Obama Has Given Up On Guaranteeing Free Traverse of the Seas

The United States has enforced the free transit across the seas for centuries.

Iran is now taking piratical prizes; and Obama, you will not be surprised to hear, is okay with that.

The seizing of the Maersk Tigris wasn't just an act of piracy; it was a declaration of a new order on the seas, and Obama has, as usual, bowed to a foreign potentate.

Since World War II, the American Navy has been the guarantor of freedom of the seas for all nations and commerce. The U.S. Navy prides itself upon its annual forays into disputed waters to demonstrate that seizing ships like the Tigris means engaging American warships. But neither the White House nor the Navy declared that Tuesday’s seizure violated that basic norm. Instead, the Iranian foreign minister brazenly invoked respect for freedom of navigation. Iran flexed its muscles and America did nothing. Translation: The U.S. is a paper tiger, and Iran will seize other ships as it pleases. When a timorous America imposes no penalty for state piracy, such actions are sure to repeat. Imagine how that affects the calculus of a hundred nations and thousands of ship owners.

[T]he seizure illustrated that Mr. Obama is determined to reach a nuclear deal with Iran, regardless of what actions Iran takes.... [T[he seizure was not an accident; it was ordered by the same government with whom Mr. Obama is determined to sign a nuclear agreement. Mr. Obama could suspend negotiations, with sanctions in place, until the Tigris is released. But he will not.

I lost track of this story myself; I did not know that Iran was keeping its war booty.

A source (a French diplomat, I think) had earlier said that Obama Administration was acting as the mouthpiece for the mullahs at the nuke talks. Even here, our own government flacks on Iran's behalf, insisting that this ship was seized by the Republican Guards without the blessing of the government.

But if so-- why do they still keep it? How long does it take to communicate an order to the Guards?

So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us.

Posted by: Ace at 12:50 PM




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1 I'm wondering if Obama would be okay with Americans going over there and engaging in piracy against the Iranians?

The UK rose on Pirate's sails...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 01, 2015 12:47 PM (/4AZU)

2 This is My shocked face...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 01, 2015 12:48 PM (Bn6aD)

3 I'd hope for someone to issue letters of marque, but honestly, that might cut into Obumble's golf game.

Posted by: Toastrider at May 01, 2015 12:49 PM (w0vrv)

4 Letters of Marque. Privateers.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 01, 2015 12:49 PM (V70Uh)

5 So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a
fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us.



Yep. When's my tee time?

Posted by: Barry, Prince of the Links at May 01, 2015 12:49 PM (bynk/)

6 Loser.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at May 01, 2015 12:50 PM (8ZskC)

7 Well... Hm.

Does this mean we can cut out multi billion dollar a year navy budget then?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 12:51 PM (AkOaV)

8 Great Satan, War mongering Empire, etc... Yeah, remember all that shie you liked to spout? Well just be kind to the Somali pirates (now rebased in Crete, Malta and the Phaeroes) Fancy, and they'll be kind to you.

Posted by: PaxAmericana now haz 20% moar kissMyASS at May 01, 2015 12:51 PM (JOFI1)

9 What the fuck is all this talk of Iran and shit? Didn't you hear a rapist was selected #1 by an NFL team and 2 men are going to beat the shit out of each other tomorrow in Las Vegas?

#Priorities

Posted by: Average American at May 01, 2015 12:52 PM (0LHZx)

10 High horse, Crusades and shit like that, bitchez.

Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at May 01, 2015 12:52 PM (8ZskC)

11 Unfortunately this has been going on longer than Obama. Witness the shenanigans going on off the coast of Somalia.

Apparently nothing can be done because something something black people.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 01, 2015 12:52 PM (oFCZn)

12 He loves moose limbs and moose cocks. He hates America. Marriage made in Paradise.

Also, for lunch, bacon and egg sandwiches with a bit of cheese and green onion on toasted swedish rye, I've got plenty, ya'll drop by...

Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 12:52 PM (ASn1R)

13 Don't be getting up on your high horse because the Crusades! The Inquisition! Slavery!


Posted by: Barack O'Shitstain at May 01, 2015 12:53 PM (V70Uh)

14
When a timorous America imposes no penalty for state piracy, such actions are sure to repeat. Imagine how that affects the calculus of a hundred nations and thousands of ship owners.

This is the lasting damage. We can theoretically* undo his legislative and executive damage when he's out of office, but reducing the credibility of American force can not be undone by passing a new law.

I've been educating No. 2 Son on Baroness Thatcher. It will take someone of that magnitude to restore our standing.


*(yeah, I know).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 12:53 PM (JtwS4)

15 Obama wants to return to his roots where he can be a part time paid lecturer on US Constitutional Law, and organize local communities into self sufficient nation states that can ignore federal law they don't like.

He doesn't care about US foreign policy.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 12:53 PM (W54dV)

16 Freedom Of The Seas was a concept created by dead white males and used prop up the racist United States world dominance. It has no place in the new community of nations.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at May 01, 2015 12:53 PM (1BQGO)

17 Some demoncrap hack was on cnn (i think) telling the news host that the republican guard probably went rogue and took the ship on their own.

Seriously... he said that...

And the newsbabe never batted an eye.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (VNgld)

18 In the dank recesses of an Executive Office Building cave, a satisfied grin spreads across rodent-like features.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (8ZskC)

19 He Stands with Islam.

Posted by: Garrett at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (/ODk4)

20 I still get my EBT and SNAP money this month, right? Then what the fuck do I care about Eye-Ran.

Posted by: Average American at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (0LHZx)

21 Does Iran realize one of the countries it threatens with its attempt at hegemony is the PRC?

But yeah, Gaylord has declared Open Season. Such as this country has not seen since the Marines landed at Tripoli to sort out the Bey's tenancies to seize US merchant ships.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (CwVOr)

22 So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us.

-----

It doesn't have to be. I mean I guess maybe for another 20 months - but we can change it. We can go back to the old way of doing business.

Posted by: SH at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (gmeXX)

23 Freedom Of The Seas was a concept created by dead white males and used
prop up the racist United States world dominance. It has no place in the
new community of nations.


And pedo-Mo didn't have it, so no one should have it.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (/kI1Q)

24 17 Some demoncrap hack was on cnn (i think) telling the news host that the republican guard probably went rogue and took the ship on their own.

Seriously... he said that...

And the newsbabe never batted an eye.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (VNgld)

_________

It was the Tea Party faction of the Republican Guard.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 01, 2015 12:55 PM (0LHZx)

25 I'm flummoxed and befuddled!

*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at May 01, 2015 12:55 PM (8ZskC)

26 The hell with the lock and off with the frock.

Posted by: Barnacle Barack the Sailor at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (Dwehj)

27 I thought the Treaty of Ghent rendered Letters of Marque and Reprisal verbotten.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (CwVOr)

28 The basic assumption now has to be that Obama will act against the interests of stability. His basic question is not, "What action will maintain order and promote peace and prosperity?" His basic question is "What can I do to shake things up?"

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (RD7QR)

29 Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Get Letters of Marque and this blog will be rich, I tell ye true!

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (uPxUo)

30 I'll bet Ace is choking on that Reichstag smoke how.

Posted by: maddogg at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (xWW96)

31 Who are we to say that people can't be pirates?

Oh, and you know who enjoyed Freedom of the Seas? Slave ships.

So, really, outmoded concepts.

Posted by: blaster at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (lSRCE)

32 Obama is a muzzie and a treasonous B******. Everything he does is designed to hurt the west, Christians, and the US in particular.


But impeachment is off the table. There is only one peaceful solution left, Art V convention.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (wlDny)

33 Look over there! Cops indicted in Freddy Gary death.

Squirrel!

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (BXVvA)

34 The United States Navy - a force for impotence in the world.

Join today!

Posted by: United States Navy at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (PtTYB)

35 Liberal voters love it!

Posted by: Dan at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (COpZ4)

36 "Centuries"?



Might wanna change that to decades.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (xSCb6)

37 Uncle Joe gave me one of these nifty eye patches. Arrrrgh!

Posted by: Barnacle Barack the Sailor at May 01, 2015 12:57 PM (Dwehj)

38 New US Nave motto: If yer queer, we need you here.

Posted by: maddogg at May 01, 2015 12:58 PM (xWW96)

39 You know who enjoys Freedom of Navigation?

Consumer societies. You will pay for this with every dollar you spend.

Posted by: Fringe at May 01, 2015 12:58 PM (Stqj5)

40 Burn the Witch it is centuries. "To the shores of Tripoli"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 12:58 PM (CwVOr)

41 Rum, Sodomy, and the Hashtag!

Posted by: Winston Churchill at May 01, 2015 12:58 PM (JtwS4)

42 It doesn't have to be. I mean I guess maybe for another 20 months - but we can change it. We can go back to the old way of doing business.
Posted by: SH at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (gmeXX)

Not so sure. A sufficiently depraved president can do immeasurable damage in 18 months.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 12:58 PM (RD7QR)

43 ***"So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a
fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us."****



Time for the obligatory:



How would a secret muslim accomplish this differently?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (xSCb6)

44 27 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 12:56 PM (CwVOr)

yeah and?

It's a brave new old world Anna...

if the Iranians get to play "anything goes" why don't other folk?

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (/4AZU)

45 Iran is also imprisoning a Washington Post reporter, probably should consider anything they write about the Iran Deal as influenced. Rather ironic because the Washington Post is the platform Ann Applebaum used to insist to America that Iran was moderating.

offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?

Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (RJMhd)

46 Fundamentally. Transformed.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (7ObY1)

47 So, if the Teaparty invaded Iran, would da Zero send troops to aid the Muzzie Mad men?

Posted by: maddogg at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (xWW96)

48 Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (RJMhd)
denmark.

but uh, its leased through some shady shit to a company in the Philippines i think.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (AkOaV)

49 Well, after reading the linked article, I don't see why there is all this outrage. Iran had an economic dispute and was just practicing the same method the United States uses to fight drug traffickers; seize the money, and the car on suspicion. No need to waste time going to court.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (W54dV)

50 Can we get an emergency airdrop of feck over DC, please?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (h4vJk)

51 >>offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?


We do, running dog of the Great Satan.

Posted by: Ayatollah of Rock n' Rolla at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (PtTYB)

52 Sven, I point this out because this administration will imprison anyone who does go piratical. Not out of any love of the law but to keep the Mad Mullahs pleased in a vain attempt to get some love from them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (CwVOr)

53 offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?
Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (RJMhd)

Danes.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (RD7QR)

54 America's being governed by people who hate America and everything it stands for. No further explanation needed.

Posted by: Pyrocles at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (fVOPU)

55 offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?


It's a Danish Company.

I do a lot of biz with them.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (7ObY1)

56
offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?

Leased by a German shipping company. Captain and mates are eastern European, crew is Asian.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (JtwS4)

57
Let the pirates come to Baltimore...arghhhh!

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (iQIUe)

58 Part of the problem was evident rightee here in these comments on the first thread on this topic. Lots of hair-splitting and chin-stroking about fine details of the Iranian action (most of it illiterate in the sense that freedom of navigation, esp. in Hormuz, has and must be enforced somewhat aggressively, given the geography, the players, and the stakes).

The observation that this is a fundamentally unserious country applies not just to the vast swathes of the sports- or pop-culture addled, or the shallow stupid NPR types who gaves us the current regime and situation, but to those who show more sense as well. The lack of will - and of the savvy that will *is* the key ingredient - was evident from 2005 on. Not just in society, and the political class (the wretched begging of McConnell for some sort of political relief because whaaaa Iraq was haaaard and stuff), but in the brass (esp. the Army) as well.

