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Megyn Kelly Destroys Obama on the Sanctuary City Murder
I don't usually say that, but she destroys him. She turns the blue glare of her Aryan fury towards his -- yes, his -- personal decision to keep sanctuary cities going. There's a brief video is about halfway down the page; we really need the full video, but I can't find it on Fox.
Kelly's reportorial catch is that the head of ice -- a Ms. Zaldana -- was asked, just four months ago, if she would like Congressional help in telling citiies that their "detainers" -- an order to keep an individual while ICE comes get them, I guess -- were not voluntary things they could honor or disregard at their whim. This is what that the San Francisco sheriff was talking about when Tapper interviewed him -- claiming a "detainer" is "not a legal order" like a warrant and so can be disregarded at will. Ms. Zaldana was asked, four months ago, if Congress should make it clear that detainers were not disregardable at will by sanctuary cities. Her answer was: "Thank you. Amen. Yes." But then, the very next day, not twenty four hours later, after obviously being read the riot act by a higher-up (either Jeh Johnson, or Obama himself) she reversed herself completely, and wrote a letter to Congress praying that they not misunderstand her, that she does not want any clarification at all on detainers, that it would upset the delicate balance of the police/illegal ecosystem or whatever.Thank you. Amen, yes. Crack down on the sanctuary cities is what she said, but the very next day, Friday March 20, a complete reversal after the ACLU, immigrants rights groups and others pressured the White House and presto, the head of ICE makes a shocking about face. This time in writing, though, saying, quote, '[a]ny effort at federal legislation now to mandate state and local law enforcement's compliance with ICE detainers will, in our view, be a highly counterproductive step and lead to more resistance and less cooperation in overall efforts to promote public safety." What happened to thank you, amen yes a day earlier? And now, after clear evidence that it is not interested in a sanctuary city crackdown, this administration tells reporters it can't comment on whether the President backs the sheriff or the policies in this case?So Obama is directly responsible for this woman's murder. You know how Obama always claims that if we can save one life by any gun control measure? Well, resolving that detainer orders are not voluntary would save many lives. And yet he wants more people murdered. Odd! Kelly then blasted Josh Earnest for refusing to answer a question about it, referring the matter to the Justice Department (which would of course refuse comment), and the media for being "too lazy" to do their jobs:
He allowed this to happen. They -- the administration knew the person he placed in charge of ICE was telling Congress, 'yes, help us, get these cities into compliance' and someone took her behind the wood shed and said you're reversing that explicitly and now they don't want to answer for it because they know the press will be too lazy to hold them to account. It is lawlessness.Honestly, it was the best six minutes of TV I've seen in a long time.
Rick Perry: Cut Off Federal Dollars (For Policing) to Sanctuary Cities. Rick Perry's on the board. Now obviously one can say cut off all federal aid and sure, that sounds not so bad too. But this is a pretty good proposal, as there's obviously a direct link between the funds to be withheld and the behavior to be corrected.
"In Texas, we have a long history of welcoming immigrants from all over the world, immigrants who have helped make our economy the strongest in the country. It’s not fair that some people try to jump the immigration line by coming across our border illegally. One of the core responsibilities of the federal government is to secure the border. As the recent tragedy in San Francisco has shown us, it’s important for the federal government and local governments to be able to cooperate to apprehend illegal immigrants with criminal histories. San Francisco--and many other cities in America run by left-wing governments--have become 'sanctuary cities' that choose to openly defy U.S. immigration law and prevent cooperation with federal authorities. Perversely, the federal government subsidizes this behavior by sending Justice Department funds to cities that intentionally harbor illegal immigrants in their jails. This has to end." "Today, I am proposing to pull funding for the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program--or SCAAP--rom sanctuary cities. States with sanctuary cities will lose a proportionate amount of their SCAAP funding as well. SCAAP funding will also be restricted to jurisdictions that actively participate in immigration law enforcement programs. Cities and counties with sanctuary policies in place will also be prohibited from applying for federal law enforcement or Department of Homeland Security grants. Federal taxpayers shouldn’t be forced to subsidize the irresponsible behavior of these governments. Furthermore, the Justice Department should allow federal immigration officials, either through the executive branch or Congressional action, to have access to prisons and holding facilities in sanctuary cities and counties, so as to verify the immigration status of people in those facilities."
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All TV is a wasteland.
Posted by: Grump928(C) blurts at July 09, 2015 01:42 PM (rwI+c)
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Teenage wasteland.
Posted by: Horse's Ass at July 09, 2015 01:42 PM (VcOqI)
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plus she has a magnificent rack.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Pol Pot at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (agXt1)
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**sploosh!**
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (skLky)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (nkc0T)
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and to be fair, her ass isn't half bad either.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 01:45 PM (8XRCm)
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Does the blue glare of her Aryan fury live at home with her two breasts?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2015 01:45 PM (JtwS4)
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Saw it live. She was wonderful. And angry, truly angry. Why can't some of our Pubbie candidates act like this. Yes, please, Amen!
Posted by: Wind Breaker at July 09, 2015 01:45 PM (/pOl7)
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So Obama is directly responsible for this woman's murder.
As they used to say in Cambodia, you'll never have a Marxist paradise omelet unless you're willing to break a few eggs.
As they used to say in Cambodia, you'll never have a Marxist paradise omelet unless you're willing to break a few eggs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2015 01:45 PM (8ZskC)
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She gets wound up sometimes.
Posted by: Roland THTG at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (QM5S2)
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Honestly, it was the best six minutes of TV I've seen in a long time.
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I know hes a poser, bag of hot air fake populist.... but.... O'Reilleys talking points on the same topic the night before was pretty good too.
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I know hes a poser, bag of hot air fake populist.... but.... O'Reilleys talking points on the same topic the night before was pretty good too.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: King Barack the First at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (BlCZ6)
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Why can't some of our Pubbie candidates act like this. Yes, please, Amen!
Not angry? You've just never seen me when the bar runs out of Makers Mark.
*hic*
Not angry? You've just never seen me when the bar runs out of Makers Mark.
*hic*
Posted by: John Boehner at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (8ZskC)
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"Trump is right."
- Jan Brewer.
- Jan Brewer.
Posted by: @votermom at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (R6S14)
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Ace
Powerline has this story that absolutely destroys the Left's narrative on illegals and sanctuary cities. Talk about Moral Authority
Anita Shaw was serving her country in Iraq when she was informed her son
Jamiel had been murdered in LA. The killer is an illegal alien who had
been released early after assault on a police officer and never having
his immigration status checked.
I felt like because he was an illegal alien it was alright that he killed my son.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ok37pzx
Powerline has this story that absolutely destroys the Left's narrative on illegals and sanctuary cities. Talk about Moral Authority
Anita Shaw was serving her country in Iraq when she was informed her son
Jamiel had been murdered in LA. The killer is an illegal alien who had
been released early after assault on a police officer and never having
his immigration status checked.
I felt like because he was an illegal alien it was alright that he killed my son.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ok37pzx
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:46 PM (nkc0T)
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>>And yet he wants more people murdered. Odd!
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could have stopped it.
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could have stopped it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (NOIQH)
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"Honestly, it was the best six minutes of TV I've seen in a long time."
Did you need a cigarette afterwards, ace?
Did you need a cigarette afterwards, ace?
Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (RWGcK)
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I'd like to puddle on her tummy
Posted by: Big Freakin Al at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (iWo0u)
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Nood Meghan Kelley? *looks around* where? where????
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (sgrzZ)
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Obama doesn't care about legal people.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 09, 2015 01:48 PM (oVJmc)
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It's all shouting at the wind.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 09, 2015 01:48 PM (1ygMX)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 09, 2015 01:49 PM (oVJmc)
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Well Oregon Muse if Iran really has nukes we all just might be blowing in the wind.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:49 PM (nkc0T)
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18 >>And yet he wants more people murdered. Odd!
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could have stopped it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (NOIQH)
Americans are un-people. They don't count. And un-people can't have feelings. So who cares?
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could have stopped it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:47 PM (NOIQH)
Americans are un-people. They don't count. And un-people can't have feelings. So who cares?
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 01:49 PM (9221z)
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I would hang this murder on all their heads.
Good afternoon horde.
Good afternoon horde.
Posted by: skip at July 09, 2015 01:49 PM (AhWx2)
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How do we go about getting Martha's Vineyard listed as a Sanctuary City?
Posted by: Fritz at July 09, 2015 01:49 PM (UzPAd)
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A nice guy with lousy eyesight tries to shoot a seal and suddenly all hell breaks loose.
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at July 09, 2015 01:50 PM (8ZskC)
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Me thinks Trump has kicked the hornets nest and awoken a sleeping giant.
But I've been assured that Trump is not a serious candidate, like say Cuban Dondi.
But I've been assured that Trump is not a serious candidate, like say Cuban Dondi.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 09, 2015 01:50 PM (VvoVZ)
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I know hes a poser, bag of hot air fake populist.... but.... O'Reilleys talking points on the same topic the night before was pretty good too.
He should just pay the jizya like a good dhimmi.
He should just pay the jizya like a good dhimmi.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 09, 2015 01:51 PM (1LOcx)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2015 01:51 PM (VY8H5)
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Word is that Sanchez will be given up to Mexican authorities in exchange for the release of everybody else in Gitmo.
The administration says it was the very best deal it could get.
The administration says it was the very best deal it could get.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2015 01:51 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 09, 2015 01:51 PM (HSmrB)
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Anybody remember the Dirty Harry movie The Enforcer?
Based in San Francisco, gang of 60's era retard wannabe terrorists aligned with a far leftist SF priest who runs a one man amnesty shelter for illegals in his church, terrorize and kill SF residents and attempt to take over the city.
Seems oddly prescient these days.
Based in San Francisco, gang of 60's era retard wannabe terrorists aligned with a far leftist SF priest who runs a one man amnesty shelter for illegals in his church, terrorize and kill SF residents and attempt to take over the city.
Seems oddly prescient these days.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Art Griego at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (XDwcC)
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Ms. Zaldana was asked, four months ago, if Congress should make it clear that detainers were not disregardable at will by sanctuary cities.
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I am confused by this. Why does a city or state agent have to follow a "detainer?"
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I am confused by this. Why does a city or state agent have to follow a "detainer?"
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (gmeXX)
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Would this be the shinny object of the day if Trump wasn't on this like a duck on a June bug?
Posted by: just saying at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (dUCZ6)
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affirmative action sanctuary cities
gay marriage sanctuary cities
assault weapon sanctuary cities
climate change sanctuary cities
affirmative action sanctuary cities
gay marriage sanctuary cities
assault weapon sanctuary cities
climate change sanctuary cities
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (e8kgV)
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So has Megyn undergone the yearly IRS audit yet?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (J3phO)
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People are too worried about sexual assault by illegal aliens. They should be more worried about the f*cking that we are about to get from the Iranians, while Obama and Kerry hold us down on the conference table.
Posted by: goon at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (gy5kE)
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I know it's OT, but my father was diagnosed with cancer yesterday. Please keep our family in your prayers Horde.
Posted by: jmel at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (cfFqn)
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But I've been assured that Trump is not a serious candidate, like say Cuban Dondi.
You just need to learn to be more at peace with defeat, wingnut.
You just need to learn to be more at peace with defeat, wingnut.
Posted by: Cuban Dondi at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (8ZskC)
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automatic weapon sanctuary cities
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (e8kgV)
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To be fair, Ms. Zaldana was really hot as the blue smurf cat in Avatar.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (JtwS4)
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Wheres the video?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (J3phO)
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Iran? Just wait till Obama bends us over for the UN's raping in the fall.
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (dUCZ6)
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Posted by: jmel at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (cfFqn)
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done... and may His grace be with you and your family.
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done... and may His grace be with you and your family.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (8XRCm)
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Never mind
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (J3phO)
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jmel, you got it
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 01:54 PM (dUCZ6)
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Nuke free sanctuary cities.
Oh wait, already got 'em.
Oh wait, already got 'em.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (5fXFG)
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>>> Honestly, it was the best six minutes of TV I've seen in a long time.
*shakes pack of smokes*
Here ya go, bud
*shakes pack of smokes*
Here ya go, bud
Posted by: Bigby's One Hand Clapping at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (3ZtZW)
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Why does a city / state have to wait until ICE comes to pick up someone? The city / state is under no obligation to hold such a person?
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (gmeXX)
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Megyn took a flamethrower to the administration last night and it was great.
More great video here as Bill Whittle sums up the history of the Democrat party:
https://tinyurl.com/p8uxuzz
via The Right Scoop
More great video here as Bill Whittle sums up the history of the Democrat party:
https://tinyurl.com/p8uxuzz
via The Right Scoop
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (BZAd3)
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((jmel))
Prayers
Prayers
Posted by: @votermom at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (X7gyf)
Posted by: Nomennovum at July 09, 2015 01:55 PM (0z+LY)
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>>Obama doesn't care about legal people.
No, Obama doesn't care about any people.
His open borders for unaccompanied minors has created a humanitarian nightmare - seen reports that ~80% of these minors are raped.
Think about that: Obama is encouraging Central and South American parents to turn their kids over to coyotes or carte members to escort them to America on the promise of amnesty (and in turn, they can then pave the way for their parents to get in), knowing full well that they will be vulnerable to some seriously bad people. This has been going on for over a year - long enough for him to reconsider and change the policy, tell the parents to stop sending their kids.
But no, Obama doesn't care. He just wants more kids in here, to bad if they're abused on the way. In fact, he's gone one step further and is using the sexual abuse of these minors to force Catholic charities caring for them in the US to provide them with birth control and abortions.
The whole thing is seriously fcuked up and evil.
No, Obama doesn't care about any people.
His open borders for unaccompanied minors has created a humanitarian nightmare - seen reports that ~80% of these minors are raped.
Think about that: Obama is encouraging Central and South American parents to turn their kids over to coyotes or carte members to escort them to America on the promise of amnesty (and in turn, they can then pave the way for their parents to get in), knowing full well that they will be vulnerable to some seriously bad people. This has been going on for over a year - long enough for him to reconsider and change the policy, tell the parents to stop sending their kids.
