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Trump: I've Never Asked God for Forgiveness
On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him." There's a nagginess to liberalism which became discredited because it was so naggy, and so arrogant, and so often used by bad people for dishonest purposes. But the old nagginess used to be about giving people a chance, even if they're different than you. The opposite impulse I don't like: Retreat to the primitive comfort of tribal affiliation. His answer here is... well, you can watch it for yourself and make your own choices. I think it's pretty obvious he's an irreligious guy who barely even knows the lingo he's supposed to say in projecting the image of a religious guy. (He does claim to be religious -- but not plausibly.) So is his real failing here that he failed to be fully honest? Or is there a kind of honesty on display in that he never bothered to fake up a good answer to a question about his relationship with God? He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic. And on that -- this is why his McCain answer bothers me. He just doesn't seem to be able to anticipate these big problems coming with his answers. He keeps telling me he's a bright guy, but then he steps on to a bunch of rakes of his own making.Comments
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Well he is certainly acting like the lightening rod
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 01:56 PM (zABgu)
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At least he's flaming out early
Posted by: brak at July 20, 2015 01:56 PM (Tj+s6)
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The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Posted by: some random meathead - just sayin' at July 20, 2015 01:58 PM (+70b8)
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He's overcompensating drastically for SOMETHING, I don't know what. That's why his mouth is always several paces ahead of his brain -- he's just got to say something just so people know he's there.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 01:58 PM (RD7QR)
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Look, everyone knows Trump is a clown. Even most of the people supporting Trump in the polls know he's a clown.
But better a clown than a backstabbing loser is what they're thinking.
I've never thought, despite all the shrieks of terror from pundits, Trump had a shot at being the nominee or that he would actually blacken the party name since most people don't bother to conflate Trump with anyone but Trump.
So the fact that he's beclowning himself now is, well, to be expected.
But better a clown than a backstabbing loser is what they're thinking.
I've never thought, despite all the shrieks of terror from pundits, Trump had a shot at being the nominee or that he would actually blacken the party name since most people don't bother to conflate Trump with anyone but Trump.
So the fact that he's beclowning himself now is, well, to be expected.
Posted by: Austin in TX at July 20, 2015 01:59 PM (FCyvO)
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Hey, my complaining worked. I didn't really mean that about the Ace of Clubs, Mr. Spades.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 20, 2015 01:59 PM (hk5Mp)
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That isn't an answer any actual Christian would give. Wow.
Posted by: RD Walker at July 20, 2015 01:59 PM (ImpgP)
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Having a hard time caring. I really am.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:00 PM (2Ojst)
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Maybe a web site he was a member of got hacked?
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:00 PM (sWgE+)
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So, in other words he's another Bill Maher that doesn't like McCain?
Posted by: Hank at July 20, 2015 02:00 PM (hA1uV)
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Some people like Trump because he is a bull in a China shop. Trump smash.
Thing about bulls, they are indiscriminate in the China shop. They break the pieces you like, too.
Thing about bulls, they are indiscriminate in the China shop. They break the pieces you like, too.
Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2015 02:00 PM (2Ocf1)
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I'd respect him more for telling the truth than mouthing pieties. I'd be fully OK with him saying something like, "I'm not a very religious guy. I mean, I believe in God, and I hold Christian values, but I'm not a regular church goer. But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (Q2akM)
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This is a pretty major dcik-stepping for him, IMHO.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (/Ho8c)
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Remember when Obama said that sin is, "Being out of alignment with my values."
Yeah, it's like that.
Yeah, it's like that.
Posted by: RD Walker at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (ImpgP)
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How did this guy stay so rich? He comes across like an idiot that even a halfway intelligent businessman could fleece
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (BlCZ6)
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I don't think he really gives a damn about what people think of his answers. People will think what they want about him.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (sWgE+)
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As a born again Christian, my sole qualifier for elected office is if the person has demonstrated that they will uphold and defend the Constitution. I doubt anyone that's been elected POTUS during my lifetime shares my particular religious beliefs, but that's not why they've been either good or bad. We're not electing a savior.
Posted by: RLTW at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (mJLvJ)
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Presbyterian who "eats the little cracker and drinks the little wine"?
I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
Presbyterian who "eats the little cracker and drinks the little wine"?
I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (JtwS4)
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At least he's flaming out early
Posted by: brak at July 20, 2015 01:56 PM (Tj+s6)
But not early enough for "sore-loser" laws to stop him form getting on ballots as an Independent.
At least he's flaming out early
Posted by: brak at July 20, 2015 01:56 PM (Tj+s6)
But not early enough for "sore-loser" laws to stop him form getting on ballots as an Independent.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (UypUQ)
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This wouldn't be significant really - I mean he's a politician and big time businessman, so he thinks he's god, obviously - but he keeps insisting he's a church going Christian recently.
If there's one consistent, absolutely, regular pattern in a Christian's life... its asking forgiveness of an absurdly patient God.
If there's one consistent, absolutely, regular pattern in a Christian's life... its asking forgiveness of an absurdly patient God.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (39g3+)
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Presbyterian who "eats the little cracker and drinks the little wine"?
I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (JtwS4)
Most protestant denominations observe communion, but they don't necessarily make it part of every service.
Presbyterian who "eats the little cracker and drinks the little wine"?
I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (JtwS4)
Most protestant denominations observe communion, but they don't necessarily make it part of every service.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (2Ojst)
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Trump: I've Never Asked God for Forgiveness
I have.
When little, I used to pray and ask God for a bike. Then I figured out He didn't work that way.
So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.
I have.
When little, I used to pray and ask God for a bike. Then I figured out He didn't work that way.
So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (qBbz7)
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22 Trump: I've Never Asked God for Forgiveness
I have.
When little, I used to pray and ask God for a bike. Then I figured out He didn't work that way.
So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (qBbz7)
Pray in one hand and crap in the other...
I have.
When little, I used to pray and ask God for a bike. Then I figured out He didn't work that way.
So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (qBbz7)
Pray in one hand and crap in the other...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:03 PM (2Ojst)
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This too shall pass.
Trump is ahead in the poles for one simple reason, he's channeling the anger many people feel about the GOP.
Hey the SCOTUS just gave its imprimatur on driving Christian faith underground but hey let's just drive Trump out so we can go back to talking about...
Well what exactly were the GOP candidates taking about before Trump opened up a can of whoop ass?
Oh that's right, they were talking about precisely nothing.
Trump is ahead in the poles for one simple reason, he's channeling the anger many people feel about the GOP.
Hey the SCOTUS just gave its imprimatur on driving Christian faith underground but hey let's just drive Trump out so we can go back to talking about...
Well what exactly were the GOP candidates taking about before Trump opened up a can of whoop ass?
Oh that's right, they were talking about precisely nothing.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 02:03 PM (97FRK)
Posted by: Hank at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (hA1uV)
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>>I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
Attended one most of my childhood and my church never did either.
Attended one most of my childhood and my church never did either.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (OGm46)
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It should tell you something about the zeitgeist of 2015 America that everyone flipped out about Trump's slam of McCain (including liberals who previously said far far worse things about McCain in 200
, but it went quietly unremarked when Trump earlier said that Oprah Winfrey would make an excellent vice president.
An obese airheaded television hostess a heartbeat away from the Oval Office? Why, sure! Nothing at all wrong with that suggestion.
Can't wait for Oprahnomics. Detroit's in trouble again?
"EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!!! EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!!!"
, but it went quietly unremarked when Trump earlier said that Oprah Winfrey would make an excellent vice president.An obese airheaded television hostess a heartbeat away from the Oval Office? Why, sure! Nothing at all wrong with that suggestion.
Can't wait for Oprahnomics. Detroit's in trouble again?
"EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!!! EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!!!"
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (noWW6)
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I like his honesty. His answers, even about McCain (which McCain deserves, btw) are his opinions. He's not pandering to any particular group.
IOW. He's at least honest about how he sees things. All of us may not agree with him, but I'm finding this very refreshing from the "politics as usual".
IOW. He's at least honest about how he sees things. All of us may not agree with him, but I'm finding this very refreshing from the "politics as usual".
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (P25Hh)
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You have not asked me either, gringo.
Posted by: "Shorty" Guzman at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (hk5Mp)
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I attended Presbyterian church in my teens and I don't remember communion being a thing.
It varies a lot. Some have communion every week. Some once a year or so. There's a lot of range in Presbyterian churches. Some aren't really even churches at all, just political gathering points with ethical tips that mentions God once in a while. Some are very, very orthodox and theologically conservative.
It varies a lot. Some have communion every week. Some once a year or so. There's a lot of range in Presbyterian churches. Some aren't really even churches at all, just political gathering points with ethical tips that mentions God once in a while. Some are very, very orthodox and theologically conservative.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (39g3+)
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He's overcompensating drastically for SOMETHING, I don't know what. That's why his mouth is always several paces ahead of his brain -- he's just got to say something just so people know he's there.
I hate this "compensation" theory. I've known a couple of near world class athletes in my life. Both were extremely confident. Compensation theory would say their level of confidence and devotion to their sports means they were missing something else in their life.
Nope. Not really. They were also really smart, good people who excelled at everything they tried.
Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for." When in reality they may be at complete peace with that flaw.
I hate this "compensation" theory. I've known a couple of near world class athletes in my life. Both were extremely confident. Compensation theory would say their level of confidence and devotion to their sports means they were missing something else in their life.
Nope. Not really. They were also really smart, good people who excelled at everything they tried.
Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for." When in reality they may be at complete peace with that flaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Dang at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (2oWD2)
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It varies a lot. Some have communion every week. Some once a year or so. There's a lot of range in Presbyterian churches. Some aren't really even churches at all, just political gathering points with ethical tips that mentions God once in a while. Some are very, very orthodox and theologically conservative.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (39g3+)
PCUSA is basically a liberal social club. PCA and OPC are still pretty conservative.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:04 PM (39g3+)
PCUSA is basically a liberal social club. PCA and OPC are still pretty conservative.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (2Ojst)
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Hey remember how people were praising Romney for his religious convictions? Yea, I don't either.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (sWgE+)
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How did this guy stay so rich? He comes across like an idiot that even a halfway intelligent businessman could fleece
I think he's really gifted at negotiations and self promotion. And that can go a really, really long ways in business.
I think he's really gifted at negotiations and self promotion. And that can go a really, really long ways in business.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (39g3+)
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15 How did this guy stay so rich? He comes across like an idiot that even a halfway intelligent businessman could fleece
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (BlCZ6)
The one I hear is that he's a really, really good negotiator/schmoozer who can talk people into giving him money. I guess he's better at getting cash than at keeping it.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (BlCZ6)
The one I hear is that he's a really, really good negotiator/schmoozer who can talk people into giving him money. I guess he's better at getting cash than at keeping it.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Kirk at July 20, 2015 02:06 PM (GBnWt)
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I'd respect him more for telling the truth than mouthing pieties. I'd be fully OK with him saying something like, "I'm not a very religious guy. I mean, I believe in God, and I hold Christian values, but I'm not a regular church goer. But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"
Posted by: Farmer Joe
This.
I still have no clear idea why he's running. Then again, we still have no idea why he flirted with the idea in 2012.
Posted by: Farmer Joe
This.
I still have no clear idea why he's running. Then again, we still have no idea why he flirted with the idea in 2012.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:06 PM (Spluw)
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How did this guy stay so rich? He comes across like an idiot that even a halfway intelligent businessman could fleece
I think he's really gifted at negotiations and self promotion. And that can go a really, really long ways in business.
That, and he structures his businesses as corporations, so if they fail, he doesn't.
I think he's really gifted at negotiations and self promotion. And that can go a really, really long ways in business.
That, and he structures his businesses as corporations, so if they fail, he doesn't.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (qBbz7)
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The "Let's not be tribal" argument smells too much like "You don't be tribal, but we'll continue to be just as tribal as we want." One day we're getting lectured on how one group's tribal markers scare off another group. The next day it's we shouldn't be tribal.
Posted by: WOPR at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (sWgE+)
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This might matter a bit. On the other hand, I can't see Christians racing to vote for Hillary if Trump ended up being the nominee.
For the record - I don't think Trump will be the nominee. That spot is reserved for Jeb.
For the record - I don't think Trump will be the nominee. That spot is reserved for Jeb.
Posted by: Old Hob at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (Z+7WE)
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Certain things about certain people, actually everybody probably, can get them to say stupid things. With Trump and obama it is overly large egos, they can't handle criticism, which is pretty bad for a politician, unless you have a whole Liberal Industrial Complex (LIC) on your side.
Certain things about certain people, actually everybody probably, can get them to say stupid things. With Trump and obama it is overly large egos, they can't handle criticism, which is pretty bad for a politician, unless you have a whole Liberal Industrial Complex (LIC) on your side.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:07 PM (ogYsy)
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Trump is for Trump. He doesn't care about anything else.
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 02:08 PM (GpgJl)
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Every single presidential candidate in the history of the USA except the really loony fringe ones has claimed to be a Christian. Even Thomas Jefferson, who was plainly a deist non-Christian, claimed to be one. Its the biggest lie of politics. Its pretty obvious several of them have not been, particularly the latest crop of Democrats. But they still make the noises, like it even matters any more.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (39g3+)
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For the record - I don't think Trump will be the nominee. That spot is reserved for Jeb.
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If that's true, I'll be sitting out the election, or voting Libertarian.
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If that's true, I'll be sitting out the election, or voting Libertarian.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Q2akM)
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He keeps declaring bankruptcy and letting his investors eat it.
Like 90% of the Forbes 500.
Yep. I kind of like the fact that most of the Fortune 500 people have been bankrupt at some point. It proves the leftist line "They're only rich because they inherited the money." is a lie.
Like 90% of the Forbes 500.
Yep. I kind of like the fact that most of the Fortune 500 people have been bankrupt at some point. It proves the leftist line "They're only rich because they inherited the money." is a lie.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (jhqr1)
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I really don't mind the wrecking balls that are Bernie and Trump.
Our government is a clownshow. One, giant, indebted, corrupt clownshow. To perpetuate the illusion that things will be OK if we just keep doing what we've been doing for the past 100 years is insanity. A giant freaking wrench in the system/status quo is pretty much a necessity.
I simply do not care about the histrionics of the media and political classes (BIRM) about anything. The have no credibility. I'm not about to be offended by anything they expose of Trump. Simply do. not. care.
Trump may be a wrecking ball (if he actually is that), but he's my wrecking ball. If he even just sabotages the GOPe, he'll have served a useful purpose just like Sanders would to the DNC.
Our government is a clownshow. One, giant, indebted, corrupt clownshow. To perpetuate the illusion that things will be OK if we just keep doing what we've been doing for the past 100 years is insanity. A giant freaking wrench in the system/status quo is pretty much a necessity.
I simply do not care about the histrionics of the media and political classes (BIRM) about anything. The have no credibility. I'm not about to be offended by anything they expose of Trump. Simply do. not. care.
Trump may be a wrecking ball (if he actually is that), but he's my wrecking ball. If he even just sabotages the GOPe, he'll have served a useful purpose just like Sanders would to the DNC.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (1CroS)
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"He keeps declaring bankruptcy and letting his investors eat it."
As distinct from, say, Government Motors, who declare bankruptcy and then let the public eat it.
I dislike Trump greatly, but at least his defrauded creditors had a say in whether or not they were going to board the ride. Caveat investor.
As distinct from, say, Government Motors, who declare bankruptcy and then let the public eat it.
I dislike Trump greatly, but at least his defrauded creditors had a say in whether or not they were going to board the ride. Caveat investor.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (noWW6)
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If that's true, I'll be sitting out the election, or voting Libertarian.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Q2akM)
I'm going to vote Hot Librarian.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Q2akM)
I'm going to vote Hot Librarian.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (2Ojst)
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PCUSA is basically a liberal social club. PCA and OPC are still pretty conservative.
Heh. So I looked up mine and it's PCUSA.
Otoh, it's very pretty, which is something I like in a church:
http://bit.ly/1MDBaNd
PCUSA is basically a liberal social club. PCA and OPC are still pretty conservative.
Heh. So I looked up mine and it's PCUSA.
Otoh, it's very pretty, which is something I like in a church:
http://bit.ly/1MDBaNd
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (JtwS4)
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I like his honesty. His answers, even about McCain (which McCain deserves, btw) are
he's honest? Us insider baseball types wonder why a competant business man like him would venture out unprepared. he can afford experts on policy and conducting campaigns. basic, coherent responses should be at hand.
He wouldn't walk into a boardroom like this. So why is he doing this? Is he that scattered, or hit/miss? Is it because such answers get more media play?
he's honest? Us insider baseball types wonder why a competant business man like him would venture out unprepared. he can afford experts on policy and conducting campaigns. basic, coherent responses should be at hand.
He wouldn't walk into a boardroom like this. So why is he doing this? Is he that scattered, or hit/miss? Is it because such answers get more media play?
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Spluw)
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I'm still chewing this over.
On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
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That's not the point. The point is that he is an arrogant MFer. He clearly has no humility of any sort, and that is a major problem. We already have that now.
I wish this doofus knew how to just keep beating the illegal immigration drum, and would keep his mouth shut on everything. Now he's ruined it all. We will not be having the immigration we so sorely need this election because this imbecile apparently is incapable of self regulating his mouth and brain.
On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
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That's not the point. The point is that he is an arrogant MFer. He clearly has no humility of any sort, and that is a major problem. We already have that now.
I wish this doofus knew how to just keep beating the illegal immigration drum, and would keep his mouth shut on everything. Now he's ruined it all. We will not be having the immigration we so sorely need this election because this imbecile apparently is incapable of self regulating his mouth and brain.
Posted by: NotCoach at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (rsudF)
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>>I think it's pretty obvious he's an irreligious guy who barely even knows the lingo he's supposed to say in projecting the image of a religious guy. (He does claim to be religious -- but not plausibly.)
After 6 years of Obama peddling his fake Christianity bit - all of that damn "brother's keeper" crap every holiday like Jesus was a SJW/Communist, I could not care less about Trump's clumsy attempts.
Really, so tired of the fakey fake religion talk from most politicians - you're not fooling anyone so just stop.
After 6 years of Obama peddling his fake Christianity bit - all of that damn "brother's keeper" crap every holiday like Jesus was a SJW/Communist, I could not care less about Trump's clumsy attempts.
Really, so tired of the fakey fake religion talk from most politicians - you're not fooling anyone so just stop.
Posted by: Picnic Table at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (NOIQH)
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He's referencing Norman Vincent Peale? Um, that does sort of sound right... He does display a warped internalised view of his Power of Positive Thinking.
Posted by: Phil at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (39FGM)
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Trump is for Trump. He doesn't care about anything else.
