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Triggers and Triggering
A popular and growing idea in the 90's and early 00's was that people should strive to "own their feelings." It seemed like a movement in psychology or counseling at the time. It meant that the individual was in control of their feelings and that they should take responsibility for them—that they should take responsibility for how they felt. "You made me feel X" was on the verge of becoming taboo. The response would be "No, you chose to feel X (whatever: offended, angry, hurt, offended, sad, offended, or offended, for example)." People were starting to understand they didn't have to feel negative emotions when someone said or did something nasty—they didn't have to "make the decision" to feel bad and react negatively. To respond negatively to someone's provocation was to hand control of yourself over to them, to let them decide how you felt. Maybe I'm wrong, and it was just my bubble of experience, but it seemed like people were starting grasp this idea generally. And that was a good thing. Owning one's feelings is healthy, much healthier than handing over control of them along with your well-being to others.
Lately, there has been some kind of social movement in the direction of taking no responsibility whatsoever for one's emotions: a total hand off, and it's done openly and without a hint of recognition an individual might actually be responsible for his or her own feelings. It seems people have come to accept this is the new normal.
The movement appears to be attached to latest iteration of feminism, third-wave feminism, and it has worked its way from college campuses into popular culture. The constant refrain from those who have no responsibility for their feelings is "trigger" and "triggering." Triggering is when someone does or says something that "causes" another's negative emotions, and a trigger is a particular word or act that "causes" negative emotions. And apparently anything can be a trigger. Christina Hoff Sommers recently triggered many people simply by making a speech at Oberlin College, for example. Those who had no responsibility for their emotions were forced to create "safe rooms" where they could seek reassurance from others who had no responsibility for their emotions.
The thing is, triggering is a valid concept in psychology and counseling. But it has been swiped and used inappropriately.
The area I'm familiar with is Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), but it's a useful concept in other areas, like PTSD. DID is what used to be called "multiple personality disorder." Years ago I married a woman with DID. She was high functioning, but under stress, she started switching alters (terms of art). In other words, she started changing personalities. I didn't know it at the time, so the behavior appeared either deliberate and purely evil, or it was some form of extreme psychosis. I didn't know. I couldn't tell. This is where a little knowledge on my part would have gone a long way.* It turns out I was triggering her. I know this in retrospect, having put the pieces together in the time since. I'm the one who increased her stress. My stark reactions to her behavior made her switching worse. I was, frankly, scared out of my wits, and my honest what the hell? responses were damaging. I was a machine gun of triggers. Worst of all, I eventually brought out her protection alters. These personalities will defend the ego at any cost. They lack empathy and, indeed, appear sociopathic. They have to. They have a job to do.
*She didn't tell me. Knowing what was going on—knowing about DID and triggering—would have allowed me to respond properly. The right way is to a) be attuned to the possibility of a switch and b) be polite and respectful when one arises and kindly explain to the "new personality" things like where you are, how you got there and, most importantly, that everything is okay. Here's an example of when this would have been helpful: she switched in a grocery store checkout line once. She suddenly appeared surprised and bewildered to be standing there. She seemed amazed at her clothes. I didn't know what was going on, but at least I didn't say anything that time. My private reaction: "What the hell was that?" The best reaction would have been something like, "Hi, hon. We stopped by here on the way home from work. So glad it's Friday. I'm looking forward to the cookout tonight." Another thing caring family members and friends can do is develop a mental list of potential triggers and try to avoid them. The point is, this is what the the concept of "triggering" is all about. This is who triggering is for. It's for people who have serious medical issues. It's not about the New Victorians and things that make them uncomfy, even if they do get the vapours on occasion. The concept of triggering is for those who are close to a person who is hurting: family members, close friends, and mental health professionals. It is for when you are knowingly dealing with someone who has a problem. If you know a topic, a word, or an image that might cause someone difficulty, you can avoid it. Accordingly, trigger warnings are for known situations where sufferers might encounter common triggers, like if you're conducting a seminar for people with PTSD or writing a book for people with DID. Triggering is not a concern for the general public. You and I do not have to worry about triggering some unknown person. There is no way to trigger-proof our entire culture on the chance you might affect a stranger with an emotional or mental problem. And there is absolutely no need to worry about triggering Social Justice Warrior snowflakes and prudes. No one has to walk on eggshells around them. They need to learn to own their feelings. Speech police types who use triggering improperly to shut down speech are misguided. Opposing political views should be discussed. Comedy does not have to be anodyne. Stories and movies need not be bland, and we do not need to live in a way that kowtows to those with aggressively delicate sensibilities. Unless you're dealing with a family member or a friend who has a real problem, say what you want to say. Don't allow the speech police to make fun, free expression taboo. Maybe owning our feelings should become a thing again.(If you have any questions or comments you want me to address, use Twitter, or write them in comments and point them out to me on Twitter. Pixy still hasn't unblocked my IP address. I'm at @rdbrewer4.)
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:34 AM (7ObY1)
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i am a trigger......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 09:37 AM (0O7c5)
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Hell of a movie.
Posted by: @JohnTant at May 13, 2015 09:38 AM (PFy0L)
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Isn't a right not to be offended in the Constitution?
Posted by: Social justice warrior at May 13, 2015 09:38 AM (1sJza)
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OK, snark aside. This whole "triggering" thing is an implicit suggestion that people have no agency. They can't be expected to control themselves. And that's a pretty damned bleak assessment of people.
Posted by: @JohnTant at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (PFy0L)
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It makes me feel safe to crush my enemies -- See them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation
of their women!
of their women!
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (4CRfK)
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Isn't a right not to be offended in the Constitution?
Damned straight, it's right there in the First Amendment. Tea Partiers should not just celebrate the Constitution, they should also read it.
Damned straight, it's right there in the First Amendment. Tea Partiers should not just celebrate the Constitution, they should also read it.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (PFy0L)
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Eloi will be the undoing of this country.
Mark my words, when the meek inherit the reins of power in our country (and I think they have) the rotary oscillator is going to go to Plaid speed slinging poo.
Mark my words, when the meek inherit the reins of power in our country (and I think they have) the rotary oscillator is going to go to Plaid speed slinging poo.
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 13, 2015 09:42 AM (4CRfK)
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What the hell was that and where am I? and if I hadnt read the post i coulda' been foist.
Posted by: Just sayin' at May 13, 2015 09:42 AM (LrSoh)
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5 OK, snark aside. This whole "triggering" thing is an implicit suggestion that people have no agency. They can't be expected to control themselves. And that's a pretty damned bleak assessment of people.
Yep, part and parcel with the infantilization of America and the Victim Culture.
Yep, part and parcel with the infantilization of America and the Victim Culture.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:43 AM (7ObY1)
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Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
Sticks and stone can break your bones but words can never hurt you.
Sticks and stone can break your bones but words can never hurt you.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 13, 2015 09:43 AM (81UWZ)
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I fart in your general direction.
Posted by: Breakfast Burrito at May 13, 2015 09:44 AM (UzPAd)
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I think the word "triggering" may cause negative feelings in those traumatized by gun violence (or reports of others traumatized by gun violence) and should be banned.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 13, 2015 09:44 AM (O7MnT)
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Even my kids think this is some of the dumbest shit ever, and that these people are pathetic.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 13, 2015 09:45 AM (2Ojst)
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Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
Sticks and stone can break your bones but words can never hurt you.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 13, 2015 09:43 AM (81UWZ)
Exactly. and that's why we used sticks and stones.
Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
Sticks and stone can break your bones but words can never hurt you.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 13, 2015 09:43 AM (81UWZ)
Exactly. and that's why we used sticks and stones.
Posted by: Just sayin' at May 13, 2015 09:45 AM (LrSoh)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 09:45 AM (95CzI)
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Seems I have read that many of the feral youths will kill if they feel, "dissed." Aaron Hernandez killed 2 people because he was disrespected by them accidnently spilling a drink on him and not doing enough groveling. That's a hairpin trigger.
Posted by: Madamex at May 13, 2015 09:45 AM (yoxJL)
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11 Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
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At some point, it was decided that the most neurotically hypersensitive people in society should set the baseline for all behavior.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur's 1911A1 at May 13, 2015 09:47 AM (lpeQC)
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I have a 100% cure for bubble-wrapped infantilized miserable wretches.
Posted by: Airburst EMP - Western Hemisphere at May 13, 2015 09:47 AM (4V4gl)
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The fellow writing at "Townhall" is probably not very sympathetic to people traumatized by triggering.
"Speak Free or die":
http://tinyurl.com/ocgaupp
"Speak Free or die":
http://tinyurl.com/ocgaupp
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 09:47 AM (1sJza)
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Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 13, 2015 09:48 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 13, 2015 09:48 AM (kff5f)
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18 11 Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
"Stop crying, or I'll really give you something to cry about!"
-- Krebs' father
18 11 Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
"Stop crying, or I'll really give you something to cry about!"
-- Krebs' father
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 09:48 AM (95CzI)
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It's part of the Special Snowflake culture. These assholes have never had to take responsibility for anything. They were catered to by their parents, then schools and now they expect us to cater to their every little whim and feeling.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 13, 2015 09:48 AM (oZe0I)
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Two points of commonality in all things liberal are 'not my fault' and 'I am the superior being'.
It's not my fault when things go wrong, it's not my fault when I am all emotional and out of control, it's not my decisions.
And I am the superior person, better educated, smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable, and I know the way to Utopia if you will just do what I tell you to do.
If something goes wrong, you must have cause it.
It's not my fault when things go wrong, it's not my fault when I am all emotional and out of control, it's not my decisions.
And I am the superior person, better educated, smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable, and I know the way to Utopia if you will just do what I tell you to do.
If something goes wrong, you must have cause it.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (aspIq)
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This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
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11 Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry
about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
LOL! heard that a number of times. And no apologies. My dad, when confronted with the fact that I MAY not have committed the sin he swatted me, for would say. "that's for what I didn't catch you doing."Couldn't argue with that.
11 Owning your feelings lesson from my youth.
"You want something to cry about? I'll give you something to cry
about." - Citizen X's Dad, who did not raise any special snowflakes
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
LOL! heard that a number of times. And no apologies. My dad, when confronted with the fact that I MAY not have committed the sin he swatted me, for would say. "that's for what I didn't catch you doing."Couldn't argue with that.
Posted by: Just sayin' at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (LrSoh)
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OK, snark aside. This whole "triggering" thing is an implicit suggestion that people have no agency. They can't be expected to control themselves. And that's a pretty damned bleak assessment of people.
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Related: Yesterday evening a violinist who was on the Amtrak train tweeted, from the scene shortly after the derailment, an impatient tweet along the lines of 'OK Amtrak, you've derailed my train, but I need to get into the car to get my violin.' I can't recall if she used the Amtrak hashtag or not.
I saw the tweet RTd into my timeline and then the twitter shaming began. (I didn't join in.)
That led to the usual second level twitter shaming of the twitter shamers by people who were ashamed.
Oh, and the violinist deleted her acct.
Anyway, it occurs to me that self-control is completely out the window these days.
I would tend to lay it more on the violinist than the others. If she was at the scene and shouted a comment like that, I think (hope?) people would turn to her and say, "hey, gal, get some perspective." I certainly would.
People don't see their social media postings done under their own picture and name/bio as "public." But, really, tweeting out to the entire world that way is akin to shouting, imho.
I don't know what parents have been doing for the past twenty years, but the results blow chunks. So that's why the Twitter Shaming happens... because apparently the family and friends of people have been doing a lousy job.
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Related: Yesterday evening a violinist who was on the Amtrak train tweeted, from the scene shortly after the derailment, an impatient tweet along the lines of 'OK Amtrak, you've derailed my train, but I need to get into the car to get my violin.' I can't recall if she used the Amtrak hashtag or not.
I saw the tweet RTd into my timeline and then the twitter shaming began. (I didn't join in.)
That led to the usual second level twitter shaming of the twitter shamers by people who were ashamed.
Oh, and the violinist deleted her acct.
Anyway, it occurs to me that self-control is completely out the window these days.
I would tend to lay it more on the violinist than the others. If she was at the scene and shouted a comment like that, I think (hope?) people would turn to her and say, "hey, gal, get some perspective." I certainly would.
People don't see their social media postings done under their own picture and name/bio as "public." But, really, tweeting out to the entire world that way is akin to shouting, imho.
I don't know what parents have been doing for the past twenty years, but the results blow chunks. So that's why the Twitter Shaming happens... because apparently the family and friends of people have been doing a lousy job.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (RWGcK)
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It's not my fault when things go wrong, it's not my fault when I am all emotional and out of control, it's not my decisions.
And I am the superior person, better educated, smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable, and I know the way to Utopia if you will just do what I tell you to do.
If something goes wrong, you must have cause it.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (aspIq)
That's Third Wave Feminism in a nutshell.
And I am the superior person, better educated, smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable, and I know the way to Utopia if you will just do what I tell you to do.
If something goes wrong, you must have cause it.
Posted by: Barlow Dondabiter at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (aspIq)
That's Third Wave Feminism in a nutshell.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (2Ojst)
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Speech police types who use triggering improperly to shut down speech are misguided.
Moreover and more importantly, infringing on the rights of majority.
Moreover and more importantly, infringing on the rights of majority.
Posted by: Wendy at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (bpemY)
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Trigger Warning! OT- got willowed answering someone looking for smoker reviews in the last thread. This guy has some good recipes too.
http://amazingribs.com/bbq_equipment_reviews_ratings/reviews_ratings
http://amazingribs.com/bbq_equipment_reviews_ratings/reviews_ratings
Posted by: dartist at May 13, 2015 09:51 AM (ahBY0)
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This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
yes.....this explains it perfectly
This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
yes.....this explains it perfectly
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 09:51 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Zombie Roy Rogers at May 13, 2015 09:51 AM (0FSuD)
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When I hear the word "trigger", I reach for my gun.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 09:51 AM (zoehZ)
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Is doing that thing in your mouth a trigger?
Posted by: Roy at May 13, 2015 09:51 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 09:52 AM (sWgE+)
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http://tinyurl.com/nr363c4
Posted by: Zombie Roy Rogers at May 13, 2015 09:52 AM (0FSuD)
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Where do these delicate flowers live? I never encounter them in meatspace, which is all to the good I guess, as their complaints would be met with the almost certainly triggering jerking off motion, or the Jersey Crotchgrab I got your trigger ritecheer.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 13, 2015 09:52 AM (evdj2)
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These "special snowflakes" have found a way to be the center of attention. These gals were NEVER the sought after girls in high school. They were NEVER considered part of the "in crowd". However....they HAVE found a way to be noticed and the center of attention, no matter that the attention seems weird and negative to us. In their world, the attention is all good! The crazier you act, the more attention you GET! It's working out well for them. This crazy behavior also has the added benefit of insulating them from any questions about why they are alone romantically. Why men aren't interested.....They don't WANT to be around guys!11!11! Eleventy!!!
Posted by: TX ette at May 13, 2015 09:53 AM (sUJHF)
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Avoid FOMO. Become a #Hillary2016 founding donor before this window closes
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Dah Fuq is FOMO???
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Proposed re-education camp in the Nevada badlands.
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Dah Fuq is FOMO???
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Proposed re-education camp in the Nevada badlands.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (ee9LE)
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I guess my response has always been get the fk over it.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (iQIUe)
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>>Where do these delicate flowers live? I never encounter them in meatspace
Wow, you're lucky. Almost every 40+ year old workplace manager and above person I know has a slew of them in their offices.
Wow, you're lucky. Almost every 40+ year old workplace manager and above person I know has a slew of them in their offices.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (RWGcK)
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I've said before, the many members of the Special Snowflake generation that I have encountered seem to be obsessed by the idea of a zombie apocalypse.
Some even wonder aloud as to what special skills they possess that would enable them to survive this event. My thoughts - kept to myself at that moment of pathetic candor - turn to, "Your value to your clan will be as a means of exchange -- food, weapons or booze in exchange for uour sexual services... and that's about it!"
I've said before, the many members of the Special Snowflake generation that I have encountered seem to be obsessed by the idea of a zombie apocalypse.
Some even wonder aloud as to what special skills they possess that would enable them to survive this event. My thoughts - kept to myself at that moment of pathetic candor - turn to, "Your value to your clan will be as a means of exchange -- food, weapons or booze in exchange for uour sexual services... and that's about it!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (95CzI)
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38 salma hayek triggers me
http://tinyurl.com/ltebp64
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 09:52 AM (sWgE+)
she looks chilly
http://tinyurl.com/ltebp64
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 09:52 AM (sWgE+)
she looks chilly
Posted by: MikeH at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (/2E+M)
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Ok, so this whole "triggering", Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) thang can be filed under-
bitchez be crazy.
Amirite, fellas?
Okay, seriously though I'm thinking this is a way for fymynysts-
to get their "N-word".
Oh, I know they keep trying to establish an "n-word" but it doesn't stick becuz bitchez be crazy.
"Triggering" however gets around that whole "n-word" kerfuffle by taking whole subjects into the realm of outrage by their mere mention.
Unless, they are amount the like-minded in "a safe space".
You know, like a white guy saying the "n-word" versus a black guy using the "n-word" every freaking minute of his life.
That's all this is at heart-
"N-word" envy.
A question for you Freudians out there:
Does "n-word" envy now replace 'penis-envy" for the ladies?
bitchez be crazy.
Amirite, fellas?
Okay, seriously though I'm thinking this is a way for fymynysts-
to get their "N-word".
Oh, I know they keep trying to establish an "n-word" but it doesn't stick becuz bitchez be crazy.
"Triggering" however gets around that whole "n-word" kerfuffle by taking whole subjects into the realm of outrage by their mere mention.
Unless, they are amount the like-minded in "a safe space".
You know, like a white guy saying the "n-word" versus a black guy using the "n-word" every freaking minute of his life.
That's all this is at heart-
"N-word" envy.
A question for you Freudians out there:
Does "n-word" envy now replace 'penis-envy" for the ladies?
