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US Growth Slows to 0.2% Annualized GDP Growth, Also Known as "Recessionary Nongrowth"
A negative growth rate is actually the definition of a recession, of course, but these things often have to first cross an almost-zero threshold before plunging officially into negative territory.
Via @comradearthur -- Obama's Miracle Economy continues to astound.The U.S. economy ground nearly to a halt in the first three months of the year, according to government data released Wednesday morning, as exports plunged and severe winter weather helped keep consumers indoors. The gross domestic product grew between January and March at an annualized rate of 0.2 percent, the U.S. Commerce Department said, adding to the picture of an economy braking sharply after accelerating for much of last year. The pace fell well shy of the 1 percent mark anticipated by analysts and marked the weakest quarter in a year. The economy had expanded at a rate of 2.2 percent in the final three months of 2014 and at a rate of 2.4 percent for the year.Which is itself a horrible rate of "growth." But Obama declared victory over one quarter of good growth (I think the 2nd quarter 2014), and the media of course declared him officially "Back." Consumer confidence -- which is far too high, thanks to media cheerleading -- already took a tumble after recent disappointing job growth, and will undoubtedly fall further still now that the economy is in a pre-recessionary funk. The WaPo's Chico Harlan also casts doubt on Obama's favorite excuse for a terrible economy -- that it's all the weather.
To be sure, the weather in some parts of the country between January and March was really bad. Boston got crushed by snow. So did Chicago. In the Northeast, this was the coldest winter in 30 years. But the tie between weather and economic performance is often overstated, according to the small number of experts who’ve searched for a correlation. In fact, the data shows that only a few slices of the economy -- manufacturing and construction, namely --can be hurt by a brutal winter. Retail sales, to a much lesser extent, can also feel a pinch. But weather alone won’t bring a humming economy to a halt.... In a paper released recently by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, two researchers concluded that the effect of weather "is not very large." The effect, they added, is certainly not large enough to explain what happened a year ago, when a 2.2 percent contraction in the quarter lasting from January through March coincided with a particularly brutal winter. Yes, remember that winter? It was actually a lot like this one. An Artic cold front froze much of the country, cancelling flights, closing schools and leading to a series of record lows. Initially, analysts were careful about drawing a connection to the economy; the slowdown was "in part" related to weather, the Federal Reserve said. But as the months passed, and the U.S. economy rebounded during the spring and summer, the narrative changed. It became "folk wisdom" that the winter storms led almost directly to the contraction, the Chicago Fed researchers wrote.Gee, I wonder how it became "folk wisdom." Maybe because virtually every media voice was echoing Obama's spin. I definitely recommend this piece. I do not think I've read a single other piece in the media debunking the constant "It unexpectedly snowed in winter" excuse from this Administration and its media Spirit Squad.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 29, 2015 01:06 PM (Bn6aD)
historic!
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:08 PM (1BhJn)
Ace, what are your thoughts on the historic! Orioles vs White Sox game on now?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:08 PM (1BhJn)
Posted by: Old Hob at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (VRc/p)
Posted by: maddogg at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (RD7QR)
question: did MLB cancel games during the L.A. riots?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (1BhJn)
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 29, 2015 01:10 PM (KhFZp)
Posted by: The MFM at April 29, 2015 01:10 PM (h4vJk)
It's okay because obama's unemployment rate is also 0.2%.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:10 PM (1BhJn)
Unfortunately, I didn't get any Global Warming, goddammit.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 29, 2015 01:11 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 01:11 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 01:11 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: Old Hob at April 29, 2015 01:11 PM (VRc/p)
Posted by: Daybrother at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (gwaWp)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: NCKate at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (/boIw)
They keep putting out these lying numbers but factory closings tell the true story
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (wlDny)
nonfarm payroll, effectively it's -1.2%
Posted by: admiral marcus at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (0u/CC)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (a42f0)
The only thing that woulda made the Orioles game even more historically perfect is if obama or the stupid mayor threw out the first pitch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (1BhJn)
everyone knows we have the lowest debt to gdp ever and that gdp is growing and that only whackjob nuts don't believe official government numbers and proclamations about weather in relation to gdp
Posted by: Mr Foo Foo at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (LA7Cm)
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That and taxing the rain.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (XUKZU)
Our American MFM makes Tass and Pravda look like pillars of truth telling.
Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (rwI+c)
UNEXPECTEDLY !
Should a Republican win the WH in 2016, the word 'unexpectedly' will disappear from data reports and any bad news will be directly attributable to his poor leadership and bad policies.
Posted by: McCool at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (nCSwS)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Dr Gorgonzola at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (H4y6S)
Wait until Friday. Local economy will get re-stimulated.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: the Truth at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (PGh+Q)
Case in point, right now on Facebook, friends of "friends" are crowing about how awesome and brilliant and smart Obama is, how much they loved his nerd prom antics and how lucky we've been to have him.
For half of the country, nothing diminishes their devotion to this ass clown. Nothing!
Posted by: Kensington at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (7Kbxu)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:09 PM (1BhJn)
Yes - 4 Dodgers games, though all were made up with doubleheaders. The Dodgers tried to get at least the 3-game Expos series played in San Diego as part of a doubleheader series with the Padres, but that fell through.
The NBA also moved both the Lakers' Game 4 playoff (to Las Vegas) and the Clippers' Game 4 playoff (to Anaheim).
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: anon a mouse at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (KnbYp)
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (YYJjz)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (rwI+c)
I turned the channel.
Posted by: maddogg at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: MSM at April 29, 2015 01:15 PM (VRc/p)
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 01:15 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:15 PM (cL79m)
to be replaced with totes expected. Cereal youse guys!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:15 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:15 PM (fOOY1)
When I was a kid sometimes the Red sox would have "give away those cute little wooden miniature bats" day or whatever they called it.
In Baltimore they have give away masks and rocks day at Orioles games.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (1BhJn)
yeah, they'll admit that on january 21, 2017, depending on who wins.
If it's a republican, then his election caused the recession /depression retroactively back to '09.
and like I've pointed out before, if gdp = government spending + consumer spending + business investment (yes, simplified formula, I know), what are we really measuring when government spending goes up by $1 Trillion and we're pumping $80 billion a month in federal reserve "easing" in to the economy?
As in, you can have GDP growth while the private sector is being killed as long as you pump up the I and G to make up for the lost C (consumer spending).
And GDP is a stupid way to measure economic health anyways. Spending does not equal growth or health. It just equals spending. Loose correlation between GDP and economic "health"
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:14 PM (rwI+c)
I thought it was Wreckovery Summer VII (2009-2015).
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (a42f0)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
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I don't know why that is funny but I LOL'd.
Posted by: Daybrother at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (gwaWp)
question: did MLB cancel games during the L.A. riots?
they were in late april so the season hadn't started yet i believe or if it had started they might have been out of town
Posted by: kj at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (MYCIw)
If US inventories, already at record high levels, and with the inventory to sales rising to great financial crisis levels, had not grown by $121.9 billion and merely remained flat, US Q1 GDP would not be 0.2%, but would be -2.6%.
Posted by: WreckOvery at April 29, 2015 01:17 PM (uingK)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 01:17 PM (wkuqO)
Oh. Sorry. That was 12% not 0.2%.
Never mind.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:17 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:17 PM (rwI+c)
At this rate, Obama's never going to get a chance to shine!
Posted by: The Left at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (7Kbxu)
I turned the channel.
Saw that too. Off went that bunch of crap 'Science."
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (a42f0)
Reality? (Or maybe Grexit.)
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:16 PM (a42f0)
_________
Which economic "experts" exactly? Every week some "expert" will predict that something really big is about to happen. And if you send him $19.95, he'll send you his newsletter which explains it all.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (0LHZx)
Orioles have little gas can day.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (1BhJn)
Everybody knows depressions are in black & white.
Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (zoehZ)
Okay I laughed...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 29, 2015 01:18 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: maddogg at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: NCKate at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (V5sFa)
Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand.
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (fOOY1)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (0x/TW)
Everybody knows depressions are in black & white.
