A Reading of the Declaration of Independence

I don't know the actor reading it.

But it's good. It sounds so natural and potent when read aloud.

Thanks to @slublog for that.

Posted by: Ace at 02:13 PM

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1 It's Bill Barker.

Posted by: SarahW at July 04, 2015 02:14 PM (lv2k0)

2 http://www.thethomasjefferson.com

Posted by: SarahW at July 04, 2015 02:15 PM (lv2k0)

3 Stomp! Pushed down like a fat kid at recess.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 04, 2015 02:16 PM (mG3Qj)

4 A thread that does not require comments.

All the juicy goodness is in the actual post.

Must be an AoSHQ first.

And the thread below this just went back into draft.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 02:18 PM (VPLuQ)

5 Lots of comments in earlier threads about not celebrating today due to the degradation of our country by the left. It's important to remember what our forefathers did and why. Today I will celebrate what they gave us, not the mess the left hade made. Semper Fi

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2015 02:18 PM (kTF2Z)

6 A Happy and safe 4th to You all...

Posted by: donna at July 04, 2015 02:18 PM (Bn6aD)

7 Can't give up.

Posted by: skip at July 04, 2015 02:19 PM (AtCj6)

8 Hade = has. But you knew that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2015 02:20 PM (kTF2Z)

9 OT, and this belongs in the dead garden thread, but my uncle sent me this. If pixy will let me post it.

https://www.youtube-

nocookie.com/embed/xHkq1edcbk4?rel=0

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 02:20 PM (86JwB)

10
Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove

https://youtu.be/GTVH41QucDU

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2015 02:22 PM (kdS6q)

11 I'm in the middle of the John Adams marathon and just watched the segment where they debated leaving Great Britain. It finished with the first public reading of the Declaration of Independence.

To risk everything on the ideas of equality, liberty and the rule of law not of men. It should be required reading for everyone, particularly our political class.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2015 02:23 PM (g1DWB)

12 For Independence day.

Pop Evil - Boss's Daughter.

Rock music

Muscle Car

Smokin' hot chicks

And a big ass American Flag.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 02:23 PM (zt+N6)

13 https://youtu.be/eFOvZojUJto

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 02:24 PM (zt+N6)

14 Obligatory viewing every Fourth of July: TJ and the Revo's patriotic cover of Apologize.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2015 02:25 PM (LiMbk)

15 The only way for rational and civilized men to deal with tyrants is to kill them in cold blood. Nothing else will suffice.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/06/no-truce-with-left.html

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2015 02:26 PM (sdi6R)

16 Muscle Car>>>

Sounds like a Longbow vs Crossbow argument in the making.

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 02:26 PM (1SHv1)

17 Alternate Fourth of July song:

https://youtu.be/q_tS3NcdFT0

Great song by Waylon's son.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2015 02:27 PM (nL0sw)

18 You've not experienced the Declaration of Independence until you've heard it read in the original Klingon.

Posted by: Chancellor Gorkon at July 04, 2015 02:28 PM (0MJOU)

19 You've not experienced the Declaration of Independence until you've heard it read in the original Klingon.

Posted by: Chancellor Gorkon at July 04, 2015 02:28 PM (0MJOU)

20
James Brown - Living in America (Rocky IV) 1985

https://youtu.be/jZUWQdSTQ7Q?t=56s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2015 02:29 PM (kdS6q)

21 I want independence from the Left !

Posted by: gene kelly at July 04, 2015 02:30 PM (RF62P)

22 Freakin' X!

I used to listen to this song on this day... I had forgotten. Great song.

Find Aimee Mann's Fourth of July as well... oh heck, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYI85anqmQ

Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2015 02:33 PM (Dj0WE)

23 Today we declare our dependence on government cheese, and government doctors.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 04, 2015 02:34 PM (zauWW)

24 "It sounds so natural and potent when read aloud."

Yes. Especially this part.

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another..."

Especially this year.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2015 02:35 PM (noWW6)

25 "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another..."

Yeah, that phrase seems to back up my stance on what increasingly seems like a good idea.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 04, 2015 02:37 PM (KVRil)

26 Kind of fucking retarded celebrating July 4th, since the citizens are much less free now than when the founders decided to start shooting about it.

Posted by: JD at July 04, 2015 02:38 PM (TzeLs)

27 If I won the lottery this is the Muscle car I would buy (owned a 1970 base GS 350) so I probably am tainted with being a recent HS graduate with a killer fast car that I could afford in 1980.

http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/classic-muscle-cars/1970-buick-gsx.htm

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 02:39 PM (1SHv1)

28 "It sounds so natural and potent when read aloud."

It's all in the commas.

Posted by: "Sage of Monticello" at July 04, 2015 02:39 PM (UKhBB)

29 26 Kind of fucking retarded celebrating July 4th, since the citizens are much less free now than when the founders decided to start shooting about it.
Posted by: JD at July 04, 2015 02:38 PM (TzeLs)

We hear about the imposed taxes, first of all they weren't that great. The patriots didn't like to be told what to pay and what to do. That genetic material is still floating around.

Posted by: just saying at July 04, 2015 02:40 PM (wkuqO)

30 Incidentally, I put my Threeper flag out today. Seemed appropriate.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2015 02:41 PM (nL0sw)

31 Awesome. I just finished my annual reading of the Declaration. The copy I have is a small book published by Barnes & noble & contains the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution & the Articles of Confederation. The book opens with following quote by Alexander Hamilton. As so much of what the Founders & Framers said and did, it is still timely today:

The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself, and can never be erased.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 02:42 PM (+QcGV)

32 E plebneesta

Posted by: Cloud William at July 04, 2015 02:44 PM (W5DcG)

33 This Fourth of July has done more to make us think about the state of our Nation than any in recent memory. Whether your resolve, to right the ship, has strengthened or belief that we are beyond hope prevails, this has indeed been a memorable Fourth.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2015 02:48 PM (/U1UX)

34 Dig the X link too. Gonna have to check when they're playing the pacific amphitheater this summer, and try to go see them.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 02:51 PM (+QcGV)

35
Declaration of Independence

The worlds greatest breakup letter.
USA: It's not us, it's you.

Posted by: Neal deGrasse Tyson at July 04, 2015 02:51 PM (95m+K)

36 Listening to the Declaration of Independence, and the list of complaints about King George,
I heard quite a few points that would definitely apply to King Putt.

Posted by: seamrog at July 04, 2015 02:54 PM (iyU01)

37 "And a big ass American Flag."

Flew that flag when it still represented the slowly fading Republic. All done with flying the flag of the corrupt, senile, arrogant Empire.

Going to fly a mix of Gadsden, Moultrie and Whiskey Rebellion flags from now on.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2015 02:55 PM (noWW6)

38 July 4th, 1976

Israelii raid on Entebbe freeing over a 100 Israeli prisoners:

http://tinyurl.com/q423xl9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 02:56 PM (OSs/l)

39 Whiskey tax was to help pay off the debt from the revolutionary war, just as soon as its paid off they will terminate the tax.

Posted by: just saying at July 04, 2015 02:57 PM (wkuqO)

40 Braveheart- It is a training manual.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2015 02:58 PM (/U1UX)

41 X-cellent music selection, Ace!

Posted by: BraineaterBob at July 04, 2015 02:58 PM (N25Er)

42 Fenelon, your link done broke.

TinyURL got fed a source URL with a letter omitted.

Repaired it.

http://tinyurl.com/ph7f7j7

Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2015 03:00 PM (noWW6)

43 In less than two years Fauxbama will be living somewhere other than 1600 Penn. Ave. Probably SF w/ Reggie. We can hold out until this national nightmare is over.

Posted by: Typical White Woman at July 04, 2015 03:01 PM (gwG9s)

44 "Going to fly a mix of Gadsden, Moultrie and Whiskey Rebellion flags from now on."

I threw my US flag away. The Gadsden flag is displayed in my picture window.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 04, 2015 03:01 PM (YFw5T)

45 it's a cookbooook

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 04, 2015 03:01 PM (TF10X)

46 It's worth noting that we didn't start the Revolution because of taxes.

We started it because we had no representation voting on those taxes. We had no voice in the legislative bodies of the British government.

It wasn't the taxes - it was the principle of the thing.

Looking around, I can't help but notice that we're right back where we started. It's not the fact that there are crazy regulations and taxes and fees and asinine decisions coming out of all branches of government.

It's that we simply have no representation.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:04 PM (cv6Ng)

47 TCM is starting the musical 1776. I had the LP and played the crap out of it while in college.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2015 03:05 PM (FvdPb)

48 As Brit once asked me 'How do you like those taxes with representation?"

Posted by: just saying at July 04, 2015 03:06 PM (wkuqO)

49 "In less than two years Fauxbama will be living somewhere other than 1600
Penn. Ave. Probably SF w/ Reggie. We can hold out until this national
nightmare is over."

Less than two years? Reflect that the subjects of the Empire will have SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts re-writing legislation from the bench according to his personal whim for the next three or four decades.

Imagine _King v. Burwell_ over and over and over again.

