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John Nolte: The Only Difference Between Bill Ayers and Dylann Roof is That One Is Beloved by the Left and Is Obama's Good Pal
Yes, exactly.
I was pretty angry to read organs of the left putting out the claim that conservatives weren't calling the Roof murders "racist" or "terrorist." In the first minutes, when all reports are fuzzy and likely wrong, sure, people were careful about saying "We don't know the reasons for this yet." Similar to how the left says "We don't know the reasons for this yet" when jihadists saw people's heads off. Except, of course, that when we did know the reasons, we called Roof what he was: a racist murderer and terrorist. Pardon us for not wanting to be pressurized by the social (and anti-social media) into buying into yet another lie. ("My friend had his hands up and said 'don't shoot.'" Lie.) But yes, facts in hand, absolutely, we deal with reality, and the reality is that Roof is a terrorist and a racist. Meanwhile, the left and the media -- but I repeat myself -- continues to pretend that Bill Ayers was just a political reformer with a hobbyist interest in watches, batteries, and fertilizer.Q: What's the difference between Bill Ayers and Dylann Roof? A: Dylann Roof isn't a friend and colleague of an American president who enjoyed a cushy life in academia before retiring to life as the kind of author who's invited on-the-air by the mainstream media to hawk his books. Other than that, both of these pigs share much in common. Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Dylann Roof is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Bill Ayers despises America. Dylann Roof despises America. Bill Ayers’s terror group The Weather Underground targeted and murdered innocent people. Dylann Roof targeted and murdered innocent people. Bill Ayers used murder and violence and terror as a weapon for political change. Dylann Roof used murder and violence and terror as a weapon for political change. Bill Ayers wanted a race war. Dylann Roof wants a race war.When you ask people on the right if they believe that someone's objection to his status or the political status quo gives him the justification to murder people, he'll say: No. That's terrorism. If you ask someone on the left, the answer is: It's complicated. It's complicated by the question of who is the "Oppressed" in the relationship -- those in the role of "The Oppressed" have the right to commit terrorism (which is then called "resistance"). And then they have the balls to claim that we equivocate on the definition of a terrorist. Incidentally, I know Obama has always claimed that Bill Ayers was "just a guy from around the neighborhood." Funny thing, that-- he said the same thing about Jon Gruber. And then O! How they laughed! Lying to the American public, and committing perjury before the Supreme Court, is just a bit of cheeky, randy behavior from some lovable scalawags. Just a guy from around the office. No big whoop.
From Ferguson to Charleston and beyond, anguish about race keeps building http://t.co/BLWVzFQxcN pic.twitter.com/jtuZHRiBji
— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 21, 2015can i ask which other races you invite to "look at themselves as bad people"? @nytimes
— TheUltraYachtLife (@AceofSpadesHQ) June 21, 2015Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 01:43 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Emily Latella at June 22, 2015 01:44 PM (ISxUB)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 22, 2015 01:44 PM (UhRGU)
It was because of his use of a militarized assault derringer with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:44 PM (kff5f)
Wasn't he trying to start a race war?
He was also friendly with the right people IIRC.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at June 22, 2015 01:44 PM (XlHZs)
Didn't he have his entire flock -- mostly minorities -- kill themselves? That sounds like a hate crime to me.
He was also friendly with the right people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:45 PM (AkOaV)
not to mention, hate crime
Posted by: Georgette Soros at June 22, 2015 01:45 PM (qCMvj)
There are so many things that "should have been the end of his presidential aspirations," that I think they kind of folded up on themselves like a quantum singularity of SCOAMTyness.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:45 PM (kff5f)
If everyone Roof ever read is now the functional equivalent of the terrorist training camp from Patriot Games...then let's talk jihad, baby. And lefty terror too.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 01:45 PM (Iv/Hw)
I still think Breitbart's Dinner at Bill's was one of the funniest things ever.
"Bill, that dinner was the bomb."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:46 PM (FsuaD)
And the iconic t-shirts with a heroic looking Roof.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 01:46 PM (g1DWB)
***
damn his dreamy eyes!
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 01:46 PM (Iv/Hw)
Don't even get me started on the poser pretending to be the Pope.
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at June 22, 2015 01:46 PM (4CRfK)
Posted by: just saying at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (sPO3u)
And Bill Ayers has never even pretended to be repentant. He was (ironically) interviewed for the September 11, 2001 edition of (I think) the NYT's where he said his only regret was that they didn't go farther.
And now Bill Ayers writes school textbooks for our yutes in primary education and teaches a college course or two to our yutes in "higher education".
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (AkOaV)
They got caught lying through their fucking teeth and they want to just laugh it off.
And the fucking MSM will just laugh along with them.
*blood pressure rising...
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (XlHZs)
***
or his Citibank lawsuit.
But fuckwad mccain didn't want to attack the guy for whom he was preparing his concession speech
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (Iv/Hw)
***
or his Citibank lawsuit.
But fuckwad mccain didn't want to attack the guy for whom he was preparing his concession speech
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (Iv/Hw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:47 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (kivUY)
Ask any liberal and they'll tell you that the NAZIs were Right Wing nut jobs.
Posted by: Daybrother at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (EQW5B)
If this were still a serious nation, lying charlatans like Clyburn would have zero credibility.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (7ObY1)
Breitbart was hilarious. I'm not sure which was funnier: his going to the "charity dinner" at the Ayers' house, or his taking over Weiners presser during the whole #hacked thing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (AkOaV)
But of course he was a crazy, evil murderer. No one disputes that.
Posted by: Lea at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (lIU4e)
This world is not just.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (rwI+c)
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1//1!?!!??!/1!1/?/
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (HSmrB)
Thank goodness I have a strong stomach.
Everything seems backwards and upside down.
The brainwashing is a tidal wave.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (qCMvj)
His relationship with Ayers should have been the end of his presidential aspirations.
There are so many things that "should have been the end of his
presidential aspirations," that I think they kind of folded up on
themselves like a quantum singularity of SCOAMTyness.
Exactly. I remember we sailed into the 2012 election thinking that Obama could not possibly be reelected.
Posted by: Null at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (xjpRj)
Breitbart was hilarious. I'm not sure which was
funnier: his going to the "charity dinner" at the Ayers' house, or his
taking over Weiners presser during the whole #hacked thing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:48 PM (AkOaV)
Lol. I'd forgotten about Weiner's presser.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (FsuaD)
I will say this about Dean: I don't think he was "in on" the lie.
I think he's too... renegade to be brought "into the know" on insider D stuff.
Guys kind of a loose cannon if you haven't noticed.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (AkOaV)
Please tell me that's not MP4's new tag...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (fwARV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (FsuaD)
It was a classic. One of the funniest moments in politics.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Jack at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Doomed at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (bGLSw)
Criminal pigs are rated by wealth, class and status, not to mention campaign donations, by the Democrats. It's ugly.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (FsuaD)
It was a classic. One of the funniest moments in politics.
One of the few victories we've had in recent memory. I was dancing around the living room cheering at the TV like my team had just won the Super Bowl.
Andy Breitbart is so missed.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)
The only people who think Roof is a TEA (Taxed Enough Already is a bit of a stretch for a guy who didn't pay taxes) Party member are mouth breathing Serbians with performance anxiety issues. Nobody of consequence.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 01:52 PM (g1DWB)
But that reality is not politically useful. The shooting is not useful to the left unless it can be attached to a political narrative. Stormdoor, cannot have acted alone. "He didn't build that," but the killings must be attached to something the left hates like southern whites or the Confederate flag.
They blame the killings on the Confederate flag, which allows a large group of utterly useless people to rally around a cause and get a temporary ego fix because they are "change agents(TM)."
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 01:52 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: maddogg at June 22, 2015 01:53 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 01:51 PM (7ObY1)
Yeah. He really was... something.
And fearless.
Which is rare. Especially on our side.
That took all kinds of balls to just stroll up to the podium and start taking questions. But he did it with a smile on his face.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:53 PM (AkOaV)
Not yet. He's a result of the the American Racist Whiteguy Zeitgeist. We are all guilty.