And Cruz is for Cruz, Walker is for Walker etc, etc, etc....
And Cruz is for Cruz, Walker is for Walker etc, etc, etc....
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (sWgE+)
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Fredo Trump
Posted by: Garrett at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (u8PjN)
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46 years ago we put a man on the Moon. Immediately concurrent with this event, the descent began, with John Kennedy's idiot little brother killing a girl and the press and The Law covering it up.
Today we are Here.
46 years ago we put a man on the Moon. Immediately concurrent with this event, the descent began, with John Kennedy's idiot little brother killing a girl and the press and The Law covering it up.
Today we are Here.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (ogYsy)
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Yargh! Off sock.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:10 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:11 PM (39g3+)
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If that's true, I'll be sitting out the election, or voting Libertarian.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Q2akM)
H8r. You just don't like him because he's a trans-Hispanic.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Q2akM)
H8r. You just don't like him because he's a trans-Hispanic.
Posted by: Old Hob at July 20, 2015 02:11 PM (Z+7WE)
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I'm going to vote Hot Librarian.
Posted by: Insomniac
I voted Hot Librarian in 2008, but Sarah lost.
Posted by: Insomniac
I voted Hot Librarian in 2008, but Sarah lost.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 02:11 PM (/Ho8c)
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32 He's overcompensating drastically for SOMETHING, I don't know what. That's why his mouth is always several paces ahead of his brain -- he's just got to say something just so people know he's there.
I hate this "compensation" theory. I've known a couple of near world class athletes in my life. Both were extremely confident. Compensation theory would say their level of confidence and devotion to their sports means they were missing something else in their life.
Nope. Not really. They were also really smart, good people who excelled at everything they tried.
Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for." When in reality they may be at complete peace with that flaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (jhqr1)
Think of it this way: An excellent athlete is confident because he's proved his ability and knows that he will likely be that able in the future. He's not talking smack, he's telling you what he knows about himself. Trump isn't doing that; Trump is just throwing stuff out there so people will focus on Trump. Self-confident people don't do that. People who desperately crave attention do.
I hate this "compensation" theory. I've known a couple of near world class athletes in my life. Both were extremely confident. Compensation theory would say their level of confidence and devotion to their sports means they were missing something else in their life.
Nope. Not really. They were also really smart, good people who excelled at everything they tried.
Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for." When in reality they may be at complete peace with that flaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:05 PM (jhqr1)
Think of it this way: An excellent athlete is confident because he's proved his ability and knows that he will likely be that able in the future. He's not talking smack, he's telling you what he knows about himself. Trump isn't doing that; Trump is just throwing stuff out there so people will focus on Trump. Self-confident people don't do that. People who desperately crave attention do.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:12 PM (RD7QR)
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A clown with his pants falling down
Or the dance that's a dream of romance
Or the scene where the villain is mean.
That's entertainment!
The lights on the lady in tights
Or he bride with the guy by her side
Or the ball where she gives it her all.
That's entertainment!
The plot can be hot, simply teeming with sex
A gay divorcee who is after her ex
It could be Oedipus Rex
Where a chap kills his father and causes lots of bother.
The clerk who is thrown out of work
By the boss who is thrown for a loss
By the skirt who is doing him dirt
The world is a stage;
the stage is a world of entertainment!
It might be a fight like you see on the screen
A swain getting slain for the love of a queen
Some great Shakespearean scene
Where a ghost and a prince meet, and everyone ends in mincemeat.
The guy who was waving the flag
That began with the mystical hand
Hip hooray! The American way
The world is a stage;
the stage is a world of entertainment!
Or the dance that's a dream of romance
Or the scene where the villain is mean.
That's entertainment!
The lights on the lady in tights
Or he bride with the guy by her side
Or the ball where she gives it her all.
That's entertainment!
The plot can be hot, simply teeming with sex
A gay divorcee who is after her ex
It could be Oedipus Rex
Where a chap kills his father and causes lots of bother.
The clerk who is thrown out of work
By the boss who is thrown for a loss
By the skirt who is doing him dirt
The world is a stage;
the stage is a world of entertainment!
It might be a fight like you see on the screen
A swain getting slain for the love of a queen
Some great Shakespearean scene
Where a ghost and a prince meet, and everyone ends in mincemeat.
The guy who was waving the flag
That began with the mystical hand
Hip hooray! The American way
The world is a stage;
the stage is a world of entertainment!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:12 PM (x3GpS)
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The more I see of Trump, the more I have toask myself why the GOPe isnt in love with him. They seem tohave so much in common.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at July 20, 2015 02:12 PM (FnHaG)
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Two weeks until 10th anniversary of Katrina.
Two weeks until 10th anniversary of Katrina.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:12 PM (ogYsy)
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Nothing in his remarks bothered me on the religion side. He's being honest.
I've never asked God for forgiveness outright. Unless you count confession. "Bless me Father for I have sinned..." I suppose it matters how you've lived your life.
What a weird "controversy."
I think the McCain thing was harsh. Trump showed his mean side. His arrogant attack side. As much as I dislike McCain, he made a mistake there, no matter who he was attacking.
Nothing in his remarks bothered me on the religion side. He's being honest.
I've never asked God for forgiveness outright. Unless you count confession. "Bless me Father for I have sinned..." I suppose it matters how you've lived your life.
What a weird "controversy."
I think the McCain thing was harsh. Trump showed his mean side. His arrogant attack side. As much as I dislike McCain, he made a mistake there, no matter who he was attacking.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 02:13 PM (qCMvj)
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Trump: I've Never Asked God for Forgiveness
God: It's true. He asks his creditors for forgiveness all the time; me, not once.
God: It's true. He asks his creditors for forgiveness all the time; me, not once.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:13 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:13 PM (sWgE+)
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I have never heard a single person in the course of my life say:
"He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
Now, I have heard stuff like "I couldn't vote for a Mormon" which is very different.
So, I'm not getting a heavy tribal vibe here.
Trump is clearly a Sunday Presby, if that, which is fine.
"He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
Now, I have heard stuff like "I couldn't vote for a Mormon" which is very different.
So, I'm not getting a heavy tribal vibe here.
Trump is clearly a Sunday Presby, if that, which is fine.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 02:13 PM (0cMkb)
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Ace, I love you, man. I really do.
But you're not helping things by talking about The Donald all the time - you're just feeding his ego just as much as every MFM outlet out there. This is exactly what he wants.
You're buying what he's selling - himself. You are better than this, man.
But you're not helping things by talking about The Donald all the time - you're just feeding his ego just as much as every MFM outlet out there. This is exactly what he wants.
You're buying what he's selling - himself. You are better than this, man.
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (LGFTn)
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One of the criticisms of Herb Cain four years ago is that he had a number of answers that were in the step-on-your-own-d*ck variety.
You could say that was a disqualifier, or that it was part of his value as an outsider, a non-polished terd, if you will. Or both.
Anyone who is seriously considering support Trump as a candidate has to know Trump is going to be offering up some smelly ones between now and then. You're either ok with that, or you aren't.
You could say that was a disqualifier, or that it was part of his value as an outsider, a non-polished terd, if you will. Or both.
Anyone who is seriously considering support Trump as a candidate has to know Trump is going to be offering up some smelly ones between now and then. You're either ok with that, or you aren't.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (TOk1P)
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Is he still pissing off the right people?
Good.
The only people who think Trump is a Republican is Trump and Democrats.
That said, he would be a great President for one simple reason: Everyone (in power) hates him and both parties would work together to gut all the excesses and power-grabs out from the executive that have been taken over the last 70 years.
EO's? Dead.
Rubber-stamp of appointments? Gone forever.
Selective enforcement? Over.
State of the Union? Discarded relic.
Signing statements? Illegal.
That alone would be worth every penny.
Good.
The only people who think Trump is a Republican is Trump and Democrats.
That said, he would be a great President for one simple reason: Everyone (in power) hates him and both parties would work together to gut all the excesses and power-grabs out from the executive that have been taken over the last 70 years.
EO's? Dead.
Rubber-stamp of appointments? Gone forever.
Selective enforcement? Over.
State of the Union? Discarded relic.
Signing statements? Illegal.
That alone would be worth every penny.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (ZvKdv)
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I'm a really strong Christian. I read the Bible regularly, I teach Sunday School for adults, I go to church regularly, etc. This is my life.
And honestly, this doesn't concern me much. I don't think he's a Christian, but if he is, that's between him and God. Frankly I doubt many politicians ever ask forgiveness for anything. It takes a colossal level of arrogance and self-focus to want to run for president to begin with. This doesn't really set Trump apart at all to me. Of course he doesn't ask forgiveness from God. He probably thinks he has nothing to be forgiven of. I doubt Cruz, Clinton, Sanders, Jindal or the rest ever have either.
The only politician I've ever seen in my life that seemed to be genuinely humble, for all his other faults, is President George Bush the younger.
And honestly, this doesn't concern me much. I don't think he's a Christian, but if he is, that's between him and God. Frankly I doubt many politicians ever ask forgiveness for anything. It takes a colossal level of arrogance and self-focus to want to run for president to begin with. This doesn't really set Trump apart at all to me. Of course he doesn't ask forgiveness from God. He probably thinks he has nothing to be forgiven of. I doubt Cruz, Clinton, Sanders, Jindal or the rest ever have either.
The only politician I've ever seen in my life that seemed to be genuinely humble, for all his other faults, is President George Bush the younger.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ramon from Texas at July 20, 2015 02:15 PM (hRytD)
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Did he do this from the pupit of a blck church like Dems regularly do?
Hillary's infamous "Ah ain't no ways tard"
Hillary's infamous "Ah ain't no ways tard"
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:15 PM (NOIQH)
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I think the McCain thing was harsh.
You think that was harsh? Read some of the stuff from his dust up with Rosie O'Donnell. Nasty
You think that was harsh? Read some of the stuff from his dust up with Rosie O'Donnell. Nasty
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:15 PM (sWgE+)
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I appreciate his honesty.
If anything it is to his credit because it shows he isn't a typical politician like hillary, who evades everything, or obama, who only talks on teleprompter and has his minions destroy anyone who thinks differently.
If anything it is to his credit because it shows he isn't a typical politician like hillary, who evades everything, or obama, who only talks on teleprompter and has his minions destroy anyone who thinks differently.
Posted by: Village Idiot at July 20, 2015 02:15 PM (bf86X)
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Take a deep breath.
There is zero and by that I mean (0) chance we will have Donald Trump as the next president.
If Ronald Reagan were re incarnated and actually won the Republican nomination (note the establishment would be agin him just like they were back in the day). Ronald Regan, with is track record of having turned around a fiscally dead state, but no foreign policy experience to speak of an in general being an "actor" would have less than 50% chance of winning in 2016.
The country is dumb, too many conservatives have died or don't vote and the "turn out" numbers of democrats are always, ironically, just good enough to win.
Donald Trump is, sadly, a less amusingSideshow Bob. He pretends to the office, but it won't happen. He will defeat himself.
Take a deep breath.
There is zero and by that I mean (0) chance we will have Donald Trump as the next president.
If Ronald Reagan were re incarnated and actually won the Republican nomination (note the establishment would be agin him just like they were back in the day). Ronald Regan, with is track record of having turned around a fiscally dead state, but no foreign policy experience to speak of an in general being an "actor" would have less than 50% chance of winning in 2016.
The country is dumb, too many conservatives have died or don't vote and the "turn out" numbers of democrats are always, ironically, just good enough to win.
Donald Trump is, sadly, a less amusingSideshow Bob. He pretends to the office, but it won't happen. He will defeat himself.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 02:15 PM (5vV+V)
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Is the total fixation of everybody on Trump simply going to serve the desires of the people who are desperately looking for something to disqualify him with?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (oVJmc)
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I didn't realize that someone's religion was a prerequisite to become President of the United States.
I'd rather have someone in there, that would straighten this Country out, than some religious nutball, like Rick Perry or Ted Cruz.
Sorry, But this subject tends to get my guff.
I'd rather have someone in there, that would straighten this Country out, than some religious nutball, like Rick Perry or Ted Cruz.
Sorry, But this subject tends to get my guff.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (cudF1)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (VAsIq)
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I have never heard a single person in the course of my life say: "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him." Now, I have heard stuff like "I couldn't vote for a Mormon" which is very different. So, I'm not getting a heavy tribal vibe here. Trump is clearly a Sunday Presby, if that, which is fine.
Posted by: naturalfake
Guess what I've heard over the years. Go on; it's easy.
Posted by: naturalfake
Guess what I've heard over the years. Go on; it's easy.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (Spluw)
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You're buying what he's selling - himself. You are better than this, man.
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (LGFTn)
Yeah, Ace. Come on, man!
Also, have you considered the merits of taking another look at Jeb? He's really not so bad, after all. You'll learn to love him. Swearsies! The Gope is calling, Ace. Will you not heed that call?
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (LGFTn)
Yeah, Ace. Come on, man!
Also, have you considered the merits of taking another look at Jeb? He's really not so bad, after all. You'll learn to love him. Swearsies! The Gope is calling, Ace. Will you not heed that call?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Knemon at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (2zl5Y)
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>>EO's? Dead.
What in Trump's background or personality would make you think EOs would be gone? I would think just the opposite.
Ego's that big don't usually play well with others and Trump's ego is uuuuuuuge.
What in Trump's background or personality would make you think EOs would be gone? I would think just the opposite.
Ego's that big don't usually play well with others and Trump's ego is uuuuuuuge.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (OGm46)
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83 I didn't realize that someone's religion was a prerequisite to become President of the United States.
I'd rather have someone in there, that would straighten this Country out, than some religious nutball, like Rick Perry or Ted Cruz.
Sorry, But this subject tends to get my guff.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (cudF1)
You sound concerned.
I'd rather have someone in there, that would straighten this Country out, than some religious nutball, like Rick Perry or Ted Cruz.
Sorry, But this subject tends to get my guff.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (cudF1)
You sound concerned.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (RD7QR)
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he's honest? Us insider baseball types wonder why a competant business man like him would venture out unprepared. he can afford experts on policy and conducting campaigns. basic, coherent responses should be at hand. He wouldn't walk into a boardroom like this. So why is he doing this? Is he that scattered, or hit/miss? Is it because such answers get more media play?
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Spluw)
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Look around at the state of our nation right now. THIS is what all those "smart" experts on policy have given us. I say, fuck the experts. I want someone who doesn't hate this country or it's free enterprise ways.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:09 PM (Spluw)
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Look around at the state of our nation right now. THIS is what all those "smart" experts on policy have given us. I say, fuck the experts. I want someone who doesn't hate this country or it's free enterprise ways.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (P25Hh)
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I don't like Trump at all, however, it's hard to deny the genius.
The man opens his candidacy with immigration, saying what most people, democrats included, think but are afraid to say.
Then, when attacked by McCain, he realizes there is no downside at all counter attacking a man who is universally hated by everyone except the press.
Then, to put a cherry on top, the idiot Perry puts his glasses on and jumps in on the side of McCain in a desperate attempt to get on the debate platform.
So now, Trump, a person who shouldn't be getting 1% in the polls is the leader.
If this keeps going, Trump will end up Emperor.
The man opens his candidacy with immigration, saying what most people, democrats included, think but are afraid to say.
Then, when attacked by McCain, he realizes there is no downside at all counter attacking a man who is universally hated by everyone except the press.
Then, to put a cherry on top, the idiot Perry puts his glasses on and jumps in on the side of McCain in a desperate attempt to get on the debate platform.
So now, Trump, a person who shouldn't be getting 1% in the polls is the leader.
If this keeps going, Trump will end up Emperor.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (P/xrJ)
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Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for." When in reality they may be at complete peace with that flaw.
Yeah, like all pop psych its easily repeated nonsense based on shreds of some truth for a small group of isolated people projected on everyone. Pop psychology gives jealousy an easy voice.
Yeah, like all pop psych its easily repeated nonsense based on shreds of some truth for a small group of isolated people projected on everyone. Pop psychology gives jealousy an easy voice.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)
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My only beef with this is his whole dismissal of a pretty important part of the religious beliefs of a significant population in this country. Referring to Communion as "the little wine and the little cracker" is pretty demeaning. Maybe I'm just getting my SJW jacket on.
Then again, as stated many times before, Trump is a clown and a wrecking ball, so my rage meter doesn't really move much.
I'd respect him more for telling the truth than mouthing pieties. I'd be fully OK with him saying something like, "I'm not a very religious guy. I mean, I believe in God, and I hold Christian values, but I'm not a regular church goer. But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (Q2akM)
^^This would've been a much better answer, without denigrating a lot of believers.
Then again, as stated many times before, Trump is a clown and a wrecking ball, so my rage meter doesn't really move much.
I'd respect him more for telling the truth than mouthing pieties. I'd be fully OK with him saying something like, "I'm not a very religious guy. I mean, I believe in God, and I hold Christian values, but I'm not a regular church goer. But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:01 PM (Q2akM)
^^This would've been a much better answer, without denigrating a lot of believers.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (4CBaM)
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Did he quit yet?
Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (JrKKc)
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I have seen blogs where there is utter bewilderment that evangelicals' support for Trump has been going up and up. Well, from an evangelical point of view: We vote for who we think would be best for the job, we don't vote identity politics like the GOPe thinks we do.
We don't nominate a Latino assuming they will pick up the Latino vote because of identity, we don't support Palin because we assume she'll pick up the female vote, we don't support a candidate because they are evangelical or not.
Trump is the non-politician running for the nomination exactly when we think the political class has utterly destroyed our country.....who cares what he believes as long as he is not a member of the political class. I assume Trump is going to do what is good for Trump. And since I know he likes to run a tight ship and make money, I can safely assume he is more of a free-market capitalist than any politician out there. That might be a little bit better than any other GOPe nominee who I have to assume is going to do what is best for the GOPe, wanting to consolidate the big power of government into their own hands, rather than free us from it.
We don't nominate a Latino assuming they will pick up the Latino vote because of identity, we don't support Palin because we assume she'll pick up the female vote, we don't support a candidate because they are evangelical or not.
Trump is the non-politician running for the nomination exactly when we think the political class has utterly destroyed our country.....who cares what he believes as long as he is not a member of the political class. I assume Trump is going to do what is good for Trump. And since I know he likes to run a tight ship and make money, I can safely assume he is more of a free-market capitalist than any politician out there. That might be a little bit better than any other GOPe nominee who I have to assume is going to do what is best for the GOPe, wanting to consolidate the big power of government into their own hands, rather than free us from it.
Posted by: doug at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (IYEs/)
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So who is this deeply thoughtful, Christian, well-spoken, self-funded, popular conservative Presidential candidate who is so consistent on immigration, the Constitution and reversing America's decline into socialism that everyone seems to be comparing Trump to?
