Trump idiocy in which he's engaged).

Perry has convinced me he just cannot handle politics except when its easy and, since he's not a Democrat, national politics is a rough go.

He is already seeming to have become a non-factor, like Christie.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:11 AM (TxJGV)

107 I'm increasingly coming to the view that there is real coordination going on between Trump and Hillary. That there is a plan for Trump to do for Hillary what Perot did for Bill.

======

Doesn't matter to me, already out of the GOP and voting 3rd party regardless of who's the nominee.

FWIW, I don't think any of them have a chance anyway, with the possible exception of Trump. Though of course he's a stretch.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 09:11 AM (Cq0oW)

108 "Voces de la Frontera"? When did Wisconsin become the Mexican frontier?

Posted by: Moron Labe at July 25, 2015 09:11 AM (P6LxG)

109 "grandma shills stalking horse? "

I don't think so either. We could be made schmucks of yet however.

He's a clown. But one who says some shit that nobody dares and yet a lot think. Still sussing his seriousness but he's moving the "shitstorm" needle like nobody else, so. What the fcuk at this point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:12 AM (/QgGG)

110 Chi.

News to me. I'll drop that part and just say that Trump has no history of being a Conservative and you should proceed accordingly.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:13 AM (pir3m)

111 not buying it.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 09:03 AM (2Ocf1)

Then don't.

Trump may be 'a clown', but he's my clown. And my clown fights against the very people/orgs I want my clown, whoever it may be, to fight against.

Oh, and for a clown, he's somehow managed, singlehandedly, to get a national conversation going on our criminal illegal alien invasion crisis as well as Democrat sanctuary cities. I'll take my clown doing more of that 'sideshow' any day of the week.

Trump keeps pissing off the people I'm pissed off at. What's not to like?

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:13 AM (HEtQ3)

112 My own opinion is the race eventually comes down to Walker, Cruz, Rubio and Fiorina. Walker and Rubio lead in the Gallup numbers, but Cruz is surprisingly well-regarded and has plenty of upside as people get to know him (assuming he can break through the MSM blackout). Carly is the x-factor, inexperienced in politics but getting some traction and has a little money.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:13 AM (TxJGV)

113 The plan has to be for Trump to be Hillary's Perot.

Here's something to boggle you over your corn flakes. Look at the Wiki page for the vote results for the 1992 presidential election.

Without Perot, Bush 41 would have probably creamed Clinton in the Electoral College.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:15 AM (uSM1W)

114 Walker - President
Fiorina- VP
Cruz - Chief Justice.

A guy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:16 AM (uSM1W)

115 Trump is a Clown?

The anti-clowns had better get their act together or that Clown will mow them over on his Unicycle.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:16 AM (pir3m)

116 111. Your "clown", Trump, is working to make Hillary the next President. Lot's of chuckles in that.

Posted by: Haydare at July 25, 2015 09:18 AM (uSM1W)

117 114 Walker - President
Fiorina- VP
Cruz - Chief Justice.

A guy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:16 AM (uSM1W)
=======================

Wow- what a line-up! I especially like that third entry there. Can you imagine the consternation in McVain's head over that idea? Might be enough to blow a gasket and put him in the old age home he deserves.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:18 AM (TxJGV)

118 A guy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:16 AM

If that's your "dream," go right ahead.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:19 AM (rCmeG)

119 You do know that you can change your nick all you want but that wont change who you are Rapsail/Haydare?

Trolling trolling trolling!! Keep thos trolls a trolling!!

trollhide!!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:20 AM (pir3m)

120 The plan has to be for Trump to be Hillary's Perot.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:15 AM (uSM1W)

And I say, so what? Would Deb! be any different than Hillarity!? Not really. And Deb! with a Republican House and Senate would be doing things different than Obama and the Dem House and Senate back in 2009-10 how? More to the point, how is the Republican House and Senate in 2015 under Orange Weepy and The Turtle doing anything different than when Reid and Pelosi ruled Congress? No one in DC represents US!

Trump's a political outsider, never having been elected to office before, and that's why I'll support Trump, even if he pulls a third party run and causes a split in Republican votes, throwing the election to the Dems. Because, at this point, what difference does it make? I'd rather place my vote on a Trump green zero/double zero, with the risk/reward that entails, than throw my vote away on red or blue, as those political colors are now interchangeable and completely indistinguishable from each other.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:20 AM (HEtQ3)

121

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:20 AM (HEtQ3)

122 >>>so I thought today I'd do a news roundup, focusing on positive stories from each* of the campaigns.<<<

Wait, do you know where you are at?

Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2015 09:21 AM (UzPAd)

123 Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:20 AM

Good save there, Buckaroo.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:21 AM (rCmeG)

124 Good save there, Buckaroo.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:21 AM (rCmeG)

A kick save, and a beauty!

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:22 AM (HEtQ3)

125 108 "Voces de la Frontera"? When did Wisconsin become the Mexican frontier?
Posted by: Moron Labe at July 25, 2015 09:11 AM (P6LxG)

I thought I heard La Raza's new slogan was, "54^o 40' or fight."

Posted by: Agent J at July 25, 2015 09:23 AM (ueOgE)

126 117 114 Walker - President
Fiorina- VP
Cruz - Chief Justice.

A guy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:16 AM (uSM1W)
=======================

Since you're dreaming...

John Bolton - Secretary of State
Trey Gowdy - Attorney General

Posted by: Doug at July 25, 2015 09:23 AM (uSM1W)

127
Trump keeps pissing off the people I'm pissed off at. What's not to like?

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:13 AM (HEtQ3)

"Mr. Vice President, Mr. Secretary. The missiles are flying. Hallelujah. Hallelujah."

Posted by: Donald "Greg Stillson" Trump at July 25, 2015 09:24 AM (yxw0r)

128 I don't understand why Ex-I'm bank is a bad thing. It helps America export and the government actually makes money on the program. There are a lot of truly wasteful programs that cost a lot of money, why not focus on those?

Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2015 09:24 AM (YHuRk)

129 Pundit's claim Trump can't win because he has no ground game or infrastructure. When his name has been uttered more than any other in the last two months, I'd call that a ground game. As far as infrastructure, If he continues to stay fairly high in the polls, that problem takes care of itself. Right now I'm just enjoying the show.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2015 09:25 AM (owX4B)

130 "Trump keeps pissing off the people I'm pissed off at. What's not to like?
"

The anti-clowns don't seem to understand this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:26 AM (pir3m)

131 Whatever happened to the talk of President Mark Cuban & VP Ann Coulter?
Or aas that just a dream?

Posted by: Chi at July 25, 2015 09:26 AM (EfRAJ)

132 No one thinks Trump is ideal, but if faced with a candidate who has a10% chance of following through with his promises and one with a 0% chance, I'll go with the former. All the others have sold us out to the donor class, and any positive noises they make on immigration will be in reaction to Trump, a deceptive lie like Obama saying he was against redefining marriage. Trump isn't hurting them. They brought Trump on themselves.

Posted by: Supertrump at July 25, 2015 09:26 AM (WhB4J)

133 @120
There's your bumper sticker: "TRUMP: Because what difference, at this point, does it make?"

It'll be YOUUUGE!!!

I'd put one on my car, except I'd get fired. (My Cthulu 2016 sticker is as far as I dare go.)

Posted by: Agent J at July 25, 2015 09:27 AM (ueOgE)

134 The plan has to be for Trump to be Hillary's Perot.

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Why? because you say so?

