Liberal Professor: My Liberal Students Terrify Me

Then all is right. Terror is virtue, Robspierre said. It is through terror that we compel virtue.

I don't like linking Vox, but this is worth reading, sort of, as it's, perhaps, a sign of the times. Here's the link. If you don't want to pick up Yglesias Cooties, which go right up your dickhole to lay their Eggs of Miserable Ignorance in your brain, you can read the excerpt at the Ace of Spades warm-up act.

The article is not by Yglesias.

I say it's sort of worth reading because the writer is such a leftist coward. The entire piece is framed around the argument that this New Reign of Terror is bad chiefly because it limits the potential for leftist political victories. He's such a scaredy-cat he cannot go two paragraphs without coming back to his major point -- or, possibly, his chief defense at the academic kangaroo court which will be investigating him for his heresies -- that his real problem is that this gonzo identity politics militancy just blocks us from effective action to protect abortion rights. (No really, he says that.)

I've cut that twaddle out. Not just because I'm anti-leftist, and thus this argument bothers me on a subjective level. But because the argument is basically this: Terrorizing people into political conformity could be or would be a valid form of "arguing," if it actually advanced leftist political goals, but it doesn't, so it isn't.

I tend to think that stupidity, solipsism, and social cruelty are objectively bad things, and not just bad because they fail the Marxist Ends Justify the Means test.

I'm a liberal professor, and my liberal students terrify me
by Edward Schlosser on June 3, 2015
I'm a professor at a midsize state school. I have been teaching college classes for nine years now...
Things have changed since I started teaching. The vibe is different. I wish there were a less blunt way to put this, but my students sometimes scare me -- particularly the liberal ones.
Not, like, in a person-by-person sense, but students in general. The student-teacher dynamic has been reenvisioned along a line that's simultaneously consumerist and hyper-protective, giving each and every student the ability to claim Grievous Harm in nearly any circumstance, after any affront, and a teacher's formal ability to respond to these claims is limited at best.
...

The real problem: a simplistic, unworkable, and ultimately stifling conception of social justice
This shift in student-teacher dynamic placed many of the traditional goals of higher education -- such as having students challenge their beliefs -- off limits...
The current student-teacher dynamic has been shaped by a large confluence of factors, and perhaps the most important of these is the manner in which cultural studies and social justice writers have comported themselves in popular media. I have a great deal of respect for both of these fields, but their manifestations online, their desire to democratize complex fields of study by making them as digestible as a TGIF sitcom, has led to adoption of a totalizing, simplistic, unworkable, and ultimately stifling conception of social justice. The simplicity and absolutism of this conception has combined with the precarity of academic jobs to create higher ed's current climate of fear, a heavily policed discourse of semantic sensitivity in which safety and comfort have become the ends and the means of the college experience.
This new understanding of social justice politics resembles what University of Pennsylvania political science professor Adolph Reed Jr. calls a politics of personal testimony, in which the feelings of individuals are the primary or even exclusive means through which social issues are understood and discussed. Reed derides this sort of political approach as essentially being a non-politics....
Personal experience and feelings aren't just a salient touchstone of contemporary identity politics; they are the entirety of these politics. In such an environment, it's no wonder that students are so prone to elevate minor slights to protestable offenses.
...
The press for actionability, or even for comprehensive analyses that go beyond personal testimony, is hereby considered redundant, since all we need to do to fix the world's problems is adjust the feelings attached to them and open up the floor for various identity groups to have their say. All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males. All that matters is that people are allowed to speak, that their narratives are accepted without question, and that the bad feelings go away.
So it's not just that students refuse to countenance uncomfortable ideas --they refuse to engage them, period. Engagement is considered unnecessary, as the immediate, emotional reactions of students contain all the analysis and judgment that sensitive issues demand.

This emotion-based style of "argumentation" is, it is forbidden to say, chiefly a female one (a dopey, girlish female one, not a womanly one), and one that has been lately adopted by the more female-skewing girlboys who are easily dominated by group will.

One problem with this "argument" from "Narrative" and "emotion" is that there is absolutely no separation between the idea and the person announcing it. Ergo, any disputation of the idea is taken -- necessarily, and accurately -- as a denigration of the value of the person advancing it.

And thus Feelings Get Butthurt.

It is absolutely imperative in any kind of intellectual discussion or inquiry to preserve some space between ego/emotion/self and the idea being advanced. Debate must be had about external claims, not the internal, intrinsic worthiness of a being.

"I'm important!" is not an argument; it is an ego-based squeal for attention and affirmation.

And that's what the Old System specifically ruled as out-of-bounds. Inquiry must investigate things outside the self -- otherwise it's just therapy.

Now, of course, there is no way to not get one's ego invested in an idea one pushes. But the code of intellectual inquiry was that people who did so were committing an error, and could (and should) be derided for doing so. The actual capital-T Truth must always exist as an ideal outside of oneself -- not just out of humility (can the Truth actually live inside a flawed human being?) but in order to make sure that the Truth could be argued about, without people--

Crying like little babies any time someone's conception of the Truth disagreed with theirs.

This entire mode shifts the grounds from Intellect -- where there are rules and codes and dispassionate standards -- to the Emotion, to the Self.

There's a reason the left wants to do that. Frankly, most of these people are rather dim, second-raters at best, and are accutely insecure about their place in the academic world, -- as they should be.

A demanding skill is involved in actual academic work -- a skill which we have lately taken to calling "Mansplaining," explaining based on evidence and reason without regard to your never-ending feelings about it all -- not to mention an evil inegalitarian natural talent (native academic intelligence) which makes some people simply better at it than others.

Intellectual discourse is, in short, necessarily elitist.

Pure emotional venting and demandng that one's Story Be Heard, on the other hand, is extremely democratic and egalitarian -- in a bad way. It's democratic and egalitarian the same way taking a loose, liquidy shit is democratic and egalitarian. Literally any wet-ass can do it.

That's why this mode is so favored by those of limited intelligence and ravenous insecurities -- it erases the advantage of those who are good at Thinking, instead advancing something that everyone is pretty good at -- Not Thinking -- as the chief mode of discourse.

I keep saying this, but man, everyone should watch David Mamet's Oleanna. Pretty much sums this all up, and he wrote that like twenty years ago.

Posted by: Ace at 01:38 PM

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1 Good.

Posted by: HH at June 03, 2015 01:40 PM (Qia1Z)

2 You created the problem sparky, deal with it.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at June 03, 2015 01:42 PM (4CRfK)

3 Really weird thing about that link...it took me to a site that looks remarkably like the Onion after an LSD incident. Without the sports.

Posted by: MTF at June 03, 2015 01:42 PM (LISuA)

4 almost first

Posted by: mallfly at June 03, 2015 01:42 PM (qSIlh)

5 Oui. There is a different vibe...of more violence than was ever seen in the "peaceful" riots of the sixties (remember the famous photo of the daisy in the police rifle). pfft

In speaking, a few yrs ago, to a niece's boyfriend liberal douchebag, he firmly believed in dividing the wealth. Did not matter if you had a stinkin' degree or an 8th grade level edumacation...you ALL should have the same chances and wealth. Riight. Raise minimum wage to that of the CEO, fellas.

It is the next Bastille coming soon to a local big city near you.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 03, 2015 01:42 PM (FCPu0)

6 This post is...problematic

Posted by: Tumblr at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (Tj+s6)

7 I saw Eggs of Miserable Ignorance open for Santana in 2010.

Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)

8 Your monkeys, your circus.
Enjoy, perfesser...

Posted by: tu3031 at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (YFFpo)

9 Guillotine!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (rwI+c)

10 David Mamet's Oleanna. Is that the one with William Macy as the professor accused by some female student?

Posted by: dantesed at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (88xKn)

11
Rush must be trolling you, Ace. Or vice versa? He just finished a whole segment about this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (St6BJ)

12 I'd like to build a bridge between Gaza and the AoSHQ. Or, maybe, there's one already and I just hadn't heard.

Posted by: Matt Ygelsias at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (LISuA)

13 10 David Mamet's Oleanna. Is that the one with William Macy as the professor accused by some female student?
Posted by: dantesed at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (88xKn)

Yes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:43 PM (St6BJ)

14 >>> giving each and every student the ability to claim Grievous Harm in nearly any circumstance, after any affront, and a teacher's formal ability to respond to these claims is limited at best.

That was in a William H. Macy movie years ago.

Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 01:44 PM (3ZtZW)

15 Dr. Frankenstein, meet your creations!

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2015 01:44 PM (cHuNI)

16
Shorter Ace:

"It's alive. IT'S ALIVE!!!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:44 PM (St6BJ)

17 you can read the excerpt at the Ace of Spades warm-up act.

I thought I was your go-to girl!

Posted by: The SideBar Muse at June 03, 2015 01:44 PM (rwI+c)

18
If it were only this guy who was terrified: Slavoj Zizek

Remember him? A rich commie prof who admires, Robespierre, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (iQIUe)

19 There is a different vibe...of more violence than was ever seen in the "peaceful" riots of the sixties (remember the famous photo of the daisy in the police rifle).
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Just punch a liberal douchebag in the nose and watch for the blood, sweat and tears.

Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (VndSC)

20 I'm filing a Title IX complaint against this professor. He implies I should have left my mattress in my dorm and that microaggression triggers me.

Posted by: Emma Sulkowicz at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (LISuA)

21 He was a pussy throughout the article. He'd get right up to the point where he would name the problem and then chickened out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

22 Ace sez:

"I don't like linking Vox, but this is worth reading, sort of, as it's, perhaps, a sign of the times. Here's the link. ...I say it's sort of worth reading because the writer is such a leftist coward. The entire piece is framed around the argument that this New Reign of Terror is bad chiefly because it limits the potential for leftist political victories. "

Actually, Ace, I think you're underplaying the problems here.

I believe this is a trolling article. They lure people like us in with the headline we WANT to see -- "My Liberal Students Terrify Me" -- but when I read the article earlier this morning, it was actually only peripherally about that topic, and was more of a way to stomp leftist orthodoxy into our brains.

My 2 cents at least.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (jBuUi)

23 which go right up your dickhole to lay their Eggs of Miserable Ignorance in your brain

Great, now I won't be able to sleep tonight.