Hoping you guys are seeing someone that I am not.
Hoping you guys are seeing someone that I am not.
Posted by: some random meathead - just sayin' at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (+70b8)
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It's a better answer than the pious horseshit Jeb, Rubio, or Walker would have given us.
Posted by: Richard Dawkins at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (83IN3)
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Shit I can't work.
Does anyone see Luntz here. How many other candidates were asked about their faith? Luntz seems to be an agitator of sorts.
Yes, Trump could have been more polished in both answers.
But isn't Trump describing what most folks in the US do anyway. Not super serious about their faith.
He has strongly come out in favor of bringing Christian, not Muslim, refugees into America.
Right there, that's good by me. I haven't heard anything from Trump that causes me concern on this front other than, unlike most evangelicals/catholics, he really hasn't thought on religion that much, like most americans frankly.
Does anyone see Luntz here. How many other candidates were asked about their faith? Luntz seems to be an agitator of sorts.
Yes, Trump could have been more polished in both answers.
But isn't Trump describing what most folks in the US do anyway. Not super serious about their faith.
He has strongly come out in favor of bringing Christian, not Muslim, refugees into America.
Right there, that's good by me. I haven't heard anything from Trump that causes me concern on this front other than, unlike most evangelicals/catholics, he really hasn't thought on religion that much, like most americans frankly.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (q5APL)
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I'll come to town for you
Dress up like a clown for you
Pull my pants on down for you
Them I'll crawl away
I will blow hot fart on you
I will build an R2D2
I won't even start for you
Unless you fucking pay
Dress up like a clown for you
Pull my pants on down for you
Them I'll crawl away
I will blow hot fart on you
I will build an R2D2
I won't even start for you
Unless you fucking pay
Posted by: GWAR at July 20, 2015 02:18 PM (u8PjN)
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"steps on to a bunch of rakes of his own making"
From the classic "Stepping on to a Bunch of Rakes on a Snowy Evening."
From the classic "Stepping on to a Bunch of Rakes on a Snowy Evening."
Posted by: m at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (ew6hg)
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Gawker is experiencing secondary explosions. Drive it into the ground until it is dead. Take fucking Jezebeel down with it.
Posted by: The Governor at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (wzvkj)
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I would think the MFM would lay off him because they want him to be the candidate because he has no chance in the general, but he torched one of their sacred cows; open border immigration.
I would think the MFM would lay off him because they want him to be the candidate because he has no chance in the general, but he torched one of their sacred cows; open border immigration.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (ODxAs)
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Guess what I've heard over the years. Go on; it's easy.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (Spluw)
Thrill me.
What have you heard?
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (Spluw)
Thrill me.
What have you heard?
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (0cMkb)
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If he had a god, Trump's god would be yuge, gold plated, more prestigious, and much mightier than your puny wimp gods.
Posted by: california red at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (q6yxu)
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Pappy O'Daniel: "Is the total fixation of everybody on Trump simply going to serve the desires of the people who are desperately looking for something to disqualify him with?"
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Also yes.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Also yes.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (1CroS)
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>>I have seen blogs where there is utter bewilderment that evangelicals' support for Trump has been going up and up. Well, from an evangelical point of view: We vote for who we think would be best for the job, we don't vote identity politics like the GOPe thinks we do.
Mike Huckabee disagrees.
Mike Huckabee disagrees.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (OGm46)
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Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:16 PM (cudF1)
What makes either of them religious nut balls?
What makes either of them religious nut balls?
Posted by: thathalfrican at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (R5HRU)
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Think of it this way: An excellent athlete is confident because he's proved his ability and knows that he will likely be that able in the future. He's not talking smack, he's telling you what he knows about himself. Trump isn't doing that; Trump is just throwing stuff out there so people will focus on Trump. Self-confident people don't do that. People who desperately crave attention do.
Fair enough. Though I would point out that Trump is probably worth in the range of $9 Billion. There aren't that many people on the planet who have amassed that sort of wealth. Some would say that's an accomplishment that deserves some braggadocio.
Fair enough. Though I would point out that Trump is probably worth in the range of $9 Billion. There aren't that many people on the planet who have amassed that sort of wealth. Some would say that's an accomplishment that deserves some braggadocio.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (jhqr1)
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Everyone's questioning whether Trump has the temperament to be President and not whether Hillary has the ethics to be President.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (oVJmc)
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I don't know where this is going. While I really appreciate him rattling the beast's cages, I would like to see something actually happen in 2016. I cannot imagine him escaping the traps that are being set for him.
Posted by: Will at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (GHb0U)
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I'm pretty religious and I'm really not bothered. He sounds like a once or twice a year catholic.A politician would have lied or changed the subject. He doesn't have that instinct which, at this point, I like. He also provides very unpolitic answers about how he balanced work and family, admitting he did a pretty poor job, but was happy with how his kids turned out. It's honest and straightforward, not poll tested garbage. If people are upset by that, they're mostly saying they'd rather be lied to.
I don't think he should be president, but I also don't think any of the others ought to be either. And in a battle of least-worst, I'll take the one that causes the establishment(s) the most heartburn. Or at least enjoy the show for as long as I can.
If this nation is going to be a circus, I'd prefer a clown prince.
I'm pretty religious and I'm really not bothered. He sounds like a once or twice a year catholic.A politician would have lied or changed the subject. He doesn't have that instinct which, at this point, I like. He also provides very unpolitic answers about how he balanced work and family, admitting he did a pretty poor job, but was happy with how his kids turned out. It's honest and straightforward, not poll tested garbage. If people are upset by that, they're mostly saying they'd rather be lied to.
I don't think he should be president, but I also don't think any of the others ought to be either. And in a battle of least-worst, I'll take the one that causes the establishment(s) the most heartburn. Or at least enjoy the show for as long as I can.
If this nation is going to be a circus, I'd prefer a clown prince.
Posted by: f2000 at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (5xwgn)
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On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
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Also the reason Huckabee is even a national name outside of "he let killers go free."
It is 100% "he is my tribe, good."
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Also the reason Huckabee is even a national name outside of "he let killers go free."
It is 100% "he is my tribe, good."
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (ZvKdv)
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To explain further; I am a Christian, for 34 years. I am a Independent Baptist. IFB, if you know what that means.
However......
I happen to believe in a separation of Church and State, just like Thomas Jefferson did.
That whole "God and Country" business of the 1980's was wrong-headed. It was actually scary actually. Thankfully, Reagan had enough sense to keep them at bay.
Just wanted to make myself a bit more clear.
However......
I happen to believe in a separation of Church and State, just like Thomas Jefferson did.
That whole "God and Country" business of the 1980's was wrong-headed. It was actually scary actually. Thankfully, Reagan had enough sense to keep them at bay.
Just wanted to make myself a bit more clear.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (cudF1)
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Transubstantiation is all in the mind folks.
It's an ALLEGORY. Communion is meant to be a physical cue for one's inner spirit to accept Christ's sacrifice within as yours. Opening one up to forgiveness of one's sin so as to allow God to let you into Heaven. This has to be done this way because of God's wording of the covenant and oath given to mankind.
Read the freaking book, Okay?
And for all you supposed atheists out there: it's a mystery enfolded in a conundrum to confuse the masses. Enabling manipulation and extra alms giving.
It's an ALLEGORY. Communion is meant to be a physical cue for one's inner spirit to accept Christ's sacrifice within as yours. Opening one up to forgiveness of one's sin so as to allow God to let you into Heaven. This has to be done this way because of God's wording of the covenant and oath given to mankind.
Read the freaking book, Okay?
And for all you supposed atheists out there: it's a mystery enfolded in a conundrum to confuse the masses. Enabling manipulation and extra alms giving.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (x3GpS)
115
Ha Ha Ha You've been Punked!!11!!
Posted by: Ashton Kutcher at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (81UWZ)
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Then, to put a cherry on top, the idiot Perry puts his glasses on and jumps in on the side of McCain in a desperate attempt to get on the debate platform.
Yep, Perry shot his foot off again.
Yep, Perry shot his foot off again.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:21 PM (sWgE+)
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The only politician I've ever seen in my life that
seemed to be genuinely humble, for all his other faults, is President
George Bush the younger.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Kurt Warner was at the Cardinals baseball game in St. Louis yesterday, with the plan for a Christian event afterwards, at which he was to be the guest speaker. The game went 18 innings, so I'm not sure how that turned out...
Anyhoo, Kurt was a guest in the broadcast booth during the game, and as I was listening to him speak I was thinking "man, this guy would do great if he ever decided to go into politics." My second thought was "gosh, what a heel I am to wish that on someone as decent as him."
Sorry, politics is just not a game for decent men.
seemed to be genuinely humble, for all his other faults, is President
George Bush the younger.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Kurt Warner was at the Cardinals baseball game in St. Louis yesterday, with the plan for a Christian event afterwards, at which he was to be the guest speaker. The game went 18 innings, so I'm not sure how that turned out...
Anyhoo, Kurt was a guest in the broadcast booth during the game, and as I was listening to him speak I was thinking "man, this guy would do great if he ever decided to go into politics." My second thought was "gosh, what a heel I am to wish that on someone as decent as him."
Sorry, politics is just not a game for decent men.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:21 PM (TOk1P)
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I'd rather have someone in there, that would straighten this Country out, than some religious nutball, like Rick Perry or Ted Cruz.
Bless your heart, you're really concerned aren't you?
What in Trump's background or personality would make you think EOs would be gone? I would think just the opposite.
I think like with Obama, a lot of people are projecting what they want to be true on to Trump because he's kicking the right targets in the mangerines.
Bless your heart, you're really concerned aren't you?
What in Trump's background or personality would make you think EOs would be gone? I would think just the opposite.
I think like with Obama, a lot of people are projecting what they want to be true on to Trump because he's kicking the right targets in the mangerines.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:21 PM (39g3+)
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And yet in Iowa they vote for Democrats all the time.
I'm a bit befuddled at the double standard in Iowa. Obama won the state with 52% of the vote. That's in the second election.
But, you know, the "Evangelical vote" rules or something.
It didn't seem to hurt Mr Gay Marriage, Abortion on Demand, Transgender Worshipper
I'm a bit befuddled at the double standard in Iowa. Obama won the state with 52% of the vote. That's in the second election.
But, you know, the "Evangelical vote" rules or something.
It didn't seem to hurt Mr Gay Marriage, Abortion on Demand, Transgender Worshipper
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:21 PM (GGCsk)
120
He says he's a Presbyterian and Norman Vincent Peale (of the Power of Positive Thinking fame) was his pastor.
But Peale was pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in NYC, which is an RCA (Reformed Church of America, formerly Reformed Protestant Dutch Church.
It's all bullshit. Trump just spews out whatever thought comes into his head.
He's not a leader, not a very good businessman, and not a particularly good salesman. He's just a professional bullshitter.
But Peale was pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in NYC, which is an RCA (Reformed Church of America, formerly Reformed Protestant Dutch Church.
It's all bullshit. Trump just spews out whatever thought comes into his head.
He's not a leader, not a very good businessman, and not a particularly good salesman. He's just a professional bullshitter.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 02:22 PM (laMCB)
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Some would say that's an accomplishment that deserves some braggadocio.
He's a New Yourker. Braggadocio comes with the zip code.
He's a New Yourker. Braggadocio comes with the zip code.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:23 PM (sWgE+)
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One reason I don't want Trump as President is because I think renaming the official living quarters of the President to Trump House would be tacky. Especially the neon sign.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 02:23 PM (B7Uun)
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Thomas Jefferson was not a Diest. He considered himself a Unitarian and publicly said that on a number of occasions. His enemies spread the rumor that he was a Diest or in some cases an atheist.
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 02:23 PM (GpgJl)
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If he had a god, Trump's god would be yuge, gold plated, more prestigious, and much mightier than your puny wimp gods.
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Reminds me of Peter Gabriel's "Big Time".
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Reminds me of Peter Gabriel's "Big Time".
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:24 PM (Q2akM)
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104 If he had a god, Trump's god would be yuge, gold plated, more prestigious, and much mightier than your puny wimp gods.
Posted by: california red at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (q6yxu)
And heaven would look like the Taj. (But just imagine the buffet...)
Posted by: california red at July 20, 2015 02:19 PM (q6yxu)
And heaven would look like the Taj. (But just imagine the buffet...)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:24 PM (RD7QR)
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Look around at the state of our nation right now. THIS is what all those "smart" experts on policy have given us. I say, fuck the experts. I want someone who doesn't hate this country or it's free enterprise ways.
Posted by: Soona
First, we have no way of knowing if Trump loves this country or free enterprise.
Second, I didn't ask for slick packaging. I noted that he wouldn't go into a business deal blindly lashing out.
And yet he did this. Other than setting himself aside from the PoS, what was gained here?
Why would he go into this making snide comments about a 'cracker'? The mantra "I'm spiritual, not religious" has been chic for years.
Posted by: Soona
First, we have no way of knowing if Trump loves this country or free enterprise.
Second, I didn't ask for slick packaging. I noted that he wouldn't go into a business deal blindly lashing out.
And yet he did this. Other than setting himself aside from the PoS, what was gained here?
Why would he go into this making snide comments about a 'cracker'? The mantra "I'm spiritual, not religious" has been chic for years.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (Spluw)
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Nobody cares what Trump's relationship is (if any) with God.
What they do care about is the contrast Trump makes with politicians.
Some years ago, the ice rink in Rockefeller Plaza was broken. As I remember, it sat for a couple of years while the city spent millions on studies and other shit.
Trump asked what was going on and took over.
It was fixed and running in a matter of weeks.
That's what people want from their government. If this story starts getting air time again, Trump will shoot up to astronomical levels.
In both parties.
What they do care about is the contrast Trump makes with politicians.
Some years ago, the ice rink in Rockefeller Plaza was broken. As I remember, it sat for a couple of years while the city spent millions on studies and other shit.
Trump asked what was going on and took over.
It was fixed and running in a matter of weeks.
That's what people want from their government. If this story starts getting air time again, Trump will shoot up to astronomical levels.
In both parties.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (P/xrJ)
Posted by: Yes at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (7u7u7)
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I understand that it will make some of you happy if Trump would go away.
But then what would you be left with?
I understand that it will make some of you happy if Trump would go away.
But then what would you be left with?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (ogYsy)
130
Though I would point out that Trump is probably worth in the range of $9 Billion.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (jhqr1)
Has anyone ever audited his books? That's probably bullshit, too.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (jhqr1)
Has anyone ever audited his books? That's probably bullshit, too.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (laMCB)
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Are we having a conversation about Donald Trump as if he is a serious candidate?
I am glad he's in the race, I like that he is forcing certain conversations, and I'm glad he's pissing off the GOP, but he very clearly does not have the temperament for this. Any conversation about Trump that doesn't take that as a given, is an odd conversation to me.
I am glad he's in the race, I like that he is forcing certain conversations, and I'm glad he's pissing off the GOP, but he very clearly does not have the temperament for this. Any conversation about Trump that doesn't take that as a given, is an odd conversation to me.
Posted by: Tommy V at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (NBoRH)
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So far this whole primary seems largely a series of slapfights between douchebags.
The RoyalOil Theory about Trump being the person who could (accidentally) rein in executive power is, perhaps, the first interesting thing I've seen about the Trump Comedy Candidacy.
As opposed to the Jeb Comedy Candidacy, which isn't even funny.
The MFM pretty clearly want the primary to come down to those two, trying to keep the rest out of the spotlight with racist slanders, racism slanders, or just back-paging them.
The Left, the MFM, and the Permanent Bureaucracy (BIRM) like to offer you an Obviously Bad choice and an I Guess I'll Accept That choice, and nothing else.
The RoyalOil Theory about Trump being the person who could (accidentally) rein in executive power is, perhaps, the first interesting thing I've seen about the Trump Comedy Candidacy.
As opposed to the Jeb Comedy Candidacy, which isn't even funny.
The MFM pretty clearly want the primary to come down to those two, trying to keep the rest out of the spotlight with racist slanders, racism slanders, or just back-paging them.
The Left, the MFM, and the Permanent Bureaucracy (BIRM) like to offer you an Obviously Bad choice and an I Guess I'll Accept That choice, and nothing else.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (bLnSU)
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Thomas Jefferson was not a Diest. He considered himself a Unitarian and publicly said that on a number of occasions. His enemies spread the rumor that he was a Diest or in some cases an atheist.
He even edited his own bible.
He even edited his own bible.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (sWgE+)
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Once again he says something that divides and damages Republicans and helps the Democrats. He isn't a Republican. False flag, troll, suicide bomber, whatever.
The Republicans need to unify and tar and feather his ass or it's 1992 all over again.
The Republicans need to unify and tar and feather his ass or it's 1992 all over again.
Posted by: b moe at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (zxFnZ)
135
Asking forgiveness is baked into the cake a bit, so I don't know what dr Peale was teaching him but I'm not impressed.
Posted by: Lea at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (vmMMi)
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Forrest Trump....
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (eOpVe)
137
129
I understand that it will make some of you happy if Trump would go away.
But then what would you be left with?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (ogYsy)
Clinton bush.
I understand that it will make some of you happy if Trump would go away.
But then what would you be left with?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (ogYsy)
Clinton bush.
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (Vf5rR)
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Thomas Jefferson was not a Diest. He considered himself a Unitarian and publicly said that on a number of occasions.
Deism is a philosophy, Unitariansim is a denomination. He was both. Deists simply believe that God created everything, wound it up, then walked away to, I dunno, play golf or something, and we're on our own. Jefferson rewrote the Bible to take out all the bits he didn't like (anything supernatural) leaving it just some stories and moral codes. He'd talk about God, but not in any faith based matter, just from an assumption of a creator.
Deism is a philosophy, Unitariansim is a denomination. He was both. Deists simply believe that God created everything, wound it up, then walked away to, I dunno, play golf or something, and we're on our own. Jefferson rewrote the Bible to take out all the bits he didn't like (anything supernatural) leaving it just some stories and moral codes. He'd talk about God, but not in any faith based matter, just from an assumption of a creator.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (39g3+)
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127 Nobody cares what Trump's relationship is (if any) with God.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (P/xrJ)'
This particular audience does. Trump is speaking in front of the FRC.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (P/xrJ)'
This particular audience does. Trump is speaking in front of the FRC.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (laMCB)
140
Augustus Trumpus
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (x3GpS)
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Circular firing squad.
Do you guys go after Biden this hard? How about Obama?
Both are walking gaffe machines.
If he builds the damn wall and starts throwing invaders out of the country I don't care if he sounds like Joe flipping Isuzu.
