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Punk Rock is Now Just Empty Posturing, But Monk Rock Is the New Punk
This makes a surprising amount of sense.
There are obvious similarities between punk rock and religious monasticism. Both are cultures that deviate from the mainstream. Both eschew high fashion in favor of simplicity. Both believe in a Do It Yourself (DIY) ethic. (Corporate label won't sell your record? Produce and distribute it yourself. The secular world is obsessed with fame and toys? Wear a robe and shave your head.)Worth reading. The website sells merch, but I do not see any actual music. True enough, punk rock was an awful lot about the fashion, merch, and other tribal signalings, but they also did have some music to go along with it. So we'll see what tunes come out of this "monkrock" thing, but I guess we'll see later.
Punks and monks are about a stripped-down opposition to a sinful world that can me sermonized into making sense. Enter MONKROCK. The all-caps official name of the company is the brainchild of Kevin Clay, a musician and artist who lives in Tennessee. Clay, who is a "lay monastic," believes that the most authentic expression of punk in 2015 is traditional Catholic monasticism. From his website:The anti-pop...spirit of punk finds its highest expression in the monastic vows of poverty, chastity, obedience and a rule of prayer, repentance, and work offered to "God alone." Through community and the dissemination of art, media, propaganda and merchandise, MONKROCK exists to make everyday life a religious experience by empowering people to see the world as their monastery.... What's left is what the punks once criticized mainstream rock for: bloat, meaningless posturing and sad nostalgia. There seem to be endless documentaries being made about the history of D.C. punk -- more films than have even been made about communism. In Prospect piece, contemporary punks, faced with the kind of leaders and cultural atmosphere they could only dream of in 1984, are left with vague slogans about "social change." There's also what I call "retroactive repression," wherein a liberal confronted with a string of culture war victories [resorts] to the past to complain. Thus a woman in the Prospect piece is angry because there weren't enough "women or people of color" in the 1980s punk scene. Punks and liberals seem to have won the culture war, but leftist iconoclasm is so woven into their sense of self-worth that they ignore the real misfits and rebels of 2015. Completely co-opted by liberalism, punks have no interested in what is now a truly marginalized group: the orthodox religious.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2015 02:50 PM (k2fxD)
Posted by: joey biden at July 20, 2015 02:51 PM (kivUY)
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Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: brak at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (eOpVe)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (BlCZ6)
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: washed up on Dover Beach at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (Vf5rR)
Posted by: James Osterberg at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Richard Starkey at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (8CdUx)
I caught the tail end of the Northern California punk boom, and the "tribal signalings" (great phrase) were amazingly complicated.
East Bay or SF, poseur or pseudo, green jacket or leather, Doc Martens or work boot; and on and on....
The music pretty much sucked though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (k2fxD)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Monk Rocker at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (J9rqz)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (Spluw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB_fgkA3W80
I guess that's my Monk Rock.
Posted by: RKae at July 20, 2015 02:57 PM (3waQl)
Kinda hard to show off the heroin tracks when you're wearing a habit.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (RD7QR)
Monk on your back
Posted by: Aldo Nova at July 20, 2015 02:57 PM (Vf5rR)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:57 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (m9wUQ)
That's why the old model of the leftist rebel will always dominate popular culture, no matter how totally they control the culture, politics, education, etc. They are the man but the counterculture isn't exciting and cool to young people. Wearing a leather jacket with F-- the police on the back in metal spikes is exciting and interesting. Reading your Bible at home is not.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: nonexistent AoSHQ mechandise store at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (b5F9l)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (39g3+)
How about a jacket that says both "Jesus Saves" and "Fuck the Police"?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (2Ojst)
Yeah, I'm not buying it. Lead with the music, or shut up about everything else.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (TOk1P)
Yep. Great music sells itself.
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 20, 2015 02:59 PM (Vf5rR)
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (GMG6W)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (tqHgG)
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (Spluw)
Aquestion that is difficult to answer is which show had the better anti-punk rock episode- CHiPs or Quincy?
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: nonexistent AoSHQ mechandise store
#twoweeks
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (k2fxD)
Posted by: nonexistent AoSHQ mechandise store
Now that's some funny shti.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (tqHgG)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (YI+0n)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (+70b8)
So this must be sweet validation for the 60s garage rock band The Monks ("Complication" "I Hate You").
Posted by: Bud Norton at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (6cOMd)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (iQIUe)
THIS?
