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Woman: Hey Let's Have a Year In Publishing of Publishing Only Women
"Identity Politics" is just a more polite term for "Racist Politics."
It is clear that there is a gender bias in publishing houses and the world of books. Well, enough. Why not try something radical? Make 2018 the Year of Publishing Women, in which no new titles should be by men ... Several years ago, Martin Amis chaired a literary festival panel on "The Crisis of American Fiction”"with Richard Ford, Jay McInerney and Junot Díaz. I was in the audience, and halfway through the discussion leaned over to the person sitting next to me and said: "Clearly the crisis of American fiction is that there are no women in it." It's not just that there weren’t any women on the stage. In the entire discussion, which lasted nearly an hour, there was no mention of Toni Morrison, Marilynne Robinson, Annie Proulx, Anne Tyler, Donna Tartt, Jhumpa Lahiri or any other contemporary female writer. A single reference to Eudora Welty was the only acknowledgment that women in the US have ever had anything to do with the world of letters. Díaz, near the end of the hour, made the point that the conversation had centred on white American males, but it was too little, too late. ... As a snapshot, let’s look at the Man Booker prize over the last five years. Ever since the women’s prize for fiction – formerly the Orange, now the Baileys – was set up 20 years ago in response to an all–male Booker shortlist, the Booker has been the prize to which the most attention is paid in gender terms, and the question of the prize's judges and gender came up last year when only three women were on a longlist of 13. In response, one of the judges Sarah Churchwell said: "We read what publishers submit to us … [If] publishers only submit a fraction of women, then that is a function of systemic institutional sexism in our culture." So I asked the Booker administrators how many of the books submitted in the last five years have been written by women. The answer was, slightly under 40%. This isn’t an issue around the Booker alone. I’ve been uncomfortable with the imbalance between male and female writers in terms of the books that get submitted for prizes that I’m judging on a number of occasions.By the way she looks like this because of course she does. I note that because I've been thinking about this twitter essay by a J R Salzman, who argues, persuasively, that 90% Identity Politics is just vengeance against those towards one feels envy.
In the five years in which slightly under 40% of the submitted books have been written by women, the percentage of women on the longlist has been slightly over 40%. The percentage of women on the shortlist has been 46%. The percentage of women who go on to win the prize has been exactly 40%. ... I would argue that is time for everyone, male and female, to sign up to a concerted campaign to redress the inequality. Last year a number of readers, critics and at least one literary journal, the Critical Flame, signed up to a "Year of Reading Women" (for the Critical Flame it was female writers and writers of colour). Why not take it a step further? Why not have a Year of Publishing Women: 2018, the centenary of women over the age of 30 getting the vote in the UK, seems appropriate.
Of course, there will be many details to work out, but the basic premise of my "provocation" is that none of the new titles published in that year should be written by men....
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:20 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:21 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:21 PM (4df7R)
mention of Toni Morrison, Marilynne Robinson, Annie Proulx, Anne Tyler,
Donna Tartt, Jhumpa Lahiri or any other contemporary female writer.
Gee, it's a mystery why that would happen.
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:22 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 05, 2015 02:22 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at June 05, 2015 02:22 PM (dw7lk)
I think it's 100% vengeance.
And these "womyn" are so very, very tiresome. Just shut up already.
Posted by: Flyover Pilgrim at June 05, 2015 02:23 PM (YHP5A)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Zombie MLK, Jr. at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (sCHw2)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (/4AZU)
over the age of 30 getting the vote in the UK, seems appropriate.
Because they're both idiotic ideas by hysterical halfwits?
(jk for the ettes)
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (LAe3v)
Terry Pratchett
Douglas Adams
Michael Crichton
*checks mental bookshelf for female authors*
JK Rowling. That's about it.
If we expand to less modern-but-still-not-old-school authors, you've got Tolkien, CS Lewis, Agatha Christie, HP Lovecraft...
Yeah, not seeing the female appeal, frankly.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Xavier at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (dbBx1)
Posted by: Zombie Maya Angelou at June 05, 2015 02:24 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Zombie Vladimir Lenin at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (A+4XE)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: bystander at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (hKyl0)
Why not just make bad taste illegal?
Posted by: Steve White at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (kjDs0)
For much the same reason a discussion of great basketball players would not have mentioned anyone from the WNBA.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (IPtRl)
FML.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (5IbXh)
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (LAe3v)
I should never have sent Fanny Kaplan to do a non-palsied well sighted job on you comrade...
//Zombie Sidney Reilly
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (/4AZU)
Terry Pratchett
Douglas Adams
Michael Crichton
Throw Neil Gaiman and Dennis Lehane into the mix and we would have much to discuss.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Kamila Shamsie at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (sCHw2)
Well Bruce Jenner is hotter. I think I'm going to make that my default swipe at this sort of feminist.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (5IbXh)
Posted by: Your Dedicated Public Servants of OR-BOLI at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Penthouse Forum at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (XWo4d)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 05, 2015 02:27 PM (IN7k+)
Terry Pratchett
Douglas Adams
Michael Crichton
Throw Neil Gaiman and Dennis Lehane into the mix and we would have much to discuss.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:26 PM (O7MnT)
Ooh, Gaiman! Yes! How could I forget him? In addition to his other works, of course, he and Pratchett penned one of my favorite books together: "Good Omens."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:28 PM (4df7R)
worked for Tonya Harding, and it works for me, too!
Posted by: Barak H. O'Bomber at June 05, 2015 02:28 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: Billy-Jeff Clintoon at June 05, 2015 02:28 PM (sCHw2)
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at June 05, 2015 02:28 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: irright at June 05, 2015 02:28 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:29 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:29 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:29 PM (4df7R)
Inside the US, with certainly.
Posted by: Peggy Joseph at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (NuPNl)
Posted by: Moby Dick? Never read it. at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (iQIUe)
Flannery O'Connor
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:31 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: mallfly at June 05, 2015 02:31 PM (qSIlh)
Mind you, I have developed RBF, so I shouldn't talk, but she clearly posed with that expression.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 05, 2015 02:31 PM (IPtRl)
2015: "To create equality we need to separate everybody into groups and make sure certain groups are exalted over others."
Leftism: Always just one coercive policy away from paradise.
Posted by: The MSM at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (RD7QR)
Oh, has she/he/it done any homemade porn or contemplated a gender change (to he/she/it)? No? ZzZZZZ
Posted by: Flaming Asshole at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (gVAWm)
What is depressing for me, is that so many of them are just getting someone else to "co-author" (completely write) a book and then put the dreck out under the big-time author's name. Cussler, Clancy, Griffin, and a whole bunch more.
If it was any other medium, they'd be accused of counterfeiting.
Posted by: rd at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (A+4XE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (evdj2)
IF I really thought she was capable of making this happen I would cut a bitch. Anything that delays I want to read (like Dresden files) should be killed with fire.
Thank god she's just utterly and completely uselessly flailing her stupid little fists.
BTW, some idiot nobody tried to tell Anne Rice off the other day by telling her she had MORE TWITTER FOLLOWERS!!!!
Posted by: Lea at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:32 PM (oVJmc)
- Said No Meat Market Manager Ever.
Posted by: Fritz at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (jDqfn)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Guy that would hit anything at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (i7dKz)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Guy that would hit anything at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (i7dKz)
Ditto. And more than once.
Posted by: Ike Turner at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (C278+)
Because that would be a darn near original thing for a post WWII western novel to do.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (H3SRF)
At the end of her little T-Rex arms.
