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Tories Whomp Labour to the Tune of 331 Seats (Out of 650), An Outright Majority in an Election That Polls Alleged They Would Lose Badly
The Labour Party: pic.twitter.com/fzhyStuIBx
— Matt (@Matthops82) May 8, 2015Maybe I'm just hopeful but... I dunno, maybe she's not insane, and maybe she's not all gung-ho for the primitive Patriarch domination (as in real patriarch domination) of these semibarbaric tribesmen. Via Noah Rothman, with more on this, this stupidly-grinning pogrom enthusiast exited with his customary grace.
Earlier, [Galloway] was reported to police by Bradford Council for allegedly breaking election laws. He is said to have retweeted his party's own exit poll before voting ended. Ms Shah criticised Mr Galloway's campaign, saying it had "demeaned democracy". The Labour candidate won with a majority of more than 11,000. Mr Galloway's Respect party won 8,557 votes and the Conservatives 6,160.
Ms Shah is a political newcomer who has overcome childhood poverty, a teenage forced marriage and the imprisonment of her mother for killing an abusive partner. She had urged voters to reject Mr Galloway, saying: "We do not need a one-man Messiah to tell us how to come and fix up Bradford.''
George Galloway gracious in defeat pic.twitter.com/I5neV8y4CT
— Easily Offended (@scaff1974) May 8, 2015The best result from the British elections pic.twitter.com/y3omRM1rUm
— Michael C Moynihan (@mcmoynihan) May 8, 2015All told, the Tories are not the only victors in town. As was predicted, the ascendant SNP has effectively turned Scotland into a one-party region. Remarkably, it now controls 56 of the 59 constituencies north of the border -- a nine-fold increase in its share of Parliament’s seats. In the short term, this development has mostly hurt the Labour party, which has hitherto relied on Scotland as an electoral bulwark. In the long term, though, it is likely to serve as a strong blow to the integrity of the Union.... [I]t is worth recording that Labour did poorly in England, too -- perhaps in part because the English worried that a vote for Labour would be a vote for an alliance with the Scottish nationalists. Below the border, the map is now an almost unbroken sea of blue [the Tories], with just a few well-populated red holdouts in the North and in South Wales. Indeed, the final tallies show that Labour could have won every single seat in Scotland and still have lost to the Tories by two dozen votes. Long term, that augurs badly. Elections have consequences, as the old saying goes, and for both the Labour and Liberal Democratic parties, last night's will augur nothing but ill fortune. The news was no better for the Liberal Democrat party, which has now been all but wiped off the map.... In fact, Sky News’s Faisal Islam observes this morning, both parties [Labour and Liberal Democrat] "would best see their current predicament as existential crises." ... The saddest story of the day, perhaps, is that of the U.K. Independence party, which managed to win 3.5 million votes and to come in third overall, but secured only one parliamentary seat. In response, UKIP’s leader, Nigel Farage, made good on his promise and resigned from his role as the party’s frontman. He will play no great role in the future. UKIP as a whole, however, almost certainly will, for while its candidates were thwarted by the United Kingdom’s first-past-the-post electoral system, the party as a whole demonstrated neatly that there is genuine frustration about the European Union and about the U.K.'s broken immigration system that can simply not be ignored.The first-past-the-post system is the one we use in America, where the guy who gets the most votes in a district wins the seat. That's different from some states where one just votes for a party, which then gets apportioned a number of seats for them to assign to their slate of candidates. Such a system does not reward third parties or split constituencies. Cooke notes things actually look even better for the Tories, and worse for Labour, than it seems; the borders of the constituencies are old. When they are adjusted again, they will favor the Conservatives more.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ace at May 08, 2015 01:29 PM (PA7DS)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at May 08, 2015 01:30 PM (k8xvx)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at May 08, 2015 01:30 PM (k8xvx)
The Tories, like their American counterparts, will interpret these election results to be more like Labour.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (i86TN)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (9LuAk)
What bothers me is that the UKIP did better in this election than before and... lost a seat? They got the third most votes overall and lost a seat in the parliament. That just confuses me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 08, 2015 01:33 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 08, 2015 01:33 PM (JVWwF)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:33 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (yIZJ3)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (81T1P)
What bothers me is that the UKIP did better in
this election than before and... lost a seat? They got the third most
votes overall and lost a seat in the parliament. That just confuses me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (39g3+)
Their votes were spread out in different areas, I am told, but that still leaves me confused as to how they lost a seat in the end.
Still think its a better election system than what we have here...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (9LuAk)
did you read my explanation at the end?
in a first past the post system, you can come in third place and pick up zero seats. Because you only get a seat if you come in FIRST place in a particular district.
In fact, theoretically, you could get the 2nd most votes overall and pick up zero seats, if in each and every specific district you came in 2nd.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (PA7DS)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (fWAjv)
I'm stuck on iPhone... Anyways the boy child king Nate Silver should eat his shorts he predicted 274 something like that which is significantly off from the reality of pure majority rule.
I think the final was 333.
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (8ZskC)
Is that related to districting?
Sort of like winning the popular vote in the US presidential election but losing more states?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: tu3031 at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (YFFpo)
"The country is screwed. The electorate is evil. The UK has become a
flat, ugly, smouldering disaster zone, and by the year 2020 we'll all be
dressed in rags and feasting on abandoned placentas for sustenance..."
http://is.gd/B80APE
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (ZKzrr)
He has made a few unpopular moves which he has marched in step with Obama on.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (GGCsk)
in a first past the post system, you can come in third place and
pick up zero seats. Because you only get a seat if you come in FIRST
place in a particular district.
In fact, theoretically, you could get the 2nd most votes overall and
pick up zero seats, if in each and every specific district you came in
2nd.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2015 01:34 PM (PA7DS)
Okay, amending my previous statement. I like the parliamentary system they've got going, but this first past the post thing sounds weird. Dunno how I like that bit, not that our election system is like to change anytime soon...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (9LuAk)
Another illustration of the bullshit of first-past-the-post voting systems.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (g7Ibl)
Posted by: Opie Smalls at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (YEs4Y)
Posted by: maddogg at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: LibertarianJim at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (luj3F)
That man's name is Ed Balls.
Now the UK has their own "deflated Balls" story....and theirs is more interesting than ours.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: derit at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (jT+gh)
http://is.gd/B80APE
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 08, 2015 01:35 PM (ZKzrr)
Holy. Shit.
Not just the grapes that are sour on that vine, hot damn...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (9LuAk)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 01:36 PM (noWW6)
Preach it, bro!
Posted by: Ralph Nader at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (XpMdw)
Maybe our problem on this side of the Atlantic is we don't speak with smarty-pants British accents so our politicians think we're stupid.
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (fMQoG)
Posted by: Lauren at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (yJV4S)
Thanks for the clarification, its not that much different in US. Democrats could get lots of votes but lose every single seat in congress. Just seems like in the parliamentary system it would be more representative of smaller parties.
Still think its a better election system than what we have here...
Its just different. Better in some ways, worse in others, and an overall push.
In any case: UKIP is growing in popularity and strength, not shrinking, despite the results. More people voting for a party = better for party.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (aA2hG)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (yIZJ3)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 01:39 PM (XUKZU)
Individual states can set their own election rules. We have oddball "jungle" primaries here in Commiefornia now.
Which are a stupid way to do things, worse than what we had previously, but forget it, Jake, it's Commiefornia.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 01:39 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Russell Brand at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Opie Smalls at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (YEs4Y)
Posted by: Lea at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (lIU4e)
Do we care about SNP's slight socialist bend hell to the no. On the national security front they will be rocking like true Scotsman which is essentially Vikings in skirts -still more manly then your average bear.
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (RJMhd)
And Martin Freeman made a commercial for Labour. Paul Grady, a uk presenter, promised he wd move to Venice if Labour lost. Is he packed? No!
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 01:40 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Brit mechanic at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (079lL)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (iQIUe)
I would like to see Cameron reach out to UKIP by appointing Farage to a
cabinet post. This act, backed by changes to current immigration rates,
would go a long way to building a real England and a nice farewell party
for Scotland. The Left really has no reason for being in Britain - it
hates its country, hates its native citizens, and won't protect its own
voters. Kind of like the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (oDCMR)
He cannot do that. In a Westminster parliamentary system, Cabinet ministers, get this, have to be elected as MP's. Or, in rare cases, members of the House of Lords.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (XpMdw)
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (/Ho8c)
Buggering is a proud, long-standing English tradition, with Labour taking the marauding cock administered by the Tories. Tallyho Rump Rangers!
Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 08, 2015 01:41 PM (P330y)
None of the meek wish to let a pollster who is a likely douchebag lib, know what they really think and how they will vote.
