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Economist: The Economy Might Stink For a Long Time to Come
Rush Limbaugh was just talking about this article, which had been published in the New York Times. His take was that as it had been excerpted at Yahoo News, Low Information Voters and Millennials (but I repeat myself) would actually see it when they came to Yahoo to read about "Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Jennifer Lopez and her butt."
The economy might stink for a while. Writing in the New York Times this weekend, economist, author, and blogger Tyler Cowen says that we might need to get used to the idea that the economy will continue to underperform our expectations. Cowen says that right now there are two core outlooks on the economy, both of which are inherently optimistic. One says that things like low wage growth and low interest rates are phases that will pass, and the other is that we merely didn't appreciate how long it would take to recover from the financial crisis. But is it a foregone conclusion that things will just get back to "normal"?Tyler Cowen writes in the New York times that we may be experiencing a "Great Reset," in which the economy is shifting for a permanent reduction in output and wealth.
Let's consider an analogy to see how this might work in practice. Well before the recent recession, many colleges and universities realized that they could not afford so many full-time tenured and tenure-track faculty members, and they began to increase their reliance on lower-paid adjuncts. Few institutions fired large numbers of full-timers suddenly, because that could have left them understaffed if trends reversed. Longstanding protections of tenure were also a constraint. Instead, many administrators added modestly to the number of adjunct faculty members, sometimes over decades, relying on retirement and attrition to manage the shift in a relatively smooth manner. That evolution reflects a more general principle: Institutional rigidities don't permit adjustments to occur all at once, but by studying continuing changes we may be able to peer around a corner and see where a sector is headed. Such processes are scary because we may be watching the slow unfolding of a hand that, in its fundamentals, has already been dealt. There are signs that a comparable story may apply to the American economy more broadly. In manufacturing, for example, Ford, Chrysler, General Motors, Caterpillar and Navistar (formerly International Harvester) all pay many of their new workers much less. In some of these two-tier structures, the new wage may be as little as half the old one. In addition to this rapid change, the companies also seem to be reducing the ranks of highly paid workers through slow attrition. ... All of these factors could indicate that our economy is evolving into one that will offer far less favorable long-run wage prospects.... In short, are these economic problems transitory, or are we glimpsing the beginnings of a grimmer future?Cowen notes that the negative effects -- reduced wages, chiefly -- fall disproportionately on the young, aka The Obama Generation, so the next generation is being taught to accept lower wages, both now and in their futures. Limbaugh's take -- apart from the fact that the ignorant would finally see some news about the Obama economy -- is that this article is still making excuses for Obama, still suggesting that this is entirely due to tectonic structural forces that Obama couldn't possibly have anything to do with, and obviously, then, he should not be blamed. It is astonishing to see how our economy has essentially been downsized to Italy West, and yet the elites are so heavily invested in Obama they 1, try to ignore this fact, and 2, when forced to confront it, claim that policy is entirely irrelevant when dealing with such large-sized structural forces. Obama wanted to transform America into a European country. Well, he got his wish. Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:45 PM (xSCb6)
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But everyone on Morning Joe says the economy is great!
Posted by: LIV in his parent's basement at May 18, 2015 03:46 PM (FsuaD)
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In the future, what used to be called an "economic depression" will be known as an "Obama phase."
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 03:46 PM (jBuUi)
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a banana republic with color tv.
Posted by: Burnt Reynolds Botox at May 18, 2015 03:46 PM (ucB75)
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All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama is doing a great job of cleaning up the Bush disaster. It is Bush's fault if this happens and once again persons of color will sufffer because of Republi-Idiot policies. We hate Bush and demand Presdent Obama place him in jail in that horrible prison built by him in Cuba..............
Clinic think President Obama is doing a great job of cleaning up the Bush disaster. It is Bush's fault if this happens and once again persons of color will sufffer because of Republi-Idiot policies. We hate Bush and demand Presdent Obama place him in jail in that horrible prison built by him in Cuba..............
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 18, 2015 03:47 PM (lNSdJ)
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But, but, don't all the best economists attend Punahou Academy? And he's so cool.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (oDCMR)
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My husband's 30 y.o. niece (and Obamabot...still), hasn't had a steady job in years.
We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For "peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For "peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD)
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Upside is that inexplicable trumpet sounds from the sky are being heard all over the world. So it will all be irrelevant soon. Buy gold.
Posted by: Glenn Beck at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (vgIRn)
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On the plus side, if you invest in soma now, you'll be assured of huge rates of return.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (LAe3v)
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It Stinks!
Posted by: The Critic at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (L52Oz)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 03:49 PM (BZAd3)
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***"economist, author, and blogger Tyler Cowen says that we might need to get used to the idea that the economy will continue to underperform our expectations."***
All these clowns that write about the economy have confused the word "expectations" with 'magical thinking'.
All these clowns that write about the economy have confused the word "expectations" with 'magical thinking'.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:49 PM (xSCb6)
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In other, completely unrelated news:
48% of the country is not only unemployd but has stopped looking for work, and so don't appear on the "unemployment rolls" and don't appear in the statistics.
In reality, the percentage of people who are unemployed now is GREATER than it was even at the height of the Great Depression in the 1930s, and is the highest in history.
But that fact is disguised by statistical sleight-of-hand.
Worse, many of those unemployed have now become hooked on government entitlements and handouts -- what used to be called "welfare."
In short, not only in the economy in the ditch, Obama may very well have ruined it permanently.
48% of the country is not only unemployd but has stopped looking for work, and so don't appear on the "unemployment rolls" and don't appear in the statistics.
In reality, the percentage of people who are unemployed now is GREATER than it was even at the height of the Great Depression in the 1930s, and is the highest in history.
But that fact is disguised by statistical sleight-of-hand.
Worse, many of those unemployed have now become hooked on government entitlements and handouts -- what used to be called "welfare."
In short, not only in the economy in the ditch, Obama may very well have ruined it permanently.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 03:49 PM (jBuUi)
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This thread sort of falls into line with some lose thoughts that have been rattling around in my head.
Unfocused, and unable to even define the dots, let alone connect them in my thoughts.
But it's almost as if industry, and Higher Education know there is a shitstorm coming. And they are clearing the decks and preparing for the post shitstorm reality.
Unfocused, and unable to even define the dots, let alone connect them in my thoughts.
But it's almost as if industry, and Higher Education know there is a shitstorm coming. And they are clearing the decks and preparing for the post shitstorm reality.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (21T44)
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She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD
Start her a Go Fund Me. Maybe she can be the next Rachel Corrie. Flat as a Pancake Part Deux.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD
Start her a Go Fund Me. Maybe she can be the next Rachel Corrie. Flat as a Pancake Part Deux.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (n6Nt0)
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This economy, corruption of American political system, Fascist takeover of government, international situation, middle east realignment and assorted diseases could have happened to anyone!!
Mostly, these inevitable historical forces began under George Bush. It's evident that only the brave Progressive forces pushing back have prevented a more wholesale decline in the economy.
You should thank your lucky stars Ronald Reagan isn't still alive, or else we might be in much worse shape.
Mostly, these inevitable historical forces began under George Bush. It's evident that only the brave Progressive forces pushing back have prevented a more wholesale decline in the economy.
You should thank your lucky stars Ronald Reagan isn't still alive, or else we might be in much worse shape.
Posted by: Jen Psaki, Obama Worshiping Press Offical Spokescrunt at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (FCsIb)
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Yeah, but even if its on Yahoo News, they still won't click it instead of clicking on Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (YYJjz)
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So Obama's special snowflakes are now being told that their futures aren't so special after all.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (wtvvX)
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How's this: Those 25000 people who are fleeing for their lives out of Ramadi - you guessed it - resetting.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (BZAd3)
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FWIW, Tyler Cowen isn't a lib. He wrote "Average is Over: Powering America Beyond the Age of the Great Stagnation ".
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (LAe3v)
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1. Stimulus that is not stimulus.
2. Hog-wild, unlimited college education subsidies.
3. Hostility to "dirty" economic sectors.
4. Ignoring math to subsidize "clean" economic sectors.
5. The EPA as an unmuzzled bureaucracy.
6. Standing by while the world burns.
7. Ever more entitlements...and deficits.
8. Generic unseriousness as reflected in a paucity of actual national strategy on anything.
Yeah--stuff totally beyond his control.
2. Hog-wild, unlimited college education subsidies.
3. Hostility to "dirty" economic sectors.
4. Ignoring math to subsidize "clean" economic sectors.
5. The EPA as an unmuzzled bureaucracy.
6. Standing by while the world burns.
7. Ever more entitlements...and deficits.
8. Generic unseriousness as reflected in a paucity of actual national strategy on anything.
Yeah--stuff totally beyond his control.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (659DL)
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Hey! An economics post.
I was on yahoo finance this morning and they mentioned that according to Q values, stock market is way overprices. Also, QE was a fact.
Of course, then they had a rebut that we are not a manufacturing economy so Qvalues unimportant, but the two times it has been this bad were the 29 crash and .com crash. So, you know. Make of that what you will.
Also, there was a weird ruling on 401k plans which I'm still trying to think out as far as implications.
I was on yahoo finance this morning and they mentioned that according to Q values, stock market is way overprices. Also, QE was a fact.
Of course, then they had a rebut that we are not a manufacturing economy so Qvalues unimportant, but the two times it has been this bad were the 29 crash and .com crash. So, you know. Make of that what you will.
Also, there was a weird ruling on 401k plans which I'm still trying to think out as far as implications.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (lIU4e)
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Coming up next: Funemployment in Recovery Summer!
Posted by: tu3031 at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (YFFpo)
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Thank goodness Recovery Summer 2015 officially begins next week!
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (7Kbxu)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (8ZskC)
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I'm sure Moob Moob will be along shortly to clear all this economic stuff up by citing incorrect data and lying about his personal life.
Be patient.
Be patient.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:52 PM (xSCb6)
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Please tell me you hit "Reply to All".
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (xSCb6)
I won't respond to the stupid little....*delete*.
On the eve of our son's deployment to Shitcanistan, she informed him, "I want you to know I don't approve of your service. Are you going to enjoy killing people?"
I've never forgiven her.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:50 PM (xSCb6)
I won't respond to the stupid little....*delete*.
On the eve of our son's deployment to Shitcanistan, she informed him, "I want you to know I don't approve of your service. Are you going to enjoy killing people?"
I've never forgiven her.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:52 PM (FsuaD)
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Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?
Because every form of savings aside from the bank of Serta depends on keeping young people optimistic so the elites can cash out at favorable rates.
Because every form of savings aside from the bank of Serta depends on keeping young people optimistic so the elites can cash out at favorable rates.
Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2015 03:52 PM (ZbV+0)
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Bernie Sanders is going to turn this around!
Posted by: All the Idiots on Facebook at May 18, 2015 03:52 PM (7Kbxu)
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Sort of like Insty says...
That which can not continue, won't.
That which can not continue, won't.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (VPLuQ)
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How long before MATH catches up and the SHTF for real?
Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (jmN7w)
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Does anyone mention that the current "occupiers" of higher office also do not wish for the next generation to receive the benefits of the hard work of a lifetime from their parents. Not only will they earn less, they won't get a boost from inheritance either. Why, look how fair everything will be. :/
Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (GgxVX)
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I'm sure Moob Moob will be along shortly to clear all this economic stuff up by citing incorrect data and lying about his personal life.
It may be a while. Today is counting day at El Rancho Moo Moo.
It may be a while. Today is counting day at El Rancho Moo Moo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (jBuUi)
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Waffles for everybody!
Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (YFFpo)
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48% of the country is not only unemployd but has stopped looking for work, and so don't appear on the "unemployment rolls" and don't appear in the statistics.
In reality, the percentage of people who are unemployed now is
GREATER than it was even at the height of the Great Depression in the
1930s, and is the highest in history.
Get used to it. At least we'll keep you around.........for now.
In reality, the percentage of people who are unemployed now is
GREATER than it was even at the height of the Great Depression in the
1930s, and is the highest in history.
Get used to it. At least we'll keep you around.........for now.
Posted by: Robot workers at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (LAe3v)
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For calling someone she is related to and has some knowledge of their personality, I am in the GoFundMe camp. Let her go visit Gaza and be used as a human shield.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 03:54 PM (21T44)
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Hey, I hear there's a really good overpass just north of downtown Miami, where it's warm 12 months of the year, and there is a huge combo Sears/Best Buy close by so roomy cardboard boxes are plentiful.
It's a great country!
It's a great country!
Posted by: American Middle Class at May 18, 2015 03:54 PM (FCsIb)
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Was this article written in 2008?
Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 18, 2015 03:54 PM (q6Lzx)
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7 My husband's 30 y.o. niece (and Obamabot...still), hasn't had a steady job in years.
We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For "peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
------------------------
The smart move is to buy her a one way ticket to Palestine. Oh, and then change your address and don't tell the relatives.
We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For "peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
------------------------
The smart move is to buy her a one way ticket to Palestine. Oh, and then change your address and don't tell the relatives.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (oDCMR)
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Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (kff5f)
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If the government just gave us free stuff everything would be totes cool!
It's those mean White cis-het 1%ers who horde all the money that's causing the economy to suck.
If everything was redistributed then we'd all be happy and equal and enjoy a Capitalism free life in a commune where I could like raise awareness and stuff and everything would be free!!1!
It's those mean White cis-het 1%ers who horde all the money that's causing the economy to suck.
If everything was redistributed then we'd all be happy and equal and enjoy a Capitalism free life in a commune where I could like raise awareness and stuff and everything would be free!!1!
Posted by: Typical Mellennial LIV who has something important to say DAD! at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (7YlUk)
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Yeah...7 to 10 more years of this shit and you'll have an entire generation that's never known what prosperity was like.
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (4CRfK)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (kff5f)
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U.S. General says that ISIS just hasn't gotten the word on the reset yet:
http://tinyurl.com/m6gygju
http://tinyurl.com/m6gygju
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (BZAd3)
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For calling someone she is related to and has some knowledge of their personality, I am in the GoFundMeckHerself camp.
What!
What!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 03:55 PM (VPLuQ)
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>>On the eve of our son's deployment to Shitcanistan, she informed him, "I want you to know I don't approve of your service. Are you going to enjoy killing people?"
Oh Shit! No wonder you can't stand them.
Oh Shit! No wonder you can't stand them.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (AkOaV)
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FWIW, Tyler Cowen isn't a lib. He wrote "Average is Over: Powering America Beyond the Age of the Great Stagnation ".
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (LAe3v)
Most of the Econ faculty at George Mason University is conservative.
A bastion of sanity in otherwise deep blue Northern Virginia.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (LAe3v)
Most of the Econ faculty at George Mason University is conservative.
A bastion of sanity in otherwise deep blue Northern Virginia.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (V+kmg)
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27 You want 1950s America
You'd take Italy West
You'll get Greece
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (8ZskC
But, but, but Cyprus
You'd take Italy West
You'll get Greece
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (8ZskC
But, but, but Cyprus
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (n6Nt0)
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As a member of that "Obama Generation" in age only (fuck the SCOAMF) I keep telling people "you just don't understand how little I'm willing to work for." (Note these aren't people I'm negotiating any salary with, they're people who I'm trying to explain my poor job outlook to. That is that I'm fairly certain it's not because I'm asking to much money.)
Granted some of that is because my wife makes enough money (and we've scrimped to keep our standard of living OK) that I can afford to work for less.
But also I know that even $50k a year is probably not a salary one should hope for.
(And yes Bannion, I know: Bioethics... blah blah blah. But worth noting: this includes my poor outlook for science work too.)
Granted some of that is because my wife makes enough money (and we've scrimped to keep our standard of living OK) that I can afford to work for less.
But also I know that even $50k a year is probably not a salary one should hope for.
(And yes Bannion, I know: Bioethics... blah blah blah. But worth noting: this includes my poor outlook for science work too.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (U8W/7)
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If only our 20something women looked like they came from Italy West
Minus the mustaches of course
Minus the mustaches of course
Posted by: navypopojojo at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (vJWAK)
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I was on yahoo finance this morning and they mentioned that according to
Q values, stock market is way overprices. Also, QE was a fact.
It was a factor in the sense that overpricing stockvalues was the entire point of QE insofar as Bernanke claimed it would start some virtuous cycle of purchasing because people '*felt* wealthier which would lead to higher stock values and on and on.
Q values, stock market is way overprices. Also, QE was a fact.
It was a factor in the sense that overpricing stockvalues was the entire point of QE insofar as Bernanke claimed it would start some virtuous cycle of purchasing because people '*felt* wealthier which would lead to higher stock values and on and on.
Posted by: Methos at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (ZbV+0)
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FWIW, Tyler Cowen isn't a conservative or an independent, either. He's a Liberaltarian with some fiscally responsible ideas and some lunatic leftist ideas on social/immigration topics, like his blogmate Alex. I've been reading MR for almost 10 years and they are (along with Don Boudreaux and Cafe Hayek) the impetus that made me renounce all ties to either small "i: or big "L" Libertarianism. The ideology is radical leftwing bullshit wrapped in fiscally conservative camouflage.
Posted by: skh.pcola at May 18, 2015 03:57 PM (qfLzS)
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Writing in the New York Times this weekend, economist, author, and
blogger Tyler Cowen says that we might need to get used to the idea that
the economy will continue to underperform our expectations.
Expectations? It's meeting MY expectations.
The Hail Barack Cocksuckers' Chorus might have expected more, but I didn't.
blogger Tyler Cowen says that we might need to get used to the idea that
the economy will continue to underperform our expectations.
Expectations? It's meeting MY expectations.
The Hail Barack Cocksuckers' Chorus might have expected more, but I didn't.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 03:57 PM (oVJmc)
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Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (659DL)
How could you forget to mention jacking with a sixth to a fifth of the nations economy with Obamacare?
In fairness though, that was Reid and Pelosi, but hey, all those storefronts in low income neighborhoods have OBAMACARE in channel letters, so that's good enough for me.
How could you forget to mention jacking with a sixth to a fifth of the nations economy with Obamacare?
In fairness though, that was Reid and Pelosi, but hey, all those storefronts in low income neighborhoods have OBAMACARE in channel letters, so that's good enough for me.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:57 PM (xSCb6)
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"
speaking of J Lo and her butt... still awesome looking.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (AkOaV)"
Nope
Still weirdly out of proportion. Face is nice, though.
speaking of J Lo and her butt... still awesome looking.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (AkOaV)"
Nope
Still weirdly out of proportion. Face is nice, though.
Posted by: revolting peasant at May 18, 2015 03:57 PM (ENHaG)
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I love the lowering the bar.
Rather than ask, "What could have been done differently" the response is "Oh, it must be an institutional shift."
Bullshit.
This is directly related to Porkuluous / TARP / The new banking regs, etc. Cut the f*cking red tape and get the government out of the way and the economy will come back.
But that would involve the government releasing some of the power it had stolen, so it's not going to happen.
Rather than ask, "What could have been done differently" the response is "Oh, it must be an institutional shift."
Bullshit.
This is directly related to Porkuluous / TARP / The new banking regs, etc. Cut the f*cking red tape and get the government out of the way and the economy will come back.
But that would involve the government releasing some of the power it had stolen, so it's not going to happen.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (IPzoI)
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All these clowns that write about the economy have confused the word "expectations" with 'magical thinking'.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:49 PM (xSCb6)
My expectations were that it will continue to suck ass. So, expectations met and possibly exceeded.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 03:49 PM (xSCb6)
My expectations were that it will continue to suck ass. So, expectations met and possibly exceeded.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (2Ojst)
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But also I know that even $50k a year is probably not a salary one should hope for.
(And yes Bannion, I know: Bioethics... blah blah blah. But worth noting: this includes my poor outlook for science work too.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (U8W/7)
Triple Venti Latte with two raw sugar please.
(And yes Bannion, I know: Bioethics... blah blah blah. But worth noting: this includes my poor outlook for science work too.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 03:56 PM (U8W/7)
Triple Venti Latte with two raw sugar please.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (V+kmg)
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"Obama wanted to transform America into a European country."
Where they do things right. Like Greece.
Where they do things right. Like Greece.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (LA7Cm)
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Relatedly as I told our very own CAC. Don't plan on 2020 if the R's blow it (or perhaps even if they win.)
We may not make it that far. And i'm not talking about secession (as he assumed.)
When IL finally gives up playing "musical debt" expect the real pain to begin.
We may not make it that far. And i'm not talking about secession (as he assumed.)
When IL finally gives up playing "musical debt" expect the real pain to begin.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (U8W/7)
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Lady Liberty has hit menopause.
Watch out for the hot flashes.
Watch out for the hot flashes.
Posted by: wooga at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (g+Td3)
Posted by: phreshone at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (LoIJo)
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It may be a miserable time to be an American but at least we have Rap Music to remember fondly.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (oDCMR)
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Who knew that electing a Marxist community organizer for president wouldn't work out too well for the country?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (FsuaD)
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>>It was a factor in the sense that overpricing stockvalues was the entire point of QE insofar as Bernanke claimed it would start some virtuous cycle of purchasing because people '*felt* wealthier which would lead to higher stock values and on and on
Valid. But still f'd up.
It's a mess though because where else can you put your money? If you put it in the bank, it's not making anything. So everybody is kind of stuck with stocks.
Remember when your savings accounts were making 4-5%? Good times.
Valid. But still f'd up.
It's a mess though because where else can you put your money? If you put it in the bank, it's not making anything. So everybody is kind of stuck with stocks.
Remember when your savings accounts were making 4-5%? Good times.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (21T44)
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7 We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
In all seriousness, many of the moonbats I know think that "jobs" like this are real jobs and enough of them can be created to lift the world out of recession.
Every person can get aprofitless time-wasting do-gooder freebie job-cation funded by leftist nonprofits to go somewhere in the world to help the Noble Savages learn white hipster values.
An entire economy based on people being dilettantes!
It can succeed! It will succeed!
Posted by: Jane D'oh
In all seriousness, many of the moonbats I know think that "jobs" like this are real jobs and enough of them can be created to lift the world out of recession.
Every person can get a
An entire economy based on people being dilettantes!
It can succeed! It will succeed!
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (jBuUi)
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finally something to cheer about.
we have stuffed our pockets just in time And we don't have to worry anymore about those icky middle americans coming to party in the same vacation spots anymore.
we have stuffed our pockets just in time And we don't have to worry anymore about those icky middle americans coming to party in the same vacation spots anymore.
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (nqBYe)
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Crap
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (jBuUi)
75
Take away the high taxes and oppressive regulatory burden, and we'll all be amazed on how quickly the economy would turn around.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (/HX7u)
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What are you h8ters talking about? The economy is doing great!
Posted by: Every DC Bureaucrat at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (78TbK)
77
The States of Obamastan
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (7Kbxu)
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Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?
