Leak: Hastert Made Secret Payments to Pay Off Male Victim of Sexual Abuse

I was asked yesterday what I thought Denny Hastert's big secret was.

I said, "Diddling a boy during his wrestling coach days."

Indicted former House Speaker Dennis Hastert was paying an individual from his past to conceal sexual misconduct, two federal law enforcement officials said Friday.
One of the officials, who would not speak publicly about the federal charges in Chicago, said "Individual A," as the person is described in Thursday's federal indictment, was a man and that the alleged misconduct was unrelated to Hastert’s tenure in Congress. The actions date to Hastert’s time as a Yorkville, Ill., high school wrestling coach and teacher, the official said.
"It goes back a long way, back to then," the source said. "It has nothing to do with public corruption or a corruption scandal. Or to his time in office." Thursday's indictment described the misconduct "against Individual A" as having "occurred years earlier."

Flashback to Hastert's fall from power: It was over an alleged cover up of Rep. Mark Foley's flirtation with a (male) Congressional page.

He stepped down after Republicans lost the House majority in the 2006 midterm elections. Those elections took place in the middle of an investigation into the GOP leadership’s handling of allegations that a Republican Florida congressman, Mark Foley, had engaged in inappropriate explicit communications with House pages, who were of high school age.

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1 Ugh. SO he's just like Hairy Reid.
Allegedly.

Posted by: The Matrix at May 29, 2015 02:51 PM (q6kiT)

2 Worst Part. If he takes out $3.5 million and spends it on hookers in Nevada and weed in Colorado he's a free man.

But not telling the feds why you withdrew your own money from a bank account is a crime.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 29, 2015 02:52 PM (GGCsk)

3 That's not Wrasslin'!

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 02:52 PM (ycu3n)

4 They guy blackmailing him shd go to jail.

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 02:52 PM (iQIUe)

5 But first, you must Pin Me.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (ycu3n)

6 I don't understand what the big deal is.
Someone want to lend a hand here?

Posted by: Kevin Jennings at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (q6kiT)

7 And it leaks,because Republican.

Posted by: steevy at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (mGBKM)

8 Wonder why it took so long to manifest. Supposedly this didn't start until he was out as SOTH.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (LA7Cm)

9 Gawd...I'm so sick of this crap.
Vote every incumbent out.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (Z9g7j)

10 I withdrew the money because Ckuf you that's why.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (zv9Ot)

11 What proof did the guy have? Or does this mean there was more than one and it would have all unraveled if the first came forward (when he didn't get his money)?

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (A98Xu)

12 This was about ruining Hastert and tarnishing the GOP with the Democrats meme. I can almost guarantee he won't do any time. It's more about the media and propaganda value.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (GGCsk)

13 So, as a former "constituent" of Mr. Hastert (NO not *THAT* kind; I have received no payments), I am now forced to wonder:

Who did he piss off to generate this attention? He's a lobbyist now: he must have been pushing something that Oblahblah or Reid or Pelousy or the Rat-faced Iranian didn't like. Anybody got any ideas?

Posted by: chiefjaybob at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (4CBaM)

14 I made a proposal last night. All politicians that serve in congress must serve two months in prison for every year they are in congress. They can use this for time served for any crimes they are later found guilty of because they are.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (mKilZ)

15 Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is sucking the blood from a Guatemalan street urchin she had flown in for a snack using donations from the Russian mafia and George Soros.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (oVJmc)

16 Knowing that this might come out someday, he should have been a Democrat.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (AC0lD)

17 nobody said much of anything about what I did

because, Democrat

Posted by: Gerry Studds at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (8CdUx)

18 I'm so old I remember when law enforcement put blackmailers in jail -- not the people who paid them.

Lawn; off get
Repost; shoot, so, me, assemble

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (xQX/f)

19 Horrible. Grown men, please stay away from boys. WTH.

Separate issue is whether the Feds had a right to be all up in his money's biz.

Is paying off a blackmailer a crime? I'm pretty sure blackmail is a crime, so is the blackmailer going to be prosecuted?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (shFKH)

20 So basically he was blackmailed, harassed by the DOJ for paying the blackmailer, and is now having the information released anyway.

That about right?

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (+bkaS)

21 Good work, today.

Now let's hit the showers and I'll show you how to use a Rear Naked Choke in the real world.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (ycu3n)

22 Nice thing about living in a morally-bankrupt country - nowadays most folks either don't care or heartily support such activity. It's gonna be tough times for the blackmail industry going forward.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 29, 2015 02:56 PM (PtTYB)

23 Hastert is much like Average Joe.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 02:56 PM (zv9Ot)

24 Shoulda done it in another country.
Idiot.

Posted by: Robert Menendez at May 29, 2015 02:56 PM (q6kiT)

25
Confused "lip lock" with "head lock"... common mistake, anybody could fall to it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 29, 2015 02:56 PM (VLTL9)

26 Hmmm. I din't realize Hastert was a Democrat.

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 02:56 PM (sdxPm)

27 10 I withdrew the money because Ckuf you that's why.
Posted by: Boss Moss
___________

This is excellent legal advice that is very close to one-size-fits-all. This is Obama's world now. We just live in it.

Posted by: Furious George at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (UlJ3l)

28 Some of us are smart enough to do this on far away islands so it doesn't come back to bite you.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (q6kiT)

29 A pox on all their houses, Dem and Repub.

But of course, in the MFM, all Dems are innocent and good and pure as the driven snow and all Repubs are evil.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (7ObY1)

30 Republican trumps Gay every time in Who Should We Stomp On Poker.

Posted by: Feh at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (S+RBU)

31 Our betters, ladies and gentlemen. Our betters.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (q9lTq)

32 I thought PIBA was Politically Correct. Did I miss a memo or something? This country if full of H8ers.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (oDCMR)

33 I diddled minors who worked as Congressional pages. I had no regrets

turned my back on the House while being reprimanded, I did. F*ck you, America

Posted by: Gerry Studds at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (8CdUx)

34 I saw that yesterday. A congressman from LA complained to Boehner who told Reynolds who told Hastert

who did nothing

they all knew for years. at least two years

and then when asked why he did nothing for years, Hastert claimed he did not remember Reynolds telling him anything about Foley

In addition a member of the IL delegation, Hastert's delegation,complained that a page in his office had received inappropriate invitations from another member of Congress

but he would not say who, at least not in public.

he started making payments about the time the Sandusky thing came out

there will be more than one

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (zOTsN)

35 Shoulda called Jeffrey Epstein.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (oVJmc)

36 Oh and LA Times, while you're busy disclosing things why don't you pull those fucking tapes out of your vault.

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (+bkaS)

37 If he abused a child then lock his ass up and throw away the fucking key. These sick fucks need to be dealt with! Depending on when it happened could be a statute of limitations thing, so the victim said I am going public unless you pay me. Fucked up world we live in.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (COpZ4)

38 I don't understand what the big deal is.
Someone want to lend a hand here?

No. Can't afford a pregnancy.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (nkjQe)

39 We can't have you Tea Party hayseeds presuming to pick candidates. It would be a scandal a minute! Leave these things to seasoned professionals who know what they're doing.

Posted by: The GOP Establishment at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (noWW6)

40 Hastert, another jackass, pervert politician.

These freaks LOVE politics.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (A98Xu)

41 Sure it wasn't just some innocent locker room tomfoolery?

Posted by: Eric Massa at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (q6kiT)

42 Nice thing about living in a morally-bankrupt country - nowadays most folks either don't care or heartily support such activity.

Odd how they make an exception to "everyone should fuck anything anytime anywhere, and tell you all about it when they're done!" for Republicans, conservatives, and Christians.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (ZKzrr)

43 Heh- Pin State?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (NeFrd)

44 I bet Twister parties got pretty tense at the Hastert residence.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 29, 2015 02:58 PM (aLLaQ)

45 I was wrong. Really, Really wrong. You will actually can find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than Mos Eisley.

... D.C.

Posted by: Obi-Wan Kenobi at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (Dr58V)

46 Mark Foley, had engaged in inappropriate explicit communications with House pages, who were of high school age.

As I recall, all of those "underaged" pages turned out to be, well, not underaged.

But he resigned anyway, because REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (7ObY1)

47 I'm surprised Congressmen didn't exempt themselves from this law too. And oh, buggering little boys too.

Posted by: just saying at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (wkuqO)

48 Like I always say - don't touch, tweet!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (q6kiT)

49 I think I've seen it all.

NSFW NSFW NSFW
NSFW NSFW NSFW
NSFW NSFW
NSFW NSFW

https://goo.gl/riyZmL

NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW

Fortunately, they are still alive.

Islam is evil

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (iQIUe)

50 33 I diddled minors who worked as Congressional pages. I had no regrets

turned my back on the House while being reprimanded, I did. F*ck you, America
Posted by: Gerry Studds at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (8CdUx)

Didn't the democrats also applaud you?

Posted by: Buzzion at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (mKilZ)

51 At least Denny can now get some of that fat NAMBLA lobbying money.

Posted by: Jollyroger at May 29, 2015 02:59 PM (t06LC)

52 there will be more than one
Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 02:57 PM (zOTsN)

This. Never heard of one of these types that are satisfied and stop at just one.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at May 29, 2015 03:00 PM (4CBaM)

53 >>I'm surprised Congressmen didn't exempt themselves from this law too. And oh, buggering little boys too.

Posted by: just saying

I like the way you think.

Posted by: Harry Reid at May 29, 2015 03:00 PM (sQzB6)

54 WOO!

Posted by: Ric Flair at May 29, 2015 03:00 PM (ycu3n)

55 What the hell? I hereby announce my candidacy for the Republican nomination for president in 2016.

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky--tanned, ready, and rested at May 29, 2015 03:00 PM (UlJ3l)

56 It's terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged.

Posted by: GKC at May 29, 2015 03:00 PM (aSKRB)

57 Approximate impact of Dennis Hastert on any damn thing going on is this entire branch of the galaxy these days: A lot less than ten thousand anythings.

Now, having said that...Congress. What a great bunch of folks.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (659DL)

58 Why does the Democrat Party hate gays?

Posted by: Flipping the Meme at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (7ObY1)

59 I'm sure there's an innocent explanation - just ask my poolboy.

Posted by: Brian Singer at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (q6kiT)

60 He should share a cell with the Clintons!

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (COpZ4)

61 Why aren't the Democrats celebrating Hastert's lifestyle choice? He's one of them now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (zv9Ot)

62 Who knew Denny Hastert was Greek? The stuff you learn.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (oDCMR)

63 I know what'll be funny !
I'll make jokes about child rape using a sock!

Now I remember why I stopped reading the day posts.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (V/Ucx)

64 Citizen: Denny, Denny, where you keep your penni?
Denny: I kept it in closely. All $3.5 million worth.
Citizen: If $10,000 per withdrawal you had a busy penni, Denny!

Posted by: Whatever at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (NUqwG)

65 What state was Hastert from?

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (sdxPm)

66 Speaking of the Foley thing, the pages he was chatting up were 18 or older right?

Why is it OK to run him out of the house for what he did (as far as we know, he didn't actually have relations with any of them), but Billy Jeff and Monica is OK and defensible and Shut Up?

I know the above is quite old news, but still.

