The Banning Nation: Democrats Target Online Ammunition Sales

House Democrats are pushing legislation requiring face-to-face ammunition sales.
Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.) has introduced the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2015. The bill unveiled Tuesday would require federally licensed ammunitions dealers to confirm the identity of individuals who arrange to purchase ammunition over the Internet by verifying a photo ID in-person.
The bill would also require ammunition vendors to report any sales of more than 1,000 rounds within five consecutive days to the U.S. attorney general if the person purchasing ammunition is not a licensed dealer.
"Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of unspeakable gun violence that could have been prevented," Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.), one of the bill's original cosponsors, said in a joint statement. "Our bill to limit the online sale of ammunition is a long-overdue common sense reform that I am hopeful will spark Congress to put aside party difference and come together to help prevent such senseless tragedies."

I don't know which unspeakable gun crime he is citing which would have been prevented by this law.

But I guess that's besides the point. They never even bother to make any kind of logical nexus between the law they're proposing and the outcome they're seeking. It seems enough to them that this is vaguely "anti-gun" and criminals, I guess, are "pro-gun," so even though this would not prevent any of the mass shootings we've seen in the past few years, it's... I don't know.

A religious devotion? An offering to the God of Government?

The Democrats' proposed laws increasingly look like prayers in legislative language.

Posted by: Ace at 05:25 PM

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1 Will The Turtle cave?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (QyBQv)

2 Its all about control while thinly disguised as 'doing good.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (21T44)

3 Funny how they want to limit straight up, well written amendments to the constitution, but can find all sorts of freedoms (abortion anyone) that are not written.

F*ck them

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:27 PM (QyBQv)

4 Ace, you simply don't understand. It's just "common sense."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (Zu3d9)

5 The Lord is offended by the Demon Ammo. We must appease him, lest Satan sell us the ballistic projectiles of sin through the intertubes of temptation.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (ElEyp)

6 So what will they propose happen to people who have already bought more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition. Oh right that whole pesky 'ex post facto' except I would not put it past these Jihadis of Control to try and ignore that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (21T44)

7 so, two bricks of .22lr gets me reported to the DOJ

Posted by: wizardpc at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (y50Fv)

8 They never quit trying to ban guns. They aren't embarrassed to take little bites knowing they can't have it all at once. But they will have it.

Posted by: just saying at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (wkuqO)

9 Ace, you know they know that we know there's no connection between Sandy Hook and online ammo. It's Pantomime on the Potomac.

Posted by: Kate58 at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (oLZsm)

10 Then they will move on to ammunition components, so that reloaders can't produce more than 1,000 rounds at a time. Then they will regulate the purchase of lead......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (Zu3d9)

11 So, those bayonet thingies will have some purpose after all. :/

Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (GgxVX)

12 Ban All The Things!!

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

13 I think legislation that would ban meeting New Jersey congressmen face to face would get more votes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (i55o+)

14 CBD you forgot the memo from the EPA on how lead ammo endangers the California Condor. Yeah talk about tissue paper thin justifications...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (21T44)

15 Common nonsense.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (W5DcG)

16 whenever dems and progs talk about "a long-overdue common sense reform" you know they're up to no good.

Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (qSIlh)

17 I thought the gubmint was buying up all the ammo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (FsuaD)

18 **hic**

Not a hill to die on.

**hic**

Posted by: Agent Orange at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (dPSXC)

19 1000 rounds within 5 days means that pretty much everyone who buys ammo will be reported.

Of course, I'm sure they'll also report you if you buy 600 rounds one week and 400 rounds the next, just like with the idiotic bank deposit laws.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (MYCIw)

20 so, two bricks of .22lr gets me reported to the DOJ

Damn, I can't even find any .22lr.

Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (GgxVX)

21 >>more than 1,000 rounds

That's pretty much nothing.

Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (lIU4e)

22 Uncommon nonsense

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (21T44)

23 Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of unspeakable government violence that could have been prevented. My bill to ban progressives from public office is a long-overdue common sense reform that I am hopeful will spark Congress to put aside party difference and come together to help prevent such senseless tragedies.

Posted by: Rep. Ludwig the Indestructible at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (wjzWP)

24 14 CBD you forgot the memo from the EPA on how lead ammo endangers the California Condor. Yeah talk about tissue paper thin justifications...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (21T44

My simple guess is that windmills and solar farms pose a greater threat. But thats just me bitter little clinger that I am.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (QyBQv)

25 10 Then they will move on to ammunition components, so that reloaders can't produce more than 1,000 rounds at a time. Then they will regulate the purchase of lead......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (Zu3d9)

They have regulated lead in bullets here in CA. Not all of CA but a huge chunk of it. This under the guise of the Condor.

Guns in the citizens hands are as essential to freedom as cars are to transportation. If they really wanted to save lives.....

Posted by: just saying at May 18, 2015 05:31 PM (wkuqO)

26 "Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of unspeakable gun violence that could have been prevented,"

I wonder how much time this worthless fuck thinks those other fucks up in Chicago are spending at the range with their legally-obtained licensed weapons.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (ZKzrr)

27 But I guess that's besides the point. They never even bother to make any kind of logical nexus between the law they're proposing and the outcome they're seeking.

Nor do they ever even stop to think that there might, just might, be some set of rules that they have to abide by, some set of master laws that they have to honor.

Or that there should be a limit to what they can do.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (0HooB)

28 Who knew that "shall not be infringed" would ever be as difficult to define as 'is' is?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (BZAd3)

29 For too often we have seen images of federal agents in the dark of night storming into sleeping houses to terrorize citizens of this country to wrench little children out of their beds. It simply must stop.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (21T44)

30 And yet they insist that no one needs a photo ID to vote.

Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (1V9qu)

31 Ginsu Knife infomercials now banned as well.

"Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of knives flying through the air, thrown by Shaolin Monks, and impaling the ninjas or opium dealers or whatever it is they have in Kung Fu movies," said Democratic Lawmaker.

"It is to prevent such violence that on-air Ginsu Knife purchases must now be banned, and also require photo ID too."

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (jBuUi)

32 Did you see what happened this weekend? Ban motorcycles.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (W5DcG)

33 They are too stupid or evil to see when this is leading to. These very same people will one day beg us to free them from slavery and defend their wives and children

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (go5uR)

34 Goddamn fucking fascist assholes.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (2Ojst)

35 30
And yet they insist that no one needs a photo ID to vote.

Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2015 05:32 PM (1V9qu)

*awards the internet to Mike*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (FsuaD)

36 Transfat ban is coming for your donuts.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (ZPrif)

37 After pointing out the futility of gun control (how many million guns sold in the U.S. since, say, 1930 that would still be functional today?) to some Porgressive friends over drinks the other night, they all immediately popped up with the idea of limiting ammunition sales as a solution. When I suggested that 47 percent of homocides are committed by an identifiable group of roughly 6 percent of the population, and a focus on law enforcement for that group might be effective in reducing gun crime they stopped talking to me.

Posted by: Lokki at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (a5F9g)

38 from the people for the American way website:

"Today's announcement is a major step forward in the movement to restore government to the people," said Marge Baker, Executive Vice President at People For the American Way. "Americans are fed up with elections being auctioned to the highest bidder and they've offered broad support for amending the Constitution to restore the ability to set common-sense limits on the influence of powerful corporations and the ultra-wealthy in our democracy. Elections should be decided by the power of individuals' votes, not the size of their wallets."

Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (qSIlh)

39 "It is to prevent such violence that on-air Ginsu Knife purchases must now be banned, and also require photo ID too."
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (jBuUi)

We applaud this long-overdue proposal.

Posted by: Soup cans and tomatoes everywhere at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (2Ojst)

40 So buying 999 rounds every 6 days is legit?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (i55o+)

41 Ban All The Things!!

And Those Things in Particular!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (0HooB)

42 reason @reason 5h
The FDA's dumb war on donuts and microwave popcorn. http://bit.ly/1FtOEfh

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (ZPrif)

43 "could have been prevented"

When one's government is one's god, one tends to say things like that.

Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (XWo4d)

44 Where's Davy Crockett when you need him?

Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (48QDY)

45 And ammo sales will surge again in the next few days.

Damn it.
I need another ammo safe already.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (VPLuQ)

46 40 So buying 999 rounds every 6 days is legit?
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (i55o+)

That will be criminalized as "structuring," like bank deposits.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (2Ojst)

47 41
Ban All The Things!!

And Those Things in Particular!!

And those things over there!------->

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (FsuaD)

48 don't forget the idea that the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean the government can't limit to you to "smart" guns.

Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (qSIlh)

49 Davy Crockett the man? Or Davy Crockett the mini-nuke?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (21T44)

50 This particular ammo ban has no hope of passing.

For the next 2 years the bans will come from exec agencies like the FDA.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (ZPrif)

51 "Ban motorcycles"

Oh, the liberals are all yelling from the rooftops that it's racist that the motorcycle gangs aren't being called thugs.

Despite the fact that they are being called thugs. And rednecks. And methheads.

But, you now, whatever.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (MYCIw)

52 They are too stupid or evil to see when this is leading to. These very same people will one day beg us to free them from slavery and defend their wives and children
Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (go5uR)

They won't beg. They'll reinstate the draft and demand.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (W5DcG)

53 40 So buying 999 rounds every 6 days is legit?
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (i55o+)

We would consider that bundling.

Posted by: The FBI, ATF et al. at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (48QDY)

54 Screw that shit. They can go to hell.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (xWW96)

55 Gun legislation is like a freaking merry-go-round. Every gun grabber wants to take their chance at nabbing the gold ring. If they don't succeed this time around, they will keep on trying. Even when the legislature gets turned over, there's always a new bunch of kids in line, clamoring for their turn...

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (NeFrd)

56 These very same people will one day beg us to free them from slavery and defend their wives and children

And I'll whisper...no.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (2Ojst)

57 Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (2Ojst)

Dammit. Not only late but the wrong term as well.

Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (48QDY)

58 Leftards wouldn't know common sense it it bit their useless heads off.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (xWW96)

59 51
"Ban motorcycles"

Oh, the liberals are all yelling from the rooftops that it's racist that the motorcycle gangs aren't being called thugs.

Despite the fact that they are being called thugs. And rednecks. And methheads.

MSNBC actually reported that one of the gangs is Hispanic. *faints*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (FsuaD)

60 So America, what's it going to be? Freedom and the liberty to live as you wish, or life as a serf?

Posted by: MTF, this is my sad face at May 18, 2015 05:37 PM (FCsIb)

61 I don't feel comfortable if my supply drops below the five figure level.

And I'd vastly prefer to build it up into the low six figure range.

There is no such thing as "too much".

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 18, 2015 05:37 PM (RzZOc)

62 What's the chance of this getting through congress?

Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 05:37 PM (/HX7u)

63
53 40 So buying 999 rounds every 6 days is legit?
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (i55o+)

We would consider that bundling.

Posted by: The FBI, ATF et al. at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (48QDY)
============================

Structuring?

Posted by: MTF, this is my sad face at May 18, 2015 05:38 PM (FCsIb)

64 Will they let us give what we already bought back?

I wouldn't want to lose any money that I might be sending to the GOPe

Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:38 PM (FIvdS)

65 Remember: The first thing to be in demand when ammo sales get restricted is the primer.

Posted by: The Gun Hat at May 18, 2015 05:38 PM (7YlUk)

66 62

I don't think much of a chance.