Trump does have a history of getting fed up with government BS and boasting he can do it all better faster cheaper and at profit, then delivering. Sometimes he starts that and gets surprised that he's taken seriously, convince s himself, and then follows through.

He's a serious businessman. All that clown shit is only about his political acumen.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 09:28 AM (Cq0oW)

135 "The anti-clowns don't seem to understand this. "

At this point, why not?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:29 AM (/QgGG)

136 Trump/ Fiorina 2016

Posted by: That guy who said "Trump/Fiorina" way before Trump announced at July 25, 2015 09:29 AM (6E2VN)

137 Cruz sits back and bides his time on the trade bill making sure the gopE has their 60 votes. Walker punts on immigration.

And they wonder why they are having trouble with the base.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:29 AM (pir3m)

138 Conservatives might be surprised how much people in Louisiana have soured on Jindal - and I am talking about people who voted for him and supported him during his first term. He looks and sounds great outside this state to people who are not having to live with the consequences of his policies and leadership style.

Posted by: Rick67 at July 25, 2015 09:30 AM (/gbBy)

139 Trey Gowdy gives good hearings, other than that he hasn't done shit.

Posted by: Blano at July 25, 2015 09:31 AM (sdPF/)

140 89
But he even tries to tie Walker to Joe McCarthy.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2015 08:55 AM (2Ocf1)

I'd like to see Walker and McCarthy in a three-legged race, but that's just me.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2015 09:31 AM (sdi6R)

141 119. Trolling = connecting the dots between Trump's previous support of Hillary, his various hyper-liberal positions (universal health care for all! partial birth abortion!!) and his threat to run a third party candidacy.

Quite a definition of trolling, that.

Posted by: Haydare Troller of Tim in Illinois' last brain cell at July 25, 2015 09:31 AM (uSM1W)

142 Haven't read all the posts, and it may have been mentioned, but there's yet another throwing their hat into the GOP ring in the next week or two. Former VA governor Jim Gilmore is said to be announcing soon. I know nothing about the guy, but what's this make him...#17? Anyone know anything about him?

http://tinyurl.com/olbufcg

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at July 25, 2015 09:32 AM (/TU91)

143 "Trump keeps pissing off the people I'm pissed off at. What's not to like?"

The anti-clowns don't seem to understand this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:26 AM (pir3m)

Yep. If it comes down to an inevitable Deb!-Hillarity! matchup, or a Deb!-replacement Dem like Lieawatha tilt, just what is the fucking difference? Going to hell in a hand basket slowly, or going to hell in a hand basket at plaid speed? We're still going to hell in a hand basket either way.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:32 AM (HEtQ3)

144 Why are the other democratz refusing to commit to running?

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 25, 2015 09:33 AM (hCdMd)

145 From WaPo, Via Maggie's Farm:

Walker is not anti-union. He is anti-government employee unions. So was FDR. The real reason he is dangerous is because he rides a Harley, while Hillary! can't drive a car.

https://tinyurl.com/swdangerous

Posted by: KT at July 25, 2015 09:34 AM (qahv/)

146 Jim Gilmore?

The price is wrong, bitch.

Posted by: Blano at July 25, 2015 09:34 AM (NHQQx)

147 Those dots have been connected several times already in the past week. Quit acting like you are the only one smart enough to figure it out.

At this point in time the only question I have have about Trump's past is, do you see it coming mr.mensa?..........

What difference does it make?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 09:35 AM (pir3m)

148 As of comment #134 the number of occurrences by name in this thread (both for and against)

Trump- 78
Walker- 37
Cruz- 35
Perry- 27
Fiorina- 15
Paul- 12
JEB- 8
Jindal- 8
Graham- 5
Christie- 1
Carson- 1
Huckabee- 1
Santorum- 0
Graham- 0

Posted by: Muldoon at July 25, 2015 09:36 AM (NeFrd)

149 Conservatives might be surprised how much people in
Louisiana have soured on Jindal - and I am talking about people who
voted for him and supported him during his first term. He looks and
sounds great outside this state to people who are not having to live
with the consequences of his policies and leadership style.
Posted by: Rick67 at July 25, 2015 09:30 AM (/gbBy)

You gonna give examples or are you just flopping out your political big-member by saying, "he's as bad a manager as 'xxxx'"?
Or is this one of those backhanded attacks like, "he has been surprisingly effective Governor for a state known for its corruption and backwardness" comments?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2015 09:36 AM (3pRHP)

150 Trey Gowdy gives good hearings, other than that he hasn't done shit.

======

he is rapidly becoming Lindsey Graham in that respect

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 09:37 AM (Cq0oW)

151 "Quite a definition of trolling, that."

Trump has his BS quotient but at this point it may seem less than the average GOP candidate. Most, including me, would have thought the likes of Cruz and Walker would have firebranded themselves out in front, but, no. Meely-mouth around, mewl, milquetoast.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:37 AM (/QgGG)

152 Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 09:28 AM (Cq0oW)
=========================

I understand its great having a guy able to handle the press. That's a great talent and Trump outclasses the group by a mile in that regard, so I love watching him hand them their asses.

But that's all there is: he really hasn't thought anything else through. Heck- he's basically only got one guy in his political "organization" and that guy is an employee of his business and not a campaign.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:38 AM (TxJGV)

153 Why are the other democratz refusing to commit to running?

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 25, 2015 09:33 AM (hCdMd)

Never run against the heir apparent Queen until one is sure said Queen is dead and buried. They are playing it safe for their political lives. Besides, who wants to be in fear of becoming another Fort Marcy Park Democrat statistic?

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:39 AM (HEtQ3)

154 138 Conservatives might be surprised how much people in Louisiana have soured on Jindal - and I am talking about people who voted for him and supported him during his first term. He looks and sounds great outside this state to people who are not having to live with the consequences of his policies and leadership style.
Posted by: Rick67 at July 25, 2015 09:30 AM (/gbBy)

Yes, I've heard that, and it's disappointing because I'm a Jindal fan. Here in Texas I always think of him a a good buddy to have as a neighbor. I think he'd be good in the VP slot at least.

As a Texan, i don't get a vote in the primary, so it's all academic to me, but still ask, what exactly is the beef with him in Louisiana?

Posted by: stace: SMOD/Cascadia Subduction Zone 2016 at July 25, 2015 09:39 AM (CoX6k)

155 Gilmore. A non-starter, nationally.
Just another GOPe spoiler. Ex Gov & AG of Virginia. Big proponent of public schools and teachers unions. Increasedspending on two of our HBCUs

He did work to have vehicle personal property taxes phased out and eliminated, though.
And he's on the right side of abortion.

Posted by: Chi at July 25, 2015 09:39 AM (EfRAJ)

156 Newt's handling of the press when he ran (in what was it, 2012?) was a blueprint.

All the people that stayed away from voting because of McCain in 08 hoped Obamanatio would bring Reagan II in 2012 got Mitt in 2012 Trump in 2016.

I say go for it.

Who says fiscal conservative/social "liberalism" is impossible?

Ya gotta have a bit of populism, like it or not. Give up the fight re: marriage already. While you're at it, give up pot and abortion. Unless you are willing to fund orphanages or do a lot of adopting.

Live and let live while encouraging very strongly that people pay for their causes and lifestyles with their own damned money.

