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GoFundMe Blocks Fundraising for Embattled Baker Who Refused To Make Gay Wedding Cake, Citing "Hateful" Acts

They shellacked Sweet Cakes by Melissa, a Christian-owned business, with a $135,000 fine for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake.

So people tried to chip in -- through GoFundMe -- to pay that fine.

And the "Jalverts of the SJWs," as Rod Dreher calls them, demanded GoFundMe block the use of its site for this purpose.

And GoFundMe -- which now enters the list of companies which must be boycotted and hopefully destroyed -- complies.

So, there we have it: the Social Justice Warriors, not content to have driven this bakery out of business, are now trying to prevent people from giving the bakers money to pay their monumental fine. It is not enough for the SJWs that the Klein family business was destroyed. And it is not enough that the Kleins are now struggling to feed their five children, and facing a $135,000 fine that will probably drive them to bankruptcy.

Nope, the progressive stance is now to grind those people to dust, in the name of social justice.

And yet Hillary Clinton took millions and millions in "charitable donations" despite being a legislator who could block gay marriage -- and claimed the desire to do so, until the polls on the issue shifted in 2013.

Great video showing Hillary "evolve" precisely as the polls changed.


Posted by: Ace at 04:08 PM




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1 Ridiculous

Posted by: FCF at April 27, 2015 04:09 PM (kejii)

2 We need a conservative site that does the same thing as gofundme.

Or a national divorce.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 04:09 PM (O9qtX)

3
The lesbians response is creepy. They claimed denial of the cake destroyed their lives.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM (iQIUe)

4 Fudge me? Fudge YOU!

Posted by: GoFudgeMe at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM (8GKDa)

5 5th!!!!

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM (sWgE+)

6 Lights trash can on fire and tosses at AoS headquarters.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:11 PM (xQX/f)

7
FundRazr.

There is no monopoly on crowd sourcing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (JtwS4)

8 PC is going to get us killed like that Sailor I had in my chair yesterday who wrote on his Health History he is "actively" Bisexual? And that is just A-OK with the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (rDqRv)

9 So GoFundMe is taking a political stance now, similar to twitter and facebook. Wonder how that happened?

Did they say how the baker violated GoFundMe's rules?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (2TN4k)

10
The left never, everstops.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (OD2ni)

11 Nope, the progressive stance is now to grind those people to dust, in the name of social justice.

Just to be clear, the meaning of "social justice" is "revenge". Always and everywhere.

Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (zoehZ)

12 The lesbians response is creepy. They claimed denial of the cake destroyed their lives.
Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM


That's what happens to special snowflakes who politicize every single aspect of their lives, and in particular their sexuality. Screw 'em.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (h4vJk)

13 Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:11 PM (xQX/f)

Hey!! That trash can WAS our headquarters!

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (sWgE+)

14 eBay. Cakes at 1000 and100 bucks

Unless, what, she can't bake cakes until she pays up?

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (3ZtZW)

15 which now enters the list of companies which must be boycotted and hopefully destroyed"

No.

"Companies" are in business to do one thing - make a return on investment. Dealing with real or imagined (FB/Twit/Whatever = imagined) bogeymen isn't profitable, so they're not going to push back - and there is no history of larger firms ever having done much pushback.

Where we've gone off of the proverbial rails is the sea change in society - back in the day such idiocy was publicly shamed and ridiculed. Today, however, "Teh OUTRAGE" is worn as a badge of honor, and is saluted by the mandarins.

We're screwed.

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (KnbYp)

16 I feel my BP rising.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (JO9+V)

17 So what is the competition for GoFundMe? I like the concept and want to continue my micro-giving campaign.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)

18 Are those same SJW's refusing to buy goods made in China? Goods made with oil from Saudi Arabia?

Thought so.

Posted by: OCBill at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (cPg42)

19 Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM (iQIUe)

yes they claim that they both had issues with "weight gain" after being refused a cake.

So no cake = gaining weight.

But yes, over 75 maladies each... from a (lack of) cake

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (AkOaV)

20 If those rioting fucks get near I95 on Wed. I;ll rum em down

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (rDqRv)

21 Shouldn't we be looking for a way around paying the fine?

Even if we were to give the bakers $135k they then have to turn it over to their persecutors - rather reminiscent of paying terrorists to release a hostage.

Have they tried seeking religious/political asylum either with another state or heck the Vatican?

Raise the stakes.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (78TbK)

22 Apparently GoFundMe saw HATE on the bakery owner's heart:

The website GoFundMe said in a statement Saturday that it took down the
page because the campaign violated the policy against raising money 'in
defense of formal charges of heinous crimes, including violent, hateful,
or sexual acts'.


Gotcha.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (2TN4k)

23 I did check the fitting.

Posted by: Inspector Gadget at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (Nma1v)

24 Great video showing Hillary "evolve" precisely as the polls changed.



The excuse will be, "She's just bowing to the will of the people. When the "people's will" changed, she changed in order to accurately represent their desires."

Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (8hctH)

25 Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)

indiegogo?

a little different concept, but similar.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (AkOaV)

26 Offer the Left a deal they can't refuse: They can have their gay marriage, and we can have our national divorce.

Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (UlJ3l)

27 cake is gay anyways

Posted by: ball of hate at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (MjCU1)

28 Advice to bakeries faced with this nonsense:

SCREW UP THE ORDER.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (659DL)

29 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (AkOaV)

First time I've hear of gaining weight from NOT eating cake.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:14 PM (sWgE+)

30 Did they say how the baker violated GoFundMe's rules?

They claimed that being cited by an administrative judge, like a parking ticket, made the donations violate their policy of donations for people charged with crimes. (although they have apparently let campaigns for convicted felons continue.)

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:15 PM (evdj2)

31 This is what a "truce on social issues" looks like.


Posted by: RoyalOil at April 27, 2015 04:15 PM (ZvKdv)

32 Hey!! That trash can WAS our headquarters!

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:12 PM (sWgE+)



Luxury. We wished we had a trash can for our headquarters.

Posted by: Count de Yorkshire at April 27, 2015 04:15 PM (JO9+V)

33 Who did Memories Pizza use? Wasn't that gofundme as well?

Posted by: Penfold at April 27, 2015 04:15 PM (Fbt5B)

34 *fap fap fap fap fap*

Posted by: Moo Moo at April 27, 2015 04:15 PM (z/Ubi)

35 >>I feel my BP rising.

Why do you kids insist on naming your penises?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:16 PM (g1DWB)

36 >>> We need a conservative site that does the same thing as gofundme.

FinePayMe

which, much politer than FahQPayMe

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:16 PM (3ZtZW)

37 But yes, over 75 maladies each... from a (lack of) cake

I saw the list on Twitter. I experienced most of them myself earlier in the month when I paid taxes (that enable this shit).

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 04:16 PM (/kI1Q)

38 This is what a "truce on social issues" looks like.
___
Oh, we aren't done yet.

He Governor Pence, we've got a job for you now...

Posted by: The SJWs at April 27, 2015 04:16 PM (78TbK)

39 A waddling husk with no morality.

Posted by: redenzo at April 27, 2015 04:16 PM (WCnJW)

40 Advice to bakeries faced with this nonsense:

SCREW UP THE ORDER.


Put Jalapenos in the cake.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (W5DcG)

41 GoFundMe? GoFuckYou!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (CzBeD)

42 At least the Germans had the excuse of the Versailles treaty.

We're losing our minds over a fad that was considered a bigoted example of heteronormative oppression 30 years ago.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (L2xDv)

43 "Nope, the progressive stance is now to grind those people to dust in the name of social justice."


They sure have a funny way of spelling "revenge".

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (hLRSq)

44 Wow. The Washington Examiner. Another conservative website that shuts down browsers and destroys interest with 30-second ads and ridiculous amounts of pop-ups.



We suck at this.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (vgIRn)

45 The next POTUS needs to aggressively fight back against thuggery that Obama has encouraged, or it will only get worse.

Posted by: Baldy at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (sEXjW)

46 They claimed that being cited by an administrative judge

-----

An administrative judge and an administrative decree - there is a due process and violation some where in there.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (gmeXX)

47
just bake the damn cake and when delivering it just slide the van door open and throw it out

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (lKyWE)

48 This cause has been picked up by Samaritans Purse run by Billy Graham's son Franklin.

Posted by: Conductor Crazy Train at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (XYKz+)

49 And it's stories like this why many people keep the gas tanks in their cars full and a go-bag by the door. These people that own the bakery need to leave the state poste-haste and never look back.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (/HX7u)

50 Cupcakes? I thought you said urinal cakes!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (CzBeD)

51 Why do I have the sudden urge to arm myself?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (wtvvX)

52 What exactly are the barriers to entry for someone wanting to start a GoFundMe competitor? Are there even any?

Posted by: OCBill at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (cPg42)

53 From the article, a comment that was highlighted:

Surely, somewhere, there is some accommodation to be had between the two. At least I hope so, because I never want to resent either my son or my parents for making the other unhappy.

There is not.

Sometimes life will force you to make someone feel unhappy, but those are simply feelings.

Time to choose what is right.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (0NdlF)

54 Lights trash can on fire and tosses at AoS headquarters.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:11 PM (xQX/f)


Shoots camel spider cannon at emotional protestor, records the ensuing shrieks and free-style dance moves for YouTube.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (hLRSq)

55 I was always leading this parade....

Posted by: H --> at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (XlHZs)

56 ...and my current lack of cake is giving me extreme emotional distress. Surely there is someone I can sue.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (/kI1Q)

57 Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (/HX7u)

You don't?

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (sWgE+)

58 Put Jalapenos in the cake.
___
Today's secret ingredients is....Carolina Reaper peppers!

Posted by: next on Iron Baker... at April 27, 2015 04:19 PM (78TbK)

59 Who did Memories Pizza use? Wasn't that gofundme as well?


Yes. And I'd bet GFM was embarrassed as hell.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:19 PM (gMa4k)

60 Or just start a GoFundMe to help them start a new bakery.

Posted by: OCBill at April 27, 2015 04:19 PM (cPg42)

61 Or just start a GoFundMe to help them start a new bakery.


in Texas!

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:19 PM (evdj2)

62 They sure have a funny way of spelling "revenge".

You mean spite. Revenge implies some sort of offense.

Though mere existence does offend them ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (0NdlF)

63 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:18 PM (hLRSq)

Pssst, that wasn't a protester. It was AtC mad at Ace about that spider video.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (sWgE+)

64 >>>> And it's stories like this why many people keep the gas tanks in their cars full and a go-bag by the door. These people that own the bakery need to leave the state poste-haste and never look back.

Sad.

Internal Political Refugees.

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (3ZtZW)

65 I'm so sick of these fascists.

They're soon going to get the war they want.

And they're not going to like how it ends.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (lmdHn)

66 which now enters the list of companies which must be boycotted and hopefully destroyed"



No.



"Companies" are in business to do one thing - make a return on
investment. Dealing with real or imagined (FB/Twit/Whatever = imagined)
bogeymen isn't profitable, so they're not going to push back - and there
is no history of larger firms ever having done much pushback.


Yes, actually. Companies that show a willingness to cooperate with leftist demands place themselves outside of any American mutual protection agreement and must be made an example of. If they will make their decisions on fear, our only option is to make them fear us more than the foreign left.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (ZbV+0)

67 Samaritans Purse picked up the fund raiser.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (48QDY)

68 >>But yes, over 75 maladies each... from a (lack of) cake

They both had too much muffin.

Posted by: Aviator at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (sQzB6)

69 >>Advice to bakeries faced with this nonsense:
SCREW UP THE ORDER.


Better advice via Bookworm: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ne87m3y

"When some homosexual couple comes to your Christian business for
services at their immoral event, don't panic. Go ahead and take their
business!

Then explain what is going to happen next.

Tell them that the food and services will be just fine. And then
inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be
donated to a traditional pro-family lobby. If it is something like
catering, where your employees have to be there to provide services,
tell them that all your people will smile, be professional, and everyone
of them will be wearing crucifixes and have the Holy Family embroidered
on their uniforms. Then show them pictures of your uniforms. When the
truck pulls up, speakers will be playing Immaculate Mary. Show them the
truck and play the music.
"Oh, you would be offended by that? I'm so sorry. You approached us because we are Christians. Right?...."

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (2TN4k)

70 Baltimore needs same sex marriage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (W5DcG)

71 Honestly, I have no clue how an administrative judge can order a company to pay over money to another party for "distress."