ISWYDT. Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (Yfo5v)
Any one in touch with the real economy is quite aware that the nation is in its sixth year of recession with no end in sight.
Many others are sort of subliminally aware of this but have not yet made the leap to understanding that the government and media (birm) are boldface lying to them all the time.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (go6ud)
experts he has been reading are predicting some major upheaval around
September this year. Anyone know what they are referring to?
Posted by: Grey Fox
Autumn.
Posted by: pep at April 29, 2015 01:20 PM (GMG6W)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:12 PM (a42f0)
I have a friend who is a heavy equipment service tech. He is working a god awful number of hours per week because it is cheaper for his employer to pay him double and triple overtime than it is to put on a second field service tech.
He is getting hammered by income taxes. And he's killing himself working so hard.
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 01:20 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: maddogg at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (xWW96)
Via ZeroHedge:
If US inventories, already at record high levels, and with the inventory to sales rising to great financial crisis levels, had not grown by $121.9 billion and merely remained flat, US Q1 GDP would not be 0.2%, but would be -2.6%.
Posted by: WreckOvery at April 29, 2015 01:20 PM (uingK)
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:20 PM (fOOY1)
Posted by: prescient11 at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: The Media at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (8/DeP)
Thinking about this the other day. With water restrictions all over Cali, Texas, few yards growing in the summer, ag fields laying fallow due to lack of water, etc, what are all those undocs going to be doing for a living?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (ty633)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Soothsayer
********************************************************
Instead of a baseball, a brick.
Catcher is already in riot gear.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (Yfo5v)
This I assure you will jump start this countries flaccid economic engine.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (M+ldm)
Posted by: Gov't Motors at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (JO9+V)
Incidentally, I just bought an Igloo brand mini fridge for an extra fridge. It's tiny (2.6 cu ft) but it's super cold and whisper quiet.
I paid $99 for it at WalMart. Plus $6 tax. Free shipping to my door for $106!
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (1BhJn)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM (vg8iE)
Nothing. I mean, we all see the warning signs, but no one has any idea on how long we can play the print the money, pass the debt along game before it implodes. Depressing thought: maybe decades.
Anyways, Euro debt has been trading at negative interest rates, which has a lot of people worried. Because that means the "smart money" would rather lose money by buying German bonds at -1% interest then risk their money by investing in the "real" economy.
No idea if that'll end up being a big deal or not. Hard to say.
Anyone who says they can predict anything economically is lying -- we're talking about interactions of billions of people. People are unpredictable. Events are unpredictable. Shit sometimes just happens. And sometimes when you think shit will happen, it doesn't.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:22 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:22 PM (mf5HN)
With water restrictions all over Cali, Texas, few yards growing in the summer, ag fields laying fallow due to lack of water, etc, what are all those undocs going to be doing for a living?
voting democrat
Posted by: kj at April 29, 2015 01:22 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Ssssssssssss at April 29, 2015 01:22 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Professor Dr. MuuMuu, Financial Genius, 4 weeks ago at April 29, 2015 01:22 PM (9Z8lH)
What would King ShitMidas do if he didn't have global warming and Booooosh to blame for all his failures?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (8ZskC)
**************************************************************Instead of a baseball, a brick.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 01:19 PM (0x/TW)
Bricker-bracker
Fire-cracker.
Sis! Boom! Bah!
Bugs Bunny!
Bugs Bunny!
Rah! RAH! RAH!!!!!
Posted by: Bugs Bunny (C/LF/RF/P/3B/CF/1B/SS/2B) at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (cL79m)
I bought a new GM about this time last year for that very reason. Vowed never to and didn't really care to trade but they made a stupid deal and I couldn't turn it down.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (LA7Cm)
I do not think I've read a single other piece in the media debunking the constant "It unexpectedly snowed in winter" excuse from this Administration and its media Spirit Squad.
The sun has, unexpectedly, been rising in the East for a statiscally implausible succession of days, thus accounting for the economic slowdown.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (kff5f)
I understand they say it rains down in Africa.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (kff5f)
How many meaty venomous spiders would have to amass in order to turn this economy around?
Posted by: Kensington at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (7Kbxu)
Dunno, except he said that it was more than one. I guess I can just ask...
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (a42f0)
up the country but how impervious to that his cult members are."
I'll occasional come across a tweeter who posts "proof" of how America has had better economies under Dem presidents, and I can't press the mute button fast enough.
Everything is always okay, AND (not or) everything wrong is some other's fault.
Posted by: Shoot Me at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (EQcfE)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:21 PM
He does look hot in uniform...
Posted by: Reggie Love at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (kff5f)
implausible succession of days, thus accounting for the economic
slowdown.
Roosters cause economic slowdowns.
Posted by: pep at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (GMG6W)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (rwI+c)
Except for one Mr. Moo Moo. He's a market phenom, making quatloos hand over fist.
Posted by: One handed economist at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (JO9+V)
Broken windows writ large, bitchez!!!!
Posted by: Thomas Friedman, Economic Genius at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: McCool at April 29, 2015 01:13 PM (nCSwS)
Not a bad idea for an ad, actually...
Narrator: would you like to see your government held to account by the media? Put republicans in office and they'll even be held to account for things that aren't their fault.
Posted by: Sambo at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (DSncV)
I understand they say it rains down in Africa.
Mainly on the plain.....
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM
But have you ever seen the rain?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:25 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:26 PM (1BhJn)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 29, 2015 01:26 PM (1BhJn)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:27 PM (Yfo5v)
~The Fed.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:24 PM (kff5f)
Actually, this is expected by the experts to keep the overnight interest rates down in the 0.00%-0.25% until at least September now that June appears to be out of the question.
Personally, interest rates won't rise until and unless a non-DemocRAT is elected President because the primary reason for low interest rates is to keep the cost of borrowing $1 trillion/year down for the federal government.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:27 PM (cL79m)
In fairness, he made more this morning than I made last year.
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:27 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: One handed economist at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (JO9+V)
I too did not read the article, but from what I've seen around the interwebz, I think this is the first draft.
So it will be adjusted down 2 or 3 more times before we get the final (most likely negative) number. But they won't report THAT until the next quarters GDP is out (and is positive). Even if that needs to be revised down later.
They play this game every report.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (AkOaV)
That has been my take on things too. The one thing that might trigger something in the near future would be if the effort to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency bears fruit - since I have been hearing that that is coming together recently I thought that might be what they were referring to.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (a42f0)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (Yfo5v)
Well, if that's the price for truth, all I've got to say is..........OBAMA'S THE GREATEST! IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT! PLEASE FORGIVE ME! IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! WHY DID MY PARENTS NAME ME AFTER A MARX BROTHER? PLEASE DON'T THROW MY RESUME AWAY, CLINTON GLOBAL!!!
Posted by: Chico Harlan at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (DLu2s)
realllly?
Hmm... I may be in the market for a new truck...
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (XUKZU)
The Maple Leafs winning two games in a row at the start of the season.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: NCKate
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I already stopped laughing. I think it was that hysterical laughter that characters in apocalyptic movies get anyway.
A friend and I were talking the other day about some municipalities that will not allow but multi-thousand gallon rainwater cisterns. You MUST buy water from the County citizen and you MUST pay the taxes and fees!
Posted by: Daybrother at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (gwaWp)
Posted by: MSNBC at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (UFjs0)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:27 PM (rwI+c)
Correction: He paid more in taxes this morning than you made all year.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM (8ZskC)
They'd never say they were cheerleading. However, if anyone has the audacity to point out that the economy is terrible, they're immediately accused of using such bad news for gaining partisan points. (Much less sabotaging any recovery by making people feel badly about the economy.)
Posted by: Hal at April 29, 2015 01:29 PM (hmPdt)
and you will then see what the REAL US economy is doing...
Posted by: BB Wolf at April 29, 2015 01:29 PM (qh617)
Posted by: King Barry at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (2Ojst)
has had better economies under Dem presidents, and I can't press the
mute button fast enough.
Everything is always okay, AND (not or) everything wrong is some other's fault."
=======
And they can't WAIT to do it all over again next year! Some are excited about the Smartest Woman Alive Hillary, but most are also fantasizing about their dream candidate Fauxcahontas, and an alarming number are really yearning for Bernie freaking Sanders.
