NFL: Everything Is on the Table As to Tom Brady's Lies and Cheating, Including the Possibility of a One-Year Suspension

So the DeflateGate report came out yesterday, and found that the balls were deliberately deflated, and that texts between various equipment managers proved they were being so deflated, and that Tom Brady knew of this (as they were doing it for Brady), and that Prince Brady suspiciously started talking to these lowly equipment handlers a lot following the revelations about the deflated ball.

Hey buddy...? You doin' okay buddy? Anything I can do for you, buddy?

The report also noted that Brady, who claimed to have nothing to hide, lawyered up and refused to assist the investigation.

So: He knew, he lied, he cheated, and he covered up.

Sounds like a Democratic presidential candidate to me!

The Miami Herald now reports the NFL is taking this seriously, or at least wishes to be seen as taking this seriously.


The small tidbit of news I can offer is that the NFL is weighing a suspension of New England quarterback Tom Brady that could span up to one season. "Everything is being studied, everything is being considered," an NFL source with knowledge of the disciplinary procedure told me Wednesday night.

The source said it would be wrong to think a season-long suspension will absolutely be the punishment doled out because that decision had not been finalized at the time of our conversation. But he also said it would be wrong to dismiss such an extended and seemingly improbable length of time as the ceiling for discipline.

The source declined to give a discipline floor, or the most lenient discipline Brady is facing. Interestingly, the source did not mention possible discipline for New England coach Bill Belichick or owner Robert Kraft.

It is clear the NFL is expecting to hand down some sort of discipline on #deflategate following the unveiling of the Ted Wells report at 1 p.m. Wednesday.

Posted by: Ace at 03:02 PM




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1 Tom cannot deflate the balls all by himself!

Posted by: Giselle at May 07, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

2 Ow, my balls!

Posted by: wooga at May 07, 2015 03:01 PM (iV+qM)

3
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/1!?!?!??111?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 07, 2015 03:02 PM (HSmrB)

4 Aren't they getting sued for concussions or something? I just don't follow the NFL anymore.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 07, 2015 03:03 PM (xSCb6)

5 Yawn

Posted by: CUS at May 07, 2015 03:03 PM (wcLJG)

6 Go figure.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:04 PM (AkOaV)

7 Tom gets suspended for 4 games, everyone forgets about it except fans of other AFC East teams.

Posted by: brak at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (Tj+s6)

8 Brady sounds like he is preparing to throw his hat into the democrat primary ring

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (eW+UG)

9 Just how big should balls be, anyway?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (8ZskC)

10
So "more probable than not" is the threshold for a year's suspension?

I rather doubt it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (JtwS4)

11 In before the But Everybody Cheats brigade comments.

The report was interesting, just as a detective story. I was particularly impressed by the thoroughness of the scientific consultants.

Although it's written in legalese using "more probably true than not true" language, that's what happens when lawyers are involved.

Tom Brady's agent's defense is hysterically funny: Yee says that when the Colts raised questions about the Patriots' footballs prior to the AFC Championship Game, the NFL should have warned the Patriots that their footballs would be tested.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (9BRsg)

12 The penalty should fit the crime, and that makes the punishment pretty obvious:

Tom Brady needs to be whacked in his balls with a slapstick until they're deflated and squishy.

And Ru-Paul gets to be the hands-on judge as to when enough is enough.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (Kpl3J)

13 If I was a Democrat I'd vote for Him, but I am a Eagles fan so burn him at the stake.

Posted by: skip at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (GF3eE)

14 The Miami Herald now reports the NFL is taking this seriously, or at least wishes to be seen as taking this seriously.

The latter, I suspect. I doubt a popular and highly paid QB is going to see anything more than a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

15 Lies and cheating and avoiding responsibility are resume enhancements in politics. My guess is Tom is doing homework.

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (3ne0f)

16 I think this is a big nothing-burger. I have played ball with slightly deflated pressure because we didn't have an air pump at the time. It makes no damn difference.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (wlDny)

17 Brady should have hired the Clinton PR team to clean this up for him.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)

18 This is very serious and the fans deserve justice.

Posted by: Lois Lerner at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (3a584)

19 Is this equal to being caught knocking your lady unconscious and dragging her out ofan elevator? We'll see if Da Commish will drop the hammer on the Pats or not.

Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (rRBI0)

20 ***soccer alert***

in other news...

Messi brought tears to my eyes yesterday.
Barcelona stomped Bayern Munich (yay!)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (IXrOn)

21 Sounds like he's in trouble. Maybe he should punch his wife or something?

Posted by: Dang at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (FRkJH)

22 Damn, wooga, damn.

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (LA7Cm)

23 I'm looking for the right words....oh yeah...I really don't give a rat's ass.

I'm a Jet's fan and I don't give a shit.

I think the whole thing is pretty funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (rDqRv)

24 I think this is a big nothing-burger. I have played ball with slightly deflated pressure because we didn't have an air pump at the time. It makes no damn difference.

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Exactly the same as the NFL.


Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (gmeXX)

25 I was getting coffee this morning at work and someone walked in and said, very loudly, "Tom Brady is a damn liar!"

My reply was, "I think we have a lot more to worry about as a civilized society than Tom Brady."

Who cares?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (vg8iE)

26 Everything Is on the Table As to Tom Brady's Lies and Cheating, Including the Possibility of a One-Year Suspension



Yet Hillary can run for preezy.


What a country.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (pWF5P)

27 The NFL these days? Never trust any corporation that engages the SJW's. For example, Reddit was founded to be the SJW version of Stormfront -- not for a financial profit, but for a social one with a tax avoidance scheme to always loose money overtly but take money under the table from political donors. The NFL looks to be going that way, a funnel for SJW's.

Posted by: Yes means Maybe at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (7wyDO)

28 I'm outraged Tom Brady thinks he can just lie his way out of this.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (3a584)

29 This was one of those stories that was interesting for like a week.

At this point, I don't really care.

But I'm sure others do, so... carry on.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (AkOaV)

30 Like I could give a rat's ass.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (Tqdpu)

31 I listened to a tiny bit of Rush's opining on this this morn before I rushed off to a meeting. Rush was making it sound like there's a witch hunt against Brady, or did I misunderstand him?

If Brady's culpable he's culpable, obviously, but I think the NFL thinks they need to smack down Brady and then all the nasty PR about them will go away. Hahahahaha, that's cute!

Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (yRwC8)

32 16 I think this is a big nothing-burger. I have played ball with slightly deflated pressure because we didn't have an air pump at the time. It makes no damn difference.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 07, 2015 03:06 PM (wlDny)


It is not possible to underinflate Brontosaurus Skin.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (M+9nV)

33 What does he care? How many Superbowl rings does he have?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (2TN4k)

34 *taps give-a-fuck-ometer*

Huh. Nothing.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (D51hO)

35 I think Rush had it right. NBC is on the phone to the NFL telling them "Brady had better be on the field opening night!"

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (z/Ubi)

36 17 Brady should have hired the Clinton PR team to clean this up for him.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)

You drag a deflated football through an equipment room and you never know what you'll get.

Posted by: James "Snakehead" Carville at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (RD7QR)

37 Is this equal to being caught knocking your lady unconscious and dragging her out ofan elevator?

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No - but at least it is related to football.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (gmeXX)

38 I like the good ole days when it was just bread and circuses.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (BZAd3)

39 Who fucking cares?

Posted by: brainpimp at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (zosQc)

40 >>It is not possible to underinflate Brontosaurus Skin.

Thread-winner!

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (9BRsg)

41 This is, what, the 3rd or 4th time the Patriots and/or someone with the Patriots have been accused of cheating. Who do they think they are, the Clinton's?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (/HC6x)

42 This is, what, the 3rd or 4th time the Patriots and/or someone with the Patriots have been accused of cheating. Who do they think they are, the Clinton's?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (/HC6x)

43
The integrity/corruption theme encompasses this particular sports story, so in that way sports becomes not an escape, but an extension of our national/cultural degradation.

See, silver lining! (anyway, we might get a whiny "why post about stupid sports stories?" comment, leading to an ace-whipping, which is always entertaining)

Oh and BTW, yesterday heard that some fascist/racist ("leftist" for you stuck on outdated and conventional terminology) nutso outfit in SF is selling expertise to CA school districts that includes advising teachers not to penalize tardiness (it's a cultural difference) and avoid the "hard work is rewarded" sorts of themes for youngsters (this is imposing "white culture"). No, I'm not kidding. Not clear if any of the poison was adopted in practice - or whether it merely added to the poison already in circulation - but gotta say that the hits just keep on coming. No let up.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (afQnV)

44 I'm just here for the free bread.

Posted by: Distracted Roman Citiizen at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (FRkJH)

45 Despicable.

Posted by: Jon Corzine at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (3a584)

46 When we people learn? It's not the "crime" it's the cover up.

Every time there's some seemingly insignificant thing that comes up, people begin the lying and hiding. Usually it's found out anyway and the punishment is worse.

People will excuse screw-ups because we all do it.

The lying is what gets you.

By the way, there's no way in the world that Tom Terrific gets a year. No Freaking Way.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (X+nFp)

47 Is Brady old enough to be president?

Would Giselle let him?