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (4SpTU)
The consensus was that due to the fact that 80% of the new fiction books being sold were being sold to women this was why. Publishers are in the buisness to make money and selling books for women is currently what does this.
Anyone who say women are under represented in authoring or book for them is a a liar, and ignorant fool, or both.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (P330y)
Posted by: L, Elle at June 05, 2015 02:34 PM (D4SfS)
Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at June 05, 2015 02:35 PM (tqHgG)
My tribe (identity) is better than all other tribes. And if my tribe is not cleaning up the awards then we are being oppressed.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 05, 2015 02:35 PM (hLRSq)
How low does she want this bar?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:35 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:35 PM (2Ojst)
In contrast,
Toni Morrison - writes about how men and white people suck
Marilynne Robinson - writes boring fiction about boring people and non-fiction about SJW causes
Annie Proulx - writes clichéd tracts about gay cowboys eating pudding.
Anne Tyler - boring novels about boring people.
Donna Tartt, Jhumpa Lahiri - never heard of them, but I am pretty sure they suck, too.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:36 PM (O7MnT)
Got it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:36 PM (oVJmc)
I realize she's not up to the standard of the supermodels you guys draw but, she's four beers hittable, easy.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:36 PM (evdj2)
Douglas Adams
Michael Crichton
But what about their LOOKS? That's what's important here.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 05, 2015 02:37 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Moochelle at June 05, 2015 02:37 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: obvious at June 05, 2015 02:37 PM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: Women With A Penis at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (nyxv/)
We'll start with the printing press, the computer, the Internet, the internal combustion engine...and 99.99% of everything else these useless entitled bitches survive on every single minute of their ignorant lives.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (jBuUi)
Yeah, but she'll spoil the mood if she speaks. Okay, five beers.
Posted by: Fritz at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (jDqfn)
Posted by: wiserbud at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (XlHZs)
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (C278+)
Fat ugly women get pissed at men because they can't get laid? Boy, that's a shocker.
Fvck, even NOAA could come to THAT conclusion after enough data revisions.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 02:38 PM (8ZskC)
I do, however, debate that most of those talented female authors write anything that more than 10% of the population would actually enjoy reading. And I include the female population in that overall percentage, because frankly female authors bore the pants on me.
(Yes, I said ON me, not OFF me, because nothing kills any kind of amorous mood like a few chapters of Joyce Carol Oates whinging about the evils of colonialism or whatever the fuck she's complaining about now.)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (4df7R)
No, it is not clear at all.
The go-to plot device in the literary world is now and has been for awhile the whole "Grrl Power" thing. It's all over the place, especially in Young Adult fiction. Hell, it's so bad that boys have a hard time getting into reading because they can't identify with the main character.
The entire complaint is built on a false premise.
Posted by: @JohnTant at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (PFy0L)
I think at this point, they all look pretty much like Harry Reid
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (4SpTU)
A purple-veined love stick has never graced those lips! She remains pure and virginal, just as her life plan dictated.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (P330y)
Everything, but everything, is a handle on the crank the Godless Communists, the Commie-fag-junkies, use to ratchet an unwilling public away from Free Will toward Totalitarianism.
Whatever it takes to confuse the conscience, blur the line, and get an actual, living voter to vote the death and taxes ticket in any given election. Constant, absolutely relentless, pressure. Careers-- and fortunes, oddly-- are made out of that.
[Next: "Prosperity" preacher buys private jet.]
Posted by: Thorvald Asvaldsson at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: fly gal at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (8TdcF)
She's not ugly. She's in her 40s. When she wears make up she looks quite nice. She's from Pakistan and I can see how she may have some resentment being shut out of things b/c of her sex.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: MTF at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: MTF at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (DkJ4E)
No....she isn't. Check the other photos.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:35 PM (2Ojst)
"I would."
-Hector's tranny "wife"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:39 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:30 PM (FsuaD)
Don't even ask, even as a favour......
Posted by: 10-metre pole at June 05, 2015 02:40 PM (dBm7S)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:40 PM (O7MnT)
I assume you mean with a stool in a bar fight? Because there ain't enough beer for me to hit that with anything else.
No, not even yours.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 05, 2015 02:40 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: A Fish With A Bicycle at June 05, 2015 02:40 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 05, 2015 02:40 PM (0xTsz)
The vote.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 02:41 PM (w5okt)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 05, 2015 02:41 PM (O7MnT)
I don't select readers on what awards they have won (winning the Hugo will usually get an author onto the maybe if it is free and i have nothing better to read than toilet paper list - unless the toilet paper has pictures - in which case the author loses).
Posted by: Penfold at June 05, 2015 02:41 PM (Fbt5B)
That's the best reason ever to write. Write because the book you want to read isn't out there!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:41 PM (39g3+)
this woman is not a victim of being shut out of publishing, she just isn't any good, generations ago a woman may have been kept out of publishing by the men of that era, but this woman is not suffering. however she wants revenge on today's men, who have caused her no institutional harm, as redress for another person's suffering at the hands of a completely different person
its not justice or equality, its what happens when equality is achieved and then she wants to keep going further and not be in charge and make someone else suffer
that is a human trait though
Posted by: chelsea danger at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (pBUj2)
Posted by: Fail Army at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (ZbV+0)
I demand parity.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Guy that would hit anything at June 05, 2015 02:33 PM (i7dKz)
With an F-150.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (gRnYL)
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 02:42 PM (zRby/)<<<
Word.
Posted by: Mrs. Marco Rubio at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (xsnUW)
Or we could withhold sexual favors. Maybe they notice, maybe the won't
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (C278+)
Yep.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (nqiq9)
Would give such unappreciated authors as J.K Rowling and E.L. James an opportunity to sell some books.
I mean, they can't now because they're being crowded out by all those damn men!!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (k2QA3)
You read all ten pages then role over and go to sleep?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (hLRSq)
What kind of book publishing is she talking about? The Romance novel
genre is completely dominated by women, or so i am told.
Those aren't the RIGHT kind of books. Those are *glances around; whispers* stereotypical women's books.
They want a full year of "Bell Jars" and Lena Dunham biographies.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Timmy Stroker the Perv at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (P330y)
Only works if a man invented the vibrator.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (h4vJk)
The publishing industry needs a shakeout and this ought to do it.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (QHgTq)
Women buy the majority of books, and rather than trying to attract more
men, the publishing industry just pushes out more crap aimed at women.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale
True, but a very large fraction of it is "romance", which is so formulaic it could be written by an autistic chimp. Such books can, and will be, written by computer in the near future.
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (LAe3v)
The vote.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 02:41 PM (w5okt)
The automobile.
Alternating current.
The television.
The telephone.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (2Ojst)
Married women wouldn't. ........
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (w5okt)
Posted by: gm at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (K0tm3)
Because it is.
But Feminism is a more mainstream, en vogue KKK, which is so 1880s.
So, yeah.
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (Jg4BE)
Women invented all that in secret, but were denied the credit! Black, African lesbian handicapped left handed epileptic Muslim women!
-Womyn's studies 101
It is clear that there is a gender bias in publishing houses and the world of books.
Yes there is sweetie, but its in your favor.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (39g3+)
That's the answer to the question: "What would feminist hell look like?"