But no, Obama doesn't care. He just wants more kids in here, to bad if they're abused on the way. In fact, he's gone one step further and is using the sexual abuse of these minors to force Catholic charities caring for them in the US to provide them with birth control and abortions.
The whole thing is seriously fcuked up and evil.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
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Let's not give into the other side. Shouldn't that be Celtic fury, Ace?
Posted by: Wendy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (KydDZ)
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Extraterrestrial Sanctuary Cities
Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at July 09, 2015 01:57 PM (e8kgV)
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But these sanctuary cities and their collusion with Barky and Mexico is nothing, really, compared to how Barky joined Mexico to give aid and comfort to the invasion of illegals by suing Arizona because they DID report illegals to the feral government traitors. Barky and his junta argued - yes, they actually argued in court - that Arizona was breaking the law by following not only feral government law but by adhering to the Constitution, itself.
Of course, barky and his junta should have all been impeached, tried, tossed out and then criminally prosecuted for that ... but what's another anti-American violation of the Constitution when barky has been racking them up like they've been going out of style??
Eh ... ancient news. And since then the Vichy GOP has been trying to get out in front of Barky on giving aid and comfort to the illegal invasion ...
Of course, barky and his junta should have all been impeached, tried, tossed out and then criminally prosecuted for that ... but what's another anti-American violation of the Constitution when barky has been racking them up like they've been going out of style??
Eh ... ancient news. And since then the Vichy GOP has been trying to get out in front of Barky on giving aid and comfort to the illegal invasion ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 09, 2015 01:57 PM (MYSVz)
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Giorgio that was called Alien Nation and Earth got stuck with ETs who get drunk on sour milk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:58 PM (nkc0T)
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Sanctuary cities? Never heard of them.
Posted by: charlie gibson at July 09, 2015 01:58 PM (WCnJW)
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Giorgio that was called Alien Nation and Earth got stuck with ETs who get drunk on sour milk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:58 PM (nkc0T)
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And if memory serves, their testicles were in their armpits....
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 01:58 PM (nkc0T)
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And if memory serves, their testicles were in their armpits....
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 01:58 PM (8XRCm)
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Imagine how upset I would be if Kate was gay...
Nah, just kidding. I would never get upset at my beloved One
Nah, just kidding. I would never get upset at my beloved One
Posted by: Sally Kohn at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (BlCZ6)
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Let's not give into the other side. Shouldn't that be Celtic fury, Ace?
Oh goodie. I always enjoy it when someone makes ace explain why jokes are funny.
Let's not give into the other side. Shouldn't that be Celtic fury, Ace?
Oh goodie. I always enjoy it when someone makes ace explain why jokes are funny.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (JtwS4)
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". . . a complete reversal after the ACLU, immigrants rights groups and others pressured the White House ."
Enemies of the State.
We need to take the fight to them like Lois Lerner and the IRS came after conservatives. Open their books, tear them to pieces.
Enemies of the State.
We need to take the fight to them like Lois Lerner and the IRS came after conservatives. Open their books, tear them to pieces.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NjiZL)
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So where's Zaldana's letter?
The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NOIQH)
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Drunk Sanctuary Cities
Posted by: Charlie Sheen at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (e8kgV)
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Ok - I listened to the clip. I like what Megyn said because she hammered home the point that the executive (the administration) is the President - no one else. But I'm not sure I agreed with what Parino was saying at the end - though she may have been cut off. Was she saying that the states / cities must enforce federal law? I'm not sure that is true?
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (gmeXX)
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The whole thing is seriously fcuked up and evil.
That it is.
That children are succumbing to a polio like condition brought in from the influx of diseased kids from Central America - and the palace guard press is keeping that as quite as can be. In another reality, this would have been news.
That it is.
That children are succumbing to a polio like condition brought in from the influx of diseased kids from Central America - and the palace guard press is keeping that as quite as can be. In another reality, this would have been news.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (sH832)
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The outrage of "sanctuary cities" is fundamental - they should not/never should have been permitted to exist, for a nano-second - WRT any federal law.
This is a key component of the lawlessness rotting the country at its core.
And it didn't start with this ridiculous affirmative action intern "president", and not a single voice of consequence from any quarter has ever been raised against it.
The American people are lazy, misinformed, and effectively stupid to the point that is hurts them (but they're too lazy, misinformed, and effectively stupid to understand that). And the political class is full-in on this insanity, as with many other idiocies.
And ace, the problem is, that *IS* America, now. Apparently.
The outrage of "sanctuary cities" is fundamental - they should not/never should have been permitted to exist, for a nano-second - WRT any federal law.
This is a key component of the lawlessness rotting the country at its core.
And it didn't start with this ridiculous affirmative action intern "president", and not a single voice of consequence from any quarter has ever been raised against it.
The American people are lazy, misinformed, and effectively stupid to the point that is hurts them (but they're too lazy, misinformed, and effectively stupid to understand that). And the political class is full-in on this insanity, as with many other idiocies.
And ace, the problem is, that *IS* America, now. Apparently.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:00 PM (QDnY+)
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35 The Jim Jones story.
Posted by: Wendy at July 09, 2015 02:00 PM (KydDZ)
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Megyn is too pretty to get so angry. She's gonna get a wrinkle. I know that's racist.
Posted by: goon at July 09, 2015 02:00 PM (gy5kE)
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Hey, if you happen to be following @reince on twitter please unfollow him and tell him it's because he's trying to sgut candidates up about illegal immigration.
Reince Priebus has 35.4k followers right now.
Reince Priebus has 35.4k followers right now.
Posted by: @votermom at July 09, 2015 02:00 PM (laX1j)
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This whole fucking administration should be prosecuted and sent to Gitmo as enemy combatants.
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (dUCZ6)
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There should be one day declared each month where Obama can't do something new to fuck over America.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (5fXFG)
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I am confused by this. Why does a city or state agent have to follow a "detainer?"
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (gmeXX)
as I understand it, it's basically a memo from one law enforcement agency to another saying, "hey when you're done with this guy, hand him over to us so we can try him in our jurisdiction."
So, for example, someone who gets arrested for DUI in one county and gets booked and has a warrant pop up for an outstanding drug charge from another county -- the arresting county reaches out to the other cops and they say "put a detainer on him, when he's out of your county jail on the DUI charge, we want him for his drug charge" or whatnot.
As in, "don't just cut him loose when you're done with him."
So when someone gets booked and bounces back as a 5 times deported illegal, ICE says to the local LEOs "hey, hold on to that guy for us and let us know when you're done with him, we want to deport him again." and San Fran and others are saying "nah, fuck your detainer, we're just going to cut him loose."
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 01:52 PM (gmeXX)
as I understand it, it's basically a memo from one law enforcement agency to another saying, "hey when you're done with this guy, hand him over to us so we can try him in our jurisdiction."
So, for example, someone who gets arrested for DUI in one county and gets booked and has a warrant pop up for an outstanding drug charge from another county -- the arresting county reaches out to the other cops and they say "put a detainer on him, when he's out of your county jail on the DUI charge, we want him for his drug charge" or whatnot.
As in, "don't just cut him loose when you're done with him."
So when someone gets booked and bounces back as a 5 times deported illegal, ICE says to the local LEOs "hey, hold on to that guy for us and let us know when you're done with him, we want to deport him again." and San Fran and others are saying "nah, fuck your detainer, we're just going to cut him loose."
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (AkOaV)
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When this happens under my watch it will be an act of love.
Posted by: Jeb! at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (W5DcG)
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Aren't 'Sanctuary Cities' legally in open rebellion against DC by their actions?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (nkc0T)
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I think I'm sensing the beginning of a preference cascade...
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (Ilm6f)
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Giorgio that was called Alien Nation and Earth got stuck with ETs who get drunk on sour milk.
In the movie, they were getting high on some thick blue goo,
In the movie, they were getting high on some thick blue goo,
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (1ygMX)
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The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NOIQH
Surely, you jest?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NOIQH
Surely, you jest?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:02 PM (J3phO)
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Yes, obama is INVITING hardened crimnals in and ARMING them.
Yes, obama is INVITING hardened crimnals in and ARMING them.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2015 02:02 PM (WOzHv)
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Further - Parino was wrong. The Bush administration absolutely could have not enforced the DC gun ban - especially if they thought it to be an infringement on the 2nd A. If that was the case, they had a duty to not enforce it.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:02 PM (gmeXX)
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There should be one day declared each month where Obama can't do something new to fuck over America.
On the 32nd of each month.
On the 32nd of each month.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:03 PM (5fXFG)
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81 Aren't 'Sanctuary Cities' legally in open rebellion against DC by their actions?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (nkc0T
Let's see what happens when there is a white, hetro, Judeo-Christian sanctuary city.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (nkc0T
Let's see what happens when there is a white, hetro, Judeo-Christian sanctuary city.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:03 PM (J3phO)
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Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:00 PM (QDnY+)
The feds sue AZ for passing a law allowing local LEO's to ask about immigration status. The fed's argument being, "hey, immigration is our ball park. We make the rules, not the states."
Yet, when a CITY decides to ignore federal immigration law, the feds just shrug and say "oh well, nothing we can do about it"
The feds sue AZ for passing a law allowing local LEO's to ask about immigration status. The fed's argument being, "hey, immigration is our ball park. We make the rules, not the states."
Yet, when a CITY decides to ignore federal immigration law, the feds just shrug and say "oh well, nothing we can do about it"
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:03 PM (AkOaV)
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We are at war.
We are at war.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2015 02:03 PM (WOzHv)
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Bucket list: on my deathbed, asking "Are you SURE Obama and Jarrett are going to die in prison?" and honestly being told "Yes".
Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at July 09, 2015 02:03 PM (o+SC1)
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6 To Democrats #IllegalLivesMatter
And #AmericanLivesDont
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Correction: #WhiteAmericanLivesDontMatter
And #AmericanLivesDont
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Correction: #WhiteAmericanLivesDontMatter
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (xsEwF)
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In all fairness to TFG, he only wants white people murdered.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (eBNjM)
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As in, "don't just cut him loose when you're done with him."
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Comity suggests that they should not just release someone. But there is no legal requirement that hand them over.
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Comity suggests that they should not just release someone. But there is no legal requirement that hand them over.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (gmeXX)
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There's no question that King Barry has blood on his hands.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (2Ojst)
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I wonder which conservative candidate, other than the Donald, would have the guts to wave that letter in front of the camera, and demand an explanation for the complete reversal. Yeah, I can't think of one either.
Posted by: goon at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (gy5kE)
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Primordial, one of the two screaming, pristine, floodlit mind-blowing examples of lawlessness, Catch-22 style.
AZ was nuked by pre-emption doctrine - hey, that's a federal responsibility. (oh, forgot to mention, the feds are openly refusing to discharge those duties, sorry, nothing you can do)
Other one being the Prop 8 scam to effectively abolish state constitutional or other referendum actions. Voters vote for X. Opponents venue-shop, find corrupt/stupid/arrogant/lawless federal judge (not a big challenge) to throw out the resulting statute. Faithless governor/attorney general refuse to defend the statute. Stand-in private parties (merely representing, you know, in reality, the actual voters of said state) are deemd to lack "standing" at SCOTUS.
It's absurd, transparently so. Yet beautiful, from a design standpoint.
Primordial, one of the two screaming, pristine, floodlit mind-blowing examples of lawlessness, Catch-22 style.
AZ was nuked by pre-emption doctrine - hey, that's a federal responsibility. (oh, forgot to mention, the feds are openly refusing to discharge those duties, sorry, nothing you can do)
Other one being the Prop 8 scam to effectively abolish state constitutional or other referendum actions. Voters vote for X. Opponents venue-shop, find corrupt/stupid/arrogant/lawless federal judge (not a big challenge) to throw out the resulting statute. Faithless governor/attorney general refuse to defend the statute. Stand-in private parties (merely representing, you know, in reality, the actual voters of said state) are deemd to lack "standing" at SCOTUS.
It's absurd, transparently so. Yet beautiful, from a design standpoint.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (QDnY+)
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Yet, when a CITY decides to ignore federal immigration law, the feds just shrug and say "oh well, nothing we can do about it"
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I get the double standard / hypocrisy argument - but a city / state is within its right to ignore such law. If only they ignored other federal laws.
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I get the double standard / hypocrisy argument - but a city / state is within its right to ignore such law. If only they ignored other federal laws.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (gmeXX)
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Out out damn spot -- obama washing hands
Posted by: just saying at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (wkuqO)
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>>And yet he wants more people murdered. Odd!
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other
people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could
have stopped it.
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Obummer has said for the record that he was chosen to manage America's decline. His words, not the teleprompter pap. This is part of that managed decline, the deliberate undermining of the rights of citizenship by enabling illegal immigration and residence, even when the illegals are felons into the bargain. He and his fellow travelers in DC are just fine with what is happening.
>>And yet he wants more people murdered. Odd!
I know, sarcasm, but...by now we know that Obama is unmoved by other
people's misery, even when he is directly responsible for it or could
have stopped it.
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Obummer has said for the record that he was chosen to manage America's decline. His words, not the teleprompter pap. This is part of that managed decline, the deliberate undermining of the rights of citizenship by enabling illegal immigration and residence, even when the illegals are felons into the bargain. He and his fellow travelers in DC are just fine with what is happening.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:06 PM (ry4ab)
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Comity suggests that they should not just release someone. But there is no legal requirement that hand them over.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (gmeXX)
Well, so in the case of the guy in San Fran -- he was picked up on a drug warrant from a decade ago. ICE said "hold him, he's a multiple felon who we've deported multiple times. Let us know when we can come pick him up."
Then the decade old drug warrant got dismissed, and the judge just let the guy go. They never contacted ICE.
The charge he was in front of the judge for got dismissed, so local LEOs had no reason to hold him.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:04 PM (gmeXX)
Well, so in the case of the guy in San Fran -- he was picked up on a drug warrant from a decade ago. ICE said "hold him, he's a multiple felon who we've deported multiple times. Let us know when we can come pick him up."
Then the decade old drug warrant got dismissed, and the judge just let the guy go. They never contacted ICE.
