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Rogue Prosecutor John Chisholm, Union-Connected Partisan Behind Wisconsin's Evil "John Doe" Intimidations, Now Suggests That Walker Should Be Prosecutable as a Criminal For Criticizing The John Doe Investigations
If Scott Walker is any kind of a man and a real contender, he will move heaven and earth to cast this vicious partisan out of office.
This is what Walker said, correctly:“They were looking for just about anything. As I pointed out at the time, it was largely a political witch hunt.”John Chisholm was informed of the remark, and now threatens to prosecute the Governor for criticizing him:
"As to defamatory remarks, I strongly suspect the Iowa criminal code, like Wisconsin’s, has provisions for intentionally making false statements intended to harm the reputation of others,” Chisholm said in a statement Saturday responding to Walker's comments.Note Chisholm states -- not by accident -- that Wisconsin has such a provision. He is therefore threatening to a new prosecution of the governor for criticizing his lawless witch-hunts. This is an outrage. Enough. Step One: Pass a law permitting a jury to strip a prosecutor of civil immunity if he is found to have acted with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime. Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime. We'll fix your wagons, buddy.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: physics geek at April 27, 2015 11:57 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: physics geek at April 27, 2015 11:58 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 11:58 AM (0eidE)
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2015 12:00 PM (FCsIb)
Right?
Right?
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at April 27, 2015 12:00 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2015 12:00 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: huerfano at April 27, 2015 12:00 PM (bynk/)
Posted by: Armando at April 27, 2015 12:00 PM (yxM0T)
Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at April 27, 2015 12:01 PM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Penfold at April 27, 2015 12:01 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:01 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2015 12:01 PM (Hlnr9)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (kz2eW)
Posted by: Chisholm John Chisholm at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (qQcQl)
http://www.walker.wi.gov/contact-us
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (DXzRD)
Chisholm rhymes with jism.....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Peter North at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (vgIRn)
I'm told that a current political figure once said "punch back twice as hard"
Hmm.
Posted by: anon a mouse at April 27, 2015 12:03 PM (KnbYp)
Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 12:03 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: huerfano at April 27, 2015 12:04 PM (bynk/)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2015 12:04 PM (kz2eW)
And people wanted to keep that shithole of a state if we divorce.
Screw that. That's yankeeland mentality.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:04 PM (qQcQl)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:04 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (h4vJk)
or else there is no liberty, the experiment is over and were are really just fascists
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Draki
How many does it take?
Posted by: huerfano
Three lefts.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (qQcQl)
Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (xWW96)
They are basically unsupervised. They can bring the power of the state against anyone they choose and they have the entire police forces of the state and all it's departments at their beck and call.
They're only supervision is thru the rulings of judges and remotely possible impeachment.
The judges are part of the problem. A inimical prosecutor can make a judges life as much a hell as a judge can make a defense attorney's or defendants life hell.
Prosecutors are in the aggregate responsible for the over charging of defendants thus making it more likely that an innocent person (of the base charge) will take a plea due to jury's being so easily swayed and the prosecutors being in position to manipulate or out right falsify the evidence.
They are effectively immune to prosecution for any misdeeds and they will protect the police who will in turn protect them.
They have turned our justice system into a Criminal Enterprise with them at the top.
(not all of course but the degree gets worse every year.)
Part of the problem is that too many are elected and the other problem is that too many are political or have political aspirations. This makes them dangerous and attracts the unsavory to do their bidding.
Time for Prosecutorial Oversight along with Tort Reform to regain a justice system which people can respect.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (FCsIb)
There are people who believe this sort of thing is not acceptable. Not enough of them are elected officials, but I believe a majority of the general public are.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (nSOh+)
Posted by: Walker's throne of skulls, looking for new skulls to add at April 27, 2015 12:06 PM (yRwC8)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime.
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Ace!! My man!!
.... err.... ummmmmm.... nevermind
Posted by: Mike Nifong at April 27, 2015 12:06 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 27, 2015 12:06 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2015 12:06 PM (so+oy)
Agreed. It's shit or get off the pot time for Walker.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 27, 2015 12:07 PM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:07 PM (0eidE)
change this unconstitutional law Wisconsin!! get your shit together. what were you thinking?
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2015 12:07 PM (YNPwP)
Posted by: Thursby at April 27, 2015 12:07 PM (1wofY)
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Overall excellent points. But the legislature deserves much of the blame here. We have too many codified decrees. The prosecutors are just making use of the tools they have been given.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:08 PM (gmeXX)
Proverbs are helpful for getting into heaven. Not so much for political office.
Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2015 12:08 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 12:08 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: Adriane the Critic
...........
Eddie Gein has a nice little farm up La Crosse way, ya hey dare..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (so+oy)
live by the lawfare
die by the lawyer
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (zOTsN)
live by the lawfare
die by the lawyer
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (zOTsN)
Fascists. Every fucking one of them.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (eBNjM)
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (zt+N6)
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Posted by: Scott "Khorne" Walker at April 27, 2015 12:10 PM (3sOO0)
Posted by: meh at April 27, 2015 12:10 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2015 12:10 PM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 12:10 PM (WzbCv)
they must throw him out of office
they must charge him with abuse of prosecutorial discretion
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (zOTsN)
Screw passing a law, Walker should just start a John Doe investigation WITH RAIDS against this dude, making sure he can not talk about it.
Not really tongue in cheek, there is plenty of evidence that this govt official is breaking laws using his office for personal political persecutions, not to mention misuse of govt funds.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Infidel at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (qu2uc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (DXzRD)
That's because the only crime that liberals acknowledge is failure to sufficiently grow The State.
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:11 PM (0eidE)
Forget persecutions, how does this turd still have a job?
I have to say that I think any bureaucrat that uses his position to behave in an overtly political way should lose his job. Especially any prosecutor. This is a politically "neutral" position on my part.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at April 27, 2015 12:12 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2015 12:12 PM (FRkJH)
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (zt+N6)
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We executed the Rosenbergs for passing nuclear secrets to the Russians.
What should happen to Hillary for taking bribes so the Russians could buy Uranium??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:12 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2015 12:12 PM (DXzRD)
The failure to do exactly this - for those who actually have a clue and a spine and believe in logic, ruleof law, and decency - is a key thing preventing the country from further degradation.
Lots of electronic ink is wasted here and elsewhere spitballing how to destroy/etc. the press. Mostly a waste of time.
Use the f**king bully pulpits you already have, challenge and destroy every false premise, ridicule personally when justified, quadruple down on every true statement and torture the "journalists" with facts, MAKE THE NEWS. They cannot ignore or hide a senior public figure aggressively and relentlessly making important points. There is still a significant portion of the electorate that is passively ignorant and living in an NPR bubble, many of them "reachable".
Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 12:12 PM (afQnV)
What will really blow this out of the water is when the prosecutor sends his goon squad of "cops" to raid a home in the middle of the night.....and the homeowner thinks its a home invasion (because why else would armed men be trying to break in, they didn't do anything wrong) and fires off his shotgun, then the cops will return fire and you will have dead cops and dead citizens and if children are in the house dead kids too.
All because of this left wing prosecutor. Think it can't happen? You are dead wrong!
Posted by: Dan at April 27, 2015 12:13 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: JB1000 at April 27, 2015 12:13 PM (16OL0)
Not that he's a sympathetic figure around here, but the papers here in NJ keep pounding Chris Christie over that "Bridgegate" non-scandal--even though it was long ago debunked. But not a word about Hillary. Not a peep.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2015 12:14 PM (EhN1w)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:14 PM (zOTsN)
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I disagree. A problem we have is believing that political positions should be neutral. They cannot be. They will not be.