Posted by: just saying at May 18, 2015 05:38 PM (wkuqO)

67 Constitution.

Do you speak it, muthafucker?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:38 PM (0HooB)

68 Meanwhile Yahoo asks "Can anything stop IS in Iraq?"

Hmm. Perhaps all of the ammo that the gov is hording could be put to good use?

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (MYCIw)

69
Nice phrase, ace (prayers in legislative language).

Yep, Anna, I'm not a hunter, but the ban on lead ammo in certain areas takes effect in July in CA. Ridiculous, in the everyday way. No scientific basis whatever for such a ban. But hey, we can throttle/cripple/rip off an entire economy with utter nonsense like "climate change", so what's a little thing like this?

Oh - and the idiot Schwarzenegger actually signed a similar bill in CA a few years ago. Fortunately a state judge struck it down - but on technical reasons (vagueness), not because it was unconstitutional, stupid, and inexcusable harassment of the citizenry by the govt.

I fear the idiotic, alien CA legislature will try this again, and not sure Brown will veto it (probably depends on his handicapping of its court chances). Simply amazing.

As a reloader, I also assume that the even *more* ridiculous idea of restricting/banning reloading component sales will be pushed by Sacramento - I mean, y'all know examples of your own life where reloaded ammo was used by gangs and career criminals, and nutcase mass shooters, right? So I have a small "reserve" of both loaded ammo and components (part of the latter is hedging against component shortages due to panicsdue to likely idiotic govt. harassment due to mass shooting event - the handgun powder shortage has lessened, but persists today, more than 2 years since the CT thing ..... amazing).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (afQnV)

70 Wish lists.

They keep asking for the same stuff and sometimes they get lucky. Like with Obamacare.

Luckily, I don't think this one will pass.

However it gives the state idiots ideas and that is more problematic.

Once they can define nationally who can buy what ammo and when, they'll go from there to an id card, to yearly reporting form of personal inventory and/or usage when and where.

For the chilluns.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (zRby/)

71 Saw this the other day. One of these geniuses cited the Aurora shooter as an example. It seems he bought some ammo online at some point.
Notice that all the sponsors and co-sponsors are from NJ?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (NHtMs)

72 Soon those lawmakers from New Jersey will want to ban Japanese Maid Cafe ladies from shooting sniper rifles

https://youtu.be/CHgv8xoIHM8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (21T44)

73
re: colonoscopy

Never gonna happen with me.
Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (O9S73)

74 Bearing in mind these are morons who have no clue how astonishingly simple it is to make your own ammo at home...

Posted by: SGTYork at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (/yNLK)

75 >>>Gun legislation is like a freaking merry-go-round.
Every gun grabber wants to take their chance at nabbing the gold ring.
If they don't succeed this time around, they will keep on trying. Even
when the legislature gets turned over, there's always a new bunch of
kids in line, clamoring for their turn...

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (NeFrd)<<<

Roe v. Wade --> pulled out of someone's ass = settled law

2nd Amendment --> simply written, easy to understand = not so much

Posted by: emanations and penumbras at May 18, 2015 05:40 PM (dPSXC)

76 32: Harleys in particular. Didn't see no Goldwings in that lot.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:40 PM (ucDmr)

77 From ATF's website:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/license-required-engage-business-selling-small-arms-ammunition

Is a license required to engage in the business of selling small arms ammunition?

No. A license is not required for a dealer in ammunition only, but a manufacturer or an importer of ammunition must be licensed.

[18 U.S.C. 922 (a)(1)(B)]

Posted by: Steven Heim at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (JAMmd)

78 Hey about a damn trigger warning for new posts? I hate being willowed, hurts my self-esteem.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (g1DWB)

79 Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (MYCIw)

Yeah, they'll accuse you of structuring your ammo purchased.

But to all the gun people... I wouldn't focus on ATF or Congress too much here. the real alphabet agency to worry about is the EPA.

After all, lead ammo is dangerous to the environment. could give bambi lead poisoning.

I think THAT will be the approach.

Then, you know, they'll go after all other ammo for being "armor piercing".

Banning guns is too politically difficult, so they'll just ban ammo instead.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (AkOaV)

80 We don't need no stinking gold wings.

Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (XWo4d)

81 2nd Amendment --> simply written, easy to understand = not so much

A sad testament to the growing numbers of imbeciles that infest DC these days.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (0HooB)

82 Should I have put a trigger warning on that video link?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (21T44)

83 The NRA has it right on gun laws. Fight the ALL, tooth and nail.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (xWW96)

84
Guns don't kill people.

Bullets don't kill people.

People kill people.

Posted by: the other coyote at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (yK44T)

85 After all, lead ammo is dangerous to the environment. could give bambi lead poisoning.

I thought that was the whole point.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (ZKzrr)

86 Time to lay in a few more spam cans for the future.

May be ugly, but it stays shootable for decades.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:43 PM (VPLuQ)

87 Posted by: emanations and penumbras at May 18, 2015 05:40 PM (dPSXC)

Ah! Got you there! Does the 2nd amendment mention ammo? It sure has hell doesn't, does it?

but fine! If you're going to be a prick, we'll just ban modern ammo. You can still buy black powder and musket balls.

Posted by: Typical Liberal Dipshit at May 18, 2015 05:43 PM (AkOaV)

88 I think that what she is referring to is James Holmes, the Aurora Theater shooter. IIRC, he purchased all his ammo and firearms online.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:43 PM (9iR5/)

89 Bearing in mind these are morons who have no clue how astonishingly simple it is to make your own ammo at home...

Posted by: SGTYork

All you need is some coal, sulfur, potassium nitrate, diamonds, and hollow piece of bamboo reinforced with a vine.

Posted by: James T Kirk...Starship Enterprise at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (wjzWP)

90 looks like .22 ammo is gonna be hard to get for a while longer. These shitheads accomplish nothing save for making hoarders hoard.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (xWW96)

91 73
re: colonoscopy

Never gonna happen with me.
Fuck that shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (O9S73)

Me neither. Know two people personally whose "simple procedure" went horribly sideways.
As far as the ammo thing goes,apropos the actual thread topic, I will never talk about guns and ammo on a website. No mo.

Posted by: kraken at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (sdxPm)

92 Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (ZKzrr)

Heh.

You know what I mean though.

They'll trot out some scientist to tell us the science is settled and that lead does irreparable damage to the delicate eco system and that the biggest source of (whatever the emmanual goldstein environmental scare of the day is) is shooting ranges and their lead ammo.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (AkOaV)

93 Davy Crockett the man? Or Davy Crockett the mini-nuke?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:35 PM (21T44)

Yes.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (nL0sw)

94 But to all the gun people... I wouldn't focus on ATF or Congress too much here. the real alphabet agency to worry about is the EPA.

After all, lead ammo is dangerous to the environment. could give bambi lead poisoning.

Don't forget the DOT and potentially requiring exorbitant hazmat registration fees of carriers who ship powder and primers.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (2Ojst)

95 <<"Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of unspeakable gun
violence that could have been prevented," Rep. Frank Pallone>>

"This idiocy brought to you by - you guessed it! - Frank Pallone!" - Norm McDonald

Posted by: SGTYork at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (/yNLK)

96 House Bill #1297

Federal Ban of Fists and Other Menacing Hand Gestures Such As Karate Chops

"Whereas the curling and gathering together of the fingers into a tight ball, commonly known as the "fist" gesture, could only ever conceivably be committed for the purpose of striking, punching, hitting or other act of redneck violence;

And whereas similar triggering gestures such as the Karate Chop, Moe Eye-Poke and "Launch Fireball!" also serve no other purpose but to engage in violence, be it real, imaginary or humorous;

Let it therefore be enacted that the creation of any such gesture within the boundaries of the United States, its territories and possessions, be a Federal felony crime punishable by five years in prison, a $10,000 fine, or both."

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (jBuUi)

97 The number of rounds needed to commit the worst mass shooting in history is about as third of what you need for a nice day of practice at the range.

Posted by: Gridlock at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (yTZor)

98 You can't fucking buy firearms online. Must go through a dealer.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (xWW96)

99 Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (O9S73)

I assume you are joking.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (Zu3d9)

100 funny how many people think (the 2nd Amendment) that the "right of the people" really means 'the right of the state", ain't it?

Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (qSIlh)

101 88 I think that what she is referring to is James Holmes, the Aurora Theater shooter. IIRC, he purchased all his ammo and firearms online.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:43 PM (9iR5/)

Someone help me out here but I don't think modern firearms can be sold directly online. 1968 gun act. iirc.

Posted by: just saying at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (wkuqO)

102 "Ah! Got you there! Does the 2nd amendment mention ammo? It sure has hell doesn't, does it? "

Why, you're absolutely correct.

Looks like the First Amendment says nothing about amplifiers, radio waves, or modern print technologies.

Looks like it's back to the hand printing press and the town crier for you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (VPLuQ)

103 They have proposed targeting ammo before. Most of their proposals do the same thing. Hamstring responsible owners who want to practice, while having zero effect on thugs who give a rats ass where stray bullets may wind up.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (dkExz)

104 All firearms must be delivered to a local FFL holder. There is ZERO online point to point sale of firearms.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (21T44)

105 Ban motorcycles-

*****

If you could only appreciate the scope of the menace to society you would be on board:

http://tinyurl.com/motorcyclemenace

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (NeFrd)

106 <<All you need is some coal, sulfur, potassium nitrate, diamonds, and hollow piece of bamboo reinforced with a vine.>>

That's actually the recipe for Gorn on the cob.

Posted by: SGTYork at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (/yNLK)

107 Guns don't kill people.

Bullets don't kill people.

Holes kill people.

Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (XWo4d)

108 900 rounds bought face to face is much more safe than 900 rounds bought online.

Next up, close the face-to-face ammo loophole, by requiring all ammo sales to be reported to the Attorney General.

Posted by: Lib-Logic at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (ecDRv)

109 Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:42 PM (xWW96)

WELL... unless they can get the phrase "...by an NRA certified instructor" inserted somewhere, then they suddenly find *some* flexibility in opposing gun laws.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (AkOaV)

110 98 You can't fucking buy firearms online. Must go through a dealer.
Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (xWW96)

Yes, and I'm sick and tired of this bullshit myth. The only way you don't have to go through a dealer is if you have a FFL or a C&R license yourself, with all the accompanying hoops you have to jump through.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (2Ojst)

111
They don't care about criminals, just look at what they think about prisons and prison sentencing. They don't want the main populace to be able to fight back so they can get to full block tyranny.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (ODxAs)

112 I think that what she is referring to is James Holmes, the Aurora Theater shooter. IIRC, he purchased all his ammo and firearms online.

So instead of just punishing the wrongdoer, they want to punish everyone.

How very postmodern.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (0HooB)

113 As I recall they've usually proposed stuff like taxing ammo to make it overly expensive to actually target shoot and be good at hitting just what you're aiming at.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (dkExz)

114 >> ...by verifying a photo ID in-person.

It's probably best that they don't know that in some states, you can just walk into the ammo store and buy as much ammo as you want with no ID. For cash, even. Not IL though, as you must have a thing known as a Firearms Owner's ID card in order to buy any ammo.

Yep, common sense sez no citizen should be able to do that. Anarchy might break out or something.

PS 42 shot in Chicago this last weekend.

PPS This website is awesome and shows Chicago shooting stats --

http://heyjackass.com

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (IeHJQ)

115 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (21T44)

I know. So does everyone who is not a LIV.

Doesn't matter. They'll keep talking about the gun show loop hole and the internet loop hole and whatever.

