35% of Americans Would Expatriate

From Instapundit, this unsurprising datum.

As the Fourth of July weekend looms and Americans prep their grills and ready their fireworks, some citizens are packing their bags.
A recent online poll of more than 2,000 adults by TransferWise, a peer-to-peer money transfer service based in the United Kingdom, revealed that 35 percent of American-born residents and emigrants would consider leaving the United States to live in another country.
This percentage greatly increases for those age 18 to 34. More than half of millennials, a whopping 55 percent, said that they would consider leaving the U.S. for foreign shores. Among them, 43 percent of men and 38 percent of women noted that a higher salary would be a factor in their relocation decision.
While a high percentage of Americans would entertain the idea of expatriation, only .001 percent of the population actually renounced citizenship in 2014.

You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

Posted by: Ace at 03:28 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 01, 2015 03:29 PM (YPhIu)

2 Heh, and I just signed up for an online course this morning.

Posted by: JSchuler at July 01, 2015 03:29 PM (6i4P9)

3 Everyone read:

Greenfield: No Truce With the Left

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (YPhIu)

4 While a high percentage of Americans would entertain the idea of
expatriation, only .001 percent of the population actually renounced
citizenship in 2014.
***
Because the same ruling ideology is currently present in every 1st world country. You can't emigrate to escape the new leftist Aristocracy.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (78TbK)

5 To where, I don't know.

Posted by: NCKate at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (bP6xm)

6 Why go to a foreign country when our elites are bringing the foreign country to us?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (RD7QR)

7 ?Porque no soy esdudiante de las lenguas? Porque estoy Americano!

...!pone in su pipe y fumar!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (OQ9R7)

8 This is all people who think it would be fun to live in Paris or Rio for a year.

Posted by: Lea at July 01, 2015 03:31 PM (lIU4e)

9 Don't need to they speak English (or an approximation thereof) in Austrailia.

Posted by: Mad Cappers at July 01, 2015 03:31 PM (WUgIm)

10 5 To where, I don't know.
Posted by: NCKate at July 01, 2015 03:30 PM (bP6xm)

I'm looking at either Belize or the Azores.

Posted by: Iblis at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (9221z)

11 Among them, 43 percent of men and 38 percent of women noted that a higher salary would be a factor in their relocation decision.
***
So after Obama fundamentally changed America, the only thing keeping people here is that salaries are, for now, higher here?

WINNING!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (78TbK)

12 My kid is in China for the summer and he can't wait to come back home.

Posted by: NCKate at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (bP6xm)

13 I understand the impulse Ace, I have it myself, but here's a better question:

Go where? Where can we go where all of this left wing totalitarian garbage isn't already worse than it is here?

Unless a new continent boils up out of the Pacific, or interplanetary terraforming and travel is perfected, we're kinda stuck

Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (WvS3w)

14 If its millennials leaving I'm okay with it

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 01, 2015 03:33 PM (rPgr6)

15 I'd rather my state expatriate.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 01, 2015 03:33 PM (t06LC)

16
A lot of those respondents would do so because they've been taught about how racist/xenophobic/sexist the US is and how wonderful Europe is. Not to mention that their view of the world is some big Eat, Pray, Love adventure. Work in Rome, travel around India for a year getting wisdom from the little brown people, maybe build houses for a few months in rural Brazil, and then come home and be the center of attention at the next rooftop party in Brooklyn.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 01, 2015 03:33 PM (OiH3z)

17 Don't know about the French though.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:33 PM (48QDY)

18 I spent some time in Hong Kong for work last year and loved it. Would consider if I was single. Bonus, no need to learn a new language since people speak English.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

19 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

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Yeah, France is totes better.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (xN1DB)

20 I won't learn a fereign language because we have enough people in this country talking shit already.
Mebbe Eskimo.

Posted by: maddogg at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (xWW96)

21 My preference would be to send everyone who has turned this country toward third-world hellhole status to another country that better fits their philosophy.

For example, don't you think Choom Boy would far happier in Cuba, North Korea or Iran? He's got their schtick down to a "T," and would certainly be greeted by cheering throngs on arrival....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (P8YHq)

22 Unless a new continent boils up out of the Pacific, or interplanetary terraforming and travel is perfected, we're kinda stuck
Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (WvS3w)

An island did just pop up in the South Pacific a few months ago....

Posted by: Iblis at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (9221z)

23 where the heck would you go? as bad as the US has become, and getting worse daily, it's still the best place to live. at least we have SOME freedom here.

Posted by: texas t at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (Zmhrp)

24 Belize isn't looking so bad, as the 3rd world goes...

Posted by: Phil at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (39FGM)

25 After Ace gets Frog down, he can start of Greek.

Posted by: maddogg at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (xWW96)

26 studyin' 'em or learnin' to speak 'em?

Posted by: Dan Mesa/AZ at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (tnHQx)

27
I'd live in another country.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (iQIUe)

28 I need to learn Espanol just to navigate certain parts of my own little corner of town.

There's a big difference between wanting to learn a different language and being forced to learn it because newcomers don't respect their new homes enough to learn the common language.

Where's my right to live around the peaceful people who share my culture?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (eEb+d)

29 I'd do it in a heartbeat if I could afford to move to a tropical island

Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (SyKbw)

30 My kid has lived abroad in several countries teaching music in English since 2010. Full employment. Great benefits. Opportunities to travel.
As opposed to a crap minimum wage job here.
You decide which is better.

He's trying to talk the hubby into learning another language to come over to europe to work during his "retirement" years.

Really thinking about it.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (1M/xn)

31 Pretty cool Clorox commercial.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:35 PM (48QDY)

32 I think learning a foreign language is important so that I can partake of customer service at Home Depot.

Posted by: blaster at July 01, 2015 03:36 PM (2Ocf1)

33
Cathy Seipp's kid, Maia, is all grown up and living in Cracow. She seems to enjoy it.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 03:36 PM (iQIUe)

34 Where are you planning to go? Seriously. Bad as it is here it's much worse elsewhere.

I'm all for the John Galt option myself. We'll take, I dunno, Texas.

Bonus - I'm already here. You morons are welcome.

Posted by: scooter (not libby) at July 01, 2015 03:36 PM (WKeEA)

35
...be the center of attention at the next rooftop party in Brooklyn...

Someone told me rooftop parties in Syria and Iraq are pretty cool

Posted by: Che at July 01, 2015 03:37 PM (agXt1)

36 I might learn to speak Leftard, but it would be more fun to shoot them, and it is ecologically sound.

Posted by: maddogg at July 01, 2015 03:37 PM (xWW96)

37 Ich wunche nich hier verlassen. Mein Flagge bleibt hier und Ich auch!

Gehst du wenn du willst. Ich kampfe bis den Ende.

Dass is alles habe Ich.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 03:38 PM (U7H1n)

38 I've heard Lex Luthor has an island somewhere.

Posted by: Shoot Me at July 01, 2015 03:38 PM (EQcfE)

39 I loved the Southern part of Italy that I was stationed in long ago. Beautiful little sleepy med towns on the Ionian sea.

Move there? Very strict laws about passing exams in Italian, etc. and employment restrictions. You don't just pack up and start a life somewhere in other countries like people that cross our borders. They don't welcome you with freebies to keep you afloat.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2015 03:38 PM (oiNtH)

40 Every time I go overseas I find myself eager to return. I love America, but I'm not happy at all about the government in Washington.

Posted by: MTF at July 01, 2015 03:39 PM (LISuA)

41 I'm already eligible for dual citizenship. But this is my country.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:39 PM (GGCsk)

42 I think I'm eligible for dual Swiss citizenship, I should look into that...and renew my passport and have it handy. Because you never know...

Liz

Posted by: LizLem, In for Flynn! at July 01, 2015 03:39 PM (hvf9s)

43 >>>Heh, and I just signed up for an online course this morning.

which one?

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:39 PM (bhepQ)

44 If I could get a gig on a charter boat down in the Virgin Islands, I'd be there tomorrow

Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2015 03:39 PM (SyKbw)

45 38 I've heard Lex Luthor has an island somewhere.
Posted by: Shoot Me at July 01, 2015 03:38 PM (EQcfE)

Cobra Commander has one too.

Posted by: Iblis at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (9221z)

46 Tell ya what, we should incentivize people to move to Mexico and Guatemala. At least there would be a few natives more than 3 feet tall.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (GGCsk)

47 Fuck learning another language.

America, she is still worth fighting for.

Disclaimer: I still want to learn German.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (Vf5rR)

48 "Here's a better question: Why aren't you?"

Because I'm a middle aged adult and not given to hyperbole much?

Let's see - 35% would leave but only .001% left last year. That does not sound like a serious thought pattern, that sounds like people daydreaming about running away to live on a south seas island.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - If your right eyebrow isn't twitching you simply don't care. at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (hLRSq)

49 In Amerika, no need to study for foreign language speaking...soon foreign language speakers come and study you!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (Z9g7j)

50 There is a hugh group of ESL teaching millenials from all English speaking parts of the world living just about everywhere. They don't give it a second thought about not living in America or their home country. With the internet they feel very connected to everyone. Its an amazing mind set.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (1M/xn)

51 Heh.

I know someone who is actively studying French and seriously considering emigrating to Quebec.

Why? Because they are a physician, and after recent medicare cuts and a slightly more favorable *corporate tax rate* (unlike in the USA physicians may incorporate) they've found that they'll have equivalent pay in Canada.

The mind boggles. A US physician is going to move to socialized medicine QUEBEC (where the top combined Federal and Provinicial tax rates top out at 55%) to have it BETTER than in the USA.

Posted by: looking closely at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (ji45d)

52 as for which country is better:

Well, I sure would like to see if Switzerland would take me.

I know they're Neutrals, but then, so is America now too, eh?

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (bhepQ)

53 If you're single with no kids, being an expat is kind of fun. You don't feel as if you have to care about the country you're in or the country you've left. The bill doesn't come due for you and if you've negotiated a good job, you win.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (JIElb)

54 20 year veteran here. Never considered expatriating before 2009.

