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DIA Memos Prove Obama Administration Knew Benghazi Was a Planned Attack on September 16, The Day Susan Rice Was Sent Out To Lie to the Country
Via the Right Scoop, the motive was known:
According to another memo dated September 16, 2012, just FIVE DAYS after the attack on the 'consulate' in Benghazi, the Obama administration via the DNI concluded that the terrorist attack had been planned at least 10 days before the attack occurred and that it wasn’t a coincidence that it happened on the anniversary of 9/11. If you recall, the Obama administration was lying about it, saying it was a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Muhammad that got out of control. They were saying this on the very same day this DNI memo went out to different agencies including the National Security Council and the State Department. They not only concluded that it was planned ten days in advance, they also wrote why the attack was planned in this same Sept. 16 memo:Ed Morrissey notes September 16th was the date that Susan Rice was sent out to talk up a "spontaneous attack" inspired by a YouTube video. Video of Catherine Herridge reporting at both links. Update: The memo also talks about arms being sent from Benghazi to the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. Which John Sexton was writing about a year ago. Sexton based that article on already-known documents. The MSM just didn't seem to want to connect the dots on already-existing information about Benghazi.
The intention was to attack the consulate and kill as many Americans as possible to seek revenge for the U.S. kill of Aboyahiye (Alaliby) in Pakistan and in memorial of the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center buildings.
Comments
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No surprise here. We all knew it the day it happened.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (eGmvn)
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So, when will anyone in the MSM get to ask Hillary about this?
Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (rRBI0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (FsuaD)
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And?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (rDqRv)
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This too shall pass.
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (NPgvx)
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Why does it matter?
Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (uIyMM)
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Hmmmm..... The Valerie Jarrett Leak O Rama continues unabated I see.
Hmmmm..... The Valerie Jarrett Leak O Rama continues unabated I see.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (8XRCm)
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The Horde already knew this, as did many others. What will come of this? Jack and shit, and Jack already fled the jurisdiction.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (2Ojst)
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Despicable.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (ecDRv)
10
No surprise here. We all knew it the day it happened.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (eGmvn)
True. And if the media doesn't actually report it, we will still be the only ones who know. Everyone else has moved on.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:00 PM (eGmvn)
True. And if the media doesn't actually report it, we will still be the only ones who know. Everyone else has moved on.
Posted by: Lea at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (lIU4e)
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Meh, none of the democrats will care about them lying to us.
Posted by: Draki at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (0eidE)
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Of course they lied, otherwise its Bad Optics all the way down.
May Sisyphus trip and his boulder smite all these thugs and grifters that infest the government.
May Sisyphus trip and his boulder smite all these thugs and grifters that infest the government.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (21T44)
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Scandalous? You think?
Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 18, 2015 01:01 PM (6/y4x)
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Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them. Same with Obama.
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them. Same with Obama.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (A98Xu)
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Alive! it's alive!
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (Bn6aD)
16
Is video guy out of jail?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (FsuaD)
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We also already knew that the administration was using the ambassador to aid in illegally buying and transporting arms to Syria, which is why he's dead.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (eGmvn)
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I found out about this when I read it in this morning's paper.
Posted by: Barky at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (n6Nt0)
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CIA?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (LA7Cm)
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14
Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
This.
Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
This.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:03 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Hillary and Morrissey at May 18, 2015 01:03 PM (O7MnT)
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Liars gotta lie.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:04 PM (FsuaD)
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Hang on a sec., they were lying about the video thing?
Posted by: LIV at May 18, 2015 01:04 PM (/EkKm)
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21 14
Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
But.........vagina!
Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
But.........vagina!
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 01:04 PM (LAe3v)
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I saw "May Sisyphus and the Bad Optics" open for the Rolling Stones and Third Eye Blind at the Sandstone.
swidt....?
I saw "May Sisyphus and the Bad Optics" open for the Rolling Stones and Third Eye Blind at the Sandstone.
swidt....?
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (8XRCm)
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Motherfuckers
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: LIVs at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (uctT+)
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Hang on a sec., they were lying about the video thing?
Yeah imagine that... The video that hardly anyone saw...
Yeah imagine that... The video that hardly anyone saw...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (Bn6aD)
30
What video???
What video???
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (8XRCm)
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>>Can't be said enough:
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
Every GOP candidate should include video of that in their campaign ads.
Never been so angry at a politician than when Hillary kept calling him just "Chris" and recounting locals holding signs saying "We're sorry" and how the crowd was just attempting to get Chris to the ER.
Grrrr.
Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those
who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them.
Same with Obama.
Every GOP candidate should include video of that in their campaign ads.
Never been so angry at a politician than when Hillary kept calling him just "Chris" and recounting locals holding signs saying "We're sorry" and how the crowd was just attempting to get Chris to the ER.
Grrrr.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (V7QeA)
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At this point, what difference, does it make!?
Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (/EkKm)
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I'm sure someone will be held accountable.
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (5npD/)
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That video was a fake promo for a movie. Does the full movie exist?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (o68RC)
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We also already knew that the administration was using the ambassador to aid in illegally buying and transporting arms to Syria, which is why he's dead.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (eGmvn)
Technically Turkey. Stevenson had just concluded a meeting with a representative of the Turkish govt before the attack. That's why Stevenson was in Benghazi. But, yea it was a gun running operation to Syria. My question is who in Syria was Turkey selling the guns too?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (eGmvn)
Technically Turkey. Stevenson had just concluded a meeting with a representative of the Turkish govt before the attack. That's why Stevenson was in Benghazi. But, yea it was a gun running operation to Syria. My question is who in Syria was Turkey selling the guns too?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:05 PM (sWgE+)
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This morning on GMA, Susan Rice tells us why she will be carrying a mattress on her back until people stop harassing Hilary about this story.
Posted by: George Stephanopolous at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (RH2kC)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (nqiq9)
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My family and I watched a segment of "Madam Secretary" online last night, just to simultaneously amuse and piss ourselves off. The segment had the SecState (a VERY thinly veiled version of Hillary!) in essentially a re-do of Benghazi (segment being entitled something like "Not Another Benghazi"), and has Hillary hiring mercs to protect the Yemeni Embassy when those mean nasty Republicans won't spend the money to send the troops she so desperately wants. (I'm not making this up.) "It's my job to protect Embassy personnel!" she intones. (I'm not making that up either.)
Hilarious (no pun intended), and infuriating, all at the same time.
Hilarious (no pun intended), and infuriating, all at the same time.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (oKE6c)
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You are telling me these people in power will willingly lie to me?
Posted by: MostlyRight at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (fOLR/)
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I don't get it. Why? Why would they do this? They'd have to know the truth would come out eventually? Is it just a reflexive need to lie?
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (7Kbxu)
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never forget those who were murdered in Benghazi
Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
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There are those on the right who would see this as an opportunity to question the integrity of Ms Clinton.
I assure you, she is telling the truth.
I assure you, she is telling the truth.
Posted by: George Snuffelupagus at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (VPLuQ)
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The real story leaked out right after Benghazi.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (o68RC)
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It's a shame the media won't spend any time on this, preferring instead to divert the LIVs' attention to Kardashisn butts or whatever the current popular "culture" obsession is these days...
Posted by: Phil Laicheaux at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (AjVZP)
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (8ZskC)
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Doesn't matter.
The Leftist Media has transformed the word "Benghazi" into the equivalent of "tinfoil hat." The mere mention of the word is now evidence of right-wing lunatic conspiracy theories. "Birther," "Benghazi" -- they use these against us.
Wait -- the conspriacy theory is true? Too late, wingnut -- our lie slandering you has circled the world seven times already, and you Benghazi Birthers are still fiddling with your bootlaces!
The Leftist Media has transformed the word "Benghazi" into the equivalent of "tinfoil hat." The mere mention of the word is now evidence of right-wing lunatic conspiracy theories. "Birther," "Benghazi" -- they use these against us.
Wait -- the conspriacy theory is true? Too late, wingnut -- our lie slandering you has circled the world seven times already, and you Benghazi Birthers are still fiddling with your bootlaces!
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (jBuUi)
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If this POS administration had been around 2,000 years ago, they would release a statement that the Pharisees and Centurions were just trying to get Jesus some medical attention.
If this POS administration had been around 2,000 years ago, they would release a statement that the Pharisees and Centurions were just trying to get Jesus some medical attention.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (eGmvn)
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Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?
Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (Bn6aD)
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Knowing about it 10 days prior seems to be a smoking gun given the deaths of the four Americans. If they had known a DAY earlier, competent leaders could have beefed up security, no?
Posted by: Scott M at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (AdBfq)
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Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (7Kbxu)
An election 2 months away. It would of killed Obama's election chances.
An election 2 months away. It would of killed Obama's election chances.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (sWgE+)
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My mother is not a liar!
(How's that, Dad? I used the present tense to avoid addressing the past, just like you said!)
(How's that, Dad? I used the present tense to avoid addressing the past, just like you said!)
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (7Kbxu)
53
Look, just admit it. You fucked up. You trusted us.
Posted by: Obama & crew at May 18, 2015 01:07 PM (/EkKm)
54
I hesitate to comment until Staphonaknobfullofpus weighs in.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (wAQA5)
55
Lying whoresons gotta lie.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (o68RC)
56
Because people always "spontaneously" set up crew-served weapons at an impromptu protest.
Smrat.
Doplimacy.
Smrat.
Doplimacy.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (hLRSq)
57
Dude, that was two years ago. Now wheres my free sh*t?
Posted by: the 52% at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (hKyl0)
58
Aren't we always at war with east asia?
Posted by: I'm a drinker, not a thinker at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (D0Tns)
59
"Why? Why would they do this?"
Because it served the purpose at the time and they know that they won't get called out on it either.
Because it served the purpose at the time and they know that they won't get called out on it either.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (LA7Cm)
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I don't get it. Why? Why would they do this? They'd have to know the truth would come out eventually? Is it just a reflexive need to lie?
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM
It's a big "fuck you" to the rest of us.
"Yeah...we're lying. We know you know. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Because we own the media. So fuck you."
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM
It's a big "fuck you" to the rest of us.
"Yeah...we're lying. We know you know. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Because we own the media. So fuck you."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (h4vJk)
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Why tell the truth, when a lie will suffice?
Posted by: H. Clinton, Mistress of Truthiness at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (VPLuQ)
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Big deal.
We all knew the c*nt was lying from the get go.
Like the lady says, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
We all knew the c*nt was lying from the get go.
Like the lady says, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (zF6Iw)
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Did Ed Morrissey also note that it would be Bad Optics to impeach Choom Boy for this (and many other felonies and assorted treasonous acts)?
If there is no accountability, why should the regime do anything but what they want?
If there is no accountability, why should the regime do anything but what they want?
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (P8YHq)
64
So did Leon Panetta. He lied to.
It was all orchestrated to cover up for their incompetence, because it was an election year. Because to most politicians, power is really the only thing that matters.
We are in the hands of someone so fundementally banal and corrupt that is beggars the imagination.
So, get off your high horse.
It was all orchestrated to cover up for their incompetence, because it was an election year. Because to most politicians, power is really the only thing that matters.
We are in the hands of someone so fundementally banal and corrupt that is beggars the imagination.
So, get off your high horse.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (RFeQD)
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The sad part is that the MSM doesn't care that Obama is lying and neither do any democrats.
Posted by: Draki at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (skuHH)
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41 never forget those who were murdered in Benghazi
Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
They are kept under wraps and given monthly lie detector tests from what I hear.
Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods
and keep asking where the survivors are
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 18, 2015 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
They are kept under wraps and given monthly lie detector tests from what I hear.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (sWgE+)
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I hesitate to comment until Staphonaknobfullofpus weighs in.
It may be awhile. George's hotline to the Clinton Foundation is temporarily down.
It may be awhile. George's hotline to the Clinton Foundation is temporarily down.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (8ZskC)
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I hesitate to comment until Staphonaknobfullofpus weighs in.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (wAQA5)
-----
Fuck that greasy Greek newcomer. I was *there* on that rooftop during Benghazi.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (wAQA5)
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Fuck that greasy Greek newcomer. I was *there* on that rooftop during Benghazi.
Posted by: Brian Williams at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (8XRCm)
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@Kensington
Yes, it's because they have to lie. Hillary! knew she could have just kept her mouth shut, but she had to puff out her chest and lie about her badassery.
Couldn't help herself.
Also, are you a Kenzington Kenzo?
Yes, it's because they have to lie. Hillary! knew she could have just kept her mouth shut, but she had to puff out her chest and lie about her badassery.
Couldn't help herself.
Also, are you a Kenzington Kenzo?
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 18, 2015 01:09 PM (CGjum)
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and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?
---
They are essentially under house arrest, with a gag order. All about the truth, my ass.
and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?
---
They are essentially under house arrest, with a gag order. All about the truth, my ass.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (eGmvn)
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Okay, look. We reallyneeded to get Libyan arms to Syria in order to fight and win the insurgency against Bashar Assad. If we hadn't thing would have worked out so swimmingly well there...uh.
Posted by: Obama & crew at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: Millenial Voters at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (KDbAT)
74
Nitpick about the headline, ace: DIA memos or DNI? The story says the latter.
Posted by: joncelli at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
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What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/!!?!1!?!1/?
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/!!?!1!?!1/?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (HSmrB)
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16
Is video guy out of jail?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (FsuaD)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakoula_Basseley_Nakoula
Yes, but after they had their way with him for unrelated probation violations.
Is video guy out of jail?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (FsuaD)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakoula_Basseley_Nakoula
Yes, but after they had their way with him for unrelated probation violations.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (ecDRv)
77
>>The segment had the SecState (a VERY thinly veiled version of Hillary!) in essentially a re-do of Benghazi...
The show's creators have said that the show is meant to demonstrate Hillary's tenure as SoS - that they came up w/the idea while discussing how frustrating it was that Hillary didn't get enough credit for what she's done.
Seems like it should be an in-kind campaign donation, huh?
The show's creators have said that the show is meant to demonstrate Hillary's tenure as SoS - that they came up w/the idea while discussing how frustrating it was that Hillary didn't get enough credit for what she's done.
Seems like it should be an in-kind campaign donation, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (V7QeA)
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I'm sure someone will be held accountable.
Posted by: Chupacabras
..............................
Why, the persons responsible of course. And nobody is madder than me.
I'm sure someone will be held accountable.
Posted by: Chupacabras
..............................
Why, the persons responsible of course. And nobody is madder than me.
Posted by: Hussein, your Commander-In-Chief!!! at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (wAQA5)
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Because when you're taking someone to the hospital for help you always drag them along by their arms with their legs dragging on the ground!!/sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (1sJza)
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It's not technically a lie if...
you convince someone to believe it.
you convince someone to believe it.
Posted by: H. Clinton, Mistress of Truthiness at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (BZAd3)
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Can't we talk about how progressive it will be to have a woman, aka ME, in the White House?
Posted by: Hillary! at May 18, 2015 01:10 PM (uIyMM)
83
Latest polling results:
98% of Americans could not find benghazi on a map nor know what country it is in.
97% of Americans have never heard of someone named "Susan Rice."
7% of Americans even remember the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.
1% of American know who purportedly carried out the attack or what their reasons may have been.
I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
98% of Americans could not find benghazi on a map nor know what country it is in.
97% of Americans have never heard of someone named "Susan Rice."
7% of Americans even remember the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.
1% of American know who purportedly carried out the attack or what their reasons may have been.
I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (jBuUi)
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"Yeah...we're lying. We know you know. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Because we own the media. So fuck you."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (h4vJk)
I cannot repeat this enough: D-Lamp was absolutely spot on in the way we should treat the MFM.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (h4vJk)
I cannot repeat this enough: D-Lamp was absolutely spot on in the way we should treat the MFM.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (7Kbxu)
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Remember how the media *just happened* to be on the scene when video guy was arrested in the middle of the night?
That alone should chill each and every one of us.
Jack-booted thugs gotta jack-boot. Live, on camera.
That alone should chill each and every one of us.
Jack-booted thugs gotta jack-boot. Live, on camera.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (FsuaD)
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24
Hang on a sec., they were lying about the video thing?
Posted by: LIV at May 18, 2015 01:04 PM (/EkKm)
What difference does it make? It's my turn, damn it!
*stamps cankles*
Hang on a sec., they were lying about the video thing?
Posted by: LIV at May 18, 2015 01:04 PM (/EkKm)
What difference does it make? It's my turn, damn it!
*stamps cankles*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (ecDRv)
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Not sure, but I think the reason Choomboy and Hildebeast stuck to the video story is because they think Americans are idiots.
They were right.
They were right.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 01:11 PM (/HX7u)
90
>>Yes... Where are the survivors?
Yes, not only where are they, but why did Hillary and Obama essentially abandon 30+ people to terrorists? Bad enough that 4 died, but they apparently were OK if up to 30 or so were to die. That's messed up.
Yes, not only where are they, but why did Hillary and Obama essentially abandon 30+ people to terrorists? Bad enough that 4 died, but they apparently were OK if up to 30 or so were to die. That's messed up.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (V7QeA)
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And Obama and Hillary looked at the loved ones in that hangar and LIED DIRECTLY TO THEIR FACES.
Now the lying bitch will most likely become president.
Now the lying bitch will most likely become president.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (TV9BR)
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Hillary stood in front of the coffins and family members of those who died in Benghazi and lied through her teeth. Zero respect for them. Same with Obama.
Broken eggs, omelets, some assembly required.
Broken eggs, omelets, some assembly required.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (8ZskC)
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but isn't it time for a woman president?! Bush lied, Hillary was misinformed by underlings who were trying to save their own skin from the wrighteous wrath of the future Most Honest President in History!!
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (qSIlh)
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Tomorrow morning on GMA, we talk to the "Ragin' Cajun" about how Conservative Republicans' obsession with all things Benghazi will ensure a Democratic Party victory in 2016.
Posted by: George Stephanopolous at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (RH2kC)
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MSM= we really need to focus on those white bikers in Texas who killed each other.
because racism
because racism
Posted by: I'm a drinker, not a thinker at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (D0Tns)
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How did Obama know of the obscure video posted on youtube by some unknown? Does the State Department have time to browse youtube, and what search terms would one use to discover that video?
How did they know?
How did they know?
Posted by: Wagnar de Van Glad at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (wP9QF)
Posted by: AmishDude at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (Z8jx1)
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"Also, are you a Kenzington Kenzo?"
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Oh! No, my Kensington is in Brooklyn, NY, but really it's related to a pretentious Shakespeare thing I like to do.
Nobody would care.
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Oh! No, my Kensington is in Brooklyn, NY, but really it's related to a pretentious Shakespeare thing I like to do.
Nobody would care.
Posted by: Kensington at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (7Kbxu)
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MSM= we really need to focus on those white bikers in Texas who killed each other.
because racism
And GUNS! don't forget GUNS....
MSM= we really need to focus on those white bikers in Texas who killed each other.
because racism
And GUNS! don't forget GUNS....
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (Bn6aD)
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>>>Latest polling results:
47% of those who have heard of Ben Gozzi agree that it is "a Republican plot to smear Hillary because War on Women."
47% of those who have heard of Ben Gozzi agree that it is "a Republican plot to smear Hillary because War on Women."
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (O7MnT)
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Maybe keeping you out of the White House.
Posted by: Parisparamus at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (VROg+)
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If you don't know what a Kenzo is, then you aren't one.
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (sPO/s)
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So what if Obama lied.
Republicans are uncool and against gay marriage.
Posted by: Millenial Voters
This!!! This is the only problem we have!!
Republicans are uncool and against gay marriage.
Posted by: Millenial Voters
This!!! This is the only problem we have!!
Posted by: mini-moo at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (Spluw)
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"and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?"
Traumatic experiences that night prevent them from remembering the sequence of events, and the details correctly.
Best to just remember them as they were, and leave them be.
Yes... Where are the survivors?"
Traumatic experiences that night prevent them from remembering the sequence of events, and the details correctly.
Best to just remember them as they were, and leave them be.
Posted by: H. Clinton, Mistress of Truthiness at May 18, 2015 01:13 PM (VPLuQ)
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And far too little of the voting public will 1) ever know and/or 2) care at all.
Because vaginas.
Because vaginas.
Posted by: tdpwells at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (V6jvb)
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" but why did Hillary and Obama essentially abandon 30+ people to terrorists?"
Keep a lid on the underground program they had going on. Keep it quiet.
Keep a lid on the underground program they had going on. Keep it quiet.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (LA7Cm)
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Dead Marines' Families Don't Regret Effect of Benghazi Embarrassment to Clinton Presidential Campaign
Posted by: The Associated Press at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (8ZskC)
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Look, we could cover this but...you know, gay cakes and all.
Posted by: MSM at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (JoIcn)
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What Seems Legit has it. No words for the contempt, disgust, and amazement at the behavior of these little, dumb, vile creatures (Obama, Clinton, Biden) at the return of the Benghazi dead remains.
And wrg, see my (sadly, characteristically) long comment willowed in the last thread, WRT gun-running operation out of Benghazi. It doesn't change, reduce, or amplify any of the repugnant and outrageous aspects of Benghazi.
And (guilty of here of running off the road) I do not begin to understand what you could mean by said arms transfers being "illegal". Under US law? Depends on whether there was a congressional finding in place for said covert operation. Internationally? Without going into the complexity about - mostly of the absence of - "international law", which I'm sure you already know, what specific UN Chapter 6 resolutions or bi-or multi-lateral treaties made arms transfers to Syrian rebel group "illegal"?
What Seems Legit has it. No words for the contempt, disgust, and amazement at the behavior of these little, dumb, vile creatures (Obama, Clinton, Biden) at the return of the Benghazi dead remains.
And wrg, see my (sadly, characteristically) long comment willowed in the last thread, WRT gun-running operation out of Benghazi. It doesn't change, reduce, or amplify any of the repugnant and outrageous aspects of Benghazi.