Posted by: Another Lurking Lurker What Lurks at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (0/Pcz)

48 " I think this is a big nothing-burger."



I didn't think much of it either. Both teams played with them. They were changed out at halftime. The butt-kicking the Pats were laying on the Colts had nothing to do deflated footballs.

A little dirty but it's like not he was putting money on games or anything.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (LA7Cm)

49 Mom always said, "don't play ball in the house."

Posted by: Bobby Brady at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (8ZskC)

50 Lemmi see Sports radio in NYC/NJ is talking about Brady Gate and Ranger Hockey?

Oh G-D please shoot me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (rDqRv)

51 Sounds like the Deal with Satan is over...

Posted by: tu3031 at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (YFFpo)

52 *checks pockets*

Nope. All out of fucks to give.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (h4vJk)

53 Make no mistake; Brady's a dick.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (Gizfs)

54 I listened to a tiny bit of Rush's opining on this this morn before I rushed off to a meeting. Rush was making it sound like there's a witch hunt against Brady, or did I misunderstand him?

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He was bemoaning the lack of a smoking gun and that it was all based on circumstantial evidence. This is the CSI effect. There is nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (gmeXX)

55 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (LA7Cm)

well, again, not that I care, but no thats not true.

Offense places with their own balls.

So the colts QB had his own balls, Brady had his own balls.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (AkOaV)

56 What would NASCAR do?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (JO9+V)

57 Mom always said, "don't play ball in the house."
Posted by: Bobby Brady at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (8ZskC)

No yu dumb homo fuck. She said stop playing with your balls in the house jack ass.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (rDqRv)

58 ACE.... you are out of your mind. Did you read the report? Did you note that the report does not say he or anyone did deflate any footballs, but that they "PROBABLY" did something, but Wells could not say what they did or how they did it or exactly when they did it.
ACE.... did you know that the report also said that a number of the Colt's footballs were also under inflated?

So, ACE, stop acting like a total moron and a "sheeple" and use some of that 86 IQ to think for yourself instead of parroting the idiot line about Brady.

The NFL blew it and is now trying to cover its ass.... they can't even say if cold weather in other games or even this game could have caused the deflated footballs because they did not conduct any research on that.

ACE... stop being a moron.

Posted by: PhilipJames at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (Pbe3i)

59 LOOK AT ME I DONT CARE ABOUT POPULAR CULTURE

Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (DLBJh)

60 Ya mean Brady did something wrong?

Posted by: A-Rod at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (rDqRv)

61 With or without pay

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (EYV/G)

62 52
*checks pockets*



Nope. All out of fucks to give.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (h4vJk)

*shoves fucks through usb port*
Here, take some of mine. I'm married.

Posted by: flounder at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (ecDRv)

63 We got 'im!

Protect the US from evil-doers?

Check! Blank check, that is.

Posted by: The NSA at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (FcR7P)

64 If this is a big deal to you--get a life.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (0x/TW)

65 Brady should just come out and announce that's he's gay and this will all go away.
*advice given free of charge*

Posted by: LGoPs at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (Tqdpu)

66 How can anyone who is tapping Giselle Bundchen have deflated balls?

Posted by: Roy at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (VndSC)

67 "So the colts QB had his own balls, Brady had his own balls. "


Are you sure about that? That's not what has been being reported.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (LA7Cm)

68 >>I didn't think much of it either. Both teams played with them.

Team on offense uses their own balls, actually.

I'm not sure I understand why cheating is ok nowadays.

In any event, the investigation points to this having started earlier in the season and possibly further back than that.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (9BRsg)

69 Apparently Brady gave these guy a couple signed football worth 35,000 dollars per football as a thank you for their efforts.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (kQBSd)

70 Certainly a lot of people commenting here that don't care.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (xSCb6)

71 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (rDqRv)

72 Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:10 PM (gmeXX)

Well, to be fair, the media has spent the last few months demanding impossibly high standards of evidence to prove the Clintons did anything wrong. And that's their standard when it comes to government malfeasance or D politician malfeasance...

But now they're convicting Brady on what (I'm told, I havent read and dont plan on reading) seems to be fairly weak circumstantial evidence.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

73 MSM response to all this....SQUIRREL!!!!! (and please ignore all the other bad shit going on) please.......

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (uJK1E)

74
What does he care? How many Superbowl rings does he have?
Posted by: Lizzy
....................................
and he's laughing all the way to the bedroom.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (wAQA5)

75 ACE... stop being a moron.

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Oh boy. You might make a great juror.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (gmeXX)

76 ACE... stop being a moron.

A formal written resignation would be required.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

77 I didn't think much of it either. Both teams played with them. They were changed out at halftime. The butt-kicking the Pats were laying on the Colts had nothing to do deflated footballs.
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Dude this was covered heavily when this first happened. No they don't. Both teams do not play with them. Each team has their own separate game balls to use.

And whether they kicked their butts with them or without them is immaterial to whether they were violating the rules.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (z/Ubi)

78 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM (LA7Cm)

positive, yes.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

79 *shoves fucks through usb port*
Here, take some of mine. I'm married.
Posted by: flounder at May 07, 2015 03:12 PM


*wipes off monitor*

Thanks. I needed that laugh.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (h4vJk)

80 Brady should retire if this happens. Tell the NFL to fuck itself and its balls.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (0LHZx)

81 THIS IS ALL FAHKING BULLSHIT!! TOM BRADY IS A FAHKING GAWD AMONG MEN AND WOULD NEVUH HAVE TO CHEAT TO WIN!!!

AND EVEN IF HE DID CHEAT, HE DIDN'T FAHKING NEED TO, BECAUSE HE'S FAHCKING AWESOME AND YOU ARE ALL JUST JEALOUS FAHKING HATUHS!

Posted by: Die Hard Patriots Fan at May 07, 2015 03:13 PM (XlHZs)

82 Yee says that when the Colts raised questions about
the Patriots' footballs prior to the AFC Championship Game, the NFL
should have warned the Patriots that their footballs would be tested.
Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (9BRsg)


I feel your pain Brady!

Posted by: Lance Armstrong, who also has a ball problem at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (yRwC8)

83 Are you sure about that? That's not what has been being reported.

Yep, each team supplies game balls for there series of downs.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (kQBSd)

84 Paging Al Sharpton! Al Sharpton to Foxboro, please...

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (FcR7P)

85 If he gets punished in any meaningful way I'll eat my hat.

It pains me to say this but maybe they're making Brady the fall guy. I don't have the impression that he's a real leader of the team behind the scenes. It looks like all Belichick to me. His way or the highway and no one talks.

Posted by: Adrienne at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (lVcuh)

86 So what. Next thread please.

Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (Rv7K2)

87 I say get the MFPD after him.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (wAQA5)

88 Both Hillary and Obama have to be eating this shit up.

Obama's masterful foreign policy going bat shit in Iraq and Yemen. Iran continuing to make the U.S. look impotent. IRS shit coming out all over the place. Hillary's shit continuing to get scattered in the breeze.

And we get deflated balls.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (BZAd3)

89
"So the colts QB had his own balls, Brady had his own balls. "


Are you sure about that? That's not what has been being reported.


Yes, that's how it works. And the kickers have their own balls, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (JtwS4)

90 Go Jets!

Posted by: guy that yells go jets at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (CwJyu)

91
My reply was, "I think we have a lot more to worry about as a civilized society than Tom Brady."

Who cares?
****

I don't care if other people care...but I really don't care anything about this. This is in the pot with shit kim kardashian said and other assorted celebrity gossip for me. Meh.

Posted by: Lea at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (lIU4e)

92 Well, it's not like there's anything else happening in the world or the news.

Posted by: Airhead Who Thinks "TrueCon" Is Clever Snark at May 07, 2015 03:14 PM (afQnV)

93 What difference at this point does it make? That was like a year ago, dude. It depends on what the meaning of is, is. I'm not a crook.

Posted by: Roy at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (VndSC)

94 Bet his ass goes to the white House next time...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (jsWA8)

95 What was the score of the game 48-10, something like that? Without the under-inflated balls it would have been 45-10. Yep, a 1 year suspension is totally warranted.

Now had Brady beaten the shit out of his wife or shot someone, then he'd get what, a 2 game suspension? Maybe.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (0LHZx)

96 They can feel free to suspend him in December when my Texans play New England. Ah, who am I kidding? By then, our season will be down the toilet again anyway.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (z8i6G)

97 A preseason game suspension? Maybe. A fine? Certainly a non-zero possibility.

Anything more severe, like an in-season suspension or worse: zero chance.

He'd retire if they did something serious, or even if they threaten his "legacy" (I'm starting to hate that word) and the NFL has enough problems.

Posted by: MTF at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (FCsIb)

98 Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (DLBJh)

well, if I wanted to argue about Bradys Balls I'd be on Barstool Sports right now guessing asses and talking about Balls and not over here with you morons.

Just sayin.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)

99 Well, doesn't that suck. Guess I'll go bang my supermodel wife on one of our money piles and see if I feel better...

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (YFFpo)

100 But now they're convicting Brady on what (I'm told, I havent read and dont plan on reading) seems to be fairly weak circumstantial evidence.

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It seemed pretty strong to me. Just the fact that he didn't turn over his phone is somewhat strong to me. Now don't get me wrong - I probably would have also choosen not to give over my phone. But you accept that inferences will be drawn against you at that point.