Fine to focus on the histrionically absurd, unfit, alien sorts like the president and his band of Beltway featherweights. But the rot, and the irreversible change (don't have a word for the new America, really), extend far far beyond the Beltway.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2015 01:02 PM (afQnV)

59 Another Maersk ship was the victim of pirates.

Has anyone asked Captain Philips on this latest incident?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:02 PM (CwVOr)

60 The administration takes a harsher stance on enforcing cake baking for same-sex marriages than international piracy.

Awesome.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2015 01:02 PM (2TN4k)

61 52 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (CwVOr)

Correct, Americans are second class citizens to non-citizens in their own nation, we are third class citizens in the world behind the Chinese and the Muslims...

but Ogabe is gonna cleanse us soon....ethnically.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 01, 2015 01:02 PM (/4AZU)

62 if the Iranians get to play "anything goes" why don't other folk?


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 01, 2015 12:59 PM (/4AZU)

Multi-cultural differences let them do certain things as part and parcel of their noble centuries old society that we, as a recent upstart imperialist nation, simply cannot even think about doing, because racist...

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (ftVQq)

63
27
Treaties are living, breathing documents and must be interpreted to conform to the present day. Like our Constitution.
Hey, great name for a U.S. privateer. Any Aegis cruisers on the disposal lists?

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (uPxUo)

64 7
Does this mean we can cut out multi billion dollar a year navy budget then?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 12:51 PM (AkOaV)



More money for reparations, bitchez!

Posted by: B. HUSSEIN O. at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (zoehZ)

65 The administration takes a harsher action on Nevada cattle ranchers for past due grazing feesthan international piracy. Double awesome.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)

66 Pirates? Pittsburgh, right?

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (YFFpo)

67 Who bitch-ass Preezy this is?

Posted by: Eli Cash at May 01, 2015 01:03 PM (a+WIL)

68 You guys must have thought that I was joking about that fundamental transformation thing.

Posted by: Prince Humperdink at May 01, 2015 01:04 PM (dqxMS)

69 " offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk? "

define 'owns', then when you lawyers have hashed that out to a satisfactory conclusion then define 'liability'.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:04 PM (W54dV)

70 We take ship because of Crusades, yes?

Your President Man says is OK.

You still buy my oil?

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah at May 01, 2015 01:04 PM (7ObY1)

71 Reggie and I had a sword fight on the poop deck.

Posted by: Barnacle Barack the Sailor at May 01, 2015 01:04 PM (Dwehj)

72 ***"Burn the Witch it is centuries. "To the shores of Tripoli""***



The first line of the Marine's Hymn is hardly evidence that the US was the chief enforcer of trade lane security in the Mediterranean at the beginning of the 1800s, let alone the all encompassing "the seas".

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 01, 2015 01:04 PM (xSCb6)

73 Thanks Bandersnatch.

Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 01:05 PM (RJMhd)

74 @1 Sven,

Count me and the crew in on ye olde Pirate thing if it takes off.

Arggh, pieces of dinars I says.

Posted by: Capt. Walking Dude at May 01, 2015 01:06 PM (cCxiu)

75 Second look at Jimmah Carter?

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at May 01, 2015 01:06 PM (xQX/f)

76 54 America's being governed by people who hate America and everything it stands for. No further explanation needed.

Posted by: Pyrocles at May 01, 2015 01:01 PM (fVOPU)



Not governed. Ruled.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2015 01:06 PM (zoehZ)

77 I forgot...Ace is a pirate.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:06 PM (iQIUe)

78 As Ace so rightfully quotes:
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats" H.L. Mencken
(although, black flags are pretty racist)

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at May 01, 2015 01:07 PM (uJK1E)

79 Alfred Thayer Mahan is spinning in his grave.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2015 01:07 PM (nL0sw)

80 Wonder what would he do if Congress declared war on Iran?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (jsWA8)

81 Burn the Witch, I guess my view is a bit more expansive. In that I view a US frigate like USS Essex showing up off the Bey's harbor to ensure US flagged ships are safe from depredations also ensures the safety of other countries' ships. It may not be the plan but it has that effect.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (CwVOr)

82 Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2015 01:02 PM (afQnV)

Yes, the really scary part is that day after day we are seeing how deep the structural rot is a every level from the president, senior civilian AND military leaders, both Houses of Congress, many governors and state legislatures, and worst of all down to a seeming majority of the voting population (even correcting for blatant widespread voter fraud and cheating).

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (ftVQq)

83 74 Posted by: Capt. Walking Dude at May 01, 2015 01:06 PM (cCxiu)

Oh I'm thinking there are BIG opportunities in raiding Venezuela...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (/4AZU)

84 I meant to write, "Not" the Influence of Sea Power upon History. Honest.

Posted by: zombie Alfred Thayer Mahan at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (kivUY)

85 The administration takes a harsher action on Catholic nuns who don't want to include abortifecients in their health coverage than international piracy.

Priorities!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (2TN4k)

86 offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?



Maersk Group is Danish. And there are a shit ton of Maersk ships.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (nL0sw)

87 Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:00 PM (W54dV)

Yep, which is why I've been saying we can't over react too much and President Choom may have made the right move here by not sending in the USN.

Because *we* do this shit ALL THE TIME.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (AkOaV)

88 Question: Are the halls of Montezuma a bit further north than when the hymn was originally penned?

Say LA?

As in Azet(LA)n?


Posted by: Joe Mama at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (BXVvA)

89 I'm thinking of making Marie Hork walk the plank.

Posted by: Barnacle Barack the Sailor at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (Dwehj)

90 Shit Lol I frickin missed a lot of responses.

Stuck on my iPhone and it gives you tunnel vision or something.

Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 01:10 PM (RJMhd)

91 The Maersk Tigris was not a Maersk Line ship, it was a rental.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:10 PM (jsWA8)

92
85 The administration takes a harsher action on Catholic nuns who don't want to include abortifecients in their health coverage than international piracy. Priorities!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2015 01:09 PM (2TN4k)


Damn straight. Those God loving nuns deserve it! Iran's not a threat at all.

Posted by: moo moo at May 01, 2015 01:10 PM (zt+N6)

93 insisting that this ship was seized by the Republican Guards without the blessing of the government.
==
WTF?

So we're supposed to believe that the Iranian Revolutionary Republican Guard. . .which acts as the private army for the Iranian mullahs and is supposed to "protect the revolution" has suddenly "gone rogue"?

If that WERE the case (and it transparently isn't), that would be a major internal coup.


Posted by: looking closely at May 01, 2015 01:11 PM (ji45d)

94 >> I forgot...Ace is a pirate.


Well. A type of pirate.

Posted by: Garrett at May 01, 2015 01:11 PM (/ODk4)

95 I forgot...Ace is a pirate. In chaps?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:11 PM (jsWA8)

96 It's hard to pilot a ship that lists so far to port.

Posted by: Barnacle Barack the Sailor at May 01, 2015 01:12 PM (Dwehj)

97 Are they really pirates? I mean, do they have parrots on their shoulders?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2015 01:12 PM (W5DcG)

98 Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:10 PM (jsWA

Yeah, the article I read made the ownership seem... murky.

Lots of companies in multiple countries involved, leasing and (another term for leasing I'd never heard of and had to look up), flying a flag of convenience, crew from all over the world...

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:13 PM (AkOaV)

99 DO Give Up The Ship!

Posted by: zombie commodore perry at May 01, 2015 01:13 PM (kivUY)

100 80 Wonder what would he do if Congress declared war on Iran?
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (jsWA

Is this your way of pointing out that we have a weak-knee'd congress that would never do such a thing? If so, props to you.

If they had any stones whatsoever, they would do exactly this kind of thing to stop TFG from running America into the ground. But they don't. So they won't.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:13 PM (sPp6M)

101 Pirates of the Saskatchewan anyone?

https://youtu.be/8FbV4zT_ZTY

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:13 PM (CwVOr)

102 What's funny about this Iran deal is Obama is essentially handcuffing the US and throwing us in the back of an Iranian Transport Van for a rough ride.

All because, Daddy Issues.

Posted by: Garrett at May 01, 2015 01:14 PM (/ODk4)

103 So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us.

And polling shows a majority of millenials want the Democrats to stay in the White House. Doesn't that make you feel sunshiny and content?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 01, 2015 01:15 PM (zF6Iw)

104 Makes sense.

Posted by: Ssssssssssss at May 01, 2015 01:15 PM (hHFOx)

105 95 I forgot...Ace is a pirate. In chaps?
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:11 PM (jsWA


Only if they are assless ones.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:15 PM (iQIUe)

106 "Wonder what would he do if Congress declared war on Iran? "

We already know what Obama would do. Congress has enacted economic sanctions on Iran, and Obama is going to lift those sanctions, enacted by legislation, with a wave of his imperial hand and his signature on an agreement.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:15 PM (W54dV)

107 What does Mrs. Clinton have to say about all of this? Is she preparing a vacuous 'Tweet' which will talk about sailboats but nothing about piracy

Posted by: Alwyr at May 01, 2015 01:16 PM (V0j3u)

108 A wee bit OT, but I just got a call that my sister-in-law, for whom I am the only surviving relative, has just had a second heart attack in six months and is being transported to one of the medical "centers" 90 miles away from her regional hospital (which was pretty much gutted by O'care). She sounded pretty upbeat, but I do not think this is a good situation.

SO, any prayers would be much appreciated and I offer my thanks in advance since I now have no idea what my schedule or internet access will be for the near future.

Hrothgar

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2015 01:16 PM (ftVQq)

109 "So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us." And our Republican Congress is OK with that. Superduper.

Posted by: Bud Norton at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (6cOMd)

110 Nuke capable Russian bombers flying over Alaska as well.

Yay smaht pawah!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (fWAjv)

111
I'm surprised that Ace hasnt ordered us ALL to wear assless chaps.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (iQIUe)

112
The Maersk Tigris was not a Maersk Line ship, it was a rental.

The lessor is Rickmers ShipManagement of Hamburg, Germany.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (JtwS4)

113 If they had any stones whatsoever, they would do exactly this kind of thing to stop TFG from running America into the ground. But they don't. So they won't.

Posted by: Sambo


I don't think it's about 'stones' any more.

It is a problem of corruption.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (KhFZp)

114 You know, I am more and more tempted to just put my family on a sailing yacht, grab some fishing gear, and go make our life on the high seas. If we were well armed, I think we could make it for quite a long time. I also would need to acquire some basic medical knowledge, 'cause no doctors out there...

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (sPp6M)

115 >>97 Are they really pirates? I mean, do they have parrots on their shoulders?

No. They do have goats on their dicks though.

Posted by: Aviator at May 01, 2015 01:18 PM (NsEJ4)

116 It's a good thing that Obama loves the USA and western civilization. Could you imagine what would be going on if he hated them?

My OH my.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 01, 2015 01:18 PM (TV9BR)

117
I'm surprised that Ace hasnt ordered us ALL to wear assless chaps.

That's too close to a pants requirement. The Horde will not abide it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:19 PM (JtwS4)

118 "21
Does Iran realize one of the countries it threatens with its attempt at hegemony is the PRC?

But
yeah, Gaylord has declared Open Season. Such as this country has not
seen since the Marines landed at Tripoli to sort out the Bey's tenancies
to seize US merchant ships.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 12:54 PM (CwVOr)"

You don't realize that President Supergenius is playing three dimensional chess here with moves so far ahead that it would dazzle you if you could comprehend it.

First off, while it will adversely affect China, massively increased piracy would raise the cost of importing goods from China and lead directly to an upsurge in manufacturing in the United States. Manufacturing jobs used to be the backbone of the union movement and can be again. Those manufacturing jobs will be filled by all the illegal aliens who have come over the border within the last few years. Instead of working in the new manufacturing jobs, blacks will continue to buy and sell drugs, go to prison, collect welfare and vote Democrat. Hey, if a system works you don't want to screw around with it.