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 01:53 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: joncelli, begging Kate Upton for correction at June 22, 2015 01:53 PM (RD7QR)
Well, it's a lot harder to gin up the racial tensions when everyone agrees on the series of events and who the bad guys are.
That's why the MFM (delenda est) always picks cases like Michael Brown or Trayvon Martin- because such cases can be counted on to be divisive. Had Martin or Brown really been innocent, there would have been no controversy.
Which tells you something about a couple of groups of people, when you think about it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 22, 2015 01:54 PM (XOXvq)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 01:54 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Al Charlatan at June 22, 2015 01:54 PM (6qR/9)
Posted by: simplemind at June 22, 2015 01:54 PM (5vV+V)
Well, that's more than can be said of his former girlfriend who blew herself up building a bomb that they planned to plant at an NCO's dance at fort dix.
IIRC, nobody went to jail that little oops moment.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)
What are Whiteys supposed to do that will magically solve everything? The only things they'll say are the same vague nonsense Obama's been spouting about gun control.
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (Lre/J)
So far, the reactions of everybody involved in Charleston has given me a
brief glimmer of hope. Delray and Sharptoon have been shot down. The
MFM may succeed in creating another Ferguson but it doesn't look like it
now.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 01:50 PM (XUKZU)
I attribute the difference to the difference in the "victims".
Ferguson? Deep down, they all knew there was no "victim". A thug got shot, and a bunch of other thugs showed up to riot.
Charleston? A bunch of church-going, Christian people got shot by a vicious psycho. How did they react? By praying and forgiving him.
Hard to piggyback a riot onto that.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: maddogg
Early threadwinner.
Posted by: Daybrother at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (EQW5B)
You'll settle for Kim Kardashian chastising you.
You'll get Rosie O'Donnell.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (kivUY)
Ooooooooh I need a dirty woman
Ooooooooh I need a dirty girl.
Ooooooooh I need a dirty woman
Ooooooooh I need a dirty girl.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (XUKZU)
He may not have been in on it, but he knows as well as the rest of us that this whole thing was built on a lie from day one.
He defended that POS law from the beginning. And I will guarantee you that he thinks the SCOTUS should rule in favor of Obamacare.
This new info completely exposes the lies he defended, even as he knew it was all bullshit. And watching those scumbags sit there and laugh about it is infuriating in the extreme.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (XlHZs)
And Democrat Bob Shrum laments who awful it would have been if those black churchgoers had been able to shoot back at their armed assailant.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 01:56 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 01:56 PM (7ObY1)
But what I wrote in the last thread, I still believe. And that is that Charleston is not buying into their shit. They're telling the race hustlers to get out of town.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 01:57 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: just saying at June 22, 2015 01:57 PM (wkuqO)
They are amazing people. I don't know how they can do that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (3M6RX)
It's the same arguments the Left always employs against guns: blood in the streets, "untrained," blah, blah.
And, yes, it's the real racism. Democrats like Bob Scrotum (that is how you spell his name, right?) are so afraid of empowered, gun-owning blacks that they'd rather have them completely helpless.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (FsuaD)
I seem to recall Dean complaining that O'Care was a hand out to the insurance companies and that every smart person knows the only solution is single payer.
but, yes, at the end of the day, of course he toes the D party line and repeats the talking points.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (AkOaV)
That's the part that is so nauseating. They were so nice that it took him hours to screw up the courage to murder little old ladies.
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (rwI+c)
What he is, though, is a batshit crazy, evil murderer - that much is certain.
Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (Db4mp)
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (6xtq3)
* * *
That means white leftists are finally saying out loud what they've always kinda-sorta said obliquely through black leftists: To merely be white is to be a racist and guilty of racism.
Posted by: Doomed at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (3M6RX)
It takes tremendous strength.
And that strength is based on FAITH.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (wtvvX)
Blacks, conservatives, rednecks, "white trash"... yeah, just about everyone who isnt them and their social circle.
And why would they need guns? That's what the armed security and gated communities are for.
Plus, in their ritzy suburbs, police are never more than 3-5 minutes away.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (3M6RX)
Simple, really. Because forgiveness is a requirement of being a Christian. You don't have to forget, but you DO have to forgive, if you expect forgiveness in turn from God.
Posted by: maddogg at June 22, 2015 02:00 PM (xWW96)
But really, what is race but a social construct?
Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at June 22, 2015 02:00 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: maddogg at June 22, 2015 02:00 PM (xWW96)
Disclaimer: "Simple" != "Easy."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 02:01 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: joncelli, begging Kate Upton for correction at June 22, 2015 01:53 PM
Yes, Kate, you must give us all a good spanking! And then...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 02:01 PM (h4vJk)
* * *
They do it because they're well aware of how much they themselves have been forgiven by God at the cross of Christ.
Posted by: Doomed at June 22, 2015 02:01 PM (bGLSw)
Indeed. Even believing as I do that the slain are martyrs rejoicing in the arms of their Savior today, I would find it shattering were they one of mine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 02:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Kenway at June 22, 2015 02:02 PM (G5h6S)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 22, 2015 02:02 PM (wq4B0)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)
Ayers skated out because of an illegal FBI wire tap. To this day I think that was intentional to allow him to walk. Don't forget his father was a rich liberal working for Commonwealth Edison in Chicago..
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (GpgJl)
It's true, but it's still hard. I'm not sure I could do it. That's why they amaze me.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (3M6RX)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (i0ykY)
Gun owners are killers just by owning guns.
Posted by: Daybrother at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (EQW5B)
The Confederate Battle Flag made Roof murder the unarmed members of the church. Or was it Red Bull?
Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (P330y)
What he is, though, is a batshit crazy, evil murderer - that much is certain.
Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (Db4mp)
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on the "racist" crap. This racist had a black "drinking buddy" who were such good friends they had access to his gun, and actually kept it for him. He's a racists the same way Obama is a genius.
He's a drug addled loser, who decided to kill a bunch of black Christians in a church. And the press doesn't want to talk about how they were Christians.
Posted by: Iblis at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (3M6RX)
It takes tremendous strength.
And that strength is based on FAITH.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 01:59 PM (wtvvX)
Amen.
I can't get over him sitting in the prayer meeting for so long and then almost backing out because they were so nice. That is the part that keeps coming back to me.
Posted by: Lea at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (lIU4e)
black churchgoers had been able to shoot back at their armed assailant.
It would have been awful for him if TinyDick had been taken down with only one or two innocent people getting hit: what would he pontificate about? How could he use that to further himself and his party's goals? He wouldn't even be able to mention it...
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 02:04 PM (ZKzrr)
martyrs rejoicing in the arms of their Savior today, I would find it
shattering were they one of mine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 02:02 PM (rwI+c)
I don't profess to be The Ultimate Christian, that's for sure.
But what faith I have, I am grateful that it has not been put to the test to the extreme that theirs has.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 02:04 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: typical liberal at June 22, 2015 02:05 PM (Z+7WE)
Actually, the church has a number of white members.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 01:58 PM (FsuaD)
But but but the MFM calls it a "historically black church".
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 02:06 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Grump928(C) misanthrope at June 22, 2015 02:02 PM (rwI+c)
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Just because they forgive doesn't mean that their lives aren't shattered. It doesn't mean there isn't overwhelming grief. It just means they have a faith in a power greater than themselves that let this happen for a reason. Maybe it's so they can be the witnesses to God's ultimate love for us.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 02:06 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Old Hob at June 22, 2015 02:06 PM (Z+7WE)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 22, 2015 02:06 PM (oDCMR)
Sounds about right.
I know Ayers skated on any charges related to what his co-conspirators were doing with bombs, but didn't know the backstory... Makes sense.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:07 PM (AkOaV)
To this day I think that was intentional to allow him to walk. Don't
forget his father was a rich liberal working for Commonwealth Edison in
Chicago..
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 02:03 PM (GpgJl)
How ironic that his protege oversees the greatest illegal, internal spying machine ever unleashed on this Nation...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 02:07 PM (wtvvX)
You know what they are doing right now? They are being witnesses for the whole country, showing what true faith can be.