With respect to the media - that is their problem. The circumstantial evidence for HRC is pretty overwhelming.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (gmeXX)

101 Dissolve the union!!1!!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM (1RNgT)

102 "Dude this was covered heavily when this first happened. No they don't. Both teams do not play with them. Each team has their own separate game balls to use.

And whether they kicked their butts with them or without them is immaterial to whether they were violating the rules. "



Well pardon me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM (LA7Cm)

103 Are you sure about that? That's not what has been being reported.

That's how it works. You supply your own balls. If you intercept one, though, do you get to keep it?

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM (FcR7P)

104 I quit watching the NFL a long time ago anyway. Their game just became boring as hell.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM (wlDny)

105 According to the report they started tampering with the game balls in October after Brady complained about the game balls.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM (kQBSd)

106 McD's = bread. Sports = circuses.

Posted by: Juvenal Delinquent at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (xkSSa)

107 Who cares?


Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2015 03:08 PM (vg8iE)


ESPN cares, and through ESPN you know who also cares.

"My fellow Americans - This. Will. Not. Stand."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (hLRSq)

108 I think they should only let him play the first quarter of the first two preseason games.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (M+9nV)

109 Did someone mention balls?

Posted by: Mike Brady at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (8ZskC)

110 National Felon League

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (jsWA8)

111 Weren't we suppose to hit the national debt limit some time ago? Guess all is okay now.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (BLFGI)

112 If the *worst* you can get for cheating in the playoffs is a one year suspension, why wouldn't you do it?

If the NFL wants to have the punishment meet the crime, frankly they should be talking a lifetime ban and the results of the Superbowl formally stricken so that there will be no victor for the year.

If you do that you can be damn sure there will be no future cheating. But then again the NFL let the Cowboys and 49ers cheat the salary cap for years...and the latter be owned by a mafioso, so I don't see anything like that coming down the line.

They'll fine Brady what for him is a trivial amount and then call it a day.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (78TbK)

113 I don't care if other people care...but I really don't care anything about this.

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I care about this attitude (prevalent in this country) that circumstantial evidence should just be discounted and only direct "smoking gun" evidence should matter.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)

114
"to do a lesbian" is ancient greek slang for giving a man a blow job.

huh....

Posted by: Bruce J at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (iQIUe)

115 I don't care about Tom Brady's deflated balls.

Posted by: The commentor who doesn't care and really needs you to hear that I don't care. at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (JtwS4)

116 One thing is for certain; If congress decides to investigate this, we can be certain they will take this seriously enough to get to the bottom of it.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (BZAd3)

117 The NFL can suspend him until spring training camp starts.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (eW+UG)

118 Hillary has her own balls, too


You Jets and Ravens fans need to STFU, suck it up, and consider suicide

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (8CdUx)

119 Let me handle this. I know a thing or two about busting balls.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (xkSSa)

120 I think Maury may have been in on this one too.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (8ZskC)

121
Totally out of shits to give.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (jeCnD)

122 I care about this attitude (prevalent in this country) that circumstantial evidence should just be discounted and only direct "smoking gun" evidence should matter.
Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)

__________

It's the CSI Effect.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (0LHZx)

123 So what, I like softer balls. Isn't this, really, also the story of Barack Obama?

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (FcR7P)

124 Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (gmeXX)

Failing to turn over your phone doesn't prove anything. He could be looking at huge financial penalties, I'm sure he lawyered up early and his lawyer told him "innocent or guilty, don't cooperate. Don't testify against yourself, and don't say or do anything that can be used against you whether its related to balls or not. If they have a case to prove, they can prove it on their own without your help."

Which is what any criminal defense attorney would tell any one suspected of any crime.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (AkOaV)

125 Did someone mention balls?

Posted by: Mike Brady at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM


Yeah...the nose isn't a good place for them. Trust me.

Posted by: MarciaBrady at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (h4vJk)

126 Looks like we got a few people looking for an ace banning.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (xSCb6)

127
patriots need tocall bill clinton have him talk to roger godell then the patriots pay clinton500,000 to give a speech at an nfl charity event.problem solved

Posted by: kj at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (lKyWE)

128 >59

THANK YOU PhilipJames. Ace, I am a devoted reader but you're being a big old prick about this. Sure it's fun to hate the Pats because they're the evil empire and they're the team that head-up-their-ass NE democrats all pull for, but Tom Brady is getting fucking railroaded over nothing, the investigation was a sham, the league looks worse and worse every day, and it's turning me off of the sport. I am a pats fan myself, full disclosure, but that doesn't change the fact that this is some pine-tar- or cleat-spike-measurement level bullshit. Brady DID assist the investigation, he just didn't turn over his phone or phone records, which, considering the prying and assumptions that would have been made about anything at all that was found, is more than understandable.

How about you take your own advice about popular culture and chill the hell out. TAWM BRADY IS A FACKIN SAINT MUTHAFUCKAH.

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (LFBrC)

129
Tom's punishment will be swift and harsh. His wife Gisele will be forced to spend one year living with Dr. Fish and perform all wifely duties while Tom lives alone repenting for his egregious actions.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (P330y)

130 I don't care if they're deflated... does he shave them?

Posted by: Don Lemon at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (wAQA5)

131 Goatfuckers gotta goatfuck.


My reply was, "I think we have a lot more to worry about as a civilized society than Tom Brady."

You can't have a "civilized society" when no one gives a fuck about lying and cheating and coverups. But that's been obvious since 2008.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (ZKzrr)

132 The NFL blew it and is now trying to cover its ass.... they can't even say if cold weather in other games or even this game could have caused the deflated footballs because they did not conduct any research on that.

ACE... stop being a moron.
Posted by: PhilipJames at May 07, 2015 03:11 PM (Pbe3i)

Not sure if sock puppet...

Posted by: joncelli the Really Fat Police Dog at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

133 >>Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:16 PM

Yes, but it sounds like they suspect it went back further based on the dude's self-proclaimed nickname "the Deflator" and when he started using it.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (9BRsg)

134 I care about this attitude (prevalent in this country) that circumstantial evidence should just be discounted and only direct "smoking gun" evidence should matter.
Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)

__________

It's the CSI Effect.

----

Agree - as I said before. But direct evidence can be quite faulty, especially eye witness accounts. And forensic evidence can really be faulty - as we are seeing with the FBI.

Circumstantial evidence is great - if a lot of it. Eventually it can be overwhelming.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (gmeXX)

135 Totally out of shits to give.


Posted by: irongrampa at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (jeCnD)

Sorry. Can't help you there.

Posted by: flounder at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (ecDRv)

136 If they want the smoking gun, ask the ball boys and referees who handled the balls on every single play, and defenders who picked up a fumble or loose ball after an incompletion if the balls were under inflated.

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (FcR7P)

137 My "Don't Give a Shit" meter is pegged at zero.

This is a media "SQUIRREL!!!!!"

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (TV9BR)

138 The time to do something about this was before the Superbowl. I don't take the NFL's urgency seriously at this point.

No, I am not a Seahawks fan.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (LZFcA)

139 127
patriots need tocall bill clinton have him talk to roger godell then the patriots pay clinton500,000 to give a speech at an nfl charity event.problem solved
Posted by: kj at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (lKyWE)


Why spend the money? Kraft can just talk to goodell the next time he comes to party on his yacht.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (z/Ubi)

140 Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)

Well, there seem to be different burdens of evidence depending on who you are.

R politician? Innuendo is all you need.
Normal jackass off the street? Circumstantial evidence
Govt Employee? "Smoking gun"
D politician? Video taped confession

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (AkOaV)

141 129
Tom's punishment will be swift and harsh. His wife Gisele will be forced to spend one year living with Dr. Fish and perform all wifely duties while Tom lives alone repenting for his egregious actions.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (P330y)

This must be true since he's speaking of himself in the third person, as joncelli the Really Fat Police Dog is.

Posted by: joncelli the Really Fat Police Dog at May 07, 2015 03:21 PM (RD7QR)

142 Is Brady old enough to be president? Would Giselle let him? Posted by: Another Lurking Lurker What Lurks at May 07, 2015 03:09 PM (0/Pcz)

You know, if Giselle was first lady, at least then we'd finally have one worthy of the fashionista slobbering the media liberally gives out to dem ladies. Michelle has been praised to the skies as if she is the second coming of Jackie O, when in reality it looks like she dressed herself in the dark half the time. If the media is going to fawn, would be nice to have a FLOTUS that ACTUALLY knows what they are doing when it comes to clothes.

But I thought Tom Brady gave off Republican vibes? Am I wrong? I get the sense Belichek is, for some reason I thought Brady was too.

Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (yRwC8)

143 but Tom Brady is getting fucking railroaded over nothing cheating and lying about it

FIFY.

Also, he fucks goats, but that's cool under sharia.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (ZKzrr)

144 they can't even say if cold weather in other games or even this game could have caused the deflated footballs because they did not conduct any research on that.
--

The consulting firm looked into the weather effect claims. Also into the football rubbing caused PSI differences claims. And many other claims made by the Patriots.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (9BRsg)

145 I think the issue is not the deflated balls, but Brady's freakishly small hands. We all know what that means.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (eW+UG)

146 A number of people have compared him to the Clintons. If he is punished, it will just be one more example of how private secular corruption is more easily correctable than government corruption.