Incorrect. It was true about 100 days after Punk came out but that was an intentional thing.
....which is why:
"The anti-pop...spirit of punk finds its highest expression in the monastic vows of poverty, chastity, obedience and a rule of prayer, repentance, and work offered to "God alone."
is fkng laughable. This guy knows nothing.
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at July 20, 2015 03:03 PM (tqHgG)
Posted by: Enigma at July 20, 2015 03:03 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:03 PM (m9wUQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 03:03 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:04 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: The Punk Monkees at July 20, 2015 03:04 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (Q2akM)
Posted by: zombie hank schrader at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (J9rqz)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: James Osterberg (Iggy Pop) at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (39g3+)
Picture of Dawkins in HELL being tortured with the Devils prancing around saying:
"How's my ASS taste now Dicky Boy?"
And actually getting the Devil's ass in his face.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: \m/ The Metal Hat \m/ at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Paul Anka at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (VAsIq)
For a second there I was worried this meant they were doing a remake/mashup of Monk and Cop Rock.
Posted by: Tony Shalhoub at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (b5F9l)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (zABgu)
They really don't.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Grump928(c) confesses at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: allah at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (kivUY)
Metal is still superior
Posted by: \m/ The Metal Hat \m/ at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (7YlUk)
[Thrashing to Gregorian chant]
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (RD7QR)
well as someone pointed out upthread, Enigma already did this, though they were a conventionally-leftist pop band.
( I assume - their big hit was called "Sade-ism.")
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Cersei Lannister at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: zionmbie kid at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (Vf5rR)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (Q2akM)
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Punk was nothing but a cacophony of sounds coming out of the Frankfurt School music room.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Grump928(c) confesses at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (evdj2)
Yeah it was. They had some good points (music was getting too commercialized and slick, the establishment was a joke, etc) in the disco era but really they stood for nothing other than obscenities and looking weird. Some of the music was good, though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (bhepQ)
Maybe this broad should've branched out from her skinhead niche.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (TF10X)
Posted by: Father Daniel 'Pisser' O'ara at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: little sisters of the poor at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Tony Shalhoub at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (b5F9l)
Cleanest punk rockers ever! No smelly hippies here.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Charlemagne at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (Oc9Bg)
Posted by: little sisters of the poor at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (kivUY)
Now, go listen to some Ghost B.C. if you want a prog-metal chantfest.
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (F26eZ)
They really don't.
I think Richard the Lionhearted would get a Reality TV show.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (m9wUQ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (39g3+)
Punk wasn't necissary. There was always NWOBHM
Posted by: \m/ The Metal Hat at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (7YlUk)
Objection, statement requires a very loose definition of "music" to be truthful.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (3ZtZW)
Might not be a great advertisement, since most of these were ruthlessly suppressed.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (RD7QR)
Sure. Muslims. Right.
Posted by: Father Daniel 'Pisser' O'ara at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: bjk at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (x2rNW)
Stand and fight we do consider
Reminded of an inner pact between us
That's seen as we go
And ride there
In motion
To fields in debts of honour defending
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: ace
Dammit, Ace, I'm trying to pretend to work! Which is really hard when I'm laughing so hard there are tears.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (VAsIq)
True. I think Walker, Texas Ranger was about as close as anyone was ready for recently.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (2l5vw)
Punk rock was 99.99997% Tribal Signaling.
Whatever "purpose" there may have been was random.
Posted by: eleven at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (IPzoI)
well, first of all, who says we only "needed" one (or either, for that matter).
For second, didn't punk pre-date NWOBHM?
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (bhepQ)
Beer.
And wine. Lots of sparkling wine.
Posted by: Brother Dom Pérignon at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (laMCB)
Reminded of an inner pact between us
That's seen as we go
And ride there
In motion
To fields in debts of honour defending
/glares at grump928(c)
//shuffles off to dust off his old Yes CDs
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
With Prince John as the sneaky, deal-making a$$hole of the show.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (VAsIq)
Nah actually. Sex Pistols, frinstance, was Johnny Rotten spitting on Hippies and forming a band on request by Malcolm McLaren to sell clothing lines.
Hence: Capitalist, always capitalist.
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (3ZtZW)
Punk was always empty posturing.
Yeah it was. They had some good points (music was getting too commercialized and slick, the establishment was a joke, etc) in the disco era but really they stood for nothing other than obscenities and looking weird. Some of the music was good, though.
