<i>Must</i> Watch: Watch Obama and Kerry Sell Out the US National Security Interest to Iran in Real Time, <i>Twelve Times In a Row</i>

Must Watch: Watch Obama and Kerry Sell Out the US National Security Interest to Iran in Real Time, Twelve Times In a Row

Via David Rutz of the Free Beacon, I've never seen it laid out all like this -- almost all in their own words, as Obama and Kerry make one tough promise on Iran after another (on disclosure of past militarization efforts of nuclear material: "It will be done") only to completely reverse themselves months, or even weeks, later.

AllahPundit pointed to this, and has more, including Steny Hoyer apparently ready to pull the plug on this fascade, which he (correctly) says is just an Iranian rope-a-dope to buy time while they build their Tel Aviv Nuclear Bombs.

Also, be sure to write, telephone, and Tweet at @SenBobCorker to thank him for selling out this nation's future.

Remember, this treaty has already been pre-approved by the GOP, because, in McConnell terms, we'll lose on the actual substance so that we can run on the issue later. Obama only needs 34 Senate votes -- rather than the 67 the Constitution requires, absent a Corker Sell-Out -- and he'll have those, obviously.

Steny Hoyer is a Representative, of course, so that gets us nothing.

Great work from David Rutz.

Share this with your friends and family. Obama is giving Iran the nuke -- and almost the entirety of the GOP abetted him in this -- and there's nothing that can stop that now.

But let everyone know what's coming, and who did it.

Just to mention this personal note again: This was my break with the GOP, this is when I wrote them off not only as unreliable allies but actual enemies.

They sold us out on Iran -- for what? For what?

Oh right-- we'll lose the vote but then we get to gin up the base and run on the issue later.

Posted by: Ace at 03:54 PM

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1 Vote Mike Flynn!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 07, 2015 03:55 PM (AC0lD)

2 1
Vote Mike Flynn!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 07, 2015 03:55 PM (AC0lD)

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 07, 2015 03:55 PM (AC0lD)

3
Threadwinner!

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 03:56 PM (JtwS4)

4 They had to agree to anything Iran asked.

I mean, they had an imaginary deadline, that nobody cared about, to meet.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 07, 2015 03:56 PM (AC0lD)

5 No way am I watching that. My heart is not healthy.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2015 03:56 PM (iQIUe)

6 Why does he not need 67 to sell us out. Is this another treaty that is not a treaty. I would say someone should take it to SCOTUS under a a writ of mandamus but they would just sell us out again.

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that Obama is a muzzie?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 03:57 PM (GpgJl)

7 It's MAD, MAD I tell ya!

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 07, 2015 03:57 PM (+jijM)

8 And now for something completely meta...

Posted by: The Barrel at July 07, 2015 03:57 PM (wtvvX)

9 We're boned.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at July 07, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)

10 "Remember, this treaty has already been pre-approved by the GOP,
because, in McConnell terms, we'll lose on the actual substance so that
we can run on the issue later. Obama only needs 34 Senate votes --
rather than the 67 the Constitution requires, absent a Corker Sell-Out"

Corker couldn't have put together this travesty working solo.

The Senate gave away their _explicitly Constitutionally stipulated_ treaty approval margin to Obama by a staggering 98 to 1 vote.

The single principled holdout? Tom Cotton.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 07, 2015 03:58 PM (noWW6)

11 I like the Stealth Skull.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 03:58 PM (evdj2)

12 But let everyone know what's coming, and who did it.

An ICBM with a nuculer warhead coming in from the North Pole.

Then there might be an audience anxious to discover who did this, since it may interrupt their Kardashian Worship temporarily.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 03:58 PM (eEb+d)

13 Not watched the video, but will.

Reading the text, there is a word for all this that comes to mind...starts with a "T"....can't quite put my finger on it...

Posted by: Moderate Salami at July 07, 2015 03:59 PM (/Ho8c)

14 This must be the 'better ideas" he was pontificating about. Or is it that it's "generational", in that an entire generation might die in a nuclear exchange?

Does anyone else remember when the left hated anything nuclear? And now they're falling over themselves giving a theocracy (which they also supposedly hate) nukes.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 07, 2015 03:59 PM (Spluw)

15 Was ending sanctions one of the gifts Obama has bestowed upon the Iranians?

And an embassy with normal diplomatic relations again?

Posted by: Ollie Boxoffer at July 07, 2015 03:59 PM (6LYFe)

16 I can't watch this video on a government computer.

I'll destroy it, and then I won't get to go to my new job on Monday.

I'll just take the cliff notes: Obama fucked us. Boehner and McConnell tied us over the barrel for him and then acted surprised when we got just as pissed at them.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (fwARV)

17 Posted by: Ace at 03:54 PM

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THREADWINNER!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (8XRCm)

18 But remember, today is the deadline set by the Senate if he wants the Senate to take it up within the time frame he asked for. If he doesn't get a "deal" by today he will not get it for a long time.

Unless McConehead sells us out again.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (GpgJl)

19 Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that Obama is a muzzie?

Nope.

Any doubt he hates the US?

Nope again.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (eEb+d)

20 Sold us out.
For what?
For money.
Duh.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (JgC5a)

21 Some folks around here have complained about it being said, but the end goal here appears to be Israel in smouldering ashes.

I'm almost at the point where I can't even fault the President and his Iranian puppetmaster. It's those heartless, soulless bastards of the majority party in the Senate.

They did it. All those deaths (should it come to that) will be theirs. They can run on that.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (TOk1P)

22 Sub skulled.

Posted by: dogfish at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (I0bBu)

23 What happens if they simply never bring the clusterfuck up for a vote?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 07, 2015 04:00 PM (/eTPT)

24 Legacy bitches!

Posted by: Ben Rhodes at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (HstNY)

25 Made it halfway thru the video.

Those MFMF should DIAF

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (cbfNE)

26 >>>pull the plug on this fascade

How about "faschade"? Fascist facade of a charade.

Posted by: Neologist at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (xkSSa)

27 Is that a seal skull?

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (wAQA5)

28
I actually did play the whole video.

It's hilarious except in the Iran's really going to get paid and get nukes sense of hilarious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (JtwS4)

29 The single principled holdout? Tom Cotton.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 07, 2015 03:58 PM (noWW6)

Rock on Tom. I thought he was kinda goofy from his ads, but he's turned out to be pretty great so far. So glad we ditched our nepotism senator for him.

The actual news sucks.

Posted by: Lea at July 07, 2015 04:01 PM (lIU4e)

30 If Israel is nuked while I am still alive because of this sell-out i will remember ever single scum bag who pushed this thru and I will blame some of those people at that table. And if anyone wants to take that as a threat, so be it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (/tNwW)

31 Or is this an admission that Iran already has a nuke and there is nothing we can do about it?

Posted by: Ollie Boxoffer at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (6LYFe)

32 And would you believe he threw in another RQ-170 drone to sweeten the deal

Posted by: Ayatolah Watchacallit at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (/xCkt)

33 I don't remember a vote to allow a simply majority to approve a treaty. There was something on that order for the "trade deal pos" but I don't remember this on Iran.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (GpgJl)

34 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (W6iIX)

35 I don't know if Obama is a Muslim but he bends over backwards for them and he loathes the state of Israel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (OSs/l)

36 I understand all about the 12th imam and how he'll return when the world is in chaos... I also understand the concept of 'never again'.

But I'm not as smart as Top.Men.

Who are gonna fuck this up, long time.

Posted by: se pa moron at July 07, 2015 04:03 PM (xQX/f)

37 Treasonous suckers of cock.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:03 PM (2Ojst)

38 Or is this an admission that Iran already has a nuke and there is nothing we can do about it?
Posted by: Ollie Boxoffer

Oh. Well that would explain shovelling billions of dollars in gold at them then.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 07, 2015 04:03 PM (Spluw)

39 This is treason. Choom Boy is most culpable, of course, but Kerry and the entire Congress are willing co-conspirators and thus equally guilty.

In fact, add an additional count of treason to the charges against Congress, as they have had both cause and innumerable opportunities to impeach President Historic First� and have failed to do so. Not for partisan reasons, but because the Muzzie-loving fuckweasel has broken the law countless times.

Oh, and this is also the direct result of the cries of "Bad Optics!" from surrender-eating cheese monkeys among the Conservative Pundit Elites like Poppin' Fresh....

Every one of these people should be out of office and in jail. They have done incalculable damage.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (P8YHq)

40 Senate overwhelmingly approves Iran review bill in 98-1 vote http://is.gd/AcIfJ8

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (evdj2)

41 I hate to say it, but I hope the Israelis have a nuke buried in the capitals of every single Muslim country, set to go off if Israel is ever targeted by a nuke.

Sort of a doomsday machine, as seen in Dr. Strangelove.

Of course, for the doomsday machine to work, you sort of have to let other people know it exists . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (72D6h)

42 What hasn't the GOP sold us out on? They sold us out on Iran, they sold us out on the "free trade" deal, they sold us out on Obamacare, they sold us out on illegal immigration -- they sell us out every damn chance they get.

Which is why we must give them no more chances.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (kGrdk)

43
The clock is ticking. Once Iran has the bomb, they will use it, and then it will cascade to the rest of the nuclear club.

The global warming will be quite substantial.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (Eskni)

44 It's just Faux News...., and right-wing extremist Tea Party people who oppose any of the positive things that this Historic First President tries to do. Oh..., and racists..., I forgot to mention racists.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (eeTCA)

45 What happens if they simply never bring the clusterfuck up for a vote?

They have 30 day to vote or it automatically go into effect.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (C278+)

46 I don't remember a vote to allow a simply majority to approve a treaty. There was something on that order for the "trade deal pos" but I don't remember this on Iran.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:02 PM (GpgJl)

You would only need 51 to approve the deal and if it was voted down, then you would need 2/3 to override the expected Veto by Fredo. That is where the 34 Senate votes comes from, I assume

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (/tNwW)

47 Ace, who is this David Ruiz character taking credit for my stuff?

Posted by: David Rutz at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (Vf5rR)

48 We are not and never will be at war with Islam.
- Obama

Yoohoo, America! We be killing you soon!
- every Islamic country, eventually

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (cbfNE)

49 Treasonous suckers of cock.

Posted by: Insomniac

Yeah! That was the word!

