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Is It Time to Formally Separate America Into Two Or More Sovereign Countries?
The fascist SJWs, and their easy way with all corporations (such as GoFundMe), plus Saturday night spurred me to say aloud what I've thought to myself for years: It's time to begin seriously discussing secession.
As the man says: the center cannot hold. No one actually seems happy in this national marriage. It's time to admit this and separate. Update: GoFundMe has taken down another fundraiser page for another Christian besieged by radical homosexual zealots.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (lmdHn)
Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (XMX7O)
Posted by: mark morris at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (mQyVW)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (XMX7O)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (bK6dC)
Only problem: the major urban areas are all filthy with SJW tyranny, and the rural areas aren't. There is no clean geographical break.
But maybe with some kind of free trade agreement we could just have the major cities be blue country and everybody else be red.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (ElEyp)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: mark morris at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (mQyVW)
>>>No one actually seems happy in this national marriage.
Posted by: Ace at 05:16 PM
<<<
Welcome to the party, pal.
Posted by: Bill and Hill at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (1FyZ2)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (48QDY)
Go with Cubs fans / losers who like lesser teams
Oh, packers fans we'll just sell to Russia
Posted by: Navycopjoe Playing bass at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (vk43t)
Said this on the last thread: I'm beginning to suspect we're past the opportunity for an amicable divorce. Speaking for myself, I'm willing to let cooler heads prevail...
...but this bitch is long past due for kicking to the curb.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (XlHZs)
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Posted by: The Left at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (bLnSU)
Looks like it was the gofundme thing. That was a big slap in my face as well
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (h53OH)
At least a Red State vs this horrible state.
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: freaked at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Rich at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (J2AJ8)
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (SLJ40)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (bK6dC)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (q20+R)
We are in this till they suck every last cent from us they can. They know their socialist dystopia cannot work without our $$$.
Nice idea but will never happen.
Posted by: Tantumblogo at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: mark morris at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (mQyVW)
Posted by: Rich at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (J2AJ
THIS.
I'm totally OK with people learning why certain values are enduring values.
Like, oh, those values embodied in the Federalist papers.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (c0co6)
I've said it before... but...
Liberals need conservatives for economic activity, agriculture, security and national defense, and social stability.
Consevatives need liberals for......... well.... not a dman thing.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (xrURQ)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (evdj2)
The man said something else about what happens when the center cannot hold. Something about anarchy being loosed on the world.
He wasn't for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (8i7dG)
Fuck this shoot them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (rDqRv)
We get all counties that went red in the last presidential election. They get the blue counties.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (/yNLK)
Do we not remember what happened last time certain states decided to secede from the union?
I'm just saying... there is no way that this country would have an "amicable" divorce.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (AkOaV)
In the sweet old town
Where I come from
Nobody ever works
Nothing ever gets done.
Hang fire!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (bK6dC)
Posted by: Ian Galt at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (dmepw)
The Greeks wrote about this 3000 yes ago. This tribal retaliation is always justified...on both sides... And always ends in blood and tears.
Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (OZYAR)
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (2UPXV)
Looting would stop on a dime
Posted by: Navycopjoe Playing bass at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (vk43t)
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (OZmbA)
When the Federal Republican Constitution of their country, which they have sworn to support, no longer has a substantial existence, and the whole nature of their government has been forcibly changed, without their consent, from a restricted federative republic, composed of sovereign states, to a consolidated central military despotism, in which every interest is disregarded but that of the army and the priesthood, both the eternal enemies of civil liberty, the everready minions of power, and the usual instruments of tyrants.
When, long after the spirit of the constitution has departed, moderation is at length so far lost by those in power, that even the semblance of freedom is removed, and the forms themselves of the constitution discontinued, and so far from their petitions and remonstrances being regarded, the agents who bear them are thrown into dungeons, and mercenary armies sent forth to force a new government upon them at the point of the bayonet.
When, in consequence of such acts of malfeasance and abdication on the part of the government, anarchy prevails, and civil society is dissolved into its original elements. In such a crisis, the first law of nature, the right of self-preservation, the inherent and inalienable rights of the people to appeal to first principles, and take their political affairs into their own hands in extreme cases, enjoins it as a right towards themselves, and a sacred obligation to their posterity, to abolish such government, and create another in its stead, calculated to rescue them from impending dangers, and to secure their future welfare and happiness.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (MYCIw)
The prog-lib trail of tears from places like Minneapolis, Denver, and Austin will of course be regrettable, but those folks would all rather be in Seattle, San Fran, or Boston anyway, right?
Posted by: filbert at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (S6a2J)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (bK6dC)
You do know he is gay right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: Glen at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (1x4u/)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (evdj2)
Even without a peaceful secession, there may be no alternative. The left is acting lawlessly with impunity--Obama on immigration, the IRS attacking conservatives, Hillary disregarding security and email requirements and also taking bribes/contributions through her foundation, riots in Baltimore and other cities that only cause 'cosmetic' damage, etc. On the other hand conservatives are brought up on criminal charges for so-called crimes when they've done nothing wrong (see Rick Perry, Texas and Governor Walker's supporters in Wisconsin). This is the first step in a totalitarian state but won't be the last.
If the left wants high taxes, generous welfare, carbon restrictions and limits on GMO food, let them have it.
Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (y5bPZ)
Wonder what they would say about the Horde's decades of oppression because of government detachment and the mood here?
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: T at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (OOFfb)
But those who fund all that are wealthy, and those who report on it all are complicit, and those who adjudicate have made it their career to get power over you and use it.
That whole "limited government" thing seems like a *really* good idea, especially now that we've lost the limits.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (TOk1P)
Unfortunately you need to have some kind of a plan to do it, it's not a switch you can flip.
Do we divide by states? There's plenty of purplish states that would be American if not for a big blue cancer. Do we divide by counties instead? That would be my preference, but the map's going to be funny looking.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (ZbV+0)
Exactly. I'm not familiar with any case of a country splitting up without war.
Anyone who thinks we could just agree to split without violence is kidding themselves. Or they've never been through a divorce.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Hank at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (Qgapy)
I don't think so
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (rDqRv)
Do we have to move? Is there any way to compel the Left to let our people go? Are we going to have to kill a bunch of people to make this happen?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (pWzW/)
They are beginning to realize that they can not control this.
And the perps are the youth of the city.
Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (VPLuQ)
The battle of San Jacinto lasted 18 minutes.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (mx5oN)
Plus, if it did ever happen, the socialist part of the country would immediately become subject to take over - low hanging fruit (no pun intended) and the conservative country probably feel some idiotic notion of obligation to their former - and I use the term verrry loosely - brethren, that we'd probably be drawn in.
Count me in, though.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: palolojo at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (Pdldh)
Another great migration. Buy out the the ones who want to go to Progville and vice versa. If they don't own anything they can take the bus.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (2UPXV)
Shit... Weve been in a civil cold war since the publication of "Communist Manifesto"...
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (o/3Hk)
Give a fuck, I do not.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (7Kbxu)
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (UYzxz)
He wasn't for it.
