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Cat's Paw [Weirddave]
In the wake of the SCOTUS decision WRT gay “marriage”, I had a thought. I wondered if the decision was destined to be a gain in the long term for gay folks, or a negative. Thinking it over I came to the conclusion that if the forces that got us to this point are successful, ultimately it'll be a moot decision.
The term “Cat's Paw” entered the English language from a 16th century French Fable, The Monkey and the Cat. A monkey and a cat are sitting before a fireplace, staring longingly at delicious chestnuts roasting in the embers. The monkey convinces the cat to dig the chestnuts out of the fire, promising to share the bounty. The cat does so, but as each chestnut is batted out onto the hearth, the monkey gobbles it up, promising the next one to the cat. Suddenly the maid shoos them both away, leaving the monkey satisfied, his hunger sated, while the cat is left with nothing but burnt paws for his troubles. A “Cat's Paw” then is something or someone used for another's advantage and then discarded once an objective has been achieved. This push for “marriage equality” that we've seen lately has nothing to do with “fairness” or “equality”, and it most certainly is not a response to “oppression”. All of this has been just another arrow in the vast quiver of the totalitarian left aimed at destroying the existing social fabric. You think the Communists, Socialists and Progressives give a rat's ass about the “dignity” of a gay couple? In a pig's eye. All they are concerned with is the destruction of the existing order so it can be replaced with their imaginary Utopia. If the current social order and American culture collapses, one of two movements will fill the vacuum where it once stood, and neither of these movements will likely be friendly to homosexuals. Either the leftists will get their totalitarian state, which will (going by past history) immediately liquidate all of the gay folks they can find in the name of public decency or fighting perversion or some other rot (they always have, can anyone name one totalitarian regime that has NOT clamped down on homosexuality); or the Islamists will come to hold sway. If Radical Islam gains power, gay folks will have bigger things to worry about than same sex marriage. Someone wanting a same sex marriage will find the Imams very willing to hold a ceremony....on a rooftop. The bad news is that the trip to the reception is a short one and it ends abruptly. Given all that, I think the benefits of last week's ruling for gay people will be transient at best, unless we can right the ship of state and reinvigorate American Culture as a source of pride. Hell, if we can accomplish that, gay marriage is a price I'll gladly pay! Open thread until the ONT rolls around.Comments
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When you're first, "Jump to bottom of page" and "Jump to top of page" are essentially the same.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:11 PM (hrKcY)
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Howdy.......
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:12 PM (pCePB)
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Yes, the consequences are bad for them. At the far, far end. By that point, it's pretty bad for everybody.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:12 PM (oVJmc)
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Heh. I somehow double posted an entire thread. That must be some kind of record.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:12 PM (WvS3w)
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There is no way a cat would do all that work for a monkey and not take any themselves...
Posted by: Lea at June 28, 2015 09:13 PM (vmMMi)
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...American Culture
as a source of pride. Hell, if we can accomplish that, gay marriage is a
price I'll gladly pay!
From what I've witnessed so far, I don't think the two can possible coexist.
as a source of pride. Hell, if we can accomplish that, gay marriage is a
price I'll gladly pay!
From what I've witnessed so far, I don't think the two can possible coexist.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM (Dwehj)
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Nice essay, WD!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM (EzgxV)
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Bad tines are most likely.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:15 PM (pCePB)
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1. It was never about homosexuals; it was sticking it to Christian Americans. The queers were just being used as political pawns.
2. Of course it's bad for the perverts. They are sick and need help not enabling.
1. It was never about homosexuals; it was sticking it to Christian Americans. The queers were just being used as political pawns.
2. Of course it's bad for the perverts. They are sick and need help not enabling.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:15 PM (5jPLo)
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When you're first, "Jump to bottom of page" and "Jump to top of page" are essentially the same.
Feature, not a bug.
Feature, not a bug.
Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 28, 2015 09:16 PM (Dwehj)
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Once the masks come off, shit starts moving a whole lot faster, too. And the faster a thing moves, the longer it takes to slow it down enough to turn it around, unless it stops abruptly, which is never good.
Posted by: holygoat at June 28, 2015 09:16 PM (JjrGu)
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Nice essay, WD!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM
________
His always are.
Must appreciated, weirddave!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM
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His always are.
Must appreciated, weirddave!
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:17 PM (hrKcY)
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" Once the masks come off, shit starts moving a whole lot faster, too. And the faster a thing moves, the longer it takes to slow it down enough to turn it around, unless it stops abruptly, which is never go"
A world of shit is great for the left.
A world of shit is great for the left.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:18 PM (pCePB)
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The masks are dropping.
The left hates us and wants us imprisoned or dead. It is becoming more and more obvious.
The left hates us and wants us imprisoned or dead. It is becoming more and more obvious.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 09:19 PM (F0Cog)
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"Feature, not a bug."
Well, yeah - of course it is.
It's just that it was a first for me and it was like going through the wormhole. (Without Morgan Freeman, that is.)
Well, yeah - of course it is.
It's just that it was a first for me and it was like going through the wormhole. (Without Morgan Freeman, that is.)
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:19 PM (hrKcY)
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Progressives, socialists, Democrats, Communists, or whatever you want to call them no more give a rat's ass about homosexuals than they do the environment, or women's issues, or minorities, or Muslims, or the "poor," or indeed anything else. They are all solely vehicles for agitation among the dumb asses.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:19 PM (oKE6c)
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One unintended consequence may be the loss of benefits for same sex couples from employers.
Large companies accommodated gay couples by allowing employees to put a partner on a policy even though they were not married. It was a nice accommodation for those who could not tie the knot.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
Perhaps we will see the end of "Domestic Partner" benefits.
Some couples may be forced to marry even though they don't want to.
They had it pretty good.
Large companies accommodated gay couples by allowing employees to put a partner on a policy even though they were not married. It was a nice accommodation for those who could not tie the knot.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
Perhaps we will see the end of "Domestic Partner" benefits.
Some couples may be forced to marry even though they don't want to.
They had it pretty good.
Posted by: Patrick Albanese at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (MBmYs)
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Nah....this makes too much sense....too logical.
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (j7iSn)
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"If Radical Islam gains power, gay folks will have bigger things to worry about..........
They can't think that far ahead or even see the writing on the wall.
Wait until the first terror attack on a homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
They can't think that far ahead or even see the writing on the wall.
Wait until the first terror attack on a homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
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Many of the masks came off last week. Unfortunately, we're in store for a lot more uncovering before it's all said and done.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Dwehj)
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There is no way a cat would do all that work for a monkey and not take any themselves...
Posted by: Lea at June 28, 2015 09:13 PM
________
Also: Cats have claws.
Posted by: Lea at June 28, 2015 09:13 PM
________
Also: Cats have claws.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hrKcY)
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Once the masks come off, shit starts moving a whole
lot faster, too. And the faster a thing moves, the longer it takes to
slow it down enough to turn it around, unless it stops abruptly, which
is never good.
Posted by: holygoat at June 28, 2015 09:16 PM (JjrGu)
Tell me about it.
lot faster, too. And the faster a thing moves, the longer it takes to
slow it down enough to turn it around, unless it stops abruptly, which
is never good.
Posted by: holygoat at June 28, 2015 09:16 PM (JjrGu)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Zombie Salvador Allende at June 28, 2015 09:21 PM (oKE6c)
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Why not more of a "Brave New World" type dystopia? Hordes of people seeking pleasure and sensation, no longer tethered to anything meaningful, or of substance? Just because prior versions of totalitarianism ended up attempting to liquidate homosexuals, that does not mean that Fascism, American style, will be the same way.
The endgame for the left is when they have splintered everyone into competing victim groups and the victim groups have nowhere left to turn but against each other. (The other endgame is fiscal collapse as we find ourselves in a position where we can no longer pay for the left's social redistributions).
The endgame for the left is when they have splintered everyone into competing victim groups and the victim groups have nowhere left to turn but against each other. (The other endgame is fiscal collapse as we find ourselves in a position where we can no longer pay for the left's social redistributions).
Posted by: Revenant at June 28, 2015 09:21 PM (y64uP)
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Hell, if we can accomplish that, gay marriage is a price I'll gladly pay!
We were hoping you'd say that!
We were hoping you'd say that!
Posted by: Pedophilia, incest, and polygamy at June 28, 2015 09:22 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 09:22 PM (Dwehj)
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I guess the Soviet Union and Cuba are big on gay rights?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:22 PM (pCePB)
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From what I've witnessed so far, I don't think the two can possible coexist.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM (Dwehj)
I don't know why anyone would think they could.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 09:14 PM (Dwehj)
I don't know why anyone would think they could.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 28, 2015 09:23 PM (nRvEn)
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1. It was never about homosexuals; it was sticking
it to Christian Americans undermining American society.
FIFY.
it to Christian Americans
FIFY.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:23 PM (oKE6c)
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Damn.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:23 PM (oKE6c)
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26 I guess the Soviet Union and Cuba are big on gay rights?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:22 PM (pCePB)
Castro famously threw shirtlifters into prison.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:22 PM (pCePB)
Castro famously threw shirtlifters into prison.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (oKE6c)
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The problem with the left is that they have to drop us into crap to achieve their dreamed-of utopia fast enough that no organized resistance has a chance to form.....but slow enough that their tools and resources (academia, the MSM, the bureaucracy, the courts, civilian control of the military....) continue to function properly. Once a certain level of crap is reached, the effectiveness of their greatest assets will be plunging along with civil order.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (EzgxV)
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23 Revenant
Where will the next generation's money come from. We need wealth producers to outnumber the parasites. Trend lines do not look good.
Where will the next generation's money come from. We need wealth producers to outnumber the parasites. Trend lines do not look good.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (u82oZ)
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On the "news" today there was a very short blurb about a shooting at a "pride" event, but the tv told me that the shooting had noting to do with the event.
So that tells me what? That the shooting was done by blacks and the TV didn't want to mention it, or the shooting was done by a doubly-deranged homosexual and the TV didn't want to tell me.
On the "news" today there was a very short blurb about a shooting at a "pride" event, but the tv told me that the shooting had noting to do with the event.
So that tells me what? That the shooting was done by blacks and the TV didn't want to mention it, or the shooting was done by a doubly-deranged homosexual and the TV didn't want to tell me.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (5jPLo)
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14: So be it. i'll take a few on my way out. Whatever. Don't really care anymore. Looking forward to it.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (ucDmr)
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@23 Why not more of a "Brave New World" type dystopia? Hordes of people seeking pleasure and sensation, no longer tethered to anything meaningful, or of substance? Just because prior versions of totalitarianism ended up attempting to liquidate homosexuals, that does not mean that Fascism, American style, will be the same way.
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While I think the Brave New World dystopia is the one more likely in the end, that form of dystopia requires no external enemy. Until groups like ISIS are dealt with, the BNW dystopia can't take root.
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While I think the Brave New World dystopia is the one more likely in the end, that form of dystopia requires no external enemy. Until groups like ISIS are dealt with, the BNW dystopia can't take root.
Posted by: junior at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (s1zlc)
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Brave New World. that's what it will be (is?)
then again, if Science creates the posthuman, maybe we will rapidly not really need reproduction, which means marriage (which exists to raise human children, really) won't be needed, either?
Events! they just keep happening
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
then again, if Science creates the posthuman, maybe we will rapidly not really need reproduction, which means marriage (which exists to raise human children, really) won't be needed, either?
Events! they just keep happening
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (eR2aG)
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What are you trying to say, Jay?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:25 PM (pCePB)
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One unintended consequence may be the loss of benefits for same sex couples from employers.
Large companies accommodated gay couples by allowing employees to put a partner on a policy even though they were not married. It was a nice accommodation for those who could not tie the knot.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
Perhaps we will see the end of "Domestic Partner" benefits.
Some couples may be forced to marry even though they don't want to.
They had it pretty good.
I would think that companies that do not change their policy on that and fast will be ripe for sex discrimination lawsuits. The domestic partnership stuff was proffered as makeup for the fact that same sex couples could not marry.
But now they can. So if a company is offering the benefit to same sex unmarrieds only, they are discriminating against heterosexuals.
And I am pretty sure there are heterosexuals who have lawyers, too.
Large companies accommodated gay couples by allowing employees to put a partner on a policy even though they were not married. It was a nice accommodation for those who could not tie the knot.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
Perhaps we will see the end of "Domestic Partner" benefits.
Some couples may be forced to marry even though they don't want to.
They had it pretty good.
I would think that companies that do not change their policy on that and fast will be ripe for sex discrimination lawsuits. The domestic partnership stuff was proffered as makeup for the fact that same sex couples could not marry.
But now they can. So if a company is offering the benefit to same sex unmarrieds only, they are discriminating against heterosexuals.
And I am pretty sure there are heterosexuals who have lawyers, too.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2015 09:25 PM (2Ocf1)
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Eh. I don't care much about ghey marriage, or whatever they want to call it.
I'm more concerned about the decision that says that the Feds can force low income housing into middle-class neighborhoods. That is guaranteed to increase crime and violence in places that have not known it.
Because fuck you, Whitey.
I'm more concerned about the decision that says that the Feds can force low income housing into middle-class neighborhoods. That is guaranteed to increase crime and violence in places that have not known it.
Because fuck you, Whitey.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2015 09:25 PM (sdi6R)
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I was actually thinking along these same lines today.
This is a very transitory victory for the gays considering how socialism has left the entire Western world teetering on 'bankruptcy' (or whatever happens) and how much of the Western world has a large barbaric parasite class whose goodies are about to be taken away.
I thought of their gay marriage victory as a football caught high in the air by the gay football player who suddenly finds the earth opened up beneath him leaving him no time to enjoy his 'victory.'
This is a very transitory victory for the gays considering how socialism has left the entire Western world teetering on 'bankruptcy' (or whatever happens) and how much of the Western world has a large barbaric parasite class whose goodies are about to be taken away.
I thought of their gay marriage victory as a football caught high in the air by the gay football player who suddenly finds the earth opened up beneath him leaving him no time to enjoy his 'victory.'
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (AC0lD)
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I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
You really think so? You're not just saying that to cheer me up?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
You really think so? You're not just saying that to cheer me up?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (oKE6c)
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The "masks" were made of transparent material hiding nothing. There were merely eyes which refused to see.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (W5DcG)
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19 "If Radical Islam gains power, gay folks will have bigger things to worry about..........
They can't think that far ahead or even see the writing on the wall.
Wait until the first terror attack on a homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
Well, unless they get an IED going in the next 5-1/2 hours, they'll have missed out on SF Pride 2015.
They can't think that far ahead or even see the writing on the wall.
Wait until the first terror attack on a homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
Well, unless they get an IED going in the next 5-1/2 hours, they'll have missed out on SF Pride 2015.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (EzgxV)
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So in essence, gay marriage is basically gun registry.
Just makes it easier to come and pick them up.
Just makes it easier to come and pick them up.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at June 28, 2015 09:27 PM (BZAd3)
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If the GOP had not rolled over like pussies every time a Leftist SCOTUS nominee had come before the Senate the last several decades, America would not be in this mess. Fucktards...
Posted by: Jooosboy at June 28, 2015 09:27 PM (WUuhi)
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Also: Cats have claws.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hrKcY)
So do monkeys:
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103359/april-fools
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hrKcY)
So do monkeys:
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103359/april-fools
Posted by: Terrance at June 28, 2015 09:27 PM (z0HrT)
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I'm more concerned about the decision that says that the Feds can force low income housing into middle-class neighborhoods. That is guaranteed to increase crime and violence in places that have not known it.
That to me was the worst decision, rickl
We're not talking about it, or we're saying "oh Obama will put section 8 in liberal enclaves" - BS
He will be SURE to put the section 8 in conservative enclaves. don't think they can't target that way. the feds will punish the wrong-thinking
That to me was the worst decision, rickl
We're not talking about it, or we're saying "oh Obama will put section 8 in liberal enclaves" - BS
He will be SURE to put the section 8 in conservative enclaves. don't think they can't target that way. the feds will punish the wrong-thinking
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:27 PM (eR2aG)
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...can anyone name one totalitarian regime that has NOT clamped down on homosexuality[?]
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You've apparently never tried to get a Broadway play produced.
But, seriously, folks...
Sodom. You know, where the word "sodomy" comes from.
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You've apparently never tried to get a Broadway play produced.
But, seriously, folks...
Sodom. You know, where the word "sodomy" comes from.
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 09:28 PM (7BAzF)
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Well I don't think I would go THAT far. Mostly because I think it gives them too much credit. Most of them are too stupid to see the implications of what they support, even the easily predictable short-term implications. Remember that this is the crowd that gets their news from Jon Stewart, and who thinks that Rachel Maddow is an "objective journalist" (yes one of them actually said that to me). They are narrow-sighted and support what "feels right" to them. So I fully expect them to start forcing Christian churches to perform gay weddings, but it won't be out of some revolutionary spirit to undermine Western civilization, it will be because "the hetero couples get to use a pretty church for their wedding but the gay couple has to settle for a cheap ceremony at the county clerk's office, that just doesn't FEEL right to me"
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 09:28 PM (+4mdw)
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I'm more concerned about the decision that says that the Feds can force low income housing into middle-class neighborhoods. That is guaranteed to increase crime and violence in places that have not known it.
Because fuck you, Whitey.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2015 09:25 PM (sdi6R)
Think of it as providing a game preserve for the bruthas.
