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Ben Domenech: Lindsay Graham Is An Unhinged Kook Who Shouldn't Be Taken Seriously
Read the excerpt at Hot Air or Ben Domenech's full article.
I think this is an important piece. Domenech is right; Lindsay Graham is afforded by media progressives as being an "adult in the room" on foreign policy, at least as far as those stupid Republicans go. But why should he be? As Domenech lays out, Graham has a very simple, direct, and clear idea of the farthest reach of Executive power: to wit, that there isn't one. McCain and Graham both share this same conception of civilian society as basically the same as the military hierarchy: Our freedoms must always give way to the Organization's goals, and there is a definite chain of command, and he at the top is, for all intents and purposes, King. And, of course, we should bomb everywhere on earth that troubles us, early and often. I think the progressives credit Graham as an "adult in the room" for this very reason that Domenech identifies: Graham's concept of government and society is precisely the same as the progressives' -- we are not important; only acting collectively in the corporate whole can we achieve great things. This is a conception of society that is abhorrent to the Republican tradition, never mind -- again, as Domenech points out -- the American Constitution itself. The US military is a fantastic institution. Some who have served in it, like McCain, and, to a lesser extent, Graham, come away with a more profound respect for it than any civilian could have. However, we are in fact civilians, and if we wanted to serve in an armed forces, we would volunteer. Grahamism is a philosophy which blurs the lines between solider and civilian in very much the same way that Lenin and Stalin did. I respect the diminished liberty that soldiers have volunteered to live under in order to efficiently protect my life. However, my respect stops well short at embracing those diminishments of liberty for myself. Related: Chris Christie says, regarding the NSA and Patriot Act, "you can't enjoy your civili liberties if you're in a coffin." I'm not saying that puts him in Graham's Executive Uber Alles class of statist; but if I don't link this here, I won't link it at all. Christie is plainly no longer a threat to be president.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Lindsey's running for the D nom, righ?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:12 PM (D0CMn)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (7YlUk)
Fuck that fucking fuck.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (D0CMn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Hoping for second chair to Hillary.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: NCKate at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (tpaSF)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (V7QeA)
Harry Reid does always get his ass kicked by kindergarteners...
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (oVJmc)
Because if so, I'm voting for that guy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: MTF at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (FCsIb)
I actually like that idea.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (7YlUk)
Gay v. Gay. That would have been an interesting race.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (F2IAQ)
* gorge rises *
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (F2IAQ)
The GOP must go full Brazilian: No Bush.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (6GBAx)
I don't have any insurmountable difficulties with it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (V7QeA)
Posted by: Old Blue at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (9iR5/)
THIS.
Got a kick out of Bridget Johnson talking him and his military experience up on Twitter the other day.
He was an Air Force Reserve JAG.
This is as akin to military experience as "cashier" is to "economist".
It's not like the guy was kicking in doors in Fallujah.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (V+kmg)
Wasn't that Perry's platform last time around? Something like "I want to make the government as inconsequential to your life as possible".
Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (MYCIw)
Better yet, ask him if he ever smoked pot and see if he fesses up or pulls a Clinton.
Posted by: mallfly at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (qSIlh)
yes. but that scares the shit out of you guys
Posted by: X at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (n5fTN)
Posted by: Harley Quinn at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (CpiLj)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:13 PM (7YlUk)
Gay v. Gay. That would have been an interesting race.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (2Ojst)
Imagine it: One Black Senator, one Gay Senator, and a "woman of color" as Governor... all Republicans.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Aviator at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (sQzB6)
Yes. Yes. We know. The thing with the pants again.
[not diminishing the real and substantial sacrifices made by our troops and their families]
Posted by: flounder at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (ecDRv)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (MW1Qb)
Heck, that almost seems to be a platform of the Republican Party these days.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (kff5f)
Ravenel spent some time in prison for cocaine. Still, as an independent he would have been way better than Miss Lindsey.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (7YlUk)
SO stealing this...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (V+kmg)
It's not like the guy was kicking in doors in Fallujah.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (V+kmg)
At least being a cashier is a honest days labor...
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: wrg500
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* the painful bloat that precedes retching *
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: no one, ever at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Wendy at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (bpemY)
That's where he started. The message got lost because of pain killers and poor debate performances and... and... I forget.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (kff5f)
Did anyone take McCain seriously?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (F2IAQ)
Only because of Palin
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (S+el1)
Walker becomes president?
Posted by: mallfly at May 19, 2015 04:18 PM (qSIlh)
Get my point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (/tNwW)
Christie/Graham
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Great googlie mooglie! It seems awful early to start drinking, but then again.....
Posted by: Old Blue at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (9iR5/)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (7YlUk)
SO stealing this...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:17 PM (V+kmg)
http://bit.ly/1HfvTHn
Useful picture is included
Posted by: The Brazilian Hat at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (6GBAx)
If he had been for bombing the hell out of everything from the get go that might have been better. Instead he backed Powell's Pottery Barn doctrine-" if you break it you own it." Unfortunately warfare is not a shopping excursion.
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (RJMhd)
Oh well, doesn't matter: all these kooks will be gone by the end of February.
Posted by: MTF at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:15 PM (F2IAQ)
Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmey2WvWnw
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (VAsIq)
Get my point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (/tNwW)
Wait, there are bars that aren't open 24/7?
Posted by: Viva hat Vegas! at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Colorado Alex
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Past tense. The Commissars/Political Officers are now embedded.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (F2IAQ)
F*ck that candidate in particular.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (MX7TD)
Maybe that historic 1st exception would apply to the 1st swishy president?
Maybe you, Domenech and Graham are all wrong by being too general about important specifics.
e.g. The ticking clock nuke you've only got time to dronezap irregardless of the citizenship's.
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2015 04:20 PM (DL2i+)
What has Lindsey stood for other than being the guy leading the charge to giving in to Dems while proudly proclaiming it a victory of bi-partisanship?