Real punk happened way before disco, and in my mind before the word Punk was coined.
Iggy Pop, Patti Smith, MC5, arguably the New York Dolls -- had all come and made their statements before people put the word "punk" on the Sex Pistols in what? '76 or '77?
I dislike these categorical statements of "all of N sucks", especially when I doubt that the statements are informed.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (JtwS4)
>>>It was "Sadeness"
right.
well now we know who the gays in this thread are don't we?!?!
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:09 PM (bhepQ)
Fabulous!
Posted by: zionmbie kid at July 20, 2015 03:12 PM (Vf5rR)
Ed: 'Purple Rain'?
Shaun: No.
Ed: 'Sign o' the Times'?
Shaun: Definitely not.
Ed: The 'Batman' soundtrack?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: 'Dire Straits'?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: Ooh, 'Stone Roses'.
Shaun: Um, No.
Ed: 'Second Coming'.
Shaun: I like it!
Ed: Ahhh! 'Sade'.
Shaun: Yeah, but that's Liz's!
Ed: Yeah, but she did dump you.
Shaun: Oh!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (VbHFl)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (bhepQ)
Dead Milkmen being the exception. Though Rodney Anonymous still plays small clubs from time-to-time.
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: Tony Shaloub at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (BlCZ6)
Getting almost your entire body tattooed because you're a "badass" and then whining about getting extra attention from authorities when you travel.http://www.celebitchy.com/438201/
trace_cyrus_cancels_canadian_concert_because_of_tattoo-harassment_stress/
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (zABgu)
I fell asleep. Literally. If something's boring enough even 537 decibels of it can't keep you awake.
Posted by: eleven at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (IPzoI)
Its exactly the point. Give Griel Marcus a read some time. Lipstick Traces reads like an extended Connections marathon
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (3ZtZW)
Relayer has one of the most evocative phrases ever written in the English language: 'burn their children's laughter'
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (evdj2)
how many rock bands actually get signed anymore? Rock is pretty much dead as a commercial endeavor, almost. Pretty much only metal and nu-metal have any kind of commercial viability.
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (2l5vw)
i have babymetal on most of my lists.
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (m9wUQ)
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He was also as queer as a three-dollar bill, which would most definitely qualify him for one.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (P25Hh)
Getting almost your entire body tattooed because you're a "badass" and then whining about getting extra attention from authorities when you travel.http://www.celebitchy.com/438201/
trace_cyrus_cancels_canadian_concert_because_of_tattoo-harassment_stress/
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (NOIQH)
Face tattoos are a social signal that you're okay with being a dishwasher for the rest of your life.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (RD7QR)
That's when Disco was getting popular. Funk turned into Disco right about then, sadly. Punk was a reaction to the crap that music and culture was becoming, a big flip off to everyone for being so plastic and lame.
We need that kind of movement right now. A huge up yours to the social justice warriors, the radfems, the Democratic party, and all the rest. I wonder if even The Eagles would perform "Get Over It" today.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: AlGore at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (+hPIb)
Lived through that part of the San Francisco '70s though I was a little short on leather and hair dye.
Now, I figure the best thing you can do to piss off the California powers-that-be while having fun is a Ferrari 575 and a big Duramax pickup.
Posted by: JEM at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (o+SC1)
I thought performances were back to being the moneymakers.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:17 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:17 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Soona
Oh, thtop that, thilly!
*beheads Soona with a broadsword*
Posted by: Richard, the FABULOUSLY Lionhearted at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (VAsIq)
The writer of Lion in Winter sure thought so. Not sure how much actual historical support there is for it, even though modern historians find gay, left handed, short epileptics in every single figure of the past.
Dead Milkmen being the exception.
That's because they were so hilarious. I loved them and Mojo Nixon, because of the words.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (39g3+)
People outside the industry may not notice, but barely anyone makes money on music anymore. Now, people used to not make much on their albums (live performance was where you made your money; the record company took most of the cut on records), but now they make almost nothing.
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (bhepQ)
"Iggy Pop, Patti Smith, MC5, arguably the New York Dolls -- had all come and made their statements before people put the word "punk" on the Sex Pistols in what? '76 or '77?"
Iggy Pop was one of the best live shows I ever saw. Incredible.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (OD2ni)
So the fcuked up is strong in that gene pool
Posted by: little sisters of the poor at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (iQIUe)
Performances and merch are where the money is, and that's a big place where the record companies are jamming their tentacles via 365 contracts.