The nightmare isn't nearly over. It hasn't even really cranked up yet. Things get much much worse from here on out.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2015 03:06 PM (noWW6)

50 Meanwhile Evil Bernie plots against Liberty.

Posted by: torabora at July 04, 2015 03:07 PM (ijfIq)

51 My wife is covered with Teflon. Nothing sticks. Happy 4th you dumb hicks! Haw!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at July 04, 2015 03:09 PM (gwG9s)

52 Off to a BBQ soon. Let's see how many people I can make uncomfortable with a vodka-fueled rant. I promise I'll wait for a moonbat to fire the first shot before I go thermonuclear.

Posted by: PabloD at July 04, 2015 03:10 PM (dm0Ey)

53 Nice to read (or listen to) and remember today. I'm not giving up.

And now off to listen to the Stars and Stripes forever because it's not the fourth without Sousa.

Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:11 PM (vmMMi)

54 it's not the fourth without Sousa.

Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:11 PM (vmMMi)

A-friggin-men

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:12 PM (cv6Ng)

55 Just set up my viewing spot on the roof for tonight. I can see no fewer then 6 shows at once. Depending on marine layer/ fog. Hoping for a clear night.

Posted by: tinfoilbaby at July 04, 2015 03:13 PM (H3SRF)

56 Celebrate the idea. Celebrate the ideal. Celebrate the principles. Those truths ARE self-evident. And though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.

Posted by: irright at July 04, 2015 03:14 PM (DtNNC)

57 Happy 4th of July everyone.

I don't usually drink but I picked up a case of Labatt's Blue to join all of you today. And something called 'Bavaria 86' with 7.9% alcohol in a 660 mL (23 oz) bottle.

It's very sad to read all of the comments and hear everyone's sadness and frustration. And I understand. But it's not the beer, and it's not blind hope or optimism, but I do see freedom making a big comeback in a few years. I'll be optimistic enough for several of us while I work on my part of that.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 03:15 PM (AC0lD)

58 I'm on the high diving board with a lit sparkler in my ass. Watch this!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 04, 2015 03:16 PM (gwG9s)

59 And now for a little the tax collectors are out of control story. My 'burb's Independence Day parade is under way several blocks from my house. I'm sitting on my balcony drinking coffee, talking to you fellow drunkards & watching the families go by since the marine layer burned off & its beautiful out. Car across the street is parked 6 fucking INCHES in the red. And here comes mr la city parking enforcement. I yell at him, come on its Indeoendence Day, the car is only 6" inchex in the red. He goes sorry nothing I can do. The irony was completely lost on him.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:18 PM (+QcGV)

60 I'm on the high diving board with a lit sparkler in my ass. Watch this!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 04, 2015 03:16 PM (gwG9s)

And, just a guess, but you are nude as well,are you not?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 03:18 PM (ftVQq)

61 >>54 it's not the fourth without Sousa.
Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:11 PM (vmMMi)
A-friggin-men
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:12 PM (cv6Ng)

How you can write a piccolo solo that makes me want to go fight somebody I'll never know.

All this talk of vodka and whiskey makes me wish we had alcohol at family events...

Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:20 PM (vmMMi)

62 "I'm on the high diving board with a lit sparkler in my ass. Watch this!"

Hey Joe, try it with a roman candle!

Posted by: Chris M at July 04, 2015 03:20 PM (6RZos)

63 39 Whiskey tax was to help pay off the debt from the revolutionary war, just as soon as its paid off they will terminate the tax.
---
Brilliant, and totally just stolen by me for FB.

Posted by: JD at July 04, 2015 03:20 PM (TzeLs)

64 #59 Swarms of agents, eating out our substance....

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 04, 2015 03:20 PM (Kucy5)

65 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:18 PM (+QcGV)

Best part is that there is a whole lot more that government can do ~~for~~ to you, and you'll be hearing about it soon.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (ftVQq)

66 I found this clip from one of the comments at the Sultan Knish post I linked earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdAU5b97wYQ

Sen. Russ Feingold: "This game's not over until we win."

That should tell you everything you need to know about the Left.

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (sdi6R)

67 Why do we remember a pledge to devote lives, fortunes and sacred honor on a website that continually posts rants about how we should let the country "burn"?

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (EgbCN)

68 49 Reflect that the subjects of the Empire will have SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts re-writing legislation from the bench according to his personal whim for the next three or four decades.
Imagine _King v. Burwell_ over and over
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2015 03:06 PM

How about an optimistic take: President Cruz sics Attorney General Mark Levin on dread justice Roberts with the NSA file, to make him resign. President Cruz then appoints Levin Chief Justice.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:24 PM (+QcGV)

69 66: Puss Feingold is a commie piece of monkey shit. Our dumb fuck state wil probably elect this shit for brains loser again.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at July 04, 2015 03:25 PM (ucDmr)

70 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:18 PM (+QcGV)

There was a basement contractor working in my parent's basement about 3 years ago in Ontario - which has the highest debt of any sub-national area in the world.

He was pulled over on the way to the house by the cops for a 'safety check.' He ended up with $2000 in fines!! There was nothing that couldn't have been let go with a follow up appointment with the police to make sure everything was 'up to code' in a province that wasn't drowning in debt.

But freedom is around the corner. Just trust me on this....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 03:27 PM (AC0lD)

71 Nevermind this you guys

Posted by: AoS Plagarist at July 04, 2015 03:27 PM (TzeLs)

72 54 it's not the fourth without Sousa.
Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:11 PM (vmMMi)
A-friggin-men
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:12 PM (cv6Ng)

Yep, which is why I am now jumping in the shower so I can head down to Disneyland and see the USMC band play Sousa live!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:28 PM (+QcGV)

73 God what a pathetic sad turd you must be to have your entire internet persona invested in being obsessed with DrewM.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (zt+N6)

74 All this talk of vodka and whiskey makes me wish we had alcohol at family events...

Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:20 PM (vmMMi)

Alcohol is precisely how I survive family events.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (cv6Ng)

75 Yep, which is why I am now jumping in the shower so I can head down to Disneyland and see the USMC band play Sousa live!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:28 PM (+QcGV)

You know the rules.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (cv6Ng)

76 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (EgbCN)

Hello douchebag.

Still alone...no family....no friends....nobody who cares about you....so you try to shit on a nice blog post.

I'm glad I don't know you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:31 PM (Zu3d9)

77 Meanwhile Evil Bernie plots against Liberty.

Uncle Bernie's Farm

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2015 03:34 PM (W5DcG)

78 Ouch! Who knew sparklers still burned under water? My proctologist is out on his boat. Thank God I'm above ACA!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 04, 2015 03:35 PM (gwG9s)

79 75 You know the rules.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (cv6Ng)

Are you gonna get me out if trouble if it pisses Ace off?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:35 PM (+QcGV)

80 Picked up Little VIA from Broad Creek Scout camp today.
Completed the 1 mile swim, and for grins, he did some clay shooting.

Hit 11 out of twelve with no previous experience.

17th birthday is in three days.

What to get...what to get?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 03:38 PM (VPLuQ)

81 76 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (EgbCN)

Hello douchebag.

Still alone...no family....no friends....nobody who cares about you....so you try to shit on a nice blog post.

I'm glad I don't know you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:31 PM (Zu3d9)
-----
Well that was abrupt. :-)

Posted by: AoS Plagarist at July 04, 2015 03:38 PM (TzeLs)

82 79
75 You know the rules.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (cv6Ng)

Are you gonna get me out if trouble if it pisses Ace off?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:35 PM (+QcGV)

Believe me, here are a lot of us that will speak favorably of you to Ace, in the highly unlikely event you get into trouble!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 03:40 PM (ftVQq)

83 ...he did some clay shooting.

Hit 11 out of twelve with no previous experience.

17th birthday is in three days.

What to get...what to get?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 03:38 PM (VPLuQ)

Browning Citori 725?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2015 03:40 PM (nL0sw)

84 I don't think a nice pair of boobs would piss Ace off. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2015 03:40 PM (sdi6R)

85 Browning Citori 725?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2015 03:40 PM (nL0sw)

Wonder why I mentally added an "l" to that post.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 03:41 PM (ftVQq)

86 Best wishes to all of the Horde on this Independencd day.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 04, 2015 03:42 PM (6n332)

87 Declaration Of Independence. And to think it's all going to have to be done all over again. Soon. Before it's too late.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2015 03:43 PM (go5uR)

88 "Wonder why I mentally added an "l" to that post."

You too?

Great minds, and all that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 03:43 PM (VPLuQ)

89 *does Forrest Gump wave at Ace and Horde*

Happy Fourth!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 04, 2015 03:44 PM (eEb+d)

90 Enjoying the highly regulated and taxed whiskey, just went out and met the neighbor for the first time to give her a overbought king size kit cat bar on my duplex porch, but she wasn't there. Instead, her kid was there, a 14 or 16 - hell if I know kid. So being I was suddenly standing on the porch I said, "hey you want a candy bar?" She said thanks. Now I'm back in my house, thinking, that's the only thing they know me by.