Do you guys go after Biden this hard? How about Obama?
Both are walking gaffe machines.
If he builds the damn wall and starts throwing invaders out of the country I don't care if he sounds like Joe flipping Isuzu.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (2Ee1I)
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Tribal Affiliations are comfortable because Tribal Affiliations work. It's the non-tribal overlords (who are in fact a tribe themselves) dicking with the little platoons of our society that is raising all the tension.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (evdj2)
143
Concerned? Yes.
I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
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A ice rink? When somebody fixed an ice rink and more in the fashion of the Winter Olympics it didn't help. Of course taking a hard stand against illegal immigration didn't help that candidate either. Go figure.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (B7Uun)
145
Trumpbots = the new Palinistas, but with 100% more dumb.
Posted by: DRayRaven at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (9YRwm)
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So I realized after this weekend that Hillary's going to be the next President. It's helpful to accept things, even things like this that really suck. My time can now be better spent on other things, like building that storage rack in the basement and getting that spot on my shoulder checked out.
Posted by: Internut at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (7u7u7)
147
Transubstantiation is all in the mind folks.
It's an ALLEGORY. Communion is meant to be a physical cue for one's inner spirit to accept Christ's sacrifice within as yours. Opening one up to forgiveness of one's sin so as to allow God to let you into Heaven. This has to be done this way because of God's wording of the covenant and oath given to mankind.
Read the freaking book, Okay?
According to whose doctrine? This is the point on which the Catholic Church attacked Protestant preachers. According to Catholic doctrine, Transubstantiation is a literal change, not figurative.
It's an ALLEGORY. Communion is meant to be a physical cue for one's inner spirit to accept Christ's sacrifice within as yours. Opening one up to forgiveness of one's sin so as to allow God to let you into Heaven. This has to be done this way because of God's wording of the covenant and oath given to mankind.
Read the freaking book, Okay?
According to whose doctrine? This is the point on which the Catholic Church attacked Protestant preachers. According to Catholic doctrine, Transubstantiation is a literal change, not figurative.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (jhqr1)
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The guys a buffoon. But I'm kinda enjoying his unchecked honest answers. His responses don't fit the usual lib attack templates and when they try to shame him, he mocks them.
At least it will be fun while it lasts.
At least it will be fun while it lasts.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (GGCsk)
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133 He even edited his own bible.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (sWgE+)
Yeah and that asshole 'n cheif profaned it by being sworn in on it.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (sWgE+)
Yeah and that asshole 'n cheif profaned it by being sworn in on it.
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (GpgJl)
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Everyone's questioning whether Trump has the temperament to be President and not whether Hillary has the ethics to be President.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
Because one actually has a question mark.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
Because one actually has a question mark.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (VAsIq)
151
Biggus Trumpus
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (JO9+V)
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It's almost as if no one else is running for potus.
Hillary is in hiding, and shutting everyone up; her supporters and the media.
And no one seems to be talking about the conservative candidates all that much. I guess there haven't been any "gotcha" and shaming moments to cover lately.
It's almost as if no one else is running for potus.
Hillary is in hiding, and shutting everyone up; her supporters and the media.
And no one seems to be talking about the conservative candidates all that much. I guess there haven't been any "gotcha" and shaming moments to cover lately.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (qCMvj)
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Ace - On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a born again Christian, I would never vote for him."
Who? Who said that? If anyone ever said that they have already decided to never vote and will therefore never "vet" the candidates anyway.
Who? Who said that? If anyone ever said that they have already decided to never vote and will therefore never "vet" the candidates anyway.
Posted by: Ken at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (LXJ1e)
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Yeah, like all pop psych its easily repeated nonsense based on shreds of some truth for a small group of isolated people projected on everyone. Pop psychology gives jealousy an easy voice.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)
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One of God's commandments covers THIS type of jealousy. It's called coveting. And it's the basis of most of the leftist/communist screed.
I really do think we need to turn around and look at who really are the people without God. Who really are the people who never ask for forgiveness.
I'll give you a hint. It's the very same people who denied God three times at their prez convention. And, yet, they got their candidate re-elected.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)
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One of God's commandments covers THIS type of jealousy. It's called coveting. And it's the basis of most of the leftist/communist screed.
I really do think we need to turn around and look at who really are the people without God. Who really are the people who never ask for forgiveness.
I'll give you a hint. It's the very same people who denied God three times at their prez convention. And, yet, they got their candidate re-elected.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (P25Hh)
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***"I'm not a very religious guy. I mean, I believe in God, and I hold Christian values, but I'm not a regular church goer. But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"***
That's the kind of response the GOP or conservatives need to work on.
There's no need to get stupidly emotional or tribalistic, but if you're not incorporating the successful tactics of your opponent and only playing defense against them, you're going to lose.
Always turn it back around. Use emotions as a hook (because let's face it, that's what works) and then make them play defense for once.
That's the kind of response the GOP or conservatives need to work on.
There's no need to get stupidly emotional or tribalistic, but if you're not incorporating the successful tactics of your opponent and only playing defense against them, you're going to lose.
Always turn it back around. Use emotions as a hook (because let's face it, that's what works) and then make them play defense for once.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (NOIQH)
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The Republicans need to unify and tar and feather his ass or it's 1992 all over again.
Posted by: b moe at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (zxFnZ)
Good gosh, you mean they might do what they did to his daddy, and Jeb might not win after all?
However would we live with ourselves?
Posted by: b moe at July 20, 2015 02:26 PM (zxFnZ)
Good gosh, you mean they might do what they did to his daddy, and Jeb might not win after all?
However would we live with ourselves?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (TOk1P)
158
Trumpopotamus ...
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (eOpVe)
159
Trump inherited hundreds of millions when his dad passed. Turning that into a billion or sodoesn't seemTHAT impressive considering where he started from.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (8marX)
160
>>127 Nobody cares what Trump's relationship is (if any) with God.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (P/xrJ)'
This particular audience does. Trump is speaking in front of the FRC.<<
Yes, but does that audience really matter? Are they part of the 52% of Iowans that voted for Obama.
I really don't get all the Iowa ass-kissing that goes on
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 02:25 PM (P/xrJ)'
This particular audience does. Trump is speaking in front of the FRC.<<
Yes, but does that audience really matter? Are they part of the 52% of Iowans that voted for Obama.
I really don't get all the Iowa ass-kissing that goes on
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (GGCsk)
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If he builds the damn wall and starts throwing invaders out of the country I don't care if he sounds like Joe flipping Isuzu.
Posted by: gdonovan
He's promised to build the wall. He's also promised to amnesty everyone already here.
Posted by: gdonovan
He's promised to build the wall. He's also promised to amnesty everyone already here.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (VAsIq)
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I understand that it will make some of you happy if Trump would go away.
For me its not so much wanting him to go away, he's amusing and he is showing politicians how they could get things done, if only they had the pills.
No, for me its more frustration that people seem to be buying into his lies and ridiculous BS. He's seriously just making crap up as it occurs to him and people are fawning over the guy. That bothers me.
For me its not so much wanting him to go away, he's amusing and he is showing politicians how they could get things done, if only they had the pills.
No, for me its more frustration that people seem to be buying into his lies and ridiculous BS. He's seriously just making crap up as it occurs to him and people are fawning over the guy. That bothers me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (39g3+)
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sorry for the typo. typing too fast. Oopsie.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (cudF1)
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Trump--there but for the grace of God goes God.
Posted by: Furious George at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (UlJ3l)
165
why does he need to anticipate reactions to his answers? because you want him to? he seems pretty randian to me....he does what he WANTS TO DO.....he ANSWERS TO HIMSELF. .... now that is a problem for a president who is supposed to answer to US but aside from that......i admire him....he is who he is......because that's who he WANTS to be........
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (0O7c5)
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Biggus Trumpus
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (JO9+V)
Ok, I admit it. I giggled. Snickered, even.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2015 02:28 PM (JO9+V)
Ok, I admit it. I giggled. Snickered, even.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (TOk1P)
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Clearly he never intended on being the nominee, nor planning on running a real campaign. Not sure who he is spoiling for, but he has made not one thought about how to run an actual campaign for president, nor how to answer questions without pissing off all the members of the base of which the party he is running.
Posted by: CinderllaStoryCarl at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (hafwJ)
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I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
You sound concerned. Very concerned, even.
You sound concerned. Very concerned, even.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (JO9+V)
169
Trump Sidious
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (x3GpS)
170
The Trials and Trumpulations...
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (eOpVe)
171
Fire in the Belly...zzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: teh FRED! at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (+70b8)
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"Though I would point out that Trump is probably worth in the range of $9 Billion.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (jhqr1)
I pay that much in taxes every year.
"Though I would point out that Trump is probably worth in the range of $9 Billion.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:20 PM (jhqr1)
I pay that much in taxes every year.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (OD2ni)
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I get more and more depressed when I see Huckster's poll numbers. FFS people. Are these just fucking drones??
If Trump figures out how to get Huckster's endorsement, the GOPe is royally and totally fucked imho.
If Trump figures out how to get Huckster's endorsement, the GOPe is royally and totally fucked imho.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (q5APL)
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Until the rest of the GOP field decide to grow a pair. Trump is going to keep taking their lunch money and make them cry. Right now I'm enjoying the heartburn he's causing.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (sWgE+)
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Who you hanging out with, Patrick in Michigan - the KKK?
WTF are you even talking about?
No, not hardly. I forget the guys name who I saw had written something to that effect. Been a while.
WTF are you even talking about?
No, not hardly. I forget the guys name who I saw had written something to that effect. Been a while.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (cudF1)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (eOpVe)
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Hello . . . anyone there?
Trump will never get elected.
Never. Ever. Ever. Never.
What he would do if elected is a fun game, but will remain entirely hypothetical.
He won't get nominated either.
The only way Republican can win the Whitehouse again is if there is a lefty spoiler running to siphon off dem votes. Reverund Jackson or a third party latino lefty dem.
Hello . . . anyone there?
Trump will never get elected.
Never. Ever. Ever. Never.
What he would do if elected is a fun game, but will remain entirely hypothetical.
He won't get nominated either.
The only way Republican can win the Whitehouse again is if there is a lefty spoiler running to siphon off dem votes. Reverund Jackson or a third party latino lefty dem.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (5vV+V)
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Rat's ass not given.
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (Fi9k7)
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If Trump figures out how to get Huckster's endorsement, the GOPe is royally and totally fucked imho.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (q5APL)
you mean.....the gop isn't totally fucked already?
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (q5APL)
you mean.....the gop isn't totally fucked already?
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (0O7c5)
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It could be worse, he could have claimed to be "spiritual".
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (evdj2)
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It doesn't matter how bright he is. He's too used to surrounding himself with people scared to contradict him. He thinks he doesn't HAVE to listen. We already have a President like that.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
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So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 1 Corinthians 11:27.
Fortunately, as an evangelical, I have no middle man to go through; I also sin 20 times on the way home, but you gotta repent, even if you're gonna repeat.
No Trump por moi.
Fortunately, as an evangelical, I have no middle man to go through; I also sin 20 times on the way home, but you gotta repent, even if you're gonna repeat.
No Trump por moi.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (q5APL)
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He's promised to build the wall. He's also promised to amnesty everyone already here.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (VAsIq)
We already accepted that once but they didn't build the fence as promised.
The GOPe caved to the Dems and weakened the provisions requiring that the fence be built before the amnesty.
As per usual.
And here we are. Again.
Build. The. Freaking. Wall.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 20, 2015 02:30 PM (VAsIq)
We already accepted that once but they didn't build the fence as promised.
The GOPe caved to the Dems and weakened the provisions requiring that the fence be built before the amnesty.
As per usual.
And here we are. Again.
Build. The. Freaking. Wall.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (x3GpS)
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No, not hardly. I forget the guys name who I saw had written something to that effect. Been a while.
You can find somebody writing anything if you look.
You can find somebody writing anything if you look.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (evdj2)
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***"Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for."***
It's the same sort of junk you hear when people are critical of gay marriage, "Oh, he must still be in the closet."
Kafkaesque bullshit.
It's the same sort of junk you hear when people are critical of gay marriage, "Oh, he must still be in the closet."
Kafkaesque bullshit.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (xSCb6)
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Didn't they ever read Joshua 6:20. He was THERE!
"When the trump-ets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the
trump-et, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone
charged straight in, and they took the city."
OK I may have edited that...
"When the trump-ets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the
trump-et, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone
charged straight in, and they took the city."
OK I may have edited that...
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (GGCsk)
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Just wait until you see our justification for not letting Trump, who should be leading in the polls by then, into the debates.
Currently going with "he's a mere celebrity Poujadist". But quite willing to go with, "because -- that's why. Want to make something of it?" if we have to.
Posted by: The RNC and Friends
Just wait until you see our justification for not letting Trump, who should be leading in the polls by then, into the debates.
Currently going with "he's a mere celebrity Poujadist". But quite willing to go with, "because -- that's why. Want to make something of it?" if we have to.
Posted by: The RNC and Friends
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (kdS6q)
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Trump Sidious
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (x3GpS)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:31 PM (x3GpS)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (TOk1P)
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Mt. Trump
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (eOpVe)
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Until the rest of the GOP field decide to grow a pair. Trump is going to
keep taking their lunch money and make them cry. Right now I'm enjoying
the heartburn he's causing.
exactly
Until the rest of the GOP field decide to grow a pair. Trump is going to
keep taking their lunch money and make them cry. Right now I'm enjoying
the heartburn he's causing.
exactly
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (+70b8)
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"That isn't an answer any actual Christian would give."
Uh...We've got a usurping muslim squatting in the White House now.
His "muslim faith" keeps him from even pretending to care about Christian and attending church.
So...uh...don't care about the depth or lack of depth of Trump's faith.
We want the uniparty gone.
Uh...We've got a usurping muslim squatting in the White House now.
His "muslim faith" keeps him from even pretending to care about Christian and attending church.
So...uh...don't care about the depth or lack of depth of Trump's faith.
We want the uniparty gone.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (Ixbid)
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So I realized after this weekend that Hillary's going to be the next President. It's helpful to accept things, even things like this that really suck.
Yep. Makes a big difference in the intake of Tums and misery after elections.
According to whose doctrine?
Forget it, he's rolling
WTF are you even talking about?
Hes concerned. He is very concerned.
Yep. Makes a big difference in the intake of Tums and misery after elections.
According to whose doctrine?
Forget it, he's rolling
WTF are you even talking about?
Hes concerned. He is very concerned.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (39g3+)
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Choosing sides between McCain and Trump is a lose lose situation.
McCain is an egomaniac asshole and so is Trump.
McCain is an egomaniac asshole and so is Trump.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (Xa4vS)
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A few months ago Beck and crew were going though paths to the GOP nominee using the distinct factions one has to win. I might be wrong on the 3 and 4 as one group.
1.Establishment
2.Social Conservative
3.Tea party
4.Libertarian.
One needs at least two to win. Cruz and Paul has 2, 3, and 4. JEB! has 1 for sure. Walker might have part of each faction. Then there is Trump. He might have 4.Libertarians and that is about it. When his pro-choice, pro-amnesty and pro-cronyism is fully out he will have none.
1.Establishment
2.Social Conservative
3.Tea party
4.Libertarian.
One needs at least two to win. Cruz and Paul has 2, 3, and 4. JEB! has 1 for sure. Walker might have part of each faction. Then there is Trump. He might have 4.Libertarians and that is about it. When his pro-choice, pro-amnesty and pro-cronyism is fully out he will have none.
Posted by: TJ at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (sZHYK)
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Le Etat c'est le Trompe'
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (x3GpS)
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The problem with defending Trump is, an hour later you're defending him again.
You been here 4 hoah, you go home now!
You been here 4 hoah, you go home now!
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (YOT2J)
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143 "Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands. "
Yeah, doggone it, all that is only a stone's throw away from actually trying to pass laws requiring doctors to notify parents before performing abortions on their 14 year old daughters.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands. "
Yeah, doggone it, all that is only a stone's throw away from actually trying to pass laws requiring doctors to notify parents before performing abortions on their 14 year old daughters.
Posted by: doug at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (IYEs/)
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ACE/CHARLES JOHNSON-what's wrong...Trump isn't enough ofa typical repube she-male for you?
Trumps playing this for laughs. When he's had enough he'll give everyone a big fuck you and go back to being a billionaire.
The rest of us will be forced to view cat photos...
ACE/CHARLES JOHNSON-what's wrong...Trump isn't enough ofa typical repube she-male for you?
Trumps playing this for laughs. When he's had enough he'll give everyone a big fuck you and go back to being a billionaire.
The rest of us will be forced to view cat photos...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (aHX05)
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If he builds the damn wall and starts throwing invaders out of the country I don't care if he sounds like Joe flipping Isuzu.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (2Ee1I)
That's the point. WHO KNOWS if he would actually build a damn wall.
He's obviously snookered you into thinking that he 1) actually means what he says and 2) can accomplish it in D.C.
Neither of these are true. This is a guy who has donated to Democrats all his life and used eminent domain (improperly, a la Kelo) to kick a widow off her property so he could build.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be cruel, but if you believe a word this Clintonesque grifter and scam artist says, you're a bigger idiot than he is.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (2Ee1I)
That's the point. WHO KNOWS if he would actually build a damn wall.
He's obviously snookered you into thinking that he 1) actually means what he says and 2) can accomplish it in D.C.
Neither of these are true. This is a guy who has donated to Democrats all his life and used eminent domain (improperly, a la Kelo) to kick a widow off her property so he could build.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be cruel, but if you believe a word this Clintonesque grifter and scam artist says, you're a bigger idiot than he is.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (laMCB)
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I've said it before: Trump is a buffoon. I wouldn't vote for him. But I love the fact that he's out there saying things that are making people uncomfortable. Maybe he should tap Howard Stern for VP.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (Q2akM)
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Also, if you think about it, compensation theory is lazy. Who doesn't have some sort of hangup or flaw that you can point to and say, "Yep, that's what they're compensating for."
I'm compensating for death. Mine. That's why I like guns.
I'm compensating for death. Mine. That's why I like guns.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (qBbz7)
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Trump is a long way from being a conservative, but so is the GOP. Maybe they should be gay married after all.
Trump is a long way from being a conservative, but so is the GOP. Maybe they should be gay married after all.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (ODxAs)
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I pay that much in taxes every year.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo
My guess is he was a moderately successful middle manager in tech back in the 1980s or early 90s. Since then however, he's been living off whatever savings he has and wishes he was somebody again.
His entire self-worth is built on this.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo
My guess is he was a moderately successful middle manager in tech back in the 1980s or early 90s. Since then however, he's been living off whatever savings he has and wishes he was somebody again.