Because fuck you, Whitey.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2015 09:25 PM (sdi6R)
Think of it as providing a game preserve for the bruthas.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:28 PM (oKE6c)
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Lot's wife really missed the old place. After all, it's tough to just walk out of a city with such a vibrant culture and so many friendly people.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 09:28 PM (Q819Q)
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Oh, smalldeadanimals had a print screen showing of an ISIS flag at a gay pride event shown on CNN.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (AC0lD)
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"Well, unless they get an IED going in the next 5-1/2 hours, they'll have missed out on SF Pride 2015."
Can I say what I want or do I have to be peaceable here?
Can I say what I want or do I have to be peaceable here?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (pCePB)
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eh I dream of a day where two people can live together and everybody else figures its nobody's business if they are sisters, brothers, gay couple, or a hetero couple, brother and sister just sharing expenses yada yada.
Gay is a perversion only because hetero sex is needed for any species to survive IMO. But it has always been part of humankind and when we are fruitful enough in general it is no skin off my nose.
Now the current push by the *tree huggers* oof I need a better term.; to severely limit human reproduction by doing their best to convince impressionable young minds that it is more cool to be gay or trans or what have you - that is a real and dangerous perversion to me.
Gay is a perversion only because hetero sex is needed for any species to survive IMO. But it has always been part of humankind and when we are fruitful enough in general it is no skin off my nose.
Now the current push by the *tree huggers* oof I need a better term.; to severely limit human reproduction by doing their best to convince impressionable young minds that it is more cool to be gay or trans or what have you - that is a real and dangerous perversion to me.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (iA/+T)
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36 Brave New World. that's what it will be (is?)
then again, if Science creates the posthuman, maybe we will rapidly not really need reproduction, which means marriage (which exists to raise human children, really) won't be needed, either?
Events! they just keep happening
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (eR2aG)
You're significantly more decorative....
then again, if Science creates the posthuman, maybe we will rapidly not really need reproduction, which means marriage (which exists to raise human children, really) won't be needed, either?
Events! they just keep happening
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:24 PM (eR2aG)
You're significantly more decorative....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (EzgxV)
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Yes, the consequences are bad for them. At the far, far end. By that point, it's pretty bad for everybody.
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I WANT CANDY FOR BREAKFAST AND YOU ARE A FASCIST MEANIE IF YOU DON'T LET ME HAVE IT!!!! AND DOWN WITH HETERONORMATIVE TOOTH BRUSHING!
What the hell is a cavity anyway?
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I WANT CANDY FOR BREAKFAST AND YOU ARE A FASCIST MEANIE IF YOU DON'T LET ME HAVE IT!!!! AND DOWN WITH HETERONORMATIVE TOOTH BRUSHING!
What the hell is a cavity anyway?
Posted by: Some spoiled SJW toddler at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (5LOno)
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Gay identity is valuable because it gets used to split apart current society.
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
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Years of the GOP putting judges on the SC have accomplished nothing. I think it's time we sit out the 2016 election. Let the Repubs get creamed.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (nRvEn)
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Oh, smalldeadanimals had a print screen showing of an ISIS flag at a gay pride event shown on CNN.
Well, they have LOTS in common. Both groups hate the USA, Christians, and Jews.
Oh, smalldeadanimals had a print screen showing of an ISIS flag at a gay pride event shown on CNN.
Well, they have LOTS in common. Both groups hate the USA, Christians, and Jews.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (5jPLo)
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (eR2aG)
61
Just got back and noticed the gun thread. Much shit will be given in the office tomorrow now that Cliff is famous with the Horde.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (nL0sw)
62
Well, unless they get an IED going in the next 5-1/2 hours, they'll have missed out on SF Pride 2015.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (EzgxV)
Advertise Prophet Mohammad dildos for SF Pride 2016.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:26 PM (EzgxV)
Advertise Prophet Mohammad dildos for SF Pride 2016.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (AC0lD)
63
The islam would be worse for homosexuals than for a plain old infidel like me. The islam will just kill me once but not until after I put up a fight. The islam will first do the homosexual in the butt and then kill them. This is after the lib/progs surrender America and civilization to the caliphate. There you go. Life made simple.
Posted by: Eromero at June 28, 2015 09:31 PM (go5uR)
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Oh, smalldeadanimals had a print screen showing of an ISIS flag at a gay pride event shown on CNN.
Except that it was a sex toy flag and not an ISIS flag.
Except that it was a sex toy flag and not an ISIS flag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:31 PM (W5DcG)
65
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
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As an interesting question, what happens to gender relations when the Japanese perfect their sexbots?
Yeah you should prefer a real live human being, but as modern left wing thought tells us you shouldn't have to sacrifice ANYTHING for anyone else...certainly not a romantic partner...
Women should be worried tho. We're not actually all that useful without the procreation part, being completely honest here.
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As an interesting question, what happens to gender relations when the Japanese perfect their sexbots?
Yeah you should prefer a real live human being, but as modern left wing thought tells us you shouldn't have to sacrifice ANYTHING for anyone else...certainly not a romantic partner...
Posted by: Things that make you go hmmm at June 28, 2015 09:31 PM (5LOno)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (oKE6c)
67
"You really think so? You're not just saying that to cheer me up?"
Within a year. Either here or in Britain.
Within a year. Either here or in Britain.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (C8x6r)
68
The islam would be worse for homosexuals than for a plain old infidel like me.
Oh well. That's their problem, now. Fuck em.
The islam would be worse for homosexuals than for a plain old infidel like me.
Oh well. That's their problem, now. Fuck em.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (5jPLo)
69
For all the vitriol I've seen in my FB page has been the gheys and libertarians high fiving themselves and screeching about how evil Christians were hating on them... and no mention of Islam, or how Sharia Law looks at ghey marriage, etc. It's all juvenile attacking Christians and the Church and bible-belt rednecks. This will not turn out well. Be careful what you wish for. Well, they got it by 5 unelected judges that are beyond accountability... now for the unintended consequences.
Posted by: Yip at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (e7T6D)
70
Being a good boy.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (pCePB)
71
" Once the masks come off, shit starts moving a whole lot faster, too. And the faster a thing moves, the longer it takes to slow it down enough to turn it around, unless it stops abruptly, which is never go"
A world of shit is great for the left.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:18 PM (pCePB)
We've reached a tipping point where if the LIVs were offered the "utopia" that the Proggies think they are creating, they'd vote for it.
A world of shit is great for the left.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:18 PM (pCePB)
We've reached a tipping point where if the LIVs were offered the "utopia" that the Proggies think they are creating, they'd vote for it.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (7YlUk)
72
Man, all the Republicans and trans-conservatives, who over the last decade avowed that gay marriage by judicial fiat was no threat to society, have spent the last 48 hours saying, well --- of course it's going to destroy traditional marriage and lead to polygamy and god knows what else, but what ya gonna do now?
NR, HotAir and Team Republican twitter feeds have been infuriating.
Man, all the Republicans and trans-conservatives, who over the last decade avowed that gay marriage by judicial fiat was no threat to society, have spent the last 48 hours saying, well --- of course it's going to destroy traditional marriage and lead to polygamy and god knows what else, but what ya gonna do now?
NR, HotAir and Team Republican twitter feeds have been infuriating.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (kdS6q)
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Oh, smalldeadanimals had a print screen showing of an ISIS flag at a gay pride event shown on CNN.
Well, they have LOTS in common. Both groups hate the USA, Christians, and Jews.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (5jPLo)
Wasn't an ISIS flag. It was a dildo flag.
Well, they have LOTS in common. Both groups hate the USA, Christians, and Jews.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:30 PM (5jPLo)
Wasn't an ISIS flag. It was a dildo flag.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (BVDFs)
74
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
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What do you mean? My good friend Adolf is a big supporter of gay rights!
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What do you mean? My good friend Adolf is a big supporter of gay rights!
Posted by: Ernst Rohm at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (5LOno)
75
In the past two weeks the US Supreme Court declared that Jerusalem was not only not the capital of Israel, but not even part of Israel (that didn't get much coverage), that the words by the states really means any old thing you want, and that you are a hater and because of that, they will force you to accept gay marriage.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (2Ocf1)
76
"On the 'news' today there was a very short blurb about a shooting at a 'pride' event, but the tv told me that the shooting had noting to do
with the event."
There have been freakouts about "homophobic attacks" on large public gay events in SF for as long as I can remember.
The absolutely overwhelming majority of these have turned out to be just the customary violent disagreements between local effnik yoof. This latest instance being typical.
with the event."
There have been freakouts about "homophobic attacks" on large public gay events in SF for as long as I can remember.
The absolutely overwhelming majority of these have turned out to be just the customary violent disagreements between local effnik yoof. This latest instance being typical.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (noWW6)
77
21
There is no way a cat would do all that work for a monkey and not take any themselves...
Posted by: Lea at June 28, 2015 09:13 PM
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Also: Cats have claws.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hrKcY)
Take it up with Jean de La Fontaine.
21
There is no way a cat would do all that work for a monkey and not take any themselves...
Posted by: Lea at June 28, 2015 09:13 PM
________
Also: Cats have claws.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hrKcY)
Take it up with Jean de La Fontaine.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (WvS3w)
78
I was opposed to paying reparations to blacks over slavery but after reading Jeffrey Lord's article on the American Spectator today, I'm all for sticking the Democratic party for these reparations.
Only the Democratic party, too. They are still around and they are culpable for these crimes. Too effing bad if Obama, Hillary! and Co. don't like it. $1 trillion ought to do.
Only the Democratic party, too. They are still around and they are culpable for these crimes. Too effing bad if Obama, Hillary! and Co. don't like it. $1 trillion ought to do.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 09:34 PM (dboyw)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (5jPLo)
80
Gay identity is valuable because it gets used to split apart current society.
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
Just till the "Night of the Long Dildos."
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
Just till the "Night of the Long Dildos."
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (nL0sw)
81
Funny that the same 14th Amendment that means you MUST treat the gheys the same doesn't strike down Affirmative Action for treating groups different.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (oVJmc)
82
Just wait, that is...
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (nL0sw)
83
Here is just one example. I just had a discussion with them on another forum about taxing the churches. They are fully on board with taxing the churches, because they think the megachurches and the TV preachers are up to no good, and ought to either be punished via taxation, or taxed like businesses for that reason. It was obvious that they hadn't given a moment's thought to why churches have had tax exemptions throughout the centuries, that those times when the civil authority tried to tax the churches, it wasn't out of some altruistic desire to treat them fairly but instead was used as a tool to suppress the free exercise of religion, that churches really do engage in charitable work and for that reason alone they deserve tax exemption. They weren't having a word of it, and because they have never examined their own biases or even thought critically about an issue, they just assume they're right and everyone else is wrong. It is depressing.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (+4mdw)
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"Except that it was a sex toy flag and not an ISIS flag."
Correct. However that can possibly be construed as "hate speech" under British law.
I do believe one immammy has already complained about that flag.
Correct. However that can possibly be construed as "hate speech" under British law.
I do believe one immammy has already complained about that flag.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (C8x6r)
85
I've suggested to several cheerleader types this weekend, that they should ponder what they are advocating for since the, allegedly, dreaded Victorians didn't come about happenstance... they were a direct retaliation of the debauchery of the Regency period... leftward slouching continues until a younger generation grows disgusted with it. You are sort of seeing that starting with abortion now.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (39FGM)
86
the 14th Amendment is Magic.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (eR2aG)
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (dboyw)
88
If gay is also genetic and people are 'born that way', keep in mind with the advances in technology, scientists may find the gene(s) that cause homosexuality, preferably under the pretext of trying to identify transgenders in the womb.
At that point, how many societies would implement genetic testing in the womb and either abort or 'fix' the children?
To make society less bitchy, I'd pay for the tests.
At that point, how many societies would implement genetic testing in the womb and either abort or 'fix' the children?
To make society less bitchy, I'd pay for the tests.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (AC0lD)
89
The islam would be worse for homosexuals than for a plain old infidel like me.
***
I do wonder if there is much point anymore in fighting the left to oppose Salafism?
Yes it is a horrible, authoritarian ideology, but we've got one of those running our government now anyway which is currently a much greater threat.
There will be Christians in jail, for following Christianity, within 5 years in America.
***
I do wonder if there is much point anymore in fighting the left to oppose Salafism?
Yes it is a horrible, authoritarian ideology, but we've got one of those running our government now anyway which is currently a much greater threat.
There will be Christians in jail, for following Christianity, within 5 years in America.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (5LOno)
90
"of course it's going to destroy traditional marriage and lead to polygamy and god knows what else, but what ya gonna do now?"
I'll just cynically point out here that the popular culture and the welfare state had been doing a quite remarkable job of destroying traditional marriage well before the Roberts Court stepped in.
I'll just cynically point out here that the popular culture and the welfare state had been doing a quite remarkable job of destroying traditional marriage well before the Roberts Court stepped in.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (noWW6)
91
"We've reached a tipping point where if the LIVs were offered the "utopia" that the Proggies think they are creating, they'd vote for it."
They live subservinance. I do not. Neither do you, Hat.
They live subservinance. I do not. Neither do you, Hat.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (pCePB)
92
Catspaw, or just pawns?
In chess, pawns can be sacrificed to get strategic position on the board for checkmate.
Our culture, whether it be the traditional or the more vulgar "popular" culture has a structure. The pop culture is transient, and what was in style a few years ago, will be passe' in 5 years.
Part of the pop culture of the 60's was the angry black militant, the Black Panthers, etc. One of the prime examples of this was Eldridge Cleaver, who wrote "Soul on Ice". I actually read part of this book (he was a pretty violent and disturbed guy). Cleaver went into self-imposed exile outside of the US, and spent a lot of time in the Leftist totalitarian states, and began to change his mind about a lot of things. When he returned to the US, he began to repent of his earlier madness (mainly, he was older and was tired of running). Before he died, he really came to regret a lot of what he did and wrote.
So whatever you may think of the protagonists of modern pop vulgar culture today, some of these morons may change in the years to come. You can't count on it, but nothing is written in stone.
The thing to watch in the next five years is the penetration of militant Islam into the Inner Cities, which are ripe for angry revolution against the White Man. This will also be fed by the arrival of the Mexican immigrant (largely mystical Catholics) competing with the young African American for the entry level jobs
In chess, pawns can be sacrificed to get strategic position on the board for checkmate.
Our culture, whether it be the traditional or the more vulgar "popular" culture has a structure. The pop culture is transient, and what was in style a few years ago, will be passe' in 5 years.
Part of the pop culture of the 60's was the angry black militant, the Black Panthers, etc. One of the prime examples of this was Eldridge Cleaver, who wrote "Soul on Ice". I actually read part of this book (he was a pretty violent and disturbed guy). Cleaver went into self-imposed exile outside of the US, and spent a lot of time in the Leftist totalitarian states, and began to change his mind about a lot of things. When he returned to the US, he began to repent of his earlier madness (mainly, he was older and was tired of running). Before he died, he really came to regret a lot of what he did and wrote.
So whatever you may think of the protagonists of modern pop vulgar culture today, some of these morons may change in the years to come. You can't count on it, but nothing is written in stone.
The thing to watch in the next five years is the penetration of militant Islam into the Inner Cities, which are ripe for angry revolution against the White Man. This will also be fed by the arrival of the Mexican immigrant (largely mystical Catholics) competing with the young African American for the entry level jobs
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (+1T7c)
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>>Given all that, I think the benefits of last week's ruling for gay people will be transient at best, unless we can right the ship of state and reinvigorate American Culture
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Can I have some of that positive shit you're smoking?
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Can I have some of that positive shit you're smoking?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (Xehhp)
94
Gay identity is valuable because it gets used to split apart current society.
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
They will get around this the same way all other totalitarian regimes have: By having everyone unify in hate for an enemy.
The Jacobins had the church & nobles.
The Soviets had the Kulaks
The NAZIs had the Jews.
The Proggies have "Kyriarchy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
When the Left's power is consolidated, differing identities become problematic because, again, they are separating and the Left does not want its new society split.
Division is good for them now, bad for them later.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
They will get around this the same way all other totalitarian regimes have: By having everyone unify in hate for an enemy.
The Jacobins had the church & nobles.
The Soviets had the Kulaks
The NAZIs had the Jews.
The Proggies have "Kyriarchy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:37 PM (7YlUk)
95
I'll just cynically point out here that the popular culture and the welfare state had been doing a quite remarkable job of destroying traditional marriage
and creating de facto polygamy!
and creating de facto polygamy!
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:37 PM (eR2aG)
96
What difference does it make?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (5jPLo)
The dildos were not shaped like goats.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (5jPLo)
The dildos were not shaped like goats.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 09:37 PM (BVDFs)
97
67 "You really think so? You're not just saying that to cheer me up?"
Within a year. Either here or in Britain.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (C8x6r)
Somehow, I could just hear ISIL taunting (in the voice of https://youtu.be/NwwY9y6O3hw ) -- "Infidels, protect your gays...."
Within a year. Either here or in Britain.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:32 PM (C8x6r)
Somehow, I could just hear ISIL taunting (in the voice of https://youtu.be/NwwY9y6O3hw ) -- "Infidels, protect your gays...."
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:37 PM (EzgxV)
98
Crispr technology is coming...
Posted by: scrood at June 28, 2015 09:38 PM (3b9U4)
99
Now that we're approaching peak licentiousness, we just need another HIV-like zoonosis to jump the species barrier, and there won't be an interior decorator left in America.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:38 PM (oKE6c)
100
"Funny that the same 14th Amendment that means you MUST treat the gheys
the same doesn't strike down Affirmative Action for treating groups
different."