I *think* he may have talked tough on Benghazi, or maybe military matters, but overall impression is he's the go-to guy for the Dems to turn and then claim Bi-partisanship!! because they got one GOP rube to sin on.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (V7QeA)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (6GBAx)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (659DL)
Saddam Hussein was a destabilizing force in the middle east. He invaded Kuwait, went to war with Iran, paid money to terrorists to encourage more terrorism. To say that Hussein was not a destabilizing head of state is delusional.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (YI9Ph)
There was an older guy in our small town who lived with his parents and was clearly ghey. When I suggested to my late mom that I believed he was, she was shocked and said, "No, no honey. He's just a confirmed bachelor."
heh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (FsuaD)
Well occasional and late hasn't been working.
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (DL2i+)
Heinlein's is actually a good and comprehensive worldview, though of course incompatible with US Constitution and the notion of freedom. There are compelling sides to fascism and collectivism. We shouldn't deny it.
Posted by: Aristotle at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (U5/cP)
He's a walking endorsement to repeal the 17th.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (8cSVB)
And the comment about not calling a judge but instead using a drone - I'm not sure of the context. If an American citizen goes overseas and joins a foreign army waging war on the United States then no, I do not expect anyone to serve an arrest warrant. I expect that traitor to get exactly the same treatment as anyone else who wages war on the USA.
On the other hand, if the person is in the USA and announces he's going to run off to join ISIS then I expect the usual FBI-arrest-and-trial to happen.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (hLRSq)
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Damned weasels, get off my lawn!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:23 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (659DL)
Better music for the fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0hZG-zNOk
Posted by: Viva hat Vegas! at May 19, 2015 04:23 PM (7YlUk)
unfortunately Gore's 92 Texas campaign manager hadn't thought about it any deeper than as a sound bite because he didn't care about it any deeper than a sound bite. that's why he could think of anything to cut.
Posted by: X at May 19, 2015 04:23 PM (n5fTN)
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 04:23 PM (RJMhd)
Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (/tNwW)
When you're a
Those two should be as far removed from power as Hillary! and SCoaMF.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: duke at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (ChY2Q)
And can we start with a parody of "Kyle's Mom Is A Big Fat Bitch" starring Hillary?
Posted by: Beth M at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: Rev Al at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (nqiq9)
Domenech and the ilk conveniently forget conext. The sanctions regime was falling apart when we invaded. He may not have been destabilizing, but he WOULD have been. Just like Iran.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (659DL)
One of the views that he holds I can respect- the President has a right to choose the people that work for, and represent him. But I think he is a retard to afford that respect to the dems when they won't offer the same respect back.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (6n332)
And the comment about not calling a judge but instead using a drone - I'm not sure of the context. If an American citizen goes overseas and joins a foreign army waging war on the United States then no, I do not expect anyone to serve an arrest warrant. I expect that traitor to get exactly the same treatment as anyone else who wages war on the USA.
On the other hand, if the person is in the USA and announces he's going to run off to join ISIS then I expect the usual FBI-arrest-and-trial to happen.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (hLRSq)
Sounds 100% spot on to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (B0IEg)
Posted by: Aristotle at May 19, 2015 04:22 PM (U5/cP)
In theory maybe, in practice not so much. I am, however, sympathetic to the idea of limiting the franchise.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (2Ojst)
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Which house?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:23 PM
.Good point! A cell number would do. I wondered if he was in town yesterday while covering up my wife's flowers to protect them from the snow last night. He seems to be able to make is snow anytime he shows up.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (6GBAx)
This is as akin to military experience as "cashier" is to "economist".
It's not like the guy was kicking in doors in Fallujah.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (V+kmg)
I'm no particular fan of Lindsey Graham, but get your facts straight. He served in the Air Force on active duty from 1982 to 1989. He then joined the South Carolina Air National Guard until 1995, when he finally entered the Air Force Reserves. As a reservist, he was called to active duty in Iraq in 2007, and Afghanistan in 2009.
Posted by: A. Guy at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (1EJIj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:19 PM (/tNwW)
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Huh? Bars close at 3am now?
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 04:26 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 19, 2015 04:26 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2015 04:24 PM (659DL)
Yes the sanctions were falling apart, but unlike today, where OUR OWN President are tearing down the ones against Iran. How times have changed
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:26 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: wooga, perforated crackers are for closers at May 19, 2015 04:26 PM (Mi8dt)
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When I hear Libs make that argument, I ask them about Kuwait.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2015 04:27 PM (F2IAQ)
I don't think he's going to get in, he had a limited window in the last cycle where he could do no wrong, but things haven't gone well for him, and he's really damaged his standing within the party. His convention speech, the obama embrace, the bridge thing (which is absurd... I expect, nay demand my NJ politicians to ruthlessly exact political revenge agains their enemies) lot's of unforced errors. Things aren't going well here, and he's not getting the same juice that he used to from soundbytes of him yelling at teachers.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 19, 2015 04:27 PM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Anna Puma
Watch the Poultrygeist, instead, starring me, your old friend!
Posted by: the chicken, whom you choked to death at May 19, 2015 04:27 PM (VAsIq)
Maybe with all the RINOS this time, we will end up with a Reagan?
I know who I like, and Lindsey is not on the list.
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (Hf9yr)
This is as akin to military experience as "cashier" is to "economist".
It's not like the guy was kicking in doors in Fallujah.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 04:16 PM (V+kmg)
I'm no particular fan of Lindsey Graham, but get your facts straight. He served in the Air Force on active duty from 1982 to 1989. He then joined the South Carolina Air National Guard until 1995, when he finally entered the Air Force Reserves. As a reservist, he was called to active duty in Iraq in 2007, and Afghanistan in 2009.
Posted by: A. Guy at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (1EJIj)
I think Bannion's point is that Lindsay was a JAG that whole time. So not sure what your point is?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (/tNwW)
Alternate post tittle:
Carry On My Wayward Son
Dont you cry no more.
Masquerding as a man with a reason..
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (D0CMn)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Carol at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (sj3Ax)
"I respect the diminished liberty that soldiers have volunteered to live under in order to efficiently protect my life. However, my respect stops well short at embracing those diminishments of liberty for myself."
George "Ace" Orwell said:
"Rough men stand guard ready to wreak violence on your behalf so that you may
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (6GBAx)
Answer: the likes of Grahamnesty would have risen to new levels of prominence and power in a McCain administration.