Posted by: JackStraw
Mere anarchy. I"m not sure why he felt the need to put "mere" into it, but it helps somehow, as if pointing out the banality of the evil that usually does humanity in. Anarchy is the right word, though. Entropy will always win, but I'd prefer it if it held off for awhile.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (LAe3v)
State governments should start peeling themselves loose from the huge dependence many states have on Federal funding. It's been a great ride for state politicians: passing goodies to constituents without raising state taxes, but as long as the dependence is there, the obedience will be, too.
Even nominally conservative states suck vast amount from the Federal teat.
Nothing is ever going to happen on the front of moving back to real Federalism, including Mark Levin's Liberty Amendment idea, while the Feds can withhold Federal highway, health, you-name-it funds.
Start there. Then see where it goes.
Posted by: TB at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (8u/5i)
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (DL2i+)
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That is the crux of the problem. And then there's the 50-50 suburbs.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (CrJzY)
For years I've urged secession its wonderful to see a prominent conservative voice finally speaking out for it
Posted by: Rick Perry's Parakeet at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (AeVNR)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (Q/rld)
I disagree - Conservatives simply need to abandon the two coasts. May be hard on them, but it was hard for the Jews who left Germany in the 1930's too. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, we have lots of room left.
I see at least 3 new nations being formed, if not 5 or 6. California will probably go it alone, Pacific Northwest, Boswash & Northeast, Southeast (old Confederacy, mostly), and Texas and it's allies, which will include most of the Mississippi River States.
There will have to be some large population shifts, just like happened between India and Pakistan in 1947, but that's what we've come to.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (BZAd3)
Fuck that. I'm not doing the "You get the house and I'll live in a trailer" kind of divorce.
We get all the land and they can get the hell out.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (rDqRv)
"When, long after the spirit of the constitution has departed, moderation is at length so far lost by those in power, that even the semblance of freedom is removed, and the forms themselves of the constitution discontinued, and so far from their petitions and remonstrances being regarded, the agents who bear them are thrown into dungeons, and mercenary armies sent forth to force a new government upon them at the point of the bayonet. "
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (MYCIw)
The problem is a liberal, collective society ALWAYS fails eventually. This society will fail as well. I think instead of working on a divorce, maybe we work on an alternate, shadow society that will survive as the liberal society fails. I don't know how. Just spit-balling.
I like my starship idea.. but that might take a while.
Posted by: jjod at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (0r7PZ)
Second part of that - they can't let us go. They're parasites that rely on a host for survival.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (dBm7S)
See Lithuania, Latvia, and other members of the former Soviet Union.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (/yNLK)
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (/HX7u)
The Left will prevent it
All the stuff belongs to us in the first place
Posted by: Grad School Fool at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (A9KzJ)
Eh, fuggit, won't work.
Posted by: Founding Fathers 2015 at April 27, 2015 05:29 PM (7YFuT)
Anyone who thinks we could just agree to split without violence is kidding themselves. Or they've never been through a divorce.
Posted by: JackStraw
Czechoslovakia?
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (LAe3v)
How does one split America between the mostly urban liberals and the mostly rural conservatives?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM
Liberal cities in Prog Land will get really big and cities in Non-Prog Land will get dinky. Cities grow or shrink and die all the time. Look at Detroit.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: FDR's TV at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (hJq98)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (g1DWB)
I look forward the the grainy sex tapes played for the court.
*shifty eyes*
You know....for justice and all that good stuff.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: FDR's TV at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (hJq98)
Well.... Looks like the Administration has gotten to GoFundMe.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (o/3Hk)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2015 05:30 PM (TJCSB)
I guess hire the same people that draw the congressional maps?
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jollyroger at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (c0co6)
Fuck these fucks. It's time to set up our Own Shit so we can Call The Shots.
Our own political party.
Our own PAC.
Our own media outlets.
Our own businesses.
Our own polling firm.
Our own goddam gofundme.
Gofundme? Those assholes take a steep vig just for acting as brokers. Any asshole with a server and a bank account can do that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (Tk6Z0)
There is no other alternative to conflict.
We tried the live and let live approach and what has that gotten us?
70 year old cake bakers driven to penury.
I wouldn't be surprised if the left makes a push to deprive them of state and federal welfare benefits, not at all.
Fight or die, they are leaving us no choice.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (F/9QB)
Probably because Yeats was a Brit. Mere is from Latin merus which means pure.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:31 PM (g1DWB)
The suggestion was to split into two American countries.
That does not answer the logistics of it - do you expect it to be two countries intermingled?
Cities of one country enveloped by the land of another, across a continent?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (0NdlF)
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We've got the food and the oil. They've got the condescension and the SJWs. Seems fair.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (XUKZU)
Czechoslovakia.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (xQX/f)
Wasn't the DOJ going after the money that gun manufacturers have in their bank accounts? I imagine they'd do something similar to any conservative crowd funding effort.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (U7ssf)
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (4CRfK)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (sj3Ax)
First thing we all need to do:
STOP GIVING THE LEFT YOUR MONEY.
Before you spend even a dollar, ask yourselves: Is any of this going in the pockets of People Who Hate Me?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (Tk6Z0)
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No doubt there would be violence. But what is the alternative? Continuing to allow these fascists to trample on us? There comes a point at which we must act. And we have reached that point.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (lmdHn)
Posted by: kansas at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (vqsBK)
Posted by: JackStraw
Thanks. I did not know that.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (0NdlF)
With fire.
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (evdj2)
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The East Germans had a similar concern.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:33 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Jefferson Davis, President CSA at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (z7tRX)
We get all the land and they can get the hell out.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (g1DWB)
Yeah, but the way I see it, my way, they are the ones getting the trailer.
Posted by: filbert at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (S6a2J)
Posted by: Rupert Wombat, O.B.E. at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (8CdUx)
A friend had the She went nutz, wanted to go and he let her type. Worked out ok, even got a country song.
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: JackStraw
Czechoslovakia?
Posted by: pep
Czechoslovakia is different. The Czechs and Slovaks were never together in a country until post WW1. Splitting was just going back to the way things had been. And both sides wanted it. And the Czechoslovak government wasn't run by fascist oligarchs at the time.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (Q/rld)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (/kI1Q)
*We* are not leaving. They left. The left left.
Unfortunately, the logical conclusion is to send in a few NG battalions to "restore order" (shoot the EPA and the EPA's swat team) and "restore liberty".
Typing treatises on my phone may not be the best idea...
Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (OZYAR)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (c0co6)
Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (KnbYp)
I am a veritable font of useless trivia.
By the way, Yeats may have been Irish. I can't remember, I've tried to put that painful experience of 10th grade English class behind me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Tantumblogo at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (K/p7v)
You still believe, but you misdirect your anger.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Pmain at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (A36AM)
Posted by: Geof Pinsetter at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (xWQfi)
So tell me why the commie-libs can't just move to a country that thinks like they do? I am not willing to divide this nation in two. THEY need to leave.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (O9qtX)
The abused spouse is expected to shut up and take it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (W5DcG)
Then the red states must demand that no action be taken against them
With one secession complete the rest will follow
Posted by: Rick Perry's Parakeet at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (AeVNR)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (48QDY)
Gonna stop paying your taxes?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (cbfNE)
they will pull out all the stops to prevent Right America from seceding,
and if that doesn't work, they'll try to infiltrate its institutions,
just like they did with the Long March after the '60s.