Posted by: Enough Ell at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (xkSSa)

147 But I thought Tom Brady gave off Republican vibes? Am I wrong? I get the sense Belichek is, for some reason I thought Brady was too.
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (yRwC

__________

Brady was invited to a SOTU by evil George W. Bush. But I don't know if he's ever said how leans politically.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (0LHZx)

148 Rearranging the goal posts on the Titanic.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (lKSyl)

149 Totally out of shits to give.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 07, 2015 03:19 PM (jeCnD)


I may have some old shits out back I could lend you, but I don't know what shape they're in.

Posted by: jwest at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (9ZZd+)

150 If I were Tom Brady I'd say screw you guys and sign with a CFL team.

Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (mt2jL)

151
(Pbe3i)

Not sure if sock puppet...


Posted under that name a food thread in April. I google "minx.cc + hash" when I'm curious about a sock. It works.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (JtwS4)

152 If you like your deflated balls, you can keep your deflated balls.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar of Fecal Touch at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (TV9BR)

153 Oh, and for the record I'm sure Brady not only knew but orchestrated the whole ball deflating thing.

But I mean... eh

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (AkOaV)

154 I think the issue is not the deflated balls, but Brady's freakishly small hands. We all know what that means.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM


He's a carney?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (h4vJk)

155 But I thought Tom Brady gave off Republican vibes? Am I wrong? I get the sense Belichek is, for some reason I thought Brady was too.


------

I think both Brady and Peyton Manning have given some indications of being Republican.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)

156 You know, if Giselle was first lady, at least then we'd finally have
one worthy of the fashionista slobbering the media liberally gives out
to dem ladies.


Are Mao bikinis really better than Mao Christmas tree ornaments?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (ZKzrr)

157 All Brady has to say is he liked balls a little soft and he never told anyone to deflate balls to a pressure below that listed in NFL rules.

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (MQEz6)

158 150 If I were Tom Brady I'd say screw you guys and sign with a CFL team.
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (mt2jL)

_________

FUCKIN' EH??

Posted by: Toronto Argonauts at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (0LHZx)

159 There are a bunch of Little League players in Chicago waiting to see what happens when "Whitey" cheats.

Posted by: Rev Jesse Jackson at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (e8kgV)

160 150 If I were Tom Brady I'd say screw you guys and sign with a CFL team.
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:23 PM (mt2jL)


We'd take him in Denver, but he's not old enough yet.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (M+9nV)

161 Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:20 PM (9BRsg)

I liked the 35,000 dollar autographed game balls he gave them. That's one hell of a thank you.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (kQBSd)

162 Have the job of toughening up the sensitive gay rookie go to Incognito.

Posted by: the 'fins at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (Kxz3Y)

163 If the NFL wants to have the punishment meet the crime, frankly they should be talking a lifetime ban and the results of the Superbowl formally stricken so that there will be no victor for the year.If you do that you can be damn sure there will be no future cheating. But then again the NFL let the Cowboys and 49ers cheat the salary cap for years...and the latter be owned by a mafioso, so I don't see anything like that coming down the line.They'll fine Brady what for him is a trivial amount and then call it a day.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2015 03:17 PM (78TbK)


--------------------------------------------


Here we go. LET THE VITRIOL FLOW!

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2015 03:25 PM (/HX7u)

164 You know, if Giselle was first lady

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We'd have dreams of seeing the first lady in a bikini instead of nightmares.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 07, 2015 03:25 PM (lKSyl)

165
If suspended for one year, Tom Brady will immediately retire and refuse to recompense the NFL if burdened by a large fine. He would return at age 39, and that is possibly beyond his sell date.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 07, 2015 03:25 PM (P330y)

166 When you can't beat someone it always seems the next step is to claim they cheat. I'm no NE fan but I hate mob mentality.

Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:25 PM (mt2jL)

167 Think of all the cities the Patriots beat last year. The NFL had to do something, if they didn't want another Ferguson or Baltimore on their hands...

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2015 03:26 PM (FcR7P)

168 But I thought Tom Brady gave off Republican vibes? Am I wrong? I get the sense Belichek is, for some reason I thought Brady was too.
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2015 03:22 PM (yRwC

Bellichek is a lefty, IIRC.

Posted by: joncelli the Really Fat Police Dog at May 07, 2015 03:26 PM (RD7QR)

169 I have a pump he could use, in case anything's deflated.

Posted by: Micha Stunz at May 07, 2015 03:26 PM (xkSSa)

170 159 There are a bunch of Little League players in Chicago waiting to see what happens when "Whitey" cheats.
Posted by: Rev Jesse Jackson at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (e8kgV)



We are going to pass this test by practicing the Beel Belichck method.


How do I reach these kids?

Posted by: Eric Cartmanez at May 07, 2015 03:26 PM (z/Ubi)

171 And even with the smoking gun texts, the Cheatriots fans are still screeching in unison that the Cheatriots are innocent as new-born lambs.

The comments sections at ESPN.com are rather frightening.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 07, 2015 03:26 PM (7ObY1)

172 Players cheat every game. Every time a penalty is called it's because someone cheated. And for every penalty that is called there are 3 instances of cheating that are missed by the refs.

So yeah Brady cheated. Like every other player.

But it's Brady, it's the Patriots so of course it has to be made into the crime of the century.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)

173 Simple solution ... require that Tom Brady play all of his games Strappado

Posted by: Girolamo Savonarola at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (e8kgV)

174 We need to investigate. Immediately!

Posted by: Your GOP: on the job! at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (XrHO0)

175 Seriously - "fake but accurate" goes through the entire report. "most certainly probably sort of kinda", etc. It's all circumstantial. And even if they did deflate the balls, SO FREAKIN' WHAT? They weren't deflated in the second half of that game when the Patriots laid 28 points to 0 points on the Broncos.

Brady isn't the NFL's preferred star quarterback - Peyton Manning is the preferred star quarterback and while Manning may have the records, Brady has the rings and the NFL hates that - and they hate the Krafts' for being very successful, more so than any other team in the league. They hate Belichik because he's a football genius. And the NFL HATES HATES HATES the fact that the Patriots are named Patriots with an American flag type logo and in the running for the most successful NFL franchise of all times.

I don't care what you say - you couldn't possibly deflate balls that precisely in 1 minute 40 seconds. And science pretty much proved that it was entirely possible that the balls could be deflated by air temp alone - MIT proved that conclusively. And they only tested 4 of the Bronco's balls and they were also deflated.

It's a distraction from "headachegate" and concussions.


Posted by: Teafran at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (6awKZ)

176 Look. I just think it's far more important that we consider that Michelle Obama - the first lady of... you know... can't even go to a damned Museum!

http://tinyurl.com/qemyu98

Why?

Yes. You guessed it.

Museums are racist.

But we knew that. Didn't we? In our heart of black f'n hearts, we've always suspected that those brothels of artful inequity were secret societies of racial bigotry, didn't we?

Well now the secret is out. The last refuge of racial intolerance has been exposed!

Can I get an A M E N?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (BZAd3)

177 All Brady has to say is he liked balls a little soft and he never told anyone to deflate balls to a pressure below that listed in NFL rules.

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Will no one rid me of these meddlesome inflated balls?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (lKSyl)

178 The Miami Herald now reports the NFL is taking this seriously, or at least wishes to be seen as taking this seriously.


I think that if the NFL was taking this seriously, they wouldn't have waited till after the draft to reveal their findings.

They just took a whole lot of potential punishment off the table.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (7ObY1)

179 99 Well, doesn't that suck. Guess I'll go bang my supermodel wife on one of our money piles and see if I feel better...
Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:15 PM (YFFpo)

EX super model wife, she's retired. You need to trade her in for a new model

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (EYV/G)

180 Not a Brady or a NE fan at all. In fact , I dislike them greatly.

However, can you penalize a cheater more game than a wife beater?

Preseason. Four games tops.

I'm still pissed about the 7 second field goal from the Super Bowl in 2002. The NFL had to have team named Patriots win after 9/11.

Posted by: Golfman at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (++uS+)

181 And even with the smoking gun texts, the Cheatriots fans are still
screeching in unison that the Cheatriots are innocent as new-born lambs.


Like OFA or Ready for Hillary.
*srednop*

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (ZKzrr)

182 He would return at age 39, and that is possibly beyond his sell date.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at May 07, 2015 03:25 PM (P330y)

________

He's said he thinks he could play well into his 40s. And given his insane work out schedule, diet, etc, I don't see why he couldn't.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (0LHZx)

183
>>if Giselle was first lady, at least then we'd finally have one worthy of the fashionista slobbering the media liberally gives out to dem ladies. Michelle has been praised to the skies as if she is the second coming of Jackie O, when in reality it looks like she dressed herself in the dark half the time.

Giselle would be an amazing flotus (not that I would vote for tom brady).

When the obamas were first elected, they showed like 8 gowns for the inaugural ball that were in contention...and michelle chose one that looked like it was for a 16 year old. That's when I wrote off her fashion sense.