The charge he was in front of the judge for got dismissed, so local LEOs had no reason to hold him.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:06 PM (AkOaV)
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Talk about sweaty balls.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (5fXFG)
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Okay,, I chuckled out loud.... Now Huma wants to know what I'm reading... Thanks a lot!
Talk about sweaty balls.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:01 PM (5fXFG)
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Okay,, I chuckled out loud.... Now Huma wants to know what I'm reading... Thanks a lot!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 09, 2015 02:06 PM (HSmrB)
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This clarification bill would fail in the Republican congress by one vote.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:06 PM (xsEwF)
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Fox News condescends to discuss an immigration story that even progs like Feinstein and HRC bitch about. This impresses Ace.
http://www.kausfiles.com/2015/03/18/fox-makes-it-easy-for-amnesty/
http://www.kausfiles.com/2015/03/18/fox-makes-it-easy-for-amnesty/
Posted by: chedolf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (ZtPHO)
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Lying liars who lie!
Posted by: Killerdog at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (ABfud)
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The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NOIQH)
They don't have the guts.
Give it to Trump
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:59 PM (NOIQH)
They don't have the guts.
Give it to Trump
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (9221z)
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Excellent post, Ace. Love the passion.
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (Vf5rR)
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Less than two hours to reach a Greek Solution.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
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I get the double standard / hypocrisy argument - but a city / state is within its right to ignore such law. If only they ignored other federal laws.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah, but it can't work both ways.
Either state / local jurisdictions have the ability to nullify federal laws or they don't.
We're always told they absolutely don't, and only wingnuts would argue otherwise. Except when it comes to marijuana laws and immigration laws. Then it's a maybe.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:05 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah, but it can't work both ways.
Either state / local jurisdictions have the ability to nullify federal laws or they don't.
We're always told they absolutely don't, and only wingnuts would argue otherwise. Except when it comes to marijuana laws and immigration laws. Then it's a maybe.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (AkOaV)
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108 Less than two hours to reach a Greek Solution.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
If they haven't found enough KY by now, they never will.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
If they haven't found enough KY by now, they never will.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (9221z)
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Well, so in the case of the guy in San Fran -- he was picked up on a drug warrant from a decade ago. ICE said "hold him, he's a multiple felon who we've deported multiple times. Let us know when we can come pick him up."
Then the decade old drug warrant got dismissed, and the judge just let the guy go. They never contacted ICE.
The charge he was in front of the judge for got dismissed, so local LEOs had no reason to hold him.
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Thanks - I didn't know all the details. Obviously bad. I'm merely making a Constitutional argument that the federal government cannot require the state to continue to hold such a person.
Then the decade old drug warrant got dismissed, and the judge just let the guy go. They never contacted ICE.
The charge he was in front of the judge for got dismissed, so local LEOs had no reason to hold him.
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Thanks - I didn't know all the details. Obviously bad. I'm merely making a Constitutional argument that the federal government cannot require the state to continue to hold such a person.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (gmeXX)
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The greeks will be fine, they will get Germany to pony up because of WW1 or something.
Posted by: just saying at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (wkuqO)
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If we shut up about this we can get the Hispanic vote.
Posted by: Karl Rove at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (W5DcG)
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Honestly, it was the best six minutes of TV I've seen in a long time.
Wait, she was also topless? Heart be still.
Wait, she was also topless? Heart be still.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (0FSuD)
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Let's make the Hampton's a sanctuary enclave and see how fast policies change.
American lives don't matter to this man. A man who voted several times to allow babies who survive an abortion to be 'shelved' and denied care, nutrition, etc. is a monster in my book. Do you think he would actually care about people being killed because of the blatant law breaking in this country? It is all about power and is evil.
American lives don't matter to this man. A man who voted several times to allow babies who survive an abortion to be 'shelved' and denied care, nutrition, etc. is a monster in my book. Do you think he would actually care about people being killed because of the blatant law breaking in this country? It is all about power and is evil.
Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (oiNtH)
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Remember when the President of Mexico addressed Congress and said he was suing Arizona for enforcing USA immigration laws? All the Democrats gave him a standing O. Then he said the Second Amendment was a piece of shit. Another standing O.
That was funny.
That was funny.
Posted by: Daybrother at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (FZs5J)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (kdS6q)
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I'm merely making a Constitutional argument that the federal government cannot require the state to continue to hold such a person.
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I should say Constitutional observation not argument.
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I should say Constitutional observation not argument.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (gmeXX)
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We're always told they absolutely don't, and only wingnuts would argue otherwise. Except when it comes to marijuana laws and immigration laws. Then it's a maybe.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (AkOaV)
Oh, and the first amendment. Don't forget about that one.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (AkOaV)
Oh, and the first amendment. Don't forget about that one.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (9221z)
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By the way, anyone else chuckle a little at the Buzzfeed-esque headline our Ewok wrote for this one?
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (AkOaV)
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Maybe Germany seized that Panther tank to fix it up and march through Athens in it....
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:09 PM (nkc0T)
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Ace
Powerline has this story that absolutely destroys the Left's
narrative on illegals and sanctuary cities. Talk about Moral Authority
Anita Shaw was serving her country in Iraq when she was informed her son
Jamiel had been murdered in LA. The killer is an illegal alien who had
been released early after assault on a police officer and never having
his immigration status checked.
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Great link Anna, and it it is the best proof as to why Trump is polling so high. Americans are at their wits' end over the consequences of illegals living in the nation, but neither party seems to give a damn, or (as per GOP) is running scared of SJW criticism. Trump is going to get a lot of populist support no matter how that silly debate on August 6 turns out.
Ace
Powerline has this story that absolutely destroys the Left's
narrative on illegals and sanctuary cities. Talk about Moral Authority
Anita Shaw was serving her country in Iraq when she was informed her son
Jamiel had been murdered in LA. The killer is an illegal alien who had
been released early after assault on a police officer and never having
his immigration status checked.
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Great link Anna, and it it is the best proof as to why Trump is polling so high. Americans are at their wits' end over the consequences of illegals living in the nation, but neither party seems to give a damn, or (as per GOP) is running scared of SJW criticism. Trump is going to get a lot of populist support no matter how that silly debate on August 6 turns out.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:10 PM (ry4ab)
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SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:10 PM (QDnY+)
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As a Republican, I disagree with the President on some issues. But extremist Megyn Kelly's disgraceful attempt to blame this tragedy on Mr. Obama is unacceptable.
Immigration is a serious issue which should not be politicized. I am concerned that this could lead to a violent backlash against our immigrant community.
Immigration is a serious issue which should not be politicized. I am concerned that this could lead to a violent backlash against our immigrant community.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at July 09, 2015 02:10 PM (Ui7Rt)
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Don't forget it was also Donald Trump that got Obama to release that fake birth certificate.
The dude sure knows how to push the right buttons.
The GOP could learn a thing or two from him.
Nah, who am I kidding, they won't learn a god damned thing.
The dude sure knows how to push the right buttons.
The GOP could learn a thing or two from him.
Nah, who am I kidding, they won't learn a god damned thing.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (VvoVZ)
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exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
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No doubt that if any real momentum toward dealing with illegals develops Rupert Murdoch will make sure that you never hear about it again on Fox. We unwashed masses have been given our six minutes of attention from our betters.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nFdGS)
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Either state / local jurisdictions have the ability to nullify federal laws or they don't
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I guess I don't see this as the state nullifying a law. Maybe de facto but not de jure. But there is a difference. Again, I'm just making the Constitutional observation.
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I guess I don't see this as the state nullifying a law. Maybe de facto but not de jure. But there is a difference. Again, I'm just making the Constitutional observation.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (gmeXX)
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I'm merely making a Constitutional argument that the federal government cannot require the state to continue to hold such a person.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (gmeXX)
Force them to?
I don't know. They're essentially issuing a bench warrant for the person. I'd think full faith and credit would at least highly... suggest that NY, for example, has to alert CA if they pick someone up who has an outstanding warrant from CA and give CA the opportunity to come pick the fugitive up.
I would think.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (gmeXX)
Force them to?
I don't know. They're essentially issuing a bench warrant for the person. I'd think full faith and credit would at least highly... suggest that NY, for example, has to alert CA if they pick someone up who has an outstanding warrant from CA and give CA the opportunity to come pick the fugitive up.
I would think.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (AkOaV)
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If Trump keeps beating this drum and bitch slapping the media chimps he's going to make a real dent. That is, making it "safe" for the other GOP wimps to pile on and get some motion going.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 09, 2015 02:12 PM (Ilm6f)
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Posted by: Daybrother
And did any of our witless shitheel politicians or the press ask Senor about Mexico's policies at their own southern border? I believe it is something like shoot to kill.
And did any of our witless shitheel politicians or the press ask Senor about Mexico's policies at their own southern border? I believe it is something like shoot to kill.
Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (oiNtH)
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I'm merely making a Constitutional argument that the federal government cannot require the state to continue to hold such a person.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (gmeXX)
Actually, defending against invasion is one of the very few responsibilities that the federal is tasked by the Constitution, with tons of extra powers in order to effectively carry that out. That is one of the most basic responsibilities of the federal government and the States most assuredly cannot decide not to comply in this.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:08 PM (gmeXX)
Actually, defending against invasion is one of the very few responsibilities that the federal is tasked by the Constitution, with tons of extra powers in order to effectively carry that out. That is one of the most basic responsibilities of the federal government and the States most assuredly cannot decide not to comply in this.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (MYSVz)
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I remain hopeful against hope that Germany will stand firm, that the last two bailouts were enough to steel the Teutonic countenance against further appeals from their beggarly neighbors.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (2cS/G)
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SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
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Yeah, this probably isn't an appropriate thread to discuss because there are serious consequences to what has happened here. I'm having a theoretical discussion - probably with no one but myself.
But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
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Yeah, this probably isn't an appropriate thread to discuss because there are serious consequences to what has happened here. I'm having a theoretical discussion - probably with no one but myself.
But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX)
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The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy
The sanctuary city movement has been going on for damned near 40 years, under administrations and congresses controlled by both parties, and nothing has been done.
The O and the Democrats can share the blame with their friends across the aisle.
The GOP needs to be waving it in front of the cameras whilst pining the blame squarely where it belongs: on Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy
The sanctuary city movement has been going on for damned near 40 years, under administrations and congresses controlled by both parties, and nothing has been done.
The O and the Democrats can share the blame with their friends across the aisle.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (kdS6q)
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Megyn Kelly should do her show topless like some of those sophisticated foreign shows and here's why:
Posted by: Daybrother Vox'n at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (FZs5J)
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108 Less than two hours to reach a Greek Solution.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
Isnt it, Bend over I'll drive?
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
Isnt it, Bend over I'll drive?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (J3phO)
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Would this be the shinny object of the day if Trump wasn't on this like a duck on a June bug?
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Probably not, no, the murders would become just more ignored inconvenient statistics. But Trump already had a position, and then Fate takes a hand by backing him up 100%. In one week Trump went from fringe whacko to vox populi, the Democrats look like heartless pols, and the GOP candidates look like 90-pound weaklings.
Would this be the shinny object of the day if Trump wasn't on this like a duck on a June bug?
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Probably not, no, the murders would become just more ignored inconvenient statistics. But Trump already had a position, and then Fate takes a hand by backing him up 100%. In one week Trump went from fringe whacko to vox populi, the Democrats look like heartless pols, and the GOP candidates look like 90-pound weaklings.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (qCMvj)
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127 exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (9221z)
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I don't know. They're essentially issuing a bench warrant for the person. I'd think full faith and credit would at least highly... suggest that NY, for example, has to alert CA if they pick someone up who has an outstanding warrant from CA and give CA the opportunity to come pick the fugitive up.
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That may be. Does the FFC clause apply to federal government - state? Or is it just state-state?
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That may be. Does the FFC clause apply to federal government - state? Or is it just state-state?
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:15 PM (gmeXX)
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124 SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:10 PM (QDnY+)
I think he's arguing the actual specifics of does the federal government have the ability to FORCE a city to house someone and tell them when the person is available to be picked up. It would force the city to use resources and put them under constraints.
A strict reading of the constitution would say... maybe? I don't know.
It's a really "in the weeds" argument if I'm reading his argument correctly.
And I don't know the answer.
But we don't live in a world where anyone reads the constitution strictly, so I kind of have less patience for this line of reasoning then I used to. Because when "shall not infringe" and "interstate commerce" don't mean what they say, and "abortion" is a constitutional right to "privacy" found in the penumbras and emanations of the constitution... well, c'mon.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:10 PM (QDnY+)
I think he's arguing the actual specifics of does the federal government have the ability to FORCE a city to house someone and tell them when the person is available to be picked up. It would force the city to use resources and put them under constraints.
A strict reading of the constitution would say... maybe? I don't know.
It's a really "in the weeds" argument if I'm reading his argument correctly.
And I don't know the answer.
But we don't live in a world where anyone reads the constitution strictly, so I kind of have less patience for this line of reasoning then I used to. Because when "shall not infringe" and "interstate commerce" don't mean what they say, and "abortion" is a constitutional right to "privacy" found in the penumbras and emanations of the constitution... well, c'mon.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:15 PM (AkOaV)
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Daybrother, thanks for the reminder. The Dems in the Congress, standing ovation for a foreign leader sliming the US and one of its states - the president of Mexico, a strict class-run regime of which he was the temporary ringleader, and which survives almost solely through lawless labor exports/remittances to/from the US.
I cannot think of a moment I was more alienated from half the country. When I regarded these people as not even close to being fellow citizens.
Unless my memory's fading, I cannot recall the "opposition" party using that jaw-dropping event - in any way, ever. Funny, used to be that when one side did something that would repel up to 75% of the country - on tape, in the f***king House chamber - the other side would exploit it ruthlessly. As they should. For electoral gain, for policy change.
Daybrother, thanks for the reminder. The Dems in the Congress, standing ovation for a foreign leader sliming the US and one of its states - the president of Mexico, a strict class-run regime of which he was the temporary ringleader, and which survives almost solely through lawless labor exports/remittances to/from the US.
I cannot think of a moment I was more alienated from half the country. When I regarded these people as not even close to being fellow citizens.