Axelrod and others hardest hit.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (U6f54)
I dont get the feeling that the UK media is so concerned that the polls were so one sided and wrong.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (iQIUe)
Something to remember is that while the Labor party is really, really, radically and openly hard left, the Conservative party is only so by comparison. They'd be, oh, moderate Democrats in America. A bit more fiscally conservative, but a bit more culturally leftist.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (39g3+)
Will the Tories use their victory or maintain the status quo?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (2TN4k)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ors65f5
Those with boots-on-the-ground experience on Britain, Eire, Outer Islands, etc., (all the more so, as in my case, those with rubber Wellies on-the-ground) will have hours of fun with this.
My next trip there will def. include Clacton, preferably by shallow-draft boat, at night, you know with the tides, fogs, and banks an' all).
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (lKD/i)
Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2015 01:42 PM (2Ojst)
Go ahead, horde . . . .
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 01:43 PM (t2m1Y)
And isn't Louisiana the only state that has run-off elections for congressional and senate seats?
Posted by: andycanuck at May 08, 2015 01:43 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: LibertarianJim at May 08, 2015 01:37 PM (luj3F)
He had some great speeches. Since he's now unfettered from the party, maybe he'll be freed up to really let the words fly. He really is a great speaker.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 01:43 PM (nqiq9)
-random british dude in a ballcap
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 01:43 PM (fWAjv)
Will the Tories use their victory or maintain the status quo?
Isshhh best not to appear overconfident in a mandate.
*hic*
Posted by: John Boehner at May 08, 2015 01:44 PM (8ZskC)
Damn it the crap polling! Where is CAC?
Posted by: River Guide
Up to his elbows in green baby poo.
The Guardian has a CAC-tacular map widget up for the election. The UK remapped into equal population hexes, a la D+D, with slider controls to play with the views. Does a good job at showing the swings and the Curse of London on the otherwise cerulean South.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 01:44 PM (kdS6q)
flat, ugly, smouldering disaster zone, and by the year 2020 we'll all be
dressed in rags and feasting on abandoned placentas for sustenance,
like the people in Threads."
Wow, sore loser much, Guardian guy?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2015 01:45 PM (2TN4k)
They seem deeply puzzled, but not upset. But then, British, don't show your upset, etc.
Remember: Most of England's politicians think the UKIP is fascism with better PR. Both Conservative and Labor portrayed them as hugely racist monsters, evil nazis with their jackboots hidden away. No way does anyone from UKIP get into the government at any level.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:45 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 01:46 PM (t2m1Y)
Too bad about Farage. He will certainly be missed.
Posted by: Lauren at May 08, 2015 01:38 PM (yJV4S)
He had already stated that he would resign the UKIP leadership if he failed to win his own riding. So he kept his promise. Gives his party the chance to consider its options in a leadership convention, and he might well run for the leadership again.
Integrity is so unfashionable now, it becomes a shock when anyone exhibits it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2015 01:46 PM (XpMdw)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2015 01:46 PM (81T1P)
Now let's see if Cameron actually comes through on his promises.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (2RfoO)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (81T1P)
Alberta voted in a Socialist government this week. Alberta. As in Texas North. The province whose entire economy is based on oil, just voted in a party that hates oil. And no, they didn't just vote in a Canadian version of a Democrat. They actually voted in a party that is unabashedly socialist and campaigned on raising corporate taxes on oil companies.
Strange days. Strange fucking days.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
Will the Tories use their victory or
FIFY
Posted by: Methos at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (oFCZn)
Their big plan is that they'll become independent and then run their groaning table of lavish welfare-state disbursements off of North Sea oil and gas revenue.
Except that their socialist utopia already costs more than the fossil fuel trade can possibly bring in to the public purse. (An absolutely ridiculous percentage of Scottish citizens are employed in one way or another by the state.)
Most of the North Sea oil and gas which would be owned by an independent Scotland has already been extracted. The Scots want to promptly join up in their own right with the EU, which is trying and succeeding to put the kibosh on fossil fuel development, because of carbonphobia, and also because a bunch of Eurocrats are quietly on the Russian payroll, and Russia doesn't want competition for exports. Oh, and oil and gas prices look to be stuck at a low ebb for a while yet.
Other than that, their plan is brilliant.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (39g3+)
*Yeah, they never actually keep this kind of promise.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2015 01:47 PM (2TN4k)
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You are correct. But needless to say, Cameron would do well if he found a way to court Farage as an ally. The left gets real dangerous when threatened with extinction. See Lois Lerner as an example.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (oDCMR)
I wonder if they'll disappoint as much as having republican majority in house & senate here?
Mitch has love like affair with Reid!
Posted by: Carol at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (sj3Ax)
No, they say, couldn't be, no sir, impossible.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (2RfoO)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (nqiq9)
As in, will the country fracture in two.
So maybe there is hope for us.
What I wonder is, what will happen to us here when the first nuke gets thrown, somewhere in the world, likely over in the lands of the muzzies. With the kind of media we have now, will the narrative be, "they deserved what they got," or will it be, "hooray for Islam."
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (oFCZn)
Fixed.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (GGCsk)
Somehow that makes me proud.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (jhqr1)
Invite him to Downing Street for a pint. I'm not sure Farage is more than a motivational speaker.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (2RfoO)
Posted by: derit at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (jT+gh)
Scatter your pets
Lube your nostrils
And salt your assholes
Where they stand.
But- quite frankly you don't care about Britain's economic policies what should care about is their foreign policy and that has taken a gigantic leap forward for all mankind.
And,that is rightward -in every sense of the word.
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (RJMhd)
Compare to the SNP. What would happen if say ... the Congressional Black Caucus split from the Democrat party. The majority black areas would still have black representation. The Democrats would lose about 20% of their seats.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 01:50 PM (DoEGi)
It'll be interesting to see how the Tories treat the 3rd-largest-vote-getting-but-only-one-MP-electing UKIP.
There needs to be a role for Farage!
Posted by: Mark in Portland at May 08, 2015 01:50 PM (DpRZj)
Good.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (k+itx)
He cannot do that. In a Westminster parliamentary system, Cabinet ministers, get this, have to be elected as MP's. Or, in rare cases, members of the House of Lords.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Typically are, but don't have to be:
Occasionally cabinet members are selected from outside the Houses of Parliament and if necessary granted a peerage. Harold Wilson appointed Frank Cousins and Patrick Gordon Walker to the 1964 cabinet despite their not being MPs at the time. On 3 October 2008 Peter Mandelson, at the time of appointment not a member of either House, became Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform and was immediately made a life peer. During the First World War, the South African politician Jan Smuts served in Lloyd George's War Cabinet without ever becoming a member of either house of the British parliament.
Pip pip, what ho!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (kdS6q)
___________
It wouldn't be hard for the UK to break apart. England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland could all go their separate ways easily.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (0LHZx)
http://bit.ly/1cf4vRn
Posted by: tmitsss at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (1nj96)
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Garrett at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (qHdWr)
There is someone up now (linked at Hot Air) questioning whether the UK
can survive, now that the conservatives are in the electoral position
they just won.
Which is ironic considering it was a Labour tactic to massively increase immigration as a way to dilute the Tories, and to characterize anyone who dared complain about it as a terrible racist.
But no, the long-term effects of this immigration won't end the UK.
Tory rule will. Gotcha!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2015 01:52 PM (2TN4k)
Much has been made of UKIP's loss, but Cameron promised to hold a referendum of England's own on whether the UK stays in the EU. If he Welches on his promise, it opens a rift in the Conservative party which won with UKIP support.
I have no use for British conservatives, who are as weak and weaselly as the American GOP and more liberal than our Democrats. I would like to move to Scotland, where they are very liberal, as well, but push for a libertarian government in the vein of how our founders, largely influenced by Scottish enlightenment thinkers, envisioned it. America can go the way of Detroit or Mecico for all I care. I'll take my money with me.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 01:52 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Pat at May 08, 2015 01:52 PM (nwnmt)
That is the whiniest pussy-ache of an "article" that I've ever read - that dude has some serious issues.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (nqiq9)
AP THREATENED ME! *delete*
Don't ask me questions about my claim that AP threatened me, let it go.
Posted by: Pam "I claim odd things" Geller at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: River Guide at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (RJMhd)
http://tinyurl.com/kn9md7g
Remember how the international community rose up to condemn Israeli for its treatment of poor Hamas? I wonder if they will rise up and condemn ISIS now.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (0NdlF)
Yes, but every election they gain more voters and momentum.
I do wonder how much Clarkson being fired actually did affect the election. Seriously.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (39g3+)
Invite him to Downing Street for a pint. I'm not sure Farage is more than a motivational speaker.