They're crazy!
Posted by: Kensington at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (7Kbxu)
BTW, the federal Conservative government here just sold our feds' GM stocks a few weeks ago.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (kivUY)
Oh. It's the weather this time. Not a tsunami in Japan, or anything like that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (oKE6c)
So, AtC...Horde Update on how Herself is doing post-surgery?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: bernverdnardo at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (w4wAe)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (ODxAs)
(pegs rock through window, for economic stimulus' sake)
Posted by: Every Keynesian economist, ever. at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (mtmZ0)
Yeah.
That's definitely something to keep an eye on. But it's not like there's another, obvious "reserve" currency out there an available.
What some people are worried about is that China, Russia, and the other BRICs have begun trading with each other and other trading partners in *their own currencies* instead of trading in USDs.
Which is really the beginning of the unraveling of the Bretton woods agreement.
I think if the USD and oil ever get seperated from each other, we'll see the rest of our currency house of cards collapse fairly quickly.
But who knows?
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:31 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 29, 2015 01:31 PM (NNYXR)
Posted by: The Economy at April 29, 2015 01:31 PM (rwI+c)
This is a direct result of bummer care cutting into the spending power of the consumer, the biggest part of the economy. But that's the love that dare not speak its name....or something like that.
Posted by: Buckeye Katie at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (1M/xn)
We might as well have a Creedence Clearwater Revival because we sure as hell aren't going to have an economic one.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (XUKZU)
Boehner will switch to vodka, threatening America's bourbon industry.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Lea at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Barack I, Reich Supreme Leader at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: King Barry at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (2Ojst)
Don't be so negative. Think of what he's doing for the funeral industry. Boom times, baby!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (oKE6c)
Ya know, bet you could make a statement just by using the B/W p-shop filter on a few choice photographs and tacking those up on teh twits
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM
What? I thought pants were optional! And stop looking in my window!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (h4vJk)
i think peoples optimism is directly related to how much they have to spend on gas
that one thing
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (zOTsN)
************
Ha ha! He did that hilarious "anger translator" thing with the Key and Peele guy!!! Hahahaha!!!! I've shared it 13 times on Facebook! Hahahahaha!!!!!!
I love him so.
Posted by: Obamanaut at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (wMP+e)
Oh, I know.
I just think it's funny that every quarter (more or less) the Fed comes out singing "Happy Days are Here Again" and claiming that things look good for an interest rate increase- and then fudged (not even the real ones, which are undoubtedly worse) numbers come out that say, "no, no, the economy is still in the crapper."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (0x/TW)
Boehner will switch to vodka, threatening America's bourbon industry.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2015 01:32 PM (8ZskC)
Hillary will switch to rechargeable batteries. Eveready's sales plummet.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
Which is horseshit.
And honestly, if you took out government spending and monetary policy tinkering and recalculated our economic growth and the health of the private sector, I think we'd find negative growth since the '90s if not earlier. Or at least, not positive growth.
Which is part of the dirty little secret on why no level of government can cut spending. They justify it to each other by saying it'll cause a recession. And they're right in a sense. It would "cause" a recession on paper. But I'd argue that "recession" has been going on for a loonnnngggg time
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: george costtanza at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Barack I, Reich Supreme Leader at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (LISuA)
http://tinyurl.com/mo75bub
Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (DQZLr)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (jOumW)
Posted by: the invisible hand at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (Yfo5v)
Haven't polled bernie sanders with them yet but i'll bet they would be just fine with that.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (go6ud)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 01:28 PM
Yeah, the bathroom's on the right.
Posted by: John Fogerty at April 29, 2015 01:35 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:33 PM (kff5f)
They apparently don't realize that by their repeated efforts to jawbone the economy into prosperity they're debasing the currency of their statements.
Among other currencies they're debasing, of course.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 01:35 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Ssssssssssss at April 29, 2015 01:35 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:35 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 01:35 PM (3ZtZW)
I don't believe any statistics this administration produces.
Look at the employment numbers for confirmation. U-6 of only 10.9%?
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (V70Uh)
And that's a bit squirelly too. I see it as low as $2.19 and as high as $2.42 right now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
What? I thought pants were optional! And stop looking in my window!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Sit down! Sit down!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (Yfo5v)
Haven't polled bernie sanders with them yet but i'll bet they would be just fine with that.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2015 01:34 PM (go6ud)
Because this time, finally, they've got the right people! Amirite?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (oKE6c)
Because as sure as Obama blaming bad numbers on "the weather" we can be sure these numbers have been massaged more that All Gore w/a blocked 7th chokra.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (2TN4k)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (zOTsN)
I did.
But I was just using that as the only scenario I could come up with where the system would change information on the application. Set the specific scenario aside for a moment.
Assuming I apply for a loan, and the lender changes my application (for whatever reason) would I not reasonably expect to get to see those changes and either sign off on them (by signing a new or updated form) or not?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (kff5f)
but = building
Posted by: Daybrother at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (Wbbob)
wage growth hasnt kept up with "economic growth" (aka gdp growth) in decades.
Some of that can be explained by illegal immigration... and outsourcing... and other policy issues.
But I'd argue monetary and fiscal policy have been used to hide decades of stagnation in the economy, and "wage growth" is more reflective of our economic health then "GDP growth" is.
Why do you think they have to keep creating bubbles? Tech bubbles, real estate bubbles, "student loan" bubbles, etc. etc. etc. They need to show SOME private sector "growth" even if it later is revealed to not have been real growth.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Barack I, Reich Supreme Leader at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (jOumW)
Fire-cracker.
Sis! Boom! Bah!
Bugs Bunny!
Bugs Bunny!
Rah! RAH! RAH!!!!!
Posted by: Bugs Bunny (C/LF/RF/P/3B/CF/1B/SS/2B) at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (cL79m)
What's the score?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's new in Carrot League baseball today?
Posted by: Chuck Jones at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (JOG+K)
Future Historians will look at this period in history... like we look at Drs who used to bleed people with leeches...
and go... how in the hell could they ever think that???? That Keynes guy was a RETARD...
Posted by: BB Wolf at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (qh617)
>>i think peoples optimism is directly related to how much they have to spend on gas
It can really make a huge difference in your budget though. So I kind of understand.
Posted by: Lea at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (LA7Cm)
The Astros will clinch the pennant for the American League.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2015 01:37 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:36 PM (kff5f)
All potential legal issues aside, it would be a really good idea for all parties to let them see it first.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (2Ojst)
But, it's raining in my heart
Posted by: President Funnyface at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (ty633)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (h4vJk)
Herself was drugged out of her mind last night which was kinda funny. They've already had her up and walking down the hall twice yesterday because we live in an age of miracles.
I haven't been by there today because, for some reason I do not comprehend, I'm a sucker who is working. I'll go by after work.
Today's adventure in parental caretaking was getting in a huge fight this morning with my father as to whether he should drive himself to the hospital to see her, which, hell, no, he shouldn't and I won and winning entailed me feeling like a huge bitch because way to take away my dad's independence.
That was followed by calling around noon to see if he was home or if the friends taking him to the hospital had been by yet and he was and they hadn't and he took the dog out so I didn't have to run back to do that and then I asked him something about dinner and he answered and then he hung up on me. I was all okay so then we'll, Dad, Dad, Dad, omg he hung up on me!
So going to start shooting heroin into my eyeball. So am.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
am I right?
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (0cMkb)
Stormy Weather
Since the forecasts and results ain't together
It keeps stallin' all the time.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (hLRSq)
Stagnate economy and Obama's EPA regulations on coal fired electrical generating operators still hasn't taken effect yet.
Posted by: Jerry Midlist
This. The effects of the War on Coal haven't fully developed.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (/Ho8c)
================
Thanks for that. My hiccups are finally over.
Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Barney Frank at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (fOOY1)
Yes you should.
I used your example as "it shouldn't have been changed".
If it was, there should be a re-sign, or at least a re-initial certifying you have seen the changes.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (Yfo5v)
================
Thanks for that. My hiccups are finally over.
Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (LISuA)
And the projectile vomiting has just begun.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (2Ojst)
All those hedge funds that went long on Greek sovereign debt go bankrupt?
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: The Economy at April 29, 2015 01:31 PM (rwI+c)"
Damn shrinkage.
Funny.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (V70Uh)
That Keynes guy was a RETARD...
Well, yes, but in fairness we're more retarded. Keynes advocated deficit spending in hard times and *paying it back*in good.
We, by which I mean all of we, which means I'm glaring at you George W. TARP, have neglected the paying it back part on a bi-partisan basis.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 29, 2015 01:39 PM (70ves)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
I've about decided I need to start sniffing glue.
Want me to pick some up for you?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (kff5f)
Since 'the weather' has been invoked, I figure here's a good spot to mention that global sea ice extent is at its third highest point since 1981, and antarctic sea ice has just set its 29th consecutive daily average record high:
http://tinyurl.com/q6fv3zb
Maybe all that extra ice is crushing the tectonic plates and causing earthquakes and volcanoes to erupt. Oh wait, no, that's global warming's fault.
My bad. Carry on.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (0DeYj)
http://tinyurl.com/oeb8hx4
Colorado set to raise health exchange fees.
Laissez les bon temps rouler
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (kivUY)
Polar vortex is the cause of the economic slow down.
Polar vortex! And if you have the misfortune of an arctic express cold snap not to mention global warming and climate change and the hottest year ever eleventy!!, you bet your ass you're gonna have economic problems.
Polar vortex. Don't make me go over this again.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (X+nFp)
So we have to constantly worry about the encroachment of liberal overlords and robot overlords...now I have to worry about the threat of animal overlords as well? I can't keep up!
And foxes making sammiches...like wimmen need more competition for jobs!
I keeed, obvs.
But mmm sammich...methinks it's lunchtime.
Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (yRwC8)
Want me to pick some up for you?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (kff5f)
I recommend huffing paint thinner. Kills brain cells faster.
Posted by: physics geek at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: NCKate at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (V5sFa)
Posted by: Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize Winner at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (LISuA)
See... that's what I thought.
Yet our requirement says exactly the opposite- if the app is changed, the customer is specifically *not* supposed to re-sign it.
Which I'm thinking is bad.
So that's *another* fight I get to have with higher-ups on this project.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:30 PM (kivUY)
So it now is truly UAW Motors now?
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: NCKate at April 29, 2015 01:41 PM (V5sFa)
If you mean shoveling the debris, then yes.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM
*Shoves All The Lemon Squares through the USB*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (h4vJk)
So much conflicting info. Cold weather? Bad for economy. Summer? GLOBAL WARMING!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
That's your answer for everything.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (hLRSq)
Why it's almost as if giving trillions of dollars to Democrat cronies (like Solyndra, unions, etc)-
for bullshit, non-productive
can't stimulate the economy or create jobs.
Huh.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (0cMkb)
Well, in Keynes' defense, even he wasn't THIS retarded.
When he was theorizing, the Brits (and us) were still on a gold standard. So the idea was to save money in "good years" (has he ever met a fucking politician?!) to even out the business cycle in the "bad years", and that the KEY to economic growth is by stimulating aggregate demand.
Which, fine, I mean on paper it sort of sounds good.
But
a) it's a miserable failure, for reasons that Hayek and Friedman and Sowell and dozens of other economists have explained
b) our government has not even followed Keynes theory at all. They liked the "doesnt matter what government spends on, as long as they boost agg demand with it" part, and just ignored the rest.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:42 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: The Menendez Brothers at April 29, 2015 01:43 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (V70Uh)
Well, according to Keynes it would.
He said you could hire people to dig holes, then hire others to fill them in and that that would lead to economic growth. Because then the laborers would have money to spend.
Nancy Pelosi even said food stamps are the best form of economic stimulus, since that money gets spent almost immediately.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Don't get us started.
Posted by: The Menendez Brothers at April 29, 2015 01:43 PM (8ZskC)
I love the Horde.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (kff5f)
Just exactly how the hell is this "freedom of religion"
http://tinyurl.com/mundjnc
When, if this does take effect, the government would clearly be actively limiting the practice of religious activities.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (jOumW)
Which I'm thinking is bad .
Is very bad juju.
They have one contract with xx on it. YOU have a contract with xxx on it.
Slam dunk proof YOU amended it after signing.
Judges take a dim view of that.
(and not YOU, the company)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (Yfo5v)
Come over and talk to my kids, willya?
Posted by: Elderly Eskimo On Drifting Icefloe at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM
A little pick me up:
http://goo.gl/ycSjMN
Posted by: physics geek at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (MT22W)
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (fOOY1)
Nah, I think the US govt still owns some GM stock. Maybe not. I don't know, they were liquidating it on wall street at a loss a while back.
He was referring to the Canadian govt, who also had to take stock in GM and help bail them out.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (AkOaV)
Unpossible! I've been told over and over that no one wants that, only crazypants people think the LBGTQWERTY activists would want such a thing!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Lizzy Borden at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: NCKate
If you mean shoveling the debris, then yes.
But wait! There's more!
If you apply on Saturday, we'll have 10 times the openings!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:46 PM (Yfo5v)
First year Contracts and "meeting of the minds".
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:47 PM (hLRSq)
I don't know who bought it: the company (and therefore the union, as you comment), or just dumping it on the open market where anyone could buy it, or a combination of both.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:47 PM (kivUY)
Keep in mind also that GDP is about 3.5% higher than it would have been
reported prior to the fall of 2013 because they changed how GDP is
measured in some pretty dodgy ways... counting R and D spending as a direct
contributor to GDP, for instance, rather than an intermediate factor of
production as it had always been counted. Also counting government promises to pay pensions instead of just counting pension payments that were actually made (and we can ask pensioners in Detroit if those two are anywhere close to the same thing). So that GDP figure should be a little worse than -3% if they were honestly reporting.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 29, 2015 01:47 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 01:47 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:48 PM (Yfo5v)
*sigh*
Yeah. This is exactly what else I needed on this project which is already 2 months behind (oh, we don't even have all the requirements yet. It's supposed to go live mid-June and I don't have all the requirements yet). A fight with the business explaining to them that they really *really* need to run this by Legal before they stand by the requirement.
Glue. Sniffing.
Or maybe I'll borrow some of AtC's heroin.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:48 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2015 01:48 PM (l3vZN)
go lie down in a cool dark place
I thought we were doing 'rain' lyrics?
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:48 PM (fOOY1)
Honestly reporting?
Eh...
It's government, they make up their own rules. They tweak and adjust their formulas constantly.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:49 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 29, 2015 01:49 PM (wMP+e)
Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2015 01:49 PM (7ObY1)
Hoo hoo hoo lookin' out my back door.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 01:27 PM (Yfo5v)
Hi there!
Posted by: John Fogarty's Tapeworm at April 29, 2015 01:49 PM (Txrlv)
The last time a Dem president was criticized by the Media was Jimmy Carter. The last time a Dem candidate was criticized by the Media was Michael Dukakis.
Whoever the Dem nominee is will win the White House. A) the Media is unashamedly in their corner and the masses are too stupid to think on their own, and B) the GOP has demonstrated they have no spine.
Posted by: Null at April 29, 2015 01:50 PM (xjpRj)
Harbinger prophecy predicts fiscal collapse cause by disobeying God's directives (end of seven cycles of shmita). Isaiah 9:10
Posted by: harbinger at April 29, 2015 01:50 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Garrett at April 29, 2015 01:50 PM (fOOY1)
Posted by: John Boehner, Slicing Like a Fuckin' Hammer at April 29, 2015 01:51 PM (8ZskC)
...does everyone forget that they already use some super secret "seasonal adjustment" formula for all of the numbers they release anyways?
So this winter is being adjusted based on last winter and the winter before that, etc. etc. so you cant really blame "snow in the winter" for bad GDP numbers, ESPECIALLY when you're already "adjusting" for the season.
They do the same shit with the unemployment numbers.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:51 PM (AkOaV)
He was referring to the Canadian govt, who also had to take stock in GM and help bail them out.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:45 PM (AkOaV)
The Treasury Department liquidated their position a couple years back.