If you're a musician, you'd have to be a sucker to sign anything at this point.
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (+hPIb)
I Wish I was a Punk Rocker - Sandi Thorn
https://youtu.be/vc2jDz6w-r4
Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (zt+N6)
for which bands? The stones can always mount a lucrative tour, but which bands originating in the past 10 years have any kind of major moneymaking tours?
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (39g3+)
This post made me remember what punk turned into back in the 80s, at least in my little corner of the world.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (eytER)
for which bands, as I asked?
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Sulu at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (Dwehj)
I am a punky monk
I smell like a skunky skunk,
Don't know what I want
But I know how to get it
I want to be chaste, pray in place
'Cause I want to vow poverty!
Posted by: The Monk Pistols at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (0cMkb)
I know plenty of people who make a living playing music. I know a couple who make a very good living doing it. I don't know anyone getting ridiculously rich at it. And really, should they? I'd like to see movie stars pay drop back closer to that of those working the boards.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (evdj2)
http://tinyurl.com/Monk-Rock-M-Python-Grail
"Pie Jesu Domine . . .
Dona eis requiem"
[WHACK]
Posted by: Sharkman at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (72D6h)
I don't think there's been a point at which that was ever not true, for musicians. A band can sell ten million albums and see maybe a few thousand bucks from it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (39g3+)
I'm now a provisional fan.
...
that song is awesome, but I have yet to find any of their other songs I can listen to.
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:21 PM (zABgu)
The fashion was fun though. I love the Vivienne Westwood fashion from back in the punk days. She is a bit cray cray now with her designs, but back then, she designed clothes for women to show off feminine curves while making them feel powerful. Curves and tartan, good stuff.
But she will always have my love for calling out Michelle's appalling fashion sense, good for her.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:21 PM (hvf9s)
I was shocked when they did it. Lefty douche Don Henley is the least self-aware person on the planet.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 20, 2015 03:21 PM (b65cm)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:21 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Dirty MONKy at July 20, 2015 03:22 PM (1CroS)
Getting!?! Radio payola scandals and record labels cranking out shit right, left and center since the 50s.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 03:22 PM (Spluw)
The Clash was named after the sound of my thighs as I walk
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (39g3+)
TW Nominees
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 03:22 PM (laMCB)
Why not go all LadyBeard? You could get rich in Japan.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (iQIUe)
that song is awesome, but I have yet to find any of their other songs I can listen to.
Oh. I just went to their website and played the first video, it's "Road of Resistance" as I look it up.
It's still playing so I haven't heard an entire song yet, but it's enough to make me a provisional fan.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Alphaville at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (VAsIq)
Pretty odd, huh. I will say that Boy928 is getting his most work from "country" bands. Then jazz, of all things, and lastly Rock.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:18 PM (39g3+)
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Visited Triefels an Gebirge in Germany where he was imprisoned. The guide told us the lord of the castle spent a lot of time chasing away his "male lovers" because they'd stand outside the prison-room windows and sing love songs to him all night.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (P25Hh)
http://tinyurl.com/lh3tr3u (youtube)
Includes Gimme Chocolate, Migitsune, Doki-Doki Morning and others.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:24 PM (x3GpS)
I dislike these categorical statements of "all of N sucks", especially when I doubt that the statements are informed.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Soul Train started in 1971.
Disco sucks. Your comment sucks. Your hair sucks. You suck. Your sucking sucks.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2015 03:24 PM (VY8H5)
Posted by: "Dr." Deborah Nucatola at July 20, 2015 03:24 PM (b5F9l)
I don't understand your question?
Rock bands are getting signed, but they generally aren't headlining the big tours. If you're asking about filling arenas, new bands are going to be downbill, just the nature of the beast.
For all we know, in ten years Crobot will be able to fill the stands the way the Foo's do today. But I doubt we'll ever see a freshman or sophomore rock effort mount a stadium tour again.
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: Soona
He was just jealous and wanted me all to himself.
Posted by: Richard the FABULOUSLY Lionhearted at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (bhepQ)
Good question. Maybe Skrillex? But I find it hard to call a kid on a computer a 'band'.