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 09:55 AM (KUa85)
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Very interesting piece! I have never actually seen a dissociative disorder... although we do know they exist.
One thing though, what would give anyone any impression that "owning one's own feelings" used to be a thing? It's pretty much ALL that goes on in therapy these days, because everyone is doing CBT, and that's pretty much CBT in a nutshell.
Not psychiatry, of course, but actual therapists. Yeah. It's THE thing.
One thing though, what would give anyone any impression that "owning one's own feelings" used to be a thing? It's pretty much ALL that goes on in therapy these days, because everyone is doing CBT, and that's pretty much CBT in a nutshell.
Not psychiatry, of course, but actual therapists. Yeah. It's THE thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2015 09:55 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 09:55 AM (sWgE+)
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Almost every 40+ year old workplace manager and above person I know has a slew of them in their offices.
Really? They would be laughed at here at this hospital system, and told to Get back to work, drone.
Really? They would be laughed at here at this hospital system, and told to Get back to work, drone.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 13, 2015 09:56 AM (evdj2)
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I don't think it's a coincidence that a fair number of famous feminist icons have had well-diagnosed mental health problems. They often cite them in their bios as examples of overcoming adversity.
I don't think it's a coincidence that a fair number of famous feminist icons have had well-diagnosed mental health problems. They often cite them in their bios as examples of overcoming adversity.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:56 AM (lpeQC)
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These snowflakes just THINK that they are special!
Posted by: Narcissistic personality disorder at May 13, 2015 09:56 AM (4V4gl)
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It just displays to victim mentality to its fullest. You aren't responsible for anything to include your own feelings.
Posted by: no good deed at May 13, 2015 09:56 AM (GgxVX)
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. because apparently the family and friends of people have been doing a lousy job.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (RWGcK)
unless you tell the kids they are so wonderful...so intelligent...give them their participation awards...make everyone a winner.....and give them everything they want as soon as they want it...you are failing as a parent in the eyes of the triggered and society which is ironically beginning to trigger me.....what was that movie with michael douglas? boy was he triggered....back when it wasn't celebrated......
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (RWGcK)
unless you tell the kids they are so wonderful...so intelligent...give them their participation awards...make everyone a winner.....and give them everything they want as soon as they want it...you are failing as a parent in the eyes of the triggered and society which is ironically beginning to trigger me.....what was that movie with michael douglas? boy was he triggered....back when it wasn't celebrated......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 09:56 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Mendoza with a 5-gallon bucket at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (NeFrd)
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When these kids had tantrums as toddlers, instead of getting sent to their rooms or spanked, their parents sat them down and said, "Now, I understand you're feeeeeeeeling this way and lets talk about how to fix that."
No surprise they grew into brats.
No surprise they grew into brats.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (oZe0I)
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Wasn't "triggering" aka "button pushing" at one point?
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (3ZtZW)
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"Your value to your clan will be as a means of exchange -- food, weapons or booze in exchange for your sexual services... and that's about it!"
Blubber will be of some value in the Burning Time.
Blubber will be of some value in the Burning Time.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (evdj2)
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Ha, I guess growing up in the 90s profoundly impacted my parenting because I totally use the "no, you choose to feel X" with my kids.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (MYCIw)
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I got your trigger right here.
Today is the anniversary, 30 years to the day, of the Operation MOVE bombing in Philadelphia. Not hearing Mayor Nutter mention that. No connection.
Today is the anniversary, 30 years to the day, of the Operation MOVE bombing in Philadelphia. Not hearing Mayor Nutter mention that. No connection.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 13, 2015 09:57 AM (xq1UY)
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The Left always misuses words to their advantage. Think a chap named Orwell talked about it.
Gay used to mean bon vivant for example.
Gay used to mean bon vivant for example.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:58 AM (V8fhv)
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didn't know. I couldn't tell. This is where a little knowledge on my part would have gone a long way.
I know exactly what you mean. It took me over 20 years of dealing with a extremely difficult person before I finally simply threw my hands up and told her to 'get the f*ck out of my house'. I knew of Aspergers, I knew of savant syndrome. Never thought the two could combine. They do, they did.
I took her totally inappropriate and hateful words at face value, which caused me stress and interfered in my marriage. It wasn't me. It was her. She had absolutely no control mechanism.
I don't know the moral is of my story. Possibly that humans run a continuum between perfectly normal and all screwed up. If you let the people who are all screwed up into your life, and they start dictating to you and others the 'rules' and how you should lead your life you have two options:
1. Lead a hellish existence
2. Show them the door (with or without obscenity)
I know exactly what you mean. It took me over 20 years of dealing with a extremely difficult person before I finally simply threw my hands up and told her to 'get the f*ck out of my house'. I knew of Aspergers, I knew of savant syndrome. Never thought the two could combine. They do, they did.
I took her totally inappropriate and hateful words at face value, which caused me stress and interfered in my marriage. It wasn't me. It was her. She had absolutely no control mechanism.
I don't know the moral is of my story. Possibly that humans run a continuum between perfectly normal and all screwed up. If you let the people who are all screwed up into your life, and they start dictating to you and others the 'rules' and how you should lead your life you have two options:
1. Lead a hellish existence
2. Show them the door (with or without obscenity)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 09:58 AM (xQX/f)
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I've said before, the many members of the Special Snowflake generation that I have encountered seem to be obsessed by the idea of a zombie apocalypse.
Some even wonder aloud as to what special skills they possess that would enable them to survive this event. My thoughts - kept to myself at that moment of pathetic candor - turn to, "Your value to your clan will be as a means of exchange -- food, weapons or booze in exchange for uour sexual services... and that's about it!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (95CzI)
Rule #1: Cardio
I've said before, the many members of the Special Snowflake generation that I have encountered seem to be obsessed by the idea of a zombie apocalypse.
Some even wonder aloud as to what special skills they possess that would enable them to survive this event. My thoughts - kept to myself at that moment of pathetic candor - turn to, "Your value to your clan will be as a means of exchange -- food, weapons or booze in exchange for uour sexual services... and that's about it!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 09:54 AM (95CzI)
Rule #1: Cardio
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2015 09:58 AM (lpeQC)
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To summarize, rdbrewer was married to Sybil.
In Victorian times, the cure for the vapours was an orgasm. Or maybe it was leeches. I forget.
In Victorian times, the cure for the vapours was an orgasm. Or maybe it was leeches. I forget.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 13, 2015 09:58 AM (FuZHr)
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Back when I was prosecuting sex offenses, a victim had it. The public defender, a chick, tore her apart on the stand at preliminary hearing. After that she didn't want to play any more and I pled the case away to practically nothing.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 09:59 AM (ee9LE)
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PG - "If everybody is special, then nobody is special," said Dash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:59 AM (V8fhv)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 13, 2015 10:00 AM (95CzI)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 13, 2015 10:01 AM (evdj2)
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"Speech police types who use triggering improperly to shut down speech are misguided."
Moreover and more importantly, infringing on the rights of majority.
Posted by: Wendy at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (bpemY)
There is nothing 'misguided' about SJW's using this triggering canard as a way to shut down free speech since the word 'misguided' implies they don't know what they're doing. I argue they know exactly what they're doing. They're employing a deliberate, calculated technique, a strategy, a weapon to stifle opposing ideas and it originated with those same assholes in academia who have been plaguing us for decades now.
Moreover and more importantly, infringing on the rights of majority.
Posted by: Wendy at May 13, 2015 09:50 AM (bpemY)
There is nothing 'misguided' about SJW's using this triggering canard as a way to shut down free speech since the word 'misguided' implies they don't know what they're doing. I argue they know exactly what they're doing. They're employing a deliberate, calculated technique, a strategy, a weapon to stifle opposing ideas and it originated with those same assholes in academia who have been plaguing us for decades now.
Posted by: troyriser at May 13, 2015 10:01 AM (gJU39)
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The thing is, triggering is a valid concept in psychology and counseling. But it has been swiped and used inappropriately.
Like all manner of '-phobias?'
Like all manner of '-phobias?'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 13, 2015 10:02 AM (oVJmc)
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There will be no upsetting of the other patients in a nanny state. Have you never read One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest?
Posted by: JohnJ at May 13, 2015 10:02 AM (TF/YA)
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No kidding, Lauren. I tell my son "only you can control you" all the time. I also tell him bad things happen. The only thing you can control is your response to them. I expect CPS to knock on my door any day now. :/
Posted by: no good deed at May 13, 2015 10:02 AM (GgxVX)
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I remember "own your feelings". It was crap. Well actually to be specific it was taken to an extreme and abused (pattern much?) as an excuse to shed responsibility for being an asshole to people. Now it's the other extreme with similarly bad results.
It's in-between yo. Take charge of your life but be mindful of how things affect others. Instead we have a no-agency no-consequences world view that's causing society to disintegrate around us. Pathetic.
It's in-between yo. Take charge of your life but be mindful of how things affect others. Instead we have a no-agency no-consequences world view that's causing society to disintegrate around us. Pathetic.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:03 AM (DT3rQ)
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To declare something triggering, is to declare dominance and the right to censor and destroy the "other."
Posted by: Hat #011 at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (2l+KS)
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I first saw "trigger warning" pop up among mommy bloggers about 10 years ago whenever they were about to discuss a miscarriage or stillbirth or something like that.
Now the special snowflake brigade yelps about the lack of a "trigger warning" on a post about circumcision or vaccination.
Now the special snowflake brigade yelps about the lack of a "trigger warning" on a post about circumcision or vaccination.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (MYCIw)
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Just checking in:
Trigger warnings....
Hmmm, sounds like a bunch of hyperventilating panzies. Try to avoid their shit. I do have a cure for these cupcakes.
Bootcamp.
Trigger warnings....
Hmmm, sounds like a bunch of hyperventilating panzies. Try to avoid their shit. I do have a cure for these cupcakes.
Bootcamp.
Posted by: fairweatherbill at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (o/3Hk)
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I think there is another side to the concept of triggering, and that is expectations. If one has been raised with an expectation of having things handed to you on a platter (e.g. BMW for your fifteenth birthday) a disconnect between cause and effect develops. When this type of expectation comes up against real life, it is scary and most certainly "can't be my fault", therefore somebody or something else must be to blame. The quest to pin the blame on 'other' then induces the so-called triggering.
TL
R version=> Life isn't easy, get over yourself.
TL
R version=> Life isn't easy, get over yourself. Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (NeFrd)
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PG - "If everybody is special, then nobody is special," said Dash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:59 AM (V8fhv)
preach it dash!
PG - "If everybody is special, then nobody is special," said Dash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 09:59 AM (V8fhv)
preach it dash!
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2015 10:05 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:05 AM (MYCIw)
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Here's a soothing soundtrack to fall to sleep by.
composed by a noted fymynyst icon
when all the day's triggering is simply to much for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
t=11&v=Qov83bKiLzM
You're welcome!
composed by a noted fymynyst icon
when all the day's triggering is simply to much for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
t=11&v=Qov83bKiLzM
You're welcome!
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 10:05 AM (KUa85)
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Nice article, rdbrewer.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 13, 2015 10:06 AM (/Ho8c)
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In Victorian times, the cure for the vapours was an orgasm. Or maybe it was leeches. I forget.
****
I admit-- I LOL'ed.
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I admit-- I LOL'ed.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:06 AM (NeFrd)
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Good article, though 
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:06 AM (DT3rQ)
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Not many shadows in the painting, and monochromatic pallet.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 10:06 AM (xQX/f)
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Hang on, testing
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:07 AM (DT3rQ)
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So where the fuck do I or my family go when we wake up every morning wondering how we will be left vulnerable again?
Where are we to go when we lose sleep at night over if we are going to make ends meet while the welfare bunch down the street with their 6 fucking kids stroll around without a care in the world?
Where do regular Americans go with REAL problems that feel 'triggered'?
What a steaming pile of fucking shit.
You want trigger issues, snowflakes? Try working 3 jobs and putting yourSELF through school at night. That 'busy' schedule you have now will look like a vacation.
You don't like something? Suck it up pussies. The world is full of hurt and wrong. Be thankful you are in a part of the world that is (for now) a civilized society.
So fed up with this shit
Where are we to go when we lose sleep at night over if we are going to make ends meet while the welfare bunch down the street with their 6 fucking kids stroll around without a care in the world?
Where do regular Americans go with REAL problems that feel 'triggered'?
What a steaming pile of fucking shit.
You want trigger issues, snowflakes? Try working 3 jobs and putting yourSELF through school at night. That 'busy' schedule you have now will look like a vacation.
You don't like something? Suck it up pussies. The world is full of hurt and wrong. Be thankful you are in a part of the world that is (for now) a civilized society.
So fed up with this shit
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 13, 2015 10:07 AM (MV2jA)
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It's in-between yo. Take charge of your life but be mindful of how things affect others. Instead we have a no-agency no-consequences world view that's causing society to disintegrate around us. Pathetic.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:03 AM
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THIS.
It is scary how quickly our society has deteriorated.
In the mornings with our coffee we watch Unsolved Mysteries. (Cheesetastic, I know! Don't be a hater.) Usually there are some stories about people who are trying to find strangers who touched their lives. Today it was a gal who was in a very bad car accident - now paralyzed - trying to find the men who pulled her from the burning car. You can tell it happened in the early 80s based on the hairstyles of the folks being interviewed.
Today the passersby would be more likely to take a selfie in front of the burning wreck or tweet "I need to get to my violin concert!" instead of rescuing the woman.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:03 AM
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THIS.
It is scary how quickly our society has deteriorated.
In the mornings with our coffee we watch Unsolved Mysteries. (Cheesetastic, I know! Don't be a hater.) Usually there are some stories about people who are trying to find strangers who touched their lives. Today it was a gal who was in a very bad car accident - now paralyzed - trying to find the men who pulled her from the burning car. You can tell it happened in the early 80s based on the hairstyles of the folks being interviewed.
Today the passersby would be more likely to take a selfie in front of the burning wreck or tweet "I need to get to my violin concert!" instead of rescuing the woman.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:07 AM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:07 AM (DT3rQ)
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Trigger warning are triggering.
You are just oppressing us (for we are a "multiple" with various headmates)!!1!
You are just oppressing us (for we are a "multiple" with various headmates)!!1!
Posted by: The Triggered Hat at May 13, 2015 10:08 AM (2l+KS)
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Thanks, rdbrewer, this is a really great piece.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 10:08 AM (DGFgt)
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And if you want to know why parenting is really broken, let me give you the sequential headlines on Yahoo right now.
1) How two single moms created a family
2) Conservatives say marriage has always been between a man and a woman. They're wrong.
3) The day my toddler broke me
1) How two single moms created a family
2) Conservatives say marriage has always been between a man and a woman. They're wrong.
3) The day my toddler broke me
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:08 AM (MYCIw)
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It is scary how quickly our society has deteriorated.
It's been going on for some time. It's just now impossible not to see as it begins terminal descent.
It's been going on for some time. It's just now impossible not to see as it begins terminal descent.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (DT3rQ)
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*pauses* The Reyna story... the iWatch.. another transportee ... yeah was a whiny modern trigger fearing femnyst... but dang it she was Reyna's only other human companion... and the crazed 'raptor ate her. So got regretful motivation
Reyna screaming, "She was weak and whiny but she was the only other human! Now die you lizard!"
Reyna screaming, "She was weak and whiny but she was the only other human! Now die you lizard!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (V8fhv)
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You hurt my feelings (sticks out lower lip).
Posted by: That whiny kid on Ally McBeal at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (ILfVM)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (KUa85)
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I'm gonna trigger your dental plan!
Posted by: The Pig Burger at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (bFMTH)
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My husband works in higher ed. He once had to tell a 27-year-old pre-med student that one of her courses from another college wouldn't transfer and she would have to take the course again to get credit. She broke down crying and whimpered, "This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
o_O
o_O
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:10 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 10:10 AM (KUa85)
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So, basically, all these SJW's who bemoan and complain of triggers are, in fact, mentally ill?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 13, 2015 10:10 AM (vg8iE)
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How will people who need safe zones function in the real world, after college?
Should be fun times for future bosses and co-workers.
Should be fun times for future bosses and co-workers.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:10 AM (MQEz6)
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I read the LI article. The scrawled warning posted next to the sign showing the Georgetown classroom named after a woman who let her daughter be lobotomized for expressing her sexuality was amusing.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:11 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2015 10:11 AM (9OgGE)
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She broke down crying and whimpered, "This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
Life's hard. It's harder when you're stupid.
Life's hard. It's harder when you're stupid.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:11 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:11 AM (MYCIw)
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A Goldsmiths University diversity officer who has faced accusations of racism after banning white people from an event has struck back with a bold claim: It’s literally impossible for a minority woman like herself to be racist.
WTH? That chick is whiter than I am.
WTH? That chick is whiter than I am.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 13, 2015 10:11 AM (evdj2)
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"How will people who need safe zones function in the real world, after college"
Safe zones will be mandated by OSHA in the future, much like lactation rooms are now mandated by HHS.
Safe zones will be mandated by OSHA in the future, much like lactation rooms are now mandated by HHS.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 13, 2015 10:12 AM (vg8iE)
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I first saw "trigger warning" pop up among mommy bloggers about 10 years ago whenever they were about to discuss a miscarriage or stillbirth or something like that.
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It's interesting tracking when these phrases become mainstreamed.
I can recall exactly when/where I first heard "politically correct." (In the mid-80s from a friend who went to Berkeley.)
Now this "trigger warning" thing -- and "micro aggression."
My husband had a co-worker refer (sympathetically) to the "micro aggression" he must be subjected to in all seriousness just last week.
I think if people would spend less time coming up with cutesy phrases to describe things and more time being attentive, respectful, and considerate, we'd be better off.
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It's interesting tracking when these phrases become mainstreamed.
I can recall exactly when/where I first heard "politically correct." (In the mid-80s from a friend who went to Berkeley.)
Now this "trigger warning" thing -- and "micro aggression."
My husband had a co-worker refer (sympathetically) to the "micro aggression" he must be subjected to in all seriousness just last week.