Just a guess but it seems like they have only been able to rig the unemployment numbers for as long as the 'workforce non-participation' numbers are large and useful.
There may be a fear that the in the near future, the real unemployment numbers will be harder to hide.
Just a guess but it seems like they have only been able to rig the unemployment numbers for as long as the 'workforce non-participation' numbers are large and useful.
There may be a fear that the in the near future, the real unemployment numbers will be harder to hide.
Posted by: some random meathead at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (Qgr71)
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Who knew that electing a Marxist community organizer for president wouldn't work out too well for the country?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (FsuaD)
One look at his grades in college and we should have known...
Oh... yeah...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (FsuaD)
One look at his grades in college and we should have known...
Oh... yeah...
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (BZAd3)
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What does it say about me that I think Cowen's projections are wildly optimistic?
Posted by: troyriser at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (S08gh)
Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (zoehZ)
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This "recovery" has been the weirdest thing. It's like we never had a recovery, we just went back to normal 3% growth.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (mwcEF)
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What does it say about me that I think Cowen's projections are wildly optimistic?
That you *might* be cynical enough?
That you *might* be cynical enough?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (kff5f)
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Well, 2% growth...
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (mwcEF)
85
I think you ought to swap out her Frisbee for a razor edged boomerang.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (wAQA5)
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What are you h8ters talking about? The economy is doing great!
Posted by:Every Three Our of Four DC Bureaucrats at May 18, 2015 04:00 PM (78TbK)
FIFY
Posted by:
FIFY
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (V+kmg)
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79 Who knew that electing a Marxist community organizer for president wouldn't work out too well for the country?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (FsuaD)
One look at his grades in college and we should have known...
Oh... yeah...
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (BZAd3)
I'm betting gentleman's Cs pretty much across the board, considering he's not that bright and has the work ethic of a frozen slug.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:59 PM (FsuaD)
One look at his grades in college and we should have known...
Oh... yeah...
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (BZAd3)
I'm betting gentleman's Cs pretty much across the board, considering he's not that bright and has the work ethic of a frozen slug.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (2Ojst)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 03:58 PM (V+kmg)
Used to be if you came to my house I'd have made you a nice coffee. But, I stopped mucking with French press some time back when our coffee budget got replaced with "Dunkin Donuts."
Additionally, do not think I haven't sunk that low yet old friend.
Oh I have.
Here's the secret no one wants to tell you: even minimum wage shit jobs are getting had to come by. And mind you, while it may be a bit out of date I worked at a McD's from 15 to 20, so I've got some experience there.
Used to be if you came to my house I'd have made you a nice coffee. But, I stopped mucking with French press some time back when our coffee budget got replaced with "Dunkin Donuts."
Additionally, do not think I haven't sunk that low yet old friend.
Oh I have.
Here's the secret no one wants to tell you: even minimum wage shit jobs are getting had to come by. And mind you, while it may be a bit out of date I worked at a McD's from 15 to 20, so I've got some experience there.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (U8W/7)
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"t may be a miserable time to be an American but at least we have Rap Music to remember fondly."
Hey, and how 'bout that Chrissy Teigen.
Breeding stock for the sub-genius remnants of society.
Hey, and how 'bout that Chrissy Teigen.
Breeding stock for the sub-genius remnants of society.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (VPLuQ)
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We're hiring!
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (ecDRv)
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I was told we could keep our anemic fake growth?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (o68RC)
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This "recovery" has been the weirdest thing. It's like we never had a recovery, we just went back to normal 3% growth.
You misspelled "net negative."
You misspelled "net negative."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (oDCMR)
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To me, it just seems like I keep waiting for something good to suddenly happen and things will be the way they're supposed to be in the greatest country on earth.
It's been years.
It's been years.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 04:02 PM (BZAd3)
95
Get used to it. At least we'll keep you around.........for now.
Posted by: Robot workers at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (LAe3v)
Don't forget, no raises until we can have sex with you.
Posted by: Robot workers at May 18, 2015 03:53 PM (LAe3v)
Don't forget, no raises until we can have sex with you.
Posted by: wooga at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (g+Td3)
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But also I know that even $50k a year is probably not a salary one should hope for.
***
Isn't $50k/year how much welfare pays in PA?
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Isn't $50k/year how much welfare pays in PA?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (78TbK)
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lo,l in a few short years we went from American powerhouse in so many ways
to American mickey mouse.
fundamentally transformed alright.
hooray for fair.
to American mickey mouse.
fundamentally transformed alright.
hooray for fair.
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (nqBYe)
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"Obama wanted to transform America into a European country. Well, he got his wish. Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?"
Alex, I'll take "Self-Answering Questions" for a thousand.
Alex, I'll take "Self-Answering Questions" for a thousand.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (nqiq9)
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That trumpet sounds article in Drudge yesterday was freaky.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (0HooB)
102
Some wrapper I never heard of got shot by some non cops.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (o68RC)
103
Beyonce and J-Lo's butts stink for a long time?
Posted by: Idiocracy : Movie? or Prophecy? at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (Qgr71)
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The Ming Doctrine: "let's just say they'll be satisfied with less"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (uMmii)
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Remember when your savings accounts were making 4-5%? Good times.
It's easier to encourage spending when there is no incentive to save. After all, money just sitting around doesn't do anything. You're hoarding it.
It's easier to encourage spending when there is no incentive to save. After all, money just sitting around doesn't do anything. You're hoarding it.
Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (GgxVX)
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As an offshoot, Yahoo News is so comically over the top biased towards the Left, I almost feel like I'm reading the Onion.
My hope was the internet would break up the liberal monopoly of the big networks, but if anything, liberal bias in news is much worse now that it was 20 years ago.
My hope was the internet would break up the liberal monopoly of the big networks, but if anything, liberal bias in news is much worse now that it was 20 years ago.
Posted by: McAdams at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (b1rYH)
107
Who knew he would cock up everything and the bad guys would end up with slave girls and Ramadi? This is some serious retardation.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (oDCMR)
108
>>She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Al Gore and Hillary are arriving in Hell on a private jet. I believe that will cover your conditions.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Al Gore and Hillary are arriving in Hell on a private jet. I believe that will cover your conditions.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (sQzB6)
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In short, not only in the economy in the ditch, Obama may very well have ruined it permanently.
Pretty much, yeah. I know lots of small business owners who would love to hire somebody. But the motivation in the middle class wage area is non-existent. Maybe because there's zero stigma attached to those EBT cards. Hell, there's ads in the markets for those things, oddly in Spanish. Right next to the whooping cough shots sign.
We're importing people to take the jobs of those who would like to work, and then when the next wave comes in, give those guys welfare too. California is a perfect model of how boned the rest of the country will be by the end of the decade.
Jerry Brown for presnit!
Pretty much, yeah. I know lots of small business owners who would love to hire somebody. But the motivation in the middle class wage area is non-existent. Maybe because there's zero stigma attached to those EBT cards. Hell, there's ads in the markets for those things, oddly in Spanish. Right next to the whooping cough shots sign.
We're importing people to take the jobs of those who would like to work, and then when the next wave comes in, give those guys welfare too. California is a perfect model of how boned the rest of the country will be by the end of the decade.
Jerry Brown for presnit!
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (sH832)
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As Glenn Reynolds is so fond of saying... something that can't go on forever, won't go on forever.
Europe was only able to become a socialist purgatory after WWII because the US was and is picking up the largest costs for its defense. Now that the US government (and a considerable portion of the US population) has decided they want in on that sweet, sweet free stuff action that the rest of the world is on, the world cannot afford for the gravy train to continue.
It is going to be ugly, though, as people's delusions are disabused by reality.
Europe was only able to become a socialist purgatory after WWII because the US was and is picking up the largest costs for its defense. Now that the US government (and a considerable portion of the US population) has decided they want in on that sweet, sweet free stuff action that the rest of the world is on, the world cannot afford for the gravy train to continue.
It is going to be ugly, though, as people's delusions are disabused by reality.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (OrI3J)
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Bernie Sanders is going to turn this around!
Posted by: All the Idiots on Facebook
.......................
Right as soon as he's finished gargling.
Bernie Sanders is going to turn this around!
Posted by: All the Idiots on Facebook
.......................
Right as soon as he's finished gargling.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (wAQA5)
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Here's the thing... this is the trend.
But this did not begin with the election of Obama (although he certainly helped speed it up).
Are some "natural forces" at play? Sure. Cheaper labor abroad, increased efficiency, better technologies, etc.
But at some point, massive debt, massive regulations, a business environment that discourages discourages innovation and entrepreneurs leads to a situation in which *real* economic growth (as opposed to "economic growth by government spending) becomes near impossible. Yes, we may have some "good" quarters here and there, but the trend line of continued, sustained growth begins to stall. Maybe not truly reversing itself, but flat lining.
And that's where we are.
So to many of us millennials, blaming it on Obama or Bush is kind of... disingenuous.
We saw our grandparents live in a time where no matter what you did for a living or where you invested your money -- stock market, housing, bonds, whatever) or even if you didn't invest any money, you did pretty well in life. Owned a house, a car, a TV, etc.
We saw our parents basically continue on that trend (with diminishing returns) until a lot of them got slightly to majorly boned in the stock market and housing markets in the '99-'09 period.
...And now we enter the workplace and see that no matter what we do, the majority of our money goes to taxes, compliance costs, forced monopolies (like the cable company or water company or whatever) and our standard of living doesn't seem to be improving as we age and make more money.
So, anyways, yeah. Some disjointed thoughts there, but ask anyone in their 20s or 30s what they think about their economic future -- poll after poll has shown that people are not very optimistic.
But this did not begin with the election of Obama (although he certainly helped speed it up).
Are some "natural forces" at play? Sure. Cheaper labor abroad, increased efficiency, better technologies, etc.
But at some point, massive debt, massive regulations, a business environment that discourages discourages innovation and entrepreneurs leads to a situation in which *real* economic growth (as opposed to "economic growth by government spending) becomes near impossible. Yes, we may have some "good" quarters here and there, but the trend line of continued, sustained growth begins to stall. Maybe not truly reversing itself, but flat lining.
And that's where we are.
So to many of us millennials, blaming it on Obama or Bush is kind of... disingenuous.
We saw our grandparents live in a time where no matter what you did for a living or where you invested your money -- stock market, housing, bonds, whatever) or even if you didn't invest any money, you did pretty well in life. Owned a house, a car, a TV, etc.
We saw our parents basically continue on that trend (with diminishing returns) until a lot of them got slightly to majorly boned in the stock market and housing markets in the '99-'09 period.
...And now we enter the workplace and see that no matter what we do, the majority of our money goes to taxes, compliance costs, forced monopolies (like the cable company or water company or whatever) and our standard of living doesn't seem to be improving as we age and make more money.
So, anyways, yeah. Some disjointed thoughts there, but ask anyone in their 20s or 30s what they think about their economic future -- poll after poll has shown that people are not very optimistic.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:04 PM (AkOaV)
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FWIW, Tyler Cowen isn't a conservative or an independent, either. He's a Liberaltarian with some fiscally responsible ideas and some lunatic leftist ideas on social/immigration topics, like his blogmate Alex.
Posted by: skh.pcola
And they're hot for Pigovian taxes as well, IIRC.
Pigovian taxes = taxes on anything Lefties can claim is a result of free-markets, aka 'externalities.'
Posted by: skh.pcola
And they're hot for Pigovian taxes as well, IIRC.
Pigovian taxes = taxes on anything Lefties can claim is a result of free-markets, aka 'externalities.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (uctT+)
114
Truth is we've had a recession for the last eight years covered over by the dumping of trillions in funny money to simulate activity.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (oVJmc)
115
I had a roommate in NY who struggled for years to establish a small investment company. He was doing okay, but he fell hook, line and sinker for Hopenchange.
As soon as Obama was elected, everything fell apart for him. He lost all his investors, couldn't get new ones, ended up homeless in Florida for awhile, selling blood and plasma to make ends meet.
In 2012, he stuck with Obama and to this day still blames racism for all criticism of Emperor Golfswing.
Some people can't be helped. Some stupid can't be undone.
As soon as Obama was elected, everything fell apart for him. He lost all his investors, couldn't get new ones, ended up homeless in Florida for awhile, selling blood and plasma to make ends meet.
In 2012, he stuck with Obama and to this day still blames racism for all criticism of Emperor Golfswing.
Some people can't be helped. Some stupid can't be undone.
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (7Kbxu)
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>>Take away the high taxes and oppressive regulatory burden, and we'll all be amazed on how quickly the economy would turn around.
Ding.
Some things have changed, automation and improvements in technology have taken some jobs that aren't coming back but getting rid of government overreach in many areas would have an enormous affect.
The premise that world has somehow changed so fundamentally in the last 6 years is just dumb.
Ding.
Some things have changed, automation and improvements in technology have taken some jobs that aren't coming back but getting rid of government overreach in many areas would have an enormous affect.
The premise that world has somehow changed so fundamentally in the last 6 years is just dumb.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (g1DWB)
117
My brand new DiL fresh out of college tried some of that fuckbat crazy shit within the walls of my home once.
Once.
I went off on her in the most calm, condescending, fact and reality-based rant designed to make her *feel* what I was saying and feel it for a long time.
I no longer play nicey nice with family. The result is that they keep their fucking pieholes shut and a couple of them ask me for more opinions.
YMMV
Once.
I went off on her in the most calm, condescending, fact and reality-based rant designed to make her *feel* what I was saying and feel it for a long time.
I no longer play nicey nice with family. The result is that they keep their fucking pieholes shut and a couple of them ask me for more opinions.
YMMV
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (xSCb6)
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There were a few brave souls back in 2008 who pointed out that it's not possible to enact a Euro-style welfare state without also ending up with, as a corollary, Euro-style endemic structural unemployment.
For some odd reason (cough) none of those voices were picked up or re-amplified by the American snooze media.
For some odd reason (cough) none of those voices were picked up or re-amplified by the American snooze media.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:06 PM (noWW6)
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Truth is we've had a recession for the last eight years covered over by the dumping of trillions in funny money to simulate activity.
Ans we would have already been well and truly in the soup but for North Dakota and Texas.
Ans we would have already been well and truly in the soup but for North Dakota and Texas.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 04:06 PM (659DL)
120
Stop free trade with third world countries. It's one thing to have free trade with Germany or Japan, where standards of living and wages are relatively high. In that case, the US has a level playing field. Not so much in Mexico.
Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2015 04:07 PM (1V9qu)
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You know who is hiring, besides ISIS?
These guys!!
http://tinyurl.com/kp6rut5
Warm Climate, lots of sunshine.
Gas is cheap too.
These guys!!
http://tinyurl.com/kp6rut5
Warm Climate, lots of sunshine.
Gas is cheap too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:07 PM (VPLuQ)
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Some people can't be helped. Some stupid can't be undone.
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (7Kbxu)
He should meet my husband's niece. Guaranteed love connection.
They could go to "Palestine" together and teach frisbee.
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (7Kbxu)
He should meet my husband's niece. Guaranteed love connection.
They could go to "Palestine" together and teach frisbee.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:07 PM (FsuaD)
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Who knew he would cock up everything and the bad guys would end up with slave girls and Ramadi?
***
Don't forget Jihadi beheadings in the Midwest, Iran seizing American ships, and $5/lb ground beef.
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Don't forget Jihadi beheadings in the Midwest, Iran seizing American ships, and $5/lb ground beef.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 04:07 PM (78TbK)
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If people were objectively told what the economy numbers really are/were and what our govt is really up to, I believe we would have a (hot) civil war by the end of the summer. The shitscreens are so thick that you can't cut or see through without spending an inordinate amount of time.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:07 PM (nqiq9)
125
Hmm, how come an economist ignores the negative effects of the lead boot of government overregulation on what was once a thriving economy with sectors that didn't depend upon kollidge degrees?
This shitty economy isn't happening for no reason.
I'd like to see him compare the numbers of regulations that businesses have to contend with today versus any point in the past.
This shitty economy isn't happening for no reason.
I'd like to see him compare the numbers of regulations that businesses have to contend with today versus any point in the past.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 04:08 PM (0HooB)
126
The problem with his 'great reset' theory of lower incomes is that prices of goods and services are not likewise resetting lower. We should be experiencing deflation right now, but we still have inflation. And its because the government won't stop the printing presses (or the electronic version thereof).
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at May 18, 2015 04:08 PM (O9qtX)
127
Beheading muslims? They pay you for that?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:08 PM (o68RC)
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115 I had a roommate in NY who struggled for years to establish a small investment company. He was doing okay, but he fell hook, line and sinker for Hopenchange.
As soon as Obama was elected, everything fell apart for him. He lost all his investors, couldn't get new ones, ended up homeless in Florida for awhile, selling blood and plasma to make ends meet.
In 2012, he stuck with Obama and to this day still blames racism for all criticism of Emperor Golfswing.
Some people can't be helped. Some stupid can't be undone.
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Has he become a gay hooker yet? If not, things are looking up for him.
As soon as Obama was elected, everything fell apart for him. He lost all his investors, couldn't get new ones, ended up homeless in Florida for awhile, selling blood and plasma to make ends meet.
In 2012, he stuck with Obama and to this day still blames racism for all criticism of Emperor Golfswing.
Some people can't be helped. Some stupid can't be undone.
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Has he become a gay hooker yet? If not, things are looking up for him.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:08 PM (oDCMR)
129
Beach volleyball maybe, but Frisbee?
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (wAQA5)
130
That trumpet sounds article in Drudge yesterday was freaky.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
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I saw (and heard the video) on American Thinker this morning. Creepy is not a good word.
It's almost a Biblical harbinger
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
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I saw (and heard the video) on American Thinker this morning. Creepy is not a good word.
It's almost a Biblical harbinger
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (/HX7u)
131
So when the QE bubble pops (and it will) where do you run to with your cash?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (oDCMR)
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Global market expansion has played a significant part in this reduction. All types of job are being outsourced and it's not just service type positions. THis now includes some positions that require intellectual capital. Those are the ones which should scare everyone to death as that's been the ultimate mainstay of our economic prowess. As we moved from manufacturing to a more skilled workforce, especially in industries such as financial services, we led the world in innovation, intellectual capital and the formulation of new products/services. But we've given that up as countries start to arbitrage factors such as regulatory and tax environments.
What the president has done is to effectively "outsource" the aforementioned for a good pathos argument. Tax the rich, means an insufferable situation for anyone he considers "rich", including corporations who are losing reasons to pay one of the highest tax rates in the developed world. The product coming out of universities is substandard as we lower the standards and push people into college that never belong there in the first place.
Summarily, the president has destroyed the future employment market by creating conditions which either dilute intellectual capital, attack specific industries for a good, throaty political meme (financial services, where Republicans are doing the same BTW) or create financial disincentives. I have never seen this amount of market dislocation in all my years. Ever- and that's stating alot.
What the president has done is to effectively "outsource" the aforementioned for a good pathos argument. Tax the rich, means an insufferable situation for anyone he considers "rich", including corporations who are losing reasons to pay one of the highest tax rates in the developed world. The product coming out of universities is substandard as we lower the standards and push people into college that never belong there in the first place.
Summarily, the president has destroyed the future employment market by creating conditions which either dilute intellectual capital, attack specific industries for a good, throaty political meme (financial services, where Republicans are doing the same BTW) or create financial disincentives. I have never seen this amount of market dislocation in all my years. Ever- and that's stating alot.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:10 PM (GGCsk)
133
Disallow EBT for ground beef purchases.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:10 PM (o68RC)
134
My son was telling a old veteran that LIVs on his college campus, when finding out he's an Afghan war vet, nearly always ask, "Did you kill anyone over there?"
The old vet said, "Tell them, 'Yes. All of them.'" Heh.
The old vet said, "Tell them, 'Yes. All of them.'" Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:10 PM (FsuaD)
135
"Beheading muslims? They pay you for that?"
The crazy part is that there is actually a Civil Service pay scale classification for that job.
The crazy part is that there is actually a Civil Service pay scale classification for that job.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:10 PM (VPLuQ)
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Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (oDCMR)
"Buy Gold"
--Ron Paul and Glenn Beck who totes have no investment in gold sellers, trust us.
"Buy Gold"
--Ron Paul and Glenn Beck who totes have no investment in gold sellers, trust us.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (U8W/7)
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So, anyways, yeah. Some disjointed thoughts there, but ask anyone in
their 20s or 30s what they think about their economic future -- poll
after poll has shown that people are not very optimistic.
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If there was an opposition party they might actually make the argument that Obama in 2012 or Clinton in 2016 is just a vote for more of THIS.
Of course JEB-anomics won't be any different then Hillary-anomics...
their 20s or 30s what they think about their economic future -- poll
after poll has shown that people are not very optimistic.
***
If there was an opposition party they might actually make the argument that Obama in 2012 or Clinton in 2016 is just a vote for more of THIS.
Of course JEB-anomics won't be any different then Hillary-anomics...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (78TbK)
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131 So when the QE bubble pops (and it will) where do you run to with your cash?
To the gun store for ammo
To the gun store for ammo
Posted by: navypopojojo at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (vJWAK)
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"ended up homeless in Florida"
Posted by: Kensington
That's my favorite part of the story. Can we hear another one? I'm not sleepy at all.
Posted by: Kensington
That's my favorite part of the story. Can we hear another one? I'm not sleepy at all.
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (XWo4d)
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To be fair, businesses have been slashing benefits for new hires constantly since at least 2004, long before the financial crisis.
Posted by: Jay at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (2h6DT)
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Scientists have figured out all the steps to make morphine and similar painkillers without using opium poppies, opening the door for home-brewed drugs and even wider abuse.
http://tinyurl.com/keo3brb
http://tinyurl.com/keo3brb
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (sWgE+)
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To me, it just seems like I keep waiting for something good to suddenly happen and things will be the way they're supposed to be in the greatest country on earth.
It won't.
Assuming "something good" happens, it will will not be sudden, and it will not be happenstance. It will be the result of policy and work.
But no one in a position to do it is willing to set the policy and do the work. As I said above, the way to fix things is to get the government the f*ck out of the way- but they won't. That would require giving the People some of our power back.
It won't.
Assuming "something good" happens, it will will not be sudden, and it will not be happenstance. It will be the result of policy and work.
But no one in a position to do it is willing to set the policy and do the work. As I said above, the way to fix things is to get the government the f*ck out of the way- but they won't. That would require giving the People some of our power back.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (kff5f)
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And the discussion to date leaves out the elephant in the room on both the macroeconomic front and the microeconomic front.
Which is the effect on economic growth and job growth of Obama's insane energy policies. Those alone are going to be sufficient to knock 1%-2% off of attainable economic results for the next decade or more. And they cannot be rapidly reversed by a successor.
(Reagan was able to lead an energy renaissance because Carter hadn't torn down America's energy infrastructure, merely mismanaged and disincentivized it. The left learned from that.)