His entire self-worth is built on this.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (jhqr1)
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>>No, not hardly. I forget the guys name who I saw had written something to that effect. Been a while
The only time I've ever read any talk like that was feminists insisting that "A Handmaid's Tale" was totes possible and Christians for reals want it.
The only time I've ever read any talk like that was feminists insisting that "A Handmaid's Tale" was totes possible and Christians for reals want it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (zABgu)
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Trumpopotamus ...
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (eOpVe)
Trumposaurus Rex
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (TOk1P)
Awww crap.
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (eOpVe)
Trumposaurus Rex
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (TOk1P)
Awww crap.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: kc & the sunshine band! at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (kivUY)
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Is Trump our version of Biden? They seem to talk like each other.
Posted by: Draki at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (/LwMg)
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202
I've said it before: Trump is a buffoon. I wouldn't vote for him. But I
love the fact that he's out there saying things that are making people
uncomfortable. Maybe he should tap Howard Stern for VP.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (Q2akM)
omg!!!! the heads that would explode!!!!
I've said it before: Trump is a buffoon. I wouldn't vote for him. But I
love the fact that he's out there saying things that are making people
uncomfortable. Maybe he should tap Howard Stern for VP.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (Q2akM)
omg!!!! the heads that would explode!!!!
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (0O7c5)
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"Transubstantiation is a literal change"
That's certainly one theory. But it's not like Jesus ever talked in allegory or anything.
That's certainly one theory. But it's not like Jesus ever talked in allegory or anything.
Posted by: f2000 at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (5xwgn)
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Who wins the bid names the Trump.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (xSCb6)
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Phoenixgirl:
Not yet. My opinion of course, but Trump in the general has a big opportunity to completely fuck over the dems.
I'm not sure how people think otherwise.
Is he going to be super duper nuanced about the detail of implementing a school voucher program in 50 states.
No. But it is clear from his hour long speeches that: 1) he will absolutely build that fucking wall; and 2) he loves America and is really concerned about what's going on.
That's enough for me because the guys I like can't beat Jebster. It's been rigged from get go.
Trump is fucking that all up. That's why they're screaming like stuck pigs. Enter Luntz, stage right to poke the bear.
Actually very glad this has happened. If Trump is serious we should see a much more honed, and a bit more reserved, candidate going forward.
Not yet. My opinion of course, but Trump in the general has a big opportunity to completely fuck over the dems.
I'm not sure how people think otherwise.
Is he going to be super duper nuanced about the detail of implementing a school voucher program in 50 states.
No. But it is clear from his hour long speeches that: 1) he will absolutely build that fucking wall; and 2) he loves America and is really concerned about what's going on.
That's enough for me because the guys I like can't beat Jebster. It's been rigged from get go.
Trump is fucking that all up. That's why they're screaming like stuck pigs. Enter Luntz, stage right to poke the bear.
Actually very glad this has happened. If Trump is serious we should see a much more honed, and a bit more reserved, candidate going forward.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (q5APL)
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What in Trump's background or personality would make you think EOs would be gone? I would think just the opposite.
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Because even in that case, 99% of the GOPe and DNCe will be reelected to Congress.
And both of the would unite against him.
Because Trump the Ego will be against them to make The Ego bigger.
So, it's really the only outcome of all the potential candidates where the Executive power is returned to it's Constitutional limits and the Legislative actually returns to doing their job.
This is Let it Burn with thermite and gasoline--both parties will destroy themselves trying to destroy Trump.
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Because even in that case, 99% of the GOPe and DNCe will be reelected to Congress.
And both of the would unite against him.
Because Trump the Ego will be against them to make The Ego bigger.
So, it's really the only outcome of all the potential candidates where the Executive power is returned to it's Constitutional limits and the Legislative actually returns to doing their job.
This is Let it Burn with thermite and gasoline--both parties will destroy themselves trying to destroy Trump.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (ZvKdv)
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Until the rest of the GOP field decide to grow a pair. Trump is going to keep taking their lunch money and make them cry. Right now I'm enjoying the heartburn he's causing.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (sWgE+)
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So am I. And it's way past time.
Go Donald!
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (sWgE+)
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So am I. And it's way past time.
Go Donald!
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (P25Hh)
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Lizzy they doth project upon innocents the deepest darkest most base desires that beat within the cavity of their hollow chest.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (zABgu)
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All I know is if he kick's Granny Clinton in the pantsuit, he's got my vote.
And wouldn't it be great if at the Inauguration Trump told Obama "You're fired!"
And wouldn't it be great if at the Inauguration Trump told Obama "You're fired!"
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
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The rest of us will be forced to view cat photos...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (aHX05)
Forced? What the heck is wrong with you that you have to be forced?
Communist...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (aHX05)
Forced? What the heck is wrong with you that you have to be forced?
Communist...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (TOk1P)
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The only time I've ever read any talk like that was feminists insisting that "A Handmaid's Tale" was totes possible and Christians for reals want it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
I remember that. Utterly retarded.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
I remember that. Utterly retarded.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (qBbz7)
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Vote for me and the GOPe. I'll build the god damned fence if you want it. Swearsies. On the honor of my service.
Posted by: John McCain at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (1CroS)
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So, it's really the only outcome of all the potential candidates where the Executive power is returned to it's Constitutional limits and the Legislative actually returns to doing their job.
Because he's exceedingly white.
Because he's exceedingly white.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (evdj2)
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>>>> A few months ago Beck and crew were going though paths to the GOP nominee using the distinct factions one has to win. [etc]
Good so far as it goes. There's no path to the WH itself though.
Good so far as it goes. There's no path to the WH itself though.
Posted by: Basketball-sized Spiders at July 20, 2015 02:38 PM (3ZtZW)
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he does what he WANTS TO DO.....he ANSWERS TO HIMSELF. .... now that is a problem for a president who is supposed to answer to US
He's too used to surrounding himself with people scared to contradict him. He thinks he doesn't HAVE to listen. We already have a President like that.
Yeah, exactly. As fun as it is seeing him give everyone the finger and paint his body with gold while laughing, that's not the dude you want in office usually. If I wasn't sure he'd simply loot the nation for 4 years straight while in office I'd vote for him just for the entertainment value though. Not like it matters who wins at this point.
But he isn't running to be president, I don't think. He's running because its a yuuuge ego trip.
He's too used to surrounding himself with people scared to contradict him. He thinks he doesn't HAVE to listen. We already have a President like that.
Yeah, exactly. As fun as it is seeing him give everyone the finger and paint his body with gold while laughing, that's not the dude you want in office usually. If I wasn't sure he'd simply loot the nation for 4 years straight while in office I'd vote for him just for the entertainment value though. Not like it matters who wins at this point.
But he isn't running to be president, I don't think. He's running because its a yuuuge ego trip.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (39g3+)
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The difference between Trump and Biden, Trump went out into the cold brutal world and made his own way. Biden can't seem to escape the bidet called government employment.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (zABgu)
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Everybody who stated they wanted to watch Republican's "leadership" in Congress writhe in pain, here's your moment of schadenfreude.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (GGCsk)
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He's obviously snookered you into thinking that he 1) actually means what he says and 2) can accomplish it in D.C.
I'd at least like to see SOMEONE take a crack at it. Everyone else is just rolling over on their backs with legs spread.
I'm ready for pitchforks and torches.
I'd at least like to see SOMEONE take a crack at it. Everyone else is just rolling over on their backs with legs spread.
I'm ready for pitchforks and torches.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (2Ee1I)
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And wouldn't it be great if at the Inauguration Trump told Obama "You're fired!"
In fairness, the best he could say would be "You're retired".
Fucking Romney.
In fairness, the best he could say would be "You're retired".
Fucking Romney.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (evdj2)
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All I know is if he kick's Granny Clinton in the pantsuit, he's got my vote.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
I haven't seen him attack Clinton yet.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
I haven't seen him attack Clinton yet.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (qCMvj)
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You know who else wasn't a born-again Christian but served Christians well? Constantine the Great.
Posted by: Ken at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (LXJ1e)
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Trumptacular !
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (+70b8)
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ACE/CHARLES JOHNSON
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (aHX05)
^^ This is just plain slander.
ACE/CHARLES JOHNSON
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:34 PM (aHX05)
^^ This is just plain slander.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (RD7QR)
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Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye. 
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (cudF1)
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All your posts are belong to Trump.
Posted by: Trump at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (Vf5rR)
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Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:32 PM (cudF1)
Translation: I can't be bothered to prove this shit I'm just making up.
Translation: I can't be bothered to prove this shit I'm just making up.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (xSCb6)
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I'll say this for Donald Trump. No one handled Sasha Baron Cohen (as Ali G in this instance) better. He sussed out that he was dealing with either a first class idiot or a prankster and got out of there in less than a minute.
Posted by: seattle slough at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (mCz8+)
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Trumpceratops
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (eOpVe)
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We have another war hero, General Wesley Clark who is now publicly calling for internment camps for "yet to be determined" radicals.
This on the heels of our government experts and media lap dogs banging their collective heads on the wall trying to figure out the motive of the Tennessee shooting.
This on the heels of our government experts and media lap dogs banging their collective heads on the wall trying to figure out the motive of the Tennessee shooting.
Posted by: Drider at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (DNFK1)
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Like all Trump answers, it starts with name dropping then goes into insanity.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at July 20, 2015 02:41 PM (U8W/7)
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Marcus T: "And wouldn't it be great if at the Inauguration Trump told Obama 'You're fired!'"
That would've worked better in 2012 and Obama had lost. Alas, a stupid nation got to vote. We'll never enjoy such a top rate Zing.
That would've worked better in 2012 and Obama had lost. Alas, a stupid nation got to vote. We'll never enjoy such a top rate Zing.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 02:41 PM (1CroS)
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Weasely Clark is still around? I thought he was still spooning with his PRC spy girl-toy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:41 PM (zABgu)
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/sock, dammit
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 02:41 PM (3ZtZW)
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You know who else wasn't a born-again Christian but served Christians well? Constantine the Great.
Yes and no. He did get baptized before he died. He took the faith seriously enough that he knew he would do things as Emperor that a Christian just can't do and so he postponed it until he was done.
Yes and no. He did get baptized before he died. He took the faith seriously enough that he knew he would do things as Emperor that a Christian just can't do and so he postponed it until he was done.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 02:41 PM (evdj2)
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When can we officially start to not care about Trump? Cause I have been there since 1987.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (/HC6x)
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Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (cudF1)
Just another internet phony. Bye now.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (cudF1)
Just another internet phony. Bye now.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (TOk1P)
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Yeah, Trump isn't the biggest Christian. I don't think he's portraying himself as a strong christian like Obama.
Posted by: Draki at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (/LwMg)
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Don't care about Trump.
Posted by: TallDave at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (/s1LA)
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I can't stand Trump. He's incapable of saying the warm soapy words that appeal to everyone all the time so Ima stick with Obama. He's good at that. Hillary also says a lots of feelgood shit she doesn't believe so Ima support her too. It looks like a lot of the commenters agree with that.
As for Trump being a clown. He's one of the most serious people in the race. He's actually accomplished things but never graduated from clown college. Anyone here think that Trump is a bigger clown than Hillary or Barack?
As for Trump being a clown. He's one of the most serious people in the race. He's actually accomplished things but never graduated from clown college. Anyone here think that Trump is a bigger clown than Hillary or Barack?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (kfcYC)
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Weasel Zippers cites to a Monmouth Poll out right now, which compares interviews done on Thursday and Friday and then over the weekend when considering this "firestorm" of controversy.
LOL.
Not one bit has changed they say, and Trump is far and away number two in that poll. Walker is killing it though and likely to win it I think.
Walker and Cruz are who I'm watching very closely. I'm dying to see some FL numbers on the race.
LOL.
Not one bit has changed they say, and Trump is far and away number two in that poll. Walker is killing it though and likely to win it I think.
Walker and Cruz are who I'm watching very closely. I'm dying to see some FL numbers on the race.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (xSCb6)
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Listen, I supported Cain in 2008 because I have had it up to my eyeballs with professional politicians, lawyers and others of the anointed class.
This experiment in democracy and self governance is over I look at supporting Trump as a fun pastime until he implodes and we get to watch the Mexichurian candidate lose resoundingly to scankles.
It will be a lot like the end to Fight Club except it isn't going to be a fantasy.
This experiment in democracy and self governance is over I look at supporting Trump as a fun pastime until he implodes and we get to watch the Mexichurian candidate lose resoundingly to scankles.
It will be a lot like the end to Fight Club except it isn't going to be a fantasy.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (97FRK)
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Trumps played this beautifully. Heput on displaythe whiniest pussies of the GOP field. Perry and Jebtard being the clear award winners. Yay for them...
Trumps played this beautifully. Heput on displaythe whiniest pussies of the GOP field. Perry and Jebtard being the clear award winners. Yay for them...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (aHX05)
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"I've said it before: Trump is a buffoon. I wouldn't vote for him. But I love the fact that he's out there saying things that are making people uncomfortable. Maybe he should tap Howard Stern for VP."
Howard's short-lived campaign for NY Gov in 1994 was hilarious while it lasted. He hammered Cuomo on a daily basis and actually had many reasonable positions. It was too bad he got BDS in 2004 and went full Dem.
"I've said it before: Trump is a buffoon. I wouldn't vote for him. But I love the fact that he's out there saying things that are making people uncomfortable. Maybe he should tap Howard Stern for VP."
Howard's short-lived campaign for NY Gov in 1994 was hilarious while it lasted. He hammered Cuomo on a daily basis and actually had many reasonable positions. It was too bad he got BDS in 2004 and went full Dem.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (OD2ni)
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As fun as it is seeing him give everyone the finger and paint his body with gold while laughing, that's not the dude you want in office usually.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Can think of some examples of it working. Huey Long, TR and pretty much every race baiting black mayor in America.
As fun as it is seeing him give everyone the finger and paint his body with gold while laughing, that's not the dude you want in office usually.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Can think of some examples of it working. Huey Long, TR and pretty much every race baiting black mayor in America.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 02:43 PM (kdS6q)
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I am impatient for this side show to be over. Maybe his highlighting of some inconvenient truths about our border is beneficial - I don't know.
What makes me uncomfortable is the unforced errors and distraction.
What makes me uncomfortable is the unforced errors and distraction.
Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2015 02:43 PM (oiNtH)
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If elected, maybe he would change the name of the White House to Trump House, as the white house sounds racist to me anyway.
Posted by: Colin at July 20, 2015 02:43 PM (WQLtV)
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1) Trump thrives on controversy
2) Trump thrives on attention
3) Trump thrives on flabbergasting his audience
4) Trump thrives on threats
5) Trump thrives on the outrage of his opponents
6) Trump has a high volume ego
7) Over inflation is not possible.
2) Trump thrives on attention
3) Trump thrives on flabbergasting his audience
4) Trump thrives on threats
5) Trump thrives on the outrage of his opponents
6) Trump has a high volume ego
7) Over inflation is not possible.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:43 PM (x3GpS)
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The only time I've ever read any talk like that was feminists insisting that "A Handmaid's Tale" was totes possible and Christians for reals want it.
Yeah I remember those days, not long after 2004 and the Democrats were sneering about "Jesusland" and how those horrible evangelicals were about to impose Old Testament laws on all of us.
There are a few cranks like Rushdoony that teach that kind of thing, but they have followers that number in the twenties. There's a bigger group that thinks we should follow the wise teachings of Drizzt Do'Urden than those of radical Theonomists.
Yeah I remember those days, not long after 2004 and the Democrats were sneering about "Jesusland" and how those horrible evangelicals were about to impose Old Testament laws on all of us.
There are a few cranks like Rushdoony that teach that kind of thing, but they have followers that number in the twenties. There's a bigger group that thinks we should follow the wise teachings of Drizzt Do'Urden than those of radical Theonomists.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:43 PM (39g3+)
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Sad Trumpbone...wah, wah,wahhhh
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (eOpVe)
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Trump would have to eat a live baby to make me want him to get out of the race.
I want him to be as offensive as possible, for as long as possible. I want him to damage NBC, ABC, CBS, Jon Stewart, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Andrea Mitchell, etc etc etc etc. I want blood.
I want him to be as offensive as possible, for as long as possible. I want him to damage NBC, ABC, CBS, Jon Stewart, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Andrea Mitchell, etc etc etc etc. I want blood.
Posted by: meekle at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (94iKh)
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>>> We have another war hero, General Wesley Clark who is now publicly calling for internment camps for "yet to be determined" radicals.
Preposterous!
We'll form a blue-ribbon panel to explore this idea and come up with a compromise solution!
Preposterous!
We'll form a blue-ribbon panel to explore this idea and come up with a compromise solution!
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)
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Weasely Clark is still around?
Apperantly he is hanging out with what is left of the Generals who avoided the great weeding.
I think they mean to harm us.
Pfftttt, nnawww.
Apperantly he is hanging out with what is left of the Generals who avoided the great weeding.
I think they mean to harm us.
Pfftttt, nnawww.
Posted by: Drider at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (DNFK1)
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209 Trumpopotamus ...
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (eOpVe)
Trumposaurus Rex
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (TOk1P)
Awww crap.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (TOk1P)
[Clutching trophy and weeping] I'd like to thank ace for establishing the HQ, and my employers for not coming to my office very often, and....
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:29 PM (eOpVe)
Trumposaurus Rex
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
Is this a contest? May I suggest Trumpasaurus Rex?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:33 PM (TOk1P)
Awww crap.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:36 PM (TOk1P)
[Clutching trophy and weeping] I'd like to thank ace for establishing the HQ, and my employers for not coming to my office very often, and....
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (/Ho8c)
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>>So, it's really the only outcome of all the potential candidates where the Executive power is returned to it's Constitutional limits and the Legislative actually returns to doing their job.
Not sure I understand how with everyone in Congress united to stop everything he does that restores Constitutional balance or makes it less likely he wouldn't try to go it alone. I see it just the opposite.
Besides, Walker has shown he worked very well with the Republican Congress in WI and unless he's been declared a heretic in the last 24 hours he's pretty damned conservative. Oh and he's kicking the crap out of Trump and everyone else in Iowa right now.
Not sure I understand how with everyone in Congress united to stop everything he does that restores Constitutional balance or makes it less likely he wouldn't try to go it alone. I see it just the opposite.
Besides, Walker has shown he worked very well with the Republican Congress in WI and unless he's been declared a heretic in the last 24 hours he's pretty damned conservative. Oh and he's kicking the crap out of Trump and everyone else in Iowa right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (OGm46)
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I think that Trump would actually govern a lot like Schwarzeneggar in California. Lots of deals and capitulation to socialism with virtually no conservatism.