Anyway, expecting consistency from Dems is one way to guarantee continual disappointment.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 29, 2015 03:01 PM (shFKH)

67 But it is OK to put people like this in as Boy Scout Scoutmasters to suprevise your kids camping.

Not only OK, but you are required to do it or we will pull your charter.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (GpgJl)

68 I suspect that every politician in Washington is being blackmailed.

It's why it's so corrupt, and why it never changes. and why the system swallows opposition almost immediately.

And I think about all those FBI files that Hillary walked off with.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (oVJmc)

69 I shudder to think how many more cases like this will (ahem) pop up before the next election.

Against Republicans, of course.

Posted by: tsj017 at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (4YUWF)

70 in Illinois it looks like the statute of limitations on childhood sex abuse has run, ten years from when you turn 18

but he could still ruin Hastert

and dollars to doughnuts there is more than one

publicity will bring them out of the woodwork. That's why he paid. They guy contacted him and started getting paid during the whole Sandusky thing

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (zOTsN)

71 Repeating yesterdays post.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Normally, the structuring bit pisses me off. But in this case.
And ignoring the blackmailer is a nice twist.

But, FUKC HIM!

(pineapple, barbed wire not included. Some assembly required)

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (JOG+K)

72 Hastert trained Massa in the use of tickles for fighting

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (3ZtZW)

73 #1 - Sick. If a crime took place, prosecute. If Hastert took advantage of someone, there is no excuse. He deserves jail time if he messed with high school boys.

#2 - People should not have assets seized for investigations started over how they choose to deposit and withdraw money.

#3 - This not a defense of Hastert, but I seriously doubt this just "popped up" after routine investigation into structuring withdrawals. The government apparatus is fully owned and operated by the Democrat Party and woe to those who are against it.

#4 - What if.... Denny is innocent of any wrong-doing but was being blackmailed by a nutcase? What if he paid him off out of fear, not guilt? Will all these liberals and high-minded media folks walk all of this back?

D

Posted by: DMan at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (1EZRW)

74 Now I remember why I stopped reading the day posts.

New here?

Posted by: Flipping the Meme at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (7ObY1)

75
Pfft,
I got into my kid sisters pants

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (q+zA9)

76 Dead girl or live boy.

Posted by: Jack at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (XhzTz)

77 66 Foley didn't really do anything wrong but,Republican

Posted by: steevy at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (mGBKM)

78 Where's the Burn It Down post?

Posted by: Feh at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (S+RBU)

79 "It has nothing to do with public corruption or a corruption scandal. Or to his time in office."

Then it's OK. It was just diddling a boy.

Posted by: douger at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (eM6QK)

80 Check that state question. He was from Illinois. Thought Yorkville PA.

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (sdxPm)

81 Hastert is my favorite HP Lovecraft elder god, BTW.

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (3ZtZW)

82 I suspected Hastert was paying off some baby mama, but I guess I was wrong.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (shFKH)

83 I should have been a Wrestling Coach.

Posted by: Frugal Gourmet at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (ycu3n)

84 Sweep the leg!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (JO9+V)

85 But isn't this what the gaystapo wants us to do with the youngins?

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:03 PM (9221z)

86 In this corner,...THE CRUSHER!!!!

Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (jmN7w)

87 I was asked yesterday what I thought Denny Hastert's big secret was.

I said, "Diddling a boy during his wrestling coach days."

Ding ding ding ding, says the LA Times.

Blessed be Ace the Prophet.

Repent ye, for Doom is Near and the Letting of It Burn shall Soon Commence.

May SMOD smile upon Ye and smite Ye FRIST!1!

Posted by: DOOOOOM! at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (0NdlF)

88 This is one of the big reasons I never wrestled - it was too gay.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (oDCMR)

89 Quick Denny say you switched parties!

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (9221z)

90 Yet Bill Clinton has done nothing worthy of speculation nor investigation? Let's clean all of these guys out of power... elected officials, lobbyists, cronies... every single damn one of them.

Posted by: DMan at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (1EZRW)

91 #4 - What if.... Denny is innocent of any wrong-doing but was being blackmailed by a nutcase? What if he paid him off out of fear, not guilt? Will all these liberals and high-minded media folks walk all of this back?

D
Posted by: DMan at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (1EZRW)

I've wondered the same thing.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (shFKH)

92 Mocking pedos for being creepy perverts who can't be trusted isn't really "making jokes about child rape". Imo

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (aLLaQ)

93 Who was that Democrat congressman who was caught molesting underage congressional pages (boys) back in the 80s and nothing ever happened to him?

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (I8YZX)

94 It's funny how the DoJ can go to great lengths to indict a former GOP big shot on "structuring" and "lying" while he is being blackmailed for something that happened 30 years ago but can't seem to find any evidence that the IRS did anything wrong ever.

I'm moving slowly to the burn it all down and salt the earth party.
Thunderdome 2016

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (7YNVX)

95 Anyway, expecting consistency from Dems is one way to guarantee continual disappointment.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick)
____________

Consistency is an impediment to power. Power is everything to both Democrats and Mahometans.

Posted by: Furious George at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (UlJ3l)

96 My half-nelson is turning into a full-nelson, iykwimaityd

Posted by: Denis Hastert. at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (7ObY1)

97 Foley was chatting up a 16 year old

but they could only prove sex with pages after they were 18

not sure I would trust any congressional investigation to begin with. And especially not if Hastert was involved

BTW Hastert has two sons

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

98 And it leaks,because Republican.
Posted by: steevy at May 29, 2015 02:54 PM (mGBKM)

Secrecy is pretty much the dumbest deal he could have possibly made here...

Sidenote: read that Bloomberg article on currency. I really want to send everyone in the Obama administration a book/film/pamphlet about the dangers of inflating your way out of debt or a bad economy...

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (lIU4e)

99
As a former grappler.......

*shifts into lurk mode*

*puts "Ridin the Storm Out" on the tune box*

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (8XRCm)

100 75
Pfft,
I got into my kid sisters pants

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (q+zA9)

Me too.

Posted by: Josh Duggar at May 29, 2015 03:05 PM (t06LC)

101 >>>I suspect that every politician in Washington is being blackmailed.

It's why it's so corrupt, and why it never changes. and why the system swallows opposition almost immediately.

And I think about all those FBI files that Hillary walked off with.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 03:02 PM (oVJmc)<<<

**hic** They got **hic** nothin' on me **hic** NOTHIN' I tells ya **hic**

Posted by: Agent Orange at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (Dr58V)

102 "Will all these liberals and high-minded media folks walk all of this back? "

Being a Democrat means never having to say that you're sorry.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (LA7Cm)

103 It must be nice to be a Democrat or a liberal... because then anything goes... and you are immune from the hypocrisy charge.

Cause and effect will be speculated upon and examined here, unlike in the cases where liberals commit heinous crimes.

Posted by: DMan at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (1EZRW)

104 Who was that Democrat congressman who was caught molesting underage congressional pages (boys) back in the 80s and nothing ever happened to him?
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 29, 2015 03:04 PM (I8YZX)

----

you're going to have to narow the search parameters down on that one...

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (8XRCm)

105 Tomorrow, we work on Submission Holds.
Like the Dutch Rudder and the many forms of Blumpkins.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (ycu3n)

106 stop. just stop. you don't pay over 3 mill if you didn't do it

statute of limitations has passed

I hope he loses every fucking penny

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

107 99
As a former grappler.......

*shifts into lurk mode*

*puts "Ridin the Storm Out" on the tune box*

Heh. Me too. Wrestling practice was tough. The FOOTBALL players used to feel sorry for us.

"Thinkin' about what I've been missing in the city-and I ain't missin' a thing."

Posted by: Citizen X at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (7ObY1)

108 isn't the real crime here that he lied or something? just like bill clinton did about the bj from lewinsky?

is he indicted for the actual diddling? or the lie about it? in today's culture of tolerance, I would have to assume it is perfectly acceptable for a man in his position to get a little gratification, why not? he's certainly earned it, amirite?

so just like slick willy, he didn't feel like he needed to tell everyone . . .

Posted by: chelsea danger at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (pBUj2)

109 94 It's funny how the DoJ can go to great lengths to indict a former GOP big shot on "structuring" and "lying" while he is being blackmailed for something that happened 30 years ago but can't seem to find any evidence that the IRS did anything wrong ever.

Yep

Posted by: DMan at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (1EZRW)

110 No. Can't afford a pregnancy.

Posted by: rickb223

I think you may be doing it wrong. Previous thread suggested letting Uncle Sugar pick up the tab.

Seems to work for a lot of folk.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (/Ho8c)

111 Drudge has a link claiming a "second victim".

Ye Gods.

Posted by: tsj017 at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (4YUWF)

112 they got him on this because republican and the statute of limitations had passed. they would have happily prosecuted him for the underlying crime if they could have

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:08 PM (zOTsN)

113 "Thinkin' about what I've been missing in the city-and I ain't missin' a thing."
Posted by: Citizen X at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (7ObY1)

----

Heh ..... AWESOME.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:08 PM (8XRCm)

114 Is paying off a blackmailer a crime? I'm pretty sure blackmail is a crime, so is the blackmailer going to be prosecuted?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (shFKH)

His crime was apparently trying to keep the blackmail a secret.

Which is kind of the point of blackmail, no?

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:08 PM (lIU4e)

115 It's funny how the DoJ can go to great lengths to indict a former GOP big shot on "structuring" and "lying" while he is being blackmailed for something that happened 30 years ago but can't seem to find any evidence that the IRS did anything wrong ever.

Jon Corzine. Floating in his great big swimming pool here on the 29th of May, 2015.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2015 03:08 PM (659DL)

116 We're probably going to get a steady drip of stories like this cresending into a tsunami in time for the presidential election which sweeps Hillary into the White House complete with a Democrat Senate majority.

(Hell -the Lewinsky scandal is what won Hillary her New York senate seat.)

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:08 PM (RJMhd)

117 I still don't understand this. Sounds like he was being blackmailed, which to my knowledge is illegal. The fact that he was paying it means that someone had some really strong evidence of what he did. Photos, letters, video, whatever.

So when do we get the full story?

Posted by: HH at May 29, 2015 03:09 PM (Ce4DF)

118 The story last night was dumbshit was going to agree to jail time if the allegation wasn't made public. How stupid is this guy to think this wouldn't come out no matter what?

Posted by: Aviator at May 29, 2015 03:09 PM (sQzB6)

119 Yorkville is in Illinois. At least this Yorkville, check Hasterts bio

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:09 PM (zOTsN)

120 I blame Obama.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (Uq9ly)

121 " How stupid is this guy to think this wouldn't come out no matter what?"

GOP politician stupid.

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (+bkaS)

122 So when do we get the full story?
Posted by: HH at May 29, 2015 03:09 PM (Ce4DF)

----

You dont.

We dribble a little out over time.

Keeps the focus "over there"

Posted by: Hillarys Campaign Staff at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (8XRCm)

123 So when do we get the full story?

Who. Cares.

There are squirrels and then there are dead squirrels. Really dead. Not pining for the fjords or anything.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (659DL)

124 Hastert's other alleged crime was lying to federal investigators. Remember, you don't have to be under oath to be charged with that one.

Hillary's bad memory (and party registration) have kept her out of prison.

Posted by: Furious George at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (UlJ3l)

125 What if.... Denny is innocent of any wrong-doing but was being blackmailed by a nutcase?

It's possible its a kid that he did coach, who just wanted money. So the kid threatens to make up a story and go public.