We all know what their goal is. They know, we know, they know we know.

It's all a game.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (AkOaV)

116 Democrat economic theory is a hybrid of Chicago Graft and Cargo Cult hope.

Democrat Civic Theory is a form of prayer reliant on miracles.

Democrats have more faith in government than the Apostles had in Jesus as God.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (/4AZU)

117 I would be willing to give up all of the weapons (that weren't lost in the boating accident off the coast of Bermuda), hardware first. IF I had any..

Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:48 PM (FIvdS)

118 Bet all them Harleys had legit tiles and registrations and shit. Also, I'm sure these nice young men all had registered firearms.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:48 PM (ucDmr)

119
Will The Turtle cave?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Never! The GOP stands firm in defense of your constitutionally guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights.

Unless another congressman gets shot or something. Then it's greased skids and hand holding across the aisle, just like last time.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr2283/text

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 18, 2015 05:48 PM (kdS6q)

120 IIRC, didn't the EPA just shut down the last smelter in the US that smelts lead for ammo? Something about air pollution.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (9iR5/)

121 #10: Of course. Don't you remember the EPA shutting down America's last lead smelter a couple of years ago?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (GWIIN)

122 So if they have to report sales of greater than 1000 rounds in 5 days, will someone show up at my door if I do just under that in 5 days, or buy 1000 rounds in 6 days? Will that be seen as skirting the law, a la cash transactions of greater than $10,000?

I shoot competition. Granted, I reload a lot, but a 3,000 round purchase is not unusual.

These people can go F themselves.

Posted by: SARDIver at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (DzJBg)

123 114 Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (IeHJQ)

and civic justice would dictate that in a sane republic people "burdened by showing ID to get ammo" would tar and feather politicians claiming an ID to vote is totalitarian...

we do not live in a sane republic.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (/4AZU)

124 "So instead of just punishing the wrongdoer, they want to punish everyone"

Well, it's all society's fault soo.../lib

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (MYCIw)

125 Soon those lawmakers from New Jersey will want to ban Japanese Maid Cafe ladies from shooting sniper rifles

https://youtu.be/CHgv8xoIHM8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (21T44)

Taking away gun-toting meido?

That's going too far...

Posted by: 銃帽子 at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (7YlUk)

126 That Bonnie twat is a NJ historic first-because black.

Rush Holt (of the "My Congressman Is A Rocket Scientist" bumper stickers, OvomitCare SJW) "retired"; Bonnie swept in.

Because historic first. She's a dimbulb.

Posted by: Dhimmi 79772 at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (BxiNw)

127 122 Posted by: SARDIver at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (DzJBg)

You're gonna LOVE what they dream of doing for reloaders.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (/4AZU)

128 Lanza only got off 154 rounds at Sandy Hook. What would this law prevent, again?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (vgIRn)

129 Jinx, Old Blue! I guess I owe you a Coke. Or a beer. I passed your contact info on to Mindy for planning the next meet-up, by the way. Looking forward to meeting you there!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (GWIIN)

130 121 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (GWIIN)

There's a boom business coming in "battery bio-remediation" and small scale smelting I believe.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (/4AZU)

131 a 3,000 round purchase is not unusual.

-
Neither is a trip to the pokey.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (XUKZU)

132 Posted by: Gridlock at May 18, 2015 05:45 PM (yTZor)

That cowardly little cocksucker in Norway is the worst one I can think of.....

75?

But the worst mass killings were by fire.....so regulate gasoline.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (Zu3d9)

133 Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (2Ojst)

Yeah. They'll just use the regulatory state to ban guns.

It's what they do for everything else. "Congress won't act! Time to get the bureaucrats to do it." and the media and LIVs say "oh, well, okay.. that makes sense.... HEY! Did you see Kim Kardashians new naked photo shoot?!?!"

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (AkOaV)

134 128 Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (vgIRn)

My taking my wife to the range post-deployment and letting her pop off 300-500 rounds at a sitting.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (/4AZU)

135 Unchaperoned ammunition leads young people into a downward spiral of pregnancy, vagrancy, and truancy.

Posted by: derit at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (jT+gh)

136 Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (9iR5/)

Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (GWIIN)

This is like the 3rd time of seen this happen today. Two almost identical comments posted one right after the other.

It's like I'm seeing a glitch in the Matrix.m

Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (g1DWB)

137
Online sales of C ampersand R (curio and relic, generally 50+ years old, not automatic or "destructive device" category) firearms can still be seller-to-your-door, depending on state. With a federal FFL-03 license, in most states, you can get C and R rifles delivered right to you (thus the nickname for the UPS truck, the "brown truck of happiness").

I did that quite a few times. Wonderful. Like a kid at Christmas. One driver even got into it after I explained to him and I would quickly open the box while he was still here to check out the rifle. He started buying them too.

Now .... in CA ... your C and R license must be supplemented by another, state-issued document that's three times as expensive and lasts one-third the time (one year). Of course completely idiotic - just more fingerprints and background checks to repeat all the others. But - then - you can still get the older rifles directly. I'm "done" with my rifle buys for the moment anyway, so it doesn't directly affect me.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (afQnV)

138 Holy merde

-guys can you go on about the colonoscopy stuff?

What the heck...

Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (RJMhd)

139 They don't have the votes to pass anything like this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (rDqRv)

140 128 Lanza only got off 154 rounds at Sandy Hook. What would this law prevent, again?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (vgIRn)

Law abiding citizens from fully exercising their 2nd Amendment rights...

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (2Ojst)

141 "The bill unveiled Tuesday would require federally licensed ammunitions dealers to confirm the identity of individuals who arrange to purchase ammunition over the Internet by verifying a photo ID in-person."

That is so racist. I thought we already established that requiring an ID discriminates against the poor and the elderly, who are all minorities by definition.

Posted by: brgerbilder at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (+jijM)

142 By the time o leaves office Texas will have filed 10,000 lawsuits against him and the EPA. Ken Paxton is following in the Abbott tradition.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (6wijS)

143 104 All firearms must be delivered to a local FFL holder. There is ZERO online point to point sale of firearms.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:46 PM (21T44)

I can think of one exception to this rule. And it is very narrow indeed.

Posted by: Jollyroger at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (t06LC)

144 "So instead of just punishing the wrongdoer, they want to punish everyone"

-
I'm sure there are some guilty ones in there somewhere.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (XUKZU)

145 So instead of just punishing the wrongdoer, they want to punish everyone.

How very postmodern.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy

Meth heads are why I have to show my driver's license when buying Sudafed. Total bullshit.

Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (XWo4d)

146 Fires by gasoline? Talking the 1943? Ringling Brothers fire. Due to the war they had waterproofed the canvas with gasoline.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (21T44)

147 "a C&R license yourself, with all the accompanying hoops you have to jump through."

Actually, the C&R application is almost deceptively easy.
Fill out the pdf online, print it out.
Mail it in with a check for $30.00.
In about three weeks you can have certain qualifying items delivered directly to your door by Big Brown.

Of course, part of the process is mailing a copy of the application to your local Chief of Police for their information, so now you're on their radar.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (VPLuQ)

148 #125: That is indeed too far, Hat and Anna! When gun-toting meidos are outlawed, only outlaws will be able to appreciate gun-toting meidos.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (GWIIN)

149 HEY! Did you see Kim Kardashians new naked photo shoot?!?!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:51 PM (AkOaV)

Speaking of hazardous materials...

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (2Ojst)

150 Posted by: SARDIver at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (DzJBg)

Yes. If they pass this law, they will go after people for "structuring" purchases to avoid complying with the law.

Like they do with the financial reporting stuff.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (AkOaV)

151 ...by verifying a photo ID in-person.

RAYCISS!

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (ZKzrr)

152 139 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (rDqRv)

They don't have the votes to try to undo the electrical and industrial revolutions either NGU is that stopping them?

They don't have the votes to take over the internet either...

they use EVERY civil service resource available to advance the agenda sir, THAT is where the antipathy to the hall of mirrors comes from BTW.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (/4AZU)

153
Not one, not one of these well known shooters got even close to shooting 1000 rounds. That number is what they are using for a starter, then they will try to ratchet it down. Rule no. 1 of the leftist playbook, get your hooks in and then start ripping.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (ODxAs)

154 Think about THIS though: to enforce this law, the fed gov will need a comprehensive list of everyone who buys ammo and in what quantities.

That's their real goal.

I can't think of a better way to get a national gun owner database than to have a national ammo database (for the children!!).

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (AkOaV)

155 " They don't have the votes to pass anything like this"

Who needs votes when you have the alphabet soup of government agencies to make up whatever regulation you feel like?

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 05:54 PM (MYCIw)

156 Hey TPH have those wacky people in Nippon written a Combat-Meido anime yet? Not talking Gunslinger Girls.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 05:54 PM (21T44)

157 Dang, when that little Japanese girl fired that Barrett I could tell it hurt. She is hot though.

Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 05:55 PM (xWW96)

158 147 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (VPLuQ)

The problem I have with a C and R on post is it allows federal LE to "check your compliance" at random...

life's too short to have to explain that the Ithaca 37 you bought was advertised as C+R and was delivered modified to 8 shots with pistol grip b/c "stocks were low."

I'll get involved when we retire.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:55 PM (/4AZU)

159 42 reason @reason 5h
The FDA's dumb war on donuts and microwave popcorn. http://bit.ly/1FtOEfh

Did you know you can just put corn kernels in a regular paper bag and make popcorn in the microwave?

Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 05:55 PM (KJjiv)

160
My facts may not be absolutely correct, but my heart is in the right place and I feel this should be accomplished to show the voters how much I care for their safety and why they should remember my name.

Posted by: Frank Pallone, D-NJ at May 18, 2015 05:56 PM (P330y)

161 139 They don't have the votes to pass anything like this
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (rDqRv)

Do they need the votes?

Just have the ATF declare all ammo sellers must be licensed by the ATF.

Then have them declare that in order to get and maintain a license, they must report all ammo sales to them.

Then have them declare that anyone buying over x number of rounds must be reported and logged by the ATF.

Who would stop them? Pen and a phone, remember?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:56 PM (AkOaV)

162 They'll have to rely on the election of Hillary or another Democrat to the WH to tip the balance of SCOTUS in regards to the Second Amendment.

But I honestly wonder if Jeb Bush wouldn't appoint the same kind of anti-Second Amendment judges.

Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2015 05:57 PM (1V9qu)

163 OK, don't shoot the messenger here. Holmes was reported by local news as buying his firearms online. Also his ammo, his tactical gear, and probably his booby trap supplies. This is what those NJ pukes believe. They want everyone to believe the narrative so that they can get support for their bill.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:57 PM (9iR5/)

164 142 By the time o leaves office Texas will have filed 10,000 lawsuits against him and the EPA. Ken Paxton is following in the Abbott tradition.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2015

Excuse me if I don't get all choked up or excited

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 18, 2015 05:57 PM (mEQNW)

165 Representative from N.J. tells our reporter that if this legislation fails she plans to introduce legislation requiring amputation of right index finger or the equivalent of all gun owners.

"...if we can't keep 'em from owning guns and we can't keep 'em from buying ammo, we can sure as heck keep 'em from pulling the trigger. This is common sense..."