Posted by: Moderate Salami at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (/Ho8c)

50 Oh. Well that would explain shovelling billions of dollars in gold at them then.

I wonder how long the half-life of irradiated gold is?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (eEb+d)

51 >>> fascade

Perhaps you meant Fuscade?

Farcadillo?

Fosco?

Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (3ZtZW)

52 Peace in my time (but the next guy is really f* ked).

Posted by: Sir Shany at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (+jijM)

53 They want Iran to have the bomb. That's really the only option that makes sense.

Posted by: Lauren at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (Gm2CM)

54 Global Sizzling.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (IPzoI)

55 Hey it's the next president's problem, so who cares, right?

Posted by: brak at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (Tj+s6)

56
I hate to say it, but I hope the Israelis have a nuke buried in the capitals of every single Muslim country, set to go off if Israel is ever targeted by a nuke.

Sort of a doomsday machine, as seen in Dr. Strangelove.

Of course, for the doomsday machine to work, you sort of have to let other people know it exists . . .
Posted by: Sharkman at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (72D6h)

They don't have a need for that. besides Fixed Plane delivery they have plenty of Missile delivery systems from both the ground and under the sea

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (/tNwW)

57 Is there a mushroom cloud in your future?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (Z9g7j)

58 Perhaps you meant Fuscade?

Farcadillo?

Fosco?

Fusillade.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (evdj2)

59
I don't know if Obama is a Muslim but he bends over backwards for them and he loathes the state of Israel.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
.......................................
What difference at this point, does it make?!

Posted by: clapping seals for Hillary! at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (wAQA5)

60 Seriously people, everyone needs to calm down. After all this isn't Obama's Treaty, it's Val Jarret's Treaty. Obama has really nothing to do with it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (iONHu)

61 Just to mention this personal note again: This was my break with the GOP, this is when I wrote them off not only as unreliable allies but actual enemies
_____________________________

Ok, I'm confused. You break from the GOP? Got it.
You run advertising for Mike Flynn?
Got it.
You ask us to donate to Mike Flynn?
Got it.

So why the fuck did I donate to someone who if he wins aint gonna do shit?
So if you're done with the GOP why the fuck support someone running as a GOP candidate?

I think we are stuck somewhere between denial and bargaining. When does acceptance set in?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (9mTYi)

62 What hasn't the GOP sold us out on? They sold us out on Iran, they sold us out on the "free trade" deal, they sold us out on Obamacare, they sold us out on illegal immigration -- they sell us out every damn chance they get. Which is why we must give them no more chances.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

It's all the fault of the so-cons!!!! They're evvvvviiiiiillllll.

Posted by: mini/moo 2016 at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (Spluw)

63 Actually, a mushroom cloud in your future is good and here's why ..

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (evdj2)

64 40
Senate overwhelmingly approves Iran review bill in 98-1 vote http://is.gd/AcIfJ8

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (evdj2)

OK, I remember that now. Somebody should take it to court under a writ of mandamus and an explanation of what a treaty is. This is such a flagrant violation of the Constitution somebody needs to be held accountable and somebody needs to stomp this shit flat.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (GpgJl)

65 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?

Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)

66 He wants his Legacy? Well, he's got it.
He will be known as The Worst President In History!!

10 years ago, who would've thought that Carter could be unseated?

Posted by: Chi at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (1Nkl8)

67 I wonder how long the half-life of irradiated gold is?
Mwahahahahaha!!!

Posted by: auric goldfinger at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (kivUY)

68 They have 30 day to vote or it automatically go into effect.

It'll go into effect. They're going on vacation soon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (OSs/l)

69 Btw, remember that Horseface's daughter's husband is Iranian. His parents still live in Iran.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (hLQJ7)

70 Every one of these people should be out of office and in jail. They have done incalculable damage.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 07, 2015 04:04 PM (P8YHq)

THIS!!!!!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (eEb+d)

71 The secretary of state and I will not dress up in tutus and sing I'm a Little Teapot in Times Square.

- Obama

I'm a little teapot short and stout . . .

- Obama and Kerry in Times Square dressed in tutus.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (XUKZU)

72 Imagine the angst in the Whitehouse if he can't get 34 votes for this crap sandwich.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (ztOda)

73 Actually, a Nuclear Iran will stabilize the Middle East and here's why ..

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (evdj2)

74
"The future does not belong to those who insult the prophit of islam."

-sh*t BHO says

Posted by: Yo! at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (W6iIX)

75 >>> If Israel is nuked while I am still alive

Never Again is Now, sez Beck.

Maybe he sucks, but he's not wrong.

Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (3ZtZW)

76 Some men just want to see the world burn.

Posted by: Alfred at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (OQ9R7)

77 I think we are stuck somewhere between denial and bargaining. When does acceptance set in?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (9mTYi)

I prefer to skip straight to anger and stay there.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (2Ojst)

78 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?

Sparky. He looks like a skull, on fire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (YEelc)

79 No, Mr Bond Market. I expect you to die.

Posted by: auric goldfinger at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (kivUY)

80 Imagine the angst in the Whitehouse if he can't get 34 votes for this crap sandwich.
Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (ztOda)

That is to make it Veto proof

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (/tNwW)

81 I wonder how long the half-life of irradiated gold is?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:05 PM (eEb+d)

I may be able to answer that...

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at July 07, 2015 04:10 PM (wtvvX)

82 The secretary of state and I will not dress up in tutus and sing I'm a Little Teapot in Times Square.

- Obama

I'm a little teapot short and stout . . .

- Obama and Kerry in Times Square dressed in tutus.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (XUKZU)

Hah. That would almost be worth giving Iran nukes.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:10 PM (cbfNE)

83 If Israel is nuked while I am still alive

Never Again is Now, sez Beck.

Maybe he sucks, but he's not wrong.
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:09 PM (3ZtZW)

Asides from the always needed Godfather Quote, I was dead serious

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:10 PM (/tNwW)

84 O/T
Deaths from overdose of heroin killed about 9000 . That is about the same as all deaths from handguns.
Maybe we should ban heroin.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 07, 2015 04:10 PM (R8hU8)

85 The global warming will be quite substantial.

I thought it was 'nuclear winter.'

I mean it was another factor in global warming in Civ, but I assumed that was just easier to code.

Posted by: Methos at July 07, 2015 04:10 PM (ZbV+0)

86 "Is there a mushroom cloud in your future?"

No. Too horrible to contemplate. Not possible. Will never happen. Just a bogeyman to scare little children. You have a better chance of winning the lottery, and people win the lottery all the time.

No mushrooms, no clouds, happy happy joy joy thoughts. All those anti-nuke protests in the sixties made this impossible. That's why we have pron.

Posted by: Ollie Boxoffer at July 07, 2015 04:11 PM (6LYFe)

87 I wonder how long the half-life of irradiated gold is?
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ME ME I KNOW!!!!

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at July 07, 2015 04:11 PM (/eTPT)

88 Damn, figures teh horde would beat me to it...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 07, 2015 04:11 PM (wtvvX)

89
Remember, this treaty has already been pre-approved by the GOP

Bill approved 98 to 1.

Thanks Thom!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:11 PM (kdS6q)

90 This stuff is boring. Any new Kardashian news?

Posted by: The Electorate at July 07, 2015 04:11 PM (UFV5W)

91 Hey Jimmy, isn't it great to be off the bottom of the list?

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlin at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (16OL0)

92 Remember with a socialist paradise people have to die. It's all for the cause. Citizens murdered by illegals allowed to stay here, Obamacare dealth panels, Israel and God knows who else, late term babies, etc. etc.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (oiNtH)

93 Twelve times the cock crowed how great it was.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (W5DcG)

94
Horseface's daughter's ...

Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.

http://bit.ly/1J2Qboj

Because Moron.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (JtwS4)

95 They want Iran to have the bomb. That's really the only option that makes sense.

Well, TFG did tell all of us that if it came down to it, he'd back the muzzies.

Not us. Not the Constitution. Not freedom. Not our way of life.

The muzzies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (eEb+d)

96 The skull actually looked like Brain Dennehey when it still had a face.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (IPzoI)

97 Bob Corker defended this deal by saying if they didn't give in to Obama, Barry would just do it unlawfully anyway, and how would that help them keep their phony baloney jobs?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (evdj2)

98 Now let me be clear: we will be tough on Iran only after they have proven irresponsible with nuclear weapons. Now, some may say the Iranian people have no right to defend themselves; others may say every Iranian should have a personal nuclear bomb. I believe in the middle path--that Iran should have *some* nuclear capability, which I am sure will be used only for good.

Posted by: Presn't Obama at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (VAsIq)

99 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)

Michael Jackson.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (+jijM)

100 They want Iran to have the bomb. That's really the only option that makes sense.

Posted by: Lauren at July 07, 2015 04:06 PM (Gm2CM)

Exactly. It's the same mentality that led the Rosenbergs (and the rest of their ilk) to give nuclear secrets to the Russians.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (TOk1P)

101
'Horseface's daughter's husband is Iranian'

horseface=John Kerry
or
=Valerie Jarret

??

Posted by: Yo! at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (W6iIX)

102 it is a well known fact that giving a dangerous weapon to a crazy person is the best way to let him prove that he is really not crazy. What would you suggest, Mr Tea Party smart guy?

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (qSIlh)

103 Holy shit, Moneypenny! There are Goldfingers all over the place!

I guess I'll have to kill all of them.

Posted by: bond, james bond at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (kivUY)

104 The reasoning behind voting Yes for some was it was the only way to delay Obama from lifting the sanctions by executive order . The treaty will still have to be debated and passed. I don't agree with the reasoning but I definitely didn't want the sanctions lifted and billions of dollars returned to Iran. I think they got some money back anyway.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (4SgJh)

105 "I have not yet begun to cave!"