And (guilty of here of running off the road) I do not begin to understand what you could mean by said arms transfers being "illegal". Under US law? Depends on whether there was a congressional finding in place for said covert operation. Internationally? Without going into the complexity about - mostly of the absence of - "international law", which I'm sure you already know, what specific UN Chapter 6 resolutions or bi-or multi-lateral treaties made arms transfers to Syrian rebel group "illegal"?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (afQnV)
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>>How did they know?
Walid Shoebat has a theory that the gov't was actually involved in the creation of the video and kept it on the back-burner. Think this is according to his cousin who worked w/Nakoula. See Shoebat's blog...
Walid Shoebat has a theory that the gov't was actually involved in the creation of the video and kept it on the back-burner. Think this is according to his cousin who worked w/Nakoula. See Shoebat's blog...
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (V7QeA)
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Does the State Department have time to browse youtube, and what search terms would one use to discover that video?
How did they know?
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Because, when the attack started, and well before most of the personnel were in imminent danger, this administration instead sent teams of staff to look through media to find something else to blame it on.
Does the State Department have time to browse youtube, and what search terms would one use to discover that video?
How did they know?
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Because, when the attack started, and well before most of the personnel were in imminent danger, this administration instead sent teams of staff to look through media to find something else to blame it on.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (eGmvn)
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Technically Turkey. Stevenson had just concluded a
meeting with a representative of the Turkish govt before the attack.
That's why Stevenson was in Benghazi. But, yea it was a gun running
operation to Syria. My question is who in Syria was Turkey selling the
guns too?
Posted by: wrg500
Yes, that would be an apt question. Many, many lives have been lost (and just not our four people at the consulate) because of this.
It is disturbing that there are at least a few people in DC that do actually know the truth, and that there is little likelihood that we will ever know the truth.
My guess is that whoever got a hold of what we were selling, it is now in the control of the al Nusrah Front or ISIS.
meeting with a representative of the Turkish govt before the attack.
That's why Stevenson was in Benghazi. But, yea it was a gun running
operation to Syria. My question is who in Syria was Turkey selling the
guns too?
Posted by: wrg500
Yes, that would be an apt question. Many, many lives have been lost (and just not our four people at the consulate) because of this.
It is disturbing that there are at least a few people in DC that do actually know the truth, and that there is little likelihood that we will ever know the truth.
My guess is that whoever got a hold of what we were selling, it is now in the control of the al Nusrah Front or ISIS.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (TV9BR)
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What a POS administration.
Leave brave men to die in Benghazi.
Trade five terrorists for a cowardly traitor. Hold Rose Garden ceremony with his idiot parents to welcome him home.
*twitches*
Leave brave men to die in Benghazi.
Trade five terrorists for a cowardly traitor. Hold Rose Garden ceremony with his idiot parents to welcome him home.
*twitches*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (FsuaD)
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93 but isn't it time for a woman president?! Bush lied, Hillary was misinformed by underlings who were trying to save their own skin from the wrighteous wrath of the future Most Honest President in History!!
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (qSIlh)
Ah, I see you're a few episodes ahead of me in watching "Madam Secretary."
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:12 PM (qSIlh)
Ah, I see you're a few episodes ahead of me in watching "Madam Secretary."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (oKE6c)
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"It's a big "fuck you" to the rest of us.
"Yeah...we're lying. We know you know. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Because we own the media. So fuck you."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (h4vJk)"
This is the motto of the Democratic Party. They ought to carve it in stone over the door of their headquarters building.
"Yeah...we're lying. We know you know. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Because we own the media. So fuck you."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2015 01:08 PM (h4vJk)"
This is the motto of the Democratic Party. They ought to carve it in stone over the door of their headquarters building.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:16 PM (D0Tns)
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Obama lied?
Give me a few minutes to try to wrap my head around this.
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Lie is such an ugly word. Let's say he goodened the optics.
Give me a few minutes to try to wrap my head around this.
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Lie is such an ugly word. Let's say he goodened the optics.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:16 PM (XUKZU)
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How did Obama know of the obscure video posted on youtube by some unknown? Does the State Department have time to browse youtube, and what search terms would one use to discover that video?
How did they know?
Posted by: Wagnar de Van Glad
Sidney Blumenthal, leftist activist and Clintoon donor, sent an email just after the attack regarding the video.
Do a web search for "guccifer" and Blumenthal.
How did they know?
Posted by: Wagnar de Van Glad
Sidney Blumenthal, leftist activist and Clintoon donor, sent an email just after the attack regarding the video.
Do a web search for "guccifer" and Blumenthal.
Posted by: LIVs at May 18, 2015 01:16 PM (uctT+)
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Hey it was just an "honest mistake." Ask Steffie...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:17 PM (Bn6aD)
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All along, Repub congressmen said that "the coverup was worse than the act." But they always avoided going to what was being covered up. They NEVER asked that question.
For me, it wasn't just Obama and team were covering shit up, but it was that the Republicans actively avoided wanting to know what was being covered up.
Republicans, from the very beginning, have avoided getting to the bottom of all of the shit that was going on with Obama to specifically avoid finding crimes that they would HAVE to investigate and possibly have grounds for impeachment.
Republicans are terrified of another Bill Clinton situation where the Dem comes out on the other side of the crime more popular than when he was committing the crime.
It's all bullshit.
For me, it wasn't just Obama and team were covering shit up, but it was that the Republicans actively avoided wanting to know what was being covered up.
Republicans, from the very beginning, have avoided getting to the bottom of all of the shit that was going on with Obama to specifically avoid finding crimes that they would HAVE to investigate and possibly have grounds for impeachment.
Republicans are terrified of another Bill Clinton situation where the Dem comes out on the other side of the crime more popular than when he was committing the crime.
It's all bullshit.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 18, 2015 01:17 PM (BZAd3)
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Walid Shoebat has a theory that the gov't was actually involved in the creation of the video and kept it on the back-burner. Think this is according to his cousin who worked w/Nakoula. See Shoebat's blog...
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (V7QeA)
Too complicated. Occam's Razor says they realized they had a problem when Benghazi blew up in their faces, went looking for someone/something to carry the can, found the video, and with the aid of the MSM made the magic happen.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (V7QeA)
Too complicated. Occam's Razor says they realized they had a problem when Benghazi blew up in their faces, went looking for someone/something to carry the can, found the video, and with the aid of the MSM made the magic happen.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (XUKZU)
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77 So each week is just Tea Leoni sitting on an airplane getting drunk?
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (JoIcn)
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I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
Posted by: zombie
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Hey, you need a job?
I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
Posted by: zombie
................................
Hey, you need a job?
Posted by: Rolling Stone at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (wAQA5)
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Do you know that this YouTube video was only viewed like 100 times before the regime trotted it out as the reason for Benghazi? True. The press is the enemy within. They really are. They enable the democrat kleptocrats to wreak havoc. They should all be lined up and shot as the traitors they are. Yes.... I said shot.
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (fLKzW)
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"We are in the hands of someone so fundementally banal and corrupt that is beggars the imagination." - Bossy Conservative
This. Well said. But I'd rephrase it substituting "people" for "someone".
And I'd add "unserious, and intellectually mediocre".
"We are in the hands of someone so fundementally banal and corrupt that is beggars the imagination." - Bossy Conservative
This. Well said. But I'd rephrase it substituting "people" for "someone".
And I'd add "unserious, and intellectually mediocre".
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:19 PM (FsuaD)
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Hillary! Speaking power to truth. For the average American. And thus begins another broadcast day.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 18, 2015 01:19 PM (HkbS6)
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124 77 So each week is just Tea Leoni sitting on an airplane getting drunk?
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (JoIcn)
No, no, she's saving America, Americans, the rest of the world, and the Earth. Maybe some of the nearer parts of the solar system as well.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (JoIcn)
No, no, she's saving America, Americans, the rest of the world, and the Earth. Maybe some of the nearer parts of the solar system as well.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:20 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: H. Clinton, Mistress of Truthiness at May 18, 2015 01:20 PM (VPLuQ)
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If this sinks Hillary! which I doubt, I hope she takes obama with Her....
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:20 PM (Bn6aD)
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Hat tip to rightscoop? FOX news did the reporting, Rightscoop just copies and pastes, nothing they do is a scoop.
Posted by: Billygoatpuke at May 18, 2015 01:20 PM (l5QMI)
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Screw these lying bastards.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (gODb/)
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NEWS FLASH: We live in a world where someone can take brass knuckles to the face of the Senate Majority Leader and the lapdog media won't even look at the story to find out who because it might embarrass a Democrat.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:14 PM (afQnV)
It is my belief that at that time (and I may be wrong) that under US law the transfer of weapons to Syria was illegal. Like the issue with the contras in the 80's transferring weapons to a rebel group was illegal finding or now. A finding is nothing more really that a statement that we should do xyz. Not that we CAN do xyz.
It is my belief that at that time (and I may be wrong) that under US law the transfer of weapons to Syria was illegal. Like the issue with the contras in the 80's transferring weapons to a rebel group was illegal finding or now. A finding is nothing more really that a statement that we should do xyz. Not that we CAN do xyz.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (sWgE+)
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Do you know that this YouTube video was only viewed like 100 times
before the regime trotted it out as the reason for Benghazi? True.
Do you know how hard it is to find Polish uniforms in Libya?
before the regime trotted it out as the reason for Benghazi? True.
Do you know how hard it is to find Polish uniforms in Libya?
Posted by: Joe Goebbels at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (oKE6c)
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I don't care even a little bit about lying about the motive for the attack.
What I hope they're trying to find is the SOB who made sure the fast response teams were too freaking far away to respond to the incident.
I don't even remember the details right now. Where were they? Italy, right?
We also have Hillary's signature on the security drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and said, "I sign a lot of things."
What I hope they're trying to find is the SOB who made sure the fast response teams were too freaking far away to respond to the incident.
I don't even remember the details right now. Where were they? Italy, right?
We also have Hillary's signature on the security drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and said, "I sign a lot of things."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (FsuaD)
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This story broke on Monday instead of Sunday. They are trying to torpedo Hillary Africanus.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (o68RC)
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I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
Posted by: zombie
................................
Hey, you need a job?
Posted by: Rolling Stone
I'm completely unqualified for the job, because I have this unshakable habit of admitting when I'm just making things up. To be a respectable member of the MSM, I need to be able to make shit up, and then pretend that it's true, in the face of any criticism or counter-evidence. I just don't have the personality trait to pull that off. So I respectfully decline your offer.
I made those statistics up, but I'd be willing to bet that they're pretty accurate.
Posted by: zombie
................................
Hey, you need a job?
Posted by: Rolling Stone
I'm completely unqualified for the job, because I have this unshakable habit of admitting when I'm just making things up. To be a respectable member of the MSM, I need to be able to make shit up, and then pretend that it's true, in the face of any criticism or counter-evidence. I just don't have the personality trait to pull that off. So I respectfully decline your offer.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jBuUi)
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Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:15 PM (eGmvn)
I don't know about that.
Don't forget, the US embassy in Egypt tweeted a pre-preemptive apology about "the video" BEFORE the Libya attacks or the Cairo "protest".
I don't know about that.
Don't forget, the US embassy in Egypt tweeted a pre-preemptive apology about "the video" BEFORE the Libya attacks or the Cairo "protest".
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (AkOaV)
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we can send weapons anywhere we want because of we know better than YOU !
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (D0Tns)
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re 115: actually, I'm watching a series about a woman who runs a temp help agency as a front for a call girl operation. It's called "Secretary Madam." I'd say that she looks like Chelsea but then you'd know I was making it up.
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (qSIlh)
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The funniest part of "Madam Secretary" is that her husband is a professor of theology. /laughing, wiping a tear from his eye
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (oKE6c)
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This seems like an appropriate time to remind you all that steering your kids towards ANY government service ... law enforcement, military, etc ... is a really bad idea.
Unless you LIKE the notion of your progeny being left to twist in the wind for the sake of political expediency. If so, then be my guest.
'Cause this kind of shit will not end - regardless of who wins the White House.
Unless you LIKE the notion of your progeny being left to twist in the wind for the sake of political expediency. If so, then be my guest.
'Cause this kind of shit will not end - regardless of who wins the White House.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (1lhwM)
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"and keep asking where the survivors are
Yes... Where are the survivors?"
Didn't they make the survivors sign NDAs?
I hope Gowdy is trying to find the NDAs too. 100 bucks says they are illegally applied.
Yes... Where are the survivors?"
Didn't they make the survivors sign NDAs?
I hope Gowdy is trying to find the NDAs too. 100 bucks says they are illegally applied.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (jhqr1)
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What I hope they're trying to find is the SOB who made sure the fast
response teams were too freaking far away to respond to the incident.
I don't even remember the details right now. Where were they? Italy, right?
There was a team on the ground in Tripoli, ready to go.
They received the order to stand down. Those guys have been interviewed by Bret Baier on Fox.
response teams were too freaking far away to respond to the incident.
I don't even remember the details right now. Where were they? Italy, right?
There was a team on the ground in Tripoli, ready to go.
They received the order to stand down. Those guys have been interviewed by Bret Baier on Fox.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
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we can send weapons anywhere we want because of we know better than YOU !
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM
And it worked out sooo well. Another success like Yemen...
we can send weapons anywhere we want because of we know better than YOU !
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM
And it worked out sooo well. Another success like Yemen...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (D0Tns)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (VPLuQ)
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This. Well said. But I'd rephrase it substituting "people" for "someone". And I'd add "unserious, and intellectually mediocre". Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM
I'd stick with "someone." It all comes down to Choom Boy, who is directly responsible for not only the act, but the policies that led to and followed the attack, as well as the people he chose to "deal with" all these problems.
Oh, and a shout-out to his co-conspirators in Congress who have rubber-stamped his personnel picks.
I await the day when The Corpulent "Captain" and other Konservative Keyboard Kommandos finally wake up to what they have enabled. They won't be happy. But then, I'm not holding my breath.
I'd stick with "someone." It all comes down to Choom Boy, who is directly responsible for not only the act, but the policies that led to and followed the attack, as well as the people he chose to "deal with" all these problems.
Oh, and a shout-out to his co-conspirators in Congress who have rubber-stamped his personnel picks.
I await the day when The Corpulent "Captain" and other Konservative Keyboard Kommandos finally wake up to what they have enabled. They won't be happy. But then, I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Exercise Band at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (AkOaV)
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re 115: actually, I'm watching a series about a
woman who runs a temp help agency as a front for a call girl operation.
It's called "Secretary Madam." I'd say that she looks like Chelsea but
then you'd know I was making it up.
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (qSIlh)
We had exactly the same thought for show: secretary by day, madam by night ...
Of course, being a Democrat, she'd lose money even running a whorehouse.
woman who runs a temp help agency as a front for a call girl operation.
It's called "Secretary Madam." I'd say that she looks like Chelsea but
then you'd know I was making it up.
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (qSIlh)
We had exactly the same thought for show: secretary by day, madam by night ...
Of course, being a Democrat, she'd lose money even running a whorehouse.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Sybilant Psychopath at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (8TdcF)
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They should all be lined up and shot as the traitors they are. Yes.... I said shot.
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (fLKzW)
Soon!
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (fLKzW)
Soon!
Posted by: ISIS at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (ecDRv)
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wrg, gotta run and can't pursue further, but I'm not aware of any legal prohibition on transfer of arms to Syrian rebels.
And no, a "finding" is not a recommendation, it is approval from the intel committees for a proposed intel operation. Briefings in the lead-lined hearing room up in the Hart bldg (not sure where HPSCI is on the House side) from the intel community. Approval in the form of a finding. Basic structure of processfrom the 70s intel "reforms".So findings mean congressional consent (specific), not "should".
wrg, gotta run and can't pursue further, but I'm not aware of any legal prohibition on transfer of arms to Syrian rebels.
And no, a "finding" is not a recommendation, it is approval from the intel committees for a proposed intel operation. Briefings in the lead-lined hearing room up in the Hart bldg (not sure where HPSCI is on the House side) from the intel community. Approval in the form of a finding. Basic structure of processfrom the 70s intel "reforms".So findings mean congressional consent (specific), not "should".
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (afQnV)
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The funniest part of "Madam Secretary" is that her husband is a professor of theology.
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Bill's a professor of sheology.
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Bill's a professor of sheology.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (XUKZU)
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COCKSUCKA!!!!
Posted by: Mr. Wu at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (FdTDf)
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And in Chicago news: 2 Killed, 47 Wounded In Weekend Shootings
http://tinyurl.com/mx92364
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
http://tinyurl.com/mx92364
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (BDTpP)
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OT: "US Navy Fighter Jets Will Carry an Autonomous Missile"
Missile gets launched and it selects / destroys its own targets.
Yeah, nothing could go wrong here.
My favorite quote from the article: "MOST of the missile's details are secret...."
The fvck?
Missile gets launched and it selects / destroys its own targets.
Yeah, nothing could go wrong here.
My favorite quote from the article: "MOST of the missile's details are secret...."
The fvck?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (nqiq9)
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but some of that team disobeyed orders, chartered a flight to Benghazi, and 2 of them died at the CIA annex in the second firefight several hours later.
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but some of that team disobeyed orders, chartered a flight to Benghazi, and 2 of them died at the CIA annex in the second firefight several hours later.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (FA3Z7)
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re 138:
Hillary just shrugged and said, "I sign a lot of things."
Isn;t that what Hermann Goering said?
Hillary just shrugged and said, "I sign a lot of things."
Isn;t that what Hermann Goering said?
Posted by: mallfly at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (qSIlh)
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you know the 40+ peeps that were saved and escorted to safety in Bengayzi?
yup, they don't want to talk to the MSM, because the MSM are liars,
plus you can't handel the truth
yup, they don't want to talk to the MSM, because the MSM are liars,
plus you can't handel the truth
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (D0Tns)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (D0Tns)
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We also have Hillary's signature on the security
drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and
said, "I sign a lot of things."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jhqr1)
Quick, slip a confession into her "in" box.
drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and
said, "I sign a lot of things."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jhqr1)
Quick, slip a confession into her "in" box.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (oKE6c)
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140 I wish that were the case, but you'll only see this story on conservative sites. The MSM will be too busy talking about the latest tranny cover model, or how every woman has already been raped, but most just haven't recognized it.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (JoIcn)
170
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but some of that team
disobeyed orders, chartered a flight to Benghazi, and 2 of them died at
the CIA annex in the second firefight several hours later.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (AkOaV)
No. The two who died at the CIA annex did not fly in.
disobeyed orders, chartered a flight to Benghazi, and 2 of them died at
the CIA annex in the second firefight several hours later.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (AkOaV)
No. The two who died at the CIA annex did not fly in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (FsuaD)
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There was a team on the ground in Tripoli, ready to go.
They received the order to stand down. Those guys have been interviewed by Bret Baier on Fox.
Ugh, I've heard so many conflicting things I can't even keep half of it straight. Are you sure on that one? Last I remember everyone was agreeing no stand down order was received by anyone.
They received the order to stand down. Those guys have been interviewed by Bret Baier on Fox.
Ugh, I've heard so many conflicting things I can't even keep half of it straight. Are you sure on that one? Last I remember everyone was agreeing no stand down order was received by anyone.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (jhqr1)
172
Fucking slime buckets gotta ooze.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (n6Nt0)
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That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (BDTpP)
A self-culling herd.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 18, 2015 01:25 PM (BDTpP)
A self-culling herd.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (oKE6c)
174
We also have Hillary's signature on the security
drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and
said, "I sign a lot of things."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jhqr1)
Quick, slip a confession into her "in" box.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (oKE6c)
I got this one...
drawdown papers, and that amounted to squat. Hillary just shrugged and
said, "I sign a lot of things."
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:21 PM (jhqr1)
Quick, slip a confession into her "in" box.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:26 PM (oKE6c)
I got this one...
Posted by: Huma at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (7YlUk)
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Ugh, I've heard so many conflicting things I can't
even keep half of it straight. Are you sure on that one? Last I
remember everyone was agreeing no stand down order was received by
anyone.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (jhqr1)
They were absolutely told to stand down.
even keep half of it straight. Are you sure on that one? Last I
remember everyone was agreeing no stand down order was received by
anyone.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:28 PM (jhqr1)
They were absolutely told to stand down.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 18, 2015 01:29 PM (FsuaD)
176
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
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And did anybody call them thugs?
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
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And did anybody call them thugs?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:29 PM (XUKZU)
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That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
Happens every spring, man.
Happens every spring, man.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 01:29 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 01:29 PM (fWAjv)
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Remember when Hillary was puffing her chest and getting all stabby?
"We came, we saw, he died." Good times. Good times.
"We came, we saw, he died." Good times. Good times.
Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2015 01:29 PM (UzPAd)
180
Isn't it true though that Catherine Herridge and RightScoop both are conservative mouthpieces out to embarrass Hillary Clinton?
This is all old news anyway and recycling this stuff every time some new memo surfaces is merely a right wing attempt to smear and resmear a supremely effective and dedicated public servant.
This is all old news anyway and recycling this stuff every time some new memo surfaces is merely a right wing attempt to smear and resmear a supremely effective and dedicated public servant.
Posted by: George Stephanpoulos at May 18, 2015 01:30 PM (FCsIb)
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Don't forget, the US embassy in Egypt tweeted a pre-preemptive apology about "the video" BEFORE the Libya attacks or the Cairo "protest".
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (AkOaV)
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It's been my suspicion from the gitgo that the regime knew what was going to happen all along. Maybe even coordinated it. But that's just me.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:22 PM (AkOaV)
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It's been my suspicion from the gitgo that the regime knew what was going to happen all along. Maybe even coordinated it. But that's just me.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 01:30 PM (/HX7u)
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>>And wrg, see my (sadly, characteristically) long comment willowed in the last thread, WRT gun-running operation out of Benghazi. It doesn't change, reduce, or amplify any of the repugnant and outrageous aspects of Benghazi.
See my reply in the same thread. Yea, it actually does make a difference to me if the government lied to me and was running guns to militants in Syria all the while denying the very same accusation.
You don't think the American people might have had a slightly different take on the situation a couple weeks before the election if they found out that Obama had been running guns, potentially illegally? Why did he go to such lengths to cover it up? Why all the lies?