I think if people would spend less time coming up with cutesy phrases to describe things and more time being attentive, respectful, and considerate, we'd be better off.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:12 AM (RWGcK)
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76 Just checking in:
Trigger warnings....
Hmmm, sounds like a bunch of hyperventilating panzies. Try to avoid their shit. I do have a cure for these cupcakes.
Bootcamp.
Posted by: fairweatherbill at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (o/3Hk)
I propose a new word: Panzis.
Trigger warnings....
Hmmm, sounds like a bunch of hyperventilating panzies. Try to avoid their shit. I do have a cure for these cupcakes.
Bootcamp.
Posted by: fairweatherbill at May 13, 2015 10:04 AM (o/3Hk)
I propose a new word: Panzis.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:12 AM (zoehZ)
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Suck it up, buttercup.
Posted by: A quivering , partially liquified mound of jello at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (4V4gl)
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All "trigger-free" "safe space" areas should be referred to henceforth as "tard zones". Anyone complaining should then be punched in the face. Anyone complaining about getting punched in the face should get punched in the face again.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (DT3rQ)
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"This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
Ahh.
Well, I predict an interesting and very challenging life for you.
Ahh.
Well, I predict an interesting and very challenging life for you.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (KUa85)
Posted by: dartist at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (ahBY0)
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You hurt my feelings (sticks out lower lip).
Posted by: That whiny kid on Ally McBeal at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (ILfVM)
Lower lips trigger me you oppressive s**tlord!!1!
Posted by: That whiny kid on Ally McBeal at May 13, 2015 10:09 AM (ILfVM)
Lower lips trigger me you oppressive s**tlord!!1!
Posted by: Lipps, LLC at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (2l+KS)
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She broke down crying and whimpered, "This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
*FWEEET*
15 yards, privilege-flaunting.
*FWEEET*
15 yards, privilege-flaunting.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (ZKzrr)
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"This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
The Golden Child Syndrome creates this. Which worked out so well for Scott Peterson. Not so much for his wife and unborn child. Would have cramped his life so he disposed of them.
The Golden Child Syndrome creates this. Which worked out so well for Scott Peterson. Not so much for his wife and unborn child. Would have cramped his life so he disposed of them.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:13 AM (V8fhv)
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I am a trigger and I'm proud
I use to feel left out in a crowd
but now you look around these days
and it seems theres a trigger CRAZE
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger
wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger
if you have a trigger you're a trigger too!
us triggers are an interesting breed
an original idea is what we need
ask any trigger and they'll say "only a trigger feels this way"
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
be a trigger act like a trigger! come on!
I use to feel left out in a crowd
but now you look around these days
and it seems theres a trigger CRAZE
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger
wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger
if you have a trigger you're a trigger too!
us triggers are an interesting breed
an original idea is what we need
ask any trigger and they'll say "only a trigger feels this way"
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
I'm a trigger he's a trigger she's a trigger we're a trigger wouldn't you like to be a trigger too?
be a trigger act like a trigger! come on!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 13, 2015 10:14 AM (zRby/)
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All "trigger-free" "safe space" areas should be referred to henceforth as "tard zones".
Seconded.
Seconded.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 13, 2015 10:14 AM (O7MnT)
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How will people who need safe zones function in the real world, after college?
Should be fun times for future bosses and co-workers.
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This is already happening.
Talk about "triggers." If an employee uses certain phrases to describe a workplace conflict, it quickly turns into an HR nightmare.
Should be fun times for future bosses and co-workers.
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This is already happening.
Talk about "triggers." If an employee uses certain phrases to describe a workplace conflict, it quickly turns into an HR nightmare.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:14 AM (RWGcK)
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"This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
Wow, and I thought I had it easy.
What a bunch of pansies.
"This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my whole life."
Wow, and I thought I had it easy.
What a bunch of pansies.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 13, 2015 10:14 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: The Barrel at May 13, 2015 10:14 AM (/Ho8c)
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73 I remember "own your feelings". It was crap. Well actually to be specific it was taken to an extreme and abused (pattern much?) as an excuse to shed responsibility for being an asshole to people. Now it's the other extreme with similarly bad results.
It's in-between yo. Take charge of your life but be mindful of how things affect others. Instead we have a no-agency no-consequences world view that's causing society to disintegrate around us. Pathetic.
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Yes! My dad went through an asshole stage with "own your feelings".
"You can choose not to be upset that I left you waiting at RiverCenter for three hours after I agreed to meet you and didn't pick up my phone in that entire time. It's not my fault you chose to assume that I had been in an accident".
It's in-between yo. Take charge of your life but be mindful of how things affect others. Instead we have a no-agency no-consequences world view that's causing society to disintegrate around us. Pathetic.
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Yes! My dad went through an asshole stage with "own your feelings".
"You can choose not to be upset that I left you waiting at RiverCenter for three hours after I agreed to meet you and didn't pick up my phone in that entire time. It's not my fault you chose to assume that I had been in an accident".
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 10:15 AM (DGFgt)
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Ze Barrel for Gregory of Yardale. Please don't pick up the pulsating green discourtesy phone.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:15 AM (V8fhv)
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Yummy Breakfast time
Posted by: the barrel at May 13, 2015 10:15 AM (sWgE+)
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Tard Zones.------hahahahah. Yes
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2015 10:15 AM (9OgGE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:15 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: The Barrel at May 13, 2015 10:16 AM (KUa85)
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Your 4.0 grade point average will be of no use in the barrel, Gregory.
Posted by: PabloD at May 13, 2015 10:16 AM (YV58v)
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Be bold, be bold, but be not too bold.
Posted by: The Barrel at May 13, 2015 10:16 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 13, 2015 10:17 AM (zRby/)
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Accordingly, trigger warnings are for known situations where
sufferers might encounter common triggers, like if you're conducting a
seminar for people with PTSD or writing a book for people with DID. Triggering
is not a concern for the general public. You and I do not have to
worry about triggering some unknown person. There is no way to
trigger-proof our entire culture on the chance you might affect a
stranger with an emotional or mental problem. And there is absolutely
no need to worry about triggering Social Justice Warrior snowflakes and
prudes. No one has to walk on eggshells around them. They need to learn to own their feelings.
This goes far beyond the concept of trigger warnings, really. We cannot danger-proof the world. There will always be risks involved in everything. Even something as mild as getting out of bed in the morning involves risk. You might step on a Lego, fall forward, and brain yourself on a windowsill.
Life is risk.
I think about this a lot because of my peanut allergy. I know that there are certain things I shouldn't do because the risk of having an anaphylactic attack are too high: I don't eat Thai or Chinese food; I don't eat anything homemade without knowing EXACTLY what's in it, even then I tend to avoid it; I always read the ingredients on EVERYTHING; etc. I know my risks, and I adapt my life to avoid or lessen them.
Here's what I don't do: I don't expect EVERYONE ELSE to adapt THEIR lives to protect me.
I'm in the minority. I know that. The vast majority of people in the country, let alone worldwide, are not allergic to peanuts. I am not going to glare at someone for eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich next to me at a picnic table, thinking, "How DARE you eat something like that in public, when you know there may be allergy sufferers around who could DIE if they accidentally ingested any of that!" I am not an anti-social brat. I prefer to enjoy life while managing MY OWN risks, while others enjoy their lives without worrying about MY risks. I own my own safety; I don't expect others to protect me.
This is something that these idiot snowflake SJWs don't get. They refuse to have ownership of ANYTHING. If they fail an exam it's not THEIR fault; it's the professor's fault, because the professor doesn't take into account how HARD the snowflake studied. If they lose their job it's not THEIR fault; it's the employer's fault for expecting them to be there on time every morning. If they don't like a movie, it's not THEIR fault for having tastes that don't mesh with the aesthetics of the movie; it's the MOVIEMAKER'S fault for making a film that's not in sync with the snowflake's perceived zeitgeist.
They exist in a world where everything is someone else's fault, except things they like, in which case it's because of THEM. DADT repealed? Because I marched around with big paper mache heads on sticks demanding it. Professor fired? Because I signed an online petition to get him/her removed from campus. Restaurant closes? Because I posted a bad review on Yelp about how poorly the owner treats his/her employees.
Forget Gordon Gecko. The yuppies of the 80s were pikers when it comes to greed and selfishness compared to today's Millennial snowflakes.
sufferers might encounter common triggers, like if you're conducting a
seminar for people with PTSD or writing a book for people with DID. Triggering
is not a concern for the general public. You and I do not have to
worry about triggering some unknown person. There is no way to
trigger-proof our entire culture on the chance you might affect a
stranger with an emotional or mental problem. And there is absolutely
no need to worry about triggering Social Justice Warrior snowflakes and
prudes. No one has to walk on eggshells around them. They need to learn to own their feelings.
This goes far beyond the concept of trigger warnings, really. We cannot danger-proof the world. There will always be risks involved in everything. Even something as mild as getting out of bed in the morning involves risk. You might step on a Lego, fall forward, and brain yourself on a windowsill.
Life is risk.
I think about this a lot because of my peanut allergy. I know that there are certain things I shouldn't do because the risk of having an anaphylactic attack are too high: I don't eat Thai or Chinese food; I don't eat anything homemade without knowing EXACTLY what's in it, even then I tend to avoid it; I always read the ingredients on EVERYTHING; etc. I know my risks, and I adapt my life to avoid or lessen them.
Here's what I don't do: I don't expect EVERYONE ELSE to adapt THEIR lives to protect me.
I'm in the minority. I know that. The vast majority of people in the country, let alone worldwide, are not allergic to peanuts. I am not going to glare at someone for eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich next to me at a picnic table, thinking, "How DARE you eat something like that in public, when you know there may be allergy sufferers around who could DIE if they accidentally ingested any of that!" I am not an anti-social brat. I prefer to enjoy life while managing MY OWN risks, while others enjoy their lives without worrying about MY risks. I own my own safety; I don't expect others to protect me.
This is something that these idiot snowflake SJWs don't get. They refuse to have ownership of ANYTHING. If they fail an exam it's not THEIR fault; it's the professor's fault, because the professor doesn't take into account how HARD the snowflake studied. If they lose their job it's not THEIR fault; it's the employer's fault for expecting them to be there on time every morning. If they don't like a movie, it's not THEIR fault for having tastes that don't mesh with the aesthetics of the movie; it's the MOVIEMAKER'S fault for making a film that's not in sync with the snowflake's perceived zeitgeist.
They exist in a world where everything is someone else's fault, except things they like, in which case it's because of THEM. DADT repealed? Because I marched around with big paper mache heads on sticks demanding it. Professor fired? Because I signed an online petition to get him/her removed from campus. Restaurant closes? Because I posted a bad review on Yelp about how poorly the owner treats his/her employees.
Forget Gordon Gecko. The yuppies of the 80s were pikers when it comes to greed and selfishness compared to today's Millennial snowflakes.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:17 AM (4df7R)
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And MWR uses a Clue Bat +Eleventy!!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:18 AM (V8fhv)
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Forget Gordon Gecko. The yuppies of the 80s were pikers when it comes to greed and selfishness compared to today's Millennial snowflakes.
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Completely agree.
Hell, at least our generation got out of their pajamas and dressed themselves for work.
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Completely agree.
Hell, at least our generation got out of their pajamas and dressed themselves for work.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (RWGcK)
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I'm so old, I still remember when a Trigger was Roy Rogers horse...
Posted by: zipity at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (Lq7+e)
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I was also married to a woman affected by DID and faced challenges similar to yours. Fortunately, with significant professional help and a lot of hard work on her part, she's doing quite well. However, her triggering was the result of a hideous childhood and is in no way related to the hurt feelings of the special snowflakes that populate today's campuses. I am quite angry about the way real psychological trauma has been hijacked by the left (and, yes, I own that emotion - the proper one for the situation) for pathetic political ends.
Posted by: Wayne M at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (5JpAk)
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Remember the thing about special snowflakes: When the heat goes up, they all melt the same.
Gonna be a lotta special snowflakes melting when it all burns.
Gonna be a lotta special snowflakes melting when it all burns.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:22 AM (LA7Cm)
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WayneM, I'm glad she's doing better. It takes a lot of self-insight and strength to recover even partially from all of that.
Posted by: LadyS at May 13, 2015 10:22 AM (xYNhJ)
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28 This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
And celebrating it trivializes it.
Mental illness is a reason, not an excuse.
It's stupid fucking movies and pop culture that makes
everybody with a mental illness some kind genius. And depression is just a case of the sads which can be cured by a Morgan Freeman speech. And it's the medications that are the problem bro (fuck you Tom Cruise).
I lots of other things to say about this but I'll have to stick with "Fuck you lefty bastards".
Oh well, back to my research into smug seeking missiles.
Oh and fuck Cathy Young.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
And celebrating it trivializes it.
Mental illness is a reason, not an excuse.
It's stupid fucking movies and pop culture that makes
everybody with a mental illness some kind genius. And depression is just a case of the sads which can be cured by a Morgan Freeman speech. And it's the medications that are the problem bro (fuck you Tom Cruise).
I lots of other things to say about this but I'll have to stick with "Fuck you lefty bastards".
Oh well, back to my research into smug seeking missiles.
Oh and fuck Cathy Young.
Posted by: #WrongHousePawsUpDon'tShoot at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (/rA4q)
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Completely agree.
Hell, at least our generation got out of their pajamas and dressed themselves for work.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (RWGcK)
Exactly. Now a snowflake bitches about not getting a job at the bank because the employer was prejudiced against people who come to job interviews wearing pajama bottoms and a Rolling Stones t-shirt. * Again, it's not THEIR fault. It's the BANK'S fault for having standards.
*I totally made up that situation, but I know - I KNOW - that something like it has happened somewhere in the country. It's a mathematical certainty.
Hell, at least our generation got out of their pajamas and dressed themselves for work.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:19 AM (RWGcK)
Exactly. Now a snowflake bitches about not getting a job at the bank because the employer was prejudiced against people who come to job interviews wearing pajama bottoms and a Rolling Stones t-shirt. * Again, it's not THEIR fault. It's the BANK'S fault for having standards.
*I totally made up that situation, but I know - I KNOW - that something like it has happened somewhere in the country. It's a mathematical certainty.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (4df7R)
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This is one of the bad effects of prosperity.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (MQEz6)
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There is honest-to-God triggering, like when a war vet with PTSD dives for cover when he hears a loud sudden noise. This "OMG I'm triggered because my university invited Christina Hoff Summers to speak" stuff is absolute bullshit and pisses in the face of people who have real problems.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (2Ojst)
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The worst thing about special snowflakes and the work force: When you have a special muslim snowflake. I had one of those working for me, a Paki. He didn't think he had to produce at anything resembling speed, nor stay late, even though the rest of my department did. This was before 9/11. I can only imagine what it's like now to have a special muslim snowflake as a subordinate. Especially with this muzzie loving administration. I'd be brought up on all kinds of charges today.
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 10:24 AM (aLrSh)
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Today's generation is so bad that it has affected (negatively) even the GOOD ones.
Case in point. My husband has about 55 people on his team, all generations. The younger ones (30s and below) have a much higher percentage of flaking out. I mean things like -- not showing up for work (w/o explanation) or drifting through assignments w/o owning them (always waiting to be told what to do).
The few young folks he has who DO have some semblance of good work ethic see the others and decide that because they aren't slackers they deserve to be promoted to managerial positions 6 months into their jobs! It's laughable, but that's what's happened.
Case in point. My husband has about 55 people on his team, all generations. The younger ones (30s and below) have a much higher percentage of flaking out. I mean things like -- not showing up for work (w/o explanation) or drifting through assignments w/o owning them (always waiting to be told what to do).
The few young folks he has who DO have some semblance of good work ethic see the others and decide that because they aren't slackers they deserve to be promoted to managerial positions 6 months into their jobs! It's laughable, but that's what's happened.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:24 AM (RWGcK)
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I believe that many, if not most of the problems that we have today find their source in (mankind's really) our need to constantly interpret what things; laws, what have you, mean.
What is going on now is a public attempt at interpreting the Bill of Rights in general, and the 1st Amendment in particular.
When it comes to interpreting laws, etc., I find myself in the Robert Heinlein school of thought on the subject. He said, in several of his books, that no law should be over 25 words and any attempt at interpreting any law should be illegal with a penalty of death.
I'm pretty sure he was on to something.
What is going on now is a public attempt at interpreting the Bill of Rights in general, and the 1st Amendment in particular.
When it comes to interpreting laws, etc., I find myself in the Robert Heinlein school of thought on the subject. He said, in several of his books, that no law should be over 25 words and any attempt at interpreting any law should be illegal with a penalty of death.
I'm pretty sure he was on to something.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 13, 2015 10:24 AM (BZAd3)
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OK, snark aside. This whole "triggering" thing is an implicit
suggestion that people have no agency. They can't be expected to
control themselves. And that's a pretty damned bleak assessment of
people.
Posted by: @JohnTant at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (PFy0L)"
Mentally ill people do not have agency. They cannot be expected to control themselves. Before Ken Kesey's "One Flew Over The Cucoo's Nest" and Thomas Szaz and his deinstitutionalization movement succeeded so well, something like one in two hundred adults in the United States was in a mental hospital. A lot of those people suffered from senile dementia and would be cared for today in nursing homes. Another large group were suffering from the later stages of syphilis which can now be cured with antibiotics. Still, even without those numbers, this seems to indicate that a fairly substantial fraction of the population are crazy.
Today, instead of confining mentally ill people to mental health institutions, it seems that the mentally ill are in control of academic and government institutions.
OK, snark aside. This whole "triggering" thing is an implicit
suggestion that people have no agency. They can't be expected to
control themselves. And that's a pretty damned bleak assessment of
people.