I knew the Canadians had a position in Government Motors; I didn't know it took them until now to liquidate said position.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:51 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: John Fogerty at April 29, 2015 01:51 PM (7ObY1)
You're good people. AtC. Good luck handling everything and we are here if you need major venting sessions.
And work, taking up valuable time? Blasphemy!
Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2015 01:52 PM (yRwC8)
I don't know about that but I swear they've cut the alcohol content of my bottom shelf vodka I bought on Sunday.
It's tough to watch your country burn because their are no leaders left. Only hate filled people pointing their fingers at others.
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 29, 2015 01:52 PM (xQX/f)
He said you could hire people to dig holes, then hire others to fill them in and that that would lead to economic growth. Because then the laborers would have money to spend.
Nancy Pelosi even said food stamps are the best form of economic stimulus, since that money gets spent almost immediately.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)
Yeah, I've been singualrly unimpressed with Keynes and his "Après moi, le déluge" theories of economics.
But, then again he was gay so his concern for the future and future generations was summed up by his quote "In the end, we're all dead."
He was simply another throne-sniffer grubbing influence by telling politicians what they wanted to hear. i.e.. feckless public debt is the awesome.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2015 01:48 PM (l3vZN)
Ready for Elsa 2016!!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (hLRSq)
Be sure to watch our three hour special on this tonight!
Posted by: MSNBC at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (UFjs0)
one college kid joked that Jeb is only getting to run for President because he is a "legacy" (frat humor)
I dont think eith Jeb or Hillary will be the next president
and one thing all young people hate is being told what to do
they are sick of the campus harpies and the do goodniks telling everyone how to think and behave
I know youg people do not vote, and I dont think they will come out for Hillary like they did for the JEF. She only stimulates the old biddy vote
I think this election is wide open
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Democrat Primary Voters at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (LISuA)
I lahk da way yaou tawk.
I lahk da way yaou wawk,
lahk da way yaou talk,
Posted by: Jawn Fogartey at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:47 PM (kivUY)
The UAW had a plurality stake in GM once the US Treasury started liquidating their stake. It was all part of the deal to give the UAW an 80% profit from driving GM into bankruptcy.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:54 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Flounder at April 29, 2015 01:54 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM<<<
You'll shoot your eye out, kid.
Posted by: Mrs. Parker, Miss Shields, creepy mall Santa at April 29, 2015 01:54 PM (1FyZ2)
Posted by: Barry at April 29, 2015 01:55 PM (kQBSd)
11 million new pre-citizens will have no impact on unemployment numbers, - for the remainder of Obama's reign.
Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2015 01:55 PM (ty633)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:55 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 29, 2015 01:55 PM (jOumW)
Posted by: Barry at April 29, 2015 01:55 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (kivUY)
You can protect yourself if you follow this one weird trick...
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (hLRSq)
Embedded IN someone?
Hold the lit end of a cigarette on their asses for a few seconds. They will drop right off.
If you don't smoke, use a drop of gasoline.
Whatever you do, do NOT pull them off. The head stays in the skin and gets infected.
Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (LA7Cm)
__________
Dude, you bought a GM product. And you're calling others stupid? LOL
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (0x/TW)
I've about decided I need to start sniffing glue.
Want me to pick some up for you?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (kff5f)
Yes, please.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: X at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (UqJ2q)
I saw an article linked on Yahoo about how Josh Duggar holds "horrible" views on marriage. His statement was boilerplate defense of marriage. Nothing shocking at all.
Anyway, some poor sap commented "he's right" with his account linked to his facebook page which said he worked for a sheriff's dpt somewhere.
First comment? "Did you post this while at work?"
SJWs. Out to destroy a man's life for two words.
Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2015 01:56 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 29, 2015 01:57 PM (cCxiu)
I believe the exchange was,
"Mr. Keynes, what happens in the long run if government artificially boost agg demand, but consumer spending never picks up?"
"In the long run, we're all dead."
Which at the time everyone thought was such a brilliant thing to say (for some reason).
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 01:57 PM (AkOaV)
silent majority and all that
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 29, 2015 01:58 PM (zOTsN)
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Take away their EBT cards.
Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2015 01:58 PM (VndSC)
It was much politer than saying "In that case then we're F***ed."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 29, 2015 01:57 PM (cCxiu)
It has to drop another 0.1999 points to catch down to savings account interest rates.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (kivUY)
I've about decided I need to start sniffing glue.
Want me to pick some up for you?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 01:40 PM (kff5f)
Dood, how do you do it? I've been huffing this bottle of Elmer's all day long and no buzz. NO. BUZZ.
This sucks. It must be a Tea Party conspiracy.
Posted by: Politico Pajama Boy at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (Txrlv)
Posted by: John Fogerty, what language was I singing in? at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM
Please, Hill, Elsa...let it go.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 01:59 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:00 PM (cL79m)
Vasoline works also. Put a dab on them and they will back out. Tick breath through their asses like politicians.
Posted by: Barry at April 29, 2015 02:00 PM (kQBSd)
First, they are not 'unemployed', they are on welfare.
b) what work they do will be in the underground hispanic economy working for cash
iii) the only effect they might have on unemployment is the work they are doing will not be done by someone else who might change status from unemployed to employed part time.
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 02:00 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: wrg500 at April 29, 2015 02:00 PM (kQBSd)
Let's take a step back. Why is the view that marriage is (no "should be" about it) between a man and a woman somehow "horrible?"
You know what a "horrible" view of marriage is? That it's some "social construct" that man just made up. I can think of only a few of the ramifications of that, and none of them are good.
You know what a "horrible" view of marriage is? That women are the literal property of their husbands.
You know what a "horrible" view of marriage is? That girls should be handed out to well-connected rich (mostly old) men as political favors.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:00 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (RD7QR)
The issue was that the holders of GM's (old GM, before the fedgov got involved) bonds ended up having to take pennies on the dollar for their bonds (which are supposed to be secured debt, first priority in bankruptcy court) while union pension funds didn't have to take a hair cut at all, even though they are nowhere near the top of creditors who should get paid.
Obama restructured all of that on his own "to avoid bankruptcy" then after his preferred constituencies got all set up, he fired GMs CEO and GM filed bankruptcy anyways to discharge bad debt.
but if they had gone to bankruptcy court instead of to DC, the union pensions would have been fucked, but the bond holders would have been made whole.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (AkOaV)
Listening to CCR puts me in mind of a line from Jumpin' Jack Flash, as Whoopi's character is trying to decipher the lyrics. "Mick...Mick! Speak English!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (h4vJk)
It's tough to watch your country burn because their are no leaders left. Only hate filled people pointing their fingers at others. ...
...So as to deprive the needy of justice And rob the poor of My people of their rights, So that widows may be their spoil And that they may plunder the orphans. 3Now what will you do in the day of punishment, And in the devastation which will come from afar? To whom will you flee for help? And where will you leave your wealth? 4Nothing remains but to crouch among the captives Or fall among the slain...
Posted by: harbinger at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2015 02:02 PM (LISuA)
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Democrat Primary Voters at April 29, 2015 01:53 PM (LISuA)
I heard somewhere about a product for ticks or fleas that dissolves the outer exoskeleton, leaving the innards exposed. Mebbe check Amazon to see if they can deliver it by the gross to your state capitol? And expedite it to the DC congresscritters ASAP; free 2 day shipping might not be fast enough.
Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (yRwC8)
Well, saying "oh yeah, we'd be totally boned, dude. Lets hope that doesnt happen!" would have been a funnier answer, at least. And more honest.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (kivUY)
Where's the hung-over cat pic?
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2015 02:02 PM (LISuA)
This is true. John McCain is the quintessential Republican.
Which should explain a great deal of the problem.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (kff5f)
Jake Ciely @allinkid · 24m 24 minutes ago
#Orioles Caleb Joseph signing fake autographs and taking fake applause as heads on the field
Not sure how to imbed the vine video but it's pretty funny.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (g1DWB)
Can I get in on this action?