Unless my memory's fading, I cannot recall the "opposition" party using that jaw-dropping event - in any way, ever. Funny, used to be that when one side did something that would repel up to 75% of the country - on tape, in the f***king House chamber - the other side would exploit it ruthlessly. As they should. For electoral gain, for policy change.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
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That is one of the most basic responsibilities of the federal government and the States most assuredly cannot decide not to comply in this.
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I'd have to think about it. Perhaps in that context maybe.
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I'd have to think about it. Perhaps in that context maybe.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
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SH --
Here's the actual text. Strict reading? No, I suppose not. But as the SCOTUS has recently informed us, "state" can also mean "federal government" sometimes, too. So there's that.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
Here's the actual text. Strict reading? No, I suppose not. But as the SCOTUS has recently informed us, "state" can also mean "federal government" sometimes, too. So there's that.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:16 PM (AkOaV)
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Maybe ICE Director Saldana just wanted to give illegals space to destroy lives. Ever think of that?
Posted by: High-Functioning Retread, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (Vf5rR)
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If your erection lasts longer than 6 minutes, you're a no-good, lying braggadocio.
Posted by: Fritz at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (UzPAd)
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>>The O and the Democrats can share the blame with their friends across the aisle.
Yes, and so what?
You'd think the GOP would have learned by now that you seize the moment and call out the opponent for their mistakes/poor policies. Period.
Not like Obama wasted any time pinning it on the GOP, eh?
Yes, and so what?
You'd think the GOP would have learned by now that you seize the moment and call out the opponent for their mistakes/poor policies. Period.
Not like Obama wasted any time pinning it on the GOP, eh?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (NOIQH)
150
Greek Papers ran out of paper.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (s2Kke)
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O'Reilly (the bloviator) has been on a tear, too. Calling Obama "complicit" in Kate Steinle's death.
He and Megyn are King and Queen of oppy news.
O'Reilly (the bloviator) has been on a tear, too. Calling Obama "complicit" in Kate Steinle's death.
He and Megyn are King and Queen of oppy news.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (qCMvj)
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But we don't live in a world where anyone reads the constitution strictly, so I kind of have less patience for this line of reasoning then I used to.
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There is definite truth there. Sticking to the Constitution becomes less of an excuse when no one else is.
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There is definite truth there. Sticking to the Constitution becomes less of an excuse when no one else is.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
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SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law?
How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
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And a legislature can now mean an unelected commission.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (gmeXX)
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141 127 exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (9221z)
Although from an aesthetics view I like the VF-2SS SAP but that's not canon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (9221z)
Although from an aesthetics view I like the VF-2SS SAP but that's not canon.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (9221z)
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O'Reilly (the bloviator) has been on a tear, too
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Next bool title, Killing Citizens?
O'Reilly (the bloviator) has been on a tear, too
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Next bool title, Killing Citizens?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:19 PM (J3phO)
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I cannot think of a moment I was more alienated from half the country. When I regarded these people as not even close to being fellow citizens.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
The dem national convention was a close second ... when they were all so proud and impressed with the Russian navy ...
Okay ... maybe not so close to the dems cheering and honoring the president of a country actively invading us bad-mouthing our country (and those who are resisting their invasion) ...
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:15 PM (QDnY+)
The dem national convention was a close second ... when they were all so proud and impressed with the Russian navy ...
Okay ... maybe not so close to the dems cheering and honoring the president of a country actively invading us bad-mouthing our country (and those who are resisting their invasion) ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 09, 2015 02:19 PM (MYSVz)
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Dow Jones now at +.35, headed down.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:19 PM (2cS/G)
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How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Because it was liberals who wanted to ignore the law.
If you wanted to ignore the law on say high cap magazines, or full auto rifles watch what happens.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Because it was liberals who wanted to ignore the law.
If you wanted to ignore the law on say high cap magazines, or full auto rifles watch what happens.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:20 PM (9221z)
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I watched BOR last night for the first time in a very long time. Jesse Waters confronted the SF Board on Steinle's death and held up her picture. Of course the weasels did not comment at all and he was dismissed.
I usually don't like Water's tactics as they become larger than the story, but last night was good.
I usually don't like Water's tactics as they become larger than the story, but last night was good.
Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2015 02:20 PM (oiNtH)
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How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223
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The people of the State voted for it and unlike most things, the Feds and their surrogates didn't take it to the Supremes.
Posted by: rickb223
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The people of the State voted for it and unlike most things, the Feds and their surrogates didn't take it to the Supremes.
Posted by: Daybrother at July 09, 2015 02:20 PM (FZs5J)
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O'Reilly (the bloviator) has been on a tear, too
Yeah, he knows a good populist issue when he sees one.
Yeah, he knows a good populist issue when he sees one.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (1ygMX)
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How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Nullification, frankly.
And i'm all for it. As long as we're consistent.
If CO can nullify federal drug laws, and CA can nullify federal immigration laws, then I don't want to hear ANY SHIT FROM ANYONE if, say TX, decides to nullify federal gun laws. Or federal environmental regulations. Or anything else they damn well want to ignore.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Nullification, frankly.
And i'm all for it. As long as we're consistent.
If CO can nullify federal drug laws, and CA can nullify federal immigration laws, then I don't want to hear ANY SHIT FROM ANYONE if, say TX, decides to nullify federal gun laws. Or federal environmental regulations. Or anything else they damn well want to ignore.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)
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Never let a crisis go to waste. Trump I think lucked into this one, but maybe he'll pick up on the tactic and stay on offense in other areas as well. Make it a daily beatdown to keep the enemy on their heels. He's got nowhere to go but up.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (Ilm6f)
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SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law?
How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
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I'd say its less ignoring federal law and more they do not have to enforce it. The state only has to enforce the law of that state. Just as the state of NY does not have to enforce the laws of NJ - the state of NY does not have to enforce the laws of the federal government.
Re CO - the state got rid of some of its weed laws. The federal laws still exist. But the federal government is not showing much enforcement of those laws at least in CO. But that is a good example.
How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
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I'd say its less ignoring federal law and more they do not have to enforce it. The state only has to enforce the law of that state. Just as the state of NY does not have to enforce the laws of NJ - the state of NY does not have to enforce the laws of the federal government.
Re CO - the state got rid of some of its weed laws. The federal laws still exist. But the federal government is not showing much enforcement of those laws at least in CO. But that is a good example.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (gmeXX)
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Iblis, if you want a wicked cool Macross book of artwork
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14, MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14, MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (nkc0T)
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131 That is, making it "safe" for the other GOP wimps to pile on and get some motion going.
WHAAAT? You think we're going out there you're crazy.
WHAAAT? You think we're going out there you're crazy.
Posted by: The other GOP wimps at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (SCcgT)
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"135 SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
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Yeah, this probably isn't an appropriate thread to discuss because there are serious consequences to what has happened here. I'm having a theoretical discussion - probably with no one but myself.
But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX) "
so we don't have to let the gehys get married to each other? saweet!
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Yeah, this probably isn't an appropriate thread to discuss because there are serious consequences to what has happened here. I'm having a theoretical discussion - probably with no one but myself.
But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX) "
so we don't have to let the gehys get married to each other? saweet!
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (fUjxW)
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exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
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I have read your comments that you are going through Macross Frontier right now. The VF-25G is a sweet ride and no mistake, but my heart is with the Koenig Monster.
exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
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I have read your comments that you are going through Macross Frontier right now. The VF-25G is a sweet ride and no mistake, but my heart is with the Koenig Monster.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (ry4ab)
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There's battle lines being drawn.
Posted by: Buffalo Springfield at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (VcOqI)
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+.27 and dropping fast. Perhaps losing faith in Greece bailout?
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Things heard and seen at the WH, post Megyn at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (qCMvj)
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The Hoover Damn just bought 52,000 rounds in late May. That's a lot of damn ammo.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (s2Kke)
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>>>> Posted by: Kreplach at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (VvoVZ)
There are kinda/sorta nameless persons who have such money that, when they appear at a Presidential gala, said President will knock over attendees to go shake his or her hand and grovel, take "advice", that kind of thing. And thats any President, any era.
Nice thing about Trump is he wouldn't be impressed. Nice for us, I mean. Nice for him. Not so much for those guys and gals.
There are kinda/sorta nameless persons who have such money that, when they appear at a Presidential gala, said President will knock over attendees to go shake his or her hand and grovel, take "advice", that kind of thing. And thats any President, any era.
Nice thing about Trump is he wouldn't be impressed. Nice for us, I mean. Nice for him. Not so much for those guys and gals.
Posted by: Bigby's One Hand Clapping at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (3ZtZW)
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Degradation index #59:that opposition to wholesale lawlessness on illegal immigration, which leads to massive fiscal and social ills and even to significant violent crime and loss of life, can be termed "populist" or "conservative".
Wow.
Of course it's not. Common sense and surveys indicate a huge super-majority of the country is (drum roll) opposed to insane lawlessness and the chaos and injustice that result. Has been forever.
I remain skeptical, based on the last 10 years, that any level of outrage or insanity will have consequences at the ballot box. There simply isn't any link between the rulers and ruled any longer, it seems.
Degradation index #59:that opposition to wholesale lawlessness on illegal immigration, which leads to massive fiscal and social ills and even to significant violent crime and loss of life, can be termed "populist" or "conservative".
Wow.
Of course it's not. Common sense and surveys indicate a huge super-majority of the country is (drum roll) opposed to insane lawlessness and the chaos and injustice that result. Has been forever.
I remain skeptical, based on the last 10 years, that any level of outrage or insanity will have consequences at the ballot box. There simply isn't any link between the rulers and ruled any longer, it seems.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (QDnY+)
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May I propose the following issues also receive Sanctuary Status.
Federal Firearms Regulations Sanctuary
Fetal Murder Sanctuary
EPA Treehugger Sanctuary
Department of Education and Common Core Sanctuary
IRS Witholding Sanctuary
May I propose the following issues also receive Sanctuary Status.
Federal Firearms Regulations Sanctuary
Fetal Murder Sanctuary
EPA Treehugger Sanctuary
Department of Education and Common Core Sanctuary
IRS Witholding Sanctuary
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (8XRCm)
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CO didn't nullify any federal law. They just eliminated their similar state law (or parts thereof).
The federal government could still try to enforce its federal law - which is arguably unconstitutional as outside the Commerce Clause.
The federal government could still try to enforce its federal law - which is arguably unconstitutional as outside the Commerce Clause.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (gmeXX)
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There is definite truth there. Sticking to the Constitution becomes less of an excuse when no one else is.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
Yes. If it's a "fluid" "living breathing" document, then I don't want to hear anything about the particulars on case law from 150 years ago that interpret words to mean something other than what they mean that limits my freedoms because, constitution.
If you need a state-approved license to bear arms and THAT requirement is constitutional, then I'm not going to be literalist when it comes to laws I'd want to pass.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
Yes. If it's a "fluid" "living breathing" document, then I don't want to hear anything about the particulars on case law from 150 years ago that interpret words to mean something other than what they mean that limits my freedoms because, constitution.
If you need a state-approved license to bear arms and THAT requirement is constitutional, then I'm not going to be literalist when it comes to laws I'd want to pass.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (AkOaV)
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90 We are at war.
"War" requires both sides to be fighting each other. THEY are fighting against us. WE are bitching to each other on the Internet.
"War" requires both sides to be fighting each other. THEY are fighting against us. WE are bitching to each other on the Internet.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (xsEwF)
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There's a warning sign on the road ahead.
Posted by: Neil Young at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (Ui7Rt)
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166 Iblis, if you want a wicked cool Macross book of artwork
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14, MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (nkc0T)
Thanks! I'll check it out.
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14, MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (nkc0T)
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (9221z)
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And the democrats think we're the evil ones. The last convention where they boo'ed God was very telling too. To this crowd it is not God Bless America, it is God damn America. For real
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (fLKzW)
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173 The Hoover Damn just bought 52,000 rounds in late May. That's a lot of damn ammo.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (s2Kke)
Silly Boss Moss you fill the holes in the dam with lead.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:22 PM (s2Kke)
Silly Boss Moss you fill the holes in the dam with lead.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (J3phO)
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We don't need Neil Young around anyhow.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (s2Kke)
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How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Nullification, frankly.
And i'm all for it. As long as we're consistent.
If CO can nullify federal drug laws, and CA can nullify federal
immigration laws, then I don't want to hear ANY SHIT FROM ANYONE if, say
TX, decides to nullify federal gun laws. Or federal environmental
regulations. Or anything else they damn well want to ignore.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)
That's almost it. Both WA and CO got a memo of understanding or some such that the DOJ would not pursue action in or against WA or CO for violating existing federal law. This was one of the first things, in conjunction with suing AZ over SB 1070 (immigration enforcement) that began the slow slide of respect for law in this country.
It became clear then that we were becoming a nation of, not laws, but men.
Executive Amnesty is just another nail in the coffin.
How did Colorado ignore fed law on weed?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:18 PM (5fXFG)
Nullification, frankly.
And i'm all for it. As long as we're consistent.
If CO can nullify federal drug laws, and CA can nullify federal
immigration laws, then I don't want to hear ANY SHIT FROM ANYONE if, say
TX, decides to nullify federal gun laws. Or federal environmental
regulations. Or anything else they damn well want to ignore.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)
That's almost it. Both WA and CO got a memo of understanding or some such that the DOJ would not pursue action in or against WA or CO for violating existing federal law. This was one of the first things, in conjunction with suing AZ over SB 1070 (immigration enforcement) that began the slow slide of respect for law in this country.
It became clear then that we were becoming a nation of, not laws, but men.
Executive Amnesty is just another nail in the coffin.
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (Vf5rR)
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177 CO didn't nullify any federal law. They just eliminated their similar state law (or parts thereof).
The federal government could still try to enforce its federal law - which is arguably unconstitutional as outside the Commerce Clause.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (gmeXX)
Well, they essentially did nullify a federal law.
The FDA classifies marijuana as a schedule I drug -- no medical use, highly abuseable. Congress has made all schedule I drugs illegal in the US.
CO decided to ignore federal law and allow citizens and stores in their jurisdiction to flaunt federal law in regards to marijuana.
That sounds like nullification to me.