I think we would be better off acknowledging this rather than trying to find an ideal that cannot exist.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:14 PM (gmeXX)
Prosecutorial immunity, just like judicial immunity, should be outlawed.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 27, 2015 12:14 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:14 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Rosemary Lehmberg at April 27, 2015 12:15 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:15 PM (0eidE)
You can't run for national office and become known for a some domestic squabble however important the ultimate issue may be.
OTOH, if he could tie it to some national problem, then he could use it as a captured weapon. Judicial, prosecutorial, or regulatory overreach perhaps.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2015 12:15 PM (KhFZp)
Better proceed directly to Step 87.
Engaging in Lawfare with the left is not my idea of a good time.
Posted by: Jaws at April 27, 2015 12:15 PM (WKNX4)
Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 12:15 PM (WzbCv)
immunity if he is found to have acted with malice in pursuing an alleged
political crime.
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted
and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged
political crime.
Even if such laws were passed, they couldn't be made to apply retroactively to the union tool Chisholm, could they?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (N91pB)
jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged
political crime."
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Insufficient. One has to understand that what Chisolm is doing puts a spear thru the heart of representative governance. This should be a life sentence without parole. Oh and said perps should be disbarred on the presences of the facts automatically if the jury deems said perp guilty.
Posted by: JohnMc at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (ZVUS/)
Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (zL/eJ)
Screw that. That's yankeeland mentality.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:04 PM (qQcQl)"
Well, of course we want Wisconsin. When the divorce comes, we want the two coasts split off from each other. It would also be great if we could pick up Alberta and Yukon in order to unite with Alaska and divide the progressives.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (L2xDv)
Now I don't really make most of the federal judicial system seriously, based on the increasingly, sometimes theatrically arbitrary and lawless crap now being spit out (AZ immig. law Catch 22, Prop Eight, O-care obviously).
But howTF can such a statute withstand even initial challenge?
Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (0eidE)
Yes, they should yank this tool's law licence, and that of the rent-a-judge who went along with it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (IcJmI)
1. change the law
2. remove him from office
3. charge him with abuse of prosecutorial discretion
4. disbar him
5. people who were subjected to his witch hunt need to personally sue the ever loving shit out of him. If he is convicted of abuse of prosecutorial discretion, then they will go after him personally and not the state since his actions were beyond the scope of his employment
kill him with lawfare
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
Using the State's monopoly on the use of deadly force in order to further a political or personal agenda should be a high crime punishable by the perpetrator being expeditiously put up against a wall, in public as an example to others.
Posted by: ballistic at April 27, 2015 12:18 PM (iWDim)
So, he took the other tactic. He went on television, called them all a bunch of liars, on the air in front of millions and said "Gentlemen, you know where to find me".
Posted by: Thor's feather duster at April 27, 2015 12:18 PM (JgC5a)
you know if i was a governor who commands the state national gaurd i just might order a couple of regiments totrail their coatsby the prosecuters office just for fun
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (lKyWE)
is that too many are political or have political aspirations.
Is this all just to get his resume at the top of the pile at the Hildabeast desk?
Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (YNPwP)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (N91pB)
Wouldn't be a problem. Obviously this tool won't stop so he'd either get caught doing it again, or he will stop because of the risk.
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM (0eidE)
That dictum works for 6 year olds. It doesn't work in life or death situations. In the case of governmental abuse ONE wrong cannot be tolerated, let alone two.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (O9qtX)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (UlJ3l)
The only problem with passing a law now is that you wouldn't be able to get Chisholm on it if he brought his case before passage of the law. Ex post facto...you cannot make illegal what someone has already done if it was legal at the time they did it. If you pass the law first and then he is such a fool as to keep going, then you have him. And, of course, the main thing would be that it sets precedent to real in unlawful behavior.
The only thing I would say is that relying on a jury in a purple state to remove a blue prosecutor's immunity could at times be like pissing up a rope. Knowing how jury selection works, it could end up being a coin toss. Which is no big deal really.
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (k8xvx)
Not to be a cynic but the Progressive Left thinks that the complete collapse of our representative republic is a cool wave to ride to...somewhere really really progressive.
The Country is toast. A gentle division now will save hundreds of thousands of lives later and will at least allow a hundred million or so to live free for a while longer.
Imagine a constitutionalist like Cruz is elected. How far will he get in the Herculean task of cutting the size and scope of the executive branch? And if he did make any progress how would that reign in the massive corruption in the legislative branch? The indifference of the judicial?
Read the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and see what human nature always brings us.
Maybe we could bring back dueling. Ropes and lampposts.
I dunno.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something feels SMOD is approaching at April 27, 2015 12:19 PM (NHtMs)
but someone has to sue on it to have it thrown out
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:20 PM (zOTsN)
Amen. I would not presume to tell Walker how to do this, but it seems rather simple. Do it, and you will have a nation behind you. Don't do it, and watch as we crumble further.
It is not possible for any of the rest of us to do what Walker (and Perry) can now do. We need a leader.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2015 12:20 PM (TOk1P)
You insult-a us, how dare you!
Posted by: Italian prosecutors, who might be corrupt but even they have limits at April 27, 2015 12:20 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:21 PM (zOTsN)
jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged
political crime.
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Wouldn't it be simpler to pass a law that malicious prosecution for any crime will be punished by the same penalty the crime was for?
Well the persecution in WI is especially bad, there are examples of this all over the country where a prosecutor takes a case for a personal reason having nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of the person being targeted...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2015 12:21 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: RickZ at April 27, 2015 12:22 PM (66HIl)
Posted by: ballistic at April 27, 2015 12:22 PM (iWDim)
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 12:22 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (L2xDv)
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You misspelled "protracted asses"....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:22 PM (NaV4z)
Prosecutor John Chisholm to a safe space ... Somebody in WI has to have
cookies, puppies, and Play-Doh."
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And a noose.
Posted by: JohnMc at April 27, 2015 12:22 PM (ZVUS/)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:23 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 12:23 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2015 12:16 PM (N91pB)"
I guess they could apply if charges have not yet been filed against the people who have been SWATed and ordered to remain silent.
One unanticipated consequence that I could see emerge from such laws might be for defense attorneys in Mafia and drug cases to use these new laws to go after energetic prosecutors. Given the widespread jury nullification in ghetto areas due to racial solidarity, or in a similar example, the racial solidarity that got OJ Simpson off for murdering his wife and some unfortunate bystander, I see that sort of thing as a real possibility.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 12:24 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Obama the Great at April 27, 2015 12:24 PM (0eidE)
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Hmm, cops, conservatives and kids? Wait, do you mean to suggest this isn't a good thing?
Posted by: The Left at April 27, 2015 12:25 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 12:25 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)
I am pretty sure the governor can appoint a special prosecutor to begin the criminal investigation of the judge. I am also pretty sure that if the governor cannot physically remove the judge from office pending the outcome of the investigation, he can at least stop the judge's paycheck.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 12:26 PM (c0co6)
We'll fix your wagons, buddy.
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hmmmm....... a clue...... Aces REAL last name is Cartwright.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:26 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: deepred at April 27, 2015 12:26 PM (xv5cf)
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 12:27 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (L2xDv)
Yep. ADA: "The phrase physical or mental impairment
includes, but is not limited to, such contagious and noncontagious
diseases and conditions as orthopedic, visual, speech, and hearing
impairments, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, muscular dystrophy, multiple
sclerosis, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, mental retardation,
emotional illness, specific learning disabilities, HIV disease (whether
symptomatic or asymptomatic), tuberculosis, drug addiction, and
alcoholism, and being a lawyer;"
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2015 12:27 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: @JohnTant at April 27, 2015 12:27 PM (eytER)
criticism of public officials abusing their offices like Mr. Chisholm
has done.