(While Sarah Palin would have been forced out of the picture into some obscure internal exile, trotted out only when they needed someone to go attend the funeral of the former deputy prime minister of Macedonia.)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (1CroS)
The crowd sat at rapt attention, and the music was the usual Germanic Forest People Barbarian Meh.
Seven people died from beer mixed with sauerkraut farts.
Oddly, every single attendee died within 11 years.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (72D6h)
I don't think he understood why people liked those. I think he thought it was because people don't like teachers - which isn't true.
People liked them for two reasons: 1) they don't like teacher's unions and B) they liked that someone was willing to grasp a proverbial "third rail" and then defend his position.
Then we found out about more of his positions, and they weren't so good.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (kff5f)
I've since reached the conclusion that once we have fought and people have died for a piece of ground we will never give it back. We fought for it, we died for it, we won, it's ours
My complaint with Graham and McCain and others is how they vote. Things that are in the national interest get speeches, but their votes go toward advancing their political career.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (YI9Ph)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (6GBAx)
So it the democratic side, except hillary's ass is so big there is not room for anyone else in the clown car
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (/tNwW)
Hello sailor!
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Minnfidel
I'm not running!
Posted by: Someone Everyone Likes at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (VAsIq)
He identified a very specific problem, i.e. that people who've sacrificed for a society are no more valued than folks who reap the benefits without making any real sacrifices. It's exactly the problem we face today.
If you want to see that as a "fascist" conceit, you have an odd definition of fascist. It certainly is something we better figure out a solution to in a hurry, because the way things are is going to be the death of us all.
Posted by: Tony Stark at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: 98% of the American public at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at May 19, 2015 04:31 PM (YYJjz)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:31 PM (FsuaD)
post idea??
If You Could Karaoke One Song, Which Would It Be?
Me: Aqualung by Jethro Tull...or Carry On Wayward Son
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:31 PM (D0CMn)
Great comment. What part of invading Kuwait would be considered "stabilizing"?
Omitting that is almost Bagdad Bob territory. What a slap in the face to the veterans of the first Gulf War, hell at the time they had to fear chemical attack.
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 04:31 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:32 PM (/tNwW)
Maybe with all the RINOS this time, we will end up with a Reagan?
I know who I like, and Lindsey is not on the list.
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:28 PM (Hf9yr)"
Which one's though really? I don't think we had a real good stacked deck of actual conservatives. We had a few that have been given that cloak of credibility but really have acted otherwise, then we had a bunch of marginal also rans, rotating as the non-mitt until they imploded themselves.
I mean, New Gingrich was never going to get the nomination, neither was Michelle Bachman, or Herman Cain, or Buddy Roemer. Huntman, he's not a conservative, Santorum a social-con/big government type. Perry stumbled out of the gates with the terrible debate system we continue to use....
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 19, 2015 04:32 PM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 19, 2015 04:32 PM (oVJmc)
post idea??
If You Could Karaoke One Song, Which Would It Be?
Me: Aqualung by Jethro Tull...or Carry On Wayward Son
Posted by: Soothsayer
"Please" by Kaleidoscope would be my choice for best Karaoke-able song
Posted by: 98% of the American public at May 19, 2015 04:32 PM (jBuUi)
"As a reservist, he was called to active duty in Iraq in 2007, and Afghanistan in 2009."
Where he was not kicking in doors.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:32 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2015 04:33 PM (jBuUi)
Joe Biden: "Alright, who busted the Xerox?"
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 19, 2015 04:33 PM (hqZPQ)
However, just cant see McCain marrying down money-wise.
Posted by: the roost aint what it used to be at May 19, 2015 04:33 PM (7GI9v)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:33 PM (6GBAx)
I like Rand Paul. I will never, never, ever vote for him if Daddy Luap Nor is still alive. Because I know, sure as the sun rises, that about October 20th, 2016, good old Ronnie will say somenthing stupid about how the nazis or the Klan weren't that bad.
and you know it too.
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:34 PM (Hf9yr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:34 PM (/tNwW)
Then we found out about more of his positions, and they weren't so good.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:29 PM (kff5f)"
Yeah I think you have that nailed. I can just say one thing... when he vetoed the fire arms bills that came to his desk, it was because he was considering a run for national office, otherwise he signs them. So let's hope they don't make it back to his desk.
He took way too long deliberating that garbage for my liking.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Minnfidel
Doesn't matter. Wont get nominated.
Name Recognition is 90% of the battle in running for president.
Kasich has minimal name recognition nationally. Ferget it.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (jBuUi)
Carry on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (KklUr)
"Oopps I Did It Again" by Susan Rice
Oh wait talking about me... well
https://youtu.be/mi5GFuvCIp4
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (B0IEg)
You can't enjoy them when you're in chains either, you fat fucktard!
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (/yNLK)
Because if so, I'm voting for that guy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (kff5f)
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I'm voting with Allen.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (A98Xu)
Carry on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (KklUr)
And of course the less beautiful, the more beer you need. Hey how are the vimin on Okinawa?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: LIV at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: ISIS in Iraq at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (FsuaD)
What's funny is that a shit-ton of $80/hr aerospace manufacturing jobs are about to evaporate as Boeing shuts down and sells off the former Douglas plant in Long Beach, which just built its final C-17 airlifter. And those jobs are NOT coming back to the L.A. basin, nor to anywhere else in Commiefornia.
Shedding jobs at the high end of the wage scale, while simultaneously shifting the lower end of the wage scale upwards to lose jobs there, too.
Last I looked, Los Angeles County had something like 55% of its population dependent upon government transfer payments in some way, shape or form. Looks as though it won't be long before it's up to two-thirds.
Maybe the Norks will nuke the place. It seems the only way out.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (6GBAx)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (6GBAx)
Never developed a taste for fruit, I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (FsuaD)
Jane, you live in a much prettier part of the Country, but the FOOD is much better up here in NJ, especially the Italian type. Ohum them peppers and veal...mama mia!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM
What he really needed was mouthband surgery....
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (P8YHq)
Whoa now. Are you sure you want to go that far out on the limb?
The balls on that guy!