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (k2QA3)
Chapter One
A HANDFUL OF EARTH
My name is Tarl Cabot. The name is supposed to have been shortened in the fifteenth century from the Italian surname Cabato. As far as I know, however, I have no connection with he Venetian explorer who carried the banner of Henry VII to the New World. Such a connection seems unlikely for a number of reasons, among them the fact that my people were simple tradesmen of Bristol, and uniformly fair-complexioned andtopped with a blaze of the most outrageous red hair. Nonethe less, such coincidences, even if they are onlygeographical, linger in family memory - our small challengeto the ledgers and arithmetic of an existence measured inbolts of cloth sold. I like to think there may have been aCabot in Bristol, one of us, who watched our Italian namesakeweigh anchor in the early morning of that second of May, 1497.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (evdj2)
Waves hand and gesticulates, I invented the Tampon!
Posted by: Timmy Stroker the Perv at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (P330y)
125 119 How about a year in which men withhold from women the use of all the things which men have invented?
Only works if a man invented the vibrator.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft
Actually, for reals, men invented both the tampon AND the vibrator.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Chris Brown at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM
Oh. Joy. 2018...the Year of the Caged Bird Singing.
*vomits*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (h4vJk)
With a piss elm club. Repeatedly. DIAF skank.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (F1Z8f)
119 How about a year in which men withhold from women the use of all the things which men have invented?
Only works if a man invented the vibrator.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (nqiq9)
They did. As a "hysteria" cure.
Then in the late nineteenth century, electricity entered American homes, and the first electric appliances appeared: the electric fan, toaster, tea kettle, and sewing machine. In 1880, more than a decade before the invention of the electric iron and vacuum cleaner, an enterprising English physician, Dr. Joseph Mortimer Granville, patented the electromechanical vibrator.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: NY Times at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (0xTsz)
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:45 PM (jBuUi)
And plastic.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (2Ojst)
True, but a very large fraction of it is "romance", which is so
formulaic it could be written by an autistic chimp. Such books can, and
will be, written by computer in the near future.
And '1984' becomes a little more real.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (YQVYW)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (H3SRF)
I get a lot of modern books via big epub dumps on the torrents. The download will be 200-300 books, of which 80% are trashy romance novels with obviously fake "classy pornstar" author names.
Tell me that publishing isn't dominated by the wimmens. Even worse, is that it's by the literary equivalent of cotton candy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (vXKGT)
A lot of women do, judging by the popularity of 50 Shades.
Yet, GRRM says there is no such thing as a SJW.
Yeah well look at him. Its his only shot at getting laid besides his money.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Lukas at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (V8f5k)
Posted by: Thomas Crapper at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (P330y)
I read a ton of female authors and I decided pride and prejudice was my favorite book at 16 and haven't seen any that changed my mind. I don't have any problem with female authors work.
However, I am constantly mystified by this complaint that there aren't enough female published authors. Because...has miss thing ever been to a bookstore? OR Amazon?
She seems to be based her complaints on awards, which I don't care about.
Posted by: Lea at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (lIU4e)
Yet, GRRM says there is no such thing as a SJW.
Posted by: gm at June 05, 2015 02:44 PM (K0tm3)
Because he is one.
Actually, by sheer mass alone, he's about three.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (4df7R)
<<<
And then I finished my fifth beer, dropped trou, and BAM! "Your $20 is on the nightstand," I said as I headed for the door.
Posted by: Fritz at June 05, 2015 02:47 PM (jDqfn)
I s'pose if you've thus far avoided TB in some deep blue tenement, that whole publishing thing is a thing.
Posted by: Ontogeny recapitulates the collaborative effort of phylogeny in sexual reproduction at June 05, 2015 02:48 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 02:48 PM (fWAjv)
Fvckin A. We can do this.
But as a hysteria cure, it was a dismal failure.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (nqiq9)
F'n yahoo news tried to make it out as a running gun battle yesterday.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (w5okt)
Radical idea in 2015.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (k2QA3)
Posted by: Lukas
I think everybody went off on the wrong track here. Ace wasn't commenting on her "looks," but rather on the smug expression she (and her ilk) has.
Then everybody misinterpreted what Ace was doing and dogpiled on her looks. I agree -- it's not the point.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (jBuUi)
Let's have a year in publishing in which next to nothing gets bought...
...'cause killing the publishing houses is totes important!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (95CzI)
Yep.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (nqiq9)
Hell... I'm still looking for the Anti Clinton Vast Right Wing Conspiracy....
Never did receive my invitation to join...
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (qh617)
Flash to the 'womb manipulation' scene in Road to Wellville
Tell me that publishing isn't dominated by the wimmens
It is. It really, really is. At all levels, from the agents to the publishers. Women control publishing, and prefer buying women's manuscripts.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (5IbXh)
That one with the zombies was kind of fun.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (ZbV+0)
The world sucks for them.
There is no joy, no happiness, no contentment.
Just a long list of grievances.
Hah, Hah, Hah!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (Zu3d9)
Oh! Same author wrote "Unbroken!" Oh, wait. That was about a man, too. Never mind.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (4df7R)
We preferred bottle rockets. But yeah, damn good times.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (nqiq9)
What about all the inventions women nagged men into inventing?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (81UWZ)
Die, cis-scum!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (F1Z8f)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (gRnYL)
Posted by: wiserbud at June 05, 2015 02:50 PM (XlHZs)
was no mention of Toni Morrison, Marilynne Robinson, Annie Proulx, Anne
Tyler, Donna Tartt, Jhumpa Lahiri or any other contemporary female
writer.
*AHEM*
Posted by: Diana Galbadon at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (k2QA3)
I don't really care what the scrunts are bitchin' about. I will publish until the revolution begins, and then I will write equipment maintenance manuals. Forward men!
Posted by: Ann Coulter at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (P330y)
Posted by: Moochelle at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Aviator at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (sQzB6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (FsuaD)
Amazing isn't it that in the absence of any facts, her mind leaps to the blackest construction possible. Hers is a mind perfectly bludgeoned into PC submission.
I don't know all the facts, but I do know that a book prize run out of an office in my range of hearing has a hard time getting publishers to submit things and to submit them on time. Why? Because publishing houses lack the money to pay full-time permanent prize submitters. This job is pushed onto part-timers who just monitor a given calendar and put whatever books have enough copies lying around in the mail. There is very little oversight in this process. So it's about as far from "institutional racism" as can be imagined. It's not even institutionalized, let alone racialized.
But Kamila Shamsie, having the usual PC axe to grind, simply accepts the worst theory as already proven.
"I've been uncomfortable with the imbalance between male and female writers in terms of the books that get submitted for prizes that I'm judging on a number of occasions."
Like I said, the concept of gender should be abolished in favor of the more regnant concept, "mood."
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: Null at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (xjpRj)
That's going to take a lot of beer and a huge pile of snow.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 05, 2015 02:49 PM (5IbXh)
That's what you knit from, silly.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Ontogeny recapitulates the collaborative effort of phylogeny in sexual reproduction
Canning -- invented by a MAN:
"In 1809, Nicolas Appert, a French confectioner and brewer, observed that food cooked inside a jar did not spoil unless the seals leaked, and developed a method of sealing food in glass jars. The reason for lack of spoilage was unknown at the time, since it would be another 50 years before Louis Pasteur demonstrated the role of microbes in food spoilage."
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Lauren at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM (3PHtU)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM (YQVYW)
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 02:43 PM (C278+)
Women can make that sort of "sacrifice".
Men? I don't think so.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM (zRby/)
Kinda hit and miss.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM (LA7Cm)
Doesn't sound as if she has a lot of confidence in the belief that men and women have equal abilities.