And becaue of this, the new country will not be quite what we would ideally prefer. There will have to be safeguards against foreign encroachment.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (ZbV+0)
but what's the alternative? They aren 't going to stop. They are on the train to Finland station. You know what else is violent? Gulags and purges and lynch mobs. Not metaphorical gulags and purges and lynch mobs. Real ones. That's the future.
Oh, that's unthinkable. That couldn't happen here.
Oh, yeah?
How long ago was it unthinkable that the President would encourage mobs to destroy businesses and random thugs to assassinate policemen? Two years ago?
How long ago was it unthinkable that the State would bankrupt someone for life for having the wrong opinions, and then the "private" corporate sphere would squash our effort to support them? One year ago? Six months ago?
Get over your Munich mindset. You can't appease the beast and hope for the best.
I'm already looking for ways to get a passport to some foreign country for my family, in case we have to bug out. Paranoid? Nah.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (ElEyp)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (dBm7S)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (IcJmI)
See Lithuania, Latvia, and other members of the former Soviet Union.
Posted by: SGTYork
Sweden and Norway.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (KhFZp)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (48QDY)
Father Coughlin, the angry anti-Semite absolutely loathed by the Left.
Want proof? It was the name of his magazine. Look it up.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 05:37 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 05:37 PM (W5DcG)
who gets the carriers?
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: redenzo at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (WCnJW)
kind of like
'radical Islam', 'radical Muslims', 'radical leftists' etc.
It's radicals all the way down, folks.
I agree and concur.
Let the Radical States of America secede.
Posted by: some random meathead at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (YCG8H)
Posted by: Dan at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (W5DcG)
Never happen. We fight here and now or die. But I personally believe this nation now accursed by God and doomed. Even still, charity demands I fight.
Posted by: Tantumblogo at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Greg Gutfeld at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (1FyZ2)
It would be a hard choice for many. Not me though I'm already in Georgia. I would welcome anyone who wanted to make the move though.
Posted by: freaked at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (bK6dC)
Where is law enforcement?
Shep has an agenda.
I remember why I quit watching Fox.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (/HX7u)
We get all the land and they can get the hell out.
Thumbs up. If conservatives weren't always preemptively trying to compromise with the progs before the negotiations even started, we wouldn't be in this fix in the first place.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 27, 2015 05:39 PM (ElEyp)
Hey now, not the hill to die on.
Just like the one before, and the one before that one, and so on.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (sj3Ax)
Ferguson, Baltimore ... I guess the bright side is that Social Justice Chickens are coming closer and closer to roosting in DC.
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (cbfNE)
Ask ten college students, I wonder what % know what street the 1/2WH is located?
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (IcJmI)
http://knowyourmeme.com/
memes/push-it-somewhere-else-patrick
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Rupert Wombat, O.B.E. at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (8CdUx)
Um, all of those were independent countries before they were subjugated by the Soviets. They got their freedom because we helped take down the SU.
I don't know of any country that wasn't glued together through force but grew organically just deciding they wanted to see other countries.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (g1DWB)
That said, taking out a handful of key electrical transformers would greatly diminish the numbers of leftists in North America, though it would take a month or so before all this would sort itself out.
Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (Orv1g)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (gwDMH)
Get out of NYC for a few weeks, take a break from being Captain TwitterTard, see some of the country, you'll realize that most of it works quite well.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (2cS/G)
We have had these losers since the beginning. I won't give in to their whining any more than I would give in to my kid's whining. Same song, same dance, no dice.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: YIKES! at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (q7ejF)
Pfeh. SD and the docks are all we should even want.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Dan in Michigan at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (2yD4G)
Intermingling is not possible. My example is India.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (IcJmI)
Wasn't the DOJ going after the money that gun manufacturers have in their bank accounts? I imagine they'd do something similar to any conservative crowd funding effort.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:32 PM (MYCIw)
Yes. Operation Chokepoint. They were putting direct pressure on banks not to do business with "high risk" industries that included guns, ammo, pr0n (interestingly enough) and others. I can absolutely see the same thing happening to an upstart crowd source fund for conservative causes, especially after watching what Lois Lerner's IRS did to squelch political speech by conservative and Tea Party groups seeking tax exempt status.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (7Kbxu)
The first thing that has to happen is for the individual states to start growing some balls and start practicing nullification of federal law. We might find that this is all there is to be done.
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That would be a good start. Some states were talking about collecting federal taxes at the state level, then deciding how much of it to send to DC several years ago. I don't know where that is at now.
Another thing which would go a long way toward solving this issue would be to shut down welfare programs immediately.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (c0co6)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (48QDY)
Think Berlin, before the wall came down.
Posted by: Russtovich at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (8zhoe)
They'll have single payer 98% tax brackets all the illegal immigration they want government funded abortion
Sell it to the left! They might end up wanting this more than us
Posted by: Rick Perry's Parakeet at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (AeVNR)
the one and only guarantor of the seperation of powers has always been the sovreign states
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (lKyWE)
Elections? Bought and paid for, with a side helping of voter fraud. Besides, the parties you vote for are just two sides of the same coin anyway. The "illusion of choice" when we are only going in one direction.
Courts? Politically motivated, appointed judges who disregard existing law and public opinion/votes to hold as they see fit. No "standing", not the right "protected class", etc., all used to dismiss legitimate claims.
Executive officers? Involved in so much daily criminal corruption that we can't keep track of it, which they will never, ever see the inside of a jail cell for, since they will never arrest themselves. Vote them out? Ha! See above.
Legislatures? If they aren't corrupt, they are just handing their powers over to the Executive or the Judicial without a fight, to the point that the Executive is unbounded by law and knows it.
Media? Hah!
Education? Hah Hah!
When the "legitimate avenues of consequence" get closed off, the "illegitimate avenues of consequence"gain popularity. People are starting to realize it - talk of "separation" (that isn't pooh-poohed but instead nodded in agreement) is a big indicator of it - people are tired of being hounded and simply want their agitators to go away. But they won't go away. That;s the problem - they want control over you. What happens when they don't go away and keep agitating and demanding?
What do you think happens? What happens in day to day life? A bloody nose or a beer bottle over the head.
Whether that's good or bad is irrelevant - it's a consequence, a response, to line stepping behavior. No different than the bite that follows teasing a cobra. Good and bad doesn't even enter into it.
Posted by: Saltyron at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (i6shs)
I hope all the stores in that section of Baltimore burn down and get
looted and nobody rehabs them and they have to drive 50 miles to buy
groceries
Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Barack's House 'O Taxpayer Funded Vittles at April 27, 2015 05:42 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (mB6ez)
More likely they'll get $50 billion in federal money to rebuild and because 'food desert.'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (gwDMH)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Pmain at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (A36AM)
You know that. I know that. How many of Our Betters living on The Coasts know that?