In an earlier discussion, Obama's energy policies were referred to as being "scarcity as policy" intended to make it harder for ordinary Americans to get by economically without government assistance, and further locking in the talons of the perpetual-dependency state. I see no reason to demur from that suggestion now.
Which is the effect on economic growth and job growth of Obama's insane energy policies. Those alone are going to be sufficient to knock 1%-2% off of attainable economic results for the next decade or more. And they cannot be rapidly reversed by a successor.
(Reagan was able to lead an energy renaissance because Carter hadn't torn down America's energy infrastructure, merely mismanaged and disincentivized it. The left learned from that.)
In an earlier discussion, Obama's energy policies were referred to as being "scarcity as policy" intended to make it harder for ordinary Americans to get by economically without government assistance, and further locking in the talons of the perpetual-dependency state. I see no reason to demur from that suggestion now.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (noWW6)
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the fact that we're hanging in there as well as we are with all the govt-created malinvestment going on is frankly amazing
someone needs to learn about "sunk costs." we never REALLY corrected for the housing bubble, frankly.
someone needs to learn about "sunk costs." we never REALLY corrected for the housing bubble, frankly.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (mJUSR)
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"Economist: The Economy Might Stink For a Long Time to Come"
Sock manufacturinghardest softest hit.
Sock manufacturing
Posted by: Amalgamated Sock at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (1CroS)
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This "recovery" has been the weirdest thing. It's like we never had a recovery, we just went back to normal 3% growth.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (mwcEF)
We never went back to normal 3% growth.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 04:01 PM (mwcEF)
We never went back to normal 3% growth.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: UppityOrchid at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (mJUSR)
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Obamacare tax on cadillac health insurance at union controlled manufacturers, and big money banks hasn't taken effect yet and won't for another year or more. Increasing numbers of pension funds are running out of money to pay pensions.
So let's raise the minimum wage to speed things along.
So let's raise the minimum wage to speed things along.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (R+ISf)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (g1DWB)
Yeah, but at some point it's just too late to turn everything around, right?
I mean I'm sure there were Roman citizens sitting around in the last hundred years or so of their civilization saying "oh, it'll turn around. if we just cut tax rates or do xyz we have another 200 years of prosperity ahead of us."
How do you come back from the situation we are in, where its more financially wise to NOT work in many cases then it is TO work?
Yeah, but at some point it's just too late to turn everything around, right?
I mean I'm sure there were Roman citizens sitting around in the last hundred years or so of their civilization saying "oh, it'll turn around. if we just cut tax rates or do xyz we have another 200 years of prosperity ahead of us."
How do you come back from the situation we are in, where its more financially wise to NOT work in many cases then it is TO work?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (AkOaV)
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147 shit I said frankly twice
that has to be some kind of evil omen!
Posted by: UppityOrchid at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (mJUSR)
You must like frankly.
that has to be some kind of evil omen!
Posted by: UppityOrchid at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (mJUSR)
You must like frankly.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (2Ojst)
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I don't need no stinkin' job cause I got Obama's love and a taxpayer funded check monthly bitches. Oh yeah, Jeb can suck it, my vote is already bought.
I don't need no stinkin' job cause I got Obama's love and a taxpayer funded check monthly bitches. Oh yeah, Jeb can suck it, my vote is already bought.
Posted by: White Dindu Nuttin' at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (P330y)
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The Donald will fix it.....
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (vXqv3)
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I can't help wondering if it isn't a little darker than the article makes it seem. The next time the market crashes there will be no emergency remedies. We've already had QE and 6 years of 0% interest. Meanwhile both QE and 0% interest are forcing people into the market. They can't make any money in CDs or savings accounts.
Posted by: Caliban at May 18, 2015 04:12 PM (DrC22)
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In which the economy is shifting for a permanent reduction in output and wealth.
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Oh For Fucks Sake. (Yes I spelled it out).
The economy is not "shifting". Its being shifted.... By President McFucksticks, Paul Fuck Ton Krugman, The Federal Reserve, and Democrats and Socialists in general.
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Oh For Fucks Sake. (Yes I spelled it out).
The economy is not "shifting". Its being shifted.... By President McFucksticks, Paul Fuck Ton Krugman, The Federal Reserve, and Democrats and Socialists in general.
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (8XRCm)
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124
If people were objectively told what the economy numbers really are/were
and what our govt is really up to, I believe we would have a (hot)
civil war by the end of the summer
Seems like Neal Boortz used to say something like that , only he used removing the veil of payroll tax as the catalyst.
If people were objectively told what the economy numbers really are/were
and what our govt is really up to, I believe we would have a (hot)
civil war by the end of the summer
Seems like Neal Boortz used to say something like that , only he used removing the veil of payroll tax as the catalyst.
Posted by: some random meathead at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (Qgr71)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:05 PM (g1DWB)
It was my hope that things could turn around in 2012 or 2016 with the election of a true leader. That hope is gone. The two parties are the same.
118 There were a few brave souls back in 2008 who pointed out that it's not possible to enact a Euro-style welfare state without also ending up with, as a corollary, Euro-style endemic structural unemployment.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:06 PM (noWW6)
As usual Torque is spot on. I posted a job on Craigslist today. Out of curiosity, I filtered to see only today's job postings. 285 jobs posted just today. The U.S. government is paying people not to work.
It was my hope that things could turn around in 2012 or 2016 with the election of a true leader. That hope is gone. The two parties are the same.
118 There were a few brave souls back in 2008 who pointed out that it's not possible to enact a Euro-style welfare state without also ending up with, as a corollary, Euro-style endemic structural unemployment.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:06 PM (noWW6)
As usual Torque is spot on. I posted a job on Craigslist today. Out of curiosity, I filtered to see only today's job postings. 285 jobs posted just today. The U.S. government is paying people not to work.
Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (48QDY)
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Let's use EPA regulations to shut down coal fired plants, and shut down coal mining. That will help the economy and clean the air.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (R+ISf)
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131
So when the QE bubble pops (and it will) where do you run to with your cash?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (oDCMR)
Arable land, precious metals (lead and brass), skills, food.
So when the QE bubble pops (and it will) where do you run to with your cash?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (oDCMR)
Arable land, precious metals (lead and brass), skills, food.
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (ecDRv)
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ooops.... bad sock bad
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:13 PM (8XRCm)
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"Economist: The Economy Might Stink For a Long Time to Come"
I'm going to invest in air freshener. *lifts leg, farts*
I'm going to invest in air freshener. *lifts leg, farts*
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 04:14 PM (XWo4d)
161
Maybe a strategic investment in Vans Down By the River would be smart investment move?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 18, 2015 04:14 PM (oDCMR)
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You want 1950s America
You'd take Italy West
You'll get Greece
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (8ZskC)
But no Dolmas. Arugula and Spam will be plentiful though.
You want 1950s America
You'd take Italy West
You'll get Greece
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 03:51 PM (8ZskC)
But no Dolmas. Arugula and Spam will be plentiful though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2015 04:14 PM (lpeQC)
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"Economist: The Economy Might Stink For a Long Time to Come"
Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One please. Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One.
Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One please. Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One.
Posted by: Federal Clarion Call at May 18, 2015 04:15 PM (1CroS)
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Recovery is a myth. They've changed the way many statistics are reported to the point they are corrupt. You have to look at details to understand what's published and what is really occurring are two different things.
If you simply look at corporate earnings and stock prices there is no justification for the multiples.
If you simply look at corporate earnings and stock prices there is no justification for the multiples.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:15 PM (GGCsk)
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Someone here had a rather brilliant observation -the reason our stock market is still climbing upwards is that the rest of the world is going to hell in a hand basket and our stock market is benefiting from a flight to safety by the international rich.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 04:15 PM (RJMhd)
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I really don't think that politicians, as a group, are idiots. Their "service" has become their profession and they are there to get from it what they can.
But I also believe they know what potentially, is coming. They know our debt is unsustainable. They know that people are frustrated. They see how people are being incited against each other to divert their attention from the true source of their perpetual relegation to the lower class.
They know that eventually something is going to break and that if it breaks, it will break in the midst of another economic downturn. And can you imagine another downturn happening now, when so many have been left behind in the "recovery". Things could get messy, is my bet.
I also bet that they (the politicians) will be ready. They will not give up their place at the trough without resistance.
But I also believe they know what potentially, is coming. They know our debt is unsustainable. They know that people are frustrated. They see how people are being incited against each other to divert their attention from the true source of their perpetual relegation to the lower class.
They know that eventually something is going to break and that if it breaks, it will break in the midst of another economic downturn. And can you imagine another downturn happening now, when so many have been left behind in the "recovery". Things could get messy, is my bet.
I also bet that they (the politicians) will be ready. They will not give up their place at the trough without resistance.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 04:15 PM (BZAd3)
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Let's spend 163 million dollars sending DOJ lawyers into the inner city to explain to disaffected youth that the DOJ is going to stick up for them and remove the heavy jackboot of law enforcement from their neck. Let the entrepreneurial spirits roam free.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 18, 2015 04:16 PM (R+ISf)
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Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (78TbK)
Well that's the thing.
In all honesty, I haven't heard anyone even remotely close to the levers of power even suggest anything that would do anything close to fixing these now structural problems in our economy and system of government.
And there's no guarantee that returning to normal interest rates, massively gutting the fed gov and entitlements and regulations and compliance costs and etc etc would fix everything at this point. Best shot we have, I'd say, but no guarantee.
30-40 years ago, yes we had a great shot. But now?
Half the country pays no income tax. A very large minority of people in this country don't work and have no discernible skills.
Well that's the thing.
In all honesty, I haven't heard anyone even remotely close to the levers of power even suggest anything that would do anything close to fixing these now structural problems in our economy and system of government.
And there's no guarantee that returning to normal interest rates, massively gutting the fed gov and entitlements and regulations and compliance costs and etc etc would fix everything at this point. Best shot we have, I'd say, but no guarantee.
30-40 years ago, yes we had a great shot. But now?
Half the country pays no income tax. A very large minority of people in this country don't work and have no discernible skills.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
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"Stop free trade with third world countries. It's one thing to have free trade with Germany or Japan, where standards of living and wages are relatively high. In that case, the US has a level playing field. Not so much in Mexico."
What annoys the crap out of me is that the GOP have never wanted to point this out to ordinary working-class voters, how those workers are being forced into a rigged globalist game they can't win.
Nope. The Republicans want no part of that debate today, and they didn't want it back in the 1990s either, back when NAFTA, GATT and China MFN were all in the works. It was left to Ross Perot (!) to publicly argue for the corner of the American working class.
What annoys the crap out of me is that the GOP have never wanted to point this out to ordinary working-class voters, how those workers are being forced into a rigged globalist game they can't win.
Nope. The Republicans want no part of that debate today, and they didn't want it back in the 1990s either, back when NAFTA, GATT and China MFN were all in the works. It was left to Ross Perot (!) to publicly argue for the corner of the American working class.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:16 PM (noWW6)
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It is astonishing to see how our economy has essentially been downsized to Italy West, and yet the elites are so heavily invested in Obama they 1, try to ignore this fact, and 2, when forced to confront it, claim that policy is entirely irrelevant when dealing with such large-sized structural forces.
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They're still getting rich(er).
If you have a lot of money, there's plenty to be made in the stock market or through sweetheart deals with the government.
It's stupid middle class suckers like many of us who are unable to risk their shrinking dollar on investments while we watch our benefits go down and our salaries stay flat (if we're lucky).
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They're still getting rich(er).
If you have a lot of money, there's plenty to be made in the stock market or through sweetheart deals with the government.
It's stupid middle class suckers like many of us who are unable to risk their shrinking dollar on investments while we watch our benefits go down and our salaries stay flat (if we're lucky).
Posted by: Y-not at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Reggie Love at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (nqiq9)
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only he used removing the veil of payroll tax as the catalyst
Yes, make everyone write a check every month or quarterly.
Yes, make everyone write a check every month or quarterly.
Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (GgxVX)
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Monty, they are playing your tune. KaDOOM, it's not just a breakfast cereal.
Semi-related, that gubmint outfit that monitors vehicle recalls, deaths etc. announced today that the death toll for defective GM ignition switches has reached 104.
Ain't it great that the courts have ruled that GM ain't responsible for any claims, since those switches were installed by the old and busted GM, not the new hotness GM.
Keep buying those GM products, folks.
Semi-related, that gubmint outfit that monitors vehicle recalls, deaths etc. announced today that the death toll for defective GM ignition switches has reached 104.
Ain't it great that the courts have ruled that GM ain't responsible for any claims, since those switches were installed by the old and busted GM, not the new hotness GM.
Keep buying those GM products, folks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (IeHJQ)
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Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 04:11 PM (kff5f)
"And then a miracle happens" is not a good plan.
Sure it occurs every now and then and an economy gets a technological shot of steroids (the steam engine, the internet, etc.) But the left seems to be banking n that plan, which is about what you'd expect from idiots.
"And then a miracle happens" is not a good plan.
Sure it occurs every now and then and an economy gets a technological shot of steroids (the steam engine, the internet, etc.) But the left seems to be banking n that plan, which is about what you'd expect from idiots.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (U8W/7)
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When did Bruce Jenner's genitalia or lack thereof become a national concern?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (o68RC)
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Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:15 PM (GGCsk)
Just like when the Romans started sneaking cheaper metals in to their coins.
If can band-aid over the problem for a short period of time, but it doesn't fix anything.
Just like when the Romans started sneaking cheaper metals in to their coins.
If can band-aid over the problem for a short period of time, but it doesn't fix anything.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (AkOaV)
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republican partys number one problem they are older then democrats and are dying off when a white democrat dies he is replaced by two young minority democrats turning 18! by 2040 half the country will be minority but republican party has won the major it once since 1988 in 2004 when democrats and unions were ambivalent on immigration issue and they won't make that mistake again!
Posted by: captain*arizona at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (21Kgq)
178
[Haven't read the content yet, but may I just say for the record:]
It's a good thing that we reelected a jug-eared marxist.
It's a good thing that we reelected a jug-eared marxist.
Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at May 18, 2015 04:18 PM (XMX7O)
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Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (U8W/7)
Right. Relying on some black swan economic event to save us is not really a great plan.
Right. Relying on some black swan economic event to save us is not really a great plan.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:18 PM (AkOaV)
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The next time the market crashes there will be no emergency remedies
And someone named Caliban should have some idea of what will happen when things fall apart
Seriously entropy is always at work. Waiting out a cycle is no longer the answer - people need to HAUL ASS if we're going to salvage anything here.
And someone named Caliban should have some idea of what will happen when things fall apart
Seriously entropy is always at work. Waiting out a cycle is no longer the answer - people need to HAUL ASS if we're going to salvage anything here.
Posted by: UppityOrchid at May 18, 2015 04:18 PM (mJUSR)
181
Aaaand, captain*astroturf strikes again. Lovely.
Posted by: Y-not at May 18, 2015 04:19 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Reggie Love at May 18, 2015 04:19 PM (nqiq9)
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Yes, yes, that's all well and good, but we need to have a seemingly endless Greece-style bailout process with one of the States, where the debtors endlessly whine about the Nazi-ish bastards that amazingly give them $$$$ for their early retirements.......how soon can we expect that? *looks at watch, starts tapping foot petulantly*
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at May 18, 2015 04:19 PM (sCHw2)
184
Obama and the Left campaigned on increasing energy costs and training American to learn to live with less.
This is what that looks like.
This is what that looks like.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 04:19 PM (ZPrif)
185
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:16 PM (noWW6)
trade in and of itself is not a problem. It's usually, on the whole, a benefit. But when we have a country that through regulations, red tape and taxes makes it unprofitable to operate a business here, well...
trade in and of itself is not a problem. It's usually, on the whole, a benefit. But when we have a country that through regulations, red tape and taxes makes it unprofitable to operate a business here, well...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (AkOaV)
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Yes, make everyone write a check every month or quarterly.
Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (GgxVX)
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There would be goddamned riot in this country if folks had to pay the tax dude on monthly basis. Scrap witholding.
Also.... ever notice that April 15th is about 6 months removed from Federal elections in November. Coincidence?? Not.
Posted by: no good deed at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (GgxVX)
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There would be goddamned riot in this country if folks had to pay the tax dude on monthly basis. Scrap witholding.
Also.... ever notice that April 15th is about 6 months removed from Federal elections in November. Coincidence?? Not.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (JtwS4)
188
He must like Greek.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (o68RC)
189
Just like when the Romans started sneaking cheaper metals in to their coins.
If can band-aid over the problem for a short period of time, but it doesn't fix anything.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Punishment for making counterfeit coins in Roman times? The coins you made were melted down and poured down your throat. Sheesh, right?
If can band-aid over the problem for a short period of time, but it doesn't fix anything.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Punishment for making counterfeit coins in Roman times? The coins you made were melted down and poured down your throat. Sheesh, right?
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (XWo4d)
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Multiple logic errors at 177!! Multiple logic errors at 177!! Abort! Abort!!!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (V+kmg)
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"Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One please. Pivot to Investing in Infrastructure, Line One."
I caught a radio blurb the other day from a group calling itself "Rebuild California", and I figured it was an Astroturf front for the heavy construction contractors and the construction labor unions, and sure 'nuff, that's who they turn out to be.
Infrastructure is great stuff. The fundamental problem being that there are plenty of opportunities for grift when politicians control its funding, and when it goes to usual-suspects types such as the ones behind "Rebuild California".
That's what has given CA the likes of the SF Bay Bridge rebuild. Horribly behind schedule, massively over budget, and the goddamn thing now that it is ostensibly complete is absolutely rife with engineering and fabrication mistakes. It was meant to withstand the next Big One, and it may not even manage that.
I caught a radio blurb the other day from a group calling itself "Rebuild California", and I figured it was an Astroturf front for the heavy construction contractors and the construction labor unions, and sure 'nuff, that's who they turn out to be.
Infrastructure is great stuff. The fundamental problem being that there are plenty of opportunities for grift when politicians control its funding, and when it goes to usual-suspects types such as the ones behind "Rebuild California".
That's what has given CA the likes of the SF Bay Bridge rebuild. Horribly behind schedule, massively over budget, and the goddamn thing now that it is ostensibly complete is absolutely rife with engineering and fabrication mistakes. It was meant to withstand the next Big One, and it may not even manage that.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (wAQA5)
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They were saying 'the economy is back!1!!' at 2% growth.
They crowed over a single quarter at 4%.
Then it all collapsed again.
The Fed pressurized the system, but there is NOTHING going on outside the artificial pressures.
They crowed over a single quarter at 4%.
Then it all collapsed again.
The Fed pressurized the system, but there is NOTHING going on outside the artificial pressures.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (oVJmc)
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Republicans are just as guilty. Have you seen them do anything except berate the financial industry and engage in the same type of hypocrisy as Democrats.
"Wall Street" is the bogeyman, all almost one million employees are "crooks", it's a shameless loathsome industry, blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile the "crisis" was due to government meddling in the mortgage market and their ridiculous regulation around credit.
But "Wall Street: is evil. Sure.
Republicans use to be the party of industry. Now they're the party of crony capitalists who want them some cheap South American labor. That we ultimately pay for in destroyed communities, a debased culture and tax rates to pay for all the free stuff.
The entire party disgusts me. They're Democrats lite. Even THAT they can't be genuine in.
"Wall Street" is the bogeyman, all almost one million employees are "crooks", it's a shameless loathsome industry, blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile the "crisis" was due to government meddling in the mortgage market and their ridiculous regulation around credit.
But "Wall Street: is evil. Sure.
Republicans use to be the party of industry. Now they're the party of crony capitalists who want them some cheap South American labor. That we ultimately pay for in destroyed communities, a debased culture and tax rates to pay for all the free stuff.
The entire party disgusts me. They're Democrats lite. Even THAT they can't be genuine in.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (GGCsk)
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Posted by: captain*arizona at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (21Kgq)
Uh, maybe.
There's also the well documented trend that people become more conservative as they get older and make more money and have lived life longer.
But yeah, replacing the electorate is yet another way our betters in DC have boned us.
So, yay?
Uh, maybe.
There's also the well documented trend that people become more conservative as they get older and make more money and have lived life longer.
But yeah, replacing the electorate is yet another way our betters in DC have boned us.
So, yay?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (AkOaV)
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>>this is the trend
Unemployment was 4-5 percent (which is considered 'full' employment or used to be) during most of the bush years, and that wasn't long ago. I don't think this is the trend, except for the regulatory environment and all it takes is the right people in charge to pull back on that. All we need is a Reagan with some vision and will.
Obamacare, among other regulatory decision on the administration part, has basically killed hiring for years. The banking crisis didn't help, certainly.
>>we never REALLY corrected for the housing bubble, frankly.
This is true to some extent as well. The problem is, nobody wants to let the economy cycle through a small recession. They keep trying to fix everything, with QE's and low interest. I think a little pain in the short run is generally a better approach with fewer lasting consequences.
Unemployment was 4-5 percent (which is considered 'full' employment or used to be) during most of the bush years, and that wasn't long ago. I don't think this is the trend, except for the regulatory environment and all it takes is the right people in charge to pull back on that. All we need is a Reagan with some vision and will.
Obamacare, among other regulatory decision on the administration part, has basically killed hiring for years. The banking crisis didn't help, certainly.
>>we never REALLY corrected for the housing bubble, frankly.
This is true to some extent as well. The problem is, nobody wants to let the economy cycle through a small recession. They keep trying to fix everything, with QE's and low interest. I think a little pain in the short run is generally a better approach with fewer lasting consequences.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (lIU4e)
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Obamalaise
I am not putting that on my tuna sandwich. No.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (JtwS4)
*Raises hand*
Yoo hoo, over here big fella.
I'll take that off your hands........(ahem).
I am not putting that on my tuna sandwich. No.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (JtwS4)
*Raises hand*
Yoo hoo, over here big fella.
I'll take that off your hands........(ahem).
Posted by: Reggie Love at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (nqiq9)
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Someone postulated that the reason Stocks are going ups not that the stock value has increased.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (VPLuQ)
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"Shit. Hector's here. Who rubbed the jackass lamp?"
Did you seriously expect for me not to wipe?
Did you seriously expect for me not to wipe?
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (noWW6)
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Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (GGCsk)
Well, "wall street" is the epicenter of crony capitalism in this country. So I'm not a huge fan.
But yes, investors and banking are very important for free markets to work.
So... not sure what the answer is there.
Well, "wall street" is the epicenter of crony capitalism in this country. So I'm not a huge fan.
But yes, investors and banking are very important for free markets to work.
So... not sure what the answer is there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (AkOaV)
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I was at Lowe's this morning and saw a completely automatic key maker by the checkout. Great looking machine, just think of what other machines are coming. McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (rOQws)
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>>How do you come back from the situation we are in, where its more financially wise to NOT work in many cases then it is TO work?
