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Leftism is Just Religion for the Godless, Continued
If you've read Marx, and I've read him slightly, you'll notice that his ranting sounds a lot like an angry, bitter failure ranting at God, but, being an atheist, he can't rant at God.
So instead he rants at something he calls Society (specifically, German society), a being with all the supernatural power that one usually attributes to God, that is, the power to decide one's fate, to reward one with heaven, or to punish one with hell. Two great articles today on this. First, from Mollie Ziegler Hemingway (she writes out her middle name today): The Left's Theodicy of the Federal Government.Whenever and wherever evil occurs in the world, questions of “theodicy” arise among some religious adherents. Theodicy attempts to defend God's goodness and omnipotence in light of the existence of evil. Why do bad things happen to good people, the question goes. (To which a Lutheran might reply, "Trick question! There are no good people!") There are various schools of thought and debate, rekindled with every hurricane, tsunami, earthquake, act of terror and mass shooting. ...And via Instapundit, Daniel Hannan discusses the failure of the left's Church Lady approach to public policy.
But what if journalists --some of whom just yesterday were admitting they know "close to zero" Christians-- don't have a religious or even non-political vocabulary for use in such tragedies? Perhaps we politicize everything in part because we have lost any understanding of the world as fallen and out of our control...
So instead of contemplating how fleeting and out of our control life can be, we instead begin with the question, "Why do bad things happen to good administrations?" ("Trick question!" the conservative or libertarian might respond. "There are no good administrations!") The theodicy of federal government requires an explanation that defends the goodness of government control or subsidies into the given sphere. So just as some religious groups might blame a weather event on insufficient fealty to the relevant god, some progressives blame -- before the National Transportation Safety Board has even shown up on site to investigate the cause of a crash -- insufficient fealty, sacrifice and offerings to the relevant god of federal government.
The Left's error was its usual one: to assume a moral superiority, to treat conservatism as a kind of mental disorder, to define the campaign as a test of voters’ “compassion”. As Ed Miliband kept putting it, "This election is about values”. Labour’s core vote lapped it up: plenty of Leftists define their ideology by whom they loathe. But others found it off-putting. In a column shortly before polling day, the actor Tom Conti explained why he had switched sides. "Labour, I realised, was built on hatred". ...Re: the "Shy Tory" syndrome, wherein conservative leaning voters don't express their real views to pollsters, because of the massive public relations smear against them:
I've long called these people Religious Maniacs because, of course, they are. I always point out that you don't need a god to be religious maniac; you just need a dogma and a Devil. A friend of mine once said that, a long time ago: That the only thing a religion really needed was a Devil to hate. I don't know if he came up with that himself, or got it from Eric Hoffer or something. Actually, my friends got most of their witticisms from Amazon Women on the Moon. Maybe he got it from there.
But they don't just feel intimidated; they feel insulted. When Leftists attack the Tories, they’re not just having a go at 300 MPs, or 100,000 party members: they're scorning everyone who has contemplated supporting the party... When you adopt a bullying tone, you find that 1) voters don’t like it; 2) you solidify the other side’s core support; and 3) some people hide their voting intentions.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:02 PM (r2TIL)
Posted by: kj at May 13, 2015 07:03 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:03 PM (r2TIL)
Posted by: engles at May 13, 2015 07:04 PM (6yehy)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 13, 2015 07:04 PM (KCxzN)
"Leftism is an ideology like Islam is a religion. Indeed, Leftism is more of a religion than ideology and Islam is more of an ideology than a religion."
-- Shih Tzu
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:05 PM (sGw0h)
Ladies running up and down the aisles while speaking in tongues are writing in to say "Uh, guys, tone it down.".
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:07 PM (MYCIw)
Leftism and Islam have many things in common; namely: totalitarianism, absolute adherence, and no tolerance for Other.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:07 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at May 13, 2015 07:08 PM (1brdf)
A lot of half-baked and untried theory that a lot of idiots jumped whole-hog into. Big shock it's never worked, huh? But there's still plenty of morons whose faith remains unshaken.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 07:08 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: jmel at May 13, 2015 07:08 PM (LcZ6L)
Posted by: Bill Nye the Science! guy at May 13, 2015 07:08 PM (wjzWP)
They resort to appeals to authority (because their Pope is infallible), concensus (all right (un)thinking "good" people), and because we'll "ALL GO TO HELL!" becaues of global warming.
Just like the Italian Inquisition attacked Galileo when he said that the Earth revolved around the Sun.
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:10 PM (r2TIL)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2015 07:11 PM (BXVvA)
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:11 PM (r2TIL)
Posted by: rd
Everybody expects the Italian Inquisition. Fuckin' amateurs.
Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at May 13, 2015 07:11 PM (wjzWP)
I believe I'll have a Bourbon. *hic!*
Jim
Drunk New Dawn
Galveshton, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 13, 2015 07:11 PM (RzZOc)
Leftism is just as bad or even worse than Islam in their blasphemy laws.
Every day the Left is inventing new rules for anti-blasphemy for what we can and cannot say, or even think.
If you don't follow enough vaginas on Twitter, that's an insult to the Profit Marx.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:12 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at May 13, 2015 07:13 PM (1brdf)
I believe I'll have a Bourbon. *hic!*
Jim
Drunk New Dawn
Galveshton, TX
Posted by: Jim
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: John Boehner at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (wjzWP)
I remember years ago when the Sandinistas first allowed free elections in Nicaragua, all the polls were predicting a huge margin of victory for the ruling regine, and the international left was jizzing all over itself in anticipation. Then the elections were actually held and... the Sandies were routed pretty much everywhere.
You can see why, though. After nearly 20 years in a totalitarian prison camp of a country, no Nicaraguan is going to voice an honest opinion if it goes against the wishes of his jailers.
And the butthurt of the left was extreme, and their tears were sweet.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (I8YZX)
/and now the Pope has gotten on board with that. It's hard to be a Catholic sometimes.
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (HPAiU)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (BXVvA)
Posted by: Anonymous at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:16 PM (sGw0h)
they want to actually jail or kill the disbelievers among them .
they threaten everyone not like them.
they riot and destroy when they don't get their way.
they even now riot when they lose an election.
Posted by: comrade willow at May 13, 2015 07:16 PM (nqBYe)
http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2015/05/fine-lines-or-battle-lines.html
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:17 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 07:18 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2015 07:18 PM (/HX7u)
But see, here's the thing...
Liberals are the most racist people on the planet. They see the religiosity of black America as proof of their inferiority.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:18 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: PiperPaul at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (vhm6I)
Posted by: Ma Gaia at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (BXVvA)
wow this place is a Hard Rock Cafe franchise in 1999...dead
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (cv6Ng)
I feel like that must have been what it was like when the Democrat party went from supporting jim crow to calling Republicans "racist."
I don't know how they don't get whiplash changing their positions so quickly, brazenly and dishonestly.
I mean, I do know -- (as I've theorized before, they think they're "on the inside" and they're the smart ones and we're a bunch of stupid inbred hicks, but...)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: engles
yep. and when engels died he left his millions to marx's daughters. and they took it. none of them believed a word they said.
Posted by: other stuff Jesus said at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (n5fTN)
Sad Trombone for Nip Sip.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (cv6Ng)
I wonder if the racist will offer up an apology?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 07:21 PM (7RVP6)
A) They know that they're not going to be called out
B) They don't actually believe anything the say. They just want power.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:21 PM (MYCIw)
and they act like they cant understand how anyone could ever have been for the war. Even though thats a position they largely held 2 or 3 years earlier.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM (AkOaV)
Sad Trombone for Nip Sip.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (cv6Ng)
lol
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM (wMIqV)
they want to actually jail or kill the disbelievers among them .
they threaten everyone not like them.
they riot and destroy when they don't get their way.
they even now riot when they lose an election.
Posted by: comrade willow
you forgot the gay sex
Posted by: other stuff Jesus said at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM (n5fTN)
well, I mean the voters.
I have an aunt, for example, who is a raging liberal.
Who seems to change positions on a dime (like the rest of the dem party) and then act like anyone who holds the position she held as of 3 months ago is so extremist, crazy, racist, sexist, etc. that only some kind of mental retardation could explain how they could hold such a position.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:23 PM (AkOaV)
One Truth. One Standard. One Instruction for living. We even tell time by his Son.
So very little is asked for in return. Just belief in Truth. All are equal in His Eyes. And our form of government was established by His Light and served us all well until the agents of darkness rose up to defy His Truth.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 07:23 PM (0HooB)
for example, I'm an atheist/agnostic.
I don't agree with your position on god.
But I understand and accept it and don't judge you or feel superior or anything else for my differing beliefs..
Unlike liberals, who would have a string of insults a mile long to throw at you for saying such a thing.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:25 PM (AkOaV)
Sad Trombone for Nip Sip.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at May 13, 2015 07:20 PM (cv6Ng) lol
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM (sdi6R)
Bwwwaaaahhhh. Racist tool
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 13, 2015 07:25 PM (Vm8WO)
maybe he was giving himself a "rough ride" in solidarity with Freddie Gray?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:26 PM (AkOaV)
And, yes, the toxicity of the UK Left drove many to become Shy Tories.
The Left is even more toxic in the US. Guess what might happen in 2016?
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at May 13, 2015 07:26 PM (2t7UH)
Yet another reason I return again and again to this smart military blog.
If I could give you one thing from my experience (which includes personal correspondence from Tim Leary, Fred Exley, Wm. F. Buckley, Jr., the godfather of American Conservatism, a really high quality philosophy degree, and intimate experiences making actual Jews (except for her favored technology), it would be this: they want to kill babies?
They are wrong about everything else, most likely. This does not mean you can kill them without a sentence. But do not trust them. They have filters/blinders/paid official censors.
Posted by: Steve White, drinker of the Columbia Valley meritage at May 13, 2015 07:26 PM (ZTc8k)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the train engineer is really going to need that lawyer.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 07:26 PM (51GKk)
Oh, the voters are just idiots who hold whatever position the party says because they believe it's the "right" thing since dems are always right about everything.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:27 PM (MYCIw)
This.
I'm nearly 60 years old, and the longer I live, the more confirmation of this I see.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 07:27 PM (I8YZX)
Is his name Schettino?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:27 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 07:27 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: other stuff Jesus said at May 13, 2015 07:22 PM
Shouldn't it be "teh gai buttseks" according to the style guide?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 13, 2015 07:27 PM (Vm8WO)
That doesn't matter. Blacks (and Jews) will continue to vote left.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 07:28 PM (W5DcG)
I suppose. But there must be some kind of cognitive dissidence going on, no?
I mean, they must remember that they "believed" THAT EXACT SAME THING as of a few months/ years ago, right?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:28 PM (AkOaV)
Succinctly beautimous.
Posted by: LizLem, servant of the cross (deal with it ISIS) at May 13, 2015 07:28 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2015 07:28 PM (BXVvA)
Rorty didn't want to think, so he declared that there was no need to think, there is no truth.
The left today doesn't want to think, so it declares there is no need to think, it already has the truth.
Same result in either case, no thinking.
Posted by: bjk at May 13, 2015 07:29 PM (x2rNW)
Engineer lawyered up for damage control. He's fully aware he's in deep shit and this is proactive on his part.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2015 07:29 PM (jeCnD)
You're just a POS rock,orbiting a POS star in a backwater galaxy. I'm about to fc*k you up.
Posted by: Andromeda at May 13, 2015 07:29 PM (2X6FF)
Posted by: wooga at May 13, 2015 07:29 PM (QcJ+D)
guilty or no, he was smart to get a lawyer.
Even if it was some kind of mechanical / electrical error and not at all his fault, which, uh, seems unlikely.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (AkOaV)
I honestly don't know. I think some of them are convinced by flashy buzzwords and some of them just convince themselves that they've "evolved".
And of course some of them know they're lying liars who lie, but don't care because it's for a "good cause".
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (MYCIw)
Many people treat their tribe, their party, their sports team, or their faith pretty much all the same.
The thing about Marxism/atheism (not the same but related in this way) is that they affirmatively deny faith in the process of otherwise duplicating it.
That does kind of explain why we make huge lists of contradictions for the left - one of their founding principles is a contradiction, so accepting contradictions is necessary.
Not that contradictions are unique to the left, but the scale of them can be impressive. Multiculturalism vs the relative treatment of religions and cultures (Christianity and the West), SCIENCE! vs the actual scientific process (see "Post-Normal Science"), ad nauseam.