We will win because they are fundamentally stupid. They survive only because they depend on us not to let them starve/desiccate.
They survive only because we are better than they are. This strategy has certain flaws.
Posted by: filbert at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (S6a2J)
Posted by: Neil Diamond at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (a+WIL)
http://tinyurl.com/k9f3j48
A little late to defend your turf. By about a decade or more.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:43 PM (DT3rQ)
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I only ever watch it for the hot women. Fox's special gift is finding them and putting them on the air.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM (7Kbxu)
- 100% self-sufficiency, as the rest of the world will, at a minimum, refuse to trade with us.
- A very-robust and complete defense system, as the fallout patterns from the omega-nuking of our territory will likely not affect DC, much less NYC.
Posted by: steveegg at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM (cL79m)
The Left will prevent it
All the stuff belongs to us in the first place
*We* can always make new stuff.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (10ydV)
Food. They have no idea where it comes from or how it gets there.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (g1DWB)
Canada, India, the Bahamas, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Egypt, Palestine...
Pretty much everything the UK de-uk'd in the last 70 years.
Posted by: Jollyroger at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (t06LC)
conservatives' belief in america and the true meaning of civil institutions will not abide secession or insurrection.
Posted by: mark morris at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (mQyVW)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (g1DWB)
But his hair is fabulous.
Posted by: Manufacturer of "Gay Middle-Aged Man Red" Toupee Dye at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (vgIRn)
"I rarely watch Fox. It's RINO Establishment tool."
i used to like magen kelly but she has gone why over the top with the dumb blonde schtick
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Eli Cash at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (a+WIL)
would get with open borders, free shit, taxing the fuck out of everyone
to pay for it, nothing getting built I could go on.
Posted by: YIKES! at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (q7ejF)
How will you be able to tell the difference? *ducks from the spitballs being thrown by Cali Morons*
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (yRwC8)
http://tinyurl.com/k9f3j48
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It's only near beer when we need fire water.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (xQX/f)
Then, we have the highest corporate tax in the industrialized world. Because of that, small business in this country has stagnated.
Those are two seldom mentioned reasons to go along with the millions of other reasons.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (BZAd3)
More practical: Do away with the federal government altogether, replacing it with 50 state governments. Of course, this would require a long, destructive civil war.
And at that point, after 20 million dead, maybe we'll realize that the states would be much stronger if united under a weak but real confederation. Maybe we'd draw up a charter; we could call it the Articles of Confederation.
And in a couple of hundred years, after the continuous inexorable growth of the federal government due to the undue influence of the arrested adolescent class of lawyers who implement their plans by changing the meanings of simple words in our governing documents, we'll do it all over, and have 30 million war dead.
Nope. A purge sounds more appealing to me.
I wish I'd stocked up on 0.308 ammo a few years ago.
Posted by: Pastafarian at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: Eli Cash at April 27, 2015 05:46 PM (a+WIL)
Heh. It would be a bit like firebombing Detroit.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:46 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 05:46 PM (UlJ3l)
<<Um, all of those were independent countries before they were
subjugated by the Soviets. >>
Um...like the Colonies? Hell, not even the entirety of the original 13 were in favor of independence and they didn't all belong to King George either, Sparky.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:46 PM (/yNLK)
That's why any scenario I game out falls apart if it doesn't secure nukes. Exhibit A: Ukraine.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (DT3rQ)
I did but lost it all in that tragic canoeing accident.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: YIKES! at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (q7ejF)
________________________
LOL. That could never happen. The voters in California would never stand for it. It would be idiotic and suicidal.
Oh, wait . . . .
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (lmdHn)
Lynch meeting with TFG about Baltimore right now. They're going to make it another Ferguson!
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (sj3Ax)
Yep, 6:05 is the scheduled time for broadcast.
Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (ahBY0)
We could speed it up by doing a 180 and pack if full of our version ( *cough* SJWs) of Douglas Adams' phone sanitizers.
Posted by: Russtovich at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (8zhoe)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (g1DWB)
But his hair is fabulous.
Posted by: Manufacturer of "Gay Middle-Aged Man Red" Toupee Dye at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (vgIRn)
The thought of being lectured again by Shep fucking Smith is more than enough for me to keep the TV off.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (BZAd3)
- A very-robust and complete defense system, as the fallout patterns
from the omega-nuking of our territory will likely not affect DC, much
less NYC.
Posted by: steveegg at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM
That sounds like a really huge Israel.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (2UPXV)
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If they agree to a split, we'll call off John "Bulldog" Boehner and they can do whatever they want.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (XUKZU)
others have pointed out, so impractical as to be excluded from serious
consideration.>>
They said that about India... and the Palestinians seem to have no problem living in separated geographical areas.
Divide the country by blue and red as of last Presidential election...not by state, but by county.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Vincent Vega at April 27, 2015 05:48 PM (x6d4B)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (YCG8H)
100% self-sufficiency, as the rest of the world will, at a minimum, refuse to trade with us. texas has a lot of refineries
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (lKyWE)
I volunteer that the southern half of AZ be given to the new Blue Nation.
They once talked about seceeding anyway when we dominated the state govt.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM (BZAd3)
No. Some white people can.
The reason we are 30th is because we imported an bunch of illiterates. Averages and shit.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (48QDY)
And that's why Texas still flies the Gonzales Flag every year.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (MYCIw)
Have to disagree with you there. There are only two scenarios that can happen. 1. Because of demographics, our country will become solidly socialist with no way to reverse it except with bloodshed. 2. Longshot for a preemptive peaceful split.
Flyover country has already been corrupted. Even my beloved Texas.
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (dBm7S)
Only because GB was failing as an empire. They gave those states their independence. It's not like London just declared independence and called themselves Frank.
We are talking about the dissolution of a country that fought for it's independence and then fought to keep itself together just deciding, eh fuck it and you can keep the kids. That is not the same as a crumbling empire.
No way in hell there wouldn't be violence. And ongoing violence because as many have noted the left would not be well suited to feed and defend their new utopia.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (g1DWB)
Cut off the massive coal trains (and out-of-state power transmission) and it'll take a whole lot less than that.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (GDulk)
You either go large, and win the culture wars, or forget it. It is a wee bit late in the game, but there are no viable alternatives.
Posted by: unknown j. at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (zsrMa)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (2cS/G)
hasn't the country tried this before?
i only see 3 real options
1. voting which seems to have become a joke.
2. lawfare as they lawfare us, to death.
3. actually shut down any financing from conservatives. no buying anything from anybody supporting them.
that means cable, that means futbol
that means new toys for the boys and girls.
tech.
cable
tv
hollywood
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (nqBYe)
Lynch meeting with TFG about Baltimore right now. They're going to make it another Ferguson!
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (sj3Ax)
I got the matches. You bring the gasoline.