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:36 PM (noWW6)
Could always sell it back to Mexico. Would serve them right.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (A98Xu)
Kasich: meh. He's my governor and he's been ok on some issues (taxes down - sorta), worse on others (Obamacare exchange - OH was one of the first). Definitely not a small government conservative, but does tend to watch the pennies. He IS a combative, hard-headed little fucker. Which is good when he's right, problematic the other 98% of the time.
Posted by: Rev Al at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (nqiq9)
(Sorry, I'm a nerd for knowing that...)
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (hqZPQ)
Because if so, I'm voting for that guy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (kff5f)
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I'm voting with Allen.
Posted by: Seems Legit
Us, too!
Posted by: Terrorists at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Rev Al at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (mmlFU)
He identified a very specific problem, i.e. that people who've sacrificed for a society are no more valued than folks who reap the benefits without making any real sacrifices. It's exactly the problem we face today.
If you want to see that as a "fascist" conceit, you have an odd definition of fascist. It certainly is something we better figure out a solution to in a hurry, because the way things are is going to be the death of us all.
Posted by: Tony Stark at May 19, 2015 04:30 PM (DT3rQ)
Universal suffrage criticism isn't the only "fascist" thingie in ST. It's more than that - his political society is hierarchical and military like.
Posted by: Aristotle at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (U5/cP)
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (A98Xu)
Ah don't get to worked up over him, he is irrelevant. He just doesn't know it yet. Everyone else seems to know.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (/tNwW)
I can just see the White House Christmas part(ies). Like in the movie "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil," where Kevin Spacey's ghey character throws two parties: the first night is for "confirmed bachelors" and the second is for everyone else.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (FsuaD)
Old and busted: Maturity, responsibility, and circumspection.
New hotness: I'm holding the conch, and all your liberty belong to us.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (4hWLC)
Said facility having been there since before the days of Amelia Earhart. Nice going, California!
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (nqiq9)
This is as akin to military experience as "cashier" is to "economist".
Aren't they now the ones that tell the pilots if it is OK to drop the bombs on the Taliban?
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (Hf9yr)
If I'm a manual laborer, I'm saying f that shit and going to work at McDonalds.
Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (MYCIw)
(Sorry, I'm a nerd for knowing that...)
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM (hqZPQ)
Well and a warm toilet seat
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Linday Graham at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (8cSVB)
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Stu-22 at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (vd4oB)
Posted by: Rev Al at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (nqiq9)
Fail, infidel socker!
Posted by: ISIS in Iraq at May 19, 2015 04:40 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (Hf9yr)
No. They are the ones that say "IF" you drop that bomb your on your own buddy!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Rev Al at May 19, 2015 04:38 PM
..............Thanks. Good to know. I was just wondering if he was someone I could see as a dark horse. Sounds like no.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (6GBAx)
Graham is a genuine scum but not as dumb a scum as most of his actions would lead you to believe.
Posted by: the roost aint what it used to be at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (7GI9v)
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (B0IEg)
Posted by: John Kerry at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (W6iIX)
But Washington DC Statists, and those of us who are for Freedom and Liberty.
Graham is not a Democrat, he is a Republican Statist... which is just as threatening to our Liberty, as Obama is.... because he is supposed to be in the party which would LIMIT the over reach of those in the other party...
They have not been doing that since the early 1900s.... when they decided to start changing the RULES by which they would play... instead of competing within the rules...
Posted by: BB Wolf at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (qh617)
McDonalds are going to be run by robots before too long.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (S+el1)
Because if so, I'm voting for that guy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 19, 2015 04:14 PM (kff5f)
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I'm voting with Allen.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 19, 2015 04:35 PM (A98Xu)
Rand Paul.
Everybody seems to hate him, though, because he's got that attitude for foreign policy as well.
Slightly on topic: My son got out of the USMC after 12 years as a Gunnery Sergeant.
I asked him why.
His one word answer: Politics
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (M+9nV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Sure it did. His belly laps over his waistband.
Oh, wait...
Posted by: Aviator at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (sQzB6)
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (hqZPQ)
Posted by: Minnfidel
"That's RAAAA--"
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (VAsIq)
More accurate quotation: "I can't enjoy my wholesale orders of Krispy Kremes if I'm in a coffin." - Chris Christie
Posted by: Jordan at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (jsYc/)
Graham is a genuine scum but not as dumb a scum as most of his actions would lead you to believe.
Posted by: the roost aint what it used to be at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (7GI9v)
He also says he is running to STOP Rand Paul? But your right I detest his politics but he is no dumby
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (/tNwW)
Graham is a genuine scum but not as dumb a scum as most of his actions would lead you to believe.
Posted by: the roost aint what it used to be at May 19, 2015 04:41 PM (7GI9v)
He also says he is running to STOP Rand Paul? But your right I detest his politics but he is no dumby
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2015 04:43 PM (DL2i+)
Didn't Samuel Adams say that?
Hey, you fat f*cking RINO: Live free or die.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 19, 2015 04:43 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:39 PM (/yNLK)
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Haven't seen any "Come to California" commercials lately. Maybe they now know they're a business pariah.
Ah, shit. Who am I kidding.
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 04:43 PM (/HX7u)
"That's RAAAA--"
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:42 PM
..Sorry. I will go loot my own house now.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 19, 2015 04:43 PM (6GBAx)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:44 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 04:44 PM (iQIUe)
"our first openly-sexually-ambiguous President? Historic!"
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: James Buchanan at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (0k/27)
I'm not afraid to make the tough calls and set triggers off all over with reckless abandon.
Sitting here drinking beer where the beautiful women at ...
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (KklUr)
Country, but the FOOD is much better up here in NJ, especially the
Italian type. Ohum them peppers and veal...mama mia!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:37 PM (/tNwW)
You haven't been here in a while, have you? The Florence is Hugh Acheson's new place and it will blow your mind. And we've got a New York duo who've opened The Grey (in the old Greyhound bus station) and Rue de Jean (French, natch) out of Charleston. Also, Leoci's is awesome Italian by a celeb chef (who also has a place in a boutique hotel, Pacci.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (FsuaD)
Rick Perry in 2011 said he wanted to get government out of our lives.
He's supposed to make his announcement June 4.
Posted by: Carol at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (sj3Ax)
Agreed. This is the only place I know that seems to understand that. When I mention it in other venues, including family ones, they look at me like I'm some kind of fanatic. Which I s'pose is true.