Posted by: Oliver Hazard Kerry at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (LA7Cm)

106 'Horseface's daughter's husband is Iranian'

horseface=John Kerry
or
=Valerie Jarret

??

Posted by: Yo! at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (W6iIX)

--

Horseface = Kerry
Iranian Ferret = Jarret

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (cbfNE)

107 Hey Neville, you think he might get my name off the bottom as well? Now that would be a legacy!

Posted by: Zombie Vidkun Quisling at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (16OL0)

108 It's the same mentality that led the Rosenbergs (and the rest of their ilk) to give nuclear secrets to the Russians.

In a just world everyone has everything.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (W5DcG)

109 94
94

Horseface's daughter's ...

Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.

http://bit.ly/1J2Qboj

Because Moron.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (JtwS4)

Anyone who would wear a dress like that to a formal event is a whore. Why isn't she carrying a mattress.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (GpgJl)

110 The flaming skull is the 4th of July Darwin Award nominee.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (kmtse)

111 I don't know if Obama is a Muslim but he bends over backwards for them and he loathes the state of Israel.
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i'd have guessed he bends over forwards, then bleats

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 07, 2015 04:14 PM (/eTPT)

112 The reasoning behind voting Yes for some was it was the only way to delay Obama from lifting the sanctions by executive order . The treaty will still have to be debated and passed. I don't agree with the reasoning but I definitely didn't want the sanctions lifted and billions of dollars returned to Iran. I think they got some money back anyway.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (4SgJh)

The sanctions are already all but history.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (/tNwW)

113 The reasoning behind voting Yes for some was it was the only way to delay Obama from lifting the sanctions by executive order . The treaty will still have to be debated and passed. I don't agree with the reasoning but I definitely didn't want the sanctions lifted and billions of dollars returned to Iran. I think they got some money back anyway.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (4SgJh)

The sanctions are already all but history.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (/tNwW)

114
Seriously people, everyone needs to calm down. After all this isn't Obama's Treaty, it's Val Jarret's Treaty. Obama has really nothing to do with it.
..........................................
You got that right. I just keep feeding the dumbshit eight balls and Kools, keeps him out of my hair.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (wAQA5)

115 horseface=John Kerry
or
=Valerie Jarret

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Kerry. Jarret is more walnutface.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (XUKZU)

116 Do give up the shit!

Posted by: Captain John Kerry Jones at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (kivUY)

117
Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.

http://bit.ly/1J2Qboj

Because Moron.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:12 PM (JtwS4)

Would bang.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (2Ojst)

118
The single principled holdout? Tom Cotton.
Posted by: torquewrench

1 point to Slytherin. Boxer also dodged the vote.

Out getting her talons sharpened or something.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (kdS6q)

119 Oh right-- we'll lose the vote but then we get to gin up the base and run on the issue later.
Fuck that noise.
Voting to give him the power is owning it, Mitch.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (oVJmc)

120 I am thinking that Russia, China, and Iran must have some serious blackmail shit on Ear Leader and his sycophants.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (oiNtH)

121 It doesn't matter! Even if they get the enriched uranium, they don't have a bomb to put it in!

Posted by: Smilin' Joe Biden at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (0k/27)

122 That Flaming Skull should have a horse's face and some jugears on it...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (wtvvX)

123 The thing I don't get, is why is Iran acting this way? What more is there that they want, that Kerry etc are not offering? Or is it just an act?

Posted by: Baldy at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (sEXjW)

124 94
Horseface's daughter's ...

No resemblance there.
Ha who do I kid? She's a fucking Mr. Ed with tits.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (9mTYi)

125 120,

What would give you that idea?

Posted by: OPM at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (kmtse)

126 99

Is it bad that I laughed at that?

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (nSjrf)

127 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?�
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)

Michael Jackson.

Posted by: bergerbilder
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Whew!

Posted by: Richard Pryor at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (gWJfP)

128 Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.

--

That is definitely a non-regulation burka.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (cbfNE)

129
Anyone who would wear a dress like that to a formal event is a whore. Why isn't she carrying a mattress.

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She has to. Otherwise somebody might look at her face.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (XUKZU)

130 I still say Art V if we can get it in before WWIII.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (GpgJl)

131 I hope Israel just takes care of it tonight and then the traitors won't have to even vote.

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at July 07, 2015 04:17 PM (IyKms)

132 Sorry. That was me at #121 and I am still furious at Paul Ryan for letting Biden get away with that crap in debate. I don't expect an econ wonk congressman to suddenly become a nuke SME, but was it really too much to expect him to ask what country ever assembled a critical mass but couldn't get it to go off? I would think that's sort of layman-level nuke knowledge.

Posted by: JPS at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (0k/27)

133 Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.http://bit.ly/1J2QbojBecause Moron.
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cute little filly

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (/eTPT)

134 I want to see them die screaming.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (kmtse)

135 In other news, hell hath frozen over.

California's assisted suicide bill just died in committee because 5 Hispanic Dems sided against it. This is huge since it is rare to flip Dems on anything ever, but a concerted effort to remind these folks that they are Catholic actually worked. Now, how to do we repeat that success? At this point is settle for figuring out how to get "our" side to vote with us.

Posted by: Lauren at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (Gm2CM)

136 Hello Habibi, yes, yes the family is fine. Remember those bombs we gave you money to build? Yes, I sending one of my planes to Balochistan to pickup the agreed number. Masallah my friend, Masallah.

Posted by: King Salman at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (C278+)

137 has Kerry even missed a chance to side with the other side?

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (qSIlh)

138 Tick tock tick tock
***sounds of scurrying Iranian scientists***

Posted by: Waiting for no one at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (jLTYI)

139 Kerry is a disgrace and we can thank God he never became President except for look what did.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (oiNtH)

140 Before the cock crows, you will sell us out ~~three~~ a whole shitload of times.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (oKE6c)

141

Sad.

DC is on crack. Crack = power, money, greed.

This is how they are acting. They need their next fix, their brains are in a frenzy, constantly looking for the next hit, the next fix.

This is literally how they are acting. They know what is right and wrong, but they are addicted and will always do what is in their best interest, not ours.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (qCMvj)

142
Horseface's daughter's ...

Flicka?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (kdS6q)

143 134 I want to see them die screaming.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (kmtse)

Careful with your tone, you might alienate the independents and more moderate Republicans.

/sarc

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (2Ojst)

144 Holy shit, Moneypenny! There are Goldfingers all over the place!
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That's why there's Pussies Galore

Posted by: Auric G at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (/eTPT)

145 She's not half bad considering the DNA she had to work with.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (IPzoI)

146 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?
Posted by: Bigby
--------------

This has been a topic of some discussion. I have concluded that it is the skull of a Piltdown man. Thus, necessarily, male, as there never was a Piltdown woman.

The science is settled.

Posted by: Needledick Grassy Tyson at July 07, 2015 04:20 PM (eeTCA)

147 Actually, a nuclear Iran will do wonders for stability and peace in the middle east, and here's why:

Posted by: #VoxTakes at July 07, 2015 04:20 PM (34w2E)

148 145 She's not half bad considering the DNA she had to work with.
Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:19 PM (IPzoI)

A one-bagger, at best.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:20 PM (2Ojst)

149 I knew Flicka. Flicka was a friend of mine. You, madam, are no Flicka.

Posted by: Ken McLaughlin at July 07, 2015 04:20 PM (evdj2)

150 If Obama were the anti-Christ what would he be doing differently?

IIRC, the destruction of Israel is the big kicker.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 07, 2015 04:20 PM (TV9BR)

151 Isn't the burning skeleton head in the wrong place? Thought it went at the top.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2015 04:21 PM (e3bId)

152 Oh right-- we'll lose the vote but then we get to gin up the base and run on the issue later.
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think what winning campaign ads we can make after the country gets nuked a few times...

Posted by: GOPe at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (/eTPT)

153
You, madam, are no Flicka.

lol

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (IPzoI)

154 Actually, nuclear weapons aren't as bad as you think, and here's why....

-Teh Vox

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (VAsIq)

155
94

Horseface's daughter's ...

Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.
..............................
That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (wAQA5)

156 What was the event she was wearing the dress to?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (OSs/l)

157
Hey, remember when the Republicans were a lock to win because 2016 was going to be a "foreign policy election"?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (kdS6q)

158 nevergiveup:

If Israel gets nuked iran will be using the shit hits the fan here intercontinental rockets.

Most of those bastards will be in underground nuke bunkers.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (wkuqO)

159 So has anyone heard even one single Republican say something along the lines of the following? Because I sure haven't.

"When Barack Obama talks about wanting to cut a deal with Iran about nuclear weapons, remember three things. First off, the Iranians have repeatedly cheated on previous deals. Second, Iran is one of the world's largest sponsors of terrorists, who have killed many American troops and civilians. Third, Iran is a country where they have regular mass chants of "DEATH TO AMERICA" in the national parliament. Why does Obama think this is a good idea again? This is a terrible idea."

Posted by: torquewrench at July 07, 2015 04:23 PM (noWW6)

160 Isn't the burning skeleton head in the wrong place? Thought it went at the top.

Posted by: Weasel

Everyone knows Barry's more of a bottom.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 04:23 PM (VAsIq)

161 151 Isn't the burning skeleton head in the wrong place? Thought it went at the top.
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2015 04:21 PM (e3bId)

That was before the Obergefell decision.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:23 PM (2Ojst)

162 Yup....this bastard in the white house won't give a damn if Israel is nuked by Iran as he probably thinks it would be for the best for all his muzzie buddies in the middle east and a "final" solution so to speak of the "peace" process for the region. I pray that the IDF takes the weird beards out in Iran and so be it.