A lot of people who go to church can't really explain their faith in detail, but they know the basics and the slogans, just like political arguments on Twitter.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (bLnSU)
Obviously they haven't called me.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (1sJza)
I suppose.
Maybe I just have a hard time believing they're THAT stupid.
but as someone once said (probably, I doubt I just made this up) "its as dangerous if not moreso to overestimate your opponent then it is to underestimate your opponent"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:31 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (wjzWP)
Posted by: geraldine ferraro at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (kivUY)
I know.
I don't begrudge atheists, since I was one, then an agnostic, and now a Christian. I've been there. I have many as friends (even pixelated ones like Ace) and I keep my mouth shut unless they axe me about my faith.
Mostly outside of here.
It's not my job to try to convert anyone: that's left up to the individual, IMHO. However, my journey began with the acknowledgement of absolutes. There are many such things, and just seeing them opened a big door for me. Consistency is good. Chaos, not so much.
My point is, truths can be seen and recognized without any type of religiosity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (0HooB)
yes they did.
it's been making the rounds.
started as a joke, but they've actually raised some money haha.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (AkOaV)
I apologize for the OT but this beyond belief. Obama has had the State
Dept file a human rights violation with the UN AGAINST the US for
police brutality and other racially charged offenses. Levin just
dropped this one.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the positive side, that will turn the officers against the US government and military when the Great American Purging arrives before the next election.
So... positive news?
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (HPAiU)
Posted by: Henry Silva at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (0HooB)
Well said.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (AkOaV)
And, worlds away.
Literally an entirely opposite viewpoint to the atheistic despair so prevalent, may I offer:
Mary Grabar
Carolyn Glick.
Posted by: Steve White, drinker of the Columbia Valley meritage at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (ZTc8k)
started as a joke, but they've actually raised some money haha.
Fools and their money...
but what I hate is that gofundme still gets a piece of the action
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (sGw0h)
Is the engineer at least fat? I had "fatass, inept union slug" in the pool.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (wjzWP)
nope.......and he has a business degree
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (0O7c5)
True.
And what happened to their principled stance against hosting gofundmes to help people pay legal fees?
Isn't that what this is?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:34 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (0O7c5)
Ooh me too!
Does that mean I can drive a choo choo train?
Looks fun.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:34 PM (AkOaV)
Devil made him say that.
Posted by: Daybrother at May 13, 2015 07:34 PM (x0dEp)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at May 13, 2015 07:34 PM (2mJMN)
Yay, looks like I'm still in the running with my "They all drive too fast to make Amtrak look better" bet.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:35 PM (MYCIw)
Liberals are the most racist people on the planet. They see the religiosity of black America as proof of their inferiority.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:18 PM (MYCIw)
I know. And I know black will continue to vote Dem. I just want to beat liberals over the head with it.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 13, 2015 07:35 PM (1Y+hH)
The Dark Shadows series binge just started on the new over-the-air channel Decades, if you have it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:36 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Groucho at May 13, 2015 07:36 PM (BXVvA)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at May 13, 2015 07:36 PM (UNFxP)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the train engineer is really going to need that lawyer.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 07:26 PM (51GKk)
I mentioned in the last thread that I heard an announcer on the radio news say, "The engineer has lawyered up."
Not a talk host or a caller. Not a comedian. An actual news announcer.
I thought it was interesting. It's not often that you get to see the exact moment when a colloquialism becomes acceptable standard usage.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:36 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 07:33 PM (0O7c5)
Got jammed up on $$$ and mph's.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (48QDY)
I'm sure the "speed limits" are well below the actual limit that the trains and tracks can handle (especially in cities, where neighbors complaining about the noise and other political considerations come in to play with setting speed limits), but TWICE the limit?
I mean come on.
Plus, pulling the e-brake in the middle of a high speed turn?
Has he not seen Fast and Furious?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (AkOaV)
If liberalism were defined as a religion/cult, which it should be, and seperation of Church and State were applied to them, a lot of problems with government in this country would be solved.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (3gna+)
G.K. Chesterton, 1933
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 07:30 PM (1sJza)
Chesterton was absolutely right, and a related quote I've seen in some places is that once you banish religion, you don't believe in nothing, you become capable of believing anything.
As Ace noted in a great post a long time ago, the psychiatric pioneer Jung did a lot of work regarding magical thinking, and found that it was ubiquitous - everyone did it, regardless of culture, around the world. The only difference was that organized religion built a box around it, and defined places where it was allowed and places where it wasn't. Once you limit the magical thinking, you enable rational thinking to a certain in everything outside the box. By doing away with the limit on magical thinking, the Left has essentially rendered itself incapable of rational thinking. They now live in a demon-haunted world where everything that goes wrong is caused by sorcerers and witches.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (HalrA)
Even an advsory system that monitors the speed and location and warns if they are going too fast?
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (r2TIL)
And we shall name him Emmanuel Goldstein.
Amen.
Posted by: The Atheist Statists League at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (1CroS)
Obama filing a Human Rights violation against himself. Wonderful, and I am the one that is nuts.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (2X6FF)
They don't care.
Get a few drinks in a liberal, pretend to be on their side, and bring up race.
Listen to them unload.
They think black people are stupid, incompetent, child like, and unable to care for themselves. And they think **everyone** knows and believes that. Thus, the only reason to be against welfare is if you hate black people and want them to die.
But bring that up when they're sober and you're a super duper horrific racist who should get excommunicated from society.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:38 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (r2TIL)
WE NEED MOAR INVESTMENT.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:39 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (wjzWP)
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My actual retort about the engineer lawyering up was going to be that it's the union that's lawyering up. The engineer is just the main person of interest.
Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2015 07:39 PM (/HX7u)
Plus, pulling the e-brake in the middle of a high speed turn? "
Isn't that exactly what the guy in Spain did?
His defense was that he didn't realize he was going so fast (yeah, sure) and then panicked when he remembered the upcoming turn and tried to brake.
I imagine it could be something similar here. Guy was going fast fast fast, like always, and somehow forgot that pesky turn until it was too late.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 07:39 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2015 07:39 PM (go5uR)
I have proved this in my paper [not available online].
Aesthetic grounds are formally equivalent to inductive arguments when there is insufficient evidence to support the truth of the premises.
Formally, this is the model rational people follow in everyday life. It is the form that has allowed or produced the survival of tool-using rational bipeds.
We do not not any longer need to run down prey. (We have Border Collies, for example. Fishing lines.)
Ultimately, and you can take this to the bank, or leave it to your heirs, truths depend on truths outside your fragestellung.
Posted by: Steve White, drinker of the Columbia Valley meritage at May 13, 2015 07:40 PM (ZTc8k)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:28 PM (AkOaV)
Actually, *no* they *don't*. Ask Merovign or zombie. Reading Whittaker Chambers book was a huge eye-opener to me. That ability to *completely* change is what makes them go crazy if they weren't already. There is no cognitive dissonance for those who are true believers because they have *made* themselves mentally ill. That and the constant inter-group purges are apparently defining features of the Statists, no matter what they may be calling themselves at the moment.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:40 PM (GDulk)
I believe the Acela trains have all of that.
At least according to my train sim program.
But the engineers ultimately control the speeds.
Now the new hotness is being pissed at Amtrak hasn't installed a system to force trains to slow down / stop if they're going too fast in any section of track.
Like what the fuck. You're paying an engineer 6 figures to push a throttle forward and backwards. If he can't manage that without accidentally going twice the limit around a turn, I don't know what else to say.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (48QDY)
oh!
Today I saw a replica of the Back To The Future car in Wakefield, Massachusetts. It pulled into the high school; something must've been going on there.
It had the lightning rod on it and everything.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (BXVvA)
Posted by: hurricane at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (U2plr)
I mean I guess.
That should be a certifiable mental illness though if that's the case. DSM V needs to add "statism" I guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:42 PM (AkOaV)
My point is, truths can be seen and recognized without any type of religiosity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (0HooB)
Both Chaos and Order in their absolute form are destructive to life and society. Chaos in its absolute form is a Barbarian army at the gates. Order in its absolute form is Stalin or Hitler, and a bunch of credentialed ivory tower types running every aspect of life. Balance is what makes things work.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 07:42 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: president o'bumbles at May 13, 2015 07:43 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 13, 2015 07:37 PM (2X6FF)
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Nope. What Dear Leader just did was make the final separation of himself from "Americans". He's now the "citizen" president.
Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2015 07:43 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Zombie Jerry Garcia at May 13, 2015 07:43 PM (BXVvA)
Well any idiot knows its better to hit a turn with no brakes then to hit a turn with brakes.
But yeah, I suppose he could have panicked.
But come on. He has ONE JOB. Pushing a throttle.
How much mental energy can that really take?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 07:44 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: Steve White, drinker of the Columbia Valley meritage at May 13, 2015 07:44 PM (ZTc8k)
This is spot on.
The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not
Eric Hoffer
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2015 07:44 PM (V+kmg)
I apologize for the OT but this beyond belief. Obama has had the State
Dept file a human rights violation with the UN AGAINST the US for
police brutality and other racially charged offenses. Levin just
dropped this one.
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On the positive side, that will turn the officers against the US government and military when the Great American Purging arrives before the next election.
So... positive news?
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at May 13, 2015 07:32 PM (HPAiU)
They may not want to support the Democrat Reich,
But if they want to get paid,
If they want their pension,
And IF they do not want to be thrown in jail with the thugs they arrested,
Most will support the Democrat Socialist Republic of Amerika.
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:45 PM (r2TIL)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:31 PM (AkOaV)
Not stupid, actually. Dumb. There's a difference, and not just in quantity of IQ points.
Ultimately, everybody's dumb. Smart people are dumb, stupid people are dumb, tall people, short people, skinny people, fat people, and on and on.
Stupid is like can't do math or learn to read or put the square peg in the square hole consistently.
Dumb is falls for a convincing line, forgets to do their homework when they're in a hurry, lets a pushy jerk have their way because they're tired of arguing, and so on.
Everybody's dumb, sometimes. Usually it's the "get tired" or "don't do your homework" variety, so people vote for who their family or friends vote for, or yell team slogans when they don't really know or care about the team, or go to church because their family goes to church and doesn't really think about it otherwise.
Sometimes, when it's like "what fast food are we having," dumb isn't even that bad.
Sometimes it's horrifying, as in "hey that ISIS recruiting drive is pretty convincing, they sound like they're getting their act together."
I suspect in the latter case even the "dumb" ones have a significant amount of bloodlust in the equation.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2015 07:45 PM (bLnSU)
Yes, though that will never happen. The scary thing is, many of them *chose* this. They decided "I reject your reality and insert my own" wasn't a joke but a way of life. And has been noted, once they start following someone *that* person now controls their reality.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:46 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 13, 2015 07:46 PM (Sd++4)
Posted by: Daybrother at May 13, 2015 07:46 PM (x0dEp)
But if they want to get paid,
If they want their pension,
And IF they do not want to be thrown in jail with the thugs they arrested,
Most will support the Democrat Socialist Republic of Amerika.
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:45 PM (r2TIL)
And that's how evil wins. Because people get coerced into it as the path of least resistance.
The only thing we can do about it is keep calling it like it is as it happens, and hope people get snapped out of their trance and see exactly what it is they're going along with.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 07:47 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 07:47 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: @votermom at May 13, 2015 07:47 PM (cbfNE)
Back. And with the proper hash.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Snake Plissken at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (Sd++4)
The only thing we can do about it is keep calling it like it is as it happens, and hope people get snapped out of their trance and see exactly what it is they're going along with.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 07:47 PM (HalrA)/i]
I call attention once again to my link at #27.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (sdi6R)
I read somewhere that anger and hatred makes people stupid. As in, a rage-fit will actually cost points on an IQ test.
On the one hand, we have people like Charles Murray who can make an argument tangential to race and can back it all up with data. On the other hand we have haters. Charles C Johnson - frankly - needs help.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (J0IP0)
And in Satin.
This, Horde, is how it's done.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Null at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:50 PM (48QDY)
Boy, he's got that right. Same for our leftards. I get sick of people assuming I am a lefty and they say the most hateful things to me and when I say I am conservative or switch it around on them, they freak out.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (BXVvA)
I bet someone could build an Android or I-phone app that could warn you of speed problems. I am really surprised the Engineers do not have one.