Posted by: @JohnTant at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (PFy0L)"
Mentally ill people do not have agency. They cannot be expected to control themselves. Before Ken Kesey's "One Flew Over The Cucoo's Nest" and Thomas Szaz and his deinstitutionalization movement succeeded so well, something like one in two hundred adults in the United States was in a mental hospital. A lot of those people suffered from senile dementia and would be cared for today in nursing homes. Another large group were suffering from the later stages of syphilis which can now be cured with antibiotics. Still, even without those numbers, this seems to indicate that a fairly substantial fraction of the population are crazy.
Today, instead of confining mentally ill people to mental health institutions, it seems that the mentally ill are in control of academic and government institutions.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (KDbAT)
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And some lawyers cash in on this. Apparently some lawyer is suing Catholic University because Muslim students are triggered and offended by crucifixes around the campus.
Boo, hoo, Mohammed.
Boo, hoo, Mohammed.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (1sJza)
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141 This is one of the bad effects of prosperity.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (MQEz6)
Then I guess we won't have to worry about it for much longer.
Posted by: eman at May 13, 2015 10:23 AM (MQEz6)
Then I guess we won't have to worry about it for much longer.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (zoehZ)
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*I totally made up that situation, but I know - I KNOW - that something like it has happened somewhere in the country.
Sub "face tattoos" or "giant ear holes" for "pajama pants" and it's happening a dozen time a day.
Sub "face tattoos" or "giant ear holes" for "pajama pants" and it's happening a dozen time a day.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (1sJza)
Posted by: Hat #012 at May 13, 2015 10:26 AM (2l+KS)
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. I am quite angry about the way real psychological trauma has been hijacked by the left (and, yes, I own that emotion - the proper one for the situation) for pathetic political ends.
Just like the left has hijacked real racism and replaced it with faux racism.
Just like the left has hijacked real rape and replaced it with not-rape.
Just like the left has hijacked real racism and replaced it with faux racism.
Just like the left has hijacked real rape and replaced it with not-rape.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 10:26 AM (kNWU4)
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"totally made up that situation, but I know - I KNOW - that something like it has happened somewhere in the country. It's a mathematical certainty."
Oh, a few weeks ago some Oberlin chick launched a campaign about how a "sexist" tech company didn't hire her because of her boobs.
Yeah, maybe it was the fact you showed up late to the interview wearing stockings with runners in them and an outfit that was more appropriate for a concert than a job interview.
Idiot.
Oh, a few weeks ago some Oberlin chick launched a campaign about how a "sexist" tech company didn't hire her because of her boobs.
Yeah, maybe it was the fact you showed up late to the interview wearing stockings with runners in them and an outfit that was more appropriate for a concert than a job interview.
Idiot.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:26 AM (MYCIw)
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OT, but the Propaganda Press will no doubt bury this story.
Did you know that six states ObamaCare exchanges have failed for a variety of reasons and, now, Hawaii is about to become #7? Over $200 million bucks down the drain, because the basic economics of ZeroCare just don't work in the state.
Anyone who mentions this is a racist homophobe with triggering issues, so be careful that anyone you tell can handle this info.
bit.ly/1H3w4Wc
Did you know that six states ObamaCare exchanges have failed for a variety of reasons and, now, Hawaii is about to become #7? Over $200 million bucks down the drain, because the basic economics of ZeroCare just don't work in the state.
Anyone who mentions this is a racist homophobe with triggering issues, so be careful that anyone you tell can handle this info.
bit.ly/1H3w4Wc
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 10:27 AM (LISuA)
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"Then I guess we won't have to worry about it for much longer."
It's hard to worry about manspreading when you're desperately looking for something to eat.
It's hard to worry about manspreading when you're desperately looking for something to eat.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 13, 2015 10:27 AM (LA7Cm)
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Now a snowflake bitches about not getting a job at the bank because the employer was prejudiced against people who come to job interviews wearing pajama bottoms and a Rolling Stones t-shirt.
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Husband and self have dealt with a lot of major corporate employers over the years. Almost to a man (and woman) they complain most bitterly about simple things like that.
Today as the push to on-line education as the (supposed) panacea for all ills becomes stronger, the employers my husband works with all say they do NOT want it. They want to hire grads who know how to get up, shower/shave, dress, and show up on time... as well as grads who've worked and studied amongst a group of people.
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Husband and self have dealt with a lot of major corporate employers over the years. Almost to a man (and woman) they complain most bitterly about simple things like that.
Today as the push to on-line education as the (supposed) panacea for all ills becomes stronger, the employers my husband works with all say they do NOT want it. They want to hire grads who know how to get up, shower/shave, dress, and show up on time... as well as grads who've worked and studied amongst a group of people.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (RWGcK)
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I think a standard reply should be of the drippingly condescending like, 'It's so unfortunate you have so little self control over what you say, do, act, and react. Have you considered the services of a mental health professional to help you?'
That is *the* crux of the biscuit.
/ waits for reply from Frank Zappa sock
That is *the* crux of the biscuit.
/ waits for reply from Frank Zappa sock
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (7ObY1)
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AND...
In the course of this public interpretation of the Bill of Rights, we had better win. If the "unalienable rights" we have become any more watered down than they already are, they will become meaningless.
BTW, 31 Democrats recently introduced legislation to ban the online sale of ammunition.
Just sayin'
In the course of this public interpretation of the Bill of Rights, we had better win. If the "unalienable rights" we have become any more watered down than they already are, they will become meaningless.
BTW, 31 Democrats recently introduced legislation to ban the online sale of ammunition.
Just sayin'
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (BZAd3)
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*rummages around on blog*
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-is-art.html
Might still have some currency.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-is-art.html
Might still have some currency.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:29 AM (V8fhv)
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>>>> because Muslim students are triggered and offended by crucifixes around the campus.
Well we don't want them to go to pieces or anything. Muslims are The Bomb, after all.
Well we don't want them to go to pieces or anything. Muslims are The Bomb, after all.
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 10:29 AM (3ZtZW)
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Sub "face tattoos" or "giant ear holes" for "pajama pants" and it's happening a dozen time a day.
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I've posted it before, but sometime go to the Sundance Resort "jobs" page and read their Standards of Conduct/Appearance.
Good for them, I say.
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I've posted it before, but sometime go to the Sundance Resort "jobs" page and read their Standards of Conduct/Appearance.
Good for them, I say.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:29 AM (RWGcK)
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Our special snowflake here seems to think she can come and go as she pleases and change her work schedule at her own personal whim.
She refused to give a reason for her needed change, stating she didn't have to. When her supervisor said no, she went to his boss. When he said no, she went to HR and the VP.
They eventually accomodated her.
She refused to give a reason for her needed change, stating she didn't have to. When her supervisor said no, she went to his boss. When he said no, she went to HR and the VP.
They eventually accomodated her.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 13, 2015 10:30 AM (oZe0I)
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 10:30 AM (3ZtZW)
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Speaking of special snowflakes, the White House is demanding that Sherrod Brown apologize for accusing Barky of sexism. See WZ.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 10:31 AM (ee9LE)
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Yeah, maybe it was the fact you showed up late to the interview wearing stockings with runners in them and an outfit that was more appropriate for a concert than a job interview.
That's nothing. I was hiring a helpdesk tech. He showed up in jeans and a sports team jersey and put his feet up on the extra chair in the room. He couldn't understand why the interview lasted 10 minutes
That's nothing. I was hiring a helpdesk tech. He showed up in jeans and a sports team jersey and put his feet up on the extra chair in the room. He couldn't understand why the interview lasted 10 minutes
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:31 AM (sWgE+)
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You cannot control what others do, only your reaction to it.
Posted by: Lea at May 13, 2015 10:32 AM (lIU4e)
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Very well put.
The problem with making everything a trigger is that when everyone's special, Dash, then no one is. When everything is a trigger, then nothing is.
I was taught that the only one responsible for my mental health is me. That means when I know that something will upset me, it's up to me to avoid it. I'm in control, I have the power, I am responsible for me.
That's out the window now and I do not comprehend what is "feminist" about acting as if the Universe shan't give me the vapors.
I do not comprehend why people elect to remain weak. I mean, I guess I do since being an Adult is hard and I hate it. But I hate other people having control over my life more.
The problem with making everything a trigger is that when everyone's special, Dash, then no one is. When everything is a trigger, then nothing is.
I was taught that the only one responsible for my mental health is me. That means when I know that something will upset me, it's up to me to avoid it. I'm in control, I have the power, I am responsible for me.
That's out the window now and I do not comprehend what is "feminist" about acting as if the Universe shan't give me the vapors.
I do not comprehend why people elect to remain weak. I mean, I guess I do since being an Adult is hard and I hate it. But I hate other people having control over my life more.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 13, 2015 10:32 AM (mf5HN)
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Someone mentioned John Gall and Systemantics last night.
I did a quick search
" Systems only see what they filter to themselves:
In other words, the system has a severely censored and distorted
view of reality from biased and filtering sensory organs which
displaces understanding of the actual real-world which pales
and tends to disappear. This displacement creates a type of sen-
sory deprivation and a kind of hallucinogenic effect on those
inside the systems, causing them to lose common sense. In addi-
tion to negatively affecting those inside the system, the system
attracts to it people who are optimized for the pathological
environment the system creates.
Thus,
Systems attract systems-people"
It seemed appropriate, somehow.
I did a quick search
" Systems only see what they filter to themselves:
In other words, the system has a severely censored and distorted
view of reality from biased and filtering sensory organs which
displaces understanding of the actual real-world which pales
and tends to disappear. This displacement creates a type of sen-
sory deprivation and a kind of hallucinogenic effect on those
inside the systems, causing them to lose common sense. In addi-
tion to negatively affecting those inside the system, the system
attracts to it people who are optimized for the pathological
environment the system creates.
Thus,
Systems attract systems-people"
It seemed appropriate, somehow.
Posted by: Kindltot (who is pissy today, sorry) at May 13, 2015 10:32 AM (t//F+)
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Just like the left has hijacked real racism and replaced it with faux racism.
Just like the left has hijacked real rape and replaced it with not-rape.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 10:26 AM (kNWU4)
But what about murder and arson?
Just like the left has hijacked real rape and replaced it with not-rape.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 13, 2015 10:26 AM (kNWU4)
But what about murder and arson?
Posted by: Bad Guy getting badge from Hedley Lamarr at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (2l+KS)
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Safe zones will be mandated by OSHA in the future, much like lactation rooms are now mandated by HHS.
Bicentennial Guy
I am old enough to remember when companies had to take the separate rooms and couches out of the ladies rooms because that was not fair somehow. Then lactating mothers made a stink that they had to nurse in the bathrooms.
Our government atwerk. Rip it out, redo, rip out again -- lotsa government goodies for all.
Bicentennial Guy
I am old enough to remember when companies had to take the separate rooms and couches out of the ladies rooms because that was not fair somehow. Then lactating mothers made a stink that they had to nurse in the bathrooms.
Our government atwerk. Rip it out, redo, rip out again -- lotsa government goodies for all.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (MIKMs)
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Why do women's triggers take so long to fire?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
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Kindltot, or you could just say the cult has programmed their followers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (V8fhv)
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28 This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
And celebrating it trivializes it.
Mental illness is a reason, not an excuse.
THIS.
28 This is all part and parcel of the Left's attempt to normalize mental illness and celebrate it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 09:49 AM (+eQ0e)
And celebrating it trivializes it.
Mental illness is a reason, not an excuse.
THIS.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:34 AM (4df7R)
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172 Why do women's triggers take so long to fire?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
I've never known that to the be the case. OH...you mean...OOOOHHHH...never mind.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
I've never known that to the be the case. OH...you mean...OOOOHHHH...never mind.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 13, 2015 10:34 AM (2Ojst)
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Should College now test prospective students for emotional and mental maturity before admitting them? Seems their screening process is failing.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:35 AM (oDCMR)
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I wonder what a Moron Horde "safe space" would entail?
Besides Val-U-Rite, I mean...
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (7ObY1)
Barrels of Val-U-Rite.
/Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Besides Val-U-Rite, I mean...
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 10:28 AM (7ObY1)
Barrels of Val-U-Rite.
/Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Posted by: RickZ at May 13, 2015 10:36 AM (aLrSh)
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Philadelphia's mayor says the train equivalent of a black box has been recovered from the wreckage of the crash that killed at least six people.
Officials held a news conference Wednesday morning to give an update on the investigation into the derailment.
Mayor Michael Nutter says the train conductor was injured in Tuesday night's crash and received medical treatment.
Another city official says hospitals have treated more than 200 people from the crash.
Robert Sumwalt with the National Transportation Safety Board says investigators are looking at factors including track signals, the train's operation and the conductor's actions.
Officials held a news conference Wednesday morning to give an update on the investigation into the derailment.
Mayor Michael Nutter says the train conductor was injured in Tuesday night's crash and received medical treatment.
Another city official says hospitals have treated more than 200 people from the crash.
Robert Sumwalt with the National Transportation Safety Board says investigators are looking at factors including track signals, the train's operation and the conductor's actions.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:37 AM (RWGcK)
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Why do women's triggers take so long to fire?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
Þe olde corde on the firearm is drenched in menses a quarter of the time... and thus would not fire...
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
Þe olde corde on the firearm is drenched in menses a quarter of the time... and thus would not fire...
Posted by: A Chorde of Olde at May 13, 2015 10:38 AM (2l+KS)
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131 >> <snip> If they fail an exam it's not THEIR fault; it's the professor's fault,
because the professor doesn't take into account how HARD the snowflake
studied.
MWR, very related -- Nursing student sues university for $75k because she failed a class twice:
http://tinyurl.com/mhgq67g
(Daily Mail) This little snowflake really melted down.
because the professor doesn't take into account how HARD the snowflake
studied.
MWR, very related -- Nursing student sues university for $75k because she failed a class twice:
http://tinyurl.com/mhgq67g
(Daily Mail) This little snowflake really melted down.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (FuZHr)
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172 Why do women's triggers take so long to fire?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
Hillary's fires juuuust fine, thank you.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (oDCMR)
Hillary's fires juuuust fine, thank you.
Posted by: Huma at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (ZKzrr)
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They can try and paint USS Freedom as war-like as possible, the ship is still an LCS.
http://tinyurl.com/osnxw7s
http://tinyurl.com/osnxw7s
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (V8fhv)
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They want to hire grads who know how to get up, shower/shave, dress, and show up on time... as well as grads who've worked and studied amongst a group of people.
Ever notice how the only things we're not really allowed to train and select for are the things that would actually be, y'know, helpful to train and select for?
Ever notice how the only things we're not really allowed to train and select for are the things that would actually be, y'know, helpful to train and select for?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (DT3rQ)
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I was talking to a man several weeks ago who is charge of hiring for some company. He was lamenting the fact that so many younger people (including some people in their 20s) who come in simply have no idea how to do an interview. They come in inappropriately dressed, they can't maintain eye contact, they don't know how to carry on conversations. He thinks a big part of the reason is because they're so glued to the i-phones, etc. that they don't know how to interact on a "regular" level. That's sad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (1sJza)
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Another city official says hospitals have treated more than 200 people from the crash.
Robert Sumwalt with the National Transportation Safety Board says
investigators are looking at factors including track signals, the
train's operation and the conductor's actions.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:37 AM (RWGcK)
What? There were only 283 on the train. Also, someone joked earlier about the wreck and Global Warming.
Hot weather, like yesterday, can expand the tracks and lead to buckling of the track. I am betting that will be the cause or speeding.
Robert Sumwalt with the National Transportation Safety Board says
investigators are looking at factors including track signals, the
train's operation and the conductor's actions.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:37 AM (RWGcK)
What? There were only 283 on the train. Also, someone joked earlier about the wreck and Global Warming.
Hot weather, like yesterday, can expand the tracks and lead to buckling of the track. I am betting that will be the cause or speeding.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (0FSuD)
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Psychologically capable and functional adults own their own feelings, because it is the only way to effectively face the challenges of daily life successfully.
Psychological basket cases and non-functional people do not.
Psychological basket cases and non-functional people do not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2015 10:41 AM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Huma at May 13, 2015 10:41 AM (sWgE+)
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When I hear the word "trigger" I reach for my intellectual.
Okay, that sounded funnier in my head.
Okay, that sounded funnier in my head.
Posted by: jwpaine at May 13, 2015 10:41 AM (0bXhD)
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187 Psychologically capable and functional adults own their own feelings, because it is the only way to effectively face the challenges of daily life successfully.
Psychological basket cases and non-functional people do not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2015 10:41 AM (Kpl3J)
Numbing yourself out with Val-U-Rite usually does the trick.
Psychological basket cases and non-functional people do not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2015 10:41 AM (Kpl3J)
Numbing yourself out with Val-U-Rite usually does the trick.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (2Ojst)
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Men have penises.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (VAsIq)
192
I wonder what a Moron Horde "safe space" would entail?
Besides Val-U-Rite, I mean...
--
Barrels of Val-U-Rite.
/Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Wouldn't any barrel be the opposite of a safe space for us?
Besides Val-U-Rite, I mean...
--
Barrels of Val-U-Rite.
/Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
Wouldn't any barrel be the opposite of a safe space for us?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (ZKzrr)
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Ever notice how the only things we're not really allowed to train and select for are the things that would actually be, y'know, helpful to train and select for?
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My husband is fortunate that he has a deep compliance background and is able to write his job descriptions to account for many of these things. Not all of the jobs in his unit, but most of them involve dealing with the public and with sensitive information etc. So that helps quite a lot, but he still gets people who are not at all remotely qualified (or able to perform) jobs slip through the first screening.
Case in point, a deaf person applying for a call center job.
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My husband is fortunate that he has a deep compliance background and is able to write his job descriptions to account for many of these things. Not all of the jobs in his unit, but most of them involve dealing with the public and with sensitive information etc. So that helps quite a lot, but he still gets people who are not at all remotely qualified (or able to perform) jobs slip through the first screening.
Case in point, a deaf person applying for a call center job.
Posted by: Y-not at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (RWGcK)
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Kindltot, or you could just say the cult has programmed their followers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (V8fhv)
All government agencies and businesses over 100 employees have this issue too.