I'm all for watering the Tree of Liberty again, but there seems to be a shortage of people willing to do so.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (nqiq9)
Ace didn't post about the afro-american "doctor professor" who mocked a white woman [who was raped as a child] over twitter because since she was White it was impossible to be a victim, indeed, the white woman was part of The Problem.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:46 PM (D0CMn)
You know what this thread needs more of?
Correct. Tuesday rapiness.
You need to check out the thread below. Lots of rape. Lots and lots and lots of rape.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (/yNLK)
I bet the GOP is down to six by March 2016 and a two person race shortly thereafter.
Posted by: MTF at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Warden at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (wHAYQ)
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 04:47 PM (RJMhd)
I noted earlier that the current push in the Congress to federally outlaw ammo sales by mail is coming from two Democrats in New Jersey. One of who has had her two adult sons do a couple of years in the lockup for first-degree robbery!
If Christie were made of solid conservative stuff, he'd be out there turning the hot spotlight of public ridicule on this woman. Using the bully pulpit to chase away a bona fide bully. Except that he's not.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (noWW6)
"our first openly-sexually-ambiguous President? Historic!"
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: James Buchanan
lol, that was, like, thirty years ago, brah.
Posted by: Ezra Klein at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (VAsIq)
"You listed rape twice..."
Posted by: SGTYork at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 04:44 PM (iQIUe)
Cutting that off too sounds like a good idea...
Posted by: Jihadist at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (7YlUk)
Ellen Jamesians?
Yes, they were messed up - though mattress girls hasn't (yet) inspired anyone to follow her mattress stunt.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (V7QeA)
what Lindsay did/does in the Military
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Gonna chalk that up his liking to watch other men shower.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 19, 2015 04:48 PM (kdS6q)
Sounds fine Jane. And grits! Ain't finding them in NJ.
Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2015 04:49 PM (fQAkR)
Posted by: fly gal at May 19, 2015 04:49 PM (8TdcF)
How about the Ferguson Protest Leaders getting upset because their bosses are stiffing them?
Twitter #cutthecheck
Also Weasel Zippers
Posted by: rd at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (Hf9yr)
Or to put it another way: McCain had to forget things like honor and duty. Miss Lindsey never knew them.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (TOk1P)
That photo of green Miss Lindsay in the sidebar is my new diet aid.
Posted by: fly gal at May 19, 2015 04:49 PM (8TdcF)
And those teefs are almost Kennedy-esque.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
But *this* thread was sorely lacking. And you all chipped in and made a miracle!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (VAsIq)
I can think of few that did not extend the reach of executive power when it suited them to do so, some in more restrained fashion than others.
Nixon's biggest failure as President was not Watergate or Vietnam, it was the wholesale extension of the administrative-law state in a manner achieved by few before or since.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 19, 2015 04:45 PM (nqiq9)
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Too much comfort, EBT's, SS, and other gubmint giveaways. Once those dry up and the political winds don't change, THEN we might see the stirrings of people who want to fight.
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (/HX7u)
He thought that during the cold war, an authoritarian government was needed to face down threat of communism.
I can sympathize with that point of view 'cuz if I was ever elected President, there would be some changes made. Which is the danger, of course.
Incidentally, if anyone wants to gift me two thousand bucks, I'll buy one of those sets of Heinlein's work, if there are any left.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (YI9Ph)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:50 PM (VAsIq)
Every Tuesday is Rapey Tuesday.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (FsuaD)
There was a securities analyst conference where the CFO of Boeing appeared, and someone got up to ask said CFO whether Boeing might possibly put production of a different jet like the 737 into the Long Beach factory, or move the tooling from Long Beach to a new factory in a lower-wage region of California.
The response was, as accurately as I can render it,
"Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah NO."
It's frankly a breach of fiduciary duty for anyone to commit capital to any form of manufacturing business in this state.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Groot at May 19, 2015 04:51 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Chris Crispy at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Don Pardo at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (KOaTi)
Any honest discussion of the limits on executive power in foreign affairs might be helpful. But that's not going to happen on a satire site.
Posted by: Adjoran at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (QIQ6j)
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 19, 2015 04:53 PM (M+9nV)
Groveling man, "But I like Guiness..."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 04:53 PM (B0IEg)
Because the NFL will adjust Brady's suspension to only the pre-season.
Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2015 04:54 PM (fQAkR)
Any honest discussion of the limits on executive power in foreign affairs might be helpful. But that's not going to happen on a satire site.
Posted by: Adjoran at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (QIQ6j)
I remember debating with a Libertarian, and he casually mentioned that brothels filled with underaged children was a spiffy idea...
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ at May 19, 2015 04:54 PM (7YlUk)
You used to be an intelligent commenter, too.
Did someone with a Luap Nor bumpersticker touch you inappropriately?
Posted by: kartoffel at May 19, 2015 04:54 PM (fVxXv)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 19, 2015 04:54 PM (KOaTi)
There was an older guy in our small town who lived with his parents and was clearly ghey. When I suggested to my late mom that I believed he was, she was shocked and said, "No, no honey. He's just a confirmed bachelor."
heh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 04:21 PM (FsuaD)
Fallout New Vegas had a perk you could get for male characters called "confirmed bachelor." It gave a bonus when dealing with other male npcs. I believe there was a similar one for females too that had a *wink wink* name as well.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2015 04:55 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2015 04:55 PM (D0CMn)
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But, the buffet line should watch out.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 19, 2015 04:55 PM (QyBQv)
And I say that as a tremendous fan of Tesla's products.
Boeing HQ's move to Chicago was presumably an effort to keep their executive hands massaging UA's executive crotch, otherwise I guess it puts them in the same timezone as St Louis, Wichita, etc.
I'm sure they see little reason beyond history and existing plant to invest in the Seattle area either.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 19, 2015 04:56 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Kelly Ayotte at May 19, 2015 04:56 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Don Pardo at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (KOaTi)
My guess. They cut a deal. Kraft will not appeal his part or make anymore noise but the NFL will cut Brady's suspension down to 2 games when he appeals. Just a guess
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 04:56 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Old Blue at May 19, 2015 04:56 PM (9iR5/)
One hour later the Chinese owner puts out a sign "Closed Fo-evah!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (B0IEg)
Mattress girl is reminding me of The World According to Garp. Didnt they have some cult where women cut off their tongues?