God bless them all.
Posted by: Lea at June 22, 2015 02:07 PM (lIU4e)
actually, confederates are worse than nazis. at least the nazis didnt take up arms against their own country
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 02:06 PM (GpgJl)
That's an accurate description, no?
It was historically a black church. I'm not sure if they ever expressly banned white people, but historically that has been a church black people went to.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (AkOaV)
1. Non-whites - believed to be childlike creatures with no capacity for self-restraint or responsibility Prone to violence if they do not get their way. Cannot survive without Ole Massa (aka the federal government) taking care of them.
2. Conservative whites (and non-whites): Pure evil and responsible for all the wrongs in the world, even ones that happened centuries before they were born.
3. White leftists: Would consider themselves God's Chosen People, if they believed in God. Intellectually and morally superior to both conservatives and non-whites (although they don't come out and say the latter, their condescending attitudes toward non-whites betray their real attitude). They believe they should rule over us all because the rest of us are too dumb to manage our own lives without them.
Really, the 2015 "elites" are as enclosed and sheltered from the larger realities of the world as the bunch who gathered at the Wilkes barbeque and discussed politics at the beginning of "Gone With the Wind." They'll receive a similar comeuppance I believe, although it might not happen for a while.
Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (u0lmX)
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His relationship with Ayers should have been the end of his presidential aspirations.
There are so many things that "should have been the end of his
presidential aspirations," that I think they kind of folded up on
themselves like a quantum singularity of SCOAMTyness.
Exactly. I remember we sailed into the 2012 election thinking that Obama could not possibly be reelected.
Posted by: Null at June 22, 2015 01:49 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Pyrocles at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (fVOPU)
Posted by: Jews in Germany at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (AkOaV)
Which is a term I have never, ever heard. I think they thought it would be tacky to just call it a 'black church' like everybody else. (even if it had mixed membership)
Posted by: Lea at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 02:04 PM (wtvvX)
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Better get prepared for it, because it will be.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (P25Hh)
Save us the trouble of subpoenas and you'll get extra recreation time at Fun Camp!
Posted by: U.S. Attorneys Office, Southern District at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (VLfxt)
"How many people did Ayers kill?"
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (XUKZU)
The photo linked in my signature is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (DLUnW)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:08 PM (XUKZU)
Really?
Posted by: German Jews at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Iblis at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (9221z)
Somebody has to protect you from large sodas and butter.
Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (QhgyC)
Posted by: Kenway at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (G5h6S)
Posted by: MSM at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (XlHZs)
Posted by: Hamilton at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (tR8og)
The photo linked in my signature is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (DLUnW)
Access denied due to hotlinking.
Posted by: joncelli, begging Kate Upton for correction at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (RD7QR)
"How many people did Ayers kill?"
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (XUKZU)
Ayers was incompetent, not unwilling.
Posted by: German Jews at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (u0lmX)
Our Bettors are pretty stupid.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (7ObY1)
Better get prepared for it, because it will be.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (P25Hh)
You can still download Defense Distributed's catalog if you look. I recommend "The Cuomo"!
Posted by: Iblis at June 22, 2015 02:12 PM (9221z)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:09 PM (XUKZU)
Well, no ones saying he was a GOOD bomb maker / terrorist.
But at least 2 bodies were directly attributable to him, another half dozen or so to his group IIRC.
Plus that armed robbery of an armored truck (i think) with weather underground members working with black panther members that went sideways.
Fun fact, the WU chick involved in that armed robbery is now a college professor.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:12 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: @votermom at June 22, 2015 02:12 PM (jfldL)
Posted by: Hamilton at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (tR8og
You don't have to be a bastard about it.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:12 PM (7ObY1)
Hush your mouth.
(I do agree that ace is about due for a vacation though)
"I don't regret setting bombs" Bill Ayers said. "I feel we didn't do enough."
From a NY Times book review. 2001.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 22, 2015 02:13 PM (Y+cH4)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:13 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:14 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:12 PM (7ObY1)
...golf clap...
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:14 PM (AkOaV)
I don't know if the left invented cognitive dissonance, but they certainly embrace the hell out of it.
Posted by: maddogg at June 22, 2015 02:14 PM (xWW96)
Racism...
White confession of guilt...
???...
Can't even think of the desired outcome
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 22, 2015 02:15 PM (/vphp)
As was Bill Ayers.
Mumia Abu Jamal was an NPR correspondent.
Bill Clinton pardoned Puerto Rican terrorists.
Assata Shakur was worthy of a mural at Marquette University
Being a murderous domestic terrorist is a resume enhancer for the left.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 02:15 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Kenway at June 22, 2015 02:15 PM (G5h6S)
Posted by: maddogg at June 22, 2015 02:16 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:13 PM (RD7QR)
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No excuse. Mine's been coated in lard since my first taste of gramma's pies.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 02:16 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 22, 2015 02:16 PM (/vphp)
Think of it as a DA trying to get a plea bargain and threatening a worse sentence if we don't go along. That's the thinking in play here.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 22, 2015 02:17 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 02:17 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:18 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2015 02:18 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: kartoffel at June 22, 2015 02:18 PM (fVxXv)
You know?
It makes a difference. Don't put all the sins of the CSA on to the CFB.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 02:19 PM (Iv/Hw)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:20 PM (IPzoI)
South Africa.
Posted by: kartoffel at June 22, 2015 02:18 PM (fVxXv)
With similar results, if implemented.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:21 PM (RD7QR)
actually, confederates are worse than nazis. at least the nazis didnt take up arms against their own country
The Beerhall Putsch just emailed to say that Fillet O'Fish is a moron.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 02:21 PM (evdj2)
Blatant propaganda.
Posted by: pj at June 22, 2015 02:21 PM (cHuNI)
On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, which is a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization that set off 120 bombs in the United States, mostly in New York City and Chicago.
The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.
President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.
(From Wikipedia)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (4AVeu)
117 >>> Incidentally, I know Obama has always claimed that Bill Ayers was "just a guy from around the neighborhood."
The photo linked in my signature is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (DLUnW)
Access denied due to hotlinking.
Posted by: joncelli, begging Kate Upton for correction at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (RD7QR)
How about now?
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (DLUnW)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:21 PM (RD7QR)
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Blacks are a long way from being a majority population here as they were in SA.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (Iv/Hw)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 22, 2015 02:15 PM (/vphp)
Oh, there's no real end game here.
The left just needs people divided. Easier to conquer with their socialist utopia ideas.
So whether that division is along class lines or racial lines or geographic lines or ... whatever, doesn't really matter.
Just keep people pissed at each other and never let a crisis go to waste.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (AkOaV)
Although the comparison is not perfect, it does link the two well, and reminds America of whom Obama is in bed with. Such and image with the list of comparisons could flood Twitter.
Then there could be one with Storm and the Democrat KKK members of times past ... Byrd, for example. Storm was disappointed that the Dem KKK had died out before his time.
Posted by: Illiniwek at June 22, 2015 02:24 PM (8bK1p)
When we give air to these diseased people they grow.
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:24 PM (ZFPMM)
117 >>> Incidentally, I know Obama has always claimed that Bill Ayers was "just a guy from around the neighborhood."
The photo linked in my signature is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (DLUnW)
Access denied due to hotlinking.
Posted by: joncelli, begging Kate Upton for correction at June 22, 2015 02:11 PM (RD7QR)
How about now?
Posted by: Phinn at June 22, 2015 02:23 PM (DLUnW)
Works! Thanks. Another good one ran in, IIRC, the NYT and showed Barry, before his announcement that he was running, standing in Bill Ayers's living room with Soros looking on approvingly.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:25 PM (RD7QR)
Well they're already calling the webpage he mentioned in his little manifesto a "far right conservative webpage devoted to white supremacy" so, yeah.
Apparently it just links to stories of black on white crime.
So now linking news articles is "white supremacy".
Go figure.
Daily Mail did a nice job of doxxing the guy who runs the site (which I'd never heard of).
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (AkOaV)
They were so nice that it took him hours to screw up the courage to murder little old ladies.