Only when they are turned around. Reagan did it. Clinton, with some serious assistance from Congress did it. It can be done but it takes a will to do it.
We can either elect people with that will or sooner or later we will have a system that forces us to change in a ways similar to the throes Greece is going through right now. Hopefully, our population will not go full retard like the Greeks if we come to that crossroads.
It has always been financially better for some to not work rather than work. What Obama has done is ratchet that dial further left. We've got to start ratcheting back the other way.
But first we need to get government off the backs of business. The amount of regulation and cost we go through every year in my small company is astounding and it has governed our ability to grow and to hire. This is the default state of most companies in the US today. Fix this and the system will go a long way toward righting itself.
Only when they are turned around. Reagan did it. Clinton, with some serious assistance from Congress did it. It can be done but it takes a will to do it.
We can either elect people with that will or sooner or later we will have a system that forces us to change in a ways similar to the throes Greece is going through right now. Hopefully, our population will not go full retard like the Greeks if we come to that crossroads.
It has always been financially better for some to not work rather than work. What Obama has done is ratchet that dial further left. We've got to start ratcheting back the other way.
But first we need to get government off the backs of business. The amount of regulation and cost we go through every year in my small company is astounding and it has governed our ability to grow and to hire. This is the default state of most companies in the US today. Fix this and the system will go a long way toward righting itself.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: The Barrel at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (h4vJk)
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off lovely sock
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (nqiq9)
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The value of stocks expressed in dollars rises as the dollar falls.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:23 PM (o68RC)
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We're Japan. With ever shrinking birthrates.
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 04:23 PM (ZPrif)
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They crowed over a single quarter at 4%.
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Ummmm.... THAT 4% was an entry to account for all the new Obamacare monies sloshing into the economy.
That ONE.POSITIVE.QUARTER. of sunshine and unicorn farts was a journal entry.
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Ummmm.... THAT 4% was an entry to account for all the new Obamacare monies sloshing into the economy.
That ONE.POSITIVE.QUARTER. of sunshine and unicorn farts was a journal entry.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (8XRCm)
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McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin
I could roll with that. I like the self checkout at the grocery store.
Posted by: colin
I could roll with that. I like the self checkout at the grocery store.
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (XWo4d)
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Yay, Ace listens to Rush!
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (V+xAQ)
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Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:20 PM (8XRCm
You think like a conservative.
The LIVs are likely getting refunds or as they think of it "free money" (not "my money the government took as an interest free loan, like monsters.)
Why do you think people are floating the idea of a national sales tax with monthly "refund" checks (or quarterly or whatever).
It encourages the dependence on government money because the LIVs can't tell the difference.
You think like a conservative.
The LIVs are likely getting refunds or as they think of it "free money" (not "my money the government took as an interest free loan, like monsters.)
Why do you think people are floating the idea of a national sales tax with monthly "refund" checks (or quarterly or whatever).
It encourages the dependence on government money because the LIVs can't tell the difference.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (U8W/7)
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They're still getting rich(er).
If you have a lot of money, there's plenty to be made in the stock market or through sweetheart deals with the government.
It's stupid middle class suckers like many of us who are unable to risk their shrinking dollar on investments while we watch our benefits go down and our salaries stay flat (if we're lucky).
Posted by: Y-not at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (RWGcK)
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The elite have become heavily 'anti-patriotic' and 'internationalist' - why would they care what happens to the middle class?
If you have a lot of money, there's plenty to be made in the stock market or through sweetheart deals with the government.
It's stupid middle class suckers like many of us who are unable to risk their shrinking dollar on investments while we watch our benefits go down and our salaries stay flat (if we're lucky).
Posted by: Y-not at May 18, 2015 04:17 PM (RWGcK)
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The elite have become heavily 'anti-patriotic' and 'internationalist' - why would they care what happens to the middle class?
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (NUqwG)
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Yeah, the economy sucks.
It just sucks less than the rest of the world.
Once America throws off Shit Midas,
President Cruz can have the economy up and running like Reagan did in 2-3 years no problemo, if-
lame-ass losers in the Rep party don't knee cap him.
Hello Boneless, Turdle, McCain and the Gang of Whatever!
It just sucks less than the rest of the world.
Once America throws off Shit Midas,
President Cruz can have the economy up and running like Reagan did in 2-3 years no problemo, if-
lame-ass losers in the Rep party don't knee cap him.
Hello Boneless, Turdle, McCain and the Gang of Whatever!
Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (0cMkb)
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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (VPLuQ)
Some truth in that.
Money is running to "safe" spots with decent returns.
That happens to be the US stock market right now.
5 years ago it was US treasury bonds.
10 years ago it was the US housing market.
10 years before that it was the US stock market (namely tech stocks).
At some point, money will not be going to US institutions and will prop up bubbles overseas (ahem China)
Some truth in that.
Money is running to "safe" spots with decent returns.
That happens to be the US stock market right now.
5 years ago it was US treasury bonds.
10 years ago it was the US housing market.
10 years before that it was the US stock market (namely tech stocks).
At some point, money will not be going to US institutions and will prop up bubbles overseas (ahem China)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (AkOaV)
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shofar?
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:25 PM (nqBYe)
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Someone postulated that the reason Stocks are going ups not that the stock value has increased.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (VPLuQ)
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Pumping 2.5 BILLION a month into the market thru quantitative easing has that effect.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:21 PM (VPLuQ)
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Pumping 2.5 BILLION a month into the market thru quantitative easing has that effect.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:25 PM (8XRCm)
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We're Japan. With ever shrinking birthrates.
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 04:23 PM (ZPrif)
Hola,gringo amigo!!
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 04:23 PM (ZPrif)
Hola,
Posted by: Manuel Labor at May 18, 2015 04:25 PM (V+kmg)
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This is true to some extent as well. The problem is, nobody wants to let the economy cycle through a small recession. They keep trying to fix everything, with QE's and low interest. I think a little pain in the short run is generally a better approach with fewer lasting consequences.
This was true in 2008/2009. Had the bubble just been allowed to burst and the economy allowed to correct for it, we'd be out of this mess.
But TFG didn't want to "let a crisis go to waste."
NOW with 6 years of non-growth, and we *still* have a bunch of negative effects to sort through, it won't be a little pain in the short run. It'll be near-catastrophic pain for a long while.
Which makes it no less necessary, but you can see why politicians are doing their damnedest to avoid it.
This was true in 2008/2009. Had the bubble just been allowed to burst and the economy allowed to correct for it, we'd be out of this mess.
But TFG didn't want to "let a crisis go to waste."
NOW with 6 years of non-growth, and we *still* have a bunch of negative effects to sort through, it won't be a little pain in the short run. It'll be near-catastrophic pain for a long while.
Which makes it no less necessary, but you can see why politicians are doing their damnedest to avoid it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 04:26 PM (kff5f)
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At the Home Depot only the grizzled old guy could operate the key machine. The illiterate SJWs all inserted the blank backwards. You end up with a key that will open the car door but not turn the ignition.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:26 PM (o68RC)
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"I mean I'm sure there were Roman citizens sitting around in the last hundred years or so of their civilization saying "oh, it'll turn around. if we just cut tax rates or do xyz we have another 200 years of prosperity ahead of us.""
Do you like movies about gladiators?
"I mean I'm sure there were Roman citizens sitting around in the last hundred years or so of their civilization saying "oh, it'll turn around. if we just cut tax rates or do xyz we have another 200 years of prosperity ahead of us.""
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Posted by: Captain Over at May 18, 2015 04:26 PM (OD2ni)
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Don't read the headline on Drudge unless you *want* to suffer a rage stroke.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:26 PM (FsuaD)
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Prepare for unforeseen* consequences.
*Except that this "downturn" was anything but unforeseen, if certain people were listened to.
*Except that this "downturn" was anything but unforeseen, if certain people were listened to.
Posted by: G-Man Wannabe at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (X866z)
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Recently Ace introduced the name "shitty little grifter" for TFG. Since then I have not been able to get that phrase out of my head sung to Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Look at Little Sister."
Posted by: fly gal at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (nqiq9)
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We're Japan. With ever shrinking birthrates.
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Posted by: Costanza Defense
Nope. Brazil.
Brazil with nukes.
Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us.
Posted by: Costanza Defense
Nope. Brazil.
Brazil with nukes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (uctT+)
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I doubt it. Highly.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (AkOaV)
Doubt what?
President Cruz?
President Cruz can improve the economy within 2-3 years?
Doubt he will be knee-capped by lame-ass Republicans?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:24 PM (AkOaV)
Doubt what?
President Cruz?
President Cruz can improve the economy within 2-3 years?
Doubt he will be knee-capped by lame-ass Republicans?
Posted by: naturalfake at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (0cMkb)
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McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (rOQws)
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That certainly eliminates unnecessary human interaction. Soon all interaction will be by twits only.
Posted by: colin at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (rOQws)
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That certainly eliminates unnecessary human interaction. Soon all interaction will be by twits only.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
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>>Well, "wall street" is the epicenter of crony capitalism in this country. So I'm not a huge fan.
But yes, investors and banking are very important for free markets to work.
So... not sure what the answer is there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (AkOaV)
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The proof being what exactly?
The financial service sector is one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country. More so now after the crisis.
It's killing the entire country by tying up capital and limiting access to certain financial products that have always bee there too use. Ultimately that's hurting capital and capital investments.
There are very limited options the industry is being presented with.
Until a president, and Congress for that matter, who agrees and understand free, capitalistic markets, that won't change.
As a result the country and people will suffer.
But they can keep beating the bogeyman to distract from their incompetence.
But yes, investors and banking are very important for free markets to work.
So... not sure what the answer is there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (AkOaV)
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The proof being what exactly?
The financial service sector is one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country. More so now after the crisis.
It's killing the entire country by tying up capital and limiting access to certain financial products that have always bee there too use. Ultimately that's hurting capital and capital investments.
There are very limited options the industry is being presented with.
Until a president, and Congress for that matter, who agrees and understand free, capitalistic markets, that won't change.
As a result the country and people will suffer.
But they can keep beating the bogeyman to distract from their incompetence.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (GGCsk)
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We buy our own bonds with monopoly money. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (2Ojst)
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Obama wanted to transform America into a European country.
He hates Europe. Try "Third World dictatorship."
He hates Europe. Try "Third World dictatorship."
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (ZKzrr)
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Dammit, beaten to the punch!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (2Ojst)
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Obama wanted to transform us into Pokeeston.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (FsuaD)
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That certainly eliminates unnecessary human interaction. Soon all interaction will be by twits only.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
Given how rude and clueless the service sector crowd is these days, this will be an improvement.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
Given how rude and clueless the service sector crowd is these days, this will be an improvement.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (V+kmg)
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Bob Brinker was interviewing a guy on his show this weekend about the FED. They both agreed that there is zero inflation and we are near full employment.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (W5DcG)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (g1DWB)
Reagan, who I respect a lot and whose Goldwater speech (a time for choosing) was (in my humble opinion) the best political speech in US history, still presided over a growing federal government, growing regulations, and our transition from a savings-based economy to a debt-based economy.
Yes, Nixon's yanking us off the gold standard was a culprit. Yes, Carters disastrous policies led to a lot of pent up demand, etc etc etc, but... it was a temporary reprieve but Reagans time in DC did not change the trajectory of our country and economy.
And Clinton just happened to get lucky presiding during the tech boom, before the bubble burst.
Reagan, who I respect a lot and whose Goldwater speech (a time for choosing) was (in my humble opinion) the best political speech in US history, still presided over a growing federal government, growing regulations, and our transition from a savings-based economy to a debt-based economy.
Yes, Nixon's yanking us off the gold standard was a culprit. Yes, Carters disastrous policies led to a lot of pent up demand, etc etc etc, but... it was a temporary reprieve but Reagans time in DC did not change the trajectory of our country and economy.
And Clinton just happened to get lucky presiding during the tech boom, before the bubble burst.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (AkOaV)
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Kerry has good horse sense.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (o68RC)
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Given how rude and clueless the service sector crowd is these days, this will be an improvement.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (V+kmg)
What the fuck are you talking about?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (V+kmg)
What the fuck are you talking about?
Posted by: Comcast at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (2Ojst)
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"I could roll with that. I like the self checkout at the grocery store."
That's how I order my sandwich at WaWa. The order is correct evry time.
"I could roll with that. I like the self checkout at the grocery store."
That's how I order my sandwich at WaWa. The order is correct evry time.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (OD2ni)
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I like the self checkout also. If only you could flog and fire their employees on the way out.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:30 PM (o68RC)
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I'm looking forward to my new life as a hunter-gatherer.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:30 PM (wAQA5)
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Over 96 million people are out of the job market. There is no way that particular piece of history is being made due to record retirements.
That's a myth.
We are nowhere near full employment. We've just screwed with the math tp make it look that way.
That's a myth.
We are nowhere near full employment. We've just screwed with the math tp make it look that way.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:31 PM (GGCsk)
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Why don't we try some radical idea, like all the government rent-seekers try unemployment for a while, so the rest of us can create some value (instead of the Fed doing stupid tricks trying to make people "feel wealthy.")
Yeah, I suspect that taking a hatchet to 80% of federal "jobs" might be the best stimulus "Evah".
Yeah, I suspect that taking a hatchet to 80% of federal "jobs" might be the best stimulus "Evah".
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at May 18, 2015 04:31 PM (laMCB)
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What the fuck are you talking about?
Posted by: Comcast at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (2Ojst)
I'm talking about your fucking attitude problem on Saturday when you were here.
And yes, I'll be happy to fill out your customer service survey.
Posted by: Comcast at May 18, 2015 04:29 PM (2Ojst)
I'm talking about your fucking attitude problem on Saturday when you were here.
And yes, I'll be happy to fill out your customer service survey.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:31 PM (V+kmg)
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Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (GGCsk)
The proof of what?
Yes, they're highly regulated. The cronies in the industry work with lobbyists and congressmen to write the regulations.
JP Morgan and a handful of the other TBTF banks, for example, are the ones who launder the money from the fed to the treasury when the fed monetizes our debt. They get a cut.
They also manage EBT cards, and they get a cut.
Laws are written to benefit the handful of big banks at the expense of the smaller community banks. Just like they are in every other industry.
Except theres a lot more money at play in the financial industry, and it's so fucking complicated to follow and understand that they get away with shit other industries could only dream of.
The proof of what?
Yes, they're highly regulated. The cronies in the industry work with lobbyists and congressmen to write the regulations.
JP Morgan and a handful of the other TBTF banks, for example, are the ones who launder the money from the fed to the treasury when the fed monetizes our debt. They get a cut.
They also manage EBT cards, and they get a cut.
Laws are written to benefit the handful of big banks at the expense of the smaller community banks. Just like they are in every other industry.
Except theres a lot more money at play in the financial industry, and it's so fucking complicated to follow and understand that they get away with shit other industries could only dream of.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:32 PM (AkOaV)
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"Only difference is we are importing foreigners at 1-2M a year to replace us. "
Can't wait till we get American tentacle Pron, without sub-titles.
Can't wait till we get American tentacle Pron, without sub-titles.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:32 PM (VPLuQ)
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And Clinton just happened to get lucky presiding during the tech boom, before the bubble burst.
Yes, but. I give the devil his due. A lot of what an economy needs is to just not be actively f*cked by government. I give Clinton credit for staying out of the way.
And Clinton just happened to get lucky presiding during the tech boom, before the bubble burst.
Yes, but. I give the devil his due. A lot of what an economy needs is to just not be actively f*cked by government. I give Clinton credit for staying out of the way.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:32 PM (JtwS4)
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124 If people were objectively told what the economy numbers really are/were and what our govt is really up to, I believe we would have a (hot) civil war by the end of the summer. The shitscreens are so thick that you can't cut or see through without spending an inordinate amount of time.
Nah. The 52% would mostly still not get it and/or wouldn't care.
Nah. The 52% would mostly still not get it and/or wouldn't care.
Posted by: nope at May 18, 2015 04:32 PM (hKyl0)
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I was at Lowe's this morning and saw a completely automatic key maker by
the checkout. Great looking machine, just think of what other machines
are coming. McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto
ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (rOQws)
I drafted a patent application for a tech that essentially turned your phone into that kiosk, where the order process was just reduced to transmitting your order (endless meal/product customizations). Add that to electronic payment, and you have no need for those that do not habla at the window.
It's coming.
I was at Lowe's this morning and saw a completely automatic key maker by
the checkout. Great looking machine, just think of what other machines
are coming. McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto
ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (rOQws)
I drafted a patent application for a tech that essentially turned your phone into that kiosk, where the order process was just reduced to transmitting your order (endless meal/product customizations). Add that to electronic payment, and you have no need for those that do not habla at the window.
It's coming.
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 04:32 PM (ecDRv)
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Can't take beer through the self checkout at the store I go to.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (wAQA5)
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And yes, I'll be happy to fill out your customer service survey.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:31 PM (V+kmg)
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wow...... nice picture you get. shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:31 PM (V+kmg)
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wow...... nice picture you get. shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: Comcast service Tech at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
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233 Obama wanted to transform us into Pokeeston.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (FsuaD)
Are there the same as Pokemon cards?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:28 PM (FsuaD)
Are there the same as Pokemon cards?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (QyBQv)
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...send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes...
****
Would at least give said yutes something to do while waiting in line at the employment office applying for a Harf Job (TM)
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Would at least give said yutes something to do while waiting in line at the employment office applying for a Harf Job (TM)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (NeFrd)
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wow...... nice picture you get. shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: Comcast service Tech at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
Broadcast is free and uncompressed.
wow...... nice picture you get. shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: Comcast service Tech at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
Broadcast is free and uncompressed.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (oVJmc)
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What Drudge headline?
John Kerry, Vietnam War Veteran, wants more internet laws?
Or, "He's got a gun" intruder terrorizes elementary school.
John Kerry, Vietnam War Veteran, wants more internet laws?
Or, "He's got a gun" intruder terrorizes elementary school.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (R+ISf)
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Romney (bear with me here) talked about how people get into the mindset of the way it is now will continue forever.
That's at play here.
We can pretty quickly turn the economy around.
Have to throw out the crooks though.
That's at play here.
We can pretty quickly turn the economy around.
Have to throw out the crooks though.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (VAXnE)
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Really, I thought it was stinky 'cause.....Booooooooosh!
Posted by: Mr. KnowItAll at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (uJK1E)
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wow...... nice picture you get. shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by: Comcast service Tech at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
Hey, listen, I know you're just a Comcast independent contractor and your vehicle is your life. It's how you pay your mortgage.
But I totes did not have anything to do with the 3 lbs of sugar in your gas tank.
Posted by: Comcast service Tech at May 18, 2015 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
Hey, listen, I know you're just a Comcast independent contractor and your vehicle is your life. It's how you pay your mortgage.
But I totes did not have anything to do with the 3 lbs of sugar in your gas tank.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (V+kmg)
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I watched McDonalds try three times to get a customers order correct.
Each time, when handed the bag, she opened the wrappers, and sent it back.
Something simple, like no onions, or similar to that.
Three.times.
And the manager was oblivious to all this.
Should have comp'ed the entire meal right then and there.
Each time, when handed the bag, she opened the wrappers, and sent it back.
Something simple, like no onions, or similar to that.
Three.times.
And the manager was oblivious to all this.
Should have comp'ed the entire meal right then and there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:35 PM (VPLuQ)
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The rent is too damn high!
Also I never got to say in the last thread, Hillary Lied, People Died.
Also I never got to say in the last thread, Hillary Lied, People Died.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2015 04:35 PM (ODxAs)
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But I totes did not have anything to do with the 3 lbs of sugar in your gas tank.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (V+kmg)
Or the banana up your tailpipe.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (V+kmg)
Or the banana up your tailpipe.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (QyBQv)
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Can't take beer through the self checkout at the store I go to.
You can at Kroger, but it takes so long for someone to wander over to check your ID before the machine will let you pay you'll seriously consider just putting the damn thing back so you can get everything out to the car before the ice cream's ruined.
You can at Kroger, but it takes so long for someone to wander over to check your ID before the machine will let you pay you'll seriously consider just putting the damn thing back so you can get everything out to the car before the ice cream's ruined.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (ZKzrr)
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>>McDonald's has 3 stores where they are trying out auto ordering by touch screen.....
Posted by: colin
I was in a Chili's recently and they have the tablet on the table to place your order. Still have a server and they still expect a tip for basically being a food runner. I read something recently that restaurants that have these have more sales as it is easy for the customer to place additional orders for more drinks etc. At the same time the server gets less in tips as customers don't perceive as high a value in the server if they place their own orders. Eventually, it would seem that the restaurant would be better off with a tablet and a few poorly paid food runners.
Posted by: colin
I was in a Chili's recently and they have the tablet on the table to place your order. Still have a server and they still expect a tip for basically being a food runner. I read something recently that restaurants that have these have more sales as it is easy for the customer to place additional orders for more drinks etc. At the same time the server gets less in tips as customers don't perceive as high a value in the server if they place their own orders. Eventually, it would seem that the restaurant would be better off with a tablet and a few poorly paid food runners.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (sQzB6)
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I've plotted the long term per capita GDP trend. From 1982 to 2007 (25 years) the trend was increasing and very consistent. After Obama took office the actual fell from the trend and has flatlined. We are now about $6500 per year per PERSON less wealthy than we should be.
Posted by: Ken at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (LXJ1e)
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shofar?
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:25 PM (nqBYe)
Shogood!
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (nqiq9)
and Insomniac. minds.
Hahahaha, srsly though the sounds sound similar to the shofar.
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:25 PM (nqBYe)
Shogood!
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (nqiq9)
and Insomniac. minds.
Hahahaha, srsly though the sounds sound similar to the shofar.
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (nqBYe)
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We need lamp posts.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (BInE1)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (VPLuQ)
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We need rope.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (BInE1)
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We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to
send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
"peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD)
Well, if the frisbees were packed with Semtex, it might thin the herd a little.
send her to "Palestine" to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
"peace" or something.
Seriously.
She'll get money from me when hell freezes over and pigs fly.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD)
Well, if the frisbees were packed with Semtex, it might thin the herd a little.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (QkWlQ)
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Ken yes, and then they grab your tax return for obamacrae.
Posted by: willow channeling elite at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (nqBYe)
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Eventually, it would seem that the restaurant would be better off with a tablet and a few poorly paid food runners.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (sQzB6)
...or skip the servers and just put it all on a conveyor belt like they do in sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 04:36 PM (sQzB6)
...or skip the servers and just put it all on a conveyor belt like they do in sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (V+kmg)
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. . . still suggesting that this is entirely due to tectonic structural forces that Obama couldn't possibly have anything to do with, and obviously, then, he should not be blamed.