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (gmeXX)

72 This cause has been picked up by Samaritans Purse run by Billy Graham's son Franklin.

Let's file that one away. Somehow, I don't Franklin will be particularly interested in the whining of offended idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (659DL)

73 "40 Advice to bakeries faced with this nonsense:

SCREW UP THE ORDER.

Put Jalapenos in the cake. "

Or just forget to add the sugar.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (Orv1g)

74
What exactly are the barriers to entry for someone wanting to start a GoFundMe competitor? Are there even any?

There are, I noted FundRazr upthread.

Barriers to entry are the ability to establish perceived trust, achieving brand recognition, and spending some moneyon software, lawyers, and payment systems so that the integrity is solid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (JtwS4)

75 You can fund Sweet Cakes at Samaritan Purse now

http://tinyurl.com/nzlwdgj

Posted by: Nevsky at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (uingK)

76 Advice to bakeries faced with this nonsense:

SCREW UP THE ORDER.

Put Jalapenos in the cake.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (W5DcG)


Yeah, not such a good idea what with the claim that you served adulterated food and such.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (hLRSq)

77 Freddy Grays parents asked for no protests. Fuck that! I needs to express my emotion.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (xQX/f)

78
they get to keep the money already raised and evidently the judge was threatening to raise the fine if they had managed to raise enough to pay through gofundme

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (lKyWE)

79 Betting there is a gofundme out there for at least one of the murderous Lefty heroes like Mumia. Maybe it's high time to out the Left on ALL their hypocrisy. Let's see how many other project GFM allows that should be bounced according to their own rules ...

Posted by: acethepug at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (WK825)

80 Moron Meet-up in Baltimore tonight?

Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (YNPwP)

81 19 Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:10 PM (iQIUe)

yes they claim that they both had issues with "weight gain" after being refused a cake.

So no cake = gaining weight.

But yes, over 75 maladies each... from a (lack of) cake
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (AkOaV)

What kind of quack verified this in medical records? How can being denied cake cause you to become so emotionally overwhelmed you cannot function? If that is the case, there are bigger problems than your damn cake/wedding, and you probably should excuse yourself from society for a while, until you can get a handle on life.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (x303I)

82 They're soon going to get the war they want.
And they're not going to like how it ends.



They'll never know how it ends. When a bullet flips the life switch off, that's it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (gMa4k)

83 And when people were warned that militant gay groups would do exactly this, they said it was just paranoia and homophobia.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (N6OCH)

84 Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 27, 2015 04:17 PM (vgIRn)

Capitalism. Speak it!

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (48QDY)

85 Yes, actually. Companies that show a willingness to cooperate with leftist demands place themselves outside of any American mutual protection agreement and must be made an example of.

I stopped using FireFox because of the Eich affair.

I will stop using GFM. And I think I will take the time to email them about it.

Take a page from #GamerGate. #GG destroyed Gawker through an email campaign targeting its advertisers. Copy what works.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (0NdlF)

86 I can't believe we are at the point where wedding cake has become a divisive national issue.

We are a totally unserious people.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (g1DWB)

87 The lesbians response is creepy. They claimed denial of the cake destroyed their lives.

What are they going to say? That they got married anyway and got a cake from somebody else and are happy and contented?

Fuck that shit. We're a society that rewards grievance lavishly and gays have to find something to be oppressed about.

They make more money than straights. They have no pregnancy scares. They have to manufacture something.

The real problem here is that nobody on the Left of any stature is speaking out. They think they can control this.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (L2xDv)

88 Waiting for a place to be sued because the food served wasn't as quite good as I remember it and now I has a fucking sad.

Feelings. Hurt.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (G3Gsu)

89 they get to keep the money already raised and evidently the judge was threatening to raise the fine if they had managed to raise enough to pay through gofundme
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (lKyWE)

Are you kidding? How can he retroactively raise the fine? It seems like this judge needs to be investigated, rather like the one that helped CHisholm in Wisconsin.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (x303I)

90 I recall years ago my Mom's pro-life group had an annual fundraising dinner at a local restuirant since the owner was a quiet supporter. The restaurant changed ownership and the new owner let it be known that her views on abortion were quite different and the group was no longer welcome. They just found a new restaurnt who was happy to have the business.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (OD2ni)

91 They're soon going to get the war they want.

And they're not going to like how it ends.


They win and get what they want.
What's not for them to like?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (W5DcG)

92 the judge was threatening to raise the fine

What they need is a better lawyer.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (659DL)

93 There is something seriously wrong with the Black community that THIS is how they always react

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (rDqRv)

94 Pssst, that wasn't a protester. It was AtC mad at Ace about that spider video.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (sWgE+)



No wonder the protestor was carrying a step-stool.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (hLRSq)

95
Are you kidding?


its true but he had the authority to do it

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:24 PM (lKyWE)

96 What they need is a better lawyer.

-----

Yes - a good lawyer to take this on pro bono - and take it as far as it can be taken.

Is this not something the Becket Fund should take on?

Maybe there are some bad facts that are preventing them from doing so.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 04:24 PM (gmeXX)

97 What kind of quack verified this in medical records?

One with a JD.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:24 PM (L2xDv)

98 A small feral pack is beating the shit out of a cop car now.

This is going to escalate.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (g1DWB)

99 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (kff5f)

100 78
they get to keep the money already raised and evidently the judge was threatening to raise the fine if they had managed to raise enough to pay through gofundme
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:21 PM (lKyWE)

This judge seems to have a Tar and Feathers Jonez.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (JOG+K)

101 Put Jalapenos in the cake.

Ex-lax makes a nice substitute for chocolate

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (XlHZs)

102 Franklin Graham's charity Samaritan's Purse is collecting donations for this family. The page can be found at: http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/christian-couple-faces-135000-fine/ .

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (OrI3J)

103 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (kff5f)

104 If they will make their decisions on fear, our only option is to make them fear us more than the foreign left."

This is the correct response. Unfortunately, given the nature of the interwebs, the diligently and hardworking types generally don't have the same time as the nutters to endlessly post and repost, and marketing folks today live and breath by the twit and the facebook...

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (KnbYp)

105 It's not about the cake, is it?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (JO9+V)

106 Yes. Destroy GoFundMe.

*AFTER* You have donated to my GoFundMe to publish my book.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (kff5f)

107 Are you kidding? How can he retroactively raise the fine?

He's part of the lawyer-government complex. He's a god. He can do what he wants.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (L2xDv)

108 They'll never know how it ends. When a bullet flips the life switch off, that's it.

*wink*

Posted by: Man in Members Only Jacket at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (G4aHK)

109 When the alleged victims start acting like actual Nazi's their status as victims gets seriously compromised. They didn't get their cupcakes, so now the bakers children must die?

Posted by: OCBill at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (cPg42)

110 Destroying a $50,000 cop car and nobody is doing anything.

What is wrong with people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (rDqRv)

111 Honestly, I have no clue how an administrative judge can order a company to pay over money to another party for "distress."



Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (gmeXX)


It would depend on what the statute says is to be done. In many states the legislature is usually given the authority to create courts and tribunals, though you have to check the state constitution to see actually what the authority is.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (hLRSq)

112 Where can one watch the Bal'mer riots?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (JO9+V)

113 There is a story out there about a pastor being threated with jail time for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremony. Didn't take long for that which is not expressly forbidden to become mandatory.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (ztOda)

114 And of course, not a single GOP politician will come out in support of them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (N6OCH)

115 LOL, and Baltimore has a black police commissioner and a police force that is more than 50% black, IIRC.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (Orv1g)

116 Just paint your delivery truck to say

"More Delicious Baked Goods From

CAKES 4 HOMOS"

Park right in front of the venue.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (CzBeD)

117 Capitalism. Speak it!
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (48QDY)


That you, Tucker Carls...hang on, let me X out of that...Tucker, you need to cool it with the pop...wait, hang on, OK, that's gone...No, I don't want to "take a survey"...Wait, now...the...browser's...frozen....OK, well, I'll respond in 60 seconds after this ad is over.

Or, just, you know, go somewhere else. And I still have to deal with the pop-unders.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (vgIRn)

118 A small feral pack is beating the shit out of a cop car now.

This is going to escalate.


Pack is larger. Like ants on a cracker at a picnic.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (gMa4k)

119 Destroying a $50,000 cop car and nobody is doing anything.

What is wrong with people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (rDqRv)


Sanctioned by the mayor of Balt.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (sWgE+)

120 The restaurant changed ownership and the new owner let it be known that her views on abortion were quite different and the group was no longer welcome. They just found a new restaurnt who was happy to have the business.

That's not the way to do it.

Sue, sue, sue.

Get the Supreme Court to invent a right.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (L2xDv)

121 Have we covered Protein World's perfect response to the SJW yet: "Grow up Harriet"

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (Ez21D)

122 Like ants on a cracker at a picnic.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (gMa4k)


I see what yu did there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (rDqRv)

123 Opening on JV Squad:

NEW DELHI: The enigmatic chief of Islamic State jihadist group Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead, Radio Iran has reported on Monday.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (C+R83)

124 A small feral pack is beating the shit out of a cop car now.

Bait?

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (evdj2)

125 We're a society that rewards grievance lavishly"

^^ This.

"We" used to point, mock, and laugh. Now, we're supposed to tremble in fear while pissing ourselves.

Fvck that.

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (KnbYp)

126 >>evidently the judge was threatening to raise the fine if they had managed to raise enough to pay through gofundme

Why does the judge have any say over where they get the money to pay the fine??? Sounds like the fine was not about restitution, but about destroying the business via bankruptcy.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (2TN4k)

127 Where can one watch the Bal'mer riots?


Fox News online.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (gMa4k)

128 Buncha buds just broke the shit outta the cop car windows. Cop drove away. Other direction.

Social justice!

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (xQX/f)

129 What is wrong with people
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (rDqRv)

No no no, no big deal. Insurance doesn't cover riots, but taxpayers do. Gladly.

The cops will get any and all destroyed vehicles replaced by the city.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (AkOaV)

130 yes they claim that they both had issues with "weight gain" after being refused a cake.



So no cake = gaining weight.



But yes, over 75 maladies each... from a (lack of) cake

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:13 PM (AkOaV)

They claimed to suffer both a loss of appetite AND weight gain... so try and square that circle.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (OrI3J)

131 The real problem here is that nobody on the Left of any stature is speaking out. They think they can control this.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (L2xDv)


One of my favorite books is Louis L'Amour's The Walking Drum and it has some fantastic lines. This one is applicable:
"If you ever become a hero to the mob, Phillip, remember this: Every man who cheers you carries in his belt the knife of an assassin."

Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (8hctH)

132 What about Barronelle Stutzman? I donated to her cause on gofundme and now the link has disappeared. My credit card was charged. Did she get her money?

Posted by: Jason in KT at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (slkHP)

133 Watching the riots on fox.

Thinking that Po-Po cars should have a remote self-destruct would be kind of cool.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (JOG+K)

134 Beating the crap out of one protester

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (rDqRv)

135 The Lovely and fetching Mrs VIA's office is sending some staff out early so they can get home.
Live tv shows a pack of what can best be called feral youths on the prowl.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (VPLuQ)

136 113 There is a story out there about a pastor being threated with jail time for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremony. Didn't take long for that which is not expressly forbidden to become mandatory.
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:27 PM (ztOda)

I recall our "betters" in the media, et all claiming, with their hands to their fluttering bosoms, that no church would EVER be forced to perform a gay wedding. It was just giving gays the same rights as straights.

Right.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (x303I)

137 Nice that someone's traditional views are considered a 'heinous crime' now.

Keep pushing fuckers

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (G3Gsu)

138 evidently the judge was threatening to raise the fine if they had managed to raise enough to pay through gofundme

What the f*cking f*ck?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:29 PM (kff5f)

139
The lesbos are seeking revenge because they are fat, butt-ugly misfits who secretly wish they were normal, and even when they profess to be proud of their lesbianism, they deep down loath themselves and wish they had been born something other than a sexually frustrated taco muncher.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (P330y)

140 Cops took down a slow member of the pack.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (gMa4k)

141 oh boy did that cop car get fucked.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (AkOaV)

142 Ex-lax makes a nice substitute for chocolate

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Perfectly Pierced Clitoris at April 27, 2015 04:25 PM (XlHZs)


You're advocating poisoning someone? Not such a good idea.

(Yes, that is exactly what the charge sheet will read. You won't be before an administrative judge you will be in front of a real one and looking at incarceration.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (hLRSq)

143 Yes, please boycott GoFundMe! Americans will see a mob of rabbid conservatives going after a company that refuses to be used to reward people for bigotry and hatred.