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I don't know about that. Obama is a motivational speaker but he has lead his party to smallest showing since the 1920s. Farage has grown his party substantially. The party itself is inherently conservative and is very unlikely to wander off into the Left's pastures. So it makes sense for the Tories to bring them into the fold. You really can never have too many friends in politics.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Gen. Custer at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (1JqUE)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO Tax Preparer for the Stars of MSNBC and The Clinton Foundation at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (/HC6x)
That would be fine, but the GOP would have to really lay into the problems besetting black neighborhoods and do an extensive amount of good. And that doesn't mean "money" necessarily, but restructuring *all* incentives so as to re-create a black middle class with functional families and systems of education. That's what the challenge is. As it is, Democrat policies have obliterated the black family, demolished its middle class, and enslaved its population with the welfare plantation.
Surely there have to be some neighborhoods that are fed up with that shit.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (2RfoO)
what should care about is their foreign policy and that has taken a gigantic leap forward for all mankind. And,that is rightward -in every sense of the word.
Posted by: River Guide
During the Cold War, even at the height of the CND and Greenham Commons movement, during Labor governments the UK was still a reliable ally.
Tally ho!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (kdS6q)
This jackwad was very hot and heavy on the faux cause of "Palestine".
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (8E9QA)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (t2m1Y)
Somehow that makes me proud.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2015 01:49 PM (jhqr1)
He's been in Katy Perry as well.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (fWAjv)
Don't ask me questions about my claim that AP threatened me, let it go.
Posted by: Pam "I claim odd things" Geller at May 08, 2015 01:53 PM (jhqr1)
AP baits assassination target. News at 11.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (nqiq9)
do well if he found a way to court Farage as an ally. The left gets real
dangerous when threatened with extinction. See Lois Lerner as an
example.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 01:48 PM (oDCMR)
Well, since the government of the day can apparently now appoint members to the House of Lords (thanks to labour for that), I suppose Cameron could appoint Farage to the Upper House, and then bring him into Cabinet. But why? He has a whole shitload of new Tory MP's who will want to be rewarded.
If Cameron wanted to co-opt Farage, I expect the best way would be for him to appoint him to head a commission, or as an ambassador. Maybe to the EU. (heh)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (XpMdw)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2015 01:55 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: mallfly at May 08, 2015 01:56 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 01:56 PM (k+itx)
Lily Allen a trot? Who knew?
I loved when she said they wanted her in GOT to play a sex scene with the brother, Alfie allen. He said no way, entirely made up, and disgusting.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 01:56 PM (iQIUe)
Making sure that the Labour Party will have no chance to get the scottish seats back from the SNP, will give the Tories an even bigger advantage than Democrats enjoy in the electoral college here in the States. Tory insiders like Michael Portillo have already stated publicly that the Union is no longer sacrosanct and up for debate.
Posted by: Harley Quinn at May 08, 2015 01:57 PM (yu5AL)
This election suggests to me that the referendum probably would have passed if worded slightly differently.
Don't ask me questions about my claim that AP threatened me, let it go.
Like someone noted in the previous post, my guess is it wasn't so much a threat as a strong implication, "if you won't talk to us, we'll have to talk to others, such as your family members, to get the story" which isn't exactly a threat as she said, but not far off.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:57 PM (39g3+)
You forget that they also have golf and scotch, but don't remind Obama. He'll move his presidential library there. Motherfucker thinks he's Idi Amin or something.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 01:57 PM (nCKKS)
And then he cackled maniacally while rubbing his hands together?
Galloway sounds like a 3rd-rate comic book villain.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (7ObY1)
And this a bad system. It tends to produce only two major parties, which makes it easy for the party establishments to form a cartel on issues where
they agree, depriving voters of a choice. For example, Democrats want increased immigration because most immigrants vote Democratic, while the GOP establishment wants increased immigration because their donors want more cheap foreign labor. So if you are one of the majority of Americans who opposes increases in legal immigration (or one of the plurality who want it reduced), you really have no one to vote for, except for obscure third parties with zero chance of winning.
But if the House had proportional representation, we would long ago have seen the emergence of a serious UKIP-like third party, which would have forced the GOP to move right on the issue, or replaced the GOP if they didn't.
After the national divorce, when the red states have succeeded and formed their new country, the new constitution should abandon first past the post/winner take all, and replace it with proportional representation.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (HA+/6)
Occasionally cabinet members are selected from outside the Houses of Parliament and if necessary granted a peerage.
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LDC, it is also technically correct that the Speaker of the House does not have to be a Member of Congress. Could we mount a Bring Back Newt campaign?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (t2m1Y)
If you like sailing, I have heard Scotland's northwest coast, and islands, is a tricky but highly rewarding cruising ground. Summers.
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (lKD/i)
Eh, I'm sure most of the morons would give her a go after a good steam cleaning.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (jhqr1)
The best I've seen to date is the "Flexcit" plan proposed by Richard North.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (2RfoO)
Or, you know, how the Democrats and the media (BIRM) sound everytime the federal budget grows by 10% and not 11%.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO Tax Preparer for the Stars of MSNBC and The Clinton Foundation at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (/HC6x)
its treatment of poor Hamas? I wonder if they will rise up and condemn
ISIS now.
Nah, keep their powder dry so they can criticize Israel for it's harsh treatment of ISIS once they share a border.
Posted by: Methos at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (7ObY1)
The Brits should be damn thankful that Milibrand won't be a factor anymore, that dude is commie to the core.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at May 08, 2015 01:59 PM (8E9QA)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 08, 2015 02:00 PM (VLTL9)
If UK is to have a chance at all they need to halt their radical left wing immigration policies, which they won't do.
Posted by: Dan at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (COpZ4)
The Scottish Socialists will be happy to take your money,
and they will just as happily continue to live on the government dole.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (DoEGi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (k+itx)
the new constitution should abandon first past the post/winner take all, and replace it with proportional representation.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll)
Because we look at the stability and success of post-war Italian governments and say to ourselves, "yes, that is the way forward"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (kdS6q)
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So does each country get to decide its immigration policies or is that the purview of the UK?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (oDCMR)
In her case it was much sadder though, because she has a genuinely beautiful, wonderful voice and she sang some amazing stuff. Now she's just trash. I fear Jackie Evancho will walk the same route of seeking popular acclaim and being tired of the stuff her parents directed her into as a child.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (FcR7P)
Nah, UK doesn't want to let Scotland go. He'll waste time debating how much control of Scotland's government to give the Scots in exchange for them staying in the UK, and he'll tell the EU separatists he can't honor his commitment until the issue Scotland is settled first, much like what we d with the immigration issue and entitlement reform. But it won't work!
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 02:02 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Garrett at May 08, 2015 02:02 PM (qHdWr)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 01:51 PM (kdS6q)
Yes, the usual mechanism for that is to have a backbencher in a safe seat resign so that the Cabinet appointee can run in his place. But Cameron has no need to build bridges to UKIP at this time. He has an outright majority, and he will wallow in it, as he should.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (XpMdw)
Posted by: Tom Brady, QB-Pats at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (8E9QA)
Now, you have been around here long enough to know we aren't that picky.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO Tax Preparer for the Stars of MSNBC and The Clinton Foundation at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (/HC6x)
And a couple anti-virals for good measure.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at May 08, 2015 01:58 PM (HA+/6)
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I would suggest that you look up countries that are run on proportional representation and the political culture this system produces. There is not much to like.
Posted by: Harley Quinn at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (yu5AL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (g1DWB)
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I suppose if the Tories were to win, it might bring on the revolution quicker. #brightside #election2015
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She needs to read a book. People like her are the first ones put up against the wall and shot.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 01:56 PM (k+itx)
Then maybe she'll get naked and straddle a wrecking ball, because she's quite easy on the eyes.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 08, 2015 02:04 PM (RD7QR)
The government can't help that. Only black people living in those areas can. If they won't change, no amount of money will fix it. IF they choose to change, and work at it, then government can assist, mostly by getting out of the way.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:04 PM (39g3+)
Milliband didn't cite the 35 - 40% of the electorate who didn't vote as being, in effect, votes for Labour, so the Tories "got nuthin'".
I'd have thought that Axelrod would have tossed that ploy into his consulting package, gratis.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at May 08, 2015 02:05 PM (VLTL9)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 02:03 PM (iQIUe)
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After the revolution here, I've been looking forward to the Muslims versus the gheys. (My money is on the suicide bombers, for what it's worth.) But it looks like we might have a chance to get a preview across the pond!
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:06 PM (t2m1Y)
But look at what 40 plus years of Democratic leadership has yielded!
Posted by: East St. Louis, Comption, Detriot.......... at May 08, 2015 02:06 PM (/HC6x)
Yes, he didn't think that through to its logical conclusion. But then again when Russell Brand is your political advisor logic is not your strong point or even a weak one.
Posted by: Decaf at May 08, 2015 02:06 PM (YQN3A)
In Tom Kratman's novel Countdown: The Liberators, the bad guys are making use of an AQ-owned frieghter named the George Galloway.
Spoiler- it gets sunk.
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (tv8Jb)
Posted by: Garrett at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (qHdWr)
NO NO NO
Weimar Germany had proportional representation. No one could put together a governing coalition, because every tick-tacky party had its goals and "principles."