I consider it every week now. The problem is, why exchange one shithole for another?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 01, 2015 03:40 PM (xSCb6)

55 I'd do it in a heartbeat if I could afford to move to a tropical island

It doesn't take a lot of money but you will need batteries.

Posted by: The Professor at July 01, 2015 03:41 PM (8ZskC)

56 "Why aren't you?"

Ya ne znayu.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 03:41 PM (2i2aE)

57 >>>Let's see - 35% would leave but only .001% left last year. That does not sound like a serious thought pattern, that sounds like people daydreaming about running away to live on a south seas island.

gotcha.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:41 PM (bhepQ)

58 Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

Because I'm an American.

Posted by: Citizen X at July 01, 2015 03:41 PM (7ObY1)

59 Ace, what are you using to study languages?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 01, 2015 03:41 PM (OiH3z)

60 "You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?"

My answer is that I already speak the language of Alextopia, so further study is not required.

A better question is: "Why the fuck haven't we broken ground on Alextopia yet?"

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (72D6h)

61
I don't want to leave MY country. I want to force the fucking miscreants, traitors and other self-haters to get the hell out, or shut the fuck up.

This is MY country.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (St6BJ)

62 That is because America is ruled by the FSA now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (GpgJl)

63 Most of Yes votes are probably dopey leftists who think Europe is just dreamy cause of the "free" healthcare and think Americans are too dumb/racist/not big enough fans of the gays for their cosmopolitan sensibilities.

Posted by: brak at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (Tj+s6)

64 >>>I consider it every week now. The problem is, why exchange one shithole for another?

i'm hoping some country figures this out and makes themselves more inviting to expats.

one can dream.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (bhepQ)

65 Colorado Alex beat me to it @ 16.

Besides, this is the country my Father(s) served, fought, and died for.
I think I'll stay, thank you very much.

Posted by: gimpin' ain't easy at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (mJLf8)

66 Then again, with this damned Catholic caliphate demanding the covering of shoulders, maybe I will expatriate.

Posted by: Citizen X at July 01, 2015 03:43 PM (7ObY1)

67 All those yearsstudying esperanto are about to pay off!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 03:43 PM (/eTPT)

68 >>>Because I'm an American.

so you're living in America now, right? The one you remember?

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:43 PM (bhepQ)

69 I was complimented the other day on the quality of my Spanish by a stranger. Which is surprising because my Spanish is terrible.

Posted by: Samuel at July 01, 2015 03:43 PM (0Txm0)

70 By the way, the people in those studies are mostly expatriates or other people usually born in a foreign nation that renounce their citizenship due to tax reasons. That renouncement became more prominent after Obama rolled out the FATCA tax law.

So their allegiance to America has a price.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:43 PM (GGCsk)

71 Well, I sure would like to see if Switzerland would take me.

I know they're Neutrals, but then, so is America now too, eh?

Posted by: ace

Same here.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at July 01, 2015 03:44 PM (/Ho8c)

72 I've been everywhere man.....
Nice places to visit, etc etc.

Posted by: Roland THTG at July 01, 2015 03:44 PM (QM5S2)

73
No need to learn a new language, I'll just wait for the babblefish to come along or a tech representation thereof.

To where or not to where?, that is the question.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2015 03:45 PM (ODxAs)

74 38 I've heard Lex Luthor has an island somewhere.
--
What, just ONE?

Posted by: Donald Trump at July 01, 2015 03:45 PM (/eTPT)

75 I have been all over the world and the only place other than here I would even consider is Australia and that is marginal. But if things continue as they have been soon the US will be a failed 3rd world shit hole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 03:45 PM (GpgJl)

76 Mrs. Thrawl announced long ago that we would not move from PA. After seven years of the incompetent grifter I occasionally here her mutter about moving to TX.

Gotta work this one slowyly, can't push too hard.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at July 01, 2015 03:45 PM (JOG+K)

77 Even as shitty as they have made it here, what place is better?

Besides, it's only a matter of time before the Republic of Appalachia says see y'all later and signs a status of forces agreement with the Republic of Texas... When that happens, I expect to be in one or the other. But I won't have to worry about these East Coast/West Coast douchebags making fun of the "flyover states" any more, either way.

Posted by: Miller at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (qX32F)

78 Get your ass to Mars.

Posted by: Hauser to Quaid (it's complicated) at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (bhepQ)

79 If one of the states secedes, then I could see a lot of Americans moving to a freer state...

Posted by: scrood at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (3b9U4)

80
Meh. For $2.75 I can take the subway and emigrate to Brooklyn where Yiddish is still spoken.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (St6BJ)

81 Leave? Perish the thought. Leftist here have stoked fear about their opponents for so long that I don't want to disappoint them. Keep the eye on the reprisal

Posted by: derit at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (jT+gh)

82 Don't need to they speak English (or an approximation thereof) in Australia.

Yes. But there are downsides there too.
1. No gun rights.
2. Muslims are a protected class there, and they are raping the beautiful Aussie lasses seemingly without consequence.
3. Customer service is a foreign concept for some reason.
4. Leftardism is at least as strong there as it is here.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (jhqr1)

83 Dual Irish citizen here-just waiting for them to drive on the right.

Posted by: Little Boomer at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (ZuVs9)

84 Me? I can't wait to denounce my neighbors and do some wheelin' & dealin on the black market. The repression, the paranoia? It's going to be fucking Awesome

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (ZGlQ9)

85 I'm trying to learn Texan.

Ich liebe brisket mucho!

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (0xTsz)

86 78 Get your ass to Mars.
Posted by: Hauser to Quaid (it's complicated) at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (bhepQ)

Mars. Needs. Women.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (St6BJ)

87 All this and much more has been planned and executed by our domestic enemies for many years.

Now it is in full flower. The Un-Americaning of America.

Just a reminder that the Open Borders Initiative is a George Soros venture. Not sure if they're active in other countries.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (eEb+d)

88 >>But if things continue as they have been soon the US will be a failed 3rd world shit hole.

Some progressive areas are ahead of the curve.

Posted by: Detroit at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (O7MnT)

89 >>Well, I sure would like to see if Switzerland would take me.
<<

Yes, they have idyllic things like euthanasia. So they will have you as long as they believe your worth hanging around...

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (GGCsk)

90 Among them, 43 percent of men and 38 percent of women noted that a higher salary would be a factor in their relocation decision.

They know they'll have to pay taxes to both the U.S. and the country where they live, right?

No other developed nation--shit, only one undeveloped nation--demands a vig on income people who don't live in their country earn outside their country.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (ZKzrr)

91 "Why aren't you?"

Already done it.

Posted by: Feh at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (U5mnP)

92 Because I'm emigrating to the Republic of Texas.

Posted by: TallDave at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (74ZYB)

93 85 I'm trying to learn Texan.

Ich liebe brisket mucho!
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (0xTsz)

You need to move more towards Fredericksburg, nein?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (St6BJ)

94 the foreign country i would most like to emigrate to is Texas

Texas, do what you were born to do.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (bhepQ)

95 Not sure if they're active in other countries.

Pretty sure they or their fellow travelers are.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (/Ho8c)

96 No need to go to a foreign country. There are parts of NYC I believe probably don't speak a word of the English language.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (GGCsk)

97 I would like to emigrate to Detroit. I hear land is cheap there and the natives specialize in high quality crack and booze and don't have to work which I like very, very, very much.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (D0NZx)

98 I do know a foreign language.

However, it's Russian.

Posted by: Emigrant! at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (Mrl1e)

99 So millennials voted overwhelmingly for the idiot that would make the majority of them want to flee the country. What idiots.

May the Mexicans follow them wherever they go.

Posted by: Barack Obunghole at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (6qR/9)

100 Antartica is mostly unpopulated. Once we get some global warming, it'll be a paradise.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 03:49 PM (/eTPT)

101 >>the foreign country i would most like to emigrate to is Texas
<<

It's the Republic of Texas, thank you very much.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:49 PM (GGCsk)

102 96 No need to go to a foreign country. There are parts of NYC I believe probably don't speak a word of the English language.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (GGCsk)

#7 train to Roosevelt Avenue/Jackson Heights. Former Braves pitcher John Rocker had a few unkind words about that line.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:49 PM (St6BJ)

103 My millennial kids are certainly open to living and being citizens elsewhere.

Another reason I'd like to say "fuck you" to President Obama in person.

Posted by: Feh at July 01, 2015 03:49 PM (U5mnP)

104 Mrs. Thrawl announced long ago that we would not move from PA. After seven years of the incompetent grifter I occasionally here her mutter about moving to TX.
--
Has Wolfe been governor that long?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (/eTPT)

105 How are the Galapagos Islands this time of year?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (GGCsk)

106 85 I'm trying to learn Texan.

Ich liebe brisket mucho!
Posted by: Mama AJ
__________________________

Ah, the old New Braunfels/Blanco/Luckenbach dialect.

Posted by: Furious George at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (UlJ3l)

107 It's the Republic of Texas, thank you very much.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:49 PM (GGCsk)

Potato, tomato.

Posted by: SCOTUS at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (Vf5rR)

108 Please supportthe Brattleboro Vermontefforts todraft indictments against Ex-Presdent Bush and EX-Vice Presdent Cheney for crimes against our Constitution, Persons of color, and publish said indictments for consideration by other authorities and shall it be the law of the Town of Brattleboro that the Brattleboro Police, pursuant to the above-mentioned indictments, arrest and detain George Bush and Richard Cheney in Brattleboro if they are not duly impeached, and prosecute or extradite them to other authorities that may reasonably contend to prosecute them? Thank You....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (lNSdJ)

109 83

Hiubby is too, bought a place in SW Ireland to semi-retire to. Miles of fields and nary a hippie to be seen. And at least they put the SSM question to a referendum.

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (nSjrf)

110 I'll give you a hint:

It starts with "Fin" and ends with "Land".

Say it loud and there's music playing.

Say it soft and it's almost like praying.