Posted by: Ella Binsburg, PhD at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (m6UP7)

144 Where can one watch the Bal'mer riots?

I'm watching through Amazon fire stick>CBSN

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (xQX/f)

145 Crazy. I took the wife and kids to the O's/Red Sox game yesterday. Had no problems and had a blast.Forsome reason, Budweiser in analuminum bottle justs tatstes better at a ballgame.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (OD2ni)

146 Someone needs to set up a GoFundMe account to raise funds to start up a fund a project web site.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (dBm7S)

147 I recall our "betters" in the media, et all claiming, with their hands to their fluttering bosoms, that no church would EVER be forced to perform a gay wedding. It was just giving gays the same rights as straights.



*cough*Gabe*cough*

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (evdj2)

148 oh boy did that cop car get fucked.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (AkOaV)

Looks like Flounders car did

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (rDqRv)

149 I'll have to ask my doctor, but I'm pretty sure denying me cake was part of losing weight.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (ztOda)

150 Cops took down a slow member of the pack.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (gMa4k)


slow-slow or less quick?

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (sWgE+)

151 and that one cop with the rifle just swept his rifle in front of 2 different cops... twice.

Doesnt sound like gun safety to me. If my colleague was aiming a rifle at me, I'd be pissed.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (AkOaV)

152 Forsome reason, Budweiser in analuminum bottle justs tatstes better at a ballgame.

----

When you spend $10 on a beer, the mind will make you think it is the best beer ever.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (gmeXX)

153 "a $135,000 fine for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake."

Isn't there something in the Constitution - if not common law and common decency - against such ridiculously excessive fines and punishments?

Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (J6suc)

154 I assume that since GoFundMe cancelled the fundraiser, all the funds revert back to the people that originally donated them? Hopefully those people turn back around and donate to Samaritan's Purse, hopefully word gets out to them.

But I'll admit, half of the high of the crowdfunding sites is seeing the donation amount go up and up and up. Does Samaritan's purse release updates on donation amounts?

Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (yRwC8)

155 The Gay Fascists stormed an Arkansas meeting of black churchs recently regarding the defense of marriage. If the GOP has any smarts, they'd be placing people very close to these black churches and making the case for dumping the Democratic party.

I'm not optimistic on seeing this happen but it sure would be something to see the Dems trade religious blacks for gays.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (Orv1g)

156 Hey, any Lawyer here want to help me open up a ConservativeFundUs site to counter the that fuck liberal site?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (rDqRv)

157 119 Destroying a $50,000 cop car and nobody is doing anything.

What is wrong with people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (rDqRv)


Sanctioned by the mayor of Balt.
Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:28 PM (sWgE+)

Paid for by the Taxpayer.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (YCG8H)

158 slow-slow or less quick?


Someone who hung around a little too long.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (gMa4k)

159 They are running amuck in Baltimore. 7 officers injured.

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (iQIUe)

160 Yes. Destroy GoFundMe. *AFTER* You have donated to my GoFundMe to publish my book.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (kff5f)


------------------------------------------------


Finally. A commenter with principles.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (/HX7u)

161 Does Samaritan's purse release updates on donation amounts?
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (yRwC

What is Samaritan's purse?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (rDqRv)

162 Finally. A commenter with principles.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:32 PM (/HX7u)




That's a funny way to spell "priorities."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (kff5f)

163 I'm still waiting for Ace's post calling for secession, it was a pretty interesting read this weekend.

Posted by: Cashin at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (ANCC/)

164 Interesting, PG County tactical vehicle in Baltimore

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (VPLuQ)

165
Cops took down a slow member of the pack.

the old saying is true,you don't have to be the fastest you just have to be faster than the slowest

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (lKyWE)

166 How can being denied cake cause you to become so emotionally overwhelmed you cannot function?

The ratio of cake to people is too small.

Posted by: Milton Waddams at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (/kI1Q)

167 Yes. Destroy GoFundMe.



*AFTER* You have donated to my GoFundMe to publish my book.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 04:26 PM (kff5f)

Eddie Murphy in a dreadlock wig sings:
Kill the white peopleBut buy my record fiiiriirst.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (OrI3J)

168 Be a great day to rob a bank on the other side of Baltimore

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:33 PM (rDqRv)

169 Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:22 PM (g1DWB)

Isn't about cake, wedding or otherwise. This case is just a symptom of what is driving us apart as a nation. It will end badly.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (O9qtX)

170 And when people were warned that militant gay groups would do exactly this, they said it was just paranoia and homophobia.
=======
<koff> Gabe <koff>

And don't forget dismissing it as "crazy talk of a ridiculous slippery slope."

Remember: The whole thing in Indiana was over a religious freedom law.

The same type of law that, IIRC, Gabe had said would be a prefect protection for religions should gay marriage be legalized.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (ZvKdv)

171 Officer down, and unresponsive.


Seems to be spreading

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (VPLuQ)

172 Prayers for you wife and her co-workers VIA, for safe travel home.

Baltimore was a mess before this, but with the mayor sanctioning destruction by the thugs, there is no way in hell I would give that city a dime of my money.

Texas is looking like the place to retire. I'm ready to go back home.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (x303I)

173 Pastors to jail story: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (ztOda)

174 Cops starting to say, "fuck this shit".

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (xQX/f)

175 Interesting, PG County tactical vehicle in Baltimore



The black and purple smart car with a turret?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (gMa4k)

176 Be a great day to rob a bank on the other side of Baltimore

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Simon Gruber at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (9Z8lH)

177 >>>> There is a story out there about a pastor being threated with jail time for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremony.

UP NEXT: Militant gays turning straight weddings into political theatre.

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (3ZtZW)

178 Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (J6suc)

8th amendment?

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.[2]

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (AkOaV)

179 Officer down, and unresponsive.
Seems to be spreading



And so it begins......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (gMa4k)

180 They wont be happy until we are all anallyprobed...

Posted by: Bruce J. at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (iQIUe)

181 Cops starting to say, "fuck this shit".

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:34 PM (xQX/f)


Barney get your bullet.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (sWgE+)

182 151 and that one cop with the rifle just swept his rifle in front of 2 different cops... twice.

Doesnt sound like gun safety to me. If my colleague was aiming a rifle at me, I'd be pissed.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (AkOaV)


I know. I know. But those rifles haven't had rounds in them in 20 years.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 04:35 PM (48QDY)

183 The Dems had high hopes the Occupy Wall Street crowd was going to do
more to terrorize the country. Turned out they were mostly just trust
fund babies and the usual liberal riff-raff and weren't up to the task.
They lost interest after the drum circles faded and the dope smoke
cleared and have returned to their parents basements to be keyboard
SJW's .

So now the Dems have pinned their hopes on the Black
Lives Matter thugs and things are looking up for the revolution. Dems
are getting the violence they want.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (1BQGO)

184
"When you spend $10 on a beer, the mind will make you think it is the best beer ever."

$8, but I see your point!!

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (OD2ni)

185 whoa are those people looting a police car?!

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (AkOaV)

186 The SJW who led the mob to kill the GoFundMe campaign owns her own bakery in Portland OR called "Cupcake Jones"

It's the Chicago Way ...

http://tinyurl.com/ksd9gvp

Posted by: kbdabear at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (GrXXa)

187 Well isn't that special. Just got notice from my insurance on how much I owe for my MRI and follow up appointment. $1000.

Thanks Obamacare!

So how do I start one them there go fund me thingies?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (g1DWB)

188 The beauty of the Internet is it allowed conservatives to discover we are not alone. The tragedy is that we also learned we are surrounded.

Posted by: jwpaine at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (0bXhD)

189 It's all fun and games until cops get hurt. Then it's ass kicking time.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (gMa4k)

190 How about the Chik-Fil-A owner giver the Baker the 135,000 and he can set up a GoFundMe account to invest in hate Cakes.

Speaking of, Chik-Fil-A does catering. Why no attempt to make them cater a wedding?

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:36 PM (dBm7S)

191 ...and now the feed is blue.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:37 PM (AkOaV)

192 One cop 'broken bones' one officer 'unresponsive'.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:37 PM (xQX/f)

193 And just wait until the millions upon millions of illegal aliens, err, new Americans, the SCOAMF has been importing seek their piece of the social justice pie.

Im starting to think the civil war of 1861 is going to be a walk in the park compared to what I fear is coming.

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2015 04:37 PM (F/9QB)

194 It's not about the cake, is it?

It's never about the cake.
See: Fen's Law

Posted by: McCool at April 27, 2015 04:37 PM (nCSwS)

195 I guess the "mostly peaceful" part of the protest program is over.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM (JO9+V)

196 FNC cops and rioters-now the blue screen of death

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM (X+nFp)

197 Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride."

It's called "Bad Luck", and yes, it's going to get bumpy indeed.

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM (KnbYp)

198 It's never about the cake.


I'm all about the cake.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM (/kI1Q)

199 Should be some nice fires in Baltimore tonight

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (rDqRv)

200 The cake is a lie.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (evdj2)

201 By the way, if we do have a national divorce what is happening in Baltimore will be a daily occurrence on the other side.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (g1DWB)

202 I would rather give the bakers the some money to help them leave that crazy State.

Or fight the fine in court. Yeah, I know. The courts have been fucking us for decades.

There is no fucking way a fine in excess of $100 should be levied without a jury trial.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (V70Uh)

203 I want to be the girl with the most cake.

Posted by: Courtney Love at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (JtwS4)

204 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM (X+nFp)

Probably too many people streaming it.

Technology, gotta love it.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (AkOaV)

205 oh its back. maybe they were just switching camera feeds.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:39 PM (AkOaV)

206 I get no sound from the fox live feed

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:40 PM (JO9+V)

207 I bet Chick-Fil-A would cater the Wedding. But not on Sunday.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 27, 2015 04:40 PM (V70Uh)

208 The same type of law that, IIRC, Gabe had said would be a prefect protection for religions should gay marriage be legalized.

And of course Gabe was 100% for the RFRA. Vociferous, in fact. However, he (and most other lawyers) seem to think that their perfectly rational and legally-consistent view of the world will be adopted in full by the corrupt legal profession and our fascist judiciary.

Nope.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:40 PM (L2xDv)

209 MRI and follow up appointment. $1000.
Thanks Obamacare!
So how do I start one them there go fund me thingies?


It may only be good for sex changes now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (W5DcG)

210 Live feed

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/show/cbs-baltimore-live-video/

Watch the commercial first, then it plays

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (VPLuQ)

211 Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:40 PM (JO9+V)

Confirm no sound from fox online feed.


Shit, it's free, stop complaining.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (AkOaV)

212 Previously I didn't give a damn about who was queer, as long as they weren't shoving that shit in my face. Now I am beginning to hate those people.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (xWW96)

213 Nevergiveup-

Samaritan's Purse is a charity started by Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son. He's a lot more grounded than his daddy, is a conservative, and created the organization in response to the war in Bosnia/Herzegovina, by sending shoeboxes with small toys, flashlights, socks, mittens, etc to distribute to the children in the fray. The response was massive-with many Bosnian converts to Christianity because of it. Hubby saw it first hand when he was there during the war.

Now, it continues the shoebox ministry, but also has an alternative to heifer international, a secular/Rockefeller charity that provides farm/agricultural aide to impoverished people. Samaritan's purse also sponsors missionary doctors/nurses and infrastructure investment. It is a solid organization, and spends more than 10% of its donations on actual charity. (it's actually closer to 50 or 60% I think.)

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (x303I)

214 I get no sound from the fox live feed
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2015 04:40 PM (JO9+V)

Don't worry, the picture is the show

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (rDqRv)

215 I'm starting to wonder if the left will allow a president Cruz, Walker, etc. They almost stole the presidency from George W. Bush. They'll go farther this time. Last minute court orders overturning close elections, blatant illegal votes cast, dirty lawfare - they've skirted around the edges, but how much longer will they tolerate anything to the right of Jeb Bush?

Posted by: Old Hob at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (ZufZo)

216 It's not about the cake. It's about what is written in icing on the cake.

Free Speech.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (V70Uh)

217 Should be some nice fires in Baltimore tonight"

It's going to be rather cold (despite Global Climate Instability and Change) in the old town tonight. Want to put this down with minimal collateral damage? Haul out the fire hoses around sunset. Nothing like 30 degree temps and a good soaking...

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (KnbYp)

218 Previously I didn't give a damn about who was queer, as long as they weren't shoving that shit in my face. Now I am beginning to hate those people.
Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (xWW96)

second that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (rDqRv)

219 By the way, if we do have a national divorce what is happening in Baltimore will be a daily occurrence on the other side.