But he's fun to watch , he drags the conversation to the right and the kids love him, so....
But he's fun to watch , he drags the conversation to the right and the kids love him, so....
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:45 PM (+70b8)
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Patrick in Michigan'
You are an absolute liar of the first water. You have never ever read any Christian, protestant or catholic, evangelical or mainline - ever say, write, hint, wink, or semaphore anything like the bullshit garbage lying trash you put forth. Never. You are full of shit and you are a fucking bigot.
You are an absolute liar of the first water. You have never ever read any Christian, protestant or catholic, evangelical or mainline - ever say, write, hint, wink, or semaphore anything like the bullshit garbage lying trash you put forth. Never. You are full of shit and you are a fucking bigot.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 20, 2015 02:45 PM (a/WrW)
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There's no path to the WH itself though.
Duh! Yes, there is. Pennsylvania Avenue!
Duh! Yes, there is. Pennsylvania Avenue!
Posted by: joey biden at July 20, 2015 02:46 PM (kivUY)
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Oh, he's very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 20, 2015 02:46 PM (eOpVe)
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Trump is this years useful cannon fodder. If he plays his cards right he can carry on Newt Gingrich's torch. No chance in hell, but entertaining so long as he is sticking it to the right targets. Just don't go jihadi within the tent.
Posted by: The Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (RDB/C)
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Looks like choices.truste.com is running really slowly... might want to prune whatever is calling that from the site.
I routed it to localhost in my hosts file and wow does the site load faster.
I routed it to localhost in my hosts file and wow does the site load faster.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (78TbK)
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241 We have another war hero, General Wesley Clark who is now publicly calling for internment camps for "yet to be determined" radicals.
This on the heels of our government experts and media lap dogs banging their collective heads on the wall trying to figure out the motive of the Tennessee shooting.
Posted by: Drider at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (DNFK1)
Say what? Do you have a link for that?
This on the heels of our government experts and media lap dogs banging their collective heads on the wall trying to figure out the motive of the Tennessee shooting.
Posted by: Drider at July 20, 2015 02:40 PM (DNFK1)
Say what? Do you have a link for that?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (RD7QR)
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Can't stand Trump and I don't think he's religious at all. That being said, not all who are religious are religious in the way outwardly religious people are. I consider myself religious, but even my mother questioned whether I was an atheist. I am private in my religious beliefs, simply put.
One also has to remember that not all Protestant faiths teach the gospel in the same manner. I am a United Methodist by baptism, attended a (truly) Catholic college. At college, I took a North American religions class and one assignment was to attend a church service not of your faith. I went to an evangelical church and was absolutely floored by the difference from my quiet little Methodist church.
One also has to remember that not all Protestant faiths teach the gospel in the same manner. I am a United Methodist by baptism, attended a (truly) Catholic college. At college, I took a North American religions class and one assignment was to attend a church service not of your faith. I went to an evangelical church and was absolutely floored by the difference from my quiet little Methodist church.
Posted by: pforeman at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (GIcyF)
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Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan
Adjusts semi-ironic fedora to jaunty angle.
Attempts to fit asthma inhaler thru mouth of Guy Fawkes mask.
Passes out from anoxia.
Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan
Adjusts semi-ironic fedora to jaunty angle.
Attempts to fit asthma inhaler thru mouth of Guy Fawkes mask.
Passes out from anoxia.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (kdS6q)
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Weasely Clark's CV
Vietnam era.
Speaks Russian
Was an almost unknown commander when Waco happened.
Was SACUER for the Yugoslavia mess including bombing the PRC embassy and almost getting NATO in a shooting war with Russia.
Failed Presidential candidate.
Beltway Bandit with deep connections to the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Vietnam era.
Speaks Russian
Was an almost unknown commander when Waco happened.
Was SACUER for the Yugoslavia mess including bombing the PRC embassy and almost getting NATO in a shooting war with Russia.
Failed Presidential candidate.
Beltway Bandit with deep connections to the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zABgu)
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We have another war hero, General Wesley Clark who
is now publicly calling for internment camps for "yet to be determined"
radicals.
Preposterous!
We'll form a blue-ribbon panel to explore this idea and come up with a compromise solution!
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)
It'd fix our muslim problem.
is now publicly calling for internment camps for "yet to be determined"
radicals.
Preposterous!
We'll form a blue-ribbon panel to explore this idea and come up with a compromise solution!
Posted by: Bigby's Noogie at July 20, 2015 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)
It'd fix our muslim problem.
Posted by: Draki at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (/LwMg)
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Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (cudF1)
Don't let the door knob etc. etc. etc.
A fake, phony, fraud.
- zombie Bob Grant -(wouldn't it be cool if Bob were still with us? He'd be ripping a strip off of Donald every broadcast)
Welp, I can see what I am dealing with here. Bye.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (cudF1)
Don't let the door knob etc. etc. etc.
A fake, phony, fraud.
- zombie Bob Grant -(wouldn't it be cool if Bob were still with us? He'd be ripping a strip off of Donald every broadcast)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (x3GpS)
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I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian
Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Another big fan of 'The Handmaid's Tale,' the liberal's wank-mag since 1985.
I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian
Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Another big fan of 'The Handmaid's Tale,' the liberal's wank-mag since 1985.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (oVJmc)
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Oh, he's very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts,
bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think
he's a righteous dude.
+1
Oh, he's very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts,
bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think
he's a righteous dude.
+1
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (+70b8)
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@236
What are you dealing with here? Impeccably dressed rogues and ladies? A scurvy band of Scalawags and Scalawaggettes? Your mental superiors? The dancing queen? Thomas the Tank Engine? Gru and the Minions? Topman Hatt? Carlos Danger? Long John Silver and Co?
What are you dealing with here? Impeccably dressed rogues and ladies? A scurvy band of Scalawags and Scalawaggettes? Your mental superiors? The dancing queen? Thomas the Tank Engine? Gru and the Minions? Topman Hatt? Carlos Danger? Long John Silver and Co?
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at July 20, 2015 02:48 PM (YI+0n)
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That Pat in Mich. is my kinda guy! Do you drive a Lamborghini, Pat?
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at July 20, 2015 02:48 PM (Dwehj)
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/20/wesley-clark-on-radicalized-americans-le
Posted by: pforeman at July 20, 2015 02:48 PM (GIcyF)
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JackStraw - listened to Walker's interview on Beck's show last week. Very strong and handled it like a pro.
Off topic - watching the ospreys on the webcam - they are getting big!
Off topic - watching the ospreys on the webcam - they are getting big!
Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2015 02:48 PM (oiNtH)
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I'd at least like to see SOMEONE take a crack at it. Everyone else is just rolling over on their backs with legs spread. I'm ready for pitchforks and torches.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (2Ee1I)
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Without Trump, we'd be getting "politics as usual". The repubs trying to play nice guys (dem-lite) and the dems/MFM playing hardball.
I'm sick of it. I want an asshole that loves my country as the next prez. Because that's what it's going to take to get this country back to some semblance of what we are. And, so far, I haven't seen it from any of the other repub candidates.
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 02:39 PM (2Ee1I)
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Without Trump, we'd be getting "politics as usual". The repubs trying to play nice guys (dem-lite) and the dems/MFM playing hardball.
I'm sick of it. I want an asshole that loves my country as the next prez. Because that's what it's going to take to get this country back to some semblance of what we are. And, so far, I haven't seen it from any of the other repub candidates.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2015 02:48 PM (P25Hh)
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If you grant me that Trump is a clown I grant youthat all the Dems in race ie HIllary are clowns also.
Difference being the MSM will cover Hillary. The Republican candidate has to be so good they overcome the media handicap.
Trump is Sideshow Bob. Sideshow Bob is a smart character. Venal and sociopathic also, just like Trump. His ego gets him. His inability to control his impulses . . . get the picture. Sure he sounds good at times, then he does or says something horrendous and you see what he really is, a sideshowclown.
This is notto say there is a viable republican candidate that isgood enough to overcome the media. There isn't. That does not change the fact that Trump is unelectable.
If you grant me that Trump is a clown I grant youthat all the Dems in race ie HIllary are clowns also.
Difference being the MSM will cover Hillary. The Republican candidate has to be so good they overcome the media handicap.
Trump is Sideshow Bob. Sideshow Bob is a smart character. Venal and sociopathic also, just like Trump. His ego gets him. His inability to control his impulses . . . get the picture. Sure he sounds good at times, then he does or says something horrendous and you see what he really is, a sideshowclown.
This is notto say there is a viable republican candidate that isgood enough to overcome the media. There isn't. That does not change the fact that Trump is unelectable.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 02:49 PM (5vV+V)
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Trump is a rich target, every blogger, media personality will be trying to find a way to be the one who finally brings him down. They aren't in it for the news, they are in it for their self-glorification.
Trump probably appreciates that and so he'll continue to give them the chance.
Trump probably appreciates that and so he'll continue to give them the chance.
Posted by: doug at July 20, 2015 02:49 PM (IYEs/)
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Perry's one of my guys, but yeesh-
he is getting awful advice.
Once again he seems to be self-destructing with this Trump dealio of all things.
Is there no one running for the GOP nom who's smart enough to piggyback onto Trump's issues-
smarten them up and make them their own?
he is getting awful advice.
Once again he seems to be self-destructing with this Trump dealio of all things.
Is there no one running for the GOP nom who's smart enough to piggyback onto Trump's issues-
smarten them up and make them their own?
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 02:49 PM (0cMkb)
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So what? Kennedy was a sex addict and a pretend Catholic, LBJ was the Devil himself, Nixon was a liar and cheat, Ford was from Michigan, Carter a flake, Reagan had a fag for a son, Bush Senior was married to George Washington, Clinton was a sodomite, Bush Junior was dumb, and Barry is Islamic. No one is perfect and in the land of the free loader and mobile home of the EBT, President Trump sounds good to me.
Posted by: Hillary with a Wang! at July 20, 2015 02:49 PM (D0NZx)
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What's up with the new trolls?
Posted by: Moderate Salami
The lefties are summer children. School is out.
What's up with the new trolls?
Posted by: Moderate Salami
The lefties are summer children. School is out.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 02:50 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 20, 2015 02:50 PM (7YlUk)
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>>Off topic - watching the ospreys on the webcam - they are getting big!
They grow so fast (sniffle). Soon they will be out grabbing fish and terrorizing the neighborhood.
I drove by this morning and you can see their heads poking up from the nest. They really are growing fast.
They grow so fast (sniffle). Soon they will be out grabbing fish and terrorizing the neighborhood.
I drove by this morning and you can see their heads poking up from the nest. They really are growing fast.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 02:51 PM (OGm46)
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Ace,
Any change of a threat on the Cuba embassy opening?
Posted by: The Political Hat
There's been a threat against the Cuban embassy! I read it on the INterwebz!!
Ace,
Any change of a threat on the Cuba embassy opening?
Posted by: The Political Hat
There's been a threat against the Cuban embassy! I read it on the INterwebz!!
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 02:51 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Garrett at July 20, 2015 02:51 PM (u8PjN)
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Oh, he's very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
One of the very few moments I enjoyed in that vastly overrated film.
Trump is a rich target, every blogger, media personality will be trying to find a way to be the one who finally brings him down.
Waste of time, he'll take himself down. Eventually he'll say something that will enrage his last supporters.
One of the very few moments I enjoyed in that vastly overrated film.
Trump is a rich target, every blogger, media personality will be trying to find a way to be the one who finally brings him down.
Waste of time, he'll take himself down. Eventually he'll say something that will enrage his last supporters.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 02:51 PM (39g3+)
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267 What's up with the new trolls?
Posted by: Moderate Salami
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Who are you calling a troll?!? Troll!
Posted by: Moderate Salami
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Who are you calling a troll?!? Troll!
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (LGFTn)
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Beltway Bandit with deep connections to the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Anna, you forgot his triumphant "manly" cover shoot for 'The Advocate" Magazine during his failed run for President.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Anna, you forgot his triumphant "manly" cover shoot for 'The Advocate" Magazine during his failed run for President.
Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (oiNtH)
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Nood music thread.
Posted by: joey biden at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (kivUY)
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I like Walker's CV and I want him to do well but the progs are going to hammer his lack of a college degree like a frat boy on a passed-out coed.
(That said, he does have some backbone. The way he handled the confrontation arranged in Iowa was exactly right, IMHO.)
(That said, he does have some backbone. The way he handled the confrontation arranged in Iowa was exactly right, IMHO.)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (RD7QR)
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>So is his real failing here
Let's jettison theology for a second. His real failing is to suggest, whether he believes in God or not, that he's never had a private moment, where he was sorry to his conscience of his very concept of good, of anything that he did which didn't live up to the good.
It tells me that he is fundamentally not someone I want to have control of the US. Regardless of what we think about God, there should always be a time, when you've looked in the mirror, and to your conscience said "I was a POS for doing that, I need to be better because it's the right thing to do, and the right person to be".
Let's jettison theology for a second. His real failing is to suggest, whether he believes in God or not, that he's never had a private moment, where he was sorry to his conscience of his very concept of good, of anything that he did which didn't live up to the good.
It tells me that he is fundamentally not someone I want to have control of the US. Regardless of what we think about God, there should always be a time, when you've looked in the mirror, and to your conscience said "I was a POS for doing that, I need to be better because it's the right thing to do, and the right person to be".
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (HrPhZ)
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at this point, deliverance is deliverance...
and NO priest or pious bastard, imho, is going to deliver us.
We need a dog to bite a dog.
Trump is a dog..some say he is a clown dog. Who the Fuck cares?
We DO know that Trump will bite.....
and NO priest or pious bastard, imho, is going to deliver us.
We need a dog to bite a dog.
Trump is a dog..some say he is a clown dog. Who the Fuck cares?
We DO know that Trump will bite.....
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (7GI9v)
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Howard's short-lived campaign for NY Gov in 1994 was hilarious while it lasted. He hammered Cuomo on a daily basis and actually had many reasonable positions. It was too bad he got BDS in 2004 and went full Dem.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (OD2ni)
Howard Stern could be the best defender of free speech ever, but I think he's given up on that. He basically just does interviews now.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 20, 2015 02:42 PM (OD2ni)
Howard Stern could be the best defender of free speech ever, but I think he's given up on that. He basically just does interviews now.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (m9wUQ)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (/Ho8c)
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The media hates us. The GOP hates us. Hollywood hates us. And my brain has told me over and over I can't do anything about it...so, for now, Trump is my something. I don't care what he says. Give 'em hell Teflon. That's all I want. And make sure it leaves a mark. Burn it for all I care.
Posted by: rivahgurl at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (PlDWl)
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What's up with the new trolls?
Posted by: Moderate Salami
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Who are you calling a troll?!? Troll!
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (LGFTn)
A more convincing response would be "Who are you calling 'new'?"
Posted by: Moderate Salami
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Who are you calling a troll?!? Troll!
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2015 02:52 PM (LGFTn)
A more convincing response would be "Who are you calling 'new'?"
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (TOk1P)
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smarten them up and make them their own?
Walker handled an "ambush" by some illegals at a press event pretty well...
Walker handled an "ambush" by some illegals at a press event pretty well...
Posted by: GMan at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (sxq57)
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"So who is this deeply thoughtful, Christian, well-spoken, self-funded, popular conservative Presidential candidate who is so consistent on immigration, the Constitution and reversing America's decline into socialism that everyone seems to be comparing Trump to?
Hoping you guys are seeing someone that I am not. "
^this^
Unless and until some other candidate unasses and delivers something better than focus-grouped mealymouthing generalities, Trump is a leading contender for my vote.
Sick of being bull$hitted & boldfaced lied to.
Hoping you guys are seeing someone that I am not. "
^this^
Unless and until some other candidate unasses and delivers something better than focus-grouped mealymouthing generalities, Trump is a leading contender for my vote.
Sick of being bull$hitted & boldfaced lied to.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (go6ud)
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Trump is so obviously a troll that we are comfortable to troll along with him in strong approval.
The time to repudiate him has not come.
The time to repudiate him has not come.
Posted by: meekle at July 20, 2015 02:53 PM (94iKh)
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"That Pat in Mich. is my kinda guy! Do you drive a Lamborghini, Pat?"
Amen. Please ask Pat if he can pass the Grey Poupon.
"That Pat in Mich. is my kinda guy! Do you drive a Lamborghini, Pat?"
Amen. Please ask Pat if he can pass the Grey Poupon.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (OD2ni)
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And wouldn't it be great if at the Inauguration Trump told Obama "You're fired!"
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
Yes, this is all a Reality TV Show and has absolutely no affect on people's freedoms and livelihood. Hoo boy, yeah, get the popcorn!
Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2015 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
Yes, this is all a Reality TV Show and has absolutely no affect on people's freedoms and livelihood. Hoo boy, yeah, get the popcorn!
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (laMCB)
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JackStraw: I check on them every morning and night.....it will be a sad day when our little ones fly away.
Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (oiNtH)
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>>>The "Let's not be tribal" argument smells too much like "You don't be tribal, but we'll continue to be just as tribal as we want." One day we're getting lectured on how one group's tribal markers scare off another group. The next day it's we shouldn't be tribal.
not sure how you see these things as some kind of logical contradiction, but I do know that people will cling bitterly to their tribal signifiers.
not sure how you see these things as some kind of logical contradiction, but I do know that people will cling bitterly to their tribal signifiers.
Posted by: ace at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (bhepQ)
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I think the only thing that can bring him down is if he apologizes.
He can explain, excuse, rationalize, ignore and elide but he'll be okay as long as he doesn't apologize.
At least that's my red line.
But even if he does, he's still amusing as heck.
Watching the media it's like pouring water on an ant hill.
They don't know what to do.
He can explain, excuse, rationalize, ignore and elide but he'll be okay as long as he doesn't apologize.
At least that's my red line.
But even if he does, he's still amusing as heck.
Watching the media it's like pouring water on an ant hill.
They don't know what to do.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:54 PM (x3GpS)
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the idiot Perry puts his glasses on and jumps in on the side of McCain in a desperate attempt to get on the debate platform.
Posted by: jwest
Yep, Perry shot his foot off again.
Posted by: wrg500
Wait -- let me 'splain!
Posted by: Gov Rick "Thrilled to be Pilled" Perry
the idiot Perry puts his glasses on and jumps in on the side of McCain in a desperate attempt to get on the debate platform.
Posted by: jwest
Yep, Perry shot his foot off again.
Posted by: wrg500
Wait -- let me 'splain!