Thanks ace.

Posted by: EC at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (cJ1t+)

24 21 He was a pussy throughout the article. He'd get right up to the point where he would name the problem and then chickened out.
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...the story of Obama

Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2015 01:46 PM (VndSC)

25 >>> Just punch a liberal douchebag in the nose and watch for the blood, sweat and tears.

Think that's how the movie ended....

Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 01:46 PM (3ZtZW)

26 23 Posted by: EC at June 03, 2015 01:45 PM (cJ1t+)

Even more terrifying than the Japanese pee-nee pusher of WW2 vintage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:46 PM (St6BJ)

27 Sounds like somebody is just begging for a trip to the Ministry of Love.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2015 01:47 PM (g1DWB)

28 A little bit of colorful detail would have improved this story markedly. It needn't be "true", for, after all, what is truth? I find it just needs to grab the readers attention.

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at June 03, 2015 01:47 PM (LISuA)

29 "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males."

So white males are the bastion of reasoned thought without any emotion.

*looks around the HQ*

Can't say where they ever got that idea.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - DIY Bunker Kits for AtC's Candidacy at The Outrage Outlet! at June 03, 2015 01:47 PM (hLRSq)

30 "If you don't want to pick up Yglesias Cooties, which go right up your dickhole to lay their Eggs of Miserable Ignorance in your brain..."

Top 10 worthy

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 03, 2015 01:47 PM (UhRGU)

31 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 01:47 PM (kff5f)

32 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (kff5f)

33
I don't think the prof was terrified of his students more than he was his colleagues and deans.

Tenure in some instances is revocable. I.e., being not of the body.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (St6BJ)

34 Fcuking poofters create this reality.
Then they are afraid of the monsters which inhabit it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (VPLuQ)

35 Remarkably, I wrote similarly in a burst of explosively expressed sanctimony!

Posted by: Scott E. Weinberg at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (LISuA)

36 I started to read that prof's essay but TL;DR.
I say we just drag him out into the street and take him to the guillotine. I hate those Leftist bastards.

Posted by: Daybrother can be hip and ironic at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (TpgaN)

37 Mikey NTH:

"He was a pussy throughout the article."

Haven't read the article yet, but I'll agree he's a pussy just based on the title. None of my students terrify me.

This reminds me of the line about why animosities run so high in academia: Because the stakes are so low.

Posted by: JPS at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (0k/27)

38 I await the inevitable counter-reaction by Stalin, Napoleon, TBD. Whoever it is, I will be fed.

Posted by: The Wall at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (GMG6W)

39 Nine years? He's been teaching nine years and only now is he noticing a sea change?

This has been going on for a bit longer than nine years.

Posted by: @JohnTant at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (PFy0L)

40 Which is why I keep saying:

There is no such thing as homosexual marriage, they aren't married and never will be.
He is not his husband.
She is not her wife.

We have devolved to where the teenager--who used to be treated as (young) adults but are now "children"--is the dominate form of argument: I WILL HAVE MY FUCKIN' WAY DAD OR I WILL SCREAM AND SHOUT UNTIL I GET IT!!!!

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (ZvKdv)

41 their desire to democratize complex fields of study by making them as digestible as a TGIF sitcom, has led to adoption of a totalizing, simplistic, unworkable, and ultimately stifling conception of social justice.

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That's baked in the cake, idiot.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (XUKZU)

42 Inquiry must investigate things outside the self -- otherwise it's just therapy.

I like this formulation.

Posted by: The SideBar Muse at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (rwI+c)

43 The T-rex arms of every feeling in my head want to rip this professor apart.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (Moh0M)

44 38 I await the inevitable counter-reaction by Stalin, Napoleon, TBD. Whoever it is, I will be fed.
Posted by: The Wall at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (GMG6W)

I have a bigger appetite

Posted by: Mass Graves at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (St6BJ)

45 " ...politics of personal testimony, in which the feelings of individuals
are the primary or even exclusive means through which social issues are
understood and discussed."

Nice way to describe it.

And yes, it really is the feminization (in the worst sense of the word) of the academy, from facts and ideas ---> to emotions and personal experience.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (CULCA)

46 If you don't want to pick up Yglesias Cooties, which go right up your dickhole to lay their Eggs of Miserable Ignorance in your brain...

----

**sniff**

**wipe tear from eye**

Pure poetry Ace.... Three sentences in. Bravo....

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (8XRCm)

47 >>>> don't want to pick up Yglesias Cooties, which go right up your dickhole to lay their Eggs of Miserable Ignorance in your brain..."

" Don't let this happen to you! "
- Caitlynn Jenner

Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (3ZtZW)

48 Why do I suspect that Ed Schlosser only cares about this now because other fellow travelers are finally being targeted?

Why do I suspect that, when FIRE was showing up on campus and saying "Hey, speech codes stifle free speech and make it harder for colleges to do what they're supposed to do," he was calling them Right Wing Extremists?

Why do I suspect that, when the local chapter of Right to Life tried to have a rally/demonstration, he was just happy as a pig in muck when the Priest of Moloch clutched their pearls and said it would be too traumatizing (no I know of no specific incident, but it happens frequently enough)?

In short: F*ck that guy. If the modern university system were to fail overnight, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (kff5f)

49 "If only Comrade Stalin knew!"

-The last words of many Leftists

Posted by: Harpo at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (oVJmc)

50 To that lib perfessor: FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (dwk+k)

51 48 In short: F*ck that guy. If the modern university system were to fail overnight, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (kff5f)

Inshalla.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (St6BJ)

52 Nice movie review Ace. When does it start showing at theaters?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 03, 2015 01:51 PM (DQZLr)

53 Vox is that site that the fellow Matt Yglesias writes for IIRC. He wears those colorful flamboyant suits with those stupid fucking hipster glasses. He's got one creepy I too. I've read some of his articles. He's the type that doesn't realize how stupid he really is. No idea.

Posted by: Arson Wells at June 03, 2015 01:52 PM (UnJ7w)

54 The most maddening thing about leftism is none of it is new. Well some of the causes may be new but the underlying philosophy of totalitarianism and otherizing has been around forever. And it always ends the same damn way.

You'd think a couple of them would have noticed this by now. They keep telling us they are the smart ones after all.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2015 01:52 PM (g1DWB)

55 Why would anyone fear students? Well, anyone truly and completely committed to revolutionary ideals that is.

Posted by: Zombie Mao at June 03, 2015 01:52 PM (LISuA)

56 When I criticize education a common response is that it is not the teachers' fault, look at society as a whole and families in particular and how far they have fallen. How can a teacher fix that? I both admit that it is true but I give the teachers absolutely no excuse because they are always behind every bad idea that comes down the pike hastening the d4estruction of society and the family. This is a perfect example.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 01:53 PM (XUKZU)

57 48 Why do I suspect that Ed Schlosser only cares about this now because other fellow travelers are finally being targeted?

Why do I suspect that, when FIRE was showing up on campus and saying "Hey, speech codes stifle free speech and make it harder for colleges to do what they're supposed to do," he was calling them Right Wing Extremists?

Why do I suspect that, when the local chapter of Right to Life tried to have a rally/demonstration, he was just happy as a pig in muck when the Priest of Moloch clutched their pearls and said it would be too traumatizing (no I know of no specific incident, but it happens frequently enough)?

In short: F*ck that guy. If the modern university system were to fail overnight, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet

I agree 100%

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (jBuUi)

58 You can't have a Glorious Cultural Revolution or a Great Leap Forward without breaking a few eggs.

Posted by: Stuff Abraham Lincoln Said, Vol IV at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (rwI+c)

59 I have a bigger appetite
Posted by: Mass Graves at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (St6BJ)

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Somebody needs to remind the Perfessor that Lenin, Stalin, Hitler (yes... he was Socialist), Pol Pot, Mao and Castro ALL did away the intelligentsia WAAAAY before they got around to liquidating the yokel provincials.

You SHOULD be afraid ..... fucktard.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (8XRCm)

60 I love how this perfesser moans about how things have turned out while trying to distance himself from any culpability.

Yeah, it's a complete mystery how these special social justice snowflakes got this way. It has nothing to do with the education they've received K-12+. It has nothing to do with the marxist utopias on the modern college campus.

These idiots spent decades repackaging marxism (for the umpteenth time) in terms of "privilege" and "structures of oppression" and "social construct of gender/sex/whatever". They even got their own departments (X Studies) and degrees.

But it's a mystery how things turned out this way.

They just thought they'd never be hauled up to the guillotine.

Posted by: gwelf at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (TJ8HB)

61 Leftists are nothing more than authoritarian assholes. The same "rebellious" activists from the 60's rebelling against authority and "The Man" are now in charge and are the biggest authoritarian assholes you could ever imagine.
Our only mistake back in the 60's was in not crushing these budding totalitarians.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (jhaLN)

62 End times. Caught us napping, they did.

Posted by: Eromero at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (go5uR)

63 I have a bigger appetite

Posted by: Mass Graves at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (St6BJ)

Fag.

Posted by: Zyklon B at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (Zu3d9)

64 when they came for the right wing wackos I said nothing...

Posted by: Ed Sclosser at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (9QUPT)

65 And thus Feelings Get Butthurt.

Posted by: Things Lincoln Would Say at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (DL2i+)

66 63 I have a bigger appetite

Posted by: Mass Graves at June 03, 2015 01:50 PM (St6BJ)

Fag.
Posted by: Zyklon B at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (Zu3d9)

You had to go there, didn't you?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (St6BJ)

67 I read it as "Crying like little bitches..."

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (AC0lD)

68 Shorter: everyone is a victim and you can't claim otherwise under penalty of death.

Posted by: Reason at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (XX9+E)

69 33
I don't think the prof was terrified of his students more than he was his colleagues and deans.

Tenure in some instances is revocable. I.e., being not of the body.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:48 PM (St6BJ)

More adjuncts, less tenured faculty. Adjuncts frequently have year-to-year contracts and can be dumped at the end of the school year, frequently with insufficient notice to line something else up. That's a powerful lever to have.

Meanwhile, let the ones with tenure retire and don't replace them and the university becomes an intellectual plantation.