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 05:58 PM (NeFrd)

166 Yep another nut from New Jersey. They cant seem to help themselves.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 18, 2015 05:58 PM (iONHu)

167 And I don't believe the 2nd Amendment has one word about fingers.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 05:58 PM (NeFrd)

168
So, when do our special AoShq biker vests with inside gun pockets arrive?

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 05:58 PM (iQIUe)

169 >>>Not one, not one of these well known shooters got
even close to shooting 1000 rounds. That number is what they are using
for a starter, then they will try to ratchet it down. Rule no. 1 of the
leftist playbook, get your hooks in and then start ripping.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 05:53 PM (ODxAs)<<<

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink... say no more.

Posted by: Cass Sunstein at May 18, 2015 05:59 PM (dPSXC)

170 Meth heads are why I have to show my driver's license when buying Sudafed. Total bullshit.

I got held after skool one day for something someone else in class did.

Did that ever wake me up. I said to myself, "Self, there is no fucking way I'm ever letting that happen to me again."

I was perfectly capable of getting myownself in trouble back then.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:59 PM (0HooB)

171 145 >> Meth heads are why I have to show my driver's license when buying Sudafed. Total bullshit.

Can't buy it at all in MS without a scrip. Sigh. Ah well, at least ammo is okay.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 05:59 PM (IeHJQ)

172 165 Representative from N.J. tells our reporter that if this legislation fails she plans to introduce legislation requiring amputation of right index finger or the equivalent of all gun owners.

"...if we can't keep 'em from owning guns and we can't keep 'em from buying ammo, we can sure as heck keep 'em from pulling the trigger. This is common sense..."
Posted by: Muldoon

I will use my middle,finger

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 18, 2015 06:00 PM (mEQNW)

173
Should we list how many laws were violated and failed to prevent the Waco motorcycle gang shootout? Libs have way too much faith that humanity will abide by the laws they write. No concept of evil. Pathetic.

Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 06:00 PM (XWo4d)

174 "As I recall they've usually proposed stuff like taxing ammo to make it overly expensive to actually target shoot and be good at hitting just what you're aiming at."

And it's interesting how the LIV's think that all you need to do to stop a bad guy is to shoot him in the hand or foot, which is a helluva lot harder than hitting center mass and requires better accuracy.

Posted by: fly gal at May 18, 2015 06:00 PM (8TdcF)

175 roof Koreans hardest hit.

Posted by: Paladin at May 18, 2015 06:00 PM (DPvCq)

176 Can't buy it at all in MS without a scrip.

And if I forget to dump it out of my purse before driving across MS to get from AL to LA...I've transported it into the state without a scrip and that's a felony.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (ZKzrr)

177 156 Hey TPH have those wacky people in Nippon written a Combat-Meido anime yet? Not talking Gunslinger Girls.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD)

I just finished watching "From the new World," a new-ish anime about a future society in which humans have developed psychic powers. Part of the plot is that if any teenager developing his or her powers starts to use them to hurt other humans, then that kid is unceremoniously killed. Sort of like banning violence altogether.

Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (jBuUi)

178 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 05:57 PM (9iR5/)

Yes. He bought a tactical looking vest online. Also known as a piece of clothing.

He bought ammo online (I guess).

And he bought guns online, which were shipped to a local dealer and then he had to pay that dealer, pass a background check, and then pick up his guns.

What part of that would change with a law?

Holmes had not committed any crime at that point, had a clear criminal history, and there was no indication that hew as about to snap and shoot up a movie theater.

That's the part that always gets me. Just admit that you want to ban guns, stop being lying pricks. Background checks don't stop criminally insane people from doing criminally insane things.

They just don't.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (AkOaV)

179 PW, great minds think alike, and I would like a beer. Thanks for forwarding my stuff to Mindy.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (9iR5/)

180 I will use my middle,finger

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 18, 2015 06:00 PM (mEQNW)

*****

I'm sure that if you read the bill you will find that eventuality is also covered (X10)

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (NeFrd)

181
It's struck me for some time what a perfect microcosm of our civic and constitutional collapse is contained in the whole "gun control" area.

Wildly unconstitutional impositions on individual freedom premised on ridiculous rationales clearly unrelated to reality, clothed in revolting and ridiculous pretexts and language, peddled toa like-mindless press and a dumbed-down, ignorant, bigoted populace mostly free of what were historically American sensibilities and values.

It's all we see, never ends, getting worse, as the walls became speed bumps became green lights ("it's a tax").

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 06:02 PM (afQnV)

182 Palin wedding called off. So that should be worth a few news cycles. Or brain cells.

Posted by: NCKate at May 18, 2015 06:02 PM (tpaSF)

183 "life's too short to have to explain that the Ithaca 37 you bought was advertised as C+R and was delivered modified to 8 shots with pistol grip b/c "stocks were low.""

Technically, you may not have an issue.

Replacing furniture, as long as the original is retained is not considered a permanent modification, and is perfectly legal.

An audit of your paperwork can be conducted, but may be conducted at a location of your choosing, to include saying "Let me bring my bound book to IHOP, and you can read it there".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 06:02 PM (VPLuQ)

184 there was no indication that he was about to snap and shoot up a movie theater...

****

Well, aside from the notebook that he shared with his psychologist.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:03 PM (NeFrd)

185 it's... I don't know.

Control.

Posted by: wiserbud at May 18, 2015 06:04 PM (XlHZs)

186 Anna, you might look into The Sacred Blacksmith. The main character is a female paladin who dresses like a maid.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:04 PM (GWIIN)

187 We need uneakable laws. As long as laws can be broken, we will need more better laws.

Posted by: brgerbilder at May 18, 2015 06:04 PM (+jijM)

188 You are absolutely correct that these are nothing but prayers.

Also as soon as someone says "common sense reform" I immediately presume that person is full of shit. And is lying.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (IrByp)

189 Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:03 PM (NeFrd

I mean no indication that would show up in any kind of background check of any nature.

It's not like he had a bunch of recent convictions for stalking, harassment, brandishing a firearm, and just got out of a court ordered stay in a mental hospital.

On paper, he was clean.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (AkOaV)

190 I think Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham should get married...

if for nothing else to make John McCain jealous.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (BZAd3)

191 I'm sure that if you read the bill you will find that eventuality is also covered (X10)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid

Read the bill? Really? This is the AoS after all.,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (mEQNW)

192 http://heyjackass.com

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (IeHJQ)

haha! The shot-in-the-ass-o-meter.

Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (ecDRv)

193 183 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 06:02 PM (VPLuQ)

I am not in the mood to rely on the BATF(e) not willfully misreading the law.

The argument that they were pondering was that delivery of a "c and r" artifact in non C and R configuration nullified the C and R claim...

that hubaloo in the Clinton '90s shied me off the trail...

I regret it, I probably would have been quite the Finnish Nagant collector if I could have cut out the middle guy BUT getting them delivered on Fort Bliss would have been a royal pain in the ass given the Provost Marshall's bent.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:06 PM (/4AZU)

194 #179: My pleasure, Old Blue! And I will indeed buy you a beer.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:06 PM (GWIIN)

195 176 And if I forget to dump it out of my purse before driving across MS to get from AL to LA...I've transported it into the state without a scrip and that's a felony.

Yep HR, something like that actually has happened here. I never saw the outcome of that case.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 06:06 PM (IeHJQ)

196 Palin wedding called off. So that should be worth a few news cycles. Or brain cells.

Makes note to sell Bristol Meyers stock in morning.

Or buy.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (xQX/f)

197 "Far too many times, we have seen the shocking images of unspeakable gun violence..."

Yeah! Like Sandy Hook!

...Oh, wait. We only saw a picture of a half-dozen kids walking out of the school.

But, hey! That's photographic evidence to me that something dastardly occurred!

Posted by: RKae at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (kRGK/)

198 No wonder rdbrewer thought Louis CK was hilarious on SNL. He was bombed out of his mind on drugs from the colonoscopy.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (z/Ubi)

199 mynewhandle, I agree. Look at that Chinese guy that injured twenty seven in a knife attack a couple of years back. If a nutjob wants to go on a rampage, they'll go on a rampage with any weapon available to him.
Lanza killed his mom to get to her guns. His mom. Think about that. She was in the process to have him committed from what I remember hearing, but the system was against her.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (9iR5/)

200 A drunk driver speeds through an intersection, killing someone. ...

The Leftwing Nutjobs' reaction? Confiscate everyone Else's cars Immediately!!! Let No Innocent Person Escape!

BTW, a LOT more people die in car accidents in America annually than are killed in shooting incidents. The highest death toll of all, about double the heart attack rate, is abortions.

Posted by: Beverly at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (QlA1A)

201 #187: If ever there was a comment just crying out for a Neil DeGrasse Tyson sock, I think that was it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (GWIIN)

202 128
Lanza only got off 154 rounds at Sandy Hook. What would this law prevent, again?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 18, 2015 05:50 PM (vgIRn)

Freedom.

Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 06:08 PM (ecDRv)

203 Meth heads are why I have to show my driver's license when buying Sudafed. Total bullshit.
***
Yeah...I was asking why I had to show my id at the pharmacy the other day. The woman behind me said, "because people make meth from it and blow their houses up.". My response was "don't care, seems self correcting." Which didn't go over well.

Of course the government's verification system was down of course so I was blocked from buying a box of cold medicine. I asked the pharmacist whether, being obviously sick with a cold and the government's system being down if she really, really couldn't just sell me one box. She suggested I go to another pharmacy. This of course because it isn't like the STATE'S system is down.

Couldn't our ruling class at least be SERIOUS about their authoritarianism?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 06:08 PM (78TbK)

204 Massachusetts' Attorney Generals already did this non-legislatively under the guise of "consumer protection" regulations.

Want to bet Obama gets the Consumer Product Safety Commission to do the same?

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at May 18, 2015 06:09 PM (A1Dcl)

205 haha! The shot-in-the-ass-o-meter.

Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 06:05 PM (ecDRv)

Don't forget the shot-in-the-junk-o-meter.

Posted by: golfman at May 18, 2015 06:09 PM (48QDY)

206 It's "the right to keep and bear arms."

I don't know how they think this is some clever loophole. "We can't take their guns, so we'll take the bullets instead! Giggle, giggle!"

Bullets ARE arms. They're included in that right.

Posted by: RKae at May 18, 2015 06:09 PM (kRGK/)

207 re: colonoscopy

Never gonna happen with me.
Fuck that shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 05:39 PM (O9S73)

Me neither. Know two people personally whose "simple procedure" went horribly sideways...

Posted by: kraken at May 18, 2015 05:44 PM (sdxPm)

If the doctors are inserting the colonoscope sideways,

they're doing' it wrong.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2015 06:10 PM (0cMkb)

208 On paper, he was clean.

****

Yep. And therein lies the fallacy of the other side of the how to stop mass murder crowd. The 'science' of predicting human behavior. The courts acknowledge that psychiatrists are not actually very good at predicting which, if any, individuals will commit a violent act within a given short timeframe (e.g. within the next week). And yet the courts rely on 'expert testimony' from the same psychiatrists in determining whether someone is a risk to the community (i.e. detain or release).

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:10 PM (NeFrd)

209 145 So instead of just punishing the wrongdoer, they want to punish everyone.

How very postmodern.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy

Meth heads are why I have to show my driver's license when buying Sudafed. Total bullshit.
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:52 PM (XWo4d)

Totally. You can't get the blue color if you make it from sudafed.

Posted by: Walter White at May 18, 2015 06:10 PM (z/Ubi)

210 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:07 PM (9iR5/)

Uh yeah.

And the deadliest school "killing" was a bomb set off in a school back in the '30s (IIRC) by a disgruntled former member of the school board.