Posted by: Gov Rick "Thrilled to be Pilled" Perry
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (kdS6q)
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AND it's good TV.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (x3GpS)
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This is exciting
Posted by: theTruth at July 20, 2015 02:55 PM (Bbcs8)
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elieve you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
How many bong hits did you take before hearing these chilling discussions? I've heard tell that those voices in your head can be really compelling.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
How many bong hits did you take before hearing these chilling discussions? I've heard tell that those voices in your head can be really compelling.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (q5APL)
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Wesley Clarke is perfect for leading a detention camp. Look at the great job he did in Bosniamurdering people who were guilty of a muslim genocide that never took place. Sweet...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 02:56 PM (aHX05)
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Guy Mohawk: "It is very weird to me that such a good guv as Perry was runs terrible presidential campaigns."
Because Texas is considered a constitutionally weak governor state. The legislature and Lt. Gov. wield considerable authority. To be fair, though, Perry did cultivate good rapport with his selected appointees who went on to lead state commissions.
But, yeah, Perry has run very weak national campaigns. In Texas his transition from Democrat to successful Republican was due to an electorate moving increasingly Republican. He was lead by the electorate more so than the inverse.
Because Texas is considered a constitutionally weak governor state. The legislature and Lt. Gov. wield considerable authority. To be fair, though, Perry did cultivate good rapport with his selected appointees who went on to lead state commissions.
But, yeah, Perry has run very weak national campaigns. In Texas his transition from Democrat to successful Republican was due to an electorate moving increasingly Republican. He was lead by the electorate more so than the inverse.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (1CroS)
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I've heard tell that those voices in your head can be really compelling.
Don't pin this on us, we just tell him that the Post Office is spying on him in the shower.
Don't pin this on us, we just tell him that the Post Office is spying on him in the shower.
Posted by: The voices in Patrick's head. at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (4WhSY)
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Meathead:
Funny thing is I think you're right. Or could be right.
But we'd have one big motherfucking classy wall on the border, and that's good enough for me!
Funny thing is I think you're right. Or could be right.
But we'd have one big motherfucking classy wall on the border, and that's good enough for me!
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 02:59 PM (q5APL)
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Just have to say that 51 percent to win, initially, is antiquated thinking given the size of the GOP filed. You need a bloc of delegates---to either make it go your way or to be kingmaker.....
I put serious money on Trumo as Kingmaker.
I put serious money on Trumo as Kingmaker.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (7GI9v)
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Weasely Clark's CV
Vietnam era.
Speaks Russian
Was an almost unknown commander when Waco happened.
Was SACUER for the Yugoslavia mess including bombing the PRC embassy and almost getting NATO in a shooting war with Russia.
Failed Presidential candidate.
Beltway Bandit with deep connections to the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zABgu)
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You forgot the most important parts: Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas.
Weasely Clark's CV
Vietnam era.
Speaks Russian
Was an almost unknown commander when Waco happened.
Was SACUER for the Yugoslavia mess including bombing the PRC embassy and almost getting NATO in a shooting war with Russia.
Failed Presidential candidate.
Beltway Bandit with deep connections to the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zABgu)
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You forgot the most important parts: Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 20, 2015 03:00 PM (5f5bM)
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>>JackStraw: I check on them every morning and night.....it will be a sad day when our little ones fly away.
True, but the cycle will continue next year. They've had this nest and camera for a few years now and every year they return to have babies.
True, but the cycle will continue next year. They've had this nest and camera for a few years now and every year they return to have babies.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (OGm46)
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I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
LMAO, srsly Cruz's conduct and fights with the Left make you equate That with religion?
I do not want the United States of America to become the Christian Version of an Islamic Republic with it's own version of Sharia Law.
Believe you me; if some on the extreme Christian right had their way, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims, would be herded into camps and told, convert or die. and their dead bodies would be shipped back to their homelands.
I've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
LMAO, srsly Cruz's conduct and fights with the Left make you equate That with religion?
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (nqBYe)
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"Circular firing squad. Do you guys go after Biden this hard? How about Obama?"
They like to sit and moan about SMOD and wallow in the Uniparty ass-raping them.
Tell me who in Washington isn't a buffoon?
Tell me which candidates are not beholden to their lobbyist and donors - foreign and domestic?
They like to sit and moan about SMOD and wallow in the Uniparty ass-raping them.
Tell me who in Washington isn't a buffoon?
Tell me which candidates are not beholden to their lobbyist and donors - foreign and domestic?
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 20, 2015 03:01 PM (Ixbid)
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The "rakes" line is the best way to describe Trump. That, and he has enough money to paper over any f*ck up, so he doesn't really learn from the f*ck up to avoid future f*ck ups.
Trump wanted to zing McCain, to hurt McCain, like calling him old or fat ("I don't like fatties", or old people, etc.) But Trump is such a blowhard that his off the cuff insult can actually be taken as an insult of all POWs. Did Trump actually mean or intend to insult all POWs? Maybe, but I don't think so, I think he meant to hurt McCain. But he didn't give any thought to it, like a bar insult.
People are justifiably sensitive to the POW aspect, but beyond that, toughen up. Trump's an egotistical blowhard. He has no control over govt. POWs are made of sterner stuff that your average SJW, so let's not presume to speak for all of them with our own offended natures. I'm more "offended" by the VA's death panels/lists and shitty levels of care, frankly.
If you don't like Trump, don't support him - don't give him attention, because that's what he wants. The media, and even Ace, does this and then bitches that Trump has the spotlight. Guess what - WE are the spotlight. It's like that Simpsons song in the Attack of the 50 Foot Ads, - "Just Don't Look, Just Don't Look".
It's what I said before - if the Republicans want Trump to go away, actually address the topics he raises (illegal immigration) with fire and leadership instead of milling around rubbing toes in the dust or outright opposing them. If they can't then that tells ya something about them.
Trump wanted to zing McCain, to hurt McCain, like calling him old or fat ("I don't like fatties", or old people, etc.) But Trump is such a blowhard that his off the cuff insult can actually be taken as an insult of all POWs. Did Trump actually mean or intend to insult all POWs? Maybe, but I don't think so, I think he meant to hurt McCain. But he didn't give any thought to it, like a bar insult.
People are justifiably sensitive to the POW aspect, but beyond that, toughen up. Trump's an egotistical blowhard. He has no control over govt. POWs are made of sterner stuff that your average SJW, so let's not presume to speak for all of them with our own offended natures. I'm more "offended" by the VA's death panels/lists and shitty levels of care, frankly.
If you don't like Trump, don't support him - don't give him attention, because that's what he wants. The media, and even Ace, does this and then bitches that Trump has the spotlight. Guess what - WE are the spotlight. It's like that Simpsons song in the Attack of the 50 Foot Ads, - "Just Don't Look, Just Don't Look".
It's what I said before - if the Republicans want Trump to go away, actually address the topics he raises (illegal immigration) with fire and leadership instead of milling around rubbing toes in the dust or outright opposing them. If they can't then that tells ya something about them.
Posted by: Saltydonnie at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (i6shs)
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Don't pin this on us, we just tell him that the Post Office is spying on him in the shower.
Posted by: The voices in Patrick's head. at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (4WhSY)
The Post office really does spy on people in the shower.
But only if they're named Patrick and they live in Michigan, so I'm all cool with it.
Posted by: The voices in Patrick's head. at July 20, 2015 02:58 PM (4WhSY)
The Post office really does spy on people in the shower.
But only if they're named Patrick and they live in Michigan, so I'm all cool with it.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 20, 2015 03:02 PM (u0lmX)
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well cuz i'm afeared of religious folks Imma gonna let the Left have the country.
They really meet the needs of a secular, (religious wack jobs like gaia and state worshippers)america.
They really meet the needs of a secular, (religious wack jobs like gaia and state worshippers)america.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:03 PM (nqBYe)
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Donald Trump is beholden to NO ONE.
And this is very difficult for most people to comprehend.
Complaining about the total crap we have in this country now and then measuring Trump by the same moldy old rulers is a fool's errand.
Original thought scares most people to death.
When someone truly thinks outside the box it frightens the weak and insecure.
Get over it.
You want change?
Understand what that means.
Burma Shave
And this is very difficult for most people to comprehend.
Complaining about the total crap we have in this country now and then measuring Trump by the same moldy old rulers is a fool's errand.
Original thought scares most people to death.
When someone truly thinks outside the box it frightens the weak and insecure.
Get over it.
You want change?
Understand what that means.
Burma Shave
Posted by: ouch at July 20, 2015 03:04 PM (zYgqi)
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anyhoo i'm glad Trump is making the left and right uncomfortable, perhaps it will push the right to listen to Its voters.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
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2016 is Obama's 3rd term. Hillary=Jebtard...it doesn't matter...
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (aHX05)
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naturalfake: "Is there no one running for the GOP nom who's smart enough to piggyback onto Trump's issues-
smarten them up and make them their own?"
Would you trust them? Why?
They've had plenty of opportunity to speak up. They didn't. Which means it's a dishonest pander from weak-willed politicians. At best you'll get mealy-mouthed platitudes of nothingburgers which translates to exactly zero once the office is attained. Then their true sentiments - that which they've been hiding - come out and it will be too late. Their "growth" in office will bloom and snuff your voice out.
smarten them up and make them their own?"
Would you trust them? Why?
They've had plenty of opportunity to speak up. They didn't. Which means it's a dishonest pander from weak-willed politicians. At best you'll get mealy-mouthed platitudes of nothingburgers which translates to exactly zero once the office is attained. Then their true sentiments - that which they've been hiding - come out and it will be too late. Their "growth" in office will bloom and snuff your voice out.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (1CroS)
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Donald Trump is beholden to a lot of creditors but seems to skate on that a lot.
A president is beholden to the constitution and the voters. We don't want one that thinks he can skate on that, like the one we have NOW.
Donald Trump is beholden to a lot of creditors but seems to skate on that a lot.
A president is beholden to the constitution and the voters. We don't want one that thinks he can skate on that, like the one we have NOW.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (5vV+V)
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Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at July 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cudF1)
Is this the same clown who a couple of weeks ago was talking about breaking arms and roving gangs of Christians what were forcing conversion on everyone they met?
If not, his modus operandi sure is the same.
Is this the same clown who a couple of weeks ago was talking about breaking arms and roving gangs of Christians what were forcing conversion on everyone they met?
If not, his modus operandi sure is the same.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (0cMkb)
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339 anyhoo i'm glad Trump is making the left and right uncomfortable, perhaps it will push the right [I think you mean the GOPe] to listen to Its voters.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
Yes, and Skittle-sh*tting unicorns will appear today in my back yard.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
Yes, and Skittle-sh*tting unicorns will appear today in my back yard.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at July 20, 2015 03:06 PM (laMCB)
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I would hope the GOP takes a lesson from this b.s.
and realizes how absolutely pissed off the constituents are.
and realizes how absolutely pissed off the constituents are.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:07 PM (nqBYe)
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"And on that -- this is why his McCain answer bothers me. He just doesn't seem to be able to anticipate these big
problems coming with his answers. He keeps telling me he's a bright
guy, but then he steps on to a bunch of rakes of his own making."
* * *
Exactly why some of us believe he's doing exactly what he was sent out to do. The man simply is not THAT stupid.
problems coming with his answers. He keeps telling me he's a bright
guy, but then he steps on to a bunch of rakes of his own making."
* * *
Exactly why some of us believe he's doing exactly what he was sent out to do. The man simply is not THAT stupid.
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (bGLSw)
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>>Donald Trump is beholden to NO ONE.
Trump has made a shitload of his fortune through crony deals with various government officials, thus the $100,000 donation to Clinton. It's amusing as hell to watch people who know nothing at all about Trump claim he is some sort of Horatio Alger story.
Trump has made a shitload of his fortune through crony deals with various government officials, thus the $100,000 donation to Clinton. It's amusing as hell to watch people who know nothing at all about Trump claim he is some sort of Horatio Alger story.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (OGm46)
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Hey man, I ran into a Christian press gang last weekend while I was half soused outside a strip bar. They chased me for blocks and I had to dive into the Cuyahoga River to escape them.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (5vV+V)
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I think I might be the mayor of the McCain crazies, or the president. Whatever. I know I am the #1 Crazy! Go me!
Posted by: rivahgurl at July 20, 2015 03:08 PM (PlDWl)
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Hurricane i'd like to bet you they'd wisen up, but yeah i'm not convinced they want their cake and ours too.
If that means they become the minority but most of them stay at the public trough, yeah
but at least sticking a woopy cushion on their chairs is fun.
If that means they become the minority but most of them stay at the public trough, yeah
but at least sticking a woopy cushion on their chairs is fun.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:10 PM (nqBYe)
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stupid.gop.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:11 PM (nqBYe)
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349 I was being sarcastic. The closest encounter to such a thing was two, very nice, middle aged gentle ladies came to my door handing out literature for the Seventh day Adventist. I told them "we're catholic" and they wished me well and scampered on over to the next house.
Oh the horrors. (Sarc)
349 I was being sarcastic. The closest encounter to such a thing was two, very nice, middle aged gentle ladies came to my door handing out literature for the Seventh day Adventist. I told them "we're catholic" and they wished me well and scampered on over to the next house.
Oh the horrors. (Sarc)
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (5vV+V)
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339 anyhoo i'm glad Trump is making the left and right uncomfortable, perhaps it will push the right to listen to Its voters.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
That would be nice. But I doubt it will happen. Its been obvious for awhile that their view is "Shut up and vote for who we tell you to, and we know you will because we do everything to ensure you have no other option."
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 03:05 PM (nqBYe)
That would be nice. But I doubt it will happen. Its been obvious for awhile that their view is "Shut up and vote for who we tell you to, and we know you will because we do everything to ensure you have no other option."
Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (zt+N6)
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353
349 I was being sarcastic. The closest encounter to such a thing was two, very nice, middle aged gentle ladies came to my door handing out literature for the Seventh day Adventist. I told them "we're catholic" and they wished me well and scampered on over to the next house.
Oh the horrors. (Sarc)
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (5vV+V)
Something like that would throw Moo Moo into a bigoted rage.
349 I was being sarcastic. The closest encounter to such a thing was two, very nice, middle aged gentle ladies came to my door handing out literature for the Seventh day Adventist. I told them "we're catholic" and they wished me well and scampered on over to the next house.
Oh the horrors. (Sarc)
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:13 PM (5vV+V)
Something like that would throw Moo Moo into a bigoted rage.
Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2015 03:14 PM (zt+N6)
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"AND I'VE NEVER ASKED TRUMP FOR A LOAN"
Posted by: The Almighty at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (5vV+V)
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The publican beat his breast and said, "Have mercy upon me, a sinner!" so his stance is unorthodox.
That said, I hope this doesn't alienate any conservative religious people. This is the advantage the left have over us. They lack integrity, and so when they see Obama claiming to be Christian, they know their own. They know it's a pile of horseshit and vote for him anyway. Conservatives sometimes have an over scrupulousity: for example angsting over Mitt Romney being Mormon.
They fail to realize even the most conservative can allow themselves to vote for the *better* candidate. There's nothing in the Bible that speaks to that.
That said, I hope this doesn't alienate any conservative religious people. This is the advantage the left have over us. They lack integrity, and so when they see Obama claiming to be Christian, they know their own. They know it's a pile of horseshit and vote for him anyway. Conservatives sometimes have an over scrupulousity: for example angsting over Mitt Romney being Mormon.
They fail to realize even the most conservative can allow themselves to vote for the *better* candidate. There's nothing in the Bible that speaks to that.
Posted by: Michael E. Mann at July 20, 2015 03:15 PM (E5UB0)
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The GOP could care less about it's voters. My rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers,number 4 in congress, gladly tells us how she will fight Obama (Benghazi,IRS,Obamacare,Obamatrade,Cromnibus,etc)but then folds and does the opposite. She loves to shake your right hand and shit in your left hand. She's typical of what we are against.
Posted by: NYDOLLS at July 20, 2015 03:16 PM (aHX05)
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There are only a few things in this world that are absolute.
Death.
Taxes.
Gravity.
And here's one thing you can add to the list...
If Trump somehow got elected president, there would be a fence built between Mexico and the U.S. so fast it will make your head spin.
It will be ahead of schedule and under budget.
So fast and smooth people will be asking why it wasn't done decades ago.
Trump would probably go on to fuck up everything else, but the fence would be built and working.
Sure as shit.
Death.
Taxes.
Gravity.
And here's one thing you can add to the list...
If Trump somehow got elected president, there would be a fence built between Mexico and the U.S. so fast it will make your head spin.
It will be ahead of schedule and under budget.
So fast and smooth people will be asking why it wasn't done decades ago.
Trump would probably go on to fuck up everything else, but the fence would be built and working.
Sure as shit.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 03:19 PM (P/xrJ)
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But hey, at least I'm not sitting in a church listening to some 'preacher' saying 'God damn America.'"***
That's the kind of response the GOP or conservatives need to work on.
___
They don't need to be running against the current president.
That's the kind of response the GOP or conservatives need to work on.
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They don't need to be running against the current president.
Posted by: m at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (ew6hg)
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Yeah we've got a problem.
Its like we keep buying season tickets to a team that loses all the time and won't spend money on talent.The team ownershipnever gets the message that this isn't good enough because we keep buying tickets. The teamkeeps losing, but they still earn a living in the system. Its not like they only makemoney if they win. They don't really care about the winning, they just want to keep the system spinning so they get a paycheck.
Yeah we've got a problem.
Its like we keep buying season tickets to a team that loses all the time and won't spend money on talent.The team ownershipnever gets the message that this isn't good enough because we keep buying tickets. The teamkeeps losing, but they still earn a living in the system. Its not like they only makemoney if they win. They don't really care about the winning, they just want to keep the system spinning so they get a paycheck.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:20 PM (5vV+V)
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359
There are only a few things in this world that are absolute.
Death.
Taxes.
Gravity.
And here's one thing you can add to the list...
If Trump somehow got elected president, there would be a fence built
between Mexico and the U.S. so fast it will make your head spin.
It will be ahead of schedule and under budget.
So fast and smooth people will be asking why it wasn't done decades ago.
Trump would probably go on to fuck up everything else, but the fence would be built and working.
Sure as shit.
* * *
That'd solve only part of the problem. What about the illegals that are already here? Has he said what he'd do about that (I don't know, so I'm asking).
There are only a few things in this world that are absolute.
Death.
Taxes.
Gravity.
And here's one thing you can add to the list...
If Trump somehow got elected president, there would be a fence built
between Mexico and the U.S. so fast it will make your head spin.
It will be ahead of schedule and under budget.
So fast and smooth people will be asking why it wasn't done decades ago.
Trump would probably go on to fuck up everything else, but the fence would be built and working.
Sure as shit.