Should've gone to the pharmacy line.
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Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (DL2i+)
Yeah...I keep pointing that out to folks worried about that scenario. The only reason the Left wants "race war" is because it finally gives them an excuse to get rid of that pesky client group that's only barely worth more to them than the trouble they cause.
Make me sick, they do.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (ZFPMM)
Posted by: An Observation at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (bzIWr)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:25 PM (RD7QR)
There's a pic of Barry, Ayers, and Soros from back in the day in the same room?
I don't think I've ever seen that one.
I know the Barry / Ayers connection is pretty documented, but...
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (AkOaV)
Oooh. I've never seen that picture of the SCOAMF and Ayers before.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 02:27 PM (FsuaD)
Too bad it didn't find it's way into the weekend political shows.
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 02:27 PM (9ZZd+)
The left's remedy is the destruction of western culture everywhere it manifests, especially in historically multicultural, racially-diverse territories like Sweden.
Posted by: kartoffel at June 22, 2015 02:27 PM (fVxXv)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (ZFPMM)
Don't think so.
His family called 911 to turn him in when they saw the picture on TV though. And his dads brother said he'd push the button to kill the kid.
So I don't think the family is in any way supporting what the kid did.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:27 PM (AkOaV)
As if those poor girls won't be screwed up enough by their angry, entitled parents.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 02:28 PM (FsuaD)
Just so you know, I consider your sock to be a hate crime.
Posted by: physics geek at June 22, 2015 02:28 PM (MT22W)
Roof v. Ayers?
Ayers wanted to set off a nail bomb at a Ft. Dix social dance (that is, half of the attendees would be civilians, as if that should matter.) Ayers admitted it would have "done some damage." But his bomb builders blew themselves up instead.
Without that crossed wire, Obama would have been meeting with his own Dylann Roof back in 1996.
Posted by: CJ at June 22, 2015 02:28 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (g6yUI)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (SXQcx)
By definition, you can't be a racist and conservative. Perhaps not shocking is that you CAN be a Leftist and be a racist.
Conservatives speak of individual freedom and self sufficiency, Leftists speak of collectivism, collective guilt, Govt supremacy and with the added bonus of divide and conquer.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (2l5vw)
Don't look now but Nikki Haley is about to call for the flag's removal too.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 02:29 PM (g1DWB)
I blame the Jooos.
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (Lre/J)
Posted by: Prince Matchabelli at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (zmZ2x)
Posted by: An Observation at June 22, 2015 02:26 PM (bzIWr)
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^Exactly this. It's a con, a dirty trick by spiteful small minded people to gain power over those who have nobler, more empathetic character than they do. Drives me nuts.
Posted by: Al Charlatan at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (6qR/9)
The father was less than receptive of the press when they stopped by. Hasty retreat was beaten, if I have it right.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (2l5vw)
Posted by: exhelodrvr at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (x4xDj)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (IPzoI)
The entirety of Marx is group/class identity and herd mechanics.
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 02:31 PM (Lre/J)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:31 PM (RD7QR)
Over 100 million dead in Communist China alone since 1948 but the progtards still love the old hammer and sickle.
Posted by: Eric Blair at June 22, 2015 02:32 PM (D0NZx)
Well, I mean, what do you do in that situation?
Like the father of Adam Lanza, the kid who shot up the school in CT... He laid low for a long time.
I mean, how horrific. You raised a mass murderer. What's there really to say other than to apologize and realize you failed as a parent...
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 22, 2015 02:30 PM (2l5vw)
The sad thing is that there's nothing they *can* say beyond "standard condolences."
If they apologize too strongly, they're suddenly admitting liability.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 02:32 PM (kff5f)
That's kind of recent though, no?
Looks like it's prob at a fundraiser in someones ritzy penthouse.
Maybe even Soros'.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Nora at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (RGgMp)
Did they say which one? (I'm assuming they did not, because that could be fact-checked very easily.)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (ZKzrr)
Future brother-in-law dodged several bullets, though.
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (G3txG)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (AkOaV)
If you are making fun of Christians, that's OK. Because you are punching up. You can't make fun of Muslims - that's punching down.
If you are Ayers - you are punching up and are a hero.
If you are Roof - you are punching down and are a villain.
Conservatives, who believe in equality and law, are a cancer on this nation.
Posted by: MacGruber at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 22, 2015 02:33 PM (MT22W)
Kow-towing to the mob is the in thing this decade.
Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2015 02:34 PM (DL2i+)
That's kind of recent though, no?
Looks like it's prob at a fundraiser in someones ritzy penthouse.
Maybe even Soros'.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
It's 2008, when Barry was just running. Soros was there at the beginning.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:35 PM (RD7QR)
*removes Confederate flag from steak house
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at June 22, 2015 02:36 PM (XlHZs)
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at June 22, 2015 02:36 PM (evdj2)
IIRC Obama announced one of his political campaigns at Ayers House. That may be the connection to Ayers and that photo.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 22, 2015 02:36 PM (aVYsC)
Kow-towing to the mob is the in thing this decade.
Because leftist mobs always disperse and make no further demands once you cave to them.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 02:36 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 02:37 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: physics geek at June 22, 2015 02:37 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 22, 2015 02:35 PM (RD7QR)
Interesting...
I mean, it doesn't matter much now, but I think there are so deep connections there.
Probably come out in a book by some media type in 20 or 30 years. Just like JFKs infidelity, we'll find out the whole press corp knew that Obama was being groomed for higher office by a shady billionaire for years before he came to prominence, but never felt the need to mention it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 02:38 PM (sPO3u)
I wonder why no one tries that. One of the also-rans could make a bold statement with that.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 02:38 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 02:37 PM (sPO3u)
Well, if it were up to me I'd put swarthy foreigners who advocate for ignoring our second amendment in jail, too. So I guess I don't have the moral authority to say anything about this.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:39 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: steevy
So. Does this mean that JEF is gonna be sentenced to a half-way house?
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 22, 2015 02:39 PM (Spluw)
Sincerely,
Your Friends on the Left.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:39 PM (mvenn)
*cough*
Posted by: Tony Rezko at June 22, 2015 02:39 PM (evdj2)
Piers Morgan says he would put white people who use the N word in jail.
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 02:37 PM (sPO3u)<<
Since Obama is half white, does that mean he just gets probation? Community service?
Posted by: MacGruber at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 02:38 PM (evdj2)
That's why I could never -successfully- run for office. Newt's "that's the dumbest question I've ever heard" response would seem like high praise compared to how I'd respond.
Posted by: physics geek at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (g6yUI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (qCMvj)
He can start by digging up Zombie John Lennon.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: MacGruber at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (sWgE+)
****
Halfway house
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: MacGruber at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (sWgE+)
No, no, the progressives have believed in the "one drop" rule for over a century now. Duh.
So Obama's cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at June 22, 2015 02:40 PM (g6yUI)
I think he did go home.
He's the editor for the UK Daily Mail (which now identifies as just the "Daily Mail". Transnational, if you will)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mrs. Clinton's Snizz at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (vDEpI)
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2015 02:43 PM (sPO3u)
Nolte is always good.
He was excellent in "Who'll Stop the Rain".
I like big guys as actors, they bring a lot of presence.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 22, 2015 02:43 PM (JtwS4)
Well, according to the kids idiot manifesto, he didn't become interested in "the news" or any racial stuff until the Trayvon Martin situation.
Also, he would have been... what? 17? 18? in 2012?
So color me skeptical.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Fritz at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (UzPAd)
Obama goes to jail! Obama goes to jail!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (t6GMP)
I am so grateful, proud, and humbled by the way that the victim's families have reacted at this horrible crime and in the midst of their grief. What is tragic for our country is that our own President would have liked them to react differently.
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (ZFPMM)
Secession occurred directly because Lincoln and the Republicans defeated them in the national election. The Union was Republican and the Confederacy was Democrat.
Take the goddamn flags down. Fly the National Ensign and stick those goddamned confederate flags in a goddamned Democrat museum somewhere.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Brian Denehey at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (G3txG)
Here's the chain-of-custody on that.