Built the bomb with components from a hardware store.

Go figure.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:11 PM (AkOaV)

211
Everybody get a look up rdbrewer's asshole? No art.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:11 PM (iQIUe)

212
Posted by: mynewhandle

BTW -- what was your old nick? It was a topic of conversation in the ONT last night.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 18, 2015 06:11 PM (kdS6q)

213 Everybody get a look up rdbrewer's asshole? No art.
Posted by: Bruce J.

You're no fun anymore.

Posted by: Art at May 18, 2015 06:12 PM (wjzWP)

214 So many people seem to forget that the government's job is not to prevent bad things from happening. Their job is to catch, prosecute, and execute justice on people who perpetrate bad things.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 06:12 PM (eGmvn)

215 BTW -- what was your old nick? It was a topic of conversation in the ONT last night.

I was gonna ax that, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 06:12 PM (0HooB)

216 They are too stupid or evil to see when this is leading to. These very same people will one day beg us to free them from slavery and defend their wives and children
Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 05:33 PM (go5uR)

No most of them in office see very well, they just operate under the assumption that they will be the slavers.

Posted by: Bete reading about the burning times at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (F9322)

217 How can you have a planned gunbattle in public and not expect serious repercussions even if you are not shot dead? Did they not think the law was going to come after them hard for murder and other crimes? Are bikers really this stupid?

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (iQIUe)

218 Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:10 PM (NeFrd)

I'm just saying -- you can't (shouldn't) lock up people based on the say so of some shrink. That's not due process. Liberals will agree with that.

And unless you're convicted of a crime, involuntarily institutionalized or there is a restraining order out against you, nothing will show up in a background check.

so, uh... someone square this circle for me?

Maybe we just have to accept that in a free (and even in not-so-free societies, too), there will be dangerous nuts. It's near impossible to predict WHO will be a dangerous nut and who is just a regular nut, and you know, sometimes dangerous nuts to horrible things.

Why does my life have to be wildly inconvenienced because a minuscule per centage of the population is made up of dangerous nuts?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (AkOaV)

219 "Built the bomb with components from a hardware store. "

Doesn't happen so much anymore but used to be you could get all manner of splodey and shooty things at the hardware store.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (LA7Cm)

220 If you eak the law, expect to pay the equences.

Posted by: LincolnTf at May 18, 2015 06:14 PM (2cS/G)

221 Are we talking about Mario Lanza? That guy was great singer. Especially when he sang Schubert's Ave Maria in front of Claudia Cardinale.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 18, 2015 06:14 PM (+jijM)

222 My ammo has Good Housekeepings seal of approval

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 18, 2015 06:14 PM (mEQNW)

223 No most of them in office see very well, they just operate under the assumption that they will be the slavers.
Posted by: Bete reading about the burning times at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (F9322)

Yet they fail to see the lampposts.

Posted by: golfman at May 18, 2015 06:14 PM (48QDY)

224
BTW -- what was your old nick? It was a topic of conversation in the ONT last night.

myoldhandle, obviously

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 06:14 PM (D0CMn)

225 Wait rd thought Louis CK was funny...

Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (RJMhd)

226 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 18, 2015 06:11 PM (kdS6q)

i've had a bunch at different sites over the years and never really settled on one.

I was being particularly boring when i came up with this one.

will probably have a new one at some point too.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (AkOaV)

227 Everybody get a look up rdbrewer's asshole? No art.

*****

Colin Tuben-Pupenstuffer, 1876, "Midnight at Fartenburg Castle"

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (NeFrd)

228 "Did they not think the law was going to come after them hard for murder and other crimes? Are bikers really this stupid?"

I don't think the shoot out part was planned.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (MYCIw)

229 Colin Tuben-Pupenstuffer, 1876, "Midnight at Fartenburg Castle"

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (NeFrd)

LOL

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (FsuaD)

230 "If you eak the law"

Or break it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (LA7Cm)

231 Although I lost all of my Firearms in that horrible Pontoon accident in '11, I still like to purchase ammo. It is none of their fucking business what I do with it. Period. Molon Labe Motherfuckers.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (fLKzW)

232 230 "If you eak the law"

Or break it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (LA7Cm)

Oh that eaky breaky law.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (2Ojst)

233 Beltway RINOs will line up behind this as a "compromise"

Posted by: Hobbiehawk at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (IPGju)

234
And now it's abnormal *not* to have your colon and prostate checked annually?

When did this suddenly happen?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (D0CMn)

235 "Midnight at Fartenburg Castle"

LOL

Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (RJMhd)

236 Although I lost all of my Firearms in that horrible Pontoon accident in '11, I still like to purchase ammo. It is none of their fucking business what I do with it. Period. Molon Labe Motherfuckers.....

Gifts for friends who shoot. Because giver.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (0HooB)

237 217 Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (iQIUe)

My favorite bit goes like this...

@Sally Kohn-You fuckin g wingnuts won't call the bikers thugs"

@Sven10077- Hey Salvatore they're thugs.

@Sally Kohn-racist

anyway Waco didn't burn down CVS to celebrate, or show Sonograms and break out "Cueball was just turning his life around..."

book 'em and store 'em and hope next time they kill more of each other.

9 mutants died with no human casualties....

"a good day"

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (/4AZU)

238 Of course the government's verification system was down of course so I was blocked from buying a box of cold medicine.

High fructose corn syrup; you take a shitload of corn syrup, condense it down, then addict people. Legal. Coca leaves; you take a shitload of coca leaves, condense it down, then addict people. Not legal. Sudafed; you can't buy shit. But if you could there's no doubt you would buy a shitload of it, condense it down, then make crystal meth and addict people.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (xQX/f)

239 233 Beltway RINOs will line up behind this as a "compromise"
Posted by: Hobbiehawk at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (IPGju)

We'll just blow our noses in the Constitution instead of wipe our asses with it.

Posted by: GOPe at May 18, 2015 06:18 PM (2Ojst)

240 Oh that eaky breaky law.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 06:16 PM (2Ojst)

Heh. Somewhere there is a vid of D'oh Boy as a toddler singing "Don't bake my heart. My achy-baky heart. I just might kill a man."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 06:18 PM (FsuaD)

241 Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 06:17 PM (D0CMn)

Around the same time it became "abnormal" to oppose gay marriage.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 06:18 PM (nL0sw)

242
I was being particularly boring when i came up with this one. will probably have a new one at some point too.
Posted by: mynewhandle

Just came up because you topped the posts per day last week and we couldn't figure out who you were.

Some people were saying you were Moo Moo. Not me, I stood up for you, but some people.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (kdS6q)

243 So many people seem to forget that the government's job is not to
prevent bad things from happening. Their job is to catch, prosecute, and
execute justice on people who perpetrate bad things.>>>

And another thing the govt is not in the business of is creating jobs. But they keep telling us it is while they destroy job creation.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (aVYsC)

244 "If you eak the law"

That sounds kind of Shakespearean!

Might want to change it to "If thou dost eak the law."

Posted by: RKae at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (kRGK/)

245 Heh. Somewhere there is a vid of D'oh Boy as a toddler singing "Don't bake my heart. My achy-baky heart. I just might kill a man."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 06:18 PM (FsuaD)

Awwww, too cute. When you find it, put it on YouTube and send us the link, would you?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (2Ojst)

246 Heh. Somewhere there is a vid of D'oh Boy as a toddler singing "Don't bake my heart. My achy-baky heart. I just might kill a man."

Otherwise known as Mom's Retirement Plan.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (0HooB)

247 Are bikers really this stupid?
--------
Why, yes. Yes they are.
Have you seen all the SJW's and POC's going on about "they call out the NG in Ferguson and Baltimore" but they show the cops sitting with the bikers.
Well, idjit, they weren't burning and looting stores. They were bikers acting out on each other. They were organized criminal gangs fighting over turf and real or imagined slights about their mothers.
The Baltimore/Ferguson thugs were George Soros financed anarchists.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (9iR5/)

248 228 Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:15 PM (MYCIw)

They were "having a summit" and I swear to God all hell broke loose in the bathroom...

which is a fitting epithet on the human race IMHO.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (/4AZU)

249 Otherwise known as Mom's Retirement Plan.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (0HooB)

*lightbulb*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 06:20 PM (FsuaD)

250 I'm of the opinion that Louis CK is sometimes funny, and sometimes just sort of creepy.

It's when he manages to be both funny and creepy that he's really at his best. He really shines as a comedian when he makes you feel a little guilty for laughing.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:20 PM (GWIIN)

251 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 18, 2015 06:19 PM (kdS6q)

Oh. Well I appreciate it.

Topped the posts per day? Yikes. Spending way too much time on here and not enough time working, apparently.

And no, for the record, I am not Moo Moo.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:21 PM (AkOaV)

252 OK reloaders, it's time to make the dinner.

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 06:21 PM (0HooB)

253
Speaking of which...

did you hear this??

The Left is really really upset over the death penalty in Tsaernev case. I don't know who said it but I heard a soundbite on the radio of someone saying the death penalty will go the way of opposition to homosexual marriage.

He also said he couldn't understand how conservatives want govt out of healthcare but want govt involved in ending a life. Typical dumb wrong and immature leftist claptrap.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 06:21 PM (D0CMn)

254 Someone remind me again what justification DC has for its existence?

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2015 06:22 PM (ZbV+0)

255 I'd like to see a law that imposes capital punishment on legislators who vote in favor of laws that violate the bill of rights.

Posted by: other stuff Jesus said at May 18, 2015 06:22 PM (n5fTN)

256 So they want to leave you defenseless depending on the Police they believe are crazy shoot happy killerz themselves .

and they want to militarize the police while saying they are not trustworthy at their jobs.

and people should be afforded a Just-ice society.

everything makes sense now.

not.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:22 PM (nqBYe)

257 @247 - The Waco vs Baltimore thing can be answered quite simply:

The rioters in Balto knew, despite all the cops' gear, that none of 'em were going to shoot.

The bikers in Texas knew, despite the cops' relative lack of gear, that they damn well would.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (sometimes JEM) at May 18, 2015 06:23 PM (o+SC1)

258 "Someone remind me again what justification DC has for its existence?"

Accumulating wealth and power.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 06:23 PM (LA7Cm)

259 The Comedians is pretty good on FX.

It's Billy Crystal and Olaf. Seems to be hitting it's stride.

Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 06:23 PM (RJMhd)

260 #256: That's a pretty accurate wrap-up, Willow.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:24 PM (GWIIN)

261 He also said he couldn't understand how conservatives want govt out of healthcare but want govt involved in ending a life. Typical dumb wrong and immature leftist claptrap.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 06:21 PM (D0CMn)

they want govt Involved in Health Care and involved in ending Millions of babies lives..
i guess that makes sense

kill the innocent .
save the murderous

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:24 PM (nqBYe)

262 Yeah, about that whole police defending you thingy. The Supreme Court has ruled that they do not have the obligation to protect you. They are only obligated to investigate the crime scene.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:24 PM (9iR5/)

263 The bikers in Texas knew, despite the cops' relative lack of gear, that they damn well would.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (sometimes JEM)

Hindsight, always 20/20.

Posted by: 2 jihadis, burning in hell at May 18, 2015 06:24 PM (wjzWP)

264 I want to thank Presdent Obama for taking up this issue/problen that was xcreated by Bush and Cheney. Thank You Sir and we love you !!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 18, 2015 06:25 PM (lNSdJ)

265
I voted no on looking up RD's or anybody elses' butt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 06:25 PM (ODxAs)

266 255 I'd like to see a law that imposes capital punishment on legislators who vote in favor of laws that violate the bill of rights.