There will still be a need for transportation but with ship transport made too expensive by piracy, air transportation will become much more common. Since Aircraft manufacture is one of the few areas in which American manufacturing is still doing well and since aircraft manufacture is heavily unionized by militantly left wing unions, this is also a good thing.

Finally, the US Navy will protect US flagged vessels. Once again, heavily unionized.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:19 PM (KDbAT)

119 Sambo, I do boat calls...

Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 01:19 PM (ASn1R)

120 You do realize that ship was giving some poor drug dealer a rough ride, right? The brave Iranians should have killed everyone on board instead of just looting their stuff!

Posted by: Drew-um at May 01, 2015 01:20 PM (1OQmQ)

121 Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (KhFZp)

Well, yes. Sure. A big part of corruption can be a fear of standing up and doing what is right. It makes it easier to slide down that trail when the skids are greased with money and power. But I will happily agree to corruption as being the root cause.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:20 PM (sPp6M)

122 >>>offhand does anyone know what country owns the Maersk?
<<<

I'm imagining the ship was loaded with CVS merchandise.

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2015 01:20 PM (UzPAd)

123 Obnoxious, that silver lining you looking at? It can only be viewed by an electron microscope.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:21 PM (CwVOr)

124 119 Sambo, I do boat calls...
Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 01:19 PM (ASn1R)

Apparently I will also need some training on sailing lingo, because I don't know what that is.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:21 PM (sPp6M)

125 >>119 Sambo, I do boat calls...

I do booty calls.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2015 01:21 PM (NsEJ4)

126 Not only is TFG handcufing the US now, he trying to extend the deal into the next Presidents term.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (jsWA8)

127 The U.S. is a paper tiger
____________________________

With Obama as president, it's not even that. Just a pussy. Like Obama. I would say a domestic pussy, but the Indonesian-bred, faux-Kenyan asshole is not domestic. Not to the U.S. anyway.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (lmdHn)

128 It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (zRby/)

129 "114
You know, I am more and more tempted to just put my family on a sailing
yacht, grab some fishing gear, and go make our life on the high seas. If
we were well armed, I think we could make it for quite a long time. I
also would need to acquire some basic medical knowledge, 'cause no
doctors out there...

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:17 PM (sPp6M)"

There are a number of disused drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. I wonder what is their condition, legal status and suitability?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (KDbAT)

130 >>Not only is TFG handcufing the US now, he trying to extend the deal into the next Presidents term.

When Obama said he was going to fundamentally change America he wasn't kidding.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (g1DWB)

131 What investments have Soros and Buffett made that will now appreciate based on our Low Information President's failure to do a damned thing?

By asking this question, am I committing the rightwing equivalent of "Look over there--it's the Koch Brothers!"

Posted by: Furious George at May 01, 2015 01:23 PM (UlJ3l)

132 I'm sensing an economic opportunity here. We're gonna need more goats. So you goat herders will make money if you expand your operation. Look at how well the alpaca herders have done selling alpacas to peruvian immigrants and with the sudden and unexpected increase in asylum seekers from the middle east, profits will be huge.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:24 PM (W54dV)

133 Apparently I will also need some training on sailing lingo, because I don't know what that is.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:21 PM (sPp6M)

Think of a doc making house calls.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:24 PM (fWAjv)

134 128 It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (zRby/)

I think this is an active part of the progressive strategy. It's exactly this.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:24 PM (sPp6M)

135 Hey Marco; are you going to leave THIS policy in effect if you become President?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM (zRby/)

136 Remember all those wild lunatic right wing internet memes about how bad a far left president like Obama would be?

Those are all looking pretty tame now aren't they?

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM (TV9BR)

137 Damn, this Baltimore thing is going to be a high tech lynching. Mayor is telling everyone that Freddie Gray, his family and the citizens of Baltimore will get justice during a long tirade on police racism and violence.

She neglected to say whether or not the officers would get justice.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM (g1DWB)

138 Confused - the news was reporting this morning that the US Navy will be escorting US-flagged ships through the Straits.

So to be clear - the Navy is only guaranteeing US flagged ships, not ships in general? Or does the news have it wrong?

Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM (PFy0L)

139 Think of a doc making house calls.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:24 PM (fWAjv)

Oh. Derp.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:26 PM (sPp6M)

140 128 It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That
_____________________

Shut up with your stupid Tea Party talk about how important the Constitution is!

Posted by: McConnell and Boehner at May 01, 2015 01:26 PM (UlJ3l)

141 Yep the US Navy will escort US flagged merchant vessels. Which as a percentage of the global maritime trade, due to unions, is miniscule. Tis another fig leaf of appearing to do something by President Present.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (CwVOr)

142 >>What investments have Soros and Buffett made that will now appreciate based on our Low Information President's failure to do a damned thing?

Last fall, Soros took a very large position in one of the larger uranium miners in the world. It opened a lot of eyes at the time because the stock had been lagging.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (g1DWB)

143
128 It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That

You can't impeach someone while sucking their cokc.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (jsWA8)

144 I won't defend his reasoning and there should be some price to pay, but the question is "what is that price?.

The U.S. Navy is now escorting most ships under U.S. flag through the straits. Which is nice, but that's the reason the ICRG picked a ship under American protectorate, not flag. That would be a direct act of war and has been for centuries.

The bottom line is Obama is so desperate for a deal that any response won't be punitive. It's also laughable they've framed this as factions within the IRG that don't want a deal acted independently.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (GGCsk)

145
So to be clear - the Navy is only guaranteeing US flagged ships, not ships in general? Or does the news have it wrong?

Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM (PFy0L)

US and British flagged ships. Not sure about the others.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (fWAjv)

146
To be expected when you put a Democrat or Demo Lite into the highest office of the land.

In other good news, Larry Flynt has come out in support of Hillary. From one hustler to another.

Posted by: Cheri at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (oiNtH)

147
So to be clear - the Navy is only guaranteeing US flagged ships, not ships in general? Or does the news have it wrong?

Correct. The four which received Navy escort yesterday were US ships and all were military supplies.

http://bit.ly/1bm7qqB

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (JtwS4)

148 Whatever, I've given up caring about most things politically related because the people with the actual power, position and authority to do anything about don't seem to give a shit.

The only thing I wish for is that this asshole doesn't get another shot at a SCOTUS nomination or god forbid two.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (M+ldm)

149 Bambi as much reflects a degraded America as he is degrading it, as much symptom as cause - probably *more* symptom than cause.

That there has been no effective institutional or political (electoral) push-back on his increasingly lawless, reckless, and disastrous behavior is just one reason to think this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (afQnV)

150 There are a number of disused drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. I wonder what is their condition, legal status and suitability?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (KDbAT)

There is an idea. And a lot of fish make their homes around the legs of those things, so we would never run out of food.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (sPp6M)

151
So, if the mullahs raid AoShq, we're screwed?

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (iQIUe)

152 >>She neglected to say whether or not the officers would get justice.



No Roger,
No Re-Run,
No Justice!

Posted by: Garrett at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (/ODk4)

153 >>> It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.<<<

If congress had been listening to me, they'd have impeached him 9 months into his first stint. Like a late-term fetus with his brain sucked out.

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (UzPAd)

154 Number of US Flagged ships in '55 - over a thousand.
Today, less than two hundred.

http://www.americanmaritime.org/merchant/

Number of US flagged ships in the middle east, take a guess?

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:29 PM (W54dV)

155
So, if the mullahs raid AoShq, we're screwed?

Nah. Most of the Horde remember where their personal canoe accidents happened and where to retrieve stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:29 PM (JtwS4)

156 In other good news, Larry Flynt has come out in support of Hillary. From one hustler to another.
Posted by: Cheri

In a sane world, one might wonder how this wouldn't hamstring a hack pushing a 'war on women'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 01, 2015 01:29 PM (Spluw)

157 Prayers sent hrothgar

Posted by: ginaswo at May 01, 2015 01:29 PM (2EgyQ)

158 Since our President takes his orders from Iran's high level mole in DC, the ferrettlike Valerie Jarrett, it is no surprise that Iran gets what it wants from the Indonesian Usurper.

Meanwhile the rest of us need to shut up and check our privilege because of the Crusades and shit.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 01, 2015 01:30 PM (0kPjF)

159 ***"Burn the Witch, I guess my view is a bit more expansive. In that I view a US frigate like USS Essex
showing up off the Bey's harbor to ensure US flagged ships are safe
from depredations also ensures the safety of other countries' ships. It
may not be the plan but it has that effect."***


In the expansive view, US naval power was extremely limited as the world's sea trade was mainly protected by the European powers for decades even after the Barbary problem. Hell, the War of 1812 demonstrated that.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 01, 2015 01:30 PM (xSCb6)

160
Someone shd photoshop the clinton crime family holding those trash cans the BGI uses to collect loot from those stupid enough to give it to them.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:31 PM (iQIUe)

161 I heard a list of the cop's names read aloud on the radio, I believe one was "Alicia", so militant thug chick cops are now SJW targets. Gonna make the Sisterhood angry.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2015 01:31 PM (2cS/G)

162 He shelters the corrupt land pirates; why not the sea ones too? Equality!

Posted by: LizLem at May 01, 2015 01:31 PM (yRwC8)

163 Forget the oil platforms, just a bit farther afield

http://islandsofpuertorico.com/isla-de-mona/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:32 PM (CwVOr)

164 >>It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him

He was daring Congress years ago. Now that he's gotten away with so much, and tools like Boehner flat-out state impeachment is iff the table, Obama's going big. Dude's got a pen and a phone. Gonna change the world.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2015 01:32 PM (2TN4k)

165 No Rum,
No Peace!
Arrrggghhh!

Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 01:33 PM (ASn1R)

166 "So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us."

And most of our 'free' press runs 24/7 interference on people learning the facts by flooding the airwaves and most of their pages with 'look squirrel' stories.

Sorry I am posting and running, work calls, but I had to vent this thought anyway.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2015 01:33 PM (7w/kf)

167 Prayers for your sister-in-law, Hrothgar and for you too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 01:34 PM (DXzRD)

168 So Butt Pirates are back in the game?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2015 01:34 PM (zRby/)

169 US Navy soon to be as worthless as the Royal Navy. And from the Pentagon we hear....crickets.

The leadership of all US institutions is in massive, across the board failure. Compare this pack of pussies to the people who occupied the same positions only 30 years ago.

Posted by: bystander at May 01, 2015 01:34 PM (hKyl0)

170 The reach of the US Navy per the War of 1812 was limited for a simple reason. Congress did not want a Navy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:34 PM (CwVOr)

171 Butt piracy?.....legal AND mandatory.

Posted by: Obama at May 01, 2015 01:35 PM (wUFzV)

172 Someone shd photoshop the clinton crime family holding those trash cans the BGI uses to collect loot from those stupid enough to give it to them.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:31 PM (iQIUe)




Someone should photoshop Hillary!'s head onto this pic (SFW): http://tinyurl.com/o3q6bfp

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2015 01:35 PM (nL0sw)

173
Reagan has to be spinning in his grave. I'll be long dead before this country is even partially restored to its greatness.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 01:35 PM (iQIUe)

174 Anyway back to the writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (CwVOr)

175 No worries. Boehner has us covered.

Posted by: RobM1981 at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (zurJC)

176 Hrothgar, consider it done.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (nL0sw)

177 She neglected to say whether or not the officers would get justice.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2015 01:25 PM


She didn't have to. No one expects it anyway.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (h4vJk)

178 163 Forget the oil platforms, just a bit farther afield

http://islandsofpuertorico.com/isla-de-mona/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 01:32 PM (CwVOr)

I think if I had either a large sailboat or had obtained (through squatting) an oil platform that was uninhabited and unused by anyone else, I could morally justify shooting people who came there without my permission. Probably. Haven't thought it all the way through yet. I would have a much harder time doing that with an island that is already part of a US territory.