Posted by: AoS Plagarist at July 04, 2015 03:47 PM (TzeLs)

91 All this talk of vodka and whiskey makes me wish we had alcohol at family events...

There is this new invention called a flask....

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 04, 2015 03:48 PM (zauWW)

92 LOVE X's "4th of July" - Thanks!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2015 03:50 PM (NOIQH)

93 Darwin never sleeps.

http://tinyurl.com/nhullju

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 03:50 PM (GLTXX)

94 Browning Citori 725?

Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2015 03:40 PM (nL0sw)

Heh.....

[$3,000 last time I looked]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:50 PM (Zu3d9)

95 John Philip Sousa and his band used to regularly play concerts at an amusement park not far from me. Of course, that was long before my time.

Here is a promotional film I found a couple of months ago. It's from the 1950s, which was after Sousa's time and before mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQedCO5izk

The site was redeveloped into a shopping mall in the 1970s.

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2015 03:50 PM (sdi6R)

96 Believe me, here are a lot of us that will speak favorably of you to Ace, in the highly unlikely event you get into trouble!

Alright, you jokers best have my back,
http://tinypic.com/r/2wc2rrn/8

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:51 PM (+QcGV)

97 How about an optimistic take: President Cruz sics Attorney General Mark Levin on dread justice Roberts with the NSA file, to make him resign. President Cruz then appoints Levin Chief Justice.

Warms the empty place where my heart used to be.

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 03:52 PM (86JwB)

98 Fun fact: Huntington Beach has the largest 4th of July parade in the nation. Surf City. Fun fact #2: They stole that surf city thing from San Clemente. But what do you expect from a place known for skinheads, surf Nazis, facist cops and the occasional riot. We just have Nixon to live down.

Posted by: tinfoilbaby at July 04, 2015 03:52 PM (H3SRF)

99 76 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:21 PM (EgbCN)

Hello douchebag.

Still alone...no family....no friends....nobody who cares about you....so you try to shit on a nice blog post.

I'm glad I don't know you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:31 PM (Zu3d9)

Such a smart rebuttal to what I wrote. I see how you read, understood and artfully refuted my charge of hypocrisy and, oh wait, that was just a simian threat display because someone pointed out the bandwagon you hopped on is anything but patriotic.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:53 PM (EgbCN)

100 heh bebe,

You know that it's going to be a bit quiet now that you have the 'rons stampeding to their respective bunks.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 03:53 PM (kmtse)

101 Hey Horde,

I'm in the Midwest representing our pantsless legion as an HIV (Highly Inebriated Voter) today. Hope you're all enjoying your friends, families, fireworks, and firewater. Try not to lose any extremities.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 04, 2015 03:54 PM (6DhGo)

102 73 God what a pathetic sad turd you must be to have your entire internet persona invested in being obsessed with DrewM.
Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 03:30 PM (zt+N6)

Yeah.. .that's my ENTIRE internet persona... So are you down with the hypocrisy as well?

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:54 PM (EgbCN)

103 SMFH & Eris!!!!!

Happy Independence Day. See y'all a bit later.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:56 PM (+QcGV)

104 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:53 PM (EgbCN)

You're a troll.....why would I care what you think?

Enjoy your solitude.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:56 PM (Zu3d9)

105 Beebs! Happy happy happy fourth!

Always thinking of the troops...

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 04, 2015 03:56 PM (6DhGo)

106 All Hail Eris,

Hooah.

Have fun bebe!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 03:57 PM (kmtse)

107 Well my Independence day is on track. Cheap smoker, Cheap Beer and Cheap Meat with several hours outside culminating in tastiness.

Rich is a state of mind.

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 03:58 PM (1SHv1)

108 King George could've avoided so much trouble if he'd had automatic withholding.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 04, 2015 03:59 PM (VRc/p)

109 ""104 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:53 PM (EgbCN)

You're a troll.....why would I care what you think?

Enjoy your solitude.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2015 03:56 PM (Zu3d9)""

You are a lemming who will believe what you are told for the feeling of belonging and poop yourself when someone points out that what you are defending is fundamentally at odds with what you are celebrating today. YOU CAN'T BE A PATRIOT AND A RIDE ON THE LET IT BURN BANDWAGON.
So again, isn't it pretty schizophrenic for some of the people here to be celebrating the independence of a country that you want to let burn?

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:00 PM (EgbCN)

110 Rich is a state of mind.

This, working on a bottle to 2 buck chuck which is now $2.76 each per case.

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:00 PM (86JwB)

111 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:00 PM (EgbCN)

I think you are missing a shine box.

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:01 PM (86JwB)

112 You are a lemming! You must support the Republican party no matter what they do! Don't be a lemming! Follow John Boehner and Mitch McConnell not matter how much they shit on you! Lemmings!

Posted by: Notice me ace and DrewM! Acknowledge my pathetic existence! at July 04, 2015 04:02 PM (zt+N6)

113 As someone who regularly rides the Let It Burn Express, I understand the sentiment only too well. A lot of vets especially feel that way, for obvious reasons.

Yet some here will not allow me to just sit by and not do something. My oath will not allow me.

My children and grandchildren will not allow me.

My lost friends will not allow me.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:04 PM (kmtse)

114 ""111 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:00 PM (EgbCN)

I think you are missing a shine box.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:01 PM (86JwB)""

A clever refutation of what I wrote. Oh wait...

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:05 PM (EgbCN)

115 If John Roberts had been around a few hundred years ago, he could've had the Supreme Court's ability to write laws added more clearly into the Constitution.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 04, 2015 04:05 PM (VRc/p)

116 Hillary corrals the press.

http://tinyurl.com/ne2m99z

First rule of journalism: have no shame.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:06 PM (fU38A)

117 Needs Moar Cowbell

Posted by: Shit Hamilton Said at July 04, 2015 04:07 PM (/zVYG)

118 112 You are a lemming! You must support the Republican party no matter what they do! Don't be a lemming! Follow John Boehner and Mitch McConnell not matter how much they shit on you! Lemmings!
Posted by: Notice me ace and DrewM! Acknowledge my pathetic existence! at July 04, 2015 04:02 PM (zt+N6)

Ummm, no, getting off your whiney ass and working to save the country should figure into it.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:07 PM (EgbCN)

119 Great link to the Sultan Kinish post, Rickl!
Seems extreme but it's the ugly truth.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2015 04:08 PM (NOIQH)

120 Instead, her kid was there, a 14 or 16 - hell if I
know kid. So being I was suddenly standing on the porch I said, "hey you
want a candy bar?" She said thanks. Now I'm back in my house, thinking,
that's the only thing they know me by.

Posted by: AoS Plagarist at July 04, 2015 03:47 PM (TzeLs)

That's funny.
I used to take my god-daughter's older sister, who was 4 at the time to university with me. She'd go when I had to drop off a paper, once I met with a marketing group, another time to buy books, one time we went to the anthropology lab and she saw the human skeleton, one time she was there for a meeting I chaired and played checkers with a professor in his office. Good experiences and yes she just finished a degree in education.
But one day, something bad was in the air. Her and I were disagreeing the entire day.

We were walking back to the car. She stopped and stood there defiantly. "You said you'd buy me Smarties!"
I retorted back. "No, you've been unpleasant all day!"
Right back at me, "Well you've been mean! And I'm not moving!"
I grabbed her by the arm and started pulling her. "I'll be damned."
She starts screaming.

I suddenly realized that I'm a white guy in my early 20's with a beard who looks kind of creepy dragging along a little 4 year old black girl who is screaming "STOP! STOP! LET ME GO! LET ME GO!" on a crowded city street.
I immediately let go of her and told her "Okay, let's get some Smarties."

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:08 PM (AC0lD)

121 But seriously, fuck the GOP and Dems.

They both suck rancid donkey dicks.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:08 PM (kmtse)

122 >>A clever refutation of what I wrote.

The Rangers Suck.

How about that?

Posted by: Shit Hamilton Said at July 04, 2015 04:08 PM (/zVYG)

123 Okay, idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive. I think most people love this Country we call America, we just want the establishment and their control to burn.

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:09 PM (86JwB)

124 Love the X video! Here's another appropriate X video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEhts7g-4U

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:09 PM (2X7pN)

125 The troll should see that the DOI was not just a break-up letter.
It was a promise to destroy the the British Colonies and replace them with Independent States.

The Founders were broke what they had to replace it with smething better.

The Let It Burn crowd does not go that far. It just says stop trying to prop up this Empire that is pretending to be a Republic. Let it die and we will replace it with something better.

The founders tried to make it work out with England and when they say it was hopeless they declared independence.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:10 PM (MQEz6)

126 Alright, you jokers best have my back,

http://tinypic.com/r/2wc2rrn/8

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:51 PM (+QcGV)

Thanks, I'm back now!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:10 PM (ftVQq)

127
Oh really?

What magical thing will happen on January 20, 2017?