I had dinner with some coworkers a while back and the sister of one, who is a very nice black lady, started talking about Michelle's wonderful fashion sense and I guess I couldn't help myself and said 'I like what she's wearing half the time, the other half not so much' or something. Daggers. That lady looked at my like she wanted to kill me with her eyeballs. Crazy.

Posted by: Lea at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (lIU4e)

184
Michelle has been praised to the skies as if she is the second coming of Jackie O, when in reality it looks like she dressed herself in the dark half the time.
..............................
Ah yes. Giselle would never mistake the spare shower curtain for her formal wear.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:28 PM (wAQA5)

185 I hate it when things aren't inflated enough.

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at May 07, 2015 03:29 PM (xkSSa)

186
i'm holding judgement until i hear the JEF weigh in on the subject

Posted by: kj at May 07, 2015 03:29 PM (lKyWE)

187 However, can you penalize a cheater more game than a wife beater?

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Why not? One involves the game of football and one does not.

It says nothing about the moral equivalence (or lack thereof) of the two acts.

Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:29 PM (gmeXX)

188 they can't even say if cold weather in other games or even this game could have caused the deflated footballs because they did not conduct any research on that.


Bullshit. Yes, they did research it, and no, cold weather cannot account for it.


Posted by: Citizen X at May 07, 2015 03:29 PM (7ObY1)

189 Giselle might look pretty good in one of those boob belts. And nothing else.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:30 PM (wAQA5)

190 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:30 PM (kff5f)

191 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:30 PM (kff5f)

192 143 but Tom Brady is getting fucking railroaded over nothing cheating and lying about it

FIFY.

Also, he fucks goats, but that's cool under sharia.

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I see we have a Jets fan in our midst.

There's no indication he ever asked those equipment flunkies (who just got their lives ruined, by the way) to deflate the balls below the acceptable limit. The inciting event for all of this was the midseason Jets game, during which the refs inflated the balls to 16 psi, which is insane, and it's perfectly legitimate for him to want them at the lower bound of the legal zone, 12.5-13.5 psi.

Seriously, Ace, eat a dick. Once you've done that, display some mental agility and look at it from Brady's angle: the league failed to properly measure the balls, they sampled, tested, and recorded the balls in question from the two teams differently (ever Pats ball, only 4 Colts balls), they never recorded the pregame measurements, AND a contributing factor to the obfuscation in this report is the fact that ONE OF THE REFS WAS STEALING BALLS TO SELL ON THE SIDE. Think the fact that going "Brady cheated!!!!!1 (mebbe)" in the report would help bury that fact didn't factor in the NFL's thinking on this? They're proven snakes when it comes to PR.

Most of all, goddamnit, this is a perfect example of the left's MO on handling all scandals - delay, deny, cast blame ad hominem, exploit the name/reputation of a once venerable institution as cover, gin up controversy, and wait for the masses to get sick of the topic. You're literally taking the leftist side of this whole situation.

Fuck.

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:30 PM (LFBrC)

193 And the NFL HATES HATES HATES the fact that the Patriots are ... in the running for the most successful NFL franchise of all times.

******************

I hate that, too. Thank you, salary cap, for "Patriots dynasty" and "World Champion Baltimore Ravens," among other things.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (vgIRn)

194 173 Simple solution ... require that Tom Brady play all of his games Strappado
Posted by: Girolamo Savonarola at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (e8kgV)

Oh, I love it when we do that! (Giggles)

Posted by: Giselle at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (RD7QR)

195 So... my cow-orkers apparently all just turned into Jr. High girls...

Someone save me.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (kff5f)

196
NFL is just entertainment, and about as legitmate as professional wrestling.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (eW+UG)

197 We will need to watch multiple games for many seasons in order to determine whether Congressional action is necessary. From very good seats. For accuracy.

Posted by: Your GOP: on the job! at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (cIoI4)

198 Jr. High girls who have all synchronized.

IYKWIM.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (kff5f)

199 However, can you penalize a cheater more game than a wife beater?
***
If you embezzle money at work and then go home and hit your wife which one will your job fire you for?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (78TbK)

200 >>>> Hey buddy...? You doin' okay buddy? Anything I can do for you, buddy?

That was from one of Hillary's redacted emails.

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (3ZtZW)

201 Giselle would be an amazing flotus

She's a Gorebot. Elaborate Christmas lights for her, no Christmas lights for you.

But hey, what's a little totalitarian collectivism as long as guys get a boner.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (ZKzrr)

202 Posted by: SH at May 07, 2015 03:29 PM (gmeXX)

Perception is reality.

I agree with you but OPTICS.

Posted by: Golfman at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (++uS+)

203 He's still got 4 rings, movie star good looks, is worth $150 million, and gets to pork a super model.

Posted by: Naes at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (YhayY)

204 Simple solution ... require that Tom Brady play all of his games with footballs filled with Radon.

With an atomic number of 86, these babies will be heavier than a Metallica concert.

Posted by: Albert Einstein at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (e8kgV)

205 Maybe now people will finally take the Lingerie Football League seriously.

'bout damned time.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (BZAd3)

206 200 >>>> Hey buddy...? You doin' okay buddy? Anything I can do for you, buddy?

That was from one of Hillary's redacted emails.
Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (3ZtZW)

___________

Yeah buuuuu-dy

Posted by: Pauly Shore at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (0LHZx)

207 @24: "I think this is a big nothing-burger. I have played ball with slightly
deflated pressure because we didn't have an air pump at the time. It
makes no damn difference.



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Exactly the same as the NFL."


Like as not, no one was betting millions of dollars on your games. *ANY* piece of information is valuable in the gambling context.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (amQXf)

208 As for this...

The correct answer is to vacate at least the last two wins (the one where they got caught cheating, and then the Superbowl since they should have been DQd).

And suspend Brady for a year.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (kff5f)

209 195 So... my cow-orkers apparently all just turned into Jr. High girls...

Someone save me.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:31 PM (kff5f)


Send them my way.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (z/Ubi)

210 please, someone call Peaches and find out if she is okay

Posted by: chemjeff at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (2XMpf)

211 Wahhh!! The Patriots only win because they cheat. Wahhh!!

Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (mt2jL)

212 Fact fact factor, fuck you plebian NFC fans anyway, Belichick could win with TCU's practice squad players.

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (LFBrC)

213 Fact fact factor, fuck you plebian NFC fans anyway, Belichick could win with TCU's practice squad players.

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (LFBrC)

214 Agree - as I said before. But direct evidence can be quite faulty, especially eye witness accounts.


But they shot the child in the back in my eyes!
-B'more resident

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (pWF5P)

215 Interesting. Drudge has a story up saying Rand Paul seems to be a figure in the Congressional ObamaCare fraud case.


http://bit.ly/1dQxCf9

Posted by: MTF at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (FCsIb)

216 203 He's still got 4 rings, movie star good looks, is worth $150 million, and gets to pork a super model.
Posted by: Naes at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (YhayY)

_______

Which is why he is hated by so many.

What the H8ers don't realize is that even a lowly lineman on the Raiders lives in a nice house, has a hot wife and unless he's a total imbecile, will never have to worry about money again.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (0LHZx)

217 just because I'm a giver

http://tinyurl.com/my6u8nk

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (kQBSd)

218 This looks like a job for Inflatable Scrotum Man!

Come Raisins! To the Pudmobile!

Posted by: Mild Mannered Berkeley Citizen at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (sH832)

219 Giselle would be an amazing flotus

Plus, whenever her husband was involved in a scandal, she could be accidentally caught sunbathing in the nude on some beach somewhere and the scandal would be quickly forgotten.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (BZAd3)

220 Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (78TbK

Tom Brady embezzled money?

Posted by: Cruzinator at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (mt2jL)

221 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (0LHZx


Go away you amoral contrarian troll.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (z/Ubi)

222
i'm holding judgement until i hear the JEF weigh in on the subject
Posted by: kj
..........................
He does love to go on about things he knows nothing about. Like having balls.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (wAQA5)

223 Read the constitution, patriots fans are required to be butt hurt.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (HstNY)

224 212
Fact fact factor, fuck you plebian NFC fans anyway, Belichick could win with TCU's practice squad players.

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:33 PM (LFBrC)

... you picked your poison

Posted by: Pete Rosell at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (e8kgV)

225 Brady should call a press conference and at it deflate a football, autograph it, and toss it to the press.

Watch them fight over it like monkeys.

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:35 PM (MQEz6)

226 So, everything's on the table...

The NFL is going to bomb Iran?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:36 PM (BZAd3)

227
A guy named Maury did it.

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:36 PM (ODxAs)

228
As a consolation, Michelle always wears a Sterling Silver butt-plug when demonstrating her fashion sense to the Manhattan fashion fags.

Posted by: Ralph Lauren at May 07, 2015 03:36 PM (P330y)

229 Kari does sound Boston "strong".

Posted by: River Guide at May 07, 2015 03:36 PM (RJMhd)

230 226 So, everything's on the table...

The NFL is going to bomb Iran?
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:36 PM (BZAd3)


It's more likely than Obama doing it.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:37 PM (z/Ubi)

231 159 There are a bunch of Little League players in Chicago waiting to see what happens when "Whitey" cheats.
Posted by: Rev Jesse Jackson at May 07, 2015 03:24 PM (e8kgV)

*********

But I dindu nuffin.