Oh. Yeah. That's our beat.
the same doesn't strike down Affirmative Action for treating groups
different."
Oh. Yeah. That's our beat.
Posted by: Emanations and Penumbras at June 28, 2015 09:38 PM (noWW6)
101
It's also worth noting that the "commoners" that didn't really feel invested much one way or another will eventually figure out that they were lied to in regards to the gay rhetoric...and be none too pleased with it.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 09:38 PM (39FGM)
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"Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (+4mdw)"
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I've tried the same thing with them. I've explained to them that they would be shutting down Catholic schools in the inner city, thus depriving many poor blacks a chance at a good education.
These white leftists are unmoved by this argument. They'll happily and eagerly stick it to the blacks, even when informed of this.
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I've tried the same thing with them. I've explained to them that they would be shutting down Catholic schools in the inner city, thus depriving many poor blacks a chance at a good education.
These white leftists are unmoved by this argument. They'll happily and eagerly stick it to the blacks, even when informed of this.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (dboyw)
103
93: Must be some good chit. Chong is probably jealous.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (ucDmr)
104
One of those trillion dollar coins ought to take care of the reparations.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (W5DcG)
105
if gay is also genetic and people are 'born that way
***
The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
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The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (5LOno)
106
The aggressive agitation of the leftist keyboard warrior is the backbone of this movement...the safety afforded by anonymity allows pathetic little sniveling assholes the comfort reality would not allow!
Posted by: tbd at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (UhiWu)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (pCePB)
108
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
they're insufferable about it in a way that actual Gays decidedly are not.
my inkling is it's mainly because they kind of hate straight men. who now ignore their existence
they're insufferable about it in a way that actual Gays decidedly are not.
my inkling is it's mainly because they kind of hate straight men. who now ignore their existence
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (eR2aG)
109
I'll just cynically point out here that the popular
culture and the welfare state had been doing a quite remarkable job of
destroying traditional marriage well before the Roberts Court stepped
in.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (noWW6)
I keep waiting for ISIS/al Qaeda to go after Hollywood, say at the Academy Awards. I would cry myself to sleep if that happened.
culture and the welfare state had been doing a quite remarkable job of
destroying traditional marriage well before the Roberts Court stepped
in.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 09:36 PM (noWW6)
I keep waiting for ISIS/al Qaeda to go after Hollywood, say at the Academy Awards. I would cry myself to sleep if that happened.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:40 PM (oKE6c)
110
AMC's "Humans" doesn't seem the gambling strippers I'd hoped it would be.
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 28, 2015 09:40 PM (jT+gh)
111
Except that it was a sex toy flag and not an ISIS flag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:31 PM (W5DcG)
That was my mistake. I'm sorry. Thanks for the correction.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:31 PM (W5DcG)
That was my mistake. I'm sorry. Thanks for the correction.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:40 PM (AC0lD)
112
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 09:35 PM (+4mdw)
The ones leading the charge though know exactly that taxing the churches is an attempt to kill them. But it won't be all churches. It will be the ones that don't tow the line on homosexuality and other Leftist causes. The courts will back them up too.
The ones leading the charge though know exactly that taxing the churches is an attempt to kill them. But it won't be all churches. It will be the ones that don't tow the line on homosexuality and other Leftist causes. The courts will back them up too.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 28, 2015 09:40 PM (nRvEn)
113
but it won't be out of some revolutionary spirit to undermine Western civilization, it will be because "the hetero couples get to use a pretty church for their wedding but the gay couple has to settle for a cheap ceremony at the county clerk's office, that just doesn't FEEL right to me"
I don't think they're aware of the motive behind the motive IYKWIM, hence "cat's paw".
I don't think they're aware of the motive behind the motive IYKWIM, hence "cat's paw".
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:41 PM (WvS3w)
114
96: Goat shaped dildos. Note to self, call plastic mold die makers, stat.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
115
of course it's going to destroy traditional marriage and lead to polygamy and god knows what else, but what ya gonna do now?"
***
The modern enlightened woman is actually rather supportive of informal polygamy.
Better to be the rich guy's booty call then Mr Average's wife. I mean like he is SOOOOOO boring. I CAN'T EVEN!
***
The modern enlightened woman is actually rather supportive of informal polygamy.
Better to be the rich guy's booty call then Mr Average's wife. I mean like he is SOOOOOO boring. I CAN'T EVEN!
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:42 PM (5LOno)
116
107 Holy shit, this is wilder than the ONT.
"POW" "BOP"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28
Ka-Boom
"POW" "BOP"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28
Ka-Boom
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 09:42 PM (Xehhp)
117
(The other endgame is fiscal collapse as we find ourselves in a
position where we can no longer pay for the left's social
redistributions).
You can always charge one group more tax than another for redistro (to the later), sometimes even a 100% wealth tax.
position where we can no longer pay for the left's social
redistributions).
You can always charge one group more tax than another for redistro (to the later), sometimes even a 100% wealth tax.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 09:42 PM (NaeCR)
118
". Either the leftists will get their totalitarian state...or the Islamists will come to hold sway."
Secession and regionalism are more likely. Remember they declare that 20 million rebels are too many to prosecute. They also declare that being American is different and contrary to being a Christian.
Secession and regionalism are more likely. Remember they declare that 20 million rebels are too many to prosecute. They also declare that being American is different and contrary to being a Christian.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 28, 2015 09:42 PM (8rRE+)
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Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (eR2aG)
I think it's all the Feels involved.
Rooting for the underdog. They remember the gay guy in high school who was constantly being beat up, their hairdresser, their gay nephew, etc. Being part of a huge movement, kind of like why they voted for Obama.
I think it's all the Feels involved.
Rooting for the underdog. They remember the gay guy in high school who was constantly being beat up, their hairdresser, their gay nephew, etc. Being part of a huge movement, kind of like why they voted for Obama.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 09:43 PM (BVDFs)
120
What can't last won't.
Some old dead white guy said that. I think. Must make me a h8ter for knowing that quote and ignorant because I don't know by who.
Some old dead white guy said that. I think. Must make me a h8ter for knowing that quote and ignorant because I don't know by who.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois An ignorant h8ter at June 28, 2015 09:43 PM (GoyxN)
121
"can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage? "
They want to be a fag hag...seriously. They think it's vicarious romance, and imasculating all at the same time.
See the phenomena of "Slash lit".
They want to be a fag hag...seriously. They think it's vicarious romance, and imasculating all at the same time.
See the phenomena of "Slash lit".
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 09:43 PM (39FGM)
122
Yeah FB fascists are feeling super empowered now. They want to tax the churches. No particular reason why.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (2Ocf1)
123
105 if gay is also genetic and people are 'born that way
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The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (5LOno)
My guess: it's the result of a genetic predisposition to a flaw in pre-natal development, such as hypo- or hyposensitivity to intrauterine testosterone. If so, it's not strictly genetic, but would be more akin to variations in breast size in women.
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The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:39 PM (5LOno)
My guess: it's the result of a genetic predisposition to a flaw in pre-natal development, such as hypo- or hyposensitivity to intrauterine testosterone. If so, it's not strictly genetic, but would be more akin to variations in breast size in women.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (oKE6c)
124
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
I love your wicked sharp business acumen!
I love your wicked sharp business acumen!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (BVDFs)
125
Weird.
I read "cat's paw" and immediately think of a nail-pulling tool. I guess it's a blue collar thing.
I read "cat's paw" and immediately think of a nail-pulling tool. I guess it's a blue collar thing.
Posted by: the bourbon cowboy at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (56XFm)
126
Something else, more immediate.
Day after the decision, the cockholsters at the NYTimes had a piece on "regrets" within the gay community about getting this "equality", i.e., loss of specialness. It had gays complaining about bachelorette parties at their strip clubs and basically that they have largely been accepted and their once near exclusive communities and watering (and other things) holes overrun by breeders. Like the fraudulent #BlackLiesMatter and the race card, the gay movement's next whine will be falling on increasingly deaf and unsympathetic ears. Sure, they'll seek more but "marriage" has been their bitch for years and the lofos will say "you got it shut up already", I think.
Also, by reason of the specialness they have felt in their own little worlds within, anybody have any reliable numbers on the percentage of gays <i>against</i> gay marriage? I heard in passing a large number. If so, then they too have been victims, in a way, of the lefty asshole motherfuckers tearing this country down.
Day after the decision, the cockholsters at the NYTimes had a piece on "regrets" within the gay community about getting this "equality", i.e., loss of specialness. It had gays complaining about bachelorette parties at their strip clubs and basically that they have largely been accepted and their once near exclusive communities and watering (and other things) holes overrun by breeders. Like the fraudulent #BlackLiesMatter and the race card, the gay movement's next whine will be falling on increasingly deaf and unsympathetic ears. Sure, they'll seek more but "marriage" has been their bitch for years and the lofos will say "you got it shut up already", I think.
Also, by reason of the specialness they have felt in their own little worlds within, anybody have any reliable numbers on the percentage of gays <i>against</i> gay marriage? I heard in passing a large number. If so, then they too have been victims, in a way, of the lefty asshole motherfuckers tearing this country down.
Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (g1MTt)
127
"Cat's Paw" was a pretty lame Star Trek episode.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (TF10X)
128
Do a search on the intertubes for gay brothers study...
Posted by: scrood at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (3b9U4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (pCePB)
130
One of the goals is to abolish the notion of gender and even of biological sex. In other words, whether one has a penis or a vagina is no different than being tall as opposed to short.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (7YlUk)
131
The people who most support gay marriage are also the people who spit on the people who defend the USA and all its liberal laws.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (c/Ipt)
132
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
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Because the media bubbleheads they follow tell them that gay marriage is totes important.
One of the scarier things about gay marriage is that it shows just how effective propaganda can be.
At least the "economic populism" crap the left spews has been around for ever - hell they played that game in republican Rome too - but "gay marriage" was invented out of whole cloth and against 2,000 years of thought as to what marriage is...
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Because the media bubbleheads they follow tell them that gay marriage is totes important.
One of the scarier things about gay marriage is that it shows just how effective propaganda can be.
At least the "economic populism" crap the left spews has been around for ever - hell they played that game in republican Rome too - but "gay marriage" was invented out of whole cloth and against 2,000 years of thought as to what marriage is...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (5LOno)
133
"I think the benefits of last week's ruling for gay people will be transient at best, unless we can right the ship of state and reinvigorate American Culture as a source of pride. "
What the fuck does that mean? That's nonsensical.
What the fuck does that mean? That's nonsensical.
Posted by: Lurkster at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (8jqgD)
134
Regionalism?
I wouldn't mind being separated from both Chicago and Springfield. I can live without them.
I wouldn't mind being separated from both Chicago and Springfield. I can live without them.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois An ignorant h8ter at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (GoyxN)
135
Can I have some of that positive shit you're smoking?
Really? I thought it was rather negative myself. I did say "unless we can" with no indication that I thought it likely.
Really? I thought it was rather negative myself. I did say "unless we can" with no indication that I thought it likely.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (WvS3w)
136
They want to be a fag hag...seriously. They think it's vicarious romance, and imasculating all at the same time.
See the phenomena of "Slash lit".
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 09:43 PM (39FGM)
I would have guessed it arose in part from a "sisterhood is powerful" type sentiment, where (at least in fantasy), they'd hang out with homosexuals and say "Men!" and then they'd all shake their heads in commiseration.
See the phenomena of "Slash lit".
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 09:43 PM (39FGM)
I would have guessed it arose in part from a "sisterhood is powerful" type sentiment, where (at least in fantasy), they'd hang out with homosexuals and say "Men!" and then they'd all shake their heads in commiseration.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (oKE6c)
137
We just legalized same sex marriage in the Hittite Empire!
Posted by: Suppiluliuma II at June 28, 2015 09:47 PM (7YlUk)
138
if gay is also genetic and people are 'born that way
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The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
Posted by: 18-1
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I was just reading the other day (on a Drudge link) about a high school in Frisco where 28% of the kids are some sort of gay or "other."
I hear from teenagers now about all their friends who are "bi" or whatever. It's now the new nose-piercing. It's edgy.
"Progress," folks.
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The history is actually pretty clear it is almost entirely cultural. You can see the prevalence of homosexuality wax and wane depending on whether it is accepted or not which....isn't a surprise.
Posted by: 18-1
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I was just reading the other day (on a Drudge link) about a high school in Frisco where 28% of the kids are some sort of gay or "other."
I hear from teenagers now about all their friends who are "bi" or whatever. It's now the new nose-piercing. It's edgy.
"Progress," folks.
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 09:47 PM (1RqFl)
139
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
Oprah. Will Grace. Soap operas.
Gay men are portrayed as role models/girlfriends for them.
Gay marriage is one more frou-frou dog to them.
Oprah. Will Grace. Soap operas.
Gay men are portrayed as role models/girlfriends for them.
Gay marriage is one more frou-frou dog to them.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:47 PM (oVJmc)
140
Speaking as a Californian, why do you care what happens to California? It's a self-created disaster zone.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (8rRE+)
141
130 One of the goals is to abolish the notion of gender and even of biological sex. In other words, whether one has a penis or a vagina is no different than being tall as opposed to short.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (7YlUk)
What kind of hat for a dickhead?
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:45 PM (7YlUk)
What kind of hat for a dickhead?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (Xehhp)
142
What now?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (pCePB)
143
I dunno if this is OT, but Logprof pointed me at Simon Schara's "History of Britain," earlier. The Season 2 episode 8 in particular: "The Winstons," about Winston Churchill and George Orwell. While it all good, fast forward to the ~36 minute point where Churchill addresses Parliament in May 1940 when he is made PM.
We must fight!
We must fight!
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (HLx1C)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (oVJmc)
145
122
Yeah FB fascists are feeling super empowered now. They want to tax the churches. No particular reason why.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (2Ocf1)
Because they fundamentally don't support the free exercise clause of the First Amendment. They think that there are "legitimate" religions and "illegitimate" religions (i.e. megachurches and televangelists) and that the government should be deciding questions of religious orthodoxy of what is a legitimate or illegitimate church. But they don't even see it that way. If you ask them if they support religious liberty, they would say yes. If you ask them if they support taxing the churches, they would say yes. And they wouldn't be lying in either case because they wouldn't know there was a contradiction.
Yeah FB fascists are feeling super empowered now. They want to tax the churches. No particular reason why.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (2Ocf1)
Because they fundamentally don't support the free exercise clause of the First Amendment. They think that there are "legitimate" religions and "illegitimate" religions (i.e. megachurches and televangelists) and that the government should be deciding questions of religious orthodoxy of what is a legitimate or illegitimate church. But they don't even see it that way. If you ask them if they support religious liberty, they would say yes. If you ask them if they support taxing the churches, they would say yes. And they wouldn't be lying in either case because they wouldn't know there was a contradiction.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (+4mdw)
146
We just legalized same sex marriage in the Hittite Empire!
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Fine by us. Now, was it pillage then rape or the other way around?
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Fine by us. Now, was it pillage then rape or the other way around?
Posted by: The Sea People at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (5LOno)
147
125 Weird.
I read "cat's paw" and immediately think of a nail-pulling tool. I guess it's a blue collar thing.
Posted by: the bourbon cowboy at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (56XFm)
I think that was a brand name at one point and, like "Kleenex", got away from 'em. Lord knows mine got plenty of use pulling carpet out -- but IIRC, mine was an Irwin.
I read "cat's paw" and immediately think of a nail-pulling tool. I guess it's a blue collar thing.
Posted by: the bourbon cowboy at June 28, 2015 09:44 PM (56XFm)
I think that was a brand name at one point and, like "Kleenex", got away from 'em. Lord knows mine got plenty of use pulling carpet out -- but IIRC, mine was an Irwin.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (EzgxV)
148
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
A weakness for romantic fantasies. The reflexive embrace of a presumed victim. A preference for illusionary narrative over hard cold reality. And a moth in the porch-light susceptibility to fashionable trends - political and otherwise.
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
A weakness for romantic fantasies. The reflexive embrace of a presumed victim. A preference for illusionary narrative over hard cold reality. And a moth in the porch-light susceptibility to fashionable trends - political and otherwise.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 09:49 PM (kdS6q)
149
"I think the benefits of last week's ruling for gay people will be transient at best, unless we can right the ship of state and reinvigorate American Culture as a source of pride. "
What the fuck does that mean? That's nonsensical.
It means that a "right to gay marriage" only matters in a modern western democratic republic concerned with rights and rule of law. Exactly what the left is trying to destroy.
What the fuck does that mean? That's nonsensical.
It means that a "right to gay marriage" only matters in a modern western democratic republic concerned with rights and rule of law. Exactly what the left is trying to destroy.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:50 PM (WvS3w)
150
For all the vitriol I've seen in my FB page has been the gheys and libertarians high fiving themselves and screeching about how evil Christians were hating on them... and no mention of Islam, or how Sharia Law looks at ghey marriage, etc.
Prediction: we will see just exactly how Islam and Sharia Law look at ghey marriage when the first few ghey couples travel to Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, Mauritius ...
... watch for Astroglide to be seized at Customs ...
For all the vitriol I've seen in my FB page has been the gheys and libertarians high fiving themselves and screeching about how evil Christians were hating on them... and no mention of Islam, or how Sharia Law looks at ghey marriage, etc.