__________________________
This argument that Obama had nothing to do with the factors that led to the collapse of the real estate market is total bullshit. As a Chicago lawyer, Obama was one of the people suing banks to force them to make mortgage loans to unqualified borrowers, in the name of "racial justice." As a senator, Obama was one of the idiot Dims braying for Fannie and Freddie to lower standards again and again, and take on more and more risk, in the interests of "racial justice" and "fairness" (i.e., more taxpayer-guaranteed home loans to more and more unqualified borrowers, including millions of illegal aliens). Obama was also one of the Dim senators who repeatedly voted against George W. Bush's efforts to put the brakes on some of the worst abuses in the mortgage lending industry.
The "tectonic forces" that crashed the U.S. real estate market were a direct result of the irresponsible and stupid "activist" policies of idiots like Barry Obama. And the past 6-1/2 years of sluggish non-recovery from that disaster are also the direct result of idiotic Obama policies.
__________________________
This argument that Obama had nothing to do with the factors that led to the collapse of the real estate market is total bullshit. As a Chicago lawyer, Obama was one of the people suing banks to force them to make mortgage loans to unqualified borrowers, in the name of "racial justice." As a senator, Obama was one of the idiot Dims braying for Fannie and Freddie to lower standards again and again, and take on more and more risk, in the interests of "racial justice" and "fairness" (i.e., more taxpayer-guaranteed home loans to more and more unqualified borrowers, including millions of illegal aliens). Obama was also one of the Dim senators who repeatedly voted against George W. Bush's efforts to put the brakes on some of the worst abuses in the mortgage lending industry.
The "tectonic forces" that crashed the U.S. real estate market were a direct result of the irresponsible and stupid "activist" policies of idiots like Barry Obama. And the past 6-1/2 years of sluggish non-recovery from that disaster are also the direct result of idiotic Obama policies.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (lmdHn)
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Something simple, like no onions, or similar to that.
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I see the problem. Should have been 'sin cebolla' or something similar.
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I see the problem. Should have been 'sin cebolla' or something similar.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (NUqwG)
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"The problem is, nobody wants to let the economy cycle through a small recession. They keep trying to fix everything, with QE's and low interest."
This.
In 2008, instead, we had a Treasury Secretary hired straight from GOLDMAN FREAKING SACHS who walked into President Bush's office and claimed with a straight face that if there were not massive federal financial intervention (a ton of it going right into the coffers of Goldman) then there would be a horrible global financial Armageddon.
Dubya bought into this self-serving crap. Hook, line and sinker.
The Bush family. The gift that keeps on giving no matter how long and how loudly you scream for it to stop.
This.
In 2008, instead, we had a Treasury Secretary hired straight from GOLDMAN FREAKING SACHS who walked into President Bush's office and claimed with a straight face that if there were not massive federal financial intervention (a ton of it going right into the coffers of Goldman) then there would be a horrible global financial Armageddon.
Dubya bought into this self-serving crap. Hook, line and sinker.
The Bush family. The gift that keeps on giving no matter how long and how loudly you scream for it to stop.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (noWW6)
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And something to decorate them with.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (o68RC)
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Notice the comments at Yahoo.
Yeah, Reagan "voodoo."
Not Obama.
Conservative Voodoo.
I've noticed a lot of very negative articles, lately, that refuse to let you comment there now. Blocking the truth-tellers.
Yeah, Reagan "voodoo."
Not Obama.
Conservative Voodoo.
I've noticed a lot of very negative articles, lately, that refuse to let you comment there now. Blocking the truth-tellers.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (zqrZE)
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If only you could flog and fire their employees on the way out.
*****
Don't want to be accused of running a false flog operation.
*****
Don't want to be accused of running a false flog operation.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (NeFrd)
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Speaking of Comcast and how I am currently at the yaaay I get to stick with Time Warner hey wait a minute stage, whilst staying with the 'rents, I noticed that there were markings spray painted on the yard. Then there was the congrats AT ampersand T is going to be installing the line for gigabit service in your neighborhood isn't that awesome! Then the guys came and did the digging up and, I must admit, very nice job in fixing the damage to the yard.
And then I may possibly, just, you know possibly, have thought some unkind things about the 'rents getting U-Verse when it doesn't appear I'll have that option anytime soon.
Oh Mommy update. First of all, thank you very much for the thoughts and prayers. They are appreciated. II. Mommy is three weeks out and was at 104 degrees of ummm flexion? let's go with that as of her rehab visit today. The entire planet but Mommy thinks this is awesome.
And then I may possibly, just, you know possibly, have thought some unkind things about the 'rents getting U-Verse when it doesn't appear I'll have that option anytime soon.
Oh Mommy update. First of all, thank you very much for the thoughts and prayers. They are appreciated. II. Mommy is three weeks out and was at 104 degrees of ummm flexion? let's go with that as of her rehab visit today. The entire planet but Mommy thinks this is awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (mf5HN)
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Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (VAXnE)
I'm just not optimistic it will be turned around even if it could be.
No one is even suggesting the kind of radical change that would be necessary to jump start our economy and to change the incentive structure.
And even if they could, and had a compliant congress, and pulled everything off -- I fear it may be too little too late.
Keep in mind that we have $18 T and counting in federal debt + the entitlement bomb ticking away in the shadows + exploding state / local debt + a huge generation ("baby boomers") beginning to retire and leave the work place and availing themselves of their (untouchable) "retirement security" in the form of SS, medicare, and (for the lucky few) pensions.
All of which must be paid for by a population of workers that's not even replacing itself, and a large per centage of whom don't work at all, and a good per centage of whom work but still get a net benefit on tax day and don't "pay in to the system" at all.
I'm just not optimistic it will be turned around even if it could be.
No one is even suggesting the kind of radical change that would be necessary to jump start our economy and to change the incentive structure.
And even if they could, and had a compliant congress, and pulled everything off -- I fear it may be too little too late.
Keep in mind that we have $18 T and counting in federal debt + the entitlement bomb ticking away in the shadows + exploding state / local debt + a huge generation ("baby boomers") beginning to retire and leave the work place and availing themselves of their (untouchable) "retirement security" in the form of SS, medicare, and (for the lucky few) pensions.
All of which must be paid for by a population of workers that's not even replacing itself, and a large per centage of whom don't work at all, and a good per centage of whom work but still get a net benefit on tax day and don't "pay in to the system" at all.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (AkOaV)
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>>The LIVs are likely getting refunds or as they think of it "free money" (not "my money the government took as an interest free loan, like monsters.)
Many of them truly are getting free money, not just a refund. Especially if they only make a little and have kids. Some people make 5-10 grand off the tax system.
>>It'll be near-catastrophic pain for a long while. Which makes it no less necessary, but you can see why politicians are doing their damnedest to avoid it.
Well, yes. It will suck, but it kind of sucks already, no?
Many of them truly are getting free money, not just a refund. Especially if they only make a little and have kids. Some people make 5-10 grand off the tax system.
>>It'll be near-catastrophic pain for a long while. Which makes it no less necessary, but you can see why politicians are doing their damnedest to avoid it.
Well, yes. It will suck, but it kind of sucks already, no?
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (lIU4e)
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"Yes, they're highly regulated. The cronies in the industry work with lobbyists and congressmen to write the regulations."
The lobbyists are hired to ensure the industry does not get further crushed by regulations. Obviously the suck at that lately.
Everybody lobbies Congress one way or another.
Please give me a specific example of how the "laws are written to benefit a handful of banks". Just one with specifics.
Yes, the PD's monetize the debt. Do you realize what's required for them to do that?? Notwithstanding some FI HAS to do that?
I've met with Congress often. These people don't want to hear what the industry says. They're not interested because they like a good emotional whipping boy.
But they can't figure this whole bad economy thing out.
*BLINK*
The laws are often grotesque in their overreach and written by clowns who don't know anything about the industry. Or capitalism for that matter. See Dodd-Frank, the same fucktards who destroyed the mortgage industry with their Fannie-Freddie, CRA, HUD bullshit and lowering of the underwriting standards.
The lobbyists are hired to ensure the industry does not get further crushed by regulations. Obviously the suck at that lately.
Everybody lobbies Congress one way or another.
Please give me a specific example of how the "laws are written to benefit a handful of banks". Just one with specifics.
Yes, the PD's monetize the debt. Do you realize what's required for them to do that?? Notwithstanding some FI HAS to do that?
I've met with Congress often. These people don't want to hear what the industry says. They're not interested because they like a good emotional whipping boy.
But they can't figure this whole bad economy thing out.
*BLINK*
The laws are often grotesque in their overreach and written by clowns who don't know anything about the industry. Or capitalism for that matter. See Dodd-Frank, the same fucktards who destroyed the mortgage industry with their Fannie-Freddie, CRA, HUD bullshit and lowering of the underwriting standards.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
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Many of them truly are getting free money, not just a refund. Especially if they only make a little and have kids. Some people make 5-10 grand off the tax system.
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Another bi-partisan success.
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Another bi-partisan success.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (NUqwG)
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And yes, I'll be happy to fill out your customer service survey.
So today I got an e-mail from the sunglasses place I ordered from. We're terribly sorry, but that one is so very backordered and it's going to be a few weeks. If you want, you can substitute one of our "fast shipping" items and we'll get it right out to you.
I click the link. What's a the top of the "fast shipping" items? Of course, the exact make and model of sunglasses I've ordered. So I call customer service.
And we had twenty minutes of "if it's a fast shipping item why don't you just send it to me?", "we're experiencing unprecedented demand", "why is it the first suggestion on your fast shipping list", "we apologize that we're experiencing such demand".
Finally, "can I answer any other questions for you?" "NO, because you haven't answered the Single First Important Question of why that fast shipping item can't be shipped to me fast!"
"I'll e-mail you an update tomorrow, is that acceptable?".
And yes, I'll be happy to fill out your customer service survey.
So today I got an e-mail from the sunglasses place I ordered from. We're terribly sorry, but that one is so very backordered and it's going to be a few weeks. If you want, you can substitute one of our "fast shipping" items and we'll get it right out to you.
I click the link. What's a the top of the "fast shipping" items? Of course, the exact make and model of sunglasses I've ordered. So I call customer service.
And we had twenty minutes of "if it's a fast shipping item why don't you just send it to me?", "we're experiencing unprecedented demand", "why is it the first suggestion on your fast shipping list", "we apologize that we're experiencing such demand".
Finally, "can I answer any other questions for you?" "NO, because you haven't answered the Single First Important Question of why that fast shipping item can't be shipped to me fast!"
"I'll e-mail you an update tomorrow, is that acceptable?".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
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And I'm not one of those "ahh economic collapse is coming! Buy freeze dried food and gold!" types.
I think it will be a slow reduction in the standard of living and a several hundred year "collapse" like the Romans went through.
I think it will be a slow reduction in the standard of living and a several hundred year "collapse" like the Romans went through.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (AkOaV)
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"I see the problem. Should have been 'sin cebolla' or something similar. "
Nope.
Not a single employee looked the type to speak Spanish.
Or ever actually do manual labor, in a yard, or anywhere else.
Nope.
Not a single employee looked the type to speak Spanish.
Or ever actually do manual labor, in a yard, or anywhere else.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (VPLuQ)
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>>Yes, but. I give the devil his due. A lot of what an economy needs is to just not be actively f*cked by government. I give Clinton credit for staying out of the way.
Yep. Lots of people who don't see the heavy hand of government personally have no idea how much government is throttling business through regulation and taxation. They might understand it intellectually but you really have to deal with it to understand how bad it is.
Get government the fuck out of the way. Single biggest problem our economy faces.
Yep. Lots of people who don't see the heavy hand of government personally have no idea how much government is throttling business through regulation and taxation. They might understand it intellectually but you really have to deal with it to understand how bad it is.
Get government the fuck out of the way. Single biggest problem our economy faces.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (g1DWB)
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...or skip the servers and just put it all on a conveyor belt like they do in sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
GPS-guided trebuchet delivery platform...
Posted by: Sean Bannion
GPS-guided trebuchet delivery platform...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (uctT+)
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Wait. HR has beer and ice cream for to be making beer floats?
*sidles over*
...or skip the servers and just put it all on a conveyor belt like they do in sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (V+kmg)
And Sheetz for dinner it is!
*sidles over*
...or skip the servers and just put it all on a conveyor belt like they do in sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (V+kmg)
And Sheetz for dinner it is!
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (mf5HN)
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Some eateries already have an ordering tablet on the table.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (o68RC)
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"We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
I am always put in mind of the instructive example of Amy Biehl.
Affluent white liberal Stanford grad student chickadee. Went to South Africa to prove that she was totes down with the struggle. Came to an entirely predictable bad end at the hands of the same people she was ostensibly there to help.
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
I am always put in mind of the instructive example of Amy Biehl.
Affluent white liberal Stanford grad student chickadee. Went to South Africa to prove that she was totes down with the struggle. Came to an entirely predictable bad end at the hands of the same people she was ostensibly there to help.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:41 PM (noWW6)
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Can't take beer through the self checkout at the store I go to.
Posted by: wth
Where I shop the machine notifies the attendant and they check your age, which at my age is just a quick glance in their direction.
I was in a Chili's recently and they have the tablet
on the table to place your order.
Posted by: Aviator
That's the sound of smaller tips. I like that, too.
Posted by: wth
Where I shop the machine notifies the attendant and they check your age, which at my age is just a quick glance in their direction.
I was in a Chili's recently and they have the tablet
on the table to place your order.
Posted by: Aviator
That's the sound of smaller tips. I like that, too.
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 04:41 PM (XWo4d)
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>>Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?
Because it makes Obama policy decisions, such as Open Border Amnesty for ALL look even more ridiculous.
Because it makes Obama policy decisions, such as Open Border Amnesty for ALL look even more ridiculous.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 04:41 PM (V7QeA)
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I don't know what Ace is talking about. Things are freaking awesome from where I sit. I mean, I used to be dead broke and look at me now!!!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 18, 2015 04:42 PM (ZxVJD)
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Wait. HR has beer and ice cream for to be making beer floats?
I can't shove it through the USB until I get home...
Wait. HR has beer and ice cream for to be making beer floats?
I can't shove it through the USB until I get home...
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:42 PM (ZKzrr)
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"Notice the comments at Yahoo. Yeah, Reagan 'voodoo.' Not Obama. Conservative Voodoo. I've noticed a lot of very negative articles, lately, that refuse to let you comment there now. Blocking the truth-tellers."
Marissa Mayer at Yahoo is an absolutely obsessive Obama fangirl, going back to when she was previously employed by Google, and throwing big splashy Obama fundraiser dinners at her home in the Valley.
Marissa Mayer at Yahoo is an absolutely obsessive Obama fangirl, going back to when she was previously employed by Google, and throwing big splashy Obama fundraiser dinners at her home in the Valley.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (noWW6)
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Finally, "can I answer any other questions for you?" "NO, because you haven't answered the Single First Important Question of why that fast shipping item can't be shipped to me fast!"
"I'll e-mail you an update tomorrow, is that acceptable?".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but it appears that people born after, say, 1990, can't seem to actually think.
They're totes awesome at following flow charts though.
"I'll e-mail you an update tomorrow, is that acceptable?".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but it appears that people born after, say, 1990, can't seem to actually think.
They're totes awesome at following flow charts though.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
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Notice the comments at Yahoo.
Yeah, Reagan "voodoo."
Not Obama.
Conservative Voodoo.
They could blame Nixon. Or Hoover.
Yeah, Reagan "voodoo."
Not Obama.
Conservative Voodoo.
They could blame Nixon. Or Hoover.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (W5DcG)
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Someone postulated that the reason Stocks are going ups not that the stock value has increased.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
--
Correct. The actual value of a stock is the assets of the business plus a going concern premium (goodwill), divided by the number of shares. As the dollar depreciates, the stock goes up, but is not necessarily more valuable.
Same goes for gold. When gold was selling for $20 in the 1920s, a good man's suit sold for the price of an ounce of gold. Now that gold is around $1500, the suit costs that much.
Someone postulated that the reason Stocks are going ups not that the stock value has increased.
But, that the actual value of the purchasing dollar has decreased.
--
Correct. The actual value of a stock is the assets of the business plus a going concern premium (goodwill), divided by the number of shares. As the dollar depreciates, the stock goes up, but is not necessarily more valuable.
Same goes for gold. When gold was selling for $20 in the 1920s, a good man's suit sold for the price of an ounce of gold. Now that gold is around $1500, the suit costs that much.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (eGmvn)
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sushi restaurants in Japan.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (V+kmg)
Already here.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:38 PM (V+kmg)
Already here.
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (ecDRv)
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Considering the elites are determined to return us to a feudal system of elites and serfs perhaps it's not surprising that their economic cures fail. No matter what the problem is, no matter how badly the patient does, the prescribed cure is another blood letting.
Posted by: Going Long on Leeches at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (sTm/x)
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>>"We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
Two words: church sponsorship (lol)
Churches fund trips like this all the time, except they expect the traveler to contribute something *meaningful* - not frisbee.
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
Two words: church sponsorship (lol)
Churches fund trips like this all the time, except they expect the traveler to contribute something *meaningful* - not frisbee.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (V7QeA)
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Wait. HR has beer and ice cream for to be making beer floats?
*sidles over*
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (mf5HN)
so you want a tall one.
I denounce myself
*sidles over*
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (mf5HN)
so you want a tall one.
I denounce myself
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (sWgE+)
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I've been reading that China is now worried about a real estate bubble. Not sure what the ramifications of that will be.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (RJMhd)
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I think it will be a slow reduction in the standard of living and a several hundred year "collapse" like the Romans went through.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (AkOaV)
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It has every potential of being very sudden too. Like 1929.
It's a house of cards either way.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (AkOaV)
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It has every potential of being very sudden too. Like 1929.
It's a house of cards either way.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (/HX7u)
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Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
...uh one example?
Okay, Dodd-Frank.
Do you think Chris Dodd and Barney Frank sat around and wrote that law? Do you think they understand the financial markets at all?
Dodd-Frank is killing smaller banks with compliance costs, codifies the idea of "too big to fail" in to our legal framework, and benefits larger banks who can afford teams of lawyers and accountants to be in compliance.
I'm not saying it's the banks FAULTS -- shit, I'd do the same thing if Congress came to me with their hands out and said "we love to help our friends... but we crush our enemies" but that's the incentive system in place.
Look at Microsoft in the 90s. They had 1 part time lobbyist in DC and barely paid attention to politics.
Until they were threatened with an anti-trust case because they were bundling IE with Windows.
Now, they're in the top 5 donors in every campaign cycle, have any army of lobbyists, and do everything they can to stay in the good graces of the lobbyists.
Google went through a similar epiphany.
Again, I don't blame the CEO of Microsoft. He did what he had to do to keep his business growing.
But to deny that that system exists is... I mean, come on.
...uh one example?
Okay, Dodd-Frank.
Do you think Chris Dodd and Barney Frank sat around and wrote that law? Do you think they understand the financial markets at all?
Dodd-Frank is killing smaller banks with compliance costs, codifies the idea of "too big to fail" in to our legal framework, and benefits larger banks who can afford teams of lawyers and accountants to be in compliance.
I'm not saying it's the banks FAULTS -- shit, I'd do the same thing if Congress came to me with their hands out and said "we love to help our friends... but we crush our enemies" but that's the incentive system in place.
Look at Microsoft in the 90s. They had 1 part time lobbyist in DC and barely paid attention to politics.
Until they were threatened with an anti-trust case because they were bundling IE with Windows.
Now, they're in the top 5 donors in every campaign cycle, have any army of lobbyists, and do everything they can to stay in the good graces of the lobbyists.
Google went through a similar epiphany.
Again, I don't blame the CEO of Microsoft. He did what he had to do to keep his business growing.
But to deny that that system exists is... I mean, come on.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)
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GPS-guided trebuchet delivery platform...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (uctT+)
*perks*
I live 2 blocks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark office.
They close for the day in 13 minutes.
BRB.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (uctT+)
*perks*
I live 2 blocks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark office.
They close for the day in 13 minutes.
BRB.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (V+kmg)
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Please give me a specific example of how the "laws are written to benefit a handful of banks". Just one with specifics.
Posted by: Marcus T
Primary Dealers of the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: Marcus T
Primary Dealers of the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (uctT+)
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As a totes impartial journalist, it's clear that the only way we can reverse this trend is to elect Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Posted by: George Stepanfetchitforclintonopolis at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (ZxVJD)
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good graces of the lobbyists = "good graces of the politicians"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (QyBQv)
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Premium Interest Rates.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (o68RC)
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Wait. HR has beer and ice cream for to be making beer floats?
*sidles over*
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD
so you want a tall one.
I denounce myself
Posted by: wrg500
So there are scoops small enough to make a float in a shotglass?
*sidles over*
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD
so you want a tall one.
I denounce myself
Posted by: wrg500
So there are scoops small enough to make a float in a shotglass?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (DT3rQ)
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so you want a tall one.
I denounce myself
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (sWgE+)
*pulls out clipboard*
One demerit.
*does the two finger to the eyes and point thingy*
I denounce myself
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (sWgE+)
*pulls out clipboard*
One demerit.
*does the two finger to the eyes and point thingy*
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (V+kmg)
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234
That certainly eliminates unnecessary human interaction. Soon all interaction will be by twits only.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
Given how rude and clueless the service sector crowd is these days, this will be an improvement.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
You'd think so, but no.
That certainly eliminates unnecessary human interaction. Soon all interaction will be by twits only.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 18, 2015 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
Given how rude and clueless the service sector crowd is these days, this will be an improvement.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
You'd think so, but no.
Posted by: Robot worker, squirting fluids in your burger at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (LAe3v)
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Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:44 PM (/HX7u)
I'm blanking on who said this quote. It's pithy, so I'll attribute it to mark twain, since that's what the media does whenever they don't know who said something.
But someone was asked "how did you go bankrupt?"
and he said "first gradually, then suddenly"
I'm blanking on who said this quote. It's pithy, so I'll attribute it to mark twain, since that's what the media does whenever they don't know who said something.
But someone was asked "how did you go bankrupt?"
and he said "first gradually, then suddenly"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (AkOaV)
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I was in a Chili's recently and they have the tablet on the table to place your order.
****
Just try not to think about the snotty-nosed 4-year-old who was at that table just before you, with his slimy fingers wiping across the touch screen.
****
Just try not to think about the snotty-nosed 4-year-old who was at that table just before you, with his slimy fingers wiping across the touch screen.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (NeFrd)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:45 PM (V+kmg)
I live just outside the beltway from there.
I live just outside the beltway from there.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (sWgE+)
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310 268 We need rope.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (BInE1)
and a step stool
======================
Rope and a step stool? What's going on? Are we going to make a video?
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:37 PM (BInE1)
and a step stool
======================
Rope and a step stool? What's going on? Are we going to make a video?