Fin-land!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (NjiZL)

111 94 the foreign country i would most like to emigrate to is Texas

Texas, do what you were born to do.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:47 PM (bhepQ)

I've noticed an uptick in conversations about it at late. A lot of people who are not otherwise tuned in politically or tin foil wearers are getting pissed off.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (t06LC)

112 Besides, I am already living in a different country than the one I was born in. And if this country changed back to the one I was born in I would be a happy man.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (GpgJl)

113 Yes. But there are downsides there too. 1. No gun rights. 2. Muslims are a protected class there, and they are raping the beautiful Aussie lasses seemingly without consequence. 3. Customer service is a foreign concept for some reason. 4. Leftardism is at least as strong there as it is here.
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5. every damn thing there can kill you dead

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 03:51 PM (/eTPT)

114 79 If one of the states secedes, then I could see a lot of Americans moving to a freer state...
Posted by: scrood at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (3b9U4)

It's starting. A quiet rumble.

I have passed this same house on the way to work for years. They always fly the US Flag and the CBF.

Today there was just one.

Can't wait to see the patrons response at Daytona.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:51 PM (48QDY)

115 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

No lo entiendo.

To be fair, that might be the de facto official language in this country now.

Posted by: physics geek at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (MT22W)

116 96 No need to go to a foreign country. There are parts of NYC I believe probably don't speak a word of the English language.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:48 PM (GGCsk)

Or follow the Constitution

Posted by: Iblis at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (9221z)

117 5. every damn thing there can kill you dead

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 03:51 PM (/eTPT)

Keeps down the pajama boy populations.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (Vf5rR)

118 Cause I'm going to Austrailia or New Zeland

Posted by: Zakn at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (iMDvh)

119 Nowhere currently better than the US for moving to alone, but I wonder what a few hundred fully armed Americans could do if they went to an already populated island and just took over.

Posted by: Grimaldi at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (zfC8X)

120
My grandparents spoke very little English when they came to America. Mostly Polish, Yiddish and a smattering of Ukrainian and Lithuanian were spoken in their home.

When my dad came home from his first day at kindergarten my grandmother asked him (in Yiddish), "well, what did you learn at school?" to which he replied (also in Yiddish), "Ma I learned a foreign language; English!"

Long ago, and far away in a mythical place called the United States of America.

**wistful, sad sigh**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (St6BJ)

121
I could see me sitting outside at a small table sipping espresso with Ace in a beret joining me. We would stroll down the quays looking at the used book stalls. After it gets dark, we would head for a 120 franc 10 course dinner in a small bar. We wd watch the lights go on at the Eiffel Tower and then walk down along the Seine.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (iQIUe)

122
"#7 train to Roosevelt Avenue/Jackson Heights. Former Braves pitcher John Rocker had a few unkind words about that line."

I remember that. I believe that he also said "some queer with AIDS" which got the Homopitchfork armyall riled up.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (OD2ni)

123 And at least they put the SSM question to a referendum.

So did we. It got defeated at the polls in over 30 states.

Didn't mean a fucking thing. SCOTUS decided that we can't run our own government because Constitution, or something.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (eEb+d)

124 Mars. Needs. Women.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:46 PM (St6BJ)
--------------------------------------------------

Ready or not Mars, here I come!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (6qR/9)

125 I know my thoughts of running away to a south seas island peak in mid February.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - If your right eyebrow isn't twitching you simply don't care. at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (hLRSq)

126
Already got my GTFO plan set in motion:

(I Want To Build A) Jumbo Ark by Nick Lowe

https://youtu.be/21pJK_7cXbc

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 03:52 PM (kdS6q)

127 I'm trying to learn Texan.

so Spanish?

Posted by: brak at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (Tj+s6)

128 Then we would both get mugged and stabbed to death by some muzzies.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (iQIUe)

129 Besides, I am already living in a different country than the one I was born in.

This has certainly been a factor in my musing about my career path.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (ZKzrr)

130
Looking forward to all oppressed SJWs expatriating to Special Snowflakistan which, I believe, is a province of Iraq...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (avEKX)

131 Half of those idiots surveyed could likely not even give you an "off the top of their mushy head" coherent definition of expatriate.

Uh huh-huh...hold up dood, let me google.....uh-huh...

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (CFcIt)

132
The rest of the world has only two things to offer. Interesting and exotic natural landscapes, and the remnants of earlier civilizations in the form of ruins, museums and architecture.

Both are things that have NOTHING to do with the people that currently occupy those countries.

Fact is, when compared to the US, the rest of the world pales.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (RWZqW)

133
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (NjiZL)

Finland about to go bust economically

Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (SyKbw)

134 I enjoyed Italy but it was not Merica.

But now 25 years later, Merica is not as much Merica as it used to be.

There is a lot of ruin in a nation.

Posted by: blaster at July 01, 2015 03:53 PM (2Ocf1)

135 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 03:50 PM (GpgJl)

Good one Vic.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:54 PM (48QDY)

136 Stewardess, I speak jive...

Posted by: Barbara B. at July 01, 2015 03:54 PM (/eTPT)

137 I am in Sandy Utah where Liberty will make its final stand.

Posted by: Matk in Sandy UT at July 01, 2015 03:54 PM (UJZkh)

138 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

Because Texan is my native tongue.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 03:55 PM (evdj2)

139 Looking forward to all oppressed SJWs expatriating to Special Snowflakistan which, I believe, is a province of Iraq...

Is there a crowd-funding campaign to rent a C-130 to ship them?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)

140
Hey voters, pull my finger for the big one!

Posted by: Christy Chrispy at July 01, 2015 03:55 PM (P330y)

141 1776 - "I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country."

2015 - "What countries allow porn and weed?"

Posted by: Birthers are right at July 01, 2015 03:55 PM (YPhIu)

142 Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT

Deep in enemy territory.....

Posted by: Little Boomer at July 01, 2015 03:55 PM (ZuVs9)

143 Most of the people in that survey probably didn't speak English. So they thought the surveyor said "exfoliate"- and their response was "Why yes, sure I do!"

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (GGCsk)

144 I'll say one thing. As many problems as South America has, when I visit there with my wife to see her family and friends, you can absolutely feel the the personal freedom when you get off the plane. Everything is less structured and regulated starting with the airport security. Get out of the airport you quickly realize petty nanny state laws about things like seat belts, smoking, street vendors etc...are non-existent and what few laws there are are non-enforced. Kids play everywhere unsupervised and nobody bats an eye. Of course there is a sense of chaos that you have to get used to and you have to learn to put up with people doing hings you may not like at all hours, like loud music and heavy drinking but it really is very refreshing. I don't think most people have any idea how much freedom we have lost the past 40 years or so until you go to places without a nanny state.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (1BQGO)

145 Obama is doing to the United States what Democrats did to Detroit. It will be funny to watch them go Greek once they've driven out the "undesirables".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (6qR/9)

146 Ace, what languages besides la Francais are you learning?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (ftVQq)

147 Or devolve beneath barbarism.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (6qR/9)

148 Didn't mean a fucking thing. SCOTUS decided that we can't run our own government because Constitution, or something.

--------------

That "We the People" doesn't mean very much anymore, sadly.

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (nSjrf)

149 Get out of the airport you quickly realize petty nanny state laws about things like seat belts, smoking, street vendors etc...are non-existent and what few laws there are are non-enforced. Kids play everywhere unsupervised and nobody bats an eye.

So it's still the 50's there.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)

150 ++++Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

I suspect that I would not find France to be an improvement. If I had to leave the US, Australia is probably the place that would tempt me the most, but they already speak-a my language. Unfortunately, the leftists are making many gains there as well.

Got a better idea on where to go? If they believe in liberty, it might just be worth learning some foreign gobbledygook.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (IN7k+)

151
People criticize my for walking with Obama and casually interlocking arms with the president, but what was I to do? Pull away and act like a fool, or smooze him for redevelopment funds? It's not as if I sucked his cock, so sit down and shut the fuck up!

Posted by: Christy Chrispy at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (P330y)

152 Mars. Needs. Women.
--
i feel your pain

Posted by: Bubba at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (/eTPT)

153 Yeah, we may end up in San Antonio and I was there a couple months ago. German to the north, Spanish all around.

Since I took both languages in school, I just seem to have a "foreign vocabulary" section in my brain, which supplies words from one of the languages, but not necessarily the right one.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (0xTsz)

154 *sigh*

I really miss people who understand American colloquialisms.

They are becoming rare. Hell, even some of the native kids don't know them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (eEb+d)

155 I like Chile. The Mister likes Scandinavia.

We have differences.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (O7MnT)

156 Hey nobody told me you all left while I was calling that asshole a liar not he last thread?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (/tNwW)

157 If Hillary manages to get elected, the USA will be a foreign country very soon!

Posted by: gastorgrab at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (u6OFe)

158 No where else to go that's better. :/

Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at July 01, 2015 03:58 PM (FA3Z7)

159 Running away will not solve the problem.

Also, other countries are all worse than America when it comes to Constitutional liberties.

The only reason one doesn't see constant social-space and legal-space battle over First Principles in those foreign countries is that they're either all already been totally conquered by leftist thought, or they never had real freedoms to begin with to argue over.

I've been around the world plenty of times. As bad as it can get here, nowhere is as free as America -- to this day.

The only answer is to endlessly fight fight fight the totalitarians.

No one said life was easy, or that politics was easy, or that one would always win.

Life is a struggle. Start to finish.

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 03:58 PM (jBuUi)

160 America is a big place. Maybe it would be possible to build an undetectable underground compound out in the wilds and learn survival skills. Dean Koontz had that setup in one of his novels (Relentless?)

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 01, 2015 03:58 PM (6qR/9)

161 Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)

I commented the other day that I rode my bike more in a month than my boy did total.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:58 PM (48QDY)

162 Hey nobody told me you all left while I was calling that asshole a liar not he last thread?

One doesn't disturb an artist at work.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 03:58 PM (evdj2)

163
I have emigrated. I was an economic migrant for three years. I did not comply with every regulation of my host country. (But come on, it was Germany. Do you know how many rules they have?)