Who could prove anything either way at this late date?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (oVJmc)

126 The prisons are full of Illinois politicians.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (zv9Ot)

127 he paid three mill so the OTHERS would not come forward

and now they will

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (zOTsN)

128 The structuring thing is a Federal hassle that should be dumped.

That having beens said, Hastert was a lousy Speaker, a doof, and, we now know, a poof.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Commenter at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (67lRH)

129 Lea, they wouldn't read it and if they by some miracle they did, they wouldn't understand it. They just aren't capable of grasping it because it involves facing reality.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (m3iiU)

130 nobody said much of anything about what I did
because, Democrat
Posted by: Gerry Studds at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM

Ain't it great?

Posted by: The Gerry E. Studds Stellwagen Bank Marine Sanctuary at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (h4vJk)

131 In situations like this the best avenue of recourse is to fire the octogenarian football coach who presents with hearsay evidence.

Posted by: Penn State Universitities at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (xQX/f)

132 This kind of thing would destroy a Republican, but Gerry Studds (Democrat child molester) was re-elected 9 times.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (O7MnT)

133 So Newt, Bob Livingstone, Hastert. 3 GOP Speakers or Speaker s To Be in row, sexual scandals.

Posted by: Baldy at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (sEXjW)

134 Why this is just an absurd Democratic witch hunt!

Posted by: Mrs. D. Hastert at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (RiTnx)

135 So PIBA is a crime. Who knew?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (oDCMR)

136 We're now going to have a parade of Yorkville Backsides who are going to be red-hot angry that THEY weren't getting any payoffs.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 29, 2015 03:11 PM (o+SC1)

137 >>You dont.

We dribble a little out over time.

Keeps the focus "over there"

Posted by: Hillarys Campaign Staff

And Bill taught you the fine art of dribbling.

Posted by: Aviator at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (sQzB6)

138 Why donyou bous still have your Unis on?

It's Greco-Roman Friday.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (ycu3n)

139 This is one of the big reasons I never wrestled - it was too gay.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham

1st clue? Starting off in the greek position.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (nkjQe)

140 >>>Hastert's other alleged crime was lying to federal
investigators. Remember, you don't have to be under oath to be charged
with that one.

Posted by: Furious George at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (UlJ3l)<<<

That's worth a 4 game suspension, $1Million fine, and loss of two draft picks.

Posted by: the ~~NFL~~ DOJ at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (Dr58V)

141 so now all democrat misdeeds, coverups, and failures are going to be swept aside because an out of office republican withdrew money from his own account. The press is so excited about this story.

Posted by: california red at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (UyEG4)

142 I've been to Yorkville probably at the time this alleged to happen. Had a girlfriend from Sandich Illinois which is right next to Yorkville.

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (iQIUe)

143 Why do you boys still have your Unis on?

It's Greco-Roman Friday.

Posted by: Coach Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (ycu3n)

144 Sandwich...

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (iQIUe)

145 121 " How stupid is this guy to think this wouldn't come out no matter what?"

GOP politician stupid.
Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 03:10 PM (+bkaS)

This guy was GOP House Speaker for years... Imagine all the great deals he made then, too!

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Commenter at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (67lRH)

146 Barney Frank. Ran a whorehouse stuffed with pages, more or less

got a standing O

he should have gone to jail

but Hastert, he can die in a fire too

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:13 PM (zOTsN)

147 According to this site, paying a blackmailer in itself is not a crime. Unless you use public funds to pay with.

So the only thing Hastert is liable for under federal law is the BS "structuring" charges.

He may also be liable under State law for the sex crime of the student but that depends on the statute of limitations in what ever State (I presume IL). But that is not a federal law.

http://bit.ly/1EFh8Mb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 29, 2015 03:13 PM (GpgJl)

148 Buzzion at 14, here's a bookend to your proposal to jail all politicians after their term in office:

Anyone elected to high public office must first serve a term of no less than 5 years in prison, just for trying. If s/he behaves well in office, the mandatory jail time after their term in office may be reduced.

Posted by: nick at May 29, 2015 03:13 PM (EMQZg)

149 Heh. Me too. Wrestling practice was tough. The FOOTBALL players used to feel sorry for us.

When I wrestled in college during one practice late in November the trainers were bring trash cans into the workout room. So I asked what they were for. The answer was for the football players starting practice. Half of the threw up during their first practice.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:13 PM (sWgE+)

150 I wonder if Boehner has nightmares about someone having pictures of him doing something similar while blackout drunk.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (zauWW)

151 This is a message....
"If you don't concede on legislation,we will expose your closets and send you to jail to boot."

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (eOpVe)

152 144 Sandwich...
Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 03:12 PM (iQIUe)

That's Sammich, Sammich Illinois.

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (sdxPm)

153 Well that's too bad. I always thought he was fairly unobjectionable.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (2XMpf)

154 Does this give new meaning to the term "Hastert Rule?"

Posted by: Country Singer at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (8hctH)

155 >>Who could prove anything either way at this late date?

Want to see a very old pair of stained tighty whities?

Posted by: Llittle Johnny, Former Wrestler at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (sQzB6)

156 "Let me show you the ole' bowlers grip followed by a spearing move."

Posted by: Denny at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (GGCsk)

157 This couldn't have come out when he was cramm___ Medicare Part D down our throats? None of the House members who were getting their arms twisted could have said "Hey, I feel just like that kid you molested"? Or when the time expired on the vote "Hey, did you ignore the clock when you were molesting, er, coaching"?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (nFdGS)

158 PS - the fact that this guy was the GOP House Speaker is why the GOP always loses, even when they win.

First class moron.

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Commenter at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (67lRH)

159 You know, you using Monica, Hillary and 'steady drip' in the same Thread brings back a lot of bad memories for me.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (ycu3n)

160
How does a high school wrestling coach turned politician have access to $3.5 million dollars???

High School Coach - $55K

Speaker of the House - $150k

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (8XRCm)

161 I said, "Diddling a boy during his wrestling coach days."

Ding ding ding ding, says the LA Times.

Don't you mean "Ding-a-ling diddling, says the LA Times"?

Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (jBuUi)

162 Citizen X, #29:
"in the MFM, all Dems are good and pure as the driven snow and all Repubs are evil."

Naah, it's not that they really think that. To the average journalist, though, when a Democrat does something sleazy, it has nothing to do with his politics, and only a partisan hack would try to make it so. When a Republican does, it reflects larger issues, and they are performing a politically neutral service by making the public aware of his misdeeds.

Thus our recurring games of "Name that party."

Posted by: JPS at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (0k/27)

163 I bet he wants his $3.5 million back, or whatever he paid in blackmail. Next time you're paying someone off to keep your dirty secret safe, Denny, have a lawyer in the middle of the deal. Have the lawyer write a check to pay the person off and you pay your lawyer.

No messing around with the FBI in that scenario.

Posted by: MTF at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (DkJ4E)

164 Oh, and the other BS charge of lying to investigators. That should be repealed and only enacted if politicians are made liable for lying to the public.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (GpgJl)

165 they kid prolly went to Hastert of his lawyers and threatened to sue. And they came up with an agreement and a payment plan to recompense him for his suffering and for therapy

and really to shut up so the others don't come forward

no doubt some lawyer drafted all this up for him

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (zOTsN)

166 Vast Left Wing Conspiracy

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (eOpVe)

167 It was the wrestling outfits. They scream "sodomize me!"

Posted by: Denny at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (GGCsk)

168 160
How does a high school wrestling coach turned politician have access to $3.5 million dollars???

High School Coach - $55K

Speaker of the House - $150k
-------------------------
Family Charity Organization

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (oDCMR)

169 High School Coach - $55K

Speaker of the House - $150k

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (8XRCm)

No insider trading rules...priceless

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (sWgE+)

170 Another problem: Hastert was a high school teacher and coach. Then he was a Congressman.

And he's got how many millions of dollars in his checking account?

Posted by: Furious George at May 29, 2015 03:16 PM (UlJ3l)

171 How does a high school wrestling coach turned politician have access to $3.5 million dollars???
High School Coach - $55K
Speaker of the House - $150k

Free from insider trading charges? Priceless.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:16 PM (nkjQe)

172 But yes, how hard is it for these idiots to not diddle children?

Is there some brain hardwire that makes politicians attracted to 15 year olds? It seems like the pedarest population quite large among politicians of all levels and parties.

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 03:16 PM (+bkaS)

173 You can guarantee the same things happening to the majority of repubes in congress. Easily explains why they toss Obama's salad on a regular basis. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: BFDEAL at May 29, 2015 03:17 PM (aHX05)

174 Hmm. I wrestled and my sons also did. There are some ghey guys that wrestle. I had a guy who wrestled at my college invite me over and basically tried to rape me.

Fags are strange people. That's all I have.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:17 PM (0FSuD)

175 Hastert made a lot of self dealing real estate deals and then was a lobbyist for years and that's when the big money rolls in

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:17 PM (zOTsN)

176 He should of owned up to what he was and switched parties.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:17 PM (zv9Ot)

177 No insider trading rules...priceless
Posted by: wrg500

See 171. GMTA.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:17 PM (nkjQe)

178 "How does a high school wrestling coach turned politician have access to $3.5 million dollars??? "

Sweet, sweet D.C. munny.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (LA7Cm)

179 153 Well that's too bad. I always thought he was fairly unobjectionable.
Posted by: chemjeff
____________________________

Absolutely and completely unobjectionable!

Posted by: All Beltway Democrats and the GOPe at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (UlJ3l)

180 And I think about all those FBI files that Hillary walked off with.

I only hope that once hillary is convinced that valjar, choom and the gang has completely deep six'ed her chances she'll go nuclear on them with what she has.

We could use a good stalin/trotsky purge. Feed it until they're both gone. ...dreaming happy thoughts

Posted by: bananaDream at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (/0fQX)

181 A lesson is never to put politicians up on a pederast.

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (sdxPm)

182 so just like slick willy, he didn't feel like he needed to tell everyone . . .
Posted by: chelsea danger at May 29, 2015 03:07 PM (pBUj2)

It isn't quite the same as slick willie, because Hastert went after minors. None of clinton's accusers were underage. (And yeah, I know about Clinton and pedophile isle, but nobody has come forward to say Clinton diddled them. And no girls ever will, if they value their lives.)

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (+XMAD)

183 The LA Times, huh.

Still sitting on that Khalidi tape, you hyperpartisan fucks?

Posted by: lamppost and piano wire at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (ZtFr+)

184 Awesome.

Really. We are in the very best of hands.

Sadly, those hands cannot keep it to themselves.

I am so glad that we abandoned any pretext of trying to hold the line on old-fashioned morality.

Posted by: Y-not at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (RWGcK)

185 Is there some brain hardwire that makes politicians attracted to 15 year olds?

Keep in mind he was a teacher when he did this. I think the correlation between huge percentages of teachers being pervs is the other way 'round--people attracted to underage kids go into teaching for easy access to kids.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (ZKzrr)

186 Does he have Afghan blood in him? Was he an altar boy?

Posted by: ass of AIDS at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (F1Z8f)

187 Honestly, they ought to just feed him to piranhas or throw him in the Tiber like the good old days. What kind of a fat, slob pervert goes after someone's kid for a bout of sodomy.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (GGCsk)

188 You shouldn't put pederasts on a pedestal.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (zv9Ot)

189 it should be a crime to lie to federal investigators. The statute of limitations has passed so this might be the only karmic pay back available. As for the guy who got the money? I don't begrudge him one penny. He will never be "right".