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:37 PM (xkSSa)

232 Lets make it fun. He can play the season, but is suspended for the play-offs.

Posted by: Vairish84 at May 07, 2015 03:37 PM (hjp//)

233 What the H8ers don't realize is that even a lowly lineman on the Raiders lives in a nice house, has a hot wife and unless he's a total imbecile, will never have to worry about money again.

And you are an imbecile.

The bulk of NFL rosters are journeyman players who don't play long enough to qualify for a pension.

Next up, every CEO in the universe makes $50 mil a year.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 07, 2015 03:37 PM (659DL)

234 It's more likely than Obama doing it.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:37 PM (z/Ubi)

Exactly.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (BZAd3)

235 As stated previously, who really gives a flying fvck other than butthurt fans?

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (4CRfK)

236 Me thinks the Patriot fans doth protest too much.

Thought I'd throw a little Shakespeare in there to try to bring up the sophistication level of you hordelings.

Your welcome.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (X+nFp)

237 But hey, what's a little totalitarian collectivism as long as guys get a boner.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 07, 2015 03:32 PM (ZKzrr)

I don't need totalitarian collectivism to get a boner, thank you very much.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (2Ojst)

238 Lets make it fun. He can play the season, but is suspended for the play-offs.

I'll make it even better. He gets to play every other play.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (659DL)

239
>>She's a Gorebot. Elaborate Christmas lights for her, no Christmas lights for you. But hey, what's a little totalitarian collectivism as long as guys get a boner.

Not a guy and I don't pay attention to 'celebrity' gossip unless it is impossible to avoid so I didn't know that.

Of course, most FLOTUS's just picked out china patterns, socializedand did charity in which case none of that would matter.

Posted by: Lea at May 07, 2015 03:38 PM (lIU4e)

240 Brady should demand a full hearing in public.

He should say he is ready to openly discuss everything he knows about the NFL.

The matter will be dropped and the NFL will give Brady the Hawaiian Islands.

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (MQEz6)

241 ... you picked your poison
---

I said COULD. And once the Jets get dinged for tampering we'll get Revis back! Right?

I'm IN the 617, but not OF it, River Guide

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (LFBrC)

242 3 words
PERSONAL
EMAIL
SERVER

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (/eTPT)

243 Brady should just say "fuck it" and quit. See how the NFL likes that.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (YFFpo)

244 There are a bunch of Little League players in Chicago waiting to see what happens when "Whitey" cheats.

Actually... this. Despite the sock.

Tom Brady is kind of the poster-boy for the NFL- even when the Patriots don't win the Super Bowl, he's one of about 2 active QBs against whom all others are measured.

If the NFL *doesn't* drop the hammer on him now, then they will never be able to drop the hammer on anyone ever again.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)

245 To all you attempting to make risque jokes, they don't inflate or deflate. They rise or drop to absorb more or less body heat in order to maintain the proper temperature. The science is settled.

Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at May 07, 2015 03:40 PM (xkSSa)

246 If the NFL *doesn't* drop the hammer on him now, then they will never be able to drop the hammer on anyone ever again.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)

Drop the hammer for what?

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:40 PM (MQEz6)

247 Brady's press interview

Question: Tom are you a cheater?

Brady: Well I don't think I am.

What a statement of innocents.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:40 PM (kQBSd)

248 Kari: an example of why when people are asked "why don't you like the patriots?" "The fans" are probably in the top five answers.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2015 03:41 PM (z/Ubi)

249 "He does love to go on about things he knows nothing about."


That's what the Internet is for.

That and pron.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 07, 2015 03:41 PM (hLRSq)

250 Brady should start talking to the CFL teams. And let the NFL know he is.

This is BS

Posted by: rd at May 07, 2015 03:41 PM (DoEGi)

251 I don't care what you say - you couldn't possibly deflate balls that precisely in 1 minute 40 seconds. And science pretty much proved that it was entirely possible that the balls could be deflated by air temp alone - MIT proved that conclusively.
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The consultants conclusively demonstrated that theory to be incorrect, actually. Page 11 of summary and the detailed report from the consultants at the end of the document.


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And they only tested 4 of the Bronco's balls and they were also deflated.
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Pages 68 and 69 of the report shows the data. Colts balls were fine.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:41 PM (9BRsg)

252 If one took a square planck-length, divided it by ten million, and then wrote as much of the word "FCUK" as possible in ten-foot tall letters in the remaining space, that is the amount of fcuks I give about this.

Posted by: West at May 07, 2015 03:41 PM (GjeLd)

253 Drop the hammer for what?
Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:40 PM (MQEz6)


Asked.

So: He knew, he lied, he cheated, and he covered up.
Posted by: Ace at 03:02 PM


Answered.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (kff5f)

254 Kari got ya.

Ace however does not eat dicks he's finicky like that.

Posted by: River Guide at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (RJMhd)

255 The bulk of NFL rosters are journeyman players who don't play long enough to qualify for a pension.

Average player career is about 3 years.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (kQBSd)

256 I'll light the fire.

Play by the rules. I need no pats on the back but I have called several penalties on myself on the golf course. My friends and not RESPECT ME. I play by the rules. Whether they like me or not, they RESPECT ME.

This is why Pete Rose should not be in the HOF.

I don't suffer cheaters well or those that break the rules.

Pfft.

And I sleep well.

Posted by: Golfman at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (++uS+)

257
wonder if he gets more punishment than the fiancee beater.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (ODxAs)

258 Keep facts to yourselves please.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (HstNY)

259 What's weird is that the news reports all cite (and even reproduce) the texts between the two Pats employees but don't say if the employees explained them in any way. The reports all say Brady lawyered up, but don't say anything about the employees. Presumably they didn't, given that they shared their phones, so shouldn't we be privy to what they said so that we can judge for ourselves what 'probably' means?

Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (7v8o1)

260
253 Drop the hammer for what?
Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:40 PM (MQEz6)

Asked.

So: He knew, he lied, he cheated, and he covered up.
Posted by: Ace at 03:02 PM

Answered.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:42 PM (kff5f)

Opinion.

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (MQEz6)

261 Look. I just think it's far more important that we
consider that Michelle Obama - the first lady of... you know... can't
even go to a damned Museum!


http://tinyurl.com/qemyu98
Why?
Yes. You guessed it.
Museums are racist.



But we knew that. Didn't we? In our heart of black f'n hearts,
we've always suspected that those brothels of artful inequity were
secret societies of racial bigotry, didn't we?
Well now the secret is out. The last refuge of racial intolerance has been exposed!
Can I get an A M E N?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 07, 2015 03:27 PM (BZAd3)


That might be the dumbest thing she said in a long time, and she constantly says dumb things.The Whitney is a modern art museum. Probably 90% of the artists on display there are raging lefties, and there is probably at least one piece of art in there at any moment ragging on Dubya. And they have a new artist showcase every year an I assure you not all of those artists can be white hipsters. So the viewpoints of people like her should be well covered.
Most museums gladly welcome students, and I'm pretty sure they let poor schools in as well as the rich. Is she implying that poor kids can't connect to art? The dumb it burns.So no books for kids, and no museums for kids. What a wonderful world we are leaving for the next generation!

Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (yRwC8)

262 So... my cow-orkers apparently all just turned into Jr. High girls...

Do tell...

Posted by: Mohammed at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (FcR7P)

263 I don't care so and you need to know that I don't.

Posted by: Commenter, commenting that he is annoyed by comments at May 07, 2015 03:44 PM (Z3lhA)

264 Oh and the consulting firm also tested how long it would take to deflate the balls. The Deflator dude had enough time while he was locked in the bathroom.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:44 PM (9BRsg)

265 66 How can anyone who is tapping Giselle Bundchen have deflated balls?

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depends on whether he can get some vitaman E. He is NOT from Havana.

Posted by: waco kid at May 07, 2015 03:44 PM (/eTPT)

266 Keep facts to yourselves please.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 07, 2015 03:43 PM (HstNY)


Specious facts. Also protected by the first amendment.

Just ask anyone involved in the rape hysteria.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 07, 2015 03:44 PM (659DL)

267 If the NFL *doesn't* drop the hammer on him now, then they will never be able to drop the hammer on anyone ever again.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 07, 2015 03:39 PM (kff5f)


You're funny, as in you are amusing and you are slightly touched in the head.* Consistency is comes with justice and we are not talking about justice here. We are talking about professional sports, a star player, and hundreds of millions of dollars in television advertising revenue.


*We still like you!!!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 07, 2015 03:44 PM (hLRSq)

268 Look, the guy's a cheater and deserves what's coming to him.

Posted by: Ray Lewis at May 07, 2015 03:45 PM (FcR7P)

269 The NFL would not be doing this if he were a white quarterback!

Posted by: joe Biden at May 07, 2015 03:45 PM (/eTPT)

270 nood

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 07, 2015 03:46 PM (X+nFp)

271 Kari: an example of why when people are asked "why don't you like the patriots?" "The fans" are probably in the top five answers.

FAHK YOU, YA JEALOUS HATUH!

Posted by: Die Hard Patriots Fan at May 07, 2015 03:46 PM (XlHZs)

272 Brady should start talking to the CFL teams. And let the NFL know he is.

You think his balls are small and soft in Foxboro? Wait until he hits the Canadian tundra. No freaking way he talks to the CFL.