I would think it is the key to the entire screwup. They might have acted a lot more expeditiously and not tried to cover up what had been going on if it didn't matter. They wanted us to think it was a random event, it wasn't.
See my reply in the same thread. Yea, it actually does make a difference to me if the government lied to me and was running guns to militants in Syria all the while denying the very same accusation.
You don't think the American people might have had a slightly different take on the situation a couple weeks before the election if they found out that Obama had been running guns, potentially illegally? Why did he go to such lengths to cover it up? Why all the lies?
I would think it is the key to the entire screwup. They might have acted a lot more expeditiously and not tried to cover up what had been going on if it didn't matter. They wanted us to think it was a random event, it wasn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 01:30 PM (g1DWB)
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Jane, this is from wikipedia... so, I mean.. for what its worth
"Early in the morning, Libyan government forces met up with a group of Americans, reinforcements from Tripoli including Glen Doherty, that had arrived at the Benghazi airport."
"Early in the morning, Libyan government forces met up with a group of Americans, reinforcements from Tripoli including Glen Doherty, that had arrived at the Benghazi airport."
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:30 PM (AkOaV)
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Yes... Where are the survivors?"
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I think they're in Nicaragua on a beach playing games.
Yes... Where are the survivors?"
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I think they're in Nicaragua on a beach playing games.
Posted by: Obama Voter at May 18, 2015 01:31 PM (wAQA5)
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156 They should all be lined up and shot as the traitors they are. Yes.... I said shot.
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (fLKzW)
Imagine being the poor parent at the airport picking up your dead son and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you, that a f*cking video was responsible for their death. F*CK HER TO HELL
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 18, 2015 01:18 PM (fLKzW)
Imagine being the poor parent at the airport picking up your dead son and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you, that a f*cking video was responsible for their death. F*CK HER TO HELL
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:31 PM (n6Nt0)
186
This admin will say anything to cover for their moderate muslim friends.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at May 18, 2015 01:31 PM (VNgld)
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OMG Ace!
You mean that this administration lied to me?
My needle on my give-a-shit meter isn't moving beyond 0.
OShitforBrains is POTUS because 53% of the electorate are corrupt.
You mean that this administration lied to me?
My needle on my give-a-shit meter isn't moving beyond 0.
OShitforBrains is POTUS because 53% of the electorate are corrupt.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (V70Uh)
188
So where is the testicular bathing product we now call jello then?
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (MV2jA)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:24 PM (afQnV
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All U.S. manufacturers, exporters, and brokers of defense articles, defense services, or related technical data, as defined on the USML, are required to register with U.S. Department of State. Registration is primarily a means to provide the U.S. Government with necessary information on who is involved in certain manufacturing and exporting activities. Registration does not confer any export rights or privileges, but is a precondition for the issuance of any license or other approval for export. Registration fees start at US$2,250 per year.
Under ITAR, a "US person" who wants to export USML items to a "foreign person" must obtain authorization from the U.S. Department of State before the export can take place.
A "U.S. person" can be
a U.S. citizen;
a permanent resident who does not work for a foreign company, a foreign government, or a foreign governmental agency/organization;
a political asylee;
a part of the U.S. government, or
a corporation, business, organization, or group that is incorporated in the United States under U.S. law.[8]:§ 120.15
A foreign person is any person who is not a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. and includes foreign governments and organizations.[8]:§ 120.16 This means that, for example a foreign person who is visiting the U.S. will remain a foreign person for the purposes of ITAR and any export of USML items to them inside the U.S. must be subject to an export authorization. This is similar to the concept of "Deemed Exports" used by the Bureau of Industry and Security within the Department of Commerce in administration of the Export Administration Regulations although the Department of State does not use the term "Deemed Export"
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (sWgE+)
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Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 01:30 PM (/HX7u)
yeah I don't know.
without that tweet, there is a fairly consistent, easy to understand "cover story' for the admin.
That tweet is... inconvenient... for their story. And for the "alternative narratives".
I don't think we'll ever know the truth of what happened, but that preemptive tweet has always set off red flags for me.
yeah I don't know.
without that tweet, there is a fairly consistent, easy to understand "cover story' for the admin.
That tweet is... inconvenient... for their story. And for the "alternative narratives".
I don't think we'll ever know the truth of what happened, but that preemptive tweet has always set off red flags for me.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (AkOaV)
191
OK, *really* gotta run now, but newhandle brings up another (related) atrocity related to Benghazi. The outrageous, unbelievable "tweet" from Embassy Cairo the night before.
Wherein the US essentially apologized for the constitutional freedoms defining our country (historically, and in principle, anyway). To a riotous mob, assembled and manipulated by the worst bottom-dwelling hate-mongers and enemies of the US and the west. Over a stupid video.
The embassy of the country that helped crush totalitarianism in WWII, stemmed the tide of same in Korea, defied Stalin in Berlin, methodically battled authoritarianism everywhere it could for two generations. Sending a "tweet" (WTFFFFF is the embassy doing communicating about anything important on f***ing Twitter????????) that basically bows before the idiotic rabid Third World cretins assaulting the outer walls.
Of course it got much worse, with the perp-walking of Nakoula.
Those who are younger, or weren't directly involved in things over the years of the Cold War, might not be able to appreciate how literally surreal all of this is. The country simply disappeared overnight, in many respects. It's just gone. I mean its best aspects, the things that distinguished it over time, made it what it has been.
Simply gone. (in answer to ace's occasional despairing question "is this America still?")
OK, *really* gotta run now, but newhandle brings up another (related) atrocity related to Benghazi. The outrageous, unbelievable "tweet" from Embassy Cairo the night before.
Wherein the US essentially apologized for the constitutional freedoms defining our country (historically, and in principle, anyway). To a riotous mob, assembled and manipulated by the worst bottom-dwelling hate-mongers and enemies of the US and the west. Over a stupid video.
The embassy of the country that helped crush totalitarianism in WWII, stemmed the tide of same in Korea, defied Stalin in Berlin, methodically battled authoritarianism everywhere it could for two generations. Sending a "tweet" (WTFFFFF is the embassy doing communicating about anything important on f***ing Twitter????????) that basically bows before the idiotic rabid Third World cretins assaulting the outer walls.
Of course it got much worse, with the perp-walking of Nakoula.
Those who are younger, or weren't directly involved in things over the years of the Cold War, might not be able to appreciate how literally surreal all of this is. The country simply disappeared overnight, in many respects. It's just gone. I mean its best aspects, the things that distinguished it over time, made it what it has been.
Simply gone. (in answer to ace's occasional despairing question "is this America still?")
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
192
'They had a mission they believed in. They knew the danger, and they accepted it.
'They didn't simply embrace the American ideal, they lived it; they embodied it. The courage, the hope, and yes, the idealism - that fundamental American belief that we could leave this world a little better than before.
'That's who they were, and that's who we are. If we want to truly honor their memory, that's who we must always be.'
*types*
*deletes*
'They didn't simply embrace the American ideal, they lived it; they embodied it. The courage, the hope, and yes, the idealism - that fundamental American belief that we could leave this world a little better than before.
'That's who they were, and that's who we are. If we want to truly honor their memory, that's who we must always be.'
*types*
*deletes*
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (fWAjv)
193
OT, but is anyone paying attention to the biker gang massacre in Waco?
Apparently cops knew this was a hot spot and were sitting on the location.
What confuses me is FIVE biker gangs were involved!?! How are five biker gangs converging on this one spot? I mean it's pretty normal for two gangs to be in a turf battle, but this many is very unusual.
Does anyone know the background? Why the convergence? Was the former controlling gang rolled up by LEOs and everyone's trying to move in?
Apparently cops knew this was a hot spot and were sitting on the location.
What confuses me is FIVE biker gangs were involved!?! How are five biker gangs converging on this one spot? I mean it's pretty normal for two gangs to be in a turf battle, but this many is very unusual.
Does anyone know the background? Why the convergence? Was the former controlling gang rolled up by LEOs and everyone's trying to move in?
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (jhqr1)
194
You don't think the American people might have had a slightly different
take on the situation a couple weeks before the election if they found
out that Obama had been running guns, potentially illegally?
The media seemed to think it was important during Iran-Contra. Now, not so much.
take on the situation a couple weeks before the election if they found
out that Obama had been running guns, potentially illegally?
The media seemed to think it was important during Iran-Contra. Now, not so much.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (659DL)
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No, the WH did not lie about the video being the cause of the attack. I think we can all agree here that the recent anti-Islam event in Garland Texas proves that offensive speech can elicit violence.
Posted by: Earnest Josher at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (8TdcF)
197
Obama and Clin-ton lied directly to the faces of the families of the victims in the Benghazi attack. They are pure evil.
Posted by: Marmo at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (QW+AD)
198
Makes You almost forget about Her dirty"charitable" dealings......Oh and Her destroyed e-mails....
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (Bn6aD)
199
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
Happens every spring, man.
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Yeah.... but let NINE whiteys buy it in TEXAS..... they get ALL the headlines.
White Privilege indeed.
Happens every spring, man.
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Yeah.... but let NINE whiteys buy it in TEXAS..... they get ALL the headlines.
White Privilege indeed.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (8XRCm)
200
The other Benghazi survivors, by the way, sold a non-disclosure agreement with possible civil or criminal penalties for breaking it.
which is why we haven't heard from them.
which is why we haven't heard from them.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (AkOaV)
201
sold = signed *
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (AkOaV)
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That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
Happens every spring, man.
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In springtime a young man's fancy turns to chasing trail and capping ass.
Happens every spring, man.
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In springtime a young man's fancy turns to chasing trail and capping ass.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (XUKZU)
203
Imagine being the poor parent at the airport picking up your dead son
and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you,
that a f*cking video was responsible for their death.
Hillamprey.
and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you,
that a f*cking video was responsible for their death.
Hillamprey.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 01:34 PM (LAe3v)
204
I just want to leave this here.
http://is.gd/qebl8V
Be interesting to see if he gives it up in 2017, won't it?
http://is.gd/qebl8V
Be interesting to see if he gives it up in 2017, won't it?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (ZKzrr)
205
wrg - munitions control office regulates exports of non-US arms from one non-US territory to another non-US territory? Don't think so.
wrg - munitions control office regulates exports of non-US arms from one non-US territory to another non-US territory? Don't think so.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (D0Tns)
207
Don't forget, the US embassy in Egypt tweeted a pre-preemptive apology about "the video" BEFORE the Libya attacks or the Cairo "protest".
Posted by: mynewhandle
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I don't recall the exact timeline, the Benghazi attack lasted most of a day, though - maybe the tweet came during the attack?
Don't forget, the US embassy in Egypt tweeted a pre-preemptive apology about "the video" BEFORE the Libya attacks or the Cairo "protest".
Posted by: mynewhandle
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I don't recall the exact timeline, the Benghazi attack lasted most of a day, though - maybe the tweet came during the attack?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (eGmvn)
208
The media seemed to think it was important during Iran-Contra. Now, not so much.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (LAe3v)
Benghazi was just as illegal.
Posted by: pep at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (LAe3v)
Benghazi was just as illegal.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:36 PM (sWgE+)
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195 I just cut my heel on an ampersand.
I'm suing all of you for five million dollars.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (659DL)
Yo Daddy a tax cheatin' race baiter too?
I'm suing all of you for five million dollars.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (659DL)
Yo Daddy a tax cheatin' race baiter too?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:36 PM (n6Nt0)
210
Obama and his cronies are going to deny the obvious until the day they die.
Obama and his cronies are going to deny the obvious until the day they die.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 01:37 PM (iQIUe)
211
Madam Secretary wakes up; pours vodka and Ensure into blender.
Checks email, chuckles at funny cat video; deleted entire server.
Gives a $500,000 "speech" to a company; speech consists of her Skyping with CEO saying "Show me the money"!
Goes to the bathroom; pees standing up.
Huma enters wearing Princess Leia metal slave bikini...(fade to black)
Checks email, chuckles at funny cat video; deleted entire server.
Gives a $500,000 "speech" to a company; speech consists of her Skyping with CEO saying "Show me the money"!
Goes to the bathroom; pees standing up.
Huma enters wearing Princess Leia metal slave bikini...(fade to black)
Posted by: Real life episode of Madam Secretary at May 18, 2015 01:37 PM (JoIcn)
212
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
I think we'll be breaking records here this year. Wait till it gets really nice out and the beaches downtown are full. Don't even have to wait till spring break because so few actually go to school anyway.
I think we'll be breaking records here this year. Wait till it gets really nice out and the beaches downtown are full. Don't even have to wait till spring break because so few actually go to school anyway.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2015 01:37 PM (ahBY0)
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That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
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They better order bulletproof windows for that new preezydental library.
That's 49 people shot in Chicago over the course of ONE weekend folks.
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They better order bulletproof windows for that new preezydental library.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 01:37 PM (wAQA5)
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wrg - munitions control office regulates exports of non-US arms from one non-US territory to another non-US territory? Don't think so.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (afQnV)
We were transferring to the Turks to sell to the Syrians to get around the law.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (afQnV)
We were transferring to the Turks to sell to the Syrians to get around the law.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (sWgE+)
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yeah whatever, you right wing fruit loops are just makin cht up, because you resent Obama being elected.
and i'd like it to be remembered how the Left helped track down that obscure video guy for the administration (Obama) and helping the Obama administration to Further the lies.
and also ,'the Future does not belong to those who Insult Islam!'
and i'd like it to be remembered how the Left helped track down that obscure video guy for the administration (Obama) and helping the Obama administration to Further the lies.
and also ,'the Future does not belong to those who Insult Islam!'
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe)
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Be interesting to see if he gives it up in 2017, won't it?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (ZKzrr)
Or taken away before then?
Be interesting to see if he gives it up in 2017, won't it?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (ZKzrr)
Or taken away before then?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (n6Nt0)
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They better order bulletproof windows for that new preezydental library.
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I think the word "library" will scare them off.
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I think the word "library" will scare them off.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (XUKZU)
218
Those who are younger, or weren't directly involved in things over the years of the Cold War, might not be able to appreciate how literally surreal all of this is. The country simply disappeared overnight, in many respects. It's just gone. I mean its best aspects, the things that distinguished it over time, made it what it has been.Simply gone. (in answer to ace's occasional despairing question "is this America still?")
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
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Yup. The blink of an eye. Or the minute or two it takes to vote.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
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Yup. The blink of an eye. Or the minute or two it takes to vote.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 01:39 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:39 PM (D0Tns)
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also how the left was Totally on Board the video guy being jailed!!
just to let Us know what we're dealing with
just to let Us know what we're dealing with
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:39 PM (nqBYe)
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" The media seemed to think it was important during Iran-Contra. Now, not so much. "
Um, Republican President. Duh.
Um, Republican President. Duh.
Posted by: MSM at May 18, 2015 01:39 PM (LA7Cm)
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Twin Peaks was staked out by the Police a week or so before the shooting.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:39 PM (o68RC)
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Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (jhqr1)
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The five gangs were meeting at the restaurant for a formal sit-down to settle turf disputes.... so this was a leadership attended gathering.
Biker gatherings will often inform the police that they will be having X event at Y place. Keeps the police from getting blindsided by calls from citizens. Kind of a "we're here, dont freak out" outreach effort by the bike gangs. Keeps the cops from overreactin and the bikers from being rousted.
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The five gangs were meeting at the restaurant for a formal sit-down to settle turf disputes.... so this was a leadership attended gathering.
Biker gatherings will often inform the police that they will be having X event at Y place. Keeps the police from getting blindsided by calls from citizens. Kind of a "we're here, dont freak out" outreach effort by the bike gangs. Keeps the cops from overreactin and the bikers from being rousted.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (8XRCm)
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wrg, what are you talking about? Boland Amendment forbade US aid to the contras (simplifying a bit). What comparable law existed/exists barring US aid to rebels in Syria?
And no, to whomever asked, of course I don't think a covert arms supply op out of Benghazi would have changed anything about the still-surreal response of the press and the electorate to Benghazi and the associated, histrionic and clumsy lying and distortion by the senior officeholders.
Did you notice that within 12 hours Obama was in Vegas delivering one of his really degraded whip-'em-up rally speeches to the faithful, fist-bumping and strutting around like he always does? Info about running arms to Syria would have changed the non-reaction to this disgraceful performance how?
What is it with this obsession with a non-issue? The issues are multiple, spectacular, and right there in our faces.
wrg, what are you talking about? Boland Amendment forbade US aid to the contras (simplifying a bit). What comparable law existed/exists barring US aid to rebels in Syria?
And no, to whomever asked, of course I don't think a covert arms supply op out of Benghazi would have changed anything about the still-surreal response of the press and the electorate to Benghazi and the associated, histrionic and clumsy lying and distortion by the senior officeholders.
Did you notice that within 12 hours Obama was in Vegas delivering one of his really degraded whip-'em-up rally speeches to the faithful, fist-bumping and strutting around like he always does? Info about running arms to Syria would have changed the non-reaction to this disgraceful performance how?
What is it with this obsession with a non-issue? The issues are multiple, spectacular, and right there in our faces.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (afQnV)
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Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 01:33 PM (jhqr1)
One of the gangs is the Cossacks. Russians invading us through gang warfare? Husband was telling me the Cossacks just appeared around 2013. I think his info came from Fox news.
One of the gangs is the Cossacks. Russians invading us through gang warfare? Husband was telling me the Cossacks just appeared around 2013. I think his info came from Fox news.
Posted by: Comrade Moron April at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (Dj1wH)
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'This work, and the men and women who risk their lives to do it, are at the heart of what makes America great and good,' Clinton said. 'So we will wipe away our tears, stiffen our spines, and face the future undaunted.'
And lie our asses off.
And lie our asses off.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (fWAjv)
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and also ,'the Future does not belong to those who Insult Islam!'
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe
I think the future belongs to those who "hunt" Islam
and also ,'the Future does not belong to those who Insult Islam!'
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe
I think the future belongs to those who "hunt" Islam
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (n6Nt0)
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None of this should shock us. We knew it all along. We just now have the official documentation that our government knew it was terrorism all along.
So know we "officially know". To paraphrase Scankles - "What does it matter"? I say this because what are we going to do with this knowledge?
Are we going to impeach? Will there be a Special Prosecutor named to investigate and prosecute? Or are we going to stand around yelling "SEE!! We told you!!!"
If we are just going to grandstand - why waste the energy. Let the Barky continue doing whatever he wants until the next inauguration day.
If we are going to DO something, then lets do it. I want justice. I have friends that have been handing out "Remember Benghazi" buttons and bumper stickers all over the area. Lets seek justice. Prosecute if warranted. Jail the guilty (or hang).
This lawlessness MUST stop, but it won't if all we do is wave our arms in the air and fingerpoint, make grandiose speeches on the floor of the House/Senate. If that is all that will come of this, count me out. I'll sit back and watch the country burn. I'll help salt the earth and scatter the stones.
So know we "officially know". To paraphrase Scankles - "What does it matter"? I say this because what are we going to do with this knowledge?
Are we going to impeach? Will there be a Special Prosecutor named to investigate and prosecute? Or are we going to stand around yelling "SEE!! We told you!!!"
If we are just going to grandstand - why waste the energy. Let the Barky continue doing whatever he wants until the next inauguration day.
If we are going to DO something, then lets do it. I want justice. I have friends that have been handing out "Remember Benghazi" buttons and bumper stickers all over the area. Lets seek justice. Prosecute if warranted. Jail the guilty (or hang).
This lawlessness MUST stop, but it won't if all we do is wave our arms in the air and fingerpoint, make grandiose speeches on the floor of the House/Senate. If that is all that will come of this, count me out. I'll sit back and watch the country burn. I'll help salt the earth and scatter the stones.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (DlmoZ)
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Some of the 5 biker gangs reported to be involved in Waco were the Cossacks (bad news), Bandidos (REALLY bad news), and the ATF (oh shit).
Kidding on the ATF, the other 2 were there.
Kidding on the ATF, the other 2 were there.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (nqiq9)
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And here's a Slate take on ISIS
Actual headline:
"Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate."
Bonkers. Completely bonkers.
Actual headline:
"Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate."
Bonkers. Completely bonkers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (1sJza)
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Sadly, all Donk scandals come with an expiration date.
They ran the clock out on this one a long time ago.
They ran the clock out on this one a long time ago.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 18, 2015 01:41 PM (xSCb6)
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Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:35 PM (eGmvn)
No, it happened *before* any of the "protests" and *before* the Benghazi attack.
Now, the US embassy in Egypt presumably knew there was going to be a "protest" as al-Zawahiri had released a video asking people to retaliate against the US on the anniversary of 9/11 for killing bin Laden.
So this was while Obama and co were saying "bin Laden is dead, GM is alive", so maybe the original plan was to just pretend the "spontaneous protests" in Muslim countries were unrelated to the fatwa from Al Qaeda, and were coincidentally on the first 9/11 after bin Laden was killed about something else... I don't know.
No, it happened *before* any of the "protests" and *before* the Benghazi attack.
Now, the US embassy in Egypt presumably knew there was going to be a "protest" as al-Zawahiri had released a video asking people to retaliate against the US on the anniversary of 9/11 for killing bin Laden.
So this was while Obama and co were saying "bin Laden is dead, GM is alive", so maybe the original plan was to just pretend the "spontaneous protests" in Muslim countries were unrelated to the fatwa from Al Qaeda, and were coincidentally on the first 9/11 after bin Laden was killed about something else... I don't know.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:41 PM (AkOaV)
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LOL, I just thought about how democrats don't care about other democrats being killed (Amb. Stevens). It'll make you chuckle too.
Posted by: Draki at May 18, 2015 01:41 PM (0eidE)
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We also already knew that the administration was using the ambassador to aid in illegally buying and transporting arms to Syria, which is why he's dead.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (eGmvn)
Incompetence, moral cowardice, poor security, false assumptionsand political self-preservation killed Ambassador Stevens. What the CIA was/wasn't doing in the area was irrelevant to the attack on the compound.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 18, 2015 01:02 PM (eGmvn)
Incompetence, moral cowardice, poor security, false assumptionsand political self-preservation killed Ambassador Stevens. What the CIA was/wasn't doing in the area was irrelevant to the attack on the compound.