It's not like this is a zero sum game. But liberals love to see zero sum games everywhere. That's why they hate capitalism.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 05, 2015 02:53 PM (F1Z8f)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 05, 2015 02:53 PM (W5DcG)
Elizabeth Gilbert used to write pretty good books about men, too, until she discovered it didn't pay as well.
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:53 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:53 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 05, 2015 02:53 PM (LA7Cm)
When you master that skill, I know where you could build a quick list of fans. Especially if there are pics.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (nqiq9)
The overall program is to disrupt and degrade the civil society in order that the Total State may invade and usurp the moderating role to restore order.
Progressives are the party of pain and death.
Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (Dq8Uc)
In the entire discussion, which lasted nearly an hour, there was no mention of Toni Morrison, Marilynne Robinson, Annie Proulx, Anne Tyler, Donna Tartt, Jhumpa Lahiri or any other contemporary female writer.
So all that was necessary was for to have rattled off those names and added "...all suck" and she'd have been happy? Who knew?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (95CzI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (rCLf/)
Men? I don't think so.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM (zRby/)
For my wife it's a mission statement
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (C278+)
have been written by women, the percentage of women on the longlist has
been slightly over 40%. The percentage of women on the shortlist has
been 46%. The percentage of women who go on to win the prize has been
exactly 40%."
So she's saying the percentage of female winners is exactly the same as the percentage of female entries- but that's unfair under-representation?
Logic? Never heard of it...
Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (PP2q9)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (eOpVe)
Do I think she was serious? No. Editors give these assignments and tell people to be provocative. It stimulates conversation and hits. You see these all the freaking time these days. It's a paycheck.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at June 05, 2015 02:54 PM (H3SRF)
Actually women invented quite a lot, such as fire escapes, car heaters, life rafts, and the modern electrical refrigerator. And, of course, the technique that modern cell phones use to search for the clearest signal.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (39g3+)
I read Beatrix Potter to my kids and then cry about how far children's literature has fallen.
Posted by: Lauren at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (3PHtU)
You could write a book with a penis but it would special skill to write it with your vagina
That's going to take a lot of beer and a huge pile of snow.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2015 02:51 PM (ZbV+0)
Just so it isn't in Barney Frank's handwriting.....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (vXKGT)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (0xTsz)
Perhaps it shows a disturbing lack of lack of bias.
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM
We could probably Horde source some great Bulwer-Lytton Bad Fiction Contest entries with this thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (YQVYW)
Posted by: Henry Bemis at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (evdj2)
It isn't. Stupidity is as old as man.
Whatever happened to factual, honestly reached, thoughtful intellectual conclusions? They've been substituted with fanboi propaganda, the latest empty head rant, social "shaming" and people who shout the loudest.
Posted by: Marcsu T at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Pol Pot at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (agKOd)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (4SpTU)
And most books for men written by men, for that matter. Fun, but crap.
Women can make that sort of "sacrifice".
Men? I don't think so.
I dunno what women you've been hanging around but I think they need sex more than men. They're just better at keeping it to themselves.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Women & Women First at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (fUjxW)
Should be a good one
Posted by: McCool at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (nCSwS)
The Mons Venus strip club in Tampa sells T-shirt vag art the dancers have imprinted with their particular labia impressions.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (P330y)
Posted by: Ontogeny recapitulates the collaborative effort of phylogeny in sexual reproduction at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (kjDs0)
Added it to my pile of books to donate to the animal shelter gift shop.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Lysistrata by Aristophanes at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (k2QA3)
performance art of a statement runs it's course, right?
Doesn't Bob G's daughter publish Penthouse?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (w5okt)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM
And this surprises you....why? 7th C. savages gonna savage.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (h4vJk)
We could probably Horde source some great Bulwer-Lytton Bad Fiction Contest entries with this thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (h4vJk)
Teh Ewok could use some help with the script for Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 02:59 PM (vXKGT)
[210 194 , "....it was a small, light mattress of the type favored by college co-eds. It was easy to carry, and while it wasn't as comfortable as the mattress in my nice, clean room at the Y, it would do just fine...."
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (YQVYW)
"...fine, that is, if you could ignore the variously colored and viscous fluids' remnants sprinkled liberally thereon. I thought, 'Tis a pity that someone cavalierly tossed aside such a promising topic for a senior thesis', as I pulled out my..."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 02:59 PM (95CzI)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 02:59 PM (oVJmc)
Push through. Your hatred will whipsaw all over the place, though the ending is unsatisfying for a man.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:00 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2015 03:00 PM (av6Vs)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 05, 2015 03:00 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 02:52 PM
We could probably Horde source some great Bulwer-Lytton Bad Fiction Contest entries with this thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:56 PM (h4vJk)
But as we entered the ally, some bint came up and said 'no, you can't use that... rapist... I need it for my next porno movie."
She then put the mattress on her head, and walked away.
The Tall Brunette with the 45 caliber rack, looked at me with disgust and said 'even I don't get that..."
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:00 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Lauren at June 05, 2015 02:55 PM (3PHtU)
I can sympathize. My boyfriend's sister recently had a baby, and I've been trying to buy her plenty of quality children's literature from before the era of "Captain Underpants" and stuff like that. Fairy tales and Beatrix Potter as a child, "The Secret Garden" and "Alice in Wonderland" when she's a little older. Someday an assortment of Nancy Drew.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:00 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: wth at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (wAQA5)
I'm assuming that this miserable scrunt has a book coming out now, hence the attempt to game the awards process.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (vXKGT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (5IbXh)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
?????
Where did you get that "information"?
At least 99% of the long process of inventing the concept of refrigeration was done by men:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Refrigeration_technology
In fact, I can't find any women in that summation at all who contributed to the invention of refrigeration.
Please clarify which woman was solely responsible for this major invention!
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (evdj2)
My least favorite females in writing are these:
1) The super ninja woman who is always right, can kick more ass than any man, never breaks a nail, and knows everything; basically Jane Bond. They call this "empowered," I call it "boring."
2) The pretty girl whose only virtue is being pretty, and otherwise is vain, selfish, obnoxious to the guy, and generally is unattractive in her life and soul. But big tits! This one shows up in 99.9% of movies with a romance story in them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (39g3+)
Lauren, my daughter loved the next step up from Potter, James Herriott.
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM (4SpTU)
Oh, absolutely! He wrote some great books for children, not to mention adults.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (4df7R)
Maybe check out Nevada Barr mysteries? Her main character is a tough broad.
Posted by: Lysistrata by Aristophanes at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (k2QA3)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 02:57 PM
And this surprises you....why? 7th C. savages gonna savage.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 02:58 PM (h4vJk)
Hey... don't worry! We'll get them all H1B visas and they can come work for US!
Posted by: Disney IT Dept. at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (qh617)
"can of Lysol. I shivered at the thought of touching that mattress, but one look at that rack, and I thought......well, the thinking stopped. She turned and looked at me, her gaze moved....."
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (nqiq9)
I guess I even thought the Pakis had some sort of "show trial" stuff and wanted to get these radicals off the street.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (YQVYW)
Posted by: wth at June 05, 2015 03:02 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 03:03 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:03 PM (C278+)
I'm guessing this would have nothing to do with her personality.
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (LA7Cm)
But we just flipped it over and . . .
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (zRby/)
Please clarify which woman was solely responsible for this major invention!
Mother-in-Law's Love was the inspiration for refrigeration.