Sounds like fun! Wanna come out an play!!
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at April 29, 2015 02:04 PM (2TN4k)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 02:05 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: The Orioles at April 29, 2015 02:05 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 02:05 PM (kivUY)
silent majority and all that
They will get to find out what "purge" really means.
(hint: two way street)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (Yfo5v)
You need to add a cat pic to your Monty comment, steveegg.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 02:01 PM (kivUY)
Where's the hung-over cat pic?
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (cL79m)
C'mon. You know EXACTLY which cat pic is appropriate.
http://tinyurl.com/a6h94r6
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (Txrlv)
I'll try to explain it, Allen. You see, if you, I, and everyone else in the universe does not cater to the insecurities, hang-ups, emotional discordances, and general neuroses of a near-vanishingly-small segment of the population then it means that we are all evil, mean, nasty hate-filled bigots who should be punished and chastised using the full-force of the law to do so. So unless you want the Twitter mob to descend upon you get to enabling those delusions that this loud, influential, yet surprisingly tiny group has.
Understand, hater?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (hLRSq)
http://tinyurl.com/mm5gpjy
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (B0IEg)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (Yfo5v)
Obama's America, ladies and gents.
On the plus side, if we stop allowing fans at baseball games no one will ever have to suffer again watching Obama bounce a first "pitch" into the plate.
Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Rodney Safetyfield at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (xkSSa)
The broadcasters will get their advertising money.
The stadium vendors. . .
The Vegas bookies get a game to handicap.
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 02:06 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (Txrlv)
========================
Hillary emerges to discuss campaign problems?
Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (uKs7A)
...
So what you're saying is my response should be "F*ck that with a rusty chainsaw."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (kff5f)
Can I get in on this action?
Sounds like fun! Wanna come out an play!!
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at April 29, 2015 02:04 PM (2TN4k)
Piker. I not only atomize the target, but also the very-expensive weapons used to atomize the targets. When I get going, GDP will bea guaranteed $0.00.
Posted by: Global Thermonuclear War at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (cL79m)
Schrodinger's baseball game. You have to enter the stadium to find out if they're all alive. But you can't.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 29, 2015 02:08 PM (xQX/f)
Beautimous! Having a sense of humor is the only way we will survive the (now literal in Baltimore) burning times.
Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2015 02:08 PM (yRwC8)
The Guardian: 'Bizarre' Jurassic dinosaur discovered in remarkable new find
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Hillary emerges to discuss campaign problems?
Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (LISuA)
The Ravage Vista
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:08 PM (Txrlv)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2015 02:09 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2015 02:09 PM (z/Ubi)
Not sure how to imbed the vine video but it's pretty funny.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2015 02:03 PM (g1DWB)
Here we go: http://bit.ly/1zpREHd
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 02:09 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 01:38 PM
Time for a K-Pop intervention from 9Muses
https://youtu.be/n_WTzL507gA
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:09 PM (B0IEg)
weapons used to atomize the targets. When I get going, GDP will bea
guaranteed $0.00.
*sing-song voice*
You don't control me! No one can control me! I'm just gonna happen!!
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (2TN4k)
Take me out to the spree
We'll steal us some peanuts and cracker jack
I don't care if the businesses ever come back!
Let me root, root, root for the anarchists
If they don't burn it's a shame,
For it's one, two, three bricks you're out
At the old riot!
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (g1DWB)
You can not control the economy by tax and spend. It takes the most productive thing out of the economy and throws it into an inflationary fire.
And guess what, the results are the same. The only difference is unemployment and welfare which is keeping people out of the soup lines and apple sales. But that can not last forever.
But the FSA thinks money grows on government trees.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (mf5HN)
That's what I kept hearing in 2012, when my idiot neighbors were telling me why they were voting for Obama again. "It took Bush more than four years to destroy the economy, so it will take Obama more than four years to rebuild it."
Hahahahahahahaha.
Dumbasses.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 29, 2015 02:11 PM (lmdHn)
Posted by: deepred at April 29, 2015 02:11 PM (xv5cf)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:11 PM (oKE6c)
You don't control me! No one can control me! I'm just gonna happen!!
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at April 29, 2015 02:10 PM (2TN4k)
We can't wait for you to decide to pull your head out of your ass. We could be waiting thousands of years for that.
Posted by: Global Thermonuclear War at April 29, 2015 02:12 PM (cL79m)
Global Warming causes harsh winters.
Totes.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:12 PM (kff5f)
That UK beach wear company that put out the ad is now getting bomb threats.
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 29, 2015 02:12 PM (iQIUe)
Is granting statehood an act of love?
Posted by: Furious George at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (kff5f)
http://tinyurl.com/mycaxlc
Posted by: despair at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (/Ho8c)
LOL
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (3ZtZW)
In the movie Baseketball, the Los Angeles team is called the Riots.
Looks like they moved to Baltimore.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (wkuqO)
Is granting statehood an act of love?
Ultimate FU.
As in, "Pay up bitchez!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (B0IEg)
Brought Sarah Frances home from the hospital after three days in the NICU due to meconium (sp) aspiration that had her having a tough time getting the necessary oxygen abosorption in her lungs. Tough on Mom and Dad, but she's home, happy and sleeping pretty much all of the time which is exactly what her big sister did for two weeks...and then hasn't slept through a night since.
Thanks for all the thought and prayers...been a helluva year so far with daughters and hospitals and have hopefully had my fill of them.
Posted by: H Badger at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: OCBill at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (cPg42)
silent majority and all that
You could see it dawning on the Baltimore locals - that this was being instigated and escalated by the professional activists from out of town.
Wonder how many blue cities will go up in flames before the Left decides they've had enough of these once reliable activist agitators - the Commies, the self-appointed race leaders, the MSM hungry to dial it up to "11",etc. - coming in and sh%tting all over their cities and then moving on. No better than locusts.
Certainly saw it w/Carol Costello yesterday, who could not take her own city burning. She kept saying "I have a house here! This is not what this city is about!". Guess it's cutting too close this time, huh Carol?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (2TN4k)
Is granting statehood an act of love?
_________________________
Because there is nothing the U.S. needs more than another state full of welfare dependents.
Bush is an idiot.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (lmdHn)
severe winter weather helped keep consumers indoors
Has there been any previous Administration since WWII that has resorted to this equivalent of "my dog ate my homework" for an excuse for poor economic performance as this treasure trove of affirmative action halfwits?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (95CzI)
So...2 years from today?
Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (Yfo5v)
Apologies to anyone who already made this easy observation.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 29, 2015 02:15 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 02:16 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (wkuqO)
If I followed baseball close enough I would be able to do a "so it's like a *insert low attendance team name here* game" joke.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2015 02:16 PM (z/Ubi)
All those guns and all that beer???
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:16 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (81UWZ)
If the politicians of Baltimore were smart none of this would have happened.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:17 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (wkuqO)
If I followed baseball close enough I would be able to do a "so it's like a *insert low attendance team name here* game" joke.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2015 02:16 PM (z/Ubi)
How about a WNBA joke?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:17 PM (oKE6c)
If the politicians of Baltimore where smart they would have let off duty Police and National Guard troops into the stadium to watch the Orioles play.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (81UWZ)
If
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:17 PM (Txrlv)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:17 PM (wkuqO)
I'd argue that WWII did nothing to end the depression.
We simply went in to super austerity mode for civilians (rationing food, rubber, oil, etc), destroyed a ton of wealth (tanks, ammo, planes, bombs, etc) then had a decade of pent up demand in the US and world wide in the post WWII environment.
Then through a confluence of events -- rapidly paying off govt debt, lowering deficits, PLUS of course the fact that we were the sole industrial powerhouse in the world whose factories werent destroyed in the war...
And of course, Bretton Woods. That was a big one that people usually ignore. Making the USD the reserve currency had a lot to do with our economic growth in the '50s.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (g1DWB)
How many blue cities need to go up in a mushroom cloud before the Left grows a nutsack ?