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2015 03:46 PM (FcR7P)

273 We wouldn't be having this conversation if Tom Brady were white.


...
...
...

Wait a minute...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 07, 2015 03:46 PM (659DL)

274 Yes. Yes they were.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 07, 2015 03:47 PM (/HX7u)

275 McNally, the Deflator, was questioned initially, but then seems to have lawyered up:

"It did fault the Patriots for refusing to make McNally available for a follow-up interview with investigators."

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 03:47 PM (9BRsg)

276
Cheating in sports is irresponsible behavior, and those who participate in those activities should be suspended or released from the game for cause.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at May 07, 2015 03:47 PM (P330y)

277 I always thought Moochelle looked like a Klingon

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 07, 2015 03:48 PM (EYV/G)

278 Greatest coach/qb combo in NFL history? 12-4? Came back from 2 TDs down against the Ravens twice? Beat the colts 45-7? Came through against the defending champs in the superbowl? Must have been ball pressure.

Chirp away, boys, I thrive in iron-man 10 against 1 arguments, you're talking to a Moron reporting from Jamaica Plain, MA

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:48 PM (LFBrC)

279 nood


Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 07, 2015 03:46 PM (X+nFp)


Darn it! Just as I was getting ready to start trolling AllenG!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 07, 2015 03:48 PM (hLRSq)

280 It depends on what the meaning of 'cheat' is.

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:48 PM (/eTPT)

281 Ow my balls!

Posted by: Tom Brady at May 07, 2015 03:48 PM (yRwC8)

282 Posted by: Tiger Woods at May 07, 2015 03:47 PM (P330y)

You suck too.

Posted by: Golfman at May 07, 2015 03:49 PM (++uS+)

283 277 I always thought Moochelle looked like a Klingon

Cadets at Starfleet Academy had to study her Bird of Prey deployment strategies but as of now she's apparently fallen into disfavor with the Klingon High Command.

Posted by: Commenter, commenting that he is annoyed by comments at May 07, 2015 03:50 PM (Z3lhA)

284 FAHKN'-A, KARI!!!

FAHKIN'-A!!

Posted by: Die Hard Patriots Fan at May 07, 2015 03:50 PM (XlHZs)

285 So you're telling me there's a chance? I read ya.

Posted by: Jacksonville Jaguars, playing Patriots this year. at May 07, 2015 03:52 PM (1V9qu)

286 To paraphrase Teddy Bass in "Sexy Beast," "I'd hate that team, if I gave a fu*k."

Posted by: rrpjr at May 07, 2015 03:52 PM (s/yC1)

287 This all seems like BS.

First off, who the fuck cares?

Secondly, QBs should get whatever PSI they want in a ball anyway.

Thirdly, who the fuck cares?

Fourthly, of course Brady talks to the eq mgr after Brady and the eq mgr are the subject of nationwide rumors.

Fifthly, who the fuck cares?

Sixthly, there is still no direct evidence here that anyone did anything other than properly inflate the football. You could probably find similar messages for every NFL team.

And seventhly, who the fuck cares?

Posted by: TallDave at May 07, 2015 03:53 PM (/s1LA)

288 IT'S DIE HAHD, YA QUEEYAH

Posted by: kari at May 07, 2015 03:54 PM (LFBrC)

289 dum-dum-dum de-dum-dum
Under Pressured
Pressure pushing down on mePressing down on you no quarterback ask forUnder pressureThat burns a stadium downSplits a defense in twoPuts people in superbowlsIt's the terror of knowingWhat this game is aboutWatching some commissioner
Screaming get me out
Gisele takes me higherPressure on ballsjism on sheets

Posted by: Zombie Freddy Mercury at May 07, 2015 03:54 PM (/eTPT)

290
Giselle would be an amazing flotus
................................
and think of all the money we'd save buying wax strips instead of weedwacker parts and repair.

Posted by: wth at May 07, 2015 03:56 PM (wAQA5)

291 What the H8ers don't realize is that even a lowly lineman on the Raiders lives in a nice house, has a hot wife and unless he's a total imbecile, will never have to worry about money again.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 07, 2015 03:34 PM (0LHZx)

*********

I don't have a hot wife, you homophobic bigoted piece of garbage. I thought you were on my side!

Posted by: Michael Sam at May 07, 2015 04:01 PM (xkSSa)

292 I'm a diehard Seahawks fan, and I gotta say the deflated balls had no bearing on the games played....but that's not the point. If they cheated, and it appears they did, there needs to be punishment. Saying the game scores matter is like saying Simpson and Soofi didn't need to be pluggedbecause, hey, what's the harm,they were horrible shots anyway.

Posted by: Fish at May 07, 2015 04:02 PM (LZgaR)

293 Don't worry about the Pats. They are JV.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 07, 2015 04:02 PM (xkSSa)

294 Ace, I am surprised at you...you are letting your personal antipathy for the Pats cloud a very peculiar case. Of course I am letting my love of all things Patriots cloud mine, but I digress.

Your phrasing is incorrect. You state the investigation shows that the balls were deliberately deflated. That is not what the NFL said. They said it was "more probable than not" that they were deliberately inflated. That's like inferring that it is more probable than not that Roger Goodell molests collies. Who cares if it's true or not...put it out there and the media and ADHD culture will lap it up. I frankly am surprised that you would have no problems with this projection of guilt without absolute certainty.

I am troubled that such a powerful and influential organization such as the NFL would put out such a self-serving statement. And as for discipline...how can you suspend or punish based on a "probability?" That's not what our judicial code (I know, it's not the justice system, but my point remains) is based upon.

Now to be clear, I think Brady "more probably than not" had some scheme in place to deflate his game footballs (I refuse to play your double-entendre game). This is much like most QB's I would suspect, not that that makes it any more right. What is left out of the report I think is the fact only 4 colts FB's were tested vs 11 Patriot football. ALL were found deflated. I suppose I could say it is more probable than not that the climate had more than a little to do with it. It is more probable than not that Brady liked a little air let out but still withing legal limits, but the climate then caused deflation below the legal limit. Why were's all colts footballs tested? They say lack of time. I say complete incompetence by the NFL officials which was miraculously not mentioned anywhere in the report. The NFL acted upon a butthurt GM dropping a dime, screwed up the execution of the investigation, then leaked innuendo and rumor to smear an easy-target organization all in order to protect itself. My whole problem is that the FACT is the NFL was unable to prove conclusively that there was a "deflategate" yet still publishes this report.

All that being said, I enjoy the tears of all you Patriot haters. They taste sweet like honey to me.

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:04 PM (uyFMc)

295 278 Greatest coach/qb combo in NFL history? 12-4? Came back from 2 TDs down against the Ravens twice? Beat the colts 45-7? Came through against the defending champs in the superbowl? Must have been ball pressure.

Chirp away, boys, I thrive in iron-man 10 against 1 arguments, you're talking to a Moron reporting from Jamaica Plain, MA
Posted by: kari

hilarious. unlike real dynasties, PATS just barely squeak by in Super Bowls while cheating. coming back against the Ravens while cheating. but you blew out the Colts once while cheating so everybody is full of shit. hell, your state elected a Senator whose biggest accomplishment was cheating the affirmative action scheme. and she filled the seat of a Senator who got kicked out of Harvard for, wait for it, cheating. enjoy your legacy..of cheating. But hey, you finally won a Super Bowl other than by a field goal. But I wouldn't say you won because of the qb/coach combo unless you mean Wilson/Carroll.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:05 PM (n5fTN)

296 And the Colt are idiots for bringing it up, because they were doing better with the Pats using the more probably than not deflated footballs. When they were confiscated - the Pats steamrolled them. Oops.

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:05 PM (uyFMc)

297 Read the constitution, patriots fans are required to be butt hurt.

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Brady's acts are constitutionally protected. If he wants a premium paycheck and prime pussy he has to win and that's pursuing happiness.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 07, 2015 04:08 PM (lKSyl)

298 And the Colt are idiots for bringing it up, because they were doing better with the Pats using the more probably than not deflated footballs.
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The Colts notified the NFL the day before the game.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2015 04:08 PM (9BRsg)

299 @295 Yeah, because those SB wins and victories don't count unless you win by more than a point. didn't know they changed the rules of sport. Thanks, champ.

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:09 PM (uyFMc)

300 quit trying to compartmentalize Moongo. they've been deflating balls for years, not just against the Colts.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:09 PM (n5fTN)

301 count em Mongo. no one else does.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:11 PM (n5fTN)

302 Barry Bonds is the career home run leader. Except Henry Aaron is.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:12 PM (n5fTN)

303 @298 And that negates the sarcastic point how, exactly? The point remains that the NFL knew prior to the game, yet didn't check the balls until when? And then what did they do? Read and was reminded somewhere that most sports handle things right then and there. Hockey players are routinely called out for having an overcurved stick. The refs measure, if it's illegal, they get a penalty right then and there. George Brett famously had a HR disqualified for pine tar on the spot. Don't think he was suspended. The NFL blew it. They supposedly were tipped off yet did nothing. If balls were deflated, they should have been checked and someone (Belichick or Brady or someone) should have been disqualified from THAT DAY's CONTEST). I believe that is the rule in college if a kid, for example, is wearing extra long cleats on a muddy field.