Posted by: Loretta Lynch at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (48QDY)
That illustrates the basic flaw of the approach. We're not up against a specific group, party, nation, or organization. We're fighting human nature.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (DT3rQ)
http://images.newsmax.com/misc/2008_Election_Map.jpg
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (/yNLK)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (DT3rQ)
You're forgetting the Soviet Russian and Red Chinese nuclear weapons. They're the ones that will be used against us (partly because the opening move of the ObamiNation will be to obliterate our only potential ally Israel).
Posted by: steveegg at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (cL79m)
We in the US test everybody and include that in our average which includes people who speak English as a second language, and inner city kids who don't have a first.
Countries like China only test the kids going to college. The results are skewed.
Posted by: Jollyroger at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Manufacturer of "Gay Middle-Aged Man Red" Toupee Dye at April 27, 2015 05:45 PM
Word. And I'd like to meet his tailor.
Posted by: A perfectly coiffed London werewolf with a pina colada at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Eli Cash at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (a+WIL)
With lawfare and blatant cheating, they won't even allow us to win an election, if our candidate isn't squishier than Jeb Bush.
Posted by: Old Hob at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (DkXQB)
Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2015 05:51 PM (FRkJH)
So was the North a hundred and fifty years ago.
Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (/yNLK)
2. Repeal the 17th Amendment. Whose interests do Senators represent?
3. State attorney general's have been filing lawsuits. But lawsuits are ineffective in curtailing federal overreach. With a highly centralized government, it's one-stop shopping for leftists. Break it up.
Posted by: Not Craw at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (eem7G)
Such a huge pain in their asses and embarrassment that they're willing to pay us to go away.
Who's got the blow?
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (MYCIw)
slightly east of the coast we could use the central Imperial Valley
California farm land
California would look like Argentina and Chile!
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (2UPXV)
why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change!
Posted by: mark morris at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (mQyVW)
Why am I the only one here who sees the logical flaw in "forcibly expelling people from their homes equals freedom!"?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (/kI1Q)
Try this bullshit around where I live and you'll find yourself dying.
This crap just won't fly in my part of Georgia.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (1DYEY)
Hellz to the yes.
Posted by: some random meathead at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (NUCTk)
Got about 2k rds of 5.56, 1K of 9mm
And enough mags to keep things moving.
30k of .22 25 rd mags, and dedicated uppers could come in handy as well.
Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: redenzo at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (WCnJW)
Which is why the Federalist Papers' arguments are still valid. It may not matter though. You *can't* have a sizable group determined to control and another sizable group determined to *not* be controlled in the same area and expect it to go well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: the Butcher at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (fUjxW)
So you're saying that the US isn't a crumbling empire......
I don't know. I think the comparison is looking quite appropriate.
Posted by: Jollyroger at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (t06LC)
Um. No. The libiots in Tucson wanted that. The rest of us in southern AZ? Not so much. We want to secede, join Texas, and invade New Mexico in order to create a nation.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (O9qtX)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (YCG8H)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 05:53 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: unknown j. at April 27, 2015 05:54 PM (zsrMa)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:54 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:54 PM (XvP14)
Posted by: redenzo at April 27, 2015 05:54 PM (WCnJW)
Food. They have no idea where it comes from or how it gets there. "
Their water and sewage treatment plants are run by electricity. Cut that off, and they'll realize that they're in very big trouble immediately. Food is something an individual can survive without for around three weeks; potable water, three days.
But you are correct about food being a crucial item. If they allow for the divorce amicably, they'll realize that they don't have the means to grow it. We've got them by the balls on the matters that count. Whether we choose to castrate them or not, is up to them.
Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 05:54 PM (Orv1g)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:55 PM (2cS/G)
I just heard last night that they just discovered there is an even bigger load of magma under there than previously thought. Like 4 to 5 times bigger.
So they can have Yellowstone.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:55 PM (g1DWB)
of the original 13 were in favor of independence and they didn't all
belong to King George either, Sparky. Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:46 PM (/yNLK)
A third of the colonists wanted independence, a third were loyalists, and a third were fence sitters that waited to see which way the wind was blowing.
Oh and that reminds me for anyone that cares... tomorrow on his radio show, I think in the first hour, Glenn Beck is going to go over the history of the founding of the Republican party. I know lots of people here think he's cray cray, I get it, but the best side of Glenn is lucid history teacher Glenn. (the worst side is of course is doomsday prepper apocalypse Glenn.) So I'm looking forward to seeing what he has to say. Hopefully the lucid side is there tomorrow.
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 05:55 PM (yRwC8)
By the way, Yeats may have been Irish. I can't remember, I've tried to put that painful experience of 10th grade English class behind me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (g1DWB)
Hey, I knew that Yeats was Irish. Of course, the only reason was because of Phil Lynott and "Roisin Dubh".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2015 05:55 PM (ynQIy)
Yes. Even if we split there will simply be *new* people whose loves aren't complete unless they can control the people around them. This is why emigration has been the answer for those who don't want to be controlled. Since there are no "Offworld Colonies" it leaves physically fighting back. And that will be horrible.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (QKIQb)
Posted by: Rick Perry's Parakeet at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (AeVNR)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (2cS/G)
Thanks for that dose of kindergarten wisdom.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (ZbV+0)
Remember the Magna Carta? Probably not as the liberal/progressive schools don't teach history anymore and besides it's all dead white men and stuff.
Well, fcuk that. It's the rule of law (infamously spit on and laughed at by Bill Clinton and his fellow criminals in politics and the Media 20 years ago) that made and still make this country better and different than most every other country in the world with few exceptions. Most of those being Democracies of one type or another.
If the Gov't will not enforce the law then we no longer have a country ruled by the law.
The only way left to take it back is by some sort of force. Either by refusal to cooperate any further with our own enslavement or by active assault of those who control the means to enforce the law who aren't.
Eric Holder was a prime example of what happens when the law enforcers no longer enforce the law. What's going on in Wisconsin is another example. The ridiculous lawsuits and penalties for someone refusing to act creatively against their will are another.
When do we draw a line? When they demand we put religious symbols on our clothes to more easily discern who are potential "criminials" or when we're being herded into rail cars headed for some vague "work/re-education camp"?
Time to misbehave.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (48QDY)
We get the red, they get the blue, and whatever's left in our section will be cleared out and sent to the coast.
That is India 1947. It was semi-voluntary. Sort of.
Posted by: Lester at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 05:57 PM (YCG8H)
The U.S. is going to break up or start a civil war just as the Cubs are on their way to the World Series
Posted by: Navycopjoe Playing bass at April 27, 2015 05:57 PM (vk43t)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:58 PM (2cS/G)
Anyone remember the state motto of Alabama?
We Dare Defend Our Rights
Ahem.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:59 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 27, 2015 05:59 PM (QKIQb)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 05:40 PM (2cS/G)
Thanks for that dose of kindergarten wisdom.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (ZbV+0)
if you wackos were just NICER to the radical SJWs ...
Posted by: UR Totly AWSUM GOP at April 27, 2015 05:59 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: Chuck at April 27, 2015 05:59 PM (xE5n0)
Yes, you never know what Beck will show up.