Come to think of it, I am wasting my brainstorm. Stealth Democrats will nominate the GOP candidate. Every Democrat friend I have is a registered Republican. WHy? TO vote in "our" primaries.

We'll probably get jeb! Then a lot of us will pine for Trump/Fiorina.

Posted by: i like anchors at July 25, 2015 09:40 AM (6E2VN)

157 "Jim Gilmore? "

Yes, he answers so many questions such as........

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:40 AM (/QgGG)

158 139
Trey Gowdy gives good hearings, other than that he hasn't done shit.

Posted by: Blano at July 25, 2015 09:31 AM (sdPF/)

Well, he did vote for Boehner for speaker. So he's got that going for him.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 25, 2015 09:42 AM (yxw0r)

159 134. Why? because you say so?"

***

Because critical thinking.

Do you seriously think Trump has any chance of winning the 2016 Republican nomination? Of course you don't.

So, given that fact, then the next question you have to ask (doing that critical thinking thing) is, why is Trump doing what he's doing, since he can't win?

He sure isn't doing it to improve the chances of any Republican next year. (The media spin is, Trump's surge in the polls proves how crazy the entire GOP is. That'll sure attract independents and Democrats to the cause.)

So, who gains from Trump's campaign if not the GOP? Trump certainly. But anybody else? Anybody whose multiplying campaign difficulties Trump has conveniently knocked off the front pages?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:42 AM (uSM1W)

160 "As of comment #134 the number of occurrences by name in this thread (both for and against)

Trump- 78
Walker- 37 "

Heh.

Sorta speaks for itself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:42 AM (/QgGG)

161 Damn, that's a scatter plot. The GOP field is as crazy as the Dem field was in '88.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 09:43 AM (UJvRO)

162 Damn, this Robocroc is Grade A cheese.

Oh, and I missed Sharknado 3 Wednesday, so no spoilers.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 09:44 AM (UJvRO)

163
Well, he did vote for Boehner for speaker. So he's got that going for him.

--

And he was very supportive of the Obamatrade crap. He's my rep and he was on local talk radio several times trying to alleviate all the concerns everyone has. He really disappointed me on that one.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at July 25, 2015 09:45 AM (/TU91)

164 Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:42 AM (uSM1W)

See my post at 120, where I explained that to you. Are you dense, stubborn, or just illiterate? Maybe you just like asking the same question over and over, hoping somebody will take you seriously?

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:46 AM (HEtQ3)

165 "Do you seriously think Trump has any chance of winning the 2016 Republican nomination? Of course you don't. "

At this guy's rate, I don't know so much.

But, he isn't rampaging my phone and inbox for money and he's leading in the polls so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:46 AM (/QgGG)

166 Trump is not going to flame out.

Jeb! is in trouble with Trump in the race, and they both know it - a lot more LIVs will vote for Trump than another Bush.

So, when do you think the death threats will be delivered from the GOPe to Trump, the way they were sent to Perot?

Posted by: An Observation at July 25, 2015 09:47 AM (/ahzr)

167 Will we ever have a candidate that is voted FOR versus voted ON as a vote AGAINST the gd Democrat?

Not many people have ever voted FOR a presidential candidate. Most of us have always voted AGAINST the other one.

W is a prime example. Hell, Bush I is a prime example. People thought Reagan was too liberal ffs. But he was a serious fiscal conservative.

Posted by: i like anchors at July 25, 2015 09:47 AM (6E2VN)

168 ...he's basically only got one guy in his political
"organization" and that guy is an employee of his business and not a
campaign.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:38 AM

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Don't know how many Political Organizers Cruz and Perry have, but their efforts have made the candidates come off like J. Fred Doofus. Or maybe they just brought out what those guys really are, I dunno.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:48 AM (rCmeG)

169 Oh, and I missed Sharknado 3 Wednesday, so no spoilers.

Posted by: logprof
------------------------------
I think it's coming on again soon - maybe tonight?
Do your self a favor and watch. It was awesome! So much better than the first.
And if you want one really simple spoiler, see my #131.

Posted by: Chi at July 25, 2015 09:49 AM (EfRAJ)

170 "So, when do you think the death threats will be delivered from the GOPe to Trump, the way they were sent to Perot?"

I'd have to say that The Donald knows how to deal with that. He's probably got some pipe-hitters that can handle trouble.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:50 AM (/QgGG)

171 159. Do you seriously think Trump has any chance of winning the 2016 Republican nomination? Of course you don't.
================

Why not? You can't dismiss that out of hand without providing any explanation and call yourself a "critical thinker". Particularly when Trump is leading in the polls as much as he is.

Posted by: Stingyhat at July 25, 2015 09:51 AM (fsTl5)

172 not much of a chance to win the nom, no.

but I think you're dead wrong about not being able to attract dems and independents.

the GOP brand is dogshit. there are millions out there who might agree with parts of our plank or who positively hate the progressives yet will never vote GOP.

Trump is akin to an old school conservative dem. that gives them an acceptable out.

but... again, the demographics argue against any republican winning in the election itself, so why argue about it? back whoever you want.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 25, 2015 09:51 AM (Cq0oW)

173 151. "Most, including me, would have thought the likes of Cruz and Walker would have firebranded themselves out in front, but, no. Meely-mouth around, mewl, milquetoast..."

***

Yesterday, on the floor of the United State Senate, Ted Cruz called the Majority Leader of his own party a liar and accused him being in the pocket of corrupt lobbyists. By your apparent definition, the only way Cruz could avoid the charge of being a "milquetoast" would be for him to beat McConnell over the head with a cane.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:52 AM (uSM1W)

174 Anyone know what a 2011 Rav4 LE that's loaded with 97,000 miles is worth?

It still looks brand new, inside and out.

The miles worry me, so I think I'll trade it in on a new one today.

Posted by: jwest at July 25, 2015 09:53 AM (P/xrJ)

175 There are so many people in the GOP field that what we need is a weekend of Battle Royale on an island to winnow them down to, say, 4 candidates. If they can't pick off a few of their own, they've no chance against Sanders/Hillary!/Warren.

Okay, I've got some work to do, and in my business, that means pants. Later, folks.

Posted by: Agent J at July 25, 2015 09:54 AM (ueOgE)

176 Oh, and for all you Trump luddites who hate the 'clown show', just imagine what President Trump's pressers would be like! EPIC just doesn't cover it. President Hissy Fit won't do pressers because he might get asked a tough question. Trump, like Reagan before him, would relish pressers where he could put reporters in their place. That's worth the price of admission (my vote).

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 09:54 AM (HEtQ3)

177 "By your apparent definition, the only way Cruz could avoid the charge of being a "milquetoast" would be for him to beat McConnell over the head with a cane."

God but were that to happen.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 25, 2015 09:54 AM (/QgGG)

178 I think it's coming on again soon - maybe tonight?
Do your self a favor and watch. It was awesome! So much better than the first.
And if you want one really simple spoiler, see my #131.
Posted by: Chi at July 25, 2015 09:49 AM (EfRAJ)

--Yes, it's encoring tonight at 5 MT. I've read Ann Coulter is VP, that's enough spoiler for me.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 09:54 AM (UJvRO)

179 By your apparent definition, the only way Cruz could
avoid the charge of being a "milquetoast" would be for him to beat
McConnell over the head with a cane.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:52 AM

So buying the Bitch's rap and then whimpering about it afterwards is your idea of a Great Statesman?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:55 AM (rCmeG)

180 Be a believer!!11!!

Posted by: Kasich Fever!!11!! at July 25, 2015 09:56 AM (Dwehj)

181 '['i]"166 Trump is not going to flame out."