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (zOTsN)

190 Is everybody in government ghey?

Posted by: rickl at May 29, 2015 03:20 PM (zoehZ)

191 "eople attracted to underage kids go into teaching for easy access to kids."

Yeah. And ick.

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 03:20 PM (+bkaS)

192
Now we know why Hastert was a lobbyist for the Turkey Gov't. Remember MIDNIGHT EXPRESS? Assplay is a national pasttime in their wonderful country...

Posted by: BFDEAL at May 29, 2015 03:20 PM (aHX05)

193 n't put pederasts on a pedestal.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (zv9Ot)
You shouldn't put political pederasts on a pedestal.

Posted by: kraken at May 29, 2015 03:21 PM (sdxPm)

194 Hastert has two sons, taught, coached, and as a congressman liked to visit high schools

oh

there will be more

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:21 PM (zOTsN)

195 When a gay person turns out to be a boy-molesting pedophile, it is NEVER about his gayness, but rather ALWAYS about whatever other random position he held in life. At least according to the Gay Mafia and the MSM.

So you can never say "Gay pervert pedophiles infiltrate Catholic Church to gain access to trusting choirboys," but rather must say "Evil priests unfairly damage the reputation of the LBGT community through their despicable Christian hypocrisy."

This, of course, will turn into yet another round of "The Republicans are child molesters!" and never ever "Yet another gay guy (who happens to later have become a politician) is revealed as pedophile."

It must exhausting to endlessly prop up the narrative, fighting against the "common sense" perception of the human brain.

Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:22 PM (jBuUi)

196 All of the female gym teachers were tribades even back when I was in screwl.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:22 PM (zv9Ot)

197 I went to a fund raiser and Hasset was the feature. My gaydar went off. Too soft. Could not figure out how the fcuk he was elected Speaker?

Still have a $1000 photo of his fat ass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:22 PM (0FSuD)

198 Mys sons will not wrestle.

My daughters will not play softball or basketball.

That should cover it.

Posted by: Guy who wants grandchildren at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (vgIRn)

199 Still not sure why any of this was illegal. Withdrawing your own money? Fuck that. Lying to the FBI? Fuck those guys.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (xN1DB)

200 Not defending anyone or picking sides, but just because hush money was paid does not mean that there was blackmail. IOW the agreement to pay the hush money may have been initiated by Hastert, or may have come about by mutual agreement without an illicit threat of exposure.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (Eo+pp)

201 Here's a guy that was in charge of the entire federal budget and he gets nailed for structuring. You have to appreciate the irony. There had to be about 50 other ways to legally withdraw the money and conceal the final use. It ultimately non of the Feds business how you spend your own money and if he spent it on multiple things the charges could even be dropped. This was mistly about getting the story out. That's the real purpose.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (GGCsk)

202 Nip Sip, you need better judgement on what pics to buy. My pic of him has all of him in the picture. (rimshot)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (+aCe4)

203 Bush, Lott, Hastert.....the Republican leadership from last decade is the Gift that Keeps on Giving. Only a GOP this pathetic could lose the country to the Left.

Posted by: Beef at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (/q4N3)

204 >>it should be a crime to lie to federal investigators

Why? It is legal for them to lie to you to try and trick you into incriminating yourself. If you aren't under oath and are speaking to them under your own free will why should you be subject to prosecution for lying or even a failure of memory, or even a speako?

Posted by: Aviator at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (sQzB6)

205 30 Republican trumps Gay every time in Who Should We Stomp On Poker.
Posted by: Feh

Yep.

Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (jBuUi)

206 "

That should cover it."

Volleyball coach at my Jr High was arrested for having an "improper relationship" with an 8th grader.

Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (+bkaS)

207 Wow, what Thunder B and zombie said.

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (RJMhd)

208 Is buggering Congressional Pages illegal now?

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (zv9Ot)

209 Well, unlike Bernie Sanders, he wasnt into rapey rapey.

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (iQIUe)

210
ok we are past 200

What is everyone drinkin this weekend?

Posted by: Yo! at May 29, 2015 03:25 PM (q+zA9)

211 OT muzzies promise Keffar blood in the street in Phoenix. Draw ole Mo day. In Az you don't need to be a political crony to carry.

Posted by: just saying at May 29, 2015 03:25 PM (wkuqO)

212 "Still have a $1000 photo of his fat ass."

That's nothing compared to the person who has the $3.5M photo of him.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 29, 2015 03:25 PM (noWW6)

213 202
Nip Sip, you need better judgement on what pics to buy. My pic of him has all of him in the picture. (rimshot)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (+aCe4)

LOL. I am just in the corner. Actually he was very nice guy. I didn't take him home, I think he wanted me too.

He's a Bear!

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (0FSuD)

214
hmmmmm....... for $3.5 million.......

gah.... nevermind.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (8XRCm)

215 The President of the Boy Scouts of America could not be reached for comment in this matter.

Posted by: Jaws at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (Jktp1)

216
just saying, I think Phoenix gives Texas a run for the money on CCW numbers.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (m3iiU)

217 are we really going to forge into the righteousness of lying to criminal investigators and defending child molestors

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (zOTsN)

218 Fiddle about?

Posted by: Uncle Ernie at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (L52Oz)

219 I've known a wrestling coach. The only reason anyone becomes a wrestling coach is because they like to see young men shove their faces into some other guy's ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (Kpl3J)

220 This is similar to the Feds getting Al Capone on tax evasion. Statute of limitations is expired. Couldn't get Hastert for packing some poor kids fudge, but nail him for structuring.

Posted by: BFDEAL at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (aHX05)

221 215 He's probably off pitching a tent with some little boys.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (zv9Ot)

222 I found what I was looking for, and it was a bipartisan scandal:

On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee recommended that Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) be reprimanded for having engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages.[1]

"Reprimanded." Yeah, what a tough punishment.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (I8YZX)

223 I dunno maybe it takes a fat puck like Hastert to slow the everything is cool train.

Ugh that's all the upside I got.

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (RJMhd)

224 208
Is buggering Congressional Pages illegal now?

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 29, 2015 03:24 PM (zv9Ot)

Well, I don't get any of the cute ones any more.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pederast at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (0FSuD)

225 The real question in this High School romance is who was the pitcher and who the catcher? References to Hastert's big fat ass keep coming up.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (oDCMR)

226 Mitigation factors: he was being blackmailed and the money wasnt going to terrorism.

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (iQIUe)

227 We could use a good stalin/trotsky purge. Feed it until they're both gone. ...dreaming happy thoughts
Posted by: bananaDream at May 29, 2015 03:18 PM (/0fQX)

The problem is it never stops with pols. Purges always end up taking the lives of many, many innocent people.

But yeah - I used to live in DC. Parts of it are very beautiful and yet I find myself wishing that every single decent or innocent person there (like the Morons and 'ettes who live in the area) could be evacuated and then the place would be hit with one of those bombs that leaves buildings intact.

Because while it would be a wonderful thing to lose all those pols, lobbyists, bureaucrats, and other leaches, I'd sure hate to see the Phillips Gallery and the Air and Space Museum get destroyed.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (+XMAD)

228 Posted by: just saying at May 29, 2015 03:25 PM (wkuqO)

I can just see 2 guys pull up jump out of the cat yells "Allahu Achbar" 200 people turn pulls pistols and point. Arab faces turn white "ohhh, shit".

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:28 PM (sWgE+)

229 184
Really. We are in the very best of hands.

Sadly, those hands cannot keep it to themselves.

Posted by: Y-not at May 29, 2015 03:19 PM (RWGcK)

Thread winner.

Posted by: rickl at May 29, 2015 03:28 PM (zoehZ)

230 Wait what the hell is that Boy Scout thing I've been trying to ignore. Shit.

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:28 PM (RJMhd)

231 Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:27 PM (oDCMR)

I really do not wish to contemplate the pitcher/catcher question when it comes to Hastert.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:29 PM (+XMAD)

232 he never would have made any of that money if the world had known that he was buggering his students

he wouldn't have been a congressman, he wouldn't have been speaker, and he wouldn't have been a lobbyist

I hope he loses every penny

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:29 PM (zOTsN)

233 Maybe this explains the curious betrayals by Boehner, McConnell, etc. since winning last November.

The Dems have dug up the dirt on them.

Too bad Hastert and Foley can't be reprogrammed to want to molest each other and leave the kids alone.

Posted by: Black maler in Chief at May 29, 2015 03:29 PM (F1Z8f)

234 It must exhausting to endlessly prop up the narrative, fighting against the "common sense" perception of the human brain.
Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:22 PM (jBuUi)

Yup. See also 'gay advocate' train engineer. Washed from the front pages of time. Move along, comrade, nothing to see here.

But he killed a bunch of people! Why is this story so suddenly, irrevocably devoid of interest?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 29, 2015 03:29 PM (xQX/f)

235 DailyKos has multiple stories covering Hastert's blackmail and not a one covering Bernie Sanders rape and BDSM essay. Not a one either on the Clinton Crime Family.

Kind of amazing.

Posted by: MTF at May 29, 2015 03:30 PM (DkJ4E)

236 Denny doesn't have a 'wide stance'

Posted by: Larry Craig at May 29, 2015 03:30 PM (q+zA9)

237 Never pay blackmail. It's going to get out anyway. And it's hard to deny if you're willing to pay $3.5 million.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at May 29, 2015 03:30 PM (K+ZHC)

238 wrg500, remember that scene in the subway in the second Predator movie? The one where those guys try to rob someone? It really would be like that.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 29, 2015 03:30 PM (m3iiU)

239 There had to be about 50 other ways to legally withdraw the money and conceal the final use...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 29, 2015 03:23 PM (GGCsk)

I would have arranged to have Petra Nemcova give him a lifetime achievement award seven years in a row. Then I would have spooged on her dress. Amateur.

Posted by: Slick Willy at May 29, 2015 03:30 PM (nFdGS)

240 My daughters will not play softball or basketball.
That should cover it.

Nor field hockey, or volleyball, or soccer.......

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (nkjQe)

241 >>are we really going to forge into the righteousness of lying to criminal investigators and defending child molestors

Posted by: ThunderB

I'm not defending child molesters. Criminal investigators can go fuck themselves and if they don't like that then they shouldn't have abused their power.

Posted by: Aviator at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (sQzB6)

242 >>It isn't quite the same as slick willie, because Hastert went after minors.

Except we don't know any details yet. Does anyone know how old the kids he taught were? There is a wide difference in how wrong consensual sex with a 17 year old is and rape of a 14 year old. Not that either are right because they aren't, but people do have a tendency to inflate accusations sometimes, even when there is an actual police report not just gossip.

Of course, he did pay them over a million in blackmail, so it's likely pretty bad.

It could also be lies, theoretically, although I wouldn't bet on it. There is likely no proof at all at this point either way.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (lIU4e)

243 What else should I be

All apologies

What else should I say

Everyone is gay

Posted by: Zombie Kurt Cobain at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (L52Oz)

244 ok we are past 200
What is everyone drinkin this weekend?

Liquids.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (nkjQe)

245 Why didn't he just set up a sham Haitian Relief Charity?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (zv9Ot)

246 Posted by: Zombie Kurt Cobain at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (L52Oz)

----

so...... Hastert smells like teen spirit???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (8XRCm)

247 Hastert should have run the payments through the Clinton Charity. The FBI would have dropped the investigation in a NY minute.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (oDCMR)

248 are we really going to forge into the righteousness of lying to criminal investigators and defending child molestors

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:26 PM (zOTsN)

Some may, but I say that way lies madness and refuse to step foot on that road. My partisanship has limits.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Salutes All Who Have Protected Our American Right To Gripe! at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (hLRSq)

249 he could have said nothing. He could have invoked his right to remain silent. They didn't abuse their power by questioning him. They also didn't write the 40 year old law

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (zOTsN)

250 You know it's not like he let someone drown in a car.

So be kind.

Posted by: Zombie Ted at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (0FSuD)

251 3.5 million, wasn't it?

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (RJMhd)

252 Boehner is easily blackmailable because of his alchoholism and womanizing. McConnell I don't know. He's probably a fudge packer, too...

Posted by: BFDEAL at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (aHX05)

253 Kind of amazing.

If by "amazing" you mean "totally predictable."

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (ZKzrr)

254 Teen Spirit. I like it. That would make a great deodorant.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (zv9Ot)

255 Here in the SF Bay Area, there was a relatively recent criminal trial of a longtime high profile child psychiatrist.

A bunch of former patients of whom had come forward and accused the guy of being a homosexual pedophile who had repeatedly molested them under color of medical authority.

Ended in a mistrial. Last I heard, the D.A. was debating whether to empanel a new jury. But the testimony presented the first time round was chilling. This guy had a trail of obvious "tells" a mile long that should have been picked up on.

He apparently insisted on doing full unclothed physical examinations of underaged boys who had been placed in his care. Someone in the local psychiatric community noticed this early on, and had questioned it, and the pedo doc said that he had been trained that way during his psychatric residency. Which apparently ended the matter. Oh, that's all right, then.

The former head of his residency program was asked about this assertion in court and said -- incredulously -- that of course they had never trained him in any such thing.

The really awful part of all this is that some of these boys had been sent to the pedo psychiatrist for therapy following previous episodes of molestation by other pedoes. No escape.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (noWW6)

256 so...... Hastert smells like teen spirit???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:32 PM (8XRCm)

Teen spritzer.

Posted by: Zombie Kurt Cobain at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (L52Oz)

257 Yet Billy Jeff can frolic at Pedo-Sex-Slave-Island and nothing happens. Sometimes I hate this country.

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (9221z)

258 Boehners I've Known

An Autobiography

By Dennis Hastert

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (oFCZn)

259 233 Maybe this explains the curious betrayals by Boehner, McConnell, etc. since winning last November.

The Dems have dug up the dirt on them. "

I find that entirely plausible. And yet in the end, I'll bet the Dems still lower the boom on them and ruin their lives.

They're ones to put the knife in and twist it.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (+XMAD)

260 But he killed a bunch of people! Why is this story so suddenly, irrevocably devoid of interest?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 29, 2015 03:29 PM (xQX/f)

There's no missing blonde girl; that's the only way to anchor a story for longer than a few days. If you think squirrels have a low attention span, check out the cable news.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Salutes All Who Have Protected Our American Right To Gripe! at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (hLRSq)

261 3.5 million.

I know I know ... but Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank and Bill Clinton etc etc etc

I think we are better than that. Hastert should be in jail

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

262 >>174 Hmm. I wrestled and my sons also did. There are some ghey guys that wrestle. I had a guy who wrestled at my college invite me over and basically tried to rape me.

But after 3-4 minutes of heated crotch rubbing, you left!

Posted by: That guy from that Thread at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (ycu3n)

263 Past 250! Gun Thread!

I have one of these with a 30 round mag. 30 rounds in a pistol!

Don't be coming around at night.

http://tinyurl.com/om7rj8r

Posted by: Zombie Ted at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (0FSuD)

264 Has anyone used the phrase "Homosexual Predator" yet? I'm betting not. It's a phrase only used by h8trs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (F2IAQ)

265
How come we never hear that much about Democrat sex scandles?

Posted by: Yo! at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (q+zA9)

266 I think we are better than that. Hastert should be in jail

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

Agreed, but so should the blackmailer if it was indeed blackmail.

Last time I checked that was a crime.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (oFCZn)

267 He apparently insisted on doing full unclothed physical examinations of underaged boys who had been placed in his care. Someone in the local psychiatric community noticed this early on, and had questioned it, and the pedo doc said that he had been trained that way during his psychatric residency. Which apparently ended the matter. Oh, that's all right, then.

Yo doc, brain's up here. That's all you need to concern yourself with.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (nkjQe)

268 off ted sock

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (0FSuD)

269 Just imagine what they have on Miss Lindsay....

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (+XMAD)

270 Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is sucking the blood from a Guatemalan street urchin she had flown in for a snack using donations from the Russian mafia and George Soros.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (oVJmc)

Funny, because it's true.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (0bXhD)

271 Hastert should be in jail

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

So should half the people on Capital Hill.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (sWgE+)

272 The Lumberjack Slam isn't just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: Denny's at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (8ZskC)

273 oh man, a politician from the 90's with a sex scandal that fails to disclose financials.

Posted by: california red at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (UyEG4)

274 150 I wonder if Boehner has nightmares about someone having pictures of him doing something similar while blackout drunk.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at May 29, 2015 03:14 PM (zauWW)

What are you talking about. He bends conservatives over and fucks them in public every day.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (z/Ubi)

275 I hate to be all bigoted and stuff but 3.5 million is pretty hard to explain.

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:37 PM (RJMhd)

276 265
How come we never hear that much about Democrat sex scandles?
Posted by: Yo! at May 29, 2015 03:35 PM (q+zA9)

Because they're not scandals so much as sexual triumphs.

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:37 PM (9221z)

277 Denny doesn't have a 'wide stance'

Denny is a wide stance.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 29, 2015 03:37 PM (659DL)

278 >>I'd sure hate to see the Phillips Gallery and the Air and Space Museum get destroyed.

I like the freer gallery too.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:37 PM (lIU4e)

279 In the 1950s the term "wrestling" meant homosexual sex.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 29, 2015 03:37 PM (oFCZn)

280
Whew, something new for the news people,
I'm up again in 2020, vote for me

Posted by: Thad Cochran at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (q+zA9)

281 for all those throwing around the word blackmail so easily
how much is your mental health worth
I have prosecuted serial molesters and seen their adult male victims. They are messed up for life. For life

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

282 So basically he was blackmailed, harassed by the DOJ for paying the blackmailer, and is now having the information released anyway.

That about right?
Posted by: Lauren at May 29, 2015 02:55 PM (+bkaS)

Worse, he probably doesn't even fap to the memory anymore.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (0bXhD)

283 265

How come we never hear that much about Democrat sex scandles?
-------------
The term "sex scandal" never applies to them because the current Dems are children of the Sixties and Seventies who believe in banging anyone or anything they want, with no consequences or questions asked.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (ry4ab)

284 There's no missing blonde girl; that's the only way to anchor a story for longer than a few days. If you think squirrels have a low attention span, check out the cable
news.

Who was Natalee Holloway?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (nkjQe)

285 266 I think we are better than that. Hastert should be in jail

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

I'd airdrop him into occupied Syria, and see how long he lasts with ISIS. Probably as long as it takes them to come up with some inventive and medieval way to off him.

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (9221z)

286 Cicero wins again...

Lumberjack slam

Oh gawd.

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (RJMhd)

287 Did someone say lumberjack?

http://tinyurl.com/7ncl8d6

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (0FSuD)

288 Worse, he probably doesn't even fap to the memory anymore.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (0bXhD)

At his age his lucky he can fap at all

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (sWgE+)

289 At least he didn't do it in the road.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (zv9Ot)

290 Here's a horrible secret I've never mentioned to anyone in real life:

Years back I had a friend/colleague who was also a writer, and one of her specialty topics was sports writing about girl's softball teams.

This friend also was gay, but that was an irrelevant detail, or so I thought.

Once, she brought one of her friends to an office party, another woman (sic) she introduced as "Gail."

After several glasses of wine, I wandered back over to their conversation, and they were pretty openly talking about how high-school softball teams were "safe havens" for teenage lesbians. And as the drunkenness increased and inhibitions lowered, the innuendos and double entendres about the sexual appeal of such teenage lesbians increased.

I'm not sure what I said that elicited the response, but at one point my now-drunk friend turned and said to me, "Why do you think I write about girls' softball all the time? It gives me access. And they start to trust me because I don't just interview them, I offer consolation and understanding. I get in their heads, and then..." followed by them both laughing.

Basically, she just admitted that she was a sexual predator on teenage girls.

As they departed, I caught the last name of her friend -- "Rubin."

I forced myself to forget abpout the incident, years passed, and I saw an article about a feminist lesbian activist professor who aggressively promoted and defended pedophilia and "ephebophilia" (sexual activity with adolescents) as a wonderful therapeutic thing to do.

Her name? "Gayle Rubin."

I googled her picture, and yep, it was the same "Gail" I had met years earlier.

I became a bit queasy at it dawned on me my one-time friend (whom I no longer worked with, and we drifted apart) was likely a member of a lesbian child-molesting ring -- one with an academic "philosophical basis" defending their behavior.

It's out there, my friends. Do not doubt it.

Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (jBuUi)

291 PREDICTION: Hastert's downfall will be that he failed to 1099 the blackmailer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (8ZskC)

292 Just imagine what they have on Miss Lindsay....
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:36 PM (+XMAD)

-----

Miss Lindsay would be the former wrestler.....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (8XRCm)

293 Dems are children of the Sixties and Seventies who believe in banging anyone or anything they want, with no consequences or questions asked.

Even Pelosi?

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (sWgE+)

294
Was it criminal sexual misconduct? Doesn't seem so or the feds would be on it. So homosexual love is now a crime. Oh wait, paying your old homo lover with your own money, crime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (ODxAs)

295 The really awful part of all this is that some of these boys had been sent to the pedo psychiatrist for therapy following previous episodes of molestation by other pedoes. No escape.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 29, 2015 03:33 PM (noWW6)

Damn that's awful. I hope he at least lost his license.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:41 PM (lIU4e)

296 There are millions of $50,000 bank transactions every day. Not many lead to letters from the IRS and FBI, much less investigations.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at May 29, 2015 03:41 PM (NwZNW)

297 @42: "Odd how they make an exception to "everyone should fuck anything anytime
anywhere, and tell you all about it when they're done!" for
Republicans, conservatives, and Christians."

Nah, it's actually relatively straight forward, since most Republicans, conservatives, and Christians are (at least on paper, in far too many cases) against such things. That's the thing about moral positions, once you stake one out, you're very vulnerable to attack whenever you stray from it.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 29, 2015 03:41 PM (amQXf)

298 In the intervening year Hastert was spared a humiliating trial, kept his job, his wife, his kids, got elected to Congress, became very powerful and then very rich

I do not feel sorry for him

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:41 PM (zOTsN)

299 Psst. There are better ways to deal with these unfortunate situations.

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at May 29, 2015 03:41 PM (8ZskC)

300 TRIGGER WARNING!

Jonah (who once wrote a book about Progressives) mentions SMOD today in his "newsletter", and suggests a fate worse than SMOD, specifically required mating with Zombie Helen Thomas, might be the alternative.