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (r2TIL)
Zombie Cats From Mars
The story centers on Billy, an effeminate fan of vintage science fiction action thrillers. His only friend is Cameron, a nerdy film buff who tries to boost his confidence whenever he can. After seeing a UFO land, Billy retreats into his head, imagining that aliens are taking over the town. Cameron is skeptical, as is the rest of the town. Meanwhile, people are starting to die. First, the reclusive cat lady, Percis, is discovered mutilated by Lester, the churchgoing husband of Carolyn, Percis's depressed caretaker. Random deaths soon follow, first a jogger, and then a janitor at the Carbonics Warehouse. A pair of news reporters share this information with the public while the Detective and his Chief try to solve the killings. Meanwhile, the killings continue. Billy, wrapped up in a world of fiction, discovers a story in which Martian Cats land on Earth and inflict horror upon the town. Confident that the killings are the result of the UFO delivering alien cats, he sets off on his own superhero mission to save the town.
Anyone see this??
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (sGw0h)
According to semi-official state news agency Fars, Zolnour said that, "the Noble Koran permits the Islamic Republic of Iran to destroy Israel." He added that, "Even if Iran gives up its nuclear program, it will not weaken this country's determination to destroy Israel."
Posted by: Socrates at May 13, 2015 07:52 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Maty Clottenstone from Idiotsboro, USSR at May 13, 2015 07:52 PM (nRiGi)
last nights' could have been an snl skit.
this one is really easy though
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:52 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 07:53 PM (wMIqV)
Very true, other people don't seem to enter into their calculations so they don't even consider those who *agree* with them and that *they* may have the same goal. To paraphrase someone "Are you at the cocktails parties now? No? Then you won't be then either".
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:53 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
Odds were on your side.
See USPS and others.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:53 PM (48QDY)
There are degrees of both. I'm rather glad for the sun rising in the East every morning.
And coffee.
And boobehs.
Unfortunately, both order and chaos can be twisted into something evil, as your examples demonstrate.
From what I know and have seen myself, Christianity is the Ultimate Vulcan Mind Meld. You have a Parent Spirit that imparts its wisdom to you if you're looking to find it. You can also ignore it if you wish. It's no biggie to Him. That's real freedom.
As I age, I find it more advantageous to me to look for The Light to keep from stubbing my toes through life. It really makes things easier to figure out, although not necessarily easier to accomplish.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 07:53 PM (0HooB)
last nights' could have been an snl skit.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:52 PM (AkOaV)
It wasn't funny?
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: @votermom at May 13, 2015 07:47 PM (cbfNE)
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Same as the peoplemonitoring the regional train positioning and speeds. The blame can be spread out on this one. It's why I say that it's not only the engineer lawyering up, but the whole union.
Posted by: Soona at May 13, 2015 07:54 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: jmel at May 13, 2015 07:54 PM (LcZ6L)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 07:54 PM (1sJza)
not really related, but we should start calling our MSM "semi-official state news agencies" when identifying them.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:54 PM (AkOaV)
heh no the scores and answers were horrific.
tonight was easier questions, higher scoring.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 07:55 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2015 07:55 PM (i55o+)
Posted by: Maty Clottenstone from Idiotsboro, USSR at May 13, 2015 07:55 PM (nRiGi)
If I was going to make a Qur'anic argument for the destruction of Israel, I'd make it from sura 17. This is basically a big homily from Deuteronomy and the Ten Commandments. Deuteronomy, as some of our morons will know, makes the argument to Israel that God can and will yank the Holy Land from under it, if Israel defies God.
I don't happen to think that Israeli Jews *are* defying God, but obviously Muslims differ on that.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 07:56 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2015 07:55 PM (i55o+)
I am starting to wonder how much evil needs to be done by a group for the members of that group to qualify as evil. Stupid just doesn't seem to really cover it anymore.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (GDulk)
Oh my God. It's back. I can't believe it.
All this time waiting, it was...
*looks at the sidebar*
*falls on knees and screams to the skies*
You Maniacs!
You fucked it up!
Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
Posted by: Zombie Charlton Heston at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (KUa85)
Yeah. Right. Then the commuters could go smack the engineer up side the head.
Like I said in the previous thread. It's on Twitter. @youhadonejob.
Don't have to steer. Don't have to worry about elevation. Don't have to worry about the guys in the other lane easing over on you.
He had one job. Don't go too fast.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (48QDY)
I would love to attend a service where that was the theme of the sermon.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (wMIqV)
oh!
Today I saw a replica of the Back To The Future car in Wakefield, Massachusetts. It pulled into the high school; something must've been going on there.
It had the lightning rod on it and everything.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 07:41 PM (sGw0h)
Sounds like a guy bought a Delorean realized it was shit and he couldn't sell it so he decided "fuck it I'll just make it into the back to the future car"
And a few years ago I saw the Adam West bat mobile on a trailer going down the interstate.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 07:59 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Null at May 13, 2015 07:49 PM (xjpRj)
And that's always the way of it. They think they can fake their way into being one of the cool kids. The useful idiots are always the first to get the shaft.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 07:59 PM (HalrA)
He had one job. Don't go too fast.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 07:57 PM (48QDY)
I can't help wondering if he was high on drugs, or else looking at nekkid selfies from his girlfriend. Or both.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:40 PM (GDulk)
Well, it might be more accurate to say cognitive dissonance just doesn't register as what it is - it's a sensation, of sorts, it just means something else. Sometimes we jokingly refer to it as "nuance," self-superiority similar to the ability to rapidly stack cups or belch more than 8 letters in a row, except based on being able to hold contradictory ideas in rapid succession.
This pairs into the purported love of novelty of the left. Almost more of new conflict, at least among "progressives," who define themselves as against things. Lots of new things, as it seems, there's always a new crusade to get people fired up.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2015 08:00 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:00 PM (1sJza)
I live in a hippie/poorish part of town.
I have yet to see a car with a "Coexist" sticker stop to push someone out of the ice, help change a tire, or hand a sammich to a homeless person.
It's almost always a car (usually a truck) with a fish on the back.
I think it's fair to say (generally) that lefties measure their own compassion by how devoted to a cause they are, or by how much they want government spending for a cause.
Christians just do it.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 13, 2015 08:00 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Dr Spank, 7:55 PM
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Some are; some not. There are many shades of blue.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (KTXxI)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (oVJmc)
Actually three jobs:
Don't go too Fast
Don't go to Slow
Stop before / after you hit something.
And out West, Elevation Changes are a BIG issue.
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (r2TIL)
Which explains Cass Sunstein's Nudge. The most effective coercion is not to bludgeon because that incites innate, immediate resistance. No, the idea is to induce through a rewards system to "nudge" you into positions and let you "come to your own conclusion" based on risk/penalty/reward.
If you control the reigns of the reward, you can insert a more powerful control mechanism by molding behavior to your own advantage by coercing others to think they came up with the idea of subservience on their own and of free will.
IOW brainwashing through rewards. The boiled frog doesn't even know it's also being fattened up for slaughter.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (1CroS)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the train engineer is white.
...........................
Amtrak obviously needs more diversity.
Posted by: wth - Obergrumpyfuhrer at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: @votermom at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (HalrA)
Hah. We had a dealership in Houston; in the late 1980s I saw a lot of them in the garage at the Galleria. (Of course DeLorean owners will be mall rats.)
Then I guess they ran out of willing buyers (and cocaine), so Houston became the hub for spare DeLorean parts from around the country. If your DeLorean broke down, which it will, Houston's where you sent off to get a replacement part.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 08:02 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 07:59 PM (sdi6R)
That explains it. He was in a rush to get home to the nookie.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:03 PM (48QDY)
They're like Muslims. They're just people, stuck with a bad ideology reinforced by their peers and church and family.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 08:03 PM (AVEe1)
HOWARD FUCKING BLACKBURN!!!
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn at May 13, 2015 08:03 PM (ZTc8k)
You know what's weird?
Back to the Future is 30 years old!!
didn't Michael Keaton travel forward to 2015??
Anyway, they remade Poltergeist. Bastards.
Carol Ann died right after that movie, btw. Sad.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:04 PM (sGw0h)
Ya, and I'll bet we hear something about on time arrival and incentives to arrive on time, and penalties for missing arrival time. I'll bet we hear something about deferred maintenance, and defective equipment.
and maybe something about over scheduling engineers without adequate time off between turnarounds. and about being taken off the job for too many complaints.
It's the same thing with truck drivers. The company will push you with an impossible schedule. If you make it, you keep working. If you are late, you don't work. and if something bad happens, its your baby.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 08:04 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: rd at May 13, 2015 08:01 PM (r2TIL)
OK. But it ain't like flying a plane.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:04 PM (48QDY)
Christians just do it.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 13, 2015 08:00 PM (yxw0r)
Nailed it. When you collectivize responsibility, it's always somebody else's job as much as it is your own. You therefore get to ignore that tiny sliver of your own responsibility and harrangue everyone else for ignoring their own tiny sliver. "Won't somebody help?", the whole crowd brays as an easily preventable tragedy unfolds unchallenged.
When you are responsible, you take action and prevent the tragedy yourself.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 13, 2015 08:04 PM (HalrA)
I mean Alex Keaton.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: FireHorse
Anyone who tries to tell me how to run my life, and isn't part of my immediate family, is a bad person.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (i55o+)
didn't Michael Keaton travel forward to 2015??
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:04 PM (sGw0h)
That was in "Mister Mom."
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (yxw0r)
Yeah, me too.
That's a rather modern explanation, but there's a common theme that I noticed in the NT of a spiritual marriage between the believer and God. A fusion, if you will, much as a man and wife might experience where two people become one.
Spiritual Secks (and yeah, you can stand aside, I'll take this thunderbolt myself). A blending of spirits wherein the immature spirit (that'd be me) seeks to join with the ageless, timeless Spirit of The Big Guy, who knows pretty much everything, since He made it all to begin with.
I should probably shut up now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (wMIqV)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the train engineer is white.
..............................
If he wasn't already when he woke up and saw that curve coming up at 106mph.
Posted by: wth - Obergrumpyfuhrer at May 13, 2015 08:06 PM (wAQA5)
Carol Ann died right after that movie, btw. Sad.
She died after the third movie.
Dominque Dunne, who played the older girl, was murdered after the first one, though.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (oVJmc)
Yes, Back To The Future day is October 21 this year.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (J0IP0)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the train engineer is white.
..............................
If he wasn't already when he woke up and saw that curve coming up at 106mph.
Posted by: wth - Obergrumpyfuhrer at May 13, 2015 08:06 PM (wAQA5)
Winston Zedmore?
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (7RVP6)
Apparently Hillary has no issue being on the wrong side of this issue. Shows her desperation to court the left, especially after her whole "safe, legal, and rare" lie.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (MYCIw)
Now's a good time to invest in companies that make kitty litter and antidepressants.------
....and that 'some are, some aren't' view of libs is wrong. Most are, a few aren't a POS. If you forgot your algebra, most is more than some
Posted by: Incontinentia Buttocks at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:08 PM (sGw0h)
Score your favorite public official on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist#Items
For reference, Ted Bundy got a 39/40.
Posted by: BuddyPC at May 13, 2015 08:08 PM (jfUIE)
There's no way he purposely hit a 50 mph turn at 107 mph just to meet a deadline.
Yeah, I'd believe he was going 107 in a 70 mph straight away due to Amtrak incentives for being on time.
But he must have been distracted or fell asleep or something.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:08 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: I hear he makes trains go further in an hour than you've driven all year at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (owC81)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 08:05 PM (0HooB)
Not at all. Many of the Hebrew and Greek words used are surprisingly intimate when describing the right relationship with the Big Guy.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (yxw0r)
Yes, Back To The Future day is October 21 this year.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 08:07 PM (J0IP0)
I think it was 2012 that a bunch of idiots on the internet were talking about 2012 being the year. That was pretty funny.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (7RVP6)
If you've read Marx, and I've read him slightly, you'll notice that his ranting sounds a lot like an angry, bitter failure ranting at God, but, being an atheist, he can't rant at God.
Marx *was* an angry bitter failure. He speaks for all those who came after him.
Man is imperfect. Angry bitter failure Marxism seeks to *fix* that imperfection.
And however many eggs need to be broken........well..that's just okay.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (MDgS8)
In the last run.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mhfmten
You should note: there is no mention here of mag-fed weapons, target practice, blade defense, unarmed defense, long-range marksmanship, nor our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.