With a sailboat, I could anchor offshore and visit/make my home there at my leisure, as long as I had my bug out bag ready to go at a moments notice.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (sPp6M)

179 Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:29 PM (W54dV)

If I recall, a US flagged ship must have a US-based crew and pay US taxes and follow US labor laws and regulations.

And any ship that goes to multiple US ports need to have a US crew. They needed to suspend that law during Katrina since there aren't THAT many us-flagged and US-crewed ships out there anymore.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (AkOaV)

180 No worries. Boehner has us covered.
Posted by: RobM1981 at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM


That's what I'm worried about.

Posted by: The Chicken at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (h4vJk)

181
US and British flagged ships. Not sure about the others.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM
==============

Not a good week for NATO signatories.

Posted by: mrp at May 01, 2015 01:39 PM (JBggj)

182 So, our dear leader isn't going to let the Keystone pipeline be built, and he isn't going to protect the Straight of Hormuz. The words "necessarily skyrocket" come to mind.

Posted by: no good deed at May 01, 2015 01:40 PM (GgxVX)

183 She didn't have to. No one expects it anyway.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:37 PM (h4vJk)

I doubt anyone who wasn't riding in the van will ever know what actual justice is, in this case, short of some very clear evidence. A jury will make a decision. One faction will be very angry about it. Another will say justice was done. The only ones who will know what is actually true will be the people who were there.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:41 PM (sPp6M)

184 Instead of saying "someone should photoshop..." why not just photoshop it yourself?

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah at May 01, 2015 01:41 PM (7ObY1)

185 181
US and British flagged ships. Not sure about the others.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM
==============

Not a good week for NATO signatories.
Posted by: mrp at May 01, 2015 01:39 PM (JBggj)

NATO promotes stability, and so must be sacrificed.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:41 PM (RD7QR)

186 In other good news, Larry Flynt has come out in support of Hillary. From one hustler to another.
Posted by: Cheri at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (oiNtH)

When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM (EMXR7)

187 186 In other good news, Larry Flynt has come out in support of Hillary. From one hustler to another.
Posted by: Cheri at May 01, 2015 01:27 PM (oiNtH)

When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM (EMXR7)

Right before the Antichrist is revealed?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

188 I doubt anyone who wasn't riding in the van will ever know what actual justice is, in this case, short of some very clear evidence. A jury will make a decision. One faction will be very angry about it. Another will say justice was done. The only ones who will know what is actually true will be the people who were there.
Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:41 PM (sPp6M)

And what jurist in their right mind is going to want to acquit the cops. Most people remember the threats to the Zimmerman jury......

Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (EMXR7)

189 "80
Wonder what would he do if Congress declared war on Iran?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 01, 2015 01:08 PM (jsWA"

Obama, of course, would never sign such a declaration.

The question, though, is interesting in the event that we ever have a real President again. Effective opposition to wars requires that the media have many news cycles to drive home the anti war message and then, after the media have reinvented reality, the Democrats are free to undo the accomplishments won with the blood and sacrifice of America's fighting men and women.

However, Iran could be hit with about 600 nuclear weapons over the course of a day or two and then cease to pose a threat. That would only involve a couple of news cycles and then the next earthquake, Kardashian, ghey thing, race riot would push it out of the news. There would be documentaries on PBS and all the usual lefties would say all the usual stuff about America being the worst place evahhhhh but they already do that now.

Eventually, Democrats will lie themselves back into power and they will try to undo the victory but unless they can genetically recreate the Persians and, while they are messing with the DNA make them radiation resistant, they will not be able to undo the results.


The Democrats might threaten to turn over all the people involved to the International Criminal Court, because you know the Europeans would be hopping mad about that sort of unilateral US action but I am guessing that Israel might be willing to provide sanctuary until the Democrats are gone.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (KDbAT)

190 Just like not negotiating with terrorists....

Obama is now 'fundamentally changing' America, by ceding the freedom of the Seas so many of us spent YEARS defending.

Obama allowed a Civil Court in Iran, to order the seizure on this ship...

They argued it had entered Iranian Waters... so just like the Spaniards seizing the ships of the treasure hunters they wanted to get Gold from... it was 'legal'...

Even though it was in a Channel that in the past, we had guaranteed a right of innocent passage.

What this precedent sets, is that now Iran will press the claim that any ship entering the Gulf is under Iranian Legal Jurisdiction, INCLUDING for TAX purposes.

And we are letting the Precedent stand.

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (qh617)

191 Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM

That mental image alone at lunchtime should send you to the Barrel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (h4vJk)

192 The reach of the US Navy per the War of 1812 was limited for a simple reason. Congress did not want a Navy.
=========
Sorta. The Democrats didn't want a blue-water Navy. Coastal gun-boats were A-OK, though. The battle on Lake Bourgne (New Orleans) proved how wrong they were. Frames stored for US capital ships were used to build Jefferson's follies (spit).

Posted by: mrp at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (JBggj)

193 >>When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

You should be censored for that.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2015 01:44 PM (g1DWB)

194 Well, it may be time to look for a place to hunker down.

I'm thinking Liberland...a newly declared micro-country in a patch of woods on the shores of the Danube.
The motto is To Live and Let Live. And all new prospective Liberlanders are encouraged to bring all their own equipment (including tents, sleeping bags and beer) to establish residency.

I'm thinking this has 'rons and 'ettes written all over it!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 01, 2015 01:45 PM (Z9g7j)

195 When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler? Posted by: Jen the original

*blergh*

Posted by: they call me 'ralph' at May 01, 2015 01:45 PM (Spluw)

196 And what jurist in their right mind is going to want to acquit the cops. Most people remember the threats to the Zimmerman jury......
Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (EMXR7)

Right. It won't matter what the evidence is. The losing faction will claim injustice. The winning faction will declare victory. The rest of us will have to guess at what may have actually happened and hope that it never happens to us. Until we are ready to arm ourselves against tyranny.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:45 PM (sPp6M)

197 When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM (EMXR7)


http://tinyurl.com/p4cdljo


Only the brave shall be rewarded

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:46 PM (fWAjv)

198 What this precedent sets, is that now Iran will press the claim that any ship entering the Gulf is under Iranian Legal Jurisdiction, INCLUDING for TAX purposes.

And we are letting the Precedent stand.

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 01:43 PM (qh617)


Oh.... and when Iran puts a price on passage in and out of the Gulf....oil prices will go up...

Which also helps???? RUSSIA... as they then become a more stable source of energy to Europe...

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 01:46 PM (qh617)

199 Sadly enough we'll probably look back in a few years and consider these the relatively good times. It's going to get a whole lot worse.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 01, 2015 01:47 PM (dqxMS)

200 When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM (EMXR7

I just blew a mouthful of coffee across my screen. I cannot un-see that in my mind!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 01, 2015 01:47 PM (Z9g7j)

201 And he is an adviser to TFG.


Rev. Al Sharpton called for the Justice Department to 'take over policing in this country' and stated 'we're going to have to fight states' rights' in comments recorded by the Baltimore Sun on Thursday.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:47 PM (fWAjv)

202 ***"The reach of the US Navy per the War of 1812 was limited for a simple reason. Congress did not want a Navy."***



Nor could congress afford it. I only pointed that out to show that the US wasn't any sort of serious maritime force during that time.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 01, 2015 01:49 PM (xSCb6)

203 >>>>The United States has enforced the free transit across the seas for centuries.

Um. No.

Decades, sure.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:49 PM (3ZtZW)

204 197 When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 01, 2015 01:42 PM (EMXR7)


http://tinyurl.com/p4cdljo


Only the brave shall be rewarded
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:46 PM (fWAjv)

You're a prince among morons.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

205 This is the second incident. First time was an American flagged ship.

Crew of Iran-Seized Maersk Tigris Are 'In Good Spirits,' Company Says

The crew of a cargo ship seized by Iranian forces were safe and in "good spirits," Danish shipping company Maersk said Wednesday.

The Maersk Tigris was preparing to enter the Strait of Hormuz when the Iranian Revolutionary Guard fired across the Marshall-Islands-flagged ship's bow and boarded it Tuesday, according to senior U.S. defense officials. Iran has not officially commented on the seizure.

Maersk said Wednesday it was in close talks with the Danish Foreign Ministry and was working to obtain more information about why the vessel was seized in international waters.

"The crew is safe and under the circumstances in good spirits," the company said in a statement. "The well-being of the crew remains our paramount concern."

Maersk said that according to its information, the ship was being escorted towards Bandar Abbas in Iran by Iranian patrol boats.

The U.S. Navy has dispatched a guided-missile destroyer, the USS Farragut, and three patrol boats to the southern end of the Persian Gulf.

The Tigris is being held in Iranian territorial waters, and it is unclear what circumstances would trigger a response or whether the U.S. is willing to engage militarily with the Iranians.

Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said the United States "has the discretion to take action" under maritime law. He said that would require a presidential order.

The takeover of the Tigris was the second incident of Iranian "harassment" of free shipping within the Strait of Hormuz in four days, Warren said. On April 24, four Iranian Revolutionary Guard gunboats "harassed" the American-flagged cargo ship Maersk Kensington as it transited the Strait into the Persian Gulf.

Posted by: River Guide at May 01, 2015 01:50 PM (RJMhd)

206 Al Sharpton can eat a rancid dick.

He may think he wants a fight, but I doubt he has thought his idiotic idea through...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 01:50 PM (OsWis)

207 I've finished my binge watching and am going through withdrawal symptoms. What should I binge on next ?

Justified

or

Breaking Bad

Not Sons of Anarchy.

Posted by: Lyle Doughton at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (W54dV)

208 Insty has 55% Off HOBO Handbags & Wallets...

Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (ASn1R)

209 201 And he is an adviser to TFG.


Rev. Al Sharpton called for the Justice Department to 'take over policing in this country' and stated 'we're going to have to fight states' rights' in comments recorded by the Baltimore Sun on Thursday.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:47 PM (fWAjv)

My family has been working to become debt free. Every available dollar has been going to that purpose. I am beginning to worry that it is too late to bother, and I ought to be buying guns. I have a .356 Marlin lever action that my dad bought me as a kid, which I occasionally shoot a deer with, and that is my only firearm. I need an AR, a sidearm, and a good shotgun. Then I need a rifle and a handgun for each of my kids.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (sPp6M)

210 You're a prince among morons.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

Needed something to get that image out. Glad you clicked on it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (fWAjv)

211 Only the brave shall be rewarded
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:46 PM


*nods*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (h4vJk)

212
You're a prince among morons.

Thanks for being the first one through the door.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (JtwS4)

213 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:47 PM (fWAjv)

Nationalizing the police force?

Hmm...

What makes them think THAT would change anything?

Also, wouldn't they run in to issues with Posse Comitatus? Because a national police force would just be a military force with a different name?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)

214 134 128 It's almost as if he's daring anyone to impeach him.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (zRby/)

I think this is an active part of the progressive strategy. It's exactly this.
Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:24 PM (sPp6M)


This isn't the Rubicon to die on.

Posted by: GOP Bravely Running Away at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (0NdlF)

215 Hmmm, I seem to remember that Obama personally shot dead three Somali pirates who stole a U.S. cargo ship. But this is Iran, so whatevs.