Prediction: we will see just exactly how Islam and Sharia Law look at ghey marriage when the first few ghey couples travel to Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, Mauritius ...
... watch for Astroglide to be seized at Customs ...
Posted by: Arbalest at June 28, 2015 09:50 PM (FlRtG)
151
Was wondering about this today. What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't fight the SJW's. What are ramifications of that?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 28, 2015 09:51 PM (c/Ipt)
152
I hear from teenagers now about all their friends who are "bi" or whatever. It's now the new nose-piercing. It's edgy.
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Of course generally the infections you get from a bad nose piercing go away after a week's supply of antibiotics.
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Of course generally the infections you get from a bad nose piercing go away after a week's supply of antibiotics.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2015 09:51 PM (5LOno)
153
Adam Carolla on Gutfeld in a few minutes.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 09:51 PM (z0HrT)
154
I guess the other way in which this helps civilization collapse is that much of the population loses any desire they may have had to protect their country or society.
Most of the Western world is paying 40%+ of their income for a ruling class, media and educational system that despise them. How many would be broken up, really dying inside, if islamists came in and started targeting those groups first?
Most of the Western world is paying 40%+ of their income for a ruling class, media and educational system that despise them. How many would be broken up, really dying inside, if islamists came in and started targeting those groups first?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 28, 2015 09:51 PM (AC0lD)
155
>>>>Large companies accommodated gay couples by allowing employees to put a partner on a policy even though they were not married. It was a nice accommodation for those who could not tie the knot.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
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When that happens homosexuals will fight tooth and nail to prevent it. Because this was never about equal rights/equality under the law. Their demand that they don't need to be married to keep those benefits for a partner will be further proof of this fact.
But now that they can...... Well, how soon before companies only allow you to add a Legally married spouse to a policy?
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When that happens homosexuals will fight tooth and nail to prevent it. Because this was never about equal rights/equality under the law. Their demand that they don't need to be married to keep those benefits for a partner will be further proof of this fact.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2015 09:52 PM (z/Ubi)
156
I'm more concerned about the decision that says that the Feds can force low income housing into middle-class neighborhoods.
I am guessing the mechanism would put the burden on developers to put designated section 8 housing or (Habitat for Humanity) into new subdivisions.
Easy to avoid - only buy into established and stable neighborhoods (bonus, fewer HOAs).
I am guessing the mechanism would put the burden on developers to put designated section 8 housing or (Habitat for Humanity) into new subdivisions.
Easy to avoid - only buy into established and stable neighborhoods (bonus, fewer HOAs).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 09:52 PM (NaeCR)
157
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't fight the SJW's. What are ramifications of that?
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Next up, why watching gay porn with your sex ed professor is totes important. But none of those icky girls in the class...they can go off with their gym teachers...
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Next up, why watching gay porn with your sex ed professor is totes important. But none of those icky girls in the class...they can go off with their gym teachers...
Posted by: Safe Schools Czar Jennings at June 28, 2015 09:52 PM (5LOno)
158
135 Can I have some of that positive shit you're smoking?
Really? I thought it was rather negative myself. I did say "unless we can" with no indication that I thought it likely.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (WvS3w
Must have misunderstood you then. Sorry about that weirdave
Really? I thought it was rather negative myself. I did say "unless we can" with no indication that I thought it likely.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:46 PM (WvS3w
Must have misunderstood you then. Sorry about that weirdave
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 09:52 PM (Xehhp)
159
124: Tammy always looking for partners or investors. We'll be rich. We can all buy an island somewhere and live the good life. Wifey will love it.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:52 PM (ucDmr)
160
Sea People @ 146 - Duh! Pillage THEN rape. Much more romantic by firelight.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (HLx1C)
161
I think the author forget option three: a Chilean type military junta that transitions into a saner republic once the madness of the times has left us. I kind of prefer that route of collapse.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
162
Goat shaped dildos. Note to self, call plastic mold die makers, stat.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
Just remember you have to outsource the production line to China!
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
Just remember you have to outsource the production line to China!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (ftVQq)
163
Fine by us. Now, was it pillage then rape or the other way around?
Posted by: The Sea People at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (5LOno)
Rape, Murder, Arson, then Rape
Posted by: The Sea People at June 28, 2015 09:48 PM (5LOno)
Rape, Murder, Arson, then Rape
Posted by: I gots a badge at June 28, 2015 09:54 PM (7YlUk)
164
It means that a "right to gay marriage" only matters in a modern western democratic republic concerned with rights and rule of law. Exactly what the left is trying to destroy.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:50 PM (WvS3w)
Ha, sorry but the rule of law is dead. This was forced through based on a massive propaganda campaign, courts overturning popular referendums, and the latest SCOTUS travesty. This has nothing to do with the rule of law. It's not even about rights.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:50 PM (WvS3w)
Ha, sorry but the rule of law is dead. This was forced through based on a massive propaganda campaign, courts overturning popular referendums, and the latest SCOTUS travesty. This has nothing to do with the rule of law. It's not even about rights.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 28, 2015 09:55 PM (nRvEn)
165
Woo Hoo! Six day Greek Banking Holiday.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 09:55 PM (CdIQH)
166
This isn't about gay rights, equality, or civil rights at all....
This is about attacking Christians and destroying Christianity in America.
The next steps will involve portraying the average Christian as a Klansman, a Nazi, or worse.
The next steps will involve stripping churches of tax-exempt status.
Do you really think Leftists are just concerned about gays being left out of leadership positions in the Boy Scouts? What does Scouting teach? Duty to God and Country. Morally straight behavior. Patriotism. Every single value a Leftist truly hates.
This is about attacking Christians and destroying Christianity in America.
The next steps will involve portraying the average Christian as a Klansman, a Nazi, or worse.
The next steps will involve stripping churches of tax-exempt status.
Do you really think Leftists are just concerned about gays being left out of leadership positions in the Boy Scouts? What does Scouting teach? Duty to God and Country. Morally straight behavior. Patriotism. Every single value a Leftist truly hates.
Posted by: Sam Adams at June 28, 2015 09:56 PM (R8h28)
167
Cat's Paw shoe heels.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 09:57 PM (W5DcG)
168
It's loot, rape, pillage, and then burn you mendicants.
Posted by: Groo the Wanderer at June 28, 2015 09:57 PM (CdIQH)
169
Ha, sorry but the rule of law is dead.
Fascinating! I wonder if anybody has written anything about that, it sounds interesting. 
Fascinating! I wonder if anybody has written anything about that, it sounds interesting.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 09:57 PM (WvS3w)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:57 PM (pCePB)
171
True Detective better up its game.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 28, 2015 09:57 PM (iQIUe)
172
Wait until the first terror attack on a
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
I was wondering if a bomb goes off at a "pride" parade like the Boston Marathon. Would it be a hate crime or shouldn't we jump to conclusions and get on our high horse?
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
I don't think it will take too much time for that to happen.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 09:20 PM (Vyg9x)
I was wondering if a bomb goes off at a "pride" parade like the Boston Marathon. Would it be a hate crime or shouldn't we jump to conclusions and get on our high horse?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 09:58 PM (DiZBp)
173
161 I think the author forget option three: a Chilean type military junta that transitions into a saner republic once the madness of the times has left us. I kind of prefer that route of collapse.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
In California, we're similarly well-situated to take lefties on short one-way sightseeing trips over the Pacific.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
In California, we're similarly well-situated to take lefties on short one-way sightseeing trips over the Pacific.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 09:58 PM (EzgxV)
174
Nice story about those who are being used to serve the liberal agenda. Unfortunately, history dictates that the "Cat's Paw" isn't the only thing to suffer. All of society will tumble if communists get their way.
Posted by: MrX at June 28, 2015 09:59 PM (if9v9)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 09:59 PM (pCePB)
176
"What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't fight the SJW's. What are ramifications of that? "
This is probably likely. A Democrat dominance for a generation is the result, followed by revolution. They aimed for European social democracy but they acted Latin American with this crap.
This is probably likely. A Democrat dominance for a generation is the result, followed by revolution. They aimed for European social democracy but they acted Latin American with this crap.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 28, 2015 10:00 PM (8rRE+)
177
the left eventually will collapse under their own weight. They stand for nothing significant. I may not live long enough to see it, but their bullshit will snuff itself out. They are like hallow tree. Looks impressive from outside, fuck with it, adios.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 10:00 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 10:00 PM (pCePB)
179
I think the author forget option three: a Chilean type military junta that transitions into a saner republic once the madness of the times has left us. I kind of prefer that route of collapse.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
Too late.
Aside from the fact that the leadership in the military is being turned into social justice warriors, it would be impossible to to what Pinochet did.
What Pinochet did was not just take out Allende, but went after all of the people that made Allende possible... thousands of them.
Today in America, the military would need to frag their leadership, take out not only all three branches of government, but also of many of the state and local governments, the news media, hollywood, almost all college administrators, half of all Professors, the leaders of most Tech companies, and probably anyone with a degree involving the word "studies". We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t".
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
Too late.
Aside from the fact that the leadership in the military is being turned into social justice warriors, it would be impossible to to what Pinochet did.
What Pinochet did was not just take out Allende, but went after all of the people that made Allende possible... thousands of them.
Today in America, the military would need to frag their leadership, take out not only all three branches of government, but also of many of the state and local governments, the news media, hollywood, almost all college administrators, half of all Professors, the leaders of most Tech companies, and probably anyone with a degree involving the word "studies". We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t".
Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (7YlUk)
180
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't fight the SJW's.
That's kind of the buzz I'm seeing. Just had enough of the game and now is the time for a personal separation from society. Just not going to get involved in Team GOP's next "All we need is a few more Republicans and another check" shadow play.
Whether it's a pause in social activism, like in the post Watergate 70s, or a serious Calvinistic separation in the social sphere -- dunno.
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't fight the SJW's.
That's kind of the buzz I'm seeing. Just had enough of the game and now is the time for a personal separation from society. Just not going to get involved in Team GOP's next "All we need is a few more Republicans and another check" shadow play.
Whether it's a pause in social activism, like in the post Watergate 70s, or a serious Calvinistic separation in the social sphere -- dunno.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (kdS6q)
181
Wait until the first terror attack on a
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
It won't happen that way.
What would happen is:
Bombs go off at a gay pride rally.
The media find some gay-hating yahoo in the area who has some violent past, and blame him for it. (think: Richard Jewell)
ISIS claims credit, but the media will say "well yeah but you can't really trust them, and besides, we already found this guy who is obviously guilty!"
Someone will find somewhere that this guy once said something nice about some Republican somewhere, and instantly all Republicans will be blamed.
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
It won't happen that way.
What would happen is:
Bombs go off at a gay pride rally.
The media find some gay-hating yahoo in the area who has some violent past, and blame him for it. (think: Richard Jewell)
ISIS claims credit, but the media will say "well yeah but you can't really trust them, and besides, we already found this guy who is obviously guilty!"
Someone will find somewhere that this guy once said something nice about some Republican somewhere, and instantly all Republicans will be blamed.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (+4mdw)
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"Islamists will come to hold sway"
Nope. Not in any possible future does that happen.
If the United States goes tits up, China will take the helm. They don't much like Islamists. Or gays, for that matter.
Nope. Not in any possible future does that happen.
If the United States goes tits up, China will take the helm. They don't much like Islamists. Or gays, for that matter.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (NxVTY)
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Should you buy Drachmas as soon as they available or should you wait?
I do kind of want a 10 Trillion Dracma Note to go along with the Billion Note I already have.
I do kind of want a 10 Trillion Dracma Note to go along with the Billion Note I already have.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:02 PM (GoyxN)
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Cheap Carny Grifter is prescient. Nailed it.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (ucDmr)
185
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political
field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't
fight the SJW's.
If the gun confiscation starts in that vacuum, time will be short.
Indeed, that might ignite the powerkeg.
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political
field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't
fight the SJW's.
If the gun confiscation starts in that vacuum, time will be short.
Indeed, that might ignite the powerkeg.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (oVJmc)
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" We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t"."
Kid, you ain't ready for the major leagues.
Kid, you ain't ready for the major leagues.
Posted by: Ghost Mao Zedong at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (8rRE+)
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Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (7YlUk)
I think you are over estimating the number of true beleievers that would need to be made an example of. A lot of the folks in the leftist structure will cave in the face of destructive power they don't control... They are intellectually weak cowards that are only brave when they they have a supportive mob behind them.
I think you are over estimating the number of true beleievers that would need to be made an example of. A lot of the folks in the leftist structure will cave in the face of destructive power they don't control... They are intellectually weak cowards that are only brave when they they have a supportive mob behind them.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (39FGM)
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79
Wasn't an ISIS flag. It was a dildo flag.
What difference does it make?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful
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Not that it makes a difference, but (pardon the pun) I read elsewhere they were butt plugs.
Wasn't an ISIS flag. It was a dildo flag.
What difference does it make?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful
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Not that it makes a difference, but (pardon the pun) I read elsewhere they were butt plugs.
Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (g1MTt)
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Wait until the first terror attack on a
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
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Not gonna happen any time soon.
Notice that Muslims have never battle against abortion in the West - either with bombs (their usual tactic) or with picket signs.
They don't care if the infidels abort or turn gay. They sit back and let it happen.
Even after they take over, they let the dhimmis do as they please for a very long time.
They use the infidels' behavior as lessons for their own people: "See how decadent infidels are!"
homosexual pride event happens on U.S soil and isis claims credit. You
will know the alliance is dead. The idiots will no longer be useful in
the war against Christianity.
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Not gonna happen any time soon.
Notice that Muslims have never battle against abortion in the West - either with bombs (their usual tactic) or with picket signs.
They don't care if the infidels abort or turn gay. They sit back and let it happen.
Even after they take over, they let the dhimmis do as they please for a very long time.
They use the infidels' behavior as lessons for their own people: "See how decadent infidels are!"
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (1RqFl)
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Heh, Gutfeld nailed it in his opening monologue.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (z0HrT)
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If the United States goes tits up, China will take the helm. They don't much like Islamists. Or gays, for that matter.
If the US goes tits up, China will be right there next to us putting suntan lotion on their nipples. Their economy is too hollow to stand w/o us.
If the US goes tits up, China will be right there next to us putting suntan lotion on their nipples. Their economy is too hollow to stand w/o us.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (WvS3w)
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185
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political
field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't
fight the SJW's.
If the gun confiscation starts in that vacuum, time will be short.
Indeed, that might ignite the powerkeg.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10
Pedophiles will be our next class to accept and embrace
What if the Socons just give up after this; just quit the political
field and leave everything to the SJW's and the moderates who won't
fight the SJW's.
If the gun confiscation starts in that vacuum, time will be short.
Indeed, that might ignite the powerkeg.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10
Pedophiles will be our next class to accept and embrace
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 10:05 PM (Xehhp)
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Do you really think Leftists are just concerned
about gays being left out of leadership positions in the Boy Scouts?
What does Scouting teach? Duty to God and Country. Morally straight
behavior. Patriotism. Every single value a Leftist truly hates.
Posted by: Sam Adams
Yes, this will likely be the death of the Boy Scouts in America. I had a talk about this about 8 years ago with my son's former Scoutmaster (a retired Army Major, who served in Desert Storm). He absolutely loved scouting and believed in its value to train young men to be responsible adults.
That will go out the window too, with this little pyhrric victory for the gays.
about gays being left out of leadership positions in the Boy Scouts?
What does Scouting teach? Duty to God and Country. Morally straight
behavior. Patriotism. Every single value a Leftist truly hates.
Posted by: Sam Adams
Yes, this will likely be the death of the Boy Scouts in America. I had a talk about this about 8 years ago with my son's former Scoutmaster (a retired Army Major, who served in Desert Storm). He absolutely loved scouting and believed in its value to train young men to be responsible adults.
That will go out the window too, with this little pyhrric victory for the gays.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 28, 2015 10:05 PM (+1T7c)
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"can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?"
In my experience, a lot of that is basically class-signifier talk.
It's their way of denoting that they belong to a particular social stratum, and that they are thereby superior people to others in different social strata who believe differently.
In my experience, a lot of that is basically class-signifier talk.
It's their way of denoting that they belong to a particular social stratum, and that they are thereby superior people to others in different social strata who believe differently.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 10:05 PM (noWW6)
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Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused.
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (cfFqn)
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Not to freak anybody out or anything, but look up the "Abomination of Desolation", the abomination that makes desolate. It's a horrible thing that will be placed "where it ought not be". Years ago, hell back in the '90s, I remember reading what I thought was high crankery at the time ranting that gay marriage is that AoD thing. First of all, gay marriage, that'll *never* happen in my lifetime, hah, hah....
I can't quite shake the thought. Oh, and JHC His own Self said that when you see that AoD, head for the hills. Don't go back, don't look back, head for the hills, because if His Pop had not shortened the days, no man would survive.
I don't know if it's just cultural or what, but when I think of homosexuality, open flaunting of it, images of fire raining down come to mind. :-) Just sayin', as they say.
Not to freak anybody out or anything, but look up the "Abomination of Desolation", the abomination that makes desolate. It's a horrible thing that will be placed "where it ought not be". Years ago, hell back in the '90s, I remember reading what I thought was high crankery at the time ranting that gay marriage is that AoD thing. First of all, gay marriage, that'll *never* happen in my lifetime, hah, hah....
I can't quite shake the thought. Oh, and JHC His own Self said that when you see that AoD, head for the hills. Don't go back, don't look back, head for the hills, because if His Pop had not shortened the days, no man would survive.