The federal government could still try to enforce its federal law - which is arguably unconstitutional as outside the Commerce Clause.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (gmeXX)
Well, they essentially did nullify a federal law.
The FDA classifies marijuana as a schedule I drug -- no medical use, highly abuseable. Congress has made all schedule I drugs illegal in the US.
CO decided to ignore federal law and allow citizens and stores in their jurisdiction to flaunt federal law in regards to marijuana.
That sounds like nullification to me.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (nkc0T)
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180 There's a warning sign on the road ahead.
Posted by: Neil Young at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (Ui7Rt
Saying you better not be drinking Monsato laced Star Bucks Java
Oh wrong period
Posted by: Neil Young at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (Ui7Rt
Saying you better not be drinking Monsato laced Star Bucks Java
Oh wrong period
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (J3phO)
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Lewis: The law? Ha! The law?! What law?! Where's the law, Drew? Huh? You believe in democracy, don't ya?Drew: Yes, I do.Lewis: ell then, we'll take a vote. I'll stand by it and so will you.
Posted by: Deliverance at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (VcOqI)
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"Obummer has said for the record that he was chosen to manage America's decline."
DECLINE: Your car rusts from neglect.
NOT DECLINE: Blasting holes in your car with a shotgun.
DECLINE: Your car rusts from neglect.
NOT DECLINE: Blasting holes in your car with a shotgun.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (xsEwF)
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OT: Something for the WTF category
In a move that's prompting questions about the stockpiling of weapons by the federal government's nonmilitary agencies, the Bureau of Reclamation wants to buy 52,000 rounds of ammunition for use in law enforcement at Hoover Dam and Lake Mead.
In a move that's prompting questions about the stockpiling of weapons by the federal government's nonmilitary agencies, the Bureau of Reclamation wants to buy 52,000 rounds of ammunition for use in law enforcement at Hoover Dam and Lake Mead.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (sgrzZ)
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So Sanctuary Cities are also local policies -- aren't the local decision-makers, the people who told local LEOs the policy is to release, more politically accountable (and vulnerable) than the President? I mean, if the aim is policy change, can't you come closer to making some County Executive pay the price than Barack Obama?
I understand the frustration, I'm talking about the remedies here.
I understand the frustration, I'm talking about the remedies here.
Posted by: DrSteve at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (wwKgz)
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I watched BOR last night for the first time in a very long time. Jesse Waters confronted the SF Board on Steinle's death and held up her picture. Of course the weasels did not comment at all and he was dismissed.
I usually don't like Water's tactics as they become larger than the story, but last night was good.
Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2015 02:20 PM (oiNtH)
they wouldn't even look at him when he spoke and held up the picture
he said later to O'Reilly, that to them it's just casualties of war, it did not move them at all.
Their ideology trumps the death of that woman. It really is sick. I saw one guy just reading his blackberry.
I usually don't like Water's tactics as they become larger than the story, but last night was good.
Posted by: Cheri at July 09, 2015 02:20 PM (oiNtH)
they wouldn't even look at him when he spoke and held up the picture
he said later to O'Reilly, that to them it's just casualties of war, it did not move them at all.
Their ideology trumps the death of that woman. It really is sick. I saw one guy just reading his blackberry.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (qCMvj)
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Good to see Perry bringing it down to specific levels of policy, Presnit JEM would of course go even further but I'm not an official candidate and my stance on jailing Obama and Jarrett for life if Iran gets a nuke might put some folks off...
Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (o+SC1)
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We don't need Neil Young around anyhow.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (s2Kke)
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And I hope Neil Young will remember...
... neil young at least remembers how the lyrics go....
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 09, 2015 02:24 PM (s2Kke)
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And I hope Neil Young will remember...
... neil young at least remembers how the lyrics go....
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (8XRCm)
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"War" requires both sides to be fighting each other. THEY are fighting against us. WE are bitching to each other on the Internet.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (xsEwF)
No. It takes two to tango but only one to make war.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:23 PM (xsEwF)
No. It takes two to tango but only one to make war.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (MYSVz)
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Perry's comments are politically good, and I guess if we are going to allow the federal government the power to coerce states, we might as well use it for things we conservatives like.
But I'd just assume that the federal government stop giving money to the states and take less from the states to begin with.
But I guess I might as well wish for unicorns too.
But I'd just assume that the federal government stop giving money to the states and take less from the states to begin with.
But I guess I might as well wish for unicorns too.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (gmeXX)
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Maybe I was wrong after all.
Posted by: Zombie Abe Lincoln at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (VcOqI)
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How do we go about getting Martha's Vineyard listed as a Sanctuary City?
It probably is.
Salt Lake freaking City is a Sanctuary City. What?
It probably is.
Salt Lake freaking City is a Sanctuary City. What?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (J3phO)
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135
SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it
that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be
just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
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But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
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It's not a situation where the Feds can or need to make the state in question enforce the law. The Feds will show up and claim jurisdiction based on Federal law, and the state authorities will surrender the dirtbag in question to their custody when all the paperwork is filed.
SH, don't wanna go too deep into these particular weeds, but how is it
that states/cities can just ignore federal law? If true, wouldn't be
just in general chaos, all the time? Don't get your drift on that.
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But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
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It's not a situation where the Feds can or need to make the state in question enforce the law. The Feds will show up and claim jurisdiction based on Federal law, and the state authorities will surrender the dirtbag in question to their custody when all the paperwork is filed.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (ry4ab)
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@193 - look, casualties at the hands of illegals is not a new thing in SF. This is at least the third high-profile incident I can recall, don't have time even for a google for details right now.
The Supervisors do the Pontius Pilate thing and the media complies and that's the end of it.
The Supervisors do the Pontius Pilate thing and the media complies and that's the end of it.
Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at July 09, 2015 02:28 PM (o+SC1)
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192 So Sanctuary Cities are also local policies -- aren't the local decision-makers, the people who told local LEOs the policy is to release, more politically accountable (and vulnerable) than the President? I mean, if the aim is policy change, can't you come closer to making some County Executive pay the price than Barack Obama?
I understand the frustration, I'm talking about the remedies here.
Posted by: DrSteve at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (wwKgz)
The problem is that these cities are all Lib Machine dominated cities. The answer is to deny these cities any and all Federal funds. whether its money for roads, schools, housing, healthcare, whatever. Deny them money, and they'll change policy.
I understand the frustration, I'm talking about the remedies here.
Posted by: DrSteve at July 09, 2015 02:26 PM (wwKgz)
The problem is that these cities are all Lib Machine dominated cities. The answer is to deny these cities any and all Federal funds. whether its money for roads, schools, housing, healthcare, whatever. Deny them money, and they'll change policy.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:28 PM (9221z)
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the Bureau of Reclamation wants to buy 52,000 rounds of ammunition for use in law enforcement at Hoover Dam and Lake Mead.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (sgrzZ)
You've never heard of redneck fishing? Not much else for the "federal law enforcement agents" who hang out on top of the dam to do all day.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:25 PM (sgrzZ)
You've never heard of redneck fishing? Not much else for the "federal law enforcement agents" who hang out on top of the dam to do all day.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:29 PM (AkOaV)
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Oh yeah Ibliss, check out this guest list. Serious Robotech overload of voice actors
http://www.sabotencon.com/guest-article/listing.html
Yeah the VF-2SS SAP is not cannon but stuff from it has leaked into cannon like Luca's drones.
http://www.sabotencon.com/guest-article/listing.html
Yeah the VF-2SS SAP is not cannon but stuff from it has leaked into cannon like Luca's drones.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:29 PM (nkc0T)
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Is Detroit a sanctuary city?
Posted by: Zombie Abe Lincoln at July 09, 2015 02:29 PM (VcOqI)
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Stop hey what's that sound.... Everybody look what's going down
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at July 09, 2015 02:29 PM (fLKzW)
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Unless
my memory's fading, I cannot recall the "opposition" party using that
jaw-dropping event - in any way, ever. Funny, used to be that when one
side did something that would repel up to 75% of the country - on tape,
in the f***king House chamber - the other side would exploit it
ruthlessly. As they should. For electoral gain, for policy change.
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Two words, rhomboid: political correctness.
Unless
my memory's fading, I cannot recall the "opposition" party using that
jaw-dropping event - in any way, ever. Funny, used to be that when one
side did something that would repel up to 75% of the country - on tape,
in the f***king House chamber - the other side would exploit it
ruthlessly. As they should. For electoral gain, for policy change.
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Two words, rhomboid: political correctness.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:29 PM (ry4ab)
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Weird, I've been told reliably that the power of the purse is a ridiculous thing and how dare anyone suggest it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at July 09, 2015 02:30 PM (mf5HN)
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In a move that's prompting questions about the stockpiling of weapons by the federal government's nonmilitary agencies, the Bureau of Reclamation wants to buy 52,000 rounds of ammunition for use in law enforcement at Hoover Dam and Lake Mead.
Posted by: wrg500
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Sounds reasonable to me. How many work there - a few dozen? Not that out of line, especially if any of them are morons.
Posted by: wrg500
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Sounds reasonable to me. How many work there - a few dozen? Not that out of line, especially if any of them are morons.
Posted by: Roy at July 09, 2015 02:30 PM (VndSC)
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Rick Perry better not cut it off as it brings Huma mucho macho pleasure....
Posted by: Hillary with a Wang! at July 09, 2015 02:30 PM (D0NZx)
Posted by: pj at July 09, 2015 02:31 PM (cHuNI)
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It's not a situation where the Feds can or need to make the state in question enforce the law. The Feds will show up and claim jurisdiction based on Federal law, and the state authorities will surrender the dirtbag in question to their custody when all the paperwork is filed.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (ry4ab)
Well, in a situation like this, the question is can they COERCE the state (city) to house a prisoner and "hold them" on a federal warrant then notify the feds they have them then wait for the feds to show up.
I mean, clearly its a very routine thing for one jurisdiction to hold someone until another jurisdiction comes to pick them up. But can the feds FORCE a city to do so? As in, if the city refuses to, can they... arrest the jailers who released them? Fine the city? Shut off federal funding?
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:27 PM (ry4ab)
Well, in a situation like this, the question is can they COERCE the state (city) to house a prisoner and "hold them" on a federal warrant then notify the feds they have them then wait for the feds to show up.
I mean, clearly its a very routine thing for one jurisdiction to hold someone until another jurisdiction comes to pick them up. But can the feds FORCE a city to do so? As in, if the city refuses to, can they... arrest the jailers who released them? Fine the city? Shut off federal funding?
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:31 PM (AkOaV)
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OldThread:
JackStraw " In any case, Bush won enough Latino votes twice. "
No he really didn't. He won more than any previous R but 41% is still losing. He just didn't face the 95+% black vote that sunk McCain and Romney.
JackStraw " In any case, Bush won enough Latino votes twice. "
No he really didn't. He won more than any previous R but 41% is still losing. He just didn't face the 95+% black vote that sunk McCain and Romney.
Posted by: DaveA at July 09, 2015 02:31 PM (DL2i+)
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Yeah... What the Fuck was I thinking
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at July 09, 2015 02:31 PM (fLKzW)
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66 Oh goodie. I like when jokes are funny.
Posted by: Wendy at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (KydDZ)
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209 Weird, I've been told reliably that the power of the purse is a ridiculous thing and how dare anyone suggest it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at July 09, 2015
Depends if the purse clashes with the rest of the ensemble. With the case of the GOPe it isn't.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at July 09, 2015
Depends if the purse clashes with the rest of the ensemble. With the case of the GOPe it isn't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (J3phO)
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It's not a situation where the Feds can or need to make the state in question enforce the law. The Feds will show up and claim jurisdiction based on Federal law, and the state authorities will surrender the dirtbag in question to their custody when all the paperwork is filed.
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Let me turn this. What if there was a federal law limiting open carry which is legal in Texas. Texas picks someone up on an unrelated charge. ATF says to hold the person until they get there. Texas processes him and lets him go because the Gov has basically said we are not going to hold any suspect for ATF if we have no other reason to hold him.
I'd have no problem with that.
I'm just being argumentative today.
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Let me turn this. What if there was a federal law limiting open carry which is legal in Texas. Texas picks someone up on an unrelated charge. ATF says to hold the person until they get there. Texas processes him and lets him go because the Gov has basically said we are not going to hold any suspect for ATF if we have no other reason to hold him.
I'd have no problem with that.
I'm just being argumentative today.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (WOzHv)
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Nobody's right if everybody's wrong.
Posted by: Zombie Abe Lincoln at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (VcOqI)
Posted by: Bigby's One Hand Clapping at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (3ZtZW)
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"Deny them money, and they'll change policy."
This is why Trump is doing well. People believe he'd do that because he plays hardball.
GOPe? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Advantage Trump.
This is why Trump is doing well. People believe he'd do that because he plays hardball.
GOPe? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Advantage Trump.
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 02:33 PM (dUCZ6)
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I'd have no problem with that.
I'm just being argumentative today.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (gmeXX)
I get what you're throwing out there. And it's an interesting point.
And for your example (and the guy in San Fran) it's not like the local LEOs are dismissing the warrant. They're just ignoring it.
So ICE was perfectly able to walk around San Fran and look for cigarette smoking sea lion shooting amigos who they had warrants for. They just ... they don't do that.
ATF on the other hand would, haha. They'd come after you with tanks and smoke grenades.
I'm just being argumentative today.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:32 PM (gmeXX)
I get what you're throwing out there. And it's an interesting point.
And for your example (and the guy in San Fran) it's not like the local LEOs are dismissing the warrant. They're just ignoring it.
So ICE was perfectly able to walk around San Fran and look for cigarette smoking sea lion shooting amigos who they had warrants for. They just ... they don't do that.
ATF on the other hand would, haha. They'd come after you with tanks and smoke grenades.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:34 PM (AkOaV)
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President Trump first day
0700 - Everyone appointed by Gaylord is fired.
0701 - Every EO signed by Gaylord is rescinded
0702 - Fumigate the White House.
0700 - Everyone appointed by Gaylord is fired.
0701 - Every EO signed by Gaylord is rescinded
0702 - Fumigate the White House.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:34 PM (nkc0T)
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141 127 exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (9221z)
Although from an aesthetics view I like the VF-2SS SAP but that's not canon.