Posted by: joncelli, in a dark mood at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

70 Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Asshole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2015 01:56 PM (8ZskC)

71 The Terror of our age - the youth of our country are brownshirt nutjobs trained by the worst of us (teachers) to be stridently anti-white and anti-male, all out of a cynical desire of Teachers' unions to make good little liberals to vote them pay increases.

Professors fear offense, even as other professors openly call for discrimination against white males, angrily declaring they are not racists because white males are subhuman.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 03, 2015 01:56 PM (Tnmav)

72 The washing of brains continues.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 03, 2015 01:56 PM (3BFsQ)

73 Feelings, nothing more than feelings
Trying to forget my feelings of love
Teardrops rolling down on my face
Trying to forget my feelings of love

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 01:56 PM (XUKZU)

74 This emotion-based style of "argumentation" is, it is forbidden to say, chiefly a female one (a dopey, girlish female one, not a womanly one), and one that has been lately adopted by the more female-skewing girlboys who are easily dominated by group will.

Well yes, and no. Seriously read After Virtue Ace. Macintyre lays out how we arrived at this state or moral discourse and where it ends.

Hint: Rome, final days. Hell our Caesar plays golf with the world burns, and it appears Caligula is up next to lead.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 01:56 PM (U8W/7)

75 Didn't this liberal prof pen this same column - or one similar to it - a few months ago? Clearly s/he has not learned a lesson.

(I don't settle on a specific pronoun b/c, even though the professor goes under a male pseudonym, that could be b/c SHE wants to put more distance between herself and her opinions.)

I love how the incident this prof offers as their near brush with academic apartheid is when a (clearly) conservative student accused him/her of being "communistic." In other words, of preaching communism. The professor shudders to think what would have happened to him/her if that same complaint had been issued in today's climate of academic oppression.

The stupid professor proves his/her stupidity here, because I can tell you what would have happened: nothing. Absolutely nothing.

In fact, the professor would not have been the one to suffer any damage. The one who would have suffered is the student daring to speak up about how Fannie and Freddie subsidizing low income home buyers contributed to the 2008 crash. That student would have been hounded off campus, eviscerated in the student press, destroyed on social media, and ostracized from "polite" society.

The professor would have come out smelling like a fucking rose. And more likely than not, that professor would have SMILED as the bigoted, racist, anti-poor, elitist, privileged student was torn apart by the professor's fellow leftists. Because that's what leftists do when the Other is forced to succumb to the mob: they smile and laugh and sip their lattes as they glory in how much BETTER they are than the poor sod being kicked around like a soccer ball.

Does this professor think we're going to feel sympathy for him/her? Does this professor think s/he deserves anything but mockery? Throughout the column, s/he keeps talking about how s/he "respects" social justice, and how a person's identity (gender, race, class, what have you) SHOULD factor in to how their words are weighed. This just proves how tone deaf and, frankly, stupid the professor is. S/he thinks s/he knows what the problem is, but refuses to admit that S/HE IS THE PROBLEM. By ennobling behaviors that are anti-thetical to the free exercise of academic pursuits s/he claims to champion, the stupid professor leaves the door wide open for these modern censors of the Millennial era to run rampant over the very academic freedoms she bemoans the loss of.

Well, fuck off, prof. If you don't have the cajones to stand up to your ickle students and tell them to grow a pair, then I don't have much time for you. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Your column only serves to illustrate the suffocating nature of college campuses today, without offering anything to rectify that atmosphere. In that respect, the professor's essay is like a dead frog: excellent for close examination of the anatomy of the problem, but then just so much garbage.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)

76 Thus the rise of anxiety and depression drugs for young people in their 20s. Not to mention the grade school kids who are now hounded to suicide by a society that insists they choose what sex they really are, and if they really "love" boys or girls.

Sick, sick, US society. We adults have FAILED to protect them from the commie vampires in our schools.

Posted by: pam at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (EAZ7y)

77 59 Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 01:54 PM (8XRCm)

THIS.

They were first to go because the scales fell from their eyes almost to the moment when they succeeded in empowering any of the fiends you mentioned. The disillusioned were the most dangerous to the regime.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (St6BJ)

78 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (St6BJ)

You have met me. Why does this surprise you?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (Zu3d9)

79 Hello, Rethugs.
Will you please use your crazyhate and firearms to protect me from my students?

Posted by: Ed Schlosser at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (N2PoX)

80 Hey, look. Another revolution eating its own. Le boo fricking hoo.

Posted by: Louis XIV's Ghost at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (w4say)

81 Warning to Ace: I am stealing "limited intelligence and ravenous insecurities". Just so you know. Thanks.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (oDCMR)

82 "I'm a professor at a midsize state school. I have been teaching college classes for nine years now...

Things have changed since I started teaching. The vibe is different. I wish there were a less blunt way to put this, but my students sometimes scare me -- particularly the liberal ones."

Nine Years.

HOPE AND CHANGE BABY!!!

We have fundamentally transformed America!

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2015 01:58 PM (u/eTl)

83 +100 rant, MWR.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 03, 2015 01:58 PM (rwI+c)

84 80 Hey, look. Another revolution eating its own. Le boo fricking hoo.
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Its funny how that happens again and again and again...

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 01:58 PM (oDCMR)

85 I guess the important question is are the professors now finding the liberal chicks less bangable?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 03, 2015 01:58 PM (AC0lD)

86 "A loose Liquidy shit"

Damn it...

Posted by: River Guide at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (RJMhd)

87 Warning to Ace: I am stealing "limited intelligence and ravenous insecurities". Just so you know. Thanks.

I think Ace was talking about Moo Moo there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (8ZskC)

88 78 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (St6BJ)

You have met me. Why does this surprise you?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (Zu3d9)

Okay. You get a pass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (St6BJ)

89 I feel that pi should be 3.00 because that would make everything easier.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (XUKZU)

90 Those that refuse to learn from history end up against the wall.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (rwI+c)

91 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)

What she said!

[Damn! Nicely done]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (Zu3d9)

92 >>In short: F*ck that guy. If the modern university system were to fail overnight, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Agreed.

However, these are the types of people that need to have a paradigm shift to fight it. Not like the campus Republicans are going to change the culture on their own.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 01:59 PM (CULCA)

93 85 I guess the important question is are the professors now finding the liberal chicks less bangable?
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They are all into boys these days. Guaranteed Job Security for evah!

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 02:00 PM (oDCMR)

94 I'll guarantee this perfesser isn't about ending the Inquisition, it's about having a high-sign so good leftists don't get eaten by it.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 03, 2015 02:00 PM (oVJmc)

95 Would someone tell Ace to quit buying the Amtrak sammiches?

Posted by: River Guide at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (RJMhd)

96 The maples called. They said my schadenboner's just too lofty, and it grabs up all the light.

Hey, Professor. YOU made this. YOU programmed them. YOU indoctrinated them.

And you're surprised they're putting YOU up against the wall now?

Apparently, you're not a history professor. Start with Mao's Red Guard. Hint: they were slaughtered like sheep when they were no longer useful.

Posted by: Citizen X at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (7ObY1)

97 The idea of the conservative civil disobedience defense fund must happen.

They have more than given us the tools to destroy them if we would but take them in hand.

And they know it--that's what he is so scared of, that's what he really fears.

NAACD--National Association of Americans for Civil Disobedience.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (ZvKdv)

98 (I don't settle on a specific pronoun b/c, even though the professor goes under a male pseudonym, that could be b/c SHE wants to put more distance between herself and her opinions.)

Nice rant, MWR, but your assumption that there are only two possible genders triggers me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (8ZskC)

99 Yup. This. All of this.

It is absolutely imperative in any kind of intellectual discussion or inquiry to preserve some space between ego/emotion/self and the idea being advanced. Debate must be had about external claims, not the internal, intrinsic worthiness of a being.

*FLAILS AT THIS*

Admittedly, I get Butthurt when people attack my ideas because I do take it as somewhat of an attack on my self as my sense of self is tied, rather strongly, into the notion that I can be an objective thinker. Of course, I also know that such a reaction is completely wrong and that when I have that reaction, it's time to go back and reevaluate the substance of what is being countered because if I'm emotionally lashing out at the criticism that probably means that the point is intellectually weak.

I don't comprehend this notion to be defined by weakness. I'm a Victim wah wah wah wah wah. There's no pride in that. Mind you, there's no shame in being an actual victim of actual negative events. But there is decidedly no pride in being one either. Doing so means that you are letting others define you and others constrain you and others determine the value of your life.

No. Just. No.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (mf5HN)

100 If this twit bothered to notice (or care), he'd know that conservatives have been getting this treatment in our colleges for a hell of a lot longer than nine years.

But it's only when academia liberals ran out of conservatives to demonize and then turned on themselves that he's starting to complain.

So yeah, fuck him. Sideways.

Posted by: @JohnTant at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (eytER)

101 Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges? I can't imagine the ghetto community college or Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.

Posted by: Old Hob at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (FFIoe)

102 39
Nine years? He's been teaching nine years and only now is he noticing a sea change?

This has been going on for a bit longer than nine years.

Posted by: @JohnTant at June 03, 2015 01:49 PM (PFy0L)

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Oh, I'd be surprised if this professor didn't enjoy these same tactics being used against those he didn't like. He just never thought they would be turned back on him.
It's like all the SJW's complaining that Jenner's transition in the media is horribly cisnormative and re-inforces gender stereotypes (they don't mind he's a transexual, they'd just prefer he be a frumpy lesbian rather than a glam babe). The left is moving so fast now that what was cutting edge yesterday - the Vagina Monologues - is now part of the patriarchal oppression.

Posted by: gwelf at June 03, 2015 02:02 PM (+7Usq)

103
So Dr. Forbin's Colossus has come home to roost.

How's it taste, tiger?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:02 PM (St6BJ)

104 >>Apparently, you're not a history professor. Start with Mao's Red Guard. Hint: they were slaughtered like sheep when they were no longer useful.

You could go back a hell of a lot further than that. Caesar's wife comes to mind.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2015 02:02 PM (g1DWB)

105 I have this hunch ... just a notion, really ... that I'll be writing a check to a Tech School rather than a University for both of my kids.