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I say though, do you really want that sort of country? I mean really?
Posted by: King George III at April 27, 2015 12:27 PM (78TbK)
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At first glance - I'd say no. But thinking about it some more it is similar to that paper that Insty has been posting (though I have not read) on whether ignorance of the law should be a defense when there are so many legal decrees on the books.
For administrative decrees (or any laws or decrees) does due process require a jury nullification instruction?
Interesting question.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:28 PM (gmeXX)
Between Milwaukee County and Madison, the liberal politicians and liberal judges are doing everything in their power to get the Dem's back in power.
One of the purist examples liberal power politics as you will ever see.
Posted by: WisRich at April 27, 2015 12:28 PM (hdpay)
@113
I....don't know if that would be such good idea. There are places where it could work fantastically, but in other place, where people believe the justice system is stacked against them racially or otherwise, it could lead to a lot of genuinely bad guys, who are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt getting off free as a bird. I know we believe it's better for a hundred guilty men to go free than for an innocent to be convicted, but constitutional jury nullification instructions seem to take that a little far.
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at April 27, 2015 12:28 PM (k8xvx)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:28 PM (zOTsN)
You can't run for national office and become known for a some domestic squabble however important the ultimate issue may be.
i guess you're right most americans can't indentify with storm troopers busting down their door in the middle of the night and having their homes ransacked for no rerason and then being told to tell absolutely no one about it under punishment of the law
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:28 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: PBJ5959 at April 27, 2015 12:29 PM (r1du+)
Posted by: UGAdawg at April 27, 2015 12:29 PM (I+4FK)
Can he now, armed with what he might call probably cause, launch a John Doe investigation on Walker and Walker cannot talk about it or call his attorney?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2015 12:29 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:29 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:26 PM (NaV4z)
***************
"Wicket Cartwright?"
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 27, 2015 12:30 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Dan at April 27, 2015 12:30 PM (COpZ4)
i'm favoring walker right now how he handles this will play a large role on how i will view him as acandidate
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:30 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: kj
_________________________
I respectfully beg to differ.
Posted by: Zombie Calvin Coolidge at April 27, 2015 12:30 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: The Left at April 27, 2015 12:30 PM (78TbK)
I....don't know if that would be such good idea. There are places where it could work fantastically, but in other place, where people believe the justice system is stacked against them racially or otherwise, it could lead to a lot of genuinely bad guys, who are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt getting off free as a bird. I know we believe it's better for a hundred guilty men to go free than for an innocent to be convicted, but constitutional jury nullification instructions seem to take that a little far.
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What if a jury nullification charge was required for administrative decrees?
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (gmeXX)
Good new law ideas Ace. Perchance to dream.
Posted by: jondoran@angstyquestions at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (g1MTt)
the law let him do it
1. change the law
2. remove him from office
3. charge him with abuse of prosecutorial discretion
4. disbar him
5. people who were subjected to his witch hunt need to personally
sue the ever loving shit out of him. If he is convicted of abuse of
prosecutorial discretion, then they will go after him personally and not
the state since his actions were beyond the scope of his employment
kill him with lawfare
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:17 PM (zOTsN)"
One minor addition to your list:
If his assets do not cover the penalties assessed against him, auction off his internal organs for transplant to satisfy his financial obligations.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (DT3rQ)
He obviously never asks himself "What would John Wayne do?"
Posted by: teej at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (mJRr3)
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The law is a means, not an end for the Left. Note that is is true of almost everything the left claims it values...except political power.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2015 12:32 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 27, 2015 12:32 PM (qyobn)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 27, 2015 12:32 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 27, 2015 12:33 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Semper Fi at April 27, 2015 12:33 PM (yRAWn)
maybe he can move to oregon and win 115000 for being given a boo boo inthe feels.
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Speaking of which, can a governor give political asylum to an internal dissident like the bakers in question?
Has anything like that come up before?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2015 12:33 PM (78TbK)
This is his state. This totalitarian prosecutor should himself be prosecuted post-haste. No action by Walker on this, forget about him as President.
Posted by: Gen. Martin Dempsey at April 27, 2015 12:33 PM (hKyl0)
http://tinyurl.com/mcgctkv
There. Case settled.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 27, 2015 12:33 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 12:34 PM (UlJ3l)
Maybe it's because I'm not from Wisconsin and/or not fully informed on the issue but it seems to me Walker's somewhat underwhelmingly tepid, "Gee, looks like a witch hunt to me" response doesn't do much for those families whose lives were upended and reputations sullied when the police came storming through their doors.
I would expect Walker to be pissed off. I would expect Walker, as Governor of his state, to use the powers of his office to make life at least a tad bit uncomfortable for a run-amoklowlife terrorizing Walker's own supporters. But I'm not seeing any of that, maybe because Walker doesn't want to appear anything less than cheerful and earnest because, you know, those highly paid media consultants are always emphasizing that 'happy warrior' horseshit.
Governor Walker? Go after that bastard, please. Nail that Chisholm asshole to the wall.
Posted by: troyriser at April 27, 2015 12:34 PM (bFdv5)
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:34 PM (J6suc)
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Dude, I almost lost us the Iraq war single handedly, well, before Obama got elected. Doesn't that count for anything?
Posted by: Joe Wilson IV at April 27, 2015 12:34 PM (78TbK)
I've never agreed with this idea. It's 5, tops.
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 27, 2015 12:34 PM (rwI+c)
Oh yes. Send him on the Oregon Trail...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
﹠&＆&﹠
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 12:35 PM (DT3rQ)
they can sue the state for malicious prosecution and violation of thier constitutional rights
they can try an sue him personally but he will claim he was acting within the scope of his employment. Since the bitch Judge Kluka was in on the deal too other judges will be very reluctant to go after her
they can file complaints with the state bar association against the prosecutor and judge kluka
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:35 PM (zOTsN)
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Oh I agree. I don't think administrative decrees (at least at the federal level) should have any power whatsoever.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:35 PM (gmeXX)
Of course, this would start a great hue and cry on the Left about the "Eeeevil John Doe Law", and after due consideration, Walker could ride in like a white knight with legislative action to repeal the John Doe law. But not before Chisholm is disbarred and/or jailed for malfeasance and whatever.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2015 12:35 PM (N91pB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2015 12:35 PM (659DL)
The man is a liar, cheat, bully and scumbag, so it is at best difficult to see how ANYONE could libel or slander him.
The truth hurts.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 12:36 PM (+YMhA)
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Wait, I thought the saying was it's better for a hundred innocent men to go to jail?
Posted by: Sen Gillibrand at April 27, 2015 12:36 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: CNBC Market Report at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (FCsIb)
They are not desperate at all. The masks are off because they are in total control now. They are not leaving.
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: Jackie Chan at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (HSmrB)
So did Chisholm just put himself above the governor?
Can he now, armed with what he might call probably cause, launch a John Doe investigation on Walker and Walker cannot talk about it or call his attorney?
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Any investigation where the target is not allowed to defend themself or even speak about the investigation is by its very nature unconstitutional, and therefore illegal in and of itself.
Sorry, libs. You cannot suspend habeas corpus and the first and fifth amendments against your political foes.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (c0co6)
In a just world, yes. In this world, unlikely.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 27, 2015 12:38 PM (ZPrif)
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This is not the hill to die on...
Posted by: The GOPe offer Gov Walker some free advice... at April 27, 2015 12:38 PM (78TbK)
it wasnt tepid. its also isnt news to him. he has known this for years. go on line and you will see filings of the victims of this filing for relief from the prosecutor and Judge Kluka
he has known about this for years. its only new to us.