Posted by: Hilldogger For President at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (Sq5z0)
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So, why arent they releasing Adrian Robinson Jr.'s cause of death? OD? Suicide?
So, why arent they releasing Adrian Robinson Jr.'s cause of death? OD? Suicide?
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (iQIUe)
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I'm blanking on who said this quote. It's pithy, so I'll attribute it to mark twain, since that's what the media does whenever they don't know who said something.
It's a character, Mike Campbell, in "The Sun Also Rises".
I'm blanking on who said this quote. It's pithy, so I'll attribute it to mark twain, since that's what the media does whenever they don't know who said something.
It's a character, Mike Campbell, in "The Sun Also Rises".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (JtwS4)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
Right before the (still unaccredited) IRB here "chose not to renew my contract." They asked me to build a bunch of flow charts. Most of them were procedural, so whatever. A few though were stupid I said "you can't put that in a flow chart, it's a judgment call."
"FLOW CHART."
"but you need to understand the difference between X and ..."
"FLOW CHART."
"Fine puck it when OHRP fines us it's your funeral, I don' work here anymore in a month anyway."
Right before the (still unaccredited) IRB here "chose not to renew my contract." They asked me to build a bunch of flow charts. Most of them were procedural, so whatever. A few though were stupid I said "you can't put that in a flow chart, it's a judgment call."
"FLOW CHART."
"but you need to understand the difference between X and ..."
"FLOW CHART."
"Fine puck it when OHRP fines us it's your funeral, I don' work here anymore in a month anyway."
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (U8W/7)
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"and a step stool"
We already have one of those.
Well, not the actual royal "We" we.
But, a certain 'Ette has an awesome one that I 'm sure she would loan us.
Then "We" would have one.
We already have one of those.
Well, not the actual royal "We" we.
But, a certain 'Ette has an awesome one that I 'm sure she would loan us.
Then "We" would have one.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (VPLuQ)
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Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but it appears that people born after, say, 1990, can't seem to actually think. They're totes awesome at following flow charts though.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
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You are correct, sir. It's strange to look into the eyes of someone under 35 whose never been taught any kind of critical thinking. They're lifeless eyes. Like dolls' eyes.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
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You are correct, sir. It's strange to look into the eyes of someone under 35 whose never been taught any kind of critical thinking. They're lifeless eyes. Like dolls' eyes.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (/HX7u)
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315 Ernest Hemingway The Sun also Rises.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (o68RC)
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I live just outside the beltway from there.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (sWgE+)
I can throw a rock into the Hoffman Center parking lot from my place.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:47 PM (sWgE+)
I can throw a rock into the Hoffman Center parking lot from my place.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (V+kmg)
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>>I've been reading that China is now worried about a real estate bubble. Not sure what the ramifications of that will be.
China is an enormous fraud that keeps being held up as a global success story by central planning fans like Tom Friedman.
I was in Hong Kong a few months ago and my customer was telling me that the Hong Kong authorities are instituting new rules for travel for Chinese nationals to Hong Kong. The reason is that people were flocking over the border on a daily basis and cleaning out the stores for basic supplies raising prices and causing shortages for the locals. The most noteworthy of the items experiencing shortages was baby formula.
A country the size of China that can't provide the basics like baby formula to its citizens has some serious fundamental issues.
China is an enormous fraud that keeps being held up as a global success story by central planning fans like Tom Friedman.
I was in Hong Kong a few months ago and my customer was telling me that the Hong Kong authorities are instituting new rules for travel for Chinese nationals to Hong Kong. The reason is that people were flocking over the border on a daily basis and cleaning out the stores for basic supplies raising prices and causing shortages for the locals. The most noteworthy of the items experiencing shortages was baby formula.
A country the size of China that can't provide the basics like baby formula to its citizens has some serious fundamental issues.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (g1DWB)
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It's strange to look into the eyes of someone under 35 whose never been
taught any kind of critical thinking. They're lifeless eyes. Like dolls'
eyes.
I'd mention Kate Upton, but then nobody ever looks in her eyes.
taught any kind of critical thinking. They're lifeless eyes. Like dolls'
eyes.
I'd mention Kate Upton, but then nobody ever looks in her eyes.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (LAe3v)
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I can throw a rock into the Hoffman Center parking lot from my place.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (V+kmg)
1.3 miles
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (V+kmg)
1.3 miles
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (sWgE+)
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Yes, but. I give the devil his due. A lot of what an economy needs is to just not be actively f*cked by government. I give Clinton credit for staying out of the way.
Except BJ Cliton didn't stay out of the way. He signed NAFTA after which over 10,000 small business were forced to close their doors and millions of Americans lost their jobs (of which I was one, thanks a fuckofalot asshole). He gave our manufacturing sector to China on a silver platter.
And his whore wife thinks I want to vote for her? They're both psycho.
Except BJ Cliton didn't stay out of the way. He signed NAFTA after which over 10,000 small business were forced to close their doors and millions of Americans lost their jobs (of which I was one, thanks a fuckofalot asshole). He gave our manufacturing sector to China on a silver platter.
And his whore wife thinks I want to vote for her? They're both psycho.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (0HooB)
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You'd think so, but no.
Posted by: Robot worker, squirting fluids in your burger at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (LAe3v)
Hydraulic fluid is to be preferred to Chikungunya.
Jus sayin
Posted by: Robot worker, squirting fluids in your burger at May 18, 2015 04:46 PM (LAe3v)
Hydraulic fluid is to be preferred to Chikungunya.
Jus sayin
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (V+kmg)
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>>Romney (bear with me here) talked about how people get into the mindset of the way it is now will continue forever.
That's at play here.
We can pretty quickly turn the economy around.
Have to throw out the crooks though.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (VAXnE)
Thank you. We need some leadership and some guts.
And I think one of the things the republican party needs most is someone who is kind of a 'teacher'. Because lord knows they don't teach anything in school. Explain WHY we need to change. Explain the history. Explain the meaning.
That's one of the amazing things about going back and watching Milton Friedman. He was great at that and he was so damn nice about it.
That's at play here.
We can pretty quickly turn the economy around.
Have to throw out the crooks though.
Posted by: @votermom at May 18, 2015 04:34 PM (VAXnE)
Thank you. We need some leadership and some guts.
And I think one of the things the republican party needs most is someone who is kind of a 'teacher'. Because lord knows they don't teach anything in school. Explain WHY we need to change. Explain the history. Explain the meaning.
That's one of the amazing things about going back and watching Milton Friedman. He was great at that and he was so damn nice about it.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (lIU4e)
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China is an enormous fraud that keeps being held up as a global success story by central planning fans like Tom Friedman.
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It is amazing how similar our economy is to China's right now.
China is an enormous fraud that keeps being held up as a global success story by central planning fans like Tom Friedman.
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It is amazing how similar our economy is to China's right now.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (eGmvn)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (VPLuQ)
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I can throw a rock into the Hoffman Center parking lot from my place.
And I can throw it right back.
I'm not tired. Or proud. I can do this all day.
I can throw a rock into the Hoffman Center parking lot from my place.
And I can throw it right back.
I'm not tired. Or proud. I can do this all day.
Posted by: Hoffman Center parking lot at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (JtwS4)
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Please give me a specific example of how the "laws are written to benefit a handful of banks". Just one with specifics.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
In the wake of the 2008 Meltdown, there was a TARP amendment that granted JPM, not by name, but by description of events only JPM could have made during the relevant period, a retroactive safeharbor in its gift of Washington Mutual to JPM. As far as could be discerned, someone out of Schumer's office had it entered.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 18, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
In the wake of the 2008 Meltdown, there was a TARP amendment that granted JPM, not by name, but by description of events only JPM could have made during the relevant period, a retroactive safeharbor in its gift of Washington Mutual to JPM. As far as could be discerned, someone out of Schumer's office had it entered.
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (ecDRv)
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For Liberals, there is only one salient fact about Obama: he's black.
Because he's black, his wisdom, achievements, talents, policies, etc, can never, ever, ever be questioned even slightly. Because he's black.
Because he's black, his wisdom, achievements, talents, policies, etc, can never, ever, ever be questioned even slightly. Because he's black.
Posted by: Null at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (xjpRj)
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A country the size of China that can't provide the basics like baby formula to its citizens has some serious fundamental issues.
We have plenty of baby formula. It's got lead and arsenic in it, but still.
A country the size of China that can't provide the basics like baby formula to its citizens has some serious fundamental issues.
We have plenty of baby formula. It's got lead and arsenic in it, but still.
Posted by: China at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (LAe3v)
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1.3 miles
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (sWgE+)
I do not believe I have your registration for NoVAMoMee 3.
*ahem*
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (sWgE+)
I do not believe I have your registration for NoVAMoMee 3.
*ahem*
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (V+kmg)
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Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but it appears that people born after, say, 1990, can't seem to actually think.
They're totes awesome at following flow charts though.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
See re: my current monomania that Kids These Days are being trained, not taught.
Also, and I say this with all the care and joy that I can express to the Horde and with great delicacy and tact, but if any of you scamps so much as lay a finger on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness, I will cut a bitch.
They're totes awesome at following flow charts though.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (V+kmg)
See re: my current monomania that Kids These Days are being trained, not taught.
Also, and I say this with all the care and joy that I can express to the Horde and with great delicacy and tact, but if any of you scamps so much as lay a finger on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness, I will cut a bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (uctT+)
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Posted by: Going Long on Leeches at May 18, 2015 04:43 PM (sTm/x)
Oh, we're already in a feudal system.
As I understand it, the words land lords required their serfs to pay between 1/3 to 1/2 of their crops in taxes to them.
Of course, the serf got land to live on and work, protection from the lord of the land against the lawlessness, and safe walls to retreat behind.
Most of us pay more than that in taxes, and we don't get shit back as a benefit.
Plus, to add insult to injury, we're forced to not only BUY our land, but to pay "rent" in the form of property taxes.
Seriously, add up all direct and indirect taxes you pay. Not just federal income tax.
Every single one of us not on welfare is paying more than 1/3 of our income, directly or indirectly, to a government (local, county, state, federal)
Oh, we're already in a feudal system.
As I understand it, the words land lords required their serfs to pay between 1/3 to 1/2 of their crops in taxes to them.
Of course, the serf got land to live on and work, protection from the lord of the land against the lawlessness, and safe walls to retreat behind.
Most of us pay more than that in taxes, and we don't get shit back as a benefit.
Plus, to add insult to injury, we're forced to not only BUY our land, but to pay "rent" in the form of property taxes.
Seriously, add up all direct and indirect taxes you pay. Not just federal income tax.
Every single one of us not on welfare is paying more than 1/3 of our income, directly or indirectly, to a government (local, county, state, federal)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (AkOaV)
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"Considering the elites are determined to return us to a feudal system of elites and serfs perhaps it's not surprising that their economic cures fail. No matter what the problem is, no matter how badly the patient does, the prescribed cure is another blood letting."
Pretty much this.
And pretty much the serfs don't give a shit because the TV is on and the chalupa is tasty.
Pretty much this.
And pretty much the serfs don't give a shit because the TV is on and the chalupa is tasty.
Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (Jktp1)
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"I'll e-mail you an update tomorrow, is that acceptable?".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
NEVER do a "live chat". I did one for a Time Warner Cable question. After 45 minutes, it became very clear that the woman "chatting" with me did not understand English.
I asked for a supervisor. Charles came on, I asked if he had read my "Chat" and if he spoke English and was in the USA. Yes, he say he speaks English, but is in India and had read my "chat"
Then he asked me a question I answered 30 minutes earlier. I disconnected. Called 800, was sent to the Philippines. They are just as clueless, BUT they did send me back to the USA. A Black guy, sounded like one, fixed problem in two minutes.
Time Warner SUCKS.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
NEVER do a "live chat". I did one for a Time Warner Cable question. After 45 minutes, it became very clear that the woman "chatting" with me did not understand English.
I asked for a supervisor. Charles came on, I asked if he had read my "Chat" and if he spoke English and was in the USA. Yes, he say he speaks English, but is in India and had read my "chat"
Then he asked me a question I answered 30 minutes earlier. I disconnected. Called 800, was sent to the Philippines. They are just as clueless, BUT they did send me back to the USA. A Black guy, sounded like one, fixed problem in two minutes.
Time Warner SUCKS.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (0FSuD)
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"We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
A not insignificant number of coeds doing those lefty Third World "peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic types.
Kind of like a certain President's mother.
"We received a mass family e-mail asking for funds to
send her to 'Palestine' to teach ultimate frisbee to the yutes. For
'peace' or something. Seriously."
A not insignificant number of coeds doing those lefty Third World "peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic types.
Kind of like a certain President's mother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (lpeQC)
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I'm not tired. Or proud. I can do this all day.
Posted by: Hoffman Center parking lot at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (JtwS4)
You might wanna fill some of those potholes.
Jus sayin.
Posted by: Hoffman Center parking lot at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (JtwS4)
You might wanna fill some of those potholes.
Jus sayin.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (V+kmg)
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"entirely due to tectonic structural forces that Obama couldn't possibly have anything to do with, and obviously, then, he should not be blamed."
You know, it could be that. But CERTINLY Obama has had a HUGE hand in accelerating this trend.
Look, let's be honest - no one in the world is going to pay crap for unskilled labor in the United States. If I need unskilled labor for something there is a line around the block of countries willing and able to provide a bottomless pit of unskilled people, willing to work for half the price with 1/10th the hassle.
Anything Obama does that makes average costs higher, say, increase the price of energy (which he has worked diligently to do), or increase wage prices (say through Obamacare) is going to depress employment and growth. Actually the entire progressive agenda is all about increasing costs, decreasing efficiency, and reducing wealth generation.In the name of progress.
"entirely due to tectonic structural forces that Obama couldn't possibly have anything to do with, and obviously, then, he should not be blamed."
You know, it could be that. But CERTINLY Obama has had a HUGE hand in accelerating this trend.
Look, let's be honest - no one in the world is going to pay crap for unskilled labor in the United States. If I need unskilled labor for something there is a line around the block of countries willing and able to provide a bottomless pit of unskilled people, willing to work for half the price with 1/10th the hassle.
Anything Obama does that makes average costs higher, say, increase the price of energy (which he has worked diligently to do), or increase wage prices (say through Obamacare) is going to depress employment and growth. Actually the entire progressive agenda is all about increasing costs, decreasing efficiency, and reducing wealth generation.In the name of progress.
Posted by: Obama & crew at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (/EkKm)
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Except BJ Cliton didn't stay out of the way. He signed NAFTA after which over 10,000 small business were forced to close their doors and millions of Americans lost their jobs (of which I was one, thanks a fuckofalot asshole).
Sorry for the personal consequences but free trade is good. Axiomatically so.
I do give WJC credit for GATT and NAFTA because he went against his base on both of them.
Except BJ Cliton didn't stay out of the way. He signed NAFTA after which over 10,000 small business were forced to close their doors and millions of Americans lost their jobs (of which I was one, thanks a fuckofalot asshole).
Sorry for the personal consequences but free trade is good. Axiomatically so.
I do give WJC credit for GATT and NAFTA because he went against his base on both of them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (JtwS4)
348
China is an enormous fraud that keeps being held up as a global success story by central planning fans like Tom Friedman.
China's headed off a cliff of its very own, and its leaders know it. Once the fake growth stops their people are going to be pissed as hell, at which point...well, I wouldn't want to be a neighbor.
I go back and forth as to whether they just want us out of the way for the Pacific, or they want to make sure they don't have to deal with us and Russia at the same time...
China's headed off a cliff of its very own, and its leaders know it. Once the fake growth stops their people are going to be pissed as hell, at which point...well, I wouldn't want to be a neighbor.
I go back and forth as to whether they just want us out of the way for the Pacific, or they want to make sure they don't have to deal with us and Russia at the same time...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (DT3rQ)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:48 PM (V+kmg)
If you ever see a BRIGHT yellow Dodge Dakota 4 dr 4x4 driving around by a devilish handsome man call the cops. Someone stole my truck.
If you ever see a BRIGHT yellow Dodge Dakota 4 dr 4x4 driving around by a devilish handsome man call the cops. Someone stole my truck.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (QyBQv)
351
Also, and I say this with all the care and joy that I can express to the Horde and with great delicacy and tact, but if any of you scamps so much as lay a finger on the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness, I will cut a bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
Speaking of which...
Please bring it this year. You'll need it to mount the trampoline.
#NoThat'sNotAEuphemism
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
Speaking of which...
Please bring it this year. You'll need it to mount the trampoline.
#NoThat'sNotAEuphemism
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (V+kmg)
352
The Economy Might Stink For a Long Time to Come
Obama. Sweater vest. The word "malaise".
The late 1970s sucked elephant balls. I couldn't wait for Howdy Doody to get kicked out by the American people. I am eagerly awaiting Obama's exit from the White House, but now I see an electorate ready, willing and eager -maybe-to vote for Hillary and accept the new shitty normal before the burning times arrive.
The last beer I brewed was in excess of 10% ABV. I might need to triple the alcohol in the next batch.
Obama. Sweater vest. The word "malaise".
The late 1970s sucked elephant balls. I couldn't wait for Howdy Doody to get kicked out by the American people. I am eagerly awaiting Obama's exit from the White House, but now I see an electorate ready, willing and eager -maybe-to vote for Hillary and accept the new shitty normal before the burning times arrive.
The last beer I brewed was in excess of 10% ABV. I might need to triple the alcohol in the next batch.
Posted by: physics geek at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (MT22W)
353
That's one of the amazing things about going back and watching Milton Friedman. He was great at that and he was so damn nice about it.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (lIU4e)
Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (lIU4e)
Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 04:54 PM (LA7Cm)
356
I fear AtC will be there.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (sWgE+)
The cage is for your protection.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (sWgE+)
The cage is for your protection.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:54 PM (V+kmg)
357
JackStraw
I saw those same reports. They were reselling goods from Hong Kong in China because of questions of quality.
I think one of the hugest issues facing China is corruption.
IIRC the reason for the potential real estate bubble is that the Chinese citizens do not trust putting their money in other places. So they are over investing in real estate.
I saw those same reports. They were reselling goods from Hong Kong in China because of questions of quality.
I think one of the hugest issues facing China is corruption.
IIRC the reason for the potential real estate bubble is that the Chinese citizens do not trust putting their money in other places. So they are over investing in real estate.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 04:55 PM (RJMhd)
358
That trumpet sounds article in Drudge yesterday was freaky.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
You have to read you some Jules Verne. One of his lesser-known novels was entitled, IIRC, "Robur The Conqueror", although it may also have been released under a different title. Basically the same plot as "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea", but instead of a submarine, the mad genius had a flying machine, made out of compressed paper, and propelled by many small helicopter rotors* driven by electric motors, powered by some super-duper battery.
Robur kidnaps some members of a dirigible airship club based in Philadelphia, and takes them on a world tour, to demonstrate the superiority of heavier-than-air flight. The novel opens, incidentally, with "news reports" of inexplicable aerial trumpet playing from widely-scattered sites around the globe. The trumpet player turns out to be Robur's chief engineer.
Fun book, and quite prophetic, considering it was written well before heavier-than-air flying machines became practical. I wonder if the current bout of aerial trumpetry is not some prank, being carried out by nerds with airhorns carried aloft on quad-copters.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
You have to read you some Jules Verne. One of his lesser-known novels was entitled, IIRC, "Robur The Conqueror", although it may also have been released under a different title. Basically the same plot as "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea", but instead of a submarine, the mad genius had a flying machine, made out of compressed paper, and propelled by many small helicopter rotors* driven by electric motors, powered by some super-duper battery.
Robur kidnaps some members of a dirigible airship club based in Philadelphia, and takes them on a world tour, to demonstrate the superiority of heavier-than-air flight. The novel opens, incidentally, with "news reports" of inexplicable aerial trumpet playing from widely-scattered sites around the globe. The trumpet player turns out to be Robur's chief engineer.
Fun book, and quite prophetic, considering it was written well before heavier-than-air flying machines became practical. I wonder if the current bout of aerial trumpetry is not some prank, being carried out by nerds with airhorns carried aloft on quad-copters.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2015 04:55 PM (QkWlQ)
359
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (0FSuD)
Well, cmon now. Indians do speak english.
It's their lingua franca in India.
Well, cmon now. Indians do speak english.
It's their lingua franca in India.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (AkOaV)
360
Sooner or later,
we have to pull the plug on the GLOBAL ECONOMY and deal with US supply side exclusiveness...
This is what happens when the Bank of the US AKA Goldman Sachs and Co set a narrative...
We lost control of the marker on the bow...
we have to pull the plug on the GLOBAL ECONOMY and deal with US supply side exclusiveness...
This is what happens when the Bank of the US AKA Goldman Sachs and Co set a narrative...
We lost control of the marker on the bow...
Posted by: No Good Deed at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (/WmRg)
361
Sluggish economy is a feature of socialism. The next thing is to make it near impossible to fire dead weight. Then the transformation will be complete.
Posted by: maddogg at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (xWW96)
362
>>>Most of us pay more than that in taxes, and we don't get shit back as a benefit.
I would pay more if:
1) Leave me the f*ck alone
2) Get off my lawn
I would pay more if:
1) Leave me the f*ck alone
2) Get off my lawn
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (QyBQv)
363
I'd mention Kate Upton, but then nobody ever looks in her eyes.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (LAe3v)
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Yeah. A man my age doesn't want a woman that looks like her to have much in the way of critical thinking.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 04:49 PM (LAe3v)
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Yeah. A man my age doesn't want a woman that looks like her to have much in the way of critical thinking.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (/HX7u)
364
So, why arent they releasing Adrian Robinson Jr.'s cause of death? OD? Suicide?
Pegging. Don't google that.
So, why arent they releasing Adrian Robinson Jr.'s cause of death? OD? Suicide?
Pegging. Don't google that.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (ZKzrr)
365
I am eagerly awaiting Obama's exit from the White House, but now I see
an electorate ready, willing and eager -maybe-to vote for Hillary and
accept the new shitty normal before the burning times arrive.
IIRC, plenty of folks thought Carter would win a second term. I believe this will be a "surprise" election like the recent Brit one, IOW we'll do a lot better than most now think we will.
OTOH, it was a different electorate, so we'll see.
an electorate ready, willing and eager -maybe-to vote for Hillary and
accept the new shitty normal before the burning times arrive.
IIRC, plenty of folks thought Carter would win a second term. I believe this will be a "surprise" election like the recent Brit one, IOW we'll do a lot better than most now think we will.
OTOH, it was a different electorate, so we'll see.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (LAe3v)
366
" BUT they did send me back to the USA. A Black guy, sounded like one, fixed problem in two minutes."
I used to work for a company with call centers. Had them all over: New York, Colorado, India, etc. The one I enjoyed working with the most was down in Monterrey, Mexico. For some reason they were always the easiest to deal with and spoke excellent English.