Posted by: troyriser at May 18, 2015 01:41 PM (S08gh)
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231 And here's a Slate take on ISIS
Actual headline:
"Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate."
Bonkers. Completely bonkers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (1sJza)
The AOSHQ Stylebook requires the use of "amateur webzine" immediately preceding any reference to Slate.
Actual headline:
"Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate."
Bonkers. Completely bonkers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (1sJza)
The AOSHQ Stylebook requires the use of "amateur webzine" immediately preceding any reference to Slate.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2015 01:41 PM (2Ojst)
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"also how the left was Totally on Board the video guy being jailed!!
just to let Us know what we're dealing with"
The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet Muhammad
"also how the left was Totally on Board the video guy being jailed!!
just to let Us know what we're dealing with"
The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet Muhammad
Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at May 18, 2015 01:42 PM (OD2ni)
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you know how consistent the media is in cover-ups?
they knew this shit. They helped further the lie.
They said nothing when the video guy was arrested. for Insulting Islam!
they knew this shit. They helped further the lie.
They said nothing when the video guy was arrested. for Insulting Islam!
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Bigby's Work Gloves at May 18, 2015 01:42 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (78TbK)
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Shame on Romney for backing down on this in 2012.
Shame on Romney for backing down on this in 2012.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (O9S73)
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What difference at this point does it make?
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (Bn6aD)
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Posted by: Comrade Moron April at May 18, 2015 01:40 PM (Dj1wH)
well I don't know about any of that, but eastern european gangs have been in the US since the fall of the iron curtain.
well I don't know about any of that, but eastern european gangs have been in the US since the fall of the iron curtain.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
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230 Some of the 5 biker gangs reported to be involved in Waco were the Cossacks (bad news), Bandidos (REALLY bad news), and the ATF (oh shit).
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Does that second gang ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
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Does that second gang ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)
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wrg - WHAT law?
And no, if we were transferring via the Turks, it's because of logistics. How do you supply Syrian rebels *directly*? Map exercise makes it a bit of a challenge (my answer would be Kurdistan, which is the answer to many questions for me), but the point is that you need to get material to people inside Syria somehow, and the Turkish border was the best area if you were doing that, of the available border areas.
wrg - WHAT law?
And no, if we were transferring via the Turks, it's because of logistics. How do you supply Syrian rebels *directly*? Map exercise makes it a bit of a challenge (my answer would be Kurdistan, which is the answer to many questions for me), but the point is that you need to get material to people inside Syria somehow, and the Turkish border was the best area if you were doing that, of the available border areas.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (afQnV)
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"LOL, I just thought about how democrats don't care about other democrats being killed (Amb. Stevens). It'll make you chuckle too."
Death is a feature of the Left.
Death is a feature of the Left.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (LA7Cm)
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This is all the republicans fault
Posted by: Samantha Power at May 18, 2015 01:44 PM (D0Tns)
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Those who are younger, or weren't directly involved in things over the
years of the Cold War, might not be able to appreciate how literally
surreal all of this is. The country simply disappeared overnight, in
many respects. It's just gone. I mean its best aspects, the things that
distinguished it over time, made it what it has been.Simply gone. (in
answer to ace's occasional despairing question "is this America still?")
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
But now we've got electrolytes!
years of the Cold War, might not be able to appreciate how literally
surreal all of this is. The country simply disappeared overnight, in
many respects. It's just gone. I mean its best aspects, the things that
distinguished it over time, made it what it has been.Simply gone. (in
answer to ace's occasional despairing question "is this America still?")
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
But now we've got electrolytes!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 18, 2015 01:44 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 18, 2015 01:45 PM (W5DcG)
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This should matter to every American. But sadly, it won't. It will only matter to those of us who love America, not those who hate America. We are outnumbered, if elected (legally or by fraud) officials are any indicator.
Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2015 01:46 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 01:46 PM (fWAjv)
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troyriser: Incompetence, moral cowardice, poor security, false assumptionsand political self-preservation killed Ambassador Stevens. What the CIA was/wasn't doing in the area was irrelevant to the attack on the compound.
Exactly.
Sorry to get dog-with-a-bone-ish, but WTF is it with this focus on the possible covert arms transfer operation? It changes nothing - *nothing* - about the political or substantive issues surrounding Benghazi. Nothing. Not even for the informed and aware. For the electorate? Are you kidding?
troyriser: Incompetence, moral cowardice, poor security, false assumptionsand political self-preservation killed Ambassador Stevens. What the CIA was/wasn't doing in the area was irrelevant to the attack on the compound.
Exactly.
Sorry to get dog-with-a-bone-ish, but WTF is it with this focus on the possible covert arms transfer operation? It changes nothing - *nothing* - about the political or substantive issues surrounding Benghazi. Nothing. Not even for the informed and aware. For the electorate? Are you kidding?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:46 PM (afQnV)
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surreal all of this is
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
yeah i've been mind blown for a long time .
the country ...it's not what i thought at all
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:32 PM (afQnV)
yeah i've been mind blown for a long time .
the country ...it's not what i thought at all
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:46 PM (nqBYe)
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"Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate."
Dear Slate:
FYNQ
Sincerely,
Me
Dear Slate:
FYNQ
Sincerely,
Me
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 01:47 PM (659DL)
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AND, we have very few in leadership that give a damn
Petraeus shocked me.
where in the hell is Gen Ham?
etc
Petraeus shocked me.
where in the hell is Gen Ham?
etc
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:47 PM (nqBYe)
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Maybe someone in the blogosphere can flay the chief retard at LGF a bit, since he seems to be on one of his periodic rants about Jim Hoft, AKA Gateway Pundit.
It concerns the subject at hand in this post. According to Chucky, Benghazi and specifically today's revelation is an outright falsehood, touted by Fox and promoted by Hoft.
I have no blog to post about it,so will ask if perhaps someone can rhetorically smash them in the face.
Maybe someone in the blogosphere can flay the chief retard at LGF a bit, since he seems to be on one of his periodic rants about Jim Hoft, AKA Gateway Pundit.
It concerns the subject at hand in this post. According to Chucky, Benghazi and specifically today's revelation is an outright falsehood, touted by Fox and promoted by Hoft.
I have no blog to post about it,so will ask if perhaps someone can rhetorically smash them in the face.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 18, 2015 01:47 PM (jeCnD)
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Cossacks Wikipedia wiped clean. They were probably hit by the Feds dressed up as bikers.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:47 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (DlmoZ)
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where are the good men and women in leadership that love their country?
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (nqBYe)
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AND, we have very few in leadership that give a damn
Petraeus shocked me.
where in the hell is Gen Ham?
etc
They were all "taken" out by the obama administration...
AND, we have very few in leadership that give a damn
Petraeus shocked me.
where in the hell is Gen Ham?
etc
They were all "taken" out by the obama administration...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (Bn6aD)
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According to the provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act, anyone suspected of providing material support to AQ, the Taliban OR associated forces is subject to indefinite detention in military custody.
On several occasions now, Obama and federal lawmakers have approved shipments of weapons and money to the so called Syrian resistance. The evidence of AQ's presence in this force as is ISIS is overwhelming.
On several occasions now, Obama and federal lawmakers have approved shipments of weapons and money to the so called Syrian resistance. The evidence of AQ's presence in this force as is ISIS is overwhelming.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (sWgE+)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (afQnV)
the saudis, qataris and turks were vetting and arming the "rebels" in syria.
whether those weapons came from Libya or wherever doesn't matter, they were all paid for and funneled through wherever with US dollars, and many were US guns.
Although we also sent over a lot of AK's and soviet guns IIRC that I guess we just had laying around.
I don't know. It's very complicated and I've read so much conflicting info.
But long story short, we funded and armed the "rebels" who morphed in to ISIS.
the saudis, qataris and turks were vetting and arming the "rebels" in syria.
whether those weapons came from Libya or wherever doesn't matter, they were all paid for and funneled through wherever with US dollars, and many were US guns.
Although we also sent over a lot of AK's and soviet guns IIRC that I guess we just had laying around.
I don't know. It's very complicated and I've read so much conflicting info.
But long story short, we funded and armed the "rebels" who morphed in to ISIS.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (AkOaV)
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>>What is it with this obsession with a non-issue? The issues are multiple, spectacular, and right there in our faces.
Well for one thing if this is true, and I have long believed it is true, then it explains why Stevens was even in Beghazi in the first place. Everyone else was fleeing from Benghaz but Stevens, not to mention the CIA station that was also attacked, stayed.
It's kind of important to answer the question "Why was Stevens sent to what was widely acknowledged to be a terror stronghold?". And we also don't know exactly what weapons are in Syria. Manpads disappeared from Libya, 10s of thousands of them, and many of them are likely in Syria where we don't seem to be very active in the air. Seems kind of important.
And finally, if it isn't important, why has Obama and his team been lying, stonewalling and doing everything in their power to cover up any evidence it ever happened?
I can multi-task. I can look at more than one issue at a time. And again, it is very important to me to know exactly what the Obama administration was doing in Libya if for no other reason than to demonstrate just how dishonest this administration truly is.
Well for one thing if this is true, and I have long believed it is true, then it explains why Stevens was even in Beghazi in the first place. Everyone else was fleeing from Benghaz but Stevens, not to mention the CIA station that was also attacked, stayed.
It's kind of important to answer the question "Why was Stevens sent to what was widely acknowledged to be a terror stronghold?". And we also don't know exactly what weapons are in Syria. Manpads disappeared from Libya, 10s of thousands of them, and many of them are likely in Syria where we don't seem to be very active in the air. Seems kind of important.
And finally, if it isn't important, why has Obama and his team been lying, stonewalling and doing everything in their power to cover up any evidence it ever happened?
I can multi-task. I can look at more than one issue at a time. And again, it is very important to me to know exactly what the Obama administration was doing in Libya if for no other reason than to demonstrate just how dishonest this administration truly is.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (g1DWB)
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I just cut my heel on an ampersand.
I'm suing all of you for five million dollars.
Then you shouldn't have posted that selfie of you climbing up on your high horse.
I just cut my heel on an ampersand.
I'm suing all of you for five million dollars.
Then you shouldn't have posted that selfie of you climbing up on your high horse.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (JtwS4)
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According to Chucky, Benghazi and specifically today's revelation is an outright falsehood, touted by Fox and promoted by Hoft.
And here are some photos of weeds.
You're banned, etc.
And here are some photos of weeds.
You're banned, etc.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 01:49 PM (659DL)
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Does that second gang ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)
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The first gang has big moustaches too, but they wear big furry hats.
Does that second gang ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)
..............................
The first gang has big moustaches too, but they wear big furry hats.
Posted by: wth at May 18, 2015 01:49 PM (wAQA5)
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"DO NOT use a semi-auto! "
17 Round Magazine, with only one round in it?
That's some pretty good odds right there>
17 Round Magazine, with only one round in it?
That's some pretty good odds right there>
Posted by: When Common Core meets Idiocracy at May 18, 2015 01:49 PM (VPLuQ)
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...and lets not forget, we armed, funded, trained, and acted as the airforce for Sunni jihadists in Libya to overthrow Qaddafi.
Many of the same people who were fighting there are now in the new caliphate working to overthrow Baghdad.
Many of the same people who were fighting there are now in the new caliphate working to overthrow Baghdad.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:49 PM (AkOaV)
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259
where are the good men and women in leadership that love their country?
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (nqBYe)
Not in the WH. Not in the Senate. Not in the House. Military leadership has been stripped by all of the forced resignations. Paints a pretty dismal picture, doesn't it.
where are the good men and women in leadership that love their country?
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (nqBYe)
Not in the WH. Not in the Senate. Not in the House. Military leadership has been stripped by all of the forced resignations. Paints a pretty dismal picture, doesn't it.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (DlmoZ)
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Death is a feature of the Left.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (LA7Cm
Sums it up
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (LA7Cm
Sums it up
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (eeTCA)
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Why the head of ISIS sounds like a Republican Presidential candidate.
amazing they project so much.
THEY are the one calling for jailing or killing of those that insult Their Leftist ideology.
Just Like Islamists
amazingly dense fks
amazing they project so much.
THEY are the one calling for jailing or killing of those that insult Their Leftist ideology.
Just Like Islamists
amazingly dense fks
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (nqBYe)
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Shame on Romney for backing down on this in 2012.
***
Every Republican candidate should be asked this question during the primary...
Suppose you win the primary and move on to the general election. At one of the debates you bring up a fact that puts your Democrat opponent in a bad light. The leftwing moderator lies and claims the facts are not true. What do you do?
***
Every Republican candidate should be asked this question during the primary...
Suppose you win the primary and move on to the general election. At one of the debates you bring up a fact that puts your Democrat opponent in a bad light. The leftwing moderator lies and claims the facts are not true. What do you do?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (78TbK)
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Does that second gang ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)
Yeah. Hide your Fritos.
Actually, Bandidos are the worst of the worst in biker gangs. So bad that a few decades ago the govt actively hunted them down everywhere (mainly TX) and tried to destroy the gang. Had the usual amount of success as defined by govt actions. Bandidos are worse than Hells Angels but not as big, marginally worse than Mongols.
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 01:43 PM (VndSC)
Yeah. Hide your Fritos.
Actually, Bandidos are the worst of the worst in biker gangs. So bad that a few decades ago the govt actively hunted them down everywhere (mainly TX) and tried to destroy the gang. Had the usual amount of success as defined by govt actions. Bandidos are worse than Hells Angels but not as big, marginally worse than Mongols.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (nqiq9)
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>>Imagine being the poor parent at the airport picking up your dead son
and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you,
that a f*cking video was responsible for their death.
Know a woman who was a career Democrat operative who raised her family in DC, good friends of Chris Stevens' family - her daughter and Chris were friends since childhood, daughter went on to work for Hillary from FLOTUS-->SoS. The Stevens family is devastated but such life-long Democrats they are in denial over how Obama/Hillary let this happen - they don't want it politicized. As for the woman we know - this is what finally shook her faith in Obama and Democrats (probably helped that she's retired and no longer in DC). Yet her daughter stayed on at State and now works for Kerry - apparently Hills getting her friend killed wasn't enough for her to wake up.
and that haggard, cold, remorseless, souless fucking c*nt telling you,
that a f*cking video was responsible for their death.
Know a woman who was a career Democrat operative who raised her family in DC, good friends of Chris Stevens' family - her daughter and Chris were friends since childhood, daughter went on to work for Hillary from FLOTUS-->SoS. The Stevens family is devastated but such life-long Democrats they are in denial over how Obama/Hillary let this happen - they don't want it politicized. As for the woman we know - this is what finally shook her faith in Obama and Democrats (probably helped that she's retired and no longer in DC). Yet her daughter stayed on at State and now works for Kerry - apparently Hills getting her friend killed wasn't enough for her to wake up.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:51 PM (V7QeA)
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Ace
It's the DNI memos, Director of National Intelligence.
These memos also say that we were observing "others" who were trafficking weapons through Benghazi to Syria. So the memos do not support Sexton.
It's the DNI memos, Director of National Intelligence.
These memos also say that we were observing "others" who were trafficking weapons through Benghazi to Syria. So the memos do not support Sexton.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 01:51 PM (RJMhd)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (g1DWB)
and why was Stevens meeting the Turkish ambassador the night he was killed? And why was the CIA in Benghazi? Clearly they weren't monitoring for terrorist activity against the embassy. Or if they were, the sucked at it.
Yeah, I mean all signs point to some kind of arms transfer situation
and why was Stevens meeting the Turkish ambassador the night he was killed? And why was the CIA in Benghazi? Clearly they weren't monitoring for terrorist activity against the embassy. Or if they were, the sucked at it.
Yeah, I mean all signs point to some kind of arms transfer situation
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Petraeus shocked me.
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He cut a deal. No jail time in return for staying out of politics.
Obama knew exactly how to handle him...
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He cut a deal. No jail time in return for staying out of politics.
Obama knew exactly how to handle him...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:52 PM (78TbK)
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Paints a pretty dismal picture, doesn't it.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (DlmoZ)
i weep (true)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (DlmoZ)
i weep (true)
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:52 PM (nqBYe)
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It doesn't matter and the reason it doesn't matter is that Americans are dumbfucks, the vast majority anyway. The Democrats need stupid voters. And the people who aren't "technically" stupid--cops, firemen, teachers- keep their mouth shut because they are paid to vote Democrat. No one wants to rock the boat so they go along with the charade. This is the ultimate reason why Benghazi or e-mails or anything else never matters. The Republicans realize this and that's why they don't push too hard. They go through the motions to satisfy us, but they don't push too hard because they know it dosen't matter.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 01:52 PM (7feDS)
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Sorry to get dog-with-a-bone-ish, but WTF is it with this focus on the possible covert arms transfer operation?
-Rhomboid
It goes to motive, which makes the all-but-confessed fact that they knowingly lied about the protest/video all the all the more incendiary, which in turn makes the media's refusal to cover such in an election year all the more outrageous.
It matters, and it does not distract from all those other points, because the LIVs don't pay attention anyway.
-Rhomboid
It goes to motive, which makes the all-but-confessed fact that they knowingly lied about the protest/video all the all the more incendiary, which in turn makes the media's refusal to cover such in an election year all the more outrageous.
It matters, and it does not distract from all those other points, because the LIVs don't pay attention anyway.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 01:53 PM (ecDRv)
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Most Baldacci novels have the DNI.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 18, 2015 01:53 PM (o68RC)
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This is all just like a bad movie that never ends...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:53 PM (Bn6aD)
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Obama knew exactly how to handle him...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:52 PM (78TbK)
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Look... I know Im behind the scenes. My names not in the headlines.... but.... is it too much to ask for just a *little* public credit when its due....
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:52 PM (78TbK)
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Look... I know Im behind the scenes. My names not in the headlines.... but.... is it too much to ask for just a *little* public credit when its due....
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at May 18, 2015 01:54 PM (8XRCm)
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i believe there is video of doherty? saying why he was going to libya, to retrieve weapons lost.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 01:54 PM (nqBYe)
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The leftwing moderator lies and claims the facts are not true. What do you do?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (78TbK)
Squat like a frightened spaniel and piss on the floor.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 18, 2015 01:50 PM (78TbK)
Squat like a frightened spaniel and piss on the floor.
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279....
This is the ultimate reason why Benghazi or e-mails or anything else
never matters. The Republicans realize this and that's why they don't
push too hard. They go through the motions to satisfy us, but they don't
push too hard because they know it dosen't matter.
Then let it burn. Stock up and supplies and ammo.
This is the ultimate reason why Benghazi or e-mails or anything else
never matters. The Republicans realize this and that's why they don't
push too hard. They go through the motions to satisfy us, but they don't
push too hard because they know it dosen't matter.
Then let it burn. Stock up and supplies and ammo.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 01:55 PM (DlmoZ)
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Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 01:53 PM (ecDRv)
I think the alleged arms transfer speaks to why Stevens was in Benghazi that night, but that wasn't the motive.
Sunni jihadis were totally behind transferring Qadaffis weapons to their brethren in Syria.
The motive was a fatwa by Zawahiri to avenge bin Ladens death on the first anniversary of 9/11 since he assumed room temperature by killing Americans.
I think the alleged arms transfer speaks to why Stevens was in Benghazi that night, but that wasn't the motive.
Sunni jihadis were totally behind transferring Qadaffis weapons to their brethren in Syria.
The motive was a fatwa by Zawahiri to avenge bin Ladens death on the first anniversary of 9/11 since he assumed room temperature by killing Americans.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)
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We can scream and yell and moan and groan and keep coming up with funny new names for socks and for Obama and Hillary and Reid and Steponaphallus and we can get it off our chests, but it doesn't matter anymore. This country is lost. It's not the same country it was even 20 years ago and it was totally by design.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (7feDS)
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Lord Vader enjoyed a fine round of golf today and finds other subjects disturbing.
In other Empire news the economy grew by 5000% again.
In other Empire news the economy grew by 5000% again.
Posted by: eman at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (0H4c3)
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I move that the AoSHQ Style Guide be amended thusly, that all references to Catherine Herridge include "who is quite the cutie".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (JtwS4)
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apparently Hills getting her friend killed wasn't enough for her to wake up.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:51 PM (V7QeA)
Must be a hell of prize at the top of the ladder.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 01:51 PM (V7QeA)
Must be a hell of prize at the top of the ladder.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (n6Nt0)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 01:48 PM (g1DWB)
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I think what we "know" about this regime is only the tip of the iceberg. So much is secret. So much destruction.
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I think what we "know" about this regime is only the tip of the iceberg. So much is secret. So much destruction.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (/HX7u)
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It goes to motive, which makes the all-but-confessed fact that they knowingly lied about the protest/video all the all the more incendiary, which in turn makes the media's refusal to cover such in an election year all the more outrageous.
How would it look if 2 months out from election day it can out you as president and your SoS was sending guns to AQ in Syrian?
How would it look if 2 months out from election day it can out you as president and your SoS was sending guns to AQ in Syrian?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 01:57 PM (sWgE+)
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This country is lost. It's not the same country it was even 20 years ago and it was totally by design.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (7feDS)
Not sure it is lost yet but pretty damn close and hard to argue with anything you said
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (7feDS)
Not sure it is lost yet but pretty damn close and hard to argue with anything you said
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 01:57 PM (rDqRv)
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Deray Mckesson tweeted: 'If you've never understood the intersection of media bias/race and policing re: whiteness, watch the #TwinPeaksShooting unfold.'
Yep, big difference in the way they are being treated. Couldn't be that the bikers are just sitting down and not being aggressive with the police.
Yep, big difference in the way they are being treated. Couldn't be that the bikers are just sitting down and not being aggressive with the police.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 01:57 PM (fWAjv)
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>>These memos also say that we were observing "others" who were trafficking weapons through Benghazi to Syria. So the memos do not support Sexton.