Nah. Bodies will be stacked like cord wood. Not this "keep a running three blocks separation between cops and protestors". Show up to a war with rocks.......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (gMa4k)

220 I'm getting local live feed from wbaltv: http://bit.ly/1dlPpdU

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (JtwS4)

221 Having a different opinion is hate, and evil, and illegal.

We are *there now*, not just "that's where we're heading."

Dissent is being criminalized right now. The IRS and Wisconsin and Oregon are just on the leading edge of that.

If it hasn't hit you yet, be thankful.

People do need to form groups to stand up to it, because alone you'll get squished like a bug.

The left really thinks it's justified in *anything* it does to you, because they've defined you as irredeemably evil, which they needed in order to justify doing the things they want to you.

That's why they can single you out for an audit or raid your home at 4am or threaten to raise your fine if you manage to pay for it, which is all completely bugfuck insane.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (bLnSU)

222 cbs baltimore feed (different cameras) comes with sound.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)

223 >>It may only be good for sex changes now.

Yep. Looks like I am going to be living with this balky shoulder for a while. Unless I want to trade it in on a vagina.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (g1DWB)

224 Screw the national divorce. How about we crowdfund a Starship Enterprise and leave this rock to the fecking liberals and other nutcases?

Posted by: jjod at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (0r7PZ)

225 New secret cake ingredient: human excrement. Oh wait, that's the icing. Urine is the special batter ingredient. At least, that's what I'd use to make the cake.

Eh, who am I kidding? I would never bake the cake. Because fcuk them.

Posted by: physics geek at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (MT22W)

226 whoa are those people looting a police car?!

Used to be that trying to get into an unmanned police vehicle would get you shot; because there are weapons inside.

Now the Baltimore Mayor has a theory that the crowd will cry themselves to sleep if you don't interrupt them.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (jhqr1)

227 But first, You Will . . .

Fund Me.

- Mel Gibson

Posted by: oblig. at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (72D6h)

228 This was anticipated, as police had copies of texts from students referring to a planned "Purge" just like in the movie "The Purge" after school by the students

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (VPLuQ)

229 The cake is a lie.

Posted by: GLAADos at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (1FyZ2)

230 Baltimore cop scanners or are they scrambled?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (X+nFp)

231 "random group of looters" according to cbs baltimore.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)

232 oh its back. maybe they were just switching camera feeds.



Yeah. Now it's eye level instead of in the air.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (gMa4k)

233 Previously I didn't give a damn about who was queer, as long as they weren't shoving that shit in my face. Now I am beginning to hate those people.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (xWW96)


They are insisting that you will care. That is usually a mistake.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (hLRSq)

234 I want a cross-hair view.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (evdj2)

235 When will conservatives reach the point where they just tell the bigots to have some common sense and bake the cake? Is this whole melodrama really worth it? Is it reasonable to endanger your familys financial future just so you dont have to associate with icky lgbtqia people?

Posted by: Ella Binsburg, PhD at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (m6UP7)

236 By the way, if we do have a national divorce what is happening in Baltimore will be a daily occurrence on the other side.


For a week or two, then the food will run out.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (ztOda)

237 'Credible threats' from gang members to 'take out' police officers.

Folks get 'motional.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (xQX/f)

238 Cops are BACKING UP---Cops should never back up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (rDqRv)

239
How about we crowdfund a Starship Enterprise and leave this rock to the fecking liberals and other nutcases?


can we at least hit them with a couple of photon torpedos on the way out?

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (lKyWE)

240 Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:43 PM (jhqr1)

Seriously. Aren't their shotguns in the trunk? And tens of thousands of dollars of electronic equipment? That decrypts police communication and FBI databases and stuff?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (AkOaV)

241 Freaking Civil War is about to start and right when my golf game is hitting on all cylinders. My luck is I'll win the lottery right when everything comes crashing down.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (dBm7S)

242 The cake is a lie.
Posted by: GLAADos


The issue, in a nutshell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (DT3rQ)

243 Previously I didn't give a damn about who was queer, as long as they weren't shoving that shit in my face"

We're Here, We're Queer, and We're In Your Face -

80's chant. Hardly newsworthy today.

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (KnbYp)

244 Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:45 PM (lKyWE)

Why don't we pull a move from Star Trek 4: the voyage home, and slingshot around the sun in a bird of prey and go back in time?

Just aim farther back than the '80s.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (AkOaV)

245 Cops are BACKING UP---Cops should never back up

Unless you need room for a charge or are luring them into a trap. Which neither will likely happen.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (DT3rQ)

246 Baltimore cop scanners or are they scrambled?

Usually you can listen to all the chatter except that which is on the encrypted tactical channels.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (jhqr1)

247 "can we at least hit them with a couple of photon torpedos on the way out?"

of course!

Posted by: jjod at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (0r7PZ)

248

We're straight!
We mate!
Get used to it!

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:46 PM (evdj2)

249 Are we ignoring the troll at 235? I don't recall that nic, so I am supposing it's a new astroturfer.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (x303I)

250 CVS being looted on air.

They could end all this by appointing me police chief of Baltimore for a few days.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (9ZZd+)

251 will conservatives reach the point where they just tell the bigots to have some common sense and bake the cake? Is this whole melodrama really worth it? Is it reasonable to endanger your familys financial future just so you dont have to associate with icky lgbtqia people?

Posted by: Ella Binsburg, PhD at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM (m6UP7)



You want the lesbians to bake their own cake for their own wedding? What kind of fiend are you?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (hLRSq)

252 The cops are firing tear-gas now. Smoke 'em out, boys.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (/HX7u)

253 Ha! Look at all those people looting CVS. Don't they care that there are helicopters above their heads video taping them?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (AkOaV)

254 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (evdj2)

255 The "Let It Burn" crowd must have a huge collective woody right now.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (2cS/G)

256 The Internet seems to be speeding everything up.

By my calculations, we'll get our Napoleon by September.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (L2xDv)

257 79 Betting there is a gofundme out there for at least one of the murderous Lefty heroes like Mumia. Maybe it's high time to out the Left on ALL their hypocrisy.

The left? The American people are one with the left. Either they are leftist themselves or they agree with its goals or they are complicit by omission. Americans are complicit in these acts by their government, and morally culpable.

Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (J6suc)

258 11 of the Twelve didn't take their 30 pieces of silver. They're not even getting that much to betray their morals and advance scandal in this world.

Baker's need to enter into agreements with churches to sell their wedding cakes. No direct, over the counter sales.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 04:48 PM (ztOda)

259 255- I laughed. I admit it.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:48 PM (x303I)

260 "very peaceful protests evolved in to spontaneous looting"

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:48 PM (AkOaV)

261 Ace, this is why your idea of a "divorce" from these people is not a workable idea.

The Left will NEVER leave others alone, it's in their DNA to harass, attack, and kill those who do not belong to their tribe.

Robert Ringer, author of "Winning Through Intimidation" once wrote that "world peace" was impossible because one man's idea of utopia was to be left alone on his ranch while others idea of utopia was to seize his ranch and chop it up into tiny plots of land for "the poor"




Posted by: kbdabear at April 27, 2015 04:48 PM (GrXXa)

262 >>> Cops are BACKING UP---Cops should never back up

OOO this is the part when they roll out the Cave Troll or whatever

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:48 PM (3ZtZW)

263 Does Samaritan's purse release updates on donation amounts?

Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 04:31 PM (yRwC



What is Samaritan's purse?


I do not know if Samaritan's Purse does updates of amounts raised but you can call them at (82 262-1980 (Boone, NC phone number) to ask.



Billy Graham's son Franklin Graham is the current president of Samaritan's Purse and its history can be found at: http://www.samaritanspurse.org/our-ministry/history/


They are a Christian ministry that does a lot of disaster relief and poverty relief and medical missions but they also support persecuted Christians.


Their 4 star Charitable Navigator rating can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/k7aal9y


Here is the Wikipedia entry on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan%27s_Purse



Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (OrI3J)

264 Are we ignoring the troll at 235?"

Methinks we're being rickrolled instead.

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (KnbYp)

265 "Previously I didn't give a damn about who was queer, as long as they weren't shoving that shit in my face. Now I am beginning to hate those people.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (xWW96) "

Same here.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (Orv1g)

266 FESTIVAL!

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (evdj2)

267 Could you use GoFundMe to fundraise a competitor to GoFundMe?

Posted by: through the looking glass at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (9Z8lH)

268 For the billionth time - what does the actual scoreboard show, when the electorate (closest thing to the "culture") was allowed a direct vote on redefining marriage? The "polling" on most issues never has to go up against, you know, actual polling - the kind done by voters. Wasn't marriage redefinition rejected by almost every electorate that got to vote on it?

And how many places were like CA, where the citizens, in effect, had to rebel two or three times to reverse and slap down Sacramento when it tried to cram redefinition down the state's throat? So even the "raw score" on the scoreboard will understate the degree by which this idea has been rejected across the country.

Pure, farcical, outrageous, judicial tyranny will rule the day, of course.Laughably making marriage redefinition a "civil rights" or "equal protection" issue - against all common sense and all relevant facts, and fundamentally abusing the entire concept of equal protection (which is pretty much in the rear-view mirror anyway, in a system with affirmative action, "protected classes", and other ridiculous contradictions of basic principles).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (afQnV)

269 Police spokesman is reading the riot act at a press conference

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (VPLuQ)

270 If there has to be a store looting, better that it's CVS. I own stock in Walgreens.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (dBm7S)

271 255 The "Let It Burn" crowd must have a huge collective woody right now.
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (2cS/G)

I can understand that it's disturbing to you, but facts is facts.

Let it burn.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (QRz0C)

272 When will conservatives reach the point where they just tell the bigots to have some common sense and bake the cake? Is this whole melodrama really worth it? Is it reasonable to endanger your familys financial future just so you dont have to associate with icky lgbtqia people?

You're assuming people are choosing to endanger their livelihoods due to bigotry. I understand that's the caricature, but in the cases we're discussing it's not true.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (jhqr1)

273 Could you use GoFundMe to fundraise a competitor to GoFundMe?

Heinous.

Posted by: GoFundMe at April 27, 2015 04:50 PM (evdj2)

274 LOL... Samaritan's Purse phone number is 828-262-1980... there is no smiley face in it :-P

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:50 PM (OrI3J)

275
"FESTIVAL"


You will be absorbed!!

Posted by: Landru at April 27, 2015 04:50 PM (OD2ni)

276 This is why your divorce idea won't work, ace. The other side cannot bear that that any opposition exists. They don't want us out of sight out of mind. They want us annihilated.

Oh and, by the by, I hate with the passion of 10,000 burning suns that everyone on both sides is demanding this of me, but fine. Fuck it.

OF COURSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS! Of course not. Not at all. Not in the teeniest tiniest little itty bitiest way.

I hope that clears that up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)

277 MTA Police vehicle full enflamed

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (VPLuQ)

278 Oh the yutes started a police car on fire.

How quaint. Just like in Europe. Yay.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (AkOaV)

279 You "understand" that it's "disturbing" to me? Tell you what, jackass, you understand nothing about me or what disturbs me. Fucktard. Go build a bunker.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (2cS/G)

280 GoFundMe has ALSO blocked the GoFundMe campaign to help ARLENE'S FLOWERS, run by a 70-year-old lady, Barronelle Stutzman.

See the AllianceDefendingFreedom dot org website for details. Same thing: Christian florist targeted by homosexual activists for destruction. She has served, And employed, gay people for years; now that she has politely asked to be excused from catering a homosexual "wedding," she is in the cross-hairs.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (U7ssf)

281 GoFundMe has shut down the campaign for arlene's flowers as well.

Daily Signal has the story
http://is.gd/zZdYuq

I think the bullies are now just roaming the streets looking for victims, drunk on their own power.

Posted by: Less at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (PGXeZ)

282 Wow. This is really blowing up. 7 cops reported with broken bones, cop cars on fire .. this is getting insane.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (g1DWB)

283 Baltimore sure has a lot of rocks and chunks of concrete laying around.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (xQX/f)

284 Are we ignoring the troll at 235? I don't recall that nic, so I am supposing it's a new astroturfer.
Posted by: Moki


It's a sock.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (gMa4k)

285 Thanks Obama! Just got off the phone with cable co. Time Warner increased price of internet $3/mo. So I ask, what's up with that and rep says not their increase... it's new taxes, local and federal. Bit by bit....

Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (84SRe)

286 Another Robert Ringer quote on "Peace on Earth" and very relevant to Ace's writings on tribal attitudes, AKA Otherization

http://robertringer.com/tap/peace-on-earth-is-a/

Posted by: kbdabear at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (GrXXa)

287 I don't know about cake, but a lack of Pie can cause serious medical complications.

Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (WzbCv)

288 "This is why your divorce idea won't work, ace. The other side cannot bear that that any opposition exists"

Yup. Sorta like a caliphate.

Posted by: Feh at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (3eG8o)

289 If there has to be a store looting, better that it's CVS. I own stock in Walgreens.
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:49 PM (dBm7S)


Well if there is a CVS there must be a Walgreens on the opposite corner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (W5DcG)

290

Ella Binsburg, PhD



you have no concept of faith do you?

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (lKyWE)

291 >>Betting there is a gofundme out there for at least one of the murderous Lefty heroes like Mumia.

The thing is, the Left goes way beyond GoFundMe and uses all sorts of other funding sources, such as government grants, 501C non-profits, etc. They can swoop in and assist as needed.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (2TN4k)

292
"If there has to be a store looting, better that it's CVS. I own stock in Walgreens."



Kind of a waste for the looters cince CVS does not sell beer in MAryland (except for Ocean City, oddly enough).

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (OD2ni)

293 Police car burning now.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (/HX7u)

294 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)

I don't understand ?

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (dBm7S)

295 Using gofundme to raise money to start a rival gofundme is not heinous but meta

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (3ZtZW)

296 Wow. This is really blowing up. 7 cops reported with broken bones, cop cars on fire .. this is getting insane.



Now the yutes are gonna get a crash course on riots.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (gMa4k)

297 "I hope that clears that up."

I don't understand how anyone could have thought you supported this, ATC. I certainly never thought that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (QRz0C)

298 >>Kind of a waste for the looters cince CVS does not sell beer in MAryland (except for Ocean City, oddly enough).

Pretty sure all of 'em sell drugs.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (g1DWB)

299 "Baltimore sure has a lot of rocks and chunks of concrete laying around."


Pretty obvious that we in Baltimore need stricter rock and brick control laws.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:53 PM (VPLuQ)

300 Baltimore sure has a lot of rocks and chunks of concrete laying around.

Even in places where this isn't the case, they just break up concrete with whatever's at hand.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:54 PM (jhqr1)

301 113 There is a story out there about a pastor being threated with jail time for refusing to perform gay wedding ceremony. Didn't take long for that which is not expressly forbidden to become mandatory.


Snowden is going to have a lot of company when people start fleeing to Russia and begging Putin for asylum.

Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 04:54 PM (J6suc)

302 Austin Texas folks...
http://www.meetup.com/Morons/

Posted by: Grad School Fool at April 27, 2015 04:54 PM (A9KzJ)

303 Oh shit, Baltimore Police just smoked some 'peaceful protestor' with a legendary July 4rth device.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 04:54 PM (xQX/f)

304 Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (g1DWB)

Wake me up when the Koreans start sniping from the roofs.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:54 PM (AkOaV)

305
Now, it continues the shoebox ministry, but also
has an alternative to heifer international, a secular/Rockefeller
charity that provides farm/agricultural aide to impoverished people.
Samaritan's purse also sponsors missionary doctors/nurses and
infrastructure investment. It is a solid organization, and spends more
than 10% of its donations on actual charity. (it's actually closer to 50
or 60% I think.)

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 04:41 PM (x303I)


According to their financials, 89.3% goes to the actual charitable work which I think is damn good.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (OrI3J)

306 THEY DEMAND THE RIGHT TO CRUCIFY EMMANUEL GOLDSTEIN.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (gwDMH)

307 I'm all about the cake.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 04:38 PM


No trifle?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (h4vJk)

308 The List.
It just keeps getting longer.

Posted by: teej at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (mJRr3)

309 Is it reasonable to endanger your familys financial future just so you dont have to associate with icky lgbtqia people?

Defying Satan's Kingdom is *always* worth it.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (ZbV+0)

310 AtC...

You're a Moron.


And a good one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (VPLuQ)

311 At least this small group of individuals are looting the CVS peacefully.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (9ZZd+)

312 The "Let It Burn" crowd must have a huge collective woody right now.

The only ones letting anything burn in these riots is who, again? Hint: Not us.

Have fun raging against that falling anvil, Wile E.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (DT3rQ)

313 I support AtC. If I've ever implied you need to denounce any of this I apologize.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:56 PM (jhqr1)

314 >>> except for Ocean City

Did you say Hessian City?

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:57 PM (3ZtZW)

315 Just got a text from kids school stating that all field trips and other activities in Baltimore are cancelled until further notice. Gee, ya think. Of course, I am sure some SJW parent will accuse them of being racists.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2015 04:57 PM (OD2ni)

316 Pretty obvious that we in Baltimore need stricter rock and brick control laws.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice


Assault minerals.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 04:57 PM (LAe3v)

317 Oh shit, Baltimore Police just smoked some 'peaceful protestor' with a legendary July 4rth device.

Uh-oh. Define 'smoked' in this context, please?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:57 PM (DT3rQ)

318 When will conservatives reach the point where they just tell the bigots to have some common sense and bake the cake?
Posted by: Ella Binsburg, PhD at April 27, 2015 04:44 PM


Oh, I dunno. I think people saying they won't bake a cake for a wedding - but will at ANY OTHER time - are far, far, far less bigoted than those who think the bakers don't have a right to their own thoughts.

Jus sayin.

Trolls gotta troll.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 04:57 PM (V+kmg)

319 OK gots to go

Posted by: Bigby's Wristband at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (3ZtZW)

320 Baker's need to enter into agreements with churches to sell their wedding cakes. No direct, over the counter sales.

So here's the thing: This is pretty much trolling. Very few bakers or florists will turn down a job like this. A gay wedding (actually, wedding *reception*, which has no legal standing) is just a party.

That's it. Just a party. A little theater too. That's it. The really devout Christian would see a secular gay wedding no different from any secular, Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu wedding.

But I think that now I would oppose serving gay weddings on principle. Because I like to be able to say no.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (L2xDv)

321 There are so many cops and shit around, why is this CVS being looted still?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (AkOaV)

322
gays only have rights as long as there are functioning western democracys to enforce them.once that breaks down they are done

Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (lKyWE)

323 The "Let It Burn" crowd must have a huge collective woody right now.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (2cS/G)

You are, as always, a fool

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (ZbV+0)

324 I support AtC out of respect for her humanity and fear of the Ravage.

It's best not to say which is the majority of the reason.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (DT3rQ)

325 While the police are distracted watching the peaceful protests, who is keeping track of hate groups like the Tea Party?

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (9ZZd+)

326 Frankly, I was only being half-sarcastic. Isn't this exactly what the Let It Burn crowd has been clamoring for, vocally and repeatedly, for years on this site? What exactly do you think the "Burn" will look like if not Baltimore, Ferguson, etc. Tell me. And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it to happen.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (2cS/G)

327 This is why it's going to end. Either with a bang or a whimper, but it's going to end.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (mx5oN)

328 They must have a shitload of cops in B'more. 9 standing around a paddy wagon while one guy was put inside.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (gMa4k)

329 "why is this CVS being looted still?"


Cause there's still stuff in it to steal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (VPLuQ)

330 It's best not to say which is the majority of the reason.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (DT3rQ)


OK then.

*locks Ravage paddock*

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (V+kmg)

331 Love and despair.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (evdj2)

332 For some odd reason... These gays remind me of the Katie Kaboom segments on Animaniacs...

A political subclass consisting of pms'ing teenage girls.

Posted by: Phil at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (39FGM)

333 Some student up here in WA fired two shots in his High School this morning. A teacher tackled the kid and nobody got shot.

N Thurston High. AP Civics and Gov't teacher named Brady Olson took the kid down.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (jhqr1)

334 And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it to happen.

Go fuck yourself with the Chrystler Building wrapped in rusty, radioactive razorwire, turned sideways.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (DT3rQ)

335 OF COURSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS! Of course not. Not at all. Not in the teeniest tiniest little itty bitiest way.

I hope that clears that up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)


Wait, you mean someone actually asked whether or not you agreed with this bullshit?

Posted by: physics geek at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (MT22W)

336 According to their financials, 89.3% goes to the actual charitable work which I think is damn good.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 04:55 PM (OrI3J)

Wow, that's better than I thought. As I mentioned, my husband was in Bosnia, and worked with a local church on the weekends. It was packed, with people standing around the outside, listening at windows every time they met, and many of the newcomers were former Muslims who had received aid/shoeboxes from Samaritan's Purse. Good people, mostly volunteers who work with the organization.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (x303I)

337 What exactly do you think the "Burn" will look like if not Baltimore, Ferguson, etc. Tell me. And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it to happen.
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (2cS/G)


I'm totes OK with majority Dem cities burning.

Sooner or later, people will wake up to what Dem governance buys them.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (V+kmg)

338 >>There are so many cops and shit around, why is this CVS being looted still?


Because it's not empty yet?

Posted by: Aviator at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (sQzB6)

339 Conservative Treehouse has live feed.... Orioles have a home game tonight at 6pmCST vs the WHITE Sox... just sayin' ... I cannot imagine the rioters are not going to want to try to get back to Camden Yards... cause that's how they'll get the most bang for their buck..... and MLB and Baltimore cannot allow that to occur again.... if the cops try to control it, it's likely to be bad.

Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (84SRe)

340 Uh-oh. Define 'smoked' in this context, please?

Sparks, all around. Cloud of white smoke all around individual. Individual not getting up.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (xQX/f)

341 OK then.

*locks Ravage paddock*


/checks to make sure the Ravage is still IN the paddock

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (DT3rQ)

342 oh the reporter on the ground just let it out of the bag...

she said baltimore city high school students were the ones throwing shit at cops

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (AkOaV)

343 Why does the phrase " take this cake and shove it up your ass" keep going thru my head?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (rDqRv)

344 Wake me up when the Koreans start sniping from the roofs.

Posted by: mynewhandle


It occurs to me that you see a lot fewer startup Korean businesses than you used to. I suppose it's because the mother country is richer, so the draw of coming to the US and dealing with the dregs of humanity is lessened. OTOH, if the Norks ever fall, we can look forward to an influx from Pyongyang. Silver linings.




Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (LAe3v)

345 The Right really needs to step up its legal game and make examples of these companies

Posted by: McAdams at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (y/Vkz)

346 I just checked on the Gofundme for Arnelle's Flowers. It seems to have been cancelled. Can anyone confirm that?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (QyBQv)

347 /checks to make sure the Ravage is still IN the paddock
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (DT3rQ)


You're good.

For now.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (V+kmg)

348 Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:20 PM (2TN4k)

How long would it take for a judge to order that as a business you have no right to display religious items? Not long.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (nRvEn)

349 *locks Ravage paddock*

/checks to make sure the Ravage is still IN the paddock

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM


Clever boy....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (h4vJk)

350 Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 04:58 PM (ZbV

He's no fool. He's correctly pointing out that 'the Let It Burn' advocates are getting their wish. Unless of course they were just posing when the continually repeated it. What did they think Let It Burn meant?

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (dBm7S)

351 I just checked on the Gofundme for Arnelle's Flowers. It seems to have been cancelled. Can anyone confirm that?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:01 PM (QyBQv)


They made their goal...and then some.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (V+kmg)

352 If it hasn't already been mentioned, Samaritins Purse has picked up the money raising for these folks.

http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/christian-couple-faces-135000-fine/

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (u4Y3i)

353 Time to rename the company: GoEffMe.

To me, this episode is one of the lower threshold reasons I have faith in a loving God and eternal life. I refuse to believe that good people, living their lives as they see fit, can be destroyed by the deviant and thuggish -- and that this is all there is, with no hope for final justice. Otherwise, the rest of us are the rubes, and the Clintons, Kardashians, Sopranos, et al, are the ones to emulate.

I refuse to believe it.

Posted by: red speck at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (9/Ug/)

354 321" There are so many cops and shit around, why is this CVS being looted still?"


We wouldn't want the police to discriminate against the late looters in favor of the early looters, would we?

Maybe some people had to wait to get off work or to finish school before they were able to loot. Do we want to send a message that working or educations puts you at a disadvantage in terms of looting?

Be fair.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 05:02 PM (9ZZd+)

355 >>329 "why is this CVS being looted still?"



Fortunately, they stopped selling tobacco products.

Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (WzbCv)

356 Why does the phrase " take this cake and shove it up your ass" keep going thru my head?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
---------------

I think that was the moral of 'The Little Red Hen' story...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (QyBQv)

357 >>Why does the phrase " take this cake and shove it up your ass" keep going thru my head?

Toss in a bottle or two of champagne and it's a party.

Posted by: Steve Kroft at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (sQzB6)

358 "I'm totes OK with majority Dem cities burning. "

Thanks Sean....
No...
Really.

Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (VPLuQ)

359 Let it fucking burn.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (evdj2)

360 The thing is, the Left goes way beyond GoFundMe and uses all sorts of other funding sources, such as government grants, 501C non-profits, etc. They can swoop in and assist as needed.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 04:52 PM (2TN4k)

You forgot that megacrapton weapon, the ACLU.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (kXoT0)

361 Oooh, that sounds like a really fancy wire, Cavil, I'm horrified by the notion of it inserted in my anus! You are a true badass.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (2cS/G)

362 I never imagined that I would live to see my nation destroyed. I never imagined that I would go from loving what my country was to hating what it has become.

Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 05:04 PM (J6suc)

363 Thanks Sean....
No...
Really.
Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:03 PM (VPLuQ)


Hey, Alexandria, VA here.

Dem majority for decades.

Riots coming soon to a street corner near me.

*checks gun safe*

Yup, I'm good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:04 PM (V+kmg)

364 I am soooo glad I sold my place in Boston and beat feet for the urban life.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (g1DWB)

365 Boy looks like my friends from Israel are going to get a show- they will feel right at home

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (rDqRv)

366 How long would it take for a judge to order that as a business you have no right to display religious items? Not long.

Just put up some Islam symbols and you can refuse service to anyone you please.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (jhqr1)

367 AP Civics and Gov't teacher named Brady Olson took the kid down.

How long before he gets fired for "inappropriately touching" the shooter?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (/kI1Q)

368 I guess Gofundme should give back their commissions on the Pizza Moneybomb, then.

Otherwise they're h8y-h8rs.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (gwDMH)

369 I am soooo glad I sold my place in Boston and beat feet for the urban life.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (g1DWB)


I dunno. South End was nice.

A little too close to Roxbury for my liking but...

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (V+kmg)

370 er, rural not urban,

Brain fart.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:05 PM (g1DWB)

371 Headline on WBAL story is "Juveniles Converge on Baltimore"

Perhaps that refers to the Roman Juvenal who coined the term 'bread and circuses for the people.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (l3vZN)

372 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)

I never thought for a second you'd support this fascist shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (mx5oN)

373 I'm thinking that the best response to the whine of "That makes me uncomfortable!" is "That's called growing pains, get used to it."

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (GDulk)

374 323
The "Let It Burn" crowd must have a huge collective woody right now.



Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:47 PM (2cS/G)

You are, as always, a fool


Posted by: Methos


Why? What did you think "the Burning Times" would look like? Cucumber sandwiches and a discussion group? The fact is that a lot of the "let it burn" talk is just that, talk, and flip talk at that. The consequences will be dire for lots of people as humanity reverts to its default condition.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (LAe3v)

375 They made their goal...and then some.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
------------

Hmm. Are you certain of that? Last I checked, it was short..., and I receive a message today from the organizer, saying that it was still under way.

Can't find any news.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (QyBQv)

376 Should I start preemptively looting the artisanal razor blade shoppe, dog bakery, and microbreweries in my twee historic town?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (KH1sk)

377 There is NO excuse for rioting you dumb fuck shep

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:07 PM (rDqRv)

378 The Reporter may have let the cat out...but it is on the record that the Mall was closed early in response to intel that High School students intended this to be a riot (See reference to "The Purge").

Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:07 PM (VPLuQ)

379 376 Should I start preemptively looting the artisanal razor blade shoppe, dog bakery, and microbreweries in my twee historic town?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (KH1sk)

Absolutely, because f*ck hipsters.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:07 PM (mx5oN)

380 >>I dunno. South End was nice.

Loved the Back Bay. Until Muslim freaks decided to set off a couple bombs a few blocks from my condo.

Loved city living back in the day but liberals are destroying city life in the name of fairness and progress and other bullshit.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (g1DWB)

381 362
I never imagined that I would live to see my nation destroyed. I never
imagined that I would go from loving what my country was to hating what
it has become.

Posted by: despair


Speak it, brother!

Posted by: Romulus Augustus at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (LAe3v)

382 We need a funding site run by people with principles, which does not kowtow to fascists.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (c0co6)

383 Ace,
I'm gonna have to disagree with one aspect of something you tweeted.

The Divorce will not be amicable.

Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (/yNLK)

384 Frankly, I was only being half-sarcastic. Isn't this exactly what the Let It Burn crowd has been clamoring for, vocally and repeatedly, for years on this site? What exactly do you think the "Burn" will look like if not Baltimore, Ferguson, etc. Tell me. And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it to happen.
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 04:59 PM (2cS/G)

If you think it will look like Bodymore Murderland, or Feguson, they you have no idea what you are in for.

Do I want "The Burning" NO.
But, It will happen.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (JOG+K)

385 If being denied a cake ruined these women's lives, then they needed to be told "No" a lot earlier so as to be able to have a sense of perspective.

I've noticed that perspective is invariably missing for SJWs, no matter what their current whine may be.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (GDulk)

386 They're soon going to get the war they want.



And they're not going to like how it ends.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer


I hope you are wrong about the first part, and right about the second.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (/Ho8c)

387 376-I always wondered why the looters immediately went for the large electronics. If I were ever to loot, I would so be at the local Barnes and Noble, or nearest bookstore. But then, i would get distracted looking at the books, and forget to loot. So I guess it's a moot point.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (x303I)

388 *checks gun safe*



Yup, I'm good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion


The wife and I have talked about getting a gun for awhile, and even took the NRA course, but haven't acted on it yet.


I feel a new sense of urgency.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)

389 Anyone who still thinks that gay marriage is just about two people who love each other and want to share their lives together is a fool.

Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (MYCIw)

390 Why? What did you think "the Burning Times" would look like? Cucumber sandwiches and a discussion group? The fact is that a lot of the "let it burn" talk is just that, talk, and flip talk at that.

Good luck stepping in to save a society that's determined to blow itself up.

Want to set up a suicide bomber hotline?

"Sir, if you would just - "
"ALLAH ACKBAR - *dialtone*"

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (0NdlF)

391 The thing is, the Left goes way beyond GoFundMe and uses all sorts of other funding sources, such as government grants, 501C non-profits, etc. They can swoop in and assist as needed.
Posted by: Lizzy
------------------

Most of the 'Foundations'.., founded by capitalists.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (QyBQv)

392 The lesbos are seeking revenge because they are fat, butt-ugly misfits who secretly wish they were normal, and even when they profess to be proud of their lesbianism, they deep down loath themselves and wish they had been born something other than a sexually frustrated taco muncher.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 27, 2015 04:30 PM (P330y)

I continue to wonder why they can't round up some attractive people every time I see a group of "A2Z " protestors, my new acronym for LGBTQ etc, because I can't keep up with how many letters it is at this very minute. Invariably, they are old, gray, extremely heavy and/or hairy--is that on purpose to make them seem non threatening or what?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (kXoT0)

393 387 376-I always wondered why the looters immediately went for the large electronics. If I were ever to loot, I would so be at the local Barnes and Noble, or nearest bookstore. But then, i would get distracted looking at the books, and forget to loot. So I guess it's a moot point.
Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (x303I)

I doubt there are many erudite looters in this bunch.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (mx5oN)

394 There is NO excuse for rioting you dumb fuck shep
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:07 PM (rDqRv)


----------------------------------------


You've actually got the volume high enough to listen to him?

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (/HX7u)

395 <<Let it fucking burn.>>

Not good enough...

...it's time to light the torches.

I'm past my tolerance level for fascism.

Posted by: SGTYork at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (/yNLK)

396 Liberal pro tip: When you see a conservative being stoned to death, join in quick before we accuse you too!

Posted by: Glen at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (1x4u/)

397 Cloud of white smoke all around individual. Individual not getting up.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:00 PM (xQX/f)


Racist.

Posted by: Indecisive Conclave looking for victimhood status at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (vgIRn)

398 For all CCW / CHL holders, if you don't already carry an extra loaded magazine with you, this is a good time to make that a habit.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (dBm7S)

399 I feel a new sense of urgency.


Posted by: pep


Get one. If you're considering a rifle, I'd highly recommend attending an Appleseed shoot. Very instructive.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (/Ho8c)

400 You've actually got the volume high enough to listen to him?
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (/HX7u)


It's either listen to that or the whine of the dental drill

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (rDqRv)

401 What exactly do you think the "Burn" will look like if not Baltimore,
Ferguson, etc. Tell me.


No, it will look like Sarajevo.

And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it
to happen.


None of us want it to happen. It is inevitable because people like you wouldn't do what was necessary to mitigate it because children like you would rather vote for the moderates who lie to you that all our problems are 20 or 50 years away. Because it is inevitable we just want to get it over with and move on.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (ZbV+0)

402 "Loved city living back in the day but liberals are destroying city life in the name of fairness and progress and other bullshit."


Spent the afternoon on Saturday at Eastern Market in downtown Detroit. It was actually really nice.

Drove around the Cass Corridor and New Center, which had dozens of buildings under construction.

Gentrification.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (9ZZd+)

403 Sean, your alternative fighting position can be on my street.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (ztOda)

404 Should I start preemptively looting the artisanal razor blade shoppe, dog bakery, and microbreweries in my twee historic town?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:06 PM (KH1sk)


What's my cut?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (V+kmg)

405 389 Anyone who still thinks that gay marriage is just about two people who love each other and want to share their lives together is a fool.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (MYCIw)

Yup. Something I've said over the years about the progressive SJW types is that the issue is never the issue with these people. They're working their endgame.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (mx5oN)

406 Hey, Alexandria, VA here.



Dem majority for decades.



Riots coming soon to a street corner near me.



*checks gun safe*



Yup, I'm good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:04 PM (V+kmg)


I'm down I95 in Richmond

Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (OrI3J)

407 Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:08 PM (x303I)
---
Me too! First: Loot the boozetique (note to self: bring growlers, fill, empty, then throw through window of microbrewery next door). Second: Liberate the used book store nearby.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (KH1sk)

408 Looks like they are looting the garbage in this pic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (rDqRv)

409 Baltimore needs to set up a GoFundMe account.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (W5DcG)

410 Sean, your alternative fighting position can be on my street.
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (ztOda)


Ok, but RIGHT after I displace, I want a Battery 6 of DPICM on this position.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (V+kmg)

411 CVS being looted. Every looter wearing a hoodie. I'm sure that's a meaningless detail.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (xQX/f)

412 This post is worthless without Cake Girl.

Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (WzbCv)

413 Unfortunately, Pep. You can't carry one on where you need it most.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (ztOda)

414 Not that it will help because the right can't organize a bake sale, let alone a full steam new media shaming frenzy but the dykes names are Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer. Their pictures should be all over drudge, hotair, twitchy etc. and labeled as the women who would destroy the lives of a good family with FIVE KIDS because they were butt-hurt over a cake. It would be nice if they were made famous for their fascist little pity party.

Posted by: Rich at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (J2AJ8)

415 What's my cut?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (V+kmg)
---
An etched blade made from locally sourced barrel staves, and a growler of Green Flash Imperial Ale.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (KH1sk)

416 Yup. Something I've said over the years about the progressive SJW types is that the issue is never the issue with these people. They're working their endgame.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (mx5oN)

Their endgame includes no churches except Unitarian Love Centers. But, they are cowardly little fascists, they leave the mosques strictly alone.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (kXoT0)

417 For all CCW / CHL holders, if you don't already
carry an extra loaded magazine with you, this is a good time to make
that a habit.

Posted by: Cruzinator


This is good advice, even for times not like these. Many malfunctions are mag-related and some can be remedied just by insert-tap-rack.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (/Ho8c)

418 Shemp really is an idiot. He's back to blaming Bush for Katrina.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:14 PM (g1DWB)

419
I'd like one Baltimore Riot Cake, please.


Well, yes...it mostly for a same race riot.


Flavor?

Oh, chocolate I would think...But throw a few marshmallows in there as well.


For decoration?

Something simple... some broken glass, some broken cop figurines, a burning car or two.


When?

Today, muthafukkahs!!!!!!


*throws molotov cocktail at display case full of cupcakes*

Posted by: naturalfake at a Baltimore Cake Store at April 27, 2015 05:14 PM (0cMkb)

420 I especially like that the women involved in this said that denying them the cake was rape.

Really.