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For what it's worth the VF-2SS is AU-canon. Kawamori never disowned Macross 2, he just moved it to AU status when he got some different ideas on how things should go about the time of Macross 7. And yes the VF-2SS is a sleek machine.
141 127 exdem13, I want my VF-25G with space fold capability.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:11 PM (nkc0T)
I always had a soft spot for the YF-19 with space fold myself.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (9221z)
Although from an aesthetics view I like the VF-2SS SAP but that's not canon.
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For what it's worth the VF-2SS is AU-canon. Kawamori never disowned Macross 2, he just moved it to AU status when he got some different ideas on how things should go about the time of Macross 7. And yes the VF-2SS is a sleek machine.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:34 PM (ry4ab)
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I'd bet Trump would get more black male votes than Hillary. Why? He's "gangsta."
Hillary is nothing to them.
Hillary is nothing to them.
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 02:34 PM (dUCZ6)
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Actually, defending against invasion is one of the very few responsibilities that the federal is tasked by the Constitution, with tons of extra powers in order to effectively carry that out. That is one of the most basic responsibilities of the federal government and the States most assuredly cannot decide not to comply in this.
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I don't think the Founders ever imagined that officers of the Federal government would actually enable a foreign invasion, and that all available mechanisms for dealing with the treason would be taken off the table by the other branches of government.
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I don't think the Founders ever imagined that officers of the Federal government would actually enable a foreign invasion, and that all available mechanisms for dealing with the treason would be taken off the table by the other branches of government.
Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (xsEwF)
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Up .16% and falling, on somewhat low volume.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (2cS/G)
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Is what Perry's pushing essentially the same as what Sen. Tom Cotton announced yesterday?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
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She was HOT as the green skinned chick in Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, wait, wrong Saldana.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (2Ojst)
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Speaking of legal weed, I have a question.
How in the world are LEOs supposed to figure out if you're under the influence when you're driving? With alcohol they can take your blood and say "Yep. 0.10, they're over the limit."
With weed there's no similar test. Hair and blood both will have THC from two weeks ago if you're a regular smoker.
Roadside sobriety tests are a joke, scientifically. There are huge swathes of the population that can't balance on one leg with their eyes closed even when stone cold sober.
How in the world are LEOs supposed to figure out if you're under the influence when you're driving? With alcohol they can take your blood and say "Yep. 0.10, they're over the limit."
With weed there's no similar test. Hair and blood both will have THC from two weeks ago if you're a regular smoker.
Roadside sobriety tests are a joke, scientifically. There are huge swathes of the population that can't balance on one leg with their eyes closed even when stone cold sober.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: pj at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (cHuNI)
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France has arrived at the Greek/German party and is apparently trying to Save Le Day.
Posted by: Feh at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (dUCZ6)
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232 SF got $40 million last year to deport criminal aliens.
What happened to the money?
Posted by: pj at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (cHuNI)
Anal lube and assless chaps.
What happened to the money?
Posted by: pj at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (cHuNI)
Anal lube and assless chaps.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (2Ojst)
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Posted by: despair at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (xsEwF)
well, through case law, stare decisis, and institutional rot and corruption, we'd eliminated all constitutional protections against fedzilla while finding new constitutional protections that just so happen to protect fedzilla employees and politicians.
So... basically fucked. Took 200+ years though. Not an overnight thing.
well, through case law, stare decisis, and institutional rot and corruption, we'd eliminated all constitutional protections against fedzilla while finding new constitutional protections that just so happen to protect fedzilla employees and politicians.
So... basically fucked. Took 200+ years though. Not an overnight thing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
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The Bandai 1/100th scale transforming VF-2SS SAP kit is still available but backordered.
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN953440/Sci
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN953440/Sci
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (nkc0T)
Posted by: Bigby's One Hand Clapping at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (3ZtZW)
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236 Rick Perry and Megyn Kelly in the same post?
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
Um...
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
Um...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (2Ojst)
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Roadside sobriety tests are a joke, scientifically. There are huge swathes of the population that can't balance on one leg with their eyes closed even when stone cold sober.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (jhqr1)
DUI breathalyzers are also a joke, scientifically. They use an artificial "average" baseline for the amount of alcohol we have naturally in our systems. Of course, everyone is different.
For weed? They have saliva tests that are fairly accurate and inexpensive.
But uh... why not just arrest someone if they're driving recklessly and ... don't arrest them if they're not?
Is it really that complicated?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (jhqr1)
DUI breathalyzers are also a joke, scientifically. They use an artificial "average" baseline for the amount of alcohol we have naturally in our systems. Of course, everyone is different.
For weed? They have saliva tests that are fairly accurate and inexpensive.
But uh... why not just arrest someone if they're driving recklessly and ... don't arrest them if they're not?
Is it really that complicated?
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (AkOaV)
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The answer is to deny these cities any and all
Federal funds. whether its money for roads, schools, housing,
healthcare, whatever. Deny them money, and they'll change policy.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:28 PM
But that requires a government in D.C. that wants to enforce the laws, which we do not have.
Remember when Washington got all pissy (Jimmuh Carter, I think) about handing out highway money because some states weren't enforcing speed limits?
I can imagine Choom Boy pulling back funds to any state that doesn't ban the CBF or allows a statue of a Confederate bigwig to stand, but that's about it.
Federal funds. whether its money for roads, schools, housing,
healthcare, whatever. Deny them money, and they'll change policy.
Posted by: Iblis at July 09, 2015 02:28 PM
But that requires a government in D.C. that wants to enforce the laws, which we do not have.
Remember when Washington got all pissy (Jimmuh Carter, I think) about handing out highway money because some states weren't enforcing speed limits?
I can imagine Choom Boy pulling back funds to any state that doesn't ban the CBF or allows a statue of a Confederate bigwig to stand, but that's about it.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (P8YHq)
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (gmeXX)
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How in the world are LEOs supposed to figure out if you're under the influence when you're driving?
If they can walk alongside of your car while you are driving, you are probably stoned.
If they can walk alongside of your car while you are driving, you are probably stoned.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (5fXFG)
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"France has arrived at the Greek/German party and is apparently trying to Save Le Day."
Sacre Bleu!
Sacre Bleu!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (LA7Cm)
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Rick Perry and Megyn Kelly in the same post?
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
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Please tell me that only one occupies your minds eye.
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
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Please tell me that only one occupies your minds eye.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:39 PM (8XRCm)
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245 Rick Perry and Megyn Kelly in the same post?
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
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Please tell me that only one occupies your minds eye.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:39 PM (8XRCm)
He's gonna occupy my stiff one-eye!
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: wooga at July 09, 2015 02:37 PM (skLky)
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Please tell me that only one occupies your minds eye.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:39 PM (8XRCm)
He's gonna occupy my stiff one-eye!
Posted by: Rick Perry at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (2Ojst)
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Hopefully France is the wimpy third guy in, throwing a couple weak slaps just to say they were involved.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (LA7Cm)
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>>>> How in the world are LEOs supposed to figure out if you're under the influence when you're driving?
By the number of of empty bags of cheetos in the backseat.
By the number of of empty bags of cheetos in the backseat.
Posted by: Bigby's One Hand Clapping at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (3ZtZW)
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Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (5fXFG)
yeah. I mean it's not like this is a "new" issue.
People have been getting high and driving for decades. Cops arrest people for DUI for drugs every day, whether its marijuana, opiates, prescription drugs, OTC drugs, whatever. Basically, the officer thinks you're impaired, you fail the field sobriety test, and he charges you with DUI.
I don't know why this is suddenly becoming a thing.
yeah. I mean it's not like this is a "new" issue.
People have been getting high and driving for decades. Cops arrest people for DUI for drugs every day, whether its marijuana, opiates, prescription drugs, OTC drugs, whatever. Basically, the officer thinks you're impaired, you fail the field sobriety test, and he charges you with DUI.
I don't know why this is suddenly becoming a thing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (nkc0T)
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Meh, not gonna hold my breath, turn blue and stamp my feet because I know I'll just get stabbed in the back.
Posted by: Gmac- 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (4CRfK)
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Iblis, if you want a wicked cool Macross book of artwork
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has
the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14,
MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
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A friend of mine spent his food budget on it one month some years ago, it is as awesome as advertised.
Canaria Bernstein is one hot mama with much....ability. I would serve under her any day.
Iblis, if you want a wicked cool Macross book of artwork
http://www.hlj.com/product/KOB90124/Boo
Has
the VF-0s, VF-1s, SV-51, YF-19, YF-21, VB-6 Konig Monster, F-14,
MiG-29, and even as a big surprise artwork of a Spitfire Mk.1.
-------------
A friend of mine spent his food budget on it one month some years ago, it is as awesome as advertised.
Canaria Bernstein is one hot mama with much....ability. I would serve under her any day.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:40 PM (ry4ab)
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108 Less than two hours to reach a Greek Solution.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
Isnt it, Bend over I'll drive?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (J3phO)
Mostly, I drive.
108 Less than two hours to reach a Greek Solution.
Posted by: LincolnTf at July 09, 2015 02:07 PM (2cS/G)
Isnt it, Bend over I'll drive?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:14 PM (J3phO)
Mostly, I drive.
Posted by: Reggie, the butt fucker at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (0FSuD)
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This post kinda parallels a piece I linked this morning"
V.A. Scandal Linked to Obama
His sham reliance on "acting Inspectors General" means permanent cover-ups and corruption.
...
Obama has refused to fill the Inspector General's job at the VA since December, 2013. Until last week, Griffin was the placeholder. Instead of monitoring VA performance, he did just the opposite, covering up and punishing whistleblowers.
Pressured by the White House, Griffin actually changed the wording in a draft report on vets dying at the Phoenix VA in 2014 to understate fatalities.
When the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America and POGO put up a website asking VA workers with first- hand knowledge of problems to come forward, some 800 did. Within weeks, Griffin tried to subpoena their names. "It had a chilling effect," said Brian.
Read more at http://spectator.org/articles/63393/va-scandal-linked-obama
This administration is threatening and bullying anyone and everyone that gets in their way.
People should have figured this out a long time ago about Obama. He was willing to use his own grandmother, who raised him, to divide the country along racial lines. He is filth.
This post kinda parallels a piece I linked this morning"
V.A. Scandal Linked to Obama
His sham reliance on "acting Inspectors General" means permanent cover-ups and corruption.
...
Obama has refused to fill the Inspector General's job at the VA since December, 2013. Until last week, Griffin was the placeholder. Instead of monitoring VA performance, he did just the opposite, covering up and punishing whistleblowers.
Pressured by the White House, Griffin actually changed the wording in a draft report on vets dying at the Phoenix VA in 2014 to understate fatalities.
When the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America and POGO put up a website asking VA workers with first- hand knowledge of problems to come forward, some 800 did. Within weeks, Griffin tried to subpoena their names. "It had a chilling effect," said Brian.
Read more at http://spectator.org/articles/63393/va-scandal-linked-obama
This administration is threatening and bullying anyone and everyone that gets in their way.
People should have figured this out a long time ago about Obama. He was willing to use his own grandmother, who raised him, to divide the country along racial lines. He is filth.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (qCMvj)
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The whole thing is seriously fcuked up and evil.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
Yes. Exactly. People are being abused, people are being killed. Lawlessness on the border is a huge problem for everyone, except criminals and Obama.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
Yes. Exactly. People are being abused, people are being killed. Lawlessness on the border is a huge problem for everyone, except criminals and Obama.
Posted by: Lea at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: TickledPink at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (RLFFI)
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Beer summit professor. On it.
Trayvon. On it.
Ferguson. On it.
Baltimore. On it.
San Fran? Local crime story.
Trayvon. On it.
Ferguson. On it.
Baltimore. On it.
San Fran? Local crime story.
Posted by: Preznit Barrycade at July 09, 2015 02:42 PM (bgKZk)
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"France has arrived at the Greek/German party and is apparently trying to Save Le Day."
Sacre Bleu!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (LA7Cm)
So, I guess the Russian paid for that aircraft carrier they didn't get?
"France has arrived at the Greek/German party and is apparently trying to Save Le Day."
Sacre Bleu!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:38 PM (LA7Cm)
So, I guess the Russian paid for that aircraft carrier they didn't get?
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 09, 2015 02:42 PM (0FSuD)
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I enjoy the chaos Trump is causing as much as the next SMOD acolyte, but in the end he is another Rubio in the making, isnt he? Playing the immigration hawk for the benefit of those conservative voters who are desperate to believe a Republican and pulling a 180 as soon as he would arrive in DC (which will never happen anyway).
Posted by: Harley Quinn at July 09, 2015 02:42 PM (368mz)
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exdem13, you really don't want to know how much I paid for my copy at A-kon one year. One dealer had two copies. Snagged one then went to find friend. Dragged friend to dealer and second copy was already sold. This was on Friday. And there were no other copies to be had at the con.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (nkc0T)
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But the gist of it is this. States are independent sovereigns. They cannot be commandeered to enforce federal law.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX)
The glory and dignity and beauty of man-ass love now trumps such silly things as the 10th Amendment. You are a hater and doody head.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX)
The glory and dignity and beauty of man-ass love now trumps such silly things as the 10th Amendment. You are a hater and doody head.
Posted by: Justass Kennedy at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (skLky)
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Posted by: Brian_AL at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (V2QDI)
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256 The whole thing is seriously fcuked up and evil.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
Yes. Exactly. People are being abused, people are being killed. Lawlessness on the border is a huge problem for everyone, except criminals and Obama.
Posted by: Lea at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (lIU4e)
Obama's a sociopath, or at least a malignant narcissist. He doesn't give a wet fart about other people or even see them as beings with innate value or feelings. He cares only about himself and his agenda.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
Yes. Exactly. People are being abused, people are being killed. Lawlessness on the border is a huge problem for everyone, except criminals and Obama.
Posted by: Lea at July 09, 2015 02:41 PM (lIU4e)
Obama's a sociopath, or at least a malignant narcissist. He doesn't give a wet fart about other people or even see them as beings with innate value or feelings. He cares only about himself and his agenda.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (2Ojst)
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But uh... why not just arrest someone if they're driving recklessly and ... don't arrest them if they're not?
