That Special Small-Batch Bourbon With The Great History? Maybe Not......[CBD]

What counts is what is in the bottle, so if your favorite bourbon is made at a giant distillery in Minnesota....does it really matter? if it tastes good...drink it!

The counter-argument is that the consumer has the right to know what is in the bottle, and bourbon labels are rich with obfuscation and misdirection. And that bourbons vs. distilleries is a telling bit of data. 200 bourbons and only 14 distilleries? Hmmmm......

So, Is your special bourbon this?

Or.....

This?

[addendum] And from Moron "Sean," another take on the issue.

Here's the link if the video doesn't play for you.

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1 I fancy Jim Beam

Posted by: Saar at May 30, 2015 11:58 AM (EDN2/)

2 Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

Posted by: redenzo at May 30, 2015 12:00 PM (WCnJW)

3 Am I the only one with no audio on the first video?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 12:02 PM (VPLuQ)

4 I've visited the Talisker distillery on Isle of Skye, and it's in between. Of course, that's Scotch. Anyone who drinks bourbon deserved what they get.

Oh, yeah, I went there.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:03 PM (LAe3v)

5 deserves

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:03 PM (LAe3v)

6 I can hear it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 30, 2015 12:03 PM (0xTsz)

7 I've found that anything that comes from the Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort is quite good, even much of the bottom shelf stuff.

Posted by: SARDiver at May 30, 2015 12:03 PM (DzJBg)

8

I'm surprised they haven't included an "aged at sea" bottle with every Lexus.

http://thewhiskeyjug.com/bourbon-whiskey/jeffersons-ocean-aged-sea-review/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Copa del Rey Final 3:30EST at May 30, 2015 12:05 PM (zqrZE)

9 yeah, well, bourbon's about the mash blend and the barrels. When I visited the distilleries, they obviously didn't have the materials to make billions of gallons but the aging houses did seem pretty big.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 30, 2015 12:05 PM (unYP3)

10 Cheap hooch can be poured back into the horse.

Life is way too short.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:06 PM (0HooB)

11 That first picture : Scrapper's Delight.

That's a lot of copper.

Posted by: Garrett at May 30, 2015 12:07 PM (ycu3n)

12 The first time or two that I bought whiskey it was the cheapest stuff available, as I couldn't afford anything better, and I never liked it much. Tried a bottle of Wild Turkey last year and liked it a lot. I don't know if that is due to changing tastes or if it is just the difference between cheap and relatively decent whiskeys, but I suspect that it is the latter.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 30, 2015 12:07 PM (a42f0)

13 My husband did the Woodford Reserve tour with his coworkers. Is that all a lie?!

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:07 PM (DLBJh)

14 I don't really drink whiskey but when I do it's Makers.

Got sick on a bottle of Evan Williams one time and it sorta cured me of the whiskey thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:08 PM (RoiEH)

15 Been drinking much Blanton's lately.

Posted by: Garrett at May 30, 2015 12:10 PM (ycu3n)

16
Scotch.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 30, 2015 12:10 PM (jeCnD)

17 Hank Jr. likes Jim Beam and Texas Women. Good enough for me and danged hard to argue against.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 12:11 PM (JO9+V)

18 I got introduced to Tullamore Dew by an Irish-American friend. He called it Tears of the Angel.

It wasn't bad at all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:11 PM (0HooB)

19 Ah yes, hard liquor, where the Horde suddenly lets their hipster flag fly. How can anyone over the age of 12 be shocked that *gasp* a liquor that is consumed en masse will be made en masse? We bitch about the lefties having wildly unrealistic expectations of prices, and yet we are amazed that some random jerkoff can't brew whiskey in his backyard and sell it in Generic Liquor Store all across the nation?

Personally, I think Templeton Rye is amazing, and I'm willing to pay the premium to get it, size-of-batchness be damned. Though I am open to suggestions. (I'm also willing to do a taste test with other ryes from the same distillery, if anyone's willing to foot the bill...)

Posted by: Some Random Jerkoff at May 30, 2015 12:12 PM (GSHIC)

20
Two fingers of Jack Daniels, a little bit of water, and one ice cube (small size).

Posted by: mrp at May 30, 2015 12:12 PM (JBggj)

21 grey fox,
I'd say it's because wild turkey doesn't distill the shit out of its mash. Woodford does it three times and the result is different than flavorful less distilled stuff out there

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 30, 2015 12:12 PM (unYP3)

22 Rye is the way, my Friends.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:12 PM (MQEz6)

23 Sterno!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 30, 2015 12:14 PM (oVJmc)

24 Actually Oregon is having a burst of craft distilleries starting up.

Since Oregon spirits was never known for high quality spirits I get a certain level of joy from watching self-proclaimed snobs go into transports of ecstasy over Oregon small batch distilling.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 30, 2015 12:14 PM (t//F+)

25 I know I'll be looking for Some Random Jerkoff bourbon in the local liquor store.

I truly hope it's as good as Valu-Rite.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:16 PM (0HooB)

26 I appreciated the video. I didn't know about Bulleit. (They showed George Dickel's on the screen at the end. They should have know that' Tennessee Sour Mash and not bourbon. I can taste the charcoal filtering in Jack Daniels black label, and have never cared for TN whiskey.)

I've found that many like wheated bourbon (Makers, Weller, Van Winkle) but aren't a fan of the rye bourbons. With the exception of the Pappy Van Winkle 20yr my brother gave me as a groomsman's gift, they've never done much for me. I like the spice that rye brings. It's almost like a Coke or Pepsi choice.

Posted by: SARDiver at May 30, 2015 12:16 PM (DzJBg)

27 whiskey vs Bourbon.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 30, 2015 12:17 PM (R8hU8)

28 Looks like Bulleit is the big offender here. I've actually never had it so no opinion in quality. This thread makes me want some of the WR Double Oaked I have in the pantry. Stupid being pregnant.

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:17 PM (DLBJh)

29 Posted by: Kindltot at May 30, 2015 12:14 PM (t//F+)

+1

A lot of these craft distillers don't know what the fcuk they are doing.

There is plenty of overpriced crap on the market.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2015 12:17 PM (Zu3d9)

30 I like "knob creek" ok, It is a jim bean small batch.

Scotch seems a bit easier to understand how it gets its variety and flavor without all the pretense seen in bourbon distilling. For instance, the Glenmorangie facility looks pretty industrial if you ever take a tour but nobody cares. It is all about where the water comes from and where the barrels are kept. The particular distillery's history isn't as important.

Posted by: BananaDream at May 30, 2015 12:19 PM (vLk7c)

31 The best stuff around here is Woodford Reserve and I like it but $40/bottle is too much for chugging. Normally I just drink the cheap shit. I do RNR most of the time. Its cheap and pretty good. It must be good because the liquor store cant keep it on the shelf. He is allocated 3 cases a month and he runs out every month before he can get more.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 30, 2015 12:19 PM (GpgJl)

32 So the upcoming MoMe will be a scientific survey of which bourbon or whiskey is truly best?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 30, 2015 12:21 PM (ojr4A)

33 Costco has damned good bourbon for the price.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2015 12:22 PM (Zu3d9)

34 Technically, you can't make bourbon in Minnesota.

Posted by: OCBill at May 30, 2015 12:22 PM (VCCXE)

35 27
whiskey vs Bourbon.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 30, 2015 12:17 PM (R8hU

Bourbon is whiskey made in a specific region of KY.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 30, 2015 12:22 PM (GpgJl)

36 The Science! of distilling would just fascinate me. All those flavonoids, esters, essence, and stuff evaporating out of the pot, condensing at different points in the fractionating column.

Then the marketing of all your failures. Selling them to the mass market with quirky names like 'Snake Bite', or "Spider Poison" and making a profit.

Or start from the other end, with pure ethanol and add flavors, cinnamon, or spice and call it "Captain Silver Beard Rum" with a little artificial color to make it look real and a cute label on the bottle; a bottle that could be a collector's item. Sell it at Walmart and make millions.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 30, 2015 12:22 PM (PzMgr)

37 A friemd's dad makes his own Rye. About 4 bottles a year.
I usually get one of those. Not my favorite drink, but it's about as small batch as they come.

Posted by: Garrett at May 30, 2015 12:23 PM (Ycrkl)

38 So the upcoming MoMe will be a scientific survey of which bourbon or whiskey is truly best?

Everyone needs a purpose in life.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:24 PM (0HooB)

39 Wow, got scammed by the Bulliet label.

Well, that prompts me to keep looking for other ones.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:25 PM (MQEz6)

40
Actually, the staggering variety of different distillations is--to me--a very good thing.

One could spend one's life grazing among the different brands without having to decide which WAS the best.

Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 30, 2015 12:25 PM (jeCnD)

41 Well, that prompts me to keep looking for other ones.

That's the spirit!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:26 PM (0HooB)

42 Having visited a number of wineries, I always ask the question, do you have anything that is produced 100% here?

Perhaps in California I might get some 'yes' answers, but not east of the Mississippi. The fact is 'wineries' buy large quantities of stuff from other producers, then blend and label (or, more often, hire someone to do it) their bottles.

That doesn't mean that their wines are bad...., just that marketing is the key to success.

I tried some Bulleit Rye lately. The hipsters might go for it, but I thought it sucked.

Micro-distilleries are popping up around here. I'm not moved. Snobbish sorts (eaten up with cognitive dissonance) who visit these places will maunder on and on about 'overtones', and 'finish', but the fact is, none of these places have been around long enough to have aged any remarkable whiskey

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:28 PM (n6Nt0)

43 "39 Wow, got scammed by the Bulliet label. "

Well, is it any good?

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:28 PM (DLBJh)

44 32
So the upcoming MoMe will be a scientific survey of which bourbon or whiskey is truly best?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD)

No, the Scotch argument is settled. It's Talisker. I leave it to the heathen to fight over the rest. Although I do like Jameson's as my everyday (read affordable) alternative.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:28 PM (LAe3v)

45 Actually, the staggering variety of different distillations is--to me--a very good thing.

Why do you hate the little children?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at May 30, 2015 12:29 PM (LAe3v)

46 I'm a Balcones man myself, or at least I was until they chased Chip Tate, the founder, out of the company. I'm looking forward to what he does next.

Posted by: some asshole at May 30, 2015 12:30 PM (jbwtm)

47 The degree of precision between batches looks to be rather remarkable.

That is the real trick in chemistry: robust processes.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:30 PM (MQEz6)

48 After a coupla shots, your taste buds go numb, so what difference does it make? As long as you can swallow the first one.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 30, 2015 12:30 PM (PzMgr)

49 44
32

So the upcoming MoMe will be a scientific survey of which bourbon or whiskey is truly best?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD)

No, the Scotch argument is settled. It's Talisker.

Also, you're in my spot.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:30 PM (LAe3v)

50 One bourbon, one Scotch and one bourbon. *hic*

Posted by: Hillary!!1! and The Destroyers at May 30, 2015 12:31 PM (Dwehj)

51 "That is the real trick in chemistry: robust processes."

Damn straight.

Posted by: Walter White at May 30, 2015 12:32 PM (RoiEH)

52 Small batch bourbon is often referred to as single barrel. It is whiskey in which the entire batch comes from a single aging barrel. You will pay through the nose for this kind of stuff though.

I saw a special on TV once about making whiskey and the various brands etc. Those single barrel issues of top brands like Buffalo Trace are usually sold out before they even hit the market.

At a bar they showed a bartender serving it and they discussed it. He said it should be drank a sip at a time straight (no ice, no mix). It was going for $100/shot there. He said he had a guy come in ask for a bourbon and coke made from the stuff. He refused to sell it to him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 30, 2015 12:32 PM (GpgJl)

53
43 "39 Wow, got scammed by the Bulliet label. "

Well, is it any good?
Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:28 PM (DLBJh)

It's very good. I'll still drink it, but now I know what I am not drinking.

There are lots of god ones out there and some of them have fake labels, that's okay.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:33 PM (MQEz6)

54 People who drink for the taste problems.

Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2015 12:33 PM (DL2i+)

55 4
I've visited the Talisker distillery on Isle of Skye, and it's in
between. Of course, that's Scotch. Anyone who drinks bourbon deserved
what they get.

Oh, yeah, I went there.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:03 PM (LAe3v)

Yeah, really liking the Talisker for a lower priced scotch, when not drinking the Lagavulin or Laphroaig.

Posted by: Chinaacid at May 30, 2015 12:34 PM (atPLq)

56 I saw some Crown Royal rye at the store the other day. Has anyone here tried it? Is it any good?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (aNzsD)

57 I'd say it's because wild turkey doesn't distill the shit out of its mash. Woodford does it three times and the result is different than flavorful less distilled stuff out there

Ok, that is interesting to know.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (a42f0)

58 Yeah, really liking the Talisker for a lower priced scotch, when not drinking the Lagavulin or Laphroaig.

I like the smoke, but I think Talisker is smoother than those two.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (LAe3v)

59
56 I saw some Crown Royal rye at the store the other day. Has anyone here tried it? Is it any good?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (aNzsD)

You drink Crown Royal in college.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (MQEz6)

60 Nice story. Mt Gay rum is aged in old Jim Beam barrels that are re hooped in Barbados. Hence the darker color and sweeter taste.

The rum doesn't need to age nearly as long because the heat and humidity in Barbados speeds shit up.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 12:36 PM (0FSuD)

61 Good news, everyone.

As we all suspected, Obama's ISIS strategy is to run out the clock and pass it to the next administration.

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:36 PM (DLBJh)

62 Bourbon is made in Kentucky. Period.

Posted by: NCKate at May 30, 2015 12:36 PM (zGDNi)

63 There are only three reasons to drink whiskey

One- to get drunk and forget your troubles

Two- um, sumpin', sumpin'...whatever...

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 30, 2015 12:37 PM (NeFrd)

64 After a coupla shots, your taste buds go numb, so what difference does it make? As long as you can swallow the first one.

Wait, wut? This is still the bourbon thread, right?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 12:38 PM (JO9+V)

65 4
I've visited the Talisker distillery on Isle of Skye, and it's in
between. Of course, that's Scotch. Anyone who drinks bourbon deserved
what they get.

Scotch? It's what bourbon taste like with a burned out cigarette floating in it the glass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 12:38 PM (0FSuD)

66 I wonder what the stuff Hillary! drinks tastes like.

or maybe not

Posted by: mallfly at May 30, 2015 12:38 PM (qSIlh)

67 I thought one of the main expenses related to bourbon was the wooden barrels, charred on the inside, which, by law, can only be used once, then they are sold to some tequila outfit in Mexico.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at May 30, 2015 12:39 PM (JgC5a)

68 59
You drink Crown Royal in college.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:35 PM (MQEz6)

I wished I could afford something as fancy as Crown Royal when I was in college. Olde Milwaukee, baby !

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:39 PM (aNzsD)

69 It's fun to drink a bourbon when all the other "men" are drinking fruity drinks or pinch of orange picnic fun beer.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:39 PM (MQEz6)

70 My father is a high school chemistry teacher, and also really enjoyed Breaking Bad. A year back or so it looked like he might lose his job due to conflict with the principal (as it happened, the principal suddenly announced just a month ago that he is taking a new job out of state. Much rejoicing among the teachers, and even the headmaster seems relieved...), and I suggested that he take up moonshining if he couldn't teach.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 30, 2015 12:39 PM (a42f0)

71 Get moody with Hudy!

Posted by: Hillary!!1! and The Destroyers at May 30, 2015 12:40 PM (Dwehj)

72 " I wonder what the stuff Hillary! drinks tastes like. "
Certainly not Handbaby.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 12:41 PM (VPLuQ)

73 I drink Beam. Jim Beam.

It's reasonably priced, and my taste buds can't tell the difference between it and something costing twice as much.

While the video singled out Bulleitt, I think the point was that most of the niche, "high end" brands do the same thing. "200 bourbons and only 14 distilleries".

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 12:41 PM (sdi6R)

74 One could spend one's life grazing among the different brands without having to decide which WAS the best.
-----------------

One of the great good fortunes that I have fallen into, was spending a week aboard a ship in the N. Atlantic. A fellow passenger proved to be a Scot with an encyclopedic knowledge of (and matching taste for) Scotch whiskies.

The ship, being a British ship, had a bar well-stocked with a myriad of Scotches. Night after night was spent sampling the wares while being regaled regarding the virtues of each, "Och! They've got Laphroaig!..., ye moost try this.."

The trip became the basis for a friendship of many years now between Mr. & Mrs. Scot and Mr. & Mrs. Hammer. Cheers!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:41 PM (n6Nt0)

75 " Olde Milwaukee, baby !"

Whew. I sank as low as Natural Light once or twice, but.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:42 PM (RoiEH)

76 When I was in college, I liked W.L. Weller and Jack Daniels Black Label, although JD is not technically bourbon since it's from Tennessee.

The worst was the basic Jim Beam and Jsck Daniels green label.

After college, I got away from bourbon and switched to beer, mostly porters and stouts.

Posted by: OCBill at May 30, 2015 12:43 PM (VCCXE)

77 Sounds like the law that bourbon can only be aged in new barrels started out as a protectionist measure for barrel manufacturers.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 12:43 PM (sdi6R)

78 "69 It's fun to drink a bourbon when all the other "men" are drinking fruity drinks or pinch of orange picnic fun beer.
"

I have a self conscious relationship with bourbon. I legitimately like it better than most other alcohol, but feel like most people who see a girl order bourbon probably think she's trying hard to be one of the guys. I just don't like wine or beer that much and fruity drinks make me sick.

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 12:43 PM (DLBJh)

79 "Whew. I sank as low as Natural Light once or twice, but. "

Busch cans.

A long time ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 12:44 PM (VPLuQ)

80 One of the reasons our ancestors may have come down from the trees was to get to the rotting fruit on the ground.

The Monolith may actually have been a handful of intoxicating alcohol-rich mush.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:45 PM (MQEz6)

81 Hammer, is this your cat with your car?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/selection-du-weekend-142-38.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 30, 2015 12:45 PM (ojr4A)

82 Old Milwaukee was a popular choice when I was in college because you could buy it in 14-ounce cans.

Posted by: OCBill at May 30, 2015 12:45 PM (VCCXE)

83 Natty Light was some pretty toxic stuff.

Posted by: Hillary!!1! and The Destroyers at May 30, 2015 12:45 PM (Dwehj)

84 It's fun to drink a bourbon when all the other "men" are drinking fruity drinks or pinch of orange picnic fun beer.
Posted by: eman
---------------------
My standard order:
"J&B, a double, two cubes"
That's it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:45 PM (n6Nt0)

85 75 Whew. I sank as low as Natural Light once or twice, but.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:42 PM (RoiEH)

Oh, an aristocrat !

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (aNzsD)

86 My low point was buying generic beer. White cans, "BEER" in black lettering on the cans.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (JO9+V)

87 ***Strokes beard and gazes pensively into the near distance while contemplating the erudite discussion of the nuances of Laphroaig versus
Tularularula***

***Sips Valu-rite***

***Strokes beard again***

***Burps pensively***

Thanks for the nice thread CBD!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (NeFrd)

88 There is a cheese that is aged with Bourbon. They take these leaves and soak them in bourbon and then wrap the cheese in them and allow it to age. Suppose to be good.

Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 30, 2015 12:47 PM (iQIUe)

89 As a consultant to a few distilleries and avid whisky drinker I wrote an article about this two years ago:

http://whiskymarks.com/did-they-actually-make-it

We have no one but the Treasury Department--who regulates spirit labeling--to blame for the confusion.

Posted by: Sean at May 30, 2015 12:47 PM (t+uGE)

90 Anna - I keep the car keys locked up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:47 PM (n6Nt0)

91 86 My low point was buying generic beer. White cans, "BEER" in black lettering on the cans.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (JO9+V)

You win! I remember that stuff, but never drank it.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:48 PM (aNzsD)

92
85 75 Whew. I sank as low as Natural Light once or twice, but.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:42 PM (RoiEH)

Oh, an aristocrat !
Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (aNzsD)

Genesee Creame Ale.

The college gave it and shitty pizza away by the ton on Friday nights.

Oh, God.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:48 PM (MQEz6)

93 Posted by: Sean at May 30, 2015 12:47 PM (t+uGE)

Link added to the post....Thanks!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2015 12:50 PM (Zu3d9)

94 Little Kings!1!

Posted by: Hillary!!1! and The Destroyers at May 30, 2015 12:50 PM (Dwehj)

95 "Oh, an aristocrat !"

I have a fine palate, what can I say.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:50 PM (RoiEH)

96 "Genesee Creame Ale. "
As an 18-20 year old, in the Lehigh Valley back in the days of CB radio clubs, we had our monthly meetings at firehalls.

Fireballs did not really card, as we all sat at long tables with food and pitchers of beer.

And Genesee Cream Ale was usually what was served.

Tasted good, back then.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 12:51 PM (VPLuQ)

97 Scotch? It's what bourbon taste like with a burned out cigarette floating in it the glass.

Bourbon? It's what Scotch tastes like after it's been strained through Hillary's week-old Depends.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 12:52 PM (LAe3v)

98 >>Genesee Creame Ale.

Is that the one that could be bought in a "beer ball"? Ugh,college.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2015 12:52 PM (q6kiT)

99 Don't like beer balls, nope.

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 30, 2015 12:53 PM (Dwehj)

100 I've tried to refine my taste in brown stuff not labelled Brandy, as I used to drink mixers and decided to try sipping straight.
My entirely unrefined conclusions are as follows;
Jack Daniels and Southern Comfort are for mixing. Or college kids. Or people who need to get hammered fast and grab what's nearest.
Makers Mark isn't smooth, but has good flavor.
Old Thompson (the cheapest crap out there) is surprisingly good.
Jameson is quite good.
Dewars white blended....Oh, did I mention I did this in one night? Don't recall what Dewars tasted like, but I think it was good.
Hell, it's all good, til you stand up.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2015 12:53 PM (XmOA9)

101
42 Having visited a number of wineries, I always ask the question, do you have anything that is produced 100% here?

Perhaps in California I might get some 'yes' answers, but not east of the Mississippi.

Try Bully Hill, in the Finger Lakes region of New York. It was started by a member of the Taylor family after he saw Taylor Winery adding junk to their wines. Then Coca-Cola bought Taylor wine and tried to put Bully Hill out of business. It's an interesting story, here's a link to it:

http://www.bullyhillvineyards.com/about/heritage/

Some of their wine is excellent, others, not so good. But there are no additives and the wine is made 100% on-site.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2015 12:53 PM (RcpcZ)

102 Narragansett beer. The beer so bad that myself and some fellow thirsty bikers actually threw it out. Why the brewery hasn't been burned to the ground, I have no idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:54 PM (n6Nt0)

103 Scotch is not for the timid. It hits you like a hammer.

The taste, I mean.

Stick with it and you shall be rewarded.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:54 PM (MQEz6)

104 "76
When I was in college, I liked W.L. Weller and Jack Daniels Black Label,
although JD is not technically bourbon since it's from Tennessee."

It's not just location. The "Tennessee method" involves filtering through sugar maple charcoal.

Posted by: SARDiver at May 30, 2015 12:55 PM (DzJBg)

105 This is the only thread where I'd look forward to being put in the barrel.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2015 12:56 PM (RcpcZ)

106 So, bourbon is Kentucky whiskey named after French royalty ?

Posted by: seamrog at May 30, 2015 12:56 PM (64BOY)

107
Tipped a lot of Genny Screamers back in the day.

Now, after the Coor's brewery tour, it's been Killian's.

Stuff does taste good, as does ALL beer,IF it is JUST above freezing,on a sweltering, humid day.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 30, 2015 12:56 PM (jeCnD)

108 mmmmm.... charcoal......

Doh!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 30, 2015 12:56 PM (RFeQD)

109 94 Little Kings!1!

Posted by: Hillary!!1! and The Destroyers at May 30, 2015 12:50 PM (Dwehj)

A friend of mine says "They're just little guys, they can't hurt you." He's wrong, a bunch of Little Kings will sneak up on you and kick your ass !

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 30, 2015 12:57 PM (aNzsD)

110 86 My low point was buying generic beer. White cans, "BEER" in black lettering on the cans.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 12:46 PM (JO9+V)

I never saw that, but then supermarkets are not allowed to sell alcohol in Pennsylvania.

I loved the scene in "Repo Man" where one of the characters ate from a can in the fridge labeled "FOOD".

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 12:57 PM (sdi6R)

111 The immigrants created bourbon because they couldn't obtain Scotch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 12:57 PM (n6Nt0)

112 Narragansett beer. The beer so bad that myself and some fellow thirsty bikers actually threw it out. Why the brewery hasn't been burned to the ground, I have no idea.

You wouldn't have thrown out Old Frothingslosh beer.

Admit it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 12:58 PM (0HooB)

113 I hear the Japanese have some interesting whiskeys.

Must visit the place and try some.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 12:58 PM (MQEz6)

114 Stuff does taste good, as does ALL beer,IF it is JUST above freezing,on a sweltering, humid day.
Posted by: irongrampa
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IG, I love you like a brother, and I respect your judgement...., but..., there is no way, there is no circumstance, there is no thirst, that could transform Narragansett beer into something that tastes good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)

115 I thought one of the main expenses related to bourbon was the wooden barrels, charred on the inside, which, by law, can only be used once, then they are sold to some tequila outfit in Mexico.

That must get expensive. Valu-Rite clais that it passes on its savings to the customer by aging "in real Formica."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 30, 2015 01:00 PM (8ZskC)

116 "83 Natty Light was some pretty toxic stuff.
"

I don't remember it having any taste at all. Literally nothing. Of course Id had other, stronger drinks beforehand so...

Posted by: Lauren at May 30, 2015 01:00 PM (A6xmT)

117 Having spent too much time at distilleries, everyone should understand that Scotch and Bourbon both start out as vodka. Clear alcohol at 180 proof. Then water is added to cut the proof.

Then what is done with the alcohol is what makes it work. Jack filters theirs other don't bother. Simply put the barrels are the key, that and where they are aged. Some area's age faster than others.

I love it, but the tannin from the wood aging will fcuk up your stomach. Vodka, less hang over.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 01:01 PM (0FSuD)

118 "by aging "in real Formica."

Real formica you say. Kinda classy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 01:01 PM (RoiEH)

119 "but..., there is no way, there is no circumstance, there is no thirst, that could transform Narragansett beer into something that tastes good."

We can improve it!

Posted by: Your kidneys at May 30, 2015 01:03 PM (VPLuQ)

120 We used to dream of real Formica...

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:03 PM (sdi6R)

121 Genessee Cream Ale was the worst "beer" I've ever had.
*shudder*

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

122 @117

All true. But the result is Russia.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 30, 2015 01:06 PM (QZkRD)

123
Valu-Rite uses only the finest Formosan Formica!

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2015 01:06 PM (RcpcZ)

124 OT, watching some dumbass Alaska monsters show on TV. Apparently they have shape-shifters up there too. Who knew?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 01:06 PM (RoiEH)

125 We used to dream of real Formica...
Posted by: rickl
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I know! I know!
We would see the advertisements in the discarded newspapers that blew around the bus stop on our way to the shirt factory, and think.... "Someday...., someday..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:07 PM (n6Nt0)

126 The tequila which then gets aged in the (former) bourbon barrels is known as "Reposada", I think, for the sleeping.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at May 30, 2015 01:07 PM (JgC5a)

127 "if it tastes good...drink it!"

This.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at May 30, 2015 01:07 PM (tvUyF)

128 "Someday...., someday..."

Have you attained your dream yet?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 01:09 PM (RoiEH)

129 Lest anyone think I am snobbish, or condescending, I will say that our kitchen counters are *still* Formica. It compliments the pink electric cooktop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:09 PM (n6Nt0)

130 "Valu-Rite uses only the finest Formosan Formica!"

And filtered through peat harvested from the mountain highlands of Peruvia.

And finally, aged for six hours in casks lined with the bladder of the mature male peruvian llama.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 01:10 PM (VPLuQ)

131 Have you attained your dream yet?
Posted by: Ricardo

See 129. Yes..., achieved it many years ago..., too many years ago.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:11 PM (n6Nt0)

132 You whippersnappers and your fancy Formica and all. Why, when I was little, all we had was Congoleum.

And we were damned grateful to have it.

Now get off my floor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 01:13 PM (0HooB)

133
130 "Valu-Rite uses only the finest Formosan Formica!"

And filtered through peat harvested from the mountain highlands of Peruvia.

And finally, aged for six hours in casks lined with the bladder of the mature male peruvian llama.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2015 01:10 PM (VPLuQ)

Here comes the full bladder vs. empty bladder fight.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 01:13 PM (MQEz6)

134 Booker's Bourbon. Straight from the barrel, uncut. Aged 8 years.120-130 proof. A splash of branch water to smooth it out and bring out the flavor. They made a 25th Anniversary batch last year that was aged 10 years.

Posted by: Hank at May 30, 2015 01:14 PM (mb+j8)

135 Lest anyone think I am snobbish, or condescending, I will say that our kitchen counters are *still* Formica. It compliments the pink electric cooktop.

Formica resists most high ph solutions which allows me to use prussic acid in my cooking without worry.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 30, 2015 01:14 PM (8ZskC)

136 129 Lest anyone think I am snobbish, or condescending, I will say that our kitchen counters are *still* Formica. It compliments the pink electric cooktop.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:09 PM (n6Nt0)

My suburban house was built in 1956, and it still has the original Formica countertops decorated with multicolored boomerang-shaped squiggles.

I would never dream of replacing them. People pay good money for "retro" decor, and I have the real thing.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:14 PM (sdi6R)

137 "Genessee Cream Ale was the worst "beer" I've ever had.

*shudder*"

For me it was Billy Beer. I actually had it in Plains, GA. Worst beer I've ever had.

Nice thing where I live is a very large liquor store near me has tastings every couple of months. By that I mean all these different alcohol vendors ply their products for free. So over in the beer section there may be 8 different vendors giving away free samples, in the wine section probably the same amount, and then there are the hard liquor vendors over in the other sections.

I normally just gravitate towards the beer, but maybe I'll try some of the whiskey and bourbon next time.

Posted by: HH at May 30, 2015 01:14 PM (Ce4DF)

138 I love Formica. It's both practical and stylish.

Posted by: Carol Brady at May 30, 2015 01:16 PM (8ZskC)

139 Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 30, 2015 01:14 PM (8ZskC)

High pH?

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 01:16 PM (MQEz6)

140 You whippersnappers and your fancy Formica and all. Why, when I was little, all we had was Congoleum.

And we were damned grateful to have it.

Now get off my floor.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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Bah! Straw...., all we had was straw. I still wax nostalgic recalling my old man calling, "Boy! Hey you boy! Get the damn straw changed out!". Good times, good times...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:16 PM (n6Nt0)

141 You had a floor?

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2015 01:17 PM (MQEz6)

142 Some single barrel/small batch bourbons are worth the price difference, such as Four Roses single barrel vs. the regular yellow label stuff.

I can only drink small amounts of hard liquor at a sitting: half an ounce, neat, and sipped slowly. Otherwise reflux and an old ulcer make their presence known. It's fun to try different whisky but I've narrowed my preferences.

Bourbon: Elmer T. Lee and Wild Turkey Rare Breed.

Tennessee: George Dickel # 12.

Rye: Wild Turkey 101.

Scotch: Laphroig. (Used to be Lagavulin until their prices got stupid. I do like the heavy Islay single malts.)

None of these are too expensive or hipsterish.

Posted by: JTB at May 30, 2015 01:17 PM (FvdPb)

143 Low ph?

Help me out here.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 30, 2015 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

144 At this point in my life I am able to forgo all the Whiskey that feels like a cat scratched my throat.
depending on the outcome of the next election I may have to revert to some form of whiskey that could be a substitute for Fornby's furniture stripper.

Posted by: Mr Coffee at May 30, 2015 01:18 PM (/WmRg)

145 I have a hankerin' for several brands.. mostly the new Duke bourbon that came out recently. Yeah, likely a blend, but what a bottle, and what a taste! Highly recommend if you can find it...

Woodford Reserve is MUCH better than Woodford Double-Oaked, IMHO. Not worth the price diff...

For a nice whiskey, I go for home-brewed Stranahan's... which conveniently comes with its own snifter....

Posted by: Mr Wolf at May 30, 2015 01:19 PM (cjgnX)

146 Bah! Straw...., all we had was straw. I still wax
nostalgic recalling my old man calling, "Boy! Hey you boy! Get the damn
straw changed out!". Good times, good times...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

pffffft. We didn't even have dirt to put the straw on. Bedrock was my cradle.

Posted by: pep at May 30, 2015 01:19 PM (LAe3v)

147 I would never dream of replacing them. People pay good money for "retro" decor, and I have the real thing.
Posted by: rickl
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* stares at cards contemplatively *
* lays down a pair *

Baby blue, and Pink tiled bathrooms. I call.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:20 PM (n6Nt0)

148 *pulls up chair... pours drink*

Posted by: Y-not at May 30, 2015 01:21 PM (RWGcK)

149 >>>The Monolith may actually have been a handful of intoxicating alcohol-rich mush.

So reshoot the scene with a bunch of drunken monkeys stumbling around and vomiting. I like it.

Posted by: Stanley Kubrick at May 30, 2015 01:23 PM (cIoI4)

150 I'm a little disappointed to hear about the Bulleit because I liked it and it comes in a cool looking bottle. I'll buy it again

I've been a craft beer drinker for a long time, only into bourbon the last year or so. It may be my lack of experience and discrimination, but I have to keep bourbon buys under thirty bucks, and I've found several I've found quite good, besides the Bulleit. For such as it may be worth, among them are Weller's, both the Antique and the Special Reserve, Buffalo Trace, Wild Turkey 101, and a few others. I decided to try rye and am working on a bottle of Rittenhouse Rye.

Very Old Barton received good reviews as a decent cheap bourbon but I found it too harsh. I've tried Jim Beam and didn't care for it but it sells and somebody obviously disagrees with me.

By the way, if anyone has recommendations for good mderately priced, bourbon and rye, I'm all ears.

Posted by: Alex Bensky at May 30, 2015 01:23 PM (aWrgG)

151 200 bourbons and only 14 distilleries? And how many deodorants/anti-persperants does Unilever make, Bernie Sanders?

Clearly, distillers make different bourbons to cater to different tastes and pocketbooks.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 30, 2015 01:23 PM (V70Uh)

152 129
Lest anyone think I am snobbish, or condescending, I will say that our
kitchen counters are *still* Formica. It compliments the pink electric
cooktop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:09 PM (n6Nt0)

Hammer, it coming back in! You wait long enough everything recycles.

I am serious. White Formica is now "in"

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 01:23 PM (0FSuD)

153 147
* stares at cards contemplatively *
* lays down a pair *

Baby blue, and Pink tiled bathrooms. I call.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:20 PM (n6Nt0)

OK, you win.

As I recall, the original bathroom had *black* Formica around the sink. Who on Earth thought that was a good idea?

My dad replaced it sometime in the 80s.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:24 PM (sdi6R)

154
143 Low ph?

Help me out here.

It's all explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8IYoaVcazY

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 30, 2015 01:24 PM (RcpcZ)

155 151 200 bourbons and only 14 distilleries? And how many deodorants/anti-persperants does Unilever make, Bernie Sanders?

Clearly, distillers make different bourbons to cater to different tastes and pocketbooks.

--

Why should there be so many choices of bourbon? Will no one think about the children?!!!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders, Loon Candidate for President at May 30, 2015 01:24 PM (RWGcK)

156 143
Low ph?

Help me out here.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 30, 2015 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

Herpes will do that. Check with your doctor.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 01:25 PM (0FSuD)

157 Tough taking whiskey 'facts' from a guy wearing fuchsia jeans. I know it's Bloomberg and all, but sending Mr. New Yawk Pajama Boy fact-finding in Kentucky........fahgedaboutid!

Anyway, these days I'm liking Woodford Reserve (almost a good buy in the handy 1.75 handle), Breckenridge, Knob Creek Rye, and Balvenie Double Wood for scotch. Used to be a rocks guy with bourbon, but neat with a chaser works for me today.

For mixers I keep some Four Roses or Kessler's around.

Kessler's! When you're out of Kessler's, you're out of Sheboygan!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 30, 2015 01:25 PM (DLu2s)

158 By the way, if anyone has recommendations for good moderately priced, bourbon and rye, I'm all ears.
---------------

Old Overholt. Better than Bulleit Rye, IMHO, but that's not saying much.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:26 PM (n6Nt0)

159 Old Overholt. Better than Bulleit Rye, IMHO, but that's not saying much.

Old Overcoat is surprisingly good cheap whiskey.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 30, 2015 01:28 PM (DLu2s)

160 Old Overcoat
A timeless reference.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:28 PM (n6Nt0)

161 Buyer Beware! Use due caution, and know why you are paying a premium for the product. Because we all know a sucker is born every minute, and a fool and his money is quickly parted.

Posted by: aka.john at May 30, 2015 01:29 PM (G5xh9)

162 Macallan now owns rum--Dominican brand called "Brugal" and the higher end line is aged in whiskey casks. Good drinkin'.

Posted by: hmitchell3rd at May 30, 2015 01:29 PM (m5msJ)

163 Imported Black Label Beer.
Preskunked for your convenience.

Posted by: redclay at May 30, 2015 01:29 PM (GM8B7)

164 OK distilleristas, I gotta go do stuff. Two gigs tonight (Thanks, Big Guy!).

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 30, 2015 01:29 PM (0HooB)

165 I enjoy Rebel Yell. It's a decent bourbon, and carries a panache in these parts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:30 PM (n6Nt0)

166 Although my bathroom still does have the original baby blue tile.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:30 PM (sdi6R)

167 Although my bathroom still does have the original baby blue tile.
Posted by: rickl
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* contemplates the built-in, fold-down ironing board card *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:32 PM (n6Nt0)

168 Kessler's! When you're out of Kessler's, you're out of Sheboygan!

Lol.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at May 30, 2015 01:33 PM (rHXGG)

169 Gardening thread up.

Also gardening thread archive. Comment on the real gardening thread, though.

Posted by: Y-not at May 30, 2015 01:34 PM (RWGcK)

170 I LOVE Buffalo Trace. But I only buy it twice a year (Christmas and Birthday).

I like Old Crow. It is tasty for the price.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 30, 2015 01:36 PM (V70Uh)

171 "Although my bathroom still does have the original baby blue tile."

I like the old 50's style decor. I wasn't even alive but I know it was a better time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 01:37 PM (RoiEH)

172 "14
I don't really drink whiskey but when I do it's Makers.

Got sick on a bottle of Evan Williams one time and it sorta cured me of the whiskey thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 12:08 PM (RoiEH)"

What a horrible tragedy. Fortunately when I was young and grossly overserved it was Scotch that I was cured of. For years, just the smell of scotch would make my stomach heave but fortunately that did not carry over to other whiskey.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 30, 2015 01:37 PM (QHgTq)

173 Everyone has a trip to Mexico story. Et the worm and can never touch Mezcal or Tequila again.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 30, 2015 01:39 PM (V70Uh)

174 I actually like Bulleit Rye. However, the last time I went in to buy it the clerk recommended I try Darby Rye. Haven't tired it yet. Anyone else try Darby? If so, what did you think of it? It's $2 cheaper than Bulleit.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 30, 2015 01:39 PM (BLFGI)

175 I like Mags Bennett's Apple Pie. But I bring my own glass.

Posted by: Raylan Givens at May 30, 2015 01:45 PM (nFdGS)

176 102 ... Narragansett was our 'local' beer so we didn't know any better in the 50s and 60s. It was cheap and had alcohol. The alternative was Ballantine Ale. Rest easy. I heard the original Narragansett beer went out of business years ago, although the name might have been resurrected.

When it comes to bad beer, I have a dim, mostly repressed, memory of Iron City which was made in the brewing center of the planet: Pittsburg. On a good day it tasted like rusty iron filings dissolved in nitric acid. After that the flavor went down hill fast. It might have been the source of the quote: "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger".

Posted by: JTB at May 30, 2015 01:47 PM (FvdPb)

177 * contemplates the built-in, fold-down ironing board card *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:32 PM (n6Nt0)

*raises one laundry chute in the bathroom*

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 30, 2015 01:49 PM (mwzXN)

178 I love bourbon. I'm not at all concerned about who makes what, whether it's merely been rectified and rebottled -- if I can tell the difference between two brands, it doesn't matter if they were distilled in the same massive distillery.

Here are my current favorites:

Russell's Reserve single-barrel. Smooth and buttery, despite 110 proof.

Woodford Reserve: Uniquely nice nose, shmoooth.

Eagle Rare: Complex, brown-sugary.

My favorite way to drink it: A mint julep. You have to cut anything more than 80 proof, to taste anything but alcohol burn.

Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2015 01:52 PM (pCf+a)

179 165
I enjoy Rebel Yell. It's a decent bourbon, and carries a panache in these parts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2015 01:30 PM (n6Nt0)

Use to be only sold in the South. The same stuff is sold as Weller's up north. All made at Heaven Hill distillery in KY.

They use to advertise with me. I also like George Dickel. They did a special bottle for the SCV convention in Nashville.

http://tinyurl.com/pqon3rk

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 01:56 PM (0FSuD)

180 171
I like the old 50's style decor. I wasn't even alive but I know it was a better time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 30, 2015 01:37 PM (RoiEH)

I was born in 1958, so I got the slightest taste of 1950s America, although I don't remember it.

My parents bought this house in 1969. I grew up here, then went off to college and got my own apartment.

I moved back in after my mom died in 2001, and my dad's health was failing. He left it to me in his will, so here I am.

I've lived here off and on since I was 11. It's home to me, and I'll probably die here. It's interesting to see all of the additions and improvements that other homeowners have done in this neighborhood. But this house is still mostly original.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 01:57 PM (sdi6R)

181 My dad drank Old Crow for years. Good cheap booze. A little harsh for me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 01:57 PM (0FSuD)

182 Evan Williams has a single-barrel vintage exclusive to Cap N' Cork for their Bourbon Trail promotion -- the 2003 version is one of my favorite mixers. $25-ish a bottle.

Great in a Scofflaw.

Cocktails are bourbon's great advantage over Scotch whisky. Whiskies are just too damned smokey and don't mix well, so you're stuck with a tumbler of liquid smoke. Yum. Might as well suck on a charcoal briquet.

Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2015 02:00 PM (pCf+a)

183 Good lord. Modern booze made in high quality stainless steel vessels is as good as booze made in copper. I defy CBD to know the difference between the two by simply tasting the finished product.

Copper mash kettles require shatloads of extra maintenance, that's why the one pictured on the OP has a sandwiched stainless steel heat sink bottom.

I know, I worked at Sierra Nevada Brewery 1989 to 2004 - and our first brew house copper kettle and lauder tun were imported from Germany.

The kettle was directly heated from huge natural gas burners - every year we shut the BH down and damaged copper on the bottom of the kettle was repaired with special cooper wire silver solder. or something ;P

The only difference in finished product resulted not from copper/stainless cooking but from some batches put in top fermenting open primary fermenters versus closed uni-tank primary fermenters.

Me? I could never tell the difference in product between open and closed primary fermentation, but some swore by it.

vive la difference, right?

Posted by: 13times at May 30, 2015 02:04 PM (WHVu+)

184 My favorite Scotch whisky: The Glenfarclas, single highland malt, aged 21 years.

43% alcohol, so yeah, I have to add a few drops of water, or rely on my saliva (produced copiously as a defense mechanism to what your body senses is a poisonous concentration of alcohol) to dilute it. Smooth, not too bad. About as good as the worst bourbon I've ever tasted. And just $100 a bottle, what a bargain. I keep it around just in case some whisky snob visits.

Worst Scotch whisky: The Laphroaig. It took two days, and I am not exaggerating, to get the taste of smoke, charred filth, and burnt tar out of my mouth. It took weeks to forget that taste as it lingered in my nightmares.

Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2015 02:07 PM (pCf+a)

185 Me? I could never tell the difference in product between open and closed primary fermentation, but some swore by it.

vive la difference, right?

Posted by: 13times at May 30, 2015 02:04 PM (WHVu+)

NOW that is a cool story. I suspect cooper is more fragile.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 02:14 PM (0FSuD)

186 184
Worst Scotch whisky: The Laphroaig. It took two days, and I am not exaggerating, to get the taste of smoke, charred filth, and burnt tar out of my mouth. It took weeks to forget that taste as it lingered in my nightmares.

Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2015 02:07 PM (pCf+a)

Yeah. I've tried several Scotch whiskeys, and most of them are pretty good.

I've had a 2/3 full bottle of Laphroaig for about a year now. I tried drinking it straight, and yikes!

I've also added a little of it when I ran low on my other whiskies. The taste completely overpowers anything else. That shit is vile.

Posted by: rickl at May 30, 2015 02:18 PM (sdi6R)

187 So how is the Bulleit/Four Roses combo any different than Van Winkle/Buffalo Trace? There isn't a Van Winkle distillery just like there isn't a Bulleit distillery. Mr. Van Winkle is a nice guy, family friend, but he's selling a story as well. True?

Posted by: NCKate at May 30, 2015 02:31 PM (zGDNi)

188 Scotch? It's what bourbon taste like with a burned out cigarette floating in it the glass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 30, 2015 12:38 PM (0FSuD)
Consider that stolen. I will use that the next time I'm talking to a Scotch-Snob.

Posted by: Paladin at May 30, 2015 02:34 PM (LtaK3)

189 I like sweet young things with Old Grandad!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 30, 2015 03:01 PM (JO9+V)

190 Hey, the second photo is the kind of thing I do!

Posted by: PiperPaul at May 30, 2015 03:14 PM (vacPn)

191 Old Frothingslosh beer
The beer with the head on the bottom!

Posted by: Oleg Casino at May 30, 2015 03:43 PM (85ldL)

192 That is Anthony Bourdain narrating and he's awesome. He and Mike Rowe both have shows on CNN now, which I guess I'll download illegally because I'm not turning on CNN.

And I'm pleased to find out that my brand, Eagle Rare, is made by Buffalo Trace in an actual Kentucky distillery.

Posted by: 3.14159 at May 30, 2015 03:48 PM (U4PXs)

193 176 JTB. That's PittsburgH with an H.

I grew up there and avoided Iron Shitty like the plague. Preferred Duquesne ("Duke") myself.

Posted by: Ab at May 30, 2015 06:25 PM (DBEQZ)

194 Ha.

I love Bulleit.

Whatever.

Posted by: LauderdaleVet at May 31, 2015 09:56 AM (P3mQW)

195 Worst Scotch whisky: The Laphroaig. It took two
days, and I am not exaggerating, to get the taste of smoke, charred
filth, and burnt tar out of my mouth. It took weeks to forget that
taste as it lingered in my nightmares.

Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2015 02:07 PM (pCf+a)

Maybe you could use it to freshen up your mangina?

Posted by: Unclefacts Meteor-Summoner What Was Involved In The Infamy at May 31, 2015 04:39 PM (UHJpJ)

196 IMO, where price is a consideration:

Best sipping bourbon - Makers Mark 46.
Best bourbon for sipping or mixing - Buffalo Trace.
Best Canadian whiskey - Forty Creek.
Best new whiskey - TX Blended Whiskey

Posted by: Felix at May 31, 2015 06:06 PM (l1TkQ)

197 I buy what taste's good. Period. I am a big fan of Bulleit and will continue to purchase and drink. Ryers vs. wheaters for this guy. Four Roses single barrel very good too. Hey who reported this, Bloomberg? Ain't that libtard anti-2nd Amendment? What else yah need to know, pilgrim?
BTW, Narragansett was a brew from Cranston RI that is loong gone. Exists in name only, just like the State of RI! Fittin'!

Posted by: Auggie at May 31, 2015 08:24 PM (MaSlg)

198 Did anyone else notice in the movie "The Green Berets" that Sgt. Peter-san kept by his bunk a Jim Beam mini-barrel display set that opened up to reveal 2 bottles and 2 glasses?

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at May 31, 2015 09:52 PM (MJN9k)

199 Knob Creek is my go to Whiskey.

My Grandpa was from Scotland and of course drank scotch. About 15 years ago, when all Whiskey's pretty much tasted the same to me (I was only 21), I had a bartender line up 6 different scotches in a blind taste test, my grandpa named each one by taste.

Posted by: Blooshier at May 31, 2015 11:45 PM (p2q3U)

200 I enjoy Bulleit (both regular and the rye) so it's like hotdogs to me. As long as I like the taste, I don't care how it's made. I also like 1792 and Breckenridge. And Bookers-I am reminded of the Anchorman Sex Panther scene-I have to be honest, that Bookers tastes like pure gasoline.

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at June 01, 2015 11:03 AM (rtZ6u)

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