1. Stormdoor's manifesto referenced the CCC's website.
2. The CCC donated to Republicans.
Therefore, the liberal media can connect Republican candidates to Stormdoor in the befuzzled minds of LIV's.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: An Observation at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (bzIWr)
Was this guy employed? Independently wealthy?
I don't buy a 20 year old funding any campaigns, much less 'numerous.'
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (Lre/J)
Not kidding. Tingles (among others) will say this if he hasn't already.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Bigby's Roping Gloves at June 22, 2015 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)
****
Maybe that was the "I've only got one week left" that he told his drinking buddy a week ago, when his two friends temporarily hid his gun from him. Maybe the dude is a sister humper.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:46 PM (mvenn)
Yes, it's amazing how many weather underground alums are now gracing the halls of academia with their presence.
Oh, and Ayers especially is literally writing the text books that your children use in k-12 schools.
He who controls the past...
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:47 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at June 22, 2015 02:47 PM (g6yUI)
NEXT on AceofSpades, we fight the War of Southern Butthurt. again.
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 02:47 PM (G3txG)
Posted by: An Observation at June 22, 2015
Yeah, I get that a lot.
Posted by: Brock Lesnar at June 22, 2015 02:48 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (Lre/J)
He's 21 in 2015.
He would have been 17 (too young to donate / vote) or 18 in 2012.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Fritz at June 22, 2015 02:44 PM (UzPAd)
And President of the Super Adventure Club!
Posted by: wooga at June 22, 2015 02:48 PM (QhgyC)
Gotta admit, I love your name for the civil war.
might need to steal it at some point.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: omaniphil at June 22, 2015 02:49 PM (1V7hv)
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 02:45 PM (Lre/J)
He's 21 in 2015.
He would have been 17 (too young to donate / vote) or 18 in 2012.
There you guys go again, confusing the MFM with facts and stuff.
Don't you know they have a narrative to maintain?
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:49 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:49 PM (SXQcx)
Nobody that age donates money to politics.
That would be like a 20 year old lying life insurance.
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:50 PM (IPzoI)
The body of missing former White House chef Walter Scheib has been found near a hiking trail in New Mexico. He had been missing for more than a week.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2015 02:50 PM (F3WrY)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (ZFPMM)
My theory?
The idiot got lost in the woods while hiking alone in an unfamiliar area had had 0 of the 10 c's of survival.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: MC Slammer at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (eKIg1)
Baroque Ameoba.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: bob in houston at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (XRxxn)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:51 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: MC Slammer at June 22, 2015 02:52 PM (eKIg1)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:52 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Brock Lesnar at June 22, 2015 02:52 PM (Ui7Rt)
-
Naked pizza and beer. Doesn't sound too bad as long as you don't drop any hot cheese on your nether regions.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 02:52 PM (XUKZU)
He went out for pizza.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 22, 2015 02:53 PM (kivUY)
Is David Allan Coe okay to listen to, or is he a racist pig?
Just curious.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:53 PM (AkOaV)
So Obama's cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:41 PM (AkOaV)
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So does that mean George Zimmerman can use racial epithets?
Posted by: Al Charlatan at June 22, 2015 02:54 PM (6qR/9)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: MC Slammer at June 22, 2015 02:54 PM (eKIg1)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)
Blew out the margins ya did.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 02:55 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Muldoon,
You so entertain me!!!
The former Chef found dead after hiking off by himself? Happens all the time in Western Colorado. People tend to overestimate their navigational skills all the time here and when the shit gets real their survival skills suck.
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:55 PM (ZFPMM)
Posted by: Al Charlatan at June 22, 2015 02:54 PM (6qR/9)
Oh, good question.
I think we need to get a judgment on that from the referee.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:55 PM (AkOaV)
They're always found by hiking trails, aren't they?
I think we all know what has to be done.
BAN ASSAULT HIKING TRAILS!
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 02:55 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Grump928(c) updates at June 22, 2015 02:55 PM (evdj2)
Hiking anywhere, really.
Especially alone.
Always some element of risk involved.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:56 PM (AkOaV)
Please ignore 262, that was the punchline to an, I assure you, extremely witty and humorous post....which I am too lazy to rewrite after a control-typo.
I just rolled with it. No problem with freeform commenting here.
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 02:56 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2015 02:57 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:57 PM (SXQcx)
Did anyone figure out what Roof's problem was with da Jooos?
I mean, they weren't raping our women too, were they?
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 02:58 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 22, 2015 02:58 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Rocket Train plover at June 22, 2015 02:58 PM (IPzoI)
The schools I attended were historically white.
I'm just a historically wild and crazy white guy.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 22, 2015 02:58 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Charlie Manson at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (kFxpe)
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 02:58 PM (9ZZd+)
According to his manifesto, Jews were mostly okay, but they managed to game the system and put tribal loyalties ahead of others.
But they're white, so they get a pass.
(Who knows?)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (ZKzrr)
Yeah, but they had smoking hot daughters.
God bless America.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (ZFPMM)
He had three of the 10 c's.
"We're lost! Crap! Crap! Crap!"
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 02:59 PM (t6GMP)
Unleash the Conspiracy Theories
The body of missing former White
House chef Walter Scheib has been found near a hiking trail in New
Mexico. He had been missing for more than a week.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2015 02:50 PM (F3WrY)
It was the Cigarette Smoking Man...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2015 03:00 PM (wtvvX)
The Chef Who Knew Too Much About Where the Salami Has Been.
Forsooth, thou pasty-jack!
Whence Salami?
Posted by: the Spanish Inquisition at June 22, 2015 03:00 PM (GxHdH)
As a semi-literate, semi-savage Irishman, I would be offended if I could understand all of those big words.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Average American at June 22, 2015 03:01 PM (UsgHM)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:01 PM (SXQcx)
****
Great, here I am in the mountains, on vacation, and I was just about to take my pup for a hike. Just what I need to hear is an admonition to exercise some survival skills.
Guess I'll put a Snickers bar and a beer in my back pocket. Hope the dog can lead me back to the cabin.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 03:01 PM (mvenn)
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The narrative, my love, the narrative.
Posted by: Idiocracy was a documentary at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (FdTDf)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (ZFPMM)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (VAsIq)
Heh.
Well even the short day trails around here have millions of signs about carrying survival gear.
Frequent weather changes and all of that.
I mean, at the very least, carry a bottle of water or something. And really, it's never smart to go hiking alone. Unless you're really, really experienced and confident in yourself. And even then...
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2015 03:02 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 22, 2015 03:03 PM (XUKZU)
Former Senator Udall's brother died hiking solo in Wyoming a year or so back.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 03:03 PM (mvenn)
Exactly.
And depending on the time of day, you may not see another hiker for a while.
And that's if you're ON the trail. If you're "near the trail", well... good luck.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 03:03 PM (ZFPMM)
Posted by: the Spanish Inquisition at June 22, 2015 03:04 PM (GxHdH)
El Chupacabra!!!
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 03:04 PM (O7MnT)
****
Great, now I need to take an ACE bandage, too.
Hey, I'm at the right site! Cool.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 03:04 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:04 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Mark Sanford at June 22, 2015 03:05 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Hamilton at June 22, 2015 03:05 PM (tR8og)
Posted by: Grump928(c) updates at June 22, 2015 03:05 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:05 PM (SXQcx)
Later gators.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 03:06 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 03:06 PM (G3txG)
But but but the MFM calls it a "historically black church".
Which is a term I have never, ever heard. I think they thought it
would be tacky to just call it a 'black church' like everybody else.
(even if it had mixed membership)
.
.
.They have to put that in there, if they don't the meme simply doesn't work. Sort of like White Hispanic.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 22, 2015 03:06 PM (iONHu)
They did not know where they were, in a state park, and still refused a map to begin with.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at June 22, 2015 03:07 PM (Mt8T4)
House chef Walter Scheib has been found near a hiking trail in New
Mexico.>>>
Publishing house called police to report him missing when he missed appointment for his new tell all book deal.
Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at June 22, 2015 03:07 PM (aVYsC)
Don't forget to fill your camelbak bladder with Survival Juice, either.
My recipe:
2 handles of vodka
Splash of gin (to flavor)
2 liters of Sprite
2 cans of red bull
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: the Spanish Inquisition
Heh.
I'll just sit in this comfy chair, then.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at June 22, 2015 03:07 PM (/Ho8c)
ITA, plus a small first aid kit, a compass and a survival knife.
I'm an experienced hiker and I don't hike alone in unfamiliar surroundings, ever. I've hiked in Western CO (Grand Junction area) as well as the Moab in Utah.
You just don't fcuk around out there.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:08 PM (7ObY1)
Mui bueno for next to your fake horno in your living rooms, gringos. Mui traditionale.
Posted by: Howling coyote cut-out dealer on way to bank at June 22, 2015 03:09 PM (vgIRn)
Then again, I have 150 acres to play on with only 1 rule:
Don't shoot the cows.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:09 PM (t6GMP)
You just don't fcuk around out there.
Posted by: Citizen X
*packs bags for Moab, UT*
Posted by: the chicken at June 22, 2015 03:10 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:10 PM (SXQcx)
I was reading that as it used to be all black, but isn't any more.
Posted by: Grump928(c) updates at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (9ZZd+)
The body of missing former White
House chef Walter Scheib has been found near a hiking trail in New Mexico
#shocking
Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster on Twitter at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (GxHdH)
unfamiliar surroundings, ever. I've hiked in Western CO (Grand Junction
area) as well as the Moab in Utah.
You just don't fcuk around out there.
Posted by: Citizen X
Not a hiker but live in GJ and have lots of friends who do. You also want to be able to protect yourself in case you wander into someone's pot plantation. Those guys don't play. Also, there are a variety of things that would like to eat you.
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (ZFPMM)
Yeah, for a day hike, I usually pack all the basics, because why not?
It's not too much weight, and god forbid me -- or some idiot lost in the woods -- needs something, better to have it then not.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:09 PM (t6GMP)
It's good exercise. Plus, you know, nature.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (AkOaV)
When does cow season start?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:10 PM (SXQcx)
*mumbles incoherently*
Posted by: Farmer in Napoleon Dynamite at June 22, 2015 03:11 PM (FsuaD)
Awe-inspiring scenery. To this Easterner, it was like visiting the surface of Mars.
Watch out for the hippies in town, though.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (IPzoI)
Don't know about cow season but my favorite deer hunting is for the slow spotted ones.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (aVYsC)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 22, 2015 03:01 PM (mvenn)
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Hehehehehe.
Posted by: Muldoon's dog at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (SXQcx)
True dat, but what you carry depends a great deal on what part of the country one is in, so I didn't get into all that.
Here in NY, for example, I don't need to go out loaded for bear.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (7ObY1)
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Yah, about that. Most idiots can't read a road map, much less a topographical map.
I had a couple of friends who were coming back to Denver from El Paso after bowling the National Tournament there. They missed the exit to I-25 North, and it took them over one hundred miles to figure out they were going in the wrong direction. I think the sign telling them that they were 20 miles from Arizona tipped them off.
Posted by: Old Blue at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (9iR5/)
If you're going to go hiking, make sure you (or someone in your party, at least, but preferably you) know how to read a map and compass.
Make sure you *have* a map and compass.
Make sure you have a method (preferably two- one sight-based, and one hearing-based) of signaling for help.
Make sure you have water AND a way to purify water you find.
Make sure you have food (it's easy to carry enough calories for a few days with meal bars and such nowadayz).
Make sure you have a way to start a fire.
Make sure you have a first aid kit.
Yes. Even if you're just planning a hike "for a couple of hours." It doesn't take much to get lost, have an accident, or otherwise find yourself in a situation where you will need any or all of those things.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (kff5f)
"Scheib was personally hired by then-first lady Hillary Clinton"
Let the conspiracies unfold.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 03:12 PM (O7MnT)
She had him killed for giving her cankles.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (FsuaD)
So some of her luster is now gone.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:13 PM (GpgJl)
They have also fooled people into thinking the violence and assassinations and assassination attempts always carried out by the Right. No matter that 95% are carried out by the Left.
Posted by: Cruzinator at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (yCkeu)
I'm an experienced hiker/climber and I don't hike or climb alone in unfamiliar surroundings, ever. That's evah!
Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Clinton at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (P330y)
Posted by: Cheri****************************Lure the puppy with the Snickers.Roast puppy over fire while drinking beer.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (0x/TW)
Before I go hiking, I always make a donation to my college's alumni fund; those guys will find me anywhere.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 03:06 PM (G3txG)
How'd you know?!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (2Ojst)
Sarah Palin 2016 News ...
Michael Savage:
" If Scott Walker really supported Obamatrade, then he's finished. He's toast. I hate to say this, but I'm beginning to think that only Sarah Palin could save America."
LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/p6tbvj5
Dems in my area are coming up to me and asking when Palin will enter the presidential race. And they aren't being sarcastic about it, either.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2015 03:14 PM (JBggj)
Let the conspiracies unfold.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale
Oh, this one's easy. I'd off myself before I let her be my boss again.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:15 PM (VAsIq)
For me, not having 150 acres of my own, hiking = sanity.
Nothing takes me away from the endless DOOM like spending a day enjoying God's great gift of nature.
I look at the woods as a cathedral, and the sounds of the forest as the choir.
Plus, hiking is a great way to get a workout too.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:16 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: donna at June 22, 2015 03:16 PM (Bn6aD)
Other than (questionably, I don't want to re-fight this battle) McVeigh, I can't think of a single "act of violence" attributable to "the right" in any way.
On the other hand... pretty much every other act of violence in our country over the past 100 years has been directly attributable to one of 3 groups: total crazies, leftists, or muslims.
With a heavy emphasis on leftists.
Shit, you could go all the way back to the haymarket bombing and still find leftists everywhere.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:17 PM (AkOaV)
One of the many skeletons in the closet of the San Francisco progressive left is how they firmly protected the "Reverend" Jones and the "People's Temple", even after it had become abundantly obvious that Jones was a dangerous nut case.
Among the steady defenders of Jones was the late Harvey Milk, who is of course now a noble martyr to gay rights and don't you DARE say a single word against his memory.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 22, 2015 03:17 PM (noWW6)
Careful of the Tea Party Roofs hiding behind the pews.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:17 PM (g1DWB)
Who could be against that?
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 03:18 PM (9ZZd+)
Make sure you have water AND a way to purify water you find.
Excellent advice. AquaPura tabs or a Katadyn Hiker Pro pump-filter can be life savers. And neither adds much weight to your pack.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:18 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:18 PM (SXQcx)
I have a cheapo lifestraw.
Hopefully it never comes to using that stupid thing.
I usually have a bladder pack and an extra water bottle on me though. I can't forsee a situation in which I'm THAT fucked where I need to drink out of a puddle.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:19 PM (AkOaV)
He also joked that the "black helicopters" that feature in conspiracy theories were real.
"There are black helicopters, but we generally don't deploy them ... we deploy them against bin Laden but we generally don't deploy them on U.S. soil," he chuckled.
When Barack Obama talks control, everyone buys guns.
Posted by: Hal Lindsey at June 22, 2015 03:19 PM (e8kgV)
Who could be against that?
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 03:18 PM
Sure..... It must be nice to be able to just demand an entire States history be removed......
Posted by: donna at June 22, 2015 03:20 PM (Bn6aD)
Oh! Ha Ha! Only tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter seeing nutjobs could possibly think that the federal government would ever consider banning guns!
Hilarious!
Wasn't it just yesterday that Obama was blaming Congress for not passing gun control legislation after Sandy Hook?
Does this guy even listen to the words he reads off teleprompters, or is he really that clueless?
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:21 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 22, 2015 03:18 PM (7ObY1)
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And a penis pump. To enjoy those idle hours until help arrives.
Posted by: Muldoon's dog at June 22, 2015 03:21 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: donna at June 22, 2015 03:22 PM (Bn6aD)
I look at the woods as a cathedral, and the sounds of the forest as the choir.