Beck is good when he's acting normally.
I'm going to put on Special Report, I wonder how long I'll last before i turn it off.
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 05:59 PM (sj3Ax)
The U.S. is going to break up or start a civil war just as the Cubs are on their way to the World Series
Posted by: Navycopjoe Playing bass at April 27, 2015 05:57 PM (vk43t)
The break-up will happen long before then (unless you think they're on their way this year).
Posted by: steveegg at April 27, 2015 06:00 PM (cL79m)
The U.S. is going to break up or start a civil war just as the Cubs are on their way to the World Series
Why didn't you tell me? If I knew we had 30 or 40 years before anything bad happened I wouldn't have worried.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 06:00 PM (g1DWB)
Hence, when the new Red State Union is formed, it's very important that its
constitution include some mechanism to prevent the left/corporate elite
from once again using mass immigration to elect a new people. Possibly voters could be given the right to determine immigration levels through popular referendum.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at April 27, 2015 06:01 PM (HA+/6)
AZ Hi Desert, New Mexico seems to have quit a few liberal Tucson types.
Sure you want to take that over?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 06:01 PM (0x/TW)
Bad idea, very bad idea. Once the SJW types discovered that setting off Yellowstone would harm Red State America far more than Blue State, then they'd lance it.
We need to keep Yellowstone.
Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 06:01 PM (Orv1g)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 06:01 PM (sj3Ax)
I say yea!
Posted by: Rick Perry's Parakeet at April 27, 2015 06:02 PM (AeVNR)
Just like Nostradamus predicted!!
Posted by: The History Channel, totally giving up at April 27, 2015 06:02 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 06:03 PM (MYCIw)
We take Oklahoma to canada, straight north, and we get the nuke silos AND a pipeline for canadian oil sands.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 06:03 PM (gMa4k)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 06:03 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2015 06:03 PM (2cS/G)
see some of the country, you'll realize that most of it works quite well.
i've had a car once that ran very well until the timing belt broke and drove the piston head into the valves,then it wasn't working at all
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 06:04 PM (lKyWE)
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if only for today, Cummings looks like a prince compared to McCain.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 06:05 PM (XUKZU)
http://tinyurl.com/mn6nvw5
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 06:03 PM (XUKZU)
"Happy Mothers' Day! I got you......toilet paper!"
Posted by: pookysgirl is finally home at April 27, 2015 06:06 PM (WrjPJ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (iQIUe)
because a number of numbskulls refuse to grow up, learn basic math and
take responsibility for their actions?
These are your options.
1) Cling to the status quo: Our enemies outnumber us and we continued to be ruled by their "government"; eventually it runs out of our money and can no longer support them, which leads to
2)Reduce their number to the point that the democratic process can produce *our* government again: I don't want that much blood on my hands and neither does anyone else here, so scratch that.
3)Military coup: I don't think it's going to happen, and I'm not sure how this ultimately avoids option 2.
4)Put them all in chains/revoke their voting privileges but keep the nation's territory intact: Process pretty much looks like option 2 and I'm not sure what you do with them once you've succeeded.
5)Ace's national divorce: We have to figure out how to sell it to them, but potentially this ends with what can be salvaged of the US military between us when they run out of money, leaving them to deal with their own consequences.
These are all bad options, but divorce is the only one that doesn't require massive bloodshed, and is therefore preferable.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 27, 2015 05:56 PM (QKIQb)
So who doesn't want to be in Alaska?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (+YMhA)
No, THEY leave or shut the fuck up.
It's MY country, not some progressive socialist's.
The ones to go after are the leaders of the progressive movement. The lesser ones are easily cowed.
Identify the upper echelon and neutralize them.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 27, 2015 06:08 PM (jeCnD)
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>>They can have Aspen and Telluride.
See this is why it won't work. We can even agree on what to do with an extinction level volcanic eruption and some great ski country. What's gonna happen when we start arguing over beach front?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: some random meathead at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (NUCTk)
Since there will be a regime change in less than two years, why is every one talking this shit?
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (iQIUe)
It's cold. I freeze in the 70 degree weather you guys call summer.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (GDulk)
The necessity of self-preservation, therefore, now decrees our eternal political separation."
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (MYCIw)
This weekend I was watching the "The Economy Is Going To Implode" by Ann Barnhardt, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bA_NbYSaGM She talks about "balkanization" of the U.S.A at about the one hour and 35 minute mark. She points out that the Progs would have no problems in inviting the Chinese or the U.N. to interfere in America once they have control over the coasts. I think she's right. The Progs would even dance with joy once America is crushed. They'll never leave you alone. This is a fight that can only end with one victorious side.
Posted by: Katniss the Klingon at April 27, 2015 06:10 PM (atkpk)
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (ZbV+0)
Here is my option. Fight back. Elect conservatives who have spines. Monitor the polls. Sue the crap out of people like John Chisolm, start repealing stupid laws, DO THE WORK.
Why give up and run away? It's my country, too.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 06:10 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 06:10 PM (YCG8H)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (GDulk)
Clearly you haven't figured out how we stay warm. It's probably more suited to the ONT.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 06:11 PM (+YMhA)
Since there will be a regime change in less than two years, why is every one talking this shit?
I have no idea.
Posted by: President Jeb Bush at April 27, 2015 06:11 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: President Jeb Bush at April 27, 2015 06:11 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: President Jeb Bush at April 27, 2015 06:12 PM (NUCTk)
FTFY Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 06:07 PM (m3iiU)
They can also have Redford's little Sundance compound in Utah, but give us the rest of the state. It will look like Lesotho surrounded by South Africa but fair is fair. Or we kick him out and he goes to Aspen, but "Aspen Film Festival" doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi as Sundance. Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (yRwC8)
Lol. Widow and devout, so I'm guessing that option isn't available.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (g1DWB)
"I'm just saying... there is no way that this country would have an "amicable" divorce."
The battle of San Jacinto lasted 18 minutes.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (MYCIw)"
The battle part, yes. The slaughtering by gunshot and tomahawk in revenge for the Alamo went on for the rest of the day.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (KDbAT)
I'm in San Diego - bit of a transitional shock - but that's the trick. You need to relocate far enough away from where they want to be that they can let you alone. And much like the Israelis in the desert, a Galt's Gulch movement of productive Americans to Alaska would turn it into a comparative paradise over time. I'm willing to don the tuque and snowshoes if that's what it takes.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (QKIQb)
Posted by: The Barrel at April 27, 2015 06:14 PM (cL79m)
How many helicopters, bloodied cops, burning police cruisers, hoody clad youth breaking into CVS and check cashing agencies does it take until it's boring?
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 06:14 PM (xQX/f)
extinction level volcanic eruption and some great ski country.
What are we chopped liver?!
Posted by: Utah, "Greatest Snow on Earth" you jerkoffs at April 27, 2015 06:14 PM (yRwC8)
Oh look at all the cool colors....