I did speak their language and did not ask their citizens to give me anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2015 03:59 PM (JtwS4)

164 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 03:59 PM (kff5f)

165 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 03:59 PM (kff5f)

166 A point of all this national control of our lives is that no state can be a safe harbor. Not. Even. Texas.

Posted by: Bubba at July 01, 2015 03:59 PM (/eTPT)

167 Hey nobody told me you all left while I was calling that asshole a liar not he last thread?

If it helps, they didn't tell me either.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:00 PM (kff5f)

168 Is French still spoken in Vietnam, a gateway to all the delights of southeast Asia?

Delights are ladyboys, naturally.

Posted by: derit at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (jT+gh)

169 Hate to break it to you but Texas is being overrun by the same hipster tattooed douchebags that are all the rage. Couple that with the East Coast/West Coasters that are selling their overpriced homes and living in McMansions in Mckinney (top five best place in the country to live....if you've already destroyed your current city/county/state), and the illegals and you're looking at progressive domination in 10 to 20 years. SMOD 2016

Posted by: siga norry weaver at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (u0wJh)

170 If Hillary manages to get elected, the USA will be a foreign country very soon!
---
I shall rename it...Vagistan!

Posted by: HILARY! at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (/eTPT)

171 Can't wait to see the patrons response at Daytona. Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 03:51 PM (48QDY)

I swear I heard yesterday that there were people proudly waving or showing off confederate flags at a race, and the announcers went out of their way to condemn the fans? If true way to be idiots.

And Daytona is not banning them, yet, but IS doing a Confederate flag exchange program. What are they going to do with all those flags after, burn them? Screw 'em.

Posted by: LizLem, In for Flynn! at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (hvf9s)

172 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

So, I take it that French Muslims are Ewok-friendly?

Allahu Ak-Yub-Yub?

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (0cMkb)

173 153 Yeah, we may end up in San Antonio and I was there a couple months ago. German to the north, Spanish all around.

Since I took both languages in school, I just seem to have a "foreign vocabulary" section in my brain, which supplies words from one of the languages, but not necessarily the right one.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (0xTsz)

Come to SA! I was there this morning. I was in New Braunfels last night for a business meeting. I live in San Marcos. It's a beautiful area. But SA is not a particularly conservative city. The city council is overwhelmingly liberal. But it's better than Austin, and I love the San Antonio culture.

Posted by: Samuel at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (0Txm0)

174 Galt Gulch.

Posted by: Who Dat? at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (yYOXd)

175 Why aren't we? I suspect because everyone who isn't thinking of leaving is getting in some range time....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (EzgxV)

176 I'd rather my state expatriate.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 01, 2015 03:33 PM (t06LC)

This.

Of course, as one of the Morons put it the other day:

"If at first you don't secede, try, try again."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (kff5f)

177 Why not just go to Valinor?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
mortals.

Posted by: Elrond at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (/eTPT)

178
Running away will not solve the problem...The only answer is to endlessly fight fight fight the totalitarians. No one said life was easy, or that politics was easy, or that one would always win. Life is a struggle. Start to finish.
Posted by: zombie

Have fun storming the castle!

Waitress, uno otra Mai Tai, por favor.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (kdS6q)

179 Why learn a foreign language?

If I go to another country they should be made to accommodate me.

Not like racist USA where you are made to assimilate.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (fWAjv)

180 That "We the People" doesn't mean very much anymore, sadly.

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 01, 2015 03:56 PM (nSjrf)

The entire meaning of "We the People" and "consent of the governed" have been degraded and rendered meaningless by the leftists, lawyers and losers.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (ftVQq)

181 "This percentage greatly increases for those age 18 to 34. More than half of millennials, a whopping 55 percent, said that they would consider leaving the U.S. for foreign shores. Among them, 43 percent of men and 38 percent of women noted that a higher salary would be a factor in their relocation decision."

So instead of this being a Repub versus Democrat thing, or some sort of nationalist wrestling match, how about the economy is just ultra-shitty for young workers, and a good chunk of them would rather work on an asteroid than continue to get slightly-above minimum wages as a checkout clerk?

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (hAFla)

182 What's all this I hear about expectoration?

Posted by: Emily Litella at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (evdj2)

183 But it's better than Austin

I'm not convinced Detroit isn't better than Austin.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (kff5f)

184 >>> Ace, what languages besides la Francais are you learning?

i'm not learning any besides that at the moment, but I have plans. I'm going to start on Italian; Ekdahl is actually starting on Italian, too, and who knows, maybe I'll do a post a week on learning italian, if anyone wants to join in.

I started to re-learn german but shelved that.

Honestly, the most practical language ot learn is spanish, but I hear it's like italian, so maybe if i Learn italian i can pick up spanish easy.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

185 144 I'll say one thing. As many problems as South America has, when I visit there with my wife to see her family and friends, you can absolutely feel the the personal freedom when you get off the plane. Everything is less structured and regulated starting with the airport security. Get out of the airport you quickly realize petty nanny state laws about things like seat belts, smoking, street vendors etc...are non-existent and what few laws there are are non-enforced. Kids play everywhere unsupervised and nobody bats an eye. Of course there is a sense of chaos that you have to get used to and you have to learn to put up with people doing hings you may not like at all hours, like loud music and heavy drinking but it really is very refreshing. I don't think most people have any idea how much freedom we have lost the past 40 years or so until you go to places without a nanny state.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon

While that may be true in a tactile day-to-day sense, those freedoms you feel there are not constutionally guaranteed -- everything only feels free because the whole society is lazy and discombobulated. The freedom is an accident byproduct of everything being half-assed and consequently lax.

But if you actually look at the official structure, in theory it is or could be much more oppressive than America. But no one really bothers is all.

Furthermore, South American countries tend to fall into dictatorships or banana-republichood every now and then. Comes with the territory.

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (jBuUi)

186 For those who leave, leave knowing you will be missed. But there will be some of us who won't want you back if shit hits the fan and by some chance we force it back to normal.

Posted by: just saying at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (wkuqO)

187
If Hillary manages to get elected, the USA will be a foreign country very soon!

I shall rename it...Vagistan!
Posted by: HILARY!

Ute-topia...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (kdS6q)

188 Comprende Espanol. I would love to "emigrate" to Texas. These. Colors. Don't. Run.

...they consolidate.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (OQ9R7)

189 Is the 35% the progs who think the country isn't moving left fast enough? Or conservatives who see the writing on the wall?

Posted by: skip at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (xth/R)

190 177
Why not just go to Valinor?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

mortals.

Posted by: Elrond at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (/eTPT)

Tried that, didn't work out.

Posted by: Numenorians at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (yYOXd)

191 If you are married and have children Finland may be the place for you.

Good booze supply and legal Guns.

Way too darn cold for me.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (GoyxN)

192 South American countries tend to fall into dictatorships or banana-republichood every now and then. Comes with the territory.

ISWYDT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (kff5f)

193 how about the economy is just ultra-shitty for young workers, and a good chunk of them would rather work on an asteroid than continue to get slightly-above minimum wages as a checkout clerk?
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at July 01, 2015 04:02 PM (hAFla)

A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies!

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (vgIRn)

194 People criticize my for walking with Obama and
casually interlocking arms with the president, but what was I to do?
Pull away and act like a fool, or smooze him for redevelopment funds?
It's not as if I sucked his cock, so sit down and shut the fuck up! Posted by: Christy Chrispy at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (P330y)

Apparently he still maintains that his antics had nothing to do whatsoever with affecting the 2012 race. I say it is not smart to back a candidate that is completely delusional.

Posted by: LizLem, In for Flynn! at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (hvf9s)

195 To where?

There isn't another America to flee to. This was the end of the line. Anywhere you go is just as bad or worse in terms of liberty and future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (39g3+)

196 I shall rename it...Vagistan!
Posted by: HILARY!

Ute-topia...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (kdS6q)

Thread winner!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (eEb+d)

197 A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies!

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 01, 2015 04:05 PM (vgIRn)

North Dakota?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (fWAjv)

198 I was born here and will die here. Part of the issue with the US today is the cognitive dissonance, in that the speech police (and in WI, the REAL police) have turned the Land of the Free into the Land of the Too Afraid to Speak. Every kind of sexual perversion is now (or will soon be) celebrated, but plain old sex is being forbidden. It's just nuts!

You sort of expect certain suckage (no due process, no free speech, corruption) in other countries, but dealing with it here is hard. I could imagine people moving to another country in search of an honest experience, to get around the cognitive dissonance.

Probably, though, it's not "us" willing to move, but the millennials, who feel no special attraction to the US, no patriotism.

Posted by: Agent J at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (ueOgE)

199
Ace can write his great American novel.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (iQIUe)

200 While that may be true in a tactile day-to-day
sense, those freedoms you feel there are not constutionally guaranteed
-- everything only feels free because the whole society is lazy and
discombobulated. The freedom is an accident byproduct of everything
being half-assed and consequently lax.

But if you actually look at the official structure, in theory it is
or could be much more oppressive than America. But no one really
bothers is all.

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (jBuUi)
So ... pretty much the converse of the situation here.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (oKE6c)

201

Posted by: Norman Bates' Mother at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (evdj2)

202 Why learn a foreign language?

If I go to another country they should be made to accommodate me.

I'm still peeved the woman in the post office in Vaduz didn't even let me try to stammer out my request for stamps in German before speaking to me in English.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (ZKzrr)

203 157
If Hillary manages to get elected, the USA will be a foreign country very soon!

Posted by: gastorgrab at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (u6OFe)

America, land of the ruled, home of the . . . . ooh another picture of Kim's ass.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (Vf5rR)

204 I'll say one thing. As many problems as South America has, when I visit there with my wife to see her family and friends, you can absolutely feel the the personal freedom when you get off the plane.

When you're a wealthy tourist? Sure. When you're not, you exist at the mercy of the government and their corrupt criminal pals.