Nothing is colder.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (w5okt)
*spoiler* I've only seen the Gone Girl movie, but in addition to hating both husband and wife, I found the psycho wife's penchant for framing her men for murder and sexual assault disturbing when we're currently dealing with Mattress Girl and Jackie.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (k2QA3)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (vXKGT)
http://tinyurl.com/pmfbxot
Sure, it's O/T.
But look at thread topic for gods sake.
You can only discuss stupid ugly women for so many comments
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (VPLuQ)
Yes, the bits that make up a refrigerator was made almost exclusively by men. But from what I can tell, a woman is the one that put them together to replace the icebox with an electric device.
http://www.askcathyblog.com/?p=823
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (39g3+)
All men.
Where did you get that list?
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (jBuUi)
Please clarify which woman was solely responsible for this major invention!
Posted by: zombi
I was well on my way to public acclaim for my invention when the right wing crushed my dreams.
Posted by: Rachel Corrie at June 05, 2015 03:05 PM (P330y)
The publishing industry is on life support.
"Dead tree" editions aren't selling like they used to and the major publishers still haven't mapped out a coherent strategy for e-books.
So, any idea of shuttering half of the industry to placate a handful of whinny authors is just out of the question.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 05, 2015 03:05 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (e8kgV)
kick more ass than any man, never breaks a nail, and knows everything;
basically Jane Bond. They call this "empowered," I call it "boring."
2) The pretty girl whose only virtue is being pretty, and otherwise
is vain, selfish, obnoxious to the guy, and generally is unattractive in
her life and soul. But big tits! This one shows up in 99.9% of movies
with a romance story in them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:01 PM (39g3+)
UGH. Agree, 100%.
Also, as much as I love Hermione Granger, I hate when it's always the FEMALE character who's the "smart" one. This is the problem I have with pretty much every TV depiction of marriage, where the wife's the savvy, smart half of the couple while the man's a bumbling doofus who'd be lost without his brilliant wife. What's wrong with having a female character be the ditz and a male character be the brainy one? Nothing, except to the shrieking leftwing harpies who mouthfart "MANSPLAINING!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Surellin at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (QTz4t)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 05, 2015 03:07 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:07 PM (C278+)
Really awesome invention by a woman?
Kevlar.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:04 PM (vXKGT)
This. And thank God.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 03:07 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (YQVYW)
THIS
So tiresome.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (k2QA3)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (DT3rQ)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ouz3g3x
Posted by: Reconquista! Return to state-sponsored human sacrifice! at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:08 PM (4SpTU)
http://www.pit.edu/blog/2013/10/top-25-inventions-by-women/
So, any idea of shuttering half of the industry to placate a handful of whinny authors is just out of the question.
Sure, if your goal is to make money and survive as a business, its irrational. But if your goal is something else...
Also, as much as I love Hermione Granger, I hate when it's always the FEMALE character who's the "smart" one.
Well, Hermione was JK Rowling's Mary Sue.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (39g3+)
So, you're familiar with Welcome Back Kotter, I see.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (VPLuQ)
Funny part?
How I met your Mother.... where the funny smart Man, is actually played by a Gay guy...
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (4SpTU)
Yes, the bits that make up a refrigerator was made almost exclusively by men. But from what I can tell, a woman is the one that put them together to replace the icebox with an electric device.
...............................................
A leap forward in sammich making.
Posted by: wth at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (wAQA5)
And I don't read books by men that write from a "female" viewpoint. Because penis.
Neither usually does a very good job of it because their gender viewpoint gets in their way.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Senouktar Harreebeb al-Reedy at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Puh-leeze.
She is a minor, peripheral character in the development of refrigeration.
The scientific theories underpinning refrigeration: all discovered by men.
First working mechanical refrigerators: Men
The development of electricity: All men.
First Electrical refrigerators: Men.
The role of Florence Parpart has been vastly exaggerated by revisionist feminist historians.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 03:10 PM (jBuUi)
FEMALE character who's the "smart" one. This is the problem I have with
pretty much every TV depiction of marriage, where the wife's the savvy,
smart half of the couple while the man's a bumbling doofus who'd be lost
without his brilliant wife. What's wrong with having a female character
be the ditz and a male character be the brainy one? Nothing, except to
the shrieking leftwing harpies who mouthfart "MANSPLAINING!"
A show like that could never be popular or it would have been done successfully before.
Posted by: Desi Arnez at June 05, 2015 03:10 PM (QHgTq)
"can of Lysol. I shivered at the thought of touching that mattress, but one look at that rack, and I thought......well, the thinking stopped. She turned and looked at me, her gaze moved....."
"...nervously, back and forth, across my lazily hardening salami, which I had been packing for one week now and the explicit instructions from the seller warned that another three weeks were needed before it would be ready to consume. 'Would she think anything was amiss if I were to turn around and remove it, while loudly declaiming, 'Turn your head and cough'?'. Her voice husky with desire, she asked, 'Is there something you want to...'"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 03:10 PM (95CzI)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:10 PM (39g3+)
Rand, Bronte, Christi, Austen and a handful of others that I've felt worth reading.
Most modern female authors are just not worth the time and effort.
That is to say they have nothing to offer that speaks to me.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 05, 2015 03:11 PM (VRdqG)
I know that world. They've been producing unreadable books and unintelligible paintings and painfully incoherent music (thanks John Cage) for nearly a century now. Occasionally, one or two of them will produce something worthwhile, but for the most part they remain insular, usually cloistered on college campuses throughout the country, spending most of their time signalling to each other their cultural andintellectual superiority. Tiresome, really.
Posted by: troyriser at June 05, 2015 03:11 PM (S08gh)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (zRby/)
Yeah.... its almost like there is a difference in the way Men and Women think....
Who woulda thunk it?
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (FsuaD)
Why is there no Alexthechick to discuss this topic. This is a subject that very much deserves Alexthechick calm and collected attention.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (OiH3z)
http://www.pit.edu/blog/2013/10/top-25-inventions-by-women/
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
NEVER believe lists like that.
Look at each invention's history individually. You will find that these kind of list are almost entirely bullshit.
I can find similar list "proving" that most inventions were made by Muslims; and another list "proving" that most inventions were made by blacks; etc. etc.
They're just propaganda. They hand you a predigested list and just HOPE that you don't investigate any deeper.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (jBuUi)
It's only a short step from that, to Hand Babies.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:13 PM (MDgS8)
Mary Shelley?
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:13 PM (C278+)
Why is there no Alexthechick to discuss this topic. This is a subject that very much deserves Alexthechick calm and collected attention.
Where is Our Lady of the Ample Bosum?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:13 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: George Washington Carver, Legume Visionary at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (8ZskC)
"This is the problem I have with pretty much every TV depiction of marriage, where the wife's the savvy, smart half of the couple while the man's a bumbling doofus who'd be lost without his brilliant wife. "
Of course there's always the option of writing women (and men) who are sometimes brilliant, sometimes stupid, depending on the situation. You know, like real life.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (vXKGT)
Yes, yes calm and collected attention
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (C278+)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (MDgS8)
Pretty much I don't read books by women that write from a "male" viewpoint. Because vagina. (major exception: Louise Bujold)
And I don't read books by men that write from a "female" viewpoint. Because penis.
Neither usually does a very good job of it because their gender viewpoint gets in their way.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 03:09 PM (zRby/)"
George V.Higgins who wrote "The Friends of Eddie Coyle" and a bunch of other books about Boston criminals, cops and lawyers was great at dialogue. Most of his books were almost entirely dialogue.