Until finally some guy that was a great orator and both a Nationalist and a Socialist put together a party that won 40% of the seats.
A manufactured crisis and a little demonization of a minority, and soon he was voted TOTAL POWER by their Congress. "Enabling Legislation."
We all know how that turned out.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (DoEGi)
The Scottish Socialists will be happy to take your money,
and they will just as happily continue to live on the government dole.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (DoEGi)
I think a government that small, that new and that recently economically independent will have a greater stake in rooting out waste, fraud and abuse. If people feel they need the government's help, and the voters support it, I don't begrudge them. I predict you will se a greater push for small government when Scots no longer see themselves, resentfully I might add, as British subjects. I think it would be nice to live in a country that has its pride restored.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 02:08 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: David Axelrod at May 08, 2015 02:08 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2015 02:08 PM (g1DWB)
That might be one of the best unintentionally-sounds-like-the-Onion pieces I've read in a long time! Lefty temper tantrums are fun.
Nigel, your spirit and eloquence will be missed! Hope you go on to bigger and better things.
Galloway being beaten, and by a woman no less? Grinning like a fool over here.
Posted by: LizLem at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (xkSSa)
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Tactics versus strategery. Build a bigger party when you get the chance, because you can't build a bigger when under attack. It costs Cameron little at this moment to be magnanimous and in return he deepens his majority and leaves Labour a Pakistani party.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (lKD/i)
Europeans are simply wired to be more to the Left than the United States. Basically every center-right party is that way. Even UKIP supported continuing socialized medicine.
I still think it's a good thing though that Labour was beaten handily.
Posted by: McAdams at May 08, 2015 02:10 PM (k6TmY)
Lay back and think of Marx, comrade....
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 02:10 PM (iQIUe)
It'd be much simpler to just outlaw the Democrat party. Germany didn't allow the NSDAP to exist post-war, why should we allow their American counterparts?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 08, 2015 02:10 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at May 08, 2015 02:10 PM (evdj2)
It got a bit teste and then he got sacked.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:11 PM (7ObY1)
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Take a hard look at the Democratic Party - its like walking around a nursing home. They are running Head Capo Granny cuz she has all the money. They are on empty.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:11 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: derit at May 08, 2015 02:11 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 02:11 PM (iQIUe)
Yeah, if you don't assimiliate them into your culture and your culture into them... this is what you get. Why vote for the corrupt English guy when you can have a corrupt 'asian' guy?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (nqiq9)
restructuring *all* incentives so as to re-create a black middle class with functional families and systems of education. That's what the challenge is. As it is, Democrat policies have obliterated the black family, demolished its middle class, and enslaved its population with the welfare plantation.
Posted by: Feh at May 08, 2015 01:54 PM (2RfoO)
Another problem is that much of the "black middle class" today is dependent on government jobs, often due to affirmative action.
Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (zoehZ)
recently economically independent will have a greater stake in rooting
out waste, fraud and abuse. If people feel they need the government's
help, and the voters support it, I don't begrudge them. I predict you
will se a greater push for small government when Scots no longer see
themselves, resentfully I might add, as British subjects. I think it
would be nice to live in a country that has its pride restored.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 02:07 PM (nCKKS)
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Which hundreds of thousands of Scots now on the government payroll do you think the SNP would lay off?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (t2m1Y)
Extra Mugwort, please.
Posted by: Garrett at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (qHdWr)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:09 PM (GGCsk)
No, but it was a close shave.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:13 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 08, 2015 02:12 PM (zF6Iw)
He stubbled at the finish line.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 02:13 PM (nqiq9)
Restoring you heritage, culture and some autonomy is one thing. Changing your social mores and habits is another.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:13 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 08, 2015 02:13 PM (g7Ibl)
After, there's your opportunity TdP et al. The weather, for all you've heard, is entirely salubrious in the countryside. The food more so.
It will be a huge effort to get Muslim burials for all the dead, but these things, with God's help, man can carefully calibrate.
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 02:13 PM (lKD/i)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (so+oy)
post-war Italian governments and say to ourselves, "yes, that is the way
forward"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 08, 2015 02:01 PM (kdS6q)
Israel also has proportional representation, does it not? And their elections tend to be clusterfucks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (XpMdw)
So... who is he? A British pol? Some actor? Just a gif somebody found?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (TOk1P)
They'd just call themselves something patriotic and keep the incrementalism up.
Europeans are simply wired to be more to the Left than the United States.
As they used to be more wired to the right than the United States until around 1945. Basically the wars killed off nearly all the masculine men, patriots, people who dared, the independent and the ambitious, and left only the people who cringed and survived and live off others.
Two world wars gutted Europe and left only men without chests.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (S+el1)
No actual comment content. I just like that sentence. So much.
Be back in <4 hours.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:15 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 02:15 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Ed Balls at May 08, 2015 02:15 PM (qHdWr)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
Well thank god the women still have they're chests.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (S+el1)
Quite.
Black Democrats should consider the unique case of Tom Bradley, the black Democrat who was the former mayor of Los Angeles.
The only black mayor in L.A.'s history to date, and the only black mayor L.A. is _ever_ likely to have. Sui generis.
Because Hispanics. Democrats pushed aggressively to get more Hispanics into the country and onto the voting rolls in places like L.A.
Except that for black Democrats, there is now the belated realization that if Hispanics have a choice between two Democratic candidates for office, one of whom is black and one of whom is Hispanic, then Hispanics will support their own. Ethnic solidarity. There's a definite article in "La Raza", after all. And blacks are now numerically crowded out.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (noWW6)
That's one of the most disturbingly and shockingly effective flips the left ever pulled off. Scottland didn't legalize abortion until the 1990s. It used to be the most conservative place on earth.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (39g3+)
This is going to be about who has the best vision for the future, especially economically. And Hillary has nothing going for her on that.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (eOpVe)
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On @BBCNewsnight tonight to discuss what this political earthquake tells us about Britain - and its uncertain, anxious future
Schama is also a commie and obama butt licker.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 02:17 PM (+zma3)
He was holding hands and I'll
Never be the same
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:15 PM (7ObY1)
And you'll never have that recipe again??
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:17 PM (TOk1P)
RE: UKIP
Wait. Wait. A leader of a party actually took responsibility for results and stepped aside when the results were not favorable?
What madness is this?
KOFF ORCA KOFF KOFF ORCA KOFF
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 08, 2015 02:17 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: If i can't trust a baby-murder cheerleader with an MBA, who can I trust? at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (9Z8lH)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 08, 2015 01:43 PM (kivUY)
California and Washington both have a "Jungle Primary"
Posted by: The Jungle Hat at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
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I was thinking the same thing, CT, but also if you think back to when the first immigrants came to America, who were they? The risk takers, the people who wanted something better. Who stayed behind in Europe? The fearful, the people who wanted to be comfortable. I think we became genetically and culturally different from our European cousins, which is why we kick ass. (With a notable exception being a large minority descended from those who got captured and sold, but let's not go there.)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (t2m1Y)
They should have known; when it was between a white dude and a black dude, they'd always go for the black one.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 08, 2015 02:19 PM (g7Ibl)
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The beaners out gang the blacks as well.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (mGBKM)
The SNP are Socialists
The SNP are National Socialists.
Never a good combination.
Posted by: The VE70 Hat at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (7YlUk)
I think.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (k+itx)
Keep telling yourself that when she's sworn into office.
I was thinking the same thing, CT, but also if you think back to when the first immigrants came to America, who were they?
I think that had an effect too, but the wars slammed the coffin lid and welded it shut.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (39g3+)
That worked so well in the newly minted African States. Don't forget, the people are used to living on the dole. And a bunch of bureaucrats making a living keeping people on the dole. The jobless do not have jobs, and they are not going to get jobs unless they either have an innate drive, or are actually hungry.
This would be like trying to get Baltimore, DC, or Philadelphia to become libertarian. Aint gonna happen.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (DoEGi)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The Jungle Hat at May 08, 2015 02:18 PM (7YlUk)
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Two different things. The JP has every candidate (multiple per party possible) on the primary ballot and then gets the number of candidates down to two, one of whom is elected on Election Day. Louisiana has one candidate per party on the ballot on Election Day, and then a runoff afterwards if no one gets 50%.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:21 PM (t2m1Y)
The Scots giving the English the finger, leading to a commensurate digital response?
A Labour government dependent on the SNP to hold power meant increasingly vast sums of English tax dollars showered on the Jocks, and that was a pill too bitter for the English voter to swallow. Cameron's making lots of pretty-talk about governing the entire country but you can bet there's going to be enormous pressure in his party for a wholesale revision to the Barnett Formula.
The defenestration of the Liberal Democrats, whose grab for power in the last Coalition government pushed not-ready-for-prime-time clowns like Ed Davey into positions of authority?
They all - and I mean ALL - got booted. The LibDems lost most of their electoral deposits.