Yeah, maybe obama the terrorist will finally release his shanks from the federal government, but who will take over? And will that person Reverse all the damage obama did?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:10 PM (hh8hB)

128 And now back to my regularly scheduled drinking.

Be well, my precious fappers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 04, 2015 04:11 PM (6DhGo)

129 Heh Hrothgar.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:11 PM (kmtse)

130 113 I understand the sentiment only too well. A lot of vets especially feel that way, for obvious reasons.

Yet some here will not allow me to just sit by and not do something. My oath will not allow me.

My children and grandchildren will not allow me.

My lost friends will not allow me.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:04 PM (kmtse)
Yes, exactly. I took the oath as well and promises don't end, especially when the alternative is allowing the country to go up in flames because reclaiming the republic is inconvenient.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:11 PM (EgbCN)

131 See, this is what pisses me off.

This ass hat has his own Village.
With Union wages, and benefits.

Me?
Nope, still the Apprentice.

*Kicks a puppy*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 04:12 PM (VPLuQ)

132 were, be gone - and saw not say

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:12 PM (MQEz6)

133 "Wife beater patriotism" - bookworm's had enough of Marin's residents.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2015 04:12 PM (NOIQH)

134
I don't want to live with obamacare.

I don't want to live in a nation that allows men to have husbands.

I don't want to merely live with all the damage obama did on the promise that the nightmare is over and we'll pick up the pieces and make the best of it.

I WANT THINGS THE WAY THEY WERE BEFORE obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:13 PM (hh8hB)

135 So are you down with the hypocrisy as well?
Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 03:54 PM (EgbCN)

Yes please, I would also like to be counted among those who are down with the hypocrisy.

You are free to enjoy your Gope jiz.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2015 04:13 PM (Dj0WE)

136 Alright, you jokers best have my back,

If that's the kind of thing I'm going to find every time I check the site, I'm going to be checking a lot more often.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 04, 2015 04:14 PM (UVfht)

137 123 Okay, idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive. I think most people love this Country we call America, we just want the establishment and their control to burn.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:09 PM (86JwB)

So letting the country burn by empowering the worst of the wort through deliberate inaction is showing your love for the country.

Seriously, can you please just focus on that. Can you possibly bring yourself to understand that is self defeating and a slap in the face to those who gave you your birthright?

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:14 PM (EgbCN)

138 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:11 PM (EgbCN)

You cannot stop the collapse of the Empire.

You can and should work to help guide the collapse and the recovery.

That is what Let It Burn is all about.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:15 PM (MQEz6)

139
I will settle for nothing less than a complete reversal on EVERYTHING obama has done.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:15 PM (hh8hB)

140 [sarc on] Well, I started my Fourth by reading Salon and Gawker, to bone up on all the reasons why America sucks. Thus prepared and ready to straighten out my knuckle-dragging relatives, I drove up to a small town in southern Wisconsin to watch the parade. Unfortunately, I was severely triggered by the shocking lack of diversity in the people I saw there, so I had to return home to my vibrant urban neighborhood to seek a safe space to recover. What a let-down. [sarc off]

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2015 04:17 PM (mk9aG)

141 139

I will settle for nothing less than a complete reversal on EVERYTHING obama has done.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:15 PM (hh8hB)

Fortunately, Presidential Powers have been enhanced the last 6+ years.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:17 PM (AC0lD)

142 You really don't get it. Our birthright is being stolen from us.

You are the defeatist.

I'm out.

Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:17 PM (86JwB)

143
Heh Hrothgar.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:11 PM (kmtse)

This might be a good 4th after all!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:18 PM (ftVQq)

144
btw, I'm all for "normalizing relations with Cuba."

By that I mean going back to treating Cuba with contempt and disdain.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:18 PM (hh8hB)

145 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:14 PM (EgbCN)

So, what's your solution?

And I actually do have something I'm working on. Really. Seriously. I think it could help turn the tide. But if it doesn't, I'll move on to Plan B, then C.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:19 PM (AC0lD)

146 Alright, you jokers best have my back,

If that's the kind of thing I'm going to find every time I check the site, I'm going to be checking a lot more often.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 04, 2015 04:14 PM (UVfht)

The HQ for all seasons!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:19 PM (ftVQq)

147
So, what's your solution?

Why, to continue to support Republicans!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:20 PM (hh8hB)

148
"The Let It Burn crowd does not go that far. It just says stop trying to prop up this Empire that is pretending to be a Republic. Let it die and we will replace it with something better.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:10 PM (MQEz6)"

There it is, YOU are going to replace the stuff of Jefferson, Madison and Washington with something better. Don't you think that's a bit egomaniacal?
Again, why celebrate the efforts of these great men when you want to replace what they did with what you think is something better.
If you are the mental superior of James Madison what are you doing wasting your precious moments on the rantings here? Am I seriously expected to believe that DrewM can do better than Jefferson?

Let it burn, to replace the republic is a pipedream born of frustration and all it's done is enable the worst of the worst. Yet here you are, thinking you ought to rule the rubble...

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

149 Local small airport must be having an air show of sorts. Heard some WWII airplanes fly by (didn't see them but I'm sure I'm right). Saw some Navy Trainers last year flying in formation. The sound of freedom makes one happy on the 4th.

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (1SHv1)

150 So, what's your solution?

Why, to continue to support Republicans!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:20 PM (hh8hB)
There's no Establishment like the GOP Establishment!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:22 PM (ftVQq)

151 DrewM still sucks (seriously guy, change the nick. You won't be taken seriously otherwise while here. We get you have a bone of contention with DrewM. You just look childish),

It's going to burn to some extent. How much, who knows.

Things will get worse before it gets better. I really don't believe that the ballot box is going to change things. As far as protests, it warmed my cold heart to see bikers and vets in Brooklyn bitch-slapping punk assed flag burners that want to DISARM COPS, the same cops that they went crying to so they wouldn't get mud holes stomped in their asses.

It's not a matter of letting shit burn. It's going to burn regardless. Now, it's a matter of mitigating the damage to you and yours...and maybe, hammer a clue in some of these kids that have the most to lose, which does include my own daughters.

Social media is just another battlefield. And right now, it's a pretty damn important battlefield, since these assholes are using it to sway public opinion (at least the opinions of those that get their info from the MSM).

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:24 PM (kmtse)

152 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

I'd suggest you take the 5:00 PM meds early today!

Just a thought.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:24 PM (ftVQq)

153
Al Franken is a reelected United States senator.

We have a terrorist in the White House running the federal government.

The republic has already been torched.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (hh8hB)

154 145 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:14 PM (EgbCN)

So, what's your solution?

And I actually do have something I'm working on. Really. Seriously. I think it could help turn the tide. But if it doesn't, I'll move on to Plan B, then C.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:19 PM (AC0lD)

The solution is to get in the game and push back, the use the system that has been used against us in the way it was intended to be used. Don't like the GOP? Who does? It's full of politicians and politicians are garbage. We can however reform it and use it as a tool to pursue conservative principles rather than just turning it all over to the democrats and hope they do a quick job of destroying the country so we can replace it with the pipe dreams of the ace of spades braintrust.
We have the best system in the world, the reason why the other side is using it against us is they have out organized, out spent and out worked us. The solution to that problem isn't just letting them run us into the ground, it;s fighting back.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (EgbCN)

155 I'm listening to the mp3 now.

I've said this before. Damn, this "Declaration of Independence" is beautiful.

It should be taught in schools.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:26 PM (AC0lD)

156 Al Franken is a reelected United States senator.

We have a reelected terrorist in the White House running the federal government.

The republic has already been torched.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (hh8hB)
Accuracy in the little things!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:26 PM (ftVQq)

157 DOWN WITH THE HYPOCRISAH!*

*except when we say down, we mean up.

Posted by: DrewM Controls My Thoughts at July 04, 2015 04:27 PM (Dj0WE)

158 The republic has reached a tipping point.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at July 04, 2015 04:28 PM (W5DcG)

159 We can however reform it and use it as a tool to
pursue conservative principles rather than just turning it all over to
the democrats and hope they do a quick job of destroying the country so
we can replace it with the pipe dreams of the ace of spades braintrust.

We have the best system in the world, the reason why the other side
is using it against us is they have out organized, out spent and out
worked us. The solution to that problem isn't just letting them run us
into the ground, it;s fighting back.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (EgbCN)

No specifics.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:28 PM (AC0lD)

160 Let's see. Lying, deceitful politicians. Lying, deceitful press. A Supreme Court that disregards our founding documents. $18 trillion dollars in debt. Porous border allowing criminal aliens who willfully exploit our entitlement state. And no end in sight.

Let's hear your prescription for taking back the country.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:28 PM (2X7pN)

161 I think we need to stop looking for a white knight. There is no political solution. Each individual is going to have to discover the truth for himself. Each person must decide for himself that liberty is preferable to third rate free shit. If and when that happens, we can get our country back but no individual will be able to accomplish it. Each individual can influence it.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:29 PM (IfHgw)

162
Bullshit.

Let it burn implies giving up, to me.

Will NOT HAPPEN.

Repairing the damage done by the left will require an effort at the basic level--in your schools, your town meetings and government to install people who will give more than lip service to principles.

Has to start at this basic level, all flows from that.