***

Of course he won't. The media won't let that happen.

And who does the media really want to be the next President? (Hint. It's not Jeb.)

Dots. Connect.

Trump is as essential to the Hillary campaign as Huma, vodka and pant suits.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:56 AM (uSM1W)

182 #winning

Posted by: Tawana Brawley at July 25, 2015 09:56 AM (cNtqS)

183 From Instapundit:

Trump Steaks!

They're yuuuuuge!

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/211275/

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 09:57 AM (2XMpf)

184 I like that Trump feller.

Posted by: H. Ross Parrot at July 25, 2015 09:58 AM (Dwehj)

185 168 You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 09:48 AM (rCmeG)
===========================

It tells you he takes his candidacy a helluva lot less seriously than his supporters want him to.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:58 AM (TxJGV)

186 I would never vote for perry. Same for jeb. Fuck. It, let hrc take it.

RickZ:

Apparently many children are in the comments section, who don't understand that yes, when you fucking do business in a dem captured city yo grease the wheels with them.

How fucking stupid/naive are you people? Mark levin also was criticizing this and i was in disbelief. How in the fuck do you people think you do biz in a dem city? Ffs.

Posted by: Prescient11 at July 25, 2015 09:58 AM (IXLyX)

187 176. Re: comparisons of President Trump and President Reagan press conferences.

***
We're more likely to see President Reagan give a press conference in 2017 than we are to see President Trump give one.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:59 AM (uSM1W)

188 Trump is as essential to the Hillary campaign as Huma, vodka and pant suits.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 09:56 AM (uSM1W)

You keep repeating that same bullshit over and over. Just what is the actual difference between how the Dems rule versus how the eGOPs rule? In bloody fucking detail, please, with footnotes.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 10:00 AM (HEtQ3)

189 Do a web search using word combinations which include Rick Perry, Karim Aga
Khan, Grover Norquist, Samah Alrayyes, Muslim Histories and Cultures
Program, and Ismaili Jamathkana Center.

America does not need another Barack Hussein Obama - Lite in the Oval Office, regardless of his nominal party affiliation.

Posted by: PPs43 at July 25, 2015 10:00 AM (gs8t9)

190 "Voces de la Frontera"? When did Wisconsin become the Mexican frontier?
Posted by: Moron Labe at July 25, 2015 09:11 AM (P6LxG)
_______________________

Imagine if a band of Mexican patriots got together and decided to do whatever was necessary to rid Mexico of the corruption and cartels, etc. They organized a movement, and for decades they risked their lives and their liberty and everything else they had to make Mexico a better place for its people. Eventually, there is a vicious, bloody war with the cartels (aided and abetted by the corrupt Mexican government), and after several grueling years and many rebel deaths, the patriots win. They establish a new, better government, and Mexico prospers.

Mexicans are now free to innovate, and many do. There are several new inventions that bring even more wealth to Mexico. Things are going very well there, especially compared to the U.S., where government corruption is entrenched and people are feeling hopeless.

Many notice the better situation in Mexico, and millions of poor Americans begin flooding across the Mexican border in violation of Mexico's immigration laws, demanding that Mexicans "share" their wealth and provide them and their kids with "free" education and "free" medical care and "free" food, and overwhelming Mexican social services, schools, hospitals, police, etc. Also, many criminals from America see the opportunity in Mexico, and they too swarm illegally across the border, committing many rapes and burglaries and murders and other crimes against Mexican citizens.

The people of Mexico are outraged, and demand that the Americans respect their nation's sovereignty and return to their own country. The immigrating Americans respond that they just want "their" piece of the Mexican Dream, and insist that the Mexicans are just being nativist and raaaaacist in wanting to keep them out. The Mexicans point out that the Americans didn't risk their lives and fight and sacrifice for years to make Mexico a better place to live. The Americans say: "So what? Who cares what happened in the past? You have a better country now, and we want to live in it and take advantage of what you built. You don't have the right to keep it for yourselves. National borders are just artificial political lines. Mexico now belongs to us!"

I wonder what would happen next . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 25, 2015 10:01 AM (kGrdk)

191 Have we come to any consensus on which Candidates will or will not destroy "your" Country if I vote for them yet?

I'm getting impatient on this. By this time last go around around it was Mitt or "it"

What ever "it" was.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 10:01 AM (pir3m)

192 Sorry and disappointed to say that Rick Perry is as dead to me as Jeb.

I saw and heard all that I needed to last week.

Posted by: Tawana Brawley at July 25, 2015 10:02 AM (cNtqS)

193 It tells you he takes his candidacy a helluva lot less seriously than his supporters want him to.
Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 09:58 AM

Or it tells you he has more faith in himself and his message than the other candidates....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 10:03 AM (rCmeG)

194 /lying racist sock off

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:03 AM (cNtqS)

195 "with footnotes."

Now that is going to far.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 10:04 AM (pir3m)

196 191
Have we come to any consensus on which Candidates will or will not destroy "your" Country if I vote for them yet?

I voted for Mitt and my country got destroyed.

What's your point?

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:05 AM (cNtqS)

197 with footnotes

Check your podiatric privilege!

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 10:05 AM (2XMpf)

198 "with footnotes."

Now that is going to far.

maybe just some glossing in the margin...

& a shrubbery

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 25, 2015 10:06 AM (0eUIs)

199 188. Just what is the actual difference between how the Dems rule versus how the eGOPs rule? In bloody fucking detail, please, with footnotes.

***
"Wad 'av the bloody Romans ever done for us?"

http://tinyurl.com/cwo8uwj

Beat back gun control.

While Reagan gave us Kennedy, he also gave us Scalia.

While Bush 41 gave us Souter, he also gave us Thomas.

While Bush 43, gave us Roberts, he also gave us Alito.

Now, tell, which Clinton and Obama Supreme Court justice is your favorite?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:06 AM (uSM1W)

200 This whole thing with Trump sounds eerily familiar, like we've done this sort of thing before...

Read up on the election of 1940, where the Republicans, frustrated at always losing to FDR, decided "screw the politicians" and went with a business magnate.

Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2015 10:07 AM (2XMpf)

201 "What's your point?

The question is the point.

For example.

If I decide to vote for Trump in the Primary, will I be destroying "your" Country.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 10:08 AM (pir3m)

202 Oh, and. Levin's critique was from 2011.

Posted by: Prescient11 at July 25, 2015 10:08 AM (IXLyX)

203 I feel about Perry like I do about Cruz.

Some of these guys need to stay where they are as they are far more useful there. The D.C. Beltway conversion machine would eat both of them.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:08 AM (cNtqS)

204 The illegal immigrant parent also asked about whether Walker would deport him and separate him from his family.

I guess that no mother should ever go to prison.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2015 10:09 AM (rwI+c)

205 "with footnotes."

Now that is going to far.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 10:04 AM (pir3m)

True story. I was taking a post WWI through the end of WWII senior level history class. My prof was from Switzerland. There was a German lt. in the class who was serving at NATO HQ (Norfolk) nearby. The prof had explained how he wanted the footnotes on the major paper (at least 25 pages) required for the class. When the day came to hand in those papers, we talked about it before class. I looked at the German's paper and I told him he didn't do the proper formatting for the footnotes. He asked if it will really matter. I said yes, but he wasn't so sure. He got an 'F' on that paper.