Call me crazy ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (wedPR)

106 75
...

I love how the incident this prof offers as their near brush with academic apartheid is when a (clearly) conservative student accused him/her of being "communistic." In other words, of preaching communism. The professor shudders to think what would have happened to him/her if that same complaint had been issued in today's climate of academic oppression.

The stupid professor proves his/her stupidity here, because I can tell you what would have happened: nothing. Absolutely nothing.
...

Well, fuck off, prof. If you don't have the cajones to stand up to your ickle students and tell them to grow a pair, then I don't have much time for you. You are part of the problem, not the solution.

...

MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit

Bravo! (Throws roses on stage) Bravissimo!

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (jBuUi)

107 101 Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges? I can't imagine the ghetto community college or Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.
Posted by: Old Hob at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (FFIoe)

Virtually every single one. From community college all the way to the Ivy Leagues. Every. Single. Campus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (St6BJ)

108 Admittedly, I get Butthurt when people attack my ideas because I do take it as somewhat of an attack on my self as my sense of self is tied, rather strongly, into the notion that I can be an objective thinker.

Ah. Your problem is that you have ideas.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (8ZskC)

109 I can't believe this shitweasel came right out and said one of the goals of higher education was to make students change their beliefs. That is indoctrination, not education. They should be teaching critical thinking skills.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (WbJ4p)

110 what makes it fun right now is that there is no ruling authority to decide the pecking order among women, blacks, LGBTPDQ, differently-abled, etc.

If these lunatics really take over, some of us might be lucky enough to live to see the purges. Won't be pretty but it'll be funny (at least till they catch you laughing at the wrong moment.)

Posted by: mallfly at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (qSIlh)

111 I've long given up on academia and haven't been concerned about the Left's control of these institutions for sometime. What I am concerned about is the slow destruction of our military from covert and overt actions by the Left. That is where we should be focusing our efforts in this war with the Left.

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (XX9+E)

112 I heard a story on the news this morning about a teacher, in Florida I think, who used a cell phone interrupter in class to stop "students" from playing with their phones while he was trying to teach. He was severely reprimanded and, I guess it is a crime to use those but far be it from anyone to address the issue of the iIdiots disrespecting him and refusing their duty to learn.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (XUKZU)

113 Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges?

----

Having just got two thru college..

Pretty much every college.... but some more than others.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (8XRCm)

114 101 Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges? I can't imagine the ghetto community college or Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.
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A fish rots from the head down. Every academic wishes to imitate their betters. So, yeah, a lot of rotten fish throughout the system. They've been marinating in their filth undisturbed for 30 or 40 years.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (oDCMR)

115 >>Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)

Righteous rant, MWR!
Bravo!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (k2QA3)

116 "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males."

***

That is hilariously funny because it is almost exactly what Obama said when he was explaining his nomination of that "wise latina" Sonia Sotomayor to the U.S. Supreme Court:

". . . we don't need some justice who can analyze the evidence and reason their way to a just conclusion based on the law and the facts. No, we need somebody who understands the emotions and feelings of the litigants; somebody who has been there herself; somebody who can empathize! somebody who is not a white male. Hence, the Wise Latina!" (or words to that effect, anyway).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (o8Gus)

117 >>> They have more than given us the tools to destroy them if we would but take them in hand.

Disagree. TEA Party was all bout that and look what happened. We can make a space for ourselves, like they'd done, but we haven't laid much groundwork yet.

Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (3ZtZW)

118 Hot Air. Vox. Same diff.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2015 02:05 PM (kivUY)

119 >>Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges? I can't imagine the ghetto community college or Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.

Think again. The professor in this article teaches at a mid-sized state school.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2015 02:05 PM (g1DWB)

120 It rained (drizzled) in LA. Not predicted of course. We have the worse weather predictions.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2015 02:06 PM (iQIUe)

121 Posted by: joncelli, in a dark mood at June 03, 2015 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

I've given up.

We're to the point where I'm afraid to express a Catholic Opinion at the Catholic University I attend.

Never mind the leash I'm on at the Secular Temple to SCIENCE! Down the road.

"Expect to be fired a lot" is advice I've gotten before.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:07 PM (U8W/7)

122 Nice rant, MWR, but your assumption that there are only two possible genders triggers me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2015 02:01 PM (8ZskC)

You make a cromulent point. I get 50 lashes with a wet noodle.
(get your heads out of the gutter, Morons.

)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (4df7R)

123 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)

This is more-or-less what I said earlier, only more longer and more better-er.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (kff5f)

124 "Things have changed since I started teaching. The vibe is different. I
wish there were a less blunt way to put this, but my students sometimes
scare me -- particularly the liberal ones."

You know, I can relate to this. Anybody got some tylenol? My head's killin' me!

Posted by: Headless Maximilien Robespierre at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (sCHw2)

125 117 >>> They have more than given us the tools to destroy them if we would but take them in hand.

Disagree. TEA Party was all bout that and look what happened. We can make a space for ourselves, like they'd done, but we haven't laid much groundwork yet.
Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 02:04 PM (3ZtZW)

A movement needs a leader. And a viable political party would help too. We have neither. Yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (St6BJ)

126 We all just need to hold our noses and back a good candidate for President. You know, like maybe Jeb. He'll fix this.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (wedPR)

127 I'm glad I'm on the back nine of life. These @$$h0l3$ ruined a once great country, and for no other reason except to stroke their massive egos. They'll soon regret every single butthurting lament they've ever uttered.

Posted by: hadoop at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (2X7pN)

128
Officer Matthew Kenny exonerated in shooting of Tony Robinson

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2015 02:09 PM (iQIUe)

129 126 We all just need to hold our noses and back a good candidate for President. You know, like maybe Jeb. He'll fix this.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (wedPR)

More like clamp open my dick hole and let Jeb-cooties crawl in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:09 PM (St6BJ)

130 You're welcome.

Posted by: Mr. Rogers at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (0HooB)

131 Does this stuff happen at every college or just Ivy League spoiled kid colleges? I can't imagine the ghetto community college or Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.

Most Community/Jr. Colleges are not yet infected. There may be a few others that are safe as well. But not a whole lot, I'm thinking.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (kff5f)

132 Lindsey Graham could clean these stables in an instant. And do it while wearing loafers and Bermuda shorts. Cuz he's Lindsey and an Air Force Colonel.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (oDCMR)

133 >>>> A movement needs a leader.

Leaderless movement was considered an advantage for the TEA Party. Jury is still out, IMHO.

Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (3ZtZW)

134 And then someone whose tweet was in the article had a hysterical shit fit and started claiming that using her tweet without her permission and without paying her is rape culture and is giving her PTSD.

No, really.

https://twitter.com/verumserum

He quotes her a couple times and you can click on her name and read teh crazy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (0xTsz)

135 TEA Party
----
A movement needs a leader. And a viable political party would help too. We have neither. Yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (St6BJ)
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A viable program might help too. /

Posted by: RioBravo at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (NUqwG)

136 103
So Dr. Forbin's Colossus has come home to roost.

How's it taste, tiger?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
----------------------

I still fondly remember that movie.

Posted by: Roy at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (VndSC)

137 I'm glad I'm on the back nine of life. These @$$h0l3$ ruined a once great country, and for no other reason except to stroke their massive egos. They'll soon regret every single butthurting lament they've ever uttered.
Posted by: hadoop at June 03, 2015 02:08 PM (2X7pN)

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Not so sure. If we're going to be crash and burn.... sooner is better than later... I dont want to be living under Thunderdome rules when Im in my seventies.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

138 Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (0xTsz)

But I think those crazy cooties might be closely related to Yglessias cooties IYKWIM.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:11 PM (kff5f)

139 "Terror is virtue, Robespierre said."

How'd that work out for Robespierre?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:11 PM (oKE6c)

140 133 >>>> A movement needs a leader.

Leaderless movement was considered an advantage for the TEA Party. Jury is still out, IMHO.
Posted by: Bigby's Jedi Mind Trick Wave at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (3ZtZW)

The rest of my comment applies. An actual political party that is conservative up and down, inside and out is what is needed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:11 PM (St6BJ)

141 FYI - Iowahawk having fun at Harf's expense over on the Twittahhh

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (7RXcs)

142 Some pig shot Baldrick!?!!?? And got away with it?!!?
Bastard!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (kivUY)

143 Professor, the last thing any real Communist wants around is somebody who makes him feel stupid. A word to the wise.

Posted by: An Observation at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (K0xme)

144 I wish there were a less blunt way to put this, but my students sometimes scare me -- particularly the liberal ones.

You ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Posted by: The Red Guards at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (oKE6c)

145 JJ ... that's kinda' plagiarism. I knew you people were tight assed shapeshifters, but I had no idea you were copycats too.

Oy vey.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (wedPR)

146 >> Podunk farm state college I once went to are into this stuff.

Dude says "I'm a professor at a midsize state school"

Somebody needs to find and list the schools that are least crazy.

I can think of 2 but hope there are more.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (0xTsz)

147 I thought it was OWS that didn't have a leader? Well, until the proles found out that meetings were being held at WS bank lobbies...

Posted by: hadoop at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (2X7pN)

148 143 Professor, the last thing any real Communist wants around is somebody who makes him feel stupid. A word to the wise.
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Perfect.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (oDCMR)

149 If we're going to be crash and
burn.... sooner is better than later... I dont
want to be living under Thunderdome rules
when Im in my seventies.

Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (dwk+k)

150 145 JJ ... that's kinda' plagiarism. I knew you people were tight assed shapeshifters, but I had no idea you were copycats too.

Oy vey.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:12 PM (wedPR)

What are you referring to?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (St6BJ)

151 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R

On the other hand, I'm tired of being fired for doing my job.

So yes, the thought of more firing because I did my job again (told my students to STFU and try to learn something) is a motivation by fear.

I do love how he portrayed the complaining student as an idiot though. I'm betting most of that is false. I'm guessing that what happened was the person noted about the FM twins given out loans to low income people (using the racism charges as a foothold to justify it more broadly) and eventually big loans to medium income people who couldn't afford it.