Businesses do better because they have nothing to use as a cushion against the hard, cold reality besides their own bodies and fortunes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:33 AM (V8fhv)
All government agencies and businesses over 100 employees have this issue too.
Businesses do better because they have nothing to use as a cushion against the hard, cold reality besides their own bodies and fortunes.
Posted by: Kindltot (who is pissy today, sorry) at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (t//F+)
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He was lamenting the fact that so many younger people (including some people in their 20s) who come in simply have no idea how to do an interview. They come in inappropriately dressed, they can't maintain eye contact, they don't know how to carry on conversations.
My daughter's boyfriend obviously was interviewing there.
My daughter's boyfriend obviously was interviewing there.
Posted by: MTF at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (LISuA)
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MWR, very related -- Nursing student sues university for $75k because she failed a class twice:
http://tinyurl.com/mhgq67g
(Daily Mail) This little snowflake really melted down.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (FuZHr)
I fucking hate these people.
Seriously, what the actual fcuk is this?
The lawsuit
also claims that she tried to call the nursing professor repeatedly on
her mobile phone during the final exam but did not receive a response,
according to The Citizens Voice.'Professor
Tomkins' failure to be available to (Burbella) on numerous occasions
during the examination created an even more stressful environment for
the student, all of which can be verified by Megan Hurley, a counselor
at Misericordia University, who witnessed (Burbella) attempting to make
calls to Professor Tomkins on several occasions during the exam and
breaking down and crying when Tomkins did not answer,' McGrath wrote.
IT'S THE FINAL EXAM! Who calls the professor to ask QUESTIONS during the FINAL EXAM? And not the first final, either. the SECOND TIME she took the final.
This is exactly the kind of chick I want as my nurse. Someone so hysterical they can't even get through an exam without breaking down in tears. That's EXACTLY who I want giving me CPR when I go into cardiac arrest.
http://tinyurl.com/mhgq67g
(Daily Mail) This little snowflake really melted down.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 13, 2015 10:39 AM (FuZHr)
I fucking hate these people.
Seriously, what the actual fcuk is this?
The lawsuit
also claims that she tried to call the nursing professor repeatedly on
her mobile phone during the final exam but did not receive a response,
according to The Citizens Voice.'Professor
Tomkins' failure to be available to (Burbella) on numerous occasions
during the examination created an even more stressful environment for
the student, all of which can be verified by Megan Hurley, a counselor
at Misericordia University, who witnessed (Burbella) attempting to make
calls to Professor Tomkins on several occasions during the exam and
breaking down and crying when Tomkins did not answer,' McGrath wrote.
IT'S THE FINAL EXAM! Who calls the professor to ask QUESTIONS during the FINAL EXAM? And not the first final, either. the SECOND TIME she took the final.
This is exactly the kind of chick I want as my nurse. Someone so hysterical they can't even get through an exam without breaking down in tears. That's EXACTLY who I want giving me CPR when I go into cardiac arrest.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:43 AM (4df7R)
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People of Northern European descent have lighter skin than those of West African descent.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:43 AM (VAsIq)
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185 I was talking to a man several weeks ago who is charge of hiring for some company. He was lamenting the fact that so many younger people (including some people in their 20s) who come in simply have no idea how to do an interview. They come in inappropriately dressed, they can't maintain eye contact, they don't know how to carry on conversations. He thinks a big part of the reason is because they're so glued to the i-phones, etc. that they don't know how to interact on a "regular" level. That's sad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (1sJza)
My wife and I have run mock job interviews with both our kids. Trust me we were not easy on them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (1sJza)
My wife and I have run mock job interviews with both our kids. Trust me we were not easy on them.
Posted by: Huma at May 13, 2015 10:43 AM (sWgE+)
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Sponsoring a Draw Mohammed (pig bowels upon him) contest is triggering for some. And the left doesn't see that attacking it was a choice the former jihadis made. It's as if the left sees muslims as mindless, fragile college students unable to control their reactions to events that disturb them.
Posted by: Marmo at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (QW+AD)
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"IT'S THE FINAL EXAM! Who calls the professor to ask QUESTIONS during the FINAL EXAM? And not the first final, either. the SECOND TIME she took the final. "
Crazy people.
Crazy people.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (MYCIw)
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I was talking to a man several weeks ago who is charge of hiring for some company. He was lamenting the fact that so many younger people (including some people in their 20s) who come in simply have no idea how to do an interview. They come in inappropriately dressed, they can't maintain eye contact, they don't know how to carry on conversations. He thinks a big part of the reason is because they're so glued to the i-phones, etc. that they don't know how to interact on a "regular" level. That's sad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (1sJza)
This is why, when I engage in games with friends, I prefer to play games that require people to actually come together at some place.
Be it RPG, LARP, board game, &c.
If I'm going to pretend to be some mythological creature, I'd prefer to do it in the presence of friends than all alone in my Den...
...not to say anything against my friends in a box (there has just not been... yet... a MeMoNV yet
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (1sJza)
This is why, when I engage in games with friends, I prefer to play games that require people to actually come together at some place.
Be it RPG, LARP, board game, &c.
If I'm going to pretend to be some mythological creature, I'd prefer to do it in the presence of friends than all alone in my Den...
...not to say anything against my friends in a box (there has just not been... yet... a MeMoNV yet
Posted by: The Personal Hat at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (2l+KS)
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Somehow scientists creating chicken faces that look like a dinosaur does not make me terribly sanguine, HR.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (1sJza)
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People who have been coddled to the point of being nonfunctioning humans.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 13, 2015 10:45 AM (/Ho8c)
205
The "triggering" movement is simply another attempt by the left to censor speech.
They have been doing it for years. The left will always attempt to censor speech because the left cannot win in an open debate of ideas.
Why else would they have always resorted to censorship? Whether it is the PC police, college students stealing college papers they don't like, shouting down speakers, or the many other ways the left engages in shutting down speech, the left has always focused hard on stopping opponents from being heard.
I always ask the same question of those on the right - if your positions are correct, why must you always lie to support your position? (try engaging a leftists in a debate without the leftist lying -whether about the facts, your position, or their own previous position, the leftist will always lie).
I need to add another question - if your position is correct, why does your side always feel the need to shut down our side's speech? After all, if their position were correct, they should be able to win a debate through the logic and merit of their ideas.
Now, the lefty response is that the right uses "code words" and "dog whistles" to appeal to racism, sexism, etc. rather than winning on the merits of a debate. Of course, what they claim are "code words" or "racist" is always being defined down, to the point that "the" and "and" are considered dog-whistles if a conservative says them (see point 1 about the left's lies).
All this is a very long-winded way of saying that the left HAS to shut down debate in order to have any chance of success. Which is why they always are looking for new ways to censor speech. Hence, "triggers".
They have been doing it for years. The left will always attempt to censor speech because the left cannot win in an open debate of ideas.
Why else would they have always resorted to censorship? Whether it is the PC police, college students stealing college papers they don't like, shouting down speakers, or the many other ways the left engages in shutting down speech, the left has always focused hard on stopping opponents from being heard.
I always ask the same question of those on the right - if your positions are correct, why must you always lie to support your position? (try engaging a leftists in a debate without the leftist lying -whether about the facts, your position, or their own previous position, the leftist will always lie).
I need to add another question - if your position is correct, why does your side always feel the need to shut down our side's speech? After all, if their position were correct, they should be able to win a debate through the logic and merit of their ideas.
Now, the lefty response is that the right uses "code words" and "dog whistles" to appeal to racism, sexism, etc. rather than winning on the merits of a debate. Of course, what they claim are "code words" or "racist" is always being defined down, to the point that "the" and "and" are considered dog-whistles if a conservative says them (see point 1 about the left's lies).
All this is a very long-winded way of saying that the left HAS to shut down debate in order to have any chance of success. Which is why they always are looking for new ways to censor speech. Hence, "triggers".
Posted by: Monkeytoe at May 13, 2015 10:45 AM (3ZtZW)
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There is a difference between XX- and XY-chromosomed people.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:45 AM (VAsIq)
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Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (KDbAT)
The oft touted number is that one in either 4 or 5, I can't remember which, of people will experience mental illness as some point in their lives. (This number includes temporary illnesses like postpartum depression.) Mental illness runs in my fam so for me it's more like one in two or three, hah. Sometimes it feels like one to one.
I know a lovely, bright, energetic girl who was institutionalized and forcibly sterilized due to her physical disability; after the ADA passed she was able to finally escape that place and live her life. So I'm not eager to throw everyone back into mental hospitals. But there ARE plenty of people that need that kind of care that are not getting it, unfortunately.And yes, special snowflakes gotta snowflake. Lots of them are probably mentally ill and need help. You'd think they'd jump on the disability bandwagon more enthusiastically; minority status yo!
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (KDbAT)
The oft touted number is that one in either 4 or 5, I can't remember which, of people will experience mental illness as some point in their lives. (This number includes temporary illnesses like postpartum depression.) Mental illness runs in my fam so for me it's more like one in two or three, hah. Sometimes it feels like one to one.
I know a lovely, bright, energetic girl who was institutionalized and forcibly sterilized due to her physical disability; after the ADA passed she was able to finally escape that place and live her life. So I'm not eager to throw everyone back into mental hospitals. But there ARE plenty of people that need that kind of care that are not getting it, unfortunately.And yes, special snowflakes gotta snowflake. Lots of them are probably mentally ill and need help. You'd think they'd jump on the disability bandwagon more enthusiastically; minority status yo!
Posted by: LizLem, servant of the cross (deal with it ISIS) at May 13, 2015 10:45 AM (yRwC8)
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There is a difference between XX- and XY-chromosomed people.
Posted by: Trigger Warning
You lie! All the same, h8r!
Posted by: Trigger Warning
You lie! All the same, h8r!
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (/Ho8c)
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Well "cues" is a key componem in pysychological behavior, e.g., addiction, but "triggers" is lefty campus claptrap.
Well "cues" is a key componem in pysychological behavior, e.g., addiction, but "triggers" is lefty campus claptrap.
Posted by: Soothie at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (sGw0h)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (V8fhv)
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Trigger warning!
Imagine being trapped in a liquor store during a robbery. And having some lunatic grinding the muzzle of a revolver into the back of your ear. You might be thinking:
1. About your family.
2. Your life's regrets.
3. About meeting Jesus.
4. Did the person this lunatic stole the gun from prefer light trigger pulls.
Imagine being trapped in a liquor store during a robbery. And having some lunatic grinding the muzzle of a revolver into the back of your ear. You might be thinking:
1. About your family.
2. Your life's regrets.
3. About meeting Jesus.
4. Did the person this lunatic stole the gun from prefer light trigger pulls.
Posted by: #WrongHousePawsUpDon'tShoot at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (/rA4q)
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And I think the New Victorians would be an awesome name for a band, if it is not already one! I'm sure Dave Barry would agree with me were he still writing columns.
Posted by: LizLem, servant of the cross (deal with it ISIS) at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (yRwC8)
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As a Marine veteran, I am incapable of "micro aggression" but some of these jackasses may see actual aggression* if they continue to push too far.
* not a threat, merely an observation based upon my life experiences...
* not a threat, merely an observation based upon my life experiences...
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (WJ06A)
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Hot weather, like yesterday, can expand the tracks and lead to buckling of the track.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (0FSuD)
Oh my! How do those tracks in warmer places out west even stay in place?!
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:40 AM (0FSuD)
Oh my! How do those tracks in warmer places out west even stay in place?!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (60Vyp)
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"Hate speech will not be appreciated in this space."
So it is allowed - just not "appreciated"? I'm asking for a friend who fucking loves him some skank-ass bitches.
So it is allowed - just not "appreciated"? I'm asking for a friend who fucking loves him some skank-ass bitches.
Posted by: Dang at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (XWo4d)
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Hot weather, like yesterday, can expand the tracks and lead to
buckling of the track. I am betting that will be the cause or speeding.
Track went to the left, train went straight. I suspect one of Newtons 'Suggestions' is at work.
Hot weather, like yesterday, can expand the tracks and lead to
buckling of the track. I am betting that will be the cause or speeding.
Track went to the left, train went straight. I suspect one of Newtons 'Suggestions' is at work.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (xQX/f)
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191
Men have penises.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (VAsIq)
BEWARE OF PIV!!!
(Penis in Vagina)
Men have penises.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:42 AM (VAsIq)
BEWARE OF PIV!!!
(Penis in Vagina)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (0FSuD)
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Somehow scientists creating chicken faces that look like a dinosaur does not make me terribly sanguine, HR.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (1sJza)
There are far more tasty things that science can do with chickens...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoaomccQJY
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:44 AM (1sJza)
There are far more tasty things that science can do with chickens...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoaomccQJY
Posted by: The Buffalo Hat at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (2l+KS)
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Have y'all heard the latest trigger warning nonsense? Apparently a bunch of Columbia students are up in arms about having to read Ovid, because his "The Metamophoses" contains triggering elements, like the Rape of Persephone.
Reason: http://t.co/6cEsk2N2YP
I give up on humanity. Bring forth SMOD.
Reason: http://t.co/6cEsk2N2YP
I give up on humanity. Bring forth SMOD.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (4df7R)
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If one were to retreat to the safe space would they be asked to leave once they begin discussing what forced them to enter the safe space? seems a modern catch-22 conundrum
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (WJ06A)
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2) Conservatives say marriage has always been between a man and a woman. They're wrong.
And yet every example provided of "same-sex" marriage involves participants adopting the roles of "man" and "woman".
2) Conservatives say marriage has always been between a man and a woman. They're wrong.
And yet every example provided of "same-sex" marriage involves participants adopting the roles of "man" and "woman".
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (+eQ0e)
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6
It makes me feel safe to crush my enemies -- See them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation
of their women!
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (4CRfK)
-------------------------------------
"Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?"
"Trigger your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their feminists!"
It makes me feel safe to crush my enemies -- See them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation
of their women!
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 13, 2015 09:39 AM (4CRfK)
-------------------------------------
"Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?"
"Trigger your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their feminists!"
Posted by: gwelf at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (+7Usq)
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Somehow scientists creating chicken faces that look like a dinosaur does not make me terribly sanguine, HR.
I'm imagining having my own flock of velociraptors. Some for self-defense, some for omelets.
I'm imagining having my own flock of velociraptors. Some for self-defense, some for omelets.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (ZKzrr)
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The wonderful thing about triggers,
Is triggers are wonderful things.
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms? Made out of springs.
They're bouncy, bouncy, bouncy bouncy, fun, fun, fun, fun
But the most wonderful thing about triggers?
Is I'm theOnly One.
Is triggers are wonderful things.
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms? Made out of springs.
They're bouncy, bouncy, bouncy bouncy, fun, fun, fun, fun
But the most wonderful thing about triggers?
Is I'm theOnly One.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (lHb9q)
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So any idea what caused the train wreck?Saw some loony tweet that it was the Reps fault for not funding infrastructure
"work."
"work."
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (Bn6aD)
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I think that's a very good idea to run mock interviews with your kids, Huma.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (1sJza)
227
That tape holding up the "Safe Space" sign looks like rape tape.
Posted by: Dang at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (XWo4d)
228
*wonders*
Tosses a shiny object near TPH.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (V8fhv)
I am beyond such things now...
P.S. I still am not the Lizard Princess but I know the guy who danced with Chelsea Clintonbefore the surgery...
Tosses a shiny object near TPH.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (V8fhv)
I am beyond such things now...
P.S. I still am not the Lizard Princess but I know the guy who danced with Chelsea Clintonbefore the surgery...
Posted by: The Transcendent Hat of Transendence at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (2l+KS)
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It's bullying, pure and simple. People need to feel powerful and they will play stupid social games to try to enhance their sense of power. All the anti-bullying messaging these kids were subjected to in school (don't pick on people, be accepting of others, basic message of kindness) has been subverted and re-purposed into a new bullying tool by human nature. Neat trick!
Complicating factor: The brain doesn't really mature until around age 25, and young women in this age category are basically hormone-demons looking for any excuse to conduct a dramatic freak out.
Complicating factor: The brain doesn't really mature until around age 25, and young women in this age category are basically hormone-demons looking for any excuse to conduct a dramatic freak out.
Posted by: lauraw at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (RYHoV)
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The word vagina really triggers my anatomical response,but I still respect each of the nubile young maidens who trigger my cock alert.
The word vagina really triggers my anatomical response,but I still respect each of the nubile young maidens who trigger my cock alert.
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (P330y)
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Oh my! How do those tracks in warmer places out west even stay in place?!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (60Vyp)
They plan for the expansion and inspect the tracks. My guess some union guy hadn't inspected the track when he was suppose to.
http://tinyurl.com/klpnk49
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 13, 2015 10:47 AM (60Vyp)
They plan for the expansion and inspect the tracks. My guess some union guy hadn't inspected the track when he was suppose to.
http://tinyurl.com/klpnk49
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 10:50 AM (0FSuD)
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Well if we start with emus, ditch the feathers, adjust the beak a bit, and make sure the tail does not shrink... well there you go - a 'raptor prototype.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:50 AM (V8fhv)
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There is no reason someone else's opinion would act as a "cue" unless you have a mental illness, which the left might qualify for. But the whole "trigger" is bullshit.
There is no reason someone else's opinion would act as a "cue" unless you have a mental illness, which the left might qualify for. But the whole "trigger" is bullshit.
Posted by: Soothie at May 13, 2015 10:50 AM (sGw0h)
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All the anti-bullying messaging these kids were subjected to in school
(don't pick on people, be accepting of others, basic message of
kindness) has been subverted and re-purposed into a new bullying tool by
human nature.
It wasn't "subverted"--that was the whole point of it.
(don't pick on people, be accepting of others, basic message of
kindness) has been subverted and re-purposed into a new bullying tool by
human nature.
It wasn't "subverted"--that was the whole point of it.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (ZKzrr)
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I'm imagining having my own flock of velociraptors. Some for self-defense, some for omelets.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (ZKzrr)
Yea, try catching one for dinner. I'll bring the first aid kit.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:49 AM (ZKzrr)
Yea, try catching one for dinner. I'll bring the first aid kit.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (sWgE+)
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"And yet every example provided of "same-sex" marriage involves participants adopting the roles of "man" and "woman".