I'm a goddamn stickler for proper footnotes.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 10:10 AM (HEtQ3)

206 In fairness, kennedy was reagan's third choice. Bork was his first. And back then there wasn't a very good system of vetting judges.

Posted by: Prescient11 at July 25, 2015 10:10 AM (IXLyX)

207 I voted for Mitt and my country got destroyed. ...

That's because he quit the aggressive rhetoric and people didn't think they could trust him not to be a squish.......

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 25, 2015 10:10 AM (hCdMd)

208 test

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:12 AM (0FSuD)

209 2nd test

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:13 AM (0FSuD)

210 3rd?

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:13 AM (0FSuD)

211 4th

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:14 AM (0FSuD)

212 Now, tell, which Clinton and Obama Supreme Court justice is your favorite?

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:06 AM (uSM1W)

And Obama gave us 404Care while the eGOPs posture over its repeal. And let's not forget the eGOPs aiding and abetting Obama in giving Iran the green light to launch nuclear Armageddon.

As for SCOTUS, we still have 404Care after two court cases clearly showing its illegality, and now with the added bonus of giving power to the Gaystapo.

Yep, those SCOTUS appointments really helped out a whole lot.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 10:14 AM (HEtQ3)

213

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:14 AM (0FSuD)

214 156
Stealth Democrats will nominate the GOP candidate. Every Democrat friend I have is a registered Republican. WHy? TO vote in "our" primaries.

Posted by: i like anchors at July 25, 2015 09:40 AM (6E2VN)

The primary schedule is heavily "front-loaded" with open primary states. Therefore Democrat voters have a disproportionate say in who the front-runner will be in the first few weeks. Given the herd mentality of voters who want to be seen as siding with the winner, the front-runner has an overwhelming advantage.

This state of affairs was identified at least as far back as 2008. What has the GOPe done about it? Not a damned thing.

I can only conclude that they don't see it as a problem.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2015 10:14 AM (sdi6R)

215 206. Fair point. I have read that John Sununu duped Bush 41 into Souter. Souter's vetting apparently went no further than Sununu vouching for him as a New Hampshire favorite son.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:15 AM (uSM1W)

216 5th

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:15 AM (0FSuD)

217
If I decide to vote for Trump in the Primary, will I be destroying "your" Country.

Nope.

The country is a shell of it's former self thanks to white-guilt , self-loathing and kow-towing conservatives who take the race card and the rape card seriously and personally- every. single. time. the SJWs play it.

America is likely unsalvageable. Euro-socialism is almost impossible to reverse at this point without causing the FSA to riot.

One thing I like about Trump is that he yells back. You can call it bluster if you like. I call it standing up to bullies.

What worries me about Trump is staying power and focus. Will he go ADHD and say "F*k it " before the election?

A normal person under the constant "race/rape" assault would crack and give up.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:15 AM (cNtqS)

218 Yesterday, on the floor of the United State Senate, Ted Cruz called the Majority Leader of his own party a liar and accused him being in the pocket of corrupt lobbyists.

Until yesterday Cruz had done nothing that daring - and quite a few things the opposite of that.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 25, 2015 10:15 AM (xUcC/)

219 6th

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 25, 2015 10:16 AM (0FSuD)

220 "This state of affairs was identified at least as far back as 2008. What has the GOPe done about it? Not a damned thing."

That's wrong. They did do something about it before the last Convention. The removed the State Parties ability to name their own Delegates and moved it to the national level.

Thus taking one more step that only gopE certified candidates can win.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 25, 2015 10:17 AM (pir3m)

221 If Perry were the nominee, which he won't be, I could hardly drag myself to the voting booth. I fail to see what he has to offer. Stumbling answers to questions, hipster glasses, and Gardasil for everyone.

The current governor of Texas, Scott Abbot, would be far better.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 25, 2015 10:17 AM (FFIoe)

222 I think Trump will get bored and drop out.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at July 25, 2015 10:17 AM (Umz0g)

223 As of today --

First Tier: Cruz, Paul Walker

Second Tier: Fiorina, Carson, Jindal

The rest are just not what I would consider reliable as far as grounding philosophy to help inform them when making the decisions required of POTUS.

Fiorina has been moving up quickly because of her media savvy. Carson is on there because my college daughter just likes him and he is not a politician -- although from the deep blue East Coast some of his assumptions need to be questioned.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2015 10:18 AM (MIKMs)

224 Christian Adams@ElectionLawCtr

I've never seen anything like@tedcruz speech on floor today.

yeah.

And that is precisely the problem.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:18 AM (cNtqS)

225 By your apparent definition, the only way Cruz could avoid the charge of being a "milquetoast" would be for him to beat McConnell over the head with a cane.

Hickory, please. I'm a traditionalist.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2015 10:20 AM (ztOda)

226 All great bits about candidates. Its easy to find fault and complain and be upset but the fact is, the GOP has an amazing array of high quality, young, vibrant, and interesting candidates out there this time. This is by far the best set of potentials I've seen since Reagan, and there's more options than ever before in my lifetime.

If it mattered, if I thought there was even a shred of a chance the next president could even start to turn this disaster around, I'd be excited by this election year's offerings.

But like most people here, and I suspect across America, I'm burnt out on promises, lies, and failure by the Republican Party to even try to fight back, and can see that the republic is done.

Why do you think Trump is doing so well? its not because people love Trump. Its because when the ship is going down, the most entertaining guy at least keeps your mind off the sharks as they get closer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:21 AM (39g3+)

227 I can only conclude that they don't see it as a problem.

The GOP leadership hates the base and wants nothing more to dilute its power.

Letting Democrats vote in R primaries lets them drag the candidate more liberal, which is what the GOPe and CoC want.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2015 10:21 AM (oVJmc)

228 And that is precisely the problem. Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:18 AM

I still maintain that the "problem" is that he allowed himself to be duped. Just as, apparently, he was duped when he missed the ChoomTrade vote and the Iran nuke sellout.

A guy who doesn't mind the store is not a good candidate to be put in charge of the whole shopping center.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 10:21 AM (rCmeG)

229 "212. And Obama gave us 404Care while the eGOPs posture over its repeal."

***
I give you footnotes and you dodge the Supreme Court question.

You are in need of a remedial class in both history and political science.

History:

(1) 404 Care passed when the Dems had a super majority in both houses and the presidency. Nothing the GOP could do about that.

(2) Google, Heller, Second Amendment, and individual right. Let us know if you still doubt the value of Reagan's and Bushs' Supreme Court appointments.

Poli Sci: As for posturing about 404 Care's repeal, you seem not to know about the presidential veto.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:21 AM (uSM1W)

230 Cruz for Attorney General

Carson for Surgeon General

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 10:22 AM (VPLuQ)

231 the fact is, the GOP has an amazing array of high
quality, young, vibrant, and interesting candidates out there this time.
This is by far the best set of potentials I've seen since Reagan, and
there's more options than ever before in my lifetime.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:21 AM

It does? Really? Cool!

Could you persuade one of them to run for president?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 25, 2015 10:23 AM (rCmeG)

232 Hickory, please. I'm a traditionalist.
Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2015 10:20 AM (ztOda)

There's nothin' like a good piece of hickory.