Low expectations here. Oth, I do not listen to "the Boss", Gov. Fat Felcher, Fuckin' corrupt pedophiles aka Garden State Public Employees.
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn at May 13, 2015 08:10 PM (ZTc8k)
I'm going with "looking at porn on his phone" for the reason for the distraction.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 08:10 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 13, 2015 08:10 PM (2TN4k)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:10 PM (oVJmc)
How many persons of color were killed on that train that was obviously driven by a person of no color !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 13, 2015 07:48 PM (Sd++4)
.......................................
Word.
Posted by: Harriet Tubman at May 13, 2015 08:10 PM (wAQA5)
they CHOSE that view; embraced it, are living it, and they act on it every day
libs are made, not born; they re-make themselves every g.d. day
Posted by: Incontinentia Buttocks at May 13, 2015 08:11 PM (8CdUx)
Could be.
Or watching netflix on his ipad or something.
Those trains have wifi IIRC.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:11 PM (AkOaV)
Anything to maintain intellectual superiority, at any cost, including her integrity.
It would make me crazy, except that I'm just used to it. My husband can't figure out how we remain friends. For some folks, you just take 'em how they come.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:11 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Dr Spank, 8:05 PM
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That's what I mean. Not every Leftist does that. Some of them just preach about global warming and Monsanto. I think they're wrong, and they think I'm wrong about stuff, but we can get along just fine.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 13, 2015 08:12 PM (KTXxI)
Posted by: karl the welfare king at May 13, 2015 08:12 PM (QLqUE)
I think maybe its a confidence thing for some people, too.
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. And I'm wrong (mostly on minor details) fairly regularly. But I'm fairly confident in myself, my ideology, my beliefs, and my intelligence.
So saying "oops, I was wrong on that fact" doesn't make me feel stupid or insecure or anything.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (AkOaV)
Remember back to 1985 when you first saw Back to the Future...
you would NEVER imagine 2015 being like today -- with a barack hussein obama in the White House.
oh wait, he first went back to 1955...
never mind
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (sGw0h)
Sisters. You just can't chuck em in the ditch.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (48QDY)
Come to think of it, Albert Jay Nock (in Our Enemy the State) makes a similar point in discussing Hegel, Mussolini and Hitler; he just doesn't develop it as much as Nietzsche does.
Posted by: some asshole at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (ibgjc)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
From the sidebar.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (LImiJ)
Anyone seen Moo Moo lately?
Posted by: I hear he makes trains go further in an hour than you've driven all year at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (owC81)
No, but I thought of him as I saw road kill mile after mile today
Oh btw Go Caps
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 13, 2015 08:09 PM (yxw0r)
What did you think was gonna happen in heaven, that we'd all sit around and sing kumbayah?
Marriage is the precursor to heaven, meaning precisely, the marital act. Intimacy with your maker.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Incontinentia Buttocks at May 13, 2015 08:14 PM (8CdUx)
And no need to shut up, BB. Your reflections are very interesting!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:14 PM (1sJza)
Not every Leftist does that. Some of them just preach about global warming and Monsanto. I think they're wrong, and they think I'm wrong about stuff, but we can get along just fine.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 13, 2015 08:12 PM (KTXxI)
Yeah, you're probably right. But I cut all ties with everybody I knew who voted for Obama in 2012, even if they were just liberals, not even leftists.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:14 PM (sdi6R)
You didn't describe Jamal Washington, going to his job, and voting Democrat because that's what Jamals Washington do.
You described Anita Sarkeesian, acting on it every day because she is a rabid true-believer and grifter.
The former can perhaps be reached. The latter should just be exiled.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 08:14 PM (AVEe1)
Probably.
I expect to hear they routinely go through that curve faster that 50, but 107 seems a little too fast.
I'm catching hints that he was 'approaching' the curve, someone upthread said he was braking, so distracted, or not familiar with the route, or overly familiar with the route and bored by it, and 'forgot'.
I know from my own experience that you can screw up, and that 'some people' are just screwed up. So I won't be surprised, much, by what comes next. But it sure sounds like they're going to pin it on the driver.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (+YMhA)
oh, fine, I won't swing at that hanging softball.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anonymous at May 13, 2015 07:15 PM (1Y+hH)
For this to matter, black voters will have to break ranks. Hasn't happened yet but if it ever does things might get interesting.
Also, Lauren is totally correct. Christians will pray for you, liberals are about this close to stoning unbelievers in the streets...
Posted by: Lea at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:13 PM (AkOaV)
Exactly. I would much rather have an employee who said "Yes, I blew that, but this is how I'm going to fix it," than one who won't own up and then expects somebody else to clean up the mess.
And I don't expect my employees to do anything I wouldn't do, either.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (+YMhA)
Another reason to tune out.
Immigration bitchez. They don't speak it.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (48QDY)
Clearly, demonstrably, 107 was too fast.
Also, like I said upthread, braking DURING a turn is never a good idea. Brake before the turn, then ride it out.
But it's not like there isn't ample warning from lights as to the speed up ahead.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:16 PM (AkOaV)
you're probably younger and wiser than me, but I also said that Most is more than Some. I described Most; you noted Some.
Both are there, but in the proportion I claimed.
Posted by: Incontinentia Buttocks at May 13, 2015 08:17 PM (8CdUx)
Would you have a link or two that expands on that, FS? My NT is a bit rusty.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 08:18 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Larry Hagman at May 13, 2015 08:18 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:18 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 08:19 PM (wMIqV)
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Maybe she was accusing Max of microaggressing her and that's what made him mad.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 08:19 PM (LImiJ)
...as in a cement wall for the train to slam in to instead of grass?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:19 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:14 PM (sdi6R)
Same. They are dead to me.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 08:19 PM (aWSo+)
And Charlize Theron isn't playing Max. Some dude who kind of looks like youngish Mel Gibson is playing Max.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 08:20 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:20 PM (1sJza)
Perhaps.
But expecting government employee responsibility definitely is.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:20 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Little Jimmy at May 13, 2015 08:21 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 08:22 PM (HHawz)
And Charlize Theron isn't playing Max. Some dude who kind of looks like youngish Mel Gibson is playing Max.
The trailers make it look like she's the main character.
Damn she's hot.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:22 PM (MDgS8)
Now we know she has really lost her mind or is back on the drugs.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:22 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:22 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:15 PM (AkOaV)
From Jimmy Akin, musing on St. Paul:
"In the glorified state we will be able to love each other more purely, more intensely than we ever could in this life--and without distraction or weakness or contrary temptation. We won't be our irritable, flawed, exasperating, selves. We will be both more loving and more lovable.
And so we should not face the prospect of the next world as a lie without love but as a life with more and more intense and more pure love than we have ever known in this world.
It is to be a live without sex, and this confuses us as in this life the sexual act seems incredibly powerful, but we must recognize that the sexual act offers only a glimmer of the love and intimacy of heaven. It is not heaven itself. Heaven is the real good toward which sex--and all earthly goods--point."
Based on info from both St. Paul and from C.S. Lewis, both of whom I believe to be very good theologians.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:23 PM (+YMhA)
Huh. I believe you're right. Can't tell that from the previews, though.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 08:23 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: Little Tommy at May 13, 2015 08:23 PM (wAQA5)
Unfortunately, while religion REQUIRES faith, science and economics and the like ... doesn't. Worse, while one needs faith for religion because there IS no proof, there is proof ... that everything the Leftists believe is wrong.
So while they insist they are the party of science, they treat science like religion (which makes the Al Gore climate scam the modern-day equivalent to Middle Ages Indulgences) while mocking the religions of the Right (see Christianity and Judaism).
Great post, Ace! Thanks.
Posted by: acethepug at May 13, 2015 08:23 PM (WK825)
Posted by: Little Jimmy at May 13, 2015 08:21 PM (wAQA5)
Funny story. The only time I did that, there was a state escort for the team that was carrying nuclear waste. Complete with SHP helicopters.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:23 PM (48QDY)
https://tinyurl.com/ljok3ym
we won't give you the freedom to sin, in short
Paradise
no need to thank, you already gave at the office
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (Uk9e2)
Now we know she has really lost her mind or is back on the drugs.
Well...you can read a book without buying into what it's selling.
But still.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (MDgS8)
Frankly, I think it would be a miracle if it was 1/10 of the original.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (oVJmc)
Now we know she has really lost her mind or is back on the drugs.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:22 PM (iQIUe)
Well, maybe. I don't have any knowledge or opinion about her intelligence, but a lot of people started studying up on Islam after 9/11, such as Pamela Geller.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (wMIqV)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:16 PM (AkOaV)
I don't know anything about warning lights other than the red/yellow/green lights to signal an open/occupied block of track. Don't know anything about the signage. And I'm taking all my information from comments and news reports.
Don't know the guys history either, good or bad. and I was inclined to believe the worst from the way the media (or the union) protected the engineer.
Ace complained about armchair speculation. But I'm doing it anyway, as an exercise in critical thinking. If I'm wrong, I'll adjust my assumptions next time.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 08:25 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:25 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn at May 13, 2015 08:25 PM (ZTc8k)
oh, for gods sake...
I think these people are realllly trying to start their worldwide revolution they've been hoping for.
They want a socialist revolution, but I see more of a ... french twist to it were it to happen.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:26 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:27 PM (+YMhA)
I think thats what comment sections are for.
ace, being a (coughcough) respected member of the media can't be speculating too much.
we don't get called out if we're wrong.
it's fun to speculate sometimes. especially when there's nothing better to do except bitch about republicans.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:26 PM (AkOaV)
Well, if you see someone sharpening up the old guillotine, it may be a good time to get out of town.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 13, 2015 08:28 PM (+YMhA)
well then it would have to scrape the side of every train?
because if it was back far enough to "push" the train back on to the tracks, wouldn't that mean the train already derailed if it got close to the wall?
I mean, I don't know. I'm not an engineer.
But to me, no retaining walls do not seem to make sense.
Having drivers who don't go double the speed limit seems to make sense.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:29 PM (AkOaV)
If it's 130 lb Charlize kicking ass on 230 lb guys it probably will be pretty derivative of a hundred other warrior chick movies.
Looks like a pass to me.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:29 PM (MDgS8)
true believers because they have *made* themselves mentally ill. That
and the constant inter-group purges are apparently defining features of
the Statists, no matter what they may be calling themselves at the
moment.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 13, 2015 07:40 PM (GDulk)
Why do you think that they're so eager to normalize mental illness? It makes it easier to reshape perceptions. If a man can one day be declared a woman, and in fact history changed to state that he was always a woman, and people made to acknowledge it, then anything is possible.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 08:30 PM (+eQ0e)
pay in cash? you must be a furtive criminal, up to doubleplus ungood
this whole mandarin class needs to burn
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:30 PM (Uk9e2)
i get the impression that the whole tranny thing is mostly just a way to troll those "stupid, ignorant, toothless rednecks".
I don't think anyone thinks that "changing" biological genders is within a standard deviation of "normal" human behavior.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
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You're right-- you dont have any knowledge of her intelligence. She's dumb as a rock.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:31 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 08:32 PM (Cq0oW)
well the article said the idea was to "end the boom and bust cycle" (I thought Keynes already did that!) by giving government complete control of our money (as if they already dont control our money) and allowing them to manipulate interest rates to stop the natural business cycle from happening.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 08:33 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (KDbAT)
You're right-- you dont have any knowledge of her intelligence. She's dumb as a rock.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:31 PM (iQIUe)
Oh, so she's planning on converting, then.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (sGw0h)
Gotcha, FS. Thanks.
Time to eat and help B'Gal watch the telly. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (sdi6R)
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Probably just attention seeking.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:35 PM (iQIUe)
islam is a totalitarian and supremacist cult built on a fraud
she's right
people who admire pant creases just don't like her methods and her annoying adherence to that central truth
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:36 PM (Uk9e2)
only casually following this digression.
wheres moo moo?
I'm in an arguing mood right now.
heh
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (KDbAT)
What about his brother, Woodrow Wilson?
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:36 PM (48QDY)
well the article said the idea was to "end the boom and bust cycle" (I thought Keynes already did that!) by giving government complete control of our money (as if they already dont control our money) and allowing them to manipulate interest rates to stop the natural business cycle from happening.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:32 PM (AkOaV)
I see no possible way that could go wrong.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:37 PM (sdi6R)
She's dumb as a rock.