Posted by: other stuff Jesus said at May 18, 2015 06:22 PM (n5fTN)

Its already there... the Oath is to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

Thus, those INTERNAL enemies who would destroy our Rights, are guilty of Treason...

Death Penalty applies.

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 18, 2015 06:25 PM (qh617)

267 Thankfully the NRA actually has balls and the willingness to squish fence sitting pols considering this. Maybe the NRA could loan one of those balls to the Republican Party

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue now with x4 damage to backstab at May 18, 2015 06:26 PM (ePbmj)

268 Sven @ 134- 50 rounds post-deployment?
Doesn't Ft. Jackson have enough ammo to give her? Why does her ammo come out of your pocket? Or, am I just dreaming about the mid 90's when Marines/Seabees burnt that stuff up like, well, you know what I mean?

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 06:26 PM (go5uR)

269 Apparently some of the deceased bikers were shot by cops.

It sounds like the restaurant really shit the bed. Cops told them weeks ago that the situation was bad news and they needed to have a police presence inside the bar.

Instead, the idiots refused to allow the cops inside, so they were forced to set up outside instead.

When the shooting started, the cops were in position to control the situation pretty quickly, but it all could have been avoided if they had jsut been allowed in to begin with.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:27 PM (MYCIw)

270 He also said he couldn't understand how conservatives want govt out of healthcare but want govt involved in ending a life.

Scrunts who want to force us to pay for their abortions suddenly concerned about gov't involvement in "ending a life"? Fuck those fucking fucks.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 06:28 PM (ZKzrr)

271 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:28 PM (kff5f)

272 267 Thankfully the NRA actually has balls and the willingness to squish fence sitting pols considering this. Maybe the NRA could loan one of those balls to the Republican Party
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue now with x4 damage to backstab at May 18, 2015 06:26 PM (ePbmj)

The GOPe would just roll them around in their mouths, thinking they were Sir Shankalot's.

Posted by: golfman at May 18, 2015 06:29 PM (48QDY)

273 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:29 PM (kff5f)

274 He also said he couldn't understand how conservatives want govt out of healthcare but want govt involved in ending a life.

I'm always amazed at the logical disconnect some people have. False equivalence completely eludes some people.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 06:29 PM (oVJmc)

275 After investigating the burned out and looted CVS the report stated that there were items not looted and intact. Suntan lotion and Father' Day cards were left unharmed.

*denounce

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 06:30 PM (XAFOu)

276 http://tinyurl.com/mrsvd5g

WZ about the new Disney/ABC sitcom written by, of all people, Dan Savage.

Guess it's time for Catholics to get all stabby and shooty like the Mohammedans did over a few cartoons.

Or, not.

This looks like the most insulting, stupid take on Catholics I have ever seen, outside of Martin Luther or Calvin.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 18, 2015 06:30 PM (+YMhA)

277 It sounds like the restaurant really shit the bed. Cops told them weeks
ago that the situation was bad news and they needed to have a police
presence inside the bar.
>>>

I heard that Twin Peaks corporate pulled the franchise license for that location. I wondered a little why the restaurant was to blame and now I know.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (aVYsC)

278 #bikerlivesmatter

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (TF10X)

279 Save me!

Posted by: Barry's Legacy at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (3F6F8)

280 *its* stride.

Oy.

Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (RJMhd)

281 Fuck those fucking fucks.

You need to become less inhibated (sic) here at AoS and less us know what you really think.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (xQX/f)

282 But to all the gun people... I wouldn't focus on ATF or Congress too much here. the real alphabet agency to worry about is the EPA.

After all, lead ammo is dangerous to the environment. could give bambi lead poisoning.

I'd be more against banning lead ammo if it weren't for idiots who go onto other people's land, shoot up a whole bunch of trash (cans, bottles, paper, TVs, refrigerators, etc), then leave all the discarded casings all over the place.

One of my church leaders recently had to spend a million dollars (no exaggeration) to clean up one of his business' land plots and post a guard to keep more people from re-ruining it before he could develop it.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:31 PM (jhqr1)

283 268 Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 06:26 PM (go5uR)

After her Afghanistan tour she wanted to go shoot her Mosin Nagant M-44, I bought her 1400 rounds...

for her Iraq tour gift she wanted a pair of open top revolvers....

she could not pick between the 1872 open tops the Richards and Mason 1851 conversions... so I bought 4 and let her blow through about 1200 rounds...

she decided she like the lines on the '72s so I got the pair of '51s...

it helps a person who has a little stress o exert control of their environment and sharpen their marksmanship skills.

She was not really looking for a "modern" experience in either case.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:32 PM (/4AZU)

284 Suntan lotion and Father' Day cards were left unharmed.

*denounce
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

I propose a law which would require welfare leaches to send Fathers' day cards to taxpayers.

Posted by: Rep. Ludwig the Indestructible at May 18, 2015 06:32 PM (wjzWP)

285 da left; we have no right to end a life because stuff and mean and cruel...

da left, babies are not a Life.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:33 PM (nqBYe)

286 Buzz, I hadn't heard that Twin Peaks pulled the franchise, but I do know that the TABC has pulled their liquor license for a week. That has to smart.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:33 PM (9iR5/)

287 This looks like the most insulting, stupid take on Catholics I have ever seen, outside of Martin Luther or Calvin.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 18, 2015 06:30 PM (+YMhA)

I suspect it'll last about 5 minutes.

Not because the US Public particularly cares about the Catholic church, but because anything so relentlessly mean-spirited will invariably be unfunny and boring.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:33 PM (kff5f)

288 Tsarnaov is a citizen that might redeem himself one day.

a baby is a parasite that deserves no such redemption from death.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:34 PM (nqBYe)

289 Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:32 PM (/4AZU)

*does quick math*

Will you be my sugar-daddy?

I mean, no-homo or anything, but will you?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (kff5f)

290 286 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:33 PM (9iR5/)

Eh I have some sympathy for the bar but not a lot...

essentially TDPS wanted to conduct intel on the "summit"....

the bar likely felt at best "they can't protect us" and at worst was collusive with the gangs...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (/4AZU)

291 The gun grabbers tried this before, under GCA '68. Handgun ammo sales only through licensed dealers, no mail-order sales, identification required, records of all sales sent to ATF. It was a complete failure, being both useless in reducing crime and creating an impossible workload. "The Bureau and the [Treasury] Department have recognized that current recordkeeping requirements for ammunition have no substantial law enforcement value." That part of the GCA was quietly cancelled.

Democrats don't have any successes to recycle, so they just keep repeating their failures.

Posted by: Socratease at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (82qVG)

292 This looks like the most insulting, stupid take on Catholics I have ever seen, outside of Martin Luther or Calvin.

Um, you do know Luther *was* RC until he ran up against the corruption of it all?

Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (ZbV+0)

293 >>It sounds like the restaurant really shit the bed. Cops told
them weeks ago that the situation was bad news and they needed to have a
police presence inside the bar.

Instead, the idiots refused to allow the cops inside, so they were
forced to set up outside instead.

Posted by: Lauren

I said yesterday that the restaurant probably was done. Seems so:

"Twin Peaks has revoked the franchise rights for a restaurant in Waco,
Texas, that was the scene of a shootout involving rival motorcycle gangs
that left nine bikers dead and 18 injured."

Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (sQzB6)

294 Yeah, Twin Peaks pulled the franchise for the Waco location and may also pull it from another location owned by the same group.

I'm sure he horde will be up to comforting all those poor displaced waitresses.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (MYCIw)

295 i believe the leadership of the country should take the same risks we do . and not have security details that carry protection For Them.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (nqBYe)

296 They were "having a summit" and I swear to God all hell broke loose in the bathroom...

Mr Moo Moo, wearing his gayest Planet Hollywood jacket, complimented one of the bikers on his penis.

Said biker thought he must be a member of a rival gang and started issuing beatdowns.

Moo unfortunately escaped harm.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (jhqr1)

297 You need to become less inhibated (sic) here at AoS and less us know what you really think.

I'll try harder.

I propose a law which would require welfare leaches to send Fathers' day cards to taxpayers.

With pictures of the babies we're supporting. We could hang them in the break room.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (ZKzrr)

298 So, the gangs held a 'summit' meeting at Twin Peaks? Apropos.

Unfortunately there were mounting tensions.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (NeFrd)

299 289 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:35 PM (kff5f)

"soon"...

when wife retires I plan on dropping in on a few rons and ettes or Mo-mees...

I *love* giving away black powder pistols and rifles.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:37 PM (/4AZU)

300 296 Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:36 PM (jhqr1)

I saw Hell's Accountants standing watch for Malformed Firehose in Upstate NY back in '94...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:38 PM (/4AZU)

301 2 Ban All The Things!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yep. At a certain point the Proggies should just make a little list of things that we _are_ allowed to have. Smaller and more manageable to keep track of that way.

Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at May 18, 2015 06:38 PM (XMX7O)

302 I lost all my firearms... If you have purchased a machine from a PRIVATE party, in most states, there is no registration requirement (gun shows). That is why libs are targeting private sales, THEY WANT ALL FIRE ARMS REGISTERED! If they do want a weapon, You should learn to be acceptant and understand that no one should have have access to a weapon. NO MORE rolling Pins !!!!!!

Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 06:38 PM (FIvdS)

303 Some blogger put up a pic of the untouched 'work boots' display at the Baltimore CVS. Some where outraged.

Not moi.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:38 PM (xQX/f)

304 Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:37 PM (/4AZU)

That would be cool.

Of course, if you wanted you could substitute a contribution to my self-publishing effort.

But, then, those aren't "either/or" options...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:38 PM (kff5f)

305 I just bought a (new to me) Garand at CMP Anniston. Pretty short supply, even in person. It will be here tomorrow. Today I bought 800 rds of garand food

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (6hAG+)

306 I *love* giving away black powder pistols and rifles.

When I was a Boy Scout I got the Riflery merit badge three times. It was my favorite. One of the three times was with black powder rifles. Tons of fun, they were.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (jhqr1)

307 Sven, lemme tell ya this. If I were the owner/manager of a successful breastarant, there is no way in hell I'm going to let two, much less five, violent criminal biker gangs use my establishment for a "summit". You're only asking for an explosion of violence as bikers start getting drunk and running their mouths.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (9iR5/)

308 Annnnnd here goes a new run on ammo.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (QyBQv)

309 Wow. Listening to Fox News, sounds like the administration is now filled with Bagdad Bobs from the CJCoS to the press secretary.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (BZAd3)

310 "Because Freedom failed, I guess."

And everybody knows how much Barack Obama hates "going back to failed policies of the past".

Posted by: Axeman at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (2mC6G)

311 266
Its already there... the Oath is to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

Thus, those INTERNAL enemies who would destroy our Rights, are guilty of Treason...

Death Penalty applies.

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 18, 2015 06:25 PM (qh617)/i]

If we ever start seriously enforcing treason laws, DC will be depopulated in a hurry.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

312

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

313 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (QyBQv)

Sometimes I think Dem pols own large amounts of stocks in ammo companies.

...Think about it...

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (AkOaV)

314 307 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (9iR5/)

OMGs are defacto organized crime crews....

they tip well, and tend to be polite...until they aren't.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (/4AZU)

315 Living on the edge, I am.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

316 Whoa.

Posted by: golfman at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (48QDY)

317 If you have purchased a machine from a PRIVATE party, in most states, there is no registration requirement (gun shows).