The problem was that when he had other sorts of characters like teenaged girls or rich women who had been debutants, he had them all talking like Boston cops or criminals.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (QHgTq)
Posted by: Thorvald Asvaldsson at June 05, 2015 03:15 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 05, 2015 03:15 PM (nL0sw)
Yeah, and that is pretty much dominated by men mostly because female professors dominate fields with no literary or academic validity or use whatsoever.
Those are the kinds of books that almost nobody actually reads, but pretend they do so they seem important and part of the cool kids. The stuff you put on a bookshelf prominently to show off how smart you are when the Manhattan cocktail party set comes over.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (39g3+)
"share with me? I nervously eyed her package, hoping her salami wasn't larger, harder, and more ready than mine. She took out her package, and slowly began....."
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (nqiq9)
It pisses me off also that the number of romance novels about women being ravaged by pirates is declining.
Posted by: Hank at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (mb+j8)
Posted by: Larry Correia at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (F1Z8f)
Just thought I'd toss that out there.
Posted by: George Washington Carver, Legume Visionary at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (8ZskC)
No more rymeing! I mean it!
Posted by: Vizinni at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (qh617)
1. Romance novels
2. Thinly veiled romance novels
3. Self-help / diet / parenting
4. Fantasy novels about boning a billionaire vampire.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (bjjgT)
Posted by: Steve White at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (kjDs0)
Nguyet Anh Duong
Thermobaric weapon
http://tinyurl.com/nfxtl42
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (mGBKM)
That's because they're being replaced by dinosaurs. (the Pirates, that is)
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (LAe3v)
Most excellent
The only thing I've ever invented was a salad.Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (39g3+)
The Bulletproof vest not being invented until the '60s may want to let the 19-teens know that uh they are anachronistic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest
I love fucking idiots who think they know what the f**k they are talking about.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (/4AZU)
Her absence has been noticeable. Perhaps due to overdeployment of the broad brush on certain topics of late, but I'm in no position to know for sure.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (DT3rQ)
Yep. Like the radio telling me that an African-American invented the lawn mower.
Yeah if he was in Scotland in the 1800's.
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (sCHw2)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (/zoKJ)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (/4AZU)
(and men) who are sometimes brilliant, sometimes stupid, depending on
the situation. You know, like real life.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:14 PM (vXKGT)
HAH! TV networks are too pussified for that.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (4df7R)
Yeah if he was in Scotland in the 1800's.
It's true, the Scots invented sheep.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: buzzion at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (4SpTU)
It pisses me off also that the number of romance novels about women being ravaged by pirates is declining.
Posted by: Hank at June 05, 2015 03:16 PM (mb+j
Comfort yourself with the knowledge that romance novels about men being rogered by Tyrannosaurs is on the rise!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (4df7R)
It's only a short step from that, to Hand Babies.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2015 03:12 PM (VPLuQ)
296 Bitch so ugly she melted my touchscreen.
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:13 PM (MDgS
Hand babies.....touchscreen.
Is it me, or did someone throw some Pixy dust on the comments to produce this serendipitous pairing?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (vXKGT)
Posted by: Steve White at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (kjDs0)
Really awesome invention by a woman?
.....................................
I know it wasn't fake boobs.
Posted by: wth at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (wAQA5)
Black Diamonds abound. Or squares. Or something.
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (ODxAs)
sometimes brilliant, sometimes stupid, depending on the situation. You
know, like real life.
Have to say, they do this with "Modern Family."
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (k2QA3)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (vg8iE)
Paul McCartney's mother invented Wite-Out (TM).
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (MDgS8)
Quite....
Lady Kevlar invented the bullet proof vest...
in uh 1538...and she TOTALLY innovated the idea of a fabric vest....
if you know you ignore the tightly wound silk vests of the late 1800s...
people are so willfully stupid on history it hurts my brain and made me prefer working in toxic waste.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (/4AZU)
This is a limitation every author faces, and its good to know that and avoid showing it off if at all possible. Nobody is great at writing every single possible character and story. I love Dashiell Hammett's work but I wouldn't want to read a high fantasy or breezy comedy work by him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (39g3+)
First of all: The electric refrigerator HAD ALREADY BEEN INVENTED by 1914: Fred W. Wolf and Nathaniel B. Wales BOTH separately filed patents for and successful produced home refrigeration units BEFORE Parpart "invented" them.
Her "invention," if anything, was likely some marginal improvement on the existing design.
Secondly, as even that feminist blog notes, it was likely her fiancee who actually did the engineering.
So: No. A woman did not invent the refrigerator.
Posted by: zombie at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (k2QA3)
324 317 Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 03:17 PM (LAe3v)
Pirates are ravishing dinosaurs?
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:18 PM (/4AZU)
Aye Matey.... any port in a Storm... and it was a LONG cruise to Jurrasic Park...
Posted by: NoBeard the Pirate at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (qh617)
Hah! I don't always beat MWR, but when I do, I prefer to discuss women ravished by large reptiles.
Posted by: pep at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (8uhgy)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (nqiq9)
The initial lawnmower was called "the automated sheep"...
it was kind of like a mechanical bull for the Scots I guess.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:21 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at June 05, 2015 03:21 PM (TV9BR)
To my surprise, most of the girls seemed excited by their sale and displayed their charms with brazen gusto, each seeming to compete with the one before to bring a higherprice. It was, of course, far more desirable to bring a high price, thereby guaranteeing that one's master would be well fixed. Accordingly, the girls did their best to move the interest of the buyers. I noted that Talena, like others in the room, did not seem in the least to feel that there was anything objectionable or untoward in this commerce in beauty. It was an accepted, ordinary part of the life of Gor. I wondered if, on my own planet, there was not a similar market, invisible but present, and just as much accepted, a market in which women were sold, except that they sold themselves, were themselves both merchandise and merchant.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:21 PM (evdj2)
Glad Sven is here as well as Scogg
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (F1Z8f)
Not just no, but Fuck no!
Posted by: Killerdog at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (Bu+ik)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: Angus-the-Stonebuilder at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (kjDs0)
Posted by: buzzion at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (z/Ubi)
I absolutely adore the secret garden! I used to watch the movie (maybe a hallmark version). I bought the book a few years ago to reread as an adult and still love it.
It's so quiet. So English. I just love it.
Posted by: Lea at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:20 PM (nqiq9)
Yea, still cleaning off the love ick..
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (C278+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 03:22 PM (fWAjv)
Thanks...glad you're aboot too eh...
I'm serious the willful ignorance of history damn near put me in the asylum in the 90s.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:23 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 05, 2015 02:46 PM (F1Z8f)
I bet I know how it will end!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 03:23 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:23 PM (MDgS8)
Somehow I think the Scots envisioned another purpose when they heard of the "automated sheep".
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 05, 2015 03:23 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (XO6WW)
It took less than one day to get from the AoSHQ book club to killing the publishing business.
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (48QDY)
They were baaaaaad men.
Posted by: the sheep at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: X at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (xGNLA)
Arrr, it be lonely out at sea for month after month. The velociraptor never stood a chance.
Posted by: A Pirate at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (39g3+)
And it ruined the sex lives of thousands of ugly Scots.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (8ZskC)
relationship enabled by her dogs tongue and a jar of peanut butter.
Posted by: WonkishRogue at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (5/exA)
Paul McCartney's mother invented Wite-Out (TM).