Posted by: Bigby's Aching Elbow at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (3ZtZW)
twitter.com/ColinDaileda
twitter.com/NoahWehrman
twitter.com/SBNation
twitter.com/iowahawkblog
Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at April 29, 2015 02:07 PM (uKs7A)
They baked that intellectual property product categoryinto the entire series going back to 1929. Software was previously counted elsewhere, but RD and entertainment were new to the GDP.
Specifically, RD/entertainment, at a net +0.20 percentage-point contribution to the change in GDP, accounts for almost all of the growth this past quarter.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 29, 2015 02:12 PM (iQIUe)
But so far, the company's not backing down. And they're calling the bomb threats "terrorism:"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 02:18 PM (zLQjS)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (/Ho8c)
That and it is technically easy to do so. The Twitter mob is easy to call up because it requires no more physical effort than to move the thumb over the keypad on the phone.
The person making the threat is likely to find that it is not a cost-free thing to do, however.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 02:19 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2015 02:19 PM (DXzRD)
Is granting statehood an act of love?
Ultimate FU.
As in, "Pay up bitchez!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:14 PM (Yfo5v)
To be paired with DC becoming state number 52.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:20 PM (cL79m)
How about a WNBA joke?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:17 PM (oKE6c)
Or a soccer joke. But I didn't want to mix my sports.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2015 02:20 PM (z/Ubi)
Roll a D9 dice for each pitch.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:20 PM (Yfo5v)
Move the US national capitol to San Juan. Keep the PR a territory. And integrate DC back into MD and VA.
Winning?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:21 PM (B0IEg)
Happiness is being jerked awake from my turn napping on long vacation drive because Dad drifted into a construction barrel. I'd drive the whole way to have him back and go fishing again.
Posted by: DaveA at April 29, 2015 02:21 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (wkuqO)
Ooh, I've already got the state motto: "The Welfare State."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
Winning?
Too close. Guam.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: LadyS at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (xYNhJ)
Liberalism is like dementia. Just when you have somethingreally really really important to say. . . uhhhh. . .
Oh, yeah!
You've got a friend.
Posted by: James Taylor at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (iAUf+)
No surprise ISIS would try to recruite from the rioters and their supporters.
The tweets from the rioters show some really deep America hatred.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2015 02:23 PM (DXzRD)
Why bother? Practically 3 / 4 of them are in Massachusetts collecting welfare already.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 29, 2015 02:23 PM (zF6Iw)
MLB is also. Some of those kids have arms!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (Yfo5v)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:22 PM (Yfo5v)
Ooh, I've got the state motto for that one, too: "The Tipping Point."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (oKE6c)
Move the US national capitol to San Juan. Keep the PR a territory. And integrate DC back into MD and VA.
Winning?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:21 PM (B0IEg)
Virginia got its portion of DC back in the early 1800s.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (cL79m)
Not really "America hatred" as much as its "white people hatred". And since rich white dead slave owners founded america...
But it all goes back to racial resentment. Which is sad. Hoped we were past that kind of stuff.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (AkOaV)
I'm sure that wasn't a coincidence that the Nation of Islam people were ready to step in and bring order.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (AkOaV)
Ahahahaha....as seen on drudge.... Federal Reserve deletes their calender .... what a farce this has all become.
A fascist oligarchy it shall be.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (wkuqO)
Ho Hum...
Posted by: Golf and Tennis at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (yRwC8)
mynewhandle, I saw some seriously rabid and worrisome tweets from supporters and the professional agitators.
Made me feel a little betterabout being armed.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:27 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:24 PM (cL79m)
Can we give it back?
Posted by: Virginia, wiping off DC taint at April 29, 2015 02:27 PM (yRwC8)
Because how do you unwind from this?
The fed set themselves up for where they are. Stop printing money or raise interest rates or anything else and not only does it "hurt" the economy (on paper) but it REALLY hurts the fedgov's fiscal situation if t-bonds go back to any kind of historically normal interest rate.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:27 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 29, 2015 02:19 PM (hLRSq)
We had several months of people calling in bomb threats to the HS here so the students could get the rest of the day off. After about the third one a warning went out. Sure enough the stupids did it again.
Then they found out what they were doing was a felony with a $5,000 fine and up to a year in jail. The calls stopped very quickly after that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2015 02:27 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: the real ch3 at April 29, 2015 02:27 PM (IG5KL)
Yeah. Lots of racial hate toward white people out there.
Scary stuff.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:28 PM (AkOaV)
Whoa, that's an important bit of info.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 02:28 PM (2TN4k)
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:13 PM (wkuqO)
Ho Hum...
Posted by: Golf and Tennis at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (yRwC
Golf and tennis players (especially the former) are such pussies. MLB players can hit a 95 mph fastball with 50,000 people screaming, and golf players can't hit a stationary ball without total fucking silence.
Ridiculous.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 29, 2015 02:29 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:29 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 02:29 PM (a42f0)
-
They could have virtual paternity suits, domestic violence, rapes and the occasional murder to keep it real.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 02:30 PM (XUKZU)
*pauses*
Move the US national capitol to San Juan. Keep the PR a territory. And integrate DC back into MD and VA.
Winning?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2015 02:21 PM (B0IEg)
Move it to Detroit. They could use the economic boost, and it has an authentic urban atmosphere that the elites claim to cherish.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:31 PM (Txrlv)
you can't unwind it, they will choose massive inflation with a side dish of denying there is inflation.
But they only think federally, cities and counties are going to go bankrupt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 02:31 PM (ODxAs)
There were ISIS protest signs and t-shirts at the Ferguson protest/riots.
CAIR was also heavily involved in Ferguson, and one of the protest leaders is a Palestinian-American activist.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 02:31 PM (2TN4k)
Didn't happen.
Original source was a twitter post. People ran with it even though there was no source.
Everyone who ran with it has had to walk it back once they realized there was no source.
(not trying to pat myself on the back here, but I said from the moment I saw it on twitter that we can't repeat something like that when there is no original source. Just a screenshot someone posted on twitter.)
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:31 PM (AkOaV)
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No. They were ordinary citizens who didn't think burning their town to the ground was a good idea. Probably all voted Donk though.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 29, 2015 02:32 PM (XUKZU)
I saw a pic last night of people standing in fron of the police. I saw no bowties or suits. Wetre those Nation of Islam guys?
bowties and suits are their dress uniforms, they were wearing their street fighting uniforms last night
Posted by: george costtanza at April 29, 2015 02:32 PM (lKyWE)
A fascist oligarchy it shall be.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (ODxAs)
I already told you - no interest rate hikes until a non-DemocRAT is elected President.
Then it's double-digit interest rates.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:32 PM (cL79m)
@FoxBusiness 5m
Bill and Chelsea Clinton are taking 20 big supporters on a 9-day African safari.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 29, 2015 02:33 PM (KhFZp)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 02:33 PM (2TN4k)
Monday night in the height of the fires / looting / etc a bunch of men in suits and ties came out and stood between the yutes and the police.
Last night it was normal citizens who came out to protect the police from the yutes (according to the media at least)
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:33 PM (AkOaV)
authentic urban atmosphere that the elites claim to cherish.>>>
Lots of empty buildings they can snap up cheap.
http://tinyurl.com/pmwbm9l
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2015 02:34 PM (81UWZ)
A fascist oligarchy it shall be.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 02:26 PM (ODxAs)
I already told you - no interest rate hikes until a non-DemocRAT is elected President.
Then it's double-digit interest rates.
Posted by: steveegg at April 29, 2015 02:32 PM (cL79m)
Word.
Posted by: Sambo at April 29, 2015 02:35 PM (7XGCq)
-Thomas Jefferson
Its wrong to celebrate or crow about bad economic news. Every bad report reflects thousands of ruined lives and struggling people. I want the economy to be soaring and booming no matter who is in charge or what system brought it about. I'd rather be completely wrong in my understanding of the economy than have a depression.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2015 02:35 PM (39g3+)
authentic urban atmosphere that the elites claim to cherish.>>>
Yep.
Move the UN there, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2015 02:35 PM (2TN4k)
Bill and Chelsea Clinton are taking 20 big supporters on a 9-day African safari.
Shooting africans? Because we all KNOW they wouldn't be shooting loveable animals.
Why do you h8 africans Preznit Clinton??