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:38 PM (zOTsN)
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Not to be contrarian, because I don't like 'em myself, but isn't that what grand juries do?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 27, 2015 12:39 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:39 PM (Bn6aD)
he's now charged with a felony. Hopefully he has good security.
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Being charged with a felony does not remove one's 2nd Amend rights. One has to be convicted of it.
Posted by: JohnMc at April 27, 2015 12:39 PM (ZVUS/)
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You say cannot, but so far it looks to me like the actual answer is can and will.
If no one will stop the Left they will give us their millennial vision...good and hard.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2015 12:39 PM (78TbK)
Between Milwaukee County and Madison, the liberal politicians and liberal judges are doing everything in their power to get the Dem's back in power.
He claims state law allows him to do this? Which party controls the state legislature?
Change the law.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:40 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at April 27, 2015 12:40 PM (k8xvx)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 12:37 PM (c0co6)"
It is so cute that you believe this.
Posted by: The Left at April 27, 2015 12:40 PM (KDbAT)
The Mayor praised the Nation of Islam for helping out during the riots. Here is a picture of them posing with Bloods, Crips, Anonymous and the professional traveling protesters from NYC.
Weasel Zippers
If we're gonna have a civil war, and it sure looks like that is where we are headed, might as well have it now
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 12:40 PM (rDqRv)
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Not to be contrarian, because I don't like 'em myself, but isn't that what grand juries do?
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Well you can still speak for yourself if there is a grand jury investigation under way - assuming you know about it.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (gmeXX)
that has happened now. Now you can repeal the law without looking like you are trying to shield your frineds from legitimate prosecutions
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 12:31 PM (KDbAT)
Somewhere, a female to male tranny will need a dick.
Posted by: RickZ at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (66HIl)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (2cS/G)
@136
I agree with that for administrative criminal violations because, as you've said, there are so many of them. For non-administrative criminal violations? No, too open to the parade of horribles.
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (k8xvx)
Not to be contrarian, because I don't like 'em myself, but isn't that what grand juries do?
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Some legal eagle can confirm, but the defense is in the room during testimony ,and is allowed to present
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (c0co6)
Give them (observers) a reason to end their silence...
As a friend of mine noted in the John Doe investigations, there were many people who knew what was going on, and they either agreed or were afraid of drawing fire themselves, so they kept silent. If there was a reward for telling, would they have still kept silent?
Also known as: who will watch the watchmen, if there's a lot of money in it?
Posted by: Sue at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (MMPRf)
In Texas being charged with a felony is enough to lose your CHL
"is not currently charged with the commission of a felony, Class A or Class B misdemeanor, or equivalent offense, or an offense under Sec. 42.01 of the penal Code (Disorderly Conduct) or equivalent offense,"
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (Bn6aD)
Somewhere, a female to male tranny will need a dick.
well they're shit out of luck if they get his
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 27, 2015 12:43 PM (xSCb6)
Juuuust a bit outside.
Posted by: Garrett at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (WzbCv)
off. They know they have less than two years in which to fully execute
their plans or they face a delay of at least four, and probably eight,
years before they began implementation again."
You're kidding right?
Posted by: John Boehner & Mitch McConnell at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (TV9BR)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 27, 2015 12:43 PM (xSCb6)
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**pounds on front door
Posted by: Ferguson, New York, and Baltimore at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (NaV4z)
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In a world where so many "laws" are in the form of executive administrative decrees - what amounts to due process is something that needs to be looked at. Instapundit is on it. But jury nullification should be part of the equation.
I can say this - if I was ever on a jury for an administrative decree - I'd be hard pressed not to nullify on principle alone.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (zOTsN)
well they're shit out of luck if they get his
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM
Yeah, but...the balls on that fcuking guy!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (h4vJk)
They are not in total control that is why we are talking about Governor Walker and not recalled and defeated ex-Govenor Walker. In fact, they appear to be taking some serious hits lately.
When the NYT and people like Eleanor Clift start saying that Hillary Clinton has a serious ethics problem things are not all sparkles and jazz hands in liberal land.
What we need to do is fight back using the same methods they use. Like that German student who is suing mattress girl for lying about him, like the frat that is suing Rolling Stone, like the pizza place that raised almost $1 million on a gofundme campaign, like the gentle giant and Trayvon who are sill room temp and the truth about the lies of their situation came out.
Beating the left isn't going to happen overnight. They've been at this for decades. But we can beat them if we keep fighting back.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: RickZ at April 27, 2015 12:41 PM (66HIl)
You rang?
Posted by: Chazzzzzz Bono at April 27, 2015 12:45 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: Kirk at April 27, 2015 12:45 PM (GBnWt)
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GJ's assess a bundle of facts and issue a bill or no bill based on those facts. GJ's don't issue gag orders and the person in question is quite able to spout off in the court of public opinion all they want.
To be counter to your assessment of GJ's, they have the power to delve where ever they wish. The courts try to down play that fact but SCOTUS has ruled several times that a GJ can bring a bill to other parties other than just the one the prosecutor wants.
Posted by: JohnMc at April 27, 2015 12:45 PM (ZVUS/)
That ball's putting on it's cowboy hat and getting on its horse and it's riding OUT OF HERE.
Posted by: Radigan at April 27, 2015 12:45 PM (MYCIw)
Also, in some states getting a domestic violence order of protection (or equivalent - it has many names) can require you to turn over your guns to the state.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2015 12:46 PM (mx5oN)
Grand juries don't try and convict. They also don't SWAT.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:46 PM (XG1tD)
I was off by around 30 years.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 27, 2015 12:46 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (87y4e)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 27, 2015 12:39 PM (vgIRn)
I was on a special grand jury in Queens. We actually heard from one defendant and eventually no-billed the prosecution's case.
Posted by: RickZ at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (66HIl)
Why hasn't Walker already repealed these fascist John Doe laws?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 27, 2015 12:38 PM (ZPrif)"
Go ahead. We'll just abuse some other laws. We can't be bargained with. We can't be reasoned with. We don't feel pity or remorse or fear. And we absolutely will not stop, ever, until freedom is dead.
Posted by: The Left at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (KDbAT)
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Hit deep and...I don't think it's playable.
Posted by: @JohnTant at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (eytER)
Posted by: WisRich at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (hdpay)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2015 12:47 PM (DXzRD)
The legislators have made everything illegal so everyone is guilty of something. The result is we are no longer a "nation of laws" but one where ruthless men can legally attack their enemies anytime they want for any reason at all and have them fined or imprisoned, with the power of the state backing them up. it is the worst of all possible worlds.
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:48 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:48 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Baraka Almighty at April 27, 2015 12:48 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: John Boehner Mitch McConnell at April 27, 2015 12:44 PM (TV9BR)
I'm trying to be positive about all this!
Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2015 12:48 PM (8hctH)
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:48 PM (J6suc)
Lawfare, it's what for breakfast, lunch & dinner
Posted by: MikeH at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (/2E+M)
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (lKyWE)
So will Chisholm.
Posted by: RickZ at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (66HIl)
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (+YMhA)
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I'll be honest - I do not want to fight bad laws with more bad laws.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: prescient11 at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2015 12:49 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:50 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 12:50 PM (H2Opj)
"he's a tall drink of water"
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 12:50 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: The Left
Or you.
I think we have a solution.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 12:50 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:50 PM (2cS/G)
One never goes full Uecker
Posted by: Harry "Lazarus" Carey at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (/2E+M)
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I should add - or playing in a band?