Posted by: NYC Parent at April 27, 2015 06:16 PM (v/Mqc)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (GDulk)
Oh, sweetie, we can fix you right up. Lots of men. Of course, the odds are good, but the goods are odd.....
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 06:16 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 06:17 PM (YCG8H)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 06:17 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 27, 2015 06:13 PM (QKIQb)
Time to read up on the Matanuska Colony Project.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 06:17 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Iblis at April 27, 2015 06:18 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 06:20 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
Does the welfare database count?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at April 27, 2015 06:21 PM (Q/rld)
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 06:22 PM (dBm7S)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 06:23 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 06:23 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2015 06:24 PM (sj3Ax)
Ace, I got two words for you. Two words. Fuck. No.
Look, cast you mind back to when this country was a paradise of conservatism. Back in...ahem...when was that again? Right. Never. It never was that way. Not since Lincoln at least. Probably not before that.
These little beta male commie shits have managed to ruin the country in 40 years. So what? Screw them. We'll take it back in 20 years. Or, aren't you man enough? My father fought the Japanese on the beaches of Iwo Jima. My grandfather fought the fucking Kaiser. And I'm supposed to be scared of these little shit weasels?
No. I will not run. because there is no place on Earth they will not find me.
These bastards will inevitably shit all over whatever nest you give them, and then try and move into your basement. You think Mexico is bad, wait till they ruin a good chunk of the U.S. then just TRY and keep them out of the rest. It won't happen. It CAN'T happen.
So pull on your big boy pants and fight for your country, you lazy shit.
Posted by: General Patton at April 27, 2015 06:27 PM (/EkKm)
WZ obama telling peeps to organize?
Posted by: FCF at April 27, 2015 06:31 PM (kejii)
Posted by: Lou Reed at April 27, 2015 06:32 PM (xQX/f)
1.) Sending my tax-dollars to a government that sees me as a threat to them because I'm white-skinned, male, religious Jewish, politically conservative, own legally purchased/registered firearms, served in the military, and am sexually attracted to women.
2.) Having social contacts on a daily basis with low-info "educated" morons who think I am a Nazi/Fascist/homophobic/racist/misogynist simply because of my characteristics and think I should be slaughtered, outright, for having a more factually-based viewpoint than they do.
3.) Voting for a party simply because they verbally pretend to be more conservative than the other political party.
I sure hope these folks have a Plan B when I literally bolt, probably to Israel, and they have to replace my skills (a niche of a niche of a niche job that has maybe several dozen positions in the entire US) and, more importantly, my taxbase when I do so. Juan Rodriguez, Shaniqua Williams, and their dependents are gonna be real upset if they don't get their freebies on time, and all........
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at April 27, 2015 06:32 PM (2mJMN)
It is time for it to separate once again into 50 semi-sovereign nations, with a federal government doing things that only it can do, and that a state legislature cannot. Absent this, then two larger nations is acceptable, but not desirable, nor necessary.
The future will simply belong to those who want it badly enough. Right now, that is the left--but that is because they are currently more fully mobilized in their hearts, a mobilization that usually carries no personal cost for them under current conditions. Change that, and the calculations may change also, on the margins. And it is the margins you start with.
Posted by: Horatius at April 27, 2015 06:33 PM (UKhBB)
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 06:34 PM (xQX/f)
So what's your solution. No, really, what's your solution? Sic transit Gloria Mundi. A patriot knows that as well as a slave. Most of us have had kin who fought in ww2, korea, and 'nam. A number of the Horde are serving or retired soldiers. Your perspective ain't nothing special, though every man has a right to his opinion. Do we hold on to the decaying last, or do we as patriots inculcate American values in our children and our communities so something of what we were, the best of us, survives the collapse? I'm sure people ranted at the monks too, but they're one of the only reasons we have anything left of rome.
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at April 27, 2015 06:37 PM (STOK5)
What some folks, particularly anti-religion ones, don't get is that without churchmen like St. Augustine, Duns Scotus, Thomas Abelard and any of the Scholastics, the Renaissance and the Enlightenment would have been well nigh impossible.
Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at April 27, 2015 06:49 PM (2mJMN)
The answer is send Conservative children on the long march thru the institutions like the left did. Have them lie about what they believe until they have taken over.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 06:50 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2015 06:51 PM (fiHK6)
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 06:58 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 27, 2015 06:59 PM (sqpGi)
Now the question becomes: how?
Where do we make the divide? What is the verbiage of the new Constitution? What do we do to prevent or mitigate the backlash of the act, and there will be backlash?
I am unconcerned with the bloodiness of the fighting that is coming, for fairly obvious reasons, but what of the military, presumably it would be our side succeeding which means we surrender THAT asset and risk it being turned against us--and the red shoe debacle should prove quite soundly that the military is quite nicely in the lefty pocket, it should have been about an ROTC cadet being court martial end for refusal to follow the order.
Posted by: Cthulhu at April 27, 2015 07:16 PM (P4OMO)
Ah...just a little trip up the thread...
Posted by: Horatius at April 27, 2015 06:33 PM (UKhBB)
THIS!!!
Posted by: Portnoy at April 27, 2015 07:32 PM (NQE5S)
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Czechoslovakia did it
Posted by: Campesino at April 27, 2015 08:08 PM (+eJsy)
Posted by: Brendan at April 27, 2015 08:36 PM (8YVZT)
The 30 highest populated cities become city-states with 2 senators each and their own representatives. The rural area of the state with one of the cities retains statehood with a lower number of representatives.
Posted by: scrood at April 27, 2015 08:37 PM (3b9U4)
The 30 highest populated cities become city-states with 2 senators each and their own representatives. The rural area of the state with one of the cities retains statehood with a lower number of representatives.
It can be done. Article 5, my man. Article 5.
Posted by: Brendan at April 27, 2015 08:47 PM (8YVZT)
Posted by: Shoot Me at April 27, 2015 09:02 PM (EQcfE)
Posted by: Xavier at April 27, 2015 09:04 PM (K0Lfo)
Sixteen - hundred-and-thirty-fucking-seven.
They can kill me but I'll be goddamned if I am willingly giving up my home state, where my ancestors risked their lives almost 400 years ago to create a new and better world. They fought disease, starvation, hostile natives. They fought in every major conflict from Bacon's Rebellion up through me serving in Iraq (with the exception of WWI I think, for whatever reason.) They bled for this country. They DIED for this country. Don't I owe them that much? To fight for what they created rather than tucking tail and skulking off and surrendering much of this land to the prog scum?
Posted by: radar at April 27, 2015 09:06 PM (yxDFx)
Who pays child support and alimony?
Because you know the SJWs will be wanting all of that they can get.
Posted by: GhengisGuppy at April 27, 2015 09:29 PM (/WY4u)
Posted by: Gryph at April 27, 2015 09:42 PM (LUj6d)
The pursuit of happiness in a free society --free of Dem nihilistic, butt-fcuking, haters.