Posted by: Colorado Alex"
What in the world are you talking about?!
Posted by: Colorado Alex"
What in the world are you talking about?!
Posted by: A man with another man's fist in his ass at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (XWo4d)
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There are far more tasty things that science can do with chickens...
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Please. Just--quit fckuing me.
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Please. Just--quit fckuing me.
Posted by: the chicken at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (VAsIq)
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sung to the tune of I'm a Little Teapot:
"I'm a little Snowflake, weak and frail
Here is my trigger, that's why I fail
When you hit my trigger, I will pout,
I'm a Special Snowflake, there's no doubt."
(Oops, guess I'm a Cookie Jar).
"I'm a little Snowflake, weak and frail
Here is my trigger, that's why I fail
When you hit my trigger, I will pout,
I'm a Special Snowflake, there's no doubt."
(Oops, guess I'm a Cookie Jar).
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (lHb9q)
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (VAsIq)
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" The brain doesn't really mature until around age 25, and young women in this age category are basically hormone-demons looking for any excuse to conduct a dramatic freak out."
See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (MYCIw)
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Ovid triggers?
What about Fifty Shades?
Geez, yeah SMOD so we can have a great winnowing of all these short bus window lickers. Losing XBOX Live is NOT the end of the world.
And TPH, Lizard Princess. Did I miss a memo or a meme?
What about Fifty Shades?
Geez, yeah SMOD so we can have a great winnowing of all these short bus window lickers. Losing XBOX Live is NOT the end of the world.
And TPH, Lizard Princess. Did I miss a memo or a meme?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (V8fhv)
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My wife and I have run mock job interviews with both our kids. Trust me we were not easy on them.
Posted by: Huma at May 13, 2015 10:43 AM (sWgE+)
This is part and parcel of my new idee fixe that Kids These Days have not been reared, they've been trained like dogs except we treat dogs better.
You teach kids how to act in an interview because they don't know.
You teach kids that you show up on time and at least look neat and presentable because they don't know.
You teach kids that you treat people with common decency because they don't know.
Failing to teach them basic life skills is setting them up for failure.
I mean, sheesh, I loathe small humans and it certainly appears that I care more for making sure those small humans turning into at least moderately successful larger humans than does much of the rest of society, Horde excluded.
Posted by: Huma at May 13, 2015 10:43 AM (sWgE+)
This is part and parcel of my new idee fixe that Kids These Days have not been reared, they've been trained like dogs except we treat dogs better.
You teach kids how to act in an interview because they don't know.
You teach kids that you show up on time and at least look neat and presentable because they don't know.
You teach kids that you treat people with common decency because they don't know.
Failing to teach them basic life skills is setting them up for failure.
I mean, sheesh, I loathe small humans and it certainly appears that I care more for making sure those small humans turning into at least moderately successful larger humans than does much of the rest of society, Horde excluded.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (mf5HN)
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All the anti-bullying messaging these kids were subjected to in school
(don't pick on people, be accepting of others, basic message of
kindness) has been subverted and re-purposed into a new bullying tool by
human nature.
It wasn't "subverted"--that was the whole point of it.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (ZKzrr)
There is no greater bully, than an anti-bullying advocate...
(don't pick on people, be accepting of others, basic message of
kindness) has been subverted and re-purposed into a new bullying tool by
human nature.
It wasn't "subverted"--that was the whole point of it.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (ZKzrr)
There is no greater bully, than an anti-bullying advocate...
Posted by: Anti-Bullying is discriminatory against bullies and like triggering and stuff... at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (2l+KS)
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(1) A trigger is anything that I dislike.
(2) A micro-aggression is something that I said has happened that I deem bad.
(3) A hater is any person who disagrees with me.
(4) A malignant control freak is anyone who believes/practices 1-3.
(2) A micro-aggression is something that I said has happened that I deem bad.
(3) A hater is any person who disagrees with me.
(4) A malignant control freak is anyone who believes/practices 1-3.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (hLRSq)
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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at M
A poster earlier today -Wendy- noted that if they're so anguished and triggered by reading Ovid, why are they reading "The Color Purple" which contains, among other things- a rape? I guess it's because Ovid is a long dead white male?
A poster earlier today -Wendy- noted that if they're so anguished and triggered by reading Ovid, why are they reading "The Color Purple" which contains, among other things- a rape? I guess it's because Ovid is a long dead white male?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (1sJza)
Posted by: Soothie at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (sGw0h)
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241 Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted by: Trigger Warning
Sometimes a cigar is a symbolic penis.
Posted by: Trigger Warning
Sometimes a cigar is a symbolic penis.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (/rA4q)
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (VAsIq)
Tell me about it...
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (VAsIq)
Tell me about it...
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (2l+KS)
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (VAsIq)
Tell me about it...
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:52 AM (VAsIq)
Tell me about it...
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (2l+KS)
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Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (MYCIw)
Because children live much closer to life or death decisions that they do in today's bubble wrap society.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (MYCIw)
Because children live much closer to life or death decisions that they do in today's bubble wrap society.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (sWgE+)
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Absolutely not one iota of disrespect or disagreement on the specifics of rd's perspective, which seems solid.
But I just cannot react to all this nonsense other than that it is, obviously, nonsense. And a jaw-dropping, humiliating sign that our society itself has become fundamentally unserious (which as a polity and an electorate we obviously have become). It's not *just* that I lack the words or background to make more weight-sounding conclusions on this, it's that they aren't warranted.
All of this is, obviously, completely ridiculous.
Oh - and still haven't finished my re-readConquest's Great Terror (revised edition), but gotta say, rd being banned by Pixy reminds me of Stalin's terror - nobody is safe, even the insiders can find themselves banned or thrown to the wolves. Pixy has achieved stalinesque total terror in the AOSHQ community. Curious.
Absolutely not one iota of disrespect or disagreement on the specifics of rd's perspective, which seems solid.
But I just cannot react to all this nonsense other than that it is, obviously, nonsense. And a jaw-dropping, humiliating sign that our society itself has become fundamentally unserious (which as a polity and an electorate we obviously have become). It's not *just* that I lack the words or background to make more weight-sounding conclusions on this, it's that they aren't warranted.
All of this is, obviously, completely ridiculous.
Oh - and still haven't finished my re-readConquest's Great Terror (revised edition), but gotta say, rd being banned by Pixy reminds me of Stalin's terror - nobody is safe, even the insiders can find themselves banned or thrown to the wolves. Pixy has achieved stalinesque total terror in the AOSHQ community. Curious.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (afQnV)
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See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the
human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue
up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Actually, marriage and children at 15 has historically been rare. Young women often lived with family until 18-19, or even their early twenties.
And even for those who married early, they usually had family support networks to rely on day to day.
See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the
human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue
up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Actually, marriage and children at 15 has historically been rare. Young women often lived with family until 18-19, or even their early twenties.
And even for those who married early, they usually had family support networks to rely on day to day.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (+eQ0e)
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Great post!
I'd say that along with this whole "triggering" movement there also has been a shift in interpretation of speech/written text, so that regardless of the speaker's/writer's intent, it is the listener's/reader's interpretation that matters.
This give our special snowflakes who are oh so exquisitely sensitive to offense license to twist the meaning of something inoffensive into total offensive - and it's all the speaker's/writer's fault (even though they've been misinterpreted).
Perfect example is the DC city worker who used the word "niggardly" properly/in context but was fired because the person who heard him though he was using the "n word."
I'd say that along with this whole "triggering" movement there also has been a shift in interpretation of speech/written text, so that regardless of the speaker's/writer's intent, it is the listener's/reader's interpretation that matters.
This give our special snowflakes who are oh so exquisitely sensitive to offense license to twist the meaning of something inoffensive into total offensive - and it's all the speaker's/writer's fault (even though they've been misinterpreted).
Perfect example is the DC city worker who used the word "niggardly" properly/in context but was fired because the person who heard him though he was using the "n word."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (2TN4k)
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Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (MYCIw)
Because children live much closer to life or death decisions that they do in today's bubble wrap society.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (sWgE+)
Socialism breeds perpetual children... completely dependent on the state.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:53 AM (MYCIw)
Because children live much closer to life or death decisions that they do in today's bubble wrap society.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:54 AM (sWgE+)
Socialism breeds perpetual children... completely dependent on the state.
Posted by: Alexandra Kollontai at May 13, 2015 10:56 AM (2l+KS)
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Pixy has achieved stalinesque total terror in the AOSHQ community. Curious.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (afQnV)
He has a five year plan.
Just like Hill!
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (afQnV)
He has a five year plan.
Just like Hill!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 13, 2015 10:56 AM (/rA4q)
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Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Posted by: Lauren
lol We didn't learn about that in class. History only talked about slavery in America until Martin Luther King, Jr. (Peace Be Upon Him) freed everyone in the 70s after the a world war. Abraham Lincoln helped, but we didn't talk about 15-year-olds.
Posted by: Lauren
lol We didn't learn about that in class. History only talked about slavery in America until Martin Luther King, Jr. (Peace Be Upon Him) freed everyone in the 70s after the a world war. Abraham Lincoln helped, but we didn't talk about 15-year-olds.
Posted by: Millenial at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (VAsIq)
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I give up on humanity. Bring forth SMOD.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (4df7R)
Why give up when so many are turning themselves into prey before your eyes?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (4df7R)
Why give up when so many are turning themselves into prey before your eyes?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (hLRSq)
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White Privilege means the only triggers we have are on our guns.
Posted by: Dang at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (XWo4d)
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And then there's our ultimate trigger warriors:
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (MYCIw)
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De-proxifying...
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (2l+KS)
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Back
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 13, 2015 10:58 AM (7YlUk)
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Some people believe different things from you.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 10:58 AM (VAsIq)
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261 And then there's our ultimate trigger warriors:
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (MYCIw)
Man, when things go tango uniform it's going to be a target rich environment.
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (MYCIw)
Man, when things go tango uniform it's going to be a target rich environment.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 10:59 AM (sWgE+)
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242 " The brain doesn't really mature until around age 25, and young women in this age category are basically hormone-demons looking for any excuse to conduct a dramatic freak out."
See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
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A lot of them weren't. A lot of 15 year old boys in the past just flat died from acting recklessly and impulsively, and most 15 year old girls in 1856 were probably catty and sensitive and prone to gossip much like the current crop.
Different expectations did lead to different behaviors, sure, but that doesn't disprove the fact that brains really do stop maturing around age 24-26, which has been found in a large number of studies.
See, I'd be more willing to buy into that if the human race hadn't relied on mothers far younger than that to continue up until very recently.
Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
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A lot of them weren't. A lot of 15 year old boys in the past just flat died from acting recklessly and impulsively, and most 15 year old girls in 1856 were probably catty and sensitive and prone to gossip much like the current crop.
Different expectations did lead to different behaviors, sure, but that doesn't disprove the fact that brains really do stop maturing around age 24-26, which has been found in a large number of studies.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 10:59 AM (GvNnD)
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>>There is no greater bully, than an anti-bullying advocate...
I don't know what you're talking about....
I don't know what you're talking about....
Posted by: Dan Savage at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (2TN4k)
Posted by: Bill Clinton and his perv legacy at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (XWo4d)
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Mr President, I would like to associate myself with the remarks of my distinguished colleagues soothie, alextc, HR, Anna Puma, and others above. And I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
Presiding officer - the clerk will call the roll.
Mr President, I would like to associate myself with the remarks of my distinguished colleagues soothie, alextc, HR, Anna Puma, and others above. And I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
Presiding officer - the clerk will call the roll.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (afQnV)
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Perfect example is the DC city worker who used the word "niggardly" properly/in context but was fired because the person who heard him though he was using the "n word."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (2TN4k)
The Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams tells the story about how he was disciplined for using the word pedagogy. It was a trigger word for those employees with children.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 13, 2015 10:55 AM (2TN4k)
The Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams tells the story about how he was disciplined for using the word pedagogy. It was a trigger word for those employees with children.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (/rA4q)
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But it has been swiped and used inappropriately.
That's putting it lightly to the point of being inarticulate. It's been weaponized by people who, given the means and opportunity, would happily march people like us off to re-education camps to submit or be killed....
....with a stupid Mr. Rodgers smile on their faces and zero trace of conscience.
213 As a Marine veteran, I am incapable of "micro aggression" but some of these jackasses may see actual aggression* if they continue to push too far.
* not a threat, merely an observation based upon my life experiences...
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (WJ06A)
Fuckin' A right, brother. Drop me off at the ASP.
That's putting it lightly to the point of being inarticulate. It's been weaponized by people who, given the means and opportunity, would happily march people like us off to re-education camps to submit or be killed....
....with a stupid Mr. Rodgers smile on their faces and zero trace of conscience.
213 As a Marine veteran, I am incapable of "micro aggression" but some of these jackasses may see actual aggression* if they continue to push too far.
* not a threat, merely an observation based upon my life experiences...
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at May 13, 2015 10:46 AM (WJ06A)
Fuckin' A right, brother. Drop me off at the ASP.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (aWSo+)
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I'd say that along with this whole "triggering" movement there also has
been a shift in interpretation of speech/written text, so that
regardless of the speaker's/writer's intent, it is the listener's/reader's interpretation that matters.
*glares at postmodernism* Thank you, postmodernism. Now go f*ck yourself.
been a shift in interpretation of speech/written text, so that
regardless of the speaker's/writer's intent, it is the listener's/reader's interpretation that matters.
*glares at postmodernism* Thank you, postmodernism. Now go f*ck yourself.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 11:01 AM (4df7R)
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need to add another question - if your position is correct, why does your side always feel the need to shut down our side's speech?
People who think they can win a debate welcome the opportunity. Conversely...
People who think they can win a debate welcome the opportunity. Conversely...
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 13, 2015 11:01 AM (O7MnT)
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Women's brains don't start maturing until menopause.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 13, 2015 11:01 AM (hqZPQ)
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Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 10:59 AM (GvNnD)
The counter point being that my grandmother had a husband and 3 kids by the time she was 25...
Of course, i can't speak to her cattiness in her early 20s...
The counter point being that my grandmother had a husband and 3 kids by the time she was 25...
Of course, i can't speak to her cattiness in her early 20s...
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:01 AM (AkOaV)
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The Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams tells the story about how he was disciplined for using the word pedagogy. It was a trigger word for those employees with children.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (/rA4q)
Beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:00 AM (/rA4q)
Beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 11:02 AM (aWSo+)
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Women's and men's brains interpret stimuli in different ways.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 11:02 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:02 AM (VAsIq)
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Back when I was growing up we had a short name fpr people like this. We called them assholes and what they gor was a punch in the face.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2015 11:03 AM (wlDny)
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Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 11:02 AM (VAsIq)
Possibly, but it was only a few generations ago when an 18 year old was considered a full on adult with all responsibilities of an adult (except voting, that came later).
Possibly, but it was only a few generations ago when an 18 year old was considered a full on adult with all responsibilities of an adult (except voting, that came later).
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 13, 2015 11:03 AM (AkOaV)
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And then there's our ultimate trigger warriors:
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate
group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes
killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
So gays killed by ISIS were just inviting killers to come in and disturb peace, and butt fucking. But mostly peace.
"Let me talk a little bit about ISIS," said Siblani. "ISIS is a hate
group, exactly like Pamela Geller. She draws killers. She makes
killers. She is inviting killers to come in and disturb peace."
So gays killed by ISIS were just inviting killers to come in and disturb peace, and butt fucking. But mostly peace.
Posted by: Dang at May 13, 2015 11:04 AM (XWo4d)
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" and most 15 year old girls in 1856 were probably catty and sensitive and prone to gossip much like the current crop"
Sure, but they were functional. And while teen boys were reckless and crazy, they were also functional. I'm not even talking about the far removed past.
My grandma had her first child at 15. My grandpa (other side) was a Marine in Korea at 19.
I know that we still have young servicemen, and it's quite doubtful that they're the ones hypeventilating over trigger warnings, so maybe that's not the best example, but it doesn't change the fact that "incomplete brain development" didn't stop our society from spitting out functional young people until very recently.
Sure, but they were functional. And while teen boys were reckless and crazy, they were also functional. I'm not even talking about the far removed past.
My grandma had her first child at 15. My grandpa (other side) was a Marine in Korea at 19.
I know that we still have young servicemen, and it's quite doubtful that they're the ones hypeventilating over trigger warnings, so maybe that's not the best example, but it doesn't change the fact that "incomplete brain development" didn't stop our society from spitting out functional young people until very recently.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:04 AM (MYCIw)
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>>Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
Because they had to be.
Good friend's grandfather used to love telling stories about growing up during the Depression. He was one of 16 kids, and he dropped out of school in 3rd grade to help support the family. His mom made money doing things like laundry, ironing, baking pies, etc. for people in the neighborhood - so he would stay busy carting stuff around (and all other sorts of small money making schemes). After working in the engine room of a ship in the Navy, he came home and opened up his own machine shops and had a nice successful business that supported the family, put all his kids through college, etc.
He didn't have time sit around an whine - he got busy surviving, and despite never getting through grade school, was a smart guy (like Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School).
Because they had to be.
Good friend's grandfather used to love telling stories about growing up during the Depression. He was one of 16 kids, and he dropped out of school in 3rd grade to help support the family. His mom made money doing things like laundry, ironing, baking pies, etc. for people in the neighborhood - so he would stay busy carting stuff around (and all other sorts of small money making schemes). After working in the engine room of a ship in the Navy, he came home and opened up his own machine shops and had a nice successful business that supported the family, put all his kids through college, etc.
He didn't have time sit around an whine - he got busy surviving, and despite never getting through grade school, was a smart guy (like Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School).
Posted by: Dan Savage at May 13, 2015 11:05 AM (2TN4k)
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The lack of an Art Open Thread has triggered me. Guess I'll do some work now.
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Crap. Sock off..