Is he doing this to contrast O'Malley's age with HRC?
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (gmeXX)
if you don't do that you can take his job, incarecrate him or extract cash
you cant punish him without the law
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (zOTsN)
You gotta drop at least one "Juuuust a bit outside".
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2015 12:51 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:42 PM (Bn6aD
No. The local news is absolutely silent. Only the conservative talk shows.
Posted by: WisRich at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (hdpay)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (IcJmI)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Radigan at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Dan at April 27, 2015 12:13 PM (COpZ4)
Yes it can. And you know what happens then? The MFM buries the story, or spins it into a call for more gun control.
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (J6suc)
George WALKER Bush and Scott are happy to be friends with Democrats and give them power. If elected Scott would probably let Chuck Schumer write an immigration law called No Immigrant Child Left Behind.
Scott Walker will take donors money and then pay advisors to tell him "Reagan and Tip O'Neal were drinking buddies so you should swallow Schumer's sperm" and conservatives will wonder why they lost the country.
Posted by: Twoslaps at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (vCAyx)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (qyobn)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (2cS/G)
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Best baseball movie ..... EVER.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (NaV4z)
When Shakespeare said that a "good start" would be to "kill all the lawyers"
literally translated that meant prosecutors. There were no private lawyers back in the day.
Ah, how history repeats. These fucking prosecutors must be reined in.
Posted by: prescient11 at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: WisRich at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (hdpay)
Afraid of being raided, most likely
Posted by: MikeH at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (/2E+M)
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2015 12:54 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 12:54 PM (IcJmI)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 12:55 PM (IcJmI)
Posted by: WisRich at April 27, 2015 12:52 PM (hdpay)
Probably good. If they were all over it they would believe it to be a way to take down Walker.... Silence means they know it's crap...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 12:55 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Brendan at April 27, 2015 12:56 PM (4YCgw)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime.
We'll fix your wagons, buddy.
Yup.
Also, isn't what he did within the purview of that statute? Just. Sayin'.
I still cannot comprehend how John Doe law like that can possibly be constitutional.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 12:56 PM (mf5HN)
Sentences can be shortened by withholding food.
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:56 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 12:56 PM (J6suc)
or air
Posted by: MikeH at April 27, 2015 12:57 PM (/2E+M)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 27, 2015 12:54 PM (IcJmI)
I'll have you know Matt Drudge is a straight as I am, sir.
Posted by: Kevin Spacey at April 27, 2015 12:58 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: LincolnTf
________________
Will it be available on milb.com?
No, Horde, not milf.com . . .
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 12:59 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:00 PM (zOTsN)
I'll have you know Matt Drudge is a straight as I am, sir.
Posted by: Kevin Spacey at April 27, 2015 12:58 PM (vgIRn)
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Drudge hangs out with Coulter at Basketball games, she would be the perfect beard.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 27, 2015 01:00 PM (A98Xu)
(For the benefit of those on the port side of the political aisle, desperation like this is not attractive - it too closely resembles fear.)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ice-Cold Contempt and Fiery Furies Together at the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2015 01:00 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:01 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: just saying at April 27, 2015 01:01 PM (wkuqO)
So what State is O'Malley Governor of?
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Trick question.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 12:53 PM (gmeXX)"
He used to be governor of Maryland and before that he was Mayor of Baltimore.
In the TV show "The Wire" the Tommy Carcetti character is based on O'Malley. I do not think that it is any coincidence that the same actor who played Tommy Carcetti also plays Petyr "Littlefinger" Beylish in "Game of Thrones". They are both the same character.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:01 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Scott Walker, looking for his nads at April 27, 2015 01:01 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (2cS/G)
i wonder if they have any limits at all .
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Scott Walker, looking for his nads
Always check your wife's purse.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (XG1tD)
Chisolm knew what he was doing was wrong, which is why he slapped his SWAT victims with gag orders. Make it all public, expose him and all his assorted Lefty connections (because he's likely associated w/some Soros AG group, etc.)
* * *
This reminds me - what ever happened to that case against Rick Perry for removing that DUI lady ("Call Greg!!") from the ethics commission?
Bet they're itching to get a Walker mugshot.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)
As to defamatory remarks, I strongly suspect the Iowa criminal code, like Wisconsin's, has provisions for intentionally making false statements intended to harm the reputation of others
I so don't get this. Why is a Wisconsin DA threatening a Wisconsin Governor with speculation about an Iowa law when Wisconsin has one?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (JtwS4)
That meant something much different in my day.
*shivers*
Posted by: Mr. Belvedere at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (87y4e)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (zOTsN)
i wonder if they have any limits at all.
Col. Colt says "Yes".
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:04 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)
I think someone mentioned last night that it has gone to appeal. Overseen by a judge appointed by Perry.
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 01:04 PM (zt+N6)
Iowahawk
the only reason Hillary is running is to avoid indictment
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (zOTsN)
"There is much truth in jest" - things some old dude said
Posted by: MikeH at April 27, 2015 01:04 PM (/2E+M)
O'Malley is Irish and drunkenly forgets his shirt often.
BTW the National Enquirer is running a story that Barry is an alcoholic and his wife hits him. Supposedly from a Hillary autobiography where she comes out.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 27, 2015 01:04 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (nqBYe)
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The US Constitution is now moot, so.....no.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 01:04 PM (/HX7u)
thats where the "crime" of "sayng mean things" occurred
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (2TN4k)
"Gray-ug," I believe.
In the Restored Constitutional Republic of Greater Texas, we'll have to learn to add syllables to things.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: What, me worry? at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (vDEpI)
Posted by: LincolnTf
__________________
Can you give us all a link to the site?
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2015 01:03 PM (JtwS4)
Because he's an asshat?
Also wasn't Walker in Iowa when he said it and thus it's hey get this a RICO attempt to get an Iowa prosecutor to go after Walker.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Obama the Great at April 27, 2015 01:05 PM (0eidE)
This is on the top of my list for absolutely chilling actions of the left.
i wonder if they have any limits at all .
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (nqBYe)"
They share a political philosophy and ethical system with Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot.
What do you think?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:06 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 27, 2015 01:06 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
____________________
Venue of the "crime".
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:07 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:02 PM (nqBYe)
Just imagine how much more efficient and carbon-neutral Auschwitz will be now.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 27, 2015 01:07 PM (zF6Iw)
Iowahawk
the only reason Hillary is running is to avoid indictment
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Well I proposed the theory that she is running so that when she bows out of the race, she will receive a de facto pardon.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 01:07 PM (gmeXX)
I need to scrub my sink. I grab a bottle of cleaner and look at the label for directions.
DIRECTIONS: It is a violation of Federal law ...
I can't even clean my fucking sink without the Federal government threatening to throw me in jail.
Posted by: despair at April 27, 2015 01:08 PM (J6suc)
For what Chisholm did, ten years is not enough. He ordered armed home invasions of political enemies. Life in prison would be appropriate. If anyone had died Chisholm would deserve the death penalty.
Posted by: pst314 at April 27, 2015 01:08 PM (T4dRn)
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:08 PM (2cS/G)
Klingon women *often* strike their spouses.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:09 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:09 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:09 PM (Bn6aD)
For what Chisholm did, ten years is not enough. He ordered armed home invasions of political enemies.
innocent people could have been killed
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 01:09 PM (lKyWE)
Chisholm needs to be publicly shamed, bankrupted, and tossed into a gutter to beg for kitchen scraps the rest of his life. And his begging should be IGNORED.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (NHtMs)
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Its because they do not like her.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Hillary is a scold
Posted by: MikeH at April 27, 2015 01:11 PM (/2E+M)
Union! money? pensions?
did any one of them question what was being done and where this shit leads to?