The reduction of Labour to a northern-England regional party increasingly dependent on Muslims and entertainment idiots?
Their leadership got whacked. It's like the US Democrats after 2014, their whole bench just got thrown out of the game, and the next line are full of grifters like Chuka Umana.
Cameron's now got room to move on a few things that would warm Tory hearts, such as sane energy and immigration policies and buying Osborne a larger knife, even if he continues to drag his feet on an EU referendum. We'll see if he truly takes the hint.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at May 08, 2015 02:21 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:21 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 02:22 PM (/Ho8c)
Instead of a Dem and GOP primary, everyone gets dumped in a blender and the top two go to
Yes, that can have the exact result you're imagining. Except the literally being dumped in a blender type. Which I'm sure would be a ratings bonanza but still.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:22 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:22 PM (oDCMR)
I hope for the UK sake, the "Conservatives" won't act like our GOPe which have taken their win and legitimized Obama's leftist policies.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 02:23 PM (ODxAs)
I'll take a haggis burrito please.
I became kind of a fan of the British governing system when I was stationed there. Wouldn't it be nice if we converted the US into a constitutional monarchy with Obama as our king?
It'd be purely ceremonial and he'd have no real power (except as chair of the Pentavarate). King Barack could have all the pomp and adulation he craves without any real input into governance.
Though PM Boehner wouldn't be much to get excited over.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2015 02:23 PM (hqZPQ)
Yeah. The British Navy in the 1800's was no slouch.
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 02:23 PM (+zma3)
Except that for black Democrats, there is now the belated realization
that if Hispanics have a choice between two Democratic candidates for
office, one of whom is black and one of whom is Hispanic, then Hispanics
will support their own. Ethnic solidarity. There's a definite article
in "La Raza", after all. And blacks are now numerically crowded out.
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The beaners out gang the blacks as well.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (oDCMR)
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Somehow Gene Green, who is a white Democrat, has managed to continue to get elected in a majority-minority district (TX-29) by exploiting this phenomenon.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:23 PM (t2m1Y)
http://tinyurl.com/mnsnmow
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:24 PM (k+itx)
the left ever pulled off. Scottland didn't legalize abortion until the
1990s. It used to be the most conservative place on earth.<<
That's just one indicative of the liberalization. "Social Protection" and Health are about 50% of their budget. The SP part of that has been increasing greatly year over year. They've become dependent on it and overall their percentage per capita is much higher than the UK proper.
It's going to be like getting people off crack. The liberals know it too. Just like here in the US
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 02:25 PM (GGCsk)
The SNP are Socialists
The SNP are National Socialists.
Never a good combination.
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Stompy boots and Kilts just look silly.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:25 PM (oDCMR)
Never heard of her before. But, yeah, those are some yabbos.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:25 PM (LA7Cm)
But the new program must be English Common Law. And the Scottish Enlightenment. Take everyone with a criminal record in the B6 Zones (Bathic Blue Bastions of Bastardy Beyond B'more) and run 24/7. Do not turn 'em loose until all their biometrics affirm they solemnly believe "We hold these Truths to be self-evident."
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 02:25 PM (lKD/i)
Posted by: Fritz at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (UzPAd)
The army was no picnic to face either, just ask Napoleon and all his marshalls.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (PtTYB)
Keep telling yourself that. It helps to click your heels together at the same time. A house has landed on the witch.
She's so mortally wounded I can see a third party candidate entering the race and siphoning off 5% from her.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (xQX/f)
Which raises the question: Is it strictly voting for their own, or just refusing to vote for AA Dems?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (fWAjv)
That man's name is Ed Balls.
Nice use of macher for Labour.
Now to search comments for balls jokes.
Posted by: TheGoodShipJihadiPop at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (7ObY1)
I'm just not certain about that anymore. As far as I can tell it's going to be tribal voting patterns from here on out.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (hqZPQ)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:21 PM (t2m1Y)
Not quite. In Louisiana, everyone runs, but there is no runoff if someone gets an outright majority.
In Calif. (and I presume Wash.), the top two continue on regardless if someone gets a majority or not.
Regardless, anyone can run.
On a side note, in Nevada, you can get a contest between two people of the same party in November if there was more than one person running in a party's primary, and there was no one of a different party running.
Posted by: The Hat-Off at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (7YlUk)
He has a $#!++y truck.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (DT3rQ)
Look her up.
Sorry are you sure of that name? The closest thing to a UK politician I can find by that name is a midwife in England.
Posted by: An Observation at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (5UxEh)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (7ObY1)
Dirty school girl look, yummy.
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 02:28 PM (S+el1)
https://youtu.be/gQAUuTLwm5Q
Her later stuff is crap boilerplate pop slut music.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:28 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:26 PM (DT3rQ)
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Thank you for not saying "begs the question." (pet peeve) He manages to convince the two ethicities that he's a better alternative than the guy the other side would pout up.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:28 PM (t2m1Y)
It happened in San Diego recently too, if I recall, where it came down to...two Republicans.
No word of porcine aviators that day, but who knows?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:28 PM (DT3rQ)
"Charlotte Church certainly does. "
Never heard of her before. But, yeah, those are some yabbos.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:25 PM (LA7Cm)
Just googled her... yes, nice bongos, but the "news" quotes says she's a famous lefty, and is calling these elections to have caused her to lose faith in humanity.
Just up and shake 'em, you dumb broad.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:28 PM (TOk1P)
The good news is that since the Conservatives have a majority, they will be able to control the redistricting, which in turn should benefit them slightly in the next election.
Posted by: Joshua at May 08, 2015 02:29 PM (oCZ4e)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:29 PM (7ObY1)
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Have you ever seen what happens to Scots and Irish when they get too much sun. Its and ugly picture.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:29 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2015 02:30 PM (hqZPQ)
You too, eh?
He manages to convince the two ethicities that he's a better alternative than the guy the other side would pout up.
So it is disliking the others, from the sounds. That has interesting implications I doubt anyone's really thought through yet.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:30 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: DaveA at May 08, 2015 02:30 PM (DL2i+)
Don't go nuts. We bagged all the good ones already.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:27 PM (7ObY1)
We're all Ball'd out...
Posted by: The Political Balls at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 08, 2015 02:16 PM (eOpVe)
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Rove was just on FNC saying repubs should stop trying to repeal Ocare. Let's face it. Rove an his admirers (yeah, I'm looking at you, Jeb) are as much (or more of) the enemy as the left.
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Joshua at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (oCZ4e)
Wait, so they have Tilted Kilt there?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (DT3rQ)
Reverse the voting process. Have the general election first, then the primaries. The general election would just be for parties and would be a proportional system. Party X gets 25% of the vote, they get 25% of seats in Congress. Party Y gets 3% of the vote, they get 3% of seats in Congress, etc.
Each party is allocated seats based on that first election.
Then a few months later, there is a vote in each congressional district for the party's nominee. This way you get to vote for the party you want and you don't have to worry about voting for a RINO in the primary for fear a super duper conservative might lose i the general.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:32 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: Joshua at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (oCZ4e)
Who cares, they're all limey brits.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:32 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (7ObY1)
Which raises the question: Is it strictly voting for their own, or just refusing to vote for AA Dems?
Does the average black love the average hispanic, and vice versa?
Or do they realize that any X politician is out to make sure his friends and fellow X'ers get the majority of the money?
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (DoEGi)
Posted by: The Political Balls at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (7YlUk)
Shooting blanks as they say
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (fWAjv)
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Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (XUKZU)
Just think Russell now you can get on to making Hop 2 like you always dreamed of.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue we have no party except in my pants at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (cI0Sy)
So you're right, I always assumed she was Aussie because she was so popular there and did some amazing shows in Oz.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:33 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 08, 2015 02:34 PM (lmdHn)
Rove is a true Republican: not conservative, interested only in importing slaves and keeping his cronies near the spigot of taxpayer funds.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 08, 2015 02:34 PM (oX9pn)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:34 PM (0LHZx)
Those are fighting words in Australia. Seriously, you could get your ass kicked.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (39g3+)
Hispanics, at least Mexicans, are not big fans of black people. It's very racist down in Mexico.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (LA7Cm)
Customs x-ray of the 8-year-old stuffed into the luggage.
It's creepy. It's cool. It's creepy-cool.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (hqZPQ)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (PtTYB)
Posted by: Null at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (xjpRj)
Galloway is one of the worst people on earth, so its good to see him lose. But he should be in prison.
What bothers me is that the UKIP did better in this election than
before and... lost a seat? They got the third most votes overall and
lost a seat in the parliament. That just confuses me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (39g3+)"
UKIP got about a little bit less than 13% of the vote nation wide but it was dispersed all over the country. It looks like they have picked up another seat so they are back to 2 seats in Parliament.