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 04:44 PM (iQIUe)
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If I remember correctly, the girls chose not to talk and instead carried around paper to write on, but they didn't cut out their tongues. This was to bring attention to one of the girls who had been raped and the rapist cut her tongue out so she couldn't testify.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (6n332)
You used to be an intelligent commenter, too.
Did someone with a Luap Nor bumpersticker touch you inappropriately?
Posted by: kartoffel at May 19, 2015 04:54 PM (fVxXv)
He's nothing more than a troll that thinks Ted Cruz is a bogey man under his bed. He's no longer here to discuss things. Just drop his comment turd and run away like a little bitch.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (z/Ubi)
Football League's team punishment for using underinflated footballs in
the American Football Conference championship game, owner Robert Kraft
said today.
Posted by: Don Pardo at May 19, 2015 04:52 PM (KOaTi)
In other words, Roger showed Kraft an envelope, with photos involving live boys and/or dead girls, and told Kraft to shut his mottled face if he knows what's good for him.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (TOk1P)
See 227. A million bucks is nothing to Kraft.
Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (fQAkR)
Posted by: Groot at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (VAsIq)
He's a very dangerous individual but SC keeps re-electing him.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 19, 2015 04:57 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: PPs43 at May 19, 2015 04:58 PM (gs8t9)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 19, 2015 04:58 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: maddogg at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (xWW96)
He makes sense occasionally.....just enough to keep the wolves at bay.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (LAe3v)
Mattress girl is reminding me of The World According to Garp. Didnt they have some cult where women cut off their tongues?
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 04:44 PM (iQIUe)
blow job/car accident/not a happy ending
IIRC
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (QyBQv)
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My favorite Guardian!
Posted by: Old Blue at May 19, 2015 04:56 PM (9iR5/)
I thought the best one was Sven...
Posted by: The guarding Hat at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (7YlUk)
Christie is still in the competition for these positions:
The U.S. Senate
Michelin commercials
A stand-in for the Fat Bastard character in future Austin Powers sequels
A stand-in for the Mr. Creosote character in future Monty Python films
A minor "Pluto"-class planet
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (VAsIq)
How on Earth did he even get this far in life to become a Senator? And the hubris for him to run for President and this he's viable? The ego is breathtaking.
Posted by: McAdams at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (Yl4rU)
Posted by: maddogg at May 19, 2015 05:00 PM (xWW96)
The people making the Gosnell movie interviewed Gosnell in prison. Thinks got very weird. very. Weird.
"The interview was one of the creepiest we have ever conducted," McAleer continued -adding that the abortionist reportedly groped fellow Gosnell movie filmmaker Ann McElhinney, saying "Gosnell continually touched her inappropriately and sang love songs."
Ultimately, when additional details are made available, "It will be a shocking interview - with shocking details of Gosnells life behind bars and his complete lack of remorse for his horrific crimes."
McAleer concludes about Gosnell: "He is so relaxed, he has no remorse and behaved completely inappropriately with Ann =touching her and singing love songs -it was a bizarre, bizarre experience."
Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2015 05:00 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 19, 2015 05:00 PM (o+SC1)
Christie is still in the competition for these positions:
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Stunt double, Brian Dennehy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (QyBQv)
Jon Lithgow in drag. And on yeah Robin William's wife is giving oral in a car when the vehicle is hit... so she bites the whacker off.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (B0IEg)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 04:59 PM (VAsIq)
Better idea: Make him a DM for a AD&D campaign with the Presidential candidates as the various members of the dungeon party.
Posted by: The +8 Hat of Hattening at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (7YlUk)
Mattress Girl has an entourage who is helping her carry the thing at graduation. Its so stupid.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (iQIUe)
Lets see... how did the rules for radicals go...
Personalize it... by making idiots the spokesmen for an idea...
Then ridicule it... by making fun of the idiots that you made the spokesmen in the first place...
Thus minimizing the impact of a political idea which would fight against the All Powerful State...
Thanks... you are now part of the problem... not part of the solution...
Posted by: BB Wolf at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (qh617)
shocking interview - with shocking details of Gosnells life behind bars
and his complete lack of remorse for his horrific crimes."
McAleer concludes about Gosnell: "He is so relaxed, he has no
remorse and behaved completely inappropriately with Ann =touching her
and singing love songs -it was a bizarre, bizarre experience."
Substitute Hillary for Gosnell, and there's no difference.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:02 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 19, 2015 05:02 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 19, 2015 05:02 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 05:03 PM (B0IEg)
Posted by: pep
Except Hildebeast will never go to prison for her crimes.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:03 PM (VAsIq)
Yup. Lindsey Graham is that guy.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 19, 2015 04:58 PM
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Missed that film, but I think Fred Armisen plays him pretty well in the Eurotrip train scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvbrN4CQ8JA
Posted by: irright at May 19, 2015 05:04 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2015 05:04 PM (LEK0k)
Their constituents keep re-electing them, so don't give them too much credit.
Posted by: kartoffel at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (fVxXv)
Posted by: Buzzion
I'm gonna go with ego.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: John Kerry at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: A. Guy at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (1EJIj)
Oh, OK, the VAST majority of his service was in the Reserves.
Yeah, I could see where that would completely invalidate my point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
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I think it's 1-800-ALI-SGOD.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (LcwNt)
I think the more radical Ellen Jamisons did cut out their tongues.
Mattress Girl has an entourage who is helping her carry the thing at graduation. Its so stupid. Posted by: Bruce J. at May 19, 2015 05:01 PM (iQIUe)
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You are probably right, I haven't read the book or seen the movie since the 80s.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (6n332)
Diff character. Ellen James was a rape victim whose attacker cut her tongue out to prevent her from talking about it.