Posted by: Hillary with a Wang! at July 07, 2015 04:23 PM (D0NZx)

163 Here, Malia, let me show you something about your body that you may not know....

Posted by: Perverted Dunham at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (eeTCA)

164 bigby (oh, and I'm glad someone apparently found you with an extinguisher) I hear you about Glenn Beck. His personality drives me crazy but he has been right on a lot of issues.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (hk5Mp)

165 160 Isn't the burning skeleton head in the wrong place? Thought it went at the top
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What difference does it make?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (9mTYi)

166 Ace,

You forget. The President did not need to go through Congress with this. He could, legally, do this all unilaterally.

None of us agree with this, but the fact remains this is not considered a treaty, it is legally an executive agreement.

Corker and the GOP has no leverage.

Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (qRV1m)

167 Our effective opposition to President Obama's destructive policies has enabled Americans to retain their historic freedom to practice their faith in their basements. And also, thanks to our ability to work in a bipartisan manner on immigration policy, there are some millions of Americans who have not (yet) lost their jobs, nor been murdered, nor even contracted diseases long thought to have been eradicated from modern societies. Your welcome.

Posted by: GOP Talking Points 2016 at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (nFdGS)

168 If Obama were the anti-Christ what would he be doing differently?

Stand in the middle of the temple mount and proclaim himself God?

That's going to be hard to do if Val gets her way and the Iranians nuke the site first.

Posted by: Methos at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (ZbV+0)

169 had*

Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (qRV1m)

170 **sometime in the future** Now that iran has nukes they don't have the will to use them.

Posted by: Old horse face himself at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (wkuqO)

171 I seem to recall the Flaming Skull being called Quenchy some time back. But I could be wrong.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2015 04:25 PM (h4vJk)

172 Why can't Iran have nukes? They should be able to microwave popcorn just like everyone else.

Posted by: The Electorate at July 07, 2015 04:25 PM (UFV5W)

173 Oh crap that was bigby's head up there wasn't it.
Glad he can still post while incinerating.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 07, 2015 04:25 PM (hk5Mp)

174 Kevin Williamson wrote this about Greece this morning:

"Political logic is, not coincidentally, lawyer logic - which is to say, it substitutes consensus for reality. If enough people (jurors, voters) are convinced that your position is the correct one, then you 'win.'"

He wasn't describing the administration's Iran negotiations, but he might as well have been.

Posted by: JPS at July 07, 2015 04:25 PM (0k/27)

175 Alexandra Kerry. See-through dress.http://bit.ly/1J2QbojBecause Moron.
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cute little filly
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 07, 2015 04:18 PM (/eTPT)

Tie her up, let the jack go at her, and you might get something useful.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (+jijM)

176
If Israel gets nuked iran will be using the shit hits the fan here intercontinental rockets.

Most of those bastards will be in underground nuke bunkers.
Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:22 PM (wkuqO)

A nuke hitting Israel would be another Holocaust. If it hit either Haifa, Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem it would take out about 1/3 of all Jews in Israel. Sure Israel would take Iran off the face of the earth, but that doesn't concern me. All I would care about is the Jewish Life lost, including my friends and relatives, in Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (/tNwW)

177 Remember recently Obama stating at some Jewish awards ceremony that Israel has had no better friend than his administration.

I keep waiting for the guy to spontaneously combust or for his nose to grow two feet from all of the lies he tells.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (oiNtH)

178 I don't know how she came up, but I searched Alexandra Kerry pics. I guess we're talking about the black number that is practically see through?

You see can all the way to Mars.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (LA7Cm)

179 The President did not need to go through Congress with this. He could, legally, do this all unilaterally.

Are the current sanctions not embodied in law? Or are you noting that he can suspend them while he is President? I'd prefer he did it on his own and his party pay the price.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (evdj2)

180 I (and a lot people here, I'm sure) have insisted from even before Obama took office, that he had radical designs on this country. People even on the right, wouldn't allow themselves to believe that a sitting president would do this to the country.

The real sad truth about any of this is that half, or nearly half of the country like what is happening to the country and want more. Much more.

We on the right see ourselves being betrayed by both sides of the political spectrum and we are imagining even revolution might be necessary to save the country.

What a lot of us fail to see, I believe, is that the other half, the half that wants more of this, also want revolution, revolution to get the rest faster. And to be honest, they are closer to getting what they want than we are to getting what we want.

The big difference is that our side believes in the second amendment.

They will try to do something about this and it won't be subtle. That's my bet.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (BZAd3)

181 Welcome Mahdi!

Posted by: Imam Obama at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (GwjEG)

182 When does acceptance set in?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:07 PM (9mTYi)

About 5 minutes before you start buying your food by the freeze dried bucket-full

Posted by: Russian Judge at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (JOG+K)

183 You forget. The President did not need to go through Congress with this. He could, legally, do this all unilaterally. None of us agree with this, but the fact remains this is not considered a treaty, it is legally an executive agreement. Corker and the GOP has no leverage.
Posted by: Stone

If that were the case then there was no need to go along with the charade.

Aso, Congress can compel via the power of the purse, if they chose to do so.
Also, if this was an executive agreement, it could be rescinded day one of the next administration. This makes it something more.

Posted by: mini/moo 2016 at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (Spluw)

184
Corker and the GOP has no leverage.
Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (qRV1m)

that is not really true. the sanctions are congressional sanctions and need Congressional approval to lift them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (/tNwW)

185 Well some of the sanctions

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (/tNwW)

186 Well some of the sanctions

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (/tNwW)

187 Apparently it was at the Cannes film festival and the Drudge headline was "Kerry daughter shows Cannes" which is funny.

It's referred to elsewhere as being "daring". No, it's not daring. It shows a level of obsessive narcissism that is not surprising in the daughter of John kerry but still,,,,,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:27 PM (OSs/l)

188 Nevergiveup - that seriously puts tears in my eyes. I can't even bear the thought.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (oiNtH)

189
Wow. A tail-end flaming skull. Maybe to be anatomically correct, it should be a flaming pelvis, from the rear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (St6BJ)

190 Well if Obama and Kerry don't negotiate on behalf of Iran who will?

Posted by: Ken at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (LXJ1e)

191
Dems love Iran because they hate all the right people.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (LWWrf)

192
FYI - the Kerry daughter dressed like a Russian prostitute is Alexandra Kerry, trust fund kid Hollywood wannabe.

Now, the other daughter is Vanessa Kerry, who's a doctor. But unfortunately ....trigger warning:

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)

193 A nuke hitting Israel would be another Holocaust. If it hit either Haifa, Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem it would take out about 1/3 of all Jews in Israel. Sure Israel would take Iran off the face of the earth, but that doesn't concern me. All I would care about is the Jewish Life lost, including my friends and relatives, in Israel.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (/tNwW)

I didn't make myself clear, (not unusual) the bastards mentioned were the same ones you mentioned. They will be hard to find.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (wkuqO)

194 I am thinking that Russia, China, and Iran must have some serious blackmail shit on Ear Leader and his sycophants.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:16 PM (oiNtH)

----

That would infer that BHO is doing this shit against his will.

Which poses the following question.

"Can you blackmail somebody who's already willing?".

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (8XRCm)

195 Perhaps the Iran Device is the the foretold Abomination of Desolation.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (evdj2)

196 166 You forget. The President did not need to go through Congress with this. He could, legally, do this all unilaterally.

None of us agree with this, but the fact remains this is not considered a treaty, it is legally an executive agreement.

Corker and the GOP has no leverage.

Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:24 PM (qRV1m)

There has never been a ruling from any court saying something like this is NOT a treaty. This is absolute unconstitutional AND illegal bull shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (GpgJl)

197
I see areola.

And a lotta jaw.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (IPzoI)

198 re 179: "Are the current sanctions not embodied in law?"

Since when does that count anymore?

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (qSIlh)

199
So Donald Trump will call Obama (pick your epithet) and of course he'll be attacked for doing so.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (St6BJ)

200
A nuke hitting Israel would be another Holocaust. If it hit either Haifa, Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem it would take out about 1/3 of all Jews in Israel. Sure Israel would take Iran off the face of the earth, but that doesn't concern me. All I would care about is the Jewish Life lost, including my friends and relatives, in Israel.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:26 PM (/tNwW)

Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.

Posted by: King Barry at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (2Ojst)

201
Corker and the GOP has no leverage.
Posted by: Stone

Control of the Senate and 2/3rd vote to pass a treaty.

No leverage.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (kdS6q)

202 A treaty by any other name is still a treaty.

Posted by: Jefferson at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (wkuqO)

203 So, Alexandra Kerry. Slutwalk?

Posted by: Perverted Dunham at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (eeTCA)

204 Now, the other daughter is Vanessa Kerry, who's a doctor. But unfortunately ....trigger warning:

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)

Poor girl, dropped on her face at birth, picked up and hit with an ugly stick.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (9mTYi)

205 113 The reasoning behind voting Yes for some was it was the only way to delay Obama from lifting the sanctions by executive order . The treaty will still have to be debated and passed. I don't agree with the reasoning but I definitely didn't want the sanctions lifted and billions of dollars returned to Iran. I think they got some money back anyway.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 04:13 PM (4SgJh)

The sanctions are already all but history.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:15 PM (/tNwW)

Not yet but close. Anyway they knew they could only delay the lifting. They delay though has allowed people to see whats really going and I believe it has changed some minds. Unfortunately Obama is intent on making a deal no matter how bad but he's losing votes to get it done.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (4SgJh)

206 196 There has never been a ruling from any court saying something like this is NOT a treaty. This is absolute unconstitutional AND illegal bull shit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (GpgJl)

(**Imitating Fletch when Joe Don Baker arrives to confront him and Tim Matheson**)

Oh, thank goodness. The Supreme Court to the rescue.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (St6BJ)

207 "Since when does that count anymore?"

Got a point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (LA7Cm)

208 Now, the other daughter is Vanessa Kerry, who's a doctor. But unfortunately ....trigger warning:

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)

I see what you did there. Now you take that comparison back!

Posted by: Roy Rogers at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (2Ojst)

209 Definition of a treaty:

a formal agreement between two or more states in reference to peace, alliance, commerce, or other international relations.