The difference between having support concentrated in some districts versus spread thinly across the country is that the Liberal Democrats have 8 seats in Parliament with half the total number of votes that UKIP got and the Scottish National Party which won 56 of the 59 votes in Scotland only got about one third as many votes as UKIP.
The conservatives won big with about 100 more seats than Labour. Part of that was loosing all but one seat in Scotland but even if they had won every seat in Scotland, they still would have lost.
I think the Scottish National Party has had the same effect on the Labour Party that would be like the effect on the Democrats if a Black People's Party won most of the black vote in the United States.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 08, 2015 02:30 PM (DT3rQ)
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Eh, not so much. It's Houston, not LA.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (t2m1Y)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM (39g3+)
Glad to see it's not just me. So, when that paper said "Return to Sanity", they meant: Back to the Right?
Man, everything about British politics confuses the shit out of me.
....and their lack of Aircraft Carriers.
Mostly, the lack of Carriers. Fucking pussies.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (DCpyI)
So with a secret ballot we get a bunch of democrats voting for their favorite republican in my district?
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (DoEGi)
Is that a veiled cry for help?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (bLnSU)
seal the border
put some non-lunatic judges on the bench.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (ZtH3P)
Well, they've got two in the works. If they don't get cut.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:38 PM (LA7Cm)
So with a secret ballot we get a bunch of democrats voting for their favorite republican in my district?
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (DoEGi)
________________
Yeah that could happen. But it happens now too. Look at the MS senate primary last year as Exhibit A.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:38 PM (0LHZx)
Forced viewing of violent visuals, while injecting nausea inducing drugs. He involuntarily associated the two (and unintentionally, the background music too), so whenever he tried to be violent, he got sick. Thus he was well behaved, but not by free will. It worked, but there was no moral redemption (a distinction the movie ignored by cutting out the last chapter of the book).
They reversed the process after the whole debacle where the old man initially wanted to exploit him for a political scandal, but instead tortured him with music (the audio track from violence video) upon realizing Alex had previously raped his wife.
Interesting trivia- Darth Vader is the old man's assistant.
Posted by: wooga at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (lU3p4)
fix the speech codes.
stop sending people to jail for having bad opinions (especially when those are the correct opinions about muzz)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (ZtH3P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (k+itx)
before and... lost a seat? They got the third most votes overall and
lost a seat in the parliament. That just confuses me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 01:32 PM
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Ross Perot got 20% of the vote and received a grand total of zero electoral college votes.
Same principle.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:31 PM (0LHZx)
Moo Moo is laying some wisdom on us all at a 100% discount from his usual six-figure hourly consulting fee.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (39g3+)
I'm pretty sure they don't have the internet in Australia, so I'm not worried.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:39 PM (TOk1P)
When did actual conservatives last have power in the US?
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:40 PM (noWW6)
I'm pretty sure they don't have the internet in Australia, so I'm not worried.
THEN WHO IS AUSSIE?
(actually, where IS aussie these days? Haven't seen her around here in some time)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:40 PM (7ObY1)
The F-35 will happen but if the UK budget gets hacked anymore they may not be able to afford to but them.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (LA7Cm)
No one in the whole thing that I've seen has mentioned the fact that the NFL has gone full-sumo. In the old days, no one in the NFL weighed 300 pounds. They had to live in the off-season. The physics of the game has changed, particularly given the athleticism of some of the big men. Tactics had to change accordingly, since QBs are like pitchers in MLB: the limiting factor.
Calvin Trillin, anent barbecue competitions, lamented the "California-ization" (really, the Japan-ization) of everything in America. Suddenly, you can buy specialist broomball shoes, for example. When a physical game (and the NFL used to be 3 yards and a cloud of dust) sucks up to the fags in TV, and becomes an effete spectacle for fugu-munchers, the end is near.
And no one outside the 2A types knows where the retiring BATF tyrant went.
Any guesses where Jones offices now?
Is that not too perfect?
50 Bonus Points? How many NFL franchises actually bought their stadiums?
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (lKD/i)
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (aBx/X)
1994. And they got a LOT done, including balancing the budget. Then they caved and turned into pigs at the trough again in 1996.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (/2KMt)
Interesting trivia- Darth Vader is the old man's assistant.
Muscle-boy in the wrestling singlet? Interesting.
Lovely, lovely Ludi's 9th has been my favorite piece of non-rock music ever since I saw that movie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (KDbAT)
Which seat?
Posted by: The Political Balls at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (7YlUk)
Is that a veiled cry for help?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 08, 2015 02:37 PM (bLnSU)
Have you ever heard him speak? Let him cry for help, it will just make people want to kick him in the shins.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:38 PM (LA7Cm)
Huh... didn't know that. So, Long Hull Essex class?
They can afford those and still have incredibly long wait times for simple medical procedures.
I keed.... I keed.....
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (DCpyI)
That's probably a safe play. Probably.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (LA7Cm)
I think its time for a USIP
Just like the Tea Party, it would be immediately coopted by SoCons fleeing their tarnished brand name (just like they fled the GOP to avoid the "Bush stink").
Better solution is to take over the Libertarians, and kick out all the weirdos.
Posted by: wooga at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (lU3p4)
Posted by: Harry Reid at May 08, 2015 02:43 PM (qHdWr)
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lol.
true.
but there were good times when Gingrich! and The Hammer had the reins.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:43 PM (ZtH3P)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:35 PM (39g3+)
No shit. They call Brits "pommies" down there (poor old mother England).
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 02:43 PM (nqiq9)
Gave us Clinton who took credit for basically the 12 years leading up to him.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:44 PM (ZtH3P)
Queen Elizabeth class. Rather interesting. Split bridges for air and sea ops.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 02:44 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Harry Reid at May 08, 2015 02:43 PM (qHdWr)
nicely done
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:44 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:40 PM (noWW6)
About sixty days until Jim Jeffords defected. Supposedly only hours before McCain was going to announce his defection to the Democrats.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:44 PM (DoEGi)
What if all this Security Upgrades at Military Bases were actually an Alert ?
The type of alert by Some Rogue General Plotting to over throw the regime..
Because he has organized a junta to over throw a weak President who has the goal of open borders, wrecking the economy and dismantling the Military to bring in a Blue Helmet Marshall Law..
Posted by: James Matoon at May 08, 2015 02:45 PM (/WmRg)
Is it a bitchen freeze?
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 02:45 PM (+zma3)
Too late, he's got his own show in the works. May and Hammond almost certainly will join him, as well as the guys who are "the Stig."
This gives them all a golden opportunity to change things up a little and shift away from pretending they're still 30.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:45 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 08, 2015 02:45 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 02:46 PM (7ObY1)
the budget. Then they caved and turned into pigs at the trough again in
1996.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:41 PM (39g3+)
But if you ask, it was Billy Jeff that balanced the budget. Pfft.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 08, 2015 02:46 PM (/2KMt)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 02:46 PM (+zma3)
Yeah, that's what keeps me from being a full supporter of the Libertarians. They have some top-shelf cranks in that party.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2015 02:46 PM (PtTYB)
Posted by: The Political Balls at May 08, 2015 02:47 PM (7YlUk)
Well I have to give him a little credit. He did, after 3 budget busting crapfests finally give in and sign it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2015 02:47 PM (39g3+)
Seven days in May
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 08, 2015 02:47 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Ahh, the good ol' days when Congress actually passed budgets...
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 02:48 PM (/Ho8c)
Yeah, I was more thinking of a party that would have straight forward talk throwing political correctness into the fires of hell.
The whole point of headlines such as at the AP is to get us to modify our language and let people think they are alone.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 02:48 PM (ODxAs)
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yeah, just like Obama...fought tooth and nail against sane, normal budgets (well, in obama's case just against a slightly less insane budget) and then took credit for the cuts. and the GOP decided that that was cool, good for the donk to finally take credit for something.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:48 PM (ZtH3P)
One of the best Movies Ever by the Director ...
The
2nd To Live and Die In LA
Posted by: James Matoon at May 08, 2015 02:49 PM (/WmRg)
Posted by: It was the Joooosss! at May 08, 2015 02:51 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 08, 2015 02:51 PM (R8hU8)
But does Shemp carry his doggeh around in his purse?
I guess neither of you has seen the movie, Clerks.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snowball
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 02:51 PM (2X7pN)
Just as the extremely improbable and rapid rise of Barack Obama from obscurity to the Presidency was made possible only by the blundering of George W. Bush, the comparable rise of Clinton was made possible by the blundering of Poppy Bush.
Blaming third-party candidates is weak sauce. Reagan had a third-party candidate in the race, John Anderson, when Reagan tossed Jimmy Carter out on his ear. The difference was that Reagan was strong and adept.
If Poppy Bush hadn't been catastrophically weak and inept, Perot would never have gotten traction at all in 1992.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:52 PM (noWW6)
UKIP got about a little bit less than 13% of the vote nation wide but
it was dispersed all over the country. It looks like they have picked
up another seat so they are back to 2 seats in Parliament.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 08, 2015 02:36 PM (KDbAT)
Which seat?