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The celebration of Father's Day is bad for the environment because it kills Mulberry trees in service to The Worms for Teh Ties
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 11:06 AM (3ZtZW)
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Why give up when so many are turning themselves into prey before your eyes?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (hLRSq)
It's true. These snowflakes fall into my lowest category of Zombie Apocalypse Survival Groups.
1) Survivalists - People who can do just fine on their own and don't require the support of a group (think Daryl on "Walking Dead")
2) Survivors - People who can adapt and survive by working cooperatively with others.
3) Victims - People who can't adapt, and can ONLY survive through the beneficence of others. They can still be valuable, but they need protection.
4) Zombie Food - Useless people who can't adapt and refuse to admit that the world has changed. They are poison to any cohesive group, and their sole use in a zombie apocalypse is to serve as a distraction while everyone else escapes certain death. These are the people I'd be tossing off the back of a speeding truck to be torn to pieces by the zombie horde as me and my group haul ass for safety.
99% of today's SJW snowflakes? Category 4.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Buy A Malediction, Get an Imaginary Insult Half Off! at May 13, 2015 10:57 AM (hLRSq)
It's true. These snowflakes fall into my lowest category of Zombie Apocalypse Survival Groups.
1) Survivalists - People who can do just fine on their own and don't require the support of a group (think Daryl on "Walking Dead")
2) Survivors - People who can adapt and survive by working cooperatively with others.
3) Victims - People who can't adapt, and can ONLY survive through the beneficence of others. They can still be valuable, but they need protection.
4) Zombie Food - Useless people who can't adapt and refuse to admit that the world has changed. They are poison to any cohesive group, and their sole use in a zombie apocalypse is to serve as a distraction while everyone else escapes certain death. These are the people I'd be tossing off the back of a speeding truck to be torn to pieces by the zombie horde as me and my group haul ass for safety.
99% of today's SJW snowflakes? Category 4.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (4df7R)
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286 The celebration of Father's Day is bad for the environment because it kills Mulberry trees in service to The Worms for Teh Ties
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 11:06 AM (3ZtZW)
Kill every Mulberry tree. Just ammo dumps for pigeons.
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 11:06 AM (3ZtZW)
Kill every Mulberry tree. Just ammo dumps for pigeons.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (/rA4q)
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Not to be all doom and gloom, but what if parts of the track were sabotaged in last nights derailment?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (sWgE+)
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A "safe space" is just a convenient place to find a bunch of helpless fools for a maniac with a gun.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (VAsIq)
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275 Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 10:59 AM (GvNnD)
The counter point being that my grandmother had a husband and 3 kids by the time she was 25...
Of course, i can't speak to her cattiness in her early 20s...
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I had a husband and four kids by 25. 23, in fact. But I was still a bit of a shit when it came to gossip and that sort of thing.
That's another thing. Responsibility for a child =\= emotional maturity. Taking care of a kid is draining, but it's not actual that difficult and only requires pretty basic impulse control, like "don't fling the baby in sheer frustration". The real hard, long-term stuff like financial planning (which women who married young in the WayBack never dealt with) and relationships is what takes emotional maturity. And even today, there are absolute shit-tons of people who have kids and jobs in their early 20s but don't really get a handle on their finances and good long-term relationships til their 30s.
The counter point being that my grandmother had a husband and 3 kids by the time she was 25...
Of course, i can't speak to her cattiness in her early 20s...
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I had a husband and four kids by 25. 23, in fact. But I was still a bit of a shit when it came to gossip and that sort of thing.
That's another thing. Responsibility for a child =\= emotional maturity. Taking care of a kid is draining, but it's not actual that difficult and only requires pretty basic impulse control, like "don't fling the baby in sheer frustration". The real hard, long-term stuff like financial planning (which women who married young in the WayBack never dealt with) and relationships is what takes emotional maturity. And even today, there are absolute shit-tons of people who have kids and jobs in their early 20s but don't really get a handle on their finances and good long-term relationships til their 30s.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (GvNnD)
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Ruh Roh. Hammer-wielding psycho killed by NYC cops.
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (7ObY1)
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but it doesn't change the fact that "incomplete brain development" didn't stop our society from spitting out functional young people until very recently.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:04 AM (MYCIw)
'zactly. Good description.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:04 AM (MYCIw)
'zactly. Good description.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (aWSo+)
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290 Not to be all doom and gloom, but what if parts of the track were sabotaged in last nights derailment?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (sWgE+)
Drudge has a story up now.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (sWgE+)
Drudge has a story up now.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (/rA4q)
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>>Why was a 15 year old in 1856 so much more mature than a 25 year old today?
"Walking in the Cemetary I see
Many graves as Tall as Me."
- McGuffey's Reader, circa 18-something
"Walking in the Cemetary I see
Many graves as Tall as Me."
- McGuffey's Reader, circa 18-something
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (3ZtZW)
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"Triggers" is just a fancy way to silence Other.
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Couldn't they just go sit at the children's table and let the adults talk?
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Couldn't they just go sit at the children's table and let the adults talk?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (XUKZU)
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Which AA gun apparently had a trigger.
Posted by: scottst at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (Ltygl)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:10 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at May 13, 2015 11:10 AM (VAsIq)
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298 Which AA gun apparently had a trigger.
Posted by: scottst at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (Ltygl)
Lanyard warning?
Posted by: scottst at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (Ltygl)
Lanyard warning?
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:10 AM (/rA4q)
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287 North Korea defense minister executed for sleeping.
By amti-aircraft gun.
Posted by: scottst at May 13, 2015 11:07 AM (Ltygl)
So he was definitely triggered.
(Try the veal!)
By amti-aircraft gun.
Posted by: scottst at May 13, 2015 11:07 AM (Ltygl)
So he was definitely triggered.
(Try the veal!)
Posted by: Shecky joncelli at May 13, 2015 11:10 AM (RD7QR)
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290 Not to be all doom and gloom, but what if parts of the track were sabotaged in last nights derailment?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (sWgE+)
Drudge has a story up now.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (/rA4q)
Yesterday he ran a story about thugs putting stuff on subway tracks.
290 Not to be all doom and gloom, but what if parts of the track were sabotaged in last nights derailment?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:08 AM (sWgE+)
Drudge has a story up now.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (/rA4q)
Yesterday he ran a story about thugs putting stuff on subway tracks.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (0FSuD)
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Ruh Roh. Hammer-wielding psycho killed by NYC cops.
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X
Aspiring home-builder.
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X
Aspiring home-builder.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (VAsIq)
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North Korea defense minister executed for sleeping.
By amti-aircraft gun.Posted by: scottst ****Next up: Execution by trebuchet!Seriously, it's like a little evil kid is coming up with these ways of execution.
By amti-aircraft gun.Posted by: scottst ****Next up: Execution by trebuchet!Seriously, it's like a little evil kid is coming up with these ways of execution.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (1JqUE)
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That's another thing. Responsibility for a child =\= emotional maturity. Taking care of a kid is draining, but it's not actual that difficult and only requires pretty basic impulse control, like "don't fling the baby in sheer frustration". The real hard, long-term stuff like financial planning (which women who married young in the WayBack never dealt with) and relationships is what takes emotional maturity. And even today, there are absolute shit-tons of people who have kids and jobs in their early 20s but don't really get a handle on their finances and good long-term relationships til their 30s.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (GvNnD)
+ 1 !
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (GvNnD)
+ 1 !
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (aWSo+)
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300 North Korea defense minister executed for sleeping.
He already had a beef with Kim Jong-Funsized.
10 bucks says they put roofies in his water to give them an excuse.
He already had a beef with Kim Jong-Funsized.
10 bucks says they put roofies in his water to give them an excuse.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (7ObY1)
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>>>> Seriously, it's like a little evil kid is coming up with these ways of execution.
YOU'RE A BAD MAN! YOU'RE A REALLY BAD MAN!
YOU'RE A BAD MAN! YOU'RE A REALLY BAD MAN!
Posted by: Bigby's Brass Knuckles at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (3ZtZW)
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Yesterday he ran a story about thugs putting stuff on subway tracks.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (0FSuD)
Nope, can't be, the media says it's the Reps fault because of infrastructure funding or something...
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (0FSuD)
Nope, can't be, the media says it's the Reps fault because of infrastructure funding or something...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (Bn6aD)
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And I think the New Victorians would be an awesome name for a band, if it is not already one! I'm sure Dave Barry would agree with me were he still writing columns.
They would never open for the New Romantics, that's for damn sure.
They would never open for the New Romantics, that's for damn sure.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (DT3rQ)
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Aspiring home-builder.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (VAsIq)
Turning his life around.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (VAsIq)
Turning his life around.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Bob Crane's Porno Beret at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (/rA4q)
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Ruh Roh. Hammer-wielding psycho killed by NYC cops.
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X
You know what they say--"When all you've got is a hammer...."
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X
You know what they say--"When all you've got is a hammer...."
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:12 AM (VAsIq)
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That's another thing. Responsibility for a child =\= emotional maturity.
That's a really unpopular opinion around here, despite newspapers and courtrooms teeming with proof.
That's a really unpopular opinion around here, despite newspapers and courtrooms teeming with proof.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 11:13 AM (ZKzrr)
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293 Ruh Roh. Hammer-wielding psycho killed by NYC cops.
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (7ObY1)
St. Dead Blow
Hammer-Wielding Psycho was black.
St. Ball-peen?
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:09 AM (7ObY1)
St. Dead Blow
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 13, 2015 11:13 AM (aWSo+)
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10 bucks says they put roofies in his water to give them an excuse.
Posted by: Citizen X
That's not what roofies are for!
Posted by: Citizen X
That's not what roofies are for!
Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 13, 2015 11:13 AM (VAsIq)
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"The real hard, long-term stuff like financial planning (which women who married young in the WayBack never dealt with) and relationships is what takes emotional maturity."
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
As far as relationships, well expectations about what made a good marriage were different, so it's hard to really compare then vs now, but there's no question that the divorce rate exploded in the not too distant past.
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
As far as relationships, well expectations about what made a good marriage were different, so it's hard to really compare then vs now, but there's no question that the divorce rate exploded in the not too distant past.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (ZKzrr)
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Have y'all heard the latest trigger warning
nonsense? Apparently a bunch of Columbia students are up in arms about
having to read Ovid, because his "The Metamophoses" contains triggering
elements, like the Rape of Persephone.Reason: http://t.co/6cEsk2N2YPI give up on humanity. Bring forth SMOD. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (4df7R)
But I bet they loooooove watching Game of Thrones! No rapes and sads in that show, no sireee.
Selective safe spaces!
nonsense? Apparently a bunch of Columbia students are up in arms about
having to read Ovid, because his "The Metamophoses" contains triggering
elements, like the Rape of Persephone.Reason: http://t.co/6cEsk2N2YPI give up on humanity. Bring forth SMOD. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 13, 2015 10:48 AM (4df7R)
But I bet they loooooove watching Game of Thrones! No rapes and sads in that show, no sireee.
Selective safe spaces!
Posted by: LizLem, servant of the cross (deal with it ISIS) at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (yRwC8)
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The victims were apparently all women.
I'm gonna...get me a hammer and kill all the wimminz I see...
I'm gonna...get me a hammer and kill all the wimminz I see...
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (7ObY1)
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282 " and most 15 year old girls in 1856 were probably catty and sensitive and prone to gossip much like the current crop"
Sure, but they were functional. And while teen boys were reckless and crazy, they were also functional. I'm not even talking about the far removed past.
My grandma had her first child at 15. My grandpa (other side) was a Marine in Korea at 19.
I know that we still have young servicemen, and it's quite doubtful that they're the ones hypeventilating over trigger warnings, so maybe that's not the best example, but it doesn't change the fact that "incomplete brain development" didn't stop our society from spitting out functional young people until very recently.
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Eh, most 15 year olds are functional today. If they were expected to be functional in a harsher society, most of them probably could. They'd just function better at 25 than at 15.
I just don't like the idea of "not buying" that brain imaging had found that brain maturation stops around 24-26 based on your own family's maturity. It rings of "not buying" that cigarette smoking causes cancer because my Uncle Tito lived to be 90 and smoked since he was 10, y'know?
Sure, but they were functional. And while teen boys were reckless and crazy, they were also functional. I'm not even talking about the far removed past.
My grandma had her first child at 15. My grandpa (other side) was a Marine in Korea at 19.
I know that we still have young servicemen, and it's quite doubtful that they're the ones hypeventilating over trigger warnings, so maybe that's not the best example, but it doesn't change the fact that "incomplete brain development" didn't stop our society from spitting out functional young people until very recently.
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Eh, most 15 year olds are functional today. If they were expected to be functional in a harsher society, most of them probably could. They'd just function better at 25 than at 15.
I just don't like the idea of "not buying" that brain imaging had found that brain maturation stops around 24-26 based on your own family's maturity. It rings of "not buying" that cigarette smoking causes cancer because my Uncle Tito lived to be 90 and smoked since he was 10, y'know?
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (GvNnD)
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but what if parts of the track were sabotaged in last nights derailment?
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!!!!
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!!!!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (XUKZU)
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...bad for the environment because it kills Mulberry trees.
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I only got as far as "kills Mul..." before I was triggered.
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I only got as far as "kills Mul..." before I was triggered.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (lHb9q)
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BAN HAMMERS!
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (ZKzrr)
Especially the ones with the thing that goes up!
BAN HAMMERS!
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 11:14 AM (ZKzrr)
Especially the ones with the thing that goes up!
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (7ObY1)
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That's not what roofies are for!
Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 13, 2015 11:13 AM (VAsIq)
I hear ya bro.
Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 13, 2015 11:13 AM (VAsIq)
I hear ya bro.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (/rA4q)
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And yes, I think that successfully raising a child does show emotional maturity. Not the act of having a child, but the ability to raise them to not be sociopaths.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (MYCIw)
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Great post, rdbrewer! Thanks for sharing, especially of something so personal.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (aQssP)
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The only anniversary in Philly that might trigger some sort of attack is today is the 30th anniversary of a Philly mayor and the radical (but not islamic) group MOVE.
My gut says too high speed around sharp curve. Probably drugs.
My gut says too high speed around sharp curve. Probably drugs.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 11:15 AM (xQX/f)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 13, 2015 11:16 AM (sWgE+)
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All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama should punish Bush for this train wreck in Philiadelphioa because he cut off the money to upgrade the syste. Bush does not care because these people did not vote for him and they are persons of color. Presdent Obama does care and will fix the bush problem and the people will love him even more. Bush lied and persons of color in Philadelphia died !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clinic think President Obama should punish Bush for this train wreck in Philiadelphioa because he cut off the money to upgrade the syste. Bush does not care because these people did not vote for him and they are persons of color. Presdent Obama does care and will fix the bush problem and the people will love him even more. Bush lied and persons of color in Philadelphia died !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 13, 2015 11:16 AM (Sd++4)
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sung to the tune of I'm a Little Teapot:
"I'm a little Snowflake, weak and frail
Here is my trigger, that's why I fail
When you hit my trigger, I will pout,
I'm a Special Snowflake, there's no doubt."
(Oops, guess I'm a Cookie Jar).
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (lHb9q)
I'm a Little Teapot
That's my shape
All men ignore me
So I cry rape
If I was much smarter
A good life I'd make
But I'm just a whiny
Little Special Snowflake
"I'm a little Snowflake, weak and frail
Here is my trigger, that's why I fail
When you hit my trigger, I will pout,
I'm a Special Snowflake, there's no doubt."
(Oops, guess I'm a Cookie Jar).
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 10:51 AM (lHb9q)
I'm a Little Teapot
That's my shape
All men ignore me
So I cry rape
If I was much smarter
A good life I'd make
But I'm just a whiny
Little Special Snowflake
Posted by: naturalfake at May 13, 2015 11:17 AM (KUa85)
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You know what they say--"When all you've got is a hammer...."
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All the world begins to look like an incoming JHP round?
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All the world begins to look like an incoming JHP round?
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at May 13, 2015 11:17 AM (lHb9q)
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316 "The real hard, long-term stuff like financial planning (which women who married young in the WayBack never dealt with) and relationships is what takes emotional maturity."
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
As far as relationships, well expectations about what made a good marriage were different, so it's hard to really compare then vs now, but there's no question that the divorce rate exploded in the not too distant past.
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There was some, but it was usually done with a family and very few 15 year old farm brides were in charge of their family's finances. Most young couples, especially farming couples, lived (sometimes in the same house, sometimes just nearby) and worked with their families. And again, a shit ton if them failed then, as now. It's the ones who didn't that make it into history books.
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
As far as relationships, well expectations about what made a good marriage were different, so it's hard to really compare then vs now, but there's no question that the divorce rate exploded in the not too distant past.
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There was some, but it was usually done with a family and very few 15 year old farm brides were in charge of their family's finances. Most young couples, especially farming couples, lived (sometimes in the same house, sometimes just nearby) and worked with their families. And again, a shit ton if them failed then, as now. It's the ones who didn't that make it into history books.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:17 AM (GvNnD)
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I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like
financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to
figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
It's nice your family has no stories about Great-grandpa dying suddenly and Great-Grandma having to move into town with her sister because she didn't know the farm was mortgaged to the hilt, but I don't think you can generalize anything from your family's stories.
financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to
figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
It's nice your family has no stories about Great-grandpa dying suddenly and Great-Grandma having to move into town with her sister because she didn't know the farm was mortgaged to the hilt, but I don't think you can generalize anything from your family's stories.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 13, 2015 11:17 AM (ZKzrr)
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Ace is awake.
Posted by: HH at May 13, 2015 11:18 AM (Ce4DF)
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"I just don't like the idea of "not buying" that brain imaging had found that brain maturation stops around 24-26 based on your own family's maturity. It rings of "not buying" that cigarette smoking causes cancer because my Uncle Tito lived to be 90 and smoked since he was 10, y'know?"
I don't buy that it matters or should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood.