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:11 PM (nqBYe)
What do you think?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:06 PM (KDbAT)
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At the end of the day ..... the left will always resort to violence and coercion.
Because the principals of the left go against human nature. The only way to make people behave againt their nature is to force them.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:11 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at April 27, 2015 01:11 PM (y4qCL)
They, of course, believe it's all worth it, because they have a foundational belief that "those who are not us" are assholes, and since the ends justify the means, there are no limits to what you can do to a Kulak, err, "unperson."
This history crap is too tediously predictable.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 27, 2015 01:12 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2015 01:12 PM (c0co6)
we're screwed if we don't stop this .
Walker better have balls of brass knuckles
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:13 PM (nqBYe)
Because the principals of the left go against human nature. The only way to make people behave againt their nature is to force them.
Liberal policies. So good they're mandatory!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:13 PM (XG1tD)
293 Hillary! must be really pissed that the "media" is sort of going after Her. Once again obama gets the better of Her ----- Its because they do not like her.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
The only reason they give her any support is because of Bill. Were it not for him they would have already ditched her for some other Marxist.
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 01:13 PM (zt+N6)
Despots need to be put in front of a bullet riddled wall and cut in half with a belt fed.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 27, 2015 01:13 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (mf5HN)
Nyet Nyet, is manly! But unimpressive; call me when he takes one shirtless wrestling a bear.
Posted by: Putin at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (yRwC8)
Hillary! must be really pissed that the "media" is sort of going after
Her. Once again obama gets the better of Her because none of the
atrocities He's done never get covered....
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:09 PM (Bn6aD)"
There is a connection. The media are Obama's catamites. Obama wants Hillary under the bus and the media are happy to comply.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: "Gay Marriage" court decisions at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (3F6F8)
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Yeah, it's like big business. It's all about who you know, not what you know.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (UlJ3l)
If I didn't know better, I'd say he knew a judgment in his favor would be forthcoming.
Sorry if this has already been said.
Posted by: Tantumblogo at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (K/p7v)
as i ask with everything the left lawfare does.
Does anyone have standing?
the people with their doors busted in?
Walker?
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:15 PM (nqBYe)
its not just the prosecuter the judge that signed of on the warrants was rubber stamping hundreds of them at a time with no real judicial review
Posted by: kj at April 27, 2015 01:15 PM (lKyWE)
Remember when some sheriffs and prosecutors in MO threatened to go after people opposed to Oblahblah during the 2008 campaign. This crap is insidious on the left.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2015 01:15 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:11 PM (NaV4z)
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Fear and death. They won't stop until someone stops them.
But, I'm afraid stopping them isn't in the cards for this nation anymore. People are way too comfortable to get up and do anything about it. No one wants to make any sacrifices for freedom.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (/HX7u)
criminal prosecution of the state actors, it will be stopped by star
chambers. This is not tolerable behavior, and it will be stopped one way
or another.
Yep. He didn't have to do these raids in the middle of the night, causing a big stir in the neighborhood and rousing the targets out of bed and out of the house, etc. This was intentionally thuggish, jarring, and humiliating, in addition to just plain overreach.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (2TN4k)
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:14 PM (UlJ3l)
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Which reminds me....
Why the fcuk is Rex Hudler allowed to say *anything* on the air.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (NaV4z)
its not just the prosecuter the judge that signed of on the warrants was rubber stamping hundreds of them at a time with no real judicial review
Yes they are in this together....That being said I worry that they will prevail...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (Bn6aD)
Wisconsin case law seems to be pretty hands off. Doesnt like the court system to second guess a prosecutorial decision too much. Says the remedy is in the ballot box. You dont like how hes doing his job, vote him out
still dont see how that gets around the constitutional violations
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 12:02 PM
How many does it take?
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Take the Hillary! approach. Make it up in volume.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 01:17 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2015 12:05 PM (MYCIw)
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LOL. Beat me to it!
Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2015 01:17 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:17 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 01:16 PM (/HX7u)
Is that true? Or, perhaps no one wants a wasted sacrifice where nothing really changes. It will take a general over all burning and people remembering.
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:18 PM (wkuqO)
Weaponizing government offices to persecute opposing political views is an absolutely intolerable act.
Posted by: ConstantineXI at April 27, 2015 01:19 PM (Eov0o)
Posted by: fixerupper
_____________________
^^^This !
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:19 PM (UlJ3l)
Actually, I'd say this bullshit reeks of desperation. He's fucked, and he knows it.
Posted by: Lying Shitweasel Renee Ellmers at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (sxq57)
as i ask with everything the left lawfare does.
Does anyone have standing?
the people with their doors busted in?
Walker?
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:15 PM (nqBYe)
There are both Federal and state actions pending at the moment. In something that would be ironic if it didn't make me want to punch a manatee, the state Supreme Court arguments were held last week but the hearings were kept secret to preclude the names of those being targeted from being leaked.
The Federal action is very interesting because it gets into a problem with the Anti-Injunction Act (very short and dirty version: a Federal court won't issue an injunction in a state matter since the state courts should be the ones doing that). What do you do when what you are enjoining is an overreach by the state court system itself?
Here's something else this case and many others are pointing out. Judges are rubber stamping warrants. Mind you, that's been a problem for decades and decades. But it's worse now. The prosecutor found a judge to blow through issuing all of the warrants in one day. This points out the ridiculousness of what are to be safe guards in the statutes.
Oh this can't happen unless a judge signs off! People hear that and think there's some kind of hearing, not someone emailing pdfs to a judge with "Okay just sign at the bottom".
The solution? Strip immunity. That will help a great deal.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (Bn6aD)
I can't begin to describe how virulently ANGRY the John Doe
investigations make me. It's almost scary how furious I feel any time
they're brought up.
Chisholm needs to be publicly shamed,
bankrupted, and tossed into a gutter to beg for kitchen scraps the rest
of his life. And his begging should be IGNORED.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (4df7R)"
Basically if John Chisolm emerges from this without going to prison, it will be an admission that America is over. It is that important.
Sadly, I think that Chisholm will not only emerge unscathed but as a rising star in the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (2cS/G)
Oh, and Jindal is white and Ted Cruz is ineligible.
Anything else I miss?
Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2015 01:21 PM (9BRsg)
John Doe investigations make me. It's almost scary how furious I feel
any time they're brought up.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at April 27, 2015 01:10 PM (4df7R)
Triggering! The word you are looking for is triggering. Rightfully so though; the John Doe investigation news trickling out is positively chilling. Frightening reads.
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 01:21 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Iblis at April 27, 2015 01:22 PM (9221z)
Or not.
Posted by: toby928(C) also asserts at April 27, 2015 01:22 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: BuckIV at April 27, 2015 01:22 PM (CLfqv)
fgs, soon there will be boats full of americans crossing rivers and oceans to escape becoming political prisoners.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:17 PM (nqBYe)
Probably in our lifetimes too. Sadly.Like I said in my comment (and I also posted about this on my blog) the death penalty needs to be on the table for corruption and misuse of office. John Chisholm, Rosemary Lehmberg, Lois Lerner, I'm looking at you.Send them to Jack Ketch. String them up.
Posted by: ConstantineXI at April 27, 2015 01:22 PM (Eov0o)
Weaponizing government offices to persecute opposing political views is an absolutely intolerable act.