* * *
That'd solve only part of the problem. What about the illegals that are already here? Has he said what he'd do about that (I don't know, so I'm asking).
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (bGLSw)
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And on that -- this is why his McCain answer bothers me. He just doesn't seem to be able to anticipate these big problems coming with his answers. He keeps telling me he's a bright guy, but then he steps on to a bunch of rakes of his own making.
Posted by: Ace at 01:55 PM
Perhaps, as an actual Alpha, he sees his objective and is going for it, while ignoring the things he recognizes as unimportant, which only become important if he confesses to having mis-stepped and seeks social forgiveness. Perhaps he understands something about human nature and communication that you (and admittedly I) do not, and is operating on a higher plane of leadership than you or I really even recognize exists.
Posted by: Ace at 01:55 PM
Perhaps, as an actual Alpha, he sees his objective and is going for it, while ignoring the things he recognizes as unimportant, which only become important if he confesses to having mis-stepped and seeks social forgiveness. Perhaps he understands something about human nature and communication that you (and admittedly I) do not, and is operating on a higher plane of leadership than you or I really even recognize exists.
Posted by: Sambo at July 20, 2015 03:24 PM (9UV3C)
364
Walker is the establishment's top choice. You will see this soon enough.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at July 20, 2015 03:26 PM (z8IzG)
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That'd solve only part of the problem. What about the illegals that are already here? Has he said what he'd do about that (I don't know, so I'm asking).
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (bGLSw)
I don't think anyone knows what he would do then. From what he's said before, I would expect him to deport criminals and let the others stay with permanent residency, but not citizenship.
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 03:23 PM (bGLSw)
I don't think anyone knows what he would do then. From what he's said before, I would expect him to deport criminals and let the others stay with permanent residency, but not citizenship.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (P/xrJ)
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Trump has no shot at all.
Your best bet is to build your own fence around you own house. Do it now before they outlaw it. Not kidding.
Trump has no shot at all.
Your best bet is to build your own fence around you own house. Do it now before they outlaw it. Not kidding.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:27 PM (5vV+V)
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#359 jwest...Totally agree.
In fact , the USA would be the fence/wall building capital of the world. . After Trump got thorough with Mexico we'd be exporting walls like Saudi Arabia exports oil.
Unfortunately it has been SO long since there was an American who lives his country and at the same time did and does not give a fuck about the media that no one knows what to make of Trump.
Braveheart...remember Braveheart.
In fact , the USA would be the fence/wall building capital of the world. . After Trump got thorough with Mexico we'd be exporting walls like Saudi Arabia exports oil.
Unfortunately it has been SO long since there was an American who lives his country and at the same time did and does not give a fuck about the media that no one knows what to make of Trump.
Braveheart...remember Braveheart.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (7GI9v)
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Trump fights and counter punches
Remember how Dole wet his pants when Jim Lehrer asked him to talk about clintons character?
Or when McCain wouldn't bring up wright
Or Romney let himself be manhandled by Crowley
If trumps not the answers find another fighter
Remember how Dole wet his pants when Jim Lehrer asked him to talk about clintons character?
Or when McCain wouldn't bring up wright
Or Romney let himself be manhandled by Crowley
If trumps not the answers find another fighter
Posted by: Avi at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (j5dbY)
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McCain is a senile, vile, liar. And s shitty combat pilot saved from a dishonorable discharge because his father and grandfather were admirals.
McCain wants to destroy the US, just like Obama.
McCain wants to destroy the US, just like Obama.
Posted by: Jack at July 20, 2015 03:28 PM (53CCM)
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Notice how all the MSM , RNC etc attacks like a cabal?
Posted by: Avi at July 20, 2015 03:29 PM (j5dbY)
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Trump as no shot. He's getting a soft pass until the republican nomination is overas the mediahopes that he wins it. Then he's getting the full Sarah Palin treatment. He's not electable.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:30 PM (5vV+V)
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2.5 million and counting. And those are just the relatively recent ones. They're still coming.
http://tinyurl.com/or5vep3
http://tinyurl.com/or5vep3
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 03:31 PM (bGLSw)
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Fantastic quip that rake one!
Posted by: RobC at July 20, 2015 03:34 PM (P8ZzJ)
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On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a republicanso I would never vote for him."
So yeah, I think the fact that he's a rino "trumps" he lack of divinity school cred. Whichdivinity school cred, didn't help Gore much did it?
On one hand, I really hate this tribalistic nonsense where people say "He's not a republicanso I would never vote for him."
So yeah, I think the fact that he's a rino "trumps" he lack of divinity school cred. Whichdivinity school cred, didn't help Gore much did it?
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:35 PM (5vV+V)
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I regret trifling with married women. I'm thoroughly ashamed at cheating at cards. I deplore my occasional departures from the truth. Forgive me for taking your name in vain, my Saturday drunkenness, my Sunday sloth. Above all, forgive me for the men I've killed in anger ... and those I am about to.
That's about the best asking for forgiveness I've heard.
I regret trifling with married women. I'm thoroughly ashamed at cheating at cards. I deplore my occasional departures from the truth. Forgive me for taking your name in vain, my Saturday drunkenness, my Sunday sloth. Above all, forgive me for the men I've killed in anger ... and those I am about to.
That's about the best asking for forgiveness I've heard.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 20, 2015 03:36 PM (1hM1d)
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Seriously, if you people want a protest candidate. Somebody get Eastwood into the race. Trump is weak sauce. Weak. Sauce.
Posted by: simplemind at July 20, 2015 03:38 PM (5vV+V)
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Eastwood's a bit lefty yet.
He didn't like Obama is all.
Too many people conflate the rolls actors/actresses play with how they really are.
He didn't like Obama is all.
Too many people conflate the rolls actors/actresses play with how they really are.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 03:40 PM (x3GpS)
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"Then he's getting the full Sarah Palin treatment. He's not electable."
Tell me, which candidates aren't going to get the full Sarah Palin treatment? I've got news for you every single one of them will get it in spades. And Sarah didn't have much in closets except a pregnant teenage daughter.
They had 12-22 people going through her trash, that creepy author, Joe McGuinness, move in next door.
If you think your candidate won't get the same treatment then your candidate is on their team already.
Tell me, which candidates aren't going to get the full Sarah Palin treatment? I've got news for you every single one of them will get it in spades. And Sarah didn't have much in closets except a pregnant teenage daughter.
They had 12-22 people going through her trash, that creepy author, Joe McGuinness, move in next door.
If you think your candidate won't get the same treatment then your candidate is on their team already.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 20, 2015 03:41 PM (Ixbid)
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We conservatives are still fighting battles that were lost long ago, like illegal immigration.
If Trump was a Democrat plant I can't imagine what he would do differently. I don't think he is a plant, though we'll only know that if he doesn't go third party. I think he knows how to push buttons and likes to hear himself talk.
He's got Republicans attacking him rather than Democrats. He's giving the media plenty of ammo to blast Republicans. He's only leading in the polls because most people aren't even paying attention yet.
I like his stances, but I don't think he's helping.
The fact that some people are excited about his anti-illegals stance is meaningless. The majority of the country is OK with amnesty and it while it will be talked about a lot, it won't change anyone's vote in the general. People have already made up their minds and the majority is OK with amnesty. Most will vote based on other issues.
Trump is a Republican version of Howard Dean. Lots of sound and fury which will quickly dissipate when the primary voting starts.
If Trump was a Democrat plant I can't imagine what he would do differently. I don't think he is a plant, though we'll only know that if he doesn't go third party. I think he knows how to push buttons and likes to hear himself talk.
He's got Republicans attacking him rather than Democrats. He's giving the media plenty of ammo to blast Republicans. He's only leading in the polls because most people aren't even paying attention yet.
I like his stances, but I don't think he's helping.
The fact that some people are excited about his anti-illegals stance is meaningless. The majority of the country is OK with amnesty and it while it will be talked about a lot, it won't change anyone's vote in the general. People have already made up their minds and the majority is OK with amnesty. Most will vote based on other issues.
Trump is a Republican version of Howard Dean. Lots of sound and fury which will quickly dissipate when the primary voting starts.
Posted by: Lurking In The Wilderness at July 20, 2015 03:42 PM (1Y+hH)
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Not sure if anyone answered your implied question.
No, taking communion is not the same as asking for forgiveness. Communion is done in remembrance of Christ's suffering on our behalf. Nothing more than that. Ideally, it should be coupled with an honest prayer of forgiveness, but going through the motions of drinking and eating are merely a ritual that does not impart any significance unless wedded with reflection and prayer.
No, taking communion is not the same as asking for forgiveness. Communion is done in remembrance of Christ's suffering on our behalf. Nothing more than that. Ideally, it should be coupled with an honest prayer of forgiveness, but going through the motions of drinking and eating are merely a ritual that does not impart any significance unless wedded with reflection and prayer.
Posted by: Jeff at July 20, 2015 03:43 PM (aQ3OJ)
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"Then he's getting the full Sarah Palin treatment."
And if anyone has the real dirt on the Dems and Hillary, it would be Trump. He's been in that NYC Democratic sewer for years dealing with them.
And he would NOT be afraid to use it if he were to be in the final two. The rest would fight conservatives and fold when their masters tell them to.
And if anyone has the real dirt on the Dems and Hillary, it would be Trump. He's been in that NYC Democratic sewer for years dealing with them.
And he would NOT be afraid to use it if he were to be in the final two. The rest would fight conservatives and fold when their masters tell them to.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 20, 2015 03:50 PM (Ixbid)
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've heard this discussions and I've heard that said. Chilling, very chilling.
Really.? Which evangelical group specifically? What church? Where? I've been around evangelical Christians a lot. Never heard any talk of forcibly converting people or people put in camps.
Really.? Which evangelical group specifically? What church? Where? I've been around evangelical Christians a lot. Never heard any talk of forcibly converting people or people put in camps.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 03:54 PM (OSs/l)
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@363: yup . . . "Perhaps, as an actual Alpha, he sees his objective and is going for it, while ignoring the things he recognizes as unimportant, which only become important if he confesses to having mis-stepped and seeks social forgiveness. Perhaps he understands something about human nature and communication that you (and admittedly I) do not, and is operating on a higher plane of leadership than you or I really even recognize exists."
Nice to see someone else gets it.
Alphas are NOT BEHOLDEN to the conventions most people assume govern reality.
Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are supposedly BEHOLDEN to their constituents, party ideals, and principles . . . a whole helluva lot of good that's doing as they fold and pander to Obama like clockwork and drive the country into an abyss.
Trump didn't flinch re: Univision or Macy's.
Nice to see someone else gets it.
Alphas are NOT BEHOLDEN to the conventions most people assume govern reality.
Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are supposedly BEHOLDEN to their constituents, party ideals, and principles . . . a whole helluva lot of good that's doing as they fold and pander to Obama like clockwork and drive the country into an abyss.
Trump didn't flinch re: Univision or Macy's.
Posted by: ouch at July 20, 2015 03:59 PM (zYgqi)
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If Trump says he goes to church and is a Christian I'll take his word for it. However, i find it really odd and also disturbing odd that a Christian has never asked god for forgiveness and that he refers to Holy Communion as "Having my little cracker and juice".
P.S. Patrick from Michigan is a left wing troll trying to stir up trouble.
P.S. Patrick from Michigan is a left wing troll trying to stir up trouble.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 04:02 PM (OSs/l)
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Oh, good! Religious beliefs and relationship with God are now fair play in politics.
Dear President Obama, as a Christian, would you care to tell us how Jesus has made a difference in your life?
Can you recite the Lord's Prayer?
The Apostles' Creed?
Dear President Obama, as a Christian, would you care to tell us how Jesus has made a difference in your life?
Can you recite the Lord's Prayer?
The Apostles' Creed?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 04:11 PM (NjiZL)
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So Norman Vincent peale was his pastor but Trump says he is a Presbyterian? Then he must have changed churches because Norman Vincent Peale of the Marble Collegiate Church was a pastor in the Reformed Church In America. Maybe Donald hasn't been in church since Peale died.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 04:12 PM (OSs/l)
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I know lots of conservative Christians. I have never heard any of them say they would never vote for someone who wasn't a Born again Christian.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 04:14 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 04:22 PM (x3GpS)
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No one knows who is born again and who is not. It's not like they send around a weekly newsletter.
We pretty much have to take their claim "on faith" (heh).
You can tell by their actions better than their words usually.
Like with Obama and His claims of being a "Christian".
Who really believes that? I'd bet event he media doesn't.
We pretty much have to take their claim "on faith" (heh).
You can tell by their actions better than their words usually.
Like with Obama and His claims of being a "Christian".
Who really believes that? I'd bet event he media doesn't.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 20, 2015 04:24 PM (x3GpS)
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O dear. You should not be taking part in Communion if you don't already believe in Christ. It's a shame, not all pastors/preachers have the sense to tell you that BEFORE they start handing plastic cups around.
Yeah, the Donald is missing a few vital bits of info, here - better just to scratch his toupee and say 'I dunno' than to make stuff up so . . so poorly.
Yeah, the Donald is missing a few vital bits of info, here - better just to scratch his toupee and say 'I dunno' than to make stuff up so . . so poorly.
Posted by: Persnickety at July 20, 2015 04:48 PM (SZa8B)
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well I didn't read past the first 100 responses ... but
He seemed fairly honest about it, though the love for Peale seemed a little over the top. People can argue about his not going to God for forgiveness, but I liked his "If I did wrong I try to make it right" response.
"We" used to joke of Catholic girls that could "sin" like crazy on the weekend, since they'd get forgiveness from a few Hail Marys Sunday morning, and they were then "pure" all week. The Donald's approach is more honest than that.
In a sense Christians don't ask for forgiveness from God, Christians ARE forgiven already, for their sin nature.
"what? shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein?"
The concept is to study and be disciplined to know what is right, then to do what is right. But forgiveness from God is basically past tense, and communion is a reminder of that ("this do in remembrance of me")
Or something like that. Does that really lines up with Trump's life ... probably as much as any other politician. Seemed OK to me, for a difficult question. Like he said, he could have just said "yeah sure I do".
He seemed fairly honest about it, though the love for Peale seemed a little over the top. People can argue about his not going to God for forgiveness, but I liked his "If I did wrong I try to make it right" response.
"We" used to joke of Catholic girls that could "sin" like crazy on the weekend, since they'd get forgiveness from a few Hail Marys Sunday morning, and they were then "pure" all week. The Donald's approach is more honest than that.
In a sense Christians don't ask for forgiveness from God, Christians ARE forgiven already, for their sin nature.
"what? shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein?"
The concept is to study and be disciplined to know what is right, then to do what is right. But forgiveness from God is basically past tense, and communion is a reminder of that ("this do in remembrance of me")
Or something like that. Does that really lines up with Trump's life ... probably as much as any other politician. Seemed OK to me, for a difficult question. Like he said, he could have just said "yeah sure I do".
Posted by: Illiniwek at July 20, 2015 05:16 PM (6zZ5y)
Posted by: gdonovan at July 20, 2015 05:23 PM (Ipxoj)
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taking communion and going to church regularly does not automatically make a person a better Christian than anybody else. I am (at this point) voting for Trump. The FACT that everybody is scrutinizing everything he says as opposed to ignoring all of the stupid things Obama has said over the years just highlights how nervous Trump makes people
BTW, I am Christian, but my. Church (Christian Science) does not offer communion, nor does it Baptise people. So I guess in the eyes of many people I am a heathen.
BTW, I am Christian, but my. Church (Christian Science) does not offer communion, nor does it Baptise people. So I guess in the eyes of many people I am a heathen.
Posted by: Chilling the most at July 20, 2015 05:31 PM (zW5rQ)
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"When I drink my little wine, and eat my little cracker ..."
Yeah, that sounds like a believer talking, there.
14:57
14:58
14:59 ...
Yeah, that sounds like a believer talking, there.
14:57
14:58
14:59 ...
Posted by: FishingWithFredo at July 20, 2015 05:44 PM (INiW9)
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I don't think anybody was suggesting it automatically made someone a better Christian if you went to church and took communion. Simply from my perspective it's odd to hear someone from a church that does celebrate Holy Communion (The PCUSA and the RCA both do) referring it as "having my little cracker and juice" which seems rather disrespectful to me. Quakers don't baptize people or take communion either and they are still a Christian group.
I officiated at a service for two lovely Christian Scientists. I guess because they don't have people who can sign the marriage certificate for the state?. They had readings from the Bible and from "Science and Health" and it was a nice service.
I officiated at a service for two lovely Christian Scientists. I guess because they don't have people who can sign the marriage certificate for the state?. They had readings from the Bible and from "Science and Health" and it was a nice service.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 05:50 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 20, 2015 07:08 PM (iCfNA)
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If he closes the border and stops Muslims from swamping us I don't care what he says.
Posted by: Greg at July 20, 2015 07:35 PM (T/Mza)
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Here's my take on Trump. I don't think he's in it for the long haul. He's going to ride this train as long as he can then choose a successor to take those votes. The establishment understands he is tapping into something powerful, so they're being careful not to say something they can't walk back later to get his votes. But they are also rubbing their hands in glee anticipating that fateful wrong step. I stole that part about being able to walk back remarks from Rush.
Posted by: Auntie Doodles at July 20, 2015 08:08 PM (teYv/)
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Oh good lord, who cares? Honestly, we have almost 20 trillion in debt, 15% of Mexico's working-age population in the U.S., a lagging economy, and a government funded Planned Parenthood selling dead baby body parts. Let's not leave out that we are about to give a soon to be nuclear Iran a green light, and Putin on the march. I seriously do not think that John McCain being dissed by Trump is a national crisis or international incident. Why the hell does anyone care whether Trump has ever "confessed to god" or not?
My god, who cares!
My god, who cares!
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at July 20, 2015 10:11 PM (BCTRd)
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I don't see why anyone who held his nose and voted for a clown like McCain would have any problem doing the same for Trump.
Posted by: Brett at July 20, 2015 11:28 PM (qnOCN)
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Trump is only for Trump, and Trump alone. Anyone who expects him to be some kind of spokesman for the disaffected has a real surprise coming.
If you want the essence of Trump, who he really is, watch the ESPN documentary '30 for 30 Small Potatoes, the Story of the USFL'. When it's over, tell me who Trump was for in that whole process. He blew that league to smithereens without a backward glance. Herschel Walker and Doug Flutie and all the rest be damned.
That is Trump.
If you want the essence of Trump, who he really is, watch the ESPN documentary '30 for 30 Small Potatoes, the Story of the USFL'. When it's over, tell me who Trump was for in that whole process. He blew that league to smithereens without a backward glance. Herschel Walker and Doug Flutie and all the rest be damned.
That is Trump.
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