Local , municipal, state, federal.

Look at it as our own long march through the institutions.

Gonna take time and there will be heartbreak along the way but so be it.

So if you'd prefer to quit, well, that's your decision, and I'll bear you no ill will for it.

But I'd ask you please step aside, I got work to do.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2015 04:30 PM (jeCnD)

163 Reform the GOP? That worked out well with the Tea Party, right?

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:30 PM (2X7pN)

164 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

Idiotic drivel.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:31 PM (MQEz6)

165 Public recitations of The Declaration of Independence on the 4th used to be common, as were parades, picnics, etc.

But that's, like, old school.

Posted by: mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2015 04:31 PM (9mTYi)

166
The best system??

Congress no longer represents their constituents. The Court no longer makes ruling based on Constitutionality. And the Executive branch behaves like a monarch lording over the other 2 branches.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:31 PM (hh8hB)

167 Take me seriously, please.

Posted by: DrewM turned me into a newt at July 04, 2015 04:32 PM (RWGcK)

168 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (EgbCN)

You think you can work within the system to reform it.

I see.

Have fun.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:32 PM (MQEz6)

169 "Let's hear your prescription for taking back the country."

CFL's
Solar Panels
High Speed Rail
Project Head Start
Police Free Zones
Unrestricted Immigration.
Free Speech Zones
Eliminating Micro-Aggressions.
$22.57 National Minimum Wage

Posted by: Spitball, the trained clapping Seal at July 04, 2015 04:32 PM (VPLuQ)

170 There it is, YOU are going to replace the stuff of Jefferson, Madison and Washington with something better. Don't you think that's a bit egomaniacal? Again, why celebrate the efforts of these great men when you want to replace what they did with what you think is something better. If you are the mental superior of James Madison what are you doing wasting your precious moments on the rantings here? Am I seriously expected to believe that DrewM can do better than Jefferson? Let it burn, to replace the republic is a pipedream born of frustration and all it's done is enable the worst of the worst. Yet here you are, thinking you ought to rule the rubble...
Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

You really are incredibly fucking stupid. You clueless empty headed fuckwit. You braindead slackjawed drooling GOP apologist dicklicker. Who wants to replace what Jefferson, Madison and Washington did? Not us. We want it restored. We want it saved. But a lot realize that it has to burn first otherwise most people won't realize that its already taken away. They'll be like you. So stupid that they think its still around because the shit head politicians that you want to suck off pay it lip service.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 04:33 PM (zt+N6)

171 As of now, I am never voting again as there is no point when you just get stabbed in the back, front, and sides no matter what happens.

However, I am starting to think it might be fun to vote for Trump just because he seems to piss off all the frauds cowards and liberals, but I repeat myself, in both parties.

How the fuck does a guy get deported multiple times, comes back, kills a young woman, and yet the media and republican candidates and Nascar are mad at Trump, but don't say a word about the sanctuary city policies and the illegal criminals!?

Through the motherfucking looking glass.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at July 04, 2015 04:33 PM (COpZ4)

172 There's no Establishment like the GOP Establishment!

-
You can say that again! It stands for everything and nothing. It both sucks and blows.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:34 PM (LImiJ)

173 151
""Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:24 PM (kmtse) DrewM still sucks (seriously guy, change the nick. You won't be taken seriously otherwise while here. We get you have a bone of contention with DrewM. You just look childish), ""

My new niok better?

""It's going to burn to some extent. How much, who knows. ""

Its burning already. Now what? Sit back and let a confederacy of pajama boys and race hustlers rule you into poverty or stand up for what we are supposed to be?

"I really don't believe that the ballot box is going to change things."

Not alone but as a part of voting for the most conservative, viable candidate and then actually working to keep them accountable to the principles that they were sent to pursue then we can turn this around.

"As far as protests, it warmed my cold heart to see bikers and vets in Brooklyn bitch-slapping punk assed flag burners that want to DISARM COPS, the same cops that they went crying to so they wouldn't get mud holes stomped in their asses. ""

It's time for more of that as well. I'm seriously in. I swear I'm up for that.

""Social media is just another battlefield. And right now, it's a pretty damn important battlefield, since these assholes are using it to sway public opinion ""

You bet it is, and the opposition uses it to pus relentlessly for what they want and we use it to vacillate, attack each other and get rolled by Moby's who advocate sitting elections out because letting it burn will bring great things or something...

Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:35 PM (EgbCN)

174
1. Sitting back and waiting for Good Things to come along is not a plan.

2. Continuing to support Republicans only makes things worse.

So???

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:35 PM (hh8hB)

175 I see we are in a circular firing squad again. Frustration will do that I guess. Aim low

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2015 04:36 PM (/tNwW)

176 "You can say that again! It stands for everything and nothing. It both sucks and blows."

I believe that what you are looking for is:

How is the GOP like a floor fan?

When you stand in front of it, it blows.
When you stand behind it, it sucks.
And when you stand beside it, it doesn't do a damn thing for you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 04:36 PM (VPLuQ)

177 *whatever the pissant Russian troll says*

What I hear: "blah, blah, blah"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 04, 2015 04:37 PM (eEb+d)

178 165 Public recitations of The Declaration of Independence on the 4th used to be common, as were parades, picnics, etc.

But that's, like, old school.

Posted by: mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2015 04:31 PM (9mTYi)

Nowadays, that's a good way to get DHS to put you on a list of domestic terrorists. I think DHS views Declaration of Independence readers even more suspiciously than Constitution-lovers.

Either way, there's no room in the American Socialist Superstate for anyone who doesn't submit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (MYSVz)

179
So you defend the Constitution by abandoning it to be annihilated?
Tht's why I never understood the LIB philosophy

Posted by: MAx at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (YJeFl)

180 it just takes one comment to sink a good thread

Posted by: titantic at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (iyU01)

181 There it is, YOU are going to replace the stuff of Jefferson, Madison and Washington with something better. Don't you think that's a bit egomaniacal?
Again, why celebrate the efforts of these great men when you want to replace what they did with what you think is something better.
If you are the mental superior of James Madison what are you doing wasting your precious moments on the rantings here? Am I seriously expected to believe that DrewM can do better than Jefferson?

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

Madison, Jefferson et al through much debate and consternation envisioned these United States of America.

Too bad it has been neutered by the whims of some "nine" or "five" or more accurately "one" better that happens to wear a robe.

That is the only shortcoming that our forefathers had. They thought those appointed to the Supreme Court would have some virtue.

They are now the arbiters of law. No consent of the governed nor recourse for the governed.

Posted by: Golfman at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (48QDY)

182 The Let It Burn plan involves much hard work to shore up vital institutions, organize networks of people and groups of people, and planning on how to survive the collapse and begin the recovery.

By the way, not plans to hold out in caves or other stupid shit like that, but plans to create a system within the system that is ready for things when the time comes.

It is not giving up.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (MQEz6)

183 A woman selflessly posts pictures of her boobs for us to enjoy and you guys want to fight about politics?

The terrorists have won.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2015 04:39 PM (g1DWB)

184 just got back from various festivities with the 2yo. bushed.

went to the parade. politicians throwing candy on the street and mumbling Happy Fourth. Such a metaphor.

everybody was saying Happy Fourth. I got annoyed and just said Independence Day back. nobody changed anything though.

one extremely touching part was this

we were sitting just over a rise from a rather large family, with the parade coming towards us, them first. ALL of the veterans steered their cars off to that side and more than a few got out to shake hands with someone there. or to stop and salute. a Fire chief brought out flowers.

after the crowds had cleared a bit we saw the sign WWII VETERAN.

and a little old lady in a wheelchair. she is 96 today.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 04, 2015 04:39 PM (Cq0oW)

185 Health insurance companies around the country are seeking rate increases of 20 percent to 40 percent or more, saying their new customers under the Affordable Care Act turned out to be sicker than expected.

And anyone who thought any different was and is a fuckin idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2015 04:39 PM (/tNwW)

186 DrewM is the Christ and the Anti-Christ, the Alpha and the Omega, the Ying and the Yang, the Beginning and the End.

All hail DrewM.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:40 PM (LImiJ)

187 Jackstraw,

No shit.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:41 PM (kmtse)

188 And on another note (because I hate these circular firing squads) "Christian" Obama leaves out any mention of God in his 4th of july address. Either because he doesn't believe in God, or because the god he believes in is not interested in blessing America:

http://tinyurl.com/p2zfnht

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (OSs/l)

189 No specifics.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:28 PM (AC0lD)

Work is a start, the cornerstone of conservatism is WORK which seems to be something that has become a dirty word. I've watched the opposition run circles around us in the get out the vote effort while people kick back and hope for the whole thing to burn.

Specifics:, you get involved, you push for what you want, you contribute time and obey to reward what you want and withhold it to punish what you oppose, You write letters, make phone calls, corner representatives and demand that they do what we sent them there to do, you become a pain in their ass when they screw up and a benefactor when they do well. Bottom line you make it politically profitable for a scumbag politician, and they all are, to do the right thing.
That involves work and organization... something the other side hasn't been afraid of doing and that;'s why they are running the show.

Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (EgbCN)

190
"The Let It Burn plan involves much hard work to shore up vital institutions"
So burn this but not burn that. And somehow against all odds and historical precedent we end up with national liberty.
And who decides what is and isn't a "vital institution"???

Posted by: MAx at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (YJeFl)

191 I WANT THINGS THE WAY THEY WERE BEFORE ~~obama~~ ~~Clinton~~ ~~Carter~~ ~~LBJ~~ FDR.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (zauWW)

192 A woman selflessly posts pictures of her boobs for us to enjoy and you guys want to fight about politics?
>>>

Wait I missed the LIB post? (Let it Boob)

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (1SHv1)

193 FenelonSpoke,

Loves ya, but why do you subject yourself to that torture?

I refuse to see or listen to that fuckstick.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (kmtse)

194 YOU are going to replace the stuff of Jefferson, Madison and Washington with something better.

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Jefferson, Madison, and Washington completely overlooked diversity and fairness for the children.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:44 PM (LImiJ)

195 Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (EgbCN)

You are right.

If we do all that the GOP will take the House and Senate and then we can start to fight Obama and his minions.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:44 PM (MQEz6)

196 A woman selflessly posts pictures of her boobs for us to enjoy and you guys want to fight about politics?

The terrorists have won.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2015 04:39 PM (g1DWB)

^^^^^^

THIS!

It's like I don't even know ~~you guys~~ y'all!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:45 PM (ftVQq)

197 Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (kmtse)

I didm' exactly submit myself to him. I just submitted myself to the article at "Gateway Pundit" :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:45 PM (OSs/l)

198
190
"The Let It Burn plan involves much hard work to shore up vital institutions"
So burn this but not burn that. And somehow against all odds and historical precedent we end up with national liberty.
And who decides what is and isn't a "vital institution"???
Posted by: MAx at July 04, 2015 04:43 PM (YJeFl)

People, using their frontal lobes, will do that.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:46 PM (MQEz6)

199 A woman selflessly posts pictures of her boobs for us to enjoy and you guys want to fight about politics?

The terrorists have won.

Posted by: JackStraw

At least somebody gets it. Any 'ettes want to get us back on track? SMFH?

Posted by: Chi at July 04, 2015 04:46 PM (QGrhy)

200 I wonder what the Founding Fathers sounded like.

Would their speech still be "British" or would they have already branched off into an American dialect ?

Posted by: seamrog at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (iyU01)

201 Look at it as our own long march through the institutions.

Gonna take time and there will be heartbreak along the way but so be it.

So if you'd prefer to quit, well, that's your decision, and I'll bear you no ill will for it.

But I'd ask you please step aside, I got work to do.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2015 04:30 PM (jeCnD)

Thank you. Working on it.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (AC0lD)

202 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (OSs/l)

Deep breaths, FS, deep breaths!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (ftVQq)

203 USDA says "don't grill meat this Independence Day. Grill pineapple. Let me take a wild guess that unless he's a vegetarian or vegan the head of the USDA is not having a meatless 4th and neither is the Obama family..

Some animals are more equal than others

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (OSs/l)

204 What boob pics?

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (MQEz6)

205 Just got here. Listened to the reading of the Declaration of Independence. Wow. Those men were brave beyond my understanding.

Posted by: tbodie at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (fcqmr)

206 My boobehs aren't for public consumption, Chi.

You on the other hand...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:48 PM (kmtse)

207 Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2015 04:30 PM (jeCnD)

I think we just were treated to IG's Independence Day Post!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:48 PM (ftVQq)

208 And now off to listen to the Stars and Stripes forever because it's not the fourth without Sousa.
Posted by: Lea at July 04, 2015 03:11 PM (vmMMi)
---
F'no it's not.

Posted by: Dinesh D'souza at July 04, 2015 04:48 PM (mG3Qj)

209 Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 04:33 PM (zt+N6)
"You really are incredibly fucking stupid. You clueless empty headed fuckwit. You braindead slackjawed drooling GOP apologist dicklicker. "
LOL, don't sugar coat it... or even try to rebut it.

"Who wants to replace what Jefferson, Madison and Washington did? "

Did you read what I was replying to?

"Not us. We want it restored."

So burning something down and starting from scratch is a good way to restore it. I have this split window coupe that I've been going about restoring the entirely wrong way. I need new kitchen cabinets, should I burn my house down?

No, you don't "restore" anything by burning it down and that is exactly what you are doing when you are empowering the socialists like Obama to sodomize this country.

"We want it saved. But a lot realize that it has to burn first otherwise most people won't realize that its already taken away."

Brilliant. So make a big mess and point to it to say "I told you so". Why not lead by example? Why not do a good job? Why not do something crazy like not burn things down to restore them? Because that wont stroke your own ego and let you say I told you so as if they would pay attention then... Sorry, this is about the country, not you or me.

Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:49 PM (EgbCN)

210 I'll just say 96. I'll say no more.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2015 04:49 PM (g1DWB)

211 There is a reason the left fears us more than any other group. That should tell you all you need to know about who they are and give you reason to push back. They have abandoned freedom, are afraid of it should a member think on their own.

Posted by: tinfoilbaby at July 04, 2015 04:50 PM (H3SRF)

212 For those that are too fucked up to scroll up:

bebe's boobs

http://tinypic.com/r/2wc2rrn/8

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (kmtse)

213 Some animals are more equal than others

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:47 PM (OSs/l)

I am sure that today they served green organic grass and tree bark soup at the WH as a gesture of solidarity!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (ftVQq)

214 I'm o.k. Hrothgar. I'm about to go to picnic where we will grill meat, and I just appreciated watching the 50 minute video from the "Legal Insurrection" site on the July 4, 1976 raid in Entebbe which really was a great military feat and i didn't know all the details.

And thanks as always for your witness above, Irongrandpa

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (OSs/l)

215 Still awaiting your solution. Platitudes don't count!

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:52 PM (2X7pN)

216 Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:49 PM (EgbCN)

Let It Burn does not mean Make It Burn.

If collapse is inevitable, then the only thing you can do is prepare for it and be ready to recover from it.

Do you understand?

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (MQEz6)

217 Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (kmtse)

Bless your heart!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (ftVQq)

218 212
For those that are too fucked up to scroll up:

bebe's boobs

http://tinypic.com/r/2wc2rrn/8

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (kmtse)

Thanks so much. I was raised in Canada and didn't really know how to ask her for a picture.
And have a great holiday SMFH!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (AC0lD)

219 Are you gonna get me out if trouble if it pisses Ace off?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 03:35 PM (+QcGV)

Of course.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (cv6Ng)

220
I have to say, though, I like Drewm Sucks a lot more than Drewm.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (hh8hB)

221 You too, Infidel!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:54 PM (kmtse)

222 Jet Blue is first Airline to start regularly scheduled flights to commie Cuba and they are celebrating it like they won the World Series. Jet Blue is owned by far left wingers. Just remember that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2015 04:54 PM (/tNwW)

223 For those that are too fucked up to scroll up:

I know I speak for the all the Morons when I say, Bless you bebe.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 04, 2015 04:55 PM (eEb+d)

224 On the pretty good chance that I will get ragged on, as much as I disagree with Drew on a lot of things, he is kinda right about this. We bitch and moan to much and work to get out people, and by our people, I don't just mean Republicans but hard core conservatives, but don't work enough to get them elected.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2015 04:56 PM (/tNwW)

225 182
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:38 PM (MQEz6) The Let It Burn plan involves much hard work to shore up vital institutions, organize networks of people and groups of people, and planning on how to survive the collapse and begin the recovery.

LOL! So where has all this been codified? Survive the collapse? You se, when it all collapse what makes you think the world is going to come running to the people who helped it collapse to rebuild it? If you aren't being heard now, what makes you think you will be put in charge then? Can't you see that this is a pipedream worthy of a 13 year old boy in a treehouse? The world isn't going to go through some "Red Dawn" phase and then come back and put you in charge of the rubble. Everywhere else that there has been "collapse" they have gone over to communism, that is what you will be helping.

"It is not giving up."

Let it burn = giving up.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 04:57 PM (EgbCN)

226 Are you gonna get me out if trouble if it pisses Ace off?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy

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Have I ever lied to you?

- John Boehner

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 04, 2015 04:57 PM (EewWx)

227 No he doesn't, eman! That's the problem! Notice that he didn't reply to my remark about the Tea Party when he "so originally" suggested a reform of the GOP. It's like it never happened! How many do overs do you get?

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:57 PM (2X7pN)

228 We got plenty of them elected in 2010 and 2014, and we got it up the ass as a result. We worked hard for idiot Bush too, and look where that got us.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at July 04, 2015 04:58 PM (COpZ4)

229 206 My boobehs aren't for public consumption, Chi.

You on the other hand...

Posted by: SMFH

You want me to post pics of my boobs? I really don't think the 'Rons would appreciate that.