Posted by: ConstantineXI at April 27, 2015 01:19 PM (Eov0o)
Shut your whore mouth
Posted by: Lois Lerner at April 27, 2015 01:23 PM (HSmrB)
Dilute the power. Spread it out locally. The government thinks that any citizen that stands tall is a nail to be hammered back down, so turn it around.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 27, 2015 01:24 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: Obama the Great at April 27, 2015 01:24 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:24 PM (Bn6aD)
would any politician -judge- etc ever want that?
i'm also thinking inside traders and marha stweart thing a while back.
i would think keeping immunity would ratchet up their side and not have many advocates with power.
as they also benefit .
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:24 PM (nqBYe)
triggering. Rightfully so though; the John Doe investigation news
trickling out is positively chilling. Frightening reads.
Posted by: LizLem at April 27, 2015 01:21 PM (yRwC
I've been a skeptic of the impartiality of courts and prosecutors ever since Mike Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse case.Prosecutors, judges, and courts have a frightening amount of power to abuse.
Posted by: ConstantineXI at April 27, 2015 01:24 PM (Eov0o)
just shudder.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: LincolnTf
___________
I also remember a Cubs-Brewers broadcast in which the play was called (approximate wording): "Flyball. Corey Hart flips down his sunglasses in right. And that's the inning."
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:26 PM (UlJ3l)
I miss Fred.
Glad we've still got Denny.
And how about those Royals.
Having fun, winning and not backing down.
Posted by: teej at April 27, 2015 01:26 PM (mJRr3)
that judicial watch revealed he pressured the IRS to target tea party groups
Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:20 PM (nqBYe)
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I knew the evening of Nov 6, 2012 that darkness would be settling on this country. It's why I made the remarks that I made at the time. It was an easy prophesy to make. This nation is going to see things it's never seen before in it's history. We're only seeing the beginning.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 01:27 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 01:28 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 27, 2015 01:28 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 01:28 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: Allen wannabe at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (0eidE)
We do know by history what it might look like.
so we must Learn tactics and fight back!
legally. as dirty.
more harshly.
we Must stop this .
for the children!
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (nqBYe)
I wonder why no one ever posts stuff like that?
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at April 27, 2015 01:30 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 01:30 PM (O9qtX)
That's the paper.
The reality--as we are finding here--is the people who enforce the law.
There is no law to stop a man on a crusade. He thinks he is moral in every act and deed.
Would you obey the laws against murder to stop a serial child rapist?
That's what the left thinks of conservatives.
You don't pervert the law and justice in such a manner as was done here to catch a pick-pocketer or shoplifter: No, this perversion and corruption was done because they all believe with every fiber of their being that they are the vanguard fighting pure evil.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 27, 2015 01:30 PM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:30 PM (2cS/G)
Having fun, winning and not backing down.
Posted by: teej at April 27, 2015 01:26 PM (mJRr3)
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Did you see that foul ball catch Gordo made yesterday???
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:31 PM (NaV4z)
They know they are The pure evil.
perhaps their followers don't
but this is about Power /Rule and money.
i know it is.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:32 PM (nqBYe)
I miss Fred.
Glad we've still got Denny.
And how about those Royals.
Having fun, winning and not backing down.
Posted by: teej
____________________
In the pennant-clinching game last year, I intentionally didn't watch the TV, preferring to hear Denny Matthews. Last play (again, approximate): "Grounder to third, Moustakas has it, throws to first, and that's the game. (Long pause.) The Kansas City Royals are going to the World Series." No raised voice, no drama. It could have been the third inning of a game in May.
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:32 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 27, 2015 01:32 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:33 PM (NaV4z)
There is no set of rules that will simultaneously allow for self-rule by a majority of Socialist-Leaning Citizens AND provide protections for any other Political Minority.
That's where we're at. The majority of Americans desire Socialism. They may not like it once they get it ... but they're damn sure going to give it a go.
And you and I ARE going to ride along ... unless some event permits us to part ways.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 27, 2015 01:33 PM (UZZHo)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 01:34 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at April 27, 2015 01:35 PM (fLKzW)
We need a german word for 'room to riot in detroit'
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (wkuqO)"
When the Nazis invaded Poland and Russia they said it was because they needed lebensraum or space for the German people to live in.
I guess space for people to riot in would be Aufruhrsraum.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:35 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:35 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:35 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:36 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: astonerii at April 27, 2015 01:36 PM (mTw6c)
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2015 01:37 PM (0eidE)
I love ace's idea of an amicable divorce, but the left will not allow us to do that. Things will get very ugly very soon. Buckle up.
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Yeah.... the left. It would be like trying to divorce Courtney Love.
Will not go well.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2015 01:37 PM (NaV4z)
Justice works differently in Nevada than in Wisconsin.
Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 27, 2015 01:28 PM (FCsIb)
Yeah, and you better keep you fcuking mouth shut.
Posted by: Guido at April 27, 2015 01:37 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 27, 2015 01:33 PM (UZZHo)
Part of the plan. Obama is parallel processing. Destroying our position in the world, and bankrupting 'Merica so it will stay that way. Lots of little things including destroying the family on the way. The list is long and he has the federal institutions doing it for him too.
Pure evil and people are not good.
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:37 PM (wkuqO)
And the diving catch coming in.
And the throw to double off the runner at second after catching a fly going towards the line.
Ho hummers for Alex.
Kinda reminds me of my younger years.
Posted by: teej at April 27, 2015 01:37 PM (mJRr3)
they want the pure pleasure of stealing all your future for the good of their followers.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:39 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2015 01:40 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Occupy Baltimore at April 27, 2015 01:40 PM (FcR7P)
************
ALL YOUR FUTURE IS BELONG TO US.
Posted by: American Women at April 27, 2015 01:40 PM (vgIRn)
Farfrumlootin.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:35 PM
*golf clap*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2015 01:41 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 27, 2015 01:41 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: MikeH
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The secret source of Humor itself is not joy but sorrow. - Mark Twain
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2015 01:41 PM (F2IAQ)
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I'll say one thing for the Crips and the Bloods, they dress cooler than the Nation of Islam.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 27, 2015 01:41 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Bud Norton at April 27, 2015 01:41 PM (6cOMd)
as noted above, his legal burden of proof is huge, in not insurmountable, plus all his communications, official AND private, would be open to discovery by the defense team.
yeah, go ahead and open that can of worms, i beg you.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2015 01:42 PM (jMMCO)
He was a true great baseball man.
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at April 27, 2015 01:43 PM (02oLK)
You think we live in a free country?
I need to scrub my sink. I grab a bottle of cleaner and look at the label for directions.
DIRECTIONS: It is a violation of Federal law ...
I can't even clean my fucking sink without the Federal government threatening to throw me in jail.
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The bed you sleep on has a label required by federal law.
The radio alarm you wake to has labels required by federal law.
The water you shower in must meet standards set by federal law.
The paste you brush your teeth with has labels required by federal law.
The food you eat for breakfast has labels required by federal law (to say nothing of the federal laws it had to comply with along the way to your table).
The car you drive . . .
The chair you sit on at work . . .
Etc., etc., etc.
You can not--in America today--go through a single day without something being required there by federal law.
And you want to tell me this government isn't too big? Too intrusive?
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 27, 2015 01:43 PM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:44 PM (wkuqO)
And you and I ARE going to ride along ... unless some event permits us to part
Texas Seceede!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:39 PM (XG1tD)"
Given the electoral votes of California, New York and Illinois, Democrats would have a permanent lock on the Presidency if Texas were to secede. Maybe that would convince them.
The part where it gets sticky is when other states want to leave them and join Texas. The key is to make acquisition of nuclear weapons and delivery systems the first priority for Texas after independence.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:45 PM (KDbAT)
You can. But it requires a lot of work.
Camping on private land.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:46 PM (XG1tD)
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This ought to make you feel better.