Posted by: The roost aint what it used to be at April 27, 2015 09:47 PM (7GI9v)
Posted by: lowready at April 27, 2015 09:51 PM (rvyIQ)
Posted by: Oalooka at April 27, 2015 09:54 PM (iYr7p)
Posted by: ballistic at April 27, 2015 09:59 PM (415sS)
My ancestors fought on both sides.
Let the HUNGER Games Begin.
Gentlemen, lock and load.
Posted by: Ray at April 27, 2015 10:02 PM (AVxHd)
Posted by: taylork at April 27, 2015 10:14 PM (InDbP)
Posted by: daisy at April 27, 2015 10:15 PM (Zp4Jf)
I think there are three options going forward:
1) tyranny
2) civil war
3) peaceful re-negotiation and/or breakup
#3 can be done through public pressure. Most people in every state have loved ones in other states; probably much more so than was the case in 1861.That factplus communications technology would enable citizens to resist feckless zealots and fascistsin leadership who might prefer war.
Thisthird option needs to happen soon, before one side is trampled on too much or there is another Reichstag fire.
Posted by: Spudnik at April 27, 2015 11:07 PM (SH35r)
In 1861 in borderline states, some families split along ideological lines where brothers found themselves in opposing armies in the Civil War.
That split looks surgically clean compared with the polarization and demographics we have today. Even Texas has a forty to sixty percent split across party (and ideological) lines. And tell me how many individual families fall completely on on one side or another.
What is happening is very simple. Americans don't know their own history, and the painful carnage of the past has been all but forgotten. We once remembered and respected the high price a country pays when we don't give each other enough latitude and respect to live and let live.
We are going to have to rediscover it.
Posted by: Levin at April 27, 2015 11:17 PM (6pgRO)
There's only ever been two options. Fight back or submit.
Posted by: Grimmy at April 27, 2015 11:24 PM (uUsh9)
There was an article today on "Sipsey Street Irregulars" that everyone needs to read. It is about Mike Vanderboegh's (the proprietor of that blog) early actions as a communist and his reformation due to READING some books a German Doctor asked him to look at.
The link to the site won't go thru (it asks for a "tiny url" and I don't have a clue what that is) but you can just go to Sipseystreetirregulars and look at the post entitled an anniversary to remember, my benedict arnold period.
It's worth your while.
Posted by: lowready at April 27, 2015 11:49 PM (rvyIQ)
I think you can keep the Constitution as it is mostly intact - just remove some of the fluff that progs have added like changing the Senators into Congresspeople as well as the income tax. Beef up the 10th Amendment so it is clear that judges would have to consider that as the top priority in the event that some situation hasn't been listed out already. Either way I think states need to be given an extra mechanism to serve as a check on the 3 federal branches. Clarify grounds for impeachment and clarify the "commerce Clause" so you can't twist it into a broad law to mean whatever you want. And either outlaw political parties or make it so that smaller parties can gain influence in an easier way so we don't end up with what we have now, which is a one party system with two names.
Posted by: arcadehero at April 27, 2015 11:51 PM (Ij4xM)
Ace has been in favour of faggot marriage since forever. After the alleged divorce, who guarantee us he will not push for faggot marriage again in the 'safe' side of America? If you bring along people like Gabe it is going to be fucked up all over again.
Truth is that it was written all over the wall, and idiots were the ones saying it was a matter of justice to give faggot marriage to faggots.
You are part of the problem, it does not matter how much you propose 'solutions'.
If all idiots avoided participating in faggot marriage maybe the message out would have been clear. We are not going to put up with this crap.
But no.... you had to participate in faggot marriage!
You have made your beds, now lie in it.
Posted by: fromabroad at April 28, 2015 01:32 AM (rnV3B)
Check your FB and other Social media pages. Have no overlap there as well. If you are vocal enough, they could be checked. Plus, if you haven't already deleted anything embarrassing from them. do so now. That beer can pyramid photo you posted from your college days won't look so cool on your boss's monitor as you are being fired.
Lastly, build up a supply of additional profiles on news/discussion sites. It would be better to do so now, which will give them a longer existence. Post several comments just so it becomes legitimate. I personally wouldn't want to go sock-puppet with them. Just think that any of these could instantly be your primary discussion identity.
Posted by: calbadger at April 28, 2015 01:39 AM (Bco6Z)
Posted by: Guy in Texas at April 28, 2015 01:55 AM (AcmH4)
Posted by: Joel at April 28, 2015 04:56 AM (fYfuB)
In such a case, as sorrowful as it would be, were I President, I would have reluctantly agreed--in order to 'strengthen what remains' (if anything actually does). I would also have let it be known that, if those desirous of leaving would begin work on a practical plan, my administration would consider a framework. Also, I would let it be known that I would not expend one ounce of American blood trying to prevent their leaving.
As it is, O won again and if we can't save a part--we'll soon have nothing. JMHO.
Posted by: jrrt at April 28, 2015 06:51 AM (s7dxf)
Let me know when the movement picks up steam. I'm all in.
And I'm glad I'm on the side with the guns.
Posted by: Ed at April 28, 2015 07:21 AM (udRDY)
The entire "blue america" would be Baltimore.
Posted by: Ed at April 28, 2015 07:23 AM (udRDY)
I really think it should be broken up into anywhere from 4-7 different countries. Being a midwesterner, I'd love to see an independent nation made up of Ohio, WV, KY, IN, and Southern Illinois, and maybe even parts of other states as well. (No thanks, Chicago. Fuck off and die.)
Posted by: Ed at April 28, 2015 07:34 AM (udRDY)
Posted by: Sad Patriot at April 28, 2015 08:57 AM (Jm0Pt)
Posted by: Bocephus at April 28, 2015 09:20 AM (KIuQw)
That's a shitty deal. No thank you.
Posted by: DriveBy at April 28, 2015 10:43 AM (C9Vc8)
No, what's dying is the socon subset. Right now, Americans hate/fear the socons more than they hate/fear the fascists, because they don't believe fascism can happen here. (They're wrong, but that's another question.)
The way forward, if you really support the notion of America as a free country, is to bury the socon/paleocon crap and start pretending that every liberty is worth defending for a change.
Posted by: DriveBy at April 28, 2015 02:34 PM (C9Vc8)
Isolated from we the producers, they will shortly starve, both financially and physically.
One week without food, energy and revenue and the cities will be cannibalizing each other.
Problem solved.
Posted by: Constitution First at April 29, 2015 01:23 PM (L5LCw)
http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2010/04/07/parting_company
Posted by: pithnvinegar at April 30, 2015 01:57 PM (r9tgu)
As we've established, there cannot, by ideology or geography, be an amicable divorce. The alternative to amicable divorce is revolution, and while the left is the most twisted from America's original spirit, I have the strong sense that the right has lost the mercy of Lincoln and Adams, a mercy which is necessary if you don't want a revolution to end badly.
So, don't secede formally. Secede, instead, by the manner in which you live. Don't wait for legal permission to start a Christian fundraiser, or build a shed in your backyard, or stop a shoplifter, or save someone from drowning, or educate the next generation. Just do it. And if you do get in legal trouble for it, it's the enforcers who will have some serious explaining to do.
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