I don't know if it's just cultural or what, but when I think of homosexuality, open flaunting of it, images of fire raining down come to mind. :-) Just sayin', as they say.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (dvuhZ)
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"can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?"
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Because the Emperor has new clothes... and they're FABULOUS!
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Because the Emperor has new clothes... and they're FABULOUS!
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (1RqFl)
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Probably been posted but AG of Texas has issued statement that government workers can choose not to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. He clarified that this would not prevent them from being sued but that free legal defense would be provided.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (Q4pU/)
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Aw shit, FNC breaking with an URGENT NEWS ALERT interrupting Gutfeld with medical nonsense about Sweat.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (z0HrT)
200
We've reached a tipping point where if the LIVs were
offered the "utopia" that the Proggies think they are creating, they'd
vote for it.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (7YlUk)
As H.L.Mencken said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it... good and hard."
Its just a shame that we are getting it good and hard too.
offered the "utopia" that the Proggies think they are creating, they'd
vote for it.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 09:33 PM (7YlUk)
As H.L.Mencken said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it... good and hard."
Its just a shame that we are getting it good and hard too.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2015 10:07 PM (NPofj)
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Bail in bail out.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 10:07 PM (CdIQH)
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can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
Cheap grace. "Gay rights" means going to fashionable protests and swell cocktail parties, as opposed to dealing with the icky poor like the church demands.
Cheap grace. "Gay rights" means going to fashionable protests and swell cocktail parties, as opposed to dealing with the icky poor like the church demands.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 28, 2015 10:07 PM (10ydV)
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I think you are over estimating the number of true beleievers that would need to be made an example of. A lot of the folks in the leftist structure will cave in the face of destructive power they don't control... They are intellectually weak cowards that are only brave when they they have a supportive mob behind them.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (39FGM)
It's not about taking out "examples" but of terminal neutralization of everyone who is a threat or contributor to that threat.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:03 PM (39FGM)
It's not about taking out "examples" but of terminal neutralization of everyone who is a threat or contributor to that threat.
Posted by: Zombie Augusto Pinochet at June 28, 2015 10:07 PM (7YlUk)
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"They use the infidels' behavior as lessons for their own people: "See how decadent infidels are!"
I disagree. The mooslimbs are impatient.
I disagree. The mooslimbs are impatient.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (GoyxN)
205
If Radical Islam gains power, gay folks will have bigger things to worry about than same sex marriage.
Two words: Public Record
Two words: Public Record
Posted by: Methos at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (ZbV+0)
206
"Their economy is too hollow to stand w/o us."
Nope. Just induct all the unemployed workers into the People's Liberation Army and promise to pay them with loot from conquered territories. It's been done before.
Nope. Just induct all the unemployed workers into the People's Liberation Army and promise to pay them with loot from conquered territories. It's been done before.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (NxVTY)
207
Just saw a lost cat poster with $1000 reward on it. Yes, I did go back twice to be sure.
Probably coyote poop by now. Will keep an eye out when walking the next few days.
Probably coyote poop by now. Will keep an eye out when walking the next few days.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (uPxUo)
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Just had enough of the game and now is the time for a personal separation from society.
That is precisely where I am at, at this juncture.
That is precisely where I am at, at this juncture.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (Dwehj)
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>>>.......talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t".
And I'm in one of those moods where I might say bring it on
And I'm in one of those moods where I might say bring it on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 10:08 PM (Xehhp)
210
"Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused."
From what I understand it, some countries in the EU need the EU more than others, and if Greece can survive by telling the EU to go to hell, then other countries better off might do it too; so the EU has every reason to bail out Greece to show unity, except they won't do it without real strings attached.
From what I understand it, some countries in the EU need the EU more than others, and if Greece can survive by telling the EU to go to hell, then other countries better off might do it too; so the EU has every reason to bail out Greece to show unity, except they won't do it without real strings attached.
Posted by: Ghost Mao Zedong at June 28, 2015 10:09 PM (8rRE+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 10:10 PM (pCePB)
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"[The Chinese] economy is too hollow to stand w/o us."
I don't subscribe to that line of thinking.
Sure, China has a fat credit bubble and resource misallocation.
But they also have an extraordinary and growing ability to do, build, design, and make things. The stuff that made America a titan in an earlier era, which America has forgotten about.
I suspect that an American economic implosion might allow China to neatly decouple and continue on its own merry way without much lasting damage to speak of.
I don't subscribe to that line of thinking.
Sure, China has a fat credit bubble and resource misallocation.
But they also have an extraordinary and growing ability to do, build, design, and make things. The stuff that made America a titan in an earlier era, which America has forgotten about.
I suspect that an American economic implosion might allow China to neatly decouple and continue on its own merry way without much lasting damage to speak of.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 10:10 PM (noWW6)
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Nope. Just induct all the unemployed workers into the People's Liberation Army and promise to pay them with loot from conquered territories. It's been done before.
I think starvation by the millions is more likely. That's been done before too.
I think starvation by the millions is more likely. That's been done before too.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 10:10 PM (WvS3w)
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Something like 5% of money is in physical form. A very small percentage of a run on banks and it ends. There are three days or so of groceries on the shelves. After that we're all hunter gatherers again.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (CdIQH)
215
Ugh, what a boring news conference.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (z0HrT)
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"Just induct all the unemployed workers into the People's Liberation Army and promise to pay them with loot from conquered territories. It's been done before. "
As an added incentive, promise all the young Chinese men who can't find wives (due to the selective abortion of female fetuses for the last couple of decades) their pick of the women from conquered territories.
Also been done before.
As an added incentive, promise all the young Chinese men who can't find wives (due to the selective abortion of female fetuses for the last couple of decades) their pick of the women from conquered territories.
Also been done before.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (NxVTY)
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"It's not about taking out "examples" but of terminal neutralization of everyone who is a threat or contributor to that threat."
You're assuming everybody is going to make it in the New State.
You're wrong.
And when you start out assuming a population reduction after the revolution, then the massive effort to feed everybody every day gets prioritized.
You're assuming everybody is going to make it in the New State.
You're wrong.
And when you start out assuming a population reduction after the revolution, then the massive effort to feed everybody every day gets prioritized.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (8rRE+)
218
I cannot wait to hear objections to polygamy. It already has historic and current acceptance. The argument about "society" is some sort of couple privilege. Deny an adult there need to be happy and complete? You GD polyphobes!
FU supremes, Diana Ross knew what to do to you when your usefulness is over.
FU supremes, Diana Ross knew what to do to you when your usefulness is over.
Posted by: Ubik at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (d4wyo)
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207 Just saw a lost cat poster with $1000 reward on it. Yes, I did go back twice to be sure
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Makes mental note that some ladies really like their cats...
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Makes mental note that some ladies really like their cats...
Posted by: that strange looking guy walking the neighborhood at June 28, 2015 10:12 PM (56XFm)
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179 I think the author forget option three: a Chilean type military junta that transitions into a saner republic once the madness of the times has left us. I kind of prefer that route of collapse.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
Too late.
Aside from the fact that the leadership in the military is being turned into social justice warriors, it would be impossible to to what Pinochet did.
What Pinochet did was not just take out Allende, but went after all of the people that made Allende possible... thousands of them.
Today in America, the military would need to frag their leadership, take out not only all three branches of government, but also of many of the state and local governments, the news media, hollywood, almost all college administrators, half of all Professors, the leaders of most Tech companies, and probably anyone with a degree involving the word "studies". We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t".
Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (7YlUk)
Number one -- Mao managed to kill millions. Even if you got the mass purge you originally described, Mao's reaction would be "Meh."
Number two -- Pinochet took out the people who made Allende possible....thousands of them. How was it only thousands in a country of several million? Because they didn't take every Ethnic Grievance Studies major out -- they took the university administrator out and the replacement defunded the department. As large as the US is, I have no doubt that fewer than 10,000 people would be more than adequate....or every shitty little rabble-rouser wouldn't be on the White House guest list. And probably half of them would self-deport.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 28, 2015 09:53 PM (T1Jm0)
Too late.
Aside from the fact that the leadership in the military is being turned into social justice warriors, it would be impossible to to what Pinochet did.
What Pinochet did was not just take out Allende, but went after all of the people that made Allende possible... thousands of them.
Today in America, the military would need to frag their leadership, take out not only all three branches of government, but also of many of the state and local governments, the news media, hollywood, almost all college administrators, half of all Professors, the leaders of most Tech companies, and probably anyone with a degree involving the word "studies". We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t".
Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at June 28, 2015 10:01 PM (7YlUk)
Number one -- Mao managed to kill millions. Even if you got the mass purge you originally described, Mao's reaction would be "Meh."
Number two -- Pinochet took out the people who made Allende possible....thousands of them. How was it only thousands in a country of several million? Because they didn't take every Ethnic Grievance Studies major out -- they took the university administrator out and the replacement defunded the department. As large as the US is, I have no doubt that fewer than 10,000 people would be more than adequate....or every shitty little rabble-rouser wouldn't be on the White House guest list. And probably half of them would self-deport.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 10:12 PM (EzgxV)
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The Left are bold but not courageous .
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:12 PM (Q4pU/)
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"I think starvation by the millions is more likely. "
They aren't mutually exclusive. Starvation is a pretty powerful incentive for joining the army.
They aren't mutually exclusive. Starvation is a pretty powerful incentive for joining the army.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:12 PM (NxVTY)
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195
Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused.
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (cfFqn)
- The EU (mainly the Germans) loaned a crapload of money to Greece- As a condition of the loans they imposed changes in how Greece functions, you know, less like a kleptocracy and more like a real functioning government- Elections came, new government came in on an explicit platform opposed to those "unbearably harsh" conditions- The Greek government has been playing idiotic games with their debt repayment schedule in exchange for getting the terms of the loans changed post-hoc, but the EU has been mainly holding firm, while extending deadlines here and there- June 30 was supposed to be a deadline for when Greece was supposed to make these changes in exchange for another loan disbursement, but they've refused, and the EU (mainly Germany) has had it up to here with the Greeks and their games, so they are not budging on the deadline this time, and so because of this, without the EU loan money, Greece won't be able to service its other outstanding debt- And so if they can't pay their debts, they won't be permitted to be a part of the Euro system anymore.
I think that's a summary. I've been following it off and on from NR so I don't have the full details, but I think that's the gist of it
Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused.
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (cfFqn)
- The EU (mainly the Germans) loaned a crapload of money to Greece- As a condition of the loans they imposed changes in how Greece functions, you know, less like a kleptocracy and more like a real functioning government- Elections came, new government came in on an explicit platform opposed to those "unbearably harsh" conditions- The Greek government has been playing idiotic games with their debt repayment schedule in exchange for getting the terms of the loans changed post-hoc, but the EU has been mainly holding firm, while extending deadlines here and there- June 30 was supposed to be a deadline for when Greece was supposed to make these changes in exchange for another loan disbursement, but they've refused, and the EU (mainly Germany) has had it up to here with the Greeks and their games, so they are not budging on the deadline this time, and so because of this, without the EU loan money, Greece won't be able to service its other outstanding debt- And so if they can't pay their debts, they won't be permitted to be a part of the Euro system anymore.
I think that's a summary. I've been following it off and on from NR so I don't have the full details, but I think that's the gist of it
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:13 PM (+4mdw)
224
torque likes Chinese.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 28, 2015 10:13 PM (pCePB)
225
Stupid formatting. Ugh.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:14 PM (+4mdw)
226
It's not surprising how PC pieties manifest themselves in the British TV export "Humans." If the series doesn't further constrain itself as it continues, it could develop some interesting characters.
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 28, 2015 10:14 PM (jT+gh)
227
If the US goes tits up, China will be right there
next to us putting suntan lotion on their nipples. Their economy is too
hollow to stand w/o us.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (WvS3w)
They have a huge industrial base built up and a massive population. They might just get into the old "war as economic stimulus" business.
next to us putting suntan lotion on their nipples. Their economy is too
hollow to stand w/o us.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 10:04 PM (WvS3w)
They have a huge industrial base built up and a massive population. They might just get into the old "war as economic stimulus" business.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:14 PM (Q819Q)
228
I cannot wait to hear objections to polygamy. It already has historic and current acceptance. The argument about "society" is some sort of couple privilege. Deny an adult there need to be happy and complete? You GD polyphobes!
FU supremes, Diana Ross knew what to do to you when your usefulness is over.
Posted by: Ubik at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (d4wyo)
Stop Duo-Normative Oppression!
FU supremes, Diana Ross knew what to do to you when your usefulness is over.
Posted by: Ubik at June 28, 2015 10:11 PM (d4wyo)
Stop Duo-Normative Oppression!
Posted by: Coming soon to SCOTUS at June 28, 2015 10:14 PM (7YlUk)
229
Long-term, China falls apart into warring states. Short-term, they would be a formidable force. You think those container ships can't haul troops just as easily?
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (NxVTY)
230
The left is bold only because they have not had to face consequences for their actions.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (F0Cog)
231
OT but I've been playing Arkham Knight this weekend. The game itself is beautifully rendered but I'm really pissed off that it's a driving game that was disguised as an action game. It feels like a huge bait and switch.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:16 PM (z0HrT)
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The Left are bold but not courageous .
Posted by: Cruzinator
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One might say that they are characterized by 'Audacity'.
Posted by: Cruzinator
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One might say that they are characterized by 'Audacity'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2015 10:16 PM (F2IAQ)
234
Container ships will sink faster then the French Navy.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 10:16 PM (CdIQH)
235
230 The left is bold only because they have not had to face consequences for their actions.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (F0Cog)
That's where the courageous part comes into play.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (F0Cog)
That's where the courageous part comes into play.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:17 PM (Q4pU/)
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The Left are bold but not courageous .
Pajama Boy vs. Audie Murphy.
That would be fun. Brief, but fun.
Pajama Boy vs. Audie Murphy.
That would be fun. Brief, but fun.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:18 PM (oVJmc)
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Strangely enough, this commentary by Weirddave cheered me up....
Posted by: Jen at June 28, 2015 10:18 PM (msAGT)
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The left is bold only because they have not had to face consequences for their actions.
Posted by: Tilikum
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Conservatives are, by their nature, generally quiet, polite and thoughtful about others. That is part of our problem.
Posted by: Tilikum
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Conservatives are, by their nature, generally quiet, polite and thoughtful about others. That is part of our problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2015 10:18 PM (F2IAQ)
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"Container ships will sink faster then the French Navy."
If there's any opposition, yeah, But remember we're assuming that the United States has completely collapsed in this scenario.
They might decide to just grab Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at first, and leave the Americas for later.
If there's any opposition, yeah, But remember we're assuming that the United States has completely collapsed in this scenario.
They might decide to just grab Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at first, and leave the Americas for later.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:18 PM (NxVTY)
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Polygamy? Hah! That's a done deal. Sans economic collapse, within 10 years we will have legalized pedophilia. You may think, no, that won't happen, but that's what I thought about gay marriage back in the '90s. You may think, but this deals with children, not adults of free mind according to law. That is but a small stumbling block. It won't last two seconds.
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Incest, too. Coming to a rights movement near you.
Fuck it all. Let it Burn. FIA-LIB.
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Incest, too. Coming to a rights movement near you.
Fuck it all. Let it Burn. FIA-LIB.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:19 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Tennessee Jed at June 28, 2015 10:20 PM (ahBY0)
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Yeah they will already admit that polygamy is next, that it will be legalized too.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:20 PM (+4mdw)
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"There are three days or so of groceries on the shelves. After that we're all hunter gatherers again."
Since I live in Commiefornia, the topic of disaster prep for earthquakes comes up in casual conversation with random people. I often posit during such chats, well, what if the Big One hits at a time when there's already a broader calamity affecting America, and the rest of the country isn't going to be sending aid?
It blows my mind how many people think there are huge commercial warehouses or government stockpiles of food, *somewhere close by*, and that at need, they can just "go get the food".
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
Since I live in Commiefornia, the topic of disaster prep for earthquakes comes up in casual conversation with random people. I often posit during such chats, well, what if the Big One hits at a time when there's already a broader calamity affecting America, and the rest of the country isn't going to be sending aid?
It blows my mind how many people think there are huge commercial warehouses or government stockpiles of food, *somewhere close by*, and that at need, they can just "go get the food".
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 10:20 PM (noWW6)
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They might decide to just grab Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at first, and leave the Americas for later.
In the mean time, we can gather up a plucky band of ethnically and sexually diverse rebels, and maybe even dig up Coleman Francis to play the lead role.
In the mean time, we can gather up a plucky band of ethnically and sexually diverse rebels, and maybe even dig up Coleman Francis to play the lead role.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (Q819Q)
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publius, pedophilia is a necessary consequence of polyamory, which is a necessary consequence of same-sex marriage
so . . .yeah
and, historic precedent for both very strong
cultural/social affect? disastrous
not that anyone seems to care
so . . .yeah
and, historic precedent for both very strong
cultural/social affect? disastrous
not that anyone seems to care
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (eR2aG)
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I think I will just go ahead and accept the labels "incestophobe and pedophobe to go along with polygaphobe.
I like to avoid rushes.
I like to avoid rushes.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (GoyxN)
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They might decide to just grab Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at first, and leave the Americas for later.
But they would be facing the formidable Rainbow Coalition, striking fear into the hearts of every Chinaman.