Posted by: Pale Rider at July 25, 2015 10:24 AM (UJvRO)

233
I still maintain that the "problem" is that he allowed himself to be duped

Did he get duped? Cruz is a damn smart lawyer.

I think that it is more likely that

a) He is playing the "I am shocked, SHOCKED that these things are going on" bid to increase his polling percentage and/or

b) He is pissed that he got cut out of the Ex-Im gravy train and is trying to get revenge.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:25 AM (cNtqS)

234 That's wrong. They did do something about it before the last Convention. The removed the State Parties ability to name their own Delegates and moved it to the national level.

Yeah, the original idea of a party was that a group of people with shared, similar ideas on politics would build a coalition, vote on what they wanted, and then members in each state would vote on the candidates they preferred out of ones running on that ticket.

Now the party is a small group of elites making every decision and ignoring their alleged members. Nobody is a member of a party any longer, not in the true sense of the word. They're just guys with the band's tee shirt. They have no say, just show up to cheer once every 2 years.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:25 AM (39g3+)

235 As for posturing about 404 Care's repeal, you seem not to know about the presidential veto.

The Congress is clearly powerless against the Presidency.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2015 10:25 AM (rwI+c)

236 "225. Hickory please. I'm a traditionalist..."[/i}

***

A traditionalist will favor gutta percha with a gold cane head.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:25 AM (uSM1W)

237 If Cruz and/or Paul do not make it, I think their work in the Senate is very valuable and too important to be wasted on AG or other Cabinet post.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2015 10:26 AM (MIKMs)

238 Walker/West or Walker/Fiorina

Combines the second best conservative with the least negatives with a Democrat demographic splitter.

You'll get my bill.

Posted by: Consultant without portfolio at July 25, 2015 10:29 AM (Pxz7k)

239 These Experion "Get your credit swagger on" ads are really dumb. Does anyone believe that having a high FICO credit score, even one as high as 812, will get them more freebies when buying furniture on credit than someone who pays in full, in cash, up front?

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:29 AM (UJvRO)

240 Perry-Fiorina has a nice ring to it.

Until they release the clips of Fiorina passing gas in the mud pool with shrek. and don't even get me started on Perry in drag as Madea.
His hateful cis normative cross dressing is an affront to the trans gender community . The 21st century equivalent of blackface.

Posted by: Squiggy Rifenstahl at July 25, 2015 10:29 AM (3iOkP)

241 The Congress is clearly powerless against the Presidency.

We prefer the terms 'team' and 'collaboration'.

Posted by: GOP Congress at July 25, 2015 10:30 AM (cNtqS)

242 Putting Cruz as AG would be a horrific waste.

If not Pres or VP, then Scotus it is. Or just stay in the senate.

I do think Bush would put Miss Lindsey as SecDef though, which would not be a terrible place for him to be.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at July 25, 2015 10:30 AM (Umz0g)

243 "225...Why do you think Trump is doing so well?

***

Trump has his finger exactly on the pulse of 2015 America. He is a familiar reality show personality who says he hates politicians, business as usual and the media.

Since a lot of people also hate politicians, business as usual and the media, Trump's message is resonating with them despite there being an actual record to support anything Trump says, and much to refute it.

Trump is perfectly position to appeal to the same emotion driven Low Info Voter demographic who twice made Obama President.

The difference is Trump, being Trump, cannot be elected and so is doing it all in service of Hillary.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:31 AM (uSM1W)

244 Fiorina should be the candidate the GOP leadership is promoting and helping the most, if for no other reason than she kicks the walker out from under Hillary. And she is really good in an interview. She's a squish, so they should love her.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:32 AM (39g3+)

245 "Let's add 31 states to the union. You know the Mexicans (well, all of them except the connected and the connected to the connected) want it. So, I'm gonna annex Mexico. It's gonna be YUUUUUGE!"

"Think of the jobs just to modernize the infrastructure. And global competition/trade? Our new border would be that much closer to the Canal. Nice military benefit.

And the weed and coke money wouldn't line cartel pockets, the farmers and distributors would get a better cut. Hey, I'm a businessman."

Well, it does screams capitalis and general welfare as intended in the preamble to the Constitution.

Let's make America great!

Posted by: something else Trump could say to stir the pot at July 25, 2015 10:32 AM (6E2VN)

246 (1) 404 Care passed when the Dems had a super majority in both houses and the presidency. Nothing the GOP could do about that.

I can tell you have reading comprehension problems. I stated Obama gave us 404Care, knowing the Pubbies had no way to stop it. But they've had ways to stop it since November 2010, and have done jack shit to stop it.

(2) Google, Heller, Second Amendment, and individual right. Let us know if you still doubt the value of Reagan's and Bushs' Supreme Court appointments.

Heller looks great on paper. In reality, cities (almost all Dem) still infringe on gun ownership rights. And now we have Choom Boy using his 'phone and a pen' to regulate gun ownership. Again, if the Pubbies are not going to stand up for gun ownership in clear and uncertain terms, 'shall not be infringed', there is only a difference between the two of timing, not substance. Hell, Machin ran as a pro-gun Dem from WV, a pro-gun state, then flipped once he got into the Senate.

Poli Sci: As for posturing about 404 Care's repeal, you seem not to know about the presidential veto.

One has to assume you haven't heard of this thing the House has called 'The Power of the Purse'. They could defund it any day now, if they had the desire as well as the balls to stand up to a shutdown when Choom Boy vetoes that budgetary item. But they don't.

But, hey, keep believing there's actually a difference between the two parties.

Posted by: RickZ at July 25, 2015 10:34 AM (HEtQ3)

247 "By your apparent definition, the only way Cruz could avoid the charge of
being a 'milquetoast' would be for him to beat McConnell over the head
with a cane."

Mitch would just retract his head into his shell.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2015 10:34 AM (noWW6)

248
The difference is Trump, being Trump, cannot be elected

Why ?

Because he is a not narcissistic , America-hating, crypto-commie bastard with a giant racial axe to grind?

Because that is the new hotness.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:35 AM (cNtqS)

249 Posted by: something else Trump could say to stir the pot at July 25, 2015 10:32 AM (6E2VN)

--I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada. More culturally similar, relatively small population, and as a bonus the lobster island dispute would be ended (or at worst be an interstate problem, not an international one).

Hey, we can dream!

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:35 AM (i4l0B)

250 And the pacific ones. BC and Alberta would be fine additions to the USA, and would give us a land route straight to Alaska.

Because he is a not narcissistic

You think the guy that names everything after himself when he builds it is not narcissistic?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:37 AM (39g3+)

251 --I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada. More culturally similar, relatively small population, and as a bonus the lobster island dispute would be ended (or at worst be an interstate problem, not an international one).

On the downer side, it would be like Canada annexing Detroit welfare wise. An infinite money suck.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2015 10:37 AM (rwI+c)

252
--I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada

Iceland 51 and Greenland 52 FTW!

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:38 AM (cNtqS)

253 'Phucough' is Yiddish for 'brotherhood'. Phucough Schvartze! See what I did there? So witty!

Posted by: Jon Leibowitz- Stewart at July 25, 2015 10:38 AM (gwG9s)

254 Seems about right: New Horizons scientists named a region of Pluto after Sir Edmond Hillary, called the "Hillary Mountains" and placed it just adjacent to another region named after Cthulhu.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 10:39 AM (TxJGV)

255 You think the guy that names everything after himself when he builds it is not narcissistic?

You left off a couple of traits.