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Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 01:48 PM (iVjJr)
Accomplish the same thing by flooding it with illegals with a path to citizenship. They will follow the 80-20 rule. 80% will vote for dems. There are a lot of Texans now so it will take a lot of illegals but you ain't seen nothing yet. Don't think the Libs haven't noticed.
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:48 PM (wkuqO)
I'm sure the US already has some nukes parked in TX, no?
We seem to have them scattered all over the country.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 01:48 PM (AkOaV)
Camping on private land.
Posted by: rickb223
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Just don't let that private land have a playa lake or a buffalo wallow on it.
Posted by: Furious George at April 27, 2015 01:48 PM (UlJ3l)
If nothing else, Indians fans will secretly thrill to seeing somebody finally smack Michael Bourn around.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2015 01:48 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 27, 2015 01:45 PM (KDbAT)
I take cash.
Posted by: Vlad teh Putin at April 27, 2015 01:49 PM (iVjJr)
Posted by: buzzion at April 27, 2015 12:09 PM (zt+N6)
Yup, D-I-V-O-R-C-E.
Posted by: Tattoo Ewe For the Year of the Sheep at April 27, 2015 01:49 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: Tattoo Ewe For the Year of the Sheep at April 27, 2015 01:50 PM (nCKKS)
Posted by: LincolnTf at April 27, 2015 01:51 PM (2cS/G)
Camping on private land.
Coleman stove, sleeping bag, can of water, feds still have their grimmy paws there too.
Posted by: Infidel at April 27, 2015 01:52 PM (qu2uc)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at April 27, 2015 01:52 PM (YCG8H)
A buddy of mine from GA used to suggest making the Mason Dixon line a fence.
Unfortunately for me I guess, I'd be on the wrong side of said fence.
BUT, I bet that is one "border fence" the liberals could get on board with. As long as they got to put towers on their side of the DMZ.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 27, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)
The TX House and Senate could have reigned in that lush in Travis County two years ago; they chose not too because "it was too political."
F*ck that. Of *course* it's political. And, like with any other kind of combat, it does take two to fight - because when only one side does it it's called "a beating."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 01:53 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 27, 2015 01:53 PM (HSmrB)
Walker needs to go Ol Hickory on Chisholm.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2015 01:53 PM (nXqvU)
Texas straight north to Canada. Grabs Minot, ND AND allows a pipeline from Canada to Stinkydena.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:54 PM (XG1tD)
Camping on private land.
Posted by: Infidel at April 27, 2015 01:52 PM (qu2uc)
Where ya gonna poop? Because watersheds.
Unlicensed nitrate release and all.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 27, 2015 01:54 PM (iVjJr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2015 01:53 PM (nXqvU)
...
Shoot him from behind a hay-bale with a cannonball fired from an alligator?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 27, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f)
Also has a backhoe.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:54 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 01:55 PM (rDqRv)
Open fire. Texas summer. Boil water.
Like I said, can be done. Requires a lot of work.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:56 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at April 27, 2015 01:56 PM (O9qtX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 01:55 PM (rDqRv)
If you are winning elections it is already done.
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:56 PM (wkuqO)
Posted by: hot flame at April 27, 2015 01:29 PM (wkuqO)
I believe Lebensraum was used at one point by a previous fascist regime.
Posted by: Iblis at April 27, 2015 01:56 PM (9221z)
I'll be nood in the van....
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 27, 2015 01:57 PM (HSmrB)
Unlicensed nitrate release and
Same place the 50 cow, numerous coyotes and hogs do.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2015 01:57 PM (XG1tD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2015 01:55 PM (rDqRv)
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Unfortunately, the election process has been corrupted also. I don't think voting is going to solve the leftist/progressive problem.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2015 01:58 PM (/HX7u)
The morning of the OKC bombing I saw an employee, my token leftist, bent over the radio. He told me about the bombing and how it *had* to be the work of Middle East terrorists. I let him jabber on for a while then said 'OKC, middle of the country, not an international city, federal office building on the anniversary of the Waco fire? Come on. You guys are clueless.'
Now Tim McVeigh can burn in hell, but I knew plenty about Waco and Ruby Ridge and wasn't the least bit shocked. I'm getting that same feeling, but this time this administration, and all its sycophants, actually want something of the OKC horror to happen again. They played that card for political gain like a priceless Stradivarius. I hope it doesn't happen again.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 27, 2015 02:00 PM (xQX/f)
that judicial watch revealed he pressured the IRS to target tea party groups Posted by: ThunderB, Chrystal Methanny Rocket Launcher at April 27, 2015 01:27 PM (zOTsN)
Must destroy hobbitses!!
Posted by: McCain, seat at lefty table = the precious at April 27, 2015 02:00 PM (yRwC8)
NO BLOOD TRANSFUSION THIS WEEK! (asterisk)
My numbers are still crap, but a mildly low Hgb, (5.
, is preferable to further transfusions which carry the risk of life threatening infections, diseases, and reactions. Platelets up. White blood cells are starting to move in an upward direction, (0.6). (asterisk): I'll have my blood checked again this Friday.....and if my Hgb is not much worse than it is now, I'll skate all the way through the weekend before requiring more blood.
Woot
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 27, 2015 02:02 PM (0IhFx)
like 51 million illegals, a DNC 242 electoral vote starting point.
there's no reason to stop the double standard now. And McConnell and Boehner agree.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 27, 2015 02:04 PM (qyobn)
Question: Who's on first?
Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 02:05 PM (sWgE+)
legalinsurrection.com/2015/04/ will-supreme-court-take-blockbuster- john-doe-campaign-case/
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2015 02:06 PM (jMMCO)
Posted by: wrg500 at April 27, 2015 02:10 PM (sWgE+)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime."
Might I suggest Step A first (before Step One). As you mentioned in your tweets this weekend - the first thing to do is get on with the divorce/division of the USA... THEN start making some new laws.
Posted by: Russtovich at April 27, 2015 02:11 PM (8zhoe)
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at April 27, 2015 03:11 PM (MV2jA)
IOW, once the active hunting starts, it will be a *very* short season...
;-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2015 03:40 PM (7vjeC)
Major nuke supplies are at Minot (5th BW, B-52s), Kings Bay, Georgia and Bremerton, WA (Trident submarines), the Navy nuke depots at Seal Beach, CA and Yorktown, VA, and the Minuteman ICBM fields which have drawn down to around Malmstrom, Minot, and Warren in Montana, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at April 27, 2015 03:56 PM (8v5Ri)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime.
Step three: ??????
Step four: Profit!!!
Posted by: Bill H at April 27, 2015 04:08 PM (XBe5A)
I really want to buy a good rifle from an individual seller. I'm concerned that the ones I've bought from dealers will be confiscated.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 27, 2015 04:42 PM (QRz0C)
They have not been an effective stop-gap in the past, there is no reason to believe they will work now. This solution, though appealing in its nonviolent approach, is a temporary measure at best.
The obvious solution? Shoot him.
He has violated basic constitutional law, while under the title of one who upholds that selfsame law. The man is a traitor. In an unusual sense, to be sure, but still he is. Further, the severity of the punishment against him would probably make others...consider their actions a bit more carefully. Or escalate tensions to the breaking point.
I am fine either way.
Posted by: Cthulhu at April 27, 2015 07:06 PM (P4OMO)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime.
This.
Posted by: sulla at April 27, 2015 10:51 PM (0GucZ)
Step two: Pass another law permitting a prosecutor to be prosecuted and jailed for ten years for acting with malice in pursuing an alleged political crime.
This.
Posted by: sulla at April 27, 2015 10:51 PM (0GucZ)
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