Posted by: Marmo at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (QW+AD)

216 Insty has 55% Off HOBO Handbags & Wallets...

Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM


Are they made from real hobos?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (h4vJk)

217 Excuse me but to say he has given up implies that he had any support for it in the first place. A number of foreign policy positions basically ran on autopilot after Barry took office. On occasion his attention was diverted towards those long standing policies and he quickly sprang into action and reversed them.
God help us all if anyone shows him a copy of the Bill of Rights and explains them to him.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 01, 2015 01:53 PM (agKOd)

218 Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (sPp6M)

good luck on getting debt free!

I pulled it off a few years ago.

Best feeling ever, don't think I've ever slept as soundly as I do now.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:53 PM (AkOaV)

219 >>> Insty has 55% Off HOBO Handbags Wallets...

Made from real hoboes?

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:53 PM (3ZtZW)

220 I already provided an update, that the US Navy is accompanying US flagged vessels through the straits and that the Iranians are holding to their claim that they have a court judgment.


While I do not believe their claim, once the ship was intercepted and ordered to anchor there is little that can be done by the USN. The Maersk Alabama incident took place on the high seas, without any nearby support for the pirates, no nation-state involvement, and pretty much was in the control of the USN from the time it showed up. Here it wouldn't be quite so easy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 01, 2015 01:54 PM (hLRSq)

221 And on another note, this is the list of complaints against the Kleins (the couple who refused to make a wedding cake for the gay couple). I'm not wanting to get into a whole debate on gay marriage, just noting the complaints. They were afraid that by not getting a wedding cake from that particular bakery they would not be able to get another job. Lunacy

http://tinyurl.com/qb7lwfu:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 01:54 PM (DXzRD)

222 This isn't the Rubicon to die on.
Posted by: GOP Bravely Running Away at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (0NdlF)

you know, homeschooling our kids, I just recently learned about Ceasar crossing the Rubicon and why that saying is a saying. #thingstheydon'tteachyouinschool

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:54 PM (sPp6M)

223 Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:53 PM (3ZtZW)

55% fully recycled consumer grade hobo skin, with 45% bald eagle skin

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:54 PM (AkOaV)

224 Are they really pirates? I mean, do they have parrots on their shoulders?

-
And concertinas. Don't forget the concertinas.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 01:55 PM (XUKZU)

225 Speaking of boats, how come I don't have one? Like Air Force One. Navy One. I could need one for situations like this.
Think I'll appoint a blue ribbon commission to look into that.

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at May 01, 2015 01:55 PM (YFFpo)

226 gcaaptain-dot-com has good articles up on the Maersk Tigris

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 01, 2015 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

227 There is no President of the United States.

Posted by: eman at May 01, 2015 01:56 PM (60Hn0)

228 I have a .356 Marlin lever action that my dad bought me as a kid, which I occasionally shoot a deer with, and that is my only firearm. I need an AR, a sidearm, and a good shotgun. Then I need a rifle and a handgun for each of my kids.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:51 PM (sPp6M)

VEPR in 7.62x54r 'cause I love shooting affordable ammo

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:56 PM (fWAjv)

229 For the Biblically inclined Morons, I'm studying Isaiah and it's striking just how much of its criticism of ancient Judah can be applied to modern America.

"If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all."

Describes pretty much everything that conservatives have failed at in our society. We lose the Culture War because we surrender it again and again and again and again.

And yes, it's fail - because what have we conserved at the societal level? We'll take that Liberalism, but just a little slower.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2015 01:56 PM (0NdlF)

230 Al Sharpton? Really? States Rights? Maryland?

Is there a bluer state in the Union than Maryland, and a bluer city than Baltimore? And in Al Sharpton's world, Baltimore is a seething furnace of racism?

Posted by: mrp at May 01, 2015 01:56 PM (JBggj)

231
Speaking of boats, how come I don't have one? Like Air Force One

Was it Carter who got rid of FDR's Presidential yacht Sequoia?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:56 PM (JtwS4)

232 >>>> I just recently learned about Ceasar crossing the Rubicon and why that saying is a saying

Rubicon was the boundary beyond which the Roman Army was not permitted to go. Caesar marched them past it. Its a river. yattayattaetcetc The saying means you can't go back; once you've crossed this point everything changes.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (3ZtZW)

233 Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at May 01, 2015 01:55 PM (YFFpo)

Let's not give the guy any ideas.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (sPp6M)

234 "150
There are a number of disused drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. I
wonder what is their condition, legal status and suitability?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:22 PM (KDbAT)



There is an idea. And a lot of fish make their homes around the legs of those things, so we would never run out of food.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 01:28 PM (sPp6M)"

One thing you might want to look up on the intertubes is "Sea-Crete" or "Biorock". Essentially, if you feed negative DC current into a submerged conductor like the steel legs of a disused oil platform, calcium carbonate will acrete onto the conductor at the rate of about 2 inches a year. This reverses rusting and makes the underwater portions of the platform a lot stronger. It also serves to remove carbon from the ocean so maybe there is some sort of environmental do gooder government program that would guarantee your occupation as long as you maintain the windmill that generates the power. Another thing about that is that shellfish attached to the conductor grow at twice the rate that they do in ordinary conditions so if you want ed to raise oysters or some other shell fish commercially of for your own consumption, that is something to think about.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (KDbAT)

235 gcaptain-dot-com


Sheesh; why can't I spell?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (hLRSq)

236 http://tinyurl.com/qb7lwfu:



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 01:54 PM (DXzRD)


the best part was about the stress causing WEIGHT GAIN!!!

Thus, not selling you a cake, now cases Women to get Fat!!!

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (qh617)

237 I pulled it off a few years ago.

Best feeling ever, don't think I've ever slept as soundly as I do now.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 01, 2015 01:53 PM (AkOaV)

Yep. Got a loan from the credit union to pay off debt. Paid the loan off really quick. Now debt free and woo hoo!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (fWAjv)

238 212
You're a prince among morons.

Thanks for being the first one through the door.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 01:52 PM (JtwS4)

Yeah, that's why the Grue always ate me.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

239 This is funny(no spiders pollyana)
http://goo.gl/tgIEJD

Posted by: maddogg at May 01, 2015 01:59 PM (xWW96)

240 Rubicon was the boundary beyond which the Roman Army was not permitted to go. Caesar marched them past it. Its a river. yattayattaetcetc The saying means you can't go back; once you've crossed this point everything changes.
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (3ZtZW)

Right. That's what the kids were studying, which I read to them out of their "History of the World" book. I didn't know it. Incidentally, Ceasar was marching the army over the Rubicon toward Rome to go fight a civil war with the senate and the consuls. His opposition fled, and he walked into Rome with their own Roman army at his back, and zero opposition. He was the clear leader from that time forward.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:00 PM (sPp6M)

241 I called this as piracy by Iran when the discussion first arose on this the day it happened. And, predictably, Obozo turns a blind eye to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2015 02:00 PM (2w1g0)

242
Rubicon was the boundary beyond which the Roman Army was not permitted to go.

And the big deal was that they crossed it in the direction of Rome. The Army was supposed to only be employed in away games and not in Rome itself.

That was the transition to despotism.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 02:00 PM (JtwS4)

243 BridgeGate: OMG.

HillaryGate I, II, III, IV, V....: Yawn.

Posted by: The MSM at May 01, 2015 02:00 PM (xpPRn)

244 @203

Take a read of "Six Frigates." Those 6 ships went very far in ensuring that US ships wouldn't be bothered on the high seas. Their impact was huge, frankly.

And that's about 200 year ago.

Posted by: RobM1981 at May 01, 2015 02:00 PM (zurJC)

245
They misplaced the Rubican, ya know. So, you could be crossing it all day and no one wd know.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:01 PM (iQIUe)

246 Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (3ZtZW)

The Rubicon was the boundary past which the Praetorian Guard was supposed to protect Rome... so taking a standard Legion past that, was considered Treason.

So crossing the Rubicon, was a blatant act of Treason...

BUT.. the winners get to decide what Treason is... sooooo....

Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 02:01 PM (qh617)

247
Rubicon was the boundary beyond which the Roman Army was not permitted to go. Caesar marched them past it. Its a river. yattayattaetcetc The saying means you can't go back; once you've crossed this point everything changes.

The benefits of a classical education...

Posted by: Hans Gruber at May 01, 2015 02:01 PM (OiH3z)

248 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (KDbAT)

Interesting. I happen to be violently allergic to oysters, but other kinds of shellfish do not bother me in the slightest. And I've never had anything better than fresh red snapper right out of the gulf.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:02 PM (sPp6M)

249 The relationship really melted down last year when Obama allegedly stonewalled the family over the funeral of Obama's aunt Zaituni, which the president skipped in order to play another round of golf.

Man of principles.

No one is getting between Obama and his greens. No one.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2015 02:03 PM (0NdlF)

250 Rubicon was the boundary beyond which the Roman Army was not permitted to go. Caesar marched them past it.

Rubi-COOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James Tiberius Caesar at May 01, 2015 02:03 PM (oVJmc)

251 So ol' Freddie had an active warrant at the time of his arrest.


Shhhhhhh.......facts.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:03 PM (fWAjv)

252 Couldn't Congress just declare war on Iran and then impeach Obama for treason?

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2015 02:04 PM (DL2i+)

253 251 So ol' Freddie had an active warrant at the time of his arrest.


Shhhhhhh.......facts.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:03 PM (fWAjv)

Doesn't justify mistreating him, but still interesting.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

254 >>> Incidentally, Ceasar was marching the army over the Rubicon toward Rome to go fight a civil war

Yup. Look up more about those civil wars, too. I think the Gracci would be especially interesting. A kind of Rubicon was crossed when mob violence became an accepted form of settling elections results - and woah, hey, look where we are now. Then Sulla, which maybe we need.

Incidentally, Caesar himself was sort of a cool kid. Wore his toga loose, sometimes with fringe. Think of Caesar like some upstart rock n roll star rather than a boring english stage actor and you're not far off.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:05 PM (3ZtZW)

255 Yeah, that's why the Grue always ate me.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (RD7QR)


You keep tripping everyone else so you can get to the treasure first, you got what was coming to you. Don't worry - we made sure to drink your share of the loot first. We knew you wanted it that way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 01, 2015 02:05 PM (hLRSq)

256 >>Interesting. I happen to be violently allergic to oysters, but other kinds of shellfish do not bother me in the slightest. And I've never had anything better than fresh red snapper right out of the gulf.



How you doing?

Posted by: Sandra's Fluke at May 01, 2015 02:05 PM (/ODk4)

257 Give me a fast ship for I intend to runaway from harm!

- Admiral Obama

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:06 PM (XUKZU)

258 >>> And the big deal was that they crossed it in the direction of Rome.

Thought that was assumed, sorry.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:06 PM (3ZtZW)

259 It also serves to remove carbon from the ocean so maybe there is some sort of environmental do gooder government program that would guarantee your occupation as long as you maintain the windmill that generates the power.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 01:57 PM (KDbAT)

I just noticed this part of your plan. Brilliant. Use their own policies to guarantee my freedom.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:07 PM (sPp6M)

260 >>>> The benefits of a classical education...

I put it you, sir: Were I to post something substantive, would it be read?

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:07 PM (3ZtZW)

261 A number of the complaints are contradictory- such as "sleeping too much: and "loss of sleep". However, the other complaint alleged:

"Not wanting husband to touch her". So apparently in this lesbian relationship one of the partners is the husband?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:07 PM (DXzRD)

262 260 >>>> The benefits of a classical education...