Every single politician has the quality of narcissism. It's a job requirement.

The other traits that fuel the narcissism are more important to evaluate.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:40 AM (cNtqS)

256 You think the guy that names everything after himself when he builds it is not narcissistic?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2015 10:37 AM (39g3+)

Absolutely not!

Posted by: The Flavian Amphitheater at July 25, 2015 10:40 AM (HEtQ3)

257 252
--I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada

Iceland 51 and Greenland 52 FTW!
Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:38 AM (cNtqS)

--If the USA added the Atlantics, Iceland, and Greenland, there'd only need to be one more to get 0bama's 57 states.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:40 AM (i4l0B)

258
Marie, Marie, Marie... you are a fk up. Lady won 127 million in PowerBall. Living in trailer with 4 kids one with CP. Five months later she's still in trailer and cops raid it looking for her gangbanger boyfriend. They find him and 3 other gang bangers. Marie is arrested for m.j. possession.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 25, 2015 10:41 AM (iQIUe)

259 Lady won 127 million in PowerBall. Living in trailer with 4 kids one with CP

How many 60" plasma tvs were in the trailer?

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:42 AM (cNtqS)

260 My mistake -- Marie bought a house. Plenty of room for her, the kids, and the gang....

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 25, 2015 10:42 AM (iQIUe)

261 254 Seems about right: New Horizons scientists named a region of Pluto after Sir Edmond Hillary, called the "Hillary Mountains" and placed it just adjacent to another region named after Cthulhu.

Posted by: MTF at July 25, 2015 10:39 AM (TxJGV)

--I take it they are the 11,000 ft. mountains, the highest on Pluto? That's pretty cool. Pluto is much prettier than that fugly Planet Hillary the New Yorker made.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:42 AM (i4l0B)

262

Did you see this over at Weasel Zippers?

Ali Khamenei Just Tweeted A Picture Of President Obama Committing Suicide

http://bit.ly/1gUZ0tG

wow

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2015 10:43 AM (qCMvj)

263 I believe that a few years ago Trump was attacking the very position on immigration that he is now getting attention for taking.

I would like to know why.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 25, 2015 10:43 AM (a42f0)

264 246. You've become tiresome. Your "Wad 'av the bloody Romans ever done for us?" schtick was funnier when Monty Python did it.

I can explain to you the importance of Heller to gun rights... I can tell you that as a direct result of Heller (and McDonald) that residents of Chicago now have concealed carry rights that they would never have had but for GOP Supreme Court nominees...

... but I cannot understand it for you.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:43 AM (uSM1W)

265 So, I'm gonna annex Mexico.

I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.

And the pacific ones. BC and Alberta would be fine additions to the USA, and would give us a land route straight to Alaska.

One North American Union coming right up!

Posted by: Teh globalists at July 25, 2015 10:44 AM (sdi6R)

266 I died with no legs because I drove drunk!

Posted by: Barry's Legless Dad at July 25, 2015 10:45 AM (gwG9s)

267
The Greater NorthAmerican CoProsperity Sphere

Why go socialist ? Communism's cheaper.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:46 AM (cNtqS)

268

Wow. So a very small but very vocal group of Race Firsters love Donald trump. Very concerned about race and race mixing. The ones who call people who disagree with them cuckservatives. Ace discussed this yesterday

And now there is a very vocal element of republican operatives and pundits who are painting ALL voters concerned about the border with the same racist brush

Rick Wilson for one.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 10:46 AM (zOTsN)

269 "263 I believe that a few years ago Trump was attacking the very position on immigration that he is now getting attention for taking. I would like to know why."

***

A few years ago there was nothing in it for Trump (and Hillary) is a pretty safe bet.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:47 AM (uSM1W)

270 Sorry for the slightly off question -- Isn't the richest person in the world Carlos Slim, wait for it, of Mexico?

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2015 10:47 AM (MIKMs)

271 ... but I cannot understand it for you.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:43 AM (uSM1W)

As I said, Heller sounds great on paper. Remind me again how many gun stores are in Chicago? How about DC? Or even NYC? And now Chicago is going after gun stores in its suburbs, suing them. Yep, real change.

Posted by: The Flavian Amphitheater at July 25, 2015 10:47 AM (HEtQ3)

272 265 So, I'm gonna annex Mexico.

I'd prefer America annex the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.

And the pacific ones. BC and Alberta would be fine additions to the USA, and would give us a land route straight to Alaska.

One North American Union coming right up!
Posted by: Teh globalists at July 25, 2015 10:44 AM (sdi6R)

--Nah. USA gets the Atlantics. Canada finally severs the cord with Quebec, who become a craptastic Euro-style dystopia. The remainder of Canada, still most of its territory and population, hangs together, despite rumblings of secession from BC and Alberta.

Sounds like a dream scenario, as long as the status quo ante de facto merging of USA and Mexico is halted.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:48 AM (UJvRO)

273 Cuffy Meh. Dave in Texas. All tweeting blanket statements that if you agree with trump you are racist

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 10:48 AM (zOTsN)

274 Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:35 AM (i4l0B)

Annex them both. Marijuana and lobster. What's not to like.

I wonder what brand of weed would become globally recognized. A strain with red, white and blue crystals would be neat. Old Glory? Patriot Buds? Red White and Blue? America?

Dreaming is fun. A global r&r market dominated by American business.

Trump/Fiorina 2016!

Gotta legalize pot for recreational use here first... Should be on the list of topics. #10 maybe, or whatever. But on the list. Has a Yuuuuuge impact on how dangerous criminal Mexico is.

Posted by: something else Trump could say to stir the pot at July 25, 2015 10:49 AM (6E2VN)

275 271. LOL. Gun stores?!?

Access to firearms, legal or otherwise, does not seem to be a problem for any Chicagoans.

Posted by: Raspail at July 25, 2015 10:50 AM (uSM1W)

276 Allan Bourdis

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 10:50 AM (zOTsN)

277 270 Sorry for the slightly off question -- Isn't the richest person in the world Carlos Slim, wait for it, of Mexico?
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2015 10:47 AM (MIKMs)

--Yes. He also bailed out the New York Times, which is even more an Amen Corner for amnesty, which in turn encourages more illegal immigration, thereby enriching Slim further.

Slim is also a member of the Lebanese-Mexican merchant class, small but influential.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:51 AM (i4l0B)

278 A couple of years ago they projected a giant image of Obama on a building in Moscow with a giant banana swinging into his mouth. But of course, the donks think he is so loved.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 25, 2015 10:51 AM (iQIUe)

279 I would only countenance annexing Mexico or any part thereof if the inhabitants were denied the franchise indefinitely.

Posted by: logprof at July 25, 2015 10:53 AM (UJvRO)

280 They arrested a guy for shotgunning that woman on Sunset in Hwd a few months ago. If you remember, she was a young an attractive woman who didnt have an enemy in the world -- except the guy she had a financial dispute with. People in Hwd never pay you...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 25, 2015 10:53 AM (iQIUe)

281 We will lose.

Those who do not embrace the slate of amnesty loving republicans will be branded racist by republicans

And

We

Will

Lose

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 10:54 AM (zOTsN)

282 230
Cruz for Attorney General

Carson for Surgeon General

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 25, 2015 10:22 AM (VPLuQ)

Levin for Attorney General. Or at least Solicitor General.
"That's the FACT, you JERK! Or should I say, 'Wise Latina?' You're an idiot! There! I said it!"