The professor wigs out, retrofits the memory to "racist" and away we go.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (U8W/7)

152
*points and laughs*

Posted by: here is the bed you made, sir at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (ZtFr+)

153 All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males.

... This applies to fields such a climate science as well.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (2vJ77)

154 "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due
process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to
emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of
straight white males."

But THEY're the rational ones, 'member?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (oVJmc)

155 "In early 2009, I was an adjunct, teaching a freshman-level writing
course at a community college. Discussing infographics and data
visualization, we watched a flash animation describing how Wall Street's
recklessness had destroyed the economy."

Whaaaaaa? You used OWS-style propaganda video in a writing class, followed by a discussion of Fannie and Freddie Mac's role - again: what does this have to do with writing and infographics?

Dude, time to lay in the bed you made.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (k2QA3)

156 I luv the way this perfesser frames his argument:

1. We're not socialist enough.

2. Points to another socialist perfesser who also magically says, "We're not socialist enough."

3. I wish I was a pre-adolescent girl so I could better understand the children in my daycare, for which I'm well paid.

4. Anyone who disagrees with me is a poopyhead.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (0HooB)

157 The East is red

The adjuncts are toast

Posted by: joncelli, in a dark mood at June 03, 2015 02:14 PM (RD7QR)

158 In The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn wrote about the automatic response of anyonethe facists come for, 'Who, me?'. How about we just start mocking these yokels when they cry out in surprise that the ravenous beast turned on them, 'Yes, you!'. There's a 50/50 chance these 'intellectuals' actually get the reference.

Posted by: Joe at June 03, 2015 02:14 PM (7pOq5)

159 If we're going to be crash and
burn.... sooner is better than later... I dont
want to be living under Thunderdome rules
when Im in my seventies.

I want *some* hope that my grandkids will survive to see whatever civilization rises from the ashes.

Even if the full collapse occurred tonight, I don't think there's any hope of seeing that for myself or my children.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:14 PM (kff5f)

160 Virtually every single one. From community college all the way to the Ivy Leagues. Every. Single. Campus.
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Remember: Ward Churchill was at a little shithole community college IIRC.

All them little shits aspire to be big shits at the big shithole colleges and universities.

So they have to embrace and love the shit-thoughts of the big shits to show they would be a perfect fit at Shithole U.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 03, 2015 02:14 PM (ZvKdv)

161 134
And then someone whose tweet was in the article had a hysterical shit
fit and started claiming that using her tweet without her permission and
without paying her is rape culture and is giving her PTSD.

No, really.

https://twitter.com/verumserum

He quotes her a couple times and you can click on her name and read teh crazy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:10 PM (0xTsz)

Yep. She's a lunatic leftwing racialist little snowflake. And the professor isn't even very strident in his/her analysis! S/he goes to great pains to say, "Kelly is intelligent. Her voice is important. She realizes, correctly, that evolutionary psychology is flawed, and that science has often been misused to legitimize racist and sexist beliefs. But why draw that out to the extreme of rejecting scientific inquiry as a whole? Can't we see how it's dangerous to reject centuries of established thought so blithely?"

The fact that Kelly:

A) is perfectly happy to "reject centuries of established thought so blithely"; and
B) is the kind of shrieking harpy who would complain about this eggshell treatment as equivalent to rape
leads me to question the professor's assertion that Kelly is intelligent or that her voice is worth hearing.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (4df7R)

162 Social Justice is just a construct. A way to capitalize on the excesses of the overly political 21st Century Civil Rights movement. Illegal alien? Now you are an undocumented American and should have the vote and free healthcare. Woman that wants to be a Ranger? Lower the standards. Female wants to pitch in the Majors? Force the employment. Want a poly gay/bestiality marriage? Force the courts. Can't run a free market economy? Print money and actually give it to the big banks. Too many poor people now? Blame the opposition party.
It is really getting hard to believe that there isn't a smoky backroom somewhere where some people come up with better ideas to destroy society. I mean I remember reading that Soviet soldiers dying on the battlefield in WW II cried for their mothers and for Papa Joe but are young American people so demented they can't figure some of the endgame here? Is there a point where the spiral stops or is collapse inevitable in a complex powerful culture?

Posted by: Daybrother is OK with SMOD at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (ehgJz)

163 What do Yglesias Cooties do to females (with or without vjays, I think is what I am asking)???!! Huh, Ace? You are a sexist misogynist, Ace. Or is it Yglesias Cooties that are sexist and misogynistic?

I am so confused.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (shFKH)

164 Officer Matthew Kenny exonerated in shooting of Tony Robinson

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Where was this? I like to put in an order for a new pair of kicks.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (XUKZU)

165 "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis --from due
process to scientific method -- are dismissed as being blind to
emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of
straight white males."

So basically this is an admission that reason is largely the province of straight white males? Wow.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (oKE6c)

166 The Tea Party would have gained traction if they hadn't allowed the SoCons to take over. That's when the MFM sensed their chance to destroy the movement.

Up till then, the MFM was befuddled, because there were a lot of independents and disaffected Dems joining the Tea Party.

Once the SoCons took over, the TP was toast.

And before flaming me, I have nothing against the SoCons. But the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party was not the place for them. They already have their own organizations. The TEA Party was an economic movement, not a social movement. The SoCons scared off the Indies and Dems, and the MFM pounced. How'd that work out for the TEA Party?

Posted by: Citizen X at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (7ObY1)

167 One problem with this "argument" from "Narrative" and "emotion" is that there is absolutely no separation between the idea and the person announcing it. Ergo, any disputation of the idea is taken -- necessarily, and accurately -- as a denigration of the value of the person advancing it.

I don't think this can be emphasized enough. This is the congealed, metastasized outcome of post-modernism. This is the awful, practical outcome of teaching students for decades that meta-narratives are false, that there is no truth except your own.

It took joining up with the overbearing nanny ideology of modern progressivism for this to reach critical mass, but here we are.

Posted by: Hal at June 03, 2015 02:16 PM (hmPdt)

168 This is about dialectic vs. rhetoric. Socrates vs. the sophists. Socrates held that truth is the highest value and should be used to guide one's life.

Posted by: Titanium at June 03, 2015 02:16 PM (JLKJJ)

169 And yet I bet when this prof was a student, he loved Speaking Truth to Power and challenging The Man.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 03, 2015 02:16 PM (9Y7bY)

170 Uptwinkles

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 03, 2015 02:16 PM (JO9+V)

171 Well ... The commonly known proclivity of your Chosen People to accrue large amounts of wealth via frugality ... as well as your penchant for morphing into other various physical forms.

Oh ... You mean the plagiarism thing !!! That was just a lame shot referencing your dick hole comment, which seemed to be a play on Ace's cootie line.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2015 02:17 PM (wedPR)

172 leads me to question the professor's assertion that Kelly is intelligent or that her voice is worth hearing.

That's a funny way to spell "reject."

And this is the part where tsrblke or I say, "Chesterton's Fence, motherf*cker, do you speak it?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:17 PM (kff5f)

173 And what is Truth?

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at June 03, 2015 02:18 PM (evdj2)

174 166 Posted by: Citizen X at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (7ObY1)

I disagree with the term "social issues." They are moral issues, and they are the cornerstone of the republic. Conservatism is about all of these issues combined. Best not to marginalize any of them and think in those terms.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:18 PM (St6BJ)

175 College professors who became frightened of their students are one of the prime strata of the Killing Fields.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 03, 2015 02:18 PM (oVJmc)

176 Posted by: Daybrother is OK with SMOD

I heard Levin make a good point. Every thing we want is an issue. If we want to cut back on abortion, that's an issue. If we want to deprive pre-citizens of driver's licenses, that's an issue. Everything the left wants is a civil right. Ghey marriage? Civil right. Open borders? Civil right. Abortion? Civil right.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 02:18 PM (XUKZU)

177 i love that this is all a kind of Slow Motion Cultural Revolution.

And, of course, who generally gets eaten first?

The enablers of said revolution becuz they just aren't radical enough.

Here's a hint, you progtard dickweeds,

you will never be radical enough.

You have position and possessions and family and responsibilities.

You cannot possibly match the angry radicalism of the middle-class, second-rater, supported by Daddy's money with zero experience of the world.

If this "revolution" weren't being run by panicky, little neurotic mattress girls and pajama boys-

you would already be hanging from the lampposts outside your offices.

If this "revolution" weren't being stage managed by Democrat pols to loot the weak-minded of their future earnings-

it would dry up tomorrow.

Consider yourself lucky that these revolutionaries are as lame and feckless and as ineffective as you are.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 03, 2015 02:19 PM (0cMkb)

178 117
>>> They have more than given us the tools to destroy them if we would but take them in hand.

Disagree. TEA Party was all bout that and look what happened. We can
make a space for ourselves, like they'd done, but we haven't laid much
groundwork yet
=======
TEA party was an army in the field they could attack with the conventional powers they possess; we need rebels, renegades, insurgents and saboteurs.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 03, 2015 02:20 PM (ZvKdv)

179 The fucking metrosexual coward at Vox doesn't have a comment section.

Posted by: Fen at June 03, 2015 02:20 PM (zhb21)

180 163 What do Yglesias Cooties do to females (with or without vjays, I think is what I am asking)???!! Huh, Ace? You are a sexist misogynist, Ace. Or is it Yglesias Cooties that are sexist and misogynistic?

I am so confused.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 03, 2015 02:15 PM (shFKH)

Ummm....I'm guessing they go up your vajayjay hole?

Gawd....that is some nightmare shit right there.

Posted by: EC at June 03, 2015 02:20 PM (cJ1t+)

181 On the other hand, I'm tired of being fired for doing my job.

So yes, the thought of more firing because I did my job again (told
my students to STFU and try to learn something) is a motivation by fear.

Which is completely understandable. I don't want anyone to be fired for doing their job.

I would, however, like this idiot professor to wake up and realize that her beliefs and actions are a direct causal factor of the current campus climate. S/he is completely clueless and makes no indication of even remotely understanding the relationship between the kind of leftwing extremism she supports ("how Wall Street's recklessness destroyed the economy") and the leftwing extremism she fears.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 02:20 PM (4df7R)

182 Dear Professor Schlosser;

You Built That

Now the monster has turned on its creator. Karma is a bitch

Posted by: kbdabear at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (GrXXa)

183 The colleges have been lost for a long time now.

MWR has a point but it's decades late.