Its like living in Costa Rica. Super cheap cost of living, you go down there with 100 grand and you're a billionaire. But you gotta pay that tribute to the government and you gotta bribe folks to keep comfortable. Don't have that baksheesh? You're out of luck.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (39g3+)

205 I'm not convinced Detroit isn't better than Austin.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (kff5f)

I would definitely say that Detroit is not better than Austin. But I've not been to Detroit, so that is based only on what I've read. Austin is pretty nice if you can bring yourself to ignore hippy culture and pretension. That's what I like about SA. It is very blue collar, and there is very little pretense. Also, the Alamo is there.

The place where I work, incidentally, is in Gonzales, TX, where the Come and Take It flag originated. There is a lot of great history and tradition here.

Posted by: Samuel at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (0Txm0)

206 So ... pretty much the converse of the situation here.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 01, 2015 04:06 PM (oKE6c)

Anyone else remember the two-tone fold-over converse hightops?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (kff5f)

207 "You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?"

Because, like any REAL American I believe that regardless the country I choose to live in, THEY should learn to speak English.

Posted by: jwest at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (9ZZd+)

208 I'd want to emigrate to Australia, so I've been watching lots of Crocodile Dundee. It's maybe changing my mind.

Posted by: Austin in TX at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (lKVc4)

209
I like Estonia, except that part about being so close to Russia.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (ODxAs)

210 >>> Ace, what languages besides la Francais are you learning?

i'm not learning any besides that at the moment, but I have plans.
I'm going to start on Italian; Ekdahl is actually starting on Italian,
too, and who knows, maybe I'll do a post a week on learning italian, if
anyone wants to join in.

I started to re-learn german but shelved that.

Honestly, the most practical language ot learn is spanish, but I
hear it's like italian, so maybe if i Learn italian i can pick up
spanish easy.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

Y'know, Ace, if you did move to Switzerland you can practice all three languages as much as you want. If you also try your hand at learning romansch or swiss-german languages as a bonus, you will be set. Also they have some of the best cheese in the world...

Posted by: LizLem, In for Flynn! at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (hvf9s)

211 Samuel, there are some things I sure like about SA.

Driving around there will take some getting used to. I guess it has to be better when I know where I'm going...

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (0xTsz)

212 When's that detailed opinion to be issued on the Amanda Knox case suppose to come out? I think it's over due.

I complained last March when the court kept saying it wd issue a ruling and then kicked it over another day. I then got viciously attacked by the Knox haters for not showing respect for the court. LOL Ef You!

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (iQIUe)

213 I spent almost 17 years out of 21 in the Military serving in Foreign Countries. I wish everyone that wants to leave good luck with all that. Most of the Countries (even some 1st world ones) are pretty much $hitholes compared to the US. Just sayin......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (iONHu)

214 To Where?
Have you all found a place, and no one told me?

Posted by: Paladin at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (WujO7)

215 Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

So a related question is what tools are you using, Berlitz, Rosetta , etc.? I know you said you were reading the Frog newspapers.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (ftVQq)

216 190 177
>Why not just go to Valinor? Posted by: Elrond

>Tried that, didn't work out. Posted by: Numenoreans

You didn't do it right.

Posted by: Frodo Baggins at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (ueOgE)

217 Tried that, didn't work out.
Posted by: Numenorians at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (yYOXd)
---
Yeah, then you had to illegally immigrate and steal my land.
bunch of fargin iceholes.

Posted by: Ghan Buri Ghan at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (/eTPT)

218 192 South American countries tend to fall into dictatorships or banana-republichood every now and then. Comes with the territory.

*************

I''m told there's a book that tries to explain this phenomenon, but I can't remember title or author.

With those natural resources, there's no rational reason why South America shouldn't rule the world. Has something to do with Catholicism, I think.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (vgIRn)

219 So, which country are we filibustering?

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (7YlUk)

220 Nous nous rendons!

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (n3Sbm)

221 I've enjoyed SA the times I've been there. I prefer more rural or semi-rural areas, personally (despite living in DFW myownself).

Austin just makes my teeth itch.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (kff5f)

222 Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

Everything springs from Latin, does it not?

I've always thought that, but I may be wrong. I would figure that as a base, then expand from there, thinking other languages would appeal to that base.

...but I simply have no idea.

-Molon Labe
-Delenda Est

-Viva Texas

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (OQ9R7)

223 As always-

the quality of your life as an ex-patriate in a foreign country-

is directly proportional to the amount of cash you can bring along.

Of course, given that our betters world-wide are driving toward economic collapse-

perhaps that won't be as big a problem.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (0cMkb)

224 With those natural resources, there's no rational reason why South America shouldn't rule the world.

Same thing with Africa. They have all they need. I think living closer to the equator makes it more difficult to really excel though. Its so damn hot and muggy and full of horrible animals and bugs just surviving takes most of your effort.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (39g3+)

225 The place where I work, incidentally, is in
Gonzales, TX, where the Come and Take It flag originated. There is a
lot of great history and tradition here.

Posted by: Samuel at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (0Txm0)

For now.

Posted by: Obama and Co. at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (Vf5rR)

226 I spent almost 17 years out of 21 in the Military
serving in Foreign Countries. I wish everyone that wants to leave good
luck with all that. Most of the Countries (even some 1st world ones) are
pretty much $hitholes compared to the US. Just sayin......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (iONH)

Problem is that for quite a long time "we" could degrade the hell out of the US, and did, and still have a better country than anywhere else, but I think we're reaching the point where that doesn't apply anymore.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2015 04:10 PM (ftVQq)

227 But ace, French? As already noted, hard to escape the worst of what's growing here, cuz it's mostly already long dominant elsewhere. Which is the infuriating point of the thing.

As for youngsters open to living elsewhere, normal for their age, not bad sign in itself. But boy do I know the "exotic foreign fever" thing, saw it plenty among State/peace corpse types - and yes usually accompanied moonbat tendencies.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (g8umy)

228 Driving around there will take some getting used to. I guess it has to be better when I know where I'm going...
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (0xTsz)

I imagine that is true no matter where you move to.

Posted by: Samuel at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (0Txm0)

229 Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 03:32 PM (WvS3w)

A million times this. Also, I live in Miami, so it already feels like I'm in another country.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (78OXS)

230 Moron Labe.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (n3Sbm)

231 Remember, TX isn't a foreign country, and when the SHTF, and you're on the line staring down the federales, the Austinites will shiv you in the kidneys from behind. Game over, man.

Posted by: Agent J at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (ueOgE)

232 because i can already speak Texan.

no need to learn a new language to emigrate there, and there's no where else to go that isn't as FUBAR as here.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (yi8ar)

233 "64
>>>I consider it every week now. The problem is, why exchange one shithole for another?

i'm hoping some country figures this out and makes themselves more inviting to expats.

one can dream.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 03:42 PM (bhepQ)"

You would think that Belize would figure that out. The first group they could attract would be divorced men who can't see their kids any way and who are way under water on their alimony and child support. Naturally, the courts will soon start confiscating passports but I assume that the coyotes would be happy to make money smuggling people both ways across the permeable border.

The cost of living in Belize is pretty low and telecom and computer networks make instantaneous communications available to everywhere so at a minimum you could set up call centers in Belize where people speak intelligible English. There are also plenty of people who could qualify to do phone tech support.

From there you build up other economic opportunities. I don't know what kind of government they have there, though. You would hope that it has a tradition of stealing only in moderation in order to avoid killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (QHgTq)

234 Let's see - 35% would leave but only .001% left last year. That does not sound like a serious thought pattern, that sounds like people daydreaming about running away to live on a south seas island.

Or because every other country in the world has serious immigration laws.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (JIElb)

235 How much of the Ex-Pat wistfulness is just 'Mericans dreaming about exotic foreign places?

Plus the number is low, considering we all have the ability to pick up and leave. I bet if you included Other States in the polling it'd come out to the high-80s or 90s.

If there's anything Kerouac demonstrated, its that all Americans love the open road. All of us.

Posted by: Bigby's Indian Sunburn at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)

236 Mrs. R. people are Slovenian, while visiting they said they could hide me on the Croatian border. This friendship surprised me considering their history with Italians.

Posted by: redenzo at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (WCnJW)

237 I'm still peeved the woman in the post office in Vaduz didn't even let me try to stammer out my request for stamps in German before speaking to me in English.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (ZKzrr)

When ace gets done learning and moving to France he is gonna land smack dab in the middle of the 35 percent expatriated Americans.

I LEARNED FRENCH DAMMIT!! NOW SE VOUS FU**ING PLAIT!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (fWAjv)

238
Its like living in Costa Rica.

-------------

Got stopped by police on the highway in Costa for no reason at all, luckily we'd been forewarned, money changed hands and we were on our way. Couldn't live in a place like that. Though Washington DC has learned that fine art, just at a higher level.

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (nSjrf)

239
Posted by:AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet
at July 01, 2015 04:01 PM (kff5f)

Its going to happen in our lifetimes, if not in this decade. They just don't get the idea that we want to be left the fcvk ALONE.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (O9qtX)

240 I've enjoyed SA the times I've been there. I prefer more rural or semi-rural areas, personally (despite living in DFW myownself).

Fannin County.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (P8HwW)

241 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

***********

Je parle un peau de Francais.

But I'm poor and have no wife and two kiddos. We'll save you a spot on the front lines of the Restored Constitutional Republic of Greater Texas, though, Frenchie.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (vgIRn)

242 Je m'appelle Dacier, je suis le Piste Huit!

Posted by: Dacier at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (UnJ7w)

243 I've been to Detroit and there's nowhere in America that can be worse. I feared for my life in the airport. The only place that came close was when I ventured outside the train station in Chicago and it was the worst kind of depression-era looking slum right outside the doors. I expected Tiny Tim to clump by right before being mugged and stabbed. I retreated to the station.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (39g3+)

244 Where the F would we move. Last best hope of earth, etc.

Posted by: Bud Norton at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (6cOMd)

245 A. I'm in Texas, and already speak Texan.
B. Can't physically move to my Terran Empire. Already speak Imperial English and Esperanto (depends on which universe I'm writing in).
C. Can't physically move to Skyrim, but am learning Dovahzul anyway.
D. Really? Can't afford to move, even if I had a better place to go.