But they would be facing the formidable Rainbow Coalition, striking fear into the hearts of every Chinaman.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (Dwehj)
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246 I think I will just go ahead and accept the labels "incestophobe and pedophobe to go along with polygaphobe.
I like to avoid rushes.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (GoyxN)
How about "pervaphobe"? Covers all the bases.
I like to avoid rushes.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:21 PM (GoyxN)
How about "pervaphobe"? Covers all the bases.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2015 10:22 PM (mx5oN)
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World War III will be all about the approval of Necrophile Marriage.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:22 PM (oVJmc)
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Polygamy? Hah! That's a done deal. Sans economic
collapse, within 10 years we will have legalized pedophilia. You may
think, no, that won't happen, but that's what I thought about gay
marriage back in the '90s. You may think, but this deals with children,
not adults of free mind according to law. That is but a small stumbling
block. It won't last two seconds.
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Posted by: publius
Phylis Schlafley predicted this over 30 years ago, and predicted the mainstreaming of homosexual behavior. She predicted if we ever get legal "gay marriage", the legalized pedophilia would be next. Sometime in the 1980's if I recall her talk (shown on C-SPAN).
collapse, within 10 years we will have legalized pedophilia. You may
think, no, that won't happen, but that's what I thought about gay
marriage back in the '90s. You may think, but this deals with children,
not adults of free mind according to law. That is but a small stumbling
block. It won't last two seconds.
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Posted by: publius
Phylis Schlafley predicted this over 30 years ago, and predicted the mainstreaming of homosexual behavior. She predicted if we ever get legal "gay marriage", the legalized pedophilia would be next. Sometime in the 1980's if I recall her talk (shown on C-SPAN).
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 28, 2015 10:22 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 28, 2015 10:23 PM (eR2aG)
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I'm guessing California has more privately owned secret doomsday bunkers than any other state.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:23 PM (Q4pU/)
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- The EU (mainly the Germans) loaned a crapload of
money to Greece- As a condition of the loans they imposed changes in how
Greece functions, you know, less like a kleptocracy and more like a
real functioning government- Elections came, new government came in on
an explicit platform opposed to those "unbearably harsh" conditions- The
Greek government has been playing idiotic games with their debt
repayment schedule in exchange for getting the terms of the loans
changed post-hoc, but the EU has been mainly holding firm, while
extending deadlines here and there- June 30 was supposed to be a
deadline for when Greece was supposed to make these changes in exchange
for another loan disbursement, but they've refused, and the EU (mainly
Germany) has had it up to here with the Greeks and their games, so they
are not budging on the deadline this time, and so because of this,
without the EU loan money, Greece won't be able to service its other
outstanding debt- And so if they can't pay their debts, they won't be
permitted to be a part of the Euro system anymore.
I think that's a
summary. I've been following it off and on from NR so I don't have the
full details, but I think that's the gist of it
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:13 PM (+4mdw)
To be fair to the Greeks, as kleptocratic as they are, a large part of the problem is the structure of the European Union and its unitary monetary policy that is controlled by the Germans very much to the detriment of smaller countries with weaker economies like Greece and, to a lesser extent, Ireland. The Germans have a relatively strong economy and are terrified of inflation (rightfully so given their history) and use their influence to make sure Euro monetary policy controls inflation FOR THEM without regard for what it does to weaker economies. The European Union was an ill conceived monetary move that quickly turned into an attempt at "one world" government which is failing because it must.
money to Greece- As a condition of the loans they imposed changes in how
Greece functions, you know, less like a kleptocracy and more like a
real functioning government- Elections came, new government came in on
an explicit platform opposed to those "unbearably harsh" conditions- The
Greek government has been playing idiotic games with their debt
repayment schedule in exchange for getting the terms of the loans
changed post-hoc, but the EU has been mainly holding firm, while
extending deadlines here and there- June 30 was supposed to be a
deadline for when Greece was supposed to make these changes in exchange
for another loan disbursement, but they've refused, and the EU (mainly
Germany) has had it up to here with the Greeks and their games, so they
are not budging on the deadline this time, and so because of this,
without the EU loan money, Greece won't be able to service its other
outstanding debt- And so if they can't pay their debts, they won't be
permitted to be a part of the Euro system anymore.
I think that's a
summary. I've been following it off and on from NR so I don't have the
full details, but I think that's the gist of it
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:13 PM (+4mdw)
To be fair to the Greeks, as kleptocratic as they are, a large part of the problem is the structure of the European Union and its unitary monetary policy that is controlled by the Germans very much to the detriment of smaller countries with weaker economies like Greece and, to a lesser extent, Ireland. The Germans have a relatively strong economy and are terrified of inflation (rightfully so given their history) and use their influence to make sure Euro monetary policy controls inflation FOR THEM without regard for what it does to weaker economies. The European Union was an ill conceived monetary move that quickly turned into an attempt at "one world" government which is failing because it must.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2015 10:25 PM (NPofj)
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"Since I live in Commiefornia, the topic of disaster prep for earthquakes comes up in casual conversation with random people."
Yeah, California is screwed in any such event. There's no water without technology, and no food without water.
Several of the early Spanish colonies in Cali starved to death, if I remember my history, and those people were a helluva lot more in tune with growing and hunting their own food than the typical California denizen of today.
Yeah, California is screwed in any such event. There's no water without technology, and no food without water.
Several of the early Spanish colonies in Cali starved to death, if I remember my history, and those people were a helluva lot more in tune with growing and hunting their own food than the typical California denizen of today.
Posted by: Cheap Carny Grifter from Arkansas at June 28, 2015 10:25 PM (NxVTY)
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If Kate Upton was my sister I'd be tempted to fight to legalize brother sister marriage.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:25 PM (Q4pU/)
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A weakness for romantic fantasies. The reflexive
embrace of a presumed victim. A preference for illusionary narrative
over hard cold reality. And a moth in the porch-light susceptibility to
fashionable trends - political and otherwise.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 09:49 PM (kdS6q)
Perfect qualifications for voting.
embrace of a presumed victim. A preference for illusionary narrative
over hard cold reality. And a moth in the porch-light susceptibility to
fashionable trends - political and otherwise.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 09:49 PM (kdS6q)
Perfect qualifications for voting.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:26 PM (oKE6c)
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I'm guessing California has more privately owned secret doomsday bunkers than any other state.
Posted by: Cruzinator
And it will have more large roaming mobs of hungry people. You think that Beverly Hills PD can keep them out?
California will burn like a tinder box if there is some kind of social collapse or upheavel.
Posted by: Cruzinator
And it will have more large roaming mobs of hungry people. You think that Beverly Hills PD can keep them out?
California will burn like a tinder box if there is some kind of social collapse or upheavel.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 28, 2015 10:26 PM (+1T7c)
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"Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused."
You buy a government bond, so it owes you money.
You borrow money to buy another bond using the first as collateral on your loan.
Repeat 8 times.
Now, for the price of one bond, you owe nine times that much and have ten bonds. You do this because instead of getting 3% (for example) annual return on your money, now you get 30%. Which is great, and why wouldn't you do this?
Particularly when you are required by law to presume the bonds have no chance of default. You cannot possibly lose.
Except laws can't change the inevitable default of a government that runs on borrowed money. So when it happens, instead of doubling your money every three years or so, you're now broke, and because your collateral is worthless, whoever you borrowed from is also out 9 times the original value of the bond.
Now replace 'you' with 'Every bank in Europe and quite a few in America', give some thought to where the money 'you' borrowed must have come from, and replace 'a bond' with 'billions and billions of dollars/euros worth of government debt'.
You buy a government bond, so it owes you money.
You borrow money to buy another bond using the first as collateral on your loan.
Repeat 8 times.
Now, for the price of one bond, you owe nine times that much and have ten bonds. You do this because instead of getting 3% (for example) annual return on your money, now you get 30%. Which is great, and why wouldn't you do this?
Particularly when you are required by law to presume the bonds have no chance of default. You cannot possibly lose.
Except laws can't change the inevitable default of a government that runs on borrowed money. So when it happens, instead of doubling your money every three years or so, you're now broke, and because your collateral is worthless, whoever you borrowed from is also out 9 times the original value of the bond.
Now replace 'you' with 'Every bank in Europe and quite a few in America', give some thought to where the money 'you' borrowed must have come from, and replace 'a bond' with 'billions and billions of dollars/euros worth of government debt'.
Posted by: Methos at June 28, 2015 10:26 PM (ZbV+0)
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It's not a matter of LIB.
Folks, it is going to burn. It has passed the point of no return.
I don't like that answer, but I no longer see an alternative future.
The left controls the schools, the media, and the legal system.
Until we undo that, we are just playing with ourselves.
Folks, it is going to burn. It has passed the point of no return.
I don't like that answer, but I no longer see an alternative future.
The left controls the schools, the media, and the legal system.
Until we undo that, we are just playing with ourselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:26 PM (F0Cog)
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I'll revise my post to make California second. I forgot about Utah. At least regard to doomsday food storage.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:27 PM (Q4pU/)
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Adam Carolla on Gutfeld next.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:27 PM (z0HrT)
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Ancient South American cultures ended due to lack of water.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 10:27 PM (CdIQH)
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California will burn like a tinder box if there is some kind of social collapse or upheavel.
Will it be televised? I may have to go loot me a TV...
Will it be televised? I may have to go loot me a TV...
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (KCxzN)
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148
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
Many women tend to see gay men as girlfriends with dicks. I've noticed that many women seem to feel especially flattered when a gay man compliments them on their taste in clothes, furnishings etc. Because "everyone" knows all gay men have great taste, a compliment from one means more than a vague, "hmmm, that's nice dear" from a straight guy. (I have known gay men with terrible taste, but I have to admit they were the exception not the rule).
What women do not like to dwell on is their gay friends' sex lives. I remember a friend of mine once got very indignant when I mentioned that our gay hairdresser probably had had sex with hundreds of guys. "How do you know that," she said. Well, I had overheard him make sly quips about good cruising sports in DC with gay male customers. "I don't think so," she said. "He's been living with his boyfriend for years now." "So what?" I said.
Thinking about male gay promiscuity makes a lot of women very uncomfortable because it's a reminder that they aren't chicks with dicks. They're guys who are frequently obsessed with screwing as many other guys as possible, because they don't have to deal with women saying no to them like straight men do.
Women also tend to gloss over the fact that many (not all by any means) gay men really feel a strong disgust and contempt for women. I once had a gay boss who occasionally let the mask slip: he really didn't like women.
can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
Many women tend to see gay men as girlfriends with dicks. I've noticed that many women seem to feel especially flattered when a gay man compliments them on their taste in clothes, furnishings etc. Because "everyone" knows all gay men have great taste, a compliment from one means more than a vague, "hmmm, that's nice dear" from a straight guy. (I have known gay men with terrible taste, but I have to admit they were the exception not the rule).
What women do not like to dwell on is their gay friends' sex lives. I remember a friend of mine once got very indignant when I mentioned that our gay hairdresser probably had had sex with hundreds of guys. "How do you know that," she said. Well, I had overheard him make sly quips about good cruising sports in DC with gay male customers. "I don't think so," she said. "He's been living with his boyfriend for years now." "So what?" I said.
Thinking about male gay promiscuity makes a lot of women very uncomfortable because it's a reminder that they aren't chicks with dicks. They're guys who are frequently obsessed with screwing as many other guys as possible, because they don't have to deal with women saying no to them like straight men do.
Women also tend to gloss over the fact that many (not all by any means) gay men really feel a strong disgust and contempt for women. I once had a gay boss who occasionally let the mask slip: he really didn't like women.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (+XMAD)
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Yeah, California is screwed in any such event. There's no water without technology, and no food without water.
And they've got the ocean on one side and the desert on the other. Escape will have to be north or south.
Yeah, California is screwed in any such event. There's no water without technology, and no food without water.
And they've got the ocean on one side and the desert on the other. Escape will have to be north or south.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (oVJmc)
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230 The left is bold only because they have not had to face consequences for their actions.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (F0Cog)
So far.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 10:15 PM (F0Cog)
So far.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (oKE6c)
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255: Hell, the only argument against it is inbreeding. I've blown some minds making them realize that their only argument against "same sex incest", where there is no possibility of reproduction, is their own personal revulsion. Which used to be what most people had against the Ghey.
They say, "no, no..." But they know I'm right and it kills them.
Now, just have the brother or sister sterilize themselves, and it's no different.
Legal incest is coming, fast.
They say, "no, no..." But they know I'm right and it kills them.
Now, just have the brother or sister sterilize themselves, and it's no different.
Legal incest is coming, fast.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
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Mormons keep shit tons flour in their houses I think for some 3 and 1/2 year prophecy thingy.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2015 10:30 PM (CdIQH)
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"The left controls the schools, the media, and the legal system."
That means you need to home school your kids. cut your cable and quit going to the movies and deprive that legal system of cent you possibly can.
That means you need to home school your kids. cut your cable and quit going to the movies and deprive that legal system of cent you possibly can.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 10:30 PM (C8x6r)
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It's not a matter of LIB.
Folks, it is going to burn. It has passed the point of no return.
I don't like that answer, but I no longer see an alternative future.
The left controls the schools, the media, and the legal system.
Until we undo that, we are just playing with ourselves.
Lot wasn't really given a fair shake at taking back his city, if you ask me.
Folks, it is going to burn. It has passed the point of no return.
I don't like that answer, but I no longer see an alternative future.
The left controls the schools, the media, and the legal system.
Until we undo that, we are just playing with ourselves.
Lot wasn't really given a fair shake at taking back his city, if you ask me.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:31 PM (Q819Q)
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And they've got the ocean on one side and the desert on the other. Escape will have to be north or south.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (oVJmc)
It would be interesting to see if Mexico is as indulgent of Californian invaders, if the choose to go south, as they expect us to be with their unwanted poor.
Somehow, I doubt the will be.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (oVJmc)
It would be interesting to see if Mexico is as indulgent of Californian invaders, if the choose to go south, as they expect us to be with their unwanted poor.
Somehow, I doubt the will be.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2015 10:32 PM (NPofj)
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the (should read) they in my last sentence above.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2015 10:33 PM (NPofj)
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Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (+XMAD)
That's actually a pretty good way of putting it. It's the 30 and under crowd that find humour/interest in the sex by proxy aspect... which i suspect has something to do with feminism.
That's actually a pretty good way of putting it. It's the 30 and under crowd that find humour/interest in the sex by proxy aspect... which i suspect has something to do with feminism.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:33 PM (39FGM)
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I have 18 months worth of food and a 12 month water supply. Used to think that would be enough until stabilization and now not so sure.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:34 PM (Q4pU/)
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Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
Yes that is my experience too. They say "mumble mumble genetics" but they know that they have no room left to oppose incest. I expect they will try, based on some bullshit feminist patriarchal argument, since most incestual relationships do tend to be older men exploiting younger women, but I expect that will lose.
Yes that is my experience too. They say "mumble mumble genetics" but they know that they have no room left to oppose incest. I expect they will try, based on some bullshit feminist patriarchal argument, since most incestual relationships do tend to be older men exploiting younger women, but I expect that will lose.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:35 PM (+4mdw)
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It would be interesting to see if Mexico is as indulgent of Californian
invaders, if the choose to go south, as they expect us to be with their
unwanted poor.
Somehow, I doubt the will be.
You mean the same Mexico that's busily building a fence on its southern border? Or are we talking about the country that puts illegal aliens in federal prison? I'm pretty sure they'll be reasonable about the whole issue.
invaders, if the choose to go south, as they expect us to be with their
unwanted poor.
Somehow, I doubt the will be.
You mean the same Mexico that's busily building a fence on its southern border? Or are we talking about the country that puts illegal aliens in federal prison? I'm pretty sure they'll be reasonable about the whole issue.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:35 PM (Q819Q)
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Zombie Augusto Pinochet @ 179 - Challenger accepted.
Unfortunately, that is the only option short of full-on burning times.
Unfortunately, that is the only option short of full-on burning times.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:36 PM (HLx1C)
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It blows my mind how many people think there are huge commercial
warehouses or government stockpiles of food, *somewhere close by*, and
that at need, they can just "go get the food".
Mormons got that; but don't expect them to share outside the tribe if/when TSHTF.
It blows my mind how many people think there are huge commercial
warehouses or government stockpiles of food, *somewhere close by*, and
that at need, they can just "go get the food".
Mormons got that; but don't expect them to share outside the tribe if/when TSHTF.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 28, 2015 10:36 PM (c/Ipt)
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g'night, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2015 10:36 PM (KCxzN)
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The inbreeding argument is even weak; it's just a matter of recessive genes coming forward. You could marry a non-relative with the same set of recessive genes and it would be no different.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (BVDFs)
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Those who stand to gain the most from gays "marrying" are divorce lawyers.
Posted by: huerfano at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (bynk/)
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since most incestual relationships do tend to be older men exploiting younger women
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:35 PM (+4mdw)
Erm, I'm not so sure that is actually accurate. Worth noting that it is also a very well established fetish genre in the gay culture.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2015 10:35 PM (+4mdw)
Erm, I'm not so sure that is actually accurate. Worth noting that it is also a very well established fetish genre in the gay culture.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (39FGM)
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I offer this as proof that Weirddave is quite correct:
If you'll head over to Politico, (comments) you'll see that the progs aren't saying things like "This is wonderful - gays and lesbians who love each other can now marry".
No.
They're saying things like "F*ck you, cons!" "Cons are losers!"
And on and on...