I put it you, sir: Were I to post something substantive, would it be read?
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:07 PM (3ZtZW)

On a Friday afternoon?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 01, 2015 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

263 How you doing?
Posted by: Sandra's Fluke at May 01, 2015 02:05 PM (/ODk4)

:-/ I just discovered an equally violent allergy to Sandra's Fluke.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:08 PM (sPp6M)

264 Just read that one of the biggest donors to the state's attorney who's prosecuting the Baltimore cops is also . . . the lawyer for the family of the victim, Freddie Gray. The Gray family lawyer also served on the transition team . . . for the same state's attorney who is prosecuting the cops accused of killing Gray.

LOL. Yeah, no conflict of interest there, right? Good luck to those cops. They're going to need it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 01, 2015 02:08 PM (lmdHn)

265 Freedom of the seas is another way of saying ships going where they will. Ships carried slaves. Fvck 'em.

- Admiral Obama

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:09 PM (XUKZU)

266 President Asshole Obama is determined to cement your feet before throwing you overboard.

Posted by: Randolph Scott at May 01, 2015 02:09 PM (e8kgV)

267

they have torpedos full speed reverse!!!!

Posted by: barrack farragut obama at May 01, 2015 02:10 PM (lKyWE)

268 I called this as piracy by Iran when the discussion first arose on this the day it happened.



Yeah. The claim of a 10 yr old debt was bs.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2015 02:10 PM (LVXFh)

269 They misplaced the Rubican, ya know. So, you could be crossing it all day and no one wd know.

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You can say that again.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:11 PM (XUKZU)

270 I would never fuck a ship! They're all referred to as "she"!

Posted by: Admiral Obama at May 01, 2015 02:12 PM (1OQmQ)

271 "264
Just read that one of the biggest donors to the state's attorney who's
prosecuting the Baltimore cops is also . . . the lawyer for the family
of the victim, Freddie Gray. The Gray family lawyer also served on the
transition team . . . for the same state's attorney who is prosecuting
the cops accused of killing Gray.



LOL. Yeah, no conflict of interest there, right? Good luck to those cops. They're going to need it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 01, 2015 02:08 PM (lmdHn)"

Looking into my crystal ball I predict that over the next year or so most police department vacancies across the United States are going to be filled with former Baltimore policemen. Further, I predict that just about every Baltimore policeman with enough years to retire is going to do so real soon now.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 02:12 PM (KDbAT)

272 I think the Gracci would be especially interesting.

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Back when I was in high school and they actually taught history, I was told the Gracci were the Kennedys of their day.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:13 PM (XUKZU)

273 I just read that the US Navy will be escorting all US and British ships in the Gulf of Hormuz, isn't this at odds with this post, or am I missing something?

Posted by: Heralder at May 01, 2015 02:13 PM (ECROs)

274 We have seaman ship, seaman ship, for love;
We have seaman ship, seaman ship, for peace;
(TFG voiceover: I love United States. I love peace. US Navy)
We have seaman ship, seaman ship, for love!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:14 PM (fWAjv)

275 >>>When does Hillary do her Centerfold in Hustler?

Posted by: Jen the original<<<

I thought she had already done her spread in Cankle Chasers Quarterly.

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2015 02:14 PM (UzPAd)

276 The benefits of a classical education...
Posted by: Hans Gruber at May 01, 2015 02:01 PM


But can you speak dodo and unicorn?

Posted by: Polynesia at May 01, 2015 02:14 PM (h4vJk)

277 I just read that the US Navy will be escorting all US and British ships in the Gulf of Hormuz, isn't this at odds with this post, or am I missing something?



Very few ships are US Flagged.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2015 02:15 PM (LVXFh)

278 "273
I just read that the US Navy will be escorting all US and British ships
in the Gulf of Hormuz, isn't this at odds with this post, or am I
missing something?


Posted by: Heralder at May 01, 2015 02:13 PM (ECROs)"

It depends on whether the ships are American and British owned or American and British flagged. Most American owned ships are flagged in Panama or Liberia.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 02:15 PM (KDbAT)

279 Incidentally, Ceasar was marching the army over the Rubicon toward Rome to go fight a civil war


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Incidentally, a good, readable history book with just a touch of mysticism about the fall of the Roman Republic is Rubicon by Tom Holland.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:16 PM (XUKZU)

280 Last time POTUS came aboard he was asked to 'mount the gangaway', but heard 'mount the gangbang', and ran to the showers...

Posted by: Seaman Stains at May 01, 2015 02:17 PM (ASn1R)

281 So I read that Treyvon's mom will be visiting B-more
and it struck me that I haven't seen much of Freddie Gray's parents.

Did I miss something ? Are they keeping a low profile for a reason ?

Posted by: McCool at May 01, 2015 02:18 PM (PhpHA)

282 Prepare to be boarded!!!

Posted by: reggie at May 01, 2015 02:18 PM (kivUY)

283 Back when I was in high school and they actually taught history, I was told the Gracci were the Kennedys of their day.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:13 PM (XUKZU)


So, drunken whoremongers who left women to drown while they ran off like cowards to save their careers?

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2015 02:18 PM (5Qo1j)

284 Incidentally, a good, readable history book with just a touch of mysticism about the fall of the Roman Republic is Rubicon by Tom Holland.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:16 PM (XUKZU)

thanks

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:18 PM (sPp6M)

285 St. Skittles mother to bless Baltimore with her presence.


YAY!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:19 PM (fWAjv)

286 Very few ships are US Flagged.

Is that to avoid taxes and regulation ?
Like John Kerry's yacht ?

Posted by: McCool at May 01, 2015 02:19 PM (PhpHA)

287 the best part was about the stress causing WEIGHT GAIN!!!



Thus, not selling you a cake, now cases Women to get Fat!!!





Posted by: BB Wolf at May 01, 2015 01:58 PM (qh617)


Judging from the Diesel Dykes I've seen, they must live very stressful lives, indeed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2015 02:19 PM (2w1g0)

288 Is that to avoid taxes and regulation ?



Taxes, regs, labor laws, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2015 02:20 PM (LVXFh)

289 Very few ships are US Flagged.

Is that to avoid taxes and regulation ?
Like John Kerry's yacht ?

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John Kerry sails under a hammer and sickle flag.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:20 PM (XUKZU)

290 St. Skittles mother to bless Baltimore with her presence.


YAY!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:19 PM


Bartender! Purple drank for everyone!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 02:20 PM (h4vJk)

291 >>>I was told the Gracci were the Kennedys of their day.

Best approximation, I guess. Today you might say they were SJWs or like Sharpton, etc. But still not too on point. Really, they were taking on very real class privileges [unlike here in the US] and were just as obnoxious as most radicals are.

Tiberius was clubbed to death by a mob. Gaius committed suicde rather than be killed similarly. Force and mob violence became accepted in settling political matters - that's the important part to me, no matter which 'side' they were on, which is meaningless in Roman politics anyway.

You can see it, I hope? After the DOJ declined the NBPP case we're on that very road.

I'm no expert on Rome, BTW, just like history.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (3ZtZW)

292 It depends on whether the ships are American and British owned or American and British flagged. Most American owned ships are flagged in Panama or Liberia.


Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 02:15 PM (KDbAT)


During the "Tanker Wars" of the 1980's the Kuwaiti tankers were re-flagged as US ships which put them under US Navy protection. Even then, during the Reagan Administration, we were not escorting everybody and his brother's ships through the straits, just ours and close allies.


Me - I think that this is Iran trying get something back from the USA for those ships that were turned back from Yemen. Despite all of their bluster the Iranians know they really cannot take on the USA in a shooting match, so they pull a little stunt like this, grab a flimsy pretext, just so they can shout "See! I told you! I'm smart, I'm important, not impotent like all of those guys say! I'm important and you got to respect me!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (hLRSq)

293 Here is another upcoming 40th anniversary - when US Marines retook the SS Mayaguez after Khmer Rouge pirates had seized it.

http://www.usmm.org/mayaguez.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (CwVOr)

294 John Paul Jones: I have not yet begun to fight!

Obama: Reggie, be quick to work my yardarm!

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (wUFzV)

295 Did I miss something ? Are they keeping a low profile for a reason ?

From what I've seen, they don't want anything to do with what's going on in Baltimore.

Posted by: no good deed at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (GgxVX)

296 If history doesn't repeat it rhymes. Back to muzzie pirates but where is Jefferson?


Does this make it talk like a pirate year?


Those oil derricks are evacuated whenever a hurricane blows through. Might be a scary ride to live out there.

Posted by: just saying at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (wkuqO)

297
260 >>>> The benefits of a classical education...

I put it you, sir: Were I to post something substantive, would it be read?
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:07 PM (3ZtZW)

On a Friday afternoon?


Well there's only been one elbows post and this Bigby feller seems to know more about Caesar than I do, so I'm happy to sit back and be educated.

As long as there's no math.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 02:22 PM (JtwS4)

298 Hung Il Dong, 17, is reported to have been the first man to land on the sun, according to North Korean Central news.

“We are very delighted to announce a successful mission to put a man on the sun. North Korea has beaten every other country in the world to the sun. Hung Il Gong is a hero and deserves a hero’s welcome when he returns home later this evening,” the broadcaster said.

It was said that the journey was made possible by traveling under the cover of darkness, which protected him from the extreme heat of the sun.

Just in case you missed it.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 01, 2015 02:23 PM (agKOd)

299 Looking into my crystal ball I predict that over the next year or so most police department vacancies across the United States are going to be filled with former Baltimore policemen.
_______________

Yes, if they're smart, any white cops left in Baltimore will get the hell out of there, ASAP. The fix is in.

You know, if those cops really did do something to intentionally cause injury to Gray, then they deserve to be prosecuted. But I have zero confidence in this prosecutor, who is clearly operating under several conflicts of interest (her husband is also a city councilman in Baltimore) and should not be anywhere near this case.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (lmdHn)

300
The benefits of a classical education includes caning and anal probings. I'll pass!

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (iQIUe)

301 This particular woman are not unattractive (not that it makes any difference if they were), but it's just lunacy for the lawyer to claim that not getting a cake from that bakery would cause weight gain as well as loss of appetite. It's like they just decided to go alphabetically, make up complaints and didn't bother being concerned that some of the claims contradicted each other

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (DXzRD)

302 Weasel Zippers:
Sharpton and taking over policing: We are going to have to fight states rights.

9th & 10th Amendments. The hill to die on.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (LVXFh)

303 291 >>>I was told the Gracci were the Kennedys of their day.

Best approximation, I guess. Today you might say they were SJWs or like Sharpton, etc. But still not too on point. Really, they were taking on very real class privileges [unlike here in the US] and were just as obnoxious as most radicals are.

Tiberius was clubbed to death by a mob. Gaius committed suicde rather than be killed similarly. Force and mob violence became accepted in settling political matters - that's the important part to me, no matter which 'side' they were on, which is meaningless in Roman politics anyway.

You can see it, I hope? After the DOJ declined the NBPP case we're on that very road.

I'm no expert on Rome, BTW, just like history.
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:21 PM (3ZtZW)

You have just shown me that I know very little. Props to you, Sir. The book I read to my kids didn't say anything about that.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (sPp6M)

304 Bad shit happens when you elect(than re elect) an enemy.But we had nothing to fear,right John McCain?

Posted by: steevy at May 01, 2015 02:25 PM (mGBKM)

305 Spreading lies about a Presdent of Color is a Federal Crime!! You don't tell lies about the Presdent and expect to get away with this people....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 01, 2015 02:25 PM (Sd++4)

306 >>>> Back to muzzie pirates but where is Jefferson?

If you're a fan of the Great Man theory of history, one [or more!] will emerge soon enough. Terrifying.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:25 PM (3ZtZW)

307
I just read that the US Navy will be escorting all US and British ships
in the Gulf of Hormuz, isn't this at odds with this post, or am I
missing something?