I mean. I give up.

Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:14 PM (MYCIw)

421 Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (9ZZd+)

It's an enclosed fortress during the day brought to you by Quickens Loans.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:14 PM (dBm7S)

422 412 This post is worthless without Cake Girl.

Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (WzbCv)



She's get sued for not baking lesbians a cake.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:14 PM (0NdlF)

423 407-the liquor stores here are State-run, so I would avoid them. But I might hit the local Wegmans for some nice halibut and tenderloin. And then to the bookstore.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (x303I)

424 I doubt there are many erudite looters in this bunch.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:10 PM (mx5oN)


Obligatory

http://tinyurl.com/l863pql

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (V+kmg)

425 It's "Javert".

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (XUKZU)

426 CVS being looted. Every looter wearing a hoodie. I'm sure that's a meaningless detail.
Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:12 PM (xQX/f)

Now now, they are obtaining memorial Purple Drank and Skittles wearing their TrayvonHoodies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (kXoT0)

427 Because it is inevitable we just want to get it over with and move on.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:11 PM (ZbV+0)


BING BING BING We have a winner!

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (JOG+K)

428 Methos, you're an idiot. You have no idea who I've voted for, no idea about anything about my life, civilian or military, but you're so dead set on making your idiotic position seem like a decent or moral position that you're sputtering like an otter with a golf ball in his throat. (I just made that one up, not quite ready for prime time?).

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (2cS/G)

429 An etched blade made from locally sourced barrel staves, and a growler of Green Flash Imperial Ale.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:13 PM (KH1sk)


Make it so, Number One

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (V+kmg)

430 Sean, the closest fire support in the metalstorm factory at Dulles

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (ztOda)

431 Get one. If you're considering a rifle, I'd highly recommend attending an Appleseed shoot. Very instructive.


Posted by: Moderate Salami


I've had many different opinions as to what to get.

Pistol: easy to use, and the wife can operate it, provided you buy the right kind. Bullets won't penetrate too many walls.

Rifle: firepower and accuracy

Shotgun: Won't penetrate walls, kills what you're aiming at. Very intimidating racking sound.


At this point, shotgun has the best of the argument, but I'm considering all of the above.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)

432 "They're working their endgame."

ISWYDT

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (QRz0C)

433 You know who does have a woody over the rioting right now?

Shep, that's who. He just did a teaser for the night coverage of the riots.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (ZbV+0)

434 lincolntf, bite me.

Seriously.

Just because some of us don't feel like wasting our energy fighting the inevitable, but instead think positioning ourselves for what comes next is a smarter use of whatever resources we have next, you're all with the mocking?

Just. Bite me.

Feh. I have better things to worry about.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (DT3rQ)

435 They mostly come at night, mostly.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (evdj2)

436 Just bake the damn cake after sweetly inquiring if the happy couple wants the deluxe version with 2 cups of mouse turds instead of one.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (kXoT0)

437 No wedding cake for their gay wedding? Man, that's cold. These people have all my available sympathies.

Be back later, becoming unconscious now....

Posted by: Bleeding Baltimore Policeman at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (DLu2s)

438 Feral Yoots slowly working towards Camden Yards.
MLB monitoring to see if safe to have game.

Posted by: VIA, Live from Baltimore at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (VPLuQ)

439 Pep..... get one of each ..... and lots of rounds..... for the end times..

Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (84SRe)

440 Then there's the sad gay guys who hosted Ted Cruz who are now on their knees begging to not be shunned. "Of course we reject him! Please! Please don't destroy us!"

Jesus Christ, boys. Grow a pair.

Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (MYCIw)

441 Oh bullshit shep this is ALL about black and white

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (rDqRv)

442 Sean, you don't really expect that any lessons from any period of Dem/lib misrule will actually be learned, as in actually leading to any real changes, do you?

That's among the most important broken linkages. No consequences to misrule. Because Dem/lib/coastal/urban/NPR voters, for the most part, are substance-free in their voting. It's all a bunch of stupid sports-team loyalty and emotion and mythology and b.s. absorbed from the media/pop culture marinade they soak in 24/7.

This ridiculous, disastrous president easily re-elected. Districts in CA with 30%+ unemployment returning all their incumbents to office (multiple times) - and the examples go on. There's no rational connection between reality and Dem/lib voting.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (afQnV)

443 The wife and I have talked about getting a gun for awhile, and even took the NRA course, but haven't acted on it yet.
I feel a new sense of urgency.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)


I think the thing you'll remember most about the Obama era is that new sense of urgency.

That and all the racial healing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (V+kmg)

444 For all CCW / CHL holders, if you don't
already carry an extra loaded magazine with
you, this is a good time to make that a habit.



Does 3+1 count?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (gMa4k)

445 >>I've had many different opinions as to what to get.

Noisy cricket. Thing packs a wallop.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (g1DWB)

446 Reporter: Protesters felt 'inspired' to do this.

I have a dream. Which includes the pharmaceutical section of CVS, specifically the Oxy section.

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (xQX/f)

447 Having a full gun safe is one thing. Its the lack of immediately available loaded mags that most people fail at.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (O9qtX)

448 Shut the fuck up Shep you asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (rDqRv)

449 If I ever bite you, Cavil, seriously, it will definitely be serious. Because biting people is not normal.Requires a serious situation. To bite you.

Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (2cS/G)

450

There's a BIG difference between Let It Burn and Gimme A Match.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (ynQIy)

451 Sean, you don't really expect that any lessons from any period of Dem/lib misrule will actually be learned, as in actually leading to any real changes, do you?
Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (afQnV)


Sure I do.

But only if it's a Watts 1968 style purging.

I'm an optimist.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (V+kmg)

452 (note to self: bring growlers, fill, empty, then throw through window of microbrewery next door)

Destroying small businesses because we don't like their mindthoughts is cool when we do it?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (/kI1Q)

453 Shotgun: Won't penetrate walls, kills what you're aiming at. Very intimidating racking sound.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)

Yup, when my husband would travel he would leave me a loaded shotgun and admonish me, "If they can hear you rack that thing and they still keep coming, for God's sake, shoot them, because they are some kinda crazy."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (kXoT0)

454 Gutfeld and Shep are having a nasty slap fight on FOX.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (g1DWB)

455
Richard Daley Sr, Mayor of Chicago was a machine democrat, but at least he knew how to disperse a riot

- shoot to kill orders.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (c0co6)

456 Shotgun: Won't penetrate walls, kills what you're aiming at. Very intimidating racking sound.


At this point, shotgun has the best of the argument, but I'm considering all of the above.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:16 PM (LAe3v)

I don't know if it helps, but when we lived in the Middle East, overseas security said the sound of a shotgun cocking was the one sound that would cause a perp to stop whatever he was doing and leave. Next, the sound of big dogs barking. Not little yappy things, big dogs. We have three of the latter, but need some of the former, I think.

Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (x303I)

457 Having a full gun safe is one thing. Its the lack of immediately available loaded mags that most people fail at.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (O9qtX)


This is why the carry holster has 2 mag pouches.

...and why its a shoulder holster.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (V+kmg)

458 Noisy cricket. Thing packs a wallop.

Posted by: JackStraw


Heh.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (LAe3v)

459 Maybe the rioters just really, really needed a Ped Egg.

Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (MYCIw)

460 436 Just bake the damn cake after sweetly inquiring if the happy couple wants the deluxe version with 2 cups of mouse turds instead of one.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (kXoT0)

Capsaicin.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (mx5oN)

461 Secession nood.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (0NdlF)

462 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:15 PM (kXoT0)

That and hoodies are great for blocking security cameras.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (GDulk)

463 we should have a class action suit against the media.
how many names have we been called?
how many lies?


why can they sue for having hurt feelings ?

why aren't religious sueing everyone for the defamation and loss of income and livlihood from all of this?
why not sue facebook, gofundme-twitter for being the facillitator of the harm being caused?

yeah i know , being insulted and hurt/destroyed is only protected if you are considered special.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (nqBYe)

464 The low-life scum-sucking bastards at GoFundMe also pulled the page for Arlene's Flowers - same issue:

"Thank you for writing to us about this campaign.

After careful review by our team, we have found the "Help Barronelle! (Arlene's Flowers)" campaign to be in violation of our Terms and Conditions and have removed this campaign. The money raised thus far will still be made available for withdrawal.

You may review copy of our Terms and Conditions here: http://www.gofundme.com/terms

Regards,

The GoFundMe Team"

Quite a coincindence, eh?

Posted by: Persnickety at April 27, 2015 05:21 PM (SZa8B)

465
>>SCREW UP THE ORDER.
Put Jalapenos in the cake.

Ok, that actually sounds potentially tasty. Wonder if I can find a recipe...

Posted by: Lea at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (lIU4e)

466 So first Ferguson.
Now Baltimore.
The closer it gets to DC the better.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (8i7dG)

467 At this point, shotgun has the best of the argument, but I'm considering all of the above.


All 3. They are tools. Not magic wands. Each has a specific use.
As you would not try and build a house with just a hammer, don't leave your life up to one gun.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (gMa4k)

468 (note to self: bring growlers, fill, empty, then throw through window of microbrewery next door)

Destroying small businesses because we don't like their mindthoughts is cool when we do it?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 27, 2015 05:19 PM (/kI1Q)
---
Oh, I'd pay for my beer! I just want to participate in the spirited hijinks of a village sacking. Viking Days at E.C.!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (KH1sk)

469 She's get sued for not baking lesbians a cake.
[br
But mostly for not being a lesbian. She's hot and straight. She made that cake for her boyfriend.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (u4Y3i)

470 440 Then there's the sad gay guys who hosted Ted Cruz who are now on their knees begging to not be shunned. "Of course we reject him! Please! Please don't destroy us!"

Jesus Christ, boys. Grow a pair.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 05:17 PM (MYCIw)

Before the cock crows, thou shalt deny me three times.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (mx5oN)

471 pep, start with a shotgun (as your primary motivator here is home security).

Basic Mossberg pump with two barrels (longer one to enjoy trap shooting, which is quite fun and easy) is usually out there for around $300. Order yourself a few cases of low-recoil trap/practice rounds, and a few boxes of low-recoil law enforcement buckshot rounds. Go practice and have fun getting good with the thing (both of ya's) at a range. Keep the gun fitted with the 18.5" barrel at home with the self-defense rounds handy.

There's really quite a dramatic difference in skills required, confidence level, etc. between a shotgun (esp. for home defense use) and either handguns or rifles. Shotgun's much easier.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (afQnV)

472 anyway, what's left to protect if even those with money to fight ,
don't?


looking at gofundme, large corporations, mozzila.

.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 05:22 PM (nqBYe)

473 Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 05:18 PM (gMa4k)

If you are going to defend the Alamo again.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (dBm7S)

474 Yup, when my husband would travel he would leave me a loaded shotgun and
admonish me, "If they can hear you rack that thing and they still keep
coming, for God's sake, shoot them, because they are some kinda crazy."


Shotguns: the Inigo Montoya of weapons.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (LAe3v)

475 Most of the riotin' and lootin' occurring on Pennsylvania Avenue. Portent?

Posted by: Emotional Protestor at April 27, 2015 05:23 PM (xQX/f)

476 Looks like I won't be using GoFundMe anymore. I'll be writing them a letter explaining this right now.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (Orv1g)

477 anyway, what's left to protect if even those with money to fight ,

The people. People > money and corporations.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (0NdlF)

478 why aren't religious suing everyone for the defamation and loss of income and livelihood from all of this?


***********

The good Lord will take care of his own.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 27, 2015 05:24 PM (vgIRn)

479 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2015 05:20 PM (V+kmg)


Two reloads minimum when I carry local. It goes to 4 when I have to go into the city.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (O9qtX)

480 As for the Let It Burn comments. Look, I don't want The Burning Times to happen. They are happening regardless. Hang in there Baltimore morons. It will get worse before it gets really bad.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at April 27, 2015 05:25 PM (u4Y3i)

481 My, My My how GoFundMe suddenly tries to grow a conscience.

Excerpts from their policies:
Campaigns in defense of formal charges of heinous crimes, including violent, hateful, or sexual actsContent associated with hate groups or terrorist organizationsCampaigns including inflammatory or accusatory statementsUnderage consumption or abuse of alcohol, tobacco, or narcoticsDrug abuse, products or paraphernaliaThe illegal purchase or use of marijuana


So, go to GoFundMe and search for the word "Bail".
First contestant: http://goo.gl/NMxjHR
Medical cannabis caregivers who were raided. Needs $14k for bail money. Hmmm, drug abuse, anyone?