Ironically maybe the best thing that has happened is the devaluation of the college degree.

They might defeat themselves given enough time.

Although --it looks like a race between that and The United States extant.

Posted by: River Guide at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (RJMhd)

184 I teach high school seniors, and every year I warn them about the liberal professors that are waiting for them. I also told them that my teaching KIPLING'S the Gods of the Copybook Headings would get me fired at a lot of universities today. They are always shocked.

Posted by: jmel at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (cfFqn)

185 >>And then someone whose tweet was in the article had a hysterical shit

fit and started claiming that using her tweet without her permission and

without paying her is rape culture and is giving her PTSD.

FFS, I bet some Yazidi women her age would love to trade their rape experience for hers.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (k2QA3)

186 And what is Truth?

If you don't know what it is, Sparky, I could 'splain it to you.

But you still wouldn't understand.

BTW, shouldn't you and some other blind guy be in a ditch somewhere?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (0HooB)

187 "Then they are afraid of the monsters which inhabit it."

Create the conditions for chaos to erupt and then, when chaos does erupt, get scared and grasp about for strawmen to blame.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (LA7Cm)

188 It's Frahnk-N-Steen!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (JO9+V)

189 Thanks, Ace, for the gentle teen scholar post. Needed that laugh.

Posted by: flounder at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (ecDRv)

190 The fucking metrosexual coward at Vox doesn't have a comment section.

Given his track record for being wrong on just about everything he writes, why bother? He's mocked endlessly on twitter.

Posted by: hadoop at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (2X7pN)

191 176 Posted by: Daybrother is OK with SMOD

I heard Levin make a good point. Every thing we want is an issue. If we want to cut back on abortion, that's an issue. If we want to deprive pre-citizens of driver's licenses, that's an issue. Everything the left wants is a civil right. Ghey marriage? Civil right. Open borders? Civil right. Abortion? Civil right.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 02:18 PM (XUKZU)

THIS.

And it's why I do not dismiss the so-called "social conservatives." The pillar of the republic as founded is a Judeo-Christian ethic. Everything else that we cherish flows from this and it ought to be defended loudly and unshakably.

Otherwise, you will be marginalized or worse.

See: Christian bakery/photographer/pizzeria

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (St6BJ)

192 Thank you all for stating my point exactly.
I concur.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (8uhgy)

193 Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:13 PM (k2QA3)

I had to take a class at the law school as part of this program. Real elective law class, with the L2s. (We had a different curve but other than that, the same.)

In any case, we had to watch a video for it, a "patient decision aid" given to prostate patients during the discussion, I pointed out the obvious bias towards radiation treatment and noted this and said it was probably produced by a radiating machine maker (it was) teacher and students flipped out that I would critique it, basically shouted at me for a while.

I was the stunned.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (U8W/7)

194 >>I teach high school seniors, and every year I warn them about the
liberal professors that are waiting for them. I also told them that my
teaching KIPLING'S the Gods of the Copybook Headings would get me fired
at a lot of universities today. They are always shocked.

You rock!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:23 PM (k2QA3)

195 Dear Professor Schlosser;

You Built That

Now the monster has turned on its creator. Karma is a bitch
Posted by: kbdabear at June 03, 2015 02:21 PM (GrXXa)

*shoves lemon bars through USB port*

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

196 I'm thinking a Pansy Purge of the universities would be fun to watch. Identify a safe space and when it fills up shoot them. The mean IQ of every university would leap forward.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at June 03, 2015 02:25 PM (oDCMR)

197
In any case, we had to watch a video for it, a
"patient decision aid" given to prostate patients during the discussion,
I pointed out the obvious bias towards radiation treatment and noted
this and said it was probably produced by a radiating machine maker (it
was) teacher and students flipped out that I would critique it,
basically shouted at me for a while.

I was the stunned.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:22 PM (U8W/7)
Oh my gosh, you actually made a dispassionate, rational critique of a bit of radiation propaganda? How dare you think for yourself! How dare you not embrace the groupthink of the Hivemind! SHUN the unbeliever! SHUN!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 02:25 PM (4df7R)

198 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:17 PM (kff5f)

Yes....
Except that I can describe why evolutionary psych was built. And that fence is crooked and falling down, and needs to be removed anyway.

Aside for suffering from the obvious biases of the soft sciences, it's got a giant naturalistic fallacy problem.
Never an ought from an is.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:26 PM (U8W/7)

199 TEA party was an army in the field they could attack
with the conventional powers they possess; we need rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs,
pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men,
Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers,
hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers,
ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists. .

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 03, 2015 02:20 PM (ZvKdv)
FIFY!

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at June 03, 2015 02:26 PM (sCHw2)

200 There rape wolf! --->

Oh. Are we not playing a game?

Posted by: I-gor at June 03, 2015 02:26 PM (kivUY)

201 There is no discernible difference between progressivism and Borderline/Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Posted by: some random meathead - If you're not drinking, you're not paying attention. at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (92YAX)

202 >>I heard Levin make a good point. Every thing we want is an issue. If we want to cut back on abortion, that's an issue. If we want to deprive pre-citizens of driver's licenses, that's an issue. Everything the left wants is a civil right. Ghey marriage? Civil right. Open borders? Civil right. Abortion? Civil right.

All due respect to Levin but this isn't new. This was the plan behind Obamacare, healthcare as a civil right. And it wasn't some atmospheric condition, it was the plan.

If you read the book by Jan Schakowsky's crooked husband, Robert Creamer, which was sort of the blueprint for pushing Obamacare he states quite clearly that the first thing that needs to be done for any liberal want is to make it a civil right. Once you get that implanted in people's minds the next steps become a hell of a lot easier.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (g1DWB)

203 Ironically maybe the best thing that has happened is the devaluation of the college degree.
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That's and ugly mole on your ear. Shall we remove the ear?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (NUqwG)

204 Citizen X and McAdams should meet at Starbucks to flesh out their fantasy world in which "SoCons" took over the Tea Party (whatever that is/was). Especially the really cool fantasy parts about Dems and Indies being scared off the TP because of the SoCon stuff (whatever that was).

The 2010 and 2014 mid-terms just called. They're having an identity crisis, and are puzzled how they happened.

Because Clark County unions really don't explain NV electoral outcomes. And primaries with lousy/loony/entitled candidates don't produce weak nominees. It's some general, imaginary connection between the TP and "SoCons".

Oh - and the racism of the TP, clearly apprehended by so many Dems and Indies (this is actually true), that also was a result of "SoCons".

Posted by: rhomboid at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

205 Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:26 PM (U8W/7)

Wasn't defending Evolutionary Psych (which has two problems I can see right off hand).

I was defending the rest of the hard sciences which Little Miss Snowflake so blithely dismisses.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (kff5f)

206 >>Ummm....I'm guessing they go up your

Prance away shrieking, more likely.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:28 PM (0xTsz)

207 These two paragraphs tell you everything you need to know about this mewling quim of an educator:

"In the start of his piece, Chait hypothetically asks if "the offensiveness of an idea [can] be determined objectively, or only by recourse to the identity of the person taking offense." Here, he's getting at the concerns addressed by Reed and Reilly-Cooper, the worry that we've turned our analysis so completely inward that our judgment of a person's speech hinges more upon their identity signifiers than on their ideas.

A sensible response to Chait's question would be that this is a false binary, and that ideas can and should be judged both by the strength of their logic and by the cultural weight afforded to their speaker's identity. Chait appears to believe only the former, and that's kind of ridiculous. Of course someone's social standing affects whether their ideas are considered offensive, or righteous, or even worth listening to. How can you think otherwise?"

Posted by: Xander Crews at June 03, 2015 02:29 PM (3Ceoj)

208 "These street people are taking things. Someone took my laptop."

"But you said private property was theft."

"It is. But they took my personal laptop."

Posted by: OCCUPY 'tard at June 03, 2015 02:29 PM (ehgJz)

209 Prance away shrieking, more likely.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:28 PM (0xTsz)

So are you volunteering to be Ace's Chief Vox Correspondent?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:29 PM (kff5f)

210 Real thing a feminist once told my husband:

"You think just because you use logic and reason that your argument is valid!"

Uh...yeah.

Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (v51LX)

211
All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama should stop thisstooped idea byRep. Cresent Hardy ofR-Nev. He introduced a racist and insulting billon May 13 reintroduced a bill that would name one of the peaks of Frenchman Mountain to the east of Las Vegas for President Ronald Reagan. The peak would become known as Mount Reagan. Persons of color would be highly insulted if this were to happen because both Bush and Reagon lied to the world and got away with it and sttareted a multitude of illegal wars. If anything it should be named after Presdent Obalama for all the great things he has done for this county and for persons of color and persons of some color.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (lNSdJ)

212 In any case, we had to watch a video for it, a
"patient decision aid" given to prostate patients during the discussion,
I pointed out the obvious bias towards radiation treatment and noted
this and said it was probably produced by a radiating machine maker (it
was) teacher and students flipped out that I would critique it,
basically shouted at me for a while.

Should've railed against "corporatist medicine." Then they'd have cheered.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (oKE6c)

213 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 02:25 PM (4df7R)

They were mad because they realized their hypothetical choices for the activity (pretend you have cancer, what option do you choose) were wrong. (Or at least based on bad info. Considerable value judgments are applied.)

I also got yelled at when I pointed out that the professor's interpretation of "Minimal Risk" was not at all in line wit OHRP's (the regulatory body that enforces those rules.)
A fellow student said "well to be fair, you never critique the professor in a law school"
I responded "fuck that, I'm not letting a bunch of students leave with an interpretation so wrong, it'd get their clients fined out of existence."

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (U8W/7)

214 I was defending the rest of the hard sciences which Little Miss Snowflake so blithely dismisses.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:27 PM (kff5f)

Eh, Mental block on Little Miss Snowflake, I think I blacked out after her weird evolutionary psych rant.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:32 PM (U8W/7)

215 210 Real thing a feminist once told my husband:

"You think just because you use logic and reason that your argument is valid!"