Posted by: Empire1 at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (0zpyJ)

246 You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.

----

No, we keep asking why you're studying *French*.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (VAsIq)

247 I share links from AoSHQ to a local forum from time to time.

Re:Urge to Purge/Bill Quick Disembolment

That Ace fellow from the link is mad as hell. But he's a straight shooter for sure.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (Vf5rR)

248 The place to study Italian is Perugia. However, they have a bounty on Ace's head over there.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (iQIUe)

249 Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (g8umy)

Well french would be useful in...

France... Quebec... Ivory Coast ... Niger... uhhhh... uhh... some other african shit holes I cant think of...

Haiti?

Yeah, french is useless.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (AkOaV)

250 We are quite welcoming. Come for the austerity! Stay for the confiscatory taxes!

Posted by: Greece at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (/eTPT)

251 Honestly, the most practical language ot learn is spanish, but I hear it's like italian, so maybe if i Learn italian i can pick up spanish easy.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

Ace, all Romance languages have many similarities in grammar, tense and vocabulary, but there are still quite a few differences. That said, being grounded in one does help in learning another.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (St6BJ)

252 There was once a guy who thought the same thing in the late '70s and searched for that perfect country where there was basically total freedom due to non-enforcement of most laws, plenty of natural resources and opportunity, everybody spoke English, never really been a totalitarian dictatorship (left or right), and not crowded with other Americans seeking the same paradise.

He found it. It was a little country on the northern shore of South America called Guyana.

And that man was Jim Jones.

...Sometimes, one's fantasies don't turn out as one imagines....

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (jBuUi)

253 184 >>> Ace, what languages besides la Francais are you learning?

i'm not learning any besides that at the moment, but I have plans. I'm going to start on Italian; Ekdahl is actually starting on Italian, too, and who knows, maybe I'll do a post a week on learning italian, if anyone wants to join in.

I started to re-learn german but shelved that.

Honestly, the most practical language ot learn is spanish, but I hear it's like italian, so maybe if i Learn italian i can pick up spanish easy.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (bhepQ)

You can actually get by in Italy using straight Spanish.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (EzgxV)

254 Alaska, Brooks Range some assembly required.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (sgrzZ)

255
I wonder if it ever occurred to the Left, that if all Americans and Mexicans traded places, the Mexicans would be trying to cross the border south to New America in about a year and half.

Probably not.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (ODxAs)

256

So, we're all agreed -- Serbia is off the list.

Right?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (kdS6q)

257 Let's see - 35% would leave but only .001% left last year. That does not sound like a serious thought pattern, that sounds like people daydreaming about running away to live on a south seas island.

Or because every other country in the world has serious immigration laws.

Or because they were asked a question about if they were willing, not if they were planning.

I would be "willing" to expatriate, if things lined up properly.

I have no plans to do so, and likely never will.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (kff5f)

258 Dudes, If you're going to move to France, Learn Arabic!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (/eTPT)

259 216
190 177

>Why not just go to Valinor? Posted by: Elrond

>Tried that, didn't work out. Posted by: Numenoreans

You didn't do it right.

Posted by: Frodo Baggins at July 01, 2015 04:08 PM (ueOgE)

Different mentor.

Posted by: Numenorians at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (yYOXd)

260 Nobody's mentioned moving to Peruvia?

It's like I don't know y'all anymore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (eEb+d)

261 Je parle un peau de Francais.

But I'm poor and have no wife and two kiddos. We'll save you a spot on the front lines of the Restored Constitutional Republic of Greater Texas, though, Frenchie.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (vgI

I speak a skin of French?

I believe you are looking for the word "peu."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (St6BJ)

262 "Anyone else remember the two-tone fold-over Converse hightops?"
-Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 04:07 PM (kff5f)

Ah, yes. The Converse Calzone.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (OQ9R7)

263 France is a bigger $hithole than the U.S.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (n3Sbm)

264 Married the fiancee last week, quiet little beach front service.

If anyone would rather relocate internally, we still have her old house available for immediate occupancy if anyone has ninety grand, or can get ninety grand, and doesn't mind living in Madisonville, Kentucky. Doesn't get much redder than that.

Email in nic if anyone wants to discuss it. Been trying to sell it since January, no luck, and it's either flip it or see if the bank will take the deed as an owner surrender. We can't afford two mortgages forever.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at July 01, 2015 04:15 PM (xIBU4)

265 Hey Ace, check out an island in the Caribbean I had the pleasure to visit in 2013.
"Iles des Saints"
The English refer to it as the Isles of the Holy Dead.

Quaint place. French. It is on my short list.
You should see the women. Such beauties.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at July 01, 2015 04:15 PM (JgC5a)

266
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:12 PM (39g3+)

man, getting off at the wrong train station in Chicago is nothing. Try taking a wrong turn coming back from old Cominsky Park and end up driving by Cabrini Green in the early 90s

Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2015 04:15 PM (SyKbw)

267 217
Tried that, didn't work out.

Posted by: Numenorians at July 01, 2015 04:04 PM (yYOXd)

---

Yeah, then you had to illegally immigrate and steal my land.

bunch of fargin iceholes.

Posted by: Ghan Buri Ghan at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (/eTPT)

Refugees, man, refugees!

Posted by: Numenorians at July 01, 2015 04:15 PM (yYOXd)

268 "With those natural resources, there's no rational
reason why South America shouldn't rule the world. Has something to do
with Catholicism, I think.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (vgIRn)"

Yeah. That's probably why the same thing is always happening in Poland, Hungary, Austria, the Czech Republic and Bavaria.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 01, 2015 04:16 PM (QHgTq)

269 If you speak Italian, call me!

Posted by: Wanda Gerschwitz at July 01, 2015 04:16 PM (/eTPT)

270 Got stopped by police on the highway in Costa for no
reason at all, luckily we'd been forewarned, money changed hands and we
were on our way. Couldn't live in a place like that. Though
Washington DC has learned that fine art, just at a higher level.

Posted by: flmomof4 at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (nSjrf)
In DC it's still your money that changes hands, but to make it easy for you the politicians have taken over the personal aspect of the funds transfer (for a modest fee of course).

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2015 04:16 PM (ftVQq)

271 Oesday igpay atinlay ountcay?

Posted by: wrg500 at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (sgrzZ)

272 263 France is a bigger $hithole than the U.S.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (n3Sbm)

The closest I ever want to live in France is watching "Amelie" and "An American in Paris" on my TV.

I have the double-whammy of being American and a Jew so I'll stay the hell away.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (St6BJ)

273 But if you actually look at the official structure,
in theory it is or could be much more oppressive than America. But no
one really bothers is all.

Furthermore, South American countries tend to fall into
dictatorships or banana-republichood every now and then. Comes with the
territory.

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (jBuUi)
Actually you are right about that Zombie . Many/most countries there have totalitarian impulses but even when some bad people get in power they are really only interested in political control. Nobody in govt cares cares about you riding in the back of a truck or selling a cow without all the proper govt inspection and don't have the resources or will to anyway. That is what makes the American leftists so dangerous. They want control over peoples personal lives as well as political and they now have control of our incredibly well financed govt and all the assorted enforcement agencies.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (1BQGO)

274 Thought you were studying French. Quebec, Haiti?

Posted by: Adjoran at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (QIQ6j)

275 "I like Estonia, except that part about being so close to Russia."

Not a problem, Comrade.

Posted by: Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (Mrl1e)

276 True Fact: the French has 127 words for Surrender.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (evdj2)

277 I'm learning spanish. ...letting the $hithole come to me.

Posted by: dogfish at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (jWtyG)

278 You can actually get by in Italy using straight Spanish.

Posted by: cthulhu

You can get by anywhere in western Europe by speaking English REALLY LOUD.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (VAsIq)

279 Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (1BQGO)

Chile seems to be pretty stable.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (lJJaE)

280
Can't we just send the lefties somewhere? Some place nice that would really appreciate them like Iran

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (493sH)

281 Posted by: wrg500 at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (sgrzZ)

Yeah, just what I was picturing.

9 months of freezing my ass off in the artic circle in the dark, then 3 months of getting consumed alive by mosquitoes in daylight.

sounds delightful.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (AkOaV)

282 "And that man was Jim Jones.

...Sometimes, one's fantasies don't turn out as one imagines...."
-Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (jBuUi)

San Francisco leftist Jim Jones?

...yup.

(s)-Here's your Kool-Aid.

Not A Cult! (/s)

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (OQ9R7)

283 True Fact: the French has 127 words for Surrender.

Posted by: Grump928(c)

Yeah, but 13 of those deal with sexual bliss, so it's not all bad.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (VAsIq)

284 Peruvia was looking good until they invested everyone's pension funds in Greek drachmas.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (mvenn)

285 I'm going to learn to speak Ebola.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (VAsIq)

286 If it wasn't for the grandkids, the wife and I would be permanently in Buenos Aires.

However, it we wouldn't give up U.S. citizenship.

The best of both worlds is to live in a pleasant, developed country that has an economy that has been trashed by socialists, while living on money from a U.S. source that the IRS doesn't know about.

Pay in cash. Live like a king.

Hope the socialists keep the citizens scrambling for dollars so that everything is dirt cheap.

Posted by: jwest at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (9ZZd+)

287 " I'd want to emigrate to Australia, so I've been watching lots of Crocodile Dundee. It's maybe changing my mind."

Australia really intrigues......tucked off down there away from most everything....but it's a soft police state with ridiculous gun laws and an active Green Party.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (LA7Cm)

288 Posted by: Agent J at July 01, 2015 04:11 PM (ueOgE)

And Mexicans. Don't forget the Mexicans.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (48QDY)

289 nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (P8HwW)

290 I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die
here, an no sidewindin bushwackin, hornswaglin, cracker croaker is
gonna rouin me bishen cutter.

Posted by: Colin at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (WQLtV)

291 I speak whale!

Posted by: Dori at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (VAsIq)

292 I believe you are looking for the word "peu."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (St6BJ)

Thank you. In my defense, I did say "speak," as well as "a little."