Second contestant: http://goo.gl/xxwBrN
Needs bail and lawyer money for FELONY level possession of marijuana.

And my favorite: http://goo.gl/g7Rfo8
How can we forget the fine outstanding youts Univ. California students protested the rise in tuition. So this fine specimen of human debris gets charged with felony vandalism and inciting a riot.
So these pages get to stay up? WTF?!?!?!?!

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (DlmoZ)

482 Sean, I salute your optimism (even as I struggle to comprehend that strange, alien, concept).

But recall Watts led to not a bit of improvement - instead, decades of decline, in all respects.

If there is a feedback loop (punishing failure, rewarding success) in our political system (at least at federal level), it has escaped my scrutiny. At least since about 1988.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:26 PM (afQnV)

483 This is why your divorce idea won't work, ace. The
other side cannot bear that that any opposition exists. They don't want
us out of sight out of mind. They want us annihilated.



Oh and, by the by, I hate with the passion of 10,000 burning suns
that everyone on both sides is demanding this of me, but fine. Fuck it.
OF COURSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS! Of course not. Not at all. Not in the teeniest tiniest little itty bitiest way.
I hope that clears that up. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JENNER TOO OMG. I keeeeed. No one here should feel pressured to post on something just because they can check off the ticky box of being connected to that something, whether it be ethnicity/gender/sex/whatever. There are plenty of opinions to go around as is! We just love you and want your opinions on all the things Alex, but never feel obligated.
*passes gift basket of hate shakes and fries and lemonade to AtC*

Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 05:27 PM (yRwC8)

484 #465 ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.food.com/recipe/spicy-chocolate-jalapeno-cake-138928

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (kXoT0)

485 pep, lost of poor advice there.

1. Shotgun and Pistols have penetration issues. In many cases a fast, fragmenting rifle round will penetrate less than a pistol round. The specifics are complicated - just assume EVERY bullet will penetrate EVERY wall.

2. Pistols are not easier to use. I could point you towards dozens of rifles and shotties that are far easier to operate then most pistols.

3. The lethality of shotguns is somewhat overstated.

4. Racking a shotgun just gives your position away, and can be a failure point under duress.

I would recommend a tactical semi-auto shotgun or an AR (M4 style). And, lots of practice.

Handguns I would wait on until you established a practice/maintenance routine, get a carry permit, and figure out what you're going to do with it. And, a lot more practice.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 05:28 PM (ztOda)

486

pep:

A shotgun is an excellent choice, BUT ...

... the rounds will go through a (sheetrock) wall. Maybe not 2, if you're using birdshot, but plan on at least 1.

Plan on backup material: several cans of pepper spray, maybe a can or 4 of bear spray (fogger), a couple of stun guns, a tire-iron or two ... and many big zip-ties, for subduing anyone still remaining. I post this recommendation a lot.

There will likely be times when your shotgun is not the easiest thing to grab, or someone is in the way, or someone is behind the target, or ...

How much hesitation will you have in shooting someone? Probably very much less if you have to pepper-spray them ... and the legal ramifications are considerably less.

Bear-spraying a group of 10 or 15 youts might be a one-time deal ... they won't be back ... or they will, but you and your friends and neighbors will be ready, and reality will be clear.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 27, 2015 05:34 PM (FlRtG)

487 The "burn" is not a CVS in B'more (or Ferguson). Recall from your yute the far, far, far larger conflagrations of the late 60s.

The "burn" is going on, in a thousand different places and different ways. It's the degradation of that ridiculous spectacle of the hotelier grovelling before the gaystapo for his Cruz event. It's the utter, arbitrary lawlessness from the Oval Office - and equally so the passive or collusive reaction from the "opposition". It's the transformation of the judiciary into an unaccountable, irresponsible, tyrannical unelected super-legislature for dummies. It's the mau-mauing of local parents in school districts swamped with illegals. It's the rent-seeking corporatism, starting to resemble Germany about 1936, that has replaced one component of American pluralism (an independent private sector). It's the jaw-dropping, wildly irresponsible joy-riding occurring in fiscal and monetary affairs, with central banks scrambling to keep plates spinning with no idea of the effect on longer term prosperity and integrity of markets or currencies.

There's your "burn".

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:35 PM (afQnV)

488 I think it's about time for Shep to be the man on the street and do some up close and personal interviews with the shitheads he's sticking up for.

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (ahBY0)

489 At this point, shotgun has the best of the argument, but I'm considering all of the above.


Posted by: pep


Opinions on this topic are as varied and vehement as the carpet vs. hardwood one.

I would recommend a 12 gauge pump shotgun for an entry-level home defense/all purpose weapon. Depending upon wife's build, etc, 20 gauge might be a better fit.

Projectile penetration issues in houses is a problem, and some folks recommend M4/AR type weapons as a solution to this problem. There is a valid argument here, but for a novice, I'd still recommend something simple. Pump shotgun is very simple. Plus, Uncle Joe thinks they're all anyone ever needs.

Practice with anything is extremely important.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:36 PM (/Ho8c)

490 +1 to rhomboid's advice.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 05:38 PM (/Ho8c)

491 Jean, agreed except for a few points. Shotgun lethality is just fine - but that all depends on what we're talking about. Yes, racking a pump as part of a planned "strategy" is a commonly discussed but unsound concept.

My advice, as stated, was simply that shotguns are easier to learn how to use for the application in question (close quarters indoors defense) than the other two platforms.

I'll stick with my pump action preference. Just one less potential complication (and yes, one can/should work out any ammo compatibility issues with a semi-auto well in advance).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:41 PM (afQnV)

492 Just In : Ghey marriage planners discriminate against Muslim bakers.

Okay..., it's just a guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM (QyBQv)

493
I understand only 50% of the country was involved in the Revolutionary War.
25% for staying a colony and 25% who didn't want to. It seems times do not change.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 05:44 PM (m3iiU)

494 Moderate, thumbs up back at ya for your advice, esp. looking into a 20 gauge for the wife, depending on size/etc.

Haven't been able to find any, but reduced recoil law enforcement #1 buck (vs. 00) has been shown to actually deliver reduced wall-penetration, I believe. In any case, pep, if you do get a shotgun, try out the various reduced recoil defense rounds available. I've got Hornady TAP rounds and they are very easy to keep on target (also have a tight pattern). 18.5" pump shotgun and good defense rounds can make almost anyone basically capable of home defense in short order.

Practice - why I suggested getting a case (250 or 500) of light recoil trap ammo and shootin' the bejeesus out of a new shotgun until operation is second nature. Then doing monthly practice sessions - or better, screwing around with trap shooting or local tactical fun shoots.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:47 PM (afQnV)

495 activeGiving dot com may be another option.

Posted by: OCBill at April 27, 2015 05:49 PM (cPg42)

496 Mike H., didn't some web guy actually go out and do the gay wedding cake thing with some Muslim businesses a few weeks ago? ace called him his hero or something? I think the businesses declined, naturally.
Anyway, it really might be useful to at least set up one of those situations in select states then absolutely besiege the state AG and press with demands that social justice be done, to see if they can be shamed into persecuting anything other than a Christian outfit.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 05:50 PM (afQnV)

497 the judge was threatening to raise the fine



What they need is a better lawyer.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2015 04:23 PM (659DL)

OR, an offer to the judge he couldn't refuse.

Posted by: thatcrrazyjerseyguy at April 27, 2015 05:52 PM (TPimP)

498 Pep and all -
Great 12 gauge ammo: Federal tactical LEO flitecontrol wad.
http://goo.gl/lhjUKR

Take a look at the Remington 870 pump action. This model has a short (18.5") barrel, 7 rounds and a ghost ring site.
http://goo.gl/Z86P9e

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at April 27, 2015 06:00 PM (DlmoZ)

499 I hope I live long enough to witness the backlash that obliterates these vermin. It's bound to come, either through the adulteration of our culture by less tolerant strains that will eventually take charge and start arranging things their own way, or through native revulsion. The decades-long frolic of perversion and "pushing the boundaries" that was the Weimar Republic brought one hell of a backlash, supported by people who were tired of having their culture polluted. We're much further along that Germany in the 20s was. I might even get cable again, to watch this filth being herded into stadiums and flogged, crucified, beheaded and burned to death.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 27, 2015 06:09 PM (VBbCO)

500 Tell me. And then lie to me and tell me you don't want it to happen.

I'm not a "let it burn" type and I'm not o.k. with any city burning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2015 06:18 PM (DXzRD)

501 If a private bakery can be sued for discriminating against homosexuals, why can't GoFundMe be sued for religious discrimination against Christians?

Posted by: david at April 27, 2015 07:05 PM (peWC2)

502 Although lesbians make up only 10 percent of homosexuals, it seems that they're the most bitter, the most unable to go on with their lives without destroying the lives of others. I call jealousy.

I've read that the two winners who instigated the bakery hatred felt as though they'd been "raped in their minds."

Figures. That's because of the truck wide holes in the heads.

Posted by: Supreme Being at April 27, 2015 08:20 PM (SJ184)

503 Who needs Go Fund Me?
Take a Twenty Dollar Bill,
Drop it in the mail.

Posted by: Haiku Guy at April 27, 2015 08:52 PM (yTZor)

504 You know the Social Justice Wankers complained to go fund me. Have you complained about the new policy?

Go to
http://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=contact/form&pid=199_Other

And ask them why they now discrimante against Christians, and why they now support fascist suppression of unpopular beliefs.

Go on. Or quite your beefing.

Posted by: Old Toby at April 27, 2015 10:23 PM (yp7dB)

505 "Take a page from #GamerGate. #GG destroyed Gawker through an email campaign targeting its advertisers. Copy what works."

Did they? I think gawker is still around. Actually, I checked and there still is a oct 23rd post by Gawker about how awful their advertisers are for pulling out.

Here is a comment ... it's under 'pending approval' at Gawker.. lol!
"Leftist
aholes like Gawker richly deserve payback and being financially ruined.
Intolerant leftist morons boycotted Chick-Fil-A. Leftist moron
politicians in LA boycotted Arizona over their illegal immigration
policies. Leftist morons hounded Brendan Eich out of his job at Mozilla
over his political contribution to Proposition 8. If the left is
playing hardball and ruining reputations and businesses then don't be
surprised when those tactics bite you in the ass and people retaliate.
If you think you're better than Gamergate, you're sadly mistaken. You're
much worse. Gamergate deserves accolades and support in bringing you
aholes down."
On this whole secession thing. Yeah, these events all have something of an 1850s air to them. People living under the same flag but starting to hate each other's guts for being so damned *unreasonable*.

Who's for a raid on Harper's Ferry? Anyone? Beuller?
Not sure what the equivalent of moral Harper's Ferry is.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 28, 2015 12:32 PM (FLBHk)

506 IF WE ELECT TED CRUZ PRESIDENT ITS LIKE
ELECTING ABE LINCOLN. It would force the issue. the SJWs want anyone who has a different opinion on the matter to be ostracized. Anyone supporting him too.

Definitely a 'southern slave owners react to Lincoln election' fell ot it. Elect the Canadian and send the SJW elites to
Canada. Or to riots. Or both. It works.

I think the whole "It's unimaginable to have
Ted Cruz elected" thing is really about this: WE CANNOT IMAGINE THE
CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY WINNING THE CULTURE OR POLITICAL WAR. Imagine the Supreme Court actually *not* making gay marriage the
law of the land. Hard to imagine it not happening. It's as if that is a done deal.

There is no space for
dissent. Hard to imagine anti-gay-marriage sentiment gettign stronger and American deciding "You know, all this gay marriage, pot smoking, cr*p ... let's cut it out and go back to being like our parents and grandparents on these issues."

At this point, you have SJWs inciting discrimination
campaigns against people on the basis of the evil that is ... er,
discrimination. The moral basis of freedom is lost. Tolerance of other views is kaput.

It's like
the rot has gotten too far, too many people are too far gone to the
other side, there is no 'center' of people who actually are thinking
sensibly, and even if they did, the power constructs forbid holding reasonable views.

It's time to go Marxist and force the contradictions in the system. Ergo, Cruz for President. If it happens - Upper East Side riots will break out.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 28, 2015 12:40 PM (FLBHk)

507 Use bitcoin to fund her. There's no central point of control to attack. The left will go f'ing nuts.

Posted by: Satoshi at April 28, 2015 01:59 PM (jc2LV)

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Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat