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Republican Support of Republican Leadership Dropping Like a Stone
The reviews are in for Corker's, McConnell's, and Boehner's opus "Failure Theater," and they're not good.
Fully three-quarters of Republicans want the leadership to challenge Obama more often. But McConnell and Boehner, eyeing those more equivocal independent numbers, won’t do that. And why should they? The genius of "failure theater" is that, as the failures pile up, the argument for electing more Republicans perversely grows stronger among the base. You can’t expect McConnell to go to the mat on executive amnesty when he has "only" 54 votes in the Senate, not nearly enough to break a filibuster. Give him 57 or 58 votes, though, and who knows? Maybe he can shake loose a few Democrats and force an Obama veto.At some point, a great mass of people will come to the conclusion I (and many before me did), and that will be that for the Republican Party.
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Whigs all around.
Posted by: HH at May 22, 2015 12:34 PM (Ce4DF)
2
Take out the trash. Now.
Posted by: Ever at May 22, 2015 12:34 PM (QZdJj)
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I haven't supported any of these RINOs for a long long time. I can not understand how the members keep electing them except that the bulk of the members are all assholes as well.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 22, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
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Not a penny more. I'm done.
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 22, 2015 12:35 PM (fMQoG)
5
Heh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 12:35 PM (A/FjS)
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Things will be different with a republican president. You just wait and see.
[different doesn't necessarily equate to better]
[different doesn't necessarily equate to better]
Posted by: Old Man Dester Giggens at May 22, 2015 12:36 PM (agDxX)
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I'm done with em. McConnell, boehner, etc can go pound sand.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:36 PM (9K3Nr)
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If Florida didn't have closed primaries, I would turn in my membership in the Republican Party and send the state party a letter explaining why.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (1xUj/)
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Why should we bother trying to rescue a country that hates us and is mathematically doomed by debt and demographics?
Why should we bother trying to rescue a country that hates us and is mathematically doomed by debt and demographics?
Posted by: imp at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (XIXZz)
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I'm not the candidate you need, but I am the one you deserve.
Posted by: Jebba The Hutt at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (8LYYk)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 22, 2015 12:38 PM (5KY1+)
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I was happy to let them know about it too, when they mailed me a donation request. Getting that shit off my shoulders was worth the price of the stamp, even though I know no one important will ever see it.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:38 PM (9K3Nr)
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BUT, BUT, BUT,
The narrative from the master is now and will be up to lerver time,
if you do not vote for RINO your just throwing your vote away...
As the wind blows the fishrap across the empty street...
the marquee still reads,
there is still time brother.
The narrative from the master is now and will be up to lerver time,
if you do not vote for RINO your just throwing your vote away...
As the wind blows the fishrap across the empty street...
the marquee still reads,
there is still time brother.
Posted by: I am Here!!!! at May 22, 2015 12:38 PM (/WmRg)
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All according to plan...
Posted by: Your Progressive Overlords at May 22, 2015 12:39 PM (7YlUk)
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Good Lord. 66% of Democrats believe that "Republicans should go along more" with Obama. Obama is already wearing most of them on his dick. How much more of this can we take?
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 22, 2015 12:39 PM (fMQoG)
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I've voted for McCain's primary opponent the last 2 Senate elections. Several posters here told me J.D. Hayworth couldn't be trusted. Right.
Posted by: 141Driver at May 22, 2015 12:39 PM (Xwpes)
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As if they gave 2 fks, ace.
Posted by: Bruce But Not Jenner at May 22, 2015 12:39 PM (iQIUe)
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...It's not Boehner and McConnell.
We could put new people in leadership, it would be the same story.
It's just how DC operates and has operated for years. Yes, it's becoming more obvious now, but I mean...
We could put new people in leadership, it would be the same story.
It's just how DC operates and has operated for years. Yes, it's becoming more obvious now, but I mean...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (AkOaV)
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It is the Bruce Jenner Party.
Posted by: Yes means Maybe at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (7wyDO)
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Oh boy, is the Left going to take advantage of this Josh Duggar controversy to continue their assault on Christianity and traditional marriage.
As if some reality star represents all Christians and traditional marriage proponents.
This is going to get real ugly, real quick.
Fuck Josh Duggar in particular. My nieces are fans of that show, and they are too young to understand incest and sexual abuse.
This pisses me off but good.
As if some reality star represents all Christians and traditional marriage proponents.
This is going to get real ugly, real quick.
Fuck Josh Duggar in particular. My nieces are fans of that show, and they are too young to understand incest and sexual abuse.
This pisses me off but good.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Dare to be Hat at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (7YlUk)
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**hic**
I'm only joined the Re-publicans because I thought it had a bunch of second chance bar owners in it.
**hic**
I'm only joined the Re-publicans because I thought it had a bunch of second chance bar owners in it.
**hic**
Posted by: John Bonehead at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (dkfG0)
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So a mosque blew up in Saudi Arabia? Was it a butt bomb?
Posted by: Bruce But Not Jenner at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: kathysaysso at May 22, 2015 12:39 PM (fMQoG)
Eh 66% of democrats will always believe the R's should go along more with them.
Eh 66% of democrats will always believe the R's should go along more with them.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (U8W/7)
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I don't care if the conservatives spin off from the GOP. To hell with the GOP. They are a bought and paid for wing of the Democrats.
Either the entire GOP leadership steps down and people like Gohmert and Mike Lee are elevated or it's over.
We have nothing to lose.
I don't care if the conservatives spin off from the GOP. To hell with the GOP. They are a bought and paid for wing of the Democrats.
Either the entire GOP leadership steps down and people like Gohmert and Mike Lee are elevated or it's over.
We have nothing to lose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (St6BJ)
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PAR-TAY! (hic)
Posted by: Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (+jijM)
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Come on guys, I've been really effective.
___
You should see the salary of the do nothing job I have lined up after I leave congress! You'd be proud of my negotiating skills!
But you clingers just can't see the big picture can you?
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You should see the salary of the do nothing job I have lined up after I leave congress! You'd be proud of my negotiating skills!
But you clingers just can't see the big picture can you?
Posted by: John Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (78TbK)
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I think they intetionally stretch out their aholes so they can pack as much C4 inside. I bet they use rdbrewer's colon-rectal guy to help them.
I think they intetionally stretch out their aholes so they can pack as much C4 inside. I bet they use rdbrewer's colon-rectal guy to help them.
Posted by: Bruce But Not Jenner at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (iQIUe)
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Takeaway: With more Republican votes we could fail on an even larger scale.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (8ZskC)
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If Florida didn't have closed primaries, I would turn in my membership in the Republican Party and send the state party a letter explaining why.
1. Me too.
2. The letter would accomplish just as much as the last call to my congresscritter: exactly nothing, since the asshole ignored me like he always does.
#WASTF
I'm glad I'm old.
1. Me too.
2. The letter would accomplish just as much as the last call to my congresscritter: exactly nothing, since the asshole ignored me like he always does.
#WASTF
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (0HooB)
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Ok sure, we said we couldn't do anything with only the House, but after getting the Senate, we realized what we REALLY need is also the Presidency.
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?
Right??
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?
Right??
Posted by: GOP apologist whose memory starts at 2006 at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (xSCb6)
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Things will be different with a republican president. You just wait and see.
___
Hey, I'll run Leviathan competently.
___
Hey, I'll run Leviathan competently.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: John Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (7YlUk)
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Either the entire GOP leadership steps down and people like Gohmert and Mike Lee are elevated or it's over.
We have nothing to lose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (St6BJ)
They aren't going anywhere, no matter what we do. You only have to look at the Mississippi Senate election to realize that.
We have nothing to lose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (St6BJ)
They aren't going anywhere, no matter what we do. You only have to look at the Mississippi Senate election to realize that.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (9K3Nr)
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Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the
party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope
of government. Right?
____
Yeah, that's right!
party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope
of government. Right?
____
Yeah, that's right!
Posted by: Bush 43 from 2004-6 at May 22, 2015 12:44 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 22, 2015 12:44 PM (78TbK)
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Republican "leadership" #Dead2Me
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 22, 2015 12:45 PM (L52Oz)
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Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (9K3Nr)
Yeah I used to believe the primaries were how you directed the party, but the MS senate mess showed me that's just not true.
Yeah I used to believe the primaries were how you directed the party, but the MS senate mess showed me that's just not true.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:46 PM (U8W/7)
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At least the comments are still free.
Posted by: Killerdog at May 22, 2015 12:46 PM (/mhj3)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (5KY1+)
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Some days I wonder if their current actions are revenge for us trying to take out (sometimes successfully) some of their butt buddies. I have no doubt that they are a dirty rotten vengeful den of snakes.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (9K3Nr)
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Yeah I used to believe the primaries were how you directed the party, but the MS senate mess showed me that's just not true.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:46 PM (U8W/7)
You didn't think it would be that easy, did you?
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:46 PM (U8W/7)
You didn't think it would be that easy, did you?
Posted by: O-Ren Ishii at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (7YlUk)
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I'm not voting for Jeb Bush.
Posted by: Mike at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (1V9qu)
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Posted by: Citizen X at May 22, 2015 12:40 PM (7ObY1)
Yeah. Some twisted shit going on in the Duggar house, apparently.
But, uh, how is that any different than what Lena Dunham jokes about doing to her sister in her hook? In fact, from whats been reported, what Lena did was much worse.
Yeah. Some twisted shit going on in the Duggar house, apparently.
But, uh, how is that any different than what Lena Dunham jokes about doing to her sister in her hook? In fact, from whats been reported, what Lena did was much worse.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (AkOaV)
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4 Not a penny more. I'm done.
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 22, 2015 12:35 PM (fMQoG)
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Me too. I saved up all the Repub mailers begging for alms, tore them into shreds, stuffed them into one of the prepaid envelopes, and mailed it back to the MD Republican Party saying "Not one fucking penny until you punch back twice as hard".
Won't make a dent in their pocketbook but it sure made me feel better, and feelings are more important than facts, right?
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 22, 2015 12:35 PM (fMQoG)
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Me too. I saved up all the Repub mailers begging for alms, tore them into shreds, stuffed them into one of the prepaid envelopes, and mailed it back to the MD Republican Party saying "Not one fucking penny until you punch back twice as hard".
Won't make a dent in their pocketbook but it sure made me feel better, and feelings are more important than facts, right?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (7YlUk)
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Seems there are as many LIV's on the right as the left.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (/4JFs)
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What happened in the Duggar house?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (xSCb6)
52
Damn
Rush has the Ministry of Truth cold. Got'em on tape revising history.
F... it!
I'm going to McDonalds for chicken parts.
Rush has the Ministry of Truth cold. Got'em on tape revising history.
F... it!
I'm going to McDonalds for chicken parts.
Posted by: Old Man Dester Giggens at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (agDxX)
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Well there P-Hat sock, to be fair, the dems used primaries to drag their party farther left.
But that ratchet only goes one way.
But that ratchet only goes one way.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (U8W/7)
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But the honor of the senate has been restored! Look at all the bills we're passing, and bipartisanship between Republican leadership and the president. Once we have all 3 branches of government, then we can stop all of this failure theater nonsense and move on to completely ignoring you.
Posted by: Sen. Mitch McConnell at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (gLh1U)
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I don't need to invest any more emotional energy and money into the Washington Generals. I've already got the St. Louis Blues that provide months of promise, only to stab me in the back each time things start to get real.
Work provides some level of stress. We're expecting a kid. Why do I need to let these assholes push me to the brink of anxiety? I probably will still vote, because I do hate Hillary that much, which I suppose is the entire point. They'll get my vote 1 day, and they'll get their pockets lined the other 1460 days.
Work provides some level of stress. We're expecting a kid. Why do I need to let these assholes push me to the brink of anxiety? I probably will still vote, because I do hate Hillary that much, which I suppose is the entire point. They'll get my vote 1 day, and they'll get their pockets lined the other 1460 days.
Posted by: Dave S. at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (mhkbv)
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Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:47 PM (9K3Nr)
Of course it is.
They are still recoiling and seething over 2010, when we primaried half the party.
Why do you think the bi-partisan hatred for the Kochs is so strong? Not because they donated to Rs, but because they donated to non-incumbents.
Of course it is.
They are still recoiling and seething over 2010, when we primaried half the party.
Why do you think the bi-partisan hatred for the Kochs is so strong? Not because they donated to Rs, but because they donated to non-incumbents.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (AkOaV)
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Hey, it's not GOP leadership's fault. People who vote GOP should already know they're going to get a deep dicking
Posted by: The Dude at May 22, 2015 12:49 PM (SyKbw)
58
2. The letter would accomplish just as much as the last call to my congresscritter: exactly nothing, since the asshole ignored me like he always does.
#WASTF
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (0HooB)
I know. I have no illusions that it would make one damn bit of difference, but the catharsis would feel good.
#WASTF
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 12:41 PM (0HooB)
I know. I have no illusions that it would make one damn bit of difference, but the catharsis would feel good.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 12:49 PM (2Ojst)
59
Does that mean I have to learn to love Hillary??
Posted by: Colin at May 22, 2015 12:49 PM (rOQws)
60
Seems there are as many LIV's on the right as the left.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (/4JFs)
Shhh!
O'Reilly is on!
Posted by: Ben Had at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (/4JFs)
Shhh!
O'Reilly is on!
Posted by: Fox News Fan at May 22, 2015 12:49 PM (7YlUk)
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Stockades. Tar.
Feathers and Rail.
All of these would help our Republican Leadership learn lessons in humility and dutiful obligation.
Feathers and Rail.
All of these would help our Republican Leadership learn lessons in humility and dutiful obligation.
Posted by: Garrett at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (CnmVh)
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33 Ok sure, we said we couldn't do anything with only the House, but "After getting the Senate, we realized what we REALLY need is also the Presidency.
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?"
Then we'll be told that we need 60% of the Senate seats.
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?"
Then we'll be told that we need 60% of the Senate seats.
Posted by: Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (+jijM)
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Yeah, that's brilliant. Leave the Republican party. Start a party with Mark Levin and just yell at people all day. And by all means don't let people like Rubio, Portman, Johnson or Cotton in your new party. Oh no, not those RINOs. Good luck -- all 50 or so of you in the new pure party. Oh, and don't forget to throw overboard all those RINOs who are in State governments. All those Republicans who have the strongest majority in the States since the 1920s. They are no good either.
Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (GtxgK)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (659DL)
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Honestly, of the 54 you have, how many are actually worth a damn? 10? 20?
We all know some of the more popular names among conservatives, but they are dwarfed by the Gopes who occupy most of those 54 seats. Missouri has 1 Republican Senator: Roy Blunt. You can't get any more Gopey than Roy. When he runs again, he'll get elected. Or he'll hand the seat to someone he picks... possibly his son.
Frankly, at this point I don't want to hear how rank and file Senators are "fed up" with leadership. Come out and say so. Name yourselves. Shout it from the Capitol steps. You might disappoint some of your beltway friends if you do, but you also might have a hand in saving your country.
Which matters more to you?
We all know some of the more popular names among conservatives, but they are dwarfed by the Gopes who occupy most of those 54 seats. Missouri has 1 Republican Senator: Roy Blunt. You can't get any more Gopey than Roy. When he runs again, he'll get elected. Or he'll hand the seat to someone he picks... possibly his son.
Frankly, at this point I don't want to hear how rank and file Senators are "fed up" with leadership. Come out and say so. Name yourselves. Shout it from the Capitol steps. You might disappoint some of your beltway friends if you do, but you also might have a hand in saving your country.
Which matters more to you?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (TOk1P)
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Posted by: The Political Hat at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (7YlUk)
Easy to say, hard to deal with. The other tools in our box seem not to be very useful either.
Sure we can withdrawn, form a 3rd party, but all the while things keep getting worse (and less fixable.)
Easy to say, hard to deal with. The other tools in our box seem not to be very useful either.
Sure we can withdrawn, form a 3rd party, but all the while things keep getting worse (and less fixable.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (U8W/7)
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Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 12:48 PM (xSCb6)
InTouch Weekly FOIA'ed a police report from 2006 in which the oldest Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least some of whom were his sisters.
Apparently it happened in '02ish, and was never reported to the police until someone outside the family found out about it in 2006. No charges were filed.
InTouch Weekly FOIA'ed a police report from 2006 in which the oldest Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least some of whom were his sisters.
Apparently it happened in '02ish, and was never reported to the police until someone outside the family found out about it in 2006. No charges were filed.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:51 PM (AkOaV)
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Republicans can go horsefuck.
They *like* having obama in the White House; they *like* his agenda.
Republicans can go horsefuck.
They *like* having obama in the White House; they *like* his agenda.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 22, 2015 12:51 PM (Z1in4)
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After After Boehner and McConnell caved to Barry days after taking full control of Congress, that was it for me with the GOP. The only way they get my vote is if they actually run a conservative. And fat chance of that. Screw 'em.
Posted by: jrg at May 22, 2015 12:51 PM (3qRJf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 12:51 PM (gW5Vg)
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Reposted from the dead thread but relevant here.
Whatever, dude. I don't really care why as long as it gets done.
http://tinyurl.com/km4vbbb
Whatever, dude. I don't really care why as long as it gets done.
http://tinyurl.com/km4vbbb
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 12:51 PM (XUKZU)
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*draws little hearts around "Barack and Mitch" on his Trapper Keeper*
*draws little hearts around "Barack and Mitch" on his Trapper Keeper*
Posted by: Sen. McConnell (R.-Graft) at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (ZtFr+)
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Doom.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (itP1/)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (AkOaV)
75
All roads lead to Let It Burn.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (JO9+V)
76
Secret Deals and Trade Agreements by Exec and Legislative branches, just as the Founders envisioned.
That's the ticket.
Oblahblah is at recent high approval ratings however.
Boned.
Secret Deals and Trade Agreements by Exec and Legislative branches, just as the Founders envisioned.
That's the ticket.
Oblahblah is at recent high approval ratings however.
Boned.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (ODxAs)
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Look, it's important to fight the fights you can't win because it lays the groundwork for winning later. You make your arguments, you show the public you're sincere about your agenda.
The progs didn't give up on gay marriage even when it was unpopular, and their not giving up on gun control even though it's very unpopular.
The progs didn't give up on gay marriage even when it was unpopular, and their not giving up on gun control even though it's very unpopular.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (O7MnT)
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A year ago, Lee Rigby had his head cut off by evil on a London Street. BBC news doesnt even mention it.
A year ago, Lee Rigby had his head cut off by evil on a London Street. BBC news doesnt even mention it.
Posted by: Bruce But Not Jenner at May 22, 2015 12:52 PM (iQIUe)
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I'm not voting for Jeb Bush.
***
I think some time soon the right-o-sphere should put together a list of DIABLOS it will not vote for in the general election. THE JEB should entry #1 on that list.
I didn't vote for Mitt Romneycare and I'm not going to vote for Jeb "Andale" Bushamensty
***
I think some time soon the right-o-sphere should put together a list of DIABLOS it will not vote for in the general election. THE JEB should entry #1 on that list.
I didn't vote for Mitt Romneycare and I'm not going to vote for Jeb "Andale" Bushamensty
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:53 PM (78TbK)
80
You could have 100% Republican rule in Washington and nothing would change, because Republicans obey the liberal press and play to them.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM (BtYT7)
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37 They aren't going anywhere, no matter what we do. You only have to look at the Mississippi Senate election to realize that.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (9K3Nr)
Then, it's war. As if it hasn't been. But we have to fight it like it is.
The most perilous time in the nation's history and we do not have an opposition party.
G-d is testing us.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:43 PM (9K3Nr)
Then, it's war. As if it hasn't been. But we have to fight it like it is.
The most perilous time in the nation's history and we do not have an opposition party.
G-d is testing us.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM (St6BJ)
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InTouch Weekly FOIA'ed a police report from 2006 in which the oldest
Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least
some of whom were his sisters.
***
So, the Duggar boy and and Lena Dunham sure have a lot in common it sounds like.
InTouch Weekly FOIA'ed a police report from 2006 in which the oldest
Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least
some of whom were his sisters.
***
So, the Duggar boy and and Lena Dunham sure have a lot in common it sounds like.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM (78TbK)
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2008 hurt me.
2012 almost broke me.
2014 Mississippi Senate opened my eyes to what I was really dealing with. Republican leadership (and others like them) hate me as much as Democrats do.
They aren't interested in helping me or you. They aren't interested in saving this country.
2012 almost broke me.
2014 Mississippi Senate opened my eyes to what I was really dealing with. Republican leadership (and others like them) hate me as much as Democrats do.
They aren't interested in helping me or you. They aren't interested in saving this country.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:55 PM (9K3Nr)
84
@82 - that was about my first reaction as well.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 22, 2015 12:55 PM (o+SC1)
85
Time to have the biggest Tea Party/conservative groups organize a rally and demand McConnell, Boehner and their teams RESIGN immediately from leadership.
Fuck the GOP. Fuck that party to Hell. I am sick of them.
Time to have the biggest Tea Party/conservative groups organize a rally and demand McConnell, Boehner and their teams RESIGN immediately from leadership.
Fuck the GOP. Fuck that party to Hell. I am sick of them.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (St6BJ)
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Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM (78TbK)
Sounds like it.
Although as far as I know, the Duggar kid (he's now in his mid-late 20s, so maybe "kid" isn't the right word) has not accused any pseudonyms of rape, so... he has that going for him
Sounds like it.
Although as far as I know, the Duggar kid (he's now in his mid-late 20s, so maybe "kid" isn't the right word) has not accused any pseudonyms of rape, so... he has that going for him
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (AkOaV)
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And by all means don't let people like Rubio, Portman, Johnson or Cotton in your new party. Oh no, not those RINOs. Good luck -- all 50 or so of you in the new pure party. Oh, and don't forget to throw overboard all those RINOs who are in State governments. All those Republicans who have the strongest majority in the States since the 1920s. They are no good either.
Posted by: Alix
You fucking idiot.
The Stupid party is coming up with new ways to give up and spend money, and you're pretending that the problem is purity?
Purity = doing what the Hell you said that you were going to do.
And no one is throwing anyone anywhere you lying sack of shit. Leaving means just that.
Tool.
Posted by: Alix
You fucking idiot.
The Stupid party is coming up with new ways to give up and spend money, and you're pretending that the problem is purity?
Purity = doing what the Hell you said that you were going to do.
And no one is throwing anyone anywhere you lying sack of shit. Leaving means just that.
Tool.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (Spluw)
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OK, give us 67 votes in the senate, AND the presidency AND control of the media AND the Supreme Court and then we'll really REALLY get to work on that conservative agenda thingy
Posted by: The Republican Party at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (O7MnT)
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Republican leadership (and others like them) hate me as much as Democrats do.
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The Republican leadership disagrees with the Dems on only one thing really...who should control Leviathan.
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The Republican leadership disagrees with the Dems on only one thing really...who should control Leviathan.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (78TbK)
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Ok sure, we said we couldn't do anything with only the House, but "After getting the Senate, we realized what we REALLY need is also the Presidency.
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?"
Then we'll be told that we need 60% of the Senate seats.
Posted by: Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (+jijM)
Obama has established that we have an Imperial Presidency.
All we need it a candidate who will have the balls to crush our enemies... both foreign and domestic.
Then, and ONLY then can, we accomplish some of our core planks in the party platform such as cutting spending and reducing the size and scope of government. Right?"
Then we'll be told that we need 60% of the Senate seats.
Posted by: Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (+jijM)
Obama has established that we have an Imperial Presidency.
All we need it a candidate who will have the balls to crush our enemies... both foreign and domestic.
Posted by: The Imperial Hat at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (7YlUk)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (St6BJ)
but do you really think replacing Boehner and/or McConnell with someone else will really change anything?
but do you really think replacing Boehner and/or McConnell with someone else will really change anything?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:57 PM (AkOaV)
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My fellow Rubes ... ehr Republicans ... You can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked
up... you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help ... send us more money, vote for our good amigo Jeb and quit expecting miracles ... after all we only control 1 branch of government and you really can't expect us to do anything merely because some old piece of paper says that we're supposed to control spending, ratify agreements with other countries and approve nominations.
up... you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help ... send us more money, vote for our good amigo Jeb and quit expecting miracles ... after all we only control 1 branch of government and you really can't expect us to do anything merely because some old piece of paper says that we're supposed to control spending, ratify agreements with other countries and approve nominations.
Posted by: Mitch 'Otter' McConnel & John 'Bluto' Boehner at May 22, 2015 12:57 PM (i4eXO)
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88 OK, give us 67 votes in the senate, AND the presidency AND control of the media AND the Supreme Court and then we'll really REALLY get to work on that conservative agenda thingy
Posted by: The Republican Party at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (O7MnT)
If the GOP had 100 senators, 430-odd congress vermin and the presidency, they would spend more, regulate more and whine more than they ever did.
Posted by: The Republican Party at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (O7MnT)
If the GOP had 100 senators, 430-odd congress vermin and the presidency, they would spend more, regulate more and whine more than they ever did.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:57 PM (St6BJ)
94
2014 Mississippi Senate opened my eyes to what I was
really dealing with. Republican leadership (and others like them) hate
me as much as Democrats do.
They aren't interested in helping me or you. They aren't interested in saving this country.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:55 PM (9K3Nr)
-----
Same here on 2014 MS. Our brand of conservatism isn't all that popular, even among R voters, unfortunately.
really dealing with. Republican leadership (and others like them) hate
me as much as Democrats do.
They aren't interested in helping me or you. They aren't interested in saving this country.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 12:55 PM (9K3Nr)
-----
Same here on 2014 MS. Our brand of conservatism isn't all that popular, even among R voters, unfortunately.
Posted by: Dave S. at May 22, 2015 12:58 PM (mhkbv)
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I'm a lifelong Republican, and I support my party's leadership. The biggest problem we have are the radical extremists trying to seize control.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (Ui7Rt)
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91 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:56 PM (St6BJ)
but do you really think replacing Boehner and/or McConnell with someone else will really change anything?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:57 PM (AkOaV)
I want them replaced with Gohmert and Mike Lee and the committee chairmanships similarly led.
But, in reality, that ain't ever gonna happen.
I'm venting. I'm beyond angry.
but do you really think replacing Boehner and/or McConnell with someone else will really change anything?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 12:57 PM (AkOaV)
I want them replaced with Gohmert and Mike Lee and the committee chairmanships similarly led.
But, in reality, that ain't ever gonna happen.
I'm venting. I'm beyond angry.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (St6BJ)
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"Purity" is just the party hacks way of deflecting from the fact that Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are enacting the Obama Agenda they ran on opposing.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (O7MnT)
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Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (GtxgK)
Oh yay, another asshole who likes to toss around the "pure" pejorative.
But that's ok, you keep voting for a party that delivers the same results as Democrats (just less effectively) and thinking that's somehow going to magically change one day just because you did what you thought was your civic duty.
The "pure" position is one that's arrived at by examining history, results, and facts to draw a differing conclusion from outdated conventional wisdom.
The Head Up The Ass position only requires that you base your life's important decisions off of a label.
You keep giving us Leftism. Fcuk you. Seriously, I'm tired of you self-righteous imbeciles. Fcuk off.
Oh yay, another asshole who likes to toss around the "pure" pejorative.
But that's ok, you keep voting for a party that delivers the same results as Democrats (just less effectively) and thinking that's somehow going to magically change one day just because you did what you thought was your civic duty.
The "pure" position is one that's arrived at by examining history, results, and facts to draw a differing conclusion from outdated conventional wisdom.
The Head Up The Ass position only requires that you base your life's important decisions off of a label.
You keep giving us Leftism. Fcuk you. Seriously, I'm tired of you self-righteous imbeciles. Fcuk off.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (xSCb6)
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I think they intetionally stretch out their aholes so they can pack as much C4 inside.
I believe the ancient Greek Republican cry of defiance "Anal Lube!" loosely translates into "Come and dork them!"
I believe the ancient Greek Republican cry of defiance "Anal Lube!" loosely translates into "Come and dork them!"
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (G4aHK)
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95 I'm a lifelong Republican, and I support my party's leadership. The biggest problem we have are the radical extremists trying to seize control.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (Ui7Rt)
They already are in control, stevia-tits.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (Ui7Rt)
They already are in control, stevia-tits.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (St6BJ)
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All we need it a candidate who will have the balls to crush our enemies... both foreign and domestic.
***
One point to consider in looking at candidates is willingness to fight. This is actually a major weakness on R the side. I don't see a lot of guys who've shown they will actually FIGHT...or more specifically fight against the left. You've got maybe Walker, Cruz, and Rand Paul.
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One point to consider in looking at candidates is willingness to fight. This is actually a major weakness on R the side. I don't see a lot of guys who've shown they will actually FIGHT...or more specifically fight against the left. You've got maybe Walker, Cruz, and Rand Paul.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (78TbK)
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We are in 2015, so the dirty laundry has to be done now because nothing will happen in 2016. In 2016 it will be all about the presidential contenders and Congress will lay low. Been that way forever. If you want Pubs to do your bidding, you are going to have to outbid the special interests. Congress doesn't run on Unicorn Farts.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (oDCMR)
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G-d is testing us.
And we're failing.
I guess the best thing to do is just let the world go on being a wretched hive of scum and villainy since there is precious little that can be done to reverse it, and just concentrate on doing the best we can with ourselves and our families.
This is the only thing holding what little bit of sanity I have left together.
And we're failing.
I guess the best thing to do is just let the world go on being a wretched hive of scum and villainy since there is precious little that can be done to reverse it, and just concentrate on doing the best we can with ourselves and our families.
This is the only thing holding what little bit of sanity I have left together.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (0HooB)
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I've voted in every election since 1980. Every election, spring locals, nationals, primaries. Not in 2016. I've been let down too many times. Let down? Hell, beat over the head with a shit bucket is more like it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)
105
8 If Florida didn't have closed primaries, I would turn in my membership in the Republican Party and send the state party a letter explaining why.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (2Ojst)
PA is closed as well but I dropped out. Screw 'em.
Senator ran as a conservative and turns into a RINO
Rep ran as a conservative and didn't even last two weeks.
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 12:37 PM (2Ojst)
PA is closed as well but I dropped out. Screw 'em.
Senator ran as a conservative and turns into a RINO
Rep ran as a conservative and didn't even last two weeks.
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (JOG+K)
106
Same here on 2014 MS. Our brand of conservatism isn't all that popular, even among R voters, unfortunately.
***
Most voters don't care enough to look into details.
***
Most voters don't care enough to look into details.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (78TbK)
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Posted by: Dave S. at May 22, 2015 12:58 PM (mhkbv)
I don't know that that's true.
I think "our brand of conservatism" (which is wildly divergent even in the comments here) is / would be more popular, but the media (including FNC) brand us as "extremists" so the LIV types don't even hear us out.
But talk to MOST people 1 on 1, and they agree with MOST of things I/we believe if you spell it out for them in a non-condescending way.
But, whatever. The establishment owns the money, the press, and the nomination process.
I don't know that that's true.
I think "our brand of conservatism" (which is wildly divergent even in the comments here) is / would be more popular, but the media (including FNC) brand us as "extremists" so the LIV types don't even hear us out.
But talk to MOST people 1 on 1, and they agree with MOST of things I/we believe if you spell it out for them in a non-condescending way.
But, whatever. The establishment owns the money, the press, and the nomination process.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (AkOaV)
108
I believe the ancient Greek Republican cry of defiance "Anal Lube!" loosely translates into "Come and dork them!"
It translates loosely after awhile.
It translates loosely after awhile.
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (5KY1+)
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104 I've voted in every election since 1980. Every election, spring locals, nationals, primaries. Not in 2016. I've been let down too many times. Let down? Hell, beat over the head with a shit bucket is more like it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)
I am waiting to see who the nominee is. If it's a GOP-e stooge, then I will stay home.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)
I am waiting to see who the nominee is. If it's a GOP-e stooge, then I will stay home.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:01 PM (St6BJ)
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Yeah, that's brilliant. Leave the Republican party.
Start a party with Mark Levin and just yell at people all day. And by
all means don't let people like Rubio, Portman, Johnson or Cotton in
your new party. Oh no, not those RINOs. Good luck -- all 50 or so of
you in the new pure party. Oh, and don't forget to throw overboard all
those RINOs who are in State governments. All those Republicans who
have the strongest majority in the States since the 1920s. They are no
good either.
Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (GtxgK)
Yeah. All you people should listen to Alix. Eckspecially the part about strong majorities in state government. Those can't possibly be squandered.
Now if you all will excuse me, Ima gonna go text some 19 chick about how I want to give her some fat old man d*ck.
Start a party with Mark Levin and just yell at people all day. And by
all means don't let people like Rubio, Portman, Johnson or Cotton in
your new party. Oh no, not those RINOs. Good luck -- all 50 or so of
you in the new pure party. Oh, and don't forget to throw overboard all
those RINOs who are in State governments. All those Republicans who
have the strongest majority in the States since the 1920s. They are no
good either.
Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (GtxgK)
Yeah. All you people should listen to Alix. Eckspecially the part about strong majorities in state government. Those can't possibly be squandered.
Now if you all will excuse me, Ima gonna go text some 19 chick about how I want to give her some fat old man d*ck.
Posted by: Ex-Missouri House Speaker John Diehl at May 22, 2015 01:01 PM (TOk1P)
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I've voted in every election since 1980. Every election, spring locals, nationals, primaries. Not in 2016. I've been let down too many times. Let down? Hell, beat over the head with a shit bucket is more like it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)
Cast a blank ballot.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (n6Nt0)
Cast a blank ballot.
Posted by: The Voting Hat at May 22, 2015 01:01 PM (7YlUk)
112
>>>InTouch Weekly FOIA'ed a police report from 2006 in which the oldest
Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least
some of whom were his sisters.<<<
Heh.
Duggar was questioned about uh... groping(?) 5 young girls, at least
some of whom were his sisters.<<<
Heh.
Posted by: Irony at May 22, 2015 01:01 PM (dkfG0)
113
They must have a dead girl on McConnell because even a live boy wouldn't be enough to end him these days.
Posted by: Sherlockzz at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (lZS3M)
114
I've voted in every election since 1980. Every election, spring locals,
nationals, primaries. Not in 2016. I've been let down too many times.
***
Vote even if you are writing in names. Too much blood was spilled to give us the right to vote even if we have a system that mostly makes it pointless use that system until they take it away.
nationals, primaries. Not in 2016. I've been let down too many times.
***
Vote even if you are writing in names. Too much blood was spilled to give us the right to vote even if we have a system that mostly makes it pointless use that system until they take it away.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (78TbK)
115
You keep giving us Leftism. Fcuk you. Seriously, I'm tired of you self-righteous imbeciles. Fcuk off.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (xSCb6)
Purity? I have my ideas. Best to keep them to myself. BTW you are spot on
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (xSCb6)
Purity? I have my ideas. Best to keep them to myself. BTW you are spot on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (n6Nt0)
116
That Duggar did more than Sugar Bear! I still holler for a dollar!
Posted by: Honey Boo Boo at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (NPgvx)
117
I feel the same way, but I just don't see a good alternative.
In the UK, the Left in Scotland basically did the middle finger thing and it gave the Tories a landslide victory. If anything, it will just be a major setback for the Left over there.
I think the Right needs to have a way to cut off our leader's heads, sort of a surgical strike like what went down with Eric Cantor. And if we can't beat them in a primary, have a 3rd Party candidate waiting.
In the UK, the Left in Scotland basically did the middle finger thing and it gave the Tories a landslide victory. If anything, it will just be a major setback for the Left over there.
I think the Right needs to have a way to cut off our leader's heads, sort of a surgical strike like what went down with Eric Cantor. And if we can't beat them in a primary, have a 3rd Party candidate waiting.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (58htc)
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Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 12:50 PM (GtxgK)
Your rant demonstrates in no uncertain terms how utterly clueless you are about the state of affairs in American party politics.
Just stop.
Your rant demonstrates in no uncertain terms how utterly clueless you are about the state of affairs in American party politics.
Just stop.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (LA7Cm)
120
I got a new hash for my internet blog comments! This is very exciting!
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at May 22, 2015 01:03 PM (Ui7Rt)
121
So, the Duggar boy and and Lena Dunham sure have a lot in common it sounds like.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM
But he never returns my calls and texts....
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 12:54 PM
But he never returns my calls and texts....
Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 22, 2015 01:03 PM (h4vJk)
122
They must have a dead girl on McConnell because even a live boy wouldn't be enough to end him these days.
Posted by: Sherlockzz at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (lZS3M)
A live boy would raise his standing in some circles...
Posted by: Sherlockzz at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (lZS3M)
A live boy would raise his standing in some circles...
Posted by: The Necro-Hat at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (7YlUk)
123
" because even a live boy wouldn't be enough to end him these days."
Or, as the left thinks of it, a resume enhancement.
Or, as the left thinks of it, a resume enhancement.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (St6BJ)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 12:59 PM (St6BJ)
Oh, trust me, I feel ya.
I just wish there was some kind of easy solution like that. I thought there was back in 2010. Turns out that 2010 didn't change anything.
Oh well.
Oh, trust me, I feel ya.
I just wish there was some kind of easy solution like that. I thought there was back in 2010. Turns out that 2010 didn't change anything.
Oh well.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (AkOaV)
126
I'm done with 'em, that's for sure. Going sub rosa on politics as the libs in power around be are unthinking suckers and can be taken pretty easy. Ciao GOP.
Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (g1MTt)
127
Four Texas congressmen have given their support to Ted already. I will work for his election. If he doesn't get the nomination then Carly is my FU vote.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM (/4JFs)
128
Just listening to Rush. This afternoon's NYT doc/email dump sounds interesting.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:05 PM (LA7Cm)
129
I think the Right needs to have a way to cut off our leader's heads, sort of a surgical strike like what went down with Eric Cantor. And if we can't beat them in a primary, have a 3rd Party candidate waiting.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (58htc)
A 3rd party sounds good, but it will be futile.
Cantor went down and what did they learn? How to be dirtier in the primaries and better liars.
They learned nothing of value in Cantor's defeat.
They all, and i mean all can suck it and go home permanently
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (58htc)
A 3rd party sounds good, but it will be futile.
Cantor went down and what did they learn? How to be dirtier in the primaries and better liars.
They learned nothing of value in Cantor's defeat.
They all, and i mean all can suck it and go home permanently
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:05 PM (n6Nt0)
130
A live boy would raise his standing in some circles...
Posted by: The Necro-Hat at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM
Certainly in DuPont Circle...
Posted by: The Necro-Hat at May 22, 2015 01:04 PM
Certainly in DuPont Circle...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 22, 2015 01:05 PM (h4vJk)
131
54
But the honor of the senate has been restored! Look at all the bills
we're passing, and bipartisanship between Republican leadership and the
president. Once we have all 3 branches of government, then we can stop
all of this failure theater nonsense and move on to completely ignoring
you.
Posted by: Sen. Mitch McConnell
Dear Mitch,
You misunderstood your instructions. We want a cleansing of the Augean Stables, not a garden party. I can see where you get confused, but still, do try to keep up.
But the honor of the senate has been restored! Look at all the bills
we're passing, and bipartisanship between Republican leadership and the
president. Once we have all 3 branches of government, then we can stop
all of this failure theater nonsense and move on to completely ignoring
you.
Posted by: Sen. Mitch McConnell
Dear Mitch,
You misunderstood your instructions. We want a cleansing of the Augean Stables, not a garden party. I can see where you get confused, but still, do try to keep up.
Posted by: pep at May 22, 2015 01:05 PM (GMG6W)
132
Mumia abu Jamal = convicted of murder, and he's a celebrity
This Duggar person = questioned but never charged, and he's eeeeeeevvvviiill
This Duggar person = questioned but never charged, and he's eeeeeeevvvviiill
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 22, 2015 01:06 PM (Spluw)
133
This morning Juan McCain called Josh Earnest an idiot while on with Bill Hemmer. Then immediately apologized.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:06 PM (FsuaD)
134
For all they have done in ignoring the conservative principles they avowed before elections, I'm saving them for the sharpest knife.
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at May 22, 2015 01:06 PM (X8p7j)
135
But he never returns my calls and texts....
Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 22, 2015 01:03 PM (h4vJk
Thats because you are a carpet muncher
But he never returns my calls and texts....
Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 22, 2015 01:03 PM (h4vJk
Thats because you are a carpet muncher
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:06 PM (n6Nt0)
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Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (58htc)
but Cantor didn't change anything.
And the spin from the GOPe was, "well, Eric got kicked out because he just didn't spend enough time in his district (unlike the rest of us, who are really *of* the people)."
but Cantor didn't change anything.
And the spin from the GOPe was, "well, Eric got kicked out because he just didn't spend enough time in his district (unlike the rest of us, who are really *of* the people)."
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:06 PM (AkOaV)
137
Bullish!!!!!!!!!!
@Reuters 5m
BREAKING: Yellen says labor market still not fully healed, as seen in low wage growth
@Reuters 5m
BREAKING: Yellen says labor market still not fully healed, as seen in low wage growth
Posted by: Mr. Hawaiian Dress at May 22, 2015 01:07 PM (uctT+)
Posted by: Modern Whigs at May 22, 2015 01:07 PM (r5bY8)
Posted by: wooga at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (rczVS)
140
Ace sez:
"At some point, a great mass of people will come to the conclusion I (and many before me did)..."
GRAMMAR EMERGENCY!
For this to make syntactical sense, the un-parentheses need to be moved back one word, so that it says
"At some point, a great mass of people will come to the conclusion I (and many before me) did..."
Otherwise, the main sentence has no verb. The "did" needs to be outside any parenthetical aside.
If this is not rectified soon, the universe will implode!
"At some point, a great mass of people will come to the conclusion I (and many before me did)..."
GRAMMAR EMERGENCY!
For this to make syntactical sense, the un-parentheses need to be moved back one word, so that it says
"At some point, a great mass of people will come to the conclusion I (and many before me) did..."
Otherwise, the main sentence has no verb. The "did" needs to be outside any parenthetical aside.
If this is not rectified soon, the universe will implode!
Posted by: zombie at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (jBuUi)
141
I only vote locally now, but I bitch nationally!
but I am tired of even bitching nationally. I see no out.
In other news, it is good to see the DC mansion murderer/arsonist has been caught.
I only vote locally now, but I bitch nationally!
but I am tired of even bitching nationally. I see no out.
In other news, it is good to see the DC mansion murderer/arsonist has been caught.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (ODxAs)
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But talk to MOST people 1 on 1, and they agree with MOST of things I/we believe if you spell it out for them in a non-condescending way. But, whatever. The establishment owns the money, the press, and the nomination process.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (AkOaV)
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Just in terms of MS, that it was a runoff, and the Cochran calculation was they could obnoxiously talk about their "access" to deliver more federal money to the state, and it was not repudiated in the least by the voters. We get these politicians because we deserve these politicians.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:00 PM (AkOaV)
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Just in terms of MS, that it was a runoff, and the Cochran calculation was they could obnoxiously talk about their "access" to deliver more federal money to the state, and it was not repudiated in the least by the voters. We get these politicians because we deserve these politicians.
Posted by: Dave S. at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (leNBy)
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Alinsky's rule for radicals #13:
Grab them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow. (However, we're a little short on balls at the moment.?
Grab them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow. (However, we're a little short on balls at the moment.?
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (+jijM)
144
20
...It's not Boehner and McConnell.
We could put new people in leadership, it would be the same story.
It's just how DC operates and has operated for years. Yes, it's becoming more obvious now, but I mean...
Posted by: mynewhandle
I'm not so sure, whatever you thought about Newt Gingrich, at least he looked to his position as leader of a real opposition party and actively tried to move forward with an agenda.
Boehner and McConnell are just basically elected lobbyists, they don't give a damn about anything but feathering their own bed.
I do think different leaders would make a difference and also a public hanging would make the new guys a little nervous.
...It's not Boehner and McConnell.
We could put new people in leadership, it would be the same story.
It's just how DC operates and has operated for years. Yes, it's becoming more obvious now, but I mean...
Posted by: mynewhandle
I'm not so sure, whatever you thought about Newt Gingrich, at least he looked to his position as leader of a real opposition party and actively tried to move forward with an agenda.
Boehner and McConnell are just basically elected lobbyists, they don't give a damn about anything but feathering their own bed.
I do think different leaders would make a difference and also a public hanging would make the new guys a little nervous.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:09 PM (58htc)
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But he never returns my calls and texts....
Posted by: Lena Dunham
_______________________
That's a form of rape too!
Posted by: Lena Dunham
_______________________
That's a form of rape too!
Posted by: Every Feminist at May 22, 2015 01:09 PM (UlJ3l)
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Shit on the base and lose the senate. It is done. The donks will take the senate in 16 and all those sweet chairmanships are gone.
I think the GOPe keeps the HOR due to gerrymandering but it will be real close.
I think the GOPe keeps the HOR due to gerrymandering but it will be real close.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 22, 2015 01:09 PM (TV9BR)
147
The Weaponized Gluten Lobby and Montsanto are using Rush to send us a message.
Posted by: Garrett at May 22, 2015 01:10 PM (CnmVh)
148
The republicans are putting on a kabuki for us. They are all in it together. With the democrats. We, of course, are on our own.
Posted by: Eromero at May 22, 2015 01:11 PM (go5uR)
149
Miss me yet?
Posted by: Harry Reid, Accused Pederast at May 22, 2015 01:11 PM (TV9BR)
150
Look on the bright side, no Congressional or Senate presidential candidate stands a chance. Good news for Walker and Perry.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 22, 2015 01:12 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 01:12 PM (gW5Vg)
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" The republicans are putting on a kabuki for us. They are all in it together."
Yep. All a show, a put-on, to fool the rubes back home and keep the sweet, sweet D.C. cash a flowin'.
Yep. All a show, a put-on, to fool the rubes back home and keep the sweet, sweet D.C. cash a flowin'.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:12 PM (LA7Cm)
153
143 Alinsky's rule for radicals #13:
Grab them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow. (However, we're a little short on balls at the moment.?
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (+jijM
Can we be intrusive and grab them by the ovaries?
Grab them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow. (However, we're a little short on balls at the moment.?
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (+jijM
Can we be intrusive and grab them by the ovaries?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:14 PM (n6Nt0)
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Your two party choices at the ballot box:
Statist corporate-dominated big government loving media-spotlight whoring powers-that-be that know better than you
or
the exact same thing, only a lot more serious about it
Statist corporate-dominated big government loving media-spotlight whoring powers-that-be that know better than you
or
the exact same thing, only a lot more serious about it
Posted by: brak at May 22, 2015 01:14 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:14 PM (n6Nt0)
156
Jake, give it up, it's China town.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (M5Pt7)
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Posted by: zombie at May 22, 2015 01:08 PM (jBuUi)
This is what happens when you're exposed to the streets of Berkeley for extended periods of time.
I sense an impending crack up.
Please, follow Mr. Cochran's advice. Stat!
This is what happens when you're exposed to the streets of Berkeley for extended periods of time.
I sense an impending crack up.
Please, follow Mr. Cochran's advice. Stat!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (xSCb6)
158
114
Vote even if you are writing in names. Too much blood was spilled to give us the right to vote even if we have a system that mostly makes it pointless use that system until they take it away.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (78TbK)
I agree. Vote for another party or write in someone. There are always options. But not voting out of disgust is indistinguishable from not voting out of apathy.
Vote even if you are writing in names. Too much blood was spilled to give us the right to vote even if we have a system that mostly makes it pointless use that system until they take it away.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2015 01:02 PM (78TbK)
I agree. Vote for another party or write in someone. There are always options. But not voting out of disgust is indistinguishable from not voting out of apathy.
Posted by: rickl at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (zoehZ)
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"Shit on the base and lose the senate. "
And the supreme court is gone for at least another 2 generations.
And the supreme court is gone for at least another 2 generations.
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (+jijM)
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Can we be intrusive and grab them by the ovaries?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:14 PM (n6Nt0)
Remember, every day that ends with a "y" is a day for rape...
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 22, 2015 01:14 PM (n6Nt0)
Remember, every day that ends with a "y" is a day for rape...
Posted by: Rapey McRaping Raperman at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (7YlUk)
161
Extremely revelatory story making the rounds today:
Canadian lesbians order a ring for their wedding from a jeweler, he makes it for them, does a great job at a good price, they love the ring, they recommend him to their lesbian friends, one goes into the shop and as she's ordering notices a Christian sign on the wall.
She freaks, tells the original lesbian couple that a Christian made their ring, they freak, the SJW mob descends on the jeweler shop demanding that he NOT serve gay people, and that he should have warned the lesbians that he was Christian before doing such a polite and skilled job on their ring, because now the ring is tainted by evil Christianity and their wedding is ruined!
So he politely refunds their entire purchase.
But he's still a villain for having served them in the first place, and a big boycott from LGBT groups looms!!
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/heads-christians-win-tails-they-lose/
This reveals the real agenda.
If a Christian business DOESN'T serve a gay customer, they are evil and must be boycotted and destroyed.
If a Christian business DOES serve a gay customer, they are evil and must be boycotted and destroyed.
Only conclusion: All Christian businesses must be destroyed.
Which is step one to the endgame: All Christians must be destroyed.
Canadian lesbians order a ring for their wedding from a jeweler, he makes it for them, does a great job at a good price, they love the ring, they recommend him to their lesbian friends, one goes into the shop and as she's ordering notices a Christian sign on the wall.
She freaks, tells the original lesbian couple that a Christian made their ring, they freak, the SJW mob descends on the jeweler shop demanding that he NOT serve gay people, and that he should have warned the lesbians that he was Christian before doing such a polite and skilled job on their ring, because now the ring is tainted by evil Christianity and their wedding is ruined!
So he politely refunds their entire purchase.
But he's still a villain for having served them in the first place, and a big boycott from LGBT groups looms!!
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/heads-christians-win-tails-they-lose/
This reveals the real agenda.
If a Christian business DOESN'T serve a gay customer, they are evil and must be boycotted and destroyed.
If a Christian business DOES serve a gay customer, they are evil and must be boycotted and destroyed.
Only conclusion: All Christian businesses must be destroyed.
Which is step one to the endgame: All Christians must be destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (ZKzrr)
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I'm going to be a BSA scout leader when I retire. Lots of pool parties!!
Posted by: Harry Reid, Accused Pederast at May 22, 2015 01:16 PM (TV9BR)
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Cantor went down and what did they learn? How to be dirtier in the primaries and better liars.
They learned nothing of value in Cantor's defeat.
They all, and i mean all can suck it and go home permanently
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
You're never going to have a single shot event like that where it all changes. It has to be a lesson learned over and over again.
I do think Cantor scared the shit out of the Republicans making noises about some sort of Amnesty deal with Obama, but we'll never know.
i still think it was "worth it" and think we should continue to make examples of the most egregious offenders.
But I'm not in the camp of "let's hand the country over to the Left to teach the whores in our Party a lesson!" I think if anything, the lesson will be a GOP that moves further Left.
They learned nothing of value in Cantor's defeat.
They all, and i mean all can suck it and go home permanently
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
You're never going to have a single shot event like that where it all changes. It has to be a lesson learned over and over again.
I do think Cantor scared the shit out of the Republicans making noises about some sort of Amnesty deal with Obama, but we'll never know.
i still think it was "worth it" and think we should continue to make examples of the most egregious offenders.
But I'm not in the camp of "let's hand the country over to the Left to teach the whores in our Party a lesson!" I think if anything, the lesson will be a GOP that moves further Left.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:16 PM (58htc)
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One of these days the regular commenters on this board who are always saying "fuck the GOP" will wake up and realize that they are like, less than 1% of the population, even less than the gays they are always going on about.
Obama didn't stop being president just because the GOP won both houses of Congress. The media didn't stop being what it is. These are still obstacles to overcome until 20 January 2017 at noon eastern time. Thinking Obama and the Dems would just give up because they lost an election was the thinking of a child.
If you think restoring regular order was no big deal, fine. If you think the open splits in the Dem party over trade are no big deal, fine. If you think having complete control over the oversight process is no big deal, fine. Let Reid and the Dems have the Senate back, then.
The GOP leadership's job is getting Republicans elected to office, not satisfying every fringe desire of fringe people. Frankly, they've been brilliant at doing the one and not the other. Maybe it might clue some of you in to realize the connection between how not doing the one thing results in the other thing.
Obama didn't stop being president just because the GOP won both houses of Congress. The media didn't stop being what it is. These are still obstacles to overcome until 20 January 2017 at noon eastern time. Thinking Obama and the Dems would just give up because they lost an election was the thinking of a child.
If you think restoring regular order was no big deal, fine. If you think the open splits in the Dem party over trade are no big deal, fine. If you think having complete control over the oversight process is no big deal, fine. Let Reid and the Dems have the Senate back, then.
The GOP leadership's job is getting Republicans elected to office, not satisfying every fringe desire of fringe people. Frankly, they've been brilliant at doing the one and not the other. Maybe it might clue some of you in to realize the connection between how not doing the one thing results in the other thing.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (ljZD2)
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@144 - the problem is that the Ghost of Newt hangs over the GOP majority today.
No GOP leader wants to relive the days when the Congress went after a very popular President on what were - if not in legal minutiae, at least in public perception - very personal peccadilloes.
The overreach of the Gingrich era with impeachment and the related nonsense has utterly neutered Congressional oversight of the Presidency right to this day.
No GOP leader wants to relive the days when the Congress went after a very popular President on what were - if not in legal minutiae, at least in public perception - very personal peccadilloes.
The overreach of the Gingrich era with impeachment and the related nonsense has utterly neutered Congressional oversight of the Presidency right to this day.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (o+SC1)
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Good post ace. Why don't you take the rest of the day off?
Cause let's face it. It's Memorial Day weekend and some stupid shit is likely hit the fan or tweet a dick pic and you'll be busy hammering it and won't get much of a break.
Cause let's face it. It's Memorial Day weekend and some stupid shit is likely hit the fan or tweet a dick pic and you'll be busy hammering it and won't get much of a break.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (z/Ubi)
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***"the exact same thing, only a lot more serious about it"***
That's what gets me about the GOP strategy and the mindset which produces it.
Knowing what we know about LIVs, why on Earth would any of them vote for the party that simply offers less free shit?
That's what gets me about the GOP strategy and the mindset which produces it.
Knowing what we know about LIVs, why on Earth would any of them vote for the party that simply offers less free shit?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (xSCb6)
169
She freaks, tells the original lesbian couple that a Christian made
their ring, they freak, the SJW mob descends on the jeweler shop
demanding that he NOT serve gay people, and that he should have warned
the lesbians that he was Christian before doing such a polite and
skilled job on their ring, because now the ring is tainted by evil
Christianity and their wedding is ruined!
s/lesbian/Nazi
s/Christian/Jew
Hrm.
their ring, they freak, the SJW mob descends on the jeweler shop
demanding that he NOT serve gay people, and that he should have warned
the lesbians that he was Christian before doing such a polite and
skilled job on their ring, because now the ring is tainted by evil
Christianity and their wedding is ruined!
s/lesbian/Nazi
s/Christian/Jew
Hrm.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 22, 2015 01:18 PM (ZKzrr)
170
But I'm not in the camp of "let's hand the country over to the Left to teach the whores in our Party a lesson!" I think if anything, the lesson will be a GOP that moves further Left.
I'm pretty sure that's already happened.
I'm pretty sure that's already happened.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 01:18 PM (0HooB)
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Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:16 PM (58htc)
...Then the obvious follow up question is that if it scared the shit out of them regarding amnesty, why did they then go ahead and immediately break their campaign promises to end Obamas executive amnesty by setting up a "failure theater" in which Obamas executive amnesty was funded and approved of by Congress?
I think they really believe Cantor lost because he didn't "spend enough time in his district." I think that's really all there is to it. No matter what message we try to send, they spin it in a self serving way.
...Then the obvious follow up question is that if it scared the shit out of them regarding amnesty, why did they then go ahead and immediately break their campaign promises to end Obamas executive amnesty by setting up a "failure theater" in which Obamas executive amnesty was funded and approved of by Congress?
I think they really believe Cantor lost because he didn't "spend enough time in his district." I think that's really all there is to it. No matter what message we try to send, they spin it in a self serving way.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:18 PM (AkOaV)
172
"All we need is a candidate who will have the balls to crush our enemies..."
No vote unless there's a promise to hear the lamentations of the women.
No vote unless there's a promise to hear the lamentations of the women.
Posted by: Conan at May 22, 2015 01:18 PM (gLh1U)
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Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (ljZD2)
Which big government loving establishment shill are you on the payroll for troll?
Which big government loving establishment shill are you on the payroll for troll?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 22, 2015 01:19 PM (z/Ubi)
174
Ah yes, less spending and debt and following the Constitution is now "fringe". Of course.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 01:20 PM (9K3Nr)
175
Wait...we have a troll? So Media Matters heard Rush give a shout-out to Ace yesterday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:20 PM (FsuaD)
176
Posted by: zombie at May 22, 2015 01:15 PM (jBuUi)
It never was about "equality".
It is about power. It is about placing all the sins of humanity in the hands of the designated villain.
The Jacobins did it with the nobles and the church.
The NAZIs did it with the Jews.
The Soviets did it with the Kulaks.
The SNP does it with the English.
And on and on it goes...
It never was about "equality".
It is about power. It is about placing all the sins of humanity in the hands of the designated villain.
The Jacobins did it with the nobles and the church.
The NAZIs did it with the Jews.
The Soviets did it with the Kulaks.
The SNP does it with the English.
And on and on it goes...
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 22, 2015 01:21 PM (7YlUk)
177
No, trumpet, GOP leadership's job in Congress is to pass (or repeal) legislation that the people who votedfor them want. It is NOT their job to just elect more GOPers. That's the RNC's job.
We all have every right to declare Boehner, McConnel et sl failures and call for their ouster
We all have every right to declare Boehner, McConnel et sl failures and call for their ouster
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at May 22, 2015 01:21 PM (itP1/)
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" Thinking Obama and the Dems would just give up because they lost an election was the thinking of a child. "
I don't think anyone expected them to give up but they were expecting a new GOP Congress to show a little substantive opposition. Slow down Barry's agenda.
Ya know, look/act a little like opposition.
I don't think anyone expected them to give up but they were expecting a new GOP Congress to show a little substantive opposition. Slow down Barry's agenda.
Ya know, look/act a little like opposition.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:21 PM (LA7Cm)
179
149 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Harry Reid, Accused Pederast at May 22, 2015 01:11 PM (TV9BR)
That turtle suit your wearing is not convincing. Especially the loose folds around the jowls.
Posted by: Harry Reid, Accused Pederast at May 22, 2015 01:11 PM (TV9BR)
That turtle suit your wearing is not convincing. Especially the loose folds around the jowls.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:22 PM (St6BJ)
180
Trumpetdaddy and Alix: Who the fuck are these people? Never heard of 'em.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 22, 2015 01:22 PM (fMQoG)
181
Boehner makes me wonder how many generations of his family could possibly be paid off by corporations for him to sell the country out and constantly increase the debt limit.
Boehner is a living piece of human sh!t willing to sell out future generations for a nice office and great dinners.
McConnell is also a living piece of human sh!t who is comfortable with it.
Bastards.
Boehner is a living piece of human sh!t willing to sell out future generations for a nice office and great dinners.
McConnell is also a living piece of human sh!t who is comfortable with it.
Bastards.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 22, 2015 01:22 PM (AC0lD)
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175 Wait...we have a troll? So Media Matters heard Rush give a shout-out to Ace yesterday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:20 PM (FsuaD)
Hector and Moo Moo are gonna be pissed!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:20 PM (FsuaD)
Hector and Moo Moo are gonna be pissed!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (St6BJ)
183
***"But I'm not in the camp of "let's hand the country
over to the Left to teach the whores in our Party a lesson!" I think if
anything, the lesson will be a GOP that moves further Left.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:16 PM (58htc)"***
This is illogical. How does opposing the GOP's leftward slide move the GOP further left. Show your math.
And you're confused about the "camp" to which you referred. What we're saying is that the GOP is already handing the country over to the left, and this blog and comments section has provided you ample evidence to support this position.
In short - if you continue to vote GOP, you're the one handing the country over to the Left.
over to the Left to teach the whores in our Party a lesson!" I think if
anything, the lesson will be a GOP that moves further Left.
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:16 PM (58htc)"***
This is illogical. How does opposing the GOP's leftward slide move the GOP further left. Show your math.
And you're confused about the "camp" to which you referred. What we're saying is that the GOP is already handing the country over to the left, and this blog and comments section has provided you ample evidence to support this position.
In short - if you continue to vote GOP, you're the one handing the country over to the Left.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (xSCb6)
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Worst part? Look at the Obamtrade Bill.
The same people in the Republican Party who crowed for years that Democrats passed the Obamcare bill without letting anyone read it are now saying the same thing about the trade bill.
*BLINK*
So what's in it Republicans don't want us to see?
These are the same Republicans who just got a majority based on their phony repeal rhetoric which they will now give lip service, for the rubes, ya know.
Were we just cast into another universe and nobody told me?
The same people in the Republican Party who crowed for years that Democrats passed the Obamcare bill without letting anyone read it are now saying the same thing about the trade bill.
*BLINK*
So what's in it Republicans don't want us to see?
These are the same Republicans who just got a majority based on their phony repeal rhetoric which they will now give lip service, for the rubes, ya know.
Were we just cast into another universe and nobody told me?
Posted by: Marcus T at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (GGCsk)
185
>>>Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (ljZD2)
Which big government loving establishment shill are you on the payroll for troll?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 22, 2015 01:19 PM (z/Ubi)<<<
**pulls of a restrained trumpetdaddy's mask**
Karl Rove!
Which big government loving establishment shill are you on the payroll for troll?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 22, 2015 01:19 PM (z/Ubi)<<<
**pulls of a restrained trumpetdaddy's mask**
Karl Rove!
Posted by: The Scooby Gang at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (dkfG0)
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Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (ljZD2)
"fringe" is kind of like "extremist" right?
...Asking for a friend.
"fringe" is kind of like "extremist" right?
...Asking for a friend.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (AkOaV)
187
I'm surprised we're not swimming in trolls.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:24 PM (FsuaD)
188
Posted by: The Scooby Gang at May 22, 2015 01:23 PM (dkfG0)
And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for these pesky kids!!
And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for these pesky kids!!
Posted by: Karl Rove at May 22, 2015 01:24 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2015 01:24 PM (St6BJ)
190
@176 - and Cameron gave DECC (Environment and Climate Change, run by one of the worst LibDem cranks under the last 'coalition') to a windfarm-nut in the SNP.
You have one bunch of Conservatives gnashing their teeth, another saying how wonderful it is that the SNP is now going to show how badly they can screw up.
You have one bunch of Conservatives gnashing their teeth, another saying how wonderful it is that the SNP is now going to show how badly they can screw up.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (o+SC1)
191
Where is written that the USA will endure forever?
The end is nigh...and we're here to witness it.
Where is written that the USA will endure forever?
The end is nigh...and we're here to witness it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (Z1in4)
192
@187 - I didn't think trolls could swim, it's why they always run the bridge tollbooths.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (o+SC1)
193
No, I think the GOP has seen its last big victory last election. It was so easy to avoid; all the leadership was up for election and could have been wiped out, but they were reelected. The voters are to blame, not the politicians. We did it to ourselves, in other words.
The new GOP has decided that they will run as the "reasonable party" that gets along and is nice and talks pleasantly, they are the ones who'll compromise and bend while the Dems seem so angry and shrill. That's their strategy, as far as I can see. In the end the Democrats get their way every time and there's no point in voting for any Republican, but that's what they think will bring them power.
The new GOP has decided that they will run as the "reasonable party" that gets along and is nice and talks pleasantly, they are the ones who'll compromise and bend while the Dems seem so angry and shrill. That's their strategy, as far as I can see. In the end the Democrats get their way every time and there's no point in voting for any Republican, but that's what they think will bring them power.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
194
"The same people in the Republican Party who crowed for years that Democrats passed the Obamcare bill without letting anyone read it are now saying the same thing about the trade bill."
$$$
$$$
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (LA7Cm)
195
nood lesbians
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:25 PM (AkOaV)
196
People talk about a lost generation for Democrats. I think the Republican Party will prevent that.
At least the Democrats say their going to do that thing in your mouth.
At least the Democrats say their going to do that thing in your mouth.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 22, 2015 01:26 PM (GGCsk)
197
It's amazing how many people have forgotten that Congress is supposed to work for the People. America is not supposed to be a feifdom, yet here we are.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 22, 2015 01:26 PM (9K3Nr)
198
187 I'm surprised we're not swimming in trolls.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:24 PM (FsuaD)
They heard what happened to the other trolls. So they're just lurking out there, scared, waiting to fire off a single comment and then run like little bitches.
BOO!!!!! I see you troll! Lol.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2015 01:24 PM (FsuaD)
They heard what happened to the other trolls. So they're just lurking out there, scared, waiting to fire off a single comment and then run like little bitches.
BOO!!!!! I see you troll! Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 01:26 PM (gW5Vg)
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Ok JJ I see you are here.
The crowd was dangerous. The crowds were very dangerous.
The comment was correct. The comments were very confusing.
Comments with an s is plural. It can not anything else.
Maybe in Hebrew?
The crowd was dangerous. The crowds were very dangerous.
The comment was correct. The comments were very confusing.
Comments with an s is plural. It can not anything else.
Maybe in Hebrew?
Posted by: Grammar Poleese at May 22, 2015 01:27 PM (M5Pt7)
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Hey remember when the establishment shills kept claiming that Boehner was doing good work and was passing good bills and it was just that Harry Reid was sitting on them in the senate. And if we got control of the senate then those bills would come up for a vote and we could force dems to vote on them and make Obama actually veto them? Yeah I'm still waiting for that fantasy to occur to prove that it wasn't just more kabuki.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 22, 2015 01:27 PM (z/Ubi)
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The GOP is run for the benefit of its members, not for the benefit of the voters
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 22, 2015 01:27 PM (9T/th)
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Trumpetdaddy is like the GOP leadership, they shit their pants and declare the stench the smell of victory.
Posted by: maddogg at May 22, 2015 01:28 PM (xWW96)
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Some of you ass hats here ever think your transmitting play calls to the other team?
Posted by: I am Here!!!! at May 22, 2015 01:28 PM (/WmRg)
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Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:17 PM (ljZD2)
Oh, this guy. Always cracks me up.
It doesn't matter if the "Fuck the GOP" crowd is 10% or .01%. What we're trying to drill into your thick skull is that the GOP is fucking you. That's just reality, so there's no need to get butthurt because we're giving you a heavy dose of it.
You think that trying to achieve some semblance of fiscal responsibility is "fringe". That adhering to the Rule of Law is "fringe".
You're part of the problem. In a big way, Chief.
Oh, this guy. Always cracks me up.
It doesn't matter if the "Fuck the GOP" crowd is 10% or .01%. What we're trying to drill into your thick skull is that the GOP is fucking you. That's just reality, so there's no need to get butthurt because we're giving you a heavy dose of it.
You think that trying to achieve some semblance of fiscal responsibility is "fringe". That adhering to the Rule of Law is "fringe".
You're part of the problem. In a big way, Chief.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:29 PM (xSCb6)
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I'm surprised we're not swimming in trolls.
Me too.
They should've been here yesterday within minutes of Rush's mention.
Maybe the sight of the troll hide on the front door scared them away.
And you guys didn't want to do that when I first proposed it...
Me too.
They should've been here yesterday within minutes of Rush's mention.
Maybe the sight of the troll hide on the front door scared them away.
And you guys didn't want to do that when I first proposed it...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 01:29 PM (0HooB)
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Like I said yesterday, Rush attracts a lot of attention from the left sometimes, and at other times they ignore him pretending he doesn't exist and doesn't matter. Right now, they're in "Rush? Rush who?" Charles Gibson mode.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 22, 2015 01:30 PM (39g3+)
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I told you Boehner was flaccid.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 22, 2015 01:30 PM (GGCsk)
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*stares*
You....you need to get laid.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 01:12 PM (gW5Vg)
Don't we all...
You....you need to get laid.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 01:12 PM (gW5Vg)
Don't we all...
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 01:31 PM (2Ojst)
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@144 - the problem is that the Ghost of Newt hangs over the GOP majority today.
No GOP leader wants to relive the days when the Congress went after a
very popular President on what were - if not in legal minutiae, at
least in public perception - very personal peccadilloes.
The overreach of the Gingrich era with impeachment and the related
nonsense has utterly neutered Congressional oversight of the Presidency
right to this day.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor
I don't think that's a real factor in what's going on today in Congress.
The Contract with America was smashing success when it comes to public policy. Clinton basically had to coopt it into his agenda. the confrontational style worked.
I do think Newt though on a personal level was a deeply flawed egomaniac and got into some bullshit drama that was exploited. The impeachment fiasco also hurt. I don't want a bombastic GOP leader, just someone willing to use our majorities to stand up to Obama.
But the Republicans didn't lose control of the House until 2006, well after Newt was no longer in the picture, so even though there was some setbacks and miscalculations, it wasn't like Newt handed over Congress to the Democrats
@144 - the problem is that the Ghost of Newt hangs over the GOP majority today.
No GOP leader wants to relive the days when the Congress went after a
very popular President on what were - if not in legal minutiae, at
least in public perception - very personal peccadilloes.
The overreach of the Gingrich era with impeachment and the related
nonsense has utterly neutered Congressional oversight of the Presidency
right to this day.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor
I don't think that's a real factor in what's going on today in Congress.
The Contract with America was smashing success when it comes to public policy. Clinton basically had to coopt it into his agenda. the confrontational style worked.
I do think Newt though on a personal level was a deeply flawed egomaniac and got into some bullshit drama that was exploited. The impeachment fiasco also hurt. I don't want a bombastic GOP leader, just someone willing to use our majorities to stand up to Obama.
But the Republicans didn't lose control of the House until 2006, well after Newt was no longer in the picture, so even though there was some setbacks and miscalculations, it wasn't like Newt handed over Congress to the Democrats
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:31 PM (58htc)
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Never trust a man whose nickname is "Turtle"
Posted by: Marcus T at May 22, 2015 01:31 PM (GGCsk)
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Don't we all...
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 01:31 PM (2Ojst)
Of course. But, you know, some more than others.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 22, 2015 01:31 PM (2Ojst)
Of course. But, you know, some more than others.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 22, 2015 01:32 PM (gW5Vg)
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The Republican Establishment has lost 5 out of 6 popular votes since 1992.
The Republican Establishment has run a whole ton of failed Senate candidates. Just to name a few ---
- Scott Brown
- Connie Mack
- Heather Wilson
- Carly Fiorina
- Todd Akin
- Pete Hoekstra
- Denny Rehberg
- Rick Berg
- George Allen
- Tommy Thompson
And yet they have the nerve to whine that whackobird tea-party conservatives cost them their majority.
The Republican Establishment has run a whole ton of failed Senate candidates. Just to name a few ---
- Scott Brown
- Connie Mack
- Heather Wilson
- Carly Fiorina
- Todd Akin
- Pete Hoekstra
- Denny Rehberg
- Rick Berg
- George Allen
- Tommy Thompson
And yet they have the nerve to whine that whackobird tea-party conservatives cost them their majority.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 22, 2015 01:32 PM (O7MnT)
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Some people think that the world should just snap to, and do whatever they want just because they want it. And if the world doesn't, it's because the leadership of a political party is "fucking them."
Some of you people are bigger babies than those SJW womens' studies types. Precious snowflakes the lot of you.
"The GOP doesn't do exactly what I want! Waah! Waah! Waah!"
Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
Some of you people are bigger babies than those SJW womens' studies types. Precious snowflakes the lot of you.
"The GOP doesn't do exactly what I want! Waah! Waah! Waah!"
Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
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Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
You can go back to sucking Soros' dick now.
You can go back to sucking Soros' dick now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 22, 2015 01:34 PM (0HooB)
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Alinsky's rule for radicals #13: Grab them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow. (However, we're a little short on balls at the moment.?
Rick's Rules for Radicals: Grab 'em by their shit covered schlong with a straight razor in the other hand.
Rick's Rules for Radicals: Grab 'em by their shit covered schlong with a straight razor in the other hand.
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 22, 2015 01:34 PM (5KY1+)
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Milksops like trumpetdick got voted out of office here. Tom Cotton trumpetdick. The future of the conservative movement.
Posted by: maddogg at May 22, 2015 01:35 PM (xWW96)
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Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
Yeah! You tell them!!
Has it occurred to you that "some people" don't like being lied to by the people who come to us with hands out every 2 years (or 6 years, depending) asking for votes and money and promising us to do "xyz" then doing the exact opposite when they get to DC?
Or are we just supposed to shut up and accept that we're unimportant non people who are just bothering our betters in DC with our whining? Because in that case, why vote? If we truly have no say in the process, why are we wasting our time?
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
Yeah! You tell them!!
Has it occurred to you that "some people" don't like being lied to by the people who come to us with hands out every 2 years (or 6 years, depending) asking for votes and money and promising us to do "xyz" then doing the exact opposite when they get to DC?
Or are we just supposed to shut up and accept that we're unimportant non people who are just bothering our betters in DC with our whining? Because in that case, why vote? If we truly have no say in the process, why are we wasting our time?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 22, 2015 01:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: I am Here!!!! at May 22, 2015 01:36 PM (/WmRg)
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Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
Hey bro, ask reality to give you a little lube next time it's pounding your ass.
Hey bro, ask reality to give you a little lube next time it's pounding your ass.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:37 PM (xSCb6)
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This is illogical. How does opposing the GOP's leftward slide move the GOP further left. Show your math.
And
you're confused about the "camp" to which you referred. What we're
saying is that the GOP is already handing the country over to the left,
and this blog and comments section has provided you ample evidence to
support this position.
In short - if you continue to vote GOP, you're the one handing the country over to the Left.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
Maybe turn down the drama? I'm not handing the country over to the Left, the voters that decided Obama would make a swell President did that.
My "math" is a Republican politician sees voters backing more liberal candidates and tries to chase that voter. Easy logic
I'd love to see your math. "Wow, Democrats are doing really well with voters, it seems to be what they want. But let's shift our policies hard right and see if that gets us elected!" That's your ridiculous fantasy.
There's a reason why so many RINO Republicans tend to be in deep blue states, they are trying to win with an electorate that is not hospitable to traditional conservatives. If you make that true in all 50 states, politicians are going to follow where they think the votes are. So even "red states" are going to start fielding more RINO Republicans if they think the conservative voter is going to sit out elections
And
you're confused about the "camp" to which you referred. What we're
saying is that the GOP is already handing the country over to the left,
and this blog and comments section has provided you ample evidence to
support this position.
In short - if you continue to vote GOP, you're the one handing the country over to the Left.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
Maybe turn down the drama? I'm not handing the country over to the Left, the voters that decided Obama would make a swell President did that.
My "math" is a Republican politician sees voters backing more liberal candidates and tries to chase that voter. Easy logic
I'd love to see your math. "Wow, Democrats are doing really well with voters, it seems to be what they want. But let's shift our policies hard right and see if that gets us elected!" That's your ridiculous fantasy.
There's a reason why so many RINO Republicans tend to be in deep blue states, they are trying to win with an electorate that is not hospitable to traditional conservatives. If you make that true in all 50 states, politicians are going to follow where they think the votes are. So even "red states" are going to start fielding more RINO Republicans if they think the conservative voter is going to sit out elections
Posted by: McAdams at May 22, 2015 01:39 PM (58htc)
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I'm already there. Fuck republicans.
Posted by: Dan in Michigan at May 22, 2015 01:40 PM (2yD4G)
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***"Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it."***
You mad because I won't vote for your boyfriend as Prom King?
Get over yourself, sweetie.
You mad because I won't vote for your boyfriend as Prom King?
Get over yourself, sweetie.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:41 PM (xSCb6)
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Surprised that no one is talking about the horrific TPP and the fact that the Republicans area supporting Obama and will be the ones that push it through.
/rumor has it there's gun confiscation in there as well, yippie!
/rumor has it there's gun confiscation in there as well, yippie!
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at May 22, 2015 01:44 PM (uIyMM)
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"did" should be outside the parenthetical.
Posted by: gm at May 22, 2015 01:44 PM (K0tm3)
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OT: Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in Olympia, Washington, on Thursday night to protest a white police officer's shooting of two unarmed black men suspected of shoplifting beer.
http://tinyurl.com/lhwovpo
Good Lord! What part of "beer" don't they understand?
http://tinyurl.com/lhwovpo
Good Lord! What part of "beer" don't they understand?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 01:45 PM (XUKZU)
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The trade bill can be enhanced by printing more money.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 22, 2015 01:45 PM (TV9BR)
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Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
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My platform is first we shoot all the journalists.
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My platform is first we shoot all the journalists.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 01:47 PM (XUKZU)
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***"Maybe turn down the drama? I'm not handing the country over to the Left,
the voters that decided Obama would make a swell President did that."***
You've confused "drama" with actual historical results. The last time the GOP had total crontrol, they increased spending and the size and scope of government. Full stop. I would go on, but that one irrefutable data point makes you look like a fool in referring to Leftist results as "drama".
Empirical evidence is "drama" to you? That's your problem, not mine.
***"My "math" is a Republican politician sees voters backing more liberal candidates and tries to chase that voter. Easy logic"***
Which is what the current GOP is. And it ends up moving us to the left. See the previous paragraph (which is by no means a comprehensive list of the leftward slide of the GOP)
. Your "logic" actually undermines your argument. Offering less of what the other guy does is not a strategically sound, or logical position.
Wow, Democrats are doing really well with voters, it seems to be what
they want. But let's shift our policies hard right and see if that gets
us elected!" That's your ridiculous fantasy.
Strawman, Sport. That's not my fantasy, that's your mischaracterization. My position is that continuing leftward is ultimately detrimental to our society. My argument is directional. Yours is velocity. Your "logic" dictates that there is no directional change even possible. I think that there is.
If I'm wrong. You're fcuked.
If you're right, you're fcuked.
the voters that decided Obama would make a swell President did that."***
You've confused "drama" with actual historical results. The last time the GOP had total crontrol, they increased spending and the size and scope of government. Full stop. I would go on, but that one irrefutable data point makes you look like a fool in referring to Leftist results as "drama".
Empirical evidence is "drama" to you? That's your problem, not mine.
***"My "math" is a Republican politician sees voters backing more liberal candidates and tries to chase that voter. Easy logic"***
Which is what the current GOP is. And it ends up moving us to the left. See the previous paragraph (which is by no means a comprehensive list of the leftward slide of the GOP)
. Your "logic" actually undermines your argument. Offering less of what the other guy does is not a strategically sound, or logical position.
Wow, Democrats are doing really well with voters, it seems to be what
they want. But let's shift our policies hard right and see if that gets
us elected!" That's your ridiculous fantasy.
Strawman, Sport. That's not my fantasy, that's your mischaracterization. My position is that continuing leftward is ultimately detrimental to our society. My argument is directional. Yours is velocity. Your "logic" dictates that there is no directional change even possible. I think that there is.
If I'm wrong. You're fcuked.
If you're right, you're fcuked.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 01:52 PM (xSCb6)
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Ok JJ I see you are here.
The crowd was dangerous. The crowds were very dangerous.
The comment was correct. The comments were very confusing.
Comments with an s is plural. It can not anything else.
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My take on this is that both are correct depending upon if you are emphasizing the individuals in the crowd or the crowd itself. Of course, given that a huge percentage of the population can't scratch their name in the dirt with a stick, that might be a little beyond your average citizen or pre-citizen.
The crowd was dangerous. The crowds were very dangerous.
The comment was correct. The comments were very confusing.
Comments with an s is plural. It can not anything else.
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My take on this is that both are correct depending upon if you are emphasizing the individuals in the crowd or the crowd itself. Of course, given that a huge percentage of the population can't scratch their name in the dirt with a stick, that might be a little beyond your average citizen or pre-citizen.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 01:53 PM (XUKZU)
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I'm a little turtle
I just fail
Offer me a bribe
And I'll offer you my tail
In a confrontation
I just shout
Don't be mean, I'll never use my clout!
I just fail
Offer me a bribe
And I'll offer you my tail
In a confrontation
I just shout
Don't be mean, I'll never use my clout!
Posted by: Senate majority Leader Mitch McConnell at May 22, 2015 01:53 PM (0cMkb)
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"The GOP doesn't do exactly what I want! Waah! Waah! Waah!"
Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
No, the GOP is doing exactly what they said they wouldn't.
Run for office yourselves if you don't fucking like it.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 01:33 PM (ljZD2)
No, the GOP is doing exactly what they said they wouldn't.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at May 22, 2015 02:00 PM (JOG+K)
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There is a fundamental misunderstanding about how the American system works from many of you who are calling me names.
Change is intentionally designed into our system to be incremental. Nothing turns on a dime. Intentionally so. Even Obamacare, as abhorrent as it is, is built upon a foundation that was built up incrementally over the last 75 years.