Posted by: mugiwara at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (D5hxK)
Posted by: Edvard Munch Rocks at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (E5UB0)
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Sammy Hagar said much the same thing in his autobiography. He said he was glad he made money in rock before it went bust. He says his current band Chickenfoot is purely a for-the-fun-of-it endeavor, and they don't make any money.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (Q2akM)
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:21 PM (bhepQ)
Ugh. Hate country. You know that guy Todd in the Shadows who does pop song reviews and One Hit Wonderland? He calls a lot of it Bro-Country cause its all about hanging out with your bros and getting chicks and stuff, and how so much of it seems to be guys that wish they weren't doing country music.
And then you throw in the 20 country songs specifically about country music? *Slits wrists*
Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (zt+N6)
He was also as queer as a three-dollar bill, which would most definitely qualify him for one.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (P25Hh)
It's unlikely he was gay. The evidence for his gayness is that he confessed to 'sins of sodom' (which does not necessarily mean gay sex, but may mean sexual violence) and that he wrote a letter to King Phillip of France, talking about how close they were to one another as children.
Against that is the fact that he had an illegitimate son, Phillip of Cognac. There would be very little reason for him to have sex with women outside of wedlock if he were gay.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (m9wUQ)
Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (2Ocf1)
That's not country. Its crappy plastic packaged pop with a slide guitar and a brand new cowboy hat.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:26 PM (39g3+)
When they were younger, just the opposite. Now total bitchtoom,
The Ashley Hack is sweet revenge for those assholes.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (S0Cig)
Stand the marchers soaring talons
Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom
Fighting we know,
Destroy oppression
The point to reaction
As leaders look to you attacking
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:04 PM (V40IZ)
I'm all lost in a supermarket, can no longer shop happily.
Posted by: Mick Jones at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0cMkb)
YMMV
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (zABgu)
i do have a problem telling modern country from standard pop rock, apart from the fashion, a bit of the accent, and the subject matter
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (bhepQ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: wth at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (wAQA5)
From Dharma and Gregg fame?
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: "Dr." Deborah Nucatola at July 20, 2015 03:24 PM (b5F9l)
BOO, HISS!!
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (zABgu)
Wait, so you're telling me the scene from Robin Hood Men in Tights where King Richard happily plants a big wet one on Maid Marion is historically inaccurate? Crap! *sheds a single tear*
Cisnormativity strikes again!
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (hvf9s)
I dunno, maybe. Or maybe its a cultural/time thing we're not understanding today. Like how people think Sam and Frodo must have been lovers, because how could anyone like another dude that much unless they are sexing?
Some leaders inspire such devotion and admiration that someone standing outside and from modern culture might confuse it. I dunno.
I'm just always extremely skeptical because I've read 85003 too many reports and stories about how [insert great figure from the past] was actually homosexual. No matter who they were, what they did, what they stood for, said, and believed. Because, teh Gay.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (39g3+)
The country of today would be called "soft rock" 30-40 years ago.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 03:30 PM (sWgE+)
Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor
Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow
Casting giant shadows off vast
Penetrating force
To alter via the war that seen
As frictions spans the spirits' wrath ascending to redeem
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:30 PM (evdj2)
The Stones are dead to me now.
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (Dwehj)
I am still getting that "satisfaction"!
Posted by: Gen Franco, still dead at July 20, 2015 03:30 PM (S0Cig)
If you play Country backwards, you get your dog back, your truck back, your trailer back, your girl back....
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 03:31 PM (qBbz7)
Any opinion on bell bottoms and platform shoes?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 03:31 PM (1CroS)
wife was listening to a "pop country" station on our cable system.
They played a Meaghan Trainor and a Maroon 5 songs
Posted by: Tony Shaloub at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (BlCZ6)
Just what is the future?
The things we've done and said.
Let's just push the button.
We'd be better off dead!
And I hate you!
and I berate you!
and I can't wait to get to you...
The sins of all the fathers,
being dumped on us - the sons
The only choice we're given is:
How many megatons?
So I eschew you!
And I say "SCREW YOU"!
and I hope you're blue too!
We're all bloody worthless,
Just greedy human scum,
The numbers all add up
to a negative sum...
And I hate you!
And I hate you!
And I hate you...too!
BLOW IT ALL TO BLOODY FUCKIN' 'ELL!!!
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (eytER)
CHiPS. The punks in that episode were bleeding on their guitar strings (from climbing over razor wire during a theft). They actually suffered for their art in more than a figurative sense.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (UPYPp)
The scaled down and anti-corporate mentality was actually a good conservative, "do-it-yourself" movement early on. Bands bypassed the big record companies and went into the studios to record their music and sell their own records. Like a return to early rock and roll. It's like punks backed up the car to the place in the road where Elvis got lost and wound up in Hollywood and started down the original road again and got road rage for getting lost.