Who is??
Some hot crazy chick that got mangled up in the Hollywood mangler.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:37 PM (MDgS8)
Would bring you to tears.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 13, 2015 08:37 PM (FsuaD)
Margaret sanger?
Although Wilson would be up there, too.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:37 PM (AkOaV)
http://tinyurl.com/k2aeckw
So Sean I apologize for my racist thoughts!
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 08:38 PM (0FSuD)
Mohammed?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 08:38 PM (oVJmc)
Anyway, I don't think you can go back far enough to get rid of dumb.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2015 08:38 PM (bLnSU)
I agree!
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! (to communism)
-- (to paraphrase Admiral Farragut)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:39 PM (AkOaV)
Bradley Effect.
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at May 13, 2015 07:08 PM (1brdf)
I WAS IN THE POOL!
Posted by: Costanza at May 13, 2015 08:39 PM (ecDRv)
If you listen or read any commie revolutionary claptrap, it is so damn boring. It's like a bad joke.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:39 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:37 PM (AkOaV)
Reagan defeated communists mostly.
Even he couldn't beat Wilson's home grown socialists.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:40 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2015 08:41 PM (wMIqV)
Some of it grew back.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 08:41 PM (Cq0oW)
We never say sorry here at AoS; it's a rule.
You tell them to go horsefuck -- that's how they know you care.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:41 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 08:42 PM (rwI+c)
teach the young, corrupt the youth of idiot marinated Athens
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:42 PM (Uk9e2)
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! (to communism)
-- (to paraphrase Admiral Farragut)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:39 PM (AkOaV)
I bet the government could stop the climate cycle too, if they really applied themselves.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (sdi6R)
Nip. I posted earlier. The odds were in your favor.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (48QDY)
My sister transformed, over the years, from a freewheelin' punk rocker with a wicked sense of humor into a shrill, bitter vegan Euro-lefty for whom every blandly remark is a trigger that will magically turn her into a burning pillar of rage. She hates the Church, which we never attended growing up, and worships the government as a dispenser of grace and atonement.
We literally can't speak to each other. We have no common language any more. There hasn't been contact in almost two years and it's frankly been a relief.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (MDgS8)
They'd succeed too if it weren't for those rascally Republicans!
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 08:45 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 08:45 PM (W5DcG)
its lie will continue to destroy the Church's witness
I weep like a daughter of Jerusalem
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:45 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (jR7Wy)
yikes, sorry to hear that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 08:46 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (48QDY)
Thanks. MO smelled of PC cover up. Guess it was just lazy reporting.
Shocked about that.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 08:47 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:32 PM (AkOaV)
----
Fear the Boom and Bust!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
Round II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:47 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 08:47 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:48 PM (Uk9e2)
No shit - I don't care what you're passionate about - stop trying to convert me. If what you follow is All That and a Bag of Chips - I should be able to see that for myself. No reason to bend my ear about it.
That's my biggest problem with Baptists and Leftists - they violate my Number One Rule of Scogg - Just Leave Me the Fuck Alone.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 08:49 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 08:43 PM (MDgS
Maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXpBjSLvvNI
Somebody linked that on an ONT a couple of weeks ago, and it's one of those "that which has been seen cannot be unseen" sort of things.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:49 PM (sdi6R)
ah, yes, the ol' keynes v hayek raps.
found them on reason.com a few years ago, been a fan. but everyone ive shared them with has thought i was a nerd
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 08:49 PM (AkOaV)
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My great hope is that her internal bullshit detector will reactivate and she'll flip the bird to this poisonous philosophy.
I'm sure she's thinking the same about me!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:50 PM (jR7Wy)
One of my favorite scenes from Cambridge Five between Anthony Blount and the Queen Mother:
You didn't answer my question about vices. You rather swerved it.
Um I used to be quite keen on Marx.
- Groucho?
- The other one.
- Harpo, the deaf one?
- Karl, the bearded one.
- Boils.
- Lots, apparently.
On his married quarters.
No, on his bottom.
Another country altogether.
So You're a homosexualist, a lapsed Marxist And I'm related to you.
You and me, Anthony.
Two queens in a pod.
http://goo.gl/7TjEpr
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 08:50 PM (iQIUe)
big diference there from force, which is what Lefty is up to
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 08:51 PM (Uk9e2)
and if she was a slave, there is something wrong about liking gladiator movies 'cuz if you are a troll and like gladiator movies. . . something something. I don't know what.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 08:52 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe) at May 13, 2015 08:53 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 08:49 PM (rT51E)
I'm a Baptist Scogg. Do your thing. I won't be like our church's preacher from the 40's and check to see if you're going to the movies on Sunday.
I just know my church is headed in a better direction than PCUSA. Now they will NOT leave you alone.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:54 PM (48QDY)
I'm sure she's thinking the same about me!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:50 PM (jR7Wy)
If she spends her time in a liberal cesspool, good luck. I saw my sister transform. We talk, but strictly avoid most things of substance, because tolerance.
Posted by: Costanza at May 13, 2015 08:54 PM (ecDRv)
Fenelon is also very good about this. He posts what he believes - but he doesn't chase you around the thread beating you over the head with it. He posts his opinion ... just like the rest of us. No more. No less.
My opinions on religion are complicated. I distrust an organized anything. I'm also bringing my guns and joining up if the Baptists form a militia.
It's weird.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 08:54 PM (rT51E)
279 You know, there is the cliche about using a time machine to kill
Hitler before he came to power but if I had that ability to go back in
time and kill somebody, it would definitely be Karl Marx. I cannot think
of any other single person who has caused as much misery on earth.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 08:34 PM (KDbAT)
What about his brother, Woodrow Wilson?
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:36 PM (48QDY)"
Well, if I had a list, he would be on it but I was thinking of if you could only do one.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 08:55 PM (KDbAT)
A train is not a car, the turning force comes from the rail not friction.
Posted by: DaveA at May 13, 2015 08:55 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 08:55 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 08:54 PM (rT51E)
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It's weirder than you know. Fenelon's a she!
We really need that spreadsheet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:56 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: DaveA at May 13, 2015 08:55 PM (DL2i+)
Newton's second law.
Posted by: flounder at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (ecDRv)
That guy...
Posted by: E.T. at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (K+RBk)
We really need that spreadsheet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:56 PM (jR7Wy)
Or colors.
Oh. Wait.
Triggering?
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (48QDY)
And you are probably right. No doubt in my mind - if somebody just follows general Biblical practices - their lives will turn out better than average. I own a copy myself.
Like I said - it's complicated. And I was raised Baptist as well. No horrid stories about a corrupt Choir Leader. Just a lot of formative years listening to people I knew were full of shit at the time waxing eloquent on Sunday that I wouldn't trust the other six.
I knew that shit at 12.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (1sJza)
It's weird.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May
Not weird at all. I understand and I'm a member of a church
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 08:59 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 08:59 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 08:59 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Zombie FDR at May 13, 2015 08:59 PM (Dwehj)
You people kill me. Anna Puma ... can I assume a she ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:00 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 09:01 PM (sGw0h)
This is not an insult, by the way.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:01 PM (AVEe1)
Mad Max isn't going to work if Charlize Theron was a sex slave who turns
into a kick ass action hero. Doesn't work because if she was a kick ass
action hero, she would not be a sex slave, unless she wanted to be and
that would be hot, but she would not be a slave.
and if she was a slave, there is something wrong about liking
gladiator movies 'cuz if you are a troll and like gladiator movies. . .
something something. I don't know what.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 08:52 PM (51GKk)"
Well, Conan the Barbarian was a slave and got those muscles turning the wheel. And it is the muscles that made him such a powerful fighter.
Perhaps as a sex slave she got a lot of muscles doing the horizontal mambo. And if she did it in a whole lot of acrobatic positions, the applications to Conan like gladiatorial skills are obvious.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 09:01 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Tom "Cheatyhands" Brady at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (Dwehj)
I'm with you.
Just start with the Ten Commandments and then the two form the NT and you have a good base for life.
Sadly, I'm down to about to about 2 and a half.
I ain't condemning anyone.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (B3vDy)
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (51GKk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 08:58 PM (1sJza)
I've had the idea that you were a she for a long time. I don't know exactly where I got it. Maybe you slipped up in one comment.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (sdi6R)
Android.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 09:01 PM (sGw0h)
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We prefer the term "synthetic human".
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:03 PM (jR7Wy)
speaking of which, I just downloaded Ex Machina...hope it's good
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (B3vDy)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (mGBKM)
It did terrible at the box office.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (sGw0h)
But are they properly inflated?
Posted by: Tom "Cheatyhands" Brady at May 13, 2015 09:02 PM (Dwehj)
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Is that code?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:04 PM (jR7Wy)
I don't mean it as a jab to those folks - I just don't trust anybody based upon their affiliations. Anybody can coach a ball team, do scouting, or go to church - the doors are wide open. Attendance doesn't sway me much.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:05 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: Ioseb Besarionis Dze Jugashvili at May 13, 2015 09:05 PM (TV9BR)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:06 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cylon at May 13, 2015 09:06 PM (sGw0h)
that energy has to go somewhere.
the wheels stop moving, but the momentum still exists.
right?
I'm no physics genius here, but that just seems like common sense to me.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:06 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Tom "Cheatyhands" Brady at May 13, 2015 09:06 PM (Dwehj)
I have the feeling that, since it's the same director as Road Warrior, this one will NOT suck.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:06 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:07 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:07 PM (mGBKM)
I recommended The Drop to someone a while ago. Did you like it, whoever you were?
Posted by: Cylon at May 13, 2015 09:07 PM (sGw0h)
Stephen Fry sez that, in that case, the postwar Germans would have found somebody even worse.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:08 PM (AVEe1)
I'm with you. Always assumed Fen was a "she".
Don't know why.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:09 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:05 PM (rT51E)
Commitment means something. There are some special people at our church. They do so much more than I can/am willing to do. There is a reason they are at the event, be it Sunday school, practice, choir or whatever. They want to help.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:09 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: AD at May 13, 2015 09:09 PM (cIoI4)
Not sure what would happen. Might be amusing or terrifying.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:10 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:10 PM (AkOaV)
Is your action the moment you see that a train has derailed at 100mph of thinking that you should use it as critique of how roads and bridges are funded and ask for money the same behavior as Pat Robertson asking for money, or that guy with the pubic hair wig on his head, or that Robert Tilton guy?
Yeah, it's all the same mindset. Total criminals.
You look at Bill Blassio and you see a corrupt slob of a disheveled lazy assed douchebag.
He has that same tubular puffy pathetic physique as our good friend Jim Bakker.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at May 13, 2015 09:10 PM (APXIm)
Picked up my phone ... reflexively hit Favorites, Ace Of Spades.
That's screwed up.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:11 PM (rT51E)
http://tinyurl.com/q79egjj
Posted by: DaveA at May 13, 2015 09:11 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:12 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:12 PM (1sJza)
Picked up my phone ... reflexively hit Favorites, Ace Of Spades.
That's screwed up.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:11 PM (rT51E)
Welcome.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:13 PM (48QDY)
Anna Puma ... can I assume a she ?
I assume, but she comes up with the wildest shit at the HQ. Next to Vic, she is the best commentator. Where she finds the stuff she posts is beyond me.
Clearly Japanese.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 09:13 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 09:13 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:14 PM (+eQ0e)
Posted by: AD at May 13, 2015 09:14 PM (XrHO0)
I don't brake a car during turns because having the wheels stop while you're going 60 mph does not mean you lose momentum. Yes the friction is required to turn, but if you brake while you're turning (especially, in say, snow, where you don't have much friction anyways) your momentum stays the same, but your wheels lock up and you're likely to spin out or flip.
I don't know. Like I said, not a physic geek.
But you don't just bleed that momentum just like that, especially when a train (or car, or bicycle, or anything with brakes) is leaning in to a turn.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:14 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:14 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: George Forman at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (AkOaV)
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Do not adjust yer set. We control the horizontal and the verticool
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
Good at math, lousy driver??
Posted by: Cylon at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (sGw0h)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (B3vDy)
Posted by: flounder at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (ecDRv)
Why the fuck does she bring her ignorant politics to church? Her advocating tyranny, even though she's too dim to realize what she's doing, is hard to sit through.
The Episcopal church is dried up smoky toast. I wish I could decide what denomination would be better.