Uh...yeah.

Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (v51LX)

Years ago I heard rabid feminists (is there another kind?) at Berkeley rail against the use of logic and reason as part of male oppression that lead the faithful away from Truth. The message was essentially "Go with The ~~Force~~ Cooch."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:32 PM (oKE6c)

216 Good post, ace.

Lord of the Flies, here we come.

Posted by: rickl at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (zoehZ)

217 The ridiculous conversion of wants/desires/whims/tastes/bigotries into "rights" would not have proceeded one inch with a functioning judiciary. Instead we have, at key times and places, an unaccountable, unelected super-legislature for dummies (and I include some "conservative" judicial types in this broadside, based on their jaw-dropping ignorance of many topics they display when issuing ukazes over subjects that have no business discussing in the first place).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (QDnY+)

218 Eh, Mental block on Little Miss Snowflake, I think I blacked out after her weird evolutionary psych rant.

Completely understandable.

And, on a semi-related note: I've seen an increase in my personal circle of people who don't even know what Chesterton's Fence *is.* Let alone the moral of the story.

I must be doing something wrong.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (kff5f)

219 tsrblke,

Good to see you here this fine day. Hope little one's doing well.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (8uhgy)

220 Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (v51LX)

I studied a bit of narrative ethics. It has a place especially given the rich history of casuistry.

The feminists and other PoMos take it to insanity.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:34 PM (U8W/7)

221 >>So are you volunteering to be Ace's Chief Vox Correspondent?

Geez, now I'm running away shrieking.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 03, 2015 02:34 PM (0xTsz)

222 Dumbass. If the monsters don't kill you, the villagers will. I should know.

Posted by: Victor Frankenstein at June 03, 2015 02:34 PM (zhb21)

223 Lord of the Flies, here we come.
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MOAR AMMO!

Posted by: Professional Journalist at June 03, 2015 02:35 PM (HstNY)

224 Tony Stark after creating Ultron.

Posted by: EC at June 03, 2015 02:35 PM (cJ1t+)

225 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 03, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)
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What you said.

Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at June 03, 2015 02:35 PM (g1MTt)

226 I also got yelled at when I pointed out that the
professor's interpretation of "Minimal Risk" was not at all in line wit
OHRP's (the regulatory body that enforces those rules.)

A fellow student said "well to be fair, you never critique the professor in a law school"
I responded "fuck that, I'm not letting a bunch of students leave
with an interpretation so wrong, it'd get their clients fined out of
existence."

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:30 PM (U8W/7)

I taught my boys that when people have the goods in an argument, they will bore your balls off with excruciating substantiating detail. When someone tries to curtail debate (through, e.g., shouting someone down or dismissing further discussion as not worthwhile), it's generally because they don't have shit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:35 PM (oKE6c)

227 Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (8uhgy)

She's doing well for a 5 month old.
Solids get started on Friday (:shiver

She's at Day care right now as I had class to teach this morning and am putting of writing right now.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at June 03, 2015 02:35 PM (U8W/7)

228 >>A fellow student said "well to be fair, you never critique the professor in a law school"

?????

Glad you pushed back.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2015 02:36 PM (k2QA3)

229 The Balkanization continues.

Posted by: River Guide at June 03, 2015 02:37 PM (RJMhd)

230 The SoCons scared off the Indies and Dems

Prove it.
How many dems fled in terror? How many died for the lack of voting with us, but for the dreded socons?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 03, 2015 02:37 PM (Spluw)

231 Years ago I heard rabid feminists (is there another kind?) at Berkeley rail against the use of logic and reason as part of male oppression that lead the faithful away from Truth. The message was essentially "Go with The Force Cooch."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:32 PM (oKE6c)

The problem with that is that there are certain Cooch Having Americans for whom Go With The Cooch means that the Cooch wants the Brain to use logic and reason.

Then again, I've been informed reliably that this means I'm not really a Cooch Having American so whatever hands.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 02:38 PM (mf5HN)

232 "Years ago I heard rabid feminists (is there another kind?) at Berkeley rail against the use of logic and reason as part of male oppression that lead the faithful away from Truth. The message was essentially "Go with The Force Cooch."

Yeah I had another feminist tell me to stop arguing like a man. Apparently logic and facts are anti woman. Those same feminists love to tell me to go ask my husband what my opinion should be. Lord, if only they knew what the poor man suffers with me.

Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:38 PM (v51LX)

233 I see it all the time in the technical field I work in - grown women who will spend hours complaining about the failings of a software product they barely understand, rather than doing a search to see if someone else has found a solution, or using a feasible work-around that is offered them. The cannot accept the concept that the purpose of their employment is productivity first and their opinions being fully vented second.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 03, 2015 02:40 PM (sG76x)

234 The Balkanization continues.>>>

Is that doe before or after the Vulcanization?

Posted by: 1950s Dad at June 03, 2015 02:40 PM (81UWZ)

235 It's funny... we used to honor heroes. Now, we honor victims. Probably because it's so much easier to be a victim than a hero.

Being a hero is so elitist and ableist, right?

I felt sorry for Laura Kipnis after reading her essay yesterday; I think in part because she hadn't hidden from her principles -- she believed in saying what she thought needed to be said, regardless of the outcome. The prof who penned this one today, who clearly has changed his/her syllabi in order to not offend the easily offended? No sympathy for him/her. As others have said, this is what they sowed; this is what they deserve to reap. They couldn't be bothered to stand up for freedom of expression when it was ideas on the right being ushered off campus.

Posted by: elaine at June 03, 2015 02:40 PM (Y0Piu)

236 Yeah I had another feminist tell me to stop arguing like a man. Apparently logic and facts are anti woman. Those same feminists love to tell me to go ask my husband what my opinion should be. Lord, if only they knew what the poor man suffers with me.
Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:38 PM (v51LX)

I still think the best is when people ask you if you know how you get pregnant.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 02:42 PM (mf5HN)

237 Liberals already engage in intellectual terrorism and what I would call bureaucratic terrorism. They seize the relevant bastions of power and enforce dictates by twisting the rule, ignoring them or otherwise obfuscating them. They even sometimes lawlessly just ignore them. In that regard, we can perhaps say they've even engaged in legislative terrorism, which most of us know as anarchy or perhaps despotism.

But those are use for "good" ends since they advance their goals?

You can put that genie back in the bottle. When you stoke the mob and the mob runs out of victims it turns on you.

Let's hope it effectively destroys them. Not only do I not have sympathy, I have an extra large box of popcorn.

These people are simply bullies. Even worse, they pretended to be savior in order to seize the mechanism they now use against everyone. Whether academia or government, they've hidden their actions surreptitiously as noble, righteous ends when all they wanted was to corrupt, coerce and dictate.

Fuck them. Fuck them with a spork up the squeakhole.

Posted by: Marcus T. at June 03, 2015 02:42 PM (GGCsk)

238 "I still think the best is when people ask you if you know how you get pregnant."

We have GOT to stop washing our underwear together.

Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:43 PM (v51LX)

239 The fat girls have won.

Posted by: Jeanne of the Great White North at June 03, 2015 02:45 PM (bRcCO)

240 There is no discernible difference between progressivism and Borderline/Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Posted by: some random meathead

In many ways, this is also the story of Barack Obama.

Really.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at June 03, 2015 02:45 PM (RFeQD)

241 The ridiculous conversion of wants/desires/whims/tastes/bigotries into "rights" would not have proceeded one inch with a functioning judiciary. Instead we have, at key times and places, an unaccountable, unelected super-legislature for dummies (and I include some "conservative" judicial types in this broadside, based on their jaw-dropping ignorance of many topics they display when issuing ukazes over subjects that have no business discussing in the first place).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 03, 2015 02:33 PM (QDnY+)

Hey, it worked for me.

Posted by: Zombie FDR at June 03, 2015 02:45 PM (mmlFU)

242 The Balkanization continues.
Posted by: River Guide at June 03, 2015 02:37 PM (RJMhd)

---

Yup.... but its part of the plan.

If we all were to unite around singular concepts like Americanism.... there would be no "them". There would only by be "us".

Its a helluva lot harder to rile up hatred and animosity towards people viewed as "them" than members viewed as "us".

We're all being seperated from that unifying culture and segregated special interest enclave camps based on hyphenated tribal identities and encouraged to war with one another.

Cloward- Piven indeed.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

243 I honesty feel a large portion of the Democrats actually believed the lies being told and thought their parties actions were for noble ends. But they've lost those people who are somewhat in the middle through the reign of terror Obama has unleashed on the country. Those moderate adherents are smart enough to know most of the Democrat's agenda is a lie and they were used to advance their real destruction.

Nobody likes to be played the fool. Not even some Democrats.

Scary part is that a large portion of Democrats just shrugged off all the lawlessness and obfuscation as a matter of advancing the cause.

Those are people who need to feel the pendulum swing back. That's the only way to prevent this from happening again.

Posted by: Marcus T. at June 03, 2015 02:48 PM (GGCsk)

244 Because Leftists, Democrats, Progressives et al don't have any of the facts on their side, it is necessary for the to elevate feelings to be greater than facts.

I feel I'm a woman in a man's body.
I feel there are 48 difference genders.
I feel that America is racist.
I feel that the rich don't pay their share.
I feel that the Democrats care about me.
And so on.

That's the culture we live in, folks. Feelings uber alles.

Posted by: Null at June 03, 2015 02:48 PM (xjpRj)

245 238
"I still think the best is when people ask you if you know how you get pregnant."

We have GOT to stop washing our underwear together.

Posted by: Lauren at June 03, 2015 02:43 PM (v51LX)

honestly....to this day....i don't know how i got pregnant with my youngest.....i'm serious......he was a complete and total surprise....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 03, 2015 02:49 PM (0O7c5)

246
I feel I'm a woman in a man's body.
I feel there are 48 difference genders.
I feel that America is racist.
I feel that the rich don't pay their share.
I feel that the Democrats care about me.
And so on.

-
You forgot the big one. I feel the government ought to be paying me big money.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 03, 2015 02:50 PM (XUKZU)

247

Too bad these mushy prog teachers didn't figure out that hte students want to rebel against authority. THEIR authority...the soft-shelled minds are programmed for it.