You complain that the country has moved leftward, and it indisputably has since the 1930s. Because that's what people voted for.
Now that the Dems have over-reached in the last 6-7 years, the backlash has come and people want the brakes put on. That doesn't mean they want full-on pre-New Deal government.
You have to go into an election with the electorate that you have, not that which you wish you had.
Change is intentionally designed into our system to be incremental. Nothing turns on a dime. Intentionally so. Even Obamacare, as abhorrent as it is, is built upon a foundation that was built up incrementally over the last 75 years.
You complain that the country has moved leftward, and it indisputably has since the 1930s. Because that's what people voted for.
Now that the Dems have over-reached in the last 6-7 years, the backlash has come and people want the brakes put on. That doesn't mean they want full-on pre-New Deal government.
You have to go into an election with the electorate that you have, not that which you wish you had.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 02:01 PM (ljZD2)
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This damn huckabee thing is pissing me off. How many more times is he going to do something stupid to get the dim limelight away from the clintons?
"Oh, the emails are getting dumped on a friday? Well let's just call our lackey Mike and have him say something retarded just in case. Also, someone find me a fresh hooker." - Bill Clinton
"Oh, the emails are getting dumped on a friday? Well let's just call our lackey Mike and have him say something retarded just in case. Also, someone find me a fresh hooker." - Bill Clinton
Posted by: SteveF at May 22, 2015 02:01 PM (QGwBB)
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My take on this is that both are correct depending upon if you are
emphasizing the individuals in the crowd or the crowd itself. Of
course, given that a huge percentage of the population can't scratch
their name in the dirt with a stick, that might be a little beyond your
average citizen or pre-citizen.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 01:53 PM (XUKZU)
In the usage last night, about the word comment and Rush, I think it was questionable, but on sleeping on it I changed my mind.
Comments with an "s" can NOT be singular If it could be why would you use and "s".
A public service announcement. My mom was an English teacher.
My take on this is that both are correct depending upon if you are
emphasizing the individuals in the crowd or the crowd itself. Of
course, given that a huge percentage of the population can't scratch
their name in the dirt with a stick, that might be a little beyond your
average citizen or pre-citizen.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 22, 2015 01:53 PM (XUKZU)
In the usage last night, about the word comment and Rush, I think it was questionable, but on sleeping on it I changed my mind.
Comments with an "s" can NOT be singular If it could be why would you use and "s".
A public service announcement. My mom was an English teacher.
Posted by: Grammar Poleese at May 22, 2015 02:04 PM (M5Pt7)
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Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 02:01 PM (ljZD2)
No shit Captain obvious. The problem is that The GOP is not showing any indication of applying the brakes. That's the point you're conveniently failing to address while you arrogantly lecture everyone here on something they already know.
No one's advocating for rolling back the New Deal tomorrow. Now grow up and try addressing the actual argument instead of railing against the strawmen you're creating.
No shit Captain obvious. The problem is that The GOP is not showing any indication of applying the brakes. That's the point you're conveniently failing to address while you arrogantly lecture everyone here on something they already know.
No one's advocating for rolling back the New Deal tomorrow. Now grow up and try addressing the actual argument instead of railing against the strawmen you're creating.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 02:10 PM (xSCb6)
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Moreover, what the GOP is doing is working. Apparently, many of you missed Sean Trende's analysis from last week about the strength of the Republican party, and Kraushaar's piece in National Journal about how the Dems are running re-tread losers in key Senate races next year because they have no one else to run.
Why in the world would a party at it's strongest level in 80 years, running it's most diverse and accomplished slate of presidential candidates ever, against an opposition party that is rolling out failures and losers because they've got nobody else, throw all of that away to appease 1% of the fringe electorate who is mad because it wasn't all done yesterday?
Some of you need to get a clue. Banging your spoons on your high chairs isn't a compelling strategy to get the adults to listen to you.
Why in the world would a party at it's strongest level in 80 years, running it's most diverse and accomplished slate of presidential candidates ever, against an opposition party that is rolling out failures and losers because they've got nobody else, throw all of that away to appease 1% of the fringe electorate who is mad because it wasn't all done yesterday?
Some of you need to get a clue. Banging your spoons on your high chairs isn't a compelling strategy to get the adults to listen to you.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at May 22, 2015 02:17 PM (ljZD2)
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Trumpetboy, I don't suppose you're smart enough to differentiate between electoral strategies and policy making?
Fcuking troll.
Fcuking troll.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 22, 2015 02:25 PM (xSCb6)
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Geez some people can't take any criticism. I am no troll Sherlocks. And I have been on Ace for years and I have been a republican before most if you were born. Just sit in my house and see how many telemarketing calls I get from the RNC and other committees. I just don't see how you're leaving is going to help anything. You just make a minority's party and don't change anything. And no one addressed how powerful the Republicans are on the state level. Trolls wouldn't mention that. But feel free to hurl expletives my way if it makes you feel better. Just as saying you're leaving the party makes you feel better but does nothing.
Posted by: Alix at May 22, 2015 02:25 PM (a7/vt)
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The GOP is dead....they just don't know it yet. Their hatred for their base is so obvious, and reciprocated in spades.
Conservatives will deny them the Presidency in 2016, and rightfully so....
Conservatives will deny them the Presidency in 2016, and rightfully so....
Posted by: pam at May 22, 2015 02:31 PM (EAZ7y)
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I'm hardly enthusiastic about the Senate Republican leadership, but what is the solution to accomplish things we like? To elect fewer Republicans to the Senate?
Posted by: Joshua at May 22, 2015 02:43 PM (oCZ4e)
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Following up to @240 ... I'm trying to say that we don't have a practical way of winning anything we want if there are more Democrats in the Senate. And if you think that a third party is the way, well, recruit more than zero major conservative officeholders to join you and maybe I'll be interested. In our electoral system, a third party isn't just going to emerge out of the grassroots and go anywhere from there.
Posted by: Joshua at May 22, 2015 02:46 PM (oCZ4e)
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@239: If so-called "conservatives" (I'm using quotation marks around the word intentionally) are planning to deny the Republican Party the presidency in 2016, then that seems to be a pretty poor strategy on their part, because Hillary will continue to take this country on its Leftward path. That includes importing lots of new immigrants to be future Democratic voters.
By the time the Republican Party manages to nominate someone conservative enough for those so-called "conservatives," there won't be enough conservatives OR Republicans in the country to get that candidate elected.
By the time the Republican Party manages to nominate someone conservative enough for those so-called "conservatives," there won't be enough conservatives OR Republicans in the country to get that candidate elected.
Posted by: Joshua at May 22, 2015 02:58 PM (oCZ4e)
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Corker reminds me of Roger Sterling.
Posted by: avi at May 22, 2015 03:11 PM (WYnEW)
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fuck the GOPe
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 22, 2015 03:42 PM (I8nxO)
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@ trumpetdaddy/Joshua/all other shills for the GOPe:
LOL! That's right, you idiots, keep sending up those "electable" Democrat Lite nitwits like McCain, Romney, or Jebbie Bush that NEVER WIN! All I have to do is wink and I win at this rate, what, with the Media/Academia Bullhorn we Democrats have to beat you with........
LOL! That's right, you idiots, keep sending up those "electable" Democrat Lite nitwits like McCain, Romney, or Jebbie Bush that NEVER WIN! All I have to do is wink and I win at this rate, what, with the Media/Academia Bullhorn we Democrats have to beat you with........
Posted by: Shrillary's Vagina at May 22, 2015 04:25 PM (sCHw2)
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@245: I'm not a shill for the GOPe. I'm just saying that for the time being, we have to live with them. If a true conservative gets the Republican nomination in 2016, I will vote for them in the general election.
But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that it's 1980 all over again and the country hasn't changed. There will have been 36 more years of liberalism in education and in the media since then. This country has gone to the left -- if it hadn't, Barack Obama would never have been elected once, much less twice. And the Democrats' media/academia bullhorn would be just as loud against a conservative Republican as it would be against an establishment Republican.
But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that it's 1980 all over again and the country hasn't changed. There will have been 36 more years of liberalism in education and in the media since then. This country has gone to the left -- if it hadn't, Barack Obama would never have been elected once, much less twice. And the Democrats' media/academia bullhorn would be just as loud against a conservative Republican as it would be against an establishment Republican.
Posted by: Joshua at May 22, 2015 04:40 PM (oCZ4e)
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Late to the party and all that, but I want to say I won't be voting for any more Republicans.
Fuck 'em.
Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 22, 2015 09:19 PM (At+7t)
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The thing is, is so many of you "have made our decision" to leave the GOP, but what are you doing, exactly?
Busily signing up recruits for your new party? Volunteers for ballot petitions? Organizational meetings at the local/state/regional/national level?
Nope. None of you losers are doing any more than you did before you "left." You're sitting on your asses in front of a keyboard and whining like spoiled brats on the internet.
Tell me it isn't so. You know I'm right. It's not like mainstream Republicans are begging you to stay, either. All you do is complain and bitch and call our elected leadership names. The day you all really leave, it will seem like a celebration just having all your negativity removed.
Go ahead. "Leave." Make my day.
Busily signing up recruits for your new party? Volunteers for ballot petitions? Organizational meetings at the local/state/regional/national level?
Nope. None of you losers are doing any more than you did before you "left." You're sitting on your asses in front of a keyboard and whining like spoiled brats on the internet.
Tell me it isn't so. You know I'm right. It's not like mainstream Republicans are begging you to stay, either. All you do is complain and bitch and call our elected leadership names. The day you all really leave, it will seem like a celebration just having all your negativity removed.
Go ahead. "Leave." Make my day.
Posted by: Adjoran at May 22, 2015 09:20 PM (QIQ6j)
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Hey, Adjoran!
If you're a stupid enough bastard to find something positive in being 19 damn trillion in debt as a nation with no end to the red ink in sight, more power to you. Just keep living in that dream world where "negativity" is the only thing holding you RINOs back. I'm sure it will keep working just fine for you...until you get that 150 gr. wakeup call incoming at 2750 fps.
Boehner and McConnell won't protect you from that or any of the other real demons out there. Once you begin to realize that, you might begin to find your way back to reality. However, I doubt you'll live that long.
If you're a stupid enough bastard to find something positive in being 19 damn trillion in debt as a nation with no end to the red ink in sight, more power to you. Just keep living in that dream world where "negativity" is the only thing holding you RINOs back. I'm sure it will keep working just fine for you...until you get that 150 gr. wakeup call incoming at 2750 fps.
Boehner and McConnell won't protect you from that or any of the other real demons out there. Once you begin to realize that, you might begin to find your way back to reality. However, I doubt you'll live that long.
Posted by: Mac at May 23, 2015 05:42 AM (XDPWw)
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If you want to dominate Republican politicians, you will have to do the intensive labor and organizing to get your candidates into position. It takes years of work and massive donation efforts. Right now, the old-line party workers are guarding their political turf like rabid dogs. I watched them torpedo a great Tea Party candidate who won his Kentucky primary, and -quite literally- work to elect his Democratic opposition during the last mid-term election. Needless to say, burning the house down to start over is a consideration. What I can't resolve, is how to do so without placing the radical Left into positions that will further dominate the next decades. Burning down the Republican House and replacing it with true conservatives, would have to have a national tsunami to overcome the Left moving into the burned fields. One thought that occurs is whether this problem results more from the short term vs. long term solutions. Short term is dumping Republicans immediately on their rear ends. Long term strategy is recognizing that changing the national mind-set will create that political tsunami. We've discussed the role of education and entertainment in changing American values over the decades. You can't create a tsunami, without first changing the social and culture environment which birthed our leftward lurch.
Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at May 24, 2015 05:10 PM (7JEPK)
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