Posted by: Chi at July 04, 2015 04:58 PM (QGrhy)

230 219 Of course.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (cv6Ng

Enjoy. Gotta keep the Marine Corps' transportation wing happy!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 04, 2015 04:59 PM (+QcGV)

231 Fine, let's hear your plan. Spell it out with details. Go!

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 04:59 PM (2X7pN)

232 "If collapse is inevitable, then the only thing you can do is prepare for it and be ready to recover from it.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 04:53 PM (MQEz6)"

It isn't, we can save this and we must. We absolutely must. To that I pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred honor as well.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:01 PM (EgbCN)

233 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 04:57 PM (EgbCN)

you are confused.

Collapse means collapse of the Federal Empire. It does not necessarily mean a collapse of cvilization.

In fact the work we would be doing is to guide the collapse of the Empire to limit the extent of chaos and turmoil.

It has nothing to do my personal ambition. Your understanding and analysis is faulty.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:02 PM (MQEz6)

234 Open up the hood and fix it.

Posted by: Ross Perot at July 04, 2015 05:03 PM (W5DcG)

235 Stupid Tory thinks he's actually a Patriot.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2015 05:04 PM (zt+N6)

236 The last thread has returned form its orbit around uranus.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2015 05:05 PM (VPLuQ)

237 *eyes Chi*

Let me rephrase that, Mr. WannaBeFunny.

My boobs are for your consumption only.

Comprend�?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 05:05 PM (kmtse)

238 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:01 PM (EgbCN)

Well, now you should see our two different starting points.

You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:05 PM (MQEz6)

239 Great more platitudes. You're a hell of a contrarian.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:05 PM (2X7pN)

240 For those that are too fucked up to scroll up:

bebe's boobs

http://tinypic.com/r/2wc2rrn/8

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 04, 2015 04:51 PM (kmtse)

Dang!! Those are nice.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2015 05:06 PM (MYSVz)

241 "233
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:02 PM (MQEz6) Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 04:57 PM (EgbCN)

you are confused.

Collapse means collapse of the Federal Empire. It does not necessarily mean a collapse of cvilization."

I'm sure they will go quietly and politely and not take everything down that they can consume with them. Look, you can reduce the size of something from the inside, by making them abide by the laws they swore to abide by and rarely do.

"It has nothing to do my personal ambition. Your understanding and analysis is faulty."

I asked you where all this was codified. Where is the a to b to c let it burn plan? Otherwise you are just helping the socialists, democrats, pajama-boys and special little snowflakes make a mess that it's doubtful can ever be cleaned up.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:08 PM (EgbCN)

242 You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.

If he can't understand this point, then there's no going forward without specifics to circumvent the system.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:08 PM (2X7pN)

243 Gotta go, it's Part 2 of the celebrations coming up.

Just remember, you must NEVER be ashamed of this country. Any shame lies directly on the heads of those who would harm her.

We owe the Founding Fathers an incredible debt for what they gave us, keeping the country is the best repayment we can offer.

By the effort of free men will this land prosper and grow.

Nothing else will suffice.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2015 05:09 PM (jeCnD)

244 The best ( I buy them 50 at a time and give them away) pocket Constitutions around is done by Michael Connelly, in which he gives each Article and then a commentary of that Article. I keep one on me at most times. When some jackass tries to tell me what the Constitution says about 'x', I say well, let's see what it says. Then I pull out my pocket Constitution. No argument, just facts. I do the same with my Koran. Shocks some folk because though I look like a Constitution-toter, nobody pegs me for a Koran-slinger. Being an crusty old Presbyterian what is a retired CPO. I just love the truth is all.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2015 05:09 PM (go5uR)

245 Open up the hood and fix it.

Posted by: Ross Perot>>>

WTF who put a Trebant engine in my Oldsmobile?

Posted by: Robinson at July 04, 2015 05:10 PM (1SHv1)

246 The best ( I buy them 50 at a time and give them away) pocket Constitutions around is done by Michael Connelly, in which he gives each Article and then a commentary of that Article. I keep one on me at most times. When some jackass tries to tell me what the Constitution says about 'x', I say well, let's see what it says. Then I pull out my pocket Constitution. No argument, just facts. I do the same with my Koran. Shocks some folk because though I look like a Constitution-toter, nobody pegs me for a Koran-slinger. Being an crusty old Presbyterian what is a retired CPO. I just love the truth is all.

I'm sure there's an equivalent app for a smartphone, right?

Right?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 04, 2015 05:13 PM (eEb+d)

247
""You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:05 PM (MQEz6)""

If I could for instance, show you how we could pay down our debt and get the overall debt ratio to around 10-15% of GDP would that make any difference?
If you can even conceive of a plan to save the republic, isn't it morally incumbent on you to insist and work for that plan to come to fruition? Isn't that the patriotic thing to do? Let alone the efficient and reasonable thing to do? Rather than allow collapse?

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:13 PM (EgbCN)

248 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:08 PM (EgbCN)

There is no multi-step Plan.

People can and should do this on their own.

Get together and discuss what you can do and let it grow organically.

Central planning is for Communists.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:14 PM (MQEz6)

249 Thanks Ace, and BBD.

Posted by: Gmac- 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 04, 2015 05:14 PM (4CRfK)

250 242 You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.

And how does letting it burn create any kind of "system within a system," especially one that is representative of the the people who it presumes to govern?

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:15 PM (EgbCN)

251 There is no multi-step Plan.

People can and should do this on their own.

Get together and discuss what you can do and let it grow organically.

Central planning is for Communists.

IIRC, many of the great ideas that surround the founding of this great country were born in bars.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 04, 2015 05:16 PM (eEb+d)

252 I'm sure they will go quietly and politely and not take everything down that they can consume with them. Look, you can reduce the size of something from the inside, by making them abide by the laws they swore to abide by and rarely do.

You've yet to articulate your plan! C'mon, A to B to C, just like you asked eman. Otherwise, you're a fcuking hypocrite!

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:16 PM (2X7pN)

253 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:13 PM (EgbCN)

Now you mention this?

Let's hear your plan.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:16 PM (MQEz6)

254
250 242 You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.

And how does letting it burn create any kind of "system within a system," especially one that is representative of the the people who it presumes to govern?
Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:15 PM (EgbCN)

You don't need the government to get things done.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:17 PM (MQEz6)

255 248 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:08 PM (EgbCN)

"There is no multi-step Plan. "

So much for a system within a system...

"People can and should do this on their own. "

Do What? Let it burn on their own? No, what people should do is unite and work to roll back what the opposition has gained by us not doing anything.
We really are in this fix because we have allowed ourselves to get into this fix. Working and pushing back is what wil get us out of it.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (EgbCN)

256 Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Carol at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (sj3Ax)

257 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (EgbCN)

Define "the opposition"

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (MQEz6)

258 Maybe opponents of gay "marriage" should agree on an alternative term for it. Something funny, I hope.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 04, 2015 05:21 PM (YFw5T)

259 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (EgbCN)

You seem to like centralized control and see government as the only legitimate weilder of power.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:21 PM (MQEz6)

260 Okay, I've asked as many times as I'm willing. You're an unserious @$$h@t.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:21 PM (2X7pN)

261 You seem to like centralized control and see government as the only legitimate weilder of power.

He just wants his uptwinkles.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:24 PM (2X7pN)

262 254
250 242 You still think you can use the system to fix the system and I do not. I think we need to create a new system within the system.

And how does letting it burn create any kind of "system within a system," especially one that is representative of the the people who it presumes to govern?
Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:15 PM (EgbCN)

You don't need the government to get things done.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:17 PM (MQEz6)

That seriously wasn't an answer to the question, much less a strategy or tactic or action.
Lets take a step back, what is this system within a system that you want to create by letting the republic burn going to do? Govern? Set laws? Coin currency? Defend territory?

Of course not. There is no plan, no code, "Let it burn" just a frustration borne bumper sticker which is incredibly destructive because it calls for inaction when we need to strap a set on and get in their faces.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:24 PM (EgbCN)

263
261 You seem to like centralized control and see government as the only legitimate weilder of power.

He just wants his uptwinkles.
Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:24 PM (2X7pN)

At best he is a poor soul unable to accept the truth, at worst a troll earning money for Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:26 PM (MQEz6)

264 257 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (EgbCN)

Define "the opposition"
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:19 PM (MQEz6)

Starting with the Democrats, accademia, the press, the entertainment industry, academia... All of which are firmly in control of the left. Now your solution to that is to abandon the political...

""261 You seem to like centralized control and see government as the only legitimate weilder of power. ""

Where did I write that?

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:26 PM (EgbCN)

265 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:24 PM (EgbCN)

You are unable to see.

Enough time has been used to change that.

Contact terminated.

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:28 PM (MQEz6)

266 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:26 PM (EgbCN)

You said "academia" twice. But that's OK, because you misspelled it once.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 04, 2015 05:28 PM (YFw5T)

267 Strapping on a set and getting in their faces! What a great plan! Why didn't you say so in the first place? So are you going to organize the Strapping On a Set movement? Don't you have to file some paperwork?