Monk Rock sounds like when a studio comes up with a movie title and then writes the script. Like Sharknado.
Posted by: Dang at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (2oWD2)
If history's any guide, there's a big, nasty, grunge surprise waiting in the wings.
Posted by: Chupacabras at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (W2YA6)
Listen, your friends have been broken,
They tell us of your poison; now we know.
Kill them, give them as they give us.
Slay them, burn their children's laughter
On to hell.
Great stuff!
Posted by: zionmbie kid at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (Vf5rR)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:25 PM (m9wUQ)
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Image. They were into that back then too. Of course, he might have been bi when he sired the kid, but chose to go full gay later.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (P/xrJ)
Posted by: wrg500
Bob Dole knows a thing or two about "soft rock"
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (VAsIq)
>>>"There are obvious similarities between punk rock and religious monasticism.
Both are cultures that deviate from the mainstream. Both eschew high fashion in favor of simplicity."
Yeah, and both involve humans, and weird haircuts and words. Your point is???
Whenever a libtard wants you to associate two unrelated things, they always use idiotic generalizations like this.
Posted by: Sid Vichyssoise at July 20, 2015 03:33 PM (E5UB0)
Wars that shout in screams of anguish
Power spent passion bespoils our soul receiver
Surely we know.
In glory we rise to offer,
Create our freedom, a word, we utter a word.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:33 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Rob in Mass at July 20, 2015 03:33 PM (mEd1H)
You just made my day!
Those lyrics have always been incredible!
Posted by: RKae at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (YYpAs)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (htmOF)
Posted by: John Travolta at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: eleven at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (IPzoI)
Words cause our banner, victorious our day
Will silence be promised as violence display
The curse increased we fight the pow'r and live by it by day
Our gods awake in thunderous roars and guide
The leader's hands in paths of glory to the cause
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:35 PM (evdj2)
But on the plus side, the resulting songs will be good!
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:35 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (39g3+)
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I visited the castle back in the mid-70's. Long before the big homo historical push.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:36 PM (P25Hh)
So if you play Rap backwards, the ho goes to college, the bitch tells you to GFY, the coca plant grows unmolested, and the cop lives?
Sounds about right.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 03:36 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Sidney Allen Johnson at July 20, 2015 03:37 PM (chkXw)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:37 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:37 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 03:37 PM (qBbz7)
For second, didn't punk pre-date NWOBHM?
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (bhepQ)
Both started up in the mid-70's.
Posted by: The Metal Hat \m/ at July 20, 2015 03:38 PM (7YlUk)
Donna the Buffalo.
and we haven't even mentioned folkish music. Those guys are working.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:38 PM (evdj2)
So if you play Rap backwards, the ho goes to college, the bitch
tells you to GFY, the coca plant grows unmolested, and the cop lives?
Sounds about right.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 03:36 PM (1CroS)
Niiiice!
Play Goth backwards, everything looks hopeful, you have friends, your parents understand you, your clothes are brightly colored.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 03:39 PM (TOk1P)
Image. They were into that back then too. Of course, he might have been bi when he sired the kid, but chose to go full gay later.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (P25Hh)
Illegitimate sons weren't good for your image, though.
I think it as likely that your tour guide was telling tales they had heard. It wouldn't be the first time a misconception has snuck its way into a guided tour to make it more interesting.
There are also stories of Richard seducing noble maidens while in captivity. There's one story of him killing a lion.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:39 PM (m9wUQ)
So they will get their version of Billy Idol?
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (htmOF)
..........................
Speaking of Billy, has he been made to apologize for White Wedding yet?
Posted by: wth at July 20, 2015 03:39 PM (wAQA5)
Bob Dole knows a thing or two about "soft rock"
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 20, 2015 03:32 PM (VAsIq)
Trust me they are only soft for about an hour.
Posted by: Liddy Dole at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (S0Cig)
"CHiPS. The punks in that episode were bleeding on their guitar strings (from climbing over razor wire during a theft). They actually suffered for their art in more than a figurative sense."
I believe the name of the band was Pain so that is very fitting.The great William Forsythe was the lead singer IIRC.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (hvf9s)
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And the Korean shopkeeper gets to go home safe at the end of the day.
Posted by: RKae at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (YYpAs)
*ducks*
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 03:37 PM (VAsIq)
Back in the day I had a friend burn some Nickelback cds for me, because I was unfamiliar. I listened.