IOW THIS is a treaty as the founders who wrote the Constitution understood the term.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (GpgJl)

210 http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)

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No way. Thats Sarah Jessica Parker.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

211 re 196: "There has never been a ruling from any court saying something like this is NOT a treaty"

There was never a ruling from the Sup Ct that the 14th Amendment gave a right to same sex marriage. You gotta change with the times. Be glad you live in a part of the country that probably won't get nuked.

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (qSIlh)

212 Unfortunately Obama is intent on making a deal no matter how bad but he's losing votes to get it done.

He can hold 35 Democrats in the Senate. Thanks to Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell, it's a done deal.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (evdj2)

213

I think Israel should set off EMP bursts all over Farsi-land.

First strike. There really is no other option at this point. I don't see it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (St6BJ)

214 210 http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)

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No way. Thats Sarah Jessica Parker.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

She sure does stirrup a similar reaction...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (2Ojst)

215 Perhaps the Iran Device is the the foretold Abomination of Desolation.

I assumed the dome of the rock was. I'm sure I already know this, but is that in sunni or shia hands? (which may determine whether it's on the target list)

Posted by: Methos at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (ZbV+0)

216 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:30 PM (9mTYi)

Hood ornament for a Pontiac?

Posted by: Jefferson at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (wkuqO)

217 FTWW.

Posted by: Obama at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (48QDY)

218 And Eugene Volokh's new piece on how the courts are like to render moot the 1st Amendment will surely help put the icing on the cake:

http://tinyurl.com/qxkxdbr

so to speak.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (BZAd3)

219 re 208... WHOA...

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (qSIlh)

220 Which daughter is married to an Iranian?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (OSs/l)

221 Control of the Senate and 2/3rd vote to pass a treaty. No leverage. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM

Add Bitch McConnell to the mix and the statement was quite right. "Republicans" have no leverage when it comes to dealing with Choom Boy.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (P8YHq)

222 Apparently it was at the Cannes film festival and the Drudge headline was "Kerry daughter shows Cannes" which is funny.

Heh. To be the teensiest bit fair, sometimes something doesn't look see through until you get it under the lights. (don't ask me how I know) But that material looks like it might have been obvious.

Posted by: Lea at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (lIU4e)

223
Are the current sanctions not embodied in law? Or are you noting that he can suspend them while he is President? I'd prefer he did it on his own and his party pay the price

Yes, noting that the sanctions he wants removed are those that, by law, he can waive.

Good point, we could just let him do it unilaterally and take the fall. That might have been better politically.

I guess where I stand is... I do not want Iran to get the bomb, period. While not the best political move, at least there is a (albeit small) chance the Senate can reject the "executive agreement". I think having that chance was worth losing a bit politically.

If that fails, hopefully we will win in 16 and they will not yet have the bomb, then a republican president and congress can destroy the deal.

Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (qRV1m)

224
My interpretation is this isnt nuclear attacks.

I read this as a nuclear tax.

**stamps Constitutional**

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)

225 The only way Barry can't get 35 Democrats to support any deal he makes is if he promised Iran that we would nuke Israel for them.

He's still get 28 votes in that case.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (evdj2)

226 California's assisted suicide bill just died

It's death was assisted.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (W5DcG)

227 Kerry DNA is cruel thing to do to a girl.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (IPzoI)

228
First strike. There really is no other option at this point. I don't see it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:32 PM (St6BJ

But does Bibi have balls the size of Golda Maier's?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

229 No way. Thats Sarah Jessica Parker.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

She sure does stirrup a similar reaction...

Posted by: Insomniac

Whoa.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (VAsIq)

230 re 218: read some of it. Apparently speech can be regulated if it's declared "conduct". I almost wonder if Volokh is pulling our collective leg.

Posted by: mallfly at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (qSIlh)

231 But unfortunately ....trigger warning:

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/nu7wzg3

Warning? I think Trigger would find that appealing.

Posted by: Zombie Roy Rogers at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (ZtFr+)

232
At this point, it is eminently clear that Barack H. Obama has allowed his 54-odd years of inflexible ideology to send him over the deep end.

He us truly mentally unbalanced.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (St6BJ)

233 But does Bibi have balls the size of Golda Maier's?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

Or Begins or Sharons? History tells us NO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (/tNwW)

234 What offends me about this is that the people currently at State have completely forgotten about their colleagues who were held for 444 days in that hellhole. Men and women who were beaten, starved and psychologically tortured, for 444 days. Did ANY of them step up and say, "No. This is wrong." ?? No, they just cowed and went along with it. Because the people being hired at State are not putting the interests of the United States first and foremost, which was our commission. They are putting party politics first. God help and forgive us.

Posted by: Moki at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (x303I)

235 228 But does Bibi have balls the size of Golda Maier's?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

Let's hope Golda's and not Oscar's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (St6BJ)

236 You know I hate to say it but, the conditions are ripe for the fulfillment of Isaiah 17 and Psalms 83.

Posted by: King Salman at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (C278+)

237 So has anyone heard even one single Republican say something along the lines of the following? Because I sure haven't.

Nope. I have yet to hear one sitting congresscritter say one bad thing about this deal.

They are all in on it, which would frighten me if I were the frightening type. As it is today, nothing scares me anymore because I see evil winning everywhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (eEb+d)

238 Poor girl, dropped on her face at birth, picked up and hit with an ugly stick.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
------------------------------
Fell out of the ugly tree, and hit every damn branch on the way down.

Posted by: Chi at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (gWJfP)

239 What offends me about this is that the people currently at State have completely forgotten about their colleagues who were held for 444 days in that hellhole. Men and women who were beaten, starved and psychologically tortured, for 444 days. Did ANY of them step up and say, "No. This is wrong." ?? No, they just cowed and went along with it. Because the people being hired at State are not putting the interests of the United States first and foremost, which was our commission. They are putting party politics first. God help and forgive us.

Posted by: Moki at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (x303I)

Great point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (/tNwW)

240
If that fails, hopefully we will win in 16 and they will not yet have the bomb, then a republican president and congress can destroy the deal.
Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (qRV1m)

Yeah and today is No-Calorie Tuesday when I eat ice cream tonight.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (9mTYi)

241 Those Kerry girls have the Dudley Dooright Lantern Jaw Award wrapped up. Slam dunks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2015 04:36 PM (eeTCA)

242
FYI - the Kerry daughter dressed like a Russian prostitute is Alexandra Kerry, trust fund kid Hollywood wannabe.

Now, the other daughter is Vanessa Kerry, who's a doctor. But unfortunately ....trigger warning:
.....................................
What happened to the top half of her head?

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2015 04:36 PM (wAQA5)

243
Now, the other daughter is Vanessa Kerry, who's a doctor. But unfortunately ....trigger warning:

I believe for the Kerry family it's Trigger warning.

Posted by: Roy Rogers

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:36 PM (JtwS4)

244 Well, for the love of pete, didn't we know what these people were capable of long ago? We knew what ubama wanted back in 2008. Why the hell are we surprised now?

Posted by: Eromero at July 07, 2015 04:36 PM (go5uR)

245 No way. Thats Sarah Jessica Parker.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

She sure does stirrup a similar reaction...

Posted by: Insomniac

Whoa.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (VAsIq)

----

Steady and stable, boys. Rein in your fear. Fear is just a mare emotion.

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (8XRCm)

246
The doctor is the one married to an Iranian
http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/7846

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (cbfNE)

247 "Can you blackmail somebody who's already willing?".

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015

No. The man is evil.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (oiNtH)

248 Nice mandibles

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (wAQA5)

249
I hope the ghost of Bibi's brother pays him a visit and slaps a little courage into him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (St6BJ)

250 Be glad you live in a part of the country that probably won't get nuked.

Point me to one please. I live someplace that was high priority on the old Soviet first strike "short list".

Not feelin' real safe these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (2l5vw)

251 I agree with the guy quoted at "Outside the Beltway" who thinks a director having her film debuted at Cannes ought to know how lighting works.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (OSs/l)

252 Steady and stable, boys. Rein in your fear. Fear is just a mare emotion.
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (8XRCm

Hay, that is something Muldoon would say.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (9mTYi)

253
Heh. To be the teensiest bit fair, sometimes something doesn't look see through until you get it under the lights. (don't ask me how I know)

You know the rule, le-dash-a.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (JtwS4)

254 Steady and stable, boys. Rein in your fear. Fear is just a mare emotion.
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (8XRCm

Hate to saddle you with this.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:39 PM (9mTYi)

255 I'm having a day-mare.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:39 PM (IPzoI)

256 If that fails, hopefully we will win in 16 and they will not yet have the bomb, then a republican president and congress can destroy the deal.
Posted by: Stone at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (qRV1m)

Yeah and today is No-Calorie Tuesday when I eat ice cream tonight.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (9mTYi)

My bet is the America haters have stalled long enough. Iran has the bomb already.

But I bet we know where every entrance to every bunker is.

>insert AllenG quote.

No, the second one.

Posted by: Obama at July 07, 2015 04:39 PM (48QDY)

257 Hood ornament for a Pontiac?
Posted by: Jefferson
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That, sirrah, is an insult to ~~Indians~~ Native Americans.

Posted by: Lizzy Warren at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (eeTCA)

258 Why the hell are we surprised now?

Posted by: Eromero

Because our "representatives" gave him what he wanted on a silver platter after vowing to fight with everything they had? Because the media is applauding this simply because Obama is "historic" and a democrat? Because the greatest nation the world has ever seen is unraveling faster than ever before?

I dunno. Who wouldn't be at least a little surprised by this?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (VAsIq)

259 I'm just thinking off the top of my head here but if Iran sends some our way, while we are in an obama state of confusion, China or Russia or both will join in with Iran.