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 09:16 PM (mn0Jm)
Hence her preoccupation with WWII Pacific history.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
I misspelled "encyclopedic knowledge". Sorry.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:16 PM (sdi6R)
According Leona Ozaki, of the Newport City Tank Police, I am a "bio-mechanical love doll."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (Cq0oW)
My eyes are beginning to glaze over.
I'm not a liberal so I don't LOVE science sexually.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (AkOaV)
Golflady is out of town. I won't have to explain the LOL.
Posted by: Golfman at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (B3vDy)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (mGBKM)
Just sayin'.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (Uk9e2)
I'd take it with a grain of salt. That website what you might call an avowedly male-centric outlook.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (oVJmc)
I've seen his artwork. It was fine. Even good. Put him in art school, and a whole lot of unpleasantness is solved.
We'd might still be stuck with the anti-joo rants, but then, we have to deal with similar in 8chan today...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (AVEe1)
Mr/Ms/Mrs Fenelon ...
... seems to me that Hitler was just the bastard they picked, out of a long line of bastard candidates. Bastards like him popped up in large quantities in Russia, Japan, Italy, and numerous other countries. They weren't identified as Bastards at the time. Mussolini was particularly popular here. Fascism was considered a valid political movement here.
My point being ... I think the mood was right for countries to pick numerous people like that. If anything ... Hitler was less competent than some of the other options. Imagine an Albert Speer in charge of Germany.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:19 PM (rT51E)
years ago back when I still occasionally went to (catholic) church I was in the pews when we were doing the "lord hear our prayers" and the priest said something like "that everyone in this country gets universal healthcare" and I was like "yep, I think I'm an atheist now." and walked out.
Embarrassed my family, but fuck that guy. I don't need to be preached at by a socialist dick.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:19 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:20 PM (0NdlF)
https://youtu.be/mi5GFuvCIp4
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:20 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:20 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: stuffy at May 13, 2015 09:20 PM (I67Mv)
I've seen his artwork. It was fine. Even good. Put him in art school, and a whole lot of unpleasantness is solved.
We'd might still be stuck with the anti-joo rants, but then, we have to deal with similar in 8chan today...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (AVEe1)
rdbrewer should put up a Hitler painting in a morning art thread. Just for the hell of it.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:21 PM (sdi6R)
And as far as strangling someone in their crib, Id vote for Robespierre and Mao as well. I just wouldn't want to kill a baby.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:21 PM (1sJza)
I don't know. I don't think the people themselves are all too important when it comes down to it.
I think Germany was headed in a very bad direction in the '30s with or without hitler.
Would history be different? Undoubtedly. But better? I don't know.
But anyways, if anyone gets the chance to go back in time and kill Hitler -- don't! Can't fuck up the space / time continuum like that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:21 PM (AkOaV)
He should spare us that just to spare us the image
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:22 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:22 PM (68qdQ)
But then it went on to mostly labour whining and all this we must come together blah blah blah. It's no the tune they were singing earlier which was Kill The Tories!
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 07:18 PM (iQIUe)
As I recall, the Donk response to W's SotU address in 05' was given by The Searchlight Strangler. It was the first SotU after W's reelection and Reid gets up there in front of the camera and says almost verbatim "Congratulations on your re-election, Mr President. Now you need to compromise with US."
What a fucking dick.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:22 PM (ynQIy)
Good point!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:22 PM (1sJza)
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Oh let us worship the bitch goddess Mammon! Dance before the golden idol!
**gyrates lasciviously**
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:23 PM (jR7Wy)
speaking of art I heard classical music sales are in the toilet, we're talking maybe a couple hundred sales per title in the entire US
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:23 PM (Uk9e2)
You're always such a crowd-pleaser.
*ducks behind cover from machine gun fire*
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:23 PM (0NdlF)
kid Hitler is all screwed up because people from the future keep trying to kill him.
we named it Huntermenschen.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:23 PM (Cq0oW)
There's not one of the more conservative branches of the Anglican Church anywhere near you?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:24 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:21 PM (1sJza)
Think of it as a post birth abortion.
Posted by: just saying at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (B3vDy)
Posted by: Arsenio at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (7K7xP)
I think the proper answer for GOP candidates on whether they would have inadaed Iraq is, "We needed to invade it to know what was in it".
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (+jijM)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (68qdQ)
Well, whatever, you are well loved at the HQ.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (0FSuD)
Keep in mind that Adolf was not a military mastermind,there were several other military who could have made the war an entirely different proposition.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: flounder at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (ecDRv)
Not that we are this far in the comments...I always wondered if people who aren't Christians but celebrate Christmas feel like its an empty holiday.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (ODxAs)
actually don't go if your ancestors ever crossed the Red Sea on foot, or if you're an AGW skeptic either.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (AVEe1)
How about just getting Adolf what he wanted all along, which was go to to frickin' ART SCHOOL.
I've seen his artwork. It was fine. Even good. Put him in art school, and a whole lot of unpleasantness is solved.
We'd might still be stuck with the anti-joo rants, but then, we have to deal with similar in 8chan today...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:18 PM (AVEe1)"
Back in the day Norman Spinrad wrote a very strange book titled "The Iron Dream". In the preface it says that the author of the book is Adolf Hitler who after serving in the German army during the Great War, dabbled briefly in radical politics before he emigrated to the United States where, unlike Europe, he had an opportunity to make a living as an artist doing covers for pulp science fiction magazines during the science fiction "Golden Age".
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (68qdQ)
eh. better than I could do, but nothing to write home about.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (AkOaV)
... the fixation on Hitler, I think, is like the fixation on Obama in one way. They're symptoms manifested. If Hitler doesn't rise - Germany still goes the general way they did.
If Obama doesn't get the nomination - nothing of substance changes here. You've still got 1/3 of the country that yearns for some vague, not quite formed idea in their minds that is National Socialism - they just don't understand the term.
I firmly believe that. But I'm also the paranoid dude blogging from a hotel bar. Your mileage may vary.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (rT51E)
actually don't go if your ancestors ever crossed the Red Sea on foot, or if you're an AGW skeptic either.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 09:26 PM (AVEe1)
Catholics have been wrong about science before.
Posted by: just saying at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (0FSuD)
Something ate half my comment.
About Adolf,he may have been the LEAST worst, imagine someone truly competent in his stead.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (jeCnD)
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it's for kids. I've always been more of a civil calendar guy anyway
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (mn0Jm)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:19 PM (rT51E)
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I always wonder what would have happened if Reinhard Heydrich had become a concert violinist, or married the girl he'd been betrothed to and remained in the Navy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (jR7Wy)
nah, its a great holiday.
you get shit. and theres good food.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Actinide at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (jppz9)
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (iQIUe)
George Miller is a real AGW true believer isn't he?
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:17 PM (mGBKM)
Yep. Happy Feet was supposedly a total AGW-fest (never saw it, but that's what I've read).
But remember, the whole Mad Max series is leftist mythmaking, from the very beginning. Relentlessly awesome leftist mythmaking (at least the first two films), but leftist mythmaking nonetheless.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (ynQIy)
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I read that. It an analysis in the back in which they decided the author wasn't very good, just violent revenge fantasies, but was deeply troubled.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 09:31 PM (LImiJ)
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 09:31 PM (mn0Jm)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 09:31 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:32 PM (AkOaV)
I think the proper answer for GOP candidates on whether they would have inadaed Iraq is, "We needed to invade it to know what was in it".
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (+jijM)
Ha ha. Unfortunately that would fly over the heads of many
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:32 PM (HHawz)
Well you get food and gifts for Hanukkah but I don't celebrate that. Seems you would go that way if its for the kids, more gift days.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 09:32 PM (ODxAs)
http://tinyurl.com/prackfy
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:25 PM (68qdQ)
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Flowers by Adolf.
Bouquets of edelweiss?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:32 PM (jR7Wy)
Catholics have been wrong about science before.
Posted by: just saying at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (wkuqO)
Yeah that shit about the earth and the sun.
http://tinyurl.com/7e6yk
Posted by: Galileo at May 13, 2015 09:32 PM (0FSuD)
Let them get their money to finance their multi billion dollar empire from the poor third world socialists.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:33 PM (AkOaV)
Because most people decide what they want first, and figure out the reasons why they're "right" later.
Dude - that's the deal. I have a lot of strong opinions ... but I'm lead pipe stone cold lock sure on that.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:33 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: Kant at May 13, 2015 09:33 PM (7K7xP)
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like any other. sin and redemption. transcending through faith. that kind of thing.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:33 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:34 PM (68qdQ)
https://youtu.be/A0D4fHieW8o
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (68qdQ)
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Absolutely! Tell me that wouldn't get some butts in the pews!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:34 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 09:34 PM (ODxAs)
About Adolf,he may have been the LEAST worst, imagine someone truly competent in his stead.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (jeCnD)/i]
That's sort of like my rhetorical question: Which is worse, a competent Marxist or an incompetent Marxist?
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:35 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 13, 2015 09:28 PM (jeCnD)
Stalin
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:35 PM (HHawz)
well most non practicing / agnostic / atheist jews do do that.
for non practicing / agnostic / atheist christians, we still celebrate the christian holidays.
because why not?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:27 PM (1sJza)
And they inflated the hell out of their currency so things on the ground pretty well sucked.
Posted by: Lea at May 13, 2015 09:35 PM (vmMMi)
What is your question about the dance Fi?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:36 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:36 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 09:37 PM (ODxAs)
Try julius streicher.
If he doesn't give dolph a run for the reichsmarks, nobody will.
Posted by: Luap Nor. Amatuer Everything at May 13, 2015 09:37 PM (RQ2Z6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:14 PM (68qdQ)
Do you think Himmler or Roehm or Goering would have been better people or hated Jews less if Hitler had not become a Nazi? The Nazi Party attracted malcontents who blamed all of Germany's problems on being "stabbed in the back" by Jews. We will never know if they would have found an equally charismatic leader if Hitler hadn't been around - but certainly, he did not create that ideology - or the hate and resentment Nazism tapped in to.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 13, 2015 09:37 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (68qdQ)
The thing with Hitler getting a chance to develop his art has been done before.
Max (2002)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_%282002_film%29
Haven't seen it. No idea if it's good or not.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (ynQIy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: stuffy at May 13, 2015 09:39 PM (I67Mv)
Posted by: just saying at May 13, 2015 09:39 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:39 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:39 PM (68qdQ)
http://www.traditioninaction.org/History/A_003_Galileo.html
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:40 PM (1sJza)
Nazis certainly didn't corner the market on the sentiment. They weren't the only country going National Socialist at the time.
Hell ... read some shit about the Wilson Administration. Or ... READ A CERTAIN BOOK BY JONAH GOLDBERG ON THE VERY SAME TOPIC.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:40 PM (rT51E)
If women are preaching from the pulpit, that church has lost the plot.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:40 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:40 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: Comments at May 13, 2015 09:41 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:41 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (68qdQ)
I think that out on East Colfax here in Denver, you can get a roll with a bit of sausage for about ten bucks. Wear protection of course.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:41 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:41 PM (0NdlF)
The good news is Spotify just served up Little Feat playing Spanish Moon. It's funkified greatness.
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 09:41 PM (mn0Jm)
Um.......
Posted by: stuffy at May 13, 2015
Time for the 96th theis
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (HHawz)
found them on reason.com a few years ago, been a fan. but everyone ive shared them with has thought i was a nerd
** fist bump **
Posted by: fluffy at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (Ua6T/)
well, lets not forget that the biggest political enemies to the nazis were the international communists, led (in large part) by jews, including those at the frankfurt school.
so i think nazis hating jews was a little baked in to the cake as it was.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (1sJza)
Reading the report on Robinson posted on treehouse. He was out of his friggin mind assaulting all his friends. They are the ones who called cops.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (WEvvb)
Much like Julius Caeser accidentally burning the Library at Alexandria and the Muslims deliberately doing the same thing. All we hear about is Hypatia and how the Christians burned the library down.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:44 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 09:44 PM (0NdlF)
What is your post in reference to?
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The article, "Leftism is Just Religion for the Godless"
Posted by: Comments at May 13, 2015 09:45 PM (TzeLs)
498 If I have never done anything wrong, then I'm not doing anything right.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (WEvvb)
A married man?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:45 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: stuffy at May 13, 2015 09:46 PM (I67Mv)
Yep and for people who supposedly rely so much on facts they don't want all of the facts or any of the nuance either about Galileo
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:46 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (68qdQ)
There is a great book called 'when money dies' and the author periodically just gives lists of prices as they get higher and higher...scary stuff. They also made it illegal to use currency from out of the county at some point.