I used to work for a company with call centers. Had them all over: New York, Colorado, India, etc. The one I enjoyed working with the most was down in Monterrey, Mexico. For some reason they were always the easiest to deal with and spoke excellent English.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (LA7Cm)
367
IIRC the reason for the potential real estate bubble is that the Chinese citizens do not trust putting their money in other places. So they are over investing in real estate.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 04:55 PM (RJMhd
It's not don't trust putting their money in other places. It's legally prohibited from investing in other places by which I mean foreign investments. The money has to go somewhere and thus it goes to phantom cities and dragon zoos.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 04:55 PM (RJMhd
It's not don't trust putting their money in other places. It's legally prohibited from investing in other places by which I mean foreign investments. The money has to go somewhere and thus it goes to phantom cities and dragon zoos.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
368
Yeah. A man my age doesn't want a woman that looks like her to have much in the way of critical thinking.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (/HX7u)
Or eye sight.
Yeah. A man my age doesn't want a woman that looks like her to have much in the way of critical thinking.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (/HX7u)
Or eye sight.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (sWgE+)
369
TV is on and the chalupa is tasty.
Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (Jktp1)
Yeah, the bread and circuses thing worked swimmingly...
...for a while.
Posted by: Jaws at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (Jktp1)
Yeah, the bread and circuses thing worked swimmingly...
...for a while.
Posted by: Roman Empire at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (AkOaV)
370
Well, cmon now. Indians do speak english.
It's their lingua franca in India.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (AkOaV
Obviously you never spoke to "Steve" from H-P about an all in one machine.
Well, cmon now. Indians do speak english.
It's their lingua franca in India.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (AkOaV
Obviously you never spoke to "Steve" from H-P about an all in one machine.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (QyBQv)
371
Ex NFL player at 25?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (VPLuQ)
373
Pegging. Don't google that.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (ZKzrr)
Mooshelle's on the loose?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:56 PM (ZKzrr)
Mooshelle's on the loose?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (V+kmg)
374
A not insignificant number of coeds doing those
lefty Third World "peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by
smelly ethnic types.
Kind of like a certain President's mother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (lpeQC)
I have no doubt that's one reason she wants to go.
A not insignificant number of coeds doing those
lefty Third World "peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by
smelly ethnic types.
Kind of like a certain President's mother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 18, 2015 04:52 PM (lpeQC)
I have no doubt that's one reason she wants to go.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (FsuaD)
375
Wait, they don't have the formula for babies? I think I have that here somewhere...
**rustle, rustle, rustle***
...ahhh, here it is. "Snips and snails and puppy dog tails, that's what little boys are made of."
**rustle, rustle, rustle***
...ahhh, here it is. "Snips and snails and puppy dog tails, that's what little boys are made of."
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 04:58 PM (NeFrd)
376
>>Just try not to think about the snotty-nosed
4-year-old who was at that table just before you, with his slimy
fingers wiping across the touch screen.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man
I DID think of that as I looked at smudges all over the screen. I actually went and washed my hands after ordering and used the alcohol hand cleaner in my car after I used the tablet to pay my bill.
4-year-old who was at that table just before you, with his slimy
fingers wiping across the touch screen.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man
I DID think of that as I looked at smudges all over the screen. I actually went and washed my hands after ordering and used the alcohol hand cleaner in my car after I used the tablet to pay my bill.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 04:58 PM (sQzB6)
377
Sorry for the personal consequences but free trade is good. Axiomatically so.
Thanks.
It's be nice to have some free trade. Free from Fedzilla, and with an actual attitude of promoting careers (and the jobs that come along with them) for Americans.
Thanks.
It's be nice to have some free trade. Free from Fedzilla, and with an actual attitude of promoting careers (and the jobs that come along with them) for Americans.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 04:58 PM (0HooB)
378
thus it goes to phantom cities and dragon zoos.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
No spider communes?
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
No spider communes?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (QyBQv)
379
A not insignificant number of coeds doing those lefty Third World
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types.
Oh hell, you could do that in the Midwest.
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types.
Oh hell, you could do that in the Midwest.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (ZKzrr)
380
That's one of the amazing things about going back and watching Milton Friedman. He was great at that and he was so damn nice about it.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (lIU4e)
Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (AkOaV)
----
"Freedom to Choose" should be broadcast in schools on a continuous loop for all children K-12
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 04:50 PM (lIU4e)
Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (AkOaV)
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"Freedom to Choose" should be broadcast in schools on a continuous loop for all children K-12
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (8XRCm)
381
Son dropped by to say he's applying for a job with a landscaping company tomorrow while he takes a couple of classes this summer.
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (FsuaD)
382
strange how prog economies always end up with kids living in their parents' houses until they get married at 40.
Relying on the wealth built up before the Progs came to power.
Relying on the wealth built up before the Progs came to power.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (dFXmO)
383
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (QyBQv)
HP has "in sourced" their call centers for their commercial customers due to complaints like that.
Call center in Canada, and one in... TX? maybe. I forget. They all have drawls though, which is annoying.
HP has "in sourced" their call centers for their commercial customers due to complaints like that.
Call center in Canada, and one in... TX? maybe. I forget. They all have drawls though, which is annoying.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (AkOaV)
384
Oh hell, you could do that in the Midwest.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (ZKzrr
Pig ranchers in Iowa?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (ZKzrr
Pig ranchers in Iowa?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (QyBQv)
385
"A not insignificant number of coeds doing those lefty Third World
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types. "
They spend some time watching the Amazing Race, and suddenly, they think they know all about exotic places.
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types. "
They spend some time watching the Amazing Race, and suddenly, they think they know all about exotic places.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (VPLuQ)
386
Call center in Canada, and one in... TX? maybe. I forget. They all have drawls though, which is annoying.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (AkOaV
Well f*ck me to tears, a drawal or twang compared to some 3rd world asshole who I can't understand? I know who I wish to speak with.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (AkOaV
Well f*ck me to tears, a drawal or twang compared to some 3rd world asshole who I can't understand? I know who I wish to speak with.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (QyBQv)
387
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (8XRCm)
never happen, but yes it would help dramatically with the economic illiteracy problem in this country.
never happen, but yes it would help dramatically with the economic illiteracy problem in this country.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (AkOaV)
388
thus it goes to phantom cities and dragon zoos.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
Can I get an AMEN!
http://tinyurl.com/k22sa79
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
Can I get an AMEN!
http://tinyurl.com/k22sa79
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (sWgE+)
389
I used to work for a company with call centers. Had them all over: New York, Colorado, India, etc. The one I enjoyed working with the most was down in Monterrey, Mexico. For some reason they were always the easiest to deal with and spoke excellent English.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (LA7Cm)
Story time!
I once had to call HP for an issue. My initial call was to Bangalore but I had a very lovely young lady with a very lovely accent who spoke English quite well who assured me that, not to worry, she was just to find out what type of problem I had and then I would be sent back to a US call center.
I got transferred to either somewhere in Texas or to someone from deep deep deep rural Texas. About ten minutes into that call, I nearly said "Yeah, put the chick from Bangalore back on."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 04:57 PM (LA7Cm)
Story time!
I once had to call HP for an issue. My initial call was to Bangalore but I had a very lovely young lady with a very lovely accent who spoke English quite well who assured me that, not to worry, she was just to find out what type of problem I had and then I would be sent back to a US call center.
I got transferred to either somewhere in Texas or to someone from deep deep deep rural Texas. About ten minutes into that call, I nearly said "Yeah, put the chick from Bangalore back on."
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 18, 2015 05:02 PM (mf5HN)
390
Son dropped by to say he's applying for a job with a landscaping company tomorrow while he takes a couple of classes this summer.
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (FsuaD)
He'll be managing it by August.
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (FsuaD)
He'll be managing it by August.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:02 PM (V+kmg)
391
Call center in Canada, and one in... TX? maybe. I forget. They all have drawls though, which is annoying.
Well bless your heart.
Well bless your heart.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (0HooB)
392
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (QyBQv)
Ha.
My point was just that while the accent may be difficult for us to understand, Indians do speak English.
And all call centers are annoying. I hate talking to people who read off scripts for a living.
I feel like I'm in a shitty movie.
Ha.
My point was just that while the accent may be difficult for us to understand, Indians do speak English.
And all call centers are annoying. I hate talking to people who read off scripts for a living.
I feel like I'm in a shitty movie.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (AkOaV)
393
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (sWgE+)
Damn you to hell. May you be kidnapped by Hillary! and forced to service her for the next decade.
Damn you to hell. May you be kidnapped by Hillary! and forced to service her for the next decade.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (FsuaD)
394
>>"A not insignificant number of coeds doing those lefty Third World
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types. "
They spend some time watching the Amazing Race, and suddenly, they think they know all about exotic places.
I have exotic place for American slut to visit!
"peace" trips are frankly just looking to get laid by smelly ethnic
types. "
They spend some time watching the Amazing Race, and suddenly, they think they know all about exotic places.
I have exotic place for American slut to visit!
Posted by: Achmed at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (sQzB6)
395
Elites think they are exempt from the fascist. They will donate to them to be "cool" and "multicultural" until the iron hits the fire. Then F#%**%$#@ck them (abbreviated version). WE must define and defwend (sorry, Elmer was a distant cousin) we who know the difference from evil. they do not have a clue, sadly.....
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (FIvdS)
396
130 That trumpet sounds article in Drudge yesterday was freaky.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
----------.-------------------------------
I saw (and heard the video) on American Thinker this morning. Creepy is not a good word.
It's almost a Biblical harbinger
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (/HX7u)
Since reading this post, I went looking for this article/video. The video at American Thinker won't play and I can't find it on drudge.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at May 18, 2015 04:03 PM (pcOFB)
----------.-------------------------------
I saw (and heard the video) on American Thinker this morning. Creepy is not a good word.
It's almost a Biblical harbinger
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 04:09 PM (/HX7u)
Since reading this post, I went looking for this article/video. The video at American Thinker won't play and I can't find it on drudge.
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (sPp6M)
397
Recall that at the very beginning of his first term President Barry and Biden both said during a number of speeches that they would do things that made no economic sense, they would fundamentally transform what America was and Barry in particular said on a number of occasions that he was going to change how the economy works so that there would no longer be boom and bust cycles. Not to mention his many speeches in 2012 that "Capitalism has proved it doesn't work".
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (NHtMs)
398
"Posted by: China at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM"
At least you have Baby Formula. That dog Bush blew up all of our "baby milk factories" that were not, I repeat, were not hiding weapons.
"Posted by: China at May 18, 2015 04:51 PM"
At least you have Baby Formula. That dog Bush blew up all of our "baby milk factories" that were not, I repeat, were not hiding weapons.
Posted by: Bagdhad Bob at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (OD2ni)
399
Pig ranchers in Iowa?
Detasslers, anyway.
Half of Somalia has relocated to Minneapolis.
There's a school on Indy's south side where the kids spreading TB speak 67 different languages that are not English.
Etc, etc.
Detasslers, anyway.
Half of Somalia has relocated to Minneapolis.
There's a school on Indy's south side where the kids spreading TB speak 67 different languages that are not English.
Etc, etc.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (ZKzrr)
400
Pig ranchers in Iowa?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (QyBQv)
-----
**narrows eyes**
... watch it Buster...
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:00 PM (QyBQv)
-----
**narrows eyes**
... watch it Buster...
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (8XRCm)
401
Can I get an AMEN!
http://tinyurl.com/k22sa79
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (sWgE+)
The Lambada. Th forbidden dance.
http://tinyurl.com/k22sa79
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (sWgE+)
The Lambada. Th forbidden dance.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (V+kmg)
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So, our chocolate ration has been increased?
Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (go5uR)
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (FsuaD)
Sorry, I'm protected from "cruel and unusual punishment". For the time begin anyways.
Sorry, I'm protected from "cruel and unusual punishment". For the time begin anyways.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (sWgE+)
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390 Son dropped by to say he's applying for a job with a landscaping company tomorrow while he takes a couple of classes this summer.
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (FsuaD
No ......strike that.
No, people whose heritage is south of the border around?
Doing the job yutes won't do.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 04:59 PM (FsuaD
No ......strike that.
No, people whose heritage is south of the border around?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (QyBQv)
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He'll be managing it by August.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:02 PM (V+kmg)
He'll have to brush up on his high school Spanish.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:02 PM (V+kmg)
He'll have to brush up on his high school Spanish.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (FsuaD)
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The Lambada. Th forbidden dance.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (V+kmg)
Lambada Lambada Lambada. Latino fraternity.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (V+kmg)
Lambada Lambada Lambada. Latino fraternity.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (2Ojst)
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393: Jane, Hillary will not last a decade, someone, eventually will spill water on her and, gone.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (ucDmr)
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>>IIRC the reason for the potential real estate bubble is that the Chinese citizens do not trust putting their money in other places. So they are over investing in real estate.
Another problem with Chinese real estate, it sucks. We went over to Macau while I was there to visit the brand spanking new University of Macau. Enormous place, built to house 50,000 students and to replace the old campus which is a cramped spot in downtown Macau. It was also a bribe by the Chinese government to get Macau to play ball in a more friendly way.
Only problem is the place is a ghost town. Less than 5,000 total students and it is already falling apart because Chinese don't do maintenance.
The Chinese philosophy of build it and they will come doesn't seem to be working out all that well for them. Spanking new buildings, planned and built by the government regardless of market conditions, turns out not to be such a great idea.
Another problem with Chinese real estate, it sucks. We went over to Macau while I was there to visit the brand spanking new University of Macau. Enormous place, built to house 50,000 students and to replace the old campus which is a cramped spot in downtown Macau. It was also a bribe by the Chinese government to get Macau to play ball in a more friendly way.
Only problem is the place is a ghost town. Less than 5,000 total students and it is already falling apart because Chinese don't do maintenance.
The Chinese philosophy of build it and they will come doesn't seem to be working out all that well for them. Spanking new buildings, planned and built by the government regardless of market conditions, turns out not to be such a great idea.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (g1DWB)
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**narrows eyes**
... watch it Buster...
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (8XRCm)
I keed, I keed.
But, someone has to raise the pigs.
... watch it Buster...
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 05:04 PM (8XRCm)
I keed, I keed.
But, someone has to raise the pigs.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (QyBQv)
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I wonder what our economy would look like if we started making our own products again.
And if we had politicians who actually knew something about capitalism and would dedicate themselves to the genuine well-being of their fellow countrymen.
And if I had a pony.
And if we had politicians who actually knew something about capitalism and would dedicate themselves to the genuine well-being of their fellow countrymen.
And if I had a pony.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (0HooB)
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He'll have to brush up on his high school Spanish.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (FsuaD)
Busllshit.
They'll have to brush up on their Marine.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (FsuaD)
Busllshit.
They'll have to brush up on their Marine.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
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Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (AkOaV)
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"Freedom to Choose" should be broadcast in schools on a continuous loop for all children K-12
A couple of years ago I taught a finance and economics class at a Hebrew high school. (Yes, I taught business to the joos). It was a mixed grade elective class in high school.
Friedman didn't translate to Kids These Days. I tried it. You want to know the one absolute killer app that did? It was the "Keynes vs. Hayek" rap song. There really is a lot packed into that.
So we'd watch the video and I'd write down concepts on the white board as it played and we'd talk about what it meant.
The funniest bit was having to explain "hair of the dog".
Friedman does not get enough credit. The man was brilliant and an EXCELLENT communicator.
I'm a HUGE fan. Everyone should watch some of his videos on youtube whenever they get a chance.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 04:53 PM (AkOaV)
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"Freedom to Choose" should be broadcast in schools on a continuous loop for all children K-12
A couple of years ago I taught a finance and economics class at a Hebrew high school. (Yes, I taught business to the joos). It was a mixed grade elective class in high school.
Friedman didn't translate to Kids These Days. I tried it. You want to know the one absolute killer app that did? It was the "Keynes vs. Hayek" rap song. There really is a lot packed into that.
So we'd watch the video and I'd write down concepts on the white board as it played and we'd talk about what it meant.
The funniest bit was having to explain "hair of the dog".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (JtwS4)
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Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:03 PM (NHtMs)
Yeah, they're economically illiterate IDIOTS who think socialism works.
Which is really all I need to know. Only an idiot would think anything about socialism is preferable to free markets (I hate using the marxist-tinged term "capitalism" since capital is not the idea behind our economic system, free markets is).
But, alas, a lot of idiots in our country. Who, of course, are encouraged by the True Believers, who are also idiots.
Yeah, they're economically illiterate IDIOTS who think socialism works.
Which is really all I need to know. Only an idiot would think anything about socialism is preferable to free markets (I hate using the marxist-tinged term "capitalism" since capital is not the idea behind our economic system, free markets is).
But, alas, a lot of idiots in our country. Who, of course, are encouraged by the True Believers, who are also idiots.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)
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Busllshit.
They'll have to brush up on their Marine.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
Which involves mostly "F" bombs.
They'll have to brush up on their Marine.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
Which involves mostly "F" bombs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (FsuaD)
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alexthechic
By other places I meant within the economy of China. I should have made that more clear.
By other places I meant within the economy of China. I should have made that more clear.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 05:07 PM (RJMhd)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (JtwS4)
yeah, the keynes v hayek rap is hilarious. reason.tv had an interview with the econ professor who wrote and produced it.
He basically said, "gotta speak the language of the kids, ya know?"
yeah, the keynes v hayek rap is hilarious. reason.tv had an interview with the econ professor who wrote and produced it.
He basically said, "gotta speak the language of the kids, ya know?"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:07 PM (AkOaV)
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I break my "no wrg500 links" policy once...
Oh well, it could have been worse...
http://tinyurl.com/k8trauz
Oh well, it could have been worse...
http://tinyurl.com/k8trauz
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 05:07 PM (DT3rQ)
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>>It's legally prohibited from investing in other places by which I mean foreign investments.
Interesting. This was one of the things mentioned in the book I read about the inflation in pre world war 2 Germany and Austria...Their money was worth nothing so the government tried to force them to keep it local.
Interesting. This was one of the things mentioned in the book I read about the inflation in pre world war 2 Germany and Austria...Their money was worth nothing so the government tried to force them to keep it local.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (lIU4e)
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Recently, I was a little worried for my job. I've noticed my workload gradually tapering down over the past few years, leading me to suspect that my position is becoming obsolete. I'd been wondering for a while just how much longer they'd find it worthwhile to keep me on the payroll.
With my current skillset, if I got the axe, I knew I was looking at, at best, starting over someplace else at like half of what I'm making now. I was beginning to plan for losing my job, cashing out my 401(k) and using the money to learn something more marketable, like HVAC repair or something.
Well, last week, my supervisor came to me and asked me if I'd like to take over the duties of another job that recently opened up, in addition to my current duties. "Yes, thank you! I would like that very much", was my response.
So, yay! My job is safe for now.
With my current skillset, if I got the axe, I knew I was looking at, at best, starting over someplace else at like half of what I'm making now. I was beginning to plan for losing my job, cashing out my 401(k) and using the money to learn something more marketable, like HVAC repair or something.
Well, last week, my supervisor came to me and asked me if I'd like to take over the duties of another job that recently opened up, in addition to my current duties. "Yes, thank you! I would like that very much", was my response.
So, yay! My job is safe for now.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (GWIIN)
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Economy according to me:
Carter years: the suck - high inflation, high interest rates, few jobs.
Reagan years: You wanna job? You're hired. Millions per month added to taxpaying rolls.
Bush the Elder (4 years) - just leave it the hell alone and don't raise taxes. He raises taxes, and...
Clinton years: just leave it the hell alone and don't raise taxes. He pretty much does until some underage Chinese whore entices him. The shit begins as he grants China Permanent MFT.
Bush II years: Lotta shit going on so he barely notices 60,000 factories shutting down as a result of Clinton getting his dick wet with the underage Chinese whore.
Financial crisis and...
Obama years: No job growth. What is needed is China Permanent MFT with some different commie.
Carter years: the suck - high inflation, high interest rates, few jobs.
Reagan years: You wanna job? You're hired. Millions per month added to taxpaying rolls.
Bush the Elder (4 years) - just leave it the hell alone and don't raise taxes. He raises taxes, and...
Clinton years: just leave it the hell alone and don't raise taxes. He pretty much does until some underage Chinese whore entices him. The shit begins as he grants China Permanent MFT.
Bush II years: Lotta shit going on so he barely notices 60,000 factories shutting down as a result of Clinton getting his dick wet with the underage Chinese whore.
Financial crisis and...
Obama years: No job growth. What is needed is China Permanent MFT with some different commie.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (xQX/f)
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wr5499.5: YOU HAVE BLACK DEMOCRATIUM????? Damn. You could make a living in Saudi, If you like sheep>>>
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (FIvdS)
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http://tinyurl.com/k8trauz
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 05:07 PM (DT3rQ)
I like it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 05:07 PM (DT3rQ)
I like it.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (sWgE+)
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I really feel sorry for whoever has to braid Rodham's pubes every morning. That job has to suck.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (ucDmr)
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Which is really all I need to know. Only an idiot would think anything about socialism is preferable to free markets (I hate using the marxist-tinged term "capitalism" since capital is not the idea behind our economic system, free markets is).
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)
The problem with kids these days is that no one has ever told them that "fair" is an abstract concept.
So they run around complaining that it's not "fair" that some people are poor. Left unasked is the question, "How does one's personal choices effect their income?"
But I digress....
Fair is indeed an abstract concept.
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)
The problem with kids these days is that no one has ever told them that "fair" is an abstract concept.
So they run around complaining that it's not "fair" that some people are poor. Left unasked is the question, "How does one's personal choices effect their income?"
But I digress....
Fair is indeed an abstract concept.
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (V+kmg)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (g1DWB)
China has "gamed" the GDP metric (like our government does) but cranking government spending in to over drive and representing that as "real economic growth."
They have to build ghost cities and throw away money or their economy will contract. Rapidly.
They know it. So does the rest of the world.
Their economic situation is VERY precarious.
China has "gamed" the GDP metric (like our government does) but cranking government spending in to over drive and representing that as "real economic growth."
They have to build ghost cities and throw away money or their economy will contract. Rapidly.
They know it. So does the rest of the world.
Their economic situation is VERY precarious.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (AkOaV)
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I really feel sorry for whoever has to braid Rodham's pubes every morning. That job has to suck.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (ucDmr)
All work is honorable.
Except that.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (ucDmr)
All work is honorable.
Except that.
Posted by: Mike Rowe at May 18, 2015 05:10 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 05:10 PM (LA7Cm)
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Soon....
Posted by: The Barrel at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (h4vJk)
Zombie will do a photo essay, "What I Saw in the AOS Barrel". You will be repelled, and fascinated.