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:19 PM (MDgS8
Nope. Mike Nesmith's mother
Posted by: Women & Women First at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (fUjxW)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at June 05, 2015 02:25 PM (yxw0r)
My day improved 150% because I saw this.
Thank you sir and God bless!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (Dwehj)
That drawer for keeping deli meats fresh longer.
Can't make a good sammich without fresh deli meats.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 05, 2015 03:06 PM (4df7R)
The misandry is quite evident in modern tv.
Posted by: Titanium at June 05, 2015 03:25 PM (j/0FK)
Willful ignorance of accurate history...
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Alex Troutbrook at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (Dwehj)
I tried reading those and couldn't get far into the first book. I know they are supposed to be Horatio Hornblower in space, and the idea interests me but it just didn't click.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (39g3+)
Speaking of whinny authors, when is John Kerry's book due out?
Posted by: torquewrench at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (noWW6)
so did Parpart invent the butter keeper or the egg tray?
Posted by: Women & Women First at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (fUjxW)
They write about their vaginas and the silly little popcorn farts that float through their heads.
The appeal is near zero.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 05, 2015 03:24 PM (XO6WW)
A good example of my premise.
David Weber is a very good author. the Honor Harrington books are one dimensional in my view and there's a reason for that.
And it starts with David being a male attempting to write a female protagonist.
Boring and repetitive. And no depth. IMO.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (zRby/)
>>>" We should make 2018 the year of publishing romance novels written by men!"
<<<
Actually Romance novels used to be mostly written by men. The agency I used to work represented one of the last of them still in the business. Well into the 80's he was still chugging along under a batch of pseudonyms.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (/zoKJ)
Real life isn't that entertaining.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (w5okt)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (8ZskC)
>>Marco Rubio and His Wife Cited 17 Times for Traffic Infractions<<
Ask me if I give a shit. What a stupid hit job.
Hillary gets a US ambassador and others killed, lies about her email, ignores the rules on DoS email, lies again and the NYT is focused on Rubio's driving habits.
Personally I also think it's racist. What are they trying to say about hispanic drivers?
Posted by: Marcsu T at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (GGCsk)
Speaking of whinny authors, when is John Kerry's book due out?
Posted by: torquewrench at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (noWW6)
ISWYDT
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (95CzI)
Not all of them, of course. But men at their best.
This is what feminista novelists do not feel or understand, so they write for each other and throw fits when no one else loves them.
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:27 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (noWW6)
You mean Horse of a Different Color?
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (C278+)
Posted by: Mickey Dolenz's Mom at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
A little music?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/odcqpo2
Posted by: Carl Orff at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (kjDs0)
More likely it was one of those inventions that several people came up with around the same time combining previous tech, like the Telephone. Who really came up with the best workable system? I don't really know. All I know is she came up with the design, her husband made it work, and she patented it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, I know, they aren't 'serious' enough books for this special snowflake. Sorry, you don't get to frame the argument down to the only way you can show a problem. Selling books is selling books. And although Stephanie Meyer is NOT a gifted writer, if it's a choice between a "Twilight" book or a visionary epoch of womyn's struggle and inequality?.....I'm Team Edward.
Posted by: dwagyak at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (ZAs5/)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 05, 2015 03:26 PM (noWW6)<<<
*uses left front hoof to tap out 2016*
Posted by: John F'n Kerry, SOSUS/Viet Vet at June 05, 2015 03:29 PM (sCHw2)
Two Pieces of obvious trivia- Harley Davidson was started by two dudes named Harley and Davidson. Same with Grey Poupon, Mr. Grey and Mr. Poupon.
Two very different ways to try to pick up chicks. Motorcycles and Sandwiches.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 03:29 PM (ODxAs)
I agree, but in my english major days, I went through a phase where I read chick--lit thinking that it would give me insight into how chicks thought--the better to master the art of picking them up.
It didn't work.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:30 PM (/zoKJ)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:30 PM (MDgS8)
Two Pieces of obvious trivia- Harley Davidson was started by two dudes named Harley and Davidson. Same with Grey Poupon, Mr. Grey and Mr. Poupon.
And Smith Brothers cough drops were the brainchild of Jaclyn Smith and Joyce Brothers.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 03:30 PM (95CzI)
13 of those 17 were by Rubio's wife. What are they trying to say about women drivers?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:30 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:28 PM (39g3+)
And could very well have been patented under her name so the Husband would have no conflict of interest with his job.... ie so his employer could not claim any ownership of the patent...
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:31 PM (qh617)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2015 03:31 PM (MDgS8)
At least in my case, I think it is because women focus so much on describing what people are feeling, their motivations, their relationships, and their inner dialogue. And the characters they write tend to bother me with their decision making such that I don't end up liking the characters. The things the women writers tend to focus on tend to slow down the story and simply don't interest me.
It's the same with comedy. While there are a few funny female comedians, overall, most female comedians I've ever heard simply are not funny. I don't think this is because women can't be funny, just that the things most female comedians focus on simply don't interest me or appeal to me enough for me to find them funny.
But, with all of that said, with e-publishing, anyone who wants to can publish a book and sell it on Amazon. the idea that there are women authors out there who "can't get published because so many men are being published" is nonsense.
But, of course, when your entire identity is built around finding gender discrimination, you will find it everywhere you look.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (/zoKJ)
Uh-oh.
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Hector at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (8ZskC)
"Women Deserve Orgasm Equality"
http://tinyurl.com/pbnggy2
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:33 PM (4SpTU)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2015 03:33 PM (/zoKJ)
Posted by: Jon Carry what served in Vietnam at June 05, 2015 03:34 PM (Dwehj)
By the way she looks like this because of course she does.
I shouldn't have clicked that link. My dick just asked to be chopped off and tossed in a shredder, or at least to be put under lock & key in a chastity belt.
I felt raped...just by her gaze.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 05, 2015 03:34 PM (1hM1d)
I like what I like...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_C._Crispin
Was not a bad sci-fi writer...
and I'm sorry she's passed on...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:34 PM (/4AZU)
Hey. If they can't get it it's their own fault. We start at the same time.
Posted by: Golfman at June 05, 2015 03:35 PM (48QDY)
This is a very real possibility, yeah.
I've never seen a pattern of good vs bad books by women or men. Women write some good books and a lot of crap, men write some good books and a lot of crap. There's very few good writers out there, and these days an ocean of lousy writers who are trying to make their way anyway. God bless em, it worked out for Meyers and James.
I know that often I'll be reading a book and go "I bet a woman wrote this" so I dig into the pseudonym and sure enough. Usually the tip off is that the women are all great and smart and good and the men are generally awful or worthless except the one hunky protagonist. Usually women write men very poorly, and have no feel for them at all.
There are exceptions though. BM Bower wrote a long series of hilarious and fun cowboy stories that rings incredibly true about men.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:35 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:35 PM (evdj2)
Did someone open a portal?
Posted by: Bill at June 05, 2015 03:35 PM (0jqpK)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 05, 2015 03:36 PM (8uhgy)
Nothing that hasn't been said a million times before.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:36 PM (w5okt)
But thinking about a female author that I liked, I guess Ann Rule. She writes true crime stuff though so maybe she doesn't count. She's good at it though. Her book on Ted Bundy is definitive.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 05, 2015 03:36 PM (oFCZn)
Get with the narrative, eleven
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 05, 2015 03:36 PM
By raycist white cops.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 05, 2015 03:36 PM (h4vJk)
*Southern* women writers of the modern or pre-modern era are good generally. They can do gothic like nobody's business.