They talk about how people were basically reduced to bartering things because money had no value, wallpapering with money, carting literal wheelbarrows worth of cash around to try to buy something. Absolutely insane. Everyone should read this book.
Posted by: Lea at May 13, 2015 09:46 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (ynQIy)
Absolutely.
Have to say, I never thought it was all that.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 09:47 PM (aWSo+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:47 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (WEvvb)
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My favorite of late:
"Failure is an option." Because it takes trial and error to get things right.
Posted by: Comments at May 13, 2015 09:48 PM (TzeLs)
After Black Friday in '29 and due to the Weimar Republic printing all
that currency, I think a roll with a bit of sausage cost 1,5 million
Marks.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:38 PM (68qdQ)"
The hyperinflation was mostly in 1923 and they had issued new currency by 1929. One of the consequences of the hyperinflation was that the German people associated it as one of the failings of democracy. They had never had that sort of thing happen during the imperial period. A lot of the problems caused by the Versailles Treaty were also ascribed to problems of democracy. That is one reason why people were amenable to the National Socialists argument that a strong Leader is a better idea than democracy.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 09:50 PM (KDbAT)
Granted - not my favorite stuff - more a Marvel Man myself. But still ... Clark Kent would have put a stop to that shit - and probably given them a lecture that would have made me throw up just a bit in my mouth.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:50 PM (rT51E)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 09:50 PM (Cq0oW)
498 If I have never done anything wrong, then I'm not doing anything right.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:42 PM (WEvvb)
A married man?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:45 PM (HHawz)
No, but I know what you speak of.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:51 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 09:51 PM (MQEz6)
a good writer I've found on early modern science and the church is lawrence principe
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:52 PM (Uk9e2)
The good old days. We weren't able to charge that much.
Posted by: Barney Frank at May 13, 2015 09:53 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 09:51 PM (MQEz6)
Flouncing about with those hoity-toity telescopes and such? He deserved to get his lunch money stolen.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:53 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:46 PM (1sJza)
Yes - the people who bring up "Galileo!!" remind me of the leftists who shout "Faux News!!" as a way of shutting down any debate.
My concern is not Galileo however, but what the present misguided fool who sadly occupies the See of Peter is doing to the Church. The Church has had bad Popes before. Francis certainly isn't up there (or down there) with the worst of the Borgia Popes, but he's doing very real damage to the Church with his stupid leftism.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 13, 2015 09:54 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 09:54 PM (0FSuD)
"Failure is an option." Because it takes trial and error to get things right."
No such thing as "wasted time" if you've learned something in the process.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 09:55 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: FCF at May 13, 2015 09:55 PM (kejii)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 13, 2015 09:56 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:56 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 09:56 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:56 PM (68qdQ)
Ditto ... night crowd starting to come in. Shit getting louder. No thanks.
Thanks for the time and conversation Horde.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 13, 2015 09:57 PM (rT51E)
Sorry to hear that. Do you want to talk a little about what's going on?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:57 PM (1sJza)
So I still am amazed I got this gun for $200 at a flea market.
http://tinyurl.com/oq7jdmr
It's heavy, but it really shots well. Ammo is not to cheap, but getting an $800 gun for $200 is a lot of free ammo.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 09:57 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:57 PM (Uk9e2)
"They call him dictator. To the unpatriotic, to the anti-social and anti-civilized, to the lawless, to the bolshevists, he is dictator. To Italy--full of sterling human worth--to Italy, in my judgement, Mussolini is liberator."--Edward Price Bell, of the Chicago Daily News.
I found it in a collection of interviews from the mid-twenties; see link in nick for the full text.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 09:57 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: FCF at May 13, 2015 09:58 PM (kejii)
For a moment I thought you were talking about the approaching ONT crew. ;^)
Take it easy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:58 PM (1sJza)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 09:58 PM (mGBKM)
Press 1 for Moron Listening
Press 2 for Moron Listening and Offering Thoughts
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (Uk9e2)
"Failure is an option." Because it takes trial and error to get things right."
No such thing as "wasted time" if you've learned something in the process.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 09
I learned I lost another day and a half of my life going to the company headquarters. Talk about wasted time
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (HHawz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2015 10:00 PM (J0IP0)
Flouncing about with those hoity-toity telescopes and such?
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:53 PM (WEvvb)
Oo, you had telescopes? Fancy that. We had to make do with a rolled-up newspaper.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:00 PM (sdi6R)
Well, I will keep you and those you care about in prayer, and if you're not into all that I hope you will take it in the Spirit it's intended.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:00 PM (1sJza)
Press 1 for Moron Listening
Press 2 for Moron Listening and Offering Thoughts
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (MQEz6)
Press 3 for unintelligible lefty word salad we can all laugh and point at.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 10:00 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2015 10:01 PM (8HGb7)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 10:01 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:01 PM (MQEz6)
See, there ya go. The next time they call you to make a visit you can tell 'em to sod off, they're a waste of your time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:01 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:01 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 10:02 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 10:02 PM (Uk9e2)
Didn't see that answered but the answer is long, whole books written on it, something that may surprise you is American Banks were funding the Nazis before we entered the war.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 10:02 PM (ODxAs)
Not bad at all.
It in good shape?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: Feh at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (8HGb7)
Yeah, bought it in ID on a Sat and had to figure out how to get it back to NC. Flying out that afternoon.
US Post office one size box. No questions asked, $15. Came in two days.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (0FSuD)
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Flouncing about with those hoity-toity telescopes and such?
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 09:53 PM (WEvvb)
Oo, you had telescopes? Fancy that. We had to make do with a rolled-up newspaper.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:00 PM (sdi6R)
Oh, you had newspaper?
We had to rip out a femur and hollow it out with puppy bones.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (MQEz6)
Unintelligible word be my explanation so I withhold so as NOT to get laughed and pointed at. It honestly would sound like a fruit salad!!!
Posted by: FCF at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (kejii)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:04 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: FCF at May 13, 2015 10:04 PM (kejii)
Press 1 for Moron Listening
Press 2 for Moron Listening and Offering Thoughts
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 09:59 PM (MQEz6)
Press 3 for unintelligible lefty word salad we can all laugh and point at.
Press 4 for bewb pics and dick jokes
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 10:05 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: model_1066 at May 13, 2015 10:05 PM (WEvvb)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2015 10:05 PM (8HGb7)
I like that for a different reason - it pokes a hole in the utopian dreams of people who believe in inevitable Progress.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 10:06 PM (0NdlF)
It in good shape?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:03 PM (ZpOL1)
I had it cleaned and checked out. Dealer said 90%. I would say 70%. Still for damn $200?
Old guy at flea market said, it's not hot. Right, I can go to the bank on his word. Wonder if there is anyway to check a pistol without letting anyone know you are checking it?
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:06 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 13, 2015 10:06 PM (jR7Wy)
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like Franco in Spain
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 13, 2015 10:06 PM (Cq0oW)
And this is what I gave out ton folks who were in our prayer vigil for the Confirmands on Sunday, It works just as well for leaders in the church:
Some ways to pray for other Christians:
1, ) Ask God to help them know what He wants them to do. (Col 1:5)
2. Ask God to give them deep spiritual understanding (Col1:9)
3, Ask God to give them more knowledge of himself (Col 1;10)
4. As God to give them wisdom and spiritual power (Eph 1:18-20)
And as I have said to some people in the church, "I won't be here forever. This will make some people very happy and some rather sad. :^) Same is true of the Pope.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:07 PM (1sJza)
I figure, due to the vast age and size of the universe, that life probably exists in just about any form or intelligence possible.
Although I do agree that if more intelligent life is actually visiting us today that they would consider us to be closer to the dish of bacteria than to them.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:10 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 10:11 PM (MDgS8)
http://prayer-center.upperroom.org
The requests go out to prayer groups around the country. The also have a toll free number to call for someone to pray with but it's hard to get through on that. I know that the requests go out because I used to volunteer with them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:11 PM (1sJza)
Latest Baltimore news reports that two Baltimore Correctional Offices have been arrested as participants in the downtown rioting and looting.
It's criminals and turtles all the way down.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 13, 2015 10:11 PM (VPLuQ)
I dunno. Do dealers have access to a database they can use to check guns being offered to them for sale or trade?
I've never really thought about it. Obviously, pawn stores don't or ignore it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:13 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: Nip Sip
****
One hell of a score. Congrats.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 13, 2015 10:14 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: Newt at May 13, 2015 10:15 PM (Ua6T/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3kQlzOi27M
Reading the comments, I didn't know they were heavily into drugs. I thought they were kind of squeaky clean at the time.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:15 PM (sdi6R)
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My very basic understanding is that Nicholas II's primary issue was the people he was surrounded by in court - and not all of his own choosing. Rasputin, for instance, was there at the behest of Nicholas's wife. He wasn't a great tsar, but he also wasn't a terrible one. He was purely mediocre at a very bad time.
And if Kerensky's replacement government hadn't attempted to continue the war against the Central Powers, then Lenin might not have gotten the support that he needed.
Posted by: junior at May 13, 2015 10:16 PM (F6175)
Posted by: Actinide at May 13, 2015 09:29 PM (jppz9)
Liberation theology. Some defectors have claimed it was pushed out by the KGB to subvert the church. Makes sense given who preaches it, and what they've done to the country.
Posted by: Iblis at May 13, 2015 10:16 PM (DeiiO)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 13, 2015 10:18 PM (E255v)
They kinda are. The vast, cold, barren darkness laying out before us that offers no hope vs. the fear that any day now the Alpha Centaurians will show up in their Star Destroyers and eliminate us a species.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:18 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:18 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:18 PM (mGBKM)
I liked her better when she was a little chunky, before she became a vegetarian.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:20 PM (sdi6R)
That sounds like a plot worth pursuing. A super hero who behaves like a leftist - intruding where he's not invited, causing more harm than good.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 13, 2015 10:21 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:21 PM (mGBKM)
I call it the Superhero theory of government:"
I remember back in '08 that one journalist referred to Barry and Joey as the "Dynamic Duo" of economic recovery.
So, yeah.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:22 PM (ZpOL1)
They kinda are. The vast, cold, barren darkness laying out before us that offers no hope vs. the fear that any day now the Alpha Centaurians will show up in their Star Destroyers and eliminate us a species.
Something tells me space is simply too too vast for that.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 10:22 PM (MDgS8)
I think any Walter is worth at least $300.
I have several, P-1, P 38, PPK and now a PP Super.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:23 PM (0FSuD)
Or Santa Claus who pays his elves with the 1% money.
Posted by: Robinson at May 13, 2015 10:23 PM (5gToQ)
https://youtu.be/oY25uD5B1Ps
(sfw, unless you work in a church)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 13, 2015 10:25 PM (UVfht)
Posted by: puddleglum at May 13, 2015 10:25 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 10:25 PM (ODxAs)
That sounds like an incredible waste of time and energy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 10:27 PM (W5DcG)
I tend to agree. Even advanced species should have a somewhat difficult time making it around any significant portion of the universe. Running into other life may be very rate if not impossible.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:27 PM (ZpOL1)
That sounds like an incredible waste of time and energy.
No kidding. Just teleport a cubic kilometer of planetary mass from any rocky planet to the core of the sun. A brief flash of nova, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 13, 2015 10:29 PM (UVfht)
I've always had a fantasy that alien life will show up one day, and whatever it is, it'll be wearing a cross and know Jesus.
Just to see the world's millions of atheists and agnostics shit their pants at the same time.
Posted by: LawLurker at May 13, 2015 10:30 PM (zKwtX)
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 10:30 PM (DfBdt)
That sounds like an incredible waste of time and energy.
Which it would be.
I tend to agree. Even advanced species should have a somewhat difficult time making it around any significant portion of the universe. Running into other life may be very rate if not impossible.
Very unlikely at best.
For all intents and purposes we are alone.....no matter how full of life the Universe is.
Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2015 10:31 PM (MDgS8)
I know. Travel millions of light years to take out a race that can harm you in no way.
Even the argument about elements doesn't seem to hold very well.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:32 PM (ZpOL1)
Perfectly stated.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:33 PM (ZpOL1)
If she had done it 10 minutes after leaving the set of the "Mad About You" video, I wouldn't have just bought it, I'd have had it laminated and framed. As it is, I've never seen it.