Posted by: Heralder at May 01, 2015 02:13 PM (ECROs)


Pro tip: go to your nearest port, and look at the flags flying from the sterns of the cargo vessels there. If they are flying a flag of convenience, they aren't "U.S." or "British" ships.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2015 02:26 PM (2w1g0)

308 Sorry-"These" not "This"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:26 PM (DXzRD)

309 Posted by: Daybrother at May 01, 2015 02:23 PM (agKOd)

What? That's not real.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:26 PM (sPp6M)

310 298 Hung Il Dong, 17, is reported to have been the first man to land on the sun, according to North Korean Central news.

*****************

"Hung Il Dong"? Wasn't that a joke from the Kentucky Fried Movie?

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 01, 2015 02:27 PM (xkSSa)

311 I stand by my story.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 01, 2015 02:27 PM (agKOd)

312
I still chuckle, and I know I shouldnt, that Howard Dean's brother and a pal when backpacking down the Mekong River in 1974. WTF were they thinking???

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:28 PM (iQIUe)

313 A ho, mateys!!!

Posted by: reggie at May 01, 2015 02:28 PM (kivUY)

314 Reggie's Secret Service nickname is the SS Cuttlefish.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 01, 2015 02:28 PM (wUFzV)

315 311,

It's more believable than the JEF giving a fuck about this country.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 02:29 PM (OsWis)

316 Millions* for defense but not one cent for tribute.

By executive order the above statement is now null and void



*In order to update the statement a few zero's would need to be added

Posted by: ADK46er at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (pFqDd)

317 If they don't want anything to do with what's going ion Baltimore I applaud Freddy's Gray's parents for that. if I recall, they didn't want Sharpton there either, but the Mayor invited him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (DXzRD)

318 311 I stand by my story.
Posted by: Daybrother at May 01, 2015 02:27 PM (agKOd)

That has to be from the onion. If the Norks wrote that down as propaganda for their own people, things must be even worse over there than we think. That is lunacy.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (sPp6M)

319
I can't get decent cuttlefish around here.

I live in a Calimari Desert.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (JtwS4)

320 There were a bunch of leftys who thought they wd be unharmed by the Khoumar Rouge whose heads ended up on spikes.

And there are all those leftys who loved and served Mao who still ended up doing years in prison for no reason.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (iQIUe)

321 but it's just lunacy for the lawyer to claim that not getting a cake from that bakery would cause weight gain as well as loss of appetite. It's like they just decided to go alphabetically, make up complaints and didn't bother being concerned that some of the claims contradicted each other

Paging AmishDude. Paging AmishDue.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 01, 2015 02:30 PM (0NdlF)

322 312 Too bad Howard didn't join them.

Posted by: steevy at May 01, 2015 02:31 PM (mGBKM)

323 Yes, all those complaints are from a list that tort attys use to claim damages. It's silly.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:32 PM (iQIUe)

324 Well, yes no doubt AmishDude can't make generalized complaints about lawyers which I wasn't making and am not interested in making, but this particular lawyer-uggh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:32 PM (DXzRD)

325 >>> The book I read to my kids didn't say anything about that.

It probly wouldn't. The Gracci were plebian leaders, Tribunes. All of the classes had their leaders separately. Your book likely focused on the Aristocrats. Thats like foreign plicy versus domestic.

As Tribune, Tiberius wanted to redistribute lands from the wealthy to the poor. Part of that, I think, was to honor the promises made to soldiers. You can see why he was clubbed to death. Gaius tried to carry on some aspects of his brothers work.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:33 PM (3ZtZW)

326 "Hung Il Dong"? Wasn't that a joke from the Kentucky Fried Movie?

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 01, 2015 02:27 PM


He's my cousin.

Posted by: Long Duc at May 01, 2015 02:33 PM (h4vJk)

327 That has to be from the onion.

The Onion reads more like legit journalism these days than outlets considered legit journalism.

http://is.gd/p5gqT5

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (/kI1Q)

328 Can you block Clogginstien's ridiculous statements? My pet hamster makes more sense when it talks!!!!

Posted by: Frogger McGhee at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (tDemh)

329 I can still rape other marine mammals though, right?

Ok, good!

*phew*

Posted by: Dolphin used by US Navy at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (wUFzV)

330 Remind me again of all the ghey reasons that Obamao can't be impeached. Will we be able to impeach him when NY city gets nuked or will it require more still?

Posted by: An Observation at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (2RQjS)

331 My review of Age of Ultron: at no point in the movie did I care what happens next.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (nFdGS)

332 Cloggenstein is a long time sock.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (DXzRD)

333 Hrothgar, prayers up for your sister-in-law and you. May she heal quickly and may God give you his peace and joy.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 01, 2015 02:35 PM (0RdKg)

334 332 Cloggenstein is a long time sock.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (DXzRD)


And often makes me LOL.

Posted by: just saying at May 01, 2015 02:35 PM (wkuqO)

335 The president is a coward and traitor, truly a tool of the Caliphate.

I do not say this lightly, but because it should be said, but there needs to be a coup d'etat with Obama being removed from goverment and placed in solitary confinement for the rest of his life in Leavenworth.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 01, 2015 02:36 PM (4CRfK)

336 Obama is coddling the nation that is responsible for financing terrorism throughout the world? I'm pretty sure I know the words to that song by now.

Anyhoo, here on the west coast it's lunch time and I'm in a bit of a quandary. Is it okay for me to put ham and swiss on Jewish rye?

Posted by: Hank at May 01, 2015 02:36 PM (mb+j8)

337 301 This particular woman are not unattractive (not that it makes any difference if they were), but it's just lunacy for the lawyer to claim that not getting a cake from that bakery would cause weight gain as well as loss of appetite. It's like they just decided to go alphabetically, make up complaints and didn't bother being concerned that some of the claims contradicted each other
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2015 02:24 PM (DXzRD)


I was about to talk about pleading in the alternative, which is a common and legitimate (albeit confusing at time) practice. Then I looked at the discovery response. The list is some cut and paste bullshit form. They didn't even customize it to the complainants - see, e.g., "not wanting husband to touch her." If I was the attorney for Sweetcakes I'd tee this up for sanctions.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2015 02:37 PM (2Ojst)

338 The Onion reads more like legit journalism these days than outlets considered legit journalism.

http://is.gd/p5gqT5
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 01, 2015 02:34 PM (/kI1Q)

And interestingly, has offered more actual criticism via satire of current events than any of our Republican politicians has. I've always seen the Onion as a leftwing satire rag that only mocks rightwing ideas. I am surprised to see otherwise, of late.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:37 PM (sPp6M)

339 I don't know why folks are surprised that Obama despises America. It's the number one qualification to be a Democrat these days.

Posted by: Null at May 01, 2015 02:38 PM (Cl5hV)

340
A perfect opportunity for the Senate to say "screw the Iran deal".

Ha ha, I crack myself up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 01, 2015 02:38 PM (ODxAs)

341 Yet another problem that could be easily taken care of with a few DECISIONS.

But no.

President present as usual lets the wound fester until amputation is needed then claims victory while the amputee's reality only gets more hellish.

TFG is dangerously stupid.

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 01, 2015 02:39 PM (MV2jA)

342 The complaints are to claim damages. Not much of a jackpot if you win and you have no damages to claim. So they gin up crap with headaches, insomnia, weight gain, lost of consortium, etc.

Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:40 PM (iQIUe)

343 >>>> My review of Age of Ultron: at no point in the movie did I care what happens next.

I just want to know if Ultron picked on Molly Ringwald through the whole movie and did Andrew McCarthy act like a gentleman, then what happened with Duckie at the end.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:40 PM (3ZtZW)

344 11
Unfortunately this has been going on longer than Obama. Witness the shenanigans going on off the coast of Somalia.



Apparently nothing can be done because something something black people.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

The Somali's are rouge elements not represented by any goverment or country, the red guard on the other hand is.

When is it time to wage war against tyrants both foreign and domestic?

I do believe that the header at the top of this blog makes that very statement.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 01, 2015 02:40 PM (4CRfK)

345 Washington (CNN)U.S. Navy warships accompanied four U.S.-flagged vessels through the Strait of Hormuz Thursday, beginning a new military operation to offer armed protection from potential harassment by Iran's navy, a U.S. defense official told CNN.

The ships transiting the strait were both inbound to the Persian Gulf and also outbound into the North Arabian Sea, and they traveled without incident. All four unarmed vessels were military supply and survey ships either operated by the U.S. Military Sealift Command or under contract to the command.

The official said the Pentagon will not be providing daily details on transits or the warships in the area because the U.S. "does not want to establish a pattern of life" for observers in the area.

Posted by: David Byttow at May 01, 2015 02:41 PM (e8kgV)

346 I would start sinking Iranian vessels claiming that they were all Iranian Guard and we were just helping the legitimate gov't maintain control.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 01, 2015 02:41 PM (nRvEn)

347 TFG is dangerously stupid.
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 01, 2015 02:39 PM (MV2jA)

Calling Obama stupid is one of my pet peeves. The guy wins almost everything. He and his are steamrolling us and ours. If he is stupid, what does that make us?

He is evil. He is malicious. He is un-American. He is a traitor. He is all kinds of things but he is not stupid.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:42 PM (sPp6M)

348 I have a good idea!!! We need to give Iran all of their impounded money. They will make bombs with it and that damn Bibi can suck it.

make it so Jarrett.

Posted by: president obama with autopen at May 01, 2015 02:43 PM (wkuqO)

349
To: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation
I am forwarding your comments to Michelle Obama to let her know what you just said about our Presdent of Colora !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 01, 2015 02:43 PM (Sd++4)

350 So this is America, where our government lies to us on behalf of a fanatical regime of an alien religion which has sworn to destroy us.
**
well, yeah, since our president dinkins learned his morals from a cocktail party in 1993, he's got a head full of legitimate grievances. You know, because the crusades. Plus, Rumsfeld did something with Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war. So we have it coming.

so he is lazy and boring and hates this country

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 01, 2015 02:44 PM (qyobn)

351
I think Iran sinking those fake US ships scared Oblahblah.

Cause he's a pussy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 01, 2015 02:44 PM (ODxAs)

352 I just want to know if Ultron picked on Molly Ringwald through the whole movie and did Andrew McCarthy act like a gentleman, then what happened with Duckie at the end.

Ultron dumped Duckie into the volcano after he grabbed the One Ring.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 01, 2015 02:44 PM (DT3rQ)

353 And it begins.

Presidential Advisor Al Sharpton is demanding a Federal Police Force.

Get ready for a whole lot of that from theProgs.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 01, 2015 02:44 PM (7ObY1)

354 349
To: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation
I am forwarding your comments to Michelle Obama to let her know what you just said about our Presdent of Colora !!!!!


He will be getting a visit.

Posted by: president obama at May 01, 2015 02:44 PM (wkuqO)

355 or the other option is that he's really just a muzzie manchurian, which I always thought was an insane idea until about last year

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 01, 2015 02:45 PM (qyobn)

356 Ultron dumped Duckie into the volcano after he grabbed the One Ring.

And it turns out Duckie was a sled.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 01, 2015 02:45 PM (/kI1Q)

357 342 The complaints are to claim damages. Not much of a jackpot if you win and you have no damages to claim. So they gin up crap with headaches, insomnia, weight gain, lost of consortium, etc.
Posted by: Bruce J. at May 01, 2015 02:40 PM (iQIUe)

Lawyers who do this aren't doing their clients any favors. Claiming loss of consortium allows opposing counsel to ask all manners of invasive questions about your sex life, so if it's not a legitimate claim, you really shouldn't make it.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (2Ojst)

358 Good luck trying to get the sheriffs of this country to go along with that.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (OsWis)

359 >>> a Federal Police Force.