I know I shouldn't be surprised that mattress girl not only dragged the darn thing through the graduation ceremony, but the admin *let her* and others helped her? F&%$ all of them!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (V7QeA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Zwei drei vier one two three
Its easy to see
But its not that I don't care so
Cause I hear it all the time
But they never let you know
On the TV and the radio
She was young her heart was pure
But every night is bright she got
She said sugar is sweet
She come rappin' to the beat
Then I knew that she was hot
She was singin
Don't turn around, oh oh
Der Kommissar's in town, oh oh
You're in his eye
And you'll know why
The more you live
The faster you will die
Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:06 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 05:06 PM (/HX7u)
(slight crush)
Posted by: adams and hawkeye are my favorites at May 19, 2015 05:06 PM (QxGys)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (Ym7CH)
Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2015 05:06 PM (/HX7u)
I'd like to think that people on the GOP side are that clever, but the evidence eludes me.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Mohommed Ali at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Yo! at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (W6iIX)
Or the ones who do it gleefully, such as Peter King (that's the one who thinks his job is denouncing Ted Cruz, right?).
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (V7QeA)
Like McCain, Graham enjoys and relishes providing fodder which inspires progressives to write about his clever little bon mots such as the WaPo Dana Milbank's stupid article about the Republican Clown Car of candidates and Graham's dumb jokes about it.
Posted by: Cheri at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: Mike at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (1V9qu)
The administration must have been real proud, showing all those tuition-paying parents the quality of graduates that their little shithole diploma mill is turning out into the world.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (8ZskC)
your facts straight. He served in the Air Force on active duty from 1982
to 1989. He then joined the South Carolina Air National Guard until
1995, when he finally entered the Air Force Reserves. As a reservist, he
was called to active duty in Iraq in 2007, and Afghanistan in 2009.
Posted by: A. Guy at May 19, 2015 04:25 PM (1EJIj)
Oh, OK, the VAST majority of his service was in the Reserves.
Yeah, I could see where that would completely invalidate my point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
Yeah, and let's be particularly clear about that "called to active duty" nonsense in Iraq/Afghanistan. He jetted in over there long enough to get his service time/medals. Like the REMF he is, even when he's serving during wartime, in a war zone, he's still a peacetime REMF.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Peter King at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (ztOda)
....fearless turds who hump and lie.
One hundred men will test today...
But only 1 gets a pink beret...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: John Kerry
-
Me and Nixon.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 19, 2015 05:07 PM (Ym7CH)
I actually helped invade it.
Except they didn't tell us where we were.
We did get medals (Armed Forces Expeditionary), though.
I did not throw it over any fence.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (M+9nV)
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (RJMhd)
It's his current politics that are the issue.
Stay focused folks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (/tNwW)
tuition-paying parents the quality of graduates that their little
shithole diploma mill is turning out into the world.
They sent their kids there, which suggests they were not at all displeased.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (LAe3v)
The wrong South Carolinian is running. It should be Nikki Haley.
Posted by: Mike at May 19, 2015 05:08 PM (1V9qu)
True. Her state just beat out my state (GA) for the first U. S. Volvo plant.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (FsuaD)
Dear Columbia U.
Why should I send my kid to your school for $95k/year if she will probably be raped?
answer slow now.....
Posted by: Yo! at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (W6iIX)
1. Split the RINO vote in the primaries
2. ????
3. PROFIT!!!
Posted by: Karl Rove at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Maty Clottenstone from Idiotsboro, USSR at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (gXsdk)
You used to be an intelligent commenter, too.
Did someone with a Luap Nor bumpersticker touch you inappropriately?
Posted by: kartoffel
you can lead a statist to water, but you can't make him stop sucking government cock.
Posted by: X at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (n5fTN)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:11 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Men at May 19, 2015 05:11 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2015 05:09 PM (TOk1P)
I was in a joint billet when I was in Iraq (OIF-1).
The USAF types rotated out every 90 days.
It was fucking ridiculous.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:11 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 05:11 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Devo at May 19, 2015 05:12 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2015 05:11 PM (FsuaD)
All the Moron men?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2015 05:12 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Jane D'oh I have too Jane. Although TRav with his personal problems can be a little loose his actual platform was more Tea Party than the others. He was way outspent and didn't have theright team around him IMO.
Posted by: Cheri at May 19, 2015 05:12 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Juan Williams was the clear winner of the debate.
Posted by: George Stephanopopopopopplus at May 19, 2015 05:12 PM (VAsIq)
Deer Fat Fuck,
I can't enjoy my civil liberties while you have your jackboot on my neck, either.
Peace, out!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at May 19, 2015 05:12 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Mr Ed at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (2tben)
Stay focused folks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (/tNwW)
Here I started hating his guts during the Gang of 7 bullshit back in 2005. Sorry about all that longstanding hatred.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (QyBQv)
Posted by: Georgia O'Keefe at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (vgIRn)
I can't stand either one of them, but I'll bet KG. The real question is whether JW understood the concept of having his ass handed to him.
In all fairness, it's a tough gig. The token libs on that show must get very tired of defending the indefensible, but that's their job.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (LAe3v)
A sort of militarized socialism, you might say.
Much like Graham, only slightly less welfare-y.
Posted by: Phinn at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (DLUnW)
Or with pillows, I'm not picky.
Posted by: typical disgusting Moron at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: John Kerry, glad someone else is being called horse-like at May 19, 2015 05:14 PM (VAsIq)
It's his current politics that are the issue.
Stay focused folks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 05:10 PM (/tNwW)
Dude, I know.
If you go back to my original post, it was that someone else - not I - was hawking his military experience as a qualifier for office compared to the rest of the field, and the Demi field.
However, being a JAG does not offer one the same perspective as say, being a maneuver battalion commander.
Although, in the Officer's Club afterwards, no one can really figure it out after the first three shots...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:14 PM (V+kmg)
A sort of militarized socialism, you might say.
Much like Graham, only slightly less welfare-y.
Posted by: Phinn at May 19, 2015 05:13 PM (DLUnW)
And they say they're not fascists....
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:14 PM (V+kmg)
Dude, I know.
If you go back to my original post, it was that someone else - not I - was hawking his military experience as a qualifier for office compared to the rest of the field, and the Demi field.
However, being a JAG does not offer one the same perspective as say, being a maneuver battalion commander.