Maybe not.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (wkuqO)

260 So essentially, the GOP is giving the White House the ok to give Iran the nuke in the hopes that by they can then use the issue to win. Does the GOP think the survivors of any nuke attack are likely to vote for them? My 7 yro wants to discuss the underpinnings of logic and rational thought with them. She will use small words so they understand.

I cannot see how this helps them at all. In fact, it gives the Dems a big old stick to whack the GOP with. Like when Hillary was for the war before she was against the war. FFS this is beyond stupid.

Posted by: Penfold at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (Fbt5B)

261 >>that is not really true. the sanctions are congressional sanctions and need Congressional approval to lift them

I think you will find that is not true. Not for the most important sanctions.

http://tinyurl.com/pdsplju

The president has always had broad powers to act on his own. We just never had a president like Obama before.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (g1DWB)

262 I hope the ghost of Bibi's brother pays him a visit and slaps a little courage into him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (St6BJ)

When the time comes, I think he'll do what he has to do. The politics are strong, but even the far left will support, probably even nudge him to act.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (BZAd3)

263 251 I agree with the guy quoted at "Outside the Beltway" who thinks a director having her film debuted at Cannes ought to know how lighting works.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (OSs/l)

There once was a film called "I Am a Camera" and evidently it was so bad that the reviewer gave it a two word review:

"No Leica."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:41 PM (St6BJ)

264 " I agree with the guy quoted at "Outside the Beltway" who thinks a director having her film debuted at Cannes ought to know how lighting works."

Infrared, the new digital cameras were/are can be made to be sensitive to infrared and can 'see through' clothing. It was a big deal for a short time.

Don't know if that is the case here.

Posted by: Ollie Boxoffer at July 07, 2015 04:41 PM (6LYFe)

265 Stop rhyming, and I mean it!

Posted by: Vizzini at July 07, 2015 04:41 PM (evdj2)

266 completely forgotten about their colleagues who were held for 444 days in that hellhole.

Dude, that was like 36 years ago.

Posted by: Tommy Vietor at July 07, 2015 04:41 PM (W5DcG)

267 Kerry DNA is cruel thing to do to a girl.

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Yeah, but her mom's money was sweeeeeeet.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:41 PM (XUKZU)

268 Anybody want a peanut?

Posted by: Chi at July 07, 2015 04:42 PM (gWJfP)

269 Steady and stable, boys. Rein in your fear. Fear is just a mare emotion.

That's my mane problem with that asshole.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 07, 2015 04:42 PM (sH832)

270 Deadline extended to July 10

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (W5DcG)

271 262 I hope the ghost of Bibi's brother pays him a visit and slaps a little courage into him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:38 PM (St6BJ)

When the time comes, I think he'll do what he has to do. The politics are strong, but even the far left will support, probably even nudge him to act.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 07, 2015 04:40 PM (BZAd3)

There is a story about a rabbi from one of the towns in Poland who after each and every atrocity and degradation from the Germans proclaimed "G-d will come and save us." Finally at the moment where he and his fellow Jews were being led into the gas chamber at Treblinka, as they looked desperately to him for an answer, he said "there is no G-d."

I hope that the words Never Again really honestly and truly mean that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (St6BJ)

272 Hill. Die.
Some assembly required.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (sH832)

273 If any press members had any curiosity, they might want to take a stroll through the gift shop in Rev. Wright's church. Take a gander at the literature that Barry said he never saw or read. It might explain everything.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2015 04:44 PM (oiNtH)

274 197

I see areola.

And a lotta jaw.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:29 PM (IPzoI)

We're gonna need a bigger bit.

Posted by: Captain Brody at July 07, 2015 04:44 PM (Vf5rR)

275 "No Leica."

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:44 PM (OSs/l)

276
off nasty chief justice sock

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:44 PM (8XRCm)

277 We're gonna need a bigger bit.
Posted by: Captain Brody at July 07, 2015 04:44 PM (Vf5rR)

That make me laugh. Thx

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (wkuqO)

278 270 Deadline extended to July 10
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (W5DcG)

Bugs Bunny cartoon where he keeps drawing a line in front of Yosemite Sam:

"I dare you to cross this one. This one. This one. THIS one . . .

Then Yosemite Sam falls off the cliff. But I don't see the connection between him and Iran.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (St6BJ)

279 There is a story about a rabbi from one of the towns in Poland who after each and every atrocity and degradation from the Germans proclaimed "G-d will come and save us." Finally at the moment where he and his fellow Jews were being led into the gas chamber at Treblinka, as they looked desperately to him for an answer, he said "there is no G-d."

Well, that's really fucking depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (2Ojst)

280 I hope that the words Never Again really honestly and truly mean that.

One would think that, if they did, they would be taking...more proactive measures.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (2l5vw)

281 God help us all

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (zOTsN)

282 Will it come to Obama ordering pilots to shoot Israeli planes out of the sky, and them refusing? And no doubt he'd issue a gag order, but they'd refuse to obey that as well. We may need a turning point like that to get rid of him and his whole stinking bunch.

Posted by: Mitch Rapp at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (xkSSa)

283 Poor girl, dropped on her face at birth, picked up and hit with an ugly stick.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
------------------------------
Fell out of the ugly tree, and hit every damn branch on the way down.

-
My wife is a teacher (sort of). The teachers have a code expression for people of her type. FLKs. Funny Looking Kid.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (XUKZU)

284 It's like watching little kids dress up in their parents' oversized clothes and play at adult.

Incidentally, I am convinced that the utter and complete data breach of the OPM personnel files was done with the approval and cooperation of the Obama administration. It is a counterpart to the Iran capitulation, enabling ISIS, and all the other things

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (LU0Wn)

285 On the plus side, DC will be one of the 1st cities targeted by nukes.

Posted by: Warden at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (wHAYQ)

286 as they looked desperately to him for an answer, he said "there is no G-d."

Well, that's really fucking depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (2Ojst)

Who was left to relay the story?

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (wkuqO)

287 We'll talk about how we should have been more curious five or six years from now.

Posted by: Bob Schieffer at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (HstNY)

288 You forget. The President did not need to go through Congress with this. He could, legally, do this all unilaterally. None of us agree with this, but the fact remains this is not considered a treaty, it is legally an executive agreement. Corker and the GOP has no leverage.

------

Agree and disagree. Obama does not get to define what a treaty is and isn't. The Senate GOP could have taken the position that any agreement negotiated between Iran and US is a treaty (I'd argue that is correct). They did not. Executive agreements are a way for the Senate to dodge taking any accountability. Though I'm sure there are some things that are immaterial and may not rise up to the definition of a treaty. A deal with Iran is not one of those things.

Corker and most of the GOP is counting on the voters to either not know or not care about whether the Constitution is followed in this regard. I'd say they are right.

Posted by: SH at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (gmeXX)

289 Unless it was intended only for Jews 'never again" has been a proven punchline for years.

Posted by: typo dynamofo says, at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (i7JE3)

290 279 Well, that's really fucking depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:45 PM (2Ojst)

If my mother, of blessed memory, were you, she could tell you a few.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (St6BJ)

291 FLKs. Funny Looking Kid.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (XU

That wasnt funny.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (9mTYi)

292 227
Kerry DNA is cruel thing to do to a girl.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:33 PM (IPzoI)

Really!

Posted by: Rumer Willis at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (Vf5rR)

293 286 Who was left to relay the story?
Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (wkuqO)

The surviving Jews from the Sonderkommando, IIRC. One correction; the Jews weren't led to the gas chamber; they were beaten and whipped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

294
If my mother, of blessed memory, were you, she could tell you a few.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (St6BJ)

I bet she could. I shudder to think.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (2Ojst)

295 290 If my mother, of blessed memory, were you, she could tell you a few.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:47 PM (St6BJ)

Were HERE. Not you.

Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

296 Posted by: Moki at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (x303I)

Great point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (/tNwW)

The Iranian Hostage Crisis started over 35 years ago. The core of the Obama cult wasn't even born then. The 'let's defeat ideologies with IDEAS' crowd didn't forget about the hostages. They don't know (or don't care) about them. That's ancient history to today's kiddies.

Posted by: joefl65 at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (UFV5W)

297
The surviving Jews from the Sonderkommando, IIRC. One correction; the Jews weren't led to the gas chamber; they were beaten and whipped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

And naked.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:49 PM (wkuqO)

298 Posted by: Warden at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (wHAYQ)

And how is the death of 500k to 1 mil Americans a plus?

Posted by: wrg500 at July 07, 2015 04:50 PM (C278+)

299 the Jews weren't led to the gas chamber; they were beaten and whipped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

And naked.

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Was this in San Francisco?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:50 PM (XUKZU)

300
INSOMNIAC IS JJ SEFTONS MOMMY?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Reverend Al at July 07, 2015 04:50 PM (8XRCm)

301 There is a story about a rabbi from one of the towns
in Poland who after each and every atrocity and degradation from the
Germans proclaimed "G-d will come and save us." Finally at the moment
where he and his fellow Jews were being led into the gas chamber at
Treblinka, as they looked desperately to him for an answer, he said
"there is no G-d."

I hope that the words Never Again really honestly and truly mean that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (St6BJ)

I was always taught that the Lord helps those that help themselves.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (OrI3J)

302 And how is the death of 500k to 1 mil Americans a plus?
At least half of them will have been Obama voters.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (sH832)

303 Hey WNS,
Did I see you say you starting a new job Monday?
Did your "problems" get resolved in any satisfactory way?

Posted by: lindafell de Spair at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (xVgrA)

304 Read some of holocaust Viktor Frankl, Insomniac-a luminous personality and spirit.

http://tinyurl.com/o85k5x3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (OSs/l)

305 298 Posted by: Warden at July 07, 2015 04:46 PM (wHAYQ)

And how is the death of 500k to 1 mil Americans a plus?
----------------------
Well I could see it as a plus if we're talking about New Yorkers.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (oDCMR)

306 On the plus side, DC will be one of the 1st cities targeted by nukes.

On the down side, it's really hard to try and hang radioactive ash for treason.