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Silly person. You don't make any money that way.
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Silly person. You don't make any money that way.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (Q2akM)
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San Fran? Local crime story.
Posted by: Preznit Barrycade at July 09, 2015 02:42 PM (bgKZk)
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#whitelivesdontmatter ???
Posted by: Preznit Barrycade at July 09, 2015 02:42 PM (bgKZk)
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#whitelivesdontmatter ???
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (2Ojst)
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190
"Obummer has said for the record that he was chosen to manage America's decline."
DECLINE: Your car rusts from neglect.
NOT DECLINE: Blasting holes in your car with a shotgun.
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If Obummer wanted the car to be good he would have those guys from Overhaulin' come fetch it and do the makeover. But he just wants the insurance money, and the insurance agent owes him a favor.
"Obummer has said for the record that he was chosen to manage America's decline."
DECLINE: Your car rusts from neglect.
NOT DECLINE: Blasting holes in your car with a shotgun.
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If Obummer wanted the car to be good he would have those guys from Overhaulin' come fetch it and do the makeover. But he just wants the insurance money, and the insurance agent owes him a favor.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (ry4ab)
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And.... instead of Miss Macross...
We have Miss Barrel with us!
Give them a round of applause and some Handi-Wipes. They will need it.
We have Miss Barrel with us!
Give them a round of applause and some Handi-Wipes. They will need it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (nkc0T)
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People have been getting high and driving for decades. Cops arrest people for DUI for drugs every day, whether its marijuana, opiates, prescription drugs, OTC drugs, whatever. Basically, the officer thinks you're impaired, you fail the field sobriety test, and he charges you with DUI.
The cop can charge you with anything he wants. He has to get the charge to stand up in court.
All clever lawyers have to do is say, "Prove it". My client says he had low blood sugar, that's why he's acting a little loopy. Do you have a test that proves he smoked weed within two hours of driving? No?
The cop can charge you with anything he wants. He has to get the charge to stand up in court.
All clever lawyers have to do is say, "Prove it". My client says he had low blood sugar, that's why he's acting a little loopy. Do you have a test that proves he smoked weed within two hours of driving? No?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (jhqr1)
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I got in before the barrel!
Posted by: Justass Kennedy at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (skLky)
Posted by: The Barrel at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Francis the Sandman at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (bgKZk)
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Silly person. You don't make any money that way.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (Q2akM)
'spose not.
They need super duper pseudo sciencey breathing machines to scare the shit out of people so that they pay a bunch of money to avoid going to jail.
SO WEED MUST STAY ILLEGAL!!!
because, revenue.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 09, 2015 02:43 PM (Q2akM)
'spose not.
They need super duper pseudo sciencey breathing machines to scare the shit out of people so that they pay a bunch of money to avoid going to jail.
SO WEED MUST STAY ILLEGAL!!!
because, revenue.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Brian_AL at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (V2QDI)
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Uh-oh.....
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (sgrzZ)
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275 umm wtf?
Kinda scared to press post...
Posted by: Brian_AL at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (V2QDI)
You'll be pressing post from The Barrel, just not the post you wanted.
Kinda scared to press post...
Posted by: Brian_AL at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (V2QDI)
You'll be pressing post from The Barrel, just not the post you wanted.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (2Ojst)
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All clever lawyers have to do is say, "Prove it". My client says he had low blood sugar, that's why he's acting a little loopy. Do you have a test that proves he smoked weed within two hours of driving? No?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (jhqr1)
Oh, you don't get a jury trial is you're arrested for DUI.
DUI is kind of... outside the realm of normal law. It's traffic court. Except its a felony.
And they convict people every day of exactly the scenario you describe, and unless you're a Kennedy who can claim to be sleep drinking and driving, you're not getting off.
Also why they have dash cam video recordings of the stop.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2015 02:44 PM (jhqr1)
Oh, you don't get a jury trial is you're arrested for DUI.
DUI is kind of... outside the realm of normal law. It's traffic court. Except its a felony.
And they convict people every day of exactly the scenario you describe, and unless you're a Kennedy who can claim to be sleep drinking and driving, you're not getting off.
Also why they have dash cam video recordings of the stop.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Barrel at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (8XRCm)
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Today, I am proposing to pull funding for the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program--or SCAAP--rom sanctuary citie
Rick Perry
So following the discussion/debate about fed/state nullification. I think Perry hits a homer on this one.
Rick Perry
So following the discussion/debate about fed/state nullification. I think Perry hits a homer on this one.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (J3phO)
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>>umm wtf? Kinda scared to press post...
Never copy/paste from a Word doc, because it brings over the formatting.
Never copy/paste from a Word doc, because it brings over the formatting.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:47 PM (NOIQH)
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Yeehaw, Brian_AL!
Posted by: The Barrel, Confederate Flag Version at July 09, 2015 02:47 PM (Vf5rR)
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So Paris is going to surrender to Athens?
What is this? Trojan War II?
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No, Paris is gonna steal Hellene (sic) and leave Berlin in the form of Menelaus holding the bag.
So Paris is going to surrender to Athens?
What is this? Trojan War II?
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No, Paris is gonna steal Hellene (sic) and leave Berlin in the form of Menelaus holding the bag.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:47 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Mohamad at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (81UWZ)
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Never copy/paste from a Word doc, because it brings over the formatting.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:47 PM (NOIQH)
In fact, to be safe, never copy and paste anything over to the hq.
Especially if it involves "smart" punctuation. If you see curvy ' " or even , ... well, you'll find out.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:47 PM (NOIQH)
In fact, to be safe, never copy and paste anything over to the hq.
Especially if it involves "smart" punctuation. If you see curvy ' " or even , ... well, you'll find out.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (AkOaV)
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"Prove it".
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Proof does not just mean a breath test which is not all that reliable. Proof can also include erratic driving, hazing eyes, slow response, not answering questions, etc.
A clever lawyer will say prove it. A clever DA will say you bet.
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Proof does not just mean a breath test which is not all that reliable. Proof can also include erratic driving, hazing eyes, slow response, not answering questions, etc.
A clever lawyer will say prove it. A clever DA will say you bet.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (gmeXX)
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SO WEED MUST STAY ILLEGAL!!!
because, revenue.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (AkOaV)
And so they can break down your door in the middle of night with a SWAT team, shoot your dog, blow up your kids and seize your house because they found used tea leaves in your garbage.
SO WEED MUST STAY ILLEGAL!!!
because, revenue.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:45 PM (AkOaV)
And so they can break down your door in the middle of night with a SWAT team, shoot your dog, blow up your kids and seize your house because they found used tea leaves in your garbage.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
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Nipster! WTF have you been?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (/Ho8c)
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Never copy/paste from a Word doc, because it brings over the formatting.
Also will you check on the science experiment in the Barrel? It ate the last three consignees and we want to know if it's still working.
Never copy/paste from a Word doc, because it brings over the formatting.
Also will you check on the science experiment in the Barrel? It ate the last three consignees and we want to know if it's still working.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (JtwS4)
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House for sale. Needs some work, has been neglected, but with some TLC, would be a good investment. Location: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, District of Columbia.
Posted by: Century 21 at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (VcOqI)
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Naturalamb is better
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (sgrzZ)
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Sheep guts. Ewe.
Posted by: The Barrel
Pro tip: Remove from sheep first.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:46 PM (sgrzZ)
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Sheep guts. Ewe.
Posted by: The Barrel
Pro tip: Remove from sheep first.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (5fXFG)
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ty Lizzy
Posted by: Brian_AL at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (V2QDI)
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exdem13, you really don't want to know how much I paid for my copy at
A-kon one year. One dealer had two copies. Snagged one then went to find
friend. Dragged friend to dealer and second copy was already sold. This
was on Friday. And there were no other copies to be had at the con.
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Worth every dollar though, right? Yeah, it helps to be in front of the right booth at the right time with the money at hand.
exdem13, you really don't want to know how much I paid for my copy at
A-kon one year. One dealer had two copies. Snagged one then went to find
friend. Dragged friend to dealer and second copy was already sold. This
was on Friday. And there were no other copies to be had at the con.
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Worth every dollar though, right? Yeah, it helps to be in front of the right booth at the right time with the money at hand.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 02:49 PM (ry4ab)
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And so they can break down your door in the middle of night with a SWAT team, shoot your dog, blow up your kids and seize your house because they found used tea leaves in your garbage.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
Makes our favorite Bears fan happy
And so they can break down your door in the middle of night with a SWAT team, shoot your dog, blow up your kids and seize your house because they found used tea leaves in your garbage.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
Makes our favorite Bears fan happy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:49 PM (J3phO)
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House for sale. Needs some work, has been neglected, but with some TLC, would be a good investment. Location: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, District of Columbia.
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Fabulous new paint job.
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Fabulous new paint job.
Posted by: SH at July 09, 2015 02:49 PM (gmeXX)
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Lick me.
Posted by: A Donut at July 09, 2015 02:49 PM (NjiZL)
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Goat is best.
Posted by: Mohamad at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (81UWZ)
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You Muzzies might have invented the idea of wrapping your dick in sheep intestines.... but it took the Europeans to figure out to take them out of the sheep first.
Posted by: Mohamad at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (81UWZ)
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You Muzzies might have invented the idea of wrapping your dick in sheep intestines.... but it took the Europeans to figure out to take them out of the sheep first.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 09, 2015 02:49 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 09, 2015 02:50 PM (kmtse)
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Damn, the Barrel is calling me "gross".
Posted by: wrg500 at July 09, 2015 02:50 PM (sgrzZ)
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And so they can break down your door in the middle of night with a SWAT team, shoot your dog, blow up your kids and seize your house because they found used tea leaves in your garbage.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
Right, well when else do they get to use all their awesome new toys?
If the cops cant drive their MRAP over your septic tank in your front lawn, break down your front door with a battering ram, and shoot up a house, including some pets, every once in a while... well, then what's the point of being a cop?
I mean, come on!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
Right, well when else do they get to use all their awesome new toys?
If the cops cant drive their MRAP over your septic tank in your front lawn, break down your front door with a battering ram, and shoot up a house, including some pets, every once in a while... well, then what's the point of being a cop?
I mean, come on!
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:50 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:50 PM (J3phO)
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#298 Yes, persistent rodent problem, but Terminix......
Posted by: Century 21 at July 09, 2015 02:51 PM (VcOqI)
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Well hello SMFH. Hope your day is going well 
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:51 PM (J3phO)
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So far, so good, thanks.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 09, 2015 02:52 PM (kmtse)
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Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (2Ojst)
Oh! and plus -- all the cool fireworks they get to use. Like smoke bombs, "flash bangs", things that start compounds on fire... all those cool toys.
Even in states where fireworks are illegal!
Oh! and plus -- all the cool fireworks they get to use. Like smoke bombs, "flash bangs", things that start compounds on fire... all those cool toys.
Even in states where fireworks are illegal!
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 02:52 PM (AkOaV)
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Slightly OT, but it should be noted that Dianne Feinstein attempted to have San Francisco declared a 'neutral' city during the Cold War in order to have it removed from the USSR's nuclear target list. I honestly can't remember the Russians' response--incredulity, I suppose.
Posted by: troyriser at July 09, 2015 02:52 PM (CAJL/)
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#308 We have a 5 officer police department with a 23 man SWAT team.
Posted by: Century 21 at July 09, 2015 02:53 PM (VcOqI)
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Conservatives are going about this all the wrong way.
Am I outraged? Of course. We all should be outraged.
But, using this to hammer the Obama administration (which don't get me wrong, deserves to be hammered for MANY things.) accomplishes the exact opposite of what should be accomplished. People tune out. They see the right as politicizing a tragedy, which to be fair, some people on both sides have. It turns into a story about how the right will criticize Obama for everything. The media will spin everything that way.
People are losing sight of the real tragedy here and the real problem contributing to this tragedy here. Instead of spouting out rhetoric about who is at fault- Obama, San Francisco, ICE, etc- we need to be offering concrete solutions. And, we need to strike while the iron's hot, appeal to the bleeding hearts. Tell the heart-wrenching story of this senseless murder. A promising American life gone too soon. It is rare that the American media is focused on the murder of a Caucasian at the hands of a minority. With all eyes on this case, this is our chance to appeal to everyone- gun haters, gun nuts, right, left, men, women, everyone. We just have to frame it just right. We just have to portray it just right.
And going off on Obama ain't it.
Am I outraged? Of course. We all should be outraged.
But, using this to hammer the Obama administration (which don't get me wrong, deserves to be hammered for MANY things.) accomplishes the exact opposite of what should be accomplished. People tune out. They see the right as politicizing a tragedy, which to be fair, some people on both sides have. It turns into a story about how the right will criticize Obama for everything. The media will spin everything that way.
People are losing sight of the real tragedy here and the real problem contributing to this tragedy here. Instead of spouting out rhetoric about who is at fault- Obama, San Francisco, ICE, etc- we need to be offering concrete solutions. And, we need to strike while the iron's hot, appeal to the bleeding hearts. Tell the heart-wrenching story of this senseless murder. A promising American life gone too soon. It is rare that the American media is focused on the murder of a Caucasian at the hands of a minority. With all eyes on this case, this is our chance to appeal to everyone- gun haters, gun nuts, right, left, men, women, everyone. We just have to frame it just right. We just have to portray it just right.
And going off on Obama ain't it.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 09, 2015 02:53 PM (RLFFI)
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With weed there's no similar test. Hair and blood both will have THC from two weeks ago if you're a regular smoker.
I grew up in CO and spend a lot of time in there. Every time I'm on hwy 70, with a sheer rock wall on one side, and a 1,000+ ft. drop on the other, I wonder how much the drivers around me had to smoke for breakfast. It's got to be a big, and growing problem. They have a lot of "green" tourists out there now. Many of them are not used to the high potency herb extracts and edibles being sold there.