Amen.
Which is why I play out there are often as possible. Usually every other weekend.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:22 PM (t6GMP)
Posted by: Muldoon's dog at June 22, 2015 03:21 PM (P25Hh)
...trying to think of a way to work in a survival fleshlight joke....
Nope, nothing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:22 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:22 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 03:23 PM (G3txG)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:23 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:23 PM (t6GMP)
I can't think of a single "act of violence" attributable to the right
in any way.
McVeigh's car was full of communist literature when the found it. He was a leftest too but the "right" BS has been immortalized by the MFM.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:24 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (FsuaD)
He was no conservative.
Posted by: Garrett at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (G3txG)
yes, I know. But it's really not worth refighting that battle.
It sucks, but the left has spun their historical "narrative" in such a way that it's just... not worth fighting over.
McVeigh liked guns and was pissed about Waco. Thus, a card carrying Republican. That's the narrative.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: donna at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Sexy at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (VAsIq)
Let me see if I can find an Italian to translate.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (szjxG)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (SXQcx)
Being in CT, mostly.
Oh, and losing a massive government contract.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:23 PM (VAsIq)
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Just go east, just outside the city limits where green country starts. Lots of trails around the big lakes too. A lot of hiking in OK. Except in the summer when all the snakes are out.
Must add to list: Snakebite kit.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (P25Hh)
How about y'all?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:26 PM (kff5f)
The Mexican wildcat weed farmers who grow out in the woods in NorCal will set up Happy Fun Surprises for guests, like shotguns on tripwires along trails, and fish hooks hung on monofilament at eye level.
These same guys will divert wild streams to irrigate their weed, and they will run in drums of incredibly nasty pesticides and herbicides on the backs of ATVs, with which they drench everything around their crop. All of this causing huge damage to the ecology which liberals claim to venerate.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 22, 2015 03:27 PM (noWW6)
Environmental activist Tim McVeigh took it upon himself to fight urban sprawl--it's complicated.
Posted by: derit at June 22, 2015 03:27 PM (jT+gh)
They are headquartered in Conn. If you are in Conn and not selling insurance, your broke.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 22, 2015 03:27 PM (oDCMR)
Must add to list: Snakebite kit.
Posted by: Soona
Being a Utah boy, "hiking" in my mind necessitates mountains. Real mountains.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (VAsIq)
How did Colt manage to go bankrupt when most gun manufacturers can't turn out product fast enough?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:25 PM (SXQcx)
Easy, they pissed off their customers and they are located in a deep blue union State.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (IPzoI)
It lays bare the lie that Ayers did not want to kill innocents. He was angry and frustrated that they didn't kill more innocents.
Posted by: D. Roof at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (HqpV0)
Posted by: Grump928(c) updates at June 22, 2015 03:29 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (GpgJl)
Fun fact: The "colt museum" is in the CT Supreme Court buildings' basement.
Lots of old guns. Very cool.
Surprised they haven't been melted down. I guess the liberals haven't noticed its existence yet.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:29 PM (AkOaV)
Mi sister ønce hiked in Finland. She gøt bitten bi a møøse
Posted by: wiserbud at June 22, 2015 03:29 PM (XlHZs)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:29 PM (SXQcx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 03:30 PM (evdj2)
Re: fire.
I just got a magnesium fire starter kit with a ferrocerium (doesn't that sound like a made up word) stick that sparks when you scrape it. I like having something that will make fire after the Zippos and matches fail.
Which they don't, but still.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 22, 2015 03:30 PM (JtwS4)
We seem to be getting closer by the day IFYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (g1DWB)
Still the good old solid ground of SNAFU.
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (izITN)
One word: Bics.
No work involved. Ya just flick 'em.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:28 PM (VAsIq)
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There's lots of places to get lost in OK. And the eastern half is beautiful.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (izITN)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 03:31 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Simo Häyhä at June 22, 2015 03:32 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 22, 2015 03:32 PM (JtwS4)
How did Sharpton get (figuratively) shot down, and if so-------Hooray! That blowhard needs to be repeatedly told off and particularly by the AA community.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2015 03:32 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:32 PM (izITN)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 22, 2015 03:32 PM (JtwS4)
Well I'll run out of cigarettes long before I run out of lighter fluid.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:33 PM (AkOaV)
When I was in Scouts, we were always told "waterproof matches, and at least one other way of starting fire." And, yes, a lot of us used those fire starting kits with the magnesium thing and the little metal striker.
We also knew how to use real flint and steel, and I have even successfully made fire by rubbing two sticks together.
But I prefer the matches or Zippo.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:33 PM (kff5f)
The only things they'll say are the same vague nonsense Obama's been
spouting about gun control.
--
They was reparations as well. And of course, for all whites to admit what POS's we are, how we oppress. We must verbally admit this, as well as admit our white privilege, and our feelings of superiority. We must own every bad thing every white person has ever done to every person of color since the dawn of man. Oh, and to give up all firearms. That's what they want.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2015 03:33 PM (PcJe4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 03:33 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (t6GMP)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (izITN)
Bears, cougars, tweakers, wolves, snakes, and giant hairy mountain spiders.
Posted by: Fritz at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Rocket Train at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (IPzoI)
Personally, 3 or 4 bics seems sufficient to me.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (izITN)
Or.... carry some twine with you. Then you don't have to go Commando just because you want fire.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (kff5f)
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You wanna know the best way to start a fire?
Posted by: Elijah at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: MSNBC at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (wAQA5)
http://is.gd/QiSjua
(I saw "White Death" in the headline and wondered why they were talking about Simo Hayha on the same day we are.)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (ZKzrr)
I bought a flint & steel kit from a boy scout that started an online business.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (t6GMP)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (izITN)
all joking aside, my serious hiker friends carry cotton balls with Vaseline for fire starting.
And/or dryer lint.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Feh
That's what bellybuttons are for, no?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (VAsIq)
Figures tea party trash would defend the confederate flag.
Posted by: Confederacy was evil at June 22, 2015 03:24 PM (VsP9s)
lincolntf?
Posted by: some random meathead - if you're not drinking, you're not paying attention at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (GxHdH)
Posted by: donna at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (Bn6aD)
They told me that my roll of road flares and jerrican of gasoline weren't permitted. Cruelly crushing my youthful inventive enthusiasm.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (noWW6)
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Yeah, THAT'S why they're carrying Vaseline into the woods with their guy friends.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (izITN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:33 PM (kff5f)
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Never mastered the stick method. I'll be the one walking around with a few large 12-packs of Bic lighters.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:34 PM (izITN)
Again, back to scouting days- most of the time you can find plenty of tinder and kindling, if you know what to look for.
But, for survival purposes, carrying dryer lint or something similar is a good idea.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (kff5f)
Seems logical and we'll thought out.
This could never get out of hand.
This could never have unintended consequences.
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Jaws at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (Jktp1)
;^) No, I don't think so. He may drink but if he were part of a Alcoholics Anonymous group he would have someone to be accountable to and might not be such a raving jack***.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (OSs/l)
And/or dryer lint.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:35 PM
Those are great. A little paracord, a bowdrill and you're cooking with...um...not gas...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (SXQcx)
Twinkies are the best friends I ever had.
Posted by: Dan White at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (4WhSY)
This is why, when I go to the woods, I always take hairspray.
Posted by: Feh<<<
They don't like to be teased.
Posted by: Fritz at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (UzPAd)
Oh, so we're at 2 degrees of separation?
So Roof read a news aggregater that linked to stories on black on white crime...
Said webpage's webmaster once donated money to a Republican candidate...
THUS! All Republicans are to blame for Roofs actions.
Hey, quick, someone check to see if any webpage Bill Ayers has ever read has anyone on their staff who have donated money to any Dems!
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (AkOaV)
and if it isn't pouring down rain, as it was during my order of the arrow ordeal
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (izITN)
http://tinyurl.com/oj4a8ef
A cat takes a nap in some guys ultra-light aircraft and wakes up midair. Kudos to the pilot and the kitty who hangs on for dear life.
Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (ZFPMM)
It gets even better if you have some Grape Nuts with you to toss into the pot.
Posted by: Euell Gibbons at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (XlHZs)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Notice: This does not apply to 'ettes. Don't wear any, in fact, and not a lot of other clothing, either.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (VAsIq)
Know how much dryer lint, a small sparker rod, & a piece of hack saw blade can fit in a pill bottle?
A lot. Which is why I can't grok the concept of Naked & Afraid tv show. I am never without something.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (t6GMP)
I hated the two sticks method, but I was pretty good at it.
Like I said: I'm a fan of matches and lighters.
Heck, I've even made a fishing line from cedar bark, a fish hook from a mesquite tree, and then caught a fish with same.
Again- I don't recommend it. I recommend carrying some fishing line and hooks.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (kff5f)
Fire can't melt Magnesium.
Posted by: Rocket Train
The same holds true for fire versus steel. Steel wins every time!
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (P330y)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:39 PM (izITN)
Sure is. The drive from Antlers to Clayton, Talihina, Poteau, and, then on to Ft. Smith is nice one. Kinda like the foothills of the rockies but warmer.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 22, 2015 03:39 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at June 22, 2015 03:39 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (VAsIq)
Yeah, and the condoms are totes for water collection.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:40 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:39 PM
Don't kid yourself....they snort that shit.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:40 PM (h4vJk)
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Not much, with all the pills I keep in there.
Posted by: addict at June 22, 2015 03:40 PM (VAsIq)
Hm. I think I'm going to go try that in the hood. I'm pretty sure the problem with illegal immigration is the inability of those "undocumented workers" to see themselves as bad people. It seems so simple to me now.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 22, 2015 03:41 PM (eytER)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 03:37 PM (SXQcx)
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One can always go commando. No big deal. But you do need extra socks. I always put two extra pair in my pack.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 03:41 PM (P25Hh)
yeah: a MINNOW
hahaha
nah bro, anybody who can tie fibers of bark into a fishing line (square knots?) is A-OK in my book
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:41 PM (izITN)
Steel wool and a 9 volt battery.
Try it in a safe place.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:41 PM (t6GMP)
will have to try that
I'm guessing a car battery would be a bad idea
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:43 PM (izITN)
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (izITN)
Oh, suck.
I earned my Arrow of Light, but never joined the Order of the Arrow.
I do recall on my survival camp out that I didn't tie my shelter tightly enough and it rained that night. Luckily it was Texas in summer, so getting wet didn't cause me much more than mild discomfort.
Oh- and other sucky things BSA is doing- Arrow of Light is no longer "The Highest Award in Cub Scouting," but rather just another rank like all the others. So if you join in 5th grade, you don't have to earn your Bobcat then Webelos and *then* try to get your Arrow (which made it basically impossible to earn your Arrow if you joined in 5th grade). You just earn your Bobcat and then jump straight to the Arrow.
Yet the Arrow is *still* supposed to be permanent throughout scouting.
Which makes those of us who earned it rather miffed.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:43 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:36 PM (VAsIq)
Yeah, and the condoms are totes for water collection.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:40 PM
Yep...just picking up some Altoids breath mints (for the can), some unlubricated condoms and a little Vaseline...funny the looks you get from the clerks...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:44 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 22, 2015 03:45 PM (JtwS4)
Ayers has ever read has anyone on their staff who have donated money to
any Dems!
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:38 PM (AkOaV)<<<<
*reads comment* Ha! *files important news-tip in File #13*
Posted by: "News"-Organization at June 22, 2015 03:46 PM (sCHw2)
You're getting a damn funny look from me right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:46 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 03:46 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Person of Palor at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (fUjxW)
I didn't say it was a big fish.
Actually IIRC (it's been quite a while) it was about a 4" perch.
And we used Cedar bark because it didn't take much working to make it a decent line. If you were careful, you could peel off a good 4' strip at once, and then very carefully separate the fibers.
Then you basically drop-fish with it: find a pool where fish are likely to be, and just drop your hook hoping you catch something.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (kff5f)
The problem is the double standard always applies.
Posted by: Erasmus Hodag at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (CeZq3)
Can of starting fluid, (ether), rag..........
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (t6GMP)
He hates these cans!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcwz8-EfFYE
Just like the flag, get rid of the cans and the problem is solved.
Posted by: jwest at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2015 02:10 PM (SXQcx)
I hope the Confederacy does rise again. It would be fun beating you bastards twice.
Posted by: troyriser at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (S08gh)
Posted by: Yo! at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:46 PM
And this, kids, is why you send your buddy in to get your survival kit gear. No, really...I'll just circle the parking lot...shouldn't take you 2 minutes...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:48 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 03:48 PM (qCMvj)
I should've been donating to the BSA over the years so I could be in a position to really bitch at them
they tied us with rope and led us by pickup truck up the side of a mountain, pushing us off at long intervals in the dark, telling us only that they'd see us in the morning roadside
long night
best thing though was seeing the eyes of critters in the forest beyond the firelight, and the fires (or no fires) of my buddies up and down the mountain
and the quiet, heavy rain
Posted by: Feh at June 22, 2015 03:48 PM (izITN)
I don't think that's where you're supposed to put them.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 22, 2015 03:46 PM
*golf clap*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:48 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (GpgJl)
Paracord. 50 ft of paracord has 350 ft of useable line inside. 7 strands.
7 x 50 = 350 ft.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (t6GMP)
I don't know, we're talking about dead hiking cankles Chefs, and all of a sudden we're talking about vaseline and condoms and RedMind's buddies and...
escalated quickly, that's all I know.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (GpgJl)
Maybe Ace is baking too.
barefoot in the kitchen
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (qCMvj)
Well then, my folks had some friends when I was a kid that had a camp on a lake in the Adirondacks. One of their neighbors was a family by the Bacon.
There was a rec center at one end of the lake where they used to organize activities for us yutes including hikes and campouts. I didn't know all the kids in the group but there is a very real chance I went hiking with Kevin Bacon.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2015 03:50 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 22, 2015 03:50 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: Yip at June 22, 2015 03:50 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:47 PM (kff5f)
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Mesquite tree hooks are good. If your in an area that has Creeping Jenny vines, entwine two or three together to make a strong fishing line.
Posted by: Soona at June 22, 2015 03:51 PM (P25Hh)
7 x 50 = 350 ft.
Posted by: rickb223
I was told etc. etc.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 22, 2015 03:51 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2015 03:51 PM (GpgJl)
http://tinyurl.com/nll8gra
They've dropped all pretense of "Science" since that has been soundly refuted.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 22, 2015 03:52 PM (nqiq9)
escalated quickly, that's all I know.
Posted by: mynewhandle at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM
LOL Friend of mine tried to pull that on a college buddy one night. They were headed out drinking, and his buddy wanted to pick up some condoms. As he's heading into the store, my buddy yelled for him to pick up some breath mints for him. Guy was like, yeah, sure, whatever. Comes back out empty handed 20 seconds later telling my bud to go fuck himself.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2015 03:53 PM (h4vJk)
Oh, and Bob Gates (who picked Bob Gates for President of BSA?) is making noises about allowing openly gay Scout Leadership.
I just need 3 years of sanity. It'll be easier to explain to Little Tenther why he's not allowed to be in BSA anymore after he's finished Cub Scouts than if I have to do it next year.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2015 03:49 PM (t6GMP)
I'm fairly certain paracord existed in the early 90's, but I *know* I'd never heard of it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 22, 2015 03:53 PM (kff5f)
"Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Dylann Roof is an unrepentant domestic terrorist."
Hah! Nice.
Posted by: flounder at June 22, 2015 03:56 PM (Vf5rR)
Could we please not replay the Civil War/ War Between the States/War of Northern Aggression discussion again?
Posted by: Dead horse at June 22, 2015 03:57 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: TallDave at June 22, 2015 04:15 PM (74ZYB)
Posted by: Jade Sea at June 22, 2015 04:48 PM (ly9ab)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
Posted by: Hepcat at June 22, 2015 05:12 PM (IeR2g)
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