Those "others" are liable to be terrorists who took the weapons from Libya after Obama's wildly successful bombing attack that removed Qadaffi. Sexton actually said that we were watching and giving either active or tacit approval.
Yea, I'm pretty sure Obama was heavily invested in covering up the fact that his go it alone bombing campaign in Libya not only turned Libya into a failed state but opened the flood gates of arms moving around the ME.
But Bush. And the Crusades.
Those "others" are liable to be terrorists who took the weapons from Libya after Obama's wildly successful bombing attack that removed Qadaffi. Sexton actually said that we were watching and giving either active or tacit approval.
Yea, I'm pretty sure Obama was heavily invested in covering up the fact that his go it alone bombing campaign in Libya not only turned Libya into a failed state but opened the flood gates of arms moving around the ME.
But Bush. And the Crusades.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 01:57 PM (g1DWB)
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We have reached the "SO WHAT?" phase with Obama and Hillary when it comes to their lies. "So we're lying. SO WHAT?"
There are no consequences to lying, so they will continue to lie.
If the government (Congress) won't address an Executive Branch that is corrupt, eventually the people will. And blood will be spilled. That's not my prediction. That's not my threat. That's history.
There are no consequences to lying, so they will continue to lie.
If the government (Congress) won't address an Executive Branch that is corrupt, eventually the people will. And blood will be spilled. That's not my prediction. That's not my threat. That's history.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 18, 2015 01:58 PM (iAUf+)
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So we were the source of ISIS' weapons during this period of time, it seems. Did we perchance also supply orange jumpsuits, KA-Bar's and video equipment?
There's a question for Mrs. Clinton.
There's a question for Mrs. Clinton.
Posted by: MTF, SMOD is my personal savior at May 18, 2015 01:58 PM (FCsIb)
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This revelation is outrageous! In fact, it has made John Boehner and myself so mad that we will quickly pass the legislation Obama wants without telling anybody!
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at May 18, 2015 01:59 PM (JoIcn)
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So we were the source of ISIS' weapons during this period of time, it
seems. Did we perchance also supply orange jumpsuits, KA-Bar's and
video equipment?
There's a question for Mrs. Clinton.
Questions! I don't answer no stinking questions.... Hillary!
So we were the source of ISIS' weapons during this period of time, it
seems. Did we perchance also supply orange jumpsuits, KA-Bar's and
video equipment?
There's a question for Mrs. Clinton.
Questions! I don't answer no stinking questions.... Hillary!
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 01:59 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (DlmoZ)
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Another reason Benghazi is not and never will get traction is because our side doesn't know how to simplify the mesage. Most people think "Benghazi "is a guy's name and you guys keep talking about complicated "gun-running" operations and homo ambassadors that no one can understand. I'm not saying your wrong--I agree with you. But we need to simplify the message.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (7feDS)
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Wait, let me get this straight.
The Obama administration lied about something?
WTF, when did this start? Snarc
The Obama administration lied about something?
WTF, when did this start? Snarc
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (0FSuD)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 01:56 PM (JtwS4
Pulse-check
Noticeable breathing-check
Female-check
Pulse-check
Noticeable breathing-check
Female-check
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (n6Nt0)
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Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 18, 2015 01:45 PM (W5DcG)
Didja see tingles comments on the train wreck? He said the problem is eminent domain. We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. Which surprised me because I thought he favored left turns.
Didja see tingles comments on the train wreck? He said the problem is eminent domain. We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. Which surprised me because I thought he favored left turns.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (XUKZU)
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" move that the AoSHQ Style Guide be amended thusly, that all references to Catherine Herridge include "who is quite the cutie".
Looks a little bit like the female NCIS Agent in NCIS New Orleans.
You know, the show with the really shitty accents
Looks a little bit like the female NCIS Agent in NCIS New Orleans.
You know, the show with the really shitty accents
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 02:01 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:01 PM (nqBYe)
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Yea, I'm pretty sure Obama was heavily invested in covering up the fact that his go it alone bombing campaign in Libya not only turned Libya into a failed state but opened the flood gates of arms moving around the ME.
Of course he was. Remember the F-16's and abrams tanks he was going to send the MB in Egypt?
Of course he was. Remember the F-16's and abrams tanks he was going to send the MB in Egypt?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:01 PM (sWgE+)
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Did we perchance also supply orange jumpsuits, KA-Bar's and video equipment?
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Still not sure why want a 10x10 iron cage. I mean what the heck? You sure about this Hilldog?
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Still not sure why want a 10x10 iron cage. I mean what the heck? You sure about this Hilldog?
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens last email to Hillary at May 18, 2015 02:01 PM (78TbK)
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Woods was at the CIA annex.
Doherty was in Tripoli and commandeered/chartered a flight to Benghazi it took him hours to get to the annex- I want to say eight- he died with Woods on the rooftop about 15 minutes after arrival. It is tragic because the critique is they split what little remained of the embassy security team between Tripoli and Bengazi- they were spread out too thin.
Doherty was in Tripoli and commandeered/chartered a flight to Benghazi it took him hours to get to the annex- I want to say eight- he died with Woods on the rooftop about 15 minutes after arrival. It is tragic because the critique is they split what little remained of the embassy security team between Tripoli and Bengazi- they were spread out too thin.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:02 PM (RJMhd)
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Looks a little bit like the female NCIS Agent in NCIS New Orleans.
I have not seen that one. Should I? (Includes presumption that I like NCIS Classic).
Looks a little bit like the female NCIS Agent in NCIS New Orleans.
I have not seen that one. Should I? (Includes presumption that I like NCIS Classic).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 18, 2015 02:02 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: eman at May 18, 2015 02:02 PM (0H4c3)
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Is Drudge on vacation? Same stupid picture and story now for 24 hours.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 18, 2015 02:03 PM (0FSuD)
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The motive was a fatwa by Zawahiri to avenge bin
Ladens death on the first anniversary of 9/11 since he assumed room
temperature by killing Americans.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)
"Motive" spoken to was motive to lie about the video drawing attention away from an obvious administration failure to prepare for a foreseeable attack on American sovereign soil on the anniversary of 9/11. The failure had Hillary's greasy fingers all over it, as well as the Obama admin in an election year. That's why the revelation of a potentially illicit arms transfer matters.
Ladens death on the first anniversary of 9/11 since he assumed room
temperature by killing Americans.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)
"Motive" spoken to was motive to lie about the video drawing attention away from an obvious administration failure to prepare for a foreseeable attack on American sovereign soil on the anniversary of 9/11. The failure had Hillary's greasy fingers all over it, as well as the Obama admin in an election year. That's why the revelation of a potentially illicit arms transfer matters.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:04 PM (ecDRv)
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they allowed the killing of Ambassador Stevens (He asked for help weeks before , more security that never came)
they allowed the killing of others at the compound.
they lied about the gun frunning
they set up a video guy to fall for them
they allowed the killing of others at the compound.
they lied about the gun frunning
they set up a video guy to fall for them
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:04 PM (nqBYe)
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The Obama Administration Master Plan
1. Sell or give modern armaments to Muslims of any type for any reason.
2. Armaments inevitably fall into the hands of terrorists either because the guys we originally gave them to were corrupt and so sold them to the bad guys; or were incompetent and allowed them to get stolen; or were cowardly and fled their positions and abandoned their weapons to the terrorists they were fighting; or secretly terrorists themselves to begin with.
3. ????
4. Winning!!!
1. Sell or give modern armaments to Muslims of any type for any reason.
2. Armaments inevitably fall into the hands of terrorists either because the guys we originally gave them to were corrupt and so sold them to the bad guys; or were incompetent and allowed them to get stolen; or were cowardly and fled their positions and abandoned their weapons to the terrorists they were fighting; or secretly terrorists themselves to begin with.
3. ????
4. Winning!!!
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 02:04 PM (jBuUi)
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"Is Drudge on vacation? Same stupid picture and story now for 24 hours."
Maybe he was with Ace last night.
I mean, the boss did come rolling into work at the crack of noon today.
Maybe he was with Ace last night.
I mean, the boss did come rolling into work at the crack of noon today.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 02:05 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: eman at May 18, 2015 02:06 PM (0H4c3)
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and whom should we believe about 'stand down' orders given or not given at this point?
we heard both.
we heard both.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:06 PM (nqBYe)
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3. Have a corrupt propaganda machine known as the MSM weigh in with full support of any/all this administrations actions
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:07 PM (fWAjv)
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eman, no, i now live in the twilight zone.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:07 PM (nqBYe)
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RIP Vile Rat
Posted by: Zakn at May 18, 2015 02:07 PM (ec1Ol)
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"I have not seen that one. Should I? (Includes presumption that I like NCIS Classic)."
If you haven't seen it by now, I wouldn't go out of my way for it.
Imagine Scott Bacula with a horrible New Orleans accent.
And the rest of the cast with the same degree of horrible accent.
Except for the nerd pathology helper.
Abby, he isn't.
If you haven't seen it by now, I wouldn't go out of my way for it.
Imagine Scott Bacula with a horrible New Orleans accent.
And the rest of the cast with the same degree of horrible accent.
Except for the nerd pathology helper.
Abby, he isn't.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 18, 2015 02:07 PM (VPLuQ)
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295--and I just came around to this idea that the country is lost.
I got to thinking that one major reason is that the people who SHOULD care, and are capable of helping out don't. Again, the Democrat Party has done a fantastic job of putting all their voters on the payroll. You have criminals and cops voting for Democrats; you have Catholics supporting the party of late abortions and Jews supporting the party that has it in for Israel. And Jews supporting the same that party Muslims in the US support. You have old people supporting the party that has changed the nation of their youth.
Brilliant.
I got to thinking that one major reason is that the people who SHOULD care, and are capable of helping out don't. Again, the Democrat Party has done a fantastic job of putting all their voters on the payroll. You have criminals and cops voting for Democrats; you have Catholics supporting the party of late abortions and Jews supporting the party that has it in for Israel. And Jews supporting the same that party Muslims in the US support. You have old people supporting the party that has changed the nation of their youth.
Brilliant.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 02:08 PM (7feDS)
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To the survivors of Benghazi, "we will get the people who made this video."
Posted by: Hillary at Dover at May 18, 2015 02:08 PM (WCnJW)
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Country isn't dead. The bedrock--those instruments that allowed us to flourish and become the YET most exceptional countryon this planet are still sound.
They just have a layer of filth deliberately obscuring most of them.
Needs to be cleaned off. I propose doing that by peaceful, political means.
If it turns out that isn't possible--if EVERY means is exhausted, then the oath I and others swore will be fulfilled.
Country isn't dead. The bedrock--those instruments that allowed us to flourish and become the YET most exceptional countryon this planet are still sound.
They just have a layer of filth deliberately obscuring most of them.
Needs to be cleaned off. I propose doing that by peaceful, political means.
If it turns out that isn't possible--if EVERY means is exhausted, then the oath I and others swore will be fulfilled.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 18, 2015 02:08 PM (jeCnD)
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And why?? Because they are all getting PAID. So they shut up.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 18, 2015 02:09 PM (7feDS)
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so where was Obama , Hillary, Jarret, etc during Benghazi?
and i hope the Las Vegas trip was fun and productive for His campaigning, because that's what was important to Obama and His bootlickers.
and i hope the Las Vegas trip was fun and productive for His campaigning, because that's what was important to Obama and His bootlickers.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:09 PM (nqBYe)
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Also Obama was always publicly opposed to arms sales to the rebels up to 2013. After the gas attacks by Assad he decided to arm the rebels (publicly).
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:09 PM (sWgE+)
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Ace, KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, why would you think any of this could possibly matter?
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 18, 2015 02:10 PM (U6f54)
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" This country is lost. It's not the same country it was even 20 years ago and it was totally by design."
I can't say I've lost faith in my country but this country is an idea as much as anything else and that idea is wonderful.
I have however lost a shit load of faith in some of my fellow "Americans" and I use the quotes because I use the term loosely. They have gotten dumb. Just dumber than piss so many of them.
I can't say I've lost faith in my country but this country is an idea as much as anything else and that idea is wonderful.
I have however lost a shit load of faith in some of my fellow "Americans" and I use the quotes because I use the term loosely. They have gotten dumb. Just dumber than piss so many of them.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 02:10 PM (LA7Cm)
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320 and whom should we believe about 'stand down' orders given or not given at this point? we heard both.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:06 PM (nqBYe)
Well doesn't the whole "no stand down order was given" claim rely on the fact that "stand down" was not specifically said. Even though all orders given pretty much amount to "stand down." They sure as hell didn't mean "Get in there and do whatever you can to help and rescue our people."
320 and whom should we believe about 'stand down' orders given or not given at this point? we heard both.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:06 PM (nqBYe)
Well doesn't the whole "no stand down order was given" claim rely on the fact that "stand down" was not specifically said. Even though all orders given pretty much amount to "stand down." They sure as hell didn't mean "Get in there and do whatever you can to help and rescue our people."
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (zt+N6)
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>>> Sexton based that article on already-known documents. The MSM just
didn't seem to want to connect the dots on already-existing information
about Benghazi.
Connect the dots? What is this, JV play hour?
didn't seem to want to connect the dots on already-existing information
about Benghazi.
Connect the dots? What is this, JV play hour?
Posted by: Obama, who sure as shootin' knows JV at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: our magnificent honorable leaders at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (nqBYe)
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Ace, KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, why would you think any of this could possibly matter?
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in
beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 18, 2015 02:10 PM (U6f54)
This!
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in
beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 18, 2015 02:10 PM (U6f54)
This!
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (R8hU8)
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they allowed the killing of Ambassador Stevens (He asked for help weeks before , more security that never came)
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Did he call at 3:00 A.M? If not, that might have been the problem.
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Did he call at 3:00 A.M? If not, that might have been the problem.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (XUKZU)
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buzzion, good point, i had forgotten that.
Posted by: our magnificent honorable leaders at May 18, 2015 02:12 PM (nqBYe)
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newhandle, I'm quite aware of the specifics of (some) of the connections in the region, and no, we didn't create ISIS, directly or indirectly (echoes of the factually baseless "we created the Taliban" stuff), and of course there was lots of materiel in Libya (probably not as much as Iraq, where the Iraqis themselves had no idea how much conventional ordnance and arms were stockpiled all over the place), so "we" didn't have to have "AKs lying around". And of course the CIA was in Benghazi, it's by far the most important place for them to be in Libya (yes, more than Tripoli). Long the center of rebel/jihadi/North African malcontents/Egyptian intrigue. Intel outpost in Benghazi would/should be biggest in the country even if Syria didn't exist at all.
and wrg, come on, there's no plausible case that aid to rebel groups in Syria violates the legal bars on aid to AQ and its allies. If that were a sensible interpretation, AQ could controlour covert operations options at their whim, by simply "tainting" any group we had our own good reasons to support. No Boland amendment here. No legal bar on aid to Syrian rebels, even by outlandish commutative law of AQ affiliates (anybody on same side of war = AQ affiliate = banned group).
In addition, if there was a covert op, it had a finding from the intel committees. Which you apparently didn't know constitutes congressional consent. And if there was NOT a finding, but there was an op, then we're in scandal territory.
JackStraw, nope. Fine, you want to know more, so do I. My point is that none of this about the possible covert operations changes/would have changed any of the political implications (which turned out to be zero). Stevens' presence in Benghazi is hardly bizarre in principle, whatever the full background. What was scandalous and lethally stupid was his presence without an army of security. If you had the full briefing supporting the finding for any covert op that *was* under way, it would not change a thing about the elements of this disaster, which I listed in a comment in the eternal dump thread.
And Ansar probably would have attacked our assets regardless of any covert ops. And the 9/11 timing doesn't require an explanation, does it?
Again, absent lots more info, there is/was nothing scandalous about gun-running to Syria, in itself. The murder of 4 Americans incl. a chief of mission - under absolutely inexcusable conditions - and the indefensible lying about it to the public, are the scandal.
newhandle, I'm quite aware of the specifics of (some) of the connections in the region, and no, we didn't create ISIS, directly or indirectly (echoes of the factually baseless "we created the Taliban" stuff), and of course there was lots of materiel in Libya (probably not as much as Iraq, where the Iraqis themselves had no idea how much conventional ordnance and arms were stockpiled all over the place), so "we" didn't have to have "AKs lying around". And of course the CIA was in Benghazi, it's by far the most important place for them to be in Libya (yes, more than Tripoli). Long the center of rebel/jihadi/North African malcontents/Egyptian intrigue. Intel outpost in Benghazi would/should be biggest in the country even if Syria didn't exist at all.
and wrg, come on, there's no plausible case that aid to rebel groups in Syria violates the legal bars on aid to AQ and its allies. If that were a sensible interpretation, AQ could controlour covert operations options at their whim, by simply "tainting" any group we had our own good reasons to support. No Boland amendment here. No legal bar on aid to Syrian rebels, even by outlandish commutative law of AQ affiliates (anybody on same side of war = AQ affiliate = banned group).
In addition, if there was a covert op, it had a finding from the intel committees. Which you apparently didn't know constitutes congressional consent. And if there was NOT a finding, but there was an op, then we're in scandal territory.
JackStraw, nope. Fine, you want to know more, so do I. My point is that none of this about the possible covert operations changes/would have changed any of the political implications (which turned out to be zero). Stevens' presence in Benghazi is hardly bizarre in principle, whatever the full background. What was scandalous and lethally stupid was his presence without an army of security. If you had the full briefing supporting the finding for any covert op that *was* under way, it would not change a thing about the elements of this disaster, which I listed in a comment in the eternal dump thread.
And Ansar probably would have attacked our assets regardless of any covert ops. And the 9/11 timing doesn't require an explanation, does it?
Again, absent lots more info, there is/was nothing scandalous about gun-running to Syria, in itself. The murder of 4 Americans incl. a chief of mission - under absolutely inexcusable conditions - and the indefensible lying about it to the public, are the scandal.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:13 PM (afQnV)
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JackStraw. And Joe F.
Unfortunately the criticism should have stayed simplified as soon as certain people started making the weapons trafficking charge against those at the CIA annex knowing liberal media psychology -we should have known the media would make excuses for themselves when they did not become outraged at their abandonment. It is the same "legitimate target" evil think that they displayed shortly after 9/11 when discussing the Pentagon attack.
Unfortunately the criticism should have stayed simplified as soon as certain people started making the weapons trafficking charge against those at the CIA annex knowing liberal media psychology -we should have known the media would make excuses for themselves when they did not become outraged at their abandonment. It is the same "legitimate target" evil think that they displayed shortly after 9/11 when discussing the Pentagon attack.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:13 PM (RJMhd)
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" We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. "
That is gobsmackingly stupid. Something from the mind of a 1st grader.
That is gobsmackingly stupid. Something from the mind of a 1st grader.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 18, 2015 02:13 PM (LA7Cm)
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the content began to take hold.
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Did he call at 3:00 A.M? If not, that might have been the problem.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (XUKZU
We warned him not to call "Collect"
Did he call at 3:00 A.M? If not, that might have been the problem.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (XUKZU
We warned him not to call "Collect"
Posted by: The White House at May 18, 2015 02:14 PM (n6Nt0)
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Well doesn't the whole "no stand down order was given" claim rely on the fact that "stand down" was not specifically said. Even though all orders given pretty much amount to "stand down." They sure as hell didn't mean "Get in there and do whatever you can to help and rescue our people."
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (zt+N6)
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No order at all is still the equivalent of a "stand down".
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:11 PM (zt+N6)
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No order at all is still the equivalent of a "stand down".
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 02:15 PM (/HX7u)
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Dude, that was like 3 years ago....
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 02:15 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (sWgE+)
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BREAKING
http://tinyurl.com/lk8l2jj
Yes, it has come to this.
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
http://tinyurl.com/lk8l2jj
Yes, it has come to this.
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv)
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331 Ace, KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, why would you think any of this could possibly matter?
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
The media is so deeply and overwhelmingly corrupted by communist ideology that it's hard for even us to grasp how bad things have become and what things could be like if they weren't so corrupt.
Imagine if the media was similarly engaged in its currently frenzy of "gotcha" "Knowing what we know now..." questions, but instead of being directed at the GOP, it was directed at the Left:
"Senator Clinton, knowing what we know now that the abortion movement in this country was founded by early 20th-century progressives for the specific stated purpose of exterminating black people, swarthy immigrants and the disabled as part of a grand "passive eugenics" genocide against "undesirables," do you still support the mass-murder of millions of innocent minority lives every year?"
The state-run media, in George Orwell fashion, is only interested in beaming out anti-conservative and anti-Republican themes to the masses.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
The media is so deeply and overwhelmingly corrupted by communist ideology that it's hard for even us to grasp how bad things have become and what things could be like if they weren't so corrupt.
Imagine if the media was similarly engaged in its currently frenzy of "gotcha" "Knowing what we know now..." questions, but instead of being directed at the GOP, it was directed at the Left:
"Senator Clinton, knowing what we know now that the abortion movement in this country was founded by early 20th-century progressives for the specific stated purpose of exterminating black people, swarthy immigrants and the disabled as part of a grand "passive eugenics" genocide against "undesirables," do you still support the mass-murder of millions of innocent minority lives every year?"
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (jBuUi)
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Excuse me. Allow me to correct this record...
Posted by: Candy Crowley at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (a+WIL)
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Ohhhh! Cake!
Posted by: Candy Crowley at May 18, 2015 02:17 PM (a+WIL)
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Posted by: Ambassador Stevens last email to Hillary at May 18, 2015 02:01 PM (78TbK)
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And let's not forget the 25 gallons of jet fuel plus matches, Ambassador. I'm assured by our ISIL partners that those will be essential ingredients in our battle against Assad.
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And let's not forget the 25 gallons of jet fuel plus matches, Ambassador. I'm assured by our ISIL partners that those will be essential ingredients in our battle against Assad.