I grew up in CO and spend a lot of time in there. Every time I'm on hwy 70, with a sheer rock wall on one side, and a 1,000+ ft. drop on the other, I wonder how much the drivers around me had to smoke for breakfast. It's got to be a big, and growing problem. They have a lot of "green" tourists out there now. Many of them are not used to the high potency herb extracts and edibles being sold there.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 09, 2015 02:53 PM (bWBdM)
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Oh yeah exdem13 it is worth every drachma. Aviation art. Science Fiction art. All rolled into one gorgeous book. I see there is a second volume of art that includes the VF-19 and VF-25.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:54 PM (nkc0T)
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" I honestly can't remember the Russians' response--incredulity, I suppose."
I did not know that. Bag of crap.
I did not know that. Bag of crap.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 09, 2015 02:54 PM (LA7Cm)
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NOOD TRUMP. Ivana?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:55 PM (J3phO)
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229 Is what Perry's pushing essentially the same as what Sen. Tom Cotton announced yesterday?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
Dunno, and don't really care. A CEO/ President/ whatever isn't there necessarily to generate new ideas, but rather to have people around him who do, and to recognize - and then implement - them.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
Dunno, and don't really care. A CEO/ President/ whatever isn't there necessarily to generate new ideas, but rather to have people around him who do, and to recognize - and then implement - them.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 09, 2015 02:55 PM (oKE6c)
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People are losing sight of the real tragedy here and the real problem contributing to this tragedy here. Instead of spouting out rhetoric about who is at fault- Obama, San Francisco, ICE, etc- we need to be offering concrete solutions.
Repatriation of illegals via a C130. With or without chutes.
Repatriation of illegals via a C130. With or without chutes.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2015 02:55 PM (5fXFG)
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Well not Menelaus. More like Agamemnon.
The EU is Menelaus while Germany, who has an army, is Agamemnon.
The EU is Menelaus while Germany, who has an army, is Agamemnon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2015 02:56 PM (nkc0T)
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Obama is an agent for the destruction of this country. At whose behest, who knows. But his intentions are overt and obvious, and he's daring someone to do something about it.
But...free shit.
The American public has become a bunch of emotionally-stunted, self-absorbed, lazy ignoramuses and ideological eunuchs.
When the Berlin wall came down, the war with the commies began here and we're getting our asses whupped.
But...free shit.
The American public has become a bunch of emotionally-stunted, self-absorbed, lazy ignoramuses and ideological eunuchs.
When the Berlin wall came down, the war with the commies began here and we're getting our asses whupped.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 09, 2015 02:56 PM (nqiq9)
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>>We just have to frame it just right. We just have to portray it just right.
>>And going off on Obama ain't it.
Run against sanctuary cities. Make the Dems defend that. Not a person or a group of people, the concept of a city acting unlawfully. Make the Dems own their lawlessness.
I bet that would get a lot of traction.
>>And going off on Obama ain't it.
Run against sanctuary cities. Make the Dems defend that. Not a person or a group of people, the concept of a city acting unlawfully. Make the Dems own their lawlessness.
I bet that would get a lot of traction.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2015 02:57 PM (OGm46)
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Pope refuses gift (from President of Bolivia) of Jesus nailed to a hammer and sickle.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pqdsjzx
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pqdsjzx
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 02:57 PM (81UWZ)
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"House for sale. Needs some work, has been neglected, but with some TLC, would be a good investment. Location: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, District of Columbia."
Actually, Section 8 public housing. Strange people coming and going at all hours of the night and day, including foreigners who don't speak English.
Regular visitors include known criminals and criminal suspects.
Tough neighborhood. House was struck by bullets a few years ago. Head of household is frequently away playing golf and failed to notice.
Actually, Section 8 public housing. Strange people coming and going at all hours of the night and day, including foreigners who don't speak English.
Regular visitors include known criminals and criminal suspects.
Tough neighborhood. House was struck by bullets a few years ago. Head of household is frequently away playing golf and failed to notice.
Posted by: A Donut at July 09, 2015 03:01 PM (NjiZL)
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Did Perino get a boob job?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2015 03:01 PM (Kwwks)
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This time in writing, though, saying, quote, '[a]ny effort at federal legislation now to mandate state and local law enforcement's compliance with ICE detainers will, in our view, be a highly counterproductive step and lead to more resistance and less cooperation in overall efforts to promote public safety."
What can this sentence possibly mean? If the feds make something mandatory, the city police officials are just going to ignore it more? I think we have federal prisons to take care of that issue.
What can this sentence possibly mean? If the feds make something mandatory, the city police officials are just going to ignore it more? I think we have federal prisons to take care of that issue.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 09, 2015 03:01 PM (evdj2)
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311
Conservatives are going about this all the wrong way.
Am I outraged? Of course. We all should be outraged.
But,
using this to hammer the Obama administration (which don't get me
wrong, deserves to be hammered for MANY things.) accomplishes the exact
opposite of what should be accomplished. People tune out. They see the
right as politicizing a tragedy, which to be fair, some people on both
sides have. It turns into a story about how the right will criticize
Obama for everything. The media will spin everything that way.
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Obummer is the president, so he gets the blame as well as the praise. More to the point, he has publicly taken sides in the issue, so the deaths honestly reflect on his policy and should be treated as such. It doesn't matter if the LSM gives him cover, someone needs to make sure he gets the treatment due his actions.
Conservatives are going about this all the wrong way.
Am I outraged? Of course. We all should be outraged.
But,
using this to hammer the Obama administration (which don't get me
wrong, deserves to be hammered for MANY things.) accomplishes the exact
opposite of what should be accomplished. People tune out. They see the
right as politicizing a tragedy, which to be fair, some people on both
sides have. It turns into a story about how the right will criticize
Obama for everything. The media will spin everything that way.
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Obummer is the president, so he gets the blame as well as the praise. More to the point, he has publicly taken sides in the issue, so the deaths honestly reflect on his policy and should be treated as such. It doesn't matter if the LSM gives him cover, someone needs to make sure he gets the treatment due his actions.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2015 03:01 PM (ry4ab)
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Pope refuses gift (from President of Bolivia) of Jesus nailed to a hammer and sickle.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 02:57 PM (81UWZ)
Bolivia: that socialist paradise on earth to which all aspire.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 02:57 PM (81UWZ)
Bolivia: that socialist paradise on earth to which all aspire.
Posted by: troyriser at July 09, 2015 03:03 PM (CAJL/)
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We just have to portray it just right.
And going off on Obama ain't it.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 09, 2015 02:53 PM (RLFFI)
So don't politicize it, because the media will misrepresent the way that we are politicizing it. But if we politicize it just right, the media will give us a safe harbor.
Cut. Jib. Newsletter. Bong.
And going off on Obama ain't it.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 09, 2015 02:53 PM (RLFFI)
So don't politicize it, because the media will misrepresent the way that we are politicizing it. But if we politicize it just right, the media will give us a safe harbor.
Cut. Jib. Newsletter. Bong.
Posted by: rebel flounder at July 09, 2015 03:03 PM (Vf5rR)
328
That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.
Posted by: Aidrondack Patriot at July 09, 2015 03:04 PM (NjiZL)
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That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.>>>
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.>>>
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 03:06 PM (81UWZ)
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329
That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.>>>
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 03:06 PM (81UWZ)
The full article doesn't say he refused it, just that he grimaced and said "that's not right."
That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.>>>
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 03:06 PM (81UWZ)
The full article doesn't say he refused it, just that he grimaced and said "that's not right."
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2015 03:09 PM (2Ojst)
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That's the fake Pope. The real Pope is Benedict.>>>
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 03:06 PM (81UWZ)
Should have offered it to Vice-Pope Eric first. Must observe protocol in matters such as this.
I was kinda surprised the fake pope refused it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2015 03:06 PM (81UWZ)
Should have offered it to Vice-Pope Eric first. Must observe protocol in matters such as this.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 09, 2015 03:20 PM (S+A/T)
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In a 2007 Democratic presidential debate, the late Tim Russert asked Clinton if she would allow sanctuary cities to disobey federal law. "Well, I don't think there is any choice," she answered. Immigrants may not talk to police if "they think you're also going to be enforcing the immigration laws." She did not add a caveat that she wanted local law enforcement to work with immigration officials if the federal government had strong feelings that an individual should be deported.
In 2008, Clinton voted against an amendment to yank some federal funds from sanctuary cities. California Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer voted likewise -- but it didn't stop them from criticizing San Francisco for releasing a repeat offender.
"The 2008 budget amendment was a choice between sending a political message or funding California law enforcement, and I chose to fund the police," Feinstein explained in an email. "I continue to believe we can deport criminals who are undocumented and still support law enforcement."
Perhaps Feinstein and Clinton are living back in 1985, when Feinstein was mayor and signed San Francisco's sanctuary city law.
In 2008, Clinton voted against an amendment to yank some federal funds from sanctuary cities. California Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer voted likewise -- but it didn't stop them from criticizing San Francisco for releasing a repeat offender.
"The 2008 budget amendment was a choice between sending a political message or funding California law enforcement, and I chose to fund the police," Feinstein explained in an email. "I continue to believe we can deport criminals who are undocumented and still support law enforcement."
Perhaps Feinstein and Clinton are living back in 1985, when Feinstein was mayor and signed San Francisco's sanctuary city law.
Posted by: Harry Callahan at July 09, 2015 03:31 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: thunderb at July 09, 2015 03:35 PM (zOTsN)
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Donald Trump bad, Rick Perry good. Got it.
Posted by: bour3 at July 09, 2015 03:37 PM (5x3+2)
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290
Nipster! WTF have you been?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (J3phO)
Thanks for axing. Croatia and Italy last two weeks. Hot as fcuk over there. Over 90 everyday.
Where do all these little tourist girls in Rome come from? They all need to get on a diet. If an 18 year old is wadding around now, when she is 30 she is going to be a big bucket of lard.
Nipster! WTF have you been?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 09, 2015 02:48 PM (J3phO)
Thanks for axing. Croatia and Italy last two weeks. Hot as fcuk over there. Over 90 everyday.
Where do all these little tourist girls in Rome come from? They all need to get on a diet. If an 18 year old is wadding around now, when she is 30 she is going to be a big bucket of lard.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 09, 2015 03:42 PM (0FSuD)
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Megyn Kelly can give me a stern talking to in my ear while she holds me down and 'punishes' me, and I mean good.
Posted by: Sphynx at July 09, 2015 03:43 PM (OZmbA)
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The moron horde talks about sanctuary cities like it won't be needing them to survive Hillary?'s Presidency. New Warsaw, New Masada, or old Antarctica--take your pick.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 09, 2015 03:50 PM (kfcYC)
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Since immigrants are so absolutely precious to a country, especially one as sparsely populated and under-teched like America before the great Latino convergence, maybe it's a tad bit unfair for the USA to hoard it all. How about we let China have them? Or India.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 09, 2015 03:52 PM (Lp7dV)
339
plus she has a magnificent rack.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
and to be fair, her ass isn't half bad either.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Dood, just say you're in love with her and be done with it. Sheesh.
"Kelly and Handle
sittin' in a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g
First comes love
then comes marriage
then comes baby
in a baby carriage!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
and to be fair, her ass isn't half bad either.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 09, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Dood, just say you're in love with her and be done with it. Sheesh.
"Kelly and Handle
sittin' in a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g
First comes love
then comes marriage
then comes baby
in a baby carriage!"
Posted by: Five Man Electrical Band at July 09, 2015 04:05 PM (Baojj)
340
Off and be gone, stinky sock of a one-hit wonder band!!
Posted by: Bill H at July 09, 2015 04:06 PM (Baojj)
341
I know it's OT, but my father was diagnosed with cancer yesterday. Please keep our family in your prayers Horde.
Posted by: jmel at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (cfFqn)
A direct request for help is never off topic.
Posted by: jmel at July 09, 2015 01:53 PM (cfFqn)
A direct request for help is never off topic.
Posted by: Bill H at July 09, 2015 04:14 PM (Baojj)
342
OT: Hillary insider speculates that if Hillary wins, Huma will move into the WH, too. Is this some sort of trial balloon or Page Six being provocative?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2015 04:32 PM (NOIQH)
343
@311: piss off. This needs to be rammed down the throats of the left till they choke on it.
Posted by: Strictly from apathy at July 09, 2015 05:38 PM (8n+U+)
344
I like Perry. He's a proven success at governance, and a conservative Republican. We have some very successful governors and former governors running this year, and a business executive who NEVER declared bankruptcy.
For those who discount experience, we have some dynamic young candidates with fresh approaches.
And we have Bozo the Clown and his sideshow, just in from the hair stylist with a new blow-dry look and a $10,000 suit. And the rubes line up with the money to see him like he was The Dog-faced Boy.
For those who discount experience, we have some dynamic young candidates with fresh approaches.
And we have Bozo the Clown and his sideshow, just in from the hair stylist with a new blow-dry look and a $10,000 suit. And the rubes line up with the money to see him like he was The Dog-faced Boy.
Posted by: Adjoran at July 09, 2015 05:52 PM (QIQ6j)
345
Perry's idea is a good one but it's a crime to spend money for unauthorized purposes. You can't take money for sidewalks and curbs and spend it on sewers and you can't take money to pay for detaining and returning criminal aliens and spend it on gay pride parades. Prosecute them.
Posted by: crazy at July 09, 2015 07:05 PM (4VSNx)
Posted by: Cat at July 09, 2015 10:57 PM (OKGJd)
347
Perry is what we call, "All Hat and No
Cattle" when it comes to illegal immigration. He has never enforced the border because the man has always been
beholden to Texas donors dependent on the cheap labor, such as Bob Perry
Homes and Bo Pilgrim. Perry was one of the first governors to pass
in-state tuition and financial support for illegal immigrants in 2001. He was against E-verify, he
objected to Arizona's SB1070 immigration enforcement law.....he's a fake
and a phony - do not trust him!
Cattle" when it comes to illegal immigration. He has never enforced the border because the man has always been
beholden to Texas donors dependent on the cheap labor, such as Bob Perry
Homes and Bo Pilgrim. Perry was one of the first governors to pass
in-state tuition and financial support for illegal immigrants in 2001. He was against E-verify, he
objected to Arizona's SB1070 immigration enforcement law.....he's a fake
and a phony - do not trust him!
Posted by: Cat at July 09, 2015 10:59 PM (OKGJd)
348
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