Although, in the Officer's Club afterwards, no one can really figure it out after the first three shots...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:14 PM (V+kmg)
I know. It was not directed at you.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2015 05:15 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 19, 2015 05:15 PM (QyBQv)
He's basically a lifelong government bureaucrat as a far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: McAdams at May 19, 2015 05:15 PM (Yl4rU)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 19, 2015 05:15 PM (8cSVB)
Posted by: Sean Bannion
...and tongues and ties are loosened, and maybe some clothes come off...
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, reliving the heat of battle at May 19, 2015 05:15 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Yo! at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (W6iIX)
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Fritz
They'd keep agreeing with each other, but angrily, and in increasing octaves.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Yo! at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (W6iIX)
Don't all BGs have a star?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 19, 2015 05:17 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:17 PM (VAsIq)
I saw 'The World According To Garp' when in first came out in 1982. The Jamesians really did come off like a bunch of out-there feminist kooks, as was intended. These days, though, I don't know, in order to get the same effect, a writer would have to come up with something even more goofy. What that would be, I don't know.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 19, 2015 05:18 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: Yo! at May 19, 2015 05:18 PM (W6iIX)
Mr Grahm is a BG with a star, noodle on that some
Posted by: Yo!
Lindsay Graham is a sneetch? I think not.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:18 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Muckraker at May 19, 2015 05:18 PM (1Y+hH)
Speaking of museums, took my kids to the Hill Air Force Base Museum in Utah.
Pretty planes.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 19, 2015 05:19 PM (VAsIq)
Jean Francois Cary lives but real men like George 'Bud' Day are dead. That really chaps the chaps.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 05:19 PM (B0IEg)
World War memorial. (it was locked) The wife asked which war, and I
noted the neoStalinist architecture and statuary surrounding it, and
knew right away that it had to be WWI. FDR loved him some neoStalinism.
Posted by: pep at May 19, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)
You didn't miss too much. It's a couple fairly large rooms with equipment/uniforms under glass and on display. Nothing spectacular.
I know what you mean regarding the architecture, but heck, I kinda like the style.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2015 05:19 PM (TOk1P)
The drone is a new tool. If you just want to transmute tangos into a greasy spot with the loss of some high-energy ions from the vapor portion of the tango remains, it seems just the ticket. If they're foreigners, I don't have a problem with it. Think of the savings in lives, time, and treasure. We should do more of it. (And, btw, why don't we have have some nice camps where we can keep prominent Muslims as hostages?)
American citizens have inalienable rights. They can't even give them away without renouncing their citizenship. Of course, at some point...
However, government must be strictly limited to enumerated powers, else we become serfs.
Oh, wait!
Posted by: Esteban Blanco-Negro de Sevilla at May 19, 2015 05:19 PM (SnOME)
By 2009, 24 hours.
Fuck Lindsay.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 19, 2015 05:20 PM (OsWis)
Let's also remember that the JAG corps were handed the job of enforcing plainly ridiculous and unreasonably subjective rules of engagement. Stuffing liberal lawfare down the throats of the rank and file soldiery.
Instead of pushing back against the command structure and saying, "This is facially unlawful and we're bound by oath to reject such measures, they are not reasonably enforceable, and the guidelines provided need to be far more clear than they are," the JAG-offs instead saluted smartly and went out and ruined a bunch of lives and military careers over gray-area post-hoc judgement calls.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2015 05:22 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2015 05:22 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: fastfreefall at May 19, 2015 05:23 PM (desXV)
Still gotta say that ANYONE who served honorably (and it pains to have to qualify it) in ANY capacity deserves to be honored for their service.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2015 05:26 PM (jeCnD)
Figures like Graham are running because they're arrogant enough to think they can be President. It's not some 3rd dimensional chess where he's posing as a stalking horse for someone else. Do you really think Lindsey's ego would allow him to play that subservient role to another politician?
South Carolina has a pretty shitty track record (after all they keep electing Graham) so I'm not terribly disappointed if he basically takes SC out of the game and splits the self-loathing Republican vote with other people like Jeb or Christie.
Posted by: McAdams at May 19, 2015 05:27 PM (Yl4rU)
But, at four AM when your shooting empty Jack bottles off the back deck, it becomes apparent again.
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2015 05:28 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 19, 2015 05:03 PM (B0IEg)
Nope, he can be this:
http://bit.ly/1AjXeej
Posted by: The +9 Hat of Hattening at May 19, 2015 05:31 PM (7YlUk)
Why? Well President Clinton was the president for much of the no fly zone enforcement and Obama is presiding over the mass terrorism now.
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 05:33 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: River Guide at May 19, 2015 05:36 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Feh at May 19, 2015 05:40 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: Reince Priebus & Karl Rove at May 19, 2015 05:42 PM (ORhc3)
If so, as Christie implies, then the terrorists won.
Posted by: Matt_SE at May 19, 2015 06:08 PM (axNZt)
he voted to confirm:
eric holder
sonya sotomayor
elana kagan
loretta lynch
thats all we need to know about him
Posted by: sound awake at May 19, 2015 06:25 PM (uzSEC)
Posted by: mc at May 19, 2015 07:50 PM (xuXpE)
...says more about the electorate than the elected. Just sayin' SC.
Posted by: dogfish at May 19, 2015 09:36 PM (jWtyG)
I forgot about the promise for a heliport. It hasn't happened although it looks like it is pretty close - one near west and one in Bridgeport.
Who would have thought Chicago would "forget" about the heliport - since Mayor Richie! Daley loved aviation and all - see Meigs Field.
Posted by: bigdaddygeo at May 19, 2015 10:56 PM (BtGrZ)
The notion that a judge needs to sign off on previously authorized military action just because the combatant is an American traitor is kooky, unAmerican, and a violation of two hundred years of American history.
There's dozens of cases from the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 and the Mexican American war. The execution of the San Patricios battalion was NOT a civil rights crisis for the Union.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 20, 2015 01:43 PM (8rRE+)
The notion that a judge needs to sign off on previously authorized military action just because the combatant is an American traitor is kooky, unAmerican, and a violation of two hundred years of American history.
There's dozens of cases from the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 and the Mexican American war. The execution of the San Patricios battalion was NOT a civil rights crisis for the Union.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 20, 2015 01:43 PM (8rRE+)
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