Posted by: Rev Dr Dumb Bunnies at June 03, 2015 02:50 PM (cNiT0)

248 Too bad these mushy prog teachers didn't figure out
that hte students want to rebel against authority. THEIR authority...the
soft-shelled minds are programmed for it.

Posted by: Rev Dr Dumb Bunnies at June 03, 2015 02:50 PM (cNiT0)

that teacher fought the man and now is the man......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 03, 2015 02:52 PM (0O7c5)

249
Then again, I've been informed reliably that this means I'm not really a Cooch Having American so whatever hands.

*takes online Grant Writing class*

Proposal: To Investigate the Cooch Having Status of Alexthechick.

Hmmmmm. $50,000.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (JtwS4)

250 The problem with the Reasonable Man standard is the current lack of Reasonable Men.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)

251 He writes purty. But he disagrees with me, so:

Bet he's got a real purty mouth.

Posted by: SJWs, doing what they do at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (1Rgee)

252 >>>How'd that work out for Robespierre?

in the end, the theory proved accurate with respect to the juncture of his head and neck.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (PA7DS)

253 honestly....to this day....i don't know how i got pregnant with my youngest.....i'm serious......he was a complete and total surprise....

Behold my power.

Posted by: Val-U-Rite at June 03, 2015 02:55 PM (evdj2)

254 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Fred, the lousy presidential candidate, who is right at June 03, 2015 02:57 PM (XmOA9)

255 Mama Spiders always hope the wind will carry off the Baby Spiders, before the hunger becomes a serious lack of respect for credentials. Otherwise, that whole "Your daddy really did not run off" defense becomes "I would not mind if I was already dead".

My cat just stares. I know he is working it out. Simple math.

Posted by: first and last at June 03, 2015 02:57 PM (o/3Hk)

256 I still think the best is when people ask you if you know how you get pregnant.

Even better is when those, "I can do everything you do, and twice as better", ask YOU to squish a spider.

Nope, no can do. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2015 02:57 PM (dwk+k)

257 We're all being seperated from that unifying culture
and segregated special interest enclave camps based on hyphenated
tribal identities and encouraged to war with one another.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2015 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

All explicitly part of the plan. Bella Dodd wrote in Ch. 13 of School of Darkness (very worthwhile reading, and available free online) about how two Italians showed up in NYC bringing orders from the Comintern (i.e., Joe Stalin) to the CPUSA to drop its melting pot "We're Americans too" perspective, and to adopt a "salad bowl" hyphenated Americans strategy to promote division.
And this was 1948, IIRC.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:57 PM (oKE6c)

258 Pol Pot, Lenin, Marx, Castro.....

They all know this. Create a narrative, sell it to the young. Make rejection a death penalty offense. This is where totalitarianism is born

Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at June 03, 2015 02:57 PM (dw7lk)

259 250 The problem with the Reasonable Man standard is the current lack of Reasonable Men.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)

Ah, the same flaw as the "wise Latina" standard for Supreme Court Justices.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2015 02:59 PM (oKE6c)

260 This "eating their own" thing won't amount to anything, practically speaking.

The idiocy, racism, moral inversion, narcissism, ignorance, bigotry, conformism, and mediocrity that have displaced substance virtue and any distinctly American sense of individual freedom will dominate the NPR class for our lifetimes (all of us). And thus, through non-responsive, coercive institutions lording over a mostly-passive, Soviet-like populace, will dominate all of us.

Islands of freedom, sure, yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 03, 2015 02:59 PM (QDnY+)

261 *takes online Grant Writing class*

Proposal: To Investigate the Cooch Having Status of Alexthechick.

Hmmmmm. $50,000.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 03, 2015 02:54 PM (JtwS4)

*arches brow*

I was unaware that you thought my value so low.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 03:08 PM (mf5HN)

262 I was told in the mid-eighties by a teacher/prof/TA that everyone has their own Truth.
That's not where today's bullshit started, but having an individual Truth is a mile marker on the road to perdition. It destroys the concept of universal truth, and puts a damn big dent in logic.
What could go wrong?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 03, 2015 03:14 PM (XmOA9)

263 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 03, 2015 03:18 PM (4KoRb)

264
I was unaware that you thought my value so low.

It is already outright thievery to be paid to investigate the Imperial Cooch.

But I could use the spare change.

I'll buy us some divans and throw rugs for the Manatee Viewing Perch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 03, 2015 03:21 PM (JtwS4)

265 Um, don't suggest haggling over a price with Alexthechick. Just don't.

Posted by: Winston Churchill's Ghost at June 03, 2015 03:22 PM (w4say)

266 Hoist on your retard is one of the more hilarious things of this end of civilization.

Posted by: Veeshir at June 03, 2015 03:23 PM (QIdGz)

267 Those liberal students ARE your leftist victory, professor. What the hell else did you think you were going to produce with what you were teaching them?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 03, 2015 03:23 PM (XO6WW)

268 I'll buy us some divans and throw rugs for the Manatee Viewing Perch.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 03, 2015 03:21 PM (JtwS4)

Oh well that's okay then.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at June 03, 2015 03:25 PM (mf5HN)

269 Apropos of nothing and the earlier thread, I just started reading the original script for Interstellar and, *shocker*, Murphy was a boy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 03, 2015 03:26 PM (evdj2)

270 I'll buy us some divans and throw rugs for the Manatee Viewing Perch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 03, 2015 03:21 PM

Won't the divans and throw rugs get wet if the manatees use them for viewing perch?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 03, 2015 03:35 PM (h4vJk)

271 $20 says this is a left wing white male, who honestly believed because he thought left wing good-thoughts, he was Down with the Oppressed. Now, after years of denying there is an objective truth and saying anything white men did were bad, he realizes the mob just sees him as another evil white man. I have absolutely no pity for him, he actually at one point in the article defends identity politics, he just thinks the student ought to use it against evil conservatives -- not good guys like HIM!!! Idiot. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 03, 2015 03:44 PM (hslAc)

272 No wonder our kids are stumbling off the campuses like 9 year old tantrum throwers, this "professor" is a total asshole without an ounce of self-awareness. Hey genius, it's YOUR fault your students are like this so GFY.....

Posted by: Hank Scorpio at June 03, 2015 03:50 PM (nQREt)

273 His monkeys, his circus.

Enjoy the poo-slinging, professor!

Posted by: Sasquatch at June 03, 2015 04:24 PM (23s/T)

274 I just got home and didn't have a chance to read the comments first!

Posted by: Sasquatch at June 03, 2015 04:25 PM (23s/T)

275
I did like this sentence, though:

"Internet liberals pooh-poohed this comment, likening the professor to one of Tom Friedman's imaginary cab drivers"

Posted by: Holdfast at June 03, 2015 04:36 PM (Gzb30)

276 Virtually every single one. From community college all the way to the Ivy Leagues. Every. Single. Campus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2015 02:03 PM (St6BJ)

I doubt if it happens at Hillsdale or a handful of Catholic colleges which offer The Great Books program. But that's it and those colleges are tiny specks in a sea of PC sludge.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 03, 2015 04:39 PM (u0lmX)

277 271 $20 says this is a left wing white male, who honestly believed because he thought left wing good-thoughts, he was Down with the Oppressed.

Of course he's a left wing white male. Being left wing is how white males erase the evilness of being white and male.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at June 03, 2015 04:41 PM (u0lmX)

278 So science is junk because of white male dominance ?Well except for global warming ( of course ) . Gravity junk . Math junk . AC/DC junk ? But I like "Sink the Pink ."

Signed Juan " Shake the foundations " Carlos .

Posted by: Drpullit at June 03, 2015 04:42 PM (S+Pxw)

279 I played the professor, "John," in "Oleanna" two years ago. It was an ordeal for me as an actor who is also a career academic and a conservative. It is a story about a man who is the victim of an outrage so unjust he snaps at the end and beats the bitch senseless, at which point she raises her head, nods, and says quietly, "yes, yes, that's right, yes...." Terrifying because John created and nurtured the conditions that ultimately destroyed him. Carol is exactly the kind of vacuous half-wit whose inability to reason and understand is everyone else's fault but her own, and the Johns of the world have enabled them and empowered them beyond anyone's ability to control, with the result that they now control the field and have won the war for the culture. Game over man.

Posted by: Milesdei at June 03, 2015 04:56 PM (q7RPx)

280 The Soviet New Man does not need your approval, comrade professor. He cares not for your fears or your disdain. He and his female counterpart simply are. They are human perfection. They control the future, and you would do well to remember that.

Posted by: Zampolit Fa Cube Itches at June 03, 2015 05:14 PM (amQXf)

281 That whole 'miserable eggs of ignorance' bit up there is pure Shakespeare. Quality.

Posted by: bour3 at June 03, 2015 05:46 PM (5x3+2)

282 His problem is he still thinks the students are liberal. He may still be liberal (as in classical liberal) but his students are leftist. Hard left and getting further left every day.

Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at June 03, 2015 06:54 PM (98Feg)

283 "It's democratic and egalitarian the same way taking a loose, liquidy shit is democratic and egalitarian."

Democracy and equality are like diarrhea. Who knew?

Posted by: Loose Stool at June 03, 2015 07:00 PM (Bk9Zz)

284 No, he didn't program them, they programmed themselves.

Someone above made the distinction between liberals and leftists.

The liberal teachers/professors indoctrinate looking askance at conservatives.

The students talk amongst themselves and learn they have power over others because the leftist democratic party needs young voters and so democratic elected and appointed officials anywhere will agree with them as much as they can.

I'm not in favor of the students getting him in trouble because of the, "first they came for the..." quote, with the students as the nazis.

Posted by: Something Guy at June 04, 2015 04:21 AM (KdxDZ)

285 I used to work in academia, teaching undergraduates; I was good at my job. But even then, 25 years ago, I was in the minority, both as one there to teach people to think and as a non-supporter of abortion and other similar monstrosities. The syllabus is your contract. Say in there what you are going to do, and what you expect. As a PhD, you should be smart enough to craft it to provide a semester-length "trigger warning." Or whatever they are calling it these days.

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