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at June 05, 2015 03:37 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:37 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:37 PM (w5okt)
Ann Rule, and AC Crispin were writers who were female...
as opposed to FEMALE WRITERS
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:37 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Garrett at June 05, 2015 03:38 PM (LMagV)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 05, 2015 03:38 PM (8uhgy)
I think the weird stalker-ish relationship between colon and "semi-colon" is a little NC-17...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:38 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 05, 2015 03:38 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Ampersand at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (evdj2)
And most of it BS. But the Times is the one implying this and that would be something that you'd think women would get upset about. And hispanics. What are they implying, without meaning to, in this article?
Because that's their standard. That's what the left does. They presume that someone awful will take a statement of fact and twist it into hateful policy, take to the streets lynching and raping like its the number six dance.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (39g3+)
She's kind of hot but sorta underpowered...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (8uhgy)
Go outside your comfort zone beeeatch.
Posted by: MTF at June 05, 2015 03:39 PM (DkJ4E)
And it was all gutless plastic crap.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (39g3+)
De Stupentis
Teresa's Boy
Profiles in Slurrege
I Know Where the Staged Curs Swing
and my favorite:
You've Got A Friend
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (4SpTU)
Stephanie Meyers is not good at making beautiful sentences, and some of her characters were idiots. But she did something right to draw as many people in and keep them reading as she did. I read all four of those stupid books in a week and they aren't short. That is a type of gifted writing.
The women who write these things are writing for the masses but that's a lot smarter to me than writing some depressing 'literature' that about three people will read.
Posted by: Lea at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: The Man in Black at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (LMagV)
-----
Guess what toots. You'll be Mattress Girl FOREVER!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (fWAjv)
De Stupentis
Teresa's Boy
Profiles in Slurrege
I Know Where the Staged Curs Swing
and my favorite:
You've Got A Friend
They shoot horses, don't they?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (evdj2)
Not if Emma gets into cross-fit....then she may become recliner woman or "Frigid Aire"
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at June 05, 2015 03:41 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at June 05, 2015 03:42 PM (3ZtZW)
From the basilisk gaze of Kamila Shamsie.
Posted by: George Eliot at June 05, 2015 03:42 PM (F1Z8f)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 05, 2015 03:40 PM (fWAjv)
Well, eventually she'll mature to "Mattress Hag."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (8ZskC)
But later I have learned what a worthless pile of trash Johnson was. Democrat, but utterly reprehensible and awful president only put on the ticket to help Lincoln win. And JFK thought it was a noble act to preserve his presidency? The only reason I can think of is because Republicans were trying to get rid of the guy.
Funny how that all went away with Nixon, suddenly impeachment was heroic and good.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (39g3+)
Boring and repetitive. And no depth. IMO.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
But, but Honor's tall and commands the room! And she's tall! And she has a space cat! Did I mention that she's tall? Well, she is. And commanding. With a space cat on her lofty shoulders.
DID I MENTION THAT SHE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE SPACE CAT WITH. HER. TALL. MIND??????
Posted by: D. Weber at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (uctT+)
"Yeah, I mean, when people call me 'Mattress Girl' I find that really infuriating. It's like, okay great, so you think that I'll never progress beyond that point."
That's right, Sugar Britches, because you were sucking wind just to get as far a 'Mattress Girl'.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (95CzI)
Let's try something novel, make 2018 into Bang Only White Males Year!!
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 05, 2015 03:44 PM (AUEmh)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:44 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:45 PM (evdj2)
and maybe even (horror of horrors!) Pam Geller.
Go outside your comfort zone beeeatch.
Seriously, threadwinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:45 PM (w5okt)
Posted by: Monkeytoe at June 05, 2015 03:32 PM (3ZtZW)
Exactly.... its easy to fight an imaginary enemy, because its a safe fight.... as it can never really fight back.
Same with discrimination against Lesbians.... how the holy hell would I ever know you were a Lesbian unless you TOLD ME????
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:45 PM (qh617)
I find your ideas intriguing.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 03:46 PM (evdj2)
Leigh Brackett
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:47 PM (vXKGT)
DID I MENTION THAT SHE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE SPACE CAT WITH. HER. TALL. MIND??????
Posted by: D. Weber at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (uctT+)
You forgot the Genetic engineering that makes her stronger, faster, smarter, and psychic...
But now she has a much younger brother... wonder if he'll kick her ass...
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:47 PM (qh617)
Posted by: BB Wolf at June 05, 2015 03:45 PM (qh617)
I've seen a few that just screamed lesbian.
Posted by: wrg500 at June 05, 2015 03:47 PM (C278+)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 05, 2015 03:47 PM (w5okt)
Well, to be honest its not hard to guess with some of them. A lot, really.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Feh at June 05, 2015 03:49 PM (4SpTU)
Based on JJ's little profile of her this AM it sounds to me like she was, through high school, about what you'd expect from her parentage - so you've got the GPA, the academics, the extracurriculars, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents - at least Mom - was a helicopter parent flying NOE with night-vision equipment and a full missile loadout.
And then she gets to college, maybe she'd already started to push back before that but she gets to college and the parental pressure's now at a distance, and she's got boys and whiskey and suddenly she's Miley Cyrus, but every now and then she's got a serious guilt attack.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at June 05, 2015 03:50 PM (o+SC1)
I remember watching the "Profiles in Courage" series of films based on JFK's book.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2015 03:43 PM (39g3+)
You misspelled "Ted Sorensen".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 05, 2015 03:51 PM (vXKGT)
Posted by: Ayatollette Khameini at June 05, 2015 03:52 PM (F1Z8f)
Posted by: Diana Moon Glampers at June 05, 2015 03:54 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Chris Brown at June 05, 2015 03:57 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 05, 2015 04:06 PM (AUEmh)
415Unarmed Ampersand got killed.
Get with the narrative, eleven
-------
I'll see your "unarmed", and add "teenaged" to the list.
Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at June 05, 2015 04:10 PM (44OyV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 05, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)
Sarah Hoyt, if someone hasn't mentioned her already.
Posted by: Saber Alter at June 05, 2015 04:16 PM (eawKK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2015 04:24 PM (9HoBs)
I note that because I've been thinking about this twitter essay by a J R Salzman, who argues, persuasively, that 90% Identity Politics is just vengeance against those towards one feels envy.
This couldn't be more true.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 05, 2015 04:26 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2015 04:27 PM (9HoBs)
All Ms Shamsie has to do is start her own publishing house, staff it with only womyns, get financing from a womyn VC, and publish only womyns, distributing these titles only through womyn owned retailers.
Although, like the UAW, Bakers Union, and prospective Black® Community Owned Sports Franchises never stepping up to put up, I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: BuddyPC at June 05, 2015 04:31 PM (jfUIE)
that's the logical next extension of her "how about publishing people who don't write very well and therefore can't get contracts" theory.
Posted by: docweasel at June 05, 2015 05:27 PM (XxzcU)
Posted by: bitsko at June 05, 2015 06:21 PM (Qis9s)
Posted by: Socratease at June 05, 2015 07:35 PM (82qVG)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 05, 2015 09:45 PM (QdAXQ)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 05, 2015 10:07 PM (QdAXQ)
Let's put all the publishers in a rocket and fire it at the sun!
Posted by: RKae at June 06, 2015 03:00 AM (pMD4g)
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