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (vgIRn)

293 277 I'm learning spanish. ...letting the $hithole come to me.
Posted by: dogfish at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (jWtyG)

If you dropped someone fresh from crossing the Rio Grande into downtown Madrid, the Spaniards would not understand thing he's say.

It ain't Castillian, that's for sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (St6BJ)

294 Out of all the Countries I have served in or had Liberty calls in the only one I would ever emigrate to is Japan but they wont let hardly anybody in. They are the biggest racists that I have encountered anywhere in the entire World.

Hong Kong would have been another but the friggin Brits gave it back and the Chinese have ruined it I hear.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (iONHu)

295 "Yeah, just what I was picturing.

9 months of freezing my ass off in the artic circle in the dark, then 3 months of getting consumed alive by mosquitoes in daylight.

sounds delightful."

...but enough about Minnesota.

Posted by: Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (Mrl1e)

296 Is it because the millennials think conditions here are bad, or is it because they've been told from birth how evil, imperial, and repressive the US is?

And just how many of these numbnuts voted for the jug-eared messiah because it was cool or they were conditioned to do so?

Fvck 'em. Leave already.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 01, 2015 04:19 PM (nqiq9)

297 Let's see - 35% would leave but only .001% left last year.

I'm guessing a lot more than 0.001% left. 0.001% gave up their citizenship. I don't even know why we're comparing these two different things.

Or because every other country in the world has serious immigration laws.

France and Denmark are starting to set up checkpoints on their southern borders; Hungary's building a wall. New Zealand's got a No Fatties sign out front.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (ZKzrr)

298 Nood. NY Slimes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (h4vJk)

299 You can get by anywhere in western Europe by speaking English REALLY LOUD.

Thank you, Mark Twain.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (evdj2)

300 Well, I don't know, Ace. Given the state of France I don't know French is the best language to study. Maybe Arabic or (worldwide) Chinese, or Spanish but maybe you're studying those as well

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (OSs/l)

301 "You can get by anywhere in western Europe by speaking English REALLY LOUD."
-Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 04:17 PM (VAsIq)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (OQ9R7)

302 >>i'm hoping some country figures this out and makes themselves more inviting to expats.

This came up on a recent ONT, sort of.....private island for the Horde. Create your own safe space.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/

(Ginger Island is intriguing...)

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (NOIQH)

303 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 01, 2015 04:14 PM (eEb+d)

Alextopia WAS mentioned.

Posted by: Golfman at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (48QDY)

304 Australia really intrigues......tucked off down there away from most everything....but it's a soft police state with ridiculous gun laws and an active Green Party.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 01, 2015 04:18 PM (LA7Cm)

And face-sized spiders.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 01, 2015 04:20 PM (vgIRn)

305 So what can we do to get the liberals out of America..... I need to embrace my inner Ricky Bobby.

Posted by: Draki at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (QL1Y0)

306 267 217

Yeah, then you had to illegally immigrate and steal my land.
bunch of fargin iceholes.
Posted by: Ghan Buri Ghan at July 01, 2015 04:09 PM (/eTPT)

Refugees, man, refugees!
Posted by: Numenoreans

Shoulda just made your butts stay on the boat. Would've avoided a lot of problems.

Posted by: Thranduil at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (ueOgE)

307 Colin Johnson is right!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (evdj2)

308 "You guys keep asking me why I'm studying foreign languages.
Here's a better question: Why aren't you?"

Because I'm a patriot and will fight for my country here.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN)

309 Singapore seems uptight enough, but they are very strict about what Americans can live there.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (8rRE+)

310 Italian? Well one country where the culture/style of living is so great that it's a serious idea . . .

Lessee. German. Well, there's always Namibia, or Blumenau/southern Brazil. Russian. Mm, don't think so. Vietnamese is limited and rusty - and like all tonal languages is absurdly difficult to learn as an adult, tho you can read the signs/menus.

Portuguese. Freshest and easiest. Brazil. Porto/Douro Valley. Goa. Probably my best language for remote , beautiful places to escape. Nearly did, years ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (g8umy)

311 290 I'm pleased the children were able to see that.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (8rRE+)

312 There are towns in way top northern NYS that are francophone

Its why nobody could find those escapees for so long

those frenchies kept saying shit like turne a droit, a gauche, etc

Posted by: Bigby's Indian Sunburn at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (3ZtZW)

313 Romania is a nice place to set up stakes.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (ueOgE)

314 Posted by: DrewM still sucks at July 01, 2015 04:21 PM (EgbCN) Unhide all posts from (EgbCN)

I can't see it but, someone posting with this handle on an Ace thread still makes me snicker.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (evdj2)

315 wait, is there a hide post command?

Posted by: Draki at July 01, 2015 04:25 PM (QL1Y0)

316 313 Romania is a nice place to set up stakes.
Posted by: Vlad Tepes at July 01, 2015 04:23 PM (ueOgE)

One thing I could never stand about Romania. All the damn vampires.

Posted by: Grandpa at July 01, 2015 04:26 PM (vgIRn)

317 wait, is there a hide post command?

Posted by: Draki at July 01, 2015 04:25 PM (QL1Y0) Hide posts from (QL1Y0)

Duh. I'm shielded from Moo Moo's retard rays.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:27 PM (evdj2)

318 AoS Platinum ftw.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:28 PM (evdj2)

319 Greece is now the best place to consider retiring to.

If they adopt their own currency again, dollars will be king.

Posted by: jwest at July 01, 2015 04:28 PM (9ZZd+)

320 Pre-ChiCom run Hong Kong would've been close to perfect-

with enough money.

Japan, too, would be nice except for that whole aggressively circling demographic disaster deal.

Plus, a corrupt gov't chock full o'cronies and national health that's not all that great.

But, as a day to day place to live - yeah, nice.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:29 PM (0cMkb)

321 Plus, a corrupt gov't chock full o'cronies and national health that's not all that great.

And Gojira!

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 04:30 PM (ZKzrr)

322 Get out of the airport you quickly realize petty nanny state laws about things like seat belts, smoking, street vendors etc...are non-existent and what few laws there are are non-enforced. Kids play everywhere unsupervised and nobody bats an eye.

So it's still the 50's there.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)

In a word, yes. I noticed the same thing, arriving in Nicaragua. Kind of chaotic, but in a good way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2015 04:31 PM (IxLzY)

323 Plus, a corrupt gov't chock full o'cronies and national health that's not all that great.

And Gojira!

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 04:30 PM (ZKzrr)

Well, Mecha-Gojira and him have a thing on the down low these days.

So, he's pretty mellow.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:33 PM (0cMkb)

324 Because there isn't any place worth going that isn't as fucked as we are.

Posted by: Mortis at July 01, 2015 04:34 PM (kGXNb)

325 Japan, too, would be nice except for that whole aggressively circling demographic disaster deal.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:29 PM (0cMkb)

A lot of rural places in Japan are becoming depopulated. Wouldn't mind if they set up little reservations where we could be left alone...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at July 01, 2015 04:34 PM (7YlUk)

326 If it wasn't for Vlad Putin jacking it while dreaming of a vast Russian Empire I would suggest somewhere in Eastern Europe. Yes, the governments are still often largely corrupt and run by the same scumbag communists who were supposedly thrown out of power in '91 but they're still pretty pro-west and freedom. Most have a flat tax. If you aren't in a big city you can avoid the Russian mob.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:37 PM (39g3+)

327 While that may be true in a tactile day-to-day sense, those freedoms you feel there are not constutionally guaranteed -- everything only feels free because the whole society is lazy and discombobulated. The freedom is an accident byproduct of everything being half-assed and consequently lax.

But if you actually look at the official structure, in theory it is or could be much more oppressive than America. But no one really bothers is all.

Furthermore, South American countries tend to fall into dictatorships or banana-republichood every now and then. Comes with the territory.

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:03 PM (jBuUi)

But if you go into such a situation, with your eyes open, and with a willingness to play the game as it is played there, you can get along just fine. Grease the right palms, schmooze the right people, and you can enjoy all the practical freedom you can handle. But just be prepared to leave on short notice, if some demagogue starts to stir up the masses against foreigners.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2015 04:39 PM (IxLzY)

328 I'd move overseas -- but all the non-hot countries (e.g., Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland) are almost as madly socialist, or as overrun with invaders, as the U.S. And then there'd be the problem of finding a job.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 01, 2015 04:39 PM (buqhZ)

329 A lot of rural places in Japan are becoming depopulated. Wouldn't mind if they set up little reservations where we could be left alone...

Really really high cost of living in Japan. Plus they hate foreigners, especially in rural areas. It would be enlightening for more Americans to travel to other nations like that and learn what an actually racist, bigoted country is like though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:39 PM (39g3+)

330 13
I understand the impulse Ace, I have it myself, but here's a better question:

Go where? Where can we go where all of this left wing totalitarian garbage isn't already worse than it is here?

Unless a new continent boils up out of the Pacific, or interplanetary terraforming and travel is perfected, we're kinda stuck.
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Alpha Centauri is nice this time of the millenium!

Posted by: Captain Kirk at July 01, 2015 04:41 PM (buqhZ)

331 As bad as some things are in America, the political correctness and restrictions on gun rights are even worse in most of the world. Except maybe for Afghanistan, where gun ownership is embraced.

The problem is that we aren't setting a high bar. The rest of the world is in many ways worse. Australia has given up their guns and become a land of pussies. That's overly harsh, but things there are getting pretty bad.

Switzerland could still be a possibility.

But if you think about it seriously, and I have, the lack of better alternatives is frightening. I've been learning Latin and working on my time machine.

Posted by: kraki at July 01, 2015 04:41 PM (TNa9O)

332 Really really high cost of living in Japan. Plus they hate foreigners, especially in rural areas. It would be enlightening for more Americans to travel to other nations like that and learn what an actually racist, bigoted country is like though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:39 PM (39g3+)

Having travelled a lot in rural Japan, I can say I've absolutely never experienced that.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2015 04:42 PM (0cMkb)

333 It's true that other places in the world don't have the gun rights we have. It is also true that they aren't needed as much in some places.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at July 01, 2015 04:48 PM (JgC5a)

334 America is supposed to be different: land of liberty and all that. I fought for that America. But this is not America. I didn't fight 7th century barbarians so statists could build a progressive utopia.