Posted by: Hilldogger For President at May 18, 2015 02:17 PM (FCsIb)
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306 Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 18, 2015 01:45 PM (W5DcG) Didja see tingles comments on the train wreck? He said the problem is eminent domain. We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. Which surprised me because I thought he favored left turns.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (XUKZU)
He's clearly unaware that the railroads can pretty much do that already. My uncle fought a losing battle against the railroads to not be forced to sell part of his land so they could build a hub/railyard/whatever giant facility. And this was just in the last 10 years.
306 Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 18, 2015 01:45 PM (W5DcG) Didja see tingles comments on the train wreck? He said the problem is eminent domain. We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. Which surprised me because I thought he favored left turns.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:00 PM (XUKZU)
He's clearly unaware that the railroads can pretty much do that already. My uncle fought a losing battle against the railroads to not be forced to sell part of his land so they could build a hub/railyard/whatever giant facility. And this was just in the last 10 years.
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:17 PM (zt+N6)
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President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv
Yeah, i would like to give him something else as well.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv
Yeah, i would like to give him something else as well.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (n6Nt0)
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Stop clapping, Moochelle, you're going to give this whole operation away.
Posted by: Candy Crowley at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (a+WIL)
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Rhomboid has it.
I'm stuck on an iPhone platform but he about says it all.
Just would like to add emphasis to the section on political reasons.
I'm stuck on an iPhone platform but he about says it all.
Just would like to add emphasis to the section on political reasons.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (RJMhd)
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Hillary, knowing what you know now, would you still marry that lecher?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (VndSC)
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>>President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
A] WTF - is this what Obama thinks is important? Get that selfie stick outta yer a$$, bucko.
B] So will he now explain how his existing account is managed by "non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
A] WTF - is this what Obama thinks is important? Get that selfie stick outta yer a$$, bucko.
B] So will he now explain how his existing account is managed by "non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (V7QeA)
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Does that second gang [Banditos -ed] ride around with big moustaches and sombreros and sing "Aye, yi, yi, yi..."?
Don't know about that. I've seen lone Banditos flying their colors on I-5 between Tacoma and Seattle. Usually these guys don't do that unless they feel really comfortable in their areas. If a rival club found a single guy riding around it would be their pleasure to take his jacket and hang it up in their clubhouse.
Don't know about that. I've seen lone Banditos flying their colors on I-5 between Tacoma and Seattle. Usually these guys don't do that unless they feel really comfortable in their areas. If a rival club found a single guy riding around it would be their pleasure to take his jacket and hang it up in their clubhouse.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 02:19 PM (jhqr1)
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President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'>>>
More proof Obama is Val Jars puppet.
More proof Obama is Val Jars puppet.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 02:19 PM (aVYsC)
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>>JackStraw, nope. Fine, you want to know more, so do I. My point is that none of this about the possible covert operations changes/would have changed any of the political implications (which turned out to be zero). Stevens' presence in Benghazi is hardly bizarre in principle, whatever the full background. What was scandalous and lethally stupid was his presence without an army of security. If you had the full briefing supporting the finding for any covert op that *was* under way, it would not change a thing about the elements of this disaster, which I listed in a comment in the eternal dump thread.
It will come as no surprise that I disagree with you on this one. As has been noted, Obama was publicly and vociferously against arming the rebels before this attack. If it turns out he knew it was happening and did nothing to try and stop it I think it would have been a big deal.
And I do believe the only reason Stevens was in Benghazi, the reason the CIA had an active mission there, was to deal in some fashion with these arms shipments. Everyone down to the Red Cross seemed to know this was an area controlled by terrorists but we allowed our ambassador to go there with very little in the way of security when terror attacks had been happening all around the area including on the consulate which had already been attacked once? Sounds almost like he was on a covert mission.
Nope, motive matters. And this one stinks to the core. I do think it is a central issue and not just some throwaway, hardly related issue. Weapons movement to terrorists was likely the central reason Stevens was in Benghazi that night.
It will come as no surprise that I disagree with you on this one. As has been noted, Obama was publicly and vociferously against arming the rebels before this attack. If it turns out he knew it was happening and did nothing to try and stop it I think it would have been a big deal.
And I do believe the only reason Stevens was in Benghazi, the reason the CIA had an active mission there, was to deal in some fashion with these arms shipments. Everyone down to the Red Cross seemed to know this was an area controlled by terrorists but we allowed our ambassador to go there with very little in the way of security when terror attacks had been happening all around the area including on the consulate which had already been attacked once? Sounds almost like he was on a covert mission.
Nope, motive matters. And this one stinks to the core. I do think it is a central issue and not just some throwaway, hardly related issue. Weapons movement to terrorists was likely the central reason Stevens was in Benghazi that night.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (g1DWB)
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President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years
in, they're finally giving me my own account.'>>>
Maybe they'll let Me cut up my own food next!
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years
in, they're finally giving me my own account.'>>>
Maybe they'll let Me cut up my own food next!
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (Bn6aD)
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Hillary was right. At this point, what difference does it make?
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (/HX7u)
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357 >>President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'A] WTF - is this what Obama thinks is important? Get that selfie stick outta yer a$$, bucko.B] So will he now explain how his existing account is managed by "non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (V7QeA)
Arrogant narcissistic self important jackass will host SNL before his term is up. I bet he's already asked to and his handlers told him "no."
357 >>President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'A] WTF - is this what Obama thinks is important? Get that selfie stick outta yer a$$, bucko.B] So will he now explain how his existing account is managed by "non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:18 PM (V7QeA)
Arrogant narcissistic self important jackass will host SNL before his term is up. I bet he's already asked to and his handlers told him "no."
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (zt+N6)
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>>" We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight. "
And repeal the laws of physics after that!!
And repeal the laws of physics after that!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (V7QeA)
Posted by: Barack Ofeckless the Imbecile at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (ODxAs)
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"We need to ruthlessly seize private property so train tracks can be straight."
Also, all you hills, valleys, rivers, and cities--comport yourselves to the stupid.
Also, all you hills, valleys, rivers, and cities--comport yourselves to the stupid.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (659DL)
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I imagine Valerie Jarret has a list of meaningless things she can do to distract the growing number of LIV's from here on out when news like this comes out, like creating a twitter account for the moron. When they need something, they just get the checklist.
Posted by: Eli Cash at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (a+WIL)
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Did Obama tweet out something yet like "Heard about your mother dying, LOL", thinking it means lots-of-love?
Posted by: Roy at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (VndSC)
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What steams me the most is not that The One would lie to protect his reputation (many or many stripes are guilty of that) but that he would so casually, gleefully it seems, throw Free Speech to the dogs (you thought it was going for under the bus didn't you?)
Even if it was "because of a video" (which of course it wasn't) but especially if it was "because of a video" I'd expect an American President to use a real Teachable Moment (TM) to tell the world that we allow anyone to say whatever, to anyone, about anyones relgion and fek off if you don't like because that's how freedom rolls. TFG the exact opposite, of course. Not my President. Not even an American.
Even if it was "because of a video" (which of course it wasn't) but especially if it was "because of a video" I'd expect an American President to use a real Teachable Moment (TM) to tell the world that we allow anyone to say whatever, to anyone, about anyones relgion and fek off if you don't like because that's how freedom rolls. TFG the exact opposite, of course. Not my President. Not even an American.
Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (HEo6y)
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And repeal the laws of physics after that!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (V7QeA)
It cannae be done!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (V7QeA)
It cannae be done!
Posted by: Lt. Cdr. Scott at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (2Ojst)
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"Who ARE the whoopass fajitas?!"
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B] So will he now explain how his existing account is managed by
"non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
C] Is he gonna give the password to Hillary in 2017?
"non-partisan" 501c OFA - formerly his re-election campaign group?
C] Is he gonna give the password to Hillary in 2017?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (ZKzrr)
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Letting Obama tweet unsupervised, what could go wrong? Assuming it really is Obama, and he really is unsupervised, and he really is tweeting what he thinks. All of which are suspect.
Posted by: Chas Bud Flowers at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (54Y2g)
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Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 18, 2015 02:21 PM (HEo6y)
If I remember right, they threw video guy in jail on a trumped up probation violation.
If I remember right, they threw video guy in jail on a trumped up probation violation.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (sWgE+)
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Obama's new Twitter account is like the "New and Improved Tide" ad campaign that is a classic example of how commercial can backfire.
Tide for years said "Our laundry soap is the best on the market! It's great! Buy it!"
But a few decades back they then came out with a new campaign for "New and Improved Tide" that essentially implied, "That old stuff? Man, was that low-quality compared to our NEW GREAT STUFF!"
The public responded with, "Wait -- you mean you were lying to us before? Fuck you!"
The same holds true for Obama's Twitter accounts.
2009: "Hi! It's me, Barack Obama! This is my own Twitter account!"
2015: "Hi again! Remember that previous Twitter account? Well, that was totally fake! This is the REAL one!"
Public: "Fuck you."
Tide for years said "Our laundry soap is the best on the market! It's great! Buy it!"
But a few decades back they then came out with a new campaign for "New and Improved Tide" that essentially implied, "That old stuff? Man, was that low-quality compared to our NEW GREAT STUFF!"
The public responded with, "Wait -- you mean you were lying to us before? Fuck you!"
The same holds true for Obama's Twitter accounts.
2009: "Hi! It's me, Barack Obama! This is my own Twitter account!"
2015: "Hi again! Remember that previous Twitter account? Well, that was totally fake! This is the REAL one!"
Public: "Fuck you."
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (jBuUi)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:13 PM (afQnV)
Create ISIS?
I mean... technically, no, we didn't.
But but for our (and our Sunni allies) interference, Assad would have most likely crushed ISIS in its infancy. Especially considering the fact that he was being armed and re inforced by both the Iranians and the Russians.
It was a proxy war -- Sunni v Shia, and we backed the Sunnis (and most likely provided logistical support).
And yes, we do (allegedly) have large caches of Soviet weapons lying around. Plausible deniability about the source, since they're everywhere. US or German weapons are pretty easy to figure out the chain of custody on. Old Soviet weapons? Not so much.
Create ISIS?
I mean... technically, no, we didn't.
But but for our (and our Sunni allies) interference, Assad would have most likely crushed ISIS in its infancy. Especially considering the fact that he was being armed and re inforced by both the Iranians and the Russians.
It was a proxy war -- Sunni v Shia, and we backed the Sunnis (and most likely provided logistical support).
And yes, we do (allegedly) have large caches of Soviet weapons lying around. Plausible deniability about the source, since they're everywhere. US or German weapons are pretty easy to figure out the chain of custody on. Old Soviet weapons? Not so much.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:25 PM (AkOaV)
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>>What steams me the most is not that The One would lie to protect his
reputation (many or many stripes are guilty of that) but that he would
so casually, gleefully it seems, throw Free Speech to the dogs (you
thought it was going for under the bus didn't you?)
Obama was OK leaving 30 people to die in an unprotected consulate.
Obama was OK with hundreds of people dying from the use of guns being sold to cartels by ATF.
Obama has been fine w/our troops dying at a much higher rate thanks to his restrictive ROE and overall Iraq and Afghanistan pull-out strategies.
Why wouldn't he be OK with free speech dying, too?
reputation (many or many stripes are guilty of that) but that he would
so casually, gleefully it seems, throw Free Speech to the dogs (you
thought it was going for under the bus didn't you?)
Obama was OK leaving 30 people to die in an unprotected consulate.
Obama was OK with hundreds of people dying from the use of guns being sold to cartels by ATF.
Obama has been fine w/our troops dying at a much higher rate thanks to his restrictive ROE and overall Iraq and Afghanistan pull-out strategies.
Why wouldn't he be OK with free speech dying, too?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:25 PM (V7QeA)
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@374
Why yes, yes they did. To encourage the others.
Why yes, yes they did. To encourage the others.
Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 18, 2015 02:25 PM (HEo6y)
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The media is so deeply and overwhelmingly corrupted by communist ideology that it's hard for even us to grasp how bad things have become and what things could be like if they weren't so corrupt.
When the USSR fell and information started trickling in, people were astonished at the degree of lies they were told.
Every Russian citizen KNEW the media were lying to them. However, with no anchor of truth, they didn't know how adrift from the truth they really were.
I think the same thing is happening here. We know Barack and Co are lying every time they open their mouths, but it's hard to know what's really going on when there's no actual source of truth on some of the matters that are important to us.
When the USSR fell and information started trickling in, people were astonished at the degree of lies they were told.
Every Russian citizen KNEW the media were lying to them. However, with no anchor of truth, they didn't know how adrift from the truth they really were.
I think the same thing is happening here. We know Barack and Co are lying every time they open their mouths, but it's hard to know what's really going on when there's no actual source of truth on some of the matters that are important to us.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 18, 2015 02:26 PM (jhqr1)
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Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (sWgE+)
allegedly part of his probation was that he was not allowed to access the internet. Which he violated by uploading a video to YouTube.
allegedly part of his probation was that he was not allowed to access the internet. Which he violated by uploading a video to YouTube.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:26 PM (AkOaV)
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Stevens had a meeting in Benghazi that morning with a Libyan official from AGOCO about ramping up production of oil.
Benghazi is a major hub for oil transport.
Benghazi is a major hub for oil transport.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:27 PM (RJMhd)
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Something along those lines.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:28 PM (RJMhd)
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@380
You may inspire someone to codify politically incorrect speech as "cyberstalking" and as penalty block all web access to those convicted of said crime. Dissident problem solved.
You may inspire someone to codify politically incorrect speech as "cyberstalking" and as penalty block all web access to those convicted of said crime. Dissident problem solved.
Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 18, 2015 02:28 PM (HEo6y)
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371 "Who ARE the whoopass fajitas?!"
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (nqiq9)
Is that really the best you can do?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (nqiq9)
Is that really the best you can do?
Posted by: Special Agent Bloom at May 18, 2015 02:28 PM (2Ojst)
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Puppet show and President Obama.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 18, 2015 02:29 PM (JoIcn)
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instead of feeling shame or responsibility Obama used the Moment to Tell the American people.
1 Who the future Belongs to
and To Shut up.
1 Who the future Belongs to
and To Shut up.
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:29 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:29 PM (fWAjv)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:20 PM (g1DWB)
No, he was openly giving them "non lethal" aid before Benghazi, and the McCains of the world were openly advocating for arming them to the teeth.
Obama was floating the test balloon for arming them, in other words.
While Saudi Arabia and Qatar and most likely Turkey *were* arming the "rebels" with weapons / money they most likely got from us, directly or indirectly.
In other words, the admin knew what was going on and was supporting it. If they didnt want our gulf / Sunni allies involved in Syria, they could have stopped it. They either turned a blind eye or (more likely) were helping the Sunnis.
Remember, this was all in the context of the "arab spring" bring democracy and socialism and all of that great stuff to the Muslim world.
No, he was openly giving them "non lethal" aid before Benghazi, and the McCains of the world were openly advocating for arming them to the teeth.
Obama was floating the test balloon for arming them, in other words.
While Saudi Arabia and Qatar and most likely Turkey *were* arming the "rebels" with weapons / money they most likely got from us, directly or indirectly.
In other words, the admin knew what was going on and was supporting it. If they didnt want our gulf / Sunni allies involved in Syria, they could have stopped it. They either turned a blind eye or (more likely) were helping the Sunnis.
Remember, this was all in the context of the "arab spring" bring democracy and socialism and all of that great stuff to the Muslim world.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (AkOaV)
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386
instead of feeling shame or responsibility Obama used the Moment to Tell the American people.
1 Who the future Belongs to
and To Shut up.
Because I'm off to Vegas Baby!
instead of feeling shame or responsibility Obama used the Moment to Tell the American people.
1 Who the future Belongs to
and To Shut up.
Because I'm off to Vegas Baby!
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (Bn6aD)
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>> Stevens had a meeting in Benghazi that morning with a Libyan official from AGOCO about ramping up production of oil.
A meeting with the Turkish Consul shortly before he was killed that evening. Turkey is a major transit hub for weapons going to Syrian rebels.
A meeting with the Turkish Consul shortly before he was killed that evening. Turkey is a major transit hub for weapons going to Syrian rebels.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (g1DWB)
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we shouldn't really be surprised at the Media.
They Are the ones who Brought Him .
They Are the ones who Brought Him .
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (nqBYe)
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This feels like it is a big deal. It should be a big deal if the substance of the memo is as said. (Meaning there isn't anything else in the memo that contradicts the conclusions I'm reading here and at HotAir.)
But even so, Obama is leaving office. He got what he wanted: re-election. How can we make this stick to Hillary? Its sad I think but I don't know what we will be able to do with this information.
Does anyone really think someone in Congress or in the Executive Branch will lose their job over this?
But even so, Obama is leaving office. He got what he wanted: re-election. How can we make this stick to Hillary? Its sad I think but I don't know what we will be able to do with this information.
Does anyone really think someone in Congress or in the Executive Branch will lose their job over this?
Posted by: FSU Hurricane at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (8+hyN)
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this is the first that Obola has heard about this...
if only such a great man wasn't surrounded by all these incompetents, he would be farther along in cleaning up the mess Bush left behind.
if only such a great man wasn't surrounded by all these incompetents, he would be farther along in cleaning up the mess Bush left behind.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (pZtrP)
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Will this even harsh TFG's mellow?
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (IPzoI)
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wrg, nope, you don't disagree with me, you disagree with the facts WRT US law, covert operation findings, and other matters. We agree on the substance and policy questions, I'm sure. There is nothing about even a hypothetical arms transfer op that would be illegal, with a proper intel committee finding.
JackStraw, nope, again, not gonna persist here, but the scandal was the killing of four US personnel incl. a chief of mission under inexcusable security conditions (lack of protection). No killings, we're not even talking about this.
And I know you don't believe that, in the country that elected this guy twice, the "scandalous" discovery of a covert arms op to rebels after the president's repeated public opposition to such a policy would have changed anything. Seriously?
I'm talking hereonly about practial political impact. Not substance of policy (we probably won't disagree much there). But look at what actually happened in the country, in the campaign, in the press, in the intel community, at State. The president strutting around a lumpen rally in Vegas when the bodies were still warm. Nothing about "motive" or backstory would have changed a thing. I want to live in the country you imply - but it sickens me that we don't.
wrg, nope, you don't disagree with me, you disagree with the facts WRT US law, covert operation findings, and other matters. We agree on the substance and policy questions, I'm sure. There is nothing about even a hypothetical arms transfer op that would be illegal, with a proper intel committee finding.
JackStraw, nope, again, not gonna persist here, but the scandal was the killing of four US personnel incl. a chief of mission under inexcusable security conditions (lack of protection). No killings, we're not even talking about this.
And I know you don't believe that, in the country that elected this guy twice, the "scandalous" discovery of a covert arms op to rebels after the president's repeated public opposition to such a policy would have changed anything. Seriously?
I'm talking hereonly about practial political impact. Not substance of policy (we probably won't disagree much there). But look at what actually happened in the country, in the campaign, in the press, in the intel community, at State. The president strutting around a lumpen rally in Vegas when the bodies were still warm. Nothing about "motive" or backstory would have changed a thing. I want to live in the country you imply - but it sickens me that we don't.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (afQnV)
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A meeting with the Turkish Consul shortly before he was killed that evening. Turkey is a major transit hub for weapons going to Syrian rebels.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (g1DWB)
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Correct. The Turks have admitted they were there.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:30 PM (g1DWB)
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Correct. The Turks have admitted they were there.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (/HX7u)
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Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:27 PM (RJMhd)
All western NGOs and western diplomats had long since pulled out of Benghazi.
Stevens was in an undefended rented house, his handful of guards were unarmed (they had arms on the property, but not on their persons). In other words, highly bizarre.
They were there in a low key way. and the last person stevens met with was the Turkish ambassador. Read in to that what you will...
All western NGOs and western diplomats had long since pulled out of Benghazi.
Stevens was in an undefended rented house, his handful of guards were unarmed (they had arms on the property, but not on their persons). In other words, highly bizarre.
They were there in a low key way. and the last person stevens met with was the Turkish ambassador. Read in to that what you will...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (AkOaV)
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Liars gotta lie.
Posted by: Sponge at May 18, 2015 02:32 PM (F4u7C)
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There's going to be one killer blues session in heaven tonight.'
http://tinyurl.com/lr9bj8f
Narcissistic. Jackass.
http://tinyurl.com/lr9bj8f
Narcissistic. Jackass.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:32 PM (fWAjv)
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Mr Foster, knowing what you know now, would you ever associate with Hillary Clinton or any of her minion's alone in a private residence or possibly a public park?
Mr Foster, knowing what you know now, would you ever associate with Hillary Clinton or any of her minion's alone in a private residence or possibly a public park?
Posted by: Constance Bledsoe, US Attorney at May 18, 2015 02:33 PM (P330y)
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Will this even harsh TFG's mellow?
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (IPzoI)
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It's impossible to feel anything when one has no soul.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (IPzoI)
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It's impossible to feel anything when one has no soul.
Posted by: Soona at May 18, 2015 02:33 PM (/HX7u)
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347
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv)
Who is "they"? Don't people usually start their own Twitter accounts? What prevented him from doing it for the last six years?
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv)
Who is "they"? Don't people usually start their own Twitter accounts? What prevented him from doing it for the last six years?
Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 02:34 PM (zoehZ)
403
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (kff5f)
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No. This deserves the whole thing.
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: President Narcissistic Personality Disorder at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (Qgr71)
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (IPzoI)
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Mohammedanism is an evil death cult.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:35 PM (659DL)
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To break with the horde here, I don't think Benghazi was a huge deal (politically).
Just typical government duplicity combined with typical government incompetence combined with typical government CYA shit.
But Obama was on a roll with his "bin Laden is dead, GM is alive. Al Qaeda is on the run" campaign talking points and didn't want his talking points interrupted by reality.
Just typical government duplicity combined with typical government incompetence combined with typical government CYA shit.
But Obama was on a roll with his "bin Laden is dead, GM is alive. Al Qaeda is on the run" campaign talking points and didn't want his talking points interrupted by reality.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 18, 2015 02:36 PM (ZKzrr)
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Holy crap I forgo about the Turkish problem.