True, but the "private party" can run into legal issues if they sell more than N guns as a private party within a year. N in this case is fairly small, I believe fewer than 10.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:41 PM (jhqr1)

318 If I were the owner/manager of a successful breastarant,
Posted by: Old Blue

Please tell me that's not a typo. Breastarant has to be a thing.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at May 18, 2015 06:41 PM (wjzWP)

319 306 Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (jhqr1)

In a healthy person marksmanship is a civic virtue and a GREAT psychological exercise in centering...

like darts with more real world application of skill.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:41 PM (/4AZU)

320 313 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (QyBQv)

Sometimes I think Dem pols own large amounts of stocks in ammo companies.

...Think about it...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 06:40 PM (AkOaV)

Nah. Just day traders.

Posted by: golfman at May 18, 2015 06:41 PM (48QDY)

321 Oh, lest I forget....
HR and Jane and Doe Boy...HOORA!!!
*But keep it between us Morons...*

Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 06:42 PM (FIvdS)

322 And republicans get on board in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: Cheese at May 18, 2015 06:42 PM (Tt5Gn)

323 Um, you do know Luther *was* RC until he ran up against the corruption of it all?

Um, you do know Luther was so pro-science he wanted some heretic burned at the stake for proposing the Earth revolved around the Sun?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:42 PM (xQX/f)

324 They released the findings on the VonMeritt shooting in STLouis and there will be no charges files.

That is the one the idiots were claiming the guy shot a sammie.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:43 PM (iQIUe)

325 Please tell me that's not a typo. Breastarant has to be a thing.

It's a thing. Hooters is the most famous example of a breastarant.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:43 PM (jhqr1)

326 I'd like to see a law that imposes capital punishment on legislators who vote in favor of laws that violate the bill of rights.

That's Honduras. The authors of their constitution trusted their politicians, and citizens, so little that they marked out some parts of the constitution as, "if you even THINK OUT LOUD about amending this, you're fired". Stuff like term limits.

That's how Zelaya got the boot, btw.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 18, 2015 06:43 PM (AVEe1)

327 Please tell me that's not a typo. Breastarant has to be a thing.

Two things

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (W5DcG)

328 Whenever you make something conraband, you create criminals and black markets. Lawmakers need to consider whether it is worthwhile (of course it will be worthwhwhile for the black marketeers and their enablers).

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (+jijM)

329
I propose we get rid of welfare, there is a well known connection between that and crime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (ODxAs)

330 Um, you do know Luther was so pro-science he wanted some heretic burned at the stake for proposing the Earth revolved around the Sun?

If you think that's bad, just read what Luther thought about Joooos. The Red Dragon of the KKK thought he was a bit too hard on them.

/I may have made that last sentence up

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (jhqr1)

331 And I'm sure Dan Savage condemns Pam Geller.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (oVJmc)

332 Prince Ludwig, breastarant is indeed a thing. Hooters, Twin Peaks, and others. The term breastarant was coined a couple of years ago as the business model. Young pert breasteses can sell an enormous amount of alcohol and chicken wings.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (9iR5/)

333 A "breastaurant" is a restaurant that becomes famous for its scantily-clad waitresses. It is indeed a thing.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:45 PM (GWIIN)

334 By Red Dragon I mean Grand Dragon.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:45 PM (jhqr1)

335 328 Posted by: bergerbilder at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (+jijM)

See my post on "battery remediation" and "small scale lead smelting"...

we're the United States of America populated by last I checked Americans...

the fukcers can't take away our guns they can just make us value them all the more.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:45 PM (/4AZU)

336 I don't know for sure how much ammo I've got, more than I can carry. With my truck.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 18, 2015 06:46 PM (FbufE)

337 Thank fuckingG-D this mother loving day is almost over

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 06:46 PM (rDqRv)

338 Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 18, 2015 06:46 PM (FbufE)

So, "almost enough."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:46 PM (kff5f)

339 A unanimous court ruled Monday that once a gun owner is convicted of a felony, his or her lawfully owned firearms can be transferred from government custody to a third party if a court is satisfied that the recipient would not give the felon control over the firearms

Good.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (XAFOu)

340 305 I just bought a (new to me) Garand at CMP Anniston. Pretty short supply, even in person. It will be here tomorrow. Today I bought 800 rds of garand food
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at May 18, 2015 06:39 PM (6hAG+)

There's a possibility that the CMP may start offering surplus Army 1911s that have been in storage since the 80s if Congressman Mike Rogers gets his way. http://bit.ly/1IN9Iwn

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (pAlYe)

341 Um, you do know Luther was so pro-science he wanted some heretic burned at the stake for proposing the Earth revolved around the Sun?

If you think that's bad, just read what Luther thought about Joooos. The Red Dragon of the KKK thought he was a bit too hard on them.

/I may have made that last sentence up
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (jhqr1)

The worst ckufing street in any German town is Martin Luther Blvd.

Posted by: Khris von Rock at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (0cMkb)

342 That's Honduras. The authors of their constitution trusted their politicians, and citizens, so little that they marked out some parts of the constitution as, "if you even THINK OUT LOUD about amending this, you're fired". Stuff like term limits.

That's how Zelaya got the boot, btw.

Doesn't Honduras have a military Junta enforcing this codicil? I'd be all for something like this in our Constitution if it weren't for that pesky little detail.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (jhqr1)

343 Do the bill's sponsors mean about "unspeakable gun violence" when SWAT teams execute family pets or shoot grandfathers?

And how many of the bill's cosponsors will eventually be charged with
embezzlement or corruption, like many of the New Jersey legislators?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (mHoza)

344 Luther was spot on about the mohammedans though.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (wjzWP)

345 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 06:46 PM (rDqRv)

Amen, Brother.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:47 PM (kff5f)

346 I have a theory about why the Waco Twin Peaks was so stupid.

RoT Rally.

It's become a goofy "family friendly" ish event that makes bikers all seem like a bunch of harmless guys in leather drinking beer. My husbands brothers go every year, and though they do own motorcycles, they're about as far from the "biker" image you can imagine.

And they eat at Twin Peaks.

I think this whole "biker appreciation day" think stems from that and the managers were legitimately shocked to see it go all Sons of Anarchy on them.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:48 PM (MYCIw)

347 Men are tweeting obama's new Twitter account asking him to spank them and for sex.

Surely this is a sign of the end of days

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

348 Banning Ammo Eh?
Little late for that .

Posted by: Motreal Cannuck at May 18, 2015 06:48 PM (/WmRg)

349 @277 - yeah, right now the luckiest guy in the world is that restaurant manager.

He'll be fired, sure.

But it looks like the only killed and injured were participants in the melee, so he and the chain that runs the place might not be sued into oblivion.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (sometimes JEM) at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (o+SC1)

350 Buddy of mine reports that his sales of 80% lowers is surging in the last several months.

I'm guessing that some people, when ordered, will turn in their registered firearms.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (VPLuQ)

351
New drudge lead: Hillary trying to lie her fat ass off again.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (ODxAs)

352 #334: Is Grand Dragon a KKK-themed breastaurant?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (GWIIN)

353 By Red Dragon I mean Grand Dragon.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:45 PM (jhqr1)

*clicks slide projector*

Bonhomme, do you see?

Posted by: The Red Dragon at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (0cMkb)

354 Hooters, Twin Peaks, and others.

Young pert breasteses can sell an enormous amount of alcohol and chicken wings.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:44 PM (9iR5/)

Tilted Kilt is another. Young, pert and in kilts that sometimes are worn in the "Regimental" style.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (nL0sw)

355 Hillary trying to lie her fat ass off again.

That's a lot of lying.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:50 PM (kff5f)

356 Guy Mohawk. Not even hillary can lie off something that big

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:50 PM (zOTsN)

357 So I guess, since its out there, the GOP will endorse this any day now?

Maybe Rand could give a filibuster and a speech about how much it sucks before he and Cruz vote for it.

Posted by: bernverdnardo at May 18, 2015 06:50 PM (WhfU/)

358 #354: By "regimental", do you mean "commando"? I may have to pay a visit to my local Tilted Kilt, if that's the case.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (GWIIN)

359 A unanimous court ruled Monday that once a gun owner is convicted of a felony, his or her lawfully owned firearms can be transferred from government custody to a third party if a court is satisfied that the recipient would not give the felon control over the firearms

Now if only we could get something like this going for gun owners involved in a shooting event. The local PD comes over and grabs all of your guns during the investigation.

They're famous for "losing" or "accidentally destroying" said guns if/when the gun owner is proven to have committed a lawful shooting.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (jhqr1)

360 >>>Our bill to limit the online sale of ammunition is a long-overdue common
sense reform that I am hopeful will spark Congress to put aside party
difference and come together to help prevent such senseless tragedies.<<<

This is pure idiocy. So if you purchase more than 1000 rounds, it's considered a tragedy? It's a wonder this fool can breathe without instructions.

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (UzPAd)

361 New drudge lead: Hillary trying to lie her fat ass off again.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (ODxAs)

Has anyone read it yet? Looks like it's a GOP.com exclusive, and the Drudge link done killed their server.

Posted by: mugiwara at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (3a584)

362 Biker clubs love the peak-to-peak highway above Boulder. They're all fat old farts playing at being bikers. The only thing in danger from them is the buffet table at the Kathmandu Nepalese restaurant in Nederland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (AVEe1)

363 Warbler, that is affirmative. Although it may have been a G-string. All I know is I didn't see anything but, well, butt on one of the servers last time I was in the Hendersonville, TN location.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 06:52 PM (nL0sw)

364 By "regimental", do you mean "commando"? I may have to pay a visit to my local Tilted Kilt, if that's the case.

Yes. "A kilt worn in the regimental style" does indeed mean "sans underwear."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:52 PM (kff5f)

365 *clicks slide projector*

Bonhomme, do you see?

Gah! Put some pants on!

Hey, where'd you get this nifty olde tymie wheelchair?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 06:53 PM (jhqr1)

366 Posted by: The Red Dragon at May 18, 2015 06:49 PM (0cMkb)

Nice

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 06:53 PM (XAFOu)

367 362 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 18, 2015 06:51 PM (AVEe1)

Not "all" bikers...

the 1%ers are legit trouble if they are in an OMG...

Hell's Accountants and "The Electrician Apocalypse" are essentially cosplayers with a different fetish than women like this...

http://tinyurl.com/lovdvxm

SFW-Melina as Spider Woman...

I prefer the chicks dressed like super heroines.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:54 PM (/4AZU)

368 PW, there's one in the Denver area?

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:54 PM (9iR5/)

369 If you go to the tilted kilt website you can vote on a kilt girl for the calendar. I know you guys love to vote

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

370 It's just a Gramscian long-march tactic.

They'll keep trying to turn the ratchet in a direction favorable to their agenda at every opportunity, knowing that the ratchet rarely if ever will be turned back the way that it came.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 06:55 PM (noWW6)

371 I know you guys love to vote

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

It's our civic duty.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 06:55 PM (kff5f)

372 If you go to the tilted kilt website you can vote on a kilt girl for the calendar. I know you guys love to vote

All in favor, raise a... um...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 18, 2015 06:55 PM (AVEe1)

373 And Maet, I want one! Please please please please!

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 06:55 PM (9iR5/)

374 Such patriots.

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:56 PM (zOTsN)

375 According to Drudge, Sid Blumenthal, aka Mr. Moo Moo, is paid by the Clinton Foundation.

Gawd. My brain, it hurts. Foundation=undergarment=Hillary=upCharles lunch.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 06:56 PM (xQX/f)

376 I think this whole "biker appreciation day" think stems from that and the managers were legitimately shocked to see it go all Sons of Anarchy on them.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:48 PM (MYCIw)

============
Except they were specifically warned by the police that tensions were high.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:56 PM (iQIUe)

377 " If you go to the tilted kilt website you can vote on a kilt girl for the calendar. I know you guys love to vote"

Page not found

Damn it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 06:57 PM (VPLuQ)

378 "Except they were specifically warned by the police that tensions were high."