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 10:34 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: The Grays at May 13, 2015 10:35 PM (RQ2Z6)
Posted by: E.T. at May 13, 2015 10:35 PM (K+RBk)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 10:36 PM (XAFOu)
Their women devolved and lost their pointy elbows...
they have come for ours....well..not the democrat ones..
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 13, 2015 10:36 PM (vNlkp)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
****
Now where's the fun in that?
I like to subscribe to the Mars Attacks type of alien.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 13, 2015 10:38 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: Thomasone at May 13, 2015 10:38 PM (lX87U)
http://tinyurl.com/q48byee
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 13, 2015 10:25 PM (ODxAs)
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And somewhat depressing that there is a continuing supply of idiots staffing public schools.
Note: In the comments to he article several comments note that the school has a statue of a rifle-toting mountainman in front. I don't know the facts about that but I do know the Logan High School has a rifle-toting doughboy statue. These school officials are phucking insane and stupid.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 13, 2015 10:38 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: E.T.
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I am very peaceful, and yet I slaughter animals because I am hungry, or because they are pests.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2015 10:39 PM (n6Nt0)
Mooltipass.
Posted by: some alien at Gate 35A at May 13, 2015 10:39 PM (owC81)
Posted by: holygoat at May 13, 2015 10:41 PM (t3wLW)
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 10:42 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:42 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: xzifglaftorf Interstellar Chef at May 13, 2015 10:42 PM (RQ2Z6)
Since we are talking alien invasions. David Gerrold wrote a series of books that are collected under the series title: War Against the Chtorr, Basically the aliens use bio-weapons to wipe out many humans and then start seeding the planet with their biosphere. In the first book, the US government is trying to keep it under wraps that there is an alien invasion as they fight the first wave of the alien bio-invasion. By the last written book, still not seen the real aliens even as their life forms aggressively conquer Earth.
But Gerrold has not finished writing the next book in the series. He keeps saying he will. But I think its now a decade so...
*wanders back out*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:42 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:43 PM (mGBKM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_C23JCduok
Posted by: boulder tori hobo at May 13, 2015 10:44 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:44 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: holygoat at May 13, 2015 10:41 PM (t3wLW)
If I don't check caller ID and they get through I make up bullshit.
And Houston ID....I know you're the Cruz campaign. Stop calling!!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 10:44 PM (XAFOu)
are. I always point out that you don't need a god to be religious
maniac; you just need a dogma and a Devil."
Typically brilliant. Well done.
Oh, and thanks for the heads up on Mad Max: Fury Road. Pity.
Posted by: dissent555 at May 13, 2015 10:44 PM (yR6A1)
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Kudzu! Dammit..., I knew there was something fishy about it. I'm keeping an eye on the Bermuda grass also. It's been behaving rather aggressively.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (n6Nt0)
it just helps with their narratives.
"92% of Americans now support Hillary! 2016" isn't helpful.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (mGBKM)
If that armadillo was a hundred miles from you, you wouldn't care about it, right?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:43 PM (mGBKM)
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I'm into unnecessary and disturbing alien-human sex. Is there any of that? /
Posted by: RioBravo at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (NUqwG)
When they call, I am a black lesbian, single mother, and have never voted Republican.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (VPLuQ)
All people are religious, they may not be religious about religion, but they are religious about something. Politics in the case of the leftist.
Posted by: billy sastard at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (VDovR)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:47 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: tu3031 at May 13, 2015 10:49 PM (EDYaR)
The most memorable time for me with the hero was him rebelling and wanting to get his mother mad. So he wore a skirt and make-up to a lunch with her. That was the only time it registered. I was more into finding out about the aliens and how the humans were dealing with it.
Liz, aka Lizard, is a military pilot. Bit older than the hero. But they grow close and become a pair.
"Never trust a tall dwarf. He's lying about something." - Solomon Short.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:49 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: puddleglum at May 13, 2015 10:50 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2015 10:43 PM (mGBKM)
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I'm into unnecessary and disturbing alien-human sex. Is there any of that? /
Posted by: RioBravo at May 13, 2015 10:45 PM (NUqwG)
How you doin'?
Posted by: Garrus Vakarian at May 13, 2015 10:50 PM (DfBdt)
Just to see the world's millions of atheists and agnostics shit their pants at the same time.
Posted by: LawLurker at May 13, 2015 10:30 PM (zKwtX)
That would be so hilarious. Alien spokeswhatever appears before the UN and announces: "We come in peace to see the earthly birthplace of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Dawkins and Tyson would vomit on the spot, but it wouldn't just be the atheists shitting themselves. The Muslims would be pretty p.o.ed too, especially if the aliens said "Mohammad? We know of no Mohammad..."
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 13, 2015 10:50 PM (+XMAD)
Sorry, practicing my trolls. I'm thinking of signing this one as "Worried Lifelong Democrat."
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 10:51 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: puddleglum at May 13, 2015 10:51 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Raquel Kill at May 13, 2015 10:52 PM (ZpOL1)
You know what really grinds my gears?
That Jeb Bush is running for president.
I mean, really. How fucking insulting. It's really getting me worked up tonight.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:53 PM (AkOaV)
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And after being translated, we'll learn that the first thing they said when they stepped off their spacecraft was, "So this is the world that he was crucified on."
Posted by: junior at May 13, 2015 10:54 PM (F6175)
"I've always had a fantasy that alien life will show up one day, and whatever it is, it'll be wearing a cross and know Jesus."
Or better yet: The aliens come here as atheists and realize that belief in Jesus was the one thing missing from perfecting their society. They are then baptized by the billions.
Posted by: Naes at May 13, 2015 10:54 PM (YhayY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:55 PM (68qdQ)
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:56 PM (MQEz6)
That Jeb Bush is running for president.
"
Screw. Him.
Let's have Hillary and hurry this thing along.
Posted by: Raquel Kill at May 13, 2015 10:56 PM (ZpOL1)
SMBC had a comic like that. The alien says "Jesus? Yeah, he comes back every couple of weeks. When he came the first time, we gave him cookies. Why? What did you guys do?"
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 10:56 PM (qyomX)
One recommendation for visiting pointed out that the people who lead the Gestapo and SS were typically "relentlessly ambitious, relatively young (30's), with academic backgrounds."
Posted by: Totally Spurious Comment at May 13, 2015 10:57 PM (GpIkU)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:57 PM (ZpOL1)
No, I mean how fucking insulting? Seriously.
I really (stupidly) thought the 2010 TEA Party revolt would change shit.
Yet here we are in 2016, and the GOPe and the "conservative" media is pushing Jeb FUCKING Bush instead of laughing his latino ass back to Florida.
Fuck those people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (qyomX)
634 628
"I've always had a fantasy that alien life will show up one day, and whatever it is, it'll be wearing a cross and know Jesus."
Or better yet: The aliens come here as atheists and realize that belief in Jesus was the one thing missing from perfecting their society. They are then baptized by the billions.
Posted by: Naes at May 13, 2015 10:54 PM (YhayY)
These are "my favorite movie star took me to the prom" fantasies.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: The Lone Ranger at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: Garrett at May 13, 2015 10:59 PM (7K7xP)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:59 PM (AkOaV)
the Gestapo and SS were typically "relentlessly ambitious, relatively
young (30's), with academic backgrounds."
Hmmm.
I'm getting something here.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:59 PM (ZpOL1)
Yeah, Baby!!!!
Fuck you, Ovechkin.
You ain't shit, motherfucker. Messier guaranteeing Game 6 in '94 was after winning 4 Cups with the Oilers. Fuck You, Ovechkin. Go fucking golf in Russia, you goddamn overconfident prick.
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 11:00 PM (aLrSh)
Posted by: E.T. at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (K+RBk)
I really (stupidly) thought the 2010 TEA Party revolt would change shit.
Yet here we are in 2016, and the GOPe and the "conservative" media is pushing Jeb FUCKING Bush instead of laughing his latino ass back to Florida.
Fuck those people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (AkOaV
IRS is a pretty good weapon.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (XAFOu)
Posted by: Totally Spurious Comment at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (GpIkU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (o68RC)
646 I've made up my mind on this, I will go out and vote for Hillary! if Jeb wins the nomination.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 10:59 PM (AkOaV)
I live in CA so my vote doesn't matter, but if Jebba the Dick is nominated, I'm writing in a vote for a can of Spam.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Garrett at May 13, 2015 11:02 PM (7K7xP)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 11:02 PM (XAFOu)
well I live in New Hampshire, so I can do some damage.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:03 PM (AkOaV)
It sorta did until the GOP and media got ahold of it.
GOP leadership is bullshit. Fcuk them.
Give them no money or votes.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 11:03 PM (ZpOL1)
The Cure 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH2E00fbKJ8
10,000 Maniacs 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWRmniLj70I
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 11:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2015 11:04 PM (o68RC)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2015 11:01 PM (o68RC)
Who will be the new Greece?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (qyomX)
well I live in New Hampshire, so I can do some damage.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:03 PM (AkOaV)
Speaking of NH. Where is Scotty too hotty going to move next and convince republicans he has a shot so they waste money on him there instead of another better race.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (DfBdt)
Oh, did I mention 'Fuck You, Ovechkin, you goddamn pussy'?
Fuck you, Ovechkjin, you goddamn overconfident Russian pussy!
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (aLrSh)
Maybe Greece will make a cameo after their Grexit from the EU.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (AkOaV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEFEOnXKWuc
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:06 PM (AkOaV)
The thing is, a non carpetbagging masshole R could have won.
So thanks, "new Republican" Scott Brown.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:07 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:07 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Splunge at May 13, 2015 11:08 PM (qyomX)
Mind you, it will all be cheap junk. But it will seem really cool because we've never seen it before.
On the other hand, tissue regenerators and lightsabers.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 13, 2015 11:08 PM (bLnSU)
Oh yeah. I'd trade in my car for a truck, buy some camo clothes and head south west in a second.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:09 PM (AkOaV)
Shit, I'd trade some sun hydrogen for a lightsaber.
Are you fucking kidding me? How badass would that be?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:09 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 13, 2015 11:10 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:58 PM (MQEz6)
Oh, of course they are. But I do like this:
The alien says "Jesus? Yeah, he comes back every couple of weeks. When he came the first time, we gave him cookies. Why? What did you guys do?"
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at May 13, 2015 11:10 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: E.T. at May 13, 2015 11:11 PM (K+RBk)
True.
Being a pessimist (who dumps Tori and Ian on here), I've proposed that the first aliens who come here will be astromuslims. Or, maybe, Ming; running through loops of tape they got from our radio broadcasts, finding Hitler 1936 and blurting out "oh, HE had PROMISE".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 11:11 PM (AVEe1)
I'd sell them Manhattan for some space beads and a lifetime supply of extraterrestrial booze.
Posted by: I'll throw in this lovely bridge here as well at May 13, 2015 11:11 PM (owC81)
I mean we have to do SOMETHING to make SOMEONE in DC listen to us.
Because right now we're getting the big middle finger from the entire city.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:12 PM (AkOaV)
Well, then, what the fcuk?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 11:12 PM (ZpOL1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2015 11:13 PM (o68RC)
That's all they would need. Comets and rocks loaded with goodies: frozen, floating weightless, at low speed.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 11:13 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:13 PM (AkOaV)
Oh, did I mention 'Fuck You, Ovechkin, you goddamn pussy'?
Fuck you, Ovechkjin, you goddamn overconfident Russian pussy!
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 11:05 PM (aLrSh)
Cool bro! Did you chant . 'Were #1. We're #1'
Even though you had no part in it, did you at least give them the chant?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 11:13 PM (XAFOu)
Pay no attention to taxes or laws.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 11:14 PM (ZpOL1)
Of course, exporting jihad to other planets would probably get Earth destroyed, Death Star style.
Posted by: LawLurker at May 13, 2015 11:14 PM (zKwtX)
Charles Stross (before he went full SJW), Singularity Sky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Sky
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2015 11:15 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Naes at May 13, 2015 11:16 PM (YhayY)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 13, 2015 11:13 PM (XAFOu)
Not on your life. The RAN-JUHS are only halfway there. But they sent Cindy Crosby and motherfucking Ovechkin packing. And that's always a good thing.
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 11:27 PM (aLrSh)
Posted by: Matt_SE at May 14, 2015 02:10 AM (axNZt)
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