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:13 PM (uyFMc)

304 Thanks, BA. Did not know you were the spokesman for everybody. I will count and savor them. Your tears taste sweet.

How do you KNOW they have done it for years? Honestly KNOW. Your belief of rumor and innuendo does not make it true. I am sure if I knew your team allegiance (though I couldn't care less) I could find some rumor that would sully their reputation (unless you are a JET fan, then that is sullying enough as it is)

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:16 PM (uyFMc)

305 I love ace but he needs to stick to what he knows and that is politics. His dislike of the Patriots comes through in his occasional posts on football.
Read the report in an unbiased fashion and you will come away with many unanswered questions regarding the NFL.

Posted by: Eric at May 07, 2015 04:18 PM (r0EVN)

306 Should've gone into baseball or golf. Then I wouldn't be having these problems.

Posted by: Belle Billichek at May 07, 2015 04:20 PM (xkSSa)

307 It is less probable than not that I will get any more work done today before clocking out.

Posted by: Mongo, Pawn in Game of Life at May 07, 2015 04:20 PM (uyFMc)

308 10
So "more probable than not" is the threshold for a year's suspension?

I rather doubt it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 07, 2015 03:05 PM (JtwS4)

No, it's lawyering up and refusing to cooperate with investigators that is, dummy

Posted by: Cory at May 07, 2015 04:21 PM (38KH6)

309 What I don't get is why teams are allowed to handle the balls, instead of some neutral 3rd party.

Posted by: Belle Billichek at May 07, 2015 04:22 PM (xkSSa)

310 I'd expected a better level of reporting from Ace. Guess I should have known better.

Posted by: Just A Guy at May 07, 2015 04:22 PM (CGzAz)

311 No, it's lawyering up and refusing to cooperate with investigators that is, dummy


He met, and talked, with them for a full day, dummy.

Posted by: Just A Guy at May 07, 2015 04:23 PM (CGzAz)

312 306 Should've gone into baseball or golf. Then I wouldn't be having these problems.
Posted by: Belle Billichek

greatest golfer, Bill Belichick or Kim Jong Il?

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:29 PM (n5fTN)

313 what's wrong Mongo? your butt hurt because no one thinks the Steelers or Cowboys or 49ers were dynastcheats?

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 04:36 PM (n5fTN)

314 At first I thought this was about implants.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at May 07, 2015 04:37 PM (AF8UR)

315 Belicheck your privilege.

Posted by: Tonya Hard-on at May 07, 2015 04:39 PM (xkSSa)

316 It's only cheating if you get caught.

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at May 07, 2015 04:53 PM (UzPAd)

317 Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Not because I give a damn about the Patriots, living in MA, but because a world where Brady will get a more strict punishment than traitors like Obama, the Clintons, Holder, and Jarrett? Not a world I want to be a part of.

We are an unserious people.

Posted by: acethepug at May 07, 2015 04:57 PM (WK825)

318 we've been unserious for a long time acethepug. Michael Irvin was held to a much higher standard than Bill Clinton at the same time. and if you're OK with the pats cheating, you're no different than the dems back then, iow GO TEAM! maybe the culture is different up north but here in Texas we think Lance Armstrong is a dick for cheating.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at May 07, 2015 05:17 PM (n5fTN)

319 Would a jury convict Brady? Who knows?


The NFL is such a hopeless mess of a bureaucracy under the lawyer-fool Goodell that it was inevitable that this situation would be handled badly.



Posted by: the roost aint what it used to be at May 07, 2015 05:17 PM (7GI9v)

320 When you get past the bullshit headlines, there is scant evidence that implicates Tom Brady of anything. The so called damning text messages are crass exchanges between two jerk patriot employees with delusions of grandeur and would prove nothing in a court room or anywhere else as it relates to Tom Brady.

I am 100% done with the mob of idiots routine this country now engages in on a weekly basis. The media blares something at us, provides basically no evidence, then the sheep all BAH BAH and run in whatever direction the media tells us too.

Today, they say we should hate Tom Brady and yell at him and hate him because of a few PSI, nevermind that the colts balls were found to be low in the second half, did Andrew Luck deflate them?

And no, I am not a patriots fan, far from it.

Their own report just basically says its what they think, they cant prove it. So we are supposed to punish someone based on what we think, and not the evidence!? WTF!?

Posted by: Dan at May 07, 2015 05:30 PM (COpZ4)

321 Gotta love the toadies defending Brady.

They claim no smoking gun means innocence. Sorry, weaselly little cheat freaks. Brady was the only one expressing concern about inflation, the only one to benefit, the only one to suddenly give swag to the perps (out of character for him to even notice lowly workers, swag never happens), the only one to lawyer up.

Yeah, he's innocent, you bottom dwellers.

And if Belichick, who is a notorious control freak who specifies the brands of toilet paper and soap and the thermostat setting for the visitors' locker room, didn't know what was going on with the footballs his team supplied, it is ONLY because he did not want to know.

As Taylor Swift might say, "Cheaters gonna cheat cheat cheat cheat cheat."

Posted by: Adjoran at May 07, 2015 06:17 PM (QIQ6j)

322 The only reason the Colts had the balls checked was that the Ravens had warned them that something was up.

Just vacate the 2015 NFL title and call it a good day.

Posted by: Advo at May 07, 2015 09:00 PM (7hUS8)

323 Brady should get jiggy with Michael Sam and the left, and the media will love him again. Sure, it might hurt, but eventually he will get over it.

Posted by: Thomasone at May 07, 2015 10:02 PM (NQ+CL)

324 Speaking of lies and cheating, Brady is the guy who dumped his pregnant girlfriend for another woman. And we're supposed to believe him when he says he didn't know about deflated footballs?

Posted by: Grandma at May 07, 2015 10:09 PM (L1Vw2)

325 163 If the NFL wants to have the punishment meet the crime, frankly they should be talking a lifetime ban and the results of the Superbowl formally stricken
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That, right there, is weapons grade stupidity. It pains me to imagine a person that would actually utter that opinion.

Posted by: deadrody at May 07, 2015 11:22 PM (W15tP)

326 For those of you saying the texts don't prove anything, I beg to differ. They're very strong evidence.

First off, they prove conclusively that a Patriots equipment manager talked with a locker-room attendant, who referred to himself as The Deflator in these conversations, about supplying said Deflator with a needle.

This much is indisputable. Not quite damning on its own, but fairly compelling.

Of course, this brings up the question... what kind of needle? "Make sure the pump is attached to the needle", says a disgruntled Deflator.

Now, what's the purpose of getting this needle (which likely attaches to a pump) to this Deflator? The texts don't come right out and specify, but the guy does call himself The Deflator. Also, when he's unhappy with the arrangement, how does he show it? By threatening to put more air into the balls. Why would The Deflator make a threat like that, unless it's the exact opposite of what he's actually expected to do with the needle?

The Deflator seems to be making this threat because he's displeased with somebody named Tom. As evidence, I submit The Deflator's tendency to sandwich each statement of his threats with "F*** Tom". Tom thus appears to be the chief beneficiary of, well, whatever it is a guy calling himself The Deflator is expected to do with a needle and some balls. The Deflator is demanding, indirectly, through the equipment manager, that Tom present him with a few extra gifts to make it up to him.

What do we know about this "Tom"? He has a passer rating to worry about, which means he's a quarterback. He can readily provide a signed ball (two, even!) that a Patriots locker room attendant would find desirable. And a Patriots equipment manager has the means to contact him.

Off the top of my head, I know of only one Tom who fits that description. Is it possible that there's another quarterback named Tom who can be contacted by this particular Patriots equipment manager? Sure, it's possible. Technically. But it's highly unlikely that a Patriots locker room attendant would be in a position to do much of anything for a quarterback named Tom whose last name is not Brady.

In later texts, the equipment manager tells The Deflator that he's talked to Tom and Tom has agreed to The Deflator's demands.

Oh, it's technically possible that the equipment manager cooked up the whole scheme himself, and never actually talked to Tom Brady about it, lied to The Deflator (who, as far as I've seen, never actually texted directly with Brady himself), and either forged the signatures on those balls or got Brady to sign them without telling him who they were for.

But Brady has given quite generous gifts to both of them in the past, and I doubt that he just did this out of the blue. Peyton Manning or Tim Tebow or Kurt Warner, I could see doing that. Tom Brady, not so much. By the way, this isn't a knock against Brady; he's just not one of those super-nice types. I grew up watching John Elway, and he never struck me as a really nice guy, either.

And even if he wasn't directly involved, for Brady to be truly innocent here, he would've had to fail to notice that every time he picked up a ball it was soft and squishy, just like he likes them. He has said that he can feel subtle differences in ball pressure, and if there's anyone I would expect to be telling the truth about something like that, it'd be a quarterback of Brady's caliber.

If he noticed that every ball he touched was underinflated just to his liking, and never said anything about it, he becomes complicit in the cheating. And for him not to notice, he'd have to have been lying when he said he can tell.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 07, 2015 11:32 PM (a5m3K)

327 Indeed! It was such a close game where a mediocre quarterback fronted such an unaccomplished team. They must have cheated to win.

Everyone get over your sweet selves already.

Posted by: Mommacita at May 11, 2015 03:21 PM (58q1C)

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