Posted by: The Barrel at May 18, 2015 04:22 PM (h4vJk)
Zombie will do a photo essay, "What I Saw in the AOS Barrel". You will be repelled, and fascinated.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2015 05:10 PM (QkWlQ)
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He basically said, "gotta speak the language of the kids, ya know?"
Totally.
It's not that I'm that smart or know how to talk to Kids These Days despite having a brace of them. I was just flailing about looking for ways to get through and Keynes v. Hayek totally did.
He basically said, "gotta speak the language of the kids, ya know?"
Totally.
It's not that I'm that smart or know how to talk to Kids These Days despite having a brace of them. I was just flailing about looking for ways to get through and Keynes v. Hayek totally did.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 05:11 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Adjoran at May 18, 2015 05:11 PM (QIQ6j)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (V+kmg)
Well, it's also how the word "fair" is used.
People will say "its not fair that John gets to sit around all day and play Candy Crush, while Joe and Josh build a skate ramp, and John gets to skate on it as often as Joe and Josh do."
People will also say, "it's not fair that Joe and Josh built a skate ramp, but won't let anyone else use it."
It's all in how its presented to people I guess.
But you can phrase things in a way to get most people to say "it's not fair that someone who doesnt work gets to live off welfare and live a lifestyle similar to those who do work".
But those same people will say "its not fair that someone has to starve to death just because they can't find a job"
Well, it's also how the word "fair" is used.
People will say "its not fair that John gets to sit around all day and play Candy Crush, while Joe and Josh build a skate ramp, and John gets to skate on it as often as Joe and Josh do."
People will also say, "it's not fair that Joe and Josh built a skate ramp, but won't let anyone else use it."
It's all in how its presented to people I guess.
But you can phrase things in a way to get most people to say "it's not fair that someone who doesnt work gets to live off welfare and live a lifestyle similar to those who do work".
But those same people will say "its not fair that someone has to starve to death just because they can't find a job"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:12 PM (AkOaV)
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They'll have to brush up on their Marine.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
Which involves mostly "F" bombs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM
Obligatory
http://tinyurl.com/lhcpee7
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)
Which involves mostly "F" bombs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:06 PM
Obligatory
http://tinyurl.com/lhcpee7
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:12 PM (V+kmg)
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Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:08 PM (GWIIN)
I just built a timed test in our learning software for a class. My professor says "I'll need you to show me how to do that so I don't become dependent on you."
My response: "Job security yo"
She said "you don't want this job long term."
I pointed out it is *A* job in a shitty economy, which I have no hope will get better.
(Plus I'm raising a future 'ette.)
I just built a timed test in our learning software for a class. My professor says "I'll need you to show me how to do that so I don't become dependent on you."
My response: "Job security yo"
She said "you don't want this job long term."
I pointed out it is *A* job in a shitty economy, which I have no hope will get better.
(Plus I'm raising a future 'ette.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 05:13 PM (U8W/7)
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>>Zombie will do a photo essay, "What I Saw in the AOS Barrel". You will be repelled, and fascinated.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
And the Barrel will be placed in the middle of the street at the Folsom Street Fair. The surprise is what comes in the bung hole.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
And the Barrel will be placed in the middle of the street at the Folsom Street Fair. The surprise is what comes in the bung hole.
Posted by: Aviator at May 18, 2015 05:13 PM (sQzB6)
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Obligatory
http://tinyurl.com/lhcpee7
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:12 PM (V+kmg)
OMG. Son *loves* that. Has every line memorized.
http://tinyurl.com/lhcpee7
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:12 PM (V+kmg)
OMG. Son *loves* that. Has every line memorized.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:13 PM (FsuaD)
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HR... I have been out of the military for awhile (35yrs). But I thought the bombs were all laser guided now.... OH! Danm those MARINES!!! They always always find a way to do things the right way!+eleventy and all kind a' splodey shit.
HOORA!!!
HOORA!!!
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (FIvdS)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 05:11 PM (JtwS4)
Yeah. It's all in the presentation.
The concepts are not very difficult. Getting people interested in is the hard part.
Yeah. It's all in the presentation.
The concepts are not very difficult. Getting people interested in is the hard part.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (LA7Cm)
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China has "gamed" the GDP metric (like our government does) but cranking government spending in to over drive and representing that as "real economic growth."
Don't think for a minute that China didn't subsidize their takeover of our manufacturing sector. As did other countries.
There was nothing at all "accidental" about our Disappearing Manufacturing Sector. Every fucking bit of it was engineered from the start, specifically to hurt us.
Just like TFG and his band of Merry Marxists.
Those assholes can't just leave people alone. They can't imitate us and become prosperous through freedom and individuality. They have to tear down the successful or steal something outright.
Those who crave power are sick.
#WASTF
Don't think for a minute that China didn't subsidize their takeover of our manufacturing sector. As did other countries.
There was nothing at all "accidental" about our Disappearing Manufacturing Sector. Every fucking bit of it was engineered from the start, specifically to hurt us.
Just like TFG and his band of Merry Marxists.
Those assholes can't just leave people alone. They can't imitate us and become prosperous through freedom and individuality. They have to tear down the successful or steal something outright.
Those who crave power are sick.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (0HooB)
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For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Pffft. Little person.
Pffft. Little person.
Posted by: Eleanor Holmes Norton at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (LAe3v)
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But I thought the bombs were all laser guided now.... OH! Danm those MARINES!!! They always always find a way to do things the right way!+eleventy and all kind a' splodey shit.
HOORA!!!
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (FIvdS)
Somebody's gotta paint the target with the laser so it can indeed be laser-guided.
Of course....even that it being done by drones now.
HOORA!!!
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (FIvdS)
Somebody's gotta paint the target with the laser so it can indeed be laser-guided.
Of course....even that it being done by drones now.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:15 PM (V+kmg)
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Zombie will do a photo essay, "What I Saw in the AOS Barrel". You will be repelled, and fascinated.
I have to say, it was rather bizarre and more than a little disturbing.
I have to say, it was rather bizarre and more than a little disturbing.
Posted by: Inflatable Scrotum Man at May 18, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:14 PM (0HooB)
Uh... subsidize?
China financed it.
They're a communist country. The government (and party cronies) own controlling stakes in all major companies.
Which is neither here nor there but yeah, they're exactly a bastion of free markets (although, to be fair, neither are we. Or our European friends.)
Uh... subsidize?
China financed it.
They're a communist country. The government (and party cronies) own controlling stakes in all major companies.
Which is neither here nor there but yeah, they're exactly a bastion of free markets (although, to be fair, neither are we. Or our European friends.)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 05:16 PM (AkOaV)
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Fair is indeed an abstract concept.
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: Sean Bannion
That is the whole Social Justice thing in a nutshell. Thank you for putting it succinctly. It reminds me of a friend of mine in Jr High. Whenever he wanted to borrow his brother's very high horsepower car and his brother said no my friend would say, "Well, you're not using it right now!" and for a while his brother would beat him up but over time, with parents' intervention, when my friend would whine about it not being used his brother started loaning it to him. I think that is the same place today's yoots are getting this thing about, "Well, Jose and Adul are 19 and only make $10/hr washing dishes while the owner makes $100k a year. It's not fair! Pay them $25k/yr now!".
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: Sean Bannion
That is the whole Social Justice thing in a nutshell. Thank you for putting it succinctly. It reminds me of a friend of mine in Jr High. Whenever he wanted to borrow his brother's very high horsepower car and his brother said no my friend would say, "Well, you're not using it right now!" and for a while his brother would beat him up but over time, with parents' intervention, when my friend would whine about it not being used his brother started loaning it to him. I think that is the same place today's yoots are getting this thing about, "Well, Jose and Adul are 19 and only make $10/hr washing dishes while the owner makes $100k a year. It's not fair! Pay them $25k/yr now!".
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:17 PM (NHtMs)
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But you can phrase things in a way to get most people to say "it's not fair that someone who doesnt work gets to live off welfare and live a lifestyle similar to those who do work".
Similar?!? Some of those SOBs are better off than we are!
Similar?!? Some of those SOBs are better off than we are!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 05:17 PM (DT3rQ)
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tsrblke, if you are still here, the University of Minnesota proposes new safety, ethics oversight of research
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lqe2dw2
Maybe there is a job there for you at some point.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lqe2dw2
Maybe there is a job there for you at some point.
Posted by: johnd01 at May 18, 2015 05:17 PM (ukNFU)
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Fair is indeed an abstract concept.
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (V+kmg)
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"Fair" is where justice is blind and the rule of law applies equally. If I rob a store, I get 10 years. If a Baltimore thug robs a store to protest someone he doesn't know dying in the back of a paddy wagon, he should also get 10 years. The last thing in the world that should happen is that the government create "safe spaces" to riot, loot, and destroy.
For example, I think it's not "fair" that I'm not allowed to mow down jaywalkers in DC traffic.
Now get off my lawn...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:09 PM (V+kmg)
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"Fair" is where justice is blind and the rule of law applies equally. If I rob a store, I get 10 years. If a Baltimore thug robs a store to protest someone he doesn't know dying in the back of a paddy wagon, he should also get 10 years. The last thing in the world that should happen is that the government create "safe spaces" to riot, loot, and destroy.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 18, 2015 05:19 PM (5f5bM)
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I hate talking to people who read off scripts for a living.
Let me be clear. You will be audited.
Let me be clear. You will be audited.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 18, 2015 05:19 PM (g+Td3)
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DANG, I killed the Blog again?...Well at least I'm consistent. HEY, Hold on youse guys ( and moronettes ('specially).....I Love This Bar.....
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:19 PM (FIvdS)
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Why don't the elites celebrate this, instead of trying to cover it up?
Torches and Pitchforks coming for them?
Torches and Pitchforks coming for them?
Posted by: Paladin at May 18, 2015 05:20 PM (DPvCq)
Posted by: Cher at May 18, 2015 05:20 PM (W5DcG)
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They're a communist country. The government (and party cronies) own controlling stakes in all major companies.
Well, I was trying to be semi-cordial, despite the rest of my rant.
Yeah, President Boy would definitely start concentrating more on good, interesting jobs for the people here. I still can't figure out why that's not a lot more politically profitable.
Back to wanting my pony now.
Well, I was trying to be semi-cordial, despite the rest of my rant.
Yeah, President Boy would definitely start concentrating more on good, interesting jobs for the people here. I still can't figure out why that's not a lot more politically profitable.
Back to wanting my pony now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:20 PM (0HooB)
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Ugh. Adrian Robinson Jr hanged himself. RIP.
Ugh. Adrian Robinson Jr hanged himself. RIP.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 05:21 PM (iQIUe)
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"If a Baltimore thug robs a store to protest someone he doesn't know dying in the back of a paddy wagon, he should also get 10 years. The last thing in the world that should happen is that the government create "safe spaces" to riot, loot, and destroy."
You run your city your way.
I'll run my city my way.
You run your city your way.
I'll run my city my way.
Posted by: Stephie Rawlings-Blake, Super genius at May 18, 2015 05:22 PM (VPLuQ)
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A 40-something childless progressive acquaintance of mine who lives his whole life bouncing from one libral cause to another, is currently participating in the 5 day California Bike Ride for Climate Change and is begging for donations which will be given to groups made up of lawyers and environmentalist that spend most of their time suing productive citizens and lobbying for more regulations on productive citizens. He is just one of many millions more just like him in this country. This is not unrelated to the problems discussed above.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at May 18, 2015 05:22 PM (1BQGO)
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Posted by: johnd01 at May 18, 2015 05:17 PM (ukNFU)
Humorously UM has a large bioethics center with not one but 2 renowned bioethicists.
And yet they fucked it all up and will likely see an OHRP investigation (if not a congressional one) and sanctions.
I have no doubt they'll be looking for many people soon, who will likely be used as whipping boys over that mess.
But I'm tied to this town and my wife's job.
Humorously UM has a large bioethics center with not one but 2 renowned bioethicists.
And yet they fucked it all up and will likely see an OHRP investigation (if not a congressional one) and sanctions.
I have no doubt they'll be looking for many people soon, who will likely be used as whipping boys over that mess.
But I'm tied to this town and my wife's job.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 05:22 PM (U8W/7)
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Let me be clear. You will be audited.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 18, 2015 05:19 PM (g+Td3)
Wait here a moment.
*grabs bullhorn*
Attention, Horde!! Attention! Who hasn't been letting Barry be clear lately?
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 18, 2015 05:19 PM (g+Td3)
Wait here a moment.
*grabs bullhorn*
Attention, Horde!! Attention! Who hasn't been letting Barry be clear lately?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:24 PM (V+kmg)
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#433: Yeah, my supervisor seemed to feel like she needed to pitch the idea to me and sell me on it for some reason. She came right out and told it would be job security for me. Yes, indeed, it will, and so I'm all over it. Thanks, boss!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:24 PM (GWIIN)
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Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho
Georgie Porgie's got to go
Too bad they can't fire him and then have a perp walk for pics after. I'd love to see his smarmy little grin turned up side down.
Georgie Porgie's got to go
Too bad they can't fire him and then have a perp walk for pics after. I'd love to see his smarmy little grin turned up side down.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 18, 2015 05:24 PM (zRby/)
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Joe Biden reports that they determined the cause of the train derailment.
It came off the rails.
Case closed.
Send more money.
It came off the rails.
Case closed.
Send more money.
Posted by: Stephie Rawlings-Blake, Super genius at May 18, 2015 05:25 PM (VPLuQ)
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But I'm tied to this town and my wife's job.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 05:22 PM (U8W/7)
Sounds hawt
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at May 18, 2015 05:22 PM (U8W/7)
Sounds hawt
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 18, 2015 05:25 PM (V+kmg)
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Ugh. Adrian Robinson Jr hanged himself. RIP.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 05:21 PM (iQIUe)
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I have no idea who this is. A friend of yours?
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 05:21 PM (iQIUe)
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I have no idea who this is. A friend of yours?
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 05:25 PM (/HX7u)
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Time to change socks, again
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (VPLuQ)
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*grabs bullhorn*
Attention, Horde!! Attention! Who hasn't been letting Barry be clear lately?
I mute his sorry ass every chance I get. Does that count?
Attention, Horde!! Attention! Who hasn't been letting Barry be clear lately?
I mute his sorry ass every chance I get. Does that count?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (FsuaD)
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That is the whole Social Justice thing in a nutshell. Thank you for putting it succinctly. It reminds me of a friend of mine in Jr High. Whenever he wanted to borrow his brother's very high horsepower car and his brother said no my friend would say, "Well, you're not using it right now!" and for a while his brother would beat him up but over time, with parents' intervention, when my friend would whine about it not being used his brother started loaning it to him. I think that is the same place today's yoots are getting this thing about, "Well, Jose and Adul are 19 and only make $10/hr washing dishes while the owner makes $100k a year. It's not fair! Pay them $25k/yr now!".
Took the family to the beach many years ago. Two twenty-somethings just walked up to us and axed to use our brand new flotation devices that we'd just bought.
I said, "No." They then started getting snippy with me, saying, "Well, you're not using them."
Me: "That's right. Run along now."
Took the family to the beach many years ago. Two twenty-somethings just walked up to us and axed to use our brand new flotation devices that we'd just bought.
I said, "No." They then started getting snippy with me, saying, "Well, you're not using them."
Me: "That's right. Run along now."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (0HooB)
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I have no idea who this is. A friend of yours?
Posted by: Soona
Google told me he played with the football.
Posted by: Soona
Google told me he played with the football.
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:26 PM (XWo4d)
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441: *(nobody told THEM about mirrors yet. have they?) ssshhhh.*
OH, CRAP!11!!! Sorry Atc.....Love you....Really.... Really!!! They were ENHANCING mirrors!!!
*slinks away*
OH, CRAP!11!!! Sorry Atc.....Love you....Really.... Really!!! They were ENHANCING mirrors!!!
*slinks away*
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:27 PM (FIvdS)
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Huh. A while ago MSNBC informed me that one of the biker gangs is...Hispanic.
I'm actually shocked they'd report that.
I'm actually shocked they'd report that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 05:27 PM (FsuaD)
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JackStraw
Just saw your comment on Macau interesting like a heart attack. Someone was telling me about their train travel from Hong Kong to Guangzhou and they said that it might have been the inspiration for the dystopia of Blade Runner.
Just saw your comment on Macau interesting like a heart attack. Someone was telling me about their train travel from Hong Kong to Guangzhou and they said that it might have been the inspiration for the dystopia of Blade Runner.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 05:27 PM (RJMhd)
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I had something kinda funny today. At our head office there are a number of attorneys and another guy and I have essentially the same job with the same staff help. Well, the other attorney made one of the staff angry to day so when we were both in court, she trashed and TP'd his office. Thinking that wasn't good enough, she then cleaned and straightened up my office. (I'm a bit of a slob.) So I get a free office cleaning for simply not making her mad.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 05:28 PM (ZKzrr)
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463: You should change your socks weekly.....At least left foot to right foot.
Posted by: Dennis at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (FIvdS)
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>>>Yeah, President Boy would definitely start concentrating more on good, interesting jobs for the people here. I still can't figure out why that's not a lot more politically profitable.
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The other day I was pondering this and the idea that "the wrong people" are working according to King Putt suddenly came to mind.
If you figure that he really does blame White Devils and the Joos for all ills most of what he does makes a lot of sense. Not to mention the classic Chicago system where only Unions and Democratic supporters get jobs.
God I hate that man.
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The other day I was pondering this and the idea that "the wrong people" are working according to King Putt suddenly came to mind.
If you figure that he really does blame White Devils and the Joos for all ills most of what he does makes a lot of sense. Not to mention the classic Chicago system where only Unions and Democratic supporters get jobs.
God I hate that man.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:29 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: Dang at May 18, 2015 05:30 PM (XWo4d)
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Is anyone using Kate Upton right now?
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at May 18, 2015 05:34 PM (NHtMs)
476
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 03:48 PM (FsuaD)
I'll pray for you and your immediate family. Your niece not so much.
I'll pray for you and your immediate family. Your niece not so much.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (3eZI/)
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Stink. Stank. Stunk. That reminds me of a Christmas TV show song from the 60's.
Posted by: brgerbilder at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (+jijM)
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MSNBC informed you that one of the biker gangs is...Hispanic???
Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 18, 2015 05:36 PM (sCHw2)
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#475: Oh, I'm sure lots of guys are "using" her right now, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 18, 2015 05:37 PM (GWIIN)
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>>Just saw your comment on Macau interesting like a heart attack. Someone was telling me about their train travel from Hong Kong to Guangzhou and they said that it might have been the inspiration for the dystopia of Blade Runner.
Heh. I did a tour of China last fall, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. We did some of it by plane, the rest by train.
First off, not all of the train routes are straight lines. They have curves in China too. But the really striking thing is the vast differences between urban and rural China. Shanghai is a very modern city that would look at home anywhere in the developed world. But 10 miles outside the city limits and you step back in time. Same with all the above cities to varying degrees.
And the smog in Beijing has to be seen to be believed. Or not seen. On the worst day, visibility was no more than 50 feet and that is not an exaggeration. Couple that with people walking around with masks over their mouths and noses and some of the "food" being sold and yea, Blade Runner.
But the Great Wall really is all that. Simply amazing what a bunch of peasants who are being starved and beaten can produce. Which gave me an interesting business model for after the burning times.
But China overall gives you the impression of a fraud. Pretty pictures about an inch deep.
Heh. I did a tour of China last fall, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. We did some of it by plane, the rest by train.
First off, not all of the train routes are straight lines. They have curves in China too. But the really striking thing is the vast differences between urban and rural China. Shanghai is a very modern city that would look at home anywhere in the developed world. But 10 miles outside the city limits and you step back in time. Same with all the above cities to varying degrees.
And the smog in Beijing has to be seen to be believed. Or not seen. On the worst day, visibility was no more than 50 feet and that is not an exaggeration. Couple that with people walking around with masks over their mouths and noses and some of the "food" being sold and yea, Blade Runner.
But the Great Wall really is all that. Simply amazing what a bunch of peasants who are being starved and beaten can produce. Which gave me an interesting business model for after the burning times.
But China overall gives you the impression of a fraud. Pretty pictures about an inch deep.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 05:37 PM (g1DWB)
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Come on now a company that has never turned a profit (huffington Post) just sold for $4 billion, all is well.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 18, 2015 05:41 PM (TV9BR)
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Well, after spending the last 8 hours trying to unfuck our supply chain, I've got an idea: allow companies to force employees to retire at 65!
Get rid of all the stupid age discrimination laws so companies can clear out all of the tenured farts who gum up the works. It would save on salary, vacation time, and health insurance costs, while there'd be more job openings for younger, more dynamic employees. We can send the baby boomers to their well-deserved euthan, er, retirement.
Get rid of all the stupid age discrimination laws so companies can clear out all of the tenured farts who gum up the works. It would save on salary, vacation time, and health insurance costs, while there'd be more job openings for younger, more dynamic employees. We can send the baby boomers to their well-deserved euthan, er, retirement.
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 18, 2015 05:56 PM (hqZPQ)
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And if we're going to spend trillions on Social Security and Medicare to support the less productive segment of the population while increasing the tax burden on the dwindling working segment of the population, then cancel all student loan debt. Treat it as a case of collective fraud perpetrated on unwary young people by sharpies in academia.
Posted by: NSA Commenter CRM114 at May 18, 2015 06:01 PM (hqZPQ)
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I am astonished this fool calls himself an economist. Perhaps I didn't read closely enough, but I could not find the word growth anywhere. Unleashing the energy sector would change the playing field overnight. Pipelines, nuclear power, and drilling everywhere could produce enough wealth to bring back manufacturing and even take some from low cost producers right now. Repealing Obamacare and stifling regulations would produce a surge in growth we have not seen in 8 years. Millineals could see the greatest expansion in their lifetimes and we could see, once again, that a rising tide lifts all the boats!
Posted by: CATO THE YOUNGER at May 18, 2015 10:45 PM (ABsUe)
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Quote:
Obama wanted to transform America into a European country.
Edging America ever more closer to socialist bankrupt state Greece, all the time. It's not going to 'just happen', it's the Commie/muslim plan.
Obama wanted to transform America into a European country.
Edging America ever more closer to socialist bankrupt state Greece, all the time. It's not going to 'just happen', it's the Commie/muslim plan.
Posted by: ron n. at May 18, 2015 11:23 PM (YVQn/)
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Obama, 'the messiah', can fix all this..... Just let him spend another 16 TRILLION DOLLARS.
THE VILLAGE FOOLS, MORONS, AND IDJITS WON'T EVEN THINK ANYTHING IS WRONG !
THE VILLAGE FOOLS, MORONS, AND IDJITS WON'T EVEN THINK ANYTHING IS WRONG !
Posted by: ron n. at May 20, 2015 11:21 PM (YVQn/)
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