If I'm going to live in an oligarchy where I'm driven into silence for my personal beliefs, may as well do it where I can get more bang for my buck and live on a beach. Unless somebody with some sense gets some armored divisions, a serviceable navy with ports, and some air wings (I'm looking at you, Texas) there is a bleak long term future for liberty minded people in this country.

Posted by: RLTW at July 01, 2015 04:50 PM (mJLvJ)

335 And that man was Jim Jones.

...Sometimes, one's fantasies don't turn out as one imagines....

Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 04:13 PM (jBuUi)

Well, you can scarcely blame Jonestown on Guyana. The guilt pretty much all falls upon the shoulders of Jim Jones, and on communism in general.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2015 04:51 PM (IxLzY)

336 Well, you can scarcely blame Jonestown on Guyana. The guilt pretty much all falls upon the shoulders of Jim Jones, and on communism in general.

If only San Fransisco had been more open-minded.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 01, 2015 04:58 PM (evdj2)

337 Late to the thread...

It's now over $2000 to renounce US citizenship. It was $450. Under Bush - $0.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 01, 2015 05:01 PM (AC0lD)

338 Reminds me of this article I read just the other day: http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/06/29/lifestyle/moving-to-south-america-what-you-need-to-know/

Posted by: pkudude99 at July 01, 2015 05:02 PM (jr+YD)

339 Wow!

Can you believe how much better off this country would be if 55% of millennials left?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 01, 2015 05:07 PM (YYJjz)

340 The problem isn't that a growing number of us want away, the problem is that, like Massholes fleeing to New Hampshire, the remaining 65% will follow us to wherever we end up.

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 01, 2015 05:08 PM (jfUIE)

341 After getting the shit kicked out of me on 9/11, I spent a year and a half in London. Couldn't wait to get back... even to New York. It was mostly the lack of a Duane Reade or CVS. Boots doesn't cut it.

Posted by: gzulux at July 01, 2015 05:40 PM (2pOTb)

342 For example, don't you think Choom Boy would far happier in Cuba, North Korea or Iran? He's got their schtick down to a "T," and would certainly be greeted by cheering throngs on arrival....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 01, 2015 03:34 PM (P8YHq)

In Iran Prezzy Rainbow is headed off of a rooftop

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 05:45 PM (493sH)

343 You know what's really fun, when someone hoists themselves by their own petard.

Thread in question:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=357582

Our brain-dead paramecium (w/ apologies to brain-dead paramecium) decided to start bashing someone for responding directly, appropriately, and in context to another comment. Then couldn't handle it when everyone called s/h/it out for s/h/it's, well, shit.

So, to be clear: A commenter (not to be named, you can go look at the thread if you care) mentioned his frustration with the gaystappo, and mentioned wanting to imprison gays.

The someone in question pointed out that, hey, that includes me, and I'm not cool with that 'cause I'm not with them.

Some back and forth ensued.

S/h/it latched on to a comment making a logical counterpoint, and decided it was histrionics. S/h/it quickly had it pointed out that s/h/it was wrong- and then s/h/it lot s/h/it's, well, shit.

And now rather than accept that it was wrong and (at best) lacks reading comprehension and basic reasoning skills, s/h/it continues to harass our friend, and is starting to lash out at the Horde more generally.

Listen, fromabroad, you are wrong. What you (claim to) believe she said was not what she said. What she said was in direct response to another commenter, and was a rhetorical device used to show said other commenter some of the less... desirable effects of said commenter's stated position.

I know that this won't persuade you. I know that you're to blinded by your hate to accept that someone might actually have a point with which you disagree. But I wanted it to be clear to the rest of the Horde exactly where you stand.

You are clinging desperately to an idea that is incorrect. You have been told this repeatedly. You are a) too intellectually dishonest, b) too intellectually weak, c) too actually dishonest, or d) some combination of the above to admit that you are wrong.

And, based on your other comments, you're a raging homophobe. Of the two of you, I'd much rather associate with AtC.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 01, 2015 05:48 PM (kff5f)

344 Poll yesterday showed that most Americans are happy with SCOTUS's decisions. Well, if they are so happy, why do 35% want to leave? Makes me think people are saying they're fine with gay marriage just so they aren't labelled a "bigot", much like Obama's numbers.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 01, 2015 06:01 PM (xetep)

345 You'd probably be better off just going off the grid here and pretending you're an illegal alien rather than say moving abroad.

I really think the best strategy is mass disobedience. I've already embraced it.

Posted by: Kal at July 01, 2015 06:05 PM (g9RIG)

346 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ1qkGxoR0
I am already gone, as Glenn Frey would put it. I have been living abroad since 2003, and haven't even stepped foot in the USA for 6 years now. I didn't originally set out to leave the USA for good, but only for a year for work. For many years I was planning to come back, but over the past 7 years or so I have become progressively disgusted by what America is turning into. I work in academia, and for someone with "unapproved views", I find that where I am I have a far greater degree of functional freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion, etc., than I would have in the USA, despite not having the "protection" of the First Amendment. The only downside is that the pay really sucks, to put it mildly. I have been wanting to try and come back to the USA to make a little money for my old age, which is rapidly approaching now. But I really have been given pause about that recently. I am definitely going to wait until after 2016. If Madame Clinton is elected, I may just stay for good, and enjoy my liberty in poverty.

Posted by: Tanarur at July 01, 2015 06:19 PM (zwD8x)

347 This is so silly. "Would consider" is so wide open to interpretation it's meaningless.

Posted by: andrew at July 01, 2015 06:23 PM (XIUCs)

348 Yeah, I'm not seeing many desirable alternatives to the US out there. Costa Rica, maybe?

Posted by: radar at July 01, 2015 06:36 PM (bc0be)

349 326 If it wasn't for Vlad Putin jacking it while dreaming of a vast Russian Empire I would suggest somewhere in Eastern Europe. Yes, the governments are still often largely corrupt and run by the same scumbag communists who were supposedly thrown out of power in '91 but they're still pretty pro-west and freedom. Most have a flat tax. If you aren't in a big city you can avoid the Russian mob.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2015 04:37 PM (39g3+)

I don't live in one of the countries of the former USSR, but in one of the former "fraternal socialist states" of the Warsaw Pact. The economy in general is crap, and contrary to some impressions that Americans have of "Europeans", people work like dogs. I basically have three jobs, plus do some side work off the books to make ends meet. And my wife works even harder than I do. That said, the corruption is no worse than in America these days, and certainly less than in places Like Detroit or Baltimore, for example. But the freedom is pretty amazing. I started making a joke a few years back to my students who wondered why I didn't go back to the USA, since the difference in pay is so great. I would say that as a compensation, I get to say at least one thing a month that would get me fired in the USA. It isn't a joke anymore, and I probably do it daily. The one problem is the language. Not many people are into the Slavic languages, they are pretty far from the Germanic and Latin languages that most Americans might be familiar with. And Hungarian is something completely sui generis.

Posted by: Tanarur at July 01, 2015 06:36 PM (zwD8x)

350 Tried it. Japan told me GTFO.

Posted by: SplatticusFinch at July 01, 2015 06:39 PM (HCkxy)

351 Here's a better question: Why aren't you?

I tried to in High school, I found out it was hard, and I don't have an aptitude for languages.
What? You asked.

That's also why I have a degree in math, and am a programmer.
Do what you're good at, find ways to compensate for what you're not good at.
Not the most noble motto ever, but it works.

Posted by: gekkobear at July 01, 2015 06:45 PM (qu3MM)

352 I've been living overseas, both in the military and as a university academic, pretty much non-stop since 1995--Turkey, Jordan, Dubai, Japan, Korea, Okinawa. I've just been hired as English Department Chair at a state university in North Carolina, and I can't wait to get myself and my family back to the U.S. (My son is 2, was born in Kiev, and has never even been to the U.S.) There really is nowhere better, and nowhere more worth fighting for, and nowhere else I want my son to grow up in.

Posted by: MikeinAmman at July 01, 2015 07:06 PM (Ogdt6)

353 I'm ok with the "millennialist" leaving. Matter of fact I'll volunteer to haul some of them south to Mexico

Posted by: Rick554 at July 01, 2015 08:30 PM (GuV6b)

354 Late to the party, Ace.

Have been involved in the Philippines for 17 years.

You think things are fucked up here?

Trust me. It is more screwed up over there. I can speak enough Bisaya to get around the markets in order to keep those old hags from taking advantage of me!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 01, 2015 10:43 PM (AxDuC)

355
Truth be told. More than once in the past year I've looked at the residency requirements for living in Quebec City.

You think it's cold up here in New Hampshire? Try the St. Lawrence river in January or in frickin April. That's how desperate I am.

However, truth be told, I love the place. It's got French culture with a New World attitude.

There could be worse places to retire to and die.

Branson, Missouri comes to mind. As does Port Amboy, NJ.
I wouldn't last a day in Montgomery county, MD.

Posted by: Levin at July 01, 2015 11:21 PM (9TS9J)

356 My wife and I are checking out. Headed to Costa Rica.

I was in the USN for 25 years as a Russian linguist, on the tip of the spear.

I don't believe for a second that we won the Cold War. While I was mixing it up with the Russians, the commies were infiltrating our schools etc.

They won.

I consider my 25 years a complete waste of my time. If I was 25 again NOW, I would never consider joining the military. I would not want to put my life on the line for many of the citizens of this country.

Posted by: RobertM at July 02, 2015 07:46 AM (gVLvy)

357 Because I already speak one. But study as much as you want, THERE IS NOWHERE LEFT TO RUN. What are you are running from will come to you.

You must stand your ground.

Posted by: Russian at July 02, 2015 11:12 AM (uingK)

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