Posted by: The Political Balls at May 08, 2015 02:42 PM (7YlUk)"
I have no idea. I am watching Sky News and a little bit before noon CDT they started putting up UKIP 2, although they just put up another display showing UKIP 1 so I don't really know what is going on. In any event, Nigel Farrage did not win his seat so he has resigned as head of the party.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 08, 2015 02:52 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Gen. Custer at May 08, 2015 02:52 PM (1JqUE)
***
something happened in 1992. GHWB kindly gently took it up the ass
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:53 PM (ZtH3P)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 02:54 PM (XUKZU)
That worked so well in the newly minted African States. Don't forget, the people are used to living on the dole.
This would be like trying to get Baltimore, DC, or Philadelphia to become libertarian.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:20 PM (
I love this thread! The Scots are nazis for wanting their own government, but they'll fuck it up cuz they're what Robert Byrd called white enwords.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 02:54 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:52 PM (noWW6)
I remember in 1991 my BIL (the Schmuck) saying the democrats should run Jesse against GHWB since it was obvious no one stood a chance against the victor in Desert Storm.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:55 PM (DoEGi)
If Poppy Bush hadn't been catastrophically weak and inept,
Call Saddam's bluff, assemble a 27 nation coalition including Arabs and French, kick the everloving shit out of Iraq in weeks. That kind of weak and inept?
He was checked out in the '92 election, maybe that campaign was inept, but he wasn't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (1JqUE)
They sold off part of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. A more obscure event was the selling off of the 40ft tall berms of bauxite that had been sitting at the SeaBee base in Gulfport, MS since WWII.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (k+itx)
Great post. The Bushes are a disaster for our country but not the way the Liberals portray it. GHWB had everything going for him and he fucked it away like the numbnuts he is. I never understood the popularity of GWB - he was a clusterfuck of a president and a closet liberal ("compassionate conservative").
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (XUKZU)
No, they'll just continue the status quo that worked for them for years, despite not having money to pay for it.
Why Should They Change???
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 02:57 PM (DoEGi)
Posted by: Null at May 08, 2015 02:57 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 08, 2015 02:53 PM (ZtH3P)
I learned pretty much all I needed to know about politics in '92. The lead-up to the Gulf War included Dems in Congress saying they would support the war funding if Bush agreed to raise taxes. He did. When the ol' election cycle rolled around, there was Dick (Head) Gephart going around campaigning against Bush for breaking his promise to not raise taxes. And Bush, of course, took it like the wimp he was.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 02:57 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at May 08, 2015 02:57 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (k+itx)
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2015 02:52 PM (noWW6)
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Six words were the downfall of Old Man Bush: "Read my lips. No new taxes".
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (S+el1)
And then fail to deliver the killing blow, leave the Kurds in the lurch, and Hussein in power, because too many burned-out trucks on the Highway of Death or whatever.
That kind of weak and inept.
Posted by: don't go wobbly at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (9Z8lH)
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The fuck?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 02:59 PM (0LHZx)
FIFY
The recession ended in the Summer of 1992. The media made it sound like the Great Depression 2.0.
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (DoEGi)
One book to bind it all?
Read "Life of Johnson" by James Boswell.
Read "Life of Johnson" by James Boswell.
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into a 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (lKD/i)
That reminds me, Fcuk Colon Powell, in particular.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (/HX7u)
_________
I never understood this.
So you were so mad at Bush for raising taxes, you decided to teach him a lesson by voting for Clinton, who raised taxes even more.
Or OK, you didn't vote at all, which was the equivalent of voting for Clinton.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (0LHZx)
I think the term bandied about last night was Scottzis.
Posted by: LizLem at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (yRwC8)
No RD, I had it right the first time.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 08, 2015 03:01 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: rd
But now, everything is all roses. In case you guys didn't know.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 03:02 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: rd
But now, everything is all roses. In case you guys didn't know.
-
Unemployment fell today. Happy days are here again!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 03:03 PM (XUKZU)
Kinda terrifying, even in ice form. New villain for Frozen 2, Elsa has a nightmare and accidentally creates a monster?
Posted by: LizLem at May 08, 2015 03:03 PM (yRwC8)
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/12/early-onset-of-bds.html
"The Ever Vigilante Media"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (k+itx)
Whey my Christian Charity at, yo?
Gonna take a bicycle ride before I switch to wine this evening.
Giro d'Italia commences in the morrow, y'all. Talk about your spectacles!
Fausto Coppi much?
All the best, Morons!
Num 6,24-26
Posted by: Steve White, eater of the cheese popcorn, into a 6-pack of Great Northern Porter at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (lKD/i)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (ODxAs)
I missed where Russel Brand thought he could have an effect on the election.
Leftist, thy core driver is narcissism.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (0LHZx)
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You are one ASSUMING motherfucker, aren't you?
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (DoEGi)
I missed where Russel Brand thought he could have an effect on the election.
Leftist, thy core driver is narcissism.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (0x/TW)
Someone needs to break it to poor ickle Russell that he DID have an effect on the election: people heard what he was saying, recognized he was a self-absorbed prat, and did the opposite of what he wanted.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 08, 2015 03:05 PM (4df7R)
Is there any way to trace the IP of a sender who sends you an email via "gmail" (i.e. Google Mail)?
As far as I can tell, the answer is "No," but maybe I'm missing something.
Normally, when you get an email directly from a normal domain, you can look at "complete headers" and see the "originating IP" of the email. But when one gets an email from gmail, all one ever sees is the IP of the Google server, not the person who sent it, nor of their local Internet Service Provider.
Hmmmmm.....
Posted by: zombie at May 08, 2015 03:05 PM (jBuUi)
Because another quarter million quit looking?
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (DoEGi)
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Not this month. The labor participation rate increased AND unemployment fell.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:06 PM (0LHZx)
Charlotte Church is a dumbass and I hated her singing. She's alwsys offensive, too;
http://goo.gl/3I4zpe
Skip to controversies. And click the footnote to her comments on 9/11.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:06 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 02:58 PM (/HX7u)
Yeah, but you never hear about GHWB's agreement with the Democratic Congress to decrease spending in return for raising taxes. Of course, the reneged on their promise, and turned that phrase against him.
He fcuked up! He trusted them!
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 03:06 PM (2X7pN)
I remember people calling in to Rush and saying things like "Man, it can't get no worse" and shit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 08, 2015 03:07 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: red speck at May 08, 2015 03:07 PM (9/Ug/)
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (/HX7u)
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So angry, so often. Chill man. It's summer time. Relax.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 03:07 PM (+zma3)
leave the Kurds in the lurch, and Hussein in power, because too many
burned-out trucks on the Highway of Death or whatever.
That reminds me, Fcuk Colon Powell, in particular.
Posted by: Citizen X at May 08, 2015 03:00 PM (7ObY1)
Yup. At the time I was stationed stateside, we watched the initial invasion on tv, while our commanders were telling us it was only a matter of time, during what they assumed would be a long battle for Baghdad, that we would be going in. Of course that never happened.
At the time we were more or less grateful for not having to go, glad our comrades suffered as few casualties as they did. In time of course, reality set in, including watching a younger group of soldiers and marines in 2003 having to go in and do the job we didn't do 12 years earlier.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 03:08 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 03:09 PM (/HX7u)
Brand and Church are multi millionaires whining about how the gov does nothing for the poor while their charity donations are zero.
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:09 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Joe Cocker at May 08, 2015 03:09 PM (fUjxW)
Wouldn't pee on her if she was on fire now.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 03:10 PM (/Ho8c)
Um, no. New record for those not in the labor force, 93,194,000!
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 03:10 PM (2X7pN)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
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Fuck off, Mooboy.
Posted by: Soona at May 08, 2015 03:10 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 08, 2015 03:04 PM (ODxAs)
Ask the police in UT how PR went for them when they were raiding polygamist compounds and snatching away the kids. Answer: not well. Even if people think your lifestyle is creepy and weird, forcibly taking away your kids is always bad optics.
If there is actual footage of the off-grid homeschooled kids being taken away, that will be a goldmine for a reporter. Needs to get into their hands ASAP.
Posted by: LizLem at May 08, 2015 03:10 PM (yRwC8)
Because another quarter million quit looking?
Down is down
--Lib
Or they starved to death
A two-fer!
-Lib
Posted by: Smart, Hip Lib at May 08, 2015 03:11 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:11 PM (iQIUe)
8.549 M unemployed
Labor Force: 157.072M
UI rate: 5.44%
March:
8.575 M unemployed
Labor Force: 156.906M
UI rate: 5.46%
So the UI rate went down but just barely. The reason it went down from 5.5% to 5.4% is rounding. But essentially it remained unchanged.
Although participation rate did increase and the number of people unemployed did decrease.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:11 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 03:10 PM (2X7pN)
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Uhm no.