And no, most 15 year olds today are not functional. Most 25 year olds today are not functional. If you sue your professor for failing his class twice, you are not a functional human being. If you cry about needing a trigger warning because of a scary movie, you are not a functional human being. If you can't figure out how to go to Dillard's to get a suit for a job interview, you are not a functional human being.
I don't buy that it matters or should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood.
And no, most 15 year olds today are not functional. Most 25 year olds today are not functional. If you sue your professor for failing his class twice, you are not a functional human being. If you cry about needing a trigger warning because of a scary movie, you are not a functional human being. If you can't figure out how to go to Dillard's to get a suit for a job interview, you are not a functional human being.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:19 AM (MYCIw)
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nood Amtrak
Posted by: Citizen X at May 13, 2015 11:19 AM (7ObY1)
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I don't believe in triggering. Just don't show me the Queen of Diamonds, OK?
Posted by: Raymond Shaw at May 13, 2015 11:19 AM (oKE6c)
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A lot of them weren't. A lot of 15 year old boys in the past just flat died from acting recklessly and impulsively,
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Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 11:19 AM (DT3rQ)
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Probably said up-thread: but triggering is the by-product of the progressives making victims into heroes/highest moral authority.
That's why Jackie peddled that gang rape story for so long - there was great power in her victimhood; it made her well-know at the campus rape center, people paid attention to her, etc. The Dems constantly use victims to silence others - Cindy Sheehan, Gabby Giffords - because they're victims, so their feeling matter more than everyone else's.
That's why Jackie peddled that gang rape story for so long - there was great power in her victimhood; it made her well-know at the campus rape center, people paid attention to her, etc. The Dems constantly use victims to silence others - Cindy Sheehan, Gabby Giffords - because they're victims, so their feeling matter more than everyone else's.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 13, 2015 11:20 AM (2TN4k)
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Aspiring home-builder.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (VAsIq)
Raps while he hammers.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 13, 2015 11:11 AM (VAsIq)
Raps while he hammers.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 13, 2015 11:21 AM (0FSuD)
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Wow, way to be a super bitch HR.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:21 AM (MYCIw)
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Nood. Train wreck.
Posted by: johnd01 at May 13, 2015 11:21 AM (ukNFU)
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>>>
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like
financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to
figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
The very, very best workers I see my age or younger are ones that have grown up on farms. Doesn't matter if they go on to do design, like one of my BFFs, or writing like Larry Correia. Farming teaches you to be a workhorse, and that life doesn't give a crap about you (cows gotta be milked whether or not you want to do it.) You gotta bend to life and just plow on through and do your stuff. They were also the most financially responsible, because you HAVE to learn to budget so that the financial harvest you get in the summer/fall months lasts the rest of the year.
Hardworking ants all of them, bless them. Too bad our current society is doing all it can to raise a generation of grasshoppers instead.
I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like
financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to
figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
The very, very best workers I see my age or younger are ones that have grown up on farms. Doesn't matter if they go on to do design, like one of my BFFs, or writing like Larry Correia. Farming teaches you to be a workhorse, and that life doesn't give a crap about you (cows gotta be milked whether or not you want to do it.) You gotta bend to life and just plow on through and do your stuff. They were also the most financially responsible, because you HAVE to learn to budget so that the financial harvest you get in the summer/fall months lasts the rest of the year.
Hardworking ants all of them, bless them. Too bad our current society is doing all it can to raise a generation of grasshoppers instead.
Posted by: LizLem, servant of the cross (deal with it ISIS) at May 13, 2015 11:21 AM (yRwC8)
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Roy Rogers triggered ME.
Posted by: Trigger at May 13, 2015 11:22 AM (oKE6c)
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325 And yes, I think that successfully raising a child does show emotional maturity. Not the act of having a child, but the ability to raise them to not be sociopaths.
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We've actually gotten more empathetic and raised fewer sociopaths as the age of marriage has gone up. And I think most of the stuff requiring the most emotional maturity (sympathizing when your kid has a spat with a friend, helping your child fit in at school, good discipline) comes after the first few years. So a 19 year old parent would be fairly well equipped to handle a 6 year olds bigger discipline challenges.
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We've actually gotten more empathetic and raised fewer sociopaths as the age of marriage has gone up. And I think most of the stuff requiring the most emotional maturity (sympathizing when your kid has a spat with a friend, helping your child fit in at school, good discipline) comes after the first few years. So a 19 year old parent would be fairly well equipped to handle a 6 year olds bigger discipline challenges.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:22 AM (GvNnD)
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Oh, was that catty? I guess it's just because my brain isn't quite developed.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:22 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 13, 2015 11:22 AM (DT3rQ)
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335 "I just don't like the idea of "not buying" that brain imaging had found that brain maturation stops around 24-26 based on your own family's maturity. It rings of "not buying" that cigarette smoking causes cancer because my Uncle Tito lived to be 90 and smoked since he was 10, y'know?"
I don't buy that it matters or should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood.
And no, most 15 year olds today are not functional. Most 25 year olds today are not functional. If you sue your professor for failing his class twice, you are not a functional human being. If you cry about needing a trigger warning because of a scary movie, you are not a functional human being. If you can't figure out how to go to Dillard's to get a suit for a job interview, you are not a functional human being.
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I don't buy that it should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood, but of course it matters some.
I don't buy that it matters or should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood.
And no, most 15 year olds today are not functional. Most 25 year olds today are not functional. If you sue your professor for failing his class twice, you are not a functional human being. If you cry about needing a trigger warning because of a scary movie, you are not a functional human being. If you can't figure out how to go to Dillard's to get a suit for a job interview, you are not a functional human being.
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I don't buy that it should be used as an excuse for perpetual childhood, but of course it matters some.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:24 AM (GvNnD)
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My private reaction: "What the hell was that?" The best reaction would have been something like, "Hi, hon. We stopped by here on the way home from work. So glad it's Friday. I'm looking forward to the cookout tonight."
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Maybe you are fishing but just let me state, of course you couldn't be expected to know this. You shouldn't beat yourself up over that.
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Maybe you are fishing but just let me state, of course you couldn't be expected to know this. You shouldn't beat yourself up over that.
Posted by: Obama at May 13, 2015 11:24 AM (xkSSa)
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Most 15 year olds are, in fact, functional. Most are going to school and not in trouble with the law. It's asinine to assert otherwise. There's a difference between wanting different things for society and running around being a chicken little.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:26 AM (GvNnD)
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I was with this woman last month and I pulled her trigger, over and over again. Or pushed her button. Repeatedly. Or molested the little man in the boat. Until he could take no more. Choose your metaphor.
Posted by: Sphynx at May 13, 2015 11:26 AM (OZmbA)
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Going to school isn't an indication of anything when there are mandatory attendance laws. Are those 15 year olds in any way prepared to be adults and support themselves upon graduation? For 90%, the answer is no.
Unless they can make a living taking instangram pictures.
Unless they can make a living taking instangram pictures.
Posted by: Lauren at May 13, 2015 11:30 AM (MYCIw)
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Nut up, or shut up.
Posted by: Tallahassee at May 13, 2015 11:30 AM (CgOBQ)
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And on top of all those unqualified interviewees they all expect to start at > $100K/year, work 40 hours per week day shift only, get 4 weeks of vacation per year to start, never travel, and be promoted every 6 months.
That is from my brother who interviews prospective engineers.
That is from my brother who interviews prospective engineers.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 13, 2015 11:32 AM (wlDny)
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I'd argue that they did deal with a lot of the hard stuff like financial planning, especially those who lived on a farm and had to figure out how to not end up homeless or starving.
Any peasant family running a pre-modern farm had to do a very complicated balancing act regarding land and livestock use that required planning years ahead in some cases - leave enough long grass in the corners of your fields to tie the grain bundles together, that tree will make a good replacement roofbeam, so lets cut it this winter and let it season for a couple years, those two calves will make a good replacement ox team for the current one in about five years, etc. Throw in variables like weather, livestock diseases, etc, to plan for and you have a pretty difficult job without ever bring currency into the mix.
Any peasant family running a pre-modern farm had to do a very complicated balancing act regarding land and livestock use that required planning years ahead in some cases - leave enough long grass in the corners of your fields to tie the grain bundles together, that tree will make a good replacement roofbeam, so lets cut it this winter and let it season for a couple years, those two calves will make a good replacement ox team for the current one in about five years, etc. Throw in variables like weather, livestock diseases, etc, to plan for and you have a pretty difficult job without ever bring currency into the mix.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 13, 2015 11:32 AM (a42f0)
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Lay person here, and I haven't read all the comments yet, but that said:
I thought the "own your emotions" movement was about really feeling what you're feeling, not squashing your emotions, rather than taking responsibility for your emotions and recognizing that feeling angry, annoyed, insulted, etc is a choice. Thus, a woman who was mildly irritated that her boyfriend never calls when he's running late (and has learned to plan for this and work around it) would be told "No, don't brush it aside that your boyfriend is disrespecting you. Own it! Allow yourself to feel angry!"
So the "own your emotions" movement may have started out right, but it was translated into an "allow yourself to enlarge every slight or inconvenience into a big fricking deal" movement. From there, it's easy to see how we moved along to the "triggering" crap we have now.
I thought the "own your emotions" movement was about really feeling what you're feeling, not squashing your emotions, rather than taking responsibility for your emotions and recognizing that feeling angry, annoyed, insulted, etc is a choice. Thus, a woman who was mildly irritated that her boyfriend never calls when he's running late (and has learned to plan for this and work around it) would be told "No, don't brush it aside that your boyfriend is disrespecting you. Own it! Allow yourself to feel angry!"
So the "own your emotions" movement may have started out right, but it was translated into an "allow yourself to enlarge every slight or inconvenience into a big fricking deal" movement. From there, it's easy to see how we moved along to the "triggering" crap we have now.
Posted by: biancaneve at May 13, 2015 11:34 AM (Zl68m)
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352 Going to school isn't an indication of anything when there are mandatory attendance laws. Are those 15 year olds in any way prepared to be adults and support themselves upon graduation? For 90%, the answer is no.
Unless they can make a living taking instangram pictures.
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Again, most 15 year olds in 1856 weren't prepared to make a living completely on their own, either. Most 15 year olds lived with family or in apprentice type roles then. And yeah, I think most 15 year olds walking around today would be able to eek out some sort of living if they had to (and were legally allowed to; most jobs have been out of reach of kids that age for a long time). But a 15 year in 1856 or 2015 would have a much harder time if it and be profoundly more likely to fuck it up then a 25 year old of the same year. Why is that so hard to agree on?
Unless they can make a living taking instangram pictures.
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Again, most 15 year olds in 1856 weren't prepared to make a living completely on their own, either. Most 15 year olds lived with family or in apprentice type roles then. And yeah, I think most 15 year olds walking around today would be able to eek out some sort of living if they had to (and were legally allowed to; most jobs have been out of reach of kids that age for a long time). But a 15 year in 1856 or 2015 would have a much harder time if it and be profoundly more likely to fuck it up then a 25 year old of the same year. Why is that so hard to agree on?
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:35 AM (GvNnD)
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Any peasant family running a pre-modern farm had to do a very complicated balancing act regarding land and livestock use that required planning years ahead in some cases - leave enough long grass in the corners of your fields to tie the grain bundles together, that tree will make a good replacement roofbeam, so lets cut it this winter and let it season for a couple years, those two calves will make a good replacement ox team for the current one in about five years, etc. Throw in variables like weather, livestock diseases, etc, to plan for and you have a pretty difficult job without ever bring currency into the mix.
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The keyword there is "family". People married young (though usually not as young as 15, more like 18-21) but they usually stayed on with family, and older relatives handled much of the long term planning. The nuclear family all alone is really recent.
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The keyword there is "family". People married young (though usually not as young as 15, more like 18-21) but they usually stayed on with family, and older relatives handled much of the long term planning. The nuclear family all alone is really recent.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 13, 2015 11:38 AM (GvNnD)
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It may seem silly, but in the face of a truly awful boss I've adopted the phrase "I'm the only person who can take away my dignity" and "I'm the only person who can make me feel bad" and it's helped.
Then again, I was raised to be a fully-functioning adult. When I first heard of "triggers" in the non-ammo sense, I was truly confused. Then I thought it must be a joke. Now I think they're far more dangerous (outside the narrow and specific window described by the poster) than real triggers. Real triggers are on guns and rifles and that's all.
Then again, I was raised to be a fully-functioning adult. When I first heard of "triggers" in the non-ammo sense, I was truly confused. Then I thought it must be a joke. Now I think they're far more dangerous (outside the narrow and specific window described by the poster) than real triggers. Real triggers are on guns and rifles and that's all.
Posted by: Biblio at May 13, 2015 11:46 AM (7o8VY)
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There's some problems with this whole theory, and I can use a recent real life episode to illustrate it:
A 'friend' of mine is aware that I am sensitive to verbal abuse.
On a trip recently, he became verbally abusive in a snarky way. Then to make matters worse, I did something accidentally that upset him.
Here is the stalemate: He is upset that I did something accidentally that offended him that I was unaware of. I am upset that he was verbally abusive multiple times, and he was aware that I am sensitive to that.
I suppose that we are both "owning" our feelings, but that idea kind of goes out the door when someone is being nasty and doing things either consciously or unconsciously to hurt you. So really, giving someone that heads up in regards to your triggers is all well and good, until that person decides to use those triggers to deliberately hurt you.
A 'friend' of mine is aware that I am sensitive to verbal abuse.
On a trip recently, he became verbally abusive in a snarky way. Then to make matters worse, I did something accidentally that upset him.
Here is the stalemate: He is upset that I did something accidentally that offended him that I was unaware of. I am upset that he was verbally abusive multiple times, and he was aware that I am sensitive to that.
I suppose that we are both "owning" our feelings, but that idea kind of goes out the door when someone is being nasty and doing things either consciously or unconsciously to hurt you. So really, giving someone that heads up in regards to your triggers is all well and good, until that person decides to use those triggers to deliberately hurt you.
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at May 13, 2015 11:52 AM (HPAiU)
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shibumi @ 360 -
The biggest "problem" with triggers and triggering (as rdbrewer explained it, in its clinical sense) is that it presumes that knowledge would be used to help people. Which seems sound enough in the medical and psychological fields, but (as your anecdote points out) isn't always the case in the real world. It's a shame, really.
The biggest "problem" with triggers and triggering (as rdbrewer explained it, in its clinical sense) is that it presumes that knowledge would be used to help people. Which seems sound enough in the medical and psychological fields, but (as your anecdote points out) isn't always the case in the real world. It's a shame, really.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 13, 2015 12:25 PM (wdXFj)
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BREAKING: NBC scraps plans for a re-imagining of The Roy Rogers Show because of Trigger
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at May 13, 2015 01:10 PM (cpy8s)
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62 Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 13, 2015 09:58 AM (xQX/f)
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BINGO. The "insane" will rarely bow to the "sane", and the sane, in a misguided effort to coexist or "understand", will intentionally or unintentionally adopt the traits of those with the disorders. In other words, "crazy makes you crazy". Best to just separate and cut your losses.
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BINGO. The "insane" will rarely bow to the "sane", and the sane, in a misguided effort to coexist or "understand", will intentionally or unintentionally adopt the traits of those with the disorders. In other words, "crazy makes you crazy". Best to just separate and cut your losses.
Posted by: Saltyron at May 13, 2015 01:46 PM (i6shs)
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"Speech police types who use triggering improperly to shut down speech are misguided. Opposing political views should be discussed."
Yes- politics is where we 'fight' so that we don't end up actually fighting in the streets where being triggered takes on a whole different meaning. But then, that's really what they want, isn't it? People yielding their self-agency to the state, and violence in the streets for the rest...
Yes- politics is where we 'fight' so that we don't end up actually fighting in the streets where being triggered takes on a whole different meaning. But then, that's really what they want, isn't it? People yielding their self-agency to the state, and violence in the streets for the rest...
Posted by: Mtwzzyzx at May 13, 2015 01:48 PM (PP2q9)
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146- Today, instead of confining mentally ill people to
mental health institutions, it seems that the mentally ill are in
control of academic and government institutions.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (KDbAT)
----I agree wholeheartedly. We are being ruled by the Insane.
mental health institutions, it seems that the mentally ill are in
control of academic and government institutions.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 13, 2015 10:25 AM (KDbAT)
----I agree wholeheartedly. We are being ruled by the Insane.
Posted by: Saltyron at May 13, 2015 01:52 PM (i6shs)
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168 - Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 13, 2015 10:32 AM (mf5HN)
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For some, life is safer in the pen. At least until "Farmer Brown" sends them to the Jimmy Dean factory.
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For some, life is safer in the pen. At least until "Farmer Brown" sends them to the Jimmy Dean factory.
Posted by: Saltyron at May 13, 2015 01:55 PM (i6shs)
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Every time a liberal speaks I get triggered into thinking and finding out their wrong.
Posted by: kzintius at May 13, 2015 03:17 PM (ZfKzG)
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TW: skepticism
I thought it had been determined that DID/MPD/whatever is not, in fact, real? Or that it was, in fact, no more than just people with frequent dissociative episodes inventing mental framing devices to explain the episodes to themselves, or something like that.
I thought it had been determined that DID/MPD/whatever is not, in fact, real? Or that it was, in fact, no more than just people with frequent dissociative episodes inventing mental framing devices to explain the episodes to themselves, or something like that.
Posted by: cjw at May 13, 2015 04:08 PM (UJ59J)
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Excellent information RD. Can you suggest any further reading sources? I occasionally work around an elderly lady who was diagnosed with a number of severe mental disorders. Your description matches some of her behavior; such as the sudden personality changes. Your advice provides helpful ideas, and I'd like to read further. I've been bewildered on more than one occasion when she morphs from a wonderful, loving sweet women into someone entirely the opposite. It's caused her a lifetime of ruptured relationships, and threatened ours on occasion.
Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at May 14, 2015 12:22 PM (5GXFZ)
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Ouch. PIMF
Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at May 14, 2015 12:23 PM (5GXFZ)
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