Posted by: Methos at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (ZbV+0)

307 297
The surviving Jews from the Sonderkommando, IIRC. One correction; the Jews weren't led to the gas chamber; they were beaten and whipped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

And naked.
Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:49 PM (wkuqO)

And there are elements of the prog left who get stiffies at the thought of doing this to conservatives.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (2Ojst)

308 And how is the death of 500k to 1 mil Americans a plus?

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I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed.

- General Buck Turgidson

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (XUKZU)

309 299 the Jews weren't led to the gas chamber; they were beaten and whipped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:48 PM (St6BJ)

And naked.

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Was this in San Francisco?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:50 PM (XUKZU)

Wow. A joke. Very funny. Ha.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (St6BJ)

310 In 2011* Dr Vanessa Kerry started and is CEO of a non profit called Seeds Global Health, which seems to be some lind of quasi Peace Corps.

I'll eat my hat if it doesn't have dome kind of financial hijinks gping on.

*2011 is when Kerry started lobbying for Hillary's job.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (cbfNE)

311 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?

Posted by: Bigby's High Five at July 07, 2015 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)

Johnny Blaze? We should have a gif of him on the motorcycle, for the really flaming skull worthy posts.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (nL0sw)

312 I was always taught that the Lord helps those that help themselves.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM

"What do you want? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (h4vJk)

313 Meant holocaust survivor, Viktor Frankl.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (OSs/l)

314 Was this in San Francisco?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:50 PM (XUKZU)

No it was to humiliate them.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (wkuqO)

315 Made it halfway thru the video.

Those MFMF should DIAF

We can make that happen.

Posted by: The Iranians at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (FwRqg)

316 I was always taught that the Lord helps those that help themselves.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (OrI3J)

I'm pretty sure that's from Poor Richard's Almanack.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (2Ojst)

317 I was always taught that the Lord helps those that help themselves.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (OrI3J)

And that the Lord loves a working man.

Posted by: Navin R. Johnson at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (UFV5W)

318 302
And how is the death of 500k to 1 mil Americans a plus?
At least half of them will have been Obama voters.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 07, 2015 04:51 PM (sH832)

If they target major cities (which I am sure they will) most of them will be Obama voters.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (GpgJl)

319 I remember thinking about the shocking stupidity & pride of Corker after passing his treason against the constitution.

I am still of a mind that the minimum acceptable course of actions is that he (Corker) MUST resign his position on the foreign relation committee due to his absolute ignorance of his constitutional responsibilities. Actually he should resign from the Senate, again for his ignorance to his responsibilities.

Every time the (heh) RNC calls to beg me for money or support I ask them at what point will Corker resign his position? That would be a first step to convincing me to consider supporting the RN-anything.

Corker is just the start; but he is a highly visible talisman that I think we (the general we, actually not just conservatives, but pretty much most citizens) could get behind having him removed through public pressure.

my $.02

Posted by: nuke it from orbit at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (7TIvm)

320 And there are elements of the prog left who get stiffies at the thought of doing this to conservatives.
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And we get invited to all the cool parties.

Posted by: Bill Ayers at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (HstNY)

321 Wow. A joke. Very funny. Ha.

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Sorry if I crossed the line.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (XUKZU)

322 You know I hate to say it but, the conditions are ripe for the fulfillment of Isaiah 17 and Psalms 83.

I think Obama's hoping to jump-start the Quran's version of the End Times, where trees are claimed to start speaking to direct Muslims where to kill Jews. It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie, except fruitier.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (B/VB5)

323 >>Agree and disagree. Obama does not get to define what a treaty is and isn't. The Senate GOP could have taken the position that any agreement negotiated between Iran and US is a treaty (I'd argue that is correct). They did not. Executive agreements are a way for the Senate to dodge taking any accountability. Though I'm sure there are some things that are immaterial and may not rise up to the definition of a treaty. A deal with Iran is not one of those things.

No, they couldn't. These sanctions were first imposed in 1996 and that is when the act was defined. It has been refined and changed over the years but it always had a lot of presidential leeway built into it and it was never a treaty, it was a sanctions act.

What Team Obama is doing is negotiating removing restrictions in return for Iran doing a number of things, most notably stopping actions toward a nuke. But the act always relies on the President to say that is what is happening.

You should read the various acts and you will see that whomever was President had these powers built right into them.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2015 04:54 PM (g1DWB)

324 And we get invited to all the cool parties.
Posted by: Bill Ayers at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (HstNY)

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.... and paid to teach our kids.

**spit**

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:54 PM (8XRCm)

325 321 Wow. A joke. Very funny. Ha.

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Sorry if I crossed the line.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (XUKZU)

A line that is not exactly micron-thin.

Apology accepted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:54 PM (St6BJ)

326 I hope that the words Never Again really honestly and truly mean that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:43 PM (St6BJ)

Unbelievably, just about the only thing gaining in support faster than socialism is anti-Semitism (or so it seems to me).

The way it looks to me, if they can basically undermine the values that withstood for over 200 years, in a few short years, they can totally undermine this country's support for Israel in an even shorter time. The left is almost all there now. Get a few sellouts like Corker to step up and start agitating, a significant segment of the right might just join them.

Right now, it may not sound possible, but look what has been done and how quickly it has happened.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (BZAd3)

327 "What do you want? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (h4vJk)
I'm pretty sure that's from Poor Richard's Almanack.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (2Ojst)

Punchline... exactly
Insonmiac... my grandmother loved her some Ben Franklin:-)

Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (OrI3J)

328 I think Obama's hoping to jump-start the Quran's version of the End Times, where trees are claimed to start speaking to direct Muslims where to kill Jews. It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie, except fruitier.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (B/VB5)

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Mr Twelfth Imam .... please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (8XRCm)

329 It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM

Wow...that really narrows it down.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (h4vJk)

330 nsonmiac... my grandmother loved her some Ben Franklin:-)

Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (OrI3J)

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Holy Shit..... how old is she ???

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (8XRCm)

331
It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie, except fruitier.

Which one? The one that damaged his rep or the one that killed his career in cold bloody murder?

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (IPzoI)

332 If they target major cities (which I am sure they will) most of them will be Obama voters.

And why should it matter WHO they voted for?

Posted by: wrg500 at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (C278+)

333 Those MFMF should DIAF

We can make that happen.
Posted by: The Iranians at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (FwRqg)

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Every mushroom cloud has a shiny side!

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (cbfNE)

334 I think Obama's hoping to jump-start the Quran's version of the End Times, where trees are claimed to start speaking to direct Muslims where to kill Jews. It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie, except fruitier.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2015 04:53 PM (B/VB5)

Avatar The Last Airbender?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (2Ojst)

335 At least half of them will have been Obama voters.

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If it's DC maybe 90% Obama voters.

Posted by: Ken at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (LXJ1e)

336 Pretty funny picture up on Drudge of Hillary!'s fat toes squeezing out of her pointy witch shoes.

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (wAQA5)

337 It's like that really bad M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie, except fruitier.

Iran is the Fire Nation?

Posted by: Methos at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (ZbV+0)

338 326 Unbelievably, just about the only thing gaining in support faster than socialism is anti-Semitism (or so it seems to me).

Once you have one, the other one is not far behind. It picks up speed when the socialism fails, as it inevitably always does.

Stay tuned.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:57 PM (St6BJ)

339 Depressing thread and conversation. It's unbelievable we are in this situation. The World has gone mad.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:57 PM (/tNwW)

340 Then Yosemite Sam falls off the cliff. But I don't see the connection between him and Iran.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Yosemitie Sam = U.S.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2015 04:57 PM (eeTCA)

341 smalldeadanimals had a sad picture of a pensioner crying because he couldn't get any money.

Elections apparently do have consequences....decades after the fact sometimes, but still....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (AC0lD)

342 Holy Shit..... how old is she ???

Posted by: fixerupper at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (8XRCm)

LOL... not in the Biblical sense, of course.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (OrI3J)

343 DC will have a name change soon. Can't have a slave holder honored any longer. Besides CBF.

Posted by: just saying at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (wkuqO)

344 Well I could see it as a plus if we're talking about New Yorkers.

Could we stop with this Farking evil bs.?!! You think a nuclear hit on NY only affects NYC or that all NYC'ers are leftist or that anyone in the US deserves this.
I'm calling you out. That's reprehensible and if i were ace i'm consider banning your backside.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (OSs/l)

345 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (GpgJl)

346 Which one? The one that damaged his rep or the one that killed his career in cold bloody murder?

The one where the trees released a deadly gas as revenge for global warming.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (B/VB5)

347 Completely OT but before it falls out of my mind, the lovely actress Adrienne Shelly (of Hal Hartley film fame) was murdered by an illegal alien in her home in NYC in 2006.

Also, when I graduated from college (ages ago!) in Philadelphia, a truck full of illegals crashed into a visiting parent's parked car, totalling it. That used to happen quite often - I was rear-ended at a red light by a drunk illegal (at 10am!) in Philly. (fortunately I had a much bigger car than they did so twas but a scratch.)

Posted by: UppityOrchid at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (mJUSR)

348 Does the Flaming Skull have a name? Like Jonny or something? What's he/she look like?

Maybe Jeff from Craig Ferguson's show finally got a new gig.

Posted by: dartist at July 07, 2015 04:58 PM (ahBY0)

349 333 Every mushroom cloud has a shiny side!
Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2015 04:56 PM (cbfNE)

*Vera Lynn singing**

"We'll meet again,
Don't know where don't know when,
But I know we'll meet again,
some sunny day . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 07, 2015 04:59 PM (St6BJ)

350 Steady and stable, boys. Rein in your fear. Fear is just a mare emotion.
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 07, 2015 04:37 PM (8XRCm

Hate to saddle you with this.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2015 04:39 PM (9mTYi)

But if you want to get hitched, who are we to stand in the way?

Posted by: Justice Kennedy at July 07, 2015 04:59 PM (+jijM)

351 No, they couldn't. These sanctions were first imposed in 1996 and that is when the act was defined. It has been refined and changed over the years but it always had a lot of presidential leeway built into it and it was never a treaty, it was a sanctions act.