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 25, 2015 10:54 AM (yxw0r)

283 And now there is a very vocal element of republican operatives and
pundits who are painting ALL voters concerned about the border with the
same racist brush.

I have no doubt that the GOP is absolutely just as capable of racist moby operations as the lefties are.

In fact I am not sure how you would tell (D) or (R) instigators apart.

The entire MSM and Beltway is wired this way. Racial apologism and "honest discussions" bought us nothing but SJW mau-mau ing and bullying.

Who wants to live their life with the muzzle of the race gun constantly pointed at their face whether it is deserved or not?

It's disappointing , but not surprising that actual white racists have jumped in the fight. If they actually have in any meaningful way. I need more evidence that this is not the SJWs creating a crisis.

As I said, the Trump phenomenon touches something primal: Self-defense.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 10:56 AM (cNtqS)

284 What is stunning to me is not that there racists, or even that they are attracted to trump in some way

It's how quickly people like Cuffy, or Dave in Texas, or Rick wilson have selected the meme that if you share trumps concerns you must be a racist

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 10:59 AM (zOTsN)

285
I voted for Romney and my country got destroyed And I have to watch the idiot McConnell continually act like a petty little controlling tyrant that is helping the progs to cement the destruction.

Posted by: GBruno at July 25, 2015 11:00 AM (u49WF)

286 It's how quickly people like Cuffy, or Dave in Texas, or Rick wilson
have selected the meme that if you share trumps concerns you must be a
racist

It wouldn't matter what Trump said. It would be portrayed as racist/sexist etc.

What has happened to our country is horrifying. Our gut reaction is to go to the familiar: Cruz, Perry, even Jeb and Rubio.

I am sorry to see such long time smart guys cower in fear of the racist label.

Conservatives are so used to the shit sandwich that it has become their default meal.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 11:03 AM (cNtqS)

287 I do not trust trump. I do not trust any of them frankly. But trump is raising the issue at least

The people who are the quickest to brand ALL trump supporters racist are the ones most heavily invested in another candidate

We will lose. You cannot call someone a racist and then insist they vote for them

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 11:04 AM (zOTsN)

288
The people who are the quickest to brand ALL trump supporters racist are the ones most heavily invested in another candidate

Yep. Sad to say Trump flushed out many more fools than even I expected.

It's best to stay dispassionate. LiB is not just a saying, it is the only philosophy left to keep one sane.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 11:08 AM (cNtqS)

289 I see a few other Morons want a candidate to bring Manifest Destiny into this Election...Mexico is an easier target than Canuckistan.

Posted by: scrood at July 25, 2015 11:09 AM (3b9U4)

290 It would be great if there were an investigation of who these new nazis are so we can stop sliming everybody else

Posted by: ThunderB at July 25, 2015 11:14 AM (zOTsN)

291 It would be great if there were an investigation of who these new nazis are

The Social Democrat run Congress would have to investigate itself.

The GOP Congress loses NOTHING by losing the White House
again and in fact , could gain.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 25, 2015 11:17 AM (cNtqS)

292 Fargo is great! In one scene they have a portable mitzvah tank parked outside.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 25, 2015 11:20 AM (iQIUe)

293 Trey Gowdy is just more failure theater.
His typical questioning goes like this:

G. We know you raped that boy

H. I did not

G. You did and here are the pictures

H. That's not me

G. Really? Where were you on August 15?

H. I don't remember

G. Are you going to sit there and tell me that you didn't rape that boy? We have pictures

H. I have no idea what you're talking about. And anyway what does it matter

G. You're dismissed and there will be absolutely no consequences. But you just know that we know that you know we know

*struts around room*

Posted by: Mr Ed at July 25, 2015 11:34 AM (0cMkb)

294 I hope everyone realizes that the "familiarity chart" is mostly the result of Democrats and the media constantly talking about those Republicans that they want to be out front.

Posted by: TB at July 25, 2015 11:43 AM (8u/5i)

295 The Republicans are what they are because it's working for them. Since the 2008 elections they are +2 houses of Congress +8 governorships and +33 state legislative bodies. And they will probably add to that count this election cycle regardless of Conservative Anger because the Democrats are just that bad.

We, meaning Conservatives, are on the horns of a dilemma. Withdraw our support and the GOPe still wins, at least at the House level, and they decide they need us not at all. Support them and they read that as acquiescence.

In the the immortal words of That Guy, we are so very very boned.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 25, 2015 11:48 AM (rwI+c)

296 OT- Not political-just uplifting news

12 year old who has cancer and considers himself a 'foodie" gives "Make a Wish" money to feed others.

Thew political slant of this site is liberal. However, there are always good stories that have no political ramification-just people doing good things for others:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2015 11:49 AM (OSs/l)

297 "Because he is a not narcissistic "

Trump is not narcissistic?!

Ooooooookay then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2015 12:06 PM (OSs/l)

298 I do not want to depress you. But that illegal waker spoke to will never be sent home. NEVER!!!!

Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at July 25, 2015 12:13 PM (Je4OY)

299 Perry is shitting the bed again. He needs to fire Steve Schmidt and Austin Barbour. Attacking Trump only makes Teflon Don stronger, and Perry's message gets drowned out. He can say whatever he wants, and I'd be inclined to believe him given his 13-year record in Texas, except he's hired conniving, lying sacks of shit who made careers of back-stabbing the base. That with his past performance means he's going nowhere fast in this race.

I still think it's Rubio / Bush. Jeb is making a slight "comeback" but Trumpmania shows how little appetite voters have for the legacy nominees in both parties. Hillary's numbers have been sinking, and Jeb's have been improving, though he's still underwater.

Walker's response to the illegal immigrant family is another swing and a miss for him. Of course, Rubio would have just talked about the American Dream. Trump we know is full of beans this time because of his comments about Romney's policy of self-deportation. "22 years, thanks. Get out." Sounds about right to me. Did you have a work visa? Pay taxes? Collect benefits? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. If you wanna stay, your boss must sponsor you and pay a fine. You can't have a criminal record. Back of the line.

Paul is still a dark horse, though I don't particularly like him. I think the libertarian vote is overrated. Cruz is as big a huckster as Trump. At least Trump is entertaining. Fiorina, not so much.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 25, 2015 12:34 PM (nCKKS)

300 W seemed to have better political instincts than Perry. Walker is doing quite well with no big money backing as far as I can tell.

Posted by: not seeing it at July 25, 2015 12:39 PM (PGh+Q)

301 Jeb gives the Democrats the presidency. Think big money RNC donors will turn on him soon. Walker has been signally that he won't rock the boat. That his changes in Wisconsin were as tiny as he could make them. That plays well in Free S Nation. Cristy couldn't make that play because he is too asinine.

Posted by: deep or at least different thinker at July 25, 2015 12:45 PM (PGh+Q)

302 Walker should have said, "Let me ask you a question. Have you voted before and do you plan to vote next year?".

Posted by: waelse1 at July 25, 2015 02:46 PM (PVy3a)

303 Carly Fiorina is my choice right now. She's better at everything than any other current GOP candidate. I know she has next to zero chance of actually winning this thing, but until she drops out, she's my girl.

Posted by: holygoat at July 25, 2015 03:44 PM (t3wLW)

304 Walker is to conservativism what Reagan was to Liberalism.

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