It goes downhill from there.

Posted by: MTF at May 29, 2015 03:42 PM (DkJ4E)

301 Psst. There are better ways to deal with these unfortunate situations.
Posted by: Justice John Roberts

Adopt?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:43 PM (nkjQe)

302 This molestation is so decades old, dude.

Posted by: Bizarro Tommy Vietor at May 29, 2015 03:43 PM (F1Z8f)

303 In my own defense, I didn't realize "keep the lipstick off your dipstick" applied to boys.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at May 29, 2015 03:43 PM (0bXhD)

304 Who was Natalee Holloway?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:39 PM (nkjQe)

The blonde girl who dominated cable news one summer when she disappeared in Aruba.

Hey - anyone remember the summer of the shark? And Chandra Levy (not a blonde girl, but still a girl)?

Cable news is not high brow entertainment.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Salutes All Who Have Protected Our American Right To Gripe! at May 29, 2015 03:43 PM (hLRSq)

305
whut?
My Chief of staff sayz I can't be on the interwebs.
She is so nice, she even helps me vote the way my constituants want me to.

Posted by: Thad Cochran at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (q+zA9)

306 Cthulhu vs. SMOD

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (zv9Ot)

307 for all those throwing around the word blackmail so easily how much is your mental health worth

How right you are. They should be paid millions! Because they'll need every penny.

Minus my 1/3rd cut, of course.

Posted by: 1-800-LAWYER at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (xQX/f)

308 for all those throwing around the word blackmail so easily
how much is your mental health worth
I have prosecuted serial molesters and seen their adult male victims. They are messed up for life. For life
Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

It's still blackmail even if the blackmailer is completely understandable and sympathetic.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (lIU4e)

309 This story just seems off.
If the hush payments really did not start until 2007 when Hastert was out of congress his victim/blackmailer must A) be the most patient person in the world. B) have been getting paid by a 3rd party who was getting favors from the SOTH until then or C) this is not that old and Hastert is paying to protect a kid of his from something they did or is paying to hush up something he did after leaving congress not way back in his distant past.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (dkExz)

310 statute of limitations in Illinois passed. He cannot go to jail

unless there is someone "fresher"

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:45 PM (zOTsN)

311 Minus my 1/3rd cut, of course.
Posted by: 1-800-LAWYER at May 29, 2015 03:44 PM (xQX/f)

Only a third? Amatuer

Posted by: Peter Angelos at May 29, 2015 03:45 PM (9221z)

312 @290

Oh, you mean like this? http://tinyurl.com/bo3ldpm

And the Boy Scouts want to have ghey leaders? How's that going to work out?

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 29, 2015 03:45 PM (0FSuD)

313 When Republicans get caught up in a sex scandal--or even when they use a public rest room and tap their feet, it's not the sex part that is the crime. According to the MSM, it's the "hypocrisy" that they're guilty of (even if they are not a social conservative)...This is why they yawn over sex scandals involving Democrats...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (BIScD)

314 Well, it is blackmail.

Why not just sue?

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (3ey7z)

315
Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (jBuUi)

dude, that is aweful.

I know of a straight colege womens softball player and she said getting oogled is the shower was grody.

Posted by: Thad Cochran at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (q+zA9)

316
If the person decides to blackmail the perp, his mental health is just fine and in fact shows reasoning ability.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (ODxAs)

317 its settling a lawsuit before its filed. Which happens every damn day. And Hastert agreed to pay this guy in installments, every six weeks, for a total of 3.5 mill. Someone wrote an agreement like that up. Like a lawyer

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (zOTsN)

318 /sock

Posted by: Yo! at May 29, 2015 03:46 PM (q+zA9)

319 torque - I'm going to raise the same objection that I always do when the term 'Pedo', or 'Pedophile' is used. This usage has only come into vogue because GLAAD et al have pressed the media to use it in order to deflect from the attention that might be focused on homosexuals.

A 'pedophile' is one who takes advantage of a pre-pubescent child, male or female. Virtually all of the incidents that make the news involve post-pubescent boys preyed upon by male homosexuals.

The ghey community does not want that fact brought to public attention, so they deflect a little (and lean heavily on the media) and make use of the the 'pedo gambit'. Thereby obscuring the fact that the people that we are talking about are NOT the truly sick, twisted individuals that would rape an infant, but rather active, practicing homosexuals.

Using the term 'pedophile' to describe these guys, actually gives the ghey community some cover for their at least tacit complicity. These people are not pedophiles, they are homosexual predators.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:47 PM (F2IAQ)

320 "....a fate worse than SMOD, specifically required mating with Zombie Helen Thomas, might be the alternative."

*gack*
I shall now excavate my skull with an ice scream scoop.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Salutes All Who Have Protected Our American Right To Gripe! at May 29, 2015 03:47 PM (hLRSq)

321 There is a wide difference in how wrong consensual sex with a 17 year old is and rape of a 14 year old.
Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:31 PM (lIU4e)

No, there isn't a wide difference. In fact, there is no difference at all. Hastert was a coach, an authority figure entrusted by both school and parents to teach, guide and even protect those children. Instead, he sexually violated one or more of those kids. Given the official authority figure arrangement in the situation, it doesn't matter if the child is over 17 or whatever the age of consent is wherever the hell the molestation or rape took place.

Personally, I believe recividist pedophiles should be subject to a three-strike rule: three strikes and they're dead. It's the only known cure for their condition.

Posted by: troyriser at May 29, 2015 03:48 PM (S08gh)

322 @66: "expecting consistency from Dems is one way to guarantee continual disappointment."

The Dems are very consistent, just not from the GOP point of view. If you consider *their* worldview, however, it is easy to understand...

Dems work hard for the betterment of society, the advancement of social justice, and the uplifting of the poor and downtrodden. Thus, any wrongdoing is simply a peccadillo that, while maybe regrettable, does nothing to take away from their great works and high moral ideals.

Republicans work to ensure unfairness, re-enslave blacks and women, destroy the environment, loot the working class, and impose theocracy. They therefore have no mitigating factors when it comes to their crimes. Their very existence is a crime.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 29, 2015 03:48 PM (amQXf)

323 It's out there, my friends. Do not doubt it.
Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (jBuUi)

Girls softball teams have been havens for lesbianism for forever.

I love baseball and thought about joining a girl's softball team when I was a freshman - until I met the coach. She had a crew cut and a mustache, and wore a man's sleeveless undershirt under her blouse. My gut, being hetero, immediately screamed at me, "No, Donna, no, no, no."

Well, that and the fact I pitched, hit and fielded my position like crap.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 03:49 PM (+XMAD)

324 He was a Greco-Roman wrestling coach. More Greco than Roman, though.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 29, 2015 03:49 PM (+jijM)

325 These people are not pedophiles, they are homosexual predators.

Most predators come under Fish & Wildlife Departments and have open seasons when they can be hunted. Why not these?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:50 PM (nkjQe)

326
Team Mascot Name was the Trojans.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2015 03:50 PM (ODxAs)

327 Here's the thing, Hastert has to be a closeted gay man if we're talking about a male. I don't think truly straight men molest teenagers/kids of their own gender.

I know it's politically incorrect, but that's why organizations like the Boy Scouts have a prohibition on gay scoutmasters. It's inviting danger.

I would be very wary of any older guy that was gay and worked around boys.

I also wouldn't allow straight men to be in situations where they are in a position like that with young girls like say a girls basketball team coach.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 03:50 PM (vRHxQ)

328 this is old, at least by reports

I think the guy heard about the Sandusky case, and called up "Denny", who started making payments

It is not uncommon for male victims of sex abuse to hide it for years. While they drink, and drug and question their sexuality. And, I know you will be shocked to hear this, they don't always come from the most functional families. See dysfunctional families are what make children and teens vulnerable to this sort of thing, and also keep them quiet

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

329 He was a Greco-Roman wrestling coach.

Naa, Greco-Roman wrestling is all above the waist. He was more freestyle.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:51 PM (sWgE+)

330 241 >>are we really going to forge into the righteousness of lying to criminal investigators and defending child molestors
Posted by: ThunderB

These are completely separate issues - do you not see that?

'Structuring' is a bullshit offense that shouldn't even be a crime and so lying about is also a bullshit offense. That has nothing to do with whether or not Hastert is a child molester.

It's a rare bad law that has *no* occasional positive benefits but that doesn't mean that it's not a bad law.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 03:51 PM (wqVD1)

331 Just realize that Hastert was acting as a mentor in the Classical Greek sense to wit:

"At the height of the Greek culture, according to the social custom,
an older married man was expected to take a younger boy as a kind
of squire and have sexual relations with him. Today, the West would
call him a bisexual pederast. The older man would act as a mentor
to the young boy and train him in manhood. He would even find
the young boy a bride when he reached marriageable age. Then he
would find another boy and start the process again." -Whitehead

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:52 PM (9221z)

332 Personally, I believe recividist pedophiles should be subject to a three-strike rule: three strikes and they're dead.

Something related I was reading earlier.
http://is.gd/az8YqO

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 29, 2015 03:52 PM (ZKzrr)

333 Most predators come under Fish & Wildlife Departments and have open seasons when they can be hunted. Why not these?
Posted by: rickb223
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* issues permit and tags *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:52 PM (F2IAQ)

334 319---Bingo.
The Catholic Priest scandal was all about a few ghey priests fooling around with post-pubescent boys who they identified (usually correctly) as probably being gay.
The MSM makes believe that this has nothing to do with anything ghey so they make it sound like they are diddling little tykes---which is very rare.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 03:53 PM (BIScD)

335 * issues permit and tags *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:52 PM (F2IAQ)

And a 20 minute head start.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 29, 2015 03:53 PM (sWgE+)

336 nood

Posted by: Yo! at May 29, 2015 03:53 PM (q+zA9)

337 Guy Mowhawk

Damn it. That's true?

Posted by: River Guide at May 29, 2015 03:53 PM (RJMhd)

338 Has no one ever learned from any of my writings?

"That if once you have paid him the Danegeld,
You never get rid of the Dane."

Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at May 29, 2015 03:54 PM (amQXf)

339 I know it's politically incorrect, but that's why organizations like the Boy Scouts USED TO have a prohibition on gay scoutmasters. It's inviting danger.
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Edited for correctness, as of this week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:54 PM (F2IAQ)

340 * issues permit and tags *
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Awesome shot Mike! That has to be 400 yards! And thru the passenger window too!

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 29, 2015 03:54 PM (nkjQe)

341
I still wonder if the kid was 18 and consenting.

Anywho, going to jail because you want to give someone money seems pretty bullshit to me, these laws were effected to get drug dealing money launderers, not paying off bribes. PS - I don't even like Hastert, but its still bs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 29, 2015 03:54 PM (ODxAs)

342 Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:40 PM (jBuUi)

That's an aspect of same sex bent that the media never mentions.... The serial child sexual abuse and its near universal proliferation in that group.