We were not friends for much longer after that.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 03:41 PM (TOk1P)
The fist will run
Grasp metal to gun
The spirit sings in crashing tones we gain the battle drum
Our cries will shrill the air will moan and crash into the dawn
The pen won't stay the demon's wings, the hour approaches
Pounding out the devil's sermon
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:41 PM (evdj2)
Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom
Fighting we know,
Destroy oppression
The point to reaction
As leaders look to you attacking
This verse always struck me--I know the song is supposed to be anti-war, but...really, is anyone amongst the Horde ready to dispute these statements...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 03:41 PM (2l5vw)
The country of today would be called "soft rock" 30-40 years ago.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 03:30 PM (sWgE+)
Country's doing well cuz they picked up on the melodic rock of 70s-80s.
Same topics too - love songs, drankin' songs, etc.
Most, though not all, modern rock is pajama boy angst or rap.
Here's some of the better stuff (modern rock) out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-3MIBxQTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF6-J5BCxWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpgPOuBB6xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5tWYmIOWGk
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 03:41 PM (0cMkb)
He got some in prison and others in bars.
The rest, he got workin' on old junk cars...
In the daytime.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 20, 2015 03:42 PM (XmOA9)
Night fever, night fever
We know how to do it
Gimme that night fever, night fever
We know how to show it!
ooooooooooo!
[handrolls everybody!]
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 03:42 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 03:39 PM (m9wUQ)
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I don't know. Someone scratched what looked like a guy buggering a lion on the outside castle wall.
(Okay, I made that up)
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:43 PM (P25Hh)
However, if it's anything like the excerpt you posted, I'll pass.
No one will ever confuse me for an English composition expert but this writer need an editor in the worst way.
Not to mention most punk sux.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2015 03:44 PM (X+nFp)
"People in my region now are relying on God's will, and consolidating their local capabilities and analysis with everybody else except our oldest and most powerful ally"
http://tinyurl.com/pbpg9qh
That's going to leave a mark.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 03:45 PM (sWgE+)
(Okay, I made that up)
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 03:43 PM (P25Hh)
Your audition piece to write for Gawker? An excellent beginning!
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 03:48 PM (hvf9s)
Soon oh soon the light
Pass within and soothe this endless night
And wait here for you
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the time
All we move to gain will reach and calm
Our heart is open
Our reason to be here
Long ago, set into rhyme
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 03:50 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 03:50 PM (ODxAs)
I find it amusing that the woman in whatever that band in the story is supposed to be is whining about how there weren't women or minorities in DC hardcore when Bad Brains, 4 black Rastafarians, were the best band to come out of that scene other than maybe Minor Threat. Scream was one of the bigger DC hardcore bands and they had a black bassist, Skeeter. If you take a wider view than just DC, Blondie of course had Debbie Harry, X had a female singer (Exene), Dead Kennedys had a black drummer (DH Peligro), Black Flag had a Puerto Rican singer and a Colombian drummer (Chavo Reyesand Roberto "Robo" Valverde), Alice Bag Band had a Latina singer (the aforementioned Alice Bag), the Germs had the mixed-race Pat Smear on guitar andLorna Doom on bass and a few different female drummers (including, briefly, a very young Belinda Carlisle)...
Etc, etc. So, shockingly, it's revisionist SJW bullshit.
Posted by: radar at July 20, 2015 03:56 PM (kQfqk)
Posted by: Patrick at July 20, 2015 05:04 PM (U6YEj)
PiL: Public Image - First Issue
Religion
:
Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they've done
This is your religion
:
Posted by: Sid at July 20, 2015 05:18 PM (/5Axw)
Posted by: Johnny Ramone at July 20, 2015 05:23 PM (jfUIE)
God save the Queen
The fascist regime,
They made you a moron
A potential H-bomb
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need.
There's no future for you
http://www.metrolyrics.com/god-save-the-queen-lyrics-sex-pistols.html
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 20, 2015 05:31 PM (jfUIE)
Posted by: Kathy Kinsley at July 20, 2015 06:09 PM (P1Mfe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 20, 2015 07:14 PM (nCKKS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtedDwFT5lo
or The Knights of the New Crusade and "My God is Alive! Sorry About Yours"
"Secret Sign" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvWww24Lxg
Posted by: Slash Buzz at July 20, 2015 07:17 PM (yk5Y5)
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