Y'all know what I mean
If you'll head over to Politico, (comments) you'll see that the progs aren't saying things like "This is wonderful - gays and lesbians who love each other can now marry".
No.
They're saying things like "F*ck you, cons!" "Cons are losers!"
And on and on...
Y'all know what I mean
Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (M98k8)
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Legal incest is coming, fast.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
That worked out fine for the Muslims. Once again, they show the way: to the ninth century.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
That worked out fine for the Muslims. Once again, they show the way: to the ninth century.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (oKE6c)
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Folsom Street Fair should be required viewing by SCOTUS.
Posted by: torabora at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (hWgwD)
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Consensual sibling incest is not as uncommon as you'd think, either.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (BVDFs)
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Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (39FGM)
I'm thinking it's going to be half siblings who will be the first test case.
I'm thinking it's going to be half siblings who will be the first test case.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:40 PM (Q4pU/)
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282: Hell it's become established in mainstream porn now. They maintain the thin veneer of "step" relationships, but it's "step-dad" banging the step daughters, and lots "Oh, Daddy!" talk. Then you've got the "MILF" "stepmom" joining in with the kids for threesomes and so forth.
It's all over out there.
It's fucking Sodom and Gomorrah right here and now.
It's all over out there.
It's fucking Sodom and Gomorrah right here and now.
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Posted by: Cruzinator at June 28, 2015 10:40 PM (Q4pU/)
My guess, actually, would be twins as the first case.
My guess, actually, would be twins as the first case.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:41 PM (39FGM)
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Our new immigrant classes aren't as picky against cousin-humping.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:41 PM (oVJmc)
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Now, just have the brother or sister sterilize themselves, and it's no different.
Legal incest is coming, fast.
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YES SUCK IT HATERS!
Legal incest is coming, fast.
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YES SUCK IT HATERS!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 28, 2015 10:41 PM (5LOno)
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Folsom Street Fair should be required viewing by SCOTUS.
Posted by: torabora at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (hWgwD)
I don't think Kagan would have much of an aversion to it.
Posted by: torabora at June 28, 2015 10:39 PM (hWgwD)
I don't think Kagan would have much of an aversion to it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (DiZBp)
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280 The inbreeding argument is even weak; it's just a matter of recessive genes coming forward. You could marry a non-relative with the same set of recessive genes and it would be no different.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (BVDFs)
Not a good argument, because finding the same set of recessive genes by chance is very unlikely, whereas it's pretty likely indeed among first degree relations.
Again, watch this Brit documentary (from their version of 60 Minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:37 PM (BVDFs)
Not a good argument, because finding the same set of recessive genes by chance is very unlikely, whereas it's pretty likely indeed among first degree relations.
Again, watch this Brit documentary (from their version of 60 Minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (oKE6c)
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Polygamy? Hah! That's a done deal. Sans economic collapse, within 10 years we will have legalized pedophilia. You may think, no, that won't happen, but that's what I thought about gay marriage back in the '90s. You may think, but this deals with children, not adults of free mind according to law. That is but a small stumbling block. It won't last two seconds.
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Incest, too. Coming to a rights movement near you.
Fuck it all. Let it Burn. FIA-LIB.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:19 PM (dvuhZ)
There is no argument against plural marriages that has not been used against, and dismissed, gay marriage. All that is left is an irrational animus against any number other than two.
As for incest, the only argument against it is that is may produce genetically messed up kids. However, there is no law against purposefully having a kid with a disability. Also, revolting feelings towards incest are not genetically based (Westermarck effect), and there is evidence that incestuous desires may be genetic in nature (Genetic sexual attraction). Also siblings are statistically less likely to have children with disabilities than an older woman... and we don't ban older women from having kids. All that is left is the irrational animus of cultural bigotry.
As for pedophilia? They'll go after ephebophiles and hebephiles first. After all, if a 12 year old can choose to have an abortion because it's "her body her choice" yet she is not capable of consenting to get pregnant in the first place. Between the two, which do you think the Left will yield on?
You see, pedophiles are "born this way", and who are we to judge.
Incest, too. Coming to a rights movement near you.
Fuck it all. Let it Burn. FIA-LIB.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:19 PM (dvuhZ)
There is no argument against plural marriages that has not been used against, and dismissed, gay marriage. All that is left is an irrational animus against any number other than two.
As for incest, the only argument against it is that is may produce genetically messed up kids. However, there is no law against purposefully having a kid with a disability. Also, revolting feelings towards incest are not genetically based (Westermarck effect), and there is evidence that incestuous desires may be genetic in nature (Genetic sexual attraction). Also siblings are statistically less likely to have children with disabilities than an older woman... and we don't ban older women from having kids. All that is left is the irrational animus of cultural bigotry.
As for pedophilia? They'll go after ephebophiles and hebephiles first. After all, if a 12 year old can choose to have an abortion because it's "her body her choice" yet she is not capable of consenting to get pregnant in the first place. Between the two, which do you think the Left will yield on?
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (7YlUk)
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How would you know if relatives got married anyway? You could run off with your sister to someplace where no one knew you.
They don't ask if you're related when you get your license, do they? Been so long since I was married that I don't remember.
They don't ask if you're related when you get your license, do they? Been so long since I was married that I don't remember.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (BVDFs)
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#186 " We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t"."
Remember those birds Obamao hangs with are shooting for a straight up 10% for a start.
Remember those birds Obamao hangs with are shooting for a straight up 10% for a start.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (NaeCR)
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It's all over out there.
It's fucking Sodom and Gomorrah right here and now.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:40 PM (dvuhZ)
Now add one zoonosis jumping the species barrier, and watch the fun.
It's fucking Sodom and Gomorrah right here and now.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:40 PM (dvuhZ)
Now add one zoonosis jumping the species barrier, and watch the fun.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:43 PM (oKE6c)
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Weird Dave, what you've described is my fantasy of poetic justice, karma for these perverted, bullying imbeciles.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 28, 2015 10:43 PM (6qR/9)
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To expand on the idea a little more....
The incest test case will, probably be twins on the grounds of economics... there is a ton of cash to be made in the porn market from catering to that fetish... but producers are learly of pushing it too far on legal grounds. Economics will push it.
The incest test case will, probably be twins on the grounds of economics... there is a ton of cash to be made in the porn market from catering to that fetish... but producers are learly of pushing it too far on legal grounds. Economics will push it.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:43 PM (39FGM)
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254, Cheap Carny - no, I don't think they every starved. The Spanish settlements just never grew beyond a few hundred people, max. Zero infrastructure and dirt trails back to Mexico. Maybe a Spanish ship every few years.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 28, 2015 10:43 PM (/WPPJ)
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Heh. Folks in Krazyfornia have more cars than you can shake a fist at. They will go NEWS as the impulse seizes them. This is a mobile culture.
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, languishing in Krazyfornia at June 28, 2015 10:44 PM (cmBvC)
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They don't ask if you're related when you get your license, do they? Been so long since I was married that I don't remember.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (BVDFs)
They do. They also ask if you were adopted and then they ask more questions about parentage if you were. At least in W.Va where we got married they do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (BVDFs)
They do. They also ask if you were adopted and then they ask more questions about parentage if you were. At least in W.Va where we got married they do.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:46 PM (Q819Q)
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:47 PM (cfFqn)
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Option 2 for the incest test case.... How about parent and child so as to transfer social security benefits?
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:47 PM (39FGM)
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There are something like 141K people in civil unions and gay marriages across the country.
141K!!!!
So we've basically upended the commonly understood definition of marriage to satisfy 0.04% of the population.
Wonderful!
141K!!!!
So we've basically upended the commonly understood definition of marriage to satisfy 0.04% of the population.
Wonderful!
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 10:47 PM (WVvzl)
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Tammy, they don't ask much of anything when you get married now. But they do give you info on state law regarding kids and divorce. Guess they aren't willing to bet on the marriage lasting.
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Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:42 PM (oKE6c)
I just mean that it will be used as an argument in favor of legalizing it. Actual facts won't matter.
I just mean that it will be used as an argument in favor of legalizing it. Actual facts won't matter.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:48 PM (BVDFs)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:48 PM (1brdf)
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Folks in Krazyfornia have more cars than you can shake a fist at. They
will go NEWS as the impulse seizes them. This is a mobile culture.
Moving 40 million people 1000 miles takes a lot of fuel and infrastructure, especially if it happens in a panic.
will go NEWS as the impulse seizes them. This is a mobile culture.
Moving 40 million people 1000 miles takes a lot of fuel and infrastructure, especially if it happens in a panic.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 10:48 PM (oVJmc)
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Hrm. What if I want to double marry my wife? Would that be polygamous? Can I marry myself too?
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:48 PM (Q819Q)
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Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused.
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (cfFqn)
Under American accounting rules, you can't just give someone a thing for a promise and call it a "sale" -- it has to be Collectible [you have to have reasons to believe you'll really see the money], it has to be Delivered [you can't sell someone unicorn farts], there has to be Evidence of the arrangement [no "he said, she said" not-written-down stuff] and the amount we're talking about has to be Fixed and determinable [it can be $100 or 0.100 ounces of 24-carat gold, but it can't be a number taken from a dartboard or roulette wheel].
There are similar rules for debts. If you want to reflect debt as an asset, there has to be some reasonably forseeable way for the debtor to pay you.
During "The Financial Crisis of 2008", it was recognized that many banks had been counting stuff as assets that really wasn't -- things like car loans to drug dealers or 2nd mortgages to people who were underwater on their house. Further, they weren't completely stupid -- they immediately took tons of that toxic shit, packaged it up to look like an investment-grade bond, and sold it to some greater fool. As a condition of sale, however, they had to put some skin in the game with a guarantee.
So, now the original drug-dealers were officially on the hook to the bank on behalf of the pigeons for $100, which the banks balanced out by their assignment agreement to the pigeons to pay over whatever the drug-dealers gave 'em, and the banks who handled all the paperwork were unofficially maybe on the hook to the pigeons for $20.
In response to this, the government commanded that normal accounting rules be suspended and that banks could count that disaster-on-a-stick as good, while the Federal Reserve held interest rates to banks at diddly-dipshit, to see whether they could actually get enough money out of the drug-dealers that the banks wouldn't go bankrupt and be liquidated. Not coincidentally, I haven't been working in accounting of late.
The same farce has been going on in Europe. Greece has been a deadbeat since WWII but wanted to join the EU. The EU winked at fraud and allowed 'em in the door, just like the US bankers winked at the financial security of dealing meth to loan the guy $100,000 for a Porsche. It was clear to everyone on the planet that Greece was a deadbeat and its bonds were as valuable as used Charmin from Day 1 -- but in order to avoid responsibility for letting them in in the first place, the EU has spun and spun and tried to pretend it wasn't charity to send them money.
And now the time has come that someone's going to eat the $300B of bad paper. The banks want Greeks to eat it. The Europeans want Greeks to eat it or the IMF. The IMF has said, "no thanks."
The essential plea that the Greeks have been using most recently is, "if I pay you $3 back, will you loan me another $5?" Their total debt has over doubled since they've started playing that particular game -- and why should they have stopped, being as everybody has known going into this game that someone's going to get stiffed?
Okay someone please explain the coming economic crash regarding Greece and the Euro to me. I am confused.
Posted by: jmel at June 28, 2015 10:06 PM (cfFqn)
Under American accounting rules, you can't just give someone a thing for a promise and call it a "sale" -- it has to be Collectible [you have to have reasons to believe you'll really see the money], it has to be Delivered [you can't sell someone unicorn farts], there has to be Evidence of the arrangement [no "he said, she said" not-written-down stuff] and the amount we're talking about has to be Fixed and determinable [it can be $100 or 0.100 ounces of 24-carat gold, but it can't be a number taken from a dartboard or roulette wheel].
There are similar rules for debts. If you want to reflect debt as an asset, there has to be some reasonably forseeable way for the debtor to pay you.
During "The Financial Crisis of 2008", it was recognized that many banks had been counting stuff as assets that really wasn't -- things like car loans to drug dealers or 2nd mortgages to people who were underwater on their house. Further, they weren't completely stupid -- they immediately took tons of that toxic shit, packaged it up to look like an investment-grade bond, and sold it to some greater fool. As a condition of sale, however, they had to put some skin in the game with a guarantee.
So, now the original drug-dealers were officially on the hook to the bank on behalf of the pigeons for $100, which the banks balanced out by their assignment agreement to the pigeons to pay over whatever the drug-dealers gave 'em, and the banks who handled all the paperwork were unofficially maybe on the hook to the pigeons for $20.
In response to this, the government commanded that normal accounting rules be suspended and that banks could count that disaster-on-a-stick as good, while the Federal Reserve held interest rates to banks at diddly-dipshit, to see whether they could actually get enough money out of the drug-dealers that the banks wouldn't go bankrupt and be liquidated. Not coincidentally, I haven't been working in accounting of late.
The same farce has been going on in Europe. Greece has been a deadbeat since WWII but wanted to join the EU. The EU winked at fraud and allowed 'em in the door, just like the US bankers winked at the financial security of dealing meth to loan the guy $100,000 for a Porsche. It was clear to everyone on the planet that Greece was a deadbeat and its bonds were as valuable as used Charmin from Day 1 -- but in order to avoid responsibility for letting them in in the first place, the EU has spun and spun and tried to pretend it wasn't charity to send them money.
And now the time has come that someone's going to eat the $300B of bad paper. The banks want Greeks to eat it. The Europeans want Greeks to eat it or the IMF. The IMF has said, "no thanks."
The essential plea that the Greeks have been using most recently is, "if I pay you $3 back, will you loan me another $5?" Their total debt has over doubled since they've started playing that particular game -- and why should they have stopped, being as everybody has known going into this game that someone's going to get stiffed?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 10:49 PM (EzgxV)
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Legal incest is coming, fast.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
I think the next thing is going to be NAMBLA going mainstream. That video from the other day of the boy gyrating around shows how they will pervert children in every way.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)
I think the next thing is going to be NAMBLA going mainstream. That video from the other day of the boy gyrating around shows how they will pervert children in every way.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 10:49 PM (DiZBp)
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can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage?
Many women tend to see gay men as girlfriends with dicks. I've noticed that many women seem to feel especially flattered when a gay man compliments them on their taste in clothes, furnishings etc. Because "everyone" knows all gay men have great taste, a compliment from one means more than a vague, "hmmm, that's nice dear" from a straight guy. (I have known gay men with terrible taste, but I have to admit they were the exception not the rule).
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (+XMAD)
This, exactly.
Many women in their 40's have a contempt for men that runs deep. Regardless of whether they have had their own career, they resent the fact that they got married, had kids, take care of the husband, house, etc. hold down a job...All because they believe men simply think with their dicks and are barely one step out of the cave. And those same men look at other women, and sometimes step out with other women, etc.
So with this attitude, overwhelmingly supported by modern culture, TV, women's magazines, TMZ, social media, and the bitchfests that go on with some women when they get together with their girlfriends, they find a gay man represents none of those things. He is truly a better man.
Which is why they are so upset when you point out that gay men are capable of doing the same awful things straight men do.
They just do it with better clothes and in nicer bedrooms.
Many women tend to see gay men as girlfriends with dicks. I've noticed that many women seem to feel especially flattered when a gay man compliments them on their taste in clothes, furnishings etc. Because "everyone" knows all gay men have great taste, a compliment from one means more than a vague, "hmmm, that's nice dear" from a straight guy. (I have known gay men with terrible taste, but I have to admit they were the exception not the rule).
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at June 28, 2015 10:28 PM (+XMAD)
This, exactly.
Many women in their 40's have a contempt for men that runs deep. Regardless of whether they have had their own career, they resent the fact that they got married, had kids, take care of the husband, house, etc. hold down a job...All because they believe men simply think with their dicks and are barely one step out of the cave. And those same men look at other women, and sometimes step out with other women, etc.
So with this attitude, overwhelmingly supported by modern culture, TV, women's magazines, TMZ, social media, and the bitchfests that go on with some women when they get together with their girlfriends, they find a gay man represents none of those things. He is truly a better man.
Which is why they are so upset when you point out that gay men are capable of doing the same awful things straight men do.
They just do it with better clothes and in nicer bedrooms.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 10:50 PM (OB/ib)
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I'm going to marry a stuffed penguin. Why? Why the fuck not? Anything goes now apparently.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2015 10:50 PM (mx5oN)
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Katherine Timpf is still adorkable.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 10:50 PM (XHz/D)
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Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:48 PM (1brdf)
Exactly!
Down towards Filthadelphia there was a "gay" couple that was an adopted Father/son..so as to avoid estate taxes... they have since gotten "married".
Exactly!
Down towards Filthadelphia there was a "gay" couple that was an adopted Father/son..so as to avoid estate taxes... they have since gotten "married".
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:50 PM (39FGM)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 10:52 PM (BVDFs)
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It has always amused me that those most dependent upon a functioning Western Civilization are the most eager to tear it down.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:52 PM (HLx1C)
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I think the next thing is going to be NAMBLA going
mainstream. That video from the other day of the boy gyrating around
shows how they will pervert children in every way.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 10:49 PM (DiZBp)
As was long ago foreseen.
The Left's goal here is to delegitimize American society, to make us experience revulsion at what we've become, and thus to soften us up for a fundamental change in society.
mainstream. That video from the other day of the boy gyrating around
shows how they will pervert children in every way.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 10:49 PM (DiZBp)
As was long ago foreseen.