Turkey worries the hell ought of me- it's geographical position just for starters then its military being sidelined...
Turkey worries the hell ought of me- it's geographical position just for starters then its military being sidelined...
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:37 PM (RJMhd)
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Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 02:34 PM (zoehZ)
"they" could mean his staff (likely) or the secret service (who historically don't want presidents using any electronics) or some kind of archiving people (who have to archive everything the president does and dont feel like arching 140 character stupid tweets).
I don't think it means anything.
"they" could mean his staff (likely) or the secret service (who historically don't want presidents using any electronics) or some kind of archiving people (who have to archive everything the president does and dont feel like arching 140 character stupid tweets).
I don't think it means anything.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:37 PM (AkOaV)
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This proves nothing. The important goal remains the destruction of the Zionist entity, justice for the oppressed Palestinian people, and the installation of America's historic first woman President in keeping with a progressive ideology and for social justice.
Justice for Palestine, and death to wreckers, deviationalists, and kulaks.
Justice for Palestine, and death to wreckers, deviationalists, and kulaks.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 18, 2015 02:37 PM (h3U2l)
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384 371 "Who ARE the whoopass fajitas?!"
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (nqiq9)
Is that really the best you can do?
Posted by: Special Agent Bloom at May 18, 2015 02:28 PM (2Ojst)
"Ding, dong, Motherfvckers, DIIING! DOOONG!!"
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:23 PM (nqiq9)
Is that really the best you can do?
Posted by: Special Agent Bloom at May 18, 2015 02:28 PM (2Ojst)
"Ding, dong, Motherfvckers, DIIING! DOOONG!!"
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:37 PM (nqiq9)
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Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:37 PM (RJMhd)
Also, they're NATO allies who were are duty bound to go to war on behalf of if they ever ask us to.
Which in retrospect was not the smartest treaty to sign.
Also, they're NATO allies who were are duty bound to go to war on behalf of if they ever ask us to.
Which in retrospect was not the smartest treaty to sign.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (kff5f)
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Anybody remember Reagan's Iran Contra affair. The MSM and the democraps couldn't scurry fast enough to try and pin Reagan down and get him impeached.
Funny how 30 years later we are still talking about dealing in arms (illegally) only this time it is with the democraps blessing.
Funny how 30 years later we are still talking about dealing in arms (illegally) only this time it is with the democraps blessing.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (DlmoZ)
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rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:31 PM (afQnV)
Well we are going to agree to disagree on this one. Many people on the right were very critical of Obama's Libyan strategy and thought exactly what did happen would happen, Libya turned into a failed state and terrorist haven and Libyan weapons flowing to militants around the region.
Obama tried to claim Libya was a foreign policy success much like, ahem, Yemen. Weeks before he re-election bid he was eager to keep up this facade and put the blame for the killings in Benghazi on someone else.
It is important for people to know why Stevens was in Benghazi that night. Why we had such a big CIA presence in that city. Hillary's "what difference at this point does it make" was wrong when she said it and its wrong now. It makes a big difference.
Well we are going to agree to disagree on this one. Many people on the right were very critical of Obama's Libyan strategy and thought exactly what did happen would happen, Libya turned into a failed state and terrorist haven and Libyan weapons flowing to militants around the region.
Obama tried to claim Libya was a foreign policy success much like, ahem, Yemen. Weeks before he re-election bid he was eager to keep up this facade and put the blame for the killings in Benghazi on someone else.
It is important for people to know why Stevens was in Benghazi that night. Why we had such a big CIA presence in that city. Hillary's "what difference at this point does it make" was wrong when she said it and its wrong now. It makes a big difference.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (g1DWB)
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Of all the horrid things that have have ened during this administration this to me was the worst. And those 2 guys that sacrificed their lives for all those that got out that horrific night need to be honored and awarded. The criminals that aided and abetted this on our side need to go to jail.
Posted by: small town girl, crusader at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (0PD0H)
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402 347
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv)
Who is "they"? Don't people usually start their own Twitter accounts? What prevented him from doing it for the last six years?
Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 02:34 PM (zoehZ)
His handlers. Probably including Valerie Jarrett and Michelle. Like I said the same people that are probably keeping him from hosting SNL. You know he wants to. And he probably will before he leaves office.
President Obama tweeted: 'Hello, Twitter! It's Barack. Really! Six years in, they're finally giving me my own account.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 18, 2015 02:16 PM (fWAjv)
Who is "they"? Don't people usually start their own Twitter accounts? What prevented him from doing it for the last six years?
Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2015 02:34 PM (zoehZ)
His handlers. Probably including Valerie Jarrett and Michelle. Like I said the same people that are probably keeping him from hosting SNL. You know he wants to. And he probably will before he leaves office.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (zt+N6)
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416
Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (kff5f)
I too have made this my mantra. +1
Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:38 PM (kff5f)
I too have made this my mantra. +1
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at May 18, 2015 02:39 PM (DlmoZ)
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Edit : Turkish *meeting*
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:39 PM (RJMhd)
423
Ace's a little stingy on the content today. EWOK holiday this weekend?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqiq9)
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I doubt Stevens was down with the threat of dying, Otherwise why multiple emails asking for security?
which is why i know we are bubkis to them.
he was THEIR ambassador chosen by Them and they let him die to not fk up their plans and to win an election.
so what are we ?
what are any american? a stevens or an
obscure video guy..
which is why i know we are bubkis to them.
he was THEIR ambassador chosen by Them and they let him die to not fk up their plans and to win an election.
so what are we ?
what are any american? a stevens or an
obscure video guy..
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqBYe)
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They lie, They cheat, They delete Emails, They ignore the Law, They gut our Defense, They destroy all our alliances, They try to destroy all religions except islam.
Good times ha?
Good times ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (rDqRv)
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Ace's a little stingy on the content today. EWOK holiday this weekend?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqiq9)
Emergency Hobo Hunting trip to Waco?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqiq9)
Emergency Hobo Hunting trip to Waco?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 02:42 PM (rDqRv)
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Hey could you guys keep it down with the Benghazi stuff?
We are trying to save His delicious pork-stuffed trade bill over here!
*snarf snorf smack*
We are trying to save His delicious pork-stuffed trade bill over here!
*snarf snorf smack*
Posted by: Your GOP at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (Qgr71)
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Strategically you keep a message or line of political attack simple and defined to what is easily provable.
Maybe lawyers would get it.
You could have gotten to the other issues later.
Maybe lawyers would get it.
You could have gotten to the other issues later.
Posted by: River Guide at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (RJMhd)
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Ayatollah Khamenei Claims The Jews And America Are Secretly Behind So-Called Islamic Countries Like Saudi Arabia Attacking Shia Rebels In Yemen
Weasel Zippers
Yeah sure, I mean in my spare time
Weasel Zippers
Yeah sure, I mean in my spare time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (rDqRv)
431
Ace has a Rocket victory hangover probably.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (IPzoI)
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newhandle, no we could not simply stop any Gulf or other aid to Syrian rebels if we wanted to. Very few states (these days, almost none) simply ask how high when we say "jump!". We have divergent approaches, and actual policies to match, with many allied or cooperative countries in various conflict zones. Syria presents a perfect example, where the outside interveners have wildly divergent approaches, contacts, and (to a lesser extent, oddly) goals.
And it does not appear, and there is no way to meaningfully assess, whether any specific outside aid allowed ISIS to grow. A lot more wheels turning than that in Syria in the last 3 years.
Anyway my only point since the first comment in the morning's eternal dump thread was to point out that whatever the substantive importance of the Syrian-rebel-aid-via-Benghazi topic, it would have made no *political* difference in 2012. Yes all historical counter-factuals are dicey, but some are less dicey than others. I cannot begin to see the America or the campaign in 2012 that would have had a different outcome if the "reason" for Stevens' inexcusable insecure visit to Beghazi had been a covert arms operation.
Absolutely justified to savage Hillary with all this, of course. Not that it will probably do much good. But blood on her hands really does exceed low ability, very low character, and lack of talent as a reason she must be stopped.
newhandle, no we could not simply stop any Gulf or other aid to Syrian rebels if we wanted to. Very few states (these days, almost none) simply ask how high when we say "jump!". We have divergent approaches, and actual policies to match, with many allied or cooperative countries in various conflict zones. Syria presents a perfect example, where the outside interveners have wildly divergent approaches, contacts, and (to a lesser extent, oddly) goals.
And it does not appear, and there is no way to meaningfully assess, whether any specific outside aid allowed ISIS to grow. A lot more wheels turning than that in Syria in the last 3 years.
Anyway my only point since the first comment in the morning's eternal dump thread was to point out that whatever the substantive importance of the Syrian-rebel-aid-via-Benghazi topic, it would have made no *political* difference in 2012. Yes all historical counter-factuals are dicey, but some are less dicey than others. I cannot begin to see the America or the campaign in 2012 that would have had a different outcome if the "reason" for Stevens' inexcusable insecure visit to Beghazi had been a covert arms operation.
Absolutely justified to savage Hillary with all this, of course. Not that it will probably do much good. But blood on her hands really does exceed low ability, very low character, and lack of talent as a reason she must be stopped.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (afQnV)
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423 Ace's a little stingy on the content today. EWOK holiday this weekend?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft
Things have gotten so bad that if we don't learn about some new Democratic scandal or leftist outrage every 90 minutes or so, we just assume that the news feed must be on the fritz.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft
Things have gotten so bad that if we don't learn about some new Democratic scandal or leftist outrage every 90 minutes or so, we just assume that the news feed must be on the fritz.
Posted by: zombie at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (jBuUi)
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My disgust with the administration is almost matched by my disgust with the GOPe.
GOPe- "Nothing to see here. Move along. What we're not telling you is we knew what was going on. They got our back. We've got theirs. "
GOPe- "Nothing to see here. Move along. What we're not telling you is we knew what was going on. They got our back. We've got theirs. "
Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 02:45 PM (5MYBq)
435
Yeah sure, I mean in my spare time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (rDqRv)
You know the sad thing about this? If we just interdicted the ME (provided we could find some way to continue to support Israel), Mohammedanism would destroy itself in a generation or two.
Seriously, they hate each other almost as much as they hate America and the Jews- if they couldn't *get* at those two groups, they'd kill each other quite happily.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (rDqRv)
You know the sad thing about this? If we just interdicted the ME (provided we could find some way to continue to support Israel), Mohammedanism would destroy itself in a generation or two.
Seriously, they hate each other almost as much as they hate America and the Jews- if they couldn't *get* at those two groups, they'd kill each other quite happily.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:46 PM (kff5f)
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>>he was THEIR ambassador chosen by Them and they let him die to not fk up their plans and to win an election.
Exactly - Stevens was one of their own, life-long Democrat and such an asset in the region given his experience, language skills, etc. That they would so easily disregard his life as well as 30+ others who worked for them has always been chilling.
Exactly - Stevens was one of their own, life-long Democrat and such an asset in the region given his experience, language skills, etc. That they would so easily disregard his life as well as 30+ others who worked for them has always been chilling.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (V7QeA)
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what are any american? a stevens or an
obscure video guy..
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqBYe)
Point, distilled to its essence regarding use against Hillary and her current messaging. She is not one of us. She is an alien being; subhuman.
obscure video guy..
Posted by: willow at May 18, 2015 02:41 PM (nqBYe)
Point, distilled to its essence regarding use against Hillary and her current messaging. She is not one of us. She is an alien being; subhuman.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (ecDRv)
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (LA7Cm)
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The end of hope for me was realizing some years back that, no matter how much evidence was provided, no consequences would ever come to these criminals.
It stopped being about right and wrong a long time ago. Now there is only winning.
It stopped being about right and wrong a long time ago. Now there is only winning.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (xeeHA)
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New schedule for sportscasting has arrived. USA Baseball U-15, etc. East Championship games in Virginia, Olympic qualifying Archery in Alabama and even Rodeo in NC, among other sports/one-time Events. I'll get "my games" in a few days, this is just the master sheet that we can declare ourselves unavailable on.
Posted by: LincolnTf at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (2cS/G)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:44 PM (afQnV)
Sure.
Except I think you're wrong on the house of Saud.
They would fall in 2 hours without a power sponsor state like the US.
They can barely contain the Wahhabis who the co-govern with, and without western oil money and western arms, they would not be able to keep the country together.
They have HUGE targets on their backs due to Mecca and Medina (not to mention the sweet, sweet, oil).
Qatar is a similar story.
Which is why the Saudis and Qataris have been funding Egypt, giving money to Pakistan, etc etc -- they want as many allies in their corner as possible.
Sure.
Except I think you're wrong on the house of Saud.
They would fall in 2 hours without a power sponsor state like the US.
They can barely contain the Wahhabis who the co-govern with, and without western oil money and western arms, they would not be able to keep the country together.
They have HUGE targets on their backs due to Mecca and Medina (not to mention the sweet, sweet, oil).
Qatar is a similar story.
Which is why the Saudis and Qataris have been funding Egypt, giving money to Pakistan, etc etc -- they want as many allies in their corner as possible.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (AkOaV)
443
Inorite
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (IPzoI)
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The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s. The involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation. The former intelligence official explained that for years there has been a recognised exception in the law that permits the CIA not to report liaison activity to Congress, which would otherwise be owed a finding.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (sWgE+)
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>>Ayatollah Khamenei Claims The Jews And America Are Secretly Behind
So-Called Islamic Countries Like Saudi Arabia Attacking Shia Rebels
In Yemen
D@mn shape-shifterz!!!!
So-Called Islamic Countries Like Saudi Arabia Attacking Shia Rebels
In Yemen
D@mn shape-shifterz!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:48 PM (V7QeA)
446
You know perfectly well.
Posted by: Fritz' girlfriend at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (JtwS4)
447
The Twitterverse is compairing police response between Baltimore riots and Waco Biker gang battle.
http://tinyurl.com/mf4ltxj
From WZ WTF
http://tinyurl.com/mf4ltxj
From WZ WTF
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (aVYsC)
448
434 My disgust with the administration is almost matched by my disgust with the GOPe. GOPe- "Nothing to see here. Move along. What we're not telling you is we knew what was going on. They got our back. We've got theirs. "
Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 02:45 PM (5MYBq)
Stop looking too deep into this. If you keep it up these stupid voters might actually demand we do something about these pathetic lies and likely criminal coverups instead of us just being able to use them as a way to sucker them into voting for us!
434 My disgust with the administration is almost matched by my disgust with the GOPe. GOPe- "Nothing to see here. Move along. What we're not telling you is we knew what was going on. They got our back. We've got theirs. "
Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 02:45 PM (5MYBq)
Stop looking too deep into this. If you keep it up these stupid voters might actually demand we do something about these pathetic lies and likely criminal coverups instead of us just being able to use them as a way to sucker them into voting for us!
Posted by: Boehner at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (zt+N6)
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Sooo... What was obvious to anyone paying attention from the get-go turns out to be true... The same people who ignored all of this then will ignore it now... Does this change something? The media will not publicize this "new" revelation any more than it did the prior events. Why does this get the red font headline?
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (sPp6M)
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Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Quietly Seething at May 18, 2015 02:46 PM (kff5f)
I'd argue they hate each other more than they hate the Jews or Christian infidels.
The tribal bullshit goes back to pre-Islam days. They've been fighting each other since the beginning of recorded history.
I'd argue they hate each other more than they hate the Jews or Christian infidels.
The tribal bullshit goes back to pre-Islam days. They've been fighting each other since the beginning of recorded history.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:50 PM (AkOaV)
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Cue James Carville! They need him to mock us for saying, "Benghazi! Benghazi Benghazi!" when everyone knows there's nothing to see there!
Posted by: RKae at May 18, 2015 02:50 PM (kRGK/)
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>>The Twitterverse is compairing police response between Baltimore riots and Waco Biker gang battle.
I don't see the similarity - thought Ferguson and Baltimore were political activists (including out of town rabble-rousers + national media spotlight) getting out of control vs. gangs battling over turf.
Why would they be handled the same way?
I don't see the similarity - thought Ferguson and Baltimore were political activists (including out of town rabble-rousers + national media spotlight) getting out of control vs. gangs battling over turf.
Why would they be handled the same way?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (V7QeA)
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438
Why the phrase "on the fritz"?
Germans are renowned engineers.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (IPzoI)
Polish?
Why the phrase "on the fritz"?
Germans are renowned engineers.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (IPzoI)
Polish?
Posted by: Golfman at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (5MYBq)
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Ben Ghazi? Didn't he play the villain in Roadhouse?
Posted by: LIV at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (2Ojst)
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The Polish are a fine people with good Popes.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:52 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Fritz' girlfriend at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (JtwS4)
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Everything the Right said about Beghazi turned out to be true.
Everything Obama and the Left said turned out to be a lie.
Yet the Left won the Narrative.
Everything Obama and the Left said turned out to be a lie.
Yet the Left won the Narrative.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (ZPrif)
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Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (V7QeA)
Because they're lying hacks trying to get the yutes all worked up.
I'm sure I could find pictures of a crime scene in Chicago from any given weekend with several dead, and hundreds standing around, and the cops ignoring them.
But it's such a routine occurrence that the media no longer even shows up.
Because they're lying hacks trying to get the yutes all worked up.
I'm sure I could find pictures of a crime scene in Chicago from any given weekend with several dead, and hundreds standing around, and the cops ignoring them.
But it's such a routine occurrence that the media no longer even shows up.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (AkOaV)
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438
Why the phrase "on the fritz"?
Germans are renowned engineers.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (IPzoI)
Sounds plausible.
http://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-phrase-on-the-fritz-come-from
Why the phrase "on the fritz"?
Germans are renowned engineers.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 02:47 PM (IPzoI)
Sounds plausible.
http://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-phrase-on-the-fritz-come-from
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (ecDRv)
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Unfortunately very few care. At this point I think we're all just riding this out.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (mwcEF)
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Ayatollah Khamenei Claims The Jews And America Are Secretly Behind So-Called Islamic Countries Like Saudi Arabia Attacking Shia Rebels In Yemen
Just wait until we turn on the earthquake machine again.
Just wait until we turn on the earthquake machine again.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (659DL)
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Comment from a dog getting punched story on UK Daily Mail: If I found out who it was I'd go all ISIS on their a$$.
The commenter was from Australia.
Ultimately, Obama and the incompetent hacks he surrounds himself with have a lot to answer for.
The commenter was from Australia.
Ultimately, Obama and the incompetent hacks he surrounds himself with have a lot to answer for.
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (fMQoG)
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JackStraw, not even sure what you're arguing, but you're not arguing with me there.
Reason for large intel op in Benghazi was explained above. Would hold true regardless of any other issue involved here. It's the key place for us to have eyes/ears/recruits.
"What difference was does it make" was a surreal outrage in its own terms. What possible change to this would be made by info about covert ops in Libya? Nothing can illuminate or excuse this still-unbelievable statement by a SecState in Senate testimony.
I don't understand how covert ops changes anything. The scandal was in the killing of four personnel and the outlandish public prevarication about it (and the press/electorate's indifference).
JackStraw, not even sure what you're arguing, but you're not arguing with me there.
Reason for large intel op in Benghazi was explained above. Would hold true regardless of any other issue involved here. It's the key place for us to have eyes/ears/recruits.
"What difference was does it make" was a surreal outrage in its own terms. What possible change to this would be made by info about covert ops in Libya? Nothing can illuminate or excuse this still-unbelievable statement by a SecState in Senate testimony.
I don't understand how covert ops changes anything. The scandal was in the killing of four personnel and the outlandish public prevarication about it (and the press/electorate's indifference).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (afQnV)
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I'd be more interested in this if I thought the LIVs--who tragically hold the balance of power in this degenerate "republic"--cared about it, or anything other than getting their subsidies for existing. They don't. So long as they get theirs, they don't give a crap about anything else.
Should we care? Yes. Will it matter in the greater scheme? Boat's sailed. And it sucks but that's what we're facing.
Should we care? Yes. Will it matter in the greater scheme? Boat's sailed. And it sucks but that's what we're facing.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (DT3rQ)
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Why would they be handled the same way?>>>
The situations are apples to oranges so to compare is stupid but the must be compared because RACISM.
The situations are apples to oranges so to compare is stupid but the must be compared because RACISM.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (aVYsC)
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Why does this get the red font headline?
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (sPp6M)
Something about Hillary running for president, maybe?
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 02:49 PM (sPp6M)
Something about Hillary running for president, maybe?
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (ecDRv)
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Cue James Carville!
Yeah how is old Snakehead?
He's a good ole guy, understands how things work, how the game is played, dontcha know.
Well, off to my meeting with some fat corporate wallets. Trade deals ain't cheap and you gotta pay to play!
*snorfle, snuffle, smack*
Yeah how is old Snakehead?
He's a good ole guy, understands how things work, how the game is played, dontcha know.
Well, off to my meeting with some fat corporate wallets. Trade deals ain't cheap and you gotta pay to play!
*snorfle, snuffle, smack*
Posted by: Your GOP at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (Qgr71)
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If you're blue and you
don't know where to go to
Why don't you go where fashion sits?
Puttin' on the Fritz
If you're blue and you
don't know where to go to
Why don't you go where fashion sits?
Puttin' on the Fritz
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (NeFrd)
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460 Unfortunately very few care. At this point I think we're all just riding this out.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (mwcEF)
I think that is true.
Posted by: MMM at May 18, 2015 02:53 PM (mwcEF)
I think that is true.
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (sPp6M)
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http://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-phrase-on-the-fritz-come-from
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Man, I remember the Katzenjammer Kids.
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Man, I remember the Katzenjammer Kids.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (XUKZU)
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Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 18, 2015 02:54 PM (aVYsC)
Right. I'm still oscillating between "they are purposely trying to start race riots to bring about their socialist revolution" and "they're just idiots who like to rile up the yutes, because it makes for good TV", but either way, being lying hacks trying to create massive, irreconcilable racial divisions is their MO.