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 29, 2015 03:54 PM (eOpVe)

343
They must pay wrestling coaches a lot if he can pay 3.5M in blackmail.

Posted by: Frankly at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (Brx5Q)

344 Is the poor vetting of GOP candidates a problem or a feature?

Posted by: scrood at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (3b9U4)

345 Aet

Aviator was saying that lying to investigators was a bullshit charge. Investigators did not abuse their authority. They were given it. Its an old law. Don't like it, call congress. The investigators didn't write the law

And I can distinguish very clearly between lying to investigators and invoking my right to remain silent. Which is what he should have done

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)

346 The Catholic Priest scandal was all about a few ghey priests fooling around with post-pubescent boys who they identified (usually correctly) as probably being gay.
The MSM makes believe that this has nothing to do with anything ghey so they make it sound like they are diddling little tykes---which is very rare.
Posted by: JoeF
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Yes, exactly. My point at 319

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (F2IAQ)

347 >>Personally, I believe recividist pedophiles

Sex with a 17 year old is not pedophilia. In many places, it's not even illegal.

Yes, it's wrong for a teacher or coach to do that. But 17 is almost an adult and there is some decision making there as well.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (lIU4e)

348 339.

Wow, I had no idea. I knew about the dust up, but didn't know they caved.

Regardless of the official prohibition, at the end of the day, a parent is going to have to make that call at the individual troop level.

I think you'd have to be crazy to let a gay scoutmaster take your young boys on camping trips.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 03:56 PM (vRHxQ)

349 All this means is now every Republican candidate will be asked if they agree with Hastert's decisions to diddle young boys. Great.

Posted by: What, me worry? at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (vDEpI)

350 The Catholic Priest scandal was all about a few ghey priests fooling around with post-pubescent boys who they identified (usually correctly) as probably being gay.

Usually it was the abused that turned 'em teh ghey.
Read this and pass it around

http://www.mygenes.co.nz/download.htm

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (9221z)

351 how do we know this guy was 17

you enter high school at 15. I haven't seen anything with this guys age

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (zOTsN)

352 334 319---Bingo.
The Catholic Priest scandal was all about a few ghey priests fooling around with post-pubescent boys who they identified (usually correctly) as probably being gay.
The MSM makes believe that this has nothing to do with anything ghey so they make it sound like they are diddling little tykes---which is very rare.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 03:53 PM (BIScD)

AND the church hierarchy being deeply complicit in covering up the sexual abuse, shifting predatory priests around, and keeping it from coming to the attention of authorities. That's why it's a church scandal and not an individual priest scandal.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (wqVD1)

353 All this means is now every Republican candidate will be asked if they agree with Hastert's decisions to diddle young boys. Great.
Posted by: What, me worry? at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (vDEpI)
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What will be great is that half of them will phuck up the answer.

Posted by: RioBravo at May 29, 2015 03:58 PM (NUqwG)

354 349 All this means is now every Republican candidate will be asked if they agree with Hastert's decisions to diddle young boys. Great.
Posted by: What, me worry? at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (vDEpI)

They can just answer "No, but what about Billy Jeff going to pedo-island and taking tons of money from pedo-Epstein? How many other Dems have done that too?"

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 03:58 PM (9221z)

355 @147: "He may also be liable under State law for the sex crime of the student
but that depends on the statute of limitations in what ever State (I
presume IL). But that is not a federal law."

Wonder if he ever took the kid to any out-of-state wrestling tournaments. That could easily be used to make it Federal - transporting a minor over state lines for purposes of naughtiness and all that.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 29, 2015 03:59 PM (amQXf)

356 how do we know this guy was 17

you enter high school at 15. I haven't seen anything with this guys age

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:57 PM (zOTsN)

We don't know anything at all. I just said that I would see force of a 14 year old (or even grooming type behavior) as different from consensual sex with a 17 year old. Not ok, but not as severe. Especially if Hastert was fairly young himself at the time, which I may have read somewhere.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 04:00 PM (lIU4e)

357 See dysfunctional families are what make children and teens vulnerable to this sort of thing, and also keep them quiet
Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

I recall reading that the victims of priests were usually the sons of single mothers. The mothers welcomed the interest a priest took in their sons because they felt the boys needed a male father figure and role model in their lives. Boys do, but they got sick perverts taking advantage of them instead.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if gay and straight child molesters all do that - zero in on the fatherless kids. It is also much less risky when you don't have to deal with a man who might get suspicious at all the interest you're showing in his son. Single moms are more trusting and also, frequently, very busy trying to carry the adult responsibilities by themselves.

The conclusion: being the child of a single mom places you in more danger of being selected by a perv, even if your mom is a decent person doing her best.

So hey, let's continue to degrade marriage and promote "The Life of Julia" as the best way to raise kids, although we have plenty of evidence it's not!

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 04:00 PM (+XMAD)

358 My sexual identity was cemented into my brain -- with a combination of Weldwood adhesive and quick-setting Portland cement -- by the age of 13. I grow weary of 17 year old males claiming -- whatever homosexual act they performed or had performed on them -- has irretrievably sent them down some road they weren't already headed at Olympic trial speed. So they now need millions of dollars. Cash.

Yeah, it's f*cked up that men take advantage of boys. But it's also insane to assume these 'boys' didn't know the difference between getting their c*cks sucked by some perv and the infinitesimally more interesting aspects of a woman's body.

A pox on both their houses.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 29, 2015 04:01 PM (xQX/f)

359 I went to Catholic School for 12 years (including 4 at an all boys HS) and the only two "stories" I ever heard--and I heard them years later --involved one priest and two 17 year olds--both of whom were thought by a us at the time to be gay. One sued later on for money.
I'm not saying the Church "handled" these things correctly, but they handled it according to prevailing LIBERAL thought of the '60's--'70's era, ie. second chances, "rehabilitation", etc.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:01 PM (BIScD)

360 >>I wouldn't at all be surprised if gay and straight child molesters all do that - zero in on the fatherless kids.

Or their own kids.

But yes, I think having a single parent probably puts you at more risk.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 04:02 PM (lIU4e)

361 @161: "I said, "Diddling a boy during his wrestling coach days."

Ding ding ding ding, says the LA Times.

Don't you mean "Ding-a-ling diddling, says the LA Times"?

Posted by: zombie at May 29, 2015 03:15 PM (jBuUi)"
My ding-a-ling,My ding-a-ling,Turns out he played with my ding-a-ling

Posted by: Dennis Hastert (feat. Chuck Berry) at May 29, 2015 04:02 PM (amQXf)

362 I'd love to know the breakdown of crime stats with regard to child molestation and gender.

I'd be willing to bet it's to 10 times the cases of man on boy vs an adult man and a young girl.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:02 PM (vRHxQ)

363 Aviator was saying that lying to investigators was a bullshit charge. Investigators did not abuse their authority. They were given it. Its an old law. Don't like it, call congress. The investigators didn't write the law
And I can distinguish very clearly between lying to investigators and invoking my right to remain silent. Which is what he should have done
Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)

Note that none of the above has anything to do with pedophiles which you tied it to.

Also prosecutors are not automatons - they have discretion about whether to file charges especially when it comes to ill-defined bullshit offenses.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:03 PM (wqVD1)

364 Sex with a 17 year old is not pedophilia. In many places, it's not even illegal.

Yes, it's wrong for a teacher or coach to do that. But 17 is almost an adult and there is some decision making there as well.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 03:55 PM (lIU4e)

Exactly. Missouri law, and many other states the age of consent is 17. I do find it odd that it is illegal for a school teacher to sex up their over 17 students. Against school policy? Code of Ethics violation? You betcha! But a crime?

It makes no sense. The manager of McDonalds where said 17 year old works can boink his/her employee. But if a teacher does it, that's a crime.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 29, 2015 04:03 PM (TOk1P)

365 >>I'd be willing to bet it's to 10 times the cases of man on boy vs an adult man and a young girl.
Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:02 PM (vRHxQ)

Seriously? I highly doubt it.

Posted by: Lea at May 29, 2015 04:04 PM (lIU4e)

366 Hey. You guys know what is a great idea in light of this?

Letting gays serve as boy scout masters.

I don't think gays have any greater desire than straits do as far as pedophila is concerned, its just not a good idea to put foxes in charge of henhouses. I would definitely not put myself or any other strait male in charge of a high school girl overnight trip. It just opens the door to problems up to and including false accusations.

Posted by: Jollyroger at May 29, 2015 04:04 PM (t06LC)

367 So he commits a crime, and he gets blackmailed for it, which is a crime, and we catch them at it because he tried to dodge the federal reporting requirements for cash withdrawals, and you're hollering Bullshit, let him go?

This is partly what those laws are there to catch.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 29, 2015 04:04 PM (8rRE+)

368 I had a case where the guy would actually ask who the single mothers were, ask them out for a date, bond with the teen boy, groom him, give him positive attention, sleepaways, trips, gifts, then buggering. He even talked some of the mothers into making him the kids guardian and they he would show them the world and pay for college. He got two boys living with him that way. He never paid for college. We found out when one of the boys was in therapy in college

these young men are never ever the same

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 04:05 PM (zOTsN)

369 Jollyroger

Well said! Watch him ask for community service hours.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 29, 2015 04:05 PM (8rRE+)

370 @188: "You shouldn't put pederasts on a pedestal."

It all depends on how forcefully you do it.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at May 29, 2015 04:06 PM (amQXf)

371 lying to investigators is not an ill defined crime

it is also not a bullshit charge

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 04:06 PM (zOTsN)

372 Chris Balz what those "laws were meant to catch"--in the "structured withdrawal" bit was laundering drug money. This is a situation where Hastert apparently just couldn't say "bugger off".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 29, 2015 04:08 PM (Sda6L)

373
I'd love to know the breakdown of crime stats with regard to child molestation and gender.

I'd be willing to bet it's to 10 times the cases of man on boy vs an adult man and a young girl.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:02 PM (vRHxQ)

I have the numbers somewhere, but I think you are not correct. Overwhelming number of cases involve in-home incidents (bio parents or more frequently, step-parents and live-ins), and most of those are male adults with female victims.

But outside the home incidents? Yeah, I think you are right. It's predominantly male/male.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 29, 2015 04:08 PM (TOk1P)

374 We're confused about why you're hatefully judgmentally describing this as "criminal misconduct"? This is what we typically call "healthy teacher/student outreach".........unless it's a man and a female student. Then it becomes "Rapety-Rape Patriarchy Maintenance" and a serious crime........unless the man is a Democrat. Then it becomes "female trailer-trash seduces innocent, big-hearted supporter of Progressive causes".......

Posted by: The NEA at May 29, 2015 04:08 PM (sCHw2)

375 I'm not saying the Church "handled" these things correctly, but they handled it according to prevailing LIBERAL thought of the '60's--'70's era, ie. second chances, "rehabilitation", etc.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:01 PM (BIScD)

But not by the laws of the time - and this 'handling' went on through the 80's and even into the 90s. That's why the church hierarchy was complicit in the crimes as well. They helped cover them up.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:08 PM (wqVD1)

376 male on male is thought to be rarely reported, and not because it was consensual

Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 04:09 PM (zOTsN)

377 Only poofs fuck women.

Posted by: Dennis "Crazy Larry" Hastert at May 29, 2015 04:10 PM (amQXf)

378 You tell 'em, butchie-boy! *swoon*

Posted by: captain*arizona's down-low lover at May 29, 2015 04:12 PM (sCHw2)

379 @232: "he never would have made any of that money if the world had known that he was buggering his students

he wouldn't have been a congressman, he wouldn't have been speaker, and he wouldn't have been a lobbyist"

He'd just have to direct movies, instead.