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:36 PM (Yfo5v)
All levels of government would be fucked.
If 10% (using all approximate numbers here) of our budget goes to paying interest on the debt when most of our debt being issued is short term with sub 1% yields, what happens when we have to issue long term debt at 5% yields (historically normal rate) or up to 20% yields (Jimmy Carter rate) ?
It would crowd out EVERYTHING else. Just servicing the debt, mind you, not paying it down at all.
And of course, we would have to borrow even more to pay for our spending programs.
Thus, debt spiral.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2015 02:31 PM (Txrlv)
No! Not Detriot. Anything but that. AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: CIA guy at April 29, 2015 02:36 PM (cL79m)
Its a matter of concentration, what you're used to, and emotional buildup. Hard to understand unless you've done it, I expect.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2015 02:37 PM (39g3+)
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There is also a picture of three men in suits standing next to a well dressed female protester preparing to throw something at police. The men in suits make no effort to stop the woman. They don't knock the projectile out of her hand, they don't grab her arm, they don't embrace her in loving kindness to prevent her from committing a crime. They stand there, smiling, watching, posing for the photographer.
Posted by: Jerry Midlist at April 29, 2015 02:37 PM (zLQjS)
OTOH, it is nice to know that one is correct in how economics work and not just a crank.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2015 02:37 PM (a42f0)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 29, 2015 02:37 PM (2cS/G)
or what system brought it about.
The whole point is to reflect socialism is a system that will never ever work.
That should be the first part of your economic education.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2015 02:38 PM (ODxAs)
Question about your nic... When I was a kid I attended a summer camp in Orgegon called Camp Tilikum. Are you from around there?
Posted by: Sambo at April 29, 2015 02:38 PM (7XGCq)
Labor Union Goons doing their finest to help US exports...Not!
Thats why the two biggest shippers pulled up anchor
http://tinyurl.com/owv5ofb
Posted by: Fish at April 29, 2015 02:38 PM (YKHL8)
Roll a D9 dice for each pitch.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:20 PM (Yfo5v)
Hi there!
Posted by: Strat-O-Matic Baseball at April 29, 2015 02:38 PM (zoehZ)
Yeah, the nation of islam hates white people as much as / more than those protesters.
Which is why I say they were there to make themselves look good (ahem, and probably recruit) and to protect the whilin' yutes, they were NOT there to protect or help the cops and the city.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:39 PM (AkOaV)
I've
been saying/hoping that for years and gave up after 2012. Ain't going to happen. Anybody
that can be awakened already is. The giant is not sleeping. It is fat,
lazy diabetic couch potato and won't let some urban riots get in the way of reality TV and posting selfies on Facebook.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at April 29, 2015 02:40 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Fish at April 29, 2015 02:40 PM (YKHL8)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 29, 2015 02:37 PM (2cS/G)
I LOLed
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:40 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 29, 2015 02:41 PM (AkOaV)
The cop who picked up a rock and tossed it back at a thug had a mean fastball. If I was mayor, he'd have thrown out the first pitch at todays game. The catcher would be taking his mitt off and shaking the pain off.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 29, 2015 02:44 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: PJ at April 29, 2015 02:46 PM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Jean at April 29, 2015 02:47 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 29, 2015 02:48 PM (iQIUe)
I've been saying/hoping that for years and gave up after 2012. Ain't going to happen. Anybody that can be awakened already is. The giant is not sleeping. It is fat, lazy diabetic couch potato and won't let some urban riots get in the way of reality TV and posting selfies on Facebook.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at April 29, 2015 02:40 PM (1BQGO)
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Yup. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2015 02:48 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 29, 2015 02:48 PM (iQIUe)
------------------------------------------
So, please. Let's all go libertarian and legalize drugs.
Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2015 02:50 PM (/HX7u)
Now progressive, participation trophy people, tell me again that little theory of yours about "there are no absolutes".
Posted by: Divide by Zero and his cousin, Gravity at April 29, 2015 02:51 PM (vmAFq)
The first to be moved to action will die. Period. There will be no understanding and no hesitation. The silent majority is code for white people and they get no special snowflake help.
Posted by: just saying at April 29, 2015 02:52 PM (wkuqO)
Close enough.
The revised number will be -0.5%
Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2015 02:52 PM (JBggj)
Right on man! Far out! Don't bogart that EBT.
Posted by: Dave's not here at April 29, 2015 02:52 PM (sH832)
Can you imagine ... running against Multi-National Corporations AND scapegoating certain minorities? Promising government controls leading to wider employment AND a stiff crackdown on domestic riots.
That party would win. I really think they would.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2015 02:53 PM (7faTs)
Probably a lot of adrenaline involved
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2015 02:53 PM (39g3+)
The implication of course was the popo veterans caused the riots.
When everyone knows it was the Polar Vortex all along.
I've tried and tried to get through to you wingnuts but some folks you just can't reach.
Polar vortex.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 29, 2015 02:54 PM (X+nFp)
Take notes, Republicans: this is how you fight against tyranny.
Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2015 02:54 PM (LISuA)
"Venezuela's socialist government on Tuesday announced a nationwide
electricity rationing plan to tackle a surge in demand caused by rising
temperatures in recent weeks."
http://tinyurl.com/kh495ad
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2015 02:54 PM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:54 PM (0x/TW)
I'd say unemployment will probably go up, but if it does, we'll likely never hear about it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2015 02:55 PM (39g3+)
Economy stopped cold? Check.
Political opponents of Progressives demonized and legally harassed? Check, and double check!
All is proceeding according to plan.
Posted by: The "Let It Burn" Crowd at April 29, 2015 02:56 PM (LISuA)
been saying/hoping that for years and gave up after 2012. Ain't going to happen. Anybody
that can be awakened already is. The giant is not sleeping. It is fat,
lazy diabetic couch potato and won't let some urban riots get in the way of reality TV and posting selfies on Facebook.
Right. Not so long ago, there were some people on opposite sides of the world who smarmed wise shit real similar. One of them folded before the big event, didn't matter, their cities still looked like a '79 truck stop ashtray. The more stubborn of the two got to be the lucky recipient of the worlds first two largest mass flash-photography events. Sadly, the expose was a little maladjusted and the only thing that showed on the negatives were their footprints and some vague shadows.
...wait for it!
Posted by: Keep Pushin Posie at April 29, 2015 02:57 PM (vmAFq)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 29, 2015 02:57 PM (/Ho8c)
Not the very first one. Took awhile for them to catch the Beltway Sniper.
Ramp that up by 10 or 100, and .......
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2015 02:58 PM (Yfo5v)
Yeah, he had just taken a rock to the face, but the shield blocked it. It made a helluva thud. He was pissed. He got his return toss off a split second later.
Probably one of those scary veterans.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 29, 2015 02:58 PM (xQX/f)
Would it work just as well to say:
Lert me loot, loot, loot with the homeboys
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 29, 2015 02:59 PM (YEelc)
They ruin.....EVERYTHING!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at April 29, 2015 03:00 PM (0LHZx)
The per capita GDP took a 10% fall during the Obama years and hasn't recovered.
Posted by: Ken at April 29, 2015 03:01 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: red speck at April 29, 2015 03:09 PM (9/Ug/)
443 Hey Sambo...I grew up just down the road from Camp Tilikum
Posted by: Fish at April 29, 2015 02:40 PM (YKHL
461 Sambo, nope. Named after the mighty and according to some, persecuted killer whale.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2015 02:54 PM (0x/TW)
Sorry, stepped away right after posting my question. It's a beautiful part of the country, the Pacific NW. I intend toke my family on a road trip once we are debt free.
Posted by: Sambo at April 29, 2015 03:45 PM (OP1h3)
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at April 29, 2015 05:00 PM (/EkKm)
If so, you can bet that the real numbers measured the way we've been using for years is well into the negative.
Posted by: Ukipper at April 29, 2015 07:11 PM (O2HzN)
Ain't it amazing Obama consolidated all of our fools and idiots in this Country to believe every lie he told and got us to where we are now ?
Posted by: ron n. at April 29, 2015 10:06 PM (YVQn/)
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