Right. I'm still oscillating between "they are purposely trying to start race riots to bring about their socialist revolution" and "they're just idiots who like to rile up the yutes, because it makes for good TV", but either way, being lying hacks trying to create massive, irreconcilable racial divisions is their MO.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 02:57 PM (AkOaV)
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447 The Twitterverse is compairing police response between Baltimore riots and Waco Biker gang battle.
When police tell bikers to sit down and shut up, the bikers do it. Unlike the rioters in Baltimore. And most of the dead now appear to have been shot by police.
So does the twitter verse want police to shoot rioters?
When police tell bikers to sit down and shut up, the bikers do it. Unlike the rioters in Baltimore. And most of the dead now appear to have been shot by police.
So does the twitter verse want police to shoot rioters?
Posted by: wooga at May 18, 2015 02:57 PM (g+Td3)
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Texas police arrest 192 and the left is unhappy.
Whatevs.
P.S.: Hey, remember when those bikers burned that CVS in Waco? Me neither.
Whatevs.
P.S.: Hey, remember when those bikers burned that CVS in Waco? Me neither.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:58 PM (659DL)
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The Twitterverse is compairing police response between Baltimore riots and Waco Biker gang battle.
If the Crips and Bloods had killed 9 of each other, the media would have yawned.
If the Crips and Bloods had killed 9 of each other, the media would have yawned.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 02:58 PM (oVJmc)
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467 Cue James Carville!Yeah how is old Snakehead?He's a good ole guy, understands how things work, how the game is played, dontcha know.Well, off to my meeting with some fat corporate wallets. Trade deals ain't cheap and you gotta pay to play!*snorfle, snuffle, smack*
Posted by: Your GOP at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (Qgr71)
Well he was around 500 years old when he emerged from the Misty Mountains to hunt for the Precious.
467 Cue James Carville!Yeah how is old Snakehead?He's a good ole guy, understands how things work, how the game is played, dontcha know.Well, off to my meeting with some fat corporate wallets. Trade deals ain't cheap and you gotta pay to play!*snorfle, snuffle, smack*
Posted by: Your GOP at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (Qgr71)
Well he was around 500 years old when he emerged from the Misty Mountains to hunt for the Precious.
Posted by: buzzion at May 18, 2015 02:59 PM (zt+N6)
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P.S.: Hey, remember when those bikers burned that CVS in Waco? Me neither.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:58 PM (659DL)
Pikers.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2015 02:58 PM (659DL)
Pikers.
Posted by: BATFE at May 18, 2015 02:59 PM (ecDRv)
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>>When police tell bikers to sit down and shut up, the bikers do it.
Unlike the rioters in Baltimore. And most of the dead now appear to
have been shot by police.
And the bikers don't have the MSM and local politicians on their side.
Obama will not be announcing the dead Joe Biker could have been his son if he had one. Obama will also NOT be telling us to be patient and put up w/biker gang crap because it leads to change.
Unlike the rioters in Baltimore. And most of the dead now appear to
have been shot by police.
And the bikers don't have the MSM and local politicians on their side.
Obama will not be announcing the dead Joe Biker could have been his son if he had one. Obama will also NOT be telling us to be patient and put up w/biker gang crap because it leads to change.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:59 PM (V7QeA)
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Texas police arrest 192 and the left is unhappy.
Just a bunch of motorcycle hobbies out for a sunday drive and the police get all shooty with them.
Just a bunch of motorcycle hobbies out for a sunday drive and the police get all shooty with them.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 18, 2015 03:00 PM (sWgE+)
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Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 18, 2015 02:58 PM (oVJmc)
It happens regularly.
Maybe not 9 dead, but there is gang violence, involving firearms and dead / wounded people every weekend night in every major city in the US during the summer.
It's such a regular occurrence that the "if it bleeds it leads" local media types don't even show up anymore.
It happens regularly.
Maybe not 9 dead, but there is gang violence, involving firearms and dead / wounded people every weekend night in every major city in the US during the summer.
It's such a regular occurrence that the "if it bleeds it leads" local media types don't even show up anymore.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)
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nood snuffleupagus
Posted by: BATFE at May 18, 2015 03:01 PM (ecDRv)
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Nood Steffy
Posted by: Your GOP at May 18, 2015 03:02 PM (Qgr71)
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Somebody posted a Chicago Murder website here that is gruesomely amusing.
Posted by: eleven at May 18, 2015 03:02 PM (IPzoI)
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The Twitterverse is compairing police response between Baltimore riots and Waco Biker gang battle.
What a GREAT idea!
Baltimore: urban area controlled by dems since the 60s. Black mayor. Unionized police force. Half the cops accused are black, one is a woman. Rioters loot, burn businesses (mostly black owned) and cop cars. Police are injured.
Waco: Texas. nuff said. Police are aware of, and cannot legally stop a meeting of biker gangs. Said gangs commence festivities. Once started, police join in. Thus far, all reports indicate that the bikers kiiled and injured themselves and only themselves. No word yet on whether they traded gunfire with police.
What a GREAT idea!
Baltimore: urban area controlled by dems since the 60s. Black mayor. Unionized police force. Half the cops accused are black, one is a woman. Rioters loot, burn businesses (mostly black owned) and cop cars. Police are injured.
Waco: Texas. nuff said. Police are aware of, and cannot legally stop a meeting of biker gangs. Said gangs commence festivities. Once started, police join in. Thus far, all reports indicate that the bikers kiiled and injured themselves and only themselves. No word yet on whether they traded gunfire with police.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 18, 2015 03:03 PM (Spluw)
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newhandle, I'll bow out here, but you are explaining things to someone with many years direct experience in these specific topics, so even though I'm sure you don't mean to be, it's coming across as annoying and condescending. I'm more than very, verywell versed in things Gulf, intel, and Saudi-US.
And jeebus, strawman the size of Godzilla, nobody was talking about the US "dumping" the Saudis, nor would be consider it, over one more of the sort of divergent approaches we've had on key issues over many years. I was just knocking down your untrue claim that the Saudis would simply comply with any US request WRT Syrian rebel policy. They wouldn't, shouldn't, and it would not rise to the level of major crisis (unlike our insane surrender to Tehran).
wrg, so you're agreeing that there was nothing illegal (via the "liaison" exception to findings). Plausible. But not illegal. And - if the intel committees cared/opposed it, they could do something about it.
Again, not a matter of substance or policy. Not sure what I think of it, and in any case don't have the details to make an intelligent judgement. But you kept leading with "illegal" and that was obviously incorrect, and certainly raised questions about your seriousness.
newhandle, I'll bow out here, but you are explaining things to someone with many years direct experience in these specific topics, so even though I'm sure you don't mean to be, it's coming across as annoying and condescending. I'm more than very, verywell versed in things Gulf, intel, and Saudi-US.
And jeebus, strawman the size of Godzilla, nobody was talking about the US "dumping" the Saudis, nor would be consider it, over one more of the sort of divergent approaches we've had on key issues over many years. I was just knocking down your untrue claim that the Saudis would simply comply with any US request WRT Syrian rebel policy. They wouldn't, shouldn't, and it would not rise to the level of major crisis (unlike our insane surrender to Tehran).
wrg, so you're agreeing that there was nothing illegal (via the "liaison" exception to findings). Plausible. But not illegal. And - if the intel committees cared/opposed it, they could do something about it.
Again, not a matter of substance or policy. Not sure what I think of it, and in any case don't have the details to make an intelligent judgement. But you kept leading with "illegal" and that was obviously incorrect, and certainly raised questions about your seriousness.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 03:03 PM (afQnV)
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eleven, yes, I've bookmarked it. Odd URL of hey jackass dot com. Nicely done.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 03:04 PM (afQnV)
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Why would they be handled the same way?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (V7QeA)
Fewer weapons with the bikers?
/s
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2015 02:51 PM (V7QeA)
Fewer weapons with the bikers?
/s
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 03:04 PM (nqiq9)
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>>don't understand how covert ops changes anything. The scandal was in the killing of four personnel and the outlandish public prevarication about it (and the press/electorate's indifference).
Of course the killings of our four personnel is an outrage. Nobody is arguing that. But your insistence that the reason, a reason the Obama administration has stonewalled and lied about since the moment it happened, isn't important is wrong in my eyes. Were it not, Obama and his team would not have done everything in their power to hide including sending an innocent man to jail.
It's important to put things in the context of when they happened. Again, this was weeks before his re-election at a time he was running on among other things his success in Libya and his strategy such as it were in the larger ME. Of course we all knew it was a lie but most of the country didn't and still doesn't thanks to the msm.
If we are ever going to really start turning things around we need to be able to point to concrete examples of how Obama has lied and used the msm to carry his water. People need to see this stuff if for no other reason than to begin to understand what some of us have known for years.
Obama is a dishonest prick and his lies have put this country in great peril. I'm willing to be that the reason Stevens was in Benghazi was to deal with arms shipment issues and the reason his security was so light was because this was a mission Obama was eager to hide from the American people. About time this kind of shit was brought to light and it takes nothing away from the outrage over the people sacrificed to Obama's insane policies.
Of course the killings of our four personnel is an outrage. Nobody is arguing that. But your insistence that the reason, a reason the Obama administration has stonewalled and lied about since the moment it happened, isn't important is wrong in my eyes. Were it not, Obama and his team would not have done everything in their power to hide including sending an innocent man to jail.
It's important to put things in the context of when they happened. Again, this was weeks before his re-election at a time he was running on among other things his success in Libya and his strategy such as it were in the larger ME. Of course we all knew it was a lie but most of the country didn't and still doesn't thanks to the msm.
If we are ever going to really start turning things around we need to be able to point to concrete examples of how Obama has lied and used the msm to carry his water. People need to see this stuff if for no other reason than to begin to understand what some of us have known for years.
Obama is a dishonest prick and his lies have put this country in great peril. I'm willing to be that the reason Stevens was in Benghazi was to deal with arms shipment issues and the reason his security was so light was because this was a mission Obama was eager to hide from the American people. About time this kind of shit was brought to light and it takes nothing away from the outrage over the people sacrificed to Obama's insane policies.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 03:04 PM (g1DWB)
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I don't care if the LIV don't give a crap about this - the President of the U.S.and his minions (including Shrillary) lied about the death of Americans in order to save face and pretend their stupid foreign policy strategy was working.Even if it doesn't sway a single voter,I'm glad Gowdy and others are staying on this.
Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2015 03:05 PM (pWeX5)
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Who has killed more people in Waco - bikers or the govt?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 18, 2015 03:05 PM (nqiq9)
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Obama voters are either stupid or corrupt.
The "truth" about Benghazi matters not one wit as the former don't care and the latter have been celebrating since November 2012 that Obama was able to cover it up until after the election so that's it's "dude that happened 2 years ago" now.
The "truth" about Benghazi matters not one wit as the former don't care and the latter have been celebrating since November 2012 that Obama was able to cover it up until after the election so that's it's "dude that happened 2 years ago" now.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at May 18, 2015 03:05 PM (r1DzX)
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I cant even follow this story anymore, as like most sane people I knew on Sept 12 that the entire Obama regime spin was a morally corrupt and managerially incompetent Shit Show from top to bottom.
Additional reinforcement to that effect doesn't even register with me these days, especially since nothing of consequence will ever happen to Clinton or Obama or Rice etc because of it. Nothing. By 2016, even mentioning Benghazi will get the MSM to yelling in unison, "swiftboating, swiftboating."
Additional reinforcement to that effect doesn't even register with me these days, especially since nothing of consequence will ever happen to Clinton or Obama or Rice etc because of it. Nothing. By 2016, even mentioning Benghazi will get the MSM to yelling in unison, "swiftboating, swiftboating."
Posted by: MikeD at May 18, 2015 03:07 PM (uKJIC)
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Something about Hillary running for president, maybe?
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (ecDRv)
Well, maybe, I guess. But why is any of this more damning than her saying, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" I fail to see what value a new report confirming what we already know to be true - that politicians in general and Democrats in particular are liars and only self-interested - brings, given that the media has already buried this story. They are not going to dig it up again for the LIV's to re-consider, and we already know all of this.
Posted by: flounder at May 18, 2015 02:56 PM (ecDRv)
Well, maybe, I guess. But why is any of this more damning than her saying, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" I fail to see what value a new report confirming what we already know to be true - that politicians in general and Democrats in particular are liars and only self-interested - brings, given that the media has already buried this story. They are not going to dig it up again for the LIV's to re-consider, and we already know all of this.
Posted by: Sambo at May 18, 2015 03:09 PM (sPp6M)
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JackStraw, it makes no sense to argue that low-profile security (obviously completely inappropriate in Benghazi) was to hide things from *Americans* at home. An ambassador's movements and security do not make the papers, even if "the papers" were real news any more. It would be - was - obviously insane and contrary to all standard practice for years in comparable situations (I spent several years in a worse one) to go "lo-pro" witha chief of mission.
An appropriate security detail would not have alerted anyone to anything, much less a putative covert op. Anyway, that's a side-point, but you sort of inverted logic there.
As to your wider point about the press - basically about accountability - of course I couldn't agree more.
But I don't see the slightest chance of any of that happening. That is, the press becoming what it should be, or - critical - the electorate that might care changing. Trying to imagine an "educated", coastal, urban Obama voter (or other tribal Dem) voting differently, or even caring. Can't do it (like all of us limited to my sample population .... but wow .... not a flicker of citizenship or seriousness to be found in a single person I know).
What might be the special case of Hillary, as the worst major party candidate ever, in terms of scandalous history, probably makes this stuff worth doing now. In that sense covert Syria ops might be helpful. Might be the 10,000-lb safe that (finally) breaks the camel's back. Might.
JackStraw, it makes no sense to argue that low-profile security (obviously completely inappropriate in Benghazi) was to hide things from *Americans* at home. An ambassador's movements and security do not make the papers, even if "the papers" were real news any more. It would be - was - obviously insane and contrary to all standard practice for years in comparable situations (I spent several years in a worse one) to go "lo-pro" witha chief of mission.
An appropriate security detail would not have alerted anyone to anything, much less a putative covert op. Anyway, that's a side-point, but you sort of inverted logic there.
As to your wider point about the press - basically about accountability - of course I couldn't agree more.
But I don't see the slightest chance of any of that happening. That is, the press becoming what it should be, or - critical - the electorate that might care changing. Trying to imagine an "educated", coastal, urban Obama voter (or other tribal Dem) voting differently, or even caring. Can't do it (like all of us limited to my sample population .... but wow .... not a flicker of citizenship or seriousness to be found in a single person I know).
What might be the special case of Hillary, as the worst major party candidate ever, in terms of scandalous history, probably makes this stuff worth doing now. In that sense covert Syria ops might be helpful. Might be the 10,000-lb safe that (finally) breaks the camel's back. Might.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 03:17 PM (afQnV)
494
Are Susan and Condoleezza related?
Posted by: Dirty Randy at May 18, 2015 03:18 PM (jjaLl)
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Damn! You guy are too fast for me. But you got one thing wrong--Ben Ghazi was the ACTOR in the widely viewed video about Mo (pieces be upon him). Just a coinkydink that our gubmint was selling Libyan weapons to Syrian insurgents thru Turkey.
Got that straight? Now I can go back to not answering questions from my friends in the press corpse.
Signed,
The Queen, Shrillary of Chapped Ass
Got that straight? Now I can go back to not answering questions from my friends in the press corpse.
Signed,
The Queen, Shrillary of Chapped Ass
Posted by: Carol at May 18, 2015 03:21 PM (iLb58)
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You put that headline in read. As though it will mean something. Hah. I'm sure Boehner/McConnell will be all over it. Yeah.
Posted by: Dave at May 18, 2015 03:26 PM (fxMIa)
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But I don't see the slightest chance of any of that happening. That is, the press becoming what it should be, or - critical - the electorate that might care changing. Trying to imagine an "educated", coastal, urban Obama voter (or other tribal Dem) voting differently, or even caring. Can't do it (like all of us limited to my sample population .... but wow .... not a flicker of citizenship or seriousness to be found in a single person I know).
Then we might as well give up. The fact that four Americans were killed in Benghazi has been know since the day after the attack. The only thing that has ever been in doubt was why, why was he there and why was he killed.
If you think those things are tangential or will never get through then we might as well all pack up and call it a day. I remain hopeful that if we can force the truth to the surface it will be very destructive to the left. Obama may skate, he always does, but Hillary is no Obama when it comes to politics and the more we can put her on the defensive the better. She and members of her team still have to come before Congress to testify.
She lied. Everyone on Team Obama lied. And those lies contributed to the death of 4 Americans, help propagate weapons to terrorists and further eroded our position in the world. I believe in America this is still an important thing to bring to light.
Then we might as well give up. The fact that four Americans were killed in Benghazi has been know since the day after the attack. The only thing that has ever been in doubt was why, why was he there and why was he killed.
If you think those things are tangential or will never get through then we might as well all pack up and call it a day. I remain hopeful that if we can force the truth to the surface it will be very destructive to the left. Obama may skate, he always does, but Hillary is no Obama when it comes to politics and the more we can put her on the defensive the better. She and members of her team still have to come before Congress to testify.
She lied. Everyone on Team Obama lied. And those lies contributed to the death of 4 Americans, help propagate weapons to terrorists and further eroded our position in the world. I believe in America this is still an important thing to bring to light.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 18, 2015 03:28 PM (g1DWB)
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Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2015 03:03 PM (afQnV)
I know this thread is dead, but I just saw this -- I don't know why you think I'm being condescending, I don't even think we're arguing on anything. I'm just pointing out what was being reported at the time -- that the US and our gulf allies were helping the rebels to get rid of Assad during the "arab spring".
My only point was that the Saudis were not going behind our back. They were vetting (and arming) the groups that we were providing "non lethal aid" to. We were working WITH them on this.
I know this thread is dead, but I just saw this -- I don't know why you think I'm being condescending, I don't even think we're arguing on anything. I'm just pointing out what was being reported at the time -- that the US and our gulf allies were helping the rebels to get rid of Assad during the "arab spring".
My only point was that the Saudis were not going behind our back. They were vetting (and arming) the groups that we were providing "non lethal aid" to. We were working WITH them on this.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 18, 2015 03:30 PM (AkOaV)
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Madeleine Albright gave this commencement speech at Tufts University
We see it in the widening gap between rich and poor, and the growing dangers to the environmental health of our planet.
We see how technology has given new destructive tools to groups who use religion as a license to murder, as if God's commandment were "thou shalt kill."
And we see how many of the assumptions of my generation, and your parents' generation, about the 21st century have been proven wrong.
To put it another way: the world's a mess. That is a diplomatic term of art.
I am sorry, but it is true.
... Albright is obviously a racist
We see it in the widening gap between rich and poor, and the growing dangers to the environmental health of our planet.
We see how technology has given new destructive tools to groups who use religion as a license to murder, as if God's commandment were "thou shalt kill."
And we see how many of the assumptions of my generation, and your parents' generation, about the 21st century have been proven wrong.
To put it another way: the world's a mess. That is a diplomatic term of art.
I am sorry, but it is true.
... Albright is obviously a racist
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at May 18, 2015 03:34 PM (e8kgV)
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Posted by: Bruce J. at May 18, 2015 03:36 PM (iQIUe)
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I'm sure this will be noted in the Barack Obama Presidential Liebarry in Chiraq. One of PBO's best lies.
Posted by: TheresaD at May 18, 2015 03:47 PM (Ez5Cr)
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As a former "I know everything to know about Benghazi because i read it in the British Press within 48 hours" savant...this is about freaking time. Everyone ate their words, lapped them up. With no thought process of, uh, it was NINE ELEVEN anniversary and, uh, you don't have shoulder fired missiles at spontaneous events, even in Libya.
This lying of the WH totally and completely fitted all the puzzles into place of my distrust of anything and every single word from this administration.
I am having what I call a "Pit Bull Monday" in the event anyone cares. My son's sweet doggie is all that lies between me and rage overflowing (i speak softly like a child is in the room vs Duchess of Alba Cray-Cray that has been me for several months of real estate transactions and a cross-country move). xoxo and pfft
This lying of the WH totally and completely fitted all the puzzles into place of my distrust of anything and every single word from this administration.
I am having what I call a "Pit Bull Monday" in the event anyone cares. My son's sweet doggie is all that lies between me and rage overflowing (i speak softly like a child is in the room vs Duchess of Alba Cray-Cray that has been me for several months of real estate transactions and a cross-country move). xoxo and pfft
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at May 18, 2015 05:01 PM (FCPu0)
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Oh, yeah, and that CIA guy? Moron? Moran? interviewed by Brett Baier the other day..the guy who wrote a book...well, when asked about gun running operations by CIA in Libya he paused and pointedly said (from my demented memory these days) some dodge game of "it could have been done but we were not doing it" yada. In other words, they knew about it but did not touch the goods?
I have not paid a lot of attention for months on anything but my own personal crazy and craving for normal, but even I caught that wordsmithing.
I have not paid a lot of attention for months on anything but my own personal crazy and craving for normal, but even I caught that wordsmithing.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at May 18, 2015 05:05 PM (FCPu0)
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So what if he lies. He can come out saying he did it to keep us from invading Libya and he'll be cheered by the isolationists.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at May 18, 2015 06:25 PM (8rRE+)
Posted by: dissent555 at May 18, 2015 06:27 PM (yR6A1)
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1. Depose our ally
2. Arm and install Al Qaeda militias
3. Watch said Al Qaeda militias sell our arms to Syrian militias soon to be known as ISIS
4. Send ambassador to buy back our arms from terrorist groups
5. Leave ambassador and his security detail to die
6. ???
7. Profit!!!
2. Arm and install Al Qaeda militias
3. Watch said Al Qaeda militias sell our arms to Syrian militias soon to be known as ISIS
4. Send ambassador to buy back our arms from terrorist groups
5. Leave ambassador and his security detail to die
6. ???
7. Profit!!!
Posted by: Cheese at May 18, 2015 06:53 PM (Tt5Gn)
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The damn shame was how blatant Obama and hitlery were about it, and fools, morons, village idjits let them get away with it. May they burn with them in hell.
Posted by: ron n. at May 18, 2015 11:25 PM (YVQn/)
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