See my post above.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:12 PM (0LHZx)
Ross Perot was a major factor both in '92 and '96. Plus it was obvious that the Media just loooooooooved Bill Clinton.
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Ross Perot ran both times as a favor to Clinton. Clinton knew he could not win a majority. Perot was rewarded with government contracts.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 08, 2015 03:13 PM (yIZJ3)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 03:14 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2015 03:14 PM (GGCsk)
JK Rowlings is a billionaire. How many jobs has she created? crickets
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:15 PM (iQIUe)
So the takeaway isn't that Bush fucked up and lost because of a very stupid decision?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 08, 2015 03:16 PM (oX9pn)
Posted by: hadoop at May 08, 2015 03:16 PM (2X7pN)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:15 PM (iQIUe)
Probably more than a few. There are publishing companies and bookstores still in business due in part to the popularity of her product.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 08, 2015 03:16 PM (fwARV)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 03:16 PM (S+el1)
JK Rowlings is a billionaire. How many jobs has she created? crickets
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Actually quite a few. Same deal with the Beatles.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 03:16 PM (oDCMR)
Here's what I recall about the recession in the early 90's. The middle class neighborhood I lived in was devastated. LOTS of home sales/repos. People who had never had to worry about being laid off before were laid off.
IF they found work in their field, it was significantly less than before.
Between that and breaking his tax pledge, people were not happy with Bush.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 08, 2015 03:18 PM (1JqUE)
Posted by: not willow, but hoping to willow this thread at May 08, 2015 03:18 PM (JtwS4)
She has made a billion bucks from her books. Has she invested it into creating new jobs?
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:19 PM (iQIUe)
Uhm no.
See my post above.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:12 PM (0LHZx)
Where on earth are you getting that labor participation went up? It didn't. It sank again. It's at a 27 year low. And that's until they revise the numbers AGAIN next month, when I guarantee it will be worse.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 08, 2015 03:19 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2015 03:21 PM (dP3gR)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:15 PM (iQIUe)
Probably more than a few. There are publishing companies and bookstores still in business due in part to the popularity of her product.
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And the movies, and the people who make my Harry Potter jammies.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 03:21 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Heralder at May 08, 2015 03:22 PM (ECROs)
Uhm no.
See my post above.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:12 PM (0LHZx)
Where on earth are you getting that labor participation went up? It didn't. It sank again. It's at a 27 year low. And that's until they revise the numbers AGAIN next month, when I guarantee it will be worse.
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These revisions are so unexpected as well. This may be why we are serially treated to #blackliesmatter and Campus Rape Culture stories non-stop.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 03:23 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: The Tories at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (wAQA5)
Obama advisers ran both sides of the election. Axelrod ran Labour and
"Creepy" Jim Messina ran the Tories.
Posted by: Marcus T
OMG. That does.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: wrg500 at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (S+el1)
Uhm no.
See my post above.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 08, 2015 03:12 PM (0LHZx)
Where on earth are you getting that labor participation went up? It didn't. It sank again. It's at a 27 year low. And that's until they revise the numbers AGAIN next month, when I guarantee it will be worse.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 08, 2015 03:19 PM (4df7R)
It moo moo. He's either lying or pulling shit out of his ass that he has no clue on.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (z/Ubi)
be why we are serially treated to #blackliesmatter and Campus Rape
Culture stories non-stop.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 08, 2015 03:23 PM (oDCMR)
Right? The only time a negative revision to unemployment/economic numbers would REALLY be "unexpected" would be if it didn't happen.
But it always does.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2015 03:25 PM (IPzoI)
Posted by: Lauren at May 08, 2015 03:25 PM (yJV4S)
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:19 PM (iQIUe)
If she in fact invested it period, then yes.
Posted by: Just some guy at May 08, 2015 03:25 PM (yxw0r)
JK Rowlings is a billionaire. How many jobs has she created? crickets
Posted by: Bruce J at May 08, 2015 03:15 PM (iQIUe)
Probably more than a few. There are publishing companies and
bookstores still in business due in part to the popularity of her
product.
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And the movies, and the people who make my Harry Potter jammies.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 03:21 PM (XUKZU)
We're making more money than you can shake a stick at.
Posted by: Toy Wands-R-Us at May 08, 2015 03:25 PM (TOk1P)
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It's better to remain silent and have people think you're a pussy than to speak up and remove all doubt.
- Shit Mark Twain Said, Vol. XXXI.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 08, 2015 03:25 PM (XUKZU)
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Got a few of our own.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitt at May 08, 2015 03:26 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Buzzion at May 08, 2015 03:24 PM (z/Ubi)
I know. But if he's going to act smug I'd like to at least have some kind of citation, even if it's to some BS site like MMFA.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 08, 2015 03:26 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: a Limey at May 08, 2015 03:26 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 03:26 PM (+zma3)
Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2015 03:27 PM (IPzoI)
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I'm convinced that was fight between Texan rich guys. He purposely ran as a spopiler because of animus towards Bush Pere.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitt at May 08, 2015 03:28 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 03:26 PM (+zma3)
Which apparently the all growed up Hermoine Granger does NOT wear.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2015 03:30 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Associated Press at May 08, 2015 03:30 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at May 08, 2015 03:31 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at May 08, 2015 03:32 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: AP at May 08, 2015 03:33 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 08, 2015 03:33 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 08, 2015 03:34 PM (+zma3)
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015 03:34 PM (DoEGi)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 08, 2015 03:35 PM (/Ho8c)
So Russell Brand thought he was like Bono or something?
Posted by: Bruce Springsteen at May 08, 2015 03:35 PM (wAQA5)
Reserve. A more obscure event was the selling off of the 40ft tall berms
of bauxite that had been sitting at the SeaBee base in Gulfport, MS
since WWII.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 02:56 PM (k+itx)
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AP, not so fast. I'd be mighty happy to see Uncle Sam sell a whole bunch of what he's holding. The Treasury holds about $3 trillion of assets, of which almost $1 trillion are student loans. Lots of assets are being held at book value, which is substantially less than fair market value. Let's sell off a trillion or so of the stuff the government owns.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 03:39 PM (t2m1Y)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 08, 2015 03:40 PM (R8hU8)
Americans not in workforce
93,175K, in April
93,194K, IN May
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 08, 2015 03:40 PM (R8hU
Rounding error. However, to get a rate, we need to know what the denominator is -- how big was the adult populatioon at the end of April and May? Either way, job creation under SCOAMT sucks.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 08, 2015 03:42 PM (t2m1Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 03:43 PM (k+itx)
They lie so much they begin to believe themselves and lash out when their fables unravel.
We all remember 'voter irregularity' in Florida...
Liberal media doctrine proceeds as follows:
"If I win, I'm still the champion. If you win, well, that's just impossible and our election was stolen".
UK needed this win VERY badly. If the labour party won with their ties to the Islamic 'respect' (I can't even type that without saying bullshit out loud) party I fear it would have been the beginning of the end for Britain.
After hearing cameron call radical islam poisonous and a death cult my mind is put at ease for their country.
Ours on the other hand... Welll fuck head just sent lynch to MD (OF COURSE) but has yet to do anything at all in the name of AMERICANS. It's been black pandering to the gills and it's fucking ridiculous.
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 08, 2015 03:51 PM (MV2jA)
Posted by: rd at May 08, 2015
Because it's in their best interest to change and no one is responsible for their livelihood but them. Recent polling trends indicate there is a desire among the Scots to reduce welfare, and they'll have five years to figure it out if they leave the UK.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2015 03:59 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Ed in London at May 08, 2015 04:29 PM (bTalx)
Riddle me this, why in the blue blazes do these people need a resume and
list of contacts after I have already imparted to them via their
standardized online entry forms that same information?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 08, 2015 03:43 PM (k+itx)"
Yeah, we were kind of wondering that, ourselves........ooooh, is this mike on? Please ignore that last comment, okay? *switches back to Romulan-style cloaking mode*
Posted by: NSA/AceOSpades Liason at May 08, 2015 04:41 PM (8E9QA)
They also devolved powers to Scotland and gave it a parliament in order to shore up their own votes but this bribery backfired on them last night.
Nigel Farage will be back. It's what most UKIP voters like myself want. He is the best voice for our movement and the best person to hold the bastards feet to the fire.
I noticed in your podcast you got a few things muddled. If you want to know what is actually going on over here I can clear things up for you.
Posted by: stv at May 09, 2015 12:18 AM (kBER1)
Farage took UKIP from getting 3% of the votes to nearly 13% - they are the third most voted for party in the country. No way he won't get voted back if he throws his hat in.
UKIP got nearly as many votes as the SNP, greens and lib dems put together, they got 65 seats between them, UKIP got one.
If proportional representation was in place, UKIP would have 82 seats.
Posted by: Ukipper at May 09, 2015 06:05 AM (2k/co)
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