Posted by: Roman Polanski & Woody Allen at May 29, 2015 04:12 PM (amQXf)

380 So, the spotlight's still looking over there at the guys? Good........ *phew*

Posted by: High-School lesbian basketball coach at May 29, 2015 04:15 PM (sCHw2)

381 372 lying to investigators is not an ill defined crime
it is also not a bullshit charge
Posted by: ThunderB at May 29, 2015 04:06 PM (zOTsN)

'Structuring' is an ill-defined crime and is a bullshit offense which shouldn't even be a crime.. Which means lying about 'structuring' is a derivative bullshit offense.

I'm not arguing that this isn't the current law but I think it's bad bullshit law. So I'm not going to treat it with the same legitimacy and respect as other laws. Nor am I going to make any moral judgements about violating this particular law.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:16 PM (wqVD1)

382 So with this indictment we finally have the gaystapo's proof of gay persecution in America. Funny how they've all shut the fuck up about this.

Posted by: Iblis at May 29, 2015 04:19 PM (9221z)

383 wow all the good conservatives defending child molesting! I didn't know this was the pervert blog. I guess there right when they say G.o.p. is nambla! You show me a good republican and I will show you a public toilet pervert!

No one is defending sick child molesters. However, some of us are pointing out the way the stories and accusations are "framed" by a media that celebrates all things gay---and then covers up the inconvenient facts that reveal the truth about those who it often champions...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:21 PM (pIenm)

384 I definitely think the charges on how this came about are completely bullshit.

If Hastert was say a regular guy and he was using the cash to buy gold coins, my guess is the charges would have ever come down.

But once they started peeling this away and saw a chance to make this public, they went for it.

You can call that "justice" but I'm very wary of arbitrarily enforcing laws that are so vague that we basically become a nation of men and not laws.

If this was truly child molestation that you're out to nail him on, then put him away for child molestation.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:22 PM (vRHxQ)

385 Baloney. Lying to investigators has been on the books since forever

Can't you distinguish between that and structuring?

Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 29, 2015 04:23 PM (dw7lk)

386 He could have written a check

But he didn't want his name on a document

He could have remained silent. But he didn't

Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 29, 2015 04:24 PM (dw7lk)

387 385 Baloney. Lying to investigators has been on the books since forever
Can't you distinguish between that and structuring?
Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 29, 2015 04:23 PM (dw7lk)

And I'm not even arguing that point. Did you read my comment?

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:25 PM (wqVD1)

388 @364: "I just like sex in public toilets like all good republicans."

Yup! Just poling, er, polling, current and/or future voters.

Posted by: Dennis Hastert at May 29, 2015 04:25 PM (amQXf)

389 375--I agree with you, but the Church has probably had to deal with many accusations that weren't true. The Roman Catholic Church is a worldwide organization with deep pockets--which is why it is the target of so many lawsuits--both with merit, or frivolous.
A small Protestant congregation where a similar incident may have occurred would deal with it by, among other things, simply banishing the offending minister. But it wouldn't make headlines--unless it was a major, well-known televangelist who headed an organization with deep pockets.
Am I wrong?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:30 PM (pIenm)

390 I read it. Did you read mine

Show me where I defended structuring

Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 29, 2015 04:32 PM (dw7lk)

391 I knew Hector liked sex in public toliets!! That's the only way he can have sex with someone besides his right hand - when they don't have to look at him or talk to him.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 29, 2015 04:32 PM (+XMAD)

392 385.

It is bullshit, how many investigators were on this case of a guy taking money out of his own bank account?

What was the lie he told? Basically a form of "none of your business"?

And why does law enforcement get to lie but a civilian can't lie to law enforcement? He wasn't under oath

If you get pulled over for speeding and you tell the officer you weren't speeding, does that mean additional charges?

The "structuring" is also bullshit, he was informed he had to fill out a disclosure form if he kept taking out that amount, so in order to comply, he stopped taking out that amount in cash in single visits. It happens every day at banks, I worked at one years ago while in college and we informed that of clients all the time and they "structured" it so they wouldn't have to fill out that form.

If Hastert molested a kid, he deserves to go to prison for a long time, but going away for this nonsense is complete bullshit.

It's like Scooter Libby, basically they had nothing but they didnt want to leave empty handed.

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:33 PM (vRHxQ)

393 389 375--I agree with you, but the Church has probably had to deal with many accusations that weren't true. The Roman Catholic Church is a worldwide organization with deep pockets--which is why it is the target of so many lawsuits--both with merit, or frivolous.

A small Protestant congregation where a similar incident may have occurred would deal with it by, among other things, simply banishing the offending minister. But it wouldn't make headlines--unless it was a major, well-known televangelist who headed an organization with deep pockets.
Am I wrong?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:30 PM (pIenm)

In many of the cases there was really no question at all about the guilt of the priest at the time - that's why they were sent to another parish or to priest rehab. But the law says that all suspected incidents must be reported to authorities. But the church leaders didn't do this and in fact arranged things so the incidents would not come to the attention of the authorities and/or would be very hard to investigate. Which is likely criminal conspiracy on their part.

The fact that other churches might do the same thing (and probably did at some point) in no way exonerates the Catholic church in this situations. I'm actually a non-Catholic defender of the Catholic church for the most part but their handling of the priest sexual abuse cases (and here I mainly focus on the US hierarchy) was horrific, a terrible moral failing, and almost certainly criminal.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:39 PM (wqVD1)

394 Quick, let's circle the wagons and protect this chomo!

Posted by: Jeff Gannon at May 29, 2015 04:39 PM (gP1eR)

395 393. Thanks for your input. But I think The Church's biggest mistake was allowing in ghey priests. I remember reading once that at the time, the prevailing wisdom on the RC was that well, if heterosexual priests take a vow of chastity and keeps it in his pants, why not ask the same of homo priests?
They were so wrong.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 29, 2015 04:43 PM (pIenm)

396 390 I read it. Did you read mine
Show me where I defended structuring
Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 29, 2015 04:32 PM (dw7lk)

1) First show me where I ever accused you of defending structuring.
2) Does this imply that you do think that structuring is a bad law?

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 04:47 PM (wqVD1)

397 395.

And we have the new Pope that basically says "who is he to judge" if a catholic priest is gay. Basically "none of my business" when it most certainly is the Church's business.

How many of these priest incidents involved young women?

Posted by: McAdams at May 29, 2015 04:48 PM (vRHxQ)

398 You can't say I defended structuring because I didnt.

Aviator said the charge of lying to investigators, who he said were out of bounds, was bullshit. He went on to opine that lying to investigators should not be a crime. I disagree

It was within their authority. That means it was "in bounds". As for structuring, they didn't write the law and it's an old one

The problem is not the investigators but the law.

Posted by: Thunderb at May 29, 2015 05:04 PM (zOTsN)

399 Hmmm.... wasn't Hastert lying about sex? I thought that became legal in the 1990s.

Posted by: An Observation at May 29, 2015 05:17 PM (c3Xn4)

400 Here is a big structural difference between Democrats and Republicans:

D does something horrific all the commenting Ds try to protect him. R does something horrific all the commenting Rs condemn him.

Posted by: An Observation at May 29, 2015 05:23 PM (c3Xn4)

401 Ace you may have said that yesterday but I don't remmeber you saying or even inferring anything like that yesterday
Yesterday you were all about saying that it was perfectly OK and normal to take money out of abank in chunks of 50 grand. Nothing even faintly wrong with that
OHH and nicely buried and quickly done with this current item: that the longest serving GOP Speaker of the House and 3rd in line to be POTUS was diddling his students.

Posted by: righter at May 29, 2015 05:35 PM (r6HrP)

402 a wrestling coach of course he was gay.

Posted by: righter at May 29, 2015 05:40 PM (r6HrP)

403 309 This story just seems off.
If the hush payments really did not start until 2007 when Hastert was out of congress
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2010 actually.

These are completely separate issues - do you not see that?

'Structuring' is a bullshit offense that shouldn't even be a crime and so lying about is also a bullshit offense. That has nothing to do with whether or not Hastert is a child molester.

It's a rare bad law that has *no* occasional positive benefits but that doesn't mean that it's not a bad law.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 29, 2015 03:51 PM (wqVD1)
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This.

394 -Lets get a clue and actually understand the multiple discussions actually going on.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at May 29, 2015 05:47 PM (MbrzC)

404 401 Ace you may have said that yesterday but I don't remmeber you saying or even inferring anything like that yesterday
Yesterday you were all about saying that it was perfectly OK and normal to take money out of abank in chunks of 50 grand. Nothing even faintly wrong with that
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And nothings changed in that regard there is nothing even faintly wrong with anyone withdrawing there own money out of their own accounts.

Someone may have reading comprehension issues.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at May 29, 2015 05:49 PM (MbrzC)

405 Shhhh lmhbo for those of you from rio linda the H stands or hairy....

Posted by: sonnyspats at May 29, 2015 05:58 PM (XYKz+)

406 399 Hmmm.... wasn't Hastert lying about sex? I thought that became legal in the 1990s.
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PL-1998.WJC Law states that " I am a member of the Democrat Party" is an affirmative defense for such lying, no such language exists in the act for members of any other party.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at May 29, 2015 05:59 PM (MbrzC)

407 The Republican base in 2006 was far more pissed off over the way every bill that came out of Congress was larded up with earmarks than they were disgusted over Mark Foley. Haster has always had the Illinois attitide that such spending isn't pork, it's the meat and potatoes reason to be in office.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at May 29, 2015 06:31 PM (8yAxC)

408 Ohhh,

Well, he was a high school wrestling coach, that pretty much increases the odds of perversion by 10-fold.

Then again, you would think the liberals would be calling him a hero, now....maybe if he didn't hide it, but being a homosexual predator in a high place in government, you think they would be worshipping at his altar.

Posted by: doug at May 29, 2015 06:32 PM (IYEs/)

409 "It's a rare bad law that has *no* occasional positive benefits but that doesn't mean that it's not a bad law. "

It's a good law that spots criminal activity. It's got few downsides to it. You already give the information to a bank, which means you're going to be sold something based on that behavior.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 29, 2015 07:09 PM (8rRE+)

410 409 - Horrible law that has no up side.
Enjoy the chains.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at May 29, 2015 08:30 PM (MbrzC)

411 if he molested some kid this would make him a scumbag. As far as this stupid law of having to tell the government what you are doing with your own money, well this is ridiculous. As far as Hastert goes, either way he's done career-wise. Whether he ends up doing time, well, this is Illinois we're talking about here. The politicians in Illinois do end up spending a lot of time in jail. This whole story is creepy.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at May 30, 2015 01:58 AM (2/oBD)

412 Remember: He's not been charged with anything at all related to his "misconduct" - he's charged with a felony for withdrawing his own money from his own bank account. That's it. That's the sole basis of the felony charges against him.

If that doesn't outrage you, you should just declare yourself to be a progressive/fascist statist right now and go screw yourself.

Worse, it seems he withdrew the money to pay off a blackmailer and the blackmailer has NOT been charged with any crime.

Posted by: Aarradin at May 31, 2015 08:05 PM (E1dWk)

413 That's why I hate wrestling.

Posted by: Chewbama at June 01, 2015 06:04 PM (nlQae)

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