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:28 PM (2X7pN)

268
"At best he is a poor soul unable to accept the truth, at worst a troll earning money for Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:26 PM (MQEz6)"

Persuade me then! Show me the let it burn plan and how it will restore our Republic! Otherwise it's just a frustration borne bumper sticker which is incredibly destructive because it calls for inaction when we (patriotic conservatives) need to get involved.

Seriously, set aside the ad hominem and the atta-boys for a second and address that.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:29 PM (EgbCN)

269 265 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:24 PM (EgbCN)

You are unable to see.

Enough time has been used to change that.

Contact terminated.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2015 05:28 PM (MQEz6)

You can't back what you have said with any specifics or reasoned counterargument but you don't want to give up the feeling of belonging that comes from ridding the bandwagon...
Surrender flag goes up you mean. Which is more important to you than helping the country.

"Contact terminated."

Running up the white flag and shoving your fingers in your ears... Now that's a great way to honor the men of independence day! LOL!

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:33 PM (EgbCN)

270 I knew it! Not even one detail. Figures.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:33 PM (2X7pN)

271 266 Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:26 PM (EgbCN)

You said "academia" twice. But that's OK, because you misspelled it once.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 04, 2015 05:28 PM (YFw5T)

My apologies.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:33 PM (EgbCN)

272 What specifics have you provided?

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:36 PM (2X7pN)

273 270 I knew it! Not even one detail. Figures.
Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:33 PM (2X7pN)

189 Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (EgbCN)

Work is a start, the cornerstone of conservatism is WORK which seems to be something that has become a dirty word. I've watched the opposition run circles around us in the get out the vote effort while people kick back and hope for the whole thing to burn.

Specifics:, you get involved, you push for what you want, you contribute time and obey to reward what you want and withhold it to punish what you oppose, You write letters, make phone calls, corner representatives and demand that they do what we sent them there to do, you become a pain in their ass when they screw up and a benefactor when they do well. Bottom line you make it politically profitable for a scumbag politician, and they all are, to do the right thing.
That involves work and organization... something the other side hasn't been afraid of doing and that;'s why they are running the show.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:37 PM (EgbCN)

274 272 What specifics have you provided?
Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:36 PM (2X7pN)

9 Posted by: DrewMl sucks at July 04, 2015 04:42 PM (EgbCN)
Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:37 PM (EgbCN)

Work is a start, the cornerstone of conservatism is WORK which seems to be something that has become a dirty word. I've watched the opposition run circles around us in the get out the vote effort while people kick back and hope for the whole thing to burn.

Specifics:, you get involved, you push for what you want, you contribute time and obey to reward what you want and withhold it to punish what you oppose, You write letters, make phone calls, corner representatives and demand that they do what we sent them there to do, you become a pain in their ass when they screw up and a benefactor when they do well. Bottom line you make it politically profitable for a scumbag politician, and they all are, to do the right thing.
That involves work and organization... something the other side hasn't been afraid of doing and that;'s why they are running the show.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:38 PM (EgbCN)

275 I worked for the Tea Party candidates! I'm lucky to still have a job because of it. I can't be too careful with what I say around coworkers. I doubt being unemployed is the best solution to fighting for the cause.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:42 PM (2X7pN)

276 To those who still love this country enough to get out and help save it rather than sell it out for a few digital pats on the back from an website that has taken a seriously wrong turn: Happy Independence day.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:43 PM (EgbCN)

277 275 I doubt being unemployed is the best solution to fighting for the cause.
Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:42 PM (2X7p

Sorry to hear that, but people died for our freedom. If you are afraid to work toward saving the republic because you might lose your job you are already being controlled by the left.
Besides, there are laws that prevent you from being discriminated against and it sounds like they deserve a lawsuit.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:47 PM (EgbCN)

278 Way to flounce! Congratulations on wasting the maximum amount of pixels.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:47 PM (2X7pN)

279 278 Way to flounce! Congratulations on wasting the maximum amount of pixels.
Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 05:47 PM (2X7pN)

Sugarcoating: "Stop with the damn excuses for sitting in the couch, people have been killed, lost liberty and lived life in agony so you could live in the freest, most prosperous country in human history, The very least you can do is not sit back and watch while your birthright is utterly destroyed by a bunch of pajama-boys because you are scared of how it will look at work. " probably was a waste of pixels. I probably should have just advised you not to be such a coward.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 05:54 PM (EgbCN)

280 As I said, I worked for Tea Party candidates. That was my effort to try and reform the GOP.

I was actually anticipating your calling me a coward. I need my job. Maybe you don't. My guess is that you're a keyboard commando who's imbibed too much during the holiday festivities. Enjoy your hangover.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 06:02 PM (2X7pN)

281 at the risk of alienating some commenters i really like.
I agree with DrewM except His theft of DrewM's name.
that's a bad conduit for friendly idea sharing.

We can however reform it and use it as a tool to
pursue conservative principles rather than just turning it all over to
the democrats and hope they do a quick job of destroying the country so
we can replace it with the pipe dreams of the ace of spades braintrust.

We have the best system in the world, the reason why the other side
is using it against us is they have out organized, out spent and out
worked us. The solution to that problem isn't just letting them run us
into the ground, it;s fighting back.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 04, 2015 04:25 PM (EgbCN)

No specifics.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 04, 2015 04:28 PM (AC0lD)

IronGrampa has a few ideas.
we need more tho, we need to Really Organise and quit Paying them to fuck with us.

They are earning their livings by us paying for their wares.

we need to harass advertizers as much as they do.
ban products as much as they do. Start defunding their political strength.
my2cents

Posted by: willow at July 04, 2015 06:03 PM (nqBYe)

282 i will admit to being a coward about allowing the burn if there is any chance to stop it.
(Idon'tknowifthereis)
i have children and now grandchildren. what will happen to them, we cannot run, or leave, so

we have no strength alone. we have strength together an organising.
just.like.they.did.

Posted by: willow at July 04, 2015 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

283 and i can't fkn believe i am typing at a dead thread again!
fk

Posted by: willow at July 04, 2015 06:06 PM (nqBYe)

284 280 As I said, I worked for Tea Party candidates. That was my effort to try and reform the GOP. "

Congratulations, there is more to be done.

"I was actually anticipating your calling me a coward."

Just because you announced you were afraid to work for the betterment of the country because of how it may look to your liberal workmates? How could you have anticipated that there would be anything negative to be said about someone who is effectively being ruled from work?

"I need my job"

So they can tell you what to say and do. There are remedies for that.

"My guess is that you're a keyboard commando who's imbibed too much during the holiday festivities. "

Wrong. Do you believe that or did you just write that because you are afraid of your workmates?

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 06:07 PM (EgbCN)

285 "I agree with DrewM except His theft of DrewM's name.
that's a bad conduit for friendly idea sharing. "

Thanks. Disagreeing here isn't always greeted with friendliness though.

"we have no strength alone. we have strength together an organising.
just.like.they.did.

Posted by: willow at July 04, 2015 06:05 PM (nqBYe)"

Absolutely, and the future of your children has to be fought for. I'm with you.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 06:11 PM (EgbCN)

286 Are you for real?

Here are my EXACT words:

"I can't be too careful with what I say around coworkers."

I don't mention a Tea Party affiliation. I don't mention who I voted for. I don't tell them I usher at church. Why? Because the conversation inevitably goes into SSM or sexual orientation, aka I get written up for my views on these topics. I believe I've already worked toward the betterment of my country. The GOP took back the congress. And what did they do?

As far as your last remark, I believe you drank too much today already. My advice is to save some for tomorrow.

Posted by: hadoop at July 04, 2015 06:33 PM (2X7pN)

287 Posted by: hadoop at July 04, 2015 06:33 PM (2X7pN)

Here are my EXACT words:

"I can't be too careful with what I say around coworkers."

"Sorry General Washington, I can't fight because of my co-workers"...

"Sorry General Eisenhower, I can't climb up those cliffs because of what my co-workers would say"

See how impressive that is?

:I get written up for my views on these topics."

Find another line of work where you don't have to grovel to liberals and queers or sue them for discrimination and harrasment.

"I've already worked toward the betterment of my country. The GOP took back the congress. And what did they do?"

We need to keep at them, not just elect and forget.

"As far as your last remark, I believe you drank too much today already. "

I still haven't touched a drop. Just because you can't refute it doesn't mean I was drunk when I wrote it.

Posted by: DrewM sucks at July 04, 2015 10:45 PM (EgbCN)

288 WTF?

These aren't external threats you jackass! I can't believe you wrote that bs. America is doing it to itself. If that's what the majority wants, then they deserve to get it good and hard.

You've come here spouting platitudes, criticizing others who don't have a plan, while your plan is just as vague. You've offered no specifics. Show us how it's done hero!

I'll vote and support conservative candidates. Beyond that, good luck. Hold on to your bravado, you're going to need it.

Posted by: Hadoop at July 04, 2015 11:01 PM (2X7pN)

289 When the document is read, aloud or to ones self only then does the beauty of what it says come through.
It says basically, We are our own people and we are free.
Anyone who doesn't agree or wishes to change or ban does not wish that freedom to be allowed.

Posted by: obsidian at July 05, 2015 01:06 AM (ARK2U)

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