Ominous. A seriously bad idea. Etc.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)

360 355 or the other option is that he's really just a muzzie manchurian, which I always thought was an insane idea until about last year
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at May 01, 2015 02:45 PM (qyobn)

I also no longer think this is insane.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (sPp6M)

361 if I recall, they didn't want Sharpton there either, but the Mayor invited him.

-
Sharpton is an irresistible force AND an immovable object. He doesn't smell so good, either.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (XUKZU)

362 No worries everyone, Obama is just setting the stage for the Angels of the Apocalypse. Can't have blood in the water if we protect them, what a stupid old timey white concept:

From that long forgotten hit, the book of Revelation

"3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood."

Posted by: Probably overlooked at May 01, 2015 02:47 PM (27BfC)

363 Sharpton looks like a burnt q-tip.

Creepy-looking bastard.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 02:48 PM (OsWis)

364 Sharpton looks like a chicken with the feathers plucked. Did he always have a head too big for that little body when he was fat? Those f'n teeth OMFG.

Posted by: president obama at May 01, 2015 02:48 PM (wkuqO)

365 A federal police force?

Don't we already have the military? Obama already has his hand-picked generals and admirals running things. The rest should be easy.

Posted by: Hank at May 01, 2015 02:49 PM (mb+j8)

366 359 >>> a Federal Police Force.

Ominous. A seriously bad idea. Etc.
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)



We have to call it something. Let's have a show of hands. Would you prefer the Gestapo or the Stasi?

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2015 02:49 PM (zoehZ)

367 358 Good luck trying to get the sheriffs of this country to go along with that.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 02:46 PM (OsWis)

I take it you are referring to the federal police force idea? A big part of the expressed concern on this blog is all of the officers who knowingly follow bad orders (See Wisconsin's Shame, and also the stand down orders to let it burn in Baltimor). I realize that county sheriffs may be different than municipal police, but I can't imagine they are entirely different. A lot of them here in Central/SouthCentral Texas are staunch Democrats, and I have zero faith that they would resist.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:49 PM (sPp6M)

368 Really, if they do attempt to nationalize the police forces of the land that IS the same as the Soviet Internal Troops.

Posted by: Bigby's Finger Pointing to the Future at May 01, 2015 02:49 PM (3ZtZW)

369
As your Commander-In-Chief... I am your Commander-In-Chief... Commander-In-Chief!!!
If I repeat it enough I almost believe it myself.

Posted by: Hussein the Magnificent, your Commander-In-Chief!!! at May 01, 2015 02:49 PM (wAQA5)

370 Sharpton looks like a muppet.

Posted by: NCKate at May 01, 2015 02:51 PM (DWBxb)

371 Calling Obama stupid is one of my pet peeves. The guy wins almost
everything. He and his are steamrolling us and ours. If he is stupid,
what does that make us?



Soros is playing us like a Harp from Hell - Obama couldn't find his ass with both hands and cartoon level instructions.

I never thought I would live long enough to see actual James Bond Supervillains in the the world, but there have been two of them: Osama Bin Laden and Soros.

Posted by: An Observation at May 01, 2015 02:51 PM (2RQjS)

372
I am a military genius, a foreign policy expert, and sooper negotiator!
Now how much did you say I can get that hotel room for?

Posted by: Hussein the Magnificent, your Commander-In-Chief!!! at May 01, 2015 02:51 PM (wAQA5)

373 Is it okay for me to put ham and swiss on Jewish rye?

As long as you trim the crust.

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2015 02:52 PM (DL2i+)

374 Oh, yay...Communists proudly marching up Federal St. chanting nonsense.

Posted by: Long Duc at May 01, 2015 02:52 PM (h4vJk)

375 The Obama Youth Alpha Omega clip still makes me chuckle though. I would love to know where these yoots ended up.


http://tinyurl.com/k85opgc

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:52 PM (fWAjv)

376 "Sharpton looks like a muppet."

Damn.....
What we do to you?

Posted by: Muppets Union, Local 312 at May 01, 2015 02:52 PM (VPLuQ)

377
If he is stupid, what does that make us?
..................
Wut?

Posted by: Obama Voter at May 01, 2015 02:53 PM (wAQA5)

378 I ordered a carburetor rebuild kit for my Echo SRM 2100 string trimmer from Amazon. I am really anxious for it to get here.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:53 PM (sPp6M)

379 Off, comic Asian sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2015 02:53 PM (h4vJk)

380 Sambo,

I too live in Central Texas, and the sheriff of my country will not go for that.

True, just like everything else, there will be those that fall in line out of a myriad of reasons...and there will be those that will not.

That is when things start to get real interesting real quick.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 01, 2015 02:53 PM (OsWis)

381 I think it's the fat little dumpling kid leading the pack that makes me LOL.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2015 02:54 PM (fWAjv)

382 A muppet with AIDS maybe.

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (wAQA5)

383 Nood

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (4CRfK)

384 Fuck the commies. Today is also Law Day, which commemorates the sealing of the Magna Carta, one of the blueprints for the Declaration of Independence, US Constitution and Bill of Rights. 2015 is the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta. Let's celebrate individual freedom and inalienable rights and tell the commie shitstains to go blow a goat!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (2Ojst)

385 You don't professionalize until you federalize.

Posted by: Tom Daschle at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (W5DcG)

386 "346
I would start sinking Iranian vessels claiming that they were all
Iranian Guard and we were just helping the legitimate gov't maintain
control.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 01, 2015 02:41 PM (nRvEn)"

The Iranians don't really have all that many ships. Certainly not much in the way of prizes for letter of marque privateers. It would not be all that good an idea to attack their port facilities because their main oil customer is China and with all the other problems, it would be a bad idea to piss of the Chinese as well right now.

Iranian infrastructure might make a reasonable target if the US were sufficiently peeved. Knocking out the Iranian electrical distribution system would make life more unpleasant for the Iranians. Blowing up the gas compressors that supply the CNG for their cars would also make life difficult for the Iranians and have few consequences outside of Iran. Doing either of those things would probably require destroying the Iranian air defense system first and that job got a lot more difficult with the delivery of Russian S-300 missiles. Of course, if you destroy the air defense system then you might as well then use deep penetration bunker busters to blow up the Iranian nuclear bomb program.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (KDbAT)

387 Claiming loss of consortium

I'd a talked myself into a contempt if I'd have made it to voir dire last year.

Slip + fall wrecked wife knee.

Dood,
You said til death do us part,
not til she can't do doggie style.

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2015 02:56 PM (DL2i+)

388 Soros is playing us like a Harp from Hell - Obama couldn't find his ass with both hands and cartoon level instructions.

I never thought I would live long enough to see actual James Bond Supervillains in the the world, but there have been two of them: Osama Bin Laden and Soros.
Posted by: An Observation at May 01, 2015 02:51 PM (2RQjS)

Maybe. Maybe that's true but I doubt it. Competent people (Soros in your equation) do not keep incompetent people (Obama) around, particularly in places of power. They just don't. Because they realize that incompetency is completely unpredictable. You have no idea what they will do out of incompetence that will entirely derail your work.

I agree with you about Bin Laden and Soros.

Posted by: Sambo at May 01, 2015 02:57 PM (sPp6M)

389
Presidential Advisor Al Sharpton is demanding a Federal Police Force.
................................
That's what we need, a bunch of cops sitting around all day looking at porn and shitting in the hallways.

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2015 02:57 PM (wAQA5)

390 387 Claiming loss of consortium

I'd a talked myself into a contempt if I'd have made it to voir dire last year.

Slip + fall wrecked wife knee.

Dood,
You said til death do us part,
not til she can't do doggie style.
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2015 02:56 PM (DL2i+)

Reduced BJ options too.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2015 02:58 PM (2Ojst)

391 Obama is like a loving father who will use tough love to make the stubborn kids grow up. His refusal to use great power with great responsibility makes other countries prepare for the Post-American World He is initiating. If the rest of the world wants free seas they can send their navies to do it. If they don't want nuclear proliferation they can... oh, wait a minute. Don't get me started on those Jews.

Posted by: Retaking the Turing Test at May 01, 2015 03:02 PM (EQLe+)

392 Where's Stephen Decatur when you need him?

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2015 03:02 PM (pkqtv)

393 As long as you trim the crust.

Posted by: DaveA


Heh.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 01, 2015 03:05 PM (/Ho8c)

394 12 He loves moose limbs and moose cocks. He hates America. Marriage made in Paradise.

Also, for lunch, bacon and egg sandwiches with a bit of cheese and green onion on toasted swedish rye, I've got plenty, ya'll drop by...
Posted by: OG CELTIC AMERICAN at May 01, 2015 12:52 PM (ASn1R)

Speaking of that I had moose roast for lunch. Delicious. Seriously.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 01, 2015 03:17 PM (xNkaN)

395 389
Presidential Advisor Al Sharpton is demanding a Federal Police Force.
................................
That's what we need, a bunch of cops sitting around all day looking at porn and shitting in the hallways.

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2015 02:57 PM (wAQA5)


A Federal Police Force???? what a GREAT IDEA!!!

Posted by: J Edgar Hoover, 1924 at May 01, 2015 03:18 PM (qh617)

396 Maybe. Maybe that's true but I doubt it. Competent people (Soros in
your equation) do not keep incompetent people (Obama) around,
particularly in places of power. They just don't. Because they realize
that incompetency is completely unpredictable. You have no idea what
they will do out of incompetence that will entirely derail your work.



That is why Soros has Valerie Jarret to ride herd on Obama. What did the left need in a president? 1. Large head - like all famous people. 2. Reasonably good at reading a teleprompter. 3. Historic First Black Man. 4. A finger puppet to absorb the right's ire.

Incompetency is completely predictable: you know they'll screw things up - if screwing things up is what you are after - who could do it better? Soros wants the kind of chaos he has profited from in other parts of the world.

Posted by: An Observation at May 01, 2015 03:18 PM (2RQjS)

397 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 01, 2015 02:55 PM (KDbAT)

Gamed this out a few years ago... with people who would know...

200 Airstrikes could cripple the Iranian Economy.

Bridges... Energy infrastructure... Dams... Data Centers.

Posted by: J Edgar Hoover, 1924 at May 01, 2015 03:20 PM (qh617)

398 NOT A MUSLIM. Nope no way no how. NA NA NA NA NA. I don't want to hear about how Obama is a muslim from you. He's not. NOT A MUSLIM you hear me?

Posted by: james at May 01, 2015 05:21 PM (rVEMe)

399 Factually incorrect article. Did Obama do enough? Debatable. Did he do nothing? The US Navy is now escorting US ships through the strait in order to secure them.

Posted by: Stone at May 01, 2015 05:50 PM (2u11t)

400 Iran has shown the world that Obama, and by extension the USA, will not stand up for our closest allies, countries that are nearly states. Obama won't stand up for the Marshal Islands and if he won't protect them, he sure as shit won't protect Taiwan, Poland, Japan, Germany, or anyone else that considers the USA their pre-Obama ally.

Our allies know we could elect an idiot like Obama at any time and this means they know that the USA can never be counted on for more than four to eight years at a time ever again. Good job Obama.

Posted by: wodun at May 01, 2015 06:57 PM (DD0s8)

401 Kind of makes one wonder where all the bazillion $5 credit card donations to Obama's election have come from.

It could have come from most any collection of thugs and pirates who are now blackmailing OKing into all sorts of handouts and other nonsense...

Meanwhile, on the home front -- the RINOsaurs are too busy brown-nosing cronies for their own stinking power interests to care about such large pile of small potatoes...

Posted by: Seipherd at May 01, 2015 10:45 PM (YcFy3)

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