The Left's goal here is to delegitimize American society, to make us experience revulsion at what we've become, and thus to soften us up for a fundamental change in society.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:53 PM (oKE6c)
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It has always amused me that those most dependent upon a functioning Western Civilization are the most eager to tear it down.
Kids. "I don't need your rules, Dad! I'm going to run away and never talk to you again!"
Kids. "I don't need your rules, Dad! I'm going to run away and never talk to you again!"
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 10:54 PM (Q819Q)
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It has always amused me that those most dependent upon a functioning Western Civilization are the most eager to tear it down.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:52 PM (HLx1C)
That's just it. What the feeble minded SJWs don't seem to understand is oppressive Western countries are the only thing standing between them and a quick trip off the top of a building.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:52 PM (HLx1C)
That's just it. What the feeble minded SJWs don't seem to understand is oppressive Western countries are the only thing standing between them and a quick trip off the top of a building.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 10:54 PM (DiZBp)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (1brdf)
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It's worth noting that NAMBLA was a welcome participant at the Pride parades until the activists decided to gentrify to appeal to the normal people.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (39FGM)
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The Left's goal here is to delegitimize American society
They want to airbrush it out of the picture as Stalin did to that guy in the sidebar.
They want to airbrush it out of the picture as Stalin did to that guy in the sidebar.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 10:56 PM (W5DcG)
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#186 " We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t"."
I don't think it would take that many. Recall the Freikorps responded to the Spartacus uprising in 1919 Germany by taking out Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and 700 of their comrades, and that pretty much knocked the KPD on its ass until the Depression.
I don't think it would take that many. Recall the Freikorps responded to the Spartacus uprising in 1919 Germany by taking out Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and 700 of their comrades, and that pretty much knocked the KPD on its ass until the Depression.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:57 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 10:58 PM (NaeCR)
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323 It's worth noting that NAMBLA was a welcome participant at the Pride parades until the activists decided to gentrify to appeal to the normal people.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (39FGM)
Yes. Says it all, doesn't it? The decision to exclude them wasn't based on philosophy or morality, it was based solely on tactical considerations.
Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (39FGM)
Yes. Says it all, doesn't it? The decision to exclude them wasn't based on philosophy or morality, it was based solely on tactical considerations.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:58 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:59 PM (1brdf)
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It's worth noting that NAMBLA was a welcome participant at the Pride
parades until the activists decided to gentrify to appeal to the normal
people.
Yes, the gay rights separation from NAMBLA wasn't based on moral revulsion, it was based on PR.
parades until the activists decided to gentrify to appeal to the normal
people.
Yes, the gay rights separation from NAMBLA wasn't based on moral revulsion, it was based on PR.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 28, 2015 10:59 PM (c/Ipt)
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>can anyone please explain to me why my peers - 40ish rich white housefraus - are so very invested in Gay Marriage
I believe they like interacting with a male who is generally not terribly masculine, and certainly not interested in them sexually. It's a man who acts like a woman--how cool is that?! Gay marriage is the whole "princess for a day" that most weddings are, and they can share that with the male in this case. There was some joke I saw a week or two ago about women feeling left out about being unable to find a "gay best friend" because all the girls have one,
But in the long run, marriage has been catastrophically destroyed by heteros. No-fault "frivorce" did so much damage to the institution of marriage that there wasn't much left to save. As someone who had divorce forced on him, I have first-hand experience.
The real loser here is Christianity in the US. Church attendance has been falling for a long time. Many of us, myself included, will not participate in a church that performs gay weddings. But very soon, the Feds will take a test case that will quickly reach SCOTUS, and will *force* churches to perform gay weddings. If church attendance (at least Protestant) hasn't fallen, oh, 30-50% in 5 years, I will be surprised.
And nature abhors a vacuum. I drove through the city today, and veiled and burkha-wearing women seemed to be everywhere. And seeing them in stores and such, I can tell you that most are American-born. They chose Islam over Christianity. As Weirddave said, things could get really nasty, very soon, for gay people. I wish no violence to any gay person. But if they thought "intolerant" Christians were bad, wait until they meet folks happy to stone them to death, chop them to chum, or drop them off rooftops.
I believe they like interacting with a male who is generally not terribly masculine, and certainly not interested in them sexually. It's a man who acts like a woman--how cool is that?! Gay marriage is the whole "princess for a day" that most weddings are, and they can share that with the male in this case. There was some joke I saw a week or two ago about women feeling left out about being unable to find a "gay best friend" because all the girls have one,
But in the long run, marriage has been catastrophically destroyed by heteros. No-fault "frivorce" did so much damage to the institution of marriage that there wasn't much left to save. As someone who had divorce forced on him, I have first-hand experience.
The real loser here is Christianity in the US. Church attendance has been falling for a long time. Many of us, myself included, will not participate in a church that performs gay weddings. But very soon, the Feds will take a test case that will quickly reach SCOTUS, and will *force* churches to perform gay weddings. If church attendance (at least Protestant) hasn't fallen, oh, 30-50% in 5 years, I will be surprised.
And nature abhors a vacuum. I drove through the city today, and veiled and burkha-wearing women seemed to be everywhere. And seeing them in stores and such, I can tell you that most are American-born. They chose Islam over Christianity. As Weirddave said, things could get really nasty, very soon, for gay people. I wish no violence to any gay person. But if they thought "intolerant" Christians were bad, wait until they meet folks happy to stone them to death, chop them to chum, or drop them off rooftops.
Posted by: Agent J at June 28, 2015 10:59 PM (ueOgE)
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Another argument against polygamy: Isn't dealing with one wife enough of a headache?
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:59 PM (HLx1C)
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325 Jay, we need the Google metadata files for targeting.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 28, 2015 10:59 PM (u82oZ)
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#186 " We're talking mass murder that would make Mao Zedong go "Holy S**t"."
I
don't think it would take that many. Recall the Freikorps responded to
the Spartacus uprising in 1919 Germany by taking out Rosa Luxemburg,
Karl Liebknecht, and 700 of their comrades, and that pretty much knocked
the KPD on its ass until the Depression.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:57 PM (oKE6c)
Yeah, a lot of these braves SJWs would surrender faster than the Republican Party at the sight of real opposition
I
don't think it would take that many. Recall the Freikorps responded to
the Spartacus uprising in 1919 Germany by taking out Rosa Luxemburg,
Karl Liebknecht, and 700 of their comrades, and that pretty much knocked
the KPD on its ass until the Depression.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2015 10:57 PM (oKE6c)
Yeah, a lot of these braves SJWs would surrender faster than the Republican Party at the sight of real opposition
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 11:02 PM (DiZBp)
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It occurs to me that "cat's paw" is just an alternate spelling of "useful idiot."
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:02 PM (1brdf)
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It occurs to me that "cat's paw" is just an alternate spelling of "useful idiot."
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:02 PM (1brdf)
LIV: uhhh... like what's useful mean?
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:02 PM (1brdf)
LIV: uhhh... like what's useful mean?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2015 11:03 PM (DiZBp)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:04 PM (1brdf)
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TheQuietMan @ 321 - The only thing between them and terminal velocity is those icky straight traditional men.
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 11:04 PM (HLx1C)
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And even though they have "separated" from NAMBLA, I still ask who will be the next gay agenda activist that is caught and sent to prison for sex with an underage teen?
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2015 11:05 PM (zt+N6)
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And they've got the ocean on one side and the desert on the other. Escape will have to be north or south.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
Like Baja California would be an escape from the briny deep and deserts... Hello Oregon!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
Like Baja California would be an escape from the briny deep and deserts... Hello Oregon!
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 11:05 PM (NaeCR)
340
Modern bravery consists of jumping on self-congratulating bandwagons.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at June 28, 2015 11:05 PM (+s5bL)
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Not even a weekend passes before they call for the end of tax exemptions:
http://tinyurl.com/nwaovrb
http://tinyurl.com/nwaovrb
Posted by: biscuits mahoney at June 28, 2015 11:06 PM (NL4NV)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:06 PM (1brdf)
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. I've blown some minds making them realize that their only argument
against "same sex incest", where there is no possibility of
reproduction, is their own personal revulsion. Which used to be what
most people had against the Ghey.
Keep an open mind and Bing 'marcela sisters'
against "same sex incest", where there is no possibility of
reproduction, is their own personal revulsion. Which used to be what
most people had against the Ghey.
Keep an open mind and Bing 'marcela sisters'
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 11:08 PM (NaeCR)
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and I'm convinced that when the imams start cutting heads stateside the gheys will fully expect the protection of the American culture and military they've spent the last three decades savaging.
Posted by: MAx at June 28, 2015 11:09 PM (YJeFl)
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"If the current social order and American culture collapses, one of two movements"
I'm waiting for the Texans to finally show there was a reason they were admitted into the Union, besides providing access to oversize belt buckles. Big talkers should be big doers for liberty, and that state is our best and maybe only hope--maybe not the last true bastion of Americans willing to do something vice suffer something, but a bastion nonetheless--a bastion of folks who won't be hoping the Progs don't march them off to whatever today's equivalent of camps will be.
The time is not now. But as Jefferson said, when the moment comes, be ready. As Massachusetts in 1769, so Texas today. May prudence and sobriety guide those in it.
I'm waiting for the Texans to finally show there was a reason they were admitted into the Union, besides providing access to oversize belt buckles. Big talkers should be big doers for liberty, and that state is our best and maybe only hope--maybe not the last true bastion of Americans willing to do something vice suffer something, but a bastion nonetheless--a bastion of folks who won't be hoping the Progs don't march them off to whatever today's equivalent of camps will be.
The time is not now. But as Jefferson said, when the moment comes, be ready. As Massachusetts in 1769, so Texas today. May prudence and sobriety guide those in it.
Posted by: Marshal Ney, Commander of the Rear Guard at June 28, 2015 11:09 PM (UKhBB)
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Speaking of NAMBLA . . . one of the great obstructions to homosexualist progress has been the Catholic Church. What has most deligitimized the Catholic Church? The pedophilia scandal --except that it has not been pedophila, but overwhelmingly pederasty, men raping pubescent males, not pre-pubescent boys . . . IOW, fairly garden variety homesexual relations.
Sorry, homos, but you fucked the chicken on that issue.
Sorry, homos, but you fucked the chicken on that issue.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 11:09 PM (z0HrT)
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so if same sex marriage is ok, why is incest so bad?
no incest sounds really like a lot of discrimination
no incest sounds really like a lot of discrimination
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (PY/7D)
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The left has been jonesing for churches to lose tax exemptions for a long time. As someone upthread said, most leftist believe churches are simply money shams taking money from the poor and the ignorant, promising them in exchange, immortality and a heavenly reward from their fake "sky daddy". They will cite myriad examples, from televangelists like Jim Bakker to the Catholic priests pedophile cases, to the churches generally brainwashing individuals into hating those who aren't like them , etc.
This isnt' new, but they believe they now have more ammo to make this happen.
This isnt' new, but they believe they now have more ammo to make this happen.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (OB/ib)
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As for polyamory, my new husbands step daughter is into that. They were considering doing a reality show about her. She and her husband live off his family. I don't know how many other relationships she has. She likes to post crap on Facebook about the evil patriarchy and how her poor mama was such a victim. If she's anything to go by, I'd say polys are as vicious as gays.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (Lqy/e)
350
ONT up.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:11 PM (p7dd/)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 28, 2015 11:12 PM (oVJmc)
352
Well, there *is* one really forceful argument against polygamy:
Multiple mothers-in-law.
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (1brdf)
Unless you marry brothers or sisters.
Multiple mothers-in-law.
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 10:55 PM (1brdf)
Unless you marry brothers or sisters.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2015 11:15 PM (NPofj)
353
whether one has a penis or a vagina is no different than being tall as opposed to short.
****
If you're recumbent that could be an all-important determinant of height.
****
If you're recumbent that could be an all-important determinant of height.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 28, 2015 11:26 PM (mvenn)
354
The left has been jonesing for churches to lose tax
exemptions for a long time.
As a practicing Christian and faithful church member, I have been too. Not that churches should pay taxes, but that if the options are paying taxes or being subject to governmental meddling, I'll pay taxes every day. God didn't promise us that life would be easy.
exemptions for a long time.
As a practicing Christian and faithful church member, I have been too. Not that churches should pay taxes, but that if the options are paying taxes or being subject to governmental meddling, I'll pay taxes every day. God didn't promise us that life would be easy.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (Q819Q)
355
Folks in Krazyfornia have more cars than you can shake a fist at. They
will go NEWS as the impulse seizes them. This is a mobile culture.
As a whole, they ain't going anywhere, the first out with sufficient fuel will be guys who run gas pumps.
will go NEWS as the impulse seizes them. This is a mobile culture.
As a whole, they ain't going anywhere, the first out with sufficient fuel will be guys who run gas pumps.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2015 11:35 PM (NaeCR)
356
Well, at this rate it will only take a few more left leaning decisions for the BoR to get replaced.
Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at June 28, 2015 11:42 PM (4pjhs)
357
Well, there *is* one really forceful argument against polygamy:
----
How 'bout civilization really takes off once polygamy is abandoned?
In polygamous societies, you get a large percentage of young men who can't find a wife. So they're an easily-riled mass of anger.
This is one of the main problems in the Middle East. Old men take the young women, then tell the angry young men, "Hey, you know why your life stinks? Israel and America, that's why!"
----
How 'bout civilization really takes off once polygamy is abandoned?
In polygamous societies, you get a large percentage of young men who can't find a wife. So they're an easily-riled mass of anger.
This is one of the main problems in the Middle East. Old men take the young women, then tell the angry young men, "Hey, you know why your life stinks? Israel and America, that's why!"
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 11:51 PM (1RqFl)
358
God didn't promise us that life would be easy.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion
----
In fact, He promised us the polar opposite of that.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion
----
In fact, He promised us the polar opposite of that.
Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (1RqFl)
359
The NAZIs assassinated about 400 politicians that stood in their way. Then they were unexpectedly elected and took power. I lived around Washington City during the sniper time and everything shut down in some areas. People made thousands filling up other folks' cars because someone got shot at a gas station. This country has never seen serious violence backed by politics. Even during the height of the '60s when there were marches and bombings the bombs were small and usually not reported and the authorities won virtually every gunfight.
If there were armed civil conflict of any sort from the Right of the current communist collective I think most passive supporters would watch on the internet and TV, hide their own guns and go along with the resulting martial law. And as said above, most of the military leadership lives in Pentagon City and plays the game. They would be happy to lock down the population regardless of the regular troops' feelings about it.
If there were armed civil conflict of any sort from the Right of the current communist collective I think most passive supporters would watch on the internet and TV, hide their own guns and go along with the resulting martial law. And as said above, most of the military leadership lives in Pentagon City and plays the game. They would be happy to lock down the population regardless of the regular troops' feelings about it.
Posted by: Daybrother at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (9o75O)
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The other thing is: Just like the Civil War wasn't just about slavey at all, Civil War II would forever be characterized as the war against gays or against medical care or some such crap.
This morning I tried to watch Chuck Todd for a while and he teased the next segment as, "After the Civil War the Confederate flag disappeared but was revived decades later as a symbol of segregation". Riiiiight. That's when I watched a movie instead.
This morning I tried to watch Chuck Todd for a while and he teased the next segment as, "After the Civil War the Confederate flag disappeared but was revived decades later as a symbol of segregation". Riiiiight. That's when I watched a movie instead.
Posted by: Daybrother at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (9o75O)
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The NAZIs assassinated about 400 politicians that stood in their way. Then they were unexpectedly elected and took power.
Why go that far when you only have to leak your opponents divorce record.
Why go that far when you only have to leak your opponents divorce record.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 29, 2015 12:44 AM (NaeCR)
362
After the second chestnut my cats would have beat the shit out of the monkey and ate him.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 04:58 AM (GpgJl)
363
330 They are bored, shallow women with no chests -- much like their counterpart males.
The straight fascination and unquestioning support of the gay agenda has everything to do with constantly wanting a nummy in their mouth. They want to feel good, consider themselves nice, cool, hip. They dig being spiritual, but hate being religious -- because that's a drag (and takes real thought, real effort, and no mental nummy nums placed in your mouth all day long).
You know, the same thing our society has been infected with since beyond the 60s. It's just reached critical mass now.
The next election will decide the country's fate. It may take a decade to see it, but it will. No, it isn't here quite yet, but now...two years tops before the door finally closes.
Praying might be a good thing to take up -- we are most definitely all in foxholes now.
The straight fascination and unquestioning support of the gay agenda has everything to do with constantly wanting a nummy in their mouth. They want to feel good, consider themselves nice, cool, hip. They dig being spiritual, but hate being religious -- because that's a drag (and takes real thought, real effort, and no mental nummy nums placed in your mouth all day long).
You know, the same thing our society has been infected with since beyond the 60s. It's just reached critical mass now.
The next election will decide the country's fate. It may take a decade to see it, but it will. No, it isn't here quite yet, but now...two years tops before the door finally closes.
Praying might be a good thing to take up -- we are most definitely all in foxholes now.
Posted by: unknown j. at June 29, 2015 08:41 AM (0EjYp)
364
At the end of the day a useful idiot is still an idiot. The ivory tower, parlor pink radicals who are behind all of this don't seem to realize that if the "new order" that they are trying for had happened in the Soviet era, there would have been no place for them at the top. The country would have been run by commissars from Moscow. Now, there are no commissars so they will try to run things themselves even though they are completely unfit to do so. We'll just have to hope and pray they fail before they do too much damage.
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