What Team Obama is doing is negotiating removing restrictions in return for Iran doing a number of things, most notably stopping actions toward a nuke. But the act always relies on the President to say that is what is happening.

You should read the various acts and you will see that whomever was President had these powers built right into them.

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Doing X in return for Y sounds like an agreement of sorts. You can argue that any new agreement is tantamount to being a treaty. Just because a prior act gave the President such power does not remove the treaty consent power of the Senate. I do not care what the acts themselves say. Its the Constitution that matters. The Senate GOP could have said any new arrangement is a treaty requiring 2/3 approval. Obama could take your position. Its a political question. Throw it to the people.

Posted by: SH at July 07, 2015 04:59 PM (gmeXX)

352 ok my comment is now less OT

so I'm moving it to . .

TEH NOOD!!!

Posted by: UppityOrchid at July 07, 2015 04:59 PM (mJUSR)

353 "What do you want? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."
Posted by: Just the punchline at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (h4vJk)

I'm pretty sure that's from Poor Richard's Almanack.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2015 04:52 PM (2Ojst)

Punchline... exactly
Insonmiac... my grandmother loved her some Ben Franklin:-)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 07, 2015 04:55 PM (OrI3J)

I'm pretty sure ben franklin wasn't joking about helicopters. I guess the newer versions are adaptations of an original I guess I haven't heard?

Posted by: Lea at July 07, 2015 04:59 PM (lIU4e)

354 Great point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (/tNwW)

Do you think Jen Psaki and Marie Harf have any knowledge of the Iranian hostage crisis? They went through the US school system and each graduated from US colleges, where history is only taught that the US is racist, bigoted, imperialistic and warmongering.

The latest mouthpiece, John Kirby, might recall, since he taught at the Naval Academy, but I'm not putting my money on it.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2015 05:01 PM (WV80V)

355
SH is right, there is a lot of gray area on treaties vs. executive agreements with foreign countries/entities, all of it pre-dating Obama and actually "real" (i.e., not brazen lawlessness like much of Obama's behavior, and SCOTUS behavior).

But this is a case where the substance completely overshadows the procedural questions, legit as they are.

Unserious country. There's a reason many of us have been using this description, and for years (and not just starting in 200

.

We are watching (have been watching) a deliberate, slow-motion trainwreck, self-inflicted, regarding absolutely top-level national security issues. Iran has been the most effective, most dangerous, most blood-soaked enemy of the US for going more than a generation (and no, to the large unserious contingent here, that doesn't yield chimpanzee logic of "we should have invaded Iran instead! eleventy! derp!").

The laboriously constructed (improbably, really) scaffolding of harrassment/containment on the nuke program had and was yielding results. Which doesn't mean Bush didn't wrongly kick the can down the road by not striking back in his second term, but anyway. And - thrown away. A bloodsoaked, determined, hyper-active enemy of the US and all our partners/allies/cooperative neutrals, given billions of $$$ and a de facto clear path to nukedom.

It's not just the GOP. The same country that won the Cold War has not a single institution, clique, constituency, faction, or tendency of any importance to stand up to this insanity. Not a serious country.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2015 05:03 PM (QDnY+)

356 Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2015 04:54 PM (g1DWB)

You pointed this out a awhile back and it made me change my mind on what I thought of the Corker bill. While I don't agree with the strategy( I would have called Obam's bluff) I understand why they did what they did. Unfortunately we would have been no worse off now if we would have rejected the bill.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 07, 2015 05:04 PM (4SgJh)

357
The doctor is the one married to an Iranian
Posted by: @votermom

Her husband would have preferred to be a suicide bomber, but he just didn't have the SAT scores for it.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 07, 2015 05:04 PM (kdS6q)

358 obama's gonna get his little buddies nuked straight to the gay muslim afterlife.

Posted by: X at July 07, 2015 05:07 PM (xGNLA)

359 105
"I have not yet begun to cave!"
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"Do give up the ship!" - Oliver Hazardous Kerry

Posted by: exdem13 at July 07, 2015 05:08 PM (ry4ab)

360 On the down side, it's really hard to try and hang radioactive ash for treason.

Posted by: Methos

But I'm willing to give it a try.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 05:11 PM (VAsIq)

361 Her husband would have preferred to be a suicide bomber, but he just didn't have the SAT scores for it.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

Took up horse-riding instead.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 07, 2015 05:12 PM (VAsIq)

362 296
Posted by: Moki at July 07, 2015 04:34 PM (x303I)

Great point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2015 04:35 PM (/tNwW)

The Iranian Hostage Crisis started over 35 years ago. The core of
the Obama cult wasn't even born then. The 'let's defeat ideologies with
IDEAS' crowd didn't forget about the hostages. They don't know (or don't
care) about them. That's ancient history to today's kiddies.
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The "defeat ideologies with ideas" zombies were taught and encouraged in their idiocy by the people who supported Carter while he asked Iran to pretty please release the hostages for the umpteenth time while they laughed at him and paraded the hostages on TV to shame us in front of the entire world. The Blame America Firsters have willingly stood between the USA and Iran, preventing a much-needed attitude adjustment from 1979-2009. Then Obummer got elected, the Iranians rose up thinking he would save them, and he shrugged and said "not my problem" before heading off to the golf course. The situation we are in right now is what Obummer and the idiots who taught the idiot kids have wanted for all these years.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 07, 2015 05:17 PM (ry4ab)

363 "God is dead "- Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead "- God

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 07, 2015 05:19 PM (baR5c)

364 "Oh right-- we'll lose the vote but then we get to gin up the base and run on the issue later."

And then do what? They "run on the issue" and never do anything. They ran on Obamacare, did nothing. Ran on illegal immigration, did nothing. Wait -- they enabled the actual policies they claimed to run against. So they really did do something. My mistake.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 07, 2015 05:22 PM (s/yC1)

365 Obama is giving Iran the nuke -- and almost the entirety of the GOP
abetted him in this -- and there's nothing that can stop that now.

Not true. Israel has developed and tested the high-velocity penetrating weapon (HVPW), which was used in Yemen on April 20, 2015--Hitler's birthday!

It's a hypersonic bunker buster that we've been working on since 2011. The IDF beat us to it.

The videos show Yemeni cameramen knocked off their feet by the shock wave from 1.5 miles away.

Don't worry. Do some research. The IDF is preparing to destroy Hezbollah and take out Iran's nuclear program. The US no longer has any influence over Israel.

If I know the Israelis, they'll launch the attack as Obama is announcing that a deal has been made. It's going to be magnificent.

Posted by: Dialog Generator at July 07, 2015 05:29 PM (MnLCS)

366 Still persisting with the lies and slander against Corker and the GOP.

Once more, on the off chance any casual reader gives a damn about the truth:

OBAMA WAS NEVER GOING TO SUBMIT THIS AS A TREATY.

Go back before the negotiations began in 2013. He has been consistent on the point, and there is no way to force him to - absent 67 votes in the Senate and 290 in the House to override his veto.

Without the Corker bill, Congress would have NO SAY at all. Check it out yourself. Do some actual research. Don't rely on dishonest lunatics.

Posted by: Adjoran at July 07, 2015 05:32 PM (QIQ6j)

367 My exit polling shows Flynn winning 100% to zero. But I was the only one there. 30 votes all day so far (including Democrats) out of seven hundred something registered in this district. This is rural, but I'm guessing low turnout may favor Flynn.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 07, 2015 05:36 PM (eNP7U)

368 If I know the Israelis, they'll launch the attack as Obama is announcing that a deal has been made. It's going to be magnificent.
Posted by: Dialog Generator at July 07, 2015 05:29 PM (MnLCS)

God, I hope you're right.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 07, 2015 05:39 PM (s/yC1)

369 Without the Corker bill, Congress would have NO SAY at all.

What say do they have now?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 07, 2015 05:42 PM (rwI+c)

370 Go back before the negotiations began in 2013. He has been consistent on the point, and there is no way to force him to - absent 67 votes in the Senate and 290 in the House to override his veto.

Are you even slightly familiar with this subject? Override? What are you imagining the Senate having to override?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 07, 2015 05:45 PM (rwI+c)

371 I like the combining of fascist and facade into fascade.

Posted by: John Pomeroy at July 07, 2015 06:14 PM (4LdUV)

372 What can stop this is a R president who flat says that having not ben ratified in the positive sense that is approved by 67 senators , it is no treaty . And whatever it is , it is not a treaty . For feel good purposes , I suppose this R president could then submit the text , if said text ever exists , for ratification . It would be nice to see which D 's endorse giving nukes to the mullahs . Alternatively , we can wait for the mushroom clouds .Or regime change , blockades casus belli stuff . Either way a couple of million dead .

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at July 07, 2015 06:16 PM (uvj0z)

373 I agree with Ace on Republicans in Congress.

I do not think "enemies" is too strong a word to describe them.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 07, 2015 08:33 PM (YFw5T)

374 As Senator Rubio says (in commercial)...we are "building the bomb for them."

And...winning!...cutting the army by 40,000 and having a whopping 60 SIXTY Iraqi fighters in training. Well, my flying monkeys, we are in good hands.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, has a Hobbit foot at July 07, 2015 08:44 PM (5br9Q)

375 sorry about the election results -- but Flynn has his name out there; it's a good place to build to challenge LaHood in the 2016 when more people will be paying attention.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at July 07, 2015 08:54 PM (nJvB1)

376 On the positive side, great use of the Dark Knight Rises score.

Posted by: SplatticusFinch at July 07, 2015 08:59 PM (LcIIu)

377 The Joos won't let Iran go nuclear. Not going to happen. Jug ears and his fuckfaced minions can negotiate alllllll day long.

Won't matter.

Crafty, those Joos are.

Fucking crafty.

Posted by: Community Organizer at July 07, 2015 10:31 PM (Bjvsz)

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