Yeah, and I think they discounted it because "oh, we know these guys! They're good guys, just misunderstood ect"

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (MYCIw)

379 Interesting. I once wore a kilt in that "regimental style" at a friend's wedding. I also did a little swing-dancing in that outfit at the reception... ladies.

Have I mentioned yet today that I'm single, and also heterosexual?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (GWIIN)

380 Ahhh. It appears voting has closed. You can however examine the kilt girl of the month m she seems to be in a haystack wearing a modified BDU shirt. Perhaps she's on an exercise

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (zOTsN)

381 376 Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 06:56 PM (iQIUe)

The Bikers were probably trying to hammer our distribution territories...

ah well, for the most part steer clear of them they only kill each other.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (/4AZU)

382 #368: Yes, on the 16th St. Mall, in the Tabor Center.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:59 PM (GWIIN)

383 Progressive Party. we have a gun and bullet problem.

which is why we are going to give guns to syrians,libyans and Mexican drug cartels.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 06:59 PM (nqBYe)

384 378 Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (MYCIw)

"Cueball is really turning his life around and he tips Trixy really well..."

//Manager at the Hoo Hoo Palace

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:59 PM (/4AZU)

385 379 Interesting. I once wore a kilt in that "regimental style" at a friend's wedding. I also did a little swing-dancing in that outfit at the reception... ladies.

Have I mentioned yet today that I'm single, and also heterosexual?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 06:58 PM (GWIIN)

And you only lie half the time right? :p

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2015 07:01 PM (z/Ubi)

386 I used to troll the Daily Kos and I asked them seriously what they thought the point of "Fast and Furious" was. They all agreed it was to push gun control and none of them had any problem with that. How fucked up is that.

Posted by: bernverdnardo at May 18, 2015 07:01 PM (WhfU/)

387 criminal conduct/murder/robbery with Guns is out of control!

so we'll just take em from the law abiding and give em to drug cartels and those that overthrow other countries.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (nqBYe)

388 see it go all Sons of Anarchy on them.
--------
Yeah, about that. Any time you have someone flying a patch that says "Bandidos" or "Cossacks" or "Scimitars" on their back, you really ought to be able to figure out that these aren't your kind of guys that ride their bikes on weekends and wearing leathers to look "cool".
You really don't want a group of Bandidos and Hell's Angels wannabes in the same room at the same time with as much alcohol as they can drink. And they can drink a bunch of alcohol.
When I ran cowboy bars, I wouldn't allow colors in the club. Too many issues.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (9iR5/)

389 A restaurant in Murfreesboro, TN, changed their name to Tooters when a court challenge didn't look like it was going their way.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (+jijM)

390 Interesting. I once wore a kilt in that "regimental style" at a friend's wedding. I also did a little swing-dancing in that outfit at the reception... ladies.

Can you keep it on the down low? Like less then 106 mph on a 55 mph curve?

We have an opening.

Posted by: Am(un)Tracked at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (xQX/f)

391 I thought tooting was another word for farting. I would not want to go to tooters

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 07:03 PM (zOTsN)

392 388 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (9iR5/)

So some Syrians, Mexicans, and Russians go to as chicken joint...

a musical breaks out...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 07:03 PM (/4AZU)

393 Speaking of RoT, that's going to be...interesting this year.

I'm also curious what's going to happen with the civil forfeiture of all those bikes. I can't imagine they're all just going to shrug their shoulders and go about their lives. I guess we'll see how far these stupid gangs want to take things.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 07:03 PM (MYCIw)

394 anywho, i don't think they give two chts about anything but disarming americans.

they certainly have NO problem arming other peoples of the planet.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 07:03 PM (nqBYe)

395 Militarized Thug Breastaurants!!

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at May 18, 2015 07:04 PM (MkQKr)

396 a musical breaks out...
-----
Sven, you old dog, you. That was downright hilarious.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (9iR5/)

397 I'm also curious what's going to happen with the civil forfeiture of all those bikes. I can't imagine they're all just going to shrug their shoulders and go about their lives. I guess we'll see how far these stupid gangs want to take things.

If they're not careful, they may run afoul of the Fully Armed and Operational Texas Rangers.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (kff5f)

398 #391: Agreed. Cooters would've been a much more enticing name.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (GWIIN)

399 A restaurant in Murfreesboro, TN, changed their name to Tooters when a court challenge didn't look like it was going their way.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 18, 2015 07:02 PM (+jijM)

Toot's? The place with a clam as their mascot?

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (nL0sw)

400 Sven @ 283- more modern experience.
Thanks, I can understand that. Those old ones are fun and can comply with the C and R in some cases. Mrs E's oldest is a Springfield 03A1, though she has not fired it. I have of course.

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (go5uR)

401 396 Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (9iR5/)

Just a nice way for an old cop in a crime drama to get the point across "guess what happens next"...

I wish I were a writer.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (/4AZU)

402 St. Louis gonna burn again?

No charges against St. Louis officer who killed VonDerrit Myers

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (XAFOu)

403 "Budweiser and meth, that's what that was..." - Some cop on Cops

Posted by: bernverdnardo at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (WhfU/)

404 #390: Not in Denver, you don't.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (GWIIN)

405 Bikers (not weekend warriors)usually treat their bikes better than their women.

they'll even use their living room as a garage.
so they might have a fight over their bikes.

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (nqBYe)

406 "When I ran cowboy bars, I wouldn't allow colors in the club. Too many issues"

Yeah, from what understand that's pretty standard practice for bike bars too. That's why I think this Twin Peaks was just run by idiots who didn't understand what they were doing.

I mean, I wouldn't know any better either because I have led a very sheltered life, but if the cops came to me and said "uh, you're setting yourself up for a turf war" I'd like to think I'd listen and not be a d-bag.

Posted by: Lauren at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (MYCIw)

407 Cooters would've been a much more enticing name.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (GWIIN)

What? Like this? http://bit.ly/1JuaIX0

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (kff5f)

408 400 Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (go5uR)

Right, the '03s are works of art and stand well against ANY Mauser...

I dunno like I said I am 70% doleful I didn't get my C and R most especially b/c I am a HUGE Hi-Power fan...

it'll all work out in the end.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 07:07 PM (/4AZU)

409 Mood Cankles up

*sorry for the image

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 07:07 PM (XAFOu)

410 Cooters would've been a much more enticing name.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 07:05 PM (GWIIN)

What? Like this? http://bit.ly/1JuaIX0

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 07:06 PM (kff5f)

cootersplace.com

Posted by: Country Singer at May 18, 2015 07:08 PM (nL0sw)

411 gah i really hate the term cooter.
jmho

Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 07:08 PM (nqBYe)

412 Nood dammit

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 07:08 PM (XAFOu)

413 Why not just call it BUTTFUCKERS

Posted by: bernverdnardo at May 18, 2015 07:08 PM (WhfU/)

414 When you look up one percent biker gangs in wiki, it describes how poorly the men treat the women, forcing them into prostitution and stripping. Then oddly it says these rough tattooed women are known for their conservative beliefs

They just can't help themselves

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 07:09 PM (zOTsN)

415 #407: That guy probably hates his parents for naming him after a vagina, much like Winnie the Pooh must hate his parents for naming him after a piece of shit.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 07:09 PM (GWIIN)

416 411 Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 07:08 PM (nqBYe)

WTF DID I DO!?!?!

//Cooter Davenport

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 07:09 PM (/4AZU)

417 Lauren, you can fix ugly, and you can even fix fat. You cannot, however, fix the terminally stupid.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 18, 2015 07:10 PM (9iR5/)

418 Can we ban politicians that use two surnames?

Posted by: Scott at May 18, 2015 07:10 PM (8YE33)

419 It's in an article titled "Outlaw Motorcyle Clubs", under the section titled "gender and race"

Posted by: ThunderB, Overly Provocative at May 18, 2015 07:10 PM (zOTsN)

420 340 Maet - I've heard that and hope it's true. there was no indication of said rumor in Anniston on Friday

McGyver, Out

Posted by: McGyver at May 18, 2015 07:18 PM (6hAG+)

421 According to Drudge, Sid Blumenthal, aka Mr. Moo Moo, is paid by the Clinton Foundation.

So the 'charity' funds their political machine.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 07:20 PM (oVJmc)

422 Khajiit Has Wares if You Have Coin.

Posted by: MaddAddam at May 18, 2015 07:50 PM (+9W16)

423 What are the chances that New Jersey could be severed from the United States and made a part of Canada or Holland or some other place like that? Hey, do you think we could talk Canada into trading us Alberta for New Jersey? Maybe Mexico would trade us Baja California for New Jersey.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 18, 2015 07:51 PM (KDbAT)

424 I agree wholehartedly with my friends on the left. This must pass.. :weep..sniffle:

Posted by: John boner at May 18, 2015 08:40 PM (ersJc)

425
I regret it, I probably would have been quite the Finnish Nagant collector if I could have cut out the middle guy BUT getting them delivered on Fort Bliss would have been a royal pain in the ass given the Provost Marshall's bent.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 06:06 PM (/4AZU)

The Burns family occasionally has antique Finn M39s, not to mention lots and lots of regular C ampersand R M39s. Not cheap, but their descriptions are right on so you know what you're buying.

http://www.gunsnammo.com/

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2015 09:09 PM (ynQIy)

426 The best part of all this is that YOU get to pay for the regulatory overhead of retailers being required to spy on you on behalf of the thugs in government, cash out the door or not.

I guess that 3rd Amendment was not quite as broad as the Founders could have imagined it would need to be... But all is OK because technically, they are not soldiers, and they are not in your home, just down the street looking over your shoulder, taking notes on what you buy...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 18, 2015 09:15 PM (NaeCR)

427 123
114 Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 05:47 PM (IeHJQ)

and
civic justice would dictate that in a sane republic people "burdened by
showing ID to get ammo" would tar and feather politicians claiming an ID
to vote is totalitarian...

we do not live in a sane republic.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 18, 2015 05:49 PM (/4AZU)

AND... you do not have to be a citizen to own a firearm/ammo in the US.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 18, 2015 09:44 PM (NaeCR)

428 No most of them in office see very well, they just operate under the assumption that they will be the slavers.

Posted by: Bete reading about the burning times at May 18, 2015 06:13 PM (F9322)

They already are.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 18, 2015 10:07 PM (NaeCR)

429 Man, this is good.

Posted by: bour3 at May 18, 2015 10:49 PM (5x3+2)

430 The violent and rioting Obama rule demands a foot in the door to disarming lawful citizens, due to the lawlessness of those Obama champions. Re-inventing society to usher in more utopia, (less freedoms for you and me) ergo social engineering-societal upheaval the socialist/muslim way.

Posted by: ron n